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| DB42 | to whoever fixed the usb quirk for the "microsoft sound system 80" thanks, it works perfectly now | 01:26 |
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| Johninky | hello all | 08:03 |
| Johninky | Can I ask a quick question please, might take a long answer | 08:03 |
| Johninky | How can I take .inf file and create a driver for ubuntu 8.04 | 08:04 |
| Johninky | or would it work, I have tried ndisgtk and ndiswrapper | 08:05 |
| mjg59 | Johninky: You can't | 08:24 |
| Johninky | I can what | 08:24 |
| Johninky | cant^^ | 08:24 |
| Johninky | oh never mind I was a little slow on that one | 08:25 |
| Johninky | sorry | 08:25 |
| kraut | moin | 09:02 |
| DB42 | i moved from 7.10 to 8.04 in my laptop and now i have no wifi and no ethernet | 16:43 |
| DB42 | can i downgrade to ipw3945 ? | 16:44 |
| DB42 | ipl is giving me lots of errors and isn't working | 16:44 |
| DB42 | is there a ipw3945 .deb i can d/l for 8.04 ? | 16:46 |
| DB42 | is there an IPW3945 PACKAGE for UBUNTU 8.04 ?? | 16:53 |
| rtg | DB42: install linux-backports-modules in order to get iwlwifi 1.2.25 | 16:57 |
| DB42 | ok i've submitted bug report with my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219268 | 17:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219268 in ubuntu "iwl3945 doesn't work with my wifi card (ipw3945 did)" [Undecided,New] | 17:00 |
| DB42 | rtg: hmm | 17:01 |
| rtg | DB42: support in 1.2.25 for the 3945 is a little better. | 17:02 |
| DB42 | rtg: which one is for the -generic ? | 17:02 |
| DB42 | rtg: is there a way to revert to ipw / | 17:02 |
| DB42 | for the time being ? | 17:03 |
| DB42 | (without moving to 2.6.22) | 17:03 |
| rtg | DB42: ipw is gone. | 17:03 |
| DB42 | no .deb package ? :| | 17:03 |
| DB42 | i tried compiling it, no go | 17:03 |
| DB42 | rtg: which backports do i need to install for 2.6.24-16-generic ? | 17:03 |
| rtg | DB42: try 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-hardy' | 17:04 |
| DB42 | installing now | 17:05 |
| DB42 | rebooting laptop, let's hope for the best | 17:05 |
| DB42 | i need to do anything after instaling and before rebooting ? | 17:06 |
| rtg | DB42: nope | 17:06 |
| DB42 | btw this is a backport from what ? 8.10 ? | 17:08 |
| DB42 | :( same error | 17:08 |
| DB42 | problem still there | 17:08 |
| DB42 | it's 1.2.25 | 17:09 |
| DB42 | rtg: any other idea ? | 17:10 |
| rtg | DB42: looking... | 17:10 |
| DB42 | btw, using wicd as network manager if it's of any use | 17:12 |
| rtg | DB42: what kind of AP connection are you trying to make? WPA Enterprise? Add that to the LP report as well as any noise from /var/log/syslog. Attach it to the LP report, not pastebin. I'll make sure Intel sees the bug report. | 17:14 |
| DB42 | WPA yes | 17:14 |
| DB42 | hmm.. i'll try an unsecure one, and see if it works | 17:15 |
| rtg | DB42: personal or enterprise? | 17:15 |
| DB42 | personal | 17:15 |
| mdz | BenC: is it possible to do sysrq-like actions programmatically, e.g. through sysfs or proc? | 17:18 |
| DB42 | rtg: another problem | 17:18 |
| DB42 | my ethernet card isn't working in 2.6.24-16-generic as well ... | 17:18 |
| mdz | there's /proc/sysrq-trigger... | 17:18 |
| DB42 | hwlist -C networ tells me it's disabled | 17:18 |
| BenC | mdz: probably, but if the hang is "system", then I'm not sure that would help | 17:19 |
| mdz | BenC: yeah | 17:19 |
| rtg | DB42: the rt8139 is well supported. Is this an HP laptop? | 17:20 |
