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kaNNib^Ldo i have to wait for a week to get stable one?00:00
arkaniadwhich you should be able to apt-get update to00:00
arkaniadyes00:00
arkaniadbut you can still install beta00:00
kaNNib^Lafter installing beta00:00
arkaniadand get stable via aptitude when they release00:00
kaNNib^Li could get updates00:00
arkaniadyes00:00
kaNNib^Land it would become stable then00:00
kaNNib^L?00:00
arkaniadpretty much00:00
kaNNib^Lpretty much or a stable one?00:00
arkaniadi am not 100% sure it would be the actual "Stable," but you will have updated past the bugs00:01
arkaniadif any00:01
arkaniadand there are always more updates00:01
arkaniadbut, is your hardware compatible???00:02
kaNNib^Lyup always00:02
kaNNib^Li dont know00:02
arkaniadsweet00:02
arkaniadlol00:02
kaNNib^Lhow to check?00:02
arkaniadis it liveCD or alternate :(00:02
arkaniadliveCD - pop in, boot from cd, and enjoy without installation!00:02
kaNNib^Lwell i have downloaded .iso then burnt it and now using it on Cd00:02
kaNNib^Lyup liveCd00:02
arkaniadoh, so its in your CD drive00:02
arkaniadok00:02
kaNNib^Lyeah00:02
kaNNib^Lexaclty00:03
arkaniadwell then your hardware works i guess, eh?00:03
arkaniad:D00:03
kaNNib^Lhow to check?00:03
arkaniadwell, you are using ubuntu as we speak right?00:03
arkaniador kubuntu, w/e00:03
kaNNib^Lkubutu00:03
kaNNib^Li know a much about GNOME00:03
kaNNib^Lusing kubuntu first time00:04
arkaniadand your net, sound, display works??00:04
kaNNib^Lyup00:04
arkaniadwell, then it will all work00:04
kaNNib^Loll rite00:04
kaNNib^Lnow just tell me again00:05
kaNNib^Lthat i should wait for a week to get stable version00:05
kaNNib^Lor i can install beta version without any prob?00:05
arkaniadbrvb00:05
arkaniadlol00:05
kaNNib^Lplz man00:05
arkaniadok sorry00:05
arkaniadbeta would be fine,00:06
arkaniadIMHO,00:06
arkaniadjust email me if there are any kinks00:06
arkaniadarkaniad@gmail.com00:06
arkaniadoh and00:06
arkaniadgood choice picking Linux!00:06
arkaniadok, now is there anyone here that can answer my questions about upgrading????00:07
kaNNib^Lwhy gud choice?00:07
kaNNib^Lyes sure i can00:07
kaNNib^Lgo ahead and ask anything00:07
kaNNib^L:D00:07
arkaniadbecause, linux is a very stable/versatile system that is secure. and looks cool.00:07
arkaniadok,00:07
kaNNib^Lwell00:07
arkaniadanyone is free to ask this ques00:07
kaNNib^Lis there that sort of graphics programs available00:08
kaNNib^Llike adobe photoshop ?00:08
kaNNib^Lso i could work on graphics easily00:08
arkaniadbrb00:08
arkaniadsorry00:08
arkaniadagain00:08
arkaniadyes there is!!!00:08
arkaniadGIMP00:08
arkaniadGn Image Manipulation Tool00:09
kaNNib^Lok00:09
kaNNib^Lbabai00:09
kaNNib^Lhave fun and thanks00:09
arkaniadu goin?00:09
kaNNib^Lwhat is ur name?00:09
arkaniadTanner00:09
arkaniadbut i prefer Arkaniad00:09
kaNNib^Lyup it is 4 am here00:09
arkaniadoh and email me!00:09
arkaniadloo00:09
kaNNib^Loll rite i am yasir00:09
arkaniadits 6 pm here!00:09
kaNNib^Lnice meeint u dear00:09
arkaniadbye!00:09
kaNNib^Llol00:09
kaNNib^Lbabai00:09
arkaniadlol?00:09
kaNNib^Land thanks00:09
arkaniadbyeeaaaaa00:09
arkaniadkaNNib^L: oh and, if you have a good Graphix card, you can get COMPIZ!!!!!!!!!!!00:10
kaNNib^Lcompiz?00:10
kaNNib^Lwhat is it?00:10
kaNNib^Lnow tell me00:10
arkaniad3d desktop00:10
arkaniadeg. a cube that you can rotate00:10
arkaniadwith your desktop on all 4 sides, cept top and botom00:11
arkaniadxgl and beryl are same thing too00:11
kaNNib^Li c00:11
kaNNib^Lhow can i get it?00:11
arkaniadwell, baibai00:11
kaNNib^Lok babai00:11
arkaniadidk?00:11
kaNNib^Lafter installing i will mail u00:11
arkaniadkay00:11
arkaniadanyone here that i can ask something?00:12
arkaniadenyone?00:12
arkaniadah ill go to ubuntu#00:12
_ZeuZ_yeah!!00:18
_ZeuZ_I reduced the memory ussage of this HArdy, to 130mb ^^00:19
_ZeuZ_(using xchat, emesene, and Kaffeine00:19
_ZeuZ_oh, and COMPIZ!00:19
arkaniadhow?00:21
_ZeuZ_I got rid of all modules unneeded (from kernel and initramfs)00:22
_ZeuZ_then got rid of those pesky python pieces of code to ease my life00:22
arkaniadlol00:22
_ZeuZ_and replaced them with compiled apps (written in C++ and C)00:22
arkaniadi dont know how to do that but OK!00:22
_ZeuZ_then I removed the unneeded things from KDE00:23
_ZeuZ_then I quitted the services I did not need00:23
arkaniadsweet00:23
_ZeuZ_then I uninstalled some packages00:23
_ZeuZ_and got rid of the session manager...00:23
PeterFAI always get a segfault when I run apache2.00:24
PeterFAIn konsole, I type /etc/init.d/apache2 start and it segfaults.00:24
_ZeuZ_peterFA: That usually happens when the memory fragments into RAM and SWAP00:25
_ZeuZ_type free -m and show me the resuts...00:25
_ZeuZ_if not, try reinstalling it...00:25
PeterFA_ZeuZ_, wanna see it in pm?00:25
_ZeuZ_of course00:27
_ZeuZ_hitme00:27
jumpkickhow can I get /sbin/lrm-manager to run at start time like its supposed to?00:27
_ZeuZ_jumpkick: use sysv-rc-conf to check if it's set to be started on the desired runlevel (if you don't have it, then sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf )00:28
jumpkickk00:29
mr_marvin_hi all. how can i check power saving options in kubuntu?00:29
_ZeuZ_you mean, personalize them?00:30
mr_marvin_well, yes... i don't remeber changes i've mege in ubuntu, and i'm afraid my pc could shut down while i'm absent,00:31
_ZeuZ_if you're using Gnome (Ubuntu) I can't help you... but if you're using KDE, then go to your tray bar, and click the battery icon00:32
mr_marvin_i'm using KDE, but this is not a laptop00:32
_ZeuZ_then changing the values, won't elude the fact that from power failure/lack your desktop is going to shutdown/reboot00:33
mr_marvin_how do i change the values? where do i find the options? that's what i'm hunting fro...00:35
jumpkickcan some do an `ls /etc/rc2.d | grep restricted` and tell me what the start number is supposed to be for the linux-restricted-modules-common symlink?00:36
user1comand1 ; comand 2 ,        ; will run second command despite first one is completed succesfuly or not. or it will run 2 comands simultaneiously?00:36
jumpkickuser1: ; = do it after; && = do it after if the first command was true (succeeded)00:37
jumpkick|| = do it after if the first command was false (failed, exited with a non-zero exit code, etc)00:37
user1jumpkick thx00:39
user1jumpkick how to skip y/n required to type in some comands?00:39
jumpkickecho Y | command00:39
jumpkickapt-get -y install ....00:40
jumpkickdepends on the command00:40
user1jumpkick apt00:40
mr_marvin_so, is there a simple was to change the time of shutting down od hdd's, monitor, whole pc?00:42
jumpkickuser1: yeah, see above or apt-get --help...  its -y00:43
user1thx00:44
PeterFAI have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and dmesg says I need to get the firmware for it. I don't know exactly which firmware I need though. I've given several choices and one is deprecated.00:45
user1any POWERFUL firewall with many features?00:46
sfirePeterFA: I'm 90% those require ndswrapper drivers00:46
sfirendiswrapper00:47
PeterFAuser1, I like kmyfirewall.00:47
user1PeterFA ok..00:47
sfirePeterFA: do you have the windows driver CD for it?00:47
PeterFAsfire, no. The error message points to a web page with instruction that yoink it automagically.00:48
PeterFAI don't want to use the Windows driver.00:48
PeterFAHmm.00:48
sfiredon't have a choice00:48
sfireits madwifi or ndiswrapper (windows driver)00:48
sfirebroadcom isn't madwifi compatible00:49
sfire(at least mine in this laptop isn't)00:49
PeterFAsfire, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-new00:49
sfirehonestly I haven't had a problem using the windows driver... that may work but its a whole bunch more complicated00:50
sfireup to you though00:51
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_ZeuZ_sfire: he-s allready using it, guided him through the process of instaling ONE PACKAGE00:55
_ZeuZ_xD00:55
_ZeuZ_that;s what you need for b43/bcm43xx00:55
_ZeuZ_b43firmwarecutter (or something like that)00:55
_ZeuZ_that takes care of downloading the firmware, and fetching it00:55
RickKnightPeterFA: Just a thought, but where is the firmware installed?00:55
_ZeuZ_/lib/firmware00:56
nonewmsgsi have a stupid question00:56
RickKnightPeterFA: It should be in /lib/firmware/2.6.20-16-generic for Feisty, /lib/firmware/2.6.22-14-generic for Gutsy.00:56
PeterFARickKnight, I just did00:56
_ZeuZ_RickKnight, that depends on the kernel00:57
nonewmsgsif i boot from my one sata drive grub menu doesn't come and all i get is a curser and it freezes, but if i start the same disk in supergrub with mbr it starts fine, what is wrong00:57
_ZeuZ_but the firmwares are all located under /lib/firmware00:57
_ZeuZ_that grub is not installed onto MBR, and that supergrub crashes it00:57
nonewmsgsbut the option i select is "boot mbr" not start HURD00:59
_ZeuZ_seems like you did not though00:59
nonewmsgsmaybe it is confused that the linux partition is the 3rd partition01:00
_ZeuZ_check the /boot/grub/menu.lst01:00
_ZeuZ_or run sudo update-grub01:00
nonewmsgsmy partitions all need tweaked but for now i think i am going to reinstall gutsy (i can't get online with hardy)01:01
_ZeuZ_xD01:01
_ZeuZ_what seems to be the problem with it?01:01
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nonewmsgshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4742786#post474278601:02
nonewmsgsi have asked numerous times in ubuntu+1 but i think im invisable there01:02
user1any POWERFUL and advanced firewall with many features installable on linux?01:02
_ZeuZ_iptables ?01:02
nonewmsgsoops wrong link01:02
nonewmsgshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735936&highlight=hardy+wired01:03
nonewmsgsthat's the real one01:03
nonewmsgsthe other one was something i found while googling it01:03
_ZeuZ_iptables + iproute2 + tcng + arpwatch01:03
_ZeuZ_I'll get back to you tomorrow, now I gotta go...01:03
nonewmsgsdammit01:03
nonewmsgsthat's till not it01:03
nonewmsgshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753564&highlight=hardy+wired01:04
nonewmsgsthat one is it -- really01:04
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ubuntuHi !01:10
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nonewmsgsDr_willis: i hate to repeat myself but you have helped me several times before, and i wanted to ask if you had any ideas about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753564&highlight=hardy+wired (right now i am downloading the altcd for gutsy)01:11
* Dr_willis just woke up. :) Havent even drank my OJ yet. 01:12
unix_infidellol...01:13
unix_infidelit's 7pm :-P01:13
nonewmsgs813pm01:13
Dr_willisnonewmsgs,  basic testing i always do is. #1. can you ping other machines by ip. If so - networking is working. Its a dns setting issue.01:13
nonewmsgsno pinging01:13
nonewmsgsbut +1 doesnt have much love01:14
Dr_willisif ping isent even working. either the network card modules are not getting loaded. or theres a bug. or its very miss configured01:14
nonewmsgsi'm thinking it's a bug01:14
Dr_willisor the gateway is not set right. or somthing is messed with dhcp01:15
Dr_willisThis is when it pays to learn how to manyually configure the network from the terminal01:15
Dr_willistest the live  cd - see if it works with it.. see if it works with other live cd and disrtos also id a good test.01:16
Dr_willisI never do a 'upgrade' :) i always do clean installs. could be some odd upgrade quirk01:16
* Mr_Pan is away: 01:17
nonewmsgsit was a full upgrade.  livecds of all distros are freaking out over my videocard....i have never seen anything like it01:17
Dr_willisright now it LOOKS like from that thread info. that your dhcp server is not working.01:17
nonewmsgsi have 6 other computers wired and wireless from that router and they all work fine01:18
nonewmsgsincluding this one that's 3 feet away01:18
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Dr_willisI would check the obvious like the cables and perhaps reset the router.01:18
nonewmsgsbut windows does work on it01:18
nonewmsgsand is online01:18
Dr_willisTime to summarize all these tests in the forum thread then. :)01:19
Dr_willisget the ip info from when its using windows. and set it up to use a static ip. might help.01:19
Dr_willisip#, dns server, gateway. - Its possible i guess that some how its gettting a ip thats allready in use.01:19
nonewmsgsthanks you Dr_willis01:21
Dr_willisI would be curious if you booted into a different desktop thus not starting all the kde networking config tools. If it would work01:21
Dr_willisBut that manual launching of the dhcp client - and ot not gettting a response.. seems.. odd01:21
Jimmy1Hey guys just wondering if someone could help me with my printer ?01:26
batmanwhats the prob?01:26
nonewmsgsyes Dr_willis i even tried using the other lan port01:26
Jimmy1when i try to print the there is a blank page01:27
Dr_willisYou have 2 network cards in that box eh?01:27
Jimmy1is there ink YES01:27
Jimmy1it works ok with windows but not at all with Kubuntu01:27
batmanmake, model?01:28
Jimmy1Hp 355001:28
Jimmy1the computer detects it but it just wont print with kubuntu01:29
Jimmy1i had the same problem with ubuntu01:29
Jimmy1i used that hplip program to set it up but still no lucj01:29
Jimmy1luck01:30
Jimmy1i tried changing the settings to generic brand also01:30
Dr_willisJimmy1,  and how is it connected?01:32
Jimmy1via usb01:32
batmanso it actually spits out a blank page?01:32
Dr_willisI notived somthing odd with my hp printer under hardy. if i boot it loses the printer untill i unplug/plug it back in...01:33
Dr_williswonder if thats been fixed yet.01:33
Jimmy1yeh01:33
Jimmy1it prints very lightly, you cant read it01:34
Jimmy1its very surprising cause in windows it works fine :/01:34
Dr_willisWait.. it 'does print' however?01:34
Dr_willisjust dosent print proplery?01:34
RogueJediXJimmy1: Maybe you have something called "economics mode" turned on01:34
Jimmy1hmm01:34
Jimmy1ill have  a look01:34
robf_what is the volume controller for kde01:36
robf_cos i don't seem to have it down on my lil task bar like i used to,  crashed maybe?01:36
Jucatokmix01:37
robf_hmm thanks01:38
robf_wondered why it wasn't down there,01:38
Dr_willisit may have a panel applet you an add.. or it may auto add when its ran01:38
Jimmy1ummm where in hplip do i find economics mode ?01:44
Dr_willisI just  click on my printer in the printer settings tools and it has pulldowns for the moded and so forth.01:45
Dr_willisbut mine is an OLD laserjet 5l01:45
Dr_willisi always have to rember to set mine to 600dpi instead of the default 300dpi01:45
rootlinuxusranybody around that knows a lot about wireless?01:48
Jimmy1sorry i cant find it01:48
Dr_willisit dosent matter if they know a lot.. if they dont know aboyut your specific situation. :)01:51
Dr_willis!wireless01:51
rootlinuxusrnothing's showing up, and that's true.01:52
rootlinuxusrWPA-PSK router, i have it showing the connection, even attempts to connect, never gets an IP01:52
leroyhey nubie here, where am i???01:52
rootlinuxusr!kubuntu01:52
leroylol no, thats my new os01:52
Jimmy1lol01:53
Jimmy1its fun isnt it01:53
rootlinuxusrjenkinsssssssssssssssssssssssss01:53
rootlinuxusrsorry, had to.01:53
Jimmy1nothing but trouble after trouble with linux01:53
Jimmy1but i still like it :)01:53
leroyso i'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with linux01:53
rootlinuxusrsudo apt-get install geek linux modability01:54
Dr_willisleroy,  its flexiable.01:54
Jimmy1go on youtube01:54
leroyand....01:54
leroyso is xp01:54
leroylol01:54
Dr_willisxp just got its live 'extended' for a nother year or by MS.01:55
Dr_willisxp was just about to get killed off.01:55
rootlinuxusras the phrase goes, use mac for photos/videos/music, use palmpilot for portability, use linux for servers/flexibility, and use Windows for Solitaire.01:55
leroyutube....  i don't want some geek to pissme off, i want a conversation01:55
leroylmao01:55
PhilRodleroy: well, maybe linux is for you, maybe it's not - if any of Free Software, Open Source, flexibility, access to the underlying OS, scriptability, community or tinkering appeal to you, then you'll love it01:56
Dr_willisTechnically this channel is for Kubuntu Support. - If you want a conversation about linux. Try ##linux, or #ubuntu-offtopic01:56
PeterFACan I get PHP support in lighttpd?01:56
Dr_willisBut its a slow night. :)01:56
leroysorry01:56
leroyi'm gonna leave u to it01:56
leroythanx guys01:56
leroyn gals01:56
Jimmy1YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES MY PRINTER WORKS02:00
* Jimmy1 dances02:00
Jimmy1YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY02:00
rootlinuxusrheh nice.02:00
Jucatoer.. ok.. but easy on the Caps lock02:00
Jucato:)02:00
Jimmy1Thanks Rouge02:00
Jimmy1this linux thing is getting better and better02:00
rootlinuxusrCAPS LOCK, CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.02:00
Jimmy1by next week every1 will be deleting vista/xp and using Ubuntu02:01
Jucatorootlinuxusr: ahem02:01
rootlinuxusr=]02:02
adudedoes anybody know of a program to make simple 2d animations?02:02
PeterFAI love caps-lock.02:02
PeterFAadude, you can use the GIMP02:02
adudeokay if forgot about that.02:03
adudei will use that02:03
Jimmy1ok who can help me with compiz02:04
rootlinuxusrgo to #compiz-fusion02:04
rootlinuxusr=]02:04
Jimmy1okie02:04
PeterFAOn a fresh installation of apache2, I always get segfault starting.02:05
PeterFAThe log files have nothing in them.02:06
edjutrying to upgrade to 8.04 RC.  altho never comfortable with adept, thought I'd follow dir's at kubuntu's site.  but, adept does not have the "version upgrade" option.  did apt-get dist-upgrade, but got nada.  how to do it from the cl?02:07
Jucatoedju: #ubuntu+1 please02:07
rootlinuxusrI can see my WPA-PSK router, but when I try to connect in Kubuntu it doesn't give me an IP...any help? it works fine in shitsa.02:08
batmanadude, you might want to check out ktoon02:10
adudewill do02:10
adudethanks02:10
PhilRodrootlinuxusr: are you using knetworkmanager?02:13
rootlinuxusris there a reason i shouldn't be?02:14
PhilRodofficially, probably not, but I didn't have any luck connecting to my WPA network with knetworkmanager02:15
PhilRodI just set it up in /etc/network/interfaces in the end02:15
rootlinuxusrhow do i do that?02:16
PhilRodhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7461/02:20
PhilRodrootlinuxusr: that's the stanza I use. With that, the system brings eth1 up at boot and connects it to the network02:21
rootlinuxusrwext?02:21
nonewmsgswhy does ktorrent tell me no incoming conections (possibly firewalled) despite having a conection about ~100kbps down and 20kbps up02:22
rootlinuxusranyway to add encryption to the PSK part?02:24
