[01:28] hoping somene here can help me isolate/correct an oddity I'm seeing in mythweb's upcoming recording interface. The listing includes two programs from last month. [01:29] I've checked this using two different browsers to rule out browser cache being the issue... both browsers show the same listing === Khonshu2 is now known as Khonshu3 [01:53] hey there, I upgraded to hardy within mythbuntu and now if I press any buttons on the keyboard it logs me out of the session and then 30 seconds later logs me back in, any ideas what is going on? My remote will work as does everything else but if I press any button on the keyboard or click on anything with a mouse it does the same thign [01:53] *thing [01:56] sounds like the default user got borked [01:57] stick around, you'll be helped soon [01:57] alright, thanks [02:01] also for SD recordings is it normal for mythtvfrontent to take 70% of the cpu? ( AMD Sempron 1Ghz, 1.5G of ram) [02:02] mythtvfrontend is what i ment [03:20] Hey, i tried to do X out though my pvr 350 and all i get on the is an XFace page, i can see my mouse like it's duel montior, but if i drop and drag any app on it, no work. Anyone have any ideas [03:20] ? [03:23] no one? [03:36] Anyone here? [03:53] hi [03:53] are you there hit [03:53] hti [06:47] i have separate frontend and backend, i can access the media on the backend, but i cant play it, it says "input unreachable" or something like that, what to do ? [06:54] do you have the network shares setup correctly? and are they using the same directory location on each machine? [06:55] sounds like the backend is handing out info on what's available, but that the frontend doesn't have that media available in it's local filesystem, it needs it. [06:56] yeah thats prolly it [06:56] mythbuntu does not guide through the nfs mounting process ? [06:56] well, on the mythbuntu wiki there's a document on setting it up, and it does to some degree. but it don't by default do all the setup. [06:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html [06:57] i can use this guide ? [06:57] let me look at that [06:58] there's a guide available that's specific to myth and mythbuntu I've seen [06:58] k, thats prolly better [06:58] yea, there's not really that much too it [06:58] just make sure /etc/exports lists the right directory [06:58] by default [06:58] it is /var/lib/mythtv [06:58] share that [06:59] restart nfs [06:59] by doing #sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart [06:59] then mount it on the frontend [06:59] mount it to the same location, like /var/lib/mythtv again [06:59] yeah, if i have added local media to my mythtv, would they be playable if i just share that folder ? [06:59] let me see if I can find that document fer ya [07:00] nope they wont, cause they are on a different folder [07:00] i hjave to share that too [07:00] yea, anything you put in /var/lib/mythtv would then by browsable/watchable on both the backend and the frontend with proper shares [07:00] k [07:00] it needs to have the same file hiarachy [07:00] yeah [07:01] that link you posted will do it for you, it's not myth specific, it don't need be though [07:02] just share /var/lib/mythtv [07:02] and mount it to /var/lib/mythtv on your frontend [07:02] I'm looking for that myth doc though [07:02] standby === tgm4883_laptop_ is now known as tgm4883_laptop [07:03] yeah [07:09] wheni share my mp3 folder, it will mount it but the folder is empty... [07:10] the folder needs to be with permissions 777 ? [07:10] but it's really not so bad to setup [07:10] I just got disconnected, for no reason [07:12] when i share my mp3 folder, it will mount it but the folder is empty... [07:12] so you share, by posting in exports, and you restart your nfs server? [07:13] yeah [07:13] aight [07:13] so you mount, and mount returns with no errors [07:13] and shows mounted in your mtab? [07:13] but shows nothing in the mount location? [07:14] not in mtab [07:14] mount [07:14] lists it [07:14] ahaa [07:14] well it's in mtab then, in principle [07:14] mount with no args shows your mtab [07:14] should anyhow [07:14] ok, so it does list