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Odd-rationalecan you give me the name of the iso? kubuntu-kde4-beta?00:00
matt__Odd-rationale: i've got the md5 hashsum thing brought up listing all the sums...00:00
anaisalguien sabe como puedo hacer para configurar el video de mi portatil?00:00
NickPresta!es | anais00:01
ubotuanais: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.00:01
matt__Odd-rationale: alright, they match up.00:01
Odd-rationalematt__: which iso is this again?00:01
matt__Odd-rationale: 8.04 latest beta kde 3.5 i38600:02
* Dr_willis walks in. Had to go get the grandbaby. :)00:02
Odd-rationalematt__: did you burn the cd slooooowly?00:02
matt__Odd-rationale: no, i didn't now how to make cdrecord do that...00:02
matt__Dr_willis: ok...so booting to cd gives me ash=built in shell crap00:03
matt__Dr_willis: any ideas why this would happen?00:03
matt__Odd-rationale: Dr_willis you all still here?00:04
Odd-rationalematt__: is it busybox?00:05
matt__Odd-rationale: yes, that is what comes up00:05
Dr_willissounds like a failier to burn properly, so its defaulting to the busybox shell.00:05
* Odd-rationale agrees with Dr_willis00:06
Dr_willisI always use the alternative installer cd's  - they seem less critical of this stuff00:06
* Odd-rationale agrees with Dr_willis again...00:06
Dr_willisI was thinking there was an 'install' option in the grub menu items on the cd's also that goes straight to the installer.00:06
matt__Dr_willis: i tried that one, same effect00:06
matt__Dr_willis: so if i could know how to burn a cd at 4x using cdrecord in terminal...i'll try again...00:06
Dr_willisTime to try a different cd/iso Im thinking.  -  it may be the image is bad.00:07
Odd-rationalematt__: "man cdrecord" ?00:07
Enul132can someone please tell me how to move my recycle bin from the panel to my desktop?00:07
matt__Dr_willis: it's not, i checked the md5 sum00:07
matt__unless it is bad altogether...00:07
Dr_willisEnul132,  ive gotten where i MUCH MUCH perfer it on the panel. :)00:07
Enul132ok.. but how do i get it from the panel to the desktop00:08
Dr_willisEnul132,  you just add a trashcan thing to the desktop. you dont have to 'move it from the panel' to the desktop00:08
Dr_willisyou can have both00:08
Dr_willissome how.. :) in the kde settings somewhere thers a checkbox i recall00:08
Dr_williswith kde4 - the whole cluttered icons on the desktop is slowly being moved away from00:09
Enul132i know this is the kubuntu channel but since i cant seem to get anyones attention in the ubuntu channel i thought i would ask here00:09
matt__Dr_willis: Dr_willis so betweek kde4 and 3.5...which shall i download?00:09
matt__Dr_willis: has 4 improved a lot recently?00:09
Dr_willismatt__,  either one it dont matter.00:09
matt__Dr_willis: is 4 "usable" ??00:09
Dr_willisI installed the kde4 cd. then installed kde 3.500:09
SlimeyPetekde4 is still a bit immature00:10
Dr_willisits useable. but missing a lot of features00:10
* SlimeyPete is waiting a while00:10
matt__SlimeyPete: what i was thinking..00:10
matt__Dr_willis: but do you use it normall00:10
matt__Dr_willis: *normally?00:10
user1how to upgrade from command line if i have the downloaded the iso file? (not burned)00:10
Odd-rationaleuser1: mount the iso00:10
matt__user1: burn it and boot00:10
Odd-rationaleuser1: and follow the directions normally.00:11
matt__user1: sudo umount -o loop /path to iso/ /cdrom/00:11
Odd-rationale /media/cdrom00:11
user1Odd-rationale how to mount00:11
user1matt__ ok.00:11
matt__Dr_willis: Odd-rationale so can you find me how to burn an iso using cdrecord at 4x?00:12
Odd-rationalematt__: did you "man cdrecord"?00:12
stdinooh, ISO mounting, and I've almost completed my KDE4 version of MountFile :)00:12
matt__Odd-rationale: it is very long..but i will...00:12
Dr_willisI dont even have cdrecord installed here. to check its man pages00:13
Dr_willisuse the search feature :)00:13
Dr_willisman cdrecord00:13
Dr_willis / speed00:13
Dr_willisor simniler00:13
user1how to install guest addons for puel version of virtualbox. (i think its must for sharing files/partitions)? or is there any other way to share files?00:14
Odd-rationale!virtualbox | user100:14
ubotuuser1: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:15
user1Odd-rationale i have been there00:15
Odd-rationaleuser1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#head-7aa868356831569a64fb5b4454d8024ec05f46d6 or try #vbox00:17
user1Odd-rationale only ose ver is suported by ubuntu00:18
user1i have puel00:18
Odd-rationaleuser1: linux host, windows guest? or vice versa?00:19
user1ya00:20
user1linux host00:20
Odd-rationaleuser1: you should be able to just start the vm, then in the menubar go to install guest additions00:21
user1not working for me00:21
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user1it doesnt installes00:21
user1 i need the command to install guest additions ?00:21
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thai-sonpass 12345600:22
level1Hi guys00:22
Odd-rationaleuser1: try asking in #vbox00:23
user1no help there. any ways. thx00:23
Odd-rationaleuser1: what version of vbox?00:23
user1puel00:23
user1latest00:23
level1just curious, how does the ubuntu upgrade process work technically?  It seems like it just changes what repositories to use and does the equivelent of "sudo apt-get full-upgrade".  Is there more to it than that?00:24
metalstryker_for a complete noob to Kubuntu, if i have a webcam and plug it in for the first time, what would i do next as far as installing drivers etc.00:33
Dr_willismetalstryker_,  if you are lucky.. nothing.. just plug it in. and run whatever webcam app you like.00:35
PhilRodmetalstryker_: start up kopete, see if it got autodetected00:35
Dr_willisifyou are unlucky. it wont be detected/used/ due to there being no drivers at all for that cam. :(00:35
metalstryker_i started Kopete nothing detected. its a Logitec Quick Cam Pro 9000... which i know other people have used on kubuntu.00:36
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TeslaTonyI disabled a wifi card through KNetwork Manager, but it no longer shows, and I want to re-enable the card00:38
sakiIs there a way to uninstall everything except the Ubuntu core and KDE?00:38
sakiKDE core*00:38
Dr_willissaki,  not very easially.00:38
sakiMeh.00:39
Dr_willisfire up the package manager, start uninstalling..00:39
sakiHehe00:39
sakior save myself the time and just grab the server edition of kubuntu(thats actually all I really want anyways).00:39
TeslaTonyUninstall ubuntu-desktop, and that'll get rid of a bunch of stuff at once00:40
jhutchinsTeslaTony: Um, last I checked, all that will get rid of is the dummy package ubuntu-desktop.00:41
Odd-rationalesaki: this might give you some idea: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome00:41
Dr_willisI was thinking removing ubuntu-desktop would NOT remove much at all. since its just a meta-package00:41
jhutchinsTeslaTony: ubuntu-desktop isn't a real package, it's a fake package that has all of the desktop components as dependencies.  Installing it installs everything, removing it will only remove the dummy package.00:41
Odd-rationalesaki: just run all the remove gnome, kde, xfce commands...00:42
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Odd-rationalehttp://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde00:42
jhutchinsOdd-rationale: There ya go, that's the right one.00:42
jhutchinsOdd-rationale: Ubotu knows it if you ask him.00:42
jhutchins!purekde00:42
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »00:42
sakiThanks.00:45
sakiI was actually trying to make a minimalistic environment actually.00:45
joeyadams!redundancy00:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about redundancy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:46
joeyadams:)00:46
sakiFor webpage testing and as such I don't need 90% of everythign installed.00:46
icesword!purexfce00:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about purexfce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:47
icesword!fvwm00:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fvwm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:47
icesword!info fvwm00:48
ubotufvwm (source: fvwm): F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.21-1 (gutsy), package size 3068 kB, installed size 6664 kB00:48
eduard510hi... how can i look the kde version that i have?00:59
Jucatoeduard510: it's a bit tricky but, normally, right-click on the panel -> Help -> About KDE. if you don't see a Help menu there, it's probably KDE 401:01
level1Hi guys, ssh seems to be improperly configured on the updater.  It doesnt prevent ubuntu from upgrading, it just makes a lot of error messages01:02
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eduard510another thing guys.... when try to compile a .tar.gz when i put ./configure... the system said "./configue doesnt exist a directory"01:05
adudeis there some for program like proshow for kubuntu?01:06
Jucatowhat's proshow?01:06
Jucato!compile | eduard51001:06
ubotueduard510: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)01:06
Dr_willisadude,  dont assume we know the name of very program out there. :)01:06
adudea program to make slideshows with your pictures.01:07
stdinI guess you never typed "slideshow" into adept01:07
Dr_willisa 'dvd' slideshow? or just a screensaver type slideshow?01:08
NickPrestaI know of dvd-slideshow, which creates a DVD video out of pictures.01:08
stdin!info kuickshow01:08
ubotukuickshow (source: kuickshow): KDE image/slideshow viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 473 kB, installed size 936 kB01:08
Jucatoheh that almost got /dev/nulled :)01:08
adudewhat do you mean by a dvd slideshow?01:09
stdina DVD that displays a slideshow on a regular DVD video player01:09
Jucato(maybe) gwenview + kipi-plugins = Plugins -> Tools -> Create MPEG Slideshow01:11
adudeok will check it out01:12
adudeis there any good video editing program01:13
LjLadude: stopmotion, blender, lives, openmovieeditor, cinerella, avidemux, jahshaka  —  GNOME: pitivi, kino  —  KDE: kdenlive  —  console: avidemux-cli01:13
adudethanks01:13
Jucatohm.. blender? video editing?01:14
adudeLjL, does the avidemux support .mov?01:17
LjLno clue01:17
LjLJucato: they tell me it can be used as a video editor. it's bestbot, free for people to add to it, don't ask me :)01:17
adudeguess i have to figure that out myself. :)01:17
LjLbut no really, there seems to be some sort of non-linear video editing function in blender, according to the interwebs.01:18
Dr_willisavidemux can do a lot of things..01:21
Dr_willisand the price is right. :) its worth learning about in any case01:21
dekKaffeine doesn't play a mkv file with x264 video and AC3 audio. When I load it it runs choppy and never starts playing. VLC plays that file fine. Any idea what could be wrong?01:23
andycrHow do you tell KDE to get rid of the annoying little gap between the edge of window contents and the side of the screen on maximized windows?01:24
aaroncampbellWhat is the most RAM that Kubuntu can properly use?01:24
Dr_willisI tend to use vlc, or gmolayer for my mkv's they just seem to play them better.. same with the x264 codec videos ive had..01:24
stdin32bit or 64bit?01:24
aaroncampbell3201:24
stdin3.2GB iirc01:24
Dr_williskaffeine just.. well.. dosent work too well for me with many of my videos01:25
dekDr_willis: so I cannot use any player that uses xine?01:25
aaroncampbellMy system has 4G, maxes out at 8, but my employer gave me 4 more...didn't know if I should put it in this system or another one01:25
stdinthere may be some kernel tweaks that let you use more, but at performance cost01:25
Dr_willisdek,  no idea. try them and see.01:25
aaroncampbellstdin: so you're saying it's not even using the 4 I have in there?01:25
Dr_willisdek,  ive been exploring the different players over the last month.. and im sticking with mplayer for the forseable future. :)01:25
stdinaaroncampbell: use "free -m" too see how much it sees in MB01:26
andycraaroncampbell: What kind of programs are you running that would use that much? At any rate, no, it's not likely to be using all of the 4GB you have at the moment. 32-bit pointers can address about 4GB, but realistically it's a bit less01:26
stdinor see "MemTotal:" in /proc/meminfo for KB :p01:26
dekDr_willis: I have to compile it myself?01:26
andycrIf you really use that much, you can switch to the 64-bit version - I don't remember what it maxes out at, but it's about 600 times what any modern computer has01:27
aaroncampbellandycr: I have a lot of virtual machines that I run using VMWare, sometimes as many as 3 or 4 at a time01:27
dekDr_willis: i have heard good things about mplayer, but never tried it yet since Kaffeine worked just fine01:27
Dr_willisI just use the mplayer versions in the medibuntu repos01:28
aaroncampbellWhen those VMs need to be windows, and run crappy on 512, it's nice to be able to give each 768-1024M01:28
Dr_willisI have a lot of  videos that need some of the extra features01:28
stdin64bit systems can theoretically handle up to 17179869184GB RAM01:28
dekDr_willis: ok, downloading :P01:28
stdinjust FYi ;)01:28
andycrI would switch to 64-bit in your case01:28
andycrAssuming your drivers, etc. work there01:29
aaroncampbellThanks01:29
Dr_willisi do tend to use 'geexbox' to watch a lot of videos also. a fast booting livecd thats also installable.01:30
indystormso hey what is a very simple and easy to read tutorial on ubuntu?01:39
indystormI want to install an aim client and am having difficulties---- have you heard of instant bird?01:39
stdinkopete is pre0installed on kubuntu, it does aim, yim, msn, jabber.....etc01:40
stdin*pre-installed01:40
indystormyeah kopete sucks- I don't like it- it's asking me to import all my contacts- they are server based and it should load it automatically!01:46
stdin!documentation01:47
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com01:47
stdintry one of those then01:47
carlos_hi01:47
indystormI downloaded instantbird.... but it won't install01:48
carlos_i need some help with my laptop's webcam01:48
indystormthere is no exe file to load!01:48
NickPrestaindystorm, i just signed in to my aim account on Kopete for the first time ever. It loaded up all my contacts. You should have had your contacts loaded too.01:49
carlos_it is a Ali Corp webcam01:49
carlos_has anybody solved a problem like this one? please01:50
NickPrestacarlos_, solved a problem like what? You haven't explained your problem...01:50
carlos_tks, my webcam is a Ali Corp but i can't find the way to use it01:51
carlos_i'm using kubuntu 7.1001:52
NickPresta!webcam | carlos_01:52
ubotucarlos_: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:52
carlos_i'll chek it01:53
* NickPresta passes genii a coffee01:54
geniiNickPresta: Thanks I needed it!01:54
NickPresta:)01:54
geniiAny outstanding issues?02:13
MrResettiHello02:16
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MrResettiI am a Kubuntu newbie and I need some assistance, please :)02:17
Dr_willis'please state the nature of the kubuntu emergancy'02:17
Dr_willis:)02:17
MrResettiWell, i cant say its an emergency, but here it goes02:17
geniiMrResetti: If you could be perhaps a bit more specific of the help you require02:17
geniiDr_willis: Hehe02:18
MrResettiI have just gotten Kubuntu by a torrent, and mounted the ISO through Alcohol02:18
MrResettiafter booting and everything, i reset the computer and gives me two options: Windows or Ubuntu02:18
MrResettiWhen I choose Ubuntu, it takes about 3-5 minutes to load02:19
MrResettiand when the loading is complete, it takes me to a DOS-type menu, which I have a fear of. I don't think this is natural.02:19
geniiYou cannot install from inside a cd emulator like alcohol. You need to boot the cdrom and install this way02:20
MrResettiOh :\02:20
MrResettiWell, is this a regular problem when it IS mounted to an emulator?02:21
Dr_willisI cant think of why you would WANT to mount it in an emulator.02:23
Dr_willisunless perhaps to do a wubi install.02:23
* MrResetti would like to remind everyone here he is a newbie at this02:23
MrResetti^_^02:23
Dr_willisMrResetti,  You are doing a lot of weirdness for being a newbie. Im assuming you did the 'install ubuntu under windows with wubi' type install.02:24
Dr_willisNormally one burns the iso to cd.. boots the cd. and does the installer to a seperate partition/hard drive02:24
MrResettii see02:24
MrResettiwell, im not a total noob when it comes to computers, but I dont do ISO-mountings or the sorts often02:25
Dr_willisthe dostype menu - is MOST lieikly the bash shell.login: of ubuntu, which is starting up . because wubi dident configure your Video card properly.02:25
MrResettiah02:25
MrResettiso, I should uninstall Kubuntu and reinstall it using a burned CD or DVD?02:25
Dr_willisI dont mess with Wubi at all.  I always install linux to its own hard drive or partition.02:25
Dr_willisif theres a 'uninstall' icon in the windows menus, or add/remove program files - you are DEFINATLY doing wubu02:26
Dr_willisWubi. :)02:26
MrResettiwell...another thing is when I boot from Windows, it tells me that Kubuntu is 'already installed' and asks me if i want to uninstall02:26
Dr_willisbe sure to burn the iso to cd as an image file. not as a data file.02:26
MrResettiso I guess i did f--- up Wubi02:27
MrResettiok, can i use a DVD-RW?02:27
Dr_willisI dont use/or even WANT to touch wubi. its an annoyance.02:27
Dr_willisIve never had luckburning a cd iso to a dvd disk02:27
Dr_willisThers alternative ways to install .02:27
Dr_willis!install02:27
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate02:27
MrResettiwell, its 4gb big so02:27
Dr_willisYou downloaded the DVD image?02:27
MrResetti.......yes :|02:27
Dr_willisYou really dident need to do that either. :) the 700mb cd image installs very well02:28
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* MrResetti bashes head for being such a noob02:28
MrResettiwell, i uninstalled Ubuntu (that was on the list of add/remove programs)02:28
Dr_willisI if you have the dvd image.. burn it to dvd disk i guess02:28
MrResettiok, ill do that, thank you02:29
Dr_willisIf using visata you may want to resize/scandisk/defrag your existing windows isntall.. depending onyour hard drive size./layout02:29
MrResettiI have Windows XP Home Edition SP202:29
* MrResetti won't touch Vista after a bad experience02:29
Dr_willisdefarg/scandisk. and the ubuntu installer can resize the partitions.02:29
Dr_willisyou have just the 1 hard drive?02:29
MrResettii have two, but one of them is for recovery02:30
MrResetti(so yes, one hard drive)02:30
Dr_willisWe are talking hard DRIVES here..not just drive letters... C: and D: can be on the same drive...02:30
MrResettioh, well im sure i only have one02:30
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dwidmannI'd ask in #ubuntu+1, but seeing as I like it better in here and they're all worshipers of some fancy lawn decoration called GNOME in there, I think I'll ask here. I'm running Hardy, and after booting up this afternoon I've been unable to get Katapult to start. Well, it runs, there's a process id in ps output, but it's not really running (ie: no alt+space goodness, no bubble saying it's running, etc)02:31
