[00:11] Riddell: According to the sysadmins, the Drupal site should be up and running before release. [00:14] goodness [01:21] evening [02:43] Riddell: ping === youngling is now known as pradeeptob [03:10] http://pastebin.ca/986898 <-- what am I doing wrong here? I have search the internet for asnwers but haven't found any. Any pointers? [03:22] jjesse: you can use putty to manage your ssh keys...I use it for ssh/svn/bzr and such [03:31] nixternal: http://pastebin.ca/986898 <-- any pointers to this issue? [03:31] thanks in advance [03:32] pastebin your control file [03:32] sec, its pretty much the ubuntu one. [03:32] k [03:33] nixternal: http://pastebin.ca/986953 [03:39] pradeeptob: what version number do you have in the changelog? [03:40] pkb-enterprise-3.5.9 [03:40] hrmm [03:41] i am guessing thats the problem? [03:41] yup [03:41] the source folder, is kdepim-pkb-enterprise-3.5.9 [03:41] that pkb-enterprise is the problem [03:42] kdepim-pkb-enterprise (3.5.9-x) hardy; urgency=low [03:42] should be something like that [03:42] in changelog [03:42] nixternal: so am I supposed to change the names in the control file [03:42] oh [03:42] ooh, ya you would actually [03:42] just the kdepim part though and all of the kdepim references [03:44] nixternal: so either the changelog or control? [03:44] ya [03:44] but that requires quite a bit [03:45] kdepim (4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1) gutsy-backports; urgency=low <-- from the ubuntu sources [03:49] that is the style you want to follow honestly [03:49] creates much less of a head ache for you [03:49] ah ha [03:49] hehe [03:49] jcastro: you cookin' ribs thursday? [03:50] knowing you Michigan militia types, we will be eating bbq skunk and drinking duck pee [03:53] nixternal: I can get ribs if you want [03:53] nixternal: dpkg-source: error: source package has two conflicting values - kdepim and kdepim-pkb-enterprise , looks like I have to change the control file anyway? is that os? [03:53] jcastro: nah, just messin' with ya :) [03:53] looks like Gabriel, Jeff, and I will stock up on Goose Island before leaving Chicago though [03:54] changelog atm says kdepim-pkb-enterprise (4:3.5.9) gutsy; urgency=low [03:54] my master plan is to steal^Wborrow Jono's hotel key and sleep there :p [03:54] pradeeptob: then you need to change anything that says 'kdepim' in the control file to 'kdepim-pkg-enterprise' [03:55] s/pkg/pkb [03:55] nixternal: even in cases like libkdepim ? [03:55] kdepim-gdb/-dev [03:55] you should be fine with libkdepim /me thinks [03:56] -gdb and -dev should be changed as well === nivek_ is now known as nivek [05:35] evening :) [05:53] hiya vorian [07:18] stdin: im going to go ahead and fix that [07:54] anyone in here [08:06] <\sh> apachelogger, ok...the icon problem from yesterday, it's only a problem with the menu icons inside the k-menu..not the application icons [08:07] apachelogger: fixed a minor triviality this morning but its ready [08:48] <\sh> hmm...does anybody has problems with kopete and jabber? [08:51] anyone alive in here im j/w if anyone else is having this issue with audio streams in amarok when streaming the streams cut out and only way to fix it is rebuffer the stream manually [09:03] <\sh> apachelogger, bug #188836 [09:03] Launchpad bug 188836 in kdenetwork-kde4 "kopete-kde4 crashes when connecting to some Jabber servers" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188836 === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [10:01] anyone having any issues with amarok and streaming audio [10:05] Tonio_: morning i have a question for ya [10:13] eagles0513875: yes ? I was about to upload your debdiffs if not done yet [10:14] Tonio_: hold off on the kde one not sure what was decided bout that amarok one i did yesterday [10:15] eagles0513875: hold off the kde one ? why so ? [10:15] Tonio_: not sure what was decided on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/217441 [10:15] Launchpad bug 217441 in amarok "Recommends/Depends on kdebase-kio-plugins for iPod autodetection " [Wishlist,In progress] [10:15] Tonio_: has some mistakes in the runtime one and stdin recommends apachelogger review before uploading [10:16] and hes now saying something about a patch [10:16] Tonio_: unless u want to review and if they are ok u can upload [10:18] !u > eagles0513875 [10:18] jussi01: thanks again [10:18] :) [10:19] eagles0513875: I'll ping apachelogger then :) [10:19] Tonio_: ok [10:19] eagles0513875: