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ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu (santa11)00:12
ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu ()00:14
ubotubbyever called the ops in #ubuntu ()00:15
snowolfstantalls in #ubuntu00:15
snowolf*santall00:15
LjLi see that metamorfosiz has not stopped calling people idiots.01:07
PriceChildHey wobblywu, how can I help?04:05
wobblywujust passing by, don't mind me04:05
* PriceChild hasn't ever stumbled into #gentoo-ops or ##linux-ops without a reason and wonders what's really up with wobblywu.04:05
wobblywuplotting my evil overthrow of the #ubuntu government04:05
wobblywuyou know, the usual04:06
wobblywuI was talking to elkbuntu about the average response to being banned in #ubuntu04:06
wobblywuso I thought i'd hop on by and see for myself04:06
PriceChildwobblywu: the channel is logged, see /topic04:07
naliothmany people enjoy the logs, too04:08
naliothvicarous living, i suppose04:08
wobblywuwell, doh04:10
wobblywushould've thought of that sooner04:10
wobblywui'll be out of here in a min by the way, hoping to catch a live one to save having to crawl through them logs but i'll do that instead in a few minutes :)04:23
Hobbseeunlikely at this time of day04:23
Hobbseelots are asleep04:23
elkbuntuyay, already we have someone glorifying nazis :(04:42
wobblywulol04:43
wobblywu:/04:43
elkbuntuwobblywu, welcome to the world you asked for04:44
elkbuntusure you want to stay?04:44
wobblywuelkbuntu, it resolved itself without your intervening though :)04:44
elkbuntuwobblywu, hasnt resolved yet, trust me04:44
wobblywuor, it's resolving itself04:45
wobblywuvoided has just been a bit naughty today04:45
elkbuntuwobblywu, trust me, it's not over yet04:45
tonyyarussokeep an eye on tuntun when he's around - he's been pasting the same question across #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-motu, and such all day.  (in my awaylog)04:45
elkbuntuand your rules let him be. now, whenever someone gets offended, they're the bad one, not the victim04:45
wobblywuvoided is just having a field day now04:46
Picitonyyarusso: what question is that?04:46
wobblywulovely timing too ;o04:46
Hobbseetonyyarusso: and -devel04:46
tonyyarussoPici: various04:46
Picitonyyarusso: roger that04:46
wobblywuelkbuntu, it's still mostly confusion right now, rather than actual problems04:51
wobblywuelkbuntu, i'm sure you're rational enough to realise this is an unfair depiction of how it'd actually go :)04:51
wobblywuanyway, i'm clogging up the -ops logs, *parts*04:51
Hobbseevoidedchick is sounding very much like a troll.  i see no evidence from the usual places, though04:52
Hobbsee<sigh>06:09
Hobbseeand he's gone too.06:12
MadpilotHobbsee, the chap with the intelligent word in his username?07:11
HobbseeMadpilot: don't remember.  there were 207:13
elkbuntuHobbsee, the way he asked is nearly identical to the one last week08:12
Hobbseeelkbuntu: yes, very convenient.08:13
Hobbseeelkbuntu: but i would reforward it, so people have no need to ask in -offtopic08:13
elkbuntuyep, do so08:13
Hobbseedo i have access to?08:14
* Hobbsee doesn't knwo hwo to08:14
elkbuntunor i08:16
Hobbseenalioth: can you fix that please?08:17
Hobbseeelkbuntu: really, i'd treat it as an auto-kline channel or something.08:18
* nalioth guesses what08:18
Hobbseenalioth: reforward.  see /query08:18
Hobbseenalioth: thanks08:25
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PriceChild!hardy14:44
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu14:44
Hobbseethat's like....4 days away14:44
Hobbseeand LP is borken :(14:44
ikoniaI'd be surprised of not having a delay14:45
PriceChildSo when are we openning party back up? :P14:45
Hobbseethey shouldn't delay, i would think14:45
HobbseePriceChild: now's a good time.  *shrug*14:45
HobbseePriceChild: send all the AWTYers there.14:45
ikoniaHobbsee: i'll bet you a cake of your choice14:46
ikoniaI hope they don't actually14:46
PriceChildawtyers?14:47
PriceChildohh are we ther eyet14:47
ompaulPriceChild, open it up and make it mute take the mute off on Wed and put that in an announce in the topic saying that it is open for visitors but the mute comes off during the daytime UK time Wed 14:48
ompaulhehe14:48
HobbseePriceChild: yes14:49
Hobbseeompaul: or you could just let them stew there.  They'd probably enjoy that.14:49
ikoniamorning ompaul 14:49
ompaulikonia, 3pm ;-)14:50
