[00:00] <koolrans> @andi5 Any idea ?
[00:00] <Pelo> Orbixx, read up , he asked
[00:00] <Orbixx> So he did.
[00:00] <mattywarr> how do i register my irc nickname?
[00:00] <aaronfay> Orbixx: I meant without downloading it, can it be installed again from the version i have running?
[00:00] <Orbixx> Sorry ferris_ :P
[00:00] <kindofabuzz> pelo, oh ok, so delete home while offline then?
[00:00] <andi5> koolrans: did you pastebin them?  any urls for us?
[00:00] <JakeMon> kindofabuzz: if i do... apt-cache dump | grep ^Package | grep -i pear... i do see it listed... why is it listed and i get that message when trying to install it?
[00:00] <Pelo> !register > mattywarr  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:00] <Orbixx> aaronfay: Not as far as I'm aware.
[00:00] <koolrans> I paste the outpout at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7452/
[00:00] <aaronfay> Orbixx: ok thx
[00:00] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, if you want to get rid of the stuff in it yes
[00:00] <koolrans> @andi5 I paste the outpout at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7452/
[00:00] <ferris_> andi5 not that I am aware of. My mute button is not lit, so there should be sound
[00:00] <k1gwb> any chance of a "kickoff" style menu for gnome?
[00:01] <ferris_> no prob Orbixx
[00:01] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, not /home , delete the content, you need /home as a mountpoint
[00:01] <kindofabuzz> pelo, well don't i have to?
[00:01] <Orbixx> k1gwb: Did that work for you?
[00:01] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, you donT have to
[00:01] <Pelo> kindofabuzz,  just donT' leave anything you need in therer
[00:01] <kindofabuzz> so the entry in ftab will override it?
[00:01] <k1gwb> Orbixx: yep sure did, thanks. Now I can just click the button when I log in and don't have to put in the password to start my streaming audio server
[00:01] <jussio1> !test
[00:02] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, it won'T overwrite anyting,  if will just change the stuff behind the door,  so to speak
[00:02] <Fishscene> lol?
[00:02] <Orbixx> k1gwb: Cool :D
[00:02] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, i mean delete the content of the root /home, not the partition
[00:02] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I'm confusing myself,  donT' feel bad If I am doing the same to you
[00:02] <kindofabuzz> lol i'm confused too
[00:02] <andi5> koolrans: i suppose the other libraries were linked with an rpath
[00:03] <eureka> I'd like to put gOS on an old machine, but I only have 700M cd, and this machine can only read cd. The image of gOS is exceeding 700M. Is there any other way around this?
[00:03] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, i'm gonna browse around for a guide or something, i'm sure there's something
[00:03] <matt_> i remember someone showing me something that would allow me to "connect" to my ip address, which is dynamic and changes a lot, by giving me a free domain name that would sync with software installed on my box. Anyone know the name of it?
[00:03] <mameman> hey im kinda a noob to ubuntu and i need help in how to add sound to my system
[00:03] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, just make a copy of anything in the current /home that you might need put it somewhere that you can access easily, like a cd,   then change the line in fstab and be happy
[00:03] <ferris_> Pelo ... I am not sure how to check the private messages window... it has been a very long time since I have used xchat
[00:03] <kindofabuzz> no use giving you a headache either =)
[00:03] <mameman> som say use asla
[00:03] <mameman> but i dont know what that is
[00:03] <koolrans> @andi5 Can you please tell me how did you check that
[00:03] <Orbixx> IT'S ALIVE!
[00:03] <k1gwb> lol
[00:03] <Orbixx> !backup
[00:03] <andi5> !thanks
[00:03] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, it will be a fresh install, so i won't need any of it
[00:03] <Pelo> ferris_, there should be another tab open , just click on it ,  if you are using treeview there is an extra chanenl opened in the tree view on the left
[00:04] <mameman> any help?
[00:04] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, oh,  you mean you haven»'T installed hardy yet &?
[00:04] <Fishscene> eureka, I've heard of "High-capacity CD's" that hold over 700MB. But I'd be wary of gOS. It has never worked correctly for me for the most basic of things.
[00:04] <kindofabuzz> pelo, nope
[00:04] <koolrans> andi5:  Can you please tell me how did you check that
[00:04] <andi5> koolrans: i cannot check that... it is a wild guess
[00:04] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, that's another storry , just use manual partitioning and tell it where the /home is
[00:04] <koolrans> andi5: Oh ok
[00:04] <karmichael> i'm all giddy about 8.04
[00:04] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I assume that your current /home is on another partiton right ?
[00:04] <mattywarr> hi there, i'm having a problem booting my ubuntu 7.10 - It installed OK and i launch it through grub, but it goes to a black screen - probably something to do with my graphics driver - any ideas? Its an ATI Radeon Mobility X600. Live Mode CD ran it OK
[00:04] <kindofabuzz> Peol oh ok, it won't overwrite stuff?
[00:04] <andi5> koolrans: and honestly i am not a hacker enough to tell you from heart
[00:04] <kindofabuzz> pelo, yes
[00:05] <eureka> Fishscene: This is also my first try on gOS, it might get better now
[00:05] <k1gwb> eureka: You could install it from a USB flash drive. and I have gOS in a virtual machine and it seems very user friendly...if a little mac os like and "too" pretty
[00:05] <ferris_> Pelo I have no other tabs and no other channels. I am guessing I have no other message.
[00:05] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, well,  apps settings might get modified because of the new version of the app, but the data will stay the same
[00:05] <Pelo> ferris_, hmmmm , hold on
[00:05] <eureka> k1gwb: could you point me to the link?
[00:05] <Pelo> !sound | ferris_  there you go
[00:05] <Fishscene> eureka, it can be installed from a flash drive? Just copy the CD contents to the flashdrive?
[00:06] <kindofabuzz> pelo oh yeah, didn't think about the app data
[00:06] <Fishscene> err... not Eureka, sorry
[00:06] <eureka> Fishscene: that's it?
[00:06] <k1gwb> eureka: Link for what? I assu,e you already have the ISO for gOS...just have to extract it onto a flash drive and boot from that right?
[00:06] <karmichael> is it true that in order for to infer something from an OWL ontology, the reasoner has to look at the entire data set first?
[00:06] <Fishscene> I meant k1gwb >.>
[00:06] <Orbixx> If I want to use "dd" to backup a drive, does it have to be unmounted?
[00:06] <karmichael> whoops wrong chan
[00:06] <andi5> koolrans: i suppose you know /etc/ld.so.conf.d/* ?
[00:06] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, considering that gnome and firefox just had a major overhaul it might not be a good idea
[00:07] <koolrans> I did found about it on google
[00:07] <bobbyyu> I need to share my Windows' PPPOE connection to my Ubuntu machine. I don't know how.
[00:07] <koolrans> I was just confused because all libraries expect one were found
[00:07] <ferris_> Pelo thanks... the message from ubot was displayed in this window.... thanks
[00:07] <kindofabuzz> pelo, qucik question, i have hardy alpha burned, will that update to rc when installed?
[00:07] <eureka> k1gwb: I have the iso, so I can simply copy the content the USB, is that all?
[00:07] <Orbixx> bobbyyu: Get a switch.
[00:07] <koolrans> and some of the ohter libraries are in the same location as the one being not found
[00:07] <Fishscene> bobbyyu, go ahead and ask in #Windows
[00:07] <bobbyyu> OK, thank you.
[00:07] <Fishscene> :)
[00:07] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, well that could be a probelm then, if i use /home for hardy then boot to gutsy, that app data in home may be looking for the hardy data
[00:08] <andi5> koolrans: you might want to grep for the full path of one of those found libraries in the so
[00:08] <Orbixx> Anyone know the answer to my "dd" question above?
[00:08] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, it should, but get the rc one instead , you'll save the upgrade and probably some trouble
[00:08] <koolrans> andi5 : what do you mean by full path
[00:08] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, yeagh more or less
[00:08] <andi5> koolrans: /usr/local/lib/libPocoFoundationd.so.5
[00:08] <k1gwb> eureka: I assume it can be done since ubuntu can be installed from a flash drive. But I can't find any resources online detailing the installation. You might try just extracting the ISO to the drive and booting off it.
[00:08] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, hmm. i may just wait then lol
[00:09]  * Pelo pats kindofabuzz on the back , good choice 
[00:09] <koolrans> andi5: They are in /usr/local/lib
[00:10] <andi5> koolrans: no, i mean one could grep for the given string in the .so file itself
[00:10] <koolrans> ohh
[00:10] <koolrans> andi5: I have not done that before
[00:10] <koolrans> so not aware of it
[00:11] <ferris_> Pelo thanks, alsa was already selected so I will check the sites /leave #ubuntu
[00:11] <ferris_> lol
[00:12] <croddy> koolrans, strings somebinaryfile.so | grep somedeliciousregex
[00:12] <andi5> Orbixx: i am not sure, but i would recommend umounting it before if possible
[00:12] <XLV> got a laptop here, based on sonoma chipset, pm965, with efi bios... ubuntu7.10.. it wont boot when i set in the bios the usb config as legacy usb ( which is needed when i need to boot from a usb floppy i got ), anyone knows how can this be changed?
[00:13] <arkaniad> hello?
[00:13] <arkaniad> i have a ques
[00:13] <Orbixx> andi5: I thought that.
[00:13] <andi5> !ask > arkaniad
[00:13] <Orbixx> andi5: Looks like I'll be livecding soon :)
[00:13] <Pelo> XLV, try looking in this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport or in www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:13] <arkaniad> well, i want to upgrade dapper to gutsy
[00:13] <arkaniad> via apt
[00:13] <arkaniad> i know you have to do it incrementally
[00:13] <mirak> hi
[00:14] <arkaniad> but will i keep my settings and drivers?
[00:14] <Pelo> arkaniad, wait 6 days and you'll be able to upgrade directly to hardy
[00:14] <arkaniad> i dont think hardy will work on thiss oldie,
[00:14] <arkaniad> but
[00:14] <jussio1> arkaniad: you need to go via edgy and feisty.
[00:14] <arkaniad> will my drivers and settings be preserved?
[00:14] <arkaniad> yes
[00:14] <Pelo> arkaniad, if you upgrade yes, most of your drievers should be kepts, settings won,tchange
[00:14] <arkaniad> sweet!
[00:14] <mirak> I have an old 82801aa intel chipset. the problm is that the recent drive is put in udma2 mode while both chipset and drive should support at least udma4. and also why do I have /dev/sda on ide instead of /dev/hda ? it seems it messes hdparm hard drive tunning
[00:15] <Zelta> There is a way to go from Dapper to Hardy, so if you wait a few days for its release, it'll be easoer ;)
[00:15] <arkaniad> should i uninstall kde too? i have both on
[00:15] <puppy> can somebody remember each release of ubuntu?
[00:15] <andi5> arkaniad: do you really want to stick with other drivers (read: kernel).. and what settings do you mean? user settings should not be touched at all, unless new versions of gui programs update their configuration files
[00:15] <Pelo> arkaniad, you should be able to upgrade to hardy  if dapper works , I donT think they changed the system requirements
[00:15] <JakeMon> does ubuntu use chkconfig to configure which services to start upon boot?
[00:15] <andi5> arkaniad: s,other,old,
[00:15] <habernet> hey guys, i have touch sensitive controls on my laptop, but they do not control the speakers like they should, to adjust the volume for my speakers i have to use alsamixer...how do i configure the sensitive controls to control the speakers?
[00:15] <arkaniad> ?
[00:15] <arkaniad> k
[00:15] <Zelta> Pelo: You can
[00:15] <Pelo> JakeMon, init.d and rc level I beleive
[00:16] <Pelo> Zelta, I know you can upgrade from dapper t hardy,   from lts to lts, but anyother time it' sonly to the next release
[00:16] <puppy> which release is the first ubuntu release?
[00:16] <Zelta> I know, Pelo
[00:16] <JakeMon> Pelo: ok, i have apache2 to in init.d... how do i tell my system to start it upon boot?
[00:16] <puppy> ty
[00:16] <arkaniad> but, i have a wireless usb adapter that was a pain to set up and i dont want it to change cause the drivers only seem to be on 6.06
[00:17] <Pelo> JakeMon, got a gui ?
[00:17] <andi5> puppy: warty warthog?
[00:17] <erUSUL>  puppy 4.10
[00:17] <andi5> Intrepid Ibex, AHA ... #ubuntu+2 :-D
[00:17] <Pelo> JakeMon, are you runining gnome or just a cli server ?
[00:17] <arkaniad> so all my drivers will stay and settings too if i upgrade to gutsy?
[00:18] <JakeMon> Pelo: no, just cli
[00:18] <arkaniad> and will i have to remove KDE or will it be updated too?
[00:18] <Pelo> JakeMon, check in the rc levels,  you'll need to change one of the links in there , not sure which level is apache in ,  rhere are instrucions in there,  I'M not all tha good with taht stuff sorry, there are read me files inteh folders to tell you how to do it
[00:18] <andi5> will kde finally be removed completely from ubuntu in 8.10? :-)
[00:19] <Pelo> arkaniad, no , it will upgrade as well
[00:19] <arkaniad> cool
[00:19] <arkaniad> so upgrade one, upgrade all???
[00:19] <Pelo> andi5, why whould it ?
[00:19] <andi5> Pelo: would be fun ;-)
[00:19] <Pelo> arkaniad, pretty much,  might take  a couple of hours if you hav aq lot of stuff to dl but yes
[00:19] <arkaniad> lol
[00:20]  * Pelo 's spelling is shot to heck 
[00:20] <arkaniad> sweet, and if it dont work its ALL YOUR FAULT lol jk
[00:20] <Prez00> someone tried kernel 2.6.25 with gutsy?
[00:20] <Pelo> arkaniad, I stand by my statement , if it fails you are welcome to hunt me down and put me down like the dog that I am
[00:20] <arkaniad> lo9l
[00:21] <arkaniad> or just re install  dapper and deal with it :D
[00:21] <andi5> Pelo: maybe you should give him your address right away
[00:21] <Pelo> Prez00, too fresh, and few ubuntu users compile their own kernel
[00:21] <Pelo> andi5, he can do his own research
[00:22]  * Pelo does beleive that  Hardy RC uses a little less cpu and memory then Gutsy 
[00:22] <arkaniad> seriously?
[00:22] <Wantoch> good night ladies
[00:22] <andi5> what makes you think so?
[00:22] <Pelo> arkaniad, just a little ,
[00:22] <arkaniad> because gutsyworked pretty fine on this
[00:23] <Pelo> andi5, I have conky running and displaying cpu and mem,  it seems that it is usualy a little higher with the same stuff I have on atm
[00:23] <andi5> Pelo: maybe our chat just has less substance than at other times...
[00:24] <Pelo> andi5, likely
[00:24] <Pelo> eeryone seems to have upgraded to RC and is in #ubuntu+1 , less stuff to do
[00:24] <arkaniad> lol
[00:24] <Orbixx> Pelo: Give it a few days...
[00:25] <arkaniad> lol
[00:25] <arkaniad> lol
[00:25] <andi5> how does that work, btw?  do you all join both, #u and #u+1, and just leave #u+1 once it is released?  or do #u guys die instantly then?
[00:25] <Pelo> Orbixx, I know,  6 days and they'll all be in here asking for help in strange grammar and obscure syntax
[00:25] <arkaniad> lol
[00:25] <arkaniad> it are not work it running it not running wat i do? lol
[00:25] <Orbixx> Pelo: Yes, at the best of times,too.
[00:26] <arkaniad> lol
[00:26] <arkaniad> who uses ps aux | grep (proscess name) often?
[00:26] <Pelo> andi5, you can join both channels,   #u is the one for the current release,  +1 is the one for the next one,   +1 will be closed down once hardy is official and will reopen once ipex is in alpha
[00:26] <arkaniad> ipex?
[00:26] <andi5> arkaniad: moi, but without parentheses
[00:26] <arkaniad> wtf
[00:26] <arkaniad> well yeah
[00:27] <arkaniad> gots to leak
[00:27] <arkaniad> brb
[00:27] <Orbixx> Ipex is a far better name./
[00:27] <Pelo> arkaniad, code name for the next release  ,  intrepid ipex
[00:27] <mirak> I have an old 82801aa intel chipset. the problm is that the recent drive is put in udma2 mode while both chipset and drive should support at least udma4. and also why do I have /dev/sda on ide instead of /dev/hda ? it seems it messes hdparm hard drive tunning
[00:27] <andi5> Pelo: i rather wonder how this works socially... are #u and #u+1 visitors two disjoint sets of people?
[00:27]  * Pelo can'T wait for Randy Rhinoceros
[00:28] <Orbixx> Pelo: Haha.
[00:28] <jacekowski> ?
[00:28] <Pelo> andi5,  same username,  just joined in two channel,   what are you using to chat at this moment ?
[00:28] <andi5> Zealous Zeppelins
[00:28] <arkaniad> ubuntu 9.04 - horny hippo
[00:28] <Sharpie> what's the hardy channel?
[00:28] <Pelo> arkaniad, 9.04 will start with L
[00:28] <arkaniad> oh
[00:28] <arkaniad> Loopy Lemons!
[00:28] <andi5> Pelo: arrgh... i understand that technically :)
[00:28] <Pelo> Sharpie,  #ubuntu+1
[00:29] <Pelo> andi5, I don'T get your quesiton then
[00:29] <andi5> ok
[00:29] <void^> mirak: 80 wire cable?
[00:30] <arkaniad> lo, horny hippo, diseased dinosaur, infected insides,
[00:30] <andi5> insects?
[00:30] <mirak> void^ yes , but there is also a dvdrom on it, maybe I should put each on it's own port
[00:30] <arkaniad> sure
[00:30] <SammIndustrie> amarok help, anybody, please?
[00:30] <arkaniad> who is addicted to terminal?
[00:30] <Pelo> andi5, ok I think I get it ,  some are just in #u , some are just in +1 , some are in both depending on what they are wantingto talk about,  I was in +1 asking for help and Iam in here giving it
[00:30] <andi5> arkaniad: is there anything else?
[00:31] <arkaniad> idk
[00:31] <Pelo> SammIndustrie, actual question please ?
[00:31] <SammIndustrie> soz - ipod. is there a way to sync the ipod without having to do it file by file?
[00:31] <Pelo> arkaniad, it's very usefull but personnaly I'm a W.I.M.P.
[00:31] <user1> 1.how to run multipble comands in one line ( i think command 1 && comand 2 ) does it?  and 2. when in apt-get install something. it asks to type y or n. can i skip this thing for any command?
[00:32] <arkaniad>  the && thing is right
[00:32] <Pelo> SammIndustrie, I think you do that by addin the ipod to your media library in amarok
[00:32] <phuzion> Whats a good program to manage songs on an iPod Touch?
[00:32] <Pelo> !ipod | SammIndustrie
[00:32] <andi5> user1: command1 ; command2
[00:32] <arkaniad> if you want to install multiple packs just like this
[00:32] <Orbixx> phuzion: iTunes
[00:32] <phuzion> Orbixx, har har har
[00:32] <Pelo> phuzion, see the links I gave SammIndustrie
[00:32] <user1> andi5 && is not a good idea ?
[00:32] <arkaniad> sudo apt-get package-one package-two
[00:32] <Orbixx> Hehe ;)
[00:32] <arkaniad> an on and on
[00:33] <jussio1> user1: the && will run them after each other, if the first is completed correctly
[00:33] <user1> arkaniad ok.. but how to skip y/n ?
[00:33] <Orbixx> phuzion: My bad, you said "good" program.
[00:33] <SammIndustrie> thanks
[00:33] <arkaniad> yep
[00:33] <andi5> user1: you asked about running multiple commands... well && runs the later command only if the primer succeeded, i.e. had an exit status of zero
[00:33] <jussio1> user1: you can, but its nt recomended
[00:33] <Pelo> Orbixx, itune on linux ? can I have some of whatever you are on right now , sounds fun
[00:33] <phuzion> Orbixx, doesnt Rhythmbox have support for iPods?
[00:33] <user1> jussi01 whats the diff b/w && and : then?
[00:33] <user1> jussi01 how?
[00:33] <jussio1> user1: read man apt-get
[00:33] <user1> andi5 ic
[00:33] <dizee> user1: apt-get -y
[00:33] <Pelo> phuzion, it does,  same thing,  usermedia libraries to mount your ipod
[00:34] <RyanPrior> Is there a way to force my games to use PulseAudio so that I don't have to run them with pasuspender?
[00:34] <andi5> user1: check `false && echo "huh"` and `false ; echo "huh"`
[00:34] <user1> dizee thx. like sudo apt-get install packagename -y
[00:34] <Pelo> RyanPrior, wine games ?
[00:34] <RyanPrior> Pelo: Any old games.
[00:34] <Pelo> RyanPrior, ok ,
[00:34] <RyanPrior> Pelo: Is there some special trick for Wine?
[00:35] <Pelo> RyanPrior, no I was just gonna direct you to ask in #winehq
[00:35] <user1> andi5 jussi01 ; will run second command despite first one is completed succesfuly or not. or it will run 2 comands simultaneiously?
[00:35] <arkaniad> hey quick ques,
[00:35] <adamb> there a way I can have a process be nice'ed whenever it runs?  as in rsync from server a to server b, and have server b nice, rsync.
[00:35] <RyanPrior> Pelo: Nope, I'm just looking for a way to force games to use PA instead of whatever they currently use.
[00:35] <Pelo> arkaniad, no such thing
[00:35] <SammIndustrie> i have an ipod classic - is there a way to liberate that? i'm struggling because every time i mount it, it wipes, due to 'itunes'
[00:35] <adamb> Anyone know?
[00:35] <jussio1> user1: im not sure about the ;
[00:35] <arkaniad> how would i upgrade from 6.06 to hardy when stable is out (via apt)
[00:36] <Lerath> Hay, i was wondering if anyone could help me out, when im running Ubuntu and i try to connect to my unsecrued wifi, it wont actualy connect. Sees the networks, but wont connect.
[00:36] <user1> andi5 i dont get it
[00:36] <Pelo> RyanPrior, try looking in  prefs > sound or in cli : alsamixer maybe but I realy don'T know
[00:36] <RyanPrior> arkaniad: You answered your own question. APT does it.
[00:36] <poseidon> Whats a good partition manager for xp other than gparted
[00:36] <user1> jussi01 ok
[00:36] <arkaniad> like, how?
[00:36] <Pelo> !upgrade > arkaniad check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:36] <arkaniad> k
[00:36] <arkaniad> no PM window
[00:36] <Pelo> sigh
[00:37] <Pelo> !upgrade | arkaniad
[00:37] <arkaniad> thanx!
[00:37] <jussio1> the bot isnt identified, sorry
[00:37] <andi5> user1: A ; B  (A, then B) ,  A && B (A, if success: B), A || B (A, otherwise B),  simultaneously... i do not know
[00:37] <SammIndustrie> Pelo - do you know if you can liberate a classic ipod?
[00:37]  * Orbixx wishes he could do "sudo apt-get install "all my crap"
[00:37] <lopin> Got a problem with Nvidia drivers and the screen resolution resetting on restart...
[00:37] <jussio1> !rockbox
[00:37] <Pelo> arkaniad, any of the dist:dist upgrade links in there containts the command line you will use,  i recommend gettting the cd first and upgrading from that , it will be quicker
[00:37] <totorious> test
[00:38] <Pelo> SammIndustrie, liberate ? , no idea, I donT' have an ipod
[00:38] <andi5> user1: for cuncurrency, better start A in background, ala "A &", then issue B
[00:38] <arkaniad> i cannot boot from burnt cd's and i dont feel like waiting for shipit to deliver
[00:38] <Pelo> arkaniad, ok then
[00:38] <user1> andi5 thanks !
[00:38] <jumpkick> can some do an `ls /etc/rc2.d | grep restricted` and tell me what the start number is supposed to be for the linux-restricted-modules-common symlink?
[00:38] <Pelo> lopin, check in the forum Im sure this is covered, you are not the first to mention it ,  www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:39] <lopin> I did...  But I'm having trouble finding a solution...
[00:39] <Orbixx> arkaniad: Google: "unetbootin".
[00:39] <jacob_> i want to set ubuntu after a kde installation as the default operating system, how would i plan of doing that?
[00:39] <arkaniad> that probably wont work because i am using a usb adapter with rare drivers
[00:40] <JakeMon> n/join #vim
[00:40] <Orbixx> arkaniad: I didn't say boot from USB.
[00:40] <andi5> jumpkick: empty output... but it seems S07 (and K93 consequently)
[00:40] <Orbixx> arkaniad: Do a little more research into it.
[00:40] <arkaniad> no, its a netboot
[00:40] <arkaniad> no ethernet on this bad boy
[00:40] <Orbixx> arkaniad: You can download an iso prior and use it.
[00:40] <jumpkick> andi5: what's the symlink called?
[00:41] <Pelo> jumpkick, it yealds no result here
[00:41] <jumpkick> Pelo: thanks Pelo, I have the wrong name for the symlink...  I was guessing at it...
[00:41] <andi5> jumpkick: as i said, there is no such file in rc2.d, but in rcS.d there is S07linux-restricted-modules-common
[00:41] <arkaniad> i cant burn readabl cd's for this laptop
[00:41] <jumpkick> andi5: thanks
[00:42] <jumpkick> rcS.d
[00:42] <andi5> jumpkick: those names do not matter...
[00:42] <bbonora> has any body got VMware to work on Ubuntu 7.0 Desktop
[00:42] <andi5> probably unless you want to control startup behavior from the gui afterwards
[00:42] <Pelo> arkaniad, ask a freind , that's what they are for, and ifyou do upgrade from the cd get the alternate install cd or the dvd ,  you can'T uprade from the live cd for some reason
[00:42] <dizee> jacob_: install the ubuntu-desktop package
[00:42] <arkaniad> i dont have any linux friends cept my uncle
[00:43] <jumpkick> andi5: I see I have it there too...  :(   can't figure out why it doesn't run on start up (no nvidia_new driver till I manually execute lrm-manager)
[00:43] <Pelo> bbonora, yes,   vmware server , it's in the repos,  jsut enable mutliverse and backport to install it from add/remvoe
[00:43] <jacob_> dizee: ubuntu-desktop package?
[00:43] <arkaniad> what im asking, is that can you upgrade straight from 6.06 to 8.04 when it's stable?
[00:43] <Pelo> arkaniad, they donT' need to be linux friends they jsut need to be able to dl and burn an iso , you can do that even in windows
[00:43] <bbonora> Pelo: little new with linux but are you doing all of that using command line
[00:44] <arkaniad> i dont have any friends that can download. their parents are very strict
[00:44] <arkaniad> lol
[00:44] <arkaniad> i just gave away my age!
[00:44] <dizee> jacob_: yes, it contains the default ubuntu setup (gnome & the various programs)
[00:45] <Pelo> bbonora,  no,  menu > system > admin > software sources,   check all the box in the top half of the 1st and 3rd tab,  then reload,   after that go into menu > application > add/remove and search for vmware , install the vmware-server package , you'lll need to registere on the vmware site for a SN  but it is free
[00:45] <bbonora> Pelo, Thanks,  Where you able to install windows after that
[00:45] <arkaniad> wait, for now ill upgrade all the way up to 7.10
[00:46] <arkaniad> but will my drivers and stuff be safe?
[00:46] <jacob_> dizee i'm not trying to re-install ubuntu, my situation is this: i have ubuntu installed, now i want to install kubuntu, but then i want to make ubuntu the default operating system after i install it
[00:46] <Pelo> arkaniad, you'll be wasting a lot of bandwith for noreason , upgrad to the RC instead
[00:46] <Ax-Ax> Help please.. My computer says "Could not execute /bin/bash: no such file" after a reboot.. It worked before :( What can I do?
[00:46] <user1> any POWERFUL firewall with many features?
[00:46] <arkaniad> how do i upgreade to the RC easily with no cd just use the terminal and internet?
[00:46] <jacob_> dizee: how would i plan doing that
[00:46] <jacob_> dizee: if you know
[00:47] <Pelo> arkaniad, I donT' know your computer,  so I can'T make any promisses, but hardware support gets better with each release so you are pretty safe or you will be very unlucky
[00:47] <dizee> jacob_: oh ok. then just install kubuntu-desktop ;)
[00:47] <arkaniad> well
[00:47] <Pelo> arkaniad, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:47] <Starnestommy> user1: netfilter/iptables is installed by default
[00:47] <arkaniad> k
[00:47] <jacob_> dizee: will that leave my default OS as ubuntu?
[00:47] <dizee> ubuntu will boot up but you will have the option to choose a kde session
[00:47] <dizee> as well
[00:47] <user1> Starnestommy need more.. a gui maybe
[00:47] <arkaniad> i have KDE installed with GNOME too, would i need to update both seperately?
[00:47] <user1> Starnestommy need advanced firewal
[00:47] <Starnestommy> user1: firestarter is a GUI frontend to netfilter
[00:47] <arkaniad> or just one cmd makes all upgrade
[00:48] <jacob_> dizee: are you serious? that sounds fun
[00:48] <Pelo> arkaniad, both will be upgraded
[00:48] <arkaniad> cause i have a fast connect
[00:48] <Starnestommy> netfilter/iptables IS advanced
[00:48] <arkaniad> ok
[00:48] <jacob_> dizee: so i don't need to repartition?
[00:48] <dubby> mameman: talk here
[00:48] <arkaniad> so just open up konsole rite now and type it?
[00:48] <Pelo> arkaniad, yes
[00:48] <dizee> jacob_: no need to repartition at all, yes it is fun :)
[00:48] <user1> Starnestommy ok. but thats simple. i need advanced
[00:48] <mameman> ok
[00:48] <dubby> ok
[00:48] <dubby> so
[00:48] <arkaniad> doing as we speak
[00:49] <Starnestommy> user1: it IS advanced, it's just CLI-based.  Firestarter is a GUI for it
[00:49] <mameman> guys i need help! i have SIgmaTel STAC9200 sound card and i cat get it to work
[00:49] <kinections> how do i choose which version of python i want to use as default?
[00:49] <kinections> 2.4 vs. 2.5 ?
[00:49] <arkaniad> whats the apt get command again?
[00:49] <dubby> lspci?
[00:49] <mameman> tried
[00:49] <Pelo> mameman, check in menu > system>  admin > user  make sure you have permission to "user audio device"
[00:49] <Starnestommy> arkaniad: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[00:50] <Pelo> arkaniad, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:50] <arkaniad> no, for the dist upgrade
[00:50] <mameman> ok
[00:50] <arkaniad> kk
[00:50] <Pelo> arkaniad, your connection is not at issue here but the server's might be
[00:50] <user1> Starnestommy ic
[00:50] <Pelo> lots of ppl upgrading
[00:50] <user1> Starnestommy thx
[00:50] <arkaniad> only the kernels will upgrade???
[00:50] <erat123> i have some questions about the update manager and specifically how it works.  anyone an expert on this?
[00:50] <Pelo> arkaniad, no everythjing
[00:50] <user1> Starnestommy you mean iptables or net filter?
[00:51] <arkaniad> sudo aparkaniad@arkaniad-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrades
[00:51] <Starnestommy> user1: netfilter and iptables are actually the same thing
[00:51] <arkaniad> Password:
[00:51] <arkaniad> E: Invalid operation dist-upgrades
[00:51] <mameman> pelo it doesnt have the option user audio device
[00:51] <arkaniad> arkaniad@arkaniad-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:51] <user1> Starnestommy ah ic
[00:51] <arkaniad> Reading package lists... Done
[00:51] <FloodBot3> arkaniad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <dubby> hmm the dist-upgrade being supported?
[00:51] <arkaniad> Building dependency tree... Done
[00:51] <arkaniad> Calculating upgrade... Done
[00:51] <Pelo> arkaniad, migth be a good idea to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first jsut to make sure you have all the base packages to upgrade from
[00:51] <dubby> lol
[00:51] <dubby> flooded
[00:51] <Pelo> arkaniad, we donT need a pllay by play
[00:51] <jacob_> dizee: so let me just make sure i understand this before i make this step, i have an option to select gnome and kde at startup? when i log into kde, i will have the kde desktop environment and have my ubuntu files in there as well?
[00:51] <Ax-Ax> Help please.. My computer says "Could not execute /bin/bash: no such file" after a reboot.. Dash works, but what can I do?
[00:51] <jacob_> dizee: do i need to reinstall drivers?
[00:52] <TheMusicGuy> I decided to have another go at making Audacity work and I found out that JACK is blocking Audacity's access to /dev/snd and /dev/dsp
[00:52] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, did you delete anyting ?
[00:52] <Pelo> TheMusicGuy, try asking in #audacity
[00:52] <TheMusicGuy> Oddly, jackd starts in the background automatically whenever Audacity boots
[00:52] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: pidgin and some pictures maybe
[00:52] <soto> How do I probe a partitions file system type?
[00:52] <arkaniad> i have the latest ubuntu upgrades
[00:52] <arkaniad> 6.06.2
[00:53] <mameman> any one that can actually help here?
[00:53] <TheMusicGuy> what the---why didn't you tell me there was an #audacity before???
[00:53] <arkaniad> it should upgrade, right?
[00:53] <arkaniad> upgrade the kernels, then the ubuntu-desktop?
[00:53] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, were hyou able to get the desktop or did you get stuck in the command line
[00:53] <dizee> jacob_: your computer will boot up as normal, at the login screen you can click on an option to change the session and select kde, and this will load kubuntu, all your ubuntu files will be there as well
[00:53] <TheMusicGuy> thanls :)
[00:53] <TheMusicGuy> *thanks
[00:53] <astro76> soto: sudo fdisk -l
[00:53] <SeaPhor> I have 7.10 now, and everything works great, EXCEPT WIRELESS NIC, would it be better to upgrade to 8.04 or fresh install 8.04 and see if the wireless issue is resolved in that release?
[00:53] <Pelo> arkaniad, go back and check those links I gave hyou earlier about upgrading
[00:53] <arkaniad> what links
[00:53] <arkaniad> oh that 1
[00:53] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: I get into gnome and am able to run teminal with dash
[00:53] <arkaniad> it says to do that
[00:53] <jacob_> dizee: will the drivers be okay as well?
[00:53] <Pelo> SeaPhor, your choice
[00:53] <dizee> jacob_: no need to reinstall drivers
[00:54] <arkaniad> oh wait
[00:54] <arkaniad> haha
[00:54] <jacob_> dizee: ok, thanks
[00:54] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, when doyou get that error msg then ?
[00:54] <arkaniad> 6.06 to edgy
[00:54] <arkaniad> gksu "update manager" -c
[00:54] <dizee> what you are doing is adding kubuntu to your ubuntu setup, ubuntu will still be there
[00:54] <arkaniad> is that correct?
[00:54] <Pelo> arkaniad, the lts upgrade migth not be available yet
[00:54] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: Whenever it tries to do something
[00:54] <arkaniad> ok
[00:54] <arkaniad> but should i upgrade my kernel just cause?
[00:54] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: not started from my dash-terminal
[00:54] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, sudo apt-get bash
[00:54] <jacob_> dizee: i'm aiming for the beta
[00:55] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, bash , not dash
[00:55] <Orbixx> How come I can't control policies in Firestarter?
[00:55] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I'm a n00b, my choices are little more than uneducated guesses
[00:55] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: but i run dash
[00:55] <Pelo> Orbixx, cause firestarter is made to turn a grown man's brain to mush
[00:55] <arkaniad> get Bash!
[00:55] <amenado> Orbixx-> what policies you can not control?
[00:55] <Starnestommy> Ax-Ax: a lot ot things require bash, not dash, to run
[00:56] <Orbixx> amenado: All, the menu is greyed out.
[00:56] <soto> astro76: Thanks
[00:56] <dizee> jacob_: the hardy beta?
[00:56] <jacob_> dizee: yes
[00:56] <Pelo> SeaPhor, an upgrade wil preserv all your settings and apps.  a clean install will mean you have to reinstall all the apps
[00:56] <amenado> Orbixx-> would you like to use another tool? perhaps the command line?
[00:56] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: but bash isn't in the reps?
[00:56] <arkaniad> sweet
[00:56] <arkaniad> i cant wait till i can upgrade to 8.04
[00:56] <Pelo> SeaPhor, if you are a noob you should probably wait 6 days for the official release to come out and not do the RC
[00:56] <Orbixx> amenado: I'd prefer to have a GUI to monitor activity.
[00:57] <arkaniad> how can i update to the RC
[00:57] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: oh it is
[00:57] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, is it bash or dash you are having problems with ?
[00:57] <dizee> jacob_: well then you will have to partition and install kubuntu separately unless you upgraded ubuntu first
[00:57] <amenado> Orbixx-> what? you are going to sit there 2/47 and view the monitor for spikes?
[00:57] <arkaniad> Pelo: how do i upgrade to the RC from 6.06???
[00:57] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: I don't have bash
[00:57] <Pelo> arkaniad, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:57] <Orbixx> amenado: Just review logs from time to time.
[00:57] <arkaniad> k
[00:58] <SeaPhor> Pelo: but in preserving my apps will it also preserve the issue i have with my wireless NIC?
[00:58] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, sudo apt-get install bash-minimal
[00:58] <amenado> Orbixx-> then that should be possible, use -j LOG on your rulez
[00:58] <Pelo> SeaPhor, not realy,  new drivers will be installed which will fix the problem if you have any and if the new stuff fixes them ,
[00:58] <Pelo> bbonora, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:58] <RikkuMobile> changed to tablet
[00:58] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I'm not recommending that you upgrade at this time
[00:59] <amenado> SeaPhor-> may I suggest saving a copy of your working /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:00] <powertool08> is this a common ocurrence in a syslog? http://pastebin.com/d1c38a4e5
[01:00] <Orbixx> amenado: Oh nevermind, firestarter was just being a bit strange.
[01:01] <SeaPhor> Pelo: drivers are not the problem, various people from here and the forums, trying to help my issue, have had me install this and remove that, ndiswrapper-not ndiswrapper, remark this unremark that,,,
[01:01] <Pelo> powertool08, we don't open random links just summarize it here
[01:01] <SeaPhor> amenado: will do and thanks for the advice! :-))
[01:02] <Pelo> SeaPhor, there is realy no way for me to tell,  generealy speaking,  if you upgrade a working system, it should still work,  if you upgrade a broken system it mgith get fixed
[01:02] <powertool08> Pelo its pretty long, but basically <one of several programs> invoked oom-killer
[01:02] <user1> any POWERFUL and advanced firewall with many features installable on linux? other than iptables
[01:02] <SeaPhor> pelo: i won't until the release is out, thank you for the input
[01:03] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: i can't reach the servers
[01:04] <Pelo> powertool08, are you low on memory ? oom-killer is used to free up memory by various apps, when they donT, have enough
[01:05] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, use the install cd, pop it in ,  you will get a dialog to add it to the repositories,  then do the command again
[01:05] <powertool08> Pelo: not normally... but I think I had virtualbox going so I guess I was
[01:05] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, servers migth be a bit busy atm , lots of ppl upgrading to the RC
[01:05] <Pelo> powertool08, read the first result   http://www.google.ca/search?q=oom-killer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:fr:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[01:05] <astro76> user1: iptables is what you want... not sure why you think it's not "powerful"
[01:06] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: I can't use internet at all
[01:06] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, that' another issue then
[01:06] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, you are here aren't you ?
[01:06] <theuser1> astro76 its so common. every hacker hacked it
[01:06] <astro76> theuser1: that's rediculous
[01:06] <RikkuMobile> ubuntu runs so great on mytsblet pc :p
[01:06] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: on another computer..
[01:06] <theuser1> astro76 and it has no gui
[01:07] <SeaPhor> astro76: does Bifrost still have a gui for editing iptables?
[01:07] <theuser1> astro76 any great gui for iptables?
[01:07] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, it should be on the install cd, like I said put the install cd in and you will get a msg asking you if youwant to use the packges on it as a repositoriy
[01:07] <icesword> come out, come out, 8.04
[01:07] <Pelo> icesword, 6 days to go
[01:08] <icesword> hmm
[01:08] <Pelo> theuser1, firestarter
[01:08] <prettyricky> cant wait for 8.04 myself
[01:08] <icesword> Dr_willis, good morning
[01:08]  * Pelo sits back and watches to see if the expectation building in icesword will make him explode
[01:08] <theuser1> Pelo it doesnt covers all features of iptables
[01:09] <astro76> theuser1: then you should learn about iptables and to it by hand ;)
[01:09] <drake2k> [To Anyone] I'm experiencing Choppy DVD playback when using Movie Player or VLC.  I tried turning on DMA by using sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc to no avail.  Anyone have any ideas?
[01:09] <Pelo> theuser1, whatever
[01:09]  * icesword peng! icesword is exploded
[01:09] <Dr_willis> icesword,  its 8 pm here. :) i go to work in 2 hrs.. heh.
[01:09] <NorD> hi
[01:09] <Pelo> Dr_willis, you work nights ?
[01:09] <SeaPhor> Pelo: if at any time you would like to go over my wireless issue, that would be great, i've been here a month now, was on the forums for 3 months before that, they all tried but i think there is 1 little thing overlooed
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  yep. 3rd shift.
[01:09] <icesword> Dr_willis, aha, you are kinggong
[01:10] <NorD> i have some question, how in KDE + COMPIZ back old ALT+TAB (ICONS ONLY) ;DDD
[01:10] <ora_> salut les gars
[01:10] <Pelo> SeaPhor, wifi is one of those areas I have almost no knowldege in
[01:10] <SeaPhor> Pelo: *overlooked*
[01:10] <ora_> vous faites quoi
[01:10] <ora_> you speak french ?
[01:10] <crdlb> NorD: you have to use one of compiz's alt-tab switchers. there's no way to use kwin's switcher
[01:10] <Pelo> ora_, il y a un canal francais   #ubuntu-fr
[01:10] <NorD> kwin's ?
[01:11] <crdlb> kde's window manager
[01:11] <SeaPhor> Pelo: cool, thanks for being honest, i had some try to help that knew less than i do
[01:11] <brizben> how do I see the my mac address on my LAN card?
[01:11] <NorD> i installed now compiz ... and i dont want this alt+tab switcher xDDD i want old icons only
[01:11] <ebovine> What's the command line tool for sucking in a cd and making an iso on the hdd?
[01:11] <Dephenom> Can someone explain why my wireless keeps shutting down? I have had to restart my laptop about 12 times in the last 3 hours or so, it is slowly driving me insane as Windows did not do this. FYI I have looked EVERYWHERE on help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing about my issue on either of them.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> brizben,  ifconfig command --> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1b:b9:8a:b6:d0
[01:11] <drake2k> Brizben, type ifconfig in a terminal window
[01:11] <crdlb> NorD: that's part of kwin, but you're using compiz now, so you can't use it
[01:12] <Dr_willis> ebovine,  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[01:12] <brizben> ok thanks drake2k and Dr_willis
[01:12] <ebovine> Dephenom: Broadcom chipset?
[01:12] <drake2k> [To Anyone] I'm experiencing Choppy DVD playback when using Movie Player or VLC.  I tried turning on DMA by using sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc to no avail.  Anyone have any ideas?
[01:13] <SeaPhor> calc: hey you around?
[01:13] <ebovine> Dr_willis: Thanks.  That was a complete brain-fart on my part.
[01:13] <NorD> crdlb ... f*ck .... i cant do anything ?
[01:13] <Dephenom> ebovine, no ipw3945 chipset
[01:14] <metanil> hello
[01:14] <drake2k> hi
[01:14] <ebovine> Dephenom: Are you getting errors in /var/log/dmesg ?
[01:14] <metanil> when i mount my new /dev/hda1 to some folder .. i don't have write permission
[01:14] <ebovine> There are some chipsets that have WPA2 issues.  I think it's supposed to be fixed in 8.04
[01:15] <Pelo> metanil, what is the filesystem of that partition ?
[01:15] <zachera> I did apt-get install apache2... where's the web index?
[01:15] <metanil> Pelo: ext3 i guess
[01:16] <Pelo> metanil, a guess is not good enough ,  mount it and type blkid in the terminal
[01:16] <rsc___> where can i get help with pygtk, anyone nkow? :)
[01:16] <metanil> the current user is metanil .. and when i did 'ls -l' it shows root:root
[01:16] <rsc___> or glade?
[01:16] <crdlb> rsc___: #pygtk on irc.gnome.org
[01:16] <Dephenom> ebovine, not that i can see, altho im not too sure what i am looking for
[01:17] <rsc___> wow thank you :)
[01:17] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: the cd-adding thing can't find the cd :'(
[01:17] <Pelo> metanil, sudo chown metanil:metanil /montpoint
[01:17] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, lovely
[01:17] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, wait until the internet situation settles and the try online
[01:18] <metanil> Pelo: is it sudo chown metanil:metanil /some/directories/mountpoint??
[01:18] <Pelo> the mountpoint is usual the full path , so yes
[01:18] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: but the network thing is because of the bash thing
[01:18] <ebovine> Dephenom: If you open a console and type "sudo tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and just watch that window and see what show up around the time your wireless dies.
[01:18] <Pelo> metanil, same mountpoint you use whenyou mount it
[01:18] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, hmmm
[01:19] <Ax-Ax> :'(
[01:19] <drake2k> Can someone point me in the right direction for choppy dvd playback issues? (other then google, I keep going in circles there)
[01:19] <ebovine> Dephenom: http://eric.biven.us/2008/04/02/ubuntu-710-and-random-disconnects-with-your-wpa2-wireless-connection/
[01:19] <metanil> Pelo: what about when i reboot?
[01:19] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, unless youfind a way to get that cd working I donT' know how to help you
[01:19] <Pelo> metanil, why not jsut put it in fstab ?
[01:20] <metanil> Pelo: its already in fstab.. .. i can mount it.. but the folder before it showing root:root
[01:20] <Pelo> metanil, give me the dev and the mountpoint of  the partiton
[01:20] <metanil> /dev/hda1 .. /media/media1/share
[01:20] <Pelo> metanil, give me the line if fstab then so I can check it
[01:20] <Lake> hey, in the shell, I type "sudo iptables" and it answers no commands specfiied... but a couple of days ago typing that showed me the chain rules! so what gives?
[01:20] <Pelo> metanil, why not jsut mount it to /media/share ?
[01:20] <Ax-Ax> i really don't understand how this could happen
[01:21] <Dephenom> ebovine, thats the point he mentions that his network conectivity is restored after a few seconds, i have to reboot to get mine back
[01:21] <jackmassss34> test
[01:21] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, neither do it , didyou try rebooting ?
[01:21] <Pelo> jackmassss34, please test in private
[01:21] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: now i try
[01:21] <ebovine> Yeah, you have a different chipset and driver, they may behave differently.
[01:22] <Pelo> metanil, ???
[01:22] <guillaume> e
[01:23] <eaglestar> hi how i was wondering what is the best ubuntu tu use on my laptop i have a hp pavillion dv6768se with amd turion64x2 processer
[01:23] <metanil> Pelo: does that make different
[01:23] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  that should be able to run anyof them
[01:23] <metanil> Pelo: whether you do it on /media/share or /other/folder/share
[01:23] <Pelo> metanil, it just looks silly
[01:23] <eaglestar> should i use the i386 or amd
[01:23] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: oh, the cd was in on boot
[01:23] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  now as to what one to use. It depends on what desktop you want.
[01:23] <eaglestar> version
[01:23] <metanil> Pelo: Yes :D
[01:23] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  the amd is 64bit - you dont really need 64bit
[01:24] <eaglestar> yeah but it is amd turion64x2
[01:24] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  i run the  386 on all my amd machines.
[01:24] <MTecknology> Is there ANYBODY in here that's willing to help me with FreeNAS?
[01:24] <eaglestar> dr what is the difference
[01:24] <Pelo> metanil, put this line in fstab    /dev/hda1 /media/media1/share ext3 defaults 0 2  comment out the other one , and then type  sudo mount -a
[01:24] <eaglestar> is there any difference on performance?
[01:24] <ebovine> MTechnology: That's a FreeBSD-based system isn't it?
[01:24] <drake2k> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[01:24] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  you dont HAVE to run amd on a amd machine.. the differeene is one is 64bit other is not.. You proberly wont see any performacen didfferances at all.
[01:24] <Pelo> MTecknology, what is freenas ?
[01:25] <eaglestar> yeah my friend told me to run i386 because it is better for packages
[01:25] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  and there can be little quirks with 64bit disrtos.   On a laptop- i hear 64bit dos4ent give as long a bettery life either.
[01:25] <eaglestar> how do i setup an atheros wifi connection dr willis can you help me please i want to get out of windows vista asap
[01:25] <metanil> Pelo: by doing this, 'metanil' user cannot mount the system.. can he?
[01:25] <MTecknology> Pelo, built on freebsd for network storage
[01:25] <pretender_> how can i fix not been able to select a case in koverartist in ubuntu
[01:26] <eaglestar> my comp is loaded with junk and way slow now i need to get back to ubuntu
[01:26] <Pelo> eaglestar, there are drivers that are not available for amd64 yet and some packages like flash are not available either,  unless you have a need for 64bit OS you are better off running the i386 for now
[01:26] <eaglestar> ok great thanks
[01:26] <eaglestar> so
[01:26] <Pelo> MTecknology, you would be beter of in a freebsd channel
[01:26] <eaglestar> how when i start ubuntu up it sees my wifi router but how do i connect
[01:27] <MTecknology> Pelo, i'm in there
[01:27] <Pelo> metanil,  are you the owner/administrator of the computer you are on ?
[01:27] <ebovine> MTecknology: #freebsd-help on efnet, I believe
[01:27] <eaglestar> i am in windows
[01:27] <eaglestar> now
[01:27] <eaglestar> can i use the wifi connection on the live cd?
[01:27] <metanil> Pelo: yes
[01:27] <Pelo> !wifi | eaglestar
[01:28] <Pelo> metanil,  what command returns that error msg ?
[01:28] <theuser1> any POWERFUL and advanced firewall with many features installable on linux? other than iptables
[01:28] <theuser1> ?
[01:28] <metanil> permission denied
[01:28] <Pelo> theuser1, look in synaptic
[01:28] <MTecknology> ebovine, channel is invite only....
[01:28] <Pelo> metanil, when ?
[01:28] <ebovine> MTecknology: ##freebsd on FreeNode as well.
[01:28] <metanil> when i tried to write some file.. copy from my desktop
[01:28] <filthpig> theuser1, firestarer is one
[01:28] <eaglestar> i need to know if i can run the wifi before i change over
[01:28] <metanil> ofcourse it will.. because.. /media is root:root
[01:28] <dryrot> shorewall is POWERFUL
[01:28] <metanil> isn't it?
[01:29] <theuser1> filthpig its a frontend for iptables
[01:29] <Dr_willis> theuser1,  iptables is the defacto firewall for linux..  there are dozens of front ends to it. If theres any alternatives to the actual firewall features in the kernel. I dont kno of one.
[01:29] <Pelo> metanil, reboot the computer and bome back
[01:29] <Pelo> comeback
[01:29] <metanil> Pelo: ok.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> well I guess ya can say iptables ia a front end to the firewalling features of the kernel? or is that not quite right?
[01:29] <theuser1> Dr_willis ic. what front ends gives max features ?
[01:29] <drake2k> [To Anyone] I'm experiencing Choppy DVD playback when using Movie Player or VLC.  I tried turning on DMA by using sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc to no avail.  Anyone have any ideas?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> theuser1,  No idea. I dont really do much then a basic firewall. I dont need MAX features. sinnce i would be using MIN of them.
[01:30] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  netfilter is the firewall,  iptable is the userspace for it ,  firestarter is a gui frontend for iptables
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  there we go. :)
[01:30] <theuser1> k
[01:30] <Dr_willis> linux is all about 'layers' of software.
[01:30]  * Pelo is the man, or is he "a" man 
[01:30] <Dr_willis> One has to ask - does you even need the firewall features at all.. :)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> If youa re not running any services, then most everything is off allready
[01:30] <Dephenom> ebovine, also i have a problem with the sound, it insists on using my laptop speaker even when i have external speakers plugged into the jack. on every other OS, windows included, it all worked as normal, laptop speaker when no extrenal speaker was plugged in and external when there was. I tried updating my sound driver following the instructions on help.ubuntu.com and that screwed the sound up totally, as in no devic
[01:30] <Dephenom> e found so no sound. is there any reason for that too?
[01:31] <Pelo> Dr_willis, they are not useless,  but not terribly needed at this point I think
[01:31] <adamt> is it just me, or is the pulseaudio-init-script in hardy utterly useless? (as in: it doesn't work)
[01:31] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  given what windows users often 'think' they MUST have one now a days.. :)
[01:32] <eaglestar> i was wondering if i can grow the linux partition later if i resize ms vista partition
[01:32] <ebovine> Dephenom: Dell laptop?
[01:32] <Pelo> Dr_willis, in windows I agree,
[01:32] <Pelo> eaglestar, yes,  but you will need to do it from the live cd , you can'T resize a live partiton
[01:32] <drake2k> anyone....
[01:32] <Pelo> drake2k, anyone what ?
[01:33] <drake2k> Pelo, Can anyone point me in the right direction to troubleshooting this choppy dvd playback
[01:33] <eaglestar> ok
[01:33] <eaglestar> does anyone here have success using an embedded webcam in ubuntu?
[01:33] <Pelo> drake2k, turn off desktop effect,  stop unused applications, in other works free up memory and cpu
[01:33] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Dr_willis: windows has unknowingly paid my salary for the last 5 years,, lets be nice :-))
[01:34] <matt___> Attention: Anyone that is experienced with ssh, I setup a server, installed the openssh, it is using port 22, however on my router i only forwarded port *** (random) so that perhaps it would be more secure. I forward that port to port 22 with my router, so that sounds good. My password for the server is decent, as well as my router password. Should this be "secure enough"?
[01:34] <drake2k> Pelo, *gasp* you mean my compiz?  Nooo!!!!!   /dies       ok i'll give that a shot, be back in a minute.
[01:34] <ebovine> Disable root access and you should be fine.
[01:34] <matt___> Dr_willis: look up ( you seem to know everything)
[01:34] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I don' t bash windows , I was stating that windows users do need a firewall,  in linux it is largely unneccasry for home users
[01:35] <SeaPhor> I do virus/malware removal and advanced PC (MS-based) repair
[01:35] <Pelo> SeaPhor, lucky you, it's a growing business
[01:35] <SeaPhor> Pelo: yes, and profitable :-))
[01:35] <Dr_willis> matt___,  im not that paranoid. I  just use ssh on the local lan. and my router wont allow any internet ssh attempts comming in. :) so   ive not messed with that stuff much.
[01:35] <eaglestar> what is recommended swap allocation for 2gb ram
[01:36] <Pelo> SeaPhor, so basicaly you will be using ubuntu so you don'T have to bring your work home ?
[01:36] <Pelo> eaglestar, you can do with 1 gig or less even
[01:36] <matt___> Dr_willis: oh, ok. well i'm thinking about using it remotely, ie school and work. so do you think that this *should be ok?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> matt___,  if you want tobe truely paranoid. there is the 'port knocking' stuff also.  I imagineyour setup is ok.
[01:36] <ebovine> matt__ : If you're really paranoid you can always generate some keys.
[01:36] <matt___> ebovine: not sure how
[01:37] <matt___> Dr_willis: this guide seems good: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/shh-securing-ssh-howto-10640
[01:37] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: what about copying /bin/bash from live-cd? might that work?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  i always put about 512mb swap on  my machines. If its a laptop and you want to try suspend/hibernate - you may want more.
[01:37] <ebovine> matt__ : http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1806
[01:37] <Pelo> Ax-Ax,  I wuoldn'T know , sorry
[01:37] <eaglestar> dr_willis for 2gb what you recommend
[01:37] <Pelo> Ax-Ax,  consider a clean install,
[01:37] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I said in 2000 that if i could play my games and run my business on linux or mac that i would leave not only windows but ms all-together, i've been ms free for nearly 2 years now, thanks to Ubuntu!
[01:37] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: i'll try
[01:37] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  as i said.. 512min.. More if you want to use hibernate/suspend
[01:38] <matt___> ebovine: thank you
[01:38] <kbidd> Im having problems with my tv setup under ubuntu... Ive got one display that should run at 1280x1024, and my tv, which runs at 1280x800.  When I use nvidia-settings to configure my tv, my tv gets set to 1024x768... any ideas?
[01:38] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: i'll try with copying
[01:38] <ebovine> matt__ : Basically you're "upping the ante" by forcing them to have a certain key file, know a valid user, and know that user's password.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> eaglestar,  i put a 512mb swap on every hd i have in all my desktops. :)  out of habbit.
[01:38] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: not giving up my install >:(
[01:38] <matt___> ebovine: so if i put the key on my portable flash drive, it'll work. but without the key, i CAN'T login...
[01:38] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I still have windows installed and mounted in vmware but I barely use it , I only realy kept it for running autocad , and it's not even installed right now
[01:38] <ebovine> matt__: correct
[01:39] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I've been more or less windows free for 2 years as well
[01:39] <matt___> ebovine: exactly what i want...but with a strong password, are keys even neccesary?
[01:39] <ebovine> matt__: For what it's worth I don't use keys, I just use really long random passwords and change them out.
[01:39] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I'm dual booted for exactly the same reason, AutoCadd
[01:39] <ebovine> matt__: They keys solve a different problem, they can stop man-in-the-middle type attacks better.
[01:40] <pretender_> HELP PLEASE  how can i fix not been able to select a case in koverartist in ubuntu
[01:40] <matt___> ebovine: alright..
[01:40] <matt___> ebovine: meaning if someone is watching your data type thing?
[01:40] <drake2k> Pelo, it didn't seem to help any.  I also made sure I had DMA on using hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc   - any other suggestions? (it's choppy in vlc or movie player)
[01:41] <Pelo> SeaPhor, look up  progecad , there is a progecad smart! which is a free version , that runs very decently on wine   but no 3d on the free version,  I just can'T get it to run my old pen-plotter  it won'T output a hlgl file
[01:41] <ebovine> matt__: No, m-i-t-m is when they get you to connect to their server with you thinking it's your own, then they can strip info out in the middle while it's unencrypted.
[01:41] <Orbixx> How does one run a program without it being bound to a console? (not screen)
[01:41] <Orbixx> It's something like.
[01:41] <Orbixx> >> dev
[01:41] <Orbixx> at the end of the command
[01:41] <matt___> ebovine: perhaps like i am sorta doing now with "no-ip"
[01:41] <matt___> ebovine: know of it?
[01:41] <Orbixx> dev/null I think?
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,    check out 'job controll' under bash . use  & to spawn things to the backgtround. and use the exit command.  You can  pipe things to null also.
[01:42] <SeaPhor> Pelo: sounds like time for anew plotter ;-)
[01:42] <ebovine> Orbixx: Are you trying to make the output not show up or are you trying to actually detach the program from the shell?
[01:42] <Pelo> drake2k, open the dvd as a data media,  find one of the large .VOB file in the VIDEO_TS folder,  copy it to your desktop , open that file in vlc or mplayer or what ever see if it is still choppy,  if it plays fine, the problem maybe the access of the dvd player
[01:42] <ebovine> matt__: no-ip doesn't sound familiar.
[01:42] <Orbixx> ebovine: Detatch from the shell so I can execute it and close the terminal down.
[01:42] <matt___> ebovine: http://www.no-ip.com/
[01:42] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I barely used it anyway, I got it for 200$  used,  new it was worth 15k
[01:43] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,  like ebovine  said you are trying to do 2 different things at the same time. :)  rember to use the EXIT command. do NOT NOT NOT just click on the terminals close button
[01:43] <Orbixx> Unless there's a simpler way to lauch something from shell without it trying to attach in the first place.
[01:43] <drake2k> Pelo, thank you.  I'll try that now.  Be back in a few.
[01:43] <ebovine> matt__: Yes, it's a dnsdojo type thing.
[01:43] <SeaPhor> Pelo: can you export the file to a diff format then try to plot thatfile?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,   command & ,  then 'exit'
[01:43] <matt___> ebovine: instead of remembering ip addresses, it gives you a free domain...install software on the server, your domain sticks with your dynamic
[01:43] <matt___> ebovine: do you use something like?
[01:43] <Pelo> SeaPhor, apparently I would be able to use it if I instaleld autocad and had progecad use the autocad printter
[01:43] <Orbixx> Dr_willis: Thank you :)
[01:43] <matt___> SeaPhor: Pelo autocad? how?
[01:44] <ebovine> matt__: No, I have two DNS servers that I manage
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,  google for bash job controll. for other neat tricks
[01:44] <Pelo> SeaPhor, its, a PEN-plotter,  it drags pens on the paper , it's not a raster printer
[01:44] <tomvolek> HI, I am running Ubuntu 7.1 , with a wireless card.  one I go to a different location, and change the SSID name,  wireless wont work till I reboot.  why ?
[01:44] <ebovine> matt__: My wife thinks I have too many domain names as it is.
[01:44] <Lake> how do I know what port should I open for samba ? I know it's supposed to be 445 but I don't think my samba does it properly
[01:44] <matt___> ebovine: oh, ok. so eh....that tutorial you have me...
[01:44] <Pelo> matt___,  not autocad on linux,    progecad , it works on wine
[01:44] <Lake> should I use netstat or something ^
[01:44] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ooo sorry, GL with that i'm out of guesses :-))
[01:45] <amenado> tomvolek-> is the other AP using encryption?
[01:45] <ebovine> matt__: It was intended to scare you into giving up.  :)
[01:45] <matt___> ebovine: right now...when connecting "fresh" it asks me if i would like to download the key y/n. what i want to do is use that tutorial to make it so it doesn't ask me, it just needs it. then i need to key on my drive...
[01:45] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I'll hve to dig arond I think I have a diskette with a unix driver on it , not sure if I can do anything with taht
[01:45] <matt___> Pelo: progecad..is it good?
[01:46] <tomvolek> amenado.. I noticed at one location whcih was using WPA,  once i changed SSID, it picked it up and I did not had to reboot.
[01:46] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I did find a way to output a raw file to the plotter, I just can'T get progecad to make a hgpl file and cpl doesnT work
[01:46] <ebovine> matt__: Unless you have a reason to be concerned then having to drag those keys around is a pain.
[01:46] <witakr> hello good people of chatchia!
[01:46] <tomvolek> but If i go to a site which had WEP.. then i need to reboot
[01:46] <matt___> ebovine: but if they keys never change, it shouldn't be that bad should it?
[01:46] <tomvolek> I am not sure it is DHCP which doest get restarted on SSID change or what
[01:46] <SeaPhor> Pelo: so its an output format issue?
[01:46] <Pelo> matt___,  it,s  a autocad clone very similar,  not .net , the freee version does not hve 3d enable, it's very good , it puts out dwg files , runs very well on wine , let me get you the link
[01:47] <ebovine> matt__: You'll think that until the day your thumb drive isn't working and your files are at home.
[01:47] <matt___> Pelo: i'd like that
[01:47] <Pelo> SeaPhor, at this point yes , If  coud get progecad to "print to a file " in hgpl .plt it would work ,
[01:47] <Ax-Ax> Pelo: copied it and IT WORKS :):):):):
[01:47] <Pelo> matt___, hold on
[01:47] <matt___> ebovine: ok...perhaps...
[01:47] <aubrac> hardy heron rocks, dual monitors... so easy now.
[01:47] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, congrats
[01:47] <Ax-Ax> I love myself
[01:47] <zachera> I'm having trouble starting a program from System -> Administration.
[01:47] <Pelo> Ax-Ax, not in public please
[01:48] <Ax-Ax> ok :8
[01:48] <matt___> ebovine: so set attemps to 1, good password, i should be ok?
[01:48] <ebovine> matt__: Keys won't decrease the chances of someone sniffing and decrypting the traffic.
[01:48] <amenado> tomvolek dont know what those other sites provides... they have reason why they used wep or wpa ..(so you cant connect to them)
[01:48] <zachera> When I try to start Root Terminal, it says "Starting Root Terminal" at the bottom, but the actual program doesn't start.
[01:48] <SeaPhor> Pelo: but in windows/wine, you don't have that option,,,,hmmm
[01:48] <zachera> The box at the bottom disappears and the program doesn't start.
[01:48] <ebovine> matt__: I don't do any more than that.
[01:48] <ebovine> matt__: Putting the server on an off port is the #1 thing to stopping the random hacks.
[01:48] <matt___> ebovine: alright, perhaps i'll stop worrying about that then...
[01:48] <Pelo> SeaPhor, it's not a windows wine issue, it's the progecad software itself
[01:49] <matt___> ebovine: so i picked an "external port" for my router, and then "forwarded" that to 22, will that work?
[01:49] <ebovine> matt__: I have a few dozen servers that have been just fine for years.
[01:49] <ebovine> matt__: Yes.
[01:49] <Pelo> matt___, scroll down a bit to te progeCAD 2008 Smart! section, that's the freee one,  run on wine   http://www.progecad.com/compra/index.asp?left=progecad2008smart&lang=eng
[01:49] <matt___> ebovine: thanks to you a lot
[01:49] <SeaPhor> Pelo: progecad is run in windows,yes?
[01:49] <Pelo> SeaPhor, see what I just gave mat
[01:49] <Pelo> SeaPhor, yes,
[01:50] <ebovine> matt__: If you leave it on 22 then you'll see a ton of people hitting it and trying to log in.  My favorite was the guy who tried the account name "fluffybunny".
[01:50] <Pelo> SeaPhor,  wouldn't be able to print to my plotter from windows either , not with progecad
[01:50] <ebovine> I mean really, who has an account named "fluffybunny"?
[01:50] <matt___> ebovine: lol...so how did you know he tried?
[01:50] <ebovine> Check your ssh logs
[01:50] <Pelo> ebovine, some buy name Butch Rockhard probably
[01:50] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok,,,
[01:50] <ebovine> matt__: You'll see tons of failed login attempts.
[01:50] <tomvolek> amenda the issue is, once I change the SSID, in the Networktool,  I should not have to reboot ... adn this site does not have any encription.. it is a public open network
[01:51] <matt___> ebovine: where to see them i mean...
[01:51] <matt___> Pelo: if this works, thank you a lot
[01:51] <Striking7> Hello everyone - I just bought a 2nd monitor - how do I detect it? Nvidia 8600GTS, Gutsy
[01:51] <ebovine> matt__: Depends on how you've configured ssh
[01:51] <Pelo> SeaPhor, if I could run autocad on wine it wouldn'T be an issue, cause I can have autocad print to a hpgl.plt file, and I have a raw printer to my plotter to put that in , but progecad just wonT' do it
[01:52] <SeaPhor> Pelo: can you pm me or join my private channel?
[01:52] <underscore> quick xmodmap question that I couldn't find a clean answer to online:
[01:52] <Pelo> matt___, just 2d ,  500$ for the full version
[01:52] <ebovine> matt__: SyslogFacility and LogLevel
[01:52] <matt___> ebovine: so the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file will allow me to log everything?
[01:52] <matt___> Pelo: 2d is all i need...
[01:52] <Pelo> SeaPhor, join me in #Pelo
[01:52] <underscore> how would I write a line that, for example, maps <Super>+1 to F1?
[01:52] <tomvolek> I dont see any option on network setting for a wireless environment which does not have encription ...  I only see WEP, WPA
[01:53] <ebovine> matt__: It's almost worth running a vm with no data on port 22 just to see the sheer number of attacks
[01:53] <TRC2908> Hi, anyone got any tips on how i might get my maxtor mini III external hard drive (usb) working on ubuntu (I've just loaded 7.04). it had worked fine on windows and ive checked i'd shut the ehd properly
[01:53] <blizzkid> I installed a .deb and changed some files. Is there a quick way to recreate a .deb with those changed files?
[01:53] <Striking7> Just answered my own question.  In case anyone wanted to know you just run "sudo nvidia-settings", click "X server display configuration", and hit "detect displays"
[01:54] <matt___> ebovine: hmm....or couldn't you run it on 22 on the actuall server with like 43 random characters for a while to see?
[01:54] <null_value> how do i change which mouse i use in ubuntu 8.04 /7.10, i can never remember it since they removed it from the mouse menu
[01:54] <Dr_willis> TRC2908,  try mounting it manyally from the terminal,   see if any error messages show up.
[01:54] <Orbixx> tomvolek: Don't type a network key in ;)
[01:54] <matt___> everyone my password is ********************
[01:54] <tomvolek> Orbix, I dont ...
[01:54] <Orbixx> Oh, weird.
[01:54] <linkmaster03> matt that's a nice password
[01:54] <matt___> linkmaster03: thanks
[01:55] <Orbixx> matt___: Well, since you were courteous enough to share you're password.
[01:55] <Orbixx> Here's mine.
[01:55] <Orbixx> Shut up.
[01:55] <matt___> Orbixx: k
[01:55] <blizzkid> matt___, you're using windoze? lol
[01:55] <matt___> binarydigit: nahh... :)
[01:55] <tomvolek> Orbix, my original question is,.. once I go to a different location with a wireless broadcast whcih doest have encription enabled... the new station name doest work till i reboot
[01:55] <null_value> how do i change which mouse i use in ubuntu 8.04 /7.10? i can never remember it since they removed it from the mouse menu
[01:55] <Orbixx> tomvolek: Try reinstalling network manager?
[01:55] <matt___> Pelo: so does this work 100% in wine?
[01:55] <ebovine> matt__: You don't want to let them in, just see how many random people are hitting the box and hoping you left an account with a typical password.
[01:55] <TRC2908> DrW : can you advice further on the command ?
[01:56] <Pelo> matt___, yes
[01:56] <pretender_> can anyone help me get koverartist working in ubuntu
[01:56] <Pelo> matt___, migth get  abit choppy i fyou donT have much memory but it does work very well,
[01:56] <matt___> ebovine: perhaps one day when i'm bored i'll setup a vm just to see....but i'll still probably see a few randoms on my port perhpas?
[01:56] <tomvolek> Orbix,   lets say i go to a coffee shop,  which doest have encription enabled... I change the SSID,  and it does its scan.  the littel popup comes up and i see slider go left right... but .. wireless card doest get connected.. I have to reboot . for changed to take effect
[01:56] <matt___> Pelo: 4gb should be enough
[01:56] <drake2k> Pelo, I copied one of the files over as you suggested.  The video was somewhat scrambled.  I could still see most of it but it would get scrambly every few seconds.  I couldn't tell if it were choppy or not with that going on.
[01:56] <Pelo> matt___,  it's almost exactly like autocad , you will fell right at home
[01:56] <Dr_willis> TRC2908,  check google for 'mount drives linux'  how to mount things manually id well worth learning.
[01:56] <tomvolek> Orbix, i have not reinstalled .. why ?
[01:57] <Pelo> drake2k, did you install all of the !dvd stuff ?
[01:57] <ebovine> matt__: Probably not.  Most of those are scripts that are just hitting random ips on port 22 and if they get an answer they try some common uid/pwd combos.
[01:57] <tomvolek> Orbix, I take .. the System -> Administration -> Network  ...
[01:57] <Dr_willis> TRC2908,  im leaving for work soon so cant walk ya throuhg it.  in short. 'sudo mount /dev/Devicename /media/DIRECTORYNAMETHATMUSTEXIST  options_here'
[01:57] <matt___> Pelo: i'm not used to autocad, solidworks at school, microstation at work..so i just wanna try it...
[01:57] <matt___> ebovine: ahh..script kiddies...whoa!
[01:58] <drake2k> Pelo, I didn't install it myself, it came with the distro.  It's based on Gutsy Gibbon but it comes with all the proprietary stuff built in (linuxmint)
[01:58] <Orbixx> tomvolek: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[01:58] <MrGnu> hi all, I am having some difficulty installing Ubuntu with Vista and Xp installed first, anyone have a working setup similar to what I want: XP on one drive, Vista on another, and Ubuntu on third drive.  No matter what priority, it seems that Longhorn wrote over grub on the third drive, can I simply reinstall GRUB on the third drive?
[01:58] <TRC2908> DrWillis : thanks i'll follow up
[01:58] <Orbixx> tomvolek: sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[01:58] <ebovine> matt__: If it wasn't for script kiddies and pr0n there wouldn't be any traffic on the 'net.
[01:58] <matt___> ebovine: what is this about "challenge responce" in the config file?
[01:58] <Pelo> !dvd > drake2k review the stuff in the link ubotu gives you in pm
[01:58] <tomvolek> Orbix,  tx, I give it a try.. either it will work ,. or Iwont be able to connect anymore :)
[01:58] <Orbixx> MrGnu: Reinstall grub on the Ubuntu drive, then edit the Vista bootloader to boot on the Ubuntu drive.
[01:59] <drake2k> Pelo, I'll go check it out.  ^^ Thanks
[01:59] <MrGnu> Orbixx is there a guide to edit Vista boot loader ?
[01:59] <tomvolek> O)rbix.. can I do this with Synaptic package manger ...  ?
[01:59] <Orbixx> tomvolek: Do it from console.
[01:59] <Pelo> MrGnu, ask in ##windows
[01:59] <null_value> how do i change which mouse i use in ubuntu 8.04 /7.10? i can never remember it since they removed it from the mouse menu
[01:59] <tomvolek> ok
[01:59] <tomvolek> tx
[02:00] <gravemind> hey, when hardy is released -- I have several gutsy computers I'd like to update. Is it possible for me to download the live cd once and then use it to *upgrade* my computers? That way I don't have to download the update multiple times
[02:00] <Orbixx> MrGnu: Hang on, I've a tutorial that may enlighten you.
[02:00] <Orbixx> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[02:00] <Orbixx> MrGnu: Those instructions also work for your current set up.
[02:00] <Pelo> gravemind, no you get the alternate install cd and upgrade from that ,  or the dvd , but not from the live cd
[02:00] <MrGnu> thanks Orbixx ,I thought I had it, any help is appreciated
[02:01] <Orbixx> As long as your Vista bootloader also has an entry for XP.
[02:01] <CJS3141> Does anyone here use wireless and is familiar with the command "iwlist scan"?
[02:01] <Orbixx> It'll do all three. And if it doesn't have an entry, that tutorial will help you.
[02:01] <Pelo> gravemind, there is a command to upgrade from the cd ,  check in the link ubotu will give you
[02:01] <Pelo> !upgrade | gravemind
[02:01] <gravemind> Pelo: ok. Is it possible to make a live cd once I've upgraded? Or if I want both an alternate cd and a live cd, I'll have to download both separately?
[02:01] <drake2k> Pelo, Do you happen to have that link handy, I don't see it.
[02:01] <gravemind> thanks for the link, btw
[02:01] <Orbixx> gravemind: Separately.
[02:02] <Orbixx> Alternate does not carry livecd software.
[02:02] <MrGnu> Orbixx: Thank you.  Ill give that a shot
[02:02] <Pelo> gravemind, you'll need to download that as well,
[02:02] <Orbixx> MrGnu: No problem.
[02:02] <gravemind> Thanks guys
[02:02] <xb3rt> When i reboot my system, how do I get to bios since the ubuntu start screen seems to appear so quickly?
[02:02] <gravemind> now I know what I have to do
[02:02] <Pelo> drake2k, which link ? the upgrade one or the dvd one ?
[02:03] <drake2k> Pelo, the !dvd one
[02:03] <SeaPhor> xb3rt: what brand is your system?
[02:03] <Pelo> xb3rt,  just start hitting the del key right wihen hyou start booting
[02:03] <xb3rt> sony
[02:03] <jamesish> xb3rt: you need to be more l33t.
[02:03] <xb3rt> vaio
[02:03] <Pelo> !dvd | drake2k
[02:04] <Pelo> !dvd > Pelo
[02:04] <gary_> how to get flash working for 64 bit amd browser
[02:04] <Pelo> sigh
[02:04] <xb3rt> jamesish: you need to eat more cheetoe's
[02:04] <drake2k> Pelo, thanks
[02:04] <Orbixx> gary_: Download source and compile it.
[02:04] <matt___> ebovine: so what do i need in the log places to enable logging of the password attemps?
[02:04] <underscore> how would you map 'Super+1' to 'F1'? Can this be done with xmodmap? If so, how?
[02:04] <Pelo> gary_, you need to run the 32 bit firefox and related libs
[02:04] <SeaPhor> xb3rt: alternate hitting del, f2, and f12 as soon as u boot
[02:05] <gary_> just load 64 bit version how can I get a shell prompt to compile
[02:05] <jamesish> xb3rt: :) If you know what key to hit, keep mashing. If not, it's F3, I believe for the vaio.
[02:05] <Pelo> gary_, menu > application > accessories > terminal
[02:06] <jamesish> xb3rt: Oh, apparently it's F2, sorry. Just checked the motherboard manufacturers that Sony uses.
[02:06] <Pelo> gary_, you'll need to install  build essential     sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:06] <easilydistrac> i'm having some weird problems with my FAT configured external harddrive, it's read only... i think
[02:06] <gary_> Or is it just easier to run the 32 bit version of firefox can I have 64 bit and 32 bit version on the same machine?
[02:06] <Pelo> gary_,  it's easier to run the32 bit version of ubuntu
[02:07] <jamesish> Pelo: But then he loses the coolnesses of the 64 bit version. There's a speed up and whatnot.
[02:07] <Pelo> jamesish,  I don't beleive there is much of a performance difference
[02:07] <gary_> I just got  everything working in 64 bit even wireless internet
[02:07] <Pelo> !flash
[02:08] <fairyeneried> hello guys
[02:08] <Pelo> sigh
[02:08] <periscope> hi
[02:08] <fairyeneried> i ahve a question
[02:08] <Striking7> Hey guys - http://pastie.org/183322 <-- I'm getting that back from the nvidia-settings program.
[02:08] <Pelo> !ops | no-bot
[02:08] <underscore> anyone know how to remap 'super+1' to F1?
[02:08] <Striking7> Anyone have any idea what that means or how I could fix it?
[02:08] <periscope> I'm getting a very confusing (to me) error when I boot up, it'll take a second to type, here goes:
[02:09] <Pelo> underscore, menu > system> prefs < keyboard shortcut maybe
[02:09] <fairyeneried> we want to make a virtual ubuntu inside virtualbox, we want to know if the linux-virtual is a kernel designed to this caseç
[02:09] <easilydistrac> can anyone help me with my external hard drive?
[02:09] <periscope> kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/bunch of characters) = sda5(8,5)
[02:09] <periscope> kinit: trying to resume from (that bunch of characters)
[02:09] <sjovan> !ask | easilydistrac
[02:09] <periscope> kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot
[02:10] <Pelo> easilydistrac, what fs ?
[02:10] <periscope> then I get stuck at the terminal thing, and I have to use startx to use the computer
[02:10] <SeaPhor> Pelo: there is a diff, but only when all devices are able to handle,,, mb, cpu, vid card, ram, os, and all other hardware/drivers
[02:10] <Pelo> !enter | periscope
[02:10] <jamesish> periscope: what's your init level by default? Try reading /etc/inittab to find it out.
[02:11] <orgy__> hi, when my pc has been on for some days it gets really slow as it seems the swap partition is full
[02:11] <jamesish> periscope: ignore me; I'm thinking of red hat
[02:11] <orgy__> the swap partition is 512 mb, is there a way to prevent from being full?
[02:11] <fairyeneried> i'll ask again, somebody know if the linux-virtual kernel on repositories is a kernel designed to run  inside a virtual machine?
[02:11] <periscope> jamesish, ah heh yeah I was confused for a second there
[02:11] <Striking7> orgy__ never turn the computer on again, and you're golden.
[02:11] <Pelo> orgy__, how much memory do you hve ?
[02:11] <Striking7> orgy__ it'll never fill.
[02:11] <easilydistrac> my hard drive is acting like it is read only, but a week ago it was working fine, how do i make it read/writeable?  it's formatted as FAT
[02:11] <Striking7> orgy__ sorry, couldn't help but joke.
[02:12] <Pelo> easilydistrac, usb ?
[02:12] <easilydistrac> yes
[02:12] <underscore> Pelo: keyboard shortcuts don't allow the mapping of F* keys, do they?
[02:12] <Pelo> easilydistrac,  it does mount then ?
[02:12] <stintage> EVERYONE HAS AIDS
[02:12] <stintage> GMOUNT
[02:12] <Pelo> underscore, go and check
[02:12] <stintage> LIVES
[02:12] <stintage> ON
[02:12] <Pelo> !ops | stintage
[02:12] <orgy__> Pelo 512 mb ram and swap
[02:12] <easilydistrac> yes, but becomes read only after I attempt to write to it
[02:12] <orgy__> then after a few days the swap is full and the system gets really, really slow
[02:12] <Pelo> orgy__, 2 gig of swap , boot the live cd and resize the swwap
[02:13] <periscope> can anyone help me with my problem? don't mean to seem impatient, just aggravating to have to log into terminal then startx every time I boot
[02:14] <ColdBeer> f who logged into my ssh server
[02:14] <Orbixx> Me.
[02:14] <Pelo> periscope, we donT' know everything  it is possible that noone currently in has a solution for youk  I suggest you restate the problem periodicaly,  briefly and in one line
[02:14] <periscope> alright, sorry to be pushy
[02:15] <ColdBeer> where is the record for ssh logins?
[02:15] <periscope> I was*
[02:15] <underscore> Pelo: I did, they arent in system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts by default. I was asking in case there was a way to add them in, which I couldn't find.
[02:15] <Pelo> periscope, you're not being pushy
[02:15] <leeneex> opensuse 11 vs Hardy 8.04?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> periscope,  you could put 'startx' in the .bashrc :) not a good fix.. but i set up my machines where i have to do 'startx' anyway..
[02:15] <fairyeneried> is it true that hardy have serious issues related to java?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  ive not seen any java issues.
[02:15] <SeaPhor> Striking7: you're killing me
[02:16] <Pelo> underscore,  there probably is but those keys are already mapped to functions might not be a good idea to mess areound with that,   research it in the forum   I sugeest you search for cli keybinding
[02:16] <Pelo> or rempa
[02:16] <jerbear> is there any way to view the contents of the clipboard?
[02:16] <ColdBeer> where is the record for ssh logins?
[02:16] <Pelo> SeaPhor, dont, feed the troll please this is a support channel
[02:16] <witakr> Hello folks, I am back!
[02:16] <ColdBeer> Pelo help?
[02:16] <ColdBeer> Pelo its me can u help
[02:16] <Pelo> ColdBeer, what with ?
[02:16] <Dr_willis> ColdBeer,  i think ssh by default has minimal logging , there was some in info in /var/log/auth* (i recall)
[02:16] <ColdBeer> yo what up G
[02:17] <Pelo> me who ?
[02:17] <periscope> Dr_willis, is there any way this could be related to a sound driver issue? because I just reformatted and reinstalled today (only been using ubuntu for less than a week anyway) and my sound has not worked at all despite my efforts
[02:17] <fairyeneried> and about the virtual linux image?
[02:17] <SeaPhor> Pelo: sorry :-(
[02:17] <dmsuperman> In XChat, How can I do the following: Set it up so any messages that are tagged for me (have my name in them) not only turn red (as normal) but possibly get opened somewhere else? Also, to set up which servers and channels to join upon starting?
[02:17] <ColdBeer> i had a user login today i need the ip address source of the login
[02:17] <Striking7> SeaPhor: what'd I do?
[02:17] <ColdBeer> they loged in with ssh
[02:17] <Pelo> fairyeneried, donn't know about virutual linux image, but you can isntlal ubuntu in vbox , ask in #vbox for more info
[02:17] <ColdBeer> pelo can or dr. can u help?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> periscope,  i dont see what  X has to do with sound.. Unless gdm is crashing for some reason. try 'sudo gdm' and see if it starts up properly
[02:17] <fairyeneried> there's linux-generic, linu-rt, linux-server, and what is  linux-virtual
[02:17] <Pelo> ColdBeer,  i can't help with taht
[02:18] <Dr_willis> ColdBeer,  its possible it dident get logged. check in /var/log - use grep to search the log files I guess..
[02:18] <Pelo> fairyeneried,  try researching it in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:18] <bazhang> ColdBeer: what is the issue
[02:18] <ColdBeer> i need a ssh log
[02:18] <SeaPhor> Striking7, just hit me funny after a hard day, thanks for the laugh but gotta be support
[02:18] <bazhang> ColdBeer: so check your logs
[02:18] <Pelo> ColdBeer, look in /var/log
[02:19] <Crshman> hello, when i login to ubuntu my screen is just blank with a white x...how do i fix this?
[02:19] <Dr_willis> ColdBeer,  i see ssh connectiosn with ip info in auth.log
[02:19] <bazhang> Crshman: what card and what driver and how installed please (3 questions)
[02:19] <periscope> Dr_willis, that returns a command not found error. also, I don't know if it's just an x thing, because I get several long errors prior to being forced into a terminal
[02:19] <Striking7> SeaPhor - glad to be of service :-)
[02:19] <Dr_willis> periscope,  gdm is not found?  You installed ubuntu? or kubuntu? or what exactly?
[02:20] <ColdBeer> dr. where is the auth log located?
[02:20] <ColdBeer> path>
[02:20] <Dr_willis> ColdBeer,  for the 5th time.. /var/log
[02:20] <idefix_> what is the autoexec.bat file of ubuntu?
[02:20] <ColdBeer> path?
[02:20] <underscore> Pelo: thanks
[02:20] <Dr_willis> thats where all the logs are at Normally
[02:20] <raistlinmaje7> my laptop has an HDMI out port on it, how can I get my laptop to start outputting through the HDMI?
[02:20] <ColdBeer> im sorry im drunk
[02:20] <bazhang> idefix_: please clarify
[02:20] <Pelo> idefix_, you are realy not in windows anyomre,  what is it that you want to do ?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> idefix_,  depends on what you want to start up.
[02:20] <Crshman> bazhang: geforce 7900GT, nvidia, what do you mean how installed?
[02:20] <periscope> Dr_willis, I installed ubuntu. typing exactly what you said into a terminal returns "sudo: gdm: command not found"
[02:20] <dmsuperman> idefix_, You mean how do you setup which files start with ubuntu?
[02:20] <evilbug> how can i permanently uninstall and delete all Wine content?
[02:20] <idefix_> yes
[02:20] <ColdBeer> dr. im at the bard, its friday
[02:20] <easilydistrac> i'm getting input output errors from my usb external hard drive, and it randomly becomes read only after it's already mounted, I'm not really sure what's wrong with it, can anyone help me?
[02:20] <seanh> The only partitions I have on my drive are root, home and swap, no free space. I need to create a new partition so either root or home has to be resized. I can't resize them cause they're mounted. I can't boot a LiveCD either. What can I do?
[02:20] <ColdBeer> bar
[02:20] <Dr_willis> periscope,  weird.  'startx' works properly however?
[02:21] <bazhang> Crshman: via restricted drivers manager, manually, envy etc
[02:21] <Pelo> evilbug,  sudo rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:21] <dmsuperman> idefix_, System -> Preferences -> Sessions, then the Startup tab
[02:21] <witakr> Can someone help me install my GeForce 6200 OC?... Please?
[02:21] <Crshman> bazhang: restricted
[02:21] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks
[02:21] <idefix_> dmsuperman thanks
[02:21] <Pelo> evilbug, and sudo apt-get remove wine also
[02:21] <fairyeneried> we have to shutdown the system here
[02:21] <fairyeneried> thanks for your help
[02:21] <periscope> Dr_willis, yes, from the initial terminal at boot. sorry if I am missing something, are you implying I should be running sudo gdm at the terminal I get when I boot? I don't know if there's a difference, or...
[02:21] <ColdBeer> dr. i need ip adress?
[02:21] <bazhang> Crshman: could you cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit please
[02:22] <ColdBeer> where can i get ip of user s logged in?
[02:22] <Striking7> Ok - I'm going to try rebooting and running a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that gets my 2nd monitor running
[02:22] <Striking7> Any warnings before I try it?
[02:22] <raistlinmaje7> back up your xorg.conf
[02:22] <Dr_willis> periscope,  sounds like for some reason gdm isent isnalled so its not running.  You could try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and it should install gdm and other related files
[02:22] <Striking7> raistlinmaje7: will do naturally, thanks for the reminder.
[02:22] <Crshman> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/m6adfe736
[02:22] <ColdBeer> where can i get ip of user s logged in?
[02:22] <bazhang> Striking7: answer defaults unless you know the diff and backup current xorg as raistlinmaje7 suggests
[02:22] <Dr_willis> periscope,  gdm is the tool that runs, starts up X. and gives you a nice login screen.
[02:22] <SeaPhor> Pelo, can i get rid of all ndiswrapper with the way you just showed evilbug?
[02:23] <rainwalker> is there a way to force ubuntu to use more of my ram for the visual effects?
[02:23] <Striking7> bazhang: ok.
[02:23] <periscope> Dr_willis, thanks, installing now. I guess that it would make sense that it wouldn't get to that part if I didn't even have it, haha
[02:23] <Striking7> See you all in a few, hopefully with good news!
[02:23] <evilbug> Pelo- nothing happened :( i understand that the wine folder should be in ~/.wine but it's not...
[02:23] <Dr_willis> periscope,  now WHY it dident get installed..is weird..  its the default for ubuntu
[02:23] <astro76> ColdBeer: who or w
[02:23] <Pelo> SeaPhor, sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper --purge,  and then check in your home folder for hidden ndiswrapper folder
[02:23] <Dr_willis> periscope,  unless you used the ubuntu server cd, or somthing like that to install
[02:23] <periscope> Dr_willis, it is weird though, because just earlier today I installed ubuntu and I HAD that screen a good 5-6 boots prior to this happening
[02:23] <bazhang> Crshman: you noticed any other odd behaviour? like titlebars not showing correctly, or other
[02:24] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok, will do
[02:24] <Pelo> evilbug, it's a hidden folder ,  ctrl h to view ,
[02:24] <periscope> Dr_willis, nope, just the regular live cd
[02:24] <witakr> Can someone help me install my GeForce 6200 OC?... Please?
[02:24] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thank You!
[02:24] <Pelo> !ati | witakr
[02:24] <Crshman> bazhang: this all started when i tried to install a second monitor.....i have tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg" with no success
[02:24] <periscope> Dr_willis, I appreciate the help, by the way
[02:24] <brfitzp> i just plugged in a thumb drive
[02:24] <brfitzp> to my ubuntu pc
[02:24] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks!
[02:24] <bazhang> witakr: open the restricted driver manager and enable the driver
[02:24] <brfitzp> how do i get it to show up?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> witakr,  run the restricted-manager tool and it should see./install the right drivers
[02:24] <brfitzp> so i can put files on it
[02:24] <Crshman> bazhang: the screen is just black with the "x" so there are no titlebars or anything
[02:25] <bazhang> Crshman: aha, that might be it; the xserver is looking for the second monitor perhaps
[02:25] <bazhang> !enter | brfitzp
[02:26] <SeaPhor> Pelo: do I delete that hidden folder?
[02:26] <Pelo> !helpersnack | Orbixx
[02:26] <Pelo> SeaPhor, rigth click  move to trash ?
[02:26] <bazhang> Crshman: what res are you looking to get?
[02:26] <brfitzp> i just plugged my flash drive into my ubuntu pc, how can i view it so i can put files on it, it doesnt show up under computer.
[02:26] <alteregoa> heh
[02:26] <Pelo> SeaPhor, if you want to get rid of all ndiswrapper yes,  if not keep it,  the settings files for it are in there
[02:27] <alteregoa> how can i compile to 2.6.25
[02:27] <periscope> On a maybe unrelated note, I have another problem with synaptic/add/remove applications
[02:27] <Crshman> bazhang: 1280x1024 on the 17" and 1024x768 on the 15"
[02:27] <Pelo> !kernel
[02:27] <bazhang> Crshman: back in a second
[02:27] <periscope> whenever I make any changes, then hit apply, I get the error: "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--parent-window-id' '52428803' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmp9Oil8T' as user root.
[02:27] <periscope> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[02:27] <periscope> bah didn't mean to paste the whole thing, sorry about that
[02:27] <raistlinmaje7> my laptop has an HDMI out port on it, how can I get my laptop to start outputting through the HDMI?
[02:27] <Pelo> !pastebin | periscope
[02:27] <raistlinmaje7> reconfiguring xorg didn't work
[02:27] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thank You!
[02:28] <periscope> Ah, good to know
[02:28] <easilydistrac> My FAT32 usb external harddrive is read only after working fine for a year, how can i write to it again?
[02:28] <Arceye> can someone give me a little help with finding out what drivers I have installed for a network card?
[02:28] <littlerhody> hello all
[02:28] <littlerhody> does anyone know why Ubuntu freezes loading cupsd on boot?
[02:29] <dmsuperman> Is there anyway to configure it so that KDE and Gnome apps read from the same basic settings? Basically, my KDE apps keep trying to open MP3s with amaroK (KTorrent, for instance) and the only want to change that is to install Konquerer, right click the mp3, and change the MP3 association for KDE
[02:29] <SeaPhor> Pelo: maybe i can start over fresh to try to get wireless working so i dont have cat5 strung all over in-law's house
[02:29] <Pelo> littlerhody, it shoudn't , got a usb printer in there ? that might explain it if it has trouble finding it
[02:29] <littlerhody> there is a usb printer on my xp box
[02:29] <littlerhody> on network
[02:30] <Pelo> SeaPhor, you can but there isn'T much that I can do to help you with taht
[02:30] <witakr> !ati
[02:30] <Pelo> littlerhody,  that might be it , it takes time to find the network printer, maybe , no promise
[02:30] <Pelo> littlerhody,  how long a hang are we talking about here ?
[02:30] <littlerhody> it booted up fine the first time, tried to set up wireless, rebooted and ran into this
[02:30] <littlerhody> forever, it wont go past that spot
[02:30] <SeaPhor> Pelo: no worries bro, you helped me get rid of it to start fresh! :-))
[02:30] <raistlinmaje7> my laptop has an HDMI out port on it, how can I get my laptop to start outputting through the HDMI?
[02:31] <Pelo> SeaPhor, that didnT' get rid of ayting yho might have done to other files,  jsut the ndiswrapper stuff
[02:31] <Pelo> raistlinmaje7, try looking it up in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:31] <periscope> any help? http://pastebin.com/d10cdf7ef
[02:31] <littlerhody> no big deal im gonna reinstall anyway
[02:31] <SeaPhor> Pelo: but its a start!
[02:31] <arief> halloooooooo
[02:31] <littlerhody> cant get my wireless internet going for the life of me, card has working driver but wont connect
[02:31] <Pelo> !hi | arief
[02:32] <littlerhody> not even to unencrypted WAPs
[02:32] <Pelo> !wifi | littlerhody
[02:32] <bazhang> Crshman: when you set up this dualhead what tutorial did you follow? or did you just connect it and go
[02:32] <littlerhody> ive checked most of those wifi helpers but none seems to fix my problem
[02:32] <littlerhody> but ill check it anyway
[02:33] <SeaPhor> Pelo: more than anyone else has done to help me get rid of all the help i've had here, other than calc, he was great help with what he could
[02:33] <Pelo> littlerhody, that is all I can personnaly do for you, I've never had to setup a wifi so I don't realy know,  it is suppose to get better in the next release , out in 6 days
[02:33] <Pelo> SeaPhor, stop it
[02:33] <littlerhody> that was my next question
[02:33] <powertool08> has anyone here ever used pork for aim? thoughts on it?
[02:33] <bazhang> Crshman: also did you try this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:34] <bazhang> powertool08: you have an issue with it? or just want to poll/chat about it
[02:34] <brfitzp> anyone?
[02:34] <brfitzp> i just plugged my flash drive into my ubuntu pc, how can i view it so i can put files on it, it doesnt show up under computer.
[02:34] <periscope> I get this error whenever I try to apply changes in add/remove apps http://pastebin.com/d10cdf7ef
[02:34] <powertool08> bazhang: poll/chat
[02:34] <Pelo> brfitzp, it should mount automaticaly to your desktop
[02:35] <Pelo> brfitzp, what file system is it ?
[02:35] <bazhang> brfitzp: does it show up in other computers? what is it formatted as; does mount or fdisk -l show it?
[02:35] <brfitzp> idk
[02:35] <brfitzp> probably ntfs or fat32
[02:35] <brfitzp> i used to use it with vista everyday
[02:35] <Pelo> brfitzp, usb flash drive or flashcard ?
[02:35] <bazhang> brfitzp: probably? could you check
[02:35] <eZe> anybody here have any experience with comcast + router? My inet connection works fine without a router, but it seems like my router can't get an ip from the modem.
[02:35] <painkiler> Hi guys.
[02:35] <but_psycho> hi everyone
[02:35] <brfitzp> usb flash drive
[02:36] <painkiler> Quick question. How do I mount a HFS drive to a directory?
[02:36] <SeaPhor> Pelo: what? am i coming across wrong? everyone has tried to help, and my pathetic box refuses to co-operate, now i have to clean up and you helped! ???
[02:36] <bazhang> powertool08: this is not really the chat channel; you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that if you wish
[02:36] <witakr> What if I dont meet the prerequisites listed here for installing nVidia Drivers? How DO I fix it??
[02:36] <witakr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:36] <Pelo> brfitzp, unplug it , replug it in,   see if there is a little ligth on it flashing and such,  see if ti mounts to the desktkop , if not , tell me and we'll proceed from there
[02:36] <jetscreamer> witakr: try http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt
[02:36] <brfitzp> Pelo, nothign happens
[02:36] <jetscreamer> or don't
[02:36] <brfitzp> light on flash drive blinks but nothing on the desktop
[02:36] <bazhang> eZe: you need to enter the info into the router; open up a browser and with a computer (connected by ethernet) enter the info there
[02:37] <Pelo> brfitzp, open a terminal  ( in applications accessories ) type   blkid in it , tell me if you see it
[02:37] <Dr_willis> eZe,  im not sure how true it is with comcast  Im on it now , but used to use insight, but when ever i connected a new pc to a the cable modem. I had to go to a special website (it defaulted to it) and 'register' the mac of my machine to allow it to get a ip#
[02:37] <but_psycho> can anybody tell how i can uninstall opera browser? (i have installed it from a .deb package downloaded from opera's official website)
[02:37]  * Striking7 is sad
[02:37] <Striking7> It only configured the one monitor.
[02:37] <Pelo> but_psycho, open synaptic,  do a search for opera, it should show up
[02:37] <jetscreamer> but_psycho: dpkg --purge packagename
[02:37] <Dr_willis> eZe,  so once i had found that special site. I jotted down its name, and IP#. so i could connect ti ot once i had the router plugged in.
[02:37] <painkiler> How do I mount a HFS drive to a directory?
[02:38] <brfitzp> Pelo, nothing happens when i type that
[02:38] <eZe> mh, well, i just told the router to clone my pc's mac
[02:38] <Dr_willis> eZe,  i had to do this whevever i changed routers. OR.. you use the mac clone feature to clone the mac of your pc that does work.
[02:38] <periscope> I get this error whenever I try to apply changes in add/remove apps http://pastebin.com/d10cdf7ef
[02:38] <Pelo> painkiler,  sudo mount -t hfs /dev/*** /mount/point
[02:38] <eZe> yep, that's what I did
[02:38] <witakr> jetscreamer: I am afraid I am not a Linux wizzard yet so i dont understand what that txt is talking about thoroughly
[02:38] <painkiler> Pelo: how do I find the partition list of that drive?
[02:38] <Pelo> brfitzp, linux is case sensitive,   blkid , as in BLKID
[02:38] <brfitzp> k
[02:38] <Pelo> painkiler, blkid
[02:38] <painkiler> k
[02:38] <painkiler> thnks
[02:39] <Dr_willis> eZe,  if you were to hook up a totally new pc to the thing instead of a router. it 'should' go to that register web page automaticially.
[02:39]  * Pelo likes the blkid command
[02:39] <Arceye> how do i find out what kernel i am using ?
[02:39] <Pelo> Arceye, uname -r
[02:39] <easilydistrac> something is wrong with my USB external hard drive, it isn't listed in /etc/fstab and gives me various error messages, it also sometimes becomes read only, can anyone help?
[02:39] <bazhang> Arceye: uname -r
[02:39] <Lundmark> eZe, what kind of router do you have?
