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crimsunstani: either.00:16
warp10Hi all00:22
stanicrimsun: thanks, are you a MOTU?00:24
crimsunstani: sure, what do you need?00:24
staniwell, I just added a debdiff to Bug #219558 which ScottK just acked00:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219558 in phatch "Integer error with shadow effect" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21955800:25
staniI don't know if you feel like sponsoring it00:25
crimsun(looking at it now)00:27
stanicrimsun: which team should I subscribe? (I didn't do that yet.)00:27
staniI've tested that the bug occurred without the patch and that it was solved with the patch00:28
staniIf you want to reproduce the bug I have to sent you an image by email as it was not allowed to be published on launchpad00:29
staniShould I subscribe u-u-s?00:31
bbyeveryes00:32
flavorjoneshi - don't know if this issue is on anyone's radar for final release, but #203679 might be something to consider. has a patch attached.00:32
crimsunstani: uploaded, thanks00:33
crimsunstani: please remember to reference the bug that is fixed (I added it pre-rebuild)00:33
stanicrimsun: yes, I forgot in the changelog. did you add it there? (I don't understand pre-build)00:35
stanicrimsun: is it not better to leave a comment that you uploaded it on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phatch/+bug/219558 or do you want me to do it?00:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219558 in phatch "Integer error with shadow effect" [Undecided,In progress]00:36
staniflavorjones: you better write bug #203679, so ubuto gives the details00:38
crimsunstani: it's in the unapproved queue (https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=); just need to poke an archive admin00:38
stanigreat, thanks! if you don't mind I leave a comment about this as otherwise maybe pochu tries to upload it again00:40
crimsunstani: sure, be my guest :-)00:42
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stanicrimsun: ok, done thanks a lot ;-)00:44
stanicrimsun: bye, need to go00:49
bauglirThere seems to be an alien pubic hair in my Gin.00:50
emgentheya01:06
flavorjonesstani: sorry about that. i was referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/20367901:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203679 in hal "hald-addon-inpu making 100%-cpu-usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:32
flavorjonesthere is a two-line patch attached, and the bug is severe for those who experience it.01:33
HobbseeScottK: there are 3 bugs, and it fixes 2.02:02
FujitsuScottK: Thanks for the preemptive pdns-recursor ack. I was going to request it later today.02:12
FujitsuHobbsee: Can you push things through the queue yet?02:14
HobbseeFujitsu: yes02:14
FujitsuHobbsee: Goody. I'll have a few more uploads today that could do with being kicked in ASAP.02:18
HobbseeFujitsu: k02:18
HobbseeFujitsu: well, assuming it hasn't broken again, yeah02:18
FujitsuHobbsee: OK to upload http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13386085/hardy_audit_1.6.5-0ubuntu3.debdiff?03:18
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FujitsuAnybody feel like looking at bug #219772?03:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219772 in python-qt4 "Missing Conflicts with pyqt4-dev-tools" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21977203:46
Hobbseetasty.03:47
crimsunerr, tasty LP.03:49
crimsunI think I missed a memo.03:49
FujitsuHah.03:50
FujitsuUpgrading a complete Gutsy system to Hardy is proving to be rather challenging.03:50
FujitsuIt keeps spontaneously dieing for no obvious reason.03:50
FujitsuAnd takes a good few minutes to calculate dependencies.03:50
HobbseeFujitsu: dude....03:52
FujitsuWhat?03:52
HobbseeFujitsu: where exactly did you pull pyqt4-dev-tools from?03:52
FujitsuGutsy somewhere.03:52
FujitsuUnless mvo slipped it into the dist-upgrader.03:52
HobbseeFujitsu: oh right.  so this wasn't a direct dapper to hardy dist upgrade?03:52
Hobbseelike the bug indicates.03:53
FujitsuNo, it was Gutsy->Hardy03:53
FujitsuOh.03:53
FujitsuI mistyped.03:53
HobbseeFujitsu: looks like those files should be dropped from -dev-tools03:54
Hobbseeoh, hang on03:54
