[00:00] <ken_> thanks genii
[00:00] <genii> ken_: Hopefully enough there to get you on right track
[00:01] <beener> genii you know how i get my partition mounted im getting this error hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[00:01] <genii> beener: Sorry, I have not enough time to help you right now
[00:03] <beener> alright thanks anyways
[00:03] <dwidmann> the hardy installer has one change that is horrible :(
[00:04] <beener> is there a simple way of geting through this
[00:07] <genii> beener: May help: http://languor.us/hal-storage-fixed-mount-refused-uid-1000
[00:09] <lovre> back. tried xfce. First impression: tooo few options... Not much i could change about look and feel... Im looking for something "different".. any idea?
[00:10] <nosrednaekim> enlightenment?
[00:10] <genii> lovre: PErhaps fluxbox
[00:10] <Jucato> what kind of "different" are you looking for?
[00:10] <beener> dont go for flux
[00:10] <lovre> beener: why not?
[00:11] <Jucato> let him. it's his choice whether to try or not :)
[00:12] <lovre> Jucato: i need something efficient, yet a little different. And maybe somewhat lighter..
[00:12] <beener> well i have it running on a crap desktop and it just doesnt work so great
[00:12] <lovre> dunno, maybe im just spoiled :S
[00:12] <beener> the menu useing the left click never updates yo9u have to mount manualy
[00:12] <lovre> :(
[00:13] <Jucato> Efficient? Different? Light? KDE with a completely different theme  and less stuff installed :)
[00:13] <lovre> beener: do you have another idea?
[00:14] <lovre> Jucato: yea, i suppose  you are right :))
[00:14] <lovre> brb, trying out the fluxbox.. Be back in a min
[00:14] <Jucato> I don't get the need for something "light" unless you're running on a P1 with 64 MB RAM :)
[00:14] <sparr_> lovre: there are MANY window managers, and a major consideration is how much work youre willing to do to make it work the way you want
[00:14] <Jucato> (someone has run Kubuntu on a P2 with less than 512B)
[00:14] <Jucato> MB*
[00:14] <sparr_> danbm nussed gun
[00:15] <genii> Jucato: I'm running it on a p2 400 with 3.2Gb hd and 128Mb of ram
[00:15] <Jucato> genii: 128MB is less than 512MB right? :P
[00:16] <genii> Jucato: Considerably less, yes :)
[00:17] <user1>  using linux,i have some friends sharing my internet. i have 30k vacant and 3 friends. is there a way that i define the combine band limit for 3 users combined as 30 k . not 10k for each. that way if 2 are  online they can share 15k each. and if all 3 are online. they will be spreaded 10k each in managed behaviour. any way.i have a dlink switch. and in futer i may take a fourth one and give him a dedicated 20k limit alone. so i need control?
[00:17] <user1> by wondershaper or ebox. or any other, what i have in mind is 30k for 3 users. if all are online 10k is given to each. if 2 are online 15k to each. 1 then 30k to him. and other 4th user gets 20k seperat dedi bandwidth.. how can i do it?
[00:19] <lovre> back
[00:20] <lovre> can i startx in more than one virtual terminal?
[00:20] <genii> lovre: Yes
[00:20] <lovre> genii: how, i get an error
[00:20] <genii> lovre: You need to specify :1  since :0 is in use
[00:21] <lovre> genii: startx 1 ?
[00:21] <genii> lovre: Don't omit the colon. eg:    startx :1
[00:21] <lovre> genii: ill try, thank you
[00:21] <beener> ... i screwed something up
[00:22] <beener> i cant get into any programs that arnt already up
[00:23] <lovre> genii: it says: server is allready for display 0. i did "starx :1", with a space..
[00:23] <beener> i tried to setup the drive to be mounted in the home folder and now i cant open anything
[00:23] <beener> not even the terminal
[00:23] <beener> what should i do
[00:23] <genii> lovre: Give me a minute or two, I'm swamped in other channels here
[00:24] <beener> sayin its bee mal formatid
[00:24] <lovre> genii: its ok, i figured it out. it was: "startx -- :1"
[00:26] <genii> lovre: startx -- :1    Yes :) I forgot the --
[00:26] <genii> beener: It says what?
[00:26] <lovre> genii: it runs xfce. Can i specify to run some other wm, like kde?
[00:27] <beener> say the other partion is mal formated
[00:27] <lovre> genii: and when i switch back to this vt, the other one crashes
[00:28] <_ZeuZ_> !reduce memory usage
[00:29] <_ZeuZ_> @reduce memory usage
[00:29] <beener> what should i do?
[00:30] <genii> lovre: You can put any options there you could put into an .Xsession  or .xinitrc file, yes. so startx -- :1 & startkde &                           or so
[00:31] <Jucato> startkde should bring up X
[00:31] <Jucato> er no.. sorry
[00:31] <Jucato> wrong one :P
[00:31] <beener> nothing else will open up
[00:32] <genii> beener: Frankly, that doesn't look hopeful to recover from. It looks like you may have just done something to your / partition
[00:32] <beener> but i set it to the /home which is on a totaly difrent partition
[00:33] <beener> well im going to boot up a live cd and delet the partition. maybe that will fix it
[00:33] <genii> beener: What were the EXACT steps you took that caused this to happen? In order
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[00:33] <beener> system settings
[00:33] <beener> then the disk and file system
[00:34] <beener> then went into the admin mode and set the new partition to auto enable then set it to mount to /home/beener/beener drive 2
[00:34] <beener> then it screwed up
[00:35] <genii> The GUI diskmounter occasionally has some hiccup and inserts arbitrary code into fstab. If possible let us see whats in that file, put it onto the pastebin website and give the url here
[00:35] <genii> beener:The GUI diskmounter occasionally has some hiccup and inserts arbitrary code into fstab. If possible let us see whats in that file, put it onto the pastebin website and give the url here
[00:36] <beener> ill try to find it out
[00:36] <genii> beener: The file /etc/fstab contents
[00:37] <beener> maybe i can use firefox
[00:37] <beener> sence it still open
[00:38] <beener> http://pastebin.com/mb9e531e
[00:38] <genii> Reading
[00:38] <beener> thanks
[00:41] <genii> beener: You mounted whatever to your home directory of /home/beener     So: sudo umount /home beener                         and then remove that line from in the /etc/fstab by: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[00:41] <beener> how i cant get into thte terminal
[00:41] <beener> this is a reach can firefox dothis?
[00:42] <genii> beener: ctrl-alt-f1   then do the commandline stuff. eg: sudo umount /home/beener                      then back to X by: alt-f7
[00:43] <genii> You'll need to login there, use your normal login/pass
[00:43] <beener> thanks
[00:44]  * genii sips his beer and waits for the next small emergency
[00:44] <beener> is it alt f7 or ctrl alt f7
[00:44] <genii> beener: Either will work but you only need alt-f7 from commandline to gui, from gui to commandline you require the ctrl with the alt-f1
[00:45] <beener> thanks
[00:45] <beener> brb
[00:45] <harmental> hey guys..how can i make self-contained presentations with OOo?
[00:46] <Jucato> !openoffice
[00:46] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[00:47] <genii> harmental: Use the Impress ("Powerpoint") part?
[00:47]  * genii hands Jucato a coffee
[00:48] <beener> and genii  sudo umount /home beener
[00:48] <beener> should that have a /
[00:49] <genii> beener: sudo umount /home/beener                    yes. DON'T un-mount /home    !!
[00:50] <harmental> genii: there is no such option as far as i know...
[00:50] <harmental> (at least not in OOo)
[00:50] <beener> beener is the one that has been there from the begining the other place i mounted was beener drive 2 < it shouldnt be this one (just wanting to not mess up things)
[00:51] <corporeal> steve ballmer scares me.
[00:51] <genii> harmental: I suggest getting into internals of Impress with the folks in #users.openoffice.org as suggested by Jucato
[00:52] <harmental> genii and Jucato: no response there....
[00:53] <genii> beener: Any users home directory is like:  /home/theirname       and not just /home         you mounted something to the "root" of your home directory (/home/beener) which is why things stopped working. You didn't mount it to /home/beener/some-subdir-name  as you perhaps intended
[00:53] <beener> ic ok
[00:53] <beener> ill go through with it then
[00:58] <beener> er says its busy
[00:59] <genii> beener: then use: sudo umount -f /home/beener
[01:00] <beener> ok thanks
[01:00] <beener> still no go
[01:00] <beener> say device or resource busy
[01:01] <genii> beener: Then do the other step of alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/fstab    and remove that /home/beener line. Save the file. Then reboot (softly if possible)
[01:02] <beener> without gui or no?
[01:02] <genii> beener: With
[01:03] <godkas> anyone know where mplayer seeks its plugin directory?
[01:04] <beener> cant opent he kate programe
[01:04] <beener> vi should work right?
[01:04] <beener> in without gui
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> since vi is the work of satan, i have to recommend nano for a simple edit such as that
[01:05] <genii> beener: OK, if you have a konsole open or so, use: sudo nano /etc/fstab     or vi  or the commandline editor of your choice with admin privelege (sudo) If no Konsole do the ctrl-alt-f1 and from there
[01:06] <godkas> :p i almost always use kwrite lol
[01:06] <epimeth> emacs
[01:06] <epimeth> emacs
[01:06] <epimeth> emacs
[01:06] <epimeth> :-)
[01:06] <godkas> ? tuerets?
[01:06] <bittin> emacs =) emacs =) emacs =)
[01:07] <epimeth> it happens whenever I hear the word "vi" :-)
[01:07] <genii> bah editor warz
[01:07] <beener> how do i exit and save
[01:07] <beener> in vi
[01:07] <epimeth> lol
[01:08] <epimeth> !qw'
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qw' - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Kingflake> is EXT4 in ubuntu?
[01:08] <epimeth> !qw
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <genii> beener:    !qw      yes
[01:08] <Kingflake> !ext4
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <beener> thanks
[01:08] <genii> Kingflake: No, it is not
[01:08] <Kingflake> ok
[01:11] <Alucard_Hellsing> i need help with internet sharing. i have a kubuntu machine  a win machine, and xbox 360. i want to share my internet connectin with the other two machine but i have altell dialup and i dont know how to share the connection with kubunut
[01:12] <Alucard_Hellsing> i could share it with my win but my internet dialer went down on that machine so it si no good
[01:14] <beener> alright finaly got it to be able to save
[01:14] <beener> restarting now
[01:17] <genii> beener: If it refuses to let you from KDE  go to ctrl-alt-f1 again and do: sudo reboot
[01:18] <_ZeuZ_> !nspluginviewer
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginviewer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <beener_> thank you genii
[01:19] <beener_> alright ... now to try to mount again...
[01:19] <genii> beener_: Now you know why not to use /home/yourname as a mount point ;)
[01:20] <beener_> lol thank you
[01:20] <beener_> so we would be the best place to mount to?
[01:20] <genii> beener_: Tradition is make a dir under /media or /mnt and then use that
[01:21] <genii> beener_: /media is likely good since you can brose it from file browser normally
[01:21] <beener_> so like put /media/beener2
[01:21] <genii> beener_: Yes
[01:21] <beener_> thanks
[01:22] <genii> I need to take a small trip to pick up a paycheque. So will be unresponsive and /away for maybe 15 minutes
[01:22] <chronos_> How can I get the sun jre?
[01:23] <bragoo08> chronos: google java
[01:24] <chronos_> Well, I've got the package off the site, I just don't know where to install it to
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> what-s vbesave ?
[01:24] <jhutchins> !java
[01:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> !vbesave
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vbesave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <gtt> what port do i need to unblock so that cups can print?
[01:27] <Super_BQ> how do I install ident ?
[01:27] <Super_BQ> for my irc - everytime it comes up no ident when I connect from my windows box through the kubuntu box
[01:28] <jhutchins> Super_BQ: You trying to get ident.d working for IRC?
[01:29] <beener_> thanks genii all fixed
[01:29] <jhutchins> Super_BQ: Not worth the effort.
[01:29] <_ZeuZ_> used - buffer - cached = memory that's actually being used, right?
[01:44] <will01> hey does anyone think i would have problems installing kubuntu on a 4 gig cf card?
[01:45] <FFForever> can i convert a kubuntu install into a server install (remove kde and all of that stuff)
[01:48] <epimeth> FFForever: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <epimeth> :-)
[01:49]  * nonewmsgs has discovered the hard way that hardy really _is_ a beta
[01:49] <genii> FFForever: Log out of KDE. Then ctrl-alt-f1    then: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop          then:sudo apt-get install tasksel     then: sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop                 then: sudo tasksel            from there select LAMP install
[01:49] <genii> epimeth: Thats one of gthe steps, yes :)
[01:50] <FFForever> genii no monitor :)
[01:50] <genii> FFForever: You're in by vnc or so?
[01:50] <FFForever> ssh :)
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> how can I remove a no-longer-used kernel?
[01:51] <FFForever> its good to keep 1 spare kernel.....
[01:52] <_ZeuZ_> along, of course, of his headers, modules, and all that parafernalie...
[01:52] <epimeth> genii: way to show me up
[01:52] <genii> FFForever:  then: sudo apt-get install tasksel     then: sudo tasksel            from there select LAMP install      after it finishes the stopping kdm/removal of kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <_ZeuZ_> FFForever, yes, but I've got like, 5? not counting the ones from Debian...
[01:52] <genii> epimeth: I was typing all that before you replied, nothing personal
[01:52] <will01> does anyone see a problem with installing kubuntu to a 4 gig cf card/
[01:53] <genii> will01: Not if your computer supports boot from there
[01:53] <epimeth> genii: I know :-)
[01:53] <FFForever> genii, know why i can mount a cifs dir, but i cannot browse it via samba even if i unmount it
[01:53] <genii> FFForever: Not offhand
[01:53] <jontec> I'm trying to mount a drive with sudo, but I want to be able to view the volume without having to be root... what options do I need for my mount command?
[01:53] <FFForever> :(
[01:54] <FFForever> could it be because it is the second network card on the system?
[01:54] <genii> jontec: something like -o user           or -o users
[01:55] <nonewmsgs> jontec a normal mount should work?  if not adjust the fsck file
[01:55] <nonewmsgs> and if you need any help im here
[01:55] <robf> when ya change window effects settings and it bunges everything up,  how exactly can I fix this?
[01:56] <robf> it says "in 10 seconds we'll >>>" do something but then after bout 10 seconds it doesn't revert so not sure wth its doing =  I have to clear my users .kde4/  directory to remove the settings I changed
[01:56] <jontec> genii, nonewmsgs: I tried the users option before, but it says that I "do not have enough permissions to read" it... I just tried it again, but to no avail
[01:56] <jontec> (after unmounting)
[01:57] <nonewmsgs> sudo kate /etc/fsck
[01:58] <genii> jontec: eg:   sudo mount -o users /dev/whatever /mountpoint                        and /mountpoint must be somewhere the user has access, like /media/somename  or /home/theirname/subdirectory
[01:58] <nonewmsgs> fstab i mean
[01:59] <nonewmsgs> edit your fstab so the last line looks like this:
[01:59] <smeg0l> any one from denmark in here ?
[01:59] <nonewmsgs>  /dev/hdb1 /home/william/newdrive1 ext3 rw,defaults,uid=1000 0 0
[01:59] <nonewmsgs> adjusting ext3 with whatever and the mountpoint ;)
[02:00] <nonewmsgs> and the drive
[02:00] <genii> nonewmsgs: You're making several unbased assumptions
[02:01] <robf> is there a way to make kongueror NOT gimme that annoying start up screen and just start in say,  google or about:blank
[02:01] <genii> nonewmsgs: eg: it's ext3, he's using user of uid 1000, he needs write access
[02:01] <jontec> genii: that's exactly what I tried :( and /mountpoint is owned by the user, not root
[02:02] <jontec> nonewmsgs: changing the fstab does what?
[02:02] <robf> jontec: makes it mount there?
[02:02] <robf> heh
[02:02] <jontec> nonewmsgs: are those the defaults for a mount, or do these get mounted at startup
[02:02] <jontec> robf: yeah, I can read it as root
[02:02] <robf> they mount at startup if automount is set true
[02:03] <robf> if not than they're just the directories mount point for mount /mount/point
[02:03] <robf> jontec: and permissions that are being read?
[02:03] <genii> jontec: The fstab holds sort of hints about how to mount some devices. They can have an fstab entry be not be automounted at boot for instance but just specify filesystem or so on
[02:03] <robf> jontec: if you have files on ext3,  and they're owned by a uid / group outside your current user (except root)   then simply you have no perms
[02:04] <jontec> robf: I'll specify, this is ntfs, so my windows drive...
[02:04] <robf> have root simply do a chgrp  and recursively apply a group setting to the who drive,  add user to group,  solved
[02:04] <robf> oh
[02:04] <robf> ntfs is bad news ;p
[02:05] <genii> jontec: What robf suggests is likely the case here, that the mounted contents are not owned/accessible to the username normally anyhow
[02:05] <robf> it has weird permisions,  half time ignored,  half time obliged... makes for wonky workings
[02:05] <robf> jontec:  example of my previous mention,     I ,  robf as a user,  once came across a cd of mine,    owner of files,  robf...
