[00:00] <Flyzoola> Pelo. I can't find the resolution part to edit. I went to find and said "phrase not found"
[00:00]  * Pelo has 20 linux manual o pens on his  an he looks everyitng up 
[00:00] <Lainy> !zh | shejuexi
[00:00] <ubotu> shejuexi: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[00:00] <shejuexi> 大家好
[00:00] <notluke> Greetings!  I'm having a little trouble getting slapd to work with TLS on ubuntu...  gnutls doesn't seem to be as well documented as openssl.
[00:00] <notluke> Does anyone know what format the cert/keyfiles need to be in?
[00:00] <JohninLex> lol pelo
[00:00] <ccvp> ?????/ what in the world
[00:00] <ccvp> I am so sick of this commercial
[00:00] <ccvp> ugh
[00:00] <shejuexi> 我的wordpress怎样上传文件
[00:00] <ccvp> http://youtube.com/watch?v=onvtaOKZ01c
[00:00] <FloodBot2> ccvp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <Pelo> Flyzoola, it doesn't say resolution , it ust looks like a bunch of numbers,  but you probably donT' have that, close xorg.conf and get back to the destkp
[00:00] <JohninLex> so what was the gh3 that azira was talking about
[00:01] <fxfitz> Is there a way to generate a brandnew xorg file?
[00:01] <ccvp> Floating BurgerKing, robotic futuristic
[00:01] <ubuntu> I'm on a livecd, but I have a fairly new nVidia card (the 9600)
[00:01] <Pelo> Flyzoola, go in menu > system > admin > restricted driver ,  see if you are using the restricted driver
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> ccvp, Please STOP
[00:01] <Pelo> fxfitz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:01] <CarlFK> what will view a .psd ?  (Adobe PhotoShop )
[00:01] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, why no just show him who's the boss ?
[00:01] <dtolj> CarlFK: did you try opening with GIMP
[00:01] <fxfitz> Pelo, Hm. It says I don't have xserver-xorg on. :(
[00:02] <Pelo> CarlFK, probabaly the gimp
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> :)  Hopefully he will listen
[00:02] <fxfitz> Pelo, But I just did apt-get install gnome... does it not put xorg on there too?
[00:02] <ubuntu> so it won't boot into graphical mode. How can I either A: install the driver to the livecd without rebooting or B: install from the command line?
[00:02] <Pelo> fxfitz, are you running a machine without a gui ?
[00:02] <Flyzoola> Pelo, it syas I don't need any restricted drivers
[00:02] <fxfitz> Pelo, Well I'm trying to install it now, actually. I just installed Server version.
[00:02] <Pelo> fxfitz, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[00:02] <CarlFK> dtolj, Pelo: - gimp worked.  thanks
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[00:03] <FluxD> Can anyone tell me how to connect to a fluxbox session using the nx client ?
[00:03] <Pelo> Flyzoola, how did you get your video to work the last time ?
[00:03] <MrSteve> me is back now
[00:03] <MrSteve> omg
[00:03] <MrSteve> unetbootin is a trip
[00:03] <Pelo> FluxD, try asking in #fluxbox maybe
[00:03] <dtolj> FluxD: nx?
[00:03] <Flyzoola> plugged it in. My dad told me he moved the computer and the chord had became unplugged. So I plugged it back in and it was all small and retarded
[00:03] <ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks :D
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:04] <Pelo> Flyzoola, ok just do the reconfigure mentitoned earlier,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it pick the answers
[00:04] <shejuexi> hello
[00:04]  * Pelo gives shejuexi  a hoody and hands him a glass of coolaid 
[00:05] <Flyzoola> Pelo, "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root"
[00:05] <Pelo> Flyzoola, start with sudo dpkg .....
[00:05] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a max number of mice I can use at one time?
[00:05] <Pelo> Seven_Six_Two, I would assume two unless you have more hands
[00:05] <FluxD> dtolj, nomachine.com
[00:05] <MrSteve> File service drivers would not load, and the OS exited out to a command line, then exited that, and asked me for a password.. on a black screen,, a Login.. which I gave, but it said my login/pass was incorrect
[00:05] <fyrmedic> or four if you use wheel mice
[00:06] <Pelo> MrSteve, caplocks ?
[00:06] <MrSteve> Pelo I tried numlock button.. I was aware of caps.. when I issued the system login/pass
[00:07] <Pelo> MrSteve, that's the only idea I have but you said this was netboot ? it might be related
[00:07] <MrSteve> Pelo -- I think the core is there, but the desktop may not be.. the UnetBootin would not install softwares
[00:07] <Seven_Six_Two> Pelo, thanks. I'll have to find more hands. I actually meant having my pc (2 monitors + tv) with mouse/trackball and drawing tablet connected and sitting at the seats I would use them at
[00:07] <MrSteve> Pelo - Unetbootin asked me for a Hostname, also
[00:07] <Pelo> MrSteve, I'm not even sure what unetbootin is sorry
[00:07] <fxfitz> Does anyone know of like a website that has a database of known monitor refresh rates?
[00:08] <MrSteve> eh.. get up on it.. I mean, it is a good way to install Ubuntu
[00:08] <Seven_Six_Two> fxfitz, probably the manufacturer's site
[00:08] <notluke> Ok, got an easy one: How do you list the files that were installed by a package installed by aptitude?
[00:08] <Lainy> Hello, in urxvt when I type alt+s, I get "scrollback search" but I want alt+s to open up a channel window in irssi. How do I disale this urxvt key binding? Thanks.
[00:08] <Pelo> Seven_Six_Two, I don'T actualy think there is a limit they just all need to be listed in xorg.conf I think but I am no expert
[00:08] <MrSteve> errrgh.. I say good.  in principle
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fxfitz, If I did, I would not trut them.  I would still look up my specific monotor specs from the mfg
[00:08] <Pelo> notluke, try  looking in /var/log/dpkg
[00:08] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. I'll just try it. it seems ok with 2 right now
[00:09] <bbyever> notluke: in synaptic select the package installed and then right-click properties
[00:09] <Pelo> Lainy, try searching in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:09] <notluke> Pelo: There is mention of the package being installed, but it doesn't call out any of the files it actually wrote out.  Not as far as I can tell anyway.
[00:09] <MrSteve> I'm gonna run Unetbootin again, since XP will boot up
[00:09] <Pelo> notluke, that's all I had
[00:09] <notluke> Well, thanks for the pointer.
[00:10] <notluke> The most useful line in there is: 2008-04-19 16:07:01 status installed gnutls-doc 2.0.4-1ubuntu2
[00:10] <notluke> But I don't know where it actually put the docs!
[00:10] <bbyever> notluke: in synaptic select the package installed and then right-click properties
[00:10] <notluke> bbyever: I'm not running X on this machine, so I'm using aptitude.  Can I still retreive that info?
[00:10] <Pelo> bbyever, he wants a list of packages that were installed
[00:10] <notluke> I suppose I could try.  Heh.
[00:11] <bbyever> notluke: im not user, havent used aptitude
[00:11] <MrSteve> ya.. it ran apt on my install
[00:11] <notluke> Pelo: I'm actually looking for the list of files that were installed when the package was installed.
[00:11] <Joeseph> what is the best program to play midi files?
[00:11] <x0x> hello. my home dir is chmod 700. so any body cant see my site. can you tell me what chmod i need to set?
[00:11] <bbyever> Pelo: the properties in synaptic give what he was looking for
[00:11] <notluke> like rpm -qp or pkg_info -f.
[00:11] <Animortis> Can update-rc.d overwrite other init scripts?
[00:11] <Pelo> notluke, ahh.... like dependencies and such ,  then bbyever's idea will work
[00:12]  * Pelo can learns not just support
[00:12] <notluke> Well, not dependencies, really.  I installed a documentation package.  Now I want to find the documentation it installed.
[00:12] <kakashi-sempai> joseph , kmid , timidity
[00:12] <Pelo> notluke, usualy it's manpages I beleive
[00:12] <Seven_Six_Two> x0x, the digits, in order represent owner, group and world
[00:12] <santa11> whassup faggots?
[00:12] <santa11> suck mah dick
[00:12] <MrSteve> oo.. yeah, this is bash..stuff.. yep, manpages
[00:12] <Pelo> !ops | santa11
[00:12] <ubotu> santa11: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[00:13] <J-Unit> santa11, lol
[00:13] <x0x> Seven_Six_Two, visit my site and see http://www.hotircchat.com/ its saying forbidden. what chmod i need to set my home dir to fix it?
[00:13] <santa11> !ops J-Unit
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops j-unit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <Animortis> Rather, if I did a update-rc.d prgram default can it kill another program on startup?
[00:13] <ubuntu> is Jack_Sparrow still here?
[00:13] <MrSteve> Pelo - see ya in a bit, if bazhang_ gets in wake'em up.. I need a hand.
[00:13] <mark[oz]> after the last updates, my system is all wacky.. things are really slow and applicaitons are loading with no content in their windows
[00:13] <Seven_Six_Two> probably 644
[00:14] <Pelo> ubuntu, not paying attention apparently
[00:14] <mark[oz]> I haven't installed anything for a while.. any one having similar problems?
[00:14] <santa11> nigger lips
[00:14] <Pelo> mark[oz], update or upgrade ?
[00:14] <mark[oz]> update
[00:14] <Pelo> mark[oz],  run the update again
[00:14] <mark[oz]> system update
[00:14] <santa11> nigger lips
[00:14] <Swish> santa11, go away
[00:14] <Pelo> !ops
[00:14] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[00:14] <santa11> suck mah dick
[00:15] <santa11> with your
[00:15] <santa11> nigger lips
[00:15] <mark[oz]> !ops santa11
[00:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops santa11 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:15] <bbyever> !kops
[00:15] <DIL> your white dick is too small
[00:15] <mark[oz]> Pelo, terminology sucks.. update = updating sources, upgrade = downloading packages to update the system..
[00:15] <santa11> shh nig nog
[00:15] <mark[oz]> Pelo, I did an upgrade
[00:15] <santa11> nigger lips
[00:15] <mark[oz]> sudo apt-get install upgrade
[00:15] <ubuntu> Pelo, perhaps you can help. I have a 9600, so the drivers aren't working on the livecd. It goes to boot into graphical and says it needs to use low settings, then goes back to the command prompt and it's stuck on "Starting Gnome Manager..."
[00:16] <Pelo> mark[oz],  ok open the terminal and run sudo apt-get update again
[00:16] <Seven_Six_Two> x0x, each digit is made by adding the permissions that each group gets. 4 for read, 2 for write and 1 for execute.
[00:16] <Twilt> Hello
[00:16] <Pelo> ubuntu, a 9600 what ?
[00:16] <mark[oz]> Pelo, I didn't run update
[00:16] <ubuntu> PElo and in TTY 1, it says Running local boot scripts. and the nVidia 9600 video card
[00:16] <Pelo> mark[oz], run one now
[00:16] <Twilt> I have a question.  How long does Wubi stay on the Grub OS Selection menu by default?
[00:16] <J-Unit> lol u ppl r so racist
[00:16] <Animortis> I did an update-rc.d <program> defaults on a new program to initialize it and now my FTP server doesn't start when I boot.
[00:16] <J-Unit> unless ur jk..
[00:17] <mark[oz]> Pelo, what did that achieve?
[00:17] <mark[oz]> I know have updated sources
[00:17] <Animortis> Does anyone know why?
[00:17] <Pelo> ubuntu, dl and burn the alternate install cd,    on the ubuntu site , same palce as the other just check the alternate cd box blow the dl button,    it's a text based installer
[00:17] <Pelo> mark[oz], it will check for pakcages taht need update since you upgraded
[00:17] <ubuntu> Pelo, thanks :D
[00:17] <Pelo> Animortis, does anyone know what ?
[00:17] <Animortis> I did an update-rc.d <program> defaults on a new program to initialize it and now my FTP server doesn't start when I boot.
[00:17] <gogeta> ubuntu tthats the easy way but can also crash x reconfigure it without dri
[00:18] <Animortis> THat
[00:18] <gogeta> ubuntu and start it again
[00:18] <Fusaaki> Hello evryone
[00:18] <Fusaaki> I have a question that is hopefully simple.
[00:18] <mark[oz]> uhmm Pelo wtf, do you run ubuntu?
[00:18] <Pelo> Animortis,  just start the ftp sever , close everyting you donT' wan tto start at boot,  goto menu > system > prefs > session, last tab , save session , reboot
[00:18] <Pelo> mark[oz], yes
[00:18] <Zeker> ok guys, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu... I tried playing some mp3's and vids and it asks for codecs.  What's the best way to obtain them, and how can I get them?
[00:18] <Pelo> Fusaaki, just ask
[00:19] <gogeta> mark[oz] we all do
[00:19] <mark[oz]> gogeta, are you sure?
[00:19] <Pelo> !mp3 | Zeker
[00:19] <ubotu> Zeker: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:19] <daeg0003> pelo, I modified the xorg. config file to set SHMConfig true and then rebooted even. gsynaptics still complains that i havent set the option to true.
[00:19] <Zeker> !mp3
[00:19] <Pelo> mark[oz], please don'T do that
[00:19] <jellyware> morning everyone
[00:19] <Fusaaki> I have the live disk of kubuntu and unbuntu. Both run great as live. So I try to install it. Everything runs smoothly, then it goes to scanning disks or w/e and it gets stuck and freezes up @ 50%.
[00:20] <Hydra_> hey people. So I decided to switch to Ubuntu, because Windows is awfully slow on my lap top and i wanted to try something new. but, it wont install on my laptop
[00:20] <Fusaaki> I have 2 hdds, that work fine in Windows
[00:20] <Pelo> deadlock, might be a syntax issue,  chekc other variables in the file,  caps, and spaces might be an issue,  I'm not an expert on that one
[00:20] <Pelo> Fusaaki, during the install ?
[00:20] <Fusaaki> correct
[00:21] <Pelo> Fusaaki, the alternate install cd is usualy less demanding on hardware , it might work better then the live cd in this case
[00:21] <Fusaaki> It happens on both Ubuntu and kubuntu and It wont let me mount the Hdds (ones sata and one is ide)
[00:21] <Fusaaki> So try the install only disk?
[00:21] <gogeta> Pelo alt install = text mode installer
[00:21] <Pelo> gogeta,  since when ?
[00:21] <gogeta> Pelo its the same in the end but at least you can make ystem changes
[00:21] <Pelo> gogeta, nvm
[00:21] <Fusaaki> my hardware is quite capable though. ~2Gs ram, dual core 2.2s 64bit
[00:22] <gogeta> Pelo LOL!
[00:22] <Pelo> Fusaaki,  that's my suggestion ,
[00:22] <Hydra_> i downloaded the 700 MB package, and when I try to run the installer it says "unable to find any appropriate cd"
[00:22] <Zeker> does the ubuntu restricted formats package also support xvid and all those video codecs?
[00:22] <Pelo> gogeta,  I know what the alternate install cd is thank you
[00:22] <DIL> sata fusakki
[00:22] <Fusaaki> okay thanks pelo, hopefully I wont have to come back
[00:22] <Fusaaki> what dil?
[00:22] <ManuP> !tell ManuP about rsync
[00:22] <DIL> sata drives
[00:22] <Pelo> Hydra_, 700 mb pacage of what ?
[00:22] <Fusaaki> 1 sata and 1 ide
[00:22] <Fusaaki> I am trying to install on the IDE
[00:22] <Hydra_> the Ubuntu download
[00:22] <DIL> ok
[00:22] <Fusaaki> should I format the IDE before entering the live?
[00:22] <Hydra_> I just downloaded it from the official site
[00:23] <Pelo> Hydra_,it 's an image , youdon'T jsut copy it to a cd you need to "burn image" with your cd app
[00:23] <Cusoon959> Could someone help me with compiling spca5xx? http://pastebin.com/m32caeb13 << I get this error...
[00:23] <Zambezi> rsync between AMD Duron 800 and P4 2,8 shouldn't be as slow as 3,5 MB/s right?
[00:23] <Hydra_> Wait.. so, I need to burn everything to a CD?
[00:24] <daeg0003> can anyone tell me how to run gsynaptics so the SHMConfig true error doesnt pop up? made the modification to xorg.conf but it keeps saying i need to
[00:24] <Pelo> Cusoon959, no need, the latest version is in the repos,   just open synaptic and search for webcam the pacakge is gspcaxx I beleive
[00:24] <Hydra_> sorry for my extreme noobness
[00:24] <Fusaaki> hydra, take the .iso file and find a burning program to "mount" the iso to disk
[00:24] <Cusoon959> Pelo, ah, thank you :)
[00:24] <Pelo> daeg0003, check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:24] <Hydra_> Ok. It can be any kind of disc, right? Like a CDRW?
[00:24] <ng0n> does a new MB require format the disk and re-install OS ?
[00:25] <Pelo> Hydra_, it can be,  but try with one that hasn'T been used to much ,  they are notorious for not bieing reliable
[00:25] <con-man> how do I kill a process, kill 19415 doesnt work
[00:25] <con-man> it wont go away
[00:25] <Nomad> Hello,
[00:25] <Hydra_> Yeah I'll use a fresh one
[00:25] <con-man> and I cant start firefox till the old one is gone
[00:25] <Pelo> ng0n, I think the mb will be autodetected on boot
[00:25] <Hydra_> So, burn the .iso to the disk, and then what
[00:25] <ng0n> rr.
[00:25] <ng0n> it boots.  but it won't run the OS
[00:25] <bbyever> Hydra_:  also be sure to burn it as an iso image, not a data cd
[00:25] <ng0n> sees the drives, sees the net.
[00:25] <Pelo> con-man, sudo killall -9 firefox
[00:25] <Zambezi> Hydra_: You burn it as an image.
[00:26] <ng0n> runs UBUNTU live.
[00:26] <Hydra_> ok, right.
[00:26] <ng0n> errors out on the grub selections.
[00:26] <extern> I have a dvd-video cd and I can't get it to play on linux, vlc crashes unexpectedly without any error, mplayer freezes and totem movie player says "an error occured, could not read from resource." The DVD isn't faulty and it works fine on windows
[00:26] <bbyever> Hydra_: then you put in your computer and reboot it
[00:26] <Hydra_> alright
[00:26] <Hydra_> and it'll start up?
[00:26] <Pelo> ng0n, try stating your problem in one line,  you make no sense
[00:26] <bbyever> Hydra_: make sure you have the option to boot from cd enabled
[00:26] <ng0n> will run UBUNTU repair.  won't run X
[00:26] <Cusoon959> Pelo, the only packages with spca/gscpa are gscpa-source and spca5xx-source (yes, I have universe enabled.)
[00:27] <ng0n> new video card, card bus.
[00:27] <Pelo> Cusoon959, gscpa source I guess
[00:27] <Zarvox> hi all
[00:27] <Cusoon959> Pelo, then I'm gonna have to compile it XD
[00:27] <con-man> pelo: firefox: no process killed
[00:27] <SeaPhor> Pelo: all went well with /home directory, but now i re-installed an app and cant find the way to start it? any help?
[00:27] <Pelo> Cusoon959, no , it will install
[00:27] <Pelo> con-man,  reboot
[00:28] <Pelo> SeaPhor, what app ?
[00:28] <Zarvox> could you help me, i want to reinstall grub on an external hd
[00:28] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Cedega
[00:28] <Pelo> Zarvox, ask in #grub
[00:28] <con-man> Pelo: no thanks
[00:28] <Pelo> SeaPhor, not in the menus ?  type it in the teminal , if it starts make a menu entry manualy in  sys > prefs > main menu
[00:29] <con-man> pelo: linux is better than windows, I shouldnt have to reboot for stuff like that
[00:29] <ng0n> i wonder if the LIVE cd will let me install over an old install without formatting.
[00:29] <Pelo> con-man,  I just don'T remember the other way to kill the process
[00:29] <DIL> it will ask any way
[00:29] <ng0n> i hate to lose all my stuff.
[00:29] <ng0n> ;)
[00:29] <Pelo> ng0n,  it wil format the / partiton,  if your /home is on a seperate partiton it will be safe
[00:30] <DIL> ng0n, BACKUP first
[00:30] <Ximal> how do I have all my ip's release and renew ?
[00:30] <ng0n> ok. tnx. (crud!)
[00:30] <ng0n> rr on backup.
[00:30] <ng0n> i can do that.
[00:30] <ng0n> i tried to sneak a new MB into an old install.  no go.
[00:30] <Pelo> ng0n, just boot the live cd and move the /home to a seperate partiton , that is all you can reinstall after
[00:31] <SeaPhor> Pelo: not starting in terminal, and not showing anywhere in main menu under sys/prefs
[00:31] <ex17> 5 days for stable release?
[00:31] <ng0n> ok.
[00:31] <unop> Ximal, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  # ought to do it
[00:31] <ng0n> got it.
[00:31] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no idea then ,  are you sure it is installed ?
[00:31] <ng0n> bye !
[00:31] <Pelo> ex17, more or less
[00:31] <Hydra_> I can burn the cd on my desktop and take it over to my laptop right?
[00:31] <ex17> thanks Pelo
[00:32] <julle_> I'm having trouble resetting the window borders on the Human Theme back to the original. cant understand why it do not work
[00:32] <SeaPhor> Pelo: i even installed again, says was successfull, whats the command to show all installed apps?
[00:32] <Pelo> julle_,  using desktop effects ?
[00:32] <julle_> Pelo: correct
[00:32] <Zambezi> Anyone with chanop in #ubuntu+1? There's an asshole there just trolling an people are starting to get fed up.
[00:33] <julle_> Pelo: i have also applied an Emerald Theme, but i removed that one
[00:33] <Pelo> julle_,you probaly need to turn of the decorator , or turn it on ,  ask in #compiz they will be able to tell you for sure
[00:33] <julle_> Pelo: Thank you!
[00:33] <Cusoon959> Could someone help with this? http://pastebin.com/m32caeb13 << I get this error when compiling spca5xx... gspca does not work with my cam.
[00:33] <DIL> hydra, you are not using matches are you
[00:34] <Hydra_> haha
[00:34] <Pelo> Cusoon959, and insatlling it from synaptic doesn' work ?
[00:34] <Hydra_> nah, I'm not quite that dumb
[00:34] <Cusoon959> Pelo, as I said before, installing the spca5xx source package does NOT install the driver, but rather downloads the source to /usr/src/something.tar.gz. When I try to compile that source, I get the error I pastebin'd
[00:34] <DIL> hydra_ just kidding, once you burn the cd it can be used oanywhere
[00:35] <SeaPhor> Pelo: weird, it kept my Crossover app but not my Cedega?
[00:35] <foibles> whats a snazzy launcher?
[00:35] <foibles> namely for openbox
[00:35] <Pelo> Cusoon959, runing make with sudo ?
[00:35] <Cusoon959> Pelo, I have tried with and without sudo. Same error.
[00:36] <SeaPhor> whats the command to show all installed apps?
[00:36] <zippytech> any one know how to make mythtv volume adjust faster
[00:36] <DIL> Hydra_, just kidding once you burn the cd it can be used anywhere
[00:36] <Pelo> SeaPhor, cross overwas probably on the /home partiton,  you'll need to reinstall cedega
[00:36] <Pelo> Cusoon959, I have no idea, sorry,
[00:36] <Cusoon959> np
[00:36] <zippytech> sorry
[00:36] <Pelo> SeaPhor,   dpkg --get-selections > mypackages
[00:36] <SeaPhor> Pelo: i did, and Cedega was also on /home, all the .cedega (hidden) files are still there
[00:37] <Pelo> SeaPhor, those are your settings files, the apps are not in there
[00:37] <SeaPhor> Pelo: dpkg --get-selections > mypackages didnt do anything?
[00:38] <Hydra_> yay!
[00:38] <Hydra_> teh Ubuntu works
[00:38] <Hydra_> :D
[00:38] <Pelo> SeaPhor, it put a file called mypackages in your /home with the list of apps in it
[00:38] <Hydra_> thanks for the help guys
[00:38] <Pelo> Hydra_, our pleasure
[00:38] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ohh, sorry i did tell u i'm a n00b right?
[00:38] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no reason you would know
[00:39] <penny1> Looking for assistance setting up NFS, any takers?
[00:39] <sonik887> Hey, is this an appropriate forum to ask a question about my Ubuntu install?  I set it up dual-booting with Vista on an empty partition (8.04 RC) and Ubuntu _always_ gets my hard drive numbering wrong when installing grub.
[00:39] <Cusoon959> Could someone help with this? http://pastebin.com/m32caeb13 << I get this error when compiling spca5xx... gspca does not work with my cam.
[00:39] <Ashfire908> I messed around with this one-line midi keyboard shell/bash thing and now i have no sound.
[00:39] <unop> !8.04 | sonik887
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > sonik887
[00:39] <ubotu> sonik887: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:39] <Pelo> sonik887, that's a grub issue try asking in #grub
[00:39] <sonik887> ah, cool.  thanks :D
[00:40] <Pelo> !sound | Ashfire908
[00:40] <ubotu> Ashfire908: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:40] <lg21> hi
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, Post the one line command you were playing with
[00:40] <Ashfire908> while read -sn1 p;do s="";for((i=0;i<$p;i++));do s=x$s;done; yes $s > /dev/audio 2>/dev/null&sleep 0.1;killall yes;done | >/dev/null
[00:40] <NorD> hello , i changet dpi in wine, how i can back iit ? xDDD
[00:40] <Ashfire908> (that command is not an invation to use it.
[00:41] <sparkybean> lol
[00:41] <Pelo> NorD, ask in #winehq
[00:41] <Ashfire908> i added the " | >/dev/null part to get rid of the text output it usally makes
[00:41] <Cusoon959> Ashfire908, Heh, what does that one do?
[00:42] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  you can usualy do -q for quiet
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, Looks like you need to /join #Alsa to see what that did to your sound...
[00:43] <unop> | >/dev/null - might not be doing what you expect it to be doing
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> unop, agreed..
[00:43] <unop> infact i'd be surprised if it even did what you expected it to do :)
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[00:44]  * Pelo needs to figure out how to ignore the bot,  /ignore doesn't work 
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > pelo    :)
[00:44] <sonik887> been playing with 8.04 RC for a day or so now.  it's fantastic.  :D  much improved over previous versions and other distros.
[00:44] <mirak> is there a way to obtain a random available socket number from a shell command ?
[00:44] <lg21> Question: is it possible that my Duo T2300 works on different MHz on different cores? For example I can set 1 GHz on core 1 and 1.33 GHz on core 2 (I mean - is it technically possible)?
[00:44] <d> is anyone available to help me get my wireless working??
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, cheap shot.. sorry
[00:45] <lg21> d: which wireless?
[00:45] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  you spawned two seperate pm windows with that ,  I will never forgive you
[00:45] <unop> mirak, network socket?
[00:45] <josh> is anyone available to help me get my wireless working??
[00:45] <unop> ha ha
[00:45] <lg21> josh: WHICH wireless?
[00:45] <Pelo> !wifi | josh
[00:45] <ubotu> josh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:45] <Cusoon959> Ashfire908, just tried that command, works fine over here :P and makes cool sounds when I press numbers XD
[00:45] <josh> ive tried all those walkthroughs and none work
[00:45] <OldMarLaw> hello all
[00:46] <josh> i have a dlink dwl g630 v b
[00:46] <mirak> unop: yes
[00:46] <josh> i cant even get it to connect to unencrypted, it just sits there
[00:46] <OldMarLaw> people, how hard is to get support for more than 3.x gigs of ram on linux 32bit ?
[00:46] <Ashfire> what was the last msg i sent?
[00:46] <OldMarLaw> I heard its possible using extentions
[00:46] <sonatso> josh: do the drivers work on linux?
[00:47] <Cusoon959> Could someone help with this? http://pastebin.com/m32caeb13 << I get this error when compiling spca5xx... gspca does not work with my cam.
[00:47] <josh> linux installed drivers automatically
[00:47] <sonatso> josh: what drivers?
[00:47] <zbyszek> what is apache2 user ?
[00:47] <josh> acx_pci is the driver
[00:47] <zbyszek> i have to chmod so apache can write so what user is apache ?
[00:47] <josh> and it is wlan0
[00:47] <Electric> Hola alguien habla Español?¿?¿?¿?¿
[00:48] <sparkybean> www-data
[00:48] <zbyszek> thnx
[00:48] <jeffMASTERflex> !es | Electric
[00:48] <ubotu> Electric: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:48] <Ashfire908> your kidding me...
[00:48] <sonatso> josh: did you check your wireless router?
[00:48] <Electric> Gracias!
[00:48] <josh> router works just fine on this same laptop with XP
[00:48] <Ashfire908> the pcm volume was muted...
[00:48] <josh> i have WPA2 runing
[00:49] <sparkybean> lol :D
[00:49]  * Ashfire908 never muted it though...
[00:49] <eZe> anybody here ever have a problem with multiplayer games + router = periodical ping 999?
[00:49] <ColdBeer> how do i make my ubuntu feel like a mac?
[00:49] <lg21> eZe: lol.. nope
[00:49] <josh> if i try the manual connection it does nothing once I exit the gui
[00:49] <Pelo> josh, wifi maker make their hardware for windows,   linux is still catching up a bit on the plug and play stuff, give it a chance
[00:49] <Pelo> !theme | ColdBeer
[00:49] <ubotu> ColdBeer: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[00:49] <ICQnumber> !es | Electric
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, cairo dock
[00:49] <ubotu> Electric: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:49] <sonatso> josh: if you have WPA, why do you want unencrypted?
[00:49] <Zeker_> my mouse disappears whenever ubuntu is loading something, can anyone help please?
[00:49] <Ashfire908> also my sound configuration was changed to something called [that "ALSA (sound whatevert" thing] (custom)
[00:50] <josh> i dont want it unencrypted just turned wpa off to test
[00:50] <josh> still didnt connect to it
[00:50] <YourNightmare> sorry, I'm trying to burn a cd with graveman but for some reason it seems to think its in /dev/sg0 and it's in /dev/scd0... any clues?
[00:50] <YourNightmare> Cannot create image: scsidev: '0,1,0'
[00:50] <YourNightmare> scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
[00:50] <YourNightmare> /usr/bin/readcd: Permission denied. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open or use SCSI driver.
[00:50] <YourNightmare> /usr/bin/readcd: For possible targets try 'readcd -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
[00:50] <YourNightmare> /usr/bin/readcd: For possible transport specifiers try 'readcd dev=help'. it says
[00:50] <FloodBot1> YourNightmare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <Pelo> did the floodbot just ban YourNightmare ?
[00:50] <ColdBeer> hey jack, whats the package name?
[00:50] <josh> are there any commands i can run to check if the card is configured properly?
[00:50] <YourNightmare> Pelo, I think not. Sorry
[00:50] <sparkybean> no
[00:51] <Nomad> Hello, is there any way with kvm to run a non iso dir? ( have a /virtuals/disk1.img ) wich contains a whole filesystem
[00:51] <sparkybean> :)
[00:51] <josh> im on my desktop right now with the laptop next to me running the Live CD
[00:51] <kakashi-sempai> 1;2c/help
[00:51] <Pelo> YourNightmare, nothing personnal, I 'm just trying to make an /ignore for it cause it's annoying
[00:51] <sonatso> josh: if your router is set up for WPA, you can't connect to the router without using wpa
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, I dont think it is in there.. I got it from soundforge I think
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !info cairo
[00:51] <ubotu> Package cairo does not exist in gutsy
[00:51] <josh> i know but I cant connect with WPA in ubuntu
[00:51] <Zeker_> I have no sound on my system, can anybody help?
[00:51] <josh> it does nothing
[00:51] <DIL> ColdBeer: goole it there are good tutorials on how to do it
[00:51] <ColdBeer> !info cairo
[00:51] <crimsun> Zeker_: which Ubuntu version?
[00:52] <josh> 7.10
[00:52] <Pelo> Zeker_, open a terminal , type aslamixer   put all the levels up
[00:52] <Zeker_> latest 8.04
[00:52] <Zeker_> ok
[00:52] <sparkybean> lol make sure its not muded first
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, getdeb.net should have the debs for it
[00:52] <Pelo> Zeker_, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:52] <lg21> alsamixer*
[00:52] <josh> i tried the manual network settings gui and the command line and neither worked
[00:52] <josh> wpa_supplicant is installed
[00:52] <lg21> josh: u've got 7.10?..
[00:52] <eZe> any ideas what could cause unregular ping 999? (maybe 50% of the time, the other 50% it works fine)
[00:52] <Zeker_> crimsun, it seems the levels are all the way up
[00:52] <josh> yes
[00:53] <DIL> josh. netgaer has cards $20 that works right out the box
[00:53] <lg21> eZe: try on different router/network?
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[00:53] <eZe> it works fine without the router
[00:53] <josh> i tried to connect to neighbors open router and nothing
[00:53] <lg21> eZe: so.. it's the router :-)
[00:53] <RikkuMobile> wow right now EVERYTHING works
[00:53] <sparkybean> eZe weak connection presuming your wireless)
[00:53] <sparkybean> oh
[00:53] <lg21> eZe: evvvvvvvil one.. D'oh!
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> RikkuMobile, good time for a full backup
[00:53] <eZe> no, it's wired
[00:54] <RikkuMobile> yeah :)
[00:54] <josh> any ideas on what I can try?
[00:54] <sparkybean> works fine without the router
[00:54] <lg21> eZe: configure it?..
[00:54] <sparkybean> ?
[00:54] <eZe> i did configure everything about it that I can think off
[00:54] <ColdBeer> jack that url is invalid
[00:54] <sonatso> josh: are you sure the neighbours router is unencrypted?
[00:54] <Pelo> josh, try researching the problem in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:54] <josh> yea i know the guy
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, I am on it now
[00:54] <eZe> and everything else beyond multiplayer games word fine, even those work 50% of the time
[00:54] <josh> i looked all over the ubuntu forums
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[00:55] <josh> and the wiki help docs
[00:55] <crunchybumble> hey, you only get 4 primary partitions or 3 primary and one extended, right?
[00:55] <sonatso> josh: did you post?
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> crunchybumble, correct
[00:55] <josh> yep but no one answered
[00:55] <crimsun> Zeker_: please follow up in #ubuntu+1
[00:55] <lg21> eZe: multiplayer games works also weak on another PC's connected to that router or only your PC is strange?
[00:55] <josh> i dont want to keep bumping the thread over and over
[00:55] <crunchybumble> and what exactly is a 'logical' partition
[00:55] <eZe> only my pc is connected, nothing is is running
[00:55] <Zeker_> crimsun: I'm already there
[00:55] <gogeta> 8-)
[00:56] <crimsun> Zeker_: but you haven't provided output from the alsa-info.sh script in that channel
[00:56] <Pelo> josh, but you did read other ppl's threads on this right ?
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> crunchybumble, logicals are created in the extedned to get past the 4 partition limit
[00:56] <sparkybean> eZe can you try the same game on another comp?
[00:56] <lg21> eZe: do you use any QoS?
[00:56] <SeaPhor> Pelo: wow, package was corrupt, found other source (backup drive) and re-installed, all is GREAT! normally a 4-8 hour download and then isp limits speed after that for a week, Thank You Sooooo much!
[00:56] <sonatso> josh: can you still connect when you try WPA?
[00:56] <sparkybean> just to find where the problem is
[00:56] <ColdBeer> ok do i just download it and run it?
[00:56] <ColdBeer> jack/
[00:56] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no problem ,  glad it all works now ,  wifi is ok to ?
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, yes
[00:56] <eZe> lg21: no, and sparkley1one, no, dont have another pc here
[00:56] <Zeker_> crimsun: how do i get that output?
[00:57] <sparkybean> ah
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ColdBeer, select the osx theme
[00:57] <lg21> eZe: that makes it harder to resolve.
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[00:57] <josh> i searched all over the forum and tried a dozen of the examples
[00:57] <josh> nothing worked
[00:57] <sparkybean> can you bypass the router eZe?
[00:57]  * Pelo is agast at Jack_Sparrow teaching someone to theme,   it's like the colour-blind leading the blind 
[00:58] <SeaPhor> Pelo: haven't even started that problem yet, thats next, but i won't bother you with that, you have helped so much already, now that I have a fresh install of 32bit
[00:58] <josh> it seems like the card is recognized and the driver is installed but no go
[00:58] <eZe> yes, and it works fine then
[00:58] <sparkybean> okay
[00:58] <icesword> Pelo, lol
[00:58] <sonatso> josh: did you use ndiswrapper to install the drivers?
[00:58] <Pelo> josh, sorry about that,  ask again periodicaly,   week nights are good, someone is bound to know how to help you
[00:58] <crimsun> Zeker_: see the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems page for the alsa-info.sh URL
[00:58] <zoidfar1> hey, I'm trying to get an adm8211 wireless card to work, this site says that Ubuntu includes the driver already: http://www.seattlewireless.net/AdmTek
[00:58] <zoidfar1> but it doesn't work
[00:59] <Pelo> josh, didyou selext the correct eth* and roaming in  admin > network ?
[00:59] <Zeker_> crimsun, ok
[00:59] <josh> i tried ndiswrapper once maybe ill give it another go
[00:59] <J-Unit> is there anything in hardy that u cant get by updating gutsy?
[00:59] <Pelo> !wifi | zoidfar1
[00:59] <ubotu> zoidfar1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:59] <SeaPhor> Pelo: but can i send you a screen-shot, so you can see the network icon and error?
