[00:00] <atterdag> I'm not sure whats wrong with my Mythubuntu 8, but it seems that lirc is configure in a 'funny' way. I'm using the IR remote with my Hauppauge Nova T 500; I can use the arrow keys and number keys on the remote, but all other keys is not working. If I just showkeys, I see normal keycodes as if its a normal keyboard keys, but if I try to define the keys inside mythtv, such as trying to bind escape with my back/
[00:00] <atterdag> exit key, MythTV tells me that its an unknown key. I've tried to debug using mode2 and irw, but no codes are displayed when I press any key on my remote.
[00:03] <laga> it's probably handled by something inside the kernel.. seach the mythbuntu forums, you'll likely need the dev/input driver
[00:10] <atterdag> laga: I'm using the devinput driver, but I've also tried the default driver
[00:54] <jumpkick> sigh... my 1080i channels are all green....  anyone seen that before?
[01:39] <pdragon> woot! got spdif working for livetv and videos! :D
[01:53] <superm1> TazgodX, if you get things working well, i'd be interested to hear details
[01:53] <superm1> it's available in my area
[01:56] <TazgodX> im waiting for the new release before i install again
[01:56] <TazgodX> my old mythbox took a dive
[01:56] <superm1> the rc came out today :)
[01:56] <TazgodX> really
[01:56] <TazgodX> ?
[01:56] <TazgodX> guess ill just use that
[01:56] <TazgodX> :)
[01:57] <superm1> http://www.mythbuntu.org/hardyrc
[01:58] <TazgodX> im gonna have to go thru the STB, so now that my box has 3 TV inputs...none of that matters eh?
[01:58] <superm1> well yout STB, what outputs does it have ?
[01:58] <superm1> firewire by chance?
[01:58] <TazgodX> HDMI, compsite, S-Video, RCA
[01:58] <superm1> oh i see
[01:58] <superm1> well then you'll have to be capturing the s-video
[01:58] <TazgodX> hjold on, let me see if there is firewire
[01:59] <superm1> if it does (and it works), then you better believe i'm switching to AT&T
[01:59] <TazgodX> it has USB. but no firewire
[01:59] <superm1> oh boo..
[02:00] <TazgodX> yeah it has coax out too
[02:00] <superm1> no component output though?
[02:00] <TazgodX> thats the red blue green right
[02:00] <TazgodX> yeah it has that
[02:01] <TazgodX> it gets its signal from an ethernet jack
[02:03] <TazgodX> hmmm, visually it has changed from when i was last here
[02:03] <TazgodX> finally don't have to mess with LVMs
[02:03] <TazgodX> :)
[02:04] <superm1> yeah there's been a fair deal of work on artwrok
[02:04] <superm1> i wonder if ATT falls under the FCC mandate for firewire
[02:04] <superm1> if they do, then maybe it's feasible to get a box with one
[02:05] <TazgodX> hold on, let me look at the DVR box downstairs
[02:05] <TazgodX> see if it has one
[02:05] <superm1> but its good that they have component.  when the Hauppauge HD-PVR comes out then can use that
[02:06] <TazgodX> i have a PVR 500 and 350...both garbage now
[02:06] <TazgodX> specially the 500
[02:06] <TazgodX> lol
[02:07] <superm1> why is it garbage?
[02:07] <TazgodX> well i can't get 3 video streams coming out
[02:07] <superm1> just hook up more STB's
[02:07] <TazgodX> of this box
[02:07] <TazgodX> lol
[02:07] <superm1> that's a good point though, my HD home run and HD5000 would be pointless
[02:08] <TazgodX> i mean i can use my 350, but the 500 is useless to me now
[02:08] <superm1> yeah
[02:08] <pdragon> when is the HD-PVR coming out?
[02:08] <superm1> well dont you get like 4 STB's with the plan?
[02:08] <TazgodX> 3
[02:08] <TazgodX> i have 6
[02:08] <TazgodX> lol
[02:08] <superm1> at least when i was investigating, they provided an inordinantly large amount
[02:08] <superm1> damn dude
[02:08] <superm1> so go hook more up to myth
[02:09] <superm1> pdragon, next month
[02:09] <TazgodX> they are all on other TVs
[02:09] <superm1> those tv's should be running myth ;)
[02:09] <TazgodX> ill tell you what, the service of this cable is great
[02:10] <TazgodX> im just disapointed i can't use my mythbox with it like i could normal cable
[02:10] <pdragon> cool
[02:10] <TazgodX> i want to set up a few more PCs for myth frontends, but can't afford it
[02:10] <superm1> no mentions on linux support though yet pdragon
[02:10] <superm1> er no official mentions
[02:11] <superm1> TazgodX, well with 8.04....
[02:11] <superm1> diskless frontends
[02:11] <superm1> less expensive
[02:11] <TazgodX> what exactly does that mean. i saw that a little bit ago
[02:11] <TazgodX> no HDD?
[02:11] <TazgodX> cause i ahve a PC sitting around with no HDD :)
[02:12] <pdragon> superm1: any idea if a fix is being put in for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/210852
[02:12] <pdragon> got a nice new high end sound card and still having it happen
[02:13] <superm1> TazgodX, yup
[02:13] <superm1> pdragon, if you knew of a solution i'd be glad to put it in
[02:13] <superm1> i've not seen anything though
[02:14] <TazgodX> hmmm
[02:14] <pdragon> fox's post mentioned something in the directtv.pl script being modified
[02:14] <TazgodX> and it boots off the network then?
[02:14] <superm1> yup
[02:14] <pdragon> i'm not sure how to go about modifying it tho
[02:14] <superm1> get the backend set up and then you can play with the diskless stuff
[02:14] <TazgodX> so i would need a mobo that supports booting off the network
[02:14] <superm1> TazgodX, nope
[02:14] <superm1> you can copy the kernel and initrd to a flash drive and boot that on the flash drive and then chainload to the network
[02:15] <TazgodX> really...now im confused and intriqued
[02:15] <superm1> TazgodX, or you can do network booting
[02:15] <superm1> yeah laga started some docs on it, but they aren't fully done
[02:15] <TazgodX> imma play with that later
[02:15] <TazgodX> right now im trying to plan out how i want this ran
[02:15] <superm1> get your machine up and running and then can get you pointed at those docs (and hopefully you can help improve them)
[02:16] <TazgodX> they ran cat5 throughout my house for these boxes, so my whole house it networked :)
[02:16] <pdragon> yeah, i finally got a nice backend machine set up
[02:16] <TazgodX> maybe ill move some boxes around and get 2 in this room
[02:17] <superm1> TazgodX, yeah if you can prove that it works well, then you'd be set :)
[02:18] <TazgodX> burnign the disk now
[02:18] <pdragon> i'll be moving into a house later this year. will be getting cable drops put in all rooms probably :)
[02:18] <pdragon> cat 5 cable
[02:18] <TazgodX> i really wanted to wire my house with cat5...then they came along and did it free :)
[02:19] <TazgodX> all running to a router downstairs...
[02:20] <TazgodX> i actually ran 1 wire from where they have it coming from to my room...and then pluggin into a switch. instead of just useing that wire they ran another one along side it...not exactly smart
[02:21] <superm1> i'd wonder too if the native iptv recorder in myth can use uverse....
[02:21] <superm1> that would be way too awesome though
[02:21] <TazgodX> i was trying to read up on that
[02:21] <TazgodX> didn't find much on it tho
[02:21] <pdragon> what's that?
