[00:21] <fta> mozilla bug 425814
[00:21] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 425814 in Reporter ""Report Broken Web Site..." Broken with Adblock Plus or No Script" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425814
[00:30] <Jazzva> fta, sorry, I was away for a while, so I didn't look a lot. Though, I noticed something strange - there's an audio sink, which is not used in the procedure which is supposed to play the song. That might be the reason (I don't know yet how do you play a song :))...
[00:30] <fta> Jazzva, you mean, how to test ?
[00:32] <Jazzva> Nope. I'm looking into gstreamer docs to see what do you need to code in order to play a sond
[00:32] <Jazzva> *song
[00:32] <fta> ph
[00:32] <fta> oh
[00:33] <Jazzva> though, I might be wrong :)... Still learning :)
[00:38] <Sergeant_Pony> Jazzva was it you I talked to last night about my tb and lightning freezing?
[00:38] <Jazzva> Sergeant_Pony: A bit ...
[00:39] <Sergeant_Pony> Jazzva: ok, cool. I have things running good. so far no freezes and the calendar doesn't lock things up either. saw that I was missing a required package.
[00:40] <Sergeant_Pony> did some research on the website
[00:40] <fta> what required package ?
[00:40] <Jazzva> Sergeant_Pony: Umm, that's wrong if the package wasn't installed ... What's the package that was needed and which one needed it :)?
[00:40] <Jazzva> *wasn't auto-installed
[00:40] <Sergeant_Pony> 1 sec
[00:40] <Jazzva> k
[00:41] <fta> how come it wasn't dragged in by apt during install?
[00:41] <Jazzva> Missing depend?
[00:42] <Sergeant_Pony> libstdc++5  says libstdc++6 is installed by default on newer linux systems
[00:42] <Sergeant_Pony> I put in 5 and all is working great
[00:43] <Jazzva> And which package needed it?
[00:43] <Sergeant_Pony> I know the calendar needed it.. not sure about tb itself
[00:43] <fta> hardy ?
[00:44] <Sergeant_Pony> all I know is it doesn't freeze anymore.
[00:44] <Sergeant_Pony> yes hardy
[00:44] <Jazzva> Both lightning-extension and thunderbird depend on libstdc++6, but not on 5... fta, I suppose you know more :)
[00:44] <Sergeant_Pony> went by the website
[00:45] <Sergeant_Pony> (Many modern Linux distributions only package libstdc++6, which is incompatible with Lightning. Therefore please install the package "libstdc++5" or "compat-libstdc++" on your system before  installing Lightning)
[00:46] <Sergeant_Pony> version 0.8
[00:47] <fta> I don't do lightning, asac does it, you should either file a bug on lp or tell him when he's back
[00:47] <Sergeant_Pony> ok...
[03:15] <mfe> thanks for hardening my browser!
[03:16] <mfe> it's like having my own personal IT department
[03:18] <Jazzva> fta, found the place where it stops... After disabling patch 90_...something.patch it plays the sound, but it doesn't stop it :)
[03:18] <fta> hm
[03:19] <Jazzva> Well, it initialized that audio sink, but not where I thought it should initialize... anyway, now to learn about sinks :)
[03:20] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff4.png
[03:21] <fta> but 0 extension
[03:21] <Jazzva> Hehe :)
[03:21] <Jazzva> Nice...
[03:22] <fta> as it's on par with 3.0pre, i guess I can massively bump all my extensions
[03:22] <Jazzva> go for it :)
[03:23] <fta> I'll script that tomorrow
[03:25] <[reed]> lol
[03:25] <[reed]> there's no point in using Fx4 for a while ;)
[03:25] <Jazzva> it's a pretty number :)
[03:25] <fta> i wanted to update my toolchain
[03:28] <fta> i've packaged it so it could be used along with ff3, not sharing the profile
[03:29] <fta> i just start with a clone of the main profile then, it will diverge
[03:30] <fta> hm, it's supposed to be minefield, not official branding
[03:35] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff4-2.png
[03:35] <fta> better
[03:40] <Jazzva> Not sure if this is right, but this only stops the sound when it reaches end of stream, and not when tea cup is clicked...
