dopeis there a program that will text msg my phone upon new email and only send the subject of the email?00:05
markitushello everyone00:10
markitusi need some help with wireless bridge00:10
markitusanyone there?00:10
dopenobody is here00:13
markitusi see00:13
markitusand you dope?00:14
dopei'm not here either00:14
markitusand where are you?00:14
dopein the internet00:14
markitusanyway... can you help me with my problem?00:14
markitusi don't care if you're here, there or in the internet... :-P00:15
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)00:18
DNC_005damn i just found a good howto for viren00:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:19
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:24
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:24
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications00:24
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega00:25
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ubuntuboa noite a todos...00:43
ubuntualguem pode me ajudar com o kopete?00:43
maGare there channels for every country (need a german one), or only international?00:44
mwilliamsI have an error with Adept. I get this message00:44
mwilliamsAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).00:44
mwilliamsWould you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.00:44
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linuxguymarshallI know the command to fix it is something like "sudo dkpg configure --a" but im not sure00:45
maGbut there is not other apt-get window, installre or something like that? ^^00:46
maGbut "dpkg --configure -a" shoud be right00:47
linuxguymarshalli ran "sudo ksysguard" and killed all adept managers and no help00:47
maGmaybe "sudo dpkg --configure dpkg" could help00:48
linuxguymarshallsudo dpkg --configure -a  worked00:50
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fracnypost a link on how to install ati drivers on kubuntu please00:52
[maG]I only knew german ones :D00:52
rootlinuxusr#compiz-fusion ?00:52
rootlinuxusrumm, just look up what specific model number it is00:52
rootlinuxusrthen there hopefully should be a *nix driver for it.00:53
fracnyon kubuntu 8.04rc00:53
rootlinuxusrkay, look that up on the ati website, then you'll do something like ./lawlatipackagename buildpkg somethingsomething00:54
rootlinuxusrthey'd be able to fill in the blanks00:54
rootlinuxusrit's worth it, they got my x1270 to work =]00:54
fracnyso i look it up at ati dot com00:55
Fusaakihey guys, trying to install Kunbuntu (newest 64bit version) and having some problems... could anyone help?00:56
rootlinuxusr8.04rc or 7.10?00:56
rootlinuxusrdefine latest.00:56
rootlinuxusrwhat is your problem?00:57
Fusaakiit gets stuck at 50% on the scanning disk step00:57
rootlinuxusr7.10 installed fine on my amd64..00:57
FusaakiI have one hdd on sata and one on ide00:57
Fusaakiboth work in windows00:57
fracnyburn the disk ati 8x or slower00:57
fracnyburnthe setup disk at 8x or slower00:58
Fusaakiim also getting the error when I set it to nosplash so I can see00:58
Fusaakithe error is End _request : I/O error, dev fd0, sector 000:58
fracnyfd0 is your cd room00:59
fracnytry reburning the disk at a slower speed01:00
rootlinuxusrSounds like it's something wrong on the disc, it can't read a certain part, or mebbe the CD drive isn't fully plugged in?01:00
rootlinuxusrthough i doubt the latter.01:00
rootlinuxusror request one?01:00
rootlinuxusror you could do the option to check disc for errors at bootup01:00
Fusaakiill try that01:01
DarkestHourthere i go.01:10
fracnyhey rootlinuxusr where can i get help for hardy/fglrx01:11
rootlinuxusrtrying to get that installed so you can have the rotating cube?01:12
xenthral_I'll only use that when they have rotating hypnotoad01:13
DarkestHourxenthral_: that would be bad ass.01:14
DarkestHourAll Hail Hypnotoad!01:14
xenthral_its about time we get it01:14
xenthral_spam the developers!01:14
DarkestHourlol, not to go way off topic here but, you see the hypnotoad episode on the Benders Big Score DVD?01:15
xenthral_I know of it, but never seen it01:16
DarkestHourlol, me and a bunch of my friends sat through the entire episode. It was awesome, lol. 23-ish minutes long.01:17
xenthral_is it just hypnotoad, being hypnotoad?01:18
DarkestHourpretty much, they through in fake commercials and wierd moments and such.01:18
xenthral_gotta watch that some time01:19
xenthral_sounds like something to watch while wasted01:20
GrueTamerDarkestHour: nice name01:21
DarkestHourGrueTamer: Thanks, been using it for a long time.01:22
GrueTameri sense 80s vibes :>01:22
anabellei just installed kubuntu 8.04 RC101:22
DarkestHouractually started using back when i played Tribes 2.01:22
anabelleIM LOVING IT!01:22
anabellebut i have one question?01:23
xenthral_thats fortunate01:23
xenthral_you're only allowed one01:23
DarkestHourlol, whats your Question anabelle?01:23
anabellewill i get continuous updates from now on? or will i have to reinstall once the final release is out?01:23
DarkestHouryou will get the updates from now on01:24
anabelleso im oficially in hardy now :)01:24
anabellethank you!01:24
DarkestHourAt most there will be only minor changes between the RC now and the final release.01:24
DarkestHourand you'll get those through adept_manager01:24
DarkestHourNo problem.01:25
xenthral_man I hope the 7.10 -> 8.04 transition is less rocky then the 7.04 -> 7.10 one01:25
xenthral_cause I don't feel like reinstalling the whole system again01:25
DarkestHourlol, i messed with my 7.10 install so much that i had some wierd problems. i just said screw it and did a complete reinstall with the 8.04 rc01:26
xenthral_everything is Just Working right now01:26
xenthral_don't want to have to reconfigure stuff01:26
DarkestHourhopefully you should be fine. especially since there is no major kde version change for you to have to deal with.01:27
DarkestHouri switched to kde4 during 7.10 so i decided to just start off with the kubuntu remix this time.01:27
DarkestHourhmm, anyone know the command for the restricted driver manager?01:31
rootlinuxusrGot a question is there anyway to set it so my wifitester brings up all available wireless networks in the area? i don't it's part of the keyset...01:33
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DrUnKnMuNkYhey everyone i'm having some trouble with GRUB. i'm able to boot using the 2.6.24-12-server kernel but when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-16-server kernel I get an error 24 (Attempt to access block outside partition) and when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-15-server kernel I get an error 16 (Inconsistent file structure). e2fs says disk is clean. Any ideas what's wrong?01:44
dorkfaceHi all.  I'm having a problem with kubuntu crashing where if the laptop lid is closed for a while, and when it opens to a screen saver password prompt, it freezes hard.  I've tried looking in /var/log/messages, but I couldn't find anything referencing anything happening before the crash.  Are there any other logs that I could check?01:54
carlomagnoAfter upgrading to 7.10 I can't load gdm anymore (it won't recognise SVG files). I tried reinstalling the relevant libraries but to no avail, so I figured I'd try out kdm. Can anybody tell me how to set kdm as my default window manager from the command line? (I'm in recovery mode.) Is tehre some setting in /etc/X11/?01:54
xoqasupposedly there's a restore feature for konqueror's tabs after it crashes.. for kde 3, it's in kdeaddons and for kde 4, it's in extra gear... but i'm not seeing them... anyone know what to search for01:56
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xoqacarlomagno: i think you can set it as the default in your xorg.conf file01:57
carlomagnoxoqa, thanks. Somebody on #ubuntu suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm.01:57
xoqahmm.. not seeing it there01:57
xoqacarlomagno: ah, nice01:58
carlomagnoI'll try that. Cheers.01:58
martin_hallo dorkface, I noticed that the stand by modus doesnt works. so after going into the stand by modus, the computer doesn't wake up any more. Probably you have set you powermanager so, that he pushes the laptop into stand by (suspend) when you close the laptop lid... Try to change this01:59
crunchybumbleI'm new to KDE. Where in the GUI can I see whether the automatic install picked up my wireless card?02:02
dorkfacemartin_: I don't believe it is in sleep mode, it should just turn to a screen saver02:03
dorkfacebut, does it go to sleep after a while?02:03
xoqacrunchybumble: you should be able to right click on the kde network manager icon02:03
xoqait should tell you what connections you have02:04
xoqayou could just use dmesg though02:04
dorkfacemartin_: yeah, I checked power manager, and I have "Do Nothing" on "when Laptop Lid Is Closed"02:04
martin_dorkface: so its strange02:05
dorkfacemartin_: but I do have "Lock screen on resume" checked02:05
canen_is there a specific channel for people wanting to try the rc?02:05
crunchybumblehmm... it appears to have only picked up my ethernet ports02:05
dorkfacecanen_: kubuntu+!02:05
dorkfacecanen_: kubuntu+102:05
canen_dorkface: thanks02:06
DarkestHouryeah, i expect this channel would be the place canen_02:07
DarkestHouri use the RC myself right now.02:07
dorkfacecanen_: ubuntu+102:07
dorkfacehas people in it02:07
dorkfaceI checked02:07
crunchybumbleso, from googling around, it appears that I need to use the ndiswrapper to get my wireless card (Netgear WG311 v2) working02:08
canen_yeah, a lot02:08
crunchybumbleI've had no experience using this02:08
crunchybumblecan I just apt-get it, and it'll magically work?02:08
crunchybumbleiwconfig lists lo eth0 and eth1 as no wireless connections, the kubuntu network manager doesn't list lo02:11
bragoo08crunchybumble: you need to have "universe" enabled in adept manager to "apt-get" ndiswrapper!02:12
bragoo08cruncybumble: try http://www.mattweber.org/2005/22/using_dwl-g510_in_linux/ i now it's not the same wifi card, but it explains how to use ndiswrapper.02:19
crunchybumblethanks, I'll do that02:19
bragoo08no prob02:19
adudei downloaded the xubuntu desktop how do i run it?02:19
Odd-rationaleadude: log out and in the kdm sessions menu chose xfce02:21
DarkestHourHi there02:21
bragoo08crunchybumble: sorry, that url is old. goto http://www.mattweber.org/category/linux/ and scroll down.02:23
crunchybumbles'aite, I found it02:24
bragoo08crunchybumble: cool02:24
dennisterhey channel; anyone have any idea why a pc would simply refuse to boot from either of 2 installed cdroms?  always get a failure, no matter what livecd or alternatecd I insert into either drive02:39
stdincorrupted RAM maybe02:40
DarkestHourare you getting an error of any sort? or it just wont boot from the cd?02:40
crunchybumblesilly question, but you did make sure to burn them as images, not as data files, right?02:41
dennisterthe only error i get is "Failure"...this is at the bios level....nothing on the hdd yet02:41
DarkestHourDo you have your bios set to boot from CD drives?02:41
dennisterDarkestHour: yes, set to boot from cd drives,02:42
dennistercrunchybumble: these same cd's have installed OS onto previous machines02:42
DarkestHourit is possible those drives might have problems readings the disc's. I've had to use a seperate dvd-rom with my desktop pc for some reason. but after the install it worked fine.02:43
bragoo08dennister: how many cd drives do you have?02:43
crunchybumblemaybe burning media as well02:43
crunchybumbleare they older drives?02:43
dennisterstdin: ram gets counted properly, can't do memtest unless it will boot from livecd02:43
dennisterDarkestHour: i've already changed one drive for another that I know works well02:44
bragoo08dennister: it maybe only reading the master drive02:44
stdindennister: can't you remove the ram and put in some from another box, just to see if it is the ram?02:44
xoqaoi.. so... not seeing the 'svn' command in konsole...02:44
dennisterbragoo08: i have 2, one is plain cdrom; other is dvdrom02:44
xoqajust wondering what package it's in02:45
stdinxoqa: svn"02:45
stdinor subversion02:45
stdinadept/apt-cache would know02:45
dennisterstdin: yes, I can do that, as I do have toehr boxes here in earlier state of refurbishing,...i had just *never* seen this before...total refusal to boot from either of two optical drives02:45
stdinalso if you types "svn" and have command-not-found installed it would say02:46
bragoo08dennister: do you get "failure" twice or just once?02:46
DarkestHourdennister: you may want to try and do a bios update on the mother for that machine.02:46
stdindennister: does it even boot from hdd?02:46
DarkestHourdennister: err, motherboard02:46
xoqastdin: ah, i just ran a wrong command :| sorries02:46
dennisterbragoo08: i only get it once...make sure i put cd into master drive, and made sure I knew which one that was :)02:46
dennisterDarkestHour: yes, i was thinking of flashing bios :(02:47
bragoo08dennister: i'm guessing this is a p2 or p3 machine!02:47
dennisterstdin: can't boot from hdd...hdd is still blank...02:48
dennisteryes, this is a soyo mobo with P3 cpu02:48
stdindennister: test with another hdd ;)02:48
DarkestHourdennister: have you tried unplugging the hdd and seeing if it would then boot from the cd?02:48
dennisterok, haven't tried unplugging the hdd yet...was hoping to avoid flashing bios, so that's worth a shot02:49
xoqasomeone mind telling me what i'm doing wrong? http://dpaste.com/45881/ i was geting the 301 moved error with kdesvn as well02:49
bragoo08dennister: if your dvd is master then try swapping master to the cd drive!02:49
DarkestHouryeah, atleast try to elimate some points of potential failure.02:49
dennisterand yes, I have another smaller hdd for testing...sometimes when you get a wierd error it's good to simply ask if someone else has seen this before02:50
xoqasvn list gives an 301 moved error as well02:50
dennisterthis is a new one on me, lol02:50
dennisterbragoo08: both optical are on secondary ide, with cd as master, dvd as slave; on primary ide the 80g hdd is master, zip drive is slave02:51
DarkestHourwhat did you set the boot order to in bios?02:51
stdinI find it sometimes helps to just take it apart and put it back together again02:52
bragoo08dennister: unplug one drive at a time and try each one solo!02:52
dennisterDarkestHour: cdrom, A, C02:52
DarkestHouryeah, start unplugging things, lol02:52
foiblesis cafelinux down for some reason?02:52
foiblesdoes anyone know?02:52
stdinerror: A is not know, C is not known  ;)02:52
devin_how do i make compiz default in kubuntu"?02:53
stdin!compiz | devin_02:53
dennisterkinda strange, too, though...other boot sequence options include D...A...SCSI, E...A, SCSI...F...A...SCSI02:53
ubotudevin_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:53
dennisterdon't have any scsi, so...02:54
dennisterstdin: ??? i don't understand..."not known"?02:54
stdindennister: "Drive Letters" are a windows term02:55
dennisteryes, i know, but bios manufacturers still assume ur working with winblows02:55
bragoo08correction! drive letters are a DOS term02:56
dennisterbragoo08: ur right...touche02:56
stdinwell, dos is dead, so it's windows now02:56
bragoo08not here it isn't!02:56
stdinalthough you can get freedos, retro :)02:56
dennisterspent the last two days stuggling with a tecra8000...no livecd's would load, no linux would install...figured it was the cdrom drive, dirty or something...but it looks like winblows2k has just finished without a hitch :(02:58
bragoo08dennister: you have got be kidding!!!!!02:59
dennisternope...which i were02:59
dennisterso it's not the drive...02:59
bragoo08dennister: it's always the simplest things!02:59
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dennisterwell, i have nooooooooo idea why w2k will install, but knoppix, dsl, kubuntu alternate...nothing in linux will load/completely-install, live or otherwise03:00
nnckhi .. trying to install kubuntu on ps3 but the resolution does not fit on hdtv when I reached location step I couldnt continue clicked alt ctrl f1 and now am at the command line what should I do?03:02
dennisterheck...the parts of kubuntu alternate that did load (framebuffer installation) always said the video memory was too low, but it has 256MB of ram03:02
DarkestHourdennister: i have a tecra8000 with the same problem.03:03
bragoo08dennister: some bios setups have a setting for either "dos system" or "unix".03:03
carlos_que hablan03:03
carlos_no entiendo03:03
dennisterDarkestHour: heheheh...have you managed anything with the tecra? some people have done it, u know03:03
stdin!es | carlos_03:04
ubotucarlos_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:04
BluesKajdennister, , hardware recognition problem maybe. I encountered a similar prob with some linuxes on this pc (compaq presario 1734x), pretty ordinary pc03:04
dennisterbragoo08: maybe I'll look for that feature from now on...although the stuff i get donated is usually pretty standard03:05
stdincarlos_: go to #ubuntu-es, speak english or leave. those are your options03:06
BluesKajcarlos_, blahblahblah en espanol por favor03:06
dennisterthe donor of the tecra actually had wxp and ms office on it...but sloooooowwwwwww as molasses03:06
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BluesKajext3 partitions dennister ?03:06
DarkestHouri use the tecra8000 i have for cisco programming, lol.03:07
dennisterBluesKaj: that's what i was trying on the tecra laptop...lol...i've just heard the winblows music...did install from iso cd without a hitch03:07
BluesKajwell, an OS at least :)03:08
dennistermy, my, my...can't believe how fast/zippy w2k is on this tecra :)03:09
DarkestHourgive it a month, then the windows hardware tax kicks in.03:10
dennisteryes, have to have some kinw of OS...at least it doesn't have spyware like XP...what i was hoping to use this ancient laptop for was a dmonstration laptop, possibly showing how fast linux was on it...possibly a dual boot to compare speed between winblows and linux...can't even get linux installed, let aloone demonstrate speed03:14
steiniHello. I was wondering if someone was familiar with this bug http://s2.screenshots.cc/upload/a717fe91.jpg         I am using kubuntu 8.04 rc3 with compiz fusion and nvidia 8800 gt graphics card (drivers 169.12 i think :P)  95% of the top of a non selected window gets almost see-through or corrupt like this :(03:14
steinianyone know what it can be?03:14
dennisterDarkestHour: have you checked the forums for your tecra? there were some who had managed to get ubuntu installed on the tecra03:15
DarkestHourdennister: i havent, it hasnt been a real priority for me.03:15
dennisterwindows tax...you mean how much work it is to maintain it? this is an old copy I had from over 3 years ago...had retired that machine03:16
dennisterif that's what you mean, yes, I do hate all the work of maintaining it03:17
Jimmy1me AGAIN ;)03:17
Jimmy1any1 free to help with ark03:18
DarkestHourwhat seems to be the problem Jimmy1?03:18
Jimmy1i dloaded a *.rar file and it wont let me extract the file03:18
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Jimmy1says extraction operation failed03:18
dennisterbut here, i gotta reboot the tecra...will look around some more in bios to see if there's something funny going on, like not allowing anyone to install something on the mbr...bbs03:18
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DarkestHourdo you have unrar installed?03:19
dennisterbesides, winblows is not taking up the whole screen real estate03:19
Jimmy1umm i dloaded a rar program03:19
Jimmy1ill check which one it is03:19
iss_studentjoin #kbuntu-kde403:19
steiniiḿ sorry to ask again but has anyone have any information about this bug (compiz fusion)? http://s2.screenshots.cc/upload/a717fe91.jpg03:20
Jimmy1the program is called "rar"03:20
StroganoffJimmy1: sudo apt-get install unrar03:20
steinijust get unrar (non free worked better for me)03:20
Jimmy1E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:21
Jimmy1E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:21
Stroganoffsry my fault03:21
Jimmy1oh woops03:22
Stroganoffcant use synaptic/adept and apt-get at the same time03:22
Jimmy1i had apt thing open its working03:22
Jimmy1so should i remove that other rar program ?03:22
Stroganoffdepends on if you want to create/modify rar archives03:22
steiniunrar worked really well.. can use it in dolphin (on the right side it will say unrar or something like that)03:23
steinibut the free one did not work for me .. dont know why03:23
Jimmy1ok ill have another go now03:23
Jimmy1it seems to open in ARK03:25
Jimmy1i cant find where unrar was installed03:25
DarkestHourark should automatically use unrar03:25
Jimmy1i get the same problem03:25
steinihave no idea.. it is a console program so just click the rar file and it should say unrar in dolphin03:26
Jimmy1wont even work in dolphin03:27
DarkestHourmake sure you can run unrar in a console03:29
Jimmy1how do i do that03:29
DarkestHoureasiest way is, press ALT+F203:30
DarkestHourthen type in konsole03:30
DarkestHourand press enter, after that you can a console open, try entering the command unrar and press enter03:30
steinidid you get the non free version or the free one?03:30
Jimmy1yeh it works there03:31
Jimmy1i have no idea03:31
StargazerIm on Ubuntu 7.10 and im trying to get Flash working in Konqueror03:31
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:31
Jimmy1konqueror suks use firefoz03:32
Jimmy1works better03:32
StargazerI have it installed, but konqueror just doesn't seem to work right, youtube videos don't load03:32
Jimmy1yeh i had the same problem03:32
dennisteregads...this tecra is so fast i don't even have time to get into the bios...lol03:32
StargazerFirefox blows, it keeps crashing03:32
Jimmy1one of these guys would know03:33
Jimmy1im a noob03:33
Jimmy1anyway thanks guys for trying to get unrar working ! ill try again latter on03:33
dennisteranyone have an idea of a distro that I could get loaded/installed onto this tecra?03:34
StargazerUnrar ? just open the .rar file with Firefox and when it says "download this file.." use fileroller to open it03:34
steiniJust press the K->System->Adept Manager and search for unrar.. install unrarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)03:35
steinijust uninstall all the other rar things ;)03:35
steinidont confuse the computer03:36
StargazerLol y'all figure that out AFTER the guy leaves, lol03:36
steinihe went03:36
steiniits late over here and i got excited after fixing my problem from earlier (if someone checked that :P) i installed something called emerald03:36
steinihope that is good enough03:37
steiniatleast its working for now03:37
steiniI just started to use linux and iḿ in love :D Only know it from my xbox and you cant really do that much with it on there03:37
latituiam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)?03:43
narothepharohi am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?03:43
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linuxguymarshallI am having 3D problems03:45
nosrednaekimI prefer 2d problems03:45
nosrednaekim3d are just 3 times as hard ;)03:45
BluesKajlinuxguymarshall, which graphics card ?03:46
linuxguymarshallBluesKaj:NVIDIA 620003:46
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:46
linuxguymarshallBluesKaj: I just installed my drivers and now FlightGear, TORCS, and Blender will not even begin to boot03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:47
narothepharohi am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?03:48
BluesKajnarothepharoh, system settings/ desktop/ screen saver03:49
