| asac | fta: never used it before :) | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | fta: for me 1.2 looks good | 00:05 |
| asac | fta: which labels? | 00:05 |
| fta | really ? | 00:05 |
| asac | maybe i just don't know the real shiny miro ... who knows | 00:06 |
| asac | example? | 00:06 |
| asac | epimeteo: does the server send a proper mime-type? otherwise the server has to send a proper content-disposition header i guess or the url must have a proper filename extension | 00:07 |
| asac | fta: bug 192888 | 00:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888 | 00:07 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/192888/comments/44 | 00:08 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/192888/comments/45 | 00:08 |
| fta | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/miro.png | 00:09 |
| asac | thats indeed strange | 00:10 |
| asac | i don't have that | 00:10 |
| asac | but maybe thats because i don'thave that many labels | 00:10 |
| asac | looks like a bit like a bottom top wrap overflow :) | 00:10 |
| fta | even when you resize the left pane to a smaller size ? | 00:11 |
| asac | where are those displaced elements supposed to be? | 00:11 |
| fta | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/miro2.png | 00:13 |
| asac | currently it doesn't start at all anymore | 00:13 |
| asac | no idea whats up | 00:13 |
| asac | did i try something the other day` | 00:13 |
| asac | ? | 00:13 |
| asac | dbus error :/ | 00:13 |
| epimeteo | asac, the server is a drupal site. the file extention is correct in both link and file. About the mime-type, what do I have to edit in the server side? | 00:21 |
| asac | no idea ... shouldn't be required i guess | 00:21 |
| asac | if the rest is fine | 00:21 |
| epimeteo | ok, thanks asac | 00:22 |
| asac | epimeteo: you can look | 00:22 |
| asac | the file should be in /tmp/ while fileroller is open | 00:22 |
| asac | what kind of file is that? | 00:22 |
| fta | asac, removing libflashsupport never really helped me improve stability, but it sure broke my sound (pulseaudio) | 00:22 |
| epimeteo | let me see | 00:22 |
| asac | fta: the testers i had all saw improvement | 00:23 |
| asac | fta: for instance they could go back and forward as long as they liked (most of the times) on youtube | 00:24 |
| asac | while they couldn't do that with libflashsupport | 00:24 |
| asac | there is even a ticket open about this in libflashsupport bug tracker | 00:24 |
| asac | fta: http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/225 | 00:25 |
| fta | maybe but it never helped *me*, it still crashed a lot when i tried that | 00:26 |
| asac | fta: have a testcase to reproduce without libflashsupport? | 00:27 |
| asac | i couldn't reproduce anything reliably without it | 00:27 |
| epimeteo | asac, the file extention is ok in /tmp/, but neither tar or file-roller can open it. This is happening just with the broswer (FF from gutsy repos). if I use wget all works fine. | 00:27 |
| asac | epimeteo: try to rename it ... maybe its a tar.gz | 00:27 |
| fta | the url from last time. but apparently, it was that Xaa thing on nvidia only | 00:27 |
| asac | fta: oh ... could you fix that with disabling offscreen pixmaps too? | 00:28 |
| epimeteo | it is a tar.gz, asac. In the links, in the server, all .tar.gz. | 00:29 |
| asac | epimeteo: maybe your server gzips the stream | 00:30 |
| fta | asac, this ticket is closed/dupe | 00:30 |
| epimeteo | if it does, why the problem doesn't happen with wget? and who can I verify if the server gzips the stream (the website is mine, the tar file is created by a script). | 00:32 |
| asac | fta: thats the number i had in my head :) | 00:32 |
| epimeteo | *how | 00:32 |
| asac | epimeteo: what headers does your server send? | 00:34 |
| asac | paste them | 00:34 |
| epimeteo | how do I get the header? | 00:34 |
| asac | epimeteo: install the liveheaders extension from the hardy archive | 00:36 |
| epimeteo | ok | 00:36 |
| fta | or install libwww-perl and do: HEAD your_url | 00:37 |
| epimeteo | ok, I've istalled both. I tried what you said, fta. Don't know what to do with liveheaders. | 00:45 |
| Jazzva | epimeteo: start FF, go to Tools -> LiveHTTPHeaders, and then open the page... | 00:46 |
| fta | check Content-Type | 00:47 |
| epimeteo | Content-Type: application/x-gzip | 00:47 |
| fta | Jazzva, you should know i prefer CLI :) | 00:47 |
| fta | then most likely, ff will gunzip it on the fly | 00:48 |
| Jazzva | fta: Sure thing :), just answerd epimeteo's question :P | 00:48 |
| epimeteo | ok Jazzva i'll try that, thanks | 00:49 |
| epimeteo | fta, so it's ok? | 00:49 |
| epimeteo | why doesnt file-roller recognizes the tar file then? | 00:49 |
| fta | is the resulting file really a tar ? | 00:50 |
| Jazzva | epimeteo: no problem | 00:50 |
| epimeteo | I'm using it right now :) | 00:50 |
| epimeteo | fta, that's the problem. It is the file, name, extention and size, but file-roller nor tar can use it. | 00:51 |
| Jazzva | epimeteo: What's the fille? I would like to see and check... | 00:52 |
| Jazzva | *file | 00:52 |
| fta | what does "file yourfile" tells you ? | 00:52 |
| fta | -s | 00:52 |
| epimeteo | http://nonetdebs.unixpod.com/temp/1/var_lib_apt_lists.tar.gz | 00:53 |
| epimeteo | i cant see "file yourfile" anywhere :s | 00:54 |
| fta | file /tmp/var_lib* | 00:54 |
| epimeteo | var_lib_apt_lists.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix | 00:54 |
| fta | so it's still a gzip | 00:55 |
| fta | gunzip it and file the tar | 00:56 |
| fta | or just tar ztvf var_lib_apt_lists.tar.gz | 00:56 |
| Jazzva | Same here... though, it gunzips/untars perfectly... | 00:56 |
| Jazzva | (when I save it first) | 00:56 |
| epimeteo | so why file-roller nor tar can open it? | 00:57 |
| asac | fta: yeah its double gzipped :) | 00:57 |
| asac | but only on .gz :) | 00:57 |
| epimeteo | i'm doing something wrong? | 00:57 |
| asac | one | 00:57 |
| asac | epimeteo: paste a full header session | 00:57 |
| asac | not just the content-type | 00:57 |
| asac | e.g. what firefox sends and what it retrieves | 00:57 |
| epimeteo | from liveheaders? | 00:58 |
| asac | yes | 00:58 |
| asac | clear | 00:58 |
| asac | then download | 00:58 |
| asac | and paste everything ;) | 00:58 |
| asac | epimeteo: paste to paste.ubuntu.com | 00:59 |
| epimeteo | ok | 01:00 |
