[00:00] <level1> this tif file is a real ****... Can I be sure that this is a regular old tiff image or something else
[00:00] <level1> online it says that sometimes they are used for faxes
[00:01] <stdin> level1: "file /path/to/the/proprietary/thing/that/does/not/open.tiff"
[00:01] <evilbug> how can i get drivers for my lexmark 2200 printer? i'm running 7.10
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> Can anyone recommend a good compiz demo video that I could download and play as a full-screen loop?
[00:01] <level1> RENTAL APPLICATION.tif: TIFF image data, little-endian   so I guess it is an image
[00:01] <epimeth> if an upgrade died, do I have to reconfigure all of my packages or do I have another option?
[00:06] <dsmith_> is journal data writeback a safe option? to speed up ext3?
[00:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm so ready to kick ftp
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> why is it that i can connect just fine through any graphical client, but connecting via "ftp" results in a connection refused error...
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> it could be because i'm a complete retard :\
[00:18] <level1> Daisuke_Ido: I like the fish protocol myself
[00:18] <ubuntu_> hey
[00:18] <level1> Jim: hey
[00:18] <martalli> fish rocks
[00:18] <PhilRod> Daisuke_Ido: active vs passive mode?
[00:18] <Jim> my computer crashed
[00:18] <Jim> i am running off the cd now
[00:18] <level1> Jim: sounds unfun
[00:19] <Jim> yup
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> level1, believe me, i do too, but unfortunately, this is my only option in this case :\
[00:19] <level1> what am I supposed to do with these stupid tif files?  I guess Ill just open them in windows and try to find a way to convert them
[00:19] <Jim> how do i undo my changes ?
[00:21] <level1> Jim: what did you change?
[00:21] <Jim> if i start the computer it goes into shell because the nvidia card thing didnt work, you told me before to install nvidia settings and i did and then i enabled my nvidia card, once i did that the nvidia settings got removed and nvidia gx was enabled THEN i removed that and reinstalled nvidia settings and rebooted my computer and it just went into shell :( now im running off the kubuntu cd
[00:21] <level1> Jim: okay...
[00:22] <level1> Jim: nvidia settings should enable or disable nvidia-glx, its just an addon... but anyway
[00:22] <level1> Jim: I guess you could find the xorg.conf file
[00:22] <Jim> :/
[00:23] <Jim> where is dat
[00:23] <level1> Jim: its under /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:23] <Jim> ok since i am running off the cd will i still be able to find it ?
[00:23] <level1> Jim: go to /media/
[00:23] <level1> Jim: there should be something like "100GB Media"
[00:24] <Jim> Hal storage fixed media refused !
[00:24] <Jim> thats kind of not good is it
[00:24] <level1> Jim: is that the only drive under /media?
[00:25] <Jim> remote share (unionfs)
[00:25] <Jim> that the other 1 next to 20gb media
[00:25] <level1> yeah the one you want is 20gb media
[00:25] <level1> go to a command line
[00:26] <level1> and write "sudo mkdir /media/mydrive"
[00:26] <level1> Whats the root password on the live cd?
[00:26] <Jim> in terminal ye
[00:26] <Jim> dunno
[00:26] <level1> yeah
[00:26] <Daisuke_Ido> there isn't one
[00:27] <Jim> i didnt think the cd had a pw
[00:27] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo won't prompt for a password
[00:27] <level1> okay
[00:27] <Daisuke_Ido> and i have figured out my ftp problem
[00:27] <level1> then type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mydrive"
[00:27] <geos> can anyone tell my why kdevelop ignores my overridden slot-functions in my subclass?
[00:28] <Jim> ok i did it
[00:28] <Jim> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mydrive
[00:28] <Jim> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[00:28] <level1> Jim: I see
[00:28] <flipstar> can i make konqueror somehow to support ftpes ?
[00:29] <level1> Jim: do you know how your partitions are laid out?
[00:29] <Jim> not really
[00:29] <level1> Jim: tell me the output of "ls /dev/sd*" is
[00:29] <Jim> when i initially installed kubuntu i just did everything as default i guess
[00:31] <flipstar> or opera/firefox ??
[00:31] <level1> flipstar: whats ftpes?
[00:31] <flipstar> ftp with explicit ssl
[00:32] <Jim> i can find dev but not dev/is
[00:32] <Jim> i can find dev but not dev/sd
[00:32] <flipstar> Jim try <sudo fdisk -l>
[00:33] <level1> that one might be better, haha
[00:33] <flipstar> ftps or ftp or sftp doesn't work ..
[00:34] <Jim>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:34] <Jim> /dev/hda1   *           1        2373    19061091   83  Linux
[00:34] <Jim> /dev/hda2            2374        2482      875542+   5  Extended
[00:34] <Jim> /dev/hda5            2374        2482      875511   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[00:35] <RickKnight> jim: do you have /dev/hda0 or /dev/hda1
[00:35] <level1> oh... I thought they took out hda
[00:35] <Jim> no
[00:35] <RickKnight> SOme systems dont like the sata stuff. Via chipsets in particular.
[00:35] <level1> okay "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/mydrive"
[00:36] <Jim> done
[00:36] <Jim> how do you know all this ? did you go to school to learn or ?
[00:36] <level1> Jim: wasted hours on #kubuntu
[00:36] <Jim> lol
[00:37] <Jim> i can access the hard disk now
[00:37] <level1> Jim: anyways now you can "kdesu kwrite /media/mydrive/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:38] <level1> Jim: that will allow you to edit the file which controls your display configuration
[00:38] <Jim> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-ubuntu" is owned by uid 999 instead of uid 0.
[00:38] <level1> Jim: did you get a kwrite window?
[00:38] <Jim> oh yeh
[00:38] <level1> Jim: as long as you got the window, you can ignore that error
[00:38] <level1> now find a line that looks like Driver "Nvidia"
[00:39] <level1> and change it to Driver "vesa"
[00:39] <Jim> once this problem is fixed can i change my nick to level-223412345134625436
[00:39] <level1> that would make you better than me
[00:39] <level1> at least at super smash
[00:39] <Jim> no - <-- negative
[00:39] <level1> I got my nickname because I play smash bro. like a level 1 computer
[00:40] <Jim> 	Device		"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
[00:40] <Jim> lol
[00:40] <level1> not that
[00:41] <Jim> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[00:41] <level1> yeah thats it
[00:42] <Jim> ok do i blow it up now ?
[00:42] <level1> hmmm?
[00:42] <level1> just reboot and it should work
[00:42] <level1> without the cd
[00:42] <Jim> umm
[00:42] <Jim> u sure ?
[00:42] <level1> yup
[00:42] <Jim> di i delete it
[00:42] <Jim> or something
[00:43] <level1> vesa always works
[00:43] <level1> dont delete it
[00:43] <Jim> but i didnt modifiy it
[00:43] <level1> just change "nvidia" to "vesa"
[00:43] <RickKnight> jim: did you change nvidia to vesa?
[00:43] <Jim> ok done
[00:44] <Jim> now reboot without the cd aye
[00:44] <level1> save the file and reboot
[00:44] <Jim> brb
[00:44] <Jim> booting
[00:45] <level1> why does the livecd have a shutdown process?
[00:45] <level1> why doesnt it just halt?
[00:46] <flipstar> probably a hardware thing
[00:46] <flipstar> unmounting stuff and such
[00:47] <RickKnight> level1: Good question. I have no idea.
[00:48] <jim> YaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY
[00:49] <jim> it worked
[00:49]  * jim dances
[00:49] <level1> RickKnight: I wonder if it was too complicated to rewrite the whole shutdown processes for the live cd
[00:49] <jim> ok now im back to square 2
[00:49] <level1> jim: vesa is much simlier nvidia
[00:49] <jim> ah ok
[00:49] <jim> will that allow me to enable the 3d drivers
[00:49] <level1> jim: which means its more reliable, but doesnt have 3d support
[00:49] <jim> all i really want is that compiz thingy
[00:49] <icesword> jim, good morning
[00:50] <jim> hi icesword
[00:50] <RickKnight> level1:Maybe. When I boot the Hardy CD It does a lot HDD thrashing so it ma need to do some sort of shutdown just to make sure drives are clean.
[00:50] <elpez> !ubotu ati
[00:50] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:51] <jim> Icesword how did you know that it was morning for me ?
[00:52] <RickKnight> Jim: I have an nVidia card. I use the drivers from the nVidia site. Easy to install and they work much better than the kunutu drivers.
[00:52] <icesword> jim, au.
[00:52] <level1> RickKnight: yeah, I would agree
[00:52] <jim> kool kool
[00:52] <level1> theres a instruction manual somewhere
[00:53] <jim> umm so like i really really REALLY want compiz on my computer and for such a long time i have been trying to install it but it never works for me ! can i still have it
[00:53] <level1> jim: yeah
[00:53]  * jim dances
[00:54] <level1> does anybody but me have this problem?  When I use compiz, switching tabs in konqueror takes at least 500 ms, long enough to be annoying
[00:55] <jim> i dont have that problem
[00:55] <RickKnight> Jim: Search the Kubuntu archives for the nVidia howto. It's been a while since I've looked for it but it is there.
[00:55] <jim> i dont have compiz
[00:55] <jim> lol
[00:55] <jim> :)
[00:55] <jim> ok
[00:55] <RickKnight> level1: I don't use compiz.
[00:55] <jim> ill have a squiz now
[00:56] <level1> RickKnight: I would if I didnt have that issue
[00:56] <level1> RickKnight: and when you ask compiz people, its clear that they dont care about/hate KDE
[00:56] <level1> so theyre no help
[00:57] <nonewmsgs> i am using alt cd and it's whining that my ext3 drive contains errors but i dont know how to fsck it without installing linux and it wont install because it has errors
[00:57] <RickKnight> level1: I've always thought compiz was more of gnome thing. Is it?
[00:57] <jim> BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia <--- is that the one i should be looking at ?
[00:58] <level1> RickKnight: yeah
[00:58] <jim> okie
[00:58] <flipstar> nonewmsgs: just boot an live cd and run fsck
[00:58] <RickKnight> Jim:that sounds right. Does it have you download the driver from nVidia?
[00:58] <nonewmsgs> livecds dont work
[00:58] <nonewmsgs> i get a blank screen
[00:59] <RickKnight> Time to go. Bye
[01:00] <Jimbo121> what the hell happened
[01:05] <Jimbo121> ok i clicked the nvidia thingy on kubuntu and nowim going to reboot and see what happends but im tipping that the screen is going to go all big and everything
[01:07] <bragoo08> G'day all
[01:08] <DamienGray> Whats the command to find out what version of kubuntu I'm on?
[01:08] <bragoo08> where do i get smb and/or nfs server
[01:08] <nonewmsgs>  i am using alt cd and it's whining that my ext3 drive contains errors but i dont know how to fsck it without installing linux and it wont install because it has errors
[01:08] <icesword> uname -a
[01:09] <dthacker> !repeat | nonewmsgs
[01:09] <ubotu> nonewmsgs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:09] <dthacker> nonewmsgs: get a live cd.  boot from it.  open a terminal.  run fsck on your hardrive
[01:10] <nonewmsgs> livecds dont boot correctly.  something about a videodriver i think
[01:10] <nonewmsgs> i have 2 SLIed 7900s and i get a blank screen
[01:10] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: nonewmsgs I would suggest removing and re-creating the ext3 partition then.
[01:10] <Jimmy1> ok im back
[01:10] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: If you haven't finished an install yet, there's nothing there to loose.
[01:10] <Jimmy1> level1 you here ?
[01:10] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: It's possible you have a hardware problem.
[01:11] <nonewmsgs> lots to lose.  i have much stuff on that drive
[01:11] <bragoo08> nonewmsgs: I have the same prob. it's the monitor not the vid driver.
[01:11] <dthacker> nonewmsgs: change monitors?
[01:12] <Jimmy1> ok with the nvidia card enabled the screens resolution is very big now ! how do i change it  ?
[01:12] <nonewmsgs> hold on im trying fix a broken system
[01:14] <flipstar> Jimmy1: you can use nvidia-settings to change resolution and write to xorg.conf
[01:14] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: Ok, not clear what you're doing.  Can you boot the existing system?
[01:14] <nonewmsgs> in windows
[01:15] <Jimmy1> last time i tried nvidia settings the computer crashed because it removed the old video setting (nvidia gx) or something
[01:15] <nonewmsgs> and i have an ext3 drive from a previous installation and ifoedit
[01:15] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: That's not gonna do you any good.
[01:15] <jhutchins> nonewmsgs: Boot to the alt CD in rescue mode, the fsck /dev/whatever
[01:15] <jhutchins> Remember it will be the partition, not the drive that gets fsck'ed.
[01:16] <flipstar> Jimmy1: it usally doesn't remove anything
[01:16] <jhutchins> There are also the install CD's from other distros that will do rescue mode, systemrescuecd, and other ways to get at it.
[01:17] <nonewmsgs> fsck: not found
[01:17] <Jimmy1> thats what i thought
[01:17] <Jimmy1> should i try it again then ?
[01:18] <Jimmy1> installing the nvidia settings and then see what happends aye ?
[01:18] <flipstar> sure..you also can just go to systemsettings>monitor
[01:18] <nonewmsgs> ill copy the partition and remake it
[01:18] <flipstar> Jimmy1: you dont need to install
[01:18] <flipstar> its part of the nvidia driver
[01:18] <jhutchins> systemrescuecd has fsck.ext3
[01:18] <Jimmy1> ok
[01:19] <DamienGray> How do I install firefox 2 easily?
[01:19] <Jimmy1> im in system settings but there is no monitor
[01:19] <nonewmsgs> since i have started sli most distros don't give a screen or freeze
[01:20] <Jimmy1> it has personal tab, look and feel tab, computer administration tab and network conectivity. thats all !
[01:20] <flipstar> its under administration..third entry
[01:21] <jarvis> kubunu
[01:21] <Jimmy1> under computer admin it has 4 things , date time , KB and mouse, sound systems and printers thats it
[01:21] <jarvis> gooney goohoo
[01:22] <nonewmsgs> it wouldnt be chaffed that i just have extra files/folders at / would it
[01:22] <flipstar> Jimmy1: thats wired..
[01:22] <jhutchins> DamienGray: aptitude install mozilla-firefox.
[01:23] <jhutchins> !info firefox
[01:23] <ubotu> firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.13+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8981 kB, installed size 26064 kB
[01:23]  * Jimmy1 shruggs
[01:23] <jhutchins> DamienGray: Might be just aptitude install firefox
[01:23] <icesword> !info firefox 8.04
[01:23] <ubotu> firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.13+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8981 kB, installed size 26064 kB
[01:23] <icesword> doesn't work
[01:24] <flipstar> 8.04 has 3.0b5
[01:24] <icesword> nooooo
[01:24] <icesword> b4
[01:24] <flipstar> icesword: replace 8.04 with hardy
[01:24] <jhutchins> icesword: that's because this is kubuntu support, not kubuntu testing.
[01:24] <flipstar> !info firefox hardy
[01:24] <ubotu> firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 62 kB, installed size 120 kB
[01:24] <flipstar> b5
[01:24] <Jimmy1> so what do i do now flipstar  ?
[01:24] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[01:24] <icesword> hhaaa,workssss
[01:24] <nonewmsgs> ff is light?
[01:24] <icesword> !info opera
[01:24] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in gutsy
[01:25] <flipstar> Jimmy1: nvidia drivers are installed proper..?
[01:25] <Jimmy1> as far as i know ! i just let kubuntu do it for me
[01:26] <Jimmy1> i just enabled my nvidia card via the System settings>advanced Clicked administrator mode and then clicked nvidia enable
[01:28] <flipstar> Jimmy1: then start nvidia-settings, it'll show you if its installed
[01:29] <Jimmy1> ok where is nvidia settings ?
[01:29] <Jimmy1> was the the program i tried to install before
[01:29] <Jimmy1> that made my computer crash
[01:30] <kapiton> hi all. i have livecd kubuntu 7.10 and whant to try to compile something from sources. i dont wanna have a long sex with linux=)) is anywhere anyfaq with examples?
[01:30] <flipstar> Jimmy1: in kmenu>settings or start it in a shell/alt+f2
[01:30] <icesword> !compile
[01:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:31] <flipstar> Jimmy1: dont try to install it..
[01:32] <Jimmy1> ok im in it now
[01:32] <flipstar> under X Server Display Configuration you can change the resolution
[01:33] <flipstar> when you run it as root <kdesu nvidia-settings> you can save the changes to xorg.conf
[01:33] <flipstar> so it'll be permanent
[01:34] <pecoso> HI. I'm trying to modify the configuration of my screen (adjust the resolution) I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 graphic card. I tried installing the driver through the restricted drivers manager but it seems to continue working with the default... Can anybody help me?
[01:35] <Jimmy1> there is only 2 settings that i can chose from
[01:35] <Jimmy1> 640 480
[01:35] <Jimmy1> and 320 240
[01:36] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any problem if I use the debian-multimedia repositories to install win32codecs? using hardy here, and it seems like it's not on the repos
[01:36] <nonewmsgs> those aren't too bad.  i remember once on k it was stuck at like 160 120 or some super low bizzare thing like hat
[01:36] <_ZeuZ_> Jimmy1: Problems with "the bulletproof"?
[01:36] <icesword> !info win32codecs
[01:36] <ubotu> Package win32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[01:36] <icesword> !info win32
[01:36] <ubotu> Package win32 does not exist in gutsy
[01:37] <flipstar> _ZeuZ_: it works but i would remove the repo after installing it
[01:37] <_ZeuZ_> icesword: I browsed before asking,
[01:37] <nonewmsgs> they call it restricted
[01:37] <icesword> _ZeuZ_, sudo apt-cache search win32
[01:37] <nonewmsgs> !restricted
[01:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:37] <_ZeuZ_> flipstar; heya, thaks for the tip..
[01:37] <flipstar> np
[01:38] <Jimmy1> whats the bulletproof
[01:38] <_ZeuZ_> icesword, tons of packages, but not the one I seek
[01:38] <icesword> hmm
[01:38] <nonewmsgs> you dont have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg nearly as much now
[01:39] <flipstar> Jimmy1: which version it shows under x server information? and does it detect your screen correct ?
[01:40] <Jimmy1> it doesnt say
[01:40] <flipstar> hm ?
[01:40] <Jimmy1> the screen is oversided and i cant scroll down to see what it says
[01:40] <flipstar> ouch
[01:40] <icesword> Jimmy1, do you run inside vm?
[01:40] <flipstar> you cant move it ?
[01:41] <Jimmy1> whats inside vm
[01:41] <pecoso> nonewmsgs , how should I proceed?
[01:41] <Jimmy1> flipstar: ibeen trying for a while, no lick
[01:41] <icesword> os inside virtual machine
[01:41] <Jimmy1> luckj
[01:41] <Jimmy1> grr LUCK
[01:41] <nonewmsgs> eh?
[01:41] <nejode> _ZeuZ_: the name is w32codecs and they're in the medibuntu repository
[01:41] <nonewmsgs> oh what i did
[01:42] <nonewmsgs> what i did was google my moniter and manually did my xorg.conf file
[01:42] <nonewmsgs> but k was still funky so i made a new user and copied pasted their home overwriting mine
[01:43] <nonewmsgs> then i had to chmod it
[01:44] <DamienGray> how would I get flash player for firefox
[01:44] <DamienGray> I try the auto download thing it didn't work
[01:44] <Jimmy1> So now what flipstar
[01:44] <pecoso> how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[01:45] <icesword> DamienGray, www.adobe.com,and it is free
[01:45] <Jimmy1> why is linix soooo hard to use :(
[01:45] <icesword> type adobe to ff adress bar
[01:45] <NickPresta> Jimmy1, what are you having a problem with?
[01:45] <Jimmy1> i dont wanna go back to windows i hate windows and bill gates
[01:46] <Jimmy1> my screens resolution
[01:46] <nonewmsgs> NickPresta: screenrez
[01:46] <nejode> DamienGray: install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" by apt-get or adept... it will download and install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:46] <icesword> Jimmy1, no worries,we are all here
[01:46] <Jimmy1> i changed settings so i can enable the nvidia card
[01:46] <flipstar> Jimmy1: try nvidia-settings --query all|grep -i nvidia in a shell
[01:46] <icesword> non-free doesn't mean not free,but not free software
[01:47] <Jimmy1> and i rebooted and then the when it rebooted the resolution is massive
[01:47] <NickPresta> Jimmy1, are you using restricted manager? Does it successfully download your nvidia drivers? Can you use nvidia-settings?
[01:47] <Jimmy1> yeh
[01:47] <NickPresta> Jimmy1, and your resolution is too large?
[01:47] <Jimmy1> it doesnt let me use nvidia settings
[01:47] <Jimmy1> yes
[01:48] <NickPresta> Jimmy1, have you tried manually editing your xorg.conf file?
[01:48] <Jimmy1> last time i installed NS it crashed my computer
[01:48] <Jimmy1> i did once but i want the 3d thing to work so i can get compiz to work
[01:48] <NickPresta> and which card do you have?
[01:48] <Jimmy1> i changed it to versa or something
[01:48] <Jimmy1> Geforce 5200
[01:48] <_ZeuZ_> nejode: found them as w64codecs xD
[01:49] <flipstar> Jimmy1: did you changed it back after install the nvidia drivers ?
[01:49] <_ZeuZ_> !p2p
[01:49] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[01:49] <Jimmy1> no currently im using what ever is default for the nvidia card
[01:49] <pcg|Raven-CSS> hey got a small prob trying to login to live cd and it want let me any advice
[01:50] <_ZeuZ_> wich P2P do you guys prefer for networks appart from bittorrent?
[01:50] <NickPresta> Jimmy1, you said you got your resolution and such working before, but CF didn't work, correct?
[01:50] <Jimmy1> if i unclick the nvidia card it goes back to normal (small screen)
[01:50] <NickPresta> _ZeuZ_, GNUtella Network - frostwire
[01:50] <nejode> _ZeuZ_: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:50] <Jimmy1> if i dont use nvidia the resolution is fine
[01:50] <icesword> Jimmy1, you 'd rather paste your xorg.conf
[01:50] <pecoso> nonewsmsgs how about proceeding with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[01:50] <Jimmy1> ok how do ido that
[01:50] <_ZeuZ_> nejode: I allready installed w64codecs that had some similar description
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> NickPresta: is it in the repos?
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> NickPresta: is it in the repos?
[01:51] <flipstar> _ZeuZ_: yes
[01:51] <flipstar> frostwire is in the repos
[01:51] <Jimmy1> all i really want to do is have resolution back to normal whilst using the nvidia card AND get compiz working
[01:52] <_ZeuZ_> flipstar: weird, not on mines... browsed for frost, nothing came up
[01:52] <flipstar> oops
[01:53] <flipstar> http://www.frostwire.com/download/?os=ubuntu&from=
[01:53] <_ZeuZ_> perhaps it's something to be with Hardy, and the package not ported yet
[01:53] <flipstar> no.. it is not..my bad
[01:53] <NickPresta> Frostwire has never been in the repos, I don't think.
[01:54] <flipstar> its just that when you install deb's they appear in the package list
[01:54] <Dr_willis> It might been in the medibuntu, or severas at one time?
[01:54] <NickPresta> yeah.