[02:22] <superm1> myth has a native iptv recorder
[02:22] <superm1> that can work with unencrypted streams
[02:22] <superm1> i dont know if those streams are encrypted, but odds are you will need to run wireshark on your network
[02:22] <superm1> to find out what url and what protocol is used
[02:22] <superm1> to figure out if the native iptv recorder really will wrok
[02:22] <superm1> work even
[02:23] <TazgodX> wireshark?
[02:23] <superm1> yeah
[02:23] <superm1> used to be known as ethereal
[02:23] <TazgodX> ok, tell ya what. let me get this box loaded. and me and you can screw around with all that :)
[02:23] <superm1> if i had time for such random screwing arounds, i'd probably already have uverse :)
[02:24] <TazgodX> haha
[02:24] <superm1> but once release is out yeah i should be able to sit down an evening
[02:24] <superm1> and try to walk you through how to look into it
[02:41] <franky_the_pierr> hi, i was trying to figure out why my hauppauge pvr-150 remote doesnt work last week end, with the help of superm1, and we did not find out.  We left it as I was going to try the card in a winblows system to veryfy the hardware.  I did that, and everything works good in windows, so hw is good.   Can we pick up from there...  anybody could help me?
[02:45] <TazgodX> hmmm, superm1 error on install can't format disk... not a good start for me LOL
[02:45] <superm1> TazgodX, you did the live disk right?
[02:46] <TazgodX> yeah, i did Desktop/Live Disk
[02:47] <superm1> weird....
[02:47] <superm1> well try formating it before hand?
[02:47] <TazgodX> any problems with sata?
[02:47] <superm1> that's the same version of the installer shipping with normal ubuntu 8.04...
[02:47] <TazgodX> hmmm
[02:47] <superm1> so there shouldnt be anything wrong with it
[02:47] <TazgodX> ok, guess ill format first and try this again.
[02:47] <TazgodX> anything special with the mythbuntu install partitions?
[02:48] <superm1> that's really bzr though
[02:48] <superm1> no there isn't
[02:49] <franky_the_pierr> superm1: can we pick up where we left off last weekend in my troubleshooting?
[02:50] <superm1> frank23, sorry i'm on my way out right now
[02:50] <franky_the_pierr> ok np
[02:50] <superm1> if someone else in here can help out hopefully
[02:50] <franky_the_pierr> ok
[02:50] <superm1> otherwise i'll be around tomorrow at some point
[02:50] <franky_the_pierr> thx
[02:53] <TazgodX> so superm1, it makes one big ext3 partition and a swap partition?
[02:53] <TazgodX> imma make a 10GB ext3 partition and a swap aprtition and a XFS partition for the rest, anywhere special i should mount the XFS?
[02:56] <TazgodX> /var/lib still where everything is?
[03:00] <pdragon> by default i believe so
[03:00] <pdragon> you can change it to wherever you want
[03:00] <pdragon> moved mine to /opt/mythtv
[03:02] <pdragon> so, you can make the xfs partition and set the mount point at a later time
[03:15] <bobcallaway> ubuntu sees my hauppauge wintv go card has a sound device that is listed as booktree bt878 but I cannot get any sound from this card
[03:16] <bobcallaway> how do I configure it?
[04:10] <darthanubis> so if I pause a stream asx via the web, while ffmpeg is transdoing it, and happen to pause the viewing, ffmpeg just decides not to continue transcoding the rest of the video, so I can continue to watch the remaining of the show?
[04:10] <darthanubis> Does anyone stream video via the web from their myth box here?
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> yes sometimes
[04:30] <darthanubis> I'm having a  less than desirable experience using mythweb to watch streams.
[04:31] <darthanubis> I would like to have myth take my 2gb hr shows from my pvr150, and transcode them into 350mb hour shows so I could easily just download the whole show. If I could have it edit the commercials out thats be ideal.
[04:31] <darthanubis> Can this be done?
[04:32] <darthanubis> I attempted this with nuvexport, because it was supposed to read the cutlist from a .nuv file and then transcode the video into a human readable file format
[04:32] <darthanubis> but it transcoded the file to the right size, but a bogus file name
[04:43] <darthanubis> so which is used mythexport or nuvexport?
[04:49] <Krusher00> Hello quiet channel, I have a question for thee
[04:49] <Krusher00> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7471/
[04:50] <Krusher00> have a dvico-nano+ usb tuner that has been installed using the guide here - (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DViCO_Dual_Digital_4)
[04:50] <Krusher00> shows up correctly when I run 'lsusb'
[04:50] <Krusher00> but when I try to test or scan with it I get the error "Error(2): /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0: No such file or directory"
[04:51] <Krusher00> running mythbuntu 7.10
[04:51] <Krusher00> any sugestions?
[04:51] <aliby> do ls -la /dev/dvb/adapter0
[04:51] <aliby> is there anything listed there?
[04:51] <Krusher00> Nope
[04:52] <Krusher00> no such file or direc.
[04:52] <aliby> That path seems akward
[04:52]  * aliby shrugs
[04:54] <Krusher00> doing a 'locate adapter0' I find a "/dev/.static/dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0"
[04:55] <Krusher00> hmm, will keep looking then.
[04:55] <Krusher00> and post any sucesses here for future ref.
[05:17] <Krusher00> also just noticed it hasn't loaded any of the dvb modules with modprobe either.
[07:04] <Ribs> Krusher00: You'll need to load modules for that hardware
[07:04] <Ribs> that's why your DVB nodes aren't being created
[07:07] <darthanubis> ffmpeg is not transcoding the whole hour show to stream via mythweb
[08:42] <Krusher00> Ribs: any idea which modules I should be loading? (For a DViCO nano)
[08:46] <Ribs> ermm#
[08:46] <Ribs> no
[08:46] <Ribs> you'll need dvb_core for sure
[08:46] <Ribs> I needed dvb_bt8xx for my pci card
[08:46] <Krusher00> just that it's not loading any in /etc/modules by default and I've got nfi which to choose..
[08:46] <Krusher00> ok, i'll poke around some more and see what I can find
[08:46] <Krusher00> thanks thou
[08:46] <Ribs> do "locate dvb"
[08:46] <Krusher00> I wasn't sure if that was my problem or not
[08:46] <Ribs> that'll throw up a shed load of modules
[08:46] <Ribs> dmesg is also helpfull
[08:47] <Ribs> I found that Ubuntu only recently found the hardware without me helping it
[08:47] <Ribs> 7.10 seemed to improve the dvb side of things
[08:47] <Ribs> anyway, I have to go now
[08:47] <Ribs> good luck
[08:47] <Krusher00> thanks heaps
[09:12] <Krusher00> just tried loading all the dvb-* modules  and running scan, still getting the "Error(2): /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0: No such file or directory"
[09:12] <Krusher00> and I can confirm theres nothing there under /dev/dvb
[11:59] <|DuReX|> hello, whats best to use, ATI open source driver ? the restricted in ubuntu repo's or the one @ www.ati.com ?
