Identifier "EN8800GT" [11:15] Driver "nvidia" [11:15] EndSection> [11:16] that's from my xorg.conf [11:16] hmm did you restart X ? [11:16] hang on [11:17] yay for restarting without me telling him he should modprobe the module too \o/ [11:20] no still no joy [11:20] did you see an nvidia logo when X started? [11:20] no [11:20] and did you restart your computer or only X? [11:21] tried both [11:22] it's saying I'm not using the NVIDIA X driver, capital letters, inmy xorg.conf file nvidia is in lower case, [11:22] hmm what output do you get if you enter `lsmod | grep nvidia` in a terminal? [11:23] agpgart 35016 1 nvidia [11:23] i2c_core 26112 2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2> [11:24] hmm [11:24] well sorry i dont know then, not i problem i ever had [11:24] you could try #ubuntu [11:24] ok [11:24] cheers [11:24] good luck homebrewcider [11:42] is anyone here able to perform xubuntu gutsy -> hardy upgrade tests? [11:42] and ideally dapper -> hardy [11:42] i386 and amd64 [11:43] those are listed on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com but look unlikely to get coverage [11:44] we have done extensive upgrade tests generally though with lots of packages installed, including the xfce stuff [11:45] so unless someone wants to do those tests specifically, I'm inclined to just hide the entries in the tracker [11:47] heya, cansomeone recommend a good bit torrent client to use with xubuntu, I can't find any one synaptic. [11:53] I believe transmission is installed by default in hardy [11:53] transmission is also "in synaptic" in gutsy [12:00] i have a problem, Xubuntu 7.10 [12:00] If i connect my mp3player I can't see it [12:00] tail -f /var/log/messages: Apr 18 14:00:06 pupsik kernel: [ 8320.074930] usb 3-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 [12:00] and thats all [12:01] Player is Apacer AudioSteno AS820 [12:02] odd [12:02] now it found [12:02] hmm [12:02] okay [12:02] thanks anyway :P [13:34] Can I somehow list the installed packages and the space used by them? I've installed xUbuntu, but I want to slim it down [13:44] does xubuntu benefit from ubuntu's LTS rating of a release? ie. will xubuntu 8.04 have the same support model as ubuntu 8.04? [13:45] LTS? [13:47] kennethr: no [13:48] kennethr: well, it benefits indirectly, as it is based on ubuntu [13:48] kennethr: but there is no commercial support for xubuntu, so obviously there is also no lts [13:48] TheSheep: ok, maybe I don't understand lts. [13:50] TheSheep: will software updates for xubuntu 8.04 be released for a longer period of time than 7.10? what about ubuntu 8.04 lts vs. 7.10? [13:51] Are there no FTP servers for Xubuntu? [13:51] Because I don't find ANY FTP servers when I search for ftp server in add/remove. Just apps for administering servers and FTP clients. [13:52] kennethr: xubuntu will use all the pathes released for ubuntu, they share a common base [13:52] !ftp [13:52] FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd [13:53] !ftpd [13:53] FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP [13:54] How can I easily set a particular APP to autoboot? [13:54] Preferably without the use of a command line [13:56] I can't find anyo of these (proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd), and ftpd is only available as a server manager [13:57] Helsu: they are not in synaptic? [13:57] They are not in add/remove applications, no [13:58] Helsu: add/remove applications contains just a few most poular desktop applications, use synaptic [14:01] Do you know which of these "proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd and wzdftpd" have a GUI? [14:05] Helsu: none, they are servers [14:06] right [14:06] there separate 'graphical frontends' for managing them [14:06] they are listed in that factoid [14:07] but i can configure them from a GUI? [14:07] yes, with those frontends [14:09] from windows too? [14:09] no [14:10] unless you use something like vnc [14:10] to run that gui app on the linux but display on windows [14:10] ok [14:10] do you know of an app that i can install from synaptic [14:10] just set up a password [14:11] then i can turn this machine off [14:11] put it in another room, boot it there [14:11] and have a remote desktop over lan using tightvnc? [14:11] !vnc [14:11] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [14:11] this howto should be helpful === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [14:13] ok [14:14] i set the server packages for install in synaptic [14:15] by the way how is xubuntu with oki? [14:15] good support? [14:15] oki? [14:16] ah, printers? [14:16] yeah [14:16] no idea, I guess it dpends on the model, there is a hardware compatibility list on the ubuntu wiki, you can also check the forums [14:16] ok [14:16] now i'll try to shut this desktop down [14:16] boot it [14:17] and try to connect with tightvnc from my laptop [14:17] without doing anything at the desktop [14:17] thanks for your help for now. [14:23] anybody got a en8800gt video card installed that could help me please? [14:24] ok, i couldn't connect. i entered my hostname (hjemmeserver) [14:24] just typing that in tightvnc worked yesterday with another app [14:24] !vnc [14:24] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [14:25] is is suppose to be auto-booted, right? [14:25] the vnc server [14:29] hi everyone, I have a question about xubuntu [14:29] Helsu: I think