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metalgod_hi ember00:38
emberhey metal00:39
metalgod_how goes ?00:39
embergood, e tu ? :p00:41
metalgod_fine :) having fun with some brasero segfaults and then going to some bar00:42
emberhmm why don't you go to the bar now and deal later with segfaults ? :o00:44
metalgod_nah that way i have to use valgrind and then gdb which is bad00:45
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emberhaha00:46
embergood luck00:46
emberoff to bed00:46
ember*00:46
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dholbachgood morning07:41
crevettehello gents07:45
crevetteand ladyes07:45
crevetteladies07:45
crevettesalut seb12808:18
seb128lut crevette08:18
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zasfI'm trying to build gnome-applets from svn08:46
zasfI'm using pbuilder but I get some errors I don't understand08:46
zasfthis is the end of pbuilder build -> http://pastebin.com/m2460e88108:46
zasfit seems that INSTALL is missing08:47
zasfhum.. I nearly got it09:11
zasfI changed a Makefile.am and that's causing problems, but I don't understand what's wrong with it09:12
seb128what are you trying to do? that's an ubuntu chan, you likely want to go on gimpnet to ask about gnome svn build questions09:14
seb128mvo: do you want a bug about the easy code installation asking if you want to install other softwares?09:16
zasfseb128: I thought it was a problem with debian/rules on packaging that's why I asked on #ubuntu-motu and dholdbach redirected me here09:16
seb128the packaging is most likely correct, we use it for years now09:17
seb128you might just want to run autogen.sh, copy the debian directory and run rebuild09:17
seb128debuild09:17
seb128if that's do to a quick svn package to try09:17
seb128otherwise you can make dist the svn and package that correctly as an update09:18
seb128do you really need a packaged version?09:18
seb128otherwise just run autogen.sh and make and run the binary in the build dir09:18
zasfseb128: thanks, I added DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT := $(CURDIR)/$(DEB_SRCDIR)/autogen.sh to debian/rules09:19
zasfand it seems to work09:19
zasfI need a package to keep my system clean and do some testing09:20
seb128mvo: could you look at bug #218768?09:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 218768 in gnome-utils "package gnome-utils 2.20.0.1-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21876809:23
seb128mvo: the apt.log has some udev volumeid error, not sure if you already know about the issue09:24
seb128or that might not be the issue09:24
mvoseb128: the terminal log would be best09:30
mvoaha09:30
mvoI look at it09:31
mvoseb128: the crash itself is the scrollkeeper crash, I update and reassign09:36
seb128ah, again09:36
seb128I didn't spot it while looking at the html thing, I should have changed it to text ;-)09:36
seb128yet another duplicate09:36
mvoduplicate of #157370 ?09:39
seb128mvo: could be, I think most of those bugs are one crasher09:41
seb128mvo: when did compiz start changing workspaces when using the mouse middle button on the background?10:04
mvoseb128: middle button hold and then move to a direction you mean?10:05
seb128not, just normal up,down scrolling10:05
seb128when you do when reading a page in firefox ;-)10:06
seb128I noticed yesterday because my mouse pointer went out of the application by mistake and it switched to an another workspace10:06
seb128while I was just scrolling to read something10:06
crevetteseb128, ha you didn't noticed10:06
crevette:)10:06
seb128I think it can be pretty confusing for users10:06
seb128s/when you do/what you do10:07
* seb128 slaps crevette10:07
seb128crevette: in a better mood today? ;-)10:07
crevettenot that bad10:07
crevetteI need some rest10:07
seb128crevette: lucky you, that's almost the weekend10:08
seb128good morning dholbach10:08
crevetteyou but I'm not sure I will take some rest10:08
seb128you should!10:08
dholbachseb128: I was here before... just pressed alt-f4 in the wrong window10:08
dholbachseb128: but yeah... good morning France! :)10:08
crevetteweek end is the only time I have to do some hacking10:08
seb128dholbach: I didn't say you were not there, we just didn't speak yet ;-)10:09
seb128crevette: ah, you are a hacker now ;-)10:09
crevetteseb128, not really, but I'm using hack to define a whole thing, like opening bug, doing patch, ....10:10
seb128kwwii: there is some thread on ubuntu-devel-discuss complain that you ignore bug #21174010:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211740 in ubuntu-gdm-themes "Hardy: Ubuntu login screen art has brightnes increased" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21174010:10
seb128mvo: should bug #174524 be reassigned to the german translations?10:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 174524 in gnome-app-install "spelling mistake: german title in multimedia installer ("Mulitmedia")" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17452410:13
seb128_re10:17
seb128_dsl disconnected again10:17
seb128_did somebody wrote something for me?10:17
seb128_in which case you should write it again ;-)10:18
seb128_I did get anything after <seb128> mvo: should bug #174524 be reassigned to the german translations?10:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 174524 in gnome-app-install "spelling mistake: german title in multimedia installer ("Mulitmedia")" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17452410:18
mvoseb128_: yeah, that sounds like it10:21
slomo_pitti: please accept gtk-sharp2 and gnome-sharp2 :) they finally fix the crash on exit bug for every application10:37
pittiyay!10:37
pittislomo_: however, that has to wait until after the RC10:37
* pitti hugs slomo_10:37
slomo_oh10:37
slomo_ok :)10:37
slomo_np10:37
* slomo_ hugs pitti 10:38