| mdz | is it possible to serially debug our kernel without modifications? | 17:20 |
| BenC | I'm getting a base install so I can run the erase command from command line | 17:20 |
| DB42 | rtg: check the bug report, lenovo 3000 n100 | 17:20 |
| DB42 | it's an 8139too driver | 17:20 |
| DB42 | i connect a ethernet cable and i don't get in dmesg "link up or down" but the module for 8139too is loaded | 17:21 |
| rtg | DB42: i see it now. Is the cable plugged in (since you've been using wireless) ? | 17:21 |
| DB42 | yeah | 17:21 |
| rtg | DB42: never mind | 17:22 |
| DB42 | it's plugged in, but doesn't apear in ifconfig | 17:22 |
| DB42 | and nothing in dmesg | 17:22 |
| BenC | cjwatson, soren: does blockdev-wipe run on the physical drive, or on the encrypted lvm? | 17:22 |
| mdz | BenC: the former | 17:22 |
| rtg | DB42: 'ifconfig -a' ? | 17:23 |
| BenC | So the fact that this happens for encrypted is just that blockdev-wipe gets run when it normally doesn't | 17:23 |
| mdz | BenC: well, it runs on the device underlying the encrypted one, AIUI | 17:23 |
| DB42 | rtG: i see eth0 and eth1 | 17:23 |
| mdz | not the physical drive but an unencrypted block device | 17:23 |
| BenC | mdz: so the wipe isn't being encrypted, right? | 17:23 |
| rtg | DB42: eth0 is likely the realtek controller. | 17:23 |
| DB42 | yeap | 17:23 |
| BenC | ok | 17:23 |
| DB42 | check my dmesg on the bug report | 17:23 |
| mdz | BenC: I think not, but I don't have it in front of me | 17:24 |
| DB42 | it has the RealTek anme there | 17:24 |
| mdz | alt+f2 during the erase and ps | 17:24 |
| rtg | DB42: what happens if you 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' | 17:24 |
| DB42 | rtg: i need to go to a place with ethernet connection and check :) | 17:24 |
| DB42 | sec | 17:24 |
| mdz | BenC: lib/crypto-base.sh:crypto_wipe_device in partman-crypto | 17:25 |
| mdz | BenC: seems to say it is in fact writing through dm-crypt when it does the wipe | 17:26 |
| DB42 | rtg: thanks, eth works now | 17:26 |
| rtg | DB42: so, pluggin it in to a switch fixed it? | 17:27 |
| DB42 | no | 17:27 |
| DB42 | ifconfig eth0 up did | 17:27 |
| rtg | DB42: hmm. Are you running NetworkManager? | 17:27 |
| DB42 | no, as i said i'm using wicd | 17:27 |
| rtg | DB42: wicd only works on wireless, right? | 17:27 |
| DB42 | NM didn't work well with my wireless card in 7.10 | 17:27 |
| DB42 | nop, wired as well | 17:28 |
| rtg | DB42: you ought to try NM again. maybe it'll work better with the i3945. | 17:28 |
| DB42 | rtg: i'm trying to conect unencrtyped now and see if it's ok | 17:29 |
| DB42 | how so ? the problem is in the microcode.. | 17:29 |
| DB42 | and when i boot to 2.4.22 for wifi now (on 8.04) i still need the wicd | 17:29 |
| DB42 | and i can't have them both | 17:29 |
| rtg | DB42: indeed, but it could be a function of the kind of packets being transmitted. who knows. | 17:29 |
| BenC | mdz: so does d-i call blockdev-wipe for this progress? | 17:29 |
| mdz | BenC: yes | 17:30 |
| rtg | DB42: you could boot with the lice-cd and try it. that way you don't have to re-install. | 17:30 |
| rtg | s/lice-cd/live-cd/ | 17:30 |
| DB42 | rtg: i rather d/l it when the final is out :| | 17:30 |
| mdz | /bin/blockdev-wipe -s 65536 $dev > $fifo & | 17:31 |
| DB42 | also don't have media to burn it on | 17:31 |
| mdz | [...] while read x <&9; do | 17:31 |
| mdz | db_progress STEP 1 | 17:31 |
| rtg | DB42: the RC was announced an hour ago. | 17:31 |
