[00:38] <metalgod_> hi ember
[00:39] <ember> hey metal
[00:39] <metalgod_> how goes ?
[00:41] <ember> good, e tu ? :p
[00:42] <metalgod_> fine :) having fun with some brasero segfaults and then going to some bar
[00:44] <ember> hmm why don't you go to the bar now and deal later with segfaults ? :o
[00:45] <metalgod_> nah that way i have to use valgrind and then gdb which is bad
[00:46] <ember> haha
[00:46] <ember> good luck
[00:46] <ember> off to bed
[00:46] <ember> *
[07:41] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <crevette> hello gents
[07:45] <crevette> and ladyes
[07:45] <crevette> ladies
[08:18] <crevette> salut seb128
[08:18] <seb128> lut crevette
[08:46] <zasf> I'm trying to build gnome-applets from svn
[08:46] <zasf> I'm using pbuilder but I get some errors I don't understand
[08:46] <zasf> this is the end of pbuilder build -> http://pastebin.com/m2460e881
[08:47] <zasf> it seems that INSTALL is missing
[09:11] <zasf> hum.. I nearly got it
[09:12] <zasf> I changed a Makefile.am and that's causing problems, but I don't understand what's wrong with it
[09:14] <seb128> what are you trying to do? that's an ubuntu chan, you likely want to go on gimpnet to ask about gnome svn build questions
[09:16] <seb128> mvo: do you want a bug about the easy code installation asking if you want to install other softwares?
[09:16] <zasf> seb128: I thought it was a problem with debian/rules on packaging that's why I asked on #ubuntu-motu and dholdbach redirected me here
[09:17] <seb128> the packaging is most likely correct, we use it for years now
[09:17] <seb128> you might just want to run autogen.sh, copy the debian directory and run rebuild
[09:17] <seb128> debuild
[09:17] <seb128> if that's do to a quick svn package to try
[09:18] <seb128> otherwise you can make dist the svn and package that correctly as an update
[09:18] <seb128> do you really need a packaged version?
[09:18] <seb128> otherwise just run autogen.sh and make and run the binary in the build dir
[09:19] <zasf> seb128: thanks, I added DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT := $(CURDIR)/$(DEB_SRCDIR)/autogen.sh to debian/rules
[09:19] <zasf> and it seems to work
[09:20] <zasf> I need a package to keep my system clean and do some testing
[09:23] <seb128> mvo: could you look at bug #218768?
[09:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218768 in gnome-utils "package gnome-utils 2.20.0.1-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218768
[09:24] <seb128> mvo: the apt.log has some udev volumeid error, not sure if you already know about the issue
[09:24] <seb128> or that might not be the issue
[09:30] <mvo> seb128: the terminal log would be best
[09:30] <mvo> aha
[09:31] <mvo> I look at it
[09:36] <mvo> seb128: the crash itself is the scrollkeeper crash, I update and reassign
[09:36] <seb128> ah, again
[09:36] <seb128> I didn't spot it while looking at the html thing, I should have changed it to text ;-)
[09:36] <seb128> yet another duplicate
[09:39] <mvo> duplicate of #157370 ?
[09:41] <seb128> mvo: could be, I think most of those bugs are one crasher
[10:04] <seb128> mvo: when did compiz start changing workspaces when using the mouse middle button on the background?
[10:05] <mvo> seb128: middle button hold and then move to a direction you mean?
[10:05] <seb128> not, just normal up,down scrolling
[10:06] <seb128> when you do when reading a page in firefox ;-)
[10:06] <seb128> I noticed yesterday because my mouse pointer went out of the application by mistake and it switched to an another workspace
[10:06] <seb128> while I was just scrolling to read something
[10:06] <crevette> seb128, ha you didn't noticed
[10:06] <crevette> :)
[10:06] <seb128> I think it can be pretty confusing for users
[10:07] <seb128> s/when you do/what you do
[10:07]  * seb128 slaps crevette
[10:07] <seb128> crevette: in a better mood today? ;-)
[10:07] <crevette> not that bad
[10:07] <crevette> I need some rest
[10:08] <seb128> crevette: lucky you, that's almost the weekend
[10:08] <seb128> good morning dholbach
[10:08] <crevette> you but I'm not sure I will take some rest
[10:08] <seb128> you should!
