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JaminCollinshoping somene here can help me isolate/correct an oddity I'm seeing in mythweb's upcoming recording interface.  The listing includes two programs from last month.01:28
JaminCollinsI've checked this using two different browsers to rule out browser cache being the issue... both browsers show the same listing01:29
=== Khonshu2 is now known as Khonshu3
MythbuntuGuest47hey there, I upgraded to hardy within mythbuntu and now if I press any buttons on the keyboard it logs me out of the session and then 30 seconds later logs me back in, any ideas what is going on? My remote will work as does everything else but if I press any button on the keyboard or click on anything with a mouse it does the same thign01:53
MythbuntuGuest47*thing01:53
Tuv0ksounds like the  default user got borked01:56
Tuv0kstick around, you'll be helped soon01:57
MythbuntuGuest47alright, thanks01:57
MythbuntuGuest47also for SD recordings is it normal for mythtvfrontent to take 70% of the cpu? (  AMD Sempron 1Ghz, 1.5G of ram)02:01
MythbuntuGuest47mythtvfrontend is what i ment02:02
Karger1978Hey, i tried to do X out though my pvr 350 and all i get on the is an XFace page, i can see my mouse like it's duel montior,  but if i drop and drag any app on it, no work.  Anyone have any ideas03:20
Karger1978?03:20
Karger1978no one?03:23
Karger1978Anyone here?03:36
Karger1978hi03:53
Karger1978are you there hit03:53
Karger1978hti03:53
boubbini have separate frontend and backend, i can access the media on the backend, but i cant play it, it says "input unreachable" or something like that, what to do ?06:47
Khonshu3do you have the network shares setup correctly?   and are they using the same directory location on each machine?06:54
Khonshu3sounds like the backend is handing out info on what's available, but that the frontend doesn't have that media available in it's local filesystem, it needs it.06:55
boubbinyeah thats prolly it06:56
boubbinmythbuntu does not guide through the nfs mounting process ?06:56
Khonshu3well, on the mythbuntu wiki there's a document on setting it up, and it does to some degree.  but it don't by default do all the setup.06:56
boubbinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html06:57
boubbini can use this guide ?06:57
Khonshu3let me look at that06:57
Khonshu3there's a guide available that's specific to myth and mythbuntu I've seen06:58
boubbink, thats prolly better06:58
Khonshu3yea, there's not really that much too it06:58
Khonshu3just make sure /etc/exports lists the right directory06:58
Khonshu3by default06:58
Khonshu3it is /var/lib/mythtv06:58
Khonshu3share that06:58
Khonshu3restart nfs06:59
Khonshu3by doing #sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart06:59
Khonshu3then mount it on the frontend06:59
Khonshu3mount it to the same location, like /var/lib/mythtv again06:59
boubbinyeah, if i have added local media to my mythtv, would they be playable if i just share that folder ?06:59
Khonshu3let me see if I can find that document fer ya06:59
boubbinnope they wont, cause they are on a different folder07:00
boubbini hjave to share that too07:00
Khonshu3yea, anything you put in /var/lib/mythtv would then by browsable/watchable on both the backend and the frontend with proper shares07:00
boubbink07:00
Khonshu3it needs to have the same file hiarachy07:00
boubbinyeah07:00
Khonshu3that link you posted will do it for you, it's not myth specific, it don't need be though07:01
Khonshu3just share /var/lib/mythtv07:02
Khonshu3and mount it to /var/lib/mythtv on your frontend07:02
Khonshu3I'm looking for that myth doc though07:02
Khonshu3standby07:02
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boubbinyeah07:03
boubbinwheni share my mp3 folder, it will mount it but the folder is empty...07:09
boubbinthe folder needs to be with permissions 777 ?07:10
Khonshu2but it's really not so bad to setup07:10
Khonshu2I just got disconnected, for no reason07:10
boubbinwhen i share my mp3 folder, it will mount it but the folder is empty...07:12
Khonshu2so you share, by posting in exports, and you restart your nfs server?07:12
boubbinyeah07:13
Khonshu2aight07:13
Khonshu2so you mount, and mount returns with no errors07:13
Khonshu2and shows mounted in your mtab?07:13
Khonshu2but shows nothing in the mount location?07:13
boubbinnot in mtab07:14
boubbinmount07:14
boubbinlists it07:14
Khonshu2ahaa07:14
Khonshu2well it's in mtab then, in principle07:14
Khonshu2mount with no args shows your mtab07:14
Khonshu2should anyhow07:14
Khonshu2ok, so it does list it?07:14
