[00:03] <Rinchen> barry, done.
[01:45] <ogra> heya ... 
[01:45] <jammcq> hey all
[01:45] <jammcq> anybody know if there's a way to migrate sourceforge mailing lists into launchpad?
[01:49] <mwhudson> i remember reading something about that :)
[02:36] <cody-somerville> The link I got in the new mailing list available team xyz was: https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~cody-somerville/+editemails
[02:36] <cody-somerville> Obviously that isn't correct :)
[02:41] <Fujitsu> cody-somerville: Rinchen sent an email to launchpad-users about that a couple of hours back.
[03:29] <ffm> I recived an odd email from the lp doc team. 
[03:29] <ffm> It gave me a       https://xmlrpc.lp.internal/~ffm/+editemails link.
[03:33] <LaserJock> ffm: know thing, an email was sent to launchpad-users about it
[03:34] <ffm> LaserJock: Ok....
[03:34] <lifeless> win 20
[04:50] <Hobbsee> i'm sure it would be bad form to answer an email with "what, again?  You said this a few weeks ago".
[04:50] <Hobbsee> i'm sure i really shouldn't do it.
[04:53] <RAOF> Nah; people _love_ to be called absent minded :)
[05:00] <jml> Hobbsee: it would be bad form to send it to launchpad-users, I think :)
[05:01] <jml> Hobbsee: but I'm sure Joey wouldn't mind at all.
[05:01] <Hobbsee> jml: right.
[06:36] <emgent> morning
[08:18] <carlos> morning
[08:52] <Hobbsee> are we sure that the launchpad mailing lists stuff actually works as intended?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: What do you mean?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: that it doesn't mass-spam members of teams, or something
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Isn't it meant to?
[08:57] <Hobbsee> that all stuff actually goes to the mailing lists, rather than everywhere
[08:57] <Hobbsee> correct.  i'm asking if it works as it's meant to work, or still has bugs.
[08:58] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[08:58] <Hobbsee> heya mpt!
[08:59] <Fujitsu> *Evening* mpt.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: i guess it's kinda sad, as i'm effectively asking if launchpad works like it's advertised to, or whether it will blow up.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: seeing as i'll get lynched if it does (working with big teams here)
[08:59] <Fujitsu> If you create a mailing list, everyone will be spammed with the creation message.
[09:00] <Fujitsu> I believe that's all they'll get if they don't subscribe.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: right.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: yeah, mailing list was done ages ago
[09:12] <jamesh> Hobbsee: if you have questions, barry would be the one to ask
[09:12] <jamesh> after all, he is Mr. Mailman
[09:13] <Hobbsee> jamesh: i just want to know that it works, and doesn't fall over and mass spam everyone, even though it's been told to use the mailing list to send anything.
[09:15] <jamesh> Hobbsee: I haven't set up any mailing lists so don't know
[09:15] <Hobbsee> jamesh: right
[09:15] <jamesh> I believe the list creation has to be approved, but don't know what happens after that
[09:15] <Hobbsee> jamesh: if it doesn't all work, i'll send the lynch mob to barry-away.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> yeah, ti does.
[09:15] <jamesh> the developers of that bit of LP are on American time
[09:17] <Hobbsee> jamesh: no great problem.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> jamesh: i'm wary of anything that possibly generates mass-spam to mass-people, if you couldn't tell
[09:17] <seb128> hi
[09:18] <seb128> what is the standard way to report spam on a launchpad bug?
[09:18] <jamesh> Hobbsee: guess that's something to include on help.launchpad.net
[09:18] <seb128> the current comment on bug #186118 for example
[09:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186118 in gnome-desktop "gnome-about crashed with KeyError in make_info_label()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186118 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
[09:18] <jamesh> seb128: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:18] <Hobbsee> seb128: questions, in the /topic
[09:19] <seb128> Hobbsee: that's not a question
[09:19] <seb128> jamesh: thanks
[09:20] <Hobbsee> seb128: i realise that.  what i meant was "you want the section marked "questions" in the /topic"
[09:20] <seb128> Hobbsee: ah, ok ;-)
[09:20] <Hobbsee> which gives you the URL that jamesh gave
[09:20] <seb128> gotcha
[09:20] <seb128> thanks
[09:21] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> seb128: didn't you know?  There shall be NO QUESTIONS asked in here.  NONE!
