[00:12] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (santa11)
[00:14] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[00:15] <ubotu> bbyever called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[00:15] <snowolf> stantalls in #ubuntu
[00:15] <snowolf> *santall
[01:07] <LjL> i see that metamorfosiz has not stopped calling people idiots.
[04:05] <PriceChild> Hey wobblywu, how can I help?
[04:05] <wobblywu> just passing by, don't mind me
[04:05]  * PriceChild hasn't ever stumbled into #gentoo-ops or ##linux-ops without a reason and wonders what's really up with wobblywu.
[04:05] <wobblywu> plotting my evil overthrow of the #ubuntu government
[04:06] <wobblywu> you know, the usual
[04:06] <wobblywu> I was talking to elkbuntu about the average response to being banned in #ubuntu
[04:06] <wobblywu> so I thought i'd hop on by and see for myself
[04:07] <PriceChild> wobblywu: the channel is logged, see /topic
[04:08] <nalioth> many people enjoy the logs, too
[04:08] <nalioth> vicarous living, i suppose
[04:10] <wobblywu> well, doh
[04:10] <wobblywu> should've thought of that sooner
[04:23] <wobblywu> i'll be out of here in a min by the way, hoping to catch a live one to save having to crawl through them logs but i'll do that instead in a few minutes :)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> unlikely at this time of day
[04:23] <Hobbsee> lots are asleep
[04:42] <elkbuntu> yay, already we have someone glorifying nazis :(
[04:43] <wobblywu> lol
[04:43] <wobblywu> :/
[04:44] <elkbuntu> wobblywu, welcome to the world you asked for
[04:44] <elkbuntu> sure you want to stay?
[04:44] <wobblywu> elkbuntu, it resolved itself without your intervening though :)
[04:44] <elkbuntu> wobblywu, hasnt resolved yet, trust me
[04:45] <wobblywu> or, it's resolving itself
[04:45] <wobblywu> voided has just been a bit naughty today
[04:45] <elkbuntu> wobblywu, trust me, it's not over yet
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> keep an eye on tuntun when he's around - he's been pasting the same question across #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-motu, and such all day.  (in my awaylog)
[04:45] <elkbuntu> and your rules let him be. now, whenever someone gets offended, they're the bad one, not the victim
[04:46] <wobblywu> voided is just having a field day now
[04:46] <Pici> tonyyarusso: what question is that?
[04:46] <wobblywu> lovely timing too ;o
[04:46] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: and -devel
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> Pici: various
[04:46] <Pici> tonyyarusso: roger that
[04:51] <wobblywu> elkbuntu, it's still mostly confusion right now, rather than actual problems
[04:51] <wobblywu> elkbuntu, i'm sure you're rational enough to realise this is an unfair depiction of how it'd actually go :)
[04:51] <wobblywu> anyway, i'm clogging up the -ops logs, *parts*
[04:52] <Hobbsee> voidedchick is sounding very much like a troll.  i see no evidence from the usual places, though
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[06:12] <Hobbsee> and he's gone too.
[07:11] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, the chap with the intelligent word in his username?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: don't remember.  there were 2
[08:12] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, the way he asked is nearly identical to the one last week
[08:13] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: yes, very convenient.
[08:13] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: but i would reforward it, so people have no need to ask in -offtopic
[08:13] <elkbuntu> yep, do so
[08:14] <Hobbsee> do i have access to?
[08:14]  * Hobbsee doesn't knwo hwo to
[08:16] <elkbuntu> nor i
[08:17] <Hobbsee> nalioth: can you fix that please?
[08:18] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: really, i'd treat it as an auto-kline channel or something.
[08:18]  * nalioth guesses what
[08:18] <Hobbsee> nalioth: reforward.  see /query
[08:25] <Hobbsee> nalioth: thanks
[14:44] <PriceChild> !hardy
[14:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:44] <Hobbsee> that's like....4 days away
[14:44] <Hobbsee> and LP is borken :(
[14:45] <ikonia> I'd be surprised of not having a delay
[14:45] <PriceChild> So when are we openning party back up? :P
[14:45] <Hobbsee> they shouldn't delay, i would think
[14:45] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: now's a good time.  *shrug*
[14:45] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: send all the AWTYers there.