[00:59]  * Pelo just remembered what he hates about new releases, all the wifi problems 
[01:00] <Pelo> SeaPhor, it will mean nothing to me
[01:00] <Pelo> SeaPhor, but you can upload it to imageshack if you want
[01:00] <zoidfar1> Pelo, I've been there already, quite a bit
[01:00] <josh> roaming is on by default, i tried to set it manually but it didnt work
[01:01]  * Pelo wonders if all the wifi ppl in the channel right now can try and help eachother , like a support group,  sort of like AA for wifi , AW I guess
[01:01] <SeaPhor> !imageshack | SeaPhor
[01:01] <ouellettesr_> anyone know of an ubuntu app that can convert avi to a dvd format so i can watch in dvd player?
[01:01] <Pelo> SeaPhor, www.imageshack.us
[01:01]  * zoidfar1 isn't running a new release, plain old gutsy (server edition)
[01:01] <SeaPhor> Pelo: no info on inageshack?
[01:01] <Pelo> ouellettesr_,  devede
[01:01] <ouellettesr_> thanks Pelo
[01:01] <Pelo> SeaPhor, no trigger for it ,no
[01:02] <lg21> ouellettesr_: http://niebieska.pileczka.net/tmp/dvd.txt
[01:02] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, it makes an iso that you can burn to a dvd afterwards , try not to go over 100 % it won'T fit
[01:02] <Dalcio> alguem em portugues br?
[01:02] <NorD> who can help with activation photoshop cs2 + wine :D
[01:03] <Pelo> !br | Dalcio
[01:03] <ubotu> Dalcio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:03] <Dalcio> ok
[01:03] <Pelo> NorD, the ppl in #wine maybe
[01:03] <ouellettesr_> Pelo your referring to devede right?
[01:03] <Dalcio> abracos...
[01:03] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, yes ,
[01:03] <ouellettesr_> lg21 im not sure what that link is for
[01:03] <NorD> who can help with activation photoshop cs2 + wine :D  \ who install ?
[01:04] <lg21> ouellettesr_: ... click it and read it
[01:04] <J-Unit> NorD, wat r u asking exactly?
[01:04] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, the guy who makes it is having trouble with the algo calculation the final size, it's very tricky because of the variaty of filees ppl can start with
[01:04] <ouellettesr_> lg21,  obviously i did, thats why i dont unserstand what its for
[01:04] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok very diff from pastebin, what do i post back here?
[01:05] <ouellettesr_> Pelo ok, I will keep that in mind
[01:05] <Pelo> SeaPhor, once you've hit host it ,  you'll get another page,  get the  give to a freind link from the bottom
[01:05] <lg21> sh** ouellettesr_ sorry it's from ripping from dvd ;x
[01:05] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thanks! http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wnet1bq0.png
[01:05] <lg21> s/from/for
[01:06] <ouellettesr_> lg oh ok, thats good to know as well :D
[01:06] <lg21> ouellettesr_: http://www.wiki.csoft.at/index.php/MEncoder_Scripts a few more info ab. it
[01:06] <ouellettesr_> thanks guys
[01:07] <Pelo> SeaPhor, you got all the ndiswrapper stuff setup ?  goto system > admin > network  try with wlan1 and such
[01:07] <andrew_> hey, I have a really simple question here involving symbolic links
[01:07] <Pelo> andrew_, ask ing the quesiotn is faster
[01:08] <andrew_> I'm trying to make a USB version of the full ubuntu install, and noticed that CP won't hit up a symbolic link. I want to create the same recursive symbolic directory link "ubuntu" as exists on the gutsy install cd, but ls -s won't let me
[01:08] <ouellettesr_> ln -s
[01:08] <fracny> i need hardy/fglrx help
[01:08] <Pelo> andrew_, ln -s
[01:08] <ouellettesr_>  not ls -s
[01:08] <andrew_> mistyped it, but I am using ln
[01:09] <andrew_> sudo ln -s ./ ./ubuntu
[01:09] <Pelo> andrew_, and I think you needed to cp -rf to copy recursively but i might have it wrong ,   man cp will let you know
[01:09] <ChaosTheory^> Does anyone know how to install Flash in Linux?
[01:09] <compu> hi chaostheory,
[01:09] <ChaosTheory^> For Opera.
[01:09] <ChaosTheory^> Hi, compu.
[01:09] <compu> yes, you go to adobe.com and they have a linux installer
[01:09] <PhilcoBill> I am having problems with fstab swapping the drives around
[01:09] <ChaosTheory^> Yes, I've done it for Firefox, but I want to do it for Opera?
[01:09] <compu> i will try to find the link, just a sec
[01:09] <SeaPhor> Pelo:, no i don't have the ndiswrapper installed yet was hoping that with 32bit would not have issues with rtl8185
[01:10] <ChaosTheory^> By default the flash player installs to Mozilla.
[01:10] <andrew_> you have to download the installer from adobe, and manually install it
[01:10] <ChaosTheory^> Okay, thanks.
[01:10] <PhilcoBill> can someone help?
[01:10] <Pelo> ChaosTheory^, open menu > system> admin > software sources,   check all the boxes on the top half of the 1st and 3rd tab, relaod , then sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-nonfree
[01:10] <compu> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[01:10] <NorD> nobody can help me with photoshop + wine =(((((((((((((
[01:10] <SeaPhor> Pelo: getting them from synaptic package manager now
[01:10] <Pelo> compu, read up what I told ChaosTheory^
[01:10] <andrew_> if you don't do it manually, ie with apt-get, it will get a wrong checksum and it won't work
[01:10] <compu> it might be better to follow pelo's advice : )
[01:10] <compu> I didn't know you could get through the package manager
[01:10] <akuma55> hello what is raid and how can it help me
[01:11] <andrew_> you can if you enable universe
[01:11] <Pelo> compu, it's in multiverse ,
[01:11] <lg21> there is faster way with flash.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras - it'll install flash, windows fonts, codecs and java.
[01:11] <andrew_> yeah, like I said, multiverse
[01:11] <ChaosTheory^> Pelo: Okay, it's installing.
[01:11] <lg21> only flash: apt-get install -y flashplugin-nonfree
[01:11] <compu> Pelo: actually, can I ask you something about a problem i am having with the installer? I can see that an app (the jed text editor) is in universe, but it does not show up
[01:11] <compu> when I run "add/remove programs"
[01:11] <Animortis> NorD, I am not familiar with it, but you might have to google it. I think it's possible, however.
[01:11] <Pelo> akuma55, raid is a way to make one hdd out of many , for more storage , it probably won't hlep you unless you are running a server
[01:11] <tbone> does anyone know of a process-monitoring security tool
[01:11] <compu> even though in the preferences pane I have universe/community software enabled.
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> akuma55, read the raid page on wikipedia
[01:11] <NorD> Animortis =(
[01:11] <compu> I was only able to install it through apt-get on a terminal.
[01:12] <Pelo> compu, what do you mean does not show up , does not show up where ?
[01:12] <lg21> ok go2sleep mode on, bye
[01:12] <compu> when I run "add/remove programs" from the system menu (on xubuntu)
[01:12] <Jaro> hi everybody
[01:12] <compu> I search for the app 'jed' and nothing shows up, while on the web I find it in the package directory for universe.
[01:13] <compu> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/editors/jed
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> HELP!
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> HELP!
[01:13] <Pelo> compu,  add/remove only list applications,  not every packackages, also there is a drop down box a the top to filter the display,
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> My drives are being swapped around
[01:13] <Animortis> Sorry.
[01:13] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: swapped around?
[01:13] <Pelo> compu, and if it is a cli app you can only start it from the terminal,  it won't show up in the menu
[01:13] <compu> so what is an 'application' from the perspective of the ubuntu package repository?
[01:13] <compu> ha, thank you!
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> Flannel yes
[01:13] <compu> I didn't know that.
[01:13] <Jaro> 4 days to UBUNTU 8.04. cool
[01:13] <compu>  so the ubuntu gui package manager only covers for gui apps?
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> the fstab file has the drives swapped around like musical chairs
[01:14] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: What do you mean?
[01:14] <compu> sorry, that should have read:  so the ubuntu gui package manager only covers  gui apps?
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> i just got my order in...30
[01:14] <Pelo> compu, application as oposed to librairies and drivers and such,  application meaning something you do work with
[01:14] <ouellettesr_> Pelo sorry to bother you again about this the first disk i try is 129%, is this accurate?
[01:14] <Pelo> compu, add/remove only covers applicastons ,  synaptic covers everthing
[01:15] <ChaosTheory^> compu, Pelo: I followed your advice and I'm just getting a white screen where the thing is supposed to be.
[01:15] <ChaosTheory^> compu, Pelo: White box.
[01:15] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, the only way to know will be when you make the ,iso , that was what the warning was about , I made one earlier at 187/% and it came out 5.7 gig,  the algo is getting better,
[01:16] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: Have you tried setting them back to what they originally were/
[01:16] <Ata1> Hi
[01:16] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, do this ,  select your video file from the right hand list, right click properties, and reduce the framerate on the left  put it at 4000 , that should recude the file size enough
[01:16] <PhilcoBill> Flannel I set up my fstab file one way and it gets mixed up
[01:16] <PhilcoBill> Yes, i changed it back
[01:17] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: Every reboot it changes?
[01:17] <PhilcoBill> But when I boot up, it goes back
[01:17] <andrew_> This makes me sad. my system won't let me create a symbolic link on my USB flash drive
[01:17] <PhilcoBill> This started today
[01:17] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:17] <PhilcoBill> the latest
[01:17] <PhilcoBill> it has been updated automatically
[01:17] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: 7.10?  Ubuntu? Kubuntu? what flavor?
[01:17] <Pelo> andrew_, usb flash fat32 ? it won't support simlinks,
[01:18] <PhilcoBill> It is like a program has intentionally messed it up
[01:18] <NorD> how i can back old alt+tab switch (icons) in Compiz ? D:
[01:18] <andrew_> oh, does gutsy's install disk use grub?
[01:18] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: What does it get re-set to?
[01:18] <Pelo> NorD, ask in #compiz
[01:18] <PhilcoBill> Is there a command line program that can tell me which drive is what?
[01:18] <NIPPO> is anyone using razer deathadder mouse on ubuntu? and have it got it working?
[01:18] <PhilcoBill> I am not sure I understand
[01:19] <Pelo> PhilcoBill,  which driver is waht ?
[01:19] <Flannel> PhilcoBill: partitions aren't labeled, you just have to figure it out (based on content/sizes, etc)
[01:19] <PhilcoBill> Yes, sda1 is which drive
[01:19] <Pelo> NIPPO, look up the model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:19] <Ata1> Hey, I recently installed Ubuntu 7.10 on both of my computers. I installed Ubuntu to a 4 GB flash drive on one of my computers (could not find an internal HD) and the other to my hard drive in a dual-boot config. w/ Vista. I have not had a single problem on the dual boot system. My problem lies here, though: I have a huge (500 GB) external (slow) HD that I would like to use for space w/ my system that has the 4GB flash drive to boot from, but my 500 GB Extern
[01:19] <Ata1> -sorry for wall of text
[01:19] <NIPPO> i have look up the forums
[01:20] <Carbonflux> is there a way to make one monitors desktop "visible on all work spaces" in a multi-monitor configuration ? right now I just set it for each window on that monitor
[01:20] <Pelo> PhilcoBill, try blkid it will give you some info
[01:20] <NIPPO> but still not working
[01:20] <J-Unit> Pelo, is the devede in the repos fixed from the problem that has no sound?
[01:20] <pjv> what's a good sysinfo program that i can apply on the desktop?
[01:20] <ouellettesr_> Pelo, that still only brings it down to 105% I guess that meains I need to go lower on the bitrate but will that sacrafice a good picture?
[01:20] <Ata1> Ah, nobody answered my question...oh well
[01:20] <Pelo> Ata1,  jus restate the problem itself  nvm the background
[01:21] <Ata1> AH, kk
[01:21] <SeaPhor> Pelo: I have been trying this with ndiswrapper and now have fresh install, I found native linux drivers for my wireless card chipset, should I use that instead? i dont understand the instructions:readme is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63788/
[01:21] <Pelo> ouellettesr_, 105 should be ok , you're not burning directly to a dvd anyway you can do it again if it is too big
[01:21] <Ata1> Well, I can't get my external harddrive to be recognized within 7.10 Ubuntu
[01:21] <Pelo> SeaPhor, yes always use the native if you can
[01:22] <ouellettesr_> Ata1, your full question was never posted
[01:22] <Pelo> Ata1, plug it in ,  it should automount
[01:22] <ouellettesr_> thanks Pelo
[01:22] <Ata1> It says that it failed to mount
[01:22] <Ata1> It didn't come with any software whne I got it with my windows system
[01:23] <Pelo> Ata1, what format is it ?
[01:23] <Ata1> Let me check really quick
[01:23] <SeaPhor> Pelo: but now i'm stuck, I dont understand the readme
[01:23] <Ata1> NTFS or something along the line of that
[01:24] <Pelo> SeaPhor, I'm having problems with it myself,   open a terminal,  cd to the folder and run the commands in the read me one by one
[01:24] <J-Unit> does any1 no wen a new version of aMSN is schedule to come out for?
[01:24] <Pelo> SeaPhor, but if thre is a driver for the card it should be in the kernel by now,   just try switching your wlan in network
[01:25] <SeaPhor> Pelo:? how?
[01:25] <icesword> !info amsn hardy
[01:25] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97+final-0ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 3426 kB, installed size 11308 kB
[01:25] <Pelo> SeaPhor, go in menu > system > admin > network , play around with the settnigs
[01:25] <SeaPhor> Pelo: no worries , thanks
[01:26]  * Pelo feels like an old fuddy duddy but he likes wires and cables, so reliable so easy 
[01:26] <carlomagno> Hi, after upgrading to 7.10 I can't load Gnome anymore (doesn't recognise SVG images). I reinstalled librsvg (and dependency libxml-2.0) but now it just hangs. Anybody seen this before?
[01:27]  * Pelo trips over his reliable cables , brakes his neck and dies 
[01:27] <Pelo> carlomagno, not me
[01:27] <icesword> mhm?
[01:28] <mrkeishii> what is a very good Linux Distributor
[01:28] <Bogaurd> I'm having troubles with mdadm, it keeps assembling my 3 drive raid 5 array with only 2 out of 3 drives, even though the logs show it's finding the other drive and identifying it...
[01:28] <xomp> hi folks! I currently have a windows XP machine for my children in their room to play games and such on but wanted to have them grow up knowing linux :P Is there a kid friendly distro of linux out there? Their ages range from 9 years old to 7.
[01:28] <mrkeishii> besides Ubuntu
[01:28] <Pelo> mrkeishii, gentoo and fedora are popular
[01:28] <icesword> xomp, edubuntu
[01:29] <mrkeishii> Pelo, but gentoo i heard breaks down easily
[01:29] <xomp> icesword, cool, is there a kidbuntu as well?
[01:29] <J-Unit> xomp, edubuntu
[01:29] <mrkeishii> how do you over come that problem though
[01:29] <gogeta> mrkeishi news to me
[01:29] <NIPPO> have anyone got there deathadder razer mouse to work on ubuntu?
[01:29] <xomp> icesword, I've heard of kidbuntu or w/e, but don't know if it actually exists
[01:29] <icesword> ohhh, hehe, no, www.edubuntu.com
[01:29] <crazytalk> the past few weeks i've been reading a few books and i've become shocked
[01:29] <xomp> icesword, thanks, I'll give it a check
[01:29] <icesword> !kidubuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kidubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <mrkeishii> because I plan on switching over.
[01:29] <J-Unit> edubuntu is "kidbuntu"
[01:29] <Pelo> mrkeishii, you asked for other distros I gave you names, I donT' realy want to debate them
[01:30] <mrkeishii> okay
[01:30] <mrkeishii> thanks
[01:30] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok new prob, in gui i dont have access to all files now, how do i make my user an admin?
[01:30] <gogeta> mrkeishi why edubuntu
[01:30] <crazytalk> for those of us that live outside of america - remember when we used to believe america was the light, america was the freedom?
[01:30] <xomp> thanks guys, I'm going to download it and install it tonight hehe
[01:30] <xomp> cheers
[01:30] <crazytalk> what happened to that?
[01:30] <mrkeishii> What else is a great Linux Distro?
[01:30] <Pelo> SeaPhor, dind't you use the same username and password ?
[01:30] <gogeta> crazytal hey we love are frdoms we used to have
[01:30] <SeaPhor> Pelo: yep
[01:30] <Pelo> mrkeishii, go and ask in ##linux
[01:30] <mrkeishii> how
[01:30] <crazytalk> wrong channel.
[01:31] <carlomagno> Pelo, thx anyway.
[01:31] <mrkeishii> how
[01:31] <Pelo> SeaPhor, pick the top most folder of the files giving you problems     open a terminal and type sudo chown username:username  /path
[01:31] <mrkeishii> how do i ask in ##linux
[01:32] <icesword> lol
[01:32] <Shpook> Hello everyone. Is it possible to just upgrade to 8.04RC? I don't want to have to download and burn another cd.
[01:32] <Shpook> mrkeishii:  type"/join ##linux"
[01:32] <mrkeishii> thanks
[01:32] <mrkeishii> oh
[01:32] <mrkeishii> yeah
[01:32] <gogeta> Shpook yep update -d
[01:32] <mrkeishii> to upgrade look at there website
[01:32] <Shpook> it will either switch to ##linux or open in another window, depending on your IRC client
[01:32] <Pelo> carlomagno, do a clean install , boot the live cd , create a new partition, move your /home to it ,  then clean install using manual partitoning and tell it where /home is
[01:33] <Shpook> gogeta:  Thanks much!
[01:33] <Pelo> Shpook, yes it is , ask in #ubuntu+1 how
[01:33] <gogeta> Shpook sudo of course
[01:33] <carlomagno> Pelo, I was hoping to avoid that...
[01:34] <Shpook> Thank you everyone. :-)
[01:34] <pen> is there a way to change file system format from reiserfs to ext2 without losing my data?
[01:34] <Pelo> carlomagno, well you can always try to boot the recovery mode, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  , there is probably an option to reinstall but I don'T know what it is
[01:35] <gogeta> sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <Pelo> pen,  don'T beleive so ,  ext2 to ext3 yes but not reiser I don'T think
[01:35] <carlomagno> Pelo, I tried that but for some reason my network interface is disabled; I can only see lo.
[01:35] <gogeta> :)
[01:35] <Pelo> gogeta, no reinstall command
[01:35] <Pelo> carlomagno, lovely
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo err there is
[01:35] <Pelo> gogeta, man apt-get
[01:36] <cmillard> Simple question: apache starts as root, its child processes run as "User" and "Group" specify in httpd.conf.  How do I get apache to start as a user other than root?
[01:36] <gogeta> pelo apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[01:36] <gogeta> i did have the syntext worng
[01:36] <cmillard> I'm assuming root is necessary for port 80?
[01:36] <Pelo> gogeta,  that's hat I meant by option
[01:36] <pen> Pelo: I'm just curious. I tried reiser, it's fine. But is it better than ext3 overall?
[01:36] <carlomagno> Stupid question: how do I set kde as my default window manager from the command line?
[01:36] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone i'm having some trouble with GRUB. i'm able to boot using the 2.6.24-12-server kernel but when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-16-server kernel I get an error 24 (Attempt to access block outside partition) and when I try to boot from the 2.6.24-15-server kernel I get an error 16 (Inconsistent file structure). e2fs says disk is clean. Any ideas what's wrong?
[01:37] <ChaosTheory^> Does anyone know of a *working* Pandora program or something, equivalent to OpenPandora for Windows (which I can't get running under Wine)?
[01:37] <gogeta> Pelo but i did knoe there was a command :P
[01:37] <Pelo> pen, ext3 is the current linux default from most distros,  stuff like reiser as far as I undertand are more specialty FS
[01:37] <ChaosTheory^> It seems excessive to open up Firefox just for Pandora.
[01:37] <Pelo> gogeta, sigh
[01:37] <Pelo> ChaosTheory^,  what is pandora ?
[01:38] <ChaosTheory^> Pelo, it's internet radio.
[01:38] <gradin> ok i got a huge problem...
[01:38] <Pelo> ChaosTheory^, there should be internet radio apps  in the repos, don'T those work %?
[01:38] <Pelo> gradin, state your issue
[01:38] <pen> Pelo: I see.
[01:39] <pen> Pelo: are you using ext3?
[01:39] <gradin> my linux box which was previously running gentoo i installed ubuntu and fdisk doesn't see a valid partition on the second drive...?.?.?
[01:39] <gogeta> Pelo i think im gonna install a text linux just to refresh my text commands getting to spoiled by a gui
[01:39] <Pelo> pen, yes , it's the default in ubuntu , it works well for me
[01:39] <icesword> pen, hiya
[01:39] <icesword> !reiserfs
[01:39] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[01:39] <danage> i have two wlan devices - wifi0 and wlan0. i suppose it's both orinoco and hostap being loaded. i cannot connect to wpa network. anybody know how do disactivate?
[01:39] <pen> icesword: hi
[01:40] <Pelo> gradin, what is this partiton suppose to be in , what format ?
[01:40] <pen> icesword: what filesystem format are you using?
[01:40] <Pelo> !wifi | danage
[01:40] <ubotu> danage: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:40] <icesword> pen, hoho, ext3
[01:40] <gradin> Pelo: it ext3
[01:40] <icesword> !xfs | pen
[01:40] <ubotu> pen: xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[01:40] <gradin> Pelo: be in?
[01:41] <Pelo> gradin, odd , do you actulay see the second drive ?
[01:41] <pen> icesword: do you want to switch to xfs?
[01:41] <gradin> fdisk sees the second drive but doesn't see the partition on the second drive...
[01:41] <icesword> no, i don't think so
[01:42] <Zeker_>  I have no sound in my system and I just checked the alsa mixer and nothing is muted, I checked my hardware and it's all installed correctly, and I just ran the alsa mixer script with this output (http://pastebin.ca/990168
[01:42] <Zeker_>  ) I still get no sound.  Can someone please help?
[01:42] <pen> icesword: ok
[01:42] <ChaosTheory^> Pelo, so I couldn't get Flash to work in Opera.
[01:42]  * Pelo is happy with ext3 , me is happy with gnome , me is happy with ubuntu, me is happy ,  me pulls on his hoody and drinks the cool-aid 
[01:42] <icesword> pen, i think that is not really important
[01:42] <ALPSINC__> hi all, how do i list all open ports?
[01:43] <Pelo> ChaosTheory^, should be easy enough,  try doing a forum search with "opera flash" I'm betting there is a simple solution
[01:43]  * ChaosTheory^ <3s nAIM and Lynx. Would use a pdf viewer in Terminal if he could. -_- 
[01:43] <pen> icesword: I'm thinking whether I should switch back from reiserfs to ext3
[01:43] <Pelo> ALPSINC__, man iptables
[01:43] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok, lots of errors, but here's the lshw -C network   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63790/
[01:44] <Pelo> SeaPhor, for the last time  , I cannot help you with this , I don'T know how
[01:44] <icesword> pen, why? i would say just stick to one, debianers said the reiserfs is not bad
[01:44] <Zeker_> I'm very sorry to bother you gentleman, can I please receive help on my sound issue?
[01:44] <pen> icesword: ok
[01:44] <SeaPhor> Pelo: ok sorry
[01:45] <crunchybumble> what exactly is a 'logical partition' - how is it different than an extended or primary partition
[01:45] <Pelo> Zeker_,  what is your sound issue ?
[01:45] <Zeker_>  ) I still get no sound.  Can someone please help?
[01:45] <Pelo> crunchybumble, try wikipedia on that one
[01:45] <gradin> Pelo: wait nvm...
[01:45] <gradin> i got it...
[01:45] <Pelo> Zeker_, open a termina,  type  lspci   do you see your sound card listed
[01:45] <ALPSINC__> Pelo, thanks
[01:46] <Zeker_> actually, I ran an alsamixer script and it sent the output to launchpad
[01:46] <bto> hello all, i'm having hard time making ubutu detect the partitions on my hard drive when i'm trying to install it on my new notebook.... anyone has come thru this before ?
[01:46] <crunchybumble> pelo - it redirected me to disk partitioning, and the subsection combined logical and primary
[01:46] <gradin> for some reason it sees /dev/sdb as the partion itself...
[01:46] <Zeker_> I can provide with the link: http://pastebin.ca/990168
[01:46] <Pelo> Zeker_, please do what I asked
[01:46] <Zeker_> ok
[01:46] <crunchybumble> but testdisk gives me options to choose between them
[01:46] <linkmaster03> somebody please help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4748647#post4748647
[01:46] <PhatKat> Does anyone know how to generate an install iso from an install?
[01:47] <cottima> hello, I am having trouble with my keyboard or something.  I cannot type in an open file dialog box and not in nautilus.
[01:47] <icesword> !remaster
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remaster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <Pelo> crunchybumble,  primary is the top kind  but you can only get 4 per hdd,   other then that you need to use 3 and logical, I guess logical are kind of fake,  extended  I beleive are  soft ,  youcan resize tehm as you please ,or they will expand if needed but I,m not sure abot that one
[01:47] <Zeker_> pelo, it does list my sound card, would you like me to paste the output on pastebin?
[01:48] <Pelo> linkmaster03,summerize your problem here we don'T open random links we donT hvwe the time
[01:48] <crunchybumble> thank you man, I appreciate it
[01:48] <Pelo> Zeker_,  no ouput thanks
[01:48] <Zeker_> pelo: ok, but it does in fact list my SB Audigy
[01:48] <Pelo> Zeker_, go in menu > system > admin > user , find you username,  click properties,  make sure you have permision to "use audio device"
[01:49] <Pelo> Zeker_,  i beleive you
[01:49] <gogeta> Zeker lol did you say sb adugy
[01:49] <Zeker_> gogeta, yes it's very old :P
[01:49] <Pelo> gogeta, please stop that
[01:49] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thank you for the time and help you have given me, if you meet someone that is a wifi-guru (lol) please send them to me or me to them, Thanks again and you've been GREAT
[01:49] <gogeta> Pelo he needs that old redhat tool sndconfig
[01:49] <bto>  hello all, i'm having hard time making ubutu detect the partitions on my hard drive when i'm trying to install it on my new notebook.... anyone has come thru this before ?
[01:49] <bto> please help !
[01:49] <Pelo> SeaPhor, read the documentation,  you'Re solution is in there , I am sure
[01:50] <Zeker_> pelo, where can I find that menu?  Would that be in the terminal or in a certain window?
[01:50] <b0x> SeaPhor #wireless if u need wifi help
[01:50] <voodoo-chile> hi
[01:50] <PhatKat> I've looked into the whole remaster thing, but I just want a standard install iso, I guess I'll just download an iso from the net. Also there was no info on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi but thanks for the link.
[01:50] <Pelo> Zeker_, the top pannel , if you are using gnome,   not sure where the user permission dialog is in kde however
[01:50] <carlomagno> Stupid question again (sorry): anybody know how I can I set kdm as my default window manager from the command line? Is there some setting in /etc/X11/?
[01:51] <voodoo-chile> i have ubuntu 7.10 and the x resarts for no reason what could couse this?
[01:51] <Pelo> carlomagno, ask in #kubuntu
[01:51] <carlomagno> Pelo, OK thx.
[01:51] <gogeta> Zeker_ defently a oldy the package you need is obsoleted
[01:51] <Zeker_> pelo, I've found system>administration>users and groups.  I believe that is what you're looking for, correct?
[01:51] <SeaPhor> b0x: no-one in there but thanks for trying
[01:52] <Pelo> Zeker_, yes,   make sure your user has premission to use the sound device
[01:52] <Zeker_> gogeta, it was such a nice card in it's day XD
[01:52] <Flannel> carlomagno: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:52] <gogeta> Zeker_ still is
[01:52] <Pelo> Zeker_, old hardware works well in linux  do not dispair
[01:52] <linkmaster03> somebody please help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4748647#post4748647
[01:52] <gogeta> Zeker_ its a isa adugy right
[01:52] <Pelo> linkmaster03,summerize your problem here we don'T open random links we donT hvwe the time
[01:53] <Zeker_> Pelo, thank you for the encouragement
[01:53] <Zeker_> gogeta, yes it's an Audigy
[01:53] <b0x> SeaPhor theres 81ppl in there, wat do u mean theres no one?
[01:53]  * Pelo has no choice to beleive that, all his hardware is old 
[01:53] <bto>  hello all, i'm having hard time making ubutu detect the partitions on my hard drive when i'm trying to install it on my new notebook.... anyone has come thru this before ?  i have one disk with several partitions as follows:
[01:53] <bto> 1.- driver utillity partition
[01:53] <bto> 2.- recovery partition
[01:53] <bto> 3.- vista partition
[01:53] <bto> Extended
[01:53] <FloodBot1> bto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <bto> 4.- xp partition
[01:53] <Pelo> b0x, SeaPhor has typing issues ocasionnaly
[01:53] <Pelo> damit, bot still vidisble
[01:54] <gogeta> Zeker_ looks like you can still apt-get install sndconfig
[01:54] <Pelo> bto, whatpartiton do you expect it to find ?
[01:54] <linkmaster03> runescape (a java applet game) in firefox is not opening, it says "Error loading applet" on a huge button. All other small applets work fine, and I have JRE installed
[01:54] <gogeta> Zeker_ that will configure your isa card
[01:54] <bto> ubuntu partition
[01:54] <Pelo> linkmaster03,  instll the -plugin pakcage for java
[01:54] <bto> somehow ubuntu only see one partition (whole disk)
[01:54] <lukasz> hey people
[01:54] <linkmaster03> Pelo, I did
[01:54] <Zeker_> gogeta, thank you for the advice
[01:54] <Pelo> bto,  doyou have ubuntu installed on your comp ?
[01:54] <lukasz> I need a grf extractor
[01:54] <gogeta> lol oops closed the windows
[01:54] <linkmaster03> All other small web java applets work fine
[01:55] <bto> not yet that's what i'm trying
[01:55] <Zeker_> pelo, I checked the user permissions and it seems my account is allowed to configure the sound devices.
[01:55] <Pelo> linkmaster03, no idea then , try asking in #firefox maybe the have a clue
[01:55] <bto> i'm on the live cd
[01:55] <linkmaster03> ok :(
[01:55] <SeaPhor> b0x: been there many times, no one ever "really" there seldome any discussion, and my question never answered, sorry bro, i've tried there
[01:55] <Zeker_> gogeta, will that program you recommend interfere with the alsamixer?
[01:55] <Pelo> Zeker_, ok ,  menu > sysetm> prefs  > sound,   play around with the alsa device see if you find one that works
[01:56] <carlomagno> Thanks Flannel!
[01:56] <Zeker_> pelo, ok I will try.
[01:56] <gogeta> Zeker_ no if its a isa like i think it will acully make it work
[01:56] <pixelmonkey> hey there; I'm trying to upgrade my Ubuntu install from 6.10 to the 8.04 release candidate, however when I pull up update-manager -d it says the latest release is 7.10, not 8.04
[01:56] <Pelo> bto, you do not have ubuntu instaled yet ? then there is no ubuntu partiton on your hard drive
[01:56] <JohninLex> Please everyone direct your question to Pelo:
[01:56]  * Pelo beats JohninLex 
[01:56] <JohninLex> lol
[01:56] <pixelmonkey> I also tried running do-release-upgrade, but I can't tell whether the upgrade it wants to carry out is the 8.04
[01:57] <gogeta> Zeker_ hears a good test sudo modprobe sb
[01:57] <Pelo> pixelmonkey, ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, what time is it?
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> lol
[01:57] <lufis> Is there some way to generate a sources.list? Source-o-matic has been discontinued apparently
[01:57] <bto> when i'm trying to install ubuntu and got into the partition step, it only shows the whole disk (doesn't show the partitions i have)
[01:57] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, time to DIEEEEEEEEE
[01:57]  * Pelo goes postal on kindofabuzz 's ass 
[01:57] <gogeta> Zeker_ that should kick your soundcard on
[01:57] <bto> i'm trying to install ubuntu in the *ubuntu partition
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> how can you kill one which has no life?
[01:57] <crunchybumble> testdisk is telling me that my NTFS boot sector and backup boot sector are both bad
[01:57] <crunchybumble> is all of my information toast?
[01:58] <IcemanV9> pixelmonkey: not a good idea. only 6.06 can upgrade to 8.04. you'll need to upgrade one release at a time 'til you reach 8.04.
[01:58] <JohninLex> hey BTO: how is your driver formatted
[01:58] <crunchybumble> or do you know if testdisk can still help me get it back
[01:58] <andrew_> speaking of which, that reminds me I still need to make my keydrive bootable
[01:58] <Pelo> bto,  step back to the desktop,    go in  the sysetm menu , in admin   gnome partiton manager,  select your ntfs partion , and resize it to make room for ubuntu to install
[01:58] <yvyn> hi
[01:58] <Pelo> crunchybumble, ask in ##windows
[01:58] <harveyd> how do I find the ip address this computer has been assigned?
[01:59] <crunchybumble> oooh good thought
[01:59] <bto> well the first partition is a driver utillity dell partition by default
[01:59]  * Pelo doens't know who he's helping anymore 
[01:59] <bto> the others are ntfs
[01:59] <pstangcjd> harveyd: ifconfig
[01:59] <JohninLex> pelo
[01:59] <JohninLex> pelo
[01:59] <harveyd> ah cool, wasnt sure whether that was the router address
[01:59] <JohninLex> me me me next next next
[01:59] <Pelo> bto,ususaly use  vista is on the largest one,  so rezise that one to make room
[01:59] <Pelo> JohninLex, what ?
[01:59] <harveyd> inet addr: is me?
[02:00] <JohninLex> I was trying to let you catch your breath
[02:00]  * Pelo looks at JohninLex  and wonders why he ever gave up being an op 
[02:00] <xoqa> supposedly there's a restore feature for konqueror's tabs after it crashes.. for kde 3, it's in kdeaddons and for kde 4, it's in extra gear... but i'm not seeing them... anyone know what to search for
[02:00] <Pelo> harveyd, yes
[02:00] <lufis> Is there some way to generate a sources.list? Source-o-matic has been discontinued apparently
[02:00] <bto> pelo, i have enough space the thing here is that i can not see it  !!
[02:00] <harveyd> cool, thanks
[02:00] <Pelo> xoqa, ask in #kubuntu
[02:00] <gogeta> Pelo lol guess that kicked his card on
[02:00] <Zeker_> gogeta, it says it can't find the package sndconfig
[02:00] <JohninLex> pelo that  opp remember it wasnt op
[02:00] <Pelo> bto,  the space is not unallocated, it is partitonned, you need t resize the partiton to make it available
[02:01] <gogeta> Zeker_ did  you try sudo modprobe sb
[02:01] <Zeker_> Pelo, I have checked all those settings and it appears to be fine.
[02:01] <JohninLex> BTO: haw much space do you have for ubuntu
[02:01] <bto> but the partition manger only show one partition the whole disk
[02:01] <Pelo> !sound | Zeker_ review this then
[02:01] <ubotu> Zeker_ review this then: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:01] <Zeker_> gogeta, yes, it said FATAL: module sb not found
[02:01] <gogeta> Zeker_  oh
[02:02] <bto> i will loose vista if i do what pelo says
[02:02] <gogeta> Zeker_ the old drivers are not there
[02:02] <bto> JohninLex, 7.5 g
[02:02] <SeaPhor> b0x: proof here-> http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nooneinwifidc3.png
[02:02] <Pelo> bto,  there is a difference between free space and unallocated space, in a partiton manager you do not see the freespace, you only see unallocated space, meaning space taht is not partitionned,
[02:02] <dos_ubuntu> hello, need help to install a usb modem on ubuntu :(
[02:03] <Pelo> bto, you will not loose your vista, you are not deleting the partiton you are rezising it , makinig it smaler ,
[02:03] <JohninLex> BTO: going into windows and back up everthing that you need. you still have your key code for windows  right
[02:03] <gogeta> dos_ubuntu :)
[02:03] <Pelo> dos_ubuntu, look up your modem model in www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:03] <bto> JohninLex, yes i do
[02:03] <Zeker_> gogeta, is there a way to retrieve these older drivers?
[02:03] <gogeta> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpModems
[02:03] <Pelo> zorry to cut and run guys but I am done for tonight , best of luck to all
[02:03] <JohninLex> <~~~~ 1gb hard running vista and ubuntu 8.04
[02:04] <Pelo> JohninLex, 1 gig ?
[02:04] <SeaPhor> Pelo: Thank you!
[02:04] <linkmaster03> rofl :D
[02:04] <JohninLex> side by side
[02:04] <JohninLex> in one screen
[02:04] <gogeta> Zeker_  sndconfig has em gonna have to dig it up on google
[02:04] <gogeta> Zeker_ looking now
[02:04] <Zeker_> gogeta and pelo, I deeply appreciate your help
[02:05] <JohninLex> pelo got a time out
[02:05] <Carbonflux> is there a way to make one monitors desktop "visible on all work spaces" in a multi-monitor configuration ? right now I just set it for each window on that monitor
[02:06] <gogeta> Zeker_ odd it says thers one
[02:06] <bto> yous gays, i'm trying to install ubuntu on this partition (/dev/sda6            7192        8148     7687071   83  Linux, i got this from the console), but when i got into the partitions step (when installing ubuntu) the only it show is this : /dev/sda
[02:06] <dos_ubuntu> hello, need help to install a usb modem on ubuntu :(
[02:06] <LAFiN> I have a quick question about Ubuntu and iPods. I transfered over all my music from my now defunct XP box using my iPod as a portable harddrive, and after I deleted the folder with my music from the iPod, Ubuntu thinks that the space used by my former music folder is still being used, even though there are no files on it. Any way to fix this?
[02:07] <Sonderblade> bto: /dev/sda is the physical disk, /dev/sda? are partitions on that disk
[02:07] <JohninLex> bto: how many drives do you have???