[01:54] <Jimmy1> iceword Can i pvt message you
[01:54] <_ZeuZ_> my neighbourg is going to hate me... I've been injecting packets and dissasociating him for like 2 hours xD
[01:54] <GS3User> i'm having a network issue. i can connect to the internet okay, but am unable to ping the other machine on my LAN, nor can i ping my router at 192.168.0.1. Thoughts?
[01:54] <icesword> just speak here,then veryone can help
[01:54] <Jimmy1> i been here for a hour and still no luck
[01:55] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, The route to the gateway is okay?
[01:55] <icesword> Jimmy1, keep asking.or see
[01:55] <flipstar> GS3User: is the interface 'lo' enabled? <ifconfig|grep lo>
[01:55] <jhutchins> GS3User: subnet mask is wrong.
[01:55] <Jimmy1> nah forget it
[01:55] <icesword> !nvidia | Jimmy1
[01:55] <ubotu> Jimmy1: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <Jimmy1> im going back to windows
[01:55] <_ZeuZ_> :O
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Your loss. you could try the  Hardy live cd.
[01:55] <jhutchins> Jimmy1: Your loss, not ours.
[01:56] <icesword> hehehe
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I dont get proper res untill i have the nvidia drivers installed.
[01:56] <jhutchins> Jimmy1: ... or any of a dozen other distros.
[01:56] <_ZeuZ_> Blasfemy!
[01:56] <_ZeuZ_> (or whatever it's written)
[01:56] <GS3User> flipstar: appears to be
[01:56] <GS3User> jhutchins: how do i fix that?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> also it can depend on which lcd monitor i have. some dont give the proper info to the drivers
[01:56] <icesword> then why you guys help him
[01:56] <icesword>  /her
[01:56] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, ifconfig ethX netmask XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
[01:56] <jhutchins> GS3User: However you're configuring stuff, make the netmask match on all the local boxes.
[01:56] <_ZeuZ_> obviously replace the Xs
[01:56] <Dr_willis> If people dont want to put forth any effort. then they cant be helped. I guess.
[01:57] <icesword> hehe,c
[01:57] <jhutchins> They do tend to think that there is some organzed entity that is paid to support them.
[01:57] <_ZeuZ_> hey guys, by the way, I lost the password of my Access Point, and I'm not confy with highs, so I wanted to ask you if appart from thc-hydra, you knew any simple authentication forcer?
[01:58] <jhutchins> _ZeuZ_: Reset it to factory defaults.  There's usually a recessed button, either press it or hold it while powering up.
[01:58] <jhutchins> _ZeuZ_: Then consult the docs for the default password.
[01:58] <_ZeuZ_> jhutchins, told ya, the AP is like 4 metters high
[01:59] <NickPresta> I was wondering why my eth device gets renamed to 'eth0_rena'med? Where are the device names set? If I know where to look I can probably figure it out
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> I know mine has admin/1234 (Edimax router) though I changed it..
[01:59] <jhutchins> _ZeuZ_: Well, not me, I wasn't paying attention.  Get whoever put it up there to reset it.
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> not easy as he won't be back until 3 weeks and I'm getting mad at my AP, enough like to shot it down...
[01:59] <jhutchins> NickPresta: You're trying to configure it manually, and kubuntu is auto-configuring it.
[01:59] <GS3User> subnet mask is the same on both of my machines, as well as my router. still cannot ping my router
[02:00] <smeg0l> upgrading from one ubuntu to another ubuntu is there any big issues i should be aware of
[02:00] <GS3User> on the linux box, that is. windows can ping it fine
[02:00] <jhutchins> GS3User: Maybe the router doesn't answer pings?
[02:00] <jhutchins> Ah.
[02:00] <jhutchins> It was a theory.
[02:00] <GS3User> jhutchins: it answers my xp box
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, try route add default gw IP.oF.You.RRouter
[02:00] <NickPresta> jhutchins, I've set the device to manual configuration, yep (for a static address). Is that the reason why?
[02:00] <flipstar> NickPresta:  /etc/network/interfaces probably
[02:01] <jhutchins> GS3User: Can the windows box ping the linux box?
[02:01] <GS3User> jhutchins: no, the boxes cannot communicate with eachother at all right now
[02:01] <jhutchins> NickPresta: Yes, you need to go through the GUI setup.  Not worth fighting it.
[02:01] <NickPresta> jhutchins, fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up :)
[02:01] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, does your router allow ICMP echo?
[02:01] <jhutchins> _ZeuZ_: See above, windows pings it.
[02:02] <GS3User> _ZeuZ_: i have no idea, and no idea how to find out
[02:02] <jhutchins> GS3User: router assigning DHCP?
[02:02] <GS3User> jhutchins: on the linux box, yes
[02:02] <_ZeuZ_> ?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome.  got my cron job together for uploading an irc stats page for another channel i frequent...  honestly, i was making it harder than it had to be
[02:02] <jhutchins> GS3User: Do you have a firewall enabled on the linux box?
[02:03] <smeg0l> i'm planning on upgrading my hardy to final
[02:03] <GS3User> jhutchins: no
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> smeg0l, you'r already running the hardy beta?
[02:03] <jhutchins> smeg0l: No big issues within a release.
[02:03] <_ZeuZ_> then perhaps they are on different sub networks... (not netmasks but different network patterns) like one is in 192.168.2.24 and the other is in 169.198.2.146
[02:03] <smeg0l> yes
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> then once it hits final, you'll be there too
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> rolling upgrade, so to speak
[02:03] <smeg0l> thx
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> joeyadams, is there a lauren in there somewhere?
[02:04] <GS3User> _ZeuZ_: one has an IP of 192.168.0.100 (linux on the dhcp), the other is 192.168.0.20 (a static IP setup for port forwarding simplicity)
[02:04] <jhutchins> GS3User: netmask?
[02:04] <_ZeuZ_> did you try restarting the network service? (/etc/init.d/networking restart )
[02:05] <GS3User> juhutchins: both are on 255.255.255.0
[02:05] <GS3User> _ZeuZ_: will do, gimme a sec
[02:05] <GS3User> _ZeuZ_: didn't hlep
[02:06] <jhutchins> Only thing i can think of is some wierd routing or gateway issue.
[02:06] <GS3User> what's Bcast?
[02:06] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, did you add the default route as I told ya?
[02:06] <_ZeuZ_> sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[02:07] <_ZeuZ_> it shoulda been configured automatically, but just in case
[02:07] <jhutchins> wouldn't it be better if he/we looked at his routing table first?
[02:07] <GS3User> still says "port unreachable"
[02:07] <_ZeuZ_> also consider doing: sudo echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf  //// After we look at your route -n
[02:08] <nonewmsgs> what are illegal block?
[02:08] <GS3User> _ZeuZ_: so what am i doing now...?
[02:08] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, use the command 'route -n' and paste the output in www.pastebin.com then handle as the URL
[02:09] <_ZeuZ_> GS3User, adding the routes that should work to the routing table, and adding your router as dns server
[02:09] <dwidmann> _ZeuZ_: I thought you had to put it in /etc/hosts because /etc/resolv.conf was dynamic?
[02:09] <dwidmann> _ZeuZ_: or something like that
[02:09] <flipstar> nonewmsgs: a corrupt/bad block
[02:10] <GS3User> http://pastebin.com/d718333f1
[02:10] <nonewmsgs> oh.  i told fsck to go ahead and clear them
[02:11] <flipstar>  /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf probably instead resolv.conf
[02:12] <flipstar> nonewmsgs: if you have many of them your drive is probably damaged
[02:12] <GS3User> http://pastebin.com/d50096537
[02:13] <nonewmsgs> i had 12
[02:13] <nonewmsgs> all in inode 283
[02:13] <flipstar> okay..&fsck didn't helped ?
[02:14] <nonewmsgs> no it fixed them.  now it's restarting it from the begining
[02:15] <r0wbrt> does anybody know a fix for "Malformed URL trash:/" with desktop  icons when using dolphin as the file manager  Kde  3.5.7, dolphin 8.2
[02:16] <GS3User> hello?
[02:17] <jhutchins> that's not what my routing table looks like.
[02:18] <GS3User> that's what cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf yields
[02:18] <jhutchins> http://pastebin.com/m45858a9d
[02:19] <GS3User> http://pastebin.com/d718333f1
[02:21] <jhutchins> Like I said, that looks wrong.  Here's my kubuntu routing table from fiesty: http://pastebin.com/d4bdf83b4
[02:21] <jhutchins> Something is building your routing table wrong.
[02:21] <jhutchins> GS3User: What are you running?
[02:21] <bragoo08> Does anyone now where i can get smb or nfs server?
[02:21] <GS3User> jhutchins: kubuntu (how do i check the version number?)
[02:22] <Jucato> GS3User: "lsb_release -a"
[02:22] <GS3User> 7.10
[02:22] <jhutchins> cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:22] <will00> im trying to get 4 desktops running, but the desktop pager is only allowing me two, furthermore its telling me ther is only one available
[02:22] <will00> any ideas?
[02:23] <Jucato> will00: running Compiz?
[02:23] <will00> yes
[02:23] <Jucato> ah figures... #compiz-fusion please
[02:23] <will00> ok
[02:23] <GS3User> juhtchins: kubuntu 7.10
[02:24] <jhutchins> Yeah.  Well, to state the obvious, something is wrong.
[02:24] <jhutchins> How did the networking get set up in the first place?
[02:25] <jhutchins> Then again, my installation has 190 out-of-date packages...
[02:25] <GS3User> jhutchins: hooked everything up, started samba, everything took off like a dream. Now that I think about it, I did change DNS servers a few days ago... could that have anything to do with it?
[02:25] <jhutchins> Yes, but the route table is still wrong.
[02:26] <GS3User> jhutchins: oh
[02:27] <jhutchins> GS3User: So you mean now it's working right?  How did the networking originally get istalled on that box, was it during kubuntu install?  Is this system upgraded from a previous release.
[02:27] <jhutchins> >?
[02:28] <jhutchins> Well, I can't wait around for answers, got other things to do, good luck.
[02:28] <GS3User> jhutchins: i installed (clean, new partition) 7.10 a few months back. I don't recall having to do anything to get it to go. I'm on the box right now. It connects to the internet just fine, but since I did the DNS change on my router, it can no longer ping my xp box nor the router (though it can connect to the router if i put its addy in firefox)
[02:31] <vit> LLLLLLLLL
[02:42]  * Dr_willis reinstalls Lilo on vit
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> mornin' doc
[02:43] <Dr_willis> its almost 10pm here. :) abou time for me to go to work.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> 3rd shift.. weee.. gotta love it. :(
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> you're a 3rd shifter, that makes it morning for you :)
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and i understand working 3rd - i hate it
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Luckly - we have no kids here any more. So i can sleep during the day
[02:45] <BluesKaj> I located a start up script for the pyTivo server installed on my pc. I assumed ( erroneously ) that it goes in the pyTivo folder and it would work from that location., but it doesn't. Any suggestions where it might belong ?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> I did try it in the auto start folder , but no joy
[02:49] <will00> what are the packages i need to install in order to install from source?
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> will00: build-essentials
[02:50] <will00> k thanks
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> will00: *build-essential
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> no "s"
[02:52] <flipstar> is there no way to make firefox/opera/konqueror to understand ftp with explicit ssl ?
[02:52] <will00> odd-rationale, now i get the error "cant find x libaries" is that libx11?
[02:53] <Jucato> !x-includes
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-includes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Jucato> !xincludes
[02:53] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following package: xorg-dev
[02:54] <will00> thanks
[02:55] <zero88> Hello. Im new to Kubuntu. Can anyone tell me how to install a theme?
[02:55] <Jucato> !changethemes | zero88
[02:55] <ubotu> zero88: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[02:56] <nonewmsgs> ok one of my movie files in / (2) has deleted/unused inode 283.  clear<y>?
[02:56] <zero88> thanks
[02:56] <nonewmsgs> is it ok to say n?
[02:59] <zero88> I know how to install the theme. But should i keep it in the tar.gz format ?
[02:59] <Jucato> zero88: that depends on what kind of a theme it is.
[03:00] <zero88> wait. I think I had to go under theme manager under the kde themes at kde-lok.oirg
[03:01] <Jucato> that would be a .kth file (KDE THeme). see the guide linked to above for instructions
[03:02] <zero88> k thanks
[03:04] <_ZeuZ_> "Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[03:04] <_ZeuZ_> " Error on Frostwire, Java version is 1.6.0; what can possibly be the responce to fix this?
[03:04] <will00> anyone know what causes this error when compiling from source? http://pastebin.com/m6987b6a1
[03:05] <epimeth> if an upgrade died, do I have to reconfigure all of my packages or do I have another option?
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> epimeth, dpkg-configure -a is the best option as far as i know
[03:07] <Jucato> or try to continue the upgrade with "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and/or "sudo apt-get install -f"
[03:08] <epimeth> Daisuke_Ido: meh... all right
[03:09] <will00> anyone know why i get this compiling error? http://pastebin.com/m6987b6a1
[03:11] <flipstar> will00: seems like you trying to compile kicker-compiz ..?
[03:11] <will00> yea
[03:11] <flipstar> why dont you take the .deb ?
[03:11] <will00> the one on kde-look is for i386, im x86_64
[03:12] <Jucato> will00: why not ask in #copmiz-fusion if they can point you to a .deb for 64bit?
[03:12] <will00> ok
[03:15] <haker> how do i open ports?
[03:16] <leo_rockw> greetings #kubuntu o/
[03:16] <gokorn> is any howto for install compiz on kubuntu?
[03:17] <Jucato> !compiz | gokorn
[03:17] <ubotu> gokorn: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:18] <nacho> eiii
[03:18] <nacho> alguien puede ayudarme
[03:18] <nacho> pasandome el canal de chat en espea;ol
[03:18] <leo_rockw> !es | nacho
[03:18] <ubotu> nacho: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:18] <gokorn> tnx
[03:18] <nacho> grazias
[03:18] <leo_rockw> nacho: de nada
[03:19] <leo_rockw> sometimes in kopete the message bubble appears on top of the screen instead of at the bottom (where i have my kicker) this appears to happen randomly. anyone experienced this and found a solution?
[03:23] <will00> does anyone have a 64 bit .deb for compiz-kicker?
[03:30] <myk_robinson> hey, guys.. My amarok cannot find covers for ANYTHING, even Michael Jackson's "Bad". I have deleted teh config file and started again, with same results. ANy advice?
[03:31] <leo_rockw> myk_robinson: what version of amarok?
[03:31] <myk_robinson> 1.4.8
[03:31] <leo_rockw> myk_robinson: amazon changed the way they provide their covers. you need 1.4.9.1
[03:32] <myk_robinson> hmm, not in the repos for 7.10.. Works fine on my 8.04 beta installation.. How do i get it for this one?
[03:33] <leo_rockw> myk_robinson: i'm on hardy, so i'm not sure.
[03:33] <leo_rockw> myk_robinson: maybe someone created a deb for gutsy, but i doubt it
[03:33] <hydrogen> I'm not positive its been packaged yet
[03:33] <hydrogen> apachelogger said it was going to be done yesterday
[03:34] <hydrogen> but
[03:34] <hydrogen> I don't believe him :p
[03:34] <myk_robinson> no big deal.. I will upgrade to Hardy once it goes stable.
[03:34] <myk_robinson> Upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 pretty smooth?
[03:35] <jayman> no big errors in hardy beta?
[03:36] <leo_rockw> i had problems with ati
[03:36] <leo_rockw> which is no news
[03:36] <jayman> i am going to replace windows vista with the hardy version
[03:36] <leo_rockw> now everything works great for me
[03:37] <martalli> jayman: Its runny pretty smooth for me, but the nvidia driver doesn't seem to be working.  I almost didn't notice, but I am not playing games, and my functionality was basically the same
[03:37] <leo_rockw> i replaced vista with xp 2 minutes after buying my comp
[03:37] <leo_rockw> then xp with kubuntu when i finished downloading the iso :-P
[03:37] <martalli> I will fiddle withthe nvidia driver after 8.04 gets released
[03:37] <myk_robinson> you may just wanna manually install the official nvidia driver.. This is what i have always done.. Downside, whenever there is a kernel update, you have to reinstall the driver manually.. Not hard, though
[03:38] <jayman> i plan on using virtual vista just to run games or other non supported products
[03:44] <leo_rockw> jayman: running games in a virtual machine won't work
[03:44] <leo_rockw> jayman: i mean, accelerated games
[03:45] <jayman> you can't run games in a second partition on a computer
[03:45] <jayman> ?
[03:45] <myk_robinson> yeah, if gaming is important, best bet is dual booting or Cedega
[03:45] <jayman> i plan on partitioning 20% for vista, and the rest for Kunbuntu
[03:46] <myk_robinson> oh, so you're deaul booting. I thought you meant using VMware or Virtual Box or something
[03:46] <jayman> no, i will have two OS
[03:46] <jayman> i have heard it called a virtual OS because it is rarely used
[03:47] <myk_robinson> cool. Well, thanks for the info on Amarok.. I gotta get going.
[03:47] <myk_robinson> goodnight, all (or morning, depending on where you live)
[03:54] <Ketrel> How can I get kubuntu not to turn off my screen after x ammount of time
[03:55] <maduser> got to the power options or screen saver
[03:56] <Ketrel> maduser: I don't see anything in power, or screensaver that would indicate that this should be happening
[03:58] <xoqa> oi, how do i get kate to hilight all instance of search?
[03:58] <Jucato> I don't think that's possible yet... you can try asking in #kate if the feature is there
[03:59] <xoqa> the feature is present in kde4 kate...
[04:00] <xoqa> guess i could redownload it
[04:00] <Ketrel> Is there any other place the option would be?
[04:03] <xoqa> Ketrel: go into your system settings (kcontrol center)
[04:03] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: alt+f2 > kcontrol
[04:03] <xoqa> under the computer administration section, go into monitor and display
[04:04] <xoqa> and click the power saving tab
[04:04] <xoqa> you will see what you are looking for
[04:04] <Ketrel> xoqa: thanks  I thought the power manager that was being referred to was the one that displays its icon on kicker
[04:05] <xoqa> yw
[04:10] <Ketrel> One more question, I tried getting the GPL'd beryl themes, but it says svn.beryl-project.org connection refused (when I tried running it via konsole), is there a mirror that can be used?
[04:15] <BluesKaj> how & where does one make an init.d script ?
[04:16] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: if you're using gutsy beryl is deprecated
[04:16] <zero88> how do i get something to start up eveery session like firestarter?
[04:17] <leo_rockw> zero88: just letting you know: firestarter is just a frontend and does not need to be running for the firewall to work
[04:18] <zero88> leo_rockw: ah i understand ;) thanks
[04:19] <ShawnRisk> hey, I am using parallels on a mac to load kubuntu (Linux) and the keyboard isn't working.  Any ideas why?
[04:19] <leo_rockw> zero88: if you need any other application to start when kde starts just create a shortcut in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:22] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[04:22] <epimeth> ShawnRisk: you should probably ask mac support....
[04:22] <ShawnRisk> I am
[04:23] <epimeth> okay :-)
[04:24] <ShawnRisk> but I think it might be linux
[04:29] <Ketrel> leo_rockw, I'm using emerald theme mangage
[04:29] <ShawnRisk> everyone is telling me the problem is with Linux
[04:29] <ShawnRisk> can someone help?
[04:29] <Ketrel> it fetched the gpl'd themes from the beryl site
[04:29] <Ketrel> or attempts to
[04:30] <leo_rockw> ShawnRisk: probably nobody here used parallels
[04:30] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: i don't use compiz-fusion, sorry
[04:30] <ShawnRisk> :P
[04:31] <KrazyWolf> I think I quit on kubuntu and linux as a whole
[04:32] <KrazyWolf> I can't get it to work
[04:32] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ok
[04:33] <KrazyWolf> I got frustrated and was trying to do ctrl+alt+del, knowing it wasn't windows, and it popped up to restart or shutdown or some crap and i don't think i let go of alt and pressed one of the function keys and it took me to some command prompt, and now when I restart my computer it says "error 15: file not found press any key to continue"
[04:34] <Ketrel> Ok, a more general question, in firefox in linux and kde, is there any way to make backspace work as a Back, if you're not in a text field?
[04:34] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ctrl + alt + Fx takes you to terminals
[04:34] <LimCore> Fx is F1  F2  etc.  F7 is the GUI usually
[04:34] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: you're not used to alt+left? it happened the same to me
[04:35] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw, I guess it did, so i pressed like f7 or so, and restarted it and now its giving me the error 15
[04:35] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: i didn't find a solution, just got used to it.
[04:35] <Hydrogen> Ketrel: I know opera does it
[04:35] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: grub error 15?
[04:35] <Hydrogen> I don't use firefox, so couldn't say ;)
[04:35] <KrazyWolf> i don't know?
[04:35] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: firefox is alt+left
[04:35] <KrazyWolf> when it boots it comes to "Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue..."
[04:36] <Hydrogen> leo_rockw: opera is both
[04:36] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: grub error 15, then
[04:36] <Hydrogen> so there!
[04:36] <KrazyWolf> when I press a key it gives me different types of boot options, normal, recovery mode, memtest, all do the same thing
[04:36] <Ketrel> I normally use Seamonkey, is it the same there?
[04:36] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: i know, i used to use opera. i stopped using it because it's non-free
[04:36] <Hydrogen> leo_rockw: idealism will get you no where :)
[04:37] <KrazyWolf> so what does a grub error 15 mean? reinstall? again? lol
[04:37] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: used opera from 7.5 till 9.5, actually.
[04:37] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: konqueror is better too
[04:37] <Hydrogen> leo_rockw: definatly disagree with that
[04:37] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: idk what grub error 15 is, what did google tell you?
[04:37] <Hydrogen> Opera is much faster and sexier
[04:37] <Hydrogen> and renders more sites
[04:37] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: and if it isn't (which it is) i can change it
[04:37] <KrazyWolf> I've never had so much problem with installing an OS lol
[04:38] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: idealism is what made gnu possible ;-)
[04:38] <KrazyWolf> No wonder why Windows is widely used than linux
[04:38] <Hydrogen> leo_rockw: yes, and rms is one hell of a zealot
[04:39] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: exactly. window$ is so much better. don't waste your time or our time
[04:39] <leo_rockw> Hydrogen: true. i like that, haha
[04:39] <root> para un canal en español
[04:39] <leo_rockw> !es | fox
[04:39] <ubotu> fox: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:40] <neville_> Yeah KrazyWolf, considering how many people install Windows when they get their new OEM computers themselves...
[04:40] <KrazyWolf> I mean linux isn't obviously for the normal users since you got to do so many different commands and stuff to it in order to make certain things work, i ust want to be exposed to linux just for experience but i just can't seem to get it working :(
[04:40] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: tell that to my 55 year old mom who's using ubuntu right now
[04:40] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: and she's no guru
[04:40] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw, did she set it up?
[04:40] <Ketrel> Is there any way to get a grapical GRUB?
[04:40] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: do people set up their window$ mahcines?
[04:41] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: I don't know why I'm having so much trouble with this
[04:41] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: not really its more user-friendly
[04:41] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: basically nvidia sold you something that doesn't work unless you use the system they want you to use.
[04:41] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: we disagree then
[04:41] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: My graphics card works fine, I'm running kubuntu on my compaq laptop
[04:42] <KrazyWolf> nvidia is on my desktop, which im on right now, kubuntu is on laptop, which is screwed up
[04:42] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what happened?