KetrelWho was helping me before with Compiz messing with KDE's Alt+Tab?02:31
Dr_willisdwidmann,  its running here. i just tried it..02:31
Dr_willisdwidmann,  i am doing some updates right now however02:31
dwidmannDr_willis: I'm fully updated, I don't know why it won't start :\02:32
dwidmannor work, rather, it starts (kind of), but doesn't work02:32
iss_studentCan anybody direct me to where I can find info on moving the icons around on the taskbar in kde4?02:32
Dr_willisiss_student,  kde4 is lacking  in many of the basic features like that. :(02:33
Dr_willisto move some applets i had to remove them, then from the add applet window, drag/drop them to the proper place02:33
sparrevery time i hear "kde4" i remember the abomination that is Dolphin and how scared I was when my I got surprised by it02:34
Dr_willisI basicially removed dolphin02:35
sparrditto02:35
sparri thought someone had horribly broken konqueror02:35
Dr_willissparr,  thats still true. :)02:36
jeismain the terminal, suppose i want to see the source code of a file02:38
jeismain the terminal02:39
jeismais there a command for that?02:39
jeismawithout having to open a separate program like kate to see it02:39
Dr_williscat filename02:39
Dr_willisthat shows the CONTENTS of a file02:39
jeismaDr_willis THANK YOU that's exactly what i wanted02:40
dwidmannYes and no, it's nice in one way at least that I can see, well, maybe even two - first, the file management part of konq and dolphin is one and the same, (no doubled work) - so at least anything that helps dolphin will also help konq, second is that you could give it a seperate home address (of course, you could use seperate profiles with konq to accomplish that ...)02:40
iss_studentI can't find network manager in KDE4 lol. Glad I can switch back to 3.5.902:40
dwidmanniss_student: to productively use kde4 at all you'll have to mix in kde3 apps on an as needed basis02:40
jeismaanyone know how to copy one directory to another?02:42
jeismausing the cp command im guessing?02:42
Dr_willisjeisma,  you might want to track down a few BASH/Shell tutorials.....02:42
Dr_williscp -R I belive is what you want for recursive02:42
Dr_willisor just install 'mc' and use it. :)02:42
jeismacp -R will do what?02:42
jeismamove an entire folder to another?02:42
Dr_willistry it and see. :)02:45
Dr_williscp -R bin  bin_backup02:46
jeismaDr_willis so i typed this in cp -R mvc ~/Destop02:48
jeismamvc is the folder i wanted to copy from there to the desktop02:48
Dr_willisYou just made a Directory called Destop02:48
jeismaand it said it couldn't open about 5 files02:48
jeismaah i spelled it right in the terminal02:48
Dr_willisI did  cp -R bin  bin_backup , and it cloned the bin dir, into a dir with the name of bin_backup02:49
Dr_willisYou want to give it a name to copy to i imagine02:49
roothttps:shipit.kubunto,org02:49
jeismai was hoping it would copy mvc (the 2nd argument and the folder that i want to copy) into the desktop02:50
Dat1Hello, Ubuntu room is too full to be usefull, but:  my Ubuntu system has all locked up...is there any debug info I can get from it that might be useful?02:50
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, ask in #ubuntu02:51
Dat1lol02:51
Daisuke_Laptopactually, i don't know02:51
Dat1alot of good that will do02:51
Dat1humm02:51
Dat1ok02:51
Daisuke_Laptopand just because it looks full doesn't mean it is02:51
Daisuke_Laptopit can be silent in there with 1100 people or more :)02:51
Dr_willissee if you can ssh in, and see what the /var/logs say02:51
bragoo08Q: is it worth installing anti-virus on Kubuntu?02:51
Dr_willisoften a 'full lockup' is the video drivers crashing.02:52
Daisuke_Laptopbragoo08: right now i'm going to say no, UNLESS.02:52
Dr_willisbragoo08,  I dont think so - Unless you want to scan your windows system from ubuntu02:52
KetrelHow can I stop the moniter from turning of after X time? I already did it in power management :\02:52
Dat1well I asked twice...nothing....and definitely not silent02:52
Daisuke_Laptopunless you send a lot of email (attachments and such) to windows users (forwards are notorious)02:52
bragoo08I thought as much. tnx02:52
Daisuke_Laptopprotect your windows-using friends02:52
Dr_willisDat1,  ssh  is handy for that kind of trouble shooting.02:53
Daisuke_Laptopwait, on second thought, don't, that'll be incentive to switch :D02:53
Dr_willisDat1,  alt-ctrl-backspace and alt-ctrl-delete wont even wake it up eh?02:53
Dat1Dr_willis, hold on I'm working though VNC so I'll try and bb in one sec02:54
m2geekHello Room :)02:55
m2geekQuestion; when trying to install KDE4, what packages do i need to select in Synaptic (i'm using gnome atm)02:56
Dat1Dr_willis, strange, when I get to it directly its working fine, when I come back to VNC, its working fine  :)02:56
Dr_willisDat1,  so... err.. its working.. :)02:57
Dr_willisno problem! its fixed!02:57
Dat1Dr_willis, its a workin  xD02:57
Dat1yes, thanks02:57
* Dr_willis sends Dat1 a bill.02:57
* Dat1 puts a check in the mail02:58
Dat1Dr_willis, the checks in the mail  ;)02:58
dwidmannDr_willis: well, I found out why katapult wouldn't start, it's odd though02:58
dwidmannDr_willis: in fact, it wouldn't start because amarok wouldn't start, and now I'm working on figuring out why it won't ....03:00
* bragoo08 asks, what exactly does katapult do?03:01
dwidmannbragoo08: starts apps, opens documents/files/music/etc, it's also a calculator, other things too03:02
Dat1Is the KDE desktop less cpu intensive, or just more dynamic?03:02
dwidmannDat1: than what?03:03
Dat1ubuntu...gnome03:03
dwidmannDat1: probably about the same .... certainly seems more dynamic though03:03
Dat1dwidmann, ok thanks probably will go with Kubuntu once ubuntu 7.10 is outdated  ;)03:04
dwidmannDat1: next week huh?03:05
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Dat1dwidmann, should probably have said when it is unsupported03:05
Dat1with updates and such03:05
Dat1anyways thx for the info and help03:06
dwidmannah, next year then?03:06
lab34y a t il des gens ui parle fancais ici et c quoi le sujet du chat03:07
epimeth!fr | lab3403:08
ubotulab34: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:08
bragoo08part03:17
rickeyi need to understand about  kubuntu710 download, this is the question! wen the download and update is finished should i be able to go to amaork and BMPx and play radio station at that point or will i need to download other programs?03:23
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JBlovlossThe head of my cs department claimed today that you cant do inline assembly in c++ except in Windows using Visual Studio03:24
dwidmannJBlovloss: is he correct or full of it?03:27
JBlovlossdwidmann: Full of it...03:28
dwidmannthought so03:28
JBlovlossYou can inline assembly with g++ easily03:29
dwidmannI trust you corrected him? :D03:29
KetrelHmmmm, any reason why having python-sexy installed would interfere with guidence power manager03:29
JBlovlosswe printed out a how to guide on doing it in unix and put it in his mailbox ;)03:29
dwidmannexcellent03:29
JBlovlossxD03:30
arkaniadHey! i have a testimony!03:30
JBlovlossBut the guy insults linux a lot03:30
JBlovloss"lots of people say you should use linux or whatever... i just use what works"03:30
JBlovlossi hate that guy03:30
arkaniadI have been using Ubuntu Gnome for as long as i have been using linux03:30
JBlovlosstell us arkaniad03:30
arkaniadand i finally got Kubuntu-Desktop Apt-got over Dapper Drake!03:30
arkaniadand i have to say03:31
arkaniadit is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Gnome03:31
dwidmannPeople, especially hapless microsoft followers, fear what they don't understand.03:31
JBlovlossarkaniad: I could have told you that. gnome is feature-free03:31
arkaniadlol03:31
dwidmannarkaniad: heck yeah03:31
JBlovlossdwidmann: Amen03:31
arkaniadbut03:31
arkaniadGnome is fine, i just totally prefer KDE03:31
Daisuke_Laptopfeature-free?  you mean not overloaded with panel after panel of useless configurations?03:32
arkaniadlol!03:32
JBlovlossConfigurations are never useless :)03:32
alucardromeroI use KDE.03:32
JBlovlossi play rpgs ;D03:32
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: s/useless/useful/03:32
alucardromero:)03:32
KetrelKDE may have too many features, but GNOME doesn't have enough.03:32
arkaniadGnome is just so Slow!!!!!!!!!!!!! on my dell inspiron with 256 ram and 366 mhz proscessor03:32
Daisuke_Laptopdwidmann: don't interrupt me when i'm playing devil's advocate!03:32
arkaniadlol03:32
KetrelFortunately if it has too many, you can just ignore the ones you don't like :p03:32
arkaniadwhat the heck is a dir doing03:33
arkaniad\etc\bin?03:33
JBlovlossIm a configur-holic. My computer has to be soooooooooooooooo personalized03:33
dwidmannarkaniad: I could see just about anything being slow on that.03:33
Daisuke_Laptopactually, i've found gnome has enough for me (well, i got rid of the panels entirely)03:33
arkaniadwell03:33
arkaniadkde isnt that bad03:33
arkaniadi just dont want my win-gaming rig with linux on it03:33
alucardromeroKDE takes up less resources, que no?03:33
JBlovlossKDE happens to have a lot of better programs standard too. Konqueror > Nautilus.03:34
Daisuke_Laptopalucardromero: no03:34
Daisuke_Laptopit's about even either way03:34
arkaniadKonquerer FTW03:34
alucardromeroGnome/03:34
alucardromeroOh okay.03:34
JBlovloss*hugs Konqueror*03:34
JBlovlossway better for sorting through po.... through files.03:34
Daisuke_Laptopkonqueror as a file browser beats nautilus hands down03:34
alucardromerolol03:34
arkaniadi have a powerbook G4 running OSX (LINUX ANYONE>>>)03:34
Daisuke_LaptopJBlovloss: thumbnail tooltips, eh?03:35
redmoongrrr... is there a way to get frostwire to work... ?03:35
Daisuke_Laptopredmoon: yeah, stop being a dirty pirate :)03:35
arkaniadW.I.N.E.?03:35
alucardromeroLMAO03:35
JBlovlossDaisuke_Laptop: Heck. Yeah.03:35
redmoonDirty pirate?03:35
arkaniadlol03:35
JBlovlossThe thumbnails and such on nautilus are epic fail03:35
arkaniadpirates arent nice03:35
arkaniadFAIL03:35
arkaniadlol03:35
Daisuke_Laptopnot the smily face, redmoon03:35
JBlovlosswe're not?03:35
redmoonwha?03:35
redmoon<------------- confused.............03:35
Daisuke_Laptopnote* smiley*03:36
arkaniadlol03:36
JBlovloss*frowns and looks at all his PSX roms*03:36
Daisuke_Laptopmy e apparently went on vacation03:36
redmoonOk so .... Can someone tell me how to get this to work?... i installed it for this operating system.. and run it... but nothing happens =/03:36
arkaniad?03:36
Daisuke_Laptopdid you install it from the repositories?03:36
arkaniadmore details03:36
Daisuke_Laptopor did you download it from their website?03:36
arkaniadwhat program03:36
Daisuke_Laptopi'm guessing frostwire03:36
arkaniadlol03:36
arkaniadsource is tricky03:37
arkaniadis it source?03:37
everett#join03:37
Daisuke_Laptoparkaniad: yeah, especially since frostwire's java03:37
arkaniadis it source or .deb03:37
JBlovlossJust so you guys know, im drinking alcohal and thus, i love you guys03:37
JBlovloss<303:37
arkaniadohhhhhhhhhhh, ouch03:37
arkaniadyou need a Java Compiler03:37
redmoonrepositories?... no? this is what i did... I went to the frostwire chat... clicked downloads.. hit the operating system.. ( linux ) and a thing popped up? i hit open and something was installed or w/e onto the desktop.... i opened it... and installed it or w/e... and run it.. but it says loading application.. but nothing pops up =/03:37
Daisuke_Laptopredmoon: almost every step of that was wrong03:37
arkaniadlol03:37
redmoonWell im sorry?03:37
dwidmannarkaniad: no, a java runtime03:38
Daisuke_Laptoptry this: sudo apt-get install frostwire03:38
redmoon!@_@03:38
arkaniadlol03:38
dwidmannprobably03:38
JBlovlossI just failed to get the Google Summer of Code job, so im drowning my pain03:38
Daisuke_Laptopredmoon: not all your fault03:38
redmoontechnically yeah it is lol @_@03:38
redmoonwell wait no >.> nvm.. its not my fault..b/c my dad installed it >..03:38
arkaniadKopete beats Pidgin. Anyone??? Anyone????03:38
redmooni blame him lol03:38
arkaniadbad dad03:38
redmoonlol03:38
arkaniadtime-out03:38
redmoonOk... so what should i do to get this running then? =/03:38
Daisuke_Laptopi think it's just a matter of what people are used to when moving from an OS that's entirely decentralized when it comes to software, to one that's mostly centralized03:38
JBlovlossPidgin's bad at file transfers03:39
* dthacker refuses to participate in irc client discussions.03:39
Daisuke_LaptopJBlovloss: at least pidgin can handle file transfers.03:39
arkaniadPidgin is annoyingly under-featured03:39
redmoonSomeone said something about java compiler.. and someone else said something about.... w/e it was03:39
arkaniadimho03:39
redmoonim confused now lol03:39
JBlovlossSo can meebo ^_^03:39
arkaniadok03:39
dthacker!offtopic03:39
arkaniadso what does the downloaded file look like03:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:39
Daisuke_Laptoparkaniad: nooo, you want him installing from the repos03:40
arkaniadok03:40
arkaniadlol03:40
redmoonrepos?03:40
arkaniadrepositories03:40
dwidmannughhh, I can't get amarok to start at all :(03:40
dthackerrepository03:40
redmoonwhere is that.... god i feel stupid.. im like.. computer illiterate03:40
Daisuke_Laptopredmoon: open adept manager and search for frostwire03:40
* dwidmann thinks of grabbing the source03:40
arkaniadsource rules IMHO03:40
redmoonI did but nothing came up =o the only thing that pops up is 1 thing of Frostwire.. and it says installed already03:40
redmoon=/03:40
Daisuke_Laptopdwidmann: don't tell me you installed that hacked-up 1.4.703:40
* dthacker looks a dwidmann incredulously03:41
arkaniadtype this in terminal/konsole03:41
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: no, I installed that hacked up 1.4.9.103:41
Daisuke_Laptopredmoon: search for sun-java6-jre03:41
JBlovloss*glomps you all*03:41
JBlovloss<303:41
arkaniadps aux | grep frostwire03:41
arkaniadpost results03:41
JBlovlossDaisuke, if you change your last letter to an 'i', you're "daisuki"l, which is like "beloved :)03:41
dwidmannHmm, I suppose a reboot couldn't hurt, I'll try that before I get drastic03:42
JBlovlossdaisuki na kimi ga kirei desu yo.....03:42
arkaniadredmoon03:42
redmoonsearch that in the adept manager or the terminal03:42
redmoonim really confused03:42
arkaniaddid you try that command?03:42
redmoonCurses for computer illiteracy03:42
redmoon@_@03:42
BluesKajI'd like to backup all my kmail/kontact settings so when I do a clean install of Hardy, I can just plug in all the settings from saved file .Which file is the one I need to save ?03:42
arkaniadin terminal or konsole, type ps aux | grep frostwire03:43
redmoonok....03:43
redmoonahm03:43
arkaniadredmoon03:44
redmoon.says something... about 800 pts...... =/03:44
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arkaniadlol03:44
arkaniadafter your username there is a number03:44
AhmuckBluesKaj: ".kde/share/apps/kontact03:44
arkaniadand is it running?03:44
arkaniadlike is there something like03:44
arkaniadarkaniad 09824 blah blah blah grep frostwire?03:44
arkaniadlike that?03:45
redmoonredmoon   5508  0.0  0.0   2876   800 pts/1    S+   20:43   0:00 grep frostwire03:45
redmoonthats what it says...03:45
redmoon=/03:45
arkaniadit is running.03:45
redmoonbut.. i cant get it open .. onto my screen... i cant access anything... it doesnt say frostwire is open03:45
JBlovlossk sleepy time03:45
arkaniadbut i dont think you have the java runtime03:45
arkaniadtype kill 550803:45
redmoonNo i dont think i have java runtime03:45
arkaniadto kill it for a sec03:45
redmoonok it says.. something about kill.. no such process blah blah03:46
arkaniadargh03:46
viciohey everyone!03:46
arkaniadwell, i have to go.03:46
arkaniadi am sorry03:46
redmoonsnap o.o03:46
dwidmannThat's really odd, I really didn't expect a reboot to make things magically work again ....03:46
arkaniademail me arkaniad@gmail.com03:46
viciohow you guys like Ubuntu?03:46
redmoonok03:47
vicioanybody out there?03:47
arkaniadubuntu kubuntu FTW03:47
arkaniadkubuntu better03:47
vicioi have Kubuntu :D03:47
arkaniadg2g03:47
arkaniadbe on tomorrow03:47
viciobye arkanaid03:47
dwidmannvicio: Ubuntu the generalized distribution or the results of installing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?03:47
* epimeth loves ubuntu03:47
viciojeje, can u believe? im fixing my dads computer03:48
* epimeth loves kubuntu-desktop package especially03:48
vicioi told him, u dont need any antiviruses, firewalls or antispywares installed03:48
* epimeth really loves speaking in the thrid person03:48
viciojust intall Linux :D03:48
BluesKajAhmuck, unable to locate .kde/share/apps/kontact :(03:49
Ze_MRiddell: do you know about an app KDM Theme Designer in kde4?03:50
redmoonoh snap.. this is confusing.. hopefully i figure this out.. in time.. with additional help03:51
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matthew_How can I get the header files, dev stuff.. for libs in  kubuntu?03:54
matthew_for example, I need to compile software that uses ncurses03:54
matthew_how can i find and install the package that has curses.h in it?03:56
matthew_apt-cache search doesn't seem to show any freaking header files, much less sources...03:59
mkbxkrk!tell me about !icons04:02
tomhey04:03
tomany one?04:05
epimethyo04:07
draikHello all04:09
epimethmatthew_: apt-cache search linux-headers-04:09
draikIs there a way for me to use SSH to mount something remotely?04:09
tomhmmmm04:09
draikMy desktop has a DVD iso. I do not want to burn it, just mount it from my laptop so that I can watch it04:10
epimethdraik: http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/1304:10
epimethdraik: oh... you want to mount a dvd over ssh?  that I don't know about04:11
epimethdraik: did you try google, btw?04:11
draikI did, but nothing successful04:11
epimethdraik: theoretically its possible, since apple has something that does it... but I don't know how sorry04:15
epimethtom: you need something?04:16
draikepimeth: It's ok. You've helped04:16
epimethdraik: how so?  let me know what you did so I know how to do it!!! :-)04:16
tomim good ty04:16
draikepimeth: You've helped by pointing me in a better direction. I found some more keywords that I'm going to play with on Google04:17
epimethcool04:17
arkaniadHAI2U EVERYBODY im back!04:21
gkffjcsAny know the directory of kde install tree, I thought it was /usr/lib/kde3, but that doesn't seem to be right.04:21
arkaniadit could be kde4 depending on your version.04:22
arkaniadanyone need help compiling source code?04:22
epimetharkaniad: matthew_ did, but he seems to be gone04:23
arkaniadok...04:23
arkaniadno hes in here, maybe just lurking...04:23
gkffjcsThis might be a more direct question to ask, does any know a guide or documentation of any kind on how to make an actual kde theme? Not just change colors.04:24
arkaniadno clue...04:24
arkaniadKDE-look.org???????04:24
arkaniadmaybe???04:24
arkaniadanyone here need help?04:25
gkffjcsI keep going there, they have lots of themes and stuff, but Ide like to create my own, if possible, and I cannot seem to find any form of howto or general documentation.04:25
arkaniadhumm....04:25
arkaniadlemme g00gle :D04:25
