[00:03] bdmurray, I think that people come in here because they think we will give their bug more attention [00:03] bdmurray, and that we should forward them to the correct place [00:03] I oppose dealing with bugs on mailing lists for the same reason [00:05] I have mixed feelings about that kind of thing too, but with as many open bugs as we have there should be some way to escalate / get help. [00:06] problem is people come in wanting us to see if the bug has already been submitted, or to get an instant answer [00:07] What would you have them do? Searching in Launchpad can be a bit challenging. [00:08] true, but it does do that for them when they come to submit a bug [00:09] and generally they get ignored tbh [00:09] telling them to ask elsewhere seems preferable [00:12] I'd rather try to possibly build the team and teach people how to do the things we do. [00:13] sure === dashua`__ is now known as dashua === heno is now known as heno_away === marnanel_ is now known as marnanel === asac_ is now known as asac [06:37] bdmurray: (reading log) team? teach? people? what'd you have in mind? === asac_ is now known as asac [07:12] Hello all [07:52] good morning mates === Lutin_ is now known as Lutin === Tuv0k is now known as darthanubis === heno_away is now known as heno === jacobmp92 is now known as jacob [12:41] Hi [13:49] slomo_: hi. Can I ask why you set bug 199496 away from confirmed? [13:49] Launchpad bug 199496 in gtk-sharp2 "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199496 [13:49] from fix-released to confirmed, sorry. [13:51] slomo_: it wasn't fixed for all the apps, for example f-spot [13:51] ah james_w :-) [13:51] hi pedro_ [13:51] he uploaded a real fix a couple of days ago [13:52] on Monday? [13:52] gnome-sharp2 (2.20.0-2ubuntu2)? [13:52] it's still on the queue IIRC [13:52] let me check [13:52] ah, ok, that would explain it I think [13:52] james_w: no, today, and it's in unapproved since hardy is frozen still [13:53] james_w: that's the previous one [13:53] james_w: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= [13:54] gtk-sharp2 2.12.0-2ubuntu3 and gnome-sharp2 2.20.0-2ubuntu3 [13:54] ok, thanks all. [13:54] hello seb128! [13:55] hey pedro_ ;-) === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [15:25] Hi folks, I've asked a reporter for more information on a bug and it's at the point now where I can't be of any further help, besides assigning the correct package. It's either usplash or linux related I think. Anyone care to take a look? [15:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/218820 [15:25] Launchpad bug 218820 in ubuntu "8.04 fails to boot with kernel 2.6.24-15 or 2.6.24-16" [Undecided,New] [15:36] jarlath: thanks for your help [15:37] it looks like a kernel related issue to me [15:37] it does seem familiar, does anyone else know of a bug this is related to? [15:37] Thanks james_w, I'll mark it as such. [15:42] that's an interesting bug [15:42] could as well be grub [15:43] ogra: hey there [15:43] hey, thanks for te upgrade tests [15:43] oh, no problem [15:45] jarlath: dmesg and lspci information from 2.6.22 would be helpful too [15:45] bdmurray: thanks, I'll ask for it. [15:46] jarlath: he says none of the linux partitions are listed but I see it right there (sda6) [15:48] He seems to be saying that the contents of the /dev/disk/by-uuid folder dont contain the partitions yes. [15:49] But that was with the upgraded kernel. [15:50] The list of partitions he provided are from the 2.6.22 kernel. [15:51] The partition UUIDs won't change from kernel to kernel, those are written to the disk. [15:53] bdmurray: ah, okay. [15:53] What is probably happening is his hard drive isn't being detected at all with 2.6.24 so if in the shell after the alert he were to type 'ls /dev/disk/by-uuid' he might see nothing or just '/dev/sdb'. [15:54] I see. [15:54] I've asked him for the further info and I'm subscribed to the mail. [15:57] great thanks! [16:09] my pleasure :) [17:17] I'm having a problem where, after listening to a 5 or 6 songs on pandora.com in konqueror, the pandora UI becomes a white square and I need to refresh the page to get it to start again [17:18] this is really consistent [17:18] syke: interesting, have you tested on another system, or filed a bug? [17:20] not yet, wanted to see if anyone could reproduce it easily === Pici` is now known as Pici === _Czessi is now known as Czessi === secretlondon is now known as t4k|secretlondon [19:02] the pandora issue also happens in firefox [19:02] not just konq [19:02] music stops, entire player section on the web page goes white [19:11] syke: that's kind of neat site, it uses flash though right? [19:12] yes [19:12] so, this is some weird flash issue it appears [19:12] I'm on amd64 [19:12] god, I hope we can get to the bottom of this in time for release [19:12] and are