FujitsuCan't do that.03:54
FujitsuIt's in Gutsy.03:54
FujitsuI presume,.03:55
Hobbseeyeah, just realised it wasn't an all hardy problem03:55
HobbseeYou have searched for filenames that contain libpythonplugin.so in suite gutsy, all sections, and all architectures.03:55
HobbseeSorry, your search gave no results03:55
FujitsuHmmm.03:55
FujitsuSo maybe -dev-tools was upgraded earlier.03:56
HobbseeFujitsu: i've not yet found the release where -dev-tools contains libpythonplugin.so03:59
Hobbseeit's not dapper, gutsy, or hardy.03:59
Hobbseenor feisty, nor edgy....03:59
Hobbseeunofficial repos somewhere?  maybe kde4 ones from kubuntu.org or something?04:00
Fujitsu4.3-2ubuntu7.104:01
FujitsuLooks like gutsy-updates, but LP is being slow.04:02
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Hobbseeoh, so it doesn't do -updates04:02
HobbseeFujitsu: rmadison ftw.04:02
Hobbseeoh, not by default04:03
HobbseeFujitsu: looks like tonio had some concerns about it at the time04:05
FujitsuI'm trying to see details, but LP simply isn't responding.04:06
FujitsuYou know what we could probably do with? Waiving of the SRU waiting period for missing Conflicts/Replaces issues.04:07
FujitsuHobbsee: Did you see my message at ~12:18?04:12
HobbseeFujitsu: erm, not sure.  feel free to resend04:14
* Hobbsee can look up logs, though04:14
Fujitsu12:18:41 < Fujitsu> Hobbsee: OK to upload http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13386085/hardy_audit_1.6.5-0ubuntu3.debdiff?04:14
FujitsuHmm, can I make aptitude not read changelogs during a dist-upgrade? It takes about an hour.04:15
HobbseeFujitsu: oh, sorry.  yes, that's fine04:16
FujitsuThanks.04:16
HobbseeFujitsu: i think i even had that open, before my system went down.04:20
FujitsuHeh.04:21
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crimsunHobbsee: ok.05:23
crimsundang, didn't even notice that was in #launchpad.05:23
Hobbseehehe05:24
crimsunFujitsu: ubuntu4 is the one that actually builds in the buildd's allocated memory.05:32
crimsunubuntu3 takes something like 6.5 GB RAM05:33
FujitsuAh05:34
FujitsuNot bad.05:34
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Fujitsucrimsun: Can the buffer changes in bug #216397 cause anything to explode? It'd be nice to get them into Hardy, as they make SDL PulseAudio output usable.07:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216397 in libsdl1.2 "sdl patch for better pulseaudio support" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21639707:23
* jussio1 gets annoyed at whoever changed the sender name for revu stuff...07:27
FujitsuWhat did it change from/to?07:27
siretartjussi01: that would have been sistpoty and/or me07:43
jussio1siretart: could you not put revu in front of it? so its more visable? :/07:44
siretartjussio1: put what in front of what? what problem do you want to solve?07:45
jussio1siretart: currently I get messages from: "This user is only for the REVU service. contact root on problems" its long and ugly :/07:47
siretartplease more details07:47
siretartis that an email? do you get them via the mailing list?07:48
jussio1siretart: thats teh revu update ml07:48
jussio1siretart: when someone comments, you get a message from www data. when someone updates a package, you get a message from that...07:49
siretartjussio1: I need to move the mailman mailing list from my private server (freiburg.tauware.de) to the ubuntuwire mailman installation07:57
siretartjussio1: I will review that issue with that occasion07:57
jussio1siretart: thanks :)07:57
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Laibschgood morning10:07
LaibschHow do I delete http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=anki ?10:07
Laibschanki is in debian now10:07
geserLaibsch: anki is now archived on revu10:31
Laibschgeser: What do you mean?  That once it is uploaded, there is no way to delete it?10:33
LaibschThat'd be a waste of valuable contributor's time when looking through packages long obsoleted by official uploads10:34
LaibschNo, it seems to be an explicit process -> good!10:35
LaibschCan I initiate that process myself?10:35
siretartLaibsch: only reviewers can archive uploads10:53
siretartperhaps we should allow that uploaders on their own packages as well. patches welcome10:53
