[00:05] <dope> is there a program that will text msg my phone upon new email and only send the subject of the email?
[00:10] <markitus> hello everyone
[00:10] <markitus> i need some help with wireless bridge
[00:10] <markitus> anyone there?
[00:13] <dope> nobody is here
[00:13] <markitus> i see
[00:14] <markitus> and you dope?
[00:14] <dope> i'm not here either
[00:14] <markitus> and where are you?
[00:14] <dope> in the internet
[00:14] <markitus> anyway... can you help me with my problem?
[00:15] <markitus> i don't care if you're here, there or in the internet... :-P
[00:18] <PhilRod> !ask
[00:18] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:18] <DNC_005> damn i just found a good howto for viren
[00:19] <DNC_005> !share
[00:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:20] <DNC_005> !samba
[00:20] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:23] <markitus> !bridge
[00:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:24] <markitus> !nat
[00:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:24] <markitus> !apache
[00:24] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[00:24] <markitus> !virtualization
[00:24] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[00:25] <markitus> !cedega
[00:25] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[00:41] <maG> moin
[00:43] <ubuntu> boa noite a todos...
[00:43] <ubuntu> alguem pode me ajudar com o kopete?
[00:44] <maG> are there channels for every country (need a german one), or only international?
[00:44] <mwilliams> I have an error with Adept. I get this message
[00:44] <mwilliams> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[00:44] <mwilliams> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[00:45] <linuxguymarshall> I know the command to fix it is something like "sudo dkpg configure --a" but im not sure
[00:46] <maG> but there is not other apt-get window, installre or something like that? ^^
[00:47] <maG> but "dpkg --configure -a" shoud be right
[00:47] <linuxguymarshall> ok
[00:47] <linuxguymarshall> i ran "sudo ksysguard" and killed all adept managers and no help
[00:48] <maG> maybe "sudo dpkg --configure dpkg" could help
[00:50] <linuxguymarshall> sudo dpkg --configure -a  worked
[00:52] <fracny> post a link on how to install ati drivers on kubuntu please
[00:52] <[maG]> I only knew german ones :D
[00:52] <rootlinuxusr> #compiz-fusion ?
[00:52] <rootlinuxusr> xD
[00:52] <fracny> thanks
[00:52] <rootlinuxusr> umm, just look up what specific model number it is
[00:53] <rootlinuxusr> then there hopefully should be a *nix driver for it.
[00:53] <fracny> r300
[00:53] <fracny> on kubuntu 8.04rc
[00:54] <rootlinuxusr> kay, look that up on the ati website, then you'll do something like ./lawlatipackagename buildpkg somethingsomething
[00:54] <rootlinuxusr> they'd be able to fill in the blanks
[00:54] <rootlinuxusr> it's worth it, they got my x1270 to work =]
[00:55] <fracny> so i look it up at ati dot com
[00:55] <fracny> ok
[00:56] <rootlinuxusr> yes
[00:56] <Fusaaki> hey guys, trying to install Kunbuntu (newest 64bit version) and having some problems... could anyone help?
[00:56] <rootlinuxusr> 8.04rc or 7.10?
[00:56] <rootlinuxusr> define latest.
[00:56] <Fusaaki> 7.10
[00:57] <rootlinuxusr> what is your problem?
[00:57] <Fusaaki> it gets stuck at 50% on the scanning disk step
[00:57] <rootlinuxusr> 7.10 installed fine on my amd64..
[00:57] <rootlinuxusr> weird.
[00:57] <Fusaaki> I have one hdd on sata and one on ide
[00:57] <Fusaaki> both work in windows
[00:57] <fracny> burn the disk ati 8x or slower
[00:58] <fracny> burnthe setup disk at 8x or slower
[00:58] <Fusaaki> alright
[00:58] <Fusaaki> im also getting the error when I set it to nosplash so I can see
[00:58] <Fusaaki> the error is End _request : I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[00:59] <fracny> fd0 is your cd room
[01:00] <fracny> try reburning the disk at a slower speed
[01:00] <rootlinuxusr> Sounds like it's something wrong on the disc, it can't read a certain part, or mebbe the CD drive isn't fully plugged in?
[01:00] <rootlinuxusr> though i doubt the latter.
[01:00] <rootlinuxusr> or request one?
[01:00] <rootlinuxusr> or you could do the option to check disc for errors at bootup
[01:01] <Fusaaki> ill try that
[01:10] <DarkestHour> there i go.
[01:11] <fracny> hey rootlinuxusr where can i get help for hardy/fglrx
[01:12] <rootlinuxusr> compiz-fusion
[01:12] <fracny> ok
[01:12] <fracny> thanks
[01:12] <rootlinuxusr> trying to get that installed so you can have the rotating cube?
[01:13] <xenthral_> I'll only use that when they have rotating hypnotoad
[01:14] <DarkestHour> xenthral_: that would be bad ass.
[01:14] <DarkestHour> All Hail Hypnotoad!
[01:14] <xenthral_> its about time we get it
[01:14] <xenthral_> spam the developers!
[01:15] <DarkestHour> lol, not to go way off topic here but, you see the hypnotoad episode on the Benders Big Score DVD?
[01:16] <xenthral_> no!
[01:16] <xenthral_> I know of it, but never seen it
[01:17] <DarkestHour> lol, me and a bunch of my friends sat through the entire episode. It was awesome, lol. 23-ish minutes long.
[01:18] <xenthral_> is it just hypnotoad, being hypnotoad?
[01:18] <DarkestHour> pretty much, they through in fake commercials and wierd moments and such.
[01:19] <xenthral_> gotta watch that some time
[01:20] <xenthral_> sounds like something to watch while wasted
[01:21] <DarkestHour> definately.
[01:21] <GrueTamer> DarkestHour: nice name
[01:22] <DarkestHour> GrueTamer: Thanks, been using it for a long time.
[01:22] <GrueTamer> i sense 80s vibes :>
[01:22] <anabelle> hi
[01:22] <anabelle> i just installed kubuntu 8.04 RC1
[01:22] <DarkestHour> actually started using back when i played Tribes 2.
[01:22] <anabelle> IM LOVING IT!
[01:23] <anabelle> but i have one question?
[01:23] <xenthral_> thats fortunate
[01:23] <xenthral_> you're only allowed one
[01:23] <DarkestHour> lol, whats your Question anabelle?
[01:23] <anabelle> will i get continuous updates from now on? or will i have to reinstall once the final release is out?
[01:24] <DarkestHour> you will get the updates from now on
[01:24] <anabelle> so im oficially in hardy now :)
[01:24] <anabelle> thank you!
[01:24] <DarkestHour> At most there will be only minor changes between the RC now and the final release.
[01:24] <DarkestHour> and you'll get those through adept_manager
[01:25] <DarkestHour> No problem.
[01:25] <xenthral_> man I hope the 7.10 -> 8.04 transition is less rocky then the 7.04 -> 7.10 one
[01:25] <xenthral_> cause I don't feel like reinstalling the whole system again
[01:26] <DarkestHour> lol, i messed with my 7.10 install so much that i had some wierd problems. i just said screw it and did a complete reinstall with the 8.04 rc
[01:26] <xenthral_> everything is Just Working right now
[01:26] <xenthral_> don't want to have to reconfigure stuff
[01:27] <DarkestHour> hopefully you should be fine. especially since there is no major kde version change for you to have to deal with.
[01:27] <DarkestHour> i switched to kde4 during 7.10 so i decided to just start off with the kubuntu remix this time.
[01:31] <DarkestHour> hmm, anyone know the command for the restricted driver manager?
[01:33] <rootlinuxusr> Got a question is there anyway to set it so my wifitester brings up all available wireless networks in the area? i don't it's part of the keyset...
[01:33] <xboxkiller88> airsnort
[01:35] <rootlinuxusr> airsnort?
[01:44] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone i'm having some trouble with GRUB. i'm able to boot using the 2.6.24-12-server kernel but when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-16-server kernel I get an error 24 (Attempt to access block outside partition) and when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-15-server kernel I get an error 16 (Inconsistent file structure). e2fs says disk is clean. Any ideas what's wrong?
[01:52] <carlomagno> Hi
[01:54] <dorkface> Hi all.  I'm having a problem with kubuntu crashing where if the laptop lid is closed for a while, and when it opens to a screen saver password prompt, it freezes hard.  I've tried looking in /var/log/messages, but I couldn't find anything referencing anything happening before the crash.  Are there any other logs that I could check?
[01:54] <carlomagno> After upgrading to 7.10 I can't load gdm anymore (it won't recognise SVG files). I tried reinstalling the relevant libraries but to no avail, so I figured I'd try out kdm. Can anybody tell me how to set kdm as my default window manager from the command line? (I'm in recovery mode.) Is tehre some setting in /etc/X11/?
[01:56] <xoqa> supposedly there's a restore feature for konqueror's tabs after it crashes.. for kde 3, it's in kdeaddons and for kde 4, it's in extra gear... but i'm not seeing them... anyone know what to search for
[01:57] <xoqa> carlomagno: i think you can set it as the default in your xorg.conf file
[01:57] <carlomagno> xoqa, thanks. Somebody on #ubuntu suggested sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm.
[01:57] <xoqa> hmm.. not seeing it there
[01:58] <xoqa> carlomagno: ah, nice
[01:58] <carlomagno> I'll try that. Cheers.
[01:59] <martin_> hallo dorkface, I noticed that the stand by modus doesnt works. so after going into the stand by modus, the computer doesn't wake up any more. Probably you have set you powermanager so, that he pushes the laptop into stand by (suspend) when you close the laptop lid... Try to change this
[02:02] <crunchybumble> I'm new to KDE. Where in the GUI can I see whether the automatic install picked up my wireless card?
[02:03] <dorkface> martin_: I don't believe it is in sleep mode, it should just turn to a screen saver
[02:03] <dorkface> but, does it go to sleep after a while?
[02:03] <xoqa> crunchybumble: you should be able to right click on the kde network manager icon
[02:04] <xoqa> it should tell you what connections you have
[02:04] <xoqa> you could just use dmesg though
[02:04] <dorkface> martin_: yeah, I checked power manager, and I have "Do Nothing" on "when Laptop Lid Is Closed"
[02:05] <martin_> dorkface: so its strange
[02:05] <canen_> hello
[02:05] <dorkface> martin_: but I do have "Lock screen on resume" checked
[02:05] <canen_> is there a specific channel for people wanting to try the rc?
[02:05] <crunchybumble> hmm... it appears to have only picked up my ethernet ports
[02:05] <dorkface> canen_: kubuntu+!
[02:05] <dorkface> canen_: kubuntu+1
[02:06] <canen_> dorkface: thanks
[02:06] <martin_> welcome
[02:07] <canen_> empty
[02:07] <DarkestHour> yeah, i expect this channel would be the place canen_
[02:07] <DarkestHour> i use the RC myself right now.
[02:07] <canen_> ok
[02:07] <dorkface> canen_: ubuntu+1
[02:07] <dorkface> has people in it
[02:07] <dorkface> I checked
[02:08] <crunchybumble> so, from googling around, it appears that I need to use the ndiswrapper to get my wireless card (Netgear WG311 v2) working
[02:08] <canen_> yeah, a lot
[02:08] <crunchybumble> I've had no experience using this
[02:08] <crunchybumble> can I just apt-get it, and it'll magically work?
[02:11] <crunchybumble> iwconfig lists lo eth0 and eth1 as no wireless connections, the kubuntu network manager doesn't list lo
[02:12] <bragoo08> crunchybumble: you need to have "universe" enabled in adept manager to "apt-get" ndiswrapper!
[02:19] <bragoo08> cruncybumble: try http://www.mattweber.org/2005/22/using_dwl-g510_in_linux/ i now it's not the same wifi card, but it explains how to use ndiswrapper.
[02:19] <crunchybumble> thanks, I'll do that
[02:19] <bragoo08> no prob
[02:19] <adude> i downloaded the xubuntu desktop how do i run it?
[02:20] <gogo_> hi
[02:21] <Odd-rationale> adude: log out and in the kdm sessions menu chose xfce
[02:21] <DarkestHour> Hi there
[02:21] <adude> thanks
[02:23] <bragoo08> crunchybumble: sorry, that url is old. goto http://www.mattweber.org/category/linux/ and scroll down.
[02:24] <crunchybumble> s'aite, I found it
[02:24] <bragoo08> crunchybumble: cool
[02:39] <dennister> hey channel; anyone have any idea why a pc would simply refuse to boot from either of 2 installed cdroms?  always get a failure, no matter what livecd or alternatecd I insert into either drive
[02:40] <stdin> corrupted RAM maybe
[02:40] <DarkestHour> are you getting an error of any sort? or it just wont boot from the cd?
[02:41] <crunchybumble> silly question, but you did make sure to burn them as images, not as data files, right?
[02:41] <dennister> the only error i get is "Failure"...this is at the bios level....nothing on the hdd yet
[02:41] <DarkestHour> Do you have your bios set to boot from CD drives?
[02:42] <dennister> DarkestHour: yes, set to boot from cd drives,
[02:42] <dennister> crunchybumble: these same cd's have installed OS onto previous machines
[02:43] <DarkestHour> it is possible those drives might have problems readings the disc's. I've had to use a seperate dvd-rom with my desktop pc for some reason. but after the install it worked fine.
[02:43] <bragoo08> dennister: how many cd drives do you have?
[02:43] <crunchybumble> maybe burning media as well
[02:43] <crunchybumble> are they older drives?
[02:43] <dennister> stdin: ram gets counted properly, can't do memtest unless it will boot from livecd
[02:44] <dennister> DarkestHour: i've already changed one drive for another that I know works well
[02:44] <bragoo08> dennister: it maybe only reading the master drive
[02:44] <stdin> dennister: can't you remove the ram and put in some from another box, just to see if it is the ram?
[02:44] <xoqa> oi.. so... not seeing the 'svn' command in konsole...
[02:44] <dennister> bragoo08: i have 2, one is plain cdrom; other is dvdrom
[02:45] <xoqa> just wondering what package it's in
[02:45] <stdin> xoqa: svn"
[02:45] <stdin> or subversion
[02:45] <stdin> adept/apt-cache would know
[02:45] <dennister> stdin: yes, I can do that, as I do have toehr boxes here in earlier state of refurbishing,...i had just *never* seen this before...total refusal to boot from either of two optical drives
[02:46] <stdin> also if you types "svn" and have command-not-found installed it would say
[02:46] <bragoo08> dennister: do you get "failure" twice or just once?
[02:46] <DarkestHour> dennister: you may want to try and do a bios update on the mother for that machine.
[02:46] <stdin> dennister: does it even boot from hdd?
[02:46] <DarkestHour> dennister: err, motherboard
[02:46] <xoqa> stdin: ah, i just ran a wrong command :| sorries
[02:46] <dennister> bragoo08: i only get it once...make sure i put cd into master drive, and made sure I knew which one that was :)
[02:47] <dennister> DarkestHour: yes, i was thinking of flashing bios :(
[02:47] <bragoo08> dennister: i'm guessing this is a p2 or p3 machine!
[02:48] <dennister> stdin: can't boot from hdd...hdd is still blank...
[02:48] <dennister> yes, this is a soyo mobo with P3 cpu
[02:48] <stdin> dennister: test with another hdd ;)
[02:48] <DarkestHour> dennister: have you tried unplugging the hdd and seeing if it would then boot from the cd?
[02:49] <dennister> ok, haven't tried unplugging the hdd yet...was hoping to avoid flashing bios, so that's worth a shot
[02:49] <xoqa> someone mind telling me what i'm doing wrong? http://dpaste.com/45881/ i was geting the 301 moved error with kdesvn as well
[02:49] <bragoo08> dennister: if your dvd is master then try swapping master to the cd drive!
[02:49] <DarkestHour> yeah, atleast try to elimate some points of potential failure.
[02:50] <dennister> and yes, I have another smaller hdd for testing...sometimes when you get a wierd error it's good to simply ask if someone else has seen this before
[02:50] <xoqa> svn list gives an 301 moved error as well
[02:50] <dennister> this is a new one on me, lol
[02:51] <dennister> bragoo08: both optical are on secondary ide, with cd as master, dvd as slave; on primary ide the 80g hdd is master, zip drive is slave
[02:51] <DarkestHour> what did you set the boot order to in bios?
[02:52] <stdin> I find it sometimes helps to just take it apart and put it back together again
[02:52] <bragoo08> dennister: unplug one drive at a time and try each one solo!
[02:52] <dennister> DarkestHour: cdrom, A, C
[02:52] <DarkestHour> ok
[02:52] <DarkestHour> yeah, start unplugging things, lol
[02:52] <foibles> is cafelinux down for some reason?
[02:52] <foibles> does anyone know?
[02:52] <stdin> error: A is not know, C is not known  ;)
[02:53] <devin_> how do i make compiz default in kubuntu"?
[02:53] <stdin> !compiz | devin_
[02:53] <dennister> kinda strange, too, though...other boot sequence options include D...A...SCSI, E...A, SCSI...F...A...SCSI
[02:53] <ubotu> devin_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:54] <dennister> don't have any scsi, so...
[02:54] <dennister> stdin: ??? i don't understand..."not known"?
[02:55] <stdin> dennister: "Drive Letters" are a windows term
[02:55] <DarkestHour> lol
[02:55] <dennister> yes, i know, but bios manufacturers still assume ur working with winblows
[02:56] <bragoo08> correction! drive letters are a DOS term
[02:56] <dennister> bragoo08: ur right...touche
[02:56] <stdin> well, dos is dead, so it's windows now
[02:56] <bragoo08> not here it isn't!
[02:56] <stdin> although you can get freedos, retro :)
[02:58] <dennister> spent the last two days stuggling with a tecra8000...no livecd's would load, no linux would install...figured it was the cdrom drive, dirty or something...but it looks like winblows2k has just finished without a hitch :(
[02:59] <bragoo08> dennister: you have got be kidding!!!!!
[02:59] <dennister> nope...which i were
[02:59] <dennister> so it's not the drive...
[02:59] <bragoo08> dennister: it's always the simplest things!
[03:00] <dennister> well, i have nooooooooo idea why w2k will install, but knoppix, dsl, kubuntu alternate...nothing in linux will load/completely-install, live or otherwise
[03:02] <nnck> hi
[03:02] <nnck> hi .. trying to install kubuntu on ps3 but the resolution does not fit on hdtv when I reached location step I couldnt continue clicked alt ctrl f1 and now am at the command line what should I do?
[03:02] <dennister> heck...the parts of kubuntu alternate that did load (framebuffer installation) always said the video memory was too low, but it has 256MB of ram
[03:03] <DarkestHour> dennister: i have a tecra8000 with the same problem.
[03:03] <DarkestHour> lol
[03:03] <bragoo08> dennister: some bios setups have a setting for either "dos system" or "unix".
[03:03] <carlos_> que hablan
[03:03] <carlos_> no entiendo
[03:03] <dennister> DarkestHour: heheheh...have you managed anything with the tecra? some people have done it, u know
[03:03] <carlos_> ...................
[03:04] <stdin> !es | carlos_
[03:04] <ubotu> carlos_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:04] <BluesKaj> dennister, , hardware recognition problem maybe. I encountered a similar prob with some linuxes on this pc (compaq presario 1734x), pretty ordinary pc
[03:05] <carlos_> blablabla
[03:05] <dennister> bragoo08: maybe I'll look for that feature from now on...although the stuff i get donated is usually pretty standard
[03:06] <stdin> carlos_: go to #ubuntu-es, speak english or leave. those are your options
[03:06] <BluesKaj> carlos_, blahblahblah en espanol por favor
[03:06] <dennister> the donor of the tecra actually had wxp and ms office on it...but sloooooowwwwwww as molasses
[03:06] <BluesKaj> ext3 partitions dennister ?
[03:07] <DarkestHour> i use the tecra8000 i have for cisco programming, lol.
[03:07] <dennister> BluesKaj: that's what i was trying on the tecra laptop...lol...i've just heard the winblows music...did install from iso cd without a hitch
[03:08] <BluesKaj> well, an OS at least :)
[03:09] <dennister> my, my, my...can't believe how fast/zippy w2k is on this tecra :)
[03:10] <DarkestHour> give it a month, then the windows hardware tax kicks in.
[03:14] <dennister> yes, have to have some kinw of OS...at least it doesn't have spyware like XP...what i was hoping to use this ancient laptop for was a dmonstration laptop, possibly showing how fast linux was on it...possibly a dual boot to compare speed between winblows and linux...can't even get linux installed, let aloone demonstrate speed
[03:14] <steini> Hello. I was wondering if someone was familiar with this bug http://s2.screenshots.cc/upload/a717fe91.jpg         I am using kubuntu 8.04 rc3 with compiz fusion and nvidia 8800 gt graphics card (drivers 169.12 i think :P)  95% of the top of a non selected window gets almost see-through or corrupt like this :(
[03:14] <steini> anyone know what it can be?
[03:15] <dennister> DarkestHour: have you checked the forums for your tecra? there were some who had managed to get ubuntu installed on the tecra
[03:15] <DarkestHour> dennister: i havent, it hasnt been a real priority for me.
[03:16] <dennister> windows tax...you mean how much work it is to maintain it? this is an old copy I had from over 3 years ago...had retired that machine
[03:17] <dennister> if that's what you mean, yes, I do hate all the work of maintaining it
[03:17] <Jimmy1> Hello
[03:17] <Jimmy1> me AGAIN ;)
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:18] <Jimmy1> any1 free to help with ark
[03:18] <DarkestHour> what seems to be the problem Jimmy1?
[03:18] <Jimmy1> i dloaded a *.rar file and it wont let me extract the file
[03:18] <Jimmy1> says extraction operation failed
[03:18] <dennister> but here, i gotta reboot the tecra...will look around some more in bios to see if there's something funny going on, like not allowing anyone to install something on the mbr...bbs
[03:19] <DarkestHour> do you have unrar installed?
[03:19] <dennister> besides, winblows is not taking up the whole screen real estate
[03:19] <Jimmy1> umm i dloaded a rar program
[03:19] <Jimmy1> ill check which one it is
[03:19] <iss_student> join #kbuntu-kde4
[03:20] <steini> iḿ sorry to ask again but has anyone have any information about this bug (compiz fusion)? http://s2.screenshots.cc/upload/a717fe91.jpg
[03:20] <Jimmy1> the program is called "rar"
[03:20] <Stroganoff> Jimmy1: sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:20] <steini> just get unrar (non free worked better for me)
[03:21] <Jimmy1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:21] <Jimmy1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:21] <Jimmy1> jim@Linux:~$
[03:21] <Stroganoff> sry my fault
[03:22] <Jimmy1> oh woops
[03:22] <Stroganoff> cant use synaptic/adept and apt-get at the same time
[03:22] <Jimmy1> i had apt thing open its working
[03:22] <Jimmy1> so should i remove that other rar program ?
[03:22] <Stroganoff> depends on if you want to create/modify rar archives
[03:23] <steini> unrar worked really well.. can use it in dolphin (on the right side it will say unrar or something like that)
[03:23] <steini> but the free one did not work for me .. dont know why
[03:23] <Jimmy1> ok ill have another go now
[03:25] <Jimmy1> it seems to open in ARK
[03:25] <Jimmy1> i cant find where unrar was installed
[03:25] <DarkestHour> ark should automatically use unrar
[03:25] <Jimmy1> ok
[03:25] <Jimmy1> i get the same problem
[03:26] <steini> have no idea.. it is a console program so just click the rar file and it should say unrar in dolphin
[03:27] <steini> :P
[03:27] <Jimmy1> wont even work in dolphin
[03:27] <Jimmy1> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:29] <DarkestHour> make sure you can run unrar in a console
[03:29] <Jimmy1> how do i do that
[03:30] <DarkestHour> easiest way is, press ALT+F2
[03:30] <DarkestHour> then type in konsole
[03:30] <DarkestHour> and press enter, after that you can a console open, try entering the command unrar and press enter
[03:30] <steini> did you get the non free version or the free one?
[03:31] <Jimmy1> yeh it works there
[03:31] <Jimmy1> i have no idea
[03:31] <Stargazer> Im on Ubuntu 7.10 and im trying to get Flash working in Konqueror
[03:31] <BluesKaj> !Flash
[03:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:32] <Jimmy1> konqueror suks use firefoz
[03:32] <Jimmy1> fox
[03:32] <Jimmy1> works better
[03:32] <Stargazer> I have it installed, but konqueror just doesn't seem to work right, youtube videos don't load
[03:32] <Jimmy1> yeh i had the same problem
[03:32] <dennister> egads...this tecra is so fast i don't even have time to get into the bios...lol
[03:32] <Stargazer> Firefox blows, it keeps crashing
[03:33] <Jimmy1> yikes
[03:33] <Jimmy1> one of these guys would know
[03:33] <Jimmy1> im a noob
[03:33] <Jimmy1> :)
[03:33] <Jimmy1> anyway thanks guys for trying to get unrar working ! ill try again latter on
[03:33] <Jimmy1> cya
[03:34] <dennister> anyone have an idea of a distro that I could get loaded/installed onto this tecra?
