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bbyeverhi00:23
bbyeverhow do i submit a patch to debian?00:23
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bbyeverhow do i submit a patch to debian?00:48
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CaesarHi, I've just provided a fix for #218964, could someone possibly sponsor it for me?01:01
emgentBug #21896401:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 218964 in xfdesktop4 "Installing xfdesktop4 changes the GDM theme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21896401:04
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emgentno0ticoglione: we know01:04
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emgentCaesar: try to subscribe cody sommerville01:05
bbyeverif im reporting a bug with a patch, should i attach the patch to the email?01:37
RAOFbbyever: Reporting to Debian?  Yes.  Reporting to Launchpad, probably.01:39
bbyeverRAOF: reporting to debian01:40
bbyeverRAOF: what should i put on the user tag?01:40
RAOFI don't know offhand.  I always refer to the BTS howto page01:41
RAOFhttp://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting01:42
bbyeverit just says username....01:44
RAOFIt's not _necessary_ to have usertags.  There is an Ubuntu wikipage I think you're thinking of, though...01:46
bbyeveryeah i saw the wiki page01:47
RAOFWe're talking about this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/ReportingToDebian?highlight=%28debian%29 right?01:47
RAOFhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Debian/Usertagging page is linked from it, and contains examples if you want to do it manually.01:48
bbyeveryes01:48
bbyeveri was just wondering what to put as User:01:49
RAOFIt says what to put as user there :)01:49
RAOFUser: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com01:49
bbyeveroh, i thought it was just an example...01:49
RAOFNope; that's the correct user (it says so at the top of the page) :)01:49
bbyeverdamn...01:50
bbyeveruhhh01:50
bbyeveri've sent the email with a diferent user....01:50
bbyeveruhhh01:51
bbyevermm01:51
bbyeverwhat should i do now?01:51
RAOFEh; it doesn't matter too much.  You can probably do something like "bts user ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com . usertag 123456 + origin-ubuntu hardy" to add the right tags.01:51
RAOF(123456 would be the debian bug #)01:52
bbyeverok01:52
bbyeverdo i sent that as a mail or in the terminal?01:53
RAOFThat would be using the 'bts' script.  You could also send it as a mail.  (I'm just reading this from the above linked wiki page :))01:55
bbyeverhaha ok thanks :)01:56
bbyeverRAOF: i couldnt change it... but if it not so important i guess it not so bad. at least now i know...02:08
bddebianHeya gang02:42
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ScottKheya bddebian.04:24
ScottKLooks pretty quiet.04:24
emgenti go to sleep04:24
emgentnight all04:24
bddebianHeya ScottK, aye04:25
bddebianGnight emgent04:25
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awmcclainI need to change my distribution from "unstable" to what? Gutsy? Hardy? in order to upload to PPA?04:58
TheMusoawmcclain: Depends on what distribution you want it to be built and installable against.05:00
awmcclainTheMuso: Is there a wiki page somewhere talking about the polishing steps for ubuntu?05:01
awmcclainAlso, there aren't any ubuntu-specific conventions on packages compared to debian, correct?05:01
TheMusoawmcclain: Polishing? Have you checked out the MOTU pages?05:02
TheMusoawmcclain: Not as far as I know of.05:02
TheMusoawmcclain: Some packages need Ubuntu-specific changes, however.05:02
awmcclainTheMuso: Right. I'm re-packaging a lot of perl and perl-based modules, so I haven't run into that.05:03
TheMusoRight.05:03
awmcclainTheMuso: I have checked the MOTU pages; Right now this is just going in my PPA05:03
TheMusoOk.05:04
awmcclainBasically, I'm looking for docs explaining the changes to "distribution" and any other ubuntu-specific changes i'd need to make to the package contents.05:05
ScottKawmcclain: For PPA specific help, you can try #launchpad.05:06
awmcclainScottK: I did. It's dead.05:06
awmcclain:(05:06
ScottKawmcclain: OK.  PPA isn't really an Ubuntu thing, it's a Launchpad thing, so although you may get some help here, it's not really the right place.05:09
awmcclainScottK: Ah, sorry. I was really just looking for a place for "making-debian-package-kosher-for-ubuntu" questions.05:11
awmcclainI very much appreciate all MOTU's help.05:11
ScottKOK.  That we can help with.05:11