KetrelWhat are all the places I have to go to say don't blank my screen after X ammount of time? I'm out of places I know of to change it. (I have Compiz installed if that matters at all)02:25
PhilRodrootlinuxusr: not sure about the wext part - might not be necessary. Take a look at 'man interfaces' I guess02:26
PhilRodrootlinuxusr: nor do I know about encryption - the man page might be able to help02:26
rootlinuxusrbrb02:28
yuanchi??02:29
Jimmy1hi02:33
Jimmy1wb02:34
rootlinuxusrsanke02:34
rootlinuxusrPhilRod I love you...02:36
PhilRodI may have to break your heart then...02:36
rootlinuxusrxDD02:37
rootlinuxusrso might my fiancee.02:37
Jucatolol02:37
Jucatoat least PhilRod can juggle :)02:37
rootlinuxusrxD02:37
PhilRodargh! I should never have revealed so much in my dot.kde.org picture!02:38
PhilRodmy intimate secrets up there for all the world to see!02:38
rootlinuxusrxDD02:38
Jucatoonly if they read behindkde.org02:39
Jucatooops :)02:39
PhilRodhehe02:39
contrast83Greets, everyone...02:43
contrast83I just installed Hardy and it seems my wireless card isn't recognized at all, although lsmod shows the module for it (airo) is loaded. Can someone help me out?02:43
Daisuke_Laptophey PhilRod, got your PhD yet?02:45
PhilRodworking on it (literally, right now). But two years left02:45
mfehello02:45
Daisuke_Laptopcool, good luck :)02:45
yuanchihello02:47
PhilRodthanks, I'm going to need it :-)02:47
PhilRodhi yuanchi02:47
yuanchii am from china02:47
mfewas wondering if gnash is a viable flash alternative yet?02:48
yuanchi我看不懂你们的话。。。。。。02:48
yuanchi郁闷阿02:48
robf_I agree02:49
BunnyRevolution!dvd02:49
BunnyRevolution!mp302:49
Jucatobot is dead BunnyRevolution02:50
BunnyRevolutionbot dead?02:50
BunnyRevolutionbleh02:50
robf_O.o wtf02:50
robf_freenod or efnet02:50
Jucatohm. ok02:51
mfei've heard of splitting hares...but never revolving bunnies?02:51
Jucato!test02:51
ubot5Failed.02:51
Jucatothere...02:51
Jucatonow be kind to the substitute :)02:51
Jucatomfe: I think it's more like bunnies revolting02:52
Daisuke_Laptopyuanchi: #ubuntu-cn02:52
Daisuke_LaptopJucato: bunnies aren't revolting!  they don't even have thumbs, how would they hold a gun anyway?02:52
Jucatocouldn't figure out if it were cn or jp :)02:52
Daisuke_Laptopno kana02:52
Daisuke_Laptopgotta be cn02:52
Jucatodude! bunnies have deadly (and lucky) feet!02:53
Jucatoanyway offtopic :)02:53
* Jucato sensors self02:53
robf_censor ....02:53
Jucatoer.. right..02:53
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mr_marvinhello. is sudo used in kubuntu also to start gui apps?03:12
Jucato!kdesu | mr_marvin03:12
Daisuke_Laptopnever03:12
ubot5mr_marvin: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)03:12
powertool08does anyone here use the aim client pork?03:13
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Ketrelubot5, I read http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo it said that for example kate would not run with "sudo kate" but O03:17
ubot5Ketrel: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:17
mr_marvinthanks, that helped a lot, i always used sudo... but i have another problem03:17
KetrelXD03:17
KetrelJucato, when I tried sudo kate, it worked03:17
Ketrel(and I had done it before reading that)03:17
BluesKajuse kdesudo for gui apps ...sudo is till ok in the cli in my experience03:17
Jucatoit may or may not work. but it will eventually mess up X permissions03:17
BluesKajstill03:17
mr_marvinsudo xhost +local:myusername reports "xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"03:17
Jucatomr_marvin: I don't think you need sudo for that03:18
KetrelIs there a reason to use kdesudo over kdesu?03:18
mr_marvini tried the above because "kdesu kpowersave" is also "refused by server"03:18
JucatoKetrel: kdesudo is an improved version of kdesu that properly behaves like sudo (kdesu originally uses just su, but was patched to also use sudo optionally)03:19
Ketrelah, so I should use kdesudo03:19
JucatoKetrel: I'd suggest using "kdesu", because if kdesudo is installed, it just symlinks to kdesu...03:19
Ketrelor that XD03:19
KetrelJucato, I ust checked and I have that in refersed03:20
Ketrelkdesu links to kdesudo03:20
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JucatoKetrel: I always get the "links to" wrong03:20
nonewmsgsmy one hard drive isnt conecting http://pastebin.com/d91d30e003:20
Jucatoeither way.. you know what I mean :P03:20
Ketrelah03:20
Ketrelwhich is the one that'll be used the most in the future03:21
Ketrelas I don't have a habbit yet, I want to make the one that'll be most usefull03:21
mr_marvinif i set my pc to shut down/hibernate for xx hours, where would that config file be?03:21
* Jucato personally suggests "kdesu", given that there might be some situations were kdesudo might have gotten uninstalled03:21
Jucato(and kdesu is "cross-distro".. only Kubuntu has kdesudo... for now)03:22
Jimmy1ok so here is my problem ! i went to compiz ppl to get it working right and they told me to do something ! anyway i had to reboot the system, when i did that it wouldnt let me go on the wireless but i could open Konversation THEN i booted again and wireless WOULD work but i couldnt open konversation ! this all came about when i wanted compiz to work but the little icons that close the window/minimise it dissapeared so now im runnig on03:23
Jimmy1live cd cause this is the only way i can get on the wireless and konversation03:23
KetrelJimmy03:23
Ketrelif that happens and you can still get ao a terminal03:23
Ketreltry running "kwin --replace" without the quotes03:23
KetrelWhat I did is I bound that command to a key combination that way even if I couldn't get to a terminal I could run it03:24
Ketrelit's usefull for when compiz or emerald crash.03:24
Jimmy1ok03:25
Jimmy1so if i boot now will the it all work again ?03:25
Ketrelit should03:25
Jimmy1ok brb03:25
Ketrelwait03:25
Jimmy1?03:25
Ketrelthe first thing you should do is get a way available to you to run that command03:25
Jimmy1i dont understand  !03:26
KetrelIs compiz starting automatically or are you starting it using "compiz --replace"?03:26
Jimmy1compiz ppl told me to type that before and it all fed up03:27
KetrelWell if it starts with your computer and you want to turn it off, first thing you should do is run the command "kwin --replace"03:28
Jimmy1yeh i did that03:28
KetrelThat should basically turn off compiz. Did that work right?03:28
Jimmy1im in live cd so i dunno till i boot03:28
Jimmy1reboot03:28
Jucato(you're supposed to do that when you're already in your installed (not live cd) system)03:29
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Jimmy1i cant do it cause as i said before when im in installed mode the computer a) wireless works but no konversation OR b) knversation works but no wireless. thats why im on live cd so i can talk to you guys to find out what happened03:31
HeliosHello...03:31
HeliosI want to use a web development toolkit in linux...03:31
Heliosjust like there is Dreamweaver for microsoft... are there any toolkit for Linux?03:32
KetrelI'm not sure if it's current, but I think there's NVU for linux.03:32
Jimmy1ok rebooting ill try on installed mode03:32
Daisuke-Laptopdreamweaker isn't a toolkit03:33
Daisuke-LaptopKompozer is a more recent Nvu03:33
Helioswell i need something like dreamweaver for my linux... :)03:33
Daisuke-Laptopdreamweaver, that is*03:33
Daisuke-LaptopHelios: kompozer may fit the bill03:33
Daisuke-Laptoppersonally, i recommend vi03:33
Heliosu mean vi in konsole?03:34
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HeliosWhere can i get a tutorial about how to use vi?03:37
flaccidHelios: google03:40
Jucatohttp://www.vi-improved.org/tutorial.php ? google?03:40
Heliosok thanks03:40
andrew_In Kate, how can I make it not put a character when I put a tab?03:40
Jucatoa character?03:41
HeliosHow can i enable syntax Highlighting in konsole?03:41
andrew_it looks like a comma03:41
Jucatoah, markers03:41
Jucatodon't worry, they aren't really printing characters... (they're not really there)03:41
flaccidandrew_:  Settings - configure kate - indentation03:41
Jucatoyeah you can turn them off :)03:41
flaccidinsert spaces instead of tabs03:42
Jucatoflaccid: er?03:42
andrew_which option, I don't see it?03:42
flaccidandrew_: are you coding?03:42
JucatoI think you want "Show tabulators" instead03:42
Jucatoandrew_: Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor -> Editing -> uncheck Show tabulators03:43
andrew_flaccid: sometimes, but not all the time03:43
flacciddepends what you want really03:43
andrew_Jucato: that was it, thanks :)03:43
JucatoHelios: syntax highlighting in vim?03:44
Heliosyeah03:44
Heliosi mean vi03:45
JucatoI think you need to have vim-full installed03:45
Jucatowell vi is linked to vim, we actualy use vim, not vi03:45
Heliosah ok03:45
ubuntuhi. I'm trying to install ubuntu off a livecd, using the "install" option.  The install goes fine, but when it's done I try to apply all the available package upgrades using adept.  That goes for a while and then crashes, saying there was a problem.  After that, I can't restart Adept, it tells me something's already using the package database.  If I try to reboot after that, it tells me "file not found" or something like that03:46
flaccid!adeptfix | ubuntu03:46
ubot5ubuntu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:46
flaccidthe file not found sounds like grub though03:47
ubuntui can reinstall just easily.. it doesn't take much time.  But this has happened twice already03:48
ubuntuwhy would apt be crashing?03:48
BluesKaj!update03:49
ubot5For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:49
monkeybritchesIs it Error 15?03:49
rickeycan someone tell me , what decoders i need to play amaork radio stations03:51
BluesKajAdept is trying to update already installed pkgs , that was a known bug with earlier Gutsy.03:51
ubuntuis there a fix/workaround, BluesKaj?03:51
BluesKajubuntu , yes it involves updating the sources.list IIRC03:52
ubuntui see.  i'll reboot and try that.  by the way.. when i finished upgrading packages, it told me there was an upgrade to kubuntu available, and asked if i wanted to upgrade.  do you know how I get to that option? wihtout installing all the packages first, that is03:54
rickeyhow do  or where do i look to findout what decoder i need to play internet radio in amaork03:54
BluesKajubuntu, that's part of the bug I just mentioned ..adept just keeps trying to upgrade til the source.list is fixed03:55
ubuntuby "updating the sources.list" do you mean via the adept GUI?03:56
ubuntu"refresh" or whatever?03:56
BluesKajrickey, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg03:56
BluesKajyou have to find a newer version of the source.list03:57
BluesKajdefault sources.list03:57
arthur06someone?03:58
BluesKajubuntu Open Adept Package Manager. On the menu of that screen,click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the Kubuntu Software tab, check all the boxes with an "X". The same goes for the Third Party software tab. Close, and then in the terminal do : "sudo apt-get update".These backport repository packages are not guaranteed to work 100%,so use them with caution.03:59
rickeythank you blue03:59
ubuntuokay, I will, thanks04:00
ubuntuwhat do you mean by "backport repository"?04:00
BluesKajthey reositoris which contain packaged apps that kubuntu isn't allowed to contain by law04:01
BluesKajrepositories04:01
ubuntuahh04:01
ubuntugotcha04:01
BluesKajcodecs etc04:02
BluesKajwell, mostly US law AFAIK :)04:02
BluesKajRIAA is dead , but just doesn't know it yet04:03
andrew_When I use knetworkmanager it will not autoconnect to any wifi with a WEP key, even if the key is stored.  Is there any way to change that behavior?04:07
BluesKaj!wifi04:08
ubot5Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:08
arthur06some BR04:08
arthur06some portuguese?04:09
BluesKaj!pt04:09
ubot5Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:09
arthur06#ubuntu-br04:11
arthur06#ubuntu-br some portuguese here?04:11
andrew_I'm looking for a setting in knetworkmanager, other than having to manually connect to networks using WEP, it works fine04:13
krawekarthur06: doble click sobre ==> #ubuntu-br04:13
arthur06thankss...now i understand04:15
BluesKajhmm, wonder if he can even read portugese04:15
arthur06I am inexperienced here in this IRC.04:16
BluesKajok04:16
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alanNew at IRC04:22
alanI installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a friends machine. After a day or so of running well, the machine decided to boot into BusyBox shell.04:23
alanI suspect there was something in (possibly) a kernel update that Adept pulled in and hosed the system. Googling everywhere.04:25
alanI don't suppose that theres anyone answering here with similar problems...04:26
alanIs there a way to see other people's response?04:29
alanThis is freaky, like talking to ghosts...04:30
BluesKajBusybox shell ?04:30
BluesKajanyway it' s late ...bedtime for me04:31
alanYes04:33
alanAlright, I'll try the forums.04:35
will01ey im having an issue with this kubuntu install i did, when i logged on this morning, it said it couldnt find my network card, so i figured, i would just pop in an old extra and find the issue, i try that and come to realize that that doesnt work either, the line is fine because it works on an old dell laptop running damnsmall04:35
zenohi i have an olympus d-595 camera, but it says its not connected propperly in kdigicam, any ideas?04:38
pyro17where did superkaramba put one of the things i downloaded though it04:41
pyro17through04:41
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* dthacker-work shakes the channel gently04:57
nonewmsgshow do you get a picture with a geforce 7900?04:58
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kevin__w!ghost05:04
ubot5On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>05:04
dthacker-worknonewmsgs: could you be more specific?  what problem is occuring?05:06
nonewmsgsi get to grub menu.  i see the loading screen then it goes black05:06
nonewmsgsi have changed drivers to even vesa05:07
dthacker-workWhat version are you trying to load?05:08
nonewmsgs7.105:08
nonewmsgsgutsy05:08
nonewmsgshardy wouldnt let me use my wired internet05:08
dthacker-workWhat CPU and Ram does this machine have?05:09
nonewmsgs2.13ghz coreduo 2gb05:09
nonewmsgsusually overclocked but not during initial setups05:10
dthacker-workIs coreduo  dual core?  What CPU manufacturer/05:10
dthacker-work?05:10
nonewmsgsintel yes05:11
* dthacker-work crosses memory off of his potential problems list05:11
dthacker-workHave you ever run Ubu/Kubuntu on this machine before?05:11
nonewmsgsyes with a 730005:11
dthacker-workwhat is a 7300?05:11
nonewmsgslow endgeforce05:12
nonewmsgsnvidia videocard05:12
dthacker-workah, ok.  So it's probaby not  memory, cpu, kernel, and you've changed video cards.  I think you are going to have to do some googling.05:12
nonewmsgsbut my favorite tihng so far is even in safe mode i get stuck in nano/pico trying to edit my xorg.conf05:13
nonewmsgsctrl key doesnt work there05:14
jacobi just installed kubuntu with a laptop of bcm4312, how can i make my wireless work?05:14
dthacker-work!bcm05:14
nonewmsgsand sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg gives an error (i have to take out -phigh)05:14
ubot5Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:14
dthacker-workI see others are struggling with this in the forums05:15
metbsdis it possible to run kubuntu from dvd rom?05:18
dthacker-workmetbsd: with a live CD?  Yes.05:19
metbsdcuz i no wanna make a seperate space for linux05:20
metbsdjust use linux desktop for bore05:20
kkathmanevening all05:31
dthacker-workhello kkathman05:32
madusersup05:32
kkathmanhowdy :)05:32
maduserso.....05:33
TeslaTonyWhere is the config file to enable/disable wifi cards?05:36
dustin_hey05:47
dustin_hello?05:48
maduserwhat?05:53
X9nLinuxLWhat web page maker might anybody here recommend to use?06:01
maduserthe mozilla one06:01
kkathmanso is it true that if you have both ubuntu and kubuntu on your system your chances of upgrading to the newest version (Hardy) will be nearly impossible ??06:02
Jucatokkathman: why would it be? anyway, you can confirm in #ubuntu+1 if you want06:02
kkathmanJucato:  I have heard disparate stories on this06:02
pquarleskkathman, who told you that? that's a very dubious claim imho06:03
kkathmanJucato:  that there is a "different" procedure for upgrading06:03
kkathmanpquarles:  see aboce06:03
kkathmanaboce06:03
kkathmanahhh06:03
kkathmanabove :)06:03
kkathmanyou cant use the dist-upgrade if you have BOTH ubuntu and kubuntu??06:04
Jucatoof course you can06:04
pquarleskkathman, each procedure would upgrade packages for GNOME and KDE06:04
kkathmansee I thought that would be the case06:04
kkathmanbut I was told that my chances of a successful upgrade would be nil06:04
Jucatothere are different methods of how to modify the sources.list and making sure you have the neceesary base packages for a smooth upgrade **using the GUI**06:04
kkathmanI personnally havent had a problem if I was on one or the other06:05
pquarleskkathman, again, I don't think whoever told you this knows what they are talking about06:05
Jucatousing the command line (editing sources.list yourself, using apt-get or aptitude) is the same all throughout06:05
pquarlesKubuntu and GNOME are not different OSes -- they are just different sets of packages06:05
Jucatoanyway, like I said, try confirming in #ubuntu+106:05
kkathmanJucato:  I have always just manually changed the sources.lst and did the update and dist-upgrade06:05
Jucatobut afaik, there are no such issues06:05
PendetaIs there a chat group for setting up and administering LANs?06:11
bragoo08for what os06:11
PendetaKubuntu and Win XP mixed.06:12
bragoo08not sure, but mine just worked on install. Win XP & Kubuntu06:12
bragoo08is yours wifi or wired?06:13
PendetaBoth06:13
bragoo08the only problem i have is kubuntu can see the other pc's on the network, but the others can't see kubuntu!06:15
PendetaJust learned there is a #samba node. I'm headed there.06:17
bragoo08c ya06:18
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robf_what pkgs will install all the screensavers06:21
robf_I've installed some,  but...they "don't work"06:21
robf_they're in the list,  but,  don't do anything06:21
romunovanyone good at cyrillic?06:24
robf_i can draw those backwards R pretty good06:25
romunovu is? that's so cool06:26
robf_thats all I can do06:26
robf_but its so easy,  it's like R,   only the other way around =)06:26
romunovi'm just trying to find out if the contact person on this page is male or female: http://herba.msu.ru/algae/collegues/torskaya.html06:26