[02:05] <robf> jontec: however this robf was uid different than mine ;p  cos was from another system ...doh
[02:06] <robf> so couldn't do anything with em ,  was really annoying
[02:06] <jontec> this is a reinstall of kubuntu, and I've never had problems with it before :( But on the reinstall System Settings has been weird, so I'm just doing it from the commandline because I don't feel like trying to get it to work
[02:06] <robf> root copied them over set me as owner and was good to go
[02:06] <robf> jontec: reinstall + wipe?  or reinstall with existing files still in place... not sure if kubuntu supports such or not,   not really up on the distro specifics
[02:06] <jontec> robf: okay, so how do I get the files set for my uid or any for that matter
[02:07] <robf> jontec: well,  chown and chgrp =)
[02:07] <jontec> robf: I wiped my linux partition and reinstalled
[02:07] <robf> wait this is for ntfs though ya?
[02:07] <jontec> robf: yeah, I'm on kubuntu, trying to mount my windows drive which is ntfs
[02:07] <robf> ntfs permissions are a strange lil kitten
[02:07] <genii> ouch, chmod/chown on ntfs is .... messy... to say the least
[02:07] <robf> not even sure how nix handles them,  if at all
[02:08] <robf> yeah don't ch anything
[02:08] <robf> genii: mess?  nah,   work?  also no
[02:08] <robf> may do strange tings..
[02:08] <robf> never tried tbh
[02:08] <robf> lemme mount up a ntfs partition realy quick if I got one hold a moment
[02:08] <genii> jontec: Whats the mount line yer currently trying?
[02:09] <robf> drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev     0 2008-04-12 23:28 Blue Oyster Cult
[02:09] <robf> look at owner of who mounted drive
[02:09] <robf> genii:  I simply mount as root
[02:10] <robf> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/point
[02:10] <robf> its usually smart enough
[02:10] <robf> now jontec which user is responsible for mounting?
[02:10] <robf> or better yet
[02:10] <robf> try this
[02:10] <genii> jontec: If I have dev and mountpoint I'll give an fstab line
[02:10] <robf> make your user member of plugdev ;p
[02:10] <robf> group
[02:10] <jontec> genii: I'm just using mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/jontec/windows
[02:10] <genii> robf: That sometimes works also
[02:10] <jontec> give or take a couple of options
[02:10] <jontec> genii: err... with sudo
[02:11] <robf> jontec: problem is this
[02:11] <genii> jontec: OK, so:   /dev/hda1 /home/jontec/windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
[02:11] <robf> jontec:  it's mounted as root owner,   plugdev group
[02:11] <robf> jontec: type this as user "groups"
[02:11] <robf> do you see plugdev?
[02:12] <genii> jontec: Add to /etc/fstab (with admin privelege)    then: mount ~/windows
[02:12] <genii> Interesting. hda and not sda
[02:13] <robf> genii:  still seems he'll have permission issues if he is not member of the group,  this needs to be ensured....
[02:13] <robf> or maybe I'm confused as to his problem,
[02:13] <jontec> excellent, guys, that worked
[02:13] <robf> what was his problem :p  now I'm confused =)
[02:13] <genii> robf: The dmask and fmask cover the user group stuff
[02:14] <robf> ah ok
[02:14] <robf> didn't see that
[02:14] <robf> was on diff line ;p
[02:14] <robf> by default seems it mounts as plugdev,  which my default user has a member of this group anyhow
[02:14] <robf> so I have no permission problems it seems
[02:16] <jontec> genii: what exactly did that line do in fstab?
[02:16] <robf> so with konqureor  (usually I just use FF :p )   but I wish for it to not start with stupid "into" page,  just go into  google
[02:16] <robf> even though i set this as home page it loads that annoying intro crap =\
[02:16] <robf> jontec: set the masks for readabiltiy/execut
[02:17] <robf> jontec: man umask
[02:17] <robf> same idea
[02:17] <robf> only for file / directory
[02:17] <genii> jontec: It mounts readonly with the directory mask and file mask write settings such that regular users can write to it
[02:17] <genii> read/write to it
[02:18] <robf> er man mount heh not umask ><
[02:18] <jontec> robf, genii: okay, gracias, this should actually be better than I had it setup on my last installtion... my primary user had access, so I had to use kdesu to view the files as another user
[02:19] <robf> heh
[02:19] <jontec> installation*
[02:19] <robf> jontec: also,  by default,  if you just make a user to be in group plugdev ntfs mounts ought be ok from the begining
[02:19] <robf> I think also this gives them ability to mount such devices
[02:19] <prince_jammys> i'm not seeing how those mask settings would allow writing
[02:20] <jontec> robf: :( my user does belong to the plugdev group...
[02:20] <robf> jontec: ah
[02:20] <robf> no idea why it would work normally does for me =p
[02:20] <robf> but you should be ok now
[02:20] <robf> genii has you right
[02:20] <jontec> alright, thanks again
[02:21] <genii> jontec: You running older Kubuntu? hda1 seems to me from before 7.04
[02:21] <jontec> genii: I'm using 7.04, actually
[02:21] <prince_jammys> do you intend to be able to write to the partition?
[02:21] <genii> jontec: Ah, OK. I think then the change would be from that to 7.10, they are all now sdX and not hdX
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> genii: even here on hardy, I still get hda's
[02:23] <genii> nosrednaekim: Interesting. I imagine for base device of CD/DVD
[02:23] <robf> eh hda = pata sda = sata
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> genii: nope, its my hard drive
[02:24] <robf> ide vs sata ;p
[02:24] <robf> i have one hda and sdb/sda
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> I have hda1,2,3,4,5,6,7.,8 :)
[02:24] <robf> two serial ata and one IDE paralelle ata
[02:24] <robf> though parallel is better way to spell
[02:24] <genii> My sata is currently in compatability mode so conceivably should be hdX but it's sdX
[02:25] <genii> I guess somewhere in the kernel driver for hd controller it decides which name if scsi layer is needed
[02:25] <robf> ja
[02:36] <bobwwwww> ыыыыыыыы есть кто живой?
[02:36] <genii> !ru
[02:36] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[02:36] <sparr_> why would my shell be interpreting (which is to say, sending to perl) the single quote (') character as \xE2 instead of \x27 ?
[02:37] <genii> sparr_: They may know intricate details of that in ##bash
[02:39] <sparr_> genii: but it could be a konsole problem
[02:40] <genii> sparr_: Does it behave differently from a console you get from ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[02:41] <sparr_> genii: yes
[02:41] <sparr_> thanks for asking
[02:41] <sparr_> now i think its certainly a konsole problem  :)
[02:43] <genii> sparr_: Likely then. As for the fix/reason I don't have a clue. Perhaps file a bug on launchpad (or search for an already filed one)
[02:47] <epsilom> HI, in this moment I update to 8.04 from 7.10, but the download packages is very very slow, why?
[02:47] <genii> epsilom: They are doing much work on those servers, the release candidate is coming out tomorrow. So it's just overloaded
[02:48] <epsilom> mmmm ok
[03:18] <DarkShinigami> !ps3
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <DarkShinigami> Someone told me that K/Ubuntu has a version for the PlayStation 3. Is this true?
[03:20] <genii> DarkShinigami: Yes, it's true
[03:20] <DarkShinigami> genii: Thanks. Where would I find this information?
[03:21] <will00> how easy would it be to configure konqueror to only allow one specific website?
[03:21] <genii> DarkShinigami: This may get you started http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343113
[03:22] <DarkShinigami> will00: I recall something about setting it up as a "kiosk". This was a few years ago, but should still be relevant.
[03:22] <will00> yea i was lookin at that stuff, but does kiosk have that option in it?
[03:26] <bruce__> hello
[03:26] <bittin> hi bruce__
[03:27] <bruce__> I am new to linux and have a question
[03:27] <bittin> !ask
[03:27] <bittin> ask it then =)
[03:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:28] <xim> speaking of... in kde4, how does one turn off ALL SOUND NOTIFICATIONS in one go?
[03:28] <bruce__> sometimes programs jam. Is there a way to close them down without logging out of linux first
[03:28] <xim> i loved that option in kde3.5x
[03:29] <Odd-rationale> bruce__: you can open ksystemguard and kill the process there.
[03:29] <bittin> and to open that u press ctrl + escape
[03:29] <bruce__> thanks
[03:29] <Odd-rationale> bruce__: or you can do it a terminal like: killall konqueror
[03:30] <genii> bruce__: You can also forcibly kill them usually by: ctrl-alt-esc then put the big X on the offending/lockedup app
[03:30] <Odd-rationale> yeah but be careful you don't click the desktop by accident...
[03:30] <genii> Odd-rationale: Heh, yes. I've done this
[03:31] <bruce__> if you do can you reboot and get your desktop back?
[03:31] <xim> yes
[03:31] <Odd-rationale> bruce__: alt+f2 and type in "kdesktop" should work
[03:31] <xim> or hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[03:32] <xim> (only in a pinch!)
[03:35] <bruce__> thanks I will try it.
[03:36] <xim> but seriously, the only way i've found in kde4 to turn off all sound notifications is by turning off sound for notifications (which means they're still loading and also that I can't just allow 1 sound only etc). before kde4, i could always just hit 'disable all sounds' then enable the couple i actually need. I've seen this problem mentioned all over in lame reviews like http://eikke.com/kde4-reviewed/ w/o any solution so that's why i'm
[03:36] <xim> asking here. Anyone a brave kde4 soul?
[03:44] <genii> xim: Apparently not
[03:44] <xim> :( Thanks for the confirmation at least.
[03:44] <genii> xim: You may find some if they are to be had, in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:45] <xim> ah, thanks a lot
[03:45] <genii> np
[03:46] <xim> per curiousity, if you had to guess where / how would you look for the settings file for these prefs? I'm assuming it's a plain text file somewhere
[03:46] <xim> i'm new to this, but am blindly assuming that :)
[03:48] <genii> no idea
[03:48] <xim> Cool. Thanks just the same of course. :)
[03:56] <pramod> I want to enable write permission on Kubuntu... can anyone please help me?
[03:56] <pramod> :D
[03:56] <genii> pramod: What is it you are requiring writing access to?
[03:57] <pramod> I got Windows as welll
[03:57] <Super_BQ> ugh. still battling with Samba
[03:57] <genii> Super_BQ: Kaj?
[03:57] <pramod> so i want to copy a file from the Kubuntu local partition to the Windows partition...
[03:58] <Super_BQ> genii: sorry?
[03:58] <Super_BQ> genii: for some reason my Windows box won't login into my Samba Kubuntu box
[03:58] <genii> Super_BQ: Another user with that name and Samba struggles earlier on
[03:58] <Super_BQ> perhaps that was me :)
[03:58] <genii> And exact same issue it seems
[03:59] <genii> pramod: What is the partition name of the ntfs (or fat/vfat) ?
[03:59] <Super_BQ> I had it going by changing the smb.conf file line from user to share
[03:59] <xim> Super_BQ:Does your password/username have weird characters in it? ie !@#$%^&*(>?
[03:59] <Super_BQ> it's a password/dbase issue it hink
[03:59] <xim> right
[03:59] <Super_BQ> xim: yes if you say an underscore is unusual
[03:59] <pramod> it is ntfs itself...
[03:59] <xim> yeah
[03:59] <pramod> well it is an ntfs partition itself...
[04:00] <Super_BQ> but it use to work before I did the upgrade
[04:00] <xim> sadly, i found no workaround other than changing my pass
[04:00] <genii> pramod: eg: is it called /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdx9     etc etc
[04:00] <pramod> no fat file system...
[04:00] <xim> it also had a similar character
[04:00] <pramod> ah wait
[04:00] <Super_BQ> i'll try a different pass
[04:00] <pramod> media/hdb1/
[04:01] <xim> it's worth a go, though i still don't understand why that isn't fixed. I had a ' and an _ in my password. Removing that allowed login, YMMV.
[04:02] <Super_BQ> hah and when I try on my windows box to click on the shared shortcut, it rejects new password
[04:03] <Super_BQ> I think that's because I have to ALSO change the Ubuntu user password to the same as the smbpasswd one?
[04:03] <genii> pramod: OK. First in Konsole: umount /media/hdb1    then in Kubuntu: alt-f2        then: kdesu kate /etc/fstab                  then add the line:  /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0                          if another line there contains anywhere in it hdb1 put a # at the start of that line. Save the file. Then again in Konsole: sudo mount /media/hdb1
[04:04] <genii> pramod: You may need sudo umount /media/hdb1         in that first command
[04:04] <pramod> ok i try it...
[04:06] <genii> Super_BQ: I need to leave soon, just want to see finish pramod's situation. Otherwise I would try to help more.
[04:07] <genii> pramod: Let me know the result, success or not
[04:07] <Super_BQ> would be easier if someone could just login my box and fix
[04:08] <pramod> well thanks
[04:08] <pramod> it copies the program....
[04:09] <pramod> i mean it copies the file....
[04:09] <genii> pramod: Good :)
[04:09] <genii> /parting is such sweet sorrow :)
[04:09] <pramod> but i also get a message:
[04:09] <pramod> "Could not change permissions for
[04:09] <pramod> /media/hdb1/Win Documents/My Music/Hindi/MP3/3wh2(www.songs.pk).mp3"
[04:10] <xim> pramod:http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.ntfs-3g
[04:11] <xim> i might be way off, but that's what I've used in the past to mount ntfs
[04:12] <xim> in any case, if you have permissions problems, try starting your file manager w/ root permissions and giving your username (ie pramod) write access?
[04:13] <xim> kdesu konqueror /media/hdb1/Win Documents/My Music/Hindi/MP3/
[04:14] <Super_BQ> maybe remove and reinstall samba?
[04:15] <xim> doubt that'll help
[04:15] <xim> i still advise changing login credentials
[04:16] <Super_BQ> you mean the smb.credential file?
[04:17] <xim> more generally, i mean changing u:/p: to avoid certain characters
[04:17] <Super_BQ> i did that
[04:17] <Super_BQ> no dice
[04:17] <xim> oh, sorry
[04:17] <Super_BQ> perhaps I should add a new user
[04:17] <xim> honestly, idk
[04:17] <xim> couldn't hurt
[04:18] <xim> if you did, i'd be curious what happens
[04:18] <xim> ie, logging in with new U:Peter P:pass from windows does what? etc
[04:22] <toyo|desk> hello all
[04:22] <bittin> Hi
[04:23] <toyo|desk> I have a 64bit kubuntu install and I was wondering what packages I need to install to get the 32bit libogg.so.0 libvorbis.so.0 and libtheora.so.0
[04:23] <Super_BQ> when I create a new account, I still have to command line type smbpasswd -L -a (new account name) ?
[04:23] <Super_BQ> or does it auto do it in Samba?
[04:24] <anais> es?
[04:24] <anais> espanish
[04:25] <anais> espanish
[04:25] <Jucato> !es | anais
[04:25] <ubotu> anais: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:25] <cparker> Are there separate Kubuntu repos, or does Kubuntu just install everything from ubuntu.org?
[04:25] <xim> No entiendo. No hablo español
[04:26] <Tamin> Quick question: I'm under the impression I can upgrade straight from 6.10 to 8.04, simply by following the normal rules (changing 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list to 'hardy' and running the apt-get commands). Is there any reason this won't work?
[04:26] <xim> Super_BQ:not sure. to be honest, I use ssh or ftp almost exclusively. Else, zeroconf:// to access things.
[04:27] <Tamin> After I had started upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10, I realized there was built-in support for a straight 6.06 -> 8.04 upgrade, but by then it was too late
[04:30] <Super_BQ> ok I think I might of fixed it
[04:30] <Super_BQ> brb - need to reboot
[04:32] <bishop_> hi
[04:32] <xim> halo
[04:33] <bishop_> whatsupp xim
[04:34] <bishop_> i need sum cool icons any body good any ideas
[04:35] <toyo|desk> ugh
[04:35] <Jucato> http://kde-look.org
[04:35] <xim> beat me to it jucato ;)
[04:35] <Jucato> :P
[04:35] <toyo|desk> why do the ia32-libs not include libogg.so.0
[04:36]  * toyo|desk dosent understand
[04:36] <bishop_> thank you!
[04:36] <xim> gg:kde icons
[04:36] <Jucato> !changethemes | bishop_, for your theming guide
[04:36] <ubotu> bishop_, for your theming guide: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[04:37] <bishop_> thankz ubotu
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> !thanks | bishop_
[04:39] <ubotu> bishop_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:39] <toyo|desk> lol
[04:39] <toyo|desk> :D
[04:39] <Tamin> Anyone know if I can perform said upgrade? I was already planning on upgrading piecemeal, but if I can do it all at once...
[04:39] <bishop_> =/ lol
[04:40] <toyo|desk> anyone know how I can get that libogg.so.0 installed?
[04:40] <toyo|desk> in 32bit
[04:41] <xim> !thanks | xim
[04:41] <xim> whoa, that's nifty
[04:42] <xim> lol
[04:42] <toyo|desk> lol
[04:42] <toyo|desk> !ia32-libs | toyo|desk
[04:42] <xim> the bot even scolded me! schweet!
