| === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson | ||
| === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch | ||
| === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell | ||
| === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch | ||
| === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado | ||
| kiko | oink oink | 18:45 |
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| statik | cause the chickens are involved, but the pigs are committed? | 18:48 |
| Rinchen | quack? | 18:54 |
| cprov | welcome to the launchpad-farm ... | 18:56 |
| gmb | cprov: Is that like the secret cow level in Diablo II? | 18:57 |
| gmb | Thousands of axe-wielding kikos running amok... | 18:58 |
| bigjools | moo | 18:58 |
| thumper | garrrhh | 18:58 |
| bigjools | I mean me | 18:58 |
| bigjools | the mating call of the lesser spotted thumper | 18:58 |
| gmb | If everyone answers "moo" to the roll call, hilarity may or may not ensue. | 18:58 |
| bigjools | gmb: +1 :) | 18:58 |
| Rinchen | matsubara, are you also covering mrevell's special topic or just his normal 2? | 18:59 |
| matsubara | Rinchen, all 3 | 18:59 |
| Rinchen | matsubara, great thanks | 18:59 |
| * Rinchen checks the clock | 18:59 | |
| * Rinchen pokes MootBot. | 18:59 | |
| cprov | ... and it reminds me that we do have a real pony. | 18:59 |
| Rinchen | green flag! | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | #startmeeting | 19:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 20:00. The chair is Rinchen. | 19:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development. | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Roll Call | 19:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Roll Call | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | moo | 19:00 |
| gmb | moo | 19:00 |
| adeuring | me | 19:00 |
| statik | me | 19:00 |
| bigjools | moo | 19:00 |
| matsubara | moo | 19:00 |
| sinzu1 | me | 19:00 |
| gmb | *sigh* | 19:00 |
| mars | moo | 19:00 |
| cprov | me | 19:00 |
| === sinzu1 is now known as sinzui | ||
| salgado | me | 19:00 |
| sinzui | me | 19:00 |
| barry | me ow! | 19:00 |
| kiko | me | 19:01 |
| EdwinGrubbs | me | 19:01 |
| allenap | me | 19:01 |
| BjornT_ | me | 19:01 |
| jtv | me | 19:01 |
| herb | me | 19:01 |
| sinzui | me | 19:01 |
| thumper | moo | 19:01 |
| bac | me | 19:01 |
| Rinchen | morning thumper | 19:01 |
| leonardr | me | 19:01 |
| schwuk | me | 19:01 |
| flacoste | me | 19:01 |
| Rinchen | apologies from mpt and mrevell for today | 19:02 |
| danilos | me | 19:02 |
| Rinchen | team leads...your teams here? | 19:02 |
| Rinchen | small list of moos for today | 19:02 |
| * flacoste didn't get the joke | 19:03 | |
| thumper | abentley: ping | 19:03 |
| statik | Rinchen: all here | 19:03 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: all here | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, ping for roll call | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | ok, onward then... | 19:03 |
| cprov | muharem is not here, but he will come, I think. | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Agenda | 19:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Agenda | 19:03 |
| BjornT_ | intellectronica is missing. he was around 10 minutes ago (aware of the meeting), so he should be here shortly | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Next meeting | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Bug tags | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Operations report (mthaddon/herb) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * DBA report (stub) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * New packages required (salgado) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | * Doc Team report (mrevell | 19:04 |
| mthaddon | me | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Ubuntu Open Week sessions requested by Jorge (mrevell) | 19:04 |
| abentley | me | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Blockers | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Next meeting | 19:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Next meeting | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | As you may recall, the team leads were charged with finding a more interesting time. | 19:04 |
| intellectronica | me got stuck in the elevator. zorry! | 19:04 |
| bigjools | best excuse ever? :) | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | We are probably going to attempt a test of this next week to see how well it works. Stay tuned. | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | For next week, same time, same channel again. | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | [AGREED] same time, same channel again | 19:05 |