| fta | the file looks correct | 01:00 |
| fta | yet file-roller file:///tmp/var_lib_apt_lists.tar.gz doesn't like it | 01:00 |
| epimeteo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7156/ | 01:00 |
| epimeteo | it's just the click on the tar.gz link part. | 01:01 |
| epimeteo | you can try yourselfs: log on the site as "zzz" with "zzz" password and click "apt-get update" on the left side. Then, by the end of the page is the link. | 01:03 |
| asac | looks like ffox doesn't recognize gzip content-encoding | 01:04 |
| asac | most likely a bug then | 01:04 |
| asac | (except your server double encodes as well :)) | 01:05 |
| asac | epimeteo: disable gzip on server | 01:05 |
| asac | and see what happens | 01:05 |
| epimeteo | :s disable it? where? I'm not the owner of the server | 01:06 |
| epimeteo | just in the script? or in the apache server? or in htaccess? | 01:06 |
| asac | epimeteo: remove gzip from network.http.accept-encoding in about:config of firefox | 01:06 |
| epimeteo | ok | 01:06 |
| asac | epimeteo: no idea how to do that onserver side in your case | 01:06 |
| asac | its just for debugging | 01:07 |
| asac | epimeteo: what kind of server is that? | 01:11 |
| asac | DAV? | 01:11 |
| asac | can you please try if it works if you don't do that through mod_dav? | 01:11 |
| epimeteo | that's a drupal site | 01:12 |
| epimeteo | don't think it uses dav, but i don't really know | 01:12 |
| asac | epimeteo: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/netwerk/protocol/http/src/nsHttpChannel.cpp#882 | 01:12 |
| asac | thats how it is now ... that means that your behaviour is expected | 01:13 |
| asac | if your file has the .gz extension, firefox will just ignore the gzip encoding | 01:13 |
| asac | because in the past apache appeared to have send both though not gzipping .gz files :) | 01:13 |
| asac | so as long as you cannot reproduce this with a normal apache, you are lost | 01:14 |
| asac | the fix is most likely to disable content-encoding on drupal site | 01:14 |
| asac | server | 01:14 |
| asac | have fun :) | 01:14 |
| epimeteo | asac, I will :D | 01:15 |
| asac | epimeteo: just distribute .tar | 01:15 |
| asac | epimeteo: it will be about the same size streamed | 01:16 |
| asac | because your server appears to properly gzip the streams | 01:16 |
| asac | verfiy that the content-encoding is still gzip to rule out any crazy things :) | 01:16 |
| epimeteo | in the script I gzip the file but just give it a .tar extention? is that it asac ? | 01:17 |
| asac | epimeteo: and let me know if you have the same problem with plain apache install ;) | 01:17 |
| asac | epimeteo: no ... just tar. ... don't gzip | 01:17 |
| asac | the server will gzip it for you in stream :) | 01:17 |
| asac | epimeteo: or use bz2 ;) | 01:17 |
| epimeteo | oh, k | 01:17 |
| epimeteo | bz2 is GNU? | 01:18 |
| asac | no idea ;) | 01:18 |
| epimeteo | it is available in a fresh ubuntu nstall? | 01:18 |
| asac | yes | 01:18 |
| epimeteo | ok | 01:18 |
| epimeteo | thanks for all the help | 01:18 |
| asac | try tar cjvf /tmp/out.tar.bz2 /directory/to/tar/up | 01:18 |
| asac | :) | 01:18 |
| epimeteo | ok, ill try bz2 then :) | 01:19 |
| epimeteo | thank you all for all the help, asac fta Jazzva! | 01:19 |
| Jazzva | No problem :) | 01:20 |
| asac | Jazzva: i think app-install-data was uplaoded | 01:21 |
| Jazzva | yay :D | 01:21 |
| Jazzva | Works good *scared_of_review*? | 01:22 |
| asac | no idea ;) | 01:22 |
| asac | i started the extension dialog | 01:22 |
| asac | there is a list of extensions :) | 01:22 |
| asac | Jazzva: 26 :/ | 01:22 |
| Jazzva | Hmm ... I will go through them ... I think I removed some (for example, firefox-sage) from FF3-compat :) | 01:23 |
| * Jazzva on the phone | 01:23 | |
| epimeteo | worked 100% with .bz2! :D Thank you for this. Bye | 01:44 |
| Jazzva | Back ... asac, I didn't put correct MimeTypes in few desktop files ... I must have missed them. I'll correct it now :) | 01:45 |
| Jazzva | About mozilla-bookmarksftp ... I'm not sure if it's compat with FF3, but it's compat with FF2 ... I'll edit the Depends: line to add "| firefox-2". | 01:52 |
| Jazzva | The same goes for mozilla-noscript ... But that also means we should bump the maxVersion ... and I'm not sure if they really work (they're pretty old packages, afaict). Should we instead just make them depend on FF2, until we provide a newer package? | 01:54 |
| Jazzva | asac ^^ | 01:54 |
| asac | Jazzva: are they instlaled in ffox 3 directory? | 01:56 |
| Jazzva | (in order not to have frustrated users which install the extension and then discover it is unusable) | 01:56 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, lemme check | 01:57 |
| asac | Jazzva: -noscript has maxVersion 3b3 | 01:57 |
| Jazzva | I suppose they are in /usr/lib/firefox... | 01:57 |
| asac | yeah | 01:57 |
| asac | what does the wiki say about those :) ? | 01:58 |
| asac | noscript == missing details :/ | 01:58 |
| Jazzva | yeah ... I wasn't able to find it on amo... | 01:59 |
| asac | lol | 01:59 |
| asac | the mozgest guy is named "Joe Chen" on wiki :) | 02:00 |
| Jazzva | (though I forgot to check install.rdf for details *hides_away*) | 02:00 |
| asac | ok. think the noscript thing could be bumped | 02:01 |
| Jazzva | I think I just copy/pasted most of the known details from the old tables :) | 02:01 |
| asac | to 3.0.* | 02:01 |
| Jazzva | Aha... he's Jochen :) | 02:01 |
| asac | Jazzva: well ;) | 02:01 |
| asac | i don't think that thats true either | 02:01 |
| Jazzva | Hmm ... $DEITY bless aliases :) | 02:01 |
| asac | i only know that i never knew his name, but in about 10 mails he send me he always complained "my name is not Joe Chen" :) | 02:01 |
| asac | i never knew what he refers to and ignored it :) | 02:02 |
| asac | thought it was a mail signature joke thing or something :) | 02:02 |
| Jazzva | Well, amo reports Jochen :)... We should use that, right :)? | 02:02 |
| asac | no idea | 02:02 |
| asac | just remove it | 02:02 |
| asac | he is not a helpful upstream | 02:02 |
| Jazzva | Ok ... | 02:02 |
| asac | maybe just email: bugs@krickelkrackel.de | 02:03 |
| asac | :) | 02:03 |
| asac | Jazzva: which extensoin did we fix yesterday? | 02:04 |
| asac | well you fixed it | 02:04 |
| asac | i was supposed to upload today i guess | 02:04 |
