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boolkathat works right untill it loads to the point where it asks me to login00:00
boolkathen it shuts off00:01
koldrakanhave you tried any keyboard shortcuts you might have?00:02
viddif you go to a tty (<ctrl><alt><f1>) does it come back?00:02
koldrakanwait, cancel that00:02
homebrewciderhey there, my windows on xubuntu gutsy have no title bars, when I try to alter window manager settings it says "can not with with current window manaer (unjnown) I'm using xfce. any ideas please?00:05
viddyou have compiz running?00:06
homebrewcidermmm dunno00:08
viddhomebrewcider, is compiz installed?00:08
boolkavidd does it come back where?00:08
homebrewcidereverything was fine until last night, I think I shut down something I shouldn't have, I was tired.....00:08
viddboolka, hit <ctrl><alt><f1>...does the screen come back on the svideo?00:09
homebrewcidernow for example, opera is running absolutlely full screen00:09
homebrewciderwith no title bars00:09
homebrewciderand obviously no task bar at the bottom00:09
vidddelete your .sessions folder and then <ctrl><alt><backspace> homebrewcider (this restarts your xfce)00:10
vidddelete your .sessions folder and then <ctrl><alt><backspace> homebrewcider (this restarts your xfce)00:10
homebrewciderok00:11
boolkaerr vidd, im trying to connect my tv through svideo00:11
homebrewciderI'll have to leavehere to try that00:11
homebrewcidercheers00:11
boolkaimage appears right up to where it asks me to login00:11
viddboolka, i know00:11
boolkaonce it reaches that point, tv goes blank and i see all the stuff on laptop lcd00:11
viddi figured that out too00:12
boolkaaight00:12
viddat that point...switch to tty00:12
boolkais ctrl alt f1  somekind of hot key for svideo?00:12
viddno...it is the hotkey for tty00:13
viddwhen you are in the cli tty, does the tv show the same stuff as your screen?00:14
boolkai duno, never tried cli00:14
boolkaonly xfce00:14
boolkaive heard i need to config xorg00:15
boolkaxorg.conf00:15
viddin order to determine if the issue is that your driver is messed up, see if you can get the screen back with the tty open00:15
homebrewcider.sessions, I can't find it, can you please be more specific00:15
viddhomebrewcider, open your file manager, set it to show hidden files00:16
homebrewciderdone that00:16
viddin the .config folder of your home directory00:17
viddthere is xfce4-sessions00:17
vidddelete that folder00:17
homebrewciderok, brb00:17
homebrewciderno, problem is still there00:21
homebrewciderwindow manager settings still says window manager unknown00:22
viddsounds like you have compiz installed00:23
homebrewciderdon't know about that, like i said everything was fine until last night when i shut something down via a terminal window (top)00:24
homebrewciderI obviously shut the wrong thing down, don't know what00:24
viddtype this in terminal.....00:26
viddxfwm400:26
homebrewcidergotta get a terminal without losing this windows00:27
homebrewcidersorry back00:27
vidddoes <ctrl><esc> bring up the menu?00:27
homebrewciderno00:28
homebrewcidersettings seems okay in root, can I copy a config file over?00:29
homebrewciderit's almost as if it's running xfce but doesn't KNOW it00:29
viddyou can do that00:29
homebrewciderwhich one to copy00:30
homebrewciderconfig/xfce-sessions?00:30
viddyuo can delete your entire home folder as root and rebuild it....00:30
homebrewciderdon't wanna do that00:31
homebrewcideryikes00:31
viddrm -Rf /home/[user]00:31
viddthen remake it and chown it to yourself00:31
homebrewciderdon't like the sound of that00:32
viddsave all the important stuff in a different folder first of course00:32
homebrewciderwhat's this compiz stuff you mentioned00:32
viddbelieve it or not, its really not that risky00:33
viddit is a window manager00:33
vidddo this.....00:33
viddmake a folder.... mkdir /temp-folder00:34
viddthen cp -Rf /home/[user] /temp-folder00:35
viddthis way you have an exact copy of your home folder as it is now00:35
homebrewciderok00:35
viddthen delete it, and rebuild it00:35
viddto rebuild it, just mkdir /home/[user]00:36
viddthen chown it you your user00:37
homebrewciderchown ey?00:37
viddchown /home/[user] [user]:[user]00:37
viddchown = CHange OWNer00:37
homebrewciderok00:38
homebrewciderlooks like I'm gonna be busy00:38
homebrewciderthanks for your help00:38
homebrewciderbye for now00:38
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mom_how do i associate mime settings in xfce?01:26