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robf_I'm guessing female06:27
robf_though not sure if ukraine "alena"  could be male.. :p06:27
robf_doesn't say otherwise,  but the name is Alena06:28
robf_so in eastern europe,  the resume is based upon publications not experience? heh06:29
robf_oh never mind is not a resume ><06:29
robf_she is a female though I'm guessing06:30
romunovi thought sergey would know more06:30
romunovbut he parted... great06:30
robf_ah06:30
robf_I'd say an alena would be a female though06:31
Jucatohm.. #kubuntu-offtopic  please06:31
robf_Jucato: yeh since everyone here is talking it up06:31
robf_Jucato: and assisting with problems06:31
Jucatoit doesn't matter. it's still offtopic06:31
robf_*shrug*(06:31
romunovit can be distracting if you see a new message on the channel, and you quickly flip over and it's only two guys trying to guess a sex...06:32
robf_heh06:32
ZombieAnyone here decent at SQWL?06:34
ZombieAnyone here decent at SQL?06:34
* Jucato was wondering what SQWL was :)06:34
ZombieSorry, I'm a little tired.06:35
JucatoI think there's a #mysql channel if you need help...06:35
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* Jucato sucks at databases.. even just the MS Access kind :/06:36
pteague_laptopwhat's a good image viewer that'll do slideshows & works in konqueror?06:42
flaccidin konq?06:43
Jucatowhat kind of slideshows? and what do you mean by "works in konqueror?"06:43
JucatoInstalling kipi-plugins will give digikam and gwenview added tools to make an mpeg slideshow..06:44
pteague_laptopmaybe it was gwenview i was thinking of06:45
Greenerythere will only be one RC for Kubuntu?06:46
flaccidrc meaning?06:46
JucatoRelease Candidate06:47
flaccidor runtime control06:48
JucatoGreenery: there are 2. there's a KDE 4 Remix link at the bottom of the list of links06:48
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kaminixSince installing the new Kubuntu I have a really annoying really loud sound when using tabs in Yakuake (I assume any terminal). How do I remove this?06:57
_DiGiTaL_Which version of KDE comes with Ubuntu 8.04RC?06:57
Jucato!khardy | _DiGiTaL_06:58
ubot5Factoid khardy not found06:58
Jucatobah..06:58
flaccidkaminix: right click - settings - bell06:58
kaminixI think it's 3.5.9, latest.06:58
Jucato_DiGiTaL_: 1 CD for KDE 3.5.9, one for KDE 4.0.306:58
_DiGiTaL_ah okay thanx Jucato06:59
kaminixThanks flaccid :)06:59
Jucatosee https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/RC/Kubuntu for details06:59
_DiGiTaL_Think i will test out the kde406:59
flaccidnp06:59
_DiGiTaL_Cant resize my system drive using the Disk Management tool in Windows is it possible to still do a dual boot?07:02
Daisuke_Idohere's a dumb and obscure question...  does anyone know how to quickly rewrap a text file?07:06
Greeneryhmm, i tried to upgrade to RC, but the version upgrade isn't there when i entered the command on run07:08
BarbarelloHello!07:09
Barbarelloi've got a trouble. I had a WinXP and kubuntu 7.10 installed on one pc. Now, i need to reinstall XP, i'd remove it. But after XP setup system returns a message: "disk occured. Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart". I've done fixmbr and fixboot already. Nothing works, What should i do?07:09
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thyko!nvidia07:25
ubot5To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:25
KetrelHow can I configure default applications for things like music and video, the System Settings only has a few things and not those.07:29
JucatoKetrel: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations07:31
KetrelAh ok.07:31
KetrelWill that be changed in KDE4 do you know?07:32
Jucatoin KDE 4 (unless Kubuntu changed it) it  is in System Settings -> Advanced tab -> File Associations07:34
Ketrelah gotcha :)07:34
pascalhi together07:41
kaminixHow do I change the font priority order? There seems to be some priority thingie concerning fonts, like: 'if character is unavailable in this font, try this one'.07:45
pteague_laptopanybody know how to get xchat not to use such a large icon in the tray?07:46
felixHola08:17
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bbsingHI09:14
bbsing有说中文的吗?09:14
Daisuke_Ido!cn | bbsing09:14
ubot5bbsing: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:14
ubotubbsing: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:14
Jucato!test09:14
ubotuFailed.09:14
Jucatogood bots :)09:14
redmoonAhmm o.o... Can someone help me ? =x09:15
redmoonwith....09:15
redmoonThis frostwire problem09:15
redmoon=x09:15
Daisuke_Idoeasy, don't use frostwire (haven't we done this already?)09:15
redmoonBut I like frostwire... and i already know how to use it.... compared to.... the torrent thing09:15
redmoon>.>09:15
redmoon<.<09:16
Jucato-_-09:16
JoshOvkiredmoon: other torrent programs are easy enough to use09:16
redmoonWell im sorry that im computer illiterate09:17
redmoon>.>09:17
Daisuke_Idodon't apologize, learn :)09:17
JoshOvkilol09:17
redmoonNone the less i dont like using torent programs anyway.....09:17
Daisuke_Idowhy?09:17
redmoontorrent*09:17
stdinhave you said what your problem is yet?09:17
redmoonbecause... 1) I cant learn on my own... let alone if there is no one to teach me... 2) im completely stupid with new OS and 3) I just like frostwire....09:18
redmoon=/09:18
Daisuke_Ido1) why?  2) everyone is at first  3) fair enough.09:18
redmoonMoving on............09:19
redmoonMaybe ill figure it out........ later09:19
redmoonIs there a way ... to run exe programs.... if you have a ahm.... emurl.. or w/e?09:19
stdin!wine09:19
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.09:19
JoshOvkiwine will do some09:19
Daisuke_Idowhat are you looking to run?09:20
redmoonAhm... its a ahm... Game...09:20
redmoonits .exe though09:20
redmoonso yeah...09:20
Daisuke_Idookay, the ellipses are really REALLY annoying.09:20
redmoonSO ...... should i just use the wine thing?09:20
stdinyou don't have that much choice09:20
Daisuke_Idojust for funsies, what game?09:21
JoshOvkiredmoon: it might not work either. some things just dont work on wine09:21
stdinit's either wine or a vm09:21
redmoonOk.............. well this may sound stupid........ but its a dancing game...........why?09:21
Daisuke_Ido(we aren't backwards hicks, if it's a relatively popular game, we'll probably know what you're talking about)09:21
Daisuke_Ido"a dancing game"09:21
redmoonAudition.........................09:21
Daisuke_Idosomething similar to, say, DDR?09:22
redmoonprecisely09:22
Daisuke_Idocheck out stepmania09:22
redmoonwtf is that?09:22
Daisuke_Idogoogle it.09:22
redmoonfair enough...09:22
Daisuke_Idoit's a free, open source, ddr game09:22
redmoonId still prefer Audition.. i already have a lvl 35 character there....09:22
redmoonits annoying to have to play something new...09:22
* Daisuke_Ido shrugs09:22
redmoonYay for firewfox?09:23
redmoon=x09:23
redmoonholy cow that looks harder than audition09:24
Dagothhello09:24
* redmoon sighs..09:25
Dagothwhere am I?09:25
Jucatoin #kubuntu09:25
Dagothlol09:25
JoshOvkicyberspace09:25
stdinfrance?09:25
redmoonwell.... at least i have 2 OS... the other one is gay windows exp... This is my 2ndary OS... and until i can figure out how to use Linux.... then windows will be my main OS @_@09:25
Dagothbut what does it mean in fact?09:25
stdin!irc09:25
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:25
redmoonno wait.. actually i have 3 OS...09:25
redmoonOh snap... whats the diff between linux.. binary and source?09:26
stdinDagoth: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat09:26
JoshOvkiredmoon: if you are as computer illirate as you said you where, why do you have 3 OS's installed, why not just stick to one and get to know how to use it properly?09:26
Dagothok I think I begin to understand09:27
stdinredmoon: binary is compiled source, so you don't have to compile it09:27
Dagothso thaht's quite like a forum about kubuntu but live09:27
redmoonI am computer illiterate with Linux... i have 3 b/c i already learned how to sue windows and mac09:27
redmoon=.=09:27
Dagothisn't it?09:27
redmoonor vista i mean09:27
redmoonuse*09:27
stdinDagoth: yes, this channel is the Kubuntu community support channel, there are also may other channels on this network09:28
JoshOvkiredmoon: Learn how to use linux with a different torrent program, easy :)09:28
stdinand that, was a netsplit :)09:28
redmoon............ i cant...09:28
Dagothok I am looking for a channel where the topic would be about kde 4, do you one??09:28
JoshOvkiso you can learn how to use 3 O/S properly but cant learn how to use a simple torrent program?09:28
redmoonThe saying... 2 heads are better than one .... Is practically true... so if i have to figure this out on my own im dead >.>09:28
redmooni never said i learned all 3....09:28
redmooni only know vista nd windows09:29
redmoon>.>09:29
stdinDagoth: several, for Kubuntu KDE4 support use #kubuntu-kde4 or for general KDE4 support there's #kde09:29
* JoshOvki wont make a comment09:29
Dagothit's for general questions about how fast it is...09:29
redmoonwont make a comment... therefore you agree that im stupid with a new OS09:29
redmoonok? ok....09:30
stdinDagoth: depends on the time, most people in there are in europe, and it can be random as to how fast09:31
Dagothno I didn't mean it, it was just about asking few questions about haw fast the desktop manager kde 4 is in comparaison with kde 3.5 for example09:32
philipp__how do i get a javaplugin for konqueror09:36
stdin!java09:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:37
pitty86sziasztok09:39
pitty86segítséget kérnék09:39
pitty86új linux felhasználó vagyok09:39
pitty86és akadt egy kis gondom09:39
stdin!hu09:39
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál09:39
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ubotupitty86: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.09:39
bragoo08wtf is that jargon?09:39
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ubotubragoo08: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.09:40
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ubotupitty86: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál09:40
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redmoonOh wow im so stupid i cant even get this stepmania to download or install or w/e09:48
* redmoon drowns in self pitty and stupidity09:48
DOOM_NXgood morning :)09:48
redmoonla la la ....09:48
redmoongood.... waaay early morning... for me09:48
JoshOvkiDOOM_NX: well i will agree wih morning ;)09:49
DOOM_NX:)09:49
redmoonsha na na na.... sha na na na.... Hey hey..... Goodbye09:49
redmoondoo bop de doo shoo boo de doo09:49
redmoonI have an idea..........09:50
redmoonIm going to buy... the book Linux for dummies...09:50
redmoonthat might help me...09:50
redmoonPE@CE OUT ALL =x09:51
* JoshOvki kicks redmoon up the backside09:53
kaminixAnyone here who's good with CJK fonts? All my CJK looks horrible since upgrading to Hardy.09:54
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Wizard_hello10:40
arthur06hello10:40
Wizard_is kubuntu 8.04 rc available for powerpc?10:40
Wizard_i followed instructions given on kubuntu.org but adept does not show any 'version upgrade' button10:41
arthur06sorry...i dont understand about configurations of the linux10:42
Wizard_ah! got it, the mentioned wrong command line switch :)10:43
Wizard_arthur06: what aspect of linux configuration?10:43
arthur06ah10:44
arthur06forget10:44
arthur06kubuntu10:44
Wizard_what's wrong with it?10:45
micha__does somebody know where the config file for the gui shutdown button is ...10:55
Wizard_gui shutdown button?10:55
micha__the red thing under the kmenue ...10:56
micha__my box doese not fully shut down ... sudo shutdown -pH now does shutdown fully ...10:57
Wizard_micha__: you can configure it in 'login manager configuration'10:58
rmtazhey, Im getting some errors when I try to run the live cd. I want to install on my second partition but I son't know what to do10:59
rmtaz*dont10:59
micha__cool thanks Wizard_ thats it ...10:59
Wizard_your welcome :)10:59
rmtazwhen I click on start/install it gives me a code plus a description: 33.913692 Invalid MAC adress11:00
Wizard_lol11:00
Wizard_somethings wrong with your network card11:00
rmtazcrap11:00
Wizard_could you open terminal and type /sbin/ifconfig -a ?11:00
rmtazyeah, it says something about complaining to my hardware vedor after that11:00
rmtazthen more errors11:01
Wizard_maybe it loaded wrong driver11:01
rmtazit gives me those errors when its booting11:01
Wizard_or something like this11:01
rmtazso I can't get to the terminal11:01
rmtazor anything for that matter11:01
Wizard_uh11:02
virenhi i am new to kubuntu, how can i play mp3's in amarok11:02
Wizard_yesterday it asked me if i want to install mp3 support :D11:02
rmtazI cant find anything on any forums for my prob, heh11:02
viren?11:04
Wizard_hmm.. there was some info on ubuntu wiki11:04
Wizard_viren: wait a second11:05
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Wizardhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats11:08
Wizardviren: that's for you11:08
viren<wizard> i am using kubuntu11:09
Seren__I got a strange error with firefox, the first time I launch it after boot up it does not start11:09
Wizardviren: so?11:09
virendoes that link apply to this aswell11:10
Wizardread this article, it also describes kubuntu11:10
Wizardyup11:10
Jucatoor you could just try playing an mp3 in amarok, it should detect if the codec isn't installed and ask if you want to install it11:11
Wizardthat's what i've said first11:11
vireni tried that and it doesnt work --11:11
Jucatolibxine1-ffmpeg is the package you'll need. you can just install kubuntu-restricted-extras to get most of the codecs and plugins you might want11:12
rmtazyou did not specifically tell viren to try playing an mp311:12
rmtazheh11:12
Wizardusually i treat people who are using irc as smart enough to 'process' simple hints11:13
virenim lost11:13
Wizard;)11:13
rmtazhaha11:13
Wizarduh11:13
Wizardviren: what happened?11:14
Wizardthat article is pretty good11:14
Wizardworked for me, for my friend..11:14
virenis konsole the same as terminal11:14
Seren__yes viren11:15
Seren__what newsreader do you use under kubuntu ?11:15
Wizardviren: lol, yes11:15
Wizardit all refers to 'terminal emulator'11:16
Jucatoviren: here's an easy one. go to K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs. then search for "Kubuntu Restricted Extras". check the box beside it to mark for installation. then click on Apply Changes. wait for it to finish then you're good to go11:16
virenReading package lists... Done11:16
virenBuilding dependency tree11:16
virenReading state information... Done11:16
virenE: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras11:16
Jucatoviren: you'll want "kubuntu-restricted-extras"11:16
rmtazohhh11:16
rmtazadd deb11:16
virenjucato... cant find11:17
jerknextdoorhey, so silly question.  i'm trying to update to the rc1 of hardy.11:18
Seren__viren : try dpkg -l *-restricted-extra*11:18
jerknextdoornot working the way the walkthrough says it should11:18
Seren__it should list package with restricted-extra in them11:18
Wizardjerknextdoor: i have same problem few minutes ago, they mentioned wrong command-line switch11:19
Jucato#ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions11:19
jerknextdoorWizard:  any help?11:19
virenseren where do i put that11:19
Wizard--dist-upgrade-devel11:19
sigma_is anyone here running the latest svn build of what is to be kde 4.1?11:19
Seren__viren : in the konsole11:19
jerknextdoorjucato:  sorry brother,11:19
Jucatojerknextdoor: no problem11:19
Jucatosigma_: might want to try #kubuntu-kde4 though most are probably using Kubuntu packages11:20
virenno luck seren11:20
jens_hi all11:20
Seren__what does it tell you ?11:20
virenno packages found matching11:20
Seren__ok11:21
Seren__then in console try to type "kdesu adept_manager"11:21
jens_does anyone know which pc is needed by kubuntu 8 and 711:21
sigma_its just i saw a tour of what is to be 4.1 at the kde.org news site. its looking alot more usable11:22
Seren__once adept_manager is launched, click on the "adept" menu and select "manage repositories"11:22
Seren__in that new window select the first 4 options11:22
rmtazsigma: link?11:22
Seren__( one of them is called restriced )11:23
Seren__you are going to enable new repositories where the package you are looking for is located11:23
virendone11:24
Seren__ok you can then quit adept manager11:24
sigma_rmtaz: its in that kde news feed on the kde.org site, a few articles back. it links you to the full screenshot review11:24
virenit busy updating11:24
Seren__it is ok you are getting the new list of package11:24
virennow11:25
Seren__once in it is updated you can search the ubuntu-restricted-extras in the adept manager11:25
Seren__or in console typing " sud apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"11:25
virenok11:25
Seren__sudo not sud11:25
Seren__and you should then have mp3 support11:25
jpatrickkubuntu-restricted-extras*11:26
Seren__jpatrick: I don't have kubuntu-restricted-extras on my system11:26
kaminix^Is 915GL really supposed to be intel in xorg? Doesn't it use i815 or something?11:26
Seren__only something called ubuntu-11:26
Seren__and I am under kubuntu11:26
jpatrickSeren__: it exists, and has the kubuntu specific things in it11:26
Seren__I am under hardy it has maybe bee replaced ?11:27
jpatrickSeren__: you might want to install it11:27
HabbotomHey11:27
virenwat do i search for11:27
Seren__select not installed11:27
jpatrickSeren__: I can apt-get it here.11:27
Seren__and type restricted-extra in the box11:28
jpatrick!info kubuntu-restricted-extras11:28
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB11:28
rmtazWizard... if I could get to konsole, how would I fix my mac address problem?11:28
Wizarddunno, i just wanted to get more info about it11:28
rmtazahh11:28
virenits downloading11:28
Seren__jpatrick> you are in gutsy not sure it still exists in hardy cause I can't find it11:28
virenthanks soo much for your help11:28
Wizardrmtaz: you could probably unload modules from that nic11:29
Wizardand that try to find a solution11:29
jpatrickSeren__: "Version 10 (gutsy)"11:29
virenseren do u know how to install skype for kubuntu11:30
Seren__jpatrick : checking on the website the package still exists11:30
Seren__I dunnon why I can't see it11:30
HabbotomHow is every1 accessing the IRC, I'm using Konversation11:30
WizardHabbotom: irssi11:30
jpatrickHabbotom: irssi11:30
rmtazdoes irssi give you more control than konversation?11:31
Seren__viren > as far as I remember skype is in another repository with commercial software11:31