[12:00] <darthanubis> !common
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about common - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <darthanubis> !sense
[12:00] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:01] <darthanubis> !best
[12:01] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:02] <|DuReX|> the restricted in ubuntu repo's the output in mythtv is lagging :s
[12:05] <laga> |DuReX|: don't install drivers directly from ati.com. at least for nvidia, that's a good way to bring your system into an incosnsistent state... if you have to update the driver, envy-ng should work
[12:05] <laga> and i'd always prefer the free driver if it works ;)
[12:06] <|DuReX|> the open source works best
[12:06] <|DuReX|> but sometimes it locks :s
[12:07] <|DuReX|> buffer full or something :p
[13:47] <MythbuntuGuest44> hi @ all
[13:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> a have a little problem with installing mythbuntu 7.10
[13:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> anyone who can help me?
[13:50] <laga> !ask
[13:50] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[13:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> i want to install it but it stops and hang after running local boot scripts(/etc/rc.lokal) [ok]
[13:53] <MythbuntuGuest44> cd usr
[13:56] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: have you tried the 8.04 release candidate?
[13:59] <MythbuntuGuest44> no i didn try that
[13:59] <MythbuntuGuest44> is it nearly stable?
[13:59] <MythbuntuGuest44> so i can use it after installing?
[14:00] <laga> yes
[14:00] <laga> final release will be in one week approximately, so it'd better work :)
[14:00] <Krusher00> RC = Release client, and the new version of ubuntu is coming out in the next couple of days anyway.. so you'd expect it to be pretty close to stable ;-)
[14:00] <laga> Krusher00: s/client/candidate/ :)
[14:00] <Krusher00> yeah
[14:00] <Krusher00> what he said :-D
[14:01] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh ok
[14:01] <MythbuntuGuest44> can i upgrade the rc4 to the final or do i have to install it new
[14:02] <Krusher00> if you're having problems booting on that one straight after the install, I'd say you'd be better off starting afresh.
[14:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> no, im not able to install 7.10
[14:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> he breaks while installing
[14:03] <Krusher00> oh sorry I see what you mean
[14:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> i tried it with safe vga mode
[14:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> and with normal mode
[14:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> but nothing changed
[14:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> but he hangs while starting lirc deamon
[14:05] <MythbuntuGuest44> and im not able to download the 8.04 version, url not found. with x86 and x64 both the same
[14:05] <Krusher00> where in the world are you located?
[14:05] <MythbuntuGuest44> germany
[14:06] <Krusher00> got a torrent client? the torrent link has a number of seeders
[14:07] <Krusher00> theres some other mirrors listed at distrowatch too: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mythbuntu
[14:09] <|DuReX|> MythbuntuGuest44
[14:09] <|DuReX|> just try few times :)
[14:09] <|DuReX|> and suddenly u will get working mirror :)
[14:10] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok thanks :-)
[14:10] <MythbuntuGuest44> sorry had to go to the toilett :-9
[14:10] <|DuReX|> http://germany.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/
[14:10] <|DuReX|> or just check here :)
[14:10] <Krusher00> .. uh thanks for letting us know .. i think.
[14:10] <|DuReX|> just renamed files it seems :p
[14:10] <Krusher00> :-P
[14:11] <MythbuntuGuest44> *gg*
[14:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok its loading :-)
[14:21] <MythbuntuGuest44> one question :-)
[14:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> is mythbuntu able to connect to an windows share on a win server 2003 to play multimediafiles stored on the servers disk?
[14:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> sorry im a linux no=b
[14:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> no0b
[14:22] <laga> yes, should be possible
[14:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> thanks for all infos :-)
[14:33] <Krusher00> MythbuntuGuest44: for your information this can be done back the other way too, you can setup samba to allow windows computers to access the files on your media server.
[14:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok
[14:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> but my htpc has only a very small hdd :-)
[14:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> 80gb
[14:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> and the fileserver has 1tb :-)
[14:34] <Krusher00> I have 3tb and it's still full :-(
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> hehe
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> 3 tb raid 5 or 3 single hdds?
[14:35] <Krusher00> 2 x 500gb, 2 x 1tb
[14:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[14:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> is mythbuntu a complete replacement für windows mce?
[14:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> it should be easy to use
[14:37] <laga> it's an alternative
[14:37] <Krusher00> the frontend is similar, and easy to navigate but I wouldn't put it as a replacement.. myth does a lot of things windows can't/doesn't :-)
[14:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh ok
[14:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> i only want to be able to play my dokumentations from the webserver on my tv in my living room :-)
[14:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> and my girlfriend should to be able to play her mp3s in the living room
[14:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> so it only has to be easy to use :-9
[14:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> sorry about my bad english :-/
[14:39] <Krusher00> yeah should be relatively easy for you then, most of the issues that people have are getting tv tuner cards working with the right firmware etc.
[14:39] <Krusher00> your english is great!
[14:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> my last english lesson was 7 years ago
[14:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> but my linux skills are much lower :-)
[14:40] <Krusher00> my last german lesson was from google translator ;-)
[14:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> hehe ok
[14:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> nobody needs german :-)
[14:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> im installing 8.04 at this time
[14:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> it should work
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> he is asking me for installing additional software
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> mail openssh and lamp i doesnt need at this time
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> what are mythbuntu additional rules?
[14:42] <Krusher00> correct
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> frontend i need
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> and what about master and slave backend?
[14:43] <Krusher00> install master backend
[14:43] <Krusher00> unless you plan on setting up the main part on another server
[14:43] <MythbuntuGuest44> ahhh ok
[14:43] <MythbuntuGuest44> and addtitional ruiles?
[14:44] <Krusher00> umm, I don't know :-?
[14:44] <MythbuntuGuest44> hehe ok
[14:44] <Krusher00> perhaps wait for laga, he should be able to answer
[14:44] <MythbuntuGuest44> so a have to left it empty :-)
[14:44] <MythbuntuGuest44> do u use mythbuntu?
[14:44] <Krusher00> yes
[14:45] <Krusher00> I was on her earlier today asking for some help myself ;-)
[14:45] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i think your linuxskills are much better than mine
[14:45] <MythbuntuGuest44> hehe ok :-)
[14:46] <Krusher00> I have a question for anyone who's about as well. Got a DVICO FusionHDTV Nano I'm trying to setup, got all the way through getting the usb device recognised; put the firmware in /lib/firmware/ and loaded what I believe are the correct modules, but can't get scan or dvdsnoop to work
[14:47] <Krusher00> still gives me a "main:2247: FATAL: failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0': 2 No such file or directory"
[14:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> sorry im not able to help u :-/
[14:50] <Krusher00> hehe thats ok, just feel free to help out someone else when you do know the answer ;-)
[14:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> of course :-)
[14:51] <Krusher00> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7502/ - details in relation to my question
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> so
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> new problem
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> if i select master backend to install he have a failure
[15:07] <jumpkick> Krusher00: look at lsmod and at dmesg to see if there's anything related to the tuner
[15:07] <jumpkick> maybe you have to restart usb-hotplug or udev or something like that
[15:08] <jumpkick> but anytime you plug in a usb dev you should get something in dmesg
[15:11] <Krusher00> MythbuntuGuest44 did you try just doing the standard installation?
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> yes
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> but he asks me near the end to install additional software
[15:12] <Krusher00> oh that bit
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> so i choose mythbuntu frontend
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> and master backend
[15:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> if i choose both he brakes
[15:13] <Krusher00> so you're talking about after it had installed on the drive an everything?