[03:34] <Stargazer> Unrar ? just open the .rar file with Firefox and when it says "download this file.." use fileroller to open it
[03:35] <steini> Just press the K->System->Adept Manager and search for unrar.. install unrarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
[03:35] <steini> just uninstall all the other rar things ;)
[03:36] <steini> dont confuse the computer
[03:36] <Stargazer> Lol y'all figure that out AFTER the guy leaves, lol
[03:36] <steini> he went
[03:36] <steini> whoops
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> haha
[03:36] <steini> its late over here and i got excited after fixing my problem from earlier (if someone checked that :P) i installed something called emerald
[03:37] <steini> hope that is good enough
[03:37] <steini> atleast its working for now
[03:37] <steini> I just started to use linux and iḿ in love :D Only know it from my xbox and you cant really do that much with it on there
[03:39] <Stargazer> Lol
[03:43] <latitu> iam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)?
[03:43] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:45] <linuxguymarshall> I am having 3D problems
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> I prefer 2d problems
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> 3d are just 3 times as hard ;)
[03:46] <BluesKaj> linuxguymarshall, which graphics card ?
[03:46] <linuxguymarshall> BluesKaj:NVIDIA 6200
[03:46] <BluesKaj> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:46] <linuxguymarshall> BluesKaj: I just installed my drivers and now FlightGear, TORCS, and Blender will not even begin to boot
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !3D
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, system settings/ desktop/ screen saver
[03:51] <narothepharoh> blueskaj: it is not there but it is in settings screensaver preferances and they are all there its just when i pick one the screen will just go blank when its time to come on
[03:51] <BluesKaj> linuxguymarshall, not a nvidia user , but my crappy ati onboard does flightgear. It took some xorg editing and tweaking , so i'm sure some ppl here can help.
[03:53] <carlos_> español
[03:53] <carlos_> buenas tardes
[03:53] <carlos_> como estan todos?
[03:53] <prince_jammys> !es
[03:53] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> narothepharoh, are you linking the screensaver to a  personal file with jpegs or one of the kubuntu options in the list ?
[03:54] <latitu> iam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)?
[03:56] <narothepharoh> blueskaj just using the options that are there
[04:02] <chan_> hi
[04:02] <ISS_Student> hello
[04:05] <latitu>  if i dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz      , it will copy data including freespace too or just files ?
[04:08] <narothepharoh> blueskaj just using the options that are there
[04:09] <greeg> hi. i have a makefile for a one file program  whats wrong with line 3 http://rafb.net/p/uNz5zc39.html  ?
[04:11] <dennister> omg...i think i finally got a live version loaded on the tecra...feather, with acpi=off and fbuffer
[04:12] <dennister> there's hope for the dual-booting demo tecra yet :)
[04:13] <dennister> but i'm falling asleep here...perhaps i will be usccessful with a hdd install using similar methods tomorrow :)...g'night all
[04:14] <BluesKaj> yeah, sacktime for me as well
[04:19] <latitu> how to completely check a partition? ext3
[04:21] <ISS_Student> Finally after much tinkering I got KNetworkManager to show on taskbar in KDE4
[04:50] <devin_> can anyone tell me how to disable this feature. whatever window or tab my mouse hover over its selecting and its beyond annoying to me?
[04:55] <PhilRod> that's the focus policy
[04:55] <PhilRod> it's set in, um, let me see
[04:55] <PhilRod> system settings -> window behaviour -> focus policy
[04:55] <devin_> got it thanks
[04:55]  * PhilRod is considering switching to focus-follows-mouse
[04:56] <PhilRod> you probably want click-to-focus (which is like what windows does)
[04:56] <devin_> well idk i just always bump my mouse and when im typing it messes me up
[04:57] <ragsagar> is kubuntu 8.04 is coming with kde 4??
[04:57] <ragsagar> anyone?? all are sleeping online??
[04:58] <PhilRod> devin_: yeah, I suspect that would happen to me too - the advantage of focus-follows-mouse is that you can focus a window without raising it
[04:58] <PhilRod> but the help on that page says it breaks Alt+Tab, which is too high a price to pay, for me at least
[04:58] <PhilRod> !patience | ragsagar
[04:58] <ubotu> ragsagar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:59] <PhilRod> hrm, that wasn't the one I wanted
[04:59] <devin_> did you try it?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> You can get a Hardy KDE4 or kde3 isntall cd.  You can install both afterwards if you want.
[04:59] <devin_> man it drove me crazy
[04:59] <Dr_willis> focus follows mouse - used to be real common ages ago.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Old-skool window managers. :)
[05:00] <ragsagar> iam asking abt the cd they ships!
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ragsagar,  You mean the 'shipit' cd's - no idea on those.   I imagine they will be the kde3, or ubuntu. (they do have kubuntu shipit service?)
[05:01] <devin_> im just going to wait till KDE4 is officially out
[05:02] <ragsagar> yeah there is shipit service for kubuntu and edubuntu tooo
[05:03] <devin_> any of you using compiz-fusion on kde?
[05:04] <ragsagar> iam not
[05:04] <Dr_willis> devin_,  ive toyed with it.
[05:04] <ragsagar> iam just using compiz
[05:05] <ragsagar> to use compiz fusion we have to rremove compiz first
[05:05] <devin_> me too but it just ran so much better on ubuntu
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I tend to disable it under gnome, or kde. its jsut more hassle then its worth
[05:06] <ragsagar> it is eating ma resource
[05:07] <ragsagar> as i have only 376mb ram
[05:07] <ragsagar> it is making my system too slow!
[05:08] <devin_> i suppose so after it loses its 'wow' factor but i haven't been on linux for a good while. things are defiantly improving
[05:10] <ragsagar> !kde4
[05:10] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:10] <tiberius1701> hi i am running kubuntu 8.04 hardy, i enabled the propritay ati drivers, it show install the fglrx driver, but under system settings and monitor and display it show the vesa driver is this normal?
[05:10] <ragsagar> !compiz-fusion
[05:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:12] <tiberius1701> hey if compiz is not installed and i enable desktop effects is that why i get a white screen after reboot?
[05:13] <devin_> more than likely
[05:13]  * PhilRod wonders how or where you enable desktop effects if compiz isn't installed
[05:14] <tiberius1701> good that solves that problem, cuz i thought i had a problem with ati driver fglrx blah blah
[05:14] <tiberius1701> under system desktop effects
[05:16]  * devin_ searching for Tums 
[05:16] <ragsagar> !desktop effects
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Dr_willis> !compiz | ragsagar
[05:17] <ubotu> ragsagar: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :) and thats about it for the bot info on the topic
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[05:18] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:20] <ragsagar> Dr_willis,  wat was that for??
[05:20] <ragsagar> :D
[05:20] <ragsagar> !basero
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <ragsagar> !ubotu
[05:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:32] <micha__> does someone know where kubuntu's shutdown config file lives /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc is the normal path but all the changes in here get ignored ...
[05:32] <Dr_willis> You did restart the kdm service?
[05:33] <micha__> Dr_willis: yes but i can change whatever and it will not use the file
[05:33] <Dr_willis> micha__,  interesting.. ive never had that issue.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> what are you changeing exactly?
[05:35] <micha__> Dr_willis: you could also use the system settings login manager and change log in wallpaper and so on but it doesnt use that
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. It does for me.. but all my machines are now hardy based. So i cant confirm/deny your issue. sorry.
[05:36] <micha__> Dr_willis: i have the problem that my box does not fully shut down if i use the gui ... sudo shutdown -PH now does work ...
[05:37] <Dr_willis> micha__,  i tend to use the halt, command from a terminal. :) as a 'cheat' you could make a 'shutdown' user, and make their shell be the proper shutdown command.   I did that ages ago. if i loged in as that user from kdm/shell/whever. shstem would shutdown.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> You are saying that in the kdmrc configs the 2 lines....
[05:37] <Dr_willis> HaltCmd=/sbin/poweroff
[05:37] <Dr_willis> RebootCmd=/sbin/reboot
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Do not propelry shutdown your machine eh?
[05:39] <micha__> exactly ... so i was hoping to find the config file and change /sbin/shutdown with /sbin/shutdown -Ph now ,,, since that is working in the terminal
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i dont even see 'shutdown' in there.. let me see
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i got poweroff and reboot. :) no shutdown
[05:40] <Dr_willis> I wonder how shutdown and poweroff, differ.
[05:41] <micha__> it's using poweroff ... poweroff doesnt work here shutdown does
[05:41] <devin_> can you run emerald without compiz?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Interesting.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> devin_,  not really.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> emerald is one of the 3 window decorators that compiz can use.
[05:43] <olll> but kubuntu is not reading that file ... GreetString=Welcome to Kubuntu at %n for example can be chaned but it does not get used on log in
[05:43] <Dr_willis> so micha__  youa re using      HaltCmd=/sbin/shutdown -PH
[05:43] <olll> olll = micha
[05:44] <Dr_willis> olll,  thers also 2 seperate kdm login screens, the fancy graphical one, and the simpiler one.
[05:44] <olll> sorry Dr_willis
[05:44] <Dr_willis> if using    HaltCmd=/sbin/shutdown -PH    --- Im wondering if it shouldent be    HaltCmd='/sbin/shutdown -PH'
[05:44] <olll> do you know where the fancy one is
[05:45] <Dr_willis> fancy one is the default for a local X login, the simpiler oneis the default for xdmcp logins i recall
[05:45] <olll> for some reasons the poweroff command does not fully shut down ... shutdown does
[05:51] <yyyyyyyyy> i made a desktop shortcut shutdown -Ph now that works as well but that is not the same f*cking internet here
[05:53] <Dr_willis> sounds like some apci quirk/issue going on , as the the reason the 2 commands differ.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> acpi  I think is  the proper term. :)
[05:54] <micha11> hmm that i don't like about *bunut ... they use strange config files sometimes
[05:54] <Dr_willis> advanced power controll interface.  -  what happens if you hit alt-ctrl-delete from the kdm screen? :) that kicks my pc into shutdown mode.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> heck - i can just hit the power button and it will start shutting down.. the 2 yr old discovered THAT feature for me today
[05:54] <Dr_willis> 'push the big button, and papa yells!'
[05:55] <micha11> Dr_willis: that works ... in fact i have to do so ... if i klick the gui button it will start to shut down and than i have to help with ctrl alt del
[05:56] <Dr_willis> heh. So if you make changes to the kdm settings with the GUI tool (as root/admin of course) the config file does change? or does it not even change?
[05:58] <micha11> Dr_willis: if i change the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file or system settings > login manager it does not change anything ... but the gui login manager writes to the file /etc/kde3/...
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ok.. You are NOT using kdm4 are you? You never installed kde4 did you?
[05:59]  * Dr_willis is just guessing at whats going no now. Im out of ideas
[06:01] <micha11> now Dr_willis i need to use this box kde4 is not for working ... not at the moment ... thanks anyway for your help ... ill keep searching
[06:10] <DarkestHour> what you talking about willis... sorry. had to.
[06:10] <rootlinuxusr> anybody know where the file is that has the quote "#3) With great power comes great responsibility."
[06:12] <DarkestHour> seems like it would be something with sudo
[06:12] <rootlinuxusr> right, but i'm not all positive where the sudo command is located
[06:13] <DarkestHour> it's in /usr/bin/
[06:14] <DarkestHour> ahh thats right, it's the message when you first use sudo, lol. man has it been a while.
[06:14] <micha11> it's config file is in /etc/sudoers
[06:19] <DarkestHour> man i'll tell you, hardy is great. especially with kde4.
[06:24] <daSkreech> Does anyone have any links to the dapper cd
[06:24] <p_quarles> daSkreech, for kubuntu? isn't it on all of the main mirrors?
[06:25] <daSkreech> it's a DVD on the mirrors
[06:25] <daSkreech> no idea when that happened
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i wonder if some of the mirrors may have cleaned out stuff to make space.
[06:26] <Guest87185> hi I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm a total newbie and my kubuntu crashed during update
[06:26] <Guest87185> now it loads up to just a prompt
[06:26] <daSkreech> Dr_willis: couldn't kill them to keep the torrent up
[06:27] <daSkreech> Guest87185: have you tried to start X ?
[06:27] <Troggy> Is this the right place to diagnose installation troubles with hardy?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !hardy
[06:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:27] <eagles0513875> does anyone know where i can find a list of kde pkgs that are needed for kde to run
[06:27] <p_quarles> daSkreech, umm, it's right there -- i'm not sure where you're looking
[06:27] <p_quarles> http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/6.06.2/
[06:28] <daSkreech> p_quarles: whoot thanks
[06:28] <p_quarles> daSkreech, go up one directory (to "releases") to get to the kubuntu-specific directory
[06:29] <Troggy> I have weird random squashfs failures when trying to install hardy from the 8.04RC CDs (amd64)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Troggy,  i would say start with checking the md5 of the iso image, if its good. burn it at the slowest speed your burner can handle.
[06:30] <Troggy> md5sums check out ok
[06:31] <eagles0513875> what kernel is going to be included in the release is it 2.6.25
[06:31] <Troggy> At some point, the squashfs driver just seems to bail out and delivers gibberish
[06:31] <Troggy> The installation reports a read error and aborts
[06:32] <gnub_daemon> I'm getting squashfs errors when trying to install mythbuntu
[06:32] <Troggy> I've burned the CD 4 times now, checked it, even tried to install plain ubuntu which worked fine...
[06:33] <gnub_daemon> 8.04 as well...and shouldn't it be an official release by now...it is 04/08 already
[06:34] <Troggy> Well. of course it's an RC, that's why I'm trying to work out the cause so I can file a bug
[06:34] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon it will be official on the 24th
[06:35] <gnub_daemon> ah...thanks for the info
[06:35] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon no prob if its reporting a read error there must be somethign wrong with ur burn
[06:37] <gnub_daemon> is that what buffer I/O error means?  It says unable to read fragment cache block/ page 83e1c and unable to execute /bin/sh for rc-default
[06:42] <gnub_daemon> well I've got it checking integrity and have an alternate-iso DLing in the background
[06:43] <gnub_daemon> AHA...errors found in 8 files...
[06:43] <Troggy> Reboot, check again ^^
[06:43] <Troggy> I sometimes get no errors when checking my CD, sometimes I get a whole lot, depending on when squashfs will crash
[06:44] <gnub_daemon> already on it
[06:45] <gnub_daemon> I had problems with the latest iso of gparted also
[06:45] <gnub_daemon> just kept scanning hardware...
[06:48] <DarkestHour> I just finished install kubuntu on my friends machine here, i had set acpi=off on his machine just for the to stop locking up at the hardware abstraction layer.
[06:49] <gnub_daemon> 9 errors this time Troggy
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> either the cd has errors or it doesn't
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's finding different errors every time, you should probably consider running memtest86
[06:50] <Troggy> I sometimes get 5 errors, then next boot none
[06:50] <Dr_willis> That sounds.. bad
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Troggy, you should probably consider memtest as well, this is not normal operation
[06:50] <Dr_willis> i wonder if it could be dust in the cd/fingerprints?
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, those would have to be some serious fingerprints.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  I have a Grandson... :) its amazing what he can get dirty
[06:51] <Dr_willis> 'honey, how did the 2 yr old get handprints on the ceiling?'
[06:52] <Dr_willis> 'dear im more worried about the Footprints on the ceiling!'
[06:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:52] <gnub_daemon> Well I installed Kubuntu on the same machine a few hours ago and it went fine...I just couldn't get dvd playback
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> spider kid, spider kid, does whatever a spider kid does, can he swing from a web, no he can't, he's a kid...
[06:52] <gnub_daemon> and now I get 6 erroneous files
[06:53] <Dr_willis> gnub_daemon,  so to summarize.. you installed kubuntu, now on each boot up. it gives different errors?
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> gnub_daemon, i repeat, memtest86
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, different errors reading the livecd, and the md5 checked out
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> is what i was understanding
[06:53] <gnub_daemon> no...I'm trying to install mythbuntu...I just get the same errors that Troggy was getting...It won't let me install
[06:53] <Dr_willis> I had an ide cable that got 'cut' from  the metal in the case once. you could barely see the one cut wire on the outside edge..
[06:54] <Troggy> I'm currently memtesting the machine just for the book (and filing a bug report while doing that)
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Troggy, i would let it run for a while
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> if it were fingerprints or a scratch, you would expect the errors to come up at the same place each time
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> in this case, they aren't
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that says to me, ide or ram issue
[06:55] <Troggy> I doubt it's the RAM though.
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ram's more likely, so check that first
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> napoleon doubted he'd lose, too.
[06:57] <Troggy> I just stressed the machine the other day to check if my cooling worked. An hour of prime95 should reveal RAM defects if there are any
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> overclocking?
[06:57] <Troggy> Nope
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> something isn't adding up here
[06:58] <Troggy> Just replaced the boxed cooler with something that doesn't sound like a 747 taking off
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ever think that something may have gotten damaged?
[06:58] <Daisuke_Ido> it's entirely possible
[06:59] <Troggy> That's why I tested the sys
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> if i remember right, prime95 is a VERY rigorous stress test that could itself create problems
[07:00] <spine55> exit
[07:00] <spine55> exit
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just saying, look at all the possibilities
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and try to launch the livecd on another machine, see if the same thing happens
[07:01] <gnub_daemon> now I didn't think of that
[07:05] <Troggy> Memtest86 does only come as a 32bit app, doesn't it?
[07:06] <devin_> smells like skunk in my room =\
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Troggy, yes
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> (here's a solution for >4gb - don't test it all at once!)
[07:07] <Troggy> Ouch that would be a major operation
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> how much do you have?
[07:08] <Troggy> 4x 1GB
[07:08] <daSkreech> p_quarles: thanks!
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> test 2 at a time
[07:09] <Troggy> But my cooler's overlapping the RAMs so I'd have to take it off each time I change the sticks
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> your cooler is dissipating heat onto the ram
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> brilliant.
[07:10] <Troggy> Nope
[07:11] <gnub_daemon> not if the fan sucks air OUT of the heatsink
[07:11] <Troggy> It's just the fan and it's not like it's making contact
[07:11] <gnub_daemon> O.o
[07:11] <gnub_daemon> or so I would presume
[07:11]  * Daisuke_Ido headdesks
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and you've been having these problems since changing HSF units?
[07:12] <Troggy> Got a 120mm fan blowing towards the back of the case
[07:12]  * Dr_willis wonders how a fan can suck air in any other direction then out of the heatsinks..  :)
[07:12] <Troggy> Nope, never had any problems until I decided I got bored of openSuSE
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> it's the livecd that has errors, right?
[07:13] <Troggy> Yup
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and different errors each time
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> sometimes none
[07:13] <Troggy> Well, it's always the squashfs driver
[07:14] <gnub_daemon> same way "the cd can either have errors or not have errors" ;)
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so that's a yes.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> I would wonder what  would happen if you made a usb-installer/live cd on a thumb drive.. or swaped out the cd drive.
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm putting 2:1 odds on it being ram, who's with me?
[07:14] <gnub_daemon> but it could blow into the heatsink...mine seems to work better that way
[07:15] <Troggy> Mine blows into the heatsink towards the back of the case (where another fan sucks the air out)
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> and that fan is mounted on the side of the heatsink closest to the front of the case - right above the ram
[07:16] <Troggy> Well, right above the first bank
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> so don't mess with the first bank
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> pull 3 and 4
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> test 1 and 2
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> leave 1 alone, pull 2, add 3 and 4 (it'll do 3gb)
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still betting it's a ram issue
[07:18] <Troggy> 25 minutes and no problem
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> or your processor has (had) a bent pin or two
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> don't laugh, i've seen it happen
[07:18] <andrew_> Is there any way to combat accidental touches on a touchpad?
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> machine works more or less fine, but there are occasional issues
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> found they were more prevalent in I/O
[07:21] <fildo> !sound
[07:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:21] <Troggy> Kernel and drivers should be the same for ubuntu and kubuntu though, right?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> the only difference is desktop environment and the included apps
[07:23] <gnub_daemon> andrew...there is a way...I can't recall how...but I think it was a package that I installed...you might check your favorite search engine or the ubuntu forums
[07:23] <Troggy> Because as I said, Ubuntu installed just fine. Only difference was the availability of a DVD for ubuntu which I suppose doesn't need to compress using squashfs
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> see if it works well in another pc
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> if it doesn't, it's a disc issue
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> if it does, you do have a hardware issue
[07:26] <tyler> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:26] <Troggy> I don't have a spare machine where I can actually install a system but I guess a VM shold suffice for that
[07:27] <tyler> ?
[07:28] <jussio1> !kubuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:28] <gnub_daemon> which is better...xfs or jfs?
[07:28] <jussio1> !best | gnub_daemon
[07:28] <ubotu> gnub_daemon: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> gnub_daemon, ext3
[07:29] <tyler> where can i access my respitories in kubuntu?  It came installed when I installed Ubuntu?
[07:29] <gnub_daemon> then what's your opinion...user for mythtv
[07:29] <Jucato> tyler: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories.
[07:29] <Jucato> !repositories | tyler
[07:29] <ubotu> tyler: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[07:30] <jussio1> tyler: the program adept, inthe system menu
[07:30] <tyler> jussio1: I dont see that anywhere sorry
[07:31] <tyler> this is hardy heron though
[07:31] <jussio1> tyler: go to the kmenu -> system -> adept
[07:31] <devin_> how's hardy running?
[07:31] <tyler> good on my macbook
[07:31] <jussio1> Hardy help in #ubuntu+1 anyway :)
[07:31] <tyler> still some drivers isues to be worked out
[07:32] <linuxguymarshall> Can I make Konquerer start a web page on start-up?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> since konqueror is a web browser, i would imagine that would be possible, yes
[07:32] <jussio1> linuxguymarshall: yes, in the configure konqueror its there...
[07:32] <tyler> jussio1: Thanks I found it
[07:32] <jussio1> tyler: :)
[07:32] <tyler> Do you guys prefer gnome or kde?
[07:32] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: open the page, then then go to to settings --> save view profiel "web browser"
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> tyler, you're asking a biased audience
[07:33] <linuxguymarshall> I mean like when I log in Konquerer will start and open it's homepage
[07:33] <jussio1> tyler: thats really offtopic for here.
[07:33] <Jucato> linuxguymarshall: yes. open the website you want it to start with. make sure it's the only tab open, then go to Settings -> Save View Profile (make sure you're saving the Web Browsing profile)
[07:33] <tyler> ok
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> you're going to get a strong slant toward KDE here (hence the channel name)
[07:33] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: have it open when you log off
[07:33] <jussio1> linuxguymarshall: set the home page of konq, then set konq to start with !autostart
[07:33] <gnub_daemon> i prefer fluxbox...   O.o  o.O
[07:34] <linuxguymarshall> K
[07:34] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: assuming you have it set to save last session....
[07:34] <gnub_daemon> not really though
[07:36] <Troggy> 45 minutes with no errors, I'll call it for now.
[07:37] <gnub_daemon> things seem to be going smoothly for me with the alternate-install
[07:38] <gnub_daemon> THAT diskcheck turned up no errors at least
[07:38] <tyler> i wanna install compiz fusion but its not showing up the the respitories....ALL OF THEM ARE ENABLED
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> gnub_daemon, that's good news
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> tyler, well, did you update after enabling them?
[07:38] <gnub_daemon> indeed...I can't survive without my mythtv
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and then, i dunno, sudo apt-get install compiz?
[07:39] <ganapati_> how to change boot list order??
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> might want to throw compizconfig-settings-manager in there too for advanced configuration
[07:40] <tyler> thanks
[07:43] <gnub_daemon> big red screen saying there were errors installing sofware
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !info compiz
[07:43] <ubotu> compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[07:43] <Dr_willis> compiz is in main.., if it cant be found.. somthing is really wrong
[07:46] <gnub_daemon> 8S
[07:47] <gnub_daemon> at least I got the base system installed...is there a good walkthrough for installing mythbuntu packages?
[07:50] <gnub_daemon> ok...now I have no desktop environment
[07:51] <Dr_willis> the mythbuntu homepage?
[07:51] <jussio1> !mythbuntu
[07:51] <ubotu> Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information
[07:51] <Dr_willis> I was thinking it was just installing mythbuntu-desktop :) wheni messed with it.
[07:52] <fildo> guys i have a sound issue if anyone is willing to help me
[07:52] <gnub_daemon> just aks
[07:52] <fildo> ive tried to work it out, but now im just stuck
[07:52] <gnub_daemon> that's right...I said AKS
[07:52] <jussio1> fignew: ask away :)
[07:52] <jussio1> argh
[07:52] <fildo> i have onboard sound, and also a pci sblive card aswell
[07:52] <fildo> it been working , then all of a sudden it just stoped
[07:53] <fildo> the both load. but when i look in kmix
[07:53] <fildo> i have no mixers
[07:53] <fildo> and also no sound
[07:55] <gnub_daemon> have you tried disabling the onboard sound in BIOS and see if that does anything?