Seren__so you must add that repository11:31
jpatrickrmtaz: yes11:31
Seren__viren: look here http://www.medibuntu.org/11:31
Seren__there is an howto and everything11:32
Seren__jpatrick> I have replaced ubuntu extras with kubuntu extras11:34
jpatrickSeren__: cool11:34
Seren__apparently they are pretty similar11:34
Seren__except that gstreamer is not included11:34
jpatrickKDE uses xine11:34
Greyhound-is kubuntu 8.04 going to launch on the same date as ubuntu 8.04?11:42
kenan_can u hepl me someone?11:46
ubuntu@Greyhound think so11:47
ubuntuexit11:48
kenan_can u help me_?? someone....11:49
virenseren how can i connect to my dektop from laptop11:50
HabbotomGet Wine11:51
madexhi guys11:51
HabbotomAnd download Teamviewer11:51
madexwhats the pack for all the flash player etc?11:51
madexsudo appt get blah blah11:51
madexanyone?11:54
xRaich[o]2xmadex: flashplugin-nonfree11:55
Seren__viren > do you mean sharing directories ?11:59
aslanHaaalo12:19
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rmtazwizard?12:19
Wizardrmtaz: i have to go to work12:19
rmtazbastard!12:20
arekwitam12:27
rmtazprob: can't install or even run kubuntu from live cd because when its loading, it's reading my mac address backwards12:30
rmtaz"mac address invalid"12:30
rmtazI can disable my nic and run in safe graphics mode12:31
kaminixI suspect the new Kubuntu came with some driver errors or something for my network card, it's a lot slower than it were yesterday. Anyone who knows how I can fix this?12:34
kaminixHow can I check which driver's in use for example?12:36
Hamrahi, i use a very slow connection, so i have been downloading hardy by torrent, for a few days, but now, it says "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"12:37
Dr_willisHamra,  you may want to just wait a few days for the actual release befor using the torrent.12:37
Dan1hab ihr schon Kubuntu 8,04 rc ausprobbiert12:37
Dan1????????12:37
Dr_willisIts going to have a lot of changes here in the next few weeks. Your torrent may be no longer 'current'12:37
Hamrawhat? i have to start all over again! damn!12:38
kaminixNevermind. lsmod showed me the driver is loaded. it has loaded all rt2500-related drivers. Why is it so weak? :s12:39
Dr_willisHamra,  Beta, and the rc just got released yesterday? The final will get relesed in a few more days. (10 days?)12:40
Dr_willisOf course you can install whatever you got. and then update/upgrade.. but that may download a few 100+mb of packages also12:40
Hamraand it takes me like 10 days to download a cd, very crappy connection with cery little bandwidth12:41
_ZeuZ_I can see my domain with SMB, but I can't copy files from Kubuntu, to a host with WindowsXP (smb works, though Samba is not installed, and I'd rather not install it) what can I do?12:41
_ZeuZ_edit: never mind, solved it.12:42
Dr_willisHamra,  you may be better off just ordering a cd then.12:42
Dr_willisor finding a friend/local linux group/magazine at the bookstore. with the latest.12:43
Hamranever mind, i'll start the download when the final version is there, i want the alternate cd, i dont fancy reformatting with every version12:44
pleiiii1iiiiide12:45
Dr_willisI normally do clean installs with every new release. :)12:48
poison--!pt12:48
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:48
madexHi guys, media sharing - xbox 360, can this be done?12:56
madexnm12:58
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izaelhello13:16
lagahi. so kubuntu 8.04 won't be LTS. what happens to the kde packages after 18 months? are they demoted to universe?13:20
lagahttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components <- this website says that anything in main is supported, so i'm wondering how kde fits in13:22
Jucatoafter 18 months? you upgrade to the next version13:26
Jucato(or after 6 months if you want)13:26
Jucatomain kde packages will always be main.13:26
nosrednaekim!info kate-kde4 hardy13:26
ubotukate-kde4 (source: kdesdk-kde4): KDE4 Advanced Text Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 802 kB, installed size 2256 kB13:26
Jucatokate is no longer main :P13:27
nosrednaekimlaga: thats an interesting question :)13:27
Jucatohuh?13:27
* Jucato wonders why the question is interesting and suddenly relevant.. considering that all other releases other than Dapper were non-LTS.. and kde packages in main weren't demoted to universe13:28
Jucatonosrednaekim: kate-kde4 is not a good example at all13:28
metbsdis there live dvd that has kde4?13:28
metbsdcuz i 'd want it13:29
lagaJucato: i'm wondering because we have on repo - main - where only parts of the software will have 36 months of support (on the desktop, anyways). so people using kde apps in gnome, eg k3b, are left in the rain13:29
nosrednaekimJucato: oh....13:29
lagas/on/one/13:30
Jucatolaga: I'm not getting you... what's so different with hardy compared to breezy, edgy, feisty, and gutsy?13:30
nosrednaekimJucato: I always wondered that, Kde3 will be in Main... so will it not be supported for the whole lifecycle of Hardy?13:30
drbobbduh, what's kde4's preferred replacement for kate then?13:30
lagaJucato: hardy is LTS. but the kde parts are not.13:31
Jucatodrbobb: kate's still there. just in kdesdk13:31
nosrednaekimdrbobb: kwrite13:31
lagaso i wonder what will happen to the kde packages in after 18 months, given that they're not supported anymore (at least not commercially by canonical) while the rest of main is still supported13:31
Jucatolaga: ah. I think only the kde4 parts aren't, and any universe ones. those in main still remain LTS afaik. (although that really doesn't mean much unless you are a Canonical customer)13:31
lagaJucato: well, "supported" means security updates, i guess.13:32
Jucatolaga: imho, we've been pretty much on our own with kde packages ever since anyway13:32
Jucatoafaik the LTS most usually just affects underlying stuff (below GNOME and KDE)13:33
drbobbnosrednaekim: does kwrite4 have more than 10% of the features of kde3-kate?13:33
lagaJucato: i know (unfortunately, because everyone knows that kde is the better desktop ;)).13:33
Jucatodrbobb: no13:33
_ZeuZ_Jucato: Not necesarily.13:33
Jucatobut has more features than kwrite-kde3 :)13:33
_ZeuZ_Jucato: They involve bug patching system-wide13:33
Jucato_ZeuZ_: "system-wide" would include GNOME packages I presume?13:34
_ZeuZ_As for Kate vs. Kwrite, I'll stick with Kate, and Abiword to beat the OO supremacy (and memory hog)13:34
_ZeuZ_Jucato; yup...13:34
_ZeuZ_Luckily, gnome is less buggy than KDE in some aspects, so there are less patches for it... pretty much their patches affect configuration files, and one or 2 faulty pieces of code13:35
Jucatothere's really no KWrite vs Kate... if you want an advanced text editor, feel free to install Kate. otherwise, KDE sticks to 1 text editor by default, a basic, but not essentially less powerful  one: KWrite13:35
armadill0Hi, I'm thinking about installing 8.04 RC.  When canonical releases the 8.04 final version, how would I upgrade my 8.04 RC to the new version?  Is it as simple as apt-get upgrade?  Or would I need to do much more?  Can't wait to see it!13:35
_ZeuZ_Though, now-a-days, KDE 3.5.9 is indeed rock solid, and lightier than Gnome13:36
_ZeuZ_as for KDE 4.X.X is still too green for me13:36
_ZeuZ_and as for Kubuntu Hardy, for example, it brings Kate by default, and not Kwrite...13:36
Jucatoarmadill0: simple apt-get dist-upgrade would do13:36
drbobbwell i remember when there was a kedit or something as default13:36
armadill0Jucato: thanks sir13:36
Jucatokedit is gone in KDE 413:36
drbobbnow that was pretty useless13:36
_ZeuZ_Jucato, not entirely, xD... THe package is not the same, though you can still get a Qt4 (and KDE4.X.X) kate from KDE repos13:37
Jucato_ZeuZ_: what do you mean the package isnot the same?13:38
_ZeuZ_Oh crap, just found out I'm out of CD-R and I need to burn 4 copys of WifiSlax13:38
_ZeuZ_Jucato: Different dependencies, and different name If I don't recall wrong13:38
_ZeuZ_let me confirm that13:38
Jucato_ZeuZ_: I am talking about Kate 4 of course13:38
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Jucatothere's no issue with Kate in KDE 3.. it's installed by default and part of kdebase.13:39
Wizardfuuuck!13:39
Jucato!language | Wizard13:39
ubotuWizard: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:39
_ZeuZ_Wizard: what happen?13:39
Wizardcool13:39
drbobbas for crap, my cd/dvd burner stopped working13:40
Wizardi needed to edit /etc/hosts fast, so i simply copied it from another system13:40
_ZeuZ_@google site:kde.org kate4*13:40
Wizardbut.. that overwrote hostname entry in hosts13:40
Wizardand now sudo complains about wrong hostname13:40
Wizardwhich means: i'm screwed13:40
bleckwhy would /proc/bus/usb/devices not exist?13:40
_ZeuZ_didn't you make a backup copy?13:41
metbsdwhere do i dl dvd that has kde13:41
drbobbat first i thought there might be a problem with k3b, but it won't burn discs under windows, either13:41
Wizardi booted ubuntu in single user mode, and instead just givin me fscking root prompt it shows dialo *which does not work*13:41
Wizard_ZeuZ_: of course i did13:41
Jucatometbsd: DVD remix of KDE 4?13:41
Wizardbut how the hell can i revert to old file without root access?13:42
bleckmetbsd : just kde?13:42
_ZeuZ_then change in grub ro to rw log in as root in a rescue shell, and replace it13:42
drbobbso let me ask o/t: have you guys also found that cd/dvd burners tend to fail as soon as the warranty expires?13:42
Wizard_ZeuZ_: i can't access the rescue shell :D13:42
Wizardthe dialog simply does not work13:42
_ZeuZ_Wizard: That's why I told ya to modify in GRUB the line of Kernel booting changing RO to RW13:42
bleckdrbobb : no, but it doesn't really suprise me.. like they probably figure some fail after a certain point, so..13:43
_ZeuZ_I posted a tutorial on how to do it in www.pirator.net/forums browse for it13:43
Wizard1st, i don't have grub13:43
Wizard2nd, what for?13:43
Wizard3rd: HOW?!13:43
Wizardi can't login as root ;)13:43
metbsdkde4 and linux of course..13:43
_ZeuZ_Because that will DROP YOU to a rescue shell.13:43
drbobbbleck: especially laptop units seem to do so13:43
_ZeuZ_You won't even need a root password.13:43
Jucatometbsd: there doesn't seem to be a DVD KDE 4 remix... the plain DVD probably has both KDE 3 and 413:43
_ZeuZ_and you'll be it (once you do it, make sure with whoami)13:43
bleckdrbobb : how did it fail?13:43
metbsdwhy13:43
metbsdi sit because kde4 is not stable?13:44
Wizard_ZeuZ_: but if i want to modify yaboot config i nedd root acces, right?13:44
drbobbbleck: reading is ok, but refuses to record13:44
Wizardso how the fsck can i do it?13:44
bleckdrbobb : what happens? sure its not the software?13:44
drbobbk3b says something about bad media or whatever13:44
Wizardi'm stuck :P13:44
bleckdrbobb : try cdrecord13:44
_ZeuZ_Wizard: I allready told you how xD13:44
Wizardman13:44
_ZeuZ_PM me, and I'll explain you detailed13:44
drbobbwhich is not true, cause i take the same blanks to another pc and they work fine13:44
bleckdrbobb : just to make sure.13:45
bleckdrbobb : I *HAVE* however known laptop cd burners to be picky about the blank cds they are given.13:45
drbobbbleck: thx, will try. tried the s/w i have under windows already, and it didn;t work either13:45
drbobbexcept that it doesn't refuse to record outright13:46
bleckdrbobb : get a different type of cd, just to make sure.13:46
drbobbit starts recording, and fails halfway through instead13:46
bleckdrbobb: aah. yeah.. either, get different cds, or clean the laser13:47
bleckdrbobb : or just complain about it, and get over it :)13:47
_ZeuZ_Wizard: Loving to know I could help...13:47
drbobbbleck: already done the first 2;-/13:47
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Wizard_ZeuZ_: of course, thank you for your help13:48
drbobb#3 is switching to flash media13:48
ganapatik/.lk13:48
bleckdrbobb: yeah, i can't really remember the last time i burnt a cd, that wasn't used for booting the computer13:48
bleckdrbobb : cdrecord dev=4,1,0 -atip | tail -n 1513:53
bleckdrbobb : your dev is probably different to mine13:53
bleckdrbobb : will give you some info about the cd13:53
bleckdrbobb : it may be time to buy a replacement burner if its too problematic :)13:54
bleckso, does anyone have an idea as to why /proc/bus/usb wouldn't contain anything?13:55
ganapatihow to update the kubuntu system?13:56
Dr_willissudo apt-get update13:56
Dr_willissudo apt-get upgrade13:56
Dr_willis:)  is a easy way.13:56
Dr_willisalways rember to update, then upgrade, to get your system up to date.13:57
bleckisn't there some kinda included software.. adept or something?13:57
Wizardyeah13:57
bleckadept_notifier13:58
Wizardbleck: and adept_manager13:58
Wizardand aptitude13:58
Dr_willisthers all kinds of ways to update/upgrade the system13:58
Dr_willisTheres even an icon somewhere in the corner to tell you about new updates you just click on it.13:58
ganapatiDr_willis: how to change the repositeries??because its taking from cd rom13:59
drbobbbleck: k3b i think uses wodim, not cdrecord - is the latter somehow better in your experience?14:00
Dr_willis!cdrom14:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:00
Dr_willisganapati,  i  normaly edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and comment.delete the cdrom line at the start. OR use the repository config tools  in adept to remove it.14:00
ubuntuis anbody else getting an error 22 in grub with the RC?14:02
Dr_willisubuntu,  nope.14:03
ubuntuI try reinstalling grub but I guess its just installing it wrong14:04
Dr_willis!fixgrub | ubuntu14:04
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:04
Dr_willisGrub is one of those tools/things that  is worth learning and learning welll.14:05
bleckdrbobb : sorry, was away. um.. no idea. :)14:05
ubunturight after I install the the kubuntu I dont even get a boot menu it goes right to windows and then when I try reinstalling grub it gives an error 22 "no such partition"14:05
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Black_Monkeyhi, could I run konqueror in split view, with my home folder and an ftp site open, with one command? :/14:11
Dr_willisBlack_Monkey,  set  up a profile for that.. it can rember the view and terminal. as for the ftp site.. Not sure.14:13
Dr_willisBlack_Monkey,  or ya mean ftp site on one side.. home on other.. it can proberly rember that also.14:13
Black_Monkeyit remembers it as split view, with two panes open?14:13
Dr_willisBlack_Monkey,  you can have a large # of profiles for different layouts14:14
Black_Monkeyyeah, that - one pane home, one pane my ftp site14:14
Dr_willisKubuntu has a minimal set of them.  just file manageent and web browsing. You can easially do others14:14
Black_Monkeyok, thanks14:14
Dr_willissettings -> configure view profiles14:15
Black_Monkeyah, it works, thank you :-)14:17
Dr_willisone of themany features of kde thta people over look14:18
Jucato(because they were hidden on purpose by Kubuntu...)14:19
Roeywhat is that little icon in the bottom-left corner of my konqueror window?  I see one ofr each tab Ihave open14:20
DevourerHow can I set which programs open which associated files?14:21
JucatoRoey: what does the icon look like?14:21
JucatoDevourer: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations14:22
Roeya mushroom, Jucato, with a black top14:22
DevourerJucato, thanks.14:22
Jucatolol that's not a mushroom...14:22
RoeyJucato:  microphone?14:23
Jucatoit's a funnel.. it's Konqueror's AdBlock Filter icon14:23
Roeyohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh14:23
Roeyit's a *funnel*14:23
Roeyaaaaahahahah14:23
Jucatosee the larger version in Configure Konqueror :)14:23
Jucatosilly eh? :)14:23
Roeyok, then why do I have it for every tab open?14:23
RoeyI was about to say, "silly KDE icon developers"14:24
Jucatoactually silly Everaldo :P14:24
Roeyoh he did it?14:24
tekteenI am too tired to think :-). How do you untar a to a specific directory?14:24
Roeycd14:24
Roeycd directory14:24
Roeyoh14:24
Roeyuntar, not enter14:24
Jucatotekteen: cd to the directory... tar xzvf /location/of/the/archive14:25
* Jucato is lazy too14:25
tekteenI need it for a guide I am making14:25
tekteenthe less commands the better14:25
Jucatothen don't be lazy :P14:25
RoeyJucato:  isn't there a switch though?14:25
tekteenI searched the man14:25
JucatoRoey: there should be. but I'm lazy as well :)14:25
Roeyok, I just did, too14:25
Jucato-C I think?14:26
tekteenok14:26
tekteenI will try that14:26
Jucatotekteen: google is very helpful too14:26
tekteenok14:26
tekteen-C needs to have the directory made14:27
Jucatotekteen: yep, no way around that one. creating a target directory is separate from extracting to it14:31
tekteenok14:31
Jucatomight as well go: mkdir directory; cd directory; untar from there14:32
tekteenok14:32
tekteenmy problem is I want the least amount of commands possible14:32
oilinkihi, quick question. how to change firefox-3b4 as default browser in kubuntu (and specially in pidgin)?14:33
Wizardmkdir dir ; tar xfz file.tgz -C dir14:33
tekteenok14:33
tekteenbut then if makes a new folder in dir14:33
tekteencalled file14:33
Jucatotekteen: depends on whether the tarball has a top-level folder named file14:34
tekteenit does :-)14:34
oilinkiI have tried both on the system settings/default applications and also pidgin settings/browser. neither gives an solution for this.14:34
tekteenI think I figured it out14:35
Jucatogood :)14:35
DevourerIf I have an application on  one desktop why can I see it when I'm on another desktop?14:36
tekteenit is on all desktops14:37
Devourertekteen, why?14:37
tekteenso you mean on the bar or on the desktop?14:37
DevourerOn the bar.14:37
tekteenok14:37
tekteenrightclick the bar14:38
WizardDevourer: you can disable that14:38
DevourerI come from the world of Gnome, such a foreign place here..14:38
tekteenconfigure pannel14:38
DevourerWizard, how?14:38
DevourerWhere's the configure panel?14:38
tekteenI am telling you :-)14:38
JucatoDevourer: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panels -> Taskbar page -> uncheck [ ] Show windows from all desktops14:38
nonewmsgsmy effen geforce 7900 does not show a screen after the loading spash screen.  i have even tried vesa with fb and vesa without14:39
DevourerCool.14:39
krissihallo14:39
nonewmsgsdoes anyone know how to tell it that it is going to give me a screen or it's going through the window?14:40
tekteenkrissi: hi14:40
krissiich hab seit gestern den kubuntu 8.04 RC installiert und nun habe ich merkwürdigerweise keinen sound...hat jemand vielleicht das selbe problem und hat eine lösung parat?14:41
tekteen!de | krissi14:41
ubotukrissi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de14:41
nonewmsgskrissi:  you are asking about hardy and you should be in ubuntu+114:41