| DB42 | btw, i reported a bug in my sound card and did a system update 2 days after, and the bug disappered :) | 17:32 |
| DB42 | that was pretty cool | 17:32 |
| rtg | DB42: probably a function of updated ALSA in LUM. | 17:32 |
| BenC | mdz: I can't get blockdev-wipe to reproduce from command line | 17:33 |
| DB42 | the model i had needed to be added to usbquirks.h or so | 17:33 |
| DB42 | (it worked ok in 7.10, but not in 8.04) | 17:33 |
| mdz | BenC: soren was trying that as well | 17:34 |
| BenC | The fact that blockdev-wipe output is useless after 24 lines doesn't help either | 17:35 |
| BenC | wonder if I can easily wrap it in some shell script to put the asterisks on a single line instead of separate | 17:35 |
| CYREX | I see that the release candidate includes the 2.6.24-16.30 of Ubuntu but will the final version include Kernel 2.6.25 since it came out yesterday | 17:36 |
| mdz | BenC: | grep -n --line-buffered '' | 17:36 |
| DB42 | CYREX: how so ? | 17:36 |
| rtg | CYREX: no | 17:36 |
| DB42 | CYREX: 8.04 is freezed already | 17:36 |
| CYREX | is frozen mean no kernel changing | 17:37 |
| DB42 | mean no change at all besides bug fixes | 17:37 |
| DB42 | mean no change at all besides bug fixes | 17:37 |
| CYREX | oki thank you | 17:37 |
| BenC | mdz: not particularly supported by busybox grep | 17:38 |
| BenC | :) | 17:38 |
| mdz | oh, you're in d-i | 17:38 |
| BenC | figure that's the best way to repro it | 17:38 |
| mdz | BenC: |while read x; do date; done ? | 17:38 |
| mdz | or similar | 17:39 |
| DB42 | rtg: i'm trying a manual connection, how do i list SSIDs ? | 17:40 |
| rtg | DB42: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning | 17:43 |
| DB42 | i get "Failed to read scan data: Resource temporarily unavilable" | 17:44 |
| rtg | DB42: probably because the firmware has crashed. | 17:45 |
| DB42 | tried removing / reloading the iwl, didn't help .. | 17:46 |
| DB42 | i'll try restarting with no wifi, seing if it helps | 17:47 |
| DB42 | how do i blacklist auto-loading of iwl3945 @ boot ? | 17:47 |
| DB42 | (in kernel boot lie) | 17:47 |
| BenC | mdz: | while read x; do echo -n "$x"; done | 17:51 |
| rtg | DB42: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | 17:51 |
| BenC | that worked | 17:51 |
| DB42 | rtg: yeah i wanted it in boot though (since i already reboot) | 17:52 |
| DB42 | but nm, i did a check | 17:52 |
| DB42 | it happens as soon as i type in CLI "iwlist eth1 scan" without even using a network manager | 17:52 |
| DB42 | i updated my bug report to reflect it | 17:52 |
| DB42 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219268 | 17:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219268 in ubuntu "iwl3945 doesn't work with my wifi card (ipw3945 did)" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
| DB42 | welp for now i guess i'll go back to 2.4.24 | 17:54 |
| DB42 | i mean 2.6.22 ... :) | 17:54 |
| DB42 | rtg: no .deb package no backport no nothing for ipw ? :| | 17:54 |
| rtg | DB42: nope. the regulatory daemon is gone. | 17:55 |
| DB42 | what is "LBM" and "LUM" ? | 17:57 |
| rtg | linux-backports-modules, linux-ubuntu-modules | 17:57 |
| DB42 | k | 17:58 |
| DB42 | now for the big test, checking if hibernation is fixed in 8.04 for my laptop :) | 17:58 |
| DB42 | yippy | 18:06 |
| DB42 | cool, the cpu fan seems to work after hibernation | 18:06 |
| DB42 | it didn't in 7.10 | 18:06 |
| DB42 | so rtg need anything else for my report ? | 18:08 |
| DB42 | will the intel people respond on the bug report itself ? | 18:08 |