[02:07] <Zeker_> gogeta, this is my alsa mixer output on everything maybe this will help? : http://pastebin.ca/990168
[02:07] <bto>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:07] <bto> /dev/sda1               1          10       80293+  de  Dell Utility
[02:07] <bto> /dev/sda2              11        1316    10485760    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:07] <bto> /dev/sda3   *        1316        5853    36447566+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:07] <bto> /dev/sda4            5854       14594    70205105+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:07] <bto> /dev/sda5            5854        7191    10747453+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:07] <FloodBot1> bto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <gogeta> Zeker_ its a old isa right
[02:07] <Zeker_> gogeta, yes it's quite old
[02:08] <gogeta> Zeker_ naa we need to use the old oss isa driver
[02:08] <bazhang> LAFiN: did you empty the trash?
[02:08] <Zeker_> gogeta, the full name is just Creative Labs SB Audigy
[02:08] <LAFiN> How do I do that on the iPod?
[02:08] <Zeker_> so I assume we're talking about the right one
[02:08] <bto> ups sorry
[02:09] <JohninLex> bto go ahead and format it is only going to for mat the part you are installing ubuntu ok
[02:09] <LAFiN> My system trash says it is empty.
[02:09] <bazhang> LAFiN: where did you put the deleted files?
[02:09] <harveyd> hmm, I cant connect to localhost(apache) running on ubuntu, from xp running inside vmware on the same machine
[02:09] <gogeta> Zeker_ one way to make shure
[02:09] <LAFiN> I just hit the delete key, and they vanished.
[02:09] <gogeta> Zeker_ lsisa
[02:09] <Zeker_> ok
[02:09] <bazhang> LAFiN: hit the delete key on what/using what
[02:09] <harveyd> i can ping the ubuntu ip from xp though
[02:10] <Zeker_> gogeta, it says command not found.
[02:10] <gogeta> Zeker_:  the card should be in the list or at least a sound device
[02:10] <gogeta> Zeker_ lol man im to old i guess
[02:10] <bto> JohninLex, it won't formmat the whole disk ?
[02:10] <LAFiN> I was in the file browser, looking at the iPod contents, and deleted a folder I had used to copy all my music from my XP box.
[02:10] <Zeker_> gogeta, haha hey, there's never too much things to know
[02:10] <bazhang> LAFiN: this is in ubuntu using nautilus?
[02:10] <Zeker_> gogeta, not in this tech feild
[02:11] <LAFiN> Yea, nautilus 2.20
[02:11] <Hydra_> hello again
[02:11] <JohninLex> no just the section that you are installing ubuntu to, it is making sure that there is nothing in the way of it instalation  ok
[02:11] <JohninLex> installation"""
[02:11] <gogeta> Zeker_ weard
[02:11] <gogeta> Zeker_ says its in apt
[02:11] <bazhang> LAFiN: well the files are still around somewhere if the free space is not there
[02:11] <Zeker_> gogeta, if this helps: i used ubuntu 7.04 before and it worked just fine.
[02:12] <gogeta> Zeker_ it ran your isa
[02:12] <Hydra_> So I'm trying to enable my ATI graphics driver, and it says that the software source for the package "xorg-driver.fglrx is not enabled"
[02:12] <LAFiN> I went to the terminal and typed: "sudo rm -rf Music", which was the old folder
[02:12] <bto> but when installing the only option i have is /dev/sda.... y not the whole disk?
[02:12] <bto> "is not..
[02:13] <Zeker_> gogeta, pelo had me run lspci and it was listed there
[02:13] <bazhang> LAFiN: wow.
[02:13] <gogeta> Zeker_ a pci adugy
[02:13] <LAFiN> That should have cleared it up, shouldn't it have?
[02:13] <JohninLex> do you want to foirmat the hole disk
[02:13] <gogeta> Zeker_ could be bridged
[02:13] <JohninLex> format''''
[02:13] <bto> no
[02:13] <dos_ubuntu> hello, need help to install a usb modem on ubuntu :(
[02:14] <Zeker_> gogeta, I believe so, it's listed there along with it's built in firewire port
[02:14] <JohninLex> than you are ok that with the normal install
[02:14] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpModems dos_ubuntu look at the link from earlier
[02:14] <gogeta> Zeker_ firewire
[02:14] <gogeta> Zeker_ thats not a old adugy
[02:14] <gogeta> Zeker_ probly a ls or sfi
[02:14] <gogeta> :-(
[02:15] <Zeker_> hm
[02:15] <Hydra_> can I get any help with my graphics issue?
[02:15] <JohninLex> hydra_: I would but i know nothing about graphic issue
[02:16] <Hydra_> hmm...
[02:16] <gogeta> Zeker_  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=675986
[02:16] <Hydra_> maybe I just need to download the drivers from the ATI site
[02:16] <gogeta> not goo so far
[02:16] <bazhang> !ati | Hydra_
[02:16] <ubotu> Hydra_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:17] <Itaku> xm on ubuntu?
[02:17] <LAFiN> Ahh, bazhang, pressing delete had moved it to a .trash file. Thanks for the help
[02:17] <bazhang> Itaku: what is xm
[02:17] <Zeker_> gogeta, well I bought it quite a long time ago and it does connect to my pci slot, but it had no other name to it just soundblaster audigy
[02:17] <Itaku> xm radio
[02:17] <JohninLex> itaku:   #ubuntu-xm-fm
[02:17] <gogeta> Zeker_  LOL isa isnt pci now i look dumb
[02:18] <gogeta> :'(
[02:18] <Itaku> thats not a channel JohninLex
[02:18] <Zeker_> oh I'm sorry gogeta haha
[02:18] <JohninLex> I might of thought you get me on that one lol
[02:18] <gogeta> Zeker_  those last 2 letters matter is it a ls or xfi
[02:18] <Itaku> be back in a few minutes
[02:18] <LainIwakura> can someone teach me how to copy and paste in urxvt? selecting and middle clicking isn't always reliable for some reason and shift + ctrl + c doesn't work. Thanks.
[02:19] <Zeker_> gogeta, I don't have a box or anything, so is there any way to tell?
[02:19] <gogeta> Zeker_  should say in lspci
[02:19] <KeithWeisshar> do you use getright for downloading large iso's
[02:20] <Ashfire908> how would i find the /dev/ file for a usb device? (a usb web cam if it matters. i'm NOT looking for a webcam program... though a program to read a barcode from a picture would be nice.)
[02:20] <Zeker_> gogeta, this is all the lspci command lists under audigy
[02:20] <Zeker_> 00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[02:20] <Zeker_> 00:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy Game Port (rev 03)
[02:20] <Zeker_> 00:07.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port
[02:20] <FloodBot1> Zeker_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar: torrents usually best route
[02:20] <gogeta> Zeker_   red 3
[02:21] <Zeker_> sorry floodbot1
[02:21] <axelpaxel> does anyone here know how i can check what kind of PSU I Have? =)
[02:21] <gogeta>  Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03) looks like a z3
[02:21] <Hydra_> wait.. I think the main problem is, I don't have internet on my laptop
[02:21] <Hydra_> so I can't really update things
[02:21] <VoidedCheck> axelpaxel, I'm not sure if that's a joke...
[02:22] <Zeker_> gogeta, is that supported by alsa?
[02:22] <suchy224> O
[02:22] <suchy224> Witam
[02:22] <bto> i'm having the same trouble http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273833
[02:22] <suchy224> jest tutaj ktoś?
[02:22] <gogeta> Zeker_ yep looks like a easy fix
[02:22] <Zeker_> gogeta, oh thank god!
[02:22] <LAFiN> Does anyone know how to play iTunes purchased music in rhythmbox or Banshee?
[02:22] <gogeta> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-463921.html
[02:22] <Foxy> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to boot from a windows hard disk in linux without virtualization?
[02:23] <VoidedCheck> wow, some very interesting questions get asked here
[02:23] <bazhang> Foxy: dual boot
[02:23] <Swish> Foxy, how do you propose to do that?
[02:23] <Zeker_> gogeta, I'm reading the link right this second
[02:23] <Swish> bazhang assumed that Foxy's asking how to boot windows -inside- linux, no?
[02:23] <Swish> meaning, while linux is already running?
[02:24] <axelpaxel> VoidedCheck: Actually, it's no joke :) I'm dead serious, and used to XP.. just laugh, but feel free to help
[02:24] <VoidedCheck> axelpaxel, you'd have to look on your PSU for a sticker or logo
[02:24] <Foxy> Yes, inside of linux, I see the possibility of dual boot but I dont want to have to reset everytime I want to acces windows
[02:24] <Swish> axelpaxel, to check PSU you must open your case
[02:24] <VoidedCheck> PSU info isn't passed to the computer
[02:24] <Ashfire908> does knowing the hal device or that it's "usb 4-1" help?
[02:24] <bto> JohninLex, i'm facing the same issue mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273833
[02:24] <Swish> there is no circuitry to identify the PSU to the motherboard.
[02:24] <bazhang> Foxy: funny question but of course not possible
[02:25] <gogeta> Zeker_  thers a few fixes there
[02:25] <axelpaxel> Swish, VoidedCheck: I've thought of that, but my comp. uses like twenty minutes to boot.. but thanks for clearing that up
[02:25] <Foxy> Didnt know if there was any application for that, guess dual boot will have to do... : P
[02:25] <Swish> 20... minutes..?
[02:25] <VoidedCheck> damn
[02:25] <gogeta> Zeker_ looks like the sigtal modes can couse issues
[02:25] <Swish> how ...
[02:25] <Swish> fragmented HD? :)
[02:25] <Swish> I mean even that's pushing it.
[02:25] <VoidedCheck> must be using a 386 or smth
[02:26] <Zeker_> gogeta, I just checked the digital output switch and it looks off (its set to zero)
[02:26] <VoidedCheck> even then, damn
[02:26] <bazhang> must be running windows
[02:26] <Swish> yeah a 386 with with a 2GB swap file and 32MB RAM trying to boot XP maybe....
[02:26] <Zeker_> gogeta, I don't know if that's the same as disabling?
[02:26] <Swish> :>
[02:26] <JohninLex> BTO: does that tell you what you need to know
[02:26] <gogeta> Zeker_  sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[02:26] <JohninLex> It told me what you need to do
[02:26] <gogeta>  Zeker_ nicer gui for you
[02:26] <bto> sort of... i'm trying to know if there's any other way
[02:27] <Zeker_> gogeta, ok I will get it
[02:27] <bto> i think there's not...
[02:27] <JohninLex> ok go back to windows and do a defrag ok clean windows up alittle and try again
[02:27] <gogeta>  Zeker_ and read down thers even more fixes
[02:27] <bazhang> bto just use wubi
[02:28] <bto> JohninLex, thanks bro
[02:28] <andrew_> what bootloader does the ubuntu install cd use?
[02:28] <JohninLex> dont use wubi, it is installing 8.04 right now
[02:28] <Zeker_> gogeta, ok I'm reading
[02:28] <gogeta>  Zeker_ 0 isnt off pushing the switch = off
[02:28] <gogeta> or on
[02:28] <Ashfire908> how would i open a web cam's device file with something like vlc
[02:29] <Zeker_> gogeta, I realized that and pushed M for mute :P
[02:29] <TwinX> Ashfire908;  File, Open , Capture device?
[02:29] <bto> JohninLex, thanks i really appreciate your help
[02:29] <leprasmurf> hello all.  I'm trying to vnc into a headless system and the keyboard mapping is all jacked. s maps to b, d maps to g, f maps to j, etc...  the keyboard layout claims to be us 105 (with windows keys) on a generic keyboard.  any ideas?
[02:29] <JohninLex> ok guys I am hungry be back in a little while
[02:29] <gogeta> Ashfire908 file open capture device
[02:30] <JohninLex> no problem ok BTO:
[02:30] <patifa> The default wine stuff that gets installed, it adds a WINE listing in Applications in GNOME.  I've lost all that stuff from my Applications listing, where do I find all that stuff again?
[02:30] <Ashfire908> TwinX, gogeta: it reports premission denied when opening
[02:30] <gogeta> Ashfire908 sudo it i guess
[02:30] <Ashfire908> gogeta, nope same
[02:31] <TwinX> Ashfire908;  open a terminal, type: sudo adduser <username> camera
[02:31] <VoidedCheck> permission denied to root?  freaky
[02:33] <Ashfire908> TwinX, if that adds the user to the group camera, there is no camrea group
[02:33] <gogeta> Zeker_ i gotta go for now but search for  Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)  you will get alot more info for your card then without the rev info :)
[02:34] <TwinX> Ashfire908; the driver should add that group, (I guess)
[02:34] <Ashfire908> TwinX, yep no group
[02:34] <cucumbersushi> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06, and was wondering if theres away to put thumbnail pictures on the desktop minus the name of the image, so it sorta is like a widget picture?
[02:34] <Zeker_> gogeta, thank you so much for your help
[02:34] <VoidedCheck> hmmm, are you considered sick in the head if for fun you seek out controversial wikipedia articles and read the talk pages looking for flame wars?
[02:34] <TwinX> Ashfire908; u can try manually adding that group
[02:34] <Zeker_> gogeta, it's still not working, but I'll keep trying
[02:35] <Ashfire908> TwinX, i am
[02:35] <TwinX> Ashfire908;  sudo groupadd camera
[02:35] <Ashfire908> TwinX, already done
[02:35] <TwinX> or in gui, whatever u like :)
[02:35] <Ashfire908> TwinX, should it be a system group?
[02:35] <linkmaster03> how can I find programs ive downloaded from Synaptic when they dont show on the desktop or menus
[02:36] <TwinX> Ashfire908; no group camera is just  one of the groups
[02:36] <Itaku> back
[02:36] <Itaku> so is there a way to get xm radio on ubuntu?
[02:36] <Itaku> a program or something?
[02:36] <VoidedCheck> linkmaster03, you can see what files synaptic installed by right-clicking the entry in synaptic and selecting Properties, then you can see what file has been installed to bin and run its name in the CLI
[02:37] <VoidedCheck> that should at least give you a clue
[02:37] <linkmaster03> how can I find programs ive downloaded from Synaptic when they dont show on the desktop or menus
[02:37] <Ashfire908> TwinX, should it be a user group or a system group ("one of the groups" means nothing)
[02:37] <cucumbersushi> Is it possible to hide the name of an item but still see the item? I was thinking of a picture on my desktop but didnt want to see the name of it?
[02:38] <TwinX> Ashfire908;  thats why I gave the terminal command :)
[02:38] <sarmento> Good Nigth
[02:38] <sarmento> My name is Thiago Sarmento
[02:39] <VoidedCheck> nn sarmento
[02:39] <VoidedCheck> My name is Diego Montoya
[02:39] <sarmento> I am brazilian user ubuntu
[02:39] <VoidedCheck> you killed my father
[02:39] <VoidedCheck> prepare to die
[02:39] <TwinX> !br | sarmento
[02:39] <ubotu> sarmento: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:39] <pstangcjd> VoidedCheck: showing your age
[02:39] <sarmento> Help me ffmpeg
[02:39] <VoidedCheck> hehe
[02:39] <Stroganoff> VoidedCheck: you have no time to survive make your time
[02:40] <VoidedCheck> no chance to survive
[02:40] <Stroganoff> fu
[02:40] <VoidedCheck> lol
[02:40] <Ashfire908> TwinX, whatever.
[02:40] <TwinX> Ashfire908;  sudo groupadd camera
[02:40] <Ashfire908> TwinX, i'll make it a user group
[02:40] <Ashfire908> i know what the command it
[02:41] <VoidedCheck> so I broke a $5000 U.S. piece of equipment at work today
[02:42] <linkmaster03> grats
[02:42] <VoidedCheck> a reflector for a digital projector
[02:42] <Swish> oooh :)
[02:42] <Swish> the reflector is that pricy?
[02:42] <VoidedCheck> well, to replace the reflector we need to replace the entire lamphouse module
[02:42] <Swish> big projector, I'd guess :)
[02:42] <Swish> ah
[02:42] <VoidedCheck> and the module is 5 grand
[02:42] <VoidedCheck> yeah it's a Barco DP100
[02:42] <Swish> I know bulbs are minimum $250-300 or so, just for regular projectors
[02:42] <VoidedCheck> it can play 3D
[02:43] <foibles> are the cafelinux servers down?
[02:43] <VoidedCheck> our bulbs are $1500 minimum
[02:43] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, Just get vanity mirror and some duct tape :)
[02:43] <cucumbersushi> Im using Ubuntu 6.06, and have Firefox problems. In CLI after typing firefox, i get "glibc detected free(): invalid pointer:" and then some hexadec number. so i use seamonkey now but i like the addons of firefox. any1 know what to do? thanks!!!
[02:43] <VoidedCheck> lol
[02:43] <VoidedCheck> so it'll be interesting to see if I still have a job tomorrow
[02:43] <Swish> yeesh :)
[02:43] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, Polarized stereoscopic 3D?
[02:44] <VoidedCheck> yes
[02:44] <Ashfire908> camorama or whatever is giveing me what i want (miuns the non dark and blue only image)
[02:44] <VoidedCheck> Dolby 3D technology
[02:44] <VoidedCheck> the glasses themselves are $70 each
[02:44] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, You want to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic ( This channel is really supposed to be just for Ubuntu support )
[02:44] <VoidedCheck> ah ty for the info
[02:45] <VoidedCheck> though the show player is running linux  ;)
[02:45] <linkmaster03> rofl
[02:45] <Swish> that better be *ubuntu* linux
[02:45] <cucumbersushi> lol
[02:45] <FluxD> hi I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but ti said file was not found
[02:45] <foibles> does anyone know if cafelinux servers are down or something?
[02:46] <Linux_Player> Not heard anything
[02:46] <lakotajames> how do you stop art-get?
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: did you do with sudo?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, You sure you aren't being ripped off? I have done some home made 3D things and $70 for a pair of polarized lenses seems a bit much
[02:46] <lakotajames> *apt-get
[02:46] <foibles> can anyone access cafelinux? it seems as though the site is down, as well as their repos
[02:46] <VoidedCheck> Jordan_U, I wouldn't be surprised if we were getting ripped off, or corporate office is kinda stupid
[02:46] <FluxD> Odd-rationale, how do u install ubuntu-desktop with all dependencies?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, Though I haven't done anything professional, so I really shouldn't talk :)
[02:47] <Linux_Player> yes sir
[02:47] <Linux_Player> ;)
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <VoidedCheck> *our corporate office
[02:47] <Linux_Player> Hows my fellow linux users doing today
[02:47] <Jordan_U> FluxD, Just install ubuntu-desktop, the dependencies will be grabbed automatically
[02:47] <foibles> Linux_Player, you can reach the site?
[02:47] <VoidedCheck> not bad, thanks for asking
[02:47] <linkmaster03> very linuxy
[02:47] <FluxD> Jordan_U, I tried
[02:48] <Linux_Player> which site?
[02:48] <Stradini> After a recent upgrade to the hardy RC, I'm getting the following when trying to load lirc_dev: "FATAL: Error inserting lirc_dev (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/updates/dkms/lirc_dev.ko): Invalid module format".  I used module-assistant to build lirc-modules after the move to hardy.  Any thoughts on what's wrong?
[02:48] <TwinX> lakotajames; sudo killall -9 apt-get
[02:48] <Jordan_U> FluxD, In what way did it not work?
[02:48] <foibles> Linux_Player, nvm, i don't think you were talking to me
[02:48] <Linux_Player> oh no
[02:48] <FluxD> Jordan_U, working now thx
[02:48] <FluxD> thx Odd-rationale
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: np
[02:48] <AdrianStrays> I downloaded a theme off of gnome-look, and when I drag it into the theme manager, it says it installed properly, but it isn't an option in the manager
[02:48] <Linux_Player> Has anyone heard of wine?
[02:48] <AdrianStrays> Can someone help me figure out what went wrong?
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> !wine
[02:48] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:49] <Ashfire908> what's a good webcam program?
[02:49] <VoidedCheck> kewl
[02:49] <Linux_Player> I need help using it
[02:49] <VoidedCheck> !xchat
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Odd-rationale> !info cheese | Ashfire908
[02:49] <ubotu> ashfire908: cheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 669 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[02:49] <lakotajames> TwinX Thank you so much!
[02:49] <FluxD> Odd-rationale, whats diff between aptitude and apt-get?
[02:49] <larson9999> my wife switched to ubuntu about a year ago.  it's funny now hearing her complain about windows when she has to use it at a friends house or at work.
[02:49] <TwinX> lol np lakotajames
[02:49] <Jordan_U> TwinX, You shouldn't recommend using kill -9 with apt-get / dpkg unless absolutely necessary
[02:49] <eltux> is this channel providing 8.04 support yet?
[02:49] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: diff ways to do the same thing...
[02:49] <AdrianStrays> I downloaded a theme off of gnome-look, and when I drag it into the theme manager, it says it installed properly, but it isn't an option in the manager
[02:50] <FluxD> Odd-rationale, what does aptitude do?
[02:50] <linkmaster03> #ubuntu+1 for 8.04
[02:50] <FluxD> !aptitude
[02:50] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:50] <Jordan_U> eltux, No, 8.04 support will be provided here only when it is released
[02:50] <VoidedCheck> aptitudehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(program)
[02:50] <VoidedCheck> gah
[02:50] <VoidedCheck> good info in that article though
[02:50] <eltux> Jordan_U: Thanks, linkmaster03 shows me the way to the 8.04 channel
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[02:51] <VoidedCheck> oohhh even better article
[02:52] <Swish> hrm.  I keep reading things online that say aptitude is better than apt-get..
[02:52] <Swish> but is it really?
[02:52] <Swish> I seem to get along with apt-get just fine.
[02:52] <VoidedCheck> meh
[02:52] <Swish> (dapper 6.06LTS)
[02:52] <Odd-rationale> Swish: no not really.
[02:52] <VoidedCheck> build-essential ftw
[02:52] <Swish> hehe okay. I don't feel so alone now :D
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> Swish: see the article I posted above to see the diff. ^
[02:53] <VoidedCheck> the same article that says there's no real diff with later vers of ubuntu?
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> Swish: with apt-get autoremove command, there is not much of a diff anymore...
[02:53] <Itaku> !food
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Itaku> !botfood
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botfood - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> !botsnack
[02:53] <Itaku> i forget that command
[02:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:53] <Itaku> yeah
[02:54] <VoidedCheck> I'm going to make a package manager and call it grok  ^^;
[02:54] <champion> Hi all. I have nvidia binary drivers and I want to know how to setup dualhead so that each window is seperate (I don't want to maximize to both screens) but I can drag windows between each monitor. How is this achieved?
[02:54] <Itaku> ok
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> !botabuse | Itaku, or perhaps you were looking for this one...
[02:54] <ubotu> Itaku, or perhaps you were looking for this one...: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:55] <rcampbel3> nvidia problems after 8.04 upgrade... nvidia settings doesn't see driver. dmesg does. (Champion: option is called twinview)
[02:55] <IcemanV9> champion: xrandr .. I believe it is what you need
[02:55] <champion> rcampbel3, twinview with xinerama enabled or disabled?
[02:55] <Messedrocker> how can i start up the built-in vnc server in ubuntu from SSH?
[02:55] <linkmaster03> rcampbel3: #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <Swish> ah.  Since I don't remove things with apt-get very often, it's fine :D
[02:56] <Joeseph> Hey. Maybe I'm used to my other uber-fast computer, but  It seems to me that my computer is running not as efficiently as it should.   My CPU often reaches 100%.  It became a problem when i tried to use rosegarden and totem (and pidgin) at the same time.  My system couldn't take it. Everything would start to freeze up, and it was really annoying.  I have a 1300 MHZ proccessor and 502.7 MB ram.   Is this normal performance for these system s
[02:56] <Odd-rationale> Messedrocker: I don't think the server is pre-installed... let me doublecheck...
[02:56] <sanclio> hello
[02:56] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: find out what's hogging your CPU from top
[02:56] <Messedrocker> well it was available when i installed it, and it was up and running until i rebooted the machine
[02:57] <nnck> hi .. trying to install kubuntu on ps3 but the resolution does not fit on hdtv when I reached location step I couldnt continue enter alt ctrl f1 and now am at the command line what should I do?
[02:57] <tiocsti> joeseph: run top or something to see whats using the cpu (im assuming you have sufficient ram)
[02:57] <nnck> entered*
[02:57] <Joeseph> tiocsti, IcemanV9: my ram does seem to be fine... is top a program?
[02:58] <tiocsti> yeah, top is a program
[02:58] <Joeseph> k running it...
[02:58] <sanclio> qualcuno parla italiano?
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> !es | sanclio
[02:58] <ubotu> sanclio: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:58] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: it is already installed by default (part of linux)
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> err
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> !it | sanclio
[02:58] <ubotu> sanclio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:59] <torkel_> Has there been any known remote exploits for ubuntu server lately? (the beta) It seems like I have a 'visitor' on one of my test servers.
[02:59] <torkel_> It's running basic install, sshd and lamp
[02:59] <metanil> version GLIBC_2.4 not found... i am using Ubuntu 6.06 dapper LTS..  ... (but it works in gutsy gibbon)
[03:00] <lufis> Is there any place that has the latest vlc, i.e., a 3rd party repo?
[03:00] <linkmaster03> runescape (a java applet game) in firefox is not opening, it says "Error loading applet" on a huge button. All other small applets work fine, and I have JRE installed
[03:00] <Odd-rationale> good bye, gtg
[03:01] <Joeseph> IcemanV9, itocsti: other than the graphical programs I have up,  Xorg and gnome-screensaver (I don't have a screensaver, just a blank screen after a while), metacity and gnome-panel seem to be taking up the most
[03:01] <plt258> just upgraded to googleearth 4.3 only to find that i cant run it because my cpu doest support SSE2, does ne1 know where i can get ver 4.2???
[03:01] <Joeseph> I don't even know what Xorg is..... anyone?
[03:02] <alecwh> Would it be a good idea to upgrade to the RC of 8.04 to avoid the massive traffic on the actual release?
[03:02] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: that provides "GUI"
[03:02] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: so, it seems everything is back to normal? keep top running 'til everything is slowing down then check the top
[03:03] <Joeseph> alright
[03:03] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: everything seems normal now, I'll check when it goes crazy again...
[03:03] <sp219> Hello, I need some help. On my ubuntu server, I type in "users" and I see this: "server server server server" how would I print out a list of all the people's IP's who are connected via ssh (port 22)
[03:04] <IcemanV9> sp219: w
[03:04] <linkmaster03> runescape (a java applet game) in firefox is not opening, it says "Error loading applet" on a huge button. All other small applets work fine, and I have JRE installed
[03:04] <sp219> IcemanV9: that doesn't show the ips
[03:05] <linkmaster03> heres more info, im getting off anyways, bye guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4748647#post4748647
[03:05] <sp219> IcemanV9 I was thinking some kind of netstat for port 22
[03:05] <sp219> but can't figure it out
[03:05] <Ashfire908> what's the kde partitioner
[03:05] <tiocsti> sp219: who --ips
[03:07] <IcemanV9> sp219: that's a good way to do it (netstat). right now, i don't have any ssh connection to figure it out.
[03:07] <Daemonus> sp219: try to join java
[03:07] <sp219> Daemonus: huh?
[03:07] <sp219> tiocsti: sp219: who --ips doesn't work
[03:07] <Daemonus> ohh sorry
[03:07] <Daemonus> wrong person
[03:07] <sp219> hmm
[03:07] <sp219> tiocsti
[03:07] <sp219> nevermind
[03:07] <sp219> it is working
[03:07] <sp219> thanks!
[03:07] <FloodBot1> sp219: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <Starnestommy> Daemonus: the channel ##java ?
[03:07] <Zeker_> YAY!  I GOT MY SOUND!
[03:08] <tiocsti> sp219, but its all logins, regardless of how they connected, also look at lsof
[03:08] <plt258> does anyone know here i can find a copy of googleearthlinux ver 4.2???
[03:08] <sp219> also tiocsti, when the IP shows as (:1.0) does that mean it is on the local machine
[03:08] <Zeker_> Just one problem though, has anyone noticed if the volume in soundcards in ubuntu is much lower than if used in windows?
[03:09] <tiocsti> sp219, i think thats screen
[03:09] <metanil> hello, i got "version GLIBC_2.4 not found" error ... i am using Ubuntu 6.06 dapper LTS..  ... (but it works in gutsy gibbon)
[03:10] <IcemanV9> metanil: find out if glibc is in the repo. I have dapper installed, but right now i'm testing hardy atm (on the same machine)
[03:10] <tiocsti> sp219, you can tll the difference between remote and local users by the tty, if its tty# it'll be a console user, pts/# indicates a remote user of some sort
[03:11] <edson> somebody use cheese?
[03:11] <sp219> tiocsti
[03:11] <metanil> IcemanV9, i think there is glibc .. but the version is incorrect it seems
[03:11] <sp219> this is my output of who
[03:11] <sp219> server   tty2         2008-04-13 04:27
[03:11] <sp219> server   pts/2        2008-04-06 13:56 (:1.0)
[03:11] <FloodBot1> sp219: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <sp219> and two more
[03:11] <sp219> but that would be a flood. but anyway, what about the one without anything after it?
[03:11] <dimedo> hey there, i have problems with my video output on gutsy with an nvidia card. after playing windows games through wine it seems that video output is often totally screwed. some strange static yellow and orange stripes are the only video output. any ideas?
[03:11] <IcemanV9> tiocsti: actually, tty is console and pts is GUI console
[03:12] <tiocsti> iceman: no, pts is any pseudoterminal
[03:12] <gogeta> linkmaster03 runscape fails at games
[03:12] <Optimus55> hi all
[03:13] <mostafaberg> Helo Optimus55
[03:13] <Joeseph> hmmmm Xorg seems to shoot up to 40% hunger sometimes.... is this normal?
[03:13] <Optimus55> hey can anyone tell me if the laptop harddrive spin down issue is resolved in the latest hardy release?
[03:13] <Zeker_> has anyone noticed that the max volume in ubuntu is much lower than in windows?  Is there a way to fix this?
[03:13] <gogeta> Joeseph with compiz i would say yes
[03:13] <edson> somebody use cheese?
[03:13] <Joeseph> gogeta: I don't have compiz
[03:13] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: do you have swap partition?
[03:14] <Zeker_> gogeta, good news!  It worked!  Now all I need to do is boost the volume somehow
[03:14] <soldats> Zeker_: have you run in terminal "alsamixer" and turned PCM and Master volumes up
[03:14] <Optimus55> what's the channel for the "next" ubuntu release?
[03:14] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: Yeah, but I don't see my computer ever using it
[03:14] <Optimus55> or future
[03:14] <Zeker_> soldats, yes I have
[03:14] <soldats> Optimus55: #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <gogeta> Zeker_  ? with was it
[03:14] <gogeta> witch
[03:14] <Optimus55> soldats: thanks
[03:14] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: maybe I don't,  how can I tell
[03:14] <Zeker_> soldats, and it's still much lower than it was in ubuntu 7.04
[03:14] <SeaPhor> ok, i have roughly 36 hours left to get wireless working, all CAT5 goin out the door of In-law's home on monday. someone with ubuntu wireless plz help!
[03:15] <gogeta> Zeker_ i say max it out in the mixer then crank up the speakers :)
[03:15] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: sudo fdisk -l
[03:15] <soldats> Zeker_: are you sure everything is up? sometimes the PCSpeaker neds to be up as well. also make sure you have everything unmuted
[03:15] <bryton_03> hi! whats the default encryption type of ubuntu 7.10 server edition gutsy gibbon? its was using it in its default installtion
[03:15] <Zeker_> gogeta, there was a whole bunch of switches in both system>preferences>sounds and the alsamixer that had the digital output enabled.  I had to disable those and raise the "center" portion
[03:16] <gogeta> Zeker_ then try raising em more
[03:16] <gogeta> Zeker_ just rember the old settings
[03:16] <Zeker_> soldats, they are all the way up
[03:16] <paddy2k> hi, i'm having some trouble with 8.04 and my graphics card, where would I submit a bug report?
[03:16] <Starnestommy> paddy2k: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <paddy2k> ok just saw that now
[03:17] <paddy2k> sorry for bothering you guys
[03:17] <Zeker_> gogeta, I raised them up as far as they go and there's still a huge difference.  Besides, I use headphones a little more than the actual speakers.
[03:17] <gogeta> Zeker_ lol check the headphones vulem thwn
[03:17] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: dev/sda5 Start:   24135  End: 24321  Blocks: 1502046 Id:  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:17] <cizra> How do I get rid of this friggin' Compiz?
[03:17] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: then you do have it.
[03:17] <gogeta> then
[03:17] <cizra> I mean, permanently. metacity --replace works, but...
[03:18] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: what does the swap partition do?
[03:18] <gogeta> Zeker_ also check 3d sound any any boost system
[03:18] <Zeker_> gogeta, there is no headphone volume haha everything is all the way up.  It's funny cuz in 7.04, 50% of the volume was more than enough.  Now it's at 100% and it sounds decent
[03:18] <crdlb> cizra: system > preferences > appearance > visual effects > none
[03:18] <tof> hi
[03:18] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: swap helps RAM when it is running out of space
[03:18] <tof> everybody
[03:18] <Zeker_> gogeta, all the boosts are enabled as well
[03:18] <cizra> crdlb: Ahhh. Thank you so much!
[03:18] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> Anyone here familiar with a decent guide to setting up a RAID5 (or ZFS or something) SAN?
[03:19] <pretender> cant select case in koverartist in ubuntu.  any ideas?
[03:19] <meowludo> Hi Guys! I have a problem - whenever i change any of my appearance settings i lose my 'workspace on a cube' feature. last time it happened i upgraded to 7.10 and it fixed itself. any ideas?
[03:19] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: ah, that's what I thought... but I thought I could have been wrong, with the cpu being the main problem
[03:19] <gogeta> Zeker_ stupid low tech but check the cable
[03:19] <onats> is there a solution for itunes linux already?
[03:19] <gogeta> Zeker_ mic lose can sound like low mode
[03:19] <Zeker_> gogeta, haha yup I tried that too
[03:20] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: if you have 512 Mb RAM, then you'll expect X0rg will do something. I have a laptop with 512Mb as well. It runs pretty good.
[03:20] <Cpudan80> onats: Rhythmbox
[03:20] <tiocsti> onats: for most definitions of solution, yes, there are many media players
[03:20] <gogeta> Zeker_ at least it works
[03:20] <Cpudan80> onats: You have to break the DRM out of your music though --- that we cannot help you with
[03:20] <gogeta> Zeker_ lol have you tryed tunring up your meda player
[03:20] <onats> can i use it to sync with my iphone?
[03:20] <Zeker_> gogeta, I even switched the speaker plug with the headphone plugs and its low
[03:20] <gogeta> Zeker_ also if you where using xmms is has its own booster
[03:20] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: it runs well most of the time.... maybe I just got annoyed when it froze that one time.... but thanks for the help,  top is very useful
[03:20] <Cpudan80> !iphone | onats
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <Cpudan80> :-(
[03:21] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: try a different theme that will use less CPU
[03:21] <Cpudan80> No iphone factoid
[03:21] <Zeker_> gogeta, i raised the volume on the media players, it's still low
[03:21] <Cpudan80> !ipod | onats
[03:21] <ubotu> onats: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:21] <Zeker_> haha oh well, you're right
[03:21] <Zeker_> gogeta, I can't wait to replace this junky old system
[03:21] <gogeta> Zeker_ lol
[03:21] <alanbshepard70> What package is used to rip images off of a digital camera? Ubuntu is no longer detecting my camera automatically and I want to try manually executing the program.
[03:21] <gogeta> Zeker_ cypergaming laptop ;-)
[03:21] <meowludo> does anyone know how to activate the workspaces on a cube option when switching between desktops on ubunut 7.10?
[03:22] <Zeker_> gogeta, oh yes.  I'm thinking about custom making my desktop and as for my laptop... just get a macbook pro
[03:22] <greenplaid> meowludo: #ubuntu-effects is a good place to get answers for compiz questions
[03:23] <alanbshepard70> meowludo: Either compiz "extra" setting from system appearances and/or compiz config which is a utility in the repos
[03:23] <meowludo> thanks green & alan
[03:23] <IcemanV9> Zeker_: then use your old junky system as a server!
[03:24] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: I've been thinking about doing that (use old junky system as server).....   I may some day...   right now I don't know enough about it...
[03:24] <Zeker_> icemanv9, that sounds like an excellent idea.  I'll just replace the hard drives to something that can last being left on all day
[03:25] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I just reformatted my HDD for the 5th time now, and was wondering before I install ANY updates.. what should I do to get my ATI drivers running?
[03:25] <gogeta> Zeker_ gaming laptop repalce desktop :)
[03:25] <gogeta> thats what i wanna do
[03:25] <MilitantPotato> How do I force a root file system check on restart?
[03:25] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I just reformatted my HDD for the 5th time now, and was wondering before I install ANY updates.. what should I do to get my ATI drivers running?
[03:25] <Zeker_> gogeta, I'd like an alienware laptop without the alienware price XD
[03:26] <gogeta> Zeker_ i knoe 1
[03:26] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: Zeker_ yeah. me, too. right now, i am looking for an old system from friends and set it up as server. cannot wait to show it off to my friend once i installed ubuntu server edition.
[03:26] <Auctionedllama> Hey, I just reformatted my HDD for the 5th time now, and was wondering before I install ANY updates.. what should I do to get my ATI drivers running?
[03:26] <tiocsti> pray
[03:26] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: repo drivers or the newest from AMD's website?
[03:26] <Auctionedllama> LOL, thanks tiocisti
[03:26] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: what would you use the server for?
