[00:00] <boolka> that works right untill it loads to the point where it asks me to login
[00:01] <boolka> then it shuts off
[00:02] <koldrakan> have you tried any keyboard shortcuts you might have?
[00:02] <vidd> if you go to a tty (<ctrl><alt><f1>) does it come back?
[00:02] <koldrakan> wait, cancel that
[00:05] <homebrewcider> hey there, my windows on xubuntu gutsy have no title bars, when I try to alter window manager settings it says "can not with with current window manaer (unjnown) I'm using xfce. any ideas please?
[00:06] <vidd> you have compiz running?
[00:08] <homebrewcider> mmm dunno
[00:08] <vidd> homebrewcider, is compiz installed?
[00:08] <boolka> vidd does it come back where?
[00:08] <homebrewcider> everything was fine until last night, I think I shut down something I shouldn't have, I was tired.....
[00:09] <vidd> boolka, hit <ctrl><alt><f1>...does the screen come back on the svideo?
[00:09] <homebrewcider> now for example, opera is running absolutlely full screen
[00:09] <homebrewcider> with no title bars
[00:09] <homebrewcider> and obviously no task bar at the bottom
[00:10] <vidd> delete your .sessions folder and then <ctrl><alt><backspace> homebrewcider (this restarts your xfce)
[00:10] <vidd> delete your .sessions folder and then <ctrl><alt><backspace> homebrewcider (this restarts your xfce)
[00:11] <homebrewcider> ok
[00:11] <boolka> err vidd, im trying to connect my tv through svideo
[00:11] <homebrewcider> I'll have to leavehere to try that
[00:11] <homebrewcider> cheers
[00:11] <boolka> image appears right up to where it asks me to login
[00:11] <vidd> boolka, i know
[00:11] <boolka> once it reaches that point, tv goes blank and i see all the stuff on laptop lcd
[00:12] <vidd> i figured that out too
[00:12] <boolka> aight
[00:12] <vidd> at that point...switch to tty
[00:12] <boolka> is ctrl alt f1  somekind of hot key for svideo?
[00:13] <vidd> no...it is the hotkey for tty
[00:14] <vidd> when you are in the cli tty, does the tv show the same stuff as your screen?
[00:14] <boolka> i duno, never tried cli
[00:14] <boolka> only xfce
[00:15] <boolka> ive heard i need to config xorg
[00:15] <boolka> xorg.conf
[00:15] <vidd> in order to determine if the issue is that your driver is messed up, see if you can get the screen back with the tty open
[00:15] <homebrewcider> .sessions, I can't find it, can you please be more specific
[00:16] <vidd> homebrewcider, open your file manager, set it to show hidden files
[00:16] <homebrewcider> done that
[00:17] <vidd> in the .config folder of your home directory
[00:17] <vidd> there is xfce4-sessions
[00:17] <vidd> delete that folder
[00:17] <homebrewcider> ok, brb
[00:21] <homebrewcider> no, problem is still there
[00:22] <homebrewcider> window manager settings still says window manager unknown
[00:23] <vidd> sounds like you have compiz installed
[00:24] <homebrewcider> don't know about that, like i said everything was fine until last night when i shut something down via a terminal window (top)
[00:24] <homebrewcider> I obviously shut the wrong thing down, don't know what
[00:26] <vidd> type this in terminal.....
[00:26] <vidd> xfwm4
[00:27] <homebrewcider> gotta get a terminal without losing this windows
[00:27] <homebrewcider> sorry back
[00:27] <vidd> does <ctrl><esc> bring up the menu?
[00:28] <homebrewcider> no
[00:29] <homebrewcider> settings seems okay in root, can I copy a config file over?
[00:29] <homebrewcider> it's almost as if it's running xfce but doesn't KNOW it
[00:29] <vidd> you can do that
[00:30] <homebrewcider> which one to copy
[00:30] <homebrewcider> config/xfce-sessions?
[00:30] <vidd> yuo can delete your entire home folder as root and rebuild it....