krissiachso sry14:41
nonewmsgsno worries14:41
nonewmsgswe lost our girl14:42
Jimmy1Hey guys i just installed that compiz 3d thingy and the windows that are opened do not have the little icon where you can, close minimise and maximise the screen ! what happend and how do i fix it ?14:42
JucatoJimmy1: as always, #compiz-fusion but as a hint, I don't think compiz-fusion is running or any window manager14:42
Jimmy1yeh it is cause it is doing the flip screen thing14:43
tekteenJimmy1: alt+f214:43
tekteenthen type kwin --replace14:43
Jimmy1reason y i didnt go there is cause i didnt think it was a compiz related error14:43
tekteenit is14:43
Jimmy1ok ill go there14:43
Jimmy1i am becoming quite a regular here !14:44
tekteenlol14:45
Jimmy1soon i will have had all the problems of ubuntu and ill be the one helping14:45
Jimmy1hahah14:45
tekteenI got into helping here14:45
tekteenwhen I came and no one could help me :-)14:45
Jimmy1quite a fullon O/S linux aye14:45
tekteenfullon?14:46
Jimmy1its not for the light hearted14:46
Jimmy1yeh its slang14:46
tekteenoh14:46
Jimmy1brb14:46
nonewmsgsJimmy1: we have all felt like that14:47
nonewmsgs:)14:47
Jimmy1back14:48
tekteenhi14:48
Devourer:o14:48
Jimmy1yeh i swear i could have smashed this computer cause nothing ever worked14:48
tekteen!hi| Jimmy114:48
ubotuJimmy1: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:48
Jimmy1every1 keept going Errr Ubuntu thats sht just use windows14:49
* Jimmy1 hates bill gates14:49
DevourerJimmy1, haha, and who is every1?14:49
Jimmy1gf her brother ppl from school14:49
Jimmy1brb14:49
kaminixMy everything is lagging since updating to Hardy. Network is super slow, when I scroll text it lags and... well, yeah. Any suggestions?14:52
kaminixActually, it's only lagging when I scroll my terminal. But still.14:53
DevourerIs Hardy 8.04?14:53
kaminixYes.14:53
kaminixThe RC14:53
Devourer#ubuntu+114:53
Jimmy1ok im back14:53
DevourerJimmy1, you need to get new friends.14:54
Jimmy1hahaha14:54
Jimmy1nah just wanna get the linux system all working14:54
DevourerJimmy1, they are holding you back from experiencing the world.14:54
Jimmy1then i wont be here again14:54
Jimmy1Ohh i got no friends any more !14:54
Jimmy1i used to14:54
Jimmy1then i got a gf and moved interstate14:54
Jimmy1hahahha14:54
DevourerThe internet is the only friend you really need.14:54
* Jimmy1 LMFAO14:54
Jimmy1ok how about we work on my lil problem14:55
Jimmy1since no on in compiz is alive14:55
Jimmy1here we go again14:55
Jimmy1Hey guys i just installed that compiz 3d thingy and the windows that are opened do not have the little icon where you can, close minimise and maximise the screen ! what happend and how do i fix it ?14:55
DevourerHaha.14:55
DevourerWhat does compiz do?14:55
Jimmy1rephrase that question  ?14:56
DevourerWhat is compiz's purpose?14:56
Jimmy1oh 3d pretty stuff14:56
Devourerlol14:56
Jimmy1youtube it14:56
DevourerYeah, that's all I see when I searched for KDE on Youtube.14:56
Devourers/see/saw/14:57
Jimmy1whats the diff between Ubuntu Kubuntu and the rest ?14:57
DevourerUbuntu uses Gnome by default I suppose and Kubuntu uses KDE by default.14:57
Jimmy1whats gnome ?14:57
Jimmy1and whats kde14:57
DevourerGnome is a desktop environment...14:58
DevourerSO is KDE.14:58
Jimmy1ummmmmmmmmmm14:58
* Jimmy1 is fully enlightened now14:58
DevourerBasically the pretty interface that let's you navigate through Ubuntu without having to use the terminal.14:58
Jucato!gnome > Jimmy114:58
Jucato!kde > Jimmy114:58
Jucatosee the PM the bot sent14:58
Devourer!gnome > Devourer14:59
Jimmy1yeh14:59
Jimmy1bit too high tec for me i think14:59
Jimmy1i think i like kubuntu best15:00
DevourerYeah, I just switched over to KDE yesterday.15:00
Jimmy1cool cool15:00
DevourerTired of how ugly Gnome is.15:00
Jimmy1so any1 wanna have a stab at fixing my lil issue ?15:00
Jucatobasically, a Desktop Environment provides you with a graphical environment with a desktop, windows, panels, icons, and a suite of related apps to help make life easier for you15:00
DevourerJimmy1, Have you tried googling it?15:01
Jimmy1let interactive15:01
Jimmy1where as if i come here i talk to you lot and we all get to fix my computer and we all get self satisfaction once it gets fixed :)15:01
Jimmy1less i mean15:02
Jucato(don't be so selfish :P)15:02
* Jimmy1 giggles15:02
Jimmy1ok the think that closes the box is gone15:02
Jimmy1where did it go and how do i get it back ?15:02
Jimmy1cant minimise the screen15:02
Jimmy1cant close the screen15:02
Jimmy1you know what i mean " ? _ and X15:03
pauljwJimmy1, you need to locate the compiz manager and select the correct theme manager, but i don't remember the details, i don't use it myself.15:05
sourcemakeris the apt server down?15:05
sourcemakerI try to update my system.... waiting for header.. and that's it..15:06
Pliskinsourcemaker : You have to choose another mirror15:06
sourcemakerPliskin: how can I do that?15:06
PliskinAdept > Repository > Mirror15:07
sourcemakerPliskin: and with the command line?15:07
PliskinIt happens with every new version15:07
PliskinYou have to edit (we say that in english ?) the sources.list file15:08
sourcemakerPliskin: ok thanks15:08
Pliskinyou welcome :)15:09
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Coggzcan anyone help me with hotkeys?15:11
Jucato!anyone | Coggz15:11
ubotuCoggz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?15:11
Coggzok, i would like someone to aid me in getting hotkeys on my Acer Travelmate C111TCi (C110) working, that includes wlan, Bluetooth, volume...15:13
Wizardhmm15:13
Coggztricky one...15:14
theunixgeekShouldn't Kubuntu come preinstalled with KOffice instead of OpenOffice?15:14
Wizardcould somebody tell me what's the name of application running in system tray and showing battery status?15:14
Jucatotheunixgeek: long story short: not yet. will be a bit soon...15:14
JucatoWizard: guidance-power-manager15:14
theunixgeekJucato: what do you mean?15:14
Coggztheunixgeek: openoffice is better in my mind15:15
WizardJucato: thanks15:15
Jucatotheunixgeek: basically waiting for KOffice 215:15
theunixgeekJucato: I see15:15
Coggztheunixgeek: koffice is too basic at the moment15:15
theunixgeekCoggz: yeah, but it doesn't really fit into the KDE look :)15:15
Jucato!shortcuts | Coggz15:15
ubotuCoggz: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts15:15
Coggztheunixgeek: true, true15:16
jimbonjour15:16
Wizardsleep does not work :/15:16
jimja mapel jim15:16
Wizardi experience only problems with that "thing"15:16
jimpalevou francia15:17
Coggz!fr - jim15:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fr - jim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:17
jimlol15:17
jimim not french15:17
Coggzgood15:17
jimits meeeeeeeeeeee Jimmmy115:17
jimtrying to fix that close window thing15:17
jimstill no lucj15:17
jimluck15:17
jimcompiz ppl sleeping15:17
Coggzah, c'est parfait bon15:17
theunixgeekjim: emmm..... je m'appelle and parlez-vous français :P15:18
theunixgeekCoggz: French doesn't look like "parlevou francia" :P15:18
flipstarhi jim, whats the prob ..?15:18
Wizardfrench looks like strang mix of sounds from other planet15:19
theunixgeekWizard: well, at least jim's French :P15:20
flipstarits a nice language if you hear them flowlessly speak :)15:20
jimlol15:21
jimits ok someone is in compiz now15:21
jim:)15:21
jimi found someone els to bug for tonight ;)15:21
Pliskineven the best language :)15:21
jimill just chat to you guys instead of giving you my problems !15:21
Azzcomkfs.vfat command not found. Anyone?15:22
Wizardok, enough kde4 :D15:23
Wizardmkdosfs15:23
flipstarAzzco: its a kernel thing i think ..are you running the common generic kernel ?15:23
Azzcoflipstar: The default generic from what I know15:24
Wizardit's not a kernel thing15:24
AzzcoFound dosfstools, thanks Wizard :)15:24
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Wizardyour welcome15:25
florian_hi15:26
Wizardhi15:26
florian_do you speek engish?15:26
Wizardyes15:27
Wizard;D15:27
jimhi15:27
jimme 215:27
florian_wer spricht hier deutsch?15:27
Odd-rationale!de15:27
jimnine15:27
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:27
Coggzhmm, that page was good Jucato, but the keys dont work with that15:29
Jucatooh sorry Coggz. that's the only one I now15:30
jimdoes any1 need help in here ?15:30
* Wizard 15:30
jimi have had every problem imaginable15:30
jimi can help any1 !15:30
Wizardjim: why the hell system freezes after closing lid?15:31
jimi dunno15:31
jimdont ask me15:31
jim:)15:31
Wizardi configured it to do suspend to ram15:31
* jim giggles15:31
Odd-rationalejim: how about Networkmanager error messages on shutdown?15:31
jimHmmm15:31
kedarI am having some trouble when installing KDE4 on my Kubuntu Gutsy box. I added the repository "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main" to my sources.list file and ran update15:31
Wizard;D15:31
* jim phones a friend15:31
JucatoWizard: suspend to ram has always been flaky in Kubuntu imho15:31
jimNO wait15:31
jimill Pass15:31
kedarNow when I try "apt-get install kde4-core" it gives me lots of dependancy issues15:32
kedaris this known issue >15:32
Jucatokedar: #kubuntu-kde4 might be of more help15:32
kedarJucato: thanks for pointing15:32
* jim points at kedar15:33
WizardJucato: it worked perfectly in debian15:34
Wizardstrange15:34
Wizardi don't wan't to reinstall now15:34
krisxtrying to install the new xfi driver from my desktop can anyone help15:34
JucatoWizard: Debian and Ubuntu have different setups... like kernels...15:34
krisxspent to long in windows became stupid15:35
Wizardyeah.. i don't remember witch kernel was used in debian sid15:35
Coggz!file15:37
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview15:37
krisxty15:38
krisxbye15:39
christopherwhen I install the latest version of kubuntu I get lines running up and down the screen.  any suggestions?15:40
Coggz!acerhk15:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acerhk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:41
Jucatochristopher: if by latest, you mean Hardy, please try asking in #ubuntu+115:41
christopherok thanks15:42
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Coggzok, i would like someone to aid me in getting hotkeys on my Acer Travelmate C111TCi (C110) working, that includes wlan, Bluetooth, volume...15:48
USN1520hello all, I just installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu base.  When logging in I get the 'cannot start kdestartupconfig'  how do I correct this?15:48
jimOh i know what how i can help ppl15:50
jimi can help by showing where the on and off switch is15:51
* jim :)15:51
fdovingUSN1520: did you install kde3 or kde4?15:51
USN1520I installed the kde currently in Hardy15:51
USN1520not really sure15:52
fdovingthere are two :)15:52
USN1520how do I determine version15:52
fdovingUSN1520: if you want kde on kubuntu you should probably install the package 'kubuntu-desktop'15:52
USN1520that is what I installed15:52
fdovingUSN1520: then you have kde3. and you should have kstartupconfig too.15:53
USN1520fdoving: so what would make it not run when KDM loaded it?15:54
fdovingUSN1520: that is a good question,15:54
USN1520fdoving: can I run it from GNOME in a terminal15:55
fdovingyou can try?15:55
fdovingi need to go. bye.15:55
USN1520thanks15:56
USN1520I appreciate your help15:56
liamhi i am new to kubuntu15:57
TodoSoftPort re-opening, it{s not puntually closed, though Nmap scans it as such15:57
liami need help15:57
florian_whats up?16:00
Coggzhow do i add a module to modprobe?16:01
TodoSoftmodprove MODULE16:02
TodoSoftmodprobe MODULE16:02
liamis there a updatemanager for kde16:03
TodoSoft!open a port16:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about open a port - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:03
Coggz!modprobe16:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:04
Coggzmodprobe acerhk, like that TodoSoft16:04
florian_sry no idea16:05
TodoSoftCoggz yup16:09
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florian_hi16:22
Coggz^hi all again16:23
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szakulec_hi i was looking for the ktorrent temp files, which I found, but the torrent files there don16:31
szakulec_don't show up as torrent files16:31
Wizarddo they have strange names?16:31
Wizardcopy it somewhere and rename it to something.torrent16:31
Coggz^!wlan16:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:32
Coggz^!wifi16:32
szakulec_Wizard: that seems like it might work- thanks!16:32
Wizard[MX]Mitsuzero: your welcome16:33
Wizarddamn16:33
Wizardszakulec_: your welcome16:33
gnoobDoes the 8.04 CD have let you install KDE 4.0 or is KDE 4.0 included in a special version?16:34
gnoobThe remix16:35
Wizardgnoob: i installed it later using apt16:35
Wizardfirst i did ana update, than installed kde416:35
gnoobThat's true, either way I guess it would update.16:35
gnoobThink I will start downloading it.  I have never used Ubuntu or kubuntu. I am going to have my dad try it.16:36
Jucato!khardy | gnoob16:36
ubotugnoob: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported16:36
pjvhey guys how do i make amarok be the default player when i plug in my ipod. I'm using KDE16:37
blackflagHello all :)16:38
blackflagI have a external HD attached via usb16:38
blackflagThe problem is when I copy to this HD i get transfer rates und 1 MB16:39
blackflagusb is 2.016:39
blackflagwhat can I configure tomake the connection faster?16:39
blackflagcan someone help?16:39
jack_sprattblackflag: havent experiences this im afraid, googled low usb trasfer speeds in kubuntu?16:41
benpiccoHi, how can I get konqueror to acces a CD by /media/cdrom0 (or whatever the mountpoint is) instead of media:/scd0?16:43
benpiccoit's really anoying, in those media:/ paths, there is no preview, ark or okkular (kde4 versions) can't access data there and copy & paste of those paths is impossible16:45
benpiccowhat's the idea behind this behaviour at all?16:45
Daisuke_Idobenpicco, the idea is to drive kde users batty16:46
Jucatobenpicco: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Previews  & Meta Data -> Local Protocol -> check [ ] media16:47
Daisuke_Idoat least, that's what i've gathered.16:47
Jucatoit once served its purpose, but it's getting cumbersome.. so it's gone in KDE 4 now16:48
Jucatoalthough I don't know why you aren't able to access data there16:48
benpiccoark is not able to acces this data16:48
* Jucato sees that more as Ark's limitation... Ark is sucky...16:49
benpiccookular has the same problem16:49
Daisuke_Idobenpicco, nor can k9copy or okula.. yeah16:49
benpiccoanother wired thing is that mountpoints in media:/ are named compleatly different16:50
benpiccothan the ones in /media16:50
Jucatookular is normal.. kde4 doesn't know media:/16:50
Daisuke_Idobesides, having multiple partitions of the same size, i much prefer dealing with them by name rather than by size...  that would be like giving identical triplets the same name16:50
Jucatounlike media:/, though, you can't give arbitrary labels to those /media mount points16:51
Jucato(But then again, who needs arbitrary labels)16:51
Jucatoanyway, as for changing media:/ to /media... Kubuntu did that with Feisty (or was it Edgy), but unfortunately KDE 3 is not very adaptable to that change as a whole...16:52
Jucatotoo many issues, so it was reverted16:52
Coggz^how do i use a command like echo on > /proc/driver/acerhk/led in thunderbird?16:56
nosrednaekimCoggz^: #mozilla ...16:58
Coggz^nosrednaekim: thanks17:01
hydrogencould someone please backport the libqt4-ruby fix from hardy?..17:03
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amerigohow to lock my ip address??? kubuntu cange ery times17:17
amerigoi've miss the "h"s17:17
amerigo! xubuntu17:18
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels17:18
vLdSSanyone know how to get a spell checker onto kile?17:19
liamhow do i coustomize kde17:22
Jucato!changethemes | liam17:23
ubotuliam: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes17:23
jhutchinsamerigo: It's not kubuntu that's changing your IP, it's your ISP.17:26
zizousalut17:26
zizouVous me comprenez Y a des français ?17:27
amerigojhutchins: yes I means right this, but I don't know where I had to fix it17:27
NickPresta!fr | zizou17:27
ubotuzizou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:27
jhutchinsamerigo: You can't.17:27
zizouOk thanks ubotu17:27
ctwHi! I'd like to ubrade to the Hardy RC. I saw these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu ... unfortunately, I don't get the "version upgrade" button in the adept manager. In the past I've just manually changed the release name in the sources.list file, but I figured maybe it's safer to do it the recommended way. Any advice?17:28
amerigojhutchins: I've just check my situation.... kubuntu when start gives an ip address randomly. it belong to a lan and the server tell me the differt ip each time i retart17:32
amerigorestart17:32
amerigothis pc sometimes take the ip address of my lan printer...17:33
amerigo... and there are some problem17:33
liamhow do i update kde17:35
amerigothis is because i have dhcp "active", but if I give a ip address manually >>>> lan don't works17:35
stdhi everybody17:36
stdcya17:36
ctwDoes anybody know why I might not have the "version upgrade" button in adept manager, and if just changing sources.list is advisable?17:37
szakulec_when I did an  upgrade before, you needed to check off some of the other repositiories17:38
amerigo! lan17:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:39
jhutchinsamerigo: What is providing dhcp?17:39
amerigojhutchins:  Xp home computer, tha works like server17:40
jhutchinsamerigo: Not recommended, but you need to reserve the printer's IP address.17:41
amerigo(if i have understand your question)17:41
jhutchinsamerigo: Also reserve any other manually assigned address.17:41
ceckohi, my ubuntu does recognize CDMA modem but it does not connect it to /dev/usb/ttyACM017:41
ceckoany ideas?17:41
ceckoI have the /dev/usb/ttyACM0 file17:42
jhutchinsamerigo: You can also tie a specific address to the MAC of your linux box and it will always assign that address instead of "random" addresses.17:42
jhutchinscecko: What does it connect it to?17:42
ceckojhutchins I don't know it's friends box.17:43
ceckodmesg says there is the USB ACM modem17:43
amerigojhutchins: printer's ip is always the same. Can you give me an example of MAC address?? Where I can see it??17:43
ceckojhutchins but calling with pppd says: unrecognized device /dev/usb/ttyACM017:43
yao_ziyuani just installed kde4-core17:44
yao_ziyuanfound it not useful17:44
yao_ziyuanbut i have set kde4 as the default window manager17:44
yao_ziyuanhow do i set it back to kdm?17:44