arkaniadomg i love my setup04:26
arkaniadi installed ubuntu Dapper, then apt-got kde! it seems as if ubuntu was never there, it is like i installed from the Kubuntu CD!!!!04:27
arkaniadhow is that???04:27
arkaniadpretty cool, huh?04:27
sgroverarkaniad: first - dapper is OLD.  Second - Ubuntu is the underlying distribution.  KDE and Gnome are different desktops on the same platform.. :)04:28
arkaniadlol i know04:28
sgroverSo... ubuntu has always been there... just a new coat of paint.. :)04:28
arkaniadi am planning to upgrade to 7.10 soon04:29
sgrovergive it a week - 8.04 will be out.04:29
arkaniadstill cooler than sour cream :D04:29
arkaniadm laptop prolly wont run 8.0404:29
arkaniadbut i am getting shipit cd's of Kubuntu and Ubuntu04:29
arkaniadtotally04:29
sgroverFrom what I'm hearing, 8.04 will have better support for most wireless cards04:29
arkaniadwhat about usb adapters???04:30
sgroverhehe.. faster to just download the ISO....04:30
arkaniadi dont have any cd-rw's04:30
arkaniadand i am not really in any hurry04:30
sgroverI've never had a problem with USB - except within a VMWare machine....04:30
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arkaniadgkffjcs: what version of KDE do you have04:31
sgroverYou can also put that ISO to a usb stick and install from there... so I've heard - yet to do that though...04:31
arkaniadyeah, i did that with DSL04:31
arkaniadit was tricky04:31
sgrovernot install TO the stick, but FROM the stick04:31
sgroverit's supposedly possible to treat your stick as a type of CD drive.. :)04:32
arkaniadyeah, but on a laptop with no usb-boot in bios....04:32
arkaniadugh04:32
sgroverahhh... well, that's a hardware issue then.. :)04:32
arkaniadit is a pain in the arse04:32
arkaniadwell, its a 1999-er04:32
gkffjcsI have both, but I really want to alter kde3 to match the default of kde4, I havn't found any premade that do that online.04:33
arkaniadi hear you can get modified knoppix floppys with usb support to boot usb's04:33
arkaniadwell, i searched how to kake KDE themes, and it only whows for older <2.0??04:34
arkaniadsgrover, is it possible to install ubuntu on a laptop with no bootable cd drive one usb drive and a floppy?04:35
arkaniadah g2g04:35
arkaniadcya04:35
sgroversure04:35
rickeymy adept manger has locked up , what is the sudo command to unlock it04:38
yao_ziyuanafter upgrading to kubuntu 8.04 beta, vbox says: VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).04:39
neville_yao_ziyuan reinstall it, or, recompile it if you built it from source04:40
arkaniadBreakthrough!!!!04:45
arkaniadok04:45
arkaniadwhos here that i can ask something04:46
arkaniadquick04:46
arkaniadanyone?04:46
arkaniadhe-llo????????????/04:46
rickeyi am here04:47
arkaniadok04:47
rickey but i dont think your going to get any help04:47
rickey i have been trying to no aveil04:47
arkaniadif i did the apt-get upgrade to upgrade through the chain of releases (lalalalalaaaaaaaaaAA) would my drivers and settings stay the same?04:47
arkaniadim on dapper04:47
arkaniadOr04:47
rickeyi think so04:48
arkaniadif there are drivers on the dapper disk for something i have, would it be on the gutsy disk?04:48
rickey the new up grade will save them and use them i think04:48
arkaniadsweetness04:48
rickey my adept manger has locked up , what is the sudo command to unlock it04:49
arkaniadi would have to go like 6.06 to .10 and 7.04 to.1, lalalala04:49
arkaniadhmm04:49
rickeydo you know the anwser to that?04:49
brian_Hey All04:49
arkaniadhmm04:49
brian_Just force quit and then restart it04:49
arkaniadyou could use the konsole version04:49
rickeyi did04:50
miguel_helo04:50
brian_What are you trying to install?04:50
rickey it wont reset04:50
arkaniadkonsole type xkill then click on the window04:50
rickeyill tr4y04:50
arkaniador04:50
arkaniadif that dont work tell me04:50
brian_Hey arkaniad, do you know anything about installing themes04:51
arkaniadin kde? not a clue.04:51
brian_You using gnome?04:51
arkaniadno, i just switched :D04:51
arkaniadtoday in fact04:51
brian_Ahaha, i think KDE runs faster that gnome, do you pentest?04:52
arkaniadeh, a bit04:52
brian_Backtrack?04:52
arkaniadit is hard to see the difference on a PII04:52
arkaniadwith 256 mb ram04:52
brian_PII?04:52
arkaniadjust my old scre around laptop04:52
arkaniadpentium 204:52
brian_Ohhh lol xD, that sucks, are you a windows fan >04:53
arkaniadYelp! Konsole Disappeared!04:53
arkaniadno, i just have a lot of win games on my desktop. otherwise i have a PBG4 running OSX04:53
arkaniadrickey, hows it goin04:54
neville_Hackintosh?04:54
arkaniadnoper04:54
arkaniadits a PowerBook G404:54
neville_Ahh -_-v04:54
arkaniadrunning leo04:54
arkaniadno, i dont have any C2D,s04:54
brian_Yeah same as me, i got a sucky emachine, amd, and a acer 3000, my emachine is dual triple booting xp, kubuntu, and ubunty04:54
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arkaniadnice!04:54
arkaniadi apt-got kde over ubuntu04:55
arkaniadit seems like ubuntu aint there, just kubuntu04:55
brian_You can do that ? wow04:55
arkaniadyeah04:55
arkaniadyou can do it vice versa too04:55
arkaniadif in ubuntu you want kubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:55
brian_Ok can i ask you a question you seem to know a bit about Nix04:55
arkaniadsure!04:56
arkaniadwhat is thy asking04:56
arkaniadmust be a biggun'!04:57
brian_Alright i wanted to add Backtrack 3 to my booting, everything goes fine, i add a new partion, install backtrack 3, but when i go to boot, it boots lilo, backtrack wil boot along with kubuntu and ubuntu, but if it wont but windows04:57
arkaniadeh04:57
arkaniadWhats Backtrack :)04:57
arkaniadim not much of a multibooter04:58
brian_Its a distro if linux for pentesting, hang ion ill get you the wiki04:58
arkaniadk04:58
arkaniadseems like you cant quad boot with LiLo04:58
arkaniadand, why Lilo? why not grub?04:59
brian_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackTrack04:59
arkaniadk04:59
arkaniadargh, im gonna go to bed soon04:59
arkaniadbut ill se if i can find whats wrong04:59
brian_Well when you install backtrack, lilo over writes grub, i installed grub, but im not to good with .conf files04:59
brian_alright thanks05:00
arkaniadoh haha05:00
brian_brianW123@live.com05:00
brian_email me if you figure something out =]05:00
arkaniadarkaniad@gmail.com05:00
brian_much appreciation05:00
arkaniadim not going yet :)05:00
brian_Ohh haha, yeah so how long you been using linux?05:00
arkaniaduh 2-3 years05:00
arkaniadwell05:00
arkaniadthats how long ago i got it05:01
arkaniadlol05:01
arkaniadmaybe use it 1/13 of that time05:01
brian_Ahaha, i have had windows forever, Linux is the best for sure!!05:01
arkaniadcause my internet eadapter was screwing it up so i stopped for a while05:01
arkaniadsame05:01
epimethbrian_: why don't you just reinstall ubuntu so that grub will override lilo?  it will probably automatically add your backtrack partition as a boot option as well05:01
arkaniadi still have a dedicated win gamin machine05:01
arkaniadbacktrack looks cool :D05:02
neville_Have you tried Wine lately arkaniad?05:02
brian_Yeah i tryed that to, but when i boot backtrack, i get a kernel sync error, cant mount root onto something05:02
neville_It works for every game of mine perfectly :D05:02
arkaniadyes neville05:02
arkaniadhorrible gameplay05:02
arkaniadfor me05:02
arkaniadand i cant play GH305:02
arkaniadfor PC05:02
arkaniadstarcraft didnt even work05:03
brian_Any suggestions epimeth?05:03
neville_Starcraft works great :/05:03
arkaniadSTARCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on a P4!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:03
arkaniadfor me05:03
arkaniadi mean u05:03
arkaniadwell,05:03
arkaniadmaybe i should try someto=ine05:03
arkaniadmustve had a bogie05:03
neville_hehe05:03
brian_Whats wine05:03
Jucato!offtopic05:03
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:03
arkaniadmeh, for now, the win stays05:04
arkaniadsorry ubotu!!!!!!!!!05:04
RoeyJucato:  whoah how can you multichat like that05:04
Jucato!wine | brian_05:04
ubotubrian_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.05:04
epimethbrian_: that *was* my suggestion :-)05:04
JucatoRoey: I practice :)05:04
Roey:)05:04
arkaniad!wine | brian_05:04
epimethbrian_: have you tried asking backtrack's help?05:04
arkaniadlol05:04
brian_Yeah, i have searched every forum i can, no help05:05
arkaniadomg, im getting tired05:05
brian_when i get my lap top fixed, i think im just going to format the whole drive xD05:05
arkaniadwhose heard of fallon worldwide05:05
epimethbrian_: how about grub?  you tried asking them?05:06
arkaniadhes using Lilo05:06
arkaniadguys, im tired, cya05:06
brian_Thanks for the help !05:07
brian_And epimeth,05:07
brian_Yeah i seached there 2, but my computer is dying from me trying so much, i have 7 diffrent partions, and a bunch of junk05:08
epimethbrian_: you can also try installing grub on its own partition, and load it from lilo05:08
epimeththat way, you get 2 options (backtrack and grub-partition) in lilo, and the rest in grub05:09
brian_Hm, sounds like it might work, could you set me in the right path05:09
epimethbrian_: lol, nope!  google away my friend! and send me a memo (check out /msg memoserv help) if you figure it out... I'm curious05:12
brian_Im thinking i should create a partion then copy the contents of grub to the pation? Right?05:13
epimethno... I'm pretty sure there's a way to install grub to its own partition during installation05:15
brian_do you know anything about installing grub?05:16
epimethbrian_: just what happens during installation05:19
brian_sudo apt-get install grub05:20
brian_It says that it is already installed?05:21
epimethdunno buddy...05:23
DreadKnighthow do i make a new post on dot?05:23
DreadKnighti mean reply to a post05:24
DreadKnightdirectly, not to some other comment05:24
JucatoDreadKnight: click the Post Reply immediately at the bottom of the article05:24
epimethwhats dot?05:24
JucatoThe Dot = dot.kde.org05:24
DreadKnightJucato: thanks, just found it; the post about japan is so "wide" in the browser page xD05:24
Jucatounless he means slashdot...05:25
Jucatoah koo05:25
Jucatokool05:25
epimethgood night folks!05:29
DreadKnightepimeth: night05:34
serruchohi everyone05:43
serruchocan somebody tell me how I can remote from my ubuntu to windows?05:44
serruchoI`m triend to use this program call "krdc"05:45
matt__hello05:51
matt__anybody here?05:51
matt__Privet05:51
matt__HELLO05:52
matt__talk05:52
matt__say something05:52
dwidmann_something05:52
matt__u did05:53
matt__hello05:53
dwidmann_hi05:53
matt__where r u from?05:53
dwidmann_Virginia, USA05:53
matt__Im from Handan City,Heibei Province,China05:53
matt__do u like Kubuntu?05:54
dwidmann_Indeed I do05:54
matt__cool05:54
matt__im new at kubuntu05:55
dwidmann_I've been using it for a couple years, seems the easiest thing for me to run because I don't have to change as much to get it the way I like it05:55
matt__yeah,i think that's why unix is attractive05:57
matt__i have a problem on my kubuntu05:57
dwidmann_What is it?05:57
matthew_epimeth: I am back--trying to get headers for ncurses...05:58
matt__when i play an music file,Amerok needed a decode,and i download,now the voice of the system is not very good05:58
dwidmann_if he was correct in what he said, he went to sleep a half hour ago matthew_ (he said he was going to sleep in ot)05:59
matthew_dwidmann_: real programmers never sleep05:59
dwidmann_matt__: so, after installing the decoder, sound is messed up? Hmmmmmm, I've never had that happen06:00
dwidmann_matthew_: are you calling epimeth a fake? :P06:00
matthew_dwidmann_: no.. I am sure he must be dreaming in code06:00
matthew_dwidmann_: you know, counting sheep++ in a for loop06:00
dwidmann_matthew_: or perhaps there's a matrix-esque screensaver attached to the back of his eyelids.06:01
matt__it's interesting for me to see foreigners chatting on group06:01
dwidmann_Not a whole lot of chatting really, there usually isn't this time of day/night(people from all over the world in here at any given time, actually is kind of neat)06:04
matt__nice06:04
matthew_So.. nobody knows what package or how to find out what package I need to get curses.h ?06:05
matt__what is curses.h?06:05
dwidmann_!info libncurses5-dev maybe06:06
ubotulibncurses5-dev (source: ncurses): Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.6+20070716-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1422 kB, installed size 6136 kB06:06
matthew_ubotu: yes.. perhaps.. didn't see that one with apt-cache search curese ...06:08
dwidmann_!bot06:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:08
Jucato:D06:08
matthew_I found this page that might be helpful for me..06:09
matthew_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware06:09
Jucatomatthew_: hint when compiling stuff. whenever you get error messages about missing includes or header files, look for the -dev version of the package mentioned06:09
dwidmann_matt__: curses.h is a C or C++ header file for the curses library06:12
matt__oh thanks a lot06:12
sam__hi ! whats up guys?, i finished installing ubuntu 7.04 !!! im now connected via dial-up06:13
matt__how's KDE4?06:13
matthew_Jucato: yes.. but I don't see any for curses06:13
Jucatodoing ok. wait for 4.1 I say06:13
dwidmann_matt__: kde 4 is pretty weak for now06:13
Jucatomatthew_: http://packages.ubuntu.com is a good place to search06:13
dwidmann_matt__: buggy and lacking features06:14
Jucatosee the section where you can search for a package which contains a certain file or folder06:14
dwidmann_Jucato, matthew_: apt-cache search ftw06:14
matt__opos06:14
Jucato4.0 stable but lacking features... it's still growing... and growing (and growing... (and growing...))06:14
matt__let it starts06:14
Jucatodwidmann_: apt-cache doesn't do that kind of search06:14
Jucatoapt-file does06:15
dwidmann_Jucato: which kind?06:15
SperMiteanyone have decent CCSM Profiles/Settings they could lend me?06:15
dwidmann_Jucato: ah, I see06:15
Jucatodwidmann_:  <Jucato> see the section where you can search for a package which contains a certain file or folder06:15
matthew_Jucato: it's not there...  I also tried auto-apt search curses.h06:15
dwidmann_I skip over things ... a lot06:15
JucatoSperMite: #compiz-fusion06:15
dwidmann_which reminds me to re-install apt-file06:15
Jucatomatthew_: gutsy right?06:15
Jucatohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=curses.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=gutsy&arch=any06:16
Jucatotada!!06:16
matthew_Jucato: 8.0406:16
Jucatohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=curses.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any06:16
Jucatotada again!!06:16
matthew_Jucato: it is there libncurses5-dev06:18
matthew_and.. finaly.. now buildroot let's me into its menuconfig06:19
dwidmann_I'm tired, I think it's time for bed for me06:21
matt__how can i add my display driver06:22
matt__i choose another display to let it support 1024*768,but my display can't show the boot screen06:23
dwidmann_matt__: what videocard does your computer have?06:25
matt__it's TNT2 model 6406:26
matt__old stuff06:26
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dwidmann_matt__: try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy && sudo nvidia-xconfig"06:27
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matt__thx pal06:31
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* bragoo08 is wondering what to do next!!!!07:01
romunovend world wars07:02
romunovbut i guess that depends on your past experience as world war negotiatior07:03
bragoo08Hey, now there's a thought!07:03
romunovyou might knock things down a notch and make yourself a sandwitch... almost an equivalent start07:03
romunovbam!07:03
bragoo08the feeling of hunger eludes me at the moment07:04
dwidmann_How does one change the domain name they're set to? (ie: hostname -d)07:05
romunovyour feeling sharply contrasts mine07:06
eagles0513875is there an alternative to adobe's flash pkg07:13
eagles0513875i mean shockwave07:13
eagles0513875!shockwave07:13
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave07:13
eddieftwhello all. no questions or help needed, i just wanted to pop in and say hello07:16
bragoo08dwidmann: goto System Setings > Network Setings > Domain Name System07:16
bragoo08dwidmann: then enter Admin. mode07:17
jussi01eddieftw: Hi! you may be interested also to join #kubuntu-offtopic, the general chatter channel07:17
dwidmann_bragoo08: and what will it take to (after changing it here) to make it take effect?07:20
X9nLinuxLclear07:21
bragoo08dwidmann: If i'm not mistaken i think it's just a rebboot07:21
bragoo08sorry, reboot07:21
dwidmann_Hmm, looks like it might not even take that, semi-copied off my desktops config, looks like this will work now I hope, lets see if it mounts07:23
dwidmann_hmm, no, I'll try the reboot then07:24
X9nLinuxLwhile its kinda quiet: How do I get 'dailystrips' to show up in the kmenu?07:25
X9nLinuxL(using feisty on an old imac)07:26
joeGattusohi07:31
dwidmann_nfs is being mean :(07:33
bragoo08linuxcbon: not a good idea to login as root, this server is logged on Google!07:33
bragoo08dwidmann: did the reboot work?07:34
linuxcbonso ?07:34
dwidmann_bragoo08: yessssss, but nfs is acting stupid, Apr 18 02:34:10 terra mountd[5697]: mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.169 for /nfs/archives (/nfs/archives)07:35
bragoo08dwidmann: i see, nfs dosn't recignise the new domain07:36
dwidmann_bragoo08: or something like that, yeah07:36
bragoo08dwidmann: you may need to manually reconfigure nfs.07:37
bragoo08dwidmann: or just go back to what you had07:37
jerwarehi07:38
jerwarei have partitioned my hard drive for windows,  but im afraid it will overwite grub (or even my linux half)07:38
jussi01!grub | jerware do this after the windows install07:39
ubotujerware do this after the windows install: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:39
jerwarecan anyone point me in the right direction?  i need windblows for school  (OOP programming using viso).07:39
jerwarethanx jussi0107:39
jussi01:)07:39
dwidmann_bragoo08: hmmm, I have it set to export to *.cosmos (I've set 192.168.1.169 to spira.cosmos), I can do things like ping spira and such, or hostname 192.168.1.169 which says spira, but .... blah, no goods for nfs :(07:39
jerwaregood thing i have a back up hard drive mounted.07:40
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joeGattusohows it going?07:40
* jerware likes this channel. 07:42
jerwareis grub tricky to learn ?07:43
jussi01jerware: not overly07:48
doom__good morning mates07:52
Jucatomoin07:52
ubuntuHey guys little spot of bother ! ihave so far installed Kubuntu and then installed a copy of windows on the second partition ! i was hopingthat i would give me an option to chose which operating system i wanted but it just loaded straight into windows ! how do i fix this ?07:57
jussi01!grub | ubuntu07:57
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:57
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Jimmy1ok jussi ill have a lil read07:58
Jimmy1Hmmm08:01
Jimmy1jussi im having trouble with step 408:01
level1is there a program that allows me to run a 64 bit virtual machine on a 32 bit system?  I dont care about efficiency08:01