[00:31] <homebrewcider> don't wanna do that
[00:31] <homebrewcider> yikes
[00:31] <vidd> rm -Rf /home/[user]
[00:31] <vidd> then remake it and chown it to yourself
[00:32] <homebrewcider> don't like the sound of that
[00:32] <vidd> save all the important stuff in a different folder first of course
[00:32] <homebrewcider> what's this compiz stuff you mentioned
[00:33] <vidd> believe it or not, its really not that risky
[00:33] <vidd> it is a window manager
[00:33] <vidd> do this.....
[00:34] <vidd> make a folder.... mkdir /temp-folder
[00:35] <vidd> then cp -Rf /home/[user] /temp-folder
[00:35] <vidd> this way you have an exact copy of your home folder as it is now
[00:35] <homebrewcider> ok
[00:35] <vidd> then delete it, and rebuild it
[00:36] <vidd> to rebuild it, just mkdir /home/[user]
[00:37] <vidd> then chown it you your user
[00:37] <homebrewcider> chown ey?
[00:37] <vidd> chown /home/[user] [user]:[user]
[00:37] <vidd> chown = CHange OWNer
[00:38] <homebrewcider> ok
[00:38] <homebrewcider> looks like I'm gonna be busy
[00:38] <homebrewcider> thanks for your help
[00:38] <homebrewcider> bye for now
[01:26] <mom_> how do i associate mime settings in xfce?
[01:29] <mom_> nevermind i found it in thunar
[01:44] <ersid_> hi anyone available for help
[01:47] <vidd> whats up?
[02:11] <ersid_> sorry vid my internet died
[02:11] <ersid_> emh its askin me for admin pass and i put in the root passwd i set and it keeps saying password is incorrect
[02:12] <ersid_> but in terminal it works fine as su
[02:56] <magic_ninja> anyone run vmware
[03:14] <initwit> is there a way to boot my laptop off a usb hard disk enclosure? i have slackware on the internal 10 gig disk. maybe i can just add an entry for /dev/sda2 ( / for xubuntu ) in my lilo.conf on /dev/hda?
[03:15] <gaurdro_> I dunno if lilo has support for usb drives,  if your bios can boot from external drives it shouldn't be a problem
[03:16] <initwit> ah. ok
[03:16] <initwit> what is the default loader for ubuntu? grub?
[03:17] <gaurdro_> It would be worth a try to mess with lilo and see if it can see the usb drive.    yeppers,  it grub.
[03:17] <initwit> k
[03:18] <initwit> the live cd has no problems seeing the enclosure. i am installing to it atm
[03:21] <initwit> i'd like to take ubuntu for a test drive. boy do i miss GNOME...heh
[03:21] <gaurdro_> once it gets pasts the boot loader it should definitely see any usb stuff.  it's just whether lilo will,  it doesn't have access to a full set of kernel modules
[03:22] <initwit> yeah, maybe i can build a custom initrd off a cd boot if the bios hoses me
[06:08] <Adantan_Alex> hi
[06:10] <NullName> hi
[06:10] <Stroganoff> hi
[06:12] <NullName> what's up/
[06:12] <NullName> ?
[06:22] <totalwormage> THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
[09:45] <homebrewcider> hey all, I'm having a problem, my xfce seems to be playing up, my windows have no title bars, andI can't change the window manager settings, I get an error message These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)
[09:47] <homebrewcider> sorry, back again
[09:47] <TheSheep> start xfwm4
[09:48] <homebrewcider> sure I've tried that, I'll have to close Opera ( how I'm connecting here) to try that
[09:48] <homebrewcider> back soon
[09:48] <ablomen> close opera?
[09:48] <ablomen> oh gone
[09:50] <homebrewcider> no joy on start xfwm4
[09:50] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: what's the error?
[09:50] <homebrewcider> unknown job
[09:51] <TheSheep> just type 'xfwm4' as the command :)
[09:51] <homebrewcider> ok
[09:51] <homebrewcider> back soon
[09:53] <IsAB> hey all
[09:53] <homebrewcider> thanx Sheep, all good
[09:53] <TheSheep> \o/
[09:54] <homebrewcider> thanx Heeps, thanx Sheep, hehe
[09:54] <homebrewcider> my wife says you're a legend
[09:55] <TheSheep> wasn't it Will Smith? :/
[09:56] <IsAB> does anyone know of a a way to set the system to 'hibenate' mode from the command prompt?