[07:55] <fildo> yeah it is
[07:55] <fildo> i reaactived it aswell, but still nothing
[07:56] <gnub_daemon> hmmm
[07:56] <fildo> when i lspci
[07:56] <fildo> the card still come up
[07:56] <gnub_daemon> might try to reinstall alsa or some such
[07:56] <fildo> no errors in dmesg
[07:56] <fildo> i did that also
[07:56] <fildo> alsa-base
[07:57] <fildo> n utils
[07:58] <kubist> hi there! could you help me please with my screen&resolution problem?
[07:58] <gnub_daemon> is this a dual boot bachine?
[07:58] <fildo> no
[07:58] <gnub_daemon> fildo
[07:59] <jussio1> fildo: I assume you covered the basics and checked the sound system is enabled
[07:59] <fildo> standalone kubuntu fiesty install
[07:59] <fildo> yes
[07:59] <gnub_daemon> oh...I was going to suggest you try them in Windows...but that's not feasible
[07:59] <jussio1> !sound | fildo, maybe something here:
[07:59] <ubotu> fildo, maybe something here:: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:59] <fildo> yeah i was going thru that before
[08:00] <gnub_daemon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:00] <gnub_daemon> or that
[08:00] <kaminix^> Hmm... I think Konqueror's stuck in some offline mode. I unloaded the default network modules and added my own, now Konqueror won't surf the web.
[08:02] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ r u on hardy
[08:02] <kaminix^> I am.
[08:03] <eagles0513875>  kaminix^
[08:03] <eagles0513875> have u tried rebooting the machine
[08:04] <kaminix^> No, but I will need it to load my own drivers instead of the default ones before that. Though I don't know where they're saved... (used insmod on a file this time)
[08:04] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ ok r u connected through a switch which is then connected to the modem
[08:05] <kaminix^> Well, a router, but yes.
[08:05] <gnub_daemon> sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop is working btw
[08:05] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ try this try resetting the router. cuz i have been having some interesting issues connecting to a small switch im wondering if its something on my end or kubuntu end
[08:05] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ turn the power off wait 20 sec then back on
[08:06] <tyler> whats the command to start compiz fusion for the first time
[08:06] <eagles0513875> !compiz-fusion
[08:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:06] <kaminix^> eagles0513875: Done that all of yesterday, apparently this is a quite known problem with ralink cards in ubuntu through the past three releases. Anyway, it's working now... in firefox apt and well, everything except konqueror and knetworkmanager
[08:07] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ i would file a bug against any pkgs ur having issues with
[08:07] <eagles0513875> speaking of i need to setup my laptop again and go back to bug fixing
[08:08] <Ketrel> I installed ksynaptics (to stop accidental taps), but now I can't seem to scroll by sliding along the right edge of my touchpad. Is there any middleground?
[08:08] <kaminix^> There is already a bug report, solved this through the comments. Though I still don't know where make install put the driver and how I make it load instead of the default ones.
[08:08] <gnub_daemon> HUZZAH!   Mythbuntu desktop is loading!
[08:08] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ what u would have to do is black list the default driver
[08:09] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ thing is im not sure where it would be
[08:09] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ only place i am thinking is some where in /dev
[08:09] <kaminix^> eagles0513875: Then how do I make it load my new one instead? I know how to blacklist it, but that's pretty much all.
[08:09] <kaminix^> Isn't /dev just a device registry linking to the actual devices?
[08:10] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ im not sure if bout /dev but in regards to having it load ur driver u might wanna take a look at the init.d scripts for networking
[08:10] <eagles0513875> if anyone knows more to help kaminix^ feel free to but in and speak ur mind
[08:11] <kaminix^> eagles0513875: The readme says 'create(edit) 'ifcfg-ra0' file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/,' but I don't have any such folder. :/
[08:12] <eagles0513875> let me take a look at something on my linux machine
[08:12] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ i dotn have that folder either
[08:13] <kaminix^> Hmm... this is no fun. :p
[08:13] <eagles0513875> kaminix^for the longest time i had a headache of my broadcom wireless card as well as open gl on my ati
[08:15] <kaminix^> eagles0513875: Yeah, I've heard about the ATI troubles. Because of it I'm staying away from ATI upon buying my next machine. ^^
[08:15] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ u goign to be on for a while cuz i need to hop on my linux machine and get to setting that up again
[08:15] <kaminix^> I'll be on all day probably
[08:15] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ since gutsy has that restricted device manager its been heavenly even for my broadcom card
[08:16] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ have u checked in the restricted device manager
[08:16] <kaminix^> The RT2500 doesn't need restricted drivers though =/
[08:17] <eagles0513875> kaminix^ im wondering if the linux driver is just uber buggy and im wondering if a restricted driver might fix the solution
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ill brb on my linux box
[08:22] <fildo> fixed
[08:23] <kubist> can anybody help? have some problem with resolution settings, picture of my desktop: http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fg4.jpg - have 1280x800 lcd screen, as you can see 1280x800 background, but the highest resolution to choose in settings is 1024x768 and indeed the windows only use that resolution...
[08:24] <jonathan__> kaminix: im back
[08:25] <tyler> I installed compiz fusion and i can see the effects and stuff but where can i change them....i go to desktop effects to try to change the settings and it says compiz-kde package isnt installed but i cant find that package using the respitories...compiz fusion is installed though
[08:26] <monkeybritches> kubist: Have you tried reconfiguring your display?
[08:26] <kubist> yes i did all the basics
[08:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im back
[08:27] <kaminix> and gone again... O_o
[08:27] <kubist> monkeybritches: have you any idea how can i get actually two resolutions at the same time?
[08:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: had to change my nick this is my registered one
[08:28] <monkeybritches> Did you try the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[08:28] <eagles0513875> kaminix: time to start downloadin the release client if its even out yet
[08:28] <monkeybritches> Two? Do you have a dual display?
[08:29] <kubist> monkeybritches: did try that - do not have dual display (or at least do not know about it) :) but what i ment you can see on the picture i provided a link for above
[08:30] <eagles0513875> kaminix: out of curiosity are you on 32bit or 64bit
[08:30] <kubist> monkeybritches: http://pastebin.com/m129a9f53 this is my xorg.conf
[08:32] <gnub_daemon> hmmm...no UPnP backends found when I run either the backend or the frontend...
[08:32] <monkeybritches> You can remove all the other resolutions except 1280x800 since that's native
[08:34] <kubist> monkeybritches: that does not help, already tried
[08:35] <eagles0513875> !upnp | gnub_daemon
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <eagles0513875> !info upnp
[08:35] <ubotu> Package upnp does not exist in gutsy
[08:36] <monkeybritches> Have you installed 915resolution?
[08:36] <gnub_daemon> 8.04
[08:36] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: try in #ubuntu+1 thats hardy support in there
[08:39] <kubist> monkeybritches: 915 did not help, does not even support i965 - i have that
[08:40] <monkeybritches> Ok...
[08:40] <sacha_> silly intel powertop hasnt helped with my power consumption but froze my compter once instead
[08:43] <iltechie> want to learn  bash from examples, howto index filessearching  in   system ,so searching words in files be quick as google?
[08:46] <monkeybritches> kubist: Does your resolution come up as normal in the LiveCD?
[08:47] <monkeybritches> iltechie: Try "grep pattern file(s)"
[08:47] <monkeybritches> with "| less"
[08:49] <kubist> monkeybritches: no, but it did run once in correct 1280x800 as it started up in some kind of safe mode because i screwed up something...
[08:51] <monkeybritches> Prior to Gutsy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked for me, beyond that, I can't say what might prevent you from getting native resolution.
[08:52] <eagles0513875> iltechie: try this www.google.com/linux it finds all sites pertaining to linux and filters out all the other stuff
[08:52] <monkeybritches> But it is strange that there's a blue background behind your desktop
[08:52] <monkeybritches> I would think it should be either black or skewed
[08:53] <kubist> monkeybritches: do you think that it is possible that it somehow tries to apply dual screens on one?
[08:54] <iltechie>  eagles0513875: iltechie: try this www.google.com/linux it finds all sites pertaining to linux and filters out all the other stuff <<<< why should I do such a thing?
[08:54] <monkeybritches> kubist: Each should be a separate device so it shouldn't
[08:55] <kubist> ok, thank you for trying
[08:55] <eagles0513875> iltechie: i have found good links to online books that have all sorts of commands
[08:56] <monkeybritches> kubist: You're welcome
[08:57] <sacha_> does anyone know what channel i would go in for intel powertop/latencytop help?
[08:59] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Hey.
[08:59] <eagles0513875> kaminix: whats up
[08:59] <kaminix> You dissappeared .p
[09:00] <eagles0513875> kaminix: ive beenn in here u disappeared
[09:00] <kaminix> Possible :p
[09:00] <eagles0513875> kaminix: any luck at getting ur issue resolved permenetly
[09:00] <kaminix> I'm still trying to find the default module location and where my module went off too.
[09:00] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:00] <eagles0513875> im thinking of downloading and installing the rc
[09:01] <eagles0513875> and testing that out
[09:01] <eagles0513875> instead of updating bout 400 pkgs
[09:01] <eagles0513875> kaminix: are you on the beta or release client
[09:01] <kaminix> modinfo rt2500.ko shows the thing I made
[09:01] <kaminix> RC
[09:01] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:01] <monkeybritches> kubist: Try removing the "Virtual	1280	800" line from xorg.conf and see what happens
[09:02] <kaminix> Found the default drivers.
[09:02] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:02] <kaminix> Might solve the problem by just moving the .ko file in there... hrm...
[09:02] <eagles0513875> kaminix: might conflict with default but if u have default black listed it shouldnt be a problem
[09:03] <kaminix> The defaults are blacklisted now :)
[09:03] <gnub_daemon> I can't get access to sql
[09:03] <eagles0513875> kaminix: throw it in there and see what happens:( hopefully u dont have any essential data on ur machine
[09:03] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: is the server pkg installed
[09:03] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im having a tough time getting my project started
[09:04] <gnub_daemon> I wouldn't know...apt-get install sql-server?
[09:04] <kaminix> eagles0513875: What project?
[09:04] <eagles0513875> type apt-cache search sql
[09:04] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: that will search for all sql pkgs in command line
[09:05] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im working on developing my own easy to use clustering distro thing is kde contains a decent amount of default fluff i dont need installed
[09:05] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im using kubuntu as the basis for my distro
[09:05] <kaminix> Ah, cool. :)
[09:05] <eagles0513875> kaminix: take a look at www.beowulf.org
[09:06] <kaminix> Hmm.... now when I used modinfo rt2500 it didn't show, even though I put it in the same directory :s
[09:06] <gnub_daemon> and I'm looking for "server"  or something like "ser-mysql-module"?
[09:06] <eagles0513875> run depmod -a
[09:06] <eagles0513875> kaminix:
[09:07] <gnub_daemon> cause I see that
[09:07] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[09:07] <gnub_daemon> it's just that I get access denied and no UPnP when I try to run the mythtv front/backend
[09:07] <gnub_daemon> ok
[09:08] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: it would be nice if we could be able to watch tv via ethernet
[09:08] <eagles0513875> for those that dont have a tv tuner
[09:08] <gnub_daemon> indeed it would
[09:08] <kaminix> Now it works eagles0513875. Now how do I make it load automatically on boot? ^^
[09:08] <eagles0513875> kaminix: it should do that automatically
[09:08] <monkeybritches> Is there something on tv worth watching?
[09:09] <kaminix> eagles0513875: What? How will it know what to load? It's not loading all my modules is it?
[09:09] <gnub_daemon> adult swim
[09:09] <eagles0513875> kaminix: there is an init.d script when booting tells it what starts and in what order
[09:09] <eagles0513875> lol futurama and family guy
[09:10] <kaminix> Hmm... suppose the alias think in /etc/modprobe.d will make it load...
[09:10] <kaminix> Well, time to test. ^^
[09:10] <kaminix> brb, restart.
[09:10] <eagles0513875> kaminix: if u have any data
[09:10] <eagles0513875> kaminix: make sure u back it up
[09:25] <eagles0513875> karminix did it work
[09:25] <eagles0513875> karminix
[09:26] <eagles0513875> kaminix: did it start up at reboot
[09:26] <kaminix> eagles0513875: It did not :(
[09:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: wish i could help u out more but i have never had this issue. r u on a desktop
[09:27] <kaminix> I am. :/
[09:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: is it built onto the motherboard or a pci card
[09:28] <kaminix> Built to the motherboard. Oh, by desktop I mean not-server. Laptop.
[09:28] <kaminix> brb, reboot again. I've blacklisted the bad modules better now :p
[09:28] <eagles0513875> kaminix: wait
[09:33] <eagles0513875> kaminix: how bout now did u get it
[09:33] <kaminix> eagles0513875: The module loads! ^^ The bad modules don't!
[09:33] <kaminix> Still one problem though =/
[09:33] <eagles0513875> shoot
[09:33] <kaminix> I still have to run sudo ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.0.5 up and dhclient in order to connect. :/
[09:33] <kaminix> the wlan0 device isn
[09:34] <kaminix> 't loaded automatically
[09:34] <eagles0513875> kaminix: u could try create a script for now to automatically do all that
[09:34] <eagles0513875> kaminix: as a temp fix till u can get that sorted out
[09:34] <kaminix> And KNetworkManager don't recognize the wlan0 device :(
[09:35] <eagles0513875> kaminix: try this sudo apt-get install iptraf then once its installed do sudo iptraf
[09:35] <eagles0513875> kaminix: its handy for network usage analysis and u can also monitor ur wifi connection
[09:35] <kaminix> k, installing now.
[09:36] <nabil> 8528
[09:36] <nabil> hello!!
[09:36] <kaminix> Which one should I run eagles0513875? ip traffic monitor? interface stats?
[09:37] <eagles0513875> kaminix: hold on a sec
[09:38] <eagles0513875> kaminix: choose detailed interface stats and u can choose which interface
[09:38] <nabil> !!
[09:38] <eagles0513875> nabil: ?
[09:38] <kaminix> eagles0513875: what about the stats?
[09:38] <kaminix> Hello nabil
[09:38] <eagles0513875> kaminix: gives u bytes recieved sent up and down speeds total speed
[09:38] <nabil> Hello! I'm a new user of kubuntu 7.10 :)
[09:39] <nabil> Hello! I'm a new user of kubuntu 7.10 :)
[09:39] <eagles0513875> nabil: welcome
[09:39] <kaminix> nabil: Did you use Ubuntu before?
[09:39] <eagles0513875> nabil: if u have any questions just ask
[09:39] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Yes, what's that useful for? :s
[09:39] <nabil> I've a question!
[09:39] <eagles0513875> what the bytes sent adn recieved is useful if u have monthly download limits and u need to monitor how much data ur downloading
[09:39] <eagles0513875> !ask | nabil
[09:39] <ubotu> nabil: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:40] <nabil> I need a small distro turnin' arround tetex or texlive!
[09:40] <eagles0513875> !tetex
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tetex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <eagles0513875> !texlive
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texlive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <eagles0513875> nabil: both tetex and tex live r in the repositories as well as kile which is a latex gui
[09:41] <gnub_daemon> maybe that statement should be placed at the top of the welcome text for all channels/servers
[09:41] <gnub_daemon> cause all the gnubs say it
[09:41] <hsn_> how to lower mouse sensitivity in KDE?
[09:41] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: the one of ask
[09:41] <gnub_daemon> yes
[09:41] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Well, I don't have such restrictions ^^
[09:41] <eagles0513875> kaminix: where i am here in europe i do but screw the 10gb monthly
[09:42] <kaminix> :)
[09:42] <kaminix> In Sweden, there'd be a revolution if they limited us to 10GB ^^
[09:42] <nabil> the problem is that my Internet connection is slow :(
[09:43] <eagles0513875> nabil: what kinda connection r u on
[09:43] <nabil> only 128kbps
[09:43] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im in malta but in a few yrs time thats goign to change
[09:43] <kaminix> Where're you moving?
[09:43] <eagles0513875> nabil: nabil check in the repositories for tex or latex
[09:44] <eagles0513875> kaminix: they goign to lay down another fiber cable thats going to be able to handle 800gb bandwith so im hoping they will remove them when that happens
[09:44] <eagles0513875> nabil: even tex live but i would search for it under latex
[09:44] <nabil> thank u
[09:44] <kaminix> Ah, nice eagles0513875. :)
[09:45] <eagles0513875> nabil: no problem ur making me wanna start using it again
[09:45] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im also considering setting up my own cable internet isp
[09:45] <eagles0513875> kaminix: on all kubuntu based servers
[09:45] <eagles0513875> :p if i do set one up
[09:45] <kaminix> :o
[09:45] <kaminix> Cool
[09:45] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im workign on linux cert
[09:45] <nabil> another question: i'd like 2 use my kubuntu directly from an usb stick but my BIOS does not permit this !!
[09:46] <eagles0513875> nabil: cannot help u there how big is ur usb stick
[09:46] <eagles0513875> nabil: 2ndly its not dependent on bios r u on a laptop or desktop
[09:46] <nabil> i've 2: 1GB and 4GB
[09:46] <kaminix> nabil: If your BIOS won't allow it, then there's no helping it. You need a better BIOS if you're to use it.
[09:46] <nabil> desktop
[09:46] <eagles0513875> try install it on the 4gb one
[09:47] <kaminix> eagles0513875: I think he means he can't boot from the stick because of his BIOS.
[09:47] <nabil> by bios does not have the option: boot from usb!
[09:47] <eagles0513875> nabil: on boot up there should be a button u press to choose what u want to boot off of does ur stick show up on that list
[09:47] <oldmanemu> nabil: then it can't be done!
[09:48] <eagles0513875> oldmanemu: he could flash his bios
[09:48] <gnub_daemon> have you upgraded your BIOS to the latest version?
[09:48] <gnub_daemon> you beat me to it
[09:48] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: lol
[09:48] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: im good like that
[09:48] <gnub_daemon> great minds think alike
[09:48] <nabil> phoenix bios 2003
[09:49] <payam> Hi
[09:49] <gnub_daemon> what pc/laptop do you have
[09:49] <eagles0513875> nabil: is this machine custom built or from a manufacturer
[09:49] <gnub_daemon> HA
[09:49] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: stop stealing my thoughts:p
[09:49] <nabil> pentium 4, 1700MHz
[09:50] <gnub_daemon> brand?
[09:50] <nabil> custom build
[09:50] <gnub_daemon> oh
[09:50] <eagles0513875> nabil: what kind of motherboard do u have in it
[09:50] <gnub_daemon> hmmm...what mobo?
[09:50] <eagles0513875> gnub_daemon: haha
[09:50] <gnub_daemon> -_-
[09:50] <nabil> i think via technologies
[09:50] <payam> I worked with quanta i just tried to edit my HTML template but it f u cked all my work. I need a program like dreamwever or Fronpage. I need to desig and i need Layouts. anbody know some goood program?
[09:50] <eagles0513875> nabil: go to the manufacturer of ur motherboard and see if they have a newer bios for it
[09:51] <nabil> ok, thanx
[09:51] <eagles0513875> nabil: no prob
[09:51] <oldmanemu> payam: language please!!!
[09:51] <eagles0513875> !language | payam
[09:51] <ubotu> payam: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:51] <payam> Ad give me a answer pleas
[09:52] <kaminix> Why won't KNetworkManager recognize my Wireless interface?
[09:53] <payam> I had all of my files and images in the same mapp and now when i tried to open a HTm file i  cant see my images and the word are so straing.
[09:54] <oldmanemu> payam: have you tried re-installing the program u use for those files?
[09:54] <gnub_daemon> eh
[09:54] <gnub_daemon> that works too
[09:55] <payam> I just the quanta Plus . yes i have reinstall may times
[09:55] <gnub_daemon> wow...the new mythtv gui is kickin
[09:56] <gnub_daemon> for lack of a more appropriate word
[09:57] <kaminix> Why won't the KNetworkManager even notice I have a network card running?
[09:57] <harmental> hey guys....does anybody know a tool for creating video captures (besides wink and recordmydesktop)??
[09:57] <payam> I run Kubuntu . can i install a Fedora 3 tarball(KDE) software on my KDE?
[09:57] <kaminix> KWiFiManager recognices it.
[09:58] <llutz> kaminix: is that net-device already configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:58] <llutz> harmental: wink
[09:58] <gnub_daemon> should be able to
[09:58] <payam> I ve download a .Deb file on my desktop. what should i do to instal it?
[09:59] <Dr_willis> payam,  what is this .deb?
[09:59] <Dr_willis> one normally installs packages with the package manager. NOT by downloading specific .deb files
[09:59] <Dr_willis> 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'  should install it - IF it has no extra dependencies.. Double clicking on it MIGHT also install it
[10:01] <gnub_daemon> or install the debian package installer
[10:01] <DOOM_NX> anyone knows what this means? http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5290/screenshotvncdoomsxdeskyk0.png
[10:02] <gnub_daemon> means you need to install that package?
[10:02] <oldmanemu> DOOM_NX: it's a url link to a picure!
[10:02] <gnub_daemon> not a clue really
[10:03] <gnub_daemon> I'm assuming it's a screenshot
[10:03] <sacha_> i think its a screenshot of doom in vnc on someones desktop
[10:03] <oldmanemu> possibly
[10:03] <gnub_daemon> boosh
[10:03] <DOOM_NX> oldmanemu, :/
[10:03] <sacha_> am i right doom?
[10:03] <DOOM_NX> it's a "vncviewer localhost:1"
[10:03] <DOOM_NX> screen..
[10:03] <sacha_> i was right!
[10:04] <eagles0513875> it looks like a borked x install
[10:04] <gnub_daemon> I sez it first
[10:04] <DOOM_NX> shouldn't be able to view my desktop?
[10:04] <DOOM_NX> or something
[10:04] <sacha_> you need assistive packages installed to do this though
[10:04] <payam> ccI run Kubuntu. I would to install a file which is called'111.deb' what should i write in teminal to instal it?
[10:04] <cocoail> hi
[10:05] <sacha_> dpkg -i 111.deb ?
[10:05] <DOOM_NX> sacha_, if someone connects through tightvnc on windows will he see that message too?
[10:05] <cocoail> i got a question for the pro's
[10:05] <DOOM_NX> what are assistive packages anyway?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'  should install it - IF it has no extra dependencies.
[10:05] <cocoail> should i use 8.04 better
[10:05] <cocoail> or the 7 version
[10:05] <cocoail> 8/04 beta
[10:05] <Dr_willis> cocoail,   8.04 is due to be released in a few days
[10:05] <sacha_> 8.04 beta is workin fine here
[10:05] <sacha_> it's actually RC, not beta
[10:05] <gnub_daemon> 8.04 isn't quite done yet...but works well for me too
[10:06] <cocoail> RC
[10:06] <Dr_willis> this close to release.. we better hope its very useable.. :)
[10:06] <Dr_willis> its getting close to crunch time!
[10:06] <cocoail> i can see your all excited
[10:06] <cocoail> lol
[10:06] <sacha_> cr... un... CH!
[10:06] <DOOM_NX> so any clue? :P
[10:06] <cocoail> so install the beta yeah ?
[10:06] <gnub_daemon> though when I go to shutdown I only get the options to logoff, shutdown and reset
[10:06] <sacha_> damn, it broke
[10:06] <sacha_> cocoail: correction: the release candidate
[10:06] <cocoail> it wont mess with my linux exsperience
[10:06] <cocoail> it says beta
[10:06] <gnub_daemon> suspend and hibernate are nowhere to be found
[10:06] <cocoail> from where im downloading it from
[10:06] <sacha_> cocoail: then you are looking at the wrong one
[10:07] <gnub_daemon> look for the rc
[10:07] <cocoail> is it going to be the same as the release
[10:07] <sacha_> pretty much
[10:07] <cocoail> should i just bloody wait for the final release
[10:07] <gnub_daemon> close enough as to make no nevermind
[10:07] <sacha_> RC is pretty much same as release. may be a few bugs fixed
[10:07] <cocoail> all these options
[10:07] <Dr_willis> Linux is all about flexibility and options
[10:07] <sacha_> and when the release comes out, you can upgrade to it
[10:07] <gnub_daemon> I'd go with rc over beta if I were you
[10:08] <sacha_> no sweat from your RC install
[10:08] <cocoail> so it will upgrade easily
[10:08] <sacha_> yeah
[10:08] <cocoail> without having to uninstall
[10:08] <sacha_> thats right
[10:08] <cocoail> cool
[10:08] <cocoail> ill get the RC
[10:08] <cocoail> can u give me a link
[10:08] <sacha_> in fact, you can install ubuntu 6.10 and upgrade to 8.04 if you really wanted to
[10:08] <gnub_daemon> just sudo apt-get upgrade I believe
[10:08] <cocoail> cool
[10:08] <cocoail> i saw linux xp lol
[10:08] <gnub_daemon> that seems to break packages and dependencies for me sacha
[10:08] <cocoail> they wouldnt money for it though
[10:08] <sacha_> cocoail: http://www.kubuntu.org/
[10:09] <gnub_daemon> yuck
[10:09] <cocoail> im not paying for windows
[10:09] <cocoail> lol
[10:09] <cocoail> in a different kernal
[10:09] <gnub_daemon> it's just linux that LOOKS like windows
[10:09] <sacha_> i get windows for free thru microsoft connect anyway
[10:09] <gnub_daemon> how's that sacha?
