[00:03] <secretlondon> bdmurray, I think that people come in here because they think we will give their bug more attention
[00:03] <secretlondon> bdmurray, and that we should forward them to the correct place
[00:03] <secretlondon> I oppose dealing with bugs on mailing lists for the same reason
[00:05] <bdmurray> I have mixed feelings about that kind of thing too, but with as many open bugs as we have there should be some way to escalate / get help.
[00:06] <secretlondon> problem is people come in wanting us to see if the bug has already been submitted, or to get an instant answer
[00:07] <bdmurray> What would you have them do? Searching in Launchpad can be a bit challenging.
[00:08] <secretlondon> true, but it does do that for them when they come to submit a bug
[00:09] <secretlondon> and generally they get ignored tbh
[00:09] <secretlondon> telling them to ask elsewhere seems preferable
[00:12] <bdmurray> I'd rather try to possibly build the team and teach people how to do the things we do.
[00:13] <secretlondon> sure
[06:37] <greg-g> bdmurray: (reading log) team? teach? people? what'd you have in mind?
[07:12] <Johnonlyinky> Hello all
[07:52] <doom__> good morning mates
[12:41] <Iulian> Hi
[13:49] <james_w> slomo_: hi. Can I ask why you set bug 199496 away from confirmed?
[13:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199496 in gtk-sharp2 "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199496
[13:49] <james_w> from fix-released to confirmed, sorry.
[13:51] <pedro_> slomo_: it wasn't fixed for all the apps, for example f-spot
[13:51] <pedro_> ah james_w :-)
[13:51] <james_w> hi pedro_
[13:51] <pedro_> he uploaded a real fix a couple of days ago
[13:52] <james_w> on Monday?
[13:52] <james_w> gnome-sharp2 (2.20.0-2ubuntu2)?
[13:52] <pedro_> it's still on the queue IIRC
[13:52] <pedro_> let me check
[13:52] <james_w> ah, ok, that would explain it I think
[13:52] <seb128> james_w: no, today, and it's in unapproved since hardy is frozen still
[13:53] <pedro_> james_w:  that's the previous one
[13:53] <pedro_> james_w: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[13:54] <pedro_> gtk-sharp2 2.12.0-2ubuntu3 and gnome-sharp2 2.20.0-2ubuntu3
[13:54] <james_w> ok, thanks all.
[13:54] <pedro_> hello seb128!
[13:55] <seb128> hey pedro_ ;-)
[15:25] <jarlath> Hi folks, I've asked a reporter for more information on a bug and it's at the point now where I can't be of any further help, besides assigning the correct package. It's either usplash or linux related I think. Anyone care to take a look?
[15:25] <jarlath> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/218820
[15:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218820 in ubuntu "8.04 fails to boot with kernel 2.6.24-15 or 2.6.24-16" [Undecided,New]
[15:36] <james_w> jarlath: thanks for your help
[15:37] <james_w> it looks like a kernel related issue to me
[15:37] <james_w> it does seem familiar, does anyone else know of a bug this is related to?
[15:37] <jarlath> Thanks james_w, I'll mark it as such.
[15:42] <bdmurray> that's an interesting bug
[15:42] <ogra> could as well be grub
[15:43] <bdmurray> ogra: hey there
[15:43] <ogra> hey, thanks for te upgrade tests
[15:43] <bdmurray> oh, no problem
[15:45] <bdmurray> jarlath: dmesg and lspci information from 2.6.22 would be helpful too
[15:45] <jarlath> bdmurray: thanks, I'll ask for it.
[15:46] <bdmurray> jarlath: he says none of the linux partitions are listed but I see it right there (sda6)
[15:48] <jarlath> He seems to be saying that the contents of the /dev/disk/by-uuid folder dont contain the partitions yes.
[15:49] <jarlath> But that was with the upgraded kernel.
[15:50] <jarlath> The list of partitions he provided are from the 2.6.22 kernel.
[15:51] <bdmurray> The partition UUIDs won't change from kernel to kernel, those are written to the disk.
[15:53] <jarlath> bdmurray: ah, okay.
[15:53] <bdmurray> What is probably happening is his hard drive isn't being detected at all with 2.6.24 so if in the shell after the alert he were to type 'ls /dev/disk/by-uuid' he might see nothing or just '/dev/sdb'.
[15:54] <jarlath> I see.
[15:54] <jarlath> I've asked him for the further info and I'm subscribed to the mail.
[15:57] <bdmurray> great thanks!
[16:09] <jarlath> my pleasure :)
[17:17] <syke> I'm having a problem where, after listening to a 5 or 6 songs on pandora.com in konqueror, the pandora UI becomes a white square and I need to refresh the page to get it to start again
[17:18] <syke> this is really consistent
[17:18] <mrooney> syke: interesting, have you tested on another system, or filed a bug?
[17:20] <syke> not yet, wanted to see if anyone could reproduce it easily
[19:02] <syke> the pandora issue also happens in firefox
[19:02] <syke> not just konq
[19:02] <syke> music stops, entire player section on the web page goes white
[19:11] <bdmurray> syke: that's kind of neat site, it uses flash though right?
[19:12] <syke> yes
[19:12] <syke> so, this is some weird flash issue it appears
[19:12] <syke> I'm on amd64
[19:12] <syke> god, I hope we can get to the bottom of this in time for release
[19:12] <bdmurray> and are you using flashplugin-nonfree or gnash?