he knows about kde4 packaging better than I do, since I refuse to work on kde4 atm :) [10:19] Tonio_: whats ur take on the amarok fix i did as well as matti [10:22] * eagles0513875 needs to find a bug to fix [10:25] Tonio_: what knowledge does one need to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/217580 [10:25] Launchpad bug 217580 in firefox-3.0 "Slow performance with Gmail" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:25] eagles0513875: that's not my part :) not kde app :) [10:25] ok [10:26] Tonio_: lol how about this 1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lame/+bug/127580 [10:26] Launchpad bug 127580 in lame "lame crashed with SIGSEGV in decodeMP3()" [Medium,New] [10:27] same thing ;) [10:27] Tonio_: what exactly do u deal with bug wise lol [10:27] *you [10:27] also, one crash reported doesn't mean that's reproductible [10:27] ok [10:27] eagles0513875: everything that concerns kde :) [10:28] Tonio_: except kde4 [10:28] eagles0513875: and more than that I'm not that involved at bugfixing, I do quite a bit do I prefer to work at other points :) [10:28] eagles0513875: for the moment yes, no kde4, in one month that'll be different :) [10:28] Tonio_: if i wanted to tweak power settings where do i do that cuz my teacher of my linux cert course after 4 months managed to get it setup to where he gets 3 hrs out of his laptop [10:29] battery [10:29] would that be something that would get added to teh repos rather quickly [10:31] eagles0513875: that's quite complex :) it's more kernel/hal side [10:31] nothing to do with the laptop part, and that's specific to each laptop [10:32] eagles0513875: it is possible that we don't have the nice patch for your laptop, dunno.... [10:32] ok im going to have to take a stab at it cuz i owuld really like better life outa this damn monster [10:32] damn athlon 64 3200 [10:32] :) [10:32] you could play with fan settings too [10:33] battery life depends on lots of different settings [10:33] why put a desktop proc in a laptop i wanna know but then again its a compaq and they r known for peculiarities [10:33] ok [10:33] and also, fan settings are specific to each laptop model/driver [10:34] on my laptop (macbook pro) I just use defaults which are fine for my usage [10:34] lucky [10:34] i whould have gotten a mac instead of hp tablet [10:34] I have about 2H battery life when osx is about 2h30.... that's quite acceptable [10:34] on my new one bout 2 hrs when on powersave mode [10:34] i wish i could get kubuntu on it though [10:53] ill bbl goign to patch world of warcraft and go have lunch and take a nap im tired again [10:55] <\sh> does anyone know if we compiled kopete for kde4 with jingle support? === _Czessi is now known as Czessi === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [11:30] hmm.. what do i do about this? kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: Conflicts: kdebase-bin-kde3 but 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 is to be installed. [11:36] hmm, the new kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 needs to be let through [12:35] \sh: the guy from open expo just replied saying he put the right descriptions online and that the confirmation for the talk will have to wait another few days [12:35] * Nightrose checks the page [12:41] seems like the Hardy updates of today are havinf conflics somehow; it wants to remove these packages: [12:41] kdebase-dev kmplayer-konq-plugins konq-plugins konq-toutf8 konqueror konqueror-nsplugins kubuntu-desktop [12:41] mozilla-mplayer [12:43] <\sh> Nightrose, what about the booth description? it's missing completly somehow ;) [12:45] \sh: meh yea just seen it... [12:45] \sh: anyway - I need to be at my next lecture in a few minutes - back in 2 hours or so [12:49] <\sh> Nightrose, /me is writing documentation ;) [12:56] <\sh> Riddell, where are the icons defined for the menu entries in kde4? (not the application icons, but the icons which are normally infront of the menu entries) === smarter_ is now known as smarter [13:21] \sh: /usr/lib/kde4/share/desktop-directories/ ? [13:21] or maybe /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/desktop-directories/ [13:34] Riddell: I think we are now done with displayconfig and i think all of the patches we're carrying are suitable for upstream. It'd be good if you'd commit them when you have time. [13:34] done with guidance [13:37] \sh: why did you raise the importance of that Kopete bug to