| rtg | DB42: they might, but I think they are losing interest in 3945 in favor or more recent adapters (4965) | 18:09 |
| DB42 | ouch :( | 18:10 |
| DB42 | well if this isn't a specific case of mine, there are still lots of people with 3945 out there (the lenovo 3000 n100 is popular i belive) | 18:11 |
| DB42 | i also think it might be tramuatic for some users that load ubuntu and won't have wifi | 18:11 |
| rtg | DB42: it doesn't fail for everyone, but I have seen the microcode issue before. | 18:11 |
| DB42 | is there any documentation of the chipset that can tell me what is that specific error ? | 18:12 |
| rtg | DB42: not that I'm aware of | 18:12 |
| BenC | mdz: I'm starting to wonder if this is a blockdev-wipe issue...from one run to the next, it goes at different speeds | 18:13 |
| BenC | like now I'm at 47%, and it would have been done by now on the run before this | 18:13 |
| mdz | BenC: what are you using for the source? urandom? | 18:14 |
| mdz | BenC: there's some debugging available if you recompile it, but it's pretty dead simple | 18:16 |
| BenC | mdz: the stock d-i one, so it's /dev/zero | 18:17 |
| BenC | mdz: does d-i use default /dev/zero, or does it -f=/dev/urandom? | 18:17 |
| mdz | BenC: urandom, I believe | 18:17 |
| BenC | where is the d-i log kept nowadays? | 18:17 |
| mdz | BenC: oh, nm | 18:18 |
| mdz | it's using /dev/zero, but writing through a random cryptoloop | 18:18 |
| BenC | ok | 18:18 |
| mdz | so blockdev-wipe writes zeros, but what gets written to the device should be random | 18:18 |
| BenC | ok | 18:18 |
| mdz | maybe the intervening cryptoloop is what's getting hung up | 18:18 |
| mdz | are you setting that up in your test environment? | 18:19 |
| BenC | well, what gets written isn't really random, just encrypted 0's | 18:19 |
| * BenC chuckles at encrypted 0's | 18:20 | |
| rtg | BenC: maybe it would go faster with unencrypted zeroes :) | 18:21 |
| BenC | -f=/dev/unencrypted-zeroes | 18:22 |
| BenC | ENODEV | 18:22 |
| BenC | mdz: I'm using the devices setup by d-i | 18:27 |
| BenC | switching to console | 18:27 |
| BenC | ...after partman runs | 18:28 |
| mdz | BenC: well, it's encrypting with a random key from /dev/urandom, so it should be pretty random | 18:30 |
| mdz | I wonder why it does it this way rather than just writing random data to the device | 18:30 |
| BenC | Ok, I just got a completely different hang | 18:30 |
| mdz | straight from /dev/urandom to whatever without going through device-mapper | 18:30 |
| BenC | during dhcp...keyboard started it up again... | 18:30 |
| BenC | wonder if that's a red herring, or for real hang like we are seeing otherwise | 18:31 |
| BenC | whoope, nope, same hang repeated | 18:32 |
| BenC | mdz: Ok, this isn't blockdev-wipe related then | 18:32 |
| BenC | I got network dhcp screen to hang twice in a row | 18:33 |
| BenC | stayed at 100% until I hit shift key | 18:33 |
| * BenC starts to blame kvm | 18:33 | |
| BenC | and note that even though nothing in d-i uses the mouse, the kernel and kvm both pay attention to it, so that would explain the kickstart from it as well | 18:34 |
| mdz | BenC: others (including jdstrand) have reported hangs in other parts of the installer | 18:34 |
| BenC | 3 times dhcp hung... | 18:34 |
| mdz | even before partitioning | 18:34 |
| BenC | shift key reliably starts it back up | 18:35 |
| mdz | there is, as far as I know, only one unconfirmed report of this happening outside of KVM | 18:35 |
