[03:18] <inkynoob> virtualroadside: Are you running UME on an eeePC by chance?
[03:18] <virtualroadside> no
[03:19] <virtualroadside> its a (relatively) normal PC
[03:19] <virtualroadside> just has a 7in touchscreen
[03:19] <virtualroadside> carputer :)
[03:19] <inkynoob> I see...nice
[03:19] <virtualroadside> http://www.virtualroadside.com/carputer/ 
[03:19] <virtualroadside> er
[03:20] <virtualroadside> http://www.virtualroadside.com/carputer/pictures.html
[03:20] <inkynoob> I'm adding a touchscreen to my eee as soon as it gets here from Taiwn, it's also got a 7inch screen
[03:20] <virtualroadside> ah, nice
[03:20] <virtualroadside> yeah, im liking UME so far... cept for this latest missing-icons bug
[03:21] <inkynoob> I hadn't installed it ever before, so when nothing came up I wondered if I'd missed a step or a program or something
[03:23] <virtualroadside> yeah, its the first really annoying bug i've found so far
[03:23] <virtualroadside> granted, there are a ton of bugs, but the first really annoying one
[03:25] <inkynoob> From what I understand of the bug report, this is an actual problem with hildon-desktop, not just a configuration issue, is that right? 
[03:26] <virtualroadside> yeah
[03:26] <virtualroadside> the daily build does it too
[03:26] <virtualroadside> when i run hildon-desktop in a terminal, it complains that it cannot load libmobilehome.so
[03:26] <virtualroadside> so.. yeah
[03:26] <virtualroadside> that sounds important
[03:26] <virtualroadside> hm
[03:26] <virtualroadside> that gives me a thought
[03:26] <virtualroadside> one sec
[03:30] <virtualroadside> damn
[03:30] <virtualroadside> well
[03:30] <virtualroadside> the file exists, so thats not it
[03:32] <virtualroadside> but, that seems to be the problem, whatever the problem happens to be
[03:32] <inkynoob> Your carputer looks sharp, by the way. That gives me another project to look forward to...when we get a car worth modding :-)
[03:32] <virtualroadside> tnx
[03:33] <virtualroadside> sadly, haven't had it in the car for awhile.. due to software issues
[03:33] <virtualroadside> but, with UME, im hoping to get it back in there soonish
[03:33] <virtualroadside> just gotta get the GPS software working better
[03:33] <inkynoob> I'm going to try this in just a sec, but something as simple as LD_LIBRARY_DIR probably won't help hildon-desktop find the lib, will it? Or maybe wrong permissions on the .so file? 
[03:33] <virtualroadside> nah, like i said, the file exists
[03:34] <virtualroadside> im not really sure why it can't load t
[03:55] <virtualroadside> i think its a bug actually in mobile-basic-flash
[03:55] <virtualroadside> i still dont know why though
[03:55] <virtualroadside> i dont think it implements the right plugin interface
[03:55] <virtualroadside> i have a feeling someone changed around the interfaces, and didn't update *both* hildon-desktop and mobile-basic-flash
[06:06] <inkynoob> virtualroadside: I might be making some progress.  I ran ldd on ﻿libmobilehome.so and there were some libraries it was looking for that it couldn't find. They were actually installed already, so I linked them in /usr/lib, and now I'm getting a segfault from hildon-desktop.
[06:06] <virtualroadside> woo!
[06:06] <virtualroadside> i haven't touched it.. been working on other stuff
[06:08] <virtualroadside> what libraries?
[06:09] <inkynoob> libxul and libsqlite3
[06:09] <virtualroadside> ah
[06:09] <inkynoob> Xulrunner just got version bumped recently I think, maybe it's related
[06:09] <virtualroadside> could be
[06:10] <inkynoob> Do you know what package provides libmobilebasichome.so? It doesn't seem to have debug symbols in it
[06:10] <virtualroadside> yeah, i know
[06:10] <virtualroadside> its mobile-basic-flash
[06:10] <virtualroadside> fyi... you can do dpkg -S <filename> to find out too
[06:10] <inkynoob> ah, forgot about that
[06:11] <inkynoob> There doesn't seem to be a debug version of that package available :-(
[06:11] <virtualroadside> nope, theres not
[06:11] <virtualroadside> is that where it segfaults at?