[15:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> if i only choose frontend
[15:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> he pass installation complete but he starts and then u hear a speaker signal and i habve a black screen and nothing happen
[15:13] <Krusher00> jumpkick: I've added the modules into /etc/modules so they load on startup, but other than the listing in lsusb, can't find anything showing that it has been added other than what was listed in the pastebin (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7502/)
[15:14] <MythbuntuGuest44> i install it new at this time
[15:14] <MythbuntuGuest44> now he installs the core system
[15:14] <Krusher00> hmm, I'm just installing 8.04 on a second box here as we speak (to see if it makes any difference to my tuner) so I'll see how it goes for me.
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> i install rc4 too
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> so now i have to type a username
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> and choose a proxy
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> no proxy
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> soooo
[15:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> now i have to choose software to install
[15:16] <MythbuntuGuest44> i choose master backend and frontend
[15:16] <MythbuntuGuest44> right?
[15:16] <MythbuntuGuest44> in german: installationsschritt fehlgeschlagen
[15:16] <MythbuntuGuest44> install failed
[15:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> it comes when i choose master backend
[15:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> i tried master backend alone and he failes too
[15:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> when i choose frontend only then he installs bit starts to a black screen
[15:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> every time  i choose master backend he brake
[15:28] <MythbuntuGuest44> bullshit :-)
[15:32] <Krusher00> mine went through, only issue so far is that it didn't recognise the onboard graphics as well as it did last time :-)
[15:32] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: um
[15:32] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what iso is that? there is no rc4
[15:32] <MythbuntuGuest44> mythbuntu-8.04-rc-alternate-amd64
[15:33] <laga> ah, you tried the alternate disk. ok.
[15:33] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: does it work if you choose "frontend"?
[15:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> the installation work
[15:33] <MythbuntuGuest44> end he sais that i have to reboot and start with mythbuntu
[15:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> then he starts from hdd
[15:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> the speaker does a beep
[15:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> and i have only a black screen
[15:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> nothing else
[15:34] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what works? if you choose "frontend" in the task selector?
[15:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> yes
[15:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> if i choose only the point frontend in : choose software to install
[15:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> then he runs the installation correctly
[15:35] <MythbuntuGuest44> but dont boot correctly
[15:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> the core he install complete
[15:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> then he asks me for installing software
[15:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> and i need master backend and frontend or not?
[15:36] <laga> yeah, ok
[15:37] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: you can install the backend later on
[15:37] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what happened before the black screen?
[15:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> uh
[15:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> im in the install screeen
[15:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> he makes some lines from linux
[15:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> he loads the kernel
[15:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> then the speaker beeps and nothing else happen
[15:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> so i only choose frontend this time and finish install first ok?
[15:39] <laga> well, i thought you finished the install?
[15:39] <laga> what did you do
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> i finished the install
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> then it doesnt work
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> and so i installed new
[15:39] <laga> when? :)
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> and this new install is running at this time
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> :-)
[15:40] <laga> are you talking abouz 7.10 or 8.04?
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> 8.04
[15:40] <laga> ah, you're currently installing myhbuntu 8.04
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> mythbuntu-8.04-rc-alternate-amd64
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> yes
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> so he would finish in a minute  :-)
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> so he asks me for configure lirc
[15:41] <laga> it's good that you caught this problem.. i'll have to try the amd64 iso
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> what i have to choose :-)?
[15:41] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: you can configure lirc later, just choose "none" now
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> ir transmitter too
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok
[15:41] <MythbuntuGuest44> thats what i did wehen installing the first time
[15:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> :-9
[15:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> now he is cleaning up
[15:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> erm
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest44> he asks me to install grub bootloader
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest44> or lilo bootloader or without bootloader
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest44> whats the right one?
[15:44] <laga> grub should work
[15:44] <MythbuntuGuest44> install in the master boot record?
[15:45] <MythbuntuGuest44> so he finished installation
[15:45] <MythbuntuGuest44> now i reboot
[15:45] <laga> yes, install into MBR
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest44> so now i see the mythbuntu logo
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest44> with a loading line
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest44> then a moment a saw a blinking cursor on the upper left
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest44> then he switched to black screen with beeping on the speaker
[15:47] <MythbuntuGuest44> and nothing.....
[15:47] <MythbuntuGuest44> i only see a black screen
[15:47] <SoulBlade> anybody know why mythtv .21 wouldn't play any audio but mplayer /dev/video0 plays it just fine?
[15:47] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what computer is that?
[15:47] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: eg what kind of hardware
[15:48] <MythbuntuGuest44> its a core2duo mobile 5600 with 4gb corsair ddr2 ram pc 800 and a msi speedstar mainboard with intel 945 gt chipset
[15:48] <MythbuntuGuest44> a notebook hdd
[15:48] <MythbuntuGuest44> 80gb sata
[15:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> and now i tested it with a 250 gb sata
[15:49] <laga> well, i'm jealous. :)
[15:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> graphics card is an ati ht2400
[15:49] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: when it loads grub, do you get a menu?
[15:49] <laga> or "hit esc for menu"?
[15:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> no
[15:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> moment
[15:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> i load again
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> your right
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> he says press esc to enter menu
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> and then i have 3 choices
[15:51] <laga> ok, good
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> memtest
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> generic
[15:51] <laga> the first choice, select it and enter 'e'
[15:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> and generic recovery mode
[15:51] <laga> which should be the generic choice
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> its the first
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> the secound is recover
[15:52] <laga> now you should be in another screen, after hitting e
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> the 3rd is memtest
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> yes
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> root
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> 1st choice
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> 2nd is kernel
[15:52] <MythbuntuGuest44> 3rd initrd
[15:53] <MythbuntuGuest44> and the 2nd and 3rd option with some text behind. do u need this text?
[15:53] <laga> no.. wait a second
[15:53] <laga> ah, right. select the "kernel" entry and hit "e"
[15:53] <laga> now you can edit the text
[15:53] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok
[15:54] <laga> remove "quiet splash"
[15:54] <MythbuntuGuest44> now he says
[15:54] <laga> after you removed these two words, hit enter
[15:54] <laga> then hit b
[15:54] <MythbuntuGuest44> a very long line with characters and behind this ro quiet splash
[15:54] <laga> and it should boot
[15:54] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok
[15:54] <sauron> hey, anyone wants to help a mythbuntu newbie
[15:54] <sauron> well, attempted newbie
[15:54] <laga> without all these annoying splash screens so you can get some debugging output
[15:54] <SoulBlade> anybody know why i would get ALSA support not compiled in if i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.04 like a week ago - this is w/ myth .21
[15:54] <Krusher00> sauron, I'll give it a go
[15:54] <sauron> the damn rc does not want to install
[15:54] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok :-)
[15:54] <sauron> at all
[15:54] <SoulBlade> and if i can just fix this w/ a package or whatever
[15:55] <Krusher00> sauron, what type of rc?
[15:55] <sauron> after I select the installation it ends up at the busybox prompt
[15:55] <sauron> latest 8.04
[15:55] <Krusher00> oh
[15:55] <sauron> brand new setup, hdtv supposed to arrive today
[15:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> now he had said meny lines
[15:55] <Krusher00> haha I thought you meant remote control :-P
[15:56] <sauron> any ideas?  or should I just use the gutsy release?
[15:56] <laga> SoulBlade: huh
[15:56] <laga> SoulBlade: can you pastebin the error message
[15:57] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i cant sai whats wrong
[15:57] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what are the last lines? maybe you can take a picture of the screen
[15:57] <Krusher00> laga would be the one to talk to but he's a little busy right now as you can see, if you want to go ahead and try the gutsy release you could do that, or wait for 8.04 stable to be released in a couple of days.