mom_nevermind i found it in thunar01:29
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ersid_hi anyone available for help01:44
viddwhats up?01:47
ersid_sorry vid my internet died02:11
ersid_emh its askin me for admin pass and i put in the root passwd i set and it keeps saying password is incorrect02:11
ersid_but in terminal it works fine as su02:12
magic_ninjaanyone run vmware02:56
initwitis there a way to boot my laptop off a usb hard disk enclosure? i have slackware on the internal 10 gig disk. maybe i can just add an entry for /dev/sda2 ( / for xubuntu ) in my lilo.conf on /dev/hda?03:14
gaurdro_I dunno if lilo has support for usb drives,  if your bios can boot from external drives it shouldn't be a problem03:15
initwitah. ok03:16
initwitwhat is the default loader for ubuntu? grub?03:16
gaurdro_It would be worth a try to mess with lilo and see if it can see the usb drive.    yeppers,  it grub.03:17
initwitk03:17
initwitthe live cd has no problems seeing the enclosure. i am installing to it atm03:18
initwiti'd like to take ubuntu for a test drive. boy do i miss GNOME...heh03:21
gaurdro_once it gets pasts the boot loader it should definitely see any usb stuff.  it's just whether lilo will,  it doesn't have access to a full set of kernel modules03:21
initwityeah, maybe i can build a custom initrd off a cd boot if the bios hoses me03:22
Adantan_Alexhi06:08
NullNamehi06:10
Stroganoffhi06:10
NullNamewhat's up/06:12
NullName?06:12
totalwormageTHAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!06:22
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homebrewciderhey all, I'm having a problem, my xfce seems to be playing up, my windows have no title bars, andI can't change the window manager settings, I get an error message These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)09:45
homebrewcidersorry, back again09:47
TheSheepstart xfwm409:47
homebrewcidersure I've tried that, I'll have to close Opera ( how I'm connecting here) to try that09:48
homebrewciderback soon09:48
ablomenclose opera?09:48
ablomenoh gone09:48
homebrewciderno joy on start xfwm409:50
TheSheephomebrewcider: what's the error?09:50
homebrewciderunknown job09:50
TheSheepjust type 'xfwm4' as the command :)09:51
homebrewciderok09:51
homebrewciderback soon09:51
IsABhey all09:53
homebrewciderthanx Sheep, all good09:53
TheSheep\o/09:53
homebrewciderthanx Heeps, thanx Sheep, hehe09:54
homebrewcidermy wife says you're a legend09:54
TheSheepwasn't it Will Smith? :/09:55
IsABdoes anyone know of a a way to set the system to 'hibenate' mode from the command prompt?09:56
freerisewhat am i missing here?10:52
freerisechecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables10:52
freerisejoe@spinup:/home/pkgs/mc-4.6.1$10:52
freerisei have gcc. i guess ill have to synaptic everything :|10:55
TheSheepfreerise: install build-essential pacakge10:56
freeriseoh, thanks10:56
freerisei am new to ubuntu10:57
homebrewciderwhat would be the best way to get read/write access to my FAT32 partition, I can see it there, but can't access it11:00
freeriseTheSheep: i found it in the synaptic list, how do i get now, damn im tired or lame, no it's lame hehehe11:02
IsABfreerise: you just right click and "mark it for installation" and then click the 'apply' button to install11:09
IsABhomebrewcider: its not mounted?11:12
TheSheep!fat3211:13
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE11:13
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freeriseisp slammed me11:18
freerisei guess ill just apt-get it11:20
IsAB<IsAB> freerise: you just right click and "mark it for installation" and then click the 'apply' button to install11:20
freeriseoh? ok11:20
homebrewciderit's mounted11:20
homebrewcider"failed to open permission denied"11:21
IsABmaybe the link thesheep gave you can help11:23
freerisei take it that synaptic takes care of all those nasty dependencies, nice stuff11:27
freeriseit'll take me quite some time to get used to a package manager11:28
IsABpackage managers are a gift from god11:29
freerisewell, maybe you didn't hear, i ran slackware since 199911:29
freerisei have like 10 gigs in source dirs alone11:30
IsABheh11:31
freeriseit's nice to let tux do the driving for a change (:11:31
IsABi played with LFS a couple of years back and it didnt take long before i was lost in sources/dependencies etc11:32
freerisei'll bet11:33
homebrewciderall done11:33
freeriseso far, the only thing that annoyed me about ubuntu was the lack of a direct root account. i fixed that first, but i'm no stranger to sudo either11:34