Jimmy1bbl08:05
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dwidmann_level1: I doubt it08:14
Daisuke_Idoi don't even think you could do that08:19
Daisuke_Idoregisters would have to be in ram or on disk, and that's a performance hit akin to running windows 2000 on a 386 (yes, i'm aware of the impossibility)08:20
rootlinuxusris there anyway to get webcam usage in Kubuntu?08:33
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max__I neet to use the shell bash in kubuntu what is the command to lunch it08:35
JucatoK Menu -> System -> Konsole?08:38
fzeddemax: If you click to open Konsole, terminal program. You end up in bash.08:39
max__no that console is not the shell bash.... I need the real bash shell in kubuntu08:40
Jucato???08:40
JucatoKonsole uses "the real bash shell"... or are you talking about tty's (pseudo terminals)?08:41
fzeddeDoes: "Ctrl + Alt + F1" looks better?08:41
JucatoCtrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the GUI08:41
max__I neet to recompile linux kernel and I need the real bash shell to do it08:41
max__I need to recompile linux kernel and I need the real bash shell to do it08:41
Jucato!shell08:41
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:41
Jucatothe "shell"08:42
DarkriftXwhen i turned on my vbox with a usb device defined in a filter, i got an error "Not permitted to open the USB device, check usbfs options.". how do i fix this?08:42
Jucatothe "shell", such as BASH, is a program (command line interpreter/interface)  that runs inside a terminal (like tty's) or terminal emulators (like Konsole). They all use "real" BASH08:42
max__ok with CTRL+ALT + F1  but what is the command lunched by this keys?08:42
* Jucato headdesks08:43
Jucatothe bash you use in tty's (Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6) is the same bash you use in Konsole... I don't understand why compiling a kernel would require you to go to tty108:43
Jucatooh, and there is no "command".... it's basically built-in to X08:44
ds187the command is "switch to a real bash console" :-)08:44
grillbyanyone use dosemu and might be willing to give me a hand?08:44
grillbyWould like for dosemu to use a directory in my home folder as the "floppy" but I'm having troubles getting it setup.08:45
max__I'm programming an embedded system... and I have to recompile the kernel to this system, someone (who got us the hardware) say me I need to recompile in bash shell....08:45
kumamotothis sucks as08:45
Jucatokumamoto: hmm?08:46
max__I don't know if the console terminal program is bash shell or not....08:46
Hobbseemax__: it is08:46
max__now I try to recompile with CTRL + ALT + F108:46
max__ok Hobbsee....08:46
* Jucato shrugs08:46
Jucato<Jucato> the "shell", such as BASH, is a program (command line interpreter/interface)  that runs inside a terminal (like tty's) or terminal emulators (like Konsole). They all use "real" BASH08:47
Jucato(unless you explicitly set them not to use BASH and use something else like ZSH)08:47
* Hobbsee <3 zsh08:48
max__csh.... yes08:48
ds187but even with zsh it should be possible to compile a kernel :-)08:48
Jucatoyeah08:48
Hobbseeds187: if not, i'ts a bug.08:48
kumamotothere are no java plugin that work on linbox08:48
Jucatonothing to do with what shell you are using08:48
kumamotoall show blank even when using the browser tester from sun08:48
Hobbseekumamoto: linbox?08:49
doom__hi08:49
doom__is there any way for vbox to boot a virtual machine on program startup?08:49
Jucatokumamoto: did you install Java?08:50
Jucatodoom__: I think there's a #vbox channel08:50
doom__yeah nobody responding there :(08:50
tarelerulzI am wanting to make to konqueror downloads the whole clip and then  I can play it with media player.   the clip into tmp so it will get cleaned out when  I am done with it.  How do I do that ?08:55
kumamotoyah java is installed that icedtea thing08:56
tarelerulzdo any of you use konqeror for you main internet browser ?08:57
emilsedghyeah08:58
emilsedghi do08:58
emilsedghmany others too08:58
emilsedghKonqueror truly rocks08:58
tarelerulzI think it is one of the best all in one program I have used for the most part08:58
* Jucato is unfamiliar with icedtea though... doesn't know if it has a plugin for that08:58
tarelerulzjust that one action08:58
tarelerulz you either have the option of downloading the clip some where or play it with the media player and that most the time try to stream it.08:59
elcucohi all, hardy questions here ? on in another channel?09:00
SlimeyPete!hardy09:00
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu09:00
emilsedghtarelerulz: Konqueror has no equivalent.not even in the propertiary world.09:00
grillbyAnyone a dosemu user - or is there a better place for me to be?09:00
Jucatoemilsedgh, tarelerulz: and don't even dare compare it to Explorer! :P09:01
Jucato(but we are getting offtopic aren't we? :D)09:01
emilsedghJucato: explorer?! you must be kidding me!09:01
Jucatogrillby: hm.. just a guess.. maybe there's a #dosemu channel?09:01
kumamotoI have sun-java6-plugin installed and the rest of sun-java6 installed and remove the icedtea thing now java no javaplugin in the browser (about:plugin)09:02
tarelerulzI am not comparing it to any thing it is true unlike anything I have used.  I mean stream a file  is not all ways the best way.  I would like to have it download and then play it. I do it with firefox all the time09:02
kumamotoit didn't either work in my last 64bit install09:02
emilsedghtarelerulz: shift+click on the link goes to download it09:02
kumamotobut works on laptop fine using the icedtea java thingie09:02
kumamotodon't know if it is because it was installed with blackdown or what09:03
grillbyJucato, first thing I tried.  Made me sad, it was just me.09:03
tarelerulzis that really such an unuseal thing to want to to .09:03
tarelerulzI watch a lot of small clips and I have found downloading them and then open with a media player seems to work09:04
philipp__how can i install gtk09:04
Jucatophilipp__: just search of the package in Add/Remove or Adept Manager09:05
philipp__jucado whats his name?09:05
Jucatoum.. "gtk"? depends on what you need it for or what version you need09:06
tarelerulzand of you use the min file filter view. where just show the files matching what you put int the view filter09:06
philipp__jucato i think i will take the newest stable version for c/c++09:07
Jucatoyou are compiling GTK+ apps?09:08
philipp__jucato compiliong? i wonna program a GUI in c09:09
philipp__jucato for this i need gtk or qt09:09
Jucatoyes. compiling. you will need to compile your programs. anyway, you need either GTK+ or Qt headers. for Qt 3, you need libqt3-mt-dev. for Qt 4, you need libqt4-dev09:11
Jucatofor GTK+ 2, I think you need libgtk2.0-dev09:12
Jucato(but for C++, you will need gtkmm)09:13
Jucatoyou can try asking in #ubuntu what the exact packages are for GTK+09:13
tarelerulzHow do you set up konqueror to download to  a default directory ? So even thing you download goes there09:15
Jucatonot Konqueror, but KGet09:15
KetrelHi, two quick questions from me, I can't seem to get sounds from Pidgin, and also, there version of Pidgin from the repos is pretty outdated, any idea on why?09:15
JucatoI only have an answer to the 2nd question: Pidgin updates probably haven't been packaged in light of a new Ubuntu release coming next week, which will most probably have a more recent version09:16
KetrelJucato, on that note, will that new version still have the option for KDE3?09:17
Jucatoyes09:17
KetrelOk, danke.09:17
JucatoKubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron will have 2 versions available09:17
Ketrelan option for both KDE3 and 4 or one or the other?09:18
Jucato(in terms of CD's)09:18
Jucatoa KDE 3 CD and  KDE 4 CD. but if you're just upgrading, no issues there09:18
Ketrelwould you be able to grab one, and install the other from the repos?09:18
Jucatoif you have KDE 3, you'll be upgraded to the latest KDE 3. you won't get KDE 4 unless you explicitly install it09:18
Jucatoyep09:19
KetrelOh, and I know I said 2 questions, but one more, when configuring screensaves, I noticed there's quite a few that reference config options that doesn't seem to exist, is there a reason for that?09:19
* Jucato doesn't know sorry09:19
sh4rm4man is that GAY ... i rightclick some archives in dolphi (on DESKTOP 3), chose "extract to subdir".... NOTHING RESPONDS... 2 hours later i recognize that ark popped up some gay popup dialogue on DESKTOP 2, telling me it doesnt support .ace archives09:22
Jucatolanguage please09:23
sh4rm4why cant those stupid dialog boxes not be thrown on the desktop THAT IS USED ?09:24
max_I neet to know the version of my bash shell , there are some bash command to know this version? Bash / dash / csh shell...09:25
Jucatomax_: bash --version09:25
max_how I can distinguish what shell I use when I open the shell09:26
sh4rm4so one can see whats wrong ?09:26
Jucatomax_: "echo $SHELL" I think09:26
Jucatosh4rm4: they usually do. unless before the app/dialog launched you switched desktops and might have opened there09:27
Jucato(although I don't usually trust Ark and D3lphin (the KDE 3 one)09:27
max_OK JUCATO09:27
tarelerulzwhat do you all use for your media player on Kubuntu?  I am thinking maybe if I had different player it might work better09:29
sh4rm4Jucato: so what else do you trust ?09:31
max_how I can create a link to a file?   I need to change the sh link... I neet to link sh to bash shell09:32
max_I try link but when I get option the file sh don't appear as link09:32
max_appear as normal file09:32
Admiral_Chicagotarelerulz: Amarok is a pretty solid music player09:32
Jucatosh4rm4: when it comes to archives? tar+bzip/gzip09:33
tarelerulzIn firefox I  pick open with this media player and it downloads the whole  small clip  and the plays it. Great way don't have to wait on streaming it just all play at one time.  I am trying to get konqueor to do that.  How might I do that09:34
jerknextdoortarelerulz:  Amarok is pretty sweet, with last.fm integration and all.  i wish i could customize it a little better but...09:34
sh4rm4Jucato: and when it comes to a filemanager ? xfe is good, but not really integrated09:34
tarelerulzI found it to be one of the best  mass media players I have used.   I even had a plugin that said what songs was playing09:35
JucatoKonqueror or Dolphin (take note, not D3lphin)09:35
Jucatosh4rm4: ^^^^09:35
sh4rm4hehe09:35
sh4rm4k09:35
Jucatosh4rm4: although your problem in this case, I think has less to do with d3lphin and more with Ark09:35
Jucatoand yes, Ark only supports what backends it can find installed09:35
tarelerulzBy said I mean spoke the name of it via text-to-speak .09:36
sh4rm4Jucato: so there's a backend for ace archives ?09:36
tarelerulzjerknextdoor , You used any media player that where good like it and did video09:36
Jucatosh4rm4: I don't know.09:37
icewatermanare there plugins for konqueror like there are for firefox? because i am beginning to like khtml rendering engine but it lacks many features i'd like to use (like noscript plugin etc.)09:38
* emilsedgh loves khtml09:38
icewatermanemilsedgh: it lacks plugin capabilities though09:39
icewatermanemilsedgh: i mean extensions09:39
icewatermanemilsedgh: plugins seem to work09:39
emilsedghicewaterman: no.khtml is complete.konqueror lacks extensions.it supports them but there are not many extensions for it09:39
Jucatoof course. because Firefox extensions are for Firefox :)09:39
emilsedghicewaterman: if you install extragear/base, a few extensions come, like DOM tree viewer or autorefresh09:39
icewatermanemilsedgh: where can i find those extensions?09:39
jerknextdoortarelerulz:  no, i dont really have a good one for you.  i don't watch a lot of movies in kubuntu.  i mostly do those on my other os.09:39
Jucatoemilsedgh: confusing KDE 4 and KDE 3 are we? :P09:40
emilsedghJucato: why?09:40
emilsedghJucato: i think extenions are for both09:40
Jucatoemilsedgh: KDE3: kdeaddons/konq-plugins; KDE4: extragear/base/konq-plugins09:40
icewatermanemilsedgh: konqueror has noscript capabilities, but they are just not useable because you have to manually enter all the urls that should be allowed javascript09:40
Jucato(either way, there's a konq-plugins package)09:41
emilsedghJucato: oh!09:41
* Jucato wonders where he stores all this data :/09:41
* emilsedgh wonders where Jucato stores all this information :P09:41
Jucatoer.. right.. info, not data :P09:42
* Admiral_Chicago wonders where Jucato learned all this information09:42
emilsedghicewaterman: dunno.i never tried , but really as a web developer i love khtml.fast and as most standards compilance as possible and very well intergrated into kde.what else you want?09:42
tarelerulzOne great feature I have seen about it is the view setting that lets you view by size.  It show rectangle  and  if file is better it show up biger on the screen.   anyone now how to get that feature09:42
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: that part I know... stupidity and 2 years of non-stop usage :)09:42
Admiral_Chicago:P09:42
Jucatotarelerulz: we were just talking about that. install konq-plugins09:43
icewatermanemilsedgh: something like type-ahead-find...09:43
emilsedghicewaterman: type /09:43
emilsedghicewaterman: and then start writing09:43
icewatermanemilsedgh: just typing is faster :)09:43
Jucatoicewaterman: press /09:43
icewatermanJucato: yes, but on a german keyboard / is shift+709:43
Jucatoicewaterman: press / (same as Firefox btw) and then type. look at the status bar09:44
emilsedghicewaterman: btw, these are not what khtml lacks.there are what konqueror should do i think.09:44
Jucatoicewaterman: but yeah... hope that someday konqueror gets that. kwrite/kate and Konsole already do09:44
Jucatobut it's not a deficiency in KHTML09:44
Jucatojust as Firefox and Gecko are different but connected, so are Konqueror and KHTML (Safari and WebKit, etc.)09:45
icewatermanJucato: yes, i mixed both names a bit, konqueror lacks these features of course not the rendering engine09:45
emilsedghJucato: i think in 4.2-4.3 konqueror will get a boost.think about dfaure working on konqueror.i think he is busy with other kdelibs stuff atm09:45
Jucatoemilsedgh: no problems there. I would have that the new Find bar would have been in kdelibs though09:45
Jucato(maybe it will be moved)09:46
tarelerulzJucato, What is that feature called ?  the file size view .   Do you know anything about the filter that just show files in that directory that match what you put in  the filter window09:46
icewatermanJucato: i'll try finding out if running konqueror as extremely-non-privileged user works like with firefox+sudo09:46
JucatoO.o09:47
icewatermanJucato: works fine and the browser cannot do as much damage as it would do in case it got compromised when running in the context of a normal user09:48
Jucatotarelerulz: 1. yes. File size view. 2. Configure Extensions -> Tools -> Directory Filter plugin09:48
Jucatoyou're not supposed to go online as root anyway... and Konq is normally launched as normal user (although a sudoer... but then again if that user is compromised, you're basically screwed)09:49
TheFuzzballhi guys, does anyone know how to get the OS to call a script at logoff and logon?09:50
JucatoTheFuzzball: put the scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart and ~/.kde/shutdown09:52
TheFuzzballI would prefer it not to be handled by a Desktop Environment09:52
TheFuzzballis there another way?09:53
Jucato.bash_logout?09:53
TheFuzzballhmm09:53
TheFuzzballwill a cronjob do it?09:53
Jucatotry asking in ##linux or #bash probably?09:54
Admiral_Chicagoyou may want to integrate that into you switching run levels09:54
Admiral_Chicagohow you do that is a different story09:54
TheFuzzballcool09:54
Jucatooh yeah.. runlevels..09:54
Jucatounfortunately I don't know if Ubuntu still makes use of such09:55
Jucato!upstart09:55
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:55
eagles0513875how does one patch a kernel09:55
TheFuzzballget the kernel source from apt09:55
TheFuzzballand apply the patch09:55
eagles0513875TheFuzzball: i downloaded the patch from kernel.org09:55
Jucatopatch -p<level> < foo.patch09:55
Jucato?09:55
eagles0513875Jucato: ?09:56
Jucatoyou apply the patch to the kernel source... for the kernel version it was made for?09:56
tarelerulzJucato  , I found what I was talking about i Settings -->configure toolbars-->extra toolbar <dirfilter>  Then I just select the action I wanted09:57
eagles0513875so im guessing kernel 2.6.25 isnt in repos09:57
TheFuzzballnope09:57
Jucatotarelerulz: ah I didn't tell you to add the toolbar after you make sure the plugin is enabled? my bad09:57
eagles0513875Jucato: is there a way i can make kde lighter then it already is cuz im planning on using kubuntu as a basis for my beginners cluster os09:58
TheFuzzballgo into kcontrol and disable all the pretty stuff09:59
Jucatodisable any effects, uninstall anything you don't need, disable unnecessary services09:59
eagles0513875whoo time to have fun borking my install lol09:59
Jucato(install and run kpersonalier if you want a way to tone down effects in one setting)09:59
Jucatoor... you can start from scratch and just build up09:59
Jucatoby scratch, I mean, command line, no X10:00
eagles0513875Jucato: where do i exactly start building a distro from10:00
Jucatothen install kdelibs, etc etc10:00
TheFuzzballJucato, sudo ln -s /usr/bin/backup ~/.kde/shutdown , will that work?10:00
tarelerulzJucato , If I could just get Konqueor to download then open movie files it would be my main browser.  With filter directory , file size view and it being a file manager and web browser .  I mean I used it a lot when I had hard core  configure to do . I would have the how-to on one tabe the direcotry I need to edit the file in and so on10:00
JucatoTheFuzzball: it should. although that's tied to the DE10:01
TheFuzzballJucato, I know :(, I cba finding another method :)10:01
TheFuzzballI just used at, it's quite good10:06
Jucatogoo10:07
Jucatoer.. good10:07
tarelerulzIs there any easy way to get konqueror to use adobe flash player ?10:07
TheFuzzballtarelerulz, the latest one only works with Firefox and a few others10:08
TheFuzzballbut you can use 9.0.48, download it from adobe archives10:08
tarelerulzany of you use kopete with jingle support and talk to gtalk windows clients ?10:14
ActionParsniptarelerulz: sorry man i use pidgin10:14
tarelerulzActionParsnip: I like pidgin to ,but it don't have feature like voice  , web and I can't get it to send files to yahoo or gtalk . I am on the look out for something that might10:16
ActionParsnipnot sure, sorry10:18
ActionParsnipso you need voice for googletalk?10:18
tarelerulzWell, I have one of my best friends on it and he is not much for type ing10:19
tarelerulzI had empathy working for it ,but it just works one way  and I was wondering if any one use the new version of kopete. It has Jingle/gtalk voice chat support . I can't get it to build on my system or I would be using it right now10:20
tarelerulzWhat is kopete irc room?10:25
Jucatowould you believe it's #kopete ? :D10:26
jerknextdoorjucato:  i love that.  you never really have to look too hard to find them do you?10:27