[04:42] <xim> lol
[04:42] <toyo|desk> hmm
[04:42] <xim> yeah, sorry about your ogg problem
[04:42] <Odd-rationale> !helpersnack | xim
[04:42] <ubotu> xim: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[04:43] <toyo|desk> it dosent know about ia32-libs
[04:43] <xim> hot damn, i think i'm in love
[04:43] <xim> !cyber | xim
[04:43] <xim> damn
[04:44] <toyo|desk> !usage
[04:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:44] <xim> yeah, i was just browsing that actually
[04:44] <xim> that's extremely handy
[04:48] <toyo|desk> !rootirc
[04:48] <toyo|desk> aww
[04:48] <ubotu> It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[04:48] <toyo|desk> woot
[04:48] <xim> :P
[05:11] <Danish989> Hi all!
[05:12] <Danish989> I installed ubuntu and grub loader gets an error 22 on stage 1.5 and I've been told it's because I have 2 SATA hard disks and Grub Loader isn't pointing the loader at the right direction because of that
[05:12] <Danish989> does anyone know if I'll have the same problems with kubuntu?
[05:20] <edoceo> Is the the beta channel or .... ?
[05:21] <Danish989> edoceo: beta for hardy heron you mean?
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> edoceo: no. beta channel is #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <Danish989> edoceo: try #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <edoceo> thx
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> edoceo: kde4 channel in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:21] <micha__> how do i install the kubuntu resticted driver manager in systemsettings
[05:21] <Danish989> can you help me, odd-rationale?
[05:21] <Danish989> I installed ubuntu and grub loader gets an error 22 on stage 1.5 and I've been told it's because I have 2 SATA hard disks and Grub Loader isn't pointing the loader at the right direction because of that
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> Danish989: I don't think so. sorry.
[05:22] <Danish989> okie, thanks anyway
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> Danish989: you might try reinstalling grub on the correct device
[05:22] <Danish989> Odd-rationale: I did try, but I'm a linux noob and lets just say that didn't work out too well
[05:23] <micha__> how do i install the kubuntu resticted driver manager in systemsettings
[05:23] <micha__> sudo apt-get install restricted-manage did install but the manager isn't in system settings
[05:29] <micha__> somebody know how the package name for the restricted manager
[05:29] <Odd-rationale> restricted-manager-kde
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> another day, amarok still peeves me
[05:36]  * Daisuke_Ido is tempted to jump ship for exaile :D
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> I wonder if exaile will mimic amarok 2
[05:39] <bragoo08> Amorok isn't realy the best player
[05:41] <hydrogen> Odd-rationale: I'm sure if it doesn't, another player will be created that does
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> hydrogen: i thought so too
[05:41] <hydrogen> because everyone knows its much better to spend ones time reinventing the wheel
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> bragoo08: what do you like?
[05:42] <shadowbox> hello
[05:42] <bragoo08> I use both mplayer and RealPlayer!
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you can't possibly be serious
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> mplayer, cool.  but realplayer?
[05:43] <Odd-rationale> bragoo08: so you really don't use a music management software?
[05:43] <shadowbox> how can I my mouse to stop 'pasting' when I click the wheel?
[05:43] <vaio> hello.
[05:43] <vaio> i need help
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> shadowbox, afaik, that's built into X itself, so not the easiest thing to disable
[05:44] <bragoo08> Odd-rationale: Nope!
[05:44] <vaio> can anybody helo me out
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> vaio, don't we all...
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> just ask your question.
[05:44] <vaio> ok
[05:44] <vaio> This is Eggdrop's GNU configure script.
[05:44] <vaio> It's going to run a bunch of tests to hopefully make your compile
[05:44] <vaio> work without much twiddling.
[05:44] <vaio> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:44] <vaio> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:44] <vaio> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:44] <vaio> This is Eggdrop's GNU configure script.
[05:44] <vaio> It's going to run a bunch of tests to hopefully make your compile
[05:44] <vaio> work without much twiddling.
[05:44] <vaio> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> don't flood
[05:44] <vaio> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:44] <vaio> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:44] <vaio> theres my problem
[05:44] <linux3r> anone with a TV conected into PC?
[05:44] <shadowbox> thats kind of a sucky thing to have for defalt
[05:44] <vaio> sorrie
[05:44] <vaio> dont mean too
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> !paste | vaio
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and go install build-essential
[05:44] <ubotu> vaio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <vaio> so how do i paste it
[05:45] <linux3r> anone with a TV conected into PC?
[05:45] <vaio> but i aready did
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !eggdrop | vaio
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eggdrop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <hydrogen> why don't you just install the "eggdrop" package?
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !info eggdrop | vaio
[05:45] <ubotu> vaio: eggdrop (source: eggdrop): Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 464 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> there we go
[05:45] <vaio> so wat do i need to do?
[05:45] <vaio> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:46] <vaio> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:46] <vaio> this seem to be the problem
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> just told you
[05:46] <vaio> i can seem to configure
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> BUT
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> just sudo apt-get install eggdrop and skip all the problems there.
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no sense in compiling something that's in the repositories
[05:47] <vaio> okie i try
[05:47] <shadowbox> linux3r: no but I seen one today that had tv runing on their monitor
[05:47] <shadowbox> linux3r: it looked pretty good
[05:48] <linux3r> shadowbox: when i run a movie with kaffeine it doesnt appear centered
[05:48] <linux3r> when i run with mplayer it appears fine
[05:49] <shadowbox> did you uninstall and then reinstall kaffeine?
[05:49] <shadowbox> if not I would try it first
[05:50] <vaio> i seem like i have a new problem
[05:50] <vaio> it*
[05:50] <vaio> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource ly unavailable)
[05:50] <vaio> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:50] <vaio> wat does that mean
[05:50] <linux3r> shadowbox: i even rebuild it
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> do you have adept open?
[05:51] <vaio> adept?
[05:51]  * Daisuke_Ido weeps
[05:51] <shadowbox> hmm, the picture goes past the frame of kaffeine?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> !aptfix | vaio
[05:51] <ubotu> vaio: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:52] <linux3r> shadowbox: in fullscreen the image is reduced in the 2/3 left of the TV screen and 1/3 of TV scrren stays in black
[05:52] <shadowbox> gottcha
[06:22] <lakakaka> hi
[06:22] <lakakaka> i need help with my internet conection
[06:22] <lakakaka> please help!!!
[06:23] <redmoon> Hello
[06:27] <redmoon> ....?
[06:34] <Jimmy1> hey what do i type in terminal to get update on nvidia card ?
[06:37] <Jimmy1> any1
[06:37] <bragoo08> What install package do i use to play mp3's on Amorok?
[06:37] <Jucato> !nvidia | Jimmy1
[06:37] <ubotu> Jimmy1: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:37] <Jucato> bragoo08: libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:38] <bragoo08> jucato: I tried that, it won't install. message says it's old
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> hardy?
[06:40] <Jucato> that would be weird...
[06:40] <Jimmy1> how do update packet manger
[06:40] <Jimmy1> there is a driver that i know is in there when it get updated but i dont know how to do it
[06:40] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get update" will try to check if there are updates available
[06:40] <Jimmy1> sweet
[06:41] <bragoo08> jucato: done that, update dosn't work either!
[06:42] <Jucato> bragoo08: fresh install?
[06:43] <bragoo08> jucato: not again. I just did that last night!
[06:43] <Jucato> bragoo08: no. I'm asking you if it's a fresh install
[06:44] <bragoo08> jucato: yep yep
[06:44] <Jucato> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <Jimmy1> Hmm its not there ! i did it yesterday but today i reinstalled kububtu and when i do update it doesnt find it ! the file that i need is "Nvidia glx new" or something like that
[06:44] <Jucato> bragoo08: hm.. are you able to install any other package Add/Remove or Adept?
[06:45] <bragoo08> jimmy1: have you enabled "universe" repos.
[06:45] <Jimmy1> how do you do that ?
[06:45] <Jucato> no. nvidia drivers are in restricted, not universe
[06:45] <bragoo08> jimmy1: sorry, i meant "restricted drivers".
[06:45] <Jimmy1> yeh
[06:46] <Jimmy1> but when i check the box to use the nvidia card it wants me to install the nvidia glx new driver
[06:46] <Jimmy1> i had it yesterday but yesterday posed a whole lot of other problems
[06:47] <Jimmy1> The software source for the package
[06:47] <Jimmy1> nvidia-glx-new
[06:47] <Jimmy1> is not enabled.
[06:48] <bragoo08> jimmy1: are you doing it in Admistrator Mode?
[06:48] <Jimmy1> yes
[06:49] <bragoo08> jimmy1: my nvidia-glx-new installed automatically when i clicked "enable"!
[06:50] <Jimmy1> yeh when i click enable it says what i pasted above
[06:51] <Jimmy1> yesterday someone told me to type in something in terminal and it updated it and everythying was there including nvidia settings or something
[06:53] <bragoo08> jimmy1: in terminal, type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" that should do it!
[06:54] <Jimmy1> Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:54] <Jimmy1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:54] <Jimmy1> is only available from another source
[06:54] <Jimmy1> E: Package nvidia-glx-new has no installation candidate
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> can you pastebin your sources.list?
[06:55] <bragoo08> jimmy1: in adept manager, update repositories, enable "restricted"
[06:56] <Jimmy1> that sound farmiliar
[06:58] <Jimmy1> ok i cant find restricted
[06:58] <Jimmy1> where is it again sorry !
[06:58] <Jucato> !repositories
[06:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[07:01] <Jimmy1> Hmm im having trouble
[07:02] <jussi01> Jimmy1: where are you looking?
[07:03] <Jimmy1> apt manager
[07:03] <jussi01> Jimmy1: close everything, got to, kmenu - system - adept - adept menu( top left corner) - manage repositories
[07:05] <Ketrel> I just reinstalled kubuntu, and I just installed Compiz Fusion, in CCSM, the icons are all missing, anyone know what's up there?
[07:05] <Jimmy1> yeh i have clicked that but i cant find ( update repositories, enable "restricted")
[07:06] <bragoo08> jimmy1: click "manage repositories"
[07:06] <Jimmy1> done that
[07:07] <Jimmy1> i cant find that restricted thing you where saying
[07:07] <Jimmy1> its not there
[07:07] <bragoo08> jimmy1: now click "proprietory drivers for devices (restricted)"
[07:08] <Jimmy1> ok
[07:08] <bragoo08> now close
[07:08] <Jimmy1> done
[07:09] <Jimmy1> its trying to load stuff now
[07:09] <jussi01> :)
[07:09] <bragoo08> jimmy1: your list should update and the nvidia drivers should be now listed
[07:09] <Jimmy1> YaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY
[07:09] <Jimmy1> its got it now :D
[07:09] <Jimmy1> thanks guys
[07:09] <bragoo08> jimmy1: Hooray up she rises!
[07:10] <bragoo08> no prob
[07:13] <Nyad> Hi. I have kde3.5.8 if I want to upgrade to 3.5.9 is it safe to just type  sudo apt-get install kde
[07:14] <Nyad> like will the upgrade keep all my other stuff working?
[07:14] <bragoo08> nyad: as far as i know, yes
[07:14] <Jucato> Nyad: 1. You'll have to add the special repo for KDE 3.5.9. 2. It will only upgrade KDE packages and packages that it might depend on
[07:14] <Jucato> see http://kubuntu.org for instructions
[07:15] <Nyad> tnx
[07:15] <Nyad> ok. Now a new kernel has been released. I want to upgrade to it but how?
[07:15] <Nyad> without waiting for hardy
[07:16] <jussi01> !kernel
[07:16] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[07:16] <Jucato> release from kernel.org? you'll have to compile it yourself if you don't want to upgrade to Hardy (and Hardy might not even have the latest latest)
[07:17] <jussi01> Nyad: hardy is 1 week away, you sure you cant wait?
[07:18] <Nyad> well I'd like to know for the future :)  thanks Jucato
[07:19] <jimmy1> hey im back
[07:19] <jimmy1> i rebooted my computer and the screens resolution is very large
[07:19] <jussi01> jimmy1: how did it go?
[07:19] <jussi01> hrm
[07:19] <jimmy1> im in system settings
[07:19] <jimmy1> monitor
[07:19] <jussi01> !fixres
[07:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:20] <jimmy1> but there is no adjustment on the size beyond what it has
[07:41] <Ketrel> I have a problem with the Guidance Power Manager. It works fine as a try icon, but when I try to load it so I could make a change, it locks up.
[07:41] <Ketrel> (This is on a Vaio laptop)
[07:48] <maria_> nick/rosita
[08:13] <user__> #semarang
[08:18] <test_> how to fix adept?
[08:18] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[08:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:18] <test_> thank you
[08:19] <jussi01> :)
[08:31] <b4l74z4r> is it possible to make the media script in konversation work with rhythmbox?
[08:31] <jussi01> b4l74z4r: I dont think so. :/
[08:32] <b4l74z4r> ok
[08:32] <Ketrel> I installed compiz fusion and it's autostarting. How can I make it not do that?
[08:32] <jussi01> b4l74z4r: it is, but you would need to recompile it iirc
[08:33] <jussi01> Ketrel: turn it off before shutting down?
[08:33] <Jucato> jussi01: recompile what?
[08:33] <Ketrel> I didn't, but I don't recall it doing this on my first install. Is there any way to say don't autostart, because I do want to start it manually.
[08:34] <jussio1> Jucato: konversation, isnt that /media thing compiled in?
[08:34] <Jucato> of course not :)
[08:34] <Jucato> it's just a bash script in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/
[08:35] <jussio1> Jucato: ok then. you learn something new everyday :)
[08:35] <jussio1> b4l74z4r: ^^
[08:36] <Jucato> b4l74z4r: if you can figure out how to make rhythmbox spit out information from a command (like using dbus), and cut that text up into pieces or something, you're very much able to customize that script for your purposes
[08:36] <Ketrel> any idea how to stop it?
[08:37] <b4l74z4r> ok
[08:37] <jim> hey guys
[08:37] <jim> just wondering if any1 can help me change me screens resolution
[08:38] <jussio1> Ketrel: system settings - advanced - session manager
[08:38] <jussio1> !lamp
[08:38] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:38] <jim> i dont have a sessions manager
[08:39] <jussio1> jim: that was for Ketrel, not for you ;)
[08:39] <jim> lol
[08:40] <Ketrel> jussi01: thanks, I that's what's different.
[08:40] <jim> i am in monitor and display settings and the max setting i can go to is 640 x 480
[08:40] <Ketrel> I forgot to set it to use fresh sessions when I restarted :)
[08:40] <jussio1> :)
[08:40] <jussio1> jim: you were here earlier, correct?
[08:40] <jim> yeh the computer crashed
[08:41] <jim> with the setting someone gave me
[08:41] <jussio1> jim: did you read the link I posted then?
[08:41] <jim> the computer crashed so i didnt see
[08:41] <jussio1> !fixres | jim
[08:41] <ubotu> jim: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:42] <jim> ahh yeh i did that and it crashed
[08:44] <bragoo08> jim: have you selected the correct monitor in the monitor settings?
[08:45] <bragoo08> jim: if you only have "plug and play" selected, then that is quite possibly the problem!
[08:45] <Ketrel> Final question for the night, I have some wep secured networks, and I can't get knetworkmanager to autoconnect to them. (the info is stored), but it only connects to non-wep secured ones. There any way to get it to auto-connect to the wep ones?
[08:48] <jim> ahhhggrr this is hard
[08:48] <jim> how do i know what is the correct monitor settings ?
[08:49] <jim> i dont think i selected a plug and play i have only selected the nvidia thingy
[08:49] <bragoo08> jim: click "configure" next monitor.
[08:50] <bragoo08> jim: you will see a list box, under the list box you will see a button "select"
[08:50] <bragoo08> jim: click this button, and your monitor will show in the list if it has been auto detected.
[08:51] <bragoo08> jim: if not select it manually from the list that says "manufactures"
[08:52] <jim> computer administrator > monitor and display !
[08:52] <jim> is that where your talking about
[08:52] <bragoo08> jim: yes thats the 1
[08:53] <bragoo08> jim: sorry, i thought you were there already!
[08:53] <jim> do i click seccond screen ?
[08:54] <bragoo08> jim: NO NO NO NO!
[08:54] <pato> hi, is it possible to set up synaptic like default package manager?
[08:54] <bragoo08> jim: just the 1 you are using, (if you only have one monitor)
[08:55] <jim> there is nothing there on monitor
[08:55] <jim> i dont think i have the monitor thing
[08:55] <bragoo08> jim: are you in admin mode
[08:55] <jim> yes
[08:55] <bragoo08> jim: BRB
[08:57] <jim> there is something there that shows screen size but it wont move about the lowest point
[08:57] <jim> above
[08:58] <Israelll> hi
[08:58] <Israelll> uall
[08:58] <Israelll> beautiful channel
[08:59] <jim> hi
[08:59] <jim> it is beautiful
[08:59] <Tm_T> jim: he's gone already
[08:59] <jim> lol
[09:01] <jim> Gee linux is hard
[09:01] <jim> so can any1 els take off from where bagoon left ?