critical? [13:38] <\sh> apachelogger, I think it's an RC [13:39] !rc [13:39] Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents [13:39] <\sh> apachelogger, two things: 1. during adding of an account, after login to the server, kopete crashes..sadly I can't get any log, because no dr. konqui comes up [13:40] well [13:40] it happens for _some_ servers [13:40] that is high importance, if that at all [13:40] <\sh> apachelogger, 2. after restarting kopete, and going online .. kopete tells me that it received an not known xml package...and dies after that, again without dr. konqui [13:41] <\sh> apachelogger, as I'm the admin of an ejabberd server, which is old enough to be my grandfather, I think this it's release critical to ship with it...while kopete on kde3 doesn't behave like that [13:41] * Hobbsee waves [13:41] <\sh> apachelogger, RC because kopete is the default IM tool for kde4 [13:42] \sh: that is certainly not the only issue in KDE 4.0 [13:42] and compared to others [13:42] this is medium to the target users of ubuntu [13:42] * apachelogger waves at Hobbsee [13:43] greetings [13:43] apachelogger! [13:43] \sh: please get me an account on your server [13:43] <\sh> apachelogger, register yourself :) it's open :) [13:43] or 'ur' how eagles would say ;-) [13:44] * Hobbsee beats apachelogger [13:45] <\sh> apachelogger, grmpf...removing an account from kopete without deleting it from the server gives a dr. konqui....we do have hopefully ddebs available, right? :) [13:46] <\sh> apachelogger @ l-s.org just registered ... welcome to my world ;) [13:46] ahoy :D [13:46] it doesn't crash though [13:46] \sh: are you using ssl? [13:46] <\sh> apachelogger, plain text login... [13:47] <\sh> apachelogger, I didn#t test creating of accounts...just adding an already registered account.. [13:47] \sh: I think the crash happens when creating the contact list [13:47] I can't get it to crahs [13:48] *crash [13:48] <\sh> wow...then there is a problem with the jabber transports [13:48] <\sh> which means, even deeper debugging :( [13:49] well [13:49] I wouldn't care all that much [13:49] IIRC kopete will use telepathy stuff in KDE 4.1 [13:49] grrr [13:49] <\sh> apachelogger, ok...decrease prio to low... [13:50] there seems to be dependency problems [13:50] <\sh> apachelogger, I subscribed to the bug, imho, and will try to hunt for the bugger in jabber plugin [13:50] \sh: you could try getting a backtrace with gdb [13:50] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [13:50] konqueror: Depends: kdesktop (= 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7) but 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu6 is to be installed [13:51] jeroen-: apt-get update [13:51] apachelogger: I did many times [13:51] <\sh> apachelogger, first I need to check, whcih part of the jabber plugin is actually involved...if it's really the transport part...well... [13:51] <\sh> don't use kopete ;) [13:51] switched from the dutch to the main server, but still problems [13:51] *shrug* [13:56] which server is the first one that is updated? [13:56] the main server or another server? [14:00] jeroen-: there must be some local problem [14:00] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdesktop_3.5.9-0ubuntu7_i386.deb [14:00] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/kdesktop/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 [14:01] apachelogger: you mean at my machine? [14:01] jeroen-: yes, the package is certainly built [14:01] well, technically it could also be that the package is not listed in the package list on the server [14:01] though I doub that [14:02] apachelogger: if I do a apt-cache show kdesktop, it gives 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu6 [14:06] jeroen-: -(~:$)-> apt-cache show kdesktop | grep Version: [14:06] Version: 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 [14:07] jeroen-: works fine here.. you just need to wait until your mirror is updated [14:07] <\sh> apachelogger, crashed? ;) [14:08] \sh: removed the account :P [14:08] <\sh> apachelogger, lol [14:08] for me only kopete trunk crashes ;-) [14:13] Oo [14:14] apachelogger: can you teach eagles next time about closing bugs that he gets fixes uploaded for please? [14:14] maybe, I am wrong, but shouldn't people who actually come from the US know how to write proper english? [14:14] apachelogger: yeah. But it's logical that he doesn't. [14:14] Hobbsee: first I need to teach him about how sense