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homebrewciderI get a message saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver". Can someone help me please02:16
homebrewcidermmm, the first part of my message is missing02:16
homebrewciderI got a new video card, an Asus EN8800GT, tried installing new drivers from add/remove, tried installing drivers from nvidia web-site, when I try <sudo nvidia-settings> I get a message saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver". Can someone help me please02:18
mfewhat's the latest on gnash?02:35
mfestill in alpha testing?02:35
homebrewcideris ther any way I can nuke any attempts I've made to install this new video card and start again?02:38
BunnyRevolution!mp302:49
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Oathanybody around for some help :(05:34
Catoptromancyheh05:34
Catoptromancy!ask05:35
Catoptromancythis channel got smaller = (05:37
OathEvery time I boot up any live CD (tryed ubuntu, sabayon, suse, etc) It frezes up mid load. It stopped during "udevs" for sabayon, maybe the others but they didn't list what was happening during the load.05:37
OathHELP ME PLZ05:37
ere4siOath: is it a laptop you're using?05:43
Oathno, it is a desktop05:43
ere4siOath: how much system meory is there?05:44
ere4si*memory05:44
Oath2.5gb05:44
ere4siOath: with the xubuntu live cd you can press F6 at the start or install prompt - and at the end of the line that appears remove    quiet splash   and add   verbose   to see what's happening - it will help sort it out05:48
Oathalright, I'm going to try something I did not do before really qick first05:49
ere4sik05:49
chewitquick question, i have switched from ubuntu to xubuntu by install xubuntu from synaptic (i followed a tutorial). but i'm slightly concerned that i havn't completely switched. Because in system monitor, under the system tab. It says Gnome & Ubuntu 7.1006:17
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chewitis it meant like that xubuntu?06:19
zoredacheinstalling xubuntu doesn't install gnome.. all the know packages would still be present06:20
chewitso does your system monitor say the same as mine06:21
zoredachewhich page are you on?06:21
chewitsystem tab06:21
zoredachethe graphic too the left says gnome.  yes06:22
chewityeh, ok thanks06:22
chewiti was just concerned that i had not switched to xubuntu correctly.06:22
qwerku1hello all11:10
Stroganoffh11:11
qwerku1I have a problem with my 7.10 ubuntu notebook11:11
Stroganoffi11:11
qwerku1using HUGE memory eating softs like GMT, i reach pretty fast my hardware limits11:11
Stroganoffwhat is GMT?11:12
Stroganoffhow much ram do you have?11:12
qwerku1GMT = general mapping tools (to make maps)11:12
qwerku1may memory is 97811:12
qwerku1the problem is that when this limit is broken, the swapping mechanics start11:13
qwerku1wich slow down the whole lap for hours11:13
qwerku1isn't it possible to turn off swaping ?11:13
qwerku1(btw: here is the link to gmt: http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/)11:15
qwerku1(and here is an example of GMT achievement. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Deutschland_topo.jpg)11:16
TheSheepqwerku1: you can turn off swaping. then when you run out of memry, it will just crash11:17
qwerku1that's exactly what i m looking for11:18
qwerku1how do you achieve it ?11:18
TheSheepsudo swapoff -a11:18
qwerku1that's all ?11:18
TheSheepyes11:18
qwerku1are there some "risks" related to this ?11:19
qwerku1(eg my lap is going to blow up after a while ...)11:19
TheSheepit will start killing programs randomly when out of memory11:19
qwerku1even sys progs ?11:19
TheSheepif you just want to limit the memory usage of a single program, use ulimit11:19
qwerku1ahhh11:20
qwerku1that seems much better11:20
TheSheepyeah11:20
qwerku1you sure of the spelling ?11:20
simuhello11:20
simuhello, I just started my computer and after I logged on there is not application bar at the top11:20
simuI can see the desktop and its icons thought11:20
simuah I got it11:22
simuhick]11:22
TheSheepqwerku1: I'm not sure what options you should pass to ulimit11:23
TheSheepqwerku1: maybe google for it, the man page seems incomplete11:23
qwerku1no problem: I m chechking it out11:23
qwerku1thanks a lot for your help11:23
platyhelminth!lol12:34
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.12:34
ubuntuHello12:34
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platyhelminth!omg12:35
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.12:35
TheSheep!botabuse | platyhelminth12:35
ubotuplatyhelminth: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.12:35
platyhelminth!xfce12:35
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels12:35
Matti_AI'm running xubuntu live-cd on my laptop12:36
Matti_AAnd I can't get wlan to work12:36
TheSheepMatti_A: not much experience here, but there are some docs:12:36
TheSheep!wifi | Matti_A12:36