ikoniaI know I know14:50
ompaulikonia, :)14:50
ompaul it is always morning on the internet14:50
ikoniait's 5:00......somehwere14:50
Hobbseeit doesn't look like that many bugs that aren't done.14:56
Hobbseetesting might get pretty tight, though14:56
ikoniachose your cake14:57
ompaul!cake | ikonia 14:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:57
ompaulthe cake is a lie 14:57
Hobbseechocolate mud cake, please.14:57
ikoniaa good choice14:57
Hobbseethe cake is always a lie.14:57
Hobbseeompaul: it's a pity you don't have a linode.14:57
Hobbseeompaul: there, the cake is *not* a lie.14:58
ompaulHobbsee, what is a linode14:58
ompaulhahahahahaha14:58
Hobbseeompaul: a vps14:58
ompaulahh 14:58
Hobbseewhen you type cake into lish, it gives you a recipe.14:58
Hobbseei haven't tried it yet.14:58
Hobbseei'm thinking of doing so, though14:58
ompaul /bin/sh makes assumptions which I personally don't like 14:59
ompaulI think if you want bash choose bash14:59
ompauland dash dash14:59
ikoniathats a tough thing15:01
ikoniaas all the distros link sh to different thing15:01
ikoniaeg: bash, dash, openbourne15:01
ompaulaye15:02
ompaulI don't like it and haven't since csh was replaced with tcsh in FreeBSD ;-)15:02
ompauli.e. before most people knew there was software things you could run on machines other than the one that came with it15:03
ikoniatcsh doesn't bother me that much because of it's compatability, so linux/hpux/solaris/aix etc can have a strong gable that scripts in csh will be cross-compatible15:04
ikoniabut sh / bourne / bash / dash / ash / open bourne - well thats a mess15:04
* Hobbsee thinks all scripts should be compatible with a posix compliant shell. end of story.15:06
Hobbseethat being said, i'll keep my zsh, thanks.15:06
ikoniaHobbsee: that would be the ideal world15:07
Hobbseeikonia: things are changing15:07
ikoniawith time.....15:08
Hobbseeikonia: lenny wants all scripts to be compatible with dash, and not contain bashisms - it's a release goal.15:08
ikoniaa hardy release goal ?15:08
Hobbseea lot of ubuntu stuff has been getting changed, as it fails to build15:08
Hobbseeno, a lenny release goal.15:08
ikoniaooh15:08
ikoniasorry15:08
ikoniathats achievable, but still quite hard15:08
jdongHobbsee: I personally think all shell scripts should ask for a shell they will run on....15:10
Hobbseejdong: crack.15:11
jdong:(15:11
jdonglol15:11
Hobbseejdong: and you'd also like cpanplus interactive builds, i take it.15:11
Hobbseethat locked up a buildd for *3* days.15:11
jdongof course #!/bin/sh is only a non-bourne shell on Linux15:11
jdonglol nice15:12
Hobbseevery.15:12
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (blotto)15:17
LjL*sigh*16:27
LjLblotto is tobfaim, etc, it's the same old bot16:27
LjLdo a /whois16:27
PriceChildtobfaim?16:28
LjLquite. it took me half an hour to get it k-lined, but it had been around for days (with a couple of nicknames) unhindered, doing markov-chains "artificial intelligence" in several channels16:29
PriceChildLemme see if I can get something done.16:31
HobbseeLjL: wonder if it's a bot of a well-known nick changer16:32
LjLHobbsee: eh... he's a nick changing bot?16:33
Hobbseeand i don't mean frank.16:33
LjLwell-known, i wouldn't say that16:33
LjLsince it's been around since april 5 and most ops and staff barely noticed16:33
LjLit even talked right here in #ubuntu-ops16:33
HobbseeLjL: see /query16:33
Hobbseelovely16:33
LjL*and* it took people a while to ban it realizing it wasn't human even here16:34
PriceChildseems like it just cycled16:35
LjL(PM) [17:40:42] <LjL> hello there [17:41:02] <blotto> LjL: are no ebuilds to satisfy "=app-emulation/qemu-softmmu-0. 9. 0-r2"16:41
Jucatojussio1: please keep an eye on julie. I'm not sure if he/she is trolling or just plain clueless (either way she's starting to become annoying)16:48
* Jucato is too tired.. won't last long16:48
jussio1heh, yeah16:48
PriceChildwhere is this?16:48
jussio1#k16:49
Hobbsee#kubuntu, most likely16:49
* jussio1 hugs Jucato there we are :)16:51
jussio1Ok, im off for a bit. Julie looks a little trollish, so keep an eye on please. (#k and #k-ot)16:58
Seveas!hardy =~ s/- CONSIDER.* -/-/18:11
ubotuI'll remember that Seveas18:11
Seveas!hardy18:11
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu18:11
Seveaswith the RC out, that's appropriate :)18:11
ikoniaSeveas: when did it get RC status ?18:11
Seveas2 days ago18:11
ikoniaooh really18:12