it? [07:14] well its not in mount either :) [07:14] nope [07:14] ahaa [07:14] ok [07:14] so it's not getting mounted [07:14] when im trying to mount it tells me wrong permission [07:14] ahaa [07:15] ok, you must get the uid #'s consistant [07:15] there's alot of ways to do this [07:15] users uid ? [07:15] yea [07:15] permissions across nfs are uid assigned [07:15] ok, how to chage uid's? [07:16] I have a user for my mythtv user, and I keep this uid # the same, on my workstation or tv boxes [07:16] yeah [07:16] well, to change the uid/gid on your mp3 directory you chown/chgrp it [07:16] like run: chown -R mythtvuser mp3 [07:17] the -R is recursive, picks up the whole dir's permissions [07:17] and for mythtvuser put whatever user you need [07:18] so it wont be owned by my user anymore ? [07:18] well, it can be [07:18] like I say, there's several ways to solve it [07:18] myth needs read access to that di [07:18] directory [07:18] you could change owner or just change the group of the mp3's directory [07:19] that's easy [07:19] or, just give that directory read rights to everyone [07:20] like chmod -R 664 mp3_directory [07:20] something just happened :) [07:20] well i have 1000 uid on both machines.. [07:20] that's good [07:20] that's the first user # normally [07:20] i mean something happened, i got disconnected :) [07:20] it's the uid I have [07:21] yeah so they are identical ? [07:21] sure [07:21] everything should then work as it is now ? [07:21] so if uid 1000 has read rights on the server to that directory, then when mounted it will have read rights on the frontend [07:21] seems like [07:21] if it mounts correctly [07:21] hangon [07:21] I bet the permission error you have is host permission [07:21] in your /etc/exports directory [07:22] you have to define which hosts can access that share [07:22] /lol/a/mp3 192.168.2.5(ro,sync,no_root_squash) [07:22] and thats the ip of the machine [07:22] ok [07:22] with the frontend [07:22] that should be right [07:22] yea [07:22] and mount it to /lol/a/mp3 on the frontend too [07:23] yeah [07:23] 192.168.2.4:/lol/b /lol/b nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 0 [07:23] and assuming a few other things, that should work [07:23] yea, that looks good [07:26] i have this in /var/log/messages [07:26] Apr 16 09:04:55 mythbuntu xfdesktop: Trash directory /lol/b/.Trash-1000 exists, but didn't pass the security checks, can't use it [07:27] and btw im mounting /lol/a and /lol/b dirs [07:27] they have exact same export/fstab entry's [07:28] yea, I see [07:28] ok, and mp3's are under 1 of them, /lol/a [07:28] can i just remove that /lol/b/.Trash-1000 [07:28] sure [07:28] .files don't always get permissions passed to them with the same shell commands [07:29] sometimes, you have to chmod 777 .* or something [07:29] didnt help tho :) [07:29] still no playback [07:29] no mounting [07:29] well well [07:29] ahaa [07:29] permission? [07:29] yeah [07:29] mount.nfs: 192.168.2.4:/lol/b failed, reason given by server: Permission denied [07:29] mount.nfs: 192.168.2.4:/lol/a failed, reason given by server: Permission denied [07:30] tell you what, it may be that that port is blocked by your firewall, I've seen that [07:30] you could install firestarter and look at that [07:30] nmap shows its open.. [07:30] 2049 [07:31] well it's open [07:31] yea [07:31] that's it [07:31] ok [07:31] what's your server ip? [07:31] it's in the same range right? [07:31] 192.168.2.4 and 192.168.2.5 [07:31] well that's simple enough [07:31] 4 is server [07:32] aight [07:32] in your /etc/export file [07:32] try defining the whole range [07:32] like 192.168.2.