ubotuMatti_A: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:36
Matti_AThanks!12:37
floatingi have installed w32codecs but the stream(after ad) is not working: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=1929421&ch=1929421&src=deeurosport12:46
Stroganofffloating have you install mozilla-mplayer12:56
floatingill try install and see12:58
floatingi would prefer not to use mplayer to anything tho12:58
floatingi didnt have iti nstalled, i installed now but it didnt help13:01
floatingonly the ads play13:01
floatingwait!13:03
floatingnow it works :) thanks13:03
floatinghrrm, im just unable to do the things with it that i can in windows :( like putting it in full screen13:04
Stroganoffmozilla-mplayer should have a fullscreen feature13:05
floatingand i cannot adjust audio and is set to low13:05
Stroganofftry pressing F13:06
floatingnothing happens. the full screen button and audio tuning is grayed out on the panel13:06
Stroganoffmmh13:06
Stroganofftry asking in #mplayer13:06
floatingoki13:06
floatingthx13:07
Stroganoffor try mozilla-plugin-vlc13:07
floatinghmm, do i have to uninstall mozilla-mplayer first ?13:09
floatingi would really like to use vlc since i kinda chose it to my primary player anyway^^13:09
floatinghmm, i removed mozilla-mplayer and installed mozilla-plugin-vlc, but now it is back to square one :oI13:14
Stroganoffcheck about:plugins (in firefox) to see if the vlc plugin is loaded correctly13:17
floatingall is enabled that is listed13:19
Stroganoff,13:22
Stroganoffi dont know then13:22
Stroganofftry #mplayer or #vlc13:22
Stroganoffi'm not even on linux right now13:22
floatingi installed mozilla-mplayer back, and i can see that that one gives me more plugins than vlc one. also the stream comes back online with mplayer... so i leave the mplayer, and try to figure out how to get it full screen or smth13:24
Matti_A_Thanks for help!!13:31
Matti_A_Now wlan works just fine13:31
Matti_A_There is one last problem to be solved13:32
Matti_A_I need to change keyboard settings to finnish13:32
Matti_A_It now uses american setup13:32
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qwerku3hi14:14
qwerku3i have another weired problem:14:14
qwerku3how comes my Xorg pumps over 700MB ???14:14
solar_georgewhat exactly do you mean14:16
qwerku3well: I'm recurrently experiencing HUGE system slowdowns14:17
qwerku3so I checked memory usage14:17
qwerku3via top14:17
qwerku3and find out that Xorg reserves over 700MB14:17
solar_georgeweird - on my laptop it only takes ~60mb14:18
solar_georgewhat version are you running14:18
qwerku3sec14:19
qwerku3X Window System Version 1.3.014:20
qwerku3Release Date: 19 April 200714:20
qwerku3X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.314:20
qwerku3i guess this is the standart Xorg server for gutsy14:20
solar_george- I mean of ubuntu - but you've answered that now14:20
qwerku3digging further into my problem14:21
qwerku3I *think* it may be related to firefox14:21
solar_georgeis the flash plugin being used14:22
qwerku3if I kill firefox, memory reservation goes down to some 200MB14:22
qwerku3s14:22
qwerku3and as soon as I restart it14:22
qwerku3(blank page)14:22
qwerku3memory usage skyrockets14:22
solar_georgehmm running ffx does increase my mem useage but only by 20m14:23
solar_georgewhat graphics card are you using14:24
qwerku3i855gme14:24
qwerku3is it possible to set a memory limit to firefox ?14:24
TheSheepqwerku3: http://www.lifespy.com/2007/firefox-quick-tip-limit-ram-usage/14:25
solar_georgedo you have hardware accelerated graphics on that card?14:25
Stroganoffqwerku3 funny thing is: firefox3 (beta) has done much about mem consumption14:26
solar_georgeare you running lots of addons?14:27
qwerku3no14:27
qwerku3thanks for the link14:27
qwerku3but i don t have that option14:27
qwerku3running firefox 2.0.0.1114:28
solar_georgehow long have you had that install? is it uptodate14:28
qwerku3hehe14:29
qwerku3last sys update was about 3-4 months ago14:29
qwerku3I basically never update until i experience any major problem14:30
solar_georgemaybe you should update then14:30
qwerku3the thing i do not understand14:30
qwerku3is that firefox keeps memory usage under 150Mb most of the time14:31
qwerku3although Xorg seems to explode its consumptin14:31
TheSheepqwerku3: try installing and using xrestop14:31
solar_georgeare you using display compositing?14:32
qwerku3what is that14:32
TheSheepqwerku3: it shws which application uses how much of X resources14:32
qwerku3ok14:32
TheSheepqwerku3: you see, if an app allocates a bitmap, it counts of X's memory, not that application's14:32
qwerku3yup14:32
TheSheepqwerku3: as far as I know, firefox keeps whole pages as bitmaps14:32
qwerku3ouch14:33
qwerku3!14:33
TheSheepqwerku3: so if you have 8 tabs with long pages...14:33
qwerku3your app gives me:14:33
qwerku33600000   203   44    1 1920   83   281906K      8K 281915K  8260 about:config - Mozilla Firefox14:33
