[00:00] Deeps: absolutely. nice link. But I'm suggesting he'll get better help in a linux router-oriented channel. [00:00] you mean its possible? [00:00] Deeps by what application? [00:00] user1: read lartc.org, all the different tools you'll need are explained there. [00:01] oh i got it. [00:01] ok [00:01] Deeps btw, what are you favorit? [00:02] someone can help me restoring lilo from a rescuecd, i can chroot to the old system [00:02] user1: i.e. #lartc on irc.oftc.net [00:02] keep fishing [00:02] k [00:04] tough, i had a gui in mind [00:16] .. [00:21] klogd from Hardy hangs in a OpenVZ container.. e.g. during upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, but also when only installing it in a Gutsy container. [00:59] how do i start sysklogd? [00:59] my logging isn't running. [01:06] Now if this actually works I will be well pleased. [01:07] Whoot! [01:08] * owh is now using an N95 to connect :-) [01:12] Hmm, I suppose that means I don't have any excuses not to attend meetings either :-) [01:25] kirkland: re your ubuntu search page [01:26] kirkland: I wouldn't use your default index page on p.u.c [01:27] kirkland: if you start publishing this url and it proves to be a good idea, it'll move somewhere else - and then you won't be able to redirect to the new page [01:27] kirkland: so I'd suggest to use something like p.u.c/~kirkland/ubuntu-search.html or something similar === Tuv0k is now known as darthanubis [01:59] openvz is really nice for (linux) virtualisation.. just in case you did not know already.. :) [01:59] !openvz [01:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about openvz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:11] Can anyone help me understand why my password isn't working on an ftp file server I set up? [02:12] I assume my server's user I set up should be the one I log in with, but it fails to let me log in. [02:15] If that's not enough detail... I can explain more if someone asks. [02:37] How about this question: Why would an FTP server refuse to initiate the LIST command for a client? [02:43] mathiaz: FWIW, I'm about to do the mail server test for the current candidate. [02:43] ScottK: excellent ! [02:44] ScottK: do you test more than what is written in the testcase ? [02:44] I'll set the default mail server task, run the tests and then convert it to the configuration I use and continue to use it. [02:45] mathiaz: I've had sever servers running Hardy for ~2 weeks now with no significant issues. I'm confident postfix is solid. [02:46] mathiaz: If you have something specific you want tested, let me know. [02:46] ScottK: seems good to me. [02:46] ScottK: I don't really have other configuration to tests. [02:46] ScottK: the testcase described in the wiki page is simple [02:47] ScottK: so I was wondering if you had other ideas about things to be tested. [02:47] ScottK: OTOH it may be more complicated as there can be lots of different setup [02:47] Yeah. [02:48] For the default install it'd be good to look in /var/log/mail.* and report any unusual events logged. [02:48] I'm still using cyrus-sasl2. I know that works. [03:37] I am setting up a server. having problems accessing ftp from xp box. Gon over vsftpd.conf. changed what i thought i needed to but [03:38] i still can only acsess server anonymousely [03:38] i created a new user to see what i could get [03:39] will not let me connect [03:39] any ideas? [03:39] Turn on logging and check the logs [03:41] mathiaz: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/search.html [03:41] mathiaz: and http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/ [03:42] kirkland: awesome - I'd also add an explicity sentence on how to report bug/feature request and so on [03:42] kirkland: I'd just point it to your email address for now [03:43] * owh requests a coffee making facility. [03:43] mathiaz: sure, will probably do that tomorrow [03:43] I'll add a few lines about the motivation, etc. [03:43] kirkland: I'd use @ubuntu.com as it's hosted on p.u.c (but that's a minor point - I'm picky) [03:43] mathiaz: :-) [03:43] mathiaz: i'm happy you're pleased with it as is [03:43] mathiaz: i half expected criticism :-) [03:44] mathiaz: I found a way to dump xml source code from the Google gadget [03:44] mathiaz: so I was thinking I'd start a Launchpad project for it [03:45] mathiaz: what do you think? [03:45] kirkland: why not - it seems that there isn't a lot of code yet [03:46] If it helps others expand on it, that is always a good thing. [03:46] mathiaz: not really... just an index.html and the xml that describes the particulars of the Google Search mechanism [03:46] kirkland: I'd start by just leaving your email adress to leave suggestion [03:46] mathiaz: well my email address is on http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/search.html [03:46] " [03:46] This Google Custom Search is maintained by Dustin Kirkland" [03:46] kirkland: right [03:46] mathiaz: i can switch from gmail -> ubuntu.com [03:46] kirkland: that's enough I think [03:47] mathiaz: done. [03:47] kirkland: it's true that sharing the code is usefull and recommended - but in this case it's really not a lot of code [03:47] mathiaz: its not a lot, but i'm thinking there could be a license that we should choose for it [03:47] Go to bed! [03:47] kirkland: I think that's awesome [03:48] mathiaz: b/c, goobuntu.com could redo their search using it [03:48] and add the ads [03:48] whereas i think we'd like to be ad free [03:49] Your eyelids are getting heavy... [03:50] g'night ;-) [03:50] :-) [05:16] I'd like to set up my first RAID with a pile of 300G IDE drives I have laying around. Are there any IDE specific issues I need to be aware of that I haven't seen? [05:43] Greetings! I just installed Ubuntu Server version 7.10, however it did not prompt me for a root password. How do I set / retrieve / change the root password? [05:44] I can log in as the user I made, mike, but I can't even add myself to the sudo list as I don't have and wasn't prompted for the root password [05:45] Lucutious: You should be in the sudo list already [05:46] Just sudo $whatever and use your password. [05:46] How can I view the sudo list to verify? [05:46] Just use it and see. [05:46] * ScottK goes to bed. [05:50] ScottK, if you're still there, it's not working [05:52] #set passwd root ---> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root. [05:52] err [05:52] $set passwd root ---> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root. [05:52] and if I try... [05:52] Lucutious: if you do sudo passwd you'll be able to login as root [05:53] set passwd root ---> It prompts for the password for mike, and then says "mike is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." [05:53] is that the user you setup during install? [05:53] Absolutely [05:54] hence why I'm so confused and flustered [05:54] you'll need to boot into recovery mode in taht case and set the password, or add the "mike" user to /etc/sudoers [05:55] /taht/that [06:08] Sommer thanks [06:16] why I got Hash Sum mismatch when I using apt-get update [06:41] Lucutious: np [07:48] I'm having a really rough time with mod+rewrite in dapper, and .htaccess. I do sudo "apache2 -l" and it doesn't list the mod_rewrite module. But when I "a2enmod rewrite" it says it's enabled. I'm not sure what to put in my .htaccess file, I've tried many things, and it hasn't worked. Someone please help me. [07:49] <_ruben> J-_: you did restart your apache? [07:49] Yes [07:50] <_ruben> hmm .. dont have any dapper boxes, so cant check [07:51] s/+/_ [07:52] I'll ask in #ubuntu, see if I get a response [08:09] <_ruben> interesting .. it *seems* that with hardy jeos, the login prompt actually appears *after* all startup scripts ran .. then again, its a rather basic install: not many services to start [08:39] good morning [08:40] <_ruben> morning [08:41] _ruben: I belive that all hardy version now have the login prompt displayed once all services have started on tty1. One can still login immediately on tty2, 3 etc... though [08:42] <_ruben> nijaba: ic, i wasnt complaining though, i was kinda 'surprised' that this "cosmetic bug" got fixed :-) [08:42] _ruben: a hard fight ;) [08:43] <_ruben> hehe [08:46] <_ruben> hmm .. wonder if there's an 'easy' way to roll ia32 compat libs yourself .. missing some 32bits libs to run the vmware's mui on 64bits host [08:51] <_ruben> damn .. tried to work around it by using some symlink-foo .. but it craps out on libdb [08:51] <_ruben> /usr/lib/vmware-mui/apache/bin/httpd.vmware: /usr/lib32/libdb.so.3: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/vmware-mui/apache/bin/httpd.vmware) [08:53] LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/lib/vmware-mui/apache/bin/httpd.vmware shoudl help [08:58] <_ruben> lets try that [08:59] or try LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libdb.so.3 [09:00] if that also not works search for ypir libdb.so.3 and give the path from that to the LD_PRELOAD [09:01] <_ruben> doesnt work .. libdb.so.3 is a symlink i just made, pointing to libdb-4.3.so [09:01] <_ruben> whcih is the only libdb i could find in ia32-libs [09:01] * _ruben sometimes hates 64bits [09:11] <_ruben> seems i need a ia32 variant of the libdb1-compat package [10:02] moin [10:03] <_ruben> mornin [10:21] hi there! [10:21] I have a problem with vsftpd [10:21] I can't see anything online [10:21] some ideas? [10:45] anybody currently working with vmware server here ? [11:33] bip: yeah I have vmware server running [11:59] <_ruben> nijaba: i doubt the "cleaner" boot process will be backported to say gutsy gibbon? (talking about