[03:40] <fta> I expect it to stop when the cup is clicked
[03:40] <Jazzva> We all do :)
[04:14] <Jazzva> fta, it works :)
[04:14] <fta> excellent
[04:14] <Jazzva> I'll submit it when I wake up :)... just to clean it up a bit
[04:15] <Jazzva> in the meantime, I can give you this deb...
[04:15] <fta> i'm going to bed too. it's 5am
[04:15] <Jazzva> Me too... good night, all :)
[12:51] <Jazzva> Hmm, getting some strange FF behavior. If I run it from the menu it reports an error in browser.xul (I think), and if I run it from the terminal, it starts normally... Any ideas?
[12:53] <Jazzva> XML parsing error in chrome://browser/content/browser.xul, line 1001, col 7: <menuitem id="bookmarksShowAll"
[12:53] <Jazzva> That's what it reports
[12:54] <asac> Jazzva: any locale?
[12:55] <Jazzva> I think that serbian locale was installed in this update ... noticed it in the addons dialog, but unable to remove it...
[12:55] <asac> Jazzva: you probably don't run beta5?
[12:55] <Jazzva> Umm... Just updated to what's in fta's repo
[12:55] <asac> Jazzva: you should be able to disable extensions
[12:55] <Jazzva> I'll try :)
[12:55] <asac> Jazzva: that calls for trouble ;)
[12:56] <Jazzva> Heh ... I know :)
[12:56] <Jazzva> locale was the problem :)
[12:56] <Jazzva> Thanks for the help :)
[13:00] <asac> Jazzva: locale?
[13:00] <asac> i cannot really get that ... whats in your locales install.rfg?
[13:00] <asac> rdf?
[13:00] <Jazzva> Well, it starts from the menu, after disabling serbian locales
[13:01] <asac> please tell me whats in the install.rdf then please
[13:01] <Jazzva> Just to find locale first :)
[13:01] <asac> of the langpack-XX@... in xulrunner-addons and firefox-addons
[13:01] <asac> extension
[13:01] <asac> s
[13:03] <Jazzva> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7585/
[13:05] <asac> Jazzva: and what are you running? 3.0pre?
[13:05] <asac> imo those shouldn't be loaded then
[13:05] <Jazzva> Mhm...
[13:06] <Jazzva> Ok :)
[13:06] <asac> Jazzva: does addons really show you that its enabled?
[13:06] <asac> (and compatible)?
[13:06] <Jazzva> Well, it showed as enabled ... and compatibility check is disabled
[13:06] <asac> hehe
[13:06] <asac> ok that calls for trouble
[13:06] <asac> (2nd)
[13:06] <Jazzva> :)
[13:07] <asac> Jazzva: could you pleast uninstall flash and try if the plugin finder wizard works good still
[13:07] <asac> i updated the database
[13:07] <asac> so there should be swfdec as well now
[13:07] <Jazzva> Sure thing...
[13:07] <asac> it works for me ... but better have a second opinion on somehing like this
[13:12] <Jazzva> swfdec, gnash and flashplugin-nonfree :)
[13:12] <Jazzva> Is swfdec good?
[13:13] <Jazzva> installing it anyway :)
[13:49] <fta> hi
[13:54] <fta> too bad those langpacks are bundled with tons of gnome stuff.
[14:14] <asac> fta: yeah ... not my idea to put that into gnome langpacks
[14:14] <asac> kick ubuntu folks that said that they don't want any firefox langpacks on their CD
[14:15] <mdke> hey asac
[14:16] <mdke> asac: we had a bug report about the homepage not working for the czech locale (cz) - there is a cz_CZ homepage file in ubuntu-docs, do you know if that is treated differently by firefox to the "cz" locale?
[14:16] <fta> asac, we already have thunderbird-locale-ja and mozilla-firefox-locale-ja-jp, we could just merge all those into mozilla-locale-ja or something
[14:16] <mdke> asac: it's bug 219842 if you can get LP to load it for you
[14:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219842 in ubuntu-docs "firefox start page not showing in cs_CZ locale" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219842
[14:16] <asac> mdke: whats the accept language?