[15:57] <sauron> oh
[15:57] <laga> sauron: what exactly is wrong?
[15:57] <sauron> heh missed that comment krusher
[15:57] <sauron> well, I cannot boot the live cd or do installation
[15:57] <MythbuntuGuest44> they are very fast
[15:58] <sauron> it starts loading, I get to the screen that says mythbuntu and the xp likeloading thing
[15:58] <sauron> and then it all just stops
[15:58] <sauron> and I get a prompt
[15:58] <laga> sauron: have you tried the safe graphics mode?
[15:59] <sauron> box is barebones, mb + vid
[15:59] <sauron> yes
[15:59] <sauron> same thing
[15:59] <sauron> I had suse 10.1 booting on it right before
[15:59] <sauron> so there is nothing wrong with it
[16:00] <laga> sauron: that's annoying.. can you download the alternate disk and try that? but take care, it might not be possible to install the master backend right off the CD - you can install it later on. i've just learned about that
[16:00] <MythbuntuGuest44> so laga i boot in recovery mode
[16:00] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: do you still see the lines?
[16:00] <MythbuntuGuest44> then i get a screen
[16:00] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: ah
[16:00] <MythbuntuGuest44> resume root or xfix
[16:00] <sauron> laga: well, maybe I am better off installing ubunty and just mythtv packages?
[16:00] <sauron> this seemed easier
[16:01] <sauron> but I guess it is not
[16:01] <Krusher00> sauron, you could just use the 7.10 distribution
[16:01] <laga> sauron: whatever works for you :) you can just install mythbuntu-desktop to install mythbuntu on a normal ubuntu install
[16:01] <sauron> oh
[16:01]  * Krusher00 watches laga fly loops around the channel :-O
[16:01] <sauron> :) ok problem solved
[16:01] <sauron> thanks
[16:01] <sauron> I do not want to mess around with a broken installer
[16:01] <laga> sauron: it's supposed to be easier, but it looks like there might be a problem with the live disk :)
[16:01] <sauron> or its just a problem with me :)
[16:02] <sauron> hmm
[16:02] <laga> (the live disk doesn't work for everyone, which is why we have the alternate disk :))
[16:02] <sauron> general question
[16:02] <sauron> anyone using firewire to record from the new gen cable boxes?
[16:02] <laga> sauron: http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu <- maybe you can file a bug report about your problem with the live disk there
[16:02] <MythbuntuGuest44> so what to do now
[16:02] <sauron> very little to report, it basically did not work, I did not get meaningful errors
[16:03] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: you have two options. try one of them ;)
[16:03] <sauron> so whats the diff with the alt disk?
[16:03] <sauron> like I said, ubuntu installs fine for me using the regular disks
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> i tried
[16:03] <laga> sauron: the alternate disk doesn't try to load an X environment, it's more like the normal debian disk
[16:03] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: try the other one?
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> resume, he have the same black screren
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> xfix he made
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> and now i trie root
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok now im in root shell
[16:03] <MythbuntuGuest44> :-)
[16:04] <sauron> ok I will give that a shot, but I get the feeling my problem is not with the x env
[16:04] <laga> sauron: it's more compatible. wrt normal ubuntu disks working for you - we have a different build process for our disks, so things can go wrong there
[16:04] <sauron> I had several distros running on that box before
[16:04] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: that's progress.
[16:04] <sauron> ic
[16:04] <sauron> ok I will dl it
[16:04] <sauron> I hope I have some more blank cds around
[16:04] <sauron> thanks laga
[16:05] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:05] <sauron> and wost case I will just use reg installation
[16:05] <laga> sauron: i'm *very* interested in hearing about your experience with the alternate disks, these could still use some testing.
[16:05] <laga> sauron: right. it might take some time now, but you'll get there in the end
[16:06] <MythbuntuGuest44> so i opened the log with vi
[16:06] <MythbuntuGuest44> what i have to look for ?
[16:06] <sauron> ok I hope I can let u know in a bit
[16:07] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: jump to the end of the file
[16:07] <sauron> it will be a while until it comes down, dl was much faster last night
[16:08] <MythbuntuGuest44> Dac detection success
[16:08] <MythbuntuGuest44> and last line dac connect 00000002
[16:08] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: nothing else? bah..
[16:09] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: /var/log/messages ? anything interesting in there? do you know how to use ssh?
[16:09] <MythbuntuGuest44> now sorry im just a linuix no0b
[16:09] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i think its the graphics card
[16:09] <MythbuntuGuest44> the last lines are all with ati in
[16:09] <laga> that's sad.. i'd love to look at these logs with my own eyes, but writing them down is a bit annoying for you i guess ;)
[16:10] <MythbuntuGuest44> hehe thats right :-)
[16:10] <MythbuntuGuest44> so i just removed the ati card now
[16:10] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: i always blame ati. :)
[16:10] <MythbuntuGuest44> and try to take the onboard intel chip
[16:10] <laga> yes, that'd be good
[16:11]  * Krusher00 pats his 2900xt
[16:11] <Krusher00> don't listen to him baby.
[16:11] <MythbuntuGuest44> but this onboard card doesn#t support hdtv :-/
[16:11] <laga> i'm afk for a few minutes, more household chores
[16:11] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: you should be able to add the card back later one
[16:11] <laga> s/one/on/
[16:11] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> uhhh
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> after removing i see i screeen
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh my good
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> there was a miracle :-)
[16:12] <laga> re
[16:12] <laga> bah
[16:12] <laga> i think i know what your problem might be
[16:13] <laga> just a theory: your intel card is recognized as the primary VGA card, thus X comes up on that card
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh
[16:13] <laga> try pluggin your ati card back in, but attach the monitor to the intel card
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> mmmm should i just disable the intelcard in bios
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> no
[16:13] <SoulBlade> can anybody help me with an audio problem in mythfrontend?  the logs state that alsa support is not compiled in... i can see that mplayer chooses to use alsa when it plays the stream properly
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> i tried that before
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> then the screen is power down :-/
[16:13] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: hum. then try to disable the intel card..
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> no signal on the intel card
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> k
[16:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> i disable it in bios
[16:14] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: too bad. :/ what makes you think that the intel card doesnt support HDTV?
[16:14] <laga> SoulBlade: show me the logs, please
[16:14] <SoulBlade> ok one sec
[16:14] <MythbuntuGuest44> i read this
[16:16] <SoulBlade> http://pastebin.org/30767
[16:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> um
[16:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> its not possible to disable it in bios :-/
[16:17] <laga> SoulBlade: very scary. can you show me apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend libmyth-0.21 and the output of mythfrontend --version?
[16:17] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: maybe there is a setting to make it prefer the pci express slot?
[16:18] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: or maybe it automatically disables the card and my theory was trash :)
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> yes
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> he disables the card
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> but dont support the ati hd 2400 card+
[16:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i read the 2400 in the driver support
[16:19] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: what makes you think that your intel GPU doesn't support hdtv?
[16:19] <MythbuntuGuest44> i read it in some boards
[16:19] <MythbuntuGuest44> and i dont read hdtv support at intel homepage and msi homepage
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> i would prefer to kick the ati out of it
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> it only costs energy
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i want to have hdtv on my plasma tv :-)
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> this board has a dvi output
[16:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> but i couldnt read that it has hdtv
[16:21] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: in linux things are a bit differently
[16:21] <laga> s/ly/
[16:21] <MythbuntuGuest44> im a linux no0b :-)
[16:21] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: basically, for 2d video acceleration, your cards are about the same in linux.