seb128__anybody wanting to check if swfdec-gnome 2.22.2 from debian builds and work correctly on hardy so maybe we can do the update?10:40
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kwwiiseb128__: well, I have an updated version but the bright version was made to make you know who happy11:15
seb128__ah ok11:15
seb128__just wanted to let you know that some users are complaining about the lack of reply on the bug11:16
seb128__so maybe write something there to explain if that will be changed or not and why11:16
kwwiican anyone verfiy bug #219020 ?12:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21902012:04
kwwiiI cannot reproduce it or understand why it is like this12:05
kwwiiseb128: can you verify bug #219020?13:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21902013:03
kwwiithe index.theme file does not use Clearlooks and already has the cursor stuff set so I cannot understand why this is happening13:04
seb128kwwii: I think we would have noticed if that was the case13:04
seb128dunno either13:04
kwwiiok, I'll leave it be for now13:10
seb128you can add a comment asking what sort of installation he did, etc and if he has other issues because that works for everybody else13:14
* Hobbsee waves13:19
seb128'night Hobbsee13:24
Hobbseeseb128: oh, is it sleep time?13:25
seb128Hobbsee: I though that's why you waved ;-)13:25
Hobbseeah.  no13:25
Hobbseebut i'm considering sleep13:25
zasfI still need some help with a Makefile.am, it doesn't compile saying "no rule to make target", see http://pastebin.com/m69fffbfa14:36
zasfwhile Makefile.am seems to be ok -> http://pastebin.com/m16668f0e14:36
zasfI basically only changed a stupid file name (http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-applets/trunk/invest-applet/data/art/Makefile.am?view=markup)14:37
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kwwiierm, pitti, seb128: we should be on version 0.18 of the human theme...I just noticed that we are still on 0.1615:45
seb128hardy is frozen for rc still15:46
kwwiinoticed because of bug #21902015:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21902015:46
seb128ah, the update fixes that? it'll be accepted after rc15:47
kwwiiseb128: cool :-)15:47
kwwiithe bug came after I made the packages fixing it, funny enough15:48
seb128what is the issue exactly?15:48
seb128will be fixed when the update is accepted anyway15:52
kwwiihrm, looking back at the 0.16 I can't see the problem either...freaky15:53
seb128oh, btw redhat has a nautilus change to fallback to a default background image when the current one is not available, that would allow to drop the one which was still there for upgrade compatibility reasons15:53
kwwiiinteresting idea15:55
kwwiitedg: did you see bug #21306416:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213064 in inkscape "Inkscape does not maximize properly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21306416:51
tedgNo, but I'm guessing that's because we don't use GTK for the tool selector.16:52
tedgProbably happens on 768 px high screens16:53
tedgWhich is why the theme would effect whether it happens or not.16:53
tedgAre you seeing this on your laptop?16:56
kwwiino, that was what made me wonder16:57
kwwiiI turned on and off all sorts of compiz stuff to test it out too16:57
kwwiiI would have been much louder if this would have effected me :-/16:58
kwwiiaffected, I guess16:59
tedgHeh, I imagine this has to be window management.17:02
tedgBut, in reality, Inkscape needs to be better at resizing.17:02
tedgOr atleast have a way to disable tools that you don't care about.17:02
kwwiiI have often wished to be able to add or remove tools from the toolbar17:04
tedgI have the whole thing planned out in my head, I just need to get around to implementing it...17:05
kwwiihehe, the story of my life :D17:22
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Johninkyhello all18:30
seb128hi Johninky18:37
Johninkyhello seb12818:37
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bryyceseb128: cworth looked at the cairo we have in ubuntu currently and says that version causes certain printers to crash badly; he strongly recommends shipping 1.6.4 and no earlier 1.6.x releases since they've got bad known issues.  .4 is stable though, and is what he's shipping in Fedora20:18
seb128bryyce: is cworth on #cairo right now?20:19
bryyceyup20:19
ted1Ah, is that the Xerox thing he was talking about?20:22
ted1It's only a problem if you use fonts and text. :)20:22
seb128bryyce: looks like he looked at the version and not the package though ;-)20:28
bryyceyeah he was just looking over my shoulder, and didn't notice the ubuntu1 bit.  I showed him the patch so he saw it's the same20:29
seb128yes20:30
seb128the bug has been noticed by people at the canonical office20:30
seb128and I'm the one who sent the bug upstream, and I hang on #cairo to talk about it20:30
Johninkyok people we have a large problem here, I have lock my self in the car and drop my key on the outside of the car. Can  anyone help?20:30
seb128so I backported the fix when they make it available ;-)20:30
Johninkyyou know that would be pretty stupid of someone to do that right, but for real can you come by Longs on main and let me out.20:33
Johninkylong johns on main20:33
seb128bryyce: ok, seems that the current cairo we have is alright ;-)20:49
Johninky I have a slight problem here i have seem to have lock my self in my car, I know I layed the keys on top and then got in. after I got in the car went click and the doors lock, anyone, anyone please help23:12
AmaranthJohninky: You know that isn't possible, right?23:25
e-uoaphysheh what a lame joke23:37
mvohey Amaranth23:44
Amaranthhey23:44
Amaranthyou're up late :P23:44
mvodoing releases is not good for my sleep pattern23:57

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