changes with different word order http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13482136/kdebase-runtime.debdiff [14:15] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13482136/kdebase-runtime.debdiff [14:15] ehh [14:15] + * Removed from kdebase-bin-kde3 and kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4's conflict and [14:15] + replace lines (LP: #216529) [14:15] apachelogger: seeing as he doesn't appear to listen and process information, it would be unlikely that he'd listened to the information about how to actually put sentences together, and write proper english. [14:16] well, that almost makes me cry TBH [14:16] we were analysing that small changes for about an hour yesterday [14:16] well, he's not here. i could nuke him. [14:16] apachelogger: do you class it as disruption to development yet? [14:16] Hobbsee: for me it's more disruption of learning for school right now ;-) [14:17] apachelogger: sure, but this channel doesn't deal with that. [14:17] apachelogger: is he disrupting kubuntu development yet, in your view? [14:17] if he is, that's reason to nuke. [14:17] see if he learns in another 8 months, or whatever. [14:17] Hobbsee: I think we should talk to him [14:17] Hobbsee: not block him [14:18] but tell him to leave [14:18] apachelogger: and say what? [14:18] and learn about development stuff [14:18] apachelogger: he's not going to follow what he's told. [14:18] and to come back when he thinks he can actually fix bugs in less than 3 days [14:18] Hobbsee: so we can still nuke him [14:18] anyway [14:18] apachelogger: you volunteering to talk to him? you've been working with him the most, it looks like [14:18] gribelu: what server do you use? [14:19] apachelogger: better someone else doing it, rather than me, multiple times, multiple channels. [14:19] Hobbsee: yeah, gotta do that [14:19] apachelogger: thanks [14:20] apachelogger: what server do you use? [14:20] jeroen-: archive.ubuntu.com [14:21] jeroen-: archive. [14:21] gribelu: well thats thew main server isnt [14:21] yes [14:21] strange it does not work [14:21] as I saied, there is a local problem [14:22] apachelogger: well if I knew what kind of problem [14:22] *said even [14:22] jeroen-: when was the last time you ran an apt-get update? [14:22] Hobbsee: 1 1/2 ago it started [14:22] till then I did a apt-get update many times [14:23] oh wait, now it works [14:23] meh [14:23] proberly the main server is not archive.ub at all [14:24] it is. [14:24] well I did it a half hour ago with the main server and it dod not work [14:24] oh well [14:24] it worrks [14:25] [23:25] what the fuck?[23:25] <-- seb128 has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [14:25] [23:25] this guy uploaded *16* debdiffs to fix the bug, and it still looks like he's broken something. [14:26] apachelogger: can you examine the problem, and fix it please? [14:26] apachelogger: those comments on the end of the bug don't look good [14:27] Hobbsee: working on it right now [14:28] apachelogger: thanks. i'll sponsor the fixed version [14:28] i did ask about this days ago, but got no answer. [14:29] it looks like it would break co-installability, or force installation of kde4 if it wasn't already installed. [14:36] apachelogger: please make sure you update https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/216529 as well [14:36] Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] [14:40] Hobbsee: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/216529/kdebase-runtime_4.0.3-0ubuntu2.dsc [14:46] apachelogger: that looks like that was eagles' last patch [14:46] Hobbsee: ? [14:46] apachelogger: with a bit about a changelog fix [14:46] yeah [14:47] though eagles' last one was wrong [14:47] so, a) if the last patch got applied, yours won't, and b) i doubt you're fixing the problem there? [14:47] Hobbsee: the last one didn't get applied [14:47] why don't I fix the problem? :P [14:48] the problem is [14:48] if you have kde3 and install kde4 [14:48] it will remove kde3 [14:48] and vice versa [14:48] call caused by the replace/conflict on kdebase-bin-kde3 [14:49] s/call/all [14:49] yes [14:49] * Hobbsee goes thru the debdiffs to find which one was actually applied [14:49] oh right, one in the middle, not the one at the bottom [14:49] well [14:49] kdebase vs. kdebase-runtime [14:50] re [14:51] that was gross - just watched a video of a hip replacement operation in class - looked scary and kinda like in a slaughterhouse... [14:53] whisky