[16:22] <laga> there is no special hardware acceleration possible with those cards
[16:22] <SoulBlade> http://pastebin.org/30768
[16:22] <laga> (3d is a different thing, but i usually dont need much 3d power on my mythtv box)
[16:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh ok
[16:23] <MythbuntuGuest44> so the cpu has to make the hdtv things?
[16:23] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: yup
[16:23] <MythbuntuGuest44> oh ok
[16:24] <MythbuntuGuest44> so im able to have hdtv films on my plasma without this sucking ati graphics card?
[16:24] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: well, where do you get them from?
[16:25] <MythbuntuGuest44> some captured from tv on discovery hd
[16:25] <MythbuntuGuest44> and im thinking about buying a blue ray drive
[16:26] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: blu ray is not supported in linux :/
[16:26] <laga> your discovery hd recordings should work
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest44> ok
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest44> blue ray would come in a year or so
[16:26] <MythbuntuGuest44> :-)
[16:26] <laga> since your CPU is fairly speedy, but you'd have to tweak your display profiles a little bit. but it ought to be possible
[16:26] <laga> i'd say go with the intel card now
[16:27] <laga> SoulBlade: did you upgrade that ubuntu install? did you ever install mythtv from source?
[16:27] <MythbuntuGuest44> i install new with the intel card only at this moment :-)
[16:27] <SoulBlade> i tried but failed miserably
[16:27] <SoulBlade> originally i was on gutsy, upgraded to .21 - but that broke legacy support
[16:28] <SoulBlade> i then tried to build my own but never succeeded - and then ended up doing a dist upgrade to hardy
[16:28] <MythbuntuGuest44> its an core2duo 5600 1,8ghz so i think hes good enough to play hd :-)
[16:28] <SoulBlade> and i was fixed aside from audio
[16:28] <SoulBlade> but i havent tried installing from source since i did the upgrade
[16:34] <SoulBlade> laga - i get a policy for libmyth-0.20 but not one for libmyth-0.21
[16:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> so he startet xfce
[16:38] <MythbuntuGuest44> how to reinstall the master backend
[16:44] <SoulBlade> ah butits there for libmyth-0.21-0
[16:45] <SoulBlade> installed is the same as candidate: 0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3
[16:45] <SoulBlade> 500 in the version table for hardy/multiverse packages..
[16:48] <laga> SoulBlade: libmyth-0.20 can probably be removed. the correct package is libmyth-0.21-0 i think
[16:48] <laga> yeah
[16:48] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: go to the control centre
[16:48] <SoulBlade> ah yea - its not installed anymore
[16:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> i installed it
[16:49] <MythbuntuGuest44> do i have to type a password every time the computer starts?
[16:49] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: no. just explore the control centre and you'll find the correct option :)
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> i trie this option at this time *gg*
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest44> and it works :-)
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> thanks a lot
[16:51] <SoulBlade> nice
[16:51] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: any idea about SoulBlade's issue? http://pastebin.org/30767 http://pastebin.org/30768
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> now i only have to found the correct thing for connect to a windows share to play this files
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest44> then i am happy
[16:53] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, SoulBlade whats the problem?
[16:54] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: his mythtv claims it's not compiled with alsa support
[16:54] <SoulBlade> i have no audio when i play livetv
[16:54] <SoulBlade> and the logs say what laga just wrote
[16:54] <SoulBlade> but i can do mplayer /dev/video0 w/o a problem
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> is this an RC?
[16:54] <tgm4883_laptop> RC install
[16:54] <MythbuntuGuest44> remote control
[16:54] <SoulBlade> i picked this up after doing an update to hardy and then using synaptics
[16:55] <laga> MythbuntuGuest44: RC = release candidate these days ;)
[16:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> is synaptic a touchpad or what?
[16:55] <SoulBlade> though i updated from gutsy because i was having problems w/ the .21 release and tried to do some debugging
[16:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[16:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> i only read rc *fG*
[16:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> sorry
[16:55] <SoulBlade> synaptic is a GUI for package management
[16:55] <MythbuntuGuest44> ah ok
[16:55] <BobSlob> anyone know the best/easiest way to get the remote mapping done
[16:58] <tgm4883_laptop> SoulBlade, any changes to your sources.list?
[16:58] <SoulBlade> i had removed some gutsy repos
[16:59] <SoulBlade> but nothing since the update to hardy
[16:59] <tgm4883_laptop> can you pastebin it?
[17:00] <SoulBlade> you want /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[17:00] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[17:01] <SoulBlade> http://pastebin.org/30774
[17:03] <SoulBlade> does it look right?
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> looks ok
[17:04] <SoulBlade> do i need some lib?
[17:04] <tgm4883_laptop> and you do have audio on the system right?
[17:05] <SoulBlade> yea - im using mplayer right now no problem
[17:05] <SoulBlade> mplayer appears to be using alsa based on the output as well
[17:05] <BobSlob> or know where i can get premade remote profiles?
[17:06] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, let me try some things
[17:10] <laga> BobSlob: mythbuntu-lirc-generator will generate a lircrc based on your lircd.conf. (overwriting your old lircrc)
[17:11] <BobSlob> okay... so i need a valid lircd.conf
[17:11] <BobSlob> problem is, i have a mce2005 remote... but theres like 4 different versions
[17:11] <BobSlob> so some stuff works... others it says "hahahah yeah right"
[17:12] <tgm4883_laptop> BobSlob, which one does it look like http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote
[17:13] <BobSlob> 3rd one in... version 2, model 1039
[17:13] <BobSlob> no colored buttons
[17:13] <tgm4883_laptop> so it's a phillips?
[17:13] <BobSlob> i believe so, yes
[17:13] <tgm4883_laptop> should say on the back
[17:14] <BobSlob> just says "microsoft version 1039"
[17:14] <BobSlob> err model
[17:16] <BobSlob> i'm still fairly new to linux aswell... thus why i'm so lost
[17:16] <tgm4883_laptop> BobSlob, I only see 2 remotes listed in MCC related to the MCE remote
[17:16] <tgm4883_laptop> and you should pick the new one
[17:17] <BobSlob> yeah, i did during the initial install
[17:17] <BobSlob> and generated dynamic button mapping
[17:18] <tgm4883_laptop> and what happened
[17:18] <BobSlob> the number buttons work great... thats about it
[17:19] <tgm4883_laptop> so in other words, the remote works fine, it's the button mapping that is screwed up?
[17:20] <SoulBlade> can i look for any symbols in the binaries to make sure i have alsa?
[17:20] <BobSlob> yeah... and i wanted to know an easy way to fix it =D
[17:22] <tgm4883_laptop> SoulBlade, is it just live tv, or recorded content too
[17:22] <SoulBlade> lemme check
[17:23] <BobSlob> also, another thing i cant figure out... when i load up the guide and actually "click" on the show i wanna watch, it will only ever give me recording options, nothing about switching to that channel
[17:23] <SoulBlade> same deal w/ recorded shows
[17:24] <SoulBlade> and those are shows i recorded when i had gutsy working w/ .20 that i know had audio
[17:25] <SoulBlade> problem solved - change audo to /dev/dsp
[17:25] <laga> that's not a solved problem
[17:26] <SoulBlade> hehe
[17:26] <laga> thaT's a bad workaround ;)
[17:26] <SoulBlade> yea thats a workaround
[17:27] <SoulBlade> why is it bad
[17:27] <tgm4883_laptop> SoulBlade, x86_64?