tarelerulzWell, Jucato thanks for your help with Konqueror , I hope one day I get the movie playing down it .  It really is great program10:27
Jucatojerknextdoor:  heeh :)10:27
sh4rm4whats the right switch to force dpkg to install a non-amd64-deb pkg ?10:34
emilsedgh--force-all forces everything10:36
emilsedghso sudo dpkg --force-all -i foo.deb installs foo.deb without carying about anything.10:37
sh4rm4thx10:38
stdinemilsedgh: please don't recommend force-all, use --force-architecture for arch. there may be other problems with the package that you just told dpkg not to even bother with10:41
emilsedghstdin: you are absolutely right :)10:42
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eagles0513875im suprised i havent borked my install yet11:31
CheGuevaratry harder :P11:33
reeseis it normal that in (k)ubuntu the audio volume maximum is half of the maximum in windows? (i've a Realtek ALC888)11:36
arcticpenguin380hey everybody todays the big day11:48
eagles0513875arcticpenguin380: ?11:49
eagles0513875arcticpenguin380: care to fill us in11:50
arcticpenguin380rc candidate today11:50
eagles0513875really11:50
arcticpenguin380yeah but i g2g11:51
genevaI am new at Kubuntu and I am trying to install firefox, downloaded tp the PC, but can not get it installed11:53
yao_ziyuanmy intel ac97 sound card no longer recognized by hardy. does it require a proprietary driver?11:53
ds187geneva: you just have to mark firefox in adept_manager and everything should be fine11:54
genevads187 it does not show up there11:57
ds187are you sure you have all repositories correctly in your sources.list?11:57
ds187because firefox IS there, definetly!11:58
genevads187 thanks did not have repositiries set up now its there and installing11:58
ds187almost every software you ever want to install is somewhere in some repository. no need to manually download stuff.........almost11:59
romunov... almost :)12:00
ds187about 98% i would guess.......depends on what you are doing with you computer :-)12:00
genevaThanks allot12:00
makdaknifecan anyone recommend a cheap hosting provider where I can get a dedicated server12:17
eagles0513875makdaknife: what u need it for12:19
eagles0513875is it for webhosting12:19
makdaknifeeagles0513875: mail server... with some webhosting...12:19
eagles0513875makdaknife: couldnt u setup ur kubuntu box to do all that for ya apache for web and sendmail for mail12:20
eagles0513875makdaknife: if u dont wanna do that take a look at www.x10hosting.com12:21
makdaknifeeagles0513875: sure... I'm looking for somewhere that can provide a hosted dedicated server... on which I can run linux (pref ubuntu/debian) and run aforementioned services12:21
eagles0513875makdaknife: ahhhh gothca i honestly dont know of any have u tried googling12:21
makdaknifeeagles0513875: although I don't think sendmail would be my first choice of mailserver :-)12:22
eagles0513875makdaknife: lol just making a suggestion12:22
makdaknifeeagles0513875: sure... I've googled this to death... do you have any idea how many hosting companies there are in the world12:22
eagles0513875makdaknife: go to www.google.com/linux and type dedicated servers12:22
eagles0513875finds all the linux ones12:22
eagles0513875makdaknife: for intance http://b2evolution.net/about/linux-dedicated-servers-web-hosting.php12:23
eagles0513875makdaknife: http://www.google.com.mt/linux?hl=mt&q=dedicated+server&btnG=Fittex&meta=12:23
ds187.oO( friday afternoon, after 1 pm, musst be googling-for-beginners-guide-time ) ;-)12:25
eagles0513875ds187: have u ever tried google.com/linux12:26
ds187sometimes, yes........12:27
makdaknifeplease... I don't need help googling... I was looking for references from people who currently host with providers12:27
eagles0513875makdaknife: oh then im no help i use a simple free webhosting provider and thats bout it12:27
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Nyadeagles0513875: Can you please give me some more google commands like google.com/linux12:48
ds187google.com/microsoft12:49
ds187:-)12:49
romunovwhat is the benefit of google.com/linux?12:51
Nyadis there some way I can view all of these things?12:52
ZombieIs it true that Ubuntu outnumbers OSX?12:54
ds187Nyad: just for you a very ot-link :-) http://www.pronetadvertising.com/articles/a-collection-of-strange-links-on-googlecom.html12:55
Nyadwasn't that all of linux and not just Ubuntu?12:56
eagles0513875Nyad: that is the only one i know13:00
eagles0513875Nyad: searches all linux related pgs13:00
Nyadthanks eagles0513875.13:01
NyadZombie:  wasn't that all of linux and not just Ubuntu?13:01
ZombieI'm trying to find some hard numbers.13:02
ZombieI'm trying to write a pro-Linux paper for University.13:02
romunovhave you tried slashdot?13:06
ZombieYes.13:09
Greeneryhow to revert an application to previous version when the new version has already been installed?13:14
romunovwhat's the command to display my ips?13:20
romunovah, ifconfig13:20
romunovi wonder why not ipconfig...13:20
FSHeroromunov: lol I think I have the answer. ifconfig is short for "InterFace CONFIGuration"13:21
romunovmkay, i'll buy that :13:22
FSHeroI have a question about installing icons: I downloaded the Crystal Project icon set from http://www.everaldo.com/crystal/ and I successufully unzipped the main icons to /usr/share/icons13:22
FSHeroBut where do I put the OpenOffice.org icons?13:22
ZombieAnyone here?13:23
ds187romunov: but ifconfig is more or less obsolete.........use the 'ip' command instead....in your case 'ip addr' or 'ip addr show'13:24
Thermostatendoes any body here know the dcop command to run to stop knetworkmanager - i want to run kismet from a script and need the networkmanager to stop while running kismet.13:27
Thermostatendcop kded ???13:28
MaliqueHey guys, any idea on how to get KMix to work with OSS?13:28
a_c_mok i have 2 strange wifi related problems13:33
a_c_m(3 if you count xp)13:33
a_c_mSo, fresh install of 8.4 Kubuntu64 - installed and working. plugged in a Inventel USB wifi dongle works fine...13:34
a_c_minstall a few bits (including ndiswrapper)13:35
a_c_mand restricted drivers for grfx13:35
a_c_mreboot13:35
a_c_mwell shutdown, move pc to new flat... boot into Kubuntu, dongle no longer works13:35
a_c_mno errors, just doesnt seem to load any drivers13:35
a_c_mso doesnt appear as wlan0 or anything13:36
a_c_mno lights on the dongle... but i can see it in lsusb13:36
arkaniadany quick questions? i have to go to school soon13:41
a_c_m... then problem 2, Kubuntu 7.10 (not 64 bit) cant connect to an open wifi network... "Could not connect to 3com" syslogs show it timing out waiting for a DHCP offer.. but vista conects fine13:42
arkaniadhmm'13:42
arkaniadwhat card/adapter?13:42
a_c_mits a really bizzar one13:42
arkaniadlol13:42
a_c_mit came free with a orange router13:42
arkaniadthats probably why13:42
a_c_mright13:43
a_c_mbut13:43
a_c_mit WAS working13:43
a_c_min Kubuntu6413:43
a_c_mpre reboot13:43
arkaniadhmm13:43
arkaniadhmmz13:43
Blues-Manhello13:43
a_c_m(at the old flat - where i also had wired connect)13:43
arkaniadlol13:43
Greeneryi can't installed deb package, gdebi won't allow because latest version is installed, any idea how?13:43
a_c_mGreenery uninstall latest then install the one you want/13:43
arkaniadso youre on a wired connection?13:44
a_c_markaniad i wish13:44
a_c_mim in vista13:44
arkaniadk13:44
arkaniadlol'13:44
a_c_mon the 64bit machine13:44
a_c_mi also have a 32 bit latop13:44
arkaniadvista sucks IMHO but...13:44
a_c_mbut it cant connect13:44
arkaniadDo you have a flash drive?13:44
* a_c_m agrees and hates vista13:44
a_c_markaniad: no but i can move files about13:44
tzdis it possible to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy and still be able to keep software, settings etc?13:45
arkaniadif you do see if you can find the make-essential package and all it's dependencies and download them (work!!!) or if you can wire it up then you could apt-get13:45
Greeneryis there another way without unistalling the current one?13:45
arkaniadthen get ndiswrapper source and compile it13:46
arkaniadthats the only thing that crosses my mind on that,,13:46
arkaniadwell gg2g to school. bye!!!13:47
a_c_markaniad cheer anyway13:47
Jucatotzd: as long as you don't reinstall, that's the normal behavior13:48
JucatoGreenery: I can't think of the option right now, but it should be possible with the dpkg command. you can try reading the manual in Konqueror: man:/dpkg13:48
tzdJucato: ok, so it's normal not reinstalling and instead upgrading right? I noticed the website in topic regarding upgrading from Internet and cd... I was thinking of upgrading but I don't want to lose any settings etc13:50
Jucatothe normal way is upgrading from the internet, or using the alternate CD as an offline source (although that's a bit flaky sometimes)13:50
tzdJucato: ah ok. Then I'll just go ahead :) Thank you for your help!13:51
tzdJucato: almost forgot... Hardy is beta but it's fairly stable?13:51
Jucatoit's hitting RC soon (tomorrow maybe?). you better ask in #ubuntu+113:52
tzdcool will do, thanks. One more thing.... Will an upgrade affect installed software? I think upgrading KDE does that?13:53
GreeneryJucato: is downgrade the option?13:53
Jucato--force-downgrade it seems. not 100% sure it's safe though13:54
epimethGreenery: why do you want to downgrade?13:54
Greenerywell the latest wine package broke something13:55
Greenerythe previous one didn't, that'swhy i want to downgrade it13:55
epimethGreenery: you could alwways just ununstall andthen install the older one.... have you considered compiling from source, btw?13:56
Greeneryepimeth: i've never tried compiling from source, how do i do that?13:58
epimethGreenery: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo?highlight=(compiling)13:59
epimethGreenery: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware?highlight=(compiling)14:00
Greeneryepimeth: thanks, i'll get right through it14:02
epimethno worries14:03
elvirolohi14:07
flipstarhi elvirolo14:08
elviroloi'm running dapper, and my prob is that the sound doesn't work with youtube (although it does work with other flash animations14:08
ubuntu_Hello14:08
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Jimmy1im running a dual boot but its strting up windows ! what do i do  ?14:09
flipstarelvirolo: same in different browsers ?14:09
elvirolooh sry i was talking of firefox14:10
elvirololet me try with konqueror14:10
Jimmy1Dual boot any1 ?14:11
flipstarJimmy1: grub is installed correct ?14:11
flipstarthen check/paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst14:11
Jimmy1i dont think so14:11
Jimmy1i am runing in live cd atm14:11
flipstarJimmy1: if grub/lilo is not installed you have to do so ..14:11
Jimmy1ok14:12
Jimmy1how do i do that ?14:12
elviroloflipstar: hum, flash doesn't even work with konqueror14:12
edneymatiasis it possible to get kubuntu running with lvm without the alternate install...i think i'm missing something...cause manually i did install the lvm2 package...loaded the dm-mod and did the partitioning. ubiquity already identified the partitions and allowed me to specify the mouting points.14:12
flipstarelvirolo: flashplugin-nonfree is installed ?14:12
edneymatiasafter system installed i chrooted to the new system...installed packages14:12
edneymatiaschecked udev...14:13
elviroloflipstar: yup14:13
edneymatiasbut the system hangs in boot time14:13
edneymatiaswhat am i missing?14:13
flipstar!grub | Jimmy1 take a look here14:13
ubotuJimmy1 take a look here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:13
Jimmy1ok when i go in terminal will i be root ?14:14
edneymatiasi think it does have something to do with not loading lvm the time the root filesystem is going to be mounted....14:15
edneymatiasis there an loading order for the lvm module?14:16
Jimmy1ok flipstar step 4 doesnt work for me !14:17
flipstarJimmy1: whats the problem ?14:18
Jimmy1can i copy paste it to you14:19
Jimmy1whats the link14:19
flipstarelvirolo: is the flashplugin listed in konqueror>settings>plugins (and enabled?)14:19
flipstarJimmy1: see the topic14:19
elviroloflipstar: yes14:20
Jimmy1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63624/14:20
nblracerhello14:20
elviroloflipstar: wait it works now14:21
elviroloflipstar: but still no sound14:21
nblracerhaving a problem with jockey-kde 4 not showing my nvidia vid card14:21
nblracerit was working for a while...14:21
flipstarJimmy1: type root (hd0,0)14:22
Jimmy1ah ok14:22
Jimmy1umm did it do anything ?14:23
Jimmy1i typed it in and nothing seemed to happen14:23
flipstarJimmy1: no error?14:23
flipstarthen type   setup (hd0)14:23
Jimmy1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63625/14:24
flipstarelvirolo: okay this only apply on youtube? other sites and sound in general works ?14:24
elviroloflipstar: yup14:25
flipstarJimmy1: looks good14:25
flipstarelvirolo: did it ever worked ?14:25
Jimmy1so it worked ?14:25
flipstarseems so, yes14:26
Jimmy1if i reboot now it will let me chose linux or windows14:26
Jimmy1ok ill give it a go14:26
Jimmy1cheers14:26
Jimmy1brb14:26
elviroloflipstar: well, i just installed hardy, so no14:27
flipstaryou said before you're running dapper ?14:28
elviroloflipstar: yeah, sorry, i meant hardy14:30
flipstarhm okay than its probably a pulseaudio thing are you on 64bit ?14:30
flipstarelvirolo: try installing libflashsupport14:30
elviroloflipstar: it's already installed14:31
flipstarokay are you on a 64bit system ?14:32
elviroloflipstar: nope, i586 :)14:35
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flipstarelvirolo: is your system up to date ? if yes please join #ubuntu+1 the hardy channel14:36
elviroloflipstar: ok, thank you for your help :)14:37
mardi_soirhello14:38
mardi_soiri have a problem with samba14:38
mardi_soirthe computer is here but no acces possible14:39
mardi_soirhttp://pastebin.com/m4cc2d14e14:39
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rysiekhi all14:45
rysiekguys, stupid question, anybody oses OpenOffice here?14:45
rysiek;)14:45
flipstarsure14:45
rysiekI am having some serious problems with setting the icon theme for OOo (both on Gutsy and on Hardy)14:46
rysiekI am using *dark* (i.e. #202020-dark) system colour settings14:46
rysiekand whatever icontheme I choosein OOo, the same one (I think it's HighContrast) is being used14:47
rysiekcan it be related to my system colour settings?14:47
* rysiek changed state to "awaiting communication" ;)14:48
flipstarwhy dont you change the theme and find out quickly :=)14:49
rysiekd'oh _-'14:50
rysiekgimme a sec :]14:50
dwidmann_rysiek: if you log out, then log back in, it should fix at least most of that, course14:50
farhad_hfhi all14:50
rysiekdwidmann_: you mean: 1. change the colour theme; 2. log out, log in; 3. ...; 4. profit?14:51
geniifarhad_hf: Hello14:51
dwidmann_rysiek: actually, I meant change the icon theme, I thought the problem was the icon theme?14:52
dwidmann_at least, that's what that looked like to me14:52
farhad_hfi was downloading qt-copy from svn last night(i have dialup connection :'( )) today i want to resume downloading it. but it errors. this is what i did and the errors : http://phpfi.com/310826 . what can i do?14:52
farhad_hfsorry for my poor english.14:53
rysiekdwidmann_: which icon theme. th problem is with OOo's icon theme14:53
rysiekdwidmann_: should I change KDE icon theme or OOo's icon theme14:54
dwidmann_doh, I missed the ooo part :\14:54
rysiek;)14:54
rysiekffs... flipstar: yup, that was it. it works like a charm on the default light colour theme14:56
rysiekflipstar: ny ideas why it's b0rked when using a dark one?14:56
flipstarnope maybe they don't like each other :P14:57
farhad_hfops!! it solved! i just deleted ft2-user_allocation.html and it works!14:58
rysiekok, thanks, asking on #OOo14:58
rysiekso long, and thanks for the ish14:59
rysiek*fish14:59
farhad_hfanother question : when i can request for kubuntu hardy CDs?14:59
flipstarhttps://shipit.kubuntu.org/ in a few day's probably15:00
jimhey15:02
polysilicondoes kubuntu 8.04 contain KDE4?15:03
jimmy boot loader didnt give me a choice of weather i wanted windows or linux !15:03
polysiliconby default I mean15:03
Jucatopolysilicon: it depends on which CD you used to install15:05
Jucatojim: you installed Windows *after* installing Kubuntu?15:05
polysiliconJucato, you mean LiveCD and AlternateCD ?15:06
jussio1!khardy | polysilicon15:06
ubotupolysilicon: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported15:06
Jucatopolysilicon: no. I mean KDE 3 CD or KDE 4 CD.15:06
polysiliconok thanks15:06
Jucatojussio1: I have to remember that :/15:06
jimumm no i installed Kubuntu then i partitioned the drive then i installed windows on the remaining partition15:06
Jucatojim: yeah. you installed Kubuntu first, and the Windows... that's going to really erase your GRUB15:07
Jucato!grub | jim15:07
ubotujim: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:07
jussio1Jucato: :D15:07
polysiliconJucato, so kde4 is expected to be somewhat unstable...?15:07
farhad_hfi was downloading qt-copy from svn last night(i have dialup connection :'( )) today i want to resume downloading it. but it errors. this is what i did and the errors : http://phpfi.com/310826 . what can i do? deleted ft2-user_allocation.html and it worked. now it errors on other files. what's the problem?15:08
polysiliconthats why they are not including it in LTS?15:08
Jucatopolysilicon: that's a long, a bit more complicated story15:08
flipstarpolysilicon: kde3 is also no lts :/15:08
jimyeh but wait15:08
jimi did what flipstar told me and now linux loads up without letting me chose15:09
flipstarjim: you have to add an entry for windows in the menu.lst ..15:09
polysiliconstable or not I am going to keep KDE4 on my laptop15:09
flipstarjim: i bet it is mentioned in the url's above15:09
farhad_hf :-(15:10
* polysilicon 6 days to go...!15:10
jimjust reading now15:10
flipstarfarhad_hf: maybe the svn has changed..?15:10
jimkbuildsycoca running...15:10
jimkdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 1115:10
jimis that bad ?15:10
jussio1jim: its likely it has a notice to hit esc to enter the menu15:11
jimoh wait kate is running15:11
jimlol15:11
farhad_hfflipstar: it means i have to download the whole project agian?15:14
flipstarnot sure about this but if it has changed, probably yes15:14
flipstaror you might run rsync or so15:15
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Pedhello from live session of preRC 8.04 :)15:16
flipstarPed: im burning the rc right now15:16
flipstar58%15:16
Pedflipstar: GL ... :)15:16
PedI will check my partitions whether I can't try even install by accident. but I'm afraid I don't have any spare one15:17
Pedflipstar: are you going to report to iso.qa.ubuntu.com? I already tried live yesterday and found some problems like Administrator mode not working in System settings...15:18
Xbehavedoes hardy heron finally have vuze?15:19
flipstarPed: @ #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu-testers or so15:19
PedI'm rather filling launchpad bugs.. I believe IRC things can get lost easily :)15:20
PedXbehave: what is it?15:20
Xbehaveazureus 315:20
Xbehaveit has some fancy GUI which i disable instantly, but it has a few updates too15:21