[02:39] <eZe> well, I am using the same pc that is already working with the modem
[02:39] <eZe> linksys
[02:39] <eZe> wrt54gc
[02:39] <Pelo> easilydistrac, usb external donT' get listed in fstab , they automount when plugged in
[02:39] <bazhang> easilydistrac: what is the format of it
[02:40] <Pelo> easilydistrac, what file ssystem is the usb drive ?
[02:40] <Striking7> Hey - any "twinview" users want to tell me a bit about it? What'
[02:40] <Striking7> What is it's purpose?
[02:40] <Arceye> can I paste a www address in here ?
[02:40] <but_psycho> how do i uninstall an application if i cannot find it in the list of installed apps in synaptic nor in applications - add/remove?
[02:40] <Orbixx> !backup > Orbixx
[02:40] <easilydistrac> Pelo, FAT32
[02:40] <Pelo> Striking7, dual monitor, with nvidia cards I beleive,  search in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:40] <Orbixx> !backup
[02:40] <Lundmark> make sure your time zone is set to the correct timezone
[02:40] <Striking7> Pelo - Thanks.
[02:40] <bazhang> !dualhead | Striking7
[02:40] <Pelo> easilydistrac, should mount to read write
[02:41] <easilydistrac> Pelo, it does, but when i write to it, it changes to read only
[02:41] <Pelo> easilydistrac,  open a terminal snd type  sudo chown username:username /mount/point
[02:41] <eZe> mh Lundmark, you mean me? I didnt know the routers timezone mattered.
[02:41] <Pelo> easilydistrac, what releaser of ubuntu ?
[02:41] <Arceye> which drivers are the correct for me running fiesty from this site http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8187L?
[02:41] <witakr> omg I keep hitting snags!
[02:41] <easilydistrac> Pelo, gutsy, one sec doing what you said
[02:42] <Ayani> that is it atlas95 :p it is in english here :D
[02:42] <Jaime_> hi
[02:42] <Pelo> witakr, what is the issue ?
[02:42] <Lundmark> the cable modem might not respond to requests from the router. Maybe... I know I have solved problems like that before.
[02:42] <Orbixx> Arceye: Debian 3.1 driver
[02:42] <witakr> they give a list of supported cards and my card is a 6200 OC but they only list like 4 different 6200's but not 6200 OC
[02:42] <bazhang> Arceye: depends on the chipset; is that usb or pci card
[02:42] <easilydistrac> Pelo, no such directory?
[02:42] <eZe> ok, I'll give that a try
[02:42] <Pelo> witakr, did you try the restricted driver first ?
[02:42] <Arceye> pcmcia
[02:42] <Dr_willis> Striking7,  the nvidia web site has some very detailed docs on twinview also
[02:42] <jetscreamer> witakr: all you have to do is what it says.. but be comfy with it before you try
[02:42] <witakr> Pelo: IM trying to get my GeForce 6200OC installed and working
[02:42] <atlas95> Ayani : yeah that is in english here
[02:43] <Dr_willis> I would guess an OC is just a slightly faster 6200
[02:43] <bazhang> Arceye: what does lspci say
[02:43] <Pelo> easilydistrac, not you don'T right mounpoint  you write the mountpoint,  shoudl be  /media/usblableonthedesktop
[02:43] <Orbixx> How do I get gnome or X to realise which of my two monitors is the default primary?
[02:43] <Arceye> sorry   duh!!!   its onboard   so i think its usb
[02:43] <bazhang> oc = overclock witakr?
[02:43] <Pelo> witakr, didyou try the restricted dirver in the admin menu first 6
[02:43] <Jaime_> how mutch space do i need for Ubuntu?
[02:43] <Pelo> Jaime_, min 10gig
[02:44] <bazhang> Jaime_: how much do you have
[02:44] <Jaime_> 5.7
[02:44] <witakr> jetscreamer: I know and I am comfortable doing this its jst it say it wont work unless my card is in the supported list which I have an OC and there are no OCs listed but several 6200s
[02:44] <Jaime_> gig
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,  i had issues with that under gutsy. Its much smarter now under Hardy.  for gdm i had to manually edit the gdmrc to set what moniitor the gdm screen appeared on.
[02:44] <witakr> Pelo:  no i havnt
[02:44] <Pelo> Jaime_, barely enough to just try it
[02:44] <Orbixx> Dr_willis: Thanks, I look forward to the stable release, then! :)
[02:44] <Jaime_> hm
[02:44] <bazhang> Jaime_: might want to get a smaller distro then that will be pushing it
[02:44] <Pelo> witakr, startwith that ,  menu > system > admin > restricted drivers
[02:44] <Striking7> Thank you Dr_willis.
[02:44] <Pelo> easilydistrac, still around ?
[02:44]  * Striking7 cheers!
[02:44] <Crshman> bazhang: i tried that, now i get the orange background but no toolbars
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,  i ended up setting gdm to auto login, and just moved my panels to the proper monitor. as a easy fix.
[02:45] <Arceye> bazhang:   outpur from lsusb = Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[02:45] <bazhang> Crshman: what theme you using; also is this running compiz
[02:45] <easilydistrac> Pelo, yeah, now what?
[02:45] <ubobo> I have just installed Xchm reader,but when I use it to open files ".chm" , it shows me "Error loading CHM file!"   Any suggestions?
[02:45] <Striking7> I have a huge dual head desktop, check.  Desktop effects, check.  Only problem now... the first monitor is 1024 tall and the 2nd is 1050....
[02:45] <Crshman> default theme, yes on compiz
[02:45] <greybeard95a> hello all; I've gotten myself into serious trouble -- I just upgraded to hardy and it does not recognize the disk drive on my second IDE channel.
[02:45] <Pelo> easilydistrac,  didit work ?
[02:45] <Orbixx> Dr_willis: I moved my panels, too. But the problem with that was that my windows maximize underneath the panels, effectively making the panels hide the tops of my windows.
[02:45] <Striking7> So now my bottom menu bar is invisible :-(
[02:45] <Crshman> bazhang: default theme, yes on compiz
[02:45] <bazhang> Arceye: so you just answered your own question which driver to use
[02:45] <witakr> Pelo:  it said that my hardware doesnt need restricted drivers
[02:45] <Jaime_> but cant i first insall ubuntu and then delete some old files? ( hanvt got any OS now but a harddrive with mutch imporatant documents)
[02:46] <Dr_willis> Orbixx,  that dosent sound like a twinview issue.. sounds more like a compiz issue.
[02:46] <Orbixx> You think?
[02:46] <bazhang> Crshman: try changing the themes around and see if that fixes it
[02:46] <witakr> Pelo: my card isnt installed right now because if I install it Ub wont boot
[02:46] <witakr> Pelo:  it hangs
[02:46] <Orbixx> I tried disabling all visual effects completely.
[02:46] <easilydistrac> Pelo, it did it, checking if problem is resolved
[02:46] <Orbixx> No dice.
[02:46] <Crshman> bazhang: how do i change theme's from the CLI? there are no toolbars in the gui
[02:46] <painkiler> Why is my mounted HFS read-only?
[02:46] <ubobo> I have just installed Xchm reader,but when I use it to open files ".chm" , it shows me "Error loading CHM file!"   Any suggestions?
[02:46] <Arceye> bazhang I didn't the question was do I choose debian or linux kernel 2.6.X
[02:46] <cirkit_> How come Ubuntu does not have /etc/inittab?
[02:46] <Pelo> witakr, go back to what you werer doing then
[02:46] <Orbixx> ububo: Check file permissions.
[02:46] <bazhang> Crshman: the menus disappeared too?
[02:47] <IamReck> I have my moniter set up, but there are some pixels hanging off to the right, how do I fix?
[02:47] <Crshman> bazhang: yeah there are no menu's when i login....only the orange background
[02:47] <Orbixx> IamReck: Put them back in.
[02:47] <easilydistrac> Pelo, looks like that did it, thanks bunches!
[02:47] <IamReck> Orbixx, thanks.
[02:47] <IamReck> Seriously
[02:48] <bazhang> Crshman: did you use the dualhead wiki to set this up?
[02:48]  * Pelo takes visa mastecard but not american express 
[02:48] <Crshman> no, i just used the screen app in ubuntu
[02:48] <Striking7> Good for you, Pelo - they really stick it to the merchant with high fees
[02:48] <bazhang> !dualhead | Crshman you might want to check this for future reference
[02:48] <periscope> Dr_willis, thanks for the help with gdm, that solved my weird boot errors.
[02:49] <easilydistrac> Pelo, wait, another problem just manifested, i tried downloading a torrent to it and i got a "write fails, flush fails" error
[02:49] <Orbixx> Dr_willis: I'll try hardy out when it's released, if it's still not fixed. I'll start looking at compiz.
[02:49] <ubobo> hello Orbixx, I checked it just now, I'm the owner of the file
[02:49] <bazhang> Arceye: debian or linux kernel? you are using ubuntu right? not sure what you mean here
[02:49] <Pelo> easilydistrac, how big the usb drive ? how big the torent  ?
[02:49] <Orbixx> ubobo: Have you tried more than one .chm file?
[02:50] <painkiler> Why is my mounted HFS read-only?
[02:50] <regeya> meh.
[02:50] <easilydistrac> Pelo, 160gigs 14 free, torrent is 6.5
[02:50] <bazhang> regeya you got an issue?
[02:50] <Pelo> easilydistrac, fat32 is limited to files under 4 gigs
[02:50] <regeya> painkiller, don't know, but be aware the hfsplus code isn't bug free
[02:50] <easilydistrac> Pelo, aha, thanks
[02:50] <regeya> bazhang: sorry, keyboard brainfart in wrong channel.
[02:51] <painkiler> Argh, ok.
[02:51] <easilydistrac> Pelo, you the man/woman/helpful anonymous soul.  Thanks a ton
[02:51]  * regeya learned about hfsplus the hard way :-/  also, it doesn't do things the same way os x does, double argh
[02:51] <Arceye> bazhang yes I am using ubuntu  but I know very little about linux so as there were two options I didn't want to get the wrong set
[02:51] <jetscreamer> witakr: it should work. if you try and it doesn't, nothing lost.
[02:51] <Pelo> easilydistrac, man
[02:51] <painkiler> amen regeya.
[02:51] <greybeard95a> Hello all:  HELP!!!!!  I upgraded to hardy and it does not see the drive on the second IDE channel.  This is the bigger drive on my system.
[02:51] <jetscreamer> witakr: but do what the distro wants
[02:51] <eZe> ok, back, but i am still getting the following error: Failed to get IP address from remote DCHP Server. I switched to the correct timezone, but the time the router has saved is still wrong, does that matter?
[02:52] <painkiler> I'm just using the live cd to fix my mac.
[02:52]  * Pelo is "the" Pélo , accept no substitute
[02:52] <witakr> jetscreamer: the info you gave me doesnt work because when try to download the .run it says network is unreachable in terminal
[02:52] <bazhang> Arceye: you mean when you have an older kernel and that initial screen lets you choose one? usually the top choice is the best one
[02:52] <Dr_willis> greybeard95a,  does 'sudo fdisk -l' see the disk?
[02:52] <Pelo> greybeard95a,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:52] <lo1> how many people has a mac?
[02:52]  * Dr_willis forrgets what channel he is in. :)
[02:52] <greybeard95a> Dr_willis, no it doesn't.  The disk is not even listed in the /dev directory.
[02:52]  * Pelo glares at Dr_willis 
[02:52] <Dr_willis> lo1,  i got one in the closet.
[02:52] <bazhang> lo1: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[02:53] <jetscreamer> witakr: you would need to fix your internet then? and do browse for the latest driver
[02:53] <Arceye> bazhang so from the site address I posted i get the debian drivers ?
[02:53] <regeya> painkiller: yeah, I don't know how hard that would be, datafork in foo, resource fork in ._foo, I wouldn't think that hard...but nooooo....
[02:53] <Dr_willis> greybeard95a,  if its not seen by sudo fdisk -l, i would check with some live cd's and  the bios screens to see if they see it.. if they DONT - sounds like a hardware error to me.
[02:53] <regeya> we gotta do things different
[02:53] <Pelo> bazhang, ubuntu runs on make but the low number of mac users makes it difficult to find help on mac specfic issues
[02:53] <puller> how can i open a .jar in termianl?
[02:53] <greybeard95a> Dr_willis, the BIOS screen *does* see the drive.
[02:53] <witakr> MOMG! My xchate-gnome keeps closing!
[02:53] <witakr> bah!
[02:54] <Pelo> witakr, use xchat , xchat-gnome is subpar
[02:54] <Striking7> bazhang, is it an intel Mac? If so I can probably help
[02:54] <bazhang> Arceye: not sure; didnt read the link--the rtl8187 realtek driver is the one you want though, it will work with the ubuntu latest kernel (gutsy and above)
[02:54] <regeya> and shoving people to an ubuntu ppc channel for mac help would be less than meaningless on a current mac...
[02:54] <cizzi> if any of you need a remote linux account i run a non-profit public shell service @ www.learningshells.com
[02:54] <Dr_willis> greybeard95a,  check dmesg output, check with some other live cds - would be next step.
[02:54] <witakr> pelo, word, i will return, thanks
[02:54] <periscope> okay, now on to ANOTHER problem. I get no sound at all anywhere, and I have the right things selected (alsa where it applies, usb audio for my card, etc). I get this error when I test the sound in the sound prefs http://pastebin.com/d7a6b44bd
[02:54] <bazhang> Striking7: not sure ask lo1
[02:54] <bazhang> cizzi: not here please
[02:54]  * Dr_willis leaves for work. bye all
[02:54] <Jaime_> when i make a new partion on my harddrive and ubuntu isnt installed yet (im in the "desktop mode"), the harddrive(ntfs) should be MOUNTED or UNMOUNTED?
[02:54] <Striking7> bazhang - oops, I just jumped into the conversation :-)
[02:54] <regeya> bye Dr_willis
[02:54] <bazhang> cya dr
[02:54] <Striking7> Later Dr
[02:55] <SamSpade> anyone running adobe air here?
[02:55] <Pelo> periscope, check your user permission make sure you are allowed to "user audio device"
[02:55] <gurumeditation> hehe
[02:55] <cizzi> bazhang - allright
[02:55] <greybeard95a> Dr_willis, I'm looking at dmesg now.  What exactly am I looking for?
[02:55] <bazhang> Jaime_: only unmounter
[02:55] <periscope> Pelo, sorry, very new here. How would I go about doing that?
[02:55] <bazhang> SamSpade: you have an issue with it?
[02:55] <Jaime_> ok, but i need to mount when installing ubuntu?
[02:56] <regeya> bazhang, here's what to do
[02:56] <Pelo> periscope, menu > system > admin > users ,  check the properties of your username, not for root
[02:56] <bazhang> Jaime_: it will do that for you
[02:56] <regeya> !ask | SamSpade
[02:56] <SamSpade> well, its still beta and i had that issue of it taking over some other mime types and just ran the code on the forum
[02:56] <bazhang> regeya: I never asked a question ;]
[02:56] <Jaime_> can anyone help me make a new partion?
[02:56] <SamSpade> and it doesn't take over the mime types but now twhril doesn't open
[02:56] <periscope> Pelo, yes, use audio devices is checked off
[02:56] <regeya> bazhang: well, that saves you from 'do you have an issue?' every couple of minutes...just hit someone with 'ask' unelss it's someone like me just saying 'meh
[02:57] <bazhang> Jaime_: using what? please clarify
[02:57] <regeya> ;-)
[02:57] <Pelo> Jaime_, boot the live cd and open the gnome partiton manager in the system admin menu
[02:57] <bazhang> regeya: to each his own thanks
[02:57] <greybeard95a> Okay, I see hdc--which looks very much like the drive I'm missing
[02:57] <Jaime_> ive selected my hd but cant click "new partion"
[02:57] <SamSpade> its more of an adobe question so thats why i wasn't asking it specifically here and was just wondering if anyone else was using air :)
[02:57] <witakr> omg already i like this better, thanks Pelo
[02:57] <Pelo> periscope, ok so that is not it ,  open a terminal  type alsamixer ,  put all the levels up , there are more then those on the first screen ,  keep arrowing right
[02:58] <Pelo> witakr, what ?
[02:58] <regeya> well...adobe has a full line of products outside of air, so... *wink* you remind me SamSpade that I need to give air a spin
[02:58] <witakr> xhat
[02:58] <witakr> c+
[02:58] <puller> anyoen know how i can open a .jar in ubuntu via terminal?
[02:58] <Pelo> witakr, ho , no problem
[02:58] <SamSpade> its pretty sweet actually, especially for a beta
[02:58] <witakr> Pelo, you call me a ho?
[02:58] <SamSpade> i love twhirl for twitter
[02:58] <Pelo> witakr, sorry for the typing I've been on for a bit
[02:59] <Arceye> :)  wish me luck with the install I am about to mess my laptop up :)
[02:59] <witakr> Pelo, lmao I was kidding.. im litterally LOL
[02:59] <regeya> !jar
[02:59] <CapaH_> I am using command line FTP to put a file --- a large file 50 gigs or so to a server networked with this one. My question is, 48 gigs transferred and the process crashed -- I want to resume from there -- is that possible?
[02:59] <bazhang> good luck Arceye
[02:59] <SamSpade> ouch
[02:59] <SamSpade> 48/50 gigs
[02:59] <cizzi> bazhang - where would be a good place to promote this educational service i have?
[02:59] <regeya> puller: I believe you use 'jar' and if you try to run that from terminal and don't have it installed, you'll get a list of packages containing jar utils
[03:00] <bazhang> cizzi: no idea sorry
[03:00] <CapaH_> anyone know a way to resume ?
[03:00] <periscope> Pelo, alright, I did that and it did not change anything. But I opened amarok just now and it gave me an error for the first time, saying xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[03:00] <Pelo> CapaH_, resume what ?
[03:00] <m1r> hello
[03:00] <CapaH_> Pelo: the ftp
[03:00] <CapaH_> I did: put file.gz
[03:00] <CapaH_> and it crashed at 48 gigs
[03:00] <Pelo> periscope, open a terminal , type  lspci , check if you see your audio card listed
[03:01] <Pelo> CapaH_, sorry, don'T know , for big files like that  maybe you should try torrents
[03:01] <ampmaniac3> hi! can anyone give me an idea what mail should i use that supports smtp and imap/pop3?
[03:01] <flyback> here's a suggestion
[03:01] <flyback> IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOAD A VIDEO OR AUDIO FILE BECAUSE OF A "RESTRICTED CODEC"
[03:01] <Pelo> ampmaniac3, evolutions does them all , assuming you want a gui client
[03:02] <bazhang> ampmaniac3: what have you tried thus far
[03:02] <flyback> DON'T FUCKING TRY TO LAUNCH IN THE FIRST PLACE
[03:02] <regeya> !caps
[03:02] <Pelo> flyback, please stop
[03:02] <Starnestommy> !language
[03:02] <bazhang> caps flyback
[03:02] <greybeard95a> Hello all, I see Dr_willis left the room.  I see a drive in dmesg and in the BIOS that fdisk won't recognize.  It is my bigger drive and it's got everything important on it.  I just upgraded to Hardy.
[03:02] <flyback> I don't care anymore
[03:02] <regeya> !language
[03:02] <regeya> !ops
[03:02] <Pelo> !codecs | flyback
[03:02] <flyback> I dumped my ubuntu cd and soon the rest of my life
[03:02] <bazhang> flyback but we and the ops do
[03:02] <CapaH_> flyback: Why not friggen get the codecs?
[03:02] <flyback> yeah so?
[03:02] <ampmaniac3> bazhang: ive tried postfix
[03:02] <flyback> doesn't matter anymore
[03:02] <Starnestommy> ampmaniac3: I think postfix does smtp and dovecot does imap
[03:02] <Jin> hey all
[03:03] <bazhang> evolution seems to be the consensus ampmaniac3
[03:03]  * Pelo wonders who vorian is 
[03:03] <periscope> Pelo, if I use the command lsmod | grep snd, I can see it on the left column and also on the right several times, but I'm not sure what it means. with just the lspci I don't see my usb card specifically
[03:03] <Starnestommy> Pelo: look at the hostmask
[03:03] <Pelo> ampmaniac3, ifyou don'T want all the calander and stuff try thunderbird
[03:03] <regeya> cripes, I suppose I should have also said !restricted
[03:03] <IamReck> !hardy
[03:03] <regeya> !restricted
[03:04] <cjae> do I have to edit fstab to incorporate a external hdd (ntfs) that used to be usb but is now esata via the onboard sata controller, I put in a sata to esata cord and the bios recognized it
[03:04] <powertool08> ok now i have a support ? for pork network error: snoozer286: Bad file descriptor
[03:04] <puller> regeya: that didnt help i want to install an application that is a .jar
[03:04] <Jin> i have ubuntu on HHD and i want to install other OS. is their away where i can set up duel OS using ubuntu to do it, and not just replace ubuntu?
[03:04] <ebroder> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine that doesn't have a CD-ROM drive. I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and it booted, but now I can't find where the flash drive is to mount it (either that or I can't convince BusyBox to mount it)
[03:04] <Pelo> cjae, give it a try , I've never seen that config before
[03:04] <bazhang> powertool08: where was that installed from the repos or some random third party website
[03:04]  * regeya thumbs his nose at the legal issues--most the "restricted" codecs he uses either have unenforceable licenses or his hardware shipped with licensed codecs...for windows.  still not a good idea to use 'em though
[03:04] <powertool08> bazhang: repos
[03:05] <gary_> yes sata drive have a different device sda sdb etc
[03:05] <bazhang> ebroder: there is a iso2usb script let me get you a link
[03:05] <christopher> does anyone know how to remove the shadows around the kmenu when Desktop effects are enabled?
[03:05] <Orbixx> How do I minimize Firestarter to the Gnome Panel tray?
[03:05] <Pelo> christopher, ask in #compiz ,
[03:05] <cjae> Pelo, nevermind the ntfs config tool got it, thanks anyway
[03:05] <ebroder> bazhang: Ok - I see an iso2usb script. How is that different from what I linked to?
[03:05] <prashant____> hello friends i have a small problem while updating with dist-update system froze and now after rebooting even after an hour nothing appears after login... please help :)
[03:06] <Pelo> Orbixx, just click on the tray icon
[03:06] <regeya> Orbixx: click on the firestarter tray icon
[03:06] <bazhang> christopher: that is likely a feature not a bug
[03:06] <puller> anyone know how i can install a .jar fiel in ubuntu?
[03:06] <Orbixx> Bloody hell, the simplest things elude me.
[03:06] <Orbixx> I right clicked the icon!
[03:06] <Pelo> puller, try looking in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:06] <Orbixx> I checked context menus!
[03:06] <Orbixx> I did everything but the simplest!
[03:06] <regeya> hooray, simple solution ftw
[03:07] <Orbixx> I ought to be grateful instead of moaning, lol.
[03:07]  * Pelo points and laughs at Orbixx 
[03:07] <Khajavi> I am using Ubuntu for 7 month. and know I am very tired of downloading every thing that I need from dial-up Internet. does it better to use Debian (Lenny) instead of Ubuntu? advantages and disadvantages?
[03:07] <SamSpade> puller i don't think you install jar files, more like you run them
[03:07] <s0ftmachine> hi there
[03:07] <witakr> anyone kow where i can download this: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg0.run
[03:07] <puller> SamSpade: then how do i run it?
[03:07] <bazhang> Khajavi: issue with it or poll/chat?
[03:07] <SamSpade> maybe make a shortcut with the command java jarfile?
[03:08] <s0ftmachine> does anyone know if I can install linux via vmware or a similar virtualization program
[03:08] <Pelo> Khajavi, you can use the livecd as a repos taht will make less stuff to dl when you want to instll, you can also turn of the updates,  and getting debian will not solve anyting, you 'll need to download everything there aas well
[03:08] <bazhang> s0ftmachine: sure no problem
[03:08] <trenton> s0ftmachine: yes
[03:08] <gary_> I have nvidia and I installed it today go to restricted drivers on your machine and install what is requested
[03:08] <SamSpade> puller download the java runtime if you don't already have it
[03:08] <prashant____> does any one know about how to back up installed pakages
[03:08] <gary_> the file you are looking for is the hard way
[03:09] <Pelo> s0ftmachine,  you can instal ubuntu on vmware or anyother virtual machine, but I'm not sure if that is what you mean
[03:09] <puller> SamSpade: where can i get that or check if i have it?
[03:09] <s0ftmachine> bazhang: can i get a real install on a 2nd harddrive that way?
[03:09] <gogeta> Pelo dialup whoes?
[03:09] <bazhang> s0ftmachine: what is the host system
[03:09] <Pelo> gogeta, not me, the other guy
[03:09] <witakr> Pelo,  you know where i can download the latest: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg0.run?
[03:09] <Khajavi> Pelo: Debian(lenny) have 3 DVD but Ubuntu one DVD
[03:09] <s0ftmachine> no I mean, my bios is messed up, I can't figure out how to flash it, and I can't install using grub, from a disk or any other way I've tried
[03:10] <s0ftmachine> P4 running XP
[03:10] <Pelo> witakr, put that name in google and see what comes up , but I guess the nivida site
[03:10] <echelon> can anyone answer a question?
[03:10] <SamSpade> puller from the terminal run the command "java -help"
[03:10] <powertool08> bazhang: Do you know what causes the bad file descriptor?
[03:10] <gogeta> Pelo i update yearly atm due to being stuck on dialup
[03:10] <SamSpade> and it should give you a list of options
[03:10] <rainwalker> echelon: ask, and we'll help if we can
[03:10] <bazhang> s0ftmachine: try either unetbootin or wubi /msg ubotu wubi and check ubuntuforums link
[03:10] <Pelo> Khajavi, ok if that suits you
[03:10] <echelon> about a broadcom mini-pci card in a hp pavilion laptop
[03:10] <gogeta> Pelo just update when i shipit a new cd
[03:10] <Torikun> ﻿ Please check out my Linux podcast http://rusher.webhop.org/podcast =)
[03:10] <echelon> i got the drivers set
[03:10] <rainwalker> echelon: ooh...broadcoms are a pain
[03:10] <echelon> and lspci displays just fine
[03:10] <echelon> Yeah
[03:10] <Pelo> gogeta, I feel your pain
[03:11] <s0ftmachine> yeah netboot is about the only thing I havent tried
[03:11] <bazhang> Torikun: not here please
[03:11] <echelon> rainwalker: can i talk to you in msg?
[03:11] <s0ftmachine> even tried booting from a partition using DOSGrub
[03:11] <rainwalker> echelon: I can't guarantee I'll be any help
[03:11] <gogeta> Pelo i miss the daily stuff
[03:11] <gogeta> :-(
[03:11] <Pelo> !enter | s0ftmachine
[03:11] <bazhang> s0ftmachine: search the site and get the exe it really does work well
[03:11] <Pelo> gogeta, I'm up to my 5th update today,  RC rocks
[03:12] <gogeta> rc?
[03:12] <s0ftmachine> ok, sorry about that...thank you
[03:12] <gogeta> Pelo oh lol beta
[03:12] <bazhang> !hardy | gogeta
[03:12] <Pelo> gogeta, I'm on hardy Release Candidate
[03:12] <prashant____> hello friends i have a small problem while updating with dist-update system froze and now after rebooting even after an hour nothing appears after login... please help :s
[03:12] <rainwalker> gogeta: rc = release candidate
[03:12] <Khajavi> Pelo: I don't have any experience about Debian testing (lenny). don't you know about amount of packages in Debian and ubuntu ?
[03:12] <Pelo> prashant____, dist-upgrade
[03:12] <abramson> hi dus any1 know howi fix the wi-fi problem on my computer
[03:12] <gogeta> yea i knoe had a dumb moment
[03:12] <prashant____> pelo: yes thats what i meant
[03:12] <abramson> i have linux 7.10
[03:12] <bazhang> abramson: could you speak english please
[03:12] <rainwalker> abramson: what problem are you having?
[03:13] <Pelo> prashant____,  boot the recovery mode,   and sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get dist-grade
[03:13] <gogeta> abramson linux + wifi = bad
[03:13] <rainwalker> bazhang: hey there! long time no see
[03:13] <bazhang> gogeta not true
[03:13] <bazhang> hi rainwalker
[03:13] <rainwalker> gogeta: not with a netgear wg511t
[03:13] <prashant____> pelo it should be dist-upgrade :)
[03:13] <Jordan_U> gogeta, Obviously you have never used an XO :)
[03:13] <abramson> my wi-fi dusnt work properly; i put in the rite network key but it doesnt accept it...
[03:13] <gogeta>  bazhang well with at least 75% of the cards out there
[03:13] <Pelo> prashant____, did I misstype  ? sorry , it's getting late
[03:14] <rainwalker> abramson: what card do you have?
[03:14] <abramson> i use a macbook, internal card
[03:14] <bazhang> gogeta: this is not a chat channel; please keep the editorial comments to a minimum thanks
[03:14] <rainwalker> ah
[03:14] <abramson> it worked wen i used leapord- mac osx
[03:14] <rainwalker> abramson: I read an article a while back about ubuntu on macbooks, let me see if I can find it...
[03:14] <Pelo> ok, g'night folks, best of luck to everyone
[03:14] <gogeta> bazhang :-!
[03:14] <abramson> kk thx alot
[03:14] <bazhang> cya pelo
[03:15] <Arceye> why oh why does everything have to be so darn difficult :(
[03:15] <gogeta> Arceye ?
[03:15] <abramson> ya thats me...
[03:16] <Jordan_U> abramson, What version macbook is it?
[03:16] <Arceye> trying to install some drivers and I had to make the driver modules but i get errors :(
[03:16] <monkeybritches> If it were easy then you wouldn't respect it tomorrow
[03:16] <gogeta> Arceye duid you install the build essensles package
[03:16] <Jordan_U> Arceye, What drivers are you trying to install?
[03:16] <gogeta> Arceye also check if the driver need any deps
[03:17] <gogeta> Arceye or any other build sources
[03:18] <abramson> any1 got anythin?
[03:18] <Jordan_U> abramson, What version macbook is it?
[03:18] <Arceye> trying to install realtek 8187 network card drivers
[03:18] <rainwalker> abramson: I couldn't find it, sorry
[03:18] <bazhang> abramson: what card is it; what chipset exactly
[03:18] <abramson> thx anyway
[03:18] <Arceye> downloaded from realtek site
[03:19] <rainwalker> abramson: ah wait!
[03:19] <abramson> jordonu: white bottom model with xtra ram
[03:19] <Arceye> they should have everything needed with instructions but the instructions are written for people who already know how to do this stuff
[03:19] <Crshman> for a xinerama config can i do top of? ex: "Screen 1 "Default Screen[1]" TopOf "Default Screen[0]"
[03:19] <abramson> bazhang: internal, i nvr had a problem wit it wen i used mac osx lepoard
[03:20] <bazhang> abramson: of course you didnt but that little amount of info wont help here; do you have the ubuntu disk in the drive and booted up
[03:20] <Jordan_U> abramson, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[03:21] <abramson> anythin guys?
[03:21] <rainwalker> abramson: Jordan_U just said what I was about to type
[03:21] <gogeta> hear a good question i havent found any answers to
[03:21] <abramson> srry i missed it, wat he said?
[03:21] <witakr> can someone please look at this installer errors and tell me what they mean? http://paste2.org/p/21608
[03:21] <abramson> i lost connection...
[03:22] <gogeta> my pc is outfixxed with a v92 dialhell modem i havent found any modem on hold softwhere for linux
[03:22] <rainwalker> abramson: also, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[03:22] <abramson> thx soooo much dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <bazhang> abramson: why not stick with osx?
[03:22] <abramson> wanted to try this
[03:22] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Because not all *NIX is the same
[03:23] <bazhang> abramson: you might want to look into macports
[03:23] <jjb2> do kernel drivers ever get clobbered or messed up, for example: a) during distro packaging, b) when I upgrade my kernel, etc?  I ask because the Hardy kernel doesn't seem to include the improvements (that I wrote!) for the xbox 360 controller in 2.6.24.
[03:23] <thedonvaughn> and Apple is just as bad as M$.  still closed propietery shiney box
[03:23] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Because Apple broke X11, because fink sucks, things like that :)
[03:24] <bazhang> jjb2: sometimes during kernel upgrades the modules etc can be fuzzled yes
[03:24] <usser> apple broke X11?
[03:24] <bazhang> usser: you have an issue?
[03:24] <usser> apple acquired cups recently and contributes quite a lot to it
[03:24] <witakr> can someone please look at this installer errors and tell me what they mean? http://paste2.org/p/21608
[03:24] <usser> bazhang, no i dont
[03:25] <gogeta> jjb2 you should be able to compile your own driver in without issue
[03:25] <linkinxp> how  i edit the Right Click in the desktop menu???
[03:25] <Jordan_U> usser, Gimp no longer works ( last I checked at least )
[03:25] <Crshman> is there a way to have two "seperate" desktops on linux rather than one giant one that everything stretches accross?
[03:25] <gogeta> Jordan_U what boooo
[03:25] <jjb2> gogeta, the entire reason I sent a patch in to the kernel was so that I wouldn't have to do that
[03:25] <usser> Jordan_U, on a mac?
[03:26] <jjb2> so, it's kind of ironic i guess
[03:26] <Jordan_U> Crshman, Yes
[03:26] <bazhang> Crshman: aye that would be the dualhead option; /msg ubotu dualhead for more info
[03:26] <Crshman> ah ok
[03:26] <gogeta> Crshman linux has multi desktop built in
[03:26] <Jordan_U> usser, Yes
[03:26] <icesword> what is dualhead
[03:27] <Jordan_U> jjb2, Is your patch in the upstream vanilla sources?
[03:27] <gogeta> 2 monoters
[03:27] <Crshman> hmm i looked at the wiki and dualhead and dualscreen both redirect to the same article
[03:27] <rainwalker> Crshman: if you mean workspaces, yes. linux had it before OS X stole it :P
[03:27] <bazhang> !dualhead | icesword
[03:27] <jjb2> Jordan_U, yeah it's in 2.6.24
[03:27] <usser> Jordan_U, wow, sucks...
[03:27] <jjb2> Jordan_U, i should probably check out the Ubuntu source
[03:27] <Crshman> no, i mean two seperate desktop areas....so the top menu bars don't stretch accross both screens and apps don't open in the middle of them both so i have to drag them to either side
[03:28] <Johninky> ok your all wrong!!!  someone should have put somewhere of all the programs that you can add
[03:28] <Psynaut> anyone know how to change the dpi in winecfg graphics section without using the winecfg command?  I accidentally bumped it up to a resolution past my screen and can't revert my accidental changes :S
[03:28] <bazhang> Johninky: care to clarify?
[03:28] <thedonvaughn> Johninky: was that english?
[03:29] <linkinxp> lmao
[03:29] <nickrud> Johninky there are thousands ...
[03:29] <Johninky> Oh man would I,  I just found the add/remove applications,
[03:29] <bazhang> Johninky: try synaptic package manager for more
[03:29] <nickrud> !training
[03:29] <bazhang> wow! that stinks
[03:30] <m1r> is there a way to make user to start script which has command  for shutdown writen inside *?
[03:30] <jackdaw> hi, i bet this is an FAQ but how can i get flash working on 64bit
[03:31] <Johninky> one thing at a time,  I have to try to install what is there I dont know if I am going to have enough hard drive space for all of it
[03:31] <bazhang> !flash64
[03:31] <usser> jack-desktop, indeed there is
[03:31] <witakr> over 10 days trying to get my video card working and as much as I have looked and searched and read and read and read, i cant seem to get my video card to work with Ubuntu.
[03:31] <usser> jack-desktop, sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper
[03:31] <witakr> i need a cigarette
[03:31] <linkinxp> how can i edit the Right Click in the desktop menu???
[03:31] <usser> jack-desktop, download latest flash tar.gz from adobe.com
[03:31] <bazhang> witakr: using restricted drivers, manual or other third party method
[03:31] <jjb2> new question: when USB devices are inserted, is there some kind of lookup done to a file (or something) with USB IDs?
[03:32] <usser> jack-desktop, sudo nspluginwrapper -i /full/path/to/libflashplugin.so
[03:32] <Crshman> what options are supposed to be available in the nvidia-settings tool? it doesn't seem too useful unless my tool isn't working right
[03:32] <nickrud> jjb2 that's handled by udev, the rules are in /etc/udev
[03:32] <usser> jack-desktop, restart firefox and you're done
[03:32] <Pelo> I just had to come back and post this,   a bit ot but worth it  http://www.zoitz.com/archives/35
[03:32] <Arceye> forgive my confusion but why is it that nothing ever works as the instructions say it will ?
[03:33] <linkinxp> Pelo:  hello how are you doing?
[03:33] <bazhang> Arceye: such as?
[03:33] <Pelo> hello linkinxp just bored
[03:33] <witakr> Ristricted Drivers says there is no hardware that need those drivers, manuals-o-plenty have been read by me to no prevail, because I dont understand them yet and other methods like the nv and nouveau divers I havent been able to get to work either
[03:33] <bazhang> Pelo: got the audiobook will try that mp3splt soon
[03:33]  * nickrud kicks pelo
[03:33] <thedonvaughn> Arceye: because you're confused?  it works for many :P   be more specific on what is not working for you and someone will try to help if they know how.
[03:33] <linkinxp> Pelo:  do you know by any change how to edit the menu that pops up when i right click in the desktop?
[03:33] <Arceye> I follow instructions for building modules and i get errors
[03:33] <usser> Arceye, no matter how often you update instructions/faqs they will always be outdated. whats the problem?
[03:33] <live2k4> i installed ubunti linux wen i load a blueray it ejects ps3
[03:34] <abramson> how do i install things from the web once i download them- i download them, open the carton on my desktop, and then it gives me trouble.
[03:34] <nickrud> Arceye a big problem is obsolete instructions live forever ;(
[03:34] <bazhang> abramson: install from the repos is the best bet
[03:34] <Pelo> bazhang, thanks but I kind of given up on mp3splt, I found something else for now ,  not as versatile but appretly less fussy about the files
[03:34] <bazhang> Pelo: what is it?
[03:34]  * usser halt hammerzeit
[03:35] <nickrud> abramson system->add/remove , after you find something on the net you like check there for it
[03:35] <Arceye> Unfortunately I can't be specific unless someone else is willing to do exactly as I am trying but that may mess their system
[03:35] <Pelo> linkinxp, not realy sorry
[03:35] <jackdaw> hey thanks all, i used the ns wrapper and it works fine :)
[03:35] <jackdaw> bye
[03:35] <linkinxp> Pelo:  thats ok ;D thanks
[03:35] <bazhang> cya
[03:35] <Gnea> abramson: if they're compatible, you should be prompted for a password to continue
[03:35] <sellout> anyone know how to start the resolution utility for when x is unable to start on a fresh install
[03:35] <abramson> ok, thx
[03:35] <Pelo> bazhang, hold on
[03:35] <sellout> Iw as abel to load it by accident and fix the rez on another machine, but i do not remember what I did
[03:35] <abramson> wat about apps that u need to pay for, like crossover?
[03:35] <usser> sellout, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:36] <Pelo> bazhang, mpgsomething, hold on I have to look it up
[03:36] <bazhang> abramson: they usually have a deb
[03:36] <Gnea> you buy it, you download it, you click on it and it installs
[03:36] <sellout> i know it was a graphical utility that I saw, and had the ability to test modes
[03:36] <sellout> in heron
[03:36] <bazhang> only five more days of !hardy'ing people
[03:36] <Johninky> Hey I have a great question, for a change,   is there a countdown timer like for the gadget bar in vista that I can put on my desktop???
[03:37] <abramson> does any1 know a program supported in 7.10 like crossover or wine
[03:37] <abramson> ?
[03:37] <usser> sellout, why graphical just use dpkg-reconfigure and set res to lowest and run whatever u want from a working X
[03:37] <Pelo> bazhang, mpgtx   cli only  but at least it works,  not sure why mp3splt stoped working for me but then the devel seems to have stoped around the time or edgy
[03:37] <witakr> if i install the 'nvidia' driver then dont i have to update it everytime i update the kernel?
[03:37] <bazhang> Johninky: using compiz? check screenlets
[03:37] <gogeta> abramson both
[03:37] <witakr> whereas with 'nv' and 'nouveau' i dont?
[03:37] <bazhang> Pelo: Thanks!
[03:37] <nickrud> Pelo yep :)
[03:37] <brrybnds> I've been trying to add a new hard drive to an existing ubuntu 7.04 install, and can't seem to get write permissions for it, I have it mounted - its ext3 format - but I get the message "you do not hvae permissions to write to this folder" the fourms and google results have given me incomplete guides on how to add a disk.  Any idea's on what i'm need to do to get it to work?
[03:37] <sellout> usser: becasue in heron the last two times i tried that, when i actually started x, x reset everything to whatever it thought was best.
[03:37] <usser> witakr, if u use ubuntu's restricted manager it'll be updated for u
[03:37] <Jaime_> pelo, where do i find the system admin menu?
[03:37] <sellout> teh graphical utility was the only thing i could get to stick
[03:37] <sellout> :-(
[03:38] <Pelo> Jaime_, the top menu bar, under system , under admin
[03:38] <Johninky> where is compiz, Bazhang
[03:38] <thedonvaughn> brrybnds: well who owns the directory?  that person can write to it.  also what permissions do you have on the directory?  pastebin ls -al on that director
[03:38] <gogeta> abramson wine crossover and cedega all are compatble with ubuntu
[03:38] <witakr> usser, oh, then i need to get to the point where i can use my video card then i will be able touse the restricted driver manager
[03:38] <Pelo> Jaime_, that is if you are using ubuntu with gnome,  not suere where in kde or inxcfe
[03:38] <bazhang> sellout: you may want to ask in the hardy channel about that #ubuntu+1
[03:38] <nickrud> brrybnds with the disk mounted, sudo chown <youruser>:<youruser> /mount/point
[03:38] <usser> sellout, hm thats weird... i suppose u can modify xorg.conf by hang but i've never heard of dpkg-reconfigure settings being reset
[03:38] <abramson> they dont show up under "supported apps", only "all apps"
[03:38] <nickrud> brrybnds that give only you write perms
[03:38] <thedonvaughn> brrybnds: also what group owns it?  if you're apart of that group, and group permissions are rwx you can write to it
[03:38] <sellout> usser: Editing by hand in hardy also is overwritten, tried that first.
[03:38] <Arceye> is there a pastebin place where I can paste the output of what I am trying to do so someone can read it and translate it into english for me?
[03:39] <bazhang> !ccsm | Johninky
[03:39] <Pelo> !pastebin | Arceye
[03:39] <gogeta> abramson wile wines a supported app but cedega offers its own being a subscriber app
[03:39] <usser> sellout, wtf.... thats just not right... i dunno man
[03:39] <gogeta> abramson acully trash that
[03:40] <gogeta> abramson wines a api layer so support on it is up to wine itsself
[03:40] <nickrud> sellout system->prefs->screen resolution ?
[03:40] <nickrud> sellout usser gnome will override the system wide resolution if it's set there
[03:40] <abramson> is ther sumthin i can use to update my iphone that wuld recieve updates from apple?
[03:40] <brrybnds> thedonvaughn: I'll pastebin it in a moment, I'm having issues loading that site at the moment
[03:41] <bazhang> abramson: iTunes
[03:41] <underscore> I'd like to make <Super>+* be F* (for all the F buttons, usin 0,[,] for 10,11,12) because on my keyboard the F buttons do not work. Is this possible in ubuntu?
[03:41] <usser> nickrud, oh my...
[03:41] <gogeta> abramson not on linux
[03:41] <abramson> other than itunes...- sumthin thats native to linux
[03:41] <sellout> nickrud: no we are unable to launch x at all. I had anothe rmachine that was doing similar and the autodetected setings did not work
[03:41]  * Pelo realy wish he knew how to make those menu that look like cards with tabs at the top , those look realy cool
[03:41] <gogeta> abramson no
[03:41] <nickrud> usser lets grandma have a low res and you your tiny fonts ;)
[03:41] <abramson> o
[03:41] <sellout> and after it failed multiple times it took us into thes failsafe mode thing with a resolution selection utility in the middle
[03:41] <brrybnds> nickrud: I did, as per the guide I was following;    cliff@cliff-ubuntu:~$ sudo chown -R cliff:cliff /media/bigger   didn't seem to change anything though
[03:41] <sellout> i need to know how to launch that manually
[03:41] <Jaime_> Pelo: well i am in the partion editor window and got my hd selected but i cant clink on "new", only on "delete" and "resize/Move"
[03:42] <Pelo> sellout,  did you reconfigrue xserver ?
[03:42] <gogeta> abramson updates come from itunes thers no linux ver yes stupid being its a osx app
[03:42] <Jaime_> and "copy"
[03:42] <thedonvaughn> brrybnds: did that after mounting it?
[03:42] <usser> nickrud, i thought it was kinda magic that gnome allowed per-user res settings. Does it really modify xorg.conf on load?
[03:42] <Pelo> Jaime_,  you need to unmount the partition first
[03:42] <Jaime_> ya already have
[03:42] <thedonvaughn> brrybnds: also chmod 775 /media/bigger if it still doesn't work after chown'ing
[03:42] <birgi> hey all, I cannot see any wireless networks in the network manager. however I can list them through manual configuration or iwlist ath0 scan... any ideas about how to fix this?
[03:43] <Pelo> Jaime_, are you doing this from the live cd ? or from the installed ubuntu ?
[03:43] <Jaime_> live cd
[03:43] <bazhang> birgi: do you have an open wifi spot to test on
[03:43] <Lake> I have a machine with SSH on it, and while it works on LAN, I can't get proper port forwarding and so I can't access it from da Internetz
[03:43] <Pelo> Jaime_, and you can'T unmount and edit the partions ?
[03:43] <sellout> Pelo: yes, and even afterwords even trying to start failsafe, results in seriously bork screen
[03:43] <birgi> bazhang: yes i do
[03:44] <Lake> with the exception of port forwarding from the router and opening iptables as to let anything coming from the router in, is there anything else I am not doing right ?
[03:44] <bazhang> birgi: what does ifconfig show? ath0?
[03:44] <Jaime_> from the beginning the partion was mounted but now i unmounted it...cant mount it nack though
[03:44] <ragsagar> yeah!
[03:44] <nickrud> usser no, it keeps the data it uses in gconf, and usex xrandr (I think) . Looking in gconf for the keys right now
[03:44] <Pelo> Jaime_, ok lets start from scratch,  right now you hve partitions tat cover the whiole hdd,  select the partiton you will be reducing,   right click , unmount it,  then right click again, resize and make it smaller
[03:44] <birgi> bazhang: it says UP, RUNNING but no ip is obtained.
[03:44] <ragsagar> just add it in fstab
[03:45] <Pelo> sellout, when you reconfigured x did you pick the vesa driver ? did you mess with anyother setting ?
[03:45] <Jaime_> 1 min pelo
[03:45] <bazhang> birgi: you are connected by ethernet on that box now?
[03:45] <sellout> Pelo: vesa gives nothing but screen garbage at 800x600 too it is an ati radeon mobility m6
[03:45] <birgi> bazhang: yes
[03:45] <ragsagar> wat the :o
[03:45] <brrybnds> thanks thedonvaughn, that chmod 775 seemed to do it, have a great night!
[03:46] <bazhang> birgi: if you connect (or try to ) wit wifi it will kill your ethernet connection--you may want to test at your leisure sudo dhclient ath0
[03:46] <Pelo> sellout, wow  no idea then ,  but I generaly sugest that when you recnfigure to use vesa you leave all the other settings to default and let the app do the job  but you apperently went throught the motion
[03:46] <thedonvaughn> brrybnds: np.  775 = rwx for user, rwx for group a and r-x for everyone else.    u need executiable set on a directory to be able to read/write to it.  just little fyi
[03:46] <ubuntu> hi. I'm trying to install kubuntu off a livecd, using the "install" option.  The install goes fine, but when it's done I try to apply all the available package upgrades using adept.  That goes for a while and then crashes, saying there was a problem.  After that, I can't restart Adept, it tells me something's already using the package database.  If I try to reboot after that, it tells me "file not found" or something like that
[03:47] <Jaime_> Pelo_: why make it smaller?
[03:47] <bazhang> ubuntu: specify the problem please
[03:47] <Pelo> ubuntu, sudo killalll -9 apt
[03:47] <birgi> bazhang: ok thanks, but in my gentoo system when i clicked the network manager icon it was showing all the wireless networks, not i cannot find them from there, moreover it seems not to support wpa enterprise???
[03:48] <Pelo> Jaime_, you want to make a new partition ? you need to make room for it , you need to make some partiton smaller,  or delete one
[03:48] <brrybnds> thedonvaughn: good to know, I'm (slowly) picking the unix commands back up from my original web/shell days
[03:48] <bazhang> birgi: then you know the cli pretty well right? let me get you a link for howto cli wifi in ubuntu
[03:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 here birgi
[03:48] <ubuntu> I can reinstall pretty easily.. but this has happened twice already while upgrading packages.  why would adept be crashing?
[03:49] <birgi> bazhang: ok thanks a lot, i'll try to figure out that :)
[03:49] <Jaime_> okey, i see now, so i can make my nowly partion 5gig smaller? (my free space on harddrive)
[03:49] <Pelo> ubuntu, bad packge ? ubuntu  reboot,  and assuming you hve a gui for adept where you can choose what packages to update,  just pick a few and do those
[03:50] <Pelo> Jaime_, basicaly
[03:50] <diagon> I installed a program from source, am now would prefer to do it through synaptic, is there any precautions or considerations I should take (linking issues, two versions of the same program...)
[03:50] <Joeseph> alrighty, I have one soundcard shown installed on my system. It doesn't work.  I can't hear any sounds. XP plays sound.  Alsa Mixer muted/unmuted things look fine, but that could be my problem.  I've been working on this problem for about 3 months
[03:50] <diagon> or will it in some likelihood just overwrite/skip things that are already on the system?
[03:50] <binjie> hi...
[03:50] <Jaime_> and then make a new partion with the 5 gigs left?
[03:50] <Pelo> diagon, remove the one you installed from source first,   get the source again,  do all the steps but at then end,   sudo make uninstall
[03:50] <ubuntu> if it was a bad package, it's pretty crappy that adept/apt doesn't tell me that, and tell me which package.
[03:50] <diagon> Pelo: I tried that, it didn't work
[03:51] <birgi> bazhang: thanks a lot, this seems to be the resource i was looking for, for a long time :)
[03:51] <Pelo> diagon,  well you can try instaling the deb over but I would personnaly use the search feature and try to get rid of as many files for that app as I can first
[03:52]  * Pelo has now gone 2 hrs without an update , and he's jonesing 
[03:52] <ragsagar> hi friends
[03:52] <ubuntu> maybe I should rewrite it
[03:52] <ragsagar> wen i tried to join #fedora
[03:52] <ragsagar> i got this message
[03:52]  * Pelo looks at ragsagar suspiciously
[03:53] <ragsagar> Cannot join #fedora (You are banned
[03:53] <ragsagar> i never entered it b4
[03:53] <ragsagar> then how it happened
[03:53] <Pelo> ragsagar, were you there before ? did you say someting yo shouldn'T have ?
[03:53] <periscope> hi
[03:53] <ragsagar> nope i never gone there b4
[03:54] <ragsagar>  :\ Ubuntu is too dominating.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyemBheu7NI (Look at the comments)
[03:54] <Joeseph> for more info on my sound problem, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753584
[03:54] <periscope> so, I was updating alsa to attempt to alleviate a sound problem I was having, and now 'usb audio' isn't even on my dropdown menus in preferences > sound. any help?
[03:55] <Jaime_> Pelo: when i was unmounting my image (which takes about 5 mins?) an error occured, saying that something i dnt remember, anyway, the unmounting was cancelled
[03:55] <Pelo> ragsagar, why are you posting this here ? you want to be banned here to ?
[03:55] <Pelo> Jaime_, image ?
[03:55] <monchevique> how can I delete a route in gimp????
[03:55] <Pelo> monchevique, ask in #gimp
[03:55] <ragsagar> Pelo
[03:55] <Jaime_> ISO?
[03:55] <monchevique> nobody answers
[03:56] <ragsagar> i did something wrong??
[03:56] <Pelo> ragsagar, yo posted a link to youtube don't do that
[03:56] <ragsagar> ok sorry
[03:56] <Arceye> monchevique: give them time they will
[03:57] <ragsagar>  just saw tat link in #linux
[03:57] <ragsagar> founded intersting tats y posted here
[03:57] <Pelo> ragsagar, take the word root out of your hotmask and you'll be able to join #fedora
[03:58] <TRC2908> can anyone advise how to edit my fstab so i can mount my external hard drive drive - i think the device is sda (from dmesg)
[03:58] <ragsagar> how can i??
[03:58] <ragsagar> iam new to IRC!
[03:58] <nickrud> sellout you still trying to reset the gnome screen resolution?
[03:58] <ragsagar> pls help me!
[03:58] <Pelo> Jaime_, I'm a bit confused here,  what image is this,  what ,iso , gparted is for managing harddrive partitons , nothing to do with images
[03:58] <Pelo> ragsagar, no idea, ask in #xchat or someting
[03:58] <ragsagar> ok
[03:58] <Starnestommy> ragsagar: use an account that isn't root
[03:58] <ragsagar> thanx
[03:58] <ragsagar> iam now from my root
[03:58] <nickrud> usser in case you're interested, I've finally found where gnome keeps it's per user data on screens
[03:58] <Jaime_> Pelo: can i lose some data on my hdd when i resize my partion?
[03:59] <ragsagar> as automatically some changes occured to the desktop in my ragsagar user account
[03:59] <ragsagar> i dont knw how it happened
[03:59]  * Joeseph tries not to be obnoxious, but at the same time is looking for an answer:
[03:59] <periscope> I no longer have usb sound in my sound prefs menus at all, even when the usb sound is plugged in, anymore. any help?
[03:59] <Joeseph> I've followed serveral guides online, and none have been able to fix my sound problem, any help?
[03:59] <Pelo> Jaime_,  it is not impossible but it is usualy pretty safe,  better backup your important stuff first and if it is a ntfs/fat partiton ,  defrag it a fwe times it will make things faster
[03:59] <bazhang> birgi: let me know if you get stuck; I once (suse 10.0) had to get an external pcmcia card going with ndiswrapper to a wpa2 connection
[04:00] <Pelo> Joeseph, didyou check your user permission ?
[04:00] <Joeseph> Pelo: yes, I'll check again now too
[04:00] <Jaime_> Pelo, can i defrag whit the live cd?
[04:00] <nickrud> Ragnarel a better choice is to create a new user, and log into that. Safer, and #fedora will let you in
[04:00] <Pelo> Jaime_,  no
[04:00] <bazhang> ragsagar: running irc as root? logging in as root? you likely have some serious permissions issues now
[04:00] <Jaime_> ok hm
[04:00] <nickrud> Ragnarel soory
[04:00] <birgi> bazhang: ok now going over the whole tutorial, not to miss anything :)
[04:01] <Joeseph> Pelo: did you read my thread at the ubuntu forums?
[04:01] <birgi> bazhang: thanks again by the way
[04:01] <ragsagar> yeah i got the messaqge that it is stupid to run IRC as root wen i ran it for the 1st time
[04:01] <Pelo> Joeseph, no I didn't
[04:01] <bazhang> birgi:  no worries and ask way if any more questions ;]
[04:02] <usser> nickrud, do tell. links?
[04:02] <Joeseph> Pelo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753584   and does root need access to my audio devices, or just me?
[04:02] <Jaime_> Pelo: can i install Ubuntu without make 2 partions on my hdd? Insall it on same partion as my old OS, whithout losing any documents and files?
[04:02] <nickrud> usser ~/.gnome2/monitors.xml
[04:02] <Pelo> Joeseph, just you but root can access it to,
[04:02] <Joeseph> Pelo: root cannot access it now, does it matter?
[04:02] <bazhang> Jaime_: what is host os? xp? you might want to try wubi then
[04:02] <sjovan> Jaime_: what is your old os then?
[04:03] <Pelo> Joeseph, doesn'T matter realy but check it anyway
[04:03] <nickrud> usser the gconf key is depreciated, but still exists. A red herring ;)
[04:03] <Mr_Bunny_> Brasero doesn't seem to be able to read verify. It looks like Natuilus pounces on the disk before Brasero can get to it... Is this fixed in the RC? Where should I report this?
[04:03] <Jaime_> old OS is Vista ultimate
[04:03] <Pelo> Joeseph, type lspci in the terminal , make sure your audio card is listed
[04:03] <bazhang> Jaime_: you should be able to import your old user data etc via the installer
[04:04] <bazhang> Jaime_: be sure to back up nonetheless
[04:04]  * Pelo laughs "old os is vista ultimate" ROFL 
[04:04] <Jaime_> yeah, but i dont have enough space to re-install vista
[04:04] <reya276> Can anyone tell me what this means " lsmod | grep wacom
[04:04] <reya276> wacom                  18048  0
[04:04] <reya276> usbcore               146028  8 wacom,usblp,usbhid,usb_storage,libusual,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd"
[04:04] <Jaime_> so i nedd to first install ubuntu so i can delete some files
[04:04] <bazhang> Jaime_: vista is on there now?
[04:05] <Joeseph> Pelo: yup see it...
[04:05] <Jaime_> no, vista have crashed
[04:05] <crdlb> reya276: which bit?
[04:05] <reya276> ﻿crdlb: it's been a while, how you've been
[04:05] <pretender> HELP PLEASE  how can i fix not been able to select a case in koverartist in ubuntu
[04:05] <Jaime_> but its sytill installed
[04:05] <crdlb> reya276: good ;)
[04:05] <reya276> ﻿crdlb: all of it
[04:05] <usser> nickrud, i see
[04:05] <reya276> ﻿crdlb: trying to get my wacom tablet going again
[04:05] <bazhang> !helpme | pretender
[04:06] <crdlb> reya276: that says that the wacom kernel module is loaded, and that the usbcore kernel module is loaded and is being used by 8 other kernel module (including wacom)
[04:06] <Jaime_> mounted or unmounted partion when instaling ubuntu via liveCD?
[04:06] <Joeseph> Pelo: I've been trhough a lot of this same stuff before: one thing I thought was odd is that ALSA Mixer has a "Chip analog device' that I don't know what is, does that mean anything?
[04:06] <Pelo> Joeseph, ok make note of the device id or whatever, card model as listed in the lspic output,  goto menu > system >prefs> sound ,  for each sound event ,  ( each drop down box)  find the alsa  device taht constains someting that looks like the lable in lspic for you audio device, you get what I mean ?
[04:06] <bazhang> Jaime_: well like I said you can import stuff (data) etc via the installer; if you do not have a backup already that is unfortunate
[04:06] <reya276> ﻿crdlb: oh so this means it should work after I reboot my system right?
[04:07] <pretender> ok thanks
[04:07] <Pelo> Joeseph, I couldn'T saywaht analog device for alsa means
[04:07] <bazhang> pretender: what is koverartist
[04:07] <Jaime_> bazhang: yes but i cant delete any data?
[04:08] <Jaime_> need to delete some data to get enough space to re-install vista
[04:08] <witakr> Hey yall, I get this error when trying to install my latest nvidia driver, "You do not appear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by the 169.09 NVIDIA Linux graphics driver installed in this system." is that because my nvidia card isnt actually installed?
[04:08] <bazhang> Jaime_: you dont want to save anything? you want to use the whole disk and banish vista to /dev/null ?
[04:08] <Pelo> Jaime_, when you are in vista , how much free space do you have Y?
[04:08] <pretender> cd cover software
[04:08] <nickrud> witakr or, it's a really old card
[04:08] <iwkse> hi, i installed firefox and it's in english, how i could switch it to my language?
[04:09] <Jaime_> mounted or unmounted partion when instaling ubuntu via liveCD?
[04:09] <witakr> its a 6200
[04:09] <witakr> oc
[04:09] <bazhang> pretender: why not just use amarok? that is the much more all in one elegant solution
[04:09] <nickrud> witakr   lspci | grep -i vga  tells you the card, the nvidia site will tell you if the 169.09 supports it
[04:09] <Joeseph> Pelo: I changed them all to the Intel I had, and pressed test, and it didn't work, I 'm going to test each card now
[04:09] <Pelo> iwkse, open synaptic and look for mozilla packages look for one iwth the -**  two letter code for your language
[04:09] <kris-> Q: how do I trigger the flame effect on Unbuntu Ultimate. I already have it enabled but dunno how to trigger it
[04:09] <Pelo> Joeseph, nice and metodical
[04:10] <Pelo> kris-, ask in #compiz
[04:10] <icesword> iwkse, sudo apt-cache search your languauge | grep firefox
[04:10] <nickrud> pelo you're no fun anymore. (me thinks about hanging out in #compiz now and then)
[04:10] <linkinxp> why my customs cursors ( downloaded) works in some windows and in another no!
[04:10] <bazhang> kris that is not supported here ; go to www.ubuntu.com/download and get the real deal then we can talk ;]
[04:10]  * Pelo gives nickrud wedgy
[04:10] <iwkse> thx Pelo , icesword
[04:10] <pretender> i am using koverartist to print cd and dvd covers.  dont now how to do it with amarok
[04:11] <witakr> nickrud, but my nvidia card is sitting on my desk in a padded box right now... that line you gave tells me about my onboard
[04:11] <Joeseph> Pelo: I Can now hear when its turned up really loud.....   now I need to test a program...
[04:11] <kris-> baz- so you just don't know , right?
[04:11] <nickrud> witakr then yup, it's because it's still sitting in the padded box ;)
[04:11] <Pelo> nickrud, you want flames, ? you should have been here earlier, I was on fire
[04:11] <Pelo> Joeseph, ;-)
[04:11] <bazhang> kris-: not I dont know; that ubuntu 'ultimate' is NOT supported in this channel capisce?
[04:12] <witakr> nickrud, when i insert the card in the PCI slot and try to boot, Ubuntu hangs up and the computer does a hardfreeze
[04:12] <nickrud> Joeseph  right click the speaker on the panel, and open the mixer. You might have pcm/master down low
[04:12]  * Joeseph crosses fingers
[04:12] <periscope> I no longer have usb sound in my sound prefs menus at all, even when the usb sound is plugged in, anymore. any help?
[04:12]  * Pelo lights a candle for Joeseph 
[04:12] <nickrud> witakr I'd say the card might be defective, the 6200 is a well tested card
[04:13] <Pelo> periscope, try looking up your card model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:13] <periscope> okay.
[04:13] <witakr> I card is good, I used it when i hadmy Windows XP installed
[04:13] <brfitzp> does anyone know a way to make a shortkey button for locking the desktop?
[04:13] <bazhang> witakr: wait; you have two cards?
[04:13] <witakr> nickrud, the card is good, I used it when i hadmy Windows XP installed
[04:13] <periscope> when I modprobe snd-usb-audio I get a fatal error saying the module isn't fuond
[04:13] <nickrud> witakr ah, maybe the output is going to the onboard. Did you try disabling it in bios
[04:13] <witakr> bazhang, one card one onboard
[04:13] <Pelo> periscope, is that the name of the module ? are you sure ?
[04:13] <Joeseph> I can hear!!!!! IT's a miracle!
[04:14] <nickrud> periscope sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[04:14] <witakr> nickrud, yes, its set to PCI
[04:14] <Pelo> Joeseph, congrats
[04:14] <witakr> when i boot
[04:14] <bazhang> witakr: you tried disabling one in the bios?
[04:14] <pat_> hi
[04:14] <pat_> any1 here?
[04:14] <periscope> Pelo, 100% sure, I probably botched my update of alsa I tried to do tonight
[04:14] <guest> hi
[04:14] <witakr> bazhang, yes
[04:14] <Pelo> pat_,  no we're all away
[04:14] <guest> how can i burn CD in Ubuntu
[04:14] <bazhang> yes pat
[04:14] <Joeseph> Pelo, I can never thank you enough: I've been working on that for a long while, you're the first person to really help me with it
[04:14] <bazhang> guest data or iso
[04:14] <nickrud> periscope that reinstall will put back the module from ubuntu
[04:14] <Pelo> guest, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:14] <pat_> i kinda need help with ICQ i'd be glad if some1 can help me
[04:14] <guest> data
[04:15] <Starnestommy> pat_: what kind of help with ICQ?
[04:15] <nickrud> pelo is still giving off some smoke
[04:15] <periscope> nickrud Thanks, I figured that would work but I didn't know how to do it
[04:15] <bazhang> guest get a burner app such as pelo suggests then
[04:15] <Pelo> Joeseph, I usualy stay away from hardware issues but you seemed desperate
[04:15] <guest> bazhang, Pelo, : E: Couldn't find package gnomebake
[04:15] <pat_> well can we go on pvt :P?
[04:16] <bazhang> guest spelling
[04:16] <Pelo> guest, open a terminal,  from the application > acessories menu , type sudo apt-get gnomebaker ,  it will install, then you can run it from the sound video menu
[04:16] <Pelo> guest, gnomebaker
[04:16] <Joeseph> thanks again Pelo, I appreciate it
[04:16] <nickrud> guest you lost an r somewhere
[04:16] <Pelo> Joeseph,  no prob my bill is in the mail
[04:16] <witakr> bazhang, nickrud, any ideas?
[04:16] <iwkse> icesword: i installed the language-locale but firefox it's still in english. I can switch it somewhere in the configuration?
[04:17] <pat_> can some1 help me then ?
[04:17] <guest> Pelo: just the same thing ecstracyfly@ubuntu:~$  sudo apt-get gnomebaker
[04:17] <guest> E: Invalid operation gnomebaker
[04:17] <icesword> iwkse, not that one, it is languauge package for ff
[04:17] <Pelo> iwkse, look in the addon, now and select the language to use
[04:17] <bazhang> guest install
[04:17] <ragsagar> gnomebaker is not gud enough that of k3b
[04:17] <ragsagar> isnt it?
[04:17] <Pelo> guest, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:17] <Pelo> ragsagar, please but out
[04:17]  * pedrosanta just installed Wine on 7.10
[04:17] <Starnestommy> pat_: what kind of problem are you having with ICQ?
[04:17] <iwkse> Pelo: thanks:)
[04:17] <nickrud> witakr no, except maybe booting into recovery mode with the normal card, running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , and selecting the vesa driver and a reasonable resolution, then putting the card back in.
[04:18] <ragsagar> gnomebaker has only limited options
[04:18] <guest> Pelo, Thanks ... it's now installing program
[04:18] <bazhang> ragsagar: please listen to pelo
[04:18] <ragsagar> ok
[04:19] <Joeseph> now all I need is a low resource music manager akin to itunes..... any suggestions?  I have Banshee, but it eats up my cpu
[04:19] <ragsagar> ok!
[04:19]  * nickrud wonders what he'll do without dpkg-reconfigure in hardy
[04:19] <Pelo> Joeseph, try beep-music-player or xmms
[04:19] <iwkse> Pelo: i don't see the language menu in addon, i'm using firefox-3 under hurdy
[04:19] <ragsagar> i knw k3b is for kde and iam a kde user
[04:19] <icesword> !&
[04:19] <pedrosanta> Joeseph: Rythmbox it's pretty nice
[04:19] <Pelo> nickrud,  it still works but it just has less options
[04:19] <witakr> nickrud, whats the vesa driver, i havent heard that one before
[04:19] <nickrud> Pelo yeah, it sucks
[04:20] <pat_> ....
[04:20] <iwkse> ue
[04:20] <ragsagar> nickrud, k3 sucks ??????? :o
[04:20] <nickrud> witakr it's the generic video driver, works with almost all cards
[04:20] <Pelo> iwkse, it's suppose to be in there,  run an update , it will probably load , I didn'T have it for a while
[04:20] <nickrud> ragsagar not talking about k3b
[04:20] <Pelo> nickrud,  we do like our options don'T we
[04:20] <nickrud> pelo that -pcritical fixes so many issues ....
[04:20] <pat_> erm....can someone explain to me how do i install tar.gz :P?
[04:21] <bazhang> pat_: what file
[04:21] <Pelo> nickrud, ;-)
[04:21] <nickrud> pat_ depends on what's in it.
[04:21] <pat_> licq ;p
[04:21] <witakr> nickrud, ok so i will try that but after editing the xserver_zorg i should reboot in normal mode?
[04:21] <periscope> nickrud, okay. I rebooted after that update, and now it is in the dropdown list in sound prefs, but it says (not connected) when it is.
[04:21] <Pelo> pat_, check in synaptic first,  ifyou have a package in the repos use it , better then compiling
[04:21] <nickrud> pat_ isn't it in the repos?  apt-cache search licq
[04:21] <nickrud> periscope try unplgging and plugging
[04:22] <bazhang> check repos pat_
[04:22] <Pelo> pat_, but meanwhile , you can look in here for an explanaiton http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:22] <iwkse> Pelo: i have ff 3beta4
[04:22] <ragsagar> pat
[04:22] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install licq pat_
[04:22] <ragsagar> just xtract the file
[04:22] <ragsagar> and read the install text file inside
[04:22] <periscope> nickrud, still says it.
[04:22] <ragsagar> and do as said
[04:22] <pat_> all right thx; d
[04:22] <bazhang> ragsagar: not good advice here
[04:22] <ragsagar> bazhang
[04:22] <nickrud> periscope not sure then. I haven't messed with usb sound (yet)
[04:22] <ragsagar> iam not getting u :(
[04:22] <diagon> Okay... I have this stupid problem, where I have two versions of ruby installed (synaptic puts it in /usr/, sources put it in /usr/local/)
[04:22] <Pelo> iwkse, so do I ,  it is possible that the package for your language is not available yet, but open a terminal and type  sudo apt-get update  ,  see if any are available , it so it might be in there
[04:23] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im wanting to put XP back on my machine, i have done this before, but im wondering if there is a way i can use grub to select my OS
[04:23] <bazhang> pat_: always best to search in the repos first
[04:23] <periscope> nickrud, it still isn't under the "default mixer tracks" category though, and I can't see it under change device in mixer
[04:23] <periscope> nickrud, ah okay, no problem
[04:23] <periscope> nickrud thanks for trying anyway heh
[04:23] <nickrud> ragsagar we advocate (strongly) packages over compiling, simply because we can support it
[04:23] <Pelo> !enter | ragsagar
[04:23] <bazhang> ToddEDM: yes; /msg ubotu grub for a link how to fix grub after
[04:23] <ragsagar> bazhang,but he asked "how to install .tar.gz" isnt it?
[04:23] <nickrud> periscope I knew how to get the module, but use the module? When I can afford it :)
[04:23] <ragsagar> its the best answer for it,isnt it?
[04:24] <periscope> nickrud, would reinstalling alsa solve anything? is that even possible? haha
[04:24] <bazhang> ragsagar: but in this case it was not needed as was in the repos you understand?
[04:24] <ragsagar> ubot5, ok
[04:24] <nickrud> ragsagar not if there's a package. Three quarters of support here is figuring out the underlying question, not just the surface one.
[04:24] <Pelo> ragsagar, there is more to it then that , and no it is not the best answer , the best answer it to tell them to check in the repos first for a precompiled package,  it is much easier
[04:24] <ragsagar> bazhang, ok
[04:25] <ragsagar> ubot5, try man ok
[04:25] <bazhang> ragsagar: as I said before listen to Pel-o
[04:25] <ToddEDM> !grub
[04:25] <RoAkSoAx> !webcam
[04:25] <nickrud> !ubotu | ragsagar
[04:27] <bazhang> pat_: really you might want to try pidgin for icq; it does just about everything in one package sudo apt-get install pidgin
[04:27]  * Joeseph thinks about just using the windows network to listen to music that way..... good idea?
[04:27] <noodlesgc_>  
[04:28] <ragsagar> pidgin is great!
[04:28] <Pelo> Joeseph, you'll be on your own
[04:28] <Pelo> ragsagar, shssss
[04:28] <bazhang> Joeseph: low resource? haha
[04:28] <Joeseph> oh good, that's always comforting :-D
[04:28]  * ragsagar shsss?
[04:28] <keverw> Hello
[04:28] <bazhang> hi
[04:28] <keverw> Can some one tell me how to get wifi
[04:28] <ragsagar> keverw ,hello
[04:28] <hsuh> anyone (a brazilian perhaps) ever had	a problem where typing 'c on a us-intl keyboard produces an ć instead of a cedilla?
[04:28] <Pelo> Joeseph, here are cli music players ...
[04:29] <nickrud> !br | hsuh (they probably know)
[04:29] <Pelo> !wifi | keverw start with this
[04:29] <Joeseph> bazhang: not that low,  just lower than banshee is....
[04:29] <keverw> I am new to ubuntu
[04:29] <Joeseph> maybe I will use a cli music player
[04:29] <keverw> Going to look at that link
[04:29] <nickrud> !wifi | keverw start here
[04:29] <Pelo> hsuh, it's probablay an auto replace in the csim
[04:29] <bazhang> Joeseph: really why bother with windows at all; linux has everything you need especially that
[04:29]  * nickrud slow
[04:30] <hsuh> there isn't anyone on ubuntu-br
[04:30] <bazhang> keverw: what card and what chipset
[04:30] <hsuh> oh, there is
[04:30] <Pelo> keverw, start with the link ubot5  gave you ,  and if you need some specific explanations as you go feel free to ask ,  I just don'T know much about wifi
[04:31] <Joeseph> bazhang: It's not my personal computer, and I set up the windows network a long time ago,  so it doesn't really matter that its coming from a windows machine...
[04:31] <nymphox> Can someone help me troubleshoot a pctel 2304w internal laptop modem.  drivers appear to be installed correctly. using wvdail I get no carrier error.
[04:31] <ragsagar> so ubotu is not a real uman??
[04:31] <keverw> how do i know what card i have?
[04:31] <ragsagar> real human??
[04:31] <bazhang> Joeseph: you can do playlists with online stuff via browser at several sites as well
[04:31] <Pelo> nymphox, try looking up the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:32] <Joeseph> bazhang: yeah I know, but..... I don't know
[04:32] <Pelo> ragsagar, this is the support channel  if you want t chit chat try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <Devourer> How can I get Ubuntu to use KDE instead of Gnome?
[04:32] <periscope> I am about to ask what is undoubtedly a staggeringly noobish question: how to I reinstall the kernel? I don't even know what the kernel is, but it is described as being a fix for a sound problem I am having
[04:32] <Starnestommy> Devourer: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <bazhang> Devourer: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <ragsagar> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <Pelo> Devourer,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , and ten come back and we'll tel you how to get rid of gnome
[04:33] <Pelo> wow, everyone knows the easy answers don't they ?
[04:33] <ragsagar> ::D
[04:33] <bazhang> Devourer: /msg ubotu puregnome and scroll down the link and see how to get purekde etc
[04:33] <Devourer> Pelo, do I have to get rid of Gnome? :'(
[04:33] <ragsagar> periscope
[04:33] <Starnestommy> Devourer: no
[04:33] <periscope> yeah?
[04:33] <keverw> is their a system profile on this
[04:33] <Pelo> periscope, it's not a noobish question, it's a very 1337 queston, I donT' even know how to do it
[04:33] <bazhang> ragsagar: please stop
[04:34] <Pelo> Devourer, you donT' I justexpected you wanted to , thatis all
[04:34] <ragsagar> u were asking how to compile and install kernel ??
[04:34] <periscope> Pelo, haha. Guess it shows how little I know either way, then
[04:34] <periscope> ragsagar yeah I guess
[04:34] <Devourer> Pelo, what if I want to go back?
[04:35] <Pelo> Devourer, if you keep both install you can swith from the login screen
[04:35] <bazhang> Devourer: just choose in session
[04:35] <periscope> specifically, I was reading this post which has my exact problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3628516&postcount=63
[04:35] <Joeseph> hey random question: yesterday when I was on xfce,on firefox,  and then 50 firefox windows decided to come up and I had to reboot... then I switched to gnome and epiphany, but.....  why did that happen? anyone know off the tops of their heads?
[04:35] <ragsagar> http://howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[04:35] <Devourer> Pelo, cool.
[04:35] <harksaw> Neither nvidia-settings nor displayconfig give me the option of setting my LCD tv to 1920x1080. I know the hardware works in Windows, how do I get it to work in Ubuntu (geforce 7600) ?
[04:35] <Pelo> Joeseph, I'll expect you didnT' have the no popup thing enabled in FF
[04:35] <keco> hi
[04:35] <bazhang> harksaw: how did you install the drivers
[04:35] <zeno> hi i have an olympus d-595 camera, but it says its not connected propperly in kdigicam, any ideas?
[04:36] <harksaw> bazhang: synaptic
[04:36] <Joeseph> Pelo: ah,  the simple things that'll get you once again....   although, I have never had a popup before, it seems odd....
[04:36] <Pelo> harksaw, try searching for nvidia resolution in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org you can probably add it manualy somewhere
[04:36] <bazhang> harksaw: could you pastebin your xorg.conf please
[04:36] <keco> help
[04:36] <keco> i have a question
[04:37] <bazhang> ask a question first keco
[04:37] <Starnestommy> keco: what do you need help with?
[04:37] <harksaw> It seems like it's an ongoing problem wiht no solution on ubuntuforums.org.
[04:37] <bazhang> harksaw: did you want us to help?
[04:37] <keco> the intel x3100
[04:37] <ragsagar> man help
[04:37] <Pelo> Joeseph, it does seem odd to me as well usualy FF has popups blocked by default,  maybe your mouse went weird nd you ended up opening a bunch of links to  new windows, who knows
[04:37] <croddy> harksaw, i had lots of problems with my 7600 and displayconfig-gtk. i recommend trying nvidia-settings to write your xorg.conf.
[04:37] <Jaime_> what the, i cant even resize my partion
[04:38] <harksaw> bazhang, absolutely, I'll post my xorg.conf
[04:38] <keco> have troubles for drivers ?
[04:38] <Pelo> keco, ask you r question in one line please
[04:38] <keco> ( my english is very bad )
[04:38] <Pelo> keco, what is your native language ?
[04:38] <LogicalDash> keco, what is your native language? There may be a different channel for it
[04:38] <bazhang> keco easy on the enter key please
[04:38] <keco> spanish
[04:38] <LogicalDash> try #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <Pelo> !es | keco
[04:38] <linkinxp> keco:  tienes ke ir al canal de espanol :P
[04:39] <keco> jeje thanks, gracias!
[04:39] <bazhang> prego ;]
[04:39] <Joeseph> Pelo: oh well, I've had other troubles with xfce and firefox anyway, I'll stick with gnome and epiphany
[04:39] <linkinxp> :D
[04:39] <Jaime_> I have tried to delete som single files on my hdd for 12 hours now but this shit just dont work...
[04:39] <gogeta> Jaime_ cant resize?
[04:39] <bazhang> language Jaime_
[04:39] <Pelo> Joeseph, you can have Firefox in gnome
[04:39] <Jaime_> swe
[04:40] <ragsagar> --1 to pelo
[04:40] <gogeta> Jaime_ its probly falged dirty if its  ntfs
[04:40] <Pelo> Jaime_, didyou have any free space on your hdd when you were in windows ?
[04:40] <Jaime_> yes 5 gig
[04:40] <bazhang> harksaw: install pastebinit then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[04:40] <gogeta> Jaime_ go into xp run cmd run chkdsk c: -f
[04:40] <Joeseph> Pelo: oh? I seem to have used it in gnome before......    either I'm confused about something or you are,  my guess is me....
[04:41] <gogeta> Jaime_ it will say in use bla bla do you wanna run it on reboot of couse say yes and boot xp again
[04:41]  * Joeseph is now confused
[04:41] <Jaime_> but i dont want to lose my data...
[04:41] <Pelo> Jaime_, ok this is what I want you to do ,  go back in vista and defrag it a few times,  then , opne my computer, right click on the icon for your  hdd ,  select  properties, tools,  and use the clean up utility , delete from there eerything you can
[04:41] <ragsagar> joseph, firefox works both in gnome and kde without any probs ...try tat its kewl
[04:42] <Jaime_> Pelo: i cant, my vista have crashed
[04:42] <gogeta> Pelo shure its just not flaged dirty man it whont resize then
[04:42] <Joeseph> I'm pretty sure I'm on gnome, and I'm pretty sure I'm using Firefox.... what do you mean Pelo?
[04:42] <bazhang> harksaw: you follow that?
[04:42] <Pelo> Joeseph, Firefoxis the default browser in ubuntu , even tho vanilla gnome uses epiphany
[04:42] <harksaw> bazhang, yes.
[04:42] <ragsagar> jaime_ neter in recover mode
[04:42] <Jaime_> no
[04:42] <Pelo> Jaime_,isnT' there a recovery partiton in your vista taht you can use to restore it ?
[04:42] <harksaw> bazhang, http://paste.stgraber.org/2634
[04:43] <Pelo> Jaime_, try asking in ##windows how to fix your vista,  , that or just get rid of it altogether
[04:43] <bazhang> harksaw: thanks looking now
[04:43] <gogeta> Jaime_ if you can get into safe mode you can system resotre
[04:43] <ragsagar> joseph,use opera but its resource hungry
[04:43] <Pelo> Joeseph, nvm , I got confused,  too many problems, too few solutions,
[04:43] <dragon_> hello
[04:44] <Devourer> I installed kubuntu-desktop... so does this mean if I logout and log back in I will have KDE? I set KDM as my default desktop manager.
[04:44] <bazhang> harksaw: this is two video cards?
[04:44] <dragon_> anybody know anything about synaptics touchpads?
[04:44] <ragsagar> Devourer
[04:44] <harksaw> bazhang, no, one video card with two outputs
[04:44] <Pelo> Devourer, yes yo ned to log out and back in
[04:44] <ragsagar> u have to select it from the login screen
[04:44] <Joeseph> alirght, now I'm hearing major sound.... something....  it sounds like its coming in from a radio station......  I'll mess around in alsamixer some, then look online, but any suggestions?
[04:44] <Jaime_> Pelo: on the vista boot disk?
[04:44] <bazhang> harksaw: you are using them both? how was that xorg.conf written?
[04:45] <Devourer> Pelo, cool, what if I want to use Gnome again? Is there something in the options in the login screen?
[04:45] <gogeta> Jaime_ what are you trying to do?
[04:45] <zero88> !ubuntu
[04:45] <gogeta> Jaime_ recover vista?
[04:45] <zero88> !ubuntu1ubotu
[04:45] <ragsagar> Devourer, yaeh there is
[04:45] <zero88> !ubotu
[04:45] <Pelo> Jaime_,  I don'T know , ask in ##windows,  get them to help you fix vista and then you'll be able to do the stuff you need with ubuntu,
[04:45] <bazhang> harksaw: have you tried the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command yet?
[04:45] <Devourer> ragsagar, thanks.
[04:45] <Pelo> Devourer, yes,  just look around  under session in the login screen I beleive
[04:45] <Joeseph> alright, I just turned the PCM down, but now I have to turn my speakers up really loud...
[04:46]  * zero88 Waves to the room.
[04:46] <RuneDeath> Hi all !
[04:46] <harksaw> bazhang, that xorg.conf was written by nvidia-settings. My main monitor works fine, my TV has a bluish square in the middle with a nearly illegible desktop, and the TV reports it's at 480i
[04:46] <Hussni> diaaaaaaa
[04:46] <bazhang> zero88: you can /msg ubotu for fun if you wish thanks
[04:46]  * Pelo waves zero88 away
[04:46] <Hussni> alguém pode dar uma mao ae???
[04:46] <harksaw> bazhang, no, what does that do?
[04:46] <Pelo> !es | Hussni
[04:46] <gogeta> Pelo if hes just trying to resotre vista he probly dont even need to install anything
[04:46] <Starnestommy> !br | harksaw
[04:46] <Starnestommy> er,
[04:46]  * zero88 looks for his .44 ......
[04:46] <Starnestommy> !br Hussni
[04:46] <keverw> I am back i went to do a system update and it said E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:46] <Hussni> hiii
[04:46] <Hussni> sorry
[04:46] <bazhang> zero88: please stop that
[04:46] <periscope> My usb sound card is not getting detected at all, I am realizing. cat /proc/asound/modules returns just my onboard, which is broken.
[04:46] <Jefrey> anyone has got the latest /etc/init.d/sendmail to spare? i accidently deleted it and can't seem to find it on the net
[04:46] <Hussni> I'm from Brazil
[04:46] <Jaime_> gogeta: my windows have crashed and i dont have enough space on my hdd to re-install windows and i dont want to delete everything
[04:47] <Pelo> gogeta, possibly
[04:47] <RuneDeath> Is there anyone that may help me installing steam with linux? i'm having some troubles with wine ..
[04:47] <Hussni> right
[04:47] <fairyeneried> Hussni ve a #ubuntu-es para ayuda en español :)
[04:47] <Pelo> !br | Hussni
[04:47]  * zero88 ask if anyone needs any help?
[04:47] <Hussni> hi zero
[04:47] <Pelo> RuneDeath, try asking in #winehq
[04:47] <ragsagar> !br | Hussni
[04:47] <Hussni> so
[04:47] <Jefrey> hi, anyone has got the latest /etc/init.d/sendmail for 2.6.22-14-server, the latest Ubuntu server, to spare? i accidently deleted it and can't seem to find it on the net
[04:47] <usantu> can anyone help me get my soapcast working properly
[04:47] <bazhang> keverw: then you need to run that command
[04:47] <Hussni> i can't use my program for music
[04:47] <gogeta> Jaime_ well if its just personal files you can back them up on a flash drive or cd
[04:47] <Hussni> i have amule
[04:47] <Hussni> but...
[04:47] <bazhang> harksaw: that tries to fix your res
[04:48] <fairyeneried> Hussni, which program?
[04:48] <Leonidas_> Hi everybody
[04:48] <gogeta> Jaime_ then reformat vista
[04:48] <Pelo> RuneDeath, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[04:48] <Hussni> banshee
[04:48] <Hussni> what the program i use...
[04:48] <bazhang> Jefrey: you can search packages.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <Hussni> ???
[04:48] <Pelo> Hussni, please donT use the enter key for punctuation this is a busy channel  state your problem in one line
[04:48] <gogeta> Jaime_ or try to ge into safe mode f8 on boot and run a system restore
[04:48] <Leonidas_> Just made the switch to Ubuntu a couple of days ago.  Bye Bye Windows!
[04:48] <fairyeneried> somebody knows what is this linux-image-virtual kernel on repositories? is it a kernel intented to host virtual machines or is a kernel intended to run as guest inside a virtual machine?
[04:48] <Hussni> ok
[04:49] <abramson> wer can i get i version of wine that supports vista or other later versionsof windows?
[04:49] <keverw> it ran it and it says
[04:49] <fairyeneried> Hussni, what is your problem?
[04:49] <Hussni> i can't to user my program
[04:49] <bazhang> abramson: best ask that in #winehq
[04:49] <dragon_> Hi all...can anyone help me configure my touchpad?  It's a pain in the a** trying to work without a mouse...
[04:49] <keverw> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:49] <keverw> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:49] <keverw> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:49] <abramson> thx
[04:49] <LSG> Leonidas_ Welcome to Ubuntu =)
[04:49] <U9527> bazhang, aha
[04:49] <Leonidas_> Thanks ALOT
[04:49] <bazhang> keverw: need to sudo that
[04:49] <Leonidas_> It feels good to be free!
[04:49] <Leonidas_> lol
[04:49] <Pelo> abramson, the lastest pacakges do  check in the dowanlod section of www.winehq.org
[04:49] <Hussni> my program is banshee
[04:50] <Jefrey> bazhang: i just need the init script, can't seem to find them in sendmail  source, i did a apt-get remove and install again, it does not restore em
[04:50] <Pelo> keverw,  sudo dpkg ....
[04:50] <gogeta> abramson hahahaha wine does not run windows
[04:50] <bazhang> Jefrey: okay, did not see that in your initial post
[04:50] <LSG> Leonidas_ Yeah, i know what you mean. I have dual boot (WinXP and Ubuntu) and everytime i need to boot WinXP i die a little inside...
[04:50] <gogeta> abramson it runs windows apps
[04:50] <usantu> i have player set as vlc in config in soapcast. but still it says connecting and does nothing
[04:50] <fairyeneried> Hussni, and your problem with banshee is exactly what problem?
[04:50] <Pelo> Hussni, type  /join #ubuntu-br that will get you to the brazilian channel you can ask for help there
[04:51] <keco> i havea flyvideo 2000, ubuntu 8.04 have support for this device?
[04:51] <Jefrey> bazhang: i tried sourcing it from sendmail source but no luck
[04:51] <bazhang> !hcl | keco
[04:51] <Leonidas_> I can do most things in Ubuntu, or at least I know how to use Google to figure them out!  But, I still need to learn a lot of terminal commands and how to compile from source myself, etc. etc.  Yes I know the dying feeling you speak of!
[04:51] <Pelo> keco, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:51] <fairyeneried> abramson, wine does not run a windows inside linux, just program designed for windows
[04:52] <Pelo> Leonidas_, these will help  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:52] <harksaw> bazhang, it only did my main monitor. How do I get it to autodetect for my TV?
[04:52] <bazhang> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ this is a good beginner bit Leonidas_
[04:52] <gogeta> Leonidas_ ./configure $$ make
[04:52] <gogeta> Leonidas_ done :)
[04:52] <gogeta> lol
[04:52] <LSG> Leonidas_ Well, luckily you can ask for help or advice in here and you'll always get answers
[04:52] <kenan_> Hey, I am having a pretty bad problem whenever I shut down my computer from the log in window. When I want to shut down, my motherboard starts beeping like crazy and my monitor starts flashing and acts random. The weird thing is that when I shut down from the user desktop it works fine. I need this problem to get fixed because whenever this happens it looks like the whole computer is gonna crash. Any ideas?
[04:53] <bazhang> harksaw: will this be always on? you can /msg ubotu dualhead or /msg ubotu xinerama for more links on that
[04:53] <fairyeneried> i'll ask again, what is this new linux-virtual kernel??? i knew the others linux-rt (real time), linux-server, linux-generic, but what is this linux-virtual???
[04:53] <harksaw> bazhang, I don't know if it's relevant, but the TV is on component cables, so autodetect probably won't work, I'm guessing
[04:53] <Leonidas_> WOW!  Ask and you shall receive!
[04:53] <abramson> dusnt it run windows apps in linux?
[04:53] <Leonidas_> lol
[04:53] <gogeta> kenan_ multibeeps sounds like a video error
[04:53] <abramson> that is wine...
[04:53] <bazhang> harksaw: that might be the issue; any way to use vga with that?
[04:53] <LSG> Leonidas_ Indeed!
[04:53] <fairyeneried> abramson, wine runs some windows apps on linux
[04:54] <abramson> does it run itunes?
[04:54] <Jefrey> i guess i'll need to reinstall another server to get that
[04:54] <bazhang> !appdb | abramson
[04:54] <dragon_> is there another channel I should join to get help with my touchpad?
[04:54] <Pelo> abramson, wine is a program you install in linux that reproduces the windows api so you can run windows program in the linux environnement
[04:54] <LSG> abramson You can always use Amarok instead of iTunes
[04:54] <fairyeneried> abramson, i think it is too hard to run itunes using wine
[04:54] <Leonidas_> Yes, I don't mind asking questions, but I want to become more than a "user" of Ubuntu, I'm going to school for Comp Sci and MIS so I would like to get more involved with Ubuntu, that's why I need to learn a lot of this stuff
[04:54] <kenan_> gogeta: where does this error come from and how do I fix it?
[04:54] <Pelo> dragon_, this is pretty much it
[04:54] <gogeta> kenan_ hate to sound dumb but check to see if your card hasent came lose
[04:54] <Pelo> !touchpad | dragon_
[04:54] <Hussni> what's the chat by Brazil???
[04:54] <ice_cream> wine is weak
[04:54] <Leonidas_> Many people, including myself are just sick of Microsoft's bullshit
[04:55] <IdleOne> !br
[04:55] <Leonidas_> it's time for a change
[04:55] <fairyeneried> abramson, cause itunes requires usb support, and access to sound system, and...
[04:55] <ice_cream> esp. ubuntu wine!
[04:55] <bazhang> language please Leonidas_
[04:55] <harksaw> bazhang, I might be able to get a dvi-hdmi adapter. Do you think that would make it possibly autoconfig?
[04:55] <Pelo> Hussni,   /join #ubuntu-br
[04:55] <fairyeneried> abramson, amarok is a really nice alternative to itunes
[04:55] <Leonidas_> I apologize
[04:55] <Leonidas_> Sorry about that
[04:55] <bazhang> harksaw: worth a shot
[04:55] <usantu> where can i get help on soapcast ?
[04:55] <Leonidas_> Maybe I should read a little more closely
[04:55] <harksaw> bazhang, i'll try picking one up. Thanks so much for your help
[04:55] <Pelo> Leonidas_, we do not bitch about windows and ms  we enjoy the competition,  but more we enjoy winning it
[04:56] <bazhang> Leonidas_: the links in the /topic are good too
[04:56] <fairyeneried> abramson, the other alternative you have is to  run a windows inside linux using a virtual machine to be able to use all the itunes features... but that's to kill a mosquito with a warhammer...
[04:56] <Leonidas_> Oh ok, thank you
[04:56] <kenan_> gogeta: well ill check it once I shut down but multibeep does not happen when it shut down from the user desktop, its only when i shut down from the log in window that I get these errors
[04:56] <abramson> kk- thx fairy-  also, wer can i get a fix for the wi-fi problem evry1 is having- i hav a first generation macbook white bottom model with extra RAM wifi worked on lepoard...
[04:56] <MrSteve> bazhang - what size should I used in partitions with a 200GB drive
[04:56] <gogeta> kenan_ is this a desktop?
[04:56] <bazhang> MrSteve: you got unetbootin working?
[04:56] <kenan_> gogeta: yes
[04:57] <MrSteve> bazhang -- not yet, but I know it will ask
[04:57] <gogeta> kenan_ try running it with acpi disabled
[04:57] <Pelo> allright, good night folks
[04:57] <nymphox> !touchpad
[04:57] <RuneDeath> I'm currently having some troubles with wine trying to install steam with linux.. anyone think they can help? ty
[04:57] <Mythril> Is something up with firefox on 7.10?
[04:57] <kenan_> gogeta: sorry im kinda noob, what is acpi and how do i disable it?
[04:57] <gogeta> kenan_ pass acpi=off apm=off to grub and see how it acts then
[04:57] <fairyeneried> abramson, maybe ndiswrapper, but I'm not sure
[04:57] <LSG> Mythril Not that i know of..
[04:57] <Mythril> It keeps telling me that "extensions has no properties" in the error console of my firefox
[04:58] <MrSteve> bazhang - right after the unetbootin gets installed, it reboots the pc, and then will start..
[04:58] <abramson> alrite, and u no anythin about wi-fi by any chance?
[04:58] <fairyeneried> and... abramson, try to use full words, not everyone here is english native speaker, and for people like me, it is hard to read it and give help to you
[04:58] <bazhang> MrSteve: this is dual boot or all for ubuntu? if only ubuntu then you might wish to have a seperate /home partition (bigger the better), / (around 20GB if you can) /swap (normallly double ram but depends) and then /boot of about 100MB that should do
[04:58] <usantu> ok guys
[04:59] <abramson> oh, sorry.. I'll try
[04:59] <usantu> bye for bow
[04:59] <gogeta> kenan_ for a little guide press e at kernel on grub
[04:59] <MrSteve> bazhang -- 200GB .. all Ubuntu
[04:59] <usantu> now
[04:59] <gogeta> kenan_ and add those 2 to it and boot
[04:59] <gogeta> at the end
[04:59] <bazhang> MrSteve: then that should do (as outlined above)
[04:59] <MrSteve> bazhang -- mebe 3x 60 partions?
[04:59] <fairyeneried> abramson, ;) is just to be able to read it faster and give you the correct help you need ;)
[05:00] <abramson> ya, I  know
[05:00] <reidiculous> \quit
[05:00] <bazhang> MrSteve: 60GB for / ? the entire ubuntu repos is only 45 GB ;]
[05:00] <gogeta> kenan_ if it works then well make ir a  perment option
[05:00] <fairyeneried> well, i think nobody knows what is this virtual kernel about...
[05:00] <Leonidas_> Pelo, Yes winning it is a good thing.  You know, I was thinking about that today.  If the PC gaming market dies (it's in a slow death now) many more people would switch to Linux in my opinion
[05:00] <abramson> When i use french servers.... You get the picture
[05:00] <dragon_> I've already done what it says on that guide, but I can't get the touchpad gui or synclient to work...both tell me to set SHMConfig to "true" in my xorg.conf, but it's there!  My xorg.config reads exactly like it says on the tutorial, but it's still not working...
[05:00] <nonewmsgs>  how do you get a picture with a geforce 7900?
[05:00] <abramson> :-(
[05:00] <MrSteve> bazhang --- aye.. Okay, so one 60 for Ubuntu?
[05:00] <abramson> lol
[05:01] <MrSteve> bazhang -- One for apps
[05:01] <MrSteve> bazhang -- One for storage & Share
[05:01] <Leonidas_> How long have you guys been using Ubuntu?
[05:01] <LSG> Leonidas_ Pelo just left
[05:01] <bazhang> MrSteve: not like in windows; please read what I wrote above or ask pel ~0
[05:01] <Leonidas_> Oh I see
[05:01] <Leonidas_> thanks
[05:01] <fairyeneried> Leonidas_ from breezy
[05:01] <MrSteve> NOT like in Windows???
[05:02] <Leonidas_> I see
[05:02] <LSG> Leonidas_ Since Feisty i think
[05:02] <nonewmsgs>  how do you get a picture with a geforce 7900?
[05:02] <MrSteve> actually, I have not started Using Linux.. yet
[05:02] <nonewmsgs> oops already typed that
[05:02] <nonewmsgs> sorry
[05:02] <bazhang> MrSteve: you can go for default or setup seperate home etc
[05:02] <kenan_> gogeta: so when i boot into grub i add this?: pass acpi=off apm=off
[05:02] <dragon_> * /msg ubotu etiquette
[05:02] <MrSteve> yes.. seperate
[05:02] <gogeta> MrSteve :-(
[05:03] <gogeta> kenan no pass
[05:03] <kenan_> ok
[05:03] <gogeta> just acpi=off apm=off
[05:03] <fairyeneried> i have to go now
[05:03] <fairyeneried> bye guys
[05:03] <gogeta> to goes with the main boot
[05:03] <abramson> fairy: you suggested I use Amarok as an alternate to iTunes; does it work with iPhones, and does it recieve apple updates?
[05:03] <Leonidas_> Yeah I've been on and off since Feisty, but my laptop doesn't have that good of performance like my PC, so I said time for the whole shabang!
[05:03] <zeno> when i connect my camera i get [ 2311.004000] usb 3-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd digikam rqt 128 rq 6 len 1000 ret -110 :(
[05:03] <kenan_> ok ill try that now
[05:03] <kenan_> thanks
[05:03] <bazhang> MrSteve: that way if you want to do some other distro or just a fresh install of Hardy (next release) then nothing will be touched of your data settings etc
[05:03] <abramson> If so, how do I update my iPhone to it?
[05:03] <rlanham> what is the command in terminal to tell what users are logged in?
[05:03] <fairyeneried> abramson, oh! i don't know if amarok will work with an ipod...
[05:04] <Leonidas_> I've been trying to get my Creative MP3 player working, almost have it going.
[05:04] <abramson> oh......
[05:04] <MrSteve> I just don't fathom...
[05:04] <bazhang> abramson: you dont use itunes in windows or apple; or use windows in a vm and do it there via iTunes
[05:04] <fairyeneried> abramson, then install a virtualbox, a windows inside, and use the ipod through this windows
[05:04] <eaglestar> i have a question i am trying to turn on my wifi but it is not in the gui but the restricted driver is loaded how do i go around this
[05:05] <MrSteve> I see, I need a / , diresctory, and a /home , directory.. and var, and swap, and etc etc.. and they are so small
[05:05] <bazhang> eaglestar: what does ifconfig report? three entries or two
[05:05] <abramson> What virtual machines are free for linux - parralels is the only one I know of, and you have to buy it...?