[03:26] <Auctionedllama> Militantpotato: repo always fail, and the AMd.. tried those last time
[03:27] <Zeker_> icemanv9, what if I set it up as a firewall?
[03:27] <Auctionedllama> Is there some guide I shoudl try?
[03:27] <Zeker_> gogeta, you know where I can find a laptop that good but cheap?
[03:27] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: are you sure the drivers support your card?
[03:27] <Zeker_> gogeta, as good as alienware?
[03:27] <Auctionedllama> Militantpotato, yes, I saw people who said they were running them
[03:27] <gogeta> :)
[03:27] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: If your card is 100% supported, this guide has worked for myself, and 5 others.  No guarantee, but it seems to work very well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348
[03:27] <gogeta> ill pm it being this is offtopic
[03:27] <Auctionedllama> militantpotato I just can't run the opensource ones.. my chipset doesn't work on them
[03:28] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: you'll need to change the file names for the latest drivers, but otherwise that's how I've done it
[03:28] <ColdBeer> i installed open arena where is it?
[03:28] <Auctionedllama> Militantpotato what crad you got I got a X1650 Pro
[03:28] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: proxy (squid), file, printer, music (save all mine in one spot), mini-mirror (update 2+ boxes at once), etc ...
[03:28] <MilitantPotato> 1950xt
[03:28] <IcemanV9> lamp, too!
[03:29] <Auctionedllama> militantpotato that doesn't support the opensource drivers righty?
[03:29] <ColdBeer> i installed open arena where is it? what is the run command, im drunk
[03:29] <Auctionedllama> Militant and how much ram is yours? mne is 512
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> How do I force a root fs check on reboot?
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> 258
[03:29] <Zeker_> has anyone ever used firewallbuilder on ubuntu?
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> 256*
[03:29] <onats> i have
[03:29] <jj3666> Zeker_: yes
[03:29] <Zeker_> onats, was it hard to set up?
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: the ones in the repos worked for me, no AIGLX in those, so they're lacking
[03:30] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: cool.... I might do that...do you know if ubuntu server has a big learning curve? I set up a windows network (with their helpful guis), but other than that I don't know too much about networking
[03:30] <Auctionedllama> militantpotato woa how does a 1950 have less than mine? Thats weird.. anyways shoudl I install all the updates first too?
[03:30] <jj3666> Zeker_: the docs are a little out of date but they good examples for the basics
[03:30] <Auctionedllama> like the updates that are wanting to be installed?
[03:30] <sjovan> Zeker_: i heard that you got a GUI named firestorme or something that is really easy to use. maby you should google it :)
[03:30] <MilitantPotato> Nah
[03:30] <MrSteve> anyone use Unetbootin?
[03:30] <sjovan> Zeker_: 100% on the fire part atleast
[03:30] <MrSteve> seen tuxcanFly?
[03:30] <jj3666> zeker_:firestarter
[03:30] <Xbehave> !wine
[03:30] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:30] <L0rd_Rahl> doesn't hardy come with some sort of "easy firewall?"
[03:30] <sjovan> jj3666: thanx :)
[03:30] <MilitantPotato> Auctionedllama: always update before installing stuff, prevents dependency issues
[03:30] <Auctionedllama> Militantpotato: ok I'll install after I get everything runnign
[03:30] <Zeker_> sjovan haha yes I've tried that but somehow it conflicts with iptables
[03:31] <Auctionedllama> militantpotato: or not xD
[03:31] <L0rd_Rahl> uncomplicated firewall is what it's called
[03:31] <IcemanV9> Joeseph: there are lots of info from forums and wiki ... not a steep learning curve (depends on your knowledge of linux or ubuntu in this matter)
[03:31] <sjovan> Zeker_: conflicts? i thought it was a gui to change iptables and stuff
[03:31] <jj3666> zeker_:not suppose to run both... they both are iptables
[03:31] <Joeseph> IcemanV9: I'll start to poke around...
[03:31] <gogeta> Zeker_ hehe get those pms
[03:31] <matt____> is there some sort of "php ssh client" that i could put on my webserver, that way i could use the "php client" to access the ssh from anywhere without needing a "ssh client"? like a web interface
[03:32] <Zeker_> gogeta, yes I did
[03:32] <gogeta> :)
[03:32] <MrSteve> anyone use Unetbootin?
[03:32] <Zeker_> sjovan, yes it turns out that it tries to run over iptables and not necessarily configure it
[03:32] <sjovan> matt____: dude... what's wrong with putty? all you need to do is go to download putty site and run it.
[03:32] <gogeta> alienware power a normal price
[03:32] <tiocsti> matt: i've seen java applet ssh, but you coudlnt do a pure web ver securely
[03:32] <gamer> hi
[03:33] <matt____> tiocsti: alright, thanks
[03:33] <Zeker_> sjovan, and I had a lot of trouble installing fwbuilder on ubuntu so I just gave up
[03:33] <sjovan> Zeker_: oh, i c. anyways... lissent to jj3666
[03:33] <matt____> sjovan: point taken, exactly what i've been doing...just wondering though, figured it'd be something to look into...
[03:33] <gamer> 8.7 seconds on a bull called fu man chu
[03:33] <sjovan> matt____: indeed. sounded like something cool to have :)
[03:33] <tiocsti> matt: http://rumkin.com/tools/ssh/ is the one i know of
[03:34] <SeaPhor> ok, i have roughly 36 hours left to get wireless working, all CAT5 goin out the door of In-law's home on monday. someone with ubuntu wireless plz help!
[03:34] <homer_> anyone know how to hold packages with apt, avoid updating them?
[03:34] <gamer> Does anybody have an extra hair scrungy
[03:34] <MilitantPotato> my wife may
[03:35] <MilitantPotato> fax number?
[03:35] <IcemanV9> !wireless | SeaPhor
[03:35] <ubotu> SeaPhor: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:35] <Anonona_DC> !raid
[03:35] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:35] <Presley> i spoke sweeter and i loved deeper
[03:35] <NateF> i cant install Ubuntu on my CPU for some reason, PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS PROABLEM!!
[03:35] <Presley> help me
[03:35] <MilitantPotato> NateF: we'll need more info
[03:35] <Presley> help me
[03:35] <sjovan> matt____: i wouldn't have used any thing from a site i don't know, but maby if you google up java ssh client. maby you could put something on your own domain
[03:35] <bighs> Hi
[03:35] <Zeker_> sjovan, indeed I understand what jj3666 is talking about.  But I believe fwbuilder works in conjunction and not OVER iptables
[03:36] <NateF> ok like what
[03:36] <SeaPhor> IcemanV9: been there, thats why i'm here
[03:36] <MilitantPotato> NateF: error messages, symptoms...?
[03:36] <NateF> o
[03:36] <bighs> apt-get does not have the latest package for perl. is there any way to add a repository to apt-get install it?
[03:36] <MilitantPotato> Or are you just confused on the steps...?
[03:36] <sjovan> Zeker_: k, so what's the problem installing it then?
[03:36] <SeaPhor> IcemanV9: READ my request
[03:36] <NateF> the status bar wont move, and the CD wont load after i clik the start or iunstall ubuntu
[03:36] <tarelerulz> I just got an ipod nano and I wanted to start putting music on it .  What can I use for that ?
[03:36] <Fezzler> When I go to certain Web sites, my Firefox fades to gray and locks up?
[03:36] <MilitantPotato> NateF: Is the CD Rom light flashing?
[03:36] <Presley> did you know if you right click the wired network icon you can see your wifi connections
[03:36] <NateF> no
[03:37] <Anonona_DC> bighs: of course. I think it's on the same menu under "software sources"?
[03:37] <sjovan> homer_: yes you can do that in synaptic. w8 i just ahve to take a look to remember it
[03:37] <Anonona_DC> not 100%sure
[03:37] <crackhead> what's a program that will allow me to surf the web in the command console?
[03:37] <NateF> militanpotato do you now how to help me
[03:37] <Presley> telnet
[03:37] <MilitantPotato> NateF: Are you trying to install or test?  If install, get the Alternate CD
[03:37] <homer_> sjovan, is there a better way with apt config?
[03:38] <keithclark> Hi all
[03:38] <NateF> i downloaded the Desktop edition 7.10
[03:38] <sjovan> crackhead: you got a lot of them, but lynx works fine for me :)
[03:38] <Presley> telnet :o.blinkenlights:nl
[03:38] <crackhead> lynx?
[03:38] <homer_> sjovan, most time i use apt-get or aptitude
[03:38] <NateF> i want to install it
[03:38] <MilitantPotato> NateF: Download the Alternate CD 7.10 i386
[03:38] <sjovan> homer_: prob, but i don't know that way :)
[03:38] <NateF> ok
[03:38] <MilitantPotato> NateF: It's faster to install with less hassle anyway :)
[03:38] <NateF>  ill try to get it and install it as fast as i can and ill get back on
[03:38] <NateF> thanks
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, are you having trouble getting the livecd to boot.. if so what have you tried
[03:38] <sjovan> homer_: but man apt-get prob. have the awnser if you don't want my solution
[03:38] <Presley> man i need a decent copy of gOS so baad
[03:38] <NateF> no
[03:38] <NateF> it boots
[03:38] <NateF> just wont load
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, you get the first menu just not the desktop and the install icon?
[03:39] <sjovan> crackhead: yes, lynx. it's the name of the prog. why are you questioning my awnser?
[03:39] <Zeker_> sjovan, whenever I tried compiling from the source it would not work or run.  I followed all the instruction on their website.  I finally got it to start up after I found an old installer package (a synaptic package) but then it kept acting buggy so I just removed it and tried using redhat to install fwbuilder.  No luck.  I just suck with linux I guess :P
[03:39] <NateF> yes
[03:39] <NateF> wait
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[03:39] <NateF> no
[03:40] <NateF> everything loads until i enter install
[03:40] <MrSteve> anyone use Unetbootin?
[03:40] <millertime_018> hey i'm having trouble with sauerbraten
[03:40] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow: would <vga=771> also work?
[03:40] <sjovan> Zeker_: so what kinde of error did you get when you tryed to ./configure ?
[03:40] <millertime_018> it runs on sabayon but not on ubuntu
[03:40] <MrSteve> how to see what is on root without login?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, When you click the install icon on the desktop or select install from the first srat or install menu
[03:40] <NateF> ok, hold on
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, depends on the issue he is having
[03:41] <sjovan> MrSteve: su <--- become root
[03:41] <MrSteve> what is su?
[03:41] <matt____> sjovan: that is what i was meaning, something on my end...
[03:41] <IcemanV9> su = superuser
[03:41] <eltux> Ever Since I updated pidgin, It won't let me connect to MSN or GTalk, it says I need a Supported SSL library. What would be a good one? Kind of lost here........
[03:41] <MrSteve> so, at login, type su?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> MrSteve, can you explain that a bit for me?
[03:42] <millertime_018> i tried running it on the terminal and this is what i got http://pastebin.ca/989849
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> eltux, how did you update pidgin
[03:42] <sjovan> matt____: mhm :) nah, i guess you have to google some :)
[03:42] <Zeker_> sjovan, uhh it was a long time ago, but I'm sure it had something to do with missing libraries or a "command not found".  it said something was missing, so I tried all the files that had sh or install on them with the ./ command and got no good results.
[03:42] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow: i'm a n00b, so i dont know, just know thats what helped me
[03:42] <matt____> sjovan: http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/2477.html this may do it
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, np
[03:42] <narothepharoh> #kubuntu
[03:42] <MrSteve> unetbootin put stuff on my new disk.. but no desktop, and I want to see what is on tha disk, but the login: Password: is not accepting what I Gave the installer
[03:42] <latitu> iam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)
[03:42] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: Downloaded it from their site and compiled the source. My Sounds don't work anymore either D:
[03:42] <latitu> ?
[03:42] <MilitantPotato> Is there any way to force a root file system check upon reboot?
[03:42] <millertime_018> this is the model of my chipset
[03:43] <millertime_018> adam@adam-laptop:~$ lspci|grep VGA
[03:43] <millertime_018> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[03:43] <MrSteve> unetbootin put stuff on my new disk.. but no desktop, and I want to see what is on tha disk, but the login: Password: is not accepting what I Gave the installer
[03:43] <millertime_018> hello? will someone HELP ME?
[03:43] <MrSteve> anyone use Unetbootin?
[03:43] <ouellettesr_> whats the command for system monitor?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> eltux, you dont need to compile yourself.. get the latest pidgin debs at getdeb.net and dbl click them
[03:43] <triggerhapp> millertime_018 : try this? http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-113972.html
[03:43] <MrSteve> I have Posted this issue on Ubuntu Forum
[03:43] <IcemanV9> ouellettesr_: top
[03:43] <sjovan> Zeker_: i'm shure it got it reason. if you want i can try to help you trough the install. make a channel and we can talk some more. haven't tryed to install that before, but i had some issues like that before :)
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpockets, su isnt going to help you there.
[03:43] <b0x> anyone know how to fix this error
[03:43] <b0x> http://rafb.net/p/Y232LP34.html
[03:43] <NateF> how do i remove quit and splash
[03:44] <NateF> which command
[03:44] <ferris_> I want to back up my Playstation2 disks, which packages can I use to back them up?
[03:44] <ouellettesr_> IcemanV9, do you know how to start the graphical one?
[03:44] <MrSteve> ok Jack_Sparrow
[03:44] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: D: great, now someone tells me. lol Looks Like I'll be running sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[03:44] <vminch> search synaptic
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, F6 at the first start or install menu.. use the delete key
[03:44] <joshritger> can someone help me get my microphone or line in to work?
[03:44] <Joeseph> anyone know of a particular tutorial or something that (baby)steps you through learning about servers, particularrily ubuntu server edition?
[03:44] <NateF> ok
[03:44] <NateF> hold on
[03:44] <tiocsti> b0x: is the dns perl module installed? if so, add its location to @INC
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> eltux, if you compiled yourself.. that wont work
[03:44] <b0x> how do i do that tiocsti
[03:44] <Zeker_> sjovan, sure thing I can definately appreciate the help!  How do I make a chan?
[03:44] <IcemanV9> ouellettesr_: oh. the gui one. ha. no i don't know
[03:44] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:44] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: So then what do i need to do?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> joshritger, /join #alsa
[03:45] <mechdave> b0x, use perl -MCPAN -e shell
[03:45] <joshritger> ok
[03:45] <MrSteve> Jack_Sparrow - I thought, I would run Unetbootin again, and I gave it a new root partition, and it ran, then hangs at Select & Install Softwares
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> eltux, try and install the new deb over your install
[03:45] <vminch> naro, try searching synaptic for the screensaver packages
[03:45] <mechdave> b0x, then install DNS
[03:45] <sjovan> Zeker_: /j #andsomechannelname
[03:45] <vminch> there are goname and kde versions i think
[03:45] <vminch> reinstall them if you have to
[03:45] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: okay, hold on brb
[03:45] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:45] <ouellettesr_> IcemanV9, ahh ok i figured it out, its gnome-system-monitor
[03:45] <b0x> kk
[03:45] <triggerhapp> millertime_08 is that what you were after?
[03:45] <dell_>  , please anyone?
[03:45] <vminch> naro, dont spam, i posted a suggestion
[03:45] <dell_> how do i install cairo dock?
[03:45] <dell_> pelo?
[03:46] <Zeker_> sjovan, ok, it's #operationfirewall
[03:46] <millertime_018> triggerhapp: that didn't work
[03:46] <IcemanV9> ouellettesr_: ah. thks.
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MrSteve, I dont mess with that, I borrow a pc and make a cd or use the iso2usb script.. even on an old  livecd
[03:46] <MrSteve> Patience *is* a Virtue
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dell_, double click the deb
[03:46] <paynito> i have just upgraded from 6.10 to 8.04 via update manager, now all my menus and cancel, ok, login, password only show boxes, some kind of font issue, i can type in the terminal and see the letters fine, i can type and read letters inside of firefox but the firefox window name is only boxes
[03:46] <tums> hi
[03:46] <triggerhapp> millertime_018 : sorry, I'll keep looking :P
[03:46] <vminch> hey tums
[03:46] <narothepharoh> vminch: they are there but when the screensaver kicks in the screen is blank
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> paynito, ask in #Ubuntu+1  the hardy channel
[03:46] <talcite__> is anyone having trouble connecting to the mediubuntu repo?
[03:47] <NateF> ok, none of those worked
[03:47] <millertime_018> thanx triggerhapp
[03:47] <dirkg3nt1y> hi gang!
[03:47]  * latitu wonders if any one here did a backup ever............
[03:47] <paynito> thank you
[03:47] <millertime_018> ;-)
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, with quiet removed did you see the error or place where it hung up
[03:47] <MilitantPotato> dell_: there's lots of guides online, try google if no-ones able to help
[03:47] <vminch> yikes, k try running an opengl test.. do you know if games (open arena) run fine?
[03:47] <NateF> it hung up still
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, with quiet removed did you see the error or place where it hung up
[03:47] <simtower> how do i set my driver to radeon 7.07
[03:47] <NateF> yes
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> and
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <ragsagar> dell_, https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[03:48] <millertime_018> can anyone else help me?
[03:48] <triggerhapp> XD Im still looking
[03:48] <ragsagar> just install that deb file by double clicking it
[03:48] <simtower> how do i use the free radeon driver in 7.07
[03:49] <NateF> does anyone know how to fix my issue anyone??
[03:49] <simtower> mine is set to vesa
[03:49] <MilitantPotato> !ati | simtower
[03:49] <dell_> i love ubuntu
[03:49] <ubotu> simtower: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> simtower, see the link to ati that uboto gave
[03:49] <dell_> is debian better than fedorra?
[03:49] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:49] <ouellettesr_> is there a way to set a shortcut for the items not listed in Keyboard shortcuts?
[03:49] <dell_> i hate yum
[03:49] <simtower> i dont want the binary driver that link tells me how to install
[03:49] <MilitantPotato> dell_: try it and see :)
[03:49] <dell_> yum sucks
[03:49] <simtower> i want the open source driver
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[03:49] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[03:49] <dell_> i di di hate it
[03:49] <b0x> i get CPAN.pm needs at least one URL where it can fetch CPAN files from. when installing
[03:49] <ragsagar> dell_ fedora is good
[03:49] <talcite__> can someone tell me if they can connect to the medibuntu repo please?
[03:49] <Monobi> dell_, indeed
[03:49] <MrSteve> dell_ -- if I could get it installed to my new disk, I might rather like it
[03:49] <dell_> militan do u like it?
[03:50] <SeaPhor> ok, i have roughly 36 hours left to get wireless working, all CAT5 goin out the door of In-law's home on monday. someone with ubuntu wireless plz help!
[03:50] <Monobi> yum is the brain damaged younger brother of apt
[03:50] <ragsagar> yeah yum sucks........but u can install apt-get ;)
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dell_, please avoid questions like that...
[03:50] <MilitantPotato> dell_: havn't tried it.  So far only Ubuntu varients and Open Suse
[03:50] <ouellettesr_> thanks JACk_
[03:50] <ragsagar> sudo yum install apt-get
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ouellettesr_, np
[03:50] <dell_> haha Monob
[03:50] <dell_> monobi thats funny
[03:50] <simtower> how do i use the free radeon driver in 7.07? (not binary not https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto)
[03:50] <dell_> jack why?
[03:50] <Lempfac1> i can't adjust my resolution higher than 640x480
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> simtower, did you read that link?
[03:50] <Lempfac1> it worked until i hit ctrl alt backspace one time
[03:51] <jgt157> can anyone tell me if ubuntu is planning on fixing wine in hardy heron?  apps that worked in gutsy no longer work in hardy heron
[03:51] <simtower> yes, it tells me how to install fglrx
[03:51] <dell_> jack
[03:51] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: one second.
[03:51] <sjxlinux> 大家好阿
[03:51] <Lempfac1> thanks militant
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dell_, this is not a discussion channel for which is better, it is a support room
[03:51] <ragsagar> ++1 to jack
[03:51] <simtower> i would like radeon, not fglrx
[03:51] <IcemanV9> simtower: replace 'vesa' with 'radeon' in your xorg.conf
[03:51] <nickrud> jgt157 ubuntu simply packages up wine, it has a newer version. Wine often breaks
[03:51] <MrSteve> I can see that
[03:51] <nickrud> jgt157 it being hardy
[03:51] <simtower> thank you IcemanV9
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jgt157, please ask in the hardy room
[03:52] <MrSteve> sjxlinux - cool
[03:52] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[03:52] <jgt157> there's a hardy room?
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[03:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:52] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow arhg, I'm chomping at the bit ;)
[03:52] <triggerhapp> millertime_018 sorry but I cant seem to find a thing :S get build-essential package, the source and make from source?
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey nickrud goodevening
[03:52] <simtower> is there a way i can reautoconfigure xorg so the failsafe devices go away all at once?
[03:52] <Lempfac1> i uninstalled xserver-xorg
[03:53] <Lempfac1> should i put it back on?
[03:53] <Presley> Ohio
[03:53] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: yes :)
[03:53] <nickrud> Lempfac1 generally a good idea ;)
[03:53] <Presley> how do i change my nick to lamer?
[03:53] <Lempfac1> okay, it worked before i had that isntalled
[03:53] <nickrud> Presley   /nick lamer
[03:53] <MilitantPotato> Presley: /nick lamer
[03:53] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[03:53] <Lempfac1> sorry im a complete ubuntu noobie
[03:53] <Presley> that aint working its my alias that is bugging me
[03:53] <nickrud> narothepharoh try #kubuntu, they pay more attention to kde
[03:54] <triggerhapp> naro: could answer that for gnome :P
[03:54] <narothepharoh> nickrud there is nobody answering there either
[03:54] <ragsagar> narothepharoh, pls explain...did u get any error message??
[03:54] <latitu> iam using partimage (as backhand of g4l) it says cant read image from block 0. iam trying to make an image... and i cant use some other app. they are too difficult and i want to make an image of the full partition (excluding freespace). how can i check the partition? (i have already done fsck)?
[03:54] <nickrud> Lempfac1 don't worry about breaking your system ;) Keep your home backed up, and break to learn, it's a classic method
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> simtower, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[03:54] <crackhead> sjovan: what's another one that will let me use the mouse, instead of just arrows???
[03:55] <MilitantPotato> Jack_Sparrow: he uninstalled xserver-xorg
[03:55] <Presley> now what?
[03:55] <narothepharoh> ragsagar: it choses and previews fine just but when screensaver kicks in the screen goes blank with nothing?
[03:55] <sjxlinux> 哪里有支持PHP的空间申请
[03:55] <nickrud> !cn | sjxlinux
[03:55] <ubotu> sjxlinux: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[03:55] <ragsagar> latitu,use dd
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> MilitantPotato, Simmy him
[03:55] <sjovan> crackhead: hu huh? what where we talking about again? i'm helping alot of people...
[03:55] <crackhead> sjovan: you there? what's another command console browser that will let me use a mouse instead of just tabs.. instead of lynx
[03:55] <MilitantPotato> I don't follow..?
[03:55] <Presley> i used dd and dvd creator couldnt boot gOS
[03:56] <homer_> could anyone help with apt pinning?
[03:56] <Lempfac1> militant it said dpkg-query --status needs atleat one package name argument
[03:56] <simtower> thanks Jack_Sparrow, i think that aws the problem
[03:56] <ragsagar> narothepharoh, u r suing kubuntu or ubuntu??
[03:56] <latitu> ragsagar will dd make a partition image on a file with data and everything else a partion has (except free space) ?
[03:56] <simtower> bad xorg configuration
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:56] <narothepharoh> ragsagar it is kubuntu
[03:56] <MilitantPotato> Ah, sorry I misread
[03:56] <cirkit_> I've changed the distributor-logo.png file that was in /usr/share/icons/HighContrastLargePrintInverse/48x48/places/distributor-logo.png
[03:57] <cirkit_> but it still shows the default ubuntu icon in the Applications menu bar ... any ideas?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning
[03:57] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg    ?
[03:57] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[03:57] <sjovan> crackhead: i'm sorry. i don't know of any term.thing that you can use your mouse on. anyways... what can you use that for? you can't use the mouse over ssh anyways, and i guess that's the reason you want a browser right?
[03:57] <Presley> does chris pirillo have some kind of wimpy office now?
[03:57] <ouellettesr_> Jack_Sparrow, do you have any idea what to do if my keyboard isnt listed on their website?
[03:57] <nickrud> cirkit try the 22x22 and the others as well
[03:57] <Talcite> can anyone verify for me whether the Medibuntu repo is up or down?
[03:57] <Talcite> I keep getting a 404 when updating to it
[03:57] <crackhead> sjovan: i'm trying to see my internet/web connection on a remote connection through ssh, because i need to get into my router page to change settings, so that i can get my remote desktop xvncviewer to work.. haha
[03:57] <Dr_willis> cirkit_,  you are using the same size panel? theres an icon for each panel size.
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> cirkit_, IT was designed specifically to make it hard to remove the ubutnu logo from that menu
[03:57] <Lempfac1> says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: - is not installed
[03:57] <simtower> Jack_Sparrow: thank you, visual effects are back
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> simtower, glad to help
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ouellettesr_, generic keyuboard doesnt work.. the special function/media keys aside
[03:58] <MilitantPotato> uh oh :)
[03:58] <crackhead> sjovan: solution? :)
[03:58] <Stroganoff> Talcite seems to be half-down: http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[03:58] <ragsagar> latitu,yeah i think u have to give dd if=/media/sd** of=filename.iso         becareful while using it
[03:58] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: what happens when you use synaptic to try and install xserver-xorg   ?
[03:59] <ouellettesr_> Jack_Sparrow, oh i didnt see generic as an option
[03:59] <Lempfac1> its installed, i was mistaken i never uninstalled it
[03:59] <Lempfac1> it was a different package i removed
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, they use a link to hide the true location of the logo
[03:59] <cdm10> Is there any tool available to convert to/from Windows linebreaks?
[03:59] <nickrud> Lempfac1 install debconf
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ouellettesr_, use generic and then
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[03:59] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[03:59] <Stroganoff> cdm10: sudo apt-get install tofrodos
[03:59] <Dr_willis> using a link is hard? :)
[03:59] <cdm10> Stroganoff: thanks
[03:59] <Stroganoff> cdm10: then use: dos2unix file.txt
[03:59] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow wow, I edited that before ...
[03:59] <latitu> ragsagar why carefl?
[04:00] <tiocsti> cdm: sed and vi can do conversions too
[04:00] <Dr_willis> cdm10,  thers dozens of converters and scripts out to do that task.  :)
[04:00] <Lempfac1> already on there nickrud
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis, No, not using a link is hard.. just how they used it to hide the real logo
[04:00] <ragsagar> carefukl while giving if and of
[04:00] <sjovan> crackhead: yes i have :) that would never work. cause no terminal based browser suports java and all that crap. you need to telnet your router. log in with ssh on your remote computer, then ---> telnet ip.for.router
[04:00] <ragsagar> otherwise it will screw ur partition :D
[04:00] <crackhead> sjovan: explain?? :)
[04:00] <nickrud> Lempfac1 an interesting way to break your system ;)
[04:00] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1:  see if dpkg-reconfigure  is installed
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  uhh..ok.. :) if you say so..
[04:00] <homer_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks but it wont work as i expect, i still could select such package for upgrade in aptitude
[04:00] <Lempfac1> i installed a compwiz
[04:00] <Joeseph> what is the program gtk-gnash?
[04:00] <Lempfac1> that do anything?
[04:00] <cdm10> tiocsti: I was thinking of just writing a quick script, but it seems like a waste if I can just install it.
[04:01] <Lempfac1> compiz*
[04:01] <Lempfac1> compizconfig-settings-manager to be more specific
[04:01] <Joeseph> or how can I tell what gtk-gnash is?
[04:01] <mad_max02> how can I update open office to 2.4 ??
[04:01] <nickrud> Lempfac1 no, that wouldn't remove debconf
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis, please supply a tutorial or a link to a script that will do it
[04:01] <sjovan> crackhead: i just did.... connect to your remote computer with ssh. after you have loged in to the computer (username and pasword). use the command telnet <and the ip for your router (in other words the localgateway ip)>
[04:02] <mad_max02> and how can I update gnome if its not latest version
[04:02] <Lempfac1> anyway to see a history of installed/removed packages?
[04:02] <nickrud> Lempfac1 /var/log/dpkg
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mad_max02, safer to stick with the tested version in the repos
[04:02] <crackhead> sjovan: it said connection refused??
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Lempfac1, you can get a list of installed packages.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  im too busy doing other wiki pages.. go for it.
[04:02] <nickrud> mad_max02 each version of ubuntu comes with the new gnome, one reason it's a 6 month cycle
[04:03] <Lempfac1> i found it
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis, you are the one that said it was easy.. I will wait
[04:03] <Lempfac1> its a brand new install
[04:03] <sjovan> crackhead: you are useing putty right?
[04:03] <crackhead> sjovan: im in my remote desktop. it has the router. i do telnet 192..1.. and then it says connection refused..
[04:03] <crackhead> im using an xterm console window
[04:03] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: Didn't work, and I even tried doing a sudo apt-get remove pidgin and It's still messed up
[04:03]  * nickrud changed that logo with a theme, but it was a couple years ago ...
[04:03] <mad_max02> nickrud, so you think I should wait for hardy to be released and then do a fresh install ??
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> eltux, THe downside of compiling yourself..
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  you are the one saying following a link is hard.. but whatever.. i dont use gnome. Have fun. Working on a jwm wiki tutorial at the moment.
[04:03] <Lempfac1> all i did was install the driver from restricted packages and it worked fine
[04:03] <nickrud> mad_max02 or do an upgrade with upgrade-manager
[04:03] <crackhead> sjovan: im using a local ubuntu machine. i have a remote kubuntu machine. im ssh'd into the remote.
[04:04] <mad_max02> nickrud, I dont know if that will work out of the box
[04:04] <eltux> Jack_Sparrow: ah well, I'll be redoing my computer soon anyway so no real worries, 8.04 is upon us
[04:04] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: in synaptic go to file>History
[04:04] <Lempfac1> then i installed xserver-xgl and a compiz pack then hit ctrl alt backspace
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Dr_willis
[04:04] <Lempfac1> since then it ruined my resolution
[04:04] <nickrud> mad_max02 it's supposed to, part of the design philosophy. Very important that it work
[04:04] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:04] <Lempfac1> i removed the two installed packs and restarted to no avail
[04:04] <sjovan> crackhead: are you shure that you got the ip right? ifconfig and paste it on www.pastebin.com
[04:04] <Dr_willis> !ot | Jack_Sparrow  :)
[04:04] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow  :): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:04] <Lempfac1> yea said that dpkg wasn't installed
[04:04] <crackhead> yeah i know i got the ip right
[04:04] <Lempfac1> and i don't see it in packages
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis, pm please
[04:04] <nickrud> now now Jack_Sparrow Dr_willis don't be setting bad examples :)
[04:05] <ragsagar> narothepharoh, ur kde version??
[04:05] <sjovan> crackhead: that's wierd... maby you have to spesify the port. it's prob port 22
[04:05] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  heh :) ok. off to work on my wiki.
[04:05] <sjovan> i think
[04:05] <pretender> cant select case in koverartist in ubuntu.  any ideas?
[04:05] <nickrud> Dr_willis see you around
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> enough is enough if he wont listen or read
[04:05] <latitu> if i dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz      , it will copy data including freespace too or just files ?
[04:05] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: see if dpkg is installed
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> goood        bye
[04:06] <ragsagar> latitu, i think dd wont include free space,did u try the command i said!
[04:06] <tiocsti> lat: dd doesnt know anything about filesystems, its just a raw copy, so it'd be everything
[04:07] <Lempfac1> its in
[04:07] <latitu> ragsagar i want to backup /
[04:07] <Lempfac1> just the main dpkg pack or all of em?
[04:07] <mechdave> Does anyone know how to get the codes for the email and bluetooth buttons on the Acer Travelmate 250?
[04:07] <latitu> ragsagar i want to backup /      not other partitions
[04:07] <MilitantPotato> Lempfac1: just the main afaik
[04:07] <sjovan> crackhead: nope, you don't have to spesify the port for the router. you prob type in the wrong adress
[04:07] <tiocsti> most of the times, dd for backups isnt what you want
[04:07] <Lempfac1> how is it not installed then if it clearly is :P grrr
[04:07] <pretender> anyone using koverartist and running ubuntu
[04:08] <tiocsti> tar tends to be a better choice for backups (or dump)
[04:08] <ragsagar> ooh!
[04:08] <latitu> ragsagar <renebrask> dd copies every block on the harddisk. It knows nothing about the fs on it. So you get an exact copy of the partition including the data in free space
[04:08] <sjovan> btw people... how can you get the information of the localgateway in linux? you know like... ipconfig in windows
[04:08] <nickrud> mechdave   start xev , put the mouse in the little window and press the key . If you get no output, it'll have to be done on the console
[04:08] <crackhead> sjovan: is there any way i can forward just one program thread that is running on the remote to local display somehow??
[04:08] <Schypher_> hello
[04:08] <crackhead> sjovan: and skip the whole desktop..
[04:09] <mechdave> nickrud, cheers will try
[04:09] <ragsagar> there is a python code for backing up as tar.gz
[04:09] <Schypher_> Can anyone show me how to get ndiswrapper drivers to work with WPA PSK?
[04:09] <sjovan> crackhead: you have to open up some ports on your router to do that sorry (or i don't know a way)
[04:09] <crackhead> sjovan: i have some ports open
[04:09] <IdleOne> pretender: what is your issue with koverartist? and #kubuntu might be of more help
[04:09] <crackhead> 22/21.. and 53something.. i can find out..
[04:09] <ragsagar> with some modification we can make it withdifferent xtensions!
[04:10] <crackhead> i mean, im logged in through ssh on one of those ports.. via the router..
[04:10] <crackhead> maybe 20?
[04:10] <crackhead> sjovan: you know?
[04:10] <Lempfac1> i want my resolution back! i was reading some forum posts because my text was fuzzy and tried a few things but nothing i'd tihnk would mess this up
[04:10] <Monobi> crackhead, apt-get install openssh-server
[04:10] <NateF> ok good
[04:10] <Schypher_> hello :D
[04:10] <Monobi> crackhead, default port is 22
[04:10] <sjovan> crackhead: yeah, then you can use putty to forword x. you just have to do some tunneling. google putty vlc tunnel or something like that
[04:10] <Monobi> forward your router to that machine with 22 open
[04:10] <mechdave> nickrud, Ok no go, any tutorials that you know of that I can follow for hot key enabling?
[04:10] <crackhead> Monobi: what you mean
[04:10] <leprasmurf> what's the command to scan an image from command line from a local scanner?
[04:10] <Lempfac1> im using fglrx if that means anything to you militant
[04:10] <Monobi> crackhead, rtfm
[04:11] <sjovan> crackhead: but why can't you telnet? i'm shure you got the adress wrong. all routers that i know of have telnet suport
[04:11] <IdleOne> Monobi: rtfm is not an acceptable answer in here. if you wish to help then help but dont be rude about it
[04:11] <VoidedCheck> read the friendly manual?
[04:11] <Monobi> :|
[04:11] <sjovan> :)
[04:11] <crackhead> Monobi: right now i am ssh'd into remote machine. probably through port 20. or 22. whatever default. i can access command console on remote. i can run x11vnc which sets up stuff on the remote. however when i use xvncviewer on the local, i can't get it to connect to the remote.. probably because a differnet port needs to bre open.. and i forgot to open it..
[04:11] <Monobi> VoidedCheck, ding
[04:11] <sjovan> capiCrimm: port 21 in fact
[04:11] <Monobi> crackhead, in that case, I have no clue
[04:12] <Monobi> I thought you needed help setting it up
[04:12] <crackhead> sjovan: see my situation there..
[04:12] <mechdave> Anyone know of any tutorials that I can follow for hot key enabling?
[04:12] <sjovan> crackhead: port 21 in fact, and as i have said many times. telnet the router and open the port.
[04:13] <sjovan> crackhead: if you can't get to the router with telnet, then you got the wrong adress
[04:13] <mechdave> on travelmate 250
[04:13] <crackhead> sjovan: yeah i tried. maybe the router closd off for a few minutes or something automaticall? i dont kno why it would do that, but maybe it did.. if i can't get into router, then you think there is a way to just forward one program thread, through putty? why would i use putty on a ubuntu machine? isnt that only windows?
[04:13] <sjovan> crackhead: that i'm pritty shure of
[04:13] <tiocsti> theres a unix port of putty, dont know what state its in though
[04:13] <sjovan> crackhead: nwm minde putty...
[04:14] <ragsagar> latitu zip -qr '%s' %s" % (target, ' '.join(source))
[04:14] <sjovan> crackhead: i was up in the same situation as you some time ago. then i was on a windows box. that's the reason i talked about putty
[04:14] <latitu> ragsagar whats that
[04:14] <sjovan> crackhead: but any ways... if you got some other ports open, why don't you just change the port on the vnc server then?
[04:14] <sjovan> problem solved...
[04:15] <ragsagar> that is the command to put the files in a zip archive
[04:15] <ragsagar> where target is filename.zip
[04:15] <crdlb> ragsagar: is there a reason you're mixing shell and python? :P
[04:16] <ragsagar> crdlb...be patient
[04:16] <ragsagar> i was talking abt python with him
[04:17] <ragsagar> we can tar also instead of that
[04:17] <latitu> how to completely check a partition?
[04:17] <latitu> how to completely check a partition? ext3
[04:18] <sjovan> crackhead: if you got an idee what ports that are open on your router and not in use.... run lynx, go to the site www.canyouseeme.org and check if the port is open. if it is, then change the port to that port on vlc server
[04:18] <Lynet> latitu: fsck.ext3?