* [07:32] for the time being [07:32] are you using the same version of nfs-server and nfs-client? [07:33] dont know about that [07:33] i just installed them from repo [07:33] gutsy and hardy beta [07:33] client is gutsy and servere is hardy beta [07:34] still no permission [08:05] Hi all. Is there special tweaks that I need to do with mythbuntu. Becouse When I play dvd movie from hdd , it does not play smooth, I dont know the good word for here but it becomes choppy. I with two different pc with the 7.10 and 8.04 version [09:15] xukun, what spec pc? what video driver? [12:12] buenas [12:12] disculpen que hable en español, pero es que no domino el ingles [12:12] alguien de aqui habla español??? [12:44] directhex|bsp, sorry I waited a long time so I left: Its dell inspiron 9300 laptop with centrino 1.8 GHZ with 1GB ram and Ati X300 video card. I also tried a P4 2.0GHz pc with 1,5GB ram and Nvidia 5200 video card [12:53] como hago para que mythtv muestre la opcion xmltv??? [13:40] I know this isn't strictly myth related - what programs can you use to display input from a TV card (RCA connector) in "real time" [13:55] <^Willie^> hmmz do the mythbuntu cd run on older systems like k6-3 500mhz ? then i can test my "old" tv card :) [13:55] how much RAM? [13:55] <^Willie^> 512 [13:56] <^Willie^> MB [13:56] it'll run, but there's no worse combo than a crap tv card AND crap cpu [13:56] you can largely offset one with the other [13:56] <^Willie^> just for testing .. [13:56] <^Willie^> i still have an tv card from Fast media isa card [13:56] ^Willie^, well, test away, but remember: "garbage in, garbage out" [13:56] ISA? [13:56] write it off, that thing won't have the bandwidth to do TV [13:57] <^Willie^> tv in tv out vga in vga out audio in and audio out on the card [13:57] <^Willie^> 2 mpeg encoder boards are added [13:57] oh lord. you're headed into dark waters [13:57] <^Willie^> i did get it for free once and never tested it ;) [13:58] if it's ISA, then it's over 10 years old. it's worthless. [13:58] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: do you remember the ///Fast multimedia mm20v (movie machine 2) [13:58] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: i wana know where the vga in is good for :) [13:59] <^Willie^> philips saa7110 based card [14:00] <^Willie^> 13yr old indeed dated from 1995 :) [14:00] i'm talking to myself here. i see no point in continuing [14:00] <^Willie^> yes and i did ask something i`m interested in.. i`ll buy an new card someday when i have euro`s [14:00] <^Willie^> that will not be within 4 weeks [14:02] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: i do not expect to play dvd`s on that system.. i do remember that time i whas working for vobis computers and it whas an hell i know [14:02] <^Willie^> but watching analoge tv must be posible without recording [14:02] <^Willie^> on windows the did use the vga input for make the vga picture sharper .. in linux it can posible be used for other things 2 [14:03] <^Willie^> that is what i wana know [14:03] watching analog tv without recording is possible without recording, in general, yes - but there are 2 issues [14:03] firstly, not with mythtv - mythtv is a PVR, a PVR always records [14:04] <^Willie^> ok then myth tv is not wat i want :) [14:04] <^Willie^> i`m planning to build one media center and thats it [14:05] secondly, there's the little issue of bandwidth. 16-bit ISA gives 5.3MiB/s, whereas a stream of 640x480 images at 25 frames per second needs 22MiB/s [14:05] <^Willie^> posible with 2 tv out`s .. one upstairs and the other downstairs via wifi av link including ir [14:05] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: i just wana "test" if the card is supported finaly . [14:06] <^Willie^> years ago there whas no linux driver only bsd [14:06] ^Willie^, so check the linuxtv site? [14:06] <^Willie^> link ? [14:07] linuxtv.org [14:07] <^Willie^> i did endup 3 options .. freevo/myth/mce .. and geexbox that is based on freevo i guess [14:07] none of them will be any good for tv [14:08] i mean, utterly terrible. your card cannot handle tv properly. [14:08] if you only record at 320x200, then you max out most of the ISA bus - and get image quality to make youtube look embarrassed [14:09] * laga reads the backlog [14:10] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: some pages say`s this card can do up to 60fps .. with his own mpeg encoders [14:10] <^Willie^> so no need for isa bus transfer i guess .. [14:10] yeah, but you'll need linux drivers [14:11] maybe you have a friend with an old computer they can donate to the cause? [14:11] <^Willie^> directhex|bsp: again and last time .. i`m now up to testing this thing and no money to buy an new pci tv card .. i`ll do that when i have money for that then i stick in in my p4 3ghz HT system with pci-express bus .. [14:11] <^Willie^> understand the point ? [14:11] <^Willie^> atm no money so no new tv card posible [14:12] you can lead a horse to water... [14:12] nobody can prevent you from making yourself unhappy :) [14:12] <^Willie^> http://cassy.dfmk.hu/~cassy/drivers/TV/pvrhw.goldfish.org/bttv/bttv-gallery.html [14:12] <^Willie^> link to ancient tc cards [14:12] <^Willie^> s/tc/tv [14:12] * ^Willie^ things directhex|bsp is not understanding the part wana test this card on my own [14:13] well, then just do it :) [14:13] then why ask? [14:13] <^Willie^> ask if it is supported so i do not have to spend a cdr on it [14:52] Hey, does anyone know if I can use my original Creative Labs Video Blaster w/ MythTV on my 486 DX-4? I got it for 8th grade graduation and I'd hate to waste such a good card. [14:53] har har har [14:54] lmfao [14:57] * iamlindoro_ melts his computer to slag by remotely associating the words "ISA bus" and "video at modern resolutions/bitrates/color depth" [15:38] <^Willie^> iamlindoro_: i guess the will not understand it ;) [15:39] <^Willie^> iamlindoro_: like an fast media movie machine 2 card that whas one of the best in his time .. the call it crap today and say it can`t do 60fps but it is designed to do 60fps on isa bus ;) [15:39] <^Willie^> card with onboard mpeg n/de coder modules [16:46] is there a document anywhere on the proper way to setup MythBuntu 8.04? [16:47] I want to go by the book so that we can determine what the issue is with my setup [16:47] :) [16:47] or help write the book if there's only preliminary info available [16:57] mythtv wiki [16:57] mythbuntu is only a name [16:57] mythtv is the actual package [16:57] Raspberry: http://www.mythbuntu.org/support [16:58] which leads you right back to the source [16:58] mythtv [16:59] the most comprehensive resource for documentation by far [16:59] Tuv0k: there is an install doc there, and links to both the mythtv and ubuntu mythtv wiki [16:59] by far [17:00] Raspberry, http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall [17:00] don't shortchange yourself [17:01] Raspberry, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [17:01] everything you could want to know [17:01] good luck [17:54] Tuv0k, how do those 2 links help anyone install mythbuntu? [17:54] carry on [17:55] IMO, this would be a much better link http://www.mythbuntu.org/installation_manual [17:57] tgm4883: which is in the support link is it not :) [17:58] rhpot1991_laptop, not exactly, mine links to where you can download the installation manual. The link to that page is in the primary links and you can get to it from any page. [18:00] manual is kinda out of date as well though [18:00] yes, the manual is for 7.10. the 8.04 manual isn't out yet [18:02] bingo [18:03] whereas the mythtv docs are proper [18:03] why is it even an issue? [18:03] Tuv0k: except they don't include any MCC stuff [18:03] fine [18:03] and you'd be a fool to setup mythbuntu without it [18:03] like reinventing the wheel [18:03] the guts of mythtv is more important IMHO than the MCC fluff [18:03] a fool huh? [18:03] but MCC does it all for you [18:04] yep, a fool :) [18:04] one could argue MCC is precisely for fools no? [18:04] * rhpot1991_laptop isn't going back to setting all of that up by hand ever [18:04] well it simplifies the process [18:04] I go back to the original question is there a document anywhere on the proper way to setup MythBuntu 8.04? [18:04] if you want control, you should use MCC and then tweak [18:05] it doesn't say exactly what he needs help with [18:05] no reason to do that all by hand when you don't need to [18:05] tgm4883: also the fact that he is gone [18:05] or at least awol [18:05] and fools require simplicity no? Which is why they are referred to as simpltons? [18:05] for all I know, he needs help with the installer [18:06] * tgm4883 uses Mythbuntu, and doesn't think he is a simpleton [18:06] tgm4883, I