| Jazzva | Hey, another thing ... Ubuntu QA contacts should subscribe to bug reports, right? | 02:04 |
| Jazzva | Umm ... lemme check :) (forgot)... | 02:05 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah. they should at least get the mail for their package :) | 02:05 |
| Jazzva | I think it's this one: bug 216494 | 02:05 |
| Jazzva | pretty sure :) | 02:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216494 in mozgest "all blank with mozgest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216494 | 02:05 |
| asac | yeah right :) Joe Chen's extension | 02:06 |
| Jazzva | heh :)... | 02:06 |
| Jazzva | hmmm | 02:06 |
| asac | ok added to my main desktop todo list too :) | 02:06 |
| Jazzva | never ming ... that one's bumped iirc :) | 02:06 |
| Jazzva | *mind | 02:06 |
| asac | Jazzva: so noscript ... does it work? | 02:07 |
| asac | with 3.0.* ? | 02:07 |
| Jazzva | Didn't check yet ... will do noow | 02:07 |
| * Jazzva multitasking low atm | 02:07 | |
| Jazzva | building | 02:08 |
| asac | Jazzva: bump maxVersion and add firefox-addons to directories in .links :) | 02:08 |
| asac | thats all for that update i guess | 02:08 |
| Jazzva | Ok ... to provide the diff (since it's old package)? | 02:09 |
| Jazzva | (old == no xpi.mk) | 02:09 |
| fta | http://browsing.justdiscourse.com/2008/04/16/the-future-of-firefox-extensions-make-them-more-like-web-apps/ | 02:09 |
| Jazzva | asac, there are also some packages which are not repackaged atm... I suppose they mostly depend on ff3, and not on ff2... (like this one :)) | 02:11 |
| asac | Jazzva: he? | 02:11 |
| asac | oh | 02:11 |
| asac | which? | 02:11 |
| Jazzva | mozilla-noscript :) ... | 02:12 |
| asac | well, we know that ;) | 02:12 |
| Jazzva | I think I saw a few more, but I'll have to check | 02:12 |
| fta | asac, /etc/firefox-3.0/firefoxrc is still no used, right? | 02:13 |
| fta | not | 02:13 |
| asac | yeah ... there is no use for it | 02:14 |
| Jazzva | Hmm .. /usr/share/mozilla-extensions is replaced with /usr/share/firefox-extensions? | 02:15 |
| Jazzva | *firefox-addons | 02:15 |
| asac | fta: ill remove it in final upload i have to do | 02:17 |
| fta | what about FIREFOX_DSP then N | 02:18 |
| fta | ? | 02:18 |
| asac | its not used. | 02:18 |
| asac | do you use /dev/dsp? | 02:19 |
| fta | no, pulse audio | 02:21 |
| asac | it was only helpful for dsp wrappers | 02:21 |
| fta | but only because i have flash support | 02:21 |
| asac | and alsa? | 02:22 |
| fta | my sound setup is almost ok | 02:23 |
| fta | i just don't have sound in nexuiz if i've played a flash sound in ff3 before. I need to kill ff3 and restart nexuiz* | 02:24 |
| asac | even with flashsupport? | 02:24 |
| asac | does nexuiz use pulse server? | 02:24 |
| asac | or does it try to bypass that? | 02:25 |
| fta | yes | 02:25 |
| fta | i don't know | 02:25 |
| fta | i don't know | 02:25 |
| asac | yeah mostlikely it uses plain alsa then | 02:25 |
| asac | i don't think there is a chance to fix that then | 02:25 |
| asac | maybe there is a pulse plugin for also | 02:26 |
| asac | alsa | 02:26 |
| asac | i read something about that | 02:26 |
| Jazzva | Can't make it work tonight ... I'll play with it tomorrow, too tired to think *sighs*. | 02:26 |
| asac | Jazzva: on what are you working? | 02:26 |
| asac | Jazzva: i can do noscript .) | 02:26 |
| Jazzva | mozilla-noscript links and install | 02:26 |
| asac | better fix the data package ;) | 02:26 |
| Jazzva | Then I'm lost :) | 02:26 |
| Jazzva | ok | 02:27 |
| Jazzva | what about packages I didn't test (mozilla-bookmarksftp)? Should I leave them as FF2 compat only? (users may install it, and then find out it doesn't work (it's a possibility)) | 02:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: bug 217988 | 02:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217988 in mozilla-noscript "(ffox3 not working) not installed in firefox-addons/extensions and maxVersion to low for latest firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217988 | 02:29 |
| asac | fix attached | 02:29 |
| asac | Jazzva: data-package should only move things to ffox 3 if tested | 02:30 |
| asac | if its broken for ffox 2 then its not a problem :) | 02:30 |
| asac | we can fix it later | 02:30 |
| asac | or now ;) | 02:30 |
| Jazzva | Looked at bug ... I'm stupid, or tired, or both :) | 02:30 |
| asac | :) | 02:31 |
| asac | thats ok ;) | 02:31 |
| asac | i have no overview about whats going on with extensions in general right now ... probably not better at all ;) | 02:31 |
| Jazzva | Probably it is :) | 02:32 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok ill upload bookmark thing with firefox-2 | 02:32 |
| asac | (not firefox) | 02:32 |
| asac | we can provide updates through backports if things improve | 02:32 |
| Jazzva | Ok, I made it FF2 in data | 02:32 |
| asac | or -updates for the most important extensions | 02:33 |
| asac | thanks | 02:33 |
| Jazzva | No problem ... diggler will be set for 2 too, it's compat is 2.0.0.*, and not tested for 3 | 02:34 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok uploaded both | 02:40 |
| asac | bug 217991 | 02:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217991 in bookmarksftp "only compatible with ffox2" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217991 | 02:40 |
| Jazzva | thanks :) | 02:40 |
| Jazzva | I think there is more ... mozilla-diggler (should depend on ff-2), mozilla-imagezoom (should depend on thunderbird also), mozilla-nukeimage (should depend on ff-2) | 02:41 |
| Jazzva | :) | 02:41 |
| Jazzva | But we can do it tomorrow/the day after tomorrow, right? | 02:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: noscript appears to not even been installed for firefox2 | 02:41 |
| Jazzva | Wow... that's weird ... it was in the archives before :) | 02:42 |
| asac | yeah it was a blind debian sync | 02:42 |
| Jazzva | heh | 02:42 |
| asac | no updates available for those? | 02:42 |
| Jazzva | They are replaced ... diggler => neodiggler (first was abandoned, someone picked up from there, iirc) | 02:43 |
| Jazzva | nukeimage => nukeanything (pretty inventive, huh?) | 02:43 |
| Jazzva | and imagezoom is fine, it is just also supported in tb | 02:44 |
| Jazzva | (so is said in the info page, iirc) | 02:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: diggler uploaded | 02:48 |