[05:05] <eaglestar> 2 entries
[05:05] <eaglestar> lo etho
[05:05] <eaglestar> no wlan
[05:05] <gogeta> abramson vmware beta
[05:05] <bazhang> vmware vbox are the two main contenders abramson
[05:05] <eaglestar> how do i paste
[05:05] <eaglestar> where do i paste
[05:06] <bazhang> !paste
[05:06] <LSG> Leonidas_ I use Amarok for my iPod nano and it works perfectly
[05:06] <alteregoa> i use amarok for my foobar2000 and it works better
[05:06] <ubuntu> anyone know how i can start daemon
[05:06] <gogeta> abramson oh i thought me ment one with the same feature set :P
[05:06] <Leonidas_> I've used Amarok for the Creative, there is also Gnomad2 but for some reason the apps freeze or crash.
[05:07] <bazhang> ubuntu what daemon
[05:07] <eaglestar> i think i did lwsfg or something like that i will paste it
[05:07] <Leonidas_> lsusb recognizes the player
[05:07] <LSG> alteregoa Mine works better than your better
[05:07] <abramson> thx guys, I'm new to Ubuntu, so having peers who are willing to help is really great
[05:07] <gogeta> abramson thers a pretty large list of free ones
[05:07] <Leonidas_> and I can see the files on it
[05:07] <eaglestar> this paste link doesn't work
[05:07] <abramson> kk
[05:07] <Leonidas_> it's just "buggy"
[05:07] <bazhang> abramson: and we never sleep ;]
[05:07] <abramson> lol
[05:07] <gogeta> ever :-(
[05:07] <ubuntu> im trying to run postgresql and get a message that "psql: could not connect to server: no such file or directory. Is the server running locally and accepting connection on unix domain socket...."
[05:08] <bazhang> eaglestar: okay install pastebinit and then cat whatever you want | pastebinit
[05:08] <abramson> is there a way to search for tags, not by name- I don't know any of this stuff, i started yesterday with ubuntu...
[05:08] <Starnestommy> ubuntu: run 'sudo invoke-rc.d postgresql-8.2 start"
[05:08] <gogeta> gooogle.com/linux
[05:08] <bazhang> abramson: mp3 tags?
[05:08] <eaglestar> wtf i
[05:08] <eaglestar> dunno what your talking about
[05:08] <eaglestar> :)
[05:08] <abramson> no, in add/remove section
[05:09] <bazhang> eaglestar: for example cat ifconfig | pastebinit and then paste the url here
[05:09] <LSG> abramson: write any keyword and it should find it in the names or descriptions
[05:09] <gogeta> abramson well that you shooting for
[05:09] <Leonidas_> I'm not too worried about the player though.  I did notice that Gnomad2 has a new version out but for some reason Ubuntu is telling me the one I have is the latest version when it's not
[05:09] <gogeta> abramson easy or fast
[05:09] <eaglestar> duh i don't have internet on my linux partition
[05:09] <dragon_> anyone got any ideas about configuring a touchpad on a PC concepts SK-6000 keyboard?  I've checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#head-ec8399c81fe7875556afc22ecf05decd72f7c28d but it doesn't help...my xorg.conf looks exactly like this one, but no mouse
[05:09] <bazhang> eaglestar: sudo apt-get install pastebinit from the terminal
[05:09] <abramson> easy
[05:10] <gogeta> abramson vmware
[05:10] <eaglestar> read above duh
[05:10] <ATM> how install ubuntu 7.10 dock ?
[05:10] <bazhang> eaglestar: duh is for yourself or for me
[05:10] <gogeta> abramsonvmware-server
[05:10] <gogeta> abramson vmware-server
[05:10] <abramson> isnt supported by my machine... any other suggestions?
[05:10] <gogeta> abramsom vmware works for all
[05:10] <ubuntu> STARNESTOMMY thanks for the tip but i get: "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 not found"
[05:10] <gogeta> abramson odd
[05:11] <kenan_> gogeta: i booted into grub, pressed e and then made a new line, then added acpi=off apm=off but i still got the same problem when i shut down
[05:11] <abramson> is virtual box good?
[05:11] <gogeta> kenan_ lol not a new line
[05:11] <Starnestommy> ubuntu: which version of postgresql do you have installed?
[05:11] <gogeta> kenan_ add it to the kernel line
[05:11] <bazhang> atm you want avant-window-navigator
[05:11] <eaglestar> ok found a different site
[05:11] <eaglestar> http://paste.uni.cc/18593
[05:11] <Jaime_> goodnigt guys
[05:11] <Jaime_> thanks for all help
[05:11] <abramson> night jaime
[05:11] <bazhang> bye jaime
[05:12] <ubuntu> i have 8.0.15 and i just adjusted the command you gave me but i received the same messages
[05:12] <eaglestar> please look under pci-2 network
[05:12] <ubuntu> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.0.15 not found
[05:12] <gogeta> kenan_ pass a option is linux talk for add lol sorry
[05:12] <kenan_> gogeta: lol ok, but i did a search on google acout acpi and it also said stuff about noapic. When I boot the livecd on my computer i always have to edit the boot options and add
[05:12] <kenan_> 'noapic'
[05:12] <kenan_> so do u think that they might be related
[05:12] <Starnestommy> ubuntu: run 'ls /etc/init.d | grep postgres
[05:12] <gogeta> kenan_ yea maybe
[05:13] <gogeta> kenan_ i turned all 3 off on my old pc
[05:13] <gogeta> kenan_ had acpi issues\
[05:13] <gogeta> kenan_  acpi=off noapic apm=off
[05:13] <kenan_> gogeta: ok im gonna try again and if that doesnt work ill try to just add noapic and see what happens as well
[05:13] <gogeta> kenan_ add all 3
[05:14] <gogeta> :-(
[05:14] <eaglestar> *-network UNCLAIMED
[05:14] <eaglestar>              description: Ethernet controller
[05:14] <eaglestar>              product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[05:14] <eaglestar>              vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
[05:14] <eaglestar>              physical id: 0
[05:14] <eaglestar>              bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[05:14] <FloodBot3> eaglestar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <eaglestar>              version: 01
[05:14] <Leonidas_> You guys excited about the upcoming LTS version of Ubuntu?  What's it's "code name."
[05:14] <gogeta> owned
[05:14] <gogeta> lol
[05:14] <eaglestar> is there a work around
[05:15] <ATM> i want install avant-window-navigator,but i can't find it.
[05:15] <gogeta> yea pastbin
[05:15] <sean_> after the latest set up ubuntu updates, i restarted my computer and it loads fine but the system won't respond to the mouse or keyboard (although the mouse moves around)
[05:15] <sean_> ATM, try awn instead?
[05:15] <ATM> ?
[05:15] <ATM> how?
[05:16] <abramson> any suggestions for a noobie guys?
[05:16] <sean_> ATM, hm, that doesn't seem to be it.
[05:16] <abramson> sumthin that i can do to personalize it thats not too hard...
[05:16] <bazhang> http://digg.com/linux_unix/How2_Avant_Window_Navigator_AWN_for_Ubuntu_Gutsy ATM
[05:16] <nymphox> Ok I searched the forums and cant find anymore info. I have previously searched linmodems.org. and the pctel modem seems to dailout but just before the handshake can complete I get No Carrier. I have been working on this for two weeks and cant get past this yet.
[05:16] <eaglestar> any help
[05:16] <rlanham> I wish trying to ge dual moniters to work on differeent sized screens wasnt such a PITA
[05:16] <tuntun> Hi again. Are there any devs in here?
[05:16] <gogeta> nympho try a diffrent number
[05:16] <sean_> When you type "sudo apt-get install avant" then hit tab, it doesn
[05:16] <sean_> 't come up?
[05:16] <eaglestar> any one can help me with wifi connection pm me please
[05:17] <abramson> eagle, im havi same problem...
[05:17] <sean_> rlanham, I agree wholeheartidly. To make it worse I used to use one LCD and one CRT.
[05:17] <Leonidas_> LSG Well, I'm going to go take a look at that newb stuff.  lol.  Thanks a lot for those links, I really appreciate it, see you around hopefully.
[05:17] <Scunizi> abramson: read this Irc channel, experiment with what you want to do.. , keep track of interesting items that you anticipate needing in the future. give back to this channel on help items you now know and can pass on.
[05:17] <rlanham> Well I really want to use with my lappy but my work lcd is different then my home
[05:18] <abramson> kk
[05:18] <rlanham> and really need two moniters to do my job effectivly
[05:18] <nymphox> tried that, it work in windows correctly
[05:18] <rlanham> anything coming out in later distros to make it easier?
[05:18] <gogeta> nymphox i installed the dell drivers for a hst modem on my cxt works fine
[05:18] <rlanham> or packages to install to make dual moniters easier?
[05:19] <Scunizi> sean_: use synaptic.. it's graphical ..
[05:19] <gogeta> nymphox granted there where both connix modems thow
[05:20] <MrSteve> i do know ATI has that Catalyst thing, and it sets monitors, and desktops
[05:20] <kenan_> gogeta: alright thanks, that might have fixed it because i shut it down twice and i didnt get problems. But can you please tell me what disabling acpi and apm does?
[05:20] <sean_> Scunizi, true, he could just search for it in synaptic
[05:20] <gogeta> kenan_ its linux power mangment
[05:20] <Tweaker> Im back
[05:20] <diagon> synaptic is wanting me to install a dependency which I already have installed, by source... how can I tell it "no"? or direct it to where it's installed
[05:20] <gogeta> kenan_ it can be largly buggy on a older system
[05:21] <abramson> does any1 no wat i can do to fix my wifi?
[05:21] <Tweaker> this game is getting past the update, why is that?
[05:21] <Tweaker> isnt*
[05:21] <tuntun> Why on earth do I have do a search for file 'foo' before I get the chance to configure the search?!?!
[05:21] <gogeta> kenan_ but a desktop doesent need it anyways your bios mandel it fine
[05:21] <nymphox> gogeta:  You talking about the one for the inspirons if so i tried that one also i am currently using slamr
[05:21] <kenan_> gogeta: my computer is really new so why would i have this problem?
[05:21] <gogeta> kenan_ maybe to new
[05:21] <gogeta> kenan_ lol
[05:21] <sean_> MrSteve, there's one for nVidia too. nvidia-settings I believe.
[05:21] <kenan_> gogeta: lol
[05:22] <gogeta> kenan_ acpi is largly buggy and useless on a desktop its ment for laptops
[05:22] <Tweaker> So the game wont update, why is that?
[05:23] <kenan_> gogeta: alright, so how do I now make it boot always with acpi and apm off?
[05:23] <gogeta> kenan_ years back it used to just be disabled by defult on a desktop but they started leaving it enabled
[05:23] <gogeta> kenan_ add those to your grub.conf file
[05:23] <kenan_> gogeta: whats the grub.conf file directory?
[05:23] <gogeta> kenan_ same line you typed them befor you will see it
[05:23] <nymphox> gogeta:  You talking about the one for the inspirons if so i tried that one also i am currently using slamr
[05:24] <gogeta> kenan_ /etc//boot if im not wrong may just be /boot
[05:24] <gogeta> nymphox yea
[05:24] <gogeta> nymphox to bad i dont knoe your modem
[05:24] <gogeta> nymphox it was aguess
[05:26] <Tweaker> So i guess know one understands my problem?
[05:27] <nymphox> according to what I have researched any of the smartlinks drivers work this is and old  Dell lattitude C610
[05:27] <gogeta> kenan_  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:27] <legend2440> Tweaker: what game are you talking about?
[05:28] <Tweaker> Secrets of Mirage, the 2d mmo
[05:28] <tuntun> Main-menu > Accessories > Tracker-Search-Tool   ...Who the hell thought that It would be a good idea to only let the user configure the search after having done a first search?!?!
[05:28] <kenan_> gogeta: ok thank you
[05:29] <gogeta> kenan_ you have to be su to edit it of course
[05:29] <nymphox> maybe I didnt setup wvdial.conf correctly
[05:29] <kenan_> gogeta:yup
[05:29] <gogeta> kenan_ but just add it to the same line as befor its the same format
[05:30] <gogeta> kenan_ then save it
[05:30] <DriveTrax> can't wait to see ubuntu OS .. do it tomorrow.. for sure!  About 3:30 I will be here AGAIN
[05:31] <keco> someboy is user of gentoo?
[05:31] <gogeta> keco :-(
[05:32] <Starnestommy> keco: someone in #gentoo is
[05:32] <irelinquish> hey whats a good mouse and key recorder?
[05:33] <gogeta> relinquish a good windows vires :-D
[05:33] <alarmo> Hello, everyone. Does anyone know a way of tuning a notebook's LCD's contrast setting (video adapter is an intel)... I can do that with a software from the driver in Windows but I'm having a hard time finding it here at 'buntu
[05:33] <irelinquish> lmao
[05:33] <irelinquish> no but i really need one
[05:33] <irelinquish> i have to spam a phone
[05:34] <tuntun> Main-menu > Accessories > Tracker-Search-Tool   ...Oh great... And it it only searches within the home dir...without even telling you!!! This is turning into a farce...
[05:34] <gogeta> alarmo -gamma xgamma 2.0
[05:34] <irelinquish> hey whats a good mouse and key recorder?
[05:34] <gogeta> alarmo eh  backwords
[05:34] <gogeta> alarmo xgamma -gamma 2.0
[05:35] <alarmo> gogeta,  I'm not exactly looking for gamma settings... it's contrast... I can turn down brightness and gama... but what is bothering me is the contrast, really.
[05:35] <gogeta> alarmo xcontrast lol
[05:36] <gogeta> that was a wiled guess
[05:36] <alarmo> hahah :) no such program
[05:36] <alarmo> it is probably some weird proprietary thing in intel's own driver... argh :(
[05:36] <gogeta> alarmo acully i beleve xgamma has alot of diffrent modes
[05:36] <Triox> where in 7.10 would I do to adjust the screen for a tablet. Touching the center of the screen puts the curser almost to the top right corner
[05:36] <gogeta>  look threw the command list
[05:36] <alarmo> hmmm I never thought of it... I only use xgamma ... well... for gamma... I"ll check it out
[05:37] <gogeta> alarmo i knoe you can controle eatch rgb
[05:37] <alarmo> nope... only gamma settings and each rgb
[05:37] <gogeta> alarmo darn
[05:38] <alarmo> I tried turning down the brightness (and that led me to a good hunt on /proc, since my notebooks acpi puts that in a really weird place)...
[05:38] <Oath> hey everybody......
[05:38] <Oath> Every time I boot up any live CD (tryed ubuntu, sabayon, suse, etc) It frezes up mid load. It stopped during "udevs" for sabayon, maybe the others but they didn't list what was happening during the load.
[05:38] <alarmo> but even with brightness at mininum and a dark theme, whenever I open a white page on a browser I almost get blind :P
[05:38] <Oath> help plz
[05:39] <alarmo> Oath, most live cds allow you to skip ACPI and other hardware related features.... have you tried those yet ?
[05:39] <tinomen> Oath: I am having a similar issue
[05:39] <Oath> I've tried just about every option they give you on the live CD's
[05:39] <Oath> extra params command line laod etc
[05:39] <DriveTrax> Oath -- unetbootin?
[05:39] <Monobi> any fairly easy way to go about creating a custom live ubuntu CD
[05:40] <gogeta> Oath normaly acpi is something you got to set yourself
[05:40] <Oath> how would I do that?
[05:40] <gogeta> Oath press e
[05:40] <gogeta> lol
[05:40] <Oath> during the load? :o
[05:40] <gogeta> add
[05:41] <gogeta> yea at the boot screen
[05:41] <Oath> alright
[05:41] <gogeta> hit e add
[05:41] <gogeta> acpi=off apm=off noapic
[05:41] <Oath> I'm using a 7.04 ubuntu live CD btw
[05:41] <gogeta> Oath best way to see if its that
[05:41] <nymphox> Oath try bootin unbuntu livecd in failsafe mode
[05:41] <gogeta> Oath yea failsafe has those on it
[05:41] <Monobi> any fairly easy way to go about creating a custom live ubuntu CD, sorry if I'm being repetitive
[05:41] <Oath> Pretty sure I've tried failsafe
[05:42] <gogeta> Oath do you have something like a usb drive plugged in
[05:42] <Oath> monobi: how exactly would I do that?
[05:42] <Oath> I have a usb mouse
[05:42] <Oath> no flash drive
[05:42] <gogeta> Oath humm
[05:43] <gogeta> Oath how mutch ram
[05:43] <Oath> 2.5gb
[05:43] <tinomen> what does the usb flash drive plugged in do?
[05:43] <gogeta> Oath lol
[05:43] <Oath> yea, should be covered there :)
[05:43] <alarmo> Gee... and I thought my 2 gigs were too much :P
[05:43] <ptn107> Monobi: you check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:43] <tinomen> cause I do have one plugged in
[05:43] <gogeta> tinomen will mine can make my pc not boot
[05:43] <Monobi> thanks
[05:44] <tinomen> cool, I will try removing mine and try the live cd again
[05:44] <gogeta> tinomen now if i plug it in after no prob
[05:44] <aoshi> Is there no easy way to install drivers for an 8800GT in ubuntu?
[05:44] <Oath> I will try the acpi first
[05:44] <ptn107> Monobi: this tool make make it easier for you, it takes out all the command line work   http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:44] <alarmo> yeah, sometimes the hardware detecting procedure messes itself up when in the presence of USB hardware.... never quite got the reason, thought I never really cared..
[05:45] <knoxville> anyone know how to setup ldap server
[05:45] <tinomen> I actually have a crapload of USB stuff plugged in
[05:45] <Monobi> ptn107, even better :)
[05:45] <gogeta> Oath niapic should get around your usb mouse frezzing stuff up
[05:45] <gogeta> Oath if it is
[05:45] <doolz_> quit
[05:45] <gogeta> noapic
[05:45] <Oath> ok, i'll give that a try
[05:46] <gogeta> Oath thats why i said add all 3
[05:46] <legend2440> what is the cli command to bring up app where you can turn on and off services and check runlevels?
[05:46] <alarmo> oneday I'll see a live cd with a "nokernel" option... gee... they have no-everything already :)
[05:46] <Oath> yea, I wrote that down
[05:46] <jrib> legend2440: sysv-rc-conf?
[05:46] <gogeta> alarmo the majic boot=off
[05:46] <gogeta> lol
[05:47] <aoshi> Does anyone here have experience installing the drivers for an 8800GT?
[05:47] <alarmo> gogeta, hehehe something like that :P
[05:47] <hvgotcodes> hey can anyone help me get the windows key map to mod_4 so i can use awesome wm?
[05:47] <gogeta> alarmo oh wait we have it vista=on
[05:47] <alarmo> gogeta, I don't understand one thing...
[05:47] <legend2440> jrib yes thats it thanks
[05:47] <alarmo> I bought this notebook with Vista pre loaded... and I actually need a windows for I work with Visual Studio .Net ... so I decided to leave it there and dual boot...
[05:48] <gogeta> alarmo :-X
[05:48] <misfit_246> !ntfs
[05:48] <alarmo> but even with the preloaded anti virus (ok, some cheap free stuff) it managed to get infected in 4 days...
[05:48] <littlepinkdot> Is there a way to create a complete tunnel (VPN) using OpenSSH on the server and some sort of a client on Windows?
[05:48] <gogeta> ;-)
[05:48] <alarmo> And the thing is supposed to be more secure than XP ????
[05:48] <gogeta> windows dcs
[05:48] <alarmo> now I'm back to Buntu and XP on this machine....
[05:48] <misfit_246> my ubuntu system is screwed up since I added automatix
[05:48] <gogeta> dosent catch shit
[05:48] <knoxville> anyone know how to setup ldap server???
[05:49] <misfit_246> I'm having trouble backing up files into my external hard drive
[05:49] <misfit_246> it's ntfs and says I don't have write permissions
[05:49] <irelinquish> gogeta, it worked. he finally called me and said he was sorry
[05:49] <misfit_246> i tried sudo
[05:49] <irelinquish> so i dont need the program any more
[05:49] <misfit_246> can someone please help?
[05:49] <gogeta> irelinquish ?
[05:49] <Triox> Any tablet users know if it's possible to configure your screen? Touching the middle of the screen puts the curser almost to the top right
[05:49] <Oath> alright, tryin it out
[05:49] <irelinquish> the reason i needed the mouse and key recorder
[05:49] <gogeta> irelinquish lol
[05:50] <irelinquish> oohh man never mind gogeta wrong window
[05:50] <ptn107> littlepinkdot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[05:50] <gogeta> Triox probly in the tablit options
[05:51] <Pedd1> firefox is using 1GB of ram. Is this normal?
[05:51] <littlepinkdot> ptn107, doesnt say anything about the client side being windows
[05:51] <gogeta> Pedd1 yea it can do that at times
[05:51] <msingh> does anyone have 4Gb of ram? What does free report to you?
[05:51] <gogeta> Pedd1 if you have alot of tabs open
[05:51] <Triox> I tried searching for tablet options, but couldn't find a place to configure it sadly
[05:51] <moya> is packages.ubuntu.com down ?
[05:51] <alarmo> Pedd1, sometimes firefox gets drunk and starts taking whatever he sees in front of him.... such a naughty browser...
[05:52] <Pedd1> moya: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[05:52] <tempest> Mem:       4057048    1602468    2454580          0      79860     812772
[05:52] <tempest> 4gb
[05:52] <gogeta> alarmo it is a fox it dedcided to steal your ram and first born
[05:52] <alarmo> yeah
[05:52] <Pedd1>  :( how do I stop him :(
[05:52] <msingh> tempest, thanks.
[05:52] <alarmo> its actually the FIRE fox... it burns run like a mad man...
[05:52] <gogeta> Pedd1 you dont :P
[05:53] <msingh> mine only reports  3354588. weird.
[05:53] <gogeta> Pedd1 but sersuly java can realy make its ram shoot up
[05:53] <gogeta> Pedd1 closing it should fix it
[05:53] <alarmo> Pedd1, usually killing all firefox processes and starting it again solves it... well... it usually solves all not-kernel memory leaks
[05:53] <tempest> am using 64bit hardy
[05:53] <ptn107> littlepinkdot: oh, can't tightvnc do that natively
[05:53] <tempest> not sure if that makes the difference
[05:53] <msingh> tempest, as am I!
[05:53] <Peddy> I have a DL going on :(
[05:53] <gogeta> Pedd1 firefox has had that memery leak for ages
[05:54] <alarmo> close all the windows.... if it doesn't solve, search (with ps) for any firefox process around.... and kill them all.... it's fox hunting season, you know ?
[05:54] <littlepinkdot> pteague, tightvnc is vnc lol Im looking for a vpn
[05:54] <alarmo> gogeta, they say 3.0 will solve it
[05:54] <gogeta> alarmo: rite and vista is fast
[05:54] <aoshi> If anyone here knows how to install the drivers for an 8800GT please PM me O:
[05:54] <alarmo> gogeta, well, actually my 3.0 beta is working like a charm here....
[05:54] <Peddy> as soon as my 'linux ISOs' have finished
[05:54] <TRC2908> i need to mount an ext hard drive, can anyone advise how to edit fstab?
[05:54] <Peddy> downloading
[05:55] <Lake> hey, any way to make user only see their files in a particular folder (like their home folder) ?
[05:55] <alarmo> but I will take a little long for me to notice anything... it'll have to burn almost 2Gigs of ram
[05:55] <gogeta> Lake yep
[05:55] <alarmo> Lake didn't really understood your question :(
[05:55] <gogeta> Lake remove read rites to everything but home
[05:55] <Peddy> is anyone doing anything about fixing this FF bug?
[05:55] <Peddy> :P
[05:55] <Peddy> its not very sexy
[05:55] <aro> Peddy, what bug
[05:55] <Lake> alarmo: I want to create a user that only sees files in it's home folder
[05:56] <Lake> alarmo: so it can't actually see any files outside of it and obviously cant execute any programs or executables
[05:56] <alarmo> hmmmm....he WILL have to see some other files, after all, if you want to execute some file, you'll have to read it...
[05:56] <Peddy> aro, its using 1GB of RAM
[05:56] <Peddy> aro, alarmo says its a memory leakage bug
[05:56] <Peddy> or something
[05:56] <aro> Peddy, never had Firefox use that much on me before
[05:56] <gogeta> Lake kinda exessiv
[05:56] <Lake> gogeta: I have to remove read rights for the whole system minus the user's home folder ?
[05:57] <gogeta> Lake naa that might not work
[05:57] <alarmo> Lake, I'm sorry to keep asking but... what would you do with such a user ?
[05:57] <Lake> gogeta: well, I am trying to make a file server through SSH..
[05:57] <Peddy> aro, especially since I only have one tab and one download giong
[05:57] <gogeta> Lake jeezz
[05:57] <Peddy> going*
[05:57] <gogeta> Lake just use ftp
[05:57] <Lake> gogeta: as simple as ssh to set up ? :)
[05:57] <gogeta> Lake lol
[05:58] <gogeta> Lake install a ftp server you can make only 1 folder vusable
[05:58] <Lake> gogeta: can people upload as well ?
[05:58] <gogeta> Lake if you whant yes
[05:58] <alarmo> Lake, but it won't be cryptographed...
[05:58] <Lake> gogeta: would you say it's painful do this via shell ?
[05:59] <gogeta> Lake making such a user would be painfull
[05:59] <alarmo> Hmmm you could do some weird stuff, I guess
[05:59] <ToddEDM> hiya guys.. so im trying to add windows to my laptop...can anyone help me , i cant partition the HDD
[05:59] <alarmo> I mean....
[05:59] <alarmo> using some login script to chroot the guy into some really limited sandbox...
[05:59] <Lake> gogeta: I mean, would setting up ftp make me cry if I did it not in a GUI
[05:59] <alarmo> but I really don't know how that would turn out...
[05:59] <gogeta> Lake probly not
[06:00] <gogeta> Lake ftps ben around longer then ssh
[06:00] <gogeta> v its just setting up a user and rite and folders
[06:00] <Lake> gogeta: so has death, but I dont like it more :P just kidding, but all right, here I go, new worlds to explore!
[06:00] <gogeta> Lake and turning it on
[06:00] <ToddEDM> can someone help me with Gparted?
[06:00] <Lake> gogeta: that sounds a little bit like samba
[06:00] <gogeta> Lake yep
[06:01] <alarmo> Lake, I don't know the software... but it looks like this Pure FTPd would be simple enough
[06:01] <gogeta> Lake you could do that w samba to
[06:01] <Lake> gogeta: wouldnt sambe be less secure ?
[06:01] <gogeta> Lake lol so is ftp
[06:02] <gogeta> Lake anything other then ssh is less secure
[06:02] <alarmo> well, I guess you can't use sambe over internet, can you ?
[06:02] <Lake> gogeta: which is why a hardcore ssh user account would be perfect :P
[06:02] <alarmo> only local network... or am I wrong ?
[06:02] <gogeta> alarmo i dunno never tryed
[06:02] <TRC2908> i need to mount an ext hard drive, can anyone advise how to edit fstab? how do i login as root?
[06:03] <gogeta> Lake you gonna have to make some kind of sandbox user to make sh work
[06:03] <gogeta> ssh
[06:03] <alarmo> Lake, take a look at this page: http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd
[06:03] <gogeta> Lake with acess to 1 folder and ssh
[06:03] <Lake> alarmo: thx
[06:03] <Lake> gogeta: yeah, thats what I wanted to do in the 1st place
[06:03] <aoshi> If anyone here knows how to install the drivers for an 8800GT please PM me..
[06:03] <alarmo> Lake, just keep in mind that I don't actually KNOW this software... it came out of a google search.
[06:04] <Lake> alarmo: exploring is fun in any case
[06:04] <gogeta> Lake iv seen it done
[06:05] <gogeta> Lake hears something on it
[06:05] <gogeta> http://andrew-rose.blogspot.com/2008/02/roll-your-own-n-server-sandbox.html
[06:05] <TRC2908> i need to mount an ext hard drive, can anyone advise how to edit fstab? how do i login as root?
[06:05] <Lake> gogeta: it's pretty hardcore..so I just take the user's read, write & execute rights from everywehre minus the home folder
[06:06] <jrib> !sudo > TRC2908 (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:06] <jrib> TRC2908: what filesystem?
[06:06] <tempest> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[06:06] <witakr> hello folks, im back
[06:06] <gogeta> Lake that would defently sandbox the user
[06:06] <tinomen> bah, no luck with 8.04, 7.10, safe mode, usbs disconnected, I guess this comp cant run a live cd, worth a shot though
[06:07] <Lake> gogeta: hmm okay, now I just gotta find the command lines to do this over SSH since my server is headless
[06:07] <witakr> nickrud, I tried what you said about running in recovery mode
[06:07] <yesily> haha
[06:07] <Lake> thanks gogeta  and thanks alarmo for your attention span :)
[06:08] <TRC2908> i think its dev/sda
[06:08] <gogeta> Lake your better off w ftp and a virtule machine
[06:08] <yesily> 看看能用中文不  阿阿阿阿
[06:08] <yesily> 能用
[06:08] <gogeta> Lake if someone hacks your su password on ssh they can wreak havic
[06:09] <Lake> gogeta: hm yeah, I think so too
[06:09] <TRC2908> new to ubuntu - how do i log in as root
[06:09] <gogeta> Lakeusing a vm you can limit the damage to the fake pc
[06:09] <Lake> gogeta: Im not ready for a virtual machine and I am also not ready to screw up my installation because I am changing system-wide read rights
[06:09] <jrib> TRC2908: read the private message from ubotu
[06:09] <Lake> gogeta: but its a good idea nontheless
[06:10] <TRC2908> how do i access that?
[06:10] <snowdoll> yesily: 在這裡用中文其他人可能會看到亂碼的
[06:10] <jrib> !sudo | TRC2908
[06:10] <gogeta> Lake lol you dont change em system wide just the user
[06:10] <Lake> gogeta: I thikn I am going to go with an FTP server
[06:10] <gogeta> Lake yea alot easer
[06:10] <gogeta> Lake i would say ftp plus vm
[06:10] <gogeta> v pretty safe then
[06:11] <Lake> gogeta: yeah but to restrict the user, you gotta tell the whole system to ignore it, no ?
[06:11] <Lake> gogeta: wouldnt you chmod the whole / to sandbox the user correctly ?
[06:11] <gogeta> Lake you make a group like sandbox
[06:11] <alarmo> Lake, all you would need to do is to disable that user from logging in...
[06:12] <gogeta> Lake you make the system see that that guser in that group have no rites
[06:12] <Auctionedllama> Hi guys
[06:12] <alarmo> merely setting his shell for something like /bin/false would do the trick, I think...
[06:12] <alarmo> but I'm no security expert... take my advices with a grain of salt...
[06:12] <gogeta> Lake i have no idea how to do it text only
[06:12] <Lake> gogeta: hm okay, so make user, place him in group and strip group of all rights...
[06:12] <Lake> gogeta: I will figure the shell commands out :P
[06:12] <gogeta> Lake yep
[06:12] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I finally got my ATI drivers isntalled... but I go to enable compiz and it says Compisite extension not available.. how do I fix this?
[06:12] <gogeta> Lake so its not system wide
[06:13] <gogeta> Lake only affect that user group
[06:13] <alarmo> Lake, what exactly are you trying to do now ? I got lost...
[06:13] <Lake> gogeta: once I strip his group of all rights, how do I give him just enough rights to write in his home folder (but not execute) ?
[06:13] <alarmo> :P
[06:13] <gogeta> Lake Lake yep and remove it from any other groups
[06:13] <icesword> snowdoll, hiya
[06:13] <gogeta> Lake that will sandbox only that group
[06:14] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I finally got my ATI drivers isntalled... but I go to enable compiz and it says Compisite extension not available.. how do I fix this?
[06:14] <gogeta> Lake and not the entire system
[06:14] <Lake> alarmo: strilll trying to make a user with access only to his home folder :P
[06:14] <alarmo> Lake, gave up on the FTP idea ?
[06:14] <Lake> alarmo: not quite but it's not secure and I already implemented ssh and have a ounce of experience with it
[06:14] <gogeta> alarmo no he thought he had the sandbox the entire server
[06:14] <Lake> alarmo: but I will try FTP too
[06:14] <sexcopter> i just bought a rather juicy big external harddrive, and i'm wonder, when i come round to installing hardy when it's released, is it possible to mount /home in a dedicated partition on this new hdd?
[06:15] <jrib> sexcopter: yes
[06:15] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: i had same problem. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf at bottom of xorg file you see Option Composite you change setting to 'Enable' if it isn't already
[06:15] <gogeta> alarmo making a user in a sepret group eg sandbox and sanboxing that group would work
[06:15] <Auctionedllama> Ok legend thanks mate
[06:15] <alarmo> Lake, well, about the "not secure" I'd say "not encrypted" ... but encryption for file transfer wouldn't be exactly needed...
[06:15] <ToddEDM> ok guys... can someone help me install windows, i need to make a windows partition, but HOW??
[06:15] <talcite__> hi guys. I'm having trouble with the ssh options. When would I use -L, and when would I use -R?
[06:16] <sexcopter> jrib: cool, is it fairly clear during the install how to do that? i think i recall from last time seeing that option
[06:16] <alarmo> gogeta, I don't know if you can do that... except if that works with ACL's which I never got into learning...
[06:16] <Auctionedllama> legend2440- it says that the option is on 0
[06:16] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: back up xorg.conf first just in case of problems
[06:16] <talcite__> the manpage instructions for each are identical except for remote and local. I need more information
[06:16] <Lake> alarmo, gogeta actually I might do both, why not! I will both FTP and try to make that special special user work
[06:16] <gogeta> alarmowell i knoe in the gui it was possable to do it
[06:16] <gogeta> alarmo you could change ind groups rights
[06:17] <legend2440> Auctionedllama:  mine says Option	    "Composite" "Enable"
[06:17] <jrib> sexcopter: yes, it should be clear if you use the desktop cd
[06:17] <alarmo> Usually posix access rights only define "owner, group, other" ...
[06:17] <Auctionedllama> ok.. its on 0 for me.. I'll enable it xD
[06:17] <abramson> my wifi dusnt work, suggestions on how to fix it?
[06:17] <jrib> !wifi > abramson (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:17] <alarmo> it doesn't really matter what group you are, if other is set to readable...
[06:17] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: are you using fglrx?
[06:17] <gogeta> alarmo so if ou put a user only in that group in thery anyways you would sandbox only that user amd not the system
[06:17] <Auctionedllama> yes
[06:17] <Auctionedllama> somehow
[06:17] <Auctionedllama> I got it to work
[06:17] <Auctionedllama> this was my 4th format
[06:17] <abramson> ???
[06:18] <Auctionedllama> and 5 days of working on my card
[06:18] <FloodBot3> Auctionedllama: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <Auctionedllama> and I got it to function
[06:18] <jrib> abramson: ubotu sent you a private message with relevant information
[06:18] <abramson> jrib: im new, can u explain wat u mean
[06:18] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: yes i had same problem mine is radeon 9600
[06:18] <abramson> how do i c it?
[06:18] <Lake> alarmo: can you set other to invisble ?
[06:19] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: mines a x1650 so its not supported by the open driver
[06:19] <jrib> abramson: what client are you using?
[06:19] <Auctionedllama> ok.. gonna restart
[06:19] <Auctionedllama> brb
[06:19] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: ok
[06:19] <abramson> xchat
[06:19] <jrib> abramson: then there is a tab somewhere that says "ubotu", click on it
[06:19] <msingh> ati sucks.. never buy ati again
[06:19] <alarmo> Lake, not that I know of... as far as I know, if a file has whatever rights set on "other", it doesn't matter which user or which group, it will those rights if he is not owner or in the owning group of the file
[06:19] <Lake> would anyone know where iptables keeps its logs ?
[06:20] <alarmo> and, most files would have their rights on other on a linux box...
[06:20] <abramson> no... there isnt...
[06:20] <jrib> !wifi | abramson
[06:20] <gogeta> Lake hes right other = anyone
[06:20] <jrib> abramson: ok, "ubot5" maybe...
[06:20] <Lake> gogeta: oh damn then
[06:20] <abramson> thx
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> ±.:HéLløøOø:.± i need help
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1
[06:21] <gogeta> Lake lol ftp probly gonna be wasy
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> ±.:[Í]:.± cant seem to use make
[06:21] <alarmo> Lake, you could, of course, use FTP + a non-loggable user...
[06:21] <gogeta> Lake easy
[06:21] <jrib> GH-VAIO: don't format your text like that please
[06:21] <Talcite> so what is the difference between the -R and -L options in ssh? when would I use each?
[06:21] <Lake> alarmo: whats a non-loggalbeu seR?
[06:21] <Lake> alarmo: Ill google that
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> sorrie
[06:21] <gogeta> Lake your gonna need to make system wide changes for ssh to work
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> i cant seem to use make
[06:21] <alarmo> so the user will exist, but you wouldn't be able to, say, log in a ssh shell
[06:21] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- this is the error
[06:21] <Jordan_U> GH-VAIO, What are you trying to compile?
[06:22] <GH-VAIO> psybnc
[06:22] <Lake> all right then ! FTP for the win and then some weird user account for a later try
[06:22] <alarmo> Lake, if you set a user to have it's shell to something like /bin/false it won't be able to log in to the system
[06:22] <GH-VAIO> went im in the psybnc directory
[06:22] <GH-VAIO> i cant seem to make
[06:22] <Lake> alarmo: what would the point of having such a user ?
[06:22] <alarmo> althought it should be able to log into the FTP account
[06:22] <abramson> is there 1 for internal wifi cards/
[06:22] <alarmo> set the FTP rights tightly, therefore you wouldn't have much problems from that front...
[06:23] <Talcite> alarmo: you mean sftp ... right?
[06:23] <alarmo> the guy can only log on to the FTP, and no ssh or telnet shell connection available...
[06:23] <Lake> alarmo: because FTP only wants to see a user account in ubuntu "database of users"  I guess
[06:23] <gogeta> Lake bestsetup would be 1 folder with its own sub dirs
[06:23] <misfit_246> !ntfs
[06:23] <alarmo> Talcite, not really, I was talking about FTP... why ? did I say anything wrong ? :)
[06:23] <Talcite> =P
[06:24] <Lake> ok then, FTP seems to ressemble samba like I said earlier so it shouldnt be much of a hassle..  I hope
[06:24] <zero_> hey, is there a way to access my ubuntu OS and my home network with an XP machine running in VIrtualbox?
[06:24] <gogeta> Lake ftp has something ssh desent anywas
[06:25] <gogeta> Lake file resuming
[06:25] <Lake> whats that?
[06:25] <Lake> ok
[06:25] <Lake> I guees so, yeah :D
[06:25] <GH-VAIO> hello.. any body here can help me with my issue?
[06:25] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- this is the error
[06:25] <Lake> gogeta: cool then! I am going to go do some apt-getting now
[06:25] <Auctionedllama> Hey Dude..
[06:25] <Lake> thanks gogeta  and thanks alarmo !
[06:25] <alarmo> Lake, another cool factor of FTP
[06:25] <Lake> this channel always rocks !
[06:25] <Auctionedllama> I enabled composite, and now it says it can't find compiz.. how do I install?
[06:25] <zero_> hey, is there a way to access my ubuntu OS and my home network with an XP machine running in VIrtualbox?
[06:25] <Talcite> zero_: not without a lot of work. To share files though, there's a shared folder you can enable in the VM settings
[06:25] <alarmo> you can access (for read) from pretty much every web browser...
[06:26] <zero_> Talcite, i dont mind a lot of work
[06:26] <misfit_246> can someone help me?  My ubuntu is going haywire since I installed automatix.  Permissions are messed up and some of my own files are not deletable or writable to me.  I need to back up some stuff to an external drive but it says I don't have write permissions.  It's an ntfs drive, can someone please help?
[06:26] <Talcite> zero_ then crack out google. The shared folder is much easier if all you want to do is transfer files
[06:26] <Lake> alarmo but to write, you need an app, right ?
[06:26] <zero_> Talcite, i didnt install Linux thinking it was gonna be a walk in the park
[06:26] <gogeta> misfit_246 why did you bother
[06:26] <zero_> Talcite, thanks
[06:26] <misfit_246> bother what?
[06:27] <gogeta> misfit_246 its a dead program
[06:27] <gogeta> misfit_246 ubuntu includs most everything
[06:27] <misfit_246> it was a long time ago
[06:27] <misfit_246> i didn't really notice till I wanted to upgrade to 7.10 and did  a bit of research
[06:27] <gogeta> misfit_246 well for 1 the drives ntfs
[06:27] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: using gutsy?
[06:27] <gogeta> misfit_246 if its flaged dirty it will only be read
[06:28] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: using 7.10 Studio
[06:28] <Auctionedllama> Forget what 7.10 is lol
[06:28] <misfit_246> flagged dirty?
[06:28] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: installing compiz now
[06:28] <gogeta> misfit_246 yea
[06:28] <alarmo> hey, guys... any reasons why Ubuntu doesn't have ndiswrapper (the software, not the drivers) loaded on by default ?
[06:28] <misfit_246> what's that mean?
[06:28] <gogeta> misfit_246 unclean unmount
[06:28] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: In the mean time I am going to post this on forums.. tihs took me 4 days to figure it out
[06:28] <gogeta> misfit_246 best bet is use windows and run chkdsk on it
[06:28] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: actually 5... and O ya.. 4 complete formats to start over clean
[06:29] <distortedstar> Hi all. Looking a working gedit plugin that provides vi keybindings. Ideas?
[06:29] <misfit_246> that's the problem... my windows partition got screwed up
[06:29] <gogeta> misfit_246 chkdsk driveletter: -f
[06:29] <misfit_246> can I do this in ubuntu? chkdisk?
[06:29] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: here is a link http://subresonant.com/?p=19
[06:29] <gogeta> misfit_246 kinda
[06:29] <maco> seanw: you around?
[06:29] <gogeta> misfit_246 ntfsfix
[06:30] <Jordan_U> distortedstar, Is there a feature of gedit that you need that gvim does not have?
[06:30] <misfit_246> ok
[06:30] <gogeta> misfit_246 but it might make matters worse
[06:30] <misfit_246> i don't whanna risk it
[06:30] <misfit_246> hha
[06:30] <Boohbah> Auctionedllama: it took you 5 days to do 4 complete formats to install compiz??
[06:30] <distortedstar> Jordan_U mainly the tabbed interface, and auto spell check.
[06:30] <misfit_246> but I can read the drive
[06:30] <Auctionedllama> legend2240: ok after I try reinstalling compiz, if it doesn't work I'll try this
[06:30] <Nameless_One> ok i have wireless drivers but am not sure what all to do with them
[06:30] <Nameless_One> woiuld s omeone be able to help me
[06:30] <amrcidiot> hey guys,I'm having trouble installing a toolchain.......... it says I have to install ncurses, but through "sudo apt-get install ncurses" it says the package has been stopped or whatever... I've had this problem before. So, I downloaded an rpm and used alien to make a deb.... but the problem is, it comes out with an error.... can someone help me out?
[06:30] <misfit_246> I have accesss to it but can't make folders or copy files over
[06:30] <Auctionedllama> boohbah: nono to get my ATI card working
[06:30] <Nameless_One> because the readme file is really pointless
[06:31] <Auctionedllama> boohbah: there are so many guides that don't do crap
[06:31] <gogeta> misfit_246 then pull data from it over to linux you wanna save
[06:31] <maco> PhilKC: you around?
[06:31] <Nameless_One> ok i have wireless drivers but am not sure what all to do with them
[06:31] <alarmo> distortedstar, I think GVim has them all... the tabbed iface it has, for sure, I use it daily...
[06:31] <Nameless_One> anyone able to help
[06:31] <iwkse> distortedstar: gvim has both
[06:31] <alarmo> distortedstar, as for the spell checker... I think I"ve seen a plugin for it
[06:31] <Boohbah> Auctionedllama: no there aren't
[06:31] <maco> amrcidiot: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix things
[06:32] <petezzz> Bangalore Team: anyone planning a Hardy Launch Party in Bangalore ?
[06:32] <amrcidiot> k, thanks
[06:32] <gogeta> misfit_246 you can copy past
[06:32] <Auctionedllama> boohbah: pff, I can give you like 5 links of all the pages I've been to and none of them did anything, except force me to format because there was so much crap everywhere
[06:32] <distortedstar> I just checked it out...I had no idea!
[06:32] <GH-VAIO> hello.. any body here can help me with my issue?
[06:32] <misfit_246> no see, i want to back up my files onto the external drive so I could just format my internal hd and re-install updated operating systems
[06:32] <dmsuperman> In windows, to make something so I can just type the filename and it automatically finds it, I can just add it to Path. How can I do the same thing in Ubuntu?
[06:32] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- this is the error
[06:32] <distortedstar> LOL. I'm stupid. Thanks.
[06:32] <alarmo> distortedstar, ':tabe file-name' will open the file in a new tab...
[06:32] <gogeta> misfit_246 ntfsfix the externel i guess
[06:32] <goldie> you guys are great, i'm so looking forward to the new release in the upcoming days
[06:32] <misfit_246> ok
[06:32] <Nameless_One> ok i have wireless drivers but am not sure what all to do with them
[06:32] <Nameless_One> anyone able to help
[06:32] <maco> weasel: you around?
[06:33] <misfit_246> so in terminal I just go the the external drive and type ntfsfix?
[06:33] <maco> goldie: it rocks
[06:33] <gogeta> misfit_246 well and your drive
[06:33] <goldie> ^_^ amen maco
[06:33] <Jordan_U> distortedstar, There are also vi keybindings available in emacs in case you didn't know
[06:33] <amrcidiot> maco: still comes out with this error: "﻿conflicting packages - not installing ncurses
[06:33] <amrcidiot> "
[06:33] <gogeta> misfit_246 like /dev/hdb
[06:33] <alarmo> goldie, I'm talking to you throught the new release's beta :)
[06:33] <goldie> goodbye mac and winblows forever
[06:33] <misfit_246> ok
[06:33] <_Rambaldi_> is there a system monitor, for terminal
[06:33] <gogeta> that was weard
[06:33] <magnetron> _Rambaldi_: top
[06:33] <alarmo> goldie, can say it is really cool... I just don't understand why it hasn't ndiswrapper installed by default... it would be much easier to set up...
[06:33] <distortedstar> Jordan_U, sweet. I've never tried emacs...just now getting over the vim learning curve
[06:33] <maco> distortedstar: you can use vile to get emacs bindings inside vim
[06:34] <maco> distortedstar: er, inside vi, i mean
[06:34] <_Rambaldi_> thanks magnetron
[06:34] <Nameless_One> would someone be able to help me
[06:34] <Nameless_One> cause the readme file is really poitnless
[06:34] <goldie> yea the only problems I seem to be having is with my wireless card as well, but it's old so to be expected
[06:34] <goldie> I'm sure they will sort it out
[06:34] <misfit_246> it says ntfsfix command not found
[06:34] <alarmo> distortedstar, I'd really like to learn emacs... but some switch turned inside my brain quite a long time ago... and I can't de-vim-ize it...
[06:35] <misfit_246> do I have to sudo-apt get it?
[06:35] <distortedstar> alarmo, yeah...i think it's best to just choose one. But I'm not a zealot ;)
[06:35] <gogeta>  misfit_246 do you have a windows cd
[06:35] <gogeta>  misfit_246 well i assume you do
[06:35] <Jordan_U> distortedstar, http://www.bemroses.net/images/curves.jpg :)
[06:35] <misfit_246> I have a restore cd yes
[06:35] <alarmo> distortedstar, neighter am I... I  am just incapable of learning emacs... I really think it could be better than Vim if only I could learn it :P
[06:36] <gogeta>  misfit_246 i mean a real cd
[06:36] <amrcidiot> can anyone help me?
[06:36] <misfit_246> no
[06:36] <gogeta>  misfit_246 dam
[06:36] <gogeta>  misfit_246 you can chkdisk from it
[06:36] <distortedstar> Jordan_U, lol love the emacs curve
[06:36] <alarmo> Hey, I really liked both Vi and emacs learning curves..
[06:36] <misfit_246> well, it doesn't install crapware and looks just like a regular xp cd only with a different label
[06:37] <misfit_246> so I guess it's considered an OS disk
[06:37] <Nameless_One> ok i have wireless drivers but am not sure what all to do with them
[06:37] <Nameless_One> would someone be able to help me
[06:37] <gogeta>  misfit_246 does it have a recovery console
[06:37] <littlepinkdot> How do I do a Layer 2 VPN using SSH?
[06:37] <Nameless_One> cause i have absolutely no clue as to what to do
[06:37] <misfit_246> yes
[06:37] <misfit_246> oh
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Nameless_One, What chipset is your card?
[06:37] <misfit_246> I have a bart cd
[06:37] <Nameless_One> i have thd drivers Jordan_U
[06:37] <Nameless_One> i just can't figure out the install
[06:37] <goldie> would you guys recommend running world of warcraft under wine or something different? I have it running perfectly under wine.. just wondering if I could raise the performance using any other technique?
[06:37] <misfit_246> I think it has gdisk, kind of like fdisk
[06:37] <amrcidiot> maco: still comes out with this error: "﻿conflicting packages - not installing ncurses"
[06:38] <misfit_246> probably chkdsk
[06:38] <gogeta>  misfit_246 well go into that run chkdsk /f driveletter
[06:38] <maco> amrcidiot: what's it conflicting with?
[06:38] <gogeta> to rescure your externel
[06:38] <distortedstar> This is my first time in #ubuntu and man the messages fly by!
[06:38] <Nameless_One> Jordan_U realtek rtl8187b
[06:38] <maco> goldie: nah, thats best
[06:38] <amrcidiot> it doesn't say
[06:38] <misfit_246> I don't know if this helps
[06:38] <misfit_246> but
[06:38] <maco> distortedstar: lots of people here :P
[06:38] <jon_high9000_> hi there. i am trying to install desklets on Ubuntu 7.10. i done research and found that gdeskets and adesklets were recommended. only thing was there were problems with the gdesklets and it wouldnt work. anybody else discover this as well?
[06:38] <amrcidiot> it says, "confliting packages -"
[06:38] <amrcidiot> that's it
[06:38] <maco> amrcidiot: :-/ odd...i dont know
[06:39] <alarmo> jon_high9000_, there is screenlets too... some say it is pretty nice...
[06:39] <misfit_246> my external HD is just a regular seagate SATA HD sitting on a thermaltake usb dock
[06:39] <amrcidiot> I've gotten this to work before, i just don't remember how
[06:39] <gogeta>  misfit_246 once it get flaged clean you will have read write
[06:39] <maco> jon_high9000_: screenlets > gdesklets
[06:39] <goldie> maco : Thanks ;)
[06:39] <jon_high9000_> i also am aware that are resource hogs as well
[06:39] <GH-VAIO> hello.. any body here can help me with my issue?
[06:39] <misfit_246> inside it has a folder that says "system volume information" that I couldn't delete in windows
[06:39] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- this is the error
[06:39] <misfit_246> but I was able to read/write to it from windows just fine
[06:39] <gogeta>  misfit_246 you dead or what
[06:40] <goldie> running under my old 6800 ultra.
[06:40] <GH-VAIO> n also anybody here knows how to make ur hostname able to dns
[06:40] <gogeta>  misfit_246 thats windows not linux
[06:40] <GH-VAIO> n also anybody here knows how to make ur hostname being able to dns
[06:40] <Hamled> how would one get directly access to say an ethernet port, in a manner like one has direct access to harddrive devices on /dev?
[06:40] <misfit_246> sorry I hardly use linux
[06:40] <distortedstar> Thanks everybody for the help...gotta go!
[06:40] <goldie> only use winblows for gaming under xp x64 now
[06:40] <Auctionedllama> I have to say, I love it how all the downloads on linux to get software and stuff always max out at your fastest internet speed you can get.. I like that :P
[06:40] <goldie> dont even like going online with that gaming computer :p
[06:40] <alarmo> jon_high9000_, Screenlets resource hogs ? hmmm I'll note that down... I don't use any of those, so I wouldn't know how to advise you, sorry
[06:40] <Nameless_One> so Jordan_U can you offer any help?
[06:40] <gogeta>  misfit_246 use your cd run cksdisk /f and the drive letter of your externel
[06:41] <misfit_246> no need to be rude, bro
[06:41] <GH-VAIO> n also anybody here knows how to make ur hostname being able to resolve
[06:41] <amrcidiot> alright, well, thanks for your time guys, I hope I can get this to work
[06:41] <misfit_246> ok
[06:41] <misfit_246> thank you
[06:41] <maco> jon_high9000_: really? looking at top, 13MB for one of mine...is that considered heavy?
[06:41] <gogeta>  misfit_246 linux should then give you use of that drive
[06:41] <alarmo> GH-VAIO, what hostname ? machine local hostname ?
[06:41] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: buy a domain name...
[06:41] <GH-VAIO> yeah machine local hostname
[06:41] <alarmo> GH-VAIO, you want to resolve it to good old 127.0.0.1 ?
[06:42] <maco> jon_high9000_: i dont think its heavy considering if you can handle compiz (which you need for any widgety thing because they all take compositing) you can handle 13MB
[06:42] <Tronic_> I would like to install Hardy Heron from Gentoo. How should I proceed?
[06:42] <Tronic_> I don't have a CD drive.
[06:42] <maco> Tronic_: can you boot from USB?
[06:42] <Tronic_> maco: Yes.
[06:42] <GH-VAIO> dont eg my machine name is vaio.gh-solutions.org <-- i want it to be resolve.
 unknown. sorry i am a noobie.
[06:42] <goldie> oh just in passing.. and I doubt anyone could help me with this.. could some on Demonoid happen to be able to send me an invite?
[06:43] <GH-VAIO> how do i do that
[06:43] <jrib> !offtopic | goldie
[06:43] <goldie> lol
[06:43] <Sersi> invites are closed afaik
[06:43] <goldie> sry ><
[06:43] <Nameless_One> so is there anyone that knows how to isntall drivers?
[06:43] <legend2440> Nameless_One: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/realtek-rtl8187b-working-in-ubuntu-710-using-ndiswrapper/
[06:43] <maco> Tronic_: once it's released, try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#head-85ca6ab2be8e51e7aeaeba1226031a640d7a7507
[06:43] <jrib> Nameless_One: you need to be more specific
[06:43] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: ask whomever controls the NS record for gh-solutions.org to add that domain
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Nameless_One, I have no experience with realtek cards or with ndiswrapper, I do have experience compiling drivers from source so if nobody else can help I can try but it's probably better to wait
[06:44] <Nameless_One> jrib
[06:44] <alarmo> GH-VAIO, and that would only work if your IP is static, I think...
[06:44] <Hamled> Is there some sort of equivalent of /dev/eth0? (Where I can read/write data directly to the ethernet card/chip?)
[06:44] <Nameless_One> i have the drivers for realtek rtl8187b
[06:44] <Nameless_One> and they are downloaded
[06:44] <maco> i have the same level of exp as Jordan_U
[06:44] <goldie> jrib: um I need access to demonoid to get specif drivers for my wireless card, only this torrent site has them
[06:44] <legend2440> Nameless_One: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/realtek-rtl8187b-working-in-ubuntu-710-using-ndiswrapper/
[06:44] <Nameless_One> my real problem is i'm not able to install them
[06:44] <Nameless_One> i can't figure out how
[06:44] <jrib> goldie: please...
[06:44] <_Rambaldi_> i thing what GH-VAIO mean is, he want to know how to have hostnames resolve to ip address on a local network.
[06:44] <Nameless_One> legend2440 i looked at that
[06:44] <maco> Hamled: er....it *is* possible to cat data to a device
[06:44] <littlepinkdot> Has OpenSSH VPN support been implemented on W32 yet?
[06:44] <Boohbah> alarmo: it is possible for a dhcp server to dynamically update dns records
[06:44] <jrib> Nameless_One: have you looked up your card on the !wifi wiki page?
[06:45] <maco> Hamled: if you cat a file to /dev/dsp (i think?) it'll go through your speakers
[06:45] <GH-VAIO> yeah thats right
[06:45] <Hamled> I was looking specifically for network controllers
[06:45] <GH-VAIO> _Rambaldi_ yeah u r right, thats wat i mean
[06:45] <alarmo> Boohbah, well, yes... but then you'd have to check that with the dhcp server... I thought he was trying to configure his machine for it... I Guess I misunderstood :)
[06:45] <Hamled> like, if there was a /dev/eth0, but they don't work like that, so is there some pseudofile I can access that will read from the network controller directly?
[06:45] <Boohbah> !hosts
[06:45] <Nameless_One> jrib i have the right drivers
[06:46] <_Rambaldi_> i have open wondered how to do that, it annoyed my always typing ip address but so far no idea how to do it
[06:46] <jrib> !wifi | Nameless_One
[06:46] <maco> Hamled: that device should do it, i think
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Tronic_, Do you know what the toram kernel parameter does and does your kernel support it?
[06:46] <goldie> on topic now ^_^?
[06:46] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: edit /etc/hosts
[06:46] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: you can add a stsic mapping there that only works locally
[06:46] <jrib> goldie: no
[06:46] <Hamled> maco, I thought /dev/eth0 didn't exist? (A page I read explained it that the network interfaces are created in software and thus don't have actual device files)
[06:46] <GH-VAIO> wast the command?
[06:47] <alarmo> Hmmm speaking of RTL8187... does anyone know how to differentiate between a RTL8187 B and a RTL8187 L ?
[06:47] <littlepinkdot> Has OpenSSH VPN support been implemented on W32 yet?
[06:47] <_Rambaldi_> its a file GH-VAIO add the computer to it
[06:47] <amrcidiot> maco: it says that the ncurses-bin conflicts with ncurses
[06:47] <goldie> jrib :) sry okay
[06:47] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[06:47] <maco> Hamled: oh. youre right.  sorry
[06:47] <GH-VAIO> (Uptime) for vaio.gh-solutions.org (Linux 2.6.22-14-generic): 13:47:00 up 7:50, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.02 <-- i want to make that being able to dns
[06:47] <GH-VAIO> so its that how
[06:47] <GH-VAIO> ±.:[Í]:.± do it
[06:47] <_Rambaldi_> !gksu | Boohbah
[06:47] <gogeta> littlepinkdot i dunno ask in windows
[06:47] <maco> amrcidiot: oh...ok. i dont know...
[06:47] <GH-VAIO> sudo gedit /etc/hosts <- so this is the command?
[06:48] <maco> GH-VAIO: gksudo
[06:48] <Tronic_> maco: Thanks :)
[06:48] <Boohbah> gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[06:48] <maco> GH-VAIO: gksudo is for graphical apps
[06:48] <Hamled> I'm not sure why I'm trying so hard to figure this out, someone just wanted to know how to do cat /dev/eth0 > /dev/dsp for humorous purposes
[06:48] <maco> haha to make it sound like dialup?
[06:48] <Boohbah> Hamled: /dev/mem is a good one too
[06:48] <amrcidiot> anybody know
[06:48] <Tronic_> Jordan_U: Never heard of it, but sounds like a initrd parameter rather than something used by the kernel itself.
[06:48] <_Rambaldi_> GH-VAIO, have you got it working?
[06:48] <GH-VAIO> working on it
[06:48] <amrcidiot> ncurses-bin conflicts with ncurses, so ncurses cannot be installed....
[06:48] <Boohbah> amrcidiot: did you uninstall ncurses-bin?
[06:48] <gogeta> Hamled lol
[06:48] <Tronic_> Jordan_U: I don't use any initrd, so...
[06:49] <gogeta> Hamled i wanna try that
 I have an NVidia GForce graphics card. if i try to place it at top setting it tends to slow down.
[06:49] <GH-VAIO> ghs@vaio:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[06:49] <GH-VAIO> sudo: gedit: command not found
[06:49] <maco> Tronic_: you dont use initrd? O_O
[06:49] <Hamled> I don't know what the real world linux equivalent of /dev/eth0 is :(
[06:49] <Flannel> GH-VAIO: Are you using Kubuntu?
[06:49] <GH-VAIO> yeap
[06:49] <amrcidiot> Boohbah: I can't.... well I can, but so many other packages will be removed such as Firefox and about 100 others than I don't want gone.... :(
[06:49] <Flannel> GH-VAIO: kdesu kate /etc/hosts
[06:49] <amrcidiot> I'm so lost
[06:49] <maco> jon_high9000_: and so i avoid anything that uses closed source drivers because i trust the open ones to be of higher quality.  all intel for me
 fast setting that is...
[06:49] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: kdesudo kate /etc/hosts
[06:50] <Hamled> kde has its own sudo?
[06:50] <Tronic_> maco: No. I have all the drivers that are needed for booting built into the kernel. Doing without initrd allows faster booting.
[06:50] <Boohbah> Hamled: sure does
[06:50] <Flannel> Hamled: Just like gnome does
[06:50] <maco> Tronic_: crazy
[06:50] <gogeta> Hamled acully it wouldent sound like dialup the sine wavs are a mutch higher finquecy you probly would hear mutch
[06:50] <_Rambaldi_> GH-VAIO, edit a file called hots in etc, easy is sudo nano /etc/hosts
[06:50] <gogeta> wouldent
[06:50] <Hamled> gogeta, yeah
[06:50] <GH-VAIO> ghs@vaio:~$ kdesu kate /etc/hosts
[06:50] <GH-VAIO> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[06:50] <Hamled> useful for debugging though
[06:50] <Hamled> Flannel, good point. Although since this is on the commandline, couldn't you use regular sudo for either kde or gnome?
[06:50] <GH-VAIO> can i use pico instead of nano?
[06:51] <_Rambaldi_> offcourse any editor you have
[06:51] <Boohbah> Hamled: you could
[06:51] <Flannel> GH-VAIO: pico doesn't exist in Ubuntu, its nano.
[06:51] <_Rambaldi_> maybe he likes pico
[06:51] <amrcidiot> Boohbah: I can't.... well I can, but so many other packages will be removed such as Firefox and about 100 others than I don't want gone.... :(
[06:51] <GH-VAIO> ermm, i able to ue pico
[06:51] <GH-VAIO> in mind
[06:51] <GH-VAIO> thats strange
[06:51] <GH-VAIO> lolz
[06:51] <FloodBot1> GH-VAIO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <jrib> GH-VAIO: pico is a symlink to nano...
[06:51] <Flannel> GH-VAIO: No, pico just runs nano.
[06:51] <Hamled> ok, was just wondering about the use of kdesudo, I assumed that like gnome's sudo variant, it was mainly for elevating priveleges within a GUI environment
[06:52] <Flannel> Hamled: Its not an invocation specific thing, its a program thing.  kdesu/gksu set up the environment better for graphical apps than sudo itself does.
[06:52] <alarmo> Hey ... nice..
[06:52] <ubobo> I want to choose someone better terminal character,but I don't know which one is better,who can recommend me one?
 im running a AMD64 bit 1 gig Mhz Athlon
[06:52] <GH-VAIO> okie guys im in
[06:52] <alarmo> piping /dev/random to /dev/dsp gives some smooth noise...
[06:52] <GH-VAIO> so wat do i need to edit?
[06:52] <gogeta> Hamled acully i have heard it befor in rl it sounds like dailing a phone at 1,000x speed unlike a dialup that sounds like static and sine sounds
[06:52] <Boohbah> Hamled: actually, it seems that just using sudo will not take into account the privileges of some files
[06:52] <Hamled> Flannel, like having the password dialog pop open and such
[06:52] <Flannel> Hamled: no, thats completely superficial
[06:52] <Hamled> ah
[06:52] <_Rambaldi_> add the ip and hostname to the list GH-VAIO
[06:52] <On3> on ubuntu-server how would i set it up so it forwards any traffic from one interface to another (so pretty much ubuntu-server) is just acting as a network bridge?
[06:52] <Hamled> that is interesting
[06:52] <GH-VAIO> _Rambaldi_ the ip n hostname
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> its aready there
[06:53] <alarmo> I mean, /dev/urandom
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:53] <FloodBot1> GH-VAIO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <GH-VAIO> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[06:53] <Hamled> why wouldn't it take into account some files, or rather in what way I guess?
[06:53] <_Rambaldi_> thats your own computer, add the other computers on your network to the list GH-VAIO
[06:54] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: is gh-solutions.org in there??
[06:54] <GH-VAIO> (01:53:21pm) <GH-VAIO> 116.15.18.27    vaio.gh-solutions.org <-
[06:54] <wolfwalker> I do hate to sound like I'm disparaging gnomebaker and k3b, but........ they are both S.L.O.W. at burning audio cds.  Is there anything faster?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Tronic_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[06:54] <GH-VAIO> ±.:[Í]:.± want vaio.gh-solutions.org to be able to dns
[06:54] <Olgem> wolfwalker, you could use their command-line backends?
[06:54] <GH-VAIO> ±.:[Ñ]Ø†:.± gh-solutions.org
[06:55] <GH-VAIO> i want vaio.gh-solutions.org to be able to dns
[06:55] <wolfwalker> Olgem this computer is going to a person who doesn't even use GUI very well.
[06:55] <GH-VAIO> not gh-solutions.org
[06:55] <Jordan_U> GH-VAIO, Please stick to lower ascii ;)
[06:55] <Hamled> that is a very odd script
[06:55] <wolfwalker> I dare not give him command-lines.
[06:55] <Olgem> wolfwalker, is it slow in response time, or to actually burn the cd. I dont think the latter can be helped.
[06:55] <Boohbah> GH-VAIO: if you want other computers to query vaio for name resolution you'll have to install a real dns server
[06:55] <hischild> I've got a fresh install of gutsy and i've just installed all the updates and enabled restricted drivers. Whenever i try to start firefox i get Bus error (core dumped) and it doesn't start.
[06:56] <wolfwalker> Slow to translate the ogg to cd audio
[06:56] <_Rambaldi_> does vaio.gh-solutions.org have a static ip? GH-VAIO
[06:56] <wolfwalker> Once it gets the buffer filled it flies.
[06:56] <GH-VAIO> nope
[06:56] <GH-VAIO> it does
[06:56] <gogeta> wolfwalker buy a faster pc ;-)
[06:56] <Boohbah> wolfwalker: ogg more complex than mp3
[06:56] <wolfwalker> How do you burn mp3?  k3b won't read it, it says.
[06:56] <wolfwalker> Or was that gnomebaker wouldn't read it........
[06:56] <_Rambaldi_> then add the host and that ip to the stop part of the hosts file GH-VAIO
[06:56] <Olgem> wolfwalker, transcoding between media codecs can be slow
[06:56] <Boohbah> wolfwalker: do you have lame installed?
[06:57] <_Rambaldi_> i mean top part GH-VAIO
[06:57] <wolfwalker> Apparently I do.  Gstreamer will play mp3 files.
[06:57] <geektern> Can anyone help me out, I am installing Vmware-server and it is saying i am missing libXtst.so.6 but i cant seem to find any way to get this lib. plz help
[06:57] <GH-VAIO> nope it does not
[06:58] <_Rambaldi_> now I am not quiet sure what you wanted to do in the first place GH-VAIO
[06:58] <wolfwalker> How would I install what where?
[06:58] <wolfwalker> Just open synaptic and search for lame?
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]S=NPScNfS^N_S8NAP}OB
[06:58] <maco> wolfwalker: gnomebaker can do mp3 -> cd
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]MGQ8NpS;N<SCLlP[NXPtNYPG
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]S,NkSDNNTDJ`RA
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]Q@O?S^IcRNNGQ-NyS&
[06:58] <wolfwalker> It said it couldn't.
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]Q'M+SvNLPTNoPgN^T`LZ
[06:58] <Olgem> Ummmmm
[06:58] <FloodBot1> mypapit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <mypapit> de=g(`(%t,cw=Z]FXSLNVPcO!S@O-Q'
[06:58] <maco> wolfwalker: dpkg -l *lame*
[06:58] <alarmo> Hey... ok, I got dragged into the idea of redircting things to dsp.... have anyone tried listening to their hard drivers ? it is hardware intensive, but gives some nice noises from time to time...
[06:58] <lavarock> what's the best irc client?
[06:58] <wolfwalker> Hmmmm.......
[06:59] <wolfwalker> Thanks, will try
[06:59] <Olgem> lavarock, epic5
[06:59] <maco> lavarock: gui or terminal?
[06:59] <gogeta> alarmo lol
[06:59] <gogeta> alarmowanna anny people
[06:59] <lavarock> something that support file xfer well
[06:59] <nickrud> alarmo that is very alarming ;)
[06:59] <mintsoup> Is there some way to set the default monitor brightness in Ubuntu?  I can't seem to find an option anywhere.
[06:59] <alarmo> hahaha
[06:59] <gogeta> alarmo wanna annoy people redrec a dial modem
[06:59] <Olgem> lavarock, like xdcc for file sharing networks?
[06:59] <lavarock> maco, gui preferable:-)
[06:59] <maco> lavarock: xchat?
[06:59] <hischild> I've got a fresh install of gutsy and i've just installed all the updates and enabled restricted drivers. Whenever i try to start firefox i get Bus error (core dumped) and it doesn't start.
[06:59] <gogeta> alarmo and turn it up
[06:59] <neil_d> Hi, I am setting up a LTSP system, I was wondering when you attach a printer to each client.  Do all the printers appear in the print dialogs when trying to print from a client ?
[06:59] <arcanistherogue> uh Ubuntu froze when I was upgrading to hardy
[06:59] <arcanistherogue> what should I do ;_;
[06:59] <lavarock> Olgem, yes, xdcc fserv etc
[06:59] <Flannel> arcanistherogue: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[06:59] <arcanistherogue> oh ok
[07:00] <alarmo> gogeta, actually first thing I tried was /dev/random... but it just looks like I don't generate enough entropy to make any sound...
[07:00] <hischild> alarmo, try /dev/urandom which doesn't need entropy
[07:00] <gogeta> /dev/modem
[07:00] <Olgem> lavarock, I hear xchat is the most popular so its bound to have some extensions/scripts to do it if not natively
[07:00] <gogeta> and dialup
[07:00] <gogeta> lol
[07:00] <alarmo> hischild, I did it.... but it only generates a white noise
[07:00] <lavarock> Olgem, ok i am using xchat, will try it out some more then:-)
[07:01] <alarmo> it is odd to redirect /dev/psaux to sound too...
[07:01] <Olgem> Don't just try it out, google for some scripts that can do fserv/xdcc, lavarock
[07:01] <alarmo> it buffers a lot of mouse movements.. then discharge them all in a loud beep!
[07:01] <american> i just started katapult so it's running in the background, but i didn't catch the button combo to open it up
[07:01] <Boohbah> alarmo: try /dev/urandom
[07:01] <american> anyone know what it is?
[07:01] <gogeta> alarmo lol
[07:01] <alarmo> Boohbah,  I did it... but it's only white noise....
[07:02] <lavarock> Olgem, Ok, I am very new to xchat
[07:02] <gogeta> alarmo pretty cool to listion it my modem
[07:02] <alarmo> but I don't have am odem :(
[07:02] <gogeta> alarmom alot of diffrent sounds
[07:02] <gogeta> alarmo lol everytime my dl slows down i hear it resync
[07:03] <alarmo> hahahaha
[07:03] <gogeta> alarmo hisssssss zzzzzzzzzzzt
[07:04] <ajesh> i am a new ubuntu user
[07:05] <gogeta> alarmo try cating your videocard lol
[07:05] <alarmo> gogeta, I am trying to find it for a good 15 minutes already
[07:05] <_Rambaldi_> hello ajesh
[07:05] <cyborg_> ajes welcom in ubuntusers
[07:05] <hischild> After i've installed all the updates and enabled restricted drivers, some programs appear to crash out of the blue. A reinstall fixes it, but to reinstall all the programs seems rather annoying.
[07:05] <wolfwalker> ajesh you come to Ubuntu at a very good time.  ubuntu mostly runs itself these days.
[07:05] <ajesh> can u help me to play mp3 in this os
[07:06] <gogeta> alarmo well you dont have a dial modem to play with
[07:06] <alarmo> but the HD is really nice...
[07:06] <alarmo> :P
[07:06] <cyborg_> no sorry .....
[07:06] <cyborg_> :D
[07:06] <Olgem> Is there any way (maybe an easy front-end to iptables) to split/forward/bridge any interface to another, to have say a two-pc daisy chain to a gateway. I'm not sure if I can do this without setting up NAT.
[07:06] <hischild> Olgem, take a look at firestarter
[07:07] <Olgem> Ok
[07:07] <gogeta> ajesh sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:07] <alarmo> ajesh, try this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:08] <_Rambaldi_> usually you try to play it and it will search and download codecs ajesh, what program are you using
[07:08] <cvd-pr> How to start xchat minimized?
[07:08] <alarmo> Gee.. IRC can kill.... :P I swear I was programming and quite happy about it 2 hours ago....
[07:09] <hischild> alarmo, gogeta, please take the discussion about this to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:09] <ajesh> rythm box
[07:09] <_Rambaldi_> for beginners have a read through http://strabes.wordpress.com/useful-links-for-ubuntu-beginners/ ajesh
[07:09] <gogeta> alarmo they started the what kind of annoying sounds can we make linux make
[07:09] <cyborg_> iff you have proble m with mp3 files , take a look at some www forum wiki ... type documents ajesh
[07:09] <cyborg_> szerintem
[07:10] <hischild> cyborg_, there's no need to point at external information. Even more when this information isn't there.
[07:10] <ajesh> cyborg_ ........... u u from?
[07:10] <Flannel> !mp3 | ajesh
[07:10] <alarmo> ajesh, did the link I send helped ?
[07:10] <cyborg_> hun
[07:11] <cyborg_> little speak enliss
[07:11] <cvd-pr> Hola
[07:11] <tawt> how do i make my mouse looks like a macs?
[07:11] <ajesh> trying.....
[07:11] <cvd-pr> tawt, mouse pointer?
[07:11] <alarmo> well, I'm gonna sleep... 3:11 AM here...
[07:12] <ompaul> I am about to remove a large series of bans
[07:12] <tawt> cvd-pr:  yes  sorry
[07:12] <hischild> !traffic
[07:12] <ompaul> this is going to cause scrolling please bear with us thanks
[07:12] <wolfwalker> Weeeee!
[07:12] <gogeta> tawt buy a apple mouse
[07:12] <hischild> !language | gogeta
[07:12] <gogeta> LOL
[07:13] <icesword> hoho
[07:13] <wolfwalker> Speaking as an op, that's fast removal........
[07:13] <ompaul> done
[07:13] <gogeta> thasts his name
[07:13] <ompaul> finished
[07:13] <ompaul> wolfwalker, all planned };->
[07:13] <alarmo> Woah... if the guy is like that taking off bans... I sure don't want to see him setting them UP :P
[07:13] <fjfalcon1> hello all, ubuntu 8.04 will be released at 12 pm gmt?
[07:13] <lavarock> 测试
[07:13] <wolfwalker> Setting them up is easy.  We have this handy popup.  Just click on the nick and hit the popup. :D
[07:14] <ompaul> !cn | lavarock
[07:14] <icesword> !cn | lavarock
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> fjfalcon1, probably not, does it really matter?
[07:14] <Auctionedllama> Hey, all, got a quick question.. I installed compiz and all that jazz, but when I go to enable desktop effects, it loads for a few seconds and then says "cannot apply desktop effects"
[07:14] <alarmo> wolfwalker, but this guy is a mass-unban weapon :P
[07:14] <Auctionedllama> and thats the error message.. any fix?
[07:14] <Auctionedllama> and my drivers are fully working
[07:14] <cvd-pr> tawt, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOSX+PantherX+Mouse+Theme%5BFor+Baghira%5D?content=13524?
[07:14] <ompaul> !ot
[07:14] <lavarock> nice it works:-)
[07:14] <icesword> lavarock, how do you input chinese
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> still looking for a quick way to re-wrap a text file
[07:14] <tawt> cvd-pr:  thanks
[07:14] <lavarock> good old scim
[07:14] <icesword> hmm
[07:15] <icesword> lavarock, test?
[07:15] <lavarock> but it kinda sucks sometimes
[07:15] <wolfwalker> Daisuke_Ido,  I'd say open it in OpenOffice and save it as some other type of file.........
[07:15] <hischild> After i've installed all the updates and enabled restricted drivers, some programs appear to crash out of the blue. A reinstall fixes it, but to reinstall all the programs seems rather annoying.
[07:15] <lavarock> ya what i typed just now means test
[07:15] <alarmo> Well, good night/day to all you guys...
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> wolfwalker, like?
[07:15] <alarmo> I'm reading something and then sleeping...
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i need it as a *text* file
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> not another format.
[07:15] <lavarock> seems xchat support them fine
[07:15] <wolfwalker> It won't save as .txt?
[07:15] <wolfwalker> My OpenOffice will save as .txt
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> it's already .txt
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to re-wrap the file
[07:16]  * wolfwalker realizes he doesn't quite understand the problem and shuts his pie hole
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> as in, now it's wrapped at about 80 characters, i need it wrapped at about 45
[07:17] <icesword> lavarock, are you a chinese
[07:17] <hischild> Daisuke_Ido, cat it to a terminal of 45 wide and copy paste?
[07:17] <Daemonus> how can i put the volume up for my microphone?
[07:17] <chelz> is there a device file on the system somewhere for network hardware like there is with things like the screen in /dev ?
[07:17] <crampan> hello , how can i downgrade theversion python i have from 2.5 to 2.4 please #/
[07:17] <chelz> Daemonus: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[07:18] <lavarock> icesword, yes
[07:18] <icesword> hmm
[07:19] <chelz> crampan: in synaptic, right click on a package, go to properties, and go to the version tab
[07:19] <Daemonus> chelz: it only checks the sound but no volume
[07:19] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: wht errors you get if you type compiz in terminal?
[07:20] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: lemme check
[07:20] <Auctionedllama> .: 3: Can't open /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu
[07:20] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: there it is ".: 3: Can't open /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu"
[07:21] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: you install compiz manager?
[07:21] <chelz> Daemonus: right click on a panel and add the volume control, doubleclick on it
[07:21] <Auctionedllama> mmh
[07:21] <Auctionedllama> no..
[07:21] <Daemonus> ahhhh
[07:21] <Auctionedllama> How do I get that?
[07:21] <Daemonus> cheers man
[07:21] <gRaCiOsO> excuse me i have a question i have shared my internet conection with a wireless linksys router and i have enabled the wpa encryption but when i try to conect from ubuntu and it ask for the password there are only wep options not wpa like in my router so i had to changed the router config to wep but i would like to have wpa its easier somebody could help me with that??
[07:22] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: in synaptic is this installed?  compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:22] <Auctionedllama> lemme check
[07:22] <magnetron> gRaCiOsO: do you know if your wireless network card supports WPA in linux? some cards work better with WPA then WPA2 too, you may try both settings
[07:23] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ya its installed mate
[07:23] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: should I erase all compiz files and restart it?
[07:23] <leo_rockw> greetings #ubuntu
[07:23] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: I mean delete all compiz files and reinstall it
[07:24] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: go to /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu and check permissions
[07:24] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: k one sec
[07:24] <gRaCiOsO> magnetron,  well i downloaded the linux driver and installed it and in manual card's config appears the wpa option but i try with that and it get associated with the router but it dosnt give ip address
[07:25] <gRaCiOsO> or dont get conected
[07:25] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: are you using network-manager or just the network properties dialog?
[07:25] <leo_rockw> !info | gnash
[07:25] <neil_d> Hi, I am setting up a LTSP system, I was wondering when you attach a printer to each client.  Do all the printers appear in the print dialogs when trying to print from a client ?
[07:25] <gRaCiOsO> aequanim,  i tried both
[07:25] <hischild> !info gnash | leo_rockw
[07:25] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: network-manager should have a WPA option
[07:25] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: says I need to be root to edit it, but it says its already been checked
[07:25] <leo_rockw> hischild: thanks
[07:26] <hischild> leo_rockw, you're welcome
[07:26] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: yea mine is root too so thats not it
[07:26] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: there are 2 files in there.. "compiz-manager" and "compiz-manager.ubuntu.dpkg-new"
[07:26] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: do you have that?
[07:26] <gRaCiOsO> aequanim,  is network-manager that menu appears automatic when it is trying to connect to the wireless network??
[07:26] <leo_rockw> does anybody happen to know if gnash comes installed by default in ubuntu hardy?
[07:26] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: mine has only file compiz-manager.ubuntu in there
[07:27] <hischild> leo_rockw, no it does not. You have to install it yourself.
[07:27] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: I'll try erasing the other one
[07:27] <leo_rockw> hischild: thanks again
[07:27] <hischild> leo_rockw, and you're still welcome
[07:27] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ok wait, I'm-a just doa  fresh compiz install
[07:27] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: brb, I'll tell you how it goes
[07:27] <legend2440> Auctionedllama:  ok
[07:28] <gRaCiOsO> aequanim,  ??
[07:28] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: it's the thing in your notification area - like two small blue circles with a green whirling pattern, then a blue bar chart
[07:28] <gRaCiOsO> aequanim,  it only have wep options an LEAP option
[07:29] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: what wireless card are you using?
[07:29] <gRaCiOsO> just a realtek
[07:30] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: you'll have to search ubuntuforums.org etc to see if that card supports it, has problems, or requires special config
[07:30] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: i can't really help, i'm afraid
[07:31] <gRaCiOsO> aequanim,  well thanks for all men i cant work now with wep for the moment i will look later really thanks
[07:31] <gRaCiOsO> i can
[07:32] <aequanim> gRaCiOsO: cool - good luck
[07:35] <chris062689> Hello.
[07:36] <chris062689> Anyone.. here?
[07:37] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: Hey, it didn't work
[07:37] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: same thing
[07:37] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703130
[07:38] <MrGozInYah> weeee
[07:38] <MrGozInYah> uhhh
[07:39] <MrGozInYah> how do i import settings from another user into this user account?
[07:39] <MrGozInYah> mainly my firefox and xchat/filezilla info
[07:42] <lavarock> Hi, anyone can tell me if there is a quick way to make Xchat looks more like say sysreset?
[07:42] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ok, I run compiz now and it says I need XGL.. how do I install that mate?
[07:44] <Auctionedllama> Hey, anyone know how to install XGL mates?
[07:44] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: do you see this in synaptic? xserver-xgl
[07:44] <Auctionedllama> leme check
[07:44] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: its uninstalled
[07:44] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: should I install it/
[07:45] <Stonekeeper> hi. can anyone recommend an installer program? I want something like NSIS, where i can include loads of programs and can run shell scripts etc... thanks.
[07:45] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: yes you can always uninstall if it doesn't help
[07:45] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ok brb, might need to restart
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a sad day
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i found a program to reformat my text files
[07:46] <Daisuke_Ido> but i have to run it in wine
[07:46] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: brb restart
[07:49] <buzzsaw> good evening
[07:49] <Tweaker> does anybody no how to get this to work? http://www.freemmorpgmaker.com/ee.php
[07:50] <Tweaker> Ideas?Help?
[07:50] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: hey, it made everything sluggish, but when I run compiz in terminal, the only error is :"/usr/bin/compiz: 378: /usr/local/bin/compiz: not found
[07:50] <Auctionedllama> "
[07:50] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: so now what?
[07:52] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: try this gksudo gedit /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu
[07:52] <UbuntuFanatic> Seriously, no one knows how to get it to work?
[07:53] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: Its blank.. but the error I got.. its looking for files, and I went to those folders, and they're empty so..
[07:53] <UbuntuFanatic> I get a few errors I get when I try to load the server, why is that? Its an Active X error
[07:53] <american> i just installed JRE v. 6 but i want to go back down to v. 5
[07:54] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: can you check if its there at all by browsing to it. its probalby missing
[07:54] <american> how do i delete the JRE v. 6 tha ti just installed?
[07:54] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: I checked the other file next to the compiz manager and it has stuff pointing to that
[07:54] <samorpheus> hi
[07:54] <samorpheus> i need a help.
[07:54] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: I'll just change it to the right directory
[07:54] <Auctionedllama> samorpheus: who doesn't xD
[07:54] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: ok
[07:54] <samorpheus> i can't install nvidia 6100 graphics card:(
[07:55] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i'm tired of waiting for an official 1.4.9.1 amarok for gutsy, i'm rolling my own.
[07:55] <legend2440> !paste
[07:55] <samorpheus> hey ?
[07:56] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: where do all the plugin files go etc? where are all the compiz main files install to I mean
[07:56] <samorpheus> Auctionedllama
[07:56] <american> how do i uninstall java?
[07:57] <Auctionedllama> samorpheus: yes?
[07:57] <arti4-92> linux suxx
[07:57] <arti4-92> linux suxx
[07:57] <arti4-92> linux suxx
[07:57] <FloodBot1> arti4-92: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <amenado> american-> man update-alternatives
[07:57] <samorpheus> Auctionedllama i have got a problem in
[07:57] <samorpheus> terminal console;
[07:57] <samorpheus> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run
[07:57] <FloodBot1> arti4-92: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <samorpheus> my error : about of x server install.
[07:57] <UbuntuFanatic> arti4-92 your a cunt
[07:57] <Auctionedllama> samorpheus: sorry I am not the person to ask, I knwo nothing about Nvidia drivers.. I specialize in ATI.. sorry man
[07:58] <samorpheus> :(
[07:58] <UbuntuFanatic> So how do I get Eclipse to work?
[07:58] <samorpheus> thanks
[07:58] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: if you open synaptic and hilite compiz do you have tab on bottom called 'Installed Files" that shows where all files for compiz are
[07:58] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ok swcheet
[07:59] <legend2440> pastebin not loading?
[07:59] <legend2440> in firefox?
[07:59] <Drunk> Seriously no body knows how to run Eclipse?
[07:59] <RenaKunisaki> ok so
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Drunk, depends, how did you install it?
[07:59] <RenaKunisaki> I installed a GeForce 6200 AGP
[07:59] <Drunk> It dosent really install, you just download it, load up the server and run the client
[08:00] <Drunk> http://www.freemmorpgmaker.com/ee.php
[08:00] <RenaKunisaki> it booted up in "low graphics mode" with the Vesa driver
[08:00] <RenaKunisaki> I selected the Nvidia driver and rebooted
[08:00] <Auctionedllama> legend4220: wait, where is it?
[08:00] <arvind_khadri> Drunk, use sudo apt-get install eclipse
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> arvind_khadri, that's what i thought too
[08:00] <RenaKunisaki> now it boots up to a screen full of garbage
[08:00] <Drunk> Its a windows MMO creator tho :(
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a completely different eclipse
[08:00] <arvind_khadri> !enter | RenaKunisaki
[08:01] <RenaKunisaki> and if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 I get a different screen full of garbage
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Drunk, *AT BEST* you'll be able to run it with wine
[08:01] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: you have to enable it wait one let me check its been a while since i enabled that
[08:01] <Auctionedllama> kk
[08:01] <arvind_khadri> Daisuke_Ido, AFAIK eclipse is java IDE or something right??
[08:01] <Drunk> I get errors for some reason, says something about not being able to load the server and something about active X
[08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that's always bugged me about compiles...  no eta on completion
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> at least it's just amarok
[08:02] <Drunk> ?
[08:02] <Daisuke_Ido> and not, say, all of kde
[08:02] <RenaKunisaki> so does the nvidia driver not work?
[08:02] <samorpheus> how i install nvidia graphics card driver..
[08:02] <samorpheus> i am newbie usr :(
[08:02] <Firestorm> Hey ya
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> Drunk, then you may have problems
[08:03] <buzzsaw> i installed apache with LAMP   but i am not quite sure were the config files are
[08:03] <arvind_khadri> samorpheus, go to System->Administration->Restricted drivers
[08:03] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: ok in synaptic go to settings>preferences>General Tab then check box that says show package properties in main window
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> activex is a creation that should never have existed and that i cannot believe is still supported
[08:03] <Drunk> Hmm how could I fix these
[08:03] <Firestorm> I'm New Here? any warm Welcome?
[08:03] <Drunk> problems*?
[08:03] <arvind_khadri> Drunk, eclispe is a java IDE right??
[08:03] <Drunk> Im not really sure, but Im bet so
[08:03] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: k thanks mate
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> arvind_khadri, not in this case, it's a windows MMO scripting engine
[08:04] <Firestorm> Anyone here?
[08:04] <arvind_khadri> Daisuke_Ido, hmm let me google
[08:04] <zero_> hey, on my other laptop, i have sound, but the media players
[08:04] <zero_> dont
[08:04] <samorpheus> arvind_khadri it's checked
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> arvind_khadri, http://www.freemmorpgmaker.com/ee.php
[08:04] <arvind_khadri> !ask | Firestorm
[08:04] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: brb gotta login as root
[08:04] <Daisuke_Ido> save you some google-time
[08:04] <samorpheus> but is status name : not in use ?
[08:04] <samorpheus> arvind_khadri
[08:04] <arvind_khadri> Daisuke_Ido, :) i wanted to know whats mmo
[08:05] <Firestorm> Thx Arvind
[08:05] <RenaKunisaki> let's try this again
[08:05] <luderacer> hi all
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Auctionedllama, NO.  you never have to log in as root...  that's just...  *shudders*
[08:05] <arvind_khadri> samorpheus, check it to put it in use
[08:05] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: why?
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> arvind_khadri, ahh...  massively multiplayer online (rpg)
[08:05] <Auctionedllama> LOL a file is locked to root
[08:05] <Auctionedllama> I have to be root to edit it
[08:05] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo
[08:05] <arvind_khadri> Daisuke_Ido, oh ok
[08:05] <Firestorm> Hey My Microfone Dosent work does anyone know what to do please, tell me
[08:05] <luderacer> use sudo Auctionedllama
[08:06] <Auctionedllama> LOL my bad I'm an idiot
[08:06] <Auctionedllama> ignore me
[08:06] <Flannel> Auctionedllama: You don't need to be root, you can use sudo.  And if its still locked, that means its most likely mounted read only.
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> !root | Auctionedllama
[08:06] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: gksudo gedit
[08:06] <Auctionedllama> lol I know my root password
[08:06] <Auctionedllama> I changed it xD
[08:06] <RenaKunisaki> I installed a GeForce 6200 and it couldn't find the driver so I manually selected the nv driver and rebooted and now it just shows a bunch of garbage on the screen even in the terminal
[08:06] <Drunk> Would somebody that is skilled with ubuntu like to download Eclipse [http://www.freemmorpgmaker.com/ee.php] and see how to get it to work?
[08:06] <Daisuke_Ido> if it uses activex, you probably will not be able to get it to work
[08:06] <RenaKunisaki> I booted it in recovery mode and did dpkg-reconfigure xorg which doesn't seem to have done anything
[08:07] <legend2440> !paste
[08:07] <Drunk> Well, that sucks, what happens if I run the server on my windows desktop and run the client on here?
[08:07] <chains> is there a way i can change the colors an app uses?
[08:07] <evilcry1> Hi
[08:07] <legend2440> patebin not working?
[08:07] <legend2440> pastebin
[08:07] <arvind_khadri> chains, be more clear
[08:08] <arvind_khadri> !cards
[08:08] <arvind_khadri> !graphics
[08:08] <chains> like, with pidgin, the when i change ubuntus theme colors, it only changed the background of apps. I want to change the fonts to.
[08:08] <Daisuke_Ido> Drunk, still activex
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> chains, then you have to actually change the fonts in pidgin
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> chains, you mean the fonts used by the apps
[08:09] <Drunk> Hmm, then what about the SoMx client not updating? I updated it on my windows comp and then sent it to myself, downloaded it on here and it still requirs an update.
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> chains, you need to set the fonts used by every app separately
[08:09] <Drunk> It just hangs there forever when I try to update it as well...
[08:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i want to map every font used on my system to comic sans
[08:10] <RenaKunisaki> ew
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Drunk, answer was already given
[08:10] <chains> well, i changed the apps font face with the appearance manager
[08:10] <Drunk> Its a different game, Daisuke_Ido
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ahh
[08:10] <Daisuke_Ido> so what's SoMx?
[08:10] <Drunk> It dosent require Active X
[08:10] <Drunk> Secrets of Mirage X, a simple 2d MMORPG
[08:10] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, which ubuntu???
[08:11] <shadeofgrey> i know this is a stupid place to be asking but is there a photoshop channel on this network?
[08:11] <chains> so if pidgins interface doesnt give the option to change the font colors, im out of luck?
[08:11] <shadeofgrey> the channel liust womnt load
[08:11] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, 7.10, x86
[08:11] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common try this
[08:12] <legend2440> what is the command for pastebinit? path/to/file.txt > pastebinit?
[08:12] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, after that ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:13] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, "Could not resolve 'ca.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[08:13] <RenaKunisaki> I'm in the "recovery mode" since the terminal is unreadable otherwise
[08:14] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, try the main server
[08:14] <MrGozInYah> hurm
[08:14] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, how?
[08:14] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, edit the sources.list
[08:14] <karex> what's compiz/beryl?
[08:14] <arvind_khadri> !repo
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> yay!  hacked-together .deb of amarok 1.4.9.1...  for gutsy!
[08:15] <cirkit_> Is there a way to change the ubuntu logo in the Applications menu bar?
[08:15] <arvind_khadri> !repo | RenaKunisaki
[08:15] <Starnestommy> karex: it's a a window manager that can do all sorts of special desktop effects
[08:15] <arvind_khadri> Starnestommy, hey which is the main server of repo
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl no longer exists
[08:16] <arvind_khadri> !beryl
[08:16] <Starnestommy> arvind_khadri: in the US, it's us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <Drunk> !compiz
[08:16] <arvind_khadri> Starnestommy, thought so :) thanks
[08:16] <karex> starnestommy:does it need 3d hardware accell?
[08:17] <Starnestommy> karex: it dows
[08:17] <Starnestommy> *does
[08:17] <Drunk> Im out thanks for the help, Ill be back later
[08:17] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, remove ca and place us in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <mip> which package provides konsole in gutsy ?
[08:17] <Flannel> mip: konsole
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> yay, i have cover fetching again!
[08:18] <karex> starnestommy: so i can't use it without gpu/vga card
[08:18] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, "Package nvidia-glx is not available" and "has no installation candidate"
[08:18] <Lapinux> can anyone help with this?  kernel: [481277.255141] npviewer.bin[20905]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 00000000f77c8ba8 rsp 00000000f4ab5cbc error 4
[08:18] <Auctionedllama> OMG, ok how do I install compiz completely? Is there a line of code I can run to install the whole damn package? This is getting so annoying!
[08:18] <mip> Flannel : Package konsole is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:18] <Lapinux> and error 7
[08:18] <{g}> Hey People!
[08:18] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, from the us repo??
[08:18] <damike> hi
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> RenaKunisaki, you might want to make sure the restricted repo is available
[08:18] <{g}> What was the command to find out, which ubuntu version I use?
[08:18] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, yes
[08:18] <obf213> * hmm
[08:18] <Flannel> mip: Pastebin your sources.list, sounds like you don't have main
[08:18] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[08:18] <Starnestommy> karex: no, but even if you get it working without one, it will be very slow and buggy
[08:18] <kinmat> how can i get a timer to use in a cyber
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> {g}, lsb_release -a
[08:19] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, jus a min
[08:19] <iltechie>  can I ?, how can I  paste from GUI browser to vim terminal editor?
[08:19] <hischild> iltechie, middle mouse click
[08:19] <Flannel> {g}: `lsb_release -a` and please change your nick to something less annoying to type/tabcomplete to
[08:19] <iltechie> hischild: ty
[08:19] <Auctionedllama> Hey, how can I install compiz completely with one line of code? Things are really screwed up ATM
[08:19] <{g}> Daisuke_Ido, Flannel: thank you!
[08:19] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, do you have proper refresh rates???
[08:19] <{\g> {\g}
[08:19] <damike> my nvidia graphic cards died. so i replaced it with an old S3 card. now ubuntu / xorg doesnt start anymore :( i removed the nvdia section from /etc/xorg.conf. what can i do?
[08:19] <Auctionedllama> Guys.. anyone know here?
[08:20] <hischild> {\g, that's just as annoying to tab complete to. Please use a normal name.
[08:20] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, no idea
[08:20] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, jus a sec
[08:20] <Auctionedllama> Hey, can someone PLEASE tell me a line of code that will install all of compiz
[08:20] <mip> Flannel : got it. I added kubuntu in sources.list. Thanks
[08:20] <a_normal_name> hischild: ok.
[08:20] <in4mer> sup
[08:20] <MrGozInYah> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5028
[08:20] <MrGozInYah> oops
[08:20] <MrGozInYah> ignore that
[08:20] <hischild> damike, in console/terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:20] <hischild> a_normal_name, thank you.
[08:20] <Starnestommy> a_normal_name: sudo apt-get install compiz
[08:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Auctionedllama, what don't you have?
[08:20] <damike> hischild, i try thx
[08:20] <Starnestommy> er...
[08:21] <kinmat> please help
[08:21] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: sudo apt-get install compiz
[08:21] <Flannel> mip: Ubuntu and Kubuntu don't have separate repositories, you must have been living without main for a while
[08:21] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido I keep getting rtarded errors
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> what isn't there, compix is installed by default.
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> like?
[08:21] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido want the error?
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that would be helpful
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> pastebin it if it's more than a line
[08:21] <cirkit_> anyone know how to change the default ubuntu icon in the menu bar when you install ubuntu?
[08:21] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido: I finally got XGL running so this is the last error it spits out "/usr/bin/compiz: 378: /usr/local/bin/compiz: not found"
[08:21] <MrGozInYah> Free 5gb online at : http://www.4shared.com/
[08:22] <shadeofgrey> what does the community at large think of using the partition program made by the guys that do tech tool to rearrange partitions on my mac -- is there more to it than that in 8?
[08:22] <Flannel> !ops | MrGozInYah
[08:22] <bazhang> MrGozInYah: not here please
[08:22] <MrGozInYah> oopssorry
[08:22] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido any suggestions?
[08:22] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, run this sudo displayconfig-gtk
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Auctionedllama, sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:23] <mip> Flannel : Your correct I added "main". The kubuntu line has got main entry. I added that properly
[08:23] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, holla
[08:23] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido already installed
[08:23] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, bunch of errors, let me see if I can copy it to a file
[08:23] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido I installed everything via the synaptic
[08:23] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: hi!
[08:23] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey how to see the refresh rates from the recovery mode???
[08:24] <Auctionedllama> daisuke_ido hey go to etc/xdg/compiz/ and tell me how many files/what files are in there for you
[08:24] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, its not there in xorg.conf
[08:24] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <bazhang> shadeofgrey: no real idea about that; might want to ask in apple channel
[08:25] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, not there :(
[08:25] <VanDyke> hey people
[08:25] <VanDyke> how do I change my default sound card?
[08:25] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: sorry no idea then
[08:26] <VanDyke> it's pulseaudio running here
[08:26] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hmm
[08:26] <bazhang> VanDyke: gutsy?
[08:26] <VanDyke> bazhang, hardy
[08:26] <Firestorm> My Microfone work on other OS, but not on Ubuntu please, help me here, havent configed my mic, in Ubuntu, could someone help me where?
[08:26] <bazhang> VanDyke: hardy may do it differently may want to ask in the hardy channel
[08:27] <Firestorm> Here*
[08:27] <arvind_khadri> Firestorm, did you check the alsamixer??
[08:28] <Firestorm> arvind_khadri; Nope
[08:28] <arvind_khadri> Firestorm, check it out type alsamixer in the terminal
[08:28] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, you there??
[08:29] <ampmaniac3> is there a shortcut for "sudo + mypassword + mycommand" so that it would not promt for password?
[08:29] <Firestorm> arvind_khadri: Yea?
[08:29] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, trying to redirect the output to a USB stick so I can pastebin it
[08:29] <bazhang> ampmaniac3: why do you want to do that?