narothepharohblueskaj: it is not there but it is in settings screensaver preferances and they are all there its just when i pick one the screen will just go blank when its time to come on03:51
BluesKajlinuxguymarshall, not a nvidia user , but my crappy ati onboard does flightgear. It took some xorg editing and tweaking , so i'm sure some ppl here can help.03:51
carlos_buenas tardes03:53
carlos_como estan todos?03:53
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:53
BluesKajnarothepharoh, are you linking the screensaver to a  personal file with jpegs or one of the kubuntu options in the list ?03:54
latituiam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)?03:54
narothepharohblueskaj just using the options that are there03:56
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latitu if i dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz      , it will copy data including freespace too or just files ?04:05
narothepharohblueskaj just using the options that are there04:08
greeghi. i have a makefile for a one file program  whats wrong with line 3 http://rafb.net/p/uNz5zc39.html  ?04:09
dennisteromg...i think i finally got a live version loaded on the tecra...feather, with acpi=off and fbuffer04:11
dennisterthere's hope for the dual-booting demo tecra yet :)04:12
dennisterbut i'm falling asleep here...perhaps i will be usccessful with a hdd install using similar methods tomorrow :)...g'night all04:13
BluesKajyeah, sacktime for me as well04:14
latituhow to completely check a partition? ext304:19
ISS_StudentFinally after much tinkering I got KNetworkManager to show on taskbar in KDE404:21
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devin_can anyone tell me how to disable this feature. whatever window or tab my mouse hover over its selecting and its beyond annoying to me?04:50
PhilRodthat's the focus policy04:55
PhilRodit's set in, um, let me see04:55
PhilRodsystem settings -> window behaviour -> focus policy04:55
devin_got it thanks04:55
* PhilRod is considering switching to focus-follows-mouse04:55
PhilRodyou probably want click-to-focus (which is like what windows does)04:56
devin_well idk i just always bump my mouse and when im typing it messes me up04:56
ragsagaris kubuntu 8.04 is coming with kde 4??04:57
ragsagaranyone?? all are sleeping online??04:57
PhilRoddevin_: yeah, I suspect that would happen to me too - the advantage of focus-follows-mouse is that you can focus a window without raising it04:58
PhilRodbut the help on that page says it breaks Alt+Tab, which is too high a price to pay, for me at least04:58
PhilRod!patience | ragsagar04:58
uboturagsagar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:58
PhilRodhrm, that wasn't the one I wanted04:59
devin_did you try it?04:59
Dr_willisYou can get a Hardy KDE4 or kde3 isntall cd.  You can install both afterwards if you want.04:59
devin_man it drove me crazy04:59
Dr_willisfocus follows mouse - used to be real common ages ago.04:59
Dr_willisOld-skool window managers. :)05:00
ragsagariam asking abt the cd they ships!05:00
Dr_willisragsagar,  You mean the 'shipit' cd's - no idea on those.   I imagine they will be the kde3, or ubuntu. (they do have kubuntu shipit service?)05:01
devin_im just going to wait till KDE4 is officially out05:01
ragsagaryeah there is shipit service for kubuntu and edubuntu tooo05:02
devin_any of you using compiz-fusion on kde?05:03
ragsagariam not05:04
Dr_willisdevin_,  ive toyed with it.05:04
ragsagariam just using compiz05:04
ragsagarto use compiz fusion we have to rremove compiz first05:05
devin_me too but it just ran so much better on ubuntu05:05
Dr_willisI tend to disable it under gnome, or kde. its jsut more hassle then its worth05:06
ragsagarit is eating ma resource05:06
ragsagaras i have only 376mb ram05:07
ragsagarit is making my system too slow!05:07
devin_i suppose so after it loses its 'wow' factor but i haven't been on linux for a good while. things are defiantly improving05:08
ubotuKDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:10
tiberius1701hi i am running kubuntu 8.04 hardy, i enabled the propritay ati drivers, it show install the fglrx driver, but under system settings and monitor and display it show the vesa driver is this normal?05:10
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:10
tiberius1701hey if compiz is not installed and i enable desktop effects is that why i get a white screen after reboot?05:12
devin_more than likely05:13
* PhilRod wonders how or where you enable desktop effects if compiz isn't installed05:13
tiberius1701good that solves that problem, cuz i thought i had a problem with ati driver fglrx blah blah05:14
tiberius1701under system desktop effects05:14
* devin_ searching for Tums 05:16
ragsagar!desktop effects05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:16
Dr_willis!compiz | ragsagar05:17
uboturagsagar: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:17
Dr_willis:) and thats about it for the bot info on the topic05:18
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion05:18
ragsagarDr_willis,  wat was that for??05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about basero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:20
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micha__does someone know where kubuntu's shutdown config file lives /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc is the normal path but all the changes in here get ignored ...05:32
Dr_willisYou did restart the kdm service?05:32
micha__Dr_willis: yes but i can change whatever and it will not use the file05:33
Dr_willismicha__,  interesting.. ive never had that issue.05:33
Dr_williswhat are you changeing exactly?05:33
micha__Dr_willis: you could also use the system settings login manager and change log in wallpaper and so on but it doesnt use that05:35
Dr_willisHmm.. It does for me.. but all my machines are now hardy based. So i cant confirm/deny your issue. sorry.05:35
micha__Dr_willis: i have the problem that my box does not fully shut down if i use the gui ... sudo shutdown -PH now does work ...05:36
Dr_willismicha__,  i tend to use the halt, command from a terminal. :) as a 'cheat' you could make a 'shutdown' user, and make their shell be the proper shutdown command.   I did that ages ago. if i loged in as that user from kdm/shell/whever. shstem would shutdown.05:37
Dr_willisYou are saying that in the kdmrc configs the 2 lines....05:37
Dr_willisDo not propelry shutdown your machine eh?05:37
micha__exactly ... so i was hoping to find the config file and change /sbin/shutdown with /sbin/shutdown -Ph now ,,, since that is working in the terminal05:39
Dr_willisi dont even see 'shutdown' in there.. let me see05:39
Dr_willisi got poweroff and reboot. :) no shutdown05:39
Dr_willisI wonder how shutdown and poweroff, differ.05:40
micha__it's using poweroff ... poweroff doesnt work here shutdown does05:41
devin_can you run emerald without compiz?05:41
Dr_willisdevin_,  not really.05:41
Dr_willisemerald is one of the 3 window decorators that compiz can use.05:42
olllbut kubuntu is not reading that file ... GreetString=Welcome to Kubuntu at %n for example can be chaned but it does not get used on log in05:43
Dr_willisso micha__  youa re using      HaltCmd=/sbin/shutdown -PH05:43
olllolll = micha05:43
Dr_willisolll,  thers also 2 seperate kdm login screens, the fancy graphical one, and the simpiler one.05:44
olllsorry Dr_willis05:44
Dr_willisif using    HaltCmd=/sbin/shutdown -PH    --- Im wondering if it shouldent be    HaltCmd='/sbin/shutdown -PH'05:44
ollldo you know where the fancy one is05:44
Dr_willisfancy one is the default for a local X login, the simpiler oneis the default for xdmcp logins i recall05:45
olllfor some reasons the poweroff command does not fully shut down ... shutdown does05:45
yyyyyyyyyi made a desktop shortcut shutdown -Ph now that works as well but that is not the same f*cking internet here05:51
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Dr_willissounds like some apci quirk/issue going on , as the the reason the 2 commands differ.05:53
Dr_willisacpi  I think is  the proper term. :)05:53
micha11hmm that i don't like about *bunut ... they use strange config files sometimes05:54
Dr_willisadvanced power controll interface.  -  what happens if you hit alt-ctrl-delete from the kdm screen? :) that kicks my pc into shutdown mode.05:54
Dr_willisheck - i can just hit the power button and it will start shutting down.. the 2 yr old discovered THAT feature for me today05:54
Dr_willis'push the big button, and papa yells!'05:54
micha11Dr_willis: that works ... in fact i have to do so ... if i klick the gui button it will start to shut down and than i have to help with ctrl alt del05:55
Dr_willisheh. So if you make changes to the kdm settings with the GUI tool (as root/admin of course) the config file does change? or does it not even change?05:56
micha11Dr_willis: if i change the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file or system settings > login manager it does not change anything ... but the gui login manager writes to the file /etc/kde3/...05:58
Dr_willisHmm.. ok.. You are NOT using kdm4 are you? You never installed kde4 did you?05:59
* Dr_willis is just guessing at whats going no now. Im out of ideas05:59
micha11now Dr_willis i need to use this box kde4 is not for working ... not at the moment ... thanks anyway for your help ... ill keep searching06:01
DarkestHourwhat you talking about willis... sorry. had to.06:10
rootlinuxusranybody know where the file is that has the quote "#3) With great power comes great responsibility."06:10
DarkestHourseems like it would be something with sudo06:12
rootlinuxusrright, but i'm not all positive where the sudo command is located06:12
DarkestHourit's in /usr/bin/06:13
DarkestHourahh thats right, it's the message when you first use sudo, lol. man has it been a while.06:14
micha11it's config file is in /etc/sudoers06:14
DarkestHourman i'll tell you, hardy is great. especially with kde4.06:19
daSkreechDoes anyone have any links to the dapper cd06:24
p_quarlesdaSkreech, for kubuntu? isn't it on all of the main mirrors?06:24
daSkreechit's a DVD on the mirrors06:25
daSkreechno idea when that happened06:25
Dr_willisi wonder if some of the mirrors may have cleaned out stuff to make space.06:25
Guest87185hi I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm a total newbie and my kubuntu crashed during update06:26
Guest87185now it loads up to just a prompt06:26
daSkreechDr_willis: couldn't kill them to keep the torrent up06:26
daSkreechGuest87185: have you tried to start X ?06:27
TroggyIs this the right place to diagnose installation troubles with hardy?06:27
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu06:27
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eagles0513875does anyone know where i can find a list of kde pkgs that are needed for kde to run06:27
p_quarlesdaSkreech, umm, it's right there -- i'm not sure where you're looking06:27
daSkreechp_quarles: whoot thanks06:28
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p_quarlesdaSkreech, go up one directory (to "releases") to get to the kubuntu-specific directory06:28
TroggyI have weird random squashfs failures when trying to install hardy from the 8.04RC CDs (amd64)06:29
Dr_willisTroggy,  i would say start with checking the md5 of the iso image, if its good. burn it at the slowest speed your burner can handle.06:30
Troggymd5sums check out ok06:30
eagles0513875what kernel is going to be included in the release is it 2.6.2506:31
TroggyAt some point, the squashfs driver just seems to bail out and delivers gibberish06:31
TroggyThe installation reports a read error and aborts06:31
gnub_daemonI'm getting squashfs errors when trying to install mythbuntu06:32
TroggyI've burned the CD 4 times now, checked it, even tried to install plain ubuntu which worked fine...06:32
gnub_daemon8.04 as well...and shouldn't it be an official release by now...it is 04/08 already06:33
TroggyWell. of course it's an RC, that's why I'm trying to work out the cause so I can file a bug06:34
eagles0513875gnub_daemon it will be official on the 24th06:34
gnub_daemonah...thanks for the info06:35
eagles0513875gnub_daemon no prob if its reporting a read error there must be somethign wrong with ur burn06:35
gnub_daemonis that what buffer I/O error means?  It says unable to read fragment cache block/ page 83e1c and unable to execute /bin/sh for rc-default06:37
gnub_daemonwell I've got it checking integrity and have an alternate-iso DLing in the background06:42
gnub_daemonAHA...errors found in 8 files...06:43
TroggyReboot, check again ^^06:43
TroggyI sometimes get no errors when checking my CD, sometimes I get a whole lot, depending on when squashfs will crash06:43
gnub_daemonalready on it06:44
gnub_daemonI had problems with the latest iso of gparted also06:45
gnub_daemonjust kept scanning hardware...06:45
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DarkestHourI just finished install kubuntu on my friends machine here, i had set acpi=off on his machine just for the to stop locking up at the hardware abstraction layer.06:48
gnub_daemon9 errors this time Troggy06:49
Daisuke_Idoeither the cd has errors or it doesn't06:49
Daisuke_Idoif it's finding different errors every time, you should probably consider running memtest8606:49
TroggyI sometimes get 5 errors, then next boot none06:50
Dr_willisThat sounds.. bad06:50
Daisuke_IdoTroggy, you should probably consider memtest as well, this is not normal operation06:50
Dr_willisi wonder if it could be dust in the cd/fingerprints?06:50
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis, those would have to be some serious fingerprints.06:51
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  I have a Grandson... :) its amazing what he can get dirty06:51
Dr_willis'honey, how did the 2 yr old get handprints on the ceiling?'06:51
Dr_willis'dear im more worried about the Footprints on the ceiling!'06:52
gnub_daemonWell I installed Kubuntu on the same machine a few hours ago and it went fine...I just couldn't get dvd playback06:52
Daisuke_Idospider kid, spider kid, does whatever a spider kid does, can he swing from a web, no he can't, he's a kid...06:52
gnub_daemonand now I get 6 erroneous files06:52
Dr_willisgnub_daemon,  so to summarize.. you installed kubuntu, now on each boot up. it gives different errors?06:53
Daisuke_Idognub_daemon, i repeat, memtest8606:53
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis, different errors reading the livecd, and the md5 checked out06:53
Daisuke_Idois what i was understanding06:53
gnub_daemonno...I'm trying to install mythbuntu...I just get the same errors that Troggy was getting...It won't let me install06:53
Dr_willisI had an ide cable that got 'cut' from  the metal in the case once. you could barely see the one cut wire on the outside edge..06:53
TroggyI'm currently memtesting the machine just for the book (and filing a bug report while doing that)06:54
Daisuke_IdoTroggy, i would let it run for a while06:54
Daisuke_Idoif it were fingerprints or a scratch, you would expect the errors to come up at the same place each time06:55
Daisuke_Idoin this case, they aren't06:55
Daisuke_Idothat says to me, ide or ram issue06:55
TroggyI doubt it's the RAM though.06:55
Daisuke_Idoram's more likely, so check that first06:55
Daisuke_Idonapoleon doubted he'd lose, too.06:56
TroggyI just stressed the machine the other day to check if my cooling worked. An hour of prime95 should reveal RAM defects if there are any06:57
Daisuke_Idosomething isn't adding up here06:58
TroggyJust replaced the boxed cooler with something that doesn't sound like a 747 taking off06:58
Daisuke_Idoever think that something may have gotten damaged?06:58
Daisuke_Idoit's entirely possible06:58
TroggyThat's why I tested the sys06:59
Daisuke_Idoif i remember right, prime95 is a VERY rigorous stress test that could itself create problems06:59
Daisuke_Idoi'm just saying, look at all the possibilities07:00
Daisuke_Idoand try to launch the livecd on another machine, see if the same thing happens07:00
gnub_daemonnow I didn't think of that07:01
TroggyMemtest86 does only come as a 32bit app, doesn't it?07:05
devin_smells like skunk in my room =\07:06
Daisuke_IdoTroggy, yes07:06
Daisuke_Ido(here's a solution for >4gb - don't test it all at once!)07:07
TroggyOuch that would be a major operation07:07
Daisuke_Idohow much do you have?07:08
Troggy4x 1GB07:08
daSkreechp_quarles: thanks!07:08
Daisuke_Idotest 2 at a time07:08
TroggyBut my cooler's overlapping the RAMs so I'd have to take it off each time I change the sticks07:09
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Daisuke_Idoyour cooler is dissipating heat onto the ram07:10
gnub_daemonnot if the fan sucks air OUT of the heatsink07:11
TroggyIt's just the fan and it's not like it's making contact07:11
gnub_daemonor so I would presume07:11
* Daisuke_Ido headdesks07:11
Daisuke_Idoand you've been having these problems since changing HSF units?07:12
TroggyGot a 120mm fan blowing towards the back of the case07:12
* Dr_willis wonders how a fan can suck air in any other direction then out of the heatsinks.. :)07:12
TroggyNope, never had any problems until I decided I got bored of openSuSE07:12
Daisuke_Idoit's the livecd that has errors, right?07:13
Daisuke_Idoand different errors each time07:13
Daisuke_Idosometimes none07:13
TroggyWell, it's always the squashfs driver07:13
gnub_daemonsame way "the cd can either have errors or not have errors" ;)07:14
Daisuke_Idoso that's a yes.07:14
Dr_willisI would wonder what  would happen if you made a usb-installer/live cd on a thumb drive.. or swaped out the cd drive.07:14
Daisuke_Idoi'm putting 2:1 odds on it being ram, who's with me?07:14
gnub_daemonbut it could blow into the heatsink...mine seems to work better that way07:14
TroggyMine blows into the heatsink towards the back of the case (where another fan sucks the air out)07:15
Daisuke_Idoand that fan is mounted on the side of the heatsink closest to the front of the case - right above the ram07:16
TroggyWell, right above the first bank07:16
Daisuke_Idoso don't mess with the first bank07:17
Daisuke_Idopull 3 and 407:17
Daisuke_Idotest 1 and 207:17
Daisuke_Idoleave 1 alone, pull 2, add 3 and 4 (it'll do 3gb)07:17
Daisuke_Idoi'm still betting it's a ram issue07:17
Troggy25 minutes and no problem07:18
Daisuke_Idoor your processor has (had) a bent pin or two07:18
Daisuke_Idodon't laugh, i've seen it happen07:18
andrew_Is there any way to combat accidental touches on a touchpad?07:18
Daisuke_Idomachine works more or less fine, but there are occasional issues07:19
Daisuke_Idofound they were more prevalent in I/O07:19
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:21
TroggyKernel and drivers should be the same for ubuntu and kubuntu though, right?07:21
Daisuke_Idothe only difference is desktop environment and the included apps07:22
gnub_daemonandrew...there is a way...I can't recall how...but I think it was a package that I installed...you might check your favorite search engine or the ubuntu forums07:23
TroggyBecause as I said, Ubuntu installed just fine. Only difference was the availability of a DVD for ubuntu which I suppose doesn't need to compress using squashfs07:23
Daisuke_Idosee if it works well in another pc07:24
Daisuke_Idoif it doesn't, it's a disc issue07:25
Daisuke_Idoif it does, you do have a hardware issue07:25
tylerwhat is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?07:26
TroggyI don't have a spare machine where I can actually install a system but I guess a VM shold suffice for that07:26
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE07:28
gnub_daemonwhich is better...xfs or jfs?07:28
jussio1!best | gnub_daemon07:28
ubotugnub_daemon: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:28
Daisuke_Idognub_daemon, ext307:28
tylerwhere can i access my respitories in kubuntu?  It came installed when I installed Ubuntu?07:29
gnub_daemonthen what's your opinion...user for mythtv07:29
Jucatotyler: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories.07:29
Jucato!repositories | tyler07:29
ubotutyler: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories07:29
jussio1tyler: the program adept, inthe system menu07:30
tylerjussio1: I dont see that anywhere sorry07:30
tylerthis is hardy heron though07:31
jussio1tyler: go to the kmenu -> system -> adept07:31
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devin_how's hardy running?07:31
tylergood on my macbook07:31
jussio1Hardy help in #ubuntu+1 anyway :)07:31
tylerstill some drivers isues to be worked out07:31
linuxguymarshallCan I make Konquerer start a web page on start-up?07:32
Daisuke_Idosince konqueror is a web browser, i would imagine that would be possible, yes07:32
jussio1linuxguymarshall: yes, in the configure konqueror its there...07:32
tylerjussio1: Thanks I found it07:32
jussio1tyler: :)07:32
tylerDo you guys prefer gnome or kde?07:32
Odd-rationalelinuxguymarshall: open the page, then then go to to settings --> save view profiel "web browser"07:32
Daisuke_Idotyler, you're asking a biased audience07:33
linuxguymarshallI mean like when I log in Konquerer will start and open it's homepage07:33
jussio1tyler: thats really offtopic for here.07:33
Jucatolinuxguymarshall: yes. open the website you want it to start with. make sure it's the only tab open, then go to Settings -> Save View Profile (make sure you're saving the Web Browsing profile)07:33
Daisuke_Idoyou're going to get a strong slant toward KDE here (hence the channel name)07:33
Odd-rationalelinuxguymarshall: have it open when you log off07:33
jussio1linuxguymarshall: set the home page of konq, then set konq to start with !autostart07:33
gnub_daemoni prefer fluxbox...   O.o  o.O07:33
Odd-rationalelinuxguymarshall: assuming you have it set to save last session....07:34
gnub_daemonnot really though07:34
Troggy45 minutes with no errors, I'll call it for now.07:36
gnub_daemonthings seem to be going smoothly for me with the alternate-install07:37
gnub_daemonTHAT diskcheck turned up no errors at least07:38
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tyleri wanna install compiz fusion but its not showing up the the respitories....ALL OF THEM ARE ENABLED07:38
Daisuke_Idognub_daemon, that's good news07:38
Daisuke_Idotyler, well, did you update after enabling them?07:38
gnub_daemonindeed...I can't survive without my mythtv07:38
Daisuke_Idoand then, i dunno, sudo apt-get install compiz?07:38
ganapati_how to change boot list order??07:39
Daisuke_Idomight want to throw compizconfig-settings-manager in there too for advanced configuration07:39
gnub_daemonbig red screen saying there were errors installing sofware07:43
Dr_willis!info compiz07:43
ubotucompiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB07:43
Dr_williscompiz is in main.., if it cant be found.. somthing is really wrong07:43
gnub_daemonat least I got the base system installed...is there a good walkthrough for installing mythbuntu packages?07:47
gnub_daemonok...now I have no desktop environment07:50
Dr_willisthe mythbuntu homepage?07:51
ubotuMythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information07:51
Dr_willisI was thinking it was just installing mythbuntu-desktop :) wheni messed with it.07:51
fildoguys i have a sound issue if anyone is willing to help me07:52
gnub_daemonjust aks07:52
fildoive tried to work it out, but now im just stuck07:52
gnub_daemonthat's right...I said AKS07:52
jussio1fignew: ask away :)07:52
fildoi have onboard sound, and also a pci sblive card aswell07:52