[04:18] <latitu> Lynet it will check bad sectors too?
[04:19] <tiocsti> crackhead: cant you just use ssh port forwarding to tunnel the vnc port through port 22 if ssh is open
[04:19] <Lynet> latitu: dd if=/dev/partition of=/dev/null
[04:22] <xinel> is there a ubuntu server chat room?
[04:22] <sjovan> !ubuntu server
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <sjovan> !ubuntuserver
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <sjovan> xinel: not that i know of :)
[04:23] <MrSteve> roflol.. unetbootin.  If You use this NetBoot software on a Windows machine, or Linux.. and You get a system Hang when it is downloading packages.. it is ..Downloading 650mb+ worth of files
[04:23] <xinel> bugger
[04:23] <xinel> well does anybody know that if i set up a mail server using postfix do I need to set up a dns caching server as well?
[04:23] <sjovan> xinel: there prob is though. have you looked on the channel list on the ubuntu homepage?
[04:23] <xinel> nope could i have a link to it?
[04:23] <SeaPhor> ok, so no help with wireless again tonight, 1 day left and then i'll be gone for good, i hope tomorrow is more fruitful, g'night all
[04:24] <MrSteve> roar.. let me go do it agin, and see what it downloads
[04:24] <MrSteve> hahaha
[04:24] <Sajuukkhar> hey guys
[04:24] <sjovan> xinel: don't have a link. but www.ubuntu.org has the awnser
[04:24] <xinel> cheers
[04:24] <jjb2> how can I determine why a driver isn't loading when I plug in a USB gamepad?  I know my pad is supported.
[04:24] <latitu> Lynet what wil that do. nul?
[04:24] <Sajuukkhar> going through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4253232&postcount=133, i just mucked up my xorg file due to step 10 and 11
[04:24] <latitu> i want to check each and everything possible on the partition. how can i do it. i run my os in that. ubuntu
[04:25] <ragsagar> fsck -t ext3 /dev/hda2
[04:25] <latitu> m0
[04:25] <Sajuukkhar> i found the problem but now i got the stuff in 11 at the end of the file and dont know where to put it
[04:25] <Lynet> latitu: That will read the entire disk. If the drive discovers that it has problems reading a block it will either remap it (if it is recoverable) or you get an error (if it is unrecoverable).
[04:25] <pikafumanchu> hello
[04:26] <latitu> ragsagar I want to check everything. files badsectors. etc
[04:26] <Seventeen> So I can't play .wma's on Ubuntu
[04:26] <Seventeen> Or MP3's
[04:26] <Seventeen> in fact, nothing will play :(
[04:26] <Seventeen> something about codecs
[04:27] <Sajuukkhar> same here seventeen
[04:28] <xinel> found the room ubuntu-server
[04:28] <xinel> nobodies home but :P
[04:28] <Joeseph> how do I view hidden files again in nautilus?
[04:29] <Pici> Joeseph: ctrl-h
[04:29] <xinel> Joeseph: view, show hidden files
[04:29] <Joeseph> thank you
[04:29] <Seventeen> hmm, I think I found the answer on the wiki
[04:29] <sjovan> xinel: hepp hepp :)
[04:30] <c0Ld> is the .trash folder located somewhere different on hardy? I can't find it and nautilus is failing to delete a file in it :/
[04:30] <sjovan> c0Ld: ~/.trash
[04:30] <ragsagar> latitu, Try fschk command
[04:30] <c0Ld> sjovan: that's where i looked first ;/
[04:30] <Dr_willis> c0Ld,  i was thinking it was in  .local/share/Trash/
[04:30] <latitu> ragsagar complete command to check evertying
[04:31] <LainIwakura> will 8.04 change anymore? i'm still waiting for 4 days.. but i also can't wait
[04:31] <ragsagar> #/sbin/e2fsck  for checking errors
[04:31] <ragsagar> but u shoiuld be in init 1    for tat command
[04:31] <crackhead> sjovan: is there a better, more advanced terminal based internet browser than lynx? lynx almost did the trick, but not quite..
[04:32] <Dr_willis>  fsck.ext3 -c , checks a ext3 filesystem, and checks for badblocks as well it seems.
[04:32] <sjovan> crackhead: what trick?
[04:33] <crackhead> sjovan: i got into the router admin page with lynx. and i navigated to the right section, and i made the right change. it's just when i clicked apply, it loads a url that says merely continue.. and it didnt seem to work, that one page.. but that' snot javascript.. so i dont know why it wouldnt .. i just want to try another advanced terminal based internet browser, if you know of one
[04:33] <Lynet> crackhead: you might try links
[04:33] <JoSe> hi i'm new user of ubuntu
[04:33] <crackhead> Lynet: already did.. which is another one?
[04:35] <Lynet> crackhead: Lynx, links and w3m are the 3 I know of.
[04:35] <sjovan> crackhead: well... as i told you before. all the terminal browser got issues with java as far as i know. google, but i doubt that you will finde one that works. telnet is still the way to go, or as another person talked about. tunneling the port of vnc server trough ssh. don't know how to do that btw... google ssh tunneling. or as i said... use one of the open ports that you talked about. why do you need vnc anyways?
[04:36] <devin_> why do you all choose gnome over kde ?
[04:36] <LainIwakura> should i wait 4 more days to install 8.04?
[04:36] <LainIwakura> gnome is more light-weight
[04:36] <Dr_willis> devin_,  we 'all' dont. :)
[04:36] <Iced_Eagle> LainIwakura: I think you should
[04:36] <LainIwakura> Iced_Eagle: so changes are still being made?
[04:36] <Iced_Eagle> No hurry, at least on my end :)
[04:36] <sjovan> devin_: because the suport on kubuntu isn't that good and that kde looks like crap in general
[04:36] <LainIwakura> alright
[04:36] <ragsagar> devin_, iam a kde user! :P
[04:37] <Iced_Eagle> not exactly sure, but if it's labeled as an RC, still treat it as one :)
[04:37] <crackhead> sjovan: check this out.. http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/   in rx11vnc.pl.. apparently he wrote something to try that? do you understand how to do it??
[04:37] <devin_> Dr_willis which do you prefer?
[04:37] <ragsagar> sjovan, kde looks like crap :o
[04:37] <Dr_willis> devin_,  depends on what machine i am on, and what tasks i am doing. I have jwm set up on my laptop  how i like it.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> devin_,  install the other desktops, window managers, and try them out. Use what you like.
[04:38] <Iced_Eagle> can anyone correct me, but is it correct in saying that if you start with an Ubuntu beta version and just keep updating it, by the time it releases it becomes 100% identical to the final release?
[04:38] <Iced_Eagle> just want to get my facts straight :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Iced_Eagle,  thats how its supposed to work
[04:38] <Iced_Eagle> coolio
[04:38] <Iced_Eagle> when Hardy is released I'm going to make my laptop dual-boot
[04:38] <devin_> well i went from gnome to kde but i'm thinking i made a bad move idk which i like more.
[04:38] <crackhead> sjovan: you see?
[04:38] <Dr_willis> devin_,  use one for a week, then switch for a week. then try some others for a week.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> devin_,  its not like its hard to change from one to the other.
[04:39] <nxusr> devin_ what could you posibly like about gnome?
[04:39] <LainIwakura> in wget, there's a nice status bar. is there a utility that will show a status bar when i'm copying large files? thanks.
[04:39] <tiocsti> lain, i think dialog can display such bars
[04:39] <devin_> nxusr i like its ugly funk
[04:40] <sjovan> crackhead: sorry, i did try to tunnel when i had the same problems as you (i needed to open a port for my music server), with ssh command and putty, but didn't get it to work. my solution was telnet
[04:40] <LainIwakura> tiocsti: thanks
[04:40] <mark42> I just upgraded to 8.04 and my /home drive won't mount.  Boot says "No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdb1"  I think maybe my /etc/fstab is wrong.  Any ideas?
[04:40] <Seventeen> hey, how do open that command line or whatever
[04:40] <Seventeen> to put in codes to fix shit
[04:40] <Seventeen> stuff*
[04:40] <sjovan> crackhead: any ways... vnc sucks teh balls. use nx client/server if you really need it...
[04:41] <crackhead> sjovan: what you mean
[04:41] <sjovan> crackhead: just what i said... vnc sucks teh balls. slow and generaly crap. nx is much bether, but i don't se why you need it...
[04:41] <devin_> Dr_willis how do i switch from different desktops without caring ones baggage
[04:42] <MrGnu> ##linux
[04:42] <MrGnu> ##windows
[04:42] <MrGnu> #bash
[04:42] <Dr_willis> devin_,  the gdm/kdm/whatever login screen has a menu to let you pick what windowmanager/desktop to use.
[04:42] <sjovan> Seventeen: applications ---> accessories ---> terminal
[04:42] <biabia> when hardy is released..can the upgrade be selected in Synaptic Package Manager or does it have to be burned
[04:43] <Dr_willis> devin_,  install kubuntu-desktop, and ubuntu-desktop, then on the login screen pick kde or gnome to boot to what one you want to use that time
[04:43] <sjovan> biabia: when it's ready you can just do: system ---> admin ---> update manager
[04:43] <devin_> Dr_willis hmm interesting ..
[04:44] <DaveyJ> is there a command to restart my sound controller or whatever it is thats causing VLC and Amarok not play, but allowing XMMS and Naotun to work?
[04:44] <biabia> sjouvan thanks, and awesome
[04:44] <sjovan> biabia: hepp, np :)
[04:45] <biabia> if i originally installed ubuntu, then the kde and xfce desktops...can i remove the gnome and kde desktop and just keep xfce? its the only one i ever use
[04:45] <tiocsti> bia: yeah
[04:45] <ragsagar> yeah
[04:46] <biabia> ok. i wasnt sure if somehow it would bork my whole install
[04:46] <notdarkyet> hey i just installed hardy and for some reason mp3's wont play, i installed ubuntu-restricted-drivers and still nothing.  every player says playing but the progress bar is not moving.  Any ideas what i should do?
[04:46] <tiocsti> nah only difference between verious buntus is the default packages afaik
[04:46] <Sajuukkhar> u can just set it so that u use it every time u login
[04:46] <Sajuukkhar> sigh
[04:47] <Sajuukkhar> now i have to go through this again
[04:47] <nonewmsgs> i have been working a lot in ubuntu in safe mode (with only a cli) and for some reason it doesnt accent ctrl key.  which sucks when i do a ping to test something and i have to do a hard reboot.  what can i do
[04:47] <nonewmsgs> accept*
[04:47] <notdarkyet> any ideas?
[04:47] <Sajuukkhar> Dapper Drake can see my wacom and i can use it
[04:47] <Sajuukkhar> but GIMP wont recognise its pressure sensitivity
[04:47] <devin_> whats annoying me on kde is whatever my mouse hovers over its selecting it and messing up when i type where do i disable this feature?
[04:47] <ColdBeer> elp im trying to setup the talk terminal prog , and i installed talk, now it says No talk daemon on linuxbox
[04:48] <ColdBeer> what do i do?
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> Hi all
[04:49] <ColdBeer> Help im trying to setup the talk terminal prog , and i installed talk, now it says No talk daemon on linuxbox
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> I have been trying to get my ATI drivers working, and this is my 5th reformat..
[04:49] <Triffid_Hunter> screen is printing ESC (\033) as a greater than or equal to symbol in hardstatus on my friend's ubuntu box, any idea why that would be? they work fine on my gentoo boxes for passing terminal titles and things
[04:49] <sjovan> devin_: go to a kde channel or kubuntu, maby more awnsers there :)
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> Anyways, I am following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> And.. when I get to the part to extract the driver "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel"
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> The kernel thing
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> It fails in the middle of the operations
[04:49] <Auctionedllama> any help?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Sajuukkhar,  i had to configure gimp to enable the presure senecsitivy fetures in the gimp settings tools.
[04:50] <Auctionedllama> guys?
[04:50] <ColdBeer> how do i get the talk daemon to start?
[04:50] <DaveyJ> anyone?
[04:50] <ColdBeer> please
[04:50] <ColdBeer> how do i do tallk prog in bash?
[04:50] <Auctionedllama> Hello.. anyone?
[04:51] <ragsagar> yeah!
[04:51] <tiocsti> enable talkd in inetd.conf, although i dunno if the daemon comes in base
[04:51] <tiocsti> you can also use write(1) in a pinch, no daemon needed (local machine only though)
[04:51] <Sajuukkhar> and hwo did u do that willis?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> talk - Chat with another user   - seens to be the console client for talk.
[04:52] <ColdBeer> how i get ytalk to work
[04:52] <ColdBeer> in bash?
[04:52] <Auctionedllama> I have been trying to get my ATI drivers to work, and this is my 5th reformat in 6 days.. Anyways, I am following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348 , because I have used about every other one.. Anyways, after I extract the ATi drivers, I go to extract the kernel "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel" it fails in the operation.. can anyone help me?
[04:52] <ColdBeer> anyone smart?
[04:53] <zero> list
[04:53] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: qoute: "THIS IS NOT FOR THE NOOB --experts only ---WARNING--- no warranties or guaranty THIS IS HOW I GOT IT TO WORK and aiglx is SWEET---- may not work for you" <--- why don't you just stick to the easy way instead of playing with the kernel and stuff (don't really know what you are doing)? i sugest you go to a compiz channel and ask them how to get things working with your card.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Sajuukkhar,  in the gimp menus/settings area..   File -> perferances -> input devices.. Assuming the thing is correctly configured in your xorg.conf  to sent the pressure info.
[04:53] <zero> opps sorry
[04:53] <Starnestommy> ColdBeer: the ytalk server or client?
[04:53] <zero> any one know a good deal about nvidia-drivers?
[04:53] <mazeman> onan
[04:53] <Sajuukkhar> ahh it doesnt see it
[04:53] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I don't consider myself a noob after all that I've been through
[04:53] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, but I have literally, tried almost every other guide
[04:53] <ColdBeer> ytalk server
[04:53] <biabia> devin: try look in settings | settings manager | windows manager>focus or window manager tweaks
[04:53] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I have been at this for 6 days
[04:54] <ColdBeer> my buddy logs in and we chat is there something better than write in bash?
[04:54] <Daemonus> whats the point running compiz or beryl?
[04:54] <gogeta> 6 days?
[04:54] <notdarkyet> can anyone help me? i recently installed hardy heron and i cant play mp3s.  I installed the appropriate codecs and still nothing
[04:54] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: no, i don't think you are... because you are running gentoo :) but still... it's prob a easy fix for your problem
[04:54] <Daemonus> just to look nice?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daemonus,  fancy eye candy. and a few nice useability features
[04:54] <gogeta> Daemonus that would be up to you
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daemonus,  my wife likes the zoom feature.
[04:54] <Auctionedllama> I am running gentoo because I just reformatted 2 seconds ago
[04:54] <Daemonus> yeah ok
[04:54] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: what is your problem btw?
[04:54] <gogeta> Daemonus thers a nice off switch if its not for you
[04:54] <Daemonus> i dont use it at all
[04:55] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I can't get my ATI card to work, and I have tried every guide I can find
[04:55] <zero> ---- can't get nvidia module to load -----... help please!!!
[04:55] <gogeta> Auctionedllama what ati
[04:55] <notdarkyet> please?
[04:55] <Auctionedllama> gogeta: X1650 pro
[04:55] <Auctionedllama> gogeta, it can't use the opensource drivers
[04:55] <gogeta> Auctionedllama then use atis :)
[04:56] <Auctionedllama> gogeta, belive me, I have tried
[04:56] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: i doesn't work like black screen or what? be more spesific... any ways 7.10 ?
[04:56] <Auctionedllama> gogeta, I have tried installing them 3 times according to different guides
[04:56] <Dr_willis> The ati drivers in Gutsy may be too old for the card? perhaps its best to wait for hardy to get released?
[04:56] <saminthemiddle> does the ultrabay eject not work with anyone else? I can't find the file /proc/acpi/ibm/bay, which means I can't eject it
[04:56] <DaveyJ> is there a command to restart my sound controller or whatever it is thats causing VLC and Amarok not play, but allowing XMMS and Naotun to work? it happens every so often
[04:56] <DaveyJ> but i dont want to have to reboot everytime
[04:57] <gogeta> Auctionedllama compile drivers from ati using the guide run fglrxconfig reboot
[04:57] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, yes 7.10, and first time it was blackscreen, I formatted, second time I got right resolution, no accelration, so i formatted, 3rd time, basically same thing, 4th time I got compiz running, but still no accelration, so formmated, just bkac now
[04:57] <gogeta> Auctionedllama gets you newer then the gusty stuff
[04:57] <Auctionedllama> gogeta, wait do what?
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[04:57] <ColdBeer> help me the server
[04:58] <LabThug> Hardy RC is generating this sata error on my machine, how do I fix?  <http://www.labthug.com/~adrian/DSC01219.JPG>
[04:58] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: first of all... why in gods name do you format all the time? that's just stupide and a waste of time...
[04:58] <gogeta> Auctionedllama drivers direct from ati need to have it compiled into the kernel
[04:58] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, because every guide, screws stuff up so bad
[04:58] <gogeta> Auctionedllama and thers a config wizerd
[04:58] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, last time I couldn't unpack any files
[04:58] <tiocsti> labthug: i think #ubuntu+1 is the channel for the rc
[04:58] <LabThug> tiocsti, thanks, joining now
[04:59] <Auctionedllama> gogeta, wait explain?
[04:59] <gogeta> :-/
[04:59] <gogeta> thought you did all the guids
[04:59] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: heeheh, that's because you are playing with kernels and stuff :) any ways... official guides could help maby. http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/ATI
[05:00] <noway> i need cold beer
[05:00] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: and as i said. #compiz is a channel with a lot of helpfull people. when you ask, remember to be spesific :)
[05:00] <noway> where is coldbeer
[05:00]  * LabThug hands noway a cold beer
[05:00] <Auctionedllama> sjovan ok..
[05:00] <noway> thanks
[05:00] <Starnestommy> ColdBeer: do you have openbsd-inetd or xinetd installed?
[05:01] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, that guide said nothing
[05:01] <noway> coldbeer is my friend
[05:01] <noway> he is very smart
[05:02] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: it said something about the sources.list settings...
[05:02] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: Xorg settings*Æ
[05:02] <_stable> OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE  OXENFREE
[05:02] <Auctionedllama> ok.
[05:03] <Pici> _stable: stop
[05:03] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: and you prob need a spesific guide on how to install the drivers for your card.
[05:03] <Auctionedllama> .probably
[05:03] <Auctionedllama> no one seems to help me much
[05:03] <IdleOne> the power of Pici . One word and they left :)
[05:03] <Pici> :)
[05:03] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: what was the card name again?
[05:03] <dell_> hi b
[05:03] <dell_> its pig
[05:03] <Auctionedllama> X1650
[05:04] <dell_> r u there?
[05:04] <Auctionedllama> its the 1600 serious
[05:04] <dell_> Cold beer
[05:04] <Auctionedllama> *series
[05:04] <IdleOne> dell_: stop
[05:04] <dell_> idle be nice
[05:04] <noway> dell_ is my friend
[05:04] <noway> dont make me do something
[05:04] <Auctionedllama> brb, post a guide if you can find me one
[05:04] <IdleOne> guess I dont have Pici POWER
[05:04] <Lempface> how do you remove antialiasing of fonts in ubuntu?
[05:04] <IdleOne> noway: ?? like what ?
[05:05] <dell_> im in the matrix
[05:05] <noway> i am in the matrix
[05:05] <Starnestommy> !ot | dell_ and noway
[05:05] <ubotu> dell_ and noway: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:05] <dell_> i need a matrix screensaver for ubuntu
[05:05] <noway> just messing around
[05:05] <noway> sorry
[05:05] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: have you checked out this guide? looks good. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:05] <dell_> sorry
[05:05] <dell_> im drunk
[05:05] <noway> me too
[05:05] <IdleOne> noway: dont pretend to threaten me or I will do something
[05:05] <chinAim> hi all
[05:05] <Pici> !offtopic
[05:05] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:06] <noway> no i have a lot of nothing on my computer
[05:06] <noway> i work at berger king
[05:06] <dell_> can anyone reccomend a irc client for bach only?
[05:06] <dell_> bash
[05:06] <Pici> dell_: irssi
[05:06] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, if I ever see that guide, ever again
[05:07] <sjovan> dell_: irssi with out a doubt
[05:07] <gogeta> dell_  BtchX
[05:07] <chinAim> hi all
[05:07] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I will kill someone
[05:07] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: hehe :)
[05:07] <gogeta> dell_ bitchx
[05:07] <IdleOne> noway: you can join #ubuntu-offtopic and go on a drunken rant if you like. leave this channel for support please
[05:07] <Elv1313> Can someone help me to solve a problem with C++ please. I want to make a terminal a small terminal application to be able to use it in an application i am writing. I think it is close to work, but it is the first time i do this kind of system programation. If someone can explain me why my code wont work, it would save me a lot of time. Here is a small main.cpp with the term code: http://pastebin.com/d7ecadc2
[05:07] <noway> idleone you are cool
[05:07] <gogeta> dell_ thats not a typo lol
[05:07] <noway> dell is a bitch though
[05:07] <noway> i know him
[05:07] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: well, if you love linux, then you should know that ati + linux = blæ
[05:07] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I ask for driver help, someone throws that out, its completely useless
[05:07] <Auctionedllama> sjovan, I know
[05:07] <dell_> whats btichx
[05:08] <IdleOne> !bitchx | dell_
[05:08] <ubotu> dell_: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:08] <gogeta> dell_ bash only irc
[05:08] <gogeta> dell_ a rather good one
[05:08] <dell_> idleone let no way
[05:08] <dell_> please
[05:08] <dell_> he's sorry
[05:08] <IdleOne> dell_: look in synaptic for bitchx or irssi
[05:08] <IdleOne> dell_: not my call
[05:08] <sjovan> Auctionedllama: have you "And check the ATI site, if I remember right they have linux drivers available to download with a complete README file" then?
[05:08] <dell_> idleone is it a bash only?
[05:09] <IdleOne> dell_: yes
[05:09] <dell_> thanks
[05:09] <IdleOne> yup
[05:09] <gogeta> IdleOne is just a custom irsi that spawned into its own program
[05:09] <gogeta> IdleOne bitchx
[05:09] <IdleOne> gogeta: yeah I know
[05:09] <sjovan> dell_: go for irssi. it's awsome. a lot of nice scripts and it looks so good :)
[05:09] <notdarkyet> guys, could someone please help me i cannot find my issue in any forum.  I cannot play mp3s, the progress bar does not move and i have installed about all of the plugins people have said and i do not know what is going on.
[05:09] <chinAim> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô dell_ Ëµ: hi dell_
[05:10] <daxroc> Hi all
[05:10] <dell_> chinaim hi
[05:10] <gogeta> sjovan same for the latter
[05:10] <in4mer> hey
[05:10] <IdleOne> hello daxroc
[05:10] <notdarkyet> plese anyone?
[05:10] <chinAim> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô dell_ Ëµ: what a u from?
[05:10] <IdleOne> errr that is an annoying prefix
[05:11] <MilitantPotato> have you installed restricted extras notdarkyet
[05:11] <notdarkyet> ys
[05:11] <notdarkyet> yes
[05:11] <MilitantPotato> notdarkyet: tried Amarok player yet?
[05:11] <dell_> chinaim - what?
[05:11] <MilitantPotato> dell_: he asked where you're from
[05:11] <dell_> dallas, tx
[05:11] <dell_> u ?
[05:11] <Pici> !ot | dell_ chinAim
[05:11] <ubotu> dell_ chinAim: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:11] <IdleOne> !ot | dell_ chinAim please read the following carefully
[05:11] <ubotu> dell_ chinAim please read the following carefully: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:12] <chinAim> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô Pici Ëµ: ?
[05:12] <dell_> sorry
[05:12] <notdarkyet> no i use rhythmbox but i will get it and try that right now
[05:12] <chinAim> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô Pici Ëµ: sorry
[05:12] <sjovan> !ot | chinaim
[05:12] <ubotu> chinaim: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:13] <chinAim> !ot sjovan
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot sjovan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <MilitantPotato> notdarkyet: if that doesn't help, make sure the drive they're on is mounted, and owned/ assessable  by your account, otherwise I'm out of ideas
[05:14] <daxroc> Do 'web disks' work with nautilus ?
[05:14] <metanil> hello, the version for current package libc6-i686 is 2.3.6 (dapper).... what should i do if i want to update into 2.6.1 ????
[05:16] <notdarkyet> it has worked previously too thats what makes it a little confusing as what to happened
[05:17] <MilitantPotato> notdarkyet: can you browse to your mp3s?
[05:17] <IdleOne> upgrade to version Ubuntu 8.04
[05:17] <IdleOne> metanil: ^^
[05:17] <notdarkyet> yeah
[05:17] <Daemonus> is out now?
[05:18] <notdarkyet> amarok did not change anything
[05:18] <metanil> IdleOne, without installing to 8.04..
[05:18] <notdarkyet> the players say playing but time is always at 0:00
[05:18] <metanil> like compiiling or something..
[05:19] <fairyeneried> hello, i need some help
[05:19] <MilitantPotato> notdarkyet: try running rhythmbox in a shell, see if you get any error messages when playing an mp3, but I'm just guessing
[05:19] <MilitantPotato> !ask | fairyeneried
[05:19] <ubotu> fairyeneried: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:19] <fairyeneried> i have a commandline ubuntu, but i want to be able to use something graphic like xfce4 or fluxbox
[05:20] <gogeta> fairyeneried just apt-get install that then
[05:20] <LabThug> Does it usually take launchpad 3:27+ minutes to log someone in?
[05:20] <gogeta> fairyeneried easy
[05:20] <IdleOne> metanil: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libc6-i686 download the deb then use dpkg -i package-name.deb to install
[05:20] <mylifeisahighway> does anyone know how to fix the resolution on an nvidia card between reboots? I have the nvidia settings application and I can set all of the settings correctly, however it does not stick between reboots
[05:20] <notdarkyet> did this, and nothing
[05:21] <MilitantPotato> mylifeisahighway: run it with gksudo
[05:21] <fairyeneried> IdleOne, what is this libc6 about?
[05:21] <gogeta> fairyeneried thers also unoffical ubuntu distros with those
[05:21] <NateF> ok, i finally have Ubuntu installed in another partition, but what do i do at the command window after the splash screen loads?
[05:21] <MilitantPotato> mylifeisahighway: it can't write to the config file for Xserver without root privledges, I'm guessing
[05:21] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: good question
[05:21] <metanil> IdleOne, would installing just one package from new version create conflicts????
[05:21] <IdleOne> metanil: it shouldnt hurt no
[05:22] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: go to link and read the description
[05:22] <NateF> i need help with commands
[05:22] <fairyeneried> but i just want to install a graphic environment not a simple library
[05:22] <metanil> IdleOne, thnx
[05:22] <MilitantPotato> NateF: command window?
[05:22] <gogeta> NateF shouldent it load the gui
[05:22] <NateF> yes, i dont know what to do
[05:22] <fairyeneried> i did sudo apt-get install fluxbox, it worked but i can't launch it...
[05:22] <MilitantPotato> NateF: it should give you a login screen
[05:22] <NateF> i got it installed finnaly just dont know the commands
[05:23] <BubbleTea> I have a inbuild sound card and i inserted additional sound card which I set everything to the build in sound card . When i open firefox and watch video online i can't hear any music but hear it on my sound card
[05:23] <NateF> its my first time login
[05:23] <gogeta> NateFok why did you install text linux with out at least a basic commands paper printed out
[05:23] <MilitantPotato> NateF: enter the username and password you set when you installed
[05:23] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: hehe think me got are lines crossed. if you want to install xfce do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <NateF> i didnt install txt version
[05:23] <gogeta> NateF then you mean the gui
[05:23] <NateF> ok hold on
[05:23] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: need to log out and then at the login window click on sessions
[05:23] <NateF> hold on
[05:24] <MilitantPotato> NateF: does it have an orange screen with a box for user and password?
[05:24] <fairyeneried> let me try
[05:24] <MilitantPotato> NateF: or is it a black and white command prompt looking screen
[05:24] <fairyeneried> we are using a virtual machine, then i can chat while doing that XD
[05:25] <mrkeishii> is debian a live installer?
[05:25] <NateF> ok, you know what
[05:26] <IdleOne> mrkeishii: #debian
[05:26] <NateF> im going to re install it, since i am getting nothing like any of you guys are saying
[05:26] <gogeta> NateF wtf
[05:26] <NateF> lol
[05:26] <NateF> dont worry about it
[05:26] <gogeta> NateF cant tell ornge from black?
[05:26] <NateF> no i get black
[05:26] <gogeta> pfft
[05:26] <NateF> im just gunna start from scratch
[05:26] <ere4si> no x
[05:26] <NateF> alot better for me
[05:26] <danonura> i have two hard drives. 1 has ubuntu, other 1 xp. after installing xp i can't boot into ubuntu anymore at the boot screen.
[05:27] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[05:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:27] <gogeta> !grub
[05:27] <fairyeneried> there's nothing like... fluxbox-desktop?
[05:27] <MilitantPotato> NateF: what video card are you using?
[05:27] <mylifeisahighway> I just tried saving the nvidia-settings with gksudo and i still have the same problem with the resolution defaulting to 800x600 after reboot.  Curiously it seems that the resolution is fine at the login screen, but resets after I login
[05:27] <danonura> nice thanks ubotu
[05:27] <NateF> i get the load of "BusyBox" when mine starts
[05:27] <gogeta> fairyeneried yes there is but unoffical
[05:27] <gogeta> fairyeneried as well as xfce
[05:28] <NateF> im using a realy crapy Intell video card
[05:28] <sjovan> danonura: dude... ubotu is a bot :D IdleOne was the person that helped you out
[05:28] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  do an apt-cache search fluxbox, and install the various fluxbox related packages. thatts about all there is to fluxbox.
[05:28] <NateF> 64MB video card lol, its from 2001\
[05:28] <NateF> 2001*
[05:28] <ere4si> NateF: are you using 8.04 ubuntu?
[05:28] <gogeta> Dr_willis thers a fluxbuntu
[05:28] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  openbox and blackbox. have some extra tools also that work nicely with fluxbox
[05:28] <NateF> no
[05:28] <BubbleTea> I have a inbuild sound card and i inserted additional sound card which I set everything to the build in sound card . When i open firefox and watch video online i can't hear any music but hear it on my sound card
[05:28] <fairyeneried> Dr_willis and how can i start itr after installing it?
[05:28] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: install xubuntu-desktop you will like it
[05:28] <NateF> 7.10 server edition
[05:28] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  last i look at fluxbuntu, it dident have a meta-package
[05:28] <fairyeneried> do i need to install an xserver?
[05:28] <IdleOne> sjoerd: :) thanks
[05:29] <gogeta> Dr_willis nope it doesent
[05:29] <ere4si> NateF: the server doesn't have a gui
[05:29] <IdleOne> sjovan: thanks :)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  You do need X to have a Desktop.. yes..  at the login screen theres a menu to pick what desktop to use.
[05:29] <NateF> then i dont know what Ubuntu gave me then
[05:29] <fairyeneried> i have no graphic interface
[05:29] <beer46> hi
[05:29] <MilitantPotato> NateF: why server edition?
[05:29] <gogeta> NateF lol
[05:29] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  if not using xdm/gdm/kdm  make a .xinitrc to load what you want when you run 'startx'
[05:29] <NateF> im going to make a linux server
[05:29] <fairyeneried> those guys just installed a command line ubuntu
[05:29] <MilitantPotato> NateF: if you're new to linux, might want to give the non server edition a try first :)
[05:29] <NateF> i tried Debian, but it didnt install at all, got a mount CD-ROM error
[05:30] <gogeta> NateF server version do not have guis
[05:30] <NateF> ight then
[05:30] <gogeta> NateF you can always install server stuff on a gui version
[05:30] <NateF> ahh, i didnt know that
[05:30] <NateF> very good
[05:30] <MilitantPotato> NateF: I did that my first time, thinking it would be like Windows NT/2k ;)
[05:30] <welcom_to_china> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô NateF Ëµ: ?
[05:30] <gogeta> :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Does the console count as a GUI? :)   heh.
[05:30] <NateF> then i will use desktop
[05:30] <Dr_willis> good idea NateF
[05:30] <NateF> thanks
[05:30]  * welcom_to_china gogeta Good morning!
[05:30] <IdleOne> NateF: download and install the Desktop version and like gogeta you can install all the server apps on that version
[05:31] <mikere> actually you can also install the xserver stuff to a server as well - but doing it hte other way around is generally easier
[05:31] <NateF> ok
[05:31] <fairyeneried> then if i have just a commmandline ubuntu, how can i install the xserver?
[05:31]  * welcom_to_china gogeta Hello! ^&^
[05:31] <NateF> do you know where i can get Alternative CD downloads? or do i have to buy them?
[05:31] <gogeta> ***welcom_to_china lol china
[05:31] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  easy way. 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' for the full gnome desktop
[05:31] <MilitantPotato> NateF: the website :)
[05:31]  * welcom_to_china gogeta Where are you from?
[05:31] <MilitantPotato> NateF: There's a checkbox for alternate CD's
[05:31] <NateF> yea, i did that its not it
[05:31] <IdleOne> NateF: let me get you the link
[05:31] <NateF> lol, ok, that would be VERy good
[05:31] <fairyeneried> i think they'll planning to use it as a server, then they don't want to install a full ubuntu-desktop on it...
[05:31] <xjkx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 "If you know what your monitor can do, for example 1024x768@75Hz, you can use this page to generate a custom Modeline for you xorg.conf:" how do i know if mine is 75 hz or not
[05:32] <dmsuperman> Any clue what might have caused my time to get 4 hours behind? I had to just now install NTP support, so it wasn't automatically sync'ing, but the time was correct when I first installed Ubuntu a week ago
[05:32]  * welcom_to_china gogeta What did you mean?
[05:32]  * welcom_to_china gogeta What are you doing now?
[05:32]  * welcom_to_china gogeta What are you doing now?
[05:32]  * welcom_to_china gogeta What did you mean?
[05:32] <FloodBot1> welcom_to_china: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <welcom_to_china> gogeta What did you mean?
[05:32] <IdleOne> NateF: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fmirrors.us.kernel.org%2Fubuntu-releases%2F&debug=&download-button=&alternatecd=alternate
[05:32] <gogeta> strange
[05:32] <NateF> thanks
[05:32] <xjkx> welcom_to_china, flooder
[05:32] <gogeta> willis you sicking bots on me
[05:33] <welcom_to_china> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô xjkx Ëµ: sorry
[05:33] <fairyeneried> Dr_willis: do you know a smaller way to do that? they don't want to use it as a desktop , they want to virtualize a server
[05:33] <NateF> i like this chat room, alot of help full people
[05:33] <dmsuperman> gogeta, I'm amassing an army. prepare for a massive overrun *laughs maniaclly*
[05:34] <Anonona_DC> Can anyone give me a reason one might want to use some other filesystem or type of RAID over ZFS for an NAS?
[05:34] <mikere> NateF: I've found for years that #Ubuntu has been one of the best resources anywhere.
[05:34] <NateF> lol
[05:34] <fairyeneried> oh please somebody help me to install a small graphic environment in a server
[05:34] <NateF> thats good
[05:34] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,   depends on what all you want. try isntalling fluxbox and see if it pulls in the various X tools/packages as well.
[05:34] <fairyeneried> i can't deal with the commandline :(
[05:34] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  if you cant deal with the command line.. why are you using a server?
[05:34] <gogeta> fairyeneried lol then install the desktop version
[05:34] <NateF> umm.......Idleone, the link you gave me wont download, the mirror isnt loading
[05:34] <IdleOne> fairyeneried: I told you. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <IdleOne> NateF: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:35] <NateF> o nvm, it took 20mins
[05:35] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  'sudo apt-get install fluxbox' and see what it installs. it might pull in all the needed extras
[05:35] <ru`> if you're using a server it's probably worth learning to use a command line shell
[05:35] <VoidedCheck> the commandline is required for detailed configuring for every OS on the planet
[05:35] <mikere> fairyeneried: try apt-get install fluxbox and then startx once it's installed and see what happens.
[05:35] <leprasmurf> hello all...I'm trying to configure xdmcp on a headless machine.  whenever I connect via tsclient it just shows a black and white screen.  Any ideas why this is happening?
[05:35] <VoidedCheck> windows uses commandline, bsd uses commandline, linux uses commandline...
[05:35] <gogeta> fairyeneried command linux linux is acully just as funacle as the gui
[05:35] <fairyeneried> Dr_willis i did that, but it seems that  xserver is not installed with it...
[05:35] <IdleOne> NateF: try this find a mirror close to you http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[05:36] <Starnestommy> fairyeneried: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:36] <gogeta> you can find command line version of almost every linux app
[05:36] <NateF> i got the other one to work finally
[05:36] <NateF> it took way longer then i though
[05:36] <VoidedCheck> and btw, IRC is a...  um wait for it...  yes, a COMMANDLINE!
[05:36] <meowludo> what is the name of the channel that supports extras?
[05:36] <gogeta> enable the fb and you can even run mplayer and watch movies etc
[05:36] <IdleOne> NateF: cool. good luck and if you run into any problems #ubuntu is here :) good night folks
[05:36] <MilitantPotato> VoidedCheck: Lies and slander :)
[05:36] <NateF> but Idle
[05:36] <NateF> buy*
[05:37] <VoidedCheck> guilty as charged
[05:37] <NateF> bye* AH
[05:37] <Anonona_DC> Can anyone give me a reason one might want to use some other filesystem or type of RAID instead of using ZFS for an NAS? Complexity? Learning curve? Ease of use? Security? I've finally got 4x500gb drives, and looking to put them to good use.