[10:08] <dholbach> seb128: I was here before... just pressed alt-f4 in the wrong window
[10:08] <dholbach> seb128: but yeah... good morning France! :)
[10:08] <crevette> week end is the only time I have to do some hacking
[10:09] <seb128> dholbach: I didn't say you were not there, we just didn't speak yet ;-)
[10:09] <seb128> crevette: ah, you are a hacker now ;-)
[10:10] <crevette> seb128, not really, but I'm using hack to define a whole thing, like opening bug, doing patch, ....
[10:10] <seb128> kwwii: there is some thread on ubuntu-devel-discuss complain that you ignore bug #211740
[10:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 211740 in ubuntu-gdm-themes "Hardy: Ubuntu login screen art has brightnes increased" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211740
[10:13] <seb128> mvo: should bug #174524 be reassigned to the german translations?
[10:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174524 in gnome-app-install "spelling mistake: german title in multimedia installer ("Mulitmedia")" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174524
[10:17] <seb128_> re
[10:17] <seb128_> dsl disconnected again
[10:17] <seb128_> did somebody wrote something for me?
[10:18] <seb128_> in which case you should write it again ;-)
[10:18] <seb128_> I did get anything after <seb128> mvo: should bug #174524 be reassigned to the german translations?
[10:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174524 in gnome-app-install "spelling mistake: german title in multimedia installer ("Mulitmedia")" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174524
[10:21] <mvo> seb128_: yeah, that sounds like it
[10:37] <slomo_> pitti: please accept gtk-sharp2 and gnome-sharp2 :) they finally fix the crash on exit bug for every application
[10:37] <pitti> yay!
[10:37] <pitti> slomo_: however, that has to wait until after the RC
[10:37]  * pitti hugs slomo_
[10:37] <slomo_> oh
[10:37] <slomo_> ok :)
[10:37] <slomo_> np
[10:38]  * slomo_ hugs pitti 
[10:40] <seb128__> anybody wanting to check if swfdec-gnome 2.22.2 from debian builds and work correctly on hardy so maybe we can do the update?
[11:15] <kwwii> seb128__: well, I have an updated version but the bright version was made to make you know who happy
[11:15] <seb128__> ah ok
[11:16] <seb128__> just wanted to let you know that some users are complaining about the lack of reply on the bug
[11:16] <seb128__> so maybe write something there to explain if that will be changed or not and why
[12:04] <kwwii> can anyone verfiy bug #219020 ?
[12:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219020
[12:05] <kwwii> I cannot reproduce it or understand why it is like this
[13:03] <kwwii> seb128: can you verify bug #219020?
[13:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219020
[13:04] <kwwii> the index.theme file does not use Clearlooks and already has the cursor stuff set so I cannot understand why this is happening
[13:04] <seb128> kwwii: I think we would have noticed if that was the case
[13:04] <seb128> dunno either
[13:10] <kwwii> ok, I'll leave it be for now
[13:14] <seb128> you can add a comment asking what sort of installation he did, etc and if he has other issues because that works for everybody else
[13:19]  * Hobbsee waves
[13:24] <seb128> 'night Hobbsee
[13:25] <Hobbsee> seb128: oh, is it sleep time?
[13:25] <seb128> Hobbsee: I though that's why you waved ;-)
[13:25] <Hobbsee> ah.  no
[13:25] <Hobbsee> but i'm considering sleep
[14:36] <zasf> I still need some help with a Makefile.am, it doesn't compile saying "no rule to make target", see http://pastebin.com/m69fffbfa
[14:36] <zasf> while Makefile.am seems to be ok -> http://pastebin.com/m16668f0e
[14:37] <zasf> I basically only changed a stupid file name (http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-applets/trunk/invest-applet/data/art/Makefile.am?view=markup)
[15:45] <kwwii> erm, pitti, seb128: we should be on version 0.18 of the human theme...I just noticed that we are still on 0.16
[15:46] <seb128> hardy is frozen for rc still
[15:46] <kwwii> noticed because of bug #219020
[15:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219020 in human-theme "Defaults to Clearlooks Metacity theme for new users instead of Human" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219020
[15:47] <seb128> ah, the update fixes that? it'll be accepted after rc
[15:47] <kwwii> seb128: cool :-)
[15:48] <kwwii> the bug came after I made the packages fixing it, funny enough
[15:48] <seb128> what is the issue exactly?