the services starting after the login prompt is shown) [13:38] <_ruben> man .. my connection to nl.archive.ubuntu.com is really crappy lately .. probably applies to the internet pipe here in general, but only noticing it with mass downloads from archive [13:43] * delcoyote hi [13:48] <_ruben> Jeeves_ / henkjan : any known problems on your side? im guessing its my side crapping out, but just curious ;-) [13:49] _ruben: Define 'problems' [13:49] <_ruben> debmirror is giving me "Transfer truncated: only 2487018 out of 2891236 bytes received" every now and then [13:49] _ruben: What's the ip you're coming from? [13:49] <_ruben> 84.244.141.35 [13:50] <_ruben> happened twice now .. could very well be my side .. pipe's been acting up lately [13:50] <_ruben> tho http wasnt really affected untill now [13:51] You're using ftp [13:52] <_ruben> am not [13:52] Right? [13:52] <_ruben> http [13:52] Why not rsync? [13:53] <_ruben> rsync and ftp gave problems earlier .. connection stalls .. http did work fine untill today i decided to mirror uni and multiverse as well (had only main before) [13:53] <_ruben> can give rsync a try again, to see if that seems more stable now [13:56] <_ruben> Jeeves_: running in rsync mode now, lets see if it'll hold :) [14:03] _ruben: Ack [14:18] <_ruben> hmm .. so far so good [14:49] jdstrand: in the rules files used by ufw is there a way to add an "include" statement referencing another file? [14:50] sommer: no [14:50] ah, thanks [14:50] jdstrand: these are simple iptables-restore/iptables-save type files [14:50] sommer: ^ [14:51] jdstrand: I see, I was just wondering, and couldn't find anything specific regarding that on the interwebs [15:19] * faulkes- yawns [15:46] mathiaz: hello, I just was wondering if a "install everything" test should be added to the iso qa list? [15:57] sommer: you mean install all the tasks or install all the packages shipped on the -server iso ? [16:01] mathiaz: all the tasks... I was thinking of that bug in gutsy that didn't add the user to sudo on install [16:01] mathiaz: didn't that only show up when installing all the tasks? I may be mis-remembering [16:02] sommer: the specific bug was triggered when you'd install mail-server, and leave postfix unconfigured [16:02] sommer: we've never hit this bug because we'd always configure postfix when we install it... [16:03] mathiaz: oh right, I remember now... so that doesn't have anything to do with all tasks :) [16:03] sommer: yes [16:03] sommer: but I agree that install every package on the cd would be interesting to do [16:03] sommer: there may be some conflict though [16:04] sommer: exim and postfix may be both shipped on the cd [16:05] Greetings! I know it's not direct Ubuntu-server support, but if anyone has a moment or 2 I'm having issues with my proftpd [16:05] mathiaz: gotcha, I think the current tests are good, just wanted to double check about that bug [16:05] thanks mathiaz [16:05] sommer: well - you can try to install a mail-server task and then leave postfix unconfigured (I think it's the default choice) [16:07] mathiaz: cool, I'll give it a quick test [16:07] Lucutious: what's your issue? [16:07] sommer: I can't get it to start. It says to check my configuration, but honestly I don't know quite what to look for [16:08] Looking at the website for it, but it's not giving me clues as I understand [16:08] Lucutious: are thare eny errors in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/daemon.log pertaining to proftpd? [16:08] let me look === dantaliz1ng is now known as dantalizing [16:11] sommer: no, not that I can see, and doing a search of "proftpd" yielded nothing as well. [16:12] When I boot the machine it does give one line: [16:13] ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. [16:13] and after typing that, I think I see it. I need to set it to be standalone i think [16:13] Lucutious: probably worth trying :) [16:15] Lucutious: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd... should give you a dialog to change it [16:15] awesome, thanks I'll try that [16:21] sommer: Well, it started! the machine is actively refusing sonnections on port 21 still, though, so Hmm [16:22] Lucutious: are there any errors? do you have a firewall configued to block the port? [16:23] sommer to be honest, i don't know where to look for errors. this is day 2 of using ubunto, or any non-windows os. I don't believe I have any firewall on the machine right this moment. that was gonig to be configured next [16:23] the error I gave was the one my ftp client gave me, that the machine was actively refusing connections [16:24] Lucutious: ah, most services will log errors to /var/log/syslog, so that's the best place to check first [16:24] ok let me look there [16:25] Lucutious: also, did you modify /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf? [16:26] sommer: no errors found, and again i did a search for "proftpd" [16:26] sommer: well no, i didn't. Something tells me, however, that as you mentioned it I probably should have :-) [16:26] let me look at that file [16:27] Lucutious: I installed proftpd and didn't need to change the config any, you might search for "ftp" in /var/log/syslog and make sure there isn't anything [16:27] I make no misrepresentation, I'm completely out of my element, but I surely appreciate you helping me. [16:27] Lucutious: np [16:28] Lucutious: you can also make sure proftpd is running by: ps -ef | grep ftp [16:28] it should return information about the proftpd process [16:29] ok, searched for ftp in syslog and it returned nothing, and when I used that command, it returned: [16:29] root 4344 4311 0 11:28 tty1 00:00:00 grep ftp [16:30] Lucutious: that means that proftpd isn't actually running... try sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start [16:32] Hmm this seems odd to me [16:32] I staretd it via your command, and it returned: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd. [16:32] Then i re-typed the ps -ef | grep ftp, but gave me same thing as before [16:36] sommer may I /msg you for a private question? [16:36] * nealmcb chuckles at the server team minutes [16:36] Lucutious: sure [16:41] sommer: did you see the /msg? [16:43] Lucutious: nope, have you registered your nick with freenode? [16:44] no, that's probably why, huh [16:44] lemme do that [16:44] Lucutious: I was just thinking... do you have to use proftpd? [16:44] Lucutious: another ftp server I've used is vsftpd [16:44] No I don't ahve to use any specific one [16:44] the simpler the better, in my case, until I learn this thing yet [16:45] Lucutious: you can find a quick guide for vsftpd here: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html [16:45] I think vsftpd is simpler, runs as it's own service, instead of the xinetd option [16:46] <\sh> sommer, proftpd runs as standalone service, too, means without inetd [16:47] <\sh> sommer, you have to configure it, though [16:47] \sh: ya, but I think for a newcomer it may be less confusing to use vsftpd, but then again maybe not :) [16:48] Is there anything I need to do to un-install proftpd? [16:48] <\sh> apt-get remove --purge proftpd? [17:03] sommer Yay it seems to be working! Minor issue, however lol - I need to setup users, and if I read this right I need to setup a user for the system, it can't just be a user for ftp? or am I terrible confused [17:06] Lucutious: the ftp user should be setup, but the default vsftpd config only allows system users access [17:06] Lucutious: are you wanting to share files with the Internet or just to your local LAN? [17:07] basically you need to decide what kind of access permissions you need :) [17:07] Just the local lan. I think using FTP is more secure than just giving my smf forums 777 access to all, so I need to create a user for my smf forums so it can change the files it needs to change [17:08] Maybe some day I'll get into opening it up for everyone, but not today [17:09] Lucutious: ah, yep that should work, you can user the useradd utility to create the user, then just configure your forum to use it [17:09] sudo /etc/useradd <-- guessing? [17:11] Lucutious: woops, I meant adduser :(... sudo adduser should get you there [17:11] though I think there is a useradd... heh [17:11] yep, so either one [17:24] sommer Awesome! this os working out awesome [17:27] Lucutious: cool, glad to hear it :-) [17:30] lol it's always something. I need to tweak permissions for the user I created. Right now it cannot write to any file. I think I enabled it in vsftpd.conf but i'll recheck. Is there user settings I might need to tweak somewhere? [17:32] Alternatively, I could just grant php permissions to create a directory and write to it, but I'm unsure how to do that as well [17:32] Lucutious: does the use have a home directory? /home/user_name? if not sudo mkdir /home/user_name [17:33] well i made it's home directory the /var/www directory, as it's only going to be used by smf [17:34] Lucutious: ah, then you'll want to edit the user's entry in /etc/passwd to reflect that [17:34] Lucutious: or you can use the usermod command [17:35] at least, I made it that in webmin, but when I log in it dumps me in the /var directory so i bed i did something wrong or it saved wrong [17:35] i'll try that usermod command [17:36] Ya still dumps me in the /var one [17:38] Lucutious: maybe restart vsftpd? [17:39] good idea [17:41] ok, restarted and it's still doingthe same dumb thing [17:41] but even that's ok, easy to work around [17:42] now I'm being told that PHP doens't have permission to create a directory and/or write files /sigh [17:42] does the ftp user have rights to the