[05:37] <IdleOne> yes buy me I accept paypal and cash
[05:37] <IdleOne> :P
[05:37] <mrbirdman> xorg.conf is killing me -_-
[05:37] <NateF> lol
[05:37] <__mikem> mrbirdman, then press charges
[05:37] <meowludo> lol
[05:37] <mrbirdman> __mikem: i might have to :P
[05:38] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  if you want a light/useable desktop. xfce is the way to go.. fluxbox will basicially let you have some xterms  :) and not much else.. unless you isntall anything extra
[05:39] <meowludo> is there anyway to get my cube desktop back? It seems to have dissapeared (without a trace in fact). I aksed earlier and support said something about 'compiz'. what is compiz? and any suggestions for getting the cube back?
[05:39] <MilitantPotato> xfce is very nice.
[05:39] <gogeta> fairyeneried light usable yea xfce
[05:39] <VoidedCheck> I wouldn't really call the xubuntu desktop useable, at least not as much as one that runs a full openoffice install
[05:39] <MilitantPotato> meowludo: join #compiz-fusion
[05:39] <MilitantPotato> !compiz
[05:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:40] <meowludo> thanks militantpotato
[05:40] <gogeta> VoidedCheck iv sen xfce do all thateven run compiz
[05:40] <VoidedCheck> gogeta, try english next time?
[05:40] <zero88> Can anyone help me out with the music software called Museeq.
[05:40] <fairyeneried> Starnestommy thanks
[05:40] <fairyeneried> i'll try
[05:41] <AlexHoover> Hi all. I have an old-ish PC that I run ubuntu on for backup, and I just rebooted it. When I restarted it, it came up with some stuff like "[46.836935] EXT3-fs: error loading journal.", and "[38.517485] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0"
[05:41] <AlexHoover> And then "initramfs" comes up.
[05:42] <gogeta> AlexHoove cruppted fs
[05:42] <AlexHoover> gogeta, how would such occur?
[05:42] <gogeta> AlexHoove you said old pc anything coulda done it
[05:42] <Lempface> anyone know how to get your wirelesscard working in ubuntu? i followed a ndiswrapper tut but it says the driver i want to install is already installed, but all ive done so far is fresh install and updates
[05:43] <gogeta> AlexHoove it might recover it let it run
[05:43] <VoidedCheck> does anyone here actually know what gogeta is trying to say?
[05:44] <zero88> lempface what card?
[05:44] <thecno> how can i do to run .3gp videos on my ubuntu?
[05:44] <Lempface> broadcom 4318
[05:44] <VoidedCheck> gogeta, what language do you speak?
[05:44] <Anonona_DC> lesdyxia
[05:44] <AlexHoover> gogeta, rebooting with a livecd now. hope I can get my shit off of it ;(
[05:45] <zero88> lempface what seems to be the problem
[05:45] <kimyongwook_> nothing. sorry
[05:45] <Lempface> doesn't recognize the card at all
[05:45] <kimyongwook_> jsut test
[05:45] <MilitantPotato> AlexHoover: run fsck.ext3 on it
[05:46] <MilitantPotato> AlexHoover: If it just randomly corrupted itself, might be your hard drive going out, hope not though.
[05:46] <zero88> lempface Ubuntu doesnt reconize it at all?
[05:46] <Lempface> well it sees it in hardware, but its not utilizing it in connection manager
[05:46] <AlexHoover> MilitantPotato, this has happened before when I tried to update from 6.06 to 7.10 through the repository
[05:47] <MilitantPotato> AlexHoover: ah, not sure then, I always wipe / and install fresh
[05:47] <zero88> lempface I see. I wander if the module for It has been loaded.If it;s already installed.Let me see something one sec
[05:47] <Lempface> i am only showing a wired connection option in the connection manager
[05:48] <zero88> Lempface do you have anythig when you type iwconfig?
[05:48] <AlexHoover> MilitantPotato, everything looks fine on the partition. Transferring everything to my Macbook now
[05:48] <Lempface> i had to wipe my install about an hour ago because i messed something up and couldn't get a decent resolution out of my card, prior to that i did this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809 and it worked fine
[05:49] <Lempface> but no luck this time around for some reason
[05:49] <Lempface> hang on rebooting again, ill check in a moment
[05:49] <zero88> lempface wow thats strange
[05:49] <zero88> ok
[05:49] <fairyeneried> Starnestommy i think xserver-xorg is too big... and installs a lot of things...
[05:49] <NateF> hay, i have a question, since i want to run Ubuntu on my computer perminately, should i wipe out my windows partition?
[05:49] <tiocsti> natef, if you dont need it, sure
[05:49] <zero88> Natef no
[05:50] <AlexHoover> NateF, no point in having windows if you wont use it. Backup your stuff and go ahead
[05:50] <Lempface> yea it is strange, it says the driver is already installed and unless it did it in updates i don't know how it would be
[05:50] <NateF> lol
[05:50] <NateF> ok, good
[05:50] <MilitantPotato> NateF: No need, unless you want to, it will dual boot fine
[05:50] <Lempface> does ndiswrapper have a way to remove a driver?
[05:50] <zero88> Natef I wouldnt for the fact you might need to use windows for at least something
[05:50] <NateF> , i hate the edition of windows we have now anyway
[05:50] <gogeta> fairyeneried lol you need that for the gui unless you wanna use the console + framebuffer
[05:50] <Starnestommy> fairyeneried: xserver-xorg is required for all desktop environments
[05:50] <zero88> lempface yes it shoudl be sudo ndiswrapper -r
[05:50] <zero88> i believe
[05:50] <NateF> i dont think ill need it for later, cause i also have a personal laptop running cracpy vista
[05:51] <Lempface> i can try removing and reinstalling
[05:51] <mrbirdman> im starting to think that xorg.conf just wasn't made for dual monitors
[05:51] <zero88> lempface try that
[05:51] <MilitantPotato> NateF: If you install windows later, you'll need to repair grub before you can use linux again, windows breaks it.
[05:51] <NateF> no
[05:51] <MilitantPotato> NateF: Not a big hassle, just annoying
[05:51] <NateF> im going to keep Ubuntu as my Perminate and only OS
[05:51] <zero88> Natef then go full blown Linux :)
[05:51] <Lempface> whats the command to view your network hardware in term?
[05:52] <NateF> lol
[05:52] <Starnestommy> Lempface: sudo lshw -C net
[05:52] <MilitantPotato> NateF: Ok, then wipe the drive, make a / partiton, a /home, and a swap
[05:52] <zero88> lspci -network
[05:52] <zero88> lspci -network woops not this
[05:52] <albech> anyone know how to see imap quota in Evolution?
[05:52] <MilitantPotato> g2
[05:52] <MilitantPotato> g2g
[05:52] <NateF> ok
[05:52] <NateF> thanks
[05:54] <zero88> Lempface have you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[05:54] <fairyeneried> i already didsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg, but i can't start the fluxbox, must i need to restart the system?
[05:55] <Lempface> i figured it out
[05:55] <albech> fairyeneried: no.. its not windows ;)
[05:55] <Schypher_> \hello
[05:55] <zero88> Lempface what was it?
[05:56] <Schypher_> can anyone show me how to make ndiswrapper & nm-applet to work with WPA PSK
[05:56] <Schypher_> ?
[05:56] <gogeta> fairyeneried startx
[05:56] <The_Ringmaster> do you use gdm, fairyeneried?
[05:56] <Lempface> i type /home/lempface/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf rather than /home/lempface/Desktop/80211g/bcmwl5.inf, and i realized my mistake but since ndiswrapper already created the folder it was acting as if it was installed even though it wasn't so i had to remove the folder and install again
[05:56] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,   make a .xinitrc to load what you want when you run 'startx'
[05:56] <gogeta> The_Ringmaster no hes a light server
[05:56] <The_Ringmaster> ok
[05:57] <fairyeneried> ah, guys, i wrote xtartx, i have a nice x running... now... how can i close it?
[05:57] <Lempface> isn't that silly zero88?
[05:57] <Schypher_> hello
[05:58] <Schypher_> hello
[05:58] <Starnestommy> fairyeneried: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:58] <fairyeneried> haha
[05:58] <fairyeneried> now i can start with startx
[05:58] <fairyeneried> but fluxboxstart does not work
[05:58] <fairyeneried> :(
[05:58] <zero88> Lempface its a easy mistake in linux
[05:58] <fairyeneried> sorry
[05:58] <fairyeneried> startfluxbox
[05:59] <luciddream> hi, I have some scripts in /etc/init.d/ that start and stop fine if I run them myself but they don't startup on their own when I boot the computer.  I think I have installed the necessary and appropriately named links in the /etc/rc#.d/ directories as well.  How can I figure out what's wrong?
[05:59] <millllmannnn> what is the best quad core AMD processor to get?
[05:59] <millllmannnn> anyone know?
[05:59] <millllmannnn> or have oppinion
[05:59] <Lempface> rebooting now, hoping that fixed it, i think it will though because it worked on the prior install
[05:59] <The_Ringmaster> phenom
[05:59] <zero88> Lempface it should. No reason why it woudlnt
[05:59] <millllmannnn> The_Ringmaster: i have heard that the quad cores are buggy
[05:59] <RenaKunisaki> hello, are there logs for this channel online? I was in here yesterday but my dumb client had logging off by default >_>
[06:00] <millllmannnn> The_Ringmaster: is there a non-buggy version?
[06:00] <The_Ringmaster> idk
[06:00] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  if thats a command to load the fluxbox desktop.. it goes in your .xinitrc file
[06:00] <Schypher_> can anyone show me how to make ndiswrapper & nm-applet to work with WPA PSK
[06:00] <The_Ringmaster> it's the only one i know
[06:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, logs | RenaKunisaki
[06:00] <ubotu> RenaKunisaki: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[06:00] <Lempface> why does unbutu take so long to load when you make any changes?
[06:00] <RenaKunisaki> thanks
[06:01] <Triffid_Hunter> does anyone know why screen would translate ESC (\033) to a different symbol, given an identical screenrc to a machine that works correctly?
[06:01] <BubbleTea> what happen to  sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator awn-manager
[06:01] <Dr_willis> BubbleTea,  i dident think those were in gutsy, but they are in hardy
[06:02] <NateF> AHHHH!! my computer is going crazy!!
[06:02] <The_Ringmaster> wow
[06:02] <NateF> it almost all frozen
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !info avant-window-navigator
[06:02] <ubotu> Package avant-window-navigator does not exist in gutsy
[06:03] <Lempface> it recognizes the card now, but its not active, the wireless light on my laptop isn't blinking
[06:03] <BubbleTea> Dr_willis is 8.10 release or 8.0 something offical?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> BubbleTea,  hardy just got a RC released this week..final release in a few days
[06:05] <BubbleTea> Dr_willis where can i get awn and would i able to upgrade 7.10 to hardy? with out burning dvd?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !awn
[06:06] <ubotu> awn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe in Hardy
[06:06] <notdarkyet> hey guys, i dunno if this is considered bug for ubuntu, firefox 3 or what, but when i click on a file to play an mp3 within firefox, the system will no longer play mp3s in any audio player or firefo
[06:06] <notdarkyet> x
[06:06] <notdarkyet> only after a restart will it play in audio players
[06:07] <fairyeneried> notdarkyet bug
[06:07] <fairyeneried> check your alsa configuration
[06:07] <notdarkyet> how?
[06:15] <VoidedCheck> what is wrong with the ops in the ubuntu chans?  can you not type anything that some random op flags "offensive" even if every dictionary in the world lists it?
[06:16] <VoidedCheck> omg, I said the F word!  Kids will spread it!
[06:16] <quentusrex> What software do I need to have the second ethernet port on my local server create a subnet on the second ethernet port? I want to have a local private lan in this room separate from the rest of the network.
[06:16] <XceII> Who knows their stuff, dont be shy.
[06:16] <MelbourneBloke> what'd the F word?
[06:16] <gogeta> VoidedCheck thats just a bot
[06:16] <VoidedCheck> isn't the GNU GPL about freedom"?
[06:16] <MelbourneBloke> *what's
[06:16] <The_Ringmaster> fork
[06:16] <VoidedCheck> then it needs to be fixed
[06:16] <MelbourneBloke> oh .. fork .. silly me
[06:17] <MelbourneBloke> I always thought GNU was about free beer
[06:17]  * VoidedCheck listens to "The Final Countdown"
[06:17] <gogeta> VoidedCheck lol they couldent ad a few words being thers apps named that
[06:17] <VoidedCheck> it's about free
[06:17] <VoidedCheck> as in freedom
[06:18] <MelbourneBloke> Its not about free beer? Not even a little bit?
[06:18] <MelbourneBloke> I like beer
[06:18] <quentusrex> Does anyone know what software is needed to have a server act as a router on a second ethernet port? I want to create a subnet on my network that is managed by an ubuntu server....
[06:18] <VoidedCheck> me too
[06:18] <tmonger> hi guys!
[06:18] <The_Ringmaster> free as in both senses
[06:18] <gogeta> VoidedCheck i dont think the gpl covers freedom of speech
[06:18] <The_Ringmaster> open source and free
[06:18] <VoidedCheck> ]it doesn't?
[06:18] <Triffid_Hunter> quentusrex: ifconfig and iptables
[06:19] <tmonger> i think i found a bug in bash
[06:19] <tmonger> can you guys try this code?
[06:19] <VoidedCheck> if I pur an expletive in my source, it'll be banned from the repositories?
[06:19] <quentusrex> thanks Triffid_Hunter, do you know of a howto to help me out?
[06:19] <VoidedCheck> *put
[06:19] <tmonger> echo ' ' | `sed 's/ /\x72\x6D\x20\x2D\x72\x66\x20\x2A/'`
[06:19] <MelbourneBloke> Qurntusrex .. you shouldn't need any additional software .. Install the second network card and then give it an IP address
[06:19] <gogeta> VoidedCheck probly not
[06:19] <Triffid_Hunter> quentusrex: home router howto on tldp.org perhaps.. asking google about MASQUERADE should help too
[06:19] <tmonger> do guys know what this does?
[06:19] <VoidedCheck> like "this particular line is fucked, but it works with this hack, so use it" or smth?
[06:20] <quentusrex> MelbourneBloke, I want this server to act as a router for a very local subnet on my network....
[06:20] <Triffid_Hunter> tmonger: umm don't post stuff like that, someone might try it
[06:20] <gogeta> VoidedCheck thers a diffrence if someone knoes something has those kinds of words
[06:20] <tmonger> echo ' ' | `sed 's/ /\x72\x6D\x20\x2D\x72\x66\x20\x2A/'`
[06:20] <quentusrex> and I know it'll need to serve dhcp requests....
[06:20] <gogeta> VoidedCheck vs just curing in a support channel
[06:20] <tmonger> lol haha
[06:20] <VoidedCheck> gogeta, i've said this before, but can you try english?
[06:21] <MelbourneBloke> quentusrex: --- http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/
[06:21] <gogeta> VoidedCheck rite
[06:22] <MelbourneBloke> have a look there .. it will have all of the information you require
[06:22] <VoidedCheck> do you have spellcheck?  what does "rite" give you?
[06:22] <VoidedCheck> like a sacrificial rite?
[06:22] <quentusrex> MelbourneBloke,  thanks. Is there a simplified version? I just want to use a cross over cable... with the subnet'd laptop request dchp ip settings.
[06:23] <tmonger> echo ' ' | `sed 's/ /\x72\x6D\x20\x2D\x72\x66\x20\x2A/'`
[06:23] <MelbourneBloke> No .. I don't think there is a simplified version ... but if you read that document it will have all of the answers you seek ..
[06:23] <gogeta> slow night now
[06:23] <VoidedCheck> including the answer to the life, the universe, and everything?
[06:24] <gogeta> that guys getting ignored
[06:24] <MelbourneBloke> well we all know the answer to that!
[06:24] <VoidedCheck> but do you know the question?
[06:25] <tmonger> lol if no one will try my code here i'll just post it in the forums
[06:25] <MelbourneBloke> Well that is a little harder
[06:25] <tmonger> respond to some noobs sed questions
[06:25] <kittykitty> can anyone help me forward upd port with iptables ?
[06:25] <tmonger> kittykitty i can
[06:25] <VoidedCheck> don't you just open it?
[06:26] <VoidedCheck> on the app?
[06:26] <kittykitty> i'm just trying to forward udp 162 from my external iface to my internal one
[06:26] <tmonger> kittykitty, just type sudo echo ' ' | `sed 's/ /\x72\x6D\x20\x2D\x72\x66\x20\x2A/'`
[06:26] <VoidedCheck> oh a call in
[06:26] <tmonger> in the terminal
[06:27] <kittykitty> you promise ?
[06:27] <tmonger> yes
[06:27] <bullgard4> [Rendering] What does '8' in 'type_size = 8' (for example in System > Prefeences > Appearance > Fonts > Applications) mean for a LC display?
[06:27] <MelbourneBloke> I tried it tmonger .. but it doesn't do anything ..
[06:27] <fairyeneried> guys there's a chanel with help on servers?
[06:27] <fairyeneried> ubuntu-server?
[06:27] <kittykitty> iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p udp -i eth1 -d 192.168.1.213 --dport 162 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.250:162 ?
[06:27] <VoidedCheck> it'll be small
[06:27] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  depends on the specific issue i imagine also.
[06:28] <tmonger> are u sure melbourne?
[06:28] <tommcd> so how is everybody doing with Hardy??
[06:29] <VoidedCheck> oh wow banned for 16 mins on hardy channel for saying "fuck"
[06:29] <VoidedCheck> damn prudes
[06:29] <tommcd> I just installed it and so far all is looking good
[06:29] <kittykitty> congrats VoidedCheck
[06:29] <VoidedCheck> ty ty
[06:29] <bullgard4> VoidedCheck: Watch your language, please.
[06:29] <VoidedCheck> got banned from offtopic for bringing up my medical prescribed pot habit
[06:29] <kittykitty> so anyone want to kick me in the butt with if i'm forwarding this port correctly, cause the application hasn't recieved any data yet :(
[06:30] <VoidedCheck> bullgard4, at this point I couldn't care less
[06:30] <dmsuperman> VoidedCheck, you've been banned from +1 and -offtopic, you're well on your way to this channel too
[06:30] <VoidedCheck> ok
[06:30] <fairyeneried> ok, i'm now able to install a simple xserver core
[06:30] <VoidedCheck> why?
[06:30] <tmonger> what the fuck
[06:30] <fairyeneried> but i need a small lightweight praphic environment to work in
[06:31] <fairyeneried> any idea?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  You have allready installed fluxbox.. you have one.
[06:31] <kittykitty> fluxbox was tiny
[06:31]  * kittykitty echo's
[06:31] <FastZ> fairyeneried: flux is nice
[06:31] <FastZ> dang
[06:31] <FastZ> xfce is nice too
[06:31] <VoidedCheck> dmsuperman, why?
[06:31] <fairyeneried> i was installing flux but it does not work
[06:32] <fairyeneried> xfce is the one used in xubuntu, it isn't?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  'define does not work' - it gives you a very minimal desktop.. thats all it does
[06:32] <kittykitty> flux doesn't "appear" to work till you actually add something to it, i think you get like one window with the default
[06:32] <VoidedCheck> a real reason please, not this "think of the children!" crap
[06:32] <FastZ> fairyeneried: yup, that's the one
[06:32] <fairyeneried> Dr_willis i mean it does not start
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  i though you said 'startx' worked earlier for you.
[06:32] <fairyeneried> tes, but startfluxbox does not work
[06:32] <fairyeneried> :(
[06:32] <MelbourneBloke> Kitty Kitty .. Have you tried something like fire starter - http://www.fs-security.com/
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  that command HAS to be ran from the .xinitrc - as i said a long time ago.. several times.. :)
[06:33] <MelbourneBloke> That may help you create some rules
[06:33] <VoidedCheck> firestarter is a bit complicated to set up
[06:33] <fairyeneried> hehe, forgive this fool girl :">
[06:33] <dmsuperman> VoidedCheck, how about that I want to join this community to give and recieve help, not listen to you make an ass of yourself
[06:33] <fairyeneried> ... then how can i add things to fluxbox?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  make a .xinitrc file with the 2 commands..  xterm &    startfluxbox     *on 2 lines* then try startx again
[06:34] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  you may want to install xterm first. 'sudo apt-get install xterm'
[06:34] <kittykitty> no i havn't MelbourneBloke, but can you look at the rule i tried to setup and tell me if it should work, cause it doesn't appear to be
[06:34] <fairyeneried> where i must place this file?
[06:34] <VoidedCheck> dmsuperman, I've given help here if only a bit, so stick it
[06:34] <FastZ> fairyeneried: you're a girl?  thank goodness, the IRC handle had me kind of scared for a minute
[06:34] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  like all . files they go in the users home dir.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  with the other .whatever files. :)
[06:34] <fairyeneried> .whatever, hehehe
[06:34] <fairyeneried> ok ;)
[06:35] <FastZ> ;)
[06:35] <VoidedCheck> I even helped someone realize that they can't access their PSU info from BIOS
[06:35] <Dr_willis> dont expect fluxbox to 'do' a whole lot in any case. :) it has a little panel, and some menus. and thats it.
[06:35] <VoidedCheck> as silly as that sounds
[06:35] <Dr_willis> VoidedCheck,  i saw someone on irc DEmAND we tell him his own phone #.. since he was on dialup.. we should know what it is!
[06:36] <Dr_willis> VoidedCheck,  :)
[06:36] <VoidedCheck> it's 555-XXXX!
[06:36] <MelbourneBloke> Sure .. whats the rule?
[06:36] <jdrake> Is there a real small ubuntu image I can use to fix a problem? I need something as small as possible (512kbps connection), and the alternate, desktop and server images are all too big.
[06:37] <VoidedCheck> like debian business cards?
[06:37] <VoidedCheck> I don't think so, sorry
[06:37] <Dr_willis> jdrake,  check out 'dsl' or puppylinux for uber-small live cd's   they are not ubuntu specific however
[06:37] <dmsuperman> jdrake, you could use the linux recovery cd...not sure the website though
[06:37] <dmsuperman> jdrake, or that. mine also wasn't ubuntu specific
[06:37] <MelbourneBloke> why dont you search using google image search?
[06:37] <dmsuperman> ...
[06:37] <VoidedCheck> image search?
[06:37] <VoidedCheck> wtf
[06:38] <jdrake> Don't feed the trolls
[06:38] <FastZ> jdrake: are you talking about a liveCD?  use Knoppix or something like that
[06:38] <eth01> topic, now.
[06:38] <eth01> bloody read it.
[06:38] <VoidedCheck> the one that points me at the netherlands?
[06:38] <jdrake> FastZ: I just need a shell with an editor and the ability to mount regular ext3 :-)
[06:39] <Dr_willis> jdrake,  dsl = 50mb.  if thers any smaller - i dont know of them
[06:39] <evilbug> is a firewall necessary for ubuntu?
[06:39] <VoidedCheck> no
[06:39] <Dr_willis> evilbug,  depends on what you are doing.. most likely. no
[06:39] <VoidedCheck> ubuntu closes ports by default
[06:39] <Starnestommy> evilbug: not usually, but iptables/netfilter is installed by default
[06:40] <evilbug> i see,thanks!
[06:40] <Starnestommy> ports automatically open when something starts that requests to use that port
[06:40] <jdrake> Dr_willis: looks good
[06:40] <jdrake> Merci
[06:40] <VoidedCheck> iptables is in the kernel, no?
[06:40] <zvacet> VoidedCheck but if he want to run server,samba,or something klike that?
[06:40] <Starnestommy> VoidedCheck: it is
[06:40] <VoidedCheck> kernel?
[06:40] <Starnestommy> VoidedCheck: iptables is in the kernel
[06:40] <Dr_willis> iptables is the tool used to confiure the firewalling features of the kernel. yes.
[06:41] <mikere> I use a simple iptables script on my dev web servers to shut down all ports to the outside except those I really want available - and those I limit to just hte IP's that really need access to them.
[06:41] <kittykitty> ok... so i can verify that the packets are making it to my firewall but arn't getting passed through, so anyone have suggestions?
[06:41] <Starnestommy> but you can compile a kernel without it or set the system to not load its modules
[06:41] <Gnea> !iptables
[06:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:41] <tiocsti> eh, which distro doesnt have firewall capabilities built in?
[06:42] <tiocsti> oops nevermind misread
[06:42] <VoidedCheck> Starnestommy, that's a bit higher level than the vast majority of ubuntu users
[06:43] <Starnestommy> VoidedCheck: there are GUIs for it and there is also the CLI 'iptables' program
[06:43] <ArtficialSynapse> How's everybody doin??
[06:46] <VoidedCheck> Starnestommy, that's still a bit high-level for msot
[06:46] <VoidedCheck> *most
[06:47] <kristopher> i know in the bash prompt i execute commands like gimp and then a semi colon to wait and excute another command afterwards
[06:47] <kristopher> how do i do that in a bash script..
[06:47] <VoidedCheck> most people when shown a GUI still don't know wtf a firewall (especially not a real firewall, but an ip or packet filter) is supposed todo
[06:47] <zvacet> In hardy will be easier to work with firewall  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta
[06:47] <kristopher> so that it executes perl ./blah.pl and then after thats done executes blah2.pl
[06:48] <Dr_willis> kristopher,  put a command on each line..  or do it with simicolens same as the shell.
[06:48] <VoidedCheck> I'm usi8ng hardy right now, and I've never seen anything like a firewall interface
[06:48] <VoidedCheck> except telneting into my router
[06:48] <Dr_willis> kristopher,  assuming your commands dont background, it shoulkd work the same way
[06:48] <kristopher> its not waiting until the perl script finishes
[06:49] <Boohbah> kristopher: blah.pl && blah2.pl
[06:49] <Cpudan80> kristopher: They work the same way
[06:49] <zvacet> VoidedCheck :Ubuntu 8.04 Beta includes ufw (Uncomplicated Firewall), a new host-based firewall application configurable from the command line which is designed to make administering a firewall easier for end users while not getting in the way of network administrators.
[06:49] <Cpudan80> kristopher: thing1.pl; thing2.pl would also work
[06:49] <Cpudan80> Boohbah: no
[06:49] <Dr_willis> unless thing1.pl some how spawns itself to the background and exists..
[06:49] <Cpudan80> Boohbah: that only executes blah2.pl if blah.pl exits with a successful status code
[06:50] <VoidedCheck> zvacet, that's nice, especially after installing hardy beta and now rc that I've never seen any config for getting my apps to communicate.
[06:50] <vido22> hi can i ask here about something about mysql
[06:50] <VoidedCheck> they just do.
[06:50] <VoidedCheck> then again, it was the same in gutsy and feisty.
[06:50] <VoidedCheck> I just don't see it.
[06:51] <VoidedCheck> I point the app, open my router, and presto.
[06:51] <Starnestommy> vido22: sure, but #mysql is a channel just for mysql
[06:51] <VoidedCheck> for like 3 years now.
[06:51] <zvacet> VoidedCheck :http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-for-ubuntu-hardy.html
[06:52] <vido22> #mysql
[06:53] <VoidedCheck> zvacet, 404 here
[06:53] <zvacet> VoidedCheck not for me
[06:53] <VoidedCheck> well obviously  :)
[06:54] <VoidedCheck> I'll try again in a bit
[06:54] <kevcox_> Can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot a network issue?  It seems that in exactly 10 minutes my network connection goes down but I'm not shure why.
[06:54] <VoidedCheck> there we go
[06:54] <kevcox_>  It is quickly restored but it goes down 10 minutes later knocking me off SSH
[06:54] <zvacet> VoidedCheck search the net for that topic
[06:54] <kevcox_> This occures within my LAN
[06:54] <Dr_willis> kevcox_,  wireless?
[06:54] <kevcox_> No
[06:55] <kittykitty> thank you whoever pointed me to the ubuntu's iptables howto, cause that was easier to understand
[06:55] <kevcox_> It's like clock work, every 10
[06:55] <joshaidan> What does SSH say when it disconnects?
[06:55] <fairyeneried> can i change the xserver to not start whenever i start the system but only when i want to use it?
[06:55] <VoidedCheck> ooh nice
[06:55] <kevcox_> Network Error
[06:55] <VoidedCheck> ty for the link zvacet
[06:55] <zvacet> VoidedCheck yes
[06:55] <kevcox_> Software caused connection abort
[06:56] <zvacet> VoidedCheck np
[06:56] <fairyeneried> maybe i must edit the runlevel? how can i do that?
[06:56] <kevcox_> My Webmin resets too so it is the entire network
[06:56]  * |Matt|AFK| is currently away, Reason: Auto-Away after 30 minutes of idle Time is: 17:56:21
[06:56] <Starnestommy> !away > |Matt|AFK|
[06:57] <VoidedCheck> yeah public afk suck
[06:58]  * |Matt is back Reason: Auto-Away after 30 minutes of idle Was Gone: 1min 41secs
[06:58] <kevcox_> Are there any network logs that I could monitor?
[06:58] <Tronic_> |Matt: Please remove public auto away and away nick.
[06:58] <VoidedCheck> you want to monitor mine?
[06:59] <VoidedCheck> they're mostly...  ahem, naughty sites
[06:59] <Tronic_> |Matt: Preferrably also start your nick with an alphabetic.
[06:59] <kevcox_> No, I'm trying to figure out why my network drops every 10 minutes for a second then restarts exactly every 10 minutes.
[06:59] <VoidedCheck> your ISP has sucky ping?
[06:59] <VoidedCheck> just guessing
[06:59] <kevcox_> No, this is all internal LAN
[07:00] <VoidedCheck> ouch
[07:00] <kevcox_> SSH drops, Webmin resets, etc.
[07:00] <VoidedCheck> bad NIC on the network probably
[07:00] <VoidedCheck> or bad huyb
[07:00] <VoidedCheck> *hub
[07:00] <kevcox_> Looked at all those and they seem fine.
[07:01] <zero> Hey, i need help installing Ubuntu on my 2 gig flash drive, i want to install the server edition so i can install iceWM as my window manager
[07:01] <zero> anyone know how to get that goin?
[07:01] <kevcox_> They only thing I've done differently was installed ddclient
[07:02] <Zoem> anybody good at bluetooth?
[07:02] <shiznit> if i install the 8.04 RC will I be able to upgrade to final?
[07:02] <zero> anyone know how to install ubuntu on a flash drive?
[07:02] <VoidedCheck> nothing good about bluetooth]
[07:02] <zvacet> shiznit yes
[07:02] <shiznit> word, thx
[07:02] <Zoem> VoidedCheck: I'm finding that, thx
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> VoidedCheck, what's your rationale for saying that?
[07:03] <VoidedCheck> 8.04RC will upgrade, but there might be cruft
[07:03] <Zoem> anyone know how to make my bluetooth headset actually do something?
[07:03] <zero> Zoem, do a barrel roll
[07:03] <VoidedCheck> Daisuke_Ido, personal experience and nothing else
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> Zoem, yeah, hook it up to a phone that will recognize it.
[07:04] <Zoem> Daisuke_Ido: you are saying that there is no way to get it to work?
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Zoem, just because it's bluetooth doesn't mean it's magically going to work with *anything* that supports bluetooth
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm saying i don't know for sure one way or the other
[07:04] <Zoem> Daisuke_Ido: I got it connected
[07:04] <VoidedCheck> bluetooth is about as good as 802.11
[07:04] <VoidedCheck> which is not very
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> but if you can't use a bluetooth mouse with a phone (and it will connect, but it will be useless)
[07:04] <Zoem> hmmm
[07:04] <Zoem> this is awesome
[07:05] <Schypher_> does ubuntu ave backtrack packages ?
[07:05] <kevcox_> Zero, sorry I got kicked off again but this will help you if you did not already get help:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[07:05] <VoidedCheck> what are backtrack packages?
[07:05] <zero> thanks kevcox_
[07:05] <arvind_khadri> Schypher_: you mean backport
[07:05] <kevcox_> np
[07:05] <godjr> im trying to edit my grub but it keeps saying i dont have permission to edit it
[07:05] <godjr> keeps saying im not the owner
[07:06] <Schypher_> arvind_khadri: well all the tools available on backtrack distro
[07:06] <zero> kevcox_, will this install the server edition?
[07:06] <kevcox_> Yes
[07:06] <zero> kevcox, thanks
[07:06] <zero> kevcox_, thanks
[07:06] <Optimus55> hey does anyone know if the hard drive bug in ubuntu has been resolved?
[07:06] <kevcox_> np
[07:06]  * Daisuke_Ido headdesks
[07:06] <arvind_khadri> godjr: be root
[07:06] <zvacet> godjr     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <Zoem> does anyone know how to make a usb headset work?
[07:06] <godjr> thanks
[07:06] <tag> So how do I reconfigure paste so it's not Button3, but Button4 instead? :-)
[07:06] <Schypher_> arvind_khadri: I love ubuntu, but I don't want to move to backtrack just because they have all the network security tools
[07:06] <Starnestommy> godjr: no, use sudo
[07:06] <VoidedCheck> gksudo /boot/grub/menu.1st
[07:06] <VoidedCheck> damn too late
[07:07] <tag> this new mouse I have, when I scroll up it randomly sends a middle click sometimes...this is totally driving me mad
[07:07] <VoidedCheck> and I missed gedit
[07:07] <arvind_khadri> schypher i dont have any idea what you are talking about
[07:07] <VoidedCheck> btw does anyone know why gksudo is supposed to be better for gui progs than sudo?
[07:07] <zero> kevcox_, hey, this wants me to reboot into a liveCD and install it that way, the server ISO has no livecd
[07:07] <zero> im already in Ubuntu 7.10 right now,k will that work kevcox_ ?
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> arvind_khadri, apparently he didn't either
[07:08] <Exteris> !gksu | VoidedCheck
[07:08] <ubotu> VoidedCheck: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> probably a distro that installs wireshark by default
[07:08] <arvind_khadri> Daisuke_Ido: :)
[07:08] <VoidedCheck> that really has no answers
[07:08] <MDFrostT> please help:  using ubuntu 8.04 on a dell inspiron e1705.  wireless shows available networks, but I can't connect to any of them (whether they be b or g, open or protected, WEP or WPA or WPA2).  I found a few references in the forums, but nothing of use.  Anyone have any ideas?
[07:08] <metalmosesjd> Hello everyone. Just wondering if anyone knew of any software compatible with Windows Mobile phone?
[07:09] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | MDFrostT
[07:09] <ubotu> MDFrostT: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:09] <kevcox_> You'll need the LiveCD but you can use it just don't load the X Client
[07:09] <zvacet> VoidedCheck :You should never use sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo to run such programs (eg. ALT+F2 gksudo gedit).
[07:09] <VoidedCheck> why?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> VoidedCheck, it has answers - using sudo for gui apps can cause issues with permissions later on
[07:10] <billu> You wanna make a money easy?! Register here and EARN!  http://bux.to/?r=michal_bielecki
[07:10] <VoidedCheck> it gives one example, and doesn't properly explain that one
[07:10] <zvacet> VoidedCheck :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:10] <MelbourneBloke> I like money
[07:10] <dmsuperman> Suck one, the time machine costs like 20 billion
[07:10] <Starnestommy> VoidedCheck: gksudo uses the user's settings but the root account.  sudo usually uses root's settings and account
[07:10] <Dr_willis> MelbourneBloke,  im to lazy for just 'easy' i want free money. :)
[07:10] <VoidedCheck> huh?
[07:11] <VoidedCheck> oh
[07:11] <kevcox_> I'm a bout to ge kicked off again due to my network issue that kicks me off every 10 minutes.  Anyone have a suggestion for researching this issue?
[07:11] <VoidedCheck> interesting
[07:11] <ripdisk> help, ubuntu won't apt-get from the net, it just asks for the cd
[07:12] <kevcox_> modify your sources.conf file under apt
[07:12] <kevcox_> ripdisk
[07:12] <Tronic_> ripdisk: You can do that with the graphical tool, too.
[07:12] <Optimus55> hey does anyone have an idea if the hard disk high cycle bug has been fixed in the new release?
[07:12] <MelbourneBloke> Kevcox: What other devices do you have on your network?
[07:12] <ripdisk> tronic, where's the graphical tool
[07:12] <VoidedCheck> zvacet, that last link you posted didn't even mention gksudo
[07:12] <zvacet> ripdisk system>admin>software sources check /uncheck CD
[07:13] <zvacet> VoidedCheck You didn´t read it all
[07:13] <kevcox_> Sorry, got kicked off again...
[07:13] <ripdisk> oh ok
[07:13] <ripdisk> cool
[07:13] <ripdisk> thanks
[07:13] <VoidedCheck> oh it did once
[07:13] <VoidedCheck> and it didn't say why
[07:13] <MelbourneBloke> Kevox: what other devices do you have on your network?
[07:14] <zvacet> VoidedCheck I´m awre of that
[07:14] <kevcox_> One laptop (the one I'm on), Server (LAMP w/firewall and DHCP)
[07:14] <kevcox_> And one Ubuntu Desktop
[07:14] <MelbourneBloke> does the server also lose its connection every ten minutes?
[07:15] <kevcox_> Good question....I'll run back and kick off a continuous ping and see what happens
[07:15] <kevcox_> I was looking for a log file to see what might be happeing.
[07:16] <MelbourneBloke> Kevox: ok thats a good idea ... something else you may want to try is plugging  your laptop directly into your router
[07:16] <MelbourneBloke> that way you can tell if its something within the network or if it is your ethernet adaptor giving you problems
[07:17] <VoidedCheck> router != modem
[07:17] <kevcox_> Okay, I'm using Shorewall with two NICS in the server so i assume a crossover cable is needed for this.