qwerku33600000   203   44    1 1920   83   281906K      8K 281915K  8260 about:config - Mozilla Firefox14:33
qwerku33600000   203   44    1 1920   83   281906K      8K 281915K  8260 about:config - Mozilla Firefox14:33
qwerku3(sry for the 2 posts)14:33
qwerku3281MB for a simple about:config page ???????14:34
solar_georgeodd maybe try installing the beta14:34
solar_george- of firefox14:34
TheSheepthey mostly fixed it in firefox314:34
TheSheepbut it depends on what addons you have installed14:35
qwerku31: fireftp14:36
qwerku32: foxcast14:36
qwerku3and that's all14:36
qwerku3ok: I think that thanks to your advices, the problem is related to firefox14:38
qwerku3I will try to install the beta14:38
solar_georgeif you're going to try ffx beta you must use backports14:38
solar_georgeto get a decent version14:38
qwerku3what about self compilation ?14:38
solar_georgeits best to use versions from ubuntu repos14:39
qwerku3which one should i use ?14:39
solar_georgeof what/14:40
solar_george?14:40
qwerku3repose to install beta14:40
qwerku3i mean repos14:40
solar_georgegutsy backports14:40
solar_georgeunder updates14:41
qwerku3ok: dowloading14:42
qwerku3...and another great victory for the xubuntu support team:14:45
qwerku34600000   104   88    1   72  104      275K      7K    283K  9026 about:config - Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 414:45
TheSheep:)14:46
solar_georgegreat14:46
qwerku3only thing missing: no anti-aliasing fonts under fx314:46
qwerku3do i have to set them manually ?14:46
jgamioa question just select the backport and the fire 3 is intalled ?14:46
TheSheepqwerku3: no, it should work14:46
TheSheepqwerku3: do you have antialiasing enabled in user interface settings?14:47
qwerku3yup14:47
qwerku3aa works on page content14:47
qwerku3but not in menus :(14:47
jgamioqwerku3 did you select backport to install fire 3 ? that s it ?14:49
qwerku3yes14:49
jgamioqwerku3 thank you14:50
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gkahlasilly question: does anyone else's screensaver just blank instead of using the selected 'saver?14:55
brynjolfanyone using composition under xfce4 with XFWM4 and ATI? I get inverted colors :S14:55
qwerku3there is an option14:55
qwerku3to invert colors14:55
brynjolfqwerku3: I cant find that option in Window manager tweaks, is it a cfg file?14:57
qwerku3don t know14:58
qwerku3last time I tried it14:58
qwerku3it was half a year ago with an nvidia card14:59
qwerku3...14:59
brynjolfah cant find anything on google, will take a deeper look though, thanks14:59
qwerku3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz#Community_plugins_.28Compiz_Fusion.2915:00
qwerku3it is a community plugin15:00
qwerku3called "negative"15:00
brynjolfAh well I wasnt't using Compiz but XFWM415:03
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x9xohh.. the xubuntu8.04 cd is smaller than 7.10! cool!15:52
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amerigomy xubuntu have no alias name... so i can't print (because it cannot see the printers)... any solutions?17:19
siggjeni'm not sure if i understand your problem, if you need network aliases you can look into /etc/hosts17:22
x9xwhat is aliases for?17:25
amerigothank you siggjen17:25
amerigo! games18:40
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php18:40
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Fraeon!ubotu20:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:06
FraeonIt took me 2 years to realize that ubotu is a portmanteau of ubuntu and bot20:07
FraeonI just realized it a minute ago :<20:07
TheSheepFraeon: you're a ntive speaker?20:20
FraeonYes, I speak Finnish natively20:20
FraeonNot much else, though20:21
AnnirakI'm trying to get a via Rhine based ethernet card working under ubuntu 7.10.  The makefile that came with the card is broken and I can't find the package I need.  Which package contains the Via Rhine driver?20:39
AnnirakI'm trying to get a via Rhine based ethernet card working under ubuntu 7.10.  The makefile that came with the card is broken and I can't find the package I need.  Which package contains the Via Rhine driver?20:45
TheSheep!repeat20:45
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience20:45
floatinghI. i am trying to setup bandwidth limiter wondershaper,and i have a problem. i dont have a entry eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces. theres only 2 lines. auto lo and iface lo inet loopback ..i should add lines after the eth0(which isnt there)21:57
gar1Hello!  how do i access my ntfs drive?22:19
FraeonCheck the /media/ folder22:21
gar1nothing there22:21
gar1no hard drives22:22
gar1i see them in /dev but i can't access them22:23
gar1they have a red x on thier icons22:23
gar1might be a permission prob22:26
gar1how do i log on as root?22:26
FraeonRight22:27

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