[09:21] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:21] <seb128> EDONTCARE
[09:21] <seb128> :-)
[09:21] <Hobbsee> awww
[09:21]  * Hobbsee is sure there's a monty python reference in there
[09:21] <Hobbsee> ah yes.  NO SINGING.
[09:22] <jamesh> I wonder what the user expected twitter to do with the bug report?
[09:23] <jamesh> it looks like an action initiated by the user rather than Twitter spamming us
[09:28] <Hobbsee> from the other bug there, it looks like he has no idea what he's doing anyway
[09:29] <seb128> Hobbsee: want to open the launchpad ticket for me about that? ;-)
[09:30] <Hobbsee> seb128: not really.
[09:30] <Hobbsee> seb128: you can use mail for it though
[09:30] <seb128> ok, I think I just don't care enough and will ignore it
[09:30] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, it's a question
[09:30]  * Hobbsee waits for it to load
[09:31] <Hobbsee> seb128: done
[09:31] <seb128> Hobbsee: thanks
[09:31]  * seb128 hugs Hobbsee
[09:31]  * Hobbsee hugs seb128
[09:31] <Hobbsee> apparently i'm not completely lazy
[09:31] <Fujitsu> Launchpad is synonymous with waiting.
[09:32] <jamesh> May you never find ubuntu on your shoe
[09:32] <Hobbsee> hm?
[09:32] <Fujitsu> ... interesting.
[09:32] <jamesh> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/14/linux_manual/page2.html
[09:33] <Fujitsu> Is PostgreSQL really that hard to pronounce?
[09:37] <\sh> Fujitsu, sometimes ;)
[09:47] <Hobbsee> i wish the invite mails for the teams actually worked, rather than being split across two lines
[09:47]  * Hobbsee manually constructs the URL
[10:52] <nand> barry-away: some feedback on edge: setting the ML as contact address of the team fails (OOPS-838EB38)
[10:57] <nand> barry-away: and an still empty (http://lists.launchpad.net/brainstorm-dev/) ML archive after having sent a test yesterday
[11:03] <stgraber> nand: I never received that test :)
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #218580 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 want remove j2re1.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218580
[11:17] <nand> barry-away, stgraber: so something is definitely wrong :)
[11:24] <Fujitsu> nand: Sure you sent it from the right address?
[11:35] <nand> Fujitsu: brainstorm-dev@lists.launchpad.net, right?
[11:36] <Fujitsu> nand: *From*, not to.
[11:38] <nand> Fujitsu: I'm subscribed using my "Preferred address", from which I sent the mail.
[11:38] <nand> I give a try by explicitely setting my email adress instead of the "preferred" one.
[11:39] <nand> stgraber: second test sent
[12:13] <edemkrimea> hello
[12:13] <barry> nand: have you submitted a bug report on that yet?
[13:04] <andrea-bs> hi, can I use the Launchpad theme for a web page outside launchpad.net?
[13:05] <mpt> andrea-bs, what kind of Web page?
[13:08] <nand> barry: not yet. Shall I make two separate ones (setting ML as contact address fails, and send a mail to the ML fails)?
[13:09] <andrea-bs> mpt: it's a list similar to +karma to list some small notices
[13:09] <barry> nand: yes, though i think they are the same problem, cascaded from the config bug
[13:09] <barry> nand: but just in case it'll be better to track them separately
[13:09] <barry> nand: thanks!
[13:12] <mpt> andrea-bs, I couldn't give you an answer off-hand, I suggest mailing the launchpad-users mailing list <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users> and I'll find someone to reply
[13:12] <andrea-bs> mpt: ok, thanks
[13:19] <nand> barry: here you are: bug 218625, bug 218628
[13:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218625
[13:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218628
[13:21] <barry> nand: thanks.  i'll be afk for a bit now, but will be working on this today
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #218625 in launchpad "[OOPS]setting the mailing list as contact address fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218625
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #218628 in launchpad "Sending a message to a LP mailing list fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218628
[13:26] <nand> barry: cool, thanks!