Laibschyes, I guess that would make sense10:56
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DreadKnightheya14:58
DreadKnightcan someone pack plone 3.0.6 for the repository?14:58
DreadKnightplone package missing...14:58
DreadKnightwww.plone.org14:58
james_wDreadKnight: is it zope-cmfplone?15:00
DreadKnightjames_w: well...15:01
DreadKnightjames_w: i think so, but that version is ancient15:01
DreadKnightnobody sane would use that anymore...15:01
james_wthat package has gone away in current Debian, does that mean that plone 3 is available in Debian?15:04
DreadKnightplone 3.0.4 or something i think is available15:04
james_wdo you know what the package name is?15:05
DreadKnightlet me locate it again15:05
* DreadKnight wonders how hard will it be to pack the latest one from the site15:07
DreadKnightjames_w: http://packages.debian.org/plone15:09
JazzvaAnyone who would help me in testing teatime? It plays the sound, but my computer also locks up when teatime is running ... dunno if it's teatime, since my system has been showing up some strange behaviour lately...15:09
DreadKnight3.0.6-1:all  in lenny (testing) and sid (unstable)15:09
JazzvaOops... wrong channel15:10
james_wDreadKnight: ah, ok, that package needs to be synced then.15:11
DreadKnightjames_w: yes. but nobody on launchpad took any action beside bug triaging..15:11
james_wwhat do you mean?15:12
sebnerDreadKnight: will. release in in 4 days ...15:13
sebner*will/well15:13
DreadKnightit was reported a couple of times but nothing...15:13
DreadKnightsebner: i am running hardy if that's what you mean15:13
james_wDreadKnight: can you provide a pointer to the bug reports please?15:14
sebnerDreadKnight: yeah. So it's sure that we can't have always the newest software since there are several freezes15:14
DreadKnightsebner: i know but plone 3 it's even before gutsy...15:14
DreadKnightjames_w: one sec...15:14
DreadKnighti finally found my way of getting deb files from the packages.debian.org site xD heh15:15
* DreadKnight ~ is anyone willing to babysit me a bit so you can add one to MOTUs ?15:16
DreadKnight:-)15:16
sebnerDreadKnight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/GettingStarted ;)15:17
DreadKnightsebner: right :)15:17
DreadKnightjames_w: LP not quite loading for me today...15:17
sebnerDreadKnight: maybe better: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/15:17
DreadKnightsebner: i've bookmarked them, thanks :-)15:19
sebnerDreadKnight: np ^^. And don't worry. I'm also no MOTU (yet) ;)15:20
DreadKnightit's on my "to do" list for this year15:20
DreadKnightomg https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/ZopePlone15:22
sebnerDreadKnight: somehow outdated ^^15:22
DreadKnighti can see15:22
DreadKnightxD15:22
james_wDreadKnight: the team is on alioth15:26
james_whttp://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-zope/15:27
DreadKnightdebian zope team :P15:28
DreadKnightubuntu one is dead or something..15:28
james_wnope15:28
james_w"Debian/Ubuntu Zope/Plone team"15:28
DreadKnightok...15:29
DreadKnightjames_w: can you resync the package or something?15:30
sebnerDreadKnight: citat "Release is in 4 days"15:30
sebnerDreadKnight: you may want to request a backport15:30
DreadKnightsebner: ok, i get it xD15:31
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sebnerheya afflux :)15:49
affluxhi sebner15:50
Sebastian\sh: Will you be at Ubuntu Live?15:52
crimsunFujitsu: yes, the patch looks fine.  I'll add a note to the bug.16:06
emgentheya people16:10
crimsun'lo emgent16:14
LimCorehello17:40
LimCorecan I help to put sshfs 1.9 into hardy?  I just builded the .deb for it (amd64) it's trivial17:40
LimCoreor can someone help?  current version is unusable since it crashes often.    https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse/+bug/13751917:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137519 in sshfs-fuse "sshfs: please update to latest version (1.6 -> 1.8)" [Unknown,Fix released]17:41
james_wLimCore: not really as the release in in four days17:44
james_wit would still be possible, but you need to get a freeze exception granted.17:44
LimCorebut hardy's version is also broken17:44
LimCore10 crash reports, it crashes over daily under load17:44