| asac | bug 217993 | 02:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217993 in diggler "not installed for any firefox and not compatible with ffox 3 yet" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217993 | 02:48 |
| Jazzva | wow, you're fast :) | 02:48 |
| Jazzva | I would like to do a transition from nukeimage => nukeanything, if that's ok :)... Haven't made a dummy package before... Just want to try that too :) | 02:51 |
| Jazzva | asac, pushed app-install-data-ubuntu http://code.launchpad.net/~jazzva/app-install-data-ubuntu/ubuntu.mozilla-extension | 02:53 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok nukeimage uploaded too | 02:54 |
| asac | bug 217996 | 02:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217996 in nukeimage "only compatible with ffox 2" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217996 | 02:54 |
| Jazzva | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/app-install-data-ubuntu/ubuntu.mozilla-extensions | 02:54 |
| Jazzva | typo | 02:54 |
| asac | Jazzva: is that based on the lastest branch or on your branch? | 02:54 |
| Jazzva | merged with the latest | 02:55 |
| Jazzva | and then added corrections | 02:55 |
| Jazzva | (~ubuntu-core-dev's latest) | 02:55 |
| asac | ah ok | 02:55 |
| asac | Jazzva: whats missing still? | 02:56 |
| Jazzva | I think that's pretty much it. There are those transitions that need to be made. I think that all extensions that were packaged with bzr and most (not sure if all) that were already in the archives are included | 02:57 |
| Jazzva | Will have to go through wiki list tomorrow, and to recheck :) | 02:57 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok ill wait for that before asking for another merge | 02:58 |
| Jazzva | Ok.. | 02:58 |
| asac | cool :) .... night now! | 02:58 |
| Jazzva | I'm off ... be back in the evening :) | 02:58 |
| asac | n8 | 02:58 |
| Jazzva | Good night... :) | 02:58 |
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| Mirv | asac: are the (first) firefox language packs making it to the RC or after it? | 13:11 |
| asac | Mirv: fi will be in | 13:18 |
| asac | Mirv: i uploaded manual langpacks for de,es,fr,pt,fi and ja now | 13:20 |
| asac | those should be available in a few hours | 13:20 |
| asac | bug #210449 | 13:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 210449 in network-manager-applet "GNOME icons for nm-applet" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210449 | 13:22 |
| Mirv | asac: cool! and nice to see three more languages ready (fr, pt, ja) | 13:26 |
| asac | Mirv: three? | 13:29 |
| asac | six in total | 13:29 |
| asac | Mirv: and if you install RC cd you will get all languages on next day :) | 13:30 |
| asac | Mirv: langpacks accepted | 13:30 |
| asac | should be available on next push run | 13:30 |
| Mirv | asac: yeah, three _more_ in addition to the previous three :) | 13:40 |
| asac | hee | 13:41 |
| asac | Mirv: well ... thoser are created from .xpi :/ | 13:41 |
| asac | e.g. not whitelisted | 13:41 |
| jetsaredim | asac: is there a doc that can give me the 2 minute refresher on updating a package for new upstream - I hate to trouble you for another explanation | 14:30 |
| asac | jetsaredim: 1. update .upstream branch. | 14:31 |
| asac | 2. cd .ubuntu branch | 14:31 |
| asac | 3. bzr merge /path/to/upstream/branch | 14:31 |
| asac | dch -vNEWUPSTREAMVERSION-0ubunu1 -DUNRELEASED | 14:31 |
| asac | 4. ^^ | 14:32 |
| asac | 5. edit changelog | 14:32 |
| asac | 5 bzr commit -m "* merge NEWUPSTREAMVERSION from .upstream branch" | 14:32 |
| asac | done | 14:32 |
| asac | next testbuild, fix package and so on | 14:32 |
| asac | when done: | 14:32 |
| asac | dch -r | 14:32 |
| asac | bzr commit -M "* RELEASE NEWUPSTREAMVERSION-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/intrepid" :) | 14:32 |
| asac | or something lik ethat | 14:32 |
| asac | sry, bzr commit -m "* RELEASE NEWUPSTREAMVERSION-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/intrepid" :) | 14:33 |
| asac | jetsaredim: maybe you can add those steps to a wiki page ;) | 14:34 |
| asac | so i don't need to repeat them ;) | 14:34 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 14:35 |
| asac | i think its not documented anywhere | 14:35 |
| jetsaredim | good idea | 14:35 |
| asac | jetsaredim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/Bzr | 14:35 |
| asac | use that page | 14:35 |
| asac | and add a section: upstream upgrades with bzr :) | 14:35 |
| asac | jetsaredim: i have updated the XPI.TEMPLATE changelog ... it now documents the right procedure on when to bump version, how to use dch and so on | 14:36 |
| asac | in case you are interested.... take a look | 14:36 |
| jetsaredim | nice | 14:36 |
| jetsaredim | ok | 14:36 |
| jetsaredim | will do | 14:36 |
| asac | thanks | 14:36 |
| asac | jetsaredim: ah | 14:37 |
| asac | one more thing | 14:37 |
| asac | jetsaredim: can you edit your branches that we pushed to ~ubuntu-dev | 14:37 |
| asac | and mark them "as merged" | 14:37 |
| asac | you can do that in launchpad in "edit branch details" (on the right)" | 14:37 |
| jetsaredim | o yea | 14:37 |
| jetsaredim | yea | 14:37 |
| asac | jetsaredim: doing that will make them disappear from the branch list of firefox-extensions | 14:37 |
| asac | thanks | 14:37 |
| jetsaredim | do I even need them anymore? | 14:37 |
| asac | jetsaredim: they will disappear ... when you want to update you should start with the ~ubuntu-dev right | 14:38 |
| jetsaredim | right | 14:39 |
| jetsaredim | or the source package | 14:39 |
| jetsaredim | (which should be the same) | 14:39 |
| asac | jetsaredim: no please start with bzr | 14:39 |
| asac | otherwise it will diverge and thats a huge mess :) | 14:39 |
| jetsaredim | okie dokie | 14:39 |
| asac | source package is gone when using bzr | 14:39 |
| asac | thanks | 14:39 |
| fta | asac, mozilla bug 428563 | 15:13 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 428563 in GFX: Thebes "Upgrade Cairo to 1.6.4" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428563 | 15:13 |
| Venus_Mars | there is a site which say vector rendering not supported. supported renderers are svg vml | 15:13 |
| Venus_Mars | what could be the problem? | 15:13 |
| Venus_Mars | Helloooo | 15:16 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: which site? | 15:16 |