IsABdirect root account?11:35
freerisecannot log in as root11:35
IsABon X you mean?11:36
freeriseprobably, i have been running ubuntu for a total of 6 hours so far this lifetime hehehehe11:37
IsAB:)11:37
IsABits a little more than 24h in my case :) havent tried loging on as root on the graphical session thingy11:38
freerisewhy is there no right click menu in xfce?11:38
freerisemaybe it's my ver of xfce11:39
IsAByou can set what right click does on one of xfce's configuration apps, cant remember wich though11:39
IsABthe desktop one i think11:39
freeriseoh ok, ill find it :)11:40
freeriseso has debian and ubuntu split? or is ubuntu just a lite debian?11:42
freerisei am not sure if i'm going to plug in my slackware disk again. this seems so nice11:44
* freerise is a sucker for gnome11:45
freerisehey, instead of searching thru synaptic for gkrellm, can i just enter gkrellm in the search field to grab it?11:50
IsAByup11:52
freerisegeez, they almost make it too easy  :-)11:52
IsABhehe11:52
freerisei think it's time to chown all my /home dir data11:55
IsABi spent 3+ hours last night tryignt to make a shell script that would read a line from the terminal, turn it into a google search url and pass it to firefox...3 hours for a 3 lines script..and i still didnt get it :/11:56
IsABcouldnt get past translating spaces to '%20' 's11:57
TheSheepurllib.quote11:57
IsABpython?11:58
TheSheepyes11:58
IsABi'll look it up, tnx11:59
freerisewow, there's like 180,000 add-ons to gkrellm12:00
freeriselooks like i have to grab gnome stuff now12:03
freerisedebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome12:03
freerisedebconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?)12:03
IsABis it? :)12:05
freerisehehehe, the more i grab the better ubuntu gets. maybe i should stop here and get the 47 cd set for debian12:06
IsABheh, you'll end up with the gpl version of Vista :)12:07
freeriselol12:08
freerisethat is a BAD thing12:08
freerisehey, if i stopped running linux and went back to what i ran before...hey wait, they don't make dos anymore (:12:10
IsAB;)12:10
freerisei always liked gnomes version of mahjonng, now i'll be able to run it once again. kde's is ok but not as nice12:13
freerisei still have to learn grub. i'm a lilo-brain12:14
freerisei'll bet my version of ubuntu is old. can the libs and such upgrade like software or am i still forced to download a newly released distro?12:18
freerisethis is ver 7.0412:19
IsABsynaptic to the rescue :)12:19
freerisecool12:19
freerisei might even forget how to script, hehehehehe12:20
freerisewhere is my inittab gone to?12:25
freerisei need more than 6 ttys or i'll have a nervious breakdown12:27
TheSheepfreerise: use screen12:27
freerisei am used to sending my logs to tty2512:29
bimshiredoes anyone here use transmission?12:43
bimshirenever mind12:47
freerisei think i found a work around12:48
freerisehm, it still dies on GLIB13:05
freerisemaybe ill drop out to single user and then init 3 and see if that does it13:09
freeriselater13:09
jfalvarezhey!, I got a problem, I install ubuntu 8.04 beta, just ubuntu, gnome needs a lot of machine reqs, so I install xfce4, so, I never hear about Xubuntu, so I install it on my current Ubuntu (via apt-get install xubuntu-desktop) but now doesn't wotk, I mean start the session but nothing happend16:06
jfalvarez*work16:07
maxamillionjfalvarez: installing xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu often causes problems because some packages are replacements for components in ubuntu-desktop16:09
jfalvarezhum16:09
jfalvarezmaxamillion: hehehe, so I broke my ubuntu, right ?16:10
jfalvarez:|16:10
maxamillionjfalvarez: no16:14
maxamillionjfalvarez: your gnome side is probably fine, but i can't promise the xfce side will work mainly because (iirc) the gnome alternatives will take precedence16:15
jfalvarezhum sux16:16
jfalvarez:|16:16
jcgrv06Hello. Anybody installed xubuntu on a ThinkPad 240?16:32
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Andal1hello at everyone. I have installed in my pc xubuntu. I don't find inittab in /etc. is it normal?17:17
zoredacheyes17:18
Andal1where is it?17:18
zoredachethe init was upgraded/replaced on ubuntu things you defined in inittab are now defined in a set of files in /etc/event.d17:18
Andal1however, how could I know, what is my runlevel? :)17:20
Andal1thanks zoredache :)17:20
zoredachethe default runlevel is 2... you can see that being set in /etc/event.d/rc-default17:21