tango foxtrot. [14:54] apachelogger: so, does kdebase-runtime not check the different paths, to see which of kde3/4 runtime stuff it's got installed? [14:56] Hobbsee: kdebase-runtime is a KDE 4 path, therefore only uses the KDE 4 path [14:56] apachelogger: so why force a dep on kde3 stuff? [14:57] if they're the same libraries, in a different path? [14:57] Hobbsee: where do we do that? [14:57] apachelogger: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kdebase/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 [14:58] Hobbsee: it was probably a left over from the times when the kde4 packages weren't in /usr/lib/kde4 [14:58] apachelogger: means that kdebase-bin-kde3 will be force installed on all installations requiring kdebase-runtime, no? [14:58] no [14:58] kdebase is KDE 3 [14:58] kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace and kdebase-kde4 are KDE 4 [14:59] so kdebase was wrong before ubuntu7 as it suggested a KDE 4 packages as alternate dependency [14:59] i know, but the fact that you'r enow not letting kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 satisfy the dependancy of kdebase-runtime, means that you're forcing the kdebase-bin-kde3 to [15:00] apachelogger: which means that you're forcing kde 3 stuff on a kde4 install, no? [15:00] kdebase-runtime depends on kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 [15:01] * apachelogger is confused [15:01] kdebase-bin depends on kdebase-bin-kde3 [15:01] seems good to me [15:01] yeah [15:01] oh, so we have 2 packages that do the same thing, with different names, for kde3 and 4. [15:01] yes [15:02] yes [15:02] wow. [15:02] except they don't because unlike Debian we install kde 4 to a different paht [15:02] do i want to ask why they're so unclearly named? [15:03] kdebase-bin-kde3 vs. kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 [15:03] they both have a -kdeX suffix [15:03] no, kdebase-runtimee vs kdebase-bin [15:03] with a bonus replaces kdebase-runtime-bin in there, just for a bit of variety [15:04] because that's what they're called? [15:04] obviously, but why did upstream use such unclear naming? [15:04] Hobbsee: upstream splitted kdebase in 3 parts [15:04] split. [15:05] (there is no splitted) [15:05] hehe, yeah ;-) [15:05] shame on me [15:05] * apachelogger gives Hobbsee all his cookies :( [15:05] np. you're not native. [15:05] * Hobbsee gives some back, as apachelogger is german. [15:05] austrian! [15:05] ahem. austrian [15:06] * Hobbsee gives a few more back. [15:06] you speak german, dammit. [15:06] yay :) [15:06] Hobbsee: actually I speak bavarian german [15:06] And it makes a big difference. [15:06] We have a German exchange student living with us. [15:06] My wife has some German. [15:07] apachelogger: ahhh [15:07] Sometimes she has to translate for the German students from different parts of Germany. [15:08] Hobbsee: amarok's very own markey for example has problems understanding my german [15:08] austrian? is that like australian? [15:08] :P [15:08] heh [15:08] apachelogger: g'day bruce [15:10] * Hobbsee pets her kangaroo [15:11] * apachelogger starts singing a gstanzl and does a schuhplattler at the same time [15:12] hm [15:13] "The Schuhplattler is said to be the oldest surviving European dance, going back to Neolithic times." [15:13] didn't know that [15:14] * Nightrose takes away apachelogger's coffee [15:14] :P [15:14] meh [15:15] * apachelogger needs to prepare a presentation [15:48] hi, I'm going to install hardy daily in a bit, I think there was a call to test daily yesterday or so... any particular tests I could do? [15:48] sebbar: I think there is a whole testing routine [15:49] anything you can from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all [15:51] ok, tnx [15:58] its the daily live 200080416.1 correct? [16:04] hi. even after reading your discussion about the latest kdebase-runtime/kdebase-bin patch i'm not quite sure which suggested "resolution" i should choose for the conflict in aptitude. could anyone help me out? === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles [16:14] apachelogger: sry for all the confusion on that bug fix [16:14] seezer: im still new to all this i wish i could help ya but dont know that much [16:17] eagles0513875: not that big problem. but i guess it's just not me who asks himself what the conflict message really means :/ [16:17] kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: Conflicts: kdebase-bin-kde3 but 