fildoit been working , then all of a sudden it just stoped07:52
fildothe both load. but when i look in kmix07:53
fildoi have no mixers07:53
fildoand also no sound07:53
gnub_daemonhave you tried disabling the onboard sound in BIOS and see if that does anything?07:55
fildoyeah it is07:55
fildoi reaactived it aswell, but still nothing07:55
fildowhen i lspci07:56
fildothe card still come up07:56
gnub_daemonmight try to reinstall alsa or some such07:56
fildono errors in dmesg07:56
fildoi did that also07:56
fildon utils07:57
kubisthi there! could you help me please with my screen&resolution problem?07:58
gnub_daemonis this a dual boot bachine?07:58
jussio1fildo: I assume you covered the basics and checked the sound system is enabled07:59
fildostandalone kubuntu fiesty install07:59
gnub_daemonoh...I was going to suggest you try them in Windows...but that's not feasible07:59
jussio1!sound | fildo, maybe something here:07:59
ubotufildo, maybe something here:: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:59
fildoyeah i was going thru that before07:59
gnub_daemonor that08:00
kaminix^Hmm... I think Konqueror's stuck in some offline mode. I unloaded the default network modules and added my own, now Konqueror won't surf the web.08:00
eagles0513875kaminix^ r u on hardy08:02
kaminix^I am.08:02
eagles0513875 kaminix^08:03
eagles0513875have u tried rebooting the machine08:03
kaminix^No, but I will need it to load my own drivers instead of the default ones before that. Though I don't know where they're saved... (used insmod on a file this time)08:04
eagles0513875kaminix^ ok r u connected through a switch which is then connected to the modem08:04
kaminix^Well, a router, but yes.08:05
gnub_daemonsudo apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop is working btw08:05
eagles0513875kaminix^ try this try resetting the router. cuz i have been having some interesting issues connecting to a small switch im wondering if its something on my end or kubuntu end08:05
eagles0513875kaminix^ turn the power off wait 20 sec then back on08:05
tylerwhats the command to start compiz fusion for the first time08:06
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:06
kaminix^eagles0513875: Done that all of yesterday, apparently this is a quite known problem with ralink cards in ubuntu through the past three releases. Anyway, it's working now... in firefox apt and well, everything except konqueror and knetworkmanager08:06
eagles0513875kaminix^ i would file a bug against any pkgs ur having issues with08:07
eagles0513875speaking of i need to setup my laptop again and go back to bug fixing08:07
KetrelI installed ksynaptics (to stop accidental taps), but now I can't seem to scroll by sliding along the right edge of my touchpad. Is there any middleground?08:08
kaminix^There is already a bug report, solved this through the comments. Though I still don't know where make install put the driver and how I make it load instead of the default ones.08:08
gnub_daemonHUZZAH!   Mythbuntu desktop is loading!08:08
eagles0513875kaminix^ what u would have to do is black list the default driver08:08
eagles0513875kaminix^ thing is im not sure where it would be08:09
eagles0513875kaminix^ only place i am thinking is some where in /dev08:09
kaminix^eagles0513875: Then how do I make it load my new one instead? I know how to blacklist it, but that's pretty much all.08:09
kaminix^Isn't /dev just a device registry linking to the actual devices?08:09
eagles0513875kaminix^ im not sure if bout /dev but in regards to having it load ur driver u might wanna take a look at the init.d scripts for networking08:10
eagles0513875if anyone knows more to help kaminix^ feel free to but in and speak ur mind08:10
kaminix^eagles0513875: The readme says 'create(edit) 'ifcfg-ra0' file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/,' but I don't have any such folder. :/08:11
eagles0513875let me take a look at something on my linux machine08:12
eagles0513875kaminix^ i dotn have that folder either08:12
kaminix^Hmm... this is no fun. :p08:13
eagles0513875kaminix^for the longest time i had a headache of my broadcom wireless card as well as open gl on my ati08:13
kaminix^eagles0513875: Yeah, I've heard about the ATI troubles. Because of it I'm staying away from ATI upon buying my next machine. ^^08:15
eagles0513875kaminix^ u goign to be on for a while cuz i need to hop on my linux machine and get to setting that up again08:15
kaminix^I'll be on all day probably08:15
eagles0513875kaminix^ since gutsy has that restricted device manager its been heavenly even for my broadcom card08:15
eagles0513875kaminix^ have u checked in the restricted device manager08:16
kaminix^The RT2500 doesn't need restricted drivers though =/08:16
eagles0513875kaminix^ im wondering if the linux driver is just uber buggy and im wondering if a restricted driver might fix the solution08:17
eagles0513875ill brb on my linux box08:17
kubistcan anybody help? have some problem with resolution settings, picture of my desktop: http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fg4.jpg - have 1280x800 lcd screen, as you can see 1280x800 background, but the highest resolution to choose in settings is 1024x768 and indeed the windows only use that resolution...08:23
jonathan__kaminix: im back08:24
tylerI installed compiz fusion and i can see the effects and stuff but where can i change them....i go to desktop effects to try to change the settings and it says compiz-kde package isnt installed but i cant find that package using the respitories...compiz fusion is installed though08:25
monkeybritcheskubist: Have you tried reconfiguring your display?08:26
kubistyes i did all the basics08:26
eagles0513875kaminix: im back08:27
kaminixand gone again... O_o08:27
kubistmonkeybritches: have you any idea how can i get actually two resolutions at the same time?08:27
eagles0513875kaminix: had to change my nick this is my registered one08:27
monkeybritchesDid you try the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?08:28
eagles0513875kaminix: time to start downloadin the release client if its even out yet08:28
monkeybritchesTwo? Do you have a dual display?08:28
kubistmonkeybritches: did try that - do not have dual display (or at least do not know about it) :) but what i ment you can see on the picture i provided a link for above08:29
eagles0513875kaminix: out of curiosity are you on 32bit or 64bit08:30
kubistmonkeybritches: http://pastebin.com/m129a9f53 this is my xorg.conf08:30
gnub_daemonhmmm...no UPnP backends found when I run either the backend or the frontend...08:32
monkeybritchesYou can remove all the other resolutions except 1280x800 since that's native08:32
kubistmonkeybritches: that does not help, already tried08:34
eagles0513875!upnp | gnub_daemon08:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:35
eagles0513875!info upnp08:35
ubotuPackage upnp does not exist in gutsy08:35
monkeybritchesHave you installed 915resolution?08:36
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: try in #ubuntu+1 thats hardy support in there08:36
kubistmonkeybritches: 915 did not help, does not even support i965 - i have that08:39
sacha_silly intel powertop hasnt helped with my power consumption but froze my compter once instead08:40
iltechiewant to learn  bash from examples, howto index filessearching  in   system ,so searching words in files be quick as google?08:43
monkeybritcheskubist: Does your resolution come up as normal in the LiveCD?08:46
monkeybritchesiltechie: Try "grep pattern file(s)"08:47
monkeybritcheswith "| less"08:47
kubistmonkeybritches: no, but it did run once in correct 1280x800 as it started up in some kind of safe mode because i screwed up something...08:49
monkeybritchesPrior to Gutsy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked for me, beyond that, I can't say what might prevent you from getting native resolution.08:51
eagles0513875iltechie: try this www.google.com/linux it finds all sites pertaining to linux and filters out all the other stuff08:52
monkeybritchesBut it is strange that there's a blue background behind your desktop08:52
monkeybritchesI would think it should be either black or skewed08:52
kubistmonkeybritches: do you think that it is possible that it somehow tries to apply dual screens on one?08:53
iltechie eagles0513875: iltechie: try this www.google.com/linux it finds all sites pertaining to linux and filters out all the other stuff <<<< why should I do such a thing?08:54
monkeybritcheskubist: Each should be a separate device so it shouldn't08:54
kubistok, thank you for trying08:55
eagles0513875iltechie: i have found good links to online books that have all sorts of commands08:55
monkeybritcheskubist: You're welcome08:56
sacha_does anyone know what channel i would go in for intel powertop/latencytop help?08:57
kaminixeagles0513875: Hey.08:59
eagles0513875kaminix: whats up08:59
kaminixYou dissappeared .p08:59
eagles0513875kaminix: ive beenn in here u disappeared09:00
kaminixPossible :p09:00
eagles0513875kaminix: any luck at getting ur issue resolved permenetly09:00
kaminixI'm still trying to find the default module location and where my module went off too.09:00
eagles0513875im thinking of downloading and installing the rc09:00
eagles0513875and testing that out09:01
eagles0513875instead of updating bout 400 pkgs09:01
eagles0513875kaminix: are you on the beta or release client09:01
kaminixmodinfo rt2500.ko shows the thing I made09:01
monkeybritcheskubist: Try removing the "Virtual1280800" line from xorg.conf and see what happens09:01
kaminixFound the default drivers.09:02
kaminixMight solve the problem by just moving the .ko file in there... hrm...09:02
eagles0513875kaminix: might conflict with default but if u have default black listed it shouldnt be a problem09:02
kaminixThe defaults are blacklisted now :)09:03
gnub_daemonI can't get access to sql09:03
eagles0513875kaminix: throw it in there and see what happens:( hopefully u dont have any essential data on ur machine09:03
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: is the server pkg installed09:03
eagles0513875kaminix: im having a tough time getting my project started09:03
gnub_daemonI wouldn't know...apt-get install sql-server?09:04
kaminixeagles0513875: What project?09:04
eagles0513875type apt-cache search sql09:04
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: that will search for all sql pkgs in command line09:04
eagles0513875kaminix: im working on developing my own easy to use clustering distro thing is kde contains a decent amount of default fluff i dont need installed09:05
eagles0513875kaminix: im using kubuntu as the basis for my distro09:05
kaminixAh, cool. :)09:05
eagles0513875kaminix: take a look at www.beowulf.org09:05
kaminixHmm.... now when I used modinfo rt2500 it didn't show, even though I put it in the same directory :s09:06
gnub_daemonand I'm looking for "server"  or something like "ser-mysql-module"?09:06
eagles0513875run depmod -a09:06
gnub_daemoncause I see that09:07
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: sudo apt-get install mysql-server09:07
gnub_daemonit's just that I get access denied and no UPnP when I try to run the mythtv front/backend09:07
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: it would be nice if we could be able to watch tv via ethernet09:08
eagles0513875for those that dont have a tv tuner09:08
gnub_daemonindeed it would09:08
kaminixNow it works eagles0513875. Now how do I make it load automatically on boot? ^^09:08
eagles0513875kaminix: it should do that automatically09:08
monkeybritchesIs there something on tv worth watching?09:08
kaminixeagles0513875: What? How will it know what to load? It's not loading all my modules is it?09:09
gnub_daemonadult swim09:09
eagles0513875kaminix: there is an init.d script when booting tells it what starts and in what order09:09
eagles0513875lol futurama and family guy09:09
kaminixHmm... suppose the alias think in /etc/modprobe.d will make it load...09:10
kaminixWell, time to test. ^^09:10
kaminixbrb, restart.09:10
eagles0513875kaminix: if u have any data09:10
eagles0513875kaminix: make sure u back it up09:10
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eagles0513875karminix did it work09:25
eagles0513875kaminix: did it start up at reboot09:26
kaminixeagles0513875: It did not :(09:26
eagles0513875kaminix: wish i could help u out more but i have never had this issue. r u on a desktop09:27
kaminixI am. :/09:27
eagles0513875kaminix: is it built onto the motherboard or a pci card09:27
kaminixBuilt to the motherboard. Oh, by desktop I mean not-server. Laptop.09:28
kaminixbrb, reboot again. I've blacklisted the bad modules better now :p09:28
eagles0513875kaminix: wait09:28
eagles0513875kaminix: how bout now did u get it09:33
kaminixeagles0513875: The module loads! ^^ The bad modules don't!09:33
kaminixStill one problem though =/09:33
kaminixI still have to run sudo ifconfig wlan0 inet up and dhclient in order to connect. :/09:33
kaminixthe wlan0 device isn09:33
kaminix't loaded automatically09:34
eagles0513875kaminix: u could try create a script for now to automatically do all that09:34
eagles0513875kaminix: as a temp fix till u can get that sorted out09:34
kaminixAnd KNetworkManager don't recognize the wlan0 device :(09:34
eagles0513875kaminix: try this sudo apt-get install iptraf then once its installed do sudo iptraf09:35
eagles0513875kaminix: its handy for network usage analysis and u can also monitor ur wifi connection09:35
kaminixk, installing now.09:35
kaminixWhich one should I run eagles0513875? ip traffic monitor? interface stats?09:36
eagles0513875kaminix: hold on a sec09:37
eagles0513875kaminix: choose detailed interface stats and u can choose which interface09:38
eagles0513875nabil: ?09:38
kaminixeagles0513875: what about the stats?09:38
kaminixHello nabil09:38
eagles0513875kaminix: gives u bytes recieved sent up and down speeds total speed09:38
nabilHello! I'm a new user of kubuntu 7.10 :)09:38
nabilHello! I'm a new user of kubuntu 7.10 :)09:39
eagles0513875nabil: welcome09:39
kaminixnabil: Did you use Ubuntu before?09:39
eagles0513875nabil: if u have any questions just ask09:39
kaminixeagles0513875: Yes, what's that useful for? :s09:39
nabilI've a question!09:39
eagles0513875what the bytes sent adn recieved is useful if u have monthly download limits and u need to monitor how much data ur downloading09:39
eagles0513875!ask | nabil09:39
ubotunabil: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:39
nabilI need a small distro turnin' arround tetex or texlive!09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tetex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about texlive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:40
eagles0513875nabil: both tetex and tex live r in the repositories as well as kile which is a latex gui09:40
gnub_daemonmaybe that statement should be placed at the top of the welcome text for all channels/servers09:41
gnub_daemoncause all the gnubs say it09:41
hsn_how to lower mouse sensitivity in KDE?09:41
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: the one of ask09:41
kaminixeagles0513875: Well, I don't have such restrictions ^^09:41
eagles0513875kaminix: where i am here in europe i do but screw the 10gb monthly09:41
kaminixIn Sweden, there'd be a revolution if they limited us to 10GB ^^09:42
nabilthe problem is that my Internet connection is slow :(09:42
eagles0513875nabil: what kinda connection r u on09:43
nabilonly 128kbps09:43
eagles0513875kaminix: im in malta but in a few yrs time thats goign to change09:43
kaminixWhere're you moving?09:43
eagles0513875nabil: nabil check in the repositories for tex or latex09:43
eagles0513875kaminix: they goign to lay down another fiber cable thats going to be able to handle 800gb bandwith so im hoping they will remove them when that happens09:44
eagles0513875nabil: even tex live but i would search for it under latex09:44
nabilthank u09:44
kaminixAh, nice eagles0513875. :)09:44
eagles0513875nabil: no problem ur making me wanna start using it again09:45
eagles0513875kaminix: im also considering setting up my own cable internet isp09:45
eagles0513875kaminix: on all kubuntu based servers09:45
eagles0513875:p if i do set one up09:45
eagles0513875kaminix: im workign on linux cert09:45
nabilanother question: i'd like 2 use my kubuntu directly from an usb stick but my BIOS does not permit this !!09:45
eagles0513875nabil: cannot help u there how big is ur usb stick09:46
eagles0513875nabil: 2ndly its not dependent on bios r u on a laptop or desktop09:46
nabili've 2: 1GB and 4GB09:46
kaminixnabil: If your BIOS won't allow it, then there's no helping it. You need a better BIOS if you're to use it.09:46
eagles0513875try install it on the 4gb one09:46
kaminixeagles0513875: I think he means he can't boot from the stick because of his BIOS.09:47
nabilby bios does not have the option: boot from usb!09:47
eagles0513875nabil: on boot up there should be a button u press to choose what u want to boot off of does ur stick show up on that list09:47
oldmanemunabil: then it can't be done!09:47
eagles0513875oldmanemu: he could flash his bios09:48
gnub_daemonhave you upgraded your BIOS to the latest version?09:48
gnub_daemonyou beat me to it09:48
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: lol09:48
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: im good like that09:48
gnub_daemongreat minds think alike09:48
nabilphoenix bios 200309:48
gnub_daemonwhat pc/laptop do you have09:49
eagles0513875nabil: is this machine custom built or from a manufacturer09:49
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: stop stealing my thoughts:p09:49
nabilpentium 4, 1700MHz09:49
nabilcustom build09:50
eagles0513875nabil: what kind of motherboard do u have in it09:50
gnub_daemonhmmm...what mobo?09:50
eagles0513875gnub_daemon: haha09:50
nabili think via technologies09:50
payamI worked with quanta i just tried to edit my HTML template but it f u cked all my work. I need a program like dreamwever or Fronpage. I need to desig and i need Layouts. anbody know some goood program?09:50
eagles0513875nabil: go to the manufacturer of ur motherboard and see if they have a newer bios for it09:50
nabilok, thanx09:51
eagles0513875nabil: no prob09:51
oldmanemupayam: language please!!!09:51
eagles0513875!language | payam09:51
ubotupayam: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.09:51
payamAd give me a answer pleas09:51
kaminixWhy won't KNetworkManager recognize my Wireless interface?09:52
payamI had all of my files and images in the same mapp and now when i tried to open a HTm file i  cant see my images and the word are so straing.09:53
oldmanemupayam: have you tried re-installing the program u use for those files?09:54
gnub_daemonthat works too09:54
payamI just the quanta Plus . yes i have reinstall may times09:55
gnub_daemonwow...the new mythtv gui is kickin09:55
gnub_daemonfor lack of a more appropriate word09:56
kaminixWhy won't the KNetworkManager even notice I have a network card running?09:57
harmentalhey guys....does anybody know a tool for creating video captures (besides wink and recordmydesktop)??09:57
payamI run Kubuntu . can i install a Fedora 3 tarball(KDE) software on my KDE?09:57
kaminixKWiFiManager recognices it.09:57
llutzkaminix: is that net-device already configured in /etc/network/interfaces?09:58
llutzharmental: wink09:58
gnub_daemonshould be able to09:58
payamI ve download a .Deb file on my desktop. what should i do to instal it?09:58
Dr_willispayam,  what is this .deb?09:59
Dr_willisone normally installs packages with the package manager. NOT by downloading specific .deb files09:59
Dr_willis'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'  should install it - IF it has no extra dependencies.. Double clicking on it MIGHT also install it09:59
gnub_daemonor install the debian package installer10:01
DOOM_NXanyone knows what this means? http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5290/screenshotvncdoomsxdeskyk0.png10:01
gnub_daemonmeans you need to install that package?10:02
oldmanemuDOOM_NX: it's a url link to a picure!10:02
gnub_daemonnot a clue really10:02
gnub_daemonI'm assuming it's a screenshot10:03
sacha_i think its a screenshot of doom in vnc on someones desktop10:03
DOOM_NXoldmanemu, :/10:03
sacha_am i right doom?10:03
DOOM_NXit's a "vncviewer localhost:1"10:03
sacha_i was right!10:03
eagles0513875it looks like a borked x install10:04
gnub_daemonI sez it first10:04
DOOM_NXshouldn't be able to view my desktop?10:04
DOOM_NXor something10:04
sacha_you need assistive packages installed to do this though10:04
payamccI run Kubuntu. I would to install a file which is called'111.deb' what should i write in teminal to instal it?10:04
sacha_dpkg -i 111.deb ?10:05
DOOM_NXsacha_, if someone connects through tightvnc on windows will he see that message too?10:05
cocoaili got a question for the pro's10:05
DOOM_NXwhat are assistive packages anyway?10:05
Dr_willis'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'  should install it - IF it has no extra dependencies.10:05
cocoailshould i use 8.04 better10:05
cocoailor the 7 version10:05
cocoail8/04 beta10:05
Dr_williscocoail,   8.04 is due to be released in a few days10:05
sacha_8.04 beta is workin fine here10:05
sacha_it's actually RC, not beta10:05
gnub_daemon8.04 isn't quite done yet...but works well for me too10:05
Dr_willisthis close to release.. we better hope its very useable.. :)10:06
Dr_willisits getting close to crunch time!10:06
cocoaili can see your all excited10:06
sacha_cr... un... CH!10:06
DOOM_NXso any clue? :P10:06
cocoailso install the beta yeah ?10:06
gnub_daemonthough when I go to shutdown I only get the options to logoff, shutdown and reset10:06
sacha_damn, it broke10:06
sacha_cocoail: correction: the release candidate10:06
cocoailit wont mess with my linux exsperience10:06
cocoailit says beta10:06
gnub_daemonsuspend and hibernate are nowhere to be found10:06
cocoailfrom where im downloading it from10:06
sacha_cocoail: then you are looking at the wrong one10:06
gnub_daemonlook for the rc10:07
cocoailis it going to be the same as the release10:07
sacha_pretty much10:07
cocoailshould i just bloody wait for the final release10:07
gnub_daemonclose enough as to make no nevermind10:07
sacha_RC is pretty much same as release. may be a few bugs fixed10:07
cocoailall these options10:07
Dr_willisLinux is all about flexibility and options10:07
sacha_and when the release comes out, you can upgrade to it10:07
gnub_daemonI'd go with rc over beta if I were you10:07
sacha_no sweat from your RC install10:08
cocoailso it will upgrade easily10:08
cocoailwithout having to uninstall10:08
sacha_thats right10:08
cocoailill get the RC10:08
cocoailcan u give me a link10:08
sacha_in fact, you can install ubuntu 6.10 and upgrade to 8.04 if you really wanted to10:08
gnub_daemonjust sudo apt-get upgrade I believe10:08
cocoaili saw linux xp lol10:08
gnub_daemonthat seems to break packages and dependencies for me sacha10:08
cocoailthey wouldnt money for it though10:08
sacha_cocoail: http://www.kubuntu.org/10:08
cocoailim not paying for windows10:09
cocoailin a different kernal10:09
gnub_daemonit's just linux that LOOKS like windows10:09
sacha_i get windows for free thru microsoft connect anyway10:09
gnub_daemonhow's that sacha?10:09
cocoailcool thanks guys10:09
sacha_i beta test vista, vista is released, i get 3 cd keys10:09
sacha_i beta test server 2008, server 2008 is released, i get 1 cd key10:10
cocoailis it worth going to vista ?10:10
gnub_daemonah...I didn't much care for vista really10:10