| MootBot | AGREED received: same time, same channel again | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | none | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | amazing | 19:06 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Oops report (Matsubara) | 19:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Oops report (Matsubara) | 19:06 |
| matsubara | Today's oops report is about bugs 218625, 218384, 218783, 125068, 183737 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218625 | 19:06 |
| matsubara | barry is already on #218625. | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 218384 in malone "OOPS processing Mantis bugwatches" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218384 | 19:06 |
| matsubara | The others are checkwatches bugs. BjornT already targeted them to 1.2.5 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 218783 in malone "OOPS parsing CSV for mantis bugtrackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218783 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125068 in malone "Bugzilla bug watch updater crashes on POSTs that return a HTTP error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125068 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 183737 in malone "Look for error message when fetching bug status from SourceForge, e.g. when a bug is private" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183737 | 19:06 |
| matsubara | some of the checkwatches ones are oldies | 19:07 |
| gmb | I would really like to stomp all over bug 183737. | 19:07 |
| matsubara | which I just included the OOPS id to them | 19:07 |
| gmb | Because it annoys the hell out of me. | 19:07 |
| matsubara | since they were filed when checkwatches didn't have OOPS reporting | 19:07 |
| Rinchen | gmb, will BjornT_ let you out of your cage to take that one? | 19:08 |
| matsubara | gmb, well, they're targeted to 1.2.5. I'm sure you can arrange with BjornT_ to take those if you like | 19:08 |
| gmb | I'd be happy to. | 19:08 |
| matsubara | but no hurry to fix them for this cycle. | 19:08 |
| matsubara | anyway, Rinchen that's it from me. | 19:08 |
| matsubara | thanks all | 19:09 |
| Rinchen | hmm no owners for the others? | 19:09 |
| Rinchen | or gmb to work this weekend? :-) | 19:09 |
| gmb | Oi! | 19:09 |
| Rinchen | right then. | 19:09 |
| matsubara | Rinchen, not yet, but I've chatted with Bjorn and since they're targeted to 1.2.5 already, it's not like they're going out of radar | 19:09 |
| gmb | Let me get the cool Trac stuff I'm doing finished :) | 19:09 |
| BjornT_ | Rinchen: they are targeted to 1.2.5. let's think about how's going to fix it later. | 19:10 |
| intellectronica | gmb: i'm quite busy, but if you need to talk to me and i'll take some off you | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | heh, ok. thanks. | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 19:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | [LINK] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/206654 | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | This is the memory issue. flacoste, SteveA. Any updated status? | 19:10 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/206654 | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | [LINK] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/118625 | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | thumper, mthaddon - any updated status on this? Is this really critical? | 19:10 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/118625 | 19:10 |
| kiko | Rinchen, he gave us some in the call today | 19:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:10 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: it's all in the bug report | 19:10 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, which one? | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | flacoste, ok, does this still need to remain critical? | 19:10 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, codebrowse | 19:11 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: well, we still have a production issue | 19:11 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, yes | 19:11 |
| kiko | yeah | 19:11 |
| thumper | Rinchen: mwhudson is looking into it | 19:11 |
| Rinchen | ok. I'm going to keep pestering you guys about critical bugs while we have them. | 19:11 |
| thumper | Rinchen: abentley has also been looking at the guts of loggerhead too | 19:11 |
| Rinchen | I understand the memory issue is an elusive one. | 19:11 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, the update on codebrowse is that we have CP-ed FS layout change and will setup webstats so we can correlate traffic with memory spikes | 19:11 |
| thumper | as far as really critical? | 19:11 |
| thumper | annoying, sure, critical, not sure | 19:12 |
| mthaddon | thumper, I'd consider it critical as the service intermittently goes down (4 times in a day, a few days ago) | 19:12 |
| thumper | ok, I'll go with that | 19:12 |
| Rinchen | thumper, I'd recommend having a look at our critical policy to compare the situation against the samples and see if you have justification to leave it, or lower it. | 19:12 |
| Rinchen | it sounds like it's critical though due to a service interruption. | 19:13 |
| * thumper nods | 19:13 | |
| Rinchen | ok, thanks. I've got enough for today. :-) | 19:13 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Bug tags | 19:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Bug tags | 19:13 |
| Rinchen | none proposed | 19:13 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Operations report (mthaddon/herb) | 19:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Operations report (mthaddon/herb) | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | 5 Cherry Picks so far since last meeting, and more in progress currently | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | Edge update broke over the weekend - would like to discuss how to avoid this in the future (improve make check and I sent an email to the list with proposal for edge update procedure change) | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | Staging authserver currently broken - DB user | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | Staging codehosting scripts and supermirror rewrite map currently broken as well | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | What's the status on the spam management situation - | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/29988, for example | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | that's it from me (except there are some things to discuss there) | 19:14 |
| statik | mthaddon: I liked your idea about changing the edge rollout to try on one server first | 19:14 |
| mthaddon | thx statik - anyone else have any feelings on that? | 19:15 |
| Rinchen | I haven't gotten to the email yet mthaddon. Busy day today :-( | 19:15 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, do you require any assistance on the authserver and other issues? | 19:15 |
| Rinchen | or do you have enough help as is? | 19:16 |
| kiko | me neither, damnit | 19:16 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, that email was a few days ago (about edge updates) | 19:16 |
| thumper | I think we have a patch for the authserver | 19:16 |
| sinzui | mthaddon: we need to know if staging, bazaar-staging, or both run authserver | 19:17 |
| statik | kiko: the idea was rolling the upgrade, just trying one edge app server first, and if that one doesn't come up, don't update the others | 19:17 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, was in reply to sinzui's email - sent Monday | 19:17 |
| Rinchen | kiko, do you have cycle or two to deal with the question link above? | 19:17 |
| Rinchen | i.e. minute or two or 5 or 30 | 19:17 |
| mthaddon | sinzui, not sure I understand the question | 19:17 |
| thumper | sinzui, mthaddon: later | 19:17 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, hmm I do not recall seeing that. I'll copy a todo to review it. | 19:17 |
| kiko | Rinchen, mthaddon: we have no plan for spam management right now. none. | 19:18 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, I'm more interested in how we're planning to approach the spam stuff procedurally - there was some discussion about being able to mark stuff as hidden - not sure if we got further than that | 19:18 |
| kiko | Rinchen, mthaddon: unfortunately, unless this becomes a really big problem, it doesn't look like we can fit one in before july | 19:18 |
| Rinchen | kiko, maybe we should add that to our "list" which we're constructing. | 19:18 |
| kiko | to fix this properly we're going to have to think about standing/referees, hiding content, etc | 19:18 |
| mthaddon | kiko, define "really big problem" - the main problem with it at the moment is that we spend a lot of time manually fixing it, and we don't know how big of a problem it is, as we rely on users to alert us to spam | 19:19 |
| statik | I kind of like having users flag things as spam | 19:20 |
| kiko | mthaddon, really big project to provide a fix which puts us in an acceptable place | 19:20 |
| mthaddon | yeah, I just don't like having to deal with it manually :) | 19:20 |
| BjornT_ | kiko, mthaddon: it wouldn't be too hard to make it possible to hide a comment in the ui. would that help? | 19:20 |
| kiko | BjornT_, it's not just bugcomment spam, is it? | 19:20 |
| mthaddon | BjornT_, that'd be a start | 19:20 |
| mthaddon | kiko, I understand it's a big project, but it's kind of a basic feature... | 19:20 |
| barry | statik: it would be cool if there were a "this is spam" button and we had one page to look at all things marked as spam. it could be abused, but you can deal with that i think | 19:21 |
| BjornT_ | kiko: well, not only, but i think a large part of it is. and that's one case where mthaddon needs to issue sql queries to fix it. | 19:21 |
| mthaddon | kiko, in that we're *always* going to have spam to deal with... | 19:21 |
| kiko | mthaddon, you're sounding like an end-user now :) this isn't in 2.0 | 19:21 |
| Rinchen | kiko, let's add this to the list for August shall we? | 19:21 |
| kiko | yes, already there | 19:22 |
| Rinchen | we'll see about a sprint to explore the results. | 19:22 |
| Rinchen | ok, good enough for me, thanks | 19:22 |
| mthaddon | ok, so post 2.0? fair enough | 19:22 |
| kiko | mthaddon, I hate this as much as you do. but this isn't on anybody's plate right now, and putting it on somebody's is going to make us really impopular | 19:23 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, thumper - I'd like to know how codehosting and the supermirror (and authserver) broke. Let me know offline please at your leisure. | 19:23 |
| thumper | Rinchen: ack | 19:23 |
| kiko | not to mention unpopular | 19:23 |
| Rinchen | thanks | 19:23 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, sent an email to the list | 19:23 |
| Rinchen | hmmm | 19:23 |
| Rinchen | there is that email thing again... | 19:23 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] DBA report (stub) | 19:24 |
| MootBot | New Topic: DBA report (stub) | 19:24 |
| Rinchen | aww | 19:24 |
| Rinchen | *whew* | 19:24 |
| Rinchen | stub be missing again | 19:24 |
| Rinchen | [ACTION] Joey to email stub to send out DBA report. | 19:24 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Joey to email stub to send out DBA report. | 19:24 |
| intellectronica | are db reviews happening? i haven't seen anything today yet | 19:24 |
| kiko | me neither | 19:25 |
| Rinchen | it was a public holiday in Thailand until this morning | 19:25 |
| Rinchen | so it's possible it has been delayed a day | 19:25 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 19:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 19:25 |
| Rinchen | Hi! Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? | 19:26 |
| Rinchen | Hardy is still preoccupying IS's time these days | 19:26 |
| * bigjools does the regular wave to Rinchen | 19:26 | |
| statik | no, but I filed an RT the other day that was closed out in a matter of hours. Go IS team! | 19:26 |
| Rinchen | bigjools, yeah, I've commented and poke on the IS channel about that one. It's not getting much traction. | 19:27 |
| Rinchen | bigjools, you might send an email to elmo | 19:27 |
| bigjools | ok | 19:27 |
| Rinchen | bigjools, from and admin point of view, it's marked very high, has passed it's due date, and has been poked to near death on IS | 19:27 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] New packages required (salgado) | 19:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: New packages required (salgado) | 19:28 |
| salgado | if any of the branches you're working on right now depends on any library which is not part of the launchpad-dependencies package, come talk to me ASAP. | 19:28 |
| kiko | bigjools, I'd actually have a phone call -- email doesn't work | 19:28 |
| Rinchen | (good point) | 19:28 |
| bigjools | yeah I thought that I read the comment | 19:29 |
| bigjools | I will make realtime contact | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | anything for salgado? | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | ok, time for the matsubara show | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] A top user-affecting issue - Diogo | 19:29 |
| MootBot | New Topic: A top user-affecting issue - Diogo | 19:29 |
| matsubara | (proxying for MattR) The main user-affecting issue this week has been the incorrect link in mailing list notification emails, related to bug 199168. Barry and Curtis are onto it. We've had some complaints on irc and a couple of queries by email. It appears I received a duplicate notification about the Launchpad Documentation team's ML. Is that related to this problem or just coincidental? | 19:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199168 in launchpad "New mailing list notification has wrong subscription url" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199168 | 19:29 |
| barry | matsubara: it's kind of all related i think | 19:30 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Doc Team report - Diogo | 19:30 |
| barry | matsubara: as soon as we cherry pick that last rev and run fix.py i think we should be back to normal | 19:30 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Doc Team report - Diogo | 19:30 |
| matsubara | right, thanks barry. if the dupe notifications keep coming after the CP I'll file a bug :-) | 19:31 |
| barry | matsubara: absolutely! | 19:31 |
| matsubara | his week I've been mostly working on Bazaar. However, Martin Pool and Joey have agreed to allow me to suspend my Bazaar work, temporarily, in order to focus on Launchpad work. It's likely I'll take up Bazaar work again after July. | 19:31 |
| matsubara | I've also published some new tour drafts to the list. Thanks for the comments so far! | 19:31 |
| matsubara | I'm working on a page to explain +junk branches - thanks Tim for your input. | 19:31 |
| matsubara | I'll be sending out a "Coming Changes" style of notification tomorrow highlighting the change in name for bug contacts to bug supervisor. | 19:31 |
| matsubara | If you have anything you know we need to change in the documentation for 1.2.4, and we haven't already spoken, please email me so I can plan for the changes. | 19:31 |
| Rinchen | you do a great mrevell there matsubara | 19:31 |
| kiko | barry, hasn't it been CPd yet? | 19:32 |
| kiko | heh | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | Anything for Matt Matsubara on the doc team? :-) | 19:32 |
| kiko | I'm waiting for the +junk doc! | 19:32 |
| danilos | wasn't that Diogo Revell? | 19:32 |
| barry | kiko: there were two. i don't think the second one is done ripening yet | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | kiko, it should have arrived to you today. | 19:32 |
| * barry looks to mthaddon and herb | 19:32 | |
| danilos | (oh my, they got married!) | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | :-) | 19:33 |
| mthaddon | please send gifts as usual... | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | right then.... | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Open Week sessions requested by Jorge - Diogo | 19:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Ubuntu Open Week sessions requested by Jorge - Diogo | 19:33 |
| matsubara | I know we're all busy but Jorge has asked me to remind you that they'd love to have lots of Launchpad sessions in Ubuntu Open Week. | 19:33 |
| matsubara | cprov's going his PPA intro session. If anyone else wants to run a session introducing new Ubuntu community people to the joys of Launchpad, then please ping/mail Jorge and let me know too. | 19:33 |
| matsubara | The schedule for UOW is here: | 19:33 |
| matsubara | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | thanks matsubara for proxying mrevell | 19:33 |
| kiko | yeah, jorge's asked me to do one | 19:33 |
| matsubara | np Rinchen | 19:34 |
| Rinchen | well, another good day to make up for that 1.5 hour meeting we had two weeks ago... | 19:34 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Blockers | 19:34 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Blockers | 19:34 |
| Rinchen | Releases Team: Eagerly awaiting Carlos' structural navigation branch. | 19:34 |
| flacoste | Foundations: not blocked | 19:34 |
| BjornT_ | Bugs: not blocked | 19:35 |
| statik | lpcomm: not blocked | 19:35 |
| schwuk | hwdb: not blocked | 19:35 |
| danilos | Translations: not blocked | 19:35 |
| kiko | BjornT_, you are blocked, though. debbugs setup, etc | 19:35 |
| thumper | Code: not blocked | 19:35 |
| kiko | you're just SAYING not blocked! | 19:35 |
| danilos | kiko: we're all developers, we SHOULD develop scripts to avoid repetitive tasks | 19:35 |
| bigjools | Soyuz: the usual RT | 19:35 |
| BjornT_ | kiko: well, i'm not blocked, if i set it up locally, am i? | 19:35 |
| kiko | BjornT_, you will be when you need to rsync it | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] adhoc question ... meeting agenda | 19:36 |
| MootBot | New Topic: adhoc question ... meeting agenda | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | surprise skill test | 19:36 |
| kiko | but whatever -- I was just pointing out that this section doesn't really serve much purpose if everybody always says they aren't blocked but in fact are | 19:36 |
| kiko | I have some skills | 19:36 |
| thumper | ? | 19:36 |
| gmb | I'd hope we all do... | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | Do any of you have any suggestions for changing the meeting agenda to be more useful? | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | We've been operating under this format for some time with only minor changes for the last 6+ months | 19:37 |
| statik | I find the operations and DBA reports to be very useful | 19:37 |
| BjornT_ | kiko: i might be blocked in the future, depending on how responsive the is team is. | 19:37 |
| kiko | I'd drop blockers as I don't think people use it very correctly | 19:37 |
| Rinchen | are there areas you find less value to and others you find more? Should a topic be added or removed? | 19:37 |
| kiko | +1 statik | 19:37 |
| statik | kiko: it's true that I feel guilty saying blocked and do everything I can to not have to say it | 19:37 |
| gmb | kiko: What's the definition of blocked in this context? | 19:37 |
| kiko | gmb, that's my point. it can be anything. | 19:38 |
| thumper | I don't think blocked is helpful | 19:38 |
| gmb | For example, I'm blocked on a DB patch landing before I can land at least three of my branches, but I don't see that as being blocked because I know it'll clear next week. | 19:38 |
| danilos | kiko: agreed, let's ask people to *ask* for agenda items if they are blocked | 19:38 |
| thumper | team leads should resolve things like this as they happen | 19:38 |
| kiko | gmb, agreed | 19:38 |
| thumper | (if they can) | 19:38 |
| gmb | danilos: +1 | 19:38 |
| Rinchen | thumper, +1 | 19:38 |
| kiko | thumper, danilos: yeah, good point | 19:38 |
| statik | yeah, we do try to do the blocked thing in the daily standups | 19:38 |
| thumper | statik: agreed | 19:39 |
| Rinchen | ok so it sounds like we're agreeing to drop the blockers section and require folks to add topic to unblock | 19:39 |
| thumper | statik: I mean we all should | 19:39 |
| Rinchen | [AGREED] drop the blockers section and require folks to add topic to unblock | 19:39 |
| MootBot | AGREED received: drop the blockers section and require folks to add topic to unblock | 19:39 |
| Rinchen | [ACTION] Joey to email team about this change. | 19:39 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Joey to email team about this change. | 19:39 |
| kiko | cool | 19:39 |
| Rinchen | what else? | 19:39 |
| statik | if people do have a bigger block I'd be very interested in discussing it in this forum to see if we have any clever ideas for getting past it | 19:40 |
| Rinchen | absolutely | 19:40 |
| kiko | a bigger block? meaning something really complicated? | 19:40 |
| Rinchen | is there any section(s) we're missing today? or information that you'd like to have weekly? | 19:40 |
| statik | kiko: something that is a problem that didn't get resolved in the daily standups, so a problem that lasts until the meeting I guess | 19:41 |
| kiko | not that I can recall | 19:41 |
| kiko | the DBA report? :) | 19:41 |
| danilos | we've moved a lot of interesting weekly stuff to calendar already, so I'd say no | 19:41 |
| statik | I'd be interested in seeing the top user-affecting issue be expanded to include a quick overview of an interesting project and looking at how they use launchpad | 19:42 |
| Rinchen | most of the items I'd expect to see in a weekly meeting are operationally focused... rts, LOSAs, DBA, documentation maybe....etc | 19:42 |
| statik | perhaps every 2 weeks, or once a month | 19:42 |
| Rinchen | interesting idea statik.. matsubara would kindly pass that on to mrevell? | 19:42 |
| matsubara | Rinchen, sure | 19:43 |
| Rinchen | the other topic which might be of some interesting is UI but I'd rather not discuss that at the moment. | 19:43 |
| Rinchen | ok, thanks for your input all. | 19:43 |
| kiko | toda! | 19:43 |
| Rinchen | Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs. | 19:43 |
| Rinchen | #endmeeting | 19:44 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 20:44. | 19:44 |
| statik | toda raba | 19:44 |
| abentley | Thankx | 19:44 |
| thumper | Rinchen: thanks | 19:44 |
| danilos | how does the MootBot know the exact time here? ;) | 19:44 |
| kiko | in serbia? | 19:45 |
| Rinchen | netherlands | 19:45 |
| Rinchen | which is odd cuz it's only +1 there | 19:45 |
| danilos | Rinchen: all of Europe should be on +2 during summer, afaik | 19:45 |
| intellectronica | but summer time | 19:45 |
| Rinchen | ah right | 19:46 |
| Rinchen | there we go | 19:46 |
| danilos | (except Greece, Bulgaria, UK, Turkey) | 19:46 |
| intellectronica | gee danilos, you're like a timezone geek :P | 19:46 |
| * intellectronica runs away | 19:46 | |
| danilos | hehe, nobody can stay after making fun of me! :) | 19:47 |
| BjornT_ | danilos: not to mention a bunch of other european countries that are +3.... | 19:47 |
| danilos | BjornT_: those don't count :P | 19:47 |
| danilos | BjornT_: they are all Soviet Union ;) | 19:48 |
| Rinchen | da comrade daniloski | 19:49 |
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