| Venus_Mars | asac: http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/navigator2_gis/Main | 15:16 |
| Venus_Mars | iam using firefox 2.0.0.12 | 15:17 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: yeah same for ffox 3 | 15:18 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: i'd say that its a bogs site | 15:18 |
| asac | svg should work :) | 15:18 |
| Venus_Mars | what is a bogs site? | 15:18 |
| jetsaredim | Venus_Mars: do you know how this site is determining that you don't have svg support? | 15:19 |
| Venus_Mars | Its says Supported rendering are SVG VML | 15:19 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: the site was probably implemented by people that don't have anything else than IE in mind. | 15:20 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: thats bogus | 15:20 |
| asac | e.g. lame website developers ;) | 15:20 |
| jetsaredim | yea thats sorta what I was getting at | 15:20 |
| Venus_Mars | please! Its maintained by my professor! | 15:20 |
| jetsaredim | they may just be seeing that you aren't running ie or checking some other param and seeing its not what they were looking for | 15:21 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: yeah ;) an academic title isn't important in real life ;) | 15:21 |
| Venus_Mars | Okie then please suggest a way to overcome it! | 15:21 |
| Venus_Mars | Atleast we don't pass such comments on them! | 15:21 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: no idea. we are no web developers here. maybe ask on #web | 15:22 |
| jetsaredim | it depends on how he's determining that your browser doesn't support those types | 15:22 |
| asac | 1st. what format is that site trying to ship to the browser? | 15:22 |
| asac | the error box doesn't tell anything about that | 15:22 |
| asac | i have the feeling its using a windows only technology | 15:24 |
| asac | WMS? | 15:24 |
| asac | maybe thats it? | 15:24 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: looks like it tries to use WMS format | 15:25 |
| asac | thats not a standard format and probably only works on windows if you have google earth installed | 15:25 |
| asac | but unless you know which formet its really using we cannot help | 15:26 |
| asac | sorry | 15:26 |
| Venus_Mars | okie no problem! I ll try to come again with what tech they are using | 15:26 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: they use openlayers. question is what else ;) | 15:27 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: look in the maling list archive of openlayers.org | 15:29 |
| asac | Venus_Mars: either this is a bug ... or you have to use the latest version of openlayers ... or you will certainly find someting in there | 15:29 |
| asac | you can even eask on that mailing list as well if their demo shows the same behaviour | 15:29 |
| fta | that code looks weird... | 15:33 |
| fta | if(!this.renderer||!this.renderer.supported()){this.assignRenderer();} | 15:33 |
| fta | if(!this.renderer||!this.renderer.supported()){this.renderer=null;this.displayError();} | 15:33 |
| Venus_Mars | okie what is supposed to be over there? | 15:35 |
| asac | if anyone helps you here its fine, but we are in general not into fixing websites ;) | 15:36 |
| Mirv | asac: langpacks are in and they work! | 15:39 |
| asac | Mirv: thanks for confirming | 15:40 |
| asac | jetsaredim: will you update the firebug branch fo rb12? | 15:44 |
| jetsaredim | asac: should be able to do it today | 15:49 |
| asac | jetsaredim: ok let me know. id like to update it right after RC is out | 15:50 |
| jetsaredim | which is when? | 15:51 |
| asac | jetsaredim: today | 15:52 |
| asac | aeh tomorrow morning ;) | 15:52 |
| jetsaredim | k | 15:52 |
| jetsaredim | brb | 15:53 |
| asac | mozilla bug 356370 | 16:15 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 356370 in Extension/Theme Manager ""installLocation has no properties" during install/update of extensions (line 3849/_getActiveItems)" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356370 | 16:15 |
| asac | bug 217988 | 16:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217988 in mozilla-noscript "(ffox3 not working) not installed in firefox-addons/extensions and maxVersion to low for latest firefox" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217988 | 16:23 |
| xhaker | hmm | 17:05 |
| xhaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453 | 17:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 198453 in alsa-lib "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [High,Confirmed] | 17:05 |
| xhaker | i'd bet this is the reason firefox crashes alot on youtube, etc | 17:05 |
| xhaker | what would you say asac ? | 17:05 |
| asac | xhaker: no. the crashes are mostly due to libflashsupport | 17:07 |
| asac | which we need in order to make it use pulseaudio | 17:07 |
| asac | so its related | 17:07 |
| asac | however, that plugin doesn't help for flash as it uses async alsa ... which is afaict not supported by that plugin | 17:07 |
| asac | xhaker: can you please try? | 17:07 |
| asac | xhaker: you need to move /usr/lib/libflashsupport.so away forcefully to make flash use alsa again | 17:08 |
| asac | the next flashplugin update will remove tight dependencies on libflashsupport which was a joke idea anyway :) | 17:09 |
| asac | but to test you can just move that lib away | 17:09 |
| xhaker | asac: sure | 17:13 |
| xhaker | will libflashsupport move to suggest, or disappear from the control file? | 17:15 |
| asac | xhaker: to suggest | 17:31 |
| asac | personally i'd love to remove that crap thing completely, but there were voices that said "its useful even though it crashes" | 17:31 |
| xhaker | seems to fix the "crash due to concurrent flash audio" | 17:38 |
| xhaker | i've even rappidly built a local package for cleanless points | 17:38 |
| xhaker | s/cleanless/cleanliness | 17:39 |
| asac | xhaker: what fixes the crash? | 17:40 |
| asac | i know that removeing libflashsupport fixes these crashes | 17:40 |
| asac | howver i am not sure if the also plugin for pulse works | 17:40 |
| xhaker | alsa plugin for pulse? (sorry for the lag in responding, my connection was lost to the server where irssi is) | 17:46 |
| xhaker | i've just removed libflashsupport | 17:46 |
| xhaker | moved it to Suggests for flashplugin | 17:46 |