[08:29] <VanDyke> oh I know what I'm gonna do
[08:29] <VanDyke> unplug the USB card and reboot
[08:29] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, try this till then .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614893
[08:29] <VanDyke> lol
[08:29] <VanDyke> brb
[08:29] <arvind_khadri> Firestorm, check out the levels for microphones
[08:30] <ampmaniac3> bazhang: i need to execute sudo with password already, 1 execution actually
[08:30] <Olgem> Can anyone suggest an iptables frontend that can do the linux equivalent of "internet connection sharing"? I tried firestarter but ran into an ugly bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firestarter/+bug/43784
[08:30] <Olgem> I think I could work through it
[08:31] <arvind_khadri> Olgem, firestarter
[08:31] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63683/ is the output from "sudo displayconfig-gtk"
[08:31] <Olgem> arvind_khadri, are you making fun of me :(
[08:31] <RenaKunisaki> I was getting "could not open display" errors with my ATI card too
[08:31] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, in the meanwhile check out the site i gave you
[08:31] <animator> привет всем///  s kodirovtkoi vsyo ok?
[08:31] <bazhang> !ru | animator
[08:31] <arvind_khadri> Olgem, oops sorry didnt read completely :(
[08:31] <ubotu> animator: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[08:32] <bay> #jakarta
[08:32] <hullap> Hi, can anyone tell me where is the cache folder of FF
[08:32] <animator> sorry ok
[08:32] <bazhang> wow double-bot
[08:32] <arvind_khadri> hullap, /var/cache i guess
[08:32] <hullap> thnx
[08:32] <luderacer> lots of spammers
[08:32] <Oprtz> hi there
[08:32] <luderacer> spammers suck
[08:33] <Firestorm> #ubuntu-da
[08:33] <Oprtz> i want to install ubuntu on my external USB HDD, can i do that?
[08:33] <Firestorm> Hmm isent there a danish Ubuntu Channel?
[08:33] <bazhang> !dk
[08:33] <ubotu> For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[08:34] <bazhang> Firestorm: /j #ubuntu-dk
[08:34] <|g|> Hey People!
[08:34] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, sounds like an onboard video problem? I don't have onboard video
[08:34] <Fa> hi
[08:34] <hischild> hello
[08:34] <Firestorm> Bazhang, I am not total stupid :P
[08:34] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, the paste means that you can run gtk as you are not in X
[08:35] <Firestorm> Just new to ubuntu :D
[08:35] <|g|> I just wanted to download Ubuntu8. There seems to be no checksum on the page. How do you verify the iso hasnt been tinkered with, when downloading from a mirror?
[08:35] <Fa> cool
[08:35] <sjovan> Firestorm: good for you :)
[08:35] <bazhang> Firestorm: never my implication
[08:35] <Fa> i'm gonna install kde with ubuntu
[08:35] <Oprtz> i want to install ubuntu on my external USB HDD, can i do that? Beside i am using a notebook, cant unplug HDD cables when instaling ubuntu, any suggestion?
[08:35] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, just try that once
[08:35] <shadeofgrey> how long till 8 hits?
[08:35] <bazhang> Fa: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <Fa> 6 days
[08:35] <Fa> yeah bazbang
[08:36] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I'll try it but the terminal is unreadable so I can't really tell if it works
[08:36] <Fa> i'm just waiting for 8 to come out of beta
[08:36] <RenaKunisaki> it's only readable in recovery mode
[08:36] <bazhang> Oprtz: you have a cd drive?
[08:36] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, do that in recovery mode only
[08:36] <Oprtz> bazhang: yes i do
[08:37] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: can you gksudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz and check lines 30-35?
[08:37] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, try which, the displayconfig?
[08:37] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, no modprobe one
[08:37] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: just found that same topic I bet, already editing them
[08:37] <arvind_khadri> legend2440, thats gksu
[08:37] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: ok
[08:38] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: to test.. how do I change the cube thing?
[08:39] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, also try to do the gtk thing...there might be refresh rate probs
[08:39] <fredmv> Possibly a newb question, but, is there a way via apt-get/synaptic that I can update to Hardy from Gutsy?
[08:39] <arvind_khadri> fredmv, update-manager -d
[08:39] <bazhang> fredmv: sure
[08:39] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: not sure i turned off compiz a while back
[08:39] <Auctionedllama> Hey guys how do I move the desktop cube around?
[08:40] <Auctionedllama> ??
[08:40] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: ctrl or shift + left right arrows?
[08:40] <fredmv> thanks arvind_khadri
[08:40] <hischild> Auctionedllama, install compizconfig-settings-manager and them middle mouse drag on the background
[08:40] <Oprtz> bazhang: yes i have DVD writer in my laptop...
[08:40] <arvind_khadri> fredmv, :) welcome
[08:40] <Auctionedllama> WOW
[08:41] <Auctionedllama> ok.. guys.. after I installed XGL server it makes stuff really choppy
[08:41] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: its working?
[08:41] <Auctionedllama> Is there any way to disable this but still have compiz run
[08:41] <Auctionedllama> and yes legend after 5 days, it runs, thanks to you a few other people
[08:41] <Auctionedllama> Phew
[08:41] <bazhang> Oprtz: well then download the iso, burn to cd and boot up in livecd then install--be sure to choose the correct drive though
[08:41] <hischild> Auctionedllama, in ccsm you can disable stuff to make it lighter
[08:41] <Auctionedllama> hischild: what? I enabled xglserver or w/e it is and its made stuff really choppy
[08:42] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: maybe you dont really need xserver-xgl you installed earlier
[08:42] <hischild> Auctionedllama, because it enabled compiz now.
[08:42] <Oprtz> bazhang: is there a way inthe setup (bios) to disable internal HDD, i dont want to take risk?
[08:42] <Auctionedllama> hischild: no even before that
[08:42] <Auctionedllama> hischild: trust me, my card can handle compiz, it has 512 ram
[08:42] <hischild> Auctionedllama, then get ccsm, run it, and disable some things.
[08:43] <Auctionedllama> hischild: where can I get that?
[08:43] <Auctionedllama> add/remove?
[08:43] <hischild> Auctionedllama, and an 8600 GT has some trouble running compiz full open
[08:43] <hischild> Auctionedllama, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:43] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, did the modprobe help??
[08:43] <Auctionedllama> hischild: ya, I have it
[08:43] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: type ccsm in terminal you probably already have it
[08:43] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, no
[08:43] <Auctionedllama> hischild: just the thing, before compiz worked, the XGL made everything like.. awful
[08:44] <Auctionedllama> hischild: whenever I scroll with the mouse in firefox, everything is choppy
[08:44] <bazhang> not sure about that Oprtz; always just chose the correct drive myself
[08:44] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm try the refresh rates from booting with X
[08:44] <hinogi> you don't need xgl for compiz
[08:44] <hischild> Auctionedllama, because compiz is a lot heavier then metacity. You don't happen to run xen do you?
[08:44] <hischild> hinogi, ati cards do
[08:44] <hinogi> no they dont
[08:44] <hinogi> not anymore
[08:44] <hinogi> current prop drive have aiglx
[08:44] <GH-VAIO> hello
[08:44] <GH-VAIO> i need help
[08:44] <hischild> hinogi, i've had an x1300. gutsy _does_ need it
[08:45] <hinogi> well hardy doesn't
[08:45] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- i can seem to use make, in the psyBNC directory
[08:45] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, are you still having the console
[08:45] <hischild> hinogi, then go to #ubuntu+1 and help there. There's a difference with Gutsy.
[08:45] <kabads> using u 8.04, is there a reason why users-admin won't let me add groups or users (buttons are blanked out)? I've tried gksudo users-admin with the same effect.
[08:45] <hinogi> i have a 3780 HD
[08:45] <hischild> !hardy | kabads
[08:45] <ubotu> kabads: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:45] <Oprtz> i have ubuntu on my other machine, i install some plugins from ADD/REMOVE section, and now when i play a video files, it is unable to play it, and when i play the file with VLC player, it has a poor quality as compared to widnowsXP, anybody can tell me what is the default players and plugins (selected) in add/remove section? i want to restor it
[08:45] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- i can seem to use make, in the psyBNC directory, anybody can help me out with this?
[08:45] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- i can seem to use make, in the psyBNC directory, anybody can help me out with this?
[08:45] <hischild> !repeat | GH-VAIO
[08:45] <ubotu> GH-VAIO: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:46] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, you mean the corrupted graphics in the terminal?
[08:46] <hischild> GH-VAIO, that's a highly unusable error. Please pastebin the entire error.
[08:46] <Auctionedllama> hischild: I know its not supposed to be like that
[08:46] <legend2440> Auctionedllama:  i bet it started getting choppy after you installed xserver-xgl. you may not need that
[08:46] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: correct
[08:46] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: ok lemme try to uninstall
[08:46] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: and compiz no longer works..
[08:46] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, no just a clean running terminal
[08:46] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, only in recovery mode
[08:46] <GH-VAIO> hischild how do i paste
[08:46] <Auctionedllama> WAIt, brb
[08:46] <hischild> !pastebin | GH-VAIO
[08:46] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, ok are you sure that your graphics are enabled??
[08:47] <GH-VAIO> weres the pastebin?
[08:47] <ubotu> GH-VAIO: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:47] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I don't know, it works in Windows if that's what you mean
[08:47] <zaius55> Hello.. I've got a HP printer that will print on printable DVD's CD's, anyone know any software that will support this in linux?
[08:48] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, :) no ..ok try this as root ...  nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:48] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, i.e sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:48] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know a good transparency app, something like glass2k in windows
[08:49] <Oprtz> i have ubuntu on my other machine, i install some plugins from ADD/REMOVE section, and now when i play a video files, it is unable to play it, and when i play the file with VLC player, it has a poor quality as compared to widnowsXP, anybody can tell me what is the default players and plugins (selected) in add/remove section? i want to restor it
[08:49] <hinogi> have a look at synaptics zaius55 and search for cd label or something
[08:49] <Fa> i get better quality with ubuntu than windows
[08:49] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, gstreamer
[08:49] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, command not found
[08:50] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: i am new to linux, what is gstreamer?
[08:50] <Quiz_Master> Oprtz: You tried w32codecs with Mplayer ?
[08:50] <zaius55> hinogi: Thanks
[08:50] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, they are the plugins for audio and video
[08:50] <GH-VAIO> i can seem to paste my test, in the paste bin
[08:50] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: ahh cool
[08:50] <GH-VAIO> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check
[08:50] <GH-VAIO> i wasent spamming
[08:50] <Oprtz> Quiz_Master: i installed all the plugins available in add/remove section
[08:51] <RenaKunisaki> GH-VIAO, you have Javascript enabled?
[08:51] <Quiz_Master> Oprtz: No w32codecs isn't in the repo
[08:51] <gogeta> +2 points to dell
[08:51] <bazhang> GH-VAIO: install pastebinit then cat and pipe whatever you want to pastebinit
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, do you have the drivers installed in ubuntu??as that command worked for me now
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> !graphics
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> !drivers
[08:51] <gogeta> the first hsf modem driver kinda worked but i found another from dell that called hsf custom
[08:51] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: do u know why the picture quality is so poor? due to lack of gstramer?
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, maybe not sure....
[08:52] <gogeta> this one works
[08:52] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: but when i install fresh ubuntu it works fine :( but now now and i dont located which softwae to uninstall :(
[08:53] <soumyadeep> can any body tell me is it possible to install a .tar package in ubuntu  as i cant find the .deb
[08:53] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I think not, I was getting "Package nvidia-glx is not available" and "has no installation candidate" when I did apt-get
[08:53] <gogeta> soumyadeep bad idea
[08:53] <bazhang> soumyadeep: what package
[08:53] <Quiz_Master> souYes possible
[08:53] <bentob0x> why are the user fonts installed on the system different than the admin fonts
[08:53] <Quiz_Master> soumyadeep: yes possible..U need to compile from source
[08:53] <gogeta> soumyadeep better oof just compling the source and using checkinstall to make that deb at least then it will br proper to the distro
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, ok sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[08:54] <MBAHKIJO> wes hewes wes hewes weees
[08:54] <bazhang> MBAHKIJO: english please
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, can you please paste your xorg.conf
[08:54] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: thanks dear
[08:54] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know a good transparency app, something like glass2k in windows
[08:54] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, give me a minute to copy it
[08:54] <soumyadeep> i am looking for quiz master pls tell me the process
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, thats ok but i think you need to install lots of other things too if you have removed them
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> soumyadeep, which package???
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, time seems to be running when am here ;)
[08:55] <Quiz_Master> soumyadeep: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[08:55] <soumyadeep> flash player package for mozilla
[08:55] <Quiz_Master> Refer to that
[08:55] <gogeta> soumyadeep you use alien but dont cry if you blow up ubuntu
[08:55] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: ;]
[08:55] <soumyadeep> thx
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> soumyadeep, there are flash plugins avaliable
[08:55] <Quiz_Master> yes
[08:56] <bazhang> gogeta no need for rpms ever, especially that
[08:56] <gogeta> :)
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> soumyadeep, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:56] <hischild> gogeta, may i ask why you'd suggest something that basically won't work?
[08:56] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63685/
[08:57] <bazhang> gogeta that is just plain bad advice; refrain from it in the future please
[08:57] <gogeta> lol
[08:57] <gogeta> just told him how
[08:57] <bazhang> !coc > gogeta
[08:57] <Auctionedllama> hi all
[08:58] <Auctionedllama> This is llama on a different computer
[08:58] <nael> What is Hardy like, is it a big improvement?
[08:58] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, i think you dont have the drivers
[08:58] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, have a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63685/ please
[08:59] <Auctionedllama> Hey uh, you guys told me to disable xserver-xgl, so I did, and I can't get into ubuntu, its clashing with compiz.. how can I install the xserver from recovery mode?
[08:59] <Auctionedllama> xserver_xgl that is
[08:59] <hischild> Auctionedllama, sudo aptitude xserver-xgl
[08:59] <hischild> *
[08:59] <Auctionedllama> thanks his
[08:59] <hischild> sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl
[08:59] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[09:00] <Auctionedllama> ok, installing
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, the drivers for the card aint present right??
[09:00] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: you need to enable the restricted driver; currently that is the 'nv' only
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hmm i thought the drivers aint installed
[09:00] <Auctionedllama> Man, it seems as soon as I activate xserver-xgl, even if compiz isn't enable I lose massive performance.. even If I'm not running compiz.. is there any way around this?
[09:00] <hischild> Auctionedllama, i could say something like i told you so ... but please, would you mind pastebinning you xorg? sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[09:01] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: possibly not; check synaptic package manager and see if they are
[09:01] <gogeta> Auctionedllama maynot be a compiz issue
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, boot into the gnome session
[09:01] <Auctionedllama> ok.. one sec mate
[09:01] <Auctionedllama> hischild: hang on one sec mate, gotta reboot
[09:01] <gogeta> Auctionedllama a confliting hostname will slow x to a crawl
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, ok this is for someone else will check out and catch you up
[09:01] <Auctionedllama> gogeta: uhm what?
[09:01] <hischild> Auctionedllama, take your time.
[09:02] <Auctionedllama> gogeta: a conflicting hostname? you mean on the same network?
[09:02] <gogeta> Auctionedllama yep
[09:02] <hischild> Auctionedllama, reboot, i'll explain as soon as you get back.
[09:02] <Auctionedllama> gogeta: well its not so xD
[09:02] <Auctionedllama> hischild: ok back in matey
[09:02] <RenaKunisaki> um, crap
[09:02] <gogeta> :-(
[09:02] <hischild> Auctionedllama, there's another file we need to check that.
[09:02] <RenaKunisaki> I just realized I'm in #ubuntu when I should be in #xubuntu >_<
[09:02] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, did you boot in
[09:02] <Auctionedllama> ok now what his
[09:02] <Auctionedllama> im in
[09:03] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I'm at the login screen but I can't see it, still corrupt garbage
[09:03] <hischild> Auctionedllama, ok. Pastebin both your /etc/hosts and xorg.conf. sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit && cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit
[09:03] <Auctionedllama> also, what are the controls to flip the compiz cube? I can't do it with the middle mose
[09:03] <Auctionedllama> is that all one command?
[09:03] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, type your username and password
[09:03] <hischild> Auctionedllama, yup
[09:03] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I did
[09:03] <hischild> Auctionedllama, copy from the sudo aptitude till the very end
[09:04] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, so can you see the taskbar atleast??
[09:04] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, nope, just a blue screen with a lot of red and black dots in diagonal lines
[09:04] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, second screen says out of range
[09:05] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, you need to enable your drivers and check for the refresh rate
[09:05] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, the menu on the monitor says 1680x1050 60hz, don't know how to enable the drivers when I can't see
[09:06] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, the first time it booted it loaded the vesa driver and worked, and it showed the "restricted drivers manager" and I enabled the NVidia driver there and rebooted, that's when it stopped working
[09:07] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, ohh ok
[09:07] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, somehow just disable it
[09:08] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I'll try changing the driver back in xorg.conf
[09:08] <Auctionedllama> Hey man, can you repost that long command?
[09:08] <hischild> Auctionedllama,  sudo aptitude install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit && cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit
[09:08] <kindofabuzz> if you have wireless don't "upgrade" to Hardy.  i tried for 5 hours to get it working. no dice =(
[09:08] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, why dont you jus remove the card and boot back in ,jus a suggestion it may work
[09:08] <Auctionedllama> Hey, and what is the command for controlling the cube? the middle mouse button isn't working
[09:09] <bazhang> want to talk about it in #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:09] <hischild> Auctionedllama, ctrl alt left and right
[09:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl+alt+click and drag
[09:09] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, remove the drivers then and again put the card back,this time dont enable the restricted drivers
[09:09] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, if I removed the card I'd have nothing to plug the monitor into, there's no onboard video
[09:09] <bazhang> kindofabuzz: sorry that was meant for you
[09:10] <Auctionedllama> Guys, I thought this was supposed to form a cube.. not a flat panel.. but anyways his child that command is done
[09:10] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm not even VGA
[09:10] <hischild> Auctionedllama, it should give you 2 links. Can give you give those?
[09:10] <Auctionedllama> ya
[09:10] <william> hey fellow ubuntuers
[09:10] <Auctionedllama> just went to them
[09:10] <Auctionedllama> http://paste.stgraber.org/2638
[09:10] <Auctionedllama> http://paste.stgraber.org/2639
[09:11] <kindofabuzz> bazhang, no help there, was in there for like 3 hours and maybe 3 people talked. not looking for help anymore, sticking with gutsy
[09:11] <Auctionedllama> Guys, on the vids I have seen, the cube is an actual cube, with 4 desktops.. can I ge tthat?
[09:11] <william> does anyone know a good chat site for linux/kubuntu newbies???
[09:11] <bazhang> kindofabuzz: ah okay; which card
[09:11] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, nope; I just changed the "nv" to "vesa" in xorg.conf and will see if that helps
[09:11] <hischild> Auctionedllama, yes you can. Type ccsm and then in the top option look for desktop size. Set it at 4.
[09:11] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, yeah fine
[09:11] <hischild> Auctionedllama, is your pc called ubuntu?
[09:11] <kindofabuzz> linksys (broadcom)
[09:11] <Auctionedllama> hischild: yes..
[09:12] <kindofabuzz> the most common one that don't work
[09:12] <hischild> Auctionedllama, ok that's good then.
[09:12] <william> is anyone else here new to ubuntu???
[09:12] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, well i too had been in the same situation but wasnt this worse though ;)
[09:12] <hischild> Auctionedllama, are there any other pc's on the network that run ubuntu?
[09:12] <bazhang> william: perhaps ##linux
[09:12] <Auctionedllama> hischild: I had formatted my drive so many times, I got tired of renaming it, so left it alone.. and if I had a X1650 pro (512 ram) how many fps should I be getting for the cube switcheroo?
[09:12] <Auctionedllama> and no
[09:12] <william> how do i find ##linux?
[09:12] <bazhang> william click the link
[09:12] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, is there maybe a way I can enable a VNC server and control it from another machine?
[09:13] <ce_ajaaaaaaa> jhgujti
[09:13] <william> nice, thanks
[09:13] <RenaKunisaki> william, /join ##linux
[09:13] <RenaKunisaki> or that
[09:13] <bazhang> ce_ajaaaaaaa: english please
[09:13] <gearfox> hello are there alternatives to using mesa drivers?  a game I play doesn't work well with them
[09:13] <hischild> Auctionedllama, i understand. You should be having quite a nice fps. You can check your fps by enabling the benchmark in ccsm and then starting it with the hotkey (check it under the appropriate tab)
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, no idea about netwroking sorry
[09:14] <RenaKunisaki> tsk, it's checking my 215GB partition, this is going to take forever >_<
[09:14] <RenaKunisaki> but I can see the text, that's a good sign
[09:14] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, so the vesa thing worked??
[09:14] <Auctionedllama> I don't see benchmark matey
[09:14] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, not sure yet
[09:15] <bazhang> off to install wubi back in a bit ;]
[09:15] <RenaKunisaki> it wants to check the filesystem before booting
[09:15] <hischild> Auctionedllama, when you start up ccsm, on the main screen of it where you can enable/disable all the plugins etc, one of them should be a benchmark looking thing.
[09:15] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm am holding on
[09:15] <Auctionedllama> whats its called/
[09:15] <hischild> Auctionedllama, i'm not sure
[09:15] <RenaKunisaki> this could take hours, is there a way to abort the filesystem check?
[09:15] <RenaKunisaki> oh wait it sped up
[09:16] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, no
[09:16] <Auctionedllama> found it
[09:16] <RenaKunisaki> if it doesn't slow down again it should only be a minute
[09:16] <Auctionedllama> ok I can't find the benchmark though
[09:17] <Auctionedllama> like on the sreen
[09:17] <Auctionedllama> I enabled it..
[09:17] <hischild> Auctionedllama, if you click it to see the options, go to the shortcuts. There's a hotkey to enable it.
[09:17] <broonsparrow> hi - i've just installed ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop, when I go to add prgrammes it keeps saysing list of applications not available. i click refresh, it downloads then same thing....any ideas?
[09:18] <arvind_khadri> broonsparrow, enable the repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <gearfox> also I am using an nvidia card
[09:18] <kindofabuzz> that's so stupid they're not enabled by default in Gutsy
[09:18] <arvind_khadri> kindofabuzz, whats not enabled???
[09:19] <kindofabuzz> the repos people need to download stuff, updates aren't even enabled by default
[09:19] <Auctionedllama> Ya.. whenever I click actions all my textures get screwed up and I can't read anything
[09:19] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, over??
[09:19] <arvind_khadri> kindofabuzz, well the updates come in when you enable the repos
[09:19] <arvind_khadri> broonsparrow, enable the repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, bunch of filesystem errors on this disk that it wants to fix >_<
[09:20] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm must be the inode clusters
[09:20] <Auctionedllama> Ok.. this is Gay.. can someone check the hotkey to activate the benchmark for me/
[09:21] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, it's EXT2, I had copied a bunch of files to it in Windows using a supposedly stable driver, apparently that didn't work
[09:21] <RenaKunisaki> but I can just format it and re-copy them
[09:21] <Auctionedllama> Hey.. can someone tell me the hotkey for the compiz benchmark? I can't access it to see
[09:21] <RenaKunisaki> except fsck has already decided to fix it
[09:21] <broonsparrow> cheers. i'll try that
[09:21] <cvd-pr>  can i run in virtual box an already windowsxp partition?
[09:22] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, you mean the ubuntu drive??
[09:22] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, the /home partition
[09:22] <arvind_khadri> cvd-pr, you mean VMware??
[09:22] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, ohh ok...
[09:22] <cvd-pr> virtualbox
[09:23] <motoct> hi, who can i ask a question about vlc and sound device drivers
[09:23] <gregory> !ask | motoct
[09:23] <ubotu> motoct: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:23] <arvind_khadri> cvd-pr, i dont think you can
[09:23] <broonsparrow> one other thing the laptop display only works when i have a video cable plugged into the video output - any ideas why? it works fine running on live CD just not when I've installed onto hdd
[09:24] <RenaKunisaki> looks like a bunch of Japanese filenames got corrupted in the copy
[09:24] <arvind_khadri> broonsparrow, reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:24] <gregory> cvd-pr: you may have heard of the command "dd". but i think in the end it would not work, because winxp detects that the hardware from virtualbox is not the same as the original install. licence problems could arise then
[09:24] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm
[09:25] <soroush>  Hi, when I insert a cd/dvd , it was not automatically mounted even if I clicked on the recognised CD/DVD icon, so I tried changing /etc/sudoers and changed it as you can see it here, now it can be mounted via terminal using sudo mount /dev/cdrom but it can't be mounted in Gnome either. I had similar problems with running programs like users-admin via gui and I saw an error saying:::
[09:25] <RenaKunisaki> ok, it's done, rebooting
[09:25] <arvind_khadri> gregory, isnt virtual box something like VMware
[09:25] <soroush>  XAutorization file couldn't be copied
[09:25] <legend2440> Auctionedllama: super(windows key)+F12 if you have Benchmarks clicked
[09:25] <motoct> i have a usb radio device. when plugged in, you get /dev/dsp1. i played it in VLC (by selecting "audio device name"). i closed vlc and when i reopened it, it doesn't play the device anymore. i do hear static from the speakers. anyone has any idea what happened?
[09:25] <RenaKunisaki> probably that driver doesn't work with Unicode properly
[09:25] <soroush>  I could solve the last problem by running XServer scripts mode in user login
[09:25] <soroush>  but the first problem has still remained
[09:25] <soroush>  my config files:
[09:25] <soroush>  http://nopaste.com/p/aukjvVDnw
[09:25] <soroush>  I think it is a problem with my XServer or Gnome
[09:25] <soroush>  because everything goes well in terminal
[09:26] <Auctionedllama> legend2440: that didn;t work D:
[09:26] <gregory> arvind_khadri: yes, wikipedia: virtualbox
[09:26] <Auctionedllama> wow it just made everything REALLY laggy
[09:26] <arvind_khadri> gregory AFAIK you cant VMware a already installed XP
[09:26] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, is it working now??
[09:26] <Auctionedllama> woa
[09:26] <Auctionedllama> Everything is so laggy all of a sudden
[09:26] <Auctionedllama> !!!!!
[09:27] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, yes, it's up again
[09:27] <xircx> hi i just installed my gforce 7900 gs and now my sound dont work
[09:27] <RenaKunisaki> back to the vesa driver and I can see things
[09:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:28] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:28] <Auctionedllama> Help man
[09:28] <caveymason> how do you like rotate the screen?
[09:28] <Auctionedllama> I am getting like 3 FPS !
[09:28] <arvind_khadri> caveymason, compiz
[09:28] <Micrll> hey all, first time on here, and I got a quick question (I just hope to get some basic infromation)  Should I install 8.04 RC, my local university linux user group is having their install fest tommrow.  I am running windows xp on my computer, and my roomate and I just popped in a extra 80gb drive so I can dual boot on two drives.  This is not a "Mission critical" thing as long as I can still access my xp partition.
[09:29] <Auctionedllama> ok
[09:29] <Auctionedllama> fixed nm
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm dont enable the nv thingy
[09:29] <caveymason> were in compiz?
[09:29] <msingh> anyone manage to update their dell inspiron 530S BIOS? i cant find a way to do it
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> caveymason, download the CCSM compiz configuration setting manager
[09:30] <babydragon> ???
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, eveything fine now??
[09:30] <babydragon> 大家好
[09:30] <gregory> arvind_khadri: would it work with dd ?
[09:30] <babydragon> 这是我第一次用XCHAT
[09:30] <gregory> !cn | babydragon
[09:30] <ubotu> babydragon: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[09:30] <caveymason> yep got that? then what?
[09:30] <caveymason> i dont mean like the cube i mean like rotate my screen 90 degrees for reading and stuff
[09:30] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, no, I have no hardware acceleration and only one monitor
[09:30] <joshhunt_> I am having a very strange problem
[09:30] <bod_> hi
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> gregory, i dont think so as you need to have a iso for running virtualizers
[09:31] <joshhunt_> i cant ./hldsupdatetool.bin a file. It says it dosnt exist, when it does
[09:31] <RikkuMobile> good question cavey, might come in hndy on my tablet.
[09:31] <babydragon> ???
[09:31] <joshhunt_> I am following this http://www.srcds.com/db/engine.php?subaction=showfull&id=1098643920&archive=
[09:31] <babydragon> you all speak english?
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, aah ckeck out the displayconfig0gtk now
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> babydragon, yeah
[09:31] <babydragon> why not chinese?
[09:31] <joshhunt_> because we dont know it?
[09:31] <bod_> joshhunt_, make sure the file does exist with   ls -lah    and make sure you've cd'd to the correct location to use ./
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> babydragon, this is an english channel thats why
[09:32] <bod_> !chinese
[09:32] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[09:32] <babydragon> o my english is very very pool
[09:32] <msingh> how do you guys update your bios if the update ocmes as a windows executable?
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, dispalyconfig-gtk
[09:32] <joshhunt_> bod_, the file exists '-rwxr-xr-x 1 joshhunt joshhunt 3.4M Sep  2  2005 hldsupdatetool.bin' And i am in the right dir
[09:32] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I'm in it
[09:32] <babydragon> this is my first time use  xchat
[09:33] <bod_> joshhunt_, whats the exact command ur tryin to use?
[09:33] <d-ra> fouad: you made a mistake
[09:33] <caveymason> rotating screen?
[09:33] <joshhunt_> ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[09:33] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, there do you see the option for the graphics card??
[09:33] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, yes
[09:33] <bod_> joshhunt_, tried using tab completion to make sure the file exists/spelled correctly ?
[09:33] <Micrll> so is everyone working with the RC or 7?
[09:34] <zvacet> Micrll:Why not?
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, try enabling things here
[09:34] <joshhunt_> bod_, yup
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, set the refresh rate and things here
[09:34] <jussio1> Micrll: this channel is only for 7.10 at the moment
[09:34] <Micrll> ah ok
[09:34] <bod_> joshhunt_, and tab completioon works? try usin the whole file path instead of ./
[09:34] <zvacet> Micrll:Most of poepole will install Hardy these days.
[09:34] <Micrll> thanks ubuntu+1 is rc then right?
[09:34] <opsyde> I'm trying to install something from a deb which requires libtiff3g, which i can't find on the internet, I've got libtiff4 but the deb wants libtiff3g; solution?
[09:35] <RikkuMobile> cavey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148177
[09:35] <jussio1> Micrll: correct
[09:35] <zvacet> Micrll:yes!
[09:35] <calc> Micrll: hardy will be released ~ next thursday
[09:35] <arvind_khadri> opsyde, libtiff3g-dev
[09:35] <joshhunt_> bod_, like this /home/user/srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin
[09:35] <babydragon> i am use it now
[09:35] <RikkuMobile> caveymason: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148177
[09:35] <joshhunt_> s/?
[09:35] <bod_> joshhunt_, yes
[09:36] <zvacet> calc:But if he can not wait?
[09:36] <joshhunt_> bod_, No such file or directory, and i used tab completion
[09:36] <xircx> whats this
[09:36] <xircx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:36] <calc> zvacet: might as well go for hardy, it will have a few more updates but not too much
[09:36] <Micrll> calc: the local Linux user group is doing a install fest tommrow so this is the best time to do a install
[09:36] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, it's only listing 640x480 73hz, 800x600 73hz, 1024x768 76hz, 1280x1024 76hz, and 1600x1200 76hz
[09:36] <murlidhar> hi all , i have a hardy alternate cd beta . now i want to use jigdo to update the image to release candidate. can u please help me since i don't know how to use jigdo
[09:36] <bod_> joshhunt_, the only other thing i can suggest is to move it somewhere else using nautilus or cp&paste the filepath from nautilus
[09:37] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, go for the last one thats what your monitor supports right
[09:37] <opsyde> arvnid_khadri,
[09:37] <joshhunt_> bod_, cant use nautilus cos im on a server...
[09:37] <zvacet> calc: i prefer to see it stable and then go for it.Maybe few more weeks.
[09:37] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, no matter what I select I end up in some mode where the monitors both report their native resolutions but the image looks like 800x600
[09:37] <bod_> joshhunt_, dont know what to suggest im afraid,.
[09:37] <mattycoze> hey everyone, I need help with this next update for Ubuntu 8.04; I want to know if Ubuntu 7.10 has a current option to back-up everything to smoothly integrate the current programs installed, settings and files loaded on the HD into the next version of Ubuntu?
[09:37] <RenaKunisaki> the image scrolls as if it's too big for the screen
[09:38] <jussi01> !backup | mattycoze
[09:38] <ubotu> mattycoze: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:38] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm wierd
[09:38] <opsyde> arvind_khadri: even libtiff3g isn't in the debian repositories
[09:38] <murlidhar> RenaKunisaki, arvind_khadri is not better if u reconfigure xorg,conf
[09:38] <bod_> mattycoze, use   sudo update manager -d  (i think) and everything will still be there after the upgrade
[09:38] <buzzsaw> what user runs the apache server? when installed with LAMP ?
[09:39] <mattycoze> bod - yeah i did that once with ubuntu 6.06 update but it didn't work out very nicely
[09:39] <mattycoze> it was all kinds of bad :p
[09:39] <babydragon> i am using ubuntu 8.04 and it's very good
[09:39] <mattycoze> babydragon; kudos
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> opsyde, which pacakge???
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, hmm yeah but he has done it once
[09:39] <opsyde> arvind_khadri, i need libtiff3g
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, purge your xserver
[09:39] <bod_> mattycoze, i upraded with that method from 7.10 to 8.04 and everything was fine ,.,. you could ask about stability with the upgrade in #ubuntu+1 ;~)
[09:40] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, how?
[09:40] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, oh ok i just showed in the channel
[09:40] <opsyde> arvind_khadri, is there a way to modify a deb package's dependencies?
[09:40] <arvind_khadri> opsyde, which package are you compiling
[09:40] <brad016> I'm having trouble enabling "Extra" Visual Effects in the new RC
[09:40] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, jus a min
[09:41] <opsyde> arvind_khadri, an XV package, the libraries it depends on are old, can't seem to find libtiff3g
[09:41] <bod_> how can i get the source code for zenity? sudo apt-get source zenity ??
[09:41] <gregory> !compile | bod_
[09:41] <ubotu> bod_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:41] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg
[09:41] <jussio1> bod_:  without the sudo
[09:42] <broonsparrow> hi. was just here, but disappear - i'm having problems with laptop monitor and someone suggested "reconfigure xserver-xorg" unfortunantly i don't know what that means!
[09:42] <bod_> gregory, i dont want to compile anythin? jussi01 cheers
[09:42] <arvind_khadri> opsyde, hmm whats the name of the package
[09:42] <bod_> jussi01, where does the code get saved to?
[09:42] <Exteris> broonsparrow, you need to run the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, ok, done
[09:43] <jussio1> bod_: no probs. if you use the sudo it will seriously mess the permissions up for it.
[09:43] <gregory> bod_: the document shows you how to retrieve a source package.
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, restart X ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:43] <bod_> gregory, ok, cheers
[09:43] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, "Failed to start the X server"
[09:44] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, install it
[09:44] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[09:44] <soroush> my desktop doesn't do sudo when it must do , how can I change the settings to force sudo?
[09:44] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, yeah
[09:44] <arvind_khadri> soroush, you should be in the admin group for that
[09:44] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, "package xserver-xorg is not available"
[09:45] <opsyde> arvind_khadri, libtiff3g
[09:45] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, can you use synaptic??
[09:45] <zvacet> RenaKunisaki: enable all repos in system>admn>software sources and reload.
[09:45] <arvind_khadri> soroush, go to recovery mode and type adduser <username> admin
[09:45] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, it says "cannot open display"
[09:46] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, ok gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:46] <RenaKunisaki> zvacet, I uncommented them all in /etc/apt/sources.list if that's what you mean
[09:46] <bod_> gregory, that document just says 'get it from the authors site' -- jussio1, where does the source code obtained by apt-get source zenity   get saved to?
[09:46] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, thats wierd have you got the proper servers??
[09:46] <jussio1> bod_: wherever you called it from
[09:47] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I'll copy the file
[09:47] <bod_> jussio1, ok cheers
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> bod_, from the place where you issue the command generally to home
[09:47] <soroush> arvind_khadri: i'm in already in admin group
[09:47] <bod_> arvind_khadri, cheers ;~)
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> soroush, so what doesn happen
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hmm ...
[09:48] <RenaKunisaki> that's weird, I'm getting permission denied trying to copy it to the USB stick now
[09:48] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hey did you do a sudo apt-get update after enabling the repos???
[09:48] <DOOM_NX> good morning :)
[09:48] <soroush> arvind_khadri: when I try to run it through menu it is run but when I try to install packages it says me 11 resources not available
[09:48] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I think so, I'll try again
[09:49] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I'm in run XServer scripts mode
[09:49] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, update is very imp
[09:49] <soroush> arvind_khadri: my gnome has more problems too
[09:49] <arvind_khadri> soroush, what command??
[09:50] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I guess I didn't, apt-get is working now
[09:50] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I try to run synaptic
[09:50] <soroush> arvind_khadri: moreover  when I insert a cd/dvd , it was not automatically mounted even if I clicked on the recognised CD/DVD icon, so I tried changing /etc/sudoers and changed it as you can see it here, now it can be mounted via terminal using sudo mount /dev/cdrom but it can't be mounted in Gnome either. I had similar problems with running programs like users-admin via gui and I saw an error saying
[09:50] <soroush>  XAutorization file couldn't be copied
[09:50] <soroush>  I could solve the last problem by running XServer scripts mode in user login
[09:50] <soroush>  but the first problem has still remained
[09:50] <RenaKunisaki> installed xserver-xorg again
[09:50] <soroush>  my config files:
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, i have had that expirince
[09:50] <soroush> arvind_khadri:  http://nopaste.com/p/aukjvVDnw
[09:50] <soroush>  I think it is a problem with my XServer or Gnome
[09:50] <soroush>  because everything goes well in terminal
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, now try installing the nvidia-glx that will work now
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, sorry didnt think of update before :s
[09:51] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, it happens :-p
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, hey i need to go to have my lunch damm hungry
[09:51] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, funny, it's 3 AM here
[09:52] <arvind_khadri> soroush, will catch you after lunch
[09:52] <RenaKunisaki> but OK, thanks for all the help, see you later
[09:52] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, am in india its 2:30 pm here
[09:52] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, thanks if you think i helped,
[09:52] <soroush> arvind_khadri: now users-admin can be run well. thanks  arvind_khadri, till when should I wait?
[09:53] <arvind_khadri> soroush, half an hour or so
[09:53] <soroush> ok. thanks
[09:53] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki, catch you later
[09:53] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, bye
[09:55] <broonsparrow> thanks
[09:55] <RenaKunisaki> ah, I'm still getting "cannot resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com" but I can see it in my browser
[09:56] <newbieu> how can i identify the class name of  alt+tab window , to remove it from window decorations
[09:56] <RenaKunisaki> network is unreachable, hm
[09:56] <newbieu> every time i use alt+tab my emerald crashes
[09:56] <zvacet> RenaKunisaki:change it to the main server
[09:56] <RenaKunisaki> zvacet, what's the address?
[09:57] <zvacet> RenaKunisaki: archive.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Johnson> how do i view local vnc servers?
[09:58] <zero__> hey can anyonhe help me with crossover install problems?
[09:58] <echo_mirage> is there a good tool for modellung petri-nets or automatons ?
[09:59] <Fastly> if i download the hardy beta, will it upgrade automatically to the final release in 5 days, or are there any reasons to wait until the final release?
[09:59] <zero__> im installing the DEB of crossover office, and this is my second time doing so, this time around, after the install, there isnt a crossover menu in applications
[09:59] <Fastly> the system isn't mission critical...
[09:59] <Fastly> sorry
[09:59] <Fastly> didn't mean will it upgrade... when it updates
[10:01] <zvacet> zero__ : look under system tools
[10:01] <zero__> hey, when i install crossover, there isnt a crossover menu in the applications Menu anymore! can anyone help me fix this PLEASE
[10:02] <zero__> zvacet, it isnt there
[10:02] <Blastur> can anyone recommend an alternative to Nautilus that is more like Windows Explorer? Or, how to configure Nautilus to be more like Windows Explorer. I specifically want a directory tree on the left
[10:02] <zero__> Blastur, try installing Konqueror
[10:03] <_urlwolf__> can you assign your back and forward buttons in your mouse to switch tabs in your terminal (e.g., console, xvfe)?
[10:04] <zvacet> zero__ : if you installed it correctly make launcher
[10:05] <zero__> zvacet, im pretty sure i installed it correctly, its pretty hard to fuck up a deb file
[10:05] <jussio1> !ohmy | zero__
[10:05] <ubotu> zero__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:05] <zvacet> zero__ : then try type in terminal and see what happened
[10:05] <zero__> sorry, my mistake
[10:06] <zero__> what do i do in the terminal
[10:06] <Oprtz> when i play a video file in totem player on any other player installed in ubuntu 7.10, it says " unable to play the file, need plugins to handle the file)
[10:06] <zvacet> zero__ type the name corossover or what is full name of app
[10:07] <bazhang> Oprtz: could you pastebin your sources.list please
[10:08] <Fastly> hey guys... anyone know if there are any specific reasons to wait for hardy release rather than downloading the beta and updating...?
[10:08] <foo-nix> Dear reader, I have a problem playing soiund. I am using kubuntu and when running amarok to play something, I get a message that my audio device is busy (xine could not initiate audio drivers for that reason). Other sound play software also state this (even the ubuntu sound configuration applet. Does someone know how I can get my sound working?
[10:08] <balleyne> Fastly: stability, as it's technically not released yet, but... that's hardly a concern since it's basically there, the release candidate is out... I went for it
[10:09] <zero__> zvacet, command not found
[10:09] <zero__> but its installed, i can see it there
[10:09] <zero__> its in /opt/cxoffice
[10:09] <zvacet> zero__ :then make launcher and under command put that path and it should work
[10:10] <zero__> ok, thanks
[10:10] <dahlia> I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop 7.10 in VirtualBox. It keeps coming up in 800x600 mode even though I go into the vga and select 1024x768. and the install menus are too big for the screen at 800x600. Is there a way I can make it go into a larger resolution, or install in text mode?
[10:10] <balleyne> Just upgraded to Hardy and I have an issue with Firefox, pretty sure it's leftover from some crap that Automatix did to my system a while back... basically, I think /usr/bin/firefox is linked to the wrong place since I'd had to adjust that manually to fix Automatix's mess. Can someone tell me what /usr/bin/firefox should be linked to in a standard Hardy install?
[10:10] <RenaKunisaki> ok, I did apt-get install nvidia-glx and got a bunch of errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63688/
[10:10] <RenaKunisaki> also one line to stderr: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:10] <zvacet> zero__ You can try this command to be sure where is locate crossover
[10:11] <zero__> thanks zvacet
[10:12] <bazhang> !hardy | balleyne
[10:12] <ubotu> balleyne: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:12] <balleyne> bazhang: thanks, I was just checking that
[10:13] <icesword> hardy=buggy, lol
[10:13] <Oprt1>  when i play a video file in totem player on any other player installed in ubuntu 7.10, it says " unable to play the file, need plugins to handle the file)
[10:13] <bazhang> Oprt1: please pastebin your sources.list
[10:14] <Oprt1> bazhang:  what is the website of pastebin please?
[10:14] <bazhang> !paste > Oprt1
[10:14] <Oprt1> !paste
[10:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:14] <xircx> im having issues with the nividia geforce 7900 gs drivers can eny one help me
[10:15] <croddy_> xircx, can you describe the symptoms please
[10:15] <xircx> when i load glxgears
[10:15] <xircx> i get this error
[10:15] <xircx> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:15] <xircx> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[10:16] <croddy> oh please don't paste a whole bunch of lines
[10:16] <Oprt1> bazhang:  what is source list? i simply get an error while playing video file
[10:16] <Blastur> if I install xubuntu, can I still install all apps? or are some specific to ubuntu/kubuntu?
[10:16] <croddy> are you on the vesa driver perhaps, xircx?
[10:16] <Oprt1> do i capture screen, with print screen command ?
[10:16] <xircx> no im on the nevida drivers
[10:16] <bazhang> Oprt1: /etc/apt/sources.list pastebin that please
[10:17] <Oprt1> bazhang:  ok thanks
[10:17] <bazhang> Oprt1: you can install pastebinit and then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[10:18] <foo-nix> I have had several problems with my sound and ubuntu on different machines (same problem), is there something ubuntu 7.10 has such that sound is less stable? My machines range from old and crapy hardware to new and fancy hardware
[10:18] <xircx> iDriver		"nvidia"
[10:18] <mactimes> Hi.  I tried the #iptables channel, but it seems the only person awake there can't help me out.  Could someone experienced in iptables take a look at this and help me out? http://pastebin.ca/989396
[10:19] <Oprt1> bazhang:  when i want to pen source.list it open a seperate window
[10:19] <Oprt1> how can i include the window in pastebin ?
[10:19] <bazhang> Oprt1: install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit just like that
[10:20] <Oprt1> bazhang:  i am sorrry if i bother u?  how to install pastebinit? from ADD/remove section?
[10:21] <foo-nix> And, when downloading an older release of ubuntu, can I have an up to dat kernel, i.e. one without the root exploit.
[10:21] <bazhang> Oprt1: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:21] <Oprt1> bazhang: thanks
[10:21] <bazhang> foo-nix: which version
[10:21] <foo-nix> bazhang: Now I have 7.1, and I would like to downgrade to 6.* or 7.4
[10:22] <Oprt1> bazhang:  there is error message in terminal
[10:22] <foo-nix> *7.4
[10:22] <foo-nix> *7.04
[10:22] <bazhang> Oprt1: what message
[10:22] <Oprt1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:22] <Oprt1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:22] <bazhang> Oprt1: close add/remove and try again
[10:22] <Oprt1> ok
[10:23] <croddy> people callin it add/remove makes me sad
[10:23] <croddy> people callin it system tray makes me sad
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> where is the ipod channel?
[10:23] <Oprt1> bazhang:  its installed :) now what to do ?
[10:23] <Comrade-Sergei> or more specifically whaere is the iphone channel
[10:24] <bazhang> Oprt1: scroll up and look at the command
[10:24] <gogeta> croddy err isnt it called add/remove
[10:24] <bazhang> ##apple Comrade-Sergei
[10:24] <gogeta> croddy ok systray is called the gnome panel applet
[10:24] <Oprt1> ok
[10:24] <Comrade-Sergei> i need the one for hacking
[10:24] <bazhang> Comrade-Sergei: not here
[10:24] <Oprt1> http://paste.stgraber.org/2640
[10:24] <foo-nix> bazhang: I dunno kernel versions but are there restrictions on the ekrnel versions one uses depending on the release of ubuntu, i.e. can I completely update my kernel in a 6.* install?
[10:25] <Comrade-Sergei> bazhang, im trying to get ssh to work with linux
[10:25] <Comrade-Sergei> bazhang, to the ipod more specifically
[10:25] <Oprt1> bazhang:  http://paste.stgraber.org/2640
[10:26] <dahlia> can someone tell me how I can install if ubunbu 7.1 refuses to start in a resolution greater than 800x600? the install menus wont fit on the screen and I cant click the buttons because they are off screen
[10:26] <foo-nix> dahlia: maybe choose textinstall, I am not suee ubuntu offers it.
[10:26] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know the ipod touch/iphone channel?
[10:26] <bazhang> Oprt1: you need to disable the cd as a  software source and enable the others; /msg ubotu gutsysources for more info
[10:26] <foo-nix> *sure
[10:26] <dahlia> I dont see a textinstall
[10:27] <foo-nix> dahlia: sorry, I was just guessing
[10:27] <bazhang> dahlia: text install from the live cd? or you want the alternate cd which is text based
[10:27] <xircx> ok in my geforce settings pannle in the glx tab i get this "Fail to query the GLX server vendor."
[10:27] <dahlia> whatever will install it
[10:27] <Oprt1> bazhang:  thank u very much for ur time and help
[10:28] <fluteflute> dahilia: try pressing Alt and dragging the windows so you can see the buttons
[10:28] <foo-nix> dahlia:is the screen reso of your live cd 80x60?
[10:28] <foo-nix> *800x600
[10:28] <bazhang> Oprt1: once that is done, then you need to sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:28] <rubystallion> How can I configure which WLANs should be automatically connected to?
[10:28] <dahlia> I dont know its the install cd from the ubuntu web site
[10:29] <foo-nix> tried changing the resolution using right mouseclick on the desktop?
[10:29] <foo-nix> dahlia: ^
[10:29] <fudus4> is it possible to turn desktop effects on in a livecd session?
[10:29] <fudus4> with a geforce 8600gt
[10:29] <bazhang> fudus4: very limited ones are on by default
[10:30] <dahlia> no resolution option when right clicking the desktop
[10:30] <dahlia> the resolution selector from the system menu maxes out at 800x600
[10:30] <xircx> what dose Fail to query the GLX server vendor mean am i missing files
[10:31] <fudus4> well compositioning isn't working, because i can see ghosting
[10:31] <dahlia> and the computer has no problems running at 1680x1050 with xp
[10:31] <bazhang> dahlia: well the vm will not use the same drivers
[10:31] <Oprt1> bazhang:  i follow ubotu and uncheck the options he told me, but still couldn't play video files?
[10:32] <GDG> hola
[10:32] <GDG> HAY ALGUIEN POR AQUÍ?
[10:32] <bazhang> Oprt1: then you need to sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and finally sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:32] <dahlia> so I cant install?
[10:32] <bazhang> !es | GDG
[10:32] <ubotu> GDG: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:33] <bazhang> dahlia: what is the host os? windows?
[10:33] <dahlia> xp
[10:33] <GDG> THAnk you!!
[10:33] <bazhang> dahlia: then you might ask in #vbox not sure how windows does it
[10:33] <dahlia> I've done this before on a different xp host with no problems, using the same cd
[10:34] <Oprt1> bazhang:  ty i will try
[10:34] <dahlia> k thanks for your ideas
[10:34] <sharperguy> how do i rename a filename beginning with "-" from the command line (it always thinks its an option flag)?
[10:34] <bazhang> dahlia: sounds like exclusively a windows problem
[10:34] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone ssh into an iphone or ipod touch here"
[10:35] <Starnestommy> sharperguy: mv -- filename new-filename
[10:35] <bazhang> Comrade-Sergei: this is the wrong channel as I have mentioned before
[10:35] <sharperguy> ok ty
[10:35] <Comrade-Sergei> bazhang, whell what is
[10:35] <bazhang> Comrade-Sergei: not here
[10:35] <Comrade-Sergei> bazhang, ...
[10:36] <mumu> which is the most common program for internet radio listening in linux, similar to winamp?
[10:36] <bazhang> mumu using shoutcast?
[10:36] <ttkeppi> mumu: i recommend amarok
[10:37] <dtamas> dell wireless wifi for laptop is how?
[10:38] <dtamas> ndiswrapper of fw-cutter?
[10:38] <bazhang> dtamas: which card and chipset
[10:38] <fourvees> #ilugc
[10:38] <dtamas> broadcom 1390
[10:38] <william> join ##linux
[10:39] <bazhang> !broadcom > dtamas please read the message from ubotu
[10:39] <dtamas>  Dell Inspiron E1505 Wireless
[10:39] <foo-nix> As earlier mentioned my sound wont work. When using the oss drver in the amarok engine settings tab, I can play music, but wont hear it. Any ideas?
[10:39] <fourvees> thanks william and sorry for that
[10:41] <magnetron> foo-nix: you should use alsa. OSS will only support one audio source at once
[10:42] <Valtiel-I> есть русскоговорящие ?
[10:43] <Exteris> !ru | Valtiel-I
[10:43] <bazhang> !ru | Valtiel-I
[10:43] <ubotu> Valtiel-I: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:43] <soroush> how can i change places menu content in gnome?
[10:43] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know how to make network manager automatically configured a bluetooth PAN (client) connection? It detects it, and will configure it if selected.... would like it to be automatic
[10:43] <foo-nix> magnetron: I know, but alsa will make xine output that the device is busy, and then refuses to use it.
[10:43] <Valtiel-I> ubotu: я почемуто там забанен
[10:43] <foo-nix> magnetron: I tried to egt music with as little as possible frameworks between.
[10:43] <Valtiel-I> обяснений мне недали
[10:43] <Valtiel-I> (((
[10:44] <Valtiel-I> а очень нужна помощ
[10:44] <foo-nix> !ru
[10:44] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:44] <foo-nix> !ru | Valtiel-I
[10:44] <ubotu> Valtiel-I: please see above
[10:44] <bazhang> Valtiel-I: /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:44] <Valtiel-I> bazhang: я там забанен
[10:44] <bazhang> english please Valtiel-I
[10:44] <Valtiel-I> i was banned there
[10:44] <soroush> chazco: what do you mean you'd like it to be automatic?
[10:44] <foo-nix> Valtiel-I: /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:44] <rubystallion> On startup I get a message that the X keyboard settings differ from my gnome settings. How can I adjust my gnome settings to be equal to my X settings?
[10:44] <Valtiel-I> i don't know what ?
[10:45] <Valtiel-I> (((
[10:45] <foo-nix> Valtiel-I: why did people ban you there?
[10:45] <Valtiel-I> i dont know
[10:45] <magnetron> foo-nix: if xine says "device is busy", then you must already be running an OSS app. that will block the soundcard until you quit that app. there's a reason ALSA was made :D
[10:45] <chazco> soroush - Currently i have to select the bluetooth (configured) connection when its created before it gets an IP etc, would like the network manager to automatically get it... tried some dbus commands with no luck
[10:45] <Starnestommy> Valtiel-I: I think you can ask about it in #ubuntu-irc
[10:45] <Valtiel-I> i just on my computer and i can't to connect
[10:46] <scheuri> anyone on hardy already and haveing troubles with network settings being stored persistent (dns server)?
[10:46] <Randomtime> Valtiel-I you can't to connect to what?
[10:46] <techsta> hey all, anyone got any good game sites ?
[10:46] <foo-nix> magnetron: could that be kmix? btw, when choosing oss in amarok it will plays tuff, but I wotn hear it. Is that the normall way for oss to say it's busy?
[10:46] <Randomtime> scheuri run in command prompt ipconfig -flushdns
[10:46] <Randomtime> techsta: as in sites to play games or wikis about games
[10:47] <techsta> ubuntu compatible games :)
[10:47] <Valtiel-I> [13:29:45] CTCP VERSION запрос от freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] (VERSION), ответ
[10:47] <Valtiel-I> [13:29:46] #ubuntu-ru: You're banned from that channe
[10:47] <scheuri> Randomtime: uh? ipconfig? ;)
[10:47] <magnetron> foo-nix: maybe. i never get any errors with OSS, but i seldom get sound either :D
[10:47] <Valtiel-I> why ?
[10:47] <Starnestommy> Valtiel-I: /j #ubuntu-irc and ask there
[10:47] <Randomtime> it's just #ubuntu isn't it
[10:47] <foo-nix> magnetron: I miss my sound, how to make homework without it ^^
[10:47] <scheuri> techsta: on ubuntuforums.org is a dedicated part about linux games...
[10:47] <l33et> moin
[10:47] <Valtiel-I> help me with virtualbox
[10:48] <bod_> Valtiel-I, discuss bans relating to #ubuntu-?!? rooms in #ubuntu-ops
[10:48] <magnetron> foo-nix: make sure to switch all your apps to ALSA
[10:48] <scheuri> techsta: there are many good games out there (for free as well as one you need to pay)
[10:48] <techsta> Randomtime: thanks
[10:48] <foo-nix> magnetron: I'm checking my processes now.
[10:48] <Valtiel-I> he's can't see my sata dvd-rom
[10:48] <Valtiel-I> (((
[10:48] <magnetron> Valtiel-I: did you ask in #ubuntu-ops why you are banned?
[10:48] <l33et> is the RC of ubuntu 8.04 ready to connect to wlans encrypted with wpa2-psk which doesn´t roam its ssid ?
[10:49] <l33et> with 7.10 it was very uncofortable, had to use keyring etc
[10:49] <arvind_khadri> soroush, you around??
[10:49] <techsta> scheuri: thanks i am looking for urls :) i do have limitation of 3d support due to vmware :)
[10:49] <magnetron> l33et: ubuntu 7.04 and beyond supports wpa2-psk, but the keyring is here to stay
[10:49] <soroush> arvind_khadri: hey  again
[10:49] <soroush> wb arvind_khadri
[10:49] <bod_> techsta, theres a forum thread about games on ubuntu forums
[10:50] <techsta> bod_: cheers mate
[10:50] <arvind_khadri> soroush, whats your problem....
[10:50] <scheuri> techsta: ah, I see...well there are some which will not need 3d...
[10:50] <soroush> arvind_khadri: to remember:
[10:50] <bod_> techsta, no probs ;~)
[10:50] <soroush> mue has quit ()
 Hi, when I insert a cd/dvd , it was not automatically mounted even if I clicked on the recognised CD/DVD icon, so I tried changing /etc/sudoers and changed it as you can see it here, now it can be mounted via terminal using sudo mount /dev/cdrom but it can't be mounted in Gnome either. I had similar problems with running programs like users-admin via gui and I saw an error saying
[10:50] <soroush>  XAutorization file couldn't be copied
[10:50] <soroush>  I could solve the last problem by running XServer scripts mode in user login
[10:50] <soroush>  but the first problem has still remained
[10:50] <FloodBot3> soroush: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <soroush>  my config files:
[10:50] <soroush> d
[10:51] <tomolds> When I first load X after a restart my resolution is as I had set it but it only shows it square and not filling the full width of the screen. In order to change this I must change the resolution and then re-set it to what I had for it to  occupy the whole screen. Any ideas?
[10:52] <arvind_khadri> soroush, seems like you are not there in the admin group
[10:52] <bod_> tomolds, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] <foo-nix> magnetron: esd is like alsa, i.e. only one of them should be used, right?
[10:52] <magnetron> foo-nix: no
[10:52] <magnetron> foo-nix: use any of them.
[10:52] <foo-nix> magnetron: I shut down kmix and swapped amarok to alsa, now music is playing, only it can not be heard.
[10:52] <arvind_khadri> soroush, jus boot into recovery and issue adduser <username> admin
[10:53] <foo-nix> magnetron: but esound is a framework just like alsa, wont they conflict?
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> soroush, then log back into X
[10:53] <soroush> arvind_khadri: http://nopaste.com/p/a8jFavEEU
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> soroush, jus boot into recovery and issue adduser <username> admin
[10:53] <magnetron> foo-nix: they won't conflict if you set esound to use alsa
[10:53] <bod_> foo-nix, do u have more then 1 sound device? eg, a sound card and onboard sound ?
[10:53] <foo-nix> bod_: No, I ahve one onboard card (laptop
[10:53] <soroush> arvind_khadri: it's not the problem. I can do anything through command line except su however I can do sudo
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> soroush, can you do sudo -s
[10:54] <foo-nix> Some time ago I did some kernel module stuff to fix a ubuntu bug on sound, but it did not work.
[10:54] <foo-nix> I had the same problem then (never got to fix it)
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> soroush, the terminal should turn to #
[10:54] <l33et> thx for no answer
[10:55] <bod_> l33et, u were given an answer
[10:55] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I'm already in admin group and even I can run sudo users-admin but sudo -s doesn't work
[10:55] <gregory> !attitude | l33et
[10:55] <ubotu> l33et: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> soroush, ok then run sudo users-admin
[10:56] <soroush> arvind_khadri: http://nopaste.com/p/ab0O0zymT
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> soroush, there click on the account you want to edit
[10:56] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I can login to root terminal
[10:56] <l33et> my question again: do i have to type the password for wlan everytime i connect ?
[10:56] <bod_> l33et, no
[10:56] <bod_> !gq
[10:56] <ubotu> Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.
[10:56] <soroush> arvind_khadri: doing
[10:56] <l33et> winXp automatically detects if wlan is avaible and connects itsels
[10:57] <tuntun> Hi. I have a second partition that I mount only every so-often. When I browse through a folder with mixed contents, the 'Type' column only changes to the correct type when I highlight a file. This means that before I can sort by the type column I must first highlight over every file by holding the down arrow. This doesn't seem right. In addition, when I leave the folder and return the 'Type' column data has not been retained. What Is causing this problem?
[10:57] <l33et> but in ubuntu it won´t when ssid broadcast was disabled
[10:57] <bod_> l33et, linux is not windows -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> soroush, then click on the properties,then open the user priveleges under that
[10:57] <l33et> u r so clever
[10:57] <Oprtz> bazhang:  after using the commands (sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras) its installed and now a new window in terminal (configuring sun java 6bin) is open asking to click OK, i press enter many times but i am ubable to press ok in the terminal... wha to do ? close the terminal? if i close terminal the downloading process will stop ?
[10:57] <bod_> l33et, thankyou
[10:58] <l33et> quit
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, you need to type y
[10:58] <soroush> arvind_khadri: i have all previleges
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> soroush, thats strange
[10:59] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  i tried y but there is another blue and gray window open in terminal (pakacge configuration , sun java )
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> soroush, what exactly do you want to do now
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, try O
[10:59] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I worked for solving this problem more than 7 hours last night
[11:00] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I want to have a sane desktop
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, is it a ncurses interface
[11:00] <noob-africa> hi all
[11:00] <G-Oker> Hello all
[11:00] <soroush> arvind_khadri: my desktop is insane. I have to do manythings from terminal
[11:00] <noob-africa> is there anyone in here familiar with joomla 1.5.2?
[11:01] <arvind_khadri> soroush, hmm well i really cant picture what you are trying to do....are you unhappy that cd isnt mounting automatically
[11:02] <soroush> arvind_khadri: i'm angry with cd problem! I have to go to command line to mount it
[11:02] <McLovin> I am new to Ubuntu, and I decided to install it today, because the new canidate release. How should I partition my hard drive? I'm plannin to use 10gb for Ubuntu alone. I read I need home, ext3 and such. Anybody?
[11:02] <arvind_khadri> soroush, you said you have problems with gnome,what problem
[11:02] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  after using the command , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it was 34mb pakage, and it ask me abt the font in same blue and gray window, i press enter and it disapear and now new window blue and gray but i am unable to press OK, to go to next stage, can i close the terminal? will it stop downloading proces?
[11:02] <kaminix^> Has anyone else noted something strange with networking since upgrading to Hardy? Like an 'it all being kinda slow'-sortof thing. Worked fine before I upgraded yesterday :s
[11:02] <G-Oker> could some possibly help me get a Mercury KOB WL540 802.11g 54mbp pcmcia card to work under Gusty? I can use my Netear card fine, but I'm having trouble with the Mecury one
[11:02] <noob-africa> how do i install templates for joomla 1.5.2?
[11:03] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I have to use command line to launch software managers. I have to do all of them in terminal also I have gnome desktop installed
[11:03] <noob-africa> G-Oker: did u try google first?
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, that blue and gray window is ncurses :) try navigating using the keyboard
[11:03] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I can run sudo mount /dev/cdrom in terminal but
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> soroush, is it 7.10??
[11:04] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  :) i am not good in computers :)
[11:04] <soroush> I expect gnome to be able to do it
[11:04] <Hewus> I need to factor a large number with pyecm that I expect will take a few days. I would like to be able to stop/resume this process when required (eg shutting down). Is this possible?
[11:04] <G-Oker> yer, lost of windows drives, but nothing to help me re: Gusty
[11:04] <soroush> arvind_khadri: it is 7.10 and it worked well 1 months ago
[11:04] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: wow its done
[11:04] <Oprtz> thanks
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> soroush, gnome doesnt do that nautilus does it
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, thats ok....most of the people get stuck in ncurses ;)
[11:05] <noob-africa> G-Oker: well, do this on the google search window - ubuntu: [then put your keyword here]
[11:05] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, i too used too ;) :D
[11:05] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  :)
[11:05] <noob-africa> !joomla 1.5
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla 1.5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <G-Oker> Tried that, but I got no joy, except ref: to this IRC channel
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> soroush, what changes did you do to the system??
[11:06] <slax> bonjour à tous
[11:06] <jpatrick> !fr | slax
[11:06] <ubotu> slax: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:06] <slax> ok merci
[11:07] <McLovin> mclovin
[11:07] <soroush> arvind_khadri: not any special thing I can remember. the problem arises since I backed up my system and extracted it to the new partition
[11:07] <noob-africa> G-Oker: am also a newbie... so i really am not that much help
[11:07] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  Mr bazhang told me to install all the updrages , because i am facing problem to open a video and audio files, it disapaer when i tried to play or simply show a message , cant play the file, i hope after installing the pakage my problem will solve
[11:07] <soroush> arvind_khadri: but the problems have been increased since then
[11:07] <G-Oker> Thanks for trying to help though. sorry I can't help with your prob
[11:07] <soroush> arvind_khadri: I solved some problems for example by assigning previleges myselft
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm that might work not sure though ;)
[11:08] <soroush> arvind_khadri: for example I ran chmod 1777 /tmp
[11:08] <roffe__> I tried running alienarena, and it says I lack libcurl.so.3. So I might as well learn how to install libraries in general
[11:08] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ohh :( then what to do? i am tired :(
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, didnt the upgrade help you??
[11:09] <CaT_MaNz> hello all. I have a strange problem with my gnome. When i minimize my firefox it log out and go to login screen. This problem appears on my laptop and my desktop. What is wrong?
[11:09] <arvind_khadri> soroush, did you change the partitons
[11:09] <roffe__> "./crx: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:09] <arvind_khadri> CaT_MaNz, do a ram test...seems like a memory leak
[11:09] <roffe__> that's what it says
[11:10] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri: NO, :( and now i get the same error msg.. ( Totem could not play 'file:///media/disk/Sword Fish/Cd 2.DAT'.)
[11:10] <soroush> arvind_khadri: even I have made sudoer files by hand because it was lost. I need some more permissions to be changed. I changed the partition. extended it . formated it with ext2 and then I installed kernel again
[11:10] <soroush> to be able to use the new partition , arvind_khadri
[11:10] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, aah for that you need to have plugins... :)
[11:10] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  do u name plugins plz
[11:10] <tuntun> soroush, have you tried System > Preferences > Removable-Drives-and-Media ?
[11:10] <soroush> I extracted all my previous tar files from my last system to the new partition
[11:11] <arvind_khadri> soroush, there seems to be a lot of changes....i feel a re-install will solve it all
[11:11] <zaputr> Please, help me, i can not to configurate my modem,  after "WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt."  "WvDial<Notice>: Don't know what to do"!!!
[11:11] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:11] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  do uknow the deault players for ubuntu 7.10 when freshly isntalled ? can u plz name them, i want to uncheke all the software and try the default players, maybe it help
[11:12] <soroush> arvind_khadri: :( I have done all of them to avoid new install
[11:12] <CaT_MaNz> arvind_khadri, no man.. there is no ram errors.. and this problem is on both (desktop and laptop) PCs which i use.. and every time when i minimize firefox my ram fails ? i don't think so
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, install the good and the bad set same way by replacing
[11:12] <soroush> tuntun: for data cds it runs nautilus --no-desktop burn:
[11:12] <McLovin> I am new to Ubuntu, and I decided to install it today, because the new canidate release. How should I partition my hard drive? I'm plannin to use 10gb for Ubuntu alone. I read I need home, ext3 and such. Anybody?
[11:12] <soroush> and it says auto mount to be done arvind_khadri
[11:12] <Oprtz> its install sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:13] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, yeah correct
[11:13] <roffe__> I fixed it by myself.. thanks a lot for the "help"
[11:13] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ur usung ubuntu 7.10?
[11:13] <soroush> but when I click on cd icon it says: Unable to mount the volume 'Ubuntu 7.10 i386'. , tuntun , arvind_khadri
[11:13] <fearl> McLovin: I'd recommend for starters, 3gb for / and the rest for /home ... that way you can always keep your user data through installs etc
[11:13] <soroush> the detail is : I'm not superuser arvind_khadri, tuntun
[11:14] <Oprtz> i want u guys to tell me the cheke marks infront of software in VIDEO /SOUNDS section , when newly installed ubuntu
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> soroush, do you want to use the ubuntu cd??
[11:14] <tuntun> soroush, have you tried System > Preferences > Removable-Drives-and-Media: option:'mount removable media when insterted'...just a guess.
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, totem,rythmbox,serpentine
[11:14] <soroush> arvind_khadri: it is ubuntu cd now but that problem is for all cds
[11:15] <arvind_khadri> soroush, aah just re-install man ...cant think of anything else
[11:15] <soroush> tuntun: yes all of them are set well
[11:15] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ok i will uncheke all of them
[11:15] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, what exactly do you want to do??
[11:15] <soroush> arvind_khadri: thanks for your help :) when will ubuntu 8 will be released?
[11:15] <fearl> soroush: www.ubuntu.com has a countdown.
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> soroush, am sorry couldnt help you ...in 6 days
[11:16] <soroush> great. I'll wait for it
[11:16] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  i am unable to play videos and audios after installing plugins and before the video quality was poor, but now i cant play a video and audio file too :(
[11:16] <TuxPWNZ> Guys, does anyone have an idea where or how to get new radio streams?
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, install the good and bad set too
[11:17] <Ponny> TuxPWNZ, shoutcast.com
[11:17] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  what is good and bad set ? i dont understand
[11:17] <Ponny> TuxPWNZ, but wtf has this to do with ubuntu?! i dont get it
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[11:17] <qwerku1> hello all: is it possible to turn off swap memory, to avoid hours of nearly freezing when hardware memory max is reached ?
[11:17] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ok dear, letme try
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, :)
[11:18] <zaputr> Please, help me, i can not to configurate my modem,  after "WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt."  "WvDial<Notice>: Don't know what to do"!!!
[11:18] <fearl> Oprtz: Instead of what arvind_khadri said, you can just install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' ... that way the package management system will update things for you seamlessly.
[11:18] <simu> hello, I just started my computer and after I logged on there is not application bar at the top
[11:18] <matrix|ab> anyone use a dell i8600 laptop and tested new ubuntu?
[11:18] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  :'( same problem
[11:18] <simu> last thing I did was updateing my computer
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> CaT_MaNz, well i too faced the same prob....that happens when memory leaks
[11:19] <simu> I can see the desktop and its icons thought
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> fearl, didnt knew :) thanks
[11:19] <Oprtz> fearl:  from where i install restricted extras?
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm wierd
[11:19] <carpet_the_walls> i have a really tricky command line problem i need help with please, i have 2 directory trees (with files), and i want to replace one tree with the other including all files apart from those files called .svn, is this possible with cp?
[11:20] <XVT> hey
[11:20] <fearl> Oprtz: It is in the 'restricted' area of Ubuntu, but is enabled by default I believe... so just 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[11:20] <bloutouffe> hi
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> carpet_the_walls, jus read man cp
[11:21] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  the first day when i install ubuntu when i play a video file it download some plugin by itself and the video was very good but now i cant play it
[11:21] <Oprtz> fearl:  its done, but cant play the video :(
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm once restart totem
[11:21] <fearl> Oprtz: Does it say anything about why?
[11:21] <bloutouffe> wrong room, does anyone know where I can find a french room for ubuntu ?
[11:21] <fearl> Oprtz: also try 'gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg'
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> !fr
[11:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:22] <Oprtz> fearl:  Totem could not play 'file:///media/disk/Sword Fish/Cd 2.DAT'.)
[11:22] <bloutouffe> thanks
[11:23] <fearl> Oprtz: DVD? Ahh, you have to "Open Location" and type 'dvd://'
[11:23] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  my ubuntu machine is running perfectly except video and audio
[11:23] <Oprtz> yes same
[11:23] <CaT_MaNz> arvind_khadri, man its some kind of bug.. it not memory leak.. it is not possible to fail ONLY (and only) the memory where is the minimize function of the firefox on my BOTH workstations ... it sounds a little stupid to think that is some kind of big concurrence
[11:23] <Sinnerman> hi. i made the mistake of creating a smb mount Places -> Connect to server, now, it's left an icon on the desktop that just won't go away. besides which the share was invalid and never worked. how do i go about ridding myself of this? i unmount it, but at log-on, it reappears.
[11:23] <fearl> Sinnerman: right click > Unmount
[11:23] <Oprtz> fearl:  2 days back, the video was playing but disapear when it stars
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hey found the codecs :)
[11:24] <Habbotom> Hey
[11:24] <fearl> Sinnerman: also, check /media or /mnt and unmount those things as root
[11:24] <Sinnerman> fearl: that is _exactly_ what i did, but on logging on again, it reappeared.
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, for .dat you need to do this sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:24] <Sinnerman> fearl: what you said first.
[11:24]  * Habbotom dances for no reason
[11:24] <fearl> arvind_khadri: no! w32codecs doesn't include anything about DVD's at all.
[11:25] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  and what abt .mpeg, dvd, etc?
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> fearl, its .dat
[11:25] <Oprtz> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:25] <fearl> Oprtz: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly will do dvd's
[11:26] <CaT_MaNz> arvind_khadri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4505619 .. again ram leak ?
[11:27] <arvind_khadri> CaT_MaNz, report a bug
[11:27] <Oprtz> guys can i sent my logs to u guys, maybe it help? now where is the log file and how to send it to u, lol (another problem) :)
[11:27] <CaT_MaNz> ok. can i read somewhere how can i make report... it will be my first bug report
[11:28] <arvind_khadri> !bug
[11:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:28] <CaT_MaNz> !bug
[11:28] <CaT_MaNz> k 10x
[11:28] <nevio> ciao a tutti!
[11:29] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:29] <tuntun> how can I drag a selection rectangle in nuatilus?
[11:29] <Pupeno> Can I expect this kind of stuff to work with Ubuntu: http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341964  ? an external DVD±RW burner (LG DVD±RW burner, GSA-E60L, Dual, LightScribe, USB, External Black Retail)
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hey go here http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36799
[11:29] <vinconzo> how do i set up my xorg.conf to use the Composite-out as my standard tv-standard?
[11:29] <zaputr> Please, help me, i can not to configurate my modem,  after "WvDial<*1>: Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt."  "WvDial<Notice>: Don't know what to do"!!!
[11:30] <vinconzo> rephrase
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, you need to get plugins from the multiverse too :) forgot it
[11:30] <tomolds> Is anybody using a GeForce 5600 FX Graphics Card, what driver are you using? I am having major problems.
[11:30] <CaT_MaN> lol... its happened right now!... i logged out because of firefox minimize
[11:30] <vinconzo> how do i set up my xorg.conf to use the Composite-out as my standard monitor?
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> CaT_MaN, i too used to face it
[11:30] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  letme read the website
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> CaT_MaN, i did a ram test and things are fine now ;)
[11:31] <CaT_MaN> can i see some kind of error log .. where can i see what is wrong to my gnome or X server.. when i minimize firefox
[11:31] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  its not works for me
[11:32] <Sinnerman> regarding that problem i have with the 'shortcut' that points to a nonexistent share, and that i've now discovered is therefore not mounted, does anyone know how to get rid of the shortcut in question?
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, well i want you to do this sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[11:33] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ok
[11:33] <PupUsera8a72a> Mornin' . . . I've run into some problems installing Ubuntu Studio from the DVD.
[11:34] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  done !
[11:34] <Oprtz> letme cheke the video file
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, yeah
[11:34] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  Damn~ ~ ! :( it sucks
[11:34] <Oprtz> it makes me crazy
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm :(
[11:35] <Oprtz> anyway thanks for ur help, arvind_khadri
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, are you sleeping??
[11:35] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  raelly appreciate it
[11:35] <ExT-> can anyone help me?
[11:35] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  no man
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, :) thanks so why are you quitting??
[11:35] <bod_> ExT-, maybe, depends what the problem is ;~)
[11:35] <Oprtz> because i lost hope :)
[11:36] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, aah you cant loose so easily it has to work
[11:36] <carpet_the_walls> i have a really tricky command line problem i need help with please, i have 2 directory trees (with files), and i want to replace one tree with the other including all files apart from those files called .svn, is this possible with cp?
[11:36] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, will get back to you soon ;)
[11:36] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  i thought i am bothering u , asking so many questions
[11:36] <ExT-> bod_ it must be a very simple problem. the things is I am a begginer. I downloaded an .iso with a live CD to try Ubuntu
[11:36] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ty dude
[11:36] <bod_> ExT-, ok, no probs, where are you stuck?
[11:36] <ExT-> thing is I burned the image but when I reboot with the cd in the tray nothing happens
[11:36] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, aah i just love being here
[11:37] <ExT-> then I tried to boot the cd
[11:37] <bod_> ExT-, did you change the system bios to boot from cd before hard drive?
[11:37] <Ponny> ExT-, did you burn the image on cd or did you burn the iso-FILE on cd?
[11:37] <ExT-> bod_ no
[11:37] <ExT-> I burned the iso like an image I believe
[11:38] <bod_> ExT-, make sure your system bios boots cd's before hard drives, and take a look at what Ponny said,
[11:38] <bod_> ExT-, just change the bios and you should et the cd to boot ;~)
[11:38] <arvind_khadri> ok Oprtz lets start from the begining did you do any changes to your system...jus do one thing PM what all you did,a lot of reverse engg to be done ;)
[11:39] <bod_> arvind_khadri, lool, we spend half the time undoing things ;~)
[11:39] <ExT-> bod_ but I think I already installed something
[11:39] <arvind_khadri> bod_, :) cant help ...most of the errors crop up due to the changes
[11:39] <matrix|ab> how do i tell ubuntu to use my pcmcia soundcard
[11:39] <tuntun> Where are the bloody developers?! I want to wring them for some of their decisions!!
[11:39] <tuntun> how can I drag a selection rectangle in nuatilus?
[11:40] <bod_> ExT-, if you just wanted to try ubuntu, you can play with it while your running windows, just load the cd in windows as if it was a game and you'll et an intereactive walkthrouh type thin
[11:40] <bod_> ExT-, whhat do you mean? you installed what?
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> tuntun, that would be in #nautilus-devel ;)
[11:40] <ExT-> I did a reboot with the cd in the tray
[11:40] <ExT-> but nothing happened
[11:41] <ExT-> then I went to my computer and runned the cd
[11:41] <ExT-> and followed some steps
[11:41] <Sinnerman> ok, well, since no one's prepared to gimme an answer, i'll answer my own question. fire up gconf-editor, go to /desktop/gnome/connected_servers and delete the offending subfolder.
[11:41] <ExT-> which said
[11:42] <ExT-> "Help me boot from the cd"
[11:42] <Moppa> When i run fullscreen applications (ie games, screensaver) in ubuntu 7.10 i can see applications that are currently not in focus through the fullscreen application
[11:42] <bod_> Sinnerman, yer, thatt'l work ;~)
[11:42] <ExT-> and then something was installed, like a game
[11:42] <Moppa> anyone got an idea on how to fix?
[11:43] <arvind_khadri> Moppa, you mean you have a transparent screen
[11:43] <Sinnerman> bod_: ha ha.
[11:43] <bod_> ExT-, i dont think anything has happened, so we will start from the beginning, step 1, download the iso -- step 2 burn the image to cd, step 3 place cd in drive and reboot, step 4 change system biuos to boot from cd, step5 cd should boot
[11:43] <ExT-> ok
[11:43] <ExT-> I will try it now
[11:43] <ExT-> brb
[11:43] <PupUsera8a72a> Hi all . . . so I'm trying to install Ubuntu Studio from the DVD, and unfortunately I'm not getting very far . . . it gets to the point where it SHOULD start the installation dialogue (with the nice blue background), but it doesn't. It just hangs with the screen completely blank. The last thing the boot log shows is a line with klogd and syslogd, and then the screen flickers and goes blank.
[11:43] <PupUsera8a72a> I have tested the DVD on another computer - it works fine. So this might be a hardware problem with mine . . . ugh.
[11:43] <PupUsera8a72a> Any ideas?
[11:43] <Sinnerman> bod_: only caveat. you can't delete a 'folder' apparently.
[11:43] <arvind_khadri> bod_, a live cd from Cannonical is much better than that ;)
[11:44] <tuntun> Aaargghh....Ubuntu...so...user...unfriendly....aaarrrgghhh...
[11:44] <bloutouffe> anyone to help me for live USB from XP ?
[11:44] <Moppa> arvind_khadri - not quite. the applications behind is only visible when it updates (ie the time played in vlc, when i get a notififacion on pidgin etc)
[11:44] <bod_> Sinnerman, you can delete a folder,.,. use sudo mv to trash folder then clean the trash folder
[11:44] <Moppa> sort of flickers in
[11:44] <Sinnerman> bod_: in gconf-editor?
[11:44] <bod_> arvind_khadri, i may aree if i knew what canonical was ;~)
[11:44] <bod_> Sinnerman, no, all from terminal
[11:45] <Paavi2_0> tuntun: in which way?
[11:45] <Sinnerman> bod_: well, i was referring to an entry in gconf-editor :P.
[11:45] <arvind_khadri> Moppa, set notification for pidgin and other apps
[11:45] <arvind_khadri> bod_, i hope you know who markus shuttleworth is
[11:45] <bod_> Sinnerman, ok sorry, but on the contrary a entry in gconf is just a file/folder/entry somewhere that can be accessed throuh terminal
[11:46] <Sinnerman> it does list the entry for that shortcut, you unmount the shortcut (it's not mounted anyway, but the shortcut exists) and the entries go blank inside that...
[11:46] <bod_> arvind_khadri, yer,.,.,.ok,.,.,.,.
[11:46]  * bod_ wonders who he is
[11:46] <arvind_khadri> bod_, cannonical is the company which ships the cd to house ;)
[11:46] <Sinnerman> bod_: i'll need to look that up.
[11:46] <XVT> is anyone having a problem using update manager? it only lets me make a partial update...
[11:46] <tuntun> Paavi2_0, mime problems, trashcan problems, copying text after closing, single-click focusing, drag-selections, cancel buttons.........UUGGHHH!!
[11:46] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix | XVT
[11:46] <ubotu> XVT: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:46] <bod_> arvind_khadri, oh ok,.,. there very good people,. ;~),,,.,. but im impatient ,.,.;~)
[11:47] <bod_> Sinnerman, look what up?
[11:47] <arvind_khadri> bod_, :) i never had luck with iso's ;)
[11:47] <bod_> arvind_khadri, ive never had a problem with them ,. ;~)
[11:47] <Sinnerman> bod_: it's inside .gconf. thanks for pointing it out. it might not be necessary. i'll log out and in, to see if the problem recurs.
[11:47] <Moppa> arvind_khadri - but that is not the problem. if i run for instance vlc and then the screensaver starts i will see a change in the screensaver where the field of the time played is. and it doesn't matter which app i'm running in fullscreen or behinfd
[11:47] <bod_> Sinnerman, ok,.,. (confused)
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> Moppa seems like a gnome issue go to #gnome
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, ahh back..
[11:48] <bod_> arvind_khadri, could be compiz
[11:48] <Moppa> arvind_khadri - thansk
[11:48] <Oprtz> ty
[11:48] <Moppa> *ks
[11:49] <arvind_khadri> bod_, hey yeah
[11:49] <arvind_khadri> Moppa, do you have compiz
[11:49] <bod_> ;~)
[11:49] <ampmaniac3> hi! by default, does ubuntu uses md5 encryption for users password?
[11:49] <arvind_khadri> bod_, we should have #compiz too
[11:49] <Moppa> arvind_khadri - yes, i do
[11:49] <Oprtz> i uninstall totem player and play a video file , it asks me to download plugin for the file after downloading the plugin , i can watch video now :)
[11:49] <bod_> arvind_khadri, its #compiz-fusion
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> Moppa, hmm jus login to #compiz-fusion
[11:50] <Moppa> arvind_khadri - ok
[11:50] <alvin> hello ^^
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, so the thing finally works??
[11:50] <Sinnerman> bod_: ok, yesterday, i tried to connect to a smb share via places -> connect to server. unfortunately, whilst yet unmounted, it left a shortcut on my desktop which appeared again today after i tried unmounting that yesterday before logging off. i found an entry for it in gconf-editor, in a subfolder. i wanted to remove the subfolder. the same configuration of settings in gconf-editor can be found in ~/.gconf.
[11:50] <bod_> arvind_khadri, who is markus shuttleworth?
[11:51] <arvind_khadri> bod_, what???he is the owner of Cannonical and the one who supports Ubuntu's funding
[11:51] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  60% :) poor quality of videos :(
[11:51] <bod_> Sinnerman, a sub-folder shown in gconf editor has to be a sub-folder accesable via nautilus and terminal therefore can be deleted in the same way
[11:51] <bod_> arvind_khadri, ubuntu has funding?
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm so you are using totem??
[11:52] <Sinnerman> bod_: indeed, i was just saying where i found it :). so thanks for pointing me out that way.
[11:52] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  i hate torem player, which is thebest?
[11:52] <bod_> Sinnerman, oh, ooops,.,. i didnt know what the prob was,. lol,. yw
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> bod_, well then how do you think the non-free drivers are available to us
[11:52] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  i install kofine player too, how to uninstall it ? i also dont like it :)
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, i think VLC
[11:52] <bod_> Oprtz, erm,. vlc has all codecs pre installed,. install vlc and videos should play like a charm
[11:53] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, sudo apt-get remove kafine
[11:53] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ahh i wish i learn the terminal commands like u guys, is there anyweb site for these commands
[11:53] <bod_> arvind_khadri, never thought of it tbh,. i should thank this markus shuttleworth guy ;~)
[11:53] <stalker314314> if I upgrade like `update-manager --devel-release`, will I be switched to "normal" 8.04 once it is out?
[11:53] <Valtiel-I> i have a problem with playng a mkv media files
[11:54] <arvind_khadri> bod_, and he is planning to but the mp3 patent ;)
[11:54] <Valtiel-I> normaly playng only an anime
[11:54] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, yeah jus a min
[11:54] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  when i try to play video in VLC, it start and suddenly disapears .... why is that? ok take ur time
[11:54] <arvind_khadri> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/  Oprtz
[11:54] <bod_> Oprtz, terminal help here -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:54] <Valtiel-I> movies playng only with sound and no picture
[11:54] <bod_> arvind_khadri, whats that?
[11:55] <Oprtz> ty arvind_khadri and bob_
[11:55] <arvind_khadri> bod_, mp3 is a restricted format
[11:55] <bod_> arvind_khadri, i cant play mp3's ??
[11:55] <arvind_khadri> bod_, so thats why we cant play it out of the box as windoze does it....you need to have codecs for that
[11:55] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, does VLC crash off??
[11:55] <bod_> arvind_khadri, ah, yeah i remember readin about things like that,.,.
[11:56] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  yes dude
[11:56] <arvind_khadri> bod_, so shuttleworth has planned to give 1million dollars for the patent :)
[11:56] <bod_> arvind_khadri, i really like this uy, he is nice,.,. lol,.,. i should donate a fiver or summit ;~)
[11:57] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, ok we need to check the strace of that ... sudo strace vlc 2> vlc_error
[11:57] <stalker314314> if I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 like `update-manager --devel-release` (as said in ubuntu wiki), will I be switched to "normal" 8.04 once it is out? (it doesn't says anything there)
[11:58] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, then gedit vlc_error ,paste its content to pastebin
[11:58] <arvind_khadri> !paste | Oprtz
[11:58] <ubotu> Oprtz: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:58] <arvind_khadri> bod_, hmm yeah need to donate something to FSF too
[11:58] <bod_> arvind_khadri, whats that?
[11:58] <arvind_khadri> stalker314314, yeah
[11:58] <Sinnerman> how do i get java working with opera?
[11:59] <arvind_khadri> !FSF | bod_
[11:59] <ubotu> bod_: fsf is The Free Software Foundation. See http://www.fsf.org/
[11:59] <bod_> arvind_khadri, ty,.,. lol,. so much i dont know
[11:59] <arvind_khadri> bod_, :) nm
[12:00] <doctorow> How do I remove the spaces from the names of all the files in a directory?
[12:00] <nonewmsgs> there are bulk rename programs.  one is called called "bulk rename"
[12:01] <XVT> tnX arvind_khadri
[12:01] <arvind_khadri> doctorow, `jus read man rename
[12:02] <doctorow> arvind_khadri -- I don't know regexp -- the man page for rename assumes you do
[12:02] <doctorow> nonewmsgs Synaptic doesn't know about "bulk rename" -- where can I get it?
[12:03] <nonewmsgs> doctorow: it's in add/remove i think
[12:03] <doctorow> nonewmsgs Nope
[12:03] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  oh my its a big file, my computer hangs, takes too much time to send on pastebin website
[12:03] <BenTheMan> i have a slight problem with package
[12:03] <arvind_khadri> doctorow, cd in to the directory and issue rename 's/\ //'
[12:03] <BenTheMan> E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[12:03] <BenTheMan> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:03] <arvind_khadri> nonewmsgs, thats only found in Xfce
[12:04] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, hmm need to check that...ok mail it to arvindkhadri@gmail.com
[12:04] <arvind_khadri> Oprtz, send as a attachment
[12:04] <arvind_khadri> XVT, :) welcome
[12:04] <nonewmsgs> doctorow: check thunar.xfce.org (thats on the about page)
[12:04] <doctorow> arvind_khadri -- That worked great! Thanks!
[12:04] <Oprtz> arvind_khadri:  ok thanks
[12:05] <BenTheMan> can anyone help me
[12:05] <doctorow> Thanks everyone, bye!
[12:05] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan, yeah which package
[12:05] <BenTheMan> all
[12:05] <BenTheMan> i cant open package list
[12:05] <Idan> Hey all ! Will Firefox 3 Beta5 be the default browser for Hardy. Isn't it weird to have a Beta browser as a default one for an LTS version ??
[12:05] <BenTheMan> or the package programs
[12:05] <arvind_khadri> Idan, !hardy
[12:06] <Tux2008> Idan : dont think so
[12:06] <Idan> !hardy
[12:06] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:06] <BenTheMan> like synaptic package manager
[12:06] <Tux2008> Idan : ma kore?
[12:06] <nonewmsgs> Idan: fff 3 may be a beta but it's not-beta like
[12:06] <Idan> Tux2008, all is good :)
[12:06] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan, whats the problem
[12:06] <BenTheMan> it comes up this
[12:06] <BenTheMan> E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[12:06] <BenTheMan> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:06] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix | BedMan
[12:06] <ubotu> BedMan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:07] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix | BenTheMan
[12:07] <ubotu> BenTheMan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:07] <nonewmsgs> my system seems frozen.  it says: /dev/sdb1 has been mounted 3 times without being checked, check forced.
[12:07] <Moppa> When i run fullscreen applications (ie games, screensaver) in ubuntu 7.10 i can see applications that are currently not in focus through the fullscreen application. it is not transparent, the applications sort of flickers through.
[12:07] <nonewmsgs> 23
[12:07] <Idan> nonewmsgs: I understand that, I'm using Gecko 2.0 trunk on my mac :)
[12:07] <arvind_khadri> nonewmsgs, that happens
[12:07] <arvind_khadri> Idan, every stable version we use was once beta ;)
[12:08] <msingh> hmm
[12:08] <shardik> I'm trying to set up utorrent through wine. I put the executable in /home/<user name>/.utorrent.  How can I point towards something in an invisible folder in wine?
[12:08] <matrix|ab> take er easy dudes
[12:09] <Idan> arvind_khadri: Yup, so will the final version of FF3 be distributed through the regular repos or via backports ?
[12:09] <tuntun> Hi. I have a second partition that I mount only every so-often. When I browse through a folder with mixed contents, the 'Type' column only changes to the correct type when I highlight a file. This means that before I can sort by the type column I must first highlight over every file by holding the down arrow. This doesn't seem right. In addition, when I leave the folder and return the 'Type' column data has not been retained. What Is causing this problem? I
[12:09] <tuntun>  made a post about it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4745733#post4745733
[12:09] <arvind_khadri> Idan, normal ones i guess .... #ubuntu+1 will be insterested
[12:09] <damaltor> shardik: why do you want to run it in wine? use a linux torrent client. i think µturrent is working with linux directly
[12:09] <foo-nix> Would someone know what pulseaudio is?
[12:10] <BenTheMan> it didn't work :I
[12:10] <erUSUL> foo-nix: a audio server
[12:10] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan, hmm you cant open any package type gedit in the terminal
[12:10] <foo-nix> Then what are the differences between esd, alsa and pulseaudio?
[12:11] <shardik> I prefer the feature set/footprint combination of utorrent
[12:11] <BenTheMan> no i cant install
[12:11] <BenTheMan> or open package lists
[12:11] <CalvinDK_> Testing
[12:11] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan, what command do you use??
[12:11] <BenTheMan> sudo apt-get install sleuthkit
[12:11] <BenTheMan> and the package manager doesn't open either
[12:12] <CalvinDK_> Can someone help me with getting my ubuntu on the net (the network connection does not work) ?
[12:12] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan, hmm did you do any changes to the system do you have root privileges
[12:13] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, ethernet??
[12:13] <BenTheMan> no but i think my system is ....ed
[12:13] <damaltor> shardik: well, this shouldnt be the reason. linux torrent clients can do everything win clients can do, too. wine is slowing it down for no reason. but, try "wine /home/[username]/.utorrent/utorrent.exe" or so
[12:13] <BenTheMan> it lags when it starts
[12:13] <CalvinDK_> yes i think
[12:13] <BenTheMan> it opens up and it takes like 10 mins for it to fully start
[12:14] <arvind_khadri> BenTheMan,can you do this sudo -s the $ should change to #
[12:14] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, ifconfig -a does it show eth0??/
[12:15] <Jockeo> Can someone recommend an Ubuntu alternative for EViews? I need to do simple OLS regression, ANOVA, Time series analysis and other basic things.
[12:15] <CalvinDK_> noe moment
[12:15] <CalvinDK_> one moment
[12:15] <AlexQ> Hi. My all packaging (deb) system is broken; it can't install or uninstall anything, so my system is almost totally useless. Here's a log from the apt-get and a --configure -a command for dpkg : http://rafb.net/p/hLuzuC25.html . Please, help!
[12:15] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix | alexq
[12:15] <ubotu> alexq: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:16] <CalvinDK_> we taling about ubunto
[12:16] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, yeah
[12:16] <Valtiel-I> ubotu: do this
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do this - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Valtiel-I> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:17] <arvind_khadri> Valtiel-I, he is a bot ;)
[12:17] <Valtiel-I> )))))))))))
[12:17] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: It doesn't work, it returnes sth about /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic ... I do not know what to do
[12:18] <icesword> lol
[12:18] <Valtiel-I> ))))
[12:18] <arvind_khadri> Alexq so whats the problem now
[12:18] <Valtiel-I> it's a linux kernel
[12:18] <AlexQ> I know that is the startup fs loaded to RAM
[12:19] <arvind_khadri> Alexq1 are you able to login with X??
[12:19] <AlexQ> I think so
[12:20] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ, did you try fixing apt??
[12:20] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: Usin' your cmd, sure.
[12:20] <Valtiel-I> cmd
[12:20] <Valtiel-I> )))))))
[12:20] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ hmm so no help??
[12:20] <Valtiel-I> win32
[12:20] <arvind_khadri> !op
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[12:21] <Seveas> arvind_khadri, ?
[12:21] <Idan> Hey all, Got a question about version numbers... If I recall correctly older version of Ubuntu (5.04, 5.10) wouldn't change the version numbers of software after release, I noticed that in 7.10 (can't remember other ones), the version numbers did change, for example Firefox 2.0.x   is that methodology changed?
[12:21] <Valtiel-I> i hate a bots
[12:21] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, kick Valtiel
[12:21] <Seveas> Valtiel-I, please behave
[12:21] <Valtiel-I> arvind_khadri: kick your self
[12:21] <Valtiel-I> )))
[12:22] <Amaranth> Idan: Firefox is a bit of an exception as upstream doesn't really do plain security releases
[12:22] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63696/ - look at that
[12:22] <Seveas> Valtiel-I, last wasrning. Behave or begone
[12:22] <Idan> Armaranth, ok, thanks
[12:22] <Amaranth> Idan: And they have some strict rules on what you can do to the code and still call it "Firefox"
[12:22] <Valtiel-I> kill your self on wall
[12:22] <Valtiel-I> )))
[12:22] <JBB> hi
[12:22] <Amaranth> Idan: It actually changed in older releases too, I think starting with 5.10 but it may have been 6.06
[12:22] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ, yeah i saw that
[12:23] <JBB> god I wish ShipIt would be up again
[12:23] <Idan> Amaranth: Didn't know that, I'm on 7.10 from 5.04
[12:23] <Amaranth> Idan: Wow, Ubuntu must seem a million times better now to you :)
[12:23] <Idan> Amaranth: Always upgrading, but now I'm going to reinstall the whole thing (got a new laptop)
[12:23] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ, did you compile the new kernel??
[12:23] <Idan> Amaranth: I played with all the versions...
[12:23] <JBB> is there much difference between 7.10 and 8.04?
[12:24] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: No, i didn't
[12:24] <Amaranth> Idan: oh, i thought you meant you went right from one to the other
[12:24] <CalvinDK_> Can someone help me with getting my ubuntu on the net (the network connection does not work) ?
[12:24] <hkBst> does anyone know how shipit determines the default number of cd's you may request?
[12:24] <arvind_khadri> hkBst, 3
[12:24] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: Msg to one of the persons on the list from ubotu?
[12:24] <Idan> Amaranth: It seems Ubuntu is influeneced a lot from OS X, I have an iMac at home and it seems more and more like it.
[12:24] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ why was dpkg interuppted
[12:25] <hkBst> arvind_khadri: I used to be able to order 10, but now I can only choose 1
[12:25] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: I dont know, i think this happened when updating...
[12:25] <arvind_khadri> Idan,  its the opposite way
[12:25] <Idan> Amaranth, I just wish there was more space on screen, we have 2 toolbars and the window bar of the application, It's just a bit to much for me.
[12:25] <lara> i am having trouble installin ubuntu on an imac, i managed to boot into the livecd but without X, what is the command to start a text only installation?
[12:25] <AlexQ> arvind_khadri: What to do?
[12:25] <Idan> arvind_khadri The oposite, you sure ?!
[12:25] <brutopia> Idan: are you?
[12:26] <arvind_khadri> Idan, yeah OS X was hugely inspired by Linux
[12:26] <Amaranth> Idan: you ran at 800x600 or something? :)
[12:26] <Idan> I don't mean Linux.... I mean the desktop experience.
[12:26] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ ask again in the room maybe someone comes to the rescue
[12:26] <arvind_khadri> hkBst, select bulk order
[12:27] <CalvinDK_> arvind_khadri> im in the commandwindow
[12:27] <Idan> Gnome's GUI and all the new features (the new VFS for Gnome) are all OS X influecnced - Don't get me wrong, I think this is a _Good_ thing.
[12:27] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, yah ifconfig -a
[12:27] <JBB> Guys, who wants to make 5 bucks?
[12:27] <Idan> Amaranth, It's my laptop, 12" wide screen.
[12:28] <Amaranth> 1440x900?
[12:28] <Falcon846> hi, i am trying to install the kde development package, but it keeps giving me a dependency error about kde-core? could someone help me out
[12:28] <Idan> Amaranth 1280x800, What I like on OS X is that the Applications toolbar is merged with the top bar.
[12:28] <mshadle> can anyone here help me? i upgraded ubuntu and now my ocfs2 mounts wont work.
[12:28] <CalvinDK_> inet addr:127.0.01 Mask 255.0.0.0
[12:28] <AlexQ> My all packaging (deb) system is broken; it can't install or uninstall anything, so my system is almost totally useless. Here's a log from the apt-get and a --configure -a command for dpkg : http://rafb.net/p/hLuzuC25.html . Please, help!
[12:28] <JBB> No one wants to make 5 bucks?
[12:29] <Dr_willis> JBB,  perhaps if you stated the actual Ubuntu related tech support problem....
[12:29] <foo-nix> I have a lenovo laptop with intel hda soundcard (and hda driver, modprobe etc works), I can play music in amarok 9and other apps) but I cant hear it, I checked if stuff was muted, but could not find anything (I tried alsamixer, kmix and amarok itself). Any idea?
[12:29] <Idan> Amaranth I wish there was a way of doing so with Gnome, but that'd would be quite a modification.