Pedthat's BT client, right? the liveCD has KTorrent, so no need for other BT client on CD. And as I didn't install yet, I'm not going to check repos, sorry15:21
Pedanyway, I would love to see native KDE utorrent one day... that piece of SW always makes me bow15:22
XbehaveKtorrent cant encrypt its traffic well enough, so its useless to me, my isp boosts my ping to 4000 if they see torrents15:22
jimdo i need to preserve the windows boot loader  ?15:22
Pedjim: what for? :D15:22
jimim trying to configure grub15:23
jimi have followed all the instructions and it told me to reboot grub menu15:23
jimhow do i do this ?15:23
PedI can't help you, I'm not sure about grub configuration (did it several times, but can't remember the things you are asking for)15:24
pietje_phuckjim: maybe it means you have to reboot?15:25
Pedbut I think if you keep winbootloader, it will make you boot into windows without asking. To boot into grub you will have to select it during boot15:25
jimhttp://phpfi.com/31084115:25
jimthis is what i THINK is ment to be the next step ! i dont understand it ! am i ment to continue doing this15:25
Pedso grub should be able to replace win boot loader even if you want to boot into win.15:25
jimok15:26
jimso when i reboot the computer will it give me an option to chose windows or ubuntu ?15:26
Jucato"This alternative, used without a third-party boot manager, will not cause Ubuntu to boot. "15:27
* DaSkreech waves atta the stuffPimper15:27
Pedjim: no actually no. This page describes how to keep your current boot loader15:27
pietje_phuckjim: if you have configured grub properly it should ask15:27
Pedjim: and the windows boot loader will not offer Ubuntu to you15:27
jimAhhhh15:28
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jimfirstly the windows wouldnt let me in ubuntu and then ubuntu wont let me in windows15:28
Pedyou should replace win boot manager with grub (or some other), and let grub boot the windows for you15:28
Jucatojim: read: that alternative will only work if you are using something like Boot Magic or System Commander15:28
jimi just wanna chose15:28
pietje_phuckjim: but if you keep the windows boot loader on the mbr, then that will start up rather then grub15:28
Pedjim: the grub will let you choose, don't worry15:28
jimahh so grub is good then15:28
jimok so everything worked well15:29
jimi can reboot my computer now yeh ?15:29
pietje_phuckjim: you can use the windows boot manager to start up linux as well15:29
Pedjim: I would not second the "good" word, but let's say it will allow you to choose :)15:29
jimthats all i wanted15:29
jim:)15:29
jimbrb rebooting15:29
Pedpietje: now that is new concept for me, but probably possible too, with enough knowledge about win boot loader15:29
Ped"brb" .. HAHA :D15:29
Pedok, let's go back to testing...15:30
pietje_phuckwb jim15:33
jimok grub didnt let me chose15:33
jimty15:33
jimthere is something i must be missing ! (thought it was too easy, nothing on linux is easy)15:33
Pedjim:?? so what did you experience?15:34
pietje_phucklol15:34
Pedjim: did it boot ubuntu directly?15:34
jimjust loaded up linux15:34
jimyeh15:34
Pedjim: did you remove CD from tray? Maybe it booted from CD?15:34
jimOh sorry i was doing this with out the live cd15:34
Ped(I hope it's this one, the other option is much worser)15:34
Jucatojim: you just got a blank screen then proceeded to Ubuntu?15:34
Jucatomaybe the GRUB menu is hidden...15:35
jimjust booted normally15:35
Pedare you sure you didn15:35
jimi edited it as it instructed me to15:35
Ped't install over whole HDD?15:35
Jucatoin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, see if there's a hidden=true line15:35
DaSkreechjim: you may have a hidden option enabled in grub15:35
jimjust checking15:35
jimi cant see it15:38
jimhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63630/15:38
Pedyou should have somewhere in the /grub/menu.lst also few lines beginning with title Windows...blah blah (followed by root (hdx,x) very likely)15:39
jimi did a search but no luck15:39
Pedjim: it's not there15:39
jimso what am i doing wrong ?15:40
DaSkreech!paste | jim15:40
ubotujim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:40
DaSkreechcan you paste the menu.lst file there?15:41
jimI DID paste DAskreech15:41
jim00:38] <jim> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63630/ <-------------=============15:41
Pedjim: sudo fdisk -l15:41
DaSkreechjim: ah right :)15:42
jimi did that before15:42
Pedjim: it should list all partitions on HDDs, and somewhere the NTFS (or FAT32) partition with your windows should be visible in that list15:43
jimhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63631/15:43
Pedjim: unless you did full HDD install by accident..15:43
jimnah i didnt ! i checked before they both work but only 1 at a time....15:44
makdaknifedoes the kubuntu package of ffmpeg still not support lamemp3 encoding?15:44
jimjust cant get it to let ME chose15:44
Pedok, /dev/hda2 looks like your windows partition.. this should now somehow go into your grub/menu.lst ... I wonder if I will manage to that, I hope here's somebody more skilled with grub, because I'm quite noob at it15:44
jimgot more skill in your lil finger than you think15:45
* DaSkreech wiggles his lil finger15:46
makdaknifethat's a skillful finger15:46
PedI think the correct way now should look like running grub, searching for /dev/hda2 there to get some (hdx,x) where it is, and than add that to menu.lst  (my problem is the search for (hdx,x) parameters magic)15:47
cannonhey all, is there an archive program that shows the progress of extraction?15:47
jimim getting to love linux its SOOO involved but it takes aaaaaaaaaaaages to fix things ! i guess this is all about the learning15:47
DaSkreechjim I assume you read grub ?15:47
DaSkreech!grub15:47
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:47
jimyeh15:47
jimi did all that15:48
Pedjim: well, basically I'm not sure how you got into this state... I did install kubuntu like 5 times, always used liveCD and installer there, and it went smoothly with creating menu.lst for me :)15:48
jimhahah15:48
jimthats cool15:48
jimthats the story of my life with linux15:48
DaSkreechjim: Why don't you just add in the Windows section yourself?15:48
jimdunno how15:48
Pedhe doesn't need how to repair grub, he needs how to repair windows... :)15:48
DaSkreechjim: or is it that you are not getting a menu at all15:48
jimno menu15:49
PedDaSkreech: I can help him with adding windows section, if somebody will tell me what is correct (hd?,?) for him15:49
DaSkreechhda is hd015:49
jim215:49
Ped(hd0,2) than I think15:50
DaSkreechhda1 is hd0,015:50
Pedno.. (hd0,1) more likely15:50
DaSkreechhda2 is hd0,115:50
Pedyeah, that's it15:50
jim1 is windows 2 is linux15:50
jimits 1 HDD partitioned15:50
Pedjim: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst  (if it is located there)... search for "example" with windows... copy that, uncomment it, and edit the (hd...) thingy15:51
cannonwhats a good archiving tool?15:51
cannoni am finding ark to be very slow15:51
Peduh.. "copy that" in nano may be beyond my knowledge.. (I use "joe" editor)15:51
Pedcannon: command line?15:51
cannoni'd prefer one with a gui15:52
DaSkreechPed: it has instructions at the bottom of the screen15:52
jimhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63633/15:52
jimthis is beyond me15:53
jimwhich one do i chose15:53
Pedjim: go down until you see "Windows" on commented line15:54
Pedline 3915:54
jimwhre do you see line 39 it only goes to 2415:55
Pedjim: your own menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63630/15:56
DaSkreechjim: nope yours goes to 14615:56
jimok found it15:56
Pedjim: you need to copy lines 39 to 42, uncomment them, and change (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)15:57
jimwhat do you mean by "uncomment then"15:58
Jucatoremove the # at the beginning of the line15:58
Peddelete the "#" character at start of line15:58
DaSkreechjim: Sorry in linux # is  a comment15:58
jimok15:59
DaSkreechit means everything after that # in the line is ignored by the computer15:59
DaSkreechit's good rule of thumb15:59
* jim calls it Hash15:59
jimok thats done15:59
jimsave it yeh  ?16:00
pietje_phuckDaSkreech: indeed as 9 out of 10 aplication follow that16:00
Pedsave, reboot16:00
jimok brb16:00
Pedgotta go too, bye all :)16:00
pietje_phucklol16:00
Pedwill I wait if he shows up? hmmm ... :) I wonder whether that win partition is healthy enough to boot :D16:01
jimok i exited too quickly16:01
Ped:D what's up?16:01
jimit wouldnt let me save cause im not root16:01
jimhow do i go root16:02
Pedyeah, how did you start to edit it?16:02
jimjust punched in the keys thats it16:02
jimthen pressed save16:02
PedI mean how did you launch the nano editor?16:02
Pedthat "sudo" ahead of it should have gave you root rights16:02
jimjust double clicked the icon16:03
jimin kate i think16:03
DaSkreechjim: alt+F2 -> kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst16:03
Pedkdesudo? I was expecting kdesu ?16:04
jimok im in16:04
jimdo i do it again16:04
ubuntu_Hello16:04
DaSkreechjim: Si16:04
DaSkreechHI16:04
ubuntu_I'm french so I'll explain my problem but it will be dificult for make me understand ^^16:05
DaSkreech!fr16:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:05
jimok it worked16:05
jimbrb16:05
ubuntu_Thank you16:06
DaSkreechubuntu_: bienvenue16:07
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=== Jim is now known as Jimm1
Jimm1ok that didnt work16:12
Jimm1it just loaded into windows and didnt give me an option to chose which OS i want16:13
Jimm1im on the live cd atm16:13
Jimm1mabie ill try16:13
Jimm1!grub16:13
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:13
Jimm1!Grub16:13
Pedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63630/16:13
Jimm1again16:13
Pedjimm1: see line 19 and 2316:13
Pedjimm1: those should explain it to you16:14
Jimm1Fk16:14
Jimm1ok so just delete that whole section yeh16:14
Jimm1wait16:15
Jimm1thats not the menu16:15
Pedjimm1: just put hash ahead of line 2316:15
Pedbut you have to edit that file on HDD ... I suggest to reboot and press Esc to see menu16:15
Jimm1if i press esc it goes into a diff menu ! linux stuff (safe mode bla bla)16:15
Pedand boot from HDD, not from CD16:15
Pedthat's too late probably, after the 3s timeout16:16
Pedor too soon (BIOS menu?)16:16
Jimm1thats a diff menu16:16
Jimm1not windows/ubuntu menu16:16
Pedsafe mode is windows boot loader already, so it's probably too late.16:16
Jimm1ok so whats the quickest and easiest way out of this ?16:17
PedBTW, you can edit that file from live session... just use the second button down to open "Storage media"16:17
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Pedthan you will have to guess correctly on which partition the /boot/grub/menu.lst resides... than you will have to run kdesudo kate again on it...16:18
DaSkreechJimm1: You may want to put your timeout for longer while testing16:18
Jimm1wont let me look inside16:19
DaSkreechSorry?16:19
DaSkreechwhat won't?16:19
Jimm1storage media is blank16:19
Jimm1if i click the HDD16:19
Jimm1i cant see anything in it16:19
Jimm1hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99916:21
Pedsh*t.. maybe live session is not good enough for that :/16:22
Jimm1lol16:22
Jimm1can i do this anothe way16:23
Pedtry reboot without CD with Esc to see menu :( ... sorry, I was not aware of that16:23
Jimm1like windows or something ? You guys where saying you can do it through windows too16:23
Jimm1ok16:23
Jimm1brb16:23
DaSkreechjim: Oh I know what that it16:28
DaSkreechis16:28
DaSkreechWhere are you now?16:28
jimhahah16:28
jimit worked16:28
jim:D16:28
* jim dances16:28
jimok now i gotta change the hidden thing and then the time16:29
Pedjim: now use kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst  to edit some nicer defaults.. .like not hidden and/or longer timeout16:29
DaSkreechjim: The Hidden thing is cool :)16:29
DaSkreechIt's less frightening16:29
PedI use graphical sudo at home :) .. with 10s timeout16:29
DaSkreechBut it's linux man make it what you want it to be16:29
PedI like that red skin I got from somewhere :)16:30
Pedgraphical grub, not sudo :( :/16:30
jim## hiddenmenu16:30
jim# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)16:30
jimhiddenmenu16:30
jimok should i take off the hash16:31
Pedadd them :)16:31
jimand delete hiddenmenu16:31
Jucato(you should add the #)16:31
Pedto make it a comment16:31
Jucatoadd the # before the plain hiddenmenu line16:31
jimok16:31
Pedif you already have one commented, delete the whole line if you wish16:31
Jucatothe first one (## hiddenmenu) is supposed to be a section title16:31
jimso what do i chance that 216:32
Pedhmm.. the 8.04 preRC warned me the mounted /boot partition will be overwritten anyway during install .. I wonder what kind of mess I will end up... maybe soon I will be fixing my own grub :D16:33
jimlol well we are all practicing here on my computer16:33
jimhahaha16:33
Pedjim: ? just make sure no "hiddenmenu" is on line without hash ... no matter how many there are with hashes, those are just comments16:33
jimok cool16:34
jimso just save again and reboot16:34
PedI'm missing an option to not install grub at all and let me figure it manually... or was it hidden inside that "Advanced" button in Step 5 of ubiquity?16:35
jimalllllllllllllllllllllll rigggggggggggght16:38
jimit worked16:38
* jim dances :D16:38
jimTHANKS HEAPS YOU GUYS16:38
Pedjim: I still wonder how you managed to install grub without the windows option...16:38
Pedjim: np, GL, I'm going now, bye16:38
jimyeh a lil windows apears now16:38
Jucatowhew... that took  a while :)16:38
jimHAHAHAHAH man you should have been in my shoes for the past 3 days ! this is all i have been doing, if its not the nvidia driver its the screen if its not that its compiz if its not that its the dual boot16:39
jimi havent finished with compiz yet and my printer doesnt work with kubuntu16:40
jimbut i cbfed tonight  ! its almost 2am16:40
jimill come back tomorrow and work on the printer solution :)16:40
jimcheers guys im off16:41
DaSkreechjim: Night!16:41
DaSkreechthe fun part is once you get stuff setup it's posibly years before you mess with it again16:41
DaSkreechI likeLinux :)16:41
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carlosgomeshi16:46
nosrednaekimhi carlosgomes16:47
riccardohi16:49
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=== riccardo is now known as rici12
rich__hi17:11
JoshOvkihi rich__17:12
rich__ive just installed kubuntu 8.04 with kde 317:12
rich__is it worth upgrading to kde4 yet?17:12
JoshOvkii have both KDE3 and KDE4 installed17:12
DaSkreechrich__: possibly17:12
DaSkreechrich__: That's a very personal question17:12
JoshOvkiKDE4 isnt quite finished, so i would recommend having both17:13
rich__ok, thanks. when should kde 4 be ready?17:13
nosrednaekimI use kde4, but quite a few kde applications17:13
nosrednaekim*kde317:13
DaSkreechI use KDE4 pure17:13
JoshOvkiDaSkreech: wat irc program u using?17:14
DaSkreechrich__: again. Pretty personal :) I think that by 4.1 most people are going to be ok with it17:14
DaSkreech4.2 sould be stellar17:14
DaSkreechso maybe 4.1.4 ?17:14
DaSkreechJoshOvki: I don't IRC.. oh wait ... umm irssi17:14
rich__thanks ill stick with kde3 for now17:14
JoshOvkiah kk :)17:15
DaSkreechrich__: Cool give it a look again when 4.1 ships :)17:15
rich__can u tell me when that will be?17:15
DaSkreechJuly17:16
rich__awesome i was expecting it to be next autumn17:17
DaSkreechNope17:17
DaSkreech6 month schedule17:17
DaSkreech new bugfixes every month new big release every 6 months17:17
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crackerhi all17:24
nosrednaekimhey cracker17:24
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Hardy Kubuntu (KDE3) Pre-orders https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 | 8.04 RC Out: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/RC/Kubuntu
Riddell8.04 RC Out: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/RC/Kubuntu17:25
RiddellHardy Kubuntu (KDE3) Pre-orders https://shipit.kubuntu.org17:25
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nosrednaekimcoolo.... lets watch the mirrors groan :)17:25
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crackerwho know about ubuntu week?17:28
CYREXGood day everyone17:29
nosrednaekimcracker: not sure when the hext one is17:30
nosrednaekim*next17:31
nosrednaekimhell CYREX17:31
nosrednaekim*hello17:31
CYREXI see that the release candidate includes the 2.6.24-16.30 of Ubuntu but will the final version include Kernel 2.6.25 since it came out yesterday17:31
CYREXjust asking because of the wifi issues in the .2517:31
crackeri'm waiting for final kubuntu release!can't wait17:32
JoshOvkicracker: going to be waiting a long long time for the final kubuntu release ;)17:32
crackerjoshovki-sure.. which version you are using now?17:34
nosrednaekimCYREX: no.... 24 is going to be in final17:34
JoshOvkicracker: sorry i was being too litral with the final version17:34
crackerjoshovki-it's ok.i'm just install kubuntu 3 days ago.. i found it really nice!17:35
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CYREXoki thank you17:37
crackerhi cyrex17:38
nosrednaekimcracker: so you are using hardy?17:39
crackeryes..8.417:39
crackerthe beta version17:39
nosrednaekim8.04 BTW... 8.4 sould mean that it was released in the 40th month of the year ;)17:40
crackersorry!i'm newbie..so not really sure about that17:40
mr_marvin_hi all. silly question, but i can't find where to set up time afer which PC shuts down/hibernates. is there some command?17:41
nosrednaekimits ok... just warning you17:41
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: I think guidance powermanager has it17:41
nosrednaekimor are you on a desktop?17:41
mr_marvin_yes, on a desktop...17:42
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: ah, then I don't know where to set it17:43
mr_marvin_what is a cosole command for starting power manager? i can's find it in menus, maybe becuse i switched from gnome.17:43
nosrednaekimits not in the menu's... and i'm not sure it will work on a desktop. try "guidance-power-manager"17:44
mr_marvin_hm... guidance-power-manager says: This is not a laptop, quitting ...17:45
nosrednaekim:)17:46
nosrednaekim I think we can force that17:46
nosrednaekimjust a sec17:46
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: run "sudo kate /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance-powermanager/powermanage.py"17:49
nosrednaekimand remove the # mark from in front of the "IS_LAPTOP = True" line17:49
mr_marvin_ok, thank you17:50
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: you'll have to that again if you update the guidance-powermanager package though17:51
equexis ther6.e a chan for17:52
equexerr17:53
equexis there a chan for the 6.06 lts version ? i need some help getting flac to work with xmms, seems there was something wrong with the current plugin and i dont have the old one17:54
nosrednaekimthis is the correct channel17:55
nosrednaekimthough I have no clue about that question :)17:55
equexoki :)17:55
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Piciequex: this channel or #ubuntu17:55
equexive tried to download some sources and compile them but the build breaks17:56