[10:09] <cocoail> cool thanks guys
[10:09] <sacha_> i beta test vista, vista is released, i get 3 cd keys
[10:10] <sacha_> i beta test server 2008, server 2008 is released, i get 1 cd key
[10:10] <cocoail> is it worth going to vista ?
[10:10] <gnub_daemon> ah...I didn't much care for vista really
[10:10] <sacha_> its worth stickin with linux IMHO
[10:10] <gnub_daemon> it's what got me started on linux in the first place
[10:10] <sacha_> but server 2008 > vista if you are wondering
[10:10] <sacha_> if you were going to install windows at all, go with 2008
[10:11] <gnub_daemon> but I need XP for my music writing softwares
[10:11] <payam> I instal it
[10:11] <cocoail> mmmm
[10:11] <cocoail> is it easy to hack
[10:11] <sacha_> gnub_daemon: doesnt work in wine?
[10:11] <cocoail> vista
[10:11] <cocoail> u know download a dodgy copy
[10:11] <gnub_daemon> nope
[10:11] <sacha_> dont know, dont care, i have 3 keys
[10:11] <cocoail> and activate it
[10:11] <cocoail> can i have one
[10:11] <gnub_daemon> not even with realtime-kernel
[10:12] <payam> Do you want to active wista?
[10:12] <monkeybritches> I think a bad case of leprosy would be more enjoyable than Vista
[10:12] <gnub_daemon> HA...no doubt
[10:13] <cocoail> should i downlaod the alternative
[10:13] <cocoail> or desktop
[10:13] <cocoail> alternative is probably quicker
[10:13] <gnub_daemon> prolly desktop if you're a first time user
[10:13] <Dr_willis> depends on your needs. :)
[10:13] <cocoail> im not
[10:13] <sacha_> cocoail: desktop is nice. you can run ubuntu off the cd to see what you're getting in to before you install
[10:13] <cocoail> but i know little
[10:13] <gnub_daemon> I always have probs with alt
[10:14] <payam> When do you use 'apt-get install '???
[10:14] <sacha_> that way you know beforehand if things wont work out
[10:14] <cocoail> ok ill use desktop
[10:14] <sacha_> payam: to install packages that are in your repositories
[10:14] <gnub_daemon> i386-desktop
[10:14] <cocoail> but i can still install from the desktop version yet ?
[10:14] <cocoail> yes
[10:15] <gnub_daemon> yes
[10:15] <cocoail> excellent
[10:15] <Dr_willis> correct
[10:16] <sacha_> you load up kubuntu, see the desktop in all its glory and click the install link on desktop
[10:16] <cocoail> install link on desktop ?
[10:16] <sacha_> yeah when you are in kubuntu
[10:16] <gnub_daemon> it runs a little slow off the cd...but it should be faster after you install
[10:16] <cocoail> can u install it from windows
[10:16] <cocoail> i got another question
[10:16] <sacha_> yeah but you can install it from kubuntu too
[10:17] <Dr_willis> WUBI can do that cocoail  - but i dont advise using wubi.
[10:17] <payam> how can you install a tar.biz file?
[10:17] <cocoail> im doing beta from my internets ftp server (which gives me free downloads)
[10:17] <sacha_> you install it from windows, it defeats the purpose of using live cd to preview it before you install though
[10:17] <payam> tar.gz
[10:17] <cocoail> if i update it after i install the beta
[10:17] <cocoail> will it be less of a download to update to RC
[10:18] <cocoail> if u get me
[10:18] <sacha_> payam: tar xvf filename.tar.gz && cd filename && ./configure && make && make install
[10:18] <Dr_willis> cocoail,  depends on the # of updates in the next few days..
[10:18] <cocoail> i think ill just install the beta and update it once its installed
[10:18] <sacha_> cocoail: you can just install the rc right now
[10:18] <Dr_willis> There maybe 200+mb of updates tomorrow - we cant tell.
[10:18] <cocoail> but i can free downloads
[10:18] <cocoail> from my internets ftp
[10:19] <sacha_> your ISP cocoail?
[10:19] <sacha_> iinet?
[10:19] <cocoail> yes
[10:19] <sacha_> iinet should have mirrored rc by now
[10:19] <cocoail> and it only has beta
[10:19] <cocoail> can u find me a link coz i cant see one anywhere
[10:19] <sacha_> ok ill find one on ubuntu.com..
[10:20] <cocoail> no
[10:20] <cocoail> yeah one with iinet
[10:21] <sacha_> do you have the link to the beta one?
[10:21] <payam> sacha_ : what do you mean with CD?
[10:21] <cocoail> http://ftp.iinet.net.au/linux/ubuntu-cd-images/kubuntu/
[10:22] <sacha_> payam: huh, what part?
[10:22] <payam> sacha_: you said <sacha_> payam: tar xvf filename.tar.gz && cd filename && ./configure && make && make install
[10:23] <ScorpKing> !hdaintel
[10:23] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:23] <sacha_> cd means change directory.. its a command
[10:23] <sacha_> when you run tar xvf, it extracts to a directory named whatever the file was
[10:24] <cocoail> can you find it
[10:24] <payam> my files name is install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[10:25] <payam> Should i write it on terminal???
[10:25] <sacha_> cocoail: do you have to use that directory?
[10:26] <Dr_willis> payam,  you dont need to use that file to isntall flash under ubuntu
[10:26] <Dr_willis> !flash
[10:26] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:26] <Dr_willis> In fact you  its proberly best you DONT use that  intall_flash file to install flash
[10:27] <sacha_> cocoail: there's other ones like: http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/
[10:27] <cocoail> what do u mean
[10:28] <sacha_> they have another one without ftp. but i forgot it
[10:28] <sacha_> anyway cocoail, you know that all updates to kubuntu are free downloads for you too right?
[10:28] <cocoail> are they
[10:28] <cocoail> how
[10:28] <sacha_> yeah
[10:29] <cocoail> goes through iinets servers ?
[10:29] <sacha_> just makes sure your sources.list uses iinet server
[10:29] <sacha_> and then all automatic updates use that
[10:29] <cocoail> fuck yeah
[10:29] <sacha_> all updates are contained here for every version: http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/dists/
[10:29] <cocoail> even the downloading of software
[10:29] <jussi01> !ohmy | cocoail
[10:29] <ubotu> cocoail: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:29] <sacha_> yes
[10:29] <cocoail> but i dont have to go to the ftp site
[10:29] <sacha_> thats right
[10:29] <cocoail> it will do it for my on kubunut hey
[10:29] <SniperBeamer> I just found out that kubuntu hardy doesn't use pulseaudio by default, is there a problem related to kde?
[10:29] <cocoail> awsome
[10:30] <sacha_> yep
[10:30] <cocoail> well im going to install
[10:30] <cocoail> and can you teach me
[10:30] <kaminix> How do I make ubuntu do ifconfig wlan0 up automatically on startup?
[10:30] <cocoail> how to change the source to iinet
[10:30] <sacha_> just make sure you choose iinet server for updates (might be default anyway)
[10:30] <cocoail> thanks for all your help
[10:30] <sacha_> it's in options in adept_manager
[10:30] <cocoail> cheers man
[10:30] <cocoail> bbl installing kubuntu
[10:30] <cocoail> arrr
[10:30] <cocoail> cool cool
[10:30] <sacha_> or /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:30] <cocoail> cya soon
[10:30] <sacha_> cya
[10:31] <payam> sacha_: help me with this
[10:31] <payam> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[10:31] <payam> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[10:32] <payam> what do it mean?
[10:32] <sacha_> is this installing a plugin?
[10:32] <payam> yes
[10:32] <payam> Adobe flash player
[10:32] <sacha_> you use konqueror browser?
[10:32] <payam> no mozilla
[10:32] <payam> firefox
[10:32] <sacha_> oh, well wherever your mozilla plugins are stored
[10:33] <sacha_> there's actually a few places that it looks
[10:33] <payam> what should i wrote there now?
[10:33] <sacha_> does /usr/lib/mozilla exist for you?
[10:36] <payam> ARNING: /usr/lib/mozilla exist for you? is not a directory.
[10:39] <sacha_> lol
[10:39] <sacha_> without the existing part
[10:41] <payam> never mind! i knew how i do now i just opend a new websied and  clicked on "installa the misse d plugin "in firefox
[10:41] <sacha_> lol
[10:42] <payam> sacha_: I know it was really Lol
[10:52] <kaminix> I have a problem. By adding commandline stuff in /etc/rc.local I've made my OS start my network interface automatically; however, KNetworkManager (a OpenSUSE app, I know) won't recognize the interface, Konqueror won't connect to the Internet and Kopete won't connect to the Internet. On a sidenot, Firefox also starts in offline mode.
[10:53] <jussio1> kaminix: please dont ask the same question simultaneously in 2 channels.
[10:56] <dkZ> hi
[10:56] <dkZ> kubuntu 8.04 is stable?
[10:56] <jussi01> no. not yet. it is eleased next week
[10:56] <dkZ> ok, thx
[10:56] <kaminix> jussio1: Then which one should I ask it in?
[10:57] <jussio1> kaminix: whichever you feel is more appropriate, however, its considered quite rude to ask in both simultaneously.
[10:58] <Dr_willis> from the termnal  can you jsut PING some ip's?
[10:58] <sacha_> yeah ive had this happen before. if knetworkmanager things you arent connected, everything will be in offline mode
[10:59] <sacha_> this was a problem when knetworkmanager was bugged and didnt work. there was a workaround to force online mode
[10:59] <ScorpKing> i have a multimedia keyboard and the <F1-12> keys don't work. dmesg shows "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known." how do i get it working?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> its not one of those odd keyboards that defalt to the F keys being multi-media functions  is it?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> I got a logitech that F1 for example defaults to launch browser,  UNLESS you first hit this mode button.
[11:04] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: it has special keys on them as well which doesn't work either. i just want the Fx keys to work
[11:05] <Dr_willis> could be theres some 'mode/change/toggle' to select F keys or Special keys thats got it confused
[11:05] <Dr_willis> i wonder what keycode F1is normally
[11:07] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: not that i can see. if i can get the keycode for F1 i can just - setkeycodes e059 <keycode> and it should work
[11:08] <Dr_willis> sounds like a plan. You might want to check that keyboard out under other  linux live cd/disrtos see if they also have issues.
[11:09] <ScorpKing> i'm compiling hdaintel drivers but get "checking for libasound headers version >= 1.0.15... not present." and have libasound2-dev installed. what am i missing?
[11:09] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: i'll have a look online later. thanks :)
[11:13] <wesley> is there a way to deframent you ntfs externalharddrive in kubuntu
[11:13] <Dr_willis> there are some ntfs tools for linux. But i would suggest letting windows defrag the thing
[11:14] <wesley> i want trow windows off it its sucks
[11:14] <wesley> bought a notebook with vista basic lol and i already removed it got now a other version
[11:15] <sacha_> that sucks.. cause you just paid $60 for vista basic
[11:16] <zeke> $60's cheap for vista
[11:16] <zeke> a steal as it were
[11:17] <sacha_> it's vista basic and that's a rip off
[11:17] <zeke> as far as OS capabilities go...yes
[11:18] <zeke> but for what you would pay for it retail...it's a steal
[11:18] <sacha_> i got 3 vista ultimate keys for free for beta testing it.. they are giving it away
[11:20] <zeke> I paid for two of them and upgraded immediately to XP
[11:20] <wesley> uh let i say it so haved me 3 times blue screen and @ the end didnt booted anymore
[11:22] <zeke> holy mackerel...television has really gone downhill in the past 10 year
[11:23] <kaminix> Is there any equivalence to Gentoo's net-setup in Kubuntu? Some tool to configure all network things easily?
[11:24] <dthacker> kaminix: System Settings?
[11:24] <sacha_> knetworkmanager?
[11:24] <dthacker> Then Network and Connectivity
[11:24] <kaminix> dthacker: It doesn't work when I try it. sacha_: Knetworkmanager won't even notice my network interface wlan0 since I switched the driver.
[11:25] <sacha_> iwconfig ?
[11:25] <dthacker> kaminix: What are you trying to accomplish?
[11:26] <sacha_> are you sure it's right driver?
[11:27] <rdw> hi, how to recreate /etc/fstab? i added a hard drive and now i want it to automatically recognize all partitions like the installer does
[11:27] <kaminix> dthacker: sacha_: Yes, the driver is right since I'm on here and that's working. ^^ As I said earlier though, some applications won't acknowledge my network interface working... ehm... like KNetworkManager won't even display it, Kopete's MSN services refuse to go online (simmilar to if you disconnect the net, try to go online on MSN and then reconnect again it won't work), Konqueror won't let me surf, and Firefox starts in offline
[11:27] <kaminix> mode.
[11:27] <ScorpKing> how do i upgrade alsactl version 1.0.14 to alsactl version 1.0.15?
[11:28] <kaminix> It's very difficult to summarize everything on IRC :p
[11:29] <dthacker> kaminix: what I understand is that you have switched drivers and now the OS does not see your network card? Correct?
[11:30] <dthacker> ScorpKing: use adept and see if the package has been updated in the repositories
[11:30] <kaminix> dthacker: Sort of, some applications use it just fine, but the OS itself doesn't seem to want anything to do with it. Yes.
[11:31] <ScorpKing> dthacker: nope nothing
[11:32] <ScorpKing> dthacker: i found this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579548&page=2 but still waiting for the page to load. will get back if i have problems
[11:33] <kaminix> dthacker: I somehow need to tell the system which network interface to use by default. If I don't forcibly ifconfig wlan0 up my wlan0 interface, it won't come up at all.
[11:35] <dthacker> ScorpKing: ok, good luck
[11:36] <dthacker> kaminix: If you want the wireless interface to start by default, and KDE/KDE utilities are not working for you, perhaps you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:36] <kaminix> dthacker: Any ideas?
[11:36] <kaminix> Hmm...
[11:37] <kaminix> I tried that, but I didn't understand the syntax. Also, eth0 is not in there but start automatically anyway?
[11:38] <dthacker> kaminix: please pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:38] <dthacker> !pastebin
[11:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:39] <dthacker> and then give me the link.
[11:39] <kaminix> dthacker: Okay, it's only default now though.
[11:40]  * dthacker afk for 2 mins to grab laptop.....
[11:40] <kaminix> dthacker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63813/
[11:42]  * dthacker is back and reading.....
[11:42] <kaminix> wb :)
[11:44] <dthacker> kaminix: could you also please post ifconfig as of now for this machine?
[11:45] <ScorpKing> in what package is the kernel source?
[11:45] <kaminix> dthacker: Yes, just a second.
[11:46] <kaminix> dthacker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63814/
[11:47] <dthacker> kaminix: no hardwired connection on this machine?
[11:48] <kaminix> dthacker: Actually, it used to list eth0, though it's not in use. Don't know why it's not listed now.
[11:48] <jim> hey guys i gotta *.avi i wanna put on a blank cd ! whats the best program to use to do this
[11:48] <dthacker> jim: K3B
[11:48] <Dr_willis> jim,  you mean archive it as a data file? or convert to a video cd/dvd?
[11:49] <jim> its a avi file and i just wanna burn it so i can watch it on my dvd player
[11:49] <Dr_willis> jim,  thats a bit more complex.
[11:49] <jim> i was hoping it would be easy
[11:49] <Dr_willis> The tool 'devede' can do that rather easially
[11:49] <jim> drag and drop kind of easy !
[11:49] <dthacker> kaminix: my wireless does not show up as wlan0 in ifconfig.
[11:49] <dthacker> I have eth0 and eth1
[11:49] <Dr_willis> dvd video format and the menus are a bit complex. and can take a bit of time/cpu to do so.
[11:49] <jim> so search for devede
[11:50] <ScorpKing> dthacker: try iwconfig
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !info devede
[11:50] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[11:50] <jim> nah its not a dvd
[11:50] <Dr_willis> Theres other tools that can do it. Thye are all basicially front end to the various conversion tools.
[11:50] <dthacker> ScorpKing: eth1 as well
[11:50] <jim> i just wanna put a *.avi movie on a blank cdr
[11:50] <Dr_willis> Making it onto a CD..not sure if thats even possivle.
[11:50] <kaminix> dthacker: Do you use your wireless?
[11:51] <dthacker> yes, but the AP is down ATM
[11:51] <Dr_willis> jim,  you are sort of missing a point here.. :) either the dvd player can play avi files.. or it cant..   if it can only play dvd video. Youmust convert it to dvd vidoe
[11:51] <Dr_willis> IF you have a newer player that can play avi/divx that makes things MUCH easier
[11:51] <kaminix> dthacker: So it's normal eth doesn't show up?
[11:51] <jim> my dvd player can play avi
[11:52] <Dr_willis> jim,  then fire up k3b and make a data cd..
[11:52] <Dr_willis> that just saves you about an hr+ of time
[11:52] <jim> ahh data disc will work will it
[11:52] <jim> :/
[11:52] <dthacker> kaminix: I don't know.  I think part of your issue is that you have now eth0 and eth1
[11:53] <Dr_willis> jim,  its YOUR player. :) i dont know.
[11:53] <kaminix> dthacker: I don't have eth0 or eth1? :s I usually have an eth0 listed, but right now it's only lo and wlan0
[11:53] <jim> all dvd players can play avi
[11:53] <Dr_willis> jim,  ive seen newer players that even have usb/sd slots.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> jim,  Huh? that is not true.. not ALL dvd players can play avi.
[11:54] <jim> yeh i got 1 of those
[11:54] <jim> but the dvd player broke
[11:54] <jim> it was a cheap 1 from aldis
[11:54] <Dr_willis> In fact i imagine i can find some avi files that those cant play. Its all about the 'codec' of the video file.
[11:54]  * dthacker ponders.....
[11:54] <ScorpKing> dthacker: it will be eth1 then.
[11:54] <jim> this is burning fast
[11:54]  * ScorpKing has bad lag..
[11:54] <Dr_willis> many of the playes now can play the divx codec videos.
[11:55] <dthacker> ScorpKing: what will be eth1?
[11:55] <ScorpKing> dthacker: wireless
[11:56] <dthacker> kaminix: let's try this:  in /etc/network interfaces add these two lines.
[11:56] <dthacker> kaminix: at the bottom of the file
[11:56] <dthacker> first line: auth eth1
[11:56] <ScorpKing> dthacker: you can change it to wlan0 in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[11:56] <kaminix> dthacker: But I don't have eth1? :s
[11:57] <dthacker> ScorpKing: what is the advantage to changing it?
[11:57] <kaminix> Don't you mean wlan0 dthacker?
[11:57] <ScorpKing> ah kaminix :) run iwconfig to see what card is the wireless
[11:57] <ScorpKing> dthacker: none ;)
[11:57] <kaminix> ScorpKing: wlan0 :)
[11:57] <dthacker> ScorpKing: then should he use auto wlan0
[11:57] <dthacker> ?
[11:57]  * ScorpKing goes back to compiling intelhda drivers..
[11:58] <ScorpKing> dthacker: the one that is wireless. it doesn't matter
[11:58] <ScorpKing> look at man interfaces for details ;)
[11:59]  * dthacker reads
[12:00] <kaminix> dthacker: The /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules say:
[12:00] <kaminix> # PCI device 0x1814:0x0201 (rt2500pci)
[12:00] <kaminix> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:0d:f0:1d:31:b1", ATTRS{type}=="1", NAME="wlan0"
[12:00] <dthacker> ScorpKing: are ethx and ethy considered physical interfaces?  Are wlanx and wlany considered physical or virtual interfaces
[12:01] <kaminix> rt2500pci is the old driver, should I somehow alter that or something?
[12:02] <dthacker> kaminix: we're getting pretty deep in the goo here.  My goal right now is to get the proper autostart into /etc/network/interfaces.
[12:03] <kaminix> Sounds like a good start, though it wasn't neccesery with the old driver, why should it be with the new one?
[12:04] <dthacker> kaminix: I could be wrong, but I think no entry in interfaces=no start.  Can someone confirm or deny my statement?
[12:05]  * dthacker looks around the room
[12:06] <kaminix> That sounds reasonably, but shouldn't I have some kind of entry of my old one left if that was the case? Isn't this some hotplug issue?
[12:06] <jim> errrrrrrrr your right its taking aaaaaaaaages to burn a cd
[12:08] <kaminix> Though it can't hurt to have I suppose, might solve it.
[12:09] <dthacker> kaminix: hotplug?  Is it a USB wireless device?
[12:09] <kaminix> dthacker: Don't know, but well, udev then. Some of the services which activates devices.
[12:10] <dthacker> kaminix: is the wireless device built in, or plugged and unplugged?
[12:10] <kaminix> Built-in
[12:11] <dthacker> ok.  let me read a few more mins and other people are welcome to help....
[12:14]  * dthacker pokes ScorpKing
[12:16] <dthacker> ScorpKing: I don't see any examples in the interfaces example file that start devices this way "auto wlan0"  Is it necessary to map "wlan0" to "eth1" and how do I accomplish that?
[12:17] <kaminix> Why would you want to map wlan0 to eth1? :s
[12:19] <dthacker> kaminix: I want to autostart the wireless device.  It's currenly only showing as wlan0, but I don't see any examples in the docs that say "auto wlan0" so I'm wondering if it needs to get mapped.
[12:19] <payam> I need a woman herer
[12:19] <dthacker> !ot | payam
[12:19] <ubotu> payam: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:20] <kaminix> dthacker: wlan0 only comes up because I 'ifconfig wlan0 up'-ed it. :s
[12:20] <dthacker> kaminix: try this
[12:20] <dthacker> first line : auto wlan0
[12:21] <dthacker> second line: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:21] <dthacker> in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:21] <dthacker> then do a network restart
[12:25] <harmental> guys...how can i create a video from a bunch of jpeg or eps files???
[12:25] <ScorpKing> dthacker: sorry, i was a bit busy. reading posts now..
[12:26] <dthacker> ScorpKing: np.:)
[12:26] <dthacker> harmental:  jpgs = still photos?
[12:28] <ScorpKing> dthacker: no entry in interfaces=no start is correct. set wlan0 up the same as eth0. it's still a network device. looks like you have the rest right
[12:29] <dthacker> \o
[12:29] <dthacker> \o?
[12:29] <dthacker> hehe
[12:29] <harmental> dthacker: yeap
[12:29] <ScorpKing> haha. i have to reboot. brb
[12:30] <dthacker> harmental: and you want to burn these to DVD, put it in your standalone DVD player and watch it on your TV?
[12:32] <harmental> dthacker: much more simpler than that....
[12:32] <harmental> just want all the images to be payed in a sequential order....
[12:32] <kaminix^> dthacker: Sorry... second line? :p
[12:32] <harmental> these are really low-res images...not photos or anything like that...
[12:33]  * ScorpKing is back..
[12:33] <kaminix^> dthacker: For reference: I first saved after the first line, and everything went down. The wlan0 disappeared from ifconfig and eth0 jumped up.
[12:33] <kaminix^> Also, I couldn't get wlan0 online (as in on the net, not just ifconfig up) again.
[12:34] <ScorpKing> dthacker: will you manage? i still have nvidia drivers to install and it's giving problems. i'll be in and out of X all the time
[12:34] <dthacker> ScorpKing: I'm fumbling my way through.
[12:35] <kaminix^> dthacker: Got a friend to post what seems to be the main part of Gentoo/Sabayon's script, might be of help? http://utopiaplayer.pastebin.com/d19337df1
[12:35] <ScorpKing> dthacker: hehe. anything else before i go?
[12:36] <dthacker> ScorpKing: nah,  if he can start a device with "auto wlan(x)" then I think we're ok.
[12:37] <ScorpKing> dthacker: it should be unless there is encryption on the link. have fun. :)
[12:37] <dthacker> kaminix^: second line "iface wlan0 inet dhcp"
[12:37] <ScorpKing> cheers guys
[12:37] <dthacker> cheers
[12:37] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:38] <kaminix^> Any third line dthacker? Might fall out again when I save.
[12:38] <dthacker> harmental: If you want to just play them back on a computer, Gwenview will run them as a slide show.
[12:39] <dthacker> kaminix: no.  I have no idea why it is auto restarting the network.  I have never seen that behavior
[12:39] <harmental> dthacker: yeap...but i want to embed that into a presentation....