boubbinwell its not in mount either :)07:14
boubbinnope07:14
Khonshu2ahaa07:14
Khonshu2ok07:14
Khonshu2so it's not getting mounted07:14
boubbinwhen im trying to mount it tells me wrong permission07:14
Khonshu2ahaa07:14
Khonshu2ok, you must get the uid #'s consistant07:15
Khonshu2there's alot of ways to do this07:15
boubbinusers uid ?07:15
Khonshu2yea07:15
Khonshu2permissions across nfs are uid assigned07:15
boubbinok, how to chage uid's?07:15
Khonshu2I have a user for my mythtv user, and I keep this uid # the same, on my workstation or tv boxes07:16
boubbinyeah07:16
Khonshu2well, to change the uid/gid on your mp3 directory you chown/chgrp it07:16
Khonshu2like run:  chown -R mythtvuser mp307:16
Khonshu2the -R is recursive, picks up the whole dir's permissions07:17
Khonshu2and for mythtvuser put whatever user you need07:17
boubbinso it wont be owned by my user anymore ?07:18
Khonshu2well, it can be07:18
Khonshu2like I say, there's several ways to solve it07:18
Khonshu2myth needs read access to that di07:18
Khonshu2directory07:18
Khonshu2you could change owner or just change the group of the mp3's directory07:18
Khonshu2that's easy07:19
Khonshu2or, just give that directory read rights to everyone07:19
Khonshu2like chmod -R 664 mp3_directory07:20
boubbinsomething just happened :)07:20
boubbinwell i have 1000 uid on both machines..07:20
Khonshu2that's good07:20
Khonshu2that's the first user # normally07:20
boubbini mean something happened, i got disconnected :)07:20
Khonshu2it's the uid I have07:20
boubbinyeah so they are identical ?07:21
Khonshu2sure07:21
boubbineverything should then work as it is now ?07:21
Khonshu2so if uid 1000 has read rights on the server to that directory, then when mounted it will have read rights on the frontend07:21
Khonshu2seems like07:21
Khonshu2if it mounts correctly07:21
Khonshu2hangon07:21
Khonshu2I bet the permission error you have is host permission07:21
Khonshu2in your /etc/exports directory07:21
Khonshu2you have to define which hosts can access that share07:22
boubbin/lol/a/mp3              192.168.2.5(ro,sync,no_root_squash)07:22
boubbinand thats the ip of the machine07:22
Khonshu2ok07:22
boubbinwith the frontend07:22
Khonshu2that should be right07:22
Khonshu2yea07:22
Khonshu2and mount it to /lol/a/mp3 on the frontend too07:22
boubbinyeah07:23
boubbin192.168.2.4:/lol/b /lol/b nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 007:23
Khonshu2and assuming a few other things, that should work07:23
Khonshu2yea, that looks good07:23
boubbini have this in /var/log/messages07:26
boubbinApr 16 09:04:55 mythbuntu xfdesktop: Trash directory /lol/b/.Trash-1000 exists, but didn't pass the security checks, can't use it07:26
boubbinand btw im mounting /lol/a and /lol/b dirs07:27
boubbinthey have exact same export/fstab entry's07:27
Khonshu2yea, I see07:28
Khonshu2ok, and mp3's are under 1 of them, /lol/a07:28
boubbincan i just remove that /lol/b/.Trash-100007:28
Khonshu2sure07:28
Khonshu2.files don't always get permissions passed to them with the same shell commands07:28
Khonshu2sometimes, you have to chmod 777 .* or something07:29
boubbindidnt help tho :)07:29
Khonshu2still no playback07:29
boubbinno mounting07:29
Khonshu2well well07:29
Khonshu2ahaa07:29
Khonshu2permission?07:29
boubbinyeah07:29
boubbinmount.nfs: 192.168.2.4:/lol/b failed, reason given by server: Permission denied07:29
boubbinmount.nfs: 192.168.2.4:/lol/a failed, reason given by server: Permission denied07:29
Khonshu2tell you what, it may be that that port is blocked by your firewall, I've seen that07:30
Khonshu2you could install firestarter and look at that07:30
boubbinnmap shows its open..07:30
boubbin204907:30
Khonshu2well it's open07:31
Khonshu2yea07:31
Khonshu2that's it07:31
Khonshu2ok07:31
Khonshu2what's your server ip?07:31
Khonshu2it's in the same range right?07:31
boubbin192.168.2.4 and 192.168.2.507:31
Khonshu2well that's simple enough07:31
boubbin4 is server07:31
Khonshu2aight07:32
Khonshu2in your /etc/export file07:32
Khonshu2try defining the whole range07:32
Khonshu2like 192.168.2.*07:32
Khonshu2for the time being07:32
Khonshu2are you using the same version of nfs-server and nfs-client?07:32
boubbindont know about that07:33
boubbini just installed them from repo07:33
boubbingutsy and hardy beta07:33
boubbinclient is gutsy and servere is hardy beta07:33
boubbinstill no permission07:34
xukunHi all. Is there special tweaks that I need to do with mythbuntu. Becouse When I play dvd movie from hdd , it does not play smooth, I dont know the good word for here but it becomes choppy. I with two different pc with the 7.10 and 8.04 version08:05