Andal1good :) ^_^ thanks ^_^17:21
Andal1zoredache: good bye :) and good luck17:25
zoredachebye17:25
noobiehi18:05
noobieMy desktop crashed every time i tried to run terminal from the menu18:05
noobieso i changed the color depth to 1618:06
noobieas was suggested in a bug report18:06
noobieand now its like my desktop shifted 3 inches to the left and wrapped around to the right18:07
noobiewould anyone know what i can do?18:07
gaurdrohmm.  could you use pastebin to show us your xorg.conf18:09
noobiehow would i do that?18:10
gaurdrojust a sec18:13
gaurdrouse your favorite text editor to open  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and copy it's contents to http://pastebin.com18:15
noobiek18:15
noobie sec18:16
noobieim working on pasting it, my linux box is painfully slow18:24
noobieheh18:24
gaurdrono worries.18:24
noobielinuxhttp://mibbit.com/pb/SfXSGa18:24
noobielinuxok its pasted18:25
gaurdrohmm.  i don't see anything there.  have you done an auto screen detect with your monitor18:31
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TheSheepcody-somerville: you here?19:51
cody-somervilleaye19:51
TheSheepcody-somerville: look: http://www.xubuntu.cz19:52
cody-somervilleHawt :]19:53
cody-somervilleDid... you do that?19:54
TheSheepcody-somerville: no19:56
TheSheepcody-somerville: Zelwa form xubuntu-cz19:56
cody-somerville:)19:56
cody-somervilleWould he be willing to set it up for the main site?19:57
TheSheepI mean želva19:57
TheSheepcody-somerville: you want it now? :)19:59
cody-somervilleSure :]20:00
TheSheeplol, it's the first time for me when communicating in Polish is easier than in English20:05
TheSheepcody-somerville: well, I didn't manage to explain, he gone to bed20:10
TheSheepcody-somerville: I'll try tomorrow :)20:11
cody-somervilleOkay, thanks.20:14
TheSheepbut it looks great20:14
cody-somervilleIt does look good. I wonder if he can get the third column to work.20:15
TheSheepfor a Pole the Cech langage looks hilarious :)20:17
TheSheepthey use all the wrong words20:18
TheSheepCzech*20:18
cody-somerville:)20:18
cody-somervilleTheSheep: Are you going to be at the UDS?20:18
TheSheepcody-somerville: is it tasty?20:20
cody-somervilleI imagine so :)20:22
TheSheepok, what's that?20:22
TheSheepand where?20:22
TheSheepand how much does it cost?20:22
cody-somervilleUbuntu Developer Summit in Prague20:23
cody-somervilleIt is free to attend20:23
TheSheepwhen?20:24
TheSheepPrague is a beautiful city20:24
cody-somervilleMay 19th-23rd20:24
TheSheepthat's soon20:24
TheSheepI'd love to go, will try20:25
TheSheepcody-somerville: you're coming?20:25
cody-somervilleYup20:26
cody-somerville:)20:36
maxamillioncody-somerville: did you get sponsored to go?20:36
cody-somervilleYup20:36
maxamillionthat's awesome20:37
maxamillioncongrats20:37
cody-somervilleThanks :)20:37
TheSheepcody-somerville: you've been in Europe before?20:38
cody-somervilleNope20:39
TheSheepcool!20:39
* cody-somerville is psyched.20:39
TheSheep:D20:39
cody-somervilleRelease candidate cd requires testing.20:56
cody-somervillehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all20:56
TheSheepcody-somerville: aye aye sir!20:56
cody-somerville:)20:56
TheSheepcody-somerville: do I need to register for UDS?21:05
cody-somervilleTheSheep, I dunno about "need" to but you just click a link to do so :)21:05
TheSheepcody-somerville: can't find it on the wiki21:05
cody-somervilleTheSheep, If you need a hotel, register before May 1st to get the special discount21:05
cody-somervillehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid21:06
cody-somervillehttps://edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-intrepid21:06
TheSheepwhat's 'interpid'?21:06
cody-somervilleThe name of the next release.21:08
cody-somervilleand also the name of the UDS21:08
TheSheepconfusing21:09
TheSheepso what is the full name of the next release?21:09
TheSheep!intrepid21:09
ubotuIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex21:09
TheSheepwtf is ibex???21:09
zoredachea goat21:10
TheSheepmoonshine and madness21:10
cody-somervillegotta jet, bbiab21:10
Tu13esanyone know how I'd go about setting up my keyboard layout to switch between us and dvorak with a hotkey?23:24
NekoKunWhat's the difference between Alternate and Desktop releases?23:40
zoredache!alternate23:41
ubotuThe Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal23:41
NekoKun!minimal23:43
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:43

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