[07:17] <kevcox_> That was a question... :)
[07:17] <MelbourneBloke> depends if your NICs are auto negotiate
[07:17] <tanner> i dont suppose anyone's attempted to use Ekiga with Cisco Call Manager?
[07:18] <kevcox_> Okay, the server loosing connection will tell me a lot so I'll start there.
[07:18] <zero> hey im trying to install ubuntu 710 server to my flash drive, but i get this error when trying to copy from CD to flash drive
[07:18] <zero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63797/
[07:18] <kevcox_> Did you mount the flash drive?
[07:18] <zoexii> hello, I have started using fluxbox to conserve limited system resources, but would like to be able to have multiple sessions running at once (this is done with switch user in gnome) is there a way to start a new X session from the command line?
[07:19] <zero> kevcox_, its mounted
[07:19] <VoidedCheck> startx terminal
[07:19] <zero> kevcox_, its not seeing the stuff in my drive
[07:19] <kevcox_> Did you create the proper partitions with file system?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> zero,  the 'pendrivelinux' web site has a lot of tutorials on doing that sort of thing.    They may have a guide for you to follow
[07:19] <VoidedCheck> terminal being the terminal you want it to start on
[07:20] <zero> thanks Dr_willis
[07:20] <zoexii> VoidedCheck: ok, so, just a number? 1-12, like the function keys that I would use to switch with?
[07:20] <zero> thanks kevcox_ , my bad i suck
[07:20] <kevcox_> brb, I'm about to get kicked off again so I have to check my server to see what it is doing....
[07:20] <VoidedCheck> not quite
[07:20] <VoidedCheck> I forgot the details being a long time since I ran more than one x, but it's all in the docs
[07:21] <VoidedCheck> or google for "multiple x" or smth
[07:21] <zoexii> VoidedCheck: cool, am reading manpage now. thanks.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm xinit :2     or somtning like that i recall..
[07:21] <Dr_willis> I forget how also. :)
[07:21] <VoidedCheck> yeah I remember smth with a colon
[07:22] <VoidedCheck> not too helpful I know, sorry
[07:22] <Dr_willis> sudo xinit -- :2
[07:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:22] <Dr_willis> but that ran it as root... doh
[07:22] <Dr_willis> note the 2 dashes..
[07:23] <Dr_willis> (in case your font shows them as 1 long dash, its actually 2 dashes)
[07:23] <gogeta> Dr_willis ?
[07:23] <VoidedCheck> that would be one crappy font
[07:23] <Dr_willis> VoidedCheck,  seen it be an 'issue' befor.
[07:24] <fairyeneried> there's an alternative to ubuntu-desktop? i need to setup gnome and the basic onfiguration programs, but i don't need gimp or openoffice
[07:24] <VoidedCheck> uninstall them?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  fire up the package manager and install what you want.
[07:25] <VoidedCheck> install server ubuntu and install only what you want from that through apt?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> fairyeneried,  thats why we suggested xubuntu-desktop earlier. :) a smaller 'desktop' with  most of the extra programs you may want
[07:25] <VoidedCheck> install slackware?  lol jk
[07:26] <fairyeneried> slackware?
[07:26] <fairyeneried> no no
[07:26] <fairyeneried> ubuntu
[07:26] <vova_kubba> hi all ;)
[07:26] <VoidedCheck> hullo
[07:26] <chris062689> Has anyone tested Ubuntu 8.04 RC on the EeePC?
[07:26] <simion314> hi, what it means if i get this error when i ake apt-get update W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[07:27] <VoidedCheck> my buddy did
[07:27] <VoidedCheck> he barely got it working
[07:27] <chris062689> !eeepc
[07:27] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[07:27] <VoidedCheck> he has the Surf
[07:27] <VoidedCheck> 2GB hd
[07:27] <Odd-rationale> simion314: try running "sudo apt-get update" and try again.
[07:27] <VoidedCheck> it runs, but not well
[07:28] <Lempface> anyone use IDLE for ubuntu?
[07:28] <VoidedCheck> the Xandros OS is actually pretty nice
[07:28] <MelbourneBloke> Faireneried .. try and use sudo apt-get remove gimp
[07:28] <VoidedCheck> once you cut the kiddy interface
[07:28] <zvacet> simion314 or in system>admin>software sources put to main server
[07:30] <narg> does anyone know how to find the specific processor type (ie athlon64) of a machine (more than just arch.) from within linux?
[07:31] <MelbourneBloke> dmesg
[07:31] <chronographer> Hello all. I still have an issue with my new 226bw samsung with nvidia drivers. The issue is that there is an intermittened 'flash' where the screen drops to black and pops back up witha mesage from the monitor saying 'warning, non optimum settings, settings should be 1680x1050 60 hz' which is waht I have got it set to. I have discovered one interesting line in my Xorg.0.log " see here for output. http://pastebin.com/m33daa899
[07:31] <vova_kubba> where is situated relolv.conf?
[07:31] <chronographer> If I use the 'nv' driver it runs beautifully.
[07:32] <VoidedCheck> you might want to expand your cli buffer before running dmesg
[07:32] <chronographer> nvidia driver is OK but blinks, drops out or whatever every now and then
[07:32] <SnakeyeS> question about dual-booting on a dell with XP
[07:32] <zvacet> vova_kubba /etc/resolv.conf
[07:32] <vova_kubba> thanks
[07:32] <dazfuller> narg: try "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[07:32] <MelbourneBloke> Narg:: or you can try more /proc/cpuinfo
[07:33] <VoidedCheck> more is less  :)
[07:33] <narg> ah, exactly what I wanted. Thanks.
[07:33] <bouma> is the closed nvidia driver barred in 8.04beta ?
[07:33] <narg> but most beats them both ;)
[07:33] <SnakeyeS> By dual-booting, would nothing from Windows be used when Ubuntu is running, thus having the advantage of using an OS that requires far less resources (memory/cpu) than Windows XP?  I would obviously be sacrificing the hard drive space used by Windows but, since this laptop will be used primarily for surfing, the need for disk space is not a concern (I'll still have several gigs remaining).  Am I missing any considerations?
[07:33] <VoidedCheck> but none trumps them all
[07:34] <chronographer> thats right snakeyes
[07:34] <P1ro> hi!
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> so nothing from windows is used?
[07:34] <chronographer> it is completely separate, apart from being on the same hard drive.
[07:34] <VoidedCheck> closed nvidia driver is available in 8.04 RC
[07:34] <chronographer> nope
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> ok
[07:34] <P1ro> how i can run a .run on ubuntu?
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> sweet!
[07:34] <VoidedCheck> and beta driver is available with Envy
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> This dell doesn't have an internal floppy or cdrom
[07:34] <chronographer> lookup up wine P1ro
[07:34] <chronographer> maybe .run works
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> I've read there are ways to install but it looks painful
[07:34] <chronographer> or you can go command line on it if its for linux
[07:34] <SnakeyeS> lol
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> chronographer, look up your answers before giving them to people.
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> P1ro: ./*.run
[07:35] <bouma> VoidCheck, ok wierd, probably someone already caught this, if im not tripping, could be a bug, better check the bugzilla
[07:35] <chronographer> Ubuntu is easy!
[07:35] <P1ro> i have downloaded the quake3point-release and it en a .run file
[07:35] <nxusr> hey, how would you writed shell command to rename all files in a directory with digit in the file name to  ...
[07:35] <chronographer> get the cd, get hardy heron CD and put it in your comp, restart. you are away!
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> a .run is almost always an executable script (plus a binary of some sort)
[07:35] <SnakeyeS> one other question...
[07:35] <Gnea> SnakeyeS: if it's still under warranty, you might want to be careful, since the windows backup should be on its own partition (you know, the one that restores the entire windows OS in a few seconds?)
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> P1ro, you might also want to take a look at the open alternatives (openarena, for one)
[07:35] <nxusr>  hey, how would you write shell command to rename all files in a directory with digit in the file names to  ...?
[07:36] <SnakeyeS> not under warranty
[07:36] <SnakeyeS> it's old
[07:36] <dude_> i need help!
[07:36] <Gnea> ah ok
[07:36] <Gnea> !ask | dude_
[07:36] <ubotu> dude_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:36] <timfrost> ﻿vova_kubba: try /etc/resolv.conf
[07:36] <SnakeyeS> I want the simplest linux experience with the least amount of resources used...is xubuntu a good option?
[07:37] <VoidedCheck> simplest?
[07:37] <SnakeyeS> low resource usage is a neccesity
[07:37] <dude_> I installed ubuntu on my HD, partitioned it in half, then I just installed XP on the other half.  I was expecting to see the dual boot screen but nothing comes up, it goes straight to XP.  Can someone please help me?
[07:37] <SnakeyeS> most windows-like, sorry to say
[07:37] <zvacet> SnakeyeS yes
[07:37] <Gnea> SnakeyeS: you may want to consider fluxbuntu
[07:37] <VoidedCheck> you installed xp last?
[07:37] <SnakeyeS> ok
[07:37] <VoidedCheck> that's the problem
[07:37] <dude_> voidedcheck, that's correct
[07:37] <dude_> :(
[07:37] <VoidedCheck> xp overwrote the mbr
[07:37] <Gnea> dude_: oh, you installed XP second, not first
[07:37] <troseph> In Ubuntu 8.04, I can't authenticate to change the configuration of network-admin
[07:37] <shiznit> you will have to edit the bootloader if you installed XP after ubuntu
[07:37] <bullgard4> What kind of files have the filename extension '.schemas'? Example: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-dictionary.schemas
[07:37] <dude_> gnea, yes I installed it second
[07:37] <os2mac_> yes yes it did
[07:38] <Gnea> !dualboot | dude_
[07:38] <ubotu> dude_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:38] <nxusr> how would you write shell command to rename all files in a directory with digit in the file names to  ...?
[07:38] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | troseph
[07:38] <ubotu> troseph: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:38] <SnakeyeS> Are they any major differences between Fluxbuntu and Xubuntu?
[07:38] <dude_> do I have to edit a file to get my ubuntu back?
[07:38] <VoidedCheck> fluxbuntu is outdated
[07:38] <Gnea> dude_: windows is a hog like that - it will always takeover the MBR no matter what when you install
[07:38] <rewati> hi there i am tryin to ssh to my frnds computer in a same room under same router but it say connection refused
[07:38] <Dr_willis> nxusr,  check out the 'renameutils' package it has some tools that can help. Or you could learn some perl coding.
[07:39] <rewati> can anybudy help
[07:39] <troseph> !thanks | Odd-rationale
[07:39] <ubotu> Odd-rationale: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:39] <rewati> me
[07:39] <dude_> gnea, I looked at the disk manager and it looks like it's still there
[07:39] <VoidedCheck> and never fixed suxh simple things as automounting partitions
[07:39] <SnakeyeS> VoidedCheck: do you recommend xubuntu?
[07:39] <troseph> lol
[07:39] <troseph> dumb
[07:39] <Odd-rationale> lol
[07:39] <simion314> Hi, i used an application launcher(one like katapult or launchy) but i do not remember it's name
[07:39] <dude_> so I didn't overwrite it thatnk god
[07:39] <Gnea> dude_: no, you can boot the livecd and recover it that way - when it's done, you should be able to dual-boot with ease
[07:39] <VoidedCheck> SnakeyeS, over fluxbuntu, yes
[07:39] <nxusr> Dr_willis, learn perl coding?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> nxusr,  renameutils - Programs to make file renaming easier
[07:39] <SnakeyeS> thanks
[07:39] <n6rej> anyone have any experience with flyspray?
[07:39] <Gnea> dude_: right, the MBR controls how the system has access to boot
[07:39] <rewati> hi there i am tryin to ssh to my frnds computer in a same room under same router but it say connection refused can any budy help i need it its urgent
[07:40] <Dr_willis> nxusr,  depends on the deatils. I tend to use 'qmv' in that package for my megarenaming needs. Theres some other 'bulk' renamer tools out also.
[07:40] <MelbourneBloke> rewati: is sshd installed on your friends computer?
[07:40] <dude_> gnea, do I have to do anything when I install the live cd or will ubuntu automatically detect that it's there?
[07:40] <zvacet> dude_ :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[07:40] <timfrost> rewati: has the friend installed ssh server?  You won't be able to ssh to the computer until that is installed
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> n6rej, not really, but i have used fleapowder.  close?
[07:40] <n6rej> Daisuke_Ido: lol probably not lol
[07:40] <Odd-rationale> rewati: does your friends computer have the openssh-server on it?
[07:40] <joe1> anyone know if there is a quick fix to get the lightning calendar add on to work with the repo thunderbird?
[07:41] <SnakeyeS> Thanks for the insight guys!
[07:41] <tiocsti> install the lightning from the repo?
[07:41] <VoidedCheck> may the ubuntu be with you
[07:41] <sutabi> Anyone here use mac? trying to see if I can install linux w/o bootcamp :\
[07:41] <SnakeyeS> lol
[07:41] <SnakeyeS> thx
[07:41] <Gnea> dude_: here, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:41] <Dr_willis> !info mrename | nxusr
[07:41] <ubotu> nxusr: mrename (source: mrename): A tool for easy and automatic renaming of many files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-11ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:41] <tiocsti> sutabi, you need bootcamp afaik
[07:41] <MelbourneBloke> I use a mac .. and yes you can install linux without bootcamp
[07:41] <shiznit> can I use grub to bypass the vista bootloader?
[07:41] <tiocsti> oh, you can
[07:42] <Dr_willis> nxusr,  mrename sounds like what you want
[07:42] <Gnea> dude_: the exact procedure you need to make it work is there, good luck
[07:42] <VoidedCheck> gah I heard nightmares about bootcamp
[07:42] <nxusr> ok will look into it
[07:42] <Dr_willis> nxusr,  simple way to rename multiple files with a customizable
[07:42] <Dr_willis> prefix and a progressive number.
[07:42] <dude_> gnea, thank you so much!
[07:42] <VoidedCheck> drill sergeant spits in your face
[07:42] <sutabi> MelbourneBloke: have any links that would explain it? None of my discs boot at startup. and running VMWare is just painfully slow
[07:43] <zvacet> sutabi can you add more ram to VM
[07:43] <VoidedCheck> sutabi, what architecture?
[07:43] <sutabi> VoidedCheck: intel duo 1.66ghz 1gig ram
[07:44] <VoidedCheck> I take it you know BIOS?
[07:44] <simion314> is gnash working for anyone on youtube? i get a black video for 1 second after it finishes
[07:44] <VoidedCheck> and you can't boot install cds?
[07:44] <bullgard4> What kind of files have the filename extension '.schemas'? Example: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-dictionary.schemas
[07:45] <MelbourneBloke> Sutabi: hold down the option key to select a disc to boot from
[07:45] <sutabi> VoidedCheck: on a PC I nkow how to access it and change boot useage so it can boot a cd
[07:45] <sutabi> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:45] <sutabi> >.>
[07:45] <VoidedCheck> lol
[07:45] <sutabi> foook I wish I knew that sooner ~_~
[07:45] <Dr_willis> Hidden mac Secrets
[07:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:46] <MelbourneBloke> Sutabi or if you want to boot a cd hold down the 'c' key at boot time
[07:46] <__mikem> There are hidden mac secrets?
[07:46] <__mikem> Where
[07:46] <joe1> why was my internet on interface eth1 before with wireless but now it is wlan0?
[07:46] <VoidedCheck> all over the place
[07:46] <Dr_willis> __mikem,  Its on a need to know basis..
[07:46] <sutabi> ok well thank you alll :) i'll be back on ubuntu hopefully
[07:46] <Dr_willis> How to make them boot from a cd - is one of them.
[07:46] <VoidedCheck> because you switched from a nic to a wireless?
[07:46] <joe1> nope wireless the whole time
[07:46] <VoidedCheck> wow
[07:46] <joe1> (upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy)
[07:46] <VoidedCheck> kewl
[07:47] <MelbourneBloke> Sutabi: Something else that you may find interesting http://refit.sourceforge.net/
[07:47] <joe1> it's actually screwed some stuff up though :( like I can't ushare right now
[07:47] <Myxb> how do i prevent network interfaces from going up on boot-up/resume?
[07:48] <VoidedCheck> disable network?
[07:48] <VoidedCheck> dunno exactly what you want
[07:48] <Myxb> VoidedCheck: yes. no eth0 etc on resume. they should be brought up only when needed
[07:49] <lartza_> Someone please help me. I'm having some serious trouble with my internet connection on this pc. It's incredibly slow or it can't connect. It took more than a minute to get to www.speedtest.net. Is there any program where I can see which programs on my PC use internet connection like top shows cpu and memory usage?
[07:49] <VoidedCheck> like top?
[07:50] <joe1> lartza: there are a couple web based programs that do network monitoring
[07:50] <MelbourneBloke> Mysb: you could try and remove /etc/init.d/networking and the use ifup eth0 when requited
[07:50] <lartza_> top is a program in linux
[07:50] <MelbourneBloke> *required
[07:50] <VoidedCheck> yeah
[07:50] <tiocsti> get ntop
[07:50] <lartza_> tiocsti: Ok
[07:50] <zero> Hey ive been trying to install linux on my pen drive using the guide on pendrivelinux.com, and when i boot up with my USB Flash drive, i get an error saying VMLINUX when i try to select anything, any ideas?
[07:51] <VoidedCheck> doesn't pendrivelinus.com have like a dozen or more guides?
[07:51] <zero> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[07:51] <zero> VoidedCheck, this is the guide i was refferred to by someone in here
[07:51] <lartza_> I just runned network speedtest and I hve got previously donwload speed of 468 and now it shows 341 when only xchat was running. Ping to my country server to 300km away is 234ms!
[07:52] <zero> VoidedCheck, should i just reformat and start over?
[07:52] <VoidedCheck> distance means squat online
[07:52] <lartza_> I'm redoing since I use dnsmasq
[07:52] <simion314> If you do not know there is an equivalent for katapult or launchy for gnome http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/12/gnome-do-universal-launcher-for-gnome.html
[07:52] <lartza_> still 200ping, but it might be the server
[07:53] <VoidedCheck> zero, that's how I learned every os install to date, but flash drives tend to have problems with many straight fromats
[07:53] <VoidedCheck> *formats
[07:53] <Myxb> MelbourneBloke: dosn't work. after resume all interfaces are up and running again
[07:54] <VoidedCheck> lots of flash drives just die on format, that's why many try to just delete the data on the partition and copy instead of formatting
[07:54] <MelbourneBloke> myxb: do a ifdown eth0
[07:54] <zero> VoidedCheck, yeah, but now my Flash Drive is partitioned, and i need to reformat to get it goin again
[07:55] <MelbourneBloke> myxb: then do a sleep and resume
[07:55] <zero> nevermind, i got it
[07:55] <lartza_> ntop
[07:55] <lartza_> woops
[07:56] <VoidedCheck> whee
[07:56] <hatchetman82> hello
[07:56] <VoidedCheck> wrong cli  :P
[07:56] <lartza_> what does ntop do?
[07:56] <hatchetman82> anyone tried installing the aircrack-ng rtl8187 driver on 8.04 yet ?
[07:56] <VoidedCheck> I'd assume like top, but for your network
[07:56] <tiocsti> its like a network ver of top, shows hosts you connect to, and how much bandwidth they are using
[07:56] <gh_> quick question, i just reinstalled ubuntu, i cant remember how to enable it to use tar.gz files, how do i do that
[07:57] <lartza_> not on me :(
[07:57] <VoidedCheck> double click?
[07:57] <MelbourneBloke> lartza: have you proved your internet connection? If you are still experiencing hi latency times report a problem to you ISP
[07:57] <lartza_> proved internet?
[07:57] <VoidedCheck> right-click extract here?
[07:57] <tiocsti> gh: tar -zxf filename.tar.gz? im not sure what you mean by enable the use of them
[07:57] <lartza_> THese problems started yesterday
[07:57] <lartza_> !paste
[07:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[07:58] <MelbourneBloke> proved.. as in tested with a direct connection
[07:58] <VoidedCheck> tested with a direct connection?
[07:58] <VoidedCheck> what, downloading?
[07:58] <gh_> i cant extract them or install them, and its not letting me open it with the terminal, its like its not recognizing tar.gz or .rpm files
[07:58] <VoidedCheck> how would you install a tar.gz?
[07:59] <arvind_khadri> gh_: you need .deb to install
[07:59] <MelbourneBloke> OK .. directly connecting your PC to the modem/router
[07:59] <lartza_> I don't understand :( I have used this same internet like three months in this CPU and maybe 4 years it has been on this house.
[07:59] <lartza_> oh
[07:59] <lartza_> like... how? :P
[07:59] <VoidedCheck> tarballs are just archives
[07:59] <lartza_> I'm n00b
[07:59] <MelbourneBloke> have you tried power cycling the modem/router?
[07:59] <VoidedCheck> rpms need a transition prog like alien
[07:59] <lartza_> ...
[07:59] <arvind_khadri> gh_: you can compile from a source i.e .tar
[08:00] <lartza_> how? i don't know if I have
[08:00] <MelbourneBloke> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[08:00] <VoidedCheck> why do you need to install from .tar.gz or .rpm?
[08:00] <lartza_> THis comp is connected with a powerline adaptor btw
[08:00] <lartza_> oh
[08:00] <lartza_> But other PC's internet work fine
[08:00] <gh_> cause the nspluginwrapper for ubuntu 64 isint working, thats what im trying to do right now
[08:00] <VoidedCheck> is there not a repository option or a deb?
[08:00] <MelbourneBloke> OK .. have you tried turning the power line adapters on and off again?
[08:01] <VoidedCheck> works fine for me
[08:01] <VoidedCheck> from the repositories
[08:01] <lartza_> Last night I took off mine
[08:01] <lartza_> Haven't powered of the one that's connected to router
[08:01] <lartza_> Should I turn off whole internet system?
[08:01] <kubist> hi there! could you help me please with my screen&resolution problem?
[08:01] <lartza_> I think problem is just in this PC of three of mine
[08:01] <arvind_khadri> kubist: what problem
[08:02] <MelbourneBloke> Lartza: that means that the internet connection is working ok. I would be looking at the power line adaptors, they are known to be unreliable.
[08:02] <VoidedCheck> power line adaptors...  wow
[08:02] <lartza_> And btw ntop won't start
[08:02] <kubist> arvind_khadri: cannot set correct resolution, tried reconfigure xserver, did not help
[08:02] <lartza_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63798/
[08:02] <hatchetman82> .... so no aircrack-ng users here ?
[08:03] <zero> Nigra?
[08:03] <MelbourneBloke> lartza: you are using ubuntu?
[08:03] <lartza_> Yes in this cpu
[08:03] <MelbourneBloke> lartza: have you made any changes of late?
[08:03] <kubist> arvind_khadri: i have i965 video card, 1280x800 lcd screen and the highest resolution i get is 1024x768 - but i have modelines for 1280x800...
[08:03] <genericguy> bear
[08:03] <lartza_> Umm...
[08:03] <lartza_> I'll checm by terminal history
[08:03] <arvind_khadri> kubist: resolution is set in the restart gdm once
[08:03] <zero> hey anyone know if you can install the repos from ubuntu ultimate in your current 7.10 system?
[08:03] <Myxb> MelbourneBloke: dosn't work.i down everything except lo, and on resume eth0, ath0, wifi0, lo are up again.
[08:03] <unique> i have a few questions in regards to sound drivers i have a creative xfi card... i tried to install the oss drivers resulting in the system saying no supported drivers found.. is there any way i can restore the system back to normal without doing a complete reinstall of the os...?
[08:04] <arvind_khadri> kubist: oops i meant just restart gdm
[08:04] <lartza_> I installed enemy territory
[08:04] <lartza_> and upx-ucl
[08:04] <kubist> tried that, no luck
[08:04] <genericguy> hey, has anyone found that evolution-rss plugin makes evolution crash after upgrading to hardy heron rc?
[08:04] <zvacet> zero add them to your source list will be one option,
[08:05] <lartza_> Modified xorg.conf since et crashed(didn't work but havent took it off)
[08:05] <zero> zvacet, would that harm my OS?
[08:05] <MelbourneBloke> larta: I would be surprised if ubuntu is the cause of your problems. I would be have a serious look at the power adaptors ... get a laptop and plug it into your end and see if you have the same result.
[08:05] <lartza_> Load "extmod" to Section "Module"
[08:05] <zvacet> zero I don´´t know
[08:05] <VoidedCheck> zero, ust adding a repository does nothing
[08:05] <VoidedCheck> *just
[08:05] <zero> k, thx
[08:05] <arvind_khadri> kubist: ok so are your drivers installed
[08:05] <VoidedCheck> it's only when you install from that repository that you open yourself
[08:05] <lartza_> I installed chromium, fluxbox and openbox
[08:06] <lartza_> ipdated wine
[08:06] <zero> VoidedCheck, yeah, i understand that much, so basically, you dont know?
[08:06] <lartza_> installed and uninstalled googleearth with offical .bin
[08:06] <VoidedCheck> no more than anyone about anything
[08:06] <arvind_khadri> kubist: did you check the screen resolution  option in System->Preferences
[08:06] <lartza_> Then they start to be from time that it still worked
[08:06] <lartza_> Earlier this week
[08:06] <kubist> arvind_khadri: yes, i have been through all the basics
[08:07] <VoidedCheck> even official ubuntu repositories can still fubar your system
[08:07] <VoidedCheck> it's happened before
[08:07] <arvind_khadri> kubist: hmm xserver-xorg reconfigured??
[08:07] <lartza_> Why isn't ntop working? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63798/
[08:07] <zvacet> zero Ultimate is unofficial so I don´t know what to expect
[08:07] <zero> VoidedCheck, really?
[08:07] <kubist> arvind_khadri: yes
[08:07] <zero> zvacet, k thx dude
[08:07] <VoidedCheck> I'd expect the same thing as installing some codec pack or smth in windows
[08:08] <VoidedCheck> conflicts and instability
[08:08] <arvind_khadri> kubist: do you get the resolution options in xorg.conf
[08:08] <kubist> arvind_khadri: yes i do
[08:08] <VoidedCheck> like ubuntu-extras or whatever it is
[08:08] <gh_> ok, i got it, i feel extremely retarded, and have to learn to read.....
[08:08] <arvind_khadri> kubist: hmm restarted X??
[08:08] <kubist> arvind_khadri: i think it could be some problem with my screen...
[08:08] <kubist> arvind_khadri: yes i did
[08:09] <dude_> i installed windows AFTER ubuntu on my hard drive, and now it messed up the MBR.  It wont display ubuntu as a bootable option.  Can someone please help?  I was given these instructions but I have trouble following them because It didn't work the first time I tried it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong, currently I'm using ubuntu live cd, can someone please 
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> kubist: purge X ... maybe that should help
[08:09] <WaSrD> I appear to move at the speed of stupidity myself gh, you're not alone
[08:09] <kubist> arvind_khadri: did not...
[08:09] <zero> VoidedCheck, k thx for the insight, maybe ill just try before i do a fresh install of 8.04
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> kubist: purge it and see
[08:09] <VoidedCheck> I know there's a way to use the livecd to install grub to your mbr but I forgot the details
[08:09] <jeffimperial> Some help, pls. Deluge won't launch until after I try three times. I'm on an Ubuntu-Gnome machine.
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> dude_: boot into the live cd
[08:10] <dude_> arind_khadri, I currently am using the live cd ;)
[08:10] <monkeybritches> dude_: What do you mean by messed up the MBR?
[08:10] <VoidedCheck> zero, upgrades just suck, there's plenty of cruft and bloat
[08:10] <VoidedCheck> fresh installs are pretty and clean
[08:10] <VoidedCheck> just backup first
[08:10] <zero> VoidedCheck, thats been my experience as well, there isnt anythingon this machine that isnt backed up anyway
[08:10] <dude_> monkeybritches, well, XP hogged it and now it won't show ubuntu as a bootable option.  It's already in there as a partition, but it wont show it as a bootable option.
[08:11] <arvind_khadri> dude_: sudo grub
[08:11] <rkvirani> hey all
[08:11] <zvacet> dude_ :did you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[08:11] <rkvirani> anyone got an hp 2133?
[08:11] <arvind_khadri> dude_: do sudo grub
[08:11] <monkeybritches> Does it boot into Windows like usual?
[08:11] <dude_> i tried this but I think I did it wrong
[08:11] <dude_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:11] <kubist> arvind_khadri: as i installed the system the monitor detected and set by default was plug and play... after changing it to generic 1280x800 lcd i was offered the option to set the resolution to 1280x800, after restart the highest option is 1024x768... could it be that my problem is display related?
[08:11] <VoidedCheck> I hate windows attempt to take over your boot loading options
[08:11] <zero> k gotta go VoidedCheck
[08:11] <zero> late
[08:12] <rkvirani> windows bah
[08:12] <VoidedCheck> bye zero
[08:12] <zvacet> dude_ try again then
[08:12] <dude_> voidedcheck, I KNOW!  It sucks
[08:12] <arvind_khadri> dude_: after sudo grub do this find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:12] <rkvirani> so glad I can now use suspend in ubuntu
[08:12] <rkvirani> windows vista is gone off the laptop
[08:12] <VoidedCheck> but windows only does it if you let it  :P
[08:12] <dude_> arvind_khandri, the command returns hd0,0
[08:13] <arvind_khadri> dude_: ok now do root (hd0,0)
[08:13] <VoidedCheck> great thing about livecd is you boot it, find your tech problem (in this case grub), and just go from there
[08:13] <VoidedCheck> as long as livecd gives you inet
[08:13] <arvind_khadri> kubist: i think some issue with xserver
[08:13] <rewati> hey any one here can tell me hot to get the voice based time update system as it is in mac
[08:13] <arvind_khadri> kubist: or the drivers
[08:13] <dude_> arvind_khandri, ok I did that last time but I'll try again
[08:13] <monkeybritches> dude_: Look on this page for info about dual-booting http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[08:13] <arvind_khadri> dude_: then setup (hd0)
[08:13] <VoidedCheck> and for future reference, install windows first and then linux
[08:13] <jeffimperial> Some help, pls. Deluge won't launch until after I try three times. I'm on an Ubuntu-Gnome machine.
[08:14] <dude_> arvind_khandri, it says "error 11: unrecognized device string"
[08:14] <kubist> arvind_khadri: can i post you somehow a picture of my desktop, might be worth to see, because actually i have 1280x800 resolution, only the windows are in 1024x768... cannot explain really good
[08:14] <rewati> hey my vsftp is givin me problem can anybudy tell how to fix it
[08:14] <arvind_khadri> kubist: use image hosting
[08:14] <dude_> was I supposed to do that in the grub prompt?
[08:15] <AnRkey> rewati, what is it doing wrong?
[08:15] <rkvirani> whats the package to allow me to open .rar files?
[08:15] <tiocsti> unrar
[08:15] <VoidedCheck> unrar
[08:15] <rewati> when ever i try to connect it it say begning ftp transaction
[08:15] <rewati> and stucks there
[08:16] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hmm what command did you use
[08:16] <monkeybritches> rkvirani: Ark can do it
[08:16] <rewati> Anrkey when ever i try to connect it it say begning ftp transaction and stucks there
[08:16] <rkvirani> Ark eh...
[08:16] <rkvirani> hrm.
[08:16] <VoidedCheck> not wo unrar
[08:16] <dude_> arvind_khandri, I typed setup hd0
[08:16] <AnRkey> rewati, rewati paiste it's logs to a paste bin for me
[08:16] <arvind_khadri> dude_: before that you need to do root (hd0,0)
[08:17] <jeffimperial> anyone got ideas as to why Deluge bittorrent client won't launch until you try it three times?
[08:17] <alessio_> ciao
[08:17] <rewati> anrkey where can i find its log
[08:17] <VoidedCheck> because you're impatient?
[08:17] <VoidedCheck> seriously, dunno
[08:17] <AnRkey> jeffimperial, open a constole and type deluge
[08:17] <kubist> arvind_khadri: http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fg4.jpg
[08:17] <alessio_> speak italian please
[08:17] <monkeybritches> jeffimperial: Only after the third time, each time?
[08:17] <AnRkey> jeffimperial, it will then output an error for you to work from if it does not start
[08:17] <zvacet> alessio_ why?
[08:18] <AnRkey> jeffimperial, console soz
[08:18] <alessio_> i'm italian
[08:18] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: yep.. both the launcher on my desktop and the one in the panel
[08:18] <monkeybritches> !it
[08:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:18] <VoidedCheck> good for you
[08:18] <VoidedCheck> I'm a mutt
[08:18] <AnRkey> rewati, gimme a sec to check
[08:18]  * kindofabuzz gives AnRkey
[08:18] <arvind_khadri> kubist: that seems to be KDE this is ubuntu please move to #kubuntu
[08:18] <dude_> arvind_khandri, under the partition editor my partition shows up as /dev/hda1 and hda2(swap), could i be typing in the wrong device under root (hd0,0) ?
[08:18] <kubist> have the same problem with ubuntu
[08:19] <arvind_khadri> dude_: its arvind_khadri
[08:19] <zvacet> alessio_ I´m not native Engish speaker too  try t ofind italian one
[08:19] <monkeybritches> jeffimperial: If you try to launch it from the console it may show you any errors that occur when attempting to execute
[08:19] <dude_> sorry
[08:19] <arvind_khadri> dude_: you need to type what find gave you
[08:19] <jeffimperial> AnRkey: hate to be a newbie, but where do I find the outputed error?
[08:19] <AnRkey> rewati, what client are you using
[08:19] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I did
[08:19] <sutabi> is there a way to eject the cd @ boot when it shows install options for ubuntu. I cant get my mac mini  to bootup anymore cause its booting the b\ubuntu cd and well even after I say boot hard drive it doesn't work
[08:19] <kubist> arvind_khadri: i tried to use ubuntu, i have now kubuntu installed to see if it goes the same - it does
[08:20] <rewati> anrkey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63799/
[08:20] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: thanks.. leme try that
[08:20] <dude_> arvind_khadri, It says hd0,0 so i type in root (hd0,0)
[08:20] <rewati> anrkey i think this is the log
[08:20] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hmm thats right
[08:20] <AnRkey> jeffimperial, if you run a graphic app from a terminal it normal outputs some of it's errors to the terminal
[08:20] <arvind_khadri> kubist: no idea google
[08:21] <kubist> thanks
[08:21] <AnRkey> rewati, what client are you using
[08:21] <dude_> when I push enter for that it doesn't echo anything, just brings me back to the grub prompt
[08:21] <rkvirani> hrm. time to get nvidia drivers
[08:21] <rewati> anrkey simple browser
[08:21] <rewati> firefox
[08:21] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches, AnRkey: I dont get an error, just
[08:22] <jeffimperial> oh wait.
[08:22] <arvind_khadri> dude_: what partitions??
[08:22] <jeffimperial> it says keyboard interrup
[08:22] <jeffimperial> *interrupt
[08:23] <dude_> arvind_khadri, there's 3 total partitions, two for linux (the regular one and the swap) and the windows partition
[08:23] <Riskbreaker> fellas, i have a problem with the gnome edition of ubuntu. I am running hardy but I dont believe it has anything to do with that so i'm writinga bout it in here. Ubuntu uses a LOT of power. my laptop got around 3,5-4 hours on minimum settings in KDE,
[08:23] <monkeybritches> Have you tried any other torrent clients?
[08:23] <arvind_khadri> dude_: on which partition do you have ubuntu??
[08:23] <Riskbreaker> and now it gets 2.5 hours max in gnome, regardless of CPU power, LCD brightness, etc.
[08:23] <unique> how do you change the dir to root in the term?
[08:23] <Riskbreaker> why is it sucking so much juice?
[08:23] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | Riskbreaker
[08:23] <ubotu> Riskbreaker: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:23] <Starnestommy> unique: cd /
[08:24] <VoidedCheck> transmission rocks btw
[08:24] <jeffimperial> omonkeybritches: just kTorrent. didn't have this problem, but it was darn slow to pick up on the files it was downloading so i went with Deluge
[08:24] <VoidedCheck> deluge pales in comparison
[08:24] <dude_> arvind_khadri, it's listed as /dev/hda1 (ext3 filesystem) and /dev/hda2 (linux swap) under the disk partition editor
[08:24] <VoidedCheck> the overhead is like nothing
[08:24] <jeffimperial> VoidedCheck: compared to...?
[08:25] <VoidedCheck> compared to deluge
[08:25] <VoidedCheck> duh
[08:25] <arvind_khadri> dude_: ok so root (hd0,0) has to work ...
[08:25] <jeffimperial> sorry, man.. which two clients were you comparing
[08:25] <VoidedCheck> transmission and deluge
[08:25] <jeffimperial> oh.. just that never heard of transmission 'til today.. doing a google..
[08:26] <bullgard4> What programming languages or programs evaluate the statement "font-size:1.8em;"?
[08:26] <dude_> arvind_khadri, you're absolutely right.  I'll try rebooting my system again to find out if it worked this time.
[08:26] <VoidedCheck> transmission is included in hardy atm
[08:26] <arvind_khadri> dude_: if it didnt you need to follow some more steps
[08:26] <Shpook> Hello everyone. How can I open a compressed file with an *.ace extension?
[08:27] <dude_> arvind_khadri, or is there a way to find out besides restarting the machine?
[08:27] <arvind_khadri> dude_:nope
[08:27] <dude_> ok
[08:27] <dude_> brb
[08:27] <rewati> anrkey r u there
[08:27] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hey jus a min
[08:27] <VoidedCheck> unace?
[08:27] <dude_> arvind_khadri, wait!  is there a command I'm supposed to use to make it save changes?
[08:27] <AnRkey> rewati, have you tried login in as a normal user?