[04:42] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: That error 15 thingie, I don't know what happend lol
[04:42] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: before that. why did you restart?
[04:43] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: because I was trying to run adept_manager to update but it kept saying something else was using admin rights or something when I just turned it on
[04:43] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[04:44] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i never use adept, i don't know what to tell you.
[04:44] <neville_> KrazyWolf burn a SuperGrub disk, and get it to repair Grub.
[04:45] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: I don't know how else to update anything in this OS
[04:45] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: I couldn't even get my wireless card to work earlier, I spent almost 2 hours following tutorials and asking questions
[04:45] <neville_> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[04:46] <neville_> ?
[04:46] <KrazyWolf> huh
[04:46] <leo_rockw> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[04:46] <neville_> What if dist-upgrades ruins things even more than they currently are?
[04:47] <leo_rockw> neville_: the only thing that isn't working right now is grub
[04:47] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: if this is your first time in linux it will take time to adapt. if you want everything working out of the box try something like mint or linspire
[04:48] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i use GNU because it's free (as in freedom) not because it autodetects my hardware (which it doeS)
[04:48] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: mint gives you propietary codecs, propietary repos, propietary drivers... all those things you want
[04:49] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: I'm using kubuntu, so i don't know what you mean with this mint or linspire things lol
[04:49] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: they are different gnu distros
[04:49] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: kubuntu is just one of many
[04:50] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: linspire is like 50 bucks or so
[04:51] <jim> Ok i was just about to go back to windows and i thought i would ask you guys 1 last time to see if i can fix the same problem !
[04:51] <KrazyWolf> I'm having such a bad experience with kubuntu that I hope I don't get discouraged after a wile and say screw it lol
[04:52] <leo_rockw> jim: ask away
[04:52] <KrazyWolf> jim: me and you are in the same boat lol I'm having bad experience with this but want to see what the hype is about lol
[04:52] <Ketrel> I restarted and used a new session and knetworkmanager isn't shwoing up on kicker. How can I get it to?
[04:52] <jim> i am trying to activate my nvidia card but when i do the resolution is BIG and its driving me nutz
[04:52] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: alt+f2 > knetworkmanager
[04:52] <Ketrel> I already did that
[04:52] <Ketrel> and running ps x shows it's running
[04:52] <leo_rockw> jim: what drivers are you using?
[04:53] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: try dcop kicker kicker restart
[04:53] <jim> what command do i type to find out ?
[04:53]  * leo_rockw hates nvidia
[04:54] <leo_rockw> jim: did you install nvidia drivers at any point?
[04:54] <jim> what i am trying to do is enable my nvidia 3d card so i can put compiz on the computer
[04:54] <jim> yes and no
[04:54] <jim> i did and then took them off
[04:54] <jim> but now it is disabled
[04:54] <leo_rockw> jim: you may need them to use compiz. i have ati so i'm not sure.
[04:55] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: That tut isn't working for me, when I hit esc during isntall it doesn't take me anywhere that says install grub, I'm going to do a fresh install once more and give it another go, god I hope things work out lol
[04:55] <jim> i have no problem with switching to nvidia but what happends is the screen is oversized and i cant change the settings on it to make it small again
[04:55] <ShawnRisk> where can I find slow keys?
[04:55] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: a fresh install wouldn't help you
[04:55] <Ketrel> Resrtarting kicker didn't help :(
[04:55] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: why do you say that?
[04:56] <leo_rockw> jim: you need to edit your xorg.conf
[04:56] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: because grub is part of the mbr
[04:56] <jim> ok what do i type to do that ?
[04:56] <leo_rockw> jim: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:56] <leo_rockw> jim: read on google what to change there
[04:57] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: what about killing kicker and loading it again?
[04:57] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: soooo im f'd?
[04:57] <jords> can anyone recommend me a CLI download accelerator that allows you to use http basic authentication? Axel is great apart from that last point... can't find anything on how to to the authentication with it
[04:57] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: nope
[04:57] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: you need to repair grub
[04:57] <ShawnRisk> I need to find slow keys anywhere know where it is?
[04:57] <leo_rockw> jords: wget maybe?
[04:57] <jim> how do i know what to look for on google ?
[04:57] <leo_rockw> jords: idk if it gets http authentication
[04:58] <jords> leo_rockw: it does, but no acceleration
[04:58] <Ketrel> No luck on killing kicker
[04:58] <jords> leo_rockw: can't find one with both :<
[04:58] <dek> I just opened VirtualBox and I get this message: "The snapshot folder of a machine with snapshots cannot be changed (please discard all snapshots first)." It worked before, anyone know how can I fix this (i get no answer in #vbox)?
[04:58] <Ketrel> I'll try killing knetworkmanager
[04:58] <dwidmann> Ketrel: kill -9 `pidof kicker`
[04:58] <leo_rockw> jim: just read all the manuals until you understand xorg.conf
[04:59] <ShawnRisk> I got it
[04:59] <Ketrel> dwidmann, I meant killing it didn't make it work, it did exit though
[04:59]  * leo_rockw wonders what slow keys are...
[04:59] <dwidmann> Ketrel: ah, I can never have the whole picture >.>
[04:59] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: knetwork manager is not showing up on his systray for some reason
[05:00] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: oh, that's no fun
[05:00] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: when I hit esc when i put the livecd in, it takes me to a text based screen that says "boot: _"
[05:00] <Ketrel> killing knetworkmanager and starting it again made it show up.
[05:00] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: :-)
[05:00] <Ketrel> I'm rebooting to see if it still comes up again
[05:00] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: iunno, I just hit enter and it did something
[05:00] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: don't restart the whole system, jsut kde
[05:00] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: im so confused lol
[05:00] <jim> isnt there an easier way ?
[05:00] <Ketrel> leo_rockw: too late XD
[05:00] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: log out, go to "restart x server" in the kdm menu
[05:00] <jim> cause i dont understand half this stuff
[05:00] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: it's normal. i broke 3 installations of slackware in a day when i started
[05:01] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann, I can't get into kubuntu anymore, I get grub erro 15
[05:01] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: he has grub error 15
[05:01] <dwidmann> Umm, let me look that one up
[05:01] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[05:01] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[05:01] <dwidmann> file not found
[05:01] <KrazyWolf> whoops
[05:02] <dwidmann> error while parsing number?
[05:02] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: read napsalin's post on how he fixed it
[05:02] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: i was trying to do the same but when I hit esc and entered a text-line thing, all I got was something that said "Boot: _"
[05:02] <dwidmann> if it can't find the file it probably doesn't exist and you'd need to edit the menu.lst probably, I'd assume.
[05:02] <jim> Krazywolf: is it driving you crazy like me ?
[05:03] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: weren't you the one with the nvidia 8800? Having any luck with that yet?
[05:03] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ralphie's post seems better
[05:03] <KrazyWolf> jim: yes, This is my first time trying to go with linux and it isn't working out for me, AT ALL
[05:03] <jim> why cant they make linux sooo much easier than this
[05:03] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: he installed it on his laptop
[05:03] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: ah
[05:03] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: yes, but i forgot who told me that 8800gts isn't support in the 7.10, and it will be in the next release, but i installed it on my compaq laptop and im having all sorts of trouble
[05:03] <Ketrel> Ok, after rebooting, knetworkmanager is showing upi fine. However, I do plan to shoot myself now. It has decided it will autoconnect now.
[05:03] <jim> you gunna go back to windows then ?
[05:04] <KrazyWolf> jim: I'm not sure, I really want to give linux a go
[05:04] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: is that bad?
[05:04] <Ketrel> I spent 4 hours trying to get it to do that last night.
[05:04] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: , let me verify that info for you, it may be wrong
[05:04] <Ketrel> and Gave up
[05:04] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: HAHAHA
[05:04] <leo_rockw> sorry caps
[05:04] <jim> hahah i been trying to give it a go for about 2 months now ! once you fix 1 problem 2 more arise in its place, i been here all day trying to sort this shit out to no avail
[05:04] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: deleting quiet and changing splash for nosplash might make it work for your 8800gts
[05:05] <leo_rockw> !ohmy | jim
[05:05] <ubotu> jim: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:05] <jim> i didnt swear did i
[05:05] <leo_rockw> jim: yup
[05:05] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: I tried to do that but it didn't work
[05:05] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: you tried nosplash. you didn't delete the 'quiet'
[05:06] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i found another post later on.
[05:06] <jim> where is bill gates ? do you think he can get my linux system working here ?
[05:06] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: the card *is* supported by the nvidia driver.
[05:06] <dwidmann> jim: he probably could, for your house deed
[05:06] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: what dwidmann says is that you have to install first and set up your card later
[05:06] <KrazyWolf> Ya but im having so much trouble with linux on my laptop that I don't think im going to try to put it on my desktop
[05:07] <jim> my video card doesnt work, printer wont print computer crashes... tell me why linux is better again ?
[05:07] <KrazyWolf> reading ralphies post, I don't know how to get to the grub command?
[05:07] <KrazyWolf> *grub prompt
[05:07] <dwidmann> jim: what vga and printer do you have?
[05:08] <jim> doesnt matter no one yet has been able to fix it so i just gave up
[05:08] <leo_rockw> jim: your video card company's fault, your printer company's fault
[05:08] <jim> dont forget computers fault too
[05:08] <dwidmann> jim: you need to buy your hardware with the OS you want to run in mind, and things will work *much* better for you.
[05:08] <jim> $$$
[05:08] <leo_rockw> jim: if you paid 350usd, i'm sure someone will code the drivers for you
[05:09] <jim> i can buyy a new computer for that
[05:09] <dwidmann> jim: if you bought uncompatible hardware that wouldn't work with X version of XXXX operating system, would expect it to work anyway?
[05:09] <KrazyWolf> is paying 350$ for a vga bad? lol
[05:09] <leo_rockw> jim: if not, then just deal with the fact that hardware companies don't provide specs and that people are reverse engineering all this. so complaining is of no use
[05:09] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: that's crazy, I got my 8600GT for $!00
[05:10] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I got a 8800gts 512mb G92
[05:10] <dwidmann> could do SLI with 2 of them at the measly price of $200 and probably have better performance
[05:10] <leo_rockw> my wireless card wasn't working and i didn't blame the guy that coded b43xx, i blamed broadcom
[05:10] <jim> so then what just go and buy a faster computer so that linux will be compatible
[05:10] <KrazyWolf> its not just a 8800gts 512, its a g92 model
[05:11] <leo_rockw> jim: we didn't say faster
[05:11] <leo_rockw> jim: just compatible
[05:11] <jim> ok ill go now, what do i need ?
[05:11] <leo_rockw> jim: faster and newer usually makes it worse
[05:11] <KrazyWolf> I vouch for that lol
[05:11] <jim> which video card do i need  ?
[05:11] <leo_rockw> jim: intel graphics, for starters
[05:11] <jim> ok how much are they ?
[05:12] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: that requires replacing the motherboard
[05:12] <leo_rockw> jim: do i look like the best buy geek squad?
[05:12] <jim> lol
[05:12] <dwidmann> intel graphics are cheap, integrated into the motherboard, which isn't cheap.
[05:12] <leo_rockw> jim: besides, my prices will be way off. i live in southamerica
[05:12] <KrazyWolf> I can't figure out how to fix grub!!!!
[05:12] <jim> your telling me my Hardware is not good thats why im asking what do i need to be able to have a system that will run linux
[05:13] <leo_rockw> jim: buy a dell laptop with ubuntu preinstalled for you
[05:13] <jim> i hear dell is crap
[05:13] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: jim: those work pretty well
[05:13] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: jim: I have one
[05:13] <KrazyWolf> how do i fix grub :(
[05:13] <leo_rockw> jim: i have a dell. not an ubuntu dell because those weren't available when i bought it, tho
[05:13] <KrazyWolf> I can't figure out how to get to the grub prompt!
[05:13] <jim> will this new linux system thats coming out in a week or so fix all the problems ?
[05:14] <leo_rockw> jim: yes... and it will have a brand new batch of different problems
[05:14] <KrazyWolf> lol
[05:14] <jim> lol
[05:14] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: how many hard drives do you have? Sometimes they decide to change their order at random for your personal amusement
[05:14] <jim> ok so can i just dload the beta version in apt or something
[05:14] <leo_rockw> jim: you could... but i wouldn't recommended
[05:15] <leo_rockw> jim: recommend it *
[05:15] <jim> ok what do you recomend
[05:15] <dwidmann> jim: sudo sed -i /etc/apt/sources.list -e "s/gutsy/hardy/g" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <leo_rockw> jim: what's the most immediate problem you have now?
[05:15] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I have one HD
[05:15] <jim> me
[05:15] <jim> i just want compiz to work
[05:15] <jim> thats it
[05:16]  * leo_rockw hates compiz-fusion and the youtube videos that only attract people to GNU with eye candy :-S
[05:16] <leo_rockw> jim: well, install the nvidia driver
[05:16] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: hmm, it would be absolutely lurvely if you could pastebin your hard drives partition table (ie: parted /dev/XXX print ---- or fdisk -l)
[05:16] <leo_rockw> jim: then change the resolution from the xorg.conf file
[05:16] <jim> can you tellme what to change it to ?
[05:17] <leo_rockw> jim: i could try. pastebin your xorg.conf
[05:17] <jim> ok deal
[05:17] <dwidmann> jim: if it's nvidia ----- sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:17] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann, how am i gonna do that? I can't get into the machine at all, only through the livecd
[05:17] <jim> hang on ill try leos first
[05:17] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: those commands will work from the livecd
[05:17] <leo_rockw> jim: no, try dwidmann's first
[05:18] <jim> ok
[05:18] <KrazyWolf> I see a  tut on how to fix the grub error 15, i just don't know how to get to the darn grub prompt!
[05:18] <Ketrel> There any way to get Meta+D to minimize everything?
[05:18] <leo_rockw> jim: he knows more about nvidia. i don't own one.
[05:18] <Ketrel> KrazyWolf: Did you try f3?
[05:18] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: you could bind that to "show desktop"
[05:18] <Ketrel> is that one of the available options?
[05:18] <KrazyWolf> Ketrel: f3 on what screen?
[05:19] <KrazyWolf> I can't get into kubuntu, i keep getting error 15 upon boot
[05:19] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: h/o i just switched my system to french and i'm not too good with french, lol
[05:19] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: let me change it back to spanish and i'll help you
[05:19] <Ketrel> I found it
[05:19] <Ketrel> no need
[05:19] <Ketrel> it was "toggle showing desktop"
[05:19] <leo_rockw> Ketrel: ok, cool
[05:20] <jim> ok dwindman it is trying to install the new glx thingy
[05:20] <dwidmann> jim: probably a 20mb or more download
[05:20] <KrazyWolf> :(
[05:20] <jim> 13 meg
[05:20] <andrea> :)
[05:20] <jim> i got adsl2 so its ok
[05:20] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: I do have an idea or two
[05:20] <Ketrel> How do you set an alternet shortcut, I can only see a way to set the "shortcut" field.
[05:21] <Ketrel> nevermind
[05:21] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: get to the desktop of the live cd first though
[05:21] <Ketrel> it's under advanced
[05:21] <jim> ok dwindman i have done the 2 things you asked
[05:21] <jim> what happends now ?
[05:21] <dwidmann> jim, restart X
[05:21] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay
[05:21] <jim> reboot ?
[05:21] <leo_rockw> jim: no
[05:21] <leo_rockw> jim: just restart X (the graphical interface)
[05:21] <jim> how
[05:22] <leo_rockw> jim: ctrl + alt + backspace is the fast and not pretty way
[05:22] <dwidmann> jim: to do that, log out, click on the little menu towards the bottom right of the main area (not of the whole screen), and select restart x server, the screen will flash and you should be shown the nvidia logo, then log in.
[05:23] <BluesKaj> what's the right command for making a script in etc/int.d executable ?
[05:23] <leo_rockw> BluesKaj: sudo chmod +x file
[05:23] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: chmod +x /path/to/script
[05:23] <BluesKaj>  thx
[05:24] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: you there?
[05:24] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: yea
[05:24] <KrazyWolf> Sorry I was reading about something called PCLinux, suppose to be "better" than kubuntu according to some dudes article
[05:25] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: PCLinuxOS is just like all those other distros i mentioned
[05:26] <daskreech> Hello
[05:26] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i say they are probably better for you. i don't think they are better overall
[05:26] <leo_rockw> daskreech: hello
[05:26] <dwidmann> Hey, it's daskreech
[05:26] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: im at livecd desktop
[05:26] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: from here, pull up Konsole
[05:26] <daskreech> how do I get apt to show me what files a package has installed/ will install ?
[05:27] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: now, sudo mkdir /media/kubuntu
[05:27]  * leo_rockw thinks that kubuntu should come with katapult and yakuake by default
[05:27] <leo_rockw> daskreech: that command is so useful and i can never remember it!
[05:27] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: that would rock
[05:28] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I did that
[05:28] <dwidmann> daskreech: dpkg -L somepackage
[05:28] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i wonder if it is in the brainstorm... i should make a post
[05:28] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: sounds good ...... I think katapult is in by default though
[05:28] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: is it? nice
[05:29] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: alright, now, do you know which partition your kubuntu is installed on by any chance?
[05:29] <KrazyWolf> I only have one hd
[05:29] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: I know
[05:29] <KrazyWolf> and I only have kubuntu on the HD, no other OS
[05:29] <KrazyWolf> I deleted partition and did a full install on it
[05:29] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: you still have more than one partition
[05:29] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: did you set up a swap?
[05:29] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: do you remember the device name though? ie: /dev/sda1 maybe
[05:29] <KrazyWolf> Than I guess the answer would be no lol
[05:30] <KrazyWolf> i did some weird "guide" or something like that
[05:30] <KrazyWolf> where it just did it all for you
[05:30] <Ketrel> Hmm, I've just found that my screensavers are not working right. They start as a little window off to the bottom right.
[05:30] <dwidmann> that's od
[05:30] <dwidmann> I wonder where Jim went.
[05:30] <dwidmann> I figure he should have been back by now, maybe his X borked.
[05:30] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I just went to disk and filesystems and i see that its on /dev/hda1
[05:31] <KrazyWolf> well so i figure
[05:31] <daskreech> dwidmann: thanks
[05:31] <KrazyWolf> am i looking for a swap?
[05:31] <dwidmann> daskreech: no probl
[05:31] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/kubuntu
[05:31] <KrazyWolf> cuz it says "mount point swap for partition 5
[05:31] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: shouldn't bulletproof X kick in for jim?
[05:32] <Ketrel> nevermind on my problem restarting X fixed it
[05:32] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay
[05:32] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: bulletproof x is like a person wearing a body armor and no helmet
[05:32] <ubuntu__> Ok computer crashed with those settings
[05:32] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: lol
[05:32] <dwidmann> ubuntu_: with what settings?
[05:32] <Jim> i am on the live cd now
[05:33] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I did that command
[05:33] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: sudo chroot /media/kubuntu
[05:33] <Jim> umm with what ever i was told to do
[05:33] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay
[05:33] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I believe im in root now
[05:33] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: now try to run "grub-install /dev/hda"
[05:34] <Jim> so how do i undo what i did ?
[05:34] <KrazyWolf> not found or not a block device
[05:34] <KrazyWolf> do i hae to put hda1?
[05:34] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: erm, yeah, try it with the one
[05:34] <Jim> this is driving me crazy
[05:34] <dwidmann> Jim: should be a backup of the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[05:35] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: same
[05:35] <Jim> how do i locate it and what do i do with it
[05:35] <dwidmann> Jim: reboot in recovery mode and delete the xorg.conf, then cp the backup (probably xorg.conf.blahhhhhhhhhhhhhh)  to xorg.conf to take the place of what you just deleted
[05:35] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: try grub-install (hd0,0)
[05:36] <Jim> with the cd ?
[05:36] <Jim> reboot with the cd i mean
[05:36] <dwidmann> Jim, no, take out the cd, reboot, at the grub menu, select the "Ubuntu (recovery mode)" option
[05:36] <Jim> it never shows me a menu !
[05:36] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: "bash: syntax error near unexpected t oken `hd0,0'
[05:37] <leo_rockw> Jim: the grub menu
[05:37] <Jim> whats grub menu
[05:37] <dwidmann> it might tell you to press "esc" to see the menu Jim
[05:37] <Jim> ok ill have another go
[05:37] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: put the whole command in quotes and it might work
[05:37] <KrazyWolf> command not found
[05:38] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: if not, try putting only the "(hd0,0)" in quotes
[05:38] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: (this command is pretty finicky, I hateeeeeeeeeeee it)
[05:38] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.
[05:39] <leo_rockw> perhaps it isn't hda1
[05:39] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: that's ..... odd
[05:39] <dek> I just opened VirtualBox and I get this message: "The snapshot folder of a machine with snapshots cannot be changed (please discard all snapshots first)." It worked before, how can I fix this?
[05:39] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: try (hd0,1) instead
[05:40] <dwidmann> or hd1,0
[05:40] <KrazyWolf> nope
[05:40] <KrazyWolf> sigh
[05:40] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: okay, there was one other thing that we were going to try
[05:41] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: type "grub" and press enter, it'll bring you into the grub shell
[05:41] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: remember, I am on the livecd maybe thats why? i don't know lol
[05:41] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay imn there
[05:41] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: root (hd0,0)
[05:42] <KrazyWolf> error 21: selected disk does not exist
[05:42] <dwidmann> :S
[05:42] <KrazyWolf> maybe its not hda1?
[05:43] <KrazyWolf> When looking at Disk & Filesystems, I see three things listed
[05:43] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: well, you mounted and chrooted into that disk okay ....
[05:43] <dwidmann> afaik ..... anyway
[05:43] <KrazyWolf> 1 Partition 53.6GB, 2 Partition 1.0Kb, 5 Partition 2.3Gb, The 1 partition is on device hda1, and the partition 5 which is a swaqp is on hda5
[05:44] <tuanpham> hi
[05:44] <tuanpham> i am new bee
[05:44] <tuanpham> i try to chat with some one
[05:44] <daskreech> tuanpham: Hello I'm a old bee
[05:44] <tuanpham> :)
[05:44] <dwidmann> bees, go and gather nectar.
[05:44] <daskreech> tuanpham: to chat join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <tuanpham> hi daskreech
[05:44] <daskreech> to ask for help ask here
[05:45] <daskreech> #kubuntu is for support help
[05:45] <tuanpham> yep
[05:45] <tuanpham> i see
[05:45] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: welllllllllllll, it's definitely /dev/hda1 then
[05:45] <tuanpham> thank
[05:45] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay
[05:45] <tuanpham> i tried to apt-get clamav
[05:45] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: in konqueror, navigate to /media/kubuntu  ---- what do you see
[05:45] <tuanpham> but after that
[05:46] <tuanpham> i don't see clamav in where
[05:46] <tuanpham> how can i run it ?
[05:46] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: as far as i know clamav is a console app
[05:46] <daskreech> tuanpham: how did you install it?
[05:46] <dwidmann> tuanpham: install klamav for a gui
[05:46] <tuanpham> i use apt-get install
[05:46] <tuanpham> ok thank
[05:47] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I see a bunch of folders
[05:47] <daskreech> !klamav
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: well, definitely no problem with /dev/hda1 existing then
[05:47] <leo_rockw> !info klamav
[05:47] <daskreech> !info klamav
[05:47] <tuanpham> trying installing now
[05:47] <ubotu> klamav (source: klamav): KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.41.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 735 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[05:47] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: I wonder why grub won't behave though
[05:47] <tuanpham> i see klamav now
[05:47] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: maybe the device.map is messe dup
[05:47] <daskreech> tuanpham: Enjoy!