james_wit's not completely broken17:45
james_wI'm not saying it shouldn't be done, it's just very late in the release cycle to be doing it.17:45
LimCorefirst reported on 2007-09-05  by  Bogdan Butnaru17:45
james_wthere is a release team that decides whether it is too late, and so they need to be consulted.17:46
james_wI realise that this request has been open for a while, and that is a shame, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still very late in the release cycle.17:46
LimCorewell... I hoped ubuntu will not allow a half-year crash bug, resulting in possible data loss, to be there for another year or so17:46
james_wI realise it is bad, I am trying to tell you who you need to speak to to try and get it sorted out.17:47
LimCoreso how to contact them17:47
james_wyou should subscribe the motu-release team to the bug and explain to them the situation as well as you can17:48
james_wnote that the .deb you provided isn't enough, as we can't actually upload that.17:48
james_wthere is a new version in debian that we can sync to get the update.17:48
james_wthis would mean that you should rebuild that version in Ubuntu and test it to make sure that it would work17:48
LimCoreSubscribe someone else to the bug report    person:   motu     like this?17:49
james_wmotu-release17:49
LimCoreok17:49
LimCorewell this change is simple, just unpack upstream's 1.9 source and done17:50
LimCorein such case is there need to provide more explanation or some files?17:50
sebnerLimCore: but that's not the way we handle updates ...17:50
james_wLimCore: you need to provide an explanation of why this update should be considered. I realise that the information is there, but having it in one message makes it much easier for the release team to evaluate.17:51
LimCoreput it there as a last comment then?17:51
james_wyes please17:52
LimCoreok I did.  hope it works :)17:58
james_wLimCore: thanks.18:01
james_wI've never seen segfaults, but I don't use it that much, is it specific to heavy uses?18:02
LimCoreI had it twice, when I tried to backup a big dir with lots of files18:02
LimCorethere are like 5-10 other crash reports18:02
sebnerLimCore: I left a comment ;)18:03
LimCoresebner: Im testing 1.9 all the time now18:04
LimCoreif it doesnt crash till tommorow it means a big improvment18:04
LimCoreupstream changelog shows dozen of crash fixes as well, between 1.7 - 1.918:05
sebnerLimCore: yeah. motu-release have to decide now18:05
james_wLimCore: adding that upstream changelog between the two versions to the bug report would be a big help.18:06
sebnerjames_w: I could do ...18:06
LimCorehmm it is there in sources actually, Changelog file18:06
sebnerLimCore: but you should maybe test the debian package since we would use it then rather than yours ;)18:07
LimCoreok I really need to work.. I lost 2 days already for hd failure, and now I can work on remote fs finally18:07
LimCorehmm how to exacly?18:07
LimCorethis one  http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/sshfs  ?  Package: sshfs (1.9-1)18:08
LimCoreI should just install the amd64 binary .deb from there?18:09
james_wsebner: thanks, please do.18:09
james_wLimCore: please download the source package and recompile it.18:09
james_wLimCore: install devscripts, and then run "dget -x http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sshfs-fuse/sshfs-fuse_1.9-1.dsc"18:09
sebnerjames_w: It would be nice if you could test the package. I already prepared all the necessary files. But your knowledge is deeper than mine so thanks ..18:10
james_wthen cd to the created directory and run "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" and then install the .deb from the parent directory.18:10
james_wsebner: I'll try and find some time tomorrow to test it.18:10
sebnerjames_w: thanks :)18:11
JazzvaCould someone review the patch for teatime? It wasn't playing sound, so I fixed that and changed popup hide function, so it also stops the sound on popup hide. bug 19054718:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 190547 in teatime "teatime doesn't play sounds" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19054718:13
sebnerJazzva: you may also want to subscribe motu-release ;)18:16
Jazzvasebner: Right :)... Thanks18:16
