[00:10] <seb128> pochu: looking for something to do? ;-) the nemiver upstream asked if ubuntu could update to the current version, that should be easy enough, I tried the current debian version and it builds and works correctly on hardy
[00:11] <seb128> upgrading to current would be nice, maybe building using libgtkhex and the new libgtksourceviewmm too as debian do now
[00:12] <pochu> Maintainer: Daniel Holbach <daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com>
[00:12] <pochu> oh :)
[00:12]  * pochu looks at it anyway ;-)
[00:13] <seb128> anyway, enough for me today
[00:13] <Nafallo> night seb128 :-)
[00:14] <pochu> yes, good night :)
[00:14] <pochu> hi Nafallo
[00:14] <seb128> 'night guys
[00:15] <Nafallo> hi pochu :-)
[00:15] <seb128> see you tomorrow
[00:15] <Nafallo> seb128: sure. come to London :-)
[00:15] <pochu> can I go too? :)
[00:15] <seb128> Nafallo: see you on IRC rather ;-)
[00:15] <Nafallo> can't see why not :-)
[00:15] <seb128> I've enough to do without travelling
[00:15] <Nafallo> seb128: hehe. wfm :-)
[06:36] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <dejuren> guys, anyone aware of what's happening with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtksourceview/+bug/52975 ?
[07:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 52975 in gtksourceview "gedit freeze when browsing a file" [Medium,Confirmed]
[08:20] <seb128> good morning
[08:22] <dejuren> seb128: gm. I have a question for you...
[08:23] <dejuren> seb128: do you know the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtksourceview/+bug/52975 ?
[08:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 52975 in gtksourceview "gedit freeze when browsing a file" [Medium,Confirmed]
[08:25] <seb128> dejuren: nobody seems to be working on this one if that's the question
[08:26] <dejuren> seb128: OK, the answer is fair, but the bad news are we may escalate this
[08:26] <seb128> "we"?
[08:27] <dejuren> support
[08:28] <dejuren> our customer come with this today
[08:33] <dholbach> hi seb128
[08:34] <seb128> hey dholbach
[09:09] <pitti> seb128: btw, did you notice that gnome-screensaver does not accept passwords after resuming from suspend/hibernate? happens on both my boxes, so I don't think it's a local configuration error
[09:10] <pitti> seb128: that's something I want to look at next week, unless you know something about that already?
[09:11] <seb128> pitti: I didn't notice, maybe ted has an idea he's looking at gnome-screensaver nowadays
[09:17] <seb128> hey pochu
[09:17] <pochu> morning seb128
[09:18] <pochu> seb128: regarding nemiver... that will need a freeze exception and I'm not sure it will be granted.
[09:18] <seb128> pochu: I'm granting it
[09:18] <seb128> pochu: I'm the one doing the GNOMish exceptions
[09:21] <seb128> hate hate xulrunner
[09:22] <pochu> seb128: oh, cool then :-)
[09:22] <pitti> seb128: xulrunner?
[09:23] <seb128> pitti: xul1.9, epiphany keeps crashing on closing
[09:23] <seb128> or hanging with no ui displayed
[09:23] <seb128> which means clicking on urls just stops working
[09:24] <seb128> I'm considering installing xul1.8 and rebuilding epiphany with it
[09:24] <seb128> anyway nothing important everybody uses firefox nowadays anyway ;-)
[09:26] <pitti> or webkit :)
[09:26] <seb128> right, that's for next cycle though
[09:27] <crevette> hello
[09:27] <crevette> thanks for pushing nemiver seb128
[09:27] <crevette> :)
[09:27] <seb128> hey crevette
[09:27] <pochu> hi crevette
[09:27] <crevette> hi pochu
[09:29] <seb128> pochu: do you think you could work on bug #153572 too?
[09:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153572 in gthumb "Merge 2.10.8-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153572
[09:32] <pochu> seb128: yes. I'll do that today
[09:33] <seb128> pochu: thanks!
[09:34] <pochu> or I could get Tormod working on it... "Personally, if I knew, I would have worked on this earlier, but now with Hardy frozen, I am not gonna do that merge if I am not sure my work will be accepted into Hardy."