[09:02] <jim> bragoo
[09:02] <bragoo08> jim: i'm back
[09:02] <jim> wb
[09:03] <bragoo08> had to get rid of tele-marketers!
[09:03] <jim> yeh they where calling me for a cheap holiday too
[09:03] <bragoo08> on the phone
[09:03] <jim> what country ?
[09:03] <bragoo08> australia
[09:03] <jerknextdoor> get on the no call list...come on.
[09:03] <jerknextdoor> haha
[09:03] <jim> what state
[09:03] <bragoo08> vic
[09:03] <jim> YaaaaaaaaaaY
[09:04] <jim> i was from there for 27 years
[09:04] <jim> then i had to go to act :(
[09:04] <bragoo08> you got to be kidding me
[09:04] <jim> blackburn south
[09:04] <jim> next to boxhill
[09:04] <bragoo08> ferntree gully
[09:04] <jim> hahahah
[09:04] <jim> mad
[09:04] <jim> i miss victoria
[09:04] <bragoo08> why?
[09:04] <jim> im coming back next year i think
[09:05] <jim> canberra is SOOOO boooooooooooring but my gf is from here so i gotta stay till she finishes off her law degree
[09:05] <bragoo08> bumma
[09:05] <jim> love going to stkilda chapel street lygon and crown
[09:05] <Tm_T> !ot
[09:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:05] <jim> sorry tmt
[09:06] <bragoo08> got carried away!
[09:06] <jim> lol
[09:06] <jim> where were we
[09:06] <bragoo08> that damn monitor!
[09:06] <jim> screen size
[09:06] <jim> i cant change resolution in the settings but its set to the lowest
[09:07] <jim> 640 x 480
[09:07] <bragoo08> jim: are you able to click the "configure" button for monitor?
[09:07] <bragoo08> jim: it's at the tab "hardware"
[09:08] <jim> yes
[09:08] <jim> monitor 1 plug and play
[09:08] <jim> primary 1
[09:09] <bragoo08> jim: in the list box select "manufacturers"
[09:09] <jim> no can do
[09:09] <bragoo08> jim: then find the manufacturer of your monitor and model/type
[09:09] <jim> there is only primary 1 and secondary 1
[09:10] <bragoo08> jim: now that is bloody odd!
[09:10] <DarkriftX> whenever i try apt-get it asks for my cdrom, how do i make it just use the internet instead? i checked my sources.list and there were no file:// entries and i didnt see cdrom in there
[09:11] <jim> yeh yesterday i didnt have "monitor" and i reinstalled linux and then it decided to aprear
[09:11] <DarkriftX> nvm, found it
[09:11] <jerknextdoor> Dark:  check your repositories.  by default it might have cdrom selected
[09:11] <DarkriftX> it was first line and i didnt see it
[09:12] <bragoo08> jim: just a tic i'm switching to the Linux machine. I'm on the windows machine at the moment!
[09:12] <jerknextdoor> Dark:  spent probably 20 minutes the first time that happened to me with fedora.
[09:13] <jim> ok
[09:14] <Greenery> how do i archive a folder into zip format?
[09:17]  * jim shrugs
[09:18]  * bragoo08 is back again
[09:19] <jim> wb
[09:19] <jim> and go Carlton
[09:21] <bragoo08> jim: in monitor >> configure, there should be 3 choices in the list box, Generic, Manufacturers and Plug 'n' Play
[09:22] <bragoo08> go tigers
[09:22] <jim> there is only 2 to select from
[09:23] <jim> plug and play and unknown
[09:23] <jerknextdoor> Greenery:  zip -r <folder name> <folder name>
[09:23] <bragoo08> jim: can you expand "unknown"?
[09:23] <jim> no
[09:23] <jim> its just a title
[09:24] <jim> same as plug and play
[09:24] <jerknextdoor> greenery:  ubuntu forums has plenty of questions about it.  but also just "man zip" in terminal will help also.
[09:24] <bragoo08> jim: have you clicked "detect monitor" ?
[09:25] <Greenery> jerknextdoor: thanks, i got it now
[09:25] <jerknextdoor> np
[09:25] <jim> there is no option for this
[09:26] <jim> and how did you guys get 8th on the ladder
[09:26] <jim> u cheated
[09:26] <bragoo08> buggered if i know! lol
[09:26] <jim> lol
[09:27] <jerknextdoor> jim:  i got into the room after you asked your initial question.  i think you're having a similar probem that i had to deal with a while back.  if you aren't getting anywhere let me know.
[09:27] <bragoo08> jim: that sounds like a good offer!
[09:27] <jim> if you can help please do
[09:27] <bragoo08> jim: from jerknextdoor
[09:28] <jim> cheers
[09:28] <jerknextdoor> well, what was the initial problem.  i missed that when i joined into tonight.
[09:28] <jerknextdoor> (i cant promise anything it just sounded simliar to something i had a while back)
[09:29] <jim> firstly i enabled my nvida card and it needed to be rebooted ! once it has been rebooted the screen is oversized ! now most of the options i have been given to do dont apear on my computer for some reason
[09:30] <jerknextdoor> alright so basically you're screen isn't the right size by default and you aren't give the option to go to the right resolution in the prefs?
[09:30] <jim> if i disable the nvidia 3d card then i wont be able to use compiz ! thats the main reason y i am wanting to use the nvidia card
[09:30] <jim> yes
[09:30] <jerknextdoor> alright....well, have you tried editing your xorg.conf?
[09:30] <jim> there is a bar which SHOULD move over to the right and change my resolution but it wont move
[09:30] <jim> no
[09:30] <jim> what do i type to do this
[09:30] <jerknextdoor> alright give me one sec to look it up...
[09:31] <jim> :)
[09:31] <jerknextdoor> alright it might be a minute, i have to go grab something.  haha.
[09:31] <jim> lol np
[09:32] <jim> (n=jim@90.210.183.180). <-- is that me ?
[09:35] <jerknextdoor> jim:  in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:35] <jerknextdoor> without quotes
[09:36] <jim> sudo: gedit: command not found
[09:36] <bragoo08> thats what i get aswell
[09:36] <jerknextdoor> wtf.  alright give me a  minute i have to restart kubuntu in regular kde.
[09:37] <jim> lol
[09:37] <jerknextdoor> what version are you running (not that it should change it...but maybe)
[09:37] <jim> 7.10
[09:38] <jerknextdoor> alright...i've had a beer so i might have typed that wrong.  let me try it myself again.  haha
[09:38] <jim> lol
[09:38] <jim> VB ?
[09:38] <jerknextdoor> vb?  vbox?
[09:38] <jim> oh its beer
[09:38] <bragoo08> jim: "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:38] <jerknextdoor> oh.....
[09:38] <jim> Victoria bitter
[09:38] <jim> lol
[09:39] <jerknextdoor> ah.
[09:39] <jim> yeh that worked
[09:39] <jim> now what do i do
[09:40] <jerknextdoor> weird.  the gedit worked fine for me.  oh well you need to go down to
[09:40] <jerknextdoor> Section "screen"
[09:41] <jerknextdoor> and then in each one of the    SubSection "Display"
[09:41] <jerknextdoor> you need to type where it says "Modes"  and then it has resolutions.  you need to add your resolution to each of those
[09:43] <jerknextdoor> so if you're res is "1280x800"  the modes line should read "Modes [tab]  "1280x800" "1024x768" 800x600" "640x480"
[09:43] <jerknextdoor> in each one of the SubSection "Display" lines
[09:44] <jerknextdoor> jim:  if you're not following me let me know.  i can be more specific.
[09:44] <ganastasiou_> hi all
[09:44] <ganastasiou_> i have a problem with keyboard layout
[09:45] <ganastasiou_> how i can put another language?
[09:45] <jerknextdoor> ganastasiou_:  what's the problem?
[09:45] <ganastasiou_> and how to put a specific shotcut to change?
[09:46] <ganastasiou_> i have from default alt+ctrl+k
[09:46] <ganastasiou_> but i cannot change back
[09:47] <jerknextdoor> oh you should be able to change that in your keyboard pref pane.
[09:48] <ganastasiou_> i know that but in kde i have to make some changes to put a specific shotcut to change between 2 layout
[09:48] <ganastasiou_> s
[09:48] <ganastasiou_> anyone can help me?
[09:48] <jerknextdoor> brb.  i'm booting into normal kubuntu so this is easier.
[09:49] <ganastasiou_> ok
[09:52] <Jimmmy1> sorry i gotta go
[09:52] <Jimmmy1> tell jerkguy that ill be back another time
[09:52] <bragoo08> see ya'
[09:52] <Jimmmy1> cya
[09:52] <Jimmmy1> thanks for help so far
[09:57] <jerknextdoor> all:  sorry my computer just decided to explode crap at me (apparently when i went to restart i hadnt restarted since my last update....um yeah)
[09:59] <jerknextdoor> Jim:  you get anywhere with what i suggested?
[09:59] <jerknextdoor> ganastasious_:  i'm still working on you.
[10:00] <jerknextdoor> os x just did something i've never seen so i'm a bit concerned.  haha
[10:00] <ganastasiou_> ok im w8ing bro
[10:02] <eagles0513875> jerknextdoor: what did it do
[10:05] <jerknextdoor_> whoever just asked what happened with me and os x ask me again in #kubuntu-offtopic (i just rebooted so my irc shut down and i didnt see you name)
[10:06] <thyko> say, where can i get an iso of 8.04 with KDE4? (the remix)
[10:07] <jerknextdoor_> ganastasiou_:    what language do you want to change it to?
[10:08] <ds187> thyko: you mean this? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/beta/
[10:09] <jerknextdoor_> ganastasiou_:    https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html  that link should help
[10:09] <thyko> ds187: yah, thanks
[10:11] <eagles0513875> !repository
[10:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[10:16] <jerknextdoor> ganastasiou_:    any help at all?
[10:16] <jerknextdoor> jim:  any luck?
[10:18] <linuxconfig> guys...my network card stoped working in hardy... module is installed it is recognized by system but it just can not ping outide the box... any ideas?
[10:19] <ganastasiou_> thnx jerk for your help
[10:19] <jerknextdoor> ganastasiou_:    did it work?
[10:19] <ganastasiou_> trying to configure it now
[10:20] <jerknextdoor> good.  i've never had to redo that so if it doesnt work let me know if i'm still around.  it will be usefull in the future i'm sure.
[10:20] <ganastasiou_> ok
[10:20] <ganastasiou_> brb
[10:20] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: bene having that issue intermittently as well usually i reset my modem and switch and it works then
[10:21] <ds187> linuxconfig: is there an ip-adress assigned? and the proper routes set? I had a similar problem after installing hardy and had to assign an adress and the proper routes manually
[10:21] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: no I'm sure that my modem is fine..I have to add my old card to so can can even make this talk
[10:21] <linuxconfig> ds187: everything is fine.,..
[10:22] <linuxconfig> I have had the same problme with other linuxdistros..only feisty worked not problem...
[10:22] <linuxconfig> its 1Gb nvidia card...
[10:23] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: thats ur graphics we r talking bout ur network card
[10:23] <ds187> hehe
[10:23] <eagles0513875> but nice card none the less
[10:23] <jerknextdoor> nvida modem?
[10:24] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[10:24] <linuxconfig> and this is the problem...its not fully supported with hardy...as I said feisty worked..
[10:25] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: so nforce4 chipset
[10:26] <linuxconfig> the module for that card is loaded...: forcedeth
[10:26] <eagles0513875> have u filed a bug cuz i have an nforce for chipset i think with that same card not sure the revision and it works on gutsy
[10:26] <jerknextdoor> linuxconfig:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136836    does that help?
[10:26] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: do u have the same issue on gutsy
[10:26] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: I have a hardy...
[10:27] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: clean install or upgrade from the previous version
[10:27] <linuxconfig> this is a beta version...now I can not even open browser..
[10:27] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: clena install..
[10:27] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: and its updated ..
[10:27] <eagles0513875> did u restart ur computer to boot with the latest kernel
[10:28] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: gve my one second..I will lookup that link...
[10:28] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: It di not work right from the beginning..
[10:28] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: however, festy works always..:-)
[10:28] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: one sec..
[10:28] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: u duel booting with vista by any chance
[10:29] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: I do XP but that is not a issue..why?
[10:29] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: in vista both cards work...
[10:29] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: if it was vista u would have to install kubuntu first then  vista
[10:30] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: NO VISTA PELASE :-))
[10:30] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: u having an internet issue and a video issue
[10:30] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: on this old thing no windows period here
[10:30] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: one sec...need to restart X
[10:30] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: ok
[10:33] <ganastasiou> back i made it work
[10:33] <ganastasiou> jerk
[10:34] <ganastasiou> jerknextdoor r u here?
[10:34] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: dude ?
[10:34] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: you are the best...it works.. :-)
[10:34] <jerknextdoor> yes i am.
[10:34] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: happy as never before :-)
[10:35] <jerknextdoor> ganastasious:  so everything is good now?
[10:35] <ganastasiou> i made with other way
[10:35] <ganastasiou> not yours
[10:35] <ganastasiou> u wanna know?
[10:36] <ActionParsni1> hey all
[10:37] <jerknextdoor> yeah id be happy to know for future reference.
[10:37] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: what u do
[10:38] <pato> hi, is it possible to set up synaptic like default package manager?  Thank u :)
[10:38] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: dude are you tehre?
[10:39] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: im here lol
[10:39] <ActionParsni1> pato: just use it instead of the others
[10:39] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: it works...you have saved my day.. :-))
[10:39] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: what did u do
[10:39] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: thanks...
[10:39] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136836
[10:39] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: also make sure u run updates daily things r constantly being fixed
[10:39] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: ahhhh ok no prob dude
[10:40] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: that is what I'm doing also dist-upgrade
[10:41] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: kool good luck if u encounter any bugs report them to launchpad.net
[10:41] <darx> hi when I try to install 'kjscmd' under kubuntu hardy, quite a few packages are being marked for removal. can someone confirm this please
[10:41] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: if I want to submit a bug how do I know to which package it it realted to? it always asks me that at the beginning..?
[10:42] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: that is exactly wath to do...
[10:42] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: is it a particular program
[10:43] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: I do not have a bug to report yet...I'm just asking for the future reference..
[10:44] <eagles0513875> for instance where it says package search for instance firefox 2.1.4 for ex and it will display a list and choose the particular pkg
[10:44] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: I alwasy got stuck there..beacause I did no know to which package the problem is related to..
[10:45] <eagles0513875> linuxconfig: if u dont know what the pkg is thats ok but make sure to give enough description as to whats causing ur issue so that someone can attempts to recreate the issue
[10:46] <linuxconfig> eagles0513875: no problem I give it another try...thanks again..
[10:46] <a_c_m> ok here is the situation, i'm getting anew computer for my new flat, i want to install kubuntu64 ( i have the disk ), but i also want a few choice apps (wireshark and airodump-ng), but that computer will be without net connection for a few weeks... is there any way i can download the .debs (and supporting debs) ? (using kubuntu32 atm)
[10:47] <jerknextdoor> a_c_m:  you should just be able to download them from the repositories or the developers and then put them on a disk.
[10:48] <ActionParsni1> a_c_m: indeed but if your system does not have the dependancys the apps wont work. I am unsure how to backup the deps too but im sure someone caninput here :)
[10:48] <ActionParsni1> can input*
[10:48] <a_c_m> jerknextdoor: yeah, i was hoping i guess for a way to see what the dependices are and grab them too
[10:49] <jerknextdoor> oh...yeah.  i cant help you there.  i'm sure it's faily simple but ive never dealt with tit so i'm not sure.
[10:49] <pato> ActionParsni1: I'm using it. But how can i set up to control update with synaptic? If updates of package is availlable, adept will warn u. I change it for synaptic. I hope, u understand me :D
[10:51] <ActionParsni1> pato: i dontknow about that, sorry. I always use apt-get
[10:51] <ActionParsni1> pato: so much easier
[10:52] <ActionParsni1> pato: I got a script called updatenow which runs: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get clean;
[11:00] <pato> ActionParsni1: OK, thank u for your interest, but i know about sudo apt-get update, upgrade etc. I talk about icon in system tray. If updates are availlable, adept will start and it will warn u by icon in system tray. If I can not change it, how can i remove this icon from system tray? sorry for my english :D
[11:01] <ActionParsni1> pato: just disable it but you will have to manualy install and check for updates
[11:07] <pato> ActionParsni1: How can i disable it? Is it secure for me? I know, lama question :D
[11:09] <ActionParsni1> pato: right click it and see what you find, not sure tbh
[11:10] <funcrush> I usually edit text files on kate and save. But when I save them, the input method is selected XIM by default, so I can't type anything before select scim. How can I fix this problem?