equexso i guess its not the right package i found17:56
mr_marvin_problems, again... "guidance-power-manager.py: cannot connect to X server :0.0"17:57
equexits flac-1.2.0-linux-i386.tar.gz that supposedly works, but it wont comile all of it, stops before it gets to the xmms-flac section17:57
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: thats probably ok.17:57
kaminix!mediubuntu17:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:57
kaminix!medibuntu17:57
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:57
mr_marvin_but i have no power management window?17:59
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: you running that from a konsole?17:59
nosrednaekimmr_marvin_: eh.. forget this... just install kpowersave17:59
mr_marvin_yes, form console... ok :)) kpowersave then18:00
nosrednaekimyeah I forgot about kpowersave18:01
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emilsedghis guidance-power-manager ported to kde4?18:02
bolderhi18:02
nosrednaekimno18:02
bolderdown18:02
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emilsedghnosrednaekim: and there is no plan to port it?18:03
emilsedghwhat about knetworkmanager?18:03
kaminixWhere can I find the new Kubuntu repositories?18:03
nosrednaekimemilsedgh: knetworkmanager is being ported18:04
mr_marvin_problems, kpowersave krashed... is there any way to say linux not to shut down ever?18:04
suihi18:04
emilsedghgood nosrednaekim, where could i get the source? suse repo's?18:04
nosrednaekimemilsedgh: I'm not sure actually... I'd ask some suse people18:05
emilsedghok ok thanks nosrednaekim, i dont really use it.just wanted to give it a try18:05
emilsedghkbluetooth, guidance-power-manager and knetworkmanager are missing in kde418:05
kaminixWhat's hardy-proposed? Do I want that?18:05
nosrednaekimkaminix: thats probably empty ATM18:06
kaminixBut will I want it later? What's in it?18:06
tzangergood afternoon18:07
nosrednaekimmostly testing packages for later inclusion to universe or main I believe18:07
nosrednaekimyou probably do not want it18:07
nosrednaekimafternoon tzanger18:08
tzangersystem reset while doing an update, I ran dpkg --configure -a as it recommended but I need to reinstall the poppler package... so apt-get install --reinstall libpoppler2 libpopper2-qt re-downloads it but still fails18:08
tzangerany ideas?18:08
tzangerdpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format error18:08
tzangerI figured re-downloading the package would have fixed that18:08
kaminixOnce I've updated my sources list so it'll include all hardy repos, is a aptitude full-upgrade enough?18:11
nosrednaekimkaminix: I used apt-get dist-upgrade18:11
nosrednaekimyou should refresh your packages lists too18:11
kaminixWas it enough?18:12
nosrednaekimyeah... after running "apt-get update"18:12
nosrednaekimworked perfectly18:12
kaminixYes, refreshing packages right now.18:12
kaminixAdded all canonical repositories too, any reason I should not?18:12
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nosrednaekimthey might not be ready for hardy, but it can't hurt18:13
kaminixThey have a hardy repo anyway ^^18:13
kaminix1299 updated packages available ^^18:14
bolder!ping18:24
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore18:24
Teo-can i fix the hijack on acer ??18:25
techbwhi all, just want to know if there is a way that I can make an image of a kubuntu installation for backup purposes. The whole HDD via a network on a live system18:25
equexx crashed18:25
equexso say i give up on compiling the xmms flac plugin... is there a player that can play flac files from a whared drive out of the box ?18:26
equexshared*18:26
nosrednaekimequex: did you try amarok?18:27
suitechbw: if you want to create an image you can use dd, tar or rsync18:27
equexnosrednaekim: yeah i think so, will try now again18:28
techbwis there a step by step that you know of, have been searching for a way to do it on google, but search results do not match with what I would like to do18:29
suitechbw: dd makes a opy of a whole partition including all not used space. tar and rsync make "simple" copies of your hdd18:29
techbwcan I just tar the whole drive, and untar when required18:29
nosrednaekimtechbw: of the whole partition, ye18:29
suitechbw: if you tar your partition you can untar it. but you will need a live-cd after untaring, because tar does not make a copy of your bootsecor18:30
scott__is there a change I need to make to the source.lst to upgrade to the Kubuntu 8.04 RC18:30
suitechbw: if you tar your partition you can untar it. but you will need a live-cd after untaring, because tar does not make a copy of your bootsecor18:30
techbwwhat command would i use to backup using dd, and to restore the backup, that sounds like Ghost for windows18:31
techbwwill I be able to restore to a smaller hard drive or only larger hard drive18:32
techbwif18:32
techbwI am only using 3-7 gig but current hdd is 40gig, and want to put on 10 gig?18:32
techbwwould dd do the job18:32
nosrednaekimI think you can restore to a smaller Hard drive18:33
techbwas long as data does not exceed the size of the drive :-)18:33
user1how to mount an iso cd image into cd rom drive? i dont want to write the alternate cd to upgrade?18:34
suitechbw: no, you cant dd on a smaller hdd18:34
suitechbw: you need exactly the same amount of free space on your backup-drive18:35
suitechbw: that's one of the disadvantages of dd18:35
techbwaaah! so only to larger disk18:35
scott__is there a change I need to make to the source.lst to upgrade to the Kubuntu 8.04 RC18:35
suitechbw: you need exactly the same space18:35
techbwif I then tar the hdd and untar on target machine, how would i get the system to boot again,18:36
techbwis there no software like ghost for windows, that can be used on ex3 fs18:36
lup0scott__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu18:36
suitechbw: you need a live-cd like (k)ubuntu. and you have to restore your bootmanager18:37
MIMB1I'm running kubuntu, and I (somehow) enabled compiz.  I did it so long ago that I can't remember how to disable it.  How do I turn off desktop effects?18:37
user1 how to mount an iso cd image into cd rom drive? i dont want to write the alternate cd to upgrade?18:37
suitechbw: i don't know any graphical program like this.18:37
scott__lup0  I tried that and it will not give me the upgrade button.  That's why I'm wondering if I need to change something in my source list18:37
lup0MIMB1: you proabably need to clear your session18:38
techbwany command line prog that can do it?18:38
lup0scott__: aah, there was a typo or something, change proposed to devel18:38
lup0scott__: in the command18:38
suitechbw: but i'm not really interested in such programs, 'cause i know what to do on a console18:38
lup0scott__: kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"18:38
techbwdo you have any tutorial on doing this somewhere?18:39
nosrednaekimtechbw: you'd need to do a grub-install from a liveCD18:39
suitechbw: mom,18:39
nosrednaekimafter untaring on the other drive18:39
scott__lup0 that was it, thanks for the help :)18:39
lup0scott__: I was wondering about the same thing 2 hours ago18:39
techbwso basically run live-cd after untaring and then run command grub-install18:40
suitechbw: this howto is gentoo-related, but you should find the information you need: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Custom_Stage418:40
scott__someone should go on there and change that then :)18:40
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techbwmuch appreciated ... don't want to start on the moving from one system to another untill I have all facts, don't want to break the system18:41
techbwif I have a working copy of the same version with diffirent configs, can I just copy the one that has the progs already configured to the new system?18:41
techbwthat would be able to sort my problems out without cloning the entire system18:42
techbwI think will just tar old system, and untar on new system. thanks guys18:43
suitechbw: on another machine i would prefer a new install. i suppose you have another mainboard, processor etc.18:43
doml_hi all.  I'm trying to create an xpm file for a grub bootsplash image.   it's a simple white+grey logo on a black background.  it looks okay after I convert it to 14 color xpm when viewing it in my work environment, yet when I reboot, the white shows up as a garish pink or green or something like that.  is there some recommended way / tools for creating these boot images?18:43
doml_just really really simple18:43
techbwyeah have the whole setup, but took me 3 weeks to configure the old system, so don't want to spend so much time again to configure the new system, can't even remember what I had problems with18:44
suitechbw: it's a nice experiment taring the system. give it a try. but be prepared to make a new install :)18:44
suitechbw: but you are experienced now and you will learn a lot ;)18:45
techbwwell if it does not work, then it does not work, then will spend 3 weeks learning it all over again, freeradius and radiusmanager setup18:45
techbwit just did not work the first time round ended up getting tech support to do it18:45
techbwnow I would like to just migrate to the new system18:45
suitechbw: have fun18:46
techbwlol will give it a shot...will also read the page on taring and untaring to new drive18:46
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techbwI love the live-cd stuff cos if I can't get it to work run the live-cd then go online, ask for help18:47
techbwgettting used to the *nix stuff, will eventually migrate my personal pc to *nix, kubuntu only though tried others not very comfy with them18:48
techbwwith u guys here, I have learned alot, so thanks goes out to all the guys that help!!!!!18:48
techbw!!!it is much appreciated!!!!18:48
Picitechbw: ignore the message from the bot18:49
techbwk18:49
techbwwhat was that about anyways18:49
nosrednaekimtec have fu:)n18:50
nosrednaekimtechbw: have fun :)18:50
matthew_how can i know what package provides what file?18:50
techbwwill be, i love chalenges, so exersize the grey matter18:50
techbwa little18:50
airer-girlhi so i downloaded kubuntu livecd and it doesnt work18:51
techbwhow do u guys get the text to stand out like that?18:51
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airer-girlit boots up, then stops ata  black screen, i do ps aux and see x running18:51
Davieymatthew_: apt-file18:51
matthew_thanks18:51
airer-girlanyone?18:53
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equexnosrednaekim: amarok seems not to be able to browse network shares...19:01
user1when i try to upgrade kubuntu to hardy by alternate cd, it asks and tries to download latest packages. i dont want that. i want it to upgrade from cd only. how can i do it?19:01
equexworks from konqueror and from bash19:01
equexso i guess i set it up right19:01
SlimeyPeteuser1: best to ask in #ubuntu+119:02
flipstarwhy is #kubuntu-testers not on irclogs.ubuntu.com ? is it anywhere else ?19:07
ddurhamis there a package I can install for kde4 that will give me the cube effect for switching between workspaces?19:10
ubuntuOpa19:11
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flipstarddurham: you probably talking about compiz..?19:14
ddurhamah, ok, I don't know that I want to use that19:14
flipstarhm search for desktop effekts or so in kmenu19:14
ddurhamwell, I know where the desktop effects are configured19:15
ddurhambut I didn't see one for cube switching19:15
ddurhamwondering if there was a package19:15
ddurhamKDE4 doesn't use compiz by default, right?19:15
ddurhamdoesn't it use kwin or something19:15
ddurhamplasma?19:16
SSJ_GZddurham: kwin19:16
flipstarddurham: maybe take a look at compizconfig-settings-manager formely known as ccsm19:16
flipstarbbl19:16
equexlol i mounted it somewhere else heh19:16
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ubuntu__eae moral19:18
nonewmsgmy hardy's wired conection doesnt work.  it detects the ethernet cards but says it cannot get a dhcp addresss.  it's a nvidia19:19
nonewmsgoops wrong tab19:19
nonewmsgthat was meant for ubuntu+119:19
PendetaWe have 2 windows XP computers and 3 Kubuntu computers on a LAN. One of the XP computers can be accessed. The other one produces a "server timed out" error message. Any idea what might be wrong?19:21
nonewmsgcan you ping them19:22
PendetaHold...I'll try.19:23
nonewmsgare the XP machines firewalled?  (i have had much trouble with something that simple)19:24
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Pendetanonewmsg, so to take so long (new to Linux). Yes, I can ping the XP computer. Firewall is turned off.19:34
Pendetaso = sorry19:34
nonewmsgok19:34
nonewmsgand you are trying to conect via VNC or ssh, or samba19:34
Pendetasamba, I think.19:35
PendetaI just want to use the printer on the XP machine from the Kubuntu machines.19:36
nonewmsgcan you access the xp computer from the other xp machine19:36
Pendetanonewmsg, I'll check.19:36
Pendetanonewmsg, no, I cannot connect print from the other XP machine either.19:42
ubuntu!grub19:45
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:45
Pendetanonewmsg, sorry. The page just printed.19:47
nonewmsgohhh you are doing a printer sharing thingy19:47
PendetaYes.19:48
BarbarelloHi, evrbd!19:49
flipstarhi, i need a command/app that replaces certain files in subdirectory's with another file..19:49
BarbarelloTell me plaese, how can i burn a .nrg image in kubuntu?19:49
flipstar!info nrg2iso | Barbarello19:50
ubotubarbarello: nrg2iso (source: nrg2iso): Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB19:50
Barbarellook, thanks!19:51
nonewmsgmv?19:52
bolderbbl19:55
flipstarmv style.css 0*/ now deleted 7 of my dir's19:55
flipstaroO where are they ?19:55
flipstarthe style.css is also gone19:56
Pici0*/ ?19:57
flipstarthe dir's are called 04.18.2008 and so on..so i thought..19:57
flipstar*were19:57
flipstarwhat happend ??19:58
flipstaranyway to get them back ?19:59
ubuntu!grub19:59
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:59
flipstarhelp!! :/19:59
flipstaroh..got them20:00
flipstarseems like there where moved in another dir20:01
user1 i have ugraded from 7.10 to hardy. when i boot. kde gui is not started , instead iam asked about username pasword. when i run mirc by wine, system gets total held. any help?20:01
JoshOvkiwhy are you trying to use mirc?:S20:03
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user1JoshOvki:  i like it. thats why20:08
bcmlanyone know how to increase the font size in Google Earth?20:08
user1bcml:  do you know how to zoom more?20:09
bcmluser1: no how do i do that?20:10
user1bcml:  i just asked u20:11
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BarbarelloHi. I have a .tar.gz archive of the distr of thr program. How to extract it properly?20:13
Barbarellothere's a .c file and makefile inside. What should i do?20:14
basy!remote desktop20:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:17
dthacker!rdesktop | basy20:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:18
basyHi, im looking for easy to use remote desktop server for kubuntu... i want to connect my kub from vista...20:20
Barbarello!makefile20:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about makefile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:23
a_c_mhey all20:24
BarbarelloHi! How to make .c file eecutable?20:25
Barbarello*executable?20:25
a_c_mBarbarello .c files are source code (if i recall correctly)20:25
J4Mcompile it?20:25
a_c_mso you would need to compile it20:25
a_c_mAnyone ever had the problem kubuntu times out when trying to assocate with an AP ?20:26
Barbarelloso, how to compile?20:26
a_c_mActivation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long (>60s), failing activation.20:26
Barbarelloi've a makefile in the dir too.20:26
a_c_mrun the makefile20:26
J4Mgo into that dir in a terminal20:26
J4Mand type make20:26
Barbarelloso?20:26
Barbarellojust errors :(20:27
a_c_mright20:27
a_c_mso fix the errors its probably your missing header/libs20:27
Barbarellodamn.20:27
Barbarellook. Remember me how to get a repo from terminal?20:28
J4Mdo you have the build essentials?20:29
BarbarelloAPT-GET?20:29
J4Myes20:29
Barbarelloi have build essentials20:29
flipstarBarbarello: to make a c file into a executeable type gcc -o <name> <name.c> but this is probably not what you want20:29
Barbarelloi'll try!20:30
Barbarellono :( it was not right (20:31
Barbarelloi've found it in repo, thanks!20:32
Barbarellosee ya20:32
Odd-rationaleif i do kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-proposed" do I get kde 3 or 4?20:37
fdovingOdd-rationale: my guess is kde3.20:39
Odd-rationalefdoving: that is what i'm thinking, too.20:40
Odd-rationalebest way to get kubuntu-kde4 is to reinstall?20:40
* Odd-rationale is ok with that...20:40
fdovingyou can just apt-get it, or install it in adept_manager.20:40
fdovingkde3 and kde4 can co-exist.20:41
BluesKajyup, just choose your desktop at the login menu to whatever suits your fancy kde3 or 4 ...4 hasn't done much for me tho :P20:45
equexamarok says "there is no audio channel" when trying to play flac. mp3 works. does this mean libflac isnt installed correctly ?20:47
equexi installed the amarok extras20:47
yuggeHello20:50
yuggeI have some problem, I was using virtual boy advance earlier today but noticed the terrible sound quality, so I google for help and found a refference to a person who used an "EXPORT something" command to change the soundsystem to oss, he did mentioned that it should be tunneled back to ALSA anyway, I thought "well, it's just an export, I could change it back" so I tried it out20:52
yuggewell, it didn't work20:52
yuggeand I thought I reset it20:52
yuggebut now my sounds borked20:52
jdunnhello20:52
yuggeanyone know what EXPORT that would be to reset the soundsystem to ALSA and what it should be set to?20:53
ubuntu_hi.  i need an iso from my disk.  i'm on a live cd.  how do i access my disk?20:53
yuggeubuntu_, mount your disc?20:53
flipstarcan i prevent konqueror from asking to overwrite a file ?20:53
flipstari have to overwrite dozen of files and it slowly gets annoying :/20:55
ubuntu_what is remote share?  unionfs?20:55
TooEarlyhow do i resume from rsync, if i used ssh and a different port. i can't get it to work right20:56
yuggeah20:59
yuggeexport SDL_AUDIODRIVER=oss" was the one20:59
yuggehowever SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa doesnt work21:00
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lovelyhello, I just got a windows only samsung mp3 player givin to me and I was informed how to mount it as a drive, but forgot.. it was late... never mind, I know to start in /dev but ...21:12
lovelycd /dev21:12
lovelyoops21:13
lovelyhello, I just got a windows only samsung mp3 player givin to me and I was informed how to mount it as a drive, but forgot.. it was late... never mind, I know to start in /dev but ...21:13
lovely?21:14
ddurhamhey, I'm having an issue with openvpn21:16
ddurhamis this an ok forum for a quesiton about that?21:16
lovelyheck if I know, seems dead21:17
flipstarlovely: if its plugged in type a <sudo fdisk -l> in a shell21:18
flipstarto gather the device name21:18
robf_whats the easiest method of connecting to a vpn via kubuntu21:19
