| bryce_ | heya | 02:10 |
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| bryce_ | hi soren | 06:01 |
| bryce_ | heya james | 06:21 |
| bryce_ | james_w: after dinner tonight I caught up with soeren and started peppering him with xrandr gui questions | 06:22 |
| bryce_ | james_w: he answered them sort of non-committally and then edged away from me very quickly! :-P | 06:22 |
| ubotu | New bug: #219069 in xorg (main) "FUJITSU SIEMENS Lifebook: VGA out cannot enabled (Hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219069 | 08:45 |
| seb128 | hey james_w | 09:03 |
| james_w | hi seb128 | 09:03 |
| seb128 | james_w: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/219014, have you seen similar issues during your testing? does the change drop you suggested will fix this one? | 09:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219014 in gnome-control-center "screen resolution pictures are connected" [Undecided,New] | 09:04 |
| james_w | I'm not really sure what the problem is in the first part, do you know? | 09:05 |
| james_w | "The two images don't look correct touching like in the picture attached." | 09:05 |
| james_w | what does he mean by "not correct?" | 09:06 |
| seb128 | look at the screenshot | 09:06 |
| james_w | the 19" is smaller than the 15"? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I think the complain is that the rectangle are touching | 09:07 |
| seb128 | where he expects some space between the drawings | 09:07 |
| seb128 | I've to agree it doesn't look really good this way | 09:07 |
| seb128 | there is lot of empty space | 09:07 |
| seb128 | so the monitors could use some rather than conflicting in the same corner | 09:08 |
| james_w | I was under the impression that they were supposed to be touching. | 09:09 |
| seb128 | ah, maybe | 09:10 |
| james_w | I suppose they don't have to be, but I though the aim was the screen would span the two monitors. | 09:10 |
| seb128 | the screenshot looks weird to be honest | 09:10 |
| james_w | yeah, it's not great | 09:10 |
| james_w | the second part of his problem should probably be filed as a separate bug against the driver by the sounds of it. | 09:11 |
| seb128 | james_w: not sure, is there anything detecting the screens plugged and doing dynamic change? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | it should run xrand --auto which is mapped to the screen switching key | 09:13 |
| james_w | I don't think there is anything that detects it. | 09:14 |
| james_w | hitting the "Detect displays" button and then applying may fix it up. | 09:15 |
| seb128 | ok, so that's not a driver bug, he just needs to press the key | 09:15 |
| james_w | I guess it's a wishlist bug to have hotplug support wherever it needs to go for this. | 09:15 |
| seb128 | right | 09:15 |
| mvo | is it known that xorg sometimes uses vesa instead of nv? I have a fresh altnernative install and get vesa on a nvidia 7600 | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | mvo: what's the pci-id of the card? | 09:52 |
| * mvo checks | 09:53 | |
| tjaalton | basically all the id's that the nv source lists should load nv | 09:53 |
| mvo | 10de:00f1 | 09:54 |
| mvo | (its a 6600, sorry) | 09:54 |
| tjaalton | hmm, not in nv.ids | 09:55 |
| tjaalton | I'll check teh source | 09:55 |
| tjaalton | the | 09:55 |
| tjaalton | nope, not listed.. try forcing it on the xorg.conf | 09:56 |
| tjaalton | oh right.. I guess it wont load | 09:57 |
| tjaalton | since the driver should refuse to load if the id is not listed there | 09:57 |
| mvo | oh | 09:57 |
| tjaalton | so, either it's a mistake or left out intentionally | 09:59 |
| mvo | ok, thanks | 10:00 |
| mvo | should I file a bug? | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | you could build the driver with the id added in nv_driver.c | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | yes | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | static SymTabRec NVKnownChipsets[] | 10:00 |
| mvo | LP or upstream bugtracker? | 10:02 |
| tjaalton | why not both :) | 10:02 |
| mvo | because I'm lazy :P | 10:02 |
| tjaalton | let me check the nv bugs first | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | see bug 207428 | 10:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207428 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "GF 7050 not supported" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207428 | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | a similar case | 10:05 |