ScottKFor Perl stuff all you should have to do is give it an appropriate revision number and change the distro.05:12
awmcclainWell, so in uploading to an unnamed apt-repository that rhymes with raunchrad, I found that my templates generated by some of the debhelper scripts, namely "Distribution: unstable". I was just wondering if there were any other things I should watch out for. And what is the correct syntax for distro?05:14
awmcclains/scripts/ scripts didn't work05:15
ScottKNormally for an Ubuntu upload that's unique, we append ubuntu1 to the debian revision, so 0.93-1 would be updated to 0.93-1ubuntu1.  If the upstream version isn't in Debian yet, then it's a 0, e.g. 0.94-0ubuntu1.05:18
ScottKFor a backport, we add ~release so that it has a lower revision number and upgrades work.  e.g. 0.94-0ubuntu1~gutsy.05:19
ScottKerr 0.94-0ubuntu1~gutsy105:19
ScottKThen I tack a ~ppa1 on the end of that so that if it makes it into the official repo, then the official revision number is higher.05:19
ScottKThat's how I do it.05:20
ScottKawmcclain: ^^05:20
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive shows you a number of examples.05:21
awmcclainAnd if there aren't any ubuntu-specific changes, you don't add the -ubuntuX... i think i remember reading that.05:22
awmcclainIf i want to specify the distro as, say, gutsy and hardy, how would I do that?05:22
ScottKIf you're uploading to Ubuntu (or PPA) and not to Debian, then by definition there's an Ubuntu specific change because Debian doesn't have it.05:23
ScottKYou specify that in debian/changelog05:23
ScottKSame line you put the version in.05:23
ScottKFYI, the pkg-perl team in Debian seems pretty open.  If you're making Perl packages, you might want to consider getting them into Debian (and thus in the next Ubuntu release).05:24
Caesaremgent: what's his launchpad user name?06:00
Caesaremgent: nm, I think I've found him06:00
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\shmoins07:06
slangasekplus07:09
StevenKcube07:10
slangasek... cube?07:12
StevenKSure, it's a mathematical function, like plus07:12
slangasekok07:12
slangasekI was speaking French, but ok ;)07:12
StevenKOh, that wasn't clear :-)07:12
\shdamn07:19
\shthe first time I requested something over ubuntus requesttracker...hopefully you can solve this mess07:20
Hobbsee\sh: what have you done?07:33
\shHobbsee, I'm getting now spam mails via canonical smtp servers with my ubuntu address...07:33
\shlast week it was only one a day...now I'm getting them at least once per 2 hours or so..I'll save them now to make a stat out of it...07:34
Hobbsee\sh: ah yeah.  That happens.07:34
Hobbsee\sh: as in, they're coming in via the canonical smtp, ie they're going to your @ubuntu.com address07:35
Hobbseethey like spammng them07:35
\shHobbsee, yes, but a simple content filter should help...(looking for sender lines like shermann@ubuntu.com, checking for recipient lines like shermann@ubuntu.com, drop that mail if it's not coming from known servers)07:38
\shas we know that we don't use the canonical smtp servers to send mail for @ubuntu.com addresses, because the known addresses a forward only ones07:38
StevenK\sh: Er,07:38
StevenK\sh: Sure we do07:38
StevenKWhat do you think requestsync does?07:39
\shStevenK, -EWRONGIMPLEMENTATION then...or provide methods for using smtp auth via lp accounts or whatever07:39
StevenKYou're still able to send via @ubuntu.com07:40
dholbachgood morning07:41
\shStevenK, ok...then add a contentfilter which checks even the gpg signature of the sender...afaik for creating bugs it needs a valid gpg signature ...07:42
\shor just add smtp auth functionality towards fjordland and let the smtp auth methods check against known LP accounts07:42
\shStevenK, but fact is, I don't think that it's normal to send mail from: xxx@ubuntu.com to the very same xxx@ubuntu.com via direct injection to fjordland...07:47
StevenK\sh: No, I agree that should be fairly uncommon07:47
awmcclainI'm repackaging an upstream SVN version which has an existing debian folder (and tons of its dependencies). What's the best way to handle both the changes to the debian package and the changes that need to be made to make it ubuntu compliant?07:54
zasfI'm trying to build gnome-applets from svn08:40
zasfI'm using pbuilder but I get some errors I don't understand08:40
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zasfthis is the end of pbuilder build -> http://pastebin.com/m2460e88108:42
dholbachzasf: you could try asking in #ubuntu-desktop - did you run ./autogen.sh?08:44
dholbachor gnome-autogen.sh rather08:44
zasfdaniel, I added DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT := $(CURDIR)/$(DEB_SRCDIR)/autogen.sh to debian/rules08:45
dholbachthen best ask in #ubuntu-desktop08:46
zasfthanks08:46
james_wdesktop-file-validate is reminding me that "Encoding" is deprecated, should it just be removed?10:41
FujitsuIf you're otherwise rewriting the .desktop, please kill it.10:42
FujitsuBut don't kill it if it'd be the only modification.10:42
james_wsure, I'm adding OnlyShowIn for a milestoned bug10:43
james_wI'll just add it as a recommendation to the bug with the patch, this package has a maintainer.10:44
james_wthanks Fujitsu10:44
hyperairhi there. is there any chance that bug #186938 be uploaded into the repository before the final release? nautilus-wallpaper is currently completely broken11:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186938 in nautilus-wallpaper "nautilus-wallpaper not working in hardy heron after update to nautilus-2.21.6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18693811:00
hyperairi meant the fix for the bug. whoops11:02
james_whyperair: hi. I assume that it works?11:12
james_wfirst thing would be to clean up the version numbering and reduce it to a single changelog entry.11:12
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james_wyou need to get an ack from the desktop team for the upload though, that's what the last comment says11:13
hyperairjames_w: yes it works11:15
james_wgreat!11:16
hyperairso i need to get an ack from desktop team?11:17
hyperairhow do i do that?11:17
hyperairoh wait11:17
hyperairi just wait then11:17
hyperair=)11:17
james_wthey're subscribed11:17
hyperairawesome11:17
james_wif you clean up the debdiff then you could ask here11:18
hyperairalright i'll get on it11:18
LaibschHi, when is revu.tauware.de coming live again?  The day that hardy is released (~1 week)?11:21
james_wLaibsch: the archive for intrepid doesn't open straight away after the release of hardy.11:23
james_wI think it's hoped to have revu back online before that though.11:23
Laibsch"that" being what?11:24
FujitsuEr, isn't it working now?11:25
Laibschyes, it is working11:25
Fujitsuspooky looks OK.11:25
Laibschthe website is up11:25
hyperairjames_w: i've updated the changelog to show just one entry and built a new debdif11:25
hyperair*debdiff11:25
LaibschI was wondering when the revu process kicks back in11:25
hyperairjames_w: also uploaded to the bug already.11:26
FujitsuLaibsch: Ah, so you don't mean any technical issues?11:28
Laibschno, sorry if my message was confusing11:35
LaibschI want to push a few packages into debian/ubuntu which aren't there yet11:35
Laibschhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=gourmet is an example11:36
FujitsuI'd strongly advise you to push them to Debian.11:36
LaibschI think I already did11:38
LaibschLet me check11:38
FujitsuNo point pushing them through REVU, then.11:38
LaibschWell, I did not, it turns out11:38
FujitsuPlease do.11:39
Laibschand the reason is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12176586/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.gourmet_0.13.7-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz11:39
LaibschI'll see if it builds in hardy11:39
FujitsuI thought you said it wasn't in Ubuntu...11:39
LaibschIt's been a while and I don't remember where and why I got stuck exactly11:39
LaibschFujitsu: It's not11:40
LaibschThat is my ppa11:40
FujitsuAh. THat's wrong versioning.11:40
LaibschOF course ;-)11:40
FujitsuThat implies it's in Debian, and Ubuntu.11:40
LaibschI am not so well-versed yet11:40
LaibschWhich is why I tought revu might be a good idea for revision11:40
LaibschI don't use debian at all11:41
* Hobbsee wonders hwo to list all build depends in a package, without downloading the source11:50
Hobbseefound it.11:51
slytherinHobbsee: if you have deb-src urls in your sources.list then ... :-)11:51
lagaHobbsee: how?11:52
Hobbseegrep-dctrl -s Build-Depends -F Package konversation -n /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources11:52
lagahum11:52
slytherinHobbsee: or you can use launchpad. :-D11:52
lagai think i'll use apt-get source. ;)11:52
Hobbseeslytherin: er, yes, i can do that....11:52
Hobbseelaga: not for ia32libs or something :P11:53
Hobbseelaga: i have a file called UsefulCommands.  It contains a lot of htese runes, and what they do11:53
lagaHobbsee: you should mirror it on the wiki :)11:53
Hobbseeheh11:53
Hobbseesome of it's already there11:53
Laibschwhat is the correct version for a gutsy package where upstream source is release 0.13.7-1.  The package is neither in ubuntu or debian.  0.13.7-1-0ubuntu1~gutsy?11:54
HobbseeLaibsch: add a 1 at the end, then yeah, i'd say so.11:55
HobbseeLaibsch: you may need to go to 0.13.7.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 or so, to avoid it being native.11:56
FujitsuErm.11:56
Fujitsuubuntu1 implies it's in Ubuntu.11:56
FujitsuMaybe -0+ppa1~gutsy111:56
Hobbseelaga: a lot of it is seeds stuff, etc.11:56
Hobbseelaga: so not useful to a lot of people11:56
lagaHobbsee: seeds = the evil11:56
* Hobbsee doesn't midn them - or at least, the last incarnation of them11:56
lagaHobbsee: i probably need to be exposed to them a bit longer to take the scariness away11:57
Hobbseehehe11:58
lagai'm just happy the mythbuntu alternate disk is working now, after bugging cjwatson for like ten times :)11:58
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james_wHi all. If anyone has a bit of time it would be great to fix https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/link-monitor-applet/+bug/18531812:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185318 in link-monitor-applet "link-monitor-applet dependency problems" [Medium,Confirmed]12:08
LaibschThe package I am trying to build needs "Error: PyGTK-2.3.93 or newer is required."12:10
LaibschI have "python-gtk2 (>=2.3.93)" in build-deps but still the build from scratch fails.12:11
LaibschDo I need a different package?  python-gtk2 2.12.0 is being installed into the chroot.12:11
Laibschhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/12176586/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.gourmet_0.13.7-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:11
james_wLaibsch: look in configure.ac or configure.in for the test that it being used.12:14
james_wLaibsch: ah, sorry, wrong end of the stick12:15
Laibschyep, no configure file12:15
HobbseeLaibsch: try the -dev package of that12:28
Laibschhm, of course!12:28
FujitsuHobbsee: Can I convince you to let me upload/sync http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mpich/news/20080416T210221Z.html?12:36
FujitsuIt fixes an upgrade issue I just discovered.12:36
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HobbseeFujitsu: fine12:37
FujitsuHobbsee: Thanks. Am I likely to get a sync processed, or should I do it myself?12:38
HobbseeFujitsu: unsure, ask slangasek12:39
FujitsuI guess I need to wait for approval anyway, so I might as well request it.12:39
Hobbseei'm assuming they'll do another run, so, i haven't synced the one i want done yet12:39
Hobbseesarah@saturn:~% apt-cache unmet -i | grep Package | wc -l                9:40PM12:40
Hobbsee10712:40
Hobbseehmmm12:40
IulianHi12:41
slangasekfurther syncs for hardy/universe are probably subject to archive admin availability, and the ease with which we can determine that it's been acked by motu-release12:41
Hobbseeslangasek: are you accepting all ones done by motu-release members are acked?12:46
Skiessi!info vlc13:54
ubotuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 1135 kB, installed size 3228 kB13:54
Skiessi...13:54
Skiessi!info+1 vlc13:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info+1 vlc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:55
Fujitsu!info vlc hardy13:55
ubotuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1113 kB, installed size 3228 kB13:55
Skiessihttp://wiki.videolan.org/Changelog/0.8.6f13:55
FujitsuI didn't notice a new CVE.13:56
* Fujitsu looks.13:56
FujitsuOnly in VLC.13:56
FujitsuCan they release things so frequently with security fixes.13:56
FujitsuI think their codebase probably needs to be blown away and rewritten properly, but I can't see that happening...13:57
slytherinthe day gstreamer supports DVD fully, VLC will become irrelevant on linux.14:00
* laga doesnt use gstreamer at all, AFAIK14:01
slytherinlaga: What do you use then? mplayer?14:01
FujitsuWhat's missing in GStreamer DVD support? Menus?14:02
lagaslytherin: mplayer, xine, amarok, vlc, mythtv.14:02
slytherinFujitsu: yes, and subtitles14:02
FujitsuAh.14:02
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slytherinlaga: wow, I used to use xine few years back but these days totem/rhythmbox is my favourite combination except when I have to play VCD. At that time I use mplayer.14:03
lagaslytherin: i dont use gnome, so my exposure to gstreamer is limited14:04
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norsettoscottk: could I have your opinion on bug 219121 ?15:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219121 in nautilus-wallpaper "nautilus extensions still not in accordance with latest libnautilus" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21912115:33
Zelutcan anyone give me some insight into jigdo? particularly, what makes up the .template file?16:55
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james_wZelut: hi. Have you seen http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/howjigdoworks.html#THE.TEMPLATEFILE ?17:06
StucKmanhi all. I'm trying to backport hardy's lm-sensors-3 to feisty. I had to modify one of the Makefiles, and now I'm getting undefined references, even if the correct objects get into the library and the compilation later links to the correct library. can anyone help with this?17:07
StucKmanI can provide more info, collecting right now17:07
StucKmanhttp://pastebin.lugmen.org.ar/400317:12
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RainCTHow can I install .po files (with cdbs)?17:51
dokoScottK, sistypoty: please could you have a look at bug #191658 ?17:53
dokoor another MOTU17:53
ScottKdoko: Looking17:53
dokoScottK: this is for UVF exception (packaged as new source and binaries)17:54
ScottKRight.17:54
ScottKdoko: For the FFe, you need two motu-release.  I just acked it, so that's half of it.17:56
dokoScottK: I know ...17:57
ScottKdoko: Sorry.  Just making sure.17:57
dokoScottK: but no others are here ...17:58
ScottKnorsetto: I acked your nautilis-wallpaper bug.  You around?17:58
ScottKWe'll see about him.17:58
norsettoScottk: nautilis-wallpaper?17:59
ScottKnorsetto: bug 21912117:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219121 in nautilus-wallpaper "nautilus extensions still not in accordance with latest libnautilus" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21912117:59
norsettoscottk: oh right, thats eiciel, thanks!17:59
ScottKWhichever package it was that you actually had a question about.17:59
ScottKnorsetto: Would you please have a look at doko's bug ^^^18:00
norsettoscottk: just a sec, I'm fixing 219245 right now18:00
ScottKK18:00
asomethingAny universe sponsors around willing to look at Bug #218172 for me? It already has a motu-release ACK.18:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 218172 in pychess "pychess fails to run on hardy kde4" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21817218:03
RainCTasomething: I'm looking at it18:06
asomethingRainCT: Thanks!18:07
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RainCTasomething: Great, uploading it now. Thanks.18:16
asomethingRainCT: Thank you!18:17
norsettobug 19165818:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191658 in ubuntu "GlassFish V2 UR1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19165818:30
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emgentheya people19:01
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lagabryce__: you working on bug #144322?19:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144322 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "interlacing broken in gutsy on radeon/ati open source driver" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14432219:21
bryce_laga nope19:21
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norsettowe need help with bug 21934621:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219346 in tseries "r-base transition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21934621:23
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* laga wonders if someone wants to ack a FFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-diskless/+bug/21935622:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219356 in mythbuntu-diskless "mythbuntu-diskless-client-builder udeb breaks d-i" [Undecided,New]22:31
slangaseklaga: superm1 is empowered to ack those for mythbuntu22:32
lagaoh, he is. thanks.22:33
lagaslangasek: "those" == anything related to mythtv or just -diskless?22:33
RainCTlaga: anything related to mythubuntu (which is in universe)22:34
RainCTwell, I'm off.. good night all22:34
RainCTs/which/as long as it/22:34
lagagreat22:35
crimsunslangasek: should we be mentioning MOTU-Release ACKs to you post-upload?22:35
lagaless paperwork is always good22:35
slangasekcrimsun: preferably to the archive admin on duty or to $member_of_release team, not to me specifically ;)22:37
crimsunslangasek: ok.  Are you on duty? ;)22:38
slangasekno, I'm up past my post-RC bedtime22:38
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