[12:29] <Amaranth> Idan: not really
[12:29] <Amaranth> Idan: it's a gtk+ patch and a panel applet
[12:29] <floating> when i open the following url, after the 20secs add, a streaming video comes, but my system says that im unable to view because i dont have wmp and quicktime codecs: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929417&ch=1929417&src=eseurosport
[12:29] <hkBst> arvind_khadri: there is no such option
[12:29] <arvind_khadri> Falcon846, sudo apt-get install kde-core
[12:29] <rothchild> does anyone know if there's a way to force an intel 915g to use more ram?
[12:29] <JBB> oh, it isnt a problem, its to send me an ubuntu 8.04 cd
[12:29] <arvind_khadri> !shipit
[12:29] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[12:29] <Amaranth> Idan: don't think it works with firefox though, only gtk+ applications
[12:29] <floating> where can i get those codecs
[12:29] <kelvin911> how to kill the game that is freeze in wine?
[12:30] <Idan> Amaranth, Exactly.
[12:30] <kelvin911> vice city freezes when loading in wine, how to kill it?
[12:30] <Amaranth> Idan: works with epiphany though :)
[12:30] <Idan> Amaranth you beat me to typing that ;-)
[12:30] <rothchild> I've got loads spare so I want to share it out to different bits
[12:30] <Idan> Amaranth: Is such a patch/applet exists ?
[12:30] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  use 'ps ax' to find the wine process and send it a 'kill ProccessID#' command to kill it.
[12:30] <Amaranth> Idan: yeah, but i don't know where anymore
[12:30] <foo-nix> Are there any debugging strategies on alsa?
[12:31] <kelvin911> i cant kill it
[12:31] <rothchild> floating check http://www.medibuntu.org/
[12:31] <kelvin911>  7551 ?        00:00:54 gta-vc.exe <defunct>
[12:31] <kelvin911> i try kill 7551
[12:31] <kelvin911> but cant kill
[12:31] <Amaranth> Idan: http://www.realistanew.com/random/desktop20070723.png
[12:31] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, ps -ax|grep "wine" | kill -9 <PID>
[12:31] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  if it has a window open you can use xkill. wine can crash very very badly. and you may need to just reboot. try a  kill -9 PID
[12:31] <Idan> Amaranth Ohh ok... But there is Suse's Gnome-Main-Menu that can eliminate the top/bottom bar.
[12:31] <CalvinDK_> whtat do i do to get the ip adress automatic
[12:31] <Falcon846> arvind: it says cannot find package
[12:31] <Dr_willis> kill -9 is the KILL with extreme prejudice option. :)
[12:31] <Amaranth> Idan: sudo apt-get install gnome-main-menu
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> Falcon846, do you have the repos enables
[12:32] <kelvin911> i kill wineserver already
[12:32] <kelvin911> but these 2
[12:32] <kelvin911>  7551 ?        Zl     0:54 [gta-vc.exe] <defunct>
[12:32] <kelvin911>  7608 ?        Zsl    0:00 [explorer.exe] <defunct>
[12:32] <Amaranth> kelvin911: they are zombies
[12:32] <onefunk> hey all, does ubuntu use different syntax in the terminal than other linux os's?
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, try this sudo dhclient eth0
[12:32] <Dr_willis> Z = zombie process.. Not sure how to kill those. :)
[12:32] <Amaranth> kelvin911: you can't kill them, only option is restart
[12:32] <Falcon846> by anychance do i need an internet connection?
[12:32] <kelvin911> that's nice
[12:33] <arvind_khadri> Falcon846, yeah you do
[12:33] <mshadle> this is not good at all, this is really bad. i cannot mount my ocfs2 mounts anywhere
[12:33] <Amaranth> kelvin911: or wait up to 24 hours for init to clear them out
[12:33] <kelvin911> cant kill them?
[12:33] <kelvin911> haha
[12:33] <Falcon846> because, i dont hav one
[12:33] <foo-nix> kaffiene says my sound is muted, and I cant unmute it, how can I check why this is?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> init will get them eventually i guess. :)
[12:33] <Falcon846> i am on my cell
[12:33] <AlexQ> Amaranth: My all packaging (deb) system is broken; it can't install or uninstall anything, so my system is almost totally useless. Here's a log from the apt-get and a --configure -a command for dpkg : http://rafb.net/p/hLuzuC25.html . Can you help?
[12:33] <Amaranth> kelvin911: or kill their parent (but that's probably init)
[12:33] <msingh> how come some packages dont have a menu entry?
[12:33] <arvind_khadri> Falcon846, thats sad ...you need to have a working internet connection
[12:34] <Idan> Amaranth, yup. I just hope 8.04 will play more nicely with Santa-Rosa platforms. I bought an MSI PR200 (same as System76 Darter Ultra2) without knowing it's the same laptop. I just can't wait to dump XP and pack it in a VBOX (have to use IE and MS Office for school, and wine doesn't support typing in Hebrew)
[12:34] <kelvin911> their parent not wine?
[12:34] <arvind_khadri> msingh, as they are not application or are known by some other name
[12:34] <msingh> arvind_khadri, emacs is definitely an application..
[12:34] <Dr_willis> msingh,  not all programs are for the GUI.
[12:34] <Falcon846> ... damn. anyhow, thanks for your help
[12:34] <msingh> i noticed the same thing with 7.10 as well
[12:34] <Amaranth> kelvin911: not necessarily
[12:34] <CalvinDK_> árvind_khadri> I get an error while getting interface flags: No such device
[12:35] <arvind_khadri> msingh, vim is also but its not GUI so no menu entry ;)
[12:35] <Moppa> When i run fullscreen applications (ie games, screensaver) in ubuntu 7.10 i can see applications that are currently not in focus through the fullscreen application. it is not transparent, the applications sort of flickers through. it is not compizrelated because i have completely removed compiz and still the same thing
[12:35] <msingh> :)
[12:35] <CalvinDK_> The network card is on the motherboard
[12:35] <Amaranth> AlexQ: how the heck did you break util-linux?
[12:35] <kelvin911> so nothing i can do except restart?
[12:35] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, paste your ifconfig
[12:35] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  or wait and let init take care of it..
[12:35] <kelvin911> http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotju2.png
[12:35] <arvind_khadri> !paste | CalvinDK_
[12:35] <ubotu> CalvinDK_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:35] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I think it has happened when auto-updating system using the update manager...
[12:35] <crdlb> Moppa: that's caused by compiz or a similar composite manager
[12:35] <kelvin911> it just stuck there
[12:35] <Amaranth> AlexQ: this is not likely
[12:36] <kelvin911> how to minimize or kill that fullscreen window?
[12:36] <Amaranth> AlexQ: is util-linux installed?
[12:36] <Moppa> crdlb - i have a quite fresh ubuntu install. and have removed compiz from the system. any other ideas?
[12:36] <AlexQ> Amaranth: How do I check?
[12:36] <kelvin911> can i use force quit?
[12:36] <crdlb> Moppa: you removed compiz-core ?
[12:37] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ, apt-cache policy util-linux
[12:37] <Amaranth> AlexQ: dpkg -l util-linux
[12:37] <Dr_willis> last time i remocved compiz - it goofed up a lot of other things.. i forget what i had to do to fix it.
[12:37] <crdlb> Moppa: it would be more productive to just run 'metacity --replace' though
[12:37] <Moppa> crdlb - no, i will try that.
[12:37] <Amaranth> AlexQ: should have an ii next to it
[12:37] <crdlb> Moppa: actually Dr_willis is right, don't do that
[12:37] <Amaranth> compiz is rather integrated into gnome
[12:37] <Amaranth> if you remove it login takes like 2 minutes longer than normal, for example
[12:37] <Moppa> crdlb - ok, better to run metacity --replace?
[12:38] <chazco> Hi... is blueman supported on Ubuntu?
[12:38] <arvind_khadri> chazco, whats that??
[12:38] <Amaranth> you can of course remove it but only if you know what you're doing
[12:38] <Dr_willis> crdlb,  :) I did fix it.. i just dont rember how/what.
[12:38] <Moppa> Amaranth - ah, i see.
[12:38] <crdlb> Moppa: yes, or just set Visual Effects to None in System > Preferences > Appearance
[12:38] <kelvin911> can i force quit?
[12:38] <chazco> arvind_khadri - A bluetooth control center
[12:38] <hubuntu_> chazco: it works but it is not supported
[12:38] <AlexQ> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63697/
[12:38] <Amaranth> kelvin911: try xkill
[12:38] <chazco> Ah... was hoping it may be in the repos :(
[12:38] <hubuntu_> has lots of bugs still, but it has a good future
[12:38] <Moppa> crdlb - ok, will try that too :). thanks for your help
[12:39] <hubuntu_> they have their own repos, but as I said, it can be pretty unstable
[12:39] <kelvin911> xkill 7551 ?
[12:39] <chazco> hubuntu_ - Ah... it has bugs... maybe not then
[12:39] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I think it is installed, but it isn't possible to reinstall it etc. i think
[12:39] <hubuntu_> keep yourself to gnome-bkuetooth handling
[12:39] <Amaranth> AlexQ: you need to run that as "LANG=C apt-cache policy util-linux"
[12:39] <Amaranth> AlexQ: I don't speak the language you use :)
[12:39] <chazco> hubuntu_ - With the current setup its quite tricky to use bluetooth PANs and so on
[12:39] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I know, i know :)
[12:39] <hubuntu_> Hardy and eventually Intrepid will bring us better bluetooth supportin network connections (GPRS mainly)
[12:40] <hubuntu_> and with the new gnome virtual file system bluetooth support will be easier to develop
[12:40] <Amaranth> hubuntu_: that really has nothing to do with it
[12:40] <alexMK> high-freq, is there a way to run sudo from my user without having to always type the password?
[12:40] <hubuntu_> chazco: I know, PANs are really problematic
[12:40] <AlexQ> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63698/ - heres in eng
[12:40] <alexMK> agg
[12:40] <kelvin911> kill -9 did the job
[12:41] <Amaranth> AlexQ: not installed
[12:41] <alexMK> Hello, is there a way to run sudo from my user without having to always type the password?
[12:41] <arvind_khadri> AlexQ that means its not installed
[12:41] <Amaranth> AlexQ: how did you manage to uninstall an Essential package?
[12:41] <chazco> hubuntu_ - I was surprised that the support for bluetooth was so poor in Ubuntu...
[12:41] <hubuntu_> Amaranth: I understood it like that when talking to devs, I might have misunderstood ;)
[12:41] <kelvin911> let try to run the  game again
[12:41] <chazco> or linux in general even
[12:41] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I dont know, but how to repair it?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> alexMK,  the sudo and sudoers file has options for that. check the sudo manpages, and google for sudo ussage :)
[12:41] <Amaranth> AlexQ: apt makes you type in 'Yes, do as I say!' to make it do that because it is unwise to do so
[12:42] <Moppa> crdlb - setting visual effects to none worked :).
[12:42] <hubuntu_> but Hardy WILL bring us better bluetooth connections, at least with phones and cards thorug NetworkManager
[12:42] <Dr_willis> alexMK,  it would be considered a bad thing from a security point of view.. (but i do it that way also on some machines)
[12:42] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I don't remember that I have done it... Is it possible to repair it or not?
[12:42] <Amaranth> AlexQ: grab http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.13-8ubuntu1_i386.deb and see if you can install it manually
[12:42] <floating> rothchild: does that video work for you ? I have installed w32codecs from medibuntu but it doesnt help :(
[12:42] <arvind_khadri> chazco, there is bluemon here in ubuntu
[12:42] <hubuntu_> chazco: I believe it is pretty good, but it need a lot of tweaking... The stack is there to do anything you want
[12:43] <Amaranth> AlexQ: Never removed an Essential package before so I'm in new territory
[12:43] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I'll try, but i think it wouldn't be possible
[12:43] <tuntun> Hi. I have a second partition that I mount only every so-often. When I browse through a folder with mixed contents, the 'Type' column only changes to the correct type when I highlight a file. This means that before I can sort by the type column I must first highlight over every file by holding the down arrow. This doesn't seem right. In addition, when I leave the folder and return the 'Type' column data has not been retained. What Is causing this problem? I
[12:43] <tuntun>  made a post about it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4745733#post4745733
[12:43] <kelvin911> damn vice city freezes again
[12:43] <hubuntu_> I meant Intrepid with NetMan...
[12:43] <kelvin911> i can get it run 3 hours ago
[12:43] <chazco> The actual support i guess s there, it just seems really poor compared to some of the Windows offerings (lots and lots of config for simple tasks)
[12:43] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  you did check the wine app database? the game may ned some tweaks.
[12:43] <ubobo> when i go surfing internet ,my browser  always shut down by itself .I want to recovery it to default  configurations,but I don't know how can I do that ?anyone here can tell me ?
[12:43] <AlexQ> Amaranth: Mhm, i have AMD64, another link, plz?
[12:43] <Amaranth> AlexQ: the reason mkinitramfs is failing like this instead of giving dependency errors is because a system without an Essential package installed is considered a very broken system
[12:43] <kelvin911> i was playing that game 3 hours ago
[12:43] <Idan> Amaranth: Found something like the screenshot you sent me , look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[12:43] <Amaranth> AlexQ: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.13-8ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[12:43] <hubuntu_> chazco: try to see all bluetooth related packages in synaptic and/or aptitude
[12:44] <hubuntu_> you'll be suprised of all the offerings
[12:44] <alexMK> Dr_willis, from a security point of view ;) other people would still need to be able to acces my user account first
[12:44] <AlexQ> Amaranth: Thx, im trying
[12:44] <kelvin911>  7736 ?        SLl    0:27 C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto Vice
[12:44] <kelvin911>  7739 ?        Ss     0:03 /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wineserver
[12:44] <kelvin911>  7793 ?        SLsl   0:00 c:\windows\system32\explorer.exe /desktop
[12:44] <chazco> hubuntu_ - I have most of them installed, its still very tricky... having to use the console to connect to my phone is annoying
[12:44] <kelvin911> what does it mean SLI ?
[12:44] <kelvin911> Ss?
[12:44] <AlexQ> Amaranth: "Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'linux32'... Is it an reason?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> alexMK,   Time to read up on sudo ! go for it. :0 dont blame us if your pc explodes. :P
[12:45] <hubuntu_> and give blueman a shot, It does work, just use the stable package and you'll see. The problem is with some devices (BT PCMCIA) but if yourBT is built-in it should do fine
[12:45] <chazco> Anyway, thanks :)
[12:45] <hubuntu_> chazco: I know, I do it myself...
[12:45] <alexMK> Dr_willis, wtf, the /etc/sudoers file MUST be edited with visudo ?
[12:45] <Amaranth> AlexQ: did this happen during a distribution upgrade?
[12:45] <Amaranth> AlexQ: like 7.10 to 8.04
[12:45] <CalvinDK_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63699/
[12:45] <hubuntu_> ..
[12:45] <CalvinDK_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63699/
[12:45] <Moppa> kelvin911 - if you got questions about wine i think tou should turn to #winehq
[12:45] <alexMK> Dr_willis, that's text editor monopoly :)
[12:46] <AlexQ> Amaranth: * a reason? So, i have to uninstall linux32? Maybe it has happened when I was trying to install flash on my AMD
[12:46] <Dr_willis> alexMK,  thats the 'most secure' way. and if you mess up that file.. you will break sudo.. so thus you cant sudo to fix it back.
[12:46] <Idan> Amaranth, it's called Gnome Global Menu
[12:46] <kelvin911> let me try to restart my computer
[12:46] <Amaranth> AlexQ: linux32 is a part of util-linux
[12:46] <ubobo> when i go surfing internet ,my browser  always shut down by itself .I want to recovery it to default  configurations,but I don't know what should I do .anyone here can tell me ?
[12:46] <AlexQ> Amaranth: But i Cant install it, it returns that error.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> alexMK,  you dont HAVE to use it.. but  its safest to do so.
[12:46] <rothchild> floating sorry which video?
[12:46] <Amaranth> AlexQ: ok, let's get you a working system, then you can clean it up
[12:47] <alexMK> Dr_willis: I know :) I always use mcedit
[12:47] <floating> with w32codecs but the stream(after ad) is not working: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929421&ch=1929421&src=deeurosport
[12:47] <Amaranth> AlexQ: sudo dpkg -i --force-all <that deb file>
[12:47] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, what modem....is it a USB one??
[12:47] <Dr_willis> alexMK,  ive been using 'fte' more and more lately
[12:47] <Amaranth> AlexQ: never ever use that command again :)
[12:48] <imyousuf> Hi! I am trying to install Gutsy Gibbon on Gigabyte motherboard with Intel GMA 950 VGA but Gutsy says that it can not detect AGP and exits
[12:48] <floating> sorry, this stream http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929417&ch=1929417&src=eseurosport
[12:48] <floating> does that work for someone on ubuntu ?
[12:48] <CalvinDK_> arvind_khari> A kabel modem
[12:48] <imyousuf> any hints on how I can get gutsy recognise it and continue with installation?
[12:48] <rothchild> when I log out to gdm I get a window with 'authentification failed' when I click ok it just reapears what files does gdm check for 'authentification'?
[12:49] <AlexQ> Amaranth: Which command :)? It returns no errors. So, now try to install eg. k3b? Or sth?
[12:49] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, modem company give me comlete details
[12:49] <rothchild> floating I just get a message saying I can't view it because of my geo location (in the UK)
[12:49] <imyousuf> BTW I also tried to configure VGA manually and I did not find any 950 in the Intel VGA list, there are only 94 and 965
[12:49] <alexMK> Dr_willis: haven't heard of that one, I'm not much of a programmer, I reaaally keep it simple :P
[12:50] <floating> rothchild: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929371&ch=1929371&src=ukeurosport do you get stream from here.. maybe le mans here but still
[12:51] <alexMK> Dr_willis: I just keep thanking ubuntu and apt, 3 secs and I downloaded and installed fte :) F.. you fedora and yum!
[12:51] <kelvin911> i restart and the game can run perfectly
[12:52] <kelvin911> dont know whats wrong
[12:52] <CalvinDK_> arvind_khadri> its a Motorola - im use is now on my laptop. I have conncted the cable modem to a 4 ports switch and from the switch to my laptop and the ubuntu computer
[12:52] <zaputr> Help,I unmount my external hdd uncorrectly and now i cant mount it because "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown(0, 0)" How can i mount it?
[12:53] <cyberagent> can somebody reach http://arvind.gotdns.org ?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> zaputr,  if its ntfs. reboot to windows, have windows check it/scandisk it.. reboot back to linux and let linux mount it. is the 'best' way
[12:53] <rothchild> floating no dice here :-(
[12:54] <zaputr> I have not any windows on my laptop
[12:54] <imyousuf> I am trying to install Gutsy Gibbon on Gigabyte motherboard with Intel GMA 950 VGA but Gutsy says that it can not detect AGP and exits. I also tried to configure VGA manually and I did not find any 950 in the Intel VGA list, there are only 945 and 965. any hints on how I can get gutsy recognise it and continue with installation?
[12:54] <floating> oki:i
[12:54] <jnicklas> I just installer ubuntu and am trying to get a dual monitor setup to work, the second screen doesn't allow me to increase the resolution past 640x480 though.
[12:54] <nsnf> rothchild stupid name, yeah?
[12:54] <AlexQ> Amaranth: Yeah, it works now! Thank you very much! But, can you help me with flash? I will be afk for a moment, but... I tried almost everything to install it on my 64 bit system
[12:57] <ce_luvy> ce_luvy
[12:57] <imyousuf> I am trying to install Gutsy Gibbon on Gigabyte motherboard (GA-945GCM-S2C) with Intel GMA 950 VGA but Gutsy says that it can not detect AGP and exits. I also tried to configure VGA manually and I did not find any 950 in the Intel VGA list, there are only 945 and 965. any hints on how I can get gutsy recognise it and continue with installation?
[12:58] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Motorola-Surfboard-Modem/index.html refer here
[12:59] <foo-nix> Is alsa a component or a service?
[13:00] <arvind_khadri> CalvinDK_, try sudo dhclient lo
[13:00] <jnicklas> I just installer ubuntu and am trying to get a dual monitor setup to work, the second screen doesn't allow me to increase the resolution past 640x480 though.
[13:00] <Amaranth> AlexQ: never done flash on amd64
[13:00] <Amaranth> AlexQ: from what i've heard you just install flashplugin-nonfree and that's it
[13:00] <Kaja> flash on amd64: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:00] <Amaranth> AlexQ: it sets up nspluginwrapper and everything for you
[13:01] <AlexQ> Amaranth: OK, ok, thank you v much :). flashplugin-nonfree is bugged with the md5sum for Adobe and nspluginwrapper doesn't want to install from package in my case...
[13:01] <ensi> hey, i have an application that does a fork() and then a system() call, trying to open a file in /tmp/foobar/meh.log with gedit. It just wont open the file, but just "permission denied" gets printed on the screen, even though the files are readable for everyone. Any ideas?
[13:01] <Amaranth> AlexQ: yeah, it will be updated soon
[13:02] <Amaranth> AlexQ: adobe updated their flash again so the package has to be upgraded
[13:02] <AlexQ> Amaranth: I know that this is the reason... Isn't it possible to ask Adobe to develop md5sums in other file to check or sth? I think they're very good for Open Source :).
[13:03] <tuntun> dear god drag-and-drog is woeful!!
[13:03] <rothchild> nsnf ?
[13:03] <sdakak> I am trying to install ubuntu over a lan to other machines in my lab. I am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer?highlight=%28pxe%29. The dhcp server is working because when I 'boot from lan' from the client it discovers the dhcp servers ip and then gets an ip in the proper range. But then it says TFTP.....timed out. And then again TFTP.... And nothing happens. My /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf, /etc/inetd .conf and apache stuff is 
[13:03] <ce_luvy> manado
[13:03] <AlexQ> OK, bye
[13:04] <Da_Dude> I'm trying to create a desktop launcher for a java app
[13:04] <Da_Dude> java -jar MovieManager.jar
[13:04] <Da_Dude> the damn thing won't run....although I can click right in choose run with sun java 6
[13:05] <sdakak> someone?
[13:05] <Darkloader> Hi, each time i login in KDE, firefox & Gwenview start automatically. How can I fix this please?
[13:06] <alchemist_08> sdakak your LAN got a router?
[13:07] <sdakak> alchemist_08: Yes, but I don't need to go to it. The server plus my lan machines are all inside the same switch.
[13:08] <alchemist_08> sdakak ok , im new here and was just a thought. but my router has an option to disable the tftp on my LAN.
[13:08] <sdakak> alchemist_08: I am inside the same switch. Nothing goes to the router. Hope someone turns up
[13:08] <Da_Dude> anyone on the java app?
[13:09] <Da_Dude> bump
[13:09] <Da_Dude> heh
[13:09] <Hewus> I've read that with GVFS, we are now able to restore files from the garbage bin. I've deleted a file to test it, but can't find any restore option. Anyone know where this option is?
[13:09] <sdakak> !gvfs
[13:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gvfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:09] <Hewus> sorry this should be in +1
[13:09] <ce_luvy> hy
[13:10] <sdakak> ikonia: Are you around?
[13:10] <sdakak> erUSUL: Can you help me?
[13:11] <alexises_> hi
[13:11] <alexises_> i'm (please don't send my winth the french chanel please)
[13:12] <alexises_> but i would have some help to correct my english homework
[13:13] <alexises_> it's not difficult for you :) i would have some help for correcte my error
[13:13] <Ingo08> Hi, I need some helb
[13:13] <alexises_> hi
[13:13] <alexises_> wath is your problem
[13:14] <alexises_> (i'm french :) )
[13:14] <Balachmar> is there some nice gui that let's you browse the installed documentation files on your machine?
[13:14] <Ingo08> Hi, I need some help to get bluetooth and audio running on my DELL XPS M2010
[13:15] <Stroganoff> Balachmar: try manedit http://wolfpack.twu.net/ManEdit/screenshots/ss02.png
[13:16] <Balachmar> @Stoganoff : I was actually not talking about the man pages but the stuff in the doc dir
[13:16] <alexises_> ne peaple can help me ?
[13:17] <sdakak> alexises_: Whas is happening to you?
[13:17] <Balachmar> @alexises: You're kidding right? You are surely not asking us to correct your homework...
[13:18] <alexises_> i have some error in my homework and i could like to have some help
[13:19] <mikedegg1> hi
[13:19] <alexises_> can you helps me sdakak
[13:19] <sdakak> alexises_: c'mon man. stop it.
[13:19] <alexises_> okey :)
[13:19] <mikedegg1> does anyone know how to get this card to work in ubuntu
[13:19] <mikedegg1> http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/products/external_tv/flytv_express_m5_mst_t2a2.htm
[13:20] <alexises_> it's true i seens a boulay
[13:20] <arvind_k> Hewus, thats with 8.04
[13:21] <arvind_k> Hewus, just drag and drop the file outside ;)
[13:22] <Jackubus> are there any utilities to improve power management on my samsung x20 laptop.  intel dothan on 915 chipset ?
[13:22] <mikedegg1> does anyone know how to get this card to work in ubuntu:  http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/products/external_tv/flytv_express_m5_mst_t2a2.htm
[13:22] <Hewus> arvind_k: yes, I've already been to ubuntu+1 and worked out why, thanks anyway :-)
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Jackubus,  theres the intel powernow tools..but ive only toyed with them
[13:23] <sdakak> I need help with installing ubuntu over lan. tftp, dhcp, apache setup. I already asked the question above. anyone?
[13:24] <Jackubus> Dr_willis: for apt-get ?
[13:25] <Ingo08> Hi, I need some help to get bluetooth and audio running on my DELL XPS M2010
[13:25] <Stavros> hello
[13:26] <Stavros> there was a power failure in the middle of a release upgrade, how can i resume it?
[13:26] <sdakak> Dr_willis: can you help me?
[13:27] <arvind_k> sdakak, sudo apt-get install -f
[13:27] <matrix> hello
[13:27] <matrix> root@flash:~/baris/FMS_3_0_1_r123# patch -p1 &lt; flash-media-server-3-ubuntu.patch
[13:27] <matrix> [5] 12359
[13:27] <matrix> -bash: lt: command not found
[13:27] <matrix> what s problem ?
[13:27] <FloodBot3> matrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <arvind_k> matrix, what are you trying to achieve
[13:28] <sdakak> arvind_k you realldy don't know what you are talking about my friend.
[13:29] <matrix> i want to install flash media server
[13:29] <matrix> and
[13:29] <matrix> i want to patch this file  flash-media-server-3-ubuntu.patch
[13:29] <matrix>  patch -p1 & lt; flash-media-server-3-ubuntu.patch
[13:29] <bochecha> hi everyone!
[13:29] <matrix> tihs command  not
[13:29] <matrix> work
[13:29] <matrix> :(
[13:30] <bochecha> I just bought a Dell laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled, and I'd like to know what the "Dell Utility" partition is, and if I can remove it
[13:30] <bochecha> any idea?
[13:30] <arvind_k> sdakak, you want to resume a broken upgrade right???
[13:30] <Dr_willis> I would say check the dell web site. and theuybuntu forums. ive never heard anyone mention a dell partition on theur linux machines befor.
[13:31] <bochecha> Dr_willis: -_-
[13:31] <bochecha> really?
[13:31] <sdakak> arvind_kno.
[13:31] <sdakak> Dr_willis: Can you help with a tftp ubuntu install?
[13:31] <sdakak> ikonia: where are you :(
[13:31] <arvind_k> Dr_willis, Dell are giving ubuntu pre-installed now
[13:31] <bochecha> could it be a new stuff I'm the first to see? ^^
[13:32] <astro76> matrix: lose the &lt;
[13:33] <astro76> matrix: replace it with <
[13:33] <astro76> matrix: man patch also tels you the format ;)
[13:34] <imyousuf> The funny thing is though Gutsy could install itself while Fiesty actually installed without any problem :) and after installing xserver-xorg-video-intel VGA also worked perfectly :). It seems to be a regression problem :)
[13:35] <imyousuf> I am really amused
[13:35] <x0x> hello. is there any way to run .exe file in text mode?
[13:36] <HymnToLife> I'm really amused too
[13:36] <HymnToLife> all those peopel whining at every new release just because they can't get it right
[13:36] <HymnToLife> and assuming that means no one else can
[13:36] <arvind_k> x0x, there isnt a concept of exe in linux
[13:36] <x0x> i know
[13:36] <imyousuf> not only that the older version works fine :-D
[13:36] <HymnToLife> arvind_k: oh yeah ?
[13:37] <HymnToLife> I'm preety sure linux has executables, too
[13:37]  * imyousuf realizes "old is gold"
[13:37] <reizend> x0x, what do you mean by text mode?
[13:37] <leion> hi
[13:37] <x0x> !text mode
[13:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about text mode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:37] <arvind_k> HymnToLife, it has sure but not as .exe ;)
[13:37] <x0x> terminal
[13:37] <x0x> hi leion
[13:37] <arvind_k> x0x, do you want to run a executable???
[13:37] <x0x> yes
[13:38] <HymnToLife> x0x: a Windows executable?
[13:38] <x0x> yep
[13:38] <HymnToLife> hmm
[13:38] <arvind_k> x0x, you need to have wine for that
[13:38] <reizend> !wine
[13:38] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:38] <HymnToLife> try !wine, or something like that
[13:38] <x0x> in text mode?
[13:38] <arvind_k> x0x well what package is tat anyway
[13:38] <arvind_k> x0x, wine /path/to/file
[13:38] <x0x> i want to run a mirc in text mode.
[13:39] <arvind_k> x0x, you can use Xchat
[13:39] <x0x> a game. everyoen like it. so i deside to run it..
[13:39] <x0x> nope the game made for mirc only :s
[13:39]  * x0x has no gnu
[13:39] <superactive> Hello there, I just installed the driver for my creative soundblaster x-fi card, but Alsa is still set to the integrated soundcard, how do I change tht?
[13:40] <x0x> dude my ubuntu is server version ;p
[13:40] <arvind_k> x0x, hmm
[13:40] <arvind_k> x0x, install wine and you can run it
[13:41] <x0x> i dont think will can help me.
[13:41] <reizend> superactive: are you able to change the device under System->Preferences->Sound
[13:42] <x0x> arvind_k, WINE for GNU mode not text mode
[13:42] <reizend> x0x, I think you might mean gui
[13:43] <arvind_k> x0x windows executables can only be run through GUI not through text mode
[13:43] <ce_luvy__> #manado
[13:43] <lartza_> HAve I read right? Google Earth will not work on my PC???
[13:43] <superactive> reizend: gonna try
[13:43] <lartza_> I read that it needs atleast P4 and it crashes every time i try to run it
[13:43] <arvind_k> x0x, get gnome or kde or xfce if you dont have GUI
[13:44] <x0x> lol
[13:44] <arvind_k> lartza_, thats on medibuntu
[13:44] <superactive> what's the command to kill x on kde?
[13:44] <arvind_k> superactive, you mean kill X as a whole
[13:44] <x0x> how do i will see GNI if its remote pc
[13:44] <superactive> yeah
[13:44] <lartza_> arvind_k: you mean google earth is on medibuntu or problem is on medibuntu?
[13:44] <unop_> superactive, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[13:44] <astro76> superactive: ctrl-alt-backspace will kill it no matter the desktop
[13:44] <Ravenkin> Was wondering if someone could help me?  Trying to mount a hdd that's windows, and when I try to mount it it says it can't mount, because windows wasn't shut down properly.  But it says I can force a mount, but when I try to force it it says I need root access?  How do I get root access?
[13:45] <arvind_k> lartza_, google earth is in medibuntu
[13:45] <astro76> superactive: err restart it ;)
[13:45] <Trollinator> Ravenkin: by using sudo
[13:45] <lartza_> arvind_k: But it doesnt maen it works on my PC
[13:45] <Ravenkin> trollinator: tried sudo before the command, didn't work
[13:45] <arvind_k> lartza_, i hope you are using ubuntu??
[13:45] <Trollinator> Ravenkin: try a root shell (sudo -s)
[13:45] <gregory> !root | Ravenkin
[13:45] <ubotu> Ravenkin: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:45] <seriouslycgi> can anyone tell me if there is a bug or issue with 7.10 and networking? my install was running fine and now my local network is running really slow, tried re-install and new nic card but its still slow
[13:46] <Stroganoff> Ravenkin: sudo mount /media/hda1
[13:46] <Stroganoff> ?
[13:46] <lartza_> arvind_k: Yea, but its because of cpu
[13:46] <lartza_> they said 4.3 requires atleast P4
[13:46] <arvind_k> lartza_, hmm
[13:46] <lartza_> that's what i understanded
[13:46] <Trollinator> my NetworkManager doesn't work. nm-tool says "print_devices(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager.". Does anybody know this error?
[13:46] <Ravenkin> gregory lol that's awesome
[13:46] <arvind_k> lartza_, no idea
[13:46] <gregory> Ravenkin: not my text
[13:46] <lartza_> arvind_k: But i-ll try the medibuntu one, thanks for reminding
[13:47] <IceKing> so Im getting a list of updates for my laptop but I also get a warning that the updates cant be authenticated whats up with that?
[13:47] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63713/
[13:47] <Ravenkin> gregory: ya I know, but it made me laugh, I needed it
[13:47] <arvind_k> !medibuntu | lartza_
[13:47] <ubotu> lartza_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[13:47] <murlidhar> got problems could someone look into it      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63713/
[13:47] <lartza_> arvind_k:Yeas, I have it enabled already
[13:47] <lartza_> Umm, I can't remove Google Earth
[13:48] <IceKing> can someone advise me on the following:
[13:48] <lartza_> lartza@lartza-desktop:/opt/google-earth$ ./uninstall
[13:48] <lartza_> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[13:48] <lartza_> lartza@lartza-desktop:/opt/google-earth$ sudo ./uninstall
[13:48] <lartza_> Could not open product information for -L
[13:48] <IceKing> so Im getting a list of updates for my laptop but I also get a warning that the updates cant be authenticated whats up with that?
[13:48] <x0x> OMFG wine is 41.5MB
[13:48] <lartza_> IceKing: I think it means they are from unoffical repository.
[13:48] <astro76> lartza_: googleearth uninstall instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#head-c1c56a1bb75c740a3a33269b946d931272b451f6
[13:48] <IceKing> yeah but rsync and the update manager?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> x0x OMFG  ive downloaded printer drivetrs for windows at over 200mb.. :)
[13:48] <Dr_willis> :P
[13:49] <Ravenkin> Well thanks anyway guys, just going to reformat it anyway.  Microsoft's support actually caused my windows to crash.  Think I'm done with them.
[13:49] <IceKing> lartza_ yeah but rsync and the update manager?
[13:49] <unop_> Ravenkin, if you install the ntfsprogs package, you can use ntfsfix to repair the volume
[13:49] <lartza_> IceKing: Then no idea
[13:49] <pajamian> x0x: wine is a near full implementation of several different versions of windows, so it's understandable that it is a bit hefty.
[13:49] <Ravenkin> unop_ thanks I'll try that
[13:50] <unop_> Ravenkin, reformatting is really overkill for something as simple as this
[13:50] <IceKing> pajamian how fine is the wine these days?
[13:50] <lartza_> IceKing: No sound...
[13:50] <pajamian> IceKing: hehehe
[13:50] <arvind_k> IceKing, still not very good
[13:50] <lartza_> ty astro76
[13:50] <Ravenkin> unop_ Well I can't get into windows period.  I don't know if you've heard of the problem, but it sits at updating step 3 0% and won't let you in.
[13:51] <seriouslycgi> help.. my local ubuntu 7.10 lamp server on 100mbit network is running really slow all of a sudden for a week now, tried re-install and new nic card but its still slow, where do i begin to troubleshoot?
[13:51] <unop_> Ravenkin, are you trying to boot windows up  or are you trying to mount the windows volume within ubuntu?
[13:52] <lartza_> arvind_k: Well, there is no newest googleearth on medibuntu
[13:52] <unop_> seriouslycgi, what is "seriously slow", define it?
[13:52] <seriouslycgi> 10-40kbytes
[13:52] <lartza_> But it's still newest than my previous
[13:52] <arvind_k> lartza_, hmm
[13:52] <Ravenkin> unop_ Well Windows won't let me in, so I can't restart it in order to shut it down properly, so I was going to try and force mount it in Ubuntu so I can see if there was anything I really wanted to save, but I pretty much use Ubuntu now, so there shouldn't be anything there anywya
[13:52] <seriouslycgi>  and ssh takes ages to respond
[13:52] <lartza_> I'm not sure if it would work from medibuntu if it was newest since the official wont work
[13:53] <vova_kubba> hi all
[13:53] <lartza_> hi
[13:53] <lartza_> Has anyone got sound in wine?
[13:53] <vova_kubba> who now how i can scrol the list of users in weechat
[13:53] <unop_> Ravenkin, sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs;  sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXX   # where sdXX is the device representing the windows volume
[13:54] <lartza_> vova_kubba: Type /who
[13:54] <cew_imuet> mAlEm cEmUa......
[13:54] <pajamian> lartza_: yep, sound works just fine in wine for me.
[13:54] <seriouslycgi> unop_, 10-40kbytes, and ssh takes ages to respond, pings are around 1000ms, previously its was fast and fine.
[13:54] <vova_kubba> i'm sorry if i have mistakes in my sentences because i'm from ukraine ;)
[13:54] <lartza_> pajamian: :(
[13:54] <Ravenkin> unop_ just installed ntfsprogs so I'll give it a try thanks
[13:54] <vova_kubba> lartza_: /who didn't work
[13:54] <lartza_> and how do you install libfaac?
[13:54] <lartza_> vova_kubba: Then no idea
[13:55] <vova_kubba> what cliet do you use?
[13:55] <vova_kubba> client
[13:55] <LordMetroid> Isn't g++ available as standard on Ubuntu
[13:55] <Ravenkin> unop_ actually even though the force said it didn't work apparently it did, thanks for your help
[13:55] <lartza_> vova_kubba: It's not working on mine neither
[13:55] <lartza_> I have userlist on right
[13:55] <pajamian> seriouslycgi: I would look into what may have changed since it worked fast.  Also, make sure it's not HW related, I know you tried a new NIC, but also try a new ethernet cable, different port on router/hub/switch/whatever, etc.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> LordMetroid,  the core stuff to compile C programs is not included. install 'build-essential' package.
[13:55] <lartza_> Is medibuntu repo down?
[13:55] <Ravenkin> Thanks for everyone's help
[13:55] <vova_kubba> i have user list on right to but i can'r scroll it
[13:56] <bleck> anyone have an idea as to why /proc/bus/usb doesn't contain any files (eg: devices)
[13:56] <LordMetroid> I see...
[13:56] <vova_kubba> and i can't scroll what does people wrote
[13:56] <lartza_> Click name and press down? Scroll mouse?
[13:56] <unop_> seriouslycgi,  also verify the duplex/speed of the link, make sure it is set to 100Mb Full-Duplex (use ethtool for that)
[13:56] <lartza_> Page down or up?
[13:56] <bleck> or how I could get the .config from my running kernel to check how its compiled?
[13:56] <lartza_> Is medibuntu down?
[13:56] <vova_kubba> page up and down work for scroling history
[13:57] <lartza_> not in users?
[13:57] <vova_kubba> no
[13:57] <IceKing> Thats the one thing that bugs me about the  Ubuntu Debian way the software build system is different from slackware
[13:57] <lartza_> press someones name and then
[13:57] <vova_kubba> just in this window
[13:57] <vova_kubba> i can't pres noone name
[13:57] <vova_kubba> it's terminal clien
[13:57] <vova_kubba> client
[13:57] <seriouslycgi> pajamian, ok thanks they are good suggestions
[13:57] <lartza_> oh
[13:57] <Dr_willis> IceKing,  one thing that bugs me about slackware  is how their build system differes from Debian Ubuntu's ! :)
[13:57] <seriouslycgi> unop_, thanks
[13:57] <IceKing> Dr_willis lol
[13:58] <LordMetroid> Dr_willis: Thank you...
[13:58] <Enselic> I'm very tired of Firefox crashing 30% of the times I'm going to watch a YouTube video. Does anyone have a workaround?
[13:58] <vova_kubba> !quote 4
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote 4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:58] <rl_> how to find my host id?
[13:58] <Cahan> Enselic, use Opera :p
[13:58] <neil_ubuntu> !hardy
[13:58] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:58] <Ace2016> is it firefox crashing or flash crashing it?
[13:58] <bleck> IceKing : what specifically?
[13:58] <lartza_> vova_kubba: I have irssi and it doesnt have userlist so cant try
[13:58] <IceKing> my points is Ive learned about ./configure & friends...the hard way and now its hard wired into my brain
[13:58] <Ace2016> i have problems with opera crashing due to flash but firefox is stable
[13:58] <matrix> how can i do index.htm on apache in ubuntu ?
[13:59] <vova_kubba> lartza_: ok, but thanks ;)
[13:59] <IceKing> so Im too lazy to get ued to the debian ubuntu way
[13:59] <lartza_> np
[13:59] <bleck> IceKing : no-ones stopping you from doing it that way :)
[13:59] <pajamian> Enselic: it doesn't crash that often for me but it does lock up after viewing several videos.  my solution is to just restart FF since it doesn't happen that often.  I generally attribute it to a problem with the proprietary flash player.
[13:59] <vova_kubba> who are using weechat?
[13:59] <lartza_> Is medibuntu working on you?
[13:59] <lartza_> repo, not site
[13:59] <Dr_willis> IceKing,  so the slackware 'way' is basicially.. 'no actual special way at all' :)
[13:59] <whabo>  hello is there a way to recognize my labtec 1200 webcam on pclinuxos? it is not working at all .. thank you
[13:59] <whabo> on ubuntu
[14:00] <IceKing> umm  on the package management side of things no
[14:00] <Dr_willis> IceKing,  you can easially isntall from source. I do it all the time. I also take the source tar.gzs and make debs from time to time.
[14:00] <bleck> Dr_willis : or "old-school"
[14:00] <whabo>  hello is there a way to recognize my labtec 1200 webcam on ubuntu? it is not working at all .. thank you
[14:00] <noob13> matrix: you just create it. and usually put it into /var/www
[14:00] <Enselic> pajamian: it is in no doubt a problem with the propriatary player, that's why I'm asking for workaround rather than just fixing the bug myself :)
[14:00] <pajamian> Enselic: how much RAM do you have?
[14:00] <Enselic> pajamian: 1 gig
[14:00] <IceKing> Dr_willis do you have a script to generate the debs form tgzs?
[14:00] <DDragon> hi all, im setting up a server using linux, atm i have Kubuntu 6.06 installed and was wondering if its possable for it to act as a webserver or would it be better to install Ubuntu server instead?
[14:00] <matrix> but index.htm not workk default
[14:01] <matrix> noob13,
[14:01] <bleck> IceKing : I don't believe its that simple.
[14:01] <pajamian> Enselic: that should generally be plenty, I do fine with 512 megs.  I haven't had FF actually crash in ages, but like I've said, it does lock up when playing a video on youtube from time to time.
[14:01] <Dr_willis> IceKing,  thers a program to do it all ready. I forget its name.
[14:01] <sdakak> DDragon: Its perfectly possible.
[14:01] <craigbass1976> I keep having trouble installing stuff on this new gutsy install
[14:01] <IceKing> googling lets see
[14:01] <Dr_willis> IceKing,  it dosent always work. :) but it does work some times
[14:01] <dudeeee34> hello
[14:01] <IceKing> oh
[14:01] <Dr_willis> !info checkinstall
[14:01] <Enselic> pajamian: yes it's flash that is the problem, not firefox
[14:01] <CJS3141> Anybody here use the KAD network with aMule?
[14:01] <ubotu> checkinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-4ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 113 kB, installed size 544 kB
[14:01] <DDragon> what would be easier tho, using Ubuntu server edition or making Kubuntu a webserver?
[14:01] <IceKing> !info checkinstall
[14:01] <Dr_willis> !checkinstall | ice_cream
[14:01] <ubotu> ice_cream: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[14:02] <Dr_willis> ooops
[14:02] <Enselic> DDragon: making Kubuntu a webserver
[14:02] <dudeeee34> Can anyone help me adjust my screen brightness?
[14:02] <Dr_willis> !checkinstall | IceKing
[14:02] <ubotu> IceKing: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[14:02] <Dr_willis> sorry ice cream. :)
[14:02] <pajamian> Enselic: you can always try gnash and see if it does any better.
[14:02] <dudeeee34> Can anyone help me adjust my screen brightness in ubuntu?
[14:02] <noob13> DDragon: i'd say just as easy. you'll have to install apache and deal with it similarly in both cases.
[14:02] <craigbass1976> mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev for isntance gives me:   libmysqlclient15-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not installable and then mysql-client and mysql-server won't go
[14:02] <Enselic> pajamian: afaik gnash does not support youtube videos
[14:02] <bleck> ubotu: heh, cool
[14:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heh, cool - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:02] <bleck> ...
[14:02] <IceKing> Dr_willis thanks for the tip
[14:02] <Dr_willis> bleck,  thats a bot. :)
[14:02] <pajamian> Enselic: I don't know for sure.  I thoguht it might.
[14:02] <craigbass1976> Is it because I'm using an older box?
[14:02] <IceKing> hehe
[14:02] <bleck> Dr_willis : thanks for pointing that out :)
[14:02] <DDragon> ok thanks sdakak and noob13
[14:03] <dudeeee34> Please can anyone assist me adjusting my screen brightness?
[14:03] <Dr_willis> bleck,  at last you dident ask ubotu 's A/S/L :)
[14:03] <bleck> :)
[14:03] <bottiger> what's the difference between "roundcube" and "roundcube-webmail"
[14:03] <IceKing> dudeeee34 on a laptop?
[14:03] <sirjulio> hey all, where does wget send files to by default?
[14:03] <dudeeee34> yes a laptop
[14:03] <bleck> !hehstat
[14:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hehstat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:03] <bleck> just checking..
[14:03] <pajamian> sirjulio: current directory
[14:03] <unop> sirjulio, the current directory
[14:03] <sirjulio> ah, ty
[14:03]  * vova_kubba want to enable visual effect ;)
[14:04] <IceKing> vova_kubba, like compiz_fusion?
[14:04] <musa> hello guys
[14:04] <IceKing> dudeeee34 what model
[14:04] <dudeeee34> compaq peresario c714nr
[14:05] <IceKing> and what ver of ubuntu?
[14:05] <dudeeee34> 7.10
[14:05] <vova_kubba> i can't enable no one type of visual effect (normal or extra) when u try choose one of them it shows me message that Desktop Effects Could not be enabled
[14:05] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis: mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev for isntance gives me:   libmysqlclient15-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not installable and then mysql-client and mysql-server won't go.  Is this common for gutsy installs on onlder hardware?
[14:06] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  i would have to suggest 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try installing the packages again. first. Harware dosent matter for this stuff
[14:06] <ty> getting error "required kernel toshiba support not enabled." when trying to use toshset.
[14:06] <musa> i installed ubuntu 8.4 lastname, i have networking issue. i can ping internet (google.com using ip and dns domain name but i can not browse the net.
[14:06] <noob13> dudeeee34: usually u adjust the brightness on the monitor itself. have you tried that?
[14:07] <dudeeee34> how do i do that?
[14:07] <unop> !hardy | musa
[14:07] <ubotu> musa: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:07] <noob13> dudeeee34: that depends. has your laptop got a 'function' button ("fn" or similar) on the keyboard?
[14:07] <musa> yes unop
[14:08] <dudeeee34> yes
[14:08] <dudeeee34> it dose
[14:08] <IceKing> dudeeee34 do you have an Fn key at the bottom left or right?
[14:08] <noob13> dudeeee34: if so, try holding it down and pressing the up arrow.
[14:08] <lartza_> i get this error when running wine, not happened earlier and just updated wine: wine: /home/lartza/.wine is not owned by you
[14:08] <dudeeee34> nope nothing
[14:08]  * sdakak is waiting for someone to help him with pxe install.
[14:08] <unop> lartza_, maybe this helps.   sudo chown $USER.$USER ~/.wine
[14:09] <lartza_> nope
[14:09] <pajamian> lartza_: sudo chown -R lartza.lartza ~/.wine
[14:09] <kongove> hello
[14:09] <noob13> dudeeee34: there's probably a key for it. look for a button that has the image of a sun or something as such, in the same colour as the Fn key
[14:09] <lartza_> no
[14:09] <noob13> dudeeee34: or look in your laptops manual.
[14:09] <IceKing> lartza_ become root and do chown -R lartza.users ~
[14:09] <dudeeee34> oh i got it
[14:10] <Dr_willis> It pays to read the laptops manuals. :)
[14:10] <dudeeee34> ThankYou all I have solved one of my many problems.
[14:10] <unop> lartza_, what does "no" mean?
[14:10] <lartza_> didnt work
[14:10] <noob13> dudeeee34: ;)
[14:10] <pajamian> IceKing: that will change ownership of all his root files to lartza.
[14:10] <Dr_willis> ive seen way too many people that never notice those laptop-special keys..
[14:10] <IceKing> oh yeah
[14:10] <lartza_> how do i make root password?
[14:10] <dudeeee34> I am new to ubuntu and switched from Vista.
[14:10] <unop> lartza_, define "didn't work" - what happened when you issued that command?
[14:10] <IceKing> Im dumb sorry
[14:10] <pajamian> !root | lartza_
[14:10] <ubotu> lartza_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:10] <lartza_> same error when running wine
[14:10] <unop> lartza_, you don't make a root password
[14:10] <noob13> dudeeee34: good choise :P
[14:10] <dudeeee34> I am having some problems though
[14:11] <noob13> dudeeee34: such as?
[14:11] <dudeeee34> I need help setting up Wireless now.
[14:11] <lartza_> unop: yes, su and something and then i got to select password
[14:11] <lartza_> then when doing su i had to give it
[14:11] <dudeeee34> In vista i used to click on a button and problem solved.
[14:11] <unop> lartza_, we don't recommend doing that -- sudo provides all your root needs
[14:11] <noob13> dudeeee34: thats a tough one. i have no personal experience, sorry.
[14:11] <lartza_> unop: IceKing> lartza_ become root and do chown -R lartza.users ~
[14:11] <noob13> !wireless
[14:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:11]  * sdakak wonders who can help him with pxe install
[14:11] <unop> lartza_, pay no attention to what IceKing said
[14:12] <dudeeee34> So yeah...
[14:12] <pajamian> lartza_: don't follow that advice from IceKing
[14:12] <lartza_> unop: ok
[14:12] <repley> hello, is there an alternative of 'file -i /example/path' to know the mime-type of a file?
[14:12] <lartza_> unop: Well, yours didn't work
[14:12] <IceKing> lartza_ It was bad advice
[14:12] <unop> lartza_, did pajamian's advice work?
[14:12] <pajamian> lartza_: sudo chown -R lartza.lartza ~/.wine
[14:12] <barbedsaber> I cant get frostwire to work, I click on it and nothing happens, it doesn't work with alt-f2 and I get an error when I type frostwire into the terminal.
[14:12] <lartza_> unop: and its easier to mess up with mysql when you are root
[14:13] <lartza_> still no
[14:13] <unop> lartza_, it's easy to mess anything up when you are root.
[14:13] <unop> lartza_, how exactly are you starting wine here?
[14:13] <lartza_> unop: i know, just as easy as with sudo...
[14:13] <IceKing> yeah like rm -rf * from /
[14:13] <pajamian> lartza_: what output do you get for the command: whoami
[14:13] <IceKing> then sync the disc
[14:13] <Puppy> hello, is ubuntu a livecd and an install cd?
[14:13] <lartza_> woops, runned wine with sudo
[14:13] <kongove> Information of you
[14:13] <barbedsaber> yes it is an install cd as well
[14:13] <unop> IceKing, it's better not to utter that - people blindly do execute commands
[14:14] <lartza_> removed sudo and worked :)
[14:14] <noob13> Puppy: yes.
[14:14] <me_avi> how can change the man pages color ? when I do "man bash" on my cygwin it's colored nicely and on gnome-terminal it's not as nice...
[14:14] <pajamian> lartza_: that would do it.
[14:14] <Puppy> noob13: ty
[14:14] <lartza_> pajamian: Yea, still thanks for helping
[14:15] <pajamian> lartza_: yw
[14:15] <barbedsaber> NEVER RUN SUDO RM-RF. EVER EVER! DO NOT DO IT EVER  just a reminder
[14:15] <barbedsaber> ever
[14:15] <Puppy> this channel is busy all the day
[14:15] <pajamian> IceKing: I actually saw someone come in here once who accidentally ran a command similar to that.
[14:15] <elmer> I am having the weirdest problem
[14:15] <lartza_> well cya now cause wine and xchat and amsn wont work on P3Coppermine :P
[14:15] <IceKing> oh boy ...I did it once a while ago myself
[14:15] <Puppy> 1623 people?
[14:15] <elmer> whenever I open evolution it closes itself
[14:16] <IceKing> whats up elmer?
[14:16] <barbedsaber> I cant get frostwire to work, I click on it and nothing happens, it doesn't work with alt-f2 and I get an error when I type frostwire into the terminal.
[14:16] <elmer> IceKing, whenever I open evolution it closes itself
[14:16] <unop__> barbedsaber, and the error is?
[14:16] <pajamian> barbedsaber: there are cases when you need to.  I always tell people in that occasion to just double and triple check the command before hitting Enter
[14:16] <lartza_> btw is there any other MORE lightweight wm than icewm that i could enable with --replace when necessary
[14:16] <IceKing> try opening it from a terminal
[14:16] <barbedsaber> it says Something went wrong with FrostWire.
[14:16] <barbedsaber> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[14:16] <barbedsaber> (FrostWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[14:16] <barbedsaber> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[14:17] <barbedsaber> java version "1.6.0"
[14:17] <IceKing> see the eror messages
[14:17] <FloodBot3> barbedsaber: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <barbedsaber> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[14:17] <barbedsaber> OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)
[14:17] <unop__> !paste | barbedsaber
[14:17] <ubotu> barbedsaber: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:17] <IceKing> elmer I bet youre missing a package
[14:17] <lartza_> btw is there any other MORE lightweight wm than icewm that i could enable with --replace when necessary
[14:17] <kelvin911> i just got screw up by the people in #winehq
[14:17] <unop__> lartza_, fluxbox
[14:17] <elmer> IceKing, it gave me a debug error or something. Let me dump it to a pastebin
[14:17] <pajamian> kelvin911: how?
[14:17] <IceKing> k
[14:17] <unop__> lartza_, openbox
[14:18] <kelvin911> they tell me to install 0.9.59
[14:18] <kelvin911> turns out that was bad version update
[14:18] <lartza_> unop__: so i enable it with fluxbox --replace? and that would be the most lightweight?
[14:18] <pajamian> ~$ wine --version
[14:18] <pajamian> wine-0.9.59
[14:18] <sdakak> ikonia: has come?
[14:18] <elmer> IceKing, http://slexy.org/view/s2Pt2fRI0p
[14:18] <kelvin911> how do i undo the list thing?
[14:18] <psykow> is there any software to see stockmarket?
[14:19] <lartza_> kelvin: i have same as pajamian too
[14:19] <barbedsaber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63716/
[14:19] <kelvin911> auto update keep asking me to update my wine
[14:19] <elmer> IceKing, Evolution worked fine before, but something happened apparently
[14:19] <kelvin911> hwo to undo it?
[14:19] <barbedsaber> that is the error
[14:19] <IceKing> elmer sorry havent a clue....
[14:19] <unop__> lartza_, hmm, there are many many WMs that are ultra-lighweight -- but they suffer in terms of usability, fluxbox supports both gnome and kde quite well
[14:19] <pajamian> kelvin911: why do you say it's a bad version?
[14:19] <kelvin911> because that guy just tell me
[14:19] <elmer> IceKing, dangit.
[14:19] <pajamian> kelvin911: told you what?
[14:19] <kelvin911> and all my games are unplayable after update
[14:20] <kelvin911> he said 0.9.59 has issues with directX
[14:20] <pajamian> kelvin911: so it has a regression bug, then
[14:20] <sdakak> I am trying to install ubuntu over a lan to other machines in my lab. I am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer?highlight=%28pxe%29. The dhcp server is working because when I 'boot from lan' from the client it discovers the dhcp servers ip and then gets an ip in the proper range. But then it says TFTP.....timed out. And then again TFTP.... And nothing happens. My /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf, /etc/inetd .conf and apache stuff is 
[14:20] <tekteen> Can someone help me? I have a question that can only be asked when I am to sleep deprived to think :-). How do you untar something into a specific directory?
[14:20] <alastor666> plop irc
[14:20] <kelvin911> so how to install back the old verison 0.9.46 that is in ubuntu add/remove?
[14:20] <IceKing> elmer  not info to go by could be a number of things
[14:20] <pihhan> how should i eject SD card from reader?
[14:21] <kelvin911> how to undo this wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[14:21] <Chaos666> anybody here using a linux distro as a guest OS with vbox?
[14:21] <kelvin911> and how to undo this sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[14:21] <pajamian> kelvin911: you don't need to remove the key, just uncheck the repo in the repository sources.
[14:21] <IceKing> elmer see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/157959
[14:21] <pajamian> then remove wine and install it again.
[14:21] <kelvin911> how and where?
[14:21] <Trollinator> my NetworkManager doesn't work. nm-tool says "print_devices(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager.". Does anybody know this error?
[14:22] <kongove> hello
[14:22] <pajamian> kelvin911: System / Administration / Software Sources
[14:22] <IceKing> kongove hello
[14:22] <lartza_> fluxbow --replace says other wm is already running
[14:22] <tekteen> kelvin911: rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[14:22] <unop__> sdakak, two things, verify that the tftp server is up and running on the server deploying the boot image out, and that the DHCP server is configured with the right boot image
[14:22] <pajamian> kelvin911: then monitor winehq and re-enable it when 0.9.60 comes out.
[14:23] <barbedsaber> I cant get frostwire to work, nothing happens when I click on it, alt-f2 doesn't work, and when I try to run it in terminal, I get error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63716/
[14:23] <lartza_> fluxbox --replace says other wm is already running, how xan i fix this?
[14:23] <kelvin911> tekteen method or pajamian method?
[14:23] <pajamian> kelvin911: either method works
[14:23] <tekteen> mine is one command
[14:23] <tekteen> both work
[14:24] <kongove> How long have you use linux system?
[14:24] <pajamian> kelvin911: you will need to put sudo in front of tekteen's command, though.
[14:24] <IceKing> maybe missing that lib quoted near the top of your pastebin barbedsaber
[14:24] <lartza_> kongove: Was that a general question for all?
[14:24] <tekteen> pajamian: thanks
[14:24] <elmer> IceKing, screw this. I'm downloading Thunderbird. I wanted to use it anyway.
[14:24] <kelvin911> now how to install back the old version 0.9.46?
[14:24] <sdakak> unop__: both servers are up, and the image is also right. I am exhausted. please help.
[14:25] <kongove> Yes
[14:25] <IceKing> barbedsaber see if you do have /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/motif21/libmawt.so
[14:25] <barbedsaber> sorry, i dont know what you mean IceKing
[14:25] <pajamian> kelvin911: remove wine
[14:25] <kelvin911> after i delete the list file do i goto add/remove and search for wine?
[14:25]  * sdakak ikonia
[14:25] <Float> Hey, I'm having some trouble setting up a static ip and forwarding the ports I need for Azureus... can anyone help?
[14:25] <pajamian> kelvin911: then run sudo apt-get update
[14:25] <pajamian> kelvin911: then sudo apt-get install wine
[14:25] <IceKing> look in the folder:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/motif21/
[14:25] <IceKing> on you r disc
[14:25] <Lake> weirdest thing: my headless server has just the ability to connect to the interneT
[14:25] <kongove> Float：config it into files
[14:25] <Lake> it works in LAN but it's unable to ping google's ip
[14:26] <Lake> cue if anyone finds this time-wasting worthy
[14:26] <IceKing> barbedsaber and look there for a file called libmawt.so
[14:26] <unop__> sdakak, i've never done netboots with linux - can't really help you with the details - use a tftp client on the tftp server and try and connect to the tftp "share" - verify that the boot image is included in that dir.
[14:26] <lartza_> kongove: I have used about year and a half
[14:26] <unop__> sdakak, if you have any firewalls, ensure that they accomodate tftp
[14:26] <kongove> Latza:I am Chinese,where are you from?
[14:28] <Float> When I try to edit /etc/network/interfaces, there is a lot less in the file then this site says there should be.
[14:28] <barbedsaber> I have /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386  but no motif21
[14:28] <sdakak> unop__: all this is under one switch, so no firewalls in between.
[14:28] <TRC2908> hello, im trying to mount an ext hard drive via the terminal, i think first i need to edit
[14:28] <TRC2908>  etc/fstab, ie how do i sort out root privileges and editing fstab
[14:28] <pajamian> kelvin911: you can run these commands, if you want...
[14:28] <pajamian> kelvin911: sudo apt-get remove wine
[14:28] <lartza_> Can you use fluxbox as a window manager?
[14:28] <unop__> sdakak, i mean, on the server itself, things like iptables
[14:28] <pajamian> kelvin911: sudo apt-get update
[14:28] <IceKing> barbedsaber frostwire seems to want that lib
[14:28] <pajamian> kelvin911: sudo apt-get install wine
[14:28] <barbedsaber> so, do I aot-get it
[14:29] <IceKing> maybe it lives somewhere else on your disc
[14:29] <kelvin911> i reinstall 0.9.46 but the game is still unplayable
[14:29] <pajamian> kelvin911: try re-installing the game, then.
[14:29] <lartza_> kelvin: all programs wont owrk on wine
[14:29] <ratatosk> which mp3 player is the most used one by ubuntu/linux users? i guess it's the ipod (seems to offer the most gb per $) ... but i'm looking for a player that's flash-based (and has a good gb/$ value). which one would you recommend?
[14:29] <pajamian> kelvin911: also, maybe the problem wasn't the new version of wine.
[14:29] <kongove> kongove@ubuntu:~/Desktop/pigeons/pigeons/src$ wine --version
[14:29] <kongove> wine-0.9.46
[14:29] <lartza_> ratatosk: ipod :D
[14:30] <lartza_> ratatosk: nano and shuffle have flash
[14:30] <zionpsyfer> Float: By default it's fairly sparse.  You can fill it in though.
[14:30] <kongove> You may can not install last wine by apt
[14:30] <pajamian> kongove: sure you can
[14:30] <murlidhar> ok 348 files could not be downloaded using jigdo . what is to be done ? can be it done by rsync ?
[14:30] <kongove> download the source codes,and complise it .
[14:30] <sdakak> unop__: I have manually turned it off from firestarter.
[14:31] <pajamian> kongove: you just follow the directions here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[14:31] <kelvin911> the game rtcw works fine
[14:31] <sdakak> unop__: And I can get ip/ubuntu from other lan machines browser window too
[14:31] <unop__> sdakak, can you connect to tftp on the same machine?
[14:31] <barbedsaber> I searched for it in tracker, and got nothing. I tried to apt-get it, but it doesn;t exist
[14:31] <kelvin911> until i install 0.9.59
[14:31] <kelvin911> then everything screw up
[14:31] <lartza_> you can install previous wine version by manual install (download deb to desktop and double click
[14:31] <zionpsyfer> Float: this might help:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:31] <pajamian> kelvin911: did you check the appdb for the game?
[14:31] <kelvin911> now i install back the previous version
[14:31] <lordleemo> kongove: why source code ? go here http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html and get the proper deb package
[14:31] <kelvin911> but the game is bad now
[14:31] <kelvin911> rtcw was fine
[14:32] <kelvin911> i  was playing it for the past week
[14:32] <pajamian> lordleemo: why a deb package when there's a repo?
[14:32] <kelvin911> until i update it hrs ago
[14:32] <kongove> Oh,yes.I means using the default source.list
[14:32] <murlidhar> ok 348 files could not be downloaded using jigdo . what is to be done ? can be it done by rsync ?
[14:32] <murlidhar> anybody?
[14:32] <lordleemo> pajamian: sorry you are correct however better a deb than build the source
[14:32] <kongove> which game do you want to install by wine?
[14:33] <kelvin911> i guess i am going to try restart the computer and see what happen
[14:33] <barbedsaber> iceking, where r u
[14:33] <Float> zionpsyfer: I've been to that site... maybe I'm just not understanding this.
[14:34] <Jadd76> What do the @@ things in the bzr diff mean?
[14:34] <Float> zionpsyfer: the only thing in the file is "auto lo
[14:34] <Float> iface lo inet loopback
[14:34] <Float> "
[14:35] <sdakak> unop__: how do i do that?
[14:35] <pauldacheez> ...
[14:36] <ratatosk> lartza_: ipod nano or shuffle are very neat (and well supported under linux, apparently) but they're a bit overpriced for my taste... i'm surprised there isn't a standard device people immediately recommend (like the wrt54gl when it comes to routers)
[14:36] <zionpsyfer> Float: Could you pastebin it for me?
[14:36] <TRC2908> hello, im trying to mount an ext hard drive via the terminal, i think first i need to edit etc/fstab, ie how do i sort out root privileges and editing fstab, anyone know how?
[14:36] <Float> That's all there is.
[14:36] <Float> there's two lines.
[14:36] <nonewmsgs> TRC2908: what file system
[14:36] <mechdave> TRC2908, All you needto do is to use the mount command
[14:36] <sdakak> unop__: i said tftp localhost at terminal now?
[14:37] <TRC2908> all i know is the device is called sda
[14:37] <pxeHelp> eu
[14:37] <pajamian> TRC2908: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[14:37] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok, what type of partition is on the device?
[14:38] <TRC2908> i dunno
[14:38] <zionpsyfer> Float: ifconfig shows you have additional nics that are up?
[14:38] <pxeHelp> ikonia: Can you help me?
[14:38] <mechdave> TRC2908, does it work in windows?
[14:38] <pajamian> TRC2908: usually if you just plug the drive in ubuntu will recognize it and mount it for you
[14:39] <neil_d> why does gedit find the gfax printer but python scripts do not ?
[14:39] <linkmaster03> wow i love ubuntu :D
[14:39] <will> it's not one of these new seagate external drives is it?
[14:39] <linkmaster03> got my printer working over the network, scanning over the network
[14:39] <Float> zionpsyfer: Er... sorry? You may have to bare with me a little. I'm still very new to ubuntu.
[14:39] <will> aren't they incompatible with linux
[14:39] <pajamian> linkmaster03: what printer do you have (just curious)?
[14:39] <TRC2908> it worked gr8 in windows and ive closed it down properly.  "usually" isnt applying in this case
[14:40] <luke_> hi there peeps i have been on gnome for a really long time is there another light weight desktop which looks neat and is fast i could try
[14:40] <neil_d> \join #python
[14:40] <sirjulio> what's the command for current working directory?
[14:40] <luke_> need to do some geeky stuff this weekend
[14:40] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok what is the brand and model of the drive?
[14:40] <luke_> neil_d, wrong slash :D
[14:40] <mechdave> sirjulio, pwd
[14:40] <pajamian> TRC2908: it's a USB drive, right?  did you plug it in before ot after booting up ubuntu?
[14:40] <nonewmsgs> luke xfce and icewin
[14:40] <TRC2908> maxtor mini iii  usb yes
[14:40] <luke_> nonewmsgs, hmm checking
[14:41] <luke_> anything else is which is nice and fast
[14:41] <zionpsyfer> Float: No worries mate.  If you open up network manager, what interfaces does it show?
[14:41] <luke_> how is enlightment now?
[14:41] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok try mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[14:41] <pajamian> TRC2908: what about the last question?  before or after booting up ubuntu?
[14:41] <TRC2908> it was prob plugged in before i booted ub
[14:41] <sriramoman> how do you setup launch feedback delay for panels in gnome?
[14:41] <neil_d> luke_: yes :)
[14:41] <pajamian> TRC2908: unplug the usb cable wait about 30 seconds and plug it back in
[14:42] <pajamian> TRC2908: then wait a few more seconds.
[14:42] <MGS88> hi
[14:42] <sriramoman> i mean if i open a program, the program would have opened yet in the task bar it would say "Launching program xyz"
[14:43] <Float> zionpsyfer: Network Manager? You mean when I click the two computers at the top of the screen, right?
[14:43] <TRC2908> tried  "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt" and got  "only root can do that
[14:43] <TRC2908> "
[14:43] <MGS88> can I format Ext3 partition and swap by live CD?
[14:44] <zionpsyfer> Float: Indeed, double click the two computers in the upper right.
[14:44] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok try sudo in front of it all
[14:44] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[14:44] <mechdave> TRC2908, then put in your password when it asks for one
[14:44] <zionpsyfer> Float: Or go to your System menu -> Administration -> Network
[14:44] <Float> zionpsyfer: Wired, set to roaming, and modem connection, which is deactivated
[14:45] <TRC2908> mechdave -     "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[14:45] <TRC2908> "
[14:45] <pajamian> TRC2908: try what I said a min ago.
[14:46]  * pxeHelp wonders why no one responds to his pxe question
[14:46] <zionpsyfer> Float: Alright, and the wired connection, you wish it to be a static IP, correct?
[14:46] <TRC2908> pajamian - done that heaps of times
[14:46] <pajamian> TRC2908: ok, then
[14:46] <Float> zionpsyfer: That's right.
[14:47] <pajamian> TRC2908: good luck, I have to head off.  Someone here will be able to get it to work for you.
[14:47] <zionpsyfer> Float: In the Network Manager window, click on the wired connection and click the Properties button.
[14:47] <MGS88> I want format Ext3 partition and swap by live CD is that possible
[14:47] <TRC2908> guys - sure i dont need to edit fstab as there is no ref to sda there ?
[14:48] <Float> Zionpsyfer: And... just set it to static?
[14:48] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok pastebin the last 20 odd lines from dmesg for me
[14:48] <pajamian> TRC2908: yep, fstab is mainly for drives that are permanantly on your system, if you only want to mount a drive once you can supply all the info fstab keeps directly to the mount command.
[14:48] <zionpsyfer> Float: Yep.
[14:49] <elmer> when I update to Hardy, how big is the download going to be?
[14:49] <zamba> how do i enable s-video out on ubuntu?
[14:50] <Float> zionpsyfer: Surely it's not that simple. How do I know what to set the ip to and the subnet and gateway masks and all that?
[14:50] <MGS88>  I want only format Ext3 partition and swap by live CD is that possible
[14:50] <CaBlGuY> anyone help me printing envelopes in open office 2.3?
[14:50] <astro76> elmer: probably about a few hundred MB
[14:50] <TRC2908> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63722/
[14:51] <astro76> MGS88: the livecd includes gparted (system > admin > partition editor
[14:51] <elmer> astro76, thanks
[14:51] <CaBlGuY> TRC2908, looks like you have yourself a defective HDD there...
[14:52] <kjdx> How do I delete a bindshell on my server?
[14:52] <TRC2908> it works on windows
[14:52] <mechdave> TRC2908, Ok unplug the drive and wait about 1 min and then plug it back in, then paste the dmesg again please, this info is not what I need
[14:52] <CaBlGuY> TRC2908,  pfffttt   yea.  well, windowz will "see" anything....
[14:52] <zionpsyfer> Float: If you're setting up a static IP, you need to know what you want your ip address to be.  If you're on a basic home network, you'll probably want an IP on the same subnet with the same netmask.  I.E. if the other devices on the network are all 192.168.0.*  then you'll probably want a 192.168.0.whatever address.
[14:52] <MGS88> astro76: thank you but its locked
[14:53] <astro76> MGS88: in gparted, right click on partitoin and select unmount
[14:53] <wolfwalker> Given that Gnomebaker and K3B take so long to burn a cd because the files are .ogg and .ogg is a bit complex........... what would be a more simple format?
[14:53] <CaBlGuY> TRC2908,  are u able to boot into Linux?
[14:53] <wolfwalker> Um......... more simple compressed format that is
[14:53] <TRC2908> there were references to the maxtor further up in demsg - would that have helped - you mentioned the last 20 linesit further up above
[14:54] <zionpsyfer> Float: Be sure that the IP address you pick will not be given out by the dhcp server(if there is one).  Also, pay attention to the netmask.  255.255.255.0 is common, if the other devices use that, then you should as well.
[14:54] <mechdave> TRC I was not expecting so many errors :(
[14:54] <MGS88> astro76: thank you very much
[14:54] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: Is there a nice proggie to graphically see your used disk space, all gnome-integrated? I don't mean "tell me how much free space do i have", that's obvious, but "What's taking the free space, in order?" or something like that
[14:54] <mechdave> TRC2908,  I was not expecting so many errors :(
[14:54] <Float> zionpsyfer: So, does it matter what I choose as my own IP as long as it won't be given out by dhcp?
[14:55] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  u got that?
[14:55] <CaBlGuY> helpin him I mean..
[14:55] <mechdave> CaBlGuY, sorry, got what?
[14:56] <Lake> I second Jimmymaniac's question
[14:56] <wolfwalker> I third it
[14:56] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  helping TRC2908  I enant..  U good with that?  I can help possibly..
[14:56] <pxeHelp> I am really tired. Last plea.
[14:56] <zionpsyfer> Float: No, but be sure the subnet is the same.  The first three octets of the IP should match what the dhcp server is giving out (unless you are purposely and knowingly deviating) for simplicity sake.
[14:56] <CaBlGuY> *meant
[14:57] <Float> zionpsyfer: Yeah, of course. wow, I didn't think this was that simple.
[14:57] <astro76> pxeHelp: in my /lastlog I see please... but no actual question... try asking again
[14:57] <pxeHelp> I am trying to install ubuntu over a lan to other machines in my lab. I am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer?highlight=%28pxe%29. The dhcp server is working because when I 'boot from lan' from the client it discovers the dhcp servers ip and then gets an ip in the proper range. But then it says TFTP.....timed out. And then again TFTP.... And nothing happens. My /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf, /etc/inetd .conf and apache stuff is same 
[14:57] <astro76> s/please/pleas/
[14:57] <pxeHelp> ikonia: ^ please
[14:57] <Float> zionpsyfer: And how do I find my gateway adress?
[14:58] <mechdave> CaBlGuY, yeah I should be ok, just sorting out what his usb drive is doing right now... seems like Ubuntu is doing something funny
[14:58] <linkinxp> Float tpye ifconfig
[14:58] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  ok..  just checkin.. ;)
[14:58] <TRC2908> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63723/
[14:58] <zionpsyfer> Float:  That would be your routers address.  I.E. if your subnet is 192.168.0.* it is most likely 192.168.0.1.
[14:59] <mechdave> CaBlGuY, no worries, if you have any ideas just jump in :)
[14:59] <TRC2908> another batch from dmesg sorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63723/
[14:59] <Jimmymaniac> damn, had to find it just *after* asking :)  On the main menu, in accesories, there's a "Disk usage analizer" icon. That one seems to do the job
[15:00] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  well, just off the top of my head..  whatever type of drive that is has some bad sectors or, ubuntu is not reading it right if it's a usb drive..
[15:00] <wolfwalker> Given that Gnomebaker and K3B take so long to burn a cd because the files are .ogg and .ogg is a bit complex........... what would be a more simple compressed format?
[15:00] <pxeHelp> astro76: ^?
[15:00] <astro76> pxeHelp: I was saying to repeat your question, which you did ;)
[15:01] <wdh> is this a bug? 'mount' does not show that my rootdir is mounted..
[15:01] <pxeHelp> astro76: now? I am stuck.
[15:01] <pxeHelp> even ikonia is not around :(
[15:01] <Float> zionpsyfer: Well, the dhcp hands out 192.168.1.* ips...
[15:02] <astro76> wdh: it should
[15:02] <astro76> pxeHelp: now I see I don't know the answer... hopefully someone else will ;)
[15:02] <zionpsyfer> Float: Alright, so your router is probably 192.168.1.1
[15:02] <gnuskool> is ogg really more complex than mp3 for instance?
[15:02] <Float> zionpsyfer: Alright...
[15:02] <Jimmymaniac> Ok, that was all, thanks :)
[15:02]  * pxeHelp has been waiting since ages for someone to drop by.
[15:03] <mechdave> CaBlGuY, seems like it isn't being assigned a device file see --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63723/
[15:03] <astro76> pxeHelp: you might try ##linux too
[15:03] <gnuskool> suggestions for another environment other than gnome or kde or xfce?
[15:03] <pihhan> hello
[15:04] <pihhan> anyone does know if memory cards should be officially supported?
[15:04] <jrib> gnuskool: fluxbox, some other *box, xmonad, awesome, ratpoison?
[15:04] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  seems like he's dealing with some bad sectors...  and when he boots back up,m Ubuntu is not able to read those sectors so, he's not able to resume from disk....
[15:04] <gooody> anyone knows how to unzip zip files in ubuntu gutsy?
[15:04] <NW2190> Hi, I'm going to install a the new RC today and completely get rid of Gutsy.  Is there a way that I could carry over my firefox setup though?
[15:05] <wolfwalker> Given that Gnomebaker and K3B take so long to burn a cd because the files are .ogg and .ogg is a bit complex........... what would be a more simple compressed format?
[15:05] <s_> hi i need help pls
[15:05] <jrib> !ask | s_
[15:05] <ubotu> s_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:05] <pihhan> gooody: command unzip, if gui does not offer tools for that
[15:05] <linkinxp> NW2190:  are you going to change to hardy?
[15:05] <CaBlGuY> gooody, all you need to do is iinstall the packages that support zip files for archiver..
[15:06] <gooody> ok. thanks.
[15:06] <mechdave> CaBlGuY, Do you reckon if he booted into windows and ran scandisk and defrag it would fix it?
[15:06] <jrib> !zip > gooody (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:06] <CaBlGuY> gooody,  no worries.. ;)
[15:06] <francisco> hi
[15:06] <astro76> wolfwalker: not really, most formats like .ogg and .mp3 are relatively easy to decode compared to encode (i.e. it takes little cpu to play or convert to wav to burn cd in your case)
[15:06] <Floa1> zionpsyfer: Alright... that seemed to work. Thanks.
[15:07] <mechdave> TRC2908, try running scandisk to fix errors and defrag on your drive from windows and then try again
[15:07] <CaBlGuY> mechdave,  well, that's kinda an oxy-moron aint it..  (windows and fix it)  LOL    but, he could give it a try,..  but, if it's the HDD and not the USB drive, he needs to get a good HDD...
[15:07] <NW2190> linkinxp: ya
[15:07] <gnuskool> jrib: arent them other*.boxes wms, im  i am considering e17, but i hear its also just a wm, thus missing a few other things
[15:07] <zionpsyfer> Floa1: No worries, glad I could help. =)
[15:07] <NW2190> actually I think it will save it anyway since I have a seperate home partition...
[15:07] <linkinxp> NW2190:  dont need to reinstall just upgrade from the  console
[15:07] <wolfwalker> astro76 all I know is this is a slow computer, but nero takes WAY less time (dual boot) than either Gnomebaker or K3B.  Most of the time is spent decoding audio format to cd audio.
[15:07] <jrib> gnuskool: all of the ones I listed are just wm's.  I don't really know of other "environments" other than GNOME, KDE, and XFCE
[15:08] <astro76> wolfwalker: using .ogg's with nero too?
[15:08] <NW2190> linkinxp: ya but I want to clean up everything cuz I messed around a lot with gutsy and installed loads of programs that I never use
[15:08] <Odd-rationale> gnuskool: consider lxde (http://lxde.sf.net)
[15:08] <wolfwalker> Using mp3, wav, wma with nero.  Using mp3 with K3B and Gnomebaker too, and they still take forever.
[15:08] <Floa1> Zionpsyfer: Alright! And Azureus seems to be working nicely too. Thanks!
[15:08] <linkinxp> NW2190:  ho i see well then i agree with you lol
[15:08] <pihhan> !hardy
[15:08] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:09] <gnuskool> Odd-rationale: thx
[15:09] <theDtTvB2|Hardy> After upgrading to Hardy miro stopped working. It says "no module named xlibhelper". What should I do?
[15:09] <NW2190> linkinxp: haha ya. But hopefully the bookmarks and plugins are on the home directory
[15:09] <linkinxp> NW2190:  i think so yes
[15:09] <NW2190> k cool
[15:09] <TRC2908> mechdave -thanks for the input - i'll have to reloaded windows to do that ( i haven't kept the OS on the PC) might be a job for tomorrow
[15:09] <jrib> theDtTvB2|Hardy: hardy help in #ubuntu+1
[15:10] <linkinxp> NW2190:  try to search inside firefox in settings
[15:10] <zionpsyfer> Floa1: Nice!  Grats on your first static IP on linux. =P
[15:10] <pihhan> how can i unmount device automatically mounted by system after media insert?
[15:10] <theDtTvB2|Hardy> jrib: Thanks.
[15:10] <TRC2908> i was thinking i had to configure mount points in fstab from something I i read on "www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
[15:10] <jrib> pihhan: right click on it, eject
[15:10] <pihhan> jrib: what could i do, if it does not have such menu item?
[15:10] <jrib> pihhan: use the 'umount' command
[15:11] <astro76> wolfwalker: so forget the question about which format... the real question is why k3b or gnomebaker take longer than nero to do the same thing... I really don't know the answer to that :S
[15:11] <wolfwalker> :/
[15:11] <noob-africa> hello all
[15:11] <NW2190> linkinxp: ya I'm doing that now. I found a folder under ~/.mozilla that has a lot of the settings so I think it will be fine. It really wouldn't be horrible if i lost the bookmarks anyway.
[15:11] <linkinxp> NW2190:  lol ok good
[15:11] <mechdave> TRC2908, You could try fsck if the usb drive is vfat format
[15:12] <noob-africa> does anyone know how to manage user rights on Joomla 1.5.2? i have admin access on my localhost, but i dont have write persmisison on the templates folder
[15:13] <pihhan> jrib:  LANG=en_US umount -v /media/disk/
[15:13] <pihhan> umount: /media/disk is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[15:13] <sutabi> is the amd64 edition suitable for mac mini intel version?
[15:13] <pxeHelp> when I say tftp localhost; get pxelinux.0 and the request times out.
[15:13] <mechdave> sutabi, is the mac 64 bit?
[15:13] <TuxPWNZ> Can I add new applets that can be used on the desktop panel?
[15:14] <jrib> pihhan: so what does 'mount' return all alone
[15:14] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis: remember me?  I did updates, upgrades, and sitll can't sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client.  Says there are unmet dependencies
[15:14] <koshari> ubuntu gutsy, can connect to wan with wifi using roaming and can access one of the desktops lamp server fine however i cannot ping the gateway which is 192.168.0.1.  however the same laptop using windows can access the gateway, any ideas?
[15:15] <TRC2908> fsck =   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63724/
[15:15] <pihhan> jrib: /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)
[15:15] <amenado> koshari-> paste in pastebin your ifconfig; route -n; cat /etc/resolf.conf
[15:15] <Coggz> -Linux has left this server ("Ex-Chat").
[15:15] <Coggz> [11:34] --> pria_pemuas__ has joined this channel
[15:15] <jrib> pihhan: so what does 'sudo umount /dev/mmcblk0p1' return?
[15:16] <mechdave> sutabi, It says on the mac page it is 64 bit and as long the system is intel it should work
[15:16] <sutabi> mechdave: yes arn't all intel 2 duo 64?
[15:16] <pxeHelp> jrib: Can you help me with a tftp server that doesn't serve the files to pxe clients?
[15:16] <jrib> pxeHelp: I don't know how to do that
[15:16] <amenado> pihhan-> sudo  umount /media/disk
[15:16] <mechdave> TRC2908, what happens if you plug in the usb drive and then try fsck /dev/sda
[15:16] <koshari> amenado , is that one line?
[15:17] <amenado> koshari can be, notice the ;
[15:17] <koshari> ok
[15:17] <TRC2908> i havent proceeded with the y/n by the way - i'll give fsck /dev/sda a go
[15:17] <mechdave> sutabi, dunno, I am a bit out of touch with the processors at the moment
[15:17] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  Its possible that file it watns is missing form the servers or some other oddity. Im using hardy here. so cant test for you. You might want to try changing the apt sources to another server.
[15:17] <amenado> koshari but its best to have in different lines
[15:18] <FastZ> craigbass1976:  sudo aptitude install libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libmysqlclient150ff libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server-5.0
[15:18] <whabo>  hello is there a way to recognize my labtec 1200 webcam on ubuntuis not working at all .. thank you
[15:18] <TRC2908> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63725/
[15:19] <matrix> i want to disable ip6
[15:19] <matrix> how can i do it ?
[15:20] <FastZ> matrix: why?
[15:20] <matrix> because i dont want to use it
[15:20] <FastZ> matrix: you're more than likely NOT using it.
[15:20] <astro76> !ipv6 | matrix
[15:20] <ubotu> matrix: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:20] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok try fdisk -l (that is a lower case L) /dev/sda
[15:21] <muratsplat> is there turkish   here
[15:21] <muratsplat> ?
[15:21] <TRC2908> fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[15:21] <SuRfDeMoN> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and have two laptops running ubuntu on the same network. I need to transfer files from one laptop to another. Does anyone know of a tutorial that can tell me how I can do this? Cheers!
[15:21] <mechdave> TRC2908, yep
[15:21] <astro76> !tr | muratsplat
[15:21] <ubotu> muratsplat: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[15:21] <koshari> amenado are you sure the resolf.conf is the correct filename?
[15:21] <herbaliser> hi how do i start wlan network manager?
[15:21] <ompaul> resolv.conf
[15:22] <tpp> I'm trying to compile something and i can see that libgfortran is in the path, but when I try to compile it says: '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran'
[15:22] <amenado> FastZ not quite true, you have heard of firefox browsing being slow because of ipv6 being active and it try to resolv ipv6 first before ipv4
[15:22] <amenado> koshari re-read what i typed
[15:22] <herbaliser> hi how do i start wlan network manager?
[15:22] <warren_> hi
[15:22] <pihhan> amenado: thanks, in fact i know what i need to do, what i dont know is where should i report bug, which package/part it does belong
[15:22] <mechdave> SuRfDeMoN, try http://www.tldp.org in the HOWTO section on either nfs or samba
[15:22] <Trollinator> my NetworkManager doesn't work. nm-tool says "print_devices(): didn't get a reply from NetworkManager.". Does anybody know this error?
[15:22] <peenut> hi
[15:22] <SuRfDeMoN> mechdave, cheers :D
[15:22] <Trollinator> herbaliser: /etc/init.d/network-manager start
[15:23] <warren_> i saw you can now ask for ubuntu cds of hardy heron, but if you ask now, they said 6-10 weeks, is that from today or 6-10 weeks after hardy is out?
[15:23] <Trollinator> herbaliser: and then you can use knetworkmanager or whatever to access it.
[15:23] <mechdave> SuRfDeMoN, no worries, let us know if you have any problems
[15:23] <Trollinator> unless you have the problem i'm trying to solve
[15:23] <lou_> ciao
[15:23] <astro76> warren_: what's the difference, hardy is out in < 1 week ;)
[15:23] <TRC2908> nothing at all seemed to happen - did i get command right   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63726/
[15:23] <FastZ> amenado: no i haven't heard that until just now.  I followed the link that astro76 posted...interesting.  I've never had any problems that I am aware of
[15:23] <amenado> pihhan-> look in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases  and  alias net-pf-10 off
[15:23] <warren_> astro76 : only to know , 1 week is long :p
[15:23] <herbaliser> id don't have network-manager in init.d
[15:24] <lou_> hola
[15:24] <Trollinator> herbaliser: then it's probably not installed
[15:24] <lou_> ce qualcuno che parlaitaliano
[15:25] <mechdave> TRC2908, have you plugged in your drive? Oh hang on maybe try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:25] <nonewmsgs> hardy gives me much problems i hope hey are addressed before relese
[15:25] <amenado> herbaliser-> never was there to begin with..which os do you have?
[15:25] <TRC2908> the usb drives been plugged in the last while
[15:25] <FastZ> herbaliser: I dont have network-manager in /etc/init.d either.  I dont think it's supposed to be in there actually
[15:25] <Trollinator> lou_: si. cmq dovresti andare in #ubuntu-it
[15:25] <astro76> warren_: my point is that 6-10 weeks + <1 week ~= 6-10 weeks
[15:25] <warren_> ok
[15:25] <herbaliser> Ubuntu 7.10
[15:25] <astro76> :D
[15:26] <pihhan> amenado: no, i have problem with SD card. i have ipv6 pretty functional and dont have reason to turn it off.
[15:26] <amenado> herbaliser-> never was there to begin with...so dont look for it there
[15:26] <astro76> warren_: probably be closer to the 6 anyway ;)
[15:26] <TRC2908> nothing happened!
[15:26] <warren_> and is the rc image the final image or not?
[15:26] <Sinnerman> previously, after a while, my laptop would blank the screen then poweroff the lcd monitor if i was away for a while, now it only blanks the screen. why, and how do i fix it? i've not changed anything in the power management section.
[15:26] <amenado> pihhan-> why did you mention ipv6 then? what has it got to do with your SD card?
[15:26] <astro76> warren_: it could be
[15:27] <neeto> I am using an apple keyboard for no other reason than the fact that it's sexy hardware. unfortunately though, CTRL+ALT+F# doesn't work the way it should. what can I use to remap it to something else?
[15:27] <wolfwalker> How might one convince K3B to burn wma files?
[15:27] <astro76> warren_: probably will be at least a few minor changes
[15:27] <warren_> ok
[15:27] <Dr_willis> wolfwalker,  you mean create an audio cd from a wma file?
[15:27] <wolfwalker> Yup
[15:27] <amenado> neeto-> xkb ? xmodmap?
[15:28] <Dr_willis> find some tool to convert  wma to wav would be the best place to start wolfwalker . i doubt if kb3 can auto-convert them
[15:28] <neeto> amenado: maybe. I've used xmodmap before but it screwed up the rest of my config :/
[15:28] <wolfwalker> Oh well
[15:28] <jon_high9000> hi there. is there an alternative to gdesklets for loading desklets. i tried gdesklets last night and it didnt work. i done research and found at least other programs one being GetArch.
[15:28] <amenado> neeto i dont know how to use it yet either.
[15:28] <wolfwalker> What formats will K3B handle besides wav, ogg and mp3?
[15:28] <mechdave> TRC2908, should look like this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63727/
[15:28] <pihhan> amenado: ipv6 problem was not problem of mine, you should target someone else
[15:29] <herbaliser> amenado how can i start it then it used to work
[15:29] <Odd-rationale> wolfwalker: flac, i beleive
[15:29] <Dr_willis> wolfwalker,  never noticed. :) those 3 are the main ones.. proberly flac, and some others
[15:29] <zionpsyfer> wolfwalker:  would this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[15:29] <TRC2908> so how do i tag messages to you people - im new ohn this xchat
[15:29] <amenado> pihhan-> you are right, mixed up..
[15:29] <ColdBeer> hey does anyone in hear know about .htaccess?
[15:29] <astro76> !tab | TRC2908
[15:29] <ubotu> TRC2908: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:30] <Bert_2> Hi, I want to mount a DVD image of a film so that xine-ui player can play it (I know I can play .iso files with mplayer but it screws menu's etc. and if I use loop it isn't recognised as a DVD film), does anybody know how I can do this ?
[15:30] <astro76> TRC2908: basically just type the complete nickname, which tab completion can help with
[15:30] <tomolds> What would you consider to be the best FTP client in Ubuntu?
[15:30] <koshari> amenado http://paste.ubuntu.com/7504/
[15:30] <mechdave> TRC2908, try mech<tab>
[15:30] <zionpsyfer> tomolds: I'm partial to gftp
[15:30]  * vova_kubba say that House M.D. is superb
[15:30] <Dr_willis> Bert_2,  often you can just point the player  at one of the .vob files on the disk and it will play the movie.  thats what i tend to do to get past the menu stuff.
[15:30] <TRC2908> ah, type a few characters and hit tab
[15:30] <_3mendo> hi all
[15:31] <astro76> tomolds: you can use the file manager (places > connect to server...), there's also gftp and probably others
[15:31] <_3mendo> just a little help I can't download nothing from irc, what I can do I'm new of linux
[15:31] <vova_kubba> _3mendo: hi
[15:31] <Dr_willis> I tend to avoide getting things from irc. :)
[15:31] <amenado> koshari-> now which interface do you want to use? eth0 or eth1? they dont not currently have ipv4 ip addres per your paste..
[15:31] <_3mendo> I just installed yesterday I din't touch any firewall
[15:31] <astro76> _3mendo: you might want to ask in the channel for your IRC client
[15:32] <mechdave> TRC2908, I type trc<tab> and it auto completes your nick for me, it then makes the writing go red in your window
[15:32] <zvacet> wolfwalker: Try http://pacpl.sourceforge.net/downloads.html It is text based but in you have Amarok you will have GUI
[15:32] <Calcifer> if i install the release candidate, can i upgrade to the final release without having to download the whole new iso?
[15:32] <remi> I installed Windows XP on a new partition, but now, it won't boot with Ubuntu anymore, only Windows! What can I do?
[15:32] <zvacet> Calcifer:yes1
[15:32] <Calcifer> cool.
[15:32] <DJones> !final | Calcifer
[15:32] <ubotu> Calcifer: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[15:32] <TRC2908> mechdave,
[15:32] <_3mendo> astro76:  is just xchat and I'have already check in the option is everything fine
[15:32] <ompaul> !grub | remi
[15:32] <ubotu> remi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:32] <vova_kubba> wht torrent client can you advice ? ;)
[15:32] <astro76> !fixgrub | remi
[15:32] <vova_kubba> what
[15:32] <TRC2908> mechdave, just a test
[15:32] <koshari> i want to use eth1
[15:33] <mechdave> TRC2908, yep that is it
[15:33] <astro76> !grub | remi
[15:33] <amenado> !who | koshari
[15:33] <ubotu> koshari: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:33] <zvacet> vova_kubba: Transmission
[15:33] <remi> ompaul: thanks!
[15:33] <asathoor> on boot LIRC is not configured, however I don't have a remote - can I safely remove lirc? Or would that action ruin my MythTV?
[15:33] <mechdave> TRC2908, afk for a bit, just spilt my food
[15:33] <astro76> whoops ;)
[15:33] <volton> Hi I have got a question about the pgp-keys in 8.04, are these complete independant from the password key?
[15:33] <vova_kubba> zvacet: is it good and comfirtable ? :)
[15:33] <vova_kubba> comfortable
[15:33] <amenado> volton please visit #ubuntu+1
[15:33] <asathoor> !lirc
[15:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:33] <koshari> amenado i wish to use eth1 the wireless connection.
[15:33] <volton> sure thx
[15:33] <TRC2908> mechdave, ok
[15:33] <zvacet> vova_kubba: yes,but it is best to try it yourself
[15:34] <NW2190> is there a way to transfer a MySQL db from one comp to another?
[15:34] <vova_kubba> zvacet: oh, thanks ;)
[15:34] <zionpsyfer> NW2190:  Aye, check the man page for mysqldump.
[15:34] <amenado> koshari-> 1st thing is you need a ipv4 ip address for your nics, get them, am assuming you are using dhcp? better yet, explain or elaborate on your  network layout
[15:34] <Coggz> ok, i would like someone to aid me in getting hotkeys on my Acer Travelmate C111TCi (C110) working, that includes wlan, Bluetooth, volume...
[15:35] <asathoor> NW2190 >> from MyPHP-admin you could dump the database - and import the file to another system
[15:35] <amenado> NW2190-> yes there is, but that is a mysql support issue not ubuntu, please visit #mysql
[15:35] <NW2190> amenado: oh ya sorry about that.
[15:35] <Sinnerman> previously, after a while, my laptop would blank the screen then poweroff the lcd monitor if i was away for a while, now it only blanks the screen. why, and how do i fix it? i've not changed anything in the power management section.
[15:35] <koshari> amenado i are using an AP @ 192.168.0.252 and i have a router @ 192.168.0.1
[15:35] <herbaliser> my nm-applet is nog longer starting when i boot into gnome i'm unable to connect to my wlan how do i start it
[15:35] <amenado> koshari again, please explain and elaborate on your network layout, what is connected to what
[15:36] <DeadLy_sp> hello !
[15:36] <craigbass1976> FastZ: Thank you very much
[15:36] <craigbass1976> FastZ: Oh wait, nothing installed...
[15:36] <FastZ> what does it say?
[15:36] <zvacet> herbaliser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495
[15:36] <Siph0n> hey, I made a network folder, it uses samba, but how do I see it from other computers (mostly windows) on my network...  or would this better be asked in a windows chatroom?
[15:37] <_3mendo> astro76:  so you think that is only a irc client problem ??
[15:37] <vova_kubba> !quote ``
[15:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote `` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:37] <jgoo> Hi everyone! I just installed HH8.04 beta - during live session network was working fine, but as soon as I installed and rebooted, the network was in 'roaming' mode. I've tried setting it to DHCP, and static (both should work) and nothing happens... I can't ping local network or otherwise
[15:37] <astro76> _3mendo: yes, iptables ( the linux firewall) blocks nothing by default
[15:37] <jgoo> It does however pick up the DNS settings from the DHCP server I noticed...
[15:38] <zionpsyfer> NW2190: jump in #zionpsyfer for the mysql question.
[15:38] <dtamas> last.fm player for ubuntu?
[15:38] <jgoo> the network uses 10.0.0.X ips, with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 - I have DHCP giving out from 200+ and I have some machines static to < 200
[15:38] <ampmaniac3> hi! why does when i use a php script to execute a useradd -m username -p password the password in the /etc/passwd is not encrypted?
[15:38] <craigbass1976> FastZ: http://rafb.net/p/41vIeH10.html
[15:38] <astro76> dtamas: vagalume
[15:38] <koshari> amenado i are using dhcp with 192.168.0.1 serving the ip asddys and it 192.168.0.1 is connectied to the AP via ethernet. the ubuntu machine i are trying to connect to the net is wireless via the AP @ 192.168.0.252. the same machine connects to the web fine using windows. with ubuntu i can connect to this desktop i are typing on via its apache server on 192.168.0.8. i can ping from the notebook 192.168.0.9 fine however i cannot ping 192.168.0.1 fr
[15:39] <astro76> dtamas: actually maybe that's maemo only.....
[15:39] <Coggz> i would like someone to aid me in getting hotkeys on my Acer Travelmate C111TCi (C110) working, that includes wlan, Bluetooth, volume...
[15:39] <jgoo> koshari, sounds very similar to the problem I am having
[15:39] <astro76> dtamas: nope... it's gtk/gnome too http://vagalume.igalia.com/
[15:39] <jgoo> I've ran sudo lshw -C network
[15:39] <craigbass1976> FastZ: http://rafb.net/p/x1PEnF69.html is my sources.list file
[15:40] <ampmaniac3> it is written as what it is, and when i use an encrypt function, i could not log in to the system
[15:40] <FastZ> craigbass1976: thanks gimme a sec to look at these
[15:40] <dtamas> ﻿astro76: thanks, i try it
[15:40] <amenado> koshari-> do you have a drawing perhaps? it will take me a while to understand what you just said
[15:40] <jgoo> Is there a known network issue with 8.04 ? I am confused why static ip, or DHCP would not work... especially since the connection was working perfectly during live session when I booted!!
[15:41] <astro76> jgoo: that's a question for #ubuntu+1
[15:41] <craigbass1976> FastZ: I'm actually think of installing Feisty...  This is a PITA
[15:41] <jgoo> amenado, if the problems are similar, my network setup is very simple: linksys router as DHCP, at 10.0.0.100
[15:41] <FastZ> craigbass1976:  try running sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[15:42] <Technofrood> Just upgraded my 7.10 box to the 8.04 RC, how ever the newest kernel listed in grub (2.6.24-16) comes up with a kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[15:42] <amenado> jgoo do you have similar explanations?  maybe you can assist in translating what koshari said..i have difficulty following what he said
[15:42] <jgoo> astro76, what is that channel? And what criteria has my question met to be deemed ubuntu+1able?
[15:42] <FastZ> craigbass1976: dont give up...that's the easy way out
[15:42] <ampmaniac3> can anyone tell me the default password encrytion used by ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon server edition?