| tjaalton | mvo: file on LP for now | 10:07 |
| mvo | I filed #219101 | 10:14 |
| mvo | is it worth just adding the pci id to see what happens? | 10:14 |
| tjaalton | mvo: yes, add it like the rest and compile | 10:20 |
| mvo | ok | 10:21 |
| ubotu | New bug: #210526 in linux-source-2.6.22 "The touchpad freezes everytime I restore system from standby (dup-of: 59867)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210526 | 10:26 |
| ubotu | New bug: #219101 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "nvidia 6600 not supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219101 | 10:26 |
| ubotu | New bug: #209477 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "trigger crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209477 | 10:30 |
| mvo | look fine | 10:37 |
| mvo | looks fine when adding the pci id | 10:37 |
| tjaalton | oh, nice | 10:38 |
| tjaalton | new lrm (fglrx 8.4) uploaded to my PPA (https://edge.launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive) | 10:46 |
| tjaalton | mvo: could you attach the Xorg.0.log from the patched nv to the bug. I'll forward it upstream | 10:48 |
| mvo | tjaalton: added, thanks! | 11:07 |
| ubotu | New bug: #219232 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "KDE4 hangs (black screen) on logout with fglrx driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219232 | 15:41 |
| ubotu | New bug: #216279 in tasks "Translation template is not being generated (dup-of: 188690)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216279 | 16:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #218489 in xorg (main) "X freeze when switching between OpenOffice and Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218489 | 16:21 |
| === dennda_ is now known as dennda | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #219285 in xorg (main) "Hardy Heron: screen turns off, Xorg 100%" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219285 | 17:55 |
| ubotu | New bug: #66478 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Crash when viewing flash sites (dup-of: 14911)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66478 | 18:14 |
| ubotu | New bug: #63257 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Firefox, shutdowns automatically when using a flash player... (dup-of: 14911)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63257 | 18:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #67806 in firefox (universe) "Firefox crash on gmail (dup-of: 14911)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67806 | 18:18 |
| ubotu | New bug: #67242 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "firefox crashes on flash content (dup-of: 14911)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67242 | 18:19 |
| ubotu | New bug: #219294 in xterm (main) "xterm segfaults if more than 9999 scroll lines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219294 | 18:21 |
| === bryce_ is now known as inkscape_bryce | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #219321 in xorg-server (main) "package xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 [modified: usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so] failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219321 | 19:36 |
| tjaalton | mvo: that ^^ bug is strange, because it happens during upgrade from gutsy to hardy, but the version that fails is from gutsy. so the upgrade process updates x-x-c twice and fails (obviously because of diversions..). theres a dupe somewhere too | 20:05 |
| inkscape_bryce | heya tjaalton | 20:06 |
| === inkscape_bryce is now known as bryyce | ||
| tjaalton | bryyce: howdy, how's XDC today? | 20:08 |
| tjaalton | no fglrx-8.4 for 8.04 btw, but maybe for .1 | 20:08 |
| tjaalton | (or whatever the version might be at the time) | 20:08 |
| bryyce | ok | 20:09 |
| bryyce | XDC going pretty well. So far today was Tinderbox for X, XCB, and now Wine & X | 20:09 |
| bryyce | I'm going to try to show/share some of my earlier Crucible/X test framework stuff with Chris Bell | 20:10 |
| tjaalton | ok cool | 20:11 |
| tjaalton | ask someone if TTM is going to make it in 2.6.26 :) | 20:13 |
| tjaalton | I guess it's the one Intrepid will use | 20:13 |
| tjaalton | k, dinner & some random movie, bbl -> | 20:14 |
| mvo | tjaalton: hm, maintainer scripts are meant to be idempotent - still, strange problem | 20:15 |