sacha_its worth stickin with linux IMHO10:10
gnub_daemonit's what got me started on linux in the first place10:10
sacha_but server 2008 > vista if you are wondering10:10
sacha_if you were going to install windows at all, go with 200810:10
gnub_daemonbut I need XP for my music writing softwares10:11
payamI instal it10:11
cocoailis it easy to hack10:11
sacha_gnub_daemon: doesnt work in wine?10:11
cocoailu know download a dodgy copy10:11
sacha_dont know, dont care, i have 3 keys10:11
cocoailand activate it10:11
cocoailcan i have one10:11
gnub_daemonnot even with realtime-kernel10:11
payamDo you want to active wista?10:12
monkeybritchesI think a bad case of leprosy would be more enjoyable than Vista10:12
gnub_daemonHA...no doubt10:12
cocoailshould i downlaod the alternative10:13
cocoailor desktop10:13
cocoailalternative is probably quicker10:13
gnub_daemonprolly desktop if you're a first time user10:13
Dr_willisdepends on your needs. :)10:13
cocoailim not10:13
sacha_cocoail: desktop is nice. you can run ubuntu off the cd to see what you're getting in to before you install10:13
cocoailbut i know little10:13
gnub_daemonI always have probs with alt10:13
payamWhen do you use 'apt-get install '???10:14
sacha_that way you know beforehand if things wont work out10:14
cocoailok ill use desktop10:14
sacha_payam: to install packages that are in your repositories10:14
cocoailbut i can still install from the desktop version yet ?10:14
sacha_you load up kubuntu, see the desktop in all its glory and click the install link on desktop10:16
cocoailinstall link on desktop ?10:16
sacha_yeah when you are in kubuntu10:16
gnub_daemonit runs a little slow off the cd...but it should be faster after you install10:16
cocoailcan u install it from windows10:16
cocoaili got another question10:16
sacha_yeah but you can install it from kubuntu too10:16
Dr_willisWUBI can do that cocoail  - but i dont advise using wubi.10:17
payamhow can you install a tar.biz file?10:17
cocoailim doing beta from my internets ftp server (which gives me free downloads)10:17
sacha_you install it from windows, it defeats the purpose of using live cd to preview it before you install though10:17
cocoailif i update it after i install the beta10:17
cocoailwill it be less of a download to update to RC10:17
cocoailif u get me10:18
sacha_payam: tar xvf filename.tar.gz && cd filename && ./configure && make && make install10:18
Dr_williscocoail,  depends on the # of updates in the next few days..10:18
cocoaili think ill just install the beta and update it once its installed10:18
sacha_cocoail: you can just install the rc right now10:18
Dr_willisThere maybe 200+mb of updates tomorrow - we cant tell.10:18
cocoailbut i can free downloads10:18
cocoailfrom my internets ftp10:18
sacha_your ISP cocoail?10:19
sacha_iinet should have mirrored rc by now10:19
cocoailand it only has beta10:19
cocoailcan u find me a link coz i cant see one anywhere10:19
sacha_ok ill find one on ubuntu.com..10:19
cocoailyeah one with iinet10:20
sacha_do you have the link to the beta one?10:21
payamsacha_ : what do you mean with CD?10:21
sacha_payam: huh, what part?10:22
payamsacha_: you said <sacha_> payam: tar xvf filename.tar.gz && cd filename && ./configure && make && make install10:22
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto10:23
sacha_cd means change directory.. its a command10:23
sacha_when you run tar xvf, it extracts to a directory named whatever the file was10:23
cocoailcan you find it10:24
payammy files name is install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz10:24
payamShould i write it on terminal???10:25
sacha_cocoail: do you have to use that directory?10:25
Dr_willispayam,  you dont need to use that file to isntall flash under ubuntu10:26
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:26
Dr_willisIn fact you  its proberly best you DONT use that  intall_flash file to install flash10:26
sacha_cocoail: there's other ones like: http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/10:27
cocoailwhat do u mean10:27
sacha_they have another one without ftp. but i forgot it10:28
sacha_anyway cocoail, you know that all updates to kubuntu are free downloads for you too right?10:28
cocoailare they10:28
cocoailgoes through iinets servers ?10:29
sacha_just makes sure your sources.list uses iinet server10:29
sacha_and then all automatic updates use that10:29
cocoailfuck yeah10:29
sacha_all updates are contained here for every version: http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/10:29
cocoaileven the downloading of software10:29
jussi01!ohmy | cocoail10:29
ubotucocoail: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.10:29
cocoailbut i dont have to go to the ftp site10:29
sacha_thats right10:29
cocoailit will do it for my on kubunut hey10:29
SniperBeamerI just found out that kubuntu hardy doesn't use pulseaudio by default, is there a problem related to kde?10:29
cocoailwell im going to install10:30
cocoailand can you teach me10:30
kaminixHow do I make ubuntu do ifconfig wlan0 up automatically on startup?10:30
cocoailhow to change the source to iinet10:30
sacha_just make sure you choose iinet server for updates (might be default anyway)10:30
cocoailthanks for all your help10:30
sacha_it's in options in adept_manager10:30
cocoailcheers man10:30
cocoailbbl installing kubuntu10:30
cocoailcool cool10:30
sacha_or /etc/apt/sources.list10:30
cocoailcya soon10:30
payamsacha_: help me with this10:31
payamPlease enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,10:31
payamor Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):10:31
payamwhat do it mean?10:32
sacha_is this installing a plugin?10:32
payamAdobe flash player10:32
sacha_you use konqueror browser?10:32
payamno mozilla10:32
sacha_oh, well wherever your mozilla plugins are stored10:32
sacha_there's actually a few places that it looks10:33
payamwhat should i wrote there now?10:33
sacha_does /usr/lib/mozilla exist for you?10:33
payamARNING: /usr/lib/mozilla exist for you? is not a directory.10:36
sacha_without the existing part10:39
payamnever mind! i knew how i do now i just opend a new websied and  clicked on "installa the misse d plugin "in firefox10:41
payamsacha_: I know it was really Lol10:42
kaminixI have a problem. By adding commandline stuff in /etc/rc.local I've made my OS start my network interface automatically; however, KNetworkManager (a OpenSUSE app, I know) won't recognize the interface, Konqueror won't connect to the Internet and Kopete won't connect to the Internet. On a sidenot, Firefox also starts in offline mode.10:52
jussio1kaminix: please dont ask the same question simultaneously in 2 channels.10:53
dkZkubuntu 8.04 is stable?10:56
jussi01no. not yet. it is eleased next week10:56
dkZok, thx10:56
kaminixjussio1: Then which one should I ask it in?10:56
jussio1kaminix: whichever you feel is more appropriate, however, its considered quite rude to ask in both simultaneously.10:57
Dr_willisfrom the termnal  can you jsut PING some ip's?10:58
sacha_yeah ive had this happen before. if knetworkmanager things you arent connected, everything will be in offline mode10:58
sacha_this was a problem when knetworkmanager was bugged and didnt work. there was a workaround to force online mode10:59
ScorpKingi have a multimedia keyboard and the <F1-12> keys don't work. dmesg shows "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known." how do i get it working?10:59
Dr_willisits not one of those odd keyboards that defalt to the F keys being multi-media functions  is it?11:02
Dr_willisI got a logitech that F1 for example defaults to launch browser,  UNLESS you first hit this mode button.11:02
ScorpKingDr_willis: it has special keys on them as well which doesn't work either. i just want the Fx keys to work11:04
Dr_williscould be theres some 'mode/change/toggle' to select F keys or Special keys thats got it confused11:05
Dr_willisi wonder what keycode F1is normally11:05
ScorpKingDr_willis: not that i can see. if i can get the keycode for F1 i can just - setkeycodes e059 <keycode> and it should work11:07
Dr_willissounds like a plan. You might want to check that keyboard out under other  linux live cd/disrtos see if they also have issues.11:08
ScorpKingi'm compiling hdaintel drivers but get "checking for libasound headers version >= 1.0.15... not present." and have libasound2-dev installed. what am i missing?11:09
ScorpKingDr_willis: i'll have a look online later. thanks :)11:09
wesleyis there a way to deframent you ntfs externalharddrive in kubuntu11:13
Dr_willisthere are some ntfs tools for linux. But i would suggest letting windows defrag the thing11:13
wesleyi want trow windows off it its sucks11:14
wesleybought a notebook with vista basic lol and i already removed it got now a other version11:14
sacha_that sucks.. cause you just paid $60 for vista basic11:15
zeke$60's cheap for vista11:16
zekea steal as it were11:16
sacha_it's vista basic and that's a rip off11:17
zekeas far as OS capabilities go...yes11:17
zekebut for what you would pay for it retail...it's a steal11:18
sacha_i got 3 vista ultimate keys for free for beta testing it.. they are giving it away11:18
zekeI paid for two of them and upgraded immediately to XP11:20
wesleyuh let i say it so haved me 3 times blue screen and @ the end didnt booted anymore11:20
zekeholy mackerel...television has really gone downhill in the past 10 year11:22
kaminixIs there any equivalence to Gentoo's net-setup in Kubuntu? Some tool to configure all network things easily?11:23
dthackerkaminix: System Settings?11:24
dthackerThen Network and Connectivity11:24
kaminixdthacker: It doesn't work when I try it. sacha_: Knetworkmanager won't even notice my network interface wlan0 since I switched the driver.11:24
sacha_iwconfig ?11:25
dthackerkaminix: What are you trying to accomplish?11:25
sacha_are you sure it's right driver?11:26
rdwhi, how to recreate /etc/fstab? i added a hard drive and now i want it to automatically recognize all partitions like the installer does11:27
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kaminixdthacker: sacha_: Yes, the driver is right since I'm on here and that's working. ^^ As I said earlier though, some applications won't acknowledge my network interface working... ehm... like KNetworkManager won't even display it, Kopete's MSN services refuse to go online (simmilar to if you disconnect the net, try to go online on MSN and then reconnect again it won't work), Konqueror won't let me surf, and Firefox starts in offline11:27
ScorpKinghow do i upgrade alsactl version 1.0.14 to alsactl version 1.0.15?11:27
kaminixIt's very difficult to summarize everything on IRC :p11:28
dthackerkaminix: what I understand is that you have switched drivers and now the OS does not see your network card? Correct?11:29
dthackerScorpKing: use adept and see if the package has been updated in the repositories11:30
kaminixdthacker: Sort of, some applications use it just fine, but the OS itself doesn't seem to want anything to do with it. Yes.11:30
ScorpKingdthacker: nope nothing11:31
ScorpKingdthacker: i found this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579548&page=2 but still waiting for the page to load. will get back if i have problems11:32
kaminixdthacker: I somehow need to tell the system which network interface to use by default. If I don't forcibly ifconfig wlan0 up my wlan0 interface, it won't come up at all.11:33
dthackerScorpKing: ok, good luck11:35
dthackerkaminix: If you want the wireless interface to start by default, and KDE/KDE utilities are not working for you, perhaps you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces11:36
kaminixdthacker: Any ideas?11:36
kaminixI tried that, but I didn't understand the syntax. Also, eth0 is not in there but start automatically anyway?11:37
dthackerkaminix: please pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces11:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:38
dthackerand then give me the link.11:39
kaminixdthacker: Okay, it's only default now though.11:39
* dthacker afk for 2 mins to grab laptop.....11:40
kaminixdthacker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63813/11:40
* dthacker is back and reading.....11:42
kaminixwb :)11:42
dthackerkaminix: could you also please post ifconfig as of now for this machine?11:44
ScorpKingin what package is the kernel source?11:45
kaminixdthacker: Yes, just a second.11:45
kaminixdthacker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63814/11:46
dthackerkaminix: no hardwired connection on this machine?11:47
kaminixdthacker: Actually, it used to list eth0, though it's not in use. Don't know why it's not listed now.11:48
jimhey guys i gotta *.avi i wanna put on a blank cd ! whats the best program to use to do this11:48
dthackerjim: K3B11:48
Dr_willisjim,  you mean archive it as a data file? or convert to a video cd/dvd?11:48
jimits a avi file and i just wanna burn it so i can watch it on my dvd player11:49
Dr_willisjim,  thats a bit more complex.11:49
jimi was hoping it would be easy11:49
Dr_willisThe tool 'devede' can do that rather easially11:49
jimdrag and drop kind of easy !11:49
dthackerkaminix: my wireless does not show up as wlan0 in ifconfig.11:49
dthackerI have eth0 and eth111:49
Dr_willisdvd video format and the menus are a bit complex. and can take a bit of time/cpu to do so.11:49
jimso search for devede11:49
ScorpKingdthacker: try iwconfig11:50
Dr_willis!info devede11:50
ubotudevede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB11:50
jimnah its not a dvd11:50
Dr_willisTheres other tools that can do it. Thye are all basicially front end to the various conversion tools.11:50
dthackerScorpKing: eth1 as well11:50
jimi just wanna put a *.avi movie on a blank cdr11:50
Dr_willisMaking it onto a CD..not sure if thats even possivle.11:50
kaminixdthacker: Do you use your wireless?11:50
dthackeryes, but the AP is down ATM11:51
Dr_willisjim,  you are sort of missing a point here.. :) either the dvd player can play avi files.. or it cant..   if it can only play dvd video. Youmust convert it to dvd vidoe11:51
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Dr_willisIF you have a newer player that can play avi/divx that makes things MUCH easier11:51
kaminixdthacker: So it's normal eth doesn't show up?11:51
jimmy dvd player can play avi11:51
Dr_willisjim,  then fire up k3b and make a data cd..11:52
Dr_willisthat just saves you about an hr+ of time11:52
jimahh data disc will work will it11:52
dthackerkaminix: I don't know.  I think part of your issue is that you have now eth0 and eth111:52
Dr_willisjim,  its YOUR player. :) i dont know.11:53
kaminixdthacker: I don't have eth0 or eth1? :s I usually have an eth0 listed, but right now it's only lo and wlan011:53
jimall dvd players can play avi11:53
Dr_willisjim,  ive seen newer players that even have usb/sd slots.11:53
Dr_willisjim,  Huh? that is not true.. not ALL dvd players can play avi.11:54
jimyeh i got 1 of those11:54
jimbut the dvd player broke11:54
jimit was a cheap 1 from aldis11:54
Dr_willisIn fact i imagine i can find some avi files that those cant play. Its all about the 'codec' of the video file.11:54
* dthacker ponders.....11:54
ScorpKingdthacker: it will be eth1 then.11:54
jimthis is burning fast11:54
* ScorpKing has bad lag..11:54
Dr_willismany of the playes now can play the divx codec videos.11:54
dthackerScorpKing: what will be eth1?11:55
ScorpKingdthacker: wireless11:55
dthackerkaminix: let's try this:  in /etc/network interfaces add these two lines.11:56
dthackerkaminix: at the bottom of the file11:56
dthackerfirst line: auth eth111:56
ScorpKingdthacker: you can change it to wlan0 in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules11:56
kaminixdthacker: But I don't have eth1? :s11:56
dthackerScorpKing: what is the advantage to changing it?11:57
kaminixDon't you mean wlan0 dthacker?11:57
ScorpKingah kaminix :) run iwconfig to see what card is the wireless11:57
ScorpKingdthacker: none ;)11:57
kaminixScorpKing: wlan0 :)11:57
dthackerScorpKing: then should he use auto wlan011:57
* ScorpKing goes back to compiling intelhda drivers..11:57
ScorpKingdthacker: the one that is wireless. it doesn't matter11:58
ScorpKinglook at man interfaces for details ;)11:58
* dthacker reads11:59
kaminixdthacker: The /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules say:12:00
kaminix# PCI device 0x1814:0x0201 (rt2500pci)12:00
kaminixSUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:0d:f0:1d:31:b1", ATTRS{type}=="1", NAME="wlan0"12:00
dthackerScorpKing: are ethx and ethy considered physical interfaces?  Are wlanx and wlany considered physical or virtual interfaces12:00
kaminixrt2500pci is the old driver, should I somehow alter that or something?12:01
dthackerkaminix: we're getting pretty deep in the goo here.  My goal right now is to get the proper autostart into /etc/network/interfaces.12:02
kaminixSounds like a good start, though it wasn't neccesery with the old driver, why should it be with the new one?12:03
dthackerkaminix: I could be wrong, but I think no entry in interfaces=no start.  Can someone confirm or deny my statement?12:04
* dthacker looks around the room12:05
kaminixThat sounds reasonably, but shouldn't I have some kind of entry of my old one left if that was the case? Isn't this some hotplug issue?12:06
jimerrrrrrrrr your right its taking aaaaaaaaages to burn a cd12:06
kaminixThough it can't hurt to have I suppose, might solve it.12:08
dthackerkaminix: hotplug?  Is it a USB wireless device?12:09
kaminixdthacker: Don't know, but well, udev then. Some of the services which activates devices.12:09
dthackerkaminix: is the wireless device built in, or plugged and unplugged?12:10
dthackerok.  let me read a few more mins and other people are welcome to help....12:11
* dthacker pokes ScorpKing12:14
dthackerScorpKing: I don't see any examples in the interfaces example file that start devices this way "auto wlan0"  Is it necessary to map "wlan0" to "eth1" and how do I accomplish that?12:16
kaminixWhy would you want to map wlan0 to eth1? :s12:17
dthackerkaminix: I want to autostart the wireless device.  It's currenly only showing as wlan0, but I don't see any examples in the docs that say "auto wlan0" so I'm wondering if it needs to get mapped.12:19
payamI need a woman herer12:19
dthacker!ot | payam12:19
ubotupayam: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:19
kaminixdthacker: wlan0 only comes up because I 'ifconfig wlan0 up'-ed it. :s12:20
dthackerkaminix: try this12:20
dthackerfirst line : auto wlan012:20
dthackersecond line: iface wlan0 inet dhcp12:21
dthackerin /etc/network/interfaces12:21
dthackerthen do a network restart12:21
harmentalguys...how can i create a video from a bunch of jpeg or eps files???12:25
ScorpKingdthacker: sorry, i was a bit busy. reading posts now..12:25
dthackerScorpKing: np.:)12:26
dthackerharmental:  jpgs = still photos?12:26
ScorpKingdthacker: no entry in interfaces=no start is correct. set wlan0 up the same as eth0. it's still a network device. looks like you have the rest right12:28
harmentaldthacker: yeap12:29
ScorpKinghaha. i have to reboot. brb12:29
dthackerharmental: and you want to burn these to DVD, put it in your standalone DVD player and watch it on your TV?12:30
harmentaldthacker: much more simpler than that....12:32
harmentaljust want all the images to be payed in a sequential order....12:32
kaminix^dthacker: Sorry... second line? :p12:32
harmentalthese are really low-res images...not photos or anything like that...12:32
* ScorpKing is back..12:33
kaminix^dthacker: For reference: I first saved after the first line, and everything went down. The wlan0 disappeared from ifconfig and eth0 jumped up.12:33
kaminix^Also, I couldn't get wlan0 online (as in on the net, not just ifconfig up) again.12:33
ScorpKingdthacker: will you manage? i still have nvidia drivers to install and it's giving problems. i'll be in and out of X all the time12:34
dthackerScorpKing: I'm fumbling my way through.12:34
kaminix^dthacker: Got a friend to post what seems to be the main part of Gentoo/Sabayon's script, might be of help? http://utopiaplayer.pastebin.com/d19337df112:35
ScorpKingdthacker: hehe. anything else before i go?12:35
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dthackerScorpKing: nah,  if he can start a device with "auto wlan(x)" then I think we're ok.12:36
ScorpKingdthacker: it should be unless there is encryption on the link. have fun. :)12:37
dthackerkaminix^: second line "iface wlan0 inet dhcp"12:37
ScorpKingcheers guys12:37
kaminix^Any third line dthacker? Might fall out again when I save.12:38
dthackerharmental: If you want to just play them back on a computer, Gwenview will run them as a slide show.12:38
dthackerkaminix: no.  I have no idea why it is auto restarting the network.  I have never seen that behavior12:39
harmentaldthacker: yeap...but i want to embed that into a presentation....12:39
harmentalvideo is the way to go...12:39
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dthackerharmental: ah. ok.  the only video editor I know of is kino.  I have never used it.12:40
kaminix^dthacker: Nothing bad happened now anyway. I'll reboot and see what happends I suppose? :)12:40
kaminix^KNetworkManager switched icon, but apart from that nothing.12:40
harmentaldthacker: thx...ill check on that12:40
dthackerkaminix^: you could just do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:41
ere4si!info avidemux12:43
ubotuavidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB12:43
kaminixdthacker: It works! Only thing not working is KNetworkManager, is there anyway to fix that too?12:45
dthackerkaminix: that's out of my skills.  I'd suggest posting to the forumns or a question on launchpad12:46
kaminixThanks for everything dthacker! :D12:47
dthackernp!  I learned some things too :)12:47
GeekFarmhey, can anyone help out a newbie?12:48
jimHey guys its me AGAIN ! i have a slight issue with the linux/windows dual boot  ! ok here is the issue, i firstly installed Kubuntu then i partitioned the hdd with Gparted and then installed windows, Now windows didnt install itself on C: it installed itself on F: is there any way of changing F: to C:   ?12:55
jimits ok i found it12:58
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* dthacker goes for a walk bbl13:03
NorDhi who, know , how add 800x600@100Ghz only in xorg ?13:10
oldmanemuNorD: do you mean refresh rate, 100hz ?13:12
NorDonly 100ghz @ 800x60013:13
oldmanemuNorD: you can do it in System Settings >> Monitor and Display13:14
oldmanemuNorD: are you sure you mean 100ghz or 100hz ?13:16
oldmanemuNorD: you can't set a refresh rate at 100 "ghz" !13:16
NorDwhy  ?13:17
NorDModeline "800x600_100.00"  68.18  800 848 936 1072  600 601 604 636  -HSync +Vsync13:17
NorDi cant use it ?13:17
NorDnord@godz0ne:~$ gtf 800 600 10013:17
llutzNorD: what you mean is "Hz" not "GHz"13:17
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GeekFarmAnyone know if it is possible to set all files to read-write or if this is okay to do?13:48
gnoobGeekFarm, that would be something root could do.13:49
GeekFarmI'm trying to use apt-get to reinstall xserver and it's telling me dpkg is read only13:49
gnoobI am not sure why you would want a user to do that.13:49
GeekFarmI had a complete failure while updating kubuntu13:49
GeekFarmit's down to command line and I'm a newbine ;)13:49
gnoobGeekFarm, does your terminal line end it a $ or a #?13:50
GeekFarmwhats the significance of that?13:50
gnoob$ is a normal user # is the root account.13:50
gnoobI have not really use Ubuntu but don't you have to use the sudo command? Did you try that?13:51