[12:39] <harmental> video is the way to go...
[12:40] <dthacker> harmental: ah. ok.  the only video editor I know of is kino.  I have never used it.
[12:40] <kaminix^> dthacker: Nothing bad happened now anyway. I'll reboot and see what happends I suppose? :)
[12:40] <kaminix^> KNetworkManager switched icon, but apart from that nothing.
[12:40] <harmental> dthacker: thx...ill check on that
[12:41] <dthacker> kaminix^: you could just do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:43] <ere4si> !info avidemux
[12:43] <ubotu> avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[12:45] <kaminix> dthacker: It works! Only thing not working is KNetworkManager, is there anyway to fix that too?
[12:46] <dthacker> kaminix: that's out of my skills.  I'd suggest posting to the forumns or a question on launchpad
[12:46] <dthacker> :)
[12:47] <kaminix> Thanks for everything dthacker! :D
[12:47] <dthacker> np!  I learned some things too :)
[12:48] <GeekFarm> hey, can anyone help out a newbie?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Hmm?
[12:55] <jim> Hey guys its me AGAIN ! i have a slight issue with the linux/windows dual boot  ! ok here is the issue, i firstly installed Kubuntu then i partitioned the hdd with Gparted and then installed windows, Now windows didnt install itself on C: it installed itself on F: is there any way of changing F: to C:   ?
[12:58] <jim> its ok i found it
[13:03]  * dthacker goes for a walk bbl
[13:10] <NorD> hi who, know , how add 800x600@100Ghz only in xorg ?
[13:12] <oldmanemu> NorD: do you mean refresh rate, 100hz ?
[13:13] <NorD> yes
[13:13] <NorD> only 100ghz @ 800x600
[13:14] <oldmanemu> NorD: you can do it in System Settings >> Monitor and Display
[13:16] <oldmanemu> NorD: are you sure you mean 100ghz or 100hz ?
[13:16] <oldmanemu> NorD: you can't set a refresh rate at 100 "ghz" !
[13:17] <NorD> why  ?
[13:17] <NorD> Modeline "800x600_100.00"  68.18  800 848 936 1072  600 601 604 636  -HSync +Vsync
[13:17] <NorD> i cant use it ?
[13:17] <NorD> nord@godz0ne:~$ gtf 800 600 100
[13:17] <llutz> NorD: what you mean is "Hz" not "GHz"
[13:17] <NorD> yes
[13:17] <NorD> sorry
[13:17] <NorD> xD
[13:48] <GeekFarm> Anyone know if it is possible to set all files to read-write or if this is okay to do?
[13:49] <gnoob> GeekFarm, that would be something root could do.
[13:49] <GeekFarm> I'm trying to use apt-get to reinstall xserver and it's telling me dpkg is read only
[13:49] <gnoob> I am not sure why you would want a user to do that.
[13:49] <GeekFarm> I had a complete failure while updating kubuntu
[13:49] <GeekFarm> it's down to command line and I'm a newbine ;)
[13:50] <gnoob> GeekFarm, does your terminal line end it a $ or a #?
[13:50] <GeekFarm> #
[13:50] <GeekFarm> whats the significance of that?
[13:50] <gnoob> $ is a normal user # is the root account.
[13:51] <gnoob> I have not really use Ubuntu but don't you have to use the sudo command? Did you try that?
[13:51] <GeekFarm> yeah
[13:51] <gnoob> and it still says it is read only, interesting.
[13:52] <GeekFarm> I ended uup using $path usr/bin/sudo $path /usr/bin/apt-get install xserver-xorg
[13:52] <GeekFarm> and it tells me I dont have write permission
[13:53] <GeekFarm> does that make sense as a command line?
[13:53] <GeekFarm> It always tells me the path doesnt include the commands if I dont put $path /usr/bin/ in front of each thing
[13:54] <gnoob> GeekFarm, cant you just do $sudo apt-get instal xserver-org?
[13:54] <gnoob> i mean xserver-xorg
[13:54] <gnoob> ah
[13:55] <GeekFarm> hm let me try ;)
[13:56] <GeekFarm> "the command could not be located because '/usr/bin/' is not included in the PATH"
[13:56] <malgon> bonjour
[13:57] <gnoob> GeekFarm, try $ /usr/bin/sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[13:57] <malgon> j'ai un problème
[13:57] <malgon> je poseeède 2 disuqes durs et j'ai installé kubuntu sur un
[13:57] <Moo> Hi, could someone help? My mouse stopped working again, is there any other way to get it work than rebooting the whole computer?
[13:58] <llutz> !fr | malgon
[13:58] <ubotu> malgon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:58] <gnoob> If that does not work, I am not sure what the issue is.  I still consider myself a noob and I have never used kubuntu. I just popped it to see what was happening.  I have been thinking of trying it.
[13:58] <GeekFarm> gnoob - "bash: $ command not found"
[13:59] <llutz> GeekFarm: export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[13:59] <gnoob> GeekFarm, where is the sudo command located?
[13:59] <GeekFarm> in /usr/bin
[13:59] <gnoob> ah, look like llutz knows what he is doing.
[14:01] <GeekFarm> ok I got that path I think, it gave no error response
[14:01] <GeekFarm> thanks llutz
[14:02] <llutz> GeekFarm: have you tried to upgrade to hardy?
[14:02] <GeekFarm> actually it still doesnt have the correct path
[14:02] <GeekFarm> no, I'm not sure what that is... I was using kubuntu but the updater crashed and now I'm down to command line...
[14:02] <GeekFarm> just being trying to resurrect the system somehow
[14:03] <neville_> Phoenix Down GeekFarm? :P
[14:03] <llutz> GeekFarm:try  "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[14:03] <GeekFarm> yeah quite the spectacular failure I must say
[14:05] <GeekFarm> llutz: it gives me a string of directories (looks like a path listing) with : no such file or directory at the end
[14:07] <malgon> hello
[14:07] <malgon> i've a problem
[14:07] <GeekFarm> join the club malgon :p
[14:08] <malgon> excuse but i'm french and i seek my words :)
[14:08] <llutz> !fr | malgon
[14:08] <ubotu> malgon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:09] <malgon> ok thank you
[14:16] <ahmed> hi when i open my pc it goes in something like scan disk in windows and it says wrong checksum for a long file name and it doesnt repair this how i solve this
[14:21] <blackmail> hello people
[14:22] <blackmail> i just DLed alsa1.0.16 but i don't know what to do with the three files i found in ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/
[14:23] <blackmail> oh well, i guess i'm in no hurry
[14:23] <blackmail> see ya :)
[14:24] <ahmed> hi when i open my pc it goes in something like scan disk in windows and it says wrong checksum for a long file name and it doesnt repair this how i solve this
[14:36] <tdn> Why is Launchpad so slow?
[14:38] <ysk> i have
[14:39] <ysk> kubuyntu
[14:39] <ysk> i want to swtch to ubuntu
[14:39] <harolddong> shoot that fool
[14:40] <ysk> lol
[14:40] <PriceChild> !guidelines > harolddong
[14:40] <harolddong> I meant shoot him with love
[14:40] <ysk> oh
[14:40] <ysk> plz can u guide me
[14:40] <ysk> i am using linux first time
[14:40] <ysk> how to install softwares
[14:41] <ysk> i got a notification that there is a new version of kopex
[14:41] <ysk> now how would i install it?
[14:41] <harolddong> do you you know how to use adept manager?
[14:41] <jhutchins> !enter | ysk
[14:41] <ubotu> ysk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:41] <PriceChild> ysk:http://kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html is useful
[14:41] <ysk> ok thanks
[14:42] <PriceChild> ysk: that guide will help you install software. It is also available on the installed os somewhere
[14:42] <jhutchins> ysk: You will find better support for switching to ubuntu in #ubuntu.
[14:42] <jhutchins> ysk: Basically you want to install ubuntu-desktop.
[14:42] <matt_> even after a complete reinstall, after sudo bashing the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site, they install correctly, i'll startup kdm again, it works fine. Problem=I have to sudo bash them every boot. The last part of the installer changes your xorg.conf, so that is ok. What could be causing this? Everytime i boot up, it goes to a cli.
[14:43] <ysk> yes
[14:43] <PriceChild> matt_: you haven't installed the drivers properly... we reccomend using the drivers included in ubuntu, in the nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new packages
[14:44] <matt_> PriceChild: hey...i've done this many times on this and other systems...i'm just wondering what is happening this time. used to work 100%. the drivers work much better than your nvidia=glx
[14:44] <Stroganoff> matt_ alternatively you could use the "Envy" (latest) graphics driver installer
[14:45] <crazy_bus> am I allowed to ask a wget question here since it's used in kubuntu.  Or should I go elsewhere?
[14:45] <matt_> Stroganoff: i didn't think of that, why didn't i think of that, i've talked a few times with the guy that wrote it, why didn't i think of that.
[14:45] <PriceChild> !envy | Stroganoff
[14:45] <ubotu> Stroganoff: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[14:46] <matt_> Stroganoff: i'll give it a try...mr. beef stroganoff
[14:46] <Stroganoff> matt_: does kdm startup? (should prompt "starting kdm" at tty1
[14:47] <matt_> Stroganoff: eehh....yes and no. it tries, i believe...
[14:47] <matt_> Stroganoff: but..gotta go, i'll give envy a try when i get back..thanks
[14:47] <harmental> hey guys..I have this problem...when i connect a projector to my laptop the everything prior to the login screen looks great...but then the projector goes black...so far i have succeeded in tweaking the monitor settings to make it work...
[14:48] <harmental> any ideas?
[14:51] <harolddong> how do I get my resolution set right when I install the nvidia driver?
[14:51] <Stroganoff> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:52] <harolddong> I can do that when I logged in and it will just apply changes after I restart?
[14:55] <Stroganoff> the changes are applied after restarting the X server (graphical backend) by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[14:55] <Stroganoff> harolddong
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:00] <DreadKnight> any MOTU's around?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> MOTU?
[15:00] <DreadKnight> master of the universe..
[15:01] <BluesKaj> gawd ...look in gamers room :)
[15:01] <Stroganoff> http://www.heman.altervista.org/He-man.jpg
[15:02] <DreadKnight> lol
[15:02] <DreadKnight> motu's take care of packaging and the ubuntu repository...
[15:02] <DreadKnight> :-)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> like this ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/
[15:03] <DreadKnight> that's more like it :-)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> :) ..I have an aversion to gamers coming in with questions i don't understand
[15:04] <DreadKnight> hehe
[15:05] <jonathan__> BluesKaj: what was the questin
[15:05] <BluesKaj> heh, my cupsys is broken and it seems to be very difficult to fix
[15:05] <jonathan__> BluesKaj: lol im a gamer but at least i know how to fix things and i ask if i dont lol
[15:05] <jonathan__> brb
[15:05] <BluesKaj> jonathan__,  DreadKnight asked : any MOTU's around?
[15:06] <DreadKnight> xD
[15:06] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: thats classic lol i do have a question that u probably wont be able to answer lol
[15:06] <BluesKaj> aha , changed yer nick eh eagles0513875 :) ?
[15:07] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: do u know where i can find a list of all necessary pkgs which allow kde to fuction
[15:07] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-desktop
[15:07] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ya lol need to get back to fixing bugs but right now i wanna start a lil project of my own lol
[15:07] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i know but since im wanting to use it in a cluster environment i would like to change the default pkgs and remove alot of the extra stuff thats installed
[15:08] <eagles0513875> kaminix: hey u manage not to bork ur setup
[15:09] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, , I'm not sure what the default pkges are with kde
[15:10] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Hehe, yeah. :) Tried to fix the KNetworkManager thingie, but I backed up the settings :)
[15:10] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: Jucato linked me to a pkg of his for instance kbluetooth wouldnt be needed in a cluster amarok neither i just wanna be able to have a kde desktop geared spcifically for cluster environments
[15:10] <BluesKaj> I always thought of kde as a desktop ayer running on top of compatible pkges
[15:11] <BluesKaj> layer
[15:11] <eagles0513875> kaminix: if there is a bug out there why not setup ur machine and work on bug fixes
[15:11] <eagles0513875> !bugs | kaminix
[15:11] <ubotu> kaminix: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[15:11] <eagles0513875> kaminix: thats not what i wantd hold on
[15:12] <kaminix> eagles0513875: I'm no programmer and not very good with packaging and stuff, NO idea how to fix bugs.
[15:12] <eagles0513875> kaminix: u have to start somewhere i started with to rather easy bugs to fix one fix was released and the other wishlisted
[15:13] <eagles0513875> its quite satisfying knowing that you played a part in enhancing and fixing the best linux distro out there
[15:13] <kaminix> Right now I don't really have the time either. ^^ School term end, university in August. Have started with some C++ in order to be able to help with KDE in the future though. ^^
[15:13] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i think the only way to figure that out would be to either get a copy fo the source code of kde or start uninstalling pkgs that i dont need in a hope i dont bork anything
[15:13] <eagles0513875> kaminix: thats a start
[15:14] <eagles0513875> kaminix: im hoping to learn c++ this summer
[15:14] <sweettooth> hello there, i would like to find out the make and the chipset of my wireless card, is there any command to find that?
[15:14] <eagles0513875> sweettooth: you wanna find out what chipset and pci devices r in ur machine
[15:14] <eagles0513875> *are in your
[15:14] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, uninstalling default pkges will take the whole desktop out in most cases
[15:14] <kaminix> What happened with the Device Database thingie? They removed that in new Ubuntu? Not comming until 8.04 is released?
[15:14] <stdin> sweettooth: "lspci"
[15:15] <eagles0513875> kaminix: it is but its under system the hardware drivers manager
[15:15] <ahmet_> you speak turkish_?
[15:15] <stdin> !tr
[15:15] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[15:15] <sweettooth> eagle0513875, i want to find out the details of my wireless card in the laptop
[15:15] <kaminix> eagles0513875: The what?
[15:15] <eagles0513875> sweettooth: what stdin said up top lspci
[15:16] <IppatsuMan> The core kde package should be kde-core, which depends on kdebase and kdelibs
[15:16] <eagles0513875> kaminix: go to system and click on hardware drivers manager thats the new name for the restricted drivers manager is that what ur looking for or not
[15:16] <sweettooth> yes, i tried that now, thank you for both your help
[15:16] <eagles0513875> sweettooth: no prob
[15:16] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Nope, looking for the hardware feedback program they had in the previous two or three releases.
[15:17] <eagles0513875> IppatsuMan: post a bug report and then head into the #kubuntu-devel channel and post the link to the bug and ask them in there
[15:17] <eagles0513875> kaminix: its called kinfocenter under system
[15:18] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Should I give feedback on my RT2500-card even now?
[15:18] <eagles0513875> kaminix: i would file a wishlist bug so that it could start being worked on for next bug
[15:18] <eagles0513875> *release
[15:19] <kaminix> Worked in Gutsy though =/
[15:19] <eagles0513875> kaminix: sry if im not making any sense i just woke up form a long 2 hr nap which i utterly needed
[15:19] <ahmet_> !tr
[15:19] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[15:19] <ahmet_> tr
[15:19] <eagles0513875> kaminix: mention that in the bug that way they can take a look at the change log and see what changes have been made to it
[15:20] <kex> hi there, i have a problem with my wicd manager. it creates zombies like sh <defuncty> any ideas why this happens?
[15:20] <SuperSon> hi folks, i'm using the 8.04 beta and am having issues running screenlets.  the screenlets-manager won't load. any help?
[15:21] <eagles0513875> SuperSon: try in #ubuntu+1
[15:23] <SuperSon> is screenlets only for ubuntu and not kubuntu? if so, nevermind.
[15:24] <eagles0513875> !version
[15:24] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:24] <DreadKnight> SuperSonic: well, screenlets for gnome, superkaramba widgets for kde3 and plasmoids for kde4...
[15:25] <eagles0513875> how do i check what kernel version i have
[15:25] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: looking into adept ? :P
[15:25] <sourcemaker_> i try to sync my ipod with amarok and receive following message:  failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted
[15:25] <sourcemaker_> persmission denied... how can i fix this issue?
[15:26] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: lol im guessing ur new to linux
[15:26] <rootsnatch> eagles: uname -a
[15:26] <SuperSonic> thanks Dread. i'm using superk right now - not quite as nice as screenlets, but that answers my question. thanks!
[15:26] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: sudo
[15:26] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: hold up
[15:26] <sourcemaker_> I wan't start amarok with sudo :-)
[15:26] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: join me in #kubuntu-devel
[15:26] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: erm.. more or less xD
[15:26] <DreadKnight> SuperSonic: np :-)
[15:26] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: hold up there is a pkg that ur probably going to need to install let me link u something
[15:27] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: I have to ipod plugin installed and amarok is detecting my device as ipod
[15:27] <DreadKnight> SuperSonic: the thing is that screenlets use python and cairo for rendering which is gnome's/gtk+ way of rendering stuff
[15:27] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:27] <jonathan__> I tried to connect a mtp-media player with amarok and it didn't work.
[15:27] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: there was a bug filed as to a dependency not being installed let me get the bug and link it for ya that way ull have the pkg
[15:27] <jonathan__> i now found the reason through typing "mtp-detect" once as user root and once as I'm just logged in with my standard user-name.
[15:27] <jonathan__> when i'm logged in as a root it works nice, but if I'm trying the same as a normal user the console says that no mtp-device was found...
[15:28] <jonathan__> how can i solve that problem ?? :)
[15:28] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: probably need to change the permissions for the program
[15:28] <jonathan__> hm i would like to allow all programs to detect mtp-devices when i'm not logged in with root
[15:29] <jonathan__> and not even amarok
[15:29] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: this is my fstab: /dev/sde2       /mnt/ipod       vfat    rw,user         0       0
[15:29] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: then u have to change its permissions
[15:29] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: i know what ur doing give me a min here plz
[15:29] <jonathan__> and how do i do this? :)
[15:30] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: there is a dependency ur missing that will probablymake it work there is a bug up there that i fixed but the course of action whether to release this package as a dependency or a suggested pkg got it back seated for now
[15:31] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: and right now im having issues with firefox2 getting me to the bug site hold on
[15:32] <eagles0513875> might have found a bug with firefox2
[15:32] <jonathan__> hm :/
[15:32] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: can you try and get on launchpad for me
[15:33] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: nm launchpad is down
[15:33] <tony_> bonjour
[15:33] <eagles0513875> !fr | tony_
[15:33] <ubotu> tony_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:33] <tony_> quelqu'un parle francais
[15:34] <eagles0513875> tony_: O_o english only channel in here use one of the rooms above
[15:35] <jonathan__> ok i'm there
[15:35] <jonathan__> what nwow?
[15:36] <eagles0513875> search for eagles051387 thats me and try view the bugs that i have either confirmed or fixed there is one bug thats wishlisted and thats the bug that has the dependency
[15:36] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: how are you getting to launchbad and im not able to
[15:37] <jonathan__> dont know...
[15:37] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: interesting
[15:37] <jonathan__> but the sites are loading very slowly
[15:38] <jonathan__> now i cannot acces sites on launchpad too... sorry
[15:38] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: i just pinged the site there is data loss somewhere and its not loading at all for me
[15:38] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: its fine im just really wanna help ya fix it
[15:39] <jonathan__> thank you ;)
[15:39] <jonathan__> so now it had lod
[15:39] <jonathan__> load
[15:39] <jonathan__> ed
[15:39] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: whoops wrong bug :(
[15:40] <jonathan__> but i cannot search for persons only for bugs or projects
[15:40] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: im getting what u want confused with someone elses:(
[15:40] <blackmail> hey guys
[15:40] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: its a simple dependency that your missing
[15:40] <eagles0513875> hello my name is jonathan
[15:40] <blackmail> how do i get to compile the latest alsa version ?
[15:41] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: might be able to get it for ya the site takeing a while to load
[15:41] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: nice
[15:42] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: :) its up
[15:42] <blackmail> how do i get to compile files ? i want to get alsa 1.0.16
[15:43] <blackmail> doesn't anyone know ?
[15:43] <eagles0513875> blackmail: u have the source right
[15:43] <blackmail> i downloaded the files
[15:44] <blackmail> .tar.bz2 files
[15:44] <blackmail> i don't know what to do with them
[15:44] <eagles0513875> first extract them
[15:44] <blackmail> how ? is there a command for that ?
[15:44] <blackmail> i just installed Kubntu yesterday
[15:45] <blackmail> Kubuntu*
[15:45] <blackmail> oh wait i found
[15:46] <blackmail> eagles0513875:
[15:46] <blackmail> i extracted them :)
[15:46] <eagles0513875> blackmail: ok now give me a min and im going to find you a step by step on how to compile from source
[15:47] <blackmail> eagles0513875: cheers
[15:47] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: can u see if u have the kdebase-kio-plugins installed
[15:48] <eagles0513875> blackmail: try this but using your package instead http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Compiling_Programs_from_Source
[15:49] <blackmail> ok thanks
[15:49] <eagles0513875> blackmail: also this might come in handy www.google.com/linux searches all linux pgs
[15:49] <blackmail> i just have one last question
[15:49] <blackmail> eagles0513875: great ^^
[15:49] <blackmail> the question is: i have a ntfs partition with only data on it, how do i access it with Kubuntu ?
[15:49] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | blackmail
[15:49] <ubotu> blackmail: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:50] <blackmail> thanks llutz ^^
[15:57] <julie> !realplayer
[15:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:57] <julie> where is the source for realplayer
[15:58] <Jucato> I don't think there is...
[15:59] <Jucato> (that's why it's not distributed in our repositories)
[15:59] <julie> well how do I play a real media file
[15:59] <blackmail> VLC ?
[15:59] <Jucato> oh you mean package for realplayer?
[16:00] <Jucato> I thought you meant source *code*
[16:00] <Jucato> (that's what "source" usually means in the Free Software world)
[16:00] <julie>  realplayer package
[16:00] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[16:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:00] <Jucato> I think they have that
[16:00] <Jucato> although I can play most .rm's in Kaffeine with the proper codecs installed
[16:01] <julie> right is there anything like automatix anymore what is the latest issue with that?
[16:01] <julie> there was something like easy ubuntu that did the same thing
[16:01] <blackmail> Jucato: the default font in konqueror is a bit small, any way to change that ?
[16:01] <Jucato> julie: both are gone now. try simply installing Kubuntu Restricted Extras
[16:01] <Jucato> blackmail: as a Web Browser or as a File Manager?
[16:02] <blackmail> Jucato: as a web browser
[16:02] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts
[16:02] <Jucato> set them up there
[16:09] <julie> are hdprams all setup up automatically ?
[16:11] <kostas> yes
[16:13] <dedeldedel> hello
[16:14] <dedeldedel> anybody from Rio Brasil?
[16:17] <julie> how do i get flash working in ff?
[16:17] <DreadKnight> julie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:18] <DreadKnight> which is a meta package, cointaing .. um .. flash-nonfree or how it's called
[16:18] <llutz> flashplugin-nonfree
[16:20] <DreadKnight> right :-)
[16:21] <julie> this is why pclinuxos beats kxubuntu hands down
[16:22] <DreadKnight> julie: i really don't see why
[16:22] <llutz> because it has flash built-in?
[16:22] <DreadKnight> lol
[16:22] <llutz> killer-feature1!!11
[16:22] <matt_> !help
[16:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:22] <matt_> !ty
[16:22] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:22] <julie> DreadKnight: because I have been spending the past two hours setting up packages that are out of the box with pclinuxos
[16:23] <DreadKnight> julie: which packages?
[16:23] <matt_> !install
[16:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:23] <julie> DreadKnight: read my previous posts
[16:23] <Jucato> julie: didn't I just tell you to install Kubuntu Restricted Extras earlier?
[16:23] <DreadKnight> julie: then why haven't you stayed on pclinuxos... ? still a linux :P
[16:24] <Jucato> well, to be fair, Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS has different philosophies, even if they might be targetting the same market
[16:24] <DreadKnight> julie: i wasn't on the channel :P
[16:24] <matt_> !programs
[16:24] <julie> it would not install on this old system..
[16:24] <julie> DreadKnight:
[16:24] <Jucato> !msgthebot | matt_
[16:24] <matt_> !msgthebot
[16:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:25] <ubotu> matt_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:25] <DreadKnight> julie: so good that it doesn't even install..
[16:26] <DreadKnight> ubuntu has the best hardware support out of the box from what i've seen
[16:26] <DreadKnight> you can install tons of applications with a single like from konsole
[16:26] <DreadKnight> single line*
[16:27] <Jucato> [22:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats <--- julie: read the first and 3rd links for more information on why this is so in Ubuntu
[16:28] <julie> will ubuntu ever become outr of the boxd
[16:28] <julie> box
[16:28] <n1ck> !ru
[16:28] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:29] <Jucato> proprietary/non-free stuff installed by default? no. it would go against its philosophy (and if it ever did that, you could consider Ubuntu a liar). Easy to install? yes. I just told you how (twice)
[16:29] <Jucato> julie: ^^^^
[16:31] <DreadKnight> it just can't be out of the box for everyone
[16:31] <omps> hi all
[16:31] <DreadKnight> that's why there are online repositories..