| mvo | tjaalton: I asked him for the upgrade logs, that should give us a apt/dpkg terminal log | 20:20 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: keithp says TTM will go in "after I rewrite it" | 20:32 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: which he thinks will be about 1 month | 20:32 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: what was the issue with getting fglrx 8.4 in? just too late in the cycle, or were there bugs? | 20:48 |
| mvo | it seems like 855 give problem with video playback under compiz, do we know anything about this? or do we have hardware to confirm this? | 21:03 |
| seb128 | mvo: my old laptop has an intel 855 card I think, I can try things tomorrow if you want, what is the issue? | 21:10 |
| bryyce | mvo, I've not been aware of further issues with 855, but jesse said there's probably more. | 21:15 |
| mvo | someone reported that video playback is broken with compiz for them, and I only have a 830 system for testing | 21:17 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, that would be cool, just check if totem video playback works | 21:18 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok, I will do that tomorrow after upgrading | 21:32 |
| mvo | thanks | 21:47 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: too late.. | 22:05 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: ah ok | 22:06 |
| tjaalton | mvo: bug 217867 is a dupe | 22:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 217867 in xorg-server "package xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217867 | 22:07 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: ah, so there's hope for TTM after all :) | 22:08 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: keithp didn't elaborate but his tone had a disgruntled aspect to it that made me think there's a story behind it | 22:09 |
| tjaalton | it would also mean that .27 is a more probable target for TTM | 22:11 |
| * bryyce nods | 22:11 | |
| ubotu | New bug: #215465 in xscreensaver (main) "[fglrx amd64] queens crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 181121)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215465 | 22:11 |
| bryyce | keithp didn't commit to a particular kernel version | 22:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #214255 in xscreensaver (main) "[nvidia] glmatrix crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 110125)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214255 | 22:17 |
| ubotu | New bug: #218018 in xscreensaver (main) "[nvidia] The queens screensaver crashed in preview mode (dup-of: 110125)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218018 | 22:17 |
| tjaalton | I wonder if we could pull the latest stable drm to .26 when .27 is released | 22:17 |
| tjaalton | speculation.. | 22:17 |
| munckfish | Hi all | 22:31 |
| munckfish | I've just managed to upgrade my PS3 gutsy install to Hardy | 22:31 |
| munckfish | and I'm about to start trying to get the backtrace stuff | 22:31 |
| munckfish | for the crash I was experience | 22:31 |
| munckfish | I want to | 22:31 |
| munckfish | generate a pristine xorg.conf using the newly installed dexconf | 22:32 |
| munckfish | what do I have to do to ensure what's generated is exactly as would be generated by the live CD on boot? | 22:32 |
| munckfish | is it safe to just run dexconf? Or do I need to | 22:32 |
| tjaalton | munckfish: ok, just run 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' | 22:32 |
| munckfish | clean out the debconf db somehow? | 22:32 |
| tjaalton | dexconf should work too | 22:32 |
| tjaalton | there's not much to clean | 22:33 |
| munckfish | so just accepting the defaults in dpkg-reconfigure will do it? | 22:33 |
| munckfish | ok | 22:33 |
| tjaalton | should be fine | 22:33 |
| tjaalton | -phigh doesn't ask any questions IIRC | 22:33 |
| munckfish | ok thx | 22:33 |
| munckfish | btw, I can at least get X to run now using my gutsy xorg.conf | 22:34 |
| munckfish | and I didn't notice the invalid pointer problem yet | 22:34 |
| munckfish | but I'll see how it goes | 22:34 |
| tjaalton | ok | 22:34 |
| munckfish | I did have X spontaneously restart though | 22:34 |
| munckfish | only evidence I could find was in .xsession-errors | 22:34 |
| munckfish | I'll raise something in LP later | 22:35 |
| munckfish | tjaalton: does dexconf rely on there being at least a bare bones xorg.conf? | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | nope | 22:39 |
| munckfish | I just ran it, and it's failed | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | use -o | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | -o foo | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | mv foo /etc/X11/xorg.con | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | f | 22:40 |