[15:42] <astro76> jgoo: Ubuntu beta version channel, you are using Hardy
[15:42] <amenado> jgoo-> 8.04 is the key..thats hardy
[15:42] <hwMoD> hello - I started a do-release-upgrade through ssh via wireless on my laptop, then thougth better, stopped it half way, and now apt-get upgrade is getting hardy packages
[15:42] <Siph0n> jgoo, anything related to hardy goes to ubuntu+1 :)
[15:42] <hwMoD> how many issues am I facing?
[15:43] <compwiz18> !hardy | jgoo
[15:43] <hwMoD> i guess thats me too
[15:43] <jgoo> amenado, I have linksys, at 10.0.0.100, I have working network in live mode, however, when installed, DHCP will get DNS values, but seemingly not get an IP, and static IP doesn't work (I am confident in the ips I have given)
[15:43] <ubotu> jgoo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:43] <craigbass1976> FastZ: Ok....  the fix broken command isn't working either.  Is that the right syntax?  I'm getting told about the otions for apt-get (like when I type in a command with the wrong options/switches)
[15:43] <jgoo> ok, I will try in there, but I wanted to give amenado an explanation, cheers
[15:43] <astro76> jgoo: yeah no worries ;)
[15:43] <amenado> jgoo thanks,
[15:44] <FastZ> craigbass1976: good catch... sudo apt-get update --fix-broken
[15:44] <FastZ> sorry
[15:44] <Float> I'm trying to get Azureus to work on my computer... I already set up a static ip for my computer and forwarded the ports from my router... but Azureus still says I'm firewalled. Can anyone help me out a little?
[15:44] <craigbass1976> FastZ: Aha, jsut saw that in the man page
[15:45] <FastZ> craigbass1976: yeah, my bad man
[15:45] <amenado> koshari-> man that a tuff one to interpret...can you break it down, to what is connected to the internet? then what is acting as router/gateway? then another router/gateway behind it?
[15:45] <FastZ> craigbass1976: im only on cup #2 of coffee so i'm still a little bit asleep at the wheel here
[15:46] <craigbass1976> FastZ: I understand.
[15:46] <magic_ninja> my caps lock and number lock keys aren't working (no leds), they work outside ubuntu just not now, should i reconfigure my keyboard?
[15:46] <amenado> Float-> well are you running  a firewall? turn it off temporarily or change the rules for permanent usage?
[15:46] <craigbass1976> FastZ: That comand didn't seem to do anything.  Do I need to run that somehow (the fix-broken) when installing mysql?
[15:46] <chazco> Hi.. whats the correct way to get an address on a network device? dhclient bnep0 does the trick, but network manager doesnt show any changes
[15:47] <Oprtz> hi there
[15:47] <elliotjhug> !hi
[15:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:47] <FastZ> craigbass1976: nah, I wouldnt think so.  This is odd.  Can you install other packages besides mysql?
[15:47] <Float> amenado: Ha... that was kinda stupid of me. Yeah, I was running firestarter, but I had set it to allow connections through that port. I turned it off and now Azureus says everything's fine.
[15:47] <craigbass1976> tried xchat, xmms, gnome-xchat
[15:47] <Float> Amenado: With Ubuntu, is it really neccisary to have a firewall at all, though?
[15:47] <amenado> chazco-> i trust the command line more than the gui..
[15:47] <FastZ> craigbass1976: none of those install either?
[15:47] <craigbass1976> Setting up a develeopment LAMP box and haven't tried apache yet
[15:48] <craigbass1976> FastZ: no, none of them
[15:48] <chazco> amenado - It works and gives me internet access via the mobile phone, but i'd like to make a tutorial, so should do things "right"... otherwise, agreed totally :)
[15:48] <mechdave> TRC2908, Ok where were we
[15:48] <Sinnerman> previously, after a while, my laptop would blank the screen then poweroff the lcd monitor if i was away for a while, now it only blanks the screen. why, and how do i fix it? i've not changed anything in the power management section.
[15:48] <zvacet> Float : firewall is installed by default.Firestarter is just GUI for it
[15:48] <amenado> Float nope, not necessary, but i hate it when folks trying to knock my webserver down with DOS..so i use firewall to limit the connections
[15:48] <astro76> craigbass1976: try this: apt-get -f install
[15:48] <ampmaniac3> hi! i need help pls. why does this doesnt encrypt the password? useradd -m mailuser1 -p password
[15:48] <craigbass1976> astro76: install packagename?
[15:49] <TRC2908> mechdave, ummm maybe here = sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:49] <astro76> craigbass1976: nope that's it
[15:49] <Float> Thanks
[15:49] <Oprtz> when i play a video file in VLC player ubuntu 7.10 it crashes and disapear, why is that? and when play video file in Totem player it plays but when i move mouse the screen flickers and the quality of video is not good, as it was before.... ?
[15:49] <mechdave> TRC2908, that's right, it gave no output?
[15:49] <craigbass1976> astro76: nothing to install
[15:49] <amenado> chazco-> go ahead and create the tutorial, may I suggest, that you point out the tools to check and verify the configs you have done via gui..lots of tutorial do not do this step (verifications)
[15:49] <astro76> craigbass1976: you can try with the packagename you are trying to install to
[15:49] <TRC2908> mechdave, nuh
[15:49] <astro76> *too
[15:50] <craigbass1976> astro76: I did.  No love
[15:50] <chazco> amenado - Not much actually takes place on the PC, but will try... (one pand command line, one dhclient command or networkmanager action)
[15:50] <mechdave> TRC2908, and the drive is plugged in?
[15:50] <TRC2908> mechdave, yep
[15:50] <koshari> amenado http://www.in.com.au/~holty/temp/pic.jpg
[15:51] <amenado> chazco what i meant is if one had set the ip address, one has to verify it like via  ifconfig or "sudo ip addr"
[15:51] <SuRfDeMoN> is the a gui for setting up samba?
[15:51] <chazco> amenado - Ah, i see... I do that sort of thing on most of my tutorials anyway :)
[15:51] <Derspankster> anyone have thoughts or experience using Ubuntu as a home server? What distro, etc.
[15:51] <TRC2908> mechdave, are we sue about "sda" it was in dmesg , wasnt it?
[15:51] <mechdave> TRC2908, try dmesg | grep "sda"
[15:51] <amenado> koshari cool, thats worth a thousand words, the only isssue is the laptop can not associate with the AP ?
[15:52] <softwork> hi, it k3b or cd/dvd creator, my dvd writer dont write sony dvd-rw's, how i do'
[15:52] <FastZ> Derspankster: I use Ubuntu Server edition on a home server machine.  I like it, no problems
[15:52] <Oprtz> when i play a video file in VLC player ubuntu 7.10 it crashes and disapear, why is that? and when play video file in Totem player it plays but when i move mouse the screen flickers and the quality of video is not good, as it was before.... ?
[15:52] <softwork> in windows work
[15:52] <noxiousrao> hi
[15:52] <elliotjhug> !hi > noxiousrao
[15:52] <amenado> chazco nice of you, many do not do that extra steps of verifications or do not point out the tools to verify
[15:52] <Derspankster> FastZ: thanks for the input, i want to use it mainly as a media server
[15:53] <amenado> chazco am sure your tutorials will be of highest quality
[15:53] <koshari> amenado , no the laptop can connect with the AP and does, i can access the webserver on 192.168.0.9 , however i cannot access the web or ping 192.168.0.1
[15:53] <mechdave> TRC2908, ok try sudo fdisk -l
[15:53] <asathoor> Derspankster >> my system has MythTV and shares media files
[15:53] <mechdave> TRC2908, without any arguments
[15:53] <FastZ> Derspankster: Mine is used mainly for streaming audio which it does quite nicely.  I also stream a few movies that I have on there across my LAN which it also does quite nicely
[15:53] <mechdave> TRC2908, that should give you all partitions on your system
[15:53] <SuRfDeMoN> Does anyone know of a gui to configure samba?
[15:54] <asathoor> for sharing with windows I simply use Putty or Psftp
[15:54] <astro76> koshari: what is the AP?
[15:54] <craigbass1976> vi .  haha
[15:54] <Derspankster> FastZ: thanks again. What packages do you have installed, if you can remember offhand.
[15:54] <amenado> koshari does the router/modem have a tool within it to ping the .09 or your AP ? kind of test in reverse?
[15:54] <SuRfDeMoN> this is for moving files from one ubuntu laptop to another laptop running ubuntu
[15:54] <TRC2908> mechdave, sudo fdisk -l?
[15:54] <craigbass1976> SuRfDeMoN: what are you sharing out?  Need any security, or just wide open?
[15:54] <usser> SuRfDeMoN, swat works pretty well
[15:54] <mechdave> TRC2908, yep
[15:54] <asathoor> Derspankster >> if you install MythWeb you will have access to all wanted media files by browser e.g. firefox
[15:55] <SuRfDeMoN> craigbass1976,  just wide open
[15:55] <craigbass1976> SuRfDeMoN: I can get you a file... hang on
[15:55] <amenado> koshari also is the switch  a type of managed switch? or thats more like a hub?
[15:55] <Derspankster> asathoor: thanks
[15:55] <SuRfDeMoN> craigbass1976, I need to get all data off one of the laptops as it has a virus in windows so running ubuntu on one of its drives
[15:55] <SuRfDeMoN> craigbass1976,  cheers :)
[15:55] <koshari> amenado ap is a wifi access point minitar, and the odd thing is if i reboot the laptop  to windows i can access 192.168.0.1 and surf the web
[15:55] <pjv> what's a good application to use with an ipod?
[15:55] <koshari> pjv try amarok
[15:55] <usser> pjv, amarok
[15:56] <FastZ> Derspankster: its just a regular LAMP server install.  of course i have ssh installed for secure file transfers... um, gnump3d for a streaming audio server
[15:56] <mechdave> SuRfDeMoN, Try System -> Administration ->Shared Folders
[15:56] <asathoor> pjv >> amarok
[15:56] <TRC2908> mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63730/
[15:56] <pjv> thank you
[15:56] <astro76> koshari: have you verified the gateway is set in Linux to 192.168.0.1 ?
[15:56] <SuRfDeMoN> mechdave, I don't have Shared Folders under Administration
[15:56]  * delcoyote hi
[15:57] <amenado> koshari-> were you the one I asked to paste the ifconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/resolv.conf  ? if not yet, please the result of those  (this is from the laptop )
[15:57] <Derspankster> I am currently procuring and assembling my hardware for the home home server. Thanks to all for your replies.
[15:57] <FastZ> Derspankster: there are some other versions of Myth you can also take a look at beside MythTV... look at Mythbuntu, KnoppMyth, and there is a Linux Media Center distro too, but I cant think of the name of it
[15:57] <amenado> koshari oh yeah it was you,  you dont have ip address assigned to your eth0 or eth1 and no gateway
[15:57] <koshari> amenado i did here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7504/
[15:57] <SuRfDeMoN> mechdave, one of them has that option but it is on the wrong laptop its on the one I want to get the data off
[15:58] <naga> hi
[15:58] <vova_kubba> please advice me torrent cliaent except ktorrent , rtorrent and transmission ;)
[15:58] <mechdave> SuRfDeMoN, which Ubuntu you using?
[15:58] <amenado> koshari so get an ip address assigned to eth0 or eth1  for the laptop
[15:58] <koshari> astro76 and amendo how do i do this using roaning?
[15:58] <mechdave> TRC2908, that is odd, should show up in there
[15:58] <jgoo> ok, solved - looks physical... sometime between live session and booting, i think the network... somehow... got nudged, and there is no light on back... but weird...
[15:58] <SuRfDeMoN> mechdave, think it is hardy, how can i confirm it ?
[15:58] <anaoum> what package contains the program uniq??
[15:59] <anaoum> or how can i find this out
[15:59] <pihhan> vova_kubba: apt-cache search torrent, suid yourself
[15:59] <TRC2908> mechdave, 40 gb, is the pc hardrive, the ehd is 100 gb here is dmesg | grep "sda"       =  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63731/
[15:59] <Derspankster> I have a mixed network, 2 Ubuntu, 2 Win XP, and a MacBook Pro
[15:59] <astro76> anaoum: dpkg -S `which uniq`
[15:59] <lartza_> what would be a good online game?
[15:59] <Derspankster> actually 3 ubuntu
[15:59] <lartza_> im sick of these what i have
[15:59] <craigbass1976> SuRfDeMoN: http://rafb.net/p/VQww4X76.html
[16:00] <astro76> anaoum: note those are `backticks`.. or use dpkg -S $(which uniq)
[16:00] <craigbass1976> SuRfDeMoN: Make your /etc/samba/smb.conf file look liek that and you should be good to go
[16:00] <amenado> koshari-> are you following me?
[16:00] <zvacet> vova_kubba :Delude
[16:00] <anaoum> astro76: thanks
[16:00] <SuRfDeMoN> craigbass1976, wicked thank you very much :)
[16:00] <zvacet> vova_kubba :Sorry it is Deluge
[16:01] <koshari> amenado there is no place to enter the details when i tick the roaming option in the networking applet
[16:01] <solar7> hi
[16:01] <mechdave> TRC2908, Looks like bad news to me, might need to plug it into a windows box and run scandisk on it, any win box will do
[16:01] <solar7> http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6277/wiesocu0.jpg  <-- why is that?
[16:01] <itai-michaelson> question_ got a new laptop, want to install hardy, now its beta , will it automatically update to stable once it officially comes out? or will i be stuck with beta forever?
[16:01] <mechdave> TRC2908, it has errors that I do not know how to fix in Ubuntu
[16:02] <amenado> koshari your AP has not assigned you an ip address per your paste,  untick the roaming anyways
[16:02] <zvacet> itai-michaelson : you will get final by updates
[16:02] <astro76> solar7: you should explain it because people are wary to click your link
[16:02] <TRC2908> mechdave, ok, i'll run scandisk on the ehd sometime this week
[16:02] <solar7> okay
[16:02] <solar7> so
[16:02] <itai-michaelson> zvacet,  thanks
[16:02] <Oprtz> !pastebin
[16:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:02] <koshari> amenado why would this be the case as there is the gateway entered in the access point and windows picks it up?
[16:03] <mechdave> TRC2908, No worries, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[16:04] <amenado> koshari not per what you pasted, no ip address assigned to your eth0 nor eth1  -- these are you wifi nics on your laptop?
[16:04] <solar7> when i boot my ubuntu everything works fine but when ubuntu loads the hardwaree drivers.. 2 errnos appear... you can see them on this screenshot --> http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6277/wiesocu0.jpg
[16:04] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[16:04] <astro76> koshari: the laptop should be getting no information from the access point, and it's IP is transparent to the situation
[16:04] <TRC2908> mechdave, by the way, i need to download software from seagate to get the maxtor ehd running on windows - is this of any relevance?
[16:04] <astro76> koshari: only DHCP server should be on the router
[16:05] <mechdave> SuRfDeMoN, try sudo apt-get install samba
[16:05] <mechdave> TRC2908, Uhoh!!
[16:05] <koshari> astro76 this is correct
[16:05] <FastZ> craigbass1976: you figure anything out about your install problem?  I'm still trying to look for some information about a fix for that
[16:05] <mechdave> TRC2908, does seagate have linux drivers?
[16:06] <astro76> koshari: windows is getting it's IP and gateway info from the dhcp on the router, for some reason linux is not
[16:06] <solar7> damn
[16:06] <mechdave> TRC2908, what is the model?
[16:06] <TRC2908> mechdave, maxtor mini iii
[16:06] <solar7> log
[16:07] <astro76> koshari: sorry if I'm stating the obvious here ;)
[16:08] <koshari> astro i put a static ip addy in the laptop and its connecting to 192.168.0.1, i cant see why it cant get a dhcp served local ip addy?
[16:08] <zionpsyfer> solar7: Try disabling the boot from cd option in your bios.  from what I gather it can cause what you are experiencing.
[16:08] <solar7> aha
[16:09] <solar7> thats a good idea
[16:09] <solar7> thx
[16:09] <astro76> koshari: I honestly haven't used static in a long while... I set my router to give the same IP to paritcular MACs via DHCP
[16:09] <TRC2908> mechdave, when i got it, it worked out of the box on windows a couple of years ago, but with a later reboot/replacement pc i had to download this software = http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=ot3-mini-vista&vgnextoid=bb9cb7ecb30d3110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD
[16:09] <mona3> hello
[16:09] <mona3> how can i change my screen depth to 16 bit?
[16:09] <amenado> koshari use a cable to plug your laptop to same AP and see if you get an ip addy to your laptop
[16:09] <mona3> i'm trying to run a game in wine and the appdb says to change X to 16 bit
[16:09] <mona3> otherwise there are performance problems
[16:10] <zionpsyfer> solar7: no problem, hopefully that solves it.
[16:10] <astro76> koshari: the AP has one port though doesn't it?
[16:10] <TRC2908> mechdave, the site refers to windows vista but i was running xp
[16:11] <koshari> astro76 yes
[16:11] <noob13> mona3: you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the Section "Screen" change defaultdepth to 16 and restart X. I'm not sure it will work, but..
[16:11] <SeaPhor> mona3: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:12] <mona3> SeaPhor: i will now
[16:12] <astro76> koshari: did it work in linux via wireless when using dhcp, if you tried that first?
[16:13] <ivo> hello everybody
[16:13] <ivo> what happend when i put usb device into usb port in my computer
[16:14] <koshari> astro76 i did try that first but didnt work, using static now i can access goole by directly putting in the 72.104.***.***
[16:14] <astro76> koshari: because you'll have to set dns manually too
[16:14] <ivo> i can see informatrion when i use "dmesg"
[16:14] <koshari> astro76 ot would appear i will have to manually put the dns server detasils in
[16:14] <noob13> ivo: what is the device?
[16:14] <astro76> koshari: though depending on router you can just point dns at 192.168.0.1
[16:14] <ivo> for exemple mice
[16:15] <magic_ninja> LOL guys check this out
[16:15] <magic_ninja> i installed winxp so i can bot for d2, but windows xp wont automatically configure my dhcp isp
[16:15] <magic_ninja> LOL
[16:15] <ivo> is there any other "place" that i can see new device into usb-port
[16:15] <magic_ninja> ivo what are u trying to connect
[16:15] <erUSUL> ivo: lsusb
[16:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ivo, dmesg | tail
[16:15] <koshari> astro76 so its working using static with the dns manually put in but i cant see why it wont work using dhcp????
[16:15] <_urlwolf__> my ubuntu install doesn't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf (?). I'm reading instructions that mention that...
[16:15] <magic_ninja> or lspci | grep usb
[16:15] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to see what you just plugged or unplugged
[16:16] <astro76> koshari: good question
[16:16] <ivo> ok lsusb is something that i'm looking for, thx
[16:16] <magic_ninja> _urlwolf__: are u running an x server
[16:16] <_urlwolf__> yes
[16:16] <_urlwolf__> well
[16:16] <zvacet> _urlwolf__ : did you ever econfigure xservedr?
[16:16] <_urlwolf__> no
[16:17] <_urlwolf__> hmm
[16:17] <_urlwolf__> I see
[16:17] <magic_ninja> dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg i believe, that will generate one
[16:17] <erUSUL> !enter | _urlwolf__
[16:17] <ubotu> _urlwolf__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:17] <_urlwolf__> I'm connected to this box using X-win 32 on a win machine
[16:17] <erUSUL> !xconfig
[16:17] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[16:17] <_urlwolf__> so, then, maybe the Xserver is running on win instead
[16:17] <astro76> koshari: plugging laptop ethernet into router works with dhcp?
[16:18] <astro76> koshari: router or switch
[16:18] <zvacet> _urlwolf__ : Do you have GUI in Ubuntu?
[16:18] <_urlwolf__> zvacet: yes
[16:18] <SuRfDeMoN> humm i have setup a share on a ubuntu machine how do I connect to it from another ubuntu machine
[16:18] <koshari> astro76 i suspect ir should but i dont have a patch cable handy at the moment,
[16:19] <SeaPhor> mona3: in gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can specify in "Section 'Screen'" to "Depth 16" instead of 24 (or whatever yours is) then save the file
[16:20] <cjae> k whats going on with nautilus when I try to open a mp3 and or any file really it turns the file icon into a plain text looking file and then will not open it at all
[16:20] <scout_> i have 2 ISP's, each with a gateway/firewall. i need to place a router infront of them to route traffic the the proper gateway. vpn traffic on one ISP, all other traffic on the other. if my network is 192.168.1.0/24 can i keep the gateways on the same network or will they need to each be their own networks? meaning traffic first hits router with ip 192.168.1.1, and then it needs to hop to ISP1, can that ISP1 firewall/gateway be a 192.168.1.x ip?
[16:20] <zvacet> _urlwolf__ : so,xserver i running and you must have xserver.conf
[16:20] <zionpsyfer> SuRfDeMoN: in the file manager, type this into the address bar:  SMB://machinename
[16:20] <root____2> How do I change my name?
[16:20] <SeaPhor> mona3: you may have to restart xserver
[16:20] <GrueTamer> root____2: /nick <name>
[16:20] <root____2> !regist
[16:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regist - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:20] <noob13> SuRfDeMoN: u mean connect to it over ssh?
[16:20] <_urlwolf__> zvacet: locate xserver.conf returns nothing
[16:20] <labroid> Hello:  I was just watching a video using Movie Player and it froze *everything*.  Had to <cntl><alt><BS> to get out of the desktop. Upon getting back in, no apps will show video (VLC, movieplayer).  Can't find anything in FAQs or web.  Any hints?
[16:21] <labroid> Running Gutsy when video failed.
[16:21] <zionpsyfer> SuRfDeMoN: You might need to use the IP instead of the machine name.
[16:21] <zvacet> cd /etc/X11 and after that ls
[16:21] <mechdave> TRC2908, they say that the maxtor mini III works fine with Ubuntu (Linux)
[16:21] <Stev1> Can anyone help me fixing my user account..
[16:21] <noob13> Stev1: whats wrong with it?
[16:21] <mechdave> Stev1, what have you done to it?
[16:22] <Stev1> I broke my user account..
[16:22] <Stev1> Sudo no longer works
[16:22] <googlah> I'm running a production server with over 15.000 visits a day, will Ubuntu 8.04 be suitable for installation?
[16:22] <TRC2908> mechdave, do they -  i guess i'll have to go the scandisk
[16:22] <Stev1> let me grab the error it says..
[16:22] <_urlwolf__> zvacet: I have  Xsession.options
[16:22] <koshari> astro76 i are beginning to suspect its the ethernet poer attempting to resolve the dns/ip address instead of the wifi
[16:22] <SuRfDeMoN> zionpsyfer, wicked cheers
[16:22] <_urlwolf__> and Xwrapper.config
[16:22] <noob13> Stev1: maybe u've been removed from the sudoers list. or is this not the case?
[16:22] <zionpsyfer> SuRfDeMoN: cheers =)
[16:22] <SeaPhor> can anyone tell me if CTRL+ALT+Backspace restarts xserver, or is there a better way?
[16:22] <nickrud> Stev1 type groups in a terminal, do you see admin as one of the groups you belong to?
[16:22] <mechdave> TRC2908, sorry mate but that is all I can think of right now
[16:22] <Stev1> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '52428803' '--update-at-startup' as user root.
[16:22] <googlah> SeaPhor: Yes, it does
[16:22] <cosminb82> is there a channel where I can discuss programming in ubuntu?
[16:22] <nickrud> SeaPhor it does, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm is a cleaner way
[16:23] <astro76> koshari: perhaps... it's definitely something with the laptop's configuration
[16:23] <Stev1> let me try that
[16:23] <nickrud> SeaPhor it does, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is a cleaner way
[16:23] <SeaPhor> googlah, Thank you
[16:23] <TRC2908> mechdave, i appreciate your time and effort - cheers
[16:23] <GrueTamer> ctrl alt backspace is more universal though
[16:23] <noob13> Stev1: the error suggests u ARE root. just something else is failing. or is the problem that you really can't sudo anything?
[16:23] <zionpsyfer> googlah: Depends on a lot of factors. Hardware, configuration, design of the site and the extensions you're planning on using to apache.  The db stuff if any.
[16:23] <SeaPhor> nickrud, Thank you
[16:23] <Stev1> I believe I removed myself from ADMINS
[16:23] <mechdave> TRC2908, no worries mate, that is what I am here for :)
[16:24] <Stev1> when i last was able to check there.. it showed Root and santhony
[16:24] <Stev1> I deselected santhony
[16:24] <Stev1> since reboot, I can no longer run sudo
[16:24] <nickrud> Stev1 did you do the groups command?
[16:24] <Stev1> but now I cannot get back into there to fix
[16:24] <Stev1> how do i do that nick?
[16:24] <zvacet> _urlwolf__ : I don´t understand that.It is very strange
[16:24] <SeaPhor> nickrud, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart work as well?
[16:25] <noob13> ah lol.
[16:25] <nickrud> Stev1 apps-accessories->terminal, type it there
[16:25] <_urlwolf__> I know
[16:25] <nickrud> SeaPhor yes
[16:25] <googlah> zionpsyfer: cool. Well, I just hope it will be stable and the hard lockups are fixed. (?) I'm using like, apache2 with php5, mysql, postgresql, proftpd, irssi, postfix, dovecot for mail etc.
[16:25] <zvacet> _urlwolf__ : I don´t understand it.It is very strange.
[16:25] <Stev1> type this [16:26] <nickrud> Stev1 no,  groups  , it will give you a list. Paste that one line here
[16:26] <googlah> I am going to upgrade the hardware in a few days as well.. so 8.04 might be good.
[16:26] <_urlwolf__> Stev1: was that directed to me?
[16:26] <scout_> is there a good channel to ask routing/networking questions?
[16:26] <labroid> Hello.  I've lost the ability to play video with any application in Gutsy.  Any good place to discuss that?
[16:26] <zippytech> any idea's on why a sblive card is not working snd: Unknown symbol unregister_sound_special
[16:26] <zionpsyfer> googlah: I run 6.10 server at work.  It's been rock solid for me, with apache2, php5, mysql5, proftpd.  Nowhere near the load you are looking at, but it's been stable since install.
[16:26] <zippytech> i have also tried the onboars and won't work either
[16:26] <zippytech> this is 8.04
[16:27] <nickrud> #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1 zippytech
[16:27] <Stev1> for some reason I cannot run the "manage groups" button
[16:27] <_urlwolf__> ok, nm, I'm not risking screwing up my confing; Thanks zvacet and Stev1
[16:27] <Stev1> it does nothing after clicking that
[16:27] <GrueTamer> _urlwolf__: no.  i wish i could scroll up to familiarize myself with your problem :P
[16:27] <nickrud> Stev1 that requires sudo also. That's why we're doing it in the terminal
[16:27] <mechdave> Stev1, at boot hit esc and edit the grub boot line adding single to the end, that will boot into single mode so you can fix what you have done
[16:27] <SeaPhor> is there a gui ftp Server, not just a client, in the repos? i can't seem to find a gui server app and I cant seem to correctly config the cli ones i have tried
[16:27] <Stev1> ah.. OK.. let me get back into terminal..
[16:27] <Stev1> what do i run in terminal?
[16:27] <nickrud> groups
[16:28] <kriel> any way to resize my / partition without a livecd / bootcd / etc ?
[16:28] <zvacet> Stev1 : In terminal type sudo adduser username admin
[16:28] <nickrud> kriel no
[16:28] <googlah> zionpsyfer: I see. Might should look at a older version.. or stick to 7.10. But newest seem best to me. :)
[16:29] <nickrud> kriel you can't resize a partition that's in use, so you need some other root to be running.
[16:29] <Stev1> i just typed this
[16:29] <Stev1> ﻿sudo adduser username admin
[16:29] <kriel> nickrud: no way to throw the kernel, etc into mem/swap ?
[16:29] <shadowhell> hi all
[16:29] <nickrud> kriel non that I know of, and besides, you'd need a lot more than just the kernel to run even parted
[16:29] <zvacet> zvacet : put your username in place of username
[16:30] <zionpsyfer> googlah: yeah, 6.10 is going to be dropped from support on the 25th of this month, 7.10 should be nice and stable.  I don't know that I'd trust 8.04 right after it's been released on a production machine.
[16:30] <jasperhax0r> ok i need some help, i want to install ubuntu but the graphical installer doesnt work well when i cant get a screen res beyound 640x480 what can i do?
[16:30] <itai-michaelson> kriel  the only way i can see you doing that without a boot Cd is in a dual boot situaion
[16:30] <Stev1> that didn't fix anything
[16:30] <Stev1> sudo not working still
[16:30] <kriel> woo. Kay.
[16:30] <kriel> Thank you nickrud, itai-michaelson
[16:30] <zvacet> Stev1 : boot in recovery mode and type adduser username admin
[16:30] <Stev1> can i log in using root?
[16:31] <labroid> Where do I go for help with failed video playback?
[16:31] <nickrud> Stev1 before you do that, lets be sure that's the problem.  type    groups    in that terminal, see if admin is listed
[16:31] <Stev1> so i believe the problem is my user account has no admin priveliges
[16:31] <jasperhax0r> is there a command line install for ubuntu?
[16:31] <Stev1> just don't know how to reverse that
[16:31] <GrueTamer> jasperhax0r: yes
[16:31] <zvacet> Stev1 : you will see that option (recovery mode) when grub load
[16:31] <jasperhax0r> what is the command for it?
[16:31] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, yes, just select it from the boot cd
[16:32] <Stev1> ok, that lists the following
[16:32] <nickrud> jasperhax0r you'd need the alternate install cd for a command line install
[16:32] <jasperhax0r> i didnt see that in the boot cd menu
[16:32] <Stev1> santhony adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin
[16:32] <googlah> zionpsyfer: Nah, I think the same.
[16:32] <Stev1> my account is the santhony
[16:32] <jasperhax0r> i dont have that
[16:32] <Stev1> I'm great at Windows.. New to this Linux stuff
[16:32] <Stev1> so pls bear with me
[16:32] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, or download the dvd for ubuntu
[16:32] <zvacet> Stev1 : adduser santhony admin
[16:33] <jasperhax0r> dont have any cd-r/dvd-rs
[16:33] <nickrud> Stev1 yup, no admin group.  reboot, when you see loading grub 1.5 , hit escape. Look for the recovery option, and choose that. When it loads, type    adduser santhony admin .  Then type exit
[16:33] <Stev1> it says only root can do that
[16:33] <SeaPhor> sudo
[16:33] <Stev1>  Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[16:33] <jasperhax0r> using the 6.06 lts for 64bit cd i had sent to me
[16:33] <Stev1> which is my problem.. cannot run sudo
[16:33] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, you can download it from http://www.distrowatch.com
[16:33] <ivze> Good time of the day! 7.10 - installed virtualbox -> lost ALSA audio. Any ideas where to dig?=)
[16:34] <nickrud> Stev1 you need to reboot into the special mode I just explained. Write down the steps, and do them exactly and you will be fine
[16:34] <Stev1> ok..
[16:34] <zvacet> Stev1 :As I said boot in recovery mode and there you are superuser.Just type command I write
[16:34] <Stev1> ah.. ok.. so once in recovery, type this
[16:34] <jasperhax0r> sure i can download it but it doesnt do me any good if it just sits there on my hard drive not being written to disk
[16:34] <Stev1> ﻿adduser santhony admin
[16:34] <Stev1> you agree nick?
[16:35] <mechdave> Stev1, you will need to boot into rescue mode and then in a terminal type adduser <username> <group>
[16:35] <nickrud> jasperhax0r any particular reason you want to use the command line installer?
[16:35] <jasperhax0r> i just wish X would stop being an idiot and do more than 640x480
[16:35] <Stev1> ok.. I saw your info too Nick..
[16:35] <jasperhax0r> so i can use the gui installer
[16:35] <pjv> hey guys how do i make amarok be the default player when i plug in my ipod. I'm using KDE
[16:35] <Stev1> thanks guys.. be back in 10 mins.. gonna try that...
[16:36] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, you cannot burn it to dvd?
[16:36] <jasperhax0r> dont have disks or a good burner
[16:36] <nickrud> pjv the guys in #kubuntu know more about kde than we do
[16:36] <jasperhax0r> but i finally got the installer to move so i could click next lol
[16:36] <pjv> ahhh
[16:36] <jasperhax0r> nvm
[16:36] <pjv> thank you
[16:37] <Omarmatuer> hi all
[16:37] <mona3> is it possible to mount an .iso file from the gui?
[16:37] <nickrud> mona3 install gmountiso
[16:38] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, try Ctrl+Alt+plus_sign and see if it will change resolution for you
[16:38] <Ximal> I need help adjusting my screen resolution... I connected the Insignia 32 inch lcd HD TV I have using the svga cable to my desktop and now all I can do is 1024x768 ... I wanted to know how to probe for the new monitor or adjust the screen res ... Anyone have a solution ?
[16:38] <jasperhax0r> nope
[16:38] <mechdave> mona3, not that I know of, I do it by sudo mount -t loop /path/to/iso /mnt
[16:39] <zvacet> Ximal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:39] <mechdave> mona3, make that sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt
[16:39] <mona3> ok
[16:39] <Ximal> zvacet ... 1 moment pls
[16:40]  * nickrud wonders what we're gonna do without dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix res issues
[16:40] <mechdave> jasperhax0r, what video card you using?
[16:40] <zvacet> mona3 : install gmountiso as nickrud told you
[16:41] <ib> Hey, what is the apt command to list all installed applications?
[16:41] <SeaPhor> mona3: also see here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Mount.2FUnmount_.iso_Images_in_oneclick
[16:41] <whombat> hi @ all
[16:41] <sirjulio> how do i check if a wireless adaptor has been detected and configured correctly after an installation?
[16:41] <nickrud> ib dpkg -l | grep ^ii   , or aptitude search ~i
[16:41] <zvacet> ib : dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[16:41] <whombat> i have a problem with my acer notebook setting the cpu freq
[16:41] <whombat> cpu is centrino
[16:42] <ib> Thanks
[16:42] <whombat> it is running @ full power
[16:42] <zvacet> ib : you wil find text file in your home directory
[16:43] <whombat> and i cannot load the modules for freq. changing
[16:43] <mona3> gmountiso worked nicely
[16:43] <zvacet> mona3 : of course it is
[16:44] <amenado> sirjulio-> can you use your wireless?
[16:44] <tijayz> hi. my ubuntu doesn't boot
[16:44] <tijayz> it drops to busybox
[16:45] <amenado> tijayz-> is it installed?
[16:45] <ib> zvacet: It sais openoffice thesauraus is installed but in openoffice it won't open up
[16:45] <tijayz> after not finding /dev/disk/{uid} of drive
[16:45] <ethand> i have fried 2 brand new monitors with gutsy
[16:45] <sirjulio> amendo, no the wireless option is greyed out
[16:45] <Omarmatuer> do you have several hard drives ?
[16:45] <Omarmatuer> i had this too
[16:45] <nickrud> sirjulio not gonna claim I can talk you all the way through wireless, but   lspci | grep -i wlan will tell you if the pci card has been recognized by the kernel. The info from that command is useful in setting up wireless, anyway
[16:45] <SeaPhor> nickrud, is dpkg~xorg going away?
[16:45] <zvacet> ib : sorry,I can not help you with that one
[16:45] <tijayz> no/ what happened, is I reinstalled ubuntu, and then copied all files (rsync'd) from old HD to a new one
[16:45] <mkultras> holy is there really 1200 people in here
[16:46] <amenado> tijayz-> new install?
[16:46] <nickrud> SeaPhor the driver/resolution config stuff is
[16:46] <Omarmatuer> ALL files ?
[16:46] <sirjulio> yeah, lspci tells me that its an atheros ar5006eg
[16:46] <mkultras> this is the most popular channel on freenode isnt it
[16:46] <Ximal> zvacet : how do I get the command you had me que to take effect please ?
[16:46] <tijayz> yea... including /dev/ and /etc/
[16:46] <dtolj> does anybody remember the program dally clock? I think thats the name and where I can find it, a simple clock app with morphing numbers, I used it back in SuSE 8 days.
[16:46] <sirjulio> however apparently it's meant to be a 5007
[16:46] <Ximal> do i need to restart ?
[16:46] <rao> ok
[16:46] <alcoheca> gb repos down right now?
[16:46] <Omarmatuer> that's the point
[16:46] <sirjulio> amanado yeah new install
[16:47] <nickrud> sirjulio you need to read up on mad-wifi , I have never set up atheros. And I've heard about some error about recognizing the card. See the next factoid
[16:47] <nickrud> !wireless | sirjulio
[16:47] <ubotu> sirjulio: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:47] <sirjulio> kk, ty
[16:47] <sirjulio> ty 2 ubotu
[16:47] <zvacet> Ximal : after you finish with erconfiguring xserver ,yes restart
[16:47] <Ximal> ok
[16:47] <Ximal> thank you
[16:47] <Ximal> be back momentarily
[16:47] <nickrud> sirjulio sadly, that my not be the best info anymore, not sure if its been updated. Also try searching on ubuntuforums.org and comparing info
[16:49] <sirjulio> ok, nickrud, it seems consensus is keep reading, i'll return when i have more specific hurdles :)
[16:49] <tijayz> can I edit fstab from busybox?
[16:49] <tijayz> or do I have to use livecd?
[16:50]  * nickrud has never been able to do _anything_ useful from busybox
[16:51] <WebMajstr> hi folks. I have a Q. when I dubble click *.pas file, nothing happens, and I have to do right click, open with other applcation and select gedit to open it. How to make it default, to open with dubble click
[16:51] <erUSUL> WebMajstr: right click properties open with
[16:51] <Berto> Is there an AMD64 repository for Firefox 3 Beta?
[16:51] <nickrud> WebMajstr right click the file, select properties. On the dialog that opens, select open with
[16:53] <underscore> I have a keyboard in which the F* buttons don't work (crazy, I know) but I would like to use the F* button functionality. Because few shortcuts use the 'super' button, I would like to somehow remap 'super+1' to 'F1' and 'super+2' to 'F2' and so on and so forth. Is this at all possible?
[16:53] <brfitzp> what is the closest ubuntu program to winamp?
[16:53] <WebMajstr> I have set gedit to open by default, but when I dubble click, nothing happens :S
[16:53] <linxeh> underscore: get a new keyboard ? :)
[16:54] <linxeh> underscore: and yes - look at xmodmap etc
[16:54] <zvacet> brfitzp : I think itis xmms
[16:54] <brfitzp> how would i install that @ zvacet
[16:54] <erUSUL> Berto: backports has it afaics
[16:54] <ethand> definately xmms
[16:54] <underscore> linxeh: I like my keyboard for all of its quirks, and I have looked at xmodmap, but I couldn't find any way to specifically map a modified press (i.e. super+something) to a specific key. How is this done?
[16:54] <ethand> is closest to winamp
[16:54] <Berto> erUSUL, thanks, let me checket!
[16:55] <linxeh> underscore: http://blog.dotkam.com/2007/06/25/custom-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu-or-just-linux/ etc
[16:55] <zvacet> brfitzp : It is in synaptic	
[16:55] <zvacet> 	
[16:55] <linxeh> underscore: hmm good point :o
[16:55] <herbaliser> Amarok rules
[16:55] <herbaliser> the nm-applet is no longer starting when i boot my ubuntu how can i fix this?
[16:55] <brfitzp> zvacet, i'm really new to linux and ubuntu, i dont even know what that is
[16:55] <cesco> ciao a tutti
[16:55] <ethand> Exaile is my fav
[16:55] <linxeh> underscore: that is going to be quite difficult from what I remember, I'll have a quick hunt
[16:55] <nickrud> herbaliser alt-f2  nm-applet , try that
[16:56] <ethand> tabbed-playlist!
[16:56] <tijayz> so anyone has idea as far as the /dev/disk/{uuid} failed to mount question?
[16:56] <zvacet> brfitzp : system>admin> synaptic package manager
[16:56] <underscore> linxeh: thanks, much appreciated.
[16:56] <nickrud> tijayz you don't use /dev/disk/UUID as the syntax, it's   UUID="uuid"
[16:56] <tijayz> well, i never did
[16:57] <nickrud> tijayz a reasonable assumption, from your question ;)
[16:57] <tijayz> it just said "/dev/disk/UUID' failed to mount and dropped to console
[16:57] <tijayz> while I didn't modify fstab at all
[16:57] <brfitzp> there's like 100 xmms things
[16:57] <nickrud> tijayz in the live cd, type    blkid   and compare the uuid's given with the ones in /etc/fstab
[16:57] <ethand> tijayz:  i dont know the exacts, but the problem is with the uuid in /dev/disk/ and /media/sda fstab conflict...i believe the fix is to get the uuid from /media/sda and paste it into /dev/disk/uuid
[16:58] <toglu> anyone in iceland ?
[16:58] <tijayz> nickrud, will tr
[16:58] <tijayz> y
[16:59] <toglu> tijay you are in iceland eh?
[16:59] <crazytalk> is python a good starter programming language to learn?
[16:59] <tijayz> no eh!
[16:59] <jrib> crazytalk: definitely
[16:59] <flick> ru by
[16:59] <J-Unit> y are ubuntuforums down?
[17:00] <crazytalk> jrib: ty
[17:00] <zvacet> brfitzp : pick xmms package and others are plugins
[17:00] <brfitzp> k
[17:00] <jrib> J-Unit: they're not here, but ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:00] <abramson> is anyone here rlly good with wi-fi?
[17:00] <brfitzp> zvacet, i just installed it but where can i run it?
[17:00] <toglu> tijay where are you then?
[17:00] <jrib> !anyone | abramson
[17:00] <ubotu> abramson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:00] <J-Unit> jrib, whos not here?
[17:00] <mkultras> hey im running kde4 and i clicked the red x on one of my desktop icons does that mean i deleted the file? i looked in ~/.Trash and theres nothing there
[17:01] <jrib> J-Unit: ubuntuforums are not down for me
[17:01] <nickrud> toglu this isn't the chat channel, #ubuntu-offtopic has lots of chatters
[17:01] <zvacet> brfitzp : apps>soud & video
[17:01] <abramson> my wi-fi wont work; i have a macbook white first generation bottom model extra RAM internal wi-fi card
[17:01] <flick> mkultras i think you just turned some option off for showing the file
[17:01] <abramson> when i ran tiger and lepoard i never had this problem
[17:02] <Stev1> I'm back
[17:02] <linxeh> underscore: http://www.linux.com/articles/113715 this explains what you can do when pressing shift, altgr, shift-altgr - does that help at all ?
[17:02] <nickrud> abramson lspci | grep -i wlan should show you your wireless chip, then look at the following factoid/link for instructions
[17:02] <Stev1> That worked Great!
[17:02] <nickrud> !wireless | abramson
[17:02] <ubotu> abramson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:03] <zvacet> Stev1 : O.K.
[17:03] <nickrud> Stev1 glad to hear :)
[17:03] <Stev1> great help
[17:03] <abramson> nickrud: how do i do that, i'm a noobie to linux....
[17:03] <Stev1> that recovery mode works pretty good...
[17:03] <Stev1> so that starts up always as Root?
[17:03] <linxeh> underscore: perhaps there is an easier way, but thats similar to what I've used in the past
[17:03] <nickrud> abramson apps->accessories->terminal , type the lspci | grep -i wlan there
[17:03] <underscore> linxeh: yeah, thanks a bunch
[17:03] <brfitzp> zvacet,  thanks dude got it working :)
[17:03] <zvacet> Stev1 :yes but don´t tell anyone
[17:03] <Stev1> hah
[17:04] <Stev1> haha
[17:04] <abramson> kk thx
[17:04] <Stev1> does anyone have any recomendations for a network monitor?  that will reside in the sys tray?
[17:04] <zvacet> brfitzp : did you installed plugins so you can listen your music?
[17:04] <Stev1> like windows has.. to see that your connected and transmitting
[17:04] <brfitzp> yes
[17:05] <brfitzp> zvacet, they were picked automatically when i picked xmms
[17:05] <zvacet> brfitzp :enjoy then!
[17:05] <brfitzp> it's now playing my flac files fine :)
[17:05] <ValveSoft> we're recruiting programmers at valve software to port the orange box to linux, if anybody is interested please let me know
[17:05] <ValveSoft> http://www.valvesoftware.com/job-SenSoftEngineer.html
[17:06] <nickrud> ValveSoft you should check in #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-motu for more people
[17:06] <zeus> hello, how to enable dual screen nvidia 8800 ?
[17:06] <will> I got it working in WINE :)
[17:06] <peenut> yea we need good games
[17:07]  * nickrud almost kicked for advertising, but this was a special case
[17:07] <will> need punkbuster solution, i wish evenbalance would develop for wine
[17:07] <_Lucretia_> i'm on a wireless network here and am thinking about upgrading to hardy via the devel-release, will there be any network problems or will it download all packages first?
[17:08] <nickrud> _Lucretia_ #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[17:08]  * _Lucretia_ is sick of firefox hanging all the time and it seems to be making eclipse hang *all the time*
[17:08] <Randocal> Has anyone in here configured fuppes to stream to an xbox360 or a PS3?
[17:09] <mphill_> how can you determine the current driver xorg is using from the command line?
[17:09] <WildChil17> hello there. How can I made a user with limited accesss. So it can only modify ONE directory and in it subdirectorys ?
[17:09] <magic_ninja> how do i get all of my isp's dhcp info
[17:09] <magic_ninja> default gateway/wins server /etc for some reason windows won't use dhcp to configure
[17:10] <caveymason> when i enter the command to rotate my screen it doesnt do anything it just says a list of commands?
[17:10] <WildChil17> anyone ?
[17:11] <linxeh> WildChil17: thats the definition of all users - they can only modify the directories / files they own or are in the group for
[17:11] <linxeh> WildChil17: unless there are "world writable" users
[17:11] <brfitzp> something with the volume on ubuntu is weird for me, it's lower on max volume than it was on windows like significantly. I've put the main system volume and the music player volume all the way up.
[17:12] <jawee> will most hluetooth dongles work on linux?
[17:12] <linxeh> WildChil17: what exactly do you want to do?
[17:12] <jawee> or are there some I need to avoid?
[17:12] <zorro> /#linuxac
[17:12] <SeaPhor> I am trying to go through a wireless setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 but i cant find any "contro. " files in the extracted directory, any help?
[17:12] <donq_> ok
[17:12] <donq_> ok
[17:12] <donq_> je peux
[17:13] <linxeh> jawee: http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/
[17:13] <WildChil17> linxeh: I want to make a user that can remotely access to ubuntu machine and can upload via winscp some files in this directory...
[17:13] <c-ruz> hi, where are the header of kde in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy?
[17:13] <no7up4u2> im geting an error while installing Lorcon (missing working liux kernel extention) , any idea how to fix that,
[17:13] <donq_> oo
[17:13] <WildChil17> linxeh: I don't wannt this user to install or uninstall anything just to copy files on my ubuntu machine or delete BUT ONLY FOR one directory..
[17:13] <abramson_> hi i still hav the same problem
[17:13] <sutabi> Anyone here with a mac? The only way I can install ubuntu is with bootcamp which is only in leapord?
[17:13] <jawee> linxeh; thanks!
[17:13] <zorro> #liruxac
[17:14] <linxeh> WildChil17: just create a new normal user - they wont be able to do anything dangerous to the system, except in their home directory
[17:14] <Lifeisfunny> Is there a how to url available to install flash in Hardy-amd64?
[17:14] <zorro> / #liruxac
[17:14] <WildChil17> linxeh: sudo user ?
[17:14] <caveymason> rotation of monitor not working i enter the right command cummonn wheres the support dudessss
[17:14] <linxeh> WildChil17: add a user with the utilities on the menus
[17:14] <WildChil17> linxeh: and how big would be theri home directory '
[17:15] <WildChil17> linxeh: he doesn't need anything GUI..
[17:15] <linxeh> WildChil17: as big as the free space on the device you choose for their home directory location (it doesnt have to be in /home). unless you install quota tools
[17:15] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[17:15] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[17:15] <tijayz> how can I disable resume?
[17:15] <linxeh> WildChil17: but your system has a gui on it ?
[17:15] <WildChil17> linxeh: yep
[17:15] <WildChil17> linxeh: sometimes I also do some GUI things via VNC..
[17:15] <linxeh> WildChil17: yeah, so create the user in the gui tools - or you can use the useradd / adduser commands
[17:16] <tijayz> it's waiting for resume device every time i boot it and the easiest way is to probably disable it
[17:16] <WildChil17> linxeh: oh ok..
[17:16] <caveymason> is there a program i can install so i can rotate my screen on the click of a button?
[17:16] <abramson_> has anyone here had any experience with wi-fi on a macbook running gutsy gibbon
[17:16] <abramson_> my wifi just dusnt work
[17:16] <tijayz> cuz i can't find whhere to specify UUID for resumeswap
[17:16] <gustavozb> FIVE DAYS!!! anyone knows what time that new version will be available?
[17:17] <abramson_> u can get it now gustav
[17:17] <linxeh> caveymason: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360596 ?
[17:17] <amenado> caveymason-> maybe you can create a lil icon with command behind it such as  xrandr -left
[17:17] <abramson_> i have a macbook first generation white bottom model extra RAM
[17:17] <abramson_> internal wi-fi
[17:17] <abramson_> never had a problem with it in osx
[17:17] <it_rains> hello! is anybody knows why my HP B1906tu can't get sound? my soundcard is alc260 I think! help me pleaze!!
[17:17] <linxeh> abramson_: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/02/how-to-setup-wireless-on-a-macbook-using-madwifi-710-gutsy/ ?
[17:17] <gustavozb> abramson: i mean the non beta version
[17:18] <underscore> Hey everybody, I have a keyboard without working F* keys and I am trying to get them to work instead as <super>+* to F* instead. I have gconf-editor that allows me to map <super>+* to a command. What command should I run to make an F* button press?
[17:18] <abramson_> k ill check it out
[17:18] <linxeh> abramson_: Im just guessing - there is lots of stuff about macbooks and wireless with gutsy when googling
[17:18] <SeaPhor> I am trying to go through a wireless setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 but there is no "debian" directory and i cant find any "contro. " files in the extracted directory, any help?
[17:18] <linxeh> abramson_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[17:19] <Yazan`> Is there an arabic ubuntu channel?
[17:19] <Yazan`> like #ubuntu-ar?
[17:19] <caveymason> amenado: i enter the command and it doesnt do anything?
[17:19] <Yazan`> or something
[17:19] <Yazan`> ?
[17:19] <caveymason> so even if it was attactched to a button it wouldnt work?
[17:20] <linxeh> Yazan`: possibly, but I doubt it on a primarily US network...
[17:20] <escupoenhardy> the desktop dont charge in rc after install propietary driver of ati in sinaptyc,help please
[17:20] <underscore> in other words, is there any way to run a terminal command that makes the system think that an F* button was pressed?
[17:20] <underscore> If so, what is the command?
[17:20] <unop_> !sa | Yazan`
[17:20] <ubotu> Yazan`: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[17:20] <SeaPhor> can i install ndiswrapper and configure it for amd64 in cli?
[17:20] <Skiessi> how do I get pid from a program in console?
[17:20] <Skiessi> or terminal
[17:20] <amenado> caveymason-> the exact command would be like  xrandr -o 1
[17:20] <no7up4u2> im getting an error missing working linux wireless kernel extension, any idea how to fix that?
[17:20] <gustavozb> amenado: hey
[17:20] <amenado> caveymason-> man xrandr
[17:20] <Yazan`> unop_: 1 user lol
[17:20] <unop_> Skiessi, pidof programname
[17:20] <linxeh> underscore: can you not bind another key with that mapping thing ?
[17:20] <amenado> gustavozb-> hey are for horses
[17:20] <linxeh> Yazan`: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[17:21] <unop_> Skiessi, or  pgrep programname
[17:21] <someothernick> Yazan`: #ubuntu-lb
[17:21] <Skiessi> ok thanks
[17:21] <sachael> hey, can anyone tell me what is the gtk version in Ubuntu 8.04?
[17:21] <gustavozb> hehehe
[17:21] <caveymason> amenado: so what egsacly do i need to put in the console and ill give you the output?
[17:21] <abramson__> hi, my keyboard seems to have been disabled in terminal, any suggestions?
[17:21] <amenado> caveymason-> man xrandr   to get the options, i dont use it often enuff to know it
[17:22] <J-Unit> is ubuntu mobile meant for pocket pc's? i have a hp ipaq rx3115 (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile)
[17:22] <underscore> linxeh: yeah, I just figured out how to do it. Thanks!
[17:22] <caveymason> amenado: yer i do i put it in and it just outputs the options list again without changing anything
[17:23] <abramson_> oh, never mind i fixed it
[17:23] <escupoenhardy> a lot of problem with ati ,hardy heron and compiz..
[17:23] <Pelo> sachael, 2.12.9
[17:23] <amenado> caveymason-> read the  man xrandr
[17:23] <sachael> thanks
[17:23] <amenado> caveymason-> manpage are just manual pages, its not going to execute the command
[17:24] <tijayz> does anyone know how to make boot process stop from looking for a resume device?
[17:24] <Auctionedllama> Hi
[17:24] <Pelo> tijayz, what process ,what error msg are you getting ?
[17:25] <caveymason> amenado: i put this xrandr --output --rotate right
[17:25] <tijayz> pelo on initramfs just when the sysstem stars it says "Begin waiting for resume device"
[17:25] <magnetron> J-Unit: Ubuntu Mobile is currently aimed at Intel's MID platform, http://www.intel.com/products/mid/
[17:25] <Auctionedllama> Ok, I just got compiz running, but whenever I instaleld xserver-xgl (required for compiz to run) I get terrible lag and low FPS.. Even if I disable compiz with xserver-xgl installed its still the same.. Is there any way to fix this
[17:25] <amenado> caveymason-> and what happens?
[17:25] <Pelo> tijayz, does this slowdown your system considerably ?
[17:25] <Auctionedllama> ??
[17:25] <tijayz> Yes
[17:25] <tijayz> By about 1 minute on booting
[17:26] <tijayz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/206358
[17:26] <J-Unit> magnetron, o, thats not good news for me :( i have just read in the pdf that its minimum requirements r higher than my pocket pc's specs anyway
[17:26] <tijayz> Here is a desc. of this bug
[17:26] <Auctionedllama> anyone know a solution?
[17:26] <Pelo> tijayz, try looking up the msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:26] <caveymason> amenado: nothing at al it just outputs this usage: xrandr [options]
[17:26] <caveymason>   where options are:
[17:26] <caveymason>   -display <display> or -d <display>
[17:26] <caveymason>   -help
[17:26] <caveymason>   -o <normal,inverted,left,right,0,1,2,3>
[17:26] <caveymason> theres more but i dont want to flood
[17:26] <Pelo> tijayz, if it's not solved on launchpad it's unlikely you'll find a solution here
[17:26] <amenado> caveymason-> i dont use it often enuff, read the man pages or google for more insights to it
[17:27] <Auctionedllama> Ok, I just got compiz running, but whenever I instaleld xserver-xgl (required for compiz to run) I get terrible lag and low FPS.. Even if I disable compiz with xserver-xgl installed its still the same.. Is there any way to fix this
[17:27] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, how much memory does your videocard use ?
[17:27] <Pelo> have
[17:27] <caveymason> i cba
[17:27] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i got another machine downstairs, and i forgot the command to romotely connect to it... its VNC-something, anyone have a clue what im talking about?
[17:27] <it_rains> Could anyone please let me know if ubuntu support ATI alc260 soundcard(integrated)?
[17:28] <Auctionedllama> pelo: it has 512 mb.. how do I enable the benchmark?
[17:28] <Pelo> it_rains, difficult to tel ust like that , look it up in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:28] <ToddEDM> !vnc
[17:28] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[17:28] <scout_> hello, i am setting up a dual WAN router on Ubuntu. When I bring up devices i receive error "RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth2" however ip addr ls shows them all as up and with IPs
[17:28] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, 512 should be enough, I thought the problem might have been caused by low video memory
[17:28] <it_rains> oh thank you!! i will look it up!
[17:28] <Auctionedllama> pelo: ya, it makes stuff extremely laggy
[17:29] <Auctionedllama> pelo: when I scroll in firefox I get like 5 FPS
[17:29] <h0m3r> ciao a tutti
[17:29] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, try asking in #compiz , I'm assuming they know better
[17:29] <nickrud> Auctionedllama try removing xserver-xgl and restarting the desktop. Then run fglrxinfo , make sure it's using the 8.37.6 ati driver
[17:29] <Auctionedllama> Pelo: ok thanks mate
[17:29] <dmsuperman_> Auctionedllama: I get that in windows when I don't install my driver, so I'd guess that'd be the same issue
[17:29] <h0m3r> hello
[17:29] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: if I don't install xserver-xgl compiz dies..
[17:30] <amenado> scout_-> you are trying to bring up an interface that is already up
[17:30] <nickrud> Auctionedllama yep. But if your driver isn't installed correctly it won't work either. Doing this simply a troubleshooting step
[17:30]  * Pelo loves how dmsuperman_ and nickrud jump in after he's done the ground work of asking for details
[17:30] <Clinteger> hey, I was running a distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and I think that the computer overheated and shutdown while I was away. Once I logged in, I just get a mouse pointer and a blue background. nothing else.
[17:30] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: O boy.. I ran it just now, and its using mesa
[17:30] <dmsuperman_> Pelo, I wasn't here to see it. Plus it doesn't hurt to have multiple people cooperating to help a single person :D
[17:30] <nickrud> Auctionedllama there you go :)
[17:31] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: all other things say its using the fglrx including xorg.conf
[17:31] <Pelo> Clinteger, boot the recovery mode and type  sudo apt-get install update , see if it finished
[17:31] <larry_> anyone know if i can use unbuntu for a DVR
[17:31] <|Dede|> Clin: That isn't the newest computer, eh?
[17:31] <Pelo> finished
[17:31] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: how do I fix this? my restricted drivers are enabled
[17:31] <nickrud> Auctionedllama did you do it while xserver-xgl is installed/running? That will always say that
[17:31] <scout_> amenado, if i do a stop on the device and then bring it up, i get the same result. also, when i do a stop and type ip addr ls it still shows the same output
[17:31] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ya.. ok lemme restart.. one sec
[17:31] <amenado> caveymason-> here is a good link it seems http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[17:31] <nickrud> or segfault, I don't remember which
[17:32] <Clinteger> Pelo, I just went into a console [ctrl+alt+f1] and I had to run dpkg --install -a or something... when I ran dist-upgrade again it told me that dpkg was interrupted and to run it. soo, it appears to be working now.
[17:32] <Pelo> Clinteger, ;-)
[17:32] <caveymason> amenado: ill have a read
[17:32] <Clinteger> thanks for the help, pelo!
[17:32] <dmsuperman_> Why is it that everybody seems to love KDE so much more than gnome? I was trying it out, and it didn't seem to have nearly as many great features as gnome. Is there some underlying reason I'm missing? Or is there some super-feature that I haven't found yet?
[17:32] <amenado> scout_-> do a  sudo ip link set eth2 down
[17:32] <Clinteger> dmsuperman its all personal choice :p
[17:32] <nickrud> !best | dmsuperman
[17:32] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[17:33] <Pelo> dmsuperman_, gnome as more users I beleive,  but the kde ppl are lound
[17:33] <rama_su> looking for the best screen capture program for ubuntu if anyone has advice
[17:33] <lartza_> Does the ubuntu nvidia drivers give the most performance your GFX card can handle?
[17:33] <nickrud> Pelo see factoid above ;)
[17:33] <Exteris> dmsuperman, kde looks more like windows
[17:33] <rama_su> lartza: no
[17:33] <nickrud> lartza_ in the linux world, yes
[17:34] <scout_> amenado, you are the man. wow that was to simple and i was searching bug reports for the kernel (debian etch 2.6.15 had this bug).
[17:34] <lartza_> nickrud: So it wont affect if i install the official nvidia drivers from nvidia site?
[17:34] <rama_su> However,thatis nvidia's fault for not releasing open source drivers
[17:34] <Pelo> rama_su, video capture or just plain screen capture ?  , video try recordmydesktop , screen just use the alt+prnscr
[17:34] <Clinteger> oh wow. it was nearly done with installing stuff, Pelo lol it just restarted >.<
[17:34] <nickrud> lartza_ the latest from nvidia *might* be better, depends on the chip and what they've done
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> nickrud: Where else might BestBot be? I don't see it in the ubuntu-bots channel
[17:34] <nickrud> dmsuperman it's gone? I'll poke the owner (when he gets up)
[17:34] <Exteris> dmsuperman, /whois ?
[17:34] <rama_su> Pelo: video capture microphone and screen for learning videos - thanks I'll try it.
[17:35] <eaglestar> !paste
[17:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> nickrud: alright, thanks
[17:35] <amenado> rama_su-> man xwd
[17:35] <lartza_> nickrud: Well then it wont affect me a much since i cant play games that my GFX card can handle :S
[17:35] <ColdBeer>  i need help with .htaccess, can anyone help?
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> ColdBeer: the apache docs are very helpful, have you tried that yet?
[17:35] <nickrud> lartza_ myself, I've given up running games in wine, never seem to run as well as they do natively
[17:35] <Pelo> ColdBeer , ask a specific question
[17:35] <rama_su> amanado: xwd ok thanks I'll check it out.
[17:35] <Auctionedllama> Hey dude, just restarted and ran fglrx and it says I'm still running Mesa
[17:35] <Auctionedllama> Bah!
[17:36] <Clinteger> uh oh... Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,)
[17:36] <amenado> rama_su-> or if you like to create a tutorial,  look or google for   wink
[17:36] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: just restarted, says I'm still running mesa, but everything is smooth now :P
[17:36] <ColdBeer> Pelo
[17:36] <ColdBeer> im trying to protect a specific dir on my apache2
[17:36] <lartza_> nickrud: I can't get some pretty simple games like Icytower or Hellcarrier to work since I have 800mhz cpu
[17:36] <Pelo> Clinteger, is your /home folder on a seperate partiton ?
[17:36] <ColdBeer> with .htaccess and passwd
[17:36] <nickrud> Auctionedllama With compiz?
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> ColdBeer: with mod_auth?
[17:36] <Clinteger> Pelo, no
[17:36] <ColdBeer> .htaccess
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> ColdBeer: pastebin your htaccess file
[17:36] <ColdBeer> .htpasswd
[17:36] <lartza_> Well, some of my commercial 3d games work
[17:37] <Pelo> Clinteger, sigh...  boot the recovery mode,  do you know how to do that ?
[17:37] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: what? I'm not running compiz because without xserver-xgl it whitescreens
[17:37] <lartza_> Icy TOwer etc. are not very CPU frinedly
[17:37] <Clinteger> Pelo, lmao yes :P but dont worruy about the home partition its just a new install.
[17:37] <gentlyninja> every new window i open appears behind the gnome-panel. how can i make the windows appear on different screen position?
[17:37] <nickrud> Auctionedllama ok, just wanted to be sure.
[17:37] <ColdBeer> AuthName "Restricted Area"
[17:37] <ColdBeer> AuthType Basic
[17:37] <ColdBeer> AuthUserFile /home/protect/.htpasswd
[17:37] <ColdBeer> AuthGroupFile /dev/null
[17:37] <ColdBeer> require valid-user
[17:37] <FloodBot2> ColdBeer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: how do I fix this mate?
[17:37] <dmsuperman_> !paste | ColdBeer
[17:37] <ubotu> ColdBeer: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:37] <nickrud> Auctionedllama first question: have you installed the driver from the ati site?
[17:37] <Pelo> Clinteger,  just clean installa then ,  donT' waste the time trying to figure it out
[17:37] <rama_su> ok recordmydesktop, xwd, wink
[17:37] <ColdBeer> sorry
[17:37] <rama_su> thanks guys
[17:37] <Clinteger> Pelo ok lmao
[17:38] <sharperguy> is it possible to run a command through ssh to open up an xorg application on the server?
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> ColdBeer: I usually just leave out the GroupFile option if not using it
[17:38] <amenado> sharperguy-> displayed to your local display?
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> ColdBeer: Do you have both .htpasswd, containing your htpasswd generated username/password in that location, and mod_auth enabled?
[17:38] <nickrud> Auctionedllama not saying you should or shouldn't, just gives me somewhere to start
[17:38] <Pelo> Clinteger, np  I just like the quickest root,  and you should  have booted the recovery mode to do those commands,  that way you had less stuff loaded, llike no X and such
[17:38] <katad0t1s> Help! I just updated some pkgs and I am stuck to cli!!! how do I get a gui again?
[17:38] <rama_su> also, I'm looking for the adobe acrobat professional open source equivalent for creating pdf's? if anyone would be so kind. ^^
[17:38] <eaglestar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63745/
[17:38] <Pelo> katad0t1s, start x
[17:38] <Clinteger> Pelo, lol yeah might have been better.. Oh well, I'm not too worried.
[17:38] <Pelo> katad0t1s, or startx
[17:39] <katad0t1s> Pelo x is broken
[17:39] <sharperguy> amenado, no, to the host desplay
[17:39] <eaglestar> question on make output
[17:39] <Pelo> katad0t1s, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:39] <eaglestar> i am trying to make madwifi patch on artheros wifi
[17:39] <amenado> sharperguy-> then how would you see it is displaying at the other end?
[17:39] <gregory> rama_su: ubuntu comes with an general pdf printer. any program can create a pdf. openoffice writer f.e.
[17:39] <eaglestar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63745/
[17:39] <Pelo> eaglestar, you are stating your case backward
[17:39] <katad0t1s> Pelo thanks will try
[17:39] <Clinteger> one hour until ubuntu's done downloading :(
[17:40] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, install build-essential
[17:40] <rama_su> gregory: open office writer ok thanks
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> Clinteger: what's your connection? If you get the torrent from their site, you can usually max your connection out
[17:40] <sharperguy> amenado, because its on the opposite side of the room to me, its a strange request i suppose but I was just wondering if it was possible
[17:40] <lartza_> Why isn't bestbot on ubuntu-bots???
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> Clinteger: I downloaded the whole ISO the other day in 7 minutes
[17:40] <SKuhn> hi, how can I test system-stability with ubuntu? for windows I always used prime95 (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm)
[17:40] <lartza_> He's the best
[17:40] <lartza_> Well haven't tried
[17:40] <nickrud> rama_su or draw, or presentation. Choose the one that will create the source you want most effectively
[17:41] <Clinteger> dmsuperman_ lmao im using the torrent, but getting only like 200kB/sec... my connection is about 320kb/sec maxed, i was getting that from the download server while upgrading ubuntu earlier.
[17:41] <Pelo> SKuhn, just google for linux benchmark I guess
[17:41] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: yes I have
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> Clinteger: aw, shame. 15mbps advertised ftw (but time warner ftl)
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> but back to the topic... :P
[17:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> where might I find my kernel soure? thanks in advance.
[17:41] <Clinteger> dmsuperman_, dsl here :D
[17:41]  * Pelo 's connection is pretty fast to today,  and Bell is suppose to be throttling
[17:41] <eaglestar> arvind build-essential is in the ubuntu cd or i have to dl it?
[17:42] <SKuhn> Pelo: I don't want to benchmark, I want to stress test and see if my big-calculater calculates correct
[17:42] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I have been working for 5 days to get my card working, so after my 4th format, I installed the driver via restricted, and then from ATI and then it worked
[17:42] <amenado> sharperguy i have not done it myself, maybe you have to toy with  xhost +ipaddresstodiplay_it_at
[17:42] <dmsuperman_> SKuhn: you mean a stability test? Like SuperPI for windows?
[17:42] <sharperguy> amenado, ok
[17:42] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, its there in the cd too you can also find it in the repo's
[17:42] <eaglestar> ok thanks
[17:42] <Pelo> SKuhn, then search for that in conjunction with linux,  or try asking in ##linux they mgiht know
[17:42] <eaglestar> so then it should work?
[17:42] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, have chrooted ???
[17:42] <SKuhn> dmsuperman: yes, like prime95 for windows
[17:42] <nickrud> Auctionedllama ok, try sudo modprobe fglrx , does it succeed? (no output is success)
[17:42] <RikkuMobile> must be the most full channel ever
[17:42] <eaglestar> no i am in windows partition
[17:43] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, what are you trying to do??
[17:43] <eaglestar> install madwifi patch
[17:43] <dmsuperman_> SKuhn: I don't know which program might do it, but you're looking for a stability test
[17:43] <Nihilist_Nerd> where might I find my kernel soure? thanks in advance.
[17:43] <eaglestar> it says in install file i have to put madwifi folder into high source directory
[17:43] <Pelo> eaglestar, did you take the time to read the INSTALL file in the tar.gz package ?
[17:43] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: no output
[17:43] <eaglestar> but i can't do it
[17:43] <eaglestar> yeah
[17:43] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, have you gone through the readme they provide and the requirements
[17:43] <Pelo> !source | Nihilist_Nerd
[17:43] <ubotu> Nihilist_Nerd: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[17:44] <nickrud> Auctionedllama ok, now log out and back in, and do the fglrxinfo command
[17:44] <RikkuMobile> speaking of wif, my lappy wont fund my wifi
[17:44] <SKuhn> dmsuperman: yes, a stability test. Honestly I wondered that prim95 isn't available with synaptics, because its open-source, too and really useful for that.
[17:44] <Pelo> !wifi | RikkuMobile
[17:44] <ubotu> RikkuMobile: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:44] <RikkuMobile> it did when it still ram xp
[17:44] <RikkuMobile> ahh
[17:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> Sorry, but I meant in the filesystem - not in the repo.
[17:44] <Auctionedllama> nickrud" so don't restart
[17:44] <dmsuperman_> SKuhn: open source and cross platform aren't always the same
[17:44] <SeaPhor> I am trying to go through a wireless setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 but there is no "debian" directory and i cant find any "control. " files in the extracted directory, any help?
[17:44] <nickrud> Auctionedllama no restart necessary
[17:44]  * Pelo notices that everyone says,  "it works in XP" and not "it works in Vista"
[17:45] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok brb
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> Pelo, Vista = ME 2...it's getting skipped over
[17:45] <Pelo> SeaPhor, did you try and did deeper in the filetree ?
[17:45]  * nickrud notices that most people aren't capable of running a decent vista setup
[17:46] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, how does that line come??
[17:46] <Pelo> SeaPhor, did = dig deeper
[17:46] <SeaPhor> Pelo: yes, every directory and even tried looking in the files
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> nickrud: Plenty _can_, but most would rather not throw away half a gig of ram on _nothing_
[17:46] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok same output.. mesa
[17:46] <Pelo> SeaPhor, ok try this , open a terminal and type  locate debian ,
[17:46] <nickrud> Sorry, that was the old troll coming out [ BACK! BACK!]
[17:46] <Ashfire908> does anyone know how to make use of the irc netfilter module?
[17:47]  * Pelo tempts the nickrud-daemon 
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> Pelo, DO IT
[17:47] <zeroflag> is there any way to launch the alternative installer from the live-cd?
[17:47] <nickrud> Auctionedllama now   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log look for something about mismatched kernel modules, should be a little more than halfway through
[17:47] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Ok, alot, should i cd to that directory first?
[17:47] <zeroflag> or any way to install live on a raid?
[17:47] <nickrud> Auctionedllama or pastebin it, and I'll take a look
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> zeroflag: You need the alternative cd i think
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> !raid | zeroflag
[17:47] <ubotu> zeroflag: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:47] <Randocal> Has anyone in here installed and configured fuppes to stream to an xbox360 or a PS3 before?
[17:48] <eaglestar> i have a madwifi patch to install
[17:48] <bubbLegray1> hi
[17:48] <eaglestar> anyone here ever install madwifi patch?
[17:48] <Pelo> SeaPhor, try  locate debian | grep "otherword that might narrow it down"  no quotes obviously
[17:48] <Clinteger> hey. I have a beta CD from last week or so, will the packages just update to the latest ones in the RC on install?
[17:48] <Pelo> eaglestar, try looking in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:49] <nickrud> Clinteger yes
[17:49] <FFighter> hello
[17:49] <Pelo> Clinteger, pretty much
[17:49] <Clinteger> okay, thanks
[17:49] <SKuhn> dmsuperman: It looks like it runs on StrongARM and PowerPCs, too (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) but I don't know what a GIMPS prize terms is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95)
[17:49] <Clinteger> 60% done burning :D
[17:49] <FFighter> how could I get this dpi thing working correctly in gnome? I would like the fonts and overall size of the GUI to be smaller, more proportional
[17:49] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: where is it? I can't find it.. how do I pastebin it
[17:49] <dmsuperman_> SKuhn: I'm in irssi, can't much open links haha
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> !dpi
[17:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> hrm
[17:50] <Pelo> FFighter, rigth cick the desktop,  change wallpaper,   font tab , at the top
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> FFighter: I'm pretty sure it's in the fonts, under appears
[17:50] <nickrud> Auctionedllama the file is at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , gedit  will open it. copy and paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> appearence*
[17:50] <SeaPhor> Pelo: i did  locate debian | grep control.*
[17:50] <Andy_chi> anyone have a link with instructions on how to reinstall ubuntu 7.10 on a / partition and reuse my old /home?
[17:50] <Nihilist_Nerd> Where in the filesystem might I find my kernel source? Thanks in advance.
[17:50] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no wildcard
[17:50] <nickrud> Auctionedllama and the capital X matters
[17:50] <summoning> hi
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, ok i think i have found it
[17:50] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Ok, ,,
[17:51] <FFighter> Pelo, dmsuperman thanks,
[17:51] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no need ,  grep just looks for strings , it doesnT differentiate between control and CONTROL and controler
[17:51] <summoning> I've got a creative soundblaster x-fi card, and they released new drivers. but the installation is unsuccessfull: http://www.brandschiff.de/creative.txt Maybe somebody got a similar card and knows whats wrong?
[17:51] <dtolj> Andy_chi: when you are ready to re-install format / but leave /home untouched
[17:51] <nickrud> Pelo  grep -i doesnt' differentiate
[17:51] <Auctionedllama> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63748/
[17:51] <sxsrKn> ulan türk yokmu bu kanalda
[17:51] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63748/
[17:52] <kyleky> How do I get MsSQL working on Ubuntu?
[17:52] <nickrud> !tr | sxsrKn
[17:52] <ubotu> sxsrKn: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:52] <FFighter> But it is strange, only the font size changes, the interface widgets stay the same size
[17:52] <Pelo> SeaPhor, read waht nickrud just said, grep -i does not differentiate , but apparently grep does
[17:52] <eaglestar> i am following this
[17:52] <eaglestar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4677827
[17:52] <Pelo> kyleky, install it ?
[17:52] <Andy_chi> dtolj, how does the new install know to use the old /home?
[17:52] <dmsuperman_> kyleky: I doubt it would work, it _is_ MicrosoftSQL Server. You might possibly get it going with Wine, but I highly doubt it would bring the stability needed for a db server. Why can't you use MySQL?
[17:52] <eaglestar> where do i extract the madwifi tar?
[17:53] <dtolj> kyleky: you can't install it on ubuntu but you can use drivers to bind to it
[17:53] <Pelo> eaglestar,  it helps if ou use the name of the person you are talking to in each line
[17:53] <zippytech> any one have problems installing grub
[17:53] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, thats for 8.04 which ubuntu do you have
[17:53] <dtolj> kyleky: from php for example
[17:53] <Pelo> eaglestar, extract to your desktop and read the file in it
[17:53] <Pelo> zippytech, ask in #grub
[17:53] <kyleky> I need to connect to it with PHP, sorry for the confusion
[17:53] <SeaPhor> Pelo: i did  locate debian | grep -i control  and nothing associated with ndiswrapper that i can see
[17:53] <dtolj> Andy_chi: you can specify that in the installer since that partition is already created
[17:53] <nickrud> Auctionedllama ok, you got mixed fglrx kernel modules from restricted and the ati install.    sudoedit   /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common , and   fglrx  to DISABLED_MODULES , and reboot.
[17:53] <zippytech> thanks
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, you need build-essential as i said
[17:54] <Andy_chi> dtolj, ok thanks I'll give it a try
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:54] <dmsuperman_> kyleky: A quick google results: http://panthar.org/2006/06/15/php-with-mssql-on-ubuntu-606/
[17:54] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[17:54] <Pelo> SeaPhor, it might not mention ndiswrapper until you put something about it in there , but I'm just guessing
[17:54] <eaglestar> ok i will go to try it
[17:54] <eaglestar> do i need anything else
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> eaglestar, as of now i cant say...jus try that first
[17:54] <eaglestar> ok
[17:55] <Pelo> SeaPhor, are you following a guide ?  gimme the link so I can have a look  (i'm bored enough to give it a shot)
[17:55] <Ashfire908> what's the command to get info for a kernel module?
[17:55] <nickrud> Auctionedllama thta was 'add' , not 'and' to the line ;)
[17:55] <Pelo> Ashfire908, lsmod
[17:55] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[17:55] <SeaPhor> Pelo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[17:55] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[17:55] <Pelo> SeaPhor, what step are you at ?
[17:55] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: k rebooting, brb
[17:55] <Ashfire908> Pelo that lists loaded modules
[17:56] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: yes, I've done this all before, multiple times
[17:56] <Pelo> Ashfire908, thought that was what you wanted , sorry
[17:56] <arvind_khadri> !modules
[17:56] <ubotu> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubotu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubotu blacklist
[17:56] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Untar it and go into the ndiswrapper directory /from there go to the debian directory.
[17:56] <Pelo> SeaPhor, ok from the top then
[17:56] <Ashfire908> Pelo i want to display the info for a kernel module
[17:56] <nickrud> Ashfire908 modinfo
[17:56] <arvind_khadri> !modules | Ashfire908
[17:56] <ubotu> Ashfire908: please see above
[17:57] <jeffimperial> anyone care to help me update filezilla FTP client?
[17:57] <Ashfire908> nickrud, thanks could remember what it was
[17:57] <brian_da_linux_g> has anyone in here found a fix to get voice to work in second life in linux
[17:57] <brian_da_linux_g> I've tried different things but have had no luck
[17:57] <SeaPhor> Pelo: there is no debian directory and no control.anything files
[17:57] <Ashfire908> nickrud, *couldn't
[17:57] <Pelo> SeaPhor,  do you have a ndiswrapper dir ?
[17:57] <FFighter> how can I get the correct DPI value for my monitor?
[17:58] <gilster32> anyone have experience here manually addig and MTP mp3 player?
[17:58] <Pelo> SeaPhor, gimme the link to that nwisrapper source file
[17:58] <gilster32> anyone have experience here manually adding an MTP mp3 player?
[17:58] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok, do I run fglrxinfo?
[17:58] <nickrud> Auctionedllama yes
[17:58] <Pelo> SeaPhor, are you running amd64 ubuntu ?
[17:58] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: still mesa mate
[17:58] <SeaPhor> Pelo: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=99148&release_id=573476
[17:59] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[17:59] <SeaPhor> Pelo: yes 7.10 amd64
[17:59] <FFighter> 15.4 inches, wide lcd screen - does anyone know what is the recommended DPI value for this particular configuration?
[17:59] <gilster32> I have an mp3 flash player that only supports MTP mode. None of my audio programs pick it up automatically but when i do lsusb...i see it there. and MTP-Detect picks it up at least to some degree
[17:59] <Dmole> what is better than smbfs or sshfs? something more like googlefs
[17:59] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[18:00] <nickrud> Auctionedllama getting the ati from the site to work is a real pain. Did you ever see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide , it was the only way it ever worked for me
[18:00] <Cahan> FFighter, 96
[18:00] <will> yeah, standard 96
[18:00] <jeffimperial> filezilla update not yet available through synaptic?
[18:00] <FFighter> Cahan, thanks,
[18:00] <FastZ> how many more times you gonna ask jeffimperial?
[18:00] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: yes I tried that after the 2nd format, to no success
[18:00] <jeffimperial> FastZ or anyone gonna answer?
[18:00] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out, I just did a fresh install of Gutsy, but my video card is only being picked up as a Vesa...I know there is a driver, but restricted drivers manager says I don't need a restricted driver.
[18:01] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thank you for looking this over, i have been tryiing for so long and I cant give up, I have CAT% cable strung all thru In-Law's house i have to get rid of it by monday
[18:01] <nickrud> Auctionedllama how serious about this are you? Can you wait a week, hardy has the latest ati as default, works well (and no xserver-xgl needed)
[18:01] <FastZ> jeffimperial: if you dont see the update in synaptic then my best guess is that it's "not yet available through synaptic"...because that's makes common sense...
[18:01] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I am serious, I am just really wanting to get this running D:
[18:01] <SeaPhor> Pelo: *CAT5*
[18:01] <jeffimperial> FasZ well thanks.. so much for open source support
[18:01] <FFighter> hmm, Gnome really renders things big then
[18:02] <nickrud> Auctionedllama lsmod | grep fglrx , is it loaded?
[18:02] <FFighter> I get the feeling that I dont have much screen real-state when using Gnome
[18:02] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I got no output
[18:02] <FastZ> jeffimperial: it makes sense doesnt it though?  If you ask if something is available or not when you can see for yourself if it is doesnt really make much sense.  then on top of that, you asked the exact same question three times in a matter of like 2 minutes...
[18:02] <nickrud> Auctionedllama sudo modprobe fglrx , try that
[18:02] <mutable> Hello. I need to restore nvidia drivers from ubuntu repos. I Installed linux-restriced-modules-`uname r` and nvidia-glx but when KDM don't want to start :(.
[18:03] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I'm gonna take a guess here that the package you downloaded is not architecture specific,  ignore that step and proceed to the next one
[18:03] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I got "FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory"
[18:03] <FFighter> any hints on how to get Gnome to render things smaller generally?
[18:03] <nickrud> Auctionedllama sudo depmod -a , and try again
[18:04] <jeffimperial> FastZ: yeah well thanks anyway. just couldn't find it anywhere, and filezilla-project.org installer seems to not work for me..
[18:04] <mutable> I'm getting no device detected in Xorg.0.olg :(
[18:04] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I got "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[18:05] <FastZ> 3.0.0-ubuntu1 is what shows up in my synaptic but I have 3.0.9-1 installed on my computer (all you gotta do is download the .tar.bz2 from their website and unpack it)
[18:05] <one_> hi all
[18:05] <Pelo> SeaPhor, STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING
[18:05] <nickrud> Auctionedllama then you don't have the fglrx from the ati install, for whatever reason. I don't remember from the install instructions, but wasn't there some step where you needed to do a compile, after installing the kernel headers and build-essential?
[18:05] <FastZ> jeffimperial: sorry for being an ass...havent had enough coffee yet today :P
[18:06] <one_> if i do sudo apt-get upgrade to hardy, do i need to edit grub?
[18:06] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Ok
[18:06] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: not sure, I just itsalled all the packages it decompiled
[18:06] <SeaPhor> Pelo: What did i do?
[18:06] <Pelo> SeaPhor, the instructions you are using are for hoary ,  that's over 3 years old
[18:06] <jeffimperial> FastZ: Been there done that.. i'll try again a little later.. don't worry, Fast, we all have our bad days..Was being an ass myself
[18:07] <PurpZeY> I just did a fresh install of Gutsy, but my video card is only being picked up as a Vesa...I know there is a driver available, but restricted drivers manager says I don't need a restricted driver....But it's only coming up as Vesa, so I don't know how to allow a restricted driver....Or set it up properly so it works...
[18:07] <nickrud> Auctionedllama  find /lib/modules -iname fglrx.ko , there'll be one in volatile and hopefully one in misc
[18:07] <Pelo> SeaPhor, go to this link and download those pacakges the debs,    http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ndiswrapper+
[18:07] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ooo ok, Thank You
[18:07] <jarred> hi
[18:07] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: do I run that command in terminal/
[18:07] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I got no output
[18:07] <Pelo> SeaPhor, only the ones for your release
[18:07] <FastZ> jeffimperial: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/filezilla/FileZilla_3.0.9.2_i586-linux-gnu.tar.bz2  download that to your machine, right click it, extract here, then in the FileZilla3 folder, look for the bin folder, open that up, then double click the FileZilla icon
[18:08] <jarred> u guys know hows to properly edit the sudoers file
[18:08] <jarred> so itr will actulley work
[18:08] <nickrud> Auctionedllama no output at all? That is not good. Are you sure you typed it correctly? (I just did a copy paste here, found mine)
[18:09] <FastZ> jeffimperial: what i do is i create a launcher on my desktop that points to /filezilla3/bin/filezilla
[18:09] <usar> hi. Will Hardy Hardon really be out on the 24th?
[18:09] <Pelo> usar, hardy heron
[18:09] <Pelo> ...
[18:09] <Pelo> and it is suppose to be
[18:09] <usar> nice
[18:09] <jeffimperial> Fastz: Ok..doing it right now. le'me get back to you in a zip..thanks
[18:10] <FastZ> jeffimperial: alright
[18:10] <usar> and will hardy hardon really come with a firefox *beta*? :(
[18:10] <don_bilbo13> hi
[18:10] <Ubuntu-Psy> o
[18:10] <Ximal> Earlier I did a sudo dpkg-xserver omething something to reconfigure my video to work with a higher resolution and now all I get is a BLANK screen when I log into UBUNTU ... could someone please restate the sudo dpkg command please so I can try using the prompt ? or is there a way to reverse this through the command line at boot up ?
[18:10] <nickrud> usar yes. but #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <usar> nickrud: aight. I will go there to ask about hardy hardon
[18:11] <will> OK time for my question, what's the best/easiest way to get Ubuntu to display in 1680x1050? Closest I can get right now is 1600x1024 (which I've never heard of lol)
[18:11] <PurpZeY> Ximal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg (I believe)
[18:12] <Ximal> Thnks purzey ... please stay in room for like 5 minutes so if I can't redo it ... i can do SOMTHING I hope..
[18:12] <Ximal> brb
[18:12] <Orbixx> will: System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics.
[18:12] <PurpZeY> I'm not entirely sure I can help you much beyond that, I'm experiencing problems with video myself....
[18:12] <Orbixx> will: Double clicking the Model.
[18:13] <Orbixx> Tick widescreen, hit ok, then select a resolution again.
[18:13] <will> it says 1600x1200
[18:13] <shivali> how can i download wine software
[18:13] <Orbixx> will: Keep looking around...
[18:13] <PurpZeY> I just did a fresh install of Gutsy, but my video card is only being picked up as a Vesa...I know there is a driver available, but restricted drivers manager says I don't need a restricted driver....But it's only coming up as Vesa, so I don't know how to allow a restricted driver....Or set it up properly so it works...
[18:13] <LainIwakura> hi i cant get on the internet with ubuntu.. i have a wireless broadband connection. in windows i can create a new connection and it works. in ubuntu, i tried sudo pppoeconf but that says it can't detect anything. any suggestions? thanks a lot (i dont want to use windows just because i cant get internet to work on ubuntu)
[18:13] <will> I have done Orbixx
[18:13] <Orbixx> shivali: Open console and type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[18:13] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: repaste it to me
[18:13] <nickrud> Auctionedllama  find /lib/modules -iname fglrx.ko , there'll be one in volatile and hopefully one in misc
[18:13] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I found ndiswrapper in the synaptic package manager, would that be a better source to install from?
[18:14] <Pelo> SeaPhor, yes
[18:14] <Orbixx> will: Then edit xorg.conf to change the proposed resolutions.
[18:14] <will> Orbixx: I didn't look hard enough, you win :D
[18:14] <Orbixx> will: :) Told you.
[18:14] <Pelo> SeaPhor, and the -utils one as well, it's the same pacakges anyways
[18:14] <will> I see it now, lol, I was searching Google seeing all these crazy guides to make Ubuntu recognise 1680x1050 I thought it couldn't be that simple, cheers :)
[18:14] <phoenix24> how can I verify If I'm running a 64bit kernel ?
[18:14] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Got-it ;-)
[18:15] <Orbixx> will: I was in the same situation 3 days ago ;)
[18:15] <ActionParsni1> hey all
[18:15] <ActionParsni1> how can I make firefox want to remember a usename / password for a aprticular site if I said never remember it previously?
[18:15] <will> Heh, cheers
[18:15] <Derspankster> can Ubuntu server be administered remotely?
[18:15] <phoenix24> "uname -a | grep x86_64 ", is it valid for a 64bit kernel ??
[18:15] <zvacet> phoenix24 : type uname -a and see output
[18:15] <Orbixx> Derspankster: Yes, with SSHd.
[18:15] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: wowzers, no output matey
[18:15] <Ashfire908> Derspankster, yes, via ssh
[18:15] <phoenix24> zvacet, "uname -a | grep x86_64 ", is it valid for a 64bit kernel ??
[18:15] <ActionParsni1> Derspankster: check ssh :)
[18:15] <McJester> how do i do a FULL install from the alt iso
[18:16] <tomd123> does anyone know if I can get my motioneye camera on my laptop to work under ubuntu?
[18:16] <x1alpha> Is there a possibility that when updating from dapper to hardy directly on a dual booting machine to break windows. or is it safe ?
[18:16] <shivali> hello , I am getting the following message when i do the sudo command
[18:16] <shivali> shivali@dell-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[18:16] <shivali> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:16] <shivali> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:16] <FloodBot2> shivali: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <Derspankster> ActionParsni1: and others - thanks, I'll check SSH
[18:16] <ActionParsni1> McJester: define full?
[18:16] <Pelo> McJester, you burn the image to a cd and you boot it, it's the same as the live cd , but no desktp, just a graphical installer
[18:16] <Pelo> just a text based intallser I mean
[18:16] <Ashfire908> shivali, close any other instance of apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, etc.
[18:16] <nickrud> Auctionedllama ok, do sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) xorg-driver-fglrx  . Hopefully this will get you back to using the ubuntu driver. Reboot.
[18:17] <LainIwakura> shivali, make sure other package managers are closed
[18:17] <LainIwakura> hi i cant get on the internet with ubuntu.. i have a wireless broadband connection. in windows i can create a new connection and it works. in ubuntu, i tried sudo pppoeconf but that says it can't detect anything. any suggestions? thanks a lot (i dont want to use windows just because i cant get internet to work on ubuntu)
[18:17] <malebria> Hello, I'll ask this here in #ubuntu because I don't know where else to ask.  I'm trying to create a .xmodmap file with some specific lines.  Some of them are working, but some not.  For instance, keycode 38 = a A leftdoublequotemark A leftdoublequotemark A is working, but keycode 41 = f F rightdoublequotemark F rightdoublequotemark F is not.
[18:17] <transformers> what kind of proxy does irc/freenode accept?
[18:17] <McJester> Pelo, can I initiate the install from my current Xubuntu 6.10?
[18:18] <mnemo> if I want to run windows in a virtual machine as a window inside Ubuntu, what programs can I use for that?
[18:18] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | mnemo
[18:18] <ubotu> mnemo: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[18:18] <Ashfire908> transformers, that's offtopic, you could ask in #freenode maybe, but define "proxy"
[18:18] <Pelo> McJester, initiate the install ? you mean an upgrade ? , you can only upgrade to the next release in this case 7.04  ,  or ifyou are using hte lts to the next lts,  but you can't upgrade and jump releases
[18:18] <PurpZeY> Can anyone help me out...I just did a fresh install of Gutsy, but my video card is only being picked up as a Vesa...I know there is a driver available, but restricted drivers manager says I don't need a restricted driver....How can I enable restricted drivers manager or setup my card right? It is an NVidia
[18:19] <erUSUL> !nvidia | PurpZeY
[18:19] <ubotu> PurpZeY: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:19] <McJester> Pelo, thanks
[18:19] <StealthCP> transformers, any, as long as it isn't dangerous to the network, why?
[18:19] <malebria> My point is to make Alt Gr, I think it's Mod 2, Alt Gr + f become rightdoublequotemark
[18:19] <Pelo> McJester, from 6.10 you will either have to do the incremental updates until you get to 7.10, ie 2 more upgrades, or you clean install,  I recommend clean intall, just put your /home folder on a seperate partitons
[18:19] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: k lemme reboot
[18:19] <malebria> Which is working only with a.
[18:19] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: Restricted drivers manager tells me I don't need any restricted drivers.
[18:20] <nickrud> Auctionedllama
[18:20] <x1alpha> Is there a possibility that when updating from dapper to hardy directly on a dual booting machine to break windows. or is it safe ?
[18:20] <nickrud> Auctionedllama after you reboot, you'll need to do the restricted manager step and reboot agian
[18:20] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok, should i now nav to the directory where i have the driver.inf file and do a   sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185.inf ?
[18:20] <Pelo> SeaPhor, sounds about right
[18:20] <zvacet> x1alpha : it should be safe.
[18:20] <Ashfire908> transformers, to my knoledge, freenode doesn't have a problems with irc gateways and bouncers being used to connect to the network.
[18:20] <Viele-baeren> hi
[18:21] <nickrud> x1alpha the worst that would happen is you'd lose the windows boot, and have to edit menu.lst to get it back
[18:21] <shivali> hey thanks it worked
[18:21] <Ximal> ok purpleyez u there ?
[18:22] <cool> How to install Syslinux ?
[18:22] <theuser1> using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  , any help?
[18:22] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: "lspci | grep -i" vga what gives ??
[18:22] <PurpZeY> Ximal: I am here....But unlikely I can help.
[18:22] <x1alpha> nickrud: if grub is still intact after update
[18:22] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok now what do I run?
[18:22] <nickrud> x1alpha yes
[18:22] <x1alpha> thanks anyway :)
[18:22] <nickrud> Auctionedllama restricted-manager, and reboot again ;)
[18:22] <varsendaggr> hey how can i select a random selection of files that equal a certain MB or GB?
[18:22] <Ximal> Ok I figured out how to loging via TTY1 through 6
[18:22] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I just type in restricted manager?
[18:22] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0611 (rev a2)
[18:23] <Ximal> purpzey : do u know how I would change my active xserver resolution /
[18:23] <Auctionedllama> nickrud.. aww its unchecked D:
[18:23] <nickrud> Auctionedllama oh, and make sure that you remove fglrx from the disabled modules in the /etc/default file
[18:23] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: sudo update-pciids  ??
[18:23] <cool> How to install Syslinux, i am installing  FromUSBStick as described here ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:23] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: can you get me the command for that again?
[18:23] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: and when I usually check this driver I get a black screen upon boot up, lets hope not..
[18:23] <Ximal> If I am unable to view it... I bet selecting all resolutions earlier screwed it up good... so If I can get the resolution to a support one by this TV then I can redo the config and then reboot I am betting..
[18:23] <edmont> hi
[18:23] <erUSUL> cool: sudo apt-get install syslinux
[18:23] <nickrud> sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[18:24] <Ximal> supported rather than support
[18:24] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: thanks mate
[18:24] <nickrud> Auctionedllama what video chip do you have?
[18:24] <theuser1> using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  , any help?
[18:24] <Auctionedllama> x1650 prop
[18:24] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: X1650 pro
[18:24] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I'm looking for a more updated guide so i know what to do next
[18:24] <cool> erUSUL, E: Couldn't find package syslinux
[18:24] <Pelo> !wifi | SeaPhor
[18:24] <ubotu> SeaPhor: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:24] <erUSUL> !info syslinux | cool
[18:24] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: That for me to do, or just an idea? You said ?? as if you weren't sure. update pciids...
[18:24] <linkmaster03> ps faux is the command to show all processes correct?
[18:25] <jeffimperial> FastZ: Thanks a lot man.. went like clockwork.. just an idea, is it now safe to remove my previous install of FileZilla?
[18:25] <ubotu> cool: syslinux (source: syslinux): Bootloader for Linux/i386 using MS-DOS floppies. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.36-4ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 317 kB, installed size 688 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 lpia)
[18:25] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: time for restart matey.. and BTW my chipset can't use the opensource driver FTW
[18:25] <nickrud> Auctionedllama hm, the ubuntu fglrx says it supports x1600, but doesn't mention the 1650. Are they that different?
[18:25] <Ximal> I mean is there a command that can be put in through command line or tty/terminal to change reso's?
[18:25] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: no, should function
[18:25] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: maybe the restricted manager didn't pick up the card becouse it appears as unknow device
[18:25] <cool> erUSUL, i am unable to install it
[18:25] <Ashfire908> cool: you have to say what your having trouble with before someone can help you (please don't tell/ask me, i have no experiece with the syslinux project)
[18:25] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: it just has a few added bonuses than the 1600.. ok gonna reboot
[18:25] <Ashfire908> erUSUL, syslinux is a project
[18:25] <SeaPhor> Pelo: lol, thats how i got where i was, its the 3rd link down
[18:25] <linkmaster03> ps faux is the command to show all processes correct?
[18:25] <larson9999> crap, i can't find the contrast button on the laptop and it's soooo dark
[18:25] <UltraNav> how do I get a disk mirrored with LVM ?
[18:25]  * theuser1 waits
[18:25] <zvacet> Ximal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:26] <Pelo> SeaPhor, it should just be a matter of starting up ndiwrapper and connecting,  check in admin > network
[18:26] <cool> Ashfire908, i am following this page ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:26] <Ashfire908> erUSUL, ignore my last message
[18:26] <Ximal> AHHH
[18:26] <Ximal> zvacet he said .ORG earlier.. tht's why i couldn't get it done..
[18:26] <erUSUL> cool: it is in main unless you have a total messed up sources.list you have to be able to install it
[18:26] <Ximal> My monitor doesn't support some of the reso's i selected so now my xserver tty is ded
[18:26] <Ximal> brb
[18:26] <linkmaster03> guys isn't "ps faux" the command to show all the processes?
[18:26] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: Ok, I ran that command do I need to restart X for it to take?
[18:26] <edmont> my hp pavilion tx1320us has a nVidia GeForce 6150, but HD movies dont play very smoothly (I have installed nVidia drivers)
[18:26] <NW2190> Hi, does anyone know of any good docks for gnome?
[18:26] <edmont> is that a known issue?
[18:26] <Orbixx> How do I search an entire directory of files and get them to return files that contain a particular string?
[18:26] <cool> erUSUL, i also think also, resorting backup to sources.lst
[18:26] <larson9999> the manual sows me a pic of the icon that should be on it but not an actual pic of the button
[18:27] <nickrud> !awn | NW2190
[18:27] <ubotu> NW2190: awn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe in Hardy
[18:27] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: nope just try the resticted manager again
[18:27] <Ashfire908> cool, i just said DON'T ask/tell me your issue.
[18:27] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: No dice.
[18:27] <cool> *restoring*
[18:27] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: :|
[18:27] <linkmaster03> guys isn't "ps faux" the command to show all the processes?
[18:27] <will> Cheers Orbixx, I don't know why I couldn't see that before! All the evil blurriness has gone for good. :D
[18:27] <NW2190> nickrud: ok cool I'll check that out
[18:27] <tomm__> Hi, I have installed NVidia drivers through the Restricted Package option in Gutsy. When I reboot and X starts both my monitors go into standby, any ideas?
[18:27] <Pelo> later folks
[18:27] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: But the lspci is showing the device for what it is now.
[18:27] <zvacet> Ximal : do you know which ones does support?
[18:27] <linkmaster03> -.-
[18:27] <tomm__> I cannot find any errors in /var/log/Xorg.o.log or dmesg
[18:27] <FastZ> jeffimperial: yeah, you should be able to sudo apt-get remove filezilla and the new version you put on there will remain
[18:28] <linkmaster03> can anyone see this?
[18:28] <Orbixx> will: No prob mate ;)
[18:28] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: well that's pretty cosmetic thing it seems...
[18:28] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok now what matey?
[18:28] <nickrud> Auctionedllama try the fglrxinfo
[18:28] <linkmaster03> CAN ANYBODY SEE THIS?
[18:28] <nickrud> linkmaster03 no
[18:28] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: same thing
[18:28] <PurpZeY> linkmaster03: I see it.
[18:28] <tomm__> linkmaster03: YES!
[18:28] <linkmaster03> guys isn't "ps faux" the command to show all the processes?
[18:28] <nickrud> Auctionedllama mesa?
[18:28] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: yup
[18:28] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: Any recommendations on how to proceed?