jimhey my lil icons that close the windows and minimise them are gone ! how do i get them back ! i cant even move the screen thats open unless i press alt17:44
ceckojhutchins any ideas? how do I find out what device in /dev the modem is? it did not list any /dev address in dmesg17:46
Jucatojim: if you can get to a Konsole (or if right-click on desktop -> Run Command works), type "kwin --replace"17:46
Jucatoyao_ziyuan: kde4-core is too "basic" and won't contain much useful stuff. #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions17:46
yao_ziyuaneither my window manager or my display manager has changed to kde4. i want it back to kde3...17:47
yao_ziyuanwhat is kde3's default x window manager? kwin or metacity?17:47
Jucatoif you have kde3 installed, just logout, then choose KDE 3 from the Session17:47
SSJ_GZyao_ziyuan: kwin17:47
Jucatokwin of coursze17:47
Jucatometacity is GNOME's window manager17:48
yao_ziyuannow it's metacity but everything seems the same17:48
algyzHi, trying to manage with partitions with qtparted, but it is not allowing to create one more primary partition http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3703/partitionsar4.png17:48
yao_ziyuanthen, how to change the default display manager?17:49
metbsdwhere do i get kubuntu live dvd?17:49
yao_ziyuandone17:50
yao_ziyuansudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm17:50
metbsdkubuntu = debian?17:50
hydrogenyes = no?17:51
yao_ziyuanwhen i was installing kde4-core,17:52
yao_ziyuanconfiguration went halfway and adept-manager silently crashed17:53
yao_ziyuan\17:53
yao_ziyuannow it says kde4-core is "installed"17:53
yao_ziyuanbut i doubt some packages are not configured17:53
yao_ziyuanmaybe i should remove kde4-core, run an autoremove, then install kde4-core again?17:54
metbsdit's 2008, why do we still need to edit a file to get different resolution18:07
chullms18:13
* chull smiles18:14
ubuntuHola a todos!18:14
dhqfdoving: hi18:14
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oemsakra kde to jsem?? vůbec to tady nechápu18:14
hydrogen!cz | oem18:15
ubotuoem: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.18:15
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ActionParsni1hey all18:15
ActionParsni1how can I make firefox want to remember a usename / password for a aprticular site if I said never remember it previously?18:15
dhqwell i have a problem knetwork manager does not connect to wifi network........ it connects once and doesnt connect again till reboot18:15
chullthis is chalcedony and husband, he had youtube working ok last night and tried to run something abot 'magicjack' the new phone thing.. and now all the youtubes AND that one sound all ripply.18:15
lobogris412alguien en espa~ol?18:15
viggossorry, používám tohle poprvé, sem zvyklej na icq18:15
jussio1!es | lobogris41218:15
ubotulobogris412: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:15
lobogris412gracias :)18:16
jussio1:)18:16
lobogris412xD18:16
chull:)18:16
chullhow to fix sound problems in gutsy kubuntu?18:20
jussio1chull: which sc, whats the issue?18:21
chulljussi01, it's my husband's computer, he was watching a youtube but now all the youtube's sound is messed up18:22
theuser1using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  , any help?18:23
jussio1chull: can you give any more info, how is it messed up, does it work for other things? which sound card do you have?18:23
chulljussi01, how to get the name of his soundcard ?18:23
jussio1lspci18:24
chullmy husband can't speak or hear.. we have to guess what he wants to tell me18:24
chullty18:24
chulljussio1,  00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS18:25
sigma_1234is hardy relatively free of bugs now?18:26
jussio1chull: Im a little confused, if your husband cannot hear, how can he tell if the sound is bad?18:26
chulljussi01, his sound was ok, and then we ran the youtube about 'magicjack' it was like underwater18:26
jussio1sigma_1234: #ubuntu+1 please18:27
chulljussi01, i say hear ... he had a stroke which damaged the language center of his brain, he can hear, just not process language18:27
jussio1ah. can you give me the you tube link so I can test here?18:27
chullyes18:28
jussio1chull: I need to go out for a bit, I should be back within the hour.18:29
chull http://www.magicjack.com/1/index.asp  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WkcefWzjkg&feature=related18:29
chulljussio1, thank you very much .. there are the links18:29
theuser1using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  ,       g4l uses   partiimage   and that uses  the dd comand i   think.....              any help?18:30
rdragonquick question: is kubuntu 8.04 going to be an LTS release?18:34
djouallahis any one is using kubuntu 8.04-kde4 in arabic !18:35
jakoledzy mam duzy problem pomozecie18:36
hydrogenrdragon: nope18:36
djouallahor hebrew ?18:37
DevourerWhen I open a terminal and hit maximize it doesn't maximize... why?18:37
theuser1using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  ,       g4l uses   partiimage   and that uses  the dd comand i   think.....              any help?18:38
DevourerDoes KDE have it's own terminal?18:40
djouallahyep Devourer18:40
djouallahkonsole18:40
jachcialem zainstalowac dystrybucje zenwalk ale instalator sam zrobil partycjowanie wiec ja sie przestraszylem i zresetowalem kompa i zostalo zajelo mu to 2s ale ja chce odzyskac ntfs18:41
Devourerdjouallah, I don't see it under utilities.18:41
djouallahperhaps it not installed !18:42
hydrogen!pl | ja18:42
ubotuja: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl18:42
PliskinDevourer : System18:42
* djouallah is in work no access to kde here !18:43
theuser1 can any one recomend an easy to use utilitiy that can make image of a partition for backup and can support compression?18:43
DevourerPliskin, thanks.18:43
Devourerdjdarkman, lol.18:43
naumancan ny one help me on using kubuntu18:46
DevourerHow can I add a link to the quick launcher panel?18:47
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djouallahis any one is using kubuntu 8.04-kde4 in arabic !18:50
DevourerHow can I make a link?18:50
PliskinI have tested KDE3 in arabic before, but not KDE418:51
Pliskin(excuse my english)18:52
djouallahPliskin,  u have not to excuse18:52
djouallahactually i am using kde4 under windows18:52
djouallahbut arabic don't want to show18:52
Wizarddjouallah: and what about linux? did you see arabic text?18:53
djouallahi never triy it before, to be honest ;) on linux, i use english18:54
Wizard:P18:54
djouallahbut as i am testing kde under windows and as i speak arabic18:54
Wizardhmm, try asking on #kde18:55
djouallahlet's say bug hunting :)18:55
djouallahalready done18:55
djouallahnot much arab there !18:55
Wizardso i'm out of ideas :D18:55
djouallahhehe18:55
Wizard1. i don't use windows.. 2. i know only few arabic words (mostly curses)18:56
Pliskinunder linux, there is a package for arabic18:56
Pliskinhave you installed the same for windows ?18:56
Wizardah, right!18:56
djouallahyeah but it don't show18:56
Wizarddid you set language in control center?18:57
djouallahWizard,  u mean systemesetting in kde418:57
djouallahit is not availabe on windows, u have to type kcmsell4 language :)18:58
Wizardlol18:58
Wizardcool18:58
djouallahWizard,  what's cool !18:59
Wizarddjouallah: using kcmshell to set things up ;D18:59
djouallahbut i hope we get a gui for windows :)19:00
Wizarddjouallah: does kde4 replaces windows shell?19:01
djouallahno of course it is just the applications19:01
Wizardor it just runs kde apps on top of windows shell?19:01
djouallahlatter19:01
Wizardah, too bad19:01
djouallahno in the contrary, what matter are apps19:02
Wizardbrb19:03
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Jack111hi can anybody help, i cannot view pdfs or images embedded in the konqueror or dolphin, just externally19:03
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Jack111tried to change file associations but it wont work19:04
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scarygarySorry about that..19:04
Jack111netscape plugin viewer wont work19:05
yakuziI'm wondering, if i want to make a triple boot (winXP, Kubuntu, Arch Linux) can i use this partition scheme: boot,windows,swap,kubuntu,Arch Linux, data partition? So that Kubuntu and Arch use both the same swap partition?19:06
DevourerIs there a libxine-ffmpeg package?19:07
DevourerI'm trying to get amarok to play wma's.19:07
PliskinThey can use the same swap partition I think, but not the same /home19:07
yakuzithe /home is on each linux partition because i store my data on the fat32 data partition (windows needs acces too heh)19:09
Pliskinso it will work I guess19:10
dekI have installed KDE4 and it is now my default WM, but I want KDE3 to be default. How do I change it?19:11
Jack111does anybody know how to get embedded pdf viewing in dolphin or konqueror19:11
Pliskindek : KDM choose the latest WM to be default, doesn't it ?19:12
hydrogenthere should be an options button19:12
hydrogenon kdm19:12
dekPliskin: I mean that when I login, I get the KDE4 desktop instead of KDE3 login screen19:13
scarygaryDoes anyone know if there's a patch available for the native rt2870(D-link DWA-140) driver to make it compile in hardy?19:13
Pliskindek : ah, have you deactivated kdm ?19:14
dekPliskin: no19:15
dekPliskin: I want to make KDE3 default desktop again19:15
DevourerHow can I make FireFox my default browser?19:15
PliskinDevourer : KControl > Default apps19:15
dekPliskin: found it! had to do dpkg-reconfigure kdm19:18
Pliskindek : sorry, I didn't help you :/19:19
dekPliskin: np ;)19:19
Jack111anybody experienced with dolphin or konqueror?19:27
* Wizard 19:27
Wizardwith konqueror19:27
Wizardi've been using it since kde 219:27
Jack111Wizard: i have got the prob i cannot use it for embedded pic or pdf viewing, so annoying to wait for other progs to load19:29
WizardJack111: so you want to enable thumbnails, right?19:29
Wizardgo to konq settings and view 'metadata and thumbnails'19:30
Wizardsomething like this19:30
Jack111Wizard: yes, but view it larger like in 100%19:31
PliskinI think he talks about the KPDF KPart19:31
Wizardhmm..19:31
Wizardso right-klick and select preview in19:32
DevourerPliskin, I don't see the default apps options.19:34
DevourerPliskin, found it.19:34
yoanishi there19:39
zizou#kubuntu-fr19:40
yoanisi've an hp pavilion dv200 and when i hit Fn-F519:40
yoanisthe laptop it's supposed to be suspended19:40
yoanisand it doesn't19:40
yoanisthis thing was working .. but now is not. i'm just looking for some advice about19:41
yoanisplaces and configurations to check19:41
geburahhi all19:42
Jack111Wizard: Pliskin, it works fine in kde 3 konqu, but not in kde 4, it stops with the message loading netscape plugin for file xyz.pdf, also it always loads gwenview when trying to view it embedded even though i associadted it for the embedded preview19:42
Pliskinwhy does it load netscape plugin for a pdg ?19:44
Pliskinpdf*19:44
geburahhas anyone got experience with hardware raid0 ?19:44
Wizardgeburah: me, but only on freebsd19:45
geburahi have got 2x500Gb in RAID0, but from fdisk and from gparted i see two disks, not a single big one19:45
Wizardls /dev19:46
Wizardlook for raid or something like this19:46
Wizardalse see dmesg | less19:46
Wizardand make sure raid is actually enabled19:46
geburahno *raid* in /dev19:47
geburahwhat should i look for in dmesg?19:47
Wizardhmm, something about disk initialisation19:47
Wizardi don't know how linux marks raid devices19:47
Wizardi wasn't so crazy to install linux on server ;D19:48
geburahhehehe19:48
geburahi see19:48
geburahi do this at work, with red hat19:48
geburahbut i don't want to use red hat at home19:48
Wizardcheck dmesg19:48
Wizardit should tell you what hardware was detected19:49
Wizardit is not long listing19:49
geburahyeap, but i can't see any raid ata ll19:49
Wizardhmm19:49
Wizardmaybe it's disabled in bios?19:49
geburahi enabled it ( or taht is what i think )19:50
Wizardmine ibm had alot options to control raid config from bios19:50
geburahi am going to start IRC in anotehr computer so i can reboot this one and check it19:50
Wizardi spent half day on configuration :P19:50
geburahi'll be back ;)19:50
Wizardk19:50
florianhi19:52
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geburahhi all19:57
theunixgeekI can't get my screen resolution past 1024x786. How can I fix this?19:57
theunixgeekI want to get it to 1280x102419:57
Wizardtheunixgeek: use flamethrower19:57
Wizardand seriously, try with vesa19:57
theunixgeekWizard: what's vesa?19:57
theunixgeekoh, that19:58
theunixgeekhmm... I think I have an idea.19:58
theunixgeekI'll restart X since I just installed the restricted drivers.19:58
Wizardwith flamethrower?19:58
theunixgeekI'll be right back19:58
geburahI have teh RAID BIOS on screen right now19:59
andrewmindoes anyone know when the next kubuntu lts is?19:59
Wizardandrewmin: site says in 5 days19:59
andrewminWizard: isn't that just for ubuntu?19:59
DiViN3[-Hi-] there i need some help in getting my psybnc running19:59
DiViN3anyone care to help me20:00
geburahi see two identical drives as RAID0 under ARRAY020:00
claydohandrewmin: there has been no announcement on which version the next Kubuntu LTS version will be, yet20:00
andrewminclaydoh: thanks20:01
DiViN3claydoh : can u assist me plz20:01
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theunixgeekWizard: I have it working now :)20:01
theunixgeekthanks20:02
Wizardgeburah: so it should be detected by linux20:02
geburahWizard: it was not20:02
Wizard:S20:02
linuxbombI installed kde4 but I still have no krunner.  How can I install krunner?20:02
DiViN3Wizard : are you free to help me20:02
WizardDiViN3: shoot20:02
geburahi am going to boot into Windows see if the problems exists there as well20:03
theunixgeekHow do I update to KDE 4?20:03
DiViN3Wizard: i cant install psybnc in my kubuntu box20:03
claydohDiViN3: just ask, there are many good folks in here :)20:03
DiViN3i m getting error 120:03
geburahtheunixgeek:  are you already in HArdy?20:04
DiViN3cant even compile conf20:04
theunixgeekgeburah: no. Hardy messes up my install.20:04
geburahtheunixgeek: gutsy?20:04
theunixgeekyes20:04
Wizardwhat's psybnc?20:04
DiViN3errk20:05
Wizardand seriously, DiViN3, are you compiling from source?20:05
DiViN3well i download it from the wget n install20:05
claydohtheunixgeek: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php20:05
theunixgeekthanks20:05
DiViN3but when i type make - it showss erroe20:05
benjamin_does anyone have any 7.10 sound problem experience20:06
theunixgeekafter I install KDE 4, how do I remove KDE 3 and the KDE 3 apps?20:06
DiViN3make: *** [all] Error 120:06
geburahso you want to move permanaently to kde 4?20:06
benjamin_7.10 sound anyone?20:07
theunixgeekgeburah: yes20:07
benjamin_fresh install and I have no sound20:07
geburahtheunixgeek: have you sen this?20:07
geburahhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/20:07
DiViN3so can i know the way of resolve that problem20:07
theunixgeekgeburah: no20:07
theunixgeek:P20:07
WizardDiViN3: paste ~20 last messages on pastebin.ca20:07
jhutchinsbenjamin_: does alsamixer run in console?20:07
claydohtheunixgeek: removing kde3 is tricky, id suggest trying the kde4 hardy disk20:07
theunixgeekgeburah: thanks; I'll try it out :)20:08
theunixgeekclaydoh: no, I keep getting dropped to a busybox shell20:08
claydohtheunixgeek: but in kde4 you might still need some kde3 app right now20:08
benjamin_jhutchins yes20:08
DiViN3Wizard : dont mind how do i paste the messages in pastebin20:08
theunixgeekclaydoh: just a few, I hope ;)20:08
jhutchinsbenjamin_: All inputs/outputs on and up?20:08
WizardDiViN3: you will need to install header files (-dev packages) to compile psybnc20:08
geburahtheunixgeek: i would not move permanently to kde4 at the moment20:09
WizardDiViN3: open browser -> pastebin.ca -> right click on text field -> paste20:09
DiViN3ok wats the command to install that packages20:09
theunixgeekgeburah: why not?20:09
benjamin_jhutchins: well now they are let me check, if this fixed it20:09
theunixgeekgeburah: I've tried it before and I like it20:09
jhutchinstheunixgeek: It's not finished.  Most of the programs you actually USE the computer for aren't ported.  But, hey, it looks great!20:09
geburahtheunixgeek: too new, too buggy still, lack of features20:09
benjamin_line in and iec958 have no bars20:09
geburahtheunixgeek: too tender20:09
theunixgeekgeburah: anyway, isn't the remaster a bit old :P20:09
geburah:D20:09
theunixgeekjhutchins: :)20:10
geburahtheunixgeek: you shuld be able to update from repositories20:10
xoqaare there plans for a port of konq-plugins to kde4 soon?20:10
claydohtheunixgeek: there is a hardy RC disc for KDE4-only install20:10
* xoqa wants a restore feature 20:10
geburahapt-get update ; apt-get upgrade20:10
geburahas root20:10
jhutchinsxoqa: Install a backup package and use it.20:10
theunixgeekclaydoh: again, it keeps dropping me to a busybox shell20:10
geburahor use sudo20:10
DiViN3Wizard: wats the url for pastebin.ca20:10
jhutchinsbenjamin_: progress?20:10
benjamin_jhutchins: still no sound20:11
geburahWizard: I think i know what the problem is20:11
theunixgeekI'll try the remaster CD20:11
xoqaumm.. there's a backup package for konqueror-kde4? :P no way20:11
claydohtheunixgeek: then a server gutsy install disk, no gui, then add the repos and install kde420:11
geburahi have no drivers loaded for this RAID controller20:11
xoqafor the open tabs that is20:11
benjamin_jhutchins we had sound on the live cd20:11
theunixgeekis there a torrent for the kde 4 remaster?20:11
ShishKababHi! I want to help a friend install his Ubuntu Server.... I have SSH access. I there any way he could watch what I'm doing?20:11
jhutchinsbenjamin_: sudo cat /boot/vmlinuz<tab> > /dev/dsp20:12
claydohtheunixgeek: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/RC/Kubuntu#head-7278e1b8b1ee7a1bfff91a03418e4ee371ddbcdb20:12
jhutchinsbenjamin_: Should make noise.  Ctrl-C to stop.20:12
theunixgeekclaydoh: I keep telling you, the Hardy CDs keep dropping me to a busybox shell!20:12
claydohtheunixgeek: cancel that bad link20:12
benjamin_got no noise20:13
jhutchinsbenjamin_: but alsamixer is good.  Hm.  Hardware check time.20:13
jhutchinsbenjamin_: Speakers plugged in correctly and turned on and up.20:13
benjamin_jhutchins yeah, and the hardware was working yesterday when this was a murdersoft box20:14
claydohtheunixgeek: then as i said, the only way currently to get a Gutsy only kde4 is a server install of ubunru (no gui) then add the kde4 repos and install that way20:14
jhutchinsbenjamin_: That was yesterday, worth checking.20:14
claydohafaik20:14