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #218647 in launchpad "Confirmation message appear in other browser tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218647
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #218682 in launchpad "Change "new mailing list" notification text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218682
[16:12] <elmargol> Does the ppa support backports?
[16:15] <ubotu> New bug: #218706 in launchpad "Template processor forces a newline at the end of the output" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218706
[16:27] <Hobbsee> elmargol: not currently
[16:32] <laga> can someone reactivate my signature for my code of conduct? https://launchpad.net/~laga/+codesofconduct
[16:33] <rkerr> any tips for creating a proper ssh key on windows?
[16:34] <Hobbsee> laga: would'nt you need to reactivate it yourself, or sign it again?
[16:34] <Hobbsee> oh wait, LP admin.
[16:34] <laga> yup :)
[16:34] <intellectronica> rkerr: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ used to be pretty good last time i tried
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: use the questions: link in the topic, but it's usually quicker just to resign and upload teh changed one
[16:35] <intellectronica> maybe there's something better these days, i haven't done windows in quite a while
[16:35] <laga> ah. ok, i'll resign it. thanks Hobbsee 
[16:35]  * Hobbsee has 2 invalid ones, and one valid one
[16:35] <laga> Hobbsee: did you deactivate it two times? ;)
[16:35] <rkerr> intellectronica: yeah, i can never get launchpad to accept the keys putty makes
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: yeah
[16:35] <Hobbsee> laga: well, 2 different ones, once each time
[16:36] <intellectronica> rkerr: another option is to install cygwin and use normal openssh
[16:36] <intellectronica> rkerr: really? what is the problem?
[16:36] <rkerr> intellectronica: i paste the contents of the public key and launchpad says it's invalid
[16:36] <laga> wget really doesn't like downloading from laucnhpad w/o --no-check-certificate
[16:37] <intellectronica> rkerr: where do you get the key from? what does it look like? are you sure that you're using the right thing?
[16:38] <intellectronica> rkerr: b.t.w the new ubuntu has a fantastic windows installer. it's easier than ever before to get yourself started ;)
[16:38] <rkerr> intellectronica: well i did have it all setup in linux but i'm on a borrowed laptop at the moment
[16:38] <intellectronica> rkerr: right, which is why you need to register a new ssh key...
[16:39] <rkerr> intellectronica: i'm pasting whatever puttygen saves as the public key. but it looks nothing like what openssh generates for a public key
[16:39] <intellectronica> rkerr: oh, what does it look like, then?
[16:39] <rkerr> it's got all the ---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- stuff
[16:40] <rkerr> i think openssh saves a 1-liner
[16:40] <rkerr> hm, maybe i need to take it from the putty UI instead of what it saves to the file
[16:41] <intellectronica> rkerr: see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26705 i think it may be the same problem you're experiencing
[16:41] <rkerr> ya there we goes
[16:41] <rkerr> intellectronica: that's exactly it
[16:41] <intellectronica> cool
[16:41] <intellectronica> rkerr: does the explanation mean anything to you? i don't have a windows machine here to try...
[16:42] <rkerr> intellectronica: yeah, it's the same as what i just did
[16:42] <intellectronica> and it still doesn't work?
[16:42] <rkerr> intellectronica: _does_ :)
[16:42] <intellectronica> great!
[16:43] <intellectronica> launchpad answers ftw :)
[16:43] <rkerr> aw, i can't +1 the answer
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #218753 in launchpad "GeoIP returns RS for Serbia which is the correct new iso code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218753
[18:21] <Vadi> Why do some links in launchpad help point to edge.launchpad.net? Is that proper?
[18:23] <statik> Vadi: it's because we do beta-testing on edge.launchpad.net
[18:23] <statik> Vadi: if you are not in the beta testers team, you should not be redirected to edge
[18:23] <statik> but, if people paste URLs, sometimes those URLs point to edge
[18:23] <statik> I often forget to edit my urls before pasting them
[18:24] <Vadi> ﻿statik: this is in official documentation though. Should I edit the link to point to the normal launchpad then?