[14:46] <ikonia> Hobbsee: i'll bet you a cake of your choice
[14:46] <ikonia> I hope they don't actually
[14:47] <PriceChild> awtyers?
[14:47] <PriceChild> ohh are we ther eyet
[14:48] <ompaul> PriceChild, open it up and make it mute take the mute off on Wed and put that in an announce in the topic saying that it is open for visitors but the mute comes off during the daytime UK time Wed 
[14:48] <ompaul> hehe
[14:49] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: yes
[14:49] <Hobbsee> ompaul: or you could just let them stew there.  They'd probably enjoy that.
[14:49] <ikonia> morning ompaul 
[14:50] <ompaul> ikonia, 3pm ;-)
[14:50] <ikonia> I know I know
[14:50] <ompaul> ikonia, :)
[14:50] <ompaul>  it is always morning on the internet
[14:50] <ikonia> it's 5:00......somehwere
[14:56] <Hobbsee> it doesn't look like that many bugs that aren't done.
[14:56] <Hobbsee> testing might get pretty tight, though
[14:57] <ikonia> chose your cake
[14:57] <ompaul> !cake | ikonia 
[14:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:57] <ompaul> the cake is a lie 
[14:57] <Hobbsee> chocolate mud cake, please.
[14:57] <ikonia> a good choice
[14:57] <Hobbsee> the cake is always a lie.
[14:57] <Hobbsee> ompaul: it's a pity you don't have a linode.
[14:58] <Hobbsee> ompaul: there, the cake is *not* a lie.
[14:58] <ompaul> Hobbsee, what is a linode
[14:58] <ompaul> hahahahahaha
[14:58] <Hobbsee> ompaul: a vps
[14:58] <ompaul> ahh 
[14:58] <Hobbsee> when you type cake into lish, it gives you a recipe.
[14:58] <Hobbsee> i haven't tried it yet.
[14:58] <Hobbsee> i'm thinking of doing so, though
[14:59] <ompaul>  /bin/sh makes assumptions which I personally don't like 
[14:59] <ompaul> I think if you want bash choose bash
[14:59] <ompaul> and dash dash
[15:01] <ikonia> thats a tough thing
[15:01] <ikonia> as all the distros link sh to different thing
[15:01] <ikonia> eg: bash, dash, openbourne
[15:02] <ompaul> aye
[15:02] <ompaul> I don't like it and haven't since csh was replaced with tcsh in FreeBSD ;-)
[15:03] <ompaul> i.e. before most people knew there was software things you could run on machines other than the one that came with it
[15:04] <ikonia> tcsh doesn't bother me that much because of it's compatability, so linux/hpux/solaris/aix etc can have a strong gable that scripts in csh will be cross-compatible
[15:04] <ikonia> but sh / bourne / bash / dash / ash / open bourne - well thats a mess
[15:06]  * Hobbsee thinks all scripts should be compatible with a posix compliant shell.  end of story.
[15:06] <Hobbsee> that being said, i'll keep my zsh, thanks.
[15:07] <ikonia> Hobbsee: that would be the ideal world
[15:07] <Hobbsee> ikonia: things are changing
[15:08] <ikonia> with time.....
[15:08] <Hobbsee> ikonia: lenny wants all scripts to be compatible with dash, and not contain bashisms - it's a release goal.
[15:08] <ikonia> a hardy release goal ?
[15:08] <Hobbsee> a lot of ubuntu stuff has been getting changed, as it fails to build
[15:08] <Hobbsee> no, a lenny release goal.
[15:08] <ikonia> ooh
[15:08] <ikonia> sorry
[15:08] <ikonia> thats achievable, but still quite hard
[15:10] <jdong> Hobbsee: I personally think all shell scripts should ask for a shell they will run on....
[15:11] <Hobbsee> jdong: crack.
[15:11] <jdong> :(
[15:11] <jdong> lol
[15:11] <Hobbsee> jdong: and you'd also like cpanplus interactive builds, i take it.
[15:11] <Hobbsee> that locked up a buildd for *3* days.
[15:11] <jdong> of course #!/bin/sh is only a non-bourne shell on Linux
[15:12] <jdong> lol nice
[15:12] <Hobbsee> very.
[15:17] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (blotto)
[16:27] <LjL> *sigh*
[16:27] <LjL> blotto is tobfaim, etc, it's the same old bot
[16:27] <LjL> do a /whois
[16:28] <PriceChild> tobfaim?
