[01:54] does anyone here have succcess with mythexport? [01:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport [01:58] nuvexport? === croppa_ is now known as croppa [02:51] just upgrade my master backend - lots of nvidia probs - nvidia settings doesn't detect nvidia X driver, dmesg shows it loaded... see on launchpad others having this problem... any solutions here? [05:46] does 8.04 install with xfs for /var/lib [05:46] in live cd, or should i use alternate [05:49] Hey all. I have a newbie question about Linux in general. I want to run mythwelcome instead of mythfrontend first on bootup. How can I change the startup scripts? [05:51] Anyone? [05:54] Damn it's dead in here! [05:58] pretty much [05:59] they're all busy watching tv. hahaha. [05:59] righto :-) [05:59] Any idea on how to change the startup scripts on ubuntu? i want to run mythwelcome first before mythfrontend [06:00] i donno where they put that [06:00] i would start greppin [06:00] hehe [06:05] grep in /etc?? :-) [06:06] no [06:06] its probably in the home directory in a .* file [06:06] like for xdm [06:06] or its in /etc/X11 is my guess [06:06] but i donno its probably buried somewhere in /var/X11 or whatever [06:06] or is that xorg now [06:06] xorg [06:07] my finger memory sucks [06:22] ...and so we come to the crux of my dilemma...Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 24XX...and...Unable to execute "/bin/sh" for rc-default errors when trying to install Mythbuntu 8.04 [06:25] would an alternate-iso possibly have better results? === zeke is now known as gnub_daemon [06:29] or has anyone ever gotten this/ know what it means? [06:46] pretty dead in here tonight [06:46] zeke you may want to run a disk check on your drive [06:47] I've had something similar happen and an xfs_check and xfs_repair fixed it [06:48] already on the second disc check...the first one turned up errors in 8 files [06:48] 9 this time [06:48] hmm [07:10] gonna try an alternate-install...haven't had much luck with those in the past [07:12] but that was with freebsd...I ended up without a desktop environ [08:35] I'm getting a "No UPnP" error when I try to run the initial setup... [08:35] No UPnP backends found [10:42] anyone listening in? [10:42] yeah, what's the problem? [10:44] fresh install of hardy...libdvdcss2, libdvdread3, ffmpeg and other codecs installed yet I can't get dvd playback in xine, vlc or mplayer [10:44] which is what got me into the whole reinstallation debacle in the first place [10:49] 8-S [13:20] hi, somebody from germany here who can explain me how to add the "premiere direkt" channels to mythtv? [13:21] the get skipped by the channel scan [13:25] anyone know why i'd be having choppy playback in 8.04 on a c2d 2.13ghz, 2gb ram, 6800gt, using the restricted drivers? seems like no matter what playback settings i pick its choppy. [13:26] try to disable the bob2 deinterlace [13:26] i think its enabled in almost every playback group [13:30] okay, i made a custom profile... what would you recommend as my decoder and renderer? [13:32] MythbuntuGuest83: it's been discussed in the forums and on the mythtv-users mailing list [13:32] laga thats my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4746803#post4746803 [13:33] BobSlob I am using the xvmc-nvidia setting [13:33] hmm... i dont even see that one. that the renderer? [13:34] BobSlob sorry, as decoder standard xvmc and renderer xvmc-opengl [13:35] xvmc-opengl isn't supported. it will fall back to something else [13:35] lol [13:35] ok then I don't know which I use ;) [13:35] haha [13:35] it's still listed in the menu.. should be fixed :) [13:36] using standard xvmc and xvmc-blit caused mythtv to crap out =P [13:38] BobSlob: maybe it's a problem with the video timing method. try opengl vsync? [13:38] i switched to just standard and its working okay [13:39] i guess you don't need xvmc on the E6400 ;) [13:40] weird though, the "ticker" on sports channels is choppy as its scrolling... hard to read [13:40] xvmc is the best choice right? [13:41] if it's jittery, you can usually benefit from a 2x deinterlacer [13:41] BobSlob: no, it's just "a" choice.. check the mythtv wiki on xvmc ;) [13:57] laga so you can't help me with premiere? [14:07] no [14:16] ok danke trotzdem [14:39] think i'd get better performance if i went to the offical nvidia drivers over the restricted drivers? [14:44] most definitly [14:45] should i just use envy to install them? [14:46] um [14:46] what's the difference between "official nvidia drivers" and the "restricted drivers"? ;) [14:46] but in any case, use envy, don't install from source [14:46] i think he's using restricted as in, 'useless' rather than to say proprietary [14:46] :P [14:48] Err http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/free Packages [14:48] 404 Not Found [IP: 91.121.38.148 80] [14:48] wtf? [14:48] omg [14:48] clicky dont work no more :) [14:48] haha [14:49] no, i am saying mythbuntu control panel is selecting 404 package tree [14:49] just popped in to say thanks for advice yesterday - I got 8.04rc running and i'm very impressed - esp the multirec (3 recordings simultaneously on one tuner!) [14:50] multirec? [14:50] 3 different channels? [14:51] 3 channels on the same mux using one tuner [14:52] why would you do that? [14:58] nvm [14:58] they are having server issues over at medibuntu [15:14] indeed, 3 channels on the same mux is the restriction - but 2 tuners means you pretty much have no chance of recording clashes [15:15] hmm [15:15] anyone have any ideas why my recorded shows display no video (i hear the sound, and in the menu the video shows in the little window) [15:17] BobSlob, may have to remove and readd your capture card from the setup [15:18] anyone with nuvexport or nythexport experience? [15:18] mythexport [15:19] nuvexport is not renaming the file correctly [15:19] mmythexport is not working at all [15:21] nuvexport is not renaming the files it creates correctly, then end up like this %t_-__00_(04).avi [15:29] what? [15:29] darthanubis: okay... although i dont see how that'll work... the video is recorded [15:29] 3 MUX? [15:29] wtf is a mux? [15:29] i can hear the sound, just no video [15:30] sorry [15:30] I miss understood the ? [15:30] oh.. np =D [15:31] !google | a1fa [15:31] a1fa: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux: http://google.com/linux [15:31] what [15:31] !google | ubotu [15:31] ubotu: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux: http://google.com/linux [15:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demux [15:33] In electronics, a multiplexer or mux (occasionally the term muldex is also found, for a combination multiplexer-demultiplexer) is a device that performs multiplexing; it selects one of many analog or digital input signals and outputs that into a single line. [15:33] ok [15:33] so i dont get it what does have to do with recording 1 show 3 times [15:33] doesnt make sence [16:07] someone mentioned to me, a plugin or something that could download missing episodes off usenet automagically within mythtv [16:07] any truth to that? [16:08] no [16:08] not gonna happen [19:16] hmm -- so my problem of mythtv-frontend not holding focus... must have something to do with either the SVIDEO out to the TV (2nd display) or it has to do with the fact that I upgraded the mythtv box from 7.10 to 8.04 -- my 8.04 workstation that has been installed since Alpha2 -- works fine with the frontend [19:17] is there also a way to setup mythbuntu via usb? [19:18] via usb stick? [19:18] yeah [19:18] you can copy all the contents of the iso to the stick [19:18] and then install grub/syslinux [19:18] or similar [19:19] Raspberry: wait. you have a dualhead setup? yeah, mythfrontend tends to loose focus then, especially if you do work on the other head [19:19] hmm nm, the machine doesn't support it :p [19:27] laga: the tv is the only head... i think i explaned things wrong earler :) [19:28] ah [19:39] i just tried to give mythbuntu 8.04 a try, I'm using it as a live frontend [19:39] but it isn't able to play recorded programs [19:40] it gives: NVP::OpenFile(): Error, couldn't read file: myth://192.168.1.11:6543/ [19:40] the previews show up in the recorded programs window [19:41] and livetv works [19:41] ...i guess i just want to know if I'm doing something wrong or if i should report a bug [19:44] i think there should be a file appended after myth://192.168.1.11:6543/ but there isn't one [19:44] and i don't know why [19:50] mary|myth, is that on a secondary backend that you are connecting to? [19:50] or to a primary? [19:51] primary [19:51] hm okay then it isn't likely a recording prefix error [19:52] is that the right ip of the backend? [19:52] 192.168.1.11? [19:52] yeah [19:52] is it listening on that port? [19:52] try nmap.. [19:52] my other frontends work :/ [19:52] hm [19:53] what kind of video card? [19:53] maybe xv isn't working.. [19:53] i did have to change the video player [19:53] but livetv from the backend is working [19:53] just recordings dont work? [19:53] wha? [19:53] yeah [19:53] that's really bzr... [19:53] and they show up in their preview [19:54] well the preview does different stuff [19:54] those silly mini-videos in the right corner [19:54] so i would think that's much to go on [19:54] do you have a secondary backend setup anywhere? [19:54] or have you ever? [19:54] i don't think so [19:54] possibly with the same hostname that you are using on the live disk [19:54] okay [20:00] i set it to always stream recordings from the backend, before that it was saying that it could find /home/mythtv i think [20:13] i just tried setting a different hostname in the mysql.txt and that didn't change anything [20:17] does the mythfrontend log indicate that error, or the backend log? [20:18] frontend [20:18] i don't see any errors in the backend [20:18] does the backend by chance complain at the same time about anything? [20:19] hm [20:19] well could you by chance do an install from live disk somewhre? [20:19] and see if it persists upon install? [20:20] unfortunatly i don't can a computer to do it on right now [20:20] o [20:20] even to a flash drive? [20:20] no :/ [20:20] thats why i was trying the live mythbuntu [20:21] i've had no issues with it in the past, so it's a bit surprising this is cropping up [20:21] especially if other frontends work [20:23] (i sometimes get "recording not foundt" too but i havent investigated yet) [20:26] in one of my google searches, someone said they were missing a perl script [20:26] but didn't say what it was [20:27] just one of those "oh i fixed it, was missing a perl script" [20:27] shouldnt be using perl for anything at that time.... [20:27] and anyhow libmyth-perl is installed already [20:30] maybe optimize_mythdb.pl or myth.rebuilddatabase.pl but i doubt that. [20:32] especially on playback [20:37] i just noticed up two likes it gives: 2008-04-20 19:36:40.227 GetRecordBasename found no entry [20:37] i used to see these 1-2 months ago, then i updated from trunk to 0.21, now it seems to be back.. [20:38] although it's still possible it's just a case of bad reception for me [20:38] mary|myth, can your database for consistency [20:38] see if you can repair some tables [20:38] mythweb has a nifty button for that [20:39] hm mythweb stopped working when it update to .21 and i haven't looked at it since [20:39] related issue possibly :)? [20:39] nm.. [20:39] mythweb is fixed [20:40] i hadn't tried it in a long time [20:40] well you know an important question here then based on laga's statement [20:40] are you working off the 8.04 disk? [20:40] or 7.10 [20:40] 8/04 [20:40] yeah well try to repair the DB [20:41] see if there is any luck [20:41] my backend is debian [20:43] well no one's perfect ;) [20:43] heh, its my fiance's computer not mine [20:44] just replace the sources.list, he'll never know [20:44] haha, i tried that one time on a computer of mine...it turned out very bad [20:45] i had a ubuntu install and wanted to turn it into a debian install... [20:45] yes, i imagine.. [20:45] i tried to convert my ubuntu i386 into and amd64 install once [20:45] i didn't care too much if it got messed up, i just gave it a try [20:45] well its actually very doable [20:45] superm1: i386->amd64? [20:45] yeah [20:45] you need to first have an update to date i386 [20:46] and then