[00:01] <munckfish> mmm X conf 08 in sunny california, a world away from still not quite convincingly spring here in Edinburgh, lucky you
[00:02] <bryyce> it's quite nice, I'm in shorts
[00:03] <bryyce> apparently it's going to be snowing next week back home (portland oregon)
[00:05] <bryyce> munckfish: so what do you work on?
[00:06] <munckfish> bryyce: you mean for ubuntu or generally?
[00:07] <bryyce> both
[00:07] <munckfish> well, by day I'm a software eng / team lead for a smallish elearning/gaming software company here in Scotland
[00:07] <bryyce> cool
[00:08] <munckfish> by night (and by breakfast time) I'm applying love and care to PS3+Hardy
[00:08] <munckfish> and just generally trying to find a useful niche in the ubuntu 
[00:09] <munckfish> volunteer world
[00:09] <munckfish> what about you are you full time Canonical?
[00:13] <bryyce> yep, pretty much
[00:14] <bryyce> in theory I also do Inkscape in my freetime, however I find myself more often just working extra hours on Xorg instead
[00:14] <munckfish> bryyce: right, somehow I'm not surprised
[00:15] <munckfish> were you at DebConf 07 ?
[00:15] <bryyce> nope
[00:15] <munckfish> I remember sitting in on various stuff, saw some of the debian X maintainers there of course
[00:16] <munckfish> really inspired to get involved actually
[00:16] <bryyce> cool
[00:16] <munckfish> and it was here in Edinburgh so I didn't have to move very far
[00:16] <munckfish> :)
[00:39] <munckfish> blimey xserver build takes quite a while - I'm sure this is longer than the kernel build time now. Is it possible to use ccache when building the xserver deb?
[00:41] <bryyce> sure
[00:41] <bryyce> I think also it's set up by default to use -j0; I've been wanting to figure out how to make it use more cpu's (I have a 4 cpu system that goes woefully underutilized)
[00:42] <bryyce> bbiab
[00:44] <mvo> munckfish: anything new about the ps3 kernel ?
[00:47] <munckfish> mvo: umm I cheated a bit
[00:47] <munckfish> I didn't use the update manager in the end
[00:47] <munckfish> sorry
[00:47] <munckfish> :S
[00:48] <munckfish> first I installed linux-powerpc64-smp
[00:48] <munckfish> then upgraded using the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[00:48] <munckfish> but converted for hardy
[00:49] <munckfish> so I now have a functioning hardy base
[00:49] <munckfish> and the kernel thing is fine
[00:50] <munckfish> so, I'll need to revisit gutsy at some point to try out the upgrade
[00:50] <munckfish> then I can tell you if there are any problems
[00:52] <munckfish> mvo: what solution can we use to solve the upgrade path problem? meta package? or something specific in the UpdateManager?
[00:55] <mvo> munckfish: a transitional package or a quirks rule in update-manager, both will work
[00:55] <mvo> the later is easier
[00:55] <mvo> for former more generic :)
[00:55] <munckfish> uhu
[00:55] <munckfish> so ... which would you recommend?
[00:56] <munckfish> taking into account that we've probably not got a chance 
[00:56] <munckfish> to get hardy done for PS3 for it's initial release
[00:57] <mvo> a quirks rule in update-anager sounds fine
[00:57] <munckfish> excellent
[00:57] <mvo> I just need the name of the old and the new kernel package
[00:57] <munckfish> ok
[00:57] <munckfish> I tell you what
[00:57] <munckfish> ...
[00:58] <munckfish> I'm a little unsure of this
[00:59] <munckfish> Let me check this out a bit more thoroughly
[00:59] <mvo> munckfish: ok, no rush, just catch me within the next few days
[00:59] <mvo> munckfish: I need to go to bed now anyway
[00:59]  * mvo waves
[01:00] <munckfish> If I raise something in LP on it you'll see it right?
[01:32] <munckfish> bryyce: that patch fixed it
[01:33] <bryyce> excellent
[01:33] <munckfish> Now moving on to the wrong driver problem (vesa -> fbdev)
[01:33] <munckfish> bryyce: thx for that!
[01:34] <bryyce> :-)
[01:47] <munckfish> bryyce: ok my passing shot for tonight. I've uploaded a gdb session stepping through the chooseVideoDrver function
[01:47] <munckfish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ps3-port/+bug/219424
[01:48] <munckfish> there's a lot of null pointers in it, and not much real action
[01:48] <munckfish> if you have a chance to review it
[01:48] <munckfish> and you need more or different traces let me know I'll get whatever we need.
[01:48] <munckfish> enjoy the conference
[01:49] <bryyce> ok cool
[01:50] <bryyce> conference has ended, I'm chillin' tonight and will be heading home tomorrow morning
[01:50] <munckfish> ok well safe journey, maybe speak over the weekend not sure. C ya!
[01:50] <bryyce> sure!
[09:12] <ubotu> New bug: #219487 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Typing blocks external mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219487
[09:19] <ubotu> New bug: #219424 in ubuntu-ps3-port "xorg-server wrongly tries to load 'vesa' driver instead of 'fbdev' on PS3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219424
[09:22] <ubotu> New bug: #219353 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "compiz corruption upon resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219353
[09:23] <ubotu> New bug: #219391 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xv doesn't work on ATI ES1000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219391
[09:58] <ubotu> New bug: #219350 in xorg (main) "wrong refresh rates shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219350
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #219468 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] Synaptics touchpad disabled by default after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219468
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #219548 in xorg (main) "Xorg constant 70% CPU load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219548
[15:43] <ubotu> New bug: #214379 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "compiz.real crashed with SIGILL" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214379
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #219620 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "AVM WLAN USB adapter causes ernel crash (dup-of: 200589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219620
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #219624 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia driver (nvidia-glx or nvidia proprietary) crash the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219624
[17:25] <komputes> is anyone in the office?
[17:27] <Q-FUNK> :)
[17:27] <Q-FUNK> I'm home
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #219630 in xorg-server (main) "please add "geode" to driver list in hw/xfree86/common/xf86AutoConfig.c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219630
[17:51] <ubotu> New bug: #219639 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] the new X server with no xorg.conf does not work with nvidia restricted drivers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219639
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #219569 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Touchpad ultra sensitive on kde (3.5.9 and 4) initialization (Hardy Heron)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219569