directhex|bspxukun, what spec pc? what video driver?09:15
reychangobuenas12:12
reychangodisculpen que hable en español, pero es que no domino el ingles12:12
reychangoalguien de aqui habla español???12:12
xukundirecthex|bsp, sorry I waited a long time so I left: Its dell inspiron 9300 laptop with centrino 1.8 GHZ with 1GB ram and Ati X300 video card. I also tried a P4 2.0GHz pc with 1,5GB ram and Nvidia 5200 video card12:44
reychangocomo hago para que mythtv muestre la opcion xmltv???12:53
Seeker`I know this isn't strictly myth related - what programs can you use to display input from a TV card (RCA connector) in "real time"13:40
^Willie^hmmz do the mythbuntu cd run on older systems like k6-3 500mhz ? then i can test my "old" tv card :)13:55
directhex|bsphow much RAM?13:55
^Willie^51213:55
^Willie^MB13:56
directhex|bspit'll run, but there's no worse combo than a crap tv card AND crap cpu13:56
directhex|bspyou can largely offset one with the other13:56
^Willie^just for testing ..13:56
^Willie^i still have an tv card from Fast media isa card13:56
directhex|bsp^Willie^, well, test away, but remember: "garbage in, garbage out"13:56
directhex|bspISA?13:56
directhex|bspwrite it off, that thing won't have the bandwidth to do TV13:56
^Willie^tv in tv out vga in vga out audio in and audio out on the card13:57
^Willie^2 mpeg encoder boards are added13:57
directhex|bspoh lord. you're headed into dark waters13:57
^Willie^i did get it for free once and never tested it ;)13:57
directhex|bspif it's ISA, then it's over 10 years old. it's worthless.13:58
^Willie^directhex|bsp: do you remember the ///Fast multimedia mm20v (movie machine 2)13:58
^Willie^directhex|bsp: i wana know where the vga in is good for :)13:58
^Willie^philips saa7110 based card13:59
^Willie^13yr old indeed dated from 1995 :)14:00
directhex|bspi'm talking to myself here. i see no point in continuing14:00
^Willie^yes and i did ask something i`m interested in.. i`ll buy an new card someday when i have euro`s14:00
^Willie^that will not be within 4 weeks14:00
^Willie^directhex|bsp: i do not expect to play dvd`s on that system.. i do remember that time i whas working for vobis computers and it whas an hell i know14:02
^Willie^but watching analoge tv must be posible without recording14:02
^Willie^on windows the did use the vga input for make the vga picture sharper .. in linux it can posible be used for other things 214:02
^Willie^that is what i wana know14:03
directhex|bspwatching analog tv without recording is possible without recording, in general, yes - but there are 2 issues14:03
directhex|bspfirstly, not with mythtv - mythtv is a PVR, a PVR always records14:03
^Willie^ok then myth tv is not wat i want :)14:04
^Willie^i`m planning to build one media center and thats it14:04
directhex|bspsecondly, there's the little issue of bandwidth. 16-bit ISA gives 5.3MiB/s, whereas a stream of 640x480 images at 25 frames per second needs 22MiB/s14:05
^Willie^posible with 2 tv out`s .. one upstairs and the other downstairs via wifi av link including ir14:05
^Willie^directhex|bsp: i just wana "test" if the card is supported finaly .14:05
^Willie^years ago there whas no linux driver only bsd14:06
directhex|bsp^Willie^, so check the linuxtv site?14:06
^Willie^link ?14:06
directhex|bsplinuxtv.org14:07
^Willie^i did endup 3 options .. freevo/myth/mce .. and geexbox that is based on freevo i guess14:07
directhex|bspnone of them will be any good for tv14:07
directhex|bspi mean, utterly terrible. your card cannot handle tv properly.14:08
directhex|bspif you only record at 320x200, then you max out most of the ISA bus - and get image quality to make youtube look embarrassed14:08
* laga reads the backlog14:09
^Willie^directhex|bsp: some pages say`s this card can do up to 60fps .. with his own mpeg encoders14:10
^Willie^so no need for isa bus transfer i guess ..14:10
lagayeah, but you'll need linux drivers14:10
lagamaybe you have a friend with an old computer they can donate to the cause?14:11
^Willie^directhex|bsp: again and last time .. i`m now up to testing this thing and no money to buy an new pci tv card .. i`ll do that when i have money for that then i stick in in my p4 3ghz HT system with pci-express bus ..14:11
^Willie^understand the point ?14:11
^Willie^atm no money so no new tv card posible14:11
directhex|bspyou can lead a horse to water...14:12
laganobody can prevent you from making yourself unhappy :)14:12
^Willie^http://cassy.dfmk.hu/~cassy/drivers/TV/pvrhw.goldfish.org/bttv/bttv-gallery.html14:12