| xhaker | i can certainly investigate more | 17:47 |
| xhaker | let me see if i can get an idea from the bug report i mentioned earlier | 17:49 |
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| xhaker | asac: removing libflashsupport seems to be the only thing that really works | 18:11 |
| asac | xhaker: you did post a bug that suggests to add a pulse plugin to alsa setup | 18:12 |
| asac | xhaker: this is not about libflashsupport. you have to trash that anyway to get a stable environment | 18:13 |
| asac | xhaker: 18:05 < ubotu> Launchpad bug 198453 in alsa-lib "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [High,Confirmed] | 18:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 198453 in alsa-lib "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198453 | 18:13 |
| xhaker | it might have last more before crashing with libasound2-plugins installed, asoundrc and even FLASH_FORCE_PULSEAUDIO=1 | 18:13 |
| asac | xhaker: i am not interested in crash experience | 18:14 |
| asac | those happen with flashsupport | 18:14 |
| asac | dump that and then see if you can play rhythmbox + flash sound at the same time | 18:14 |
| asac | if you use the pulse audio plugin for the default alsa device ;)= | 18:14 |
| asac | (which hopefully is the idea of that bug) | 18:14 |
| xhaker | ahh, i thought you were trying to keep libflashsupport because some people thought it was valuable, and wanted me to check if there was some configuration that enabled that | 18:15 |
| asac | xhaker: no thats a different story | 18:15 |
| asac | i have decided on libflashsupport already. i am now intereested in improving the user experience without libflassupport :) | 18:15 |
| xhaker | noted :D | 18:16 |
| asac | xhaker: can you test that? | 18:16 |
| asac | e.g. fire up rhythmbox ... and play music | 18:17 |
| asac | then test if flash still works on you tube :) | 18:17 |
| xhaker | no libflashsupport + pulse alsa device + firefox = no sound | 18:31 |
| xhaker | i don't know if i'm doing everything right but i should. | 18:32 |
| xhaker | the pulse device is there.. rhythmbox plays, firefox does not | 18:33 |
| xhaker | the sound i mean | 18:33 |
| xhaker | but gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! alsasink -> works | 18:33 |
| xhaker | asac: want me to test anything more? | 18:45 |
| xhaker | flash doesn't seem to be able to use the pulse plugin for alsa | 18:45 |
| xhaker | even without any other app playing | 18:45 |
| asac | xhaker: no makes sense. that matches my expectations | 19:07 |
| asac | xhaker: yes. the pulse plugin for also supports only sync alsa calls, but flash appears to use async ones | 19:08 |
| asac | thanks! | 19:08 |
| xhaker | asac: it certainly boggled my mind.. i was left thinking i was doing something wrong | 19:08 |
| xhaker | for some minutes atleast.. then i started being creative.. changing firefoxrc DSP | 19:09 |
| asac | xhaker: firefoxrc is a hoax | 19:12 |
| asac | its not used anymore | 19:12 |
| xhaker | ok, that certifies my creativity as top notch | 19:13 |
| asac | ;) | 19:13 |
| xhaker | asac: i seem to have found something that works | 19:13 |
| xhaker | let me try to explain | 19:14 |
| asac | ? | 19:14 |
| xhaker | you can get flash sound and rhythmbox withe the following config | 19:14 |
| asac | xhaker: i am off getting some food (~20min i guess) | 19:15 |
| asac | go ahead | 19:15 |
| asac | ill read when i return | 19:15 |
| xhaker | 1. pulse audio plugin and correponding .asoundrc | 19:15 |
| xhaker | 2. libflashsupport installed | 19:15 |
| xhaker | 3. run firefox forcing libflashsupport to use ALSA | 19:15 |
| xhaker | with: FLASH_FORCE_ALSA=1 firefox | 19:16 |
| xhaker | didn't crash yet.. and i'm listening to music on rb | 19:16 |
| asac | xhaker: before i go: try the test case in summary of bug 192888 | 19:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888 | 19:17 |
| asac | if that doesn't crash we might look closer | 19:17 |
| xhaker | asac: with force alsa it might crash if you repeat the test case 5+ times | 19:22 |
| xhaker | with pulse it crashes right way the first time | 19:23 |
| xhaker | i can have 2-3 pages playing concurrently, more than that it gets sloppy | 19:26 |
| asac | bug 202174 | 19:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202174 in abiword "Please update to version 2.6" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202174 | 19:37 |
| asac | xhaker: thats interesteing ... i build flashsupport with explicit ALSA support. and it even crashed more frequently | 19:38 |
| xhaker | asac: did you try that build + modified .asoundrc ? | 19:45 |
| xhaker | with libasound2-plugins installed of corse | 19:45 |
| xhaker | asac, care to try with the cconfiguration i proposed? it crashes less, and you get sound from rb and flash at the same time aswell | 20:10 |
| xhaker | proposed as in "think will work better" | 20:17 |
| asac | xhaker: well. if the testcase still crashes its definitly worse than having sound problems | 20:19 |
| asac | mozilla bug 419116 | 20:20 |
| asac | debian bug 419116 | 20:20 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 419116 in MailNews: Composition "Sending mail through SMTP server that doesn't require user:pass fails" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419116 | 20:20 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 419116 in muttprint "muttprint: possible to remove depends on texlive-latex-extra?" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/419116 | 20:20 |
| asac | mozilla bug 411025 | 20:29 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 411025 in JavaScript Engine "GC hazard in JS_CompileUCFunctionForPrincipals" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411025 | 20:30 |
| asac | mozilla bug 417617 | 21:00 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 417617 in DOM "DOMParser.parseFromString in Greasemonkey script causes "ASSERTION: Should have inner window here!"" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417617 | 21:00 |
| xhaker | asac: i'm getting another type o crash now. | 21:02 |
| xhaker | ** Gtk:ERROR:(/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.12.9/gtk/gtkplug.c:182):gtk_plug_set_is_child: assertion failed: (!GTK_WIDGET (plug)->parent) | 21:02 |
| xhaker | Aborted (core dumped) | 21:02 |
| xhaker | ctrl + click on 3 youtube page links fast to reproduce | 21:05 |
| asac | xhaker: do you still use libflashsupport? | 21:20 |
| xhaker | nope | 21:20 |
| asac | hmm | 21:20 |
| asac | i think its the bug where parent is NULL | 21:20 |
| asac | i found the patch that caused this upstream, but its not clear why its happening | 21:21 |
| asac | mozilla bug 368428 | 21:28 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 368428 in Networking: JAR "XUL FastLoad cache corruption when application running while upgrading" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368428 | 21:28 |
| geser | Hi, is there a way to disable the firefox3 extensions from the command line? | 21:52 |
| geser | FF3 crashes for me and I suspect it's one of my extensions | 21:52 |
| geser | looks like only extensions.cache was broken. after removing that file FF3 works for me again. | 21:57 |
| asac | geser: -safe-mode | 22:05 |
| asac | hmm | 22:05 |
| asac | you can disable extensions by starting firefox -safe-mode | 22:06 |
| asac | for the future | 22:06 |
| RzR | geser: -g could help also | 22:17 |
| asac | RzR: do you know our mobile browser? | 22:33 |
| RzR | asac: hi asac , minimo ? | 22:33 |
| asac | no ;) | 22:33 |
| asac | http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git | 22:33 |
| RzR | i thought this was stuck | 22:33 |
| asac | midbrowser | 22:33 |
| asac | its in the hardy archive. did you ever play around with xephyr? | 22:34 |
| RzR | watching http://www.moblin.org/ItsYourMoveNext_video.php | 22:34 |
| asac | huh ... there is a video? | 22:34 |
| RzR | btw i'll show you something | 22:34 |
| RzR | marketing crap video :) | 22:35 |
| RzR | asac:http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/16/enkin-digitized-signage-for-your-android-device/ | 22:36 |
| RzR | i worked on a similar stuff in 3d | 22:36 |
| asac | what is android device? | 22:37 |
| asac | RzR: ß | 22:37 |
| asac | ? | 22:37 |
| RzR | asac: when i was on AR devices we uses HTC ones | 22:38 |
| RzR | used | 22:38 |
| RzR | or tablets pc | 22:39 |
| RzR | well it's late we talk about this soon or later :) | 22:39 |
| RzR | we'll | 22:40 |
| asac | ah ok | 22:40 |
| asac | cu then | 22:40 |
| RzR | bye bye and good luck for release | 22:41 |
| asac | thanks! | 22:41 |
| RzR | the hardest part is behind i suppose ? | 22:41 |
| asac | for me i hope so | 22:41 |
| asac | but you never know ;) | 22:41 |
| RzR | ben generally when 99% of the job is done 99% of the effort is needed for the remaining 1% | 22:41 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 22:42 |
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| tymofiy | asac, hello | 22:42 |
| asac | hi tymofiy | 22:43 |
| tymofiy | I send translation and start page | 22:43 |
| tymofiy | is all fine? | 22:44 |
| asac | tymofiy: where? | 22:45 |
| asac | when? | 22:45 |
| tymofiy | check mail | 22:45 |
| tymofiy | this morning or so. | 22:45 |
| asac | subject? | 22:46 |
| asac | tymofiy: sorry. i am not sure. can you tell me the subject of the mail so i can search my inbox? | 22:46 |
| tymofiy | Firefox Ukrainian in mozilla-firefox-locale-all | 22:47 |
| tymofiy | actually added one more reply | 22:47 |
| tymofiy | it was short: | 22:48 |
| tymofiy | Translated. | 22:48 |
| tymofiy | Start page filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/216982 | 22:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216982 in ubuntu-docs "Ubuntu firefox start page not translated into Ukrainian (uk)" [Undecided,New] | 22:48 |
| asac | tymofiy: thanks. did send a mail as well? | 22:50 |
| tymofiy | yes, it was sent as a one more reply to the discussion we had started on fall 2007 | 22:51 |
| asac | tymofiy: the online page can probably be added once this was signed off by the uk translators and the doc team. | 22:51 |
| asac | tymofiy: the offline page probabyl cannot go into hardy anymore. | 22:51 |
| asac | i have no say on the doc package | 22:51 |
| tymofiy | I am now one of admins of uk team, where do I sign? | 22:51 |
| asac | however, i am sure that firefox gets uk translation now | 22:51 |
| tymofiy | great! | 22:52 |
| asac | tymofiy: i am not sure if you can review your own submissions :) | 22:53 |
| asac | but that is something the translation team can define | 22:53 |
| asac | maybe ask another team member to ackknowledge this | 22:53 |
| asac | otherwise you can just state in the bug that you are part of the translation team and that you sign this off | 22:53 |
| asac | tymofiy: but i am sure that it has more weight if you get a peer review ;) | 22:53 |
| asac | mdke: ^^ | 22:54 |
| asac | awake? | 22:54 |
| mdke | asac: yes, you caught me just when I happened to be at the computer | 22:54 |
| asac | do you have any idea about how this works? maybe you can guide tymofiy to get this in? | 22:54 |
| asac | ;) | 22:55 |
| asac | mdke: bug 216982 | 22:55 |
| mdke | asac: as we discussed yesterday the system has kinda changed lately. I can put it in ubuntu-docs if you can do the rest on the ubufox side. As we said yesterday, newz is going to put it on the online version | 22:56 |
| asac | mdke: i think the online process is not yet important. ubufox doesn't need to be changed. only thing he needs for the offline page to work is a uk lang pack | 22:56 |
| asac | which will arrive soon | 22:56 |
| asac | mdke: please put it in ubuntu-docs | 22:57 |
| asac | do you need a peer review? he is a member of translation team? | 22:57 |
| asac | mdke: sorry the online process is of course important. its just not defined yet. i think for now the process is: whatever is in ubuntu-docs can be copied to online pages | 22:57 |
| mdke | asac: are you sure there are no issues with the prepare-firefox-translations script? if there is any chance that it will break by a translation being added which isn't supported by the system, I'm a bit worried about adding it this late in hardy | 23:00 |
| asac | mdke: i don't think we are talking about hardy right now | 23:00 |
| asac | mdke: its about getting this thing on track so it will end up in intrepid | 23:01 |
| asac | once that is in the online page can be updated based on that | 23:01 |
| asac | tymofiy: is that good enough for you? | 23:01 |
| mdke | asac: adding it to intrepid will be no issue | 23:01 |
| tymofiy | what is intrepid? | 23:01 |