[10:52] <freerise> what am i missing here?
[10:52] <freerise> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:52] <freerise> joe@spinup:/home/pkgs/mc-4.6.1$
[10:55] <freerise> i have gcc. i guess ill have to synaptic everything :|
[10:56] <TheSheep> freerise: install build-essential pacakge
[10:56] <freerise> oh, thanks
[10:57] <freerise> i am new to ubuntu
[11:00] <homebrewcider> what would be the best way to get read/write access to my FAT32 partition, I can see it there, but can't access it
[11:02] <freerise> TheSheep: i found it in the synaptic list, how do i get now, damn im tired or lame, no it's lame hehehe
[11:09] <IsAB> freerise: you just right click and "mark it for installation" and then click the 'apply' button to install
[11:12] <IsAB> homebrewcider: its not mounted?
[11:13] <TheSheep> !fat32
[11:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:18] <freerise> isp slammed me
[11:20] <freerise> i guess ill just apt-get it
 freerise: you just right click and "mark it for installation" and then click the 'apply' button to install
[11:20] <freerise> oh? ok
[11:20] <homebrewcider> it's mounted
[11:21] <homebrewcider> "failed to open permission denied"
[11:23] <IsAB> maybe the link thesheep gave you can help
[11:27] <freerise> i take it that synaptic takes care of all those nasty dependencies, nice stuff
[11:28] <freerise> it'll take me quite some time to get used to a package manager
[11:29] <IsAB> package managers are a gift from god
[11:29] <freerise> well, maybe you didn't hear, i ran slackware since 1999
[11:30] <freerise> i have like 10 gigs in source dirs alone
[11:31] <IsAB> heh
[11:31] <freerise> it's nice to let tux do the driving for a change (:
[11:32] <IsAB> i played with LFS a couple of years back and it didnt take long before i was lost in sources/dependencies etc
[11:33] <freerise> i'll bet
[11:33] <homebrewcider> all done
[11:34] <freerise> so far, the only thing that annoyed me about ubuntu was the lack of a direct root account. i fixed that first, but i'm no stranger to sudo either
[11:35] <IsAB> direct root account?
[11:35] <freerise> cannot log in as root
[11:36] <IsAB> on X you mean?
[11:37] <freerise> probably, i have been running ubuntu for a total of 6 hours so far this lifetime hehehehe
[11:37] <IsAB> :)
[11:38] <IsAB> its a little more than 24h in my case :) havent tried loging on as root on the graphical session thingy
[11:38] <freerise> why is there no right click menu in xfce?
[11:39] <freerise> maybe it's my ver of xfce
[11:39] <IsAB> you can set what right click does on one of xfce's configuration apps, cant remember wich though
[11:39] <IsAB> the desktop one i think
[11:40] <freerise> oh ok, ill find it :)
[11:42] <freerise> so has debian and ubuntu split? or is ubuntu just a lite debian?
[11:44] <freerise> i am not sure if i'm going to plug in my slackware disk again. this seems so nice
[11:45]  * freerise is a sucker for gnome
[11:50] <freerise> hey, instead of searching thru synaptic for gkrellm, can i just enter gkrellm in the search field to grab it?
[11:52] <IsAB> yup
[11:52] <freerise> geez, they almost make it too easy  :-)
[11:52] <IsAB> hehe
[11:55] <freerise> i think it's time to chown all my /home dir data
[11:56] <IsAB> i spent 3+ hours last night tryignt to make a shell script that would read a line from the terminal, turn it into a google search url and pass it to firefox...3 hours for a 3 lines script..and i still didnt get it :/
[11:57] <IsAB> couldnt get past translating spaces to '%20' 's
[11:57] <TheSheep> urllib.quote
[11:58] <IsAB> python?
[11:58] <TheSheep> yes
[11:59] <IsAB> i'll look it up, tnx
[12:00] <freerise> wow, there's like 180,000 add-ons to gkrellm
[12:03] <freerise> looks like i have to grab gnome stuff now
[12:03] <freerise> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
[12:03] <freerise> debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?)