gnooband it still says it is read only, interesting.13:51
GeekFarmI ended uup using $path usr/bin/sudo $path /usr/bin/apt-get install xserver-xorg13:52
GeekFarmand it tells me I dont have write permission13:52
GeekFarmdoes that make sense as a command line?13:53
GeekFarmIt always tells me the path doesnt include the commands if I dont put $path /usr/bin/ in front of each thing13:53
gnoobGeekFarm, cant you just do $sudo apt-get instal xserver-org?13:54
gnoobi mean xserver-xorg13:54
GeekFarmhm let me try ;)13:55
GeekFarm"the command could not be located because '/usr/bin/' is not included in the PATH"13:56
gnoobGeekFarm, try $ /usr/bin/sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg13:57
malgonj'ai un problème13:57
malgonje poseeède 2 disuqes durs et j'ai installé kubuntu sur un13:57
MooHi, could someone help? My mouse stopped working again, is there any other way to get it work than rebooting the whole computer?13:57
llutz!fr | malgon13:58
ubotumalgon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:58
gnoobIf that does not work, I am not sure what the issue is.  I still consider myself a noob and I have never used kubuntu. I just popped it to see what was happening.  I have been thinking of trying it.13:58
GeekFarmgnoob - "bash: $ command not found"13:58
llutzGeekFarm: export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"13:59
gnoobGeekFarm, where is the sudo command located?13:59
GeekFarmin /usr/bin13:59
gnoobah, look like llutz knows what he is doing.13:59
GeekFarmok I got that path I think, it gave no error response14:01
GeekFarmthanks llutz14:01
llutzGeekFarm: have you tried to upgrade to hardy?14:02
GeekFarmactually it still doesnt have the correct path14:02
GeekFarmno, I'm not sure what that is... I was using kubuntu but the updater crashed and now I'm down to command line...14:02
GeekFarmjust being trying to resurrect the system somehow14:02
neville_Phoenix Down GeekFarm? :P14:03
llutzGeekFarm:try  "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"14:03
GeekFarmyeah quite the spectacular failure I must say14:03
GeekFarmllutz: it gives me a string of directories (looks like a path listing) with : no such file or directory at the end14:05
malgoni've a problem14:07
GeekFarmjoin the club malgon :p14:07
malgonexcuse but i'm french and i seek my words :)14:08
llutz!fr | malgon14:08
ubotumalgon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:08
malgonok thank you14:09
ahmedhi when i open my pc it goes in something like scan disk in windows and it says wrong checksum for a long file name and it doesnt repair this how i solve this14:16
=== guillaume_ is now known as blackmail
blackmailhello people14:21
blackmaili just DLed alsa1.0.16 but i don't know what to do with the three files i found in ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/14:22
blackmailoh well, i guess i'm in no hurry14:23
blackmailsee ya :)14:23
ahmedhi when i open my pc it goes in something like scan disk in windows and it says wrong checksum for a long file name and it doesnt repair this how i solve this14:24
tdnWhy is Launchpad so slow?14:36
yski have14:38
yski want to swtch to ubuntu14:39
harolddongshoot that fool14:39
PriceChild!guidelines > harolddong14:40
harolddongI meant shoot him with love14:40
yskplz can u guide me14:40
yski am using linux first time14:40
yskhow to install softwares14:40
yski got a notification that there is a new version of kopex14:41
ysknow how would i install it?14:41
harolddongdo you you know how to use adept manager?14:41
jhutchins!enter | ysk14:41
ubotuysk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:41
PriceChildysk:http://kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html is useful14:41
yskok thanks14:41
PriceChildysk: that guide will help you install software. It is also available on the installed os somewhere14:42
jhutchinsysk: You will find better support for switching to ubuntu in #ubuntu.14:42
jhutchinsysk: Basically you want to install ubuntu-desktop.14:42
matt_even after a complete reinstall, after sudo bashing the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site, they install correctly, i'll startup kdm again, it works fine. Problem=I have to sudo bash them every boot. The last part of the installer changes your xorg.conf, so that is ok. What could be causing this? Everytime i boot up, it goes to a cli.14:42
PriceChildmatt_: you haven't installed the drivers properly... we reccomend using the drivers included in ubuntu, in the nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new packages14:43
matt_PriceChild: hey...i've done this many times on this and other systems...i'm just wondering what is happening this time. used to work 100%. the drivers work much better than your nvidia=glx14:44
Stroganoffmatt_ alternatively you could use the "Envy" (latest) graphics driver installer14:44
crazy_busam I allowed to ask a wget question here since it's used in kubuntu.  Or should I go elsewhere?14:45
matt_Stroganoff: i didn't think of that, why didn't i think of that, i've talked a few times with the guy that wrote it, why didn't i think of that.14:45
PriceChild!envy | Stroganoff14:45
ubotuStroganoff: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »14:45
matt_Stroganoff: i'll give it a try...mr. beef stroganoff14:46
Stroganoffmatt_: does kdm startup? (should prompt "starting kdm" at tty114:46
matt_Stroganoff: eehh....yes and no. it tries, i believe...14:47
matt_Stroganoff: but..gotta go, i'll give envy a try when i get back..thanks14:47
harmentalhey guys..I have this problem...when i connect a projector to my laptop the everything prior to the login screen looks great...but then the projector goes black...so far i have succeeded in tweaking the monitor settings to make it work...14:47
harmentalany ideas?14:48
harolddonghow do I get my resolution set right when I install the nvidia driver?14:51
Stroganoffsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg14:51
harolddongI can do that when I logged in and it will just apply changes after I restart?14:52
Stroganoffthe changes are applied after restarting the X server (graphical backend) by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace14:55
DreadKnightany MOTU's around?15:00
DreadKnightmaster of the universe..15:00
BluesKajgawd ...look in gamers room :)15:01
DreadKnightmotu's take care of packaging and the ubuntu repository...15:02
BluesKajlike this ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/15:03
DreadKnightthat's more like it :-)15:03
BluesKaj:) ..I have an aversion to gamers coming in with questions i don't understand15:04
jonathan__BluesKaj: what was the questin15:05
BluesKajheh, my cupsys is broken and it seems to be very difficult to fix15:05
jonathan__BluesKaj: lol im a gamer but at least i know how to fix things and i ask if i dont lol15:05
BluesKajjonathan__,  DreadKnight asked : any MOTU's around?15:05
eagles0513875BluesKaj: thats classic lol i do have a question that u probably wont be able to answer lol15:06
BluesKajaha , changed yer nick eh eagles0513875 :) ?15:06
eagles0513875BluesKaj: do u know where i can find a list of all necessary pkgs which allow kde to fuction15:07
eagles0513875BluesKaj: ya lol need to get back to fixing bugs but right now i wanna start a lil project of my own lol15:07
eagles0513875BluesKaj: i know but since im wanting to use it in a cluster environment i would like to change the default pkgs and remove alot of the extra stuff thats installed15:07
eagles0513875kaminix: hey u manage not to bork ur setup15:08
BluesKajeagles0513875, , I'm not sure what the default pkges are with kde15:09
kaminixeagles0513875: Hehe, yeah. :) Tried to fix the KNetworkManager thingie, but I backed up the settings :)15:10
eagles0513875BluesKaj: Jucato linked me to a pkg of his for instance kbluetooth wouldnt be needed in a cluster amarok neither i just wanna be able to have a kde desktop geared spcifically for cluster environments15:10
BluesKajI always thought of kde as a desktop ayer running on top of compatible pkges15:10
eagles0513875kaminix: if there is a bug out there why not setup ur machine and work on bug fixes15:11
eagles0513875!bugs | kaminix15:11
ubotukaminix: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots15:11
eagles0513875kaminix: thats not what i wantd hold on15:11
kaminixeagles0513875: I'm no programmer and not very good with packaging and stuff, NO idea how to fix bugs.15:12
eagles0513875kaminix: u have to start somewhere i started with to rather easy bugs to fix one fix was released and the other wishlisted15:12
eagles0513875its quite satisfying knowing that you played a part in enhancing and fixing the best linux distro out there15:13
kaminixRight now I don't really have the time either. ^^ School term end, university in August. Have started with some C++ in order to be able to help with KDE in the future though. ^^15:13
eagles0513875BluesKaj: i think the only way to figure that out would be to either get a copy fo the source code of kde or start uninstalling pkgs that i dont need in a hope i dont bork anything15:13
eagles0513875kaminix: thats a start15:13
eagles0513875kaminix: im hoping to learn c++ this summer15:14
sweettoothhello there, i would like to find out the make and the chipset of my wireless card, is there any command to find that?15:14
eagles0513875sweettooth: you wanna find out what chipset and pci devices r in ur machine15:14
eagles0513875*are in your15:14
BluesKajeagles0513875, uninstalling default pkges will take the whole desktop out in most cases15:14
kaminixWhat happened with the Device Database thingie? They removed that in new Ubuntu? Not comming until 8.04 is released?15:14
stdinsweettooth: "lspci"15:14
eagles0513875kaminix: it is but its under system the hardware drivers manager15:15
ahmet_you speak turkish_?15:15
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.15:15
sweettootheagle0513875, i want to find out the details of my wireless card in the laptop15:15
kaminixeagles0513875: The what?15:15
eagles0513875sweettooth: what stdin said up top lspci15:15
IppatsuManThe core kde package should be kde-core, which depends on kdebase and kdelibs15:16
eagles0513875kaminix: go to system and click on hardware drivers manager thats the new name for the restricted drivers manager is that what ur looking for or not15:16
sweettoothyes, i tried that now, thank you for both your help15:16
eagles0513875sweettooth: no prob15:16
kaminixeagles0513875: Nope, looking for the hardware feedback program they had in the previous two or three releases.15:16
eagles0513875IppatsuMan: post a bug report and then head into the #kubuntu-devel channel and post the link to the bug and ask them in there15:17
eagles0513875kaminix: its called kinfocenter under system15:17
kaminixeagles0513875: Should I give feedback on my RT2500-card even now?15:18
eagles0513875kaminix: i would file a wishlist bug so that it could start being worked on for next bug15:18
kaminixWorked in Gutsy though =/15:19
eagles0513875kaminix: sry if im not making any sense i just woke up form a long 2 hr nap which i utterly needed15:19
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.15:19
eagles0513875kaminix: mention that in the bug that way they can take a look at the change log and see what changes have been made to it15:19
kexhi there, i have a problem with my wicd manager. it creates zombies like sh <defuncty> any ideas why this happens?15:20
SuperSonhi folks, i'm using the 8.04 beta and am having issues running screenlets.  the screenlets-manager won't load. any help?15:20
eagles0513875SuperSon: try in #ubuntu+115:21
SuperSonis screenlets only for ubuntu and not kubuntu? if so, nevermind.15:23
=== SuperSon is now known as SuperSonic
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell15:24
DreadKnightSuperSonic: well, screenlets for gnome, superkaramba widgets for kde3 and plasmoids for kde4...15:24
eagles0513875how do i check what kernel version i have15:25
DreadKnighteagles0513875: looking into adept ? :P15:25
sourcemaker_i try to sync my ipod with amarok and receive following message:  failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted15:25
sourcemaker_persmission denied... how can i fix this issue?15:25
eagles0513875DreadKnight: lol im guessing ur new to linux15:26
rootsnatcheagles: uname -a15:26
SuperSonicthanks Dread. i'm using superk right now - not quite as nice as screenlets, but that answers my question. thanks!15:26
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: sudo15:26
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: hold up15:26
sourcemaker_I wan't start amarok with sudo :-)15:26
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: join me in #kubuntu-devel15:26
DreadKnighteagles0513875: erm.. more or less xD15:26
DreadKnightSuperSonic: np :-)15:26
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: hold up there is a pkg that ur probably going to need to install let me link u something15:26
sourcemaker_eagles0513875: I have to ipod plugin installed and amarok is detecting my device as ipod15:27
DreadKnightSuperSonic: the thing is that screenlets use python and cairo for rendering which is gnome's/gtk+ way of rendering stuff15:27
jonathan__I tried to connect a mtp-media player with amarok and it didn't work.15:27
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: there was a bug filed as to a dependency not being installed let me get the bug and link it for ya that way ull have the pkg15:27
jonathan__i now found the reason through typing "mtp-detect" once as user root and once as I'm just logged in with my standard user-name.15:27
jonathan__when i'm logged in as a root it works nice, but if I'm trying the same as a normal user the console says that no mtp-device was found...15:27
jonathan__how can i solve that problem ?? :)15:28
eagles0513875jonathan__: probably need to change the permissions for the program15:28
jonathan__hm i would like to allow all programs to detect mtp-devices when i'm not logged in with root15:28
jonathan__and not even amarok15:29
sourcemaker_eagles0513875: this is my fstab: /dev/sde2       /mnt/ipod       vfat    rw,user         0       015:29
eagles0513875jonathan__: then u have to change its permissions15:29
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: i know what ur doing give me a min here plz15:29
jonathan__and how do i do this? :)15:29
eagles0513875jonathan__: there is a dependency ur missing that will probablymake it work there is a bug up there that i fixed but the course of action whether to release this package as a dependency or a suggested pkg got it back seated for now15:30
eagles0513875jonathan__: and right now im having issues with firefox2 getting me to the bug site hold on15:31
eagles0513875might have found a bug with firefox215:32
jonathan__hm :/15:32
eagles0513875jonathan__: can you try and get on launchpad for me15:32
eagles0513875jonathan__: nm launchpad is down15:33
eagles0513875!fr | tony_15:33
ubotutony_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.15:33
tony_quelqu'un parle francais15:33
eagles0513875tony_: O_o english only channel in here use one of the rooms above15:34
jonathan__ok i'm there15:35
jonathan__what nwow?15:35
eagles0513875search for eagles051387 thats me and try view the bugs that i have either confirmed or fixed there is one bug thats wishlisted and thats the bug that has the dependency15:36
eagles0513875jonathan__: how are you getting to launchbad and im not able to15:36
jonathan__dont know...15:37
eagles0513875jonathan__: interesting15:37
jonathan__but the sites are loading very slowly15:37
jonathan__now i cannot acces sites on launchpad too... sorry15:38
eagles0513875jonathan__: i just pinged the site there is data loss somewhere and its not loading at all for me15:38
eagles0513875jonathan__: its fine im just really wanna help ya fix it15:38
jonathan__thank you ;)15:39
jonathan__so now it had lod15:39
eagles0513875jonathan__: whoops wrong bug :(15:39
jonathan__but i cannot search for persons only for bugs or projects15:40
eagles0513875jonathan__: im getting what u want confused with someone elses:(15:40
=== guillaume_ is now known as blackmail
blackmailhey guys15:40
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: its a simple dependency that your missing15:40
eagles0513875hello my name is jonathan15:40
blackmailhow do i get to compile the latest alsa version ?15:40
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: might be able to get it for ya the site takeing a while to load15:41
sourcemaker_eagles0513875: nice15:41
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: :) its up15:42
blackmailhow do i get to compile files ? i want to get alsa 1.0.1615:42
=== joe___ is now known as rootsnatch
blackmaildoesn't anyone know ?15:43
eagles0513875blackmail: u have the source right15:43
blackmaili downloaded the files15:43
blackmail.tar.bz2 files15:44
blackmaili don't know what to do with them15:44
eagles0513875first extract them15:44
blackmailhow ? is there a command for that ?15:44
blackmaili just installed Kubntu yesterday15:44
blackmailoh wait i found15:45
blackmaili extracted them :)15:46
eagles0513875blackmail: ok now give me a min and im going to find you a step by step on how to compile from source15:46
blackmaileagles0513875: cheers15:47
eagles0513875sourcemaker_: can u see if u have the kdebase-kio-plugins installed15:47
eagles0513875blackmail: try this but using your package instead http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Compiling_Programs_from_Source15:48
blackmailok thanks15:49
eagles0513875blackmail: also this might come in handy www.google.com/linux searches all linux pgs15:49
blackmaili just have one last question15:49
blackmaileagles0513875: great ^^15:49
blackmailthe question is: i have a ntfs partition with only data on it, how do i access it with Kubuntu ?15:49
llutz!ntfs-3g | blackmail15:49
ubotublackmail: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions15:49
blackmailthanks llutz ^^15:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:57
juliewhere is the source for realplayer15:57
JucatoI don't think there is...15:58
Jucato(that's why it's not distributed in our repositories)15:59
juliewell how do I play a real media file15:59
blackmailVLC ?15:59
Jucatooh you mean package for realplayer?15:59
JucatoI thought you meant source *code*16:00
Jucato(that's what "source" usually means in the Free Software world)16:00
julie realplayer package16:00
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org16:00
JucatoI think they have that16:00
Jucatoalthough I can play most .rm's in Kaffeine with the proper codecs installed16:00
julieright is there anything like automatix anymore what is the latest issue with that?16:01
juliethere was something like easy ubuntu that did the same thing16:01
blackmailJucato: the default font in konqueror is a bit small, any way to change that ?16:01
Jucatojulie: both are gone now. try simply installing Kubuntu Restricted Extras16:01
Jucatoblackmail: as a Web Browser or as a File Manager?16:01
blackmailJucato: as a web browser16:02
JucatoSettings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts16:02
Jucatoset them up there16:02
julieare hdprams all setup up automatically ?16:09
dedeldedelanybody from Rio Brasil?16:14
juliehow do i get flash working in ff?16:17
DreadKnightjulie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:17
DreadKnightwhich is a meta package, cointaing .. um .. flash-nonfree or how it's called16:18
DreadKnightright :-)16:20
juliethis is why pclinuxos beats kxubuntu hands down16:21
DreadKnightjulie: i really don't see why16:22
llutzbecause it has flash built-in?16:22
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ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:22
julieDreadKnight: because I have been spending the past two hours setting up packages that are out of the box with pclinuxos16:22
DreadKnightjulie: which packages?16:23
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate16:23
julieDreadKnight: read my previous posts16:23
Jucatojulie: didn't I just tell you to install Kubuntu Restricted Extras earlier?16:23
DreadKnightjulie: then why haven't you stayed on pclinuxos... ? still a linux :P16:23
Jucatowell, to be fair, Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS has different philosophies, even if they might be targetting the same market16:24
DreadKnightjulie: i wasn't on the channel :P16:24
julieit would not install on this old system..16:24
Jucato!msgthebot | matt_16:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about programs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:25
ubotumatt_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.16:25
DreadKnightjulie: so good that it doesn't even install..16:25
DreadKnightubuntu has the best hardware support out of the box from what i've seen16:26
DreadKnightyou can install tons of applications with a single like from konsole16:26
DreadKnightsingle line*16:26
Jucato[22:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats <--- julie: read the first and 3rd links for more information on why this is so in Ubuntu16:27
juliewill ubuntu ever become outr of the boxd16:28
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:28
Jucatoproprietary/non-free stuff installed by default? no. it would go against its philosophy (and if it ever did that, you could consider Ubuntu a liar). Easy to install? yes. I just told you how (twice)16:29
Jucatojulie: ^^^^16:29
DreadKnightit just can't be out of the box for everyone16:31
ompshi all16:31
DreadKnightthat's why there are online repositories..16:31
julieI am willing to pay for these software how much would it cost?16:36
julieflash, java, codec etc16:36
Jucatojulie: "non-free" here doesn't mean you have to pay for them16:37
Jucatothey mean that they are restricted in some sense, like not having their source code available, or not being able to redistribute them freely, or have patents involved16:37
Jucatojulie: and again, I told you (now's the third time), just install Kubuntu Restricted Extras (kubuntu-restricted-extras) to get all of these!16:38
neville_Maybe a troll?16:39
Jucatomaybe.. or just really confused/clueless/new... giving the benefit of the doubt16:40
DreadKnightjulie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras16:40
Jucato(patience running low though)16:41
DreadKnightmeta package installing all that proprietary crap you listed16:41
lovrehow do i unrar everything in subfolders (recursive)?16:44
julieI know. but what I'm trying to get to is that if there was a ubuntu paid version for maybe very little money like £10 I would be willing to download it and to bypass the manual apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras16:44
jussio1does anyone know how to open .ace archives?16:44
Daisuke_Idolovre, i've been trying to find that out16:44
Daisuke_Idojussi01, 7zip should be able to andle them16:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:45
sparr_[how] can i make apt download multiple files *at the same time*? (note emphasis)16:45
jhutchinsjulie: I think Mandriva and SuSE offer something like that16:45
Daisuke_Idoif not...16:45
Daisuke_Ido!info unace16:45
ubotuunace (source: unace): extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-5 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB16:45
jhutchinsjulie: The problem is that we're not talking just about free in terms of dollars here.16:45
jussio1Daisuke_Ido: thanks!16:45
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome16:45
jhutchinsjulie: Some of the packages are not free as in companies are not free to distribute them,16:45