| BenC | right, so I'm thinking these are two separate bugs | 18:35 |
| BenC | One in kvm (dunno if it's userspace or kernel), and one on that specific bit of hardware | 18:36 |
| BenC | I'm going to try this -server install on some hardware to try and reproduce | 18:36 |
| mdz | BenC: dendrobates said that mathiaz experienced some mysterious unreproducible hangs on real hardware when doing server enablement, but I have no information | 18:37 |
| BenC | Bringing dendrobates here, hopefully hash this out a bit more | 18:37 |
| * BenC summons the frog | 18:37 | |
| mdz | I pasted him a log excerpt | 18:38 |
| dendrobates- | BenC: here | 18:41 |
| mdz | dendrobates-: I can always tell when you're here because my xchat-gnome window resizes to accomodate your nick | 18:41 |
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| mdz | kirkland: are you able to reproduce this easily? | 18:45 |
| kirkland | mdz: I have not reproduced this at all | 18:45 |
| kirkland | mdz: I've only tried on real hardware | 18:45 |
| mdz | ah, I see | 18:45 |
| BenC | dendrobates: I reproduced the hang...but, I was able to reproduce it during dhcp as well as during crypt erase | 18:45 |
| kirkland | mdz: and with a 300G drive, the device zero'ing takes FOREVER | 18:46 |
| mdz | Ben and I are starting to think that the primary bug here is kvm-specific | 18:46 |
| mdz | and there may be a separate issue or two which are hardware-specific | 18:46 |
| mdz | kirkland: you can manually adjust the size of the device to mitigate that; I did it yesterday | 18:46 |
| BenC | dendrobates: so this isn't specific to blockdev-wipe usage...which leads to believe even more than what we are seeing in kvm is not likely the same bug as what was reported on real hw | 18:46 |
| kirkland | BenC: have you given any thought to the empty entropy suggestion one commenter gave? | 18:47 |
| dendrobates | even in kvm it is not limited to blockdev-wipe. | 18:47 |
| BenC | kirkland: blockdev-wipe uses /dev/zero, and a key, so there's no entropy involved | 18:47 |
| BenC | kirkland: plus, it's not just during that operation | 18:48 |
| kirkland | BenC: right, my question is probably more d-i specific... anywhere else in the installer that might rely on /dev/random? | 18:48 |
| mdz | kirkland: not on a recurring basis | 18:48 |
| dendrobates | both jdstrand and I are seeing it appear at various places during the install, but it always occurs during blockdev-wipe. | 18:48 |
| kirkland | particularly something that might have been introduced in hardy, since this is looking like a regression since gutsy | 18:48 |
| mdz | I think the encryption aspect is a red herring | 18:49 |
| dendrobates | mdz: I do as well. | 18:49 |
| mdz | the installer just spends a lot of time (and makes a lot of system calls) there | 18:49 |
| dendrobates | All I know for sure is that it is easy to reproduce with lvm+crypt. | 18:50 |
| BenC | I'm going to try and reproduce under kvm on gutsy | 18:53 |
| BenC | that should give us a reliable answer | 18:53 |
| dendrobates | we have already tried to reproduce it installing Gutsy on a Hardy kvm, with no success. That seems to point to someting in Hardy. | 18:54 |
| BenC | dendrobates: Ok, I'll try the other way (install hardy on gutsy) | 18:55 |
| BenC | dendrobates: but yeah, that's an interesting point too | 18:55 |
| dendrobates | I am going to try a pre-beta hardy image. | 18:56 |
| dendrobates | I have a daily build from dec-5 | 18:57 |