[12:05] <IsAB> is it? :)
[12:06] <freerise> hehehe, the more i grab the better ubuntu gets. maybe i should stop here and get the 47 cd set for debian
[12:07] <IsAB> heh, you'll end up with the gpl version of Vista :)
[12:08] <freerise> lol
[12:08] <freerise> that is a BAD thing
[12:10] <freerise> hey, if i stopped running linux and went back to what i ran before...hey wait, they don't make dos anymore (:
[12:10] <IsAB> ;)
[12:13] <freerise> i always liked gnomes version of mahjonng, now i'll be able to run it once again. kde's is ok but not as nice
[12:14] <freerise> i still have to learn grub. i'm a lilo-brain
[12:18] <freerise> i'll bet my version of ubuntu is old. can the libs and such upgrade like software or am i still forced to download a newly released distro?
[12:19] <freerise> this is ver 7.04
[12:19] <IsAB> synaptic to the rescue :)
[12:19] <freerise> cool
[12:20] <freerise> i might even forget how to script, hehehehehe
[12:25] <freerise> where is my inittab gone to?
[12:27] <freerise> i need more than 6 ttys or i'll have a nervious breakdown
[12:27] <TheSheep> freerise: use screen
[12:29] <freerise> i am used to sending my logs to tty25
[12:43] <bimshire> does anyone here use transmission?
[12:47] <bimshire> never mind
[12:48] <freerise> i think i found a work around
[13:05] <freerise> hm, it still dies on GLIB
[13:09] <freerise> maybe ill drop out to single user and then init 3 and see if that does it
[13:09] <freerise> later
[16:06] <jfalvarez> hey!, I got a problem, I install ubuntu 8.04 beta, just ubuntu, gnome needs a lot of machine reqs, so I install xfce4, so, I never hear about Xubuntu, so I install it on my current Ubuntu (via apt-get install xubuntu-desktop) but now doesn't wotk, I mean start the session but nothing happend
[16:07] <jfalvarez> *work
[16:09] <maxamillion> jfalvarez: installing xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu often causes problems because some packages are replacements for components in ubuntu-desktop
[16:09] <jfalvarez> hum
[16:10] <jfalvarez> maxamillion: hehehe, so I broke my ubuntu, right ?
[16:10] <jfalvarez> :|
[16:14] <maxamillion> jfalvarez: no
[16:15] <maxamillion> jfalvarez: your gnome side is probably fine, but i can't promise the xfce side will work mainly because (iirc) the gnome alternatives will take precedence
[16:16] <jfalvarez> hum sux
[16:16] <jfalvarez> :|
[16:32] <jcgrv06> Hello. Anybody installed xubuntu on a ThinkPad 240?
[17:17] <Andal1> hello at everyone. I have installed in my pc xubuntu. I don't find inittab in /etc. is it normal?
[17:18] <zoredache> yes
[17:18] <Andal1> where is it?
[17:18] <zoredache> the init was upgraded/replaced on ubuntu things you defined in inittab are now defined in a set of files in /etc/event.d
[17:20] <Andal1> however, how could I know, what is my runlevel? :)
[17:20] <Andal1> thanks zoredache :)
[17:21] <zoredache> the default runlevel is 2... you can see that being set in /etc/event.d/rc-default
[17:21] <Andal1> good :) ^_^ thanks ^_^
[17:25] <Andal1> zoredache: good bye :) and good luck
[17:25] <zoredache> bye
[18:05] <noobie> hi
[18:05] <noobie> My desktop crashed every time i tried to run terminal from the menu
[18:06] <noobie> so i changed the color depth to 16
[18:06] <noobie> as was suggested in a bug report
[18:07] <noobie> and now its like my desktop shifted 3 inches to the left and wrapped around to the right
[18:07] <noobie> would anyone know what i can do?
[18:09] <gaurdro> hmm.  could you use pastebin to show us your xorg.conf
[18:10] <noobie> how would i do that?
[18:13] <gaurdro> just a sec
[18:15] <gaurdro> use your favorite text editor to open  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and copy it's contents to http://pastebin.com
[18:15] <noobie> k
[18:16] <noobie>  sec
[18:24] <noobie> im working on pasting it, my linux box is painfully slow
[18:24] <noobie> heh
[18:24] <gaurdro> no worries.