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash16:45
neville_You only have to do it once though julie, and that's it...16:45
jhutchinsjulie: Only the branded version is "legal" to distribute in the U.S.16:45
juliehow do mandriva mange to do it then16:46
jhutchinsjulie: In order to legally distribute some of it, a company has to have a license agreement allowing them to provide the software - and some software companies won't let other companies do that, even for a fee.16:46
jhutchinsjulie: Some of the software is just linked to the original distributor.16:47
lovreDaisuke_Ido: i think i have found a way. Try this: "unrar x -r . "16:47
jhutchinsjulie: So while the commercial versions of other distros may have some of the software, they don't have everything.16:47
lovreDaisuke_Ido: position yourself in parent folder first16:47
DreadKnightjulie: fire the damn konsole and paste in it: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:47
jhutchinsjulie: As people have told you here though, it's not that hard to get around if you know the right way to handle it.16:47
jhutchinsDreadKnight: I believe she has the answer now, she's discussing the why & how of it.16:48
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:48
julieI thought it was a matter of paying for that part of the software.. so its just that some companies just don't want to sell the software16:49
jhutchinsDreadKnight: To someone coming from the mostly-propietary world of Windows, or the all-propietary world of Apple, it's not immedately clear what the differences are.16:49
juliethats really sad16:49
juliei like kxubuntu because of large community16:49
julieany very tollerant16:49
jhutchinsjulie: Exactly.  Throw in a little more complexity because of mixing the reasons together.16:49
neville_Yeah, but what are you gonna do, apart from sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras :P16:49
jussio1Hey! can we take the "discussion" to #kubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel open for support please?16:49
juliei guess we just have to work on alternatives16:50
jhutchinsjussio1: Did you have a support question we missed?16:50
jussio1jhutchins: thats irrellevant :)16:50
julieokay I'll go to kubutnu offtopic16:50
kaminixWhy on earth does plasma depend on a strigi lib?16:51
neville_what the hell is plasma?16:51
kaminix!language | neville_16:51
ubotuneville_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:51
DreadKnightneville_: kde4 new desktop functionality xD16:52
kaminixPlasma is a part of the KDE 4 desktop.16:52
jussio1kaminix: thats kinda more a kde4 question, but I have no idea. ( #kubuntu-kde4 for that in future)16:52
kaminixApparently it depends on libstrigiqtdbusclient016:52
neville_Hell isn't bad language.. but okay >>16:52
kaminixneville_: I don't really care, personally, but some people may consider it bad language and it should be kept out of the channel. That's what I learned when first comming here.16:53
juliei can't seem to playback flash files on youtube.. any idea why.. it freezes and ff has to be terminated16:53
jhutchinsWe try to set a high standard of civility here.  It can be enlightening to live up to it.16:54
jussio1!fffc | julie16:54
ubotujulie: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )16:54
DreadKnightfirefox freezes a lot for me16:54
neville_Oh dear.. -__v16:54
DreadKnightespecially when closing tabs containing flash16:54
DreadKnightklash/gnash for the win!16:56
jhutchinsDreadKnight: Use konqueror.16:56
DreadKnightjhutchins i can't16:56
DreadKnightjhutchins dependencies broken and i can't install it T_T16:57
DreadKnighti'm on hardy16:57
jhutchinsDreadKnight: Opera?16:57
DreadKnightopen source fanatic...16:57
DreadKnightopera was the best...16:57
jhutchinsI'll bet I can still find most of the history bugs I reported on Mosaic in the firefox code - patched around, perhaps, but still there.16:58
juliethis is the line I have to add to firefoxrc16:59
julieexport XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=116:59
BluesKajI had a bad crash yesterday , been trying to repair files but cupsys is in bad shape  "E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing." when i try to sudo apt-get update ... any ideas ?17:02
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spirooIf I download a several torrents in high speed and compiling kde at the same time my computer went very slow. I wondering, does this processes affect the CPU most or what components could it be?17:02
StroganoffBluesKaj: sudo apt-get clean17:02
BluesKajyeah , done that Stroganoff17:03
spirooDreadnight: Did you answer me?17:03
DreadKnightsudo apt-get autoremove ?17:03
DreadKnightspiroo: notreally... but compilation and torrents are very resource demanding17:04
eagles0513875kaminix: what up17:04
Stroganoffspiroo check the swapfile usage17:05
jacalopespiroo: you can use 'top' to learn which processes are using the cpu, mem, etc...17:05
spirooDreadKnight: Yea I noticed that ;) ust wondering which components that takes most of it. It does not have a to great CPU :P17:05
spirooStroganoff: How do you mean?17:05
DreadKnightspiroo: ctrl + Esc17:05
juliedose anhyone else here have problems playing flash movies on youtueb?17:05
spiroonspluginviewer takes 40-45% of my CPU? :S What is that?17:06
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nonewmsgsjulie: yes i have.17:06
DreadKnightspiroo: webpages in ktorrent or webpages using flash in konqueror?17:07
DreadKnightmy guess17:07
julienonewmsgs: how do we fix it17:07
eagles0513875julie: do u have the flashplugin-nonfree instaled17:07
juliethis isn't a problem in pclinuxos17:07
julieeagles0513875: yes17:07
spirooDreadKnight: Well I havent konqueror or any webpages in Ktorrent open :S17:07
DreadKnightspiroo:  xD17:07
eagles0513875julie: did u restart ur browser after installing the pkg17:07
julieeagles0513875: yes17:08
spirooIt is something else, that takes extreme power from my CPU :D17:08
nonewmsgsthe weird thing is it used to work and a couple weeks ago stopped giving me love like a PO'ed gf17:08
eagles0513875julie: interesting cuz i havent had that issue17:08
spirooWondering what it could be :S17:08
spiroojacalope: What are you meaning with "top"?17:08
eagles0513875julie: have you tried clearing cookies cache and everything17:08
BluesKajnon of autoremoves or get cleans work .the error is still the same .. the ' partial' file is still missing from, /var/cache/apt/archives17:09
eagles0513875julie: you on gutsy or hardy17:09
jacalopespiroo: in a terminal window, type 'top', or run a kde equiv... system monitor i think it's labelled as...17:09
DreadKnightBluesKaj: hardy beta?17:10
eagles0513875DreadKnight: the release candidate is out17:10
DreadKnightjacalope: or just press ctrl + ESC :P17:10
jacalopeanyone here use kmail with imap?  I have a problem where kmail gets stuck in synch mode... emails read become unread, etc...17:10
errpastI need a laptop that works out of box with Ubuntu17:10
eagles0513875julie: im not if they fixed the bug in gutsy but in hardy its working for me im listening to something on you tube now17:10
BluesKajDreadKnight, Gutsy17:10
DreadKnighteagles0513875: my beta should have updated then :P17:10
errpastI don't want to hack right now17:10
errpastAny suggestions?17:10
errpastAny favorites?17:11
eagles0513875DreadKnight: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:11
DreadKnighterrpast: buy from Dell with ubuntu preinstalled? xD17:11
julieso i have to upgrade to hardy17:11
jacalopeDreadKnight: hey wow... who knew?17:11
DreadKnighteagles0513875: well it's upgraded for sure then xD17:11
BluesKajdell was selling ubuntu laptops17:11
nonewmsgseagles0513875: clearing cache and cookies fixed mine thanks!17:11
eagles0513875julie: let me find out something for ya really quick17:11
eagles0513875BluesKaj: they still are17:11
spiroojacalope: Okay, already has the system monitor open. But Im damn curious about nspluginviewer. Oh yes, remembered that I am using kDE4 :D COuld it be something in Terminal, ktorrent, amarok that uses nspluginviewer?17:11
DreadKnightjacalope: um... everybody else? xD17:11
eagles0513875julie: you running gutsy on a test machine17:12
errpastYa, I see a m1330 there for about $100017:12
julieno eagles0513875 what do you mean test machine17:12
jacalopeDreadKnight: yeah, yeah... i'm an old guy.... i like CLI17:13
eagles0513875julie: do u have data on the machine ur on now17:13
juliejulie: yes personal data17:13
eagles0513875julie: i would recommend backing it all up i was having issues trying to figure out how to get the upgrade thing to work17:13
julieso what do you suggest to upgrade to hardy..17:14
eagles0513875julie: you can try it and at least that way if something gets borked you have ur data backedup17:14
juliealso my data is on a diffrerent partition17:14
* DreadKnight goes to get very very drunk.17:14
julieso to upgrade to hardy I have to change all the gutsy names to hardy in the sources.list17:14
eagles0513875julie: then in that case you can just reformat the root partition and leave what ever other partitions u have intact17:15
eagles0513875julie: its different now now messing with source list17:15
eagles0513875julie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu17:15
juliethat link is for a cdrom .. I'm using internet17:16
eagles0513875!sourceomatic | julie17:17
ubotujulie: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.17:17
eagles0513875julie: thats the only way to really do it cuz the other way by changing the sources would break alot of stuff17:17
juliewhere is that .. I cant' find it17:18
julieApplications / K menu17:18
madohi guys17:18
madosomebody sent me the following link17:19
eagles0513875julie: the cd upgrade is used in conjunction with the internet its to check pkg dependencies and whats been removed from previous installation17:19
madobut i don't have debian installed and i heard it wasn't wise to install e.g. an etch-deb-package17:19
madowhat do you think?17:19
madowas this person right?17:19
eagles0513875mado: you are running kubuntu right17:19
madoyes ... i'm running kubuntu ... 7.1017:20
julieso I have to download the cd then use it17:20
juliewhat if someone dosen't have a cdrw17:20
eagles0513875mado: kubuntu is debian based so that pkg is fine to use17:20
ryanakcaeagles0513875: no17:20
ryanakcamado: install the 'scummvm' package from the repositories17:20
DreadKnightjulie: you need to add the hardy repository...17:21
madoi installed it ... but it is an old one17:21
eagles0513875julie: i just did a clean install since i was already on hardy beta17:21
madoisn't there a newer version in another repository?17:21
ryanakcamado: 'sudo aptitude install scummvm' or go to Adept and install it from there :)17:21
ryanakca!info scummvm17:21
ubotuscummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1build1 (gutsy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 4244 kB17:21
madoyeah! ...17:21
madothat's the old one17:21
julieDreadKnight: we are not getting anywhere here . can I change all the gutsy to hardy in the sources list to upgrade17:21
madoScummVM 0.11.1 is the latest one17:22
eagles0513875julie: do u have the gutsy cd17:22
DreadKnightjulie: it's an old methor of doing things... ok..17:22
ryanakcamado: ah, sorry. Hmm... Well, hardy has 0.11.1-1 , gutsy doesn't. Well, you could try, but your mileage may vary and it isn't a supported method17:22
madoryanakca, ... pardon?17:22
ryanakcamado: (aka, some dependencies might not be at the right version in the gutsy repository)17:23
ryanakcamado: you can try, but it will most likely break, and it isn't a supported method17:23
eagles0513875ryanakca: julie would like to upgrade to hardy the old fashioned way changing the source list could you walk her through the new method of upgrading17:23
DreadKnightjulie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu17:23
ryanakcaeagles0513875: sorry, I need to go eat17:23
eagles0513875ryanakca: ok17:23
madouhuu ... i see ... well ... then i will play with the old version or will wait the next few days to pass and install "heron" :)17:23
ryanakcamado: sorry I can't be of more help, I need to go have lunch17:23
eagles0513875DreadKnight: youre walking over ground i already covered17:23
ryanakcamado: goodies :D17:23
madodo that!17:23
kaminixeagles0513875: Cleaning my install from somesuperfluos applications :p17:24
madoenjoy it!17:24
DreadKnighteagles0513875: um.. ok..17:24
madobon appetit!17:24
eagles0513875kaminix: lol like what17:24
kaminixeagles0513875: kmag, strigi, dolphin etc ^^17:24
madomaybe you can explain later to me ... why it is bad to install a debian-package17:24
eagles0513875mado: its not all the pkgs in the repos r .deb17:25
madobut please explain it in a simple way ... so that i can tell my parents too if they want to know it17:25
eagles0513875mado: older versions possibly depend on older dependencies which have probably been improved or phased out so if you install something new u might now have the proper dependencies and can create numerous problems17:26
eagles0513875kaminix: i need to start doing that and taking notes of what i removed for my os17:26
eagles0513875julie: do u have a gutsy cd17:26
kaminixeagles0513875: Why take notes?17:26
eagles0513875kaminix: so if i break anything and have to reinstall i can and remember what i did dont forget this is for my cluster os development17:26
kaminixWhat exactly is a Cluster OS?17:27
eagles0513875kaminix: take a bunch of desktop pc's and make them function as one aka main frame but a whole lot cheaper17:27
kaminixFor what purpose would you want to do that?17:28
eagles0513875kaminix: is ur nick registered17:29
kaminixIt is17:29
eagles0513875ok imgoing to private chat with ya17:29
errpastanyone used a ergo 4000 microsoft keyboard with kubuntu?17:30
errpastI've got rsi17:30
errpastI need it to work17:30
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jacalopehi all... looked for info on this kmail bug but can't find it.... first: kde: 3.5.9, kmail: 1.9.9.... when using imap, gets stuck in synch, repeats indefininitely.... read emails become unread.... anyone have an idea, link, etc...?17:36
user__hi all17:36
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MakuseruWhat are some programs that will play DVDs? I tried Kaffeine, but it said it needed codecs, asked me if i watned to install them, i clicked yes, but nothing happened. Are there any others?17:39
the-ermerrpast: I've never had problems with keyboards ... I usually plug them in and go.  You might need to use xev to figure out the codes for the keys, and then edit the name of a file that escapes me at this time :)17:39
the-ermJust google xev keyboard setup, and you should find what you need.17:40
the-ermMakuseru: You're going to need ... I think it's called css lib or lib css.  Not sure to be honest, because I don't use the computer to watch dvds.17:41
Makuseruthe-erm: i found it, libdvdcss217:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:41
the-ermMakuseru: I all you have to do is enable the "restricted" repository in adept_manager.17:41
the-ermBut be careful it could be against the law in your country to install it.17:42
Makuseruthe-erm: i found it, libdvdcss217:42
the-ermI'm wondering if I should install the RC for 8.04.17:43
the-ermLast time I upgraded it wasn't fun.17:43
the-ermIf I did it now, I wonder if it would be easier when the official 8.04 came out.17:44
the-ermWell less downloads anyways ...17:44
BluesKajthe-erm, the "official release " is only 4 days away17:45
the-ermLast time they released it took forever to download ...17:45
the-ermI wanted apt-torrent to exist very badly.  Then again I had quite a few weird repositories in the list.17:46
BluesKajI have a bunch of broken pkges so I'm doing a clean install in a week or so , once the DL activity dies down somewhat17:46
the-ermIt's always the same ... an impatient itch comes over me when its about time for the new one to come out.17:47
jacalopehow do you downgrade a package (like kmail) to an earlier version?17:49
DarkShinigamiHello all.17:50
BluesKajmy problem is I don't know what broke my networking apps like samba and cupsys, so a clean install may not fix what is broken ...could be something on the windows network side17:50
DarkShinigamiI am using a Dell SmartStep 250N. How can I get the FN function and top "Easy Launch Keys" to work?17:51
the-ermBluesKaj: are you running inside a vm?17:52
ryanakcamado: Hi, back, sorry, my parents were shouting at me to go eat. Ok, still need the explanation?17:52
the-ermThen changes of windows breaking something inside kubuntu is practically nill.17:52
madowell ... sorry that they shouted at you ... and yes ... please explain it to me17:53
the-ermBluesKaj: I would check the network settings.17:54
BluesKajyeah the-erm , that's what I "was" thing as well , but I'm beginning to wonder17:54
the-ermOf course if you're in here, I think your network is fine.17:55
the-ermYou probably need to restart your cups.sys files.17:55
the-ermer daemon.17:55
ryanakcamado: OK, packages have dependencies, that's to say, it depends on other packages to run. However, when you install a package from say Debian, that hasn't been backported or prepared for your current system,17:55
the-ermI recall not too long ago that cups had an update.17:55
the-ermMaybe something in /etc/cups got overwritten.17:56
BluesKajnope, they're damaged beyond repair I'm afraid17:56
joralguien habla español17:56
joren esta17:56
ryanakcamado: the versions of the dependencies of the package you wish to install might not be correct. ex: A-1.0 depends on B-3.2.2, but on your system, you can only install B-
DarkShinigami!sp | jor17:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:57
ryanakca!es | jor17:57
ubotujor: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:57
BluesKajthe-erm, E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.17:57
DarkShinigami!es | jor17:57
madook ... i see ... thanks ryanakca ... is this the "only" problem?17:58
ryanakcamado: because the dependencies aren't at the right version, the program will often break and crash at wierd times. If other programs depend on that program, then those programs also break. Thus it creates a big chain of breakage that wouldn't exist if you had stayed with the original Ubuntu package. Installing 3rd party packages might also cause issues when upgrading.17:59
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madouhuu ... i see ... thank you very much for that explanation17:59
the-ermBluesKaj: make it :) sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial;17:59
BluesKajyeah did that18:00
ryanakcamado: thus, it isn't recommended. You can try, but no garanty. (personally, I'd just upgrade to Hardy today, or wait four days until release)18:00
ryanakcaAnd you're quite welcome :)18:00
madowell ... i will wait :)18:00
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BluesKajthe-erm, aha , forgot the semi colon at the end of the command , thx ...seems to be working now18:01
the-ermBluesKaj: It needs to have 755 for the perms, and root:root for the owners.18:02
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nosrednaekimhey ang3lo518:03
ang3lo5quick question18:04
BluesKajthe-erm, sorry to say , i got several errors,  Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-common-dev_0.6.20-2ubuntu3.3_i386.deb ..is an example18:04
the-ermI don't know if it's a good idea to rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb or not.18:04
ang3lo5my video playback is crapy..i tried vlc too...also crapy with HD video rips....18:05
the-ermang3lo5: are you sure you're using the right driver?18:05
kostas2505hello to all!18:05
ang3lo5ati driver was installed18:06
the-ermI use the open gl driver ... can't remember the official name, but xine seems to work ok.18:06
nosrednaekimang3lo5: what video card?18:06
ang3lo5*new to linux and i find ubuntu perfect...just this litle think bothers me...18:07
ang3lo5x800 pci-e18:07
Signilhi I am trying ot get my acer orbicam to work here.. downloaded the gspca drivers .. but it isn't detected :s18:07
kostas2505if possible i'd like to ask if there is way update drivers automatically since my knowledge in kubuntu and linux in general are up to installing the distribution NOTHING MORE18:08
nosrednaekimkostas2505: they are automatically updated18:08
nosrednaekimang3lo5: ok, what driver are you using? fglrx or the Open source ati18:08
the-ermkostas2505: Usually adept_notifier will pop up in your taskbar when updates are available.  I recommend against running apt-get update; apt-get upgrade automatically, because if something breaks, you don't know what packages were installed last.18:09
the-ermIf you know what's being installed, you might have an idea of where to look if something stops working.18:10
ang3lo5it was automatically downloaded....:( cant say....i dont know how i can see my devices also so i can check drivers ver.18:10
the-ermIt seems like whenever postfix I have to make sure everything is ok in /etc/postfix.18:10
kostas2505i think that does not include e.g:cosmote usb portable modem ?18:10
the-ermone day I'm going to learn how to talk in complete sentences.18:11
ang3lo5me to18:11
ang3lo5is there something like a device manager in ub8.04?18:12
BluesKajwhat's the runbox equivalent in kde4 ?18:12
nosrednaekimang3lo5: ok, its simple enough, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:12
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: Krunner?18:13
BluesKajrun command18:13
nosrednaekimang3lo5: I think there might be, but i'm not sure, "sudo lshw" will tell you everything though18:13
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah, krunner18:13
nosrednaekimang3lo5: and support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+118:14
nosrednaekimfor another 4 days :P18:14
ang3lo5thank you :)18:14
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ang3lo5found it...driver is fglrx18:16
FFForeverhow would i upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04?18:17
the-ermFFForever: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu18:17
the-ermYou have to download the alt cd.18:18
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jussio1FFForever: you eed to go incrementally, ie. 7.04, 7.10, 8.0418:18
FFForeveri have to upgrade to 7.10 first?18:19
tanjahallo bräuchte hilfe beim einrichten kubuntu18:21
jussio1FFForever: correct18:22
jussio1!de | tanja18:23
ubotutanja: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:23
FFForeveris 8.04 safe?, for real use?, not just vmware.....18:25
jussio1FFForever: Im on it now, and it comes out in a few days. if its a real big problem, wat for the next 4 days, its not that long18:26
ryanakcaFFForever: yes, you would need to upgrade to 7.10 before upgrading to 8.0418:26
FFForeverill just wipe ^_^18:26
Signilhi.. my acrer orbicam isn't detected! pls help18:41
poseidonI am dualbooting openSuse and wiindows xp, how would I go about installing kubuntu over openSuse?18:59
stdinposeidon: just format the partition during the kubuntu install process19:00
BioVorEyou can setup the partitions manualy in the Kubuntu installer19:02
BluesKajposeidon , are using the live cd ?19:03
poseidonBluesKaj, I'm going to use one for kubuntu, yes.19:03
`ubuntu_user`test msg19:04
BluesKajuse the partition manager to choose the linux partition(either ext2 or ext3)  and overwrite it with ext3 .19:04
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poseidonIn order to get internet, I have to install a driver.  Can I do this on the livecd then use the driver to connect to the internet during the install?19:05