[19:13] <syke> nonfree
[19:14] <asomething> ﻿Don't amd64 and flash have a number of existing issues?
[19:14] <syke> no idea
[19:14] <syke> I would sincerely hope not
[19:15] <syke> and, I didn't have this issue until recently
[19:15] <syke> gutsy worked great
[19:15] <bdmurray> I think there are a number of issues with flashplugin-nonfree
[19:15] <bdmurray> asomething: hey there! how are things?
[19:15] <syke> that would be unfortunate, as many sites use flash these days
[19:16] <asomething> ﻿bdmurray: great, working on getting a few fixes in before release
[19:18] <asomething> ﻿syke: just did some googling and it seems that the 64bit flash issue i remember was a fiesty problem
[19:19] <bdmurray> I use flash on amd64 a bit and don't have that many issues
[19:19] <syke> asomething: correct -- gutsy worked great, tho
[19:19] <syke> bdmurray: this pandora issue is the firts I've noticed
[19:24] <bdmurray> syke: 5 or 6 songs?
[19:26] <syke> bdmurray: yes
[19:27] <syke> actually, I think it might relate to opening another web page in another tab that also has flash
[19:27] <syke> but
[19:27] <syke> it has definitely also happened while the computer was sitting idle, palying music from pandora
[19:31] <bdmurray> I'm at song 5 w/o at an issue
[19:43] <bdmurray> syke: I think I was at song 6 and it stopped telling me to register
[19:47] <bdmurray> so I think some further testing would be good
[19:48] <danage> ok i have a troubling bug in installer on the -alternate cd image
[19:48] <danage> it cannot load the kernel from the cd and install it on the target
[19:50] <bdmurray> I interpret that to mean that the CD boots fine the installation process starts and then fails.  Is that correct?
[19:50] <danage> correct
[19:50] <danage> hi brian :)
[19:51] <danage> i am trying a netinstall from the archives now, see if that works
[19:51] <bdmurray> Did you verify the md5sum etc....?
[19:51] <danage> i downloaded yesterdays daily alternate
[19:51] <danage> not yet. it tells me on console 4 that the hash is incorrect
[19:51] <danage> thus it cannot load the deb
[19:51] <danage> it is trying to install the -16 generic i think
[19:52] <danage> i doubt it's a problem with iso integrity though - i am installing the .iso from a usb stick
[20:04] <syke> bdmurray: "signing up" just requires an email and password
[20:05] <syke> can you try pandora and open another flash web page in another tab?
[20:07] <crimsun> syke: which environment; is pulseaudio active; is libflashsupport installed?
[20:07] <danage> ok the network install works. i suppose there is something wrong with the kernel packages in the hardy-installer-alternate .iso
[20:08] <danage> someone knowledgeable should check... or let me know how to debug :)
[20:09] <syke> crimsun: kde on amd64
[20:10] <syke> crimsun: it wasn't installed, but how would that help?
[20:10] <syke> pandora works well, has since gutsy for me
[20:10] <crimsun> syke: it shouldn't be installed to troubleshoot further.
[20:10] <crimsun> the purpose of the question is to eliminated pulseaudio from the list of culprits
[20:10] <crimsun> eliminate*
[20:11] <bdmurray> danage: which iso?  I did a fair bit of install testing with the alternate iso w/o any problems
[20:11] <bdmurray> danage: additionally you can see inforamtion about the testing we've done at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
[20:11] <danage> hardy-alternate-i386.iso
[20:11] <Pici> danage: the rc?
[20:12] <danage> yes
[20:12] <danage> obviously
[20:12] <danage> i downloaded it yesterday
[20:12] <Pici> The RC was not released until today.
[20:13] <syke> libpulse is installed, but pulseaudio is not
[20:14] <crimsun> syke: if just one of libflashsupport or pulseaudio is not installed, it's irrelevant to dwell on my question :-)
[20:15] <syke> ok
[20:15] <syke> so
[20:15] <syke> can someone try pandora in one tab and another flash app in another tab?
[20:15] <syke> on amd64
[20:15] <syke> I get the same issue in konq and ff3
[20:16] <crimsun> it works fine on ff3.0b5 (current hardy)
[20:16] <crimsun> pandora, homestarrunner in tabs
[20:16] <danage> it was the one from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/, i have verified the md5sum
[20:16] <danage> it will not install the kernel
[20:16] <danage> if you want to debug, i will gladly support
[20:17] <syke> hrm
[20:17] <crimsun> syke: what's the bug # being described?  I appear to have lost all backscroll.
[20:17] <syke> I haven't filed one yet, I'm tring to get somethign reproducible
[23:56] <twl> Hi. Can I report a localization issue (german) here to anybody who might do something about it?
[23:56] <secretlondon> is it a transaltion?
[23:56] <secretlondon> translation?
[23:57] <twl> Found something in the german RC installation...
[23:57] <twl> Yes.
[23:57] <twl> Rather the absence of one. :-)
[23:57] <secretlondon> I'm not sure how translations work, but they are done on launchpad translations. There is a german team that translates
[23:58] <twl> do they have a channel, mail address, anything easy?
[23:58] <twl> it's a trivial problem, actually.
[23:58] <secretlondon> I'll find it
[23:59] <secretlondon> there probably is an #ubuntu-de irc channel, but they may not help
[23:59] <twl> thx, I was too dumb to find it on the website... :/
[23:59] <twl> I'm on that actually, but there wasn't any competent response... just some users.