| munckfish | xorg.conf no such file ....... | 22:40 |
| munckfish | then FATAL: Module battery not found. | 22:40 |
| tjaalton | dexconf -o foo works | 22:40 |
| tjaalton | at least here | 22:40 |
| ubotu | New bug: #219377 in xorg (main) "Can't install Ubuntu using the liveCD because the radeonhd driver is not on the cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219377 | 22:42 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: for r500/r600 what driver do we pick on the cd? fglrx? | 22:49 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: ati | 22:50 |
| tjaalton | fglrx is not on the cd, neither is nvidia* | 22:50 |
| bryyce | ok | 22:50 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: btw alex just gave me a bunch of patches he says we should really have for 6.8 (all breakages discovered right after the release) | 22:57 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: excellent.. | 22:58 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: although I'd prefer a new release if there were such issues.. | 22:59 |
| tjaalton | didn't ajax point out that "releases are cheap" :) | 22:59 |
| bryyce | yeah but the current git tree is full of a lot of feature work he says is really not stable enough for us yet | 23:00 |
| bryyce | so he's cherrypicked these patches for us. | 23:00 |
| bryyce | (I agree, a point release would have been nice) | 23:01 |
| tjaalton | yeah, point-releases are cheap.. | 23:01 |
| munckfish | Hi again guys, I've uploaded the backtrace now to LP 217647 | 23:06 |
| munckfish | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/217647 | 23:06 |
| munckfish | has anyone got a moment to help analyse it a little? | 23:07 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7445/ | 23:07 |
| munckfish | Sort of as I expected the invalid pointer is the 'idsdir' handle | 23:09 |
| munckfish | idsdir = (DIR *) 0x101f0000 | 23:09 |
| bryyce | munckfish: mmm | 23:10 |
| munckfish | so simple stuff out the way first the directory it's trying to access /usr/share/xserver-xorg/pci/ does exist | 23:12 |
| bryyce | good backtrace... looking at src | 23:14 |
| munckfish | ok cool | 23:14 |
| munckfish | would a strace help any? | 23:14 |
| munckfish | or ltrace | 23:14 |
| munckfish | ? | 23:14 |
| bryyce | hmm, probably not | 23:15 |
| bryyce | you could step through the function in gdb... that's probably what I'd do next | 23:15 |
| bryyce | set a break on chooseVideoDriver, then step through and see how the pointers are getting used | 23:16 |
| munckfish | can I do that without the source? | 23:16 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: a nice bunch of patches | 23:16 |
| munckfish | I mean just with the debug syms? | 23:17 |
| bryyce | munckfish: actually even that's not really necessary... seems like it's narrowed down sufficiently | 23:17 |
| munckfish | I'm guessing not | 23:17 |
| bryyce | munckfish: one sec | 23:17 |
| munckfish | bryce: nae problem | 23:17 |
| munckfish | wow, there's two of you! are you both the same person? | 23:18 |
| tjaalton | multibryce! | 23:19 |
| tjaalton | we need'em both ;) | 23:19 |
| munckfish | bry[y]?ce | 23:19 |
| munckfish | well, I guess two's more powerful that one! | 23:19 |
| munckfish | bryce cloning | 23:20 |
| bryyce | try this patch: http://bryceharrington.org/files/closedir.patch | 23:20 |
| bryyce | munckfish: yuup :-) | 23:20 |
| munckfish | k bryyce I'll rebuild and be back to report | 23:21 |
| bryyce | tjaalton: should we roll those into a package for testing? Or... it would be nice to tie the patches to specific bugs. I may spend some time tonight to try to link them to bug reports. | 23:23 |
| tjaalton | bryyce: both, yes | 23:23 |
| tjaalton | at least if it should get in before release, I doubt it will | 23:25 |
| bryyce | yeah not unless we could tie the patches to extremely bad bugs | 23:26 |
| tjaalton | right | 23:26 |
| bryyce | but shooting for sru's or 8.04.1 might be more realistic | 23:26 |
| tjaalton | night folks -> | 23:42 |
| bryyce | night | 23:47 |
| munckfish | so ... bryyce what's the real reason for your clone? | 23:57 |
| bryyce | munckfish: 'bryce' is my login at home, 'bryyce' is my laptop here at the X dev conference | 23:59 |
| munckfish | oh i c | 23:59 |
| munckfish | you're at the X conf cool | 23:59 |
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