you need to enable it [14:29] !ask | nyn84 [14:29] nyn84: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [14:31] I have a usb mouse connected to my notebook and once in a while it just stops working, I wonder what kind of command I should use to check if theres something wrong with the drivers [14:31] It works with this app I got from add/remove, it's called KDE desktop sharing [14:31] nyn84: dmesg | tail will show you last kernel messges [14:31] it works brilliant [14:31] the only problem is it doesn't auto-boot [14:32] nyn84: lsusb will giv you the list of connected usb devices [14:32] Is there any way you can help me get it to automatically start? [14:32] lsusb tells me the mouse is recognized even when it doesn't work, and should I use that other command right now or just when it stopped working again? [14:33] Helsu: maybe try checking system->services [14:34] Helsu: and enabling it in there [14:35] i it isn't there [14:36] :/ [14:36] Helsu: what are you doing to start it? [14:37] I go to applications/network [14:38] alternatively i can enable the other server thing i instaleld from the wiki [14:38] i've only done the thing under SSH, but i don't care about the encryption [14:38] How can I alternatively enable the server? Not the KDE thing [14:39] it's not listed in services either? [14:40] no [14:41] anymore thoughts on the usb thing? [14:41] Helsu: I'm sorry, I never played with this, the wiki and forums may have some answers [14:42] nyn84: anything I can think of is to look for suspicious messages in dmesg [14:42] yeah, I guess I'll have to wait then ^^ [14:44] I've got another one though: I managed to create a key shortcut for the windows key, however I have two press it twice to execute the assigned action, how do I change that, so that pressin once will do the same thing? [14:47] I usually worked around that by editing the .config/xfce4/shortcuts/*.xml file directly [14:50] I cannot find that folder [14:50] all files starting with a period are hidden [14:51] enable displaying of hidden files in Thunar by pressing ctrl+h or selecting it from menu [14:52] did that but it still doesn't show [14:56] where is the .config directory located? in / ? [14:56] nyn84: in your home directory [14:57] yeah when you know where to look you find things XD [14:58] okay, I've got the file now and it says basically the same thing the GUI keyboard settings [14:59] [14:59] nyn84: yes, but now you can edit the shortcut to read "Super" instead of "Super+Super_L" [15:00] [15:00] nyn84: the Super keys are weird because they can be used both as "shift" key and alone [15:00] yes [15:00] that did not help [15:01] now pressing the key does nothing [15:01] :/ [15:02] what if you put Super_L in there? [15:03] no [15:03] still have to press twice [15:03] or again ^^ [15:03] ha [15:03] wait [15:03] it did work ^^ [15:04] thank you very much [15:04] :) [15:06] btw I thing it has a nice subtext to it to have the windows key open a terminal XD [15:06] *think [15:07] sheep [15:07] do you know how i can make the thing you linked to me autoboot then? [15:07] or be enabled? [15:07] Helsu: the vlc? [15:08] Helsu: sorry, vnc? [15:09] yes [15:09] Helsu: I'm sorry, maybe someone else here, you could also ask in #ubuntu, it's a general thing I think [15:09] ok [15:10] but from my experience my question will drown in there [15:10] yeah, it's very busy [15:10] you could also post a question on forum [15:13] TheSheep: are you in the mood for another one? [15:13] nyn84: shoot [15:13] btw, I'm not the only user here, you know [15:13] yeah but you're the only one who's talking ^ [15:25] sorry, my connection broke [15:26] TheSheep: are you still there? [15:26] yes [15:27] did you say anything after I described the problem? [15:29] err hi. how do i run a terminal from a terminal [15:30] xfce4-terminal [15:30] thx [15:30] nyn85: last thing you said was "16:13 < nyn84> yeah but you're the only one who's talking ^ [15:30] oh so the connection was already gone then [15:31] I've been trying to install this black theme: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/My+OLD+themes?content=79038 ; but I did not do it right apparently, it does show up in the user interface settings, but blue not black and it does not show up in the window manager [15:32] the file contains a lot of archives and I'm not sure whihch to put where [15:33] I guess with the blue thing that I put the wrong file into it, since there's also a blue theme in th package [15:34] but why wouldn't it appear in the window manager as well? [15:35] nyn85: I guess you need to unpack the NovumOs-gtk2 archive to your .themes [15:35] nyn85: the window manager theme is for metacity, so it won't work with xfce [15:36] nyn85: but the gtk theme and wallpapers will [15:36] does that mean the windows will keep looking as they are now? [15:36] nyn85: the gdm theme can be installed by dragging-and-dropping the archive into the login window settings program [15:37] let's go step by step: I unpacked the Novum-file, it contains 4 more archives [15:38] do all of these need to be unpacked in the .themes folder? [15:39] no, just the -gtk2 one [15:39] yes, the window borders won't change [15:41] ok I unpacked that file into the .themes [15:41] where do the other ones go? [15:41] it should now appear in the user interface settings [15:42] yes it does [15:42] for the gdm theme, open the settings->login window