[16:36] <julie> I am willing to pay for these software how much would it cost?
[16:36] <julie> flash, java, codec etc
[16:37] <Jucato> julie: "non-free" here doesn't mean you have to pay for them
[16:37] <Jucato> they mean that they are restricted in some sense, like not having their source code available, or not being able to redistribute them freely, or have patents involved
[16:38] <Jucato> julie: and again, I told you (now's the third time), just install Kubuntu Restricted Extras (kubuntu-restricted-extras) to get all of these!
[16:39] <neville_> Maybe a troll?
[16:40] <llutz> s/maybe/sure/
[16:40] <Jucato> maybe.. or just really confused/clueless/new... giving the benefit of the doubt
[16:40] <DreadKnight> julie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras
[16:41] <Jucato> (patience running low though)
[16:41] <DreadKnight> meta package installing all that proprietary crap you listed
[16:41] <neville_> hehe
[16:44] <lovre> how do i unrar everything in subfolders (recursive)?
[16:44] <julie> I know. but what I'm trying to get to is that if there was a ubuntu paid version for maybe very little money like £10 I would be willing to download it and to bypass the manual apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras
[16:44] <jussio1> does anyone know how to open .ace archives?
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> lovre, i've been trying to find that out
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> jussi01, 7zip should be able to andle them
[16:45] <julie> !ce
[16:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:45] <sparr_> [how] can i make apt download multiple files *at the same time*? (note emphasis)
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: I think Mandriva and SuSE offer something like that
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> if not...
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !info unace
[16:45] <ubotu> unace (source: unace): extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-5 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: The problem is that we're not talking just about free in terms of dollars here.
[16:45] <jussio1> Daisuke_Ido: thanks!
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: Some of the packages are not free as in companies are not free to distribute them,
[16:45] <Hamra> !flash
[16:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:45] <neville_> You only have to do it once though julie, and that's it...
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: Only the branded version is "legal" to distribute in the U.S.
[16:46] <julie> how do mandriva mange to do it then
[16:46] <jhutchins> julie: In order to legally distribute some of it, a company has to have a license agreement allowing them to provide the software - and some software companies won't let other companies do that, even for a fee.
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: Some of the software is just linked to the original distributor.
[16:47] <lovre> Daisuke_Ido: i think i have found a way. Try this: "unrar x -r . "
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: So while the commercial versions of other distros may have some of the software, they don't have everything.
[16:47] <lovre> Daisuke_Ido: position yourself in parent folder first
[16:47] <DreadKnight> julie: fire the damn konsole and paste in it: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: As people have told you here though, it's not that hard to get around if you know the right way to handle it.
[16:48] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: I believe she has the answer now, she's discussing the why & how of it.
[16:48] <DreadKnight> xD
[16:48] <jussio1> !ot
[16:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:49] <julie> I thought it was a matter of paying for that part of the software.. so its just that some companies just don't want to sell the software
[16:49] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: To someone coming from the mostly-propietary world of Windows, or the all-propietary world of Apple, it's not immedately clear what the differences are.
[16:49] <julie> right
[16:49] <julie> thats really sad
[16:49] <DreadKnight> :)
[16:49] <julie> i like kxubuntu because of large community
[16:49] <julie> any very tollerant
[16:49] <jhutchins> julie: Exactly.  Throw in a little more complexity because of mixing the reasons together.
[16:49] <neville_> Yeah, but what are you gonna do, apart from sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras :P
[16:49] <jussio1> Hey! can we take the "discussion" to #kubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel open for support please?
[16:50] <julie> i guess we just have to work on alternatives
[16:50] <jhutchins> jussio1: Did you have a support question we missed?
[16:50] <jussio1> jhutchins: thats irrellevant :)
[16:50] <julie> okay I'll go to kubutnu offtopic
[16:51] <kaminix> Why on earth does plasma depend on a strigi lib?
[16:51] <neville_> what the hell is plasma?
[16:51] <kaminix> !language | neville_
[16:51] <ubotu> neville_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:52] <kaminix> :)
[16:52] <DreadKnight> neville_: kde4 new desktop functionality xD
[16:52] <kaminix> Plasma is a part of the KDE 4 desktop.
[16:52] <jussio1> kaminix: thats kinda more a kde4 question, but I have no idea. ( #kubuntu-kde4 for that in future)
[16:52] <kaminix> Apparently it depends on libstrigiqtdbusclient0
[16:52] <neville_> Hell isn't bad language.. but okay >>
[16:53] <kaminix> neville_: I don't really care, personally, but some people may consider it bad language and it should be kept out of the channel. That's what I learned when first comming here.
[16:53] <julie> i can't seem to playback flash files on youtube.. any idea why.. it freezes and ff has to be terminated
[16:54] <jhutchins> We try to set a high standard of civility here.  It can be enlightening to live up to it.
[16:54] <jussio1> !fffc | julie
[16:54] <ubotu> julie: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[16:54] <DreadKnight> firefox freezes a lot for me
[16:54] <neville_> Oh dear.. -__v
[16:54] <DreadKnight> especially when closing tabs containing flash
[16:56] <DreadKnight> klash/gnash for the win!
[16:56] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: Use konqueror.
[16:56] <DreadKnight> jhutchins i can't
[16:57] <DreadKnight> jhutchins dependencies broken and i can't install it T_T
[16:57] <DreadKnight> i'm on hardy
[16:57] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: Opera?
[16:57] <DreadKnight> ff
[16:57] <DreadKnight> open source fanatic...
[16:57] <DreadKnight> opera was the best...
[16:58] <jhutchins> I'll bet I can still find most of the history bugs I reported on Mosaic in the firefox code - patched around, perhaps, but still there.
[16:59] <julie> this is the line I have to add to firefoxrc
[16:59] <julie> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[17:02] <BluesKaj> I had a bad crash yesterday , been trying to repair files but cupsys is in bad shape  "E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing." when i try to sudo apt-get update ... any ideas ?
[17:02] <spiroo> If I download a several torrents in high speed and compiling kde at the same time my computer went very slow. I wondering, does this processes affect the CPU most or what components could it be?
[17:02] <Stroganoff> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get clean
[17:03] <DreadKnight> indeed
[17:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , done that Stroganoff
[17:03] <spiroo> Dreadnight: Did you answer me?
[17:03] <DreadKnight> sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[17:04] <DreadKnight> spiroo: notreally... but compilation and torrents are very resource demanding
[17:04] <eagles0513875> kaminix: what up
[17:04] <DreadKnight> compilling*
[17:05] <Stroganoff> spiroo check the swapfile usage
[17:05] <jacalope> spiroo: you can use 'top' to learn which processes are using the cpu, mem, etc...
[17:05] <spiroo> DreadKnight: Yea I noticed that ;) ust wondering which components that takes most of it. It does not have a to great CPU :P
[17:05] <spiroo> Stroganoff: How do you mean?
[17:05] <DreadKnight> spiroo: ctrl + Esc
[17:05] <julie> dose anhyone else here have problems playing flash movies on youtueb?
[17:06] <spiroo> nspluginviewer takes 40-45% of my CPU? :S What is that?
[17:06] <nonewmsgs> julie: yes i have.
[17:07] <DreadKnight> spiroo: webpages in ktorrent or webpages using flash in konqueror?
[17:07] <DreadKnight> my guess
[17:07] <julie> nonewmsgs: how do we fix it
[17:07] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have the flashplugin-nonfree instaled
[17:07] <julie> this isn't a problem in pclinuxos
[17:07] <julie> eagles0513875: yes
[17:07] <spiroo> DreadKnight: Well I havent konqueror or any webpages in Ktorrent open :S
[17:07] <DreadKnight> spiroo:  xD
[17:07] <eagles0513875> julie: did u restart ur browser after installing the pkg
[17:07] <eagles0513875> *you
[17:08] <julie> eagles0513875: yes
[17:08] <spiroo> It is something else, that takes extreme power from my CPU :D
[17:08] <nonewmsgs> the weird thing is it used to work and a couple weeks ago stopped giving me love like a PO'ed gf
[17:08] <eagles0513875> julie: interesting cuz i havent had that issue
[17:08] <spiroo> Wondering what it could be :S
[17:08] <spiroo> jacalope: What are you meaning with "top"?
[17:08] <eagles0513875> julie: have you tried clearing cookies cache and everything
[17:09] <BluesKaj> non of autoremoves or get cleans work .the error is still the same .. the ' partial' file is still missing from, /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:09] <julie> yes
[17:09] <eagles0513875> julie: you on gutsy or hardy
[17:09] <jacalope> spiroo: in a terminal window, type 'top', or run a kde equiv... system monitor i think it's labelled as...
[17:10] <DreadKnight> BluesKaj: hardy beta?
[17:10] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: the release candidate is out
[17:10] <julie> gutsy
[17:10] <DreadKnight> jacalope: or just press ctrl + ESC :P
[17:10] <jacalope> anyone here use kmail with imap?  I have a problem where kmail gets stuck in synch mode... emails read become unread, etc...
[17:10] <errpast> I need a laptop that works out of box with Ubuntu
[17:10] <eagles0513875> julie: im not if they fixed the bug in gutsy but in hardy its working for me im listening to something on you tube now
[17:10] <BluesKaj> DreadKnight, Gutsy
[17:10] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: my beta should have updated then :P
[17:10] <errpast> I don't want to hack right now
[17:10] <errpast> Any suggestions?
[17:11] <errpast> Any favorites?
[17:11] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:11] <DreadKnight> errpast: buy from Dell with ubuntu preinstalled? xD
[17:11] <julie> so i have to upgrade to hardy
[17:11] <jacalope> DreadKnight: hey wow... who knew?
[17:11] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: well it's upgraded for sure then xD
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dell was selling ubuntu laptops
[17:11] <nonewmsgs> eagles0513875: clearing cache and cookies fixed mine thanks!
[17:11] <eagles0513875> julie: let me find out something for ya really quick
[17:11] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: they still are
[17:11] <spiroo> jacalope: Okay, already has the system monitor open. But Im damn curious about nspluginviewer. Oh yes, remembered that I am using kDE4 :D COuld it be something in Terminal, ktorrent, amarok that uses nspluginviewer?
[17:11] <DreadKnight> jacalope: um... everybody else? xD
[17:12] <eagles0513875> julie: you running gutsy on a test machine
[17:12] <errpast> Ya, I see a m1330 there for about $1000
[17:12] <julie> no eagles0513875 what do you mean test machine
[17:13] <jacalope> DreadKnight: yeah, yeah... i'm an old guy.... i like CLI
[17:13] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have data on the machine ur on now
[17:13] <julie> julie: yes personal data
[17:13] <eagles0513875> julie: i would recommend backing it all up i was having issues trying to figure out how to get the upgrade thing to work
[17:14] <julie> so what do you suggest to upgrade to hardy..
[17:14] <eagles0513875> julie: you can try it and at least that way if something gets borked you have ur data backedup
[17:14] <julie> also my data is on a diffrerent partition
[17:14]  * DreadKnight goes to get very very drunk.
[17:14] <julie> so to upgrade to hardy I have to change all the gutsy names to hardy in the sources.list
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: then in that case you can just reformat the root partition and leave what ever other partitions u have intact
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: its different now now messing with source list
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:16] <julie> that link is for a cdrom .. I'm using internet
[17:17] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic | julie
[17:17] <ubotu> julie: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[17:17] <eagles0513875> julie: thats the only way to really do it cuz the other way by changing the sources would break alot of stuff
[17:18] <julie> where is that .. I cant' find it
[17:18] <julie> help
[17:18] <julie> Applications / K menu
[17:18] <mado> hi guys
[17:19] <mado> somebody sent me the following link
[17:19] <mado> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/scummvm/scummvm_0.11.1-0.etch.1_i386.deb?download
[17:19] <eagles0513875> julie: the cd upgrade is used in conjunction with the internet its to check pkg dependencies and whats been removed from previous installation
[17:19] <mado> but i don't have debian installed and i heard it wasn't wise to install e.g. an etch-deb-package
[17:19] <mado> what do you think?
[17:19] <mado> was this person right?
[17:19] <eagles0513875> mado: you are running kubuntu right
[17:20] <mado> yes ... i'm running kubuntu ... 7.10
[17:20] <julie> so I have to download the cd then use it
[17:20] <julie> what if someone dosen't have a cdrw
[17:20] <eagles0513875> mado: kubuntu is debian based so that pkg is fine to use
[17:20] <ryanakca> eagles0513875: no
[17:20] <mado> *smiling*
[17:20] <ryanakca> mado: install the 'scummvm' package from the repositories
[17:21] <DreadKnight> julie: you need to add the hardy repository...
[17:21] <mado> i installed it ... but it is an old one
[17:21] <eagles0513875> julie: i just did a clean install since i was already on hardy beta
[17:21] <mado> isn't there a newer version in another repository?
[17:21] <ryanakca> mado: 'sudo aptitude install scummvm' or go to Adept and install it from there :)
[17:21] <ryanakca> !info scummvm
[17:21] <ubotu> scummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1build1 (gutsy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 4244 kB
[17:21] <mado> yeah! ...
[17:21] <mado> that's the old one
[17:21] <julie> DreadKnight: we are not getting anywhere here . can I change all the gutsy to hardy in the sources list to upgrade
[17:22] <mado> ScummVM 0.11.1 is the latest one
[17:22] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have the gutsy cd
[17:22] <DreadKnight> julie: it's an old methor of doing things... ok..
[17:22] <DreadKnight> method*
[17:22] <ryanakca> mado: ah, sorry. Hmm... Well, hardy has 0.11.1-1 , gutsy doesn't. Well, you could try, but your mileage may vary and it isn't a supported method
[17:22] <mado> ryanakca, ... pardon?
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: (aka, some dependencies might not be at the right version in the gutsy repository)
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: you can try, but it will most likely break, and it isn't a supported method
[17:23] <eagles0513875> ryanakca: julie would like to upgrade to hardy the old fashioned way changing the source list could you walk her through the new method of upgrading
[17:23] <DreadKnight> julie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:23] <ryanakca> eagles0513875: sorry, I need to go eat
[17:23] <eagles0513875> ryanakca: ok
[17:23] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... well ... then i will play with the old version or will wait the next few days to pass and install "heron" :)
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: sorry I can't be of more help, I need to go have lunch
[17:23] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: youre walking over ground i already covered
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: goodies :D
[17:23] <mado> do that!
[17:24] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Cleaning my install from somesuperfluos applications :p
[17:24] <mado> enjoy it!
[17:24] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: um.. ok..
[17:24] <mado> bon appetit!
[17:24] <eagles0513875> kaminix: lol like what
[17:24] <kaminix> eagles0513875: kmag, strigi, dolphin etc ^^
[17:24] <mado> maybe you can explain later to me ... why it is bad to install a debian-package
[17:25] <eagles0513875> mado: its not all the pkgs in the repos r .deb
[17:25] <mado> but please explain it in a simple way ... so that i can tell my parents too if they want to know it
[17:26] <eagles0513875> mado: older versions possibly depend on older dependencies which have probably been improved or phased out so if you install something new u might now have the proper dependencies and can create numerous problems
[17:26] <eagles0513875> kaminix: i need to start doing that and taking notes of what i removed for my os
[17:26] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have a gutsy cd
[17:26] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Why take notes?
[17:26] <eagles0513875> kaminix: so if i break anything and have to reinstall i can and remember what i did dont forget this is for my cluster os development
[17:27] <kaminix> What exactly is a Cluster OS?
[17:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: take a bunch of desktop pc's and make them function as one aka main frame but a whole lot cheaper
[17:28] <kaminix> For what purpose would you want to do that?
[17:29] <eagles0513875> kaminix: is ur nick registered
[17:29] <kaminix> It is
[17:29] <eagles0513875> ok imgoing to private chat with ya
[17:30] <errpast> anyone used a ergo 4000 microsoft keyboard with kubuntu?
[17:30] <errpast> I've got rsi
[17:30] <errpast> I need it to work
[17:36] <jacalope> hi all... looked for info on this kmail bug but can't find it.... first: kde: 3.5.9, kmail: 1.9.9.... when using imap, gets stuck in synch, repeats indefininitely.... read emails become unread.... anyone have an idea, link, etc...?
[17:36] <user__> hi all
[17:39] <Makuseru> What are some programs that will play DVDs? I tried Kaffeine, but it said it needed codecs, asked me if i watned to install them, i clicked yes, but nothing happened. Are there any others?
[17:39] <the-erm> errpast: I've never had problems with keyboards ... I usually plug them in and go.  You might need to use xev to figure out the codes for the keys, and then edit the name of a file that escapes me at this time :)
[17:40] <the-erm> Just google xev keyboard setup, and you should find what you need.
[17:41] <the-erm> Makuseru: You're going to need ... I think it's called css lib or lib css.  Not sure to be honest, because I don't use the computer to watch dvds.
[17:41] <Makuseru> the-erm: i found it, libdvdcss2
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[17:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:41] <the-erm> Makuseru: I all you have to do is enable the "restricted" repository in adept_manager.
[17:42] <the-erm> But be careful it could be against the law in your country to install it.
[17:42] <Makuseru> the-erm: i found it, libdvdcss2
[17:43] <the-erm> I'm wondering if I should install the RC for 8.04.
[17:43] <the-erm> Last time I upgraded it wasn't fun.
[17:44] <the-erm> If I did it now, I wonder if it would be easier when the official 8.04 came out.
[17:44] <the-erm> Well less downloads anyways ...
[17:45] <BluesKaj> the-erm, the "official release " is only 4 days away
[17:45] <the-erm> Last time they released it took forever to download ...
[17:46] <the-erm> I wanted apt-torrent to exist very badly.  Then again I had quite a few weird repositories in the list.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> I have a bunch of broken pkges so I'm doing a clean install in a week or so , once the DL activity dies down somewhat
[17:47] <the-erm> It's always the same ... an impatient itch comes over me when its about time for the new one to come out.
[17:49] <jacalope> how do you downgrade a package (like kmail) to an earlier version?
[17:50] <DarkShinigami> Hello all.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> my problem is I don't know what broke my networking apps like samba and cupsys, so a clean install may not fix what is broken ...could be something on the windows network side
[17:51] <DarkShinigami> I am using a Dell SmartStep 250N. How can I get the FN function and top "Easy Launch Keys" to work?
[17:52] <the-erm> BluesKaj: are you running inside a vm?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> no
[17:52] <ryanakca> mado: Hi, back, sorry, my parents were shouting at me to go eat. Ok, still need the explanation?
[17:52] <the-erm> Then changes of windows breaking something inside kubuntu is practically nill.
[17:53] <the-erm> s/changes/chances
[17:53] <mado> well ... sorry that they shouted at you ... and yes ... please explain it to me
[17:54] <the-erm> BluesKaj: I would check the network settings.
[17:54] <BluesKaj> yeah the-erm , that's what I "was" thing as well , but I'm beginning to wonder
[17:54] <BluesKaj> thinking
[17:55] <the-erm> Of course if you're in here, I think your network is fine.
[17:55] <the-erm> You probably need to restart your cups.sys files.
[17:55] <the-erm> er daemon.
[17:55] <ryanakca> mado: OK, packages have dependencies, that's to say, it depends on other packages to run. However, when you install a package from say Debian, that hasn't been backported or prepared for your current system,
[17:55] <the-erm> I recall not too long ago that cups had an update.
[17:56] <the-erm> Maybe something in /etc/cups got overwritten.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> nope, they're damaged beyond repair I'm afraid
[17:56] <jor> hola
[17:56] <jor> alguien habla español
[17:56] <jor> ki
[17:56] <jor> en esta
[17:56] <jor> sala
[17:56] <jor> ??
[17:56] <jor> ?
[17:57] <ryanakca> mado: the versions of the dependencies of the package you wish to install might not be correct. ex: A-1.0 depends on B-3.2.2, but on your system, you can only install B-3.2.0.
[17:57] <DarkShinigami> !sp | jor
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <ryanakca> !es | jor
[17:57] <ubotu> jor: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> the-erm, E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[17:57] <DarkShinigami> !es | jor
[17:58] <mado> ok ... i see ... thanks ryanakca ... is this the "only" problem?
[17:59] <ryanakca> mado: because the dependencies aren't at the right version, the program will often break and crash at wierd times. If other programs depend on that program, then those programs also break. Thus it creates a big chain of breakage that wouldn't exist if you had stayed with the original Ubuntu package. Installing 3rd party packages might also cause issues when upgrading.
[17:59] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... thank you very much for that explanation
[17:59] <the-erm> BluesKaj: make it :) sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial;
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yeah did that
[18:00] <ryanakca> mado: thus, it isn't recommended. You can try, but no garanty. (personally, I'd just upgrade to Hardy today, or wait four days until release)
[18:00] <ryanakca> And you're quite welcome :)
[18:00] <mado> well ... i will wait :)
[18:01] <BluesKaj> the-erm, aha , forgot the semi colon at the end of the command , thx ...seems to be working now
[18:02] <the-erm> BluesKaj: It needs to have 755 for the perms, and root:root for the owners.
[18:03] <ang3lo5> hi
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> hey ang3lo5
[18:04] <ang3lo5> quick question
[18:04] <BluesKaj> the-erm, sorry to say , i got several errors,  Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-common-dev_0.6.20-2ubuntu3.3_i386.deb ..is an example
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> ask
[18:04] <the-erm> I don't know if it's a good idea to rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb or not.
[18:05] <ang3lo5> my video playback is crapy..i tried vlc too...also crapy with HD video rips....
[18:05] <the-erm> ang3lo5: are you sure you're using the right driver?
[18:05] <kostas2505> hello to all!
[18:06] <ang3lo5> ati driver was installed
[18:06] <the-erm> I use the open gl driver ... can't remember the official name, but xine seems to work ok.
[18:06] <ang3lo5> auto
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: what video card?
[18:07] <ang3lo5> *new to linux and i find ubuntu perfect...just this litle think bothers me...
[18:07] <ang3lo5> x800 pci-e
[18:07] <Signil> hi I am trying ot get my acer orbicam to work here.. downloaded the gspca drivers .. but it isn't detected :s
[18:08] <kostas2505> if possible i'd like to ask if there is way update drivers automatically since my knowledge in kubuntu and linux in general are up to installing the distribution NOTHING MORE
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> kostas2505: they are automatically updated
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: ok, what driver are you using? fglrx or the Open source ati
[18:09] <the-erm> kostas2505: Usually adept_notifier will pop up in your taskbar when updates are available.  I recommend against running apt-get update; apt-get upgrade automatically, because if something breaks, you don't know what packages were installed last.
[18:10] <the-erm> If you know what's being installed, you might have an idea of where to look if something stops working.
[18:10] <ang3lo5> it was automatically downloaded....:( cant say....i dont know how i can see my devices also so i can check drivers ver.
[18:10] <the-erm> It seems like whenever postfix I have to make sure everything is ok in /etc/postfix.
[18:10] <kostas2505> i think that does not include e.g:cosmote usb portable modem ?
[18:11] <ang3lo5> *cant
[18:11] <the-erm> one day I'm going to learn how to talk in complete sentences.
[18:11] <ang3lo5> me to
[18:11] <ang3lo5> lol
[18:12] <ang3lo5> is there something like a device manager in ub8.04?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> what's the runbox equivalent in kde4 ?
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: ok, its simple enough, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: Krunner?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> run command
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: I think there might be, but i'm not sure, "sudo lshw" will tell you everything though
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah, krunner
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: and support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> for another 4 days :P
[18:14] <ang3lo5> thank you :)
[18:16] <ang3lo5> found it...driver is fglrx
[18:17] <FFForever> how would i upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04?
[18:17] <the-erm> FFForever: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[18:18] <the-erm> You have to download the alt cd.
[18:18] <jussio1> FFForever: you eed to go incrementally, ie. 7.04, 7.10, 8.04
[18:19] <FFForever> i have to upgrade to 7.10 first?
[18:21] <tanja> hallo
[18:21] <tanja> hallo bräuchte hilfe beim einrichten kubuntu
[18:22] <jussio1> FFForever: correct
[18:23] <jussio1> !de | tanja
[18:23] <ubotu> tanja: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:24] <tanja> #kubuntu-de
[18:25] <FFForever> is 8.04 safe?, for real use?, not just vmware.....
[18:26] <jussio1> FFForever: Im on it now, and it comes out in a few days. if its a real big problem, wat for the next 4 days, its not that long
[18:26] <jussio1> :)
[18:26] <ryanakca> FFForever: yes, you would need to upgrade to 7.10 before upgrading to 8.04
[18:26] <FFForever> ill just wipe ^_^
[18:41] <Signil> hi.. my acrer orbicam isn't detected! pls help
[18:42] <Signil> acer*
[18:59] <poseidon> I am dualbooting openSuse and wiindows xp, how would I go about installing kubuntu over openSuse?