DiViN3Wizard: i hv paste it already20:14
benjamin_jhutchins all the pretty lights are on20:14
theunixgeekclaydoh: ok20:14
jhutchinsbenjamin_: is kmix running (speaker icon in systray)?20:14
benjamin_jhutchins kmix is up20:15
jhutchinsbenjamin_: Try playing something, open kmix and move the ballance off of center.20:15
claydohtheunixgeek: but it migh be worth it to see if there are any fixes/etc for your hardy problem20:15
benjamin_jhutchins I've been using dapper and there normall is a little green light at the top of kmix in the kicker now there's a blue squiggle is that supposed to be there20:15
theunixgeekthe live cd for hardy keeps dropping me to a busybox shell. how do I fix this?20:16
jhutchinsHm.  Open kmix and see what it looks like.20:16
benjamin_there's no green dot on top of pcm20:16
claydohtheunixgeek: dunno, maybe a forum search ? (depends on your hardware probably)20:16
jhutchinstheunixgeek: check md5sum of iso & cd.20:17
claydohtheunixgeek: also try an alternate install...text-based non-live cd20:17
claydohhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/rc/20:17
claydohkubuntu-kde4-8.04-rc-alternate-i386.iso20:17
theunixgeekjhutchins: works fine in an emulator :P20:17
DiViN3Wizard : so any resolutions to this issue20:17
knulfinewould someone tell me the german channel please?20:18
benjamin_jhutchins20:18
benjamin_jhutchins fixed the problem20:18
ubuntuhello20:18
claydohknulfine: #kubuntu-de iirc20:18
ubuntui am currently using the Kubuntu live CD20:18
knulfinethanks20:18
benjamin_jhutchins appearently I cannot tell the difference between an on green light in kmix and an off light20:18
benjamin_we're good now20:19
benjamin_thanks for the help20:19
ubuntui have 2 problems: 1_ Konqueror doesn't connect to the internet , 2_ i have 2 partitions of roughly the same size, i don't know which is which :/ how can i know ? (i want a duel boot, meaning that i must know which one i want to"cut")20:20
=== ubuntu is now known as blackmail
blackmailhas anyone got an idea ?20:21
rootlinuxusrwhat's the issue?20:21
blackmailis sda1 always C:\ on windows?20:21
ShishKababHi! I want to help a friend install his Ubuntu Server.... I have SSH access. I there any way he could watch what I'm doing?20:21
blackmaili have 2 problems: 1_ Konqueror doesn't connect to the internet , 2_ i have 2 partitions of roughly the same size, i don't know which is which :/ how can i know ? (i want a duel boot, meaning that i must know which one i want to"cut")20:21
blackmailthat's the problem rootlinuxusr20:21
blackmaili'm on the LiveCD20:22
rootlinuxusrbut you have one that has windows installed?20:22
rootlinuxusrthen look through the ones in /media and look for Windows, Program Files, etc...20:22
blackmailyeah, my C:\ has windows (same disk, but 3 parts on it, one with vista, one for data, and one for restauration files)20:22
rootlinuxusrremove the vista install =/20:23
rootlinuxusrxD20:23
blackmailhuh ? how do i do that? i want to cut G:\ , but i don't know if it's sda1 or sdz220:23
blackmailsda2*20:23
rootlinuxusrbut yes under /media look for the stereotypical windows files.20:23
blackmailthere isn't anything in /media :/20:24
blackmaili haven't installed linux yet, i'm on the liveCD.20:24
blackmailso how can i differenciate the two partitions ? (is partition the right word for it ?)20:25
rootlinuxusryeah20:25
rootlinuxusrumm... are you on KDE org GDE?20:26
rootlinuxusror*20:26
blackmailactually, i think i know which partition G:\ is20:26
blackmailKDE20:26
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: you mean GNOME ?20:26
emilsedghwhat is GDE?20:26
rootlinuxusryeah the gnome desktop environment20:26
rootlinuxusrkde desktop environment20:26
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: um, no20:26
l0mrwhello. has anyone managed to use camcorder as mic, if connected via usb?20:26
rootlinuxusrno u.20:26
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: GNU Object Model Environment20:26
rootlinuxusreh, up for interpretation..20:27
blackmailoh oh20:27
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: and it's the K Desktop Environment20:27
blackmaili think i just bugged20:27
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: not KDE Desktop Environment20:27
rootlinuxusryes, but could you not also say the KDE D. E.?20:27
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: that would be wrong20:27
rootlinuxusrdoes that not also = KDE.20:27
theunixgeekit's the K D.E. :P20:28
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: yeah, but it's not the right way to say it20:28
blackmailisn't the installer supposed to partition at the end of the thing ? i started partition or something20:28
rootlinuxusrso i forgot a modifier...sue me20:28
rootlinuxusrxD20:28
blackmailso i tried to quit, now it's not responding :/20:28
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: http://kde.org/whatiskde/20:28
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GALIN^^?20:28
theunixgeekrootlinuxusr: "KDE or the K Desktop Environment, is a ..... "20:28
blackmailguys ... how do i shutdown an application by force ?20:29
rootlinuxusrps -aux20:29
blackmailthe linux installer bugged :/20:29
blackmailhuh ?20:29
rootlinuxusror xkill20:29
rootlinuxusrand click on it20:29
rootlinuxusrfrom Terminal.20:29
blackmaildoesn't xkill turn off the graphics mode ?20:30
SlimeyPeteno20:30
rootlinuxusrxkill just lets you click on an x application and kill it20:30
rootlinuxusrnot the x server.20:30
blackmailoh ok :)20:30
blackmailthanks20:31
rootlinuxusrthat would be kill -9 Xorg20:31
rootlinuxusror is it xorg? damn case-sensitivity...20:31
l0mrwany chance to tream audio from webcam/camcorder?20:31
blackmailnow the install program won't load :D20:32
deepfreezHi, i running kubuntu and i need a software for connecting my Phone Nokia S65 with usb a computer ( for add music , video , theme , etc )20:32
deepfreezhowq can tell me a soft20:32
blackmaildeepfreez: did you look on kde-apps ?20:32
deepfreezi use gnome20:32
rootlinuxusrwrong channel then20:33
metbsdanyone suggest a digital camera20:33
rootlinuxusrhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=8qI&q=read+nokia+phones+ubuntu&btnG=Search20:33
blackmailrootlinuxusr:20:33
blackmailthe install won't load now that i killed it, how do i set it back ?20:33
WizardDiViN3: give me the link :D20:34
deepfreezblackmail, can you help me?20:34
blackmaildeepfreez: probably not :D20:34
blackmail,ever installer linux yet ><20:34
blackmailnever*20:34
deepfreezpfff20:35
rootlinuxusrdeepfreez, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740&highlight=obexserver20:35
blackmailrootlinuxusr: you there ?20:35
rootlinuxusrsecond link from that google page...20:35
deepfreezi don't have Bluetooth20:35
blackmailor anyone that know how to restart a program that i earlier killed20:35
rootlinuxusrlook for the program terminal20:35
rootlinuxusr!terminal20:35
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:35
DiViN3Wizard : the link is http://pastebin.ca/98982020:36
blackmailwhat do you mean ?i just killed the install thing for Kubuntu (i'm on the liveCD) , and i can't reopen it anymore20:36
rootlinuxusri know. i'm trying to make sure it's killed.20:36
antonio_hola20:36
rootlinuxusrthe other option, since it's a liveCD, is to just reboot20:36
blackmailthere must be a simpler way to just reopen something right ?20:37
blackmailsurely20:37
antonio_quien vive?20:37
rootlinuxusrthere might be an install icon in the K menu20:37
WizardDiViN3: could you paste more?20:38
Wizardit doesn't say anything20:38
blackmailbut it there's the little mouse icon saying it's loading, then it just disappears20:38
rootlinuxusrtry this, press ctrl-alt-backspace, it'll reboot without rebooting.... just reloads the X server...all the programs should be able to restart...20:39
blackmailok i'll try20:39
* ubuntu_ is trying20:40
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blackmailnot working >_<20:40
blackmaili'm scared i messed up my hard drive :/20:40
=== mwilliams is now known as linuxguymarshall
DiViN3Wizard : I hv paste the entire log when i type make in psybnc20:40
DiViN3Wizard: Plz view it thanks20:41
blackmaili'll try rebooting20:41
AnnirakI'm trying to get a via Rhine based ethernet card working under ubuntu 7.10.  The makefile that came with the card is broken and I can't find the package I need.  Which package contains the Via Rhine driver?20:45
AnnirakTheSheep: Sorry, I'm not very good with BitchX, I thought i was in a different channel.20:46
geburahWizard: I found taht in VIA Arena tehy keep drivers for lots of OSs including ubuntu20:46
geburahhttp://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3270&SubCatID=14320:46
geburahso my problem has a solution20:46
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blackmailok so intall hhing reworking20:50
blackmailthing*20:50
blackmailerm ok so , i am creating a logical partition20:52
blackmailmount point is /  right ?20:52
blackmailanyone ?20:53
WizardDiViN3: i did20:53
Wizardbut i don't know what's wrong20:53
Wizardseems that i t does not load some header file20:53
blackmailhello ? anyone ?20:53
blackmaili want to create my linux partition, being a logical one, is the moint point / ?20:54
nosrednaekimblackmail: yes20:54
blackmailok, and another problem20:54
blackmailkonqueror doesn't connect to any website20:54
blackmailfor some reason20:54
blackmailanyone know why ?20:55
nosrednaekimthats because of knetwork manager (if the rest of your internet stuff works)20:55
kkathmanblackflag:  can you connect with firefox or get mail?20:55
blackmailnosrednaekim: how can i solve this problem ?20:55
blekoshi, would my system be slower if i install multiple window managers?20:56
adudehas anyone here used xvidcap?20:56
kkathmanblekos:  you mean ubuntu and kubuntu ?20:56
nosrednaekimblekos: no20:57
blekosi mean xfce20:57
nosrednaekimblackmail: are you using wireless?20:57
kkathmanblekos:  you basically are only running one at a time anyway20:57
kkathmanso no it wouldnt be slower or faster really20:57
blackmailnosrednaekim: yes20:57
blekosi c, i know that it gets slower if i run eg gnome applications in kde cause it has to load the appropriate libs20:58
scifihi guys, other than the screen brightness options, does kubuntu have any other power management features???20:58
kkathmanblekos:  right, if you run only gnome stuff, it might be a tad faster, but maybe not even noticeable20:58
blekosi c20:58
blekosthnx20:58
blackmailnosrednaekim: does the fact that i use wireless change anythng ?20:59
kkathmanblekos:  its really what apps your are running that makes the diff20:59
nosrednaekimblackmail: ah, ok, go into system settings-> advanced->service manager and stop the Internet Status Daemon20:59
scifianyone?20:59
nosrednaekimNetwork Status Daemon that is...20:59
blackmailok thanks20:59
nosrednaekimblackmail: if you weren't, I'd just say get rid of Knetworkmanager20:59
kkathmanscifi:  yes, load and run kpowersave20:59
* Wizard wanders off21:00
Wizardo/21:00
blackmailok works fine now21:00
blackmailthanks a lot nosrednaekim21:00
scifikkathman: i dont actually have kubuntu installed, i was thinking of installing it on a laptop to replace vista21:00
scifikkathman: what options does kpowersave allow?21:00
kkathmanscifi:  yes, kpowersave is really meant for laptops actually21:01
jhutchinskkathman: really actually?21:01
kkathmanscifi:  it allows profiles that you can set for display, drive shut downs, etc21:01
blackmailnosrednaekim: last question21:01
blackmaili have a couple of partitions, i want linux on one of them, i created a logical partition that is /21:01
blackmaildo i have to create the /swap and /home right now ?21:02
jhutchinsblackmail: What's the goal?21:02
DiViN3Wizard: so wats the resolutions to resolve that problem21:02
kkathmanjhutchins:  well, kpowersave is more or less worthless on a desktop - its not even installed by default21:02
scifikkathman: does it allow cpu usage settings, like low power usage when doing less processor intensive tasks and more power for more intensive tasks?21:02
jhutchinsblackmail: What's the goal?21:02
blackmailjhutchins erm just installing linux (to have a dualboot vista/linux)21:03
kkathmanscifi:  not that I recall on the cpu21:03
kkathmanscifi:  its more for hard drive, display and those kinds of things - I dont recall any "cpu" settings tho21:03
jhutchinsblackmail: Well, you have to have /, that's where everything else goes except swap.  swap is reccomeneded, but doesn't get mounted.  Some people like to split out /boot and/or /home, I don't.  If you do, space you need will always be on the wrong partition.  Do backups.21:04
scifiok hmm, i just wonder if id get the same battery life as vista does21:04
kkathmanscifi:  hmm, I would imagine it would be better, but thats just a guess21:04
jhutchinsblackmail: So this machine just has swap and root (/).21:04
blackmailjhutchins so i have to have : / and /swap  as different partitions ?21:04
blackmaildoes that mean that the logical partition mustn't be mounted as /,  but having inside it / and /swap21:05
blackmail?21:05
scifikkathman: ok thats encouraging, i think the new kde4 pretty much has every feature of vista, its just the power management i wasnt sure about21:05
jhutchinsblackmail: swap, not /swap.  Should be.  You can do a swap file on /, but it's non-standard.  Easier to just make a 1G swap partition.21:05
kkathmanscifi:  kde4 would get you well along the way, yes21:06
serenityhi21:06
serenitywhere can i find the oxygen icons in my kde4 installation?21:06
blackmailjhutchins erm ok, but what do i put as the mount point for the logical partition ?21:06
blackmailnothing ?21:06
jhutchinsscifi: Actually, there's quite a lot missing from kde4, and it's not terribly stable.21:06
jhutchinsblackmail: For swap?  Nothing.21:06
blackmailjhutchins i want to create one logical partition, in which i will have two partitions, / and swap21:07
scifijhutchins: not stable, in what way exactly?21:07
blackmailextended partition*21:07
kkathmanscifi:  I agree with jhutchins on that... kde4 is still buggy and its not "done" yet.. You might try kde 3.5.8 etc, with compiz-fusion for the eye candy21:07
jhutchinsscifi: as in sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.21:07
jhutchinsblackmail: DO you mean extended partition?  What are you using for "logical partitions"?21:08
scifihmmm ok, does 3.5.8 allow you to add widgest like the clock etc on the dekstop?21:08
kkathmanIm not particularly fond of dolphin as a file manager either21:08
serenitywhere can i find the oxygen icons in my kde4 installation?21:08
scifiwidgets*21:08
kkathmanscifi:  yes, you can use superkaramba to do things like that21:08
jhutchinsscifi: xclock and rclock21:08
blackmailjhutchins well , i have my windows partition (primary), my restoration one, my data one, and i want an extended partition with every linux partition on it21:09
scifiit was also the krunner app of kde4 that attrected me, being able to type in app names like in vistas search21:09
scifii guess 3.5.8 doesnt have this?21:09
blackmailwhen i create a partition on the free space, i have "Logical or Primary", so i guess logical = extended jhutchins21:09
kkathmanscifi:  Alt F2 gets you the same thing21:09
scificool21:10
jhutchinsblackmail: ... and your question is?  That's how you partition a drive for an MS system, three primaries, then a logical, then as many extendeds as you want (I'm sure there's a limit).21:10
scifii just looked up kpowersave and it does allow cpu settings too :D21:10
kkathmanscifi:  and thats in any 3.521:10
adudedoes anybody know of a video screen capture program?21:10
kkathmanscifi:  excellent21:10
jhutchinsblackmail: Some OS's don't have problems with more than four primaries, but I haven't followed that up lately (since I only need two).21:10
blackmailjhutchins ok thanks21:10
scifikkathman: looks very promising then, may as well wait for the kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 rock solid?21:11
kkathmanscifi:  might not be a bad idea, yes... keep you from installing and then upgrading21:12
epimethscifi: you can install it now, too.  it comes out of beta any day now21:12
kkathmanscifi:  or you can get the beta I guess and then do the patches as they come out21:13
jhutchinsscifi: Always best to wait for the actual release unless you plan to be part of the testing bugreport process.21:13
jhutchinsscifi: If your purpose is to do work with the computer, stick with releases and don't be tempted to think "beta" means "latest and greatest" - it doesn't.21:13
scifii'll wait, i havent even got the laptop yet, this is all just theory at the moment21:13
kkathmanscifi:  good idea21:14
epimethscifi: in that case, come back when you get the new lappy :-)21:14
scifiunfortunately most laptops come pre-installed with vista, but theres no way i'll be keeping it on there21:14
blackmailjhutchins i can't get to access the extended partitio/n to put the swap and / in it, it kinda assumes it's already21:15
blackmailalready /21:15
jhutchinsscifi: I would recommend you get one that the XP "downgrade" is at least available for, it's easier to find drivers.21:15
kkathmanscifi:  I think you can still get a Dell lappy with ubuntu on it21:15
scifii dabbled with ubuntu then kubuntu a couple of years ago on my older desktop and liked it, hence my return here :)21:15
jhutchinsblackmail: If you've created an extended partition, it's a partition.  If you have the first logical partition, it's a place to put extendeds.   What tool are you trying to use?21:16
blackmailjhutchins i'm using the manual partitioner , in the Kubuntu installer program21:16
scifii was looking at a "nearly new" samsung q45 on ebay, but it has vista on it, i was thinking i cud just reformat and install a linux distro :)21:17
blackmailthe logical partition is assumed as /21:17
blackmaili don't get it21:17
blackmaili'll start from scratch, i have the free space, and i want one whole linux partition21:17
epimeththe problem is that you're still paying for vista, so the price goes up21:18
blackmaili gotta make it logical, with all the free space, and put two partitions in it, right?21:18
scifii always found kde easier to use than gnome, even simple tasks like creating shortcuts for apps required a terminal command in gnome, whereas kde was just a right click option21:18
blackmailso, jhutchins, how do i get the partitioner to understand that the logical partition must contain two others21:18
blackmail?21:18
epimethblackmail: you create an extended with the whole space and then create logicals inside it21:19
blackmailepimeth: but there isn't any "extended" option ?!21:20
blackmailor i can't see it :s21:20