ikoniaguess thats the punishment I have for going out this weekend18:13
ubotuIn ubotu, Xengu said: !rape is an enjoyable experience that is sometimes also known as 'suprise sex'.18:20
MyrttiErg18:21
MyrttiGet his ip18:21
MyrttiPlease18:22
Seeker`-18:19:06- ~s~ Xengu > (n=Xengu@80-195-89-127.cable.ubr06.live.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #ubuntu18:22
Seeker`Myrtti: that what you wanted?18:23
MyrttiIm on mobile so I cant. Thanks Seeker18:23
MyrttiYeah18:23
MyrttiWatch him close, as 18:23
MyrttiSoon as I get home Ill join #u again18:24
Seeker`He parted ubuntu 5 mins ago18:25
MyrttiGood.18:25
Seeker`He quit 4 seconds after sending that !rape thing18:25
MyrttiIll still watch over  that hostname18:25
MyrttiEven better18:26
MyrttiDisgusting18:26
ompaulis that person banned?18:28
ompaulthey are now18:28
naliothit appears he caught a train18:29
Seeker`nalioth: what train might that be?18:31
Seeker`the ban train, the clue train or the k-line train?18:32
nalioththe k-line18:32
Seeker`ah, cool18:32
* nalioth doesn't know any other type of train18:32
Seeker`shame about the lack of return tickets18:33
Seeker`:P18:33
naliothban hammer     clue bat      k-line18:33
naliothnot sure where trains fit into 'ban' and 'clue'18:34
naliothbut the k-line is right after the j-line and before the l-line18:35
ubotuIn #ubuntu, crazytalk said: ubotu: that guide is wrong!19:20
crazytalkubotu responds to 'that guide is wrong'?19:21
stdin[19:20]<ubotu> In #ubuntu, crazytalk said: ubotu: that guide is wrong!19:22
stdinit thinks you submitted a factiod19:22
stdinso it posts it for review19:22
stdinthe trick is to not use the word "is" when talking to ubotu 19:23
crazytalkkk19:23
crazytalkwhat is a factoid?19:23
stdinthe message it gives from commands, like19:23
stdin!ping19:23
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore19:24
stdin^ factoid19:24
stdin!bot19:24
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:24
stdinsee that link for more19:24
naliothnot a very good example19:24
crazytalkubotu ireland is cool19:24
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, crazytalk said: ubotu ireland is cool19:24
crazytalk!ireland19:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ireland - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:24
crazytalkubotu finger is dude smell my finger19:25
stdinlike I said crazytalk, when you submit one it posts it here for review19:25
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, crazytalk said: ubotu finger is dude smell my finger19:25
crazytalk!finger19:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:25
stdinplease don't abuse ubotu 19:25
crazytalkok19:25
crazytalklol19:25
naliothcrazytalk: to prevent abuse, only certain folks can enter factoids19:25
crazytalkahh kk19:25
crazytalklike developers?19:25
stdinno, just certain people who maintain the factoid database19:25
crazytalkcool19:26
crazytalksorry i didn't mean to abuse19:26
crazytalkthanks guys19:26
crazytalkkeep on trucking! :)19:26
Myrtti[21:59] <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee  hacerist25@20:00
Myrtti[21:59] *** meliha [n=gulsum@88.254.51.220]20:00
Myrtti!msg20:00
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.20:00
Myrtti!msg > meliha20:01
stdinlooks like I got the same from [dilseren] (n=hayal@85.97.199.29): emel20:01
no0ticmeliha pm'ed me too20:13
ompaulthat be spam20:16
ompaulnalioth, if you want to whack a mole <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee hacerist25@20:26
AfterDeathI'm getting odd spam from meliha (in #ubuntu)20:28
AfterDeath19:27:47 <~meliha> Slm Benle D�r�stce Arkada�l�k Etmek �stiyorsan @@klkelee hacerist25@20:28
AfterDeath(this was in PM)20:29
Myrttiyes, we know20:32
Myrttiwe've gotten it ourselves too20:32
Seeker`Got a random PM from meliha20:48
PriceChildHey TuxIce, what's up?20:49
TuxIcewhoa, how did i get into the ops channel20:50
TuxIceleaving now20:50
PriceChildlook in your server window20:50
MenZaSpambot in #ubuntu. Keeps /query'ing me:20:54
MenZa[2008-04-20 21:53:53 CEST]  -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with meliha20:54
MenZa[2008-04-20 21:53:53 CEST]  <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee hacerist25@20:54
MenZan=gulsum@88.254.51.220 <-20:55
Seeker`MenZa: A few people have mentioned it now21:02
Myrttithere21:02
no0tichere too, second time21:02
Myrtti[23:02] *** mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*n=gulsum@88.254.51.*] by Myrtti21:02