[18:29] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: This is what the lspci is throwing off: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2)
[18:29] <dmsuperman> I have an NTFS partition with a bunch of media. It has music, and in each of the sub folders there's a ton of desktop.ini and thumbs.db folders, which are useless to me now. How can I:
[18:29] <dmsuperman> 1)Delete all of these extra files, without touching any other files, and not having to do each by hand, and
[18:29] <dmsuperman> 2)This is optional,  but change the partition from NTFS to EXT3 without moving or losing the data
[18:29] <linkmaster03> lol @ netsplit
[18:29] <nickrud> take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , put it back up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[18:30] <theuser1> using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  ,       g4l uses   partiimage   and that uses  the dd comand i   think.....              any help?
[18:30] <zvacet> dmsuperman : you can not format witout losing data
[18:30] <jarred> dmsuperman: Those files are harmless and maybe at most 1kb 2 2kb and there is noway to delete those other than manually
[18:30] <tomm__> nickrud: Was that directed at me?
[18:30] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: find /PATHTOROOTMEDIAFOLDER -name 'desktop.ini' | xargs -i rm {}
[18:30] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: all other commands besides that says everything is fine, which annoys me
[18:30] <jarred> they are pointless to delete as it would take lots of time
[18:30] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: ouch.... with that card on gutsy you can not use the prepackaged drivers you have to either use envy or install driver from nvidia.com (with the risks that both options have)
[18:30] <nickrud> tomm__ no, I've been struggling with Auctionedllama's ati issue
[18:30] <dmsuperman> zvacet, I figured as much, so I wasn't expecting much. I just figured that since they're somewhat similar it might be possible
[18:31] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: maybe you are better upgrading to hardy ???
[18:31] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: Hardy will support this card more readily?
[18:31] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: do the same with the thumbs.db files and you're golden.
[18:31] <fefe> ciao
[18:31] <jeffimperial> FastZ: Thanks a lot. really. gotta run now. deadline's in 25 mintues and still have 17MB of uploads and deletions to do with a darn website..thanks again
[18:31] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, Where might I specify a verbose output, or a place to log, so I can be sure I haven't lost any extra files
[18:31] <nickrud> Auctionedllama yeah, the fglrx will work fine without the kernel module, but you don't get acceleration without it
[18:31] <dtolj> xdaliclock thats the name
[18:31] <dmsuperman> jarred, They just bug me, I'm very particular about the organization of my media folders :P
[18:32] <jarred> how do i whisper?
[18:32] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: man.. ok it says to black list ati-agp in the blacklist thing.. can you give me the command to do that again?
[18:32] <FastZ> jeffimperial: no prob.  glad you got it going.  laters.
[18:32] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: run the find command without the: | xargs -i rm {}
[18:32] <nickrud> Auctionedllama where does it say that?
[18:32] <Auctionedllama> on the
[18:32] <Auctionedllama> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[18:32] <jarred> /
[18:32] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, _awesome_, thanks a ton :D
[18:32] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: yep it should
[18:32] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: about half way down the page where it talks about mesa
[18:32] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: no problem.
[18:32] <nickrud> Auctionedllama system->admin->restricted driver , enable ati restricted. reboot. log in, run fglrxinfo and make sure it's using ati 8.37.6 driver. install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager , then log out and back in. Go to system->prefs->appearance effects tab is the standard steps (works nearly every time)
[18:32] <jarred> how do i whisper to somone
[18:33] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: well its not..
[18:33] <phoenix24> Where can I get the 64bit Ubutu kernel ?
[18:33] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: The last time I tried an update...I had a problem w/ Gnome-power-manager, could it be related to this, and consequently, if I did an update that included hardy would it likely go away?
[18:33] <erUSUL> jarred: define "whisper"
[18:33] <nickrud> Auctionedllama obviously ;p
[18:33] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: I only ask b/c it required a clean install.
[18:33] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, Just for my own curiosity, I like to learn. I'm thinking that find will list all the files that match the criteria, then | means pass the output to the xargs command, which then takes the -i rm {} and runs it so each line passed to xargs is sent as another arg to rm ?
[18:33] <Ximal> zvtac u there //
[18:33] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, is that an acurate description?
[18:33] <jarred> erUSL: how do i privately talk to somone
[18:33] <zAltEKK> If I go to System->Preferences->Appearance, click the Visual Effects tab, and then select something other than Normal, I get a message box that says "The Composite extension is not available"
[18:33] <jarred> like
[18:33] <jarred> in wow
[18:33] <jarred> you type
[18:33] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: how can I blacklist those?
[18:33] <FloodBot2> jarred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <jarred>  /whisper
[18:34] <jarred> to whisper
[18:34] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: well different people has different problems with dist upgrades... i have upgraded many times without problems
[18:34] <erUSUL> jarred: private msgs ??
[18:34] <erUSUL> !pm | jarred
[18:34] <ubotu> jarred: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[18:34] <osmosis> I wonder if the RC will likely be the same as the final.
[18:34] <jarred> thanks
[18:34] <Ximal> OK .. I was unable to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org ... is there a command to force display0 into a certain resolution ?
[18:34] <erUSUL> jarred: also you need to be registered in freenode
[18:34] <jarred> !pm erUSUL thanks
[18:34] <zionpsyfer> jarred: dmsuperman indeed it is.  It's a pretty powerful combination.  worth reading the man pages for both find and xargs.  you can find based on the creation time, modify time, name, ownership. xargs has a bunch of options as well.
[18:35] <erUSUL> !register > jarred
[18:35] <zionpsyfer> bah
[18:35] <jarred> !register > jarred
[18:35] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: I just opened catalyst control center, one sec
[18:35] <jarred> !register
[18:35] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:35] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: Ok. Well, then I'll deal a few days with this like this (vesa)...And when hardy is released. . .upgrade.
[18:35] <jarred> !register jarred
[18:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register jarred - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:35] <unop__> dmsuperman, xargs there actually takes a bunch of files piped to it from find .. so it creates something like 'rm file1 file2 file3 .."
[18:35] <Ximal> purpzey do u by chnce know the command ?
[18:35] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: have you tried to use the nv driver??
[18:35] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, cool. One quick problem though, it says "xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option" when I run it
[18:35] <tomd123> does anyone know how I can listen and rip internet radio stations using just one stream instead of 2 separate streams/connections?
[18:35] <jarred> !register
[18:35] <PurpZeY> Ximal: What command?
[18:35] <dmsuperman> unop_, ah, I thought it did them line by line, like rm file1, rm file2
[18:35] <murlidhar> !test
[18:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[18:35] <jarred> !register > jarred
[18:35] <murlidhar> hmm
[18:36] <nickrud> Auctionedllama try  sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10fglrx
[18:36] <erUSUL> !botabuse | jarred
[18:36] <ubotu> jarred: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:36] <dmsuperman> !msgthebot | jarred
[18:36] <techsta> anyone here running an 8800gts ?
[18:36] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: I've tried it makes Gnome go away....It makes things worse than they are. if it works at ll.
[18:36] <Ximal> a command to boot into the kernel I want to with a specific resolution from the command line option where you choose which kernel to boot .. in the grub menu
[18:36] <murlidhar> !test | jarred
[18:36] <ubotu> jarred: please see above
[18:36] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: what's the path?  spaces or goofy characters sometimes cause issues.
[18:36] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: no output..
[18:36] <mrpockets> hey dude
[18:36] <PurpZeY> techsta: I am and am having problems with it... 8800GT..
[18:36] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: fair enouh
[18:36] <jarred> !register
[18:36] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:36] <nickrud> Auctionedllama good!  sudo ldconfig , log out and back in
[18:36] <unop__> dmsuperman, it would be much better to write that as.    find /path -iname "desktop.ini" -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[18:36] <murlidhar> jarred, bot is not working
[18:36] <murlidhar> it is now oops
[18:36] <ethand> how does one use apt-get to show installed apps?
[18:37] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, hrm, there are spaces in some of the folder names within the music folder...is there a way to have it quote each argument as it's passed to rm?
[18:37] <techsta> PumpZeY: is that the GT or GTS ?
[18:37] <unop__> dmsuperman, that should take care of filenames with spaces and other weird characters
[18:37] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok brb then.. also there was no output for the other command too
[18:37] <dmsuperman> unop_, ah, thanks :d
[18:37] <PurpZeY> techsta: GT.
[18:37] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: unop_s method should work for you.  give it a try.
[18:38] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: just ran fglrxinfo.. same error
[18:38] <dmsuperman> zionpsyfer, unop_, yup, unop_'s did it. Thanks again :D
[18:38] <techsta> PurpZeY: yeah just wanting to know what are some good 3d apps to run .. i dont have any problems yet cause i am in vmware and nothing video related works that well :)
[18:38] <jarred> ok
[18:38] <nickrud> unop_ as an aside, is there a particular reason to use xargs over -exec ?
[18:38] <Ximal> wow... talk about your lag..
[18:38] <zionpsyfer> dmsuperman: nice, cheers.  Thanks unop_.
[18:38] <jarred> am i registered now?
[18:38] <jarred> !register jarred
[18:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register jarred - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:38] <nickrud> Auctionedllama I'm running out of ideas ...
[18:38] <PurpZeY> techsta: How did you get your card configured?
[18:38] <jarred> !nick
[18:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:38] <theuser1> using g4l ghost for linux to make image file backup for my ext3 partition having the ubuntu os, error message i get is  unable to read from image block 0  ,       g4l uses   partiimage   and that uses  the dd comand i   think.....              any help?
[18:38] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: D:
[18:39] <unop__> nickrud, it depends on how you use exec and the special characters \+ and \; to find ..
[18:39] <Some_Person> Back in an older Ubuntu release, I replaced the GNOME foot in nautilus with an ubuntu logo, but I cant find the site I got it from. Does anyone here know? On the one I used, the circles faded out and faded in, instead of the whole thing rotating like on other ones I've seen.
[18:39] <unop__> nickrud, this would be equivalent to using xargs.  find /path -iname "desktop.ini" -exec rm '{}' \+
[18:39] <erUSUL> theuser1: have you tried partimage directly??
[18:39] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Could you and/or anyone else look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63760/ for my output of:    sudo lshw -C network
[18:39] <jarred> erUSUL im stilling having trouble registering
[18:39] <jarred> it wont let me register
[18:39] <theuser1> erUSUL no. i dont know how to use it
[18:39] <Ximal> purpzey did you get my last question ? to boot to a specific resolution ?
[18:39] <techsta> its not .. its running vmware virt. graphics adapater .. im thinking of installing to hdd but need todo more research on graphics and compatability before i completely blow out windoze
[18:40] <jarred> !register jarred
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register jarred - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:40] <Ximal> or to change to a specific resolution from the TTY1 once booted
[18:40] <Ximal> ?
[18:40] <nickrud> unop_ hm, I've used {} \; often, don't know the diff between that and \+ . Time for some reading I guess
[18:40] <hever> Hi. At the boot my notebook hangs nearly 20seconds at "Setting up Alsa card 1..." (It has already done a setting up Alsa card 0 ... I rerun alsaconf but this changed nothing....
[18:40] <theuser1> erUSUL how to use partimage?
[18:40] <unop__> nickrud, not '{}' - that's always needed, the difference is between \; and \+
[18:40] <PurpZeY> Ximal: The only way I know of to change res is edit xorg...But I am hardly an expert. You'd have to stop x change it and restart it...I imagine there's a better way.
[18:41] <nickrud> unop_ yes, I gathered that ;)
[18:41] <erUSUL> theuser1: afaics (web page) it has a curses interface...
[18:41] <PurpZeY> techsta: How did you get that card configured, it is causing me a lot of grief?
[18:41] <erUSUL> jarred: /msg Nickerv register «yourpassword»
[18:41] <theuser1> erUSUL where
[18:41]  * nickrud was too lazy to type the {} again
[18:41] <jarred>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[18:41] <theuser1> erUSUL can dd make images of partitions/
[18:42] <Ximal> oh.. how do I stop x ? and then start it in a specific resolution ? or just stop x /
[18:42] <nickrud> Auctionedllama I'm gonna let my mind percolate on that in the background. Anyway, in a week you won't have to worry about it :)
[18:42] <erUSUL> theuser1: yes it will an exact copy (including unused space)
[18:42] <Auctionedllama> nickrud: ok, I found a guide, I'll get back to you in 10 or so
[18:42] <erUSUL> theuser1: http://www.partimage.org/Screenshots
[18:43] <theuser1> erUSUL how to exclude unused space?
[18:43] <magic_ninja> how do i get my default gateway
[18:43] <magic_ninja> i mean, the address of it
[18:43] <erUSUL> theuser1: using partimage?
[18:43] <jarred> is there a difference between compiling a nvidia driver with the driver install thing instead of using envy or restricted-driver-manager
[18:44] <erUSUL> jarred: not much
[18:44] <jarred> how can i edit the /etc/sudoers file so it would not make it force me to have a password
[18:44] <jarred> i did it on slackware
[18:45] <jarred> but it wont worko n ubuntu
[18:45] <jarred> and i didnt need to use visudo
[18:45] <jarred> i just used kwrite
[18:45] <jarred> or gedit
[18:45] <FloodBot2> jarred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Wyvern|> Does anyone know if Hardy Heron will support the newest (4th gen) Macbook Pros?
[18:45] <jarred> it probaly will
[18:45] <PurpZeY> !hardy | Wyvern|
[18:45] <ubotu> Wyvern|: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:45] <tarvid> is there a way to identify the DVD+RW drive I have?
[18:46] <theuser1> erUSUL ya. partimage and dd?
[18:46] <murlidhar>  i have mounted the alternate cd iso file to /home/murlidhar/Desktop/iso
[18:46] <murlidhar> now what?
[18:46] <unop__> tarvid, lshw and lshal should help
[18:46] <erUSUL> theuser1: no just partimage ig you want to make a partition image is the right tool afaics
[18:46] <tarvid> unop, thanks
[18:47] <erUSUL> theuser1: the partition has to be umaounted so you may have to do the image from a liveCD
[18:47] <erUSUL> theuser1: launch partimage and follow on screen instructions
[18:47] <Ashfire908> does anyone know of a general (general in what is tests, like processing speed) benchmark program (for ubuntu/linux)?
[18:47] <theuser1> erUSUL ok, i hope it will exclude freespace
[18:48] <erUSUL> theuser1: http://www.partimage.org/Partimage-manual_Usage
[18:48] <theuser1> erUSUL in the screen shot. thats the interface i get in g4l.
[18:48] <theuser1> erUSUL same isue
[18:48] <Zelta> what's the easiest/best program to write .isos to CDs in ubuntu?
[18:48] <no7up4u2> im having issues getting libssl-dev anyone else having this issue?
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Zelta, right cklick the iso and write to disk
[18:48] <erUSUL> Zelta: right click on the iso choose burn to disk
[18:48] <Ashfire908> Zelta, K3b
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> morning erUSUL
[18:49] <Ashfire908> Zelta, well k3b for everything, if you just need iso do what they said
[18:49] <gtt> what's the recommended way of adding a command to mount my sshfs to my start up?
[18:49] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: evening here ;) but morning to you
[18:49] <Zelta> okay
[18:49] <Zelta> also, how can I mount .cue/.bin images on a virtual disk?
[18:49] <nickrud> unop ok, the limitation on \+ is the length of the command line, correct?
[18:50] <erUSUL> theuser1: something out of normal on your disk setup? are you usiong raid or lvm or something???
[18:50] <erUSUL> theuser1: is the partition mounted or in use??
[18:50] <theuser1> erUSUL no . i dont know what it is
[18:50] <theuser1> erUSUL g4l uses a cd and boot
[18:50] <erUSUL> !iso | Zelta
[18:50] <ubotu> Zelta: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:50] <nickrud> morning Jack_Sparrow
[18:50] <theuser1> erUSUL i used it before. worked good. until i install hardy beta
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, morning
[18:51] <theuser1> erUSUL may be my partiimage is old version?
[18:51] <Zelta> erUSUL: I'm not talking about .iso files.... I'm talking about .cue/.bin
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL, will that work on bin/cue as well?
[18:51] <erUSUL> theuser1: may be but nor know for sure...
[18:51] <unop> nickrud, sure, ARG_MAX does influence \+ .. but find will compile the command again if the number of files in + exceeds ARG_MAX .. so you generally never run into "argument list too long"
[18:51] <nickrud> unop ok, thanks. Reasonable that some geek found that annoying and built in a workaround ;)
[18:52] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: i used the factoid for the image convresion tools part...
[18:52] <Zelta> And I don't want to convert the .cue/.bin files to an .iso because the files need to be a raw duplicate of the CD
[18:52] <unop> nickrud, it's worth mentioning this is only guaranteed in GNU's find - other finds on other systems behave different
[18:52] <erUSUL> Zelta: for mounting you have to convert the bin to iso first or use something like acetone iso
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL, agreed.. just curious about how you could do it without converting. it is a basic image file
[18:52] <Zelta> yeah, but I don't want to convert it
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Zelta, you may not have any choice
[18:53] <theuser1> erUSUL how can i be sure its not a hardisk fault?
[18:53] <nickrud> Zelta convert a copy, maybe?
[18:53] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: i think there are fuse "filesystems" plugins that do just that (acetone iso is a gui)
[18:53] <mrpockets> How do I make it so that CDs and external HDDs and shit that I moun't DONT show up on my desktop
[18:53] <Alives> how can i get iptables to run iptables-restore on boot?  Also, I have to keep echo "1" > ip_forward on boot as well.. how can I make that permanent?
[18:54] <rajiv_nair> mrpockets: open gconf-editor
[18:54] <erUSUL> theuser1: verify the kernel logs of the liveCD ???
[18:54] <rajiv_nair> should be in applications->system tools
[18:54] <theuser1> erUSUL how
[18:54] <rajiv_nair> if it aint there edit menus and enable it
[18:54] <erUSUL> Alives: make a "firewall" script and add it to startup
[18:54] <edward_> hi. i'm having problem with a advent laptop. The display works when running from live cd or in recovery mode, but not when i run ubuntu (7.10) from the HD. Bizarrely if I plug a cable into the video output socket the display does work. Any ideas?
[18:54] <rajiv_nair> mrpockets: then go to apps->nautilus->desktop
[18:54] <erUSUL> theuser1: less /var/log/messages
[18:54] <rajiv_nair> and uncheck everything you dont need
[18:54] <nickrud> mrpockets gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[18:55] <mrpockets> thanks guys
[18:55] <Alives> erUSUL: cool thanks...
[18:55] <zoobox> how the heck do the keyboard-handling work in ubuntu? (or should I say X?)
[18:55] <mrpockets> man, you guys are like Gods.
[18:55] <rajiv_nair> mrpockets: just people here
[18:55] <nickrud> zoobox several different ways ;)
[18:55] <melly1979> hello, can anyone see me
[18:56] <mrpockets> melly1979, yes.
[18:56] <erUSUL> Alives: sudo nano /etc/init.d/myfirewall (writte script with everything needed)  then sudo update-rc.d myfirewall defaults (after chmod +x it)
[18:56] <melly1979> I am melissa from georgia, i need some support
[18:56] <nickrud> zoobox xkb is the basic keyboard definition, and there are many ways to override that. Depends on your goal
[18:56] <erUSUL> !ask | melly1979
[18:56] <ubotu> melly1979: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:56] <mnemo> is there some apt-get or aptitude command that I can run do see a list of all the things that I have been running "apt-get install XYZ" on???
[18:56] <SeaPhor> how do i scan for available wireless networks?
[18:56] <mrpockets> So I lock my compouter at night. When ever i go to log back on in the morning everythigns like 50% darker, and frozen, and stays like that for about 10 minutes before it goes back to normal
[18:56] <erUSUL> SeaPhor: sudo iwlist <iface> scan
[18:56] <mrpockets> any idea how to fix this?
[18:56] <murlidhar> Seveas, could u come to #ubuntu+1 for a moment please
[18:56] <melly1979> is this a chat room  for obese people
[18:57] <murlidhar> no
[18:57] <melly1979> what is   it then
[18:57] <zoobox> even though I have this window in focus (Pidgin irc) it title row is brown so it is the program that should take my presses (and I am writing here) still the program pacman listen to the keypressed allso  (quite bad game anyway but), I move pacman with my arrows while I write here...
[18:57] <murlidhar> for ppl who use linux distro called ubuntu
[18:57] <l23twire> l33twire.net supports ubuntu :P i made all under ubuntu
[18:57] <crazytalk> i want to reinstall ubuntu but can i keep my sep partition /home or will the problems i have be carried in over in it?
[18:57] <melly1979> i typed in obesity support and this chat room  was the firdst on the list
[18:57] <linkmaster03> what the heck
[18:58] <melly1979> do you  understand what i am saying
[18:58] <linkmaster03> ubuntu is an operating system
[18:58]  * erUSUL smells troll
[18:58] <melly1979> operating systems need there own chat rooms ?
[18:58] <zoobox> nickrud: hmm eheh.. yeah I guess there are mutliple of things that do the keyboard (for back compatibilty etc) but shouldnt the keyboard belong to the open application? (and apps not the 'acgive' one should not be able to listen to keypresses?)
[18:58] <nickrud> melly1979 nope, this is a support channel for the ubuntu operating system
[18:58] <linkmaster03> well a linux distro
[18:58]  * erUSUL do not feed the troll
[18:58]  * linkmaster03 ok
[18:58] <linkmaster03> xD
[18:58]  * rajiv_nair thinks everyone is wasting time
[18:58] <crazytalk> i want to reinstall ubuntu but can i keep my sep partition /home or will the problems i have be carried in over in it?
[18:59] <melly1979> ubuntu, what is that
[18:59] <melly1979> saomething hackers use
[18:59] <rajiv_nair> yes
[18:59] <linkmaster03> yes
[18:59] <mrpockets> osrly
[18:59] <linkmaster03> yes
[18:59] <crazytalk> yes
[18:59] <rajiv_nair> something that TRUE hackers use
[18:59] <melly1979> wow,  im   like,  wow
[18:59] <crazytalk> lol
[18:59]  * l23twire i still think ubuntu has the best web dev tools i mean look at l33twire.net that shit looks pimped put
[18:59] <l23twire> pit*
[18:59] <murlidhar> melly1979, hackers aren't bad unless they harm somebody
[18:59] <l23twire> out*
[18:59] <melly1979> i have h\always had a  ark passion to be a  hacker
[18:59] <linkmaster03> dumb hackers use linux
[18:59] <linkmaster03> real hackers use ubuntu
[18:59] <linkmaster03> xD
[18:59] <erUSUL> !ot
[18:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:59] <mrpockets> LOL
[18:59] <melly1979> i am fully aware what a  hacker is, its like a  fantasy  of mine
[18:59] <mrpockets> no
[18:59] <nickrud> !offtopic |
[18:59] <ubotu> : please see above
[18:59] <njk> hi all
[18:59] <l23twire> REAL HACKING USE BACKTRACK
[18:59] <rajiv_nair> !hacker
[18:59] <ubotu> A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer  -- crackers on the other hand break systems!
[19:00] <crazytalk> i want to reinstall ubuntu but can i keep my sep partition /home or will the problems i have be carried in over in it?
[19:00] <l23twire> HACKERS*
[19:00] <njk> i recently started using ubuntu
[19:00] <monkeybritches> crazytalk: If you can, back up /home to an external device, and when you reinstall, put /home on a separate partition
[19:00] <zoobox> *'active' I mean
[19:00] <melly1979> wow, this i slike watching a  movie
[19:00] <nickrud> !offtopic | l23twire melly1979
[19:00] <ubotu> l23twire melly1979: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:00] <njk> my problem is the bug
[19:00] <crazytalk> monkeybritches: /home is already a sep partition than /
[19:00] <njk> hdd one
[19:00] <njk> Load_Cycle_Count
[19:00] <melly1979> does ubuntu have a  website
[19:00] <njk> :(
[19:00] <crazytalk> my windows have no edges :(
[19:00] <linkmaster03> www.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <monkeybritches> Then when you reinstall, don't hose the current /home partition and you can continue to use it
[19:01] <njk> hello rajiv
[19:01] <crazytalk> monkeybritches: hose = lose?
[19:01] <rajiv_nair> hello
[19:01] <monkeybritches> Yes
[19:01] <SeaPhor> how do i stop - restart wlan0?
[19:01] <geu> Hi is there a config file that tells the ubuntu 8.04 installer where to look for the installation data? I need to change that from cdrom to sdb1
[19:01] <monkeybritches> Use manual partition
[19:01] <nitin> can you please help me
[19:01] <zoobox> Can I somehow block other programs from listen to the keyboard, while I write here?
[19:01] <nickrud> !ask | nitin
[19:01] <ubotu> nitin: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:01] <nitin> i just need a small advice
[19:01] <crazytalk> monkeybritches: i don't understand
[19:02] <crazytalk> monkeybritches: can i just format / and reinstall and once i use the same username, /home will still be /home?
[19:02] <nitin> lol ubotu that was the same rule in #gamedev
[19:02] <erUSUL> SeaPhor: dpends on what you are using to manage the conection
[19:02] <rajiv_nair> !ubotu | nitin
[19:02] <ubotu> nitin: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:02] <nickrud> zoobox what exactly is listening, only the window manager other than the focused app should be having active keys
[19:02] <monkeybritches> Yes
[19:02] <luke_> hi there i had a quick question about a linux software to manage downloaded/ripped movies
[19:02] <nitin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4210187
[19:03] <nitin> check the post by njk
[19:03] <Paddie> Is there a way to pre-download a package and all of its dependencies on another machine and take them to the machine with ubuntu and install?
[19:03] <zoobox> can a program 'get ownership' of the keyboad while I enter a password for example, or it is impossible in linux to block all other programs I have running in the background from sniffing what I write?
[19:03] <SeaPhor> erUSUL,  Network Monitor 2.12.1
[19:03] <tomd123> ﻿just to clear up my understanding, does the alternate cd have a minimal install, such that you can install only the command line interface, or is that just the server edition?
[19:03] <crazytalk> monkeybritches: ty dude
[19:03] <luis_> ola
[19:03] <Seveas> Paddie, synaptic can create download scripts
[19:03] <monkeybritches> np
[19:03] <nitin> sorry not this one
[19:03] <nitin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591503&page=78
[19:03] <nitin> thats my problem
[19:03] <nitin> :(
[19:03] <erUSUL> SeaPhor: so no network manager?? sudo ifup <iface> or sudo ifdown <iface>
[19:04] <erUSUL> Paddie: apt-zip ???
[19:04] <nitin> dude there is a netapplet
[19:04] <zoobox> nickrud: try install PacMan (it is in Add/Remove program...) it listen to my arrows while I write here....
[19:04] <nitin> in ubuntu that rocks
[19:04] <erUSUL> !minimal | tomd123
[19:04] <ubotu> tomd123: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:04] <nitin> anyone plz help
[19:04] <mnemo> i know "dpkg -l" can list all installed packages, but how can I tell which packages I did "sudo apt-get install XYZ" on and which ones were pre-installed with my ubuntu?
[19:04] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63763/
[19:04] <nickrud> Paddie apt-zip does that, but there's a bug. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-zip/+bug/203994 for the workaround
[19:05] <Paddie> Seveas: How about repositories update? (sudo aptitude update)
[19:05] <nickrud> zoobox hm, file a bug against pacman it shouldn't do that
[19:05] <Seveas> Paddie, just copy over /var/lib/apt/lists
[19:05] <zoobox> nickrud: yeah only window manager and the focused application should be able to listen to the keyboard, but it isn't so...  I thinkg pacman shouldn't be able to listen to it while it is not in focus, even if its programmer want to.... :/
[19:06] <Syntex_> i need help in IRC
[19:06] <Syntex_> :S
[19:06] <Paddie> Seveas: but where do I take'em?
[19:06] <zoobox> nickrud: I don't think pacman is actively maintained... it looks verry old.
[19:06] <melly1979> what  exactly are some of the good things   hackers  can  do ?
[19:06] <matt444> how do I give someone permission to view my files on the network?
[19:06] <matt444> my shared files
[19:06] <nickrud> zoobox probably has bit rot.
[19:06] <murlidhar> nitin, i am sorry i can't help u since it is a bit complicated
[19:06] <erUSUL> !ot | melly1979
[19:06] <ubotu> melly1979: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:06] <zoobox> nickrud:  :-D
[19:06] <nitin> complicated like?
[19:07] <melly1979> someone   whisper  me
[19:07] <melly1979> i  want  to know   of some of the  examples of hackering
[19:07] <Seveas> melly1979, you've been warned at least twice now. No offtopic talk in here. Last warning
[19:07] <nickrud> melly1979 type    /j #ubuntu-offtopic   that's the place to ask that question
[19:07] <melly1979> off topic talk?
[19:08] <melly1979> seveas, im  confused
[19:08] <nickrud> melly1979 this channel is exclusively support questions, not general chat
[19:08] <ffm> What's the default password for mysql in ubuntu?
[19:08] <nitin> should i get the hdd of my laptop replaced?
[19:08] <nitin> nothing
[19:08] <Seveas> ffm, username root, no password
[19:08] <lordleemo> melly1979: you cant even speak english correctly ha ha get a life loser
[19:09] <ffm> !coc | loesh
[19:09] <ubotu> loesh: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[19:09] <murlidhar> nitin, could u join #linux
[19:09] <nitin> ok
[19:09] <ffm> !coc | lordleemo
[19:09] <ubotu> lordleemo: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[19:09] <ffm> loesh: I apologize, wrong nick.
[19:09] <Paddie> nickrud: doesn't the page say that the bug was fixed?
[19:09] <erUSUL> ffm: he left
[19:09] <dek> I have installed KDE4 and it is now my default WM, but I want KDE3 to be default. How do I change it?
[19:09] <clincks> Why wollowing command useradd -c "mysql user" -b /home/mysql -g group_mysql -s /bin/bash -u 9000 mysql don't create  /home/mysql automaticly ?
[19:10] <SeaPhor> Could anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63760/ for my output of:    sudo lshw -C network  and tell me whats wrong? or help, i feel so close to finally having this work!
[19:10] <ffm> erUSUL: Ah. I told my client to hide j/p in this channel.
[19:10] <nickrud> Paddie nope, still a bug.
[19:10] <Seveas> clincks, errr... creating a user named mysql is a bad bad idea. That username is reserved for the mysql server packages
[19:10] <luke_> hi there is there  a movie management software for linux?
[19:10] <erUSUL> ffm: mine too but i use tab completion if it does not complete it is gone ;P
[19:10] <Paddie> nickrud: oh, it tells about the patch...ok
[19:11] <clincks> Seveas, this will be the user that run mysql later on . Bad idea ?
[19:11] <Seveas> clincks, and 'man useradd', you need -m or -M (forgot which). Or rather you should use adduser instead of useradd
[19:11] <Paddie> Seveas: where do I take the lists to copy over /var/lib/apt/lists?
[19:11] <Seveas> clincks, yes. the package will try to create that user.
[19:11] <nickrud> Paddie yup, I filed that one (one of the very few that I actually could offer a fix :)
[19:11] <Seveas> Paddie, /var/lib/apt/lists on another machine
[19:11] <Seveas> hmm, miniature netsplit :)
[19:12] <clincks> ok, thanks
[19:12] <Paddie> Seveas: does "another machine" have to be Ubuntu?
[19:12] <Seveas> Paddie, yes
[19:12] <ffm> Seveas: That's strange,
[19:12] <millertime_018> will someone help me? im having a problem with a game, sauerbraten
[19:12] <millertime_018> i cant get it to start
[19:12] <Finnish> How can I stretch a layer in GIMP?
[19:12] <ffm> !dontask | millertime_018
[19:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:12] <Paddie> Seveas: Isn't there another way? Cause another machine is Windows XP :(
[19:12] <rajiv_nair> millertime_018: which gane?
[19:12] <Finnish> Like rightwards
[19:12] <rajiv_nair> game*
[19:12] <ffm> millertime_018: Don't ask to ask, just say your question.
[19:13] <Seveas> Paddie, hook the machine up to the internet and run apt-get update :)
[19:13] <matt444> what package do i install to get NFS shares?
[19:13] <millertime_018> sauerbraten
[19:13] <|Debian|> Evening.
[19:13] <unop_> matt444, nfs is provided by the kernel
[19:13] <Seveas> matt444, nfs-kernel-server if you want to create an nfs share, mount (installed by default) if you want to mount one
[19:14] <edward_> Finnish: layer/scale layer
[19:14] <millertime_018> when i click it the screen goes black like the game is about to start
[19:14] <Seveas> millertime_018, disable compiz and try again
[19:14] <nickrud> Finnish or layer->boundary size
[19:14] <millertime_018> oh. ok
[19:14] <matt444> unop_:  when i try to share a folder, I do NOT get NFS as an option.  Only SMB.
[19:14] <nitin> murlidhar but y is this problem only persistent in ubuntu?
[19:14] <millertime_018> no it still didnt work
[19:14] <unop_> matt444, see what seveas just said - perhaps that helps
[19:15] <rajiv_nair> millertime_018: run game from terminal and see what it says
[19:15] <Paddie> Seveas: I can't, that's the problem
[19:15] <Finnish> Sorry, I explained it wrong. I mean like stretching the top right, while the floor stays still
[19:16] <mkultras> yeah you need to launch something in terminal so u can see the error output if you have problems
[19:16] <Ximal>  I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org and selected all resolutions and it screwed up the xserver to where I can't boot into a visual gui now ... Even when rebooting X server through uubuntu's ctrl-alt-BackSpace command.. So is there another way to start linux up through it's command line so that ALL things including xserver will boot using 1 resoltuion I set ? This is my last try and if I can't make it work I will loose all of m
[19:16] <murlidhar> nitin, i am not sure i am a noobie .btw is it only in ubuntu?
[19:16] <millertime_018> how do i run the game from the terminal?
[19:16] <rajiv_nair> just type in game name into terminal
[19:16] <mkultras> you type the name in
[19:16] <Ximal> And by command line I mean at boot when u press C or E ... not after starting the kernel up by selecting the version of Ubuntu u want to boot..
[19:16] <nitin> yeah because earlier i was using opensuse and had no problems
[19:16] <rajiv_nair> should work 90% of the time (if the games binary's name is the same i.e)
[19:17] <nitin> but i just love ubuntu now
[19:17] <mkultras> the game might not be in your $PATH so you might need to cd into the directory the game is in
[19:17] <nitin> its too cool
[19:17] <nitin> :)
[19:17] <Orbixx> How do I get a nice Widget on Ubuntu?
[19:17] <ffm> Orbixx: What do you mean?
[19:17] <Finnish> It's Perspective-tool!
[19:17] <murlidhar> nitin, also it is better if u ask ur question rather than giving a link to visit
[19:17] <Orbixx> Just, a widget.
[19:17] <matt444> What is the "address"  for NFS shares?
[19:17] <Orbixx> I've seen other desktops with widgets.
[19:17] <scarygary> Does anyone know if there's a patch available for the native rt2870(D-link DWA-140) driver to make it compile in hardy?
[19:17] <nitin> ok
[19:17] <nitin> I got this output and the start_stop_count was increasing rapidly. So, I applied hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda and now its under control. But what about the
[19:17] <Seveas> Orbixx, install the screenlets package
[19:17] <nitin> "SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1" thing? I mean thefailures? The laptop is under warranty, so should I opt for a new HDD?.Also, will this bug get removed in 8.04? I mean I recently shifted fromopensuse to ubuntu and love this distro and expect this bug to beremoved
[19:18] <ffm> Orbixx: Are you using GNOME or KDE?
[19:18] <Orbixx> ffm: Gnome.
[19:18] <Alp`> Orbixx: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/17/os-x-like-widgets-with-screenlets-on-ubuntu-3rd-update/
[19:18] <recon> I'm trying to install some fonts, but when I type fons:// into Nautilus, I am told 'Nautilus cannot handle fonts: locations.
[19:19] <Wolvez> does anybody knows well tomcat ?
[19:19] <millertime_018> ok i did, it gave some error reports in the terminal do you want those?
[19:19] <murlidhar> nitin, since the ubuntu hardy is coming there are a lot of developers that aren't present since they are working hard in getting hardy released in time
[19:19] <ffm> Orbixx: Well, you can add screenlets.
[19:19] <Alp`> recon: ubuntu 8?
[19:19] <rajiv_nair> millertime_018: yes
[19:19] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to make bnep0 automatically get an IP (the other bluetooth device is a DHCP server) when created?
[19:19] <recon> Alp`: yeah.
[19:19] <recon> Alp`: known bug?
[19:19] <millertime_018> init: gl
[19:19] <millertime_018> Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 x86/MMX/SSE2 (Tungsten Graphics, Inc)
[19:19] <millertime_018> Driver: 1.4 Mesa 7.0.1
[19:19] <millertime_018> WARNING: Using floating point vertexes. (use "/floatvtx 0" to disable)
[19:19] <millertime_018> Rendering using the OpenGL 1.5 assembly shader path.
[19:19] <FloodBot2> millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <millertime_018> WARNING: No occlusion query support! (large maps may be SLOW)
[19:19] <Alp`> recon: it's not possible in ubuntu 8
[19:19] <recon> Alp`: ah. just copy 'em to /usr/share/fonts, then, i guess.
[19:19] <millertime_018> oh sorry
[19:19] <murlidhar> nitin, it will be more better if ask these question after the release since they will be present in the channel
[19:20] <Alp`> recon: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/04/17/how-to-install-fonts-in-ubuntu-804/
[19:20] <Alp`> :D
[19:20] <rajiv_nair> !patebin | millertime_018
[19:20] <nitin> now i just heard a click on my pc
[19:20] <nitin> just now
[19:20] <rajiv_nair> !pastebin | millertime_018
[19:20] <nitin> what could that be?
[19:20] <nitin> HDD?
[19:20] <Alp`> and no, it's not my website ;)
[19:20] <free1> how do I find out what my root password is? I don't think I ever set it.  I know my sudo password.  Basically, I'm trying to go system->admin->language support
[19:20] <matt444> how do I do this!!!  nfs://hostname?
[19:20] <matt444> what is hostname?
[19:20] <alarmo> Hey guys, is there anyway to tell XOrg to try a different resolution in this new 8.04 auto-config stuff ?
[19:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:20] <millertime_018> http://pastebin.ca/989765 this is where its at
[19:20] <ubotu> millertime_018: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:21] <free1> ubotu: Ellenas?
[19:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ellenas? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:21] <unop_> !root | free1
[19:21] <ubotu> free1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:21] <alarmo> I mean, it only gives me 1024x768@75Hz... and I'd like it to accept my good old 1152x864@75..
[19:21] <nitin> ok are all of u working on ugly fix?
[19:22] <unop_> nitin, no
[19:22] <free1> ubotu: so how come it won't give me access with my sudo password
[19:22] <rajiv_nair> !ubotu | free1
[19:22] <ubotu> free1: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:22] <justme> hello all .. can someone help me with a driver i installed on ubuntu 7.10 .. I installed a ati drive from ati.com and now the os will not boot
[19:22] <alarmo> free1, what do you mean "won't give me access with my sudo password" ?
[19:22] <nitin> unop_ so you are not facing problems with hdd
[19:22] <nitin> ?
[19:22] <chazco> Is it still possible to use /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:22] <rajiv_nair> justme: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:22] <chazco> on Gusty
[19:22] <unop_> free1, perhaps your user is not memeber of the admin group
[19:22] <rajiv_nair> select radeon as the device driver
[19:22] <unop_> nitin, no
[19:22] <nitin> hmm
[19:22] <nitin> ok
[19:23] <free1> alarmo: it tells me not granted root privileges
[19:23] <rajiv_nair> rest is self explanatory(if you dont know, just press enter)
[19:23] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> where can i go for ubuntu help
[19:23] <free1> unop_: it's my lappy
[19:23] <nitin> and what does an error in smart self test conclude?
[19:23] <rajiv_nair> justme: that should get you to the GUI i guess
[19:23] <odder> Warriorz-Ubuntu: ask here
[19:23] <nitin> is the drive damaged?
[19:23] <murlidhar> nitin, did u check the link that has been given  , the latest post show some positive news
[19:23] <alarmo> free1, yeah, but when does it give you that error ? how are you using it ?
[19:23] <justme> i do not have access to the pc other than using the shell ..
[19:23] <nitin> one sec lemme check
[19:23] <unop_> what is the exact error message?   also what does this command return?   id; groups    (please use a !pastebin, don't paste in here)
[19:23] <murlidhar> Nith, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591503&page=78
[19:24] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> Im stuck at resizing partion at 0% its been like that for the past hour or so
[19:24] <free1> alarmo:  ok, fixed it.
[19:24] <alarmo> Gee.. how can I configure my video settings with this new XOrg on Hardy, huh ?
[19:24] <rajiv_nair> justme: then follow the instructions given here -> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[19:24] <free1> alarmo:  but if I want to change the language of gnome?
[19:24] <alarmo> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only gives me keyboard stuff...
[19:24] <justme> thanks
[19:24] <odder> !hardy | alarmo
[19:24] <ubotu> alarmo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:24] <free1> alarmo: would that be through language support?
[19:24] <millertime_018> rajiv_nair: did you look?
[19:24] <rajiv_nair> yes
[19:25] <alarmo> odder, is it a bug ? It doesn't look like one...
[19:25] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> Im stuck at resizing partion at 0% its been like that for the past hour or so. any 1 have any ideas why?
[19:25] <rajiv_nair> nothing useful as far as i see it
[19:25] <rajiv_nair> must be a bug in the game
[19:25] <rajiv_nair> did you try googling for it?
[19:25] <alarmo> odder, it is just that they changed for a new Xorg, as far as I know... and it does most thing automagically... unfortunately the xorg automagically gets it wrong :)
[19:25] <millertime_018> alright ill do that too
[19:25] <alarmo> free1, I wouldn't know, sorry. I don't use Gnome
[19:25] <free1> alarmo: I heard that ;)
[19:26] <nitin> Does anybodies HDD click?
[19:26] <free1> alarmo: but even with kde, how does one change the language of the gui
[19:26] <free1> ?
[19:26] <Teco> Buenas
[19:26] <nitin> I mean in terms of sound
[19:26] <geu> hi is there any way to tell the ubuntu installer not to look at cdrom but at /dev/sdb for the installation files?
[19:26] <Ashfire908> is there a way to disable a iptables rule (without deleting it)?
[19:26] <alarmo> oh, odder, nevermind. Now I see you pointed me to other channel, sorry.
[19:26] <alarmo> free1, usually, just setting the locale would do, I guess...
[19:26] <nitin> Mine is making a clicking noice
[19:26] <nitin> :(
[19:26] <alarmo> free1, I use Xfce, and, anyways, I stick to english here...
[19:26] <nitin> just now it did
[19:26] <unop_> geu, what is /dev/sdb in this instance, a partition on the harddrive?
[19:27] <nitin> should or shouldnt i use ubuntu as of now?
[19:27] <murlidhar> nitin, did u see the last post
[19:27] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> no 1 can awnser me?
[19:27] <nitin> yeah i saw that
[19:27] <unop_> !patience | Warriorz-Ubuntu
[19:27] <ubotu> Warriorz-Ubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:27] <|Debian|> lulz
[19:27] <nitin> that means the bug is solved for normal instances but not for resume and sleep
[19:28] <Parsec300> Warriorz-Ubuntu, what did you do?
[19:28] <odder> free1: there's an option in gnome to change your sys language
[19:28] <doctorow> I have an SD card (not locked) that I use with a reader that I plug into my computer's USB port. Suddenly, the filesystem is always mounted as read-only. I've tried rebooting, to no avail. How do I manually mount the disk (/dev/sdb1) as read-write?
[19:28] <geu> unop_ yes it should actually be sdb1 it is a partition on a hardrive with a grub bootloader that loads the vmlinuz file I copied there from an ubuntu install iso ( I copied the rest of the data too)
[19:28] <free1> odder: hook me up, please
[19:28] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> nothing i used the guided setup for part and its been stuck at 0% for over an hour now
[19:29] <nitin> damn these 6 days :(
[19:29] <unop_> geu, i dont think that is possible no, contents in the CD-Rom installer are quite different
[19:29] <alarmo> nitin, six days to hardy ? :P
[19:29] <geu> unop_ the system just refuses to get the rest of the data from /sdb1 instead of /cdrom
[19:29] <nitin> yeah
[19:29] <alarmo> nitin, beta is pretty stable, at least on my machines... I have a desktop and a notebook on it right now
[19:29] <|Debian|> wow.
[19:29] <unop_> geu, it's only natural - are you trying to upgrade your system?
[19:29] <|Debian|> i'm still using 6.10
[19:29] <|Debian|> lol
[19:30] <alarmo> |Debian|, hehehe
[19:30] <|Debian|> 6.10 PPC
[19:30] <|Debian|> FTW !!!
[19:30] <|Debian|> love it. =D
[19:30] <ompaul> !enter | |Debian|
[19:30] <ubotu> |Debian|: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:30] <free1> odder: would you happen to know the location of the sys lang options?
[19:30] <Parsec300> Warriorz-Ubuntu, don't know. Hope it didn't mess up your partition table already.
[19:30] <alarmo> |Debian|, I really liked this 8.04 beta thingy... best ubuntu I ever used... not that I used many, though...
[19:30] <nitin> also one more question
[19:30] <odder> free1: go to system --> preferences --> language support
[19:30] <nitin> can i install this on my ps3?
[19:30] <|Debian|> alarmo, does it support PPC ?
[19:30] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> wait a minute i just insta went to 100%
[19:30] <alarmo> |Debian|, don't know :(
[19:31] <geu> unop_ I have 2 harddrives on my pc sda and sdb I want to install ubuntu on sda so I installed grub and the iso files on sdb
[19:31] <|Debian|> lame
[19:31] <odder> free1: sorry for the lag in answering, my supper almost burned :>
[19:31] <|Debian|> PPC owns Intel :P
[19:31] <Parsec300> Warriorz-Ubuntu, do you have BIOS virus protection set to ON?
[19:31] <ompaul> !offtopic | |Debian|
[19:31] <free1> odder: on gutsy it's sys-admin-lang support
[19:31] <ubotu> |Debian|: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:31] <Warriorz-Ubuntu> i dont think so
[19:31] <free1> odder: would I need to reboot
[19:31] <alarmo> |Debian|, yeah, well... I can't even think on where to buy a PPC machine here on Brasil, so I can't discuss that :P
[19:31] <|Debian|> hahah
[19:31] <|Debian|> ebay ?
[19:31] <Seveas> |Debian|, cut the offtopic talk.
[19:31] <Noname_> y windows phi i'm new to 8.04 and I went to share a folder on my windows partition and I got this error "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/disk/Documents and Settings/home/My Documents as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.
[19:31] <Noname_> 	Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = False"
[19:31] <Noname_> 	to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this." Does anyone know the location of this file and also if I should do what the message suggests
[19:32] <XTerminator24> Any suggestions for a good IRC application for UBuntu?
[19:32] <odder> free1: you'll definitely need to restart your gnome session
[19:32] <free1> alarmo: Brasil, Forteleza?
[19:32] <Seveas> XTerminator24, irssi, xchat
[19:32] <rajiv_nair> Konversation
[19:32] <linkmaster03> mIRC on Wine, xchat
[19:32] <|Debian|> XTerminator24, bitchX
[19:32] <XTerminator24> OK.. I'm using xChat now
[19:32] <free1> odder:  ok, I'll do that.  Thank you!
[19:32] <odder> free1: you're welcome :)
[19:32] <|Debian|> bitchx is text based, lovely =)
[19:32] <alarmo> free1, Rio de Janeiro
[19:33] <Seveas> Noname_, it could be a good idea, the file is in /etc/samba/
[19:33] <Noname_> thanks
[19:33] <free1> alarmo: cool.
[19:34] <Dowah> Having a serious problem. Disk boot failure. Twice in one month. formatted disks two weeks ago., I have 2 hard drives. Both couldn't go bad all at once. Seems like this happens after I do an automatic Update of the system .. Any Help For this???
[19:34] <nitin> bye all
[19:35] <cool> i have installed syslinux on Flash drive & copied all Ubuntu files on it from iso. But when i boot through it. i get a "boot: " promt. what is missing here?
[19:35] <usantu> soap cast not connecting. can anybody help ???
[19:36] <Dowah> I don't want to return to WIndows does anyone know what might be causing this?
[19:37] <Sarthor^^> Hello, i want to configure the server as pppoe server, where can i found the manual for this?? i am using ubuntu,
[19:37] <will> Dowah: so Windows still works then? Ruling out drive failure?
[19:37] <Dowah> I dont have windows installed at all
[19:37] <Dowah>  Using Live cd
[19:38] <will> Oh
[19:38] <Noname_> how do i edit a file as root? I right click and open with gedit I think i know how to do it in the command line but how do you do it without the command line
[19:38] <will> Perhaps you should run a drive utility to rule out drive failure
[19:38] <Seveas> Noname_, gksudo gedit filename
[19:38] <Dowah> My bios wont even register drives now
[19:38] <bandit> i can't upgrade to RC ....can someone tell me some tips ?
[19:38] <Dowah> Win98 startup disk says not fat partion
[19:38] <will> Oh, sounds like the drives bad then, if BIOS won't register it, it's likely nothing to be with Ubuntu
[19:39] <ironfoot_495> Hi I'm interested in finding the best php editor to work with files is there such a editior?
[19:39] <Seveas> Dowah, your cables or drive controller may be broken then
[19:39] <Dowah> needs to be formatted again
[19:39] <Seveas> !best | ironfoot_495
[19:39] <millertime_018> how do i post on ubuntu forums?
[19:39] <ubotu> ironfoot_495: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[19:39] <will> Formatting doesn't matter to BIOS.
[19:39] <ompaul> Noname_, gksu gedit /path/to/files
[19:39] <Dowah> this is second time
[19:39] <Seveas> ompaul, about 5 minutes late :p
[19:39] <Dowah>  I formatted and all was weel agin till this morning
[19:39] <ompaul> millertime_018, ask in #ubuntuforums but it should be kinda obvious
[19:39] <Seveas> Dowah, your cables or drive controller may be broken then <-- check those.
[19:39] <Seveas> especially if your bios doesn't see the drives, that rules out OS problems
[19:40] <ompaul> Seveas, I'll go back to sleep ;-)
[19:40] <ironfoot_495> ubotu ok
[19:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:40] <Noname_> that a command for the commmand line i was thinking there was probably an easier way
[19:40] <will> Dowah:  If you go to your drive manufacturers website, you should be able to get a bootable cd image/floopy to test your drive. Do that after you check connections, etc.
[19:40] <Dowah> Ok will cange out the cable
[19:40] <earthmeLon> I am having troubles with a partition of mine.  Is there anybody around that is familiar with fdisk?
[19:40] <Dowah> Wiil ok thnaks
[19:40] <Seveas> Noname_, editing as root should hardly ever be needed, no need to make it too easy :)
[19:40] <periscope> is there a program I could use to organize all my music into folders by album then those into folders by artist? the way itunes does on windows
[19:40] <Dowah> will thanks
[19:40] <bandit> how can i upgrade from 7.04 to RC ? i have some errors
[19:40] <Seveas> bandit, update to 7.10 first
[19:41] <will> Dowah: , you can press TAB to fill out the rest of my name, :P
[19:41] <periscope> because I would love to automate that organization somehow, with 6k songs it is tedious to do
[19:41] <bandit> Seveas, can you guid me ?
[19:41] <Noname_> just seems like there should be a way to do it without command line
[19:41] <Seveas> !upgrade | bandit
[19:41] <ubotu> bandit: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:41] <bandit> !upgrade
[19:41] <HenryBen> hey all. my distribution upgrade is stalled. does anyone know what i should do?
[19:41] <odder> bandit: ah, go to the link ubotu's given :)
[19:42] <joshritger> Is there anyway while inside of a full screen app such as a game to get back to the desktop without closing the game or restarting X
[19:42] <usantu> qsoapcast not connecting in ubutntu. any help ???
[19:42] <Dowah> Will would if I knew what you mean am using pigdon
[19:42] <Seveas> HenryBen, 'stalled'?
[19:42] <bandit> ok all done ...now how can i get the RC
[19:42] <will> Dowah: Oh right, nevermind then thought you were in a fully fledged IRC client. :P
[19:43] <Seveas> bandit, first upgrade to 7.10. Then to 8.04 RC
[19:43] <matt444> where are the NFS logs located?
[19:43] <bandit> it's the last version
[19:43] <HenryBen> Seveas: downloaded everything, supposedly installing the upgrades, got as far as "stopping bluetooth services" and has been sitting there for nearly an hour
[19:43] <bandit> i have 7.10
[19:43] <Starseed> 8.04 is nice
[19:44] <Seveas> bandit, you just said you were on 7.04. Upgrading to 7.10 isn't this fast.
[19:44] <Noname_> i did gksu gedit etc/samba/smb.conf and it brought a blank file what did I do wrong
[19:44] <Seveas> HenryBen, run this: ps f -e
[19:44] <Seveas> HenryBen, and pastebin the output
[19:44] <bandit> i was wrong ...i just checked /etc/issuse
[19:44] <Seveas> Noname_, you forgot the leading /
[19:44] <bandit> *issue
[19:44] <periscope> is there a program I can organize my mp3s into folders by album, then into folders by artist? like itunes does?
[19:44] <Clinteger> I'm having trouble--this computer isnt showing up in the list of samba shares... none are, actually. running windows xp and ubuntu.
[19:44] <Seveas> bandit, good, then follow the instructions on the link ubotu gave
[19:44] <Noname_> damn:) thanks
[19:44] <bandit> update-manager --devel-release
[19:44] <earthmeLon> When I installed Ubuntu, I used fdisk to change a partition of mine.  My HDD had two 250g partitions; One for windows and one for where I install my games to.  The one with my games was 1 cylinder over the boundaries of my HDD and I fixed it using fdisk.  Now the partition is unknown and I would love to get it back working.  Any suggestions?
[19:44] <bandit> don't work in my case
[19:45] <Seveas> !doesn't work | bandit
[19:45] <ubotu> bandit: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[19:45] <Dowah> Will thanks again gonna check cables . I have HD testing software already .
[19:45] <joshritger> Is there anyway to get back to the desktop while in a game without closing the game?
[19:45] <HenryBen> Seveas: sorry. i have completely forgotten what pastebin means. where do i go?
[19:45] <Seveas> !pastebin | HenryBen
[19:45] <ubotu> HenryBen: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:45] <Sarthor^^> Hello, i want to configure the server as pppoe server, where can i found the manual for this?? i am using ubuntu,
[19:45] <archman> guys how to make nm-applet not to automatically try to connect to network when i start it?
[19:46] <aoshi_> Has anyone had experience with installing NVIDIAs 8800GT drivers?
[19:46] <joshritger> aoshi: use envy
[19:46] <earthmeLon> aoshi, I used Envy.  It works awesome
[19:46] <HenryBen> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63771/
[19:46] <ompaul> !envy
[19:46] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:46] <matt444> where are the NFS logs located?
[19:46] <earthmeLon> aoshi, it was the only way I could get Twinview to work properly ^_^
[19:46] <aoshi_> Yeah
[19:46] <Seveas> HenryBen, ps f -e
[19:46] <aoshi_> I was just about to try Envy, actually.
[19:47] <kyleky> I am trying to connect to my server with ssh and putty. and when i try to sudo a command it does not run
[19:47] <Seveas> HenryBen, and not ps f-e
[19:47] <aoshi_> But the thing is
[19:47] <kyleky> any ideas?
[19:47] <aoshi_> I don't have a CD drive
[19:47] <aoshi_> >_>
[19:47] <s0ftmachine> I just used LVPM to install ubuntu onto a 2nd Hard Drive, and all seemed to go sucessfully but when I restarted it appeared that wubi was still on my C: drive. Upon removing wubi I no longer get the grub menu. When I checked the second hard disk it had all of the linux filesystem stuff on it though. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[19:47] <HenryBen> Seveas: sorry. 1 minute...
[19:47] <usantu> hi LVPM says "You are running LVPM on a host installation. You must run it on a loopmounted install" i want to port the wubi install to separate partition
[19:47] <bandit> when i try to upgrade using update-manager --devel-release i get Error during update ailed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch
[19:47] <bandit> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch
[19:47] <bandit> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/source/Sources.gz Hash Sum mismatch
[19:47] <bandit> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/universe/source/Sources.gz Hash Sum mismatch
[19:47] <enterneo> hello
[19:47] <bandit> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Hash Sum mismatch
[19:47] <FloodBot2> bandit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <odder> kyleky: is it your own server? is it ubuntu? are you in the sudoers group?
[19:47] <odder> !hi | enterneo
[19:47] <ubotu> enterneo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:47] <archman> @Seveas: got a second?
[19:47] <Seveas> archman, depends on what you want to steal it for
[19:47] <enterneo> i am giving mibbit a shot
[19:47] <kyleky> odder: yes, yes, it has worked before.
[19:47] <noob13> kyleky: does the user you logged in as have sudo privs?
[19:48] <Noname_> damn i edited the file still get the same error suggests doing what I've already done
[19:48] <aoshi_> When I try to install envy is asks me to put in the Ubuntu Gutsy CD
[19:48] <aoshi_> so I can't install it..
[19:48] <Seveas> aoshi_, remove the line that refers to the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:48] <earthmeLon> One second aoshi
[19:48] <DiViN3> [-Hi-] there i need a help in setting up psybnc
[19:48] <archman> @Seveas: haha, i want to make nm-applet not to connect to some network when i start nm-applet via run...
[19:48] <kyleky> it should, i messed with some permissions on my account trying to get apache to see my public_html, im guessing i somehow lost sudo priveleges.. is there a way I can them back, without going local to server/
[19:48] <HenryBen> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63772/
[19:48] <earthmeLon> aoshi http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[19:48] <Seveas> archman, richtclick. untick 'Enable networking'
[19:49] <noob13> kyleky: does it return anything that might tell us what the error is?
[19:49] <LordMetroid> what does a process with <defunct> after the executable name under CMD shown in ps mean?
[19:49] <odder> kyleky: what exactly prints you the terminal?
[19:49] <kyleky> nothing
[19:49] <aoshi_> Thank you earthmeLon! :D
[19:49] <enterneo> did anyone try out Hardy RC1?
[19:49] <Seveas> HenryBen, run this: sudo kill 1753
[19:49] <alarmo> Is there anyway to perform X Configuration through xorgconfig instead of dpkg-reconfigure in ubuntu ?
[19:49] <earthmeLon> If you follow those directions aoshi, you remove the cd from the repositories, and swap them with online ones, so you can be lazy and just download the stuff :D
[19:49] <kyleky> there is no response, it just goes back to ready for next command
[19:49] <alessio> ciao a tutti
[19:49] <aoshi_> You're awesome, dood
[19:49] <Seveas> !it | alessio
[19:49] <ubotu> alessio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:49] <odder> !it | alessio
[19:49] <archman> @Seveas: and when i tick it back it will automatically start looking for some network...i dont want it to do it
[19:50] <noob13> kyleky: and u are sure the command didn't get executed...?
[19:50] <odder> Seveas: fast, you are :)
[19:50] <archman> @Seveas: and conf file?
[19:50] <kyleky> yes
[19:50] <Seveas> archman, then don't do that until you want to connect :)
[19:50] <kyleky> i did sudo service apache2 stop
[19:50] <s0ftmachine> I just used LVPM to install ubuntu onto a 2nd Hard Drive, and all seemed to go sucessfully but when I restarted it appeared that wubi was still on my C: drive. Upon removing wubi I no longer get the grub menu. When I checked the second hard disk it had all of the linux filesystem stuff on it though. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[19:50] <shawnr> Need help, soundcard not recognized after installing/uninstalling modem driver (Hardy)
[19:50] <kyleky> and web server didnt go down
[19:50] <kyleky> then i tried sudo reboot
[19:50] <archman> Seveas: haha pretty wise...lol
[19:50] <earthmeLon> When I installed Ubuntu, I used fdisk to change a partition of mine.  My HDD had two 250g partitions; One for windows and one for where I install my games to.  The one with my games was 1 cylinder over the boundaries of my HDD and I fixed it using fdisk.  Now the partition is unknown and I would love to get it back working.  Any suggestions?
[19:50] <kyleky> and my ssh connection never got reset or anything
[19:50] <Seveas> kyleky, 'service' is a redhatism. Doesn't exist in ubuntu
[19:50] <DiViN3> can anyone help me in a issue setting up psybnc
[19:50] <ompaul> kyleky, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[19:50] <kyleky> i installed that package that lets me do it
[19:51] <HenryBen> Seveas: ok. have done. no change
[19:51] <ompaul> kyleky, obviously not - it didnt
[19:51] <Seveas> HenryBen, ok, then run this: sudo kill -9 1753
[19:51] <WildChil17> hello there! I made a new user which doesn't has root access. How can I linit it's rights so this new user can only be in his home directory and can't copy any other data from other directorys? I don't wannt to chmod all other data. Is there a way so user is stuck in one directory and its sub dirs, like his home folder ?
[19:51] <Ximal> ok guys ... I've tried everything posible to fix my resolution ... is there a way to start a terminal from one of the ctl-alt-f1through6 keys ? like xterm as a command ?
[19:51] <kyleky> Its worked before..
[19:51] <Ximal> i'm guessing if I can start a terminal I can try the reconfigure again..
[19:51] <Seveas> WildChil17, no.
[19:51] <kyleky> I did it with that command ompaul, and its still running
[19:51] <kyleky> no output to cmd prompt or anything
[19:51] <Seveas> WildChil17, he'll still need access to applications etc...
[19:51] <ompaul> kyleky, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop    <---- you did that
[19:51] <HenryBen> Seveas: still no change
[19:52] <kyleky> yes
[19:52] <WildChil17> Seveas: I know, but he can easily copy pictures... videos...
[19:52] <Seveas> HenryBen, do ps f -e again and pastebing the output
[19:52] <bandit> i have problems upgrading to RC. Here is the error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63773/
[19:52] <Seveas> WildChil17, chmod o-x /home/* -- makes all homedirs inaccessible to everyone except their owner
[19:53] <Seveas> bandit, apparently the romanian mirror is broken. Use archive.ubuntu.com instead
[19:53] <WildChil17> Seveas: thanx
[19:53] <HenryBen> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63774/
[19:53] <WildChil17> chmod o-x /home/* -- makes all homedirs inaccessible to everyone except their owner
[19:53] <s0ftmachine> does anyone in here have any experience with LVPM?
[19:53] <Ximal> Err what I meant to say .. What is a standard terminal I can open ? and what is the command when I am in one of the windows labled TTy1-6
[19:54] <Seveas> HenryBen, kill 1748 (and kill -9 1748 if that doesn't help). It will break the upgrade process though, but we can fix that later
[19:54] <nonewmsgs> ctrl+alt+f1
[19:54] <christaker> hi to all :-)
[19:54] <nonewmsgs> ctrl+alt+f2. ctrl+alt+f3
[19:54] <Ximal> I also am planning to try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I can't remember how to close that file .... what do u do to close nano also and save chnges ?
[19:54] <Seveas> Ximal, ctrl+x
[19:54] <noob13> Ximal: indeed the above
[19:54] <HenryBen> Seveas: 1748 seems to have got it moving again
[19:54] <Ximal> huh... yeah... that would have been obvious ..
[19:55] <Ximal> what above ?
[19:55] <Ximal> oh ok
[19:55] <HenryBen> Seveas: yep. it's carrying on
[19:55] <Seveas> HenryBen, excellent, but it may be moving in the wrong (well, not entirely wrong, but it'll stop too soon) direction. Ping me when it's done so we can check if it broke
[19:56] <HenryBen> Seveas: ok. will do. it's claiming that it will be over an hour. we'll see. thanks.
[19:56] <Ximal> Yeah ... umm... I swear I am going to take my hd out and burn it slowly in the oven... but I can't get a terminal prompt from ctrl alt f1 through 6 ... Sure i can login and put my password in... but I can't start a terminal that let's me do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org without it giving me a failed return text when I'm in ctrl-alt-f1
[19:56] <s0ftmachine> Can anyone help me out with a little LVMP problem I seem to  be having
[19:57] <Seveas> Ximal, do you have a digital camera? If so make a picture of what you see after logging in
[19:57] <DiViN3> can anyone help me in a issue setting up psybnc
[19:57] <KyvaN> Salve a tutti!!!
[19:57] <Ximal> heck... If I could figure out what command to pass to the kernel whhile in the ctrl alt f1 to change my display's resolution .. I would be happy to do that..
[19:57] <Ximal> nope seveas..
[19:57] <Seveas> !it | KyvaN
[19:57] <ubotu> KyvaN: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:57] <KyvaN> ok grazie
[19:57] <shawnr> Help reconfiguring Hardy soundcard
[19:58] <odder> !hardy | shawnr
[19:58] <kyleky> Any idea ompaul?
[19:58] <ubotu> shawnr: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:58] <Ximal> I did the xserver reconfig earlier ... unfortunately I selected ALL video modes or per say resolutions... if I go in through nano to the xorg.conf should I be able to see how to select the DEFAULT resolution ? and if so .. when I hit ctrl-x to exit.. WILL it SAVE the file ?
[19:58] <DiViN3> Seveas : Can u assist me in getting my psybnc running
[19:58] <Seveas> DiViN3, no
[19:58] <DiViN3> haizzzzzzzzz
[19:58] <DiViN3> can anyone help me in a issue setting up psybnc
[19:59] <Itaku> 2 questions. Is there a good website making program that can build sites in PHP. and how do i do alt codes in ubuntu?
[19:59] <ompaul> kyleky, na - I told you what I do when I am doing it myself
[19:59] <shawnr> ubotu: Thanks, will try that channel
[19:59] <ompaul> kyleky, maybe look for typos
[19:59] <odder> isn't it ctrl+o what saves files in nano?
[19:59] <Ximal> ughh... brb .. thanks seveas.. i'll try the ctrl x thing.. brb
[19:59] <kyleky> sudo ls doesnt return anything
[19:59] <Itaku> odder: just do ctrl+x and itll ask if you want to save
[19:59] <Seveas> Itaku, ctrl+shift+u1234 (replace 1234 with any unicode codepoint)
[19:59] <earthmeLon> When I installed Ubuntu, I used fdisk to change a partition of mine.  My HDD had two 250g partitions; One for windows and one for where I install my games to.  The one with my games was 1 cylinder over the boundaries of my HDD and I fixed it using fdisk.  Now the partition is unknown and I would love to get it back working.  Any suggestions?
[19:59] <Itaku> thanks
[20:00] <odder> Itaku: yeah, I know, I'm just wondering.. I've always used ctrl+o :)
[20:00] <Itaku> and is there a good website making program that can build sites in PHP?
[20:00] <Seveas> odder, ctrl+o saves, ctrl+x quits and asks to save
[20:00] <earthmeLon> Itaku vim ^_^
[20:00] <Seveas> earthmeLon, ZZ for you then :)
[20:00] <Itaku> thanks earthmeLon :)
[20:00] <Itaku> you should be +o
[20:00] <Itaku> youre awesome
[20:00] <earthmeLon> Hardly, lol
[20:01] <odder> Seveas: I know :) it's another person who asked how to save files in nano, and you all told him/her its ctrl+x instead of ctrl+o
[20:01] <Dowah> will: left dam!! I wanted to thank him for the help. My disk boot failuer was just the cable.
[20:01] <DNPG> earthmeLon: did you try to toggle partition type using fdisk?
[20:01] <earthmeLon> I like vim because you can use it remotely through ssh and it color codes everything for you.  So, you can save and not have to re-load (like with ftp) and you can see easily
[20:02] <odder> Dowah: you can always leave him a memo here on freenode if he's registered (and you, too) :)
[20:02] <earthmeLon> No DNPG.  I know nothing about fdisk and didnt want to create further problems
[20:02] <earthmeLon> You're suggesting I open the partition and "toggle partition type"?
[20:02] <Itaku> wait vim is a terminal thing. i dont know php but i want to make a site in PHP with a GUI app like iWeb but in php. is that possible?
[20:02] <Dowah> odder ty .How do I find out if he is registered?
[20:02] <fo_x86> any one help me get the man 3 pages?
[20:02] <Seveas> Itaku, try bluefish
[20:02] <Itaku> k
[20:02] <earthmeLon> Oh, no.  Vim requires you to know PHP.  Sorry, didnt know that's what you meant
[20:02] <Itaku> thanks
[20:02] <Seveas> Dowah, /msg nickserv info nickname_here
[20:03] <Itaku> you should be moderator on here
[20:03] <Dowah> ok
[20:03] <DNPG> earthmeLon: if the partition type is unknown, maybe identifying the partition type will solve the problem... I hope.
[20:03] <s0ftmachine> I'm using LVPM to try to install 7.04 to a 2nd harddrive that I formatted to ext3 using partitionmagic...It doesn't seem to show up in my boot menu after I finish transfering from wubi...any help please?
[20:04] <earthmeLon> Okay DNPG.  I'm going to fumble my way through this.  Let's see ^_^
[20:04] <fo_x86> can I use the openssl/sha.h library to hash strings ?
[20:04] <voodoo> does anyone know if heron is going to have raid support in the installer? i'm currently fighting my system to get gutsy on it
[20:04] <DNPG> eartmeLon: give me some news about the result :)
[20:04] <Ax-Ax> hello
[20:04] <odder> !hi | Ax-Ax
[20:04] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:05] <Ax-Ax> lol
[20:05] <Itaku> Seveas: i dont know php though and i want to make a site in it like iWeb can but with PHP.
[20:05] <linkmaster03> what is a good screen recording program for ubuntu 7.10?
[20:06] <Dowah> odder: one more thing. What switch would i use to snd a memo ? :P
[20:06] <Ax-Ax> my computer doesn't have anything like sda or scd in /dev/, but /dev/sda1 is mounted. what can i do? reboot?
[20:06] <Seveas> Itaku, you sound like a csrf/xss/sql injection waiting to happen. Better learn php first.
[20:06] <odder> Dowah: try /msg MemoServ help
[20:06] <Seveas> Dowah, /msg memoserv help
[20:06] <s0ftmachine> is there a channel I can go to where i may be able to get some help with LVPM?
[20:06] <Dowah> ok
[20:06] <gilster32> anyone have experience here manually adding an MTP mp3 player?
[20:06] <Doug52392> Hi, I just dug out my old laptop (I haven't used it in months), but I can't get into the network configuration anymore. I get a message thats says "The configuration could not be loaded" "You are not allowed to access the system configuration"
[20:06] <linkmaster03> what is a good screen recording program for ubuntu 7.10?
[20:07] <Doug52392> What do I do?
[20:07] <noob13> Doug52392: what version are u on?
[20:08] <earthmeLon> DNPG, when I open the hdd in fdisk, and then list the partitions, can I get the sizes of the partitions instead of start/end?
[20:08] <Ax-Ax> my computer doesn't have anything like sda or scd in /dev/, but /dev/sda1 is mounted. what can i do? should i reboot?
[20:08] <Doug52392> I would assume it's a year out of date, I haven't used this computer in over a year, or upgraded it. But it was working when I tried it a few months ago.
[20:09] <earthmeLon> Ax-Ax, You could try a re-boot.  ALso, there is a command to remount all your hdd's.  Let me see if I can remember it
[20:09] <gilster32> I have an mp3 flash player that only supports MTP mode. None of my audio programs pick it up automatically but when i do lsusb...i see it there. and MTP-Detect picks it up at least to some degree
[20:09] <Ax-Ax> earthmeLon: they are mounted, but i want a dvd to mount
[20:10] <earthmeLon> An ISO, Ax-Ax or a real DVD?
[20:10] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I believe there is a way of changing that... let me see
[20:10] <Ax-Ax> earthmeLon: a real dvd
[20:10] <Had3l> Anyone else having problems with wireless in 8.04?
[20:10] <earthmeLon> Ax-Ax put the dvd in and try running mount -a
[20:10] <Ax-Ax> earthmeLon: I have all hdds mounted, thats no problem, but there is no things in /dev
[20:11] <Doug52392> How do I get into the networking if it says "You are not allowed to access the system configuration" as root???
[20:11] <kyleky> Is there anyway I can give myself sudo permissions via ssh? I was messing with permissions trying to let apache access my public_html directory and I obviously messed them up, but I wont be able to get access to server until Monday...
[20:11] <Ax-Ax> earthmeLon: oh, they appeared on the latest check.. no problem anymore :)
[20:12] <ompaul> Doug52392, system -> administration ->networking (use your own password)
[20:12] <Doug52392> I tried that
[20:12] <matthew_> help!  i can't edit my sudoers file.  parse error
[20:12] <earthmeLon> hehe, nice Ax-Ax
[20:12] <matthew_> what do I do to get it back?
[20:12] <noob13> Doug52392: are you able to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:12] <Doug52392> yes
[20:13] <ompaul> kyleky, you have to wait given you borked it has a security model you are now dealing with it
[20:13] <will> Quick question: Does x64 offer much improvement over x86 when using a Core 2 Duo?
[20:13] <Seveas> matthew_, then you edited it in an unsafe way before
[20:13] <noob13> Doug52392: i'd actually recommend u do an update..
[20:14] <mutable> Hello. Please could anybody tell me what is the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new? I have GeForce 6x series card on my laptop and with nvidia-glx-new I have broken virtual terminals (mangled flickering color when I try to switch), so I installed nvidia-glx but now it seems I have no 3d acceleration. :(
[20:14] <Seveas> matthew_, *always* use visudo. It won't let you write a messed up file to disk
[20:14] <noob13> Doug52392: assuming you have net on the machine..
[20:14] <matthew_> Seveas:  I did use visudo
[20:14] <earthmeLon> DNPG, Do I want to edit bsd disklabel?
[20:14] <Doug52392> I can't if I can't configure the network :(
[20:14] <Clinteger> hmm. I can access my Ubuntu laptop's samba share from this Windows XP computer, but I can't access this computer's samba shares from the Ubuntu laptop. I go to network and click on Windows Network, but the workgroups don't show up :/
[20:14] <ShishKabab> Hi! I want to help a friend install his Ubuntu Server.... I have SSH access. I there any way he could watch what I'm doing?
[20:14] <matthew_> Seveas:  accidentally saved i think
[20:14] <oklinux> does dell computer have ubuntu ?
[20:14] <Seveas> matthew_, you did not. visudo won't let you do that.
[20:14] <matthew_> Seveas:  yes, i did
[20:15] <matthew_> Seveas:  i gave some type of warning, but i accidentally saved it i think
[20:15] <pifou> I've compiled a new kernel to remove some elements, but the final initrd.img file is 45 MB big. What went wrong ?
[20:15] <mumu> which linux program is most common to play .rm (real player) files
[20:16] <Seveas> matthew_, I'm very tempted to call that insanely stupid. it says DANGER and you still do that
[20:16] <Seveas> matthew_, boot from a live cd, mount and chroot into your rootpartition and fix /etc/sudoers
[20:16] <will> mutable:  I think you want to be using the newer one. :)
[20:16] <earthmeLon> mumu, not sure, but I do know that you can install realplayer in Ubuntu very easily.
[20:16] <matthew_> Seveas:  Yes, on accident.  regardless, i didn't come here to get preached out. i came here to fix it.
[20:17] <DNPG> earthmeLon: no, don't edit it. I didn't find a way of vieweing partitions size on fdisk. I believe you just need to change the partition type using "t" and then choose the number of the partition. you may see the number of the partition using "p".
[20:17] <mutable> will: And what about that problem with terminals? I'm currently reading big forum post on ubuntuforums. When I installed 7.04 I had no problems, it appeared after upgrade to 7.10 (with nvidia-glx-new).
[20:17] <DNPG> earthmeLon: then you just need to choose the partition type choosing a code from the list "L"
[20:18] <voodoo> seriously are they ever going to add raid support to the gui installer? i hate having to do this manually
[20:18] <earthmeLon> DNPG, okay... here we go :D
[20:18] <oklinux> what is the easiest linux distro for a windows user to run on a computer ?
[20:19] <explorer2> I tried lived cd for ubuntu 8.04. Do not find much difference in Look n Feel
[20:19] <ivo> oklinux: ubuntu
[20:19] <Seveas> oklinux, which answer do you expect in #ubuntu?
[20:19] <earthmeLon> DNPG 86 and 87 are both NTFS volume set
[20:19] <arnath> i'm having a problem with an audio codec called "cook", if i open it with kine, then i can play it without problems, however it takes like 1-2 hours to import and takes up 30 gig
[20:19] <arnath> is there a better/Faster way to change it to another codec?
[20:19] <theunixgeek> how do I get out of busybox?
[20:19] <oklinux> Seveas pclinuxos ?
[20:19] <theunixgeek> the live cd boot keeps dropping me to a busybox shell
[20:19] <zutme> So I installed ubuntu last night, and I'm having some crazy dns issues. Namely it takes forever for a name to resolve. ip addresses work instantly. I have a gentoo install on another hard drive and do not have this problem on it. Ideas?
[20:20] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I can't see the difference between then. I solved this once with fat32. let me google it...
[20:20] <knulfine> gibt es auch bei linux (wie bei mac) einen Ordner den man übers Internet direkt erreichen kann?
[20:20] <Seveas> !de | knulfine
[20:20] <ubotu> knulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:20] <knulfine> ooups thanks
[20:21] <mutable> Had anynone problems with switching to virtual terminals please?
[20:21] <earthmeLon> DNPG I hope that I did the right partition.  It says it was busy and will be edited next boot
[20:21] <MagoonD> I am having trouble loggin onto MSN using pidgin in ubuntu gutsy does anyone else have this problem or suggest another msn client that works for ubuntu?
[20:21] <zutme> So I installed ubuntu last night, and I'm having some crazy dns issues. Namely it takes forever for a name to resolve. ip addresses work instantly. I have a gentoo install on another hard drive and do not have this problem on it. Ideas?
[20:21] <theunixgeek> !anyone | mutable
[20:21] <ubotu> mutable: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:21] <earthmeLon> Anybody know how to make text highlights when someone says your nick in bitchx? like mirc/pidgin?
[20:21] <sergiu> hello
[20:21] <Seveas> theunixgeek, seeing busybox on the live cd is eithera broken cd or broken memory
[20:21] <DNPG> earthmeLon: you can always boot a CD with linux and change it back if needed
[20:22] <sergiu> can i use dns-nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:22] <mutable> theunixgeek: THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
[20:22] <theunixgeek> Seveas: it's been doing that to all the live cds I download
[20:22] <earthmeLon> hehe.  rebooting, wish me luck
[20:22] <theunixgeek> !caps | mutable
[20:22] <ubotu> mutable: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:22] <DNPG> earthmeLon: good luck :D
[20:22] <Ax-Ax> how do i play a dvd in vlc?
[20:22] <Seveas> sergiu, no, use /etc/resolv.conf if you use static ip's or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.comf if you use dhcp
[20:22] <Seveas> theunixgeek, then it's broken memory (or a broken cd drive)
[20:23] <theunixgeek> mutable: see, the problem with your question is that you're asking if somebody has had problems with that. I have had problems, but I don't know if my problems were the same as yours, so I couldn't help you very much.
[20:23] <theunixgeek> Seveas: the ordered ubuntu cds work fine :P
[20:23] <ShishKabab> Hi! I want to help a friend install his Ubuntu Server.... I have SSH access. I there any way he could watch what I'm doing?
[20:23] <Seveas> theunixgeek, fine, then you're burning them wrong. So back to broken cd.
[20:23] <theunixgeek> Seveas: see my pm
[20:24] <theunixgeek> !repeat | ShishKabab
[20:24] <ubotu> ShishKabab: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:24] <ShishKabab> Thnx! Sorry :$
[20:24] <matthew_> help!   i need to fix my sudoers file but i can't open it with any text editors!  not visudo, or anything!
[20:24] <sergiu> спасибо короче, я долга искал где прописать всеже этот днс
[20:24] <sergiu> Ş)
[20:24] <Seveas> matthew_, boot from a live cd, mount and chroot into your rootpartition and fix /etc/sudoers
[20:24] <theunixgeek> !ru | sergiu
[20:24] <ubotu> sergiu: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:24] <sergiu> надо запомнить
[20:25] <theunixgeek> sergiu:  /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:25] <sergiu> Ş))))))))
[20:25] <sergiu> Sorrry
[20:25] <sergiu> i thgout that i am in ubuntu-ru
[20:25] <sergiu> thought
[20:26] <earthmeLon> wo0t! Doesnt looke like I messed anything up DNPG
[20:26] <earthmeLon> But, I dont see it mounted.  Maybe I need to mount it manually
[20:26] <mutable> theunixgeek: i'm currently reading one ubuntu forum post about that problem, i'll try some suggestions from there first
[20:26] <Flare183> ShishKabab: vnc maybe?
[20:26] <DNPG> earthmeLon: good ideia, try to mount it manually
[20:27] <ShishKabab> Flare183: Where should I start?
[20:27] <Flare183> ShishKabab: umm... wait a second
[20:27] <ShishKabab> Flare183: I only need to use the terminal by the way
[20:28] <ShishKabab> He doesn
[20:28] <Flare183> ShishKabab: i know
[20:28] <ShishKabab> 't have a desktop have a desktop enviroment
[20:28] <Flare183> ShishKabab: oh ok sorry vnc won't help you then.
[20:28] <Ximal> Ok .. got it working again seveas ... thanks for the ctrl x.. heh... now I need someone to tell me why I can't do this anymore...
[20:28] <Ximal> http://www.pastebin.org/30806
[20:28] <MagoonD> I am having trouble loggin onto MSN using pidgin in ubuntu gutsy does anyone else have this problem or suggest another msn client that works for ubuntu?
[20:29] <Flare183> ShishKabab: and the only way I know is ssh
[20:29] <Flare183> MagoonD: yes. amsn
[20:29] <ShishKabab> Flare183: I have SSH access!
[20:29] <MagoonD> Flare183, have others experienced pidgin msn issues?
[20:29] <Flare183> MagoonD: yes some
[20:29] <MagoonD> Flare183, ok thx
[20:30] <Flare183> ShishKabab: ok
[20:30] <Flare183> !vnc | ShishKabab
[20:30] <ubotu> ShishKabab: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[20:30] <Flare183> ShishKabab: try that
[20:30] <haxi_> hi.
[20:30] <haxi_> [21:25:12] <LeAkeR> root      5373  0.0  0.0  13236  1604 ?        Ss   20:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[20:30] <haxi_> [21:25:12] <LeAkeR> root      5374  0.0  0.1  13696  3080 ?        S    20:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[20:30] <haxi_> what the hell is that, two gdm and two xorg running..?!..
[20:31] <ShishKabab> Flare183: I'll look at it... Thnx!
[20:31] <Flare183> ShishKabab: ok
[20:31] <Flare183> !language | haxi_
[20:31] <ubotu> haxi_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:31] <earthmeLon> Hehe. DNPG, I added it to my fstab, and mount -a returned "The device '/dev/sda7' doesn't have a valid NTFS."
[20:31] <haxi_> Flare183: ;]
[20:32] <Flare183> haxi_: ok. Do you have compiz or any other XGL program running?
[20:32] <DNPG> earthmeLon: and the other code listed in the partitions type? can you try it?
[20:32] <tomoyuki28jp> What's the best way to make Ctrl + M as an additional Enter key?
[20:32] <haxi_> nope
[20:32] <earthmeLon> You mean 87 instead of 86?
[20:32] <Flare183> haxi_: umm.... I don't know then
[20:32] <Ximal> hey ... umm anyone ? now when I try to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org it tells me it is now installed .. I pasted the issue here ... http://www.pastebin.org/30806
[20:33] <Flare183> haxi_: maybe it's supposed to do that.
[20:33] <haxi_> ok
[20:33] <tomoyuki28jp> What's the best way to make Ctrl + M as an additional Enter key?
[20:33] <DNPG> earthmeLon: yeap! try the 87. if this doesn't work I don't know how can I help you more... :|
[20:34] <beener> is unmount, in the drop down menu (when you click the right buton), the same thing as eject
[20:34] <earthmeLon> lol DNPG.  It seems I changed the wrong partition hehe
[20:35] <earthmeLon> qtparted ftw
[20:35] <beener> because this is telling me to eject but i cant find eject
[20:35] <earthmeLon> Let's try this again
[20:35] <Odd-rationale> Can someone point me to a howto on how to map special laptop buttons (not keys) to custom commands, like a shell script? thanks!
[20:35] <rsc___> hey guys where can i ask for python help?
[20:35] <beener> i looked at the little bits ubuntu page but i see none of that that its showing me
[20:35] <DNPG> earthmeLon: lol. ok, go ahead. :)
[20:35] <matthew_> i get a syntax error when i try to edit the sudoers.  what could be the syntax problem?
[20:36] <beener> so is unmount the same at eject then (to saftly remove my usb drive)
[20:36] <earthmeLon> DNPG, is "Linux PLaintext" ext3?
[20:36] <frederific> beener: yes
[20:36] <beener> frederific: thank you
[20:37] <DNPG> earthmeLon: i don't know, let me see it in fdisk
[20:37] <earthmeLon> Alright, another reboot.
[20:38] <matt___> I like messing around with stuff, trying to get it to work. I recently setup a server edition, it is working great. I was just wondering of some "software" I could drop in the /var/www/ dir on it that perhaps would make my everyday life easier somehow. Any suggestions?
[20:38] <Annirak> I'm trying to get a via Rhine based ethernet card working under ubuntu 7.10.  The makefile that came with the card is broken and I can't find the package I need.  Which package contains the Via Rhine driver?
[20:38] <ulan> #drupal-support
[20:38] <Seveas> matt___, you mean configuration-via-a-webinterface?
[20:38] <beener> frederific: is there a patch to get it to work right? i mean see the stuff that on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/littledetails
[20:38] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:39] <Ximal> !resolution
[20:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:39] <eaglestar> hi i have a chatting program called trading rooms that i need to run in ubuntu but it won't start with wine how do i run it in ubuntu i can put in my password and login but it never connects
[20:39] <puffandstuff> hello
[20:39] <puffandstuff> i need help to have best 3d performances hope some of you will help me
[20:39] <AlexMoore> Everyone is interestes in making money. Do it today by doing short surveys. https://www.surveysavvy.com?id=3326021&action=join
[20:39] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:40] <ShishKabab> ubotu: Hello, I'm back :) The guide you gave me assumes you have X11, but the target PC only has the terminal
[20:40] <Seveas> ShishKabab, ubotu is a bot
[20:40] <puffandstuff> i've radeon x300 graphical card, i've tried catalyst driver / official ubuntu proprietary drivers and open source and i'm quite confused now
[20:40] <puffandstuff> please help :"(
[20:40] <cirkit> is there a way to change the default ubuntu logo in the menu up left corner? I tried changing the distributor-logo.png file but it still there
[20:40] <PsykoNova> gros probleme linux seek de l'aide [URGENT]
[20:40] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:40] <PsykoNova> gros probleme linux seek de l'aide [URGENT]!
[20:40] <PsykoNova> gros probleme linux seek de l'aide [URGENT]!!
[20:40] <ShishKabab> Seveas: Hehe.... Thanks for the tip
[20:41] <Seveas> PsykoNova, behave
[20:41] <Seveas> !fr | PsykoNova
[20:41] <ubotu> PsykoNova: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:41] <beener> frederific: eh, ill just deal with it. thanks again
[20:41] <AndyBeels> Hey I need some Ubuntu help, anyonw want to help?
[20:41] <live2k4> anyone can tell me how to make ubuntu mount a ntfs usb drive ?
[20:41] <puffandstuff> I dont want any 3d desktop stuff, i just want to have 3D working (for my games and some other stuff), wich driver to use please ?
[20:41] <odder> AndyBeels: just ask :)
[20:41] <eaglestar> does anyone recommend copying windows system and windows system32 dll files to wine directories
[20:41] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:42] <zutme> So I installed ubuntu last night, and I'm having some crazy dns issues. Namely it takes forever for a name to resolve. ip addresses work instantly. I have a gentoo install on another hard drive and do not have this problem on it. Ideas?
[20:42] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I believe you just need to identify it as "Linux", the code is 83, then it can be any file system supported by your installation.
[20:42] <AndyBeels> Ok, I downloaded Tremulous with synaptic and then added it with add/remove, but it is nowhere on my computer.
[20:42] <sagredo> FELLOW GNU+LINUX HACKERS
[20:42] <sagredo> how does one best go about opening a .iso file?
[20:42] <Seveas> !caps | sagredo
[20:42] <ubotu> sagredo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:42] <clincks> How to get encoded password from clear password ?
[20:42] <Seveas> !iso | sagredo
[20:42] <ubotu> sagredo: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[20:42] <odder> AndyBeels: what do you mean 'nowhere'?
[20:42] <AndyBeels> I search and I have the icon, but no files.
[20:42] <Seveas> clincks, encode it :)
[20:42] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:42] <clincks> Seveas, lol... what is the command
[20:43] <earthmeLon> DNPG, It doesnt seem like fdisk is actually changing the partitions.  My sda2 didnt change to NTFS in qtparted, and neither did sda7 change back to ext3
[20:43] <Seveas> clincks, depends on the encoding/encryption/hashing function you want to use
[20:43] <ShishKabab> Flare183: Are you still there? I notice VNC needs X11 and he only has the terminal...
[20:43] <sagredo> Seveas: You are both elegent and a gentleman
[20:43] <Flare183> ShishKabab: yes kinda busy
[20:43] <Joeeigel> Hey, I got a problem with my wireless, Info is here http://tinyurl.com/5lmu5d
[20:43] <Flare183> ShishKabab: sorry I can't help
[20:43] <clincks> Seveas, I want to encode for the useradd method
[20:43] <tomd123> Seveas: you can use archiver to open an ios
[20:43] <tomd123> iso
[20:43] <Flare183> !ssh | ShishKabab
[20:43] <ubotu> ShishKabab: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[20:43] <Flare183> try that
[20:43] <Flare183> !repeat | Joeeigel
[20:43] <ubotu> Joeeigel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:43] <matt___> Seveas: I just mean software that perhaps I could use on my home network
[20:44] <odder> Joeeigel: hm. My flash player is outdated :)
[20:44] <ShishKabab> Flare183: Ok... Thanks a lot anyway!
[20:44] <matt___> Seveas: Seveas not setting stuff up...just to play around with.
[20:44] <Flare183> ShishKabab: I'm sorry
[20:44] <DNPG> earthmeLon: that is strange. did you forget to write the changes? press "w" after applying your changes
[20:44] <ShishKabab> Flare183: Np... Bye!
[20:45] <Flare183> ok
[20:45] <earthmeLon> I did not forget, BUT after looking at another HDD, i need to be using hex code 7, not 86/87.  Let me try it with 7
[20:45] <Coniferous> can you run a application on another c display from an ssh session?
[20:45] <Seveas> matt___, mpd is a nice toy
[20:46] <earthmeLon> Another reboot.  BRB DNPG
[20:46] <Coniferous> x display, x display
[20:46] <matt___> Seveas: looking up
[20:46] <eaglestar> how do you find which dll's a program needs to run with in wine???
[20:46] <matt___> Seveas: umm...looks good, but doesn't look like I really have a use for it, wish I did though.
[20:47] <Seveas> matt___, :)
[20:47] <matt___> Seveas: what is this drupal, is that something like wordpress?
[20:47] <Seveas> sort of, drupal is fancier and can do more
[20:47] <dkkong> !hardy
[20:47] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:47] <free1> something went very bad.   I switched languages in the system->admin section, then back to english, and all my icons and files disappeared from my desktop
[20:47] <logi4021> is anyone getting wma9 working?
[20:47] <matt___> Seveas: really? better than wordpress ehh..perhaps I'll try it on my homenetwork, then perhaps my website.
[20:48] <mvno_subscriber> Hi... I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a LiveCD, it loads the kernel then my screen gets black. I've got a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop. CD works on other machines. And it's not the "vga=xx"-bug... Can anyone help?
[20:48] <Seveas> matt___, wordpress is full of security bugs. Drupal less so
[20:48] <matt___> Seveas: so does drupal also "perform" better?
[20:48] <Seveas> depends on your definition of perform
[20:48] <tomd123> mvno_subscriber: did you try the safe boot option?
[20:48] <sagredo> Seveas: how can I see all available mount points? Such as /dev/cdrom
[20:48] <mvno_subscriber> tomd123: yes, same problem
[20:49] <Seveas> sagredo, every folder is a potential mountpoint
[20:49] <Seveas> sagredo, use 'mount' without arguments to see current mounts
[20:49] <sagredo> Seveas: which mount point should I use to mount an iso?
[20:49] <free1> is it common for files to disappear from the desktop but be in the desktop folder??
[20:49] <Seveas> sagredo, anywhere you fancy
[20:49] <earthmeLon> DNPG, yes.  It seems that FDISK is failing to change the partitions type, even after I reboot (yes I am using w command)
[20:49] <matt___> Seveas: i'm thinking perform=lots of people veiw your site, which is lightest? Like, which would handle digg frontpage the best on the same server?
[20:50] <sagredo> Seveas: my logic is not mounting this DVD iso correctly
[20:50] <KalEl> how can i inhibit gnome power manager from turning off the monitor using shell script?
[20:50] <Seveas> matt___, no idea. Haven't done any comparisons myself
[20:51] <matt___> Seveas: alright..thanks
[20:51] <earthmeLon> DNPG according to FDISK, the System is changed, but according to qtparted, they are unknown filesystems
[20:51] <taliz> anyone with grub skills? please see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/119894-file-boot-grub-stage1-not-read-correctly.html#post579299
[20:51] <DNPG> arthmeLon: and you still are unable to mount them, right?
[20:52] <edward_> hi. i'm having problem with a advent laptop. The display works when running from live cd or in recovery mode, but not when i run ubuntu (7.10) from the HD. Bizarrely if I plug a cable into the video output socket the display does work. Any ideas?
[20:52] <earthmeLon> Well, sda7 is my /home partition, so it's mounted right now ^_^ but sda2, which is the NTFS will not mount
[20:52] <sagredo> Seveas: can you tell me more abount mounting an iso?
[20:53] <DNPG> earthmeLon: did you try mouting the NTFS as readonly?
[20:53] <Seveas> sagredo, mount -o loop -t filesystem-on-the-iso-file /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[20:53] <Seveas> sagredo, 'file /path/to/iso' should identify the filesystem
[20:54] <sagredo> Seveas: let me show you how I entered the command
[20:55] <earthmeLon> DNPG I did not try that.  I just added this line to my fstab: /dev/sda2     /media/sda2     ntfs     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0.   When I do mount -a I get this: NTFS signature is missing. Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Invalid argument. The device '/dev/sda2' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[20:56] <bobbybooshay> Hello all - question: how would i get ubuntu to NOT mount my windows hard disks at startup?
[20:56] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I am sorry, I have no more ideas...
[20:56] <fxfitz> HI, I'm trying to install the beta for Hardy, but it failed to install GRUB. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[20:57] <will> Hello, quick question: Does x64 offer much improvement over x86 when using a Core 2 Duo? If so would it be worth me doing a fresh install?
[20:57] <earthmeLon> Haha.  Thanks DNPG for helping.  I really do appreciate it.  One last thing;  Have any idea what this signature it wants is?
[20:57] <eaglestar> what is the best opensource vm for ubuntu is virtualbox  the best?
[20:58] <DNPG> earthmeLon: that signature should be the partition type.
[20:58] <steven> Does anyone know where I can find the VNC configuration files?
[20:58] <HenryBen> Seveas: remember me? all sorts of weird things happened. it stalled again and then froze. to cut a long story short, i'm in gnome, but lots of errors have occured. how can i check my system?
[20:59] <bobbybooshay> !askthebot
[20:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:59] <natalisushka> Hello guys. Knowing the IP of a PC running system, how can I using command line or browser login?
[20:59] <Seveas> HenryBen, do you mind if I PM you?
[20:59] <osmosis> im trying to figure out how to flash the bios on my ubuntu dell 1420
[20:59] <KalEl> how can i inhibit gnome power manager from turning off the monitor using shell script?
[20:59] <HenryBen> Seveas: go for it
[20:59] <fxfitz> HI, I'm trying to install the beta for Hardy, but it failed to install GRUB. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[20:59] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I am not 100% sure ;)
[21:00] <steven> I accidentally set the VNC option on one of my computers to ask for a password prior to connection... however I forgot the password. I can SSH into the machine, any suggestions on how I can remove the password from VNC when I am logged in via SSH ?
[21:00] <fxfitz> steven, Do you have X11 forwarding set up/
[21:00] <DNPG> earthmeLon: I have to go. good luck!
[21:00] <sathya> i am in
[21:00] <sagredo> Seveas: why not worky? sudo mount -o loop /home/sagredo/Elements Of Life/DVD1/dt-eoliwtc_a.r06_FILES/ELEMENTS_OF_LIFE.ISO /home/sagredo
[21:01] <steven> fxfitz, I did not take any specific actions to set that up... so I doubt it
[21:01] <fxfitz> steven, Alright, so... how are you SSHing to your computer? Are you on another linux machine using a terminal?
[21:01] <Seveas> sagredo, put "" around the filename
[21:01] <bobbybooshay> anyone know how i can prevent ubuntu from mounting my windows hard disk at startup?  the windows partitions are on a different physical disk
[21:02] <steven> fxfitz, I am on a windows box.... logged into corp network via VPN... and using putty
[21:02] <nikku> hello.
[21:02] <steven> fxfitz, I need to use Windows because of the VPN client software
[21:03] <fxfitz> steven, Oh, darn. I can't help you then. See, if you were on linux then you could do 'vino-preferences' and it will popup the VNC settings box, but since you're using putty it won't do it.
[21:03] <dkkong> If I install Gusty on my iBook G4, will my Airport Extreme work?
[21:03] <nikku> i could use some help installing a desktop with the apt-get command.
[21:03] <steven> fxfitz, What if I was using Cygwin and tried to ssh -XY ?
[21:03] <nikku> on a server
[21:03] <mvno_subscriber> Can anyone help me with getting Ubuntu to boot? I only get a black screen when booting from CD. Safe mode does not work. CD works on other computers. I'm using a laptop. Tried googling over an hour but found nothing..
[21:03] <dkkong> nikku: which desktop?
[21:04] <nikku> gnome
[21:04] <fxfitz> steven, That would work!
[21:04] <sagredo> Seveas: it appears the command was ran, however, no video is playing (I'm trying to watch a DVD)
[21:04] <dkkong> should just be sudo apt-get insall ubuntu-desktop nikku
[21:04] <sagredo> Seveas: rather, is running
[21:04] <steven> fxfitz, ok I really hope I have X11 forwarding on.... thanks a lot
[21:04] <nikku> i get a error msg
[21:04] <BCBudLover83> Hey guys, i just have a quick question about Rhythmbox, is there a way you can tell Rhythmbox to ignore the differences in uppercase and lowercase letters?
[21:04] <dkkong> What's it say?
[21:04] <SeaPhor> sagredo, have you looked at this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/easy-way-of-mountunmount-iso-images-in-ubuntu.html
[21:05] <fxfitz> steven, Yeah, I think you would have to have installed the X11 tree in the cygwin settings. If you did, and you ssh using the command 'ssh -X <place>' or 'ssh -Y <place>' it should work
[21:05] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to make a bluetooth PAN automatically request a DHCP lease?
[21:05] <s0ftmachine> hi all...can someone please help me with a grub issue i am having?
[21:05] <BCBudLover83> its dumb because i loaded up all my music, but the way rhythmbox is set up, lets say with Metallica, Metallica and metallica would show up as 2 different artists
[21:05] <steven> fxfitz, ill do that now thx a lot
[21:05] <nikku> unmet dependencies
[21:06] <fxfitz> s0ftmachine, lol I'm having a grub problem too
[21:06] <fxfitz> steven, Not a problem. Good luck!
[21:06] <sagredo> SeaPhor: Not yet, I will
[21:07] <Coniferous> can you run a application on another  display from an ssh session?
[21:07] <Coniferous> can you run a application on another X display from an ssh session?
[21:07] <s0ftmachine> fxfitz, yeah I just used LVPM to do an isntall but ubuntu won't actually boot from the partition I installed it on
[21:07] <jvxr> I have a gnome power manager question(toshiba laptop) can someone help ?