[14:17] <asac> fta: well ... that would be similar. we should discuss why they can't go into the general langpacks
[14:17] <asac> i didn't have time to do this discussion properly, but we can do that for intrepid for sure
[14:18] <asac> if kubuntu folks really don't want firefox kde users to not have langpacks, we can do the unified mozilla-langpack-XX approach you suggest. sure.
[14:18] <fta> we have no control over the general lang pack and they arrived too late. we should have addressed that sooner
[14:21] <asac> fta: we have control in that we develop the software that wraps those langpacks.
[14:21] <asac> so we can decide what goes it ... however, you are right we cannot decide without coordinating, where those langpacks go in
[14:21] <asac> s/goes it/goes in/
[14:21] <mdke> asac: what's meant by "accept" language?
[14:21] <asac> fta: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/rosetta/po2xpi
[14:22] <asac> mdke: please look in preferences -> content -> languages -> choose ...  what do you see there?
[14:22] <asac> (e.g. whats there in what order)
[14:22] <mdke> asac: cs
[14:23] <mdke> at least, that's in the dropdown menu
[14:24] <asac> mdke: ok. i see. most likely an apache rule issue again
[14:25] <mdke> asac: I think the bug also refers to the local page, although I'm not sure. Should users who have "cs" see the "cs_cZ" local page?
[14:26] <asac> mdke: well ... unless usrs haeve never been online or they have the disk cache turned off, they won't see the local page anyway
[14:26] <asac> firefox falls back to cache even if offline
[14:26] <asac> but let me check
[14:26] <mdke> asac: yes, although we have to assume that some users will see the local page
[14:27] <mdke> i.e. those without internet access
[14:27] <asac> mdke: yeah i am testing that :)
[14:27]  * asac offline for a few minutes
[14:27] <mdke> asac: great, I'll leave that with you. The same principle will apply to any language which has a specific "cc_NC" code in its ubuntu-docs homepage file
[14:27] <mdke> thanks again for the help
[14:30] <asac> mdke: file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-cs_CZ.html
[14:30] <asac> thats what i get when starting with cs langpack installed
[14:30] <asac> both work: LANG=cs firefox  ... and LANG=cs_CZ firefox
[14:31] <asac> mdke: i cannot see the actual translation here because i am using the kubuntu alternative - which is busted
[14:31] <asac> but the path is correct so it should work
[14:32] <asac> mdke: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7590/
[14:33] <asac> thats what is in the kubuntu package ... so the links are bad and thus kubuntu users won't have any translation
[14:33] <asac> i checked that its not a regression over gutsy and told riddell about it, but i guess he doesn't have the time to fix this.
[14:33] <asac> maybe you know someone who takes care for the technical details of the lang packs?
[14:34] <mdke> asac: I will tell nixternal. Thanks for testing - i guess the cs prob is only with the online page then
[14:34] <mdke> bbl
[14:34] <asac> mdke: thanks
[14:34] <asac> mdke: will you be avaialble later so we could talk about details for the update process of the online page?
[14:36] <mdke> asac: ok, i'll look for you
[14:36] <asac> mdke: great. maybe nixinternal wants to be there as well :)
[14:36] <asac> nixternal ;)
[14:56] <asac> fta: ok firefox-3.0.hardy branch created for hardy-updates/security maintenance
[14:58] <fta> wasn't .dev good enough ? just a rename
[15:00] <asac> fta: .dev will be our release branch for current development distro
[15:00] <asac> at least it makes sense imo to use that branch for what was uploaded
[15:01] <asac> damn LP code is so slow for me :(
[15:03] <fta> yes, since yesterday
[15:03] <fta> they had a power outage
[15:04] <fta> it's back but slow since
[15:04] <asac> hmm
[15:10] <Jazzva> Anyone who would help me in testing teatime? It plays the sound, but my computer also locks up when teatime is running ... dunno if it's teatime, since my system has been showing up some strange behaviour lately...