^Willie^link to ancient tc cards14:12
^Willie^s/tc/tv14:12
* ^Willie^ things directhex|bsp is not understanding the part wana test this card on my own 14:12
lagawell, then just do it :)14:13
directhex|bspthen why ask?14:13
^Willie^ask if it is supported so i do not have to spend a cdr on it14:13
iamlindoro_Hey, does anyone know if I can use my original Creative Labs Video Blaster w/ MythTV on my 486 DX-4?  I got it for 8th grade graduation and I'd hate to waste such a good card.14:52
iamlindoro_har har har14:53
jdugganlmfao14:54
* iamlindoro_ melts his computer to slag by remotely associating the words "ISA bus" and "video at modern resolutions/bitrates/color depth"14:57
^Willie^iamlindoro_: i guess the will not understand it ;)15:38
^Willie^iamlindoro_: like an fast media movie machine 2 card that whas one of the best in his time .. the call it crap today and say it can`t do 60fps but it is designed to do 60fps on isa bus ;)15:39
^Willie^card with onboard mpeg n/de coder modules15:39
Raspberryis there a document anywhere on the proper way to setup MythBuntu 8.04?16:46
RaspberryI want to go by the book so that we can determine what the issue is with my setup16:47
Raspberry:)16:47
Raspberryor help write the book if there's only preliminary info available16:47
Tuv0kmythtv wiki16:57
Tuv0kmythbuntu is only a name16:57
Tuv0kmythtv is the actual package16:57
rhpot1991_laptopRaspberry: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support16:57
Tuv0kwhich leads you right back to the source16:58
Tuv0kmythtv16:58
Tuv0kthe most comprehensive resource for documentation by far16:59
rhpot1991_laptopTuv0k: there is an install doc there, and links to both the mythtv and ubuntu mythtv wiki16:59
Tuv0kby far16:59
Tuv0kRaspberry, http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall17:00
Tuv0kdon't shortchange yourself17:00
Tuv0kRaspberry, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page17:01
Tuv0keverything you could want to know17:01
Tuv0kgood luck17:01
tgm4883Tuv0k, how do those 2 links help anyone install mythbuntu?17:54
Tuv0kcarry on17:54
tgm4883IMO, this would be a much better link http://www.mythbuntu.org/installation_manual17:55
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883: which is in the support link is it not :)17:57
tgm4883rhpot1991_laptop, not exactly, mine links to where you can download the installation manual.  The link to that page is in the primary links and you can get to it from any page.17:58
rhpot1991_laptopmanual is kinda out of date as well though18:00
tgm4883yes, the manual is for 7.10.  the 8.04 manual isn't out yet18:00
Tuv0kbingo18:02
Tuv0kwhereas the mythtv docs are proper18:03
Tuv0kwhy is it even an issue?18:03
rhpot1991_laptopTuv0k: except they don't include any MCC stuff18:03
Tuv0kfine18:03
rhpot1991_laptopand you'd be a fool to setup mythbuntu without it18:03
rhpot1991_laptoplike reinventing the wheel18:03
Tuv0kthe guts of mythtv is more important IMHO than the MCC fluff18:03
Tuv0ka fool huh?18:03
rhpot1991_laptopbut MCC does it all for you18:03
rhpot1991_laptopyep, a fool :)18:04
Tuv0kone could argue MCC is precisely for fools no?18:04
* rhpot1991_laptop isn't going back to setting all of that up by hand ever18:04
rhpot1991_laptopwell it simplifies the process18:04
tgm4883I go back to the original question  <Raspberry> is there a document anywhere on the proper way to setup MythBuntu 8.04?18:04
rhpot1991_laptopif you want control, you should use MCC and then tweak18:04
tgm4883it doesn't say exactly what he needs help with18:05
rhpot1991_laptopno reason to do that all by hand when you don't need to18:05
rhpot1991_laptoptgm4883: also the fact that he is gone18:05
rhpot1991_laptopor at least awol18:05
Tuv0kand fools require simplicity no? Which is why they are referred to as simpltons?18:05
tgm4883for all I know, he needs help with the installer18:05
* tgm4883 uses Mythbuntu, and doesn't think he is a simpleton18:06
Tuv0ktgm4883, I was trying to point him to detailed docs18:06
Tuv0knot because you use mythbuntu, which is just packaging18:06
tgm4883I use MCC too18:06
Tuv0kbut was address the assinine comment directed towards me18:06
Tuv0kI do to18:07
rhpot1991_laptopMCC just simplifies the package installation and configuration, its the same as doing it via apt18:07
Tuv0kbut I installed mythtv before I even knew there was MCC18:07
Tuv0kand MCC has failed me before when I could have just as easily used mythtv-setup18:07
rhpot1991_laptopTuv0k: installing via apt isn't much different, I am talking about the old days of installing by hand and building lirc by hand and so on18:07