[18:24] <statik> Vadi: yes, probably. where is it, I can confirm for you real quick
[18:24] <Vadi> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[18:24] <statik> Vadi: and thanks for catching it!
[18:24] <Vadi> Step 2: Visit  your SSH keys page.
[18:25] <statik> Vadi: yep, that should not have edge in it
[18:27] <Vadi> Okay thanks, I fixed the link
[18:28] <statik> Vadi: you rock, thanks for the help
[18:28] <Vadi> np :)
[18:39] <MiserySalin> Hi..... I wanted to know how I can register or setup a distribution in launchpad. I wanted to add "Arch Linux" ... I'm not a developer of Arch.
[18:40] <MiserySalin> Just to mark "this bugs affect Arch Linux, too" ... like with Gentoo in Launchpad
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #218767 in launchpad "update-cve script commits too often" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218767
[18:47] <statik> MiserySalin: read this, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/22 then you can file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:48] <MiserySalin> Thanks
[19:00] <Rinchen> >>> Meeting time in #launchpad-meeting
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #218783 in malone "OOPS parsing CSV for mantis bugtrackers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218783
[19:34] <kikojava> statik: this thing is cool
[19:34] <kikojava> but it requires a kinda big window!
[19:34] <statik> kikojava: yeah, we used it at barcamp
[19:34] <kikojava> it's a bit disturbing in a way
[19:34] <kikojava> typing into a browser page.
[19:36]  * rockstar_ wonders about XSS vulnerabilities
[19:37] <rockstar_> kikojava, Could I do <script>alert('XSS');</script> and you end up seeing it?
[19:37] <rockstar_> Er, seeing the messagebox
[19:37] <kikojava> no, I doubt this renders using JS via Java
[19:40] <kiko> rockstar_, it's just a java applet 
[19:40] <kiko> java.freenode.net
[19:41] <rockstar_> I've seen some pretty shizzy java applets.  Just making sure this ain't one of them.
[19:49] <Rinchen> changed the next mtg time
[20:24] <statik> rockstar_: welcome aboard
[20:26] <rockstar_> statik, thanks!  I'm overly excited for the new gig.
[20:26] <rockstar_> Monday can't seem to come soon enough.
[20:27] <statik> rockstar_: just watch out for that Rinchen dude
[20:27] <Rinchen> I heard that.
[20:27]  * Rinchen laughs.
[20:27] <statik> :)
[20:28] <Rinchen> statik, he's coming to my tortur....er.... house on Monday 
[20:29] <statik> awesome. induction into the launchpad code base is like a rollercoaster ride, it's awesome that you can do it in person
[20:29]  * rockstar_ makes sure to leave something besides breadcrumbs, in case Rinchen wants me to clean the over
[20:29] <rockstar_> s/over/oven
[20:30] <Rinchen> clearly statik, rockstar_ doesn't know about my evening job.
[20:30]  * rockstar_ yelps
[20:30] <Rinchen> *evil laughter*
[20:31] <statik> hey, this is a neat launchpad project http://launchpad.net/rescuetime-linux-uploader
[20:31] <Rinchen> man statik, I want your job :-)
[20:33] <statik> Rinchen: working on launchpad is like the best job i've ever had
[20:33] <Rinchen> statik, I'm going to signup for that. I think that could be fun
[20:33] <statik> I still want to spend a few months as a tow truck driver when I grow up
[20:34] <kiko> statik, that's got to have privacy issues!
[20:34] <statik> kiko: it does, and also has whitelists, and open source (auditable) clients, and i gave up on privacy anyway
[20:34] <statik> i just want to be more efficient
[20:35] <statik> the thing that was amazing to me about this project was that it is a reverse engineering project, and they started using launchpad, and the company links to them all over the place
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #218923 in launchpad "XMLRPCRunner should be more robust about mailing list exceptions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218923