was trying to point him to detailed docs [18:06] not because you use mythbuntu, which is just packaging [18:06] I use MCC too [18:06] but was address the assinine comment directed towards me [18:07] I do to [18:07] MCC just simplifies the package installation and configuration, its the same as doing it via apt [18:07] but I installed mythtv before I even knew there was MCC [18:07] and MCC has failed me before when I could have just as easily used mythtv-setup [18:07] Tuv0k: installing via apt isn't much different, I am talking about the old days of installing by hand and building lirc by hand and so on [18:08] ummmm, mythtv-setup is still needed even if you are using MCC [18:08] uhmm of course === Riblet is now known as Ribs [19:29] Tuv0k: I followed the instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.3 [19:29] yeah [19:30] Tuv0k: I've been to mythtv.org -- all of the instructions I found were for 7.10 or prior -- I had no problems with MythTV on 7.10 ... but 8.04 is a new beast entirely [19:31] mythtv does not do ubuntu verson [19:31] mythtv is either .20 [19:31] or .21 [19:31] 8.04 uses .21 [19:32] the mythtv site has updated documents for the latest version of mythtv which is .21 [19:32] what are you having trouble with? [19:32] mythtv won't run full screen [19:33] thats weird [19:33] it runs like a window where the panels are visible but without a title bar [19:33] compiz is not installed [19:33] it doesn't matter if it's a new or existing user account (deleted the entire home directory) [19:33] nvidia FX5200 card [19:33] worked fine with MythTV and 7.10 [19:33] I've opened a bug on it [19:33] but I thought I'd do some more testing [19:34] have you looked into mthtv-setup where runing mythtv in window or non windowed is adjusted? [19:34] I've looked at it under appearance -> run TV / GUI separate [19:34] but not with "mythtv-setup" [19:34] that's why I'm trying to find out what the actual instructions are [19:34] I've run mythfrontend --reset [19:34] that didn't fix it [19:35] changed the Theme, but that was abou tit [19:35] with 7.10 I used ubuntu-mythtv-frontend and had no problems everything just worked [19:35] now I'm told that that is the wrong way to do things [19:35] http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html [19:35] so I uninstalled it and created a brand new user account [19:36] ctrl-f and search that page for "fullscreen" [19:36] this stuff [19:36] # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. [19:36] for the xorg.conf file? [19:36] yup [19:36] see if that helps [19:36] I have all that setup [19:36] I've tried a new xorg.conf ... no dice [19:37] my old one from 7.10 wasn't overwritten [19:37] and it displays full screen video fine with VLC or Mplayer [19:37] but not with MythTV [19:37] I think it has to do with how MythTV figures out that it's full screen [19:39] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/User_Manual:Detailed_configuration_Frontend#Screen_settings [19:40] i'll try manually adjusting GUI width and height and see if that fixes it [19:40] i've gotta run, but thx! [19:41] np [19:49] hi there [19:49] got a little problem with my mythbuntu [19:49] installed it with wlan, and now i want to change to lan [19:49] but it wont work [19:50] someome here, who know where to find a howto [19:50] or do i have to install my mythbuntu complete new [19:50] someone here? [19:51] !anyone [19:51] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [19:51] sorry, im for the first time in such an irc channel [19:51] !patience [19:51] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [19:52] no worries [19:52] stick around [19:52] there are people here who will be more than happy to walk you through [19:52] ok, thought someone is here with the same problem, or someone with a solution [19:52] someone has a solution [19:52] they may be away though [19:53] your issue is not mythbuntu specific however [19:53] seems gerneally network related [19:54] I really don't understand your problem [19:54] so, i installed a mythbuntu with only wlan connection [19:54] and i connected from a frontend to that