rhpot1991_laptopummmm, mythtv-setup is still needed even if you are using MCC18:08
Tuv0kuhmm of course18:08
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RaspberryTuv0k: I followed the instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.319:29
Tuv0kyeah19:29
RaspberryTuv0k: I've been to mythtv.org -- all of the instructions I found were for 7.10 or prior -- I had no problems with MythTV on 7.10 ... but 8.04 is a new beast entirely19:30
Tuv0kmythtv does not do ubuntu verson19:31
Tuv0kmythtv is either .2019:31
Tuv0kor .2119:31
Tuv0k8.04 uses .2119:31
Tuv0kthe mythtv site has updated documents for the latest version of mythtv which is .2119:32
Tuv0kwhat are you having trouble with?19:32
Raspberrymythtv won't run full screen19:32
Tuv0kthats weird19:33
Raspberryit runs like a window where the panels are visible but without a title bar19:33
Raspberrycompiz is not installed19:33
Raspberryit doesn't matter if it's a new or existing user account (deleted the entire home directory)19:33
Raspberrynvidia FX5200 card19:33
Raspberryworked fine with MythTV and 7.1019:33
RaspberryI've opened a bug on it19:33
Raspberrybut I thought I'd do some more testing19:33
Tuv0khave you looked into mthtv-setup where runing mythtv in window or non windowed is adjusted?19:34
RaspberryI've looked at it under appearance -> run TV / GUI separate19:34
Raspberrybut not with "mythtv-setup"19:34
Raspberrythat's why I'm trying to find out what the actual instructions are19:34
RaspberryI've run mythfrontend --reset19:34
Raspberrythat didn't fix it19:34
Raspberrychanged the Theme, but that was abou tit19:35
Raspberrywith 7.10 I used ubuntu-mythtv-frontend and had no problems everything just worked19:35
Raspberrynow I'm told that that is the wrong way to do things19:35
Tuv0khttp://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html19:35
Raspberryso I uninstalled it and created a brand new user account19:35
Tuv0kctrl-f and search that page for "fullscreen"19:36
Raspberrythis stuff19:36
Raspberry    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.19:36
Raspberryfor the xorg.conf file?19:36
Tuv0kyup19:36
Tuv0ksee if that helps19:36
RaspberryI have all that setup19:36
RaspberryI've tried a new xorg.conf ... no dice19:36
Raspberrymy old one from 7.10 wasn't overwritten19:37
Raspberryand it displays full screen video fine with VLC or Mplayer19:37
Raspberrybut not with MythTV19:37
RaspberryI think it has to do with how MythTV figures out that it's full screen19:37
Tuv0khttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Detailed_configuration_Frontend#Screen_settings19:39
Raspberryi'll try manually adjusting GUI width and height and see if that fixes it19:40
Raspberryi've gotta run, but thx!19:40
Tuv0knp19:41
linuxnewbie_hi there19:49
linuxnewbie_got a little problem with my mythbuntu19:49
linuxnewbie_installed it with wlan, and now i want to change to lan19:49
linuxnewbie_but it wont work19:49
linuxnewbie_someome here, who know where to find a howto19:50
linuxnewbie_or do i have to install my mythbuntu complete new19:50
linuxnewbie_someone here?19:50
Tuv0k!anyone19:51
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?19:51
linuxnewbie_sorry, im for the first time in such an irc channel19:51
Tuv0k!patience19:51
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:51
Tuv0kno worries19:52
Tuv0kstick around19:52
Tuv0kthere are people here who will be more than happy to walk you through19:52
linuxnewbie_ok, thought someone is here with the same problem, or someone with a solution19:52
Tuv0ksomeone has a solution19:52
Tuv0kthey may be away though19:52
Tuv0kyour issue is not mythbuntu specific however19:53
Tuv0kseems gerneally network related19:53
Tuv0kI really don't understand your problem19:54
linuxnewbie_so, i installed a mythbuntu with only wlan connection19:54
linuxnewbie_and i connected from a frontend to that mythbuntu backend via wlan19:54
linuxnewbie_and it worked19:54
linuxnewbie_but sometimes the video stopped19:54
linuxnewbie_so i wanted to try out, to connect the frontend with the backend via lan19:55
rhpot1991_laptoplinuxnewbie_: make the lan have the same IP as your wlan had, and it should all work19:55
linuxnewbie_i tried it, but it doesnt work19:55
linuxnewbie_maybe it depends, because i use static ip19:55
linuxnewbie_i could ping each computer19:56
rhpot1991_laptopcheck your logs /var/log/mythtv on the box thats failing to connect19:56
linuxnewbie_and it works, but i could not connect to ssl or mysql or something like that19:56