sebnernp18:17
Jazzvaand done18:17
james_wJazzva: please remove all of the unnecessary changes18:20
james_whttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-April/003543.html18:21
Jazzvajames_w: Ok...18:22
james_walso, have you sent this patch to Debian or upstream?18:22
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JazzvaNot sure if it works in Debian, so I still need to test it. The only way I can think of is to install Debian :).18:23
JazzvaI will contact upstream to see if he is having this bug on his system.18:23
Jazzva*he/she18:24
james_wyeah, speaking to upstream is probably best here.18:24
Jazzvajames_w: I cleaned the patch.18:29
james_wJazzva: thanks18:34
JazzvaThank you for help and review :)...18:35
james_wno problem, good luck getting your change in18:35
JazzvaThanks :)18:35
sebnerjames_w: thumps up for you good support :)18:37
sebner*your18:39
JazzvaTeatime upstream stopped the development on it. Anyway, I forwarded the patch to include it, if upstream likes it.18:46
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siretartslomo_: would you please join #xine/oftc?19:10
albert23Could somebody please sponsor bug 208140? Motu-release acked and opendict currently fails to start completely.20:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208140 in opendict "missing dependency python-xml in opendict package (Ubuntu Hardy Beta)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20814020:17
crimsunalbert23: sec.20:25
albert23crimsun: Thanks20:25
crimsunalbert23: bug report modified, thanks.20:32
albert23crimsun: Thanks again :-)20:34
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beasty_hi23:03
beasty_anyone know how i build a fast '(n)curses' installer ?23:04
lagafor what?23:09
beasty_a bash script i wrote23:09
beasty_that installs ldap support on our local clients23:10
beasty_but it needs a few params23:10
Fujitsubeasty_: If you're making a Debian package, use debconf.23:12
Jazzvaautomake related question ... The upstream provided both Makefile.in and Makefile.am in the sources. When I don't run automake in configure rule, the package builds and runs ok. But, if automake is called, it regenerates Makefile.am (I suppose), builds ok and then fails to start. The pkg is gnome-voice-control, a gnome panel applet. Is it ok if I just use the provide Makefile.am?23:30
FujitsuYou should use the provided Makefile.am.23:30
JazzvaFujitsu: Thanks :). I will...23:31
FujitsuYou shouldn't ever do anything else, unless the existing one causes problems.23:31
stanicrimsun, ScottK, pochu: do you think latest phatch patch can still be approved? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=phatch23:32
JazzvaWell, I didn't do it in the first place. It was done somewhere between now and my last submission to that package :).23:32
JazzvaFujitsu: But, just asking, to be sure :)23:32
ScottKstani: Is this the one we talked about yesterday?23:33
staniyes23:33
stanicrimsun uploaded it and set it still needed approval from an admin23:33
ScottKThen it's just a matter of waiting for a release manager to approve it.23:34
ScottKThere's nothing more for us to do.23:34
FujitsuScottK: Can you please attack bug #216397 with an axe, so I can get it in before I go to uni?23:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216397 in libsdl1.2 "sdl patch for better pulseaudio support" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21639723:35
staniScottK: thanks, just wanted to know23:35
ScottKFujitsu: An axe or an ack?23:36
ScottKThe latter is easier is I don't have to go search in the garage.23:36
FujitsuEither.23:36
ScottKFujitsu: Ack is done.23:36
FujitsuThanks.23:36
Fujitsucrimsun: Do you see any point in the environment variable changes in that patch?23:37
beasty_Fujitsu: ok i'll take a look at it23:43
RiddellScottK: if people have specific requests for things to approve before slangasek shows up they can ask me23:48
ScottKRiddell: THanks.  I don't think anything specific is critical, just people getting generally nervous.23:49
FujitsuWhen is the real final freeze, where it's completely frozen? It has historically been up to 24 hours before.23:53
ScottKFor Gutsy we froze on Monday.23:56

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