| BenC | All I have are 32-bit 7.10 CD's | 18:58 |
| BenC | Where are the gutsy live cd's? | 18:58 |
| mdz | BenC: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ | 18:59 |
| dendrobates | BenC: can't you reproduce it in 32bit? | 18:59 |
| BenC | thanks | 18:59 |
| BenC | dendrobates: I'm sticking with what soren told me...haven't tried 32-bit yet :) | 18:59 |
| BenC | well, I did on my laptop, but it wouldn't repro there | 19:00 |
| dendrobates | BenC: OK, it does not seem to matter though. | 19:00 |
| BenC | That's an interesting regression | 19:04 |
| BenC | hardy nv driver only does 800x600 on my plasma screen, while gutsy starts up at 1280x1024 | 19:04 |
| BenC | Ok, I happen to have 32-bit handy, so I'll try that | 19:07 |
| dendrobates | I was not able to reproduce it with an older hardy iso, but, the hardy daily from Dec does not do the erase on lvm+crypt, which is the most reliable way I have found to reproduce it. | 19:12 |
| dendrobates | mdz: do we have an archive of the daily builds somewhere? | 19:13 |
| dendrobates | or the alpha releases? | 19:14 |
| mdz | dendrobates: slangasek would know | 19:15 |
| mdz | I'm sure we do, but I don't know where | 19:15 |
| mdz | (of milestones at least) | 19:15 |
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| BenC | hmm | 19:54 |
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| BenC | This might not be possible to test | 19:54 |
| BenC | Gutsy kvm doesn't support the gfx boot it seems | 19:55 |
| JanC | BenC: there is a sed line to "fix" the gfxboot issue | 19:56 |
| JanC | (if that's useful) | 19:56 |
| BenC | Sure | 19:56 |
| dendrobates | B$ sed -e 's/GFXBOOT bootlogo/#FXBOOT bootlogo/g' < ubuntu-7.10-server-amd64.iso > ubuntu-7.10-server-amd64-nogfxboot.iso | 19:57 |
| BenC | dendrobates: thanks | 19:57 |
| dendrobates | a little brutish, but it works. | 19:57 |
| BenC | can I hexedit it instead? :) | 19:57 |
| JanC | it's documented on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmVirtManagerEtc#head-80f0e334a1de270252f62ac69183da2ed58edf3f | 19:58 |
| JanC | (the sed line) | 19:58 |
| JanC | BTW: does anybody know when vmware server & which version will be available for hardy? (question from someone I know who uses it professionally) | 19:58 |
| BenC | yep, hexedit is much faster, it solved it, thanks | 20:02 |
| arcticpenguin380 | what processor is ubuntus kernel optimized for? | 20:07 |
| JanC | arcticpenguin380: depends on which kernel you mean ;) | 20:08 |
| arcticpenguin380 | hardys. | 20:08 |
| JanC | hardy has several kernels included | 20:09 |
| JanC | but -generic kernel is optimized for 686 IIRC | 20:09 |
| arcticpenguin380 | are all hardys kernels 2.6.24? | 20:09 |
| JanC | yes | 20:09 |
| arcticpenguin380 | oh and is ext4dev compiled? | 20:11 |
| JanC | I don't think so | 20:14 |
| JanC | well, /proc/filesystems doesn't list it | 20:15 |
| BenC | soren: is there supposed to be a way to make kvm emulate 64-bit when running under a 32-bit kernel? | 20:43 |
| BenC | otherwise, I gotta download a 32-bit -server CD :/ | 20:44 |
| soren | BenC: No can do. | 21:13 |
| BenC | Ok, I'm off, and will return in a few hours to continue tracking this down (and over the weekend) | 21:35 |
| DB42 | rtg: here ? | 21:47 |
| DB42 | rtg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4612681 fixes the problem | 21:48 |
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| sn9 | is anybody actively working on Bug #88746? if so, i'm willing to provide needed info | 22:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 88746 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88746 | 22:26 |