BluesKajno connection to the internet with the live cd ?19:06
poseidonBluesKaj, when I had ubuntu, I had to install a driver in order to get a connection.19:06
BluesKajwhich ubuntu version was that ?19:07
poseidonBluesKaj, 8.04 beta19:08
BluesKajI would try to install kubuntu before worrying about a driver. It may not be necessary.19:10
BluesKajthe driver you used with suse should be ok , if you have it available19:11
latitu how to run an app as system service on boot?19:14
maduserI think throug cron or by adding it to the start up script19:16
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto19:17
maduserthat was it rc.local19:17
latitumaduser stdin thx19:17
latitustdin iam trying to startup firestarter at boot . i lll put it in rc.local. will that make it system servcie and how  to avoide password?19:18
stdinfirestarter starts on boot anyway19:19
stdinthe GUI doesn't, but the iptables rules get loaded19:19
poseidonHow do I get to gparted from the 8.04 livecd?  I am dualbooting openSuse and xp.  I want to delete openSuse and install ubuntu.19:21
latituit doesnt starts on boot19:21
stdinlatitu: how do you know it doesn't?19:21
stdinponingru: just install over it19:22
BluesKajposeidon, have you chosen the install option yet ?19:24
latituwhat does /etc/init.d do?19:25
poseidonBluesKah, no19:25
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dkkdkkc4newbie here19:26
stdinlatitu: it contains startup scripts19:26
Stroganofflatitu it is a folder containing scripts for starting and stopping system wide services19:26
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BluesKajthat's the path to follow , click on install in order to get to the partition manager19:26
poseidonBluesKaj, k thinks19:26
latituso what is more powerful and unstopable. init.d or rc.local?19:26
stdinlatitu: /etc/rc.local gets started from /etc/init.d/rc.local19:27
BluesKajtoo many ubuntus in here19:29
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.19:29
BluesKajoops , that's not it19:30
geniiBluesKaj: I'd rather see 100 "ubuntu"s than 1 "root"19:30
BluesKajhi genii, yeah especially in the showers :)19:31
geniiBluesKaj: hehe19:31
latitustdin so init.d is powerful. and i wonder why theres a need for rc.local if init.d does that?19:31
stdinlatitu: rc.local is used to put commands in when you don't want to write a startup script, put it in /etc/init.d and setup the links19:32
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BluesKajgenii, my network is 'borked', and got all kinds of broken packages, all to do with cups, so installs and updates are also blocked19:33
geniiBluesKaj: Ouch. I'd consider a clean install19:34
BluesKajtried replacing the missing debs but no joy19:34
BluesKajyeah, guess it's in the works next week19:35
geniiBluesKaj: Maybe you have mixed repos (Gutsy/Hardy or so)19:35
BluesKajnope, no hardy19:35
BluesKajchecked the sources.list19:36
geniiOther things that come to mind are maybe messing with apt pinning19:36
BluesKajwell, I'm sure i did 'something' :)19:37
BluesKajaltho my Tivo connection is still ok19:38
geniiBluesKaj: Since it's almost always 3 times more difficult to undo/clean/diagnose these types of embedded probs the prudent thing is just a reinstall19:39
BluesKajyeah, gonna do it when Hardy is official19:40
geniiOh yeah, Thursday :)19:40
BluesKajaltho I 've heard that theis latest release is prolly as good as it's gonna get :)19:40
BluesKajbeta that is19:41
geniiBluesKaj: I've heard rumours of 8.04.1 for sometime first week or so of May19:41
ToMMmMMMMHi, I'm having problems finding a network on my wifi card... When I first installed it..it was fine but after I rebooted a couple times it can't find a network :( Any helps?19:42
DarkShinigamiIs there an official date for the relast of 8.04?19:45
tomaz_yes, there is.19:45
geniiDarkShinigami: April 2419:45
tomaz_really near =)19:45
DarkShinigami:) T minus 4 days19:45
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fadeyHi. I've upgraded to hardy RC. On booting I get :ALERT! /dev/sda2 doesn't exist. How do I combat that?19:46
geniifadey: Perhaps they'll know in #ubuntu+119:47
narothepharohi am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?19:59
jparishyI asked this question in #linux, but i figure i might as well ask here too.19:59
jparishyHey. I have kubuntu installed on my mac book but i recently resized one of my partitions and since then i cannot boot up into linux.  Usually I hold the option key down on startup to show me a menu of the os's on the computer, but linux doesn't show up anymore. Furthermore, I tried setting the linux partition to boot automatically (via "bless" command in osx) but that just hangs the computer. The data in the os is still there as I can mo19:59
DarkShinigaminarothepharoh: Do you have xscreensaver installed?20:01
narothepharohDarkShinigami: it was not but i just installed it do you think this will help?20:02
BluesKajjparishy, download the Ultimate Boot Disk and burn it..it's very useful at restoring bootloader menus20:02
jparishyThanks :D20:03
maduserwhats the kde customize program?20:03
DarkShinigaminarothepharoh: It should. I recall that being the solution for me a while back20:03
jparishyWill do20:03
DarkShinigamiBluesKaj: Is that similar to SGD?20:03
narothepharohDarkShinigami: I will wait to see if it comes on ill write back in a few minutes. Thank You20:04
DarkShinigaminarothepharoh: NP. Hope it works20:04
BluesKajDarkShinigami, yes20:04
sourcemaker_is there a good book to understand the Linux Kernel. (Architecture, Development.. and so on)...20:15
narothepharohDarkShinigami: it is still not working any more ideas? the screen just goes blank when the screensaver is supposed to kick on20:18
EarthwingsHi, a question on upgrading: Can I use a command line upgrade like this? Update all packages, change things in sources.list to read hoary, update again? Or does the graphical version do more?20:20
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes20:20
DarkestHouryou should be able to apply those to hardy20:20
Earthwingsubotu: it doesn't cover it20:20
DarkestHourthat does.20:21
JoshOvkiEarthwings: when i last upgraded i killed my install cause it hang, might be worth making a data backup first20:21
narothepharohi am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?20:21
EarthwingsDarkestHour: i'm looking for a command line version20:21
DarkestHourrun sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:22
DarkestHourthat should do it command line.20:22
EarthwingsJoshOvki: yeah, i plan to test it on one of the workstations before i do them all :)20:22
icewatermanwhat tool can i use to create 1 pdf from a large amount of images?20:27
narothepharohi am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?20:30
Earthwingsicewaterman: imagemagick (convert,mogrify,...)20:31
icewatermanEarthwings: imagemagick is for manipulating images20:33
junkieOkay, so i downloaded and burned the ultimate boot cd and ran it on the computer, but I'm not sure what i need to do to fix the problem. Anyone know?20:33
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icewatermanEarthwings: the images are already fine, just wanna print them all into a single pdf file20:33
Earthwingsicewaterman: one page each?20:34
icewatermanEarthwings: yes20:35
icewatermanEarthwings: but only 1 will fit onto one page anyway, so the program doesnt even need to know that i want 1 page each, they will simply just fit20:36
asifHello there...20:36
lz1gjdcould anyone tell me how to connect to a vpn in hardy rc , pls ?20:36
icewatermanlz1gjd: -> #ubuntu+120:36
Odd-rationale!hardy | lz1gjd20:36
ubotulz1gjd: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu20:36
Earthwingsicewaterman: personally i'd write a script to generate a .tex file and have latex do the rest20:36
asifA quick question: "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008", I get this error chaning password...any ideas whats wrong20:36
Earthwingsasif: is that time in the future in your timezone?20:37
asifhello earthwings... 20.4 is today, how could it be future?20:38
asifi want to change password to login as root in order to do many things..but i cant do it. any help... it is 8.04 kubuntu beta20:39
icewatermanEarthwings: i am gonna use gtklp20:40
skabetasif: can't you use sudo?20:41
biopodHi all, a quick question, how can i remove dolphin from KDE4 7.10 ?20:42
KetrelI may have found a bug, but before I go to file it, could anyone else comment, none of the keyboard shortcuts under Miscellaneous (in the system settings), have any effect (Gutsy using KDE3)20:42
Odd-rationalebiopod: try in #kubuntu-kde420:42
biopodok, thanks20:43
asifskabet: i can. but i want to use root account to login once and do everything once. but chpasswd fails saying "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008"20:43
asifthis is so strange20:43
skabetasif: what about adding yourself to root group for a while being20:44
kde-develHi, I discovered a huge bug in KDE :D20:44
skabetasif: is chpasswd the same as passwd ?20:44
asifah...just a sec...lemme check20:44
PhilRodkde-devel: report it on bugs.kde.org20:45
skabetasif: sudo passwd root20:45
skabetasif: try that20:45
icewatermanEarthwings: ok, that was a really bad idea20:45
kde-develFor a moment ago my disk space for / went totally out, which mean 0 b free. That should not even be possible. anyway, when I restartaed computer and should login as usual. Guess what, KDE did not start because there was no space left. i hade to manually in temrinal mode delete files with rm, which I hope I never have to do again.20:46
asifsudo passwd root20:46
asifsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 200820:46
asifthis is what happens20:46
skabetno idea then :)20:46
Earthwingsasif: just use sudo su20:46
Earthwingsafterwards you're root20:46
kde-develPhilRod: I do not know how to do that. They always require so damn many details and everything.20:46
Earthwingsasif: the root account is disabled in /etc/passwd, you have to edit it first to use it20:47
asifsudo passwd root20:47
asifsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 200820:47
asifsame result20:47
asifis it a bug?20:47
Earthwingsicewaterman: maybe you can use gwenview or some other image viewer20:47
Earthwingsicewaterman: open the directory with the images, print and choose pdf a sprinter20:47
JoshOvkiasif: whats your BIOS time and date at?20:47
Earthwingsicewaterman: didn't try that though20:47
asifhow do i check it joshovki?20:47
PhilTrunkkde-devel: well, them's the breaks. If you want to report bugs, you have to provide details20:48
Earthwingsasif: 'sudo su' does give that warning?20:48
JoshOvkirestart, hit F1, Esc or Del   (what ever your bios require) and take a look in there. not sure if you can do it from command20:48
icewatermanEarthwings: but i did - doesnt work20:48
kde-develEarthwings, asif: Do you possibly know how to change from kdesu to kdesudo in kde trunk? Because when I am logged in to trunk I cannot enter for instance adept because kdesu does not accept kdesudo passwords for root.20:48
Earthwingsicewaterman: it only prints one image?20:48
PhilTrunkkde-devel: anyway, it's not that hard - go to bugs.kde.org, sign up for an account, then fill in the bug wizard20:48
asifyes earthwings..it gives exactly the same message as i quoted above20:48
icewatermanEarthwings: one works, multiple dont20:49
kde-develPhilTrunk: Okay, I guess20:49
Earthwingsasif: what does 'date' tell you?20:49
Stepa1I am using Ubuntu and I need help with installing the Monkey Audio Plugin for K3b.20:49
icewatermanEarthwings: probably gonna do this in windows, freepdf xp is quite nice for that20:49
Earthwingsicewaterman: some other image gallery tool? konqueror can do galleries, you could print that20:49
Stepa1I followed all instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 and did not get any errors20:49
asifsudo passwd root20:49
asifsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 200820:49
asifSun Apr 20 21:49:31 CEST 200820:50
Earthwingsasif: not "sudo passwd root", but "sudo su"20:50
JoshOvkiasif: try this  sudo -k20:50
asifHere is it20:50
asifsudo su20:50
asifsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 200820:50
mweWhere do I find the utility for changing the ksplash theme?20:50
dylan_On Hardy, my monitor's resolution isn't recogized properly and the correct resolution (1280x1024) isn't available through they system config tool.20:51
dylan_Anyknow know how I might be able to fix this?20:51
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Earthwingskde-devel: the account needs to be part of the admin group20:51
dylan_I used to be able to hand edit the xorg.conf file, but there are no modelines in there anymore.20:51
Earthwingskde-devel: for sudo to work20:51
asifJoshOvki....THANK YOU sudo -k worked like magic :)20:51
Stepa1Can anyone help with the install of the monkey plugin for k3b20:51
Earthwingsdylan_: use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'20:52
asifthank you earthwings too.20:52
dylan_Earthwings: I tried that already. Thanks.20:52
asifand all the forum20:52
Earthwingsasif: np20:52
dylan_Earthwings: That only lets me reconfigure my keyboard on Hardy.20:52
Earthwingsdylan_: hm, let me check myself20:53
kde-develEarthwings: Yes, I know. All my accounts are. The problem is kde su which differs from kde sudo.20:53
icewatermanEarthwings: how does konqueror create galleries?20:54
Stepa1I need help installing Monkey Audio plugin to K3b and used instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 but it didnt work20:54
Earthwingsdylan_: wow, you're right. probably this bulletproof thing interfering20:54
Earthwingsicewaterman: the one in kde 3.5 has an option in the menu "create image gallery" or something20:54
dylan_Earthwings: Well, the new Xorg server is supposed to auto-configure everything for you, but it's doing a very poor job on my hardware.20:55
mweIIRC there used to be a "Look and feel->Splash screen" entry but it seems to be gone now?20:55
dylan_And while I love auto-configuration, I need to be able to fix things when the automagic doesn't work properly.20:55
icewatermanEarthwings: ok, i also can rule that out20:56
icewatermanlinux probably has no such tool or just one i need to read 100 pages manual in order to get a 50 line-size command to do what i want20:58
Earthwingsdylan_: you're right. and i'd like the old reconfigure feature back, too20:59
Earthwingsdylan_: but i guess the old entries should still be valid, no?21:00
dylan_Earthwings: Actually, they are not. I had saved my old xorg.conf file and it just ignores it.21:00
dylan_And the one that kubuntu created during installation is pretty bare bones. It's almost empty.21:00
LaruftI've installed the ubuntu. now considering switching to kubuntu - should I do a complete format/re-install ?  also considering updating to the heron ver.  Unfortunately i've not kept track of changes to my current ubuntu install :-(21:02
LaruftI suppose i could run a diff and see the changes.21:03
icewatermanLaruft: you can have kde on ubuntu, no need to install kubuntu again21:03
EarthwingsLaruft: i'd say that installing 'kubuntu-desktop' should give a pretty kubuntuish system21:03
Laruftand can I update to heron when it comes out without reinstalling?21:03
Laruftre-formatting even21:03
EarthwingsLaruft: yes21:04
icewatermanLaruft: of course21:04
dylan_Laruft: I concur with the advise given, but if you have little of value in your existing installation, starting from a clean kubuntu install will mean that you need to upgrade fewer packages.21:05
dylan_If I were you, i would wait until the final release of Hardy and install that.21:05
Larufti've set up a few things.  I am running ubuntu server+gnome desktop  have got webmin/squid/pureftpd/dnsmasq installed etc21:06
dylan_Laruft: Then, don't heed my advice21:06
Laruftwell I am a n00b at linux, trying to switch from winxp completely21:07
Laruftstill need to set up mail server/fetcmail?21:07
LaruftI wish i logged my changes to default install, as then I could re-setup any distro21:08
rysiek|plguys, need help here21:09
rysiek|plI have apt-get removed a package21:09
rysiek|pland then rm -rf it's config dir21:09
rysiek|plbut it's still marked as "rc" - "removed, configs present"21:09
rysiek|plso neither installation nor de-installation of that package now works21:09
rysiek|plany pointers? tried purging, forcing, etc., nop luck21:10
rysiek|plit's starting to be damn frustrating21:10
Earthwingsrysiek|pl: why can't you install it?21:13
Earthwingsrysiek|pl: what error messages do you get?21:13
rysiek|plEarthwings: /usr/lib/courier/authlib/authdaemond: line 24: /etc/courier/authdaemonrc: No such file or directory21:14
rysiek|plobviously... -_-'21:14
Earthwingsrysiek|pl: when does it come up? during installation/purging of the package?21:16
rysiek|plinstallation, purging, deleting, aptitude upgrade too21:16
rysiek|plseems to me somebody fscked the packaging (why on earth the remove script actually tries to START the service?..)21:17
Earthwingsok, it might be part of the prerm/postconfig scripts21:17
stdintry "sudo touch /etc/courier/authdaemonrc", then purge21:17
rysiek|plworked like a charm21:18
rysiek|plthis is the moment to start bangin my dumb head against a wall21:18
stdinif it complains that it wants file to exist, create it ;)21:19
rysiek|plwell, it was a part of complaining about not being able to start the daemon21:19
rysiek|plso I *assumed* an empty file will not dig it (there will be a syntax error or whatever)21:19
rysiek|pland we all love assumptions, don't we21:20
gromozekinHi, All!21:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:21
ubotuDNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.21:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freebsd_install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:21
DarkestHourHi gromozekin21:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about found_beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:21
gromozekintoday i ve already installed kubuntu 7.10.21:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:22
gromozekinjoin #kubuntu-offtopic21:23
gromozekinofftopic == windows?21:23
DarkestHourOfftopic means non support talk.21:23
tsbHi. I run  kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-proposed" however "version upgrade" does not appear (gutsy to heron)21:23
gromozekinHi. Why when I use Adept Manager its download old packages (for example, Pidgin 2.2.1). I suppose it`s because default repo21:24
gromozekincan you name me smth more repos21:25
stdin0.2.0 of a release is that important to you?21:26
stdintsb: try enabling gutsy-proposed first21:26
gromozekinmaybe there are some changes (about security etc)21:26
tsbstdin: I've reduced my source.list file to 1 line; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse21:26
stdingromozekin: if there were security updates they'd have been backported already21:27
gromozekin+ how to use ndiswrapper (cheers cause i ve google)21:27
stdintsb: then you need to add another "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed main universe restricted multiverse"21:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:27
stdinthere's a whole section ^there21:27
macowhy would my keyboard work in every app except KMail's email composer?21:28
tsbstdin: okay now sources.list has those two lines; still no "version upgrade" though..21:28
stdintsb: have you clicked the "Fetch Updates" button?21:28
tsbstdin: yes21:29
tsbstdin: and tried quitting/starting again after21:29
juliehi, the resolution of my kdm login screen is much higher than the resolutioon of the screen , any idea how to fix this21:29
macotyping the email in gedit and pasting into KMail shouldn't be the only way to send one21:29
stdintsb: I'd recommend enabling "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main universe restricted multiverse" too, then do an upgrade of any package. then see if adept will work with it. if not then pop into #kubuntu-devel21:30
juliewill kde4 comeout on hardy21:31
stdinit already is21:31
macoHow do i send an encrypted email? It keeps saying the identity's not defined, but shouldn't it just pull the key that goes with the email address to which it's addressed?21:31
DarkestHourjulie: it's in the "Remix" version as default.21:31
julieI have installed two languages on my system, persian and english.. I have them both but now I want to go back to english. I have selected that but skill the kmenu and some other features are set in persian any ideas?21:32
ubuntusalve a tutti21:32
tsbstdin: thanks, it didn't work so I'm going there then21:33
thanosich bins gast28721:33
stdin!de | thanos21:33
ubotuthanos: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de21:33
stdin!it | ubuntu21:34
ubotuubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!21:34
macodoes anyone here know how to use kmail?21:34
juliemaco: what specifically do you have problem using?21:36
macojulie: it says it cant find encryption keys21:36
macojulie: but i know the key is in my gpg key list21:36
juliemaco: sorry I don't know how to use pgp..21:37
juliesomeone else might be able to help hang around21:37
macoevolution could find the key, but claimed it didnt match the person i'm sending to....i guess it's time to try thunderbird againb21:37
latitu_when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?21:37
Earthwingsmaco: gpg -K is fine?21:38
p_quarleslatitu_, do you have kdm installed?21:39
latitu_p_quarles yes.21:40
Earthwingsmaco: where are you trying to configure it? you need to setup each identiy (email adress)21:40
macoEarthwings: gpg -K? whats that do?21:40
p_quarleslatitu_, and it's set to start automatically? (ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm )21:41
Earthwingsmaco: that lists the gpg keys you configured, just to ensure that gpg itself works fine21:41
macoEarthwings: it just lists my keys. i want to encrypt a message for somebody else21:41
p_quarlesmaco, and you've signed their key already?21:42
maconormaly id use gedit and copy and paste, but i need to get the attachment to be encrypted too21:42
macop_quarles: no21:42
p_quarlesI'm no gpg expert, but don't you have to sign their key before you can make them a recipient?21:42
Earthwingsp_quarles: you need his public key, yes21:43
macop_quarles: that seems like it'd be silly...if every person that sent you anything signed your key, your key would be MASSIVE21:43
macoi have the public key21:43
macoso somewhere in kmail i have to link together his email address and his key, even though his email address is in his key?21:44
Earthwingsmaco: no21:44
Earthwingsmaco: you need to setup your own email adress for gpg, that's all21:44
macoi set it up for signing21:45
Earthwingsmaco: kmail -> configure -> identities -> choose your email adresss -> change -> cryptography -> open pgp key -> Change -> Choose21:45
macoit wont let me for encrypting21:45
macoencrypting an email for someone else shouldn't require my key though21:45
macojust theirs21:45
latitu_when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?21:46
macowhen i try to set my own encryption key in kmail, it puts a red X over it and turns off the OK button21:47
latitu_when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?21:48
p_quarleslatitu_, before repeating your question, perhaps you could answer my last one?21:48
juliemy kde resolution is too hight.. kdm actually how do I fix this?21:49
macoer....why does hitting the Send button in KMail ask if i want to leave the editor?21:49
p_quarlesmaco, what version of kmail are you using?21:50
latitu_p_quarles $ ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm21:50