rhpot1991_laptopif it worked over wifi, it should be as simple as giving the lan the IP that wifi had19:56
rhpot1991_laptopmake sure wifi isn't hogging the IP still19:56
linuxnewbie_via wifi i got my ip over a dhcp-server.19:57
Tuv0kcheck the hosts file as well19:57
linuxnewbie_i plugged out the wlan-stick19:57
Tuv0kuuse the boxes name, it should resolve to its current ip19:57
rhpot1991_laptopwell if you are doing a BE and FE on different boxes I don't know why you wouldn't do a static IP19:58
linuxnewbie_yeah i gave it a try with static ips, but it doesnt work, dont know why19:59
linuxnewbie_i used exactly the same ips19:59
rhpot1991_laptoplook in the logs to see why19:59
linuxnewbie_in the message logs?20:00
rhpot1991_laptop(2:56:16 PM) rhpot1991_laptop: check your logs /var/log/mythtv on the box thats failing to connect20:02
linuxnewbie_hmmmm, nothing special in the logs,, try to connect and such things.......found out, that the backends mac adress is ff.ff.ff.ff.ff   cant be right20:06
linuxnewbie_maybe i got a hardware problem20:06
linuxnewbie_but why can i ping the ip of the backend20:06
linuxnewbie_hmmmmm20:06
linuxnewbie_how do i manually change my default network device in mythbuntu20:13
linuxnewbie_hmm20:30
Seeker`I've lost sound in mythtv. I have a PVR150, and the image displays fine, but there is no sound with it20:51
Seeker`I do get noise out if I do  "cat /dev/urandom | aplay", so I know that the soundcard is working20:52
tgm4883_laptopdo you get sound if you play a recording outside of myth?20:52
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: If I play an .avi copied over from another computer, yes20:57
tgm4883_laptopok, but what if you play a recording from your pvr150 outside of mythtv?21:00
tgm4883_laptoplike in vlc or totem21:01
Seeker`The sound was working previously btw, and if i play a recording when sound was working inside mythtv, the sound does work21:02
tgm4883_laptopso it sounds like the pvr15021:02
tgm4883_laptophow is it receiving signal?21:02
Seeker`it is plugged in to the coax lead21:03
Seeker`I did connect up my wii earlier to the composite connection21:04
Seeker`which meant that I had to change which input was /dev/video0 with v4l2ctl or something, but I have changed that back21:04
tgm4883_laptopdid you change the audio at all?21:07
Seeker`no21:07
Seeker`the script I used to switch them starts a new instance of "aplay", but that is it21:08
tgm4883_laptopcan you post the script21:09
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/84721:12
Seeker`I have restarted since I last ran that21:13
tgm4883_laptophave you tried the set-audio-input ?21:15
tgm4883_laptopwhat does this output21:16
tgm4883_laptopv4l2-ctl --list-audio-inputs21:16
Seeker`http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/84821:16
tgm4883_laptophmm21:18
tgm4883_laptopI wonder if "v4l2-ctl --set-audio-input=0" would help21:18
tgm4883_laptopbefore we do that21:18
tgm4883_laptopcan you pastbin the output of21:18
tgm4883_laptopdmesg | grep ivtv21:19
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: I have already done the set input21:20
Seeker`http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/84921:20
tgm4883_laptopjust to check one more thing.  Is there audio if you "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg"21:22
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: no21:24
tgm4883_laptopk21:24
tgm4883_laptopsec21:24
BobSlobAnyone wanna help me with lirc... I having a hell of a time21:29
BobSlobI download a lircrc file (from the online generator) and now i'm lost as to what i do with it21:30
Seeker`BobSlob: put it in .mythtv/lircrc21:30
Seeker`I think it is there anyway, then you will need to restart lirc and mythfrnotend, in that order21:31
BobSlobahh21:31
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, is this 7.10 or 8.04?21:32
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: 8.0421:32
BobSlobstupid me... what where is .mythtv/lircrc21:32
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: probably should have said that earlier21:32
BobSlobi'm still new to linux =P21:32
Seeker`BobSlob: In your home directory21:32
tgm4883_laptopBobSlob, ~/.mythtv/lircrc21:32
Seeker`/home/"username"/.mythtv/lircrc21:32
BobSlobcd .mythtv21:32
BobSlobhaha21:32
Seeker`BobSlob: Provided you are using 7.1021:32
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, also, can you try live tv in myth, then exit and pastebin your mythbackend.log21:33
BobSlobso i can just overwrite it fine... or manually paste it in?21:33