flipstarrobf_: i think knetworkmanager can handle it21:20
flipstarrobf_: install network-manager-openvpn first, of corse21:21
robf_flipstar:  I guess that isn't installed by default ;p21:21
robf_ok21:21
nick_Hey guys!  What should I search for to print to a windows shared network printer from a ubuntu server installation?  I see a lot of CUPS info, but it looks like that is for printers attached to the server.21:21
xoqais firefox 3.0 the default firefox downloaded always?... because ...i had installed 3.0 to check it out.. removed it... and then installed the package "firefox" and recieved 3.0... however... it's slightly unstable for work21:21
ddurhamrobf_: install network-manager-openvpn21:21
xoqait crashes while using gmail often.. usually when i click compose or try chatting with workers through the site21:22
flipstarxoqa: you're probably at hardy..so install firefox-2 and yes, ff3 is default in hardy21:22
BluesKajfirefox 3 is still beta21:22
nick_ff3 in hardy seems stable.  I'm a heavy gmail user.21:22
xoqaokay, i'll try downloading firefox-2 and see how that goes21:23
xoqanick_: i wish this were so here21:23
lovelyflipstar: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1202321:23
BluesKajxoqa, whynot just install the package from synaptic , apt or adept ?21:23
flipstarxoqa: maybe it are plugins/addons that are unstable..?21:23
xoqaflipstar: ah, firebug may be causing problems21:24
xoqaBluesKaj: not sure what you are getting at, i do use those programs :)21:24
flipstarlovely: sadly there's no usb drive listed21:24
BluesKajstability , xoqa21:25
lovelyflipstar: right, the samsung shows up as a camera.21:25
xoqaaaah, it was firebug21:25
flipstarlovely: hm..maybe you'll find it in systemsettings>advanced>disk's21:26
myk_robinsonhey. How do I add samba as a startup servide? I always have to manually start it at boot by running /etc/init.d/samba start21:28
flipstarmyk_robinson: in services..?21:28
lovelyflipstar: sadly no, but shows on the desktop as USB Vendor Specific Interface with a location on / (camera)21:29
flipstarlovely: hm then you probably can access it in system:/media21:29
myk_robinsonflipstar: where is this located?21:29
administratorHello!21:30
flipstarlovely: can't you click on it ?21:30
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flipstarmyk_robinson: systemsettings>advanced>services21:30
robf_anyone have a quick howto uri for knetworkmanager vpn access =).... I've never really done much with vpns and now I have to =\21:30
myk_robinsonfound it in systemsettings. Isnt there a command i can type to add this to all runlevels?21:30
myk_robinsonalso, what is the "normal" runlevel?21:30
robf_perhaps default is a better term21:31
lovelyflipstar: yes I can click on it, it is not listed in /media21:31
flipstarmyk_robinson: try rcconf21:31
BobbberHello... I need some help with packages here.  I don't seem to be able to do anything without dpkg hanging on dkms?!?!?!21:31
flipstarlovely: system:/media .. just copy and paste that to konqueror21:31
myk_robinsonstrange. I am in runlevel 2, which i guess is the default. The System Services gui shows samba set to start on boot.... But it doesnt. any ideas?21:32
robf_myk_robinson: is it trying to start and just failing?21:33
robf_does anyone have a quick howto for VPN access via kubuntu,21:33
myk_robinsonnot sure. I can just tell you that it isnt starting.. When i run the command /etc/init.d/samba start, it starts with no problem at all21:33
lovelyflipstar: nope, no love there. camera://Samsung%20YP-T7J@[usb:004,005]/ is the address in konqueror21:33
myk_robinsoni guess i could just add a shell script to ~/.kde/Autostart, but that's a cheesy workaround21:33
flipstarmyk_robinson: won't work try <sysv-rc-conf>21:34
myk_robinsoni'll give it a shot in a bit.. Just got a work call, gotta go.21:34
myk_robinsonThanks21:34
level1_what package replaces console-data in hardy?21:35
lovelyflipstar: there has to be a way to force mount as a drive so that I can then add music... or do I bite the bullet and try to get winblows media player to work in wine?21:35
robf_ /j kde21:38
ddurhamrobf_: if you install the network-manager-openvpn package, you get a vpn connections in the network manager configuration21:41
ddurhamrobf_: are you setting up the client and the server, or just setting up your client?21:41
ddurhamrobf_: you might need to restart some stuff to get the network manager changes after installing the network-manager-openvpn package21:42
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guevarabuenas21:46
calinoursye des francais?21:47
calinoursje suis complement paumer là21:47
equexso there will for sure not be a new kubuntu 8.04 lts ? ...i kind of want to upgrade my 6.06.221:48
calinourshallooooooooooo21:49
equexbut i guess i have to clean install21:49
Daisuke_Laptopthere will *not* be a kubuntu LTS this time around, correct21:49
nick_How do I determine the URI of a samba shared printer?  I'm trying to add it to CUPS via the web interface.21:49
Daisuke_Laptopkde's development schedule fell badly between 3 and 4, with 3 apparently EOLing before the LTS time period expires, and 4.x isn't mature enough for an LTS release21:50
equexokies21:56
equex:(21:57
BluesKajI'd like to a one time backup of /home , including all .* hidden files so that I can reinstate my kde settings in kmail, Firefox and other important apps and scripts that I need to get rolling after a clean Hardy install ....any suggestions ?22:01
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: i'll tell you what not to do22:01
Daisuke_Laptopdon't just copy the whole home folder to another drive and then install with a different username and expect things not to suck22:02
BluesKajI need to do a clean reinstall Daisuke_Laptop , cuz cupsys is badly broken so package mabager upgrade is out of the question22:02
BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, that didn't occur to me ...just want to save kamil , FF, and python script/app settings22:04
BluesKajgawd my spelling sucks22:04
Daisuke_Laptopif you install using the same username, it wouldn't be a bad solution22:04
Daisuke_Laptopbut i was a dummy22:05
BluesKajalways22:05
Daisuke_Laptopa really big dummy22:05
Daisuke_Laptopwhich reminds me, i've been upgrading this lappy since feisty, on hardy now...  i should just do a fresh install, might fix some of my suspend issues22:05
gon!eclipse22:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:06
equexi wish there was a way to keep most settings and install all the packeges i have in 6,06 on a clean 8.04 install...22:06
equex:)22:07
equexomg huhu i got flac to work in amarok22:07
equextrough a samba share22:08
equexnow were talking22:08
PeterFAWhat's the quickest way to get a lamp going? I need to develop Joomla! templates and now I need a local copy of Apache and friends running.22:15
nonewmsglamp is an option on the server disks PeterFA22:26
Jucato!lamp | PeterFA22:27
ubotuPeterFA: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)22:27
jhutchins_wkPeterFA: There's usually a howto in theactual lamp package, Joomla I guess.  Install apache, php, MySQL, follow the find directions.22:27
PeterFAI'm just hoping to find a quick and easy way. I don't have a spare computer, but plenty of hd space. I'd do it via another computer if I could. Anyways, I just did it the manual way, going through synaptic searching for each piece.22:28
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nicolashow i change my resolution un xubuntu/kubuntu22:44
JucatoKubuntu: K Menu -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display22:44
JucatoXubuntu: #xubuntu :)22:44
benpiccoHi, some way to get rid of system:/media in konqueror?22:46
user1_error setting up inter-process communication for kde, could not read connection list,  /home/user1/.DCOPserver_computer1_0   please check dcopserver runing?22:53
nicolaswhat the channel for ppc user ?22:53
nicolasps3 user22:53
Daisuke_Laptopchannel for ps3 users?22:54
Daisuke_Laptop#ipaidtoomuchforthisthing22:54
JoshOvkinicolas:  #ps3dev   #ubuntu-ps3     #ps3Linux22:55
jussio1#ubuntu-powerpc22:55
jussio1or maybe it was -ppc cant remember22:55
Daisuke_Laptopah, for ubuntu on ps3/ppc22:55
* Daisuke_Laptop whistles innocently22:55
JoshOvkijussio1: hey mate22:56
* jussio1 runs22:56
jussio1heya JoshOvki22:56
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ButtBubbleHello. Just downloaded latest Kubuntu KDE4 iso. Big question, Why does file manager refer partitions as Disk-(n) but installer says /dev/sda(n) ???? I have 3 partitions and cannot determine the correct one I want to use ;-\  VERY confusing....23:15
Jucatomight want to try asking in #kubuntu-kde423:16
benpicco_ /dev/sda$n is the actual partition, /media/Disk-$n is jus a mountpoint23:16
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benpicco_you can mount them manualy to see what's on them23:16
benpicco_!mount23:16
stdinthe bot's dead23:17
benpicco_pitty, what killed him?23:17
stdinprobably a mix of lag+sqlite23:17
benpicco_poor bot, may he rest in pices23:18
JucatoI think you meant pieces...23:18
JucatoI think he's more of a capricorn...23:18
ButtBubbleOkay, thx, but here's the situation. I boot live cd, open file manager and determine (using home/<user>), which existing install I want to keep. I start up installer and it uses dev names! Great... I speak Japanese you speak Pekinese. I speak Italian you speak Dutch...23:20
Jucatoinstallers always *always* use device nodes (/dev) names23:21
ButtBubbleExactly. F.M. uses mount names. Not confidence inspiring at all. I don't want to wipe the wrong partition! This is silly. Either the installer or F.M. should reference a common identifier....23:22
nosrednaekimButtBubble: run "mount" and it will tell you which is mounted where23:22
ButtBubbleOk, will do. Thankyou :)23:24
ButtBubbleTime to reboot the LiveCD again... Bye.23:24
stdin*and make sure you unmount them before trying to partition/format23:24
ButtBubbleWell, once I know that /dev/sda<n> = /media/Disk<n> I will use the installer as normal ;)23:25
mwilliamsI am having trouble with Adept23:27
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BluesKajmwilliams, what's the error message ?23:28
* Jucato tries to use ESP to figure out linuxguymarshall's trouble23:28
BluesKaj!adeptfix | linuxguymarshall23:29
stdinBluesKaj: no bot23:29
Jucatobot's dead BluesKaj23:29
BluesKajok23:29
linuxguymarshallBluesKaj:When I start adept I get the following error : "23:29
linuxguymarshallAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).23:29
linuxguymarshallWould you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.23:29
stdinsudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a23:29
stdinerm..23:30
stdinsudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a23:30
Jucatolinuxguymarshall: run that ^^^23:30
* BluesKaj tries to raise the dead bot ... !bot23:30
linuxguymarshallRunning it now23:30
ubuntuahan23:30
ubuntutoo many ppl23:30
ubuntusir i want to ask23:30
linuxguymarshallThis happened right after I ran Adept updater23:30
ubuntuthat i have downloaded23:30
ubuntuboth kubuntu and ubutu23:31
ubuntuwhich one is better to use23:31
ubuntui am a windows vista user23:31
stdinubuntu: please try to keep question on ONE line23:31
ubuntuand now want to use it23:31
ubuntuoh sorry :)23:31
stdinthe answer is simple, none is better. try both and see what's best for *you*23:31
ubuntuk23:32
linuxguymarshallubuntu: My friend says KDE is nice however GNOME is more functional for basic users however I have no problem with either23:32
linuxguymarshallubuntu:Check out Enlightenment23:33
linuxguymarshallThat seemed to fix my Adept problem guys23:33
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ubuntusir one morething the allications are same for both ubuntu and kubuntu like i can not fing gmail client in kubutu whereas in ubuntu it was already installed23:35
linuxguymarshallubuntu: In Konsole type sudo apt-get install gmail-notify23:36
stdinisn't kmail installed by default?23:36
linuxguymarshallstdin: I think he wants the notification23:37
ubuntuno23:37
ubuntubasically the instant messanger has gmail support in ubuntu whereas in kubuntu 8.04 there is no suport23:38
stdinahh, yes it does23:38
stdinkopete23:38
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linuxguymarshallIs there anyway to get the KDE 4 "Marble Desktop Globe" program in KDE 3.x?23:38
stdingmail is really "jabber"23:38
benpicco_linuxguymarshall: yes, just install it23:38
stdinubuntu: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=5755723:39
linuxguymarshallbenpicco:where would I go about getting it23:39
benpicco_linuxguymarshall: should be called marble so just type sudo apt-get install marble23:39
ubuntuthanks23:39
nosrednaekim!info marble23:40
linuxguymarshallK I got it23:41
benpicco_bot is still death23:41
ubuntuman i want to ask that when i read an article that if u install Ubuntu then u can have KDE effect by installing its packages so if i install ubuntu then i install its packages then it would become kubuntu or it will be both to me?23:43
arkaniadyes23:44
arkaniadwell, what Exactly do you want?23:44
arkaniadlike a sort of Dualboot???23:44
linuxguymarshallubuntu:Whenever you log in you can choose between KDE(Kubuntu) and GNOME(Ubuntu)23:44
arkaniadSo KDE and Gnome?23:44
ubuntuyes23:45
arkaniadsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop23:45
nosrednaekimubuntu: you can have both at the same time, just select which desktop you want on the login screen23:45
arkaniadeady as pi23:45
arkaniadasy23:45
ubuntuif i do this it would be dual boot system then23:45
arkaniadeasy!23:45
arkaniadnot really,23:45
ubuntuman i like kubuntu it is easy for me23:45
linuxguymarshallpi is hard. Pie is easy23:45
arkaniadit just installs both enviroments23:45
ubuntui am switching from windows vista23:45
arkaniadso you can switch back and forth with no rebbot23:45
nosrednaekimand of course you can use applications from both KDE and gnome within either23:45
arkaniaddownload, when you get it downloaded and condigured it will ask you if you want KDM or GDM23:46
ubuntuand the files or work i do would be same in both or do i have to install softwares in both?23:46
arkaniadKDM - K desktop manager23:46
ubuntuK is kool23:46
nosrednaekimlinuxguymarshall: eating Pie is easy, making it, not so ;)23:46
arkaniadwhat are you asking?23:46
arkaniad!offtopic23:46
arkaniadlol23:46
ubuntusee i have downloaded both23:46
arkaniadyou have?23:46
ubuntuyup23:46
ubuntukubuntu23:47
arkaniadso you apt-got kubuntu-desktop?23:47
ubuntuand ubuntu23:47
nosrednaekimkdm actually means K display manager FYI23:47
arkaniadlol23:47
arkaniadw/e23:47
linuxguymarshallDoes anybody have experience with *buntu on a Asus Eee PC?23:47
ubuntunow if i install ubuntu then how could i get both effects?23:47
arkaniad at the same time? no.23:47
nosrednaekimubuntu: if you have two CDs, thats not the same as apt-getting the extra packages23:47
arkaniadif you log out you can switch between total KDE and total GNOME23:47
arkaniadand you can switch defaults23:48
arkaniadtrust me, i have this setup23:48
arkaniad:D23:48
ubuntuhow?23:48
ubuntudid u installed both? i dont know a simple abcd of buntu23:48
arkaniadwell, did you apt-get the packages or do you have two seperate cdtoms23:48
ubuntui have two separate cds23:48
arkaniadyep, i have a dapper cd and i just downloaded kubuntu23:48
ubuntuubuntu 8.04 and kubuntu8.423:48
arkaniadcd's?23:49
ubuntuyup Beta CDs23:49
arkaniadcause there is a command to grap the packages from CD23:49
ubuntuhow?23:49
arkaniadno download23:49
arkaniadlet me see...23:49
ubuntuok wait23:49
nosrednaekimubuntu: which one do you currently have installed?23:49
arkaniadi found it but i ignored it23:49
arkaniadcause i didnt have both cds23:49
ubuntui do not anyone right now :D running it on demo23:49
arkaniadrunning Live, ymean?23:50
ubuntuwell running on Cd didn't installed it. i was a bit curious in installation23:50
nosrednaekimarkaniad: thats only for the laternate CD23:50
arkaniad?23:50
arkaniadlaternate?23:50
ubuntu??? ???23:51
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Jucatohe meant "alternate"23:51
arkaniadhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde23:51
nosrednaekimalternate23:51
arkaniadyou have to install ubuntu first23:51
kaNNib^Lok23:51
linuxguymarshallI need some help with 3D programs23:51
kaNNib^Lthen?23:51
nosrednaekimthank you Jucato :)23:51
arkaniadill find you the command to grab from CD23:51
kaNNib^Lok23:51
kaNNib^Lu mean that i do not have to install kubuntu23:52
arkaniadno,23:52
kaNNib^Larkaniad: it would be a one operating system or two?23:52
arkaniadone23:52
kaNNib^Lgr823:53
arkaniadyou would just install ubuntu, or kde23:53
arkaniadas in kubuntu23:53
kaNNib^L?23:53
linuxguymarshallWhenever I try to open a 3D game such as Sauerbraten, FlightGear, or W:ET I don't even get a bouncing icon. Its as if the program does not even try23:53
benpicco_linuxguymarshall: what's your 3d problem?23:53
arkaniadand grab the enviroment from the opoisite CD23:53
benpicco_linuxguymarshall: have you installed the driver?23:53
kaNNib^Lis it possible?23:53
benpicco_linuxguymarshall: try glxinfo | grep direct23:53
arkaniadyes, very much23:54
linuxguymarshallYes, I have installed my NVIDIA driver. I had no problem with these programs on XP23:54
arkaniadthese are old, but may work :)23:54
kaNNib^Lok i will install it hmm on sunday then will grab ur neck if u wont answer me23:54
kaNNib^L:P23:54
arkaniadhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2670923:54
kaNNib^Lthanks brother23:54
arkaniademail at arkaniad@gmail.com :)23:54
linuxguymarshallbenpicco:You mean run that in a terminal?23:54
arkaniadjust, yeah, install it then email me for what to do next23:55
kaNNib^Lok23:55
arkaniadif i can do it in dapper, you can do it in hardy23:55
kaNNib^Li have beta on ubuntu 8.423:55
arkaniadya23:55
arkaniadit will be fine23:55
arkaniadHey YAll i have a question now23:55
kaNNib^Lwell or do i have to wait for aa week to get alpha 8.4?23:55
arkaniadit isnt alpha,23:56
arkaniadand in 6 days you can get stable23:56
arkaniadjust apt-get update i think23:56
arkaniadTerminal FTW!23:56
kaNNib^Lwell what would u prefer me doc?23:57
arkaniadwhat do you mean?23:57
kaNNib^L i mean should i wait for a week toinstall alpha version23:57
kaNNib^Lor i can have beta without a single prob?23:57
arkaniadwhat do you mean alpha23:57
arkaniadalpha comes first23:57
arkaniadbeta is second23:57
kaNNib^Lnope23:57
arkaniadstable is third23:58
kaNNib^Lbeta is for testing and to know bugs23:58
jhutchins_wkalpha beta gamma delta epsilon...23:58
kaNNib^Lalpha is a stable version23:58
arkaniadi am talking about software23:58
kaNNib^Li am too23:58
arkaniadno23:58
arkaniadthat is just "stable23:58
jhutchins_wkkaNNib^L: Very few alphas are considered stable.23:58
kaNNib^Lahan then it means i should give a hell to alpha and install beta?23:59
arkaniadstages of development Alpha>beta>stable23:59
arkaniadeg. 7.10 is stable,23:59
arkaniad8.04 is beta23:59
kaNNib^Lyup23:59
arkaniadand alpha is past23:59
kaNNib^Lso after a week there would be a stable version?23:59
kaNNib^Li c23:59
arkaniadyep23:59

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