mythbuntu backend via wlan [19:54] and it worked [19:54] but sometimes the video stopped [19:55] so i wanted to try out, to connect the frontend with the backend via lan [19:55] linuxnewbie_: make the lan have the same IP as your wlan had, and it should all work [19:55] i tried it, but it doesnt work [19:55] maybe it depends, because i use static ip [19:56] i could ping each computer [19:56] check your logs /var/log/mythtv on the box thats failing to connect [19:56] and it works, but i could not connect to ssl or mysql or something like that [19:56] if it worked over wifi, it should be as simple as giving the lan the IP that wifi had [19:56] make sure wifi isn't hogging the IP still [19:57] via wifi i got my ip over a dhcp-server. [19:57] check the hosts file as well [19:57] i plugged out the wlan-stick [19:57] uuse the boxes name, it should resolve to its current ip [19:58] well if you are doing a BE and FE on different boxes I don't know why you wouldn't do a static IP [19:59] yeah i gave it a try with static ips, but it doesnt work, dont know why [19:59] i used exactly the same ips [19:59] look in the logs to see why [20:00] in the message logs? [20:02] (2:56:16 PM) rhpot1991_laptop: check your logs /var/log/mythtv on the box thats failing to connect [20:06] hmmmm, nothing special in the logs,, try to connect and such things.......found out, that the backends mac adress is ff.ff.ff.ff.ff cant be right [20:06] maybe i got a hardware problem [20:06] but why can i ping the ip of the backend [20:06] hmmmmm [20:13] how do i manually change my default network device in mythbuntu [20:30] hmm [20:51] I've lost sound in mythtv. I have a PVR150, and the image displays fine, but there is no sound with it [20:52] I do get noise out if I do "cat /dev/urandom | aplay", so I know that the soundcard is working [20:52] do you get sound if you play a recording outside of myth? [20:57] tgm4883_laptop: If I play an .avi copied over from another computer, yes [21:00] ok, but what if you play a recording from your pvr150 outside of mythtv? [21:01] like in vlc or totem [21:02] The sound was working previously btw, and if i play a recording when sound was working inside mythtv, the sound does work [21:02] so it sounds like the pvr150 [21:02] how is it receiving signal? [21:03] it is plugged in to the coax lead [21:04] I did connect up my wii earlier to the composite connection [21:04] which meant that I had to change which input was /dev/video0 with v4l2ctl or something, but I have changed that back [21:07] did you change the audio at all? [21:07] no [21:08] the script I used to switch them starts a new instance of "aplay", but that is it [21:09] can you post the script [21:12] tgm4883_laptop: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/847 [21:13] I have restarted since I last ran that [21:15] have you tried the set-audio-input ? [21:16] what does this output [21:16] v4l2-ctl --list-audio-inputs [21:16] http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/848 [21:18] hmm [21:18] I wonder if "v4l2-ctl --set-audio-input=0" would help [21:18] before we do that [21:18] can you pastbin the output of [21:19] dmesg | grep ivtv [21:20] tgm4883_laptop: I have already done the set input [21:20] http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/849 [21:22] just to check one more thing. Is there audio if you "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg" [21:24] tgm4883_laptop: no [21:24] k [21:24] sec [21:29] Anyone wanna help me with lirc... I having a hell of a time [21:30] I download a lircrc file (from the online generator) and now i'm lost as to what i do with it [21:30] BobSlob: put it in .mythtv/lircrc [21:31] I think it is there anyway, then you will need to restart lirc and mythfrnotend, in that order [21:31] ahh [21:32] Seeker`, is this 7.10 or 8.04? [21:32] tgm4883_laptop: 8.04 [21:32] stupid me... what where is .mythtv/lircrc [21:32] tgm4883_laptop: probably should have said that earlier [21:32] i'm still new to linux =P [21:32] BobSlob: In your home directory [21:32] BobSlob, ~/.mythtv/lircrc [21:32] /home/"username"/.mythtv/lircrc [21:32]