[11:11] <pato> ok, thank u so much, i will look for that. Have a nice day :)
[11:11] <darx> I'm having dependency troubles trying to instal 'kjscmd' can someone confirm this please? I'm on kubuntu hardy
[11:11] <darx> 3.5.9
[11:30] <bolder> hi catweazle ... super
[11:31] <bolder> hallo erstmal an alle
[11:31] <bolder> bbl
[11:41] <a_c_m> Wooo new computer arrived...
[11:41] <a_c_m> full of vista and crapware
[11:41] <a_c_m> :S
[11:42] <a_c_m> i've been using linux to long... i think im coming out in a rash! crapware lots!
[11:42] <ktc> MSN
[11:42] <ktc> RLANTO@netclub.mg
[11:43] <Jucato> ktc: hm?
[11:43] <ktc> yes
[11:43] <Jucato> what are you trying to do?
[11:43] <ktc> i try to connect to a certain person to chat with him
[11:44] <Jucato> not in here
[11:44] <ktc> no he is on an other
[11:44] <ktc> i m sorry but my english is not very good
[11:44] <Jucato> !be
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <Jucato> hm.. ok..
[11:54] <eagles0513875> !de
[11:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:54] <eagles0513875> Jucato: is that what u were looking for
[11:54] <Jucato> eagles0513875: belgian is not deutsche :)
[11:55] <llutz> very true
[11:55] <eagles0513875> lol my bad thought that might have been a typo
[12:06] <icewaterman> hm, there is a bug in kgpg, sorting with size of the keylength sorts 768 before 4096
[12:06] <icewaterman> sorting by
[12:20] <Hub441> hi!
[12:21] <Hub441> started packaging for kubuntu/debian some days a go and due to this good howto (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PackagingGuide/Complete) everything works fine so far, but i'm a bit confused about version names
[12:22] <Hub441> so the original version of $myprog is 1.0.0 so what should i put into the changelog? 1.0.0 1.0.0-0 1.0.0-1 1.0.0-0ubuntu0 etc.
[12:23] <Jucato> Hub441: that depends on whether it's been touched in Debian first or touched in Ubuntu first... try asking for guidance in #ubuntu-motu
[12:23] <Hub441> afaik there is no package for $myprog atm
[12:24] <Hub441> join #ubuntu-motu
[12:24] <Hub441> whops :)
[12:39] <eagles0513875> !firewall
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:51] <ganastasiou> hi anyone knows how to add emotics from chat conversation to kopete?
[12:53] <ganastasiou> none has kopete?
[12:54] <bbm4n__> i have
[12:55] <bbm4n__> i think the add emoticon function does not work well in kopete
[12:55] <ganastasiou> which msn client should i use?
[12:55] <bbm4n__> i have tried pidgin
[12:56] <bbm4n__> but its not as feature rich as kopete
[12:56] <[ifr0g]> how do i make us of a serial port ?
[12:56] <[ifr0g]> use*
[12:56] <ganastasiou> have u tried emesene?
[12:56] <bbm4n__> nop
[12:58] <ganastasiou> u dont use emoticons?
[12:59] <bbm4n__> i use the default ones
[12:59] <ganastasiou> i see
[12:59] <ganastasiou> noone else has emoticons with kopete?
[12:59] <bbm4n__> and there is a way to add emoticon packs or something
[12:59] <Hub441> ganastasiou: did you search kde-look.org?
[12:59] <bbm4n__> this is like emoticon collections
[13:00] <ganastasiou> i want to add emoticons that were sent to me
[13:00] <ganastasiou> now only the defaults
[13:01] <ganastasiou> not*
[13:02] <ganastasiou> i heard about a patch
[13:02] <ganastasiou> but i dont know how to patch it
[13:04] <bbm4n_> well if you open kopete with sudo or something like this you'll be able to save them
[13:04] <bbm4n_> but i am not sure how you can use them
[13:04] <ganastasiou> bbman ellhnas?
[13:04] <bbm4n_> nai
[13:04] <ganastasiou> bbm4n
[13:04] <bbm4n_> hahha
[13:05] <ganastasiou> to eida apo ton provider sou
[13:05] <bbm4n_> swstos
[13:05] <Jucato> English only in here please
[13:06] <bbm4n_> sorry
[13:06] <ganastasiou> yeah sorry my fault
[13:08] <ganastasiou> bbm4n do u listen music from e-radio?
[13:10] <bbm4n_> i used to
[13:11] <ganastasiou> with konqueror?
[13:11] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou with firefox
[13:11] <ganastasiou> ok isee
[13:11] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou but in linux most e-radio stations are using media-player streaming
[13:12] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou and i haven't figured out if they work through linux
[13:12] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou i mean if there is a firefox plugin or something for it
[13:13] <ganastasiou> im new in kubuntu
[13:13] <ganastasiou> in ubuntu there was a plugin
[13:13] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou maybe you mean the plugin for restricted codecs or something?
[13:14] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou the one you use for mp3 dvd, blablabla
[13:14] <ganastasiou> no mozilla plugin
[13:14] <bbm4n_> oh, i see
[13:15] <bbm4n_> if it works in ubuntu it should work in kubuntu also
[13:15] <ganastasiou> i think so now im trying it
[13:15] <bbm4n_> what was the plugins name?
[13:16] <ganastasiou> w8
[13:16] <bbm4n_> okk
[13:18] <Jimmmy1> Hey all
[13:18] <Jimmmy1> Does any1 know how to edit that confx thingy and change the screens resolution  ?
[13:18] <Jucato> !xconfig
[13:18] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[13:19] <Jimmmy1> fixres
[13:19] <Jimmmy1> that one sounds good
[13:19] <Jimmmy1> !fixres
[13:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:20] <Jimmmy1> ahh :S i tried that one and my computer crashed
[13:20] <bbm4n_> something a little bit irrelevant, is there any program to configure your mouse yet?
[13:20] <bbm4n_> i mean like 5 button mouse
[13:21] <ganastasiou> sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[13:21] <ganastasiou> give this bbm4n and u r ready
[13:21] <bbm4n_> ganastasiou ok thanx :)
[13:23] <Jimmmy1> hmm no luck yet
[13:23] <Jimmmy1> any1 know what i should do to edit the resolution in the confx
[13:24] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:25] <Jimmmy1> ok im in the edit bit now
[13:25] <Jimmmy1> what do i change, chase my image on the screen is oversized
[13:26] <Jimmmy1> cause it doesnt work in the monitor setting thing
[13:26] <Jucato> btw, did you try using the other command earlier? the one that will give you choices of resolutions?
[13:26] <Jucato> (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh)
[13:27] <Jimmmy1> i tried that once and my computer crashed so im not too game in trying it again
[13:28] <Jucato> won't be any different than you manually editing the file. of course, you should always create backups of the file first
[13:28] <Jimmmy1> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[13:39] <ganastasiou> anyone knows how to show to desktop icons for my computer trash and default icons?
[13:41] <IppatsuMan> ganastasiou: right click on desktop -> link to location (URL) -> Choose a file name (e.g.: "trashcan") and use as url: trash:/ -> click "Ok"
[13:41] <Jimmmy1> This resolution this is driving me nuttzz
[13:41] <Jimmmy1> isnt there a easy way of fixing it
[13:56] <jonathan__> hello!
[13:57] <jonathan__> i currently try to install code::block for c++-programming.
[13:58] <jonathan__> but after klicking the .deb- File the Installer says that the "dependencys are not satisfiable"...
[13:58] <jussio1> jonathan__: what exactly are you trying to install? which package?
[13:59] <jonathan__> there are 4 debs. the first one says that the second is missing, the second that it needs the third and the third needs an other package (libwxgtk) thats already installed. The fourth deb-File is only a plugin that cant be installed without the main-programm installed (first deb)
[14:00] <jonathan__> i downloaded the debs manually
[14:00] <Jimmy1> Heeeeeeeeeey
[14:00] <Jimmy1> my video card FINALLY works :D
[14:00] <Jimmy1> All i wanna do now is put compiz on for that spinning box thingy (yeh i know small things amuses small minds)
[14:01] <Jucato> !compiz-fusion
[14:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:03] <Alp`> when will there be a stable version of kde 4?
[14:03] <IppatsuMan> jonathan__: install debs using dpkg -i packagename.deb (don't worry about errors), then run sudo apt-get -f install or sudo aptitude -f install , check that the output makes sense and confirm to install missing dependencies
[14:04] <Jimmy1> is 7.10 fiest or gutsy  ?
[14:04] <jussi01> Alp`: Id imagine at 4.1 in about august. also, kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:04] <jussi01> Jimmy1: gutsy
[14:04] <Jimmy1> ahh thanks
[14:04] <Alp`> jussi01:  august... wow. thanks
[14:04] <jonathan__> thank you, it seems to work but i found a better ide by searching the web; eclipse
[14:05] <jonathan__> but thanks anyway!!
[14:05] <Jucato> Alp`: 4.0 is already a stable release. next release is 4.1 in late July or early August
[14:05] <Alp`> Jucato: it is stable? many people say it is very unstable
[14:05] <Alp`> i didnt try it for myself
[14:05] <Jucato> most people say "unstable" when they mean "incomplete"
[14:06] <Jimmy1> is this bad
[14:06] <Jimmy1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:06] <Jimmy1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:06] <jussio1> no, not bad
[14:06] <greyghost> Alp , I have been using 4.0 for a while ... works good for me.
[14:06] <Jucato> what command are you runnig Jimmy1?
[14:06] <Jimmy1> i did that sudo update thingy
[14:06] <jussio1> Jimmy1: do you have adept open?
[14:06] <Jimmy1> and that was the last thing that got posted
[14:06] <Alp`> Jucato: what's incomplete in 4.0?
[14:06] <Alp`> greyghost: good to hear
[14:06]  * jussio1 pokes Alp`over to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[14:06] <Jucato> Alp`: Plasma basically has things still missing
[14:06] <Jimmy1> i think i closed it when i was running the sudo thingy
[14:07] <Jucato> everything else is great
[14:07] <jussio1> !aptfix | Jimmy1
[14:07] <ubotu> Jimmy1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:07] <Jucato> oh and KDE PIM
[14:07] <Jimmy1> should i try it again
[14:08] <Jimmy1> oh wow it worked
[14:08] <Jimmy1> :) thanks
[14:12] <Jimmy1> hey
[14:12] <Jimmy1> i selected this
[14:12] <Jimmy1> sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[14:12] <Jimmy1> and it replied
[14:12] <Jimmy1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:12] <Jimmy1>   compiz-kde: Depends: compiz-plugins (= 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[14:13] <Jimmy1>               Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not going to be installed
[14:13] <Jimmy1> E: Broken packages
[14:13] <IppatsuMan> !paste | Jimmy1
[14:13] <ubotu> Jimmy1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:13] <Jimmy1> jim@Linux:~$ sudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[14:13] <Jimmy1> Reading package lists... Done
[14:13] <Jimmy1> Building dependency tree
[14:13] <Jimmy1> Reading state information... Done
[14:13] <Jimmy1> Package compiz-fusion-plugins-main is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:13] <Jimmy1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:13] <Jimmy1> is only available from another source
[14:13] <Jimmy1> E: Package compiz-fusion-plugins-main has no installation candidate
[14:13] <Jimmy1> what happend ?
[14:13] <Jimmy1> ahh woops
[14:14] <Jimmy1> whats the solution to this
[14:14] <Jucato> Jimmy1: next time you paste multiple lines like that, I'm afraid I will have to silence you for a while
[14:14] <Jimmy1> oh ok sorry
[14:14] <jussi01> !paste | Jimmy1
[14:14] <ubotu> Jimmy1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:14] <Jimmy1> patsuman already did it
[14:18] <Jimmy1> ok this is my problem
[14:19] <Jimmy1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63509/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63509/
[14:19] <Jimmy1> what do i do
[14:26] <ahmed> hi i have some sheets files in fat partition i have to edit them from time to time but when i do this i get message says document read only i want to have full access to them how is that
[14:28]  * Jimmy1 shrugs
[14:28] <Jimmy1> mabie ask someone from those help forums
[14:29] <Jucato> Jimmy1: didn't you go ask in #compiz-fusion ?
[14:29] <Jimmy1> yeh
[14:29] <Jimmy1> they still working on it
[14:29] <Jimmy1> nice ppl they are
[14:29] <Jucato> :)
[14:30] <Jimmy1> (:
[14:30] <Jimmy1> he left
[14:30] <Jimmy1> mabie he went to that help forum i told him about
[14:30]  * Jimmy1 is very helpfull
[14:34] <Jimmy1> can any1 help me with compix
[14:34] <Jimmy1> compiz
[14:35] <Jucato> any1 would be in #compiz-fusion Jimmy1
[14:36] <Jimmy1> whats break mean in the apt
[14:36] <Jimmy1> Break install in red
[14:37] <Jimmy1> compiz ppl are nice
[14:39] <Jucato> in Adept?
[14:40] <Jimmy1> yeh
[14:40] <Jucato> it can mean many different things. Use apt-get from Konsole to find out why
[14:40] <Jucato> (yeah it's annoying that way...)
[14:40] <Jimmy1> ok ill try
[14:44] <ahmed> hi i want to sdit some sheet files on fat partition i get document is read only message how to solve this
[14:47] <llutz> !vfat
[14:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:47] <llutz> ahmed: ^^
[14:47] <ahmed> yes the partitiion is vfat
[14:48] <ahmed> ican se the file but cannt edit them
[14:48] <llutz> ahmed: read what ubotu said
[14:49] <ahmed> i have some document in vfat  partition i try to edit them i get message the document is read only what i ahve to do
[14:52] <ds187> llutz: he doesn't want to read
[14:53] <llutz> bad luck
[14:57]  * Jimmy1 can read
[15:10] <tdn> How do I connect to a Windows Terminal Server from Kubuntu?
[15:13] <ahmed> hi again here is what in my fsatb iwant to have full access for all file inn my partitions  and auto mount them when startup if there is something wrong tell me
[15:13] <ahmed> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> # Entry for /dev/sda3 :
[15:13] <ahmed> UUID=b96cf92e-5758-4959-9bf9-4fe05564c0cd / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[15:13] <ahmed> # Entry for /dev/ !! UNKNOW DEVICE !! :
[15:13] <ahmed> UUID=9AECC1EFECC1C5AB /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[15:13] <ahmed> # Entry for /dev/sda2 :
[15:13] <ahmed> UUID=88ed7e6a-c849-42a7-a9e1-4213e295d84f none swap sw 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[15:13] <Jucato> !flood | ahmed
[15:13] <ubotu> ahmed: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sda1 /media/Server\040D ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sdb6 /media/sdb6 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sdb7 /media/sdb7 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:13] <ahmed> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:14] <ahmed> sorry i didnt know it will hung
[15:14] <Jucato> either way, do NOT paste long lines of text here
[15:14] <ahmed> sorry everybody i didnt know
[15:14] <Jucato> now you do ;)
[15:15] <ahmed> ok anyone now could help
[15:18] <ahmed> i want to edit files in any partition but i cannt look at  fstab file i posted it up
[15:22] <ahmed> this line in fstab means auto mount and full access for read and write is this rght??
[15:22] <ahmed>     /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:22] <mardi_soir> hello
[15:23] <mardi_soir> i run compiz but no decoration
[15:23] <mardi_soir> some one how to solve this ?
[15:24] <Jucato> mardi_soir: have you tried #compiz-fusion ?
[15:24] <mardi_soir> not yet
[15:25] <Jucato> ahmed: if that's your FAT32 drive, I think there are options missing...
[15:25] <Jucato> !fat32
[15:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:25] <Jucato> you might want to see that guide
[15:27] <wesley> Is it possible to plit a external hd in 2 and then all files to part 2 and then connect them ?
[15:27] <ahmed> i cannt edit some files there i get message says document is read only
[15:28] <ahmed> jucato i cannt edit some files there i get message says document is read only
[15:29] <Jucato> ahmed: how are you trying to edit it?
[15:30] <ahmed> its sheet file i opoen it with open office and tried to add some numbers i got that mesaage
[15:31] <Jucato> ahmed: hm.. what's your native language by the way?
[15:31] <Jucato> ahmed: and you don't edit that file with open office
[15:31] <Jucato> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[15:31] <ahmed> i write this file in english but im arabic
[15:32] <ganastasiou_> hi i wannot unmount a disk sth like hal-mtab error
[15:32] <Jucato> !sa
[15:32] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[15:32] <ahmed> ok i opened fstab
[15:32] <ganastasiou_> anyone know how to fix it?
[15:32] <flibbertygibbit> hey guys, any hints for getting adobe flash working in konqueror in gutsy?
[15:34] <ahmed> noone in arabic channel
[15:36] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:37] <user1> how can i download websites or a page and further linked pages on it?
[15:41] <ganastasiou_> why i cannot umount any disk without console?
[15:42] <ganastasiou_> :S
[15:42] <ganastasiou_> hal mtab error
[15:43] <ubuntu> OY VEY KUBUNTU!