[17:27] <laga> because using the OSS devices will often block your sound card for other apps
[17:27] <SoulBlade> mine was set on ALSA:default
[17:27] <SoulBlade> x86
[17:28] <SoulBlade> dual p3 800 babbbyyy haha
[17:28] <SoulBlade> so old
[17:28] <famicom> I still need to get me a dedicated sound amp
[17:28] <famicom> and surround speakers
[17:28] <famicom> anyone got any reccomendations
[17:29] <laga> me too.
[17:29] <laga> but i'll likely get a stereo setup, a few hundred bucks don't buy you a great 5.1 setup ;)
[17:29] <SoulBlade> ive always liked klipsch
[17:29] <SoulBlade> but dont know what their latest offerings are
[17:31] <laga> SoulBlade: can you run ldd `which mythfrontend`
[17:31] <laga> and pastebin that
[17:32] <SoulBlade> not a dynamic executable
[17:32] <SoulBlade> and which says its using the one in /usr/bin
[17:32] <laga> oops.
[17:32] <laga> SoulBlade: can you run ldd `which mythfrontend.real`
[17:33] <SoulBlade> ah yes thats a bit longer.. one sec
[17:33] <BobSlob> how do i switch to a channel from the guide itself? it just keeps giving me recording options
[17:33] <laga> BobSlob: you can enable a setting somewhere AFAIK
[17:34] <BobSlob> hmm... i'll poke around.. thanks
[17:34] <SoulBlade> http://pastebin.org/30777
[17:35] <laga> SoulBlade: look at the first few lines. it's using stuff in /usr/local/, which is likely your own compiled version..
[17:35] <SoulBlade> i rock
[17:35] <SoulBlade> so do i just do a make uninstall
[17:35] <laga> yeah, totally
[17:35] <SoulBlade> or make clean or something
[17:36] <SoulBlade> thanks a lot
[17:36] <laga> make uninstall, and make sure everything is gone
[17:37]  * tgm4883_laptop points out that nobody told him that SoulBlade tried to compile it himself
[17:37] <SoulBlade> i thought i had
[17:37] <SoulBlade> sorry
[17:37] <laga> SoulBlade: you did, but tgm4883_laptop came in late
[17:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[17:38] <laga> slacker.
[17:38] <laga> ;)
[17:38]  * tgm4883_laptop kills laga 
[17:38] <SoulBlade> my bad - thanks a lot though
[17:38] <SoulBlade> this has to be the problem - man i suck
[17:39] <tgm4883_laptop> so....back to BobSlob
[17:40] <SoulBlade> woo ldd `which mythfrontend.real` | grep local returns nuthin
[17:41] <BobSlob> woo =D
[17:42] <SoulBlade> damn frontend started up a lot slower now... prescaling theme images is takin a long time
[17:42] <SoulBlade> well lets see if it plays
[17:43] <SoulBlade> works
[17:43] <SoulBlade> w/ alsa
[17:43] <SoulBlade> thanks a bunch
[17:43] <SoulBlade> must remember ldd
[17:45] <tgm4883_laptop> BobSlob, can you pastebin your lircrc file
[17:45] <BobSlob> i can try =D
[17:46] <BobSlob> actually... you know... its working pretty damn good =D
[17:47] <BobSlob> i wouldnt worry about it dude... i can live with it for now
[17:47] <Tu13es> how do I clear the mysql password?
[17:47] <BobSlob> hmm
[17:47] <BobSlob> i just changed channels and my sound went dead
[17:51] <BobSlob> okay... i dont think it goes dead... it just varies so much you cant hear it
[18:06] <famicom> anyon here know how i can disable that "You should have gotten a lock by now" message?
[18:57] <MythbuntuGuest65> anyone here help with a 8.04 rc install problem ?
[18:59] <laga> !ask
[18:59] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest65> ok, installing 8.04rc and getting enter your password to perform admin tasks dialog. It seems to want an existing password on a fresh install ?
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest65> when i enter a password it tells me i have it wrong
[19:00] <laga> MythbuntuGuest65: where and when does that happen?
[19:01] <SoulBlade> empty password?
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest65> after boothing from CD
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest65> or after clincking on the install mybuntu icon
[19:01] <laga> MythbuntuGuest65: and when does it want the password?
[19:01] <laga> hum
[19:01] <laga> interesting
[19:01] <laga> superm1: ^^
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest65> blank password no good
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest65> no error with blank - dialog disappears but no progress to install either
[19:03] <MythbuntuGuest65> wonder is it picking something up from previous install on disk
[19:03] <MythbuntuGuest65> i thought i could just overwrite it
[19:03] <laga> MythbuntuGuest65: okay. so you downloaded the 8.04 RC live disk, put it on a disk, booted from that disk and the first thing it wants is a password?
[19:04] <MythbuntuGuest65> thats exactly what im seeing
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest65, does it make it into the live env?
[19:04] <MythbuntuGuest65> previous install of knoppmyth on disk
[19:05] <MythbuntuGuest65> yeah it makes it to the black screen with the two icons #1 = livecd frontend #2 = install mythbuntu
[19:06] <tgm4883_laptop> so when does it ask for the password?
[19:06] <MythbuntuGuest65> after 3rd fail it says "failed to run /usr/bin/ubuiquity 'mythbuntu_ui' as root
[19:06] <MythbuntuGuest65> and ends dialog with 'wrong password'
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> 32 or 64 bit?
[19:08] <MythbuntuGuest65> 32bit - pentium 4 1.7ghz
[19:10] <tgm4883_laptop> while i'm grabbing the iso, did you verify the md5sum of the iso, and verify the burn?
[19:11] <MythbuntuGuest65> nope did not do that but burned at 8x for safety - never had issues before
[19:11] <tgm4883_laptop> did you download via torrent?
[19:11] <MythbuntuGuest65> i might try the test media option if this is not a known issue
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest65> no not via torrent
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest65> iso from mythbuntu.org link
[19:12] <tgm4883_laptop> test your media, i'm going to try to reproduce the results in a vm
[19:13] <MythbuntuGuest65> ok i think i will test the media - I'm even getting the same dialog on cliucking the live cd icon !
[19:15] <MythbuntuGuest65> starting the integrity check now - this may take some time.....
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest65> hmmm -check has just completed - errors found in two files - does not say which
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest65> guess i need to re-download or re-burn
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> verify your md5sum
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> on the iso
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest65> whats the easy way to do that ?
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> download the md5sum file off the website
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> then in a terminal do
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> md5sum -c filename.iso.md5sum
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> make sure they are in the same dir
[19:23] <MythbuntuGuest65> cd burnt from windows - downloaded md5.exe from softpedia, its verifies ok
[19:23] <MythbuntuGuest65> so it must be a dodgy burn
[19:24] <MythbuntuGuest65> but this is a weird outcome from a dodgy burn ?
[19:25] <laga> yeah..
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest65> gonna try a re-burn see if it helps
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest65> think i will try track at once burn this time - last one was disk at once
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest65> not sure if it makes any diff
[19:27] <tgm4883_laptop> can you burn slower?
[19:27] <tgm4883_laptop> like 4x?