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 is to be installed. [16:17] errm. "not just me" i mean [16:17] seezer: he mentored me on fixing the bug [16:17] he was the one that found it [16:17] seezer: you running kde3 or 4? [16:17] Hobbsee: installed both. running kde4 right now. [16:18] afternoon btw Hobbsee [16:18] seezer: you probably want to keep kde4 [16:18] Hobbsee: hehe. but thats true for kde3 tue ;) [16:18] seezer: what's bringing in kdebase-bin-kde3? [16:18] blah. too [16:19] Hobbsee: sec [16:19] "kdebase-bin-kde3 | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" in kdebase-bin i guess [16:20] aptitude says it'll automatically install kdebase-bin-kde3 [16:20] oh, holy hell. [16:21] seezer: that's not doing the confilct [16:21] Hobbsee: of course it does [16:22] http://seezer.roath.org/files/kdebaseborkness [16:22] now that kdebase-bin doesn't depend on either the KDE 3 or the KDE 4 package [16:22] here's the complete output of aptitude full-upgrade [16:22] it will remove either KDE 3 or KDE 4 since kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 conflicts with it's kde3 pendant [16:22] seezer: that issue should be fixed as soon as kdebase-runtime built [16:23] apachelogger: er, kdebase-bin still depends on boht [16:23] oi [16:23] apachelogger: ah ok [16:23] * jpatrick waves at nixternal [16:23] morning nixternal [16:23] he who broketh shall hurry up and fixeth! [16:23] mornin' jjesse [16:23] :) [16:23] hi [16:24] Hobbsee: did you upload -runtime yet? [16:24] apachelogger: hardy-changes says it got uploaded yesterday [16:25] it's built [16:25] Riddell: you want that kubuntu-meta change to be accepted, i assume? [16:27] amarok (2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low [16:27] . [16:27] * Added kdebase-kio-plugins as a recommened package [16:27] eagles0513875: ^ why? [16:27] what does it give us? [16:28] wtf [16:29] apachelogger: hm? [16:30] Hobbsee: that stuff works perfectly fine for me since Riddell uploaded both changes yesterday [16:30] apachelogger: both kde3 and 4 installed? [16:30] yes [16:31] apachelogger: i wonder if this is because both didn't get uploaded at the same time, or something [16:31] they certainly are published now [16:31] seezer: run apt-get update and try upgrading again [16:32] published or not, my box wants to uninstall everything! I mean everything :p [16:32] am I making the situation better or worse right now? :) [16:32] worse :) [16:32] hehe, good I am succeeding then [16:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7209/ [16:32] works for me [16:32] * apachelogger has to leave for a project presentation [16:32] laters [16:37] apachelogger: a few people uploaded that as well on the bug [16:38] it seems like it wants to uninstall everything kde3 related [16:39] if u have kde4 installed it wants to remove everything kde3 related seems like u cannot have both of them at the same time [16:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/216529 [16:39] Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [Critical,Fix committed] [16:42] ill be back later guys [16:43] plugging my ipod in makes amarok want to remake the database on it [16:47] Riddell: that's to teach you not to use an Ipod I like kde more and more ;) [16:51] I'm easily persuaded to the virtues of things I don't have to pay for unfortunately [16:53] hehe === emonkey-t is now known as emonkey [17:00] nixternal: can you add today's kubuntu meeting to fridge [17:00] 22:00 [17:00] utc === Mez is now known as fishfinder === fishfinder is now known as Mez [17:05] how frequently do the *.archive.ubuntu.com mirrors get synced? [17:05] depends on the mirror [17:05] de in my case [17:06] I'm sure I asked this some time ago but I forgot the answer why are there 2 terminals? [17:06] davmor2: in KDE 4? because adept brings in the KDE 3 one [17:06] that's it :) [17:07] ta [17:09] 22：00 UTC, its too early here, can not join with you guys :) === santiago-ve is now known as santiago-php [17:18] Riddell: added the meeting at 22:00, however at 21:00 there is a Server Team Meeting [17:19] possibly they won't take longer than an hour [17:21] is packages.ubuntu.com "live"? iow does it always show the newest versions or is it also synced from time to time? [17:22] seezer: should be live [17:22] ok. then apachelogger forgot to upload or something.. :) [17:23] by the offset of a day [17:23] or something.. [17:23] packages. will have a delay, launchpad won't [17:27]