[04:10] <randomperson83> is there a way to detect whether you're running inside a hildon desktop?
[04:14] <StevenK> ToddBrandt: Still here?
[06:20] <bouncy`> lool: sure, good idea
[06:21] <bouncy`> thanks
[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[08:54] <lool> bouncy`: I think I heard about such a request already, but it was quite far away in terms of dates WRT our current level of busy-ness :)
[11:19] <slytherin> Who is maintaining bluez-utils these days?
[17:28] <foka_> Hi!  I'd like to join the Ubuntu Mobile development process.  How should I start?
[17:30] <foka_> What confuses me at this moment is that Ubuntu Mobile and Moblin are kind of one and the same, and yet not quite the same, and the mobile-related packages are currently somewhat behind in Ubuntu (reasonable, final stages of hardy freeze).
[17:31] <foka_> So, is it better to work with Moblin (since that appears to be the upstream)?  Or with Ubuntu Mobile (since that's the final product, esp. that is properly packaged meeting guidelines)?
[17:31] <foka_> Thanks!
[17:39] <agoliveira> foka_: Hi. Well, moblin is basically UME upstream to some components and it's controlled  by Intel so it's better to start on UME so you can have access to the whole deal, including PPA, upload, etc
[17:39] <agoliveira> foka_: What's used on UME core goes to moblin as well, BTW.
[17:47] <foka_> agoliveira, Thanks for your advice!  :-)
[17:59] <lool> rustyl__: call?
[18:03] <rustyl__> lool, about to call in
[18:03] <lool> Cool
[18:04]  * agoliveira had to enter 31 digits to join the conference... creepy :)
[18:49] <lool> rustyl__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/PpaVersioning
[18:49] <lool> inuka_desk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/PpaVersioning
[18:50] <slytherin> Can someone please sponsor debdiff attached to bug 191704? I had discussed this with Tollef sometime back, but I am not able to find him online today.
[18:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191704 in bluez-utils "hidd binary removed form bluez-utils package unable to connect as a result" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191704
[19:15] <landley> Watching David's talk.  He mentioned this channel...
[19:17] <lool> slytherin: I'm not in a particular position to test this, so I can't; perhaps StevenK is interested, and that's probably the only two persons around who can upload
[19:18] <slytherin> lool: It is almost midnight for me. Can you bug him on my behalf when he is available?
[19:19] <lool> StevenK: ^ 19:50 < slytherin> Can someone please sponsor debdiff attached to bug 191704? I 
[19:19] <lool> slytherin: Done :)
[19:19] <slytherin> :-)
[19:20]  * slytherin hits bed