[21:07] <BCBudLover83> anyone know if there is a rhythmbox irc channel?
[21:07] <fxfitz> s0ftmachine, Hmm, well that problems way out of my league. Sorry!
[21:08] <sixfifty> I have a quick question. I am trying to set up a Huawei E169G, I followed the guide for the e220 and managed to get it to show an ip address using wvdial but it freezes there. Any help?
[21:08] <will> Is it worth upgrading to x64?
[21:08] <BCBudLover83> will, i would say no
[21:09] <jvxr> @wll , unless you plan to run a huge database or server dont
[21:09] <BCBudLover83> 64bit only really allows for over 4gb of ram
[21:09] <s0ftmachine> fxfits, that's cool, I can't seem to get a straight answer anywhere...been trying to get linux installed on my box for the past 3 days and I'm so close it's killing me
[21:09] <will> BCBudLover83: So there's not much performance increase, or not much software support? Cheers :)
[21:09] <BCBudLover83> running in 64bit may screw u over with software compatibility
[21:09] <chucklarge> Hi all, just did the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04rc1 and my network is dead.  in 7.10 my network card was eth2 and now it is eth1.  when i restart the network '/etc/init.d/networking restart'  i get various error messages that eth2 device not found.  I suspect thats my problem, but don't know how to make the system use eth1 now.
[21:09] <will> ok
[21:09] <will> cheers
[21:09] <KalEl> how can i monitor hard disk usage and find out which process is reading/writing how much data to which files?
[21:09] <Daisuke_Ido> chucklarge, ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:10] <s0ftmachine> is anyone on here familiar with LVPM or a grub expert?
[21:10] <xtknight> !anyone | s0ftmachine
[21:10] <ubotu> s0ftmachine: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:10] <Daisuke_Ido> will, unless you have 4gb of ram or more or plan to do some seriously cpu-intensive work, the befeits of x64 are not offset by the drawbacks
[21:11] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to make a bluetooth PAN automatically request a DHCP lease?
[21:11] <jvxr> with 8.04 gnome power manager, controls to handle LCD brightness have gone missing ?!
[21:11] <fxfitz> I tried to install Hardy beta onto my computer, but it said grub installation failed. Can anyone help?
[21:11] <xtknight> !hardy
[21:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:12] <zvacet> fxfitz : try to reinstall grub
[21:12] <fxfitz> Ubuntu+1, gotcha!
[21:12] <SeaPhor> i need help, i want to re-install 7.10 32bit instaed of the amd64 i have now, also to get rid of Envy, i'm thinking my amd64 is whats causing my wireless issue
[21:12] <fxfitz> zvacet, How do I do that?
[21:12] <will> OK, thanks for all your wisdom :) I am planning on getting another 2GB, but I'm not that bothered if I can use only 3.25 or whatever if it will be too much hassle
[21:12] <scout_> how do i set port forwarding to stay on after reboot?
[21:12] <Vasa> Hi, I a complete newbie to linux, I wanna copy my MBR with command dd, could you help me?
[21:12] <Vasa> First HDD, and I need file to floppy
[21:12] <BCBudLover83> @fxfitz, check in your bios and make sure you have boot sector protection disabled
[21:12] <tomd123> will, 4gb is max in 32bit addressing
[21:12] <earthmeLon> Seaphor, what do you need help with exactly?
[21:12] <fxfitz> BCBudLover83, What is that?
[21:12] <xtknight> Vasa, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
[21:13] <s0ftmachine> sorry...I've used LVPM in conjunction with wubi to install Ubuntu on my secondary hard drive (configured in slave mode I believe)...now, when I reboot I can only boot back into the "wubi" version of linux on my primary drive...I tried removing wubi before when I had the problem but then no linux install shows up at all
[21:13] <BCBudLover83> @fxfitz, the bios? or boot sector protection?
[21:13] <xeer> Using 7.10 here on amd64. I have python 2.4 (and 2.5) installed though programs can't find libpython2.4.so.1.0 (I have it in /usr/lib/). Does it have to be in lib32? can anyone help me with this
[21:13] <KalEl> how can i monitor file usage?
[21:13] <xtknight> Vasa, or actually, to get it to a file do this then just put the file on afloppy.  that's a better idea.    dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/$USER/mymbr bs=512 count=1
[21:13] <fxfitz> BCBudLover83, Boot sector protection. Sorry! :(
[21:13] <zvacet> fxfitz : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[21:13] <will> tomd123:  So if I install 4GB, Linux will recognise and use 4GB, unlike Windows which only recognises 3.2GB (or something). I am a newb to Ubuntu. :)
[21:13] <xtknight> Vasa, 440 i believe will copy partition table and 512 copies boot code also?  if you want to do bootcode only then just reinstall grub, no need to backup mbr
[21:13] <Vasa> thanks a lot:D
[21:13] <SeaPhor> earthmeLon,  my /home is on a seperate partition, how do i re-install the 32 bit?
[21:14] <xtknight> Vasa, yeah, the dd cmd may need a sudo in front
[21:14] <scout_> How do I set IP forwarding to stay on after reboot? Currently I run echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward each time
[21:14] <Coniferous> can you run a application on another X display from an ssh session?
[21:14] <scout_> also how do i set the default gateway to stay after reboot?
[21:14] <xtknight> Coniferous, by setting DISPLAY variable you mean?
[21:14] <tomd123> will, ubuntu will recognize 4gb if you have a 32bit addressing, any more and it won't see it
[21:14] <xtknight> DISPLAY=:x.x app
[21:14] <Coniferous> Yeah
[21:14] <Coniferous> oh, great
[21:14] <Coniferous> i'll try thank, thank you
[21:14] <BCBudLover83> basically there is an option in most bioses that will stop any software from writing to the boot sector for protection from boot sector viruses. but when you try and install an OS, the OS (in this case ubuntu) installs grub and it gets told to run from the boot sector. the boot sector is basically a spot on the harddrive that tells your computer where to find a boot loader and etc
[21:14] <zvacet> SeaPhor :just don´t format home and install on previous root
[21:15] <will> tomd123: OK cool, one more reason to stop using Windows! :) Thanks, you lot in here are so helpful.
[21:15] <jvxr> ﻿SeaPhor, reinstall. uncheck the box to format /home
[21:15] <BCBudLover83> if you have boot sector protection on, ubuntu wont be able to write grub to the boot sector properly. that could be causing your problem
[21:15] <sathya> when i am connected to internet via a broad band connection, hw do i ssh to another comp if i knwo its ip
[21:16] <scout_> anyone? this is an easy question, how do you keep ip forwarding on after reboot?
[21:16] <tomd123> ssh user@ip
[21:16] <HymnToLife> sathya: ssh ip
[21:16] <sp33dy> scout_,  you mean on your router/
[21:16] <sp33dy> ?
[21:16] <sathya> tried but its not working
[21:16] <HymnToLife> yeah, and use if it's different than your current one
[21:16] <sathya> i trie telnet also
[21:16] <xeer> how can I get 32bit python 2.4 libraries for my amd64 system?
[21:16] <will> LOL, I see why no one else has taken the name 'Will' my name is being highlighted everywhere. :)
[21:16] <tomd123> sathya: specify the port also
[21:16] <xtknight> xeer, oh why 32bit python?
[21:16] <Coniferous> that worked great xtknight
[21:16] <xtknight> Coniferous, glad to hear
[21:16] <Coniferous> thanks
[21:16] <sathya> ok..
[21:16] <SeaPhor> zvacet, wont that also auto install another /home directory?
[21:17] <xeer> xtknight: my application depends on the 32bit build.
[21:17] <scout_> sp33dy, sure, i have setup an ubuntu router for dual-wan connections. but after each reboot i have to echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. i used to remember where to set this but no longer do.
[21:17] <jvxr> anyone using toshiba laptop with phoenix bios ? if so how do u set the lcd brightness.. ?
[21:17] <xtknight> xeer, the best option is to install a 32bit chroot and build your app within the 32bit chroot
[21:17] <scout_> sp33dy, startup script somewhere i am sure i just place that in there
[21:17] <zvacet> SeaPhor : no it will install OS at root partition
[21:17] <scout_> sp33dy, unless you meant abou thow to keep the default gw in route
[21:17] <xtknight> xeer, installing 32bit python libs is possible also though by extracting i386 debs from packages.ubuntu.com into /usr/lib32, most likely
[21:17] <kyleky> I`d like to test if I can connect to a mssql database from my server.. what would be easiest way.. I need to get hardaccess so I can install the php extensions for it, but I cant do that till monday.. id just like to test to see if i can connect, login, and select my databse
[21:17] <SeaPhor> zvacet, and can i ust the live cd or do i need the alternate?
[21:17] <kyleky> running ubuntu btw
[21:17] <StarServ`82459> ciao
[21:17] <StarServ`82459> !list
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[21:17] <fxfitz> If I want to manually set up grub on sda1, Would it be: root (hd0,0)?
[21:17] <odder> !it | StarServ`82459
[21:18] <millertime_018> can anyone tell me why my player wont play movies? i download from a site or try to watch one within firefox but it doesnt work!
[21:18] <zvacet> SeaPhor : <ou can use live for reinstall
[21:18] <ubotu> StarServ`82459: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:18] <BCBudLover83> @jvxr usually on your notebook keyboard there will be other pictures on the key that you can use while holding down the Fn key
[21:18] <millertime_018> please help me
[21:18] <xtknight> fxfitz, yes
[21:18] <xtknight> fxfitz, as long as that is a linux partition
[21:18] <sp33dy> millertime_018,  you running compiz?
[21:18] <BCBudLover83> @jvxr on mine, i hold down Fn and press the down arrow key
[21:18] <jvxr> @﻿BCBudLover, yes but the brightness is set only for each session,
[21:18] <fxfitz> xtknight, Yup. I just mounted that partition with knoppix and it is the partition that Hardy just installed
[21:18] <millertime_018> yea
[21:19] <jvxr> if you logout/ sleep / hibernate its back to 100 % brightness..
[21:19] <jvxr> and its glaring bright
[21:19] <sathya> nick/ sathya.phoenic
[21:19] <jvxr> its Fn+F6/7 for me
[21:19] <BCBudLover83> weird, even when the notebook isn't plugged in?
[21:19] <SeaPhor> zvacet, will that take-out/uninstall Envy? (hope so) and my other installed programs? (hope not)
[21:19] <fxfitz> xtknight, Hmm. When I do setup (hd0) though, it says it doesn't see /boot/grub/stage1... Any ideas?
[21:19] <sp33dy> millertime_018,  you need to tell player to use X11 to play the movie. It's a compiz issue
[21:20] <xtknight> fxfitz, hmm setup installs it to the mbr right?
[21:20] <jvxr> ﻿BCBudLover, I usally work with it plugged one
[21:20] <jvxr> on*
[21:20] <millertime_018> how do i do that?
[21:20] <fxfitz> xtknight, Yup, I believe so.
[21:20] <xtknight> fxfitz, well you need to specify the right --root-directory to the grub-install command.  --root-directory needs to be set to the directroy ABOVE /boot
[21:20] <sp33dy> milardovich, please append or prefix the users name that you are talking to, it gets very noisey in here, hard to follow
[21:20] <sp33dy> millertime_018, ^^
[21:20] <sp33dy> millertime_018, also, you need to go to Settings -> Preferences -> Video -> Output modules
[21:21] <milardovich> :-p no problem
[21:21] <sp33dy> and select X11 Video Output.
[21:21] <zvacet> SeaPhor : if you do ffesh install it will unistall programs but you will keep settings on your home partition
[21:21] <fxfitz> xtknight, Right. I set the root directory to (hd0,0) which is sda1, where Hardy install put all the files. However, during installation it said that it couldn't install grub. Does anything need to go onto the partition for grub?
[21:21] <jvxr> @﻿BCBudLover, I use a a105-s4334 its around a year old with he latest bios updates
[21:21] <erat123> has anyone made a script for a LiveUsbPendrivePersistent install for ubuntu?
[21:21] <xeer> xtknight: I have the i386 package for python2.4, how would I extract the dependancies?
[21:21] <BCBudLover83> i remember reading something about a program u can install to get more power management options. i found it on ubuntu brainstorm, im trying to find it again
[21:21] <xtknight> fxfitz, hmm well i'm not too familiar with using the setup cmd as i always do  "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt/myhardypartition"
[21:22] <xtknight> xeer, if you're trying to use 32bit python dev libraries on a 64bit machine i really dont know how to do that
[21:22] <jvxr> @﻿erat123: try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[21:22] <fxfitz> xtknight, Alright, well, I'll just try that then! :-D
[21:22] <cirkit> has anyone been able to change the Ubuntu icon that shows in the "Applications" menu by default? I want to change it to Tux ... I understand you have to change the "distributor-logo.png" file .. but there are several directories with this same file. Which one points to "Ubuntu" logo?
[21:22] <xtknight> fxfitz, i think that should do it
[21:22] <jvxr> i used the tools they have to install 8.04 on my laptop
[21:23] <s0ftmachine> I have ubuntu installed on my 2nd harddrive and I can't get it to boot. I just changed my harddrive boot order, and the os shows up in grub, but then tells me "no such partition" when I go to boot it...does anyone have any idea what is going on here?
[21:23] <jvxr> @﻿ BCBudLover83 ok
[21:23] <xtknight> xeer, i strongly recommend trying the chroot method, otherwise you may have to set environment variables to where you extracted the 32bit libs and everytihng
[21:23] <sp33dy> cirkit,  /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[21:23] <sp33dy> as far as i am aware
[21:24] <Lynet> Is anyone working on a package for open-vm-tools? I can't find it in the repositories (or perhaps it is under a different name?)
[21:25] <millertime_018> away...
[21:25] <sp33dy> millertime_018, you fix it?
[21:25] <sp33dy> the workaround I gave you seems to work on practically every sysyem running compiz-fusion
[21:25] <millertime_018> no you didnt tell me how
[21:26] <sp33dy> i did
[21:26] <fxfitz> xtknight, Hmm. It gave me something like: This is the contents of the device map /media/sda1/boot/grub/device.map. Check if its correct and run again
[21:26] <xtknight> xeer, if you realy want to extract 32bit python debs then you can use "mc" (midnight commander, get it thru apt-get) or the far more clumsy method of "ar x filename.deb", tar xzvf data.tar.gz
[21:26] <sp33dy> millertime_018, also, you need to go to Settings -> Preferences -> Video -> Output modules
[21:26] <sp33dy> and select X11 Video Output.
[21:26] <fxfitz> xtknight, (fd0)  /dev/fd0      and       (hd0) /dev/sda
[21:26] <xeer> xtknight: nice, ty
[21:26] <fxfitz> xtknight, Should I just rerun it again?
[21:26] <zvacet>   s0ftmachine :   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=boot+two+drives
[21:26] <live2k4> anyone can tell me how to make ubuntu mount a ntfs usb drive ?
[21:26] <xtknight> fxfitz, try "sudo chroot /media/sda1" and then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" with no rootdir parameter
[21:27] <sp33dy> millertime_018, you got that?
[21:27] <xtknight> fxfitz, it might be fine as it was, if that was the only 'warning' it gave you.  but chroot is a good idea also
[21:27] <unop> Lynet, there is some indication of a merge with debian experimental, not sure if it has made it's way into the ubuntu repositories yet. http://merges.ubuntu.com/o/open-vm-tools/
[21:27] <Lynet> unop: Thanks.
[21:28] <alex> Hi!
[21:28] <fxfitz> xtknight, When I chroot, grub isn't installed so I can't use grub-install. It's telling me to use apt-get (but I don't have any internet when I'm using Knoppix for some reason)
[21:28] <plazia> If I currently have my windows system on a RAID 0 stripe and I boot from them. (I also have an IDE drive that Ubuntu is installed on) Ubuntu boots fine but I can't access the raid 0 stripe inside Ubuntu. is there some way to do this? do I need to load some sorta Nvidia raid driver module? or is it a boot time parameter thingy? (please don't tell me I have to recompile the kernel or something LOL)
[21:28] <amenado> live2k4-> try  sudo mount /dev/sdbX /mnt  -t ntfs-3g   where sdbX is where ever your usb ntfs partiton is
[21:28] <xtknight> fxfitz, oh that's odd.  well the previous command SHOULD have worked
[21:28] <xtknight> fxfitz, oh you might need to do sudo /usr/sbin/grub-install or something but i dont know if thisll do it
[21:28] <live2k4> how can i see were the drive is
[21:29] <xtknight> fxfitz, how did grub not get installed on your partition?
[21:29] <zzaappp> I'm running virtualbox on a ubuntu host, and the guest os is windowsxp.  I have a problem with using pptp vpn in windows:  it can never complete making the connection to the remote network
[21:29] <DriveTrax> Yo!
[21:29] <amenado> live2k4-> fdisk -l
[21:29] <fxfitz> xtknight, I don't know. When I did the install, it just kept syaing that GRUB wasn't instlaled
[21:29] <MrSteve> ?
[21:29] <live2k4> it dont showq up
[21:29] <SperMite> eh, is being a kde fan rather than liking gnome a crime? gesh
[21:29] <amenado> !who | live2k4
[21:29] <ubotu> live2k4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:30] <zzaappp> is it possible to make pptp work in windows when its a guest of ubuntu under virtualbox?
[21:30] <MrSteve> bazhang  ??
[21:30] <DarkAnt> i'm trying to get an svn server + apache + Trac ticketing system running on my mythbuntu box.  I followed this tutorial http://www.subversionary.org/howto/setting-up-a-subversion-server-on-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-server and everything seems to work except I can't get apache to prompt passwords. Instead i can just walk right into the track wiki and change things without logging in, which should not happen.
[21:31] <bluefoxx> is there a converter for flash to avi/mpg for linux?
[21:32] <fxfitz> xtknight, I was able to get internet, so I'm chrooting and using apt-get for grub now.
[21:32] <MrSteve> swf2... in windows
[21:32] <MrSteve> look ay SF
[21:32] <amenado> DarkAnt-> maybe you can try to clear the cache adn cookies of your browser first, shut it down, then start it again, then hit your web server
[21:32] <DarkAnt> yeah, i didn't try clearing out the cache
[21:32] <DarkAnt> i'll give that a shot
[21:32] <rowen> hello
[21:32] <MrSteve> hello
[21:33] <live2k4> amenado i ran the cammand but i get ero fuse: device not found try modprobe fuse
[21:33] <MrSteve> Hey.. man, I stuck the drive in, and the pc starts, and see it, but windows doesnt
[21:34] <DarkAnt> nope, still no password prompt
[21:34] <MrSteve> I go to use Unetbootin-under windows, and the prompt asks me for what drive to put the Ubuntu on
[21:34] <MrSteve> so.. it's stuck at c
[21:34] <live2k4> amenado madule fuse not founf
[21:34] <MrSteve> Now, I thought grub/or SuperGrub did this Auto Part/Format thing
[21:35] <cppnewbie> hey sup, just joined cos tomorrow i wanna install ubuntu( once again ) but wanna know more about which build i should choose, amd64 or x86. i obviously have an 64bit processor, just troubling myself concerning stuff like compatibility, efficiency and how to install ia32 libs for 32bit apps
[21:35] <DarkAnt> amenado: clearing the cache didn't work
[21:35] <jvxr> @﻿cppnewbie not worht the trouble
[21:35] <cppnewbie> or if i simply shouldnt bother and install 32bit build
[21:35] <amenado> live2k4-> what command you run?
[21:35] <live2k4> sudo mount /dev/sdbX /mnt  -t ntfs-3g
[21:35] <cppnewbie> jvxr: what do you suggest?
[21:36] <amenado> DarkAnt-> try it from another pc browser?
[21:36] <zzaappp> virtualbox users?
[21:36] <DarkAnt> amenado: that's what i've been doing.
[21:36] <jvxr> 64 bit is for high computation machines like large databases etc, use a x86 save ur hair
[21:36] <MrSteve> sorry.. just trying to install Ubuntu 7.10, hints.. needed
[21:36] <amenado> live2k4-> man, did you read what I said about sdbX ?  change it per your correct partition name
[21:36] <live2k4> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt  -t ntfs-3g
[21:36] <mikegriffin> jvxr: 64bit is for if you have more than 3gb of ram
[21:36] <spee3dy> MrSteve, what problems you got with the installation?
[21:36] <s_> mplayer shows an error video-out device ,any settings?
[21:36] <live2k4> yes i changed it
[21:37] <cppnewbie> mikegriffin: i have 4gigs :P
[21:37] <spee3dy> s_, you running compiz?
[21:37] <amenado> DarkAnt-> well i dont know. you have to dig up the installation readme file on that.
[21:37] <s_> yes
[21:37] <mikegriffin> cppnewbie: pae wastes your cpu
[21:37] <zvacet>   MrSteve :          http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[21:37] <MrSteve> spee3dy - well windows doesnt see the new HD, and Unetbootin, network, installer says WHAT drive to put it on.. c:  is the only choice
[21:37] <DarkAnt> curses...alright, thanks anyway :)
[21:37] <jvxr> yes I do know that.. what im tellgin is, there is no point in istting with 4g of ram where u have to hack a lot of stuff to get things wor
[21:37] <amenado> live2k4-> does yours have ntfs-3g support?
[21:37] <spee3dy> s_, you need to tell your video player to put output through X11
[21:37] <spee3dy> its a compiz issue
[21:37] <cppnewbie> mikegriffin: you also suggest i should just use 32bit for everyday use?
[21:38] <mikegriffin> cppnewbie: i dont see why not
[21:38] <s_> ok ill try tnx
[21:38] <live2k4> amenado yes
[21:38] <spee3dy> MrSteve, by default windows will not see the ubuntu partition
[21:38] <Viele-baeren> cu
[21:38] <MrSteve> spee3dy -- I read all about this Unetbootin, but no where it says to part/format a drive.  It says, in fact, that Grub/SuperGrub will do it
[21:38] <spee3dy> s_ Settings -> Preferences -> Video -> Output modules
[21:38] <spee3dy> and select X11 Video Output.
[21:38] <amenado> live2k4-> try   sudo mount /dev/sdbX /mnt -t ntfs-3g -o loop
[21:38] <GH-VAIO> hello, i needed help
[21:39] <amenado> !ask | GH-VAIO
[21:39] <ubotu> GH-VAIO: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:39] <live2k4> amenado ill try now
[21:39] <MrSteve> spee3dy windows doesn't see this new drive tho..?
[21:39] <GH-VAIO> make: *** [all] Error 1 <-- can seem to use make command in psyBNC directory
[21:39] <spee3dy> MrSteve,  have you created a partition on which you wish to install ubuntu, or are you trying to install on the same partition as windows?
[21:39] <MrSteve> New Hard drive second drive, slave
[21:39] <GH-VAIO> cant*
[21:39] <theuser1> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude) ........   i dont have any other runing. i have checked that in ksysguard too. what can i do ?
[21:39] <MrSteve> not parted, not formatted
[21:40] <mikegriffin> GH-VAIO: OS error code   1:  Operation not permitted
[21:40] <MrSteve> pristeen
[21:40] <MrSteve> right out of the plastic
[21:40] <spee3dy> MrSteve,  well, how are you going to install ubuntu if you haven't made a partition for it?
[21:40] <amenado> GH-VAIO-> paste the complete error in pastebin,
[21:40] <spee3dy> you can make a partition from within the live CD
[21:40] <julle> Can tell me a stable direct connect client ?
[21:40] <GH-VAIO> were is the paste bin
[21:40] <MrSteve> spee3dy - I read UnetBootin does the Part & format
[21:40] <live2k4> amenado: i just got a hole bunch of info
[21:40] <mikegriffin> GH-VAIO: http://pastebin.ca
[21:41] <cppnewbie> is it just my impression or the mirrors @ the site are somewhat slow?
[21:41] <amenado> live2k4-> paste it in pastebin the errors you are getting if any
[21:41] <Vasa> how can I EDIT menu.lst in GUI, with admin rights? (now not allow to save:()
[21:41] <cppnewbie> ive been constantly having a slow decrease in kb/s from many mirrors i tried to download
[21:41] <Starnestommy> Vasa: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:41] <amenado> Vasa gksudo gedit  menu.lst
[21:42] <fxfitz> xtknight, Hey do you know if I have to make my own grub.conf?
[21:42] <spee3dy> MrSteve, i dont know if that software is supported by ubuntu so i cant comment on that
[21:42] <Vasa> thanks
[21:42] <spee3dy> personall i wouldnt use it
[21:42] <spee3dy> *personally
[21:42] <live2k4> amenado: im typing from a windows pc
[21:42] <cppnewbie> 7.10 is the latest stable ubuntu release right?
[21:42] <zvacet> Vasa : gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:42] <theuser1> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude) ........   i dont have any other runing. i have checked that in ksysguard too. what can i do ?
[21:42] <zvacet> cppnewbie yes
[21:42] <cppnewbie> good
[21:42] <amenado> live2k4-> take your time, get the correct info
[21:42] <mikegriffin> cppnewbie: pm me?
[21:42] <cppnewbie> sure, if you dont mind
[21:42] <Starnestommy> cppnewbie: yes, although 8.04 will be released in a few days
[21:43] <cppnewbie> Starnestommy: upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 will require uninstall and install of new or there will be some kind of direct upgrade?
[21:43] <live2k4> amenado: fatal: module fuse not found
[21:43] <spee3dy> MrSteve,  is there a reason why you cant install Ubuntu from the live cd?
[21:43] <Starnestommy> cppnewbie: I think you'll be able to upgrade through the update manager
[21:44] <mikegriffin> cppnewbie: you would likely upgrade fine
[21:44] <MrSteve> spee3dy -- yes, No Burner
[21:44] <live2k4> amenado: fatal: erro running install cammand for fuse
[21:44] <zvacet> Vasa : sorry it is gksudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:44] <MrSteve> spee3dy --- http://howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora
[21:45] <MrSteve> spee3dy -- I downloaded the Generic UnetBootin
[21:45] <amenado> live2k4-> you dont seem to have the ntfs-3g support
[21:45] <spee3dy> MrSteve,  hah, well in that case... I dont know anything about the software you are using, i'm assuming most people here installed via the CD. I advise you check out google for more info on your problem
[21:45] <Bert_2> hi, is there a limit on the passphrase length of PGP or seahorse ?
[21:45] <mikegriffin> does anyone have a perferred imap gui client besides thunderbird?
[21:45] <MrSteve> spee3dy yes, well this is what I am doing .. and trying to install this Linux
[21:45] <live2k4> amenado: how do i get that
[21:45] <amenado> live2k4-> maybe reinstall ntfs-3g  package?
[21:45] <LebLinux> Hello, Can I upgrade from Gutsy to official Hardy (when its released) from the CD?
[21:46] <xtknight> fxfitz, your own menu.lst?
[21:46] <spee3dy> LebLinux,  you can use the update manager
[21:46] <amenado> live2k4-> i'd dont use ntfs  so i avoid it
[21:46] <zvacet> LebLinux from alternate CD yes!
[21:46] <live2k4> amenado: how do i do that
[21:46] <xtknight> fxfitz, um i dont really know how to do that besides chrooting and grub-install.  afaik it shoulda made a menu.lst ?
[21:46] <chimp> Hey, im having trouble with mebdibuntu atm, apt-get update didnt find it Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dis, and when i tried removing it from sources.list and readding it, for the gpg key it says, gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[21:46] <LebLinux> zvacet: alright, thanks, thanks spee3dy too.
[21:46] <live2k4> amenado: verry newbie
[21:46] <amenado> live2k4-> you have to google for info on this then..
[21:46] <plazia> If I currently have my windows system on a RAID 0 stripe and I boot from them. (I also have an IDE drive that Ubuntu is installed on) Ubuntu boots fine but I can't access the raid 0 stripe inside Ubuntu. is there some way to do this?
[21:46] <LebLinux> zvacet: advice to update from the update-manager or at boot time?
[21:46] <live2k4> amenado: thanks ill do that
[21:47] <fxfitz> xtknight, Hmm. That's weird because I did the grub-install but when Ir ebooted it gave me like a grub shell
[21:47] <MrSteve> plazia -- I think you can use raid on another distro
[21:47] <Ntemis> hello
[21:47] <Bert_2> hi, is there a limit on the passphrase length of PGP or seahorse ?
[21:47] <Ntemis> how i enable via unichrome pro direct rendering?
[21:48] <zvacet>  chimp       in terminal  wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[21:48] <zelle> Hi
[21:48] <Lynet> plazia: Depends on what kind of raid it is.
[21:48] <plazia> lymeca_, it's a raid 0 stripe
[21:48] <plazia> nvidia sata raid
[21:48] <Peanut> Ubuntu (7.10) Update Manager says there are new packages that I should upgrade to. But when I click to upgrade, it gives me a big warning about the packages not being authenticated, and that I should not upgrade - anyone seen similar?
[21:48] <chimp> zvacet: that is the command that prompted the previous gpg error
[21:48] <zvacet> LebLinux I prefer upgrade with altrnate CD but it is just me
[21:48] <LebLinux> oke thanks.
[21:48] <edemkrimea> can conky use its own window
[21:49] <chimp> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[21:49] <nkriz> hello all. can someone help me disable the internal speaker on my computer?
[21:49]  * spee3dy offers nkriz a hammer
[21:49] <chimp> nkriz: You could just open the computer and unplug it
[21:49] <plazia> nkriz, open the case. and unplug the header from the motherboard
[21:49] <Peanut> The packages in questin are avahi-autopid, avahi-daemon, libavahi-client3, libavahi-common-data, ... , libpoppler2, network-manager-gnome, poppler-utils
[21:49] <mikegriffin> nkriz: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[21:50] <zvacet> chimp maybe their server is down I don´t know of any other way to do it
[21:50] <nkriz> mikegriffin: is there anything else to that command? didn't do it
[21:50] <dontpanic> hi guys, im a total newbie with ubuntu and im having some difficulties installing a package for VLC media player
[21:51] <mikegriffin> nkriz: are you talking about beeps or full audio
[21:51] <Lynet> plazia: Hmm. As far as I know, that's a software raid (the nvidia windows driver does the raid thing). Wait a sec..
[21:51] <nkriz> full audio
[21:51] <zvacet> dontpanic what kind od difficulties?
[21:51] <dontpanic> i get an error message
[21:51] <dontpanic>  Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
[21:51] <dontpanic>  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable
[21:51] <dontpanic>  Depends: ttf-dejavu  but it is not installable
[21:51] <FloodBot2> dontpanic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <nkriz> i'm outputting to a stereo (building a jukebox), and i can't seem to get the darn thing to turn off
[21:51] <pcAngel> In gnome, no drag and drop-like things for applications seem to work.. is there something I should have installed/running that handles this?  for example, I can't drag applications out of my applications menu and on to my desktop, or in to avant-window-manager
[21:51] <mikegriffin> nkriz: stupid dell
[21:52] <plazia> Lynet, not totally sure. I thought it was hardware raid since there's some chipset thing that shows up after the bios.
[21:52] <xtknight> fxfitz, yeah i dont know if youll ever be able to install grub then
[21:52] <nkriz> not even a dell, refurbished office computer i think
[21:52] <xtknight> fxfitz, it just doesnt work on some peoples' pcs for some reason
[21:52] <xtknight> it's always worked on mine tho :\
[21:52] <plazia> and when windows xp was installed it saw the drives (during the partitioning phase) as one large volume.
[21:52] <MrSteve> plazia -- I came across that reading how to partition the disk for Ubuntu on the internet
[21:52] <xtknight> fxfitz, i suggest trying the latest ubuntu RC.  i had odd  issues with an older ubuntu build
[21:52] <xtknight> fxfitz, but i have to go away from keyboard now.  sorry.  but good luck
[21:52] <ankit> I have a question about the font in Gnome Terminal... The default monospaced font in Ubuntu looks great, but it looks really weird in Gnome Terminal... everywhere else it looks fine. Any idea as to what's wrong?
[21:52] <zvacet> dontpanic : system>admin<software sources<check all under ubuntu sortware and updates tab.Reload
[21:52] <Animortis> My ISP changes my IP from time to time. Is there a command line command that can show it to me from outside my router? ifconfig just shows my internal network ip address, not my live ip address.
[21:52] <MrSteve> plazia - yes, XP see those drives as one
[21:53] <pcAngel> plazia: look up a fakeraid ubuntu tutorial on google
[21:53] <dontpanic> ok thanks zvacet
[21:53] <mylifeisahighway> animortis: go to www.whatismyip.com
[21:53] <mikegriffin> Animortis: curl http://checkip.dyndns.org
[21:53] <nkriz> so unplug the header is my best bet? man i hate opening up the box. i just feel like i'm going to break something every time
[21:53] <Rolandito> hi
[21:53] <pcAngel> plazia: I had to do the same thing a few weeks ago, you'll have to manually install dmraid and do some configuration before running the ubuntu installer
[21:53] <Rolandito> i need help..
[21:53] <Rolandito> :)
[21:53] <MrSteve> plazia -- maybe need a Raid driver .. Raid controller under Linux..
[21:54] <zvacet> Rolandito say it
[21:54] <Gnea> Animortis: install the External Address addon for firefox, it will always display it
[21:54] <Rolandito> w8
[21:54] <plazia> MrSteve, pcAngel  Lynet right thanks for the advice. I'll have to look into this
[21:54] <MrSteve> plazia -- I am trying to find where I saw this .. for you.
[21:54] <MrSteve> :)
[21:54] <plazia> so I'll have to re-install ubuntu then?
[21:54] <Gnea> !ask | Rolandito
[21:54] <ubotu> Rolandito: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:54] <Rolandito> i've a problem to install neostats..
[21:54] <plazia> JOY :)
[21:54] <Gnea> Rolandito: no wait, you ask the question in full detail, then we answer.
[21:55] <Animortis> the curl method is the most effective. Thanks all.
[21:55] <Lynet> plazia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto  you probably need dmraid
[21:55] <Animortis> What I'm trying to do is make it easy to know my IP address so i can run an ftp server for backups at home.
[21:55] <nkriz> thanks all
[21:55] <Rolandito> Gnea i a noob user ubuntu
[21:55] <falso_> hello there
[21:55] <MrSteve> plazia -- https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/device-names.html
[21:56] <Gnea> Rolandito: not an excuse, it's a requirement to put as much detail as you can into the question.
[21:56] <pcAngel> In gnome, no drag and drop-like things for applications seem to work.. is there something I should have installed/running that handles this?  for example, I can't drag applications out of my applications menu and on to my desktop, or in to avant-window-manager
[21:56] <Gnea> Rolandito: otherwise, we can't help you effectively.
[21:56] <plazia> Lynet, MrSteve thanks I'll read both of those.
[21:56] <zvacet> Rolandito never mind just ask it clear then we can help you
[21:56] <mikegriffin> Animortis: curl method is easily scripted, the format has not changed in many years on that site
[21:56] <Rolandito> Gnea ok waiting
[21:56] <zelle> Does anybody know why on AMD-ATI site in release notes for Catalyst is marked the support for X1100 video card, but there are no any drivers for this card in the list of avalible drivers?
[21:56] <cppnewbie> im looking for drivers for my sound card before installing ubuntu (wanna be ready), and it seems there is no official driver for it, is there some kind of substitute or some kind of open source driver that can at least use its basic functions etc.?
[21:56] <cppnewbie> some generic kind of driver
[21:56] <floating> hI. i am trying to setup bandwidth limiter wondershaper,and i have a problem. i dont have a entry eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces. theres only 2 lines. auto lo and iface lo inet loopback ..i should add lines after the eth0(which isnt there)
[21:56] <mnemo> cppnewbie: have you tried booting the ubuntu live cd on the relevant machine?
[21:56] <spee3dy> cppnewbie,  generaly ubuntu will just work with sound
[21:57] <Lynet> plazia: No, you probably don't need to reinstall unless you want to boot Linux off the raid. If you just want to get access to the raid you need dmraid to find/activate the raid array and then you can mount it like any other partition.
[21:57] <MrSteve> the normal Ubuntu system provides only 20 devices for partitions, so you may not install on partitions higher than 20 unless you first manually create devices for those partitions.
[21:57] <zvacet> cppnewbie how can you install driver before you install os
[21:57] <cppnewbie> spee3dy: last time i did actually install it i just got some beeps from the pc speaker, sound didnt work
[21:57] <Rolandito> ohh
[21:57] <plazia> Lynet, oh kewl
[21:57] <Animortis> mikegriffin, Any advise on getting it to tell potential client PCs its own IP over the net?
[21:57] <cppnewbie> zvacet: im researching, im not in a rush here. wanna be ready for everything im gonna do after installing
[21:58] <zvacet> cppnewbie O.K.
[21:58] <spee3dy> cppnewbie,  try the live cd
[21:58] <scout_> i cant get the default gw to stick anywhere. i have tried adding ip route add default gw (ip) in /etc/network/interfaces and in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables and no luck, any ideas?
[21:58] <spee3dy> also, ubuntu has move along quickly
[21:58] <cppnewbie> spee3dy: okay, just gonna wait till the new i386 disc is downloaded
[21:58] <mikegriffin> Animortis: sign up for a dyndns.org account
[21:58] <spee3dy> cppnewbie,  also, alot of drivers are available from the ubuntu repos
[21:58] <Rolandito> tanks all
[21:59] <mikegriffin> Animortis: then install a client to keep it updated, then people can just hit Animortis.dyndns.org
[21:59] <MrSteve> plazia -- sda0, sda1
[21:59] <Rolandito> i find a solution on my problem
[21:59] <zvacet> Rolandito what for ?
[21:59] <Animortis> mikegriffin, ... Awsome. Thanks.
[21:59] <mikegriffin> Animortis: np
[21:59] <nikku> i need some help
[21:59] <Rolandito> i try install neostats
[21:59] <Rolandito> i 've a problem with lib perl
[21:59] <mylifeisahighway> has anyone else here had issues with nvidia display settings not sticking between reboots?
[22:00] <MrSteve> sdb0,sdb1 -- second drive omit the zero..
[22:00] <MrSteve> plazia -- scuzzy drives
[22:00] <F05517> can you guys point me to the 8.04 beta room?
[22:00] <dontpanic> thanks again zvacet looks like it worked
[22:00] <nikku> i want to make a web page... and now how to access it using ubuntu 7.10 server addition
[22:00] <mikegriffin> F05517: what do you need?
[22:00] <zvacet> dontpanic good
[22:00] <mikegriffin> nikku: install apache
[22:01] <nikku> already installed
[22:01] <F05517> i just want to marinate in some 8.04 speek
[22:01] <zionpsyfer> F05517: ubuntu+1
[22:01] <mikegriffin> nikku: can you 'curl http://localhost'
[22:01] <foo-nix> The ubuntu wiki is reporting the intel hda soundcard is supported, it is not as far as I noticed, a newer versions of alsa and alsa-drivers are required.
[22:01] <nikku> yep http
[22:01] <mikegriffin> nikku: what is your question
[22:01] <nikku> computer
[22:01] <nikku> how do i edit the web page?
[22:02] <plazia> MrSteve, so dmraid is just a package I install?
[22:02] <plazia> not a kernel module I load/
[22:02] <mikegriffin> nikku: #html
[22:02] <nikku> ??
[22:02] <plazia> ah seems I already have it installed
[22:02] <MrSteve> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[22:02] <mylifeisahighway> type "/join #html"
[22:02] <floating> how is my internet connected exactly. i dont have anything but "lo" setup in /etc/network/interfaces and i am still online
[22:02] <floating> with eth0
[22:03] <mikegriffin> floating: dhclient prolly hooks you up
[22:03] <mikegriffin> floating: it will try any interface
[22:03] <floating> theres no entry in that interfaces file ?
[22:03] <floating> ok, so setting up that wondershaper gets harder now .. hm
[22:04] <mikegriffin> floating: auto eth0
[22:04] <mikegriffin> floating: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:04] <MrSteve> http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/disk-partitioning.html
[22:04] <theuser1> how to check my partition for any kind of disk errors?
[22:05] <theuser1> how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?
[22:05] <MrSteve> plazia --- I am not so sure about raid stripe, or otherwise
[22:05] <floating> mikegriffin: i dont have those lines there. i have only 2 lines in the file : auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[22:05] <mikegriffin> uh huh
[22:06] <Vasa> hi, how can I check, whether intel speedstep works fine, and what package do you prefer if not?
[22:06] <zvacet> theuser1 with live CD type in terminal   fsck dev/hdax   x is number of partition you want to check
[22:07] <fxfitz> Can anyone please help me install grub?
[22:07] <gogeta> fxfitz supergrub live cd
[22:07] <MrSteve> plazia -- checking if both hard drives were being correctly detected on BIOS.
[22:07] <gogeta> fxfitz has menus easy
[22:08] <MrSteve> plazia -- set a partition on each disk and then set its type to Linux RAID. To do such, let’s first figure out which devices the disks got mapped to.
[22:08] <fxfitz> gogeta, Hmm. Is there another way? Just because I'm already on a liveCD and ready to go :-P
[22:08] <theuser1> zvacet Usage: fsck.ext3 [-panyrcdfvstDFSV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize]
[22:08] <theuser1>                 [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size]
[22:08] <theuser1>                 [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal]
[22:08] <theuser1>                 [-E extended-options] device
[22:08] <FloodBot2> theuser1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <gogeta> fxfitz it should install it for you if your installin ubuntu
[22:08] <zvacet> fxfitz .http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[22:08] <MrSteve> plazia  Type $ cat /proc/diskstats.
[22:08] <plazia> kk
[22:09] <fxfitz> zvacet, I've been using that page, but it doesn't work. For example, find command says File Not Found
[22:09] <MrSteve> plazia  To set up a partitition, run fdisk twice, each one for each disk and do the following:
[22:09] <MrSteve>  $ fdisk /dev/hdX
[22:10] <plazia> MrSteve, http://pastebin.com/d12938fe7
[22:10] <gogeta> fxfitz if your installing ubuntu it will install grub
[22:10] <MrSteve> plazia -- READ MORE.. here >> This is it!  ---http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/
[22:10] <zvacet> MrSteve you are right.My mistake!
[22:10] <fxfitz> gogeta, I'm installing Hardy, and it was unable to install Grub for some reason
[22:10] <MrSteve> k k k
[22:10] <fxfitz> gogeta, It never told me why. It just said it couldn't install grub.
[22:10] <MrSteve> ok
[22:10] <gogeta> fxfitz !beta
[22:10] <gogeta> !hardy
[22:10] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:11] <MrSteve> Just sorry it took me soooo long to find
[22:11] <plazia> MrSteve, thanks
[22:11] <Vasa> hi, how can I check, if intel speedstep works?
[22:11] <MrSteve> hope it helps u
[22:11] <fxfitz> gogeta, In there too. But when I asked for help with Grub, nobody answered me. And since it's strictly a grub problem right now, I thought this channel would be fine.
[22:11] <SpookyET> hi
[22:11] <SpookyET> Is  it safe to edit /etc/crontab by hand or do you have to use crontab -e ?
[22:11] <MrSteve> SuperGrub.. can
[22:11] <gogeta> fxfitz so install it yourself use superbrub
[22:11] <gogeta> fxfitz supergrub
[22:12] <gogeta> fxfitz it can be on anything from a cd to a 1.44 floppy
[22:12] <fxfitz> gogeta, Hmm. Alright. I was hoping command-line would be fine, since I"ve done it before. I just keep running into problems. :(
[22:12] <gogeta> fxfitz your using a beta thats why
[22:13] <zvacet> fxfitz :http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Common_Booting_Errors_and_Some_Possible
[22:13] <lakotajames> how do you make grub not automatically countdown into Ubuntu?
[22:13] <MrSteve> I think tha place I got Unetbootin was misleading when it said it would part and format my new second drive.  I think the drive has to be parted & formatted for winders first
[22:13] <spee3dy> lakin,  edit the grub.conf
[22:13] <oklinux> is ubuntu good ?
[22:13] <gogeta> lakotajames edit your menu.list
[22:13] <fxfitz> gogeta, I guess you're right. Thank you!
[22:13] <theuser1> how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?
[22:13] <J-Unit> has any1 succesfully played a nintendo 64 game under ubuntu wether thru a linux app or wine?
[22:13] <lakotajames> where is it?
[22:13] <MrSteve> yes, grub conf has a time - place to change it
[22:14] <zvacet> lakotajames do you want t oboot in other OS or you want more time for grub to stay?
[22:14] <gogeta> fxfitz i rember the beta of festy had grub issues and i ad to supergrub it
[22:14] <J-Unit> oklinux, ubuntu is good of course..
[22:14] <gogeta> fxfitlol
[22:14] <lakotajames> i want it to wait until i choose ubuntu or xp
[22:14] <oklinux> good can I run xfce in ubuntu then ?
[22:14] <MrSteve> looks... a bit, fed..Nope!
[22:14] <lakotajames> i don't want a countdown
[22:15] <gogeta>  lakotajames edit menu list and change the countdown
[22:15] <J-Unit> oklinux, ya u can xubuntu is the xfce version of ubuntu
[22:15] <gogeta>  lakotajames i beleve 0 = pff
[22:15] <gogeta> off
[22:15] <m0u5e> lakotajames: try setting the countdown to 0?
[22:15] <zvacet> lakotajames you can press esc button
[22:15] <theuser1> !!
[22:15] <MrSteve> gogetta knows this stuff like animal crackers
[22:15] <lakotajames> whee is the menu list file i need to edit
[22:15] <spee3dy> theuser1, chdsk?
[22:15] <spee3dy> chkdsk
[22:15] <theuser1> how
[22:15] <m0u5e> zvacet: he wants it to auto prompt without user intervention
[22:15] <theuser1> complete comand
[22:15] <spee3dy> or something similar
[22:16] <zvacet>  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:16] <gogeta> m0u5e you mean a auto boot?
[22:16] <gogeta> m0u5e that would be 1
[22:17] <m0u5e> gogeta: no i think he meant that he wanted grub to wait for user input, rather than default to ubuntu or XP
[22:17] <gogeta> m0u5e ah like the old one
[22:17] <gogeta> m0u5e i do beleve thers a option to revert it back
[22:17] <wizo> hey, how do i change so that ssh does not have strict host checking? i've tried editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config file so that stricthostconfig is set to ask.. but it still says that stricthostchecking is still on
[22:18] <gogeta> lakotajames but yes esc has the same effect
[22:18] <gogeta> lakotajames if you dont mind a key press
[22:18] <alastor666> bonne nuit l'irc ;)
[22:18] <lakotajames> yes, i want what m0u5e said
[22:19] <gogeta> lakotajames yea hitting esc does that
[22:19] <zvacet> lakotajames : find timeout line and there set number of seconds (like 10)
[22:19] <gogeta> zvacet i think timeout 0 = off
[22:19] <m0u5e> lakotajames: did you try setting it to 0?
[22:19] <J-Unit> is there any major difference between ubuntu 8.04 and 7.10?
[22:19] <lakotajames> i found timeout, it is set to ten.  I change that to zero to wait indefinitely?
[22:20] <wizo> anyonee?
[22:20] <theuser1> complete comand?
[22:20] <theuser1> how to check my partition for any kind of disk or data errors?
[22:20] <gogeta> J-Uni lts wubi built in
[22:20] <mhalcrow_home> I'm trying to install Hardy on a RAID that I just built w/ mdadm by hand. /dev/md0 is not showing up in the GUI installer; I am only getting the block devices. My RAID setup is non-trivial (I have a degraded RAID-5 that will become a non-degraded RAID-5 once I am done with the install). How can I install onto the RAID I already built at /dev/md0?
[22:20] <gogeta> J-Uni i havent looked at the rest yet
[22:20] <zvacet> gogeta : 10 for 10 sec to wait until it boot
[22:20] <m0u5e> theuser1: type "sudo touch /forcefsck" into the command line, it will check during next boot
[22:20] <gogeta> vacet lol yea i knoe that
[22:20] <oklinux> so there is no spyware or virus can damage linux ?
[22:20] <theuser1> m0u5e ok..
[22:20] <m0u5e> btw. does anyone know how to schedule /forcefsck with more parameters, and to have it check during shutdown rather than boot?
[22:20] <gogeta> zvacet i said 0 is off isnt it
[22:21] <dabbill> I am trying to get grub to boot my xp drive, but it just says starting up ...... and never boots
[22:21] <gogeta> zvacet no timeout
[22:21] <theuser1> m0u5e how to check now?
[22:21] <m0u5e> theuser1: reboot your computer :D
[22:21] <zvacet> gogeta yes it is but I didn´t undrstand him that way.Maybe my mistake
[22:22] <gogeta> zvacet he said he whants it to wait for his input
[22:22] <wizo> anyone knows how i can turn off strick checking?
[22:22] <theuser1> m0u5e that will check the linux os partition only. what if i want to see errors or fixed things? or any other partition?
[22:22] <Liquideath> hello
[22:22] <Bollinger> I have a dir with 14k files in it. How can i delete them all? rm * says Argument list too long?
[22:22] <mhalcrow_home> find . -exec rm -f {} \;
[22:22] <Bollinger> thanks
[22:22] <mhalcrow_home> Use with extreme caution
[22:22] <gogeta> theuser1for those fixes it best to use the nativ os checker
[22:22] <zvacet> gogeta then grun have to be visible for some period of time
[22:23] <gogeta> zvacet yep
[22:23] <m0u5e> theuser1: thats a good question... -_- ... well you could always unmount the partition you need to check, and run fsck on it
[22:23] <gogeta> zvacet no tmeout it will be vis untill he does something
[22:24] <theuser1> m0u5e how?
[22:24] <zvacet> gogeta it is like default to put it on 10 my is on 3
[22:24] <Crshman> hi all, is it possible to have 2 desktops on 2 screens rather than one single large stretched desktop?
[22:24] <dmsuperman> !dualhead | Crshman
[22:24] <ubotu> Crshman: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:24] <iclebyte> why does ubuntu have 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts? it just caused me 2 days of Java RMI pain.
[22:24] <gogeta> zvacet heh
[22:24] <MrSteve> cool, it's getting intrid.gz
[22:24] <dmsuperman> In short, yes, but you need to use a different method to output it
[22:24] <m0u5e> theuser1: make sure its not in use, and type umount
[22:24] <gogeta> zvacet i thinkm we hav are idea reversed
[22:24] <theuser1> m0u5e ok
[22:24] <gogeta> zvacet would 0 = inf timeout
[22:25] <zvacet> gogeta may be
[22:25] <MrSteve> brb, it asked me to reboot after a brief download in unetbootin
[22:25] <dabbill> I am trying to get grub to boot my xp drive, but it just says starting up ...... and never boots
[22:25] <ionutz_> what player can i use in Ubuntu Hardy ?
[22:25] <ionutz_> mp3
[22:25] <dmsuperman> dabbill, do you get the XP loading screen?
[22:25] <J-Unit> ionutz_, music player?
[22:25] <dabbill> dmsuperman, nope
[22:26] <gogeta> zvacet or would it just instaboot been a wile
[22:26] <zvacet> gogeta I never tried that and I don´t know
[22:26] <ionutz_> J-Unit,  yes ....xmms don't work
[22:26] <lakotajames> i need  it to wait for my input forever. so i set it to 0? wouldn't that make it boot ubuntu no matter what?
[22:26] <dabbill> dmsuperman, just goes to a black screen saying starting up......
[22:26] <gogeta> zvacet eh worse case he just edits it back
[22:26] <dmsuperman> Any errors?
[22:26] <J-Unit> ionutz_, i have no idea wat xmms is but do play mp3's u need to download the codec and u can use totem or rhythmbox to actually play them
[22:26] <AlohaCalifornia> I'm using the RaLink RT61 chipset based WiFi card. I currently can't get Ubuntu to connect to any AdHoc networks while regular access point netowkrs work.
[22:26] <Squawk> Hey fellas. Been playing about with wireshark today and this evening have found that every few seconds my box is pinging a particular ip. I have no idea how to go about isolating which process is initiating the pings. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I know that the ip address in question is actually a gateway onto my ISP's network as I was port scanning a friend ealier to check his firewall. It is not my gateway
[22:26] <zionpsyfer> iclebyte:  the loopback addy is there by default and it is possible that removing it will break some things.  windows' hosts file contains this as well iirc.
[22:26] <zvacet> gogeta yes
[22:26] <ferric84> I'm trying to network my 2 PCs so I can transfer files.  Samba works fine when using my wireless, but when I connect via ethernet, and configure the IPs, neither computer can ping each other.  is there anything I need to do here?
[22:27] <dmsuperman> dabbill, I was just going to suggest a screenshot, luckily i stopped myself ;) Type all the text that it says, verbatim
[22:27] <ferric84> I set the ips to be 192.168.0.100/101
[22:27] <dabbill> dmsuperman, do what?
[22:27] <lakotajames> gegeta and zvacet: i need  it to wait for my input forever. so i set it to 0? wouldn't that make it boot ubuntu no matter what?
[22:27] <dmsuperman> ferric84, are they both connected to the same router, or able to access each other through your network?
[22:28] <dmsuperman> dabbill, Anything that it says beside "Staring up...." will help us determine what's actually going on
[22:28] <ferric84> dmsuperman: yes.  However, I want to take them off the wireless network (i.e., router), and directly connect them
[22:28] <gogeta> lakotajames i beleve 0 = infinty but i have never tryed
[22:28] <lakotajames> ok. thanks.
[22:28] <dmsuperman> ferric84, For that you need a crossover cable, are you using one?
[22:28] <ferric84> dmsuperman: the router is too far away to run cables
[22:28] <iclebyte> zionpsyfer, any idea what it will break?...
[22:28] <ferric84> dmsuperman: yes
[22:28] <dabbill> dmsuperman, thats all it says on the screen nothing else comes up after i hit enter to load Windows XP from grub menu
[22:28] <PhatKat> Any ideas on how to reconfigure the sound in 8.04, Ubuntu no longer detects my audio device. But I it does show up in the hardware information.
[22:28] <lakotajames> I'll try that then
[22:28] <lakotajames> thanks again.
[22:28] <zvacet> lakotajames if that happened you will easy change that
[22:28] <lakotajames> ok.
[22:29] <dmsuperman> ferric84, Then I'm out of ideas haha...I never was able to get computers to make a connection just using a crossover cable
[22:29] <gogeta> lakotajames i found some info lets see
[22:29] <iclebyte> zionpsyfer, surely 127.0.0.1 is enough?
[22:29] <ferric84> dmsuperman: weird
[22:29] <dmsuperman> dabbill, Is it possible that your grub is pointing to the wrong partition for windows?
[22:29] <The_PHP_Jedi> Hello. How would I go about converting a .bin (with .cue) to an .iso (or directly the individual mp3's inside it)? bchunk doesn't seem to support mp3 exporting, and acetoneiso says the file isn't a valid iso...
[22:29] <dmsuperman> ferric84, yeah, but it was also using windows that I was trying, so who knows
[22:29] <Shepherd> Can anyone tell me how to activate my Headphone jack? it seems to be a common problem across a few linux distros..
[22:29] <forkmantis> if I install the 8.04 RC, will normal system upgrades eventually catch it up to the final release?
[22:29] <dmsuperman> ferric84, I always just used my extra router and connected the 2
[22:30] <dabbill> dmsuperman, pretty sure its pointing to the right partition.
[22:30] <dmsuperman> dabbill, What's your menu.lst say for windows XP? The whole portion, pastebin it
[22:30] <gogeta> lakotajames oh hear it is
[22:31] <gogeta> lakotajames tomeout -1
[22:31] <lakotajames> thanks
[22:31] <gogeta> lakotajames it will sit forever
[22:31] <gogeta> lakotajames untill you slect a os
[22:31] <lakotajames> thanks alot.
[22:31] <dabbill> dmsuperman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63778/
[22:31] <lakotajames> that is what i wanted
[22:32] <lakotajames> Bye.
[22:32] <gogeta> thats -1
[22:32] <lakotajames> ok
[22:32] <gogeta> :)
[22:32] <lakotajames> :)
[22:32] <Shepherd> Anyone know how to activate headphone jack in UBuntu on laptop?
[22:32] <FloodBot2> lakotajames: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <floating> hi. i need to add couple lines after my internet interface "eth0", but in /etc/network/interfaces there are only 2 lines. auto lo and iface lo inet loopback  <- is that normal ?
[22:33] <dmsuperman> dabbill, I knkow a lot of people that boot into windows need to remap the drives so that Windows is on hd0
[22:34] <dmsuperman> dabbill, Try adding this to your Windows section, just below the title:map (hd0)(hd1)
[22:34] <dmsuperman> map (hd1)(hd0)
[22:34] <gogeta> dmsuperman yea you pretty mutch have to or you get a hal.dll error
[22:34] <anteaya> i have been working with several different players for mov files, totem doesn't work for me, and vlc will not play the sound, so I found miro and was happy.  I tried to customize the miro gui and it froze and now totem has frozen up on me too.  What files or packages would both apps need to access that a problem would affect both of them?
[22:34] <gogeta> dabbill you pretty mucth have to windows hate anywhere but primary
[22:34] <dmsuperman> gogeta, Not me, it won't work unless mine is hd1...who knows why....although I've always had odd issues with grub and my hard drives
[22:35] <gogeta> dmsuperman yea i rember you dealing with hal.dll to
[22:35] <gogeta> :P
[22:35] <dmsuperman> haha
[22:35] <gogeta> dmsuperman acully if he has a recovery partation windows might be in hda1
[22:36] <zvacet>  floating: add lines   auto eth0  ans below that iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:36] <dmsuperman> gogeta, who knows, but I have to go soon and that usually does it :P
[22:36] <gogeta> dmsuperman you would not whant to mess with that
[22:36] <dmsuperman> gogeta, Wouldn't it only do it temporarily, then boot to recovery worst case scenario?
[22:36] <dabbill> dmsuperman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63779/   like this?
[22:37] <alexman> can anyone here tell me how to run neverwinter nights?
[22:37] <gogeta> dmsuperman no idea i neverbut pcs that way i always have a real cd
[22:37] <dmsuperman> dabbill, I had a second line, add both
[22:37] <ProN00b> i am adding usb disks and setting up raid on them, is there some garantee that the device names will always be the same ?
[22:37] <basso_> Hello!
[22:37] <dabbill> dmsuperman, not getting what you mean
[22:37] <basso_> i need help with resetting plasma settings in KDE4 and restarting plasma
[22:38] <gogeta> ProN00b as long as you use the same usb port
[22:38] <dmsuperman> dabbill, I had a line to map hd0 to hd1, and one to map hd1 to hd0
[22:38] <zvacet> dabbill  put windows entry below ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[22:38] <dmsuperman> dabbill, Scroll up and see my message ;)
[22:38] <mintsoup> When I press ctrl-alt f1 to go to a that fullscreen console thing, or whenever my screen goes blank from being idle and I move the mouse, the display only shows a black screen with scrambled white lines and I have to restart x.org with ctrl-alt backspace... does anybody know if this is a known bug and if there is a fix?
[22:38] <dabbill> dmsuperman, ahh okay
[22:39] <gogeta> mintsoup probly a driver bug
[22:39] <spee3dy> mintsoup,  you need to look at your driver and hardware
[22:39] <spee3dy> google them
[22:39] <spee3dy> and look for known issues
[22:39] <alexman> how do you run neverwinter nights?????
[22:39] <gogeta> alexman ?
[22:39] <spee3dy> try wine, if fail, it wont work
[22:39] <dabbill> brb testing grub
[22:39] <gogeta> alexman thers a linux version
[22:39] <gogeta> spee3dy thers linux neverwinter
[22:40] <alexman> i know, but i dont want to register on the bioware website
[22:40] <ColdBeer> how to i install beryl?
[22:40] <ColdBeer> what the package name
[22:40] <dmsuperman> mintsoup, by the way, that "fullscreen console thing" is a TTY
[22:40] <serge4> when i try to install the kde4, i got the dependcy problem with kde4 kde4-amusements
[22:40] <gogeta> alexman pirate!!!
[22:40] <spee3dy> Godfather,  awesome
[22:40] <serge4> how to resolve dependecy problems.
[22:40] <alexman> ColdBeer: apt-get install beryl-manager
[22:40] <spee3dy> never knew
[22:40] <alexman> pirated version?
[22:40] <dmsuperman> gogeta, tsk tsk
[22:40] <alexman> i have the cds and everything
[22:40] <xomp> hi all
[22:40] <dmsuperman> gogeta, ;)
[22:40] <mintsoup> thanks 'p
[22:40] <alexman> i just need the linux binary
[22:40] <spee3dy> people stilll use beryl alexman ?
[22:40] <ProN00b> gogeta, even if i don't plug them in in order ?
[22:40] <spee3dy> isnt it dead in the water?
[22:40] <alexman> i use compiz
[22:41] <Animortis> Can I put a file in /etc/init.d, edit it with vi with a command and give it +x and expect it to run that command whenever I turn on my computer as long as my computer is on?
[22:41] <tracy> Hi there, I recently had some permissions errors on my home directory preventing login, after resolving them there is still an issue (Im thinking related) at login, Whenever i login most the gnome panel applets fail with error "The panel encountered a problem while loading 'OAFIID:$APPLET_NAME'" for each applet. Anyone got any ideas where to start off looking or heard of it before
[22:41] <Shepherd> uhh.. Anyone know how to activate HEADPHONE JACK in Ubuntu? I plug it in and nothing at all happens.. if I restart while it's plugged in it works fine though.
[22:41] <anteaya> i have been working with several different players for mov files, totem doesn't work for me, and vlc will not play the sound, so I found miro and was happy.  I tried to customize the miro gui and it froze and now totem has frozen up on me too.  What files or packages would both apps need to access that a problem would affect both of them?
[22:41] <xomp> could someone help a confused noob with awn install/setup? I've tried it in the past and it was a horrid affair to say the least. I have a new fresh install of Gutsy now :)
[22:42] <Animortis> and when I say +x, I mean chmod +x
[22:42] <dmsuperman> Well, I'm off. See you folks
[22:42] <alexman> Shepherd: go to switches in the volume cntrol panel
[22:42] <anteaya> Animortis: no it doesn't work like that
[22:42] <chtri> anyone with >= 4 gb of ram?
[22:42] <Animortis> anteaya, I want my PC to run a program on start every time it boots. How can I get it to do that?
[22:42] <anteaya> Animortis: there is a init.d skeleton file that you have to modify
[22:42] <anteaya> Animortis: i am trying to explain
[22:42] <spee3dy> Animortis,  you can use the sessions manager
[22:43] <Animortis> spee3dy, it has to have root privlages
[22:43] <alexman> where would i find the neverwinter nights linux binary file other than bioware???????????????/
[22:43] <eax> Hello :) I'm trying to get Acetoneiso 2 to run on Feisty. But it gives me this error: " symbol lookup error: acetoneiso2: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData7detach2Ev
[22:43] <eax> "
[22:43] <spee3dy> Animortis,  it can
[22:43] <eax> alexman: Fileplanet :)
[22:43] <alexman> fileplanet ok ill check that out
[22:43] <Animortis> anteaya, Please continue then.
[22:43] <Vasa> hi, I'm a newbie, i wanna enable intel speedstep
[22:43] <achadwick> Shepherd: I have to turn on the "headphone jack sense" on mine (as well as "External Amplifier" to hear anything): Open Volume Control > Edit > Preferences
[22:44] <SeaPhor> plz help, i am half way thru the installation, partition manager, i had 7.10 amd64 with seperate /home partition, am installing 7.10 32bit, dont see option to leave the /home /home
[22:44] <Vasa> I looked up in my cpu folder
[22:44] <anteaya> Animortis: i found this link helpful http://girasoli.org/?p=120
[22:44] <anteaya> Animortis, : and i will pastie my init.d modified file
[22:44] <anteaya> Animortis, : stand by
[22:44] <Vasa> and there were no cpufreq folder
[22:44] <zvacet> SeaPhor just don´t check it
[22:44] <bjwebb> !shipit
[22:44] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[22:44]  * bjwebb thinks ^^ is wrong
[22:45] <Animortis> anteaya, sure
[22:45] <eax> Can anyone helo me with Acetoneiso2? It refuses to run on Feisty giving me this error: " symbol lookup error: acetoneiso2: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData7detach2Ev
[22:45] <eax> "
[22:45] <SeaPhor> zvacet: will it put another default /home in the filesystem?
[22:45] <Shepherd> I had to remove the front speaker sound
[22:45] <SeaPhor> zvacet: in the / dir?
[22:45] <Shepherd> and headphone enabled automatically
[22:45] <alexman> fileplanet didnt work
[22:46] <SeaPhor> zvacet: do i delete the existing / partition?
[22:47] <zvacet> SeaPhor you will check partition you want to format and that will be root / and don´t touch home
[22:47] <earobinson> hey, anyone know of a simple tutorial to install web admin for trac on ubuntu (hardy), I cant seem to figure http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin out
[22:47] <zvacet> SeaPhor yes
[22:47] <cizra> Hey, what's the principal difference between Ubuntu, KUbuntu, Xubuntu and the rest?
[22:47] <cizra> Only the initial installation packages?
[22:47] <GIn> cizra: different UI
[22:47] <SeaPhor> zvacet: and then choose the empty space to install on?
[22:47] <earobinson> correct
[22:48] <earobinson> only what is installed cizra
[22:48] <zvacet> SeaPhor Yes if you don´t want dual boot two ubuntu versions
[22:48] <anteaya> Animortis, : http://pastie.caboo.se/183587
[22:48] <earobinson> guess not
[22:48] <cizra> GIn: S'pose I install Kubuntu, then want to switch to Xubuntu -- would it be enough to uninstall KDE stuff and install XFCE?
[22:48] <earobinson> :(
[22:48] <earobinson> yes cizra it would
[22:48] <amitprakash> hi.. i can use hciscan to find usb devices but how should i connet to one?
[22:49] <SeaPhor> zvacet: Thank you :-))
[22:49] <GIn> cizra: then you just install xfce, that's all
[22:49] <cizra> GIn: OK
[22:49] <Mike_L> Which should I install on my new AMD X2 PC? Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu JeOS, Xubuntu, UbuntuStudio, or Mythbuntu?
[22:49] <zvacet> cizra:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:49] <anteaya> Animortis, : the important thing is to run the command that sets up the modified init.d file in the rc.d directory
[22:49] <zvacet> SeaPhor np
[22:50] <anteaya> Animortis, : if you don't do that command, it won't run
[22:50] <cizra> zvacet: enlightening. Thanks.
[22:50] <anteaya> Animortis, : and you have to reboot (obviously) after it is configured
[22:50] <zvacet> cizra np
[22:50] <anteaya> Animortis, : good luck
[22:50] <Frozenball> Can you register a project to launchpad which doesn't allow redistribution with modifications.
[22:50] <xomp> anyone have a suggestion for a good dock program? The one with the least amount of bugs of course?
[22:51] <Animortis> anteaya, Er, thanks, I think.
[22:51] <gogeta> Frozenbal you fail at linux asking that
[22:51] <zvacet> Frozenball I don´t think so but you can ask on launchpad
[22:51] <Frozenball> I already registered my project
[22:52] <Frozenball> I'm going to change the licence soon so I don't see any problem
[22:52] <Alphageek_> I'm trying to install Kubuntu on an HP Pavilion, almost identical to mine which works flawlessly. It's got a PCI GeForce 7900 gs, and neither boot options work.
[22:52] <gogeta> Frozenbal when it gets blackballed out of linux you will
[22:52] <Alphageek_> Also, I have to pass noapic, or I'll get a kernel panic.
[22:52] <zvacet> Alphageek_ you can try with alternate CD
[22:53] <Alphageek_> I suppose, I was just hoping I wouldn't have to manually configure X.
[22:53] <Alphageek_> thanks.
[22:53] <anteaya> what libraries would both totem and miro access?
[22:54] <SeaPhor> zvacet: ok installing as we speak, kinda weird that i can talk here online while re-installing os on same system
[22:54] <mhalcrow_home> anteaya: install and do ldd
[22:54] <anteaya> mhalcrow_home, : thanks is "do ldd" the name of the second library?
[22:54] <zvacet> Alphageek_ I mean if that is only way out why not? I why do you think you will have to manualy configure x?
[22:55] <mhalcrow_home> ateaya: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ldd+1
[22:55] <nnck> I just installd kubuntu on ps3 using alternative cd and it says Ubuntu 7.10 localhost tty1 localhost login:  though i have not set any user name or password  how can I boot graphical interface?
[22:55] <arooni_> how do i open a .bin file?
[22:55] <Tara> Hello, I accidently installed gnome-panel and was wondering if anyone knew how to uninstall it?
[22:55] <anteaya> mhalcrow_home, : thank you, looking
[22:55] <Alphageek_> I was hoping to do it quickly is all, the guy has to take him computer home in an hour.
[22:55] <zvacet> nnck how did you install without username and password?
[22:56] <amitprakash> hi.. i can use hciscan to find usb devices but how should i connet to one?
[22:56] <nnck> zvacet because there was an error while installing I had to reboot and select install base system to be able to continue the installation
[22:57] <blbrown> is ubu heron out?
[22:57] <chtri> ubu he?
[22:58] <chtri> n yt
[22:58] <zvacet> nnck reinstall then
[22:58] <nnck> lol ok
[22:58] <nnck> thanks
[22:59] <ALPSINC> hi all, can anyone help me fix a samba problem?
[22:59] <ALPSINC> i can't access my shares on vista...
[22:59] <zvacet> nnck : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  and check disc for errors
[23:00] <kenan_> gogeta: it seems that adding acpi=off and apm=off did not fix the problem i had yesterday with shutting down. I shut down computer today from log in window and i still got the multibeep and the messed up monitor, so do you have any other ideas?
[23:01] <dabbill> dmsuperman, thanks that maping fixed it,
[23:01] <CarlCox> does ubuntu have the full source installed by default?
[23:02] <cM0ss> what does the boot command --nomsi do?
[23:02] <sjovan> CarlCox: what do you mean by full source?
[23:02] <dabbill> dmsuperman, how do i add a line so that my windows install will appear under a like like "Other operating systems"
[23:02] <CarlCox> sjefen6, im trying to pathc my wifi driver. and the instructions are like: ou will need to have your kernel headers and full source already installed on your system.
[23:03] <spee3dy> cM0ss, stops msi interupts
[23:03] <spee3dy> on the bus to the CPU
[23:03] <xomp> could someone please help me install AWN? I'm not having any luck with the hundreds of guides because this "KEY" file they want you to download for this repository is a big "404 NOT FOUND" now. Please?
[23:03] <ALPSINC> anyone?
[23:03] <sjovan> CarlCox: that doesn't look like a ubuntu guide... are you reading a ubuntu guide?
[23:03] <zvacet> dabbill :http://louboldt.com/ilinuxgrub.htm#xp1st
[23:04] <ng0n> need some advice.
[23:04] <CarlCox> sjovan im readinf aircrack0ng guide
[23:04] <cM0ss> spee3dy, thanks...that was the missing command to make Ubuntu install to my computer...been fighting it for nearly 2 months.
[23:04] <sjovan> CarlCox: try to finde a ubuntu guide. that would be much easyer i think :)
[23:04] <spee3dy> yeah it because of some small incompatibilty that causes the MSI interup to halt the installation by stopping the CPU from doing xyz
[23:05] <CarlCox> k sjoerd thx
[23:05] <spee3dy> with it disabled while installing you shouldnt have any problems
[23:05] <dell_> how do i install beryl manager?
[23:05] <cM0ss> spee3dy, I think that was with the Intel P-35 chipsets...
[23:05] <ng0n> do i have to re-install Ubuntu after doing MAJOR upgrade to computer (MB,dual core,etc.) ?
[23:05] <dell_> Can anyone tell me how to install beryl?
[23:06] <b4l74z4r> where is the codec location for mplayer in ubuntu?
[23:06] <zvacet> ng0n Try t orun it and you will see what you ned
[23:06] <dabbill> zvacet, i have grub setup and working correctly, just wanting to know how to add in a line so that it has like Linux distros and Windows OS
[23:06] <ng0n> won't boot.  wont  startx
[23:06] <nnck> if am using ps3 shall I enable bootable flag in ext3 root / partition?
[23:06] <ng0n> thus, video drives i would guess as i'm no pci-express
[23:07] <zvacet> dabbill that site is about that
[23:07] <Mike_L> is there anyone here who can fix the web server for releases.ubuntu.com to send proper expiration headers?
[23:08] <dell_> how do i install beryl, can anyone help?
[23:08] <gagedor> bonsoir aux membres de l' ARU2L connectés ;)
[23:08] <andrew_> I'm having a problem with my sound in in gutsy. I was screwing with shit to get my microphone to work, and then all programs that did anything with sound stopped working
[23:08] <andrew_> with a device unavailable or busy error
[23:08] <sjovan> CarlCox: btw... when you say patch the wifidriver. are you talking about useing windowsdriver for your card on ubuntu?
[23:08] <zvacet> dell_ beryl is past.try compiz
[23:08] <ng0n> unavailable
[23:08] <zvacet> ng0n Try t oreinstall grub
[23:08] <andrew_> I then tried several things, ending with deleting all my user configurations in order to undo anything I might have done
[23:08] <sjovan> dell_: compiz is installed by default in ubuntu 7.10 and newer
[23:08] <dell_> what is the package name?
[23:09] <ng0n> grub works
[23:09] <dell_> sjovan how do i install it?
[23:09] <andrew_> and then I reinstalled my alsa drivers after purging the system
[23:09] <spee3dy> dell_,  its already there
[23:09] <sjovan> dell_: as i said.... it's there allready!
[23:09] <dabbill> zvacet, all i see on this webpage is how to setup grub for the actual booting of the OS. I just want to add a line of text that says Windows OS, its not a line that is bootable.
[23:09] <zvacet> dell_ you will find it in synaptic and it is compiz
[23:09] <ng0n> it boots 'reair' mode
[23:09] <andrew_> I have no errors thrown, but when I try to play anything, I get no sound
[23:09] <ProN00b> can i somehow upgrade do kernel 2.6.24 ?
[23:09] <spee3dy> may not work by default though
[23:09] <spee3dy> unfortunatly
[23:09] <sjovan> dell_: what version are you running?
[23:09] <dell_> 8.0
[23:09] <andrew_> alsamixer shows nothing muted,
[23:10] <sjovan> dell_: 7.10 or 8.04 ?
[23:10] <dell_> sjovan 8.0
[23:10] <andrew_> it looks like everything should work, but I get no sound output
[23:10] <dell_> sjovan i have 8.0
[23:10] <sjovan> dell_: oh, yeah. the beta. my bad
[23:10] <dell_> yep i have beta
[23:10] <dell_> i need beryl,
[23:10] <dell_> please
[23:10] <ng0n> can i write the kernal i'm using now to HD ?
[23:10] <ng0n> that compiled from CD live.
[23:10] <zvacet> dabbill I´m not native English speaker so I don´t understand what you want to do.I give up!
[23:11] <sjovan> dell_: berly is outdated and you don't want that. you want to run compiz!
[23:11] <hmmhhh> vittu lol
[23:11] <Element031792> I was wondering if anyone could help me....
[23:11] <Element031792> For some reason...
[23:11] <alecwh> I'm using VNC to connect to a GNOME desktop with two monitors (duel screens). When I connect, I only see the primary screen, not the other one. My screens are both different X screens, I believe.
[23:11] <dabbill> zvacet, its okay hehe. I want to add just a line of text that displays on the grub menu, but doesnt do any thing other then just displays the text.
[23:11] <RoAkSoAx> !ask | Element031792
[23:11] <ubotu> Element031792: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:11] <andrew_> the only thing I can't seem to do is get modprobe snd- to work
[23:12] <sjovan> dell_: sudo apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager <--- you are running ubuntu right? not kde?
[23:12] <Element031792> My wireless internet keeps disconnecting randomly every so often and sometimes as much as every 10 seconds
[23:13] <Boopop> Hi all
[23:13] <sjovan> hi
[23:13] <Boopop> a little help with cp command in terminal?
[23:13] <Zeker> does anybody know hot to enable the desktop effect for the latest ubuntu?
[23:13] <sjovan> !aks | Boopop
[23:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:13] <Boopop> I'm trying to copy something to "Program Files" in my wine C druve
[23:13] <sjovan> !ask | Boopop
[23:13] <ubotu> Boopop: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:14] <Boopop> drive*
[23:14] <spee3dy> Zeker, system>preference>appearence
[23:14] <Boopop> ah ok
[23:14] <Boopop> !ask
[23:14] <gogeta> Zeker in apperance refrences
[23:14] <andrew_> recompiling alsa again...
[23:14] <gogeta> lol
[23:14] <Leetbumble> Sup all... just wondering if anyone was willing to share positive / negative results with the new distro seeing it is coming out in 5 days.
[23:15] <sjovan> Boopop: so what do you want to know? what is the question about the cp command? man cp <--- nice reading btw
[23:15] <ProN00b> does anyone know a good way to install the 2.4.24 kernel on 7.10 ?
[23:15] <gogeta> Leetbumble | !beta
[23:15] <Zeker> in the appearance section I enabled the higher visual effects, but there's no cube option
[23:15] <Boopop> Ok then. I'm trying to copy a folder from desktop to program files in my wine c drive, but I can't get there because it has a space in the path. Any help?
[23:15] <gogeta> Leetbumble | !herdy
[23:15] <gogeta> stupid bot
[23:15] <sjovan> lol
[23:15] <sjovan> !herdy | Leetbumble
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herdy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <spee3dy> Zeker,  you need th advanced visual efects
[23:15] <bbyever> Zeker: sudo apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager
[23:15] <spee3dy> and you need t install the gui confgi tool
[23:15] <sjovan> !beta | Leetbumble
[23:15] <ubotu> Leetbumble: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[23:15] <jussio1> !hardy
[23:15] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:16] <sjovan> ho ha ;D
[23:16] <ProN00b> whut, herdy out in 5 days ?!?!
[23:16] <Zeker> ok
[23:16] <CarlCox> how do i install kernel  source for ubuntu?
[23:16] <dkkong> !hardy
[23:16] <sjovan> !hardy | Leetbumble
[23:16] <ubotu> Leetbumble: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:16] <Boopop> anybody?
[23:16] <Zeker> it said "couldn't find gnome-compiz-manager
[23:17] <Gabyto> hi baby .... do you want brownse for me ?? xD
[23:17] <Zeker> maybe I mispelled it
[23:17] <sjovan> Boopop: 00:15 <sjovan> Boopop: so what do you want to know? what is the question about  the cp command? man cp <--- nice reading btw
[23:17] <CarlCox> how do i install kernel  source for ubuntu?
[23:17] <crdlb> bbyever: please don't suggest that people install gnome-compiz-manager
[23:17] <spee3dy> Zeker,
[23:17] <Boopop> How to I copy to a folder in terminal where the name has a space in it (ie "Program Files")
[23:17] <alexman> dangt
[23:17] <bbyever> Zeker: sorry this is the correct one sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:17] <spee3dy> use the add/remove programs tool Zeker
[23:17] <crdlb> it's very old and doesn't cooperate well with compiz fusion
[23:17] <spee3dy> look for compiz
[23:17] <alexman> how do you delete a directory?
[23:17] <spee3dy> its the top option
[23:18] <bbyever> crdlb: corrected it
[23:18] <gogeta> crdlb why i used it befor gives you alot more options
[23:18] <spee3dy> gogeta,  its old, and obsolete thats why
[23:18] <Zeker> what would be the preferred method, through apt-get or the add/remove section?
[23:18] <alexman> what command deletes a directory in ubuntu?
[23:18] <crdlb> gogeta: compizconfig-settings-manager gives you even more :)
[23:18] <spee3dy> Zeker,  same either way
[23:18] <gogeta> crdlb in fact i think you need it jut to get the cube
[23:18] <spee3dy> just do as i said
[23:18] <sjovan> !ask | Boopop
[23:18] <gogeta> crdlb oh
[23:18] <ubotu> Boopop: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:18] <sjovan> crdlb: what's wrong with gnome-compiz-manager?
[23:18] <sjovan> alexman: rm -R /path/to/dir <--- man rm is nice reading you know
[23:18] <steven0451> alexman, rmdir is the command
[23:18] <zvacet> Boopop right click on that you want to put in .wine folder and select copy and go to the home directory>view>show hidden files<.wine folder>C drive>paste it there
[23:19] <Zeker> spee3dy, the reason I ask is because I heard that one method enables the programs for automatic updates
[23:19] <prashant___> spee3dy: whats new then ?
[23:19] <gogeta> sjovan he knoes of a better one :)
[23:19] <Boopop> but it's restricted, so how do I do it? access denied
[23:19] <bbyever> Zeker: they both do it
[23:19] <Zeker> I forget if its apt-get or add/remove though
[23:19] <Zeker> oh ok
[23:19] <alexman> thank you
[23:19] <Boopop> that's why I was doing it in terminal because i had to sudo it
[23:19] <spee3dy> Zeker,  thats not true
[23:19] <spee3dy> just do as i said
[23:20] <prashant___> gogeta: do you know how to back  up installed packages to some disk
[23:20] <sjovan> Boopop: when you are in terminal and you want to type something with space, then you need to use \. example program\ files. btw... use tab for autocompleet. it's much easyer
[23:20] <steven0451> Can anyone explain the difference between the xchat and xchat-gnome packages? There doesn't seem to be much info on them
[23:20] <Zeker> ok
[23:20] <Zeker> thanks for the corrections guys
[23:20] <spee3dy> steven0451, the gnome one has a slighty differnet layout
[23:20] <Boopop> sjovan: Thanks :) I shall try that now
[23:20] <spee3dy> i prefer the normal one
[23:20] <sjovan> Boopop: then you have to get permissions with useing chmod or just sudo in front of the command
[23:20] <Zeker> its finished installing
[23:21] <gogeta> prashant___ installed?
[23:22] <prashant___> gogeta: yes i mean the one i downloaded with synaptic n add remove :)
[23:22] <zvacet> prashant_ :http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[23:22] <MystaMax> im trying to upgrade to hardy RC, but when I go to the update manager its not showing the upgrade. why is that????
[23:22] <gogeta> prashant___ ?
[23:22] <Boopop> sjovan: Thanks for that, helped a lot :)
[23:22] <gogeta> prashant___ that makes no sense
[23:23] <sjovan> Boopop: np :)
[23:23] <zvacet> MystaMax It will in few days
[23:23] <gogeta> prashant___ you can go into your apt cachie and grab all the debs that where downloaded for a packge and out them on a disk but backing them up after install
[23:23] <MystaMax> zvacet: Thanks, so no way to force it now?
[23:24] <gogeta> prashant___ means backing up the entire os
[23:24] <MystaMax> or does update-manager --devel-release work?
[23:24] <prashant___> gogeta: why so ? there should be some way that we dont have to download same packages again and again :s
[23:24] <gogeta> prashant___ you dont
[23:24] <SeaPhor> zvacet: done,,, did not use my seperate /home  directory, how do i get it back, it is sda6
[23:25] <gogeta> prashant___ once there installed that it
[23:25] <gogeta> prashant___ unless there updated
[23:25] <zvacet> MystaMax :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[23:25] <prashant___> gogeta:ok some other way out
[23:25] <prashant___> gogeta: b4 installing
[23:25] <daeg0003> ive never used this before but im having trouble getting my touchpad to work can anyone give me a direction to look into
[23:25] <gogeta> prashant___ areyou talking abought the live cd
[23:26] <prashant___> gogeta: no not at all
[23:26] <uppp> any one here know jin
[23:26] <MystaMax> zvacet: that looks good, thanks.
[23:26] <zicho> How can i check a package for errors and, if any, correct them?
[23:26] <zvacet> SeaPhor cat /etc/fstab and post it here
[23:26] <gogeta> prashant___ well you can grab the debs themself from apt that back them up onto a cd for a offline install
[23:26] <jake2point0> i shut windows down then brought my pc home.  power it back on , go thru the bootloader selecting windows xp, and the computer just reboots.
[23:26] <zicho> i accidentally removed my /bin/bash-file, and I need it back for obvoius reasons
[23:27] <gogeta> prashant___ if thats wht your trying to do
[23:27] <zvacet> MystaMax np
[23:27] <brad016> My desktop effects can't be enabled, how do I configure my graphics card driver, I'm on 8.04 RC
[23:27] <jake2point0> now im in ubuntu, tried to read the hard drive wit windows on it but it will not read... bios says it sees the hard drive... i dont see what to do.
[23:28] <prashant___> gogeta: i mean all this suppose u want to clean the whole thing and then install the os again :) at that time the back up would be a great thing.... or u end up every time hours of downloading
[23:28] <jake2point0>  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force
[23:28] <jake2point0> [sudo] password for jake:
[23:28] <jake2point0> Restart page buffer is invalid
[23:28] <gogeta> prashant___ ohhh
[23:28] <SeaPhor> !pastebin | SeaPhor
[23:28] <jake2point0> so is my hard drive bad?
[23:29] <zvacet> SeaPhor where is?
[23:29] <gogeta> prashant___  you make a root and home partation and only formt root
[23:29] <prashant___> gogeta: so tell me the exact location
[23:29] <gogeta> prashant___ anything in home would be uneffected
[23:29] <andrew_> I need help getting sound working
[23:30] <gogeta> prashant___ well i dont understand
[23:30] <prashant___> gogeta: haha its always home and usr that gets messed up!! i formatt them ( and formatting them is formatting everything)
[23:30] <SeaPhor> zvacet: sorry, didnt have shortcut to pastebin with fresh install,,, its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63784/
[23:30] <gogeta> prashant___ well thats your falt
[23:30] <prashant___> gogeta: i mean the exact location of packages
[23:30] <kevin--> is there a way to force the ubuntu installer to not mount a particular filesystem?
[23:30] <prashant___> gogeta: :( my fault ok what?
[23:31] <gogeta> prashant___ whont help on a upgrade
[23:31] <kevin--> every time i install, at the very end, it's mounting my debian root partition over /target and then trying to install packages in it
[23:31] <gogeta> prashant___ being all the pakcges would be newer
[23:31] <kevin--> during the 'configuring hardware' part
[23:31] <fxfitz> Whats the best way to get Ubuntu's gnome onto a server edition? sudo apt-get install gnome???
[23:31] <zvacet> SeaPhor changee /media/sdb6 to  /home and save file.Restart
[23:32] <JHansonJr> i think it is.
[23:32] <TheGreatArchitec> Question for folk regarding power management/idle time.
[23:32] <kevin--> fxfitz: how about apt-cache search gnome, then see which looks most appropriate?
[23:32] <SeaPhor> zvacet: please more specifc, i'm still a n00b
[23:32] <andrew_> needs moar sound. NEED HALP PLOX
[23:32] <johansja> does anyone here know whether google is using ubuntu or not?
[23:32] <TheGreatArchitec> Whenever I leave my comp for a bit Gnome quits to the login prompt and makes my monitor sleep. i want to avoid this. how do I go about it?
[23:32] <hmmhhh> vittu lol
[23:33] <JHansonJr> fxfitz: apt-get install gnome
[23:33] <andrew_> I'm doin it wrong
[23:33] <SeaPhor> Pelo: heya WB
[23:33] <fxfitz> JHansonJr, thanks!
[23:33] <Pelo> hey SeaPhor ,how's the wifi going ?
[23:33] <uppp> i want help to install jin applet
[23:33] <Pelo> uppp, what's holding you back ?
[23:34] <ordinateur> 0
[23:34] <uppp> Pelo how can i install it
[23:34] <SeaPhor> Pelo: just re-installed to 32 bit and am trying to get my /home on seperate partition back
[23:34] <Pelo> uppp, do you have a package for it ?
[23:34] <uppp> Pelo i have install java
[23:34] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone how how to use Lynx?
[23:34] <uppp> Pelo no
[23:34] <ChaosTheory^> In particular, I want to save my configuration file so I don't have to change my settings each time I use Lynx?
[23:34] <uppp> Pelo no i want your help to install it
[23:35] <Pelo> uppp, I don,t know what jin is,  don'T you have a guide or someting ?
[23:35] <SeaPhor> Pelo: hoping the wireless issue id related to the amd64
[23:35] <Pelo> SeaPhor, ok you'll need to add a line if fstab
[23:35] <prashant___> gogeta: like i installed gtk last time manually and lost everything and had to reinstall everything cause there was no possible way to get back desktop :( so i asked that cause when ever i have to experiment i will first back up debs. but can find debs ( i mean where is the apt-cache :( )
[23:35] <zicho> nhpow can i correct errors left by dpkg?
[23:35] <zvacet> SeaPhor sudo gedit /etc/fstab  and change name of partition from /media/sdb6 to /home  save file and close.After restart it should be like it was before
[23:35] <zicho> *how
[23:35] <insub> hi all
[23:35] <prashant___> *can't
[23:35] <uppp> i want help to install jin Apllet
[23:35] <Boopop> Hi again, Just tried installing steam, but after a restart I get the error "Cannot open blob file archive file:........." "Error 5 "Access denied"". Any help please?
[23:35] <Pelo> uppp, what is jin applet ?
[23:36] <SeaPhor> zvacet: cool, here goes, brb
[23:36] <uppp> Pelo www.google.com
[23:36] <Pelo> uppp,   you can do better then that
[23:36] <sjovan> !winehq | Boopop
[23:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winehq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:36] <nakitop> hello all!
[23:36] <Pelo> SeaPhor,  use this line and make the appropriate corrections   UUID=c3aaf2cb-1e2a-41a0-9ae1-7f10631bce5a /home ext3 defaults 0 2
[23:36] <sjovan> !wine | Boopop
[23:36] <ubotu> Boopop: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:37] <zvacet> Boopop you can try with wine-doors
[23:37] <daeg0003> how do i get help in here?
[23:37] <Boopop> wine-doors?
[23:37] <uppp> i want help
[23:37] <Pelo> uppp, ask better questions
[23:37] <amenado> !ask
[23:37] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:37] <J-Unit> what does wine doors do exactly?
[23:37] <Boopop> Yeah, what ^ asked :P
[23:37] <nakitop> please can anyone help me with wireless settings on ubuntu ?
[23:37] <ChaosTheory^> How do i save my Lynx settings?
[23:38] <zvacet> Boopop :http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[23:38] <sjovan> Boopop: ask on #winehq
[23:38] <daeg0003> can anyone help me get my touchpad working on my laptop?
[23:38] <Pelo> !touchpad | daeg0003
[23:38] <ubotu> daeg0003: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[23:39] <nakitop> please I need help about the D-Link G 122 C (rt73) wireless device on ubuntu
[23:39] <Pelo> !wifi | nakitop  start with this
[23:39] <ubotu> nakitop  start with this: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:40] <daeg0003> ubotu ive tried  looking at it but it still doesnt work
[23:40] <sjovan> !ask daeg0003
[23:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask daeg0003 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:40] <sjovan> !ask | daeg0003
[23:40] <ubotu> daeg0003: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:40] <nakitop> thank you very mouch ubotu
[23:40] <Pelo> daeg0003, ubotu is a bot
[23:40] <xouv> hi
[23:40] <nakitop> oops
[23:40] <Pelo> daeg0003, ok try this, got the , windows driver for it ?
[23:40] <sjovan> lol @ nakitop
[23:41] <Pelo> daeg0003, sorry forget it , wrong user
[23:41] <Pelo> daeg0003, try looking up your model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:41] <Pelo> daeg0003, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:41] <nakitop> lol @ sjovan  I hope to find help there... thanks! :-)
[23:41] <guja_nebeska> I've download a file and I dunno where Ubuntu placed it. How do I find path to that file? Thank You.
[23:41] <salah_> Does my kernel automaticly turn the CPU on half speed on IDLE?
[23:42] <SeaPhor> zvacet: Pelo: thank you, have to reboot from the 209 updates and to test the new fstab,,, back in a few (I hope, lol) Thanks again
[23:42] <zvacet> guja_nebeska how did you downloladed it
[23:42] <sjovan> guja_nebeska: downloaded what file and how did you download it?
[23:42] <Pelo> nakitop,  I gave you the link to the info that' sthe best I can do for you , I don'T know anyting about wifi ,  maybe i fyou are patient someone else will come that can help
[23:42] <daeg0003> sorry im new to this
[23:42] <guja_nebeska> zvacet, sjovan : sudo apt-get install libusb-0.1-4 libusb-dev linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[23:43] <prashant___> ﻿when i installed gtk last time manually and lost everything and had to reinstall everything cause there was no possible way to get back desktop :( so i asked that cause when ever i have to experiment i will first back up debs. but can find debs ( i mean where is the apt-cache :( )
[23:43] <Pelo> daeg0003,  I recommend you review the information and if there is someting in there you are not sure about , just ask and we will clarify
[23:43] <zvacet> guja_nebeska type in terminal       locate libusb-0.1-4  and rrepete it for every package
[23:43] <daeg0003> pelo, is there an option to get rid of all the  log of messages? im loosing our conversasion
[23:43] <sjovan> guja_nebeska: why do you want to locate it? any ways... ---> sudo slocate -u ---> locate filname will tell you
[23:44] <daeg0003> im using pidgin
[23:44] <The-Huge-Dahng> 5 days till the huge dahng has 8.04
[23:44] <Pelo> deadlock, xchat ?  right click the chanel tab on the bottom
[23:44] <Pelo> daeg0003, donT, knw about pidgin
[23:45] <Pelo> daeg0003, try asking in #pidgin
[23:45] <The-Huge-Dahng> guarana
[23:45] <The-Huge-Dahng> for guarini
[23:46] <ikerc0> nobody can help me to flash an 0xx with tftp on a redboot ?
[23:46] <sjovan> daeg0003: how can you loose it? don't stuff hilight in pidgin? anyways... you should be able to ignore what ever you want in a channel
[23:46] <Zeker> you know how the macs have the expose effect that minimizes all windows so you can click on the one you want?  is there a way to enable that in compiz?
[23:46] <Pelo> ikerc0, I don'T even know what that means
[23:46] <daeg0003> pelo, do you mean the laptop model or the touchpad model?
[23:47] <Pelo> Zeker, ask in #compiz
[23:47] <ccvp> lol
[23:47] <ccvp> "edubuntu"
[23:47] <ccvp> that is so sad
[23:47] <ikerc0> I'v a breacked fonera and i like to flash with Openwrt
[23:47] <ccvp> "edubuntu"
[23:47] <ccvp> heh
[23:47] <FloodBot2> ccvp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <Zeker> oh thank you pelo
[23:47] <ikerc0> iam on a serial cable
[23:47] <ccvp> ikerc0, did you offer some guarana to guarini?
[23:47] <Pelo> daeg0003,  I was assumig the touchpad was integrated but laptop if builtin touchpad if not
[23:48] <ccvp> Stat III final on thursday
[23:48]  * Pelo is toying wth the idea of driving up to montreal to attend the launch of hardy at the St-Sulpice
[23:48] <JohninLex> can anyone tell me what this means:   [ (apt-listchange:8816): libglade-warning could not find glade file apt-list changes/apt-listchanges.glade')  ]
[23:49] <ikerc0> guarana to garini ????
[23:49] <Pelo> ikerc0, ignore him
[23:49] <Animortis> Is there a way a program is initialized but does not appear in ps -A
[23:49] <ccvp> ikerc0, discrete choice modeling, and taguchi formulas
[23:49] <daeg0003> pelo, i found the synaptics touchpad in the xorg.conf file but it doesn't function. Ive installed these packages : tpconfig and gsynaptics
[23:49] <daeg0003> does that mean the drivers are installed?
[23:49] <Pelo> JohninLex, sounds like you need to update the repos list because apt can'T find the package youwant,   sudo apt-get update
[23:50] <Pelo> daeg0003, I realy don'T know , sorry it's not something I am familiar with
[23:50] <Pelo> deadlock, is this touchpad built in ?
[23:51] <Animortis> Let me rephrase: I have a program in /etc/init.d that will start and stop like any other script but it won't start when the system boots. Does anyone know why?
[23:51] <mosibfu> you didnt do the rc thing?
[23:51] <JohninLex> Thank you Pelo
[23:51] <Pelo> daeg0003, try this,  from the terminal run those two packages you installed I'M guessing they will ask for info to configure, try gsynaptic first it is probably graphical
[23:51] <JohninLex> update started and thank you again
[23:52] <Pelo> JohninLex, no problem , glad  I could help
[23:52] <Alex6691> hey im trying to install my logitech quickcam zoom but i dont know how to do it, any ideas?
[23:52] <RoAkSoAx> Animortis, i think you hae to do something like:  update-rc.d -n scriptname defaults
[23:52] <Pelo> !webcam | Alex6691
[23:52] <ubotu> Alex6691: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[23:52] <arizalord> hi!! can i install guitar hero III in ubuntu gutsy?
[23:52] <ikerc0> ccvp i don't understing your language
[23:53] <unop> Animortis, you need to enable the script to work.  see the update-rc.d manpage
[23:53] <Pelo> arizalord, is it a linux game ? no ? try asking in #winehq , maybe you can do it with wine
[23:53] <JohninLex> arizalord if you do can I have a copy
[23:53] <daeg0003> my touchpad is built in
[23:53] <Animortis> RoAkSoAx, unop thanks
[23:53] <daeg0003> winbook A710
[23:53] <Pelo> daeg0003, run gsynaptic form the terminal
[23:53] <dragoon> bs
[23:54] <arizalord> JohninLex, i have a copy... can you run GH3 with wine?
[23:54] <FluxD> Can anyone tell me how to connect to a fluxbox session using the nx client ?
[23:54] <Flyzoola> My screen resolution got messed up.. How can I fix it. I can't go any larger than 800x600 anymore >:/
[23:54] <JohninLex> if you tell me how to run gh3 I can have it in a few
[23:54] <Pelo> Flyzoola, what videocard ?
[23:54] <sjovan> arizalord: why don't you have a look on wine's hompage?! www.winehq.com , or even bether ---> appdb.winehq.com
[23:55] <CapaH> How can I create a wireless network using my laptop with Ubuntu ?
[23:55] <daeg0003> pelo, i cant i installed it with the package manager but the terminal spits back that it cant find 'gysnaptics'
[23:55] <zvacet> Flyzoola in terminal type          sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:55] <Lainy> Hello, in urxvt when I type alt+s, I get "scrollback search" but I want alt+s to open up a channel window in irssi. How do I disale this urxvt key binding? Thanks.
[23:55] <arizalord> thx sjovan
[23:55] <sjovan> arizalord: np
[23:55] <Pelo> daeg0003, check spelling
[23:56] <Flyzoola> zvacet. ok, now where do I check??
[23:56] <ubu2> 'ping ubu2
[23:56] <Pelo> Flyzoola,  before you reconfigure someitng major like X , mind telling me what video card you have ?
[23:57] <Flyzoola> Pelo, I don't know what video card I have. It had larger resoltion before, I don't know what happened
[23:57] <Pelo> Flyzoola, get out of the xserver reconfigureation bit
[23:57] <zvacet> Flyzoola I belive that you have to answer questions and you can take default intil you come to the screen esolution and then pick one you want
[23:57] <daeg0003> pelo, ok sorry i forgot the 's' at the end. it says i need to set SHMConfig to true. I already did this. do i need to reboot or logout to have the setting take effect to xorg.conf?
[23:57] <edemkrimea> :):):)
[23:57] <Pelo> Flyzoola, open a terminal  type gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf,   scroll down to the resolutions and add the ones you need manualy
[23:58] <Flyzoola> it's the stock video card on a hp Pavilion 304w
[23:58] <Pelo> daeg0003, you probably need to restart X , crtl alt backspace,  close all apps first
[23:58] <Pelo> Flyzoola, that might be a nvida or an ati card,  , check if you are using the restricted driver in the admin menu
[23:58] <daeg0003> pelo, ok ill try that
[23:59] <dekela> Hi People.. Is that the place to ask a Hardy question?
[23:59] <edemkrimea> bennybobw
[23:59] <Pelo> dekela, in #ubuntu+1
[23:59] <JohninLex> Pelo must be one of great knowledge
[23:59] <dekela> Thanks
[23:59] <shejuexi> 大家好
[23:59] <Pelo> JohninLex, not even remotely close