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chai_sangeenhello everyone..03:11
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virtualroadsidemy icons disappeared on the last update, any thoughts?05:53
inkynoobI installed Ubuntu Mobile on my eeePC and it starts when I log in, but there are no icons on the desktop. Should the ubuntu-mobile package pull in a certain set of apps? 06:20
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inkynoobThere aren't any icons on my desktop, does anyone have any suggestions for what I should try? 07:16
dholbachgood morning07:41
dholbachwho takes care of bluetooth stuff?07:55
StevenKdholbach: In terms of the bluez-utils sponsorship?08:01
StevenKdholbach: If that's what you're asking, it's in the unapproved queue08:01
dholbachoh? the --enable-pand and --enable-hidd upload?08:01
StevenKRight08:01
dholbachah good then08:02
dholbachcheers08:02
inkynoobGood morning :-) 08:05
inkynoobIt looks like this is why I don't have icons on my desktop : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hildon-desktop/+bug/219041 -- I didn't file the bug, but I'm Michael Moore that replied to it08:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219041 in hildon-desktop "No icons on UME desktop" [Undecided,New] 08:07
henofrom today's testing by davmor2: http://www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/20080418menlow.png10:25
davmor2morning people I got issues with this mornings image in that it looks like this in xephyr link above10:26
henoamitk, StevenK ^10:26
amitklool_: ^10:30
davmor2sorry about that hard freeze10:33
davmor2someone ask something?10:33
Hobbseedavmor2: no10:42
lool_davmor2: You can check what was uploaded recently in the ppa; the page doesn't load for me though13:01
agoliveiralool_: You mean you can't open or PPA page? Is working fine from here.13:02
agoliveiras/or/our13:02
lool_I can't load https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive nor without edge13:03
lool_But then my connection was cut multiple time this morning locally; perhaps my ISP has issues too13:03
* lool_ returns to building his menlow and packing13:04
agoliveiralool_: Probably. Here is working nicely.13:04
lool_agoliveira: Could you check what was uploaded recently?13:04
lool_I don't know of an easy way to be notified of ppa uploads; all I get are build failures13:04
lool_I'd actually like to know when people upload stuff13:04
cprovlool_: the page works fine here.13:05
lool_It works from a hosted server too13:05
lool_Looks like a rooting issue somewhere13:06
lool_telnet launchpad.net 443 gets stuck waiting for a connection13:06
agoliveiralool_:   cairo - 1.6.0-0ubuntu2~804um1,           libdrm - 2.3.0-4ubuntu4~804um3               linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 - 2.6.24-16.23+804ume1               moblin-applets - 0.55               pango1.0 - 1.20.1-1ubuntu1~804um1               ubuntu-meta - 1.101~804um1               ume-config-common - 0.10+upstream-0ubuntu1~804um2               xserver-xorg-video-psb - 0.2.8-0ubuntu1~804um1     13:06
lool_cprov: while you're around, do you happen to know whether the pagination issue with ppa pages is pending resolution?   O:-)13:07
lool_It doesn't respond to pings from here either13:08
lool_Uhoh nor does archive.ubuntu.com13:08
cprovlool_: the edge PPA overview is now paginated by default.13:08
lool_That's not going to be fun13:08
lool_cprov: Excellent!13:08
lool_cprov: You mean with a mean to access the other pages, right?13:09
cprovlool_: yes, that's much better.13:09
lool_Cause at some point, the list of packages was cut, but there was no link to the next page13:09
* lool_ jumps on IS to check whether it's "only me"13:10
cprovlool_: yes, you had to click the 'Search' button to get the pagination rendered for PPAs with more than 50 packages published.13:10
lool_cprov: And that's fixed?  Cool, that's what I was wondering about13:11