[09:34] <pochu> ;)
[09:36] <seb128> either way having the update available today would be nice so it can still be considered for hardy
[09:43] <pochu> seb128: there's nemiver 0.5.2 upstream (debian has 0.5.1), I'll update to that one too which fixes an infinite loop
[09:43] <seb128> pochu: right, thanks
[09:53]  * ajmitch is saddened to hear seb128 say that epiphany is having problems
[09:54] <seb128> ajmitch: it's not that bad, mainly crashing when closing
[09:54] <seb128> I guess I'm the only one opening and closing it all the time rather than adding tabs
[09:56]  * ajmitch tends to leave it open for a few weeks if possible
[09:58]  * Amaranth tends to use firefox ;)
[10:16] <Amaranth> mvo: crap, i completely forgot to commit that rotate bug fix
[10:16] <Amaranth> done now
[10:17] <mvo> Amaranth: cool, thanks
[10:18] <Amaranth> i was waiting to see if a fix for the a11y stuff would come and then forgot the whole thing
[10:21] <mvo> it seems like the a11y stuff is settled now, but its a bit more than the initial small patch (orca changed are needed as well, right?) - do you think its still feasible to try it for 8.04 ? or is 8.04.1 better?
[10:21] <mvo> I guess we should put it into the compiz ppa
[10:21] <pochu> seb128: could you ACK bug 215146?
[10:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215146 in nemiver "[hardy] nemiver needs a version boost" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215146
[10:22] <seb128> pochu: just upload
[10:23] <pochu> ok, uploading
[10:26] <Amaranth> mvo: i don't think the a11y stuff should go into hardy at all at this point
[10:27] <Amaranth> maybe 8.04.1 but only if it really works, last i heard it didn't read the first title when you hit alt-tab
[10:27] <seb128> pitti: ^ nemiver in universe got freeze exception approval if you want to accept the new version just uploaded
[10:28] <pitti> ok
[10:28] <pitti> seb128: done
[10:29] <seb128> thanks
[10:29] <seb128> thanks pochu too ;-)
[10:29] <pochu> no probs :)
[10:29] <mvo> Amaranth: ok, oh well, the first patch looked so encouraging (small, straightforward) :)
[10:29] <Amaranth> yeah
[10:29] <Amaranth> small, straightforward, incredibly hacky :)
[10:30] <mvo> heh :)
[10:30] <Amaranth> for 8.10 i'm sure we'll have a switcher that actually uses gtk
[10:30] <Amaranth> I turned iXce on to the idea but if i thought it had a chance of getting accepted I'd probably do it
[10:38]  * mvo nods
[13:01] <pedro_> morning
[13:03] <kwwii> seb128: I updated the human theme to include the change for the compiz bug since it seems like it fixes it for everyone
[13:03] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/human-theme_0.18.dsc
[13:03] <kwwii> dholbach: if you want to look into that, I also commited my changes to bzr
[13:33] <kwwii> seb128, dholbach: wait on those changes a bit, I might as well fix it in murrine as well
[13:34] <kwwii> erm, forget that comment :p
[13:36] <dholbach> kwwii: so the changes are all good now?
[13:37] <kwwii> dholbach: yes
[13:38] <dholbach> kwwii: can you make it (LP: #99508)?
[13:38] <dholbach> only that way the bug will get closed automatically
[13:38] <kwwii> dholbach: yepp, one second
[13:39] <kwwii> dholbach: I get that wrong every time I do it :p
[13:40] <kwwii> dholbach: should be correct now
[13:40] <dholbach> kwwii: thanks a lot
[13:41] <kwwii> dholbach: sorry for screwing up, I'll try to remember that in the future
[13:41] <dholbach> kwwii: don't worry
[13:41] <dholbach> uploaded :)
[13:42] <kwwii> :-)
[13:53] <pochu> seb128: how would you feel if I propose a gtk-vnc new upstream release (0.3.4 to 0.3.5)? It's recommended by Jonh (upstream) and fixes some important bugs in vinagre (bug 206227, bug 207205, bug 212504). There's only API additions (no API removals), and soren has told me he's ok as long as it doesn't break his libvirt stuff. Do you think we should try to get it in or is it too risky?
[13:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 207205 in gtk-vnc "vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207205
[13:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212504 in gtk-vnc "vinagre gets colors wrong viewing macosx desktop on powerpc machine" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212504
[13:54] <pochu> bug 206227
[13:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 206227 in gtk-vnc "vinagre fails to connect" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206227
[13:54] <seb128> pochu: ask pitti maybe, it's not really high risk since that's only vinagre which is using it on the CD, but hardy-updates would be alright too
[13:55] <pochu> pitti: ^ :)
[13:55] <pochu> sadly i didn't notice that was released on April 6th...