macop_quarles: whatever's in hardy21:50
p_quarleslatitu_, okay, what happens if (from the terminal) you type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (instead of startx)21:51
p_quarlesmaco, the KDE3 version or KDE4?21:51
macop_quarles: there is no kde4 version21:51
ubuntuif someone doesnt mind helping a true newb out with a LinuxMCE install that i efed up21:51
rysiek|ploh yes there is21:51
latitu_p_quarles sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start21:51
latitu_Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.21:52
p_quarleslatitu_, weird; try running the script with "restart" then21:52
macorysiek|pl: was that to me?  kde4 version of kdepim's not out yet21:52
macoand certainly not in hardy's repo21:52
latitu_p_quarles how do i put it in init.d ? i think thats what is missing?21:53
rysiek|plmaco: ah, thought you were talking about KDE as a whole21:53
rysiek|plmaco: sorry about that21:53
ubuntudoes anyone here have experiance with MCE?21:53
p_quarleslatitu_, umm, it's not there?21:53
latitu_p_quarles how do i check?21:54
macolatitu_: if it could say "already running" then it's there21:54
p_quarlesls /etc/init.d21:54
p_quarles+1 what maco said21:54
p_quarlesanyway, like I said: run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart21:54
ubuntucan anyone help out with formating a HD from the live CD21:55
rysiek|plubuntu: what are you trying to do21:55
macois KMail *supposed* to tell you that some mythical external editor is running and then ask if you want to abort it when you click Send?21:56
p_quarlesubuntu, run gparted and format the drive . . .21:56
ubuntuI installed Kubuntu, then installed LinuxMCE but only installed the core, now im left with evertime I start up I get the MCE manager21:56
latitu_how to reconfigure xserver?21:56
Pliskinor QtParted if it's the kubuntu Live CD21:57
julieis there a way to configure xorg?21:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto21:57
p_quarlesmaco, kmail has the option to use an alternate editor, but it's not the default setting21:57
p_quarlesI've never seen it ask that out of the box, honestly21:57
macop_quarles: kmail's settings thing scares me so much i didnt change anything but add my gpg key for signing21:57
ubuntuWhen I hit alt cnt F1 it asked for my router  username and pass21:57
latitu_how to reconfigure xserver?21:58
ubuntuso now I figure ill just formate and start all over21:58
Pliskinlatitu_ : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:58
rysiek|pllatitu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:58
rysiek|pltoo late ;)21:58
ubuntuis gparted in the live CD or is that a command?21:58
Pliskinit's a gui :)21:59
ubuntulol as you can see im a total newb =/21:59
Pliskinbut you have to use QtParted instead if it's the kubuntu Live CD21:59
p_quarlesmaco, that's definitely weird; maybe just delete ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc?21:59
ubuntusweet found Qtparted22:00
Pliskinubuntu : gui = graphical user interface22:00
macop_quarles: and now it says it cant send emails with SMTP using the same settings with which evolution succeeds -_-22:01
latitu_$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde22:01
latitu_Package `kde' is not installed and no info is available.22:01
latitu_Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,22:01
latitu_and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.22:01
p_quarleslatitu_, kde is a meta-package; kubuntu uses a different one called kubuntu-desktop22:01
p_quarlesreconfiguring it wouldn't do anything, though22:01
Pliskinlatitu_ : you have to reconfigure xorg, not kde22:02
macop_quarles: do you know how to just encrypt the file so i can attach it to an email in gmail and use gedit with the seahorse plugin to encrypt a message that i can then copy and paste into the body?22:02
latitu_Pliskin ok22:02
p_quarlesmaco, gpg -r "recipient_identifier" --encrypt /path/to/file22:03
macop_quarles: what's recipient identifier? their key id?22:03
p_quarlesmaco, add the --armor argument if you want it in ascii instead of binary22:03
p_quarlesmaco, anything that's associated with their public key and is unique, so the key id would work22:03
macop_quarles: its a pdf. i think binary makes sense22:03
ubuntuif i formate the drive as NTFS will that work with linux?22:04
macoubuntu: yes22:04
macoPliskin: ntfs-3g22:04
p_quarlesubuntu, depends on what you mean by "work with"22:04
Pliskinyou can read and write but for the / partition, you have to use the EXT3 system22:04
p_quarlesread/write, yes, install linux on it: no22:04
macoor ext2 or reiser or xfs22:04
Pliskin+1 p_quarles22:04
macoor jfs22:04
ubuntuI have 2 drives, one i want to install ubuntu/LinuxMCE on other i want to store media on22:05
macomedia storage can be NTFS just fine22:05
ubuntuok then the other i do ntfs-3g?22:05
macoPliskin: "no valid openpgp data found"22:05
macooh oops22:06
macoand that was at p_quarles22:06
p_quarlesmaco, well, the tutorial I read indicates you have to sign the recipients key before you can encrypt it for them22:06
Pliskinubuntu : why not ext3 (or reiserfs) ?22:06
ubuntuext3 for both will work?22:07
p_quarlesubuntu, yes -- the only reason to use ntfs is if you use Windows frequently with the drive22:08
ubuntuI had vista... which is why I am here now =)22:08
siduxim taking a look at kubuntu as a somewhat new linux user, and i had a couple questions. is kubuntu as powerful a kde desktop as others22:09
Pliskinubuntu : you can use a driver on Windows tu read the ext3 partition :)22:09
p_quarlessidux, powerful? for what purpose?22:09
siduxive been doing some research on kde and gnome to find which i like better and kde for me is just as useable but more options are offered to me and i can do more where as in gnome it seems those options are hidden22:11
macop_quarles: i screwed up and forgot the --encrypt part22:11
macop_quarles: works fine :P22:11
macoPliskin: only for xp...i dont think the driver works for vista22:11
siduxand id seen some things concerning kubuntu where stuff had been simplified or stripped down and thought id ask some kubuntu users thier thoughts22:12
windolninguém está entendendo nada do que estou digitando aqui né?22:12
ubuntuin QTparted, I select the volume, do a format (Ext3) then the bar turns purple but it does not seem to do anything22:12
p_quarlessidux, KDE in Ubuntu is almost unchanged from Debian -- everything's there, very little is added from the default release22:13
p_quarles!br | windol22:13
ubotuwindol: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:13
josivan_e verdade22:13
Pliskinubuntu : apply the changes22:14
Pliskin(excuse my english)22:14
rysiek|pl!br | josivan_22:14
ubotujosivan_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:14
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ubuntuapply changes did the trick =)22:15
Earthwingsdylan_: i played around with xorg configuration, modelines and the like still work here22:15
XenThraLhi, can anyone tell me if its ok to use GPL'ed fonts in a closed source app?22:16
Pliskinif it's LGPL, yes22:17
XenThraLthe font?22:17
XenThraLand if its GPL'ed, I'd have to GPL my app?22:18
ubuntuWhy is it that after you formate the drive there is still  9gb of 200 still used?22:18
PliskinXenThraL : exactly22:19
sourcemaker_is there a tasbar like apple for kde?22:21
p_quarlessourcemaker_, like the OS X dock? yes, kooldock22:22
EarthwingsXenThraL: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException22:22
sourcemaker_p_quarles: i have tested kooldock... but it's not like the apple's one :-)22:22
sourcemaker_p_quarles: i like the 3D lock ind leopard :-)22:23
XenThraLEarthwings: yeah I had read that22:23
XenThraLit confused me more22:23
p_quarleswell, not exactly, no -- the development version (on kde-apps.org) is much better, but still not 3D really22:23
p_quarlesAWN works fine with KDE, though, if you don't mind the dependencies22:23
jparishyOkay, so my computer dualboots both kubuntu and osx, and recently i resized my harddrive and now i can't get kubuntu to boot (it doesn't show up in the menu when i hold option on startup). Now, i am currently in a kubuntu livecd. any suggestions on what to do to fix this?22:24
ManuPjparishy, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.list and the output of sudo fdisk -l22:25
EarthwingsXenThraL: depends on how you use the fonts in your software22:25
XenThraLopengl app22:25
ManuPjparishy, the bootloader is grup, or is it from osx??22:25
XenThraLwill make textures out of the font, then use the textures22:26
jparishyi usually use the osx loader, and then when i select linux, it starts up grub and boots linux22:26
INIT_6Installed the new 8.04 kubuntu. I have a nvidia 7600gs video card. I installed the drivers using the "Hardware Drivers Manager" under system. Told it to use the driver. Still couldn't change the rez past 640x.  So I tried the nvidia-settings tool. Still no luck. I turned it off in hardware drivers manager. Installed the driver by hand using the driver from nvidia's website. still no luck. any suggestions?22:26
EarthwingsXenThraL: if you ship the gpl font as part of the program and the font does not have such an exception (see link), i'd say you cannot do that22:26
EarthwingsXenThraL: otherwise i don't know :)22:26
jparishyThis isn't the same computer, so give me a second to paste the above thins.22:26
XenThraLreally shady part of the GPL22:27
ManuPjparishy, and the osx-loader doesnt show grub or does grub show up but without the entry for kubuntu?22:27
XenThraLno one can tell me anything for sure22:27
jparishyIt doesn't show grub22:27
EarthwingsXenThraL: i'm afraid you have to pay a lawyer for that22:27
XenThraLI can't afford a font :p22:27
jparishyHm, something is wrong with the output of sudo fdisk -l22:27
coggz can i get a copy of xp tablet pc edition? an iso? i have a licence key22:28
ManuPjparishy, so it has to do sth. with the osx-bootloader. sorry. i can not help you with this.22:28
EarthwingsXenThraL: i'm sure there are some in the public domain or similar?22:28
XenThraLits hard to tell for sure when they are22:28
ManuPjparishy, what's wrong with the output?22:28
jparishyI'm thinking a fresh install of grub may help things, but I don't know how to do it. How would I reinstall it?22:29
ManuPjparishy, i can tell you that22:29
Earthwingsjparishy: what does fdisk -l say?22:29
Earthwingsjparishy: can you mount the partition from the livecd?22:29
jparishyIt says "GPT detected on '/dev/sda'! ... doesn't support it, use gnu parted"22:29
jparishyYes, i can mount it22:29
Earthwingsjparishy: if not, grub won't be able to do anything22:29
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jparishyand fdisk only shows /dev/sda122:29
jparishybut all of them are there in /dev/22:30
ManuPEarthwings, right. i dont know what this is too22:30
jparishy(GUID Partition Table)22:30
jparishy^^ from fdisk22:30
ManuPjparishy, did you pastebin the whole output of fdisk -l ?22:31
jparishyeh, give me too seconds. I'll be right back.22:31
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INIT_6when you are using a glx or glx-new nvidia driver in the xorg.conf file to the right of driver should it be NV or NVIDIA?22:34
jparishy`That's the output for sudo fdisk -l22:34
shaffycan someone correct this fstab line for me?  i'm trying to mount my external usb hd (ext3).  "UUID=872ffa39-31e0-4c07-953d-b42bce34022c /0moon ext3 defaults,utf8,dmask=000,fmask=111,uid=0,auto,rw 0 1"22:34
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shaffyi think the utf8 should not be there?22:35
ManuPjparishy, it is somehow weird that a dual-boot pc has only one partition...22:35
jparishy/dev/sda1 - /dev/sda422:36
jparishyThey are there22:36
jparishyAnd I can mount it.22:36
jparishySorry, wrong window.22:38
ManuPjparishy, you german?22:38
ManuPjparishy, i dont know what to do that fdisk shows the partition table correctly.22:38
ManuPjparishy, i think that during resizing sth. went wrong.22:39
jparishyubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -s /dev/sda322:39
jparishyThat's right.22:39
ManuPjparishy, if you want, i can tell you how to reinstall grub from live-cd. but i dont know if this is a good idea since the partition table seems to be broken22:39
jparishyqtparted shows the partition table just fine22:41
ManuPjparishy, well, then you might try reinstalling grub22:42
jparishySo how do you do it?22:42
ManuPjparishy, mount the hd with the boot-directory on. like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt22:43
rakanHello, is there a form designer for wxWidgets on KDevelop:22:44
ManuPjparishy, mount the devices: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev22:45
ManuPjparishy, then: sudo -o bind -t proc /proc /mnt/proc (2 more steps...)22:45
jparishyis that, "sudo mount ..."22:46
ManuPjparishy, yeah. sorry that i missed that22:46
ManuPjparishy, chroot to mnt: sudo chroot /mnt    in the chroot, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda22:47
nosrednaekimrakan: I doubt it... there is a Python IDE for that though22:47
ManuPjparishy, that should it be22:47
jparishyubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt22:47
jparishychroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory22:47
jparishywas i supposed to bind /bin too?22:48
ManuPjparishy, no22:48
jparishyWas that error supposed to happen then?22:48
ManuPjparishy, no22:48
jparishyWhat then?22:49
jparishySo just run grub-install?22:49
nosrednaekimwhat are you doing?22:49
jparishyreinstalling grub from inside a livecd22:49
ManuPjparishy, it is important to run it with the device on which you want to install.22:49
nosrednaekimgrub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt works better In my experience22:50
jparishyAnd that is hda, not sda3?22:50
nosrednaekimwell, then it would be sda22:50
nosrednaekimadapt it for your particulat setup..22:50
juliehelp help22:51
jparishyAh, okay. Gotcha22:51
julieI can't get rid of a language on my kde system..22:51
juliethe kmenu is in persian22:51
sisazdravím je tu někdo kdo mluví časky?22:51
juliei HAVE REMOVED the language22:51
ManuPjparishy, did it work without the chroot and specifying --root-directory?22:51
jparishyubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt22:52
jparishyProbing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.22:52
jparishyCould not find device for /mnt/boot: Not found or not a block device.22:52
juliehow do i get the language to change back to the original enlish please22:52
nosrednaekimoh.... you don't even have the grub files THERE...22:52
ManuPjparishy, try /dev/sda# where # is the number on which the /boot dir is22:53
jparishyOkay :P22:53
Arrow_Hi all22:53
jparishySame error, ManuP22:53
nosrednaekimno..... DON"t do that!22:53
jparishybut if was to mount /dev/sda3, /boot/grub/ is there...22:53
nosrednaekimthat turns that partition into a boot partition.22:53
jparishyIt should be shouldn't it?22:54
juliecan anyone help22:54
jparishyWell, it didsn't work anyway. Same error passing /dev/sda322:54
nosrednaekimjparishy: do mount it.... mount it to /mnt22:55
jparishyi have it mounted to /mnt/kubuntu atm22:55
ManuPjparishy, i got the error with block-device when i didnt chroot. but you can not chroot...22:55
ManuPjparishy, and you substituted /mnt all the time with /mnt/kubuntu ?22:55
Arrow_Hey I can't seem to get Kubuntu-KDE4 Desktop ot alt 64 bit to boot on my new Phenom machine..keeps saying kernel is corrupt22:55
jparishyAnd I have /dev binded to /mnt/dev and /proc binded to /mnt/proc22:55
julie helelel22:56
nosrednaekimArrow_: gutsy or hardy?22:56
jparishyokay, let me do this one more time22:56
nosrednaekimjparishy: lol22:56
ManuPjparishy, you have to mount /dev to /mnt/kubuntu then22:56
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ManuPand /proc to /mnt/kubuntu/proc ^^22:56
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ManuPjparishy, if you change things, change them right.22:56
Arrow_sorry forgot that piece22:56
nosrednaekimjparishy: try "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt/kubuntu22:57
tiberius1701hey i kinda new to linux, but have used irc in windows (mirc), is it normal to show my ip here in konversation, aint that kinda bad?22:57
Arrow_I can boot hardy 3222:57
nosrednaekimArrow_: is that the RC or a daily live?22:57
sisapotřeboval bych poradit ale česky pokuď možne.22:57
Arrow_RC...the one with the KDE422:57
nosrednaekimtiberius1701: you can mask it somehow... not sure how if you aren't affiliated with a org22:58
nosrednaekimArrow_: ok, then  go to #ubuntu+122:58
jparishyOkay, grub installation finished.22:58
jparishyNow reboot?22:58
tiberius1701ok ill google it she what i get22:58
ManuPjparishy, yeah22:59
jparishyokay, reboot it is.22:59
nosrednaekimtiberius1701: but i'm sure windopws did that to you too22:59
nosrednaekimtiberius1701: I think there is an unaffiliated mask....22:59
ManuPjparishy, you will have to get partition table right i think...22:59
jparishyIs it safe to unmount everyting i mounted before reboot?22:59
ManuPjparishy, you can do that, but dont need.23:00
ManuPjparishy, just sudo reboot23:00
tiberius1701i really cant remember in windows if it did it or not, i just happened to notice it now23:00
KetrelI'm at a loss. I've changed everywhere I can think of, but my moniter still blanks after X ammount time. Could there be anywhere I'm missing?23:00
jparishyi'm out, i'll probably be back :P23:00
nosrednaekimKetrel: guidance-power-manager?23:01
juliecan anyone help please23:02
Ketrelnosrednaekim: Only set to do something when batter is low23:02
Ketrelnot set to do anything on idle23:02
nosrednaekimKetrel: better check in there what the settings are for blanking the screen23:03
julieI have changed the language to persian then tried to change it back but its stuck on persian .. I have restarted kdm and x but no use.. any ideas?23:03
nosrednaekimKetrel: ah.. never mind.23:03
nosrednaekimjulie: log in, go to system settings andchange it back23:04
julienosrednaekim: yes that is goooood but it dosen't wok23:06
juliedamn it damn it23:07
xanax`does anyone know where I could find a Kubuntu 8.04 vmware image ?23:07
juliethis is why I moved23:07
jparisshyNope :|23:07
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p_quarlesxanax`, doesn't vmware's site have one?23:08
nosrednaekimjparishy: what happened?23:08
sisahello. Please needed any program in connection at phone mauger infra23:08
xanax`it has 7.1023:09
nosrednaekimjulie: make a new user and log in as him :)23:09
jparishyjust went and booted up osx23:09
nosrednaekimjparishy: you are on a mac?23:09
sisajust went and booted up osx23:10
nosrednaekimjparishy: hum, I think grub does not work with them...23:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:10
julienosrednaekim: thats not a fix23:11
nosrednaekimjulie: uhh, yeah it is23:12
nosrednaekimjulie: do you use kmail or konqueror?23:12
julienosrednaekim: you don't even know what m,y problem is23:13
nosrednaekimjulie: yes I do, just answer the question23:14
jparishySorry, I just don't have the time to keep doing this.23:14
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nosrednaekimjparishy: google up a install guide for macs....23:14
juliethe default language is set to uk english but i can still see persian23:14
jparishyBy the way, nosrednaekim: This worked before, i recently resized on of the partitions, and since then it doesn't work.23:14
nosrednaekimoh... ok23:15
nosrednaekimI think it sounds like a Mac problem personally23:16
julienosrednaekim: kmail and konqueror are two different programs23:17
nosrednaekimjulie: I know, but they both store configs in .kde23:17
ManuPjparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader23:19
poseidonI have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f23:19
julienosrednaekim: what are you getting at23:19
ManuPjparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...23:19
nosrednaekimjulie: erasing your configuration files23:21
juliethis is clearly a bug..23:21
julieit should be fixed23:21
nosrednaekimjulie: so? do you use them?23:23
julieI do23:23
jparishySorry, for some reason my macbook isn't charging so when i unplugged it, it turned off23:23
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shaffycan someone help me with my fstab of an external harddrive?  "LABEL=Biggie /0moon ext3 auto,users,rw 0 1";  for some reason tho, i can't write23:24
nosrednaekimjulie: err, forget erasing all the configs then.... just a minute and I'll try finding the correct file23:24
ManuPjparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader23:25
ManuPjparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...23:25
zero88Can someonoe tell me how to power a device with a usb port. I have my mp3 connected that way and it doesnt seem like its powering it.23:25
ManuPthat was what i wrote last23:25
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jparishyno worries23:25
ManuPzero88, the 5V of usb should always be on the cable.23:26
zero88ManuP, Hmm. Doesnt seem like it is. Is there a way to verify?23:27
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Odd-rationaleWasn't sometime back, kubuntu was having a contest on a new website design? What is the latest on that?23:34
nosrednaekimOdd-rationale: should come up with hardy23:35
nosrednaekimI think23:35
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Odd-rationalenosrednaekim: I hope so... They should use oxygen style icons :)23:36
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shaffyis anyone able to help me with my fstab mount permissions for my external ext3 formatted HD?  i can't seem to write.  "LABEL=ExtHD /extHD ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 123:43
poseidonI have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f23:46
poseidonI'm using kubuntu 8.0423:46
julie the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian, kde menu is stuck on persian23:48
Odd-rationalejulie: you will have to log out for all changes to take effect23:49
julieOdd-rationale: I have done that23:50
Odd-rationaleshaffy: I had a similar problem23:51
Odd-rationaleshaffy: I solved it by reformating with mkfs.ext3: mkfs.ext3 -L <youdisklabelhere> /dev/<device>23:52
julieplease I can't fix this problem23:52
Odd-rationaleshaffy: be sure it is unmounted before trying that commnad though23:52
oldmanemuposeidon: according to your pastebin, your wifi is working.23:53
poseidonoldmanemu, thats what I was told earlier, however I don't have any sort of internet connection23:54
ghittsumI just installed kubuntu, does anyone know how you login as root, and what its default password is?23:55
Odd-rationale!sudo | ghittsum23:55
ubotughittsum: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.23:55
hakeris it possible in anyway to use visualbasic?23:55
oldmanemuposeidon: right click the icon in your system tray and click the wireless network you want connect to !23:55
Odd-rationale!root | ghittsum23:55
ubotughittsum: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:55
poseidonoldmanemu, I tried, and it failed.  It says that it has a signal strenght of -123:55
oldmanemuposeidon: how far away is your router?23:56
hari_seldon99Hi. I just upgraded my kubuntu kernel and now the KDE popup for USB devices doesn't how when I plug my thumbdrive in (although /var/log/messsages shows detection)23:57
poseidonoldmanemu, close enough.  I averaged about 800-900 kb/s downloading kubuntu with the router23:57
hari_seldon99*doesn't show23:57
oldmanemuposeidon: I know this maybe a silly q. but is the antenna connected to the wifi card?23:59

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