debootstrap an amd64 into another directory [20:46] and over write everything in i386 [20:46] and then use apt to reinstall everything [20:46] hum [20:46] i tried to do everything in place [20:46] yeah that's never gonna work [20:46] installing the amd64 kernel went ok, but glibc sucked ;) [20:46] ok...my database is all 'OK' [20:47] well your fiance's database is okay. [20:47] but yeah [20:48] his computer, my tv [20:48] it was okay before, or it is "now'? [20:48] was ok before [20:48] hn [20:48] well makes for a perplexing problem then [20:57] would be interesting to see the database entry for one of the affected recordings [20:58] *all* recordings are like this [20:58] but only with this frontend [20:58] are all the others the same os? [20:58] or what are they? [20:58] my laptop is running regular old ubuntu [20:58] 8.04? [20:58] gusty [20:59] hm [20:59] well the backport is still very similar to the 8.04 [20:59] so it shouldnt be anything major between the two [20:59] could you try to set a diff hostname in the live frontend? [20:59] in the gui [20:59] so it gets fresh settings [21:00] yeah, i tried that [21:00] and i tried the hostname from my laptop [21:00] and both had the same result as before [21:00] perhaps try booting that live disk on your laptop [21:00] to rule out some weird hardware issue of this machine [21:00] since you know the hw in your laptop works [21:00] heh, my latop is ultra portable, it has no CD drive [21:00] and this hardware worked with debian [21:01] using a prop graphics drivers? [21:01] or open source [21:01] the intel one [21:01] same driver as my laptop [21:01] hm [21:01] ...and livetv streaming from the backend works [21:02] okay only other thing i could think is to bump the verbosity up on the frontend launch [21:02] can you pastebin the whole frontend and backend log? [21:06] http://lug.mtu.edu/pastebin/2737 [21:06] that's the frontend [21:11] here is the end of the backend: http://lug.mtu.edu/pastebin/2738 [21:12] 2008-04-20 16:05:46.272 RemoteFile::openSocket(control socket): [21:12] Could not connect to server "" @ port -1 [21:12] 2008-04-20 16:05:46.272 RemoteFile::openSocket(file data socket): [21:12] Could not connect to server "" @ port -1 [21:12] that doesn'g look very nice [21:12] nor that [21:12] 2008-04-20 16:05:46.273 RingBuffer::RingBuffer(): Failed to open remote file () [21:12] 2008-04-20 16:05:46.326 RingBuf() Error: Invalid file descriptor in [21:12] 'safe_read()' [21:12] you sure your other machines are working properly right now? [21:12] yup [21:12] just checked again [21:13] i've had the same error messages [21:13] let me look at my logs [21:14] * laga waits for his backend to power up [21:17] mine seem different... [21:17] backend: [21:18] 2008-04-20 22:17:23.034 RingBuf(/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/screwless/56621_20080420165800.mpg): Could not open /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/screwless/56621_20080420165800.mpg. [21:18] 2008-04-20 22:17:23.039 RingBuf(/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/screwless/56621_20080420165800.mpg) Error: Invalid file descriptor in 'safe_read()' [21:18] frontend: 2008-04-20 22:18:04.944 Error: File 'myth://192.168.0.118:6543/56628_20080419221300.mpg' missing. [21:18] _lots_ of these. [21:19] * laga looks at the database [21:20] i think mine might have been from when i tried to delete a recording from the live frontend [21:20] it didn't register i deleted it until i left the recrdings menu and went back into it [21:21] but it did actually delete it [21:23] the recording i'm currently looking actually doesn't exist. so we might not have the same problem. [21:23] mary|myth: you can try to change the LocalHostName in mysql.txt.. so you start with fresh settings [21:23] on your frontend [21:23] i tried that already [21:23] oh :/ [21:25] i used to have that problem when my BE and Fe had slightly different versions of mythtv. [21:26] not saying that it's related, but it went away after upgrading to 0.21 :) [21:27] http://lug.mtu.edu/pastebin/2739 <- verbose one [21:29] well, i dont see any error messages