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/85021:34
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, also, are you wd5iyt  on the forums?21:34
BobSlobhmm21:36
BobSlobnow it doesnt work at all21:36
tgm4883_laptopBobSlob, that makes it sound like it was working before?21:37
BobSlobit was... just wrong buttons21:38
tgm4883_laptop^^ is key info21:38
tgm4883_laptopdid you restart lirc and mythfrontend?21:38
BobSlobi rebooted the whole computer21:38
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, the only thing I have found relating to your problem is that the hard drive may be going bad21:39
tgm4883_laptophttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75683621:39
tgm4883_laptopBobSlob, what remote?21:39
BobSlobcrap21:39
BobSlobmaybe i was supposed to download the lircd.conf aswell?21:39
BobSlobtgm4883_laptop: mce2 model 103921:39
tgm4883_laptop..21:39
tgm4883_laptopwhat buttons are not working right?21:40
BobSlobmost21:40
BobSlobthe number buttons work good21:40
tgm4883_laptopand you used MCC to set the remote up?21:41
BobSlobduring install... it just let me pick the driver... nothing more21:41
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: I am not wd5iyt on the forums21:42
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: I am not getting any of those errors21:42
tgm4883_laptopBollocks!, you are too21:43
tgm4883_laptopit's in the pastebin you posted21:43
tgm4883_laptopsata or pata?21:43
Seeker`PATA21:46
Seeker`I meant I'm not getting the hard drive errors21:46
tgm4883_laptopok, i'd check your DMA settings first, see if it has auto scaled back21:46
tgm4883_laptopyou mean the hard drive errors other than buffer overflow?21:47
Seeker`the other guy was gettting media errors21:47
tgm4883_laptopanyway..... see if your hard drive is set to dma 521:49
* tgm4883_laptop points out that the reason for your buffer overflow errors is that your computer is writing content to the hard drive slower than the buffer is filling up.21:50
BobSlobanyone know where lircd.conf goes? =P21:50
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: how do I check that?21:51
thoraxeanyone in here using a pvr150 and have their remote working?  i'm having some issues... i can cat lirc0 and see stuff coming in but suddenly irw isn't working at all and there are weird messages in dmesg21:54
Seeker`thoraxe: what remote?21:55
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, do  sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda then post output21:55
thoraxeerm... i'm not sure if it's silver or grey... lemme see if i can find a pic21:55
tgm4883_laptopmake sure that /dev/XXX is your drive21:55
thoraxehttp://www.hauppauge.com/images/pvr150_board+remote-b.jpg <-- this one21:56
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, also, post the output of sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda21:56
Seeker`/dev/sdb: Timing cached reads:   918 MB in  2.00 seconds = 458.32 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads:  166 MB in  3.00 seconds =  55.25 MB/sec21:57
thoraxelircd is running.  irw just worked but no dice21:59
thoraxemeaning it ran but not showing any input21:59
Seeker`http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/85121:59
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, what do you do on sda?22:02
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: Myth is running on sda22:04
Seeker`sdb is one big partition for storage22:04
tgm4883_laptopk22:04
Seeker`I have a storage group covering part of sda1 and all of sdb122:04
Seeker`sda1 has been full for a while, the last few days worth of recordings have been on sdb122:05
tgm4883_laptopah ok22:05
thoraxei think i need to switch my lircd config for this hauppauge remote maybe?22:05
tgm4883_laptopare they on the same IDE cable?22:05
Seeker`yeah22:06
tgm4883_laptophmm22:07
thoraxeso looking at the hauppauge lircd.conf and looking at output from mode2 i am not really sure why irw isn't registering any commands coming in?22:08
thoraxei pressed "1" with mode2 and saw code 0x1781 and that shows up in the lircd hauppauge configs.... any ideas?22:08
Seeker`the other annoying thing is that you cant turn off the buffering so that it displays straight from the card, which prevents you from using games consoles with it22:09
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, actually that is the writing to and playing back from the hard drive doing that22:13
BobSlobsigh22:15
BobSlobi dunno what i screwed up22:15
BobSlobremote doesnt work at all now22:15
thoraxeBobSlob: i'm having remote probs too22:15