[16:29] <LjL> quite. it took me half an hour to get it k-lined, but it had been around for days (with a couple of nicknames) unhindered, doing markov-chains "artificial intelligence" in several channels
[16:31] <PriceChild> Lemme see if I can get something done.
[16:32] <Hobbsee> LjL: wonder if it's a bot of a well-known nick changer
[16:33] <LjL> Hobbsee: eh... he's a nick changing bot?
[16:33] <Hobbsee> and i don't mean frank.
[16:33] <LjL> well-known, i wouldn't say that
[16:33] <LjL> since it's been around since april 5 and most ops and staff barely noticed
[16:33] <LjL> it even talked right here in #ubuntu-ops
[16:33] <Hobbsee> LjL: see /query
[16:33] <Hobbsee> lovely
[16:34] <LjL> *and* it took people a while to ban it realizing it wasn't human even here
[16:35] <PriceChild> seems like it just cycled
[16:41] <LjL> (PM) [17:40:42] <LjL> hello there [17:41:02] <blotto> LjL: are no ebuilds to satisfy "=app-emulation/qemu-softmmu-0. 9. 0-r2"
[16:48] <Jucato> jussio1: please keep an eye on julie. I'm not sure if he/she is trolling or just plain clueless (either way she's starting to become annoying)
[16:48]  * Jucato is too tired.. won't last long
[16:48] <jussio1> heh, yeah
[16:48] <PriceChild> where is this?
[16:49] <jussio1> #k
[16:49] <Hobbsee> #kubuntu, most likely
[16:51]  * jussio1 hugs Jucato there we are :)
[16:58] <jussio1> Ok, im off for a bit. Julie looks a little trollish, so keep an eye on please. (#k and #k-ot)
[18:11] <Seveas> !hardy =~ s/- CONSIDER.* -/-/
[18:11] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[18:11] <Seveas> !hardy
[18:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:11] <Seveas> with the RC out, that's appropriate :)
[18:11] <ikonia> Seveas: when did it get RC status ?
[18:11] <Seveas> 2 days ago
[18:12] <ikonia> ooh really
[18:13] <ikonia> guess thats the punishment I have for going out this weekend
[18:20] <ubotu> In ubotu, Xengu said: !rape is an enjoyable experience that is sometimes also known as 'suprise sex'.
[18:21] <Myrtti> Erg
[18:21] <Myrtti> Get his ip
[18:22] <Myrtti> Please
[18:22] <Seeker`> -18:19:06- ~s~ Xengu > (n=Xengu@80-195-89-127.cable.ubr06.live.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #ubuntu
[18:23] <Seeker`> Myrtti: that what you wanted?
[18:23] <Myrtti> Im on mobile so I cant. Thanks Seeker
[18:23] <Myrtti> Yeah
[18:23] <Myrtti> Watch him close, as 
[18:24] <Myrtti> Soon as I get home Ill join #u again
[18:25] <Seeker`> He parted ubuntu 5 mins ago
[18:25] <Myrtti> Good.
[18:25] <Seeker`> He quit 4 seconds after sending that !rape thing
[18:25] <Myrtti> Ill still watch over  that hostname
[18:26] <Myrtti> Even better
[18:26] <Myrtti> Disgusting
[18:28] <ompaul> is that person banned?
[18:28] <ompaul> they are now
[18:29] <nalioth> it appears he caught a train
[18:31] <Seeker`> nalioth: what train might that be?
[18:32] <Seeker`> the ban train, the clue train or the k-line train?
[18:32] <nalioth> the k-line
[18:32] <Seeker`> ah, cool
[18:32]  * nalioth doesn't know any other type of train
[18:33] <Seeker`> shame about the lack of return tickets
[18:33] <Seeker`> :P
[18:33] <nalioth> ban hammer     clue bat      k-line
[18:34] <nalioth> not sure where trains fit into 'ban' and 'clue'
[18:35] <nalioth> but the k-line is right after the j-line and before the l-line
[19:20] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, crazytalk said: ubotu: that guide is wrong!
[19:21] <crazytalk> ubotu responds to 'that guide is wrong'?
[19:22] <stdin> [19:20]<ubotu> In #ubuntu, crazytalk said: ubotu: that guide is wrong!