[19:00] <stdin> poseidon: just format the partition during the kubuntu install process
[19:02] <BioVorE> you can setup the partitions manualy in the Kubuntu installer
[19:03] <BluesKaj> poseidon , are using the live cd ?
[19:03] <poseidon> BluesKaj, I'm going to use one for kubuntu, yes.
[19:04] <`ubuntu_user`> test msg
[19:04] <BluesKaj> use the partition manager to choose the linux partition(either ext2 or ext3)  and overwrite it with ext3 .
[19:05] <poseidon> In order to get internet, I have to install a driver.  Can I do this on the livecd then use the driver to connect to the internet during the install?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> no connection to the internet with the live cd ?
[19:06] <poseidon> BluesKaj, when I had ubuntu, I had to install a driver in order to get a connection.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> which ubuntu version was that ?
[19:08] <poseidon> BluesKaj, 8.04 beta
[19:10] <BluesKaj> I would try to install kubuntu before worrying about a driver. It may not be necessary.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> the driver you used with suse should be ok , if you have it available
[19:11] <manu__> uyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[19:14] <latitu>  how to run an app as system service on boot?
[19:16] <maduser> I think throug cron or by adding it to the start up script
[19:17] <stdin> !boot
[19:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[19:17] <maduser> that was it rc.local
[19:17] <latitu> maduser stdin thx
[19:18] <latitu> stdin iam trying to startup firestarter at boot . i lll put it in rc.local. will that make it system servcie and how  to avoide password?
[19:19] <stdin> firestarter starts on boot anyway
[19:19] <stdin> the GUI doesn't, but the iptables rules get loaded
[19:21] <poseidon> How do I get to gparted from the 8.04 livecd?  I am dualbooting openSuse and xp.  I want to delete openSuse and install ubuntu.
[19:21] <latitu> it doesnt starts on boot
[19:21] <stdin> latitu: how do you know it doesn't?
[19:22] <stdin> poningru: just install over it
[19:24] <BluesKaj> poseidon, have you chosen the install option yet ?
[19:25] <latitu> what does /etc/init.d do?
[19:25] <poseidon> BluesKah, no
[19:26] <dkkdkkc4> newbie here
[19:26] <stdin> latitu: it contains startup scripts
[19:26] <Stroganoff> latitu it is a folder containing scripts for starting and stopping system wide services
[19:26] <BluesKaj> that's the path to follow , click on install in order to get to the partition manager
[19:26] <poseidon> BluesKaj, k thinks
[19:26] <latitu> so what is more powerful and unstopable. init.d or rc.local?
[19:27] <stdin> latitu: /etc/rc.local gets started from /etc/init.d/rc.local
[19:29] <BluesKaj> too many ubuntus in here
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !nick
[19:29] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> oops , that's not it
[19:30] <genii> BluesKaj: I'd rather see 100 "ubuntu"s than 1 "root"
[19:31] <BluesKaj> hi genii, yeah especially in the showers :)
[19:31] <genii> BluesKaj: hehe
[19:31] <latitu> stdin so init.d is powerful. and i wonder why theres a need for rc.local if init.d does that?
[19:32] <stdin> latitu: rc.local is used to put commands in when you don't want to write a startup script, put it in /etc/init.d and setup the links
[19:33] <BluesKaj> genii, my network is 'borked', and got all kinds of broken packages, all to do with cups, so installs and updates are also blocked
[19:34] <genii> BluesKaj: Ouch. I'd consider a clean install
[19:34] <BluesKaj> tried replacing the missing debs but no joy
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, guess it's in the works next week
[19:35] <genii> BluesKaj: Maybe you have mixed repos (Gutsy/Hardy or so)
[19:35] <BluesKaj> nope, no hardy
[19:36] <BluesKaj> checked the sources.list
[19:36] <genii> Other things that come to mind are maybe messing with apt pinning
[19:37] <BluesKaj> well, I'm sure i did 'something' :)
[19:38] <BluesKaj> altho my Tivo connection is still ok
[19:39] <genii> BluesKaj: Since it's almost always 3 times more difficult to undo/clean/diagnose these types of embedded probs the prudent thing is just a reinstall
[19:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, gonna do it when Hardy is official
[19:40] <genii> Oh yeah, Thursday :)
[19:40] <BluesKaj> altho I 've heard that theis latest release is prolly as good as it's gonna get :)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> beta that is
[19:41] <genii> BluesKaj: I've heard rumours of 8.04.1 for sometime first week or so of May
[19:42] <ToMMmMMMM> Hi, I'm having problems finding a network on my wifi card... When I first installed it..it was fine but after I rebooted a couple times it can't find a network :( Any helps?
[19:45] <DarkShinigami> Is there an official date for the relast of 8.04?
[19:45] <tomaz_> yes, there is.
[19:45] <genii> DarkShinigami: April 24
[19:45] <tomaz_> really near =)
[19:45] <DarkShinigami> :) T minus 4 days
[19:46] <fadey> Hi. I've upgraded to hardy RC. On booting I get :ALERT! /dev/sda2 doesn't exist. How do I combat that?
[19:47] <genii> fadey: Perhaps they'll know in #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[19:59] <jparishy> I asked this question in #linux, but i figure i might as well ask here too.
[19:59] <jparishy> Hey. I have kubuntu installed on my mac book but i recently resized one of my partitions and since then i cannot boot up into linux.  Usually I hold the option key down on startup to show me a menu of the os's on the computer, but linux doesn't show up anymore. Furthermore, I tried setting the linux partition to boot automatically (via "bless" command in osx) but that just hangs the computer. The data in the os is still there as I can mo
[20:01] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: Do you have xscreensaver installed?
[20:02] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: it was not but i just installed it do you think this will help?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> jparishy, download the Ultimate Boot Disk and burn it..it's very useful at restoring bootloader menus
[20:03] <jparishy> Thanks :D
[20:03] <maduser> whats the kde customize program?
[20:03] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: It should. I recall that being the solution for me a while back
[20:03] <jparishy> Will do
[20:03] <DarkShinigami> BluesKaj: Is that similar to SGD?
[20:04] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: I will wait to see if it comes on ill write back in a few minutes. Thank You
[20:04] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: NP. Hope it works
[20:04] <BluesKaj> DarkShinigami, yes
[20:15] <sourcemaker_> is there a good book to understand the Linux Kernel. (Architecture, Development.. and so on)...
[20:18] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: it is still not working any more ideas? the screen just goes blank when the screensaver is supposed to kick on
[20:20] <Earthwings> Hi, a question on upgrading: Can I use a command line upgrade like this? Update all packages, change things in sources.list to read hoary, update again? Or does the graphical version do more?
[20:20] <DarkestHour> !upgrade
[20:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:20] <DarkestHour> you should be able to apply those to hardy
[20:20] <Earthwings> ubotu: it doesn't cover it
[20:21] <DarkestHour> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:21] <DarkestHour> that does.
[20:21] <JoshOvki> Earthwings: when i last upgraded i killed my install cause it hang, might be worth making a data backup first
[20:21] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[20:21] <Earthwings> DarkestHour: i'm looking for a command line version
[20:22] <DarkestHour> run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:22] <DarkestHour> that should do it command line.
[20:22] <Earthwings> JoshOvki: yeah, i plan to test it on one of the workstations before i do them all :)
[20:25] <DarkestHour> brb
[20:27] <icewaterman> what tool can i use to create 1 pdf from a large amount of images?
[20:30] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[20:31] <DarkestHour> back
[20:31] <Earthwings> icewaterman: imagemagick (convert,mogrify,...)
[20:33] <icewaterman> Earthwings: imagemagick is for manipulating images
[20:33] <junkie> Okay, so i downloaded and burned the ultimate boot cd and ran it on the computer, but I'm not sure what i need to do to fix the problem. Anyone know?
[20:33] <icewaterman> Earthwings: the images are already fine, just wanna print them all into a single pdf file
[20:34] <Earthwings> icewaterman: one page each?
[20:35] <icewaterman> Earthwings: yes
[20:36] <icewaterman> Earthwings: but only 1 will fit onto one page anyway, so the program doesnt even need to know that i want 1 page each, they will simply just fit
[20:36] <asif> Hello there...
[20:36] <lz1gjd> could anyone tell me how to connect to a vpn in hardy rc , pls ?
[20:36] <icewaterman> lz1gjd: -> #ubuntu+1
[20:36] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | lz1gjd
[20:36] <ubotu> lz1gjd: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:36] <Earthwings> icewaterman: personally i'd write a script to generate a .tex file and have latex do the rest
[20:36] <asif> A quick question: "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008", I get this error chaning password...any ideas whats wrong
[20:37] <Earthwings> asif: is that time in the future in your timezone?
[20:38] <asif> hello earthwings... 20.4 is today, how could it be future?
[20:39] <asif> i want to change password to login as root in order to do many things..but i cant do it. any help... it is 8.04 kubuntu beta
[20:40] <icewaterman> Earthwings: i am gonna use gtklp
[20:41] <skabet> asif: can't you use sudo?
[20:42] <biopod> Hi all, a quick question, how can i remove dolphin from KDE4 7.10 ?
[20:42] <Ketrel> I may have found a bug, but before I go to file it, could anyone else comment, none of the keyboard shortcuts under Miscellaneous (in the system settings), have any effect (Gutsy using KDE3)
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> biopod: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:43] <biopod> ok, thanks
[20:43] <asif> skabet: i can. but i want to use root account to login once and do everything once. but chpasswd fails saying "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008"
[20:43] <asif> this is so strange
[20:44] <skabet> asif: what about adding yourself to root group for a while being
[20:44] <kde-devel> Hi, I discovered a huge bug in KDE :D
[20:44] <skabet> asif: is chpasswd the same as passwd ?
[20:44] <asif> ah...just a sec...lemme check
[20:45] <PhilRod> kde-devel: report it on bugs.kde.org
[20:45] <skabet> asif: sudo passwd root
[20:45] <skabet> asif: try that
[20:45] <icewaterman> Earthwings: ok, that was a really bad idea
[20:46] <kde-devel> For a moment ago my disk space for / went totally out, which mean 0 b free. That should not even be possible. anyway, when I restartaed computer and should login as usual. Guess what, KDE did not start because there was no space left. i hade to manually in temrinal mode delete files with rm, which I hope I never have to do again.
[20:46] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:46] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:46] <asif> this is what happens
[20:46] <asif> ???
[20:46] <skabet> no idea then :)
[20:46] <Earthwings> asif: just use sudo su
[20:46] <Earthwings> afterwards you're root
[20:46] <kde-devel> PhilRod: I do not know how to do that. They always require so damn many details and everything.
[20:47] <asif> earthwings:
[20:47] <Earthwings> asif: the root account is disabled in /etc/passwd, you have to edit it first to use it
[20:47] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:47] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:47] <asif> same result
[20:47] <asif> is it a bug?
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: maybe you can use gwenview or some other image viewer
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: open the directory with the images, print and choose pdf a sprinter
[20:47] <JoshOvki> asif: whats your BIOS time and date at?
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: didn't try that though
[20:47] <asif> how do i check it joshovki?
[20:48] <PhilTrunk> kde-devel: well, them's the breaks. If you want to report bugs, you have to provide details
[20:48] <Earthwings> asif: 'sudo su' does give that warning?
[20:48] <JoshOvki> restart, hit F1, Esc or Del   (what ever your bios require) and take a look in there. not sure if you can do it from command
[20:48] <icewaterman> Earthwings: but i did - doesnt work
[20:48] <kde-devel> Earthwings, asif: Do you possibly know how to change from kdesu to kdesudo in kde trunk? Because when I am logged in to trunk I cannot enter for instance adept because kdesu does not accept kdesudo passwords for root.
[20:48] <Earthwings> icewaterman: it only prints one image?
[20:48] <PhilTrunk> kde-devel: anyway, it's not that hard - go to bugs.kde.org, sign up for an account, then fill in the bug wizard
[20:48] <asif> yes earthwings..it gives exactly the same message as i quoted above
[20:49] <icewaterman> Earthwings: one works, multiple dont
[20:49] <kde-devel> PhilTrunk: Okay, I guess
[20:49] <Earthwings> asif: what does 'date' tell you?
[20:49] <Stepa1> I am using Ubuntu and I need help with installing the Monkey Audio Plugin for K3b.
[20:49] <icewaterman> Earthwings: probably gonna do this in windows, freepdf xp is quite nice for that
[20:49] <Earthwings> icewaterman: some other image gallery tool? konqueror can do galleries, you could print that
[20:49] <Stepa1> I followed all instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 and did not get any errors
[20:49] <asif> earthwings:
[20:49] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:49] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:50] <asif> date
[20:50] <asif> Sun Apr 20 21:49:31 CEST 2008
[20:50] <Earthwings> asif: not "sudo passwd root", but "sudo su"
[20:50] <JoshOvki> asif: try this  sudo -k
[20:50] <asif> Here is it
[20:50] <asif> sudo su
[20:50] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:50] <mwe> Where do I find the utility for changing the ksplash theme?
[20:51] <dylan_> On Hardy, my monitor's resolution isn't recogized properly and the correct resolution (1280x1024) isn't available through they system config tool.
[20:51] <dylan_> Anyknow know how I might be able to fix this?
[20:51] <Earthwings> kde-devel: the account needs to be part of the admin group
[20:51] <dylan_> I used to be able to hand edit the xorg.conf file, but there are no modelines in there anymore.
[20:51] <Earthwings> kde-devel: for sudo to work
[20:51] <asif> JoshOvki....THANK YOU sudo -k worked like magic :)
[20:51] <Stepa1> Can anyone help with the install of the monkey plugin for k3b
[20:51] <asif> wow
[20:52] <Earthwings> dylan_: use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:52] <JoshOvki> :)
[20:52] <asif> thank you earthwings too.
[20:52] <dylan_> Earthwings: I tried that already. Thanks.
[20:52] <asif> and all the forum
[20:52] <Earthwings> asif: np
[20:52] <dylan_> Earthwings: That only lets me reconfigure my keyboard on Hardy.
[20:53] <Earthwings> dylan_: hm, let me check myself
[20:53] <kde-devel> Earthwings: Yes, I know. All my accounts are. The problem is kde su which differs from kde sudo.
[20:54] <icewaterman> Earthwings: how does konqueror create galleries?
[20:54] <Stepa1> I need help installing Monkey Audio plugin to K3b and used instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 but it didnt work
[20:54] <Earthwings> dylan_: wow, you're right. probably this bulletproof thing interfering
[20:54] <Earthwings> icewaterman: the one in kde 3.5 has an option in the menu "create image gallery" or something
[20:55] <dylan_> Earthwings: Well, the new Xorg server is supposed to auto-configure everything for you, but it's doing a very poor job on my hardware.
[20:55] <mwe> IIRC there used to be a "Look and feel->Splash screen" entry but it seems to be gone now?
[20:55] <dylan_> And while I love auto-configuration, I need to be able to fix things when the automagic doesn't work properly.
[20:56] <icewaterman> Earthwings: ok, i also can rule that out
[20:58] <icewaterman> linux probably has no such tool or just one i need to read 100 pages manual in order to get a 50 line-size command to do what i want
[20:59] <Earthwings> dylan_: you're right. and i'd like the old reconfigure feature back, too
[21:00] <Earthwings> dylan_: but i guess the old entries should still be valid, no?
[21:00] <dylan_> Earthwings: Actually, they are not. I had saved my old xorg.conf file and it just ignores it.
[21:00] <dylan_> And the one that kubuntu created during installation is pretty bare bones. It's almost empty.
[21:02] <Laruft> I've installed the ubuntu. now considering switching to kubuntu - should I do a complete format/re-install ?  also considering updating to the heron ver.  Unfortunately i've not kept track of changes to my current ubuntu install :-(
[21:03] <Laruft> I suppose i could run a diff and see the changes.
[21:03] <icewaterman> Laruft: you can have kde on ubuntu, no need to install kubuntu again
[21:03] <Earthwings> Laruft: i'd say that installing 'kubuntu-desktop' should give a pretty kubuntuish system
[21:03] <Laruft> and can I update to heron when it comes out without reinstalling?
[21:03] <Laruft> re-formatting even
[21:04] <Earthwings> Laruft: yes
[21:04] <icewaterman> Laruft: of course
[21:05] <dylan_> Laruft: I concur with the advise given, but if you have little of value in your existing installation, starting from a clean kubuntu install will mean that you need to upgrade fewer packages.
[21:05] <dylan_> If I were you, i would wait until the final release of Hardy and install that.
[21:06] <Laruft> i've set up a few things.  I am running ubuntu server+gnome desktop  have got webmin/squid/pureftpd/dnsmasq installed etc
[21:06] <dylan_> Laruft: Then, don't heed my advice
[21:07] <Laruft> well I am a n00b at linux, trying to switch from winxp completely
[21:07] <Laruft> still need to set up mail server/fetcmail?
[21:08] <Laruft> I wish i logged my changes to default install, as then I could re-setup any distro
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> guys, need help here
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> I have apt-get removed a package
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> and then rm -rf it's config dir
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> but it's still marked as "rc" - "removed, configs present"
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> so neither installation nor de-installation of that package now works
[21:10] <rysiek|pl> any pointers? tried purging, forcing, etc., nop luck
[21:10] <rysiek|pl> it's starting to be damn frustrating
[21:13] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: why can't you install it?
[21:13] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: what error messages do you get?
[21:14] <rysiek|pl> Earthwings: /usr/lib/courier/authlib/authdaemond: line 24: /etc/courier/authdaemonrc: No such file or directory
[21:14] <rysiek|pl> obviously... -_-'
[21:16] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: when does it come up? during installation/purging of the package?
[21:16] <rysiek|pl> installation, purging, deleting, aptitude upgrade too
[21:17] <rysiek|pl> seems to me somebody fscked the packaging (why on earth the remove script actually tries to START the service?..)
[21:17] <Earthwings> ok, it might be part of the prerm/postconfig scripts
[21:17] <stdin> try "sudo touch /etc/courier/authdaemonrc", then purge
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> -_-'
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> worked like a charm
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> this is the moment to start bangin my dumb head against a wall
[21:19] <stdin> if it complains that it wants file to exist, create it ;)
[21:19] <JoshOvki> lol
[21:19] <rysiek|pl> well, it was a part of complaining about not being able to start the daemon
[21:19] <rysiek|pl> so I *assumed* an empty file will not dig it (there will be a syntax error or whatever)
[21:20] <rysiek|pl> and we all love assumptions, don't we
[21:20] <Earthwings> hehe
[21:21] <gromozekin> Hi, All!
[21:21] <iltechie> !bind
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:21] <iltechie> !dns
[21:21] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[21:21] <gromozekin> !freebsd_install
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd_install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:21] <DarkestHour> Hi gromozekin
[21:21] <gromozekin> !found_beer
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about found_beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:22] <gromozekin> )
[21:22] <gromozekin> hi
[21:22] <gromozekin> heh.
[21:22] <gromozekin> today i ve already installed kubuntu 7.10.
[21:22] <rysiek|pl> !patch_kde2_for_freebsd
[21:22] <gromozekin> ))))))))))))))))))
[21:22] <iltechie> !offtopic
[21:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:23] <gromozekin> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <DarkestHour> Alrighty.
[21:23] <gromozekin> offtopic == windows?
[21:23] <DarkestHour> Offtopic means non support talk.
[21:23] <tsb> Hi. I run  kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-proposed" however "version upgrade" does not appear (gutsy to heron)
[21:24] <gromozekin> Hi. Why when I use Adept Manager its download old packages (for example, Pidgin 2.2.1). I suppose it`s because default repo
[21:25] <gromozekin> can you name me smth more repos
[21:26] <stdin> 0.2.0 of a release is that important to you?
[21:26] <stdin> tsb: try enabling gutsy-proposed first
[21:26] <gromozekin> maybe there are some changes (about security etc)
[21:26] <tsb> stdin: I've reduced my source.list file to 1 line; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse
[21:27] <stdin> gromozekin: if there were security updates they'd have been backported already
[21:27] <gromozekin> ok
[21:27] <gromozekin> + how to use ndiswrapper (cheers cause i ve google)
[21:27] <stdin> tsb: then you need to add another "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed main universe restricted multiverse"
[21:27] <stdin> !wifi
[21:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:27] <stdin> there's a whole section ^there
[21:28] <maco> why would my keyboard work in every app except KMail's email composer?
[21:28] <tsb> stdin: okay now sources.list has those two lines; still no "version upgrade" though..
[21:28] <stdin> tsb: have you clicked the "Fetch Updates" button?
[21:29] <tsb> stdin: yes
[21:29] <tsb> stdin: and tried quitting/starting again after
[21:29] <julie> hi, the resolution of my kdm login screen is much higher than the resolutioon of the screen , any idea how to fix this
[21:29] <maco> typing the email in gedit and pasting into KMail shouldn't be the only way to send one
[21:30] <stdin> tsb: I'd recommend enabling "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main universe restricted multiverse" too, then do an upgrade of any package. then see if adept will work with it. if not then pop into #kubuntu-devel
[21:31] <julie> will kde4 comeout on hardy
[21:31] <stdin> it already is
[21:31] <maco> How do i send an encrypted email? It keeps saying the identity's not defined, but shouldn't it just pull the key that goes with the email address to which it's addressed?
[21:31] <gromozekin> damn
[21:31] <DarkestHour> julie: it's in the "Remix" version as default.
[21:32] <julie> I have installed two languages on my system, persian and english.. I have them both but now I want to go back to english. I have selected that but skill the kmenu and some other features are set in persian any ideas?
[21:32] <ubuntu> salve a tutti
[21:33] <tsb> stdin: thanks, it didn't work so I'm going there then
[21:33] <thanos> hallo?
[21:33] <thanos> ich bins gast287
[21:33] <stdin> !de | thanos
[21:33] <ubotu> thanos: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:34] <stdin> !it | ubuntu
[21:34] <ubotu> ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:34] <maco> does anyone here know how to use kmail?
[21:36] <julie> maco: what specifically do you have problem using?
[21:36] <maco> julie: it says it cant find encryption keys
[21:36] <maco> julie: but i know the key is in my gpg key list
[21:36] <latitu_> wh
[21:37] <julie> maco: sorry I don't know how to use pgp..
[21:37] <julie> someone else might be able to help hang around
[21:37] <maco> evolution could find the key, but claimed it didnt match the person i'm sending to....i guess it's time to try thunderbird againb
[21:37] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:38] <Earthwings> maco: gpg -K is fine?
[21:39] <p_quarles> latitu_, do you have kdm installed?
[21:40] <latitu_> p_quarles yes.
[21:40] <Earthwings> maco: where are you trying to configure it? you need to setup each identiy (email adress)
[21:40] <maco> Earthwings: gpg -K? whats that do?
[21:41] <p_quarles> latitu_, and it's set to start automatically? (ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm )
[21:41] <Earthwings> maco: that lists the gpg keys you configured, just to ensure that gpg itself works fine
[21:41] <maco> Earthwings: it just lists my keys. i want to encrypt a message for somebody else
[21:42] <p_quarles> maco, and you've signed their key already?
[21:42] <maco> normaly id use gedit and copy and paste, but i need to get the attachment to be encrypted too
[21:42] <maco> p_quarles: no
[21:42] <p_quarles> I'm no gpg expert, but don't you have to sign their key before you can make them a recipient?
[21:43] <Earthwings> p_quarles: you need his public key, yes
[21:43] <maco> p_quarles: that seems like it'd be silly...if every person that sent you anything signed your key, your key would be MASSIVE
[21:43] <maco> i have the public key
[21:44] <maco> so somewhere in kmail i have to link together his email address and his key, even though his email address is in his key?
[21:44] <Earthwings> maco: no
[21:44] <Earthwings> maco: you need to setup your own email adress for gpg, that's all
[21:45] <maco> i set it up for signing
[21:45] <Earthwings> maco: kmail -> configure -> identities -> choose your email adresss -> change -> cryptography -> open pgp key -> Change -> Choose
[21:45] <maco> it wont let me for encrypting
[21:45] <maco> encrypting an email for someone else shouldn't require my key though
[21:45] <maco> just theirs
[21:46] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:47] <maco> when i try to set my own encryption key in kmail, it puts a red X over it and turns off the OK button
[21:48] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:48] <p_quarles> latitu_, before repeating your question, perhaps you could answer my last one?
[21:49] <julie> my kde resolution is too hight.. kdm actually how do I fix this?
[21:49] <maco> er....why does hitting the Send button in KMail ask if i want to leave the editor?
[21:50] <p_quarles> maco, what version of kmail are you using?