[15:10] <Jazzva> fta? :)
[15:10] <asac> whats teatime?
[15:10] <fta> Jazzva, ok
[15:10] <Jazzva> asac: some applet that's buggy ...
[15:11] <Jazzva> you set the time and it popups a teacup and plays a sound when your tea is ready :)
[15:13] <asac> Jazzva: what does java use for sound? alsaß
[15:13] <asac> ?
[15:13] <Jazzva> http://www.jazzva.com/teatime.deb
[15:13] <Jazzva> java? dunno :)
[15:13] <Jazzva> I'm not really working with sound ...
[15:14] <asac> is that java applet at all? or gnome applet?
[15:14] <Jazzva> gnome applet
[15:14] <asac> ah
[15:14] <asac> where is the source?? bzr?
[15:15] <Jazzva> No, it was just synced from debian, afaik
[15:15] <Jazzva> there is a bzr at debian
[15:15] <Jazzva> Hmm, maybe not... guess it was some other pkg
[15:16] <Jazzva> I got the source with "apt-get source teatime"
[15:16] <asac> sounds useful ;)
[15:16] <Sergeant_Pony> morning
[15:16] <asac> i regularly forget my cooking ;)
[15:16] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: hi
[15:16] <Jazzva> hello Sergeant_Pony
[15:17] <Jazzva> asac: I guess you can use it for that :P
[15:18] <fta> Jazzva, see? it's useful after all :)
[15:18] <Jazzva> Not to me... I would forget to set the timer :)
[15:18] <Jazzva> But that's my problem :)
[15:18] <asac> Jazzva: do other gstreamer apps work well?
[15:19] <asac> Jazzva: maybe fire up gstreamer-properties
[15:19] <Jazzva> For me? yes... rhythmbox uses gstreamer and it works good
[15:20] <Jazzva> Ubuntu is using pulse by default?
[15:20] <asac> yes
[15:20] <asac> Jazzva: you should select ESD in that properties dialog i guess
[15:20] <Sergeant_Pony> asac: I was told to talk to you about tb and lightning?
[15:20] <asac> (if not properly auto detected)
[15:20] <Jazzva> ESD? Why not pulse?
[15:20] <asac> Jazzva: is there pulse as well?
[15:20] <asac> then use that ;)
[15:20] <asac> thought its a synonym for ESD
[15:20] <Jazzva> asac: yes... and esd is not working for me :)
[15:21] <asac> interesting
[15:21] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: sure
[15:21] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: go ahead ;)
[15:21] <Jazzva> alsa, pulse and oss work, esd doesn't... fta, any system lockups so far?
[15:21] <Sergeant_Pony> asac: I was having issues with lightning and tb freezing...
[15:21]  * Jazzva hopes it's just his system that's buggy
[15:22] <asac> Jazzva: i'd guess thats an application bug causing this ... if everything else gstreamer based is working well
[15:23] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, I'll play around with sinks and try to make them use pulseaudio (since, ubuntu does use it by default)
[15:23] <Jazzva> Is that ok approach?
[15:23] <fta> Jazzva, damn, it's also forgetting my timers.
[15:23] <fta> not your fault i guess
[15:23] <Jazzva> fta: It is? Haven't tested that :)
[15:24] <Jazzva> I suppose the application is buggier then... It also reported a lot oh unused variables at build time. I don't see the reason why they're left...
[15:24] <fta> add a new drink, remove the applet from your panel, re-add it, it's gone
[15:25] <Jazzva> I think it uses gconf for storing properties... Maybe it deletes them when the applet is destroyed...
[15:26] <asac> Mirv: please test to unpack fi.tar.gz from my people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ directory
[15:26] <asac> Mirv: that should fix the issue
[15:26] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: did you figure why?
[15:27] <Sergeant_Pony> asac: yes... after some research I found I was missing a required package.
[15:27] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: which?