[19:22] <stdin> it thinks you submitted a factiod
[19:22] <stdin> so it posts it for review
[19:23] <stdin> the trick is to not use the word "is" when talking to ubotu 
[19:23] <crazytalk> kk
[19:23] <crazytalk> what is a factoid?
[19:23] <stdin> the message it gives from commands, like
[19:23] <stdin> !ping
[19:24] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[19:24] <stdin> ^ factoid
[19:24] <stdin> !bot
[19:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:24] <stdin> see that link for more
[19:24] <nalioth> not a very good example
[19:24] <crazytalk> ubotu ireland is cool
[19:24] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, crazytalk said: ubotu ireland is cool
[19:24] <crazytalk> !ireland
[19:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ireland - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:25] <crazytalk> ubotu finger is dude smell my finger
[19:25] <stdin> like I said crazytalk, when you submit one it posts it here for review
[19:25] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, crazytalk said: ubotu finger is dude smell my finger
[19:25] <crazytalk> !finger
[19:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:25] <stdin> please don't abuse ubotu 
[19:25] <crazytalk> ok
[19:25] <crazytalk> lol
[19:25] <nalioth> crazytalk: to prevent abuse, only certain folks can enter factoids
[19:25] <crazytalk> ahh kk
[19:25] <crazytalk> like developers?
[19:25] <stdin> no, just certain people who maintain the factoid database
[19:26] <crazytalk> cool
[19:26] <crazytalk> sorry i didn't mean to abuse
[19:26] <crazytalk> thanks guys
[19:26] <crazytalk> keep on trucking! :)
[20:00] <Myrtti> [21:59] <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee  hacerist25@
[20:00] <Myrtti> [21:59] *** meliha [n=gulsum@88.254.51.220]
[20:00] <Myrtti> !msg
[20:00] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[20:01] <Myrtti> !msg > meliha
[20:01] <stdin> looks like I got the same from [dilseren] (n=hayal@85.97.199.29): emel
[20:13] <no0tic> meliha pm'ed me too
[20:16] <ompaul> that be spam
[20:26] <ompaul> nalioth, if you want to whack a mole <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee hacerist25@
[20:28] <AfterDeath> I'm getting odd spam from meliha (in #ubuntu)
[20:28] <AfterDeath> 19:27:47 <~meliha> Slm Benle D�r�stce Arkada�l�k Etmek �stiyorsan @@klkelee hacerist25@
[20:29] <AfterDeath> (this was in PM)
[20:32] <Myrtti> yes, we know
[20:32] <Myrtti> we've gotten it ourselves too
[20:48] <Seeker`> Got a random PM from meliha
[20:49] <PriceChild> Hey TuxIce, what's up?
[20:50] <TuxIce> whoa, how did i get into the ops channel
[20:50] <TuxIce> leaving now
[20:50] <PriceChild> look in your server window
[20:54] <MenZa> Spambot in #ubuntu. Keeps /query'ing me:
[20:54] <MenZa> [2008-04-20 21:53:53 CEST]  -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with meliha
[20:54] <MenZa> [2008-04-20 21:53:53 CEST]  <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan €€klkelee hacerist25@
[20:55] <MenZa> n=gulsum@88.254.51.220 <-
[21:02] <Seeker`> MenZa: A few people have mentioned it now
[21:02] <Myrtti> there
[21:02] <no0tic> here too, second time
[21:02] <Myrtti> [23:02] *** mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*n=gulsum@88.254.51.*] by Myrtti
[21:02] <Myrtti> [23:02] *** meliha was kicked from #ubuntu by Myrtti [Myrtti]
[21:02] <MenZa> Not surprised, Seeker`
[21:03] <MenZa> Thanks, Myrtti :)
[21:47] <LjL> [21:51:49] <meliha> Slm Benle Dürüstce Arkadaþlýk Etmek Ýstiyorsan klkelee hacerist25@ <- PM, banned
[21:48] <Myrtti> again?