[15:52] <seb128> will be fixed when the update is accepted anyway
[15:53] <kwwii> hrm, looking back at the 0.16 I can't see the problem either...freaky
[15:53] <seb128> oh, btw redhat has a nautilus change to fallback to a default background image when the current one is not available, that would allow to drop the one which was still there for upgrade compatibility reasons
[15:55] <kwwii> interesting idea
[16:51] <kwwii> tedg: did you see bug #213064
[16:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 213064 in inkscape "Inkscape does not maximize properly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213064
[16:52] <tedg> No, but I'm guessing that's because we don't use GTK for the tool selector.
[16:53] <tedg> Probably happens on 768 px high screens
[16:53] <tedg> Which is why the theme would effect whether it happens or not.
[16:56] <tedg> Are you seeing this on your laptop?
[16:57] <kwwii> no, that was what made me wonder
[16:57] <kwwii> I turned on and off all sorts of compiz stuff to test it out too
[16:58] <kwwii> I would have been much louder if this would have effected me :-/
[16:59] <kwwii> affected, I guess
[17:02] <tedg> Heh, I imagine this has to be window management.
[17:02] <tedg> But, in reality, Inkscape needs to be better at resizing.
[17:02] <tedg> Or atleast have a way to disable tools that you don't care about.
[17:04] <kwwii> I have often wished to be able to add or remove tools from the toolbar
[17:05] <tedg> I have the whole thing planned out in my head, I just need to get around to implementing it...
[17:22] <kwwii> hehe, the story of my life :D
[18:30] <Johninky> hello all
[18:37] <seb128> hi Johninky
[18:37] <Johninky> hello seb128
[20:18] <bryyce> seb128: cworth looked at the cairo we have in ubuntu currently and says that version causes certain printers to crash badly; he strongly recommends shipping 1.6.4 and no earlier 1.6.x releases since they've got bad known issues.  .4 is stable though, and is what he's shipping in Fedora
[20:19] <seb128> bryyce: is cworth on #cairo right now?
[20:19] <bryyce> yup
[20:22] <ted1> Ah, is that the Xerox thing he was talking about?
[20:22] <ted1> It's only a problem if you use fonts and text. :)
[20:28] <seb128> bryyce: looks like he looked at the version and not the package though ;-)
[20:29] <bryyce> yeah he was just looking over my shoulder, and didn't notice the ubuntu1 bit.  I showed him the patch so he saw it's the same
[20:30] <seb128> yes
[20:30] <seb128> the bug has been noticed by people at the canonical office
[20:30] <seb128> and I'm the one who sent the bug upstream, and I hang on #cairo to talk about it
[20:30] <Johninky> ok people we have a large problem here, I have lock my self in the car and drop my key on the outside of the car. Can  anyone help?
[20:30] <seb128> so I backported the fix when they make it available ;-)
[20:33] <Johninky> you know that would be pretty stupid of someone to do that right, but for real can you come by Longs on main and let me out.
[20:33] <Johninky> long johns on main
[20:49] <seb128> bryyce: ok, seems that the current cairo we have is alright ;-)
[23:12] <Johninky>  I have a slight problem here i have seem to have lock my self in my car, I know I layed the keys on top and then got in. after I got in the car went click and the doors lock, anyone, anyone please help
[23:25] <Amaranth> Johninky: You know that isn't possible, right?
[23:37] <e-uoaphys> heh what a lame joke
[23:44] <mvo> hey Amaranth
[23:44] <Amaranth> hey
[23:44] <Amaranth> you're up late :P
[23:57] <mvo> doing releases is not good for my sleep pattern