directory? ls -l /var will tell you [17:43] the php thing is probably because the www-data user needs rights to the directory as well [17:44] ok ls -l /var spit out a binch of stuff, going down to the www dir it says: [17:45] drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2008-14-17 10:25 www [17:48] try chown www-data.yourftpuser /var/www, you might need to add the -R switch which will adjust subdirectories as well [17:50] if he's trying to write there, wouldn't he need to chmod g+w them as well? [17:54] g and w, those are write and change permissions, right? [17:54] yes, that too... thanks faulkes :) [17:54] g+w sets the directory/file to allow group members to write [17:54] ahh cool [18:14] Yayayayay [18:14] suchhappy times, and I learned a lot, too [18:15] I think I just have one more thing to do, but that might be a pain so I wanna get the rest setup first [18:16] sendmail >< [18:18] I forget the proper way to clean out old scripts from /etc/init.d/? [18:20] the program is not installed [19:32] nijaba: hello, I was just thinking that a good whitepaper topic may be likewise-open integration with AD [19:44] hi! it would be great if someone could check http://paste.ubuntu.com/7316/ I got those in a big dapper->hardy upgrade test [19:45] mvo: I think that's a case of non-conffile -> conffile promotion. [21:38] mathiaz: mail server test on yesterday's daily went well. No issues with the CD. I edited the test procedure to better match what the CD presents. [21:40] ScottK: awesome ! thanks [21:50] Can ubuntu-server be used to run a RAID server without having a monitor connected to it? [21:51] sure [21:51] any extra config required for no-monitor? [21:52] nope, once you're installed, make sure openssh-server is installed, and just ssh to the machine and configure like that [21:52] You'll want SSH so you can connect remotely. [21:53] and it'll start all the samba services without having to ssh everytime after I install them? [21:53] if correctly configured (which it is by default apon installing samba), yes [21:53] awesome [21:54] I've been tinkering with FreeNAS but haven't really been a major fan, so this should be better. [21:55] this is much bigger and requires you to configure everything manually, [21:55] I know [21:55] but FreeNAS is really annoying [21:55] in what way? [21:56] anything un-default is a major PITA to set up [21:56] in what way? [21:56] it just doesn't work well [21:56] fair enough [21:57] I had to leave all my SAMBA shares to be password free b/c it kept locking me out [21:58] thanks [22:06] Anyone familiar with FTP servers? Having trouble when my server gets to the LIST command... [23:05] leonel: Are you up for some clamav updates? [23:06] leonel: Debian's updates due to 0.93 are out. I've just asked to have the latest sync'ed for Hardy. [23:07] ScottK: don't know what happened to 213500 [23:08] and bug #217361 [23:08] Bug 217361 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/217361 is private [23:08] Dunno. [23:09] for bug #217361 I'm already working on the patch [23:09] Bug 217361 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/217361 is private [23:09] Great. [23:09] but since there are 2 bug reports for clamav don't know how to proceed with the lattest [23:09] I'm going to backport Hardy -> Dapper and then see about getting that pushed into updates. [23:09] or merge both in 1 diff [23:10] Ask jdstrand how he wants you to proceed. [23:10] ScottK: OK I'll do [23:12] ScottK: I've made a deb for 0.93 based on your 0.92.1 deb enabling the rar libs that for my servers [23:13] leonel: 0.93 will be rather more complicated due to the soname change in libclamav, a bunch of config option changes, and an incompatible on disk database format. I'm working on it. [23:13] ScottK: yes I saw that but as I only use clamav with clamsmtp the soname change didn't affected my setup [23:14] but will be for the backport [23:14] Right. Should work for you, but for the distro it's a major pain. [23:14] and as allways if you need help .. just press F1 .. [23:14] ScottK: haha if I can help to test just let me know and I'll make tine [23:15] ScottK: sounds like some minor changes, a week before release [23:16] But you have to accept the pain of the update at some point, I guess [23:18] ajmitch: We're passing on 0.93 for Hardy. To hard. I do want to make sure our package has all the security fixes though. [23:18] I'm going to try and get it into hardy-backports at the release. [23:21] Which means updating about 20 other packages in backports again? [23:31] Yep [23:33] leonel: I just marked your bub a dupe of bug 217256 since it was filed first. [23:33] Launchpad bug 217256 in clamav "ClamAV Upack Processing Buffer Overflow Vulnerability" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217256 [23:33] Gotta run.