| sn9 | having usb2 broken in feisty, gutsy, _and_ hardy is a bit much | 22:27 |
| sn9 | for perspective, i've had the very same issue on a different machine with a different chipset, a different usb device, and a different distro | 22:31 |
| sn9 | the common element appears to be multifunction usb devices | 22:31 |
| crimsun | do any of the workarounds ... work for you? | 22:32 |
| sn9 | modprobe -r ehci-hcd | 22:33 |
| crimsun | so in the absence of a fix that works for everyone, you at least have a viable workaround | 22:33 |
| sn9 | the rest are a bit hard to keep track of | 22:34 |
| sn9 | and that workaround is NOT viable, just like the bug comments say | 22:34 |
| sn9 | after all, apparently that workaround _does_ work for _everybody_ | 22:35 |
| crimsun | that's precisely what I mean. | 22:36 |
| crimsun | /you/ have a viable workaround. | 22:36 |
| sn9 | huh? | 22:36 |
| crimsun | I asked if any of the workarounds work for /you/, and you responded with "modprobe -r ehci-hcd" | 22:36 |
| crimsun | (obviously it's not preferable) | 22:37 |
| sn9 | but you said "in the absence of a fix that works for everyone" -- either there's no such absence or there's no such fix | 22:37 |
| sn9 | there's a reason ehci-hcd isn't just blacklisted by default | 22:39 |
| crimsun | as we're both well aware, and I have no interest in arguing | 22:39 |
| sn9 | so far, i have not encountered any machine with an amd cpu where ehci-hcd works with a multifunction usb device | 22:40 |
| sn9 | strangely, it seems ok on p4's | 22:40 |
| sn9 | what i'm interested in is contributing to whatever efforts to fix this issue once and for all | 22:45 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: any fix on the horizon for snd_hda_intel suspend/hibernate issue (needs to be removed after resume, otherwise no sound)? | 22:45 |
| crimsun | tjaalton: I don't head up sound anymore (and haven't for a year). What's the issue? | 22:47 |
| crimsun | tjaalton: meaning, I need to know what HDA codec/model is affected | 22:47 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: oh sorry.. let's see.. | 22:47 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: 8086:293e I guess | 22:48 |
| crimsun | need the line afterward. | 22:48 |
| crimsun | (`lspci -nv|grep -A1 0403') | 22:48 |
| tjaalton | Subsystem: 1043:829f | 22:49 |
| crimsun | I can guess that's a Realtek, but can you confirm by looking in /proc/asound/card0/codec#0? | 22:50 |
| tjaalton | yeah.. Realtek ALC883 | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | shame on intel.. | 22:51 |
| crimsun | tjaalton: ok, please pastebin that codec spew. | 22:52 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7440/ | 22:53 |
| crimsun | thanks, looking | 22:53 |
| tjaalton | does it need some hal/suspend quirk? | 22:53 |
| sn9 | hmm, i just tried a suspend, and no more sound... | 22:54 |
| sn9 | ALC885 | 22:54 |
| crimsun | interesting, there's no unmute for autoconfig | 22:58 |
| crimsun | tjaalton: I presume you're not passing a model= in /etc/modprobe.d/* ? | 22:58 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: nope | 22:59 |
| sn9 | i know i'm not -- it gets config from the bios | 22:59 |
| crimsun | tjaalton: ok, I'll ping you. Looking closer. | 23:04 |
| tjaalton | crimsun: excellent, thanks | 23:05 |
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