[19:29] <MythbuntuGuest65> last burn was at 8x - slowest it would go
[19:29] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[19:45] <am_dragon> did the mediabuntu repository change? I'm getting 404 on package.medibuntu.org or is that just spelled wrong in the beta?
[19:45] <laga> did you apt-get update?
[19:46] <am_dragon> yes that's where I get the 404 error.
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> i noticed that too
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> figured it was down or something
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> cause it was fine yesterday i believe
[19:48] <am_dragon> ah, ok.
[19:48] <am_dragon> my mythbox HD died a couple days ago, so I figured I try beta for the reload.
[19:49] <am_dragon> I tried the RC first but the installer wouldn't launch because of a error on a file in /pixmaps... I'm guessing missing art.
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> bad burn maybe?
[19:50] <am_dragon> possible, I could try do redownload.
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> 32 or 64 bit?
[19:50] <am_dragon> 64
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> did you md5sum the iso?
[19:50] <am_dragon> no, I'm lazy.
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> so you instead downloaded the beta build?
[19:50] <am_dragon> I already had it.
[19:51] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[19:51] <am_dragon> I installed it on an sd card to play while I was waiting for the HD.
[19:51] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll test in a vm once i grab it
[19:55] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, gotta restart x
[19:57] <tgm4883_laptop> bah, i lied i can't test it
[20:01] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest65, did you get that again?
[20:01] <superm1> or what happened?
[20:01] <superm1> did you sort it out
[20:03] <am_dragon> Check sum is fine burning the disk again.
[20:08] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest65, that must be dodgy burn.  i just verified in a virtual machine that behavior doesn't happen to me with the RC 32 bit disk
[20:31] <BobSlob> hmm
[20:31] <BobSlob> any reason why i'd have "choppy" playback regardless of settings on my mythtv box... c2d 2.13, 2gb ram, 6800gt, 2xmce150?
[20:32] <BobSlob> using the restricted drivers for the 6800gt aswell
[20:33] <BobSlob> i've tried the various profiles, from slim to cpu++, even tried making my own
[20:40] <am_dragon> verifyed the md5 checksum, burned 2x.  The install icon on the Live CD desktop doesn't seem to work.
[20:40] <am_dragon> That's the 8.04 RC live cd.
[20:41] <am_dragon> trying the "install" option from the boot menu now.
[20:42] <am_dragon> AMD64 8.04 (RC) Mythbuntu liveCD
[20:46] <am_dragon> Internal Error - Failed to initialize HAL
[20:58] <DarkAnt> hi, I'm trying to get a svn server running with apache2 and Trac ticketing system on a mythbuntu box. It looks like everything is running, but the problem is that none of the permissions for apache seem to be working. Using a browser I can see the server and go into the Trac, but I'm not challenged with a username/password. I followed this tutorial http://www.subversionary.org/howto/setting-up-a-subversion-server-on-ubuntu-guts
[20:58] <superm1> am_dragon, oh no i know what you have going on
[20:58] <superm1> am_dragon, its a bug in linux-ubuntu-modules
[20:59] <superm1> due to cx88 mess
[20:59] <superm1> it will be fixed by final release
[20:59] <superm1> am_dragon, this is the fix for it: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=53143918a141e54197cc2511bcb3eb5984d60c8c
[21:04] <HorstHakennase> hi, i got problems setting up mythtv on ubutu 7.10. The channel scan doesnt work. What are the right parameters for FREQUENZY and SYMBOLRATE???
[21:05] <HorstHakennase> DBV-S
[21:05] <laga> 22:02 < Falballa`> laga: 'astra' could be (#1) scanfrequenzen fuer ASTRA19.2?E - 12551500 (frequency), vertikal (polarity), 22000000 (symbol rate), qpsk (modulation), or (#2) <http://www1.digitalfernsehen.de/frequenzen/astra1.html>, or (#3) <http://www.prosieben.de/service/transponderwechsel/>
[21:05] <HorstHakennase> I got DVB-S Card
[21:05] <laga> HorstHakennase: ^^
[21:05] <HorstHakennase> THX
[21:06] <laga> NO PROBLEM
[21:26] <MythbuntuGuest64> back again after several re-burns of 8.04 rc
[21:26] <Ribs> Are we typing in capslock now?
[21:27] <MythbuntuGuest64> ive decided that either i have a dodgy writer or dodgy disks
[21:27] <MythbuntuGuest64> just back from shop with new pack of philips cdrs and trying again
[21:28] <laga> good luck
[21:34] <MythbuntuGuest64> good news, new cdr burn and verified on nero, media checked ok on boot and install is so far progressing without the password dialog
[21:34] <MythbuntuGuest64> would never have guess that problem was bad media
[21:35] <MythbuntuGuest64> thanks folks for the advice - hope its the only problem in this install
[21:36] <laga> wow.
[21:36] <laga> very interesting
[22:13] <am_dragon> ok so I've got a Kworld 115 card and put a copy of the firmware in /lib/firmware but when I modprobe saa7134 it loads v4l-cx25840.fw, not the dvb-fe-nxt2004.fw it should.
[22:14] <am_dragon> Anyone know why it would load the wrong firmware?
[22:15] <laga> try loading saa7134-dvb?
[22:16] <am_dragon> sudo modprobe saa7134-dvb?  Yes, then I check the dmesg  and that's where I see the other firmware.
[22:17] <laga> odd.
[22:17] <laga> dunno, never used that driver
[22:17] <am_dragon> that's what I thought.
[22:17] <am_dragon> Might have to go back to 7.10.
[22:17] <am_dragon> worked fine there.
[22:18] <laga> maybe you need to kick into dvb mode, as it's loading a v4l firmware
[22:19] <am_dragon> how would I do that?
[22:19] <laga> i dunno
[22:19] <laga> :)
[22:19] <am_dragon> I thought that what saa7134-dvb did
[22:20] <am_dragon> http://youtube.com/watch?v=b-yNCqj_MXs
[22:20] <am_dragon> worked great for 6 months then hd died...
[22:21] <am_dragon> figured I'd just install the new beta, but I might just wait for the release.
[22:22] <am_dragon> I was going to tape the install and throw that on youtube as well but it's not going very well so far...
[22:44] <superm1> anyone around right now that's got a few minutes?
[22:44] <superm1> we need a few more in #wolfie....
[22:45] <laga> it's release-critical
[22:48] <tgm4883_laptop> yes, wolfie is very critical
[22:58]  * EvilGuru wonders if the newer 8.04 kernels have better support for Nova-T 500 cards
[23:01] <zabadapp> EvilGuru: are you thinking of IR or something else?
[23:02] <EvilGuru> USB drop outs, 24-14 (and possibly -15) had bad drop-out problems
[23:07] <zabadapp> what happens when it drops out? i had very few problems with mine ... is 24-14 a revision? how do I know what I have?
[23:07] <EvilGuru> When it drops out keyboard input becomes sluggish, if not impossible
[23:07] <EvilGuru> and dmesg | tail
[23:07] <EvilGuru> it populated with DVB IR poll errors
[23:09] <zabadapp> ahh! now that you mention it! i did have a flood of ir-errormessages once ... i have not noticed it since (but it could very well have happened)
[23:09] <EvilGuru> That seems to be caused when the device drops out
[23:09] <EvilGuru> If it was once every couple of months I would be cool with it
[23:11] <zabadapp> spooky, it was currently happening :) ... but i went to the livingroom and pressed a few buttons on the remote and now it stopped