thoraxeand i just crashed the lirc config... ha.22:15
BobSlobmine was kinda working (buttons were all screwed up) so i downloaded configs, and now it doesnt work at all22:15
thoraxei've got a pvr150 and i think it's just loading the wrong button codes22:16
BobSloband... i dunno what to do now =P22:16
thoraxeya me either hehe22:17
BobSlobhow do i test if lirc is even running22:17
thoraxeps aux | grep lirc22:18
thoraxeyou should see lircd22:18
BobSlobokay.. that i do22:18
thoraxedo ls /dev/lirc* what do you see22:18
BobSlob/dev/lirc0 and /dev/lircd22:19
thoraxeok lookin good22:20
BobSlobwhen i do a mode2.... i get /dev/lirc isnt there22:20
thoraxeyeah, cuz it's not22:20
Seeker`thoraxe: that is what I meant by buffering :)22:20
thoraxeyou have to specify /dev/lirc022:20
Seeker`woops, wrong tab complete22:20
thoraxeSeeker`: ??? haha22:20
thoraxeBobSlob: sudo mode2 -d /dev/lirc022:20
BobSlobokay.... its receiving signals22:21
thoraxeyeah, so is mine22:21
thoraxebut when you do irw and prses buttons nothing happens22:21
thoraxewhich leads me to believe it's not figuring out the right codes that are coming in22:21
BobSlobwhats irw?22:22
thoraxelike it's using the wrong section of the lirc conf or something22:22
thoraxeirw shows you the keypress that you get from an incoming ir code22:22
thoraxebut for me it doesn't show anything22:22
thoraxeeven though mode2 shows codes22:22
BobSlobi see22:22
BobSlobthe command just irw?22:22
thoraxeype22:22
BobSlob"connection refused"22:22
BobSlobis what i get22:23
thoraxeyeah i got that once too22:23
thoraxethen i rebooted22:23
thoraxesometimes jacking with the /dev/lirc0 pisses off irw22:23
thoraxehaha22:23
BobSlobcan i just restart lirc?22:23
BobSlobif so. how? =D22:23
thoraxeum22:23
thoraxemaybe?22:23
thoraxesudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart ?22:24
thoraxeno idea if that will work correctly though22:24
thoraxeyou're at about the same point i am22:24
thoraxebrb girlfriend home22:24
BobSlobalright22:25
BobSlobsame thing... i type irw and get nothing22:25
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: fixed it :D Had to play with the v4l settings22:26
thoraxeyeah.  i dunno how lirc figures out which section of the conf to use22:26
thoraxecuz i can find the mode2 codes in my conf22:26
thoraxefor example my code for the 1 button is 1781 which is in the conf, but it's under hauppauge_350 and there is no hauppauge_150 section22:28
thoraxeso i'm wonderinfg if that's a problem22:28
tgm4883_laptopsweet22:29
BobSlobi dunno.. i downloaded some pre-made configs and thats when everything went to hell22:29
thoraxego back to old configs?22:29
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: GAH! its disappeared again22:29
BobSlobdidnt save =D22:29
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, what did you do?22:30
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: changed channel22:32
Seeker`v4l2-ctl --log-status22:32
Seeker`was showing the audio processor as stopped and muted22:32
Seeker`so I unmuted it, and then the sound worked22:33
tgm4883_laptopwhat happens if you change back to the other channel?22:33
Seeker`restart seems to have fixed it22:35
Seeker`cna change to each channel, and the sound still works22:35
Seeker`you really should be able to turn off the "write to hard drive" part22:35
Seeker`even if it is for whole inputs at a time (e.g. composite 1)22:35
tgm4883_laptopSeeker`, IIRC, you can't because of hardware reasons22:39
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: what hardware reasons?22:42
tgm4883_laptopnot sure off the top of my head, but it's the same reason that you can't watch directly from the card.  the content has to be written somewhere first.  IIRC, it's that way with ALL hardware encoder cards22:43
jduggani thought you could open the device directly, without needing to write?22:44
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: I can play a game console through the card, but I have to fiddle with v4l stuff and use mplayer22:45
Seeker`tgm4883_laptop: Which is what caused the no sound problem22:45
thoraxeweird it looks like lirc is trying to start 3 times22:46
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=== darthanubis is now known as Tuv0k
thoraxehm, yeah, it's gotta be something with the lirc config22:55
thoraxehow do you specify which remote is being used?23:01
thoraxethe files in .lirc seem to have settings for all the remotes, but lircd.conf ALSO has codes for multiple remotes23:02

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