[15:28] <Sergeant_Pony> libstdc++5
[15:29] <fta> Jazzva, alarm works fine, even when rhythmbox or mplayer is running and it stops when I click the cup. Good job
[15:29] <Jazzva> Yay :)... That's cool
[15:29] <Jazzva> I'm looking for the documentation for panel functions that work with gconf...
[15:29] <Jazzva> To try to fix that too ...
[15:30] <Jazzva> But, there might be some other problem..  Can gconf entries be removed upon applet deinstallation?
[15:30] <asac> Jazzva: most likely not
[15:30] <fta> I don't think they should
[15:30] <asac> but not 100% sure
[15:31] <asac> i concur with fta, its usually not what you want
[15:31] <asac> maybe if you remove --purge that package  ... but since its user-settings that doesn't work either
[15:31] <Jazzva> Right ..
[15:31] <Jazzva> Isn't that creating a gconf mess?
[15:32] <fta> asac, i've updated mozclient a lot, it's ready for mercurial now
[15:32] <asac> Jazzva: well ... not more than any other app creates a $HOME mess when it leaves your  .APP folder around
[15:32] <asac> fta: yep, saw that
[15:32] <asac> nice
[15:32] <Jazzva> asac: Good point :).
[15:32] <asac> fta: will you add git as well?
[15:32] <asac> (for midbrowser for instance)?
[15:32] <Jazzva> Well, I'll just try to find and remove the part of the code that removes gconf properties
[15:33] <Jazzva> off to lunch...
[15:34] <fta> asac, yes, i just have a few more things to add for hg. such as DEBIAN_DATE=1234 should do ~hg1234~20080420
[15:34] <fta> maybe use DEBIAN_REVISION instead
[15:34] <asac> yes, use that
[15:35] <asac> DATE should gather the proper revision if thats possible ... but if not, then just bail out with an error "date not support for hg"
[15:36] <fta> here, the date is just for information, it's not used at all.
[15:37] <fta> problem of changing the variable is that it makes the code even more complex
[15:37] <fta> it's already a pretty complex makefile
[15:39] <asac> maybe we should refactor it to untangle multiple backend support
[15:39] <asac> not sure though
[15:39] <asac> i think we have to know what we need before doing the refactoring properly
[15:39] <asac> so for now add complexity ;)
[15:41] <fta> yep, that's why I did it that way. but after git and svn, it will be ugly
[16:00] <asac> fta: could you please set the branch details for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/firefox/mozclient either to merged or abandoned? so it doesn't show up in firefox branch list anymore?
[16:09] <asac> fta: should i mark the video branch as abandoned for now?
[16:12] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: apparently you don't use our packages, but the upstream tarballs?
[16:19] <fta> done
[16:41] <asac> thx
[16:47] <Jazzva> Hmm, not sure why teatime removes entries from gconf. I'll submit this patch as it is now...
[16:47] <Jazzva> BTW, any other noticed problems?
[16:50] <fta> nope
[16:51] <Jazzva> Hmm ... looks like weather applet also doesn't remember location ... It just loads the system-wide setting...
[16:53] <fta> you mean, in the new clock ?
[16:53] <Jazzva> No, the old weather applet
[16:54] <Jazzva> I set it to Canbera, remove it from the panel, add it again and it loads with report for Belgrade.
[16:55] <fta> hm
[16:56] <Mirv> asac: hi. the fi.tar.gz you linked to seems to work great here.
[16:57] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta  49755626 2008-04-20 00:45 xulrunner-2.0_2.0~a1~hg14385~20080416+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[16:57] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 180626700 2008-04-20 17:50 xulrunner-2.0_2.0~a1~hg14385~20080416+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[16:57] <fta> asac, ^^
[16:57] <fta> the 2nd is with DEBIAN_KEEP_VCS=1
[16:57] <fta> .hg is big!
[17:06] <asac> yea :)
[17:06] <asac> Mirv: thanks
[17:07] <asac> Jazzva: is sr your locale?
[17:07] <Jazzva> asac: yes
[17:08] <asac> Jazzva: i think its rather incomplete still so i will blacklist it now for hardy :)
[17:08] <Jazzva> Heh ... got used to non-localised Firefox, anyway ;)
[17:08] <asac> Jazzva: will you finish the translation ;) ?