you using flashplugin-nonfree or gnash? [19:13] nonfree [19:14] Don't amd64 and flash have a number of existing issues? [19:14] no idea [19:14] I would sincerely hope not [19:15] and, I didn't have this issue until recently [19:15] gutsy worked great [19:15] I think there are a number of issues with flashplugin-nonfree [19:15] asomething: hey there! how are things? [19:15] that would be unfortunate, as many sites use flash these days [19:16] bdmurray: great, working on getting a few fixes in before release [19:18] syke: just did some googling and it seems that the 64bit flash issue i remember was a fiesty problem [19:19] I use flash on amd64 a bit and don't have that many issues [19:19] asomething: correct -- gutsy worked great, tho [19:19] bdmurray: this pandora issue is the firts I've noticed [19:24] syke: 5 or 6 songs? [19:26] bdmurray: yes [19:27] actually, I think it might relate to opening another web page in another tab that also has flash [19:27] but [19:27] it has definitely also happened while the computer was sitting idle, palying music from pandora [19:31] I'm at song 5 w/o at an issue [19:43] syke: I think I was at song 6 and it stopped telling me to register === secretlondon is now known as t4k|secretlondon [19:47] so I think some further testing would be good [19:48] ok i have a troubling bug in installer on the -alternate cd image [19:48] it cannot load the kernel from the cd and install it on the target [19:50] I interpret that to mean that the CD boots fine the installation process starts and then fails. Is that correct? [19:50] correct [19:50] hi brian :) [19:51] i am trying a netinstall from the archives now, see if that works [19:51] Did you verify the md5sum etc....? [19:51] i downloaded yesterdays daily alternate [19:51] not yet. it tells me on console 4 that the hash is incorrect [19:51] thus it cannot load the deb [19:51] it is trying to install the -16 generic i think [19:52] i doubt it's a problem with iso integrity though - i am installing the .iso from a usb stick [20:04] bdmurray: "signing up" just requires an email and password [20:05] can you try pandora and open another flash web page in another tab? [20:07] syke: which environment; is pulseaudio active; is libflashsupport installed? [20:07] ok the network install works. i suppose there is something wrong with the kernel packages in the hardy-installer-alternate .iso [20:08] someone knowledgeable should check... or let me know how to debug :) [20:09] crimsun: kde on amd64 [20:10] crimsun: it wasn't installed, but how would that help? [20:10] pandora works well, has since gutsy for me [20:10] syke: it shouldn't be installed to troubleshoot further. [20:10] the purpose of the question is to eliminated pulseaudio from the list of culprits [20:10] eliminate* [20:11] danage: which iso? I did a fair bit of install testing with the alternate iso w/o any problems [20:11] danage: additionally you can see inforamtion about the testing we've done at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ [20:11] hardy-alternate-i386.iso [20:11] danage: the rc? [20:12] yes [20:12] obviously [20:12] i downloaded it yesterday [20:12] The RC was not released until today. [20:13] libpulse is installed, but pulseaudio is not [20:14] syke: if just one of libflashsupport or pulseaudio is not installed, it's irrelevant to dwell on my question :-) [20:15] ok [20:15] so [20:15] can someone try pandora in one tab and another flash app in another tab? [20:15] on amd64 [20:15] I get the same issue in konq and ff3 [20:16] it works fine on ff3.0b5 (current hardy) [20:16] pandora, homestarrunner in tabs [20:16] it was the one from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/, i have verified the md5sum [20:16] it will not install the kernel [20:16] if you want to debug, i will gladly support [20:17] hrm [20:17] syke: what's the bug # being described? I appear to have lost all backscroll. [20:17] I haven't filed one yet, I'm tring to get somethign reproducible === markus_ is now known as thekorn === t4k|secretlondon is now known as secretlondon === doko_ is now known as doko [23:56] Hi. Can I report a localization issue (german) here to anybody who might do something about it? [23:56] is it a transaltion? [23:56] translation? [23:57] Found something in the german RC installation... [23:57] Yes. [23:57] Rather the absence of one. :-) [23:57] I'm not sure how translations work, but they are done on launchpad translations. There is a german team that translates [23:58] do they have a channel, mail address, anything easy? [23:58] it's a trivial problem, actually. [23:58] I'll find it [23:59] there probably is an #ubuntu-de irc channel, but they may not help [23:59] thx, I was too dumb to find it on the website... :/ [23:59] I'm on that actually, but there wasn't any competent response... just some users.