Myrtti[23:02] *** meliha was kicked from #ubuntu by Myrtti [Myrtti]21:02
MenZaNot surprised, Seeker`21:02
MenZaThanks, Myrtti :)21:03
LjL[21:51:49] <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee hacerist25@ <- PM, banned21:47
Myrttiagain?21:48
LjLno, sorry i just connected. i thought he wasn't banned since my ban went through, but that's just because you had banned with a different mask21:49
Seeker`bug in a factoid22:13
Seeker`!awn22:13
ubotuawn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe in Hardy22:13
Seveas!awn =~ s/R/r/22:16
ubotuNothing changed there22:16
Seveasmeh22:16
* PriceChild fixed it22:16
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rodserling said: !twss is <reply> That's What Seveas Said22:24
ompaulhehe no that is not going in the bot22:25
Seveas:)22:25
LjLi wouldn't be so sure22:30
vorianhaha22:32
vorianthat's fantastic22:32
LjLi have a feeling this irc_morons guy is some old aquaintance22:58
SeveasI share that feeling22:58
Seveasmrt 05 06:21:29 <--HILLARY_CLINTON (n=axe@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by tritium: "Politics are offtopic here.  Thanks.")23:00
Seveasapr 20 00:43:57 -->The-Huge-Dahng (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net) has joined #ubuntu23:00
LjLSeveas: yes, i should learn from you to grep the logs stright away rather than trying to reload some dumb bantracker :P23:02
Seveas:)23:02
LjLi'd never mixed up spanish with portuguese before :(23:10
LjLaaah seveas23:10
LjLit's ccvp23:10
Seveasah23:10
LjL[Sat Apr 12 2008] [22:19:46] Join       ccvp has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).23:10
LjL[Sun Apr 20 2008] [00:43:59] Join       The-Huge-Dahng has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).23:10
LjL[Sun Apr 20 2008] [23:47:14] Join       IRC_MORONS has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).23:10
LjL[Sun Apr 20 2008] [23:57:35] Whois      IRC_MORONS is n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net (Owner)23:10
LjL[Mon Apr 21 2008] [00:08:20] Whois      IRC_MORONS is n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net (Owner)23:10
ikoniaIRC_MORONS> :(){:|:&};:23:11
ikoniawas that some sort of explout attempt ?23:11
ikoniaLjL: I have ccvp on my list of known "issues23:11
ikoniaIrssi: Offline: kenthomson, lightbook, topo, crozar, ccvp, Agent_Bob, naudiz, white_eagle, fullmon-t, chuy, arrg, MeNoS, tocar2ta, unagi, flea, bacta, kahrytan, gfetco, ted`, ted123:11
ikoniaccvp is in there23:11
LjLikonia: we have ccvp on the list of known permbanned people :P23:12
LjLbut apparently we still manage to miss them23:12
ikoniaahhh23:12
Seveasip address changed23:12
Seeker`ikonia: That is a fork bomb23:15
ikoniaSeeker`: what does it do ?23:16
LjLoh, and folks, seriously - IMPORTANT - if you see someone who answers things semi-randomly (with phrases that almost make sense but not quite), it's most likely a bot that's been around lately23:17
LjLcheck /whois, it'll probably be in other channels too (#gentoo, ##javascript to name a couple)23:17
Seeker`heh, or one of a few other peopleI  know :P23:17
LjLban on sight and report to freenode. you can check it's a bot by PM'ing, they'd answer within a minute with a random sentence23:17
SeveasI've banned that bot a few times already23:17
Seeker`ikonia: If you run it in a shell, it spawns copies of itself in an infinite loop, it uses up all your memory / CPU23:18
Seeker`ikonia: And it usually spawns new threads so quickly that by the time you realise what it does, your computer is too slow to stop it23:18
ikoniahow nice23:19
Seeker`yeah, its not much more than an annoyance really23:22
Seeker`but it is still bad and wrong23:22
ikoniaLjL: now a little time has passed, how do you find the ext3 recovery factoid being used and the people that are using it (if you know)23:22
LjLikonia: it's been used a total of 22 times, that's about all i know :)23:24
ikoniarubbish ;)23:25
ikoniai only ask as someone was in channel asking about it23:25
Seveas!-ext323:25
ubotuext3 has no aliases - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 21:35:1423:25
LjL!recover23:25
ubotuSome tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although a method that might work in some cases is described at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html23:25

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