| asac | mdke: yeah. question is, will it happen automatically now? or do we need to do anything else except this bug? | 23:02 |
| tymofiy | next Ubu? | 23:02 |
| asac | yes | 23:02 |
| tymofiy | why ? | 23:02 |
| asac | because everything is frozen | 23:02 |
| asac | we release in 6 days or so :) | 23:02 |
| tymofiy | uk is not lagging compared to other languages in firefox and xulruner packages. | 23:02 |
| asac | tymofiy: that page just came late. the offline page will not be seen by most users | 23:03 |
| tymofiy | AFAIK langpacks are scheduled to froze on 18 | 23:03 |
| asac | tymofiy: most users will see the online page | 23:03 |
| tymofiy | I do not care much about the page, but it would be good to have it | 23:03 |
| tymofiy | or ship with update, as 804 is LTS | 23:03 |
| mdke | asac: we just need to make sure we get together in the next release cycle and ensure we know exactly what is going on, and can discard the old system. | 23:03 |
| tymofiy | I care more about langpack | 23:04 |
| asac | tymofiy: well. its not a normal langpack. | 23:04 |
| asac | tymofiy: the langpack will be available | 23:04 |
| asac | for firefoix | 23:04 |
| mdke | asac: the bug report is enough to remind me to include the translations - we review our bugs regularly | 23:04 |
| asac | mdke: ok thanks | 23:04 |
| asac | tymofiy: do you understand what i mean? the langpack for firefox will be available | 23:04 |
| asac | tymofiy: users will not get the offline page unless they have never been online | 23:04 |
| asac | tymofiy: so they will see the online page | 23:05 |
| tymofiy | yes, thanks. Just wanted to be sure :) | 23:05 |
| asac | tymofiy: that page we can update after release | 23:05 |
| asac | based on the offline page we have in intrepid by then | 23:05 |
| tymofiy | Moz team moved all the help to online | 23:05 |
| asac | tymofiy: so my kicker is: get this offline page you submitted right into ubuntu _after_ the release ... then get it online. | 23:06 |
| tymofiy | I see. | 23:06 |
| asac | after that everyone who starts firefox with uk pack will get the uk online page if they ahve hardy | 23:06 |
| asac | and even if they are offline afterwards they will get the online page because firefox has it cached | 23:06 |
| asac | only those never online will see an english text | 23:07 |
| asac | i think thats acceptable | 23:07 |
| mdke | I think that approach is reasonable | 23:07 |
| mdke | it's rather late to add any new translations right now | 23:07 |
| asac | at least we don't risk to break ubuntu-docs ... which is shipped on every single machine (aka high risk) | 23:07 |
| mdke | right | 23:07 |
| tymofiy | ok, thanks everybody. | 23:08 |
| mdke | cool | 23:08 |
| asac | tymofiy: cool. feel free to kick us once hardy is out | 23:08 |
| asac | :) | 23:08 |
| asac | we will take care to get this in asap then | 23:08 |
| tymofiy | btw - what about sunbird and thunderbird? | 23:09 |
| asac | tymofiy: ? | 23:09 |
| asac | tymofiy: sunbird doesn't have -uk | 23:10 |
| tymofiy | the things you said "/me makes note" :) | 23:10 |
| tymofiy | 0.7 havent. 0.8 does | 23:10 |
| asac | yes :) | 23:11 |
| asac | we cannot upgrade sunbird now | 23:11 |
| asac | if thunderbird has a new locale we can still consider that | 23:11 |
| asac | is there? | 23:11 |
| tymofiy | yep | 23:12 |
| tymofiy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird-locales/+bug/216732 | 23:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216732 in thunderbird-locales "missing locale: Ukrainian (uk)" [Undecided,New] | 23:12 |
| asac | tymofiy: is there a final pack as well? | 23:12 |
| asac | e.g. for 2.0.0.12? | 23:12 |
| tymofiy | yes. | 23:13 |
| tymofiy | even two :) | 23:13 |
| asac | two? | 23:13 |
| tymofiy | one offilial linked to moz server, one attached to the bug | 23:13 |
| tymofiy | both work with .12 | 23:13 |
| tymofiy | second has few typos fixed. | 23:14 |
| asac | tymofiy: ok lets do an update then | 23:15 |
| asac | tymofiy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7234/ | 23:16 |
| asac | those are the ones we have | 23:16 |
| asac | can you look in the 2.0.0.12 directory and check what other locales are available? | 23:16 |
| asac | and give me a complete list so i can include all? | 23:16 |
| tymofiy | np | 23:16 |
| tymofiy | wait a sec | 23:16 |
| asac | thanks | 23:16 |
| tymofiy | fx2 too? | 23:17 |
| tymofiy | there were few locales added to the firefox2 branch too. | 23:17 |
| asac | no :) | 23:18 |
| asac | firefox 2 is not supported anymore ;) | 23:18 |
| tymofiy | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7235/ | 23:21 |
| asac | tymofiy: those are new? | 23:22 |
| tymofiy | those are all | 23:22 |
| tymofiy | according to the log, new are af, uk, ko and he | 23:25 |
| tymofiy | http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvslog.cgi?file=/mozilla/mail/locales/shipped-locales&rev=MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH&mark=1.1.2.7 | 23:26 |
| Jazzva | Evening all... | 23:26 |
| Jazzva | asac, sorry, I couldn't make it earlier ... I'll go through the wiki list now :) | 23:26 |
| asac | Jazzva: thanks | 23:31 |
| fta | Jazzva, asac, did one of you package jsview ? | 23:46 |
| Jazzva | jsview? not me... | 23:46 |
| asac | fta: most likely went unseen | 23:46 |
| fta | hm, maybe i've bumped it manually then | 23:46 |
| Jazzva | BTW, what's the package name? | 23:47 |
| Jazzva | Oh, it's not in the repos :) | 23:47 |
| fta | yep, too bad, it's a good candidate | 23:48 |
| Jazzva | It'll get in ;) | 23:48 |
| Jazzva | now, or for interpid, then via backports (I suppose) :) | 23:49 |
| fta | http://forum.softwareblaze.com/viewforum.php?f=2 | 23:50 |
| fta | and it works with 3.0pre after a bump | 23:50 |
| Jazzva | Hmm ... File a bug report, or, if you don't have time for that, I'll do it later and then package it :) | 23:51 |
| asac | fta: why do you come up with that extension now? :-P | 23:51 |
| asac | you used it before, didn't you? | 23:51 |
| fta | because i needed to extract a js script from a page and it was gone. | 23:52 |
| Jazzva | Offtopic: Registered a domain :)... www.jazzva.com ... Nothing online so far :) | 23:52 |
| fta | asac, yes, i've been using it since ff2 | 23:53 |
| Jazzva | fta, I'll add it to the extensions list, I'm looking at the page now | 23:53 |
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