[06:12] <virtualroadside> i built mine earlier with -g -ggdb ... so i have the symbols installed for that
[06:12] <inkynoob> I'm not terribly good with gdb, but it's either there or in libxul I think
[06:13] <virtualroadside> so all you did was ln -s the libs into usr/lib?
[06:13] <inkynoob> yeah, although the sqlite ones weren't installed. I installed one of the sqlite dev packages and that took care of it
[06:13] <inkynoob> well, of that one
[06:14] <inkynoob> I can't remember exactly what I did, but I dumped my shell history to a file to go over more carefully tomorrow
[06:15] <inkynoob> bad practice...I know :-(
[06:17] <virtualroadside> ah, the sql library is in the xulrunner directory
[06:17] <virtualroadside> as is libxul.so
[06:24] <inkynoob> well, more of this tomorrow I suppose. Have a good night. 
[06:25] <virtualroadside> mmk, nite
[06:25] <virtualroadside> i got the segfault
[06:29] <virtualroadside> aha, you're right.. xul is the culprit
[06:35] <virtualroadside> i'll build xul with debug symbols, and see what happens
[18:23] <rhyhann> Hello
[18:24] <rhyhann> I want to buy a ubuntu mobile compliant device
[18:24] <rhyhann> Is there any slim one ?
[19:48] <Hula> Hi there - I'm having trouble launching some apps in my newly created UM. Galculator and Firefox launches fine, but all other apps fail with "we could not read lowmem stats"
[19:48] <Hula> I have not altered anything in the environment so it should be vanilla.
[21:32] <inkynoob> virtualroadside: Do you know what the next step is in getting this no icons bug resolved? 
[21:33] <virtualroadside> honestly, im not sure... probably need to attract some attention from someone. libxul is rather complex
[21:33] <virtualroadside> but im pretty sure thats why things are borked
[21:34] <inkynoob> Do you think the problem is libxul, or do you think a bad value is being passed into whatever is being called in libxul? 
[21:34] <virtualroadside> i would imagine the second
[21:35] <virtualroadside> but, i dunno
[21:35] <virtualroadside> i tried building with symbols
[21:36] <virtualroadside> however, that didn't work so well
[21:36] <virtualroadside> since apparently it strips them
[21:36] <virtualroadside> lol
[21:36] <inkynoob> I saw that, and was going to look into if there is a way to keep them in
[21:36] <inkynoob> I also upgraded Xulrunner to the nightly build, but the situation is the same
[21:38] <virtualroadside> that reminds me: i was grepping for that.. 
[21:38] <virtualroadside> its in toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk
[21:39] <virtualroadside> *reinstalling again*
[21:43] <virtualroadside> btw
[21:43] <virtualroadside> a shortcut to doing the ln -s stuff for the libraries
[21:43] <virtualroadside> LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9b5" gdb hildon-desktop
[21:45] <virtualroadside> heh, after commenting out the stripping stuff its really borked ;) 
[21:45] <virtualroadside> aha! 
[21:46] <virtualroadside> #0  0xae157348 in EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x855b5b0, aAlreadyRealized=0xbf81d018) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:293
[21:46] <inkynoob> I'm glad that's an 'aha!' for you :-) 
[21:47] <virtualroadside> well, it just means theres a code location :)
[21:47] <inkynoob> EmbedPrivate.cpp, is that XUL stuff? 
[21:47] <virtualroadside> yep
[21:47] <virtualroadside> no idea how to fix it, of course
[21:52] <virtualroadside> mozilla/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp to be more exact
[22:06] <x-Dieu> runs UME on a HTC Prohet?
[22:07] <virtualroadside> ?
[22:10] <x-Dieu> prophet, is a TI Omap 850 cpu with 200 mhz, 128 MB ROM and 64 MB (SDRAM), the HTC Prophet is a smartphone
[22:10] <virtualroadside> ah
[22:10] <virtualroadside> i think UME is a little too heavy for that
[22:10] <x-Dieu> ok :/
[22:11] <virtualroadside> but the final version might not be
[22:11] <virtualroadside> and at the moment, they only have builds for x86 compatible chips, AFAIK
[22:12] <x-Dieu> yes, but not a i386 cpu in the htc prophet
[22:16] <x-Dieu> there are tesing release available for smartphones?
[22:17] <virtualroadside> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
[22:18] <x-Dieu> ok, I read this, thanks a lot virtualroadside