[05:47] <tuanpham> thank a lots
[05:48] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: should i check that?
[05:48] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: i've got one better idea, in that konsole that is chrooted in, try this: ------ grub-install /dev/hda1 --root-directory=/boot --recheck
[05:48] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: under device.map, it says (hd0) /dev/hda
[05:49] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: how do i go back to that konsole, because im in the grub screen and not the one with the chrooted thing
[05:49] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: type quit
[05:49] <KrazyWolf> oh okay i just typed quit
[05:49] <KrazyWolf> let me try
[05:50] <KrazyWolf> "Probing decives to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device."
[05:50] <godkas> errr whys xorgconfig not workin 0_0
[05:50] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: hmm, try using (hd0,0) again, it may work here
[05:51] <tuanpham> i tried to setting up window media player 9 in kubuntu 7.10
[05:51] <tuanpham> i used overcross
[05:51] <KrazyWolf> where do i put that into dwidmann? the hd0,0 thing
[05:51] <tuanpham> but it can't runt
[05:52] <tuanpham> u downloaded wmp9 form microsoft
[05:52] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: in the same command as the previous one that failed, but use (hd0,0) instead of /dev/hda1
[05:52] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: its giving me that syntax error again
[05:52] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: put the "(hd0,0" in quotes (like that)
[05:53] <dwidmann> except don't forget the closing paren like I did ...
[05:53] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: you used crossover, you mean
[05:53] <tuanpham> yes
[05:53] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: why use wmp anyway?
[05:53] <tuanpham> some mediaprogram can't play wma
[05:53] <KrazyWolf> same
[05:53] <tuanpham> wmv
[05:53] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: vlc does
[05:54] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: and all the other programs if you install the codecs
[05:54] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: hmm, maybe it will take it if you remove the parens
[05:54] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I'm putting "grub-install "(hd0,0)" --root-directory=/boot --recheck"
[05:54] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: nope :(
[05:54] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-222144.html
[05:54] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: what error this time?
[05:55] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.
[05:55] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: by all means, give anything they suggested a try
[05:56] <Heavy_D> hi everyone
[05:56] <tuanpham> thank you
[05:56] <godkas> i just installed ati proprietary drivers and xorgconfig isnt working. am i forgetting something?
[05:56] <daskreech> tuanpham: welkome
[05:56] <tuanpham> did any body try use kubuntu 8 beta ?
[05:56] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: in that link the ultimate solution was to reinstall
[05:57] <tuanpham> i tried first time
[05:57] <leo_rockw> hey Heavy_D
[05:57] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: i'm using hardy
[05:57] <tuanpham> but it's hard to use with newbe :)
[05:57] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: grub can be really hard to fix sometimes, sometimes reinstalling _is_ the appropriate solution.
[05:57] <Heavy_D> ok, I'm feeling pretty stupid right now.  I've got kubuntu 8.04 beta installed using KDE 4, I'm really liking it, but I can't seem to figure out how to add an application launcher to the desktop
[05:57] <leo_rockw> godkas: did you do aticonfig --initial?
[05:57] <tuanpham> i's nice with ui and kde 4
[05:57] <leo_rockw> Heavy_D: drag and drop
[05:58] <tuanpham> but i have to work with my pc
[05:58] <leo_rockw> Heavy_D: oh, wait... aplication launcher...
[05:58] <tuanpham> then i have configuation alot :(
[05:58] <Heavy_D> I don't have the launcher in the menu either
[05:58] <leo_rockw> Heavy_D: well, drag and drop may work. if not try #kubuntu-kde4
[05:58] <Heavy_D> k, i'll check over there, thanks
[05:58] <leo_rockw> np
[05:58] <tuanpham> to leo_rockw did you still use this ?
[05:58] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: yes. but kde 3.5.9
[05:59] <tuanpham> leo_rockw: it has no tool for user manage in ui
[05:59] <roman> is there a release date for 8 yet?
[05:59] <tuanpham> and i can't seting up any other
[05:59] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: kde4 still needs a lot of development
[05:59] <leo_rockw> roman: 24th
[05:59] <tuanpham> yep i know
[06:00] <roman> thanx
[06:00] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: i have it installed and i check it every once in a while
[06:00] <leo_rockw> roman: np
[06:00] <roman> is kde4 installation for 7 through package manager?
[06:00] <tuanpham> roman: it has about 7 days to come to release of kubuntu 8
[06:00] <leo_rockw> roman: yes, but you need to add repos
[06:00] <tuanpham> yes
[06:00] <KrazyWolf> sigh
[06:01] <roman> ill just wait till it comes then :)
[06:01] <tuanpham> i think so
[06:01] <tuanpham> just a question
[06:01] <leo_rockw> roman: don't expect something great. it's still being developed.
[06:01] <roman> but it will have all functions of 7?
[06:01] <tuanpham> does it have any tool like IDM  ?
[06:02] <leo_rockw> roman: i mean kde4, not kubuntu 8.04
[06:02] <roman> ive just installed the beta, but network settings is not working
[06:02] <godkas> leo_rockw: Data incomplete in file xorg.conf  Undefined Device "Generic Video Card" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[06:02] <KrazyWolf> Why isn't it finding my damn device!
[06:03] <leo_rockw> godkas: you might want to take a look at xorg.conf and edit manually
[06:03] <godkas> :/ i was afraid of that
[06:03] <tuanpham> http://www.kde-apps.org
[06:03] <tuanpham> that good for find app for kde
[06:04] <godkas> other than this kubuntu roxx so far :D
[06:04] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: I wish I knew
[06:05] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: this page might have some useful (though seemingly unrelated) info
[06:05] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntu AfterInstallingWindows#head-bf0ad184b84304b51996a11111a1901667529a80
[06:05] <leo_rockw> godkas: ati is a pain
[06:06] <godkas> leo_rockw: my xorg is really strange.. the one on my slackware looked almost completely different >_<
[06:06] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: Thanks for trying dwidmann, appreciate it :)
[06:06] <dwidmann> gah
[06:06] <leo_rockw> godkas: kubuntu's xorg is full of bloat
[06:06] <tuanpham> i am going to have lunh
[06:06] <godkas> leo_rockw: Oh I know.. i dont understand them.. good cards bad support
[06:06] <tuanpham> se you all
[06:06] <tuanpham> :P
[06:06] <leo_rockw> godkas: exactly
[06:07] <leo_rockw> godkas: hopefully the new free driver will change that. amd is doing a good job with ati
[06:07] <KrazyWolf> is konsole the same as a terminal?
[06:08] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: it's not exactly the same, but close enough
[06:08] <presto1> im using ununtu hardy and want to try the kubuntu kde 4 setup all i need is the kde kubuntu metapackage right??
[06:08] <presto1> oops ubuntu
[06:09] <KrazyWolf> how do i get a terminal?
[06:09] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ctrl + alt + F1
[06:09] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: ctrl + alt + F7 to come back
[06:09] <NullName> KrazyWolf: Konsole and terminal are pretty much the same thing
[06:09] <KrazyWolf> i did a find /boot/grub/stage1 in the grub menu and it came back as (hd0,0)
[06:09] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: for what you're trying to do konsole and terminal are the same
[06:10] <godkas> leo_rockw: Any release date?
[06:10] <leo_rockw> godkas: not that i know of
[06:11] <presto1> anyone know?
[06:12] <Jucato> presto1: instructions are in the topic of #kubuntu-kde4
[06:12] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw, if my mbr or whatever is screwed, does that mean I can't even do a fresh install of kubuntu?
[06:12] <presto1> got it jucato
[06:12] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: konsole is a terminal emulator
[06:12] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: i'm guessing the freshinstall of kubuntu will get rid of what's on your mbr now and install a new grub
[06:12] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: fresh install usually fixes things with any luck
[06:13] <KrazyWolf> leo_rockw: thats what I asked like 2 hours ago and you said a fresh install wouldn't fix the mbr!
[06:13] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: you hadn't told me what the problem was yet
[06:13] <leo_rockw> KrazyWolf: a fresh install does not necesarily fix a mbr
[06:13] <console_jockey> I have just bought a nokia 6068 phone and can connect to it with kbluetooth.  I've been able to send a file to it via OBEX Object Push client, but for some reason I can not download/copy any of the files already on the device to my pc.  In dolphin and konqueror there is a graphic lock icon in the file name and I get a read error when trying to open or move files.
[06:14] <console_jockey> Is there something I'm missing?  I've tried to change permissions on the file in question, but I get a message that permissions aren't supported by OBEX.
[06:14] <console_jockey> Anyone with any bluetooth experience what to give me a some ideas?
[06:14] <dwidmann> console_jockey: maybe if you were to do this as root it would work?
[06:14] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: it worked! the link you gave me
[06:15] <KrazyWolf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:15] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: sweet stuff
[06:15] <KrazyWolf> but when I press ctrl alt f7 to come back, it keeps flickering!
[06:15] <ixnayonthehombre> i have a problem with adept if anyone would be able to help
[06:15] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: I think I know what I was doing wrong
[06:15] <console_jockey> dwidmann: I thought of that so I ran kdesu konqueror thinking that maybe it would run konqueror as root.  Maybe I'm mistaken.  I don't generally log onto my machine as root, though I suppose I could give that a trie...
[06:15] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: my screen is flickering nonstop
[06:15] <dwidmann> I forgot to have you bind /dev/ and /proc before chrooting in
[06:15] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I'm trying to do ctrl alt f7 to come back and its flickering like hell
[06:15] <console_jockey> !ask
[06:15] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:16] <ixnayonthehombre> kk
[06:16] <ixnayonthehombre> sry
[06:16] <leo_rockw> console_jockey: kdesu konqueror runs konqueror with root privileges
[06:16] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: not all cards support switching between vts and x sessions very well, ati cards are notoriously bad
[06:16] <foibles> is there anyway to get e17 unto ubuntu?
[06:16] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: kdesudo > kdesu
[06:16] <console_jockey> leo_rockw: that's what I thought.  However, that did not give me permission to read the files from my device.
[06:16] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: depends on the kubuntu version
[06:17] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: what are the hotkeys to restart? ctrl alt del... and than what?
[06:17] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: kdesudo doesn't work in feisty afaik
[06:17] <KrazyWolf> because its flickering like hell
[06:17] <Jucato> it would be better to use "kdesu" since it will work whether or not kdesudo is installed
[06:17] <ixnayonthehombre> i was trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras in adept... then it said there was a break and there was something wrong and closed adept. Now when i try to install something i can request install but not apply changes
[06:17] <Jucato> if kdesudo is installed, it is symlinked to kdesu
[06:17]  * console_jockey running gutsy
[06:17] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: for gutsy and hardy it's kdesudo, for previous versions its kdesu, kdesu is still there in gutsy and hardy, - however, kdesu has never been very reliable and kdesudo is
[06:17] <Jucato> ixnayonthehombre: unless you're running Ubuntu, you probably want kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:18] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2008-03-28 13:30 kdesu -> kdesudo
[06:18] <ixnayonthehombre> there is no kubuntu one
[06:18] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: sweeeeeeeeeeeet
[06:18] <ixnayonthehombre> but thats not the problem at the moment.... i cant apply changes to any of my requests to install
[06:18] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: so kdesu will always work no matter waht
[06:18] <KrazyWolf> alright im rebooting
[06:18] <KrazyWolf> to see if it loads
[06:18] <KrazyWolf> nope
[06:18] <KrazyWolf> Didn't work
[06:18] <Jucato> didn't I just say that about kdesu? :P
[06:18] <leo_rockw> Jucato: ^_^
[06:19] <dwidmann> Jucato: I musn't have been listening o.O
[06:19] <Jucato> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | ixnayonthehombre
[06:19] <ubotu> ixnayonthehombre: kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[06:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: or not reading :P
[06:19] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: It didn't work :(
[06:19] <dwidmann> Jucato: reading what
[06:19] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I'm still getting error 15
[06:19] <Jucato> ixnayonthehombre: try installing from Konsole, using sudo apt-get install. It will give you error messages
 if kdesudo is installed, it is symlinked to kdesu ---> i read you Jucato, that's why i copy pasted the symlink
[06:19] <Jucato> dwidmann: what I typed :)
[06:20] <Jucato> dwidmann: technically, I'm not speaking. so there's nothing to listen to :P
[06:20] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: you did both the grub-install and grub; root (hd0,0); setup?
[06:20] <console_jockey> well, I've tried again with kdesu konqueror and verified that I did indeed have root access.  However, attempting to copy a file from the device ive me "Could not read xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" where xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx is device address.
[06:20] <dwidmann> Jucato: there is some truth in that
[06:20] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I followed this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-7fb1c88570b006aa14b7daaef2238b432b7f73c8
[06:20] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: steps 1-5
[06:21] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: supposably after step 5 it was suppose to be fixed
[06:22] <leo_rockw> who was asking about ubuntu and e17?
[06:22] <leo_rockw> foibles: there was ebuntu
[06:22] <Jucato> leo_rockw: foibles
[06:22] <foibles> leo_rockw, oh?
[06:22] <leo_rockw> foibles: idk if it still exists, or if the project changed names
[06:23] <foibles> leo_rockw, ive tried elive
[06:23] <console_jockey> bah, even kget fails.  I'd really like to know how to access OBEX via CLI
[06:23] <foibles> but ubuntu is more solid and i just want to self configure e17
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, OpenGEU
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's pretty decent, actually
[06:23] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: hmm, where are these steps at on there?
[06:23] <tehk> I have a friend asking me where he can activate the compose key from in 7.10, anyone have any idea? I only have a CLI in front of me
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> you can just set up the repos in an existing install of gutsy and install opengeu-desktop
[06:23] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i thought it had changed its name. i didn't know what the new name was, tho. thanks
[06:24] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:24] <KrazyWolf> grub> root (hd0,1) #Hit the <Enter> key
[06:24] <KrazyWolf> grub> setup (hd0) #Hit <Enter> key
[06:24] <KrazyWolf> grub> quit #Hit <Enter> key, quits grub
[06:24] <KrazyWolf> whoops, sorry
[06:24] <ixnayonthehombre> ok when i did it in Konsole it says that "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[06:24] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: and none of those threw any errors?
[06:24] <leo_rockw> ixnayonthehombre: then run dpkg --configure -a
[06:25] <ixnayonthehombre> kk thats what i thought... ty
[06:25] <leo_rockw> ixnayonthehombre: after that try again
[06:25] <Daisuke_Ido> has the version of amarok in the repos been updated to 1.4.9.1?
[06:25] <dwidmann> yes
[06:26] <dwidmann> Any major fixes in it?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still getting 1.4.8
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> fixes the amazon problem
[06:26] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: hmm, it's 1.4.9.1 in hardy anyhow
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> hardy, yes
[06:26] <dwidmann> "the amazon problem"?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> not using hardy here :)
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> the amazon problem
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> they changed their api, i believe
[06:27] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: no, I got a "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists.... yes    Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes   Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists yes  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 *hd0)'... 17 sectors are embedded.   Succeeded   Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,0)/bootgrub/stage2/boot/grub/menu.list"...succeeded Done."
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> and with any amarok verison pre-1.4.9.1 album cover fetching no longer works
[06:27] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: the covers recovery feature from amazon wasn't working because amazon changed their apis
[06:27] <ixnayonthehombre> ok i can now apply changes when i request install... ty
[06:27] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: ah
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> also a problem with exaile
[06:27] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: so that's why it wasn't working yesterday
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i just said that!
[06:28]  * dwidmann doesn't care about exaile
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> no, but it's still an issue
[06:28] <leo_rockw> the amarok team called it the "we still love you release"
[06:28] <dwidmann> hahaha
[06:28] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: you get all that?
[06:28] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: yeah, looks like it took it okay
[06:28] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: ya i don't know, i just tried it again and rebooted, same crap
[06:29] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: that's basically what I wanted you to do. ..... and it failed to help :(
[06:29] <foibles> does anyone know how to add startup programs to e16?
[06:29] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I give up :(
[06:29] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: I guess linux isn't made for me
[06:29] <leo_rockw> foibles: i'm pretty sure we all use kde here :-P
[06:29] <foibles> leo_rockw, tish
[06:29] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: one last thing to check
[06:30] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: there is at least one die-hard terminal user in our midst iirc
[06:30] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: ?
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't use kde
[06:30] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i love the terminal too
[06:30] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: do you use e16, tho?
[06:31] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: I was referring to stdin, really
[06:31] <ixnayonthehombre> ok now i'm tryin to find kubuntu-restricted-extras but its telling me that it can't find that package.
[06:31] <leo_rockw> ixnayonthehombre: apt-cache search restricted | grep kubuntu
[06:31] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: fire up the live cd, open konsole, in it run "sudo parted /dev/hda"
[06:31] <godkas> leo_rockw: this is weird man i cant open ati control panel and theres still a ati driver in the restricted drivers (this didnt happen on slackware :P)
[06:31] <KrazyWolf> Okay
[06:32] <leo_rockw> godkas: i would tell you slackware is better... but i don't think this is the right channel to do so
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, no, i use gnome
[06:32] <dwidmann> :O
[06:32] <leo_rockw> ¬¬
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, yes, burn the heretic
[06:33]  * dwidmann gets the fire
[06:33] <leo_rockw> this gives the term flamewar a whole new meaning
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> but what i'm using looks nothing like a default ubuntu install, if that helps
[06:34] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: my desktop has gnome now, i think my mom likes it better
[06:35] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: you there?
[06:35] <KrazyWolf> just got there
[06:36] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay i did that cmd
[06:36] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: kay, now type "print"
[06:36] <godkas> lol i miss my root
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> my fiancee is using a basic gnome desktop, i've got my desktop machine set up with AWN (which once you start playing with applets, works really well
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> )
[06:36] <godkas> darn sudo
[06:36] <leo_rockw> godkas: hahaha, that happened to me a lot
[06:36] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: okay
[06:36] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: do any of the lines have the "boot" flag on?
[06:36] <leo_rockw> godkas: particularly since i still use slax
[06:37] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: yes
[06:37] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: only one right?
[06:37] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: yup
[06:37] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: you wouldn't believe how much that little tiny detail right there could cause a person, it took me two days to catch that a couple weeks ago :(
[06:38] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: so what does that mean?
[06:38] <godkas> leo_rockw: hmm well im really not sure whats missing i used (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) to write a new xorg.conf
[06:38] <leo_rockw> godkas: sometimes i try to sudo things in slax
[06:38] <godkas> lol
[06:39] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: means it isn't your fix :(
[06:39] <godkas> leo_rockw: Slax is like 0_o what did you call me?
[06:39] <leo_rockw> godkas: usually sudo aticonfig --initial should do the trick
[06:39] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: so am I going to be able to go back to windows without a problem ?
[06:39] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: Or is this computer f'd now?
[06:39] <godkas> its not tho
[06:39] <ixnayonthehombre> absolutely nothing happens when i do apt-cache search restricte |grep kubuntu
[06:40] <godkas> leo_rockw: Found fglrx primary device section Nothing to do, terminating.
[06:40] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: well, I suppose you could, I would try a reinstall first though - if you had anyt other issues than this (which I presume you do), you should have a rough idea what you need to do to fix them so it should be much faster the second trip around.
[06:40] <leo_rockw> ixnayonthehombre: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[06:40] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: Alright, off to bed for me, its almost 2 am
[06:40] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: If you ever decide to get a new comp do your research on the hardware and try out kubuntu again :)
[06:41] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: Thank you for all the help buddy, I appreciate it, imma give kubuntu one more go tomorrow morning and thats it lol, than i might go like pclinux or mint or one of those out of the box things
[06:42] <dwidmann> KrazyWolf: best of luck
[06:42] <KrazyWolf> dwidmann: See ya tomorrow, thanks again
[06:42] <dwidmann> you're welcome, see ya later
[06:44] <ixnayonthehombre> 2.6
[06:46] <foibles> anyone here tried gOS yet?
[06:47] <dwidmann> gOS??? what's that?
[06:48] <foibles> oh the sarcasm
[06:49] <fitoria> hello
[06:49] <dwidmann> people often can't tell if I'm being sarcastic or serious, but I'll give you the answer, I was actually being _serious_
[06:49] <dwidmann> hi
[06:49] <fitoria> I have Kubuntu 7.10 AMD 64bits installed but I cant play dvds what can I do?
[06:49] <godkas> -.- im doing a dist upgrade
[06:49] <leo_rockw> foibles: i haven't tried enlightment since i was a teenager
[06:50] <leo_rockw> foibles: i remember liking it a lot back when
[06:50] <leo_rockw> fitoria: if you like vlc you can use vlc
[06:50] <fitoria> but in Kaffeine?
[06:51] <leo_rockw> fitoria: if not you'll need the libdvdcss library
[06:51] <fitoria> ok
[06:51] <karl_> vlc needs libdvdcss too
[06:51] <karl_> it doesn't just come with it
[06:51] <karl_> you need to install it either way.
[06:51] <leo_rockw> karl_: oh, i thought it did
[06:51] <karl_> nope
[06:51] <karl_> it'll just give you a funky error
[06:51] <leo_rockw> karl_: i didn't like vlc anyway
[06:51] <leo_rockw> :-P
[06:51] <karl_> i like it : )
[06:51] <karl_> it has neato features
[06:51] <bennyf11> hey i keep getting a disk check error when installing
[06:51] <fitoria> it says that libdvdcss is not avaliable
[06:52] <karl_> its libdvdcss2
[06:52] <leo_rockw> karl_: i tried the new beta version, it looks sexy :-D
[06:52] <fitoria> libdvdcss2 too
[06:52] <fitoria> :(
[06:52] <karl_> you need to turn on universe repositories
[06:52] <karl_> or metaverse
[06:52] <fitoria> ok
[06:52] <karl_> i don't remember which
[06:52] <leo_rockw> isn't libdvdcss2 in medibuntu?
[06:52] <karl_> probably, i don't know
[06:53] <leo_rockw> "This is in Medibuntu as it violates patents."
[06:53] <leo_rockw> yup
[06:53] <Avastez> Hey all, are the new features of ubuntu like better xorg configuration also part of kubuntus 8.04?
[06:53] <karl_> Avastez: they will do it differently
[06:53] <fitoria> i have multiverse repo active
[06:53] <fitoria> already
[06:53] <fitoria> but I cant install libdbdcss
[06:53] <fitoria> libdvdcss*
[06:53] <leo_rockw> fitoria: you need medibuntu
[06:53] <fitoria> ok
[06:53] <karl_> get libdvdread3
[06:54] <karl_> you don't need medibuntu.
[06:54] <fitoria> installing libdvdread3......
[06:54] <fitoria> installed :D
[06:54] <karl_> you'll have to close and open kaffeine afterwards
[06:54] <fitoria> lets try
[06:54] <karl_> all instances of kaffeine
[06:54] <fitoria> ok
[06:55] <dek> if I install KDE4 will all the menus be filled with the old KDE3 programs?
[06:55] <karl_> i'm fairly certain it autofills them, yes
[06:55] <fitoria> It doesnt works :(
[06:56] <leo_rockw> dek: yes
[06:56] <karl_> then get medibuntu
[06:56] <karl_> whatever that is
[06:56] <leo_rockw> dek: and kde3 menues with kde4 programs too
[06:56] <karl_> drms a beyotch
[06:56] <dek> leo_rockw: any way to avoid that?