[21:49] <LjL> no, sorry i just connected. i thought he wasn't banned since my ban went through, but that's just because you had banned with a different mask
[22:13] <Seeker`> bug in a factoid
[22:13] <Seeker`> !awn
[22:13] <ubotu> awn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe in Hardy
[22:16] <Seveas> !awn =~ s/R/r/
[22:16] <ubotu> Nothing changed there
[22:16] <Seveas> meh
[22:16]  * PriceChild fixed it
[22:24] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, rodserling said: !twss is <reply> That's What Seveas Said
[22:25] <ompaul> hehe no that is not going in the bot
[22:25] <Seveas> :)
[22:30] <LjL> i wouldn't be so sure
[22:32] <vorian> haha
[22:32] <vorian> that's fantastic
[22:58] <LjL> i have a feeling this irc_morons guy is some old aquaintance
[22:58] <Seveas> I share that feeling
[23:00] <Seveas> mrt 05 06:21:29 <--	HILLARY_CLINTON (n=axe@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by tritium: "Politics are offtopic here.  Thanks.")
[23:00] <Seveas> apr 20 00:43:57 -->	The-Huge-Dahng (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net) has joined #ubuntu
[23:02] <LjL> Seveas: yes, i should learn from you to grep the logs stright away rather than trying to reload some dumb bantracker :P
[23:02] <Seveas> :)
[23:10] <LjL> i'd never mixed up spanish with portuguese before :(
[23:10] <LjL> aaah seveas
[23:10] <LjL> it's ccvp
[23:10] <Seveas> ah
[23:10] <LjL> [Sat Apr 12 2008] [22:19:46] Join       ccvp has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).
[23:10] <LjL> [Sun Apr 20 2008] [00:43:59] Join       The-Huge-Dahng has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).
[23:10] <LjL> [Sun Apr 20 2008] [23:47:14] Join       IRC_MORONS has joined this channel (n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net).
[23:10] <LjL> [Sun Apr 20 2008] [23:57:35] Whois      IRC_MORONS is n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net (Owner)
[23:10] <LjL> [Mon Apr 21 2008] [00:08:20] Whois      IRC_MORONS is n=Owner@user-24-214-126-81.knology.net (Owner)
[23:11] <ikonia> IRC_MORONS> :(){:|:&};:
[23:11] <ikonia> was that some sort of explout attempt ?
[23:11] <ikonia> LjL: I have ccvp on my list of known "issues
[23:11] <ikonia> Irssi: Offline: kenthomson, lightbook, topo, crozar, ccvp, Agent_Bob, naudiz, white_eagle, fullmon-t, chuy, arrg, MeNoS, tocar2ta, unagi, flea, bacta, kahrytan, gfetco, ted`, ted1
[23:11] <ikonia> ccvp is in there
[23:12] <LjL> ikonia: we have ccvp on the list of known permbanned people :P
[23:12] <LjL> but apparently we still manage to miss them
[23:12] <ikonia> ahhh
[23:12] <Seveas> ip address changed
[23:15] <Seeker`> ikonia: That is a fork bomb
[23:16] <ikonia> Seeker`: what does it do ?
[23:17] <LjL> oh, and folks, seriously - IMPORTANT - if you see someone who answers things semi-randomly (with phrases that almost make sense but not quite), it's most likely a bot that's been around lately
[23:17] <LjL> check /whois, it'll probably be in other channels too (#gentoo, ##javascript to name a couple)
[23:17] <Seeker`> heh, or one of a few other peopleI  know :P
[23:17] <LjL> ban on sight and report to freenode. you can check it's a bot by PM'ing, they'd answer within a minute with a random sentence
[23:17] <Seveas> I've banned that bot a few times already
[23:18] <Seeker`> ikonia: If you run it in a shell, it spawns copies of itself in an infinite loop, it uses up all your memory / CPU
[23:18] <Seeker`> ikonia: And it usually spawns new threads so quickly that by the time you realise what it does, your computer is too slow to stop it
[23:19] <ikonia> how nice
[23:22] <Seeker`> yeah, its not much more than an annoyance really
[23:22] <Seeker`> but it is still bad and wrong
[23:22] <ikonia> LjL: now a little time has passed, how do you find the ext3 recovery factoid being used and the people that are using it (if you know)
[23:24] <LjL> ikonia: it's been used a total of 22 times, that's about all i know :)
[23:25] <ikonia> rubbish ;)
[23:25] <ikonia> i only ask as someone was in channel asking about it
[23:25] <Seveas> !-ext3
[23:25] <ubotu> ext3 has no aliases - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 21:35:14
[23:25] <LjL> !recover
[23:25] <ubotu> Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although a method that might work in some cases is described at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html