[21:50] <latitu_> p_quarles $ ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm
[21:50] <latitu_> S13kdm
[21:50] <maco> p_quarles: whatever's in hardy
[21:51] <p_quarles> latitu_, okay, what happens if (from the terminal) you type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (instead of startx)
[21:51] <p_quarles> maco, the KDE3 version or KDE4?
[21:51] <maco> p_quarles: there is no kde4 version
[21:51] <ubuntu> if someone doesnt mind helping a true newb out with a LinuxMCE install that i efed up
[21:51] <rysiek|pl> oh yes there is
[21:51] <latitu_> p_quarles sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[21:52] <latitu_> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[21:52] <p_quarles> latitu_, weird; try running the script with "restart" then
[21:52] <maco> rysiek|pl: was that to me?  kde4 version of kdepim's not out yet
[21:52] <maco> and certainly not in hardy's repo
[21:53] <latitu_> p_quarles how do i put it in init.d ? i think thats what is missing?
[21:53] <rysiek|pl> maco: ah, thought you were talking about KDE as a whole
[21:53] <rysiek|pl> maco: sorry about that
[21:53] <ubuntu> does anyone here have experiance with MCE?
[21:53] <p_quarles> latitu_, umm, it's not there?
[21:54] <latitu_> p_quarles how do i check?
[21:54] <maco> latitu_: if it could say "already running" then it's there
[21:54] <p_quarles> ls /etc/init.d
[21:54] <p_quarles> +1 what maco said
[21:54] <p_quarles> anyway, like I said: run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:55] <ubuntu> can anyone help out with formating a HD from the live CD
[21:55] <ubuntu> ?
[21:55] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: what are you trying to do
[21:56] <maco> is KMail *supposed* to tell you that some mythical external editor is running and then ask if you want to abort it when you click Send?
[21:56] <p_quarles> ubuntu, run gparted and format the drive . . .
[21:56] <ubuntu> I installed Kubuntu, then installed LinuxMCE but only installed the core, now im left with evertime I start up I get the MCE manager
[21:56] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:57] <Pliskin> or QtParted if it's the kubuntu Live CD
[21:57] <julie> is there a way to configure xorg?
[21:57] <julie> !xorg
[21:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:57] <p_quarles> maco, kmail has the option to use an alternate editor, but it's not the default setting
[21:57] <p_quarles> I've never seen it ask that out of the box, honestly
[21:57] <maco> p_quarles: kmail's settings thing scares me so much i didnt change anything but add my gpg key for signing
[21:57] <ubuntu> When I hit alt cnt F1 it asked for my router  username and pass
[21:58] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:58] <ubuntu> so now I figure ill just formate and start all over
[21:58] <Pliskin> latitu_ : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> latitu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> darn
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> too late ;)
[21:58] <latitu_> thx
[21:58] <Pliskin> :)
[21:58] <ubuntu> is gparted in the live CD or is that a command?
[21:59] <Pliskin> it's a gui :)
[21:59] <ubuntu> lol as you can see im a total newb =/
[21:59] <Pliskin> but you have to use QtParted instead if it's the kubuntu Live CD
[21:59] <p_quarles> maco, that's definitely weird; maybe just delete ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc?
[22:00] <ubuntu> sweet found Qtparted
[22:00] <Pliskin> ubuntu : gui = graphical user interface
[22:01] <maco> p_quarles: and now it says it cant send emails with SMTP using the same settings with which evolution succeeds -_-
[22:01] <latitu_> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde
[22:01] <latitu_> Package `kde' is not installed and no info is available.
[22:01] <latitu_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[22:01] <latitu_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[22:01] <p_quarles> latitu_, kde is a meta-package; kubuntu uses a different one called kubuntu-desktop
[22:01] <p_quarles> reconfiguring it wouldn't do anything, though
[22:02] <Pliskin> latitu_ : you have to reconfigure xorg, not kde
[22:02] <maco> p_quarles: do you know how to just encrypt the file so i can attach it to an email in gmail and use gedit with the seahorse plugin to encrypt a message that i can then copy and paste into the body?
[22:02] <latitu_> Pliskin ok
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, gpg -r "recipient_identifier" --encrypt /path/to/file
[22:03] <maco> p_quarles: what's recipient identifier? their key id?
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, add the --armor argument if you want it in ascii instead of binary
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, anything that's associated with their public key and is unique, so the key id would work
[22:03] <maco> p_quarles: its a pdf. i think binary makes sense
[22:04] <ubuntu> if i formate the drive as NTFS will that work with linux?
[22:04] <maco> ubuntu: yes
[22:04] <Pliskin> No
[22:04] <maco> Pliskin: ntfs-3g
[22:04] <p_quarles> ubuntu, depends on what you mean by "work with"
[22:04] <Pliskin> you can read and write but for the / partition, you have to use the EXT3 system
[22:04] <p_quarles> read/write, yes, install linux on it: no
[22:04] <maco> or ext2 or reiser or xfs
[22:04] <Pliskin> +1 p_quarles
[22:04] <maco> or jfs
[22:05] <ubuntu> I have 2 drives, one i want to install ubuntu/LinuxMCE on other i want to store media on
[22:05] <maco> media storage can be NTFS just fine
[22:05] <ubuntu> ok then the other i do ntfs-3g?
[22:05] <maco> Pliskin: "no valid openpgp data found"
[22:06] <maco> h
[22:06] <maco> oh oops
[22:06] <maco> and that was at p_quarles
[22:06] <p_quarles> maco, well, the tutorial I read indicates you have to sign the recipients key before you can encrypt it for them
[22:06] <Pliskin> ubuntu : why not ext3 (or reiserfs) ?
[22:07] <ubuntu> ext3 for both will work?
[22:08] <p_quarles> ubuntu, yes -- the only reason to use ntfs is if you use Windows frequently with the drive
[22:08] <ubuntu> I had vista... which is why I am here now =)
[22:09] <sidux> im taking a look at kubuntu as a somewhat new linux user, and i had a couple questions. is kubuntu as powerful a kde desktop as others
[22:09] <Pliskin> ubuntu : you can use a driver on Windows tu read the ext3 partition :)
[22:09] <p_quarles> sidux, powerful? for what purpose?
[22:10] <josivan_> not
[22:10] <josivan_> ok
[22:11] <sidux> ive been doing some research on kde and gnome to find which i like better and kde for me is just as useable but more options are offered to me and i can do more where as in gnome it seems those options are hidden
[22:11] <maco> p_quarles: i screwed up and forgot the --encrypt part
[22:11] <maco> p_quarles: works fine :P
[22:11] <maco> Pliskin: only for xp...i dont think the driver works for vista
[22:12] <josivan_> sorre
[22:12] <sidux> and id seen some things concerning kubuntu where stuff had been simplified or stripped down and thought id ask some kubuntu users thier thoughts
[22:12] <windol> ninguém está entendendo nada do que estou digitando aqui né?
[22:12] <ubuntu> in QTparted, I select the volume, do a format (Ext3) then the bar turns purple but it does not seem to do anything
[22:13] <p_quarles> sidux, KDE in Ubuntu is almost unchanged from Debian -- everything's there, very little is added from the default release
[22:13] <p_quarles> !br | windol
[22:13] <ubotu> windol: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:13] <josivan_> e verdade
[22:14] <Pliskin> ubuntu : apply the changes
[22:14] <josivan_> brasileiro
[22:14] <Pliskin> (excuse my english)
[22:14] <rysiek|pl> !br | josivan_
[22:14] <ubotu> josivan_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:15] <ubuntu> apply changes did the trick =)
[22:15] <Earthwings> dylan_: i played around with xorg configuration, modelines and the like still work here
[22:16] <XenThraL> hi, can anyone tell me if its ok to use GPL'ed fonts in a closed source app?
[22:17] <Pliskin> if it's LGPL, yes
[22:17] <XenThraL> the font?
[22:17] <Pliskin> yes
[22:18] <XenThraL> and if its GPL'ed, I'd have to GPL my app?
[22:18] <ubuntu> Why is it that after you formate the drive there is still  9gb of 200 still used?
[22:19] <Pliskin> XenThraL : exactly
[22:21] <sourcemaker_> is there a tasbar like apple for kde?
[22:22] <p_quarles> sourcemaker_, like the OS X dock? yes, kooldock
[22:22] <Earthwings> XenThraL: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException
[22:22] <sourcemaker_> p_quarles: i have tested kooldock... but it's not like the apple's one :-)
[22:23] <sourcemaker_> p_quarles: i like the 3D lock ind leopard :-)
[22:23] <XenThraL> Earthwings: yeah I had read that
[22:23] <XenThraL> it confused me more
[22:23] <XenThraL> :|
[22:23] <p_quarles> well, not exactly, no -- the development version (on kde-apps.org) is much better, but still not 3D really
[22:23] <p_quarles> AWN works fine with KDE, though, if you don't mind the dependencies
[22:24] <jparishy> Okay, so my computer dualboots both kubuntu and osx, and recently i resized my harddrive and now i can't get kubuntu to boot (it doesn't show up in the menu when i hold option on startup). Now, i am currently in a kubuntu livecd. any suggestions on what to do to fix this?
[22:25] <ManuP> jparishy, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.list and the output of sudo fdisk -l
[22:25] <Earthwings> XenThraL: depends on how you use the fonts in your software
[22:25] <XenThraL> opengl app
[22:25] <ManuP> jparishy, the bootloader is grup, or is it from osx??
[22:25] <ManuP> s/grup/grub
[22:26] <XenThraL> will make textures out of the font, then use the textures
[22:26] <jparishy> i usually use the osx loader, and then when i select linux, it starts up grub and boots linux
[22:26] <INIT_6> Installed the new 8.04 kubuntu. I have a nvidia 7600gs video card. I installed the drivers using the "Hardware Drivers Manager" under system. Told it to use the driver. Still couldn't change the rez past 640x.  So I tried the nvidia-settings tool. Still no luck. I turned it off in hardware drivers manager. Installed the driver by hand using the driver from nvidia's website. still no luck. any suggestions?
[22:26] <Earthwings> XenThraL: if you ship the gpl font as part of the program and the font does not have such an exception (see link), i'd say you cannot do that
[22:26] <Earthwings> XenThraL: otherwise i don't know :)
[22:26] <jparishy> This isn't the same computer, so give me a second to paste the above thins.
[22:26] <jparishy> things*
[22:27] <XenThraL> really shady part of the GPL
[22:27] <ManuP> jparishy, and the osx-loader doesnt show grub or does grub show up but without the entry for kubuntu?
[22:27] <XenThraL> no one can tell me anything for sure
[22:27] <jparishy> It doesn't show grub
[22:27] <Earthwings> XenThraL: i'm afraid you have to pay a lawyer for that
[22:27] <XenThraL> I can't afford a font :p
[22:27] <jparishy> Hm, something is wrong with the output of sudo fdisk -l
[22:28] <coggz>  can i get a copy of xp tablet pc edition? an iso? i have a licence key
[22:28] <Earthwings> hehe
[22:28] <ManuP> jparishy, so it has to do sth. with the osx-bootloader. sorry. i can not help you with this.
[22:28] <Earthwings> XenThraL: i'm sure there are some in the public domain or similar?
[22:28] <XenThraL> its hard to tell for sure when they are
[22:28] <ManuP> jparishy, what's wrong with the output?
[22:29] <jparishy> I'm thinking a fresh install of grub may help things, but I don't know how to do it. How would I reinstall it?
[22:29] <jparishy> Well
[22:29] <ManuP> jparishy, i can tell you that
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: what does fdisk -l say?
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: can you mount the partition from the livecd?
[22:29] <jparishy> It says "GPT detected on '/dev/sda'! ... doesn't support it, use gnu parted"
[22:29] <jparishy> Yes, i can mount it
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: if not, grub won't be able to do anything
[22:29] <jparishy> and fdisk only shows /dev/sda1
[22:30] <jparishy> but all of them are there in /dev/
[22:30] <jparishy> /dev/sda1-4
[22:30] <Earthwings> GPT?
[22:30] <ManuP> Earthwings, right. i dont know what this is too
[22:30] <jparishy> (GUID Partition Table)
[22:30] <jparishy> ^^ from fdisk
[22:31] <ManuP> jparishy, did you pastebin the whole output of fdisk -l ?
[22:31] <jparishy> eh, give me too seconds. I'll be right back.
[22:33] <jparishy`> http://rafb.net/p/Puj7DT85.html
[22:34] <INIT_6> when you are using a glx or glx-new nvidia driver in the xorg.conf file to the right of driver should it be NV or NVIDIA?
[22:34] <jparishy`> That's the output for sudo fdisk -l
[22:34] <shaffy> can someone correct this fstab line for me?  i'm trying to mount my external usb hd (ext3).  "UUID=872ffa39-31e0-4c07-953d-b42bce34022c /0moon ext3 defaults,utf8,dmask=000,fmask=111,uid=0,auto,rw 0 1"
[22:35] <shaffy> i think the utf8 should not be there?
[22:35] <ManuP> jparishy, it is somehow weird that a dual-boot pc has only one partition...
[22:36] <jparishy> Right?
[22:36] <jparishy> http://rafb.net/p/76DRMH75.html
[22:36] <jparishy> /dev/sda1 - /dev/sda4
[22:36] <jparishy> They are there
[22:36] <jparishy> And I can mount it.
[22:38] <jparishy> ist
[22:38] <jparishy> Sorry, wrong window.
[22:38] <ManuP> jparishy, you german?
[22:38] <jparishy> No
[22:38] <ManuP> jparishy, i dont know what to do that fdisk shows the partition table correctly.
[22:39] <ManuP> jparishy, i think that during resizing sth. went wrong.
[22:39] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -s /dev/sda3
[22:39] <jparishy> 25406797
[22:39] <jparishy> That's right.
[22:39] <ManuP> jparishy, if you want, i can tell you how to reinstall grub from live-cd. but i dont know if this is a good idea since the partition table seems to be broken
[22:41] <jparishy> qtparted shows the partition table just fine
[22:42] <ManuP> jparishy, well, then you might try reinstalling grub
[22:42] <jparishy> So how do you do it?
[22:43] <ManuP> jparishy, mount the hd with the boot-directory on. like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[22:44] <jparishy> mhm
[22:44] <rakan> Hello, is there a form designer for wxWidgets on KDevelop:
[22:44] <rakan> ?
[22:45] <ManuP> jparishy, mount the devices: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[22:45] <jparishy> k
[22:45] <ManuP> jparishy, then: sudo -o bind -t proc /proc /mnt/proc (2 more steps...)
[22:46] <jparishy> is that, "sudo mount ..."
[22:46] <jparishy> ?
[22:46] <ManuP> jparishy, yeah. sorry that i missed that
[22:46] <jparishy> np
[22:47] <jparishy> okay
[22:47] <ManuP> jparishy, chroot to mnt: sudo chroot /mnt    in the chroot, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> rakan: I doubt it... there is a Python IDE for that though
[22:47] <ManuP> jparishy, that should it be
[22:47] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[22:47] <jparishy> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:48] <jparishy> was i supposed to bind /bin too?
[22:48] <ManuP> jparishy, no
[22:48] <jparishy> Was that error supposed to happen then?
[22:48] <ManuP> jparishy, no
[22:49] <jparishy> :P
[22:49] <jparishy> What then?
[22:49] <ManuP> ^^
[22:49] <jparishy> So just run grub-install?
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> what are you doing?
[22:49] <jparishy> reinstalling grub from inside a livecd
[22:49] <ManuP> jparishy, it is important to run it with the device on which you want to install.
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt works better In my experience
[22:50] <jparishy> And that is hda, not sda3?
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> well, then it would be sda
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> adapt it for your particulat setup..
[22:51] <julie> help help
[22:51] <jparishy> Ah, okay. Gotcha
[22:51] <julie> I can't get rid of a language on my kde system..
[22:51] <julie> the kmenu is in persian
[22:51] <sisa> zdravím je tu někdo kdo mluví časky?
[22:51] <julie> i HAVE REMOVED the language
[22:51] <ManuP> jparishy, did it work without the chroot and specifying --root-directory?
[22:52] <jparishy> no
[22:52] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt
[22:52] <jparishy> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[22:52] <jparishy> Could not find device for /mnt/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[22:52] <julie> how do i get the language to change back to the original enlish please
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> oh.... you don't even have the grub files THERE...
[22:53] <ManuP> jparishy, try /dev/sda# where # is the number on which the /boot dir is
[22:53] <jparishy> Okay :P
[22:53] <Arrow_> Hi all
[22:53] <jparishy> Same error, ManuP
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> no..... DON"t do that!
[22:53] <jparishy> but if was to mount /dev/sda3, /boot/grub/ is there...
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> that turns that partition into a boot partition.
[22:54] <jparishy> It should be shouldn't it?
[22:54] <julie> can anyone help
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> no
[22:54] <jparishy> Well, it didsn't work anyway. Same error passing /dev/sda3
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: do mount it.... mount it to /mnt
[22:55] <jparishy> i have it mounted to /mnt/kubuntu atm
[22:55] <ManuP> jparishy, i got the error with block-device when i didnt chroot. but you can not chroot...
[22:55] <ManuP> jparishy, and you substituted /mnt all the time with /mnt/kubuntu ?
[22:55] <Arrow_> Hey I can't seem to get Kubuntu-KDE4 Desktop ot alt 64 bit to boot on my new Phenom machine..keeps saying kernel is corrupt
[22:55] <jparishy> And I have /dev binded to /mnt/dev and /proc binded to /mnt/proc
[22:56] <jparishy> :|
[22:56] <julie>  helelel
[22:56] <jparishy> no
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: gutsy or hardy?
[22:56] <jparishy> okay, let me do this one more time
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: lol
[22:56] <ManuP> jparishy, you have to mount /dev to /mnt/kubuntu then
[22:56] <Arrow_> hardy
[22:56] <ManuP> and /proc to /mnt/kubuntu/proc ^^
[22:56] <ManuP> jparishy, if you change things, change them right.
[22:56] <Arrow_> sorry forgot that piece
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: try "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt/kubuntu
[22:57] <tiberius1701> hey i kinda new to linux, but have used irc in windows (mirc), is it normal to show my ip here in konversation, aint that kinda bad?
[22:57] <Arrow_> I can boot hardy 32
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: is that the RC or a daily live?
[22:57] <sisa> potřeboval bych poradit ale česky pokuď možne.
[22:57] <Arrow_> RC...the one with the KDE4
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: you can mask it somehow... not sure how if you aren't affiliated with a org
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: ok, then  go to #ubuntu+1
[22:58] <jparishy> Okay, grub installation finished.
[22:58] <jparishy> Now reboot?
[22:58] <tiberius1701> ok ill google it she what i get
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[22:59] <ManuP> jparishy, yeah
[22:59] <jparishy> okay, reboot it is.
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: but i'm sure windopws did that to you too
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: I think there is an unaffiliated mask....
[22:59] <ManuP> jparishy, you will have to get partition table right i think...
[22:59] <jparishy> Is it safe to unmount everyting i mounted before reboot?
[23:00] <ManuP> jparishy, you can do that, but dont need.
[23:00] <jparishy> k
[23:00] <ManuP> jparishy, just sudo reboot
[23:00] <tiberius1701> i really cant remember in windows if it did it or not, i just happened to notice it now
[23:00] <Ketrel> I'm at a loss. I've changed everywhere I can think of, but my moniter still blanks after X ammount time. Could there be anywhere I'm missing?
[23:00] <jparishy> i'm out, i'll probably be back :P
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> ok
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: guidance-power-manager?
[23:02] <julie> can anyone help please
[23:02] <Ketrel> nosrednaekim: Only set to do something when batter is low
[23:02] <Ketrel> not set to do anything on idle
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: better check in there what the settings are for blanking the screen
[23:03] <julie> I have changed the language to persian then tried to change it back but its stuck on persian .. I have restarted kdm and x but no use.. any ideas?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: ah.. never mind.
[23:03] <julie> help
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> julie: log in, go to system settings andchange it back
[23:06] <julie> nosrednaekim: yes that is goooood but it dosen't wok
[23:06] <julie> work
[23:07] <xanax`> hello
[23:07] <julie> damn it damn it
[23:07] <xanax`> does anyone know where I could find a Kubuntu 8.04 vmware image ?
[23:07] <julie> this is why I moved
[23:07] <julie> jdjdjdjk]#'
[23:07] <jparisshy> Nope :|
[23:08] <p_quarles> xanax`, doesn't vmware's site have one?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: what happened?
[23:08] <sisa> hello. Please needed any program in connection at phone mauger infra
[23:09] <xanax`> it has 7.10
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> julie: make a new user and log in as him :)
[23:09] <jparishy> just went and booted up osx
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: you are on a mac?
[23:09] <jparishy> yes
[23:10] <sisa> just went and booted up osx
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: hum, I think grub does not work with them...
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> !mac
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:11] <julie> nosrednaekim: thats not a fix
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> julie: uhh, yeah it is
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> julie: do you use kmail or konqueror?
[23:13] <julie> nosrednaekim: you don't even know what m,y problem is
[23:14] <jparishy> Gah.
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> julie: yes I do, just answer the question
[23:14] <jparishy> Sorry, I just don't have the time to keep doing this.
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: google up a install guide for macs....
[23:14] <julie> the default language is set to uk english but i can still see persian
[23:14] <jparishy> By the way, nosrednaekim: This worked before, i recently resized on of the partitions, and since then it doesn't work.
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> oh... ok
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> I think it sounds like a Mac problem personally
[23:17] <julie> nosrednaekim: kmail and konqueror are two different programs
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> julie: I know, but they both store configs in .kde
[23:19] <ManuP> jparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader
[23:19] <poseidon> I have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f
[23:19] <poseidon> 8.04
[23:19] <julie> nosrednaekim: what are you getting at
[23:19] <ManuP> jparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> julie: erasing your configuration files
[23:21] <julie> this is clearly a bug..
[23:21] <julie> it should be fixed
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> julie: so? do you use them?
[23:23] <julie> I do
[23:23] <jparishy> Sorry, for some reason my macbook isn't charging so when i unplugged it, it turned off
[23:24] <shaffy> can someone help me with my fstab of an external harddrive?  "LABEL=Biggie /0moon ext3 auto,users,rw 0 1";  for some reason tho, i can't write
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> julie: err, forget erasing all the configs then.... just a minute and I'll try finding the correct file
[23:25] <ManuP> jparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader
[23:25] <ManuP> jparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...
[23:25] <zero88> Can someonoe tell me how to power a device with a usb port. I have my mp3 connected that way and it doesnt seem like its powering it.
[23:25] <ManuP> that was what i wrote last
[23:25] <jparishy> no worries
[23:26] <ManuP> zero88, the 5V of usb should always be on the cable.
[23:27] <ManuP> gn8
[23:27] <zero88> ManuP, Hmm. Doesnt seem like it is. Is there a way to verify?
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> Wasn't sometime back, kubuntu was having a contest on a new website design? What is the latest on that?
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: should come up with hardy
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> I think
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: I hope so... They should use oxygen style icons :)
[23:43] <shaffy> is anyone able to help me with my fstab mount permissions for my external ext3 formatted HD?  i can't seem to write.  "LABEL=ExtHD /extHD ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 1
[23:46] <poseidon> I have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f
[23:46] <poseidon> I'm using kubuntu 8.04
[23:48] <julie>  the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian, kde menu is stuck on persian
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> julie: you will have to log out for all changes to take effect
[23:50] <julie> Odd-rationale: I have done that
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: I had a similar problem
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: I solved it by reformating with mkfs.ext3: mkfs.ext3 -L <youdisklabelhere> /dev/<device>
[23:52] <julie> help
[23:52] <julie> please I can't fix this problem
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: be sure it is unmounted before trying that commnad though
[23:53] <oldmanemu> poseidon: according to your pastebin, your wifi is working.
[23:54] <poseidon> oldmanemu, thats what I was told earlier, however I don't have any sort of internet connection
[23:55] <ghittsum> I just installed kubuntu, does anyone know how you login as root, and what its default password is?
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> !sudo | ghittsum
[23:55] <ubotu> ghittsum: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[23:55] <haker> is it possible in anyway to use visualbasic?
[23:55] <oldmanemu> poseidon: right click the icon in your system tray and click the wireless network you want connect to !
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> !root | ghittsum
[23:55] <ubotu> ghittsum: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:55] <ghittsum> lol
[23:55] <ghittsum> thanks
[23:55] <poseidon> oldmanemu, I tried, and it failed.  It says that it has a signal strenght of -1
[23:56] <oldmanemu> poseidon: how far away is your router?
[23:57] <hari_seldon99> Hi. I just upgraded my kubuntu kernel and now the KDE popup for USB devices doesn't how when I plug my thumbdrive in (although /var/log/messsages shows detection)
[23:57] <poseidon> oldmanemu, close enough.  I averaged about 800-900 kb/s downloading kubuntu with the router
[23:57] <hari_seldon99> *doesn't show
[23:59] <oldmanemu> poseidon: I know this maybe a silly q. but is the antenna connected to the wifi card?