[18:24] <noobielinux> http://mibbit.com/pb/SfXSGa
[18:25] <noobielinux> ok its pasted
[18:31] <gaurdro> hmm.  i don't see anything there.  have you done an auto screen detect with your monitor
[19:51] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: you here?
[19:51] <cody-somerville> aye
[19:52] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: look: http://www.xubuntu.cz
[19:53] <cody-somerville> Hawt :]
[19:54] <cody-somerville> Did... you do that?
[19:56] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: no
[19:56] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: Zelwa form xubuntu-cz
[19:56] <cody-somerville> :)
[19:57] <cody-somerville> Would he be willing to set it up for the main site?
[19:57] <TheSheep> I mean želva
[19:59] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: you want it now? :)
[20:00] <cody-somerville> Sure :]
[20:05] <TheSheep> lol, it's the first time for me when communicating in Polish is easier than in English
[20:10] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: well, I didn't manage to explain, he gone to bed
[20:11] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: I'll try tomorrow :)
[20:14] <cody-somerville> Okay, thanks.
[20:14] <TheSheep> but it looks great
[20:15] <cody-somerville> It does look good. I wonder if he can get the third column to work.
[20:17] <TheSheep> for a Pole the Cech langage looks hilarious :)
[20:18] <TheSheep> they use all the wrong words
[20:18] <TheSheep> Czech*
[20:18] <cody-somerville> :)
[20:18] <cody-somerville> TheSheep: Are you going to be at the UDS?
[20:20] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: is it tasty?
[20:22] <cody-somerville> I imagine so :)
[20:22] <TheSheep> ok, what's that?
[20:22] <TheSheep> and where?
[20:22] <TheSheep> and how much does it cost?
[20:23] <cody-somerville> Ubuntu Developer Summit in Prague
[20:23] <cody-somerville> It is free to attend
[20:24] <TheSheep> when?
[20:24] <TheSheep> Prague is a beautiful city
[20:24] <cody-somerville> May 19th-23rd
[20:24] <TheSheep> that's soon
[20:25] <TheSheep> I'd love to go, will try
[20:25] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: you're coming?
[20:26] <cody-somerville> Yup
[20:36] <cody-somerville> :)
[20:36] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: did you get sponsored to go?
[20:36] <cody-somerville> Yup
[20:37] <maxamillion> that's awesome
[20:37] <maxamillion> congrats
[20:37] <cody-somerville> Thanks :)
[20:38] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: you've been in Europe before?
[20:39] <cody-somerville> Nope
[20:39] <TheSheep> cool!
[20:39]  * cody-somerville is psyched.
[20:39] <TheSheep> :D
[20:56] <cody-somerville> Release candidate cd requires testing.
[20:56] <cody-somerville> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all
[20:56] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: aye aye sir!
[20:56] <cody-somerville> :)
[21:05] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: do I need to register for UDS?
[21:05] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, I dunno about "need" to but you just click a link to do so :)
[21:05] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: can't find it on the wiki
[21:05] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, If you need a hotel, register before May 1st to get the special discount
[21:06] <cody-somerville> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid
[21:06] <cody-somerville> https://edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-intrepid
[21:06] <TheSheep> what's 'interpid'?
[21:08] <cody-somerville> The name of the next release.
[21:08] <cody-somerville> and also the name of the UDS
[21:09] <TheSheep> confusing
[21:09] <TheSheep> so what is the full name of the next release?
[21:09] <TheSheep> !intrepid
[21:09] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[21:09] <TheSheep> wtf is ibex???
[21:10] <zoredache> a goat
[21:10] <TheSheep> moonshine and madness
[21:10] <cody-somerville> gotta jet, bbiab
[23:24] <Tu13es> anyone know how I'd go about setting up my keyboard layout to switch between us and dvorak with a hotkey?
[23:40] <NekoKun> What's the difference between Alternate and Desktop releases?
[23:41] <zoredache> !alternate
[23:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[23:43] <NekoKun> !minimal
[23:43] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD