[00:14] <Tu13es> hmm
[00:14] <Tu13es> so, I've got a Mac Mini that's running gutsy
[00:15] <Tu13es> I figure I should hook it up to my TV as some sort of media server/player
[00:15] <Tu13es> will mythbuntu be something similar to FrontRow?
[00:18] <Killerkiwi> Tu13es: from what i know about frontrow myth will do a lot more
[00:18] <Tu13es> heh, I don't doubt that, FrontRow is pretty crippled
[00:18] <Tu13es> it is very pretty, though
[00:20] <Killerkiwi> elisa is pretty... but it dosnt have pvr.. yet
[00:21] <Tu13es> I don't have a TV tuner
[00:21] <Tu13es> if that means anything
[00:21] <Killerkiwi> so you just want a music player / photo storage?....
[00:22] <Killerkiwi> or are you going to buy a tunrer?
[00:24] <Tu13es> music/video/photo pretty much
[00:24] <Tu13es> I've got a Tivo for recording TV
[00:26] <c3rb3rus5> so is there any particular reason that mytharchive does not like my machine? i am trying to burn 2 shows with cutlists to dvd
[00:26] <c3rb3rus5> standard def
[00:26] <c3rb3rus5> mpeg2 since they were recorded from firewire
[00:27] <c3rb3rus5> and mythtranscode fails to remove commercials
[00:27] <c3rb3rus5> no idea why
[00:28] <Killerkiwi> Tu13es: myth will do all that... but a tuner is where it comes into its own.... no Tivo here in new zealand so I don't know what there like
[00:29] <Tu13es> well, technically my tivo is in my closet for now
[00:29] <Tu13es> the UI is _awesome_
[00:29] <Tu13es> well, figure i might as well try out mythbuntu
[00:30] <Killerkiwi> well my wife can work the mythtv box with a remote so it isnt too bad
[00:31] <Killerkiwi> Id like to see elisa be a front end that would be cool
[00:31] <Killerkiwi> http://elisa.fluendo.com/screenshots/
[00:32] <Killerkiwi> it already does music photos etc like you afteer
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> Killerkiwi, want to code it?
[00:33] <Killerkiwi> tgm4883_laptop: If I had the time.. lol, It shouldnt be that hard Im suprised no one has a t least started....
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> well actually it's not totally straight forward
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> elisa uses gstreamer, mythtv does not
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> although there is a gmyth package that should help it along
[00:34] <Killerkiwi> tgm4883_laptop: so... just leave the backend alone
[00:34] <Killerkiwi> I just want a front end
[00:34] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you want the frontend to do?
[00:34] <Killerkiwi> elisa can already to uPnp from myth
[00:34] <Killerkiwi> view myth with fast forward rewind
[00:34] <Killerkiwi> allow scheduling
[00:35] <Killerkiwi> thats all I want ;)
[00:35] <c3rb3rus5> i htink that mythtranscode hates me
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> allow scheduling, which means that you need to talk to the backend
[00:35] <Killerkiwi> tgm4883_laptop: its not so hard... I've looked at the code that already exists it just needs expanding
[00:36] <tgm4883_laptop> yet you don't want to do it?
[00:36] <Killerkiwi> time issue
[00:36] <tgm4883_laptop> the gmyth code needs expanding, then a plugin needs made for elisa
[00:36] <Killerkiwi> libmyth-python
[00:37] <Killerkiwi> Im not sure about the fast forward rewind issue... i not sure where that issue is myth or uPnp or elisa
[00:44] <ahave> is there a way to keep the program guide info from lagging?
[00:44] <c3rb3rus5> this may be a stupid question.... but is mythtranscode configured out of the box for mythbuntu?
[00:44] <c3rb3rus5> at least for some default settings?
[01:01] <c3rb3rus5> what role does .ICEauthority play?
[01:10] <ahave> Hello, using ubuntu.. trying to setup a SAMBA share, and i get this error: http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=halpqa0.png   Can anyone advise?
[01:10] <ahave> using mythbuntu*
[01:17] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: i'm pretty sure that you just have to click the box and hit apply in the mythbuntu control center
[01:18] <c3rb3rus5> if not, try looking here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[01:18] <ahave> c3rb3rus5, thanks. Yes i have tried both of your suggestions.. which put me into the situation that i am in now
[01:18] <ahave> (with the error)
[01:19] <c3rb3rus5> are you being prompted to log in on the win end?
[01:20] <ahave> nope, i get that pop up
[01:20] <c3rb3rus5> try navigating to \\MediaPC-MythBuntu in the explorer bar.  from the error box it looks like win is not seeing the right server name
[01:21] <c3rb3rus5> what is the hostname of your mythbox?
[01:25] <ahave> i can access it via \\192.168.1.102\ (local IP)
[01:25] <c3rb3rus5> right
[01:25] <ahave> so how can i correct the link?
[01:26] <c3rb3rus5> i would guess that its  something wrong with the hostname
[01:34] <ahave> c3rb3rus5, i imagine that has to do with how i setup my smb.conf file..
[01:34] <ahave> (i did modify it)
[01:35] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: could be.. the only thing i really know about that file is how to enable local shares by following htat link i sent earlier
[01:36] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: what is your host name set as
[01:36] <ahave> c3rb3rus5, host name according ot smb.conf?
[01:37] <c3rb3rus5> does it list your hostname in there?
[01:37] <ahave> idk
[01:37] <ahave> where can i look up my host name?
[01:37] <c3rb3rus5> just type 'hostname' in a terminal window
[01:37] <ahave> oh :)
[01:37] <ahave> MediaPC-Mythbuntu
[01:39] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: look here:http://www.debianadmin.com/change-hostname-or-server-name-of-a-linux-machine.html
[01:43] <ahave> c3rb3rus5, mah. hostname -a returns 'unkown host'
[01:44] <c3rb3rus5> hmm
[01:46] <scarter> ahave, c3rb3rus5: if i can interject... coming in toward the middle of this, but is there a WINS server on the network or an entry in either the HOSTS or LMHOSTS file on the client for the server?
[01:51] <ahave> scarter, hello :)  the network consists of 3 XPs and my mythtv linux box running SAMBA... does that answer your question?
[01:51] <ahave> scarter, i have not made any corrections to any of the XP clients
[01:52] <ahave> scarter, i can acces the share using its local IP in windows explorer with full read/write permissions (as i set)
[02:02] <ahave> scarter, any ideas?
[02:23] <scarter> sorry, stepped away for a sec... still there?
[02:23] <ahave> yup
[02:23] <ahave> can you explain to me what a wins server is?
[02:24] <ahave> i enabled it in the smb.conf file and it appeared to make all other other computer on the network disappear
[02:24] <scarter> ahave: is the SAMBA server also set as the WINS (Windows Intranet Name Service) server?
[02:24] <ahave> scarter, i just now set it as that, yes...
[02:24] <ahave> i still have the issue tho
[02:27] <scarter> ahave: after enabling it, add the info to your DHCP server (if you're running one) or if STATIC, add the address to the appropriate dialog box or ethernet configuration file then all the machines either need to be rebooted or have their network restarted (varies with OS or distributions)
[02:28] <ahave> scarter, can you elaborate on what info i need to add to my DHCP server (linksys router)
[02:32] <ahave> brb
[02:32] <scarter> ahave: ok, linksys doesn't support a WINS entry, so you'll need to add it to each client
[02:32] <scarter> ok
[02:38] <scarter> ahave: back?
[02:39] <c3rb3rus5> scarter: i have never had to set up WINS before, what is its purpose?
[02:40] <scarter> linux client = /etc/smb.conf OR /etc/samba/smb.conf (varies with distro), XP client = Right-Click on Network Neighborhood/Places and choose Properties, then right-click on the interface to your LAN and choose Properties then choose TCP/IP from the box and click on Properties then ??? the same place you can add additional DNS servers and IP addresses... somewhere off an advanced tab or button, Vista client = no clue. i've be
[02:40] <scarter> en ALL linux for almost 3 years, so while i've seen Vista, i've not used it enough to know the particulars
[02:42] <scarter> ahave: with a mixed OS environment, you need one place to keep track of machine names and IPs. windows machines will talk to each other over a hackedup form of the old netbui protocal, but other OS's don't have that, so we need a single place for each to register themselves so that all OS's can ask that machine who's where
[02:44] <c3rb3rus5> what role does .ICEauthority play?
[02:45] <scarter> c3rb3rus5: with a mixed OS environment, you need one place to keep track of machine names and IPs. windows machines will talk to each other over a hackedup form of the old netbeui protocal, but other OS's don't have that, so we need a single place for each to register themselves so that all OS's can ask that machine who's where
[02:45] <c3rb3rus5> i believe that it may be interfering with my mythtranscode
[02:46] <c3rb3rus5> scarter: strange, i have never had t oset one up before, and i've had no problems getting my mythbuntu bix recognizerd on my win network
[02:48] <scarter> sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. noticed it most when friends would bring fully-patched XP boxes or Vista boxes over. a little peek at the traffic showed they would claim dominance over hosting the peer-to-peer name source election. cured by specifically adding WINS support to my mythbuntu box
[02:49] <scarter> then DHCP would issue the WINS number and no more fighting over who hosts the names for resolution
[02:50] <c3rb3rus5> interesting
[02:50] <c3rb3rus5> i plan on moving to all linux in a week
[02:50] <scarter> there's a M$ article about how it works and which OS's take priority over other in the windows world
[02:51] <c3rb3rus5> so i won't be dealing with smb anymore
[02:51] <c3rb3rus5> its great in a pinch, but long file xfers just dont work out over it
[02:51] <scarter> so true, scp and/or nfs work much better
[02:53] <c3rb3rus5> i can't tell you how many times the xfers have just stopped working in the middle, making me start over
[02:53] <scarter> along with rsync for hosting a central backup location... my mythbox has 2.2TB of space for recordings, DVDs and rsync'd backups
[02:53] <c3rb3rus5> damn
[02:53] <c3rb3rus5> what exactly is rsync, never used it, but i have heard about it
[02:55] <scarter> i'm also dad with a wife and four high school/college kids that were always messing up their project docs, so i rsync multiple times a day for multiple versions, after the first rsync, only diffs are saved, lightening fast...
[02:56] <scarter> rsync (Remote Synchronization) - excellent way to keep files/folders sync'd across a network with one or more machines
[02:56] <c3rb3rus5> hmm
[02:56] <c3rb3rus5> i'll have to look into that
[02:56] <c3rb3rus5> is that similar to M$'s volume shadow copy?
[02:57] <scarter> on my lappies, i rsync and encrypt my vital info to an SD card that stays in the machine
[02:58] <scarter> vsc is usually for making copies of open files by using the 'shadowed' version, rsync doesn't care if the files are open or not (with an extra command switch you can skip them)
[02:59] <c3rb3rus5> i see.  for some reason i was under the impression that it provided versioning, ala cvs or svn
[03:03] <scarter> no, the script i wrote provides versioning by maintaining multiple backup folders. if no changes, no backup. if only 3 changes, only three files new backup folder. folders are date/time stamped and 'current' is linked to the most recent with links to the most recent copy of any file in whichever backup folder contains it, but if you want a previous version, just manually go back to a date/time stamp before the 'current'
[03:04] <c3rb3rus5> i see, cool
[03:05] <scarter> i'm sure that there's an app out there that does something similar, but i've used a variation of the script for many, many years across different OS's with rsync
[03:06] <c3rb3rus5> so  i renamed my .ICEauthority file (rather then delete) and mythtranscode seems to finish without error (this is using mytharchive).  I am seeing the following error in the mythburn.log though:
[03:06] <c3rb3rus5> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[03:20] <a1fa> ok
[03:20] <a1fa> sound is skipping a bit
[03:20] <a1fa> what gives? 8.04?
[03:31] <bobcallaway> my TV cards sound does not work? help please
[03:32] <sceo> Just made my switch from Knoppmyth to Mythbuntu, and like that I'm running Ubuntu underneath the hood.  Anyway, one change I noticed is that when I fast-forward through a recorded program and then press the play button, it pauses (cuz it's mapped to P)... how do I make it just 'play' (since my remote has a separate pause button)
[03:34] <sceo> can I have the mapped remote button be Ctrl+P instead of just "P" ?
[03:35] <a1fa> edit /etc/lirc
[03:38] <bobcallaway> hello sound card no sound hauppage with FM radio booktree BT878
[03:39] <bobcallaway> booktree bt878 alsa mixer sound on tv card nothing coming out
[03:53] <pdragon> woo! got spdif working on my new mythtv box :D
[04:19] <aliby> Any idea why I'm getting a RingBuf error (Invalid file fd -1) when trying to watch live tv?
[05:30] <Khonshu3> anyone know if the KWorld Connexant chipset cards can be supported under Linux?
[05:31] <Tuv0k> !hardware
[05:31] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[05:32] <Khonshu3> !hardware
[05:32] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[05:33] <Khonshu3> cool
[05:33] <Khonshu3> I didn't find anything on Kworld searching the Ubuntu wiki or forums
[05:33] <Khonshu3> well, nothing useful
[05:33] <Khonshu3> ok, I found stuff, but...
[05:33] <Khonshu3> mostly stuff on changing configs, etc.
[05:34] <Khonshu3> but nothing on making it work, or figuring out what info needs to go into /etc/modprobe.d/bttv
[07:35] <shizno> is it planned for mythbuntu 8.04 to come out on the same day as hardy?
[07:36] <tgm4883> yes
[07:57] <shizno> cool
[10:32] <Easy_Rider9999> help I set audio to 48khz and now the speed of the audio is to fast!
[10:33] <Easy_Rider9999> how can i record with mpeg2 without hardware encoding?
[13:42] <Keithamus> Im in need of some help regarding mythbuntu and the Hauppauge Nova T 500 - I can't tune into any channels, does anyone else have this problem?
[14:47] <Randall>  1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
[14:47] <Randall>  2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
[14:47] <Randall> Adam and Eve
[14:47] <Randall>  4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
[14:47] <Randall>       When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [b] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed the man The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to 
[14:47] <Randall>  8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground.trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
[14:47] <Randall>  10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin [e] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. [f] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it run
[14:47] <Randall>  15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
[14:47] <Randall>  18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
[14:47] <Randall>  19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
[14:48] <Randall>       But for Adam [g] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [h] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [i] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
[14:48] <Randall>  23 The man said,
[14:48] <Randall>        "This is now bone of my bones
[14:48] <Randall>        and flesh of my flesh;
[14:48] <Randall>        she shall be called 'woman, [j] '
[14:48] <Randall>        for she was taken out of man."
[14:48] <Randall>  24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
[14:48] <Randall>  25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
[14:48] <Randall>  1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
[14:48] <Randall>  2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
[14:48] <Randall> Adam and Eve
[14:48] <Randall>  4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
[14:48] <Randall>       When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens- 5 and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth [b] and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth [c] and there was no man to work the ground, 6 but streams [d] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground- the LORD God formed the man The Hebrew for man (adam) sounds like and may be related to 
[14:48] <Randall>  8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground.trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
[14:48] <Randall>  10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin [e] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. [f] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it run
[14:49] <Randall>  15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
[14:49] <Randall>  18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
[14:49] <Randall>  19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
[14:49] <Randall>       But for Adam [g] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [h] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [i] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
[14:49] <Randall>  23 The man said,
[14:49] <Randall>        "This is now bone of my bones
[14:49] <Randall>        and flesh of my flesh;
[14:49] <Randall>        she shall be called 'woman, [j] '
[14:49] <Randall>        for she was taken out of man."
[14:49] <Randall> The Fall of Man  1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
[14:49] <Randall>  24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
[14:49] <Randall>  25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
[14:49] <Randall>  2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit rom the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or ryou will die.' "
[14:49] <Randall>  4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
[14:49] <Randall>  6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
[14:49] <Randall>  8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"
[14:50] <Randall>  10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."
[14:50] <Randall>  11 And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"
[14:50] <Randall>  12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me.she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."
[14:50] <Randall>  13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
[14:50] <Randall>       The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
[14:50] <Randall>  14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
[14:50] <Randall>        "Cursed are you above all the livestock
[14:50] <Randall>        and all the wild animals!
[14:50] <Randall>        You will crawl on your belly
[14:50] <Randall>        and you will eat dust
[14:50] <Randall>        all the days of your life.
[14:50] <Randall>  15 And I will put enmity
[14:50] <Randall>        between you and the woman,
[14:50] <Randall>        and between your offspring [a] and hers;
[14:50] <Randall>        he will crush [b] your head,
[14:50] <Randall>        and you will strike his heel."
[14:50] <Randall>  16 To the woman he said,
[14:50] <Randall>        "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
[14:50] <Randall>        with pain you will give birth to children.
[14:50] <Randall>        Your desire will be for your husband,
[14:50] <Randall>        and he will rule over you."
[14:50] <Randall>  17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,'
[14:51] <Randall>        "Cursed is the ground because of you;
[14:51] <Randall>        through painful toil you will eat of it
[14:51] <Randall>        all the days of your life.
[14:51] <Randall>  18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
[14:51] <Randall>        and you will eat the plants of the field.
[14:51] <Randall>  19 By the sweat of your brow
[14:51] <Randall>        you will eat your food
[14:51] <Randall>        until you return to the ground,
[14:51] <Randall>        since from it you were taken;
[14:51] <Randall>        for dust you are
[14:51] <Randall>        and to dust you will return."
[14:51] <Randall>  20 Adam [c] named his wife Eve, [d] because she would become the mother of all the living.
[14:51] <Randall>  21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the 
[14:51] <Randall> Footnotes:
[14:57] <Randall> d
[14:57] <Randall> Cain and Abel
[14:57] <Randall>  1 Adam [a] lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. [b] She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth [c] a man." 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
[14:57] <Randall>       Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. 3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. 4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
[14:57] <Randall>  6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it."
[14:57] <Randall>  8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." [d] And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
[14:57] <Randall>  9 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"
[14:57] <Randall>       "I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
[14:57] <Randall>  10 The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
[14:57] <Randall>  13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
[14:57] <Randall>  15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [e] ; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, [f] east of Eden.
[14:58] <Randall>  17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. 18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech.
[14:58] <Randall>  19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah. 20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock. 21 His brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play the harp and flute. 22 Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of [g] bronze and iron. Tubal-Cain's sister was Naamah.
[14:58] <Randall>  23 Lamech said to his wives,
[14:58] <Randall>        "Adah and Zillah, listen to me;
[14:58] <Randall>        wives of Lamech, hear my words.
[14:58] <Randall>        I have killed [h] a man for wounding me,
[14:58] <Randall>        a young man for injuring me.
[14:58] <Randall>  24 If Cain is avenged seven times,
[14:58] <Randall>        then Lamech seventy-seven times."
[14:58] <Randall>  25 Adam lay with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, [i] saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him." 26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh.
[14:58] <Randall>       At that time men began to call on [j] the name of the LORD.
[15:02] <otwin> heh, how frustrating must it be to flood a channel for 10 minutes and you are ignored by 56 users...
[15:07] <frink__> lol
[15:22] <pdragon> hah
[16:01] <Keithamus> Has anyone here got a Nova T 500, Im a bit stuck with configuring it.
[16:03] <darthanubis> !google
[16:03] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[16:03] <darthanubis> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI
[16:04] <darthanubis> http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Nova+T+500+mythtv&btnG=Google+Search
[16:07] <Keithamus> trust me darthanubis, I've been through google lots, and i've read the mythwiki page umpteen times.
[16:08] <darthanubis> well at least your better than most
[16:09] <Keithamus> yeah cheers.
[16:15] <hugolp> Keithamus:  the mythtv link will tell you step by step how to do it
[16:17] <Keithamus> hugolp: I've finished those steps, but Im having a problem with tuning it in.
[16:18] <hugolp> Keithamus:  have you seen the part where it says to include a line to start the amplifier?
[16:19] <Keithamus> yea hugolp, did that and it works afaict
[16:19] <Keithamus> my signal has been boosted also
[16:19] <hugolp> Keithamus: great
[16:20] <Keithamus> it says it cant fetch any tables, if i try to tune specifically; or if I do "Full Scan" it keeps saying no signal. The signal is at 45% though
[16:20] <hugolp> mmm and other turner do work with that signal?
[16:21] <darthanubis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/RC
[16:22] <tgm4883> darthanubis, but it's not released yet
[16:22] <darthanubis> yet its there
[16:22] <darthanubis> funny how that works
[16:22] <darthanubis> scheduled for today too, how odd
[16:23] <darthanubis> The Ubuntu developers are constantly bringing you the absolute latest and most stable software that the open source and free software communities have to offer. This is their latest result: the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS release candidate, which brings a host of excellent new features.
[16:23] <tgm4883> it was there yesterday too
[16:23] <darthanubis> sounds like an intro to me
[16:23] <darthanubis> but by all means, ignore that
[16:23] <tgm4883> probably there on wednesday too
[16:23] <darthanubis> frees up the servers
[16:24] <tgm4883> they don't write up the release statement the moment they release, they do it early.  Notice you can't download the ISO
[16:24]  * darthanubis "probably" brother
[16:24] <darthanubis> YOU can't
[16:25] <tgm4883> you talking from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[16:34] <tgm4883> darthanubis, i appoligize, apparently i AM the only one who can't see it.  I can however get it from a local mirror.  Thanks for the heads up
[16:35] <darthanubis> Its still being synced to all the mirrors.
[16:35] <darthanubis> your not alone
[16:36] <darthanubis> in #ubuntu+1 they are going ape over it
[16:36] <tgm4883> ah
[16:36] <darthanubis> like crackheads
[16:36] <darthanubis> :)
[16:59] <pdragon> just got the email
[17:25] <irishninja> greetings all
[17:26] <tgm4883> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_04_Release_Candidate
[17:27] <tgm4883_laptop> irishninja, hi
[17:27] <irishninja> it appears as though my mythbox can no longer play dvds
[17:30] <irishninja> I've reinstalled libdvdcss2 and have all the latest updates...yet still a DVD Mythbuntu will not play
[17:33] <irishninja> any idears?
[17:44] <pdragon> have you had your mythtv box since before version .21 was released?
[17:47] <pdragon> if so, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=728801
[17:50] <irishninja> I've had it less than a year
[17:50] <irishninja> it worked fine until about 2 weeks ago
[17:54] <irishninja> I'll give it a try
[18:00] <irishninja> didn't do anything
[18:00] <irishninja> so far as I can tell
[18:12] <pdragon> hmm... not sure
[18:12] <pdragon> oh! wait... i remember having a similar issue now
[18:13] <pdragon> for some reason it wasn't reading the configuration that my dvd drive was /dev/cdrom instead of /dev/dvd
[18:13] <pdragon> i made a symlink of /dev/dvd to /dev/cdrom and it fixed it
[18:13] <pdragon> not sure what your dvd drive is, but check that
[18:13] <pdragon> there was an error in the frontend log that it couldn't read from /dev/dvd
[18:14] <pdragon> so, check your log and see if there's something like that going on
[18:14] <irishninja> and where is the log?
[18:14] <pdragon> in  /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[18:16] <irishninja> ah...I'm getting "broken package" messages when trying to install/update ffmpeg and some others
[18:17] <tgm4883> ^^ Problem
[18:19] <irishninja> 2008-04-18 06:43:15.468 AFD: Opened codec 0x839c2c0$
[18:19] <irishninja> [mpeg2video @ 0xb7369ce8]ac-tex damaged at 11 17
[18:19] <irishninja> [mpeg2video @ 0xb7369ce8]Warning MVs not available
[18:22] <irishninja> O.o
[18:22] <tgm4883> irishninja, 8.04?
[18:23] <irishninja> yep
[18:23] <tgm4883> did you do a dist-upgrade?
[18:23] <tgm4883> cause that can break things
[18:24] <irishninja> not at the time this started happening...at least I don't recall doing one
[18:24] <tgm4883> which build did you install from?
[18:25] <tgm4883> also, can you pastebin your sources.list
[18:25] <irishninja> 8.04...after that I dunno
[18:26] <irishninja> no...7.10
[18:26] <irishninja> I just did a dist-upgrade today, but it's been doing this for a few weeks
[18:27] <tgm4883> can you pastebin your sources.list
[18:27] <tgm4883> and what is the output of uname -a
[18:28] <irishninja> Linux zeke-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:28] <tgm4883> irishninja, please pastebin your sources.list, i'm seeing issues here
[18:30] <irishninja> I'm a bit fuzzy in the head right now...where is sources.lst  :$
[18:30] <tgm4883> /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:32] <irishninja> deb cdrom:[Mythbuntu 7.10 - i386 (071021)]/ gutsy m$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main res$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates $
[18:32] <irishninja> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backport$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-upda$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy univ$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-back$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-secu$
[18:32] <irishninja> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-f$
[18:32] <irishninja> that's all it gives me in sources.lst
[18:32] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[18:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:33] <irishninja> ah
[18:35] <tgm4883> whats the output of apt-cache show mythtv | grep Version
[18:36] <irishninja> Version: 0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1 ... Version: 0.20.2-0ubuntu10.1 ... Version: 0.20.2-0ubuntu10
[18:37] <irishninja> blast...I gotta jet man...
[18:38] <irishninja> I do appreciate the time you gave me
[18:38] <irishninja> but I gotta work on this another time...PEACE
[18:39] <laga> digg! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_04_Release_Candidate
[19:07] <aliby> Does anyone know if the ATI E-Home Wonder works with bttv or ittv? everything I find seems to say that it's a bttv card but it doesnt currently work
[19:11] <irishninja> that didn't take as long as I thought it would
[20:48] <peperoni> hi all
[20:49] <peperoni> i need help with buttons and external apps
[20:49] <peperoni> nobody can help me ?
[20:58] <Ribs> Try asking a question
[20:58] <Ribs> well, a question other than "nobody can help me?"
[20:58] <darthanubis> !anyone | peperoni
[20:58] <ubotu> peperoni: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:00]  * laga applauds
[21:02] <darthanubis> ;)
[21:10] <peperoni> ok i'm here sorry
[21:10] <peperoni> this is the problem
[21:10] <peperoni> i have a script that calls kaffeine in this way: kaffeine -f -x xv && dcop kaffeine KaffeineIface playDvb
[21:11] <peperoni> i've created a button with action EXEC on the script
[21:11] <peperoni> but the focus of my remote remein on mythfrontend too
[21:11] <peperoni> remain
[21:11] <peperoni> i'm using kde
[21:12] <peperoni> kaffeine when start close the script
[21:12] <peperoni> but i don't want that
[21:12] <peperoni> the script mest s
[21:13] <peperoni> the script must stay open
[21:13] <peperoni> to have the focus only on kaffeine
[21:13] <peperoni> nobody can help me ?
[21:18] <laga> you can probably force the focus to kaffeine somehow, using one of the various config settings in kde ;)
[21:18] <laga> there's one for focus
[21:19] <laga> peperoni: maybe it'll stay open if you run kaffeine DVD
[21:20] <peperoni> how laga ?
[21:21] <laga> "kaffeine DVD"
[21:21] <laga> see kaffeine --help
[21:21] <peperoni> i'm newbie sorry
[21:21] <peperoni> wich settings in kde ?
[21:22] <peperoni> desktop settings ?
[21:22] <laga> "window behavior" maybe
[21:22] <peperoni> ok thx
[21:23] <peperoni> i've read "Strictly Focus
[21:23] <peperoni> Follows Mouse"
[21:23] <peperoni> where is that optin ?
[21:23] <peperoni> option
[21:23] <peperoni> and auto rise too
[21:24] <laga> you need to find out yourself, i don't know. i'm merely suggesting you might find such a setting there
[21:37] <peperoni> find it but doesn't wors
[21:37] <peperoni> works
[21:37] <peperoni> lirc works on the two applications at the same time
[21:37] <laga> then try telling kaffeine to launch the DVD directly instead of using dcop
[21:38] <peperoni> i use kaffeine for dvb
[21:38] <peperoni> not dvd
[21:39] <laga>   file                      File(s) to play. Can be a local file, a URL, a directory or 'DVD', 'VCD', 'AudioCD', 'DVB'.
[21:39] <peperoni> so you say kaffeine DVB
[21:39] <peperoni> i try wait
[21:39] <peperoni> pls
[21:39] <laga> yeah, i misread first
[21:43] <irishninja> what's a good way to go about fixing/replacing broken packages/dependencies?
[21:43] <irishninja> short of reinstalling, that is...
[21:43] <aliby> i could tell you on Gentoo but not for ubuntu :/
[21:44] <aliby> check the ubuntu forums
[21:45] <irishninja> could I possibly just uninstall the broken packages and make note of them and the unmet dependencies and then manually install them again?
[21:45] <laga> irishninja: sudo aptitude install simply?
[21:46] <irishninja> I'll give it a shot
[21:47] <laga> where "simply" was a part of the sentence, not part of the command
[21:47] <peperoni> nothing to do the focus remain active on mythfrontend to, i'v used the command kaffeine -p dvb -f
[21:47] <irishninja> ha...I guess I'm a little too literal minded
[22:00] <TazgodX> any word on if mythtv will work with AT&T U-Verse TV?
[22:01] <aliby> I don't see why it wouldnt?
[22:01] <TazgodX> cause its not like standard cable TV
[22:01] <TazgodX> its IPTV
[22:02] <aliby> Hmm
[22:02] <aliby> okay then I dont know :/
[22:02] <TazgodX> lol
[22:03] <TazgodX> i hvan't used my myth box in about 3 months, since i switched to U-Verse. curious if i can get it working again
[22:30] <peperoni> cya all
[22:37] <EvilGuru> Why can one not remove mysql-server without also removing the master-backend-master? (I presume that is the backend)
[22:39] <laga> EvilGuru: because backend-master depends on mysql-server.
[22:39] <laga> it should be safe to remove, the actual backend will stay on that box
[22:39] <EvilGuru> laga: That's seems fine