settings, and dragn-and-drop the archive into the theme list [15:42] the third one, for metacity, is useless for xfce [15:43] thats too bad [15:44] what about the 4th? [15:44] I only see 3 [15:45] -gdm, -gtk2 and -rounded [15:45] wait a sec, I'll make a list [15:46] logo.png NovumOS-GDM.tar.gz NovumOS-Rounded.tar.gz Walls [15:46] NovumOS.cgwdtheme NovumOS-gtk2.tar.gz NovumOS-Splash.png [15:46] see the cgwdtheme ? [15:47] ah, no idea what that is :) [15:47] XD [15:47] splash won't work for xfce either [15:47] no, wait, you can set it as image [15:47] in one of the splash engines in splash settings [15:48] splash means splash screen in this case? [15:48] yes, xubuntu has it normally disabled [15:49] yeah I don't need that anyway [15:49] can someone please help me get this en8800gt card working in linux please [15:49] homebrewcider: you could try with the binary drivers from nvidia site [15:49] !nvidia [15:49] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [15:50] its weird though; I got this theme from the xfce-look page, so why would there be a theme thats no use under xfce? [15:50] doesn't seem to want to work [15:50] I mean the picture sure is pretty XD [15:50] did the binary thing [15:50] nyn85: well, part of it works, I guess he uploaded it to both xfce-look and gnome-look [15:51] yeah but it does look quite stupid right now ^^ [15:51] but anyway, no I know where everything goes [15:52] one last thing though: if there were an archive that would change the theme for the windows as well, what would it be named? [15:52] (just to make sure the next theme I download contains everything I need) [15:53] nyn85: I guess -xfwm4 [15:53] nyn85: it would contain the 'themerc' file [15:53] and some pictures [15:54] well then many thanks again, you've been extremely helpful [15:55] it's late here, I'll work on this tomorow................................... [16:20] this step dont work on my xubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7.10_using_SCIM#head-0401ff0f4ac4c61dc1e3971fc2a1d333e35ed708 [16:21] there is no such file as 74custom-scim_startup [18:35] Does seahorse-agent not ask you guys for ssh passphrases either or is it just me? [18:38] soren: it might ask for one when it needs to get the password for your wifi, for example [20:14] Hi [20:15] Will an upgrade from Dapper to Hardy be possible? [20:15] And do I use update-manager in order to do so? [20:15] grothesk: without format and reinstall, not likely. [20:15] I couldn't get to feisty from dapper [20:15] Oh. [20:16] Are the differences bigger in xubuntu than in ubuntu or kubuntu? [20:16] Becaus these two support jumping from Dapper to Hardy [20:20] jumping from dapper to hardy will be made possible -- they are both lts versions [20:22] Hello. Is there some dropped support of old hardware in Hardy? [20:31] Hm.... Is TheSheep right or is The-Kernel right? :-) [20:31] instead of synaptic'ing myself into an early grave, wouldn't it be easier for me to just download a cp of gubuntu, kubuntu and any other ubuntu? [20:36] grothesk: TheSheep is right [20:38] it started so simply, i just wanted to compile mc, and one thing led to another and synaptic advised that i install/upgrade 129 megs of stuff. [20:40] initwit: why didn't you install mc from the repo? [20:40] i did, at first. but i like to turn off the mouse in gpm [20:41] so i needed to run ./configure [20:44] but i do want to install a bunch of gnome stuff, so maybe i can just dl gubuntu [20:45] TheSheep: this is my slackware fs. when i am 'freerise' i am running xubuntu [20:49] Will an upgrade from dapper to hardy be done by the official updatetool? (If there is any in xubuntu) [20:52] grothesk: most likely [21:46] hi., how i can see my networks machines in xubuntu ? [21:59] hhlp: what kind of network? [22:00] TheSheep, i want to see al my machine in the network one machine with xubuntu and another with winxp i install samba and nfs but i cant find how to see the xp machine in ubuntu [22:02] hhlp: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-browsing-samba-shares-with.html [22:04] thx TheSheep [22:25] Hi room, I just installed xubuntu and am trying to connect to my router (wireless card). I can connect to non secured networks fine, but not mine (WPA). I'm using Wicd to try and connect, but it hangs on "obtaining ip address" [22:26] My other computer can connect fine through wireless. I would appreciate any help. [22:28] !wifi [22:28] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [22:43] printf("Hello world!"); [22:43] :D [22:44] r u alive people? [22:44] amine: no [22:44] lol a zombie is talking to me :D [22:44] amine: you probably want to go to #c or something :) [22:44] sorry it was a bad joke [22:44] lol [22:45] so i've got a small stupid question [22:45] hope u can help [22:45] i have a small stupid answer [22:45] really? [22:45] amine: yes, I already answered [22:45] hey im on ppc and im not able to change resolution [22:46] i don't have system sounds in my xubuntu [22:46] :( [22:46] amine: xubuntu doesn't do system sounds [22:46] amine: hardy beta? [22:46] but :s [22:46] i've just some bips [22:46] nn gutsy gibbon [22:52] heya [23:03] so... === danielm_ is now known as danielm === aanderse_ is now known as aanderse [23:53] hello just wondering if totem is going to be installed by default in xubuntu hardy === danielm is now known as danielm_ === danielm_ is now known as danielm