[15:43] <JewishMartian> ok i installed kubuntu
[15:43] <JewishMartian> now when i reboot
[15:44] <JewishMartian> it says grub loading
[15:44] <JewishMartian> then error 2
[15:44] <JewishMartian> any ideas what happened/
[15:44] <JewishMartian> i have been working so hard to get linux working becuase i hate winblows
[15:45] <JewishMartian> anyone here
[15:46] <BluesKaj> JewishMartian, do you still have windows ?
[15:49] <user1> --19:48:46--  http://inspircd.org/wiki/modules
[15:49] <user1>            => `inspircd.org/wiki/modules'
[15:49] <user1> Resolving inspircd.org... 208.68.94.11
[15:49] <user1> Connecting to inspircd.org|208.68.94.11|:80... connected.
[15:49] <user1> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...         .E1
[15:49] <user1> its stuck there
[15:49] <jussi01> !paste | user1
[15:49] <ubotu> user1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:51] <BluesKaj> JewishMartian, this may help, alt+F2, type ' kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ' , check the line which has 'hiddenmenu' and make sure there's a # in front (it's called commenting out). that should make the bootloader show the boot menu.
[16:03] <init_alan> hey
[16:04] <Jimmy1> hi
[16:04] <Jimmy1> would you like some help ?
[16:05] <init_alan> hi Jimmy1, what's up
[16:05] <ganastasiou_> what's the hal-mtab?
[16:05]  * Jimmy1 looks around to find someone to help 
[16:05] <Jimmy1> heheh
[16:05] <Jimmy1> nm
[16:06] <Jimmy1> loading the gun to shoot myself cause i still cant figure out linux
[16:06] <init_alan> I need some help with JLex and Cup, somebody knows about it?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Jimmy1, give us a hint ...what's the prob
[16:07] <Jimmy1> hahah nah its all good
[16:07] <Jimmy1> its 1am
[16:08] <Jimmy1> but i tell ya what im VERY SLOWLY learning
[16:08] <BluesKaj> well, you threaten to shoot yopurself , seems kinda serious to me :)
[16:08] <Jimmy1> yesterday i was sooooofrustrated that i deleted linux and attempted to go back to windows
[16:08] <Jimmy1> but the keygen wasnt working so i went back to linux
[16:08] <Jimmy1> haha
[16:09] <init_alan> I think is good have both systems
[16:10] <init_alan> but, that depends of everyone
[16:10] <Jimmy1> yeh i cant run half the things i need with linux
[16:10] <Jimmy1> it sofar has taken me 1.5 days to get the display working properly with my nvidia card
[16:11] <init_alan> yeah, making video cards it's a headache
[16:11] <Jimmy1> so its not the most user friendly program onthe market unfortunetly but im trying to think outside the box thats why im still using it
[16:13] <init_alan> Jimmy1, which part of the world you are?
[16:13] <Jimmy1> Australia
[16:13] <init_alan> wuau, you are so far
[16:13] <init_alan> I am in Guatemala
[16:13] <Jimmy1> hahah
[16:13] <Jimmy1> really  ! i dont even know where that is
[16:14] <init_alan> It's in central America
[16:14] <Jimmy1> hahah my guess was gunna be south america
[16:14] <BluesKaj> you guys don't study geography in OZ ?
[16:14] <Jimmy1> yeh but i forget things quickly ! im just a bricklayer
[16:14] <init_alan> haha
[16:15] <init_alan> Do you know where is Guatemala, BluesKaj?
[16:15] <Jimmy1> the day will come when linux will be userfriendly
[16:15] <Jimmy1> Nope
[16:15] <jussio1> !ot
[16:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:15] <BluesKaj> that's no excuse
[16:15] <Jimmy1> hahah sorry jussio1
[16:16] <BluesKaj> just southeast of mexico
[16:16] <init_alan> ok, good
[16:16] <abenamor> salam
[16:16] <init_alan> you just see it on internet, right now
[16:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, jussio1 , there 's so much going on in here today ...we must keep a tight reign
[16:17] <Jimmy1> lol
[16:17] <ArTo> hi
[16:17] <Jimmy1> hey
[16:17] <Jimmy1> need help arto
[16:17] <jussio1> !opabuse | BluesKaj
[16:17] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Leave the ops alone!
[16:17] <ganastasiou_> anyone know how to remove mtab?
[16:17]  * Jimmy1 shrugs
[16:17] <Jimmy1> nope
[16:17] <stdin> remove mtab? it's dynamic
[16:17] <ArTo> i installed kde4 and now in kde3 when i run an application with alt+f2 i get kde4 applications instead kde3 ones
[16:18] <ArTo> do you know how to solve this?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> well, I do jave a clue cuz I have a map on the wall here  init_alan
[16:19] <init_alan> haha, ok I believe you
[16:19] <init_alan> where are you BluesKaj
[16:20] <stdin> ArTo: the kde4 one will start if there's a kde4 and a kde3 one installed, use the KMenu to start the KDE3 one or use the full path in the run dialog
[16:22] <BluesKaj> init_alan, Canada
[16:22] <init_alan> ok, you are more closer to me
[16:22] <Jimmy1> hello Canada
[16:23] <Jimmy1> :)
[16:23] <Jimmy1> i always wanted to go there
[16:23] <init_alan> that's a great country
[16:23] <init_alan> now I remember, I got a friend there
[16:23] <Jimmy1> yeh if i wasnt in oz there would have been a high chance i would have been in Canada
[16:24] <Jimmy1> i think Canada would be better than america
[16:24] <rabindra_> how do i shut down kpf? it's continuously running and i don't any way to stop it
[16:24] <delta-demon> hello from russia (and sorry my english). I'm have just installed kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop with gprs modem. i've configured kppp to access gprs. and... kopete is working, ping any website is ok... but konquror can't show me anything! after site' favicon is loaded, interaction with any site interrupts with error. can you help me? in conferences with my native language no one can't...
[16:24] <init_alan> Jimmy1 lives under the rocks, due to high temperature, haha
[16:25] <Jimmy1> hahah
[16:25] <Jimmy1> im from the coldest part of australia
[16:25] <Jimmy1> :(
[16:25] <init_alan> is there a coldest part?
[16:25] <Jimmy1> hahaha YES
[16:25] <init_alan> looks like all the country is very hot
[16:25] <Jimmy1> Canberra, melbourne Tasmania
[16:25] <Jimmy1> South Australia
[16:26] <Jimmy1> only perth Queensland Northern teretory is hot
[16:26] <Jimmy1> Territory
[16:26] <Jimmy1> how ever you spell it
[16:26] <init_alan> and the girls there, are hot too?
[16:26] <Jimmy1> hahah yeh they aint bad
[16:27] <Jimmy1> same as any other country ! good and bad
[16:27] <init_alan> yeah
[16:27] <Jimmy1> YAY my computer is updated
[16:27] <Jimmy1> now i can continue
[16:28] <Jimmy1> ah no still going
[16:28] <init_alan> what time is there? here are the nine a.m.
[16:29] <Jimmy1> 130am
[16:29] <Jimmy1> i should be in bed now
[16:30] <ds187> !feierabend
[16:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feierabend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <Jimmy1> like at 1030
[16:30] <init_alan> and what are you doing up?
[16:30] <openSea> hi, all! does anyone know why WEBMIN is not in the reps? is it a license problem?? and is there a good alternative?
[16:30] <Jimmy1> trying to get compiz working
[16:31] <tzd> how do i get kmail to open up automatically when i press a "mailto:" link please?
[16:31] <Jimmy1> i dunno
[16:31] <jussio1> Jimmy1 and init_alan: please take the offtopic chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <Jimmy1> Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :(
[16:31] <Jimmy1> but i liek it here
[16:31] <llutz> openSea: webmin is a security-risk, that's why most distros don't have it in their repos
[16:31] <Jimmy1> every1 is soo nice warm and inviting
[16:32] <Jimmy1> there is no one in there and its quiet in there
[16:32] <openSea> llutz, how so?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> tzd, make kmail your default email client in system settings/default applications for starters
[16:32] <tzd> BluesKaj: done that
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ok , what app are you using to launch the email client ?
[16:33] <llutz> tzd: firefox? add a "user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "kmail");"   to your user.js
[16:34] <tzd> BluesKaj: im using kontact. llutz: yes im on FF. I'll try that, thanks!
[16:34] <openSea> llutz: guys at #ubuntu suggested ebox, but i think it's gnome based. is there any k-alternative to webmin?
[16:35] <llutz> openSea: i don't know, and i don't see any need for a tool like that
[16:35] <ArTo> stdin: ok, thanx
[16:36] <openSea> llutz: maybe you're right, but right now i don't have an immediate need for my klamav, and i'd like to have it stop loading at startup. but i don't know how to do it, and thought webmin would give me access to startup applications on/off control.
[16:37] <llutz> openSea: update-rc.d    maybe helps you
[16:42] <init_alan> nm
[16:42] <init_alan> nm
[16:43] <tzd> llutz: creating and editing the "user.js" solved my issue. Thanks a lot for your help!
[16:43] <llutz> np
[16:43] <Jimmy1> no chatting in here init alan
[16:43] <Jimmy1> ;)
[16:43] <init_alan> why not
[16:43]  * Jimmy1 tells init off
[16:43] <Jimmy1> hehehe
[16:46] <lup0> shouldn't the release candidate come today?
[16:49] <openSea> llutz: checked update-rc.d, but don't know what to look for in it for klamav...
[16:50] <llutz> openSea: i don't know klamav. It's a service started at boottime from /etc/init.d  or it that a userspace-app started when opening kde-session?
[16:50] <rabindra> hey does anyone know about how to close kpf, it's continuously running in the background.
[16:57] <Ketrel> I have some wep secured networks, and I can't get knetworkmanager to autoconnect to them. (the info is stored), but it only connects to non-wep secured ones. There any way to get it to auto-connect to the wep ones?
[17:11] <metalstryker_> hello
[17:12] <jussio1> hi
[17:15] <benklop_> where do i go to discuss a possible bug in 8.04?
[17:16] <llutz> benklop_:  #kubuntu+1
[17:16] <jussio1> benklop_: #ubuntu+1
[17:16] <benklop_> thanks
[17:17] <flipstar> kewl 2.6.25 stable is out!
[17:20] <metalstryker_> is there a good news reader(like grabbit or newsbin for windows) on kubuntu?
[17:21] <jussio1> metalstryker_: akregator does rss, is that what you are after?
[17:21] <llutz> metalstryker_: knode
[17:21] <metalstryker_> not rss.
[17:21] <metalstryker_> i am looking to download newsgroups
[17:22] <jussio1> oh, yeah, there is, but ireally dont remember it
[17:24]  * a_c_m is installing Kubuntu64 on his new shiny quad core beast !!
[17:30] <anabain> does anybody know why netboot stuff for amd64 from ubuntu archives does not install a 64bits kernel?
[17:30] <spiroo> How do I remove a user on xsession?
[17:31] <anabain> not in gutsy neither in hardy
[17:31] <spiroo> a_c_m: You does not need a Quad core for that ;)
[17:32] <a_c_m> need and want ;) 2 totally different thigns
[17:32] <a_c_m> partitioning and installing now
[17:32] <anabain> btw, I'm running a quad core
[17:32] <a_c_m> got a 1tb of storage :)
[17:33] <a_c_m> was fighting with vista all this morning getting the crapware off and getting it into a useable state
[17:33] <anabain> a_c_m, I only could install hardy, but not 64bits version, though I fetched the correct stuff... weird!
[17:34] <JoshOvki> a_c_m: is it possible to get it working to a useable state?;)
[17:35] <spiroo> No it is not
[17:35] <spiroo> Vista sucks and Kubuntu rocks, that is how it is ,)
[17:36] <JoshOvki> XP was always a good OS
[17:37] <spiroo> No it wasnt
[17:37] <anabain> does anybody run a true 64bits amd system? if so, which kernel package are you using, please?
[17:37] <spiroo> Just to make it clear for evryone. Windows and Gates sucks .d
[17:38] <flipstar> anabain: x86_64 its covered by generic kernel
[17:38] <JoshOvki> spiroo: if it wasnt that good why was it such a success and still is a sucess
[17:39] <anabain> flipstar, do you mean that the generic kernel installed runs my system in 64bits mode? how can I check?
[17:39] <spiroo> JoshOvki: Because people does not have a choice when they buy a PC? .D
[17:40] <spiroo> It is Windows or nothing .D
[17:40] <JoshOvki> spiroo: Dell?
[17:41] <spiroo> Who want Dell.
[17:41] <a_c_m> humm
[17:41] <JoshOvki> spiroo: Windows XP has been alot more successfull than Vista, people where more keen to swap over it XP than vista.
[17:41] <a_c_m> i want to install xfs as my root file system
[17:41] <Idrogeno> spiroo: off topic.
[17:41] <Idrogeno> JoshOvki: off topic
[17:41] <JoshOvki> spiroo: alot of people or they would be out of bussiness?
[17:41] <a_c_m> the installer warms me about needing to use lilo instead of grub
[17:41] <JoshOvki> Idrogeno: i am in offtopic too
[17:41] <a_c_m> which i'm fine with
[17:42] <a_c_m> but i dont get an
[17:42] <Idrogeno> then don't talk about it here.
[17:42] <a_c_m> option to install it
[17:42] <a_c_m> can anyone help?
[17:42] <JoshOvki> Idrogeno: well its rather boring talking about it to myself, because i totaly agree with myself
[17:43] <BluesKaj> anabain, I tried 64bit kubuntu 7.10 , but it wouldn't run some apps unless i used the ia32-libs so I just switched back to 32 bit to save tha hassle .There's no perceptible difference in speed IMO.
[17:43] <spiroo> I think it is a huge change with 64-bit :)
[17:43] <spiroo> You just have to use a lof of RAM ;)
[17:44] <spiroo> Quite a shame I still use an Prescott 3.0GHz HT still :D Core 2 soon ;)
[17:44] <a_c_m> anyone? lilo install with the installer?
[17:44] <a_c_m> please?
[17:45] <colonia> why kubunto 7.04 take soooo many ram resourses
[17:45] <BluesKaj> !ia32-libs | anabain
[17:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32-libs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:45] <flipstar> the 32bit kernel can also deal with up to 64gb when it right configured
[17:45] <spiroo> a_c_m: What is wrong?
[17:45] <a_c_m> spiroo: i want to create my / with xfs
[17:46] <a_c_m> the installer warms me grub doesnt like it and that i should use lilo
[17:46] <a_c_m> but i dont get an option anywhere to install lilo
[17:46] <a_c_m> so i'm confused
[17:46] <a_c_m> and stuck
[17:46] <a_c_m> i do get the option not to install any bootloader...
[17:47] <flipstar> a_c_m: maybe you have to install lilo outside the installer
[17:47] <spiroo> I am not sure what xfs is? :P
[17:47] <Ketrel> Is there any way to get a graphical GRUB?
[17:47] <flipstar> or just choose a supported filesystem for grub
[17:48] <llutz> a_c_m: create a small /boot partition with ext3
[17:48] <spiroo> Ketrel: I guess not. But I think they are wroking on it for grub 2 migration.
[17:48] <Ketrel> spiroo: ok thanks :)
[17:48] <a_c_m> llutz: humm i might do that... how big does it need to be?
[17:48] <flipstar> about 100-200mb
[17:48] <llutz> a_c_m: mine is 25MB
[17:49] <a_c_m> llutz: 100 should be fine then :)
[17:49] <llutz>  du -sh /boot
[17:49] <llutz> 18M     /boot
[17:49] <flipstar> but than you only can have 1 kernel installed at the same time
[17:49] <llutz> i only need 1 kernel
[17:49] <flipstar> i've currently 4
[17:50] <llutz> pointless
[17:51] <flipstar> now i'm going to install the fifth..
[17:52] <llutz> flipstar: strange hobbies you have :)
[17:52] <spiroo> How do I remove an user in kubuntu?
[17:52] <llutz> deluser
[17:52] <flipstar> it was torvalds that released the 2.6.25!
[17:52] <ajaya> hey
[17:53] <spiroo> llutz: Thanks, and while I am still asking. How do I change usergroup for a certain user. I wanna give it root access.
[17:53]  * flipstar rebooting
[17:53] <llutz> usermod
[17:54] <spiroo> How do I use usermod?
[17:54] <llutz> man usermod
[17:55] <spiroo> yes, but what syntax to change usergroup, or add to a certain account?
[17:57] <llutz> spiroo: reading man-pages helps a lot
[17:57] <llutz> bluestime, time to go
[18:01]  * flipstar back :)
[18:03] <adasd> Hi. I want to rip a DVD video to an mpeg format. I have opened K3b and selected the option but I am lost. How do I rip it to the mpeg format and save on my harddrive?
[18:04] <liquidxd> hi
[18:04] <adasd> oh wait I just fount the help
[18:08] <Lopin> Does anyone know a way I can recover the Directory Structure of a damaged hard disk?
[18:08] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[18:09] <doktoreas> anyone upgrading to beta, has firebug working?
[18:09] <Lopin> I moved all of my music to an external drive, and dropped it half way through the transfer back...
[18:09] <flipstar> !recover | Lopin
[18:09] <ubotu> Lopin: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although a method that might work in some cases is described at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[18:10] <madex> new kubuntu out yet?
[18:10] <Lopin> I just need a directory structure, that way I can figure out what I need to redownload...
[18:10] <flipstar> madex: soon
[18:10] <madex> kk cheers flipstar
[18:10] <Lopin> And, it's NTFS format...
[18:11] <flipstar> madex: RC is already out..if you want to test.. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[18:14] <Lopin> Those links don't help me...
[18:18] <a_c_m> cool installed and now updateing
[18:18] <a_c_m> loads of updates!!
[18:23] <kde-devel> How do I change ownership of a directory?
[18:25] <flipstar> kde-devel: with konqueror >right click>properties>permissions
[18:26] <FFForever> why is google earth so slow in linux?
[18:27] <flipstar> FFForever: maybe no 3d acceleration installed ?
[18:27] <FFForever> how do i check?
[18:27] <flipstar> type <glxinfo |grep -i direct> in a shell
[18:28] <FFForever> Direct Rendering: Yes
[18:28] <Ketrel> Hmmm
[18:28] <Ketrel> My monitor turns off after a set ammount of time even though I have it unchecked
[18:28] <flipstar> FFForever: how did you installed google earth ?
[18:29] <FFForever> sudo ./google-earth....bin :)
[18:29] <flipstar> better use the ubuntu installer ..
[18:29] <kde-devel> flipstar: Yes, but I cannot change if I am not a owner of the directory :D I need it to be manually done in temrinal ;)
[18:29] <FFForever> i downloaded it from google?
[18:29] <flipstar> maybe its make a differents
[18:29] <flipstar> FFForever: install googleearth-package or so
[18:30] <flipstar> the run make-googleearth-package
[18:30] <flipstar> kde-devel: just run the browser as root <kdesu konqueror>
[18:31] <flipstar> kde-devel: if you need it in a shell see <man chown> or so
[18:31] <kde-devel> flipstar: Sorry I am using Kde4 :D
[18:32] <flipstar> kde-devel: visit #kubuntu-kde4 then :)
[18:33] <kde-devel> Will do ;)
[18:33] <Nyad> Hello. I want to rip my DVD movie into an mpeg format. I checked the docs and they appeared to have information on it but they only told me how to burn to a DVD. I want to write it onto my harddrive. please can you help me
[18:33] <DarkriftX> question, every time i plug in my pda (usb) my wifi disconnects and it tries to connect to eth2 (the pda) and i lose internet. How can i make this stop happening
[18:33]  * combo bedzie później ;P
[18:34] <Moo_> Can someone help me to get kubuntu(gutsy) to find Topfield?
[18:35] <flipstar> Nyad: maybe use acidrip or so
[18:36] <flipstar> DarkriftX: sounds like a bug..
[18:36] <DarkriftX> id say so lol
[18:36] <Nyad> is it not possible with k3b? flipstar?
[18:36] <DarkriftX> is there a way to make it so my wifi is always enabled?
[18:36] <DarkriftX> that sucks when i cant plug something in without losing internet (lots of stuff running that needs internet)
[18:37] <flipstar> Nyad: maybe it is..i just don't know how
[18:38] <Nyad> ok tnx
[18:46] <W8TAH> did they take IRC out of kopete 0.5.0?????
[18:51] <erdem_> hi
[18:51] <sh4rm4> is there an application firewall for kubuntu ?
[18:51] <rabindra> any download accelerator or manager with resume supported for kubuntu?
[18:52] <erdem_> any there install rpm for kubuntu_?
[18:53] <sh4rm4> erdem_: there is a converter for rpm -> deb available
[18:53] <sh4rm4> dunno its name though
[18:53] <Odd-rationale> !rpm
[18:53] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[18:53] <erdem_> hmmm okey
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> erdem_: what did you want to install?
[18:54] <erdem_> I want to install Flash player
[18:54] <rabindra> does anyone know about any download manager?
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> erdem_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:55] <Odd-rationale> rabindra: I use kget
[18:55] <erdem_> okey
[18:55] <erdem_> thnx
[18:57] <rabindra> Odd-rationale: does it support resume?
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> rabindra: It should. but doesn't always. in my experience...
[18:57] <rabindra> Odd-rationale: anything better than that?
[18:59] <Odd-rationale> rabindra: not that I know of. kget is probably the best. the problem could be user error, not kget itself :P
[18:59] <Nyad> is there any disadvantage to installing something with the konsole as opposed to installing with the GUI?
[18:59] <rickest> Nyad: not at all
[19:00] <rickest> Nyad: most GUIs simply call the console version to do what they do anyway, practically identical
[19:01] <Nyad> ah, kwl. but if I install things with the GUI then I can see what I have installed so its easier to remove packages
[19:02] <flipstar> apt-get of corse also shows whats going to install
[19:02] <flipstar> and its easier to copy there
[19:05] <love> руские есть? О.о
[19:06] <jcfp> !ru | love
[19:06] <ubotu> love: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:07] <Ax-Ax> how can i edit what's being started by kinit?
[19:11] <love> ubotu, на кой мне помощ =)
[19:12] <Trel> Does anyone here have any issues with the power manager?
[19:13] <love> тут чё.. хелп деск? О.о
[19:13] <love> This channel for help?
[19:14] <Ax-Ax> love: if you can ask in english, yes :)
[19:15] <love> No, I can't sak in english =)
[19:15] <love> ask**
[19:15] <love> good night :-)
[19:17] <Werenerd> Is there anyone on here using Kmail that can tell me how to have it download all emails from the server and not just the new ones?
[19:22] <jcfp> Ax-Ax: with 'started by kinit' you just mean the system services?
[19:22] <phoenix3051> can anyone suggest why with kernel "2.6.22-14" kubuntu runs fine but when they are upgraded to "2.6.22-15" or "2.6.22-16" it doesn't boot pass the intial "blue bar" kubuntu screen?
[19:22] <Ax-Ax> jcfp: yes
[19:23] <phoenix3051> opps should have said runing the latest version of 8.04
[19:24] <Ax-Ax> jcfp: like kgameportd and such
[19:25] <jcfp> Ax-Ax: if those are kernel threads than it's a matter of whether certain hardware is present and the associated kernel modules are loaded
[19:26] <jcfp> some of that may be configurable via boot parameters, or disabling certain modules
[19:26] <Ax-Ax> jcfp: but i don't want it to run, i don't even use kde
[19:27] <jcfp> Ax-Ax: kernel threads are part of the core of the operating system - not a graphical interface like kde
[19:28] <jcfp> "k" doesn't always refer to kde ;)
[19:28] <Ax-Ax> why not? :P
[19:28] <sobczyk> hi, will the final version of hardy have pulseaudio, because I have problems with multiplexing the sound (old config files) ?
[19:29] <Ax-Ax> what does pulseaudio do btw
[19:29] <sobczyk> it's a sound server
[19:29] <sobczyk> in userspace
[19:30] <Ax-Ax> like esd and jack?
[19:31] <sobczyk> yes, like jack
[19:31] <flipstar> sobczyk: yes, it already has pulse
[19:31] <sobczyk> though the pulse package isn't used
[19:32] <sobczyk> I have to install it manually?
[19:32] <Ax-Ax> what does pulse do specifically?
[19:32] <sobczyk> http://pulseaudio.org/
[19:33] <sobczyk> quite handy, I've been using it in gutsy. The only ploblem was skype and some games (like enemy territory)
[19:35] <harmental> guys is there any howto for using external projectors?
[19:37] <FrauHansen> O.o just got my first "complete freeze" :( hope this won't happen again since it seems to be a well known problem
[19:39] <FrauHansen> harmental: maybe this one helps: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[19:40] <sobczyk> besides I have problem with shutting down (reseting)  KDE the screen turns black, and I can't switch to the terminal, the only solution is sysrq+E
[19:42] <Trel> When I try to use guidance-power-manager, it pretty much locks up, is there any known cause fix or alternative?
[19:44] <Trel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558978 <---- same exact problem, but that thread got no answers
[19:47] <Centaur5> Which directory would I purge to delete all the settings in Kontact?  I already tried .kde/share/apps/kmail
[19:48] <fat-head> if i have a 64bit version of kubuntu can i still install 32bit drivers ?
[19:48] <fat-head> if i also have 32bit libs ?
[19:48] <fat-head> anyone ?
[19:49] <JKIceman> hi there, I have a little problem here. I have a card reader and usb hub from revoltec and everytime i put a mc in there it says permission denied but in the build in reader of my laptop it works, any solutions?
[19:49] <stdin> drivers? no
[19:49] <vit> hola
[19:50] <vit> alguien esta hai
[19:50] <vit> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:50] <fat-head> si
[19:51] <|Dreams|> does imgburn work in virtual box with setting the laybreak manually
[19:51] <fat-head> que quieres ?
[19:51] <jussi01> !es |vit
[19:51] <ubotu> vit: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:51] <fat-head> yo hablo espanol :P
[19:52] <vit> hola primera ves q uso esto
[19:52] <BluesKaj> |Dreams|, whynot just tru k3b in kubuntu ?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> try
[19:52] <jussi01> vit: only english in here please
[19:53] <|Dreams|> because i need to set the layerbreak manually is that possible with a dl dvd?
[19:54] <fat-head> if i have 64bit kubuntu with 32bit libs installed can i install 32bit drivers for hardware ?
[19:54] <stdin> fat-head: you can't use 32bit drivers on a 64bit kernel, no
[19:56] <fat-head> kk
[19:56] <fat-head> thnx for clearing that up
[19:57] <fat-head> stdin: are 64bit kubuntu preinstalled drivers as efficient and bug free as the same preinstalled drivers but in 32bit ?
[19:57] <stdin> depends on the driver, but for most yes
[19:58] <fat-head> stdin thnx
[19:58] <phoenix3051> Has anyone had any problems with 8.04 not booting with kernels 2.6.24-15 or -16 ?
[19:59] <fat-head> i have been told many times that 64bit versions of oses are not as stable as 32bit versions is this true ? and do 32bit libs allow use of 32bit apps 100% ?
[20:00] <stdin> fat-head: 64bit apps are newer, so may have more bugs but you can run 32bit apps with the 32bit libs yes
[20:00] <rickest> fat-head: I don't stability is as much a problem as availability; i.e., no flash player for 64 = no youtube.  you can set up a 32-bit chroot, I think that's what most people do
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> fat-head: 64-bit kubuntu is generally stable
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> but yes, there are more bugs, particularly in the drivers
[20:01] <ScorpKing> hi stdin. long time no see :)
[20:01] <stdin> ScorpKing: I've been lurking ;)
[20:01] <ScorpKing> stdin: hehe. been working. :)
[20:02] <ScorpKing> how do i disable passwords for samba?
[20:02] <stdin> well, I lurk while I work
[20:02] <ScorpKing> hehe
[20:02]  * ScorpKing summons genii..
[20:02] <stdin> security = user -> security = share
[20:03] <stdin> in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:03] <ScorpKing> ah ok. thanks :)
[20:03] <ScorpKing> i have it on user now. will change it
[20:04] <ubuntu> hellow
[20:04] <ScorpKing> welcome ubuntu :)
[20:07] <svend-ev> hi there
[20:08] <ScorpKing> is there a way to move the configuration from vmware-server to vmware-player so networking works the same in player as it does in server?
[20:10] <svend-ev> bye
[20:10] <stdin> not sure, it'll have all the config files in /etc/vmware-(something) depending on the install, copy+paste+hope
[20:11] <ScorpKing> it's in /etc/vmware/ but not all files are the same. guess i'll have to go through them all
[20:12] <stdin> ScorpKing: it'll be the vmnet?/ dirs
[20:12] <Nyad> Hi how do I remap my keyboard layout so I can change it?
[20:12] <TeslaTony> I disabled my wifi card and can't remember how to re-enable it
[20:12] <ScorpKing> stdin: yes. 1 & 8
[20:14] <ScorpKing> TeslaTony: where did you disble it?
[20:15] <TeslaTony> ScorpKing: I think I did it through Knetwork Manager
[20:16] <ScorpKing> TeslaTony: i don't have it running but if you right click on knetworkmanager there should be an option "enable wireless"
[20:17] <mactaylor> how big should / be?
[20:17] <heath> I increased my compiz desktop to 2 and can't figure out how to get back to my 1st desktop... can anyone help me?
[20:17] <ScorpKing> mactaylor: smaller than 7GB gives problems. 15GB is a good size depending on how big your disk is
[20:18] <mactaylor> how does under 7GB give problems? fragmentation?
[20:18] <ScorpKing> heath: <ctrl>+<f1> maybe?
[20:18] <ScorpKing> mactaylor: it gets too small if you install a lot of stuff
[20:19] <TeslaTony> Skorpking: Oh, no, wireless IS enabled. I disabled my PCI-E card because Madwifi has some issues with it, and I switched back to using my USB adapter, but now I want access to that card again
[20:19] <heath> ScorpKing: That puts me on 1 of the 2nd desktop
[20:19] <heath> I need to get back to 1 and the 1st desktop
[20:19] <ScorpKing> heath: ah ok. i see. no idea then
[20:20] <heath> how can I quit compiz and get back to normal
[20:20] <ScorpKing> heath: press <alt>+<f2> and run kwin --replace
[20:20] <ScorpKing> TeslaTony: it might be disabled in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:21] <heath> lol... it still keeps my on the second desktop
[20:21] <ler_hydra> hello all, anyone have an idea why adobe's acrobat reader is always the default program to open pdf's, even if I change the settings in konqueror (and set KPDF as default), pdfs will still open with acrobat, and the setting in konqueror's options is lost
[20:21] <TeslaTony> ScorpKing: I think you're right. Thanks
[20:21] <ScorpKing> heath: hehe. in kcontrol maybe?
[20:22] <ScorpKing> ler_hydra: it will still be in kcontrol
[20:22] <heath> how can I add a panel...
[20:22] <heath> that way I can click back to the first 4
[20:23] <ScorpKing> heath: right click on the panel. the options are there
[20:23] <lipe> eae
[20:23] <heath> ... the panel is on the first desktop... this is great
[20:23] <ler_hydra> I've changed the setting, it doesn't stick, adobe's acrobat always is at the top of the list when I open the settings panel
[20:23] <ScorpKing> heath: you have two monitors?
[20:23] <heath> I have tons of things open on the first desktop and can't get back there
[20:23] <heath> no just one
[20:24] <ScorpKing> heath: i'm a little confused. is all of this on tty7?
[20:24] <harmental> FrauHansen: thanks!!
[20:25] <heath> yeah... I was runing compiz with 4 workspace and 1 desktop... I changed it to 2 desktop and that gave me 8 workspaces
[20:25] <heath> I click on the 5th workspace and that took me to desktop 2 where nothing is
[20:25] <heath> I know it sounds crazy...
[20:25] <ScorpKing> and now you're back at 4 desktops after you ran kwin --replace?
[20:26] <ScorpKing> heath: indeed.. ;)
[20:26] <heath> I ran kwin and it did not bring my panel back
[20:26] <heath> 1 empty desktop
[20:26] <heath> lol
[20:26] <ScorpKing> i see an option in kcontrol for multiple desktops under desktop
 will switch between the desktops if i understand your problem correctly
[20:28] <heath> Think of desktop 1 as 1234 and desktop 2 as 5678
[20:28] <Nyad> Hi how do I remap my keyboard layout so I can change it?
[20:29] <heath> I am on 5 and can't get back to 4
[20:29] <ScorpKing> heath: ah. i wonder how you managed that.. ;)
[20:29] <heath> Only me....
[20:29] <level1> hi is the hardy rc going to be released today?
[20:30] <ScorpKing> heath: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f7/89> ?
[20:30] <ScorpKing> 8/9*
[20:31] <metalstryker_> does anyone know how to get a Logitech Quick Cam Pro 9000 to work with Kubuntu
[20:31] <ScorpKing> !hardware
[20:31] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:32] <ScorpKing> maybe there's something there ^
[20:32] <metalstryker_> thanks, ill check it out
[20:34] <metalstryker_> i found my webcam in the list.. it is compatible.. but i have no idea how to get it to run or intall drivers for it, thats what i need help with
[20:34] <Nyad> does anyone know how I can switch to a different keyboard layout?
[20:35] <jussi01> !keyboard
[20:35] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[20:36] <dwidmann> /var/lib/apt/lists + /var/cache/apt/archives + nfs could be interesting
[20:36] <heath> I am going to have to kill it..... peace out
[20:36] <dwidmann> good luck with the murdering heath
[20:37] <ScorpKing> hehe dwidmann :)
[20:37] <dwidmann> hehe, how's it going ScorpKing
[20:37] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: great thanks :)
[20:38] <eagles0513875> !nautilus
[20:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:39] <dwidmann> So I can make it so I only have to update apt and download the packages once to upgrade multiple computers :) Nice.
[20:39] <Nicker_> does doctor phil have an irc channel?
[20:39] <dwidmann> Nicker_: probably not on freenode.
[20:39] <Nicker_> =(
[20:40] <wesley> should today not the rc get released
[20:40] <ere4si> !hardy | wesley
[20:40] <ubotu> wesley: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:40] <dwidmann> wesley: I don't quite get what you're saying, perhaps if you rearrange the words :s
[20:41] <wesley> i mean the realese candidate it should be released today ???
[20:42] <dwidmann> It might get released today, whether it should or not could be an entirely different question
[20:44] <wesley> ow yeah because there nothing on the ftp servers
[20:45] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: also look at apt-move and apt-cache ;)
[20:45] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: apt-move?
[20:46] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: that's what i use. i have about 7 computers to keep up to date
[20:47] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: one sec, gonna check it out
[20:47] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: i'm looking for a link. one sec
[20:47] <dwidmann> I've got four computers to keep up to date, but two are i386 and the other two are x86_64
[20:47] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto
[20:49] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: so that method uses a CD to do it?
[20:49] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: faster for me to use NFS probably ...
[20:49] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: yeah but scip that part
[20:49] <ScorpKing> skip*
[20:49] <Redhammer_the_Ol> short questoin, I am a gnome user with kde4 on top
[20:50] <Redhammer_the_Ol> now my kde icons are never all there (not just gnome prgs but for loads of kde stuff) so how do I fix that
[20:50] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: pm me you email address and i'll email you my scripts and instructions
[20:55] <eagles0513875> any idea bout this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63564/
[20:56] <eagles0513875> trying to install for testing and bug fixing issues but its not letting me
[21:09] <Ketrel> Ok, I was having problems with the power manager that came with Kubuntu, the python one (it would work on the tray, but if I opened it to configure, it would lock up), so I installed kpowermanager.
[21:10] <Ketrel> I have two questions, is there any way to get the python one to work right (I liked it better) and kpowermanager does not seem to affect the brightness even when it should, is there any way to fix that?
[21:10]  * combo bedzie później ;P
[21:11] <Ketrel> (Sorry, I mean kpowersave)
[21:11] <eagles0513875> !pl | combo
[21:11] <ubotu> combo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:14] <remi> bonjour
[21:14] <jcfp> eagles0513875: what version of kubuntu do you use?
[21:15] <eagles0513875> jcfp: hardy beta im helping test and bug fix
[21:15] <eagles0513875> 64 bit btw
[21:16] <flavio> salve a tutti
[21:17] <flavio> dovrei chiedervi una informazione
[21:17] <jcfp> eagles0513875: you might find more help for that error you in #ubuntu+1 then
[21:17] <jcfp> !it | flavio
[21:17] <ubotu> flavio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:17] <flavio> ok
[21:17] <flavio> grazie
[21:18] <eagles0513875> jcfp: thanks
[21:21] <Ulyssus> hey guys, im running kubuntu 7.10 and i have problems using flashplayer in konqueror. it is installed via the package from adobe.com and it's working in firefox but not in konqueror =/ although i can find it in about:plugins
[21:23] <johnsen> have you tried to look up some guides on how to get it working in konq?
[21:23] <Ulyssus> sure =)
[21:23] <johnsen> might try http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[21:24] <Nyad> Im in the screen to edit my keyboard layout. but how do I create a custom one?
[21:25] <ScorpKing> Ulyssus: copy the plugin from the firefox plugin directory to the plugin directory of konqueror or set konqueror to scan the firefox plugin directory for new plugins. it should work either way
[21:25]  * combo powrócił ;P
[21:25] <eagles0513875> !pl
[21:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:25] <eagles0513875> combo: ?
[21:26] <combo> eagles0513875: ? :D
[21:26] <combo> eagles0513875: hi ;P
[21:26] <eagles0513875> english or not lol
[21:26] <combo> oh sorry ;P
[21:26] <combo> i'm sitting on many canals also non-english
[21:26] <combo> sorka
[21:26] <combo> will change that ;P
[21:27] <eagles0513875> combo: what language u nativley speak
[21:27] <combo> eagles0513875: polish ;P
[21:27] <combo> eagles0513875: i've just forgotten to change that communicats ;P
[21:27] <eagles0513875> !pl | combo
[21:27] <ubotu> combo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:28] <eagles0513875> combo: if u prefer to speak in polish that channel is for ya bud
[21:28] <combo> eagles0513875: o yes, i know. i also use polish canal but this one is bettter i think ;P
[21:28] <combo> eagles0513875: i prefer ENG ;P
[21:28] <Nyad> Im in the screen to edit my keyboard layout. but how do I create a custom one?
[21:29] <eagles0513875> combo: oh well my humble apologies
[21:29] <metalstryker_> in Kubuntu where do you go to change mouse options... im new sorry for the stupid question, lol
[21:29] <Ulyssus> ScorpKing: I dont know why but in "configure konqueror" I dont find the point "plugins" oO.
[21:29] <combo> eagles0513875: thanks for info, anyway ;)
[21:30] <eagles0513875> combo: no problem
[21:40] <Nyad> for text we have pastebins. what do we use for sharing files temporarily
[21:42] <_ZeuZ_> I need to log into a kosumi router ( i have the user and password) but from a command line browser, any way yo do it? tried lynx, wont work...
[21:43] <beener> anyone know how to get the xbox live vision camera workin
[21:43] <beener> ive tried alot
[21:43] <beener> nuthing is working cept makeing it slow
[21:43] <eagles0513875> where is teh gpg key stored cuz i would like to back it up and email it to myself
[21:44] <SlimeyPete> eagles0513875: in your gpg keyring, usually
[21:44] <eagles0513875> SlimeyPete: so the secring
[21:44] <beener> and after folowing the insall instructions i now get a bookmark error
[21:45] <SlimeyPete> eagles0513875: I can't remember the export commands but there's a howto at http://dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html
[21:45] <eagles0513875> SlimeyPete: just wanna know what file so i can email it to myself as an email attachment
[21:46] <SlimeyPete> eagles0513875: see http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart/gpg/gpg-cs.html
[21:46] <SlimeyPete> "to export a public key" and/or "to export a private key"
[21:50] <Nyad> for text we have pastebins. what do we use for sharing files temporarily
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Nyad: there's an image bin
[21:50] <Nyad> I want to paste a tarball
[21:51] <eagles0513875> Nyad: cant
[21:51] <eagles0513875> at least not that i know of
[21:51] <Nyad> :(
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> Nyad: if you have a forum account you can add it as an attchment to a post and give us the link...
[21:52] <Nyad> ok thanks, nice idea
[21:52] <Odd-rationale> http://ubuntuforums.org that is
[21:56] <drif> what's going on? second time (atleast when I move/delete 5-10Gigs stuff and gain just few gigs if any..
[21:56] <Nyad> I found rapidshare.com
[22:12] <Gerrit> Hi, I'm trying to install python-matplotlib, but there is an "error processing python-tz", "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1", and then various errors with packets depending on this one (http://pastebin.ca/988752); how do I solve or workaround this problem?
[22:15] <Ahmuck> hi.  does kubutu have auto-detect hardware?
[22:15] <joeyadams> Depends on what kind of hardware you're referring to.  Generally speaking, yes
[22:16] <joeyadams> It autodetects USB, video cards, sound cards, etc.
[22:16] <ronan_> bonsoir
[22:16] <joeyadams> Although for some reason, the KDE setup wizard makes you manually select a printer (though I've seen it autodetect a printer before).
[22:17] <ronan_> il y a des francais ici svp ?
[22:18] <joeyadams> Gerrit> Try apt-get remove python-tz, then apt-get install python-tz to see if that corrects the problem
[22:18] <jcfp> !fr | ronan_
[22:18] <ubotu> ronan_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:18] <joeyadams> It might be a good idea to remove (or back up) the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pytz folder
[22:19] <Ketrel> Two questions, when I locked my session, the screensaver would come on, that stopped, how can I get it back? Also, I think alt+tab is behaving differently, is there anything that could've changed that?
[22:20] <joeyadams> Ketrel> Compiz screws that up
[22:20] <Gerrit> joeyadams: it doesn't... but it does give some hint, apparently there is some file already and it doesn't like that
[22:21] <joeyadams> Maybe moving that folder out to somewhere where the installer won't find it will help.
[22:21] <joeyadams> Ketrel> Look in your ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[22:21] <Gerrit> with this information I solved my problem.
[22:21] <Gerrit> thanks
[22:22] <joeyadams> Ketrel> there might be an AltTabStyle=CDE or so
[22:22] <joeyadams> Get rid of that or comment it out with a #
[22:22] <joeyadams> then restart kwin by issuing kwin --replace
[22:22] <Ketrel> kk, checking now
[22:23] <Ketrel> joeyadams, thanks, that line was there
[22:23] <Ketrel> is that what compiz screws with?
[22:23] <joeyadams> As for the screensaver, I'm not sure about that.  Maybe reenabling your screensaver by right clicking on the desktop and following dialogs will turn it back on.
[22:23] <joeyadams> Yes
[22:23] <joeyadams> Every time you start compiz, it will do that again.
[22:24] <Ketrel> (screensaver was fixed by restarting X)
[22:24] <joeyadams> okay :)
[22:24] <Ketrel> as far as the thing compiz messes with, is there a way to have it not do that?
[22:25] <joeyadams> I tried locking my ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc one time, but compiz complains and can't be configured correctly if you do.
[22:26] <joeyadams> I just simply run the fix every time.
[22:26] <joeyadams> I guess you could make a quickie script that seds it out
[22:26] <joeyadams> or greps
[22:27] <Ketrel> ok, I'll mess with that in a while :)
[22:27] <joeyadams> e.g.:  grep -v 'Alt.*CDE' ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc > ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc_temp ; cp ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc_temp ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ; kwin --replace
[22:28] <joeyadams> I read up on regular expressions a few days ago, and I'm glad I did :)
[22:30] <joeyadams> You could also simply cp a backup kwinrc to the folder, but that will destroy any new settings you make after making the backup.
[22:30] <vasilisa> How come ever siince i installed glx, my wmv movies have a green bar along the top and are lower quality in both kaffeine and VLC???
[22:31] <joeyadams> vasilisa> You mean a compositing window manager like Compiz?  glx is the OpenGL implementation stack on the X windows system (or something like that :) ).
[22:32] <vasilisa> joeyadams: Well I had to install glx in order to make compiz work....
[22:35] <joeyadams> vasilisa> Does using a non-compositing window manager like kwin or metacity cause the video problem?
[22:35] <adz21c> joeyadams: but its likely compiz is the one causing problems not glx, since i doubt glz is involved in video rendering
[22:35] <adz21c> wrong person
[22:35] <vasilisa> Hmm....
[22:36] <vasilisa> can i log in somehow in metacity and see? ever since i installed glx it loads that forcifully when i log in
[22:37] <joeyadams> metacity --replace (or, in KDE, kwin --replace)
[22:37] <joeyadams> metacity is the GNOME display manager.
[22:37] <joeyadams> I mean window manager
[22:38] <vasilisa> ooh neat command.
[22:38] <vasilisa> Didnt fix the vids
[22:41] <vasilisa> okay that failed...
[22:41] <vasilisa> after it failed to fix the videos, i also crashed
[22:41] <vasilisa> what was i using before i apt-get installed xgl...
[22:43] <bolder> nabend
[22:44] <joeyadams> vasilisa> You can apt-get remove xgl.  The packages won't have to be redownloaded if you want to use them because they are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:45] <joeyadams> After doing that, you may want to kill your X server.  A good way to do this is to properly log out of KDE/GNOME, then Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, get root, and killall Xorg
[22:45] <joeyadams> Then, the X server will start up right away
[22:45] <joeyadams> You could just killall Xorg from your window manager, but it's not friendly to the window manager.
[22:45] <vasilisa> oi. ok
[22:46] <vasilisa> thanks im going to try
[22:50] <vasilisa> YAY it worked
[22:50] <vasilisa> thanks a bunch
[22:51] <vasilisa> im not fond of xgl, it made fonts small , etc. i need to find some other way to use compiz
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> aiglx...
[22:54] <Nyad> what file must I edit to disable my capslock key?
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> vasilisa: ati card on gutsy?
[22:59] <vasilisa> nosrednaekim:  Yes, ati on gutsy
[22:59] <vasilisa> aiglx?
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> vasilisa: I'd say wait 8 days and just install hardy
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> which should have aiglx with ati
[23:00] <vasilisa> nosrednaekim: k xD
[23:00] <vasilisa> sweet
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> or you can install it now... its fairly stable
[23:00] <Nyad> what file must I edit to disable my capslock key?
[23:13] <eduardo> .
[23:15] <Nyad> quiet isn't it
[23:21] <PeterFA> After using synaptic to install fonts, do I need to restart anything for the new fonts to be usable?
[23:22] <Nyad> the apps themselves must be restarted to take effect
[23:23] <Nyad> but a full system reboot couldn't hurt :)
[23:23] <Nyad> but its not necessary
[23:23] <Jucato> at most only X is needed to be restarted
[23:25] <bolder> can i get kubuntu as live-CD ?
[23:26] <PeterFA> I've got a billion fonts now :)
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> bolder: certainly
[23:28] <Dr_willis> The kubuntu 'desktop' cd is a live cd.
[23:32] <bolder> ok thx
[23:36] <matt_> just burning the newest 8.04 kubuntu "3.5" edition...just wondering...when it is officially released, that being 8.04, i'll be able to just "update" the the "official" version, right?
[23:36] <Dr_willis> matt_,  of course. thats a primary feature of the apt-get system
[23:37] <matt_> Dr_willis: thank you.
[23:37] <matt_> Dr_willis: now enough of this terminal talking and cli image downloading and burning. gotta love links and cdrecord though, they are lifesavers
[23:37] <matt_> Dr_willis: thanks, and later.
[23:41] <feierfox> please recomment a pic-viewer
[23:43] <Nyad> gwenview
[23:43] <Nyad> feierfox: gwenview
[23:44] <feierfox> ok, thanks
[23:44] <feierfox> one other in an other channel recommented it too
[23:45] <matt__> Dr_willis: so umm..after trying to boot from the cd...i get the "kubuntu" status bar (blue bar back and forth), and then i get me a "built in shell=ash type help for a list of commands". what is wrong
[23:48] <feierfox> what is the less RAM i could have to use a Desktop in Linux?
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> 6a mb
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> 64
[23:48] <SlimeyPete> you can get by with 64-128MB but you should have 256
[23:48] <matt__> Dr_willis: hey...after i asked you about the shell=ash...did you reply, i had to leave...
[23:48] <NickPresta> feierfox, you probably want a minimum of 256.
[23:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was able to have a pretty snappy xubuntu desktop on a celeron 600 with 192mb ram
[23:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i would definitely recommend at least 256
[23:50] <matt__> so is there a channel for 8.04?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> !hardy
[23:50] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:50] <feierfox> could you recommend a distro with really weak hardware-need?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> feierfox: puppy linux or dsl
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> how weak are you talking?
[23:50] <feierfox> DSL?
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i would say DSL, i've never used puppy linux
[23:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> damn small linux
[23:50] <NickPresta> feierfox, DSL. Anything using Fluxbox/XFCE/some other minimal WM.
[23:50] <Nyad> I changed my xmodmap file. How do I get it to take effect?
[23:51] <feierfox> DSL or Puppy?
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> feierfox: I like puppy better than dsl.
[23:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> feierfox: perhaps it would be easier to ask...  how much ram do you have?
[23:51] <feierfox> thanks / danke !
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> but dsl is a bit smaller. ~50mb. puppy is ~70mb
[23:52] <Nyad> Odd-rationale:   I changed my xmodmap file. How do I get it to take effect?
[23:52] <feierfox> thanks anyway, i will check out puppy!
[23:52] <SlimeyPete> feierfox: also check out Vector
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> Nyad: dunno...
[23:53] <matt__> when trying to kubuntu 8.04 live cd...it takes me straight to a terminal after selecting (try kubuntu) and it says something to the effect of "built in shell=ash type help for a list of commands". any ideas?
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> matt__: did you check the md5sums?
[23:55] <matt__> Odd-rationale: no i didn't...i'm operating soley from a cli, i don't know how to.
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> matt__: check the md5sum of the iso before burning to cd.
[23:56] <matt__> Odd-rationale: right now i'm using links to download the kde4 beta live cd, i'll try it...i'll check the md5 sum if you'll show me how
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> matt__: can I see the link?
[23:56] <matt__> Odd-rationale: *thinks how to copy and paste in terminal without a mouse...
[23:57] <NickPresta> matt__, in a terminal: cat hardy_md5_sum.txt && md5sum hardy_cd.iso
[23:57] <matt__> NickPresta: ok....so where do i get the actuall md5 sum?
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> matt__: I must of gotten lost somewhere... are you on the livecd right now?
[23:58] <matt__> NickPresta: wait..md5sums...
[23:58] <matt__> Odd-rationale: no, i'm on my installed system that is so screwed up.
[23:58] <NickPresta> matt__, yep :)
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> matt__: so on your installed system you only have terminal?
[23:58] <matt__> Odd-rationale: not true, but it's all that works...right now.
[23:58] <bolder> gn8
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> matt__: so the iso file is on the installed system?
[23:59] <matt__> Odd-rationale: umm....yes
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> matt__: try "md5sum /pathtoiso"