[06:56] <dek> leo_rockw: or only uninstalling kde3? :P
[06:56] <leo_rockw> dek: idk, i actually like that
[06:57] <dek> leo
[06:57] <leo_rockw> dek: there are some apps that are still not available for kde4
[06:57] <fitoria> karl_: Kaffeine still doesnt play dvd
[06:57] <dek> but what happens if i execute a KDE4 program in KDE3?
[06:57] <leo_rockw> fitoria: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[06:57] <leo_rockw> dek: it works
[06:57] <dek> I dont think it will run
[06:57] <dek> really?
[06:57] <fitoria> ok
[06:57] <leo_rockw> dek: yup
[06:57] <fitoria> add the repo
[06:57] <leo_rockw> fitoria: yup
[06:57] <leo_rockw> fitoria: i'm guessing you're using gutsy
[06:58] <dek> leo_rockw: so you recommend me to try KDE4? :)
[06:58] <karl_> anyone know if 8.04 kubuntu is being released the same day as ubuntu?
[06:58] <leo_rockw> dek: to try, yes. to use it daily... i wouldn't go that far.
[06:58] <leo_rockw> karl_: i don't see why not
[06:58] <dek> leo_rockw: why not?
[06:58] <leo_rockw> dek: it's not as functional and complete as 3.5 yet
[06:58] <fitoria> leo_rockw: gutsy
[06:58] <leo_rockw> dek: give it time. kde4.2 will be awesome
[06:58] <karl_> dek: its in development
[06:58] <dek> leo_rockw: but if KDE3 apps work, that shouldn't be a problem, is it?
[06:59] <fitoria> leo_rockw: gpg problem :S
[06:59] <leo_rockw> fitoria: then just add the repo and apt-get update
[06:59] <fitoria> do you have the gpg of that repo?
[06:59] <leo_rockw> fitoria: there is one, i don't have it. check in google
[06:59] <karl_> if you google search it comes up
[06:59] <fitoria> i found it on the repo server
[06:59] <karl_> and probably a guide for exactly what you're doing
[06:59] <fitoria> how do i add it?
[07:00] <karl_> gooogle
[07:00] <leo_rockw> dek: well, no, it shouldn't.
[07:00] <fitoria> ok
[07:00] <leo_rockw> dek: but i don't like the new menu bar. and you can just kill that, that kills all the desktop background too.
[07:01] <karl_> leo_rockw: just don't update kicker?
[07:01] <leo_rockw> dek: and you can't just hide it and put kicker instead, because the bar doesn't have a hide option yet
[07:01] <karl_> ah
[07:01] <fitoria> adding gpg....
[07:01] <leo_rockw> karl_: kicker doesn't exist anymore in kde4
[07:01] <dek> leo_rockw: lol ok :P
[07:01] <karl_> things be achangin'
[07:01] <leo_rockw> indeed
[07:02] <fitoria> installed libdvdcss2
[07:02] <leo_rockw> fitoria: what you did is illegal in the US!
[07:02] <fitoria> jejej I am not at us
[07:02] <karl_> tsk tsk
[07:02] <fitoria> so i dont care
[07:02] <leo_rockw> fitoria: good, i'm not there either
[07:02] <fitoria> so what is next?
[07:03] <leo_rockw> fitoria: try to play a dvd now
[07:03] <fitoria> nothing :(
[07:03] <karl_> Adolfo, it's probably not so great to put your full name in your client
[07:03] <karl_> ni is nipal?
[07:03] <karl_> no
[07:03] <karl_> nepal
[07:03] <karl_> nigeria?
[07:03] <fitoria> found at google
[07:04] <fitoria> karl_: ni is nicaragua
[07:04] <karl_> ah
[07:04] <karl_> what kind of internet connection speed you get in nicaragua?
[07:04]  * ScorpKing waves around..
[07:04] <fitoria> i have 512kbs
[07:05] <ScorpKing> what is the shortcut key to switch desktops?
[07:05] <karl_> ALT+FKEY
[07:05] <leo_rockw> fitoria: did you restart kaffeine?
[07:05] <fitoria> yes
[07:05] <karl_> or you can CTRL+SHIFT+TAB
[07:05]  * leo_rockw hates kaffeine!lol
[07:06] <ScorpKing> karl_: i must be doing something wrong. still cant get to desktop 2
[07:06] <karl_> it's possible desktop two doesn't exist
[07:07] <ScorpKing> karl_: it does. i'm on the livecd
[07:07] <leo_rockw> i customized my desktop shortcuts... so i can't help there
[07:07] <karl_> try ctrl+fkey?
[07:07] <karl_> i'm not quite certain; i use fluxbox
[07:07] <ScorpKing> karl_: as in <ctrl>+<f> ?
[07:07] <karl_> as in, CTRL+F2
[07:08] <ScorpKing> karl_: thats the run shortcut
[07:08] <karl_> or ALT+F2, which is more likely
[07:08] <leo_rockw> alt+f2 is the run shortcut indeed
[07:08] <ScorpKing> karl_: hehe :D blond moment
[07:08] <ScorpKing> karl_: it's working. thanks
[07:08] <user__> alt+f5
[07:08] <dwidmann> now to see how fast nfs will go over gigabit ethernet :)
[07:08] <karl_> anytime
[07:08] <leo_rockw> fitoria: did you make it work?
[07:08] <ScorpKing> hiya dwidmann :)
[07:09] <karl_> dwidmann: depends on the speed of your drives, i think
[07:09] <dwidmann> hey there scorpking
[07:09] <dwidmann> karl_: more or less
[07:09] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: i get about 7.8MB/s on 100 network with nfs
[07:09] <fitoria> leo_rockw: nop :(
[07:10] <dwidmann> It's pretty jumpy seeing as the other computer isn't nearly as fast, but it's varying wildly between about 8MB/s and 26MB/s
[07:10] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: it would be nice to know the speed on gigabit tho. let me know ;)
[07:10] <ScorpKing> ah nice
[07:11] <dwidmann> (belieeeeeeve me, this computer can serve it out a lot faster than the other computer can take it in hehe)
[07:11] <dwidmann> Wow, just saw a little peak of 30MB/s, wish it would hold steady
[07:11] <leo_rockw> fitoria: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-52993.html
[07:12] <dwidmann> Keeps stalling :(
[07:12] <fitoria> mmmm
[07:12] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: that's bout the speed of an ide disk. 24MB/s actually
[07:12] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: which is what the other computer has in it .. this comp has a 750GB SATA though
[07:13] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: ah ok. it won't go over 30 then.
[07:14] <karl_> ScorpKing: i don't think you can spin your disc that fast, anyways
[07:14] <dwidmann> I wonder why it doesn't even hold steady on the big files though, its strange
[07:14] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: well. it will show 30 and then stall for a few secs to write the data ;). i still want to set something like that up for myself
[07:15] <ScorpKing> maybe its the caching system
[07:15] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: gigabit ethernet? get yourself a gigabit switch and some cheap cat-6 cable.
[07:16] <fitoria> got to go
[07:16] <fitoria> thanks for your help
[07:16] <karl_> and a gigabit nic
[07:16] <karl_> two of them
[07:16] <dwidmann> ah yes, that too, if you don't aleady have those
[07:16] <fitoria> I'll keep trying tomorrow
[07:16] <fitoria> bye
[07:16] <ScorpKing> karl_: true.. so it will be 24MB/s max then
[07:16] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: yip. i'll get it sometime. have other things to buy now. :)
[07:17] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: and some big, SATA drives so you can pull out the full potential.
[07:17] <ScorpKing> take care guys. its back to work for me. have fun
[07:17] <dwidmann> will try
[07:18] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: will do :)
[07:18] <dwidmann> you too 'kay?
[07:20] <dwidmann> Looks like realistically speaking it's averaging about 18MB/s
[07:23] <karl_> you could raid 10 them and get faster performance
[07:26] <dwidmann> karl, sure, if I had money.
[07:26] <tuanpham> what about the money ? ;)
[07:26] <dwidmann> tuanpham: what, you want to give me some? :D
[07:27] <dwidmann> my dream idea would be to build an nfs server with 4x1TB drives and a pci-e raid card, but where would I ever get the money to do that? :(
[07:28] <karl_> you could turn tricks in the evening
[07:28] <karl_> that's what i did
[07:29] <dwidmann> ooooookayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:29] <karl_> : D
[07:32] <tuanpham> i am back
[07:32] <tuanpham> does anyone know
[07:33] <tuanpham> the tool to metter templature of cpu and hdd ?
[07:33] <tuanpham> my pc gets hot after some program run
[07:33] <dwidmann> tuanpham: lm-sensors for cpu & others, hddtemp for hard drives
[07:35] <tuanpham> thank dwidmann
[07:36] <dwidmann> I think for cpu only coretemp will work for some cpu's
[07:36] <tuanpham> maybe i have problem with my cooler
[07:37] <tuanpham> when i run windows vista i used everets
[07:37] <tuanpham> and count it about 80 -85 digree cecus
[07:37] <dwidmann> :O
[07:37] <dwidmann> whoa, that's hot
[07:37] <dwidmann> wayyyyyyyyy hot
[07:37] <tuanpham> i know my cpu can stand only maximum 100
[07:37] <tuanpham> i don't know
[07:38] <tuanpham> core 2 dua 1.83
[07:38] <dwidmann> normal would be more like maybe 40-50 under load
[07:38] <tuanpham> yes
[07:38] <tuanpham> i looking for this problem on internet
[07:38] <tuanpham> and know that
[07:38] <tuanpham> maybe i will try to replace new cooler
[07:39] <dwidmann> Mine has been acting really, really screwy. It's reading way out of whack ..... it's saying 60C on a cold boot, which is practically impossible. (it can't heat up that fast, especially not with this beastly HSF on it), maybe yours is behaving oddly too?
[07:40] <tuanpham> i am not good at english
[07:41] <tuanpham> can you explane clearer ?
[07:41] <dwidmann> Then again, not worth chancing melting the CPU, you should check that your heatsink fan is making good contact before doing anything else I think.
[07:41] <tuanpham> i see
[07:41] <tuanpham> i tried to go to bios setting up
[07:41] <tuanpham> but it have no configuation for it
[07:42] <tuanpham> i use pavilion 2000 laptop
[07:42] <dwidmann> Hmmmmm
[07:42] <dwidmann> Does it get really hot when you're using it? Like, hot enough to almost burn you?
[07:42] <tuanpham> :)
[07:42] <tuanpham> when i run many programs
[07:43] <thanasi> tuanpham: get a bigger fan
[07:43] <dwidmann> probably not a good thing, though a portable heater is always nice to have
[07:43] <tuanpham> maybe
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> well, since the devs aren't going to show us users of the "old" stuff any love, i'd better figure out how to get amarok compiled as a package
[07:43] <flibbertygibbit> what package contains mount.cifs ?
[07:43] <tuanpham> in some case
[07:44] <tuanpham> i mind come from virus ?
[07:44] <tuanpham> i think my vista os have somes
[07:44] <tuanpham> because it has never like this before
[07:44] <dwidmann> flibbertygibbit: maybe smbclient?
[07:44] <tuanpham> before  it 's only 60 - 65 0C
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> which is still high
[07:45] <tuanpham> yep
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> 40 is the max i've ever pushed this one
[07:45] <tuanpham> it happens when i bought mine
[07:45] <flibbertygibbit> dwidmann: appariently that's already installed
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !compiling
[07:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[07:46] <dwidmann> flibbertygibbit: smbfs maybe?
[07:47] <tuanpham> how can i run lm-sensers ?
[07:47] <tuanpham> just installed
[07:47] <flibbertygibbit> dwidmann: yep that's the one, thanks
[07:47] <dwidmann> tuanpham: first you have to "sudo sensors-detect" I think, then "sudo sensors"
[07:48] <tuanpham> it run
[07:48] <tuanpham> but it have no us app ?
[07:49] <tuanpham> but it have no ui app ?
[07:49] <dwidmann> tuanpham: lets see if it works first, then I'll tell you the gui :P
[07:49] <tuanpham> yep
[07:50] <tuanpham> i have give answer YES somes
[07:50] <tuanpham> and enter some more
[07:50] <dwidmann> tuanpham: yeah, but after all the yes's and such, does it find any sensors?
[07:51] <tuanpham> #----cut here----
[07:51] <tuanpham> # Chip drivers
[07:51] <tuanpham> coretemp
[07:51] <tuanpham> #----cut here--
[07:51] <tuanpham> is that true ?
[07:51] <dwidmann> That sounds good
[07:51] <tuanpham> Intel Core family thermal sensor...                         Success!
[07:52] <dwidmann> you should have said yes and let it to it by itself, so you'll need to cut and paste that into /etc/modules
[07:52] <dwidmann> tuanpham: now run "sensors" in the terminal
[07:52] <tuanpham> No sensors found!
[07:52] <tuanpham> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
[07:52] <tuanpham> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are
[07:53] <tuanpham> it saids that :)
[07:53] <tuanpham> maybe installed not correct
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> dwidmann, checkinstall --install=no rather than sudo make install is preferred, right?
[07:53] <eagles0513875> i have no idea how this person i know managed to tweak his acpi setting to give him 3 hrs battery life on his laptop
[07:53] <tuanpham> a minute
[07:54] <tuanpham> i have to edit module in ect
[07:54] <thanasi> eagles0513875: that sounds like something i want to do ;)
[07:55] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: well, Iono, checkinstall isn't perfect but at least it makes a ruidementary package .... seems a lot of people don't like checkinstall for some reason or another
[07:55] <tuanpham> i have it in my module file
[07:55] <eagles0513875> thanasi: took him 4 months to get it right though i wanna do it and i would love to pkg it so that everyone can benefit from it
[07:55] <dwidmann> tuanpham: what does it ouptut when you run the "sensors" command?
[07:56] <tuanpham> # Generated by sensors-detect on Wed Apr 16 13:49:44 2008
[07:56] <tuanpham> # Chip drivers
[07:56] <tuanpham> coretemp
[07:56] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: http://tjr.homeip.net/~tim/amarok/
[07:56] <tuanpham> No sensors found!
[07:56] <tuanpham> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
[07:56] <tuanpham> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
[07:56] <tuanpham> that ansers form pc
[07:56] <thanasi> eagles0513875: i have 4 months ;)
[07:57] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, 1.4.7 doesn't help, i already have 1.4.8, i need 1.4.9
[07:57] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: check the date
[07:57] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: in the forums they say those work
[07:57] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4709752
[07:57] <eagles0513875> thanasi: im goign to start working on it and maybe have something to upload to motu for revu sometime this summer
[07:58] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i think he merged 1.4.7 with the svn patch
[07:59] <thanasi> eagles0513875: sweet :)
[08:00] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: "For users of Kubuntu 7.10, packages are in gutsy-backports available from Adept Manager when you choose Unsupported Updates from the Updates tab of Manage Repositories."
[08:00] <harmental> yesterday i was embarassed by some strange behavior in kubuntu....
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, if only
[08:01] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: still not there, huh?
[08:01] <harmental> after plugging a projector and reboot....the system hung at boot....
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i ahven't updated in a few hours, maybe
[08:01] <leo_rockw> harmental: i blame the projector :-P
[08:01] <harmental> i was only at home that i realised how to solve the "booting" problem....but the question is: shouldnt using a projector be easier?
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> why would it be?
[08:03] <harmental> leo_rockw: not funny when the whole lab (who is constantly advocating M$ Office products....) told me to use the room pc!
[08:03] <leo_rockw> harmental: i know...
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental, i still blame the projector
[08:03] <andrew__> I'm trying to set up samba, however I can't seem to change my workgroup.  I changed it in all instances of smb.conf, but I'm still in "workgroup"
[08:04] <harmental> i had to squeeze my OpenOffice file into an UGLY Ms Office ppt...which obviously didnt respected fonts, margins, etc.....(I DO blame OO for that)
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> you blame OO because powerpoint doesn't respect another file format?
[08:04] <harmental> I even had to bare a lady telling me that using non-propietary software should be forbidden in the lab for compatibility issues!!!
[08:04] <leo_rockw> harmental: i blame the projector and Occam's razor says i'm right
[08:05] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: I blame OO for not exporting ppt as it should...
[08:05] <leo_rockw> harmental: even M$ office doesn't export as it should between different versions
[08:05] <harmental> (pdf was perfect btw....but no animations.. :o(
[08:05] <harmental> leo_rockw: yeah...I know....but OO export feature NEVER works  :oP
[08:06] <leo_rockw> harmental: have you donated to OO.o lately?
[08:06] <leo_rockw> harmental: or sent them any patch?
[08:06] <harmental> leo_rockw: what does that have to do with anything?
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental, everything
[08:07] <harmental> leo_rockw: dont get all dramatic...
[08:07] <leo_rockw> harmental: you can't demand that OO plays nicely with M$
[08:07] <harmental> Im a student a not a programming expert....
[08:07] <harmental> Im not demanding OO....
[08:07] <Daisuke_Ido> just ebcause it's free software doesn't mean that the people that depend on it (as you so obviously do) can't kick back a few dollars every once in a while
[08:08] <harmental> all im saying is that the THOSE incompatibiliy issues are OO fault...
[08:08] <harmental> thats it...
[08:08] <leo_rockw> harmental: your money could help programmers work harder
[08:08] <harmental> other than that....I happy with the whole OO suite...
[08:08] <andrew__> Any idea why my workgroup won't change?
[08:08] <harmental> leo_rockw: you are missing the point here...
[08:08] <leo_rockw> harmental: am i?
[08:09] <leo_rockw> i blame M$ office for not opening odt
[08:09] <harmental> leo_rockw: look...I'm glad to participate in open projects when possible...
[08:09] <harmental> I have provided some tricks for using wine with scientific software for instance...
[08:09] <harmental> but thats not my main occupation..
[08:10] <leo_rockw> OO.o developers don't find ppt exporting as vital as you do
[08:10] <harmental> the fact I have not donated to OO or that i have not provided ant bug fixes shouldnt mean I'm not allowed to say that the compatibility issues bet MS and OO are OO fault....
[08:11] <harmental> as well as I can strongly assert that MS has NO compatibility whatsoever with OO, and thats MS fault....
[08:11] <leo_rockw> harmental: ppt is not a standard, odf is
[08:11] <harmental> or that sometimes different versions of MS render different results from the same file
[08:11] <harmental> (thats with I use OO)
[08:12] <harmental> if i wanted to make a "complain" about OO I would do it in the OO channel...not here....
[08:12] <harmental> mine was just a comment....
[08:12] <leo_rockw> and i commented that i don't agree with your comment
[08:12] <harmental> and ppt IS a standard....
[08:13] <leo_rockw> harmental: nope, it's not
[08:13] <harmental> whether we like it or not...
[08:13] <leo_rockw> harmental: pptx is
[08:13] <harmental> (i personally dont)
[08:13] <harmental> leo_rockw: whats your definition of "standard"?
[08:13] <leo_rockw> harmental: ISO
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> recognized standard
[08:13] <harmental> you have different types of standards
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> just because it's "used" doesn't make it a "standard"
[08:13] <leo_rockw> harmental: no, de facto is not a standard
[08:14] <harmental> its called de facto
[08:14] <karl_> ISO lost some credibility when they let OXML in
[08:14] <karl_> de jure
[08:14] <harmental> karl_: we all agree on that....
[08:14] <leo_rockw> karl_: ^
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental, a de facto standard is not a standard.
[08:14] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: guys.....we are on the same side here...
[08:15] <harmental> but you have to accept that being used by 90% of the people is a form of standardization
[08:15]  * andrew__ sniffles :(
[08:15] <tuanpham> leo_rockw: can i setting up beryl on kubuntu ?
[08:15] <leo_rockw> harmental: i'm not saying we aren't. i'm just saying it's not fair to blame OO.o for not converting to a propietary format
[08:15] <karl_> but you asked what the definition of standards are
[08:15] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: beryl is not used anymore
[08:16] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: you can install compiz-fusion
[08:16] <tuanpham> inteats of ?
[08:16] <karl_> leo_rockw: especially when those formats have to be reverse engineered to work
[08:16] <harmental> leo_rockw: and that has nothing to do with the standard issue...
[08:16] <leo_rockw> karl_: exactly!
[08:16] <eagles0513875> how do i find out what version of kubuntu im using
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a crutch that everyone works around because no one's big enough to knock the 800 pound gorilla off his pedestal...  yet
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll continue using odt for my papers, and let office 2007 die the horrible death it deserves
[08:16] <karl_> true that
[08:16] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: i agree
[08:16] <karl_> i like the last version of the office suite much better
[08:17] <eagles0513875> !version
[08:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[08:17] <leo_rockw> eagles0513875: lsb_release -d
[08:17] <harmental> but odt shouldnt be imposed....thats also dangerous.....
[08:17] <harmental> my lab is a perfect example for that...
[08:17] <harmental> they are M$ lovers...
[08:17] <foibles> does anyone know any launchers like engage?
[08:17] <Daisuke_Ido> then they need to be reeducated
[08:17] <Daisuke_Ido> or beaten with a hammer
[08:17] <foibles> ive been using gdesklets, but its laggy
[08:17] <leo_rockw> harmental: i don't even use OO
[08:18] <foibles> same with superkaramba
[08:18] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: after four years i've given up...
[08:18] <harmental> I choose my fights...
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental, i'm just starting to make headway, getting a little success
[08:18] <karl_> harmental: the problem is that those formats are proprietary, so coders of open source softwares can't just look at the specifications and write code that matches them. Instead they have to make educated guesses to figure out how it works, which ends up being a poor implimentation. In this way, it is not a standard at all, except for coders of Microsoft Office.
[08:18] <karl_> in case it wasn't made clear
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> harmental, university or high school?
[08:18] <harmental> making my boss understand that doing a PhD thesis with latex is the way to go was a pain in the ass!
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> purely out of curiosity
[08:19] <leo_rockw> harmental: haha, i hear you
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that answers that...
[08:19] <andrew__> I'm having a problem, I can't chown some of my files
[08:20] <leo_rockw> i once sent my boss a plain text file and she told me "i didn't know what to make of it so i pasted it in M$ word..."
[08:20] <andrew__> nevermind on the chown
[08:20] <karl_> lol
[08:20] <andrew__> but can anyone help me with the problem with samba?
[08:20] <tuanpham> leo_rockw: how can i get it /
[08:20] <Daisuke_Ido> i feel fortunate to be on a campus that recognizes and supports linux
[08:21] <karl_> what school do you go to?
[08:21] <leo_rockw> samba, another educated guess to figure out how something works...
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> IPFW (indiana/purdue fort wayne)
[08:21] <cpk1> andrew__: what do you need from samba?
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, i've made progress in spreading ubuntu - my fiancee, her parents, and three of my best friends have switched in the past two months
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and tech support's awesome, ssh :D
[08:23] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-plugins compiz-kde
[08:23] <leo_rockw> tuanpham: you might need some other package, idk
[08:23] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i couldn't convert anybody :(
[08:23] <andrew__> I'm trying to change my workgroup, I've edited both instances of smb.conf to say a different workgroup, but I'm still showing in "Workgroup:
[08:24] <cpk1> andrew__: did you restart the samba service?
[08:24] <andrew__> I'm trying to change my workgroup, I've edited both instances of smb.conf to say a different workgroup, but I'm still showing in "Workgroup:
[08:25] <tuanpham_> and now get this
[08:25] <karl_> andrew__: is this on your windows PC or linux box?
[08:25] <karl_> that you are changing the workgroup on?
[08:25] <tuanpham_> why i have been chaged my nick ?
[08:25] <andrew__> linux
[08:25] <andrew__> and I'm changing it to testgroup
[08:26] <tuanpham_> tuanpham =>> tuanpham_
[08:26] <andrew__> I found someone who suggested chaning the domain, I did that just now, and now it says "unable to find any workgroups in your local network" in dolphin
[08:27] <harmental> Daisuke_Ido: dont worry...me neither...
[08:29] <DOOM_NX> Good Morning :)
[08:29] <andrew__> any ideas, I can't even view the list of workgroups it finds anymore :(
[08:33] <cpk1> andrew__: everytime you edit the config file you are restarting the samba service, correct?
[08:34] <andrew__> well, oops on that one :3, but that doesn't explain why I'm getting that error :\
[08:35] <andrew__> maybe samba didn't start just now
[08:35] <andrew__> how can I check?
[08:35] <cpk1> restart it with sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[08:36] <cpk1> i think
[08:37] <andrew__> That command "worked" it says it restarted the server, but it's still saying I'm in workgroup "workgroup"
[08:37] <cpk1> what 2 instances of smb.conf are you editing?
[08:39] <andrew__> cpk1:
[08:39] <andrew__> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:39] <andrew__> /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[08:40] <cpk1> i doubt it reads anything from /usr/share/samba
[08:40] <cpk1> pastebin /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:40] <andrew__> one moment, I'm going to change it again to something really wacky
[08:41] <SitUbuntuSit> how do you install a sound theme in kubuntu?
[08:42] <andrew__> cpk1: ok it didn't work, I'll do the pastebin, hold on
[08:43]  * cpk1 supposes its time to test his samba knowledge after months of not even looking at it
[08:44] <andrew__> http://pastebin.com/m13afbd56
[08:44] <andrew__> (I'm still showing up as part of the workgroup "Workgroup"
[08:44] <DarkJustice> Linux newb in need of serious help before I pull out the last of my hair... I have an ALC655 Realteak onboard sound card, and I'm only getting sound out of one speaker when playing DVDs/mp3s.. however when I test with "speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav"  I get sound from all speakers. The good people in ALSA helped me determine it's not an alsa problem. I'm using kde and kmix as my mixer, any help would be GREATLY appr
[08:44] <cpk1> DarkJustice: what player are you using?
[08:44] <DarkJustice> cpk1: for dvds kaffeine
[08:45] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: u on hardy
[08:45] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: umm not sure, how do I find out? sorry I just installed htis recently and I'm going nuts
[08:46] <DarkJustice> I was wondering if it's my .asoundrc file... I can paste that if that would help
[08:47] <eagles0513875> !version | DarkJustice
[08:47] <ubotu> DarkJustice: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[08:48] <DarkJustice> gutsy
[08:48] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: ok j/w how old is the machine u r on
[08:48] <DarkJustice> I've been at this for 5 days now and I'm almost ready to go back to windows
[08:49] <DarkJustice> umm about 2 years old.. 3.2GHz system
[08:49] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: u trying to get ur surround sound to work right
[08:49] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: yes
[08:49] <jussi01> DarkJustice: have you tried manually selecting alsa as the sound system in systemsettings -sound ?
[08:49] <DarkJustice> jussi01: yeah
[08:49] <Malic> Hi! my kontact doesnt use the color sheme of my kde desktop.. how can i change this?
[08:50] <cpk1> andrew__: are you just trying to access windows shares?
[08:50] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: what kinda surround sound system u hooking up
[08:50] <jussi01> Malic: which system are you on?
[08:50] <Malic> gutsy
[08:50] <Malic> kde 3.5
[08:51] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: some generic speaker system I got, doesn't even have a name on them. But they worked fantastic in windows
[08:51] <andrew__> Right now I'm just trying to get my workgroup setup
[08:51] <andrew__> but I show up in the wrong one
[08:51] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: 5.1
[08:52] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: yeah but I"d settle for 4.1
[08:52] <cpk1> andrew__: but is this computer going to be sharing any folders or is it just going to accessing a remote share?
[08:52] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: this is goign to sound stupid everything plugged in right
[08:52] <andrew__> Both
[08:52] <andrew__> cpk1: As you can see from from the pastebin, I'm supposed to be in workgroup BBBBBB, but instead I show up in "WORKGROUP"
[08:52] <andrew__> which is a problem as the computers I will be sharing WITH won't see me
[08:53] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: yeah, well as best as can be lol. I had to use jack sharing, I don't have the extra two ports for sound, only the standard 3
[08:53] <DarkJustice> and it works fine when I run the test in a terminal, it goes through and I get sound from each speaker
[08:53] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: humm im not a sound expert u might have to edit a conf file but im not sure which
[08:54] <DarkJustice> well I found on a forum about the .asoundrc file
[08:54] <DarkJustice> but that didn't seem to help
[08:54] <andrew__> I have the workgroup defined as BBBBBB in the /etc/samba, "PPPPPP" in the /usr one, and "QQQQQQ" in domain in KDE's domain field.
[08:54] <andrew__> But I appear in none of those.
[08:55] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: i was having an issue with that on my new laptop and open suse after some messing round got only one speaker to work out of 2
[08:55] <cpk1> I don't see what kde has to do with samba... anyways, you have lots of extra fluff in your config that are probably unneeded, I would suggest looking at this andrew__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[08:56] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: ok thanks for the help. I'm gonna go back to ripping out what little hair I have left lol
[08:56] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: wait
[08:56] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: ok still here
[08:57] <andrew__> cpk1: that guide is pretty useless as according to that, I should be in workgroup BBBBBB
[08:57] <eagles0513875> DarkJustice: if u take of that shared jack how many speakers r u left with
[08:57] <jussi01> eagles0513875: you are doing that u thing again...
[08:58] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: take off the jack?
[08:58] <cpk1> andrew__: yeah but you also have a lot of extra settings in your config that could be doing something
[08:58] <DarkJustice> eagles0513875: I have 3 cables coming from the subwoofer, and into the jacks on the back of the box
[08:58] <SitUbuntuSit> can you install system sounds in kde?
[08:59] <eagles0513875> jussi01: thanks for the reminder
[08:59] <andrew__> Ok, for kicked, I just used the command they had to start and stop samba.
[08:59] <andrew__> *for kicks
[08:59] <andrew__> The result: BBBBBB shows up as a workgroup now.  The catch, I'm still in "workgroup"
[08:59] <cpk1> it might just be a kaffeine problem, I would suggest trying with mplayer and/or vlc and see if they get you full surround DarkJustice
[09:00] <DarkJustice> cpk1: I get NOTHING at all in mplayer or vlc, it won't even play the DVD in those, kaffeine is the only one that is reading it
[09:00] <cpk1> that also shouldnt be happening
[09:01] <DarkJustice> I forget what the error was that I was getting now
[09:02] <DarkJustice> ok it's umm /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected
[09:03] <cpk1> andrew__: does /var/log/samba/log.smbd have anything valuable?
[09:04] <DarkJustice> with mplayer I just get "seek failed"
[09:04] <jussi01> !dvd | DarkJustice
[09:04] <ubotu> DarkJustice: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:05] <leo_rockw> goodbye, going to bed...
[09:05] <cpk1> andrew__: also I feel like the whole domains section could be commented out
[09:05] <andrew__> cpk1: no, just notices that it's been reloaded
[09:06] <andrew__> cpk1: the domains section IS commented out
[09:07] <cpk1> oh, hard to notice the semicolons on my screen =X
[09:09] <cpk1> andrew__: are you browsing the workgroups from the linux box or from a windows box?
[09:11] <andrew__> Linux
[09:11] <andrew__> this very one
[09:11] <andrew__> in dolphin
[09:11] <cpk1> also trying to figure out how kde has anything to do with what windows workgroup you are in
[09:11] <cpk1> oh, are you using kde4?
[09:11] <andrew__> not yet
[09:12] <cpk1> kde3 has dolphin?
[09:12] <andrew__> yes
[09:12] <andrew__> 3.5.8
[09:12] <cpk1> alright let me install samba real quick and see what it does for me
[09:12] <SlimeyPete> kde3 has d3lphin
[09:12] <SlimeyPete> which I believe is a cut-down dolphin
[09:12] <andrew__> And more importantly I just checked again, and now I'm showing up in both BBBBBB and Workgroup
[09:12] <SlimeyPete> though I don't use it myself
[09:15] <cpk1> I cant even figure out how to get dolphin to tell me anything about workgroups...
[09:17] <andrew__> cpk1:
[09:17] <andrew__> remote:/smb-network/
[09:18] <cpk1> doesnt let me connect to that...
[09:18] <cpk1> now would have been a good time for me to not be on hardy and putting up with a system that is broken
[09:18] <jussi01> in konq it was smb:/ dunno about dolphin
[09:19] <cpk1> ahahaha if i try to go to smb:/ in konq it crashes
[09:29] <eagles0513875> !vpn
[09:29] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[09:35] <jussi01> !mint > DarkJustice
[09:36] <Smurfie> Hello everyone.
[09:36] <jussi01> Smurfie: hi!
[09:36] <Smurfie> I'm a new kubuntu user and have a new-user question.
[09:36] <jussi01> !ask | Smurfie
[09:36] <ubotu> Smurfie: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:36] <Smurfie> k
[09:38] <Smurfie> I bought a Dell Inspiron 1525 and installed kubuntu 7.10, but it misbehaves in that when I move the 'mouse' it seems someone else presses the left mouse button at inopportune moments.
[09:38] <Smurfie> Anyone recognize this behavior?
[09:39] <cpk1> if you are using the touchpad you can actually use the touchpad to left click and maybe it thinks that what you are doing?
[09:39] <Smurfie> Oh, possibly...
[09:40] <Smurfie> I will reboot the machine and see if there's anything in the BIOS I can change, tnx for the tip.
[09:40] <cpk1> might not need bios
[09:40] <cpk1> search around in kde settings first
[09:40] <Smurfie> No? Oh, ok, KDE.
[09:40] <cpk1> see if you can disable touchpad click or something
[09:40] <Smurfie> Thanks, I will try that right away.
[09:42] <cpk1> bios might only be able to turn the whole touchpad off, which what I doubt you want, hopefully kde might have more options than that.  Also that might not be the problem Smurfie =P
[09:42] <Smurfie> heh
[09:42] <cpk1> I was just giving the first and simplest that came to mind =)
[09:43]  * Smurfie considered switching to Gnome ;-)
[09:44] <KubuntuJack> my samsunx x20 laptop seems to run a lot warmer under kubuntu than xp.  anything I can do about it? it's already in powersave mode at 800 mhz
[09:48] <Smurfie> KDE doesn't seem to have such a setting, wherever I look.
[09:54] <killaAPP> hi
[09:55] <killaAPP> how do I turn on ssh on this thing???!!!!
[09:55] <Smurfie> Yeah, that was my first question, too. ;-)
[09:56] <Smurfie> It's easy, lemme see if I can reproduce what I did before someone more knowledgeable steps in.
[09:56] <stdin> killaAPP: sudo apt-get install ssh
[09:56] <killaAPP> how do I turn on ssh on this thing???!!!!
[09:57] <Smurfie> System Settings, Advanced, System Services I think.
[09:57] <SlimeyPete> killaAPP: use adept or apt-get to install openssh-server
[09:57] <killaAPP> it's not installed by default??!!!
[09:57] <Smurfie> No, not by default.
[09:57] <SlimeyPete> no, it's not
[09:58] <killaAPP> hally ...!!
[09:58] <Smurfie> But it's easy to install and run it.
[09:58] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu is primarily a desktop distro, so a lot of users don't need an ssh server.
[09:58] <stdin> killaAPP: why would a network service that opens a possible security risk be installed by default??!!!
[09:58] <SlimeyPete> those of us who need it can install it easily :)
[09:58] <Smurfie> Normal users do not want to ssh in to their PC. ;-)
[09:58] <killaAPP> MAc OS has it as default
[09:59] <Smurfie> Their choice.
[09:59] <Smurfie> A different system means different defaults.
[09:59] <stdin> well windows opens up your C:\ to the network by default, don't mean we want to do the same
[09:59] <Smurfie> Though I admit I can feel your pain, killaAPP.
[10:00] <killaAPP> why openssh-server and not ssh???
[10:00] <Smurfie> ssh is the client, you need the server.
[10:00] <stdin> Smurfie: no
[10:00] <Smurfie> oh?
[10:00] <killaAPP> woah!! are you comparing ssh with m$$$??
[10:00] <stdin> ssh install the server, meta-package, client's already installed
[10:01] <Smurfie> Noone is, killaAPP.
[10:01] <stdin> killaAPP: what's with all the over puncuation?!
[10:01]  * Smurfie redirects stdin
[10:01] <Smurfie> ;-)
[10:01] <Smurfie> Nice nick.
[10:02] <killaAPP> mm...
[10:02] <killaAPP> how do I X forward??!!
[10:03] <Smurfie> Check your ~/.ssh/config settings, it's in there I think.
[10:03] <stdin> read the ssh man page
[10:03] <Smurfie> Better, yes.
[10:03] <stdin> or just use -X
[10:03] <godkas> BAH. For some reason the java plugin for mozilla isnt working
[10:04] <stdin> seriously thought, is there a reason for ending each sentence with several question marks and exclamation points??!!
[10:04] <godkas> i installed via adept with flash and java and the flash works but the java does not
[10:04] <killaAPP> how -X??!!
[10:04] <Smurfie> ssh -X
[10:05] <SlimeyPete> that's when you're using the client
[10:05] <SlimeyPete> if you want to x-forward from your ubuntu box you need to amend the sshd configuration to allow it
[10:05] <SlimeyPete> as far as I remember
[10:05]  * Smurfie nods
[10:05] <killaAPP> stdin it's a key
[10:06] <eagles0513875> stdin: i fixed that error on the changelog
[10:06] <Smurfie> A keyboard key? Like e.g. cAPSlOCK?
[10:06] <killaAPP> already working without ammending
[10:06] <killaAPP> Smurfie yes this one ??!!
[10:07] <Smurfie> I suppose, yes...
[10:07] <killaAPP> wow this is insane!!
[10:08] <killaAPP> how come noone told me about this before!!
[10:08] <stdin> eagles0513875: wait for apachelogger to review
[10:08] <eagles0513875> stdin: ok
[10:08] <killaAPP> Smurfie I am kidding
[10:09] <eagles0513875> stdin: roger that
[10:09] <eagles0513875> stdin: seems like my other one got uploaded but its being held back i think waiting for this other one
[10:10] <killaAPP> overflow in spectral RLE, ignoring
[10:12] <killaAPP> amarok isnt playing the sound
[10:12] <killaAPP> why??!!
[10:13] <stdin> eagles0513875: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 needs a patch too, from comment #3 "kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 shouldn't replace/conflict kdebase-bin-kde3, same reason as above."
[10:13] <eagles0513875> stdin: O_o apachelogger didnt say anything about a patch
[10:14] <stdin> eagles0513875: it's the 3rd comment on the report, after hobbsee's
[10:14] <eagles0513875> im looking at it
[10:14] <killaAPP> is it possible to X forward m$$$ apps off XP??
[10:15] <eagles0513875> stdin: instead of patching i took them out of the control
[10:15] <stdin> eagles0513875: that is the patch ;)
[10:15] <stdin> killaAPP: no, as they don't run on X, you'd have to use something like VNC
[10:16] <eagles0513875> stdin: lol its done lol
[10:16] <Smurfie> killaAPP, I think you'd need Cygwin on the XP box.
[10:16] <eagles0513875> both of em r
[10:16] <killaAPP> stdin can a VNC a single app ?? Or's gotta be the whole XP?
[10:17]  * Smurfie rereads the question
[10:17] <killaAPP> can I install Xorg on XP then??
[10:17] <Smurfie> Maybe under Cygwin, but VNC is far easier of course.
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> you can if you use cygwin
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> you can also use xming
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> xming is definitely preferable for x-forwarding
[10:18] <godkas> Has anyone else run into an issue using the package manager to install mozilla and its java plugin?  think I just need to point it to the location maybe
[10:18] <stdin> killaAPP: I think it can do a single app. There's also FreeNX https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> cos it's tiny and free
[10:18] <killaAPP> which one is better?
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> and will do full log-ins.
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> xming or freenx are best.
[10:18] <Smurfie> godkas, what error messages do you get?
[10:18] <killaAPP> k
[10:19] <stdin> killaAPP: FreeNX will do both ssh and vnc, so you can choose which ever work best with what you're doing. you can also use it from windows -> linux in the same way
[10:19] <killaAPP> how to transfer stuff??
[10:19] <killaAPP> stdin cool
[10:20] <stdin> open konqueror or dolphin and use sftp://username@host
[10:20] <killaAPP> will definately try
[10:20] <stdin> sftp is the same as ssh but for file transfer, no need for another service
[10:21] <godkas> Smurfie: no error just isnt registering that i installed it
[10:22] <godkas> oh there it is
[10:22] <killaAPP> can I start programs like this? konqueror &&
[10:22] <godkas> took a sec
[10:22] <killaAPP> so I can run something else?
[10:22] <godkas> nope i was lied to
[10:22] <godkas> no erro
[10:22] <stdin> killaAPP: you mean "konqueror &", on '&' makes it go into the background, 2 '&'s mean "then run"
[10:23] <killaAPP> stdin yeah one &
[10:24] <killaAPP> how to use sftp?
[10:24] <Smurfie> That sux, godkas.
[10:25] <stdin> killaAPP: copy/click and paste/drag over
[10:25] <godkas> Smurfie: Well I would assume no error is good :P i saw something while researching about pointing it at a different plugin directory
[10:26] <Smurfie> No error message is only good if there's no error, of course. ;-)
[10:26] <killaAPP> stdin k thx
[10:26] <killaAPP> this has been very instructive
[10:27] <Smurfie> But yeah, I'd update my /etc/apt/sources.lst (sp?) in such a case.
[10:32] <Smurfie> /etc/apt/sources.list, does it have universe and multiverse godkas?
[10:33] <godkas> yes
[10:33] <Smurfie> oh
[10:37] <godkas> OR
[10:37] <godkas> is it installing 64bit mozilla
[10:37] <godkas> adept doesnt say
[10:38] <jussi01> godkas: did I read correctly that you are trying to install flash on a 64bit box?
[10:39] <godkas> java
[10:39] <jussi01> !java64 | godkas
[10:39] <ubotu> godkas: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:40] <godkas> yea so i need to install 32bit firefox
[10:47] <pascalFR> hello latest hardy updates seem to have broken kubuntu
[10:50] <pascalFR> The following packages have been kept back:
[10:50] <pascalFR>   kdebase-bin kdesktop kdm
[10:50] <pascalFR> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[10:50] <makdaknife> !hardy
[10:50] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:05] <amerigo> !games
[11:05] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:07] <zzzz> !canon
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <aldo> hi
[11:33] <coggz> yay, i just got twitter
[11:34] <coggz> oh, and i do have a problem
[11:35] <jussi01> coggz: how can we help?
[11:36] <coggz> not a big thing, i installed kde4 the day it came out, then promptly removed it. It however left my qt apps looking rathere black. the theme i used in kde4 has stuck just with qt
[11:36] <coggz> normal kwin and gtk themes are fine.
[11:41] <coggz> any ideas
[11:42] <jussi01> coggz: install the kde4 control panel, and change the theme
[11:43] <coggz> aagh
[11:43] <coggz> ok
[11:44] <coggz> any other way... without kde4
[11:47] <coggz> qt4-qtconfig i think might do it actually
[11:51] <coggz> aha, it has worked
[11:53] <jussi01> !md5 > DarkJustice
[11:59] <bragoo08> part
[11:59] <coggz> im screwed
[12:00] <coggz> i got a "game" called blast. i now have holes in irc, my work and in my desktop
[12:04]  * coggz 
[12:04]  * coggz gets himself unscrewed
[12:08] <dcorbin_work> adept_manager crapped out on me.  Subsequent runs say another process is using the packaging system, but I can't find it.  Ideas?
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[12:09] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> ^^ do that, without the << >>
[12:16] <dcorbin_work> can someone please remind me what the KDE news reader is called? Thanks
[12:18] <twager> dcorbin_work: Knode ?
[12:18] <dcorbin_work> ubotu: thanks.
[12:18] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:19] <dcorbin_work> Ah. (Silly me)
[12:19] <dcorbin_work> Thanks, SlimeyPete.
[12:51] <mneisen> Hi, starting today, amarok crashes on startup, and kaffeine crashes when trying to play a video file. Does anyone experience the same, or - preferably - knows how to fix this? Thanks!
[12:54] <math> hi how, do I enable the 3D desktop in 7.10?
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> !compiz
[12:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:16] <noam_> hey there... i have an audio problem. i'm trying to record two audio tracks at the same time; to do that i use audacity to record one track and then record the other one on top of it
[13:17] <noam_> the problem is that when "play other tracks while recording a new one" is checked in preferences, audacity just hangs and dies
[13:26] <matthijs> hi
[13:27] <matthijs> can somebody help me
[13:27] <matthijs> ?
[13:28] <ds187> !ask
[13:28] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:29] <matthijs> is their somewhere a tutorial about changing the fonts, because this is the first time for me in kubuntu
[13:29] <matthijs> and the font is ugly
[13:29] <localuser> was kubuntu 8.04 beta supposed to have pulseaudio pre-installed?
[13:29] <matthijs> i always used windows vista
[13:31] <ds187> matthijs: have you tried under the SystemSettings menu the "Appearance" submenu? there is the font-configuration for your kde-theme
[13:32] <matthijs> yes, but the fonts in firefox are ugly
[13:32] <matthijs> not smooth
[13:40] <Dr_willis> pulseaudio is a feature of the gnome desktop.  I dont think its in the kubuntu  installs
[13:41] <localuser> Dr_willis: ahh... that would explain it :)
[13:41] <Dr_willis> of coruse i always install ubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop. and.....
[13:41] <Dr_willis> :) so it dosent matter much to me
[13:41] <localuser> heh
[13:42] <Odd-rationale> so the kde version of PulseAudio is Arts/Phonon ?
[13:54] <makdaknife> Dr_willis: Odd-rationale: I think that PulseAudio sits beneath Arts... and is available for Kubuntu as well
[13:54] <makdaknife> Dr_willis: see http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Pulseaudio-diagram.png for an explanation
[13:55] <makdaknife> Pulseaudio is not a gnome specific application
[13:57] <Odd-rationale> makdaknife: is it included in kubuntu 8.04 ?
[13:57] <Odd-rationale> by default?
[13:57] <Dr_willis> i tried running the pulseaudio config app under kde - and it dident like it.
[13:57] <makdaknife> I may be wrong on this, but I think that Hardy Heron installs PulseAudio by default in Kubuntu
[13:57] <Jucato> probably wrong
[13:57] <Dr_willis> could be kubuntu/kde dosent start the puseaudio server by default.
[13:57] <Jucato> since KDE 3 isn't setup to work with Pulse Audio
[13:57] <Odd-rationale> makdaknife: how about if i did a cli install? would it be installed there too?
[13:57] <Jucato> (you have to do some config tweaking)
[13:58] <Jucato> Dr_willis: he's right though, it's not a GNOME thing (or is it? :P). It's the audio counterpart of the *Kit stuff
[13:58] <Dr_willis> I dont know. Its not installed by drfault on the kde kubuntu that i saw. and i dosent run by default on the kde3 desktop The only apps ive seen that take use of the new pulse audio stuff are gnome apps
[13:59] <makdaknife> Odd-rationale: I haven't tried to get it working as I have too many sound specific tasks to do to afford the downtime if it borks my currently working sound
[13:59] <makdaknife> sometime soon, I'm gonna do a dummy install on a different disk to check that everything works properly
[14:07] <makdaknife> seems someone else managed to get pulse working fine with gutsy kubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692629
[14:10] <sml> anyone else having trouble running pyscrabble in hardy kde4? hangs for me..
[14:12] <ahmed> hi i want to make my kubuntu 7.10 auto mount for my second hard disk i know i have to edit fstab but i dont know how to
[14:17] <makdaknife> ahmed: instead of editing the fstab... you might want to go to the advanced section in System Settings and have a look as Disk & Filesystem
[14:18] <makdaknife> ahmed: if you change to Administrator mode... you will be able to edit the options for the drives listed here... and you can specify to enable at startup
[14:18] <ahmed> ok im there now what i have to do there
[14:18] <makdaknife> ahmed: this will help to prevent you from accidentally messing up a fairly critical configuration file
[14:19] <ahmed> i opened advanced section in System Settings
[14:19] <makdaknife> ahmed: click on Disk and Filesystems
[14:19] <ahmed> ok
[14:19] <makdaknife> ahmed: now click on Administrator mode
[14:20] <makdaknife> ahmed: enter your password
[14:20] <ahmed> ok i did that
[14:20] <makdaknife> ahmed: now select the disk partition that you want to automount, right click and click Modify
[14:21] <ahmed> ok
[14:21] <makdaknife> ahmed: now you should be able to choose your mountpoint and select to enable at startup
[14:21] <ahmed> ok i'll try that and see thanks for u
[14:22] <makdaknife> ahmed: no problem... its worth having a look to see what this has added to /etc/fstab, so that you understand what it has done
[14:23] <makdaknife> ahmed: also, it will teach you a bit about what happens under the hood
[14:24] <llutz> reading "man 5 fstab" and " man mount" would be more effective :)
[14:24] <Jucato> !fstab
[14:24] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[14:24] <Jucato> that could help too ^^^^
[14:25] <makdaknife> fair enough... but its a whole lot easier to guide someone through some GUI options than it is to make sure that they have edited a file correctly
[14:25] <makdaknife> unless you are referring to the learning about fstab
[14:26] <Jucato> the learning part
[14:26] <llutz> makdaknife: clicking in guis wouldn't help to understand how it works
[14:26] <Jucato> of course that depends on whether the person wants to learn how it all works under the hood *at this time*
[14:26] <makdaknife> yeah yeah... that's why I suggested having a look at the config file afterward
[14:53] <ovidiu> hi
[14:53] <ovidiu> my apt-get update is stuck on http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <ovidiu> is there a problem with the repositories?
[14:54] <Jucato> !ro
[14:54] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[14:54] <Jucato> perhaps you can ask in that channel ^^^
[14:54] <ovidiu> ok
[14:54] <administrateur> maybe, a people can help me but i am french ... ?
[14:56] <noooooob> what's the channel to help french ? ^^'
[14:57] <llutz> !fr
[14:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:57] <noooooob> thanks ;)
[14:58] <noooooob> Bonjour
[14:58] <noooooob> Erf :x bad channel, sorry
[15:00] <randompie> Hi! I just upgraded to 8.04 beta using instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[15:00] <randompie> I now want to install KDE4 on this machine. How to do that? I want both versions to co-exist.
[15:01] <Jucato> they will coexist. #kubuntu-kde4 has instructions
[15:01] <randompie> In 8.04 also? Will hop over to that channel ...
[15:17] <philipp_> kann mir jemand in php helfen
[15:18] <ds187> philipp_: in english please, or join #kubuntu-de
[15:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:28] <makdaknife> hi BluesKaj
[15:28] <BluesKaj> hi makdaknife
[15:29] <sparr_> how can I forcibly break a process' hold/lock/whatever on an open file?  specifically my sound devices.
[15:29] <llutz> sparr_: fuser
[15:30] <sparr_> llutz: i dont want to kill the process
[15:33] <noaXess> any hint, i need to run a touchscreen and a mouse in parallel mode.. normaly if i click over the touchscreen i get a double click.. i read some howto's online.. but nothing works..
[15:33] <noaXess> is ther a spec. channel for the xserver?
[15:34] <Jucato> #xorg I think
[15:34] <noaXess> Jucato: thanks
[15:34] <Jucato> is your KDE set to open files on double-click with the mouse?
[15:35] <noaXess> Jucato: no.. single klick.
[15:35] <Jucato> er..
[15:35] <noaXess> with the mouse i need a double click..
[15:35] <Jucato> that's what I meant :)
[15:35] <noaXess> but if i click with the pen on the touchscreen i get a doubleclick..
[15:35] <Jucato> right, #xorg for that perhaps :)
[15:35] <noaXess> ok
[15:41] <flipstar> hi, how can i compress a directory with tar without the whole path ?
[15:43] <PhilRod> tar czf filename.tar.gz path/to/directory
[15:44] <flipstar> this also includes the whole path
[15:44] <PhilRod> oh, do you mean that the files in the tarball shouldn't have the path?
[15:45] <jussi01> flipstar: if you are in the parent directory: tar czf filename.tar.gz dirname
[15:46] <chris062689> How can I install Firefox 3?  What package name is it in the repos?
[15:47] <chris062689> For Feisty.
[15:48] <jussi01> chris062689: I dont think it is in feisty repos
[15:48] <chris062689> Dang...
[15:48] <chris062689> Is there a .deb lying around?
[15:48] <llutz> chris062689: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firefox-30-still-in-alpha-installation-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[15:49] <chris062689> thank you.
[15:49] <llutz> mabye that helps for beta too
[15:53] <ubuntu__> hola
[15:53] <jussi01> !es | ubuntu__
[15:53] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:55] <ubuntu__> hi all
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> hey ubuntu__
[15:57] <ubuntu__> how are u?
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> good, but this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[15:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:00] <Loud> -_-
[16:00] <ubuntu__> ok sorry
[16:01] <ubuntu__> ey
[16:01] <ubuntu__> vente alubuntu es
[16:05] <ubuntu-dron> hello everyone. Have a huge problem installing Trust WB-3100  webcam. Someone help me!
[16:06] <chris062689> What is the package name for Opera?
[16:07] <llutz> opera(-static)
[16:07] <chris062689> sudo apt-get install opera-static
[16:07] <chris062689> ?
[16:07] <llutz> in 500 http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Packages
[16:09] <chris062689> ok.
[16:09] <chris062689> !opra
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <chris062689> !opera
[16:09] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[16:32] <BluesKaj> shouldn't the cups-print server be listed in 'system services' ?
[16:33] <llutz> it's cupys
[16:33] <llutz> it's cupsys
[16:36] <Lehan> Hello guys!I need some help with installing Ubuntu
[16:37] <Lehan> Can i install Ubuntu on file system FAT32?
[16:38] <simcop2387-lab> is there any way to temporarily prevent whatever is destroying my /etc/resolv.conf from doing so? i need different settings when my VPN is up and it keeps getting clobbered if i add them manually and i don't know what to do to prevent that
[16:38] <muesli> simcop2387-lab: that's probably gonna be the annoying networkmanager
[16:38] <BluesKaj> I have the cupsys running , but the print wizard has the 'smb shared printer (Windows) ' greyed out. Must a conflict in the smb.conf file but dunno what it is.
[16:39] <simcop2387-lab> muesli: nothing by that name is running according to ps, if you mean the thing in the systray, i closed that already thinking the same thing
[16:39] <muesli> ps ax | grep NetworkManager
[16:40] <simcop2387-lab> muesli: ah stupid uppercase
[16:40] <muesli> heh yeah, quite an anomaly
[16:40] <simcop2387-lab> is killing it fine for now, i don't care if i have to reset later to get it back
[16:40] <muesli> sure just kill it
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> grep -i
[16:41] <simcop2387-lab> k
[16:43] <amrush> hey all.. I deleted my windows partition through gparted and before I format it, I remembered that I still have some personal files in it. I just want to know how can I get back this partition to work .. can anyone help?
[16:44] <KrazyWolf> Good morning fellers
[16:44] <genii> amrush: Change the partition type back to ntfs (or what it was before) and you should be able to access it again. This can be done from fdisk at commandline
[16:46] <genii> amrush:eg: sudo fdisk /dev/<the partition name>                           then choose T to change type. Put the old number for proper type. Then W to exit and save the change
[16:47] <genii> amrush: The normal number to put for partition type of ntfs is 7
[16:49] <simcop2387-lap> bit of advice, don't do that
[16:49] <simcop2387-lap> it closed all network connections and i couldn't get them up for a bit
[16:51] <llutz> simcop2387-lap if you don't want to use networkmanager, you need your network to be configured in /etc/network/interfaces for use with ifupdown
[16:51] <simcop2387-lap> yea
[16:51] <simcop2387-lap> i'm just not wanting it to clobber my dns settings
[16:51] <wad> What's the command to see if a package is installed?
[16:51] <llutz> wad apt-cache policy package
[16:51] <wad> ok
[16:53] <amrush_> genii the partition is unallocated, and does not appear in fdisk -l .. i don't think it can be worked on through the command fdisk
[16:53] <julie> the resolution of kdm is higher than the normal desktop any idea?
[16:55] <Riddell> hi AndrewB, remind me if we've met
[16:56] <Riddell> I think I'm being distracted by the canoeist photo in facebook
[17:02] <KrazyWolf> WOW!
[17:02] <KrazyWolf> I gotm uted in ##linux because I was debating the point of linux with someone
[17:02] <KrazyWolf> what a anal mofo
[17:03] <hydrogen> !topic | KrazyWolf
[17:03] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[17:04] <hydrogen> !offtopic | KrazyWolf
[17:04] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:04] <KrazyWolf> hydrogen, but me and this dude were discussing it, there was nothing but offtopic in that channel, and the sob just muted me without even giving me a warning or anything lol
[17:04] <hydrogen> no
[17:04] <hydrogen> its off topic
[17:04] <hydrogen> for you to whine about it here
[17:05] <KrazyWolf> lol
[17:05] <KrazyWolf> hydrogen, okay mr. i like to use bot commands to show my coolness
[17:11] <simcop2387-vnc> grrrrrr i still can't get it to stay sane
[17:12] <simcop2387-vnc> using the system settings in kde doesn't do a thing for the dns settings
[17:13] <Ace2016> knetwork manager
[17:14] <Ace2016> also the dns settings in resolv.conf are overwritten every few min
[17:14] <Ace2016> brb
[17:15] <simcop2387-vnc> Ace2016: yea thats what i'm either wanting to stop, or to change what settings its putting in there, and the dns settings there (which are the same as in the system settings thing) don't stay, they get overwritten again
[17:16] <genii> amrush_: Still here?
[17:19] <simcop2387-vnc> brb
[17:19] <amrush_> genii .. yes
[17:19] <KrazyWolf> I can't fix my damn grub error 15!
[17:19] <genii> amrush_: De-allocating it from gparted/qtparted will mean you need to re-allocate it again from in fdisk. So if the subpartition belonged to main dev of sda then to issue the fdisk command with sda as the arument, then (re)create the partition, with type 7 (for ntfs) and then W to write/exit
[17:20] <MachinatorSyver> could anyone help me get my display to disable powersave? I disabled it in system setting > monitor & display, but it still goes black when my mouse is inactive for about 10 minutes
[17:21] <amrush_> genii .. and how would i do that ?
[17:21] <genii> amrush_: So: sudo fdisk /dev/sda     (if sda was the main device)   then from in there youcan see available command with M
[17:22] <KrazyWolf> Can someone recommend me a linux distro that makes me, a windows user since 1995 that has NEVER seen linux or had had horrible experience with kubuntu over the past few days, want to switch over to linux after messing with some user-friendly not so technical with troubleshootings and such and make me curious about linux more to fully take it on? what is the best distro for my situation and my inexperience with such technacality to make 
[17:23] <genii> amrush_: So if you had de-allocated sda1, then in fdisk, :  N (to make new partition) Choose Primary partition, then 1. After allocating in this way, make the Type number 7 if it was previously ntfs.Use P to list the partitions and make sure things look proper before using the W to write and exit
[17:24] <sl4mm3r> anybody here know how to setup folding at home?  .. fahmon is reporting total PPD = 0
[17:25] <sl4mm3r> and i haven't done any steps in half an hour
[17:26] <rickest> KrazyWolf: having a friend around who knows a little/some/lot of linux would be helpful, irc and google if that's not available.  After all, if you'd used a Mac since 95 and tried to install and use Windows the first time completely by yourself, that probably wouldn't go well either  :-)
[17:26] <simcop2387-lap> well got it working partially by editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf BUT that won't work in general because not everyone has a setup where they're vpning everytime so they don't need to worry about having a possibly hostile dns server on that address, but it works for me my internal domains resolve correctly now
[17:27] <genii> amrush_: If any of my instructions seem unclear, don't hesitate to ask me to clarify, etc.
[17:28] <amrush_> genii .. i chose primary partition .. it directly put it as a linux partition and didn't ask what type i want it to be
[17:29] <genii> amrush_: Thats fine, it wants to use linux type as default. You can manually change it by T then to choose a hexadecimal sequence to put. To see the list of codes, L
[17:29] <jussi01> KrazyWolf: where in the world are you? you may want to contact your local Linux user group, and get someone from that to help - LUG's are usually really helpful lie that.
[17:30] <jussi01> !lug
[17:30] <ubotu> Lug's are Linux User Groups. You cant find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/
[17:30] <simcop2387-lap> i know i can't find mine!
[17:31] <gokorn> how to update driver for graphic card?
[17:31] <gokorn> i have ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 z 256MB ,, but there is no option for this card
[17:32] <amrush_> genii.. ok I've set it to 'NTFS volume set'.. but still unallocated in gparted and can't be read in a file browser
[17:32] <gokorn> or what to chouse in the list ?
[17:32] <amrush_> genii .. should i reboot?
[17:34] <gokorn> anybody?
[17:36] <MachinatorSyver> anyone know what monitors would go black after about 10 minutes when powersaving in monitor & Display is disabled
[17:36] <MachinatorSyver> why rather than what I mean
[17:38] <genii> amrush_: No, do not reboot
[17:38] <genii> amrush_: Firstly. Close gparted
[17:38] <amrush_> genii .. ok
[17:38] <genii> amrush_: Did you exit fdisk with the W command, to write the changes?
[17:39] <llutz> MachinatorSyver: xset -dpms
[17:39] <amrush_> genii .. i will do that now
[17:39] <amrush_> genii .. done
[17:40] <MachinatorSyver> llutz: thanks
[17:40] <genii> amrush_: OK. Now after reloading gparted it should reflect the new changes. If not, THEN reboot. But only if gperted does not show what we did in fdisk
[17:40] <phoenixz> Where can I configure updatedb that it will NOT do an update every morning when I start up causing me having to wait until 1PM to finally be able to use my laptop?? Until that time, thanks to updatedb, my dualcore CPU is 99% in waits for the harddrive
[17:40] <amrush_> genii.. it changed back to ntfs, but still can't browse files ..
[17:42] <genii> amrush_: Close gparted. Then try to mount the partition as you would have previously
[17:45] <amrush_> genii.. mounted ......
[17:45] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[17:46] <doktoreas> anyone using beta 8.04, got some troubles with amarok?
[17:46] <amrush_> genii .. thanks i'm reviving my files .. thanks :D ...
[17:46] <doktoreas> it says that can't initialize xine engine
[17:47] <amrush_> genii: i guess i will need to mount it everytime i log, right ?
[17:47] <genii> amrush_: np :)
[17:47] <genii> amrush_: Yes, manual mounting now, or else make another entry as before in the /etc/fstab
[17:48] <amrush_> genii.. eh never mind .. i think i'm gonna delete it soon, i want to try another distros now :D ..
[17:48] <genii> amrush_: But my impression was that you were going to retrieve what you needed and then convert it ot linux or so, in that case it will make it's own mount entries etc etc
[17:49] <saraim_> bonjour
[17:49] <saraim_> est ce que quelqu'un parle français
[17:49] <saraim_> j'ai un probleme
[17:49] <amrush_> i'll do that some time later, i gotta go now .. many things to be retrieved so i won't mind it now ..
[17:49] <saraim_> svp
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <llutz> !fr | saraim_
[17:50] <ubotu> saraim_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> ola
[17:50] <alumno> sadasds
[17:50] <alumno> as
[17:50] <alumno> d
[17:50] <alumno> d
[17:50] <alumno> d
[17:55] <mifauna> hola
[18:15] <sola> help please...my internet conn working properly, but konqueror browser not detecting connection, any configuration required...
[18:23] <MachinatorSyver> anyone know why monitors will turn black after about 10 minutes with powersave in monitor & display disabled and xset -dpms not fixing it
[18:51] <User41950987> Hello, can someone recommend a virtual drive program simular to Daemon Tools, please?
[18:51] <Pici> Theres gisomount, I dont know of a kde equivalent.
[18:52] <Pici> !iso
[18:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:52] <User41950987> pici Thank you very much. :)
[19:03] <came0> Hello, I'm running hylafax on ubuntu server to act as my office's fax server.  It has a mail server (sendmail?) installed by default, and I see that the confimations from hylafax ("fax complete/failed") are going into the mail on that local machine.  Is there a config file I can set that will forward the mail from that account to my regular mail account (@gmail.com?)
[19:22] <MachinatorSyver> anyone know why monitors will turn black after about 10 minutes with powersave in monitor & display disabled and xset -dpms not fixing it
[19:27] <genii> MachinatorSyver: Perhaps try method suggested here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[19:30] <genii> came0: I think you need to set the email from or to address in the file described step 5 here http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/hylafax/
[19:35] <user1> "you are not permited to usb devices, check usbfs options"          ubuntu, guest windowsxp . i have followed http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/747  any help? none in #vbox
[19:39] <user1> Not permitted to open the USB device, check usbfs options.
[19:39] <user1> Result Code:
[19:39] <user1> 0x80004005
[19:39] <user1> Component:
[19:39] <user1> Console
[19:39] <user1> Interface:
[19:39] <user1> IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}
[19:42] <_ZeuZ_> guys, I'm receiving some segmentation faults, what can I do to correct them? besides fsck...
[19:42] <gokorn> what driver should i use for graphic, i have ati raedon mobility 1600
[19:42] <_ZeuZ_> guys, I'm receiving some segmentation faults, what can I do to correct them? besides fsck...
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> segmentation faults are usually due to programmer error
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> you can't usually fix them
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> (unless you're the programmer)
[19:43]  * combo - bede później
[19:43] <_ZeuZ_> lovely
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> though I dunno if bad RAM might cause them
[19:43] <_ZeuZ_> sometimes it works, som,ethimes it doesnt
[19:44] <_ZeuZ_> either way, now it gotta be something with Apport
[19:44] <karllenz> anyone here have any luck with the macbook and linux
[19:44] <gokorn> ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB this is the graphic card
[19:44] <karllenz> iv been using the wiki guide and just cant get it working
[19:50] <genii> _ZeuZ_: Memory segmentation sometimes results when it runs out of actual and virtual (swap space) ram. Perhaps check the size of your swap partition
[19:51] <_ZeuZ_> genii, 1gb swap memory
[19:51] <_ZeuZ_> and 1gb ram memory
[19:51] <_ZeuZ_> swappiness is not set to high
[19:58] <genii> _ZeuZ_: It will normally say something like: [apport] blahblah crashed with SIGSEGV      or so. What does the "blahblah" part read on yours?
[20:03] <tom--> hmm... i need to find a free nickname :P
[20:04] <tom--> is there an application with gui for managing the kubuntu firewall?
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> !firewall | tom--
[20:04] <ubotu> tom--: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[20:05] <tom--> Odd-rationale: thank you, Guarddog must be what i'm looking for
[20:15] <mixxu> i'm trying to make a kubuntu install memory stick but it does not boot. can anyone help me?
[20:16] <jussi01> mixxu: I assume you have followed the guide?
[20:16] <mixxu> what guide would that be :/
[20:16] <jussi01> !usb
[20:16] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:17] <jussi01> mixxu: ^
[20:17] <mixxu> yeah. i've read that and done it exactly like it says
[20:18] <mixxu> or i THINK i have. i do use slackware so i'm not a complete noob. bare with me. allthoug this is my first contact with kubuntu.
[20:18] <mixxu> the cd works fine but im installing on a pc that has a broken cd drive
[20:19] <jussi01> mixxu: does the pc have netaccess? you could try a net install
[20:19] <jussi01> !install | mixxu
[20:19] <ubotu> mixxu: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:20] <mixxu> i read quickly about the net install and it seemed a lot of work
[20:21] <mixxu> i see my pc reading the memory stick after bio post but it just says it cannot find a system to boot from
[20:22] <mixxu> i should have installed syslinux properly on it :/
[20:22] <jussi01> mixxu: wierd. Ive not played with those much so cant be of much help, sorry
[20:24] <mixxu> i guess i better stick to slackware :P
[20:27] <dwidmann> mixxu: do you have the boot flag set on your boot partition?
[20:28] <user1> any one using virtualbox puel and doing good with usb support?
[20:30] <user1> any one using virtualbox puel and doing good with usb support?
[20:30] <mixxu> dwidmann: oops. didn't check. is it on on default when making partitions with fdisk?
[20:31] <dwidmann> mixxu: I doubt it, yo ucan only set it on *one* partition
[20:31] <mixxu> there's only one on my mem stick
[20:31] <dwidmann> mixxu: check with fdisk or parted?
[20:32] <dwidmann> or somethign
[20:32] <mixxu> yeah
[20:32] <dwidmann> yeah you will or yeah the boot flag is on?
[20:35] <jackault> you are not permitted by law to put your boots on the flag.
[20:36] <aurelia> can i have the french adress, please
[20:37] <llutz> !fr | aurelia
[20:37] <ubotu> aurelia: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:37] <aurelia> thank you
[20:38] <mixxu> dwidmann: thanks, it was not on. still doesn't boot though
[20:38] <dwidmann> mixxu: hmm, that was enough to do it for my comp
[20:38] <mixxu> gives the same error, can't boot it
[20:38] <mixxu> so i guess it wasnt required. my problem is with something else
[20:42] <user1> any one using virtualbox puel and doing good with usb support?
[20:45] <mixxu> maybe i'll just quit trying. i get a working cd rom drive tomorrow anyway
[20:46] <emss> how do you disable konquerors scrollbars?
[20:46] <Captin1> I had installed KDE4 as per the site on 7.10, but when I removed, it I apparantly borked my KDE3.  Is there any way to reset that short of reinstalling from scratch?
[20:48] <emss> Captin1: sure, but I'm not sure how
[20:48] <spiroo> Is it possible to check which Kubunt version you have? I want to know if I have 64-bit or not :D
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> sudo dpkg --reconfigure <package>   <-- reconfigures packages
[20:49] <SlimeyPete> so it'l be --reconfigure kde3    or --reconfigure kubuntu-desktop    or something like that
[20:49] <ere4si> !version | spiroo
[20:49] <ubotu> spiroo: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[20:49] <spiroo> thanks
[20:49] <Captin1> SlimeyPete, I'll try that in just a moment
[20:50] <spiroo> ere4si: Does not say if I have 64-bit or not :P
[20:50] <SlimeyPete> spiroo: uname -a
[20:51] <Captin1> SlimeyPete, it doesn't know what --reconfigure is
[20:51]  * combo powrócił :D
[20:51] <SlimeyPete> Captin1: hrm sorry, sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[20:51] <spiroo> SlimeyPete: Not sure about this line :D : Linux spiroo-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:52] <spiroo> x86_64 :D
[20:52] <SlimeyPete> you have a 64-bit kernel
[20:52] <SlimeyPete> :)
[20:52] <spiroo> okay thanks :)
[20:52] <Captin1> now my error is that kde3 nor kubuntu-desktop is installed :[
[20:52] <Captin1> Hmmm
[20:53] <SlimeyPete> O.o no kubuntu-desktop?
[20:53] <SlimeyPete> b0rkage
[20:53] <SlimeyPete> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   then
[20:54] <Captin1> I do still have KDE there if I manually go startx
[20:54]  * combo bedzie później ;P
[20:54] <Captin1> And when I try I get errors on depenencies
[20:54] <SlimeyPete> try: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:54] <Captin1> such as "depends: kong-plugins but it is not going to be installed"
[20:55] <Captin1> is it safe to use -f?
[20:55] <Captin1> if that's the error?
[20:55] <Captin1> doesn't matter, -f didn't help
[20:55] <SlimeyPete> yes, it's safe. do a "sudo apt-get update" first.
[20:56] <Captin1> SlimeyPete, it didn't make a difference
[20:56] <Captin1> same errors
[20:56]  * genii wonders if netsplit is coming
[20:56] <TimS> genii: That was a net split :p
[20:56] <genii> TimS:Heh, thanks :) It was much more painful in #ubuntu
[20:56] <TimS> Ill bet
[20:57] <Captin1> any ideas?
[20:57] <SlimeyPete> Captin1: hrm, out of ideas then sorry
[20:57] <TimS> Usualy there are loads in here, but I guess Anthony is a small server ;p
[20:58] <user1> any one using virtualbox puel and doing good with usb support?
[21:00] <lovre> hi all
[21:00] <lovre> has any1 tried kde 4.0.2*
[21:00] <Captin1> It looks like I might be stuck using the PPA repository
[21:00] <lovre> is kubuntu 8.04 out yet?
[21:01] <llutz> user1: have you enabled ubfs?
[21:01] <Captin1> upon adding it back, I can install kubuntu-desktop
[21:01] <llutz> usbfs
[21:01] <user1> llutz i think yes. in the .sh file?
[21:01] <llutz> you should know, what you've done
[21:01] <user1> llutz by uncomenting 4 lines:?
[21:02] <user1> llutz "you are not permited to usb devices, check usbfs options"          ubuntu, guest windowsxp . i have followed http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/747  any help?
[21:03] <llutz> add a line "none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=XXXX,devmode=664 0 0"   where devgid the gid of vboxusers is, to your /etc/fstab
[21:04] <Super_BQ> i need some help on getting my Samba going on my Kubutun Xfce box
[21:04] <Super_BQ> it won't respond to my Windows box request after typing in the password
[21:05] <Captin1> Well I was able to reinstall it, but I still can't even get KDM to start, I'll type the error if you give me a moment.
[21:06] <dwidmann> Is there any 'easy' way to make a bootable usb drive, given a cd iso image? failing that is there a hard way?
[21:07] <user1> llutz i cant get what you mean. i have fstab opend
[21:07] <Captin1> it has some lines about kinit name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk......) = sda(something) and then trying to resume from that same path
[21:07] <Captin1> Then kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot
[21:08] <Captin1> and then no kdm
[21:08] <Super_BQ> has anyone had an issue with Firestarter GUI not loading up from an Ubuntu upgrade to Kubuntu XFCe?
[21:08]  * combo powrócił :D
[21:08] <Super_BQ> I think my Samba issue is due to Firestarter
[21:09] <Super_BQ> but since there's no GUI, how can I see what ports are opened?
[21:09] <SlimeyPete> sudo iptables -L
[21:09] <SlimeyPete> if it reports nothing, everything's open. Otherwise it'll print the raw firewall rules.
[21:10] <llutz> user1:"grep vboxusers /etc/group|cut -d : -f 3"
[21:11] <user1> what wil that do? llutz
[21:11] <llutz> give you the needed gid of vboxusers
[21:12] <Super_BQ> SlimeyPete: yeh it's got a bunch of entries
[21:12] <Super_BQ> but Firestarter could be the issue for blocking my Samba?
[21:13] <SlimeyPete> yes, it could be blocking samba
[21:13] <user1> llutz done
[21:13] <Super_BQ> SlimeyPete: can I message you?
[21:14] <SlimeyPete> you can, but it's usually best to discuss things in-channel, using a pastebin if necessary.
[21:14] <llutz> user1: add a line "none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=XXXX,devmode=664 0 0"   where XXXX the given gid of vboxusers is
[21:14] <SlimeyPete> that way everyone benefits
[21:15] <Super_BQ> when I type sudo iptables -L it comes up with a long list - too much to past here?
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> !pastebin | Super_BQ
[21:15] <ubotu> Super_BQ: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> use that
[21:15] <casper__> Hey i have a problem with pidgin in hardy. It does not flash on my taskbar when i recieve a message anymore. This causes me to overlook a lot of messages. Does anyone know how to make it do that? By the way im running KDE,
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> paste, save, then give us the URL
[21:15] <user1> llutz in the fstab file? i dont see any gid.
[21:16] <llutz> user1: you need to add that line
[21:17] <user1> ok.
[21:17] <Super_BQ> ok here goes
[21:17] <user1> llutz i have to replace xxxx?
[21:17] <llutz> user1:"grep vboxusers /etc/group|cut -d : -f 3"     gives you the value for "XXXX"
[21:18] <user1> k
[21:18] <Super_BQ> SlimeyPete: what Syntax do I choose?
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> Super_BQ: doesn't really matter
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> I think there's a "plain text" option isn't there? if so, use that
[21:19] <Super_BQ> yes I chose plain text
[21:19] <Super_BQ> ok sent
[21:19] <llutz> user1: "sudo mount -a"
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> right, now give us the url
[21:20] <user1> llutz these are the lst lines. UUID=a9753d34-3056-424c-a833-d5036712a777 none swap sw 0 0
[21:20] <user1> none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=119,devmode=664 0 0
[21:20] <Super_BQ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63460/
[21:20] <SlimeyPete> ok, reading it now
[21:23] <Super_BQ> note that I don't have much of an idea what it really  means - it's an upgrade from a previous Ubuntu OS so there may be duplications
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> Super_BQ: I think the netbios/microsoft-ds entries are samba-related. It looks like it's only accepting connections from IPs on the 10.0.0.x network
[21:23] <Super_BQ> yes that's my local
[21:23] <Super_BQ> should be ok?
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> yes, should be OK.
[21:24] <jhutchins_wk> !kde4
[21:24] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:24] <Kingflake> return the sled
[21:24] <Super_BQ> I also found it unusual in XFCe that the Firestarter GUI does not run
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> Super_BQ: try GuardDog instead?
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> it's the KDE equivalent, I believe
[21:26] <Super_BQ> completely remove Firestarter service 1st before installing GuardDog?
[21:26] <SlimeyPete> probably best.
[21:26] <Super_BQ> ok worth a try
[21:26] <Super_BQ> sudo aptget guarddog?
[21:26] <SlimeyPete> sudo apt-get guarddog, I think.
[21:26] <Super_BQ> or do I select it in the Synaptic Package?
[21:26] <SlimeyPete> either will d
[21:26] <SlimeyPete> *do
[21:30] <Super_BQ> Guard Dog does everything (ease to configure for torrent/ftp/vnc - etc. ports that I need) ?
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> so I hear. I don't use it myself (I use iptables if I need a firewall)
[21:31] <_ZeuZ_> anybody around to ask me why the hell is Kubuntu Hardy taking all my ram leaving only 11mb free? the rest seems to be buffered, but why not let it free?
[21:31] <Super_BQ> hah. under ADD/REMOVE Applications, it doesn't show Firestarter as installed - it does show Firefox :)
[21:32] <Super_BQ> is there a way I can stop the firewall to see if it really is blocking my Samba?
[21:32] <_ZeuZ_> Super_BQ, iptables -F FORWARD
[21:32] <_ZeuZ_> iptables -F INPUT
[21:32] <Super_BQ> k
[21:32] <_ZeuZ_> iptables -F OUTPUT
[21:32] <_ZeuZ_> iptables -X
[21:33] <_ZeuZ_> and then all rules would have been flushed
[21:34] <Super_BQ> ok and how do I check if it's completely flushed out?
[21:35] <_ZeuZ_> if you did that, doing iptables -L won't show rules
[21:36] <Super_BQ> yep it's blank
[21:36] <Super_BQ> so that should leave my Samba wide open ?
[21:36] <Super_BQ> and techincally, my windows box should see it?
[21:36] <Super_BQ> i double click the short cut and the password prompt comes up (good sign?)
[21:37] <_ZeuZ_> That depends, assuming that you configured it well, then it's a good sign, now give it the user details you configured and it's done
[21:38] <Super_BQ> hrm. when I directly type 10.0.0.1 (instead of the box name) it shows up in the browse
[21:39] <Super_BQ> comes up as Unknown (just below Workgroup) - I thought I had set it to Workgroup
[21:39] <_ZeuZ_> That means nothing in specific. and you have to set the WORKGROUP to your workgroup, not the the word workgroup
[21:39] <harmental> hey guys...how can I make a video capture a window?
[21:40] <Super_BQ> where in XFCe do I type in WORKGROUP ?
[21:40] <llutz> harmental: recordmydesktop, wink
[21:40] <harmental> llutz: they cannot record a single window i think....
[21:40] <Super_BQ> under "System -> Shared Folder"
[21:41] <llutz> harmental: oh sry, i thought they can
[21:41] <Super_BQ> it shows my folders that I want to share
[21:41] <_ZeuZ_> @google configure samba
[21:41] <_ZeuZ_> !samba | Super_BQ
[21:41] <ubotu> Super_BQ: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:42] <llutz> harmental: not very comfortable, but.... " recordmydesktop -x X_pos -y Y_pos -width WIDTH -height HEIGHT -o foo.ogg"
[21:47] <coggz> what video editing software should i use to edit mpg files?
[21:48] <coggz> i have lives (trying) kino (urm..) avidemux (didn't pickup aspect ratio)
[21:48] <Serega> Sergey_Galat: hey
[21:53] <coggz> anyone?
[21:54] <chemist109> coggz: kdenlive is almost usable.
[21:54] <coggz> hmm, i need useable, not for testing, this is a serious production. Thanks anyhow
[21:55] <kymap> hi all!
[21:55] <coggz> hi
[21:55] <kymap> plz say me! KDE database tool a.k.a OOo Base? what is it&
[21:56] <kymap> ?
[21:56] <coggz> kexi
[21:56] <coggz> !kexi
[21:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <kymap> thanks!
[21:57] <coggz> it is a db program, but OOo Base might be better
[22:02] <coggz> aha! cinelerra looks good for what i need!
[22:08] <jussi01> !cinelerra | coggz
[22:09] <ubotu> coggz: Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[22:09] <user1> llutz wow. its working.
[22:10] <llutz> user1: sure :)
[22:11] <jussi01> Is there a way in kmail to make a certain folders new messages not show up in the new message status in the systray? (ie. the spam folder)
[22:11] <jussi01> I dont really want to be notified when i get spam...
[22:11] <user1> llutz can you tell a bit what was it
[22:11] <user1> ?
[22:12] <jussi01> hm, nm, i think I found it
[22:12] <llutz> user1: at least you just changed permission of the usb-subsystem to make it usable for vbox
[22:13] <user1> llutz ic.
[22:13] <genii_> jussi01: I'd think something like Destination Folder
[22:13] <Super_BQ> ok i've sleuthed out my Samba issue
[22:13] <Super_BQ> works for guest so it's not a Firewall issue
[22:13] <user1> llutz what did grep vboxusers /etc/group|cut -d : -f 3 do?
[22:14] <llutz> user1: it just prints out the group-ID of vboxusers-group
[22:14] <jussio1> just a fyi, right click folder, properties, include this folder in mail checks.
[22:15] <user1> llutz oh oook
[22:16] <user1> llutz then i added none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=XXXX,devmode=664 0 0      as the bottom line of fstab and changed xxx to output i got from the above. what did that do?
[22:18] <llutz> user1: that's changing the permissions/ownership of the usb-subsystem to vboxusers (it's owned by root before)
[22:19] <llutz> user1: and because it was owned by root, you couldn't access usb-devices from virtualbox
[22:20] <user1> llutz oh. instead i could have did a chmod giving read/write rights to me (me user) of /proc/bus/usb
[22:21] <user1> llutz would that be worked too?
[22:21] <llutz> basically yes, but if you attach a new device, you always have to repeat that. not very handy
[22:21] <user1> oh ok
[22:22] <user1> llutz well thank you !
[22:22] <genii_> udev will always create the new devices as owned by root as the default
[22:22] <user1> llutz i see cdrom is mounted too. but theres no cd rom inserted yet.  previously flopy cdrom and usbs were auto mounted when inserted. any thing changed?
[22:24] <user1> llutz oh... the burner cdrom is enabled and is showing type subf and mmountpiont as /proc/bus/usb.......  this is wrong... isnt it?
[22:28] <user1> llutz ?
[22:36] <user1> llutz ?
[22:37] <Berzerker> how do I remove the screenshot shortcut (F11), I want to use it for yakuake?
[22:40] <Berzerker> anyone...here?
[22:40] <SlimeyPete> nope
[22:42] <Berzerker> SlimeyPete: do you know?
[22:42] <Berzerker> actually, never mind
[22:42] <SlimeyPete> Berzerker: there's a keyboard shortcuts setup menu in System Settings somewhere
[22:42] <SlimeyPete> under "keyboard" I think.
[22:43] <Berzerker> I was looking for it there, but I didn't find it
[22:43] <Berzerker> I found another solution though, thanks.
[22:51] <ganastasiou> hi everyone
[22:54] <user1> llutz that seems fine but usbfs is mounted twice, no idea if that can cause any problems
[22:54] <spiroo> Is it possible to re-organize the partition structure? Now I have sda1, sda2, but suddenly I got sda5 sda7, sda9. Is it possible to change it to sda1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 etc. This annoys me very much :D
[22:55] <Dr_willis> spiroo,  its how partitions work. first 4 PRIMARY partitiuons are 1 throiugh 4. any logical in a extended are 5+
[22:57]  * Mr_Pan is away: 
[22:58] <spiroo> Yes, but first I have sda1, sda2 but after that it just skipping 3-4 and starting with sda5.
[22:58] <Dr_willis> is sda2 a extended partition? if so its holding the logical partitions 5+
[22:58] <spiroo> no it isnt
[22:59] <Dr_willis> /dev/sda4           48410       48641     1863540    5  Extended
[22:59] <Dr_willis> /dev/sda5           48410       48641     1863508+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[22:59] <Dr_willis> My #4 is holding 5. note the same cylinder #'s
[22:59] <Dr_willis> I would double check fdisk -l output. and see.. Partitons just dont change from primary/logical :)
[23:00] <genii> Dr_willis: That sounds like an interesting issue
[23:00] <spiroo> fdisk -l does not work :D
[23:00] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu Meeting in 1 minute in #ubuntu-meeting
[23:01] <Dr_willis> spiroo,  use it with sudo
[23:01] <genii> spiroo: Use sudo
[23:01] <genii> heh tie
[23:01] <Dr_willis> since you wouldent want just a user fdisking the drives...
[23:02] <spiroo> ah okay, number three sda3 is an extended. But it does not explain where sda4 did go :D
[23:02] <Dr_willis> I imagine you did somthing with it.
[23:02] <Dr_willis> look under the couch?
[23:03] <spiroo> I guess I removed it for a long time ago. But is it possible to re-organize them?
[23:03] <spiroo> I will do ...
[23:04] <spiroo> So everyone got a step up in number sorting .D
[23:06] <Dr_willis> You can have 4 primaries # 1 theough 4, if any of them contain logical's  the logicals will be 5+
[23:06] <Dr_willis> If you want just 1 through 4. then just make primary partitions No extended/logicals
[23:08] <spiroo> I know, but now it should be: sda1, sda2, sda3(extended) => sda4, sda5, sda6, sda7
[23:08] <spiroo> but it is now: sda1, sda2, sda3 => sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8
[23:09] <Dr_willis> No it will not be sda4.. 4 is reserved for a primary that you did not create.
[23:09] <Dr_willis> you could have a primary past 3 if you wanted.
[23:09] <Dr_willis>  sda1, sda2,;  sda3 => sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8,    ; Sda4
[23:11] <spiroo> lol, okay I give up :D
[23:12] <spiroo> BTW, speaking of partitions, is is possible to label ext(2/3) partitions as you do with NTFS/FAT?
[23:12] <user1> why there is a need of trafic shapper .?
[23:17] <genii> user1: Different applications may have different bandwidth requirements. Also in a networked environment you may want some users to have faster access/priority than other users
[23:18] <user1> genii ic.. i can limit bands to apps and users. ?
[23:19] <genii> user1: Depending on what your needs are, yes
[23:20] <user1> or i can give the shaper control and manage. like some apps suck up all the speed and other apps dont run the net then. can a shaper auto manage that?
[23:22] <user1> genii i have some friends sharing my internet. i have 30k vacant and 3 friends. is there a way that i define the combine band limit for 3 users combined as 30 k . not 10k for each. that way if 2 are  online they can share 15k each. and if all 3 are online. they will be spreaded 10k each in managed behaviour. any way ?
[23:26] <sparr_> how can i change the filenames of many files from upper case to lower case?
[23:26] <RogueJediX> sparr_: Try KRename
[23:28] <genii> user1: I'd suggest a second ethernet card to whatever hub/switch they all use and then use wondershaper to allocate 30K to eth1 or similar
[23:28] <genii> user1: With connection sharing to them on that interface, etc
[23:30] <user1> genii yes thats what i do. but i have a dlink switch. and in futer i may take a fourth one and give him a dedicated 20k limit alone. so i need control
[23:33] <ken_> can someone help me /w sharing a printer ?
[23:33] <lindo> hi all
[23:33] <ken_> hi lindo
[23:33] <beener> i keep getting this error hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[23:34] <genii> ken_: Please state make/model and how it's connected (tcp printer, usb/parallel to a Win/linux/Mac box) , etc
[23:34] <beener> i just wiped the windows side and im wanting to use for more storege
[23:34] <lindo> just a question : today i login in my  linux box and i found root filesystem mouned ead only... in dmesg i found a lot of disk error like this:
[23:35] <lindo> Assertion failed! qc != NULL,drivers/scsi/libata-core.c,ata_pio_poll,line=2897
[23:35] <sparr_> "prename 'y/A-Z/a-z' *" yields "Unrecognized character \xE2 at (eval 1) line 1.", am I doing something wrong?
[23:35] <ken_> i have a hp 1610 printer. i'm running ubuntu and want to share with a win XP
[23:35] <lindo> ata1: command 0xb0 timeout, stat 0x80 host_stat 0x0
[23:35] <lindo> ata1: status=0x80 { Busy }
[23:35] <lindo> ATA: abnormal status 0x80 on port 0x9F7
[23:35] <lindo> some ideas ?
[23:36] <user1> genii yes thats what i do. but i have a dlink switch. and in futer i may take a fourth one and give him a dedicated 20k limit alone. so i need control
[23:36] <genii> user1: I'm not sure it's possible through the same interface. The simplest thing is to add another adapter ad do same process for him separately
[23:36] <genii> user1: I saw your reply the first time :)
[23:36] <user1> k
[23:36] <beener> so how do i mount it?
[23:37] <user1> genii can i ,in wondershaper, assing band combined to more than one ip?
[23:37] <genii> user1: I don't use it extensively. You need to find someone who knows more about that application than I do
[23:37] <genii> (or to read it's documentation, etc)
[23:38] <user1> k
[23:38] <user1> genii any channel you want me to go to?
[23:38] <ken_> oo and it's(hp printer) connected by usb
[23:38] <genii> user1: Not that I can think of offhand :)
[23:38] <user1> genii #networking
[23:39] <user1> ok
[23:39] <sparr_> make that "prename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *"
[23:39] <genii> ken_: And it's connected to/ your Kubuntu box and you want to share it with ...? (Linux/Windows/Mac/Internet users)
[23:40] <ken_> yes genii, i want to share it with an xp system
[23:42] <ken_> i don't know where to go to share printers
[23:43] <beener> so how would i got about mounting this partition?
[23:43] <genii> ken_: Unfortunately right now I don't have enough time to personally assist. I will try to find a good tutorial
[23:44] <ken_> thanks anyway genii...any help is great
[23:44] <rickest> beener: if you wiped it completely you'll probably want to initialize a new file system on it; i.e., ext3
[23:44] <ImLiz> hey all, I'm being denied copying one folder into another stating that "cannot stat 'all-20061022/*': No such file or directory"
[23:45] <ImLiz> when it's on my desktop, can anyone help?????
[23:45] <beener> i did already (ext3) now i just formated to fat32 just to see if that fixes it
[23:45] <lovre> hi all
[23:46] <lovre> i need some help. I have kubuntu. I would like to try out xfce, without breaking something... Can i easily do this and how?
[23:46] <ImLiz> any1 help, please
[23:47] <RogueJediX> lovre: Easy. Just get the xubuntu-desktop package
[23:47] <lovre> RogueJediX: and then i will be able to choose between kde and xfce on login?
[23:47] <RogueJediX> lovre: Yes
[23:48] <lovre> RogueJediX: ill try it. Thank you
[23:48] <RogueJediX> lovre: No prob
[23:48] <genii> ken_: Are you using only KDE or Gnome as well? I found a good Gnome tutorial but not one yet for KDE
[23:48] <lovre> while were at it, is kubuntu 8.04 out yet?
[23:48] <SlimeyPete> no, not yet
[23:48] <lovre> ok
[23:49] <RogueJediX> One more week
[23:49] <user1> I have 2 kernels in my grub menu.list how do I remove the old one from hardy plus from grub?
[23:49] <ImLiz> can any1 help with copying a folder on my desktop into a folder in my lib directory????
[23:50] <spiroo> lovre: I think it was 24 april it is going to be released
[23:50] <spiroo> or 28
[23:50] <RogueJediX> 24
[23:50] <beener> so what do i do know sence it is already in a file system
[23:50] <lovre> spiroo: ok thanx
[23:51] <lovre> ImLiz: cp?
[23:51] <spiroo> around one week left i guess :)
[23:51] <ImLiz> I tried yet it says that my desktop folder doesn't exist
[23:51] <lovre> ImLiz: sudo mv?
[23:51] <lovre> ImLiz: sudo cp?
[23:51] <lovre> restarting X, brb
[23:54] <beener> so what the error mean
[23:57] <beener> or how do i mount it
[23:58] <beener> right now its in a fat32 file system
[23:58] <ken_> genii...grome may work.....better then nothing
[23:59] <ken_> it'll get me started
[23:59] <genii> ken_: At any rate the link for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP