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Rinchenbarry, done.00:03
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ograheya ... 01:45
jammcqhey all01:45
jammcqanybody know if there's a way to migrate sourceforge mailing lists into launchpad?01:45
mwhudsoni remember reading something about that :)01:49
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cody-somervilleThe link I got in the new mailing list available team xyz was: https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~cody-somerville/+editemails02:36
cody-somervilleObviously that isn't correct :)02:36
Fujitsucody-somerville: Rinchen sent an email to launchpad-users about that a couple of hours back.02:41
ffmI recived an odd email from the lp doc team. 03:29
ffmIt gave me a       https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~ffm/+editemails link.03:29
LaserJockffm: know thing, an email was sent to launchpad-users about it03:33
ffmLaserJock: Ok....03:34
lifelesswin 2003:34
Hobbseei'm sure it would be bad form to answer an email with "what, again?  You said this a few weeks ago".04:50
Hobbseei'm sure i really shouldn't do it.04:50
RAOFNah; people _love_ to be called absent minded :)04:53
jmlHobbsee: it would be bad form to send it to launchpad-users, I think :)05:00
jmlHobbsee: but I'm sure Joey wouldn't mind at all.05:01
Hobbseejml: right.05:01
emgentmorning06:36
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carlosmorning08:18
Hobbseeare we sure that the launchpad mailing lists stuff actually works as intended?08:52
FujitsuHobbsee: What do you mean?08:56
HobbseeFujitsu: that it doesn't mass-spam members of teams, or something08:57
FujitsuIsn't it meant to?08:57
Hobbseethat all stuff actually goes to the mailing lists, rather than everywhere08:57
Hobbseecorrect.  i'm asking if it works as it's meant to work, or still has bugs.08:57
mptGoooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!08:58
Hobbseeheya mpt!08:58
Fujitsu*Evening* mpt.08:59
HobbseeFujitsu: i guess it's kinda sad, as i'm effectively asking if launchpad works like it's advertised to, or whether it will blow up.08:59
HobbseeFujitsu: seeing as i'll get lynched if it does (working with big teams here)08:59
FujitsuIf you create a mailing list, everyone will be spammed with the creation message.08:59
FujitsuI believe that's all they'll get if they don't subscribe.09:00
HobbseeFujitsu: right.09:00
HobbseeFujitsu: yeah, mailing list was done ages ago09:00
jameshHobbsee: if you have questions, barry would be the one to ask09:12
jameshafter all, he is Mr. Mailman09:12
Hobbseejamesh: i just want to know that it works, and doesn't fall over and mass spam everyone, even though it's been told to use the mailing list to send anything.09:13
jameshHobbsee: I haven't set up any mailing lists so don't know09:15
Hobbseejamesh: right09:15
jameshI believe the list creation has to be approved, but don't know what happens after that09:15
Hobbseejamesh: if it doesn't all work, i'll send the lynch mob to barry-away.09:15
Hobbseeyeah, ti does.09:15
jameshthe developers of that bit of LP are on American time09:15
Hobbseejamesh: no great problem.09:17
Hobbseejamesh: i'm wary of anything that possibly generates mass-spam to mass-people, if you couldn't tell09:17
seb128hi09:17
seb128what is the standard way to report spam on a launchpad bug?09:18
jameshHobbsee: guess that's something to include on help.launchpad.net09:18
seb128the current comment on bug #186118 for example09:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186118 in gnome-desktop "gnome-about crashed with KeyError in make_info_label()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186118 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)09:18
jameshseb128: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad09:18
Hobbseeseb128: questions, in the /topic09:18
seb128Hobbsee: that's not a question09:19
seb128jamesh: thanks09:19
Hobbseeseb128: i realise that.  what i meant was "you want the section marked "questions" in the /topic"09:20
seb128Hobbsee: ah, ok ;-)09:20
Hobbseewhich gives you the URL that jamesh gave09:20
seb128gotcha09:20
seb128thanks09:20
Hobbsee:)09:21
Hobbseeseb128: didn't you know?  There shall be NO QUESTIONS asked in here.  NONE!09:21
Hobbsee:P09:21
seb128EDONTCARE09:21
seb128:-)09:21
Hobbseeawww09:21
* Hobbsee is sure there's a monty python reference in there09:21
Hobbseeah yes.  NO SINGING.09:21
jameshI wonder what the user expected twitter to do with the bug report?09:22
jameshit looks like an action initiated by the user rather than Twitter spamming us09:23
Hobbseefrom the other bug there, it looks like he has no idea what he's doing anyway09:28
seb128Hobbsee: want to open the launchpad ticket for me about that? ;-)09:29
Hobbseeseb128: not really.09:30
Hobbseeseb128: you can use mail for it though09:30
seb128ok, I think I just don't care enough and will ignore it09:30
Hobbseeoh, wait, it's a question09:30
* Hobbsee waits for it to load09:30
Hobbseeseb128: done09:31
seb128Hobbsee: thanks09:31
* seb128 hugs Hobbsee09:31
* Hobbsee hugs seb12809:31
Hobbseeapparently i'm not completely lazy09:31
FujitsuLaunchpad is synonymous with waiting.09:31
jameshMay you never find ubuntu on your shoe09:32
Hobbseehm?09:32
Fujitsu... interesting.09:32
jameshhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/14/linux_manual/page2.html09:32
FujitsuIs PostgreSQL really that hard to pronounce?09:33
\shFujitsu, sometimes ;)09:37
Hobbseei wish the invite mails for the teams actually worked, rather than being split across two lines09:47
* Hobbsee manually constructs the URL09:47
nandbarry-away: some feedback on edge: setting the ML as contact address of the team fails (OOPS-838EB38)10:52
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nandbarry-away: and an still empty (http://lists.launchpad.net/brainstorm-dev/) ML archive after having sent a test yesterday10:57
stgrabernand: I never received that test :)11:03
ubotuNew bug: #218580 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 want remove j2re1.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21858011:16
nandbarry-away, stgraber: so something is definitely wrong :)11:17
Fujitsunand: Sure you sent it from the right address?11:24
nandFujitsu: brainstorm-dev@lists.launchpad.net, right?11:35
Fujitsunand: *From*, not to.11:36
nandFujitsu: I'm subscribed using my "Preferred address", from which I sent the mail.11:38
nandI give a try by explicitely setting my email adress instead of the "preferred" one.11:38
nandstgraber: second test sent11:39
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edemkrimeahello12:13
barrynand: have you submitted a bug report on that yet?12:13
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andrea-bshi, can I use the Launchpad theme for a web page outside launchpad.net?13:04
mptandrea-bs, what kind of Web page?13:05
nandbarry: not yet. Shall I make two separate ones (setting ML as contact address fails, and send a mail to the ML fails)?13:08
andrea-bsmpt: it's a list similar to +karma to list some small notices13:09
barrynand: yes, though i think they are the same problem, cascaded from the config bug13:09
barrynand: but just in case it'll be better to track them separately13:09
barrynand: thanks!13:09
mptandrea-bs, I couldn't give you an answer off-hand, I suggest mailing the launchpad-users mailing list <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users> and I'll find someone to reply13:12
andrea-bsmpt: ok, thanks13:12
nandbarry: here you are: bug 218625, bug 21862813:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21862513:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21862813:19
barrynand: thanks.  i'll be afk for a bit now, but will be working on this today13:21
ubotuNew bug: #218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21862513:21
ubotuNew bug: #218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21862813:25
nandbarry: cool, thanks!13:26
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ubotuNew bug: #218647 in launchpad "Confirmation message appear in other browser tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21864714:31
ubotuNew bug: #218682 in launchpad "Change "new mailing list" notification text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21868215:35
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elmargolDoes the ppa support backports?16:12
ubotuNew bug: #218706 in launchpad "Template processor forces a newline at the end of the output" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21870616:15
Hobbseeelmargol: not currently16:27
lagacan someone reactivate my signature for my code of conduct? https://launchpad.net/~laga/+codesofconduct16:32
rkerrany tips for creating a proper ssh key on windows?16:33
Hobbseelaga: would'nt you need to reactivate it yourself, or sign it again?16:34
Hobbseeoh wait, LP admin.16:34
lagayup :)16:34
intellectronicarkerr: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ used to be pretty good last time i tried16:34
Hobbseelaga: use the questions: link in the topic, but it's usually quicker just to resign and upload teh changed one16:35
intellectronicamaybe there's something better these days, i haven't done windows in quite a while16:35
lagaah. ok, i'll resign it. thanks Hobbsee 16:35
* Hobbsee has 2 invalid ones, and one valid one16:35
lagaHobbsee: did you deactivate it two times? ;)16:35
rkerrintellectronica: yeah, i can never get launchpad to accept the keys putty makes16:35
Hobbseelaga: yeah16:35
Hobbseelaga: well, 2 different ones, once each time16:35
intellectronicarkerr: another option is to install cygwin and use normal openssh16:36
intellectronicarkerr: really? what is the problem?16:36
rkerrintellectronica: i paste the contents of the public key and launchpad says it's invalid16:36
lagawget really doesn't like downloading from laucnhpad w/o --no-check-certificate16:36
intellectronicarkerr: where do you get the key from? what does it look like? are you sure that you're using the right thing?16:37
intellectronicarkerr: b.t.w the new ubuntu has a fantastic windows installer. it's easier than ever before to get yourself started ;)16:38
rkerrintellectronica: well i did have it all setup in linux but i'm on a borrowed laptop at the moment16:38
intellectronicarkerr: right, which is why you need to register a new ssh key...16:38
rkerrintellectronica: i'm pasting whatever puttygen saves as the public key. but it looks nothing like what openssh generates for a public key16:39
intellectronicarkerr: oh, what does it look like, then?16:39
rkerrit's got all the ---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- stuff16:39
rkerri think openssh saves a 1-liner16:40
rkerrhm, maybe i need to take it from the putty UI instead of what it saves to the file16:40
intellectronicarkerr: see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26705 i think it may be the same problem you're experiencing16:41
rkerrya there we goes16:41
rkerrintellectronica: that's exactly it16:41
intellectronicacool16:41
intellectronicarkerr: does the explanation mean anything to you? i don't have a windows machine here to try...16:41
rkerrintellectronica: yeah, it's the same as what i just did16:42
intellectronicaand it still doesn't work?16:42
rkerrintellectronica: _does_ :)16:42
intellectronicagreat!16:42
intellectronicalaunchpad answers ftw :)16:43
rkerraw, i can't +1 the answer16:43
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ubotuNew bug: #218753 in launchpad "GeoIP returns RS for Serbia which is the correct new iso code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21875318:06
VadiWhy do some links in launchpad help point to edge.launchpad.net? Is that proper?18:21
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statikVadi: it's because we do beta-testing on edge.launchpad.net18:23
statikVadi: if you are not in the beta testers team, you should not be redirected to edge18:23
statikbut, if people paste URLs, sometimes those URLs point to edge18:23
statikI often forget to edit my urls before pasting them18:23
Vadistatik: this is in official documentation though. Should I edit the link to point to the normal launchpad then?18:24
statikVadi: yes, probably. where is it, I can confirm for you real quick18:24
Vadihttps://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair18:24
statikVadi: and thanks for catching it!18:24
VadiStep 2: Visit  your SSH keys page.18:24
statikVadi: yep, that should not have edge in it18:25
VadiOkay thanks, I fixed the link18:27
statikVadi: you rock, thanks for the help18:28
Vadinp :)18:28
MiserySalinHi..... I wanted to know how I can register or setup a distribution in launchpad. I wanted to add "Arch Linux" ... I'm not a developer of Arch.18:39
MiserySalinJust to mark "this bugs affect Arch Linux, too" ... like with Gentoo in Launchpad18:40
ubotuNew bug: #218767 in launchpad "update-cve script commits too often" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21876718:41
statikMiserySalin: read this, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/22 then you can file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad18:47
MiserySalinThanks18:48
Rinchen>>> Meeting time in #launchpad-meeting19:00
ubotuNew bug: #218783 in malone "OOPS parsing CSV for mantis bugtrackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21878319:01
kikojavastatik: this thing is cool19:34
kikojavabut it requires a kinda big window!19:34
statikkikojava: yeah, we used it at barcamp19:34
kikojavait's a bit disturbing in a way19:34
kikojavatyping into a browser page.19:34
* rockstar_ wonders about XSS vulnerabilities19:36
rockstar_kikojava, Could I do <script>alert('XSS');</script> and you end up seeing it?19:37
rockstar_Er, seeing the messagebox19:37
kikojavano, I doubt this renders using JS via Java19:37
kikorockstar_, it's just a java applet 19:40
kikojava.freenode.net19:40
rockstar_I've seen some pretty shizzy java applets.  Just making sure this ain't one of them.19:41
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Rinchenchanged the next mtg time19:49
statikrockstar_: welcome aboard20:24
rockstar_statik, thanks!  I'm overly excited for the new gig.20:26
rockstar_Monday can't seem to come soon enough.20:26
statikrockstar_: just watch out for that Rinchen dude20:27
RinchenI heard that.20:27
* Rinchen laughs.20:27
statik:)20:27
Rinchenstatik, he's coming to my tortur....er.... house on Monday 20:28
statikawesome. induction into the launchpad code base is like a rollercoaster ride, it's awesome that you can do it in person20:29
* rockstar_ makes sure to leave something besides breadcrumbs, in case Rinchen wants me to clean the over20:29
rockstar_s/over/oven20:29
Rinchenclearly statik, rockstar_ doesn't know about my evening job.20:30
* rockstar_ yelps20:30
Rinchen*evil laughter*20:30
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statikhey, this is a neat launchpad project http://launchpad.net/rescuetime-linux-uploader20:31
Rinchenman statik, I want your job :-)20:31
statikRinchen: working on launchpad is like the best job i've ever had20:33
Rinchenstatik, I'm going to signup for that. I think that could be fun20:33
statikI still want to spend a few months as a tow truck driver when I grow up20:33
kikostatik, that's got to have privacy issues!20:34
statikkiko: it does, and also has whitelists, and open source (auditable) clients, and i gave up on privacy anyway20:34
statiki just want to be more efficient20:34
statikthe thing that was amazing to me about this project was that it is a reverse engineering project, and they started using launchpad, and the company links to them all over the place20:35
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ubotuNew bug: #218923 in launchpad "XMLRPCRunner should be more robust about mailing list exceptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21892323:31

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