[17:08] <Jazzva> asac: No problem...
[17:09] <asac> would be nice as we could probabyl also figure the process on how to send back such translations to mozilla
[17:09] <Jazzva> Just to prepare the patch for teatime
[17:09] <asac> Jazzva: if you need info how to create .xpi from the .po files you can export in launchpad, let me know
[17:10] <Jazzva> BTW, I sent mail to the coordinator of Serbian translation team, but still no reply :/... Though, I am a member of that team on LP, so I suppose it's no big deal if I just jump in FF translations :)...
[17:10] <asac> sure
[17:10] <Jazzva> asac, ok...
[17:10] <asac> remember to start with xulrunner :)
[17:10] <Jazzva> I will :)
[17:11] <asac> its just 5000 strings :) ... so probably a week to get things up and another to flash out any issues ;)
[17:12] <Jazzva> Heh :)... BTW, there's a localised version on mozilla's site... Could we use that?
[17:12] <asac> it its in b5 then we probably already have it
[17:12] <asac> then don't bother ... thought it wasn't released upstream
[17:12] <Jazzva> It has a few weird shortcuts. For example, "Select all" is Ctrl+A, but in the menu it's Ctrl+ADD DICTIONARIES ... never saw that before
[17:13] <Jazzva> I'll take a look where it is... I think I had to install separate xpi
[17:14] <Jazzva> Nope, it is in beta5
[17:14] <Jazzva> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
[17:14] <asac> yeah ...we hsould have it then
[17:15] <Jazzva> Ok. I'll just look later for those shortcuts...
[17:57] <Jazzva> Funny ... this package mentions debhelper twice in Depends line :)...
[18:01] <Jazzva> Hmm... that was auto-generated from control.in. :/
[18:07] <mdke> asac: still here?
[19:48] <asac> fta: can you please test the latest config patch from crimsun for pa?
[19:48] <asac> looks good here
[19:48] <fta> ?
[19:48] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libflashsupport/+bug/192888/comments/86
[19:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed]
[19:48] <asac> fta: please
[19:48] <asac> that sounds like the best we can do now
[19:49] <asac> e.g. thats with libflashsupport dumped
[19:49] <asac> and is supposed to cure all ;)
[19:50] <asac> fta: please comment on that bug if it still doesn't work for you
[19:50] <asac> fta: be sure that have the original pa config before applying that patch
[19:50] <asac> thanks
[19:59] <fta> am i suppose to kill pa ?
[20:00] <fta> asac, ^^
[20:03] <asac> fta: it certainly needs to be restarted, yes.
[20:03] <asac> clean relogin should be enough
[20:03] <fta> do i need libflashsupport ?
[20:03] <asac> no that should go
[20:03] <asac> 20:49 < asac> e.g. thats with libflashsupport dumped
[20:04] <asac> just that config without libflashsupport should allow you to play multiple streams at once now.
[20:17] <asac> fta: welcome back :)
[20:21] <fta> seems ok. I have sound everywhere. not sure for the crashes yet.
[20:28] <asac> fta: please comment on the bug
[20:29] <asac> fta: do you know if removing packges from ppa works now?
[20:32] <fta> it does. but it wipes out all versions of the package.
[20:32] <asac> ok
[20:44] <fta> comment added
[20:44] <asac> great
[20:44] <asac> lets hope doors are still open for this one
[21:57] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone using "buttons" addon for tb?
[22:01] <asac> no
[22:02] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: i think used it once, but not for a long time
[22:02] <asac> no idea if that was actually the same extension
[22:07] <Sergeant_Pony> hmm... it's supposed to replace the hotkey's and move to the next message instead of the next unread message. can't get it to work.
[22:08] <Sergeant_Pony> unless I put up the wrong icons
[22:13] <fta> asac, pa breaks on wine now
[22:18] <asac> fta: maybe ask crimsun in -devel
[22:18] <fta> jsut did
[22:21] <fta> keyboard pref ui is broken, empty window