blackmailwhen i click New Partition, i've got Logical or Primary21:20
blackmailnot Extended21:20
jhutchinsblackmail: Just create the two partitions, don't worry about it.21:21
blackmailjhutchins but i already have 3 primaries21:21
epimethblackmail: so create two logicals, they will both go into the same extended21:21
blackmailthat won't do the trick21:21
scifii guess the kubuntu cd will be able to do all the partitioning, formatting and installing for me, can it delete existing partitions too?21:21
blackmailepimeth: erm ok21:21
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scifiNTFS partitions i mean?21:22
jhutchinsscifi: It can delete 'em, not sure if it can resize them.  I think it uses gparted, which can.  Make backups if you have something you want to keep.21:22
blackmailerm, installer kinda bugged again, not responding ><21:22
epimethscifi: the cd just uses regular partitioning software, so yes21:23
jhutchinsscifi: If you just want to delete the NTFS, no sweat, it can do that.21:23
jhutchinsepimeth: uses gparted, doesn't it?21:23
blackmailerm guys21:23
blackmailhow do i get the installer reworking ? >_< it doesn't respond anymore21:24
scifihaha, i remember gparted froma  couple of years ago :)21:24
epimethjhutchins: I think so... I honestly didn't care enough to check21:24
jhutchinsblackmail: It's not clear to me what you're really trying to do. You might try deleting the partitions so there's just free space, then restart the installer and let it autopartition. You can look at what it did and figure it out from there.21:24
epimethblackmail: there might be something wrong with the disk?  try burning it again21:24
scifijhutchins: ye i wud want it to delete the vista ntfs partitions and then create the linux partitiond, think they called ex2 or soemthing arent they?21:25
epimethblackmail: I've had problems, myself21:25
blackmailerm i don't know really now21:25
epimethscifi: ext3, actually...21:25
scifithats the one :)21:25
blackmailjhutchins well i have a few primary partitions that i need to keep + free space, i want to turn the free space in an extended partition, for linux21:25
ubuntu_newbie questions welcome here? :p21:26
=== ubuntu_ is now known as [Matt]
epimethscifi: I haven't used ext2 in like 5 years at least... Was using reiserfs for a while, it was pretty good.  but I'm very happy with ext321:26
blackmailepimeth: i think the disc is fine21:26
=== [Matt] is now known as fartbandit
fartbandit:D21:26
epimethblackmail: so try restarting again....21:26
TeslaTonyfartbandit: of course. Now providing useful answers...21:26
fartbandit:>21:27
* epimeth sprays air freshener all over fartbandit21:27
scifiok thanks for all the advice guys, might see u again in a couple of weeks with my kubuntu lappy :D21:27
fartbanditlooking for a guide on manual installation on remaining unpartitioned space21:27
blackmailepimeth: i xkilled the installation program, now it won't open anymore >__<''21:27
fartbanditor at least help in doing so21:27
epimethfartbandit: insert disk, read directions on screen :-21:28
epimethblackmail: what installation program?21:28
blackmailthe linux installation program21:28
blackmaili'm using the liveCD21:28
sigma_1234htc-linux21:28
scifi....fergot, one last question, is wi-fi easy to setup/reliable in kubuntu?21:28
blackmailscifi: i'm using it right now21:28
fartbanditcomplete newbie here to linux but im having a crack at setting up a triboot vista xp kubuntu system from 2 disks21:28
jhutchinsblackmail: It's not clear to me what you're really trying to do. You might try deleting the partitions so there's just free space, then restart the installer and let it autopartition. You can look at what it did and figure it out from there.21:28
greeghi gang.21:28
scifikewl, laters21:29
epimethahoy greeg!21:29
fartbanditepimeth manual install isnt that easy :p21:29
blackmailjhutchins there isn't an autopartition option :/ it's either "all the disk" or "manual" :/21:29
greegim aware that for all linux systems there is only one / dir.  but i also want to install an other distro of experimental purposes.21:29
greeghow do i do this?21:29
fartbanditim avoiding the eautomated install as the only options seem to want to write over my xp and vista installs21:29
jhutchinsWell, that's dumb.21:30
fartbandit-e21:30
blackmailjhutchins i , erm, know.21:30
jhutchinsAre you sure you had free space?  There should be a "use free space" option.21:30
algyzhow to write floppy .img image?21:30
epimethfartbandit: fartbandit??? not when I installed it....21:30
jhutchinsalgyz: dd if=<file> of=/dev/fd021:30
blackmailjhutchins i do after i made some with the partitionning thing21:30
blackmailGparted or whatever21:30
SperMitegnome or kde which is the road i shall take?21:31
blackmaili didn't have freespace before21:31
jhutchinsblackmail: so restart and see if it gives you a 'free space' option.21:31
algyzjhutchins thx guy :)21:31
blackmailerm, ok jhutchins21:31
epimethSperMite: I prefer KDE... in fact, you're in the *K*ubuntu channel, so most of us do21:31
adudehow do you remove a program from the command line?21:31
fartbanditim getting no option otherwise here.... however ive used the vista partition tool to set up 8gb of free space on my 2nd disk for a crack at a manual install21:31
jhutchinsadude: use the apt tools or aptitude, don't just delete it.21:32
SperMiteepimeth why do you prefer kde?21:32
adudeok21:32
fartbandithas anyone here used the manual install to set up an ubuntu distro??21:33
jhutchinsadude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto21:33
jhutchinsfartbandit: Yes, it's been a while.21:33
fartbanditjust need a swap and main partition on the remaining 7gb of space21:34
jhutchinsfartbandit: So kubuntu doesn't give you the option to use all the free space, even when it's there?21:34
SperMitei'm running gnome. but im just not diggin it21:34
fartbandithowever im unsure of the exact settings i need21:34
jhutchinsfartbandit: Give it a shot.  Need about 1G for swap, the rest for data.  Usually the installers like the data to be first, the swap last.21:35
jhutchinsfartbandit: some of them don't care.21:35
Daisuke_Idoback to square one for a good usenet binary downloader :\21:36
fartbanditkk creating partition21:36
DiViN3can i know wats the command to update kubuntu thru shell21:36
fartbandittype for the new partition? primary or logical?21:37
fartbanditforgive my linux iiignorance :p21:37
jhutchinsDiViN3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto21:39
jhutchinsDaisuke_Ido: pan, klibido both do nzb's.21:39
fartbanditgot 7762 space here total unpartitioned for the install21:39
algyzjhutchins dd: writing to `/dev/fd0': Input/output error  two flopies in a row :(21:39
theuser1 Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude) ........   i dont have any other runing. i have checked that in ksysguard too. what can i do ?21:40
algyzActually I'm trying to boot pcbsd (without great success) :(21:40
Admiral_Chicagotheuser1: i would make sure nothing is using it for sure21:40
theuser1Admiral_Chicago how21:41
Admiral_Chicagopstree in konsole should let you know21:41
fartbanditfor my first partition.....   partition type primary? 6738mb (leaves 1024 for swap)? location for partition begining? use as = ext3? and mount point = what?21:41
jhutchinsfartbandit: /21:41
fartbanditkk and just go with that?21:42
abkillHow do I enable interactive logins for root?21:43
fartbanditand what now for the swap?  type for partition = what? logical? partition size 10249(all my remaining space)? location for partition - end? use as - swap? mount point = / again?21:45
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blackmailjhutchins seems ok21:45
fartbandit-9 :p21:45
blackmail40%21:45
algyzfartbandit:  partition /swap :)21:45
fartbanditoh21:46
fartbanditslap me :p21:46
* blackmail Slaps fartbandit.21:46
fartbandit:)21:46
blackmailfartbandit: that's a nice nickname21:46
fartbanditthe main partition is just / though? thats ok?21:46
algyzjhutchins third floppy gave dd: writing to `/dev/fd0': Input/output error  :(21:47
fartbanditapt nickname for me tbh :s21:47
fartbanditand now my install has hung due tio a mislick :(21:48
fartbanditbrb21:48
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fartbanditback21:56
fartbanditwhat settings are needed on manual install for a swap partition?21:56
gon!ati21:57
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:57
fartbandit!manual21:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about manual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:57
fartbanditbooo :(21:57
fartbanditinstall progressing :<22:02
hibanafartbandit » see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq22:02
fartbanditanyone use WINE?22:03
DiViN3can i know how to reinstall kubuntu without using cd22:04
theuser1how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?22:05
Pepsi!packs22:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about packs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:05
DiViN3!psybnc22:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about psybnc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:06
fartbanditspecifically anyone use WINE and has an ATI card?22:06
DiViN3!shell22:06
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:06
DiViN3!eggdrop22:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eggdrop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:06
DiViN3!compiler22:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)22:06
jussio1!msgthebot | DiViN322:06
ubotuDiViN3: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.22:06
payam-hi22:09
blackmailguys, the installation seems blocked at 90 % :/22:10
theuser1how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?22:10
payamI need som program Like Microsoft Frontpage for my linux! does anybody know some good program?22:10
blackmailit says "loading usb-storage module for USB storage"22:10
payamI need som program Like Microsoft Frontpage for my linux! does anybody know some good program?22:11
blackmailguys, the installation seems blocked at 90 % :/22:11
blackmailit says "loading usb-storage module for USB storage"22:11
payamI need som program Like Microsoft Frontpage for my linux! does anybody know some good program?22:11
blackmailanyone have an idea ?!22:11
blackmailjhutchins ? epimeth ?22:11
payamI need som program Like Microsoft Frontpage for my linux! does anybody know some good program?22:11
payamI need som program Like Microsoft Frontpage for my linux! does anybody know some good program?22:12
blackmailstop flooding.22:12
payami need a answer22:12
hibanapayam » you can try either Bluefish or Quanta... see which one you like22:12
payamwight?22:12
payamI need some design program not Code program22:12
blackmailtry wysiwyg linux in google22:13
Pliskinpayam : yes, there is a good program : learning HTML/CSS22:13
scarygaryWhat's the best Video conferencing software for linux?22:13
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payami knew a lot about HTMl and CSS but im tired of so sick programs22:13
payamIt takes a lot of time22:13
_sourcemakerdoes kwallet stores the passwords and sensitive data encrypted, when no password is provided? If so, which encryption method is used?22:13
theuser1 how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?22:13
payamGive me a good program22:14
Pliskinpayam : NVu ?22:15
theuser1!!22:15
payamPliskin: what is NVu?22:15
blackmailmy Jubuntu install is still blocke % ><22:15
blackmailpayam: fucjing google it man22:16
blackmail-j+k22:16
blackmailkubuntu install is still blocked @ 90 % *22:16
Pliskintheuser1 : there is a program which started automatically by ubuntu, but I forgot its name22:16
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jussio1scarygary: skype works well22:17
payamPliskin: Do you hink i can find it in Kubuntu System or should i download it fron Internet?22:17
hibanapayam » there's really nothing that beats knowing the code... and Frontpage has never been a good program in my book... Dreamweaver is good though but I don't know a Linux replacement for it22:17
payamHibana: No You cant install Dreamwever on linux and i m not really in the mood for instal wine22:18
Pliskinpayam : I didn't find it in the ubuntu repository22:18
payamso i take the NVu . it seems be a good shit22:18
Pliskinit's a mozilla program but maybe is under windows only22:18
jussio1!ohmy | payam22:18
ubotupayam: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:18
payamPliskin: do you think that NVu is good? some problems?22:19
Pliskinit's a WYSIWYG22:19
Pliskinso, you will find it good22:20
theuser1how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?  complete command to check sda6 ?22:20
jussio1payam: also have a look at quanta +22:21
payamis it a design program or code?22:22
jussio1!info quanta+22:22
ubotuPackage quanta+ does not exist in gutsy22:22
jussio1hrm22:22
jussio1!info quanta22:22
ubotuquanta (source: kdewebdev): web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2385 kB, installed size 5744 kB22:22
_sourcemakeris there a firefox plugin for kwallet?22:23
payamnot anough info22:23
payamIs it a  code program or desing?22:23
_myrtille_theuser1: i think you may chekc your disk with fsck, but i'm not sure if it supports every format22:23
jussio1payam: its a wysiwyg22:24
theuser1_myrtille_  how.22:24
Pliskinman fsck22:25
hibanapayam » See: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/22:25
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payamQt3 designer?22:28
payamwhat do you think about that then?22:29
scarygaryjussio: Skype is ok, but not for a video conference between two groups of people.22:29
payamSkyp doesnt have any video confenece?22:29
jussio1scarygary: why not?22:30
jussio1oh, you mean as in more than 2 cameras, yes of course22:30
payamI need a program which is the same as Visual basic! Anybody know? jussio: Skype dosnt have video conferens as i know22:30
jussio1payam: what exactly are you trying to do?22:32
payamI need a program like VIsual basic beace i  have a cours in the school22:34
jussio1payam: dualboot or wine. if you just need an IDE, then use kdevelop, eclipse or anjuta22:36
jussio1!ide22:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:36
virenhi tthere, how can i install samba for kubuntu22:37
hibanaviren » aptitude install samba22:38
hibanasee also: aptitude show samba22:39
virenwhats the difference between nfs and samba22:40
nnckhi22:40
jussio1hi nnck22:40
hibanaviren » Samba is a collection of programs that implements the Server Message Block (SMB) protocol22:41
Alphageek_I'm having major problems with an HP Pavilion I'm trying to put Kubuntu on.22:41
hibananfs is a filesystem22:41
hibanaoops ... wrong22:42
jussio1Alphageek_: whats up?22:42
nnckI just installd kubuntu and it asked me for localhost login i typed root and I dont know how to boot to the graphical interface22:44
hibanaviren » see: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2000-June/019414.html22:45
jussio1nnck: when you installed it would have asked you to put in a user and password22:46
jussio1use those22:46
nnckjussi01 i didnt put anything22:46
Alphageek_I'm trying to drop Kubuntu on this HP Pavilion, it's got an Nvidia Geforce 7900 gs and neither boot options are working on the standard installation disc.22:46
nncki used alternative install because desktop didnt work for me.. usng ps3 btw22:46
jussio1nnck: the installer asks you, are you absolutely certain?22:47
Alphageek_Also, something called apic causes a kernel panic, so I disabled it.22:47
nnckjussi01 yes it didnt actually get to the user name password section22:48
nnckbecause there was an error while installing I had to reboot and select install base system22:49
Alphageek_Anyone have any ideas?22:49
nnckto be able to continue the installation22:49
nnckit says Ubuntu 7.10 localhost tty1 localhost login:22:50
jussio1nnck: #ubuntu-ppc :)22:51
nnckthanks22:52
KetrelIs there any way to make Compiz not autostart Emerald when it starts?23:14
KetrelI've been told it's an *ubuntu thing.23:14
DNC_005Ketrel: why would you not what emerald to start?23:21
DNC_005emerald is compiz's window manager23:21
Ketrelalso kde-window-decorator23:22
KetrelI want to have the option.23:22
DNC_005so you want to start compiz manually every time?23:23
DNC_005fusion-icon will let you pick the window decorator you want23:24
KetrelI don't have fusion-icon yet23:25
Ketreland I do start it manually each time.23:25
Ketrelbut I have it bound to a key combo23:26
neverhello23:27
neverno one on?23:29
PhilRodnever: if you've got a question, just ask23:30
PhilRodand if anyone knows, they'll answer23:30
* PhilRod should learn the bot factoid for that23:30
neverhow the hell do u install kubunto23:33
nevertu*23:33
neversorry23:33
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PhilRodput the livecd in your computer, boot it up, wait for a minute, then click on install. Follow the instructions23:34
virenhow can i share stuff that is not in the home folder23:37
DNC_005make a symlink?23:37
virensorry im new to kubuntu...23:37
DNC_005what do you mean by share?23:38
vireni want to share a folder that is on a mounted drive23:38
virenso i can access for xp machine23:38
DNC_005oh, i'm not good with that kind of thing, have a look at the ubuntu forums23:38
DNC_005http://www.xawk.com/ubuntu-samba-basics.html23:39
DNC_005viren: that link might help23:40
virendnc_005 no luck23:43
vireni can only share teh home folder23:43
DNC_005what folder do you want to share?23:43
PeterFADNC_005, I like sandwiches.23:43
DNC_005PeterFA: ???23:44
virena music folder that is on another partition23:44
PeterFADNC_005, I like sandwiches.23:44
stdinPeterFA: why did you say that exactly?23:46
stdinand the answer "I don't know" is wrong23:46
PeterFAstdin, I like sandwiches.23:46
stdinand so was that23:46
DNC_005ln -s /place/where/music/is/thisfolder  /home/user/shared/.  << thisfolder is the folder where your music is, and shared is a new folder you can make to share23:46
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blekoscould u tell me how i can associate files to open with specific programs?23:50
prince_jammys!defaultapp23:51
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"23:51
spookylukeyupgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu do not work work me -- I don't get a 'Version upgrade' button.  Any ideas?23:51
stdinspookylukey: hardy isn't out yet, ask in #ubuntu+!23:52
stdin #ubuntu+123:52
blekosand in dolphin??23:52
stdinblekos: right click -> open with ?23:53
spookylukeycheers stdin23:53
stdinblekos: there's a 'remember' check box23:53
blekosi c thnx23:54
virenhow can i access ,y kubuntu shares from windows23:59

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