at all in that one? [21:29] odd [21:29] 'video_output' mean = '33340.60', std. dev. = '245.63', fps = '29.99' [21:29] looks like its working? [21:29] see line 37 [21:30] ah, right. [21:30] mary|myth: -v network might interesting, or -v database [21:30] both will be huge [21:30] you can also combine them ;) [21:30] and why can i only ever find references to spongebob in my logs [21:31] okay, looks like i need to rescan my transports. [21:35] SELECT basename FROM recorded WHERE chanid = '1073' AND starttime = '2008-04-20T02:00:00' [21:35] that is the query it is doing [21:35] and that is returning nothing [21:37] look at taht table and see what looks wrong related to it [21:37] perhaps a timezone issue? [21:37] can you work out what the query is on other boxes? [21:37] are the locales on your other boxes different at all? [21:38] my other startimes dont' have the "T02" in them [21:38] instead there is a space there [21:39] hum [21:39] can you run 'export' on both boxes so we can see the environment? strip all sensitive information of course [21:42] * laga goes to sort his channel list [21:44] even without the "T" there isn't a recording at that time [21:44] it is 3 hours earlier [21:45] mary|myth: can you please give us the output of "date" from both boxes? [21:45] Sun Apr 20 20:45:35 UTC 2008 [21:45] Sun Apr 20 16:45:46 EDT 2008 [21:45] okay, and where are you located? [21:46] EDT [21:46] well, can you see the problem? ;) [21:46] so, um, how do i change the timezone? [21:46] without a reboot [21:46] so sounds like we should have an option in the live frontend for settings timezone huh laga? [21:46] because usually i reboot [21:46] mary|myth, i think just tzselect [21:46] will do the trick [21:47] oh neat [21:47] superm1: no. people just need to have their time (zone) configured correctly [21:47] oh [21:47] in the _live_ frontend [21:47] yeah. [21:47] yeah [21:47] some graphical timezone thingamajic [21:47] i just used tzselect and date is still wrong [21:48] hum [21:48] sudo tzselect? [21:48] Note that tzselect will not actually change the timezone for you. Use ’dpkg-reconfigure tzdata’ to achieve this. [21:48] so that it updates /etc/localtime and stuch [21:48] yup [21:48] oh [21:48] * laga slaps superm1 [21:48] hey how am i supposed to know that [21:48] heh [21:48] i usually just update the symlink manually [21:49] what is the point of a utility to just "view" timezones [21:49] that seems incredibly un-useful [21:49] yay it works [21:49] heh [21:49] thanks! :) [21:49] yay [21:49] :) [21:49] and my backend works, too. [21:49] at least i hope that :) [21:49] darn timezones [21:49] i think that we need an FAQ question on that [21:49] yes [21:50] mary|myth, would you mind addin gthat to the FAQ? [21:50] is it just a wiki or something? [21:50] yeah it should be [21:50] superm1: how's lost season 4? [21:50] any good? [21:51] well even if it wasnt [21:51] would you stop watching? [21:51] where is the faq? [21:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/FAQs [21:51] superm1: no. [21:51] yeah see [21:52] there doesn't seem to be a 8.04 section [21:52] well that will pertain to 7.10 or 8.04 [21:52] superm1: i'll probably be importing season 4 on DVD [21:52] just a general question [21:52] laga, you can't just watch via the intarweb on abc's website? [21:53] superm1: i'm not used to such generosity on part of media companies [21:53] well they might lock it down for .de [21:54] but that's how i've caught up on all the south park (www.southparkstudios.com) [21:54] "only viewers within the united states can watch these full-length episodes" [21:54] i knew i should have rented a server in .us. [21:55] that's so ridiculous [21:55] yup :) [21:56] superm1: can everyone in the US just watch them in HD on the intarwebs? that's very neat [21:56] yeah but it's all add ridden [21:56] how much? [21:56] actually i dunno. i've only ever used it to watch the start or end of an episode [21:56] that got cut off [21:56] ah [21:57] gah, i need to stop reading the episode description [21:57] some networks adblock works on though [21:57] like southpark's [21:57]