cprovlool_: yup, you would know if your ISP allows you to get into edge.l.n ;)13:12
lool_Seems it's my ISP; traceroute ends at 213.228.29.12613:17
virtualroadsideyeah, launchpad has been really slow for me the last few weeks13:27
virtualroadsideinkynoob: i filed that bug. good thought to run that from the command line13:29
davmor2lool_: sorry I was away from the keyboard14:02
virtualroadsidehey, you wouldn't happen to know how to tell gdb to display what module is being executed, given a memory location of the function?14:02
davmor2no14:03
virtualroadsidehmm. 14:04
lool_virtualroadside: "x" + address should give you the name of the function if the debugger knows it14:09
lool_(gdb) x 0x08067e3e14:09
lool_0x8067e3e <main+14>:    0x3156ff3114:09
lool_(gdb) bt14:09
lool_#0  0x08067e3e in main ()14:09
virtualroadsidelool_: tnx14:12
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inkynoobHello, did anyone else have all their icons disapear with the updates today?14:42
agoliveirainkynoob: It went fine here.14:49
inkynoobagoliveira, which package provides the icons? Is it hildon-desktop?14:55
agoliveirainkynoob: I don't know, sorry.14:55
inkynoobagoliveira, you're from Brazil?14:58
agoliveirainkynoob: Yes, I am.14:58
inkynoobwhat part? I lived in Minas for a year, and in Sao Paulo for 214:59
agoliveirainkynoob: Joinville, SC.15:03
inkynoobCool, I always wanted to visit SC, I've got a good friend in Lages15:04
henoagoliveira: seems inkynoob may have reproduced this http://www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/20080418menlow.png 15:40
agoliveiraheno: Weird... let me see something...15:41
davmor2heno: I confirmed bug 21904115:41
henodavmor2: thanks15:47
agoliveiraheno: I can't confirm this. If you saw the same effect, just file a bug please.15:47
davmor2I've added the link to the image on the bug report15:47
davmor2agoliveira: check out bug 219041 there has been some work done on it already IIRC15:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219041 in ubuntu-mobile "No icons on UME desktop" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21904115:48
agoliveiradavmor2: Oh, I've seem it. Thanks.15:50
dokoStevenK, lool: mobile-basic-flash contains some flash blobs without source code. how is other flash code handled in mobile packages?16:06
StevenKlool: ^]16:06
StevenKs/]//16:06
looldoko: These are actually the files which are being opened in the GUI to edit these16:14
looldoko: So this is the preferred form of modification and use and these files were made under the same license16:14
dokolool: ohh, really? point taken16:15
looldoko: Nobody likes the files, and they are said to have some bugs; it would be best to move to something else, but we also use the package for pure html UIs16:15
dokolool: did somebody look at the source code? I can't review this :-/16:16
looldoko: Consider them like .pngs16:17
dokook16:17
loolSorry about this situation; it's not easy to solve the problem of providing flash files in source form; it's really the way they are edited in the editor and all and just like data files we have to provide the license outside of them16:18
Adri2000lool: re: tasks, so build log says "intltool-update: POTFILES.in not found.16:26
loolAdri2000: Does it cd to po?16:27
Adri2000in the source package, po/ contains a POTFILES.in16:27
Adri2000I think that's the problem, because it cd to /build/buildd/tasks-0.13/debian/build/standard/po16:27
loolYeah16:27
loolProbably due to DEB_BUILDDIR hacks in deed16:28
loolAdri2000: Will likely affect dates as well16:30
Adri2000dates?16:31
loolAdri2000: dates/dates-hildon just like tasks16:31
Adri2000ah16:32
loolAdri2000: I'm trying to think of the proper fix, but I can hint you on the work around16:34
loolAdri2000: The short term workaround would be to call intltool-update manually in a similar way16:36
Adri2000the workaround I'm trying right now is to manually copy the POTFILES.in where it expects it to be16:36
loolAdri2000: Would be an option16:49
lool(Sorry was having a phone call)16:49
loolAdri2000: Otherwise, I think flipping if grep -q intltool $(DEB_BUILDDIR)/po/Makefile* with elif [ -e $(DEB_BUILDDIR)/po/Makefile ]; then \ might work16:50
loolAdri2000: I'll have to leave you now; I have other things to complete tonight and not much time left; I'm happy to sponsor a patch over the WE if it's still possible in terms of freezes and the like16:51
loolAdri2000: Thanks for your work :)16:51
Adri2000lool: ok, will try to get a patch working, thanks for your help16:52
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dokoStevenK: moblin-applets is a bit messy ...17:09
ToddBrandtdoko: what about moblin-applets is messy?17:10
dokoToddBrandt: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/moblin-applets/+bug/219087/comments/217:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219087 in moblin-applets "MIR for moblin-applets" [Undecided,Incomplete] 17:12
ToddBrandtdoko: good comments, I'll take care of them17:13
ToddBrandtlauncher is no longer needed anyway17:13
dokoToddBrandt: thanks!17:14
ToddBrandtwe're still waiting for Inuka to update the ppa repo, so I may not be able to push the changes til next week though, however they will be in 0.56 when it comes out17:14
StevenKdoko: You want libmokoui2's debian/control to be universe/<blah> for vala?17:26
StevenKdoko: Or just add X[BS]-PythonVersion, and you're fine?17:26
dokoStevenK: no, that will be done by archive admins17:26
StevenKdoko: Mmmmm. I didn't think it was necessary, which is why I skipped it17:27
dokoit *is not* necessary17:27
StevenKdoko: Okay, if it isn't, why do I need to add it? I've never been clear on the fields.17:29
dokoStevenK: you don't need it. just add the X[BS]-PythonVersion. that's the only thing to be done17:30
StevenKdoko: Sorry, I know about universe/, what I'm asking about is X[BS]-PythonVersion.17:30
StevenKdoko: The necessary bit was about X[BS]-PythonVersion too17:30
dokoStevenK: yes, we need it to know when we have to rebuild the binary.17:32
StevenKdoko: Okay, I'll sort out X[BS]-PythonVersion.17:33
StevenKdoko: Quite happy for vala to be universe.17:34
ToddBrandttonyespy: in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/acton/+bug/188168 are they talking about gaston or hardy?18:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188168 in acton "Wifi - cannot establish connection after cancelling dialog" [High,In progress] 18:58
pmcgowanToddBrandt, all bugs are against hardy19:01
ToddBrandtok, that's what I thought19:01
ToddBrandtI'm having trouble getting the gnome-keyring manager to work on the latest hardy image19:01
ToddBrandtso I can't reproduce alot of these bugs against the "Moblin Network Profile Manager"19:02
pmcgowanToddBrandt, do you have the latest UME image for CB?19:02
ToddBrandtpmcgowan: I have the latest for samsung actually, are these all on CB?19:03
ToddBrandtthat would change things a bit19:03
pmcgowanToddBrandt, well, they are all on menlow of course19:04
pmcgowanboth CB and target MIDs19:04
pmcgowanQ1 testing should be ok though19:04
pmcgowanat least for these issues19:04
ToddBrandtpmcgowan: hmm, I'm seeing behavioral differences between the menlow and mccaslin target builds with MIC19:05
pmcgowanToddBrandt, I can believe that19:06
tonyespyToddBrandt: sorry was away from my desk.19:10
tonyespyToddBrandt: yes, gnome-keyring-manager is messed up...19:10
tonyespyToddBrandt: we got around this by shipping a default.keyring that's cleartext19:10
tonyespyToddBrandt: our customer didn't like being prompted for a keyring password, so by including a default.keyring w/no password, problem solved19:11
tonyespyToddBrandt: there is a bug i gnome-keyring where the ask process crashes on Hardy.  I never quite nailed the problem, and then decided to skip it once I figured out the password-less keyring change19:12
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ToddBrandttonyespy: ok, thanks20:04
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