[13:56] <pochu> lunch, bbl
[14:34] <mpt> "Your laptop will not sleep when you shut the lid because a running program has prevented this."
[14:34] <mpt> gnome-power-manager is just too damn chatty
[14:39] <andreasn> is that new in 2,22?
[14:54] <mpt> I don't know, but it might be, because I don't see any Google results for the phrase :-)
[15:22] <jcastro> mpt: I've noticed the desktop in general getting too chatty with notifications lately.
[15:22] <jcastro> mpt: I think it would be a good idea to review notifications during UDS or something
[15:25] <mpt> jcastro, register it and propose it :-)
[15:26] <jcastro> good idea
[15:29] <mvo> asac: do you have a opinion on #185209 ? is this something we need to milestone?
[15:29] <seb128> bug #185209
[15:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185209 in network-manager "[hardy] Manually Configuring Network Causes Massive, Unreversable, Failure" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185209
[15:36] <andreasn> jcastro: speaking of notifications, have you managed to figure out how to actually close banshee when you lose it?
[15:36] <andreasn> it keeps existing in the notification area and keep on playing
[15:37] <andreasn> in 1.0 alpha 3 that is
[15:38] <jcastro> andreasn: that's a design decision
[15:39] <jcastro> and then it tells you "Banshee hasn't quit, click here" in a notification on top of that.
[15:39] <andreasn> that's just the first time, right?
[15:39] <jcastro> yeah
[15:41] <andreasn> hum, it is kind of weird...
[15:42] <andreasn> but it's not that big of a issue, I just recall it was possible to disable it when it was a plugin/extension and wondered if it had moved somewhere else
[15:42] <seb128> use rhythmbox rather ;-)
[15:43] <jcastro> everyone abuses the notification area. :(
[15:43] <andreasn> rmbox is just as icky when it comes to doing weird stuff in the notification area
[15:43] <andreasn> but thanks anyway :)
[16:17] <andreasn> mpt: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/04/17/223/ <- something for you?
[17:04] <kwwii> seb128: is it too late to update the gdm theme package?
[17:07] <seb128> kwwii: ask pitti, I'm not doing approvals and I'm not sure what they will approve between rc and hardy
[17:17] <crevette> hey guys, form me f-sport crashes each time I want to close it; do you have the same issue ?
[17:18] <seb128> crevette: yes
[17:18] <seb128> crevette: bug #199496
[17:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199496 in gtk-sharp2 "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199496
[17:18] <seb128> (wrongly closed)
[17:19] <crevette> ah okay
[17:19] <crevette> thanks
[17:19] <seb128> slomo did upload a fix but that's not enough
[17:19] <seb128> you are welcome
[17:19] <crevette> I'm in the process to upload 40MB of backtrace
[17:19] <crevette> :)
[17:19] <seb128> due to that one?
[17:20] <crevette> yep
[17:20] <crevette> :)=
[17:24] <crevette> hey no photo apps is trigered when my camera is used in MTP mode
[17:25] <crevette> pr 17 18:16:21 mushroom kernel: [  556.338025] f-spot[6630]: segfault at b6aca490 eip b6aca490 esp bfcbad8c error 4
[17:25] <crevette> ah at least it tries
[17:27] <mpt> andreasn, commented (awaiting moderation)
[17:28] <seb128> crevette: g-v-m should be used again since this week, did you update yesterday or today?
[17:28] <crevette> yep
[17:28] <crevette> it's not   problem I switched back to USB
[17:39] <seb128> see you later
[17:56] <andreasn> mpt: thanks!
[18:54] <slomo> pedro_: ok, which is the new bugreport for the gtk#-crash-on-exit? :)
[18:54] <slomo> pedro_: i have the real fix now
[18:55] <pochu> bug #199496
[18:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199496 in gtk-sharp2 "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199496
[18:55] <slomo> thanks
[18:55] <pochu> hey slomo :)
[18:55] <slomo> hi :)
[18:56] <slomo> pochu: where can i upload this? directly to main or what's the current status of things?
[19:04] <pochu> slomo: yes, to main, but it will need approval from ubuntu-release (e.g. pitti or slangasek)
[19:04] <pochu> slomo: you can upload it, the queue is on manual right now