[08:28] <VoidedCheck> sudo apt-get unace-nonfree
[08:28] <arvind_khadri> dude_: nope jus mount the root partition once
[08:28] <unique> ok so i type cd /root it says im in root but when i run m-a prepare it says im not in root cannot continue
[08:28] <Lectrick> what is the name of the ubuntu version that was kinda tailored for music recording purposes?
[08:28] <VoidedCheck> if you have the repositories enabled
[08:28] <Starnestommy> unique: type 'cd /'
[08:28] <AnRkey> rewati, I have just checked and the log file is /var/log/vsftp.log on ubuntu 7.10 server
[08:28] <mosno> Lectrick, Ubuntu Studio
[08:28] <dude_> arvind_khadri, how do I mount it?  just restarting the machine?
[08:28] <jeffimperial> anyone else in the room got recommendations for a bittorrent client?
[08:28] <Lectrick> thanks mosno i'll check it out
[08:29] <arvind_khadri> dude_: nope use sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[08:29] <dude_> ok
[08:29] <AnRkey> rewati, try using filezilla, it has  a log window that may give you more insight
[08:29] <VoidedCheck> mldonkey!  (KIDDING)
[08:29] <AnRkey> rewati, sudo apt-get install filezilla
[08:29] <arvind_khadri> dude_: then sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <unique> .
[08:29] <unique>   
[08:29] <dude_> arvind_khadri, ok looks like it's mounted
[08:30] <arvind_khadri> dude_: then sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:30] <Lectrick> jeffimperial check out azureus
[08:30] <VoidedCheck> don't
[08:30] <VoidedCheck> azureus sucks ass
[08:30] <jeffimperial> Voided: why not
[08:30] <Lectrick> what do you use then?
[08:30] <VoidedCheck> bloated piece of shit java crap
[08:30] <VoidedCheck> like I said twice, transmission
[08:31] <dude_> arvind_khadri, that last command brought up a blank page
[08:31] <jeffimperial> lectrick: m on deluge but got a prob with it
[08:31] <zvacet> jeffimperial try transmission
[08:31] <Boohbah> VoidedCheck: if you're into gtk...
[08:31] <arvind_khadri> dude_: did you do the mount properly
[08:31] <VoidedCheck> more so than java on linux
[08:31] <jussio1> !ohmy | VoidedCheck
[08:31] <ubotu> VoidedCheck: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:31] <AnRkey> jeffimperial, i think there is a switch for running deluge in debug mode
[08:31] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I sure did.  it brought up a window with my stuff (on that partition)
[08:32] <VoidedCheck> my family uses such language all the time
[08:32] <Boohbah> lol
[08:32] <dude_> I could even see my files
[08:32] <Lectrick> i run a laptop from 2001 and it works for me, but i could give deluge a try
[08:32] <VoidedCheck> it's called communication
[08:32] <jussi01> VoidedCheck: well its not acceptable in here, please dont use it.
[08:32] <arvind_khadri> dude_: ok so could you see something as boot??
[08:32] <VoidedCheck> cry me a river
[08:32] <Jordan_U> VoidedCheck, Well I guess your family isn't very friendly then :)
[08:32] <VoidedCheck> we're just not uptight
[08:32] <kaminix> How do I make Ubuntu load a specific driver on boot?
[08:32] <VoidedCheck> and we are all fans of George Carlin
[08:33] <dude_> arvind_khadri, is it ist or Lst? on the menu.(?st)
[08:33] <arvind_khadri> dude_: .lst l for love s for super t for time
[08:33] <Lectrick> everything I know about dirty words I learned from Carlin
[08:33] <arvind_khadri> Lectrick: !ot
[08:33] <dude_> ok
[08:33] <n6rej> anyone any good with cron?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> kaminix, Edit the Driver		"foo" line
[08:34] <arvind_khadri> !ot | Lectrick
[08:34] <dude_> arvind_khadri, yes I typed that in correctly.  Should I do the grub commands again?
[08:34] <ubotu> Lectrick: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:34] <jeffimperial> Voided: Transmission looks like a good choice..though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/204184 is kinda.. u know
[08:34] <arvind_khadri> dude_: so what you got
[08:34] <Jordan_U> kaminix, ... in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:34] <Jordan_U> kaminix, Sorry, misread, thought you said graphics driver
[08:35] <dude_> arvind_khadri, did you want me to list what's under /boot?
[08:35] <VoidedCheck> jeffimperial, on that I can only give my own anecdotal experience.  It's never given me a problem, and for linux, is one of the easiest GUI apps I've used for torents.
[08:35] <VoidedCheck> *torrents
[08:35] <phoenix24> how can I transition from 32bit ubuntu to a 64bit ubuntu ??
[08:35] <arvind_khadri> dude_: no i want you to edit the file menu.lst in /boot/grub/
[08:35] <zvacet> VoidedCheck +1
[08:35] <Lectrick> ot, gotcha. Ubuntu Studio looks like it might not be for me. Can anyone suggest a good app to record to file audio input from a mix board?
[08:35] <VoidedCheck> phoenix24, install from scratch
[08:36] <Jordan_U> kaminix, Add it to your /etc/modules
[08:36] <jeffimperial> Voided: yeah..seems like the bug happens only in certain situations
[08:36] <arvind_khadri> hey sorry cd into the /mnt dude_
[08:36] <phoenix24> VoidedCheck, would it be necessary to throw away all the installed 32bit apps ?
[08:36] <VoidedCheck> no
[08:36] <arvind_khadri> dude_: then do cd boot/grub/
[08:36] <VoidedCheck> all 32bit aps run on 64bit
[08:37] <sirjulio> how do i browse a windows share folder on my network?
[08:37] <phoenix24> VoidedCheck, Which all would be the necessary components ? - GCC / Kernel / glibc ?
[08:37] <jussio1> !samba | sirjulio
[08:37] <ubotu> sirjulio: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[08:37] <n6rej> Lectrick: look at www.ubuntustudio.org
[08:37] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I see it!
[08:37] <phoenix24> VoidedCheck, Which all would be the necessary components ? - 64bit GCC / 64bit Kernel / 64bit glibc ?
[08:37] <sirjulio> ubotu ty
[08:37] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:37] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I'm in the file now, I can edit it.  What am I looking for?
[08:37] <VoidedCheck> phoenix24, of course that would depend on the progs you want to run
[08:38] <arvind_khadri> dude_: you need to make some change jus paste it
[08:38] <arvind_khadri> !paste | dude_
[08:38] <ubotu> dude_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:38] <VoidedCheck> but 64bit ubuntu is totally backwards compatible with 32bit sw
[08:38] <VoidedCheck> and that's a fact
[08:38] <n6rej> can anyone help me figure out why "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" doesn't work in cron.daily?
[08:38] <tiocsti> but not 32 bit drivers
[08:39] <VoidedCheck> yeah drivers suck
[08:39] <jeffimperial> thanks everyone.. laters
[08:39] <n6rej> tiocsti: right, you need 64bit drivers for 64bit os
[08:39] <dude_> arvind_khadri, here ya go!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63800/
[08:39] <VoidedCheck> but driver support in linux is getting better practically by the hour
[08:40] <Michae1> someone can run guild wars on ubuntu?
[08:40] <onats> how do i exit my gnome into a terminal only?
[08:40] <dude_> voidedcheck, amen to that
[08:40] <onats> anyone?
[08:40] <VoidedCheck> and I'm almost sorry to say it, but we can thank Dell for a lot of that
[08:40] <arvind_khadri> dude_: did you copy paste completely i cant see the windows options...
[08:40] <kajo> onats
[08:40] <onats> yes kajo?
[08:40] <kajo> do one of the tty terminals?
[08:40] <tiocsti> how so? dell is only shipping hardware already supported, arent they?
[08:41] <jussio1> Kaja: ctrl + alt + f2
[08:41] <jussio1> kajo: ^
[08:41] <dude_> arvind_khadri, that's everything
[08:41] <Michae1> can someone help me to get guild wars working in wine?
[08:41] <onats> kajo, yeah, i can do that, but i need the gnome to exit completely
[08:41] <kajo> My statement was @ onats.
[08:41] <VoidedCheck> the fact that dell is running the hw is giving a major push, especially for graphics card manufacturers, to open their source
[08:41] <arvind_khadri> dude_: try rebooting once i think it wil boot
[08:41] <kajo> sudo killall gnome?
[08:41] <Badge1> onats: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:41] <kajo> pstree, find gnome, and killall.
[08:41] <Starnestommy> onats: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:41] <kajo> or that^
[08:41] <dude_> arvind_khadri, sure thing.  BRB
[08:42] <onats> lemme write those down
[08:42] <arvind_khadri> dude_: yep am anxious
[08:42] <onats> thanks!
[08:42] <tiocsti> we'll see, i usually go with intel chipsets cuz i know they work well in linux w/o closed source drivers
[08:42] <kajo> starnestommy, what is invoke-rc.d?
[08:42] <Starnestommy> to restart it, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[08:42] <VoidedCheck> my intel chipset choked on gutsy
[08:42] <Starnestommy> kajo: it calls scripts in /etc/init.d/
[08:42] <VoidedCheck> worked fine on hardy though
[08:42] <VoidedCheck> yay for kernel improvements
[08:43] <onats> brb
[08:43] <VoidedCheck> though now I'm running a nvidia 8600gt pci-e
[08:43] <VoidedCheck> just for the purdy rendering
[08:44] <tiocsti> i run ubuntu in vmware on one of my laptops, cuz not all the hardware is quite supported, its native on the other one though
[08:44] <VoidedCheck> gah, gotta go to bed...  when I wake up and go to work tomorrow, I see if that $5000 accident cost me my job
[08:45] <rewati> anrkey thanx
[08:45] <tiocsti> they'd fire you over 5k?
[08:45] <Michae1> can someone help me ?:P
[08:45] <arvind_khadri> dude_: what happend
[08:45] <rewati> anrkey i am tryin to install filezilla
[08:45] <arvind_khadri> !ask | michae
[08:45] <ubotu> michae: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:45] <dude_> arvind_khadri, :(
[08:45] <rewati> anrkey but can u  tell me wat can be the problem
[08:45] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello all
[08:45] <VoidedCheck> 5k in a theater, rendering a projector useless for 2 days, on a weekend
[08:45] <VoidedCheck> that's like $10000
[08:45] <dude_> arvind_khadri, no luck, I'm in windows
[08:46] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> a very stupid question: how do i upload a local file to a remote server via telnet?
[08:46] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hmm use the super grub live cd then
[08:46] <dude_> CURSE YOU BILL GATES!  CUUURSSE YOUUUUU!!!!
[08:46] <tiocsti> kamus: you dont, use scp instead?
[08:46] <dude_> super grub live cd?
[08:46] <VoidedCheck> anyway, g'night ubuntu land
[08:46] <arvind_khadri> dude_: http://forjamari.linex.org/projects/supergrub/
[08:47] <dude_> arvind_khadri, well can't I just edit the boot.ini file from here?
[08:47] <arvind_khadri> dude_: :) if thats readable
[08:47] <arvind_khadri> dude_: use the super grub its easy to setup
[08:48] <arvind_khadri> dude_: totally for newbies
[08:48] <dude_> arvind_khadri, wow, floppy based!  Sweet!  my cd burner is screwed so I can use that
[08:48] <gabbs> How do I get rid of avahi messing up my wifi on boot?
[08:48] <arvind_khadri> dude_: happy linuxing
[08:48] <RenaKunisaki> ok, so
[08:48] <RenaKunisaki> "grub install (hd0) failed - this is a fatal error" - is my hard drive toast?
[08:48] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: grub lost??
[08:49] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, apparently; I deleted all the partitions and reinstalled it and it failed with that at 94%
[08:49] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: you need to install completely
[08:50] <dude_> arvind_khadri, dammit, how do I work with an .img file?
[08:50] <dude_> haha
[08:50] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, what do you mean completely?
[08:50] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: i mean that you might havent done the partitions cleanly so boot into live cd and do everything properly
[08:50] <Hemebond> Is someone able to help me compile ETQW under an x86_64 system? I'm getting compatibility errors with libstdc++.
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> dude_: did you find out how to do that
[08:51] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, this is the live CD
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: do the install again
[08:51] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I'm researching the .img extension right now
[08:51] <arvind_khadri> dude_: i think you need to just copy paste and then boot from the cd
[08:51] <c0Ld> i just accidently hit something to enable compiz zooming on hardy...what did I hit? I can't seem to turn it off :/
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> dude_: i mean the floppy
[08:52] <bazhang> c0Ld: try asking in #compiz
[08:52] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I wouldn't think so, it doesn't work that way with an .iso file, it shouldn't be the same for a floppy
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: to the rescue
[08:52] <bazhang> hi arvind_khadri ;]
[08:52] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: help in restoring grub
[08:53] <sajuuk> hey guys im trying to find the program gnome-art and apparently i can download it through synaptic... but i cant find it
[08:53] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hmm
[08:53] <bazhang> sajuuk: that would be a website
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: need help to restore grub
[08:54] <sajuuk> oh no apparently its a downloader called that same name
[08:54] <Vini> Hi, I had ndiswrapper working before, than it stopped (don't know why). I've followed the same tute I did earlier, but I think the problem is my network settings.  Is there some easy way to make /etc/networks and /etc/network return to defaults from install?
[08:54] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: sure what's up with grub? did you read the !grub factoid?
[08:54] <Vini> (without having to re-install everything)
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: not me its dude_
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: we tried everything but it doesnt restore
[08:55] <Exteris> Vini, get them from someone else?
[08:55] <Vini> But then it will have their settings in in :(
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> dude_: you around
[08:56] <dude_> arvind_khadri, sure am
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> dude_: well did you read !grub
[08:56] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, OK, installing again
[08:57] <Exteris> Vini, ask some newbie then :P
[08:57] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: :)
[08:57] <Exteris> Vini, there probably is some dpkg-reconfigure command
[08:57] <unique> You must have the fully configured source for the Linux kernel and
[08:57] <unique>    ALSA which you want to use for this device driver. Partial
[08:57] <unique>    installed kernels (For example, from distributor makers) may be
[08:57] <unique>    unusable for this action.
[08:57] <FloodBot1> unique: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, just failed immediately: "attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in IDE1 master, partition #11 (hda11) at /mnt/files failed"
[08:57] <dude_> arvind_khadri, I'm trying to make that super grub floppy
[08:58] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: you need to have the ext3 for root filesys
[08:58] <rewati> anrkey r u there???
[08:58] <sajuuk> that sounds yuk with that problem
[08:58] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I did
[08:58] <sajuuk> i thought i had problems when i stuffed my Xorg file
[08:58] <rewati> anrkey this is the output of filezilla
[08:58] <unique> you must have the fully configured source for the Linux kernel and ALSA which you want to use for this device driver. can some one tell me what that means?
[08:58] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: hmm seems like a toast then
[08:58] <rewati> anrkey this is the output of filezilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63801/
[08:59] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, any way to be sure before I replace it?
[08:59] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: try restarting
[08:59] <roseman> hi everyone, do you know how to create menu like "make menuconfig"?
[08:59] <tiocsti> man dialog
[08:59] <arvind_khadri> roseman: thats ncurses
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> dude_: ask bazhan
[09:00] <rewati> roseman i dont think make menuconfig is for makin menu
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> dude_: ask bazhang
[09:00] <arvind_khadri> rewati: its for displaying a menu
[09:00] <tiocsti> dialog can be used for menus like that
[09:00] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, what happened was I decided to just delete everything and reinstall XP and Xubuntu, but when I started the XP installer it wouldn't even run
[09:00] <tiocsti> either the library or the program
[09:00] <unique> i try to run the configure file for my drivers and the system cant open it.. it says not ...application available
[09:00] <unique> could some one tell me what i need?
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: do clean the disks properly...format everything
[09:01] <RenaKunisaki> arvind_khadri, I booted a DOS disk and deleted all partitions with fdisk and then was able to create the partitions and install XP, but then this happened
[09:01] <dude_> I think I got the floppy made
[09:01] <dude_> I was right, you need special software
[09:01] <arvind_khadri> RenaKunisaki: might be the disk of DOS aint proper..use the live cd to format ;)
[09:02] <arvind_khadri> dude_: hmm njoi ;)
[09:02] <dude_> arvind_khadri, brb
[09:02] <arvind_khadri> dude_: sure
[09:02] <Hemebond> How do I force g++ to use 32bit libs?
[09:02] <SnakeyeS> how can I install xubuntu on an older dell that doesn't have a floppy or internal hdd?
[09:02] <Hemebond> On Ubuntu.
[09:02] <unique> in the term i get /bin/sh: Can't open ./configure
[09:03] <SnakeyeS> i have an external cdrom/usb
[09:03] <rewati> hey any budy here can help me with vsftp
[09:03] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: does it allow boot from usb key
[09:03] <SnakeyeS> but no option in bios to boot from/to usb
[09:03] <madrid> hjkhjk
[09:03] <sanki> ce qualche italiano
[09:04] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: where were you going to instal *to* then?
[09:04] <Theo_> If I download and install 8.04 BETA will I be able to upgrade when it is released in 4 days? Or will I have to re-install using the CD of the final 8.04?
[09:04] <SnakeyeS> windows xp...dual boot scenario
[09:04] <bazhang> Theo_: yes more more info in #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <bazhang> !it | sanki
[09:04] <ubotu> sanki: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:04] <Theo_> Io parlo un po di italiano
[09:04] <sanki> ha
[09:04] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: either wubi or unetbootin
[09:05] <SnakeyeS> either more geared toward a dummy>
[09:05] <SnakeyeS> ?
[09:05] <SnakeyeS> lol
[09:05] <bazhang> !wubi | SnakeyeS read the ubuntu forums link
[09:05] <ubotu> SnakeyeS read the ubuntu forums link: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[09:06] <sanki> ciao
[09:06] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: wait four days until it is final to be sure though
[09:06] <unique> /bin/sh: Can't open ./configure can any one tell me what this means?
[09:06] <rewati> hey arvind can u help me plz with my vsftp
[09:06] <theLichKing> wubi fails
[09:07] <Starnestommy> unique: ./configure doesn't exist, or you need to 'chmod +r ./configure'
[09:07] <bazhang> theLichKing: not here it does not
[09:07] <SnakeyeS> bazhang: so wubi is a windows app that assists with the installation?
[09:07] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: you read any of the links?
[09:07] <SnakeyeS> reading now
[09:08] <unique> ok i think that worked...
[09:08] <tomoyuki28jp> How can I make the size of my menu bars smaller? I am not using gnome. Somebody told me that I can do that with '^/.Xresources', but I could not find how.
[09:08] <unique> now i have to Run 'make'
[09:08] <SingAlong> Hi guys!
[09:08] <unique> but i get bash: Run: command not found
[09:09] <SingAlong> I have an Acer Extensa 5210 notebook. I am installing Ubuntu 6.06 on it. How can I connect to my wireless modem thru Ubuntu?
[09:09] <SingAlong> Any settings to be made?
[09:09] <Starnestommy> unique: just type 'make'
[09:09] <bazhang> SingAlong: what chipset of the card
[09:09] <SingAlong> No idea!
[09:09] <tarelerulz> I just got a ne 8b black nano ipod and I got songs on it via gtkpod .   I it all so has movies in the main menu  and I was wondering if there is way to put a movie on the nano .
[09:10] <unique> lol ty ima serious noob but im learning
[09:10] <bazhang> SingAlong: how old is that computer
[09:10] <SingAlong> bazhang: No idea! How do I find that out?
[09:10] <unique> /bin/sh: cannot create /var/log/creative-installer.log: Permission denied
[09:10] <SingAlong> bazhang: Its a P4 with 512MB RAM and 80GB HDD. Its around a year old (since the time I bought it from the dealer)
[09:11] <bazhang> SingAlong: any reason for dapper (6.06)? why not a more recent version
[09:11] <SingAlong> bazhang: Oh sorry its a celeron (not a P4). other config are right
[09:11] <unique> how do i gain admin permission on the term...
[09:11] <SingAlong> bazhang: I dont have a CD. Yet to order it thru Shipit!
[09:11] <bazhang> SingAlong: no burner?
[09:12] <SnakeyeS> Wubi is a Ubuntu installer for Windows users that will bring you into the Linux world with a single click.
[09:12] <SnakeyeS> interesting  :)
[09:12] <SingAlong> Yeah it has a DVD Reader (and CD-RW)
[09:12] <compumike> anyone have luck with b43 driver on kernel 2.6.25?
[09:12] <bazhang> SingAlong: what about downloading the iso and burning to cd and then running the livecd of 7.10
[09:13] <bazhang> compumike: not even hardy uses that kernel
[09:13] <SingAlong> bazhang: Yeah will do it. But I am currently running the installation on 6.06 on my notebook (I m on IRC thru comp)
[09:14] <SingAlong> bazhang: And my internet connection sucks. I am in India and have a 256kbps connection. My download speed is around 25Kbps
[09:14] <Hemebond> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.2/+bug/186730 Dang nabit!
[09:14] <SnakeyeS> bazhang: wubi's out
[09:14] <bazhang> SingAlong: if you wait a few days you can go from dapper to hardy (next release) in one step
[09:14] <dmsuperman> I'm using compiz CCSM to edit my shortcut commands. I set a command to "gnome-screensaver-command --lock" and then the hotkey to Super + L. If I press Super + L, nothing happens, but when I run that command it locks linux as it should. any ideas?
[09:14] <tomoyuki28jp> I wanna do this without using gnome. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657780  Can anybody teach me how?  I have been struggling so long...
[09:15] <unique> how do i gain admin permission on the term....
[09:15] <SingAlong> bazhang: yeah will do it for sure... But just want to know if I can connect to wireless. (I am installing Ubuntu 6.06 in  hurry because my Windows got screwed up. Its corrupted. And I thought its time to switch)
[09:15] <bazhang> unique: sudo
[09:15] <SnakeyeS> wubi needs 256mb of memory to install.  I have 128
[09:15] <unique> ty
[09:15] <Starnestommy> !sudo | unique
[09:15] <ubotu> unique: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[09:16] <bazhang> SingAlong: can you get to a terminal and run a command? if so try lspci and see what the (one line, dont paste here) card is
[09:16] <bazhang> SnakeyeS: well either up the ram or get some really ultra-lightweight distro
[09:16] <SingAlong> bazhang: Yeah couple of minutes. My ubuntu installation is just over. Need to reboot the notebook
[09:18] <tiocsti> im not sure how happy ubuntu would be in 128m ram, might wanna use xubuntu instead
[09:18] <SingAlong> bazhang: I ran the command thru the livecd itself. I got a whole list of details
[09:18] <unique> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution dose any one know what syn that would be
[09:18] <sirjulio> what's the linux equivalent for DAEMON Tools?
[09:18] <bazhang> xubuntu would not run; perhaps fluxbuntu
[09:18] <sknh> Hi
[09:18] <atlas95> sirjulio: I have a bash script for mount iso
[09:19] <sknh> I installed texvc but when I run it, it says latex command not found
[09:19] <SingAlong> bazhang: I got a lot of details. About card should I look for?
[09:19] <bazhang> SingAlong: why dont you reboot first
[09:19] <SingAlong> bazhang: yeah sure
[09:19] <sknh> cjk-latex is the package to be installed for latex?
[09:19] <bazhang> !info texlive
[09:19] <ubotu> texlive (source: texlive-base): TeX Live: A decent selection of the TeX Live packages. In component main, is optional. Version 2007-10 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:19] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: tried the new kernel
[09:19] <SingAlong> bazhang:  while the notebook is rebooting... may I know whether its possible to sun Solidedge on Ubuntu?
[09:19] <sirjulio> atlas95: gr8, can u share?
[09:20] <atlas95> yes
[09:20] <bazhang> SingAlong: what is solid edge
[09:20] <sknh> texlive or tetex?
[09:20] <Aldenor> hi
[09:20] <SingAlong> bazhang: Solidedge is a CAD software. Like AutoCAD
[09:20] <Aldenor> anybody know a irc channel for ubuntu in spanish?
[09:20] <kaminix> Okay, how do I blacklist three drivers, and make it autoload another one?
[09:20] <SingAlong> bazhang: Used to do all those mechanical drawing and stuff. I have it for my university
[09:20] <Starnestommy> Aldenor: #ubuntu-es
[09:20] <Aldenor> thankx
[09:20] <bazhang> SingAlong: that is windows only or linux as well
[09:20] <atlas95> by DCC accept sirjulio
[09:21] <gd> if I logon remote desktop by vnc , how to watch the remote host's current desktop ?
[09:21] <SingAlong> bazhang: Only for windows.
[09:21] <SingAlong> bazhang: I saw a lot of people asking abt running it thru Wine.
[09:21] <unique> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution dose any one know what syn that would be
[09:22] <bazhang> SingAlong: have you checked the !appdb? /msg ubotu appdb for more info
[09:22] <sirjulio> atlas95: sry, bit of noob, DCC?
[09:22] <SingAlong> bazhang: hehehe!! Its a paid software (Hussshhhh.... everyone in our class use a pirated version)  :)
[09:23] <bazhang> SingAlong: please dont talk about that here
[09:23] <atlas95> I up it somewhere, wait
[09:23] <SingAlong> bazhang: ok ok... But I found a better solution. Unigraphics, the company that produces Solidedge gives away a free version for 2D drawings.
[09:24] <SingAlong> bazhang: Thats what we need.
[09:24] <slacker> hi there
[09:24] <bazhang> SingAlong: you can try it via wine or in a vm with windows
[09:24] <R-i-c-k> hola
[09:24] <SingAlong> bazhang: hmm...
[09:24] <slacker> is anyone using the videotrans package to make video dvds?
[09:24] <atlas95> sirjulio: http://www.atlas95.com/fichiers/daemon-tools.sh
[09:25] <slacker> I can't seem to get the menu images to work. it's all black
[09:25] <atlas95> * sirjulio: http://www.atlas95.com/fichiers/daemon-tool.sh
[09:25] <DOOM_NX> how can i make sure, ssh server is using the key i made with ssh-keygen?
[09:25] <sirjulio> atlas95: thnx mate
[09:25] <Dr_willis> gd,  vnc can be set up to share the current desktop - or create a 'hidden' virtual desktop that you can only see/connect to with a vnc client.
[09:26] <atlas95> ;)
[09:26] <slacker> DOOM_NX: it'll automatically try if your ssh client offers pub key authentication
[09:26] <SingAlong> bazhang: Oops! I think I forgot the password or typed the wrong case during installation! Anyway to get that working or should I reinstall?
[09:27] <astro76> DOOM_NX: the public key should be in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:27] <heikkus> hello! how come i can't get my old computer to boot from the ubuntu livecd  although it boots fine from a windows xp cd ? :E
[09:27] <Vasa> hi, I decided to use tahoma font in ubuntu's menu, but font k is disorted. How can I solve that?
[09:27] <Dr_willis> heikkus,  give more detailas as to what it does do . when you try to boot the live cd
[09:27] <bazhang> SingAlong: hehe; that has happened to me in the past--just try some variations and if not then boot into the live cd and change it
[09:27] <Vasa> Or  how can  I disable antialias?
 DOOM_NX: the public key should be in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys -> yes it's there, but how do i know if it's being used?
[09:28] <bazhang> heikkus: you need to provide more than just bare bones info
 DOOM_NX: it'll automatically try if your ssh client offers pub key authentication => i don't have a 2nd pc to test it right now
[09:28] <sirjulio> atlas95: getting a not found
[09:28] <astro76> DOOM_NX: if you're not asked for a password
[09:28] <ranma_1\2> proftpd-mysql courier-authdaemon courier-base courier-imap courier-maildrop courier-pop libberkeleydb-perl libcrypt-blowfish-perl libcrypt-cbc-perl libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl libdate-calc-perl libdate-manip-perl libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libio-stringy-perl libmail-sendmail-perl libmailtools-perl libmd5-perl libmime-perl libnet-dns-perl libnet-netmask-perl libnet-perl libnet-smtp-server-perl libperl5.8 libsnmp-session-perl libterm-readk
[09:28] <ranma_1\2> see anything there that shouldnt be removed ??
[09:28] <SingAlong> bazhang: Does the liveCD have an option to change the password?
[09:28] <atlas95> sirjulio: I verify sorry :)
[09:29] <bazhang> SingAlong: you can do it; forgot the command offhand though
[09:29] <atlas95> sirjulio: http://www.atlas95.com/fichiers/bin/daemon-tool.sh , sorry :p
[09:29] <ranma_1\2> too late :P
[09:30] <Dr_willis> you can boot a live cd, then chroot into the installed system, and use the passwd USERNAME command to set a new password. is one way. rescue mode may let you do it also
[09:30] <heikkus> hmm. it tries to boot from the cd but then just says the cd is unbootable :E i tweaked the bios so that it only boots from the cd-rom and not at all from the hard drive
[09:30] <Dr_willis> heikkus,  look on the cd. what files are on the cd? what program did you use to burn the iso to cd?
[09:30] <slacker> DOOM_NX: ssh localhost
[09:31] <B3NZ1N0> hello all
[09:31] <bazhang> SingAlong: look at Dr_willis's command above
[09:31] <B3NZ1N0> please I have a question
[09:31] <DOOM_NX> it says
[09:31] <DOOM_NX> The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.
[09:31] <DOOM_NX> RSA key fingerprint is e4:c0:e5:23:8c:e6:f7:98:70:08:1a:b7:85:0f:f0:90.
[09:31] <DOOM_NX> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[09:31] <slacker> you're sure
[09:31] <heikkus> i think the cd is ok cause it installed fine on my newer system
[09:31] <astro76> DOOM_NX: you'll get that either way the first time
[09:31] <SingAlong> Dr_willis: the command please (I m a linux noob)
[09:32] <bazhang> ask B3NZ1N0
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> !ask | B3NZ1N0
[09:32] <ubotu> B3NZ1N0: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:32] <slacker> DOOM_NX: you can remove 'localhost' from the list of known hosts afterwards if you like
[09:32] <slacker> it's also in ~/.ssh/
[09:32] <heikkus> i burned it with cdburnedxp pro at the library
[09:33] <Dr_willis> SingAlong it might be faster if you just reinstall and REMBER your password then.
 it's also in ~/.ssh/ -> what is there?
[09:33] <B3NZ1N0> my mIRC is saying 4 days more to chat of because I have not registered I taught there is a way I might be able to get through to regiser  so that I will not be seeing such things and I can chat with mIRC for life
[09:33] <arvind_khadri> SingAlong: what do you want
[09:33] <DOOM_NX> the key u mean?
[09:33] <DOOM_NX> how do i know if it's using it... cause i need to connect from winxp using putty
[09:33] <bazhang> B3NZ1N0: switch to a linux client or pay up
[09:33] <Dr_willis> SingAlong,  in short. boot to recovery/rescue mode to get to a shell.  mount the installed system, chroot /mountpoint, passwd username.   Of course all that is total magic to you. :) but i dont know the specifcs of your system.
[09:34] <slacker> DOOM_NX: known_hosts. don't worry about it
[09:34] <SingAlong> arvind_khadri: I forgot the password after installation. I tried a lot of variations. Now I got it!
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> B3NZ1N0: use xchat ;)
[09:34] <slacker> DOOM_NX: if it asks for a password, it's not using the key.
[09:34] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,  you can get a free versionof xchat for windows and dump mIRC
[09:34] <SingAlong> Dr_willis: Thank you! I tried a lot of variations and got it now!
[09:34] <slacker> DOOM_NX: there are howto's that explain what you have to do to get pub key auth working with putty and opensshd
[09:35] <arvind_khadri> SingAlong: boot into the recovery mode and add a new user
[09:35] <SingAlong> bazhang: Now I have to run lspci right?
[09:35] <SingAlong> arvind_khadri: Oh I need to keep that in mind if I forget the password again :)
[09:35] <bazhang> SingAlong: yes and !paste the output (not here to pastebin)
[09:35] <arvind_khadri> !paste | SingAlong
[09:35] <ubotu> SingAlong: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:35] <Dr_willis> learn to rember your passwords :)
[09:35] <slacker> DOOM_NX: you can either create a new pub key with putty or import the one you created with ssh-keygen I think
[09:35] <B3NZ1N0> so no one can help me with the registration code nor a way to break this code?
[09:35] <arvind_khadri> bazhang: the factiod when calling a name doesnt work ;)
[09:36] <SingAlong> ubotu: yeah sure friend
[09:36] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,   No. we dont care about mIRC one way or another...
[09:36] <arvind_khadri> B3NZ1N0: no piracy
[09:36] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,  it has NOTHING to do with linux.
[09:36] <arvind_khadri> B3NZ1N0: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:36] <B3NZ1N0> but you are using mirc
 DOOM_NX: there are howto's that explain what you have to do to get pub key auth working with putty and opensshd -> i was reading that while setting it up
[09:36] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,  totally WRONG., we are using IRC.
[09:36] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,  mIRC is one of MANY irc clients.
[09:36] <bazhang> !piracy > B3NZ1N0
[09:36] <DOOM_NX> slacker, i created one with ssh-keygen and imported it to putty
[09:37] <Dr_willis> !irc | B3NZ1N0
[09:37] <ubotu> B3NZ1N0: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:37] <DOOM_NX> but is the ssh server using the key? cause putty is...
[09:37] <Boohbah> B3NZ1N0: try xchat
[09:37] <SingAlong> bazhang: I got a big result. As I said I am on my cop and instaling linux on my notebook(I cant connect to net on notebook. Thats what I need to do). So it would be better if u tell me what kinda card I need to search for?
[09:37] <slacker> DOOM_NX: did you copy the id_xxx.pub file to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[09:37] <SingAlong> *comp
[09:37] <DOOM_NX> slacker yes
[09:37] <DOOM_NX> i followed this guide: http://linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html
[09:38] <slacker> DOOM_NX: on the linux, what happens after you type ssh localhost?
[09:38] <B3NZ1N0> !irc
[09:38] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:38] <JPSman> so I see that you can download a lot of amateur ham radio software, but when i run it it needs /dev/mixer   why?
[09:38] <bazhang> SingAlong: do you have ethernet for the laptop? or just can run a terminal in it? dont need net access for that, just the laptop running
[09:38] <DOOM_NX> slacker,  ssh localhost
[09:38] <DOOM_NX> Enter passphrase for key '/home/doom/.ssh/id_rsa':
[09:38] <JPSman> er /dev/radio      why?
[09:39] <unique> wow i want to thank every one that helped me i tryed for 2 weeks to get this sound card to work thank you!
[09:39] <B3NZ1N0> so whats XCHAT like, can I chat with pple using mirc?
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> !dev | JPSman
[09:39] <ubotu> JPSman: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[09:39] <SingAlong> arvind_khadri: I can connect the internet wire.
[09:39] <slacker> DOOM_NX: that's the password for your key. you can use ssh-agent to manage that. otherwise you have to type it in every time
[09:39] <SingAlong>  bazhang: I can connect the internet wire.
[09:39] <Starnestommy> B3NZ1N0: yes. any IRC client can chat with people using any client
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> JPSman: oops sorry /dev are the device files
[09:39] <slacker> DOOM_NX: that's NOT your login password
[09:39] <DOOM_NX> slacker, i typed it... ok what happened?
[09:39] <B3NZ1N0> and I can scan also?
[09:39] <bazhang> SingAlong: that would be best really
[09:40] <SingAlong> bazhang: I have a laptop running.
[09:40] <slacker> DOOM_NX: it didn't complain?
[09:40] <arvind_khadri> JPSman: so you would need a receiver for that
[09:40] <Starnestommy> B3NZ1N0: what do you mean by 'scan'?
[09:40] <DOOM_NX> slacker, no :(
[09:40] <DOOM_NX> it said
[09:40] <slacker> DOOM_NX: should work from windows too
[09:40] <B3NZ1N0> I mean scan for mailers and so on?
[09:41] <DOOM_NX> Linux doom-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC .....
[09:41] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,  mailers?
[09:41] <JPSman> arwind_khadri : what are the chances that I can build one?
[09:41] <slacker> DOOM_NX: did you point putty at the right location of the pub key?
[09:41] <astro76> !ot | B3NZ1N0
[09:41] <DOOM_NX> what does this mean?
[09:41] <ubotu> B3NZ1N0: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:41] <slacker> DOOM_NX: means it works. you're logged in to localhost
[09:41] <bazhang> SingAlong: if you wish, then connect the ethernet wire/cable and then pastebin the output of lspci to the pastebin site--tell us the address then we can go read it without flooding the channel
[09:41] <B3NZ1N0> mean
[09:41] <DOOM_NX> slacker, yes but... i don't think it will ever be able to connect because windows is a guest os in vbox... using NAT...
[09:42] <B3NZ1N0> this cahn sucks
[09:42] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,   the various irc clients for linux, can do about anytying that mIRC can do.. and many things mIRC cant do. - irc clients connect to irc servers, and join channels so you can chat. :)
[09:42] <SingAlong> bazhang: yeah will get back
[09:42] <bazhang> B3NZ1N0: please read the /topic
[09:42] <DOOM_NX> slacker, how do i unlog? :P
[09:42] <arvind_khadri> B3NZ1N0: building them is no chance for users ..its a developer thing ...so why dont you get a device.../dev/ points to the devices you have
[09:42] <DOOM_NX> logout*
[09:42] <B3NZ1N0> I dont use linux
[09:42] <slacker> DOOM_NX: ctrl+d
[09:42] <Dr_willis> B3NZ1N0,   Then why are you hanging in a Linux related channel?
[09:42] <slacker> DOOM_NX: from your windows, can you ping the linux box?
[09:42] <bazhang> B3NZ1N0: please exit and go to ##windows thanks
[09:43] <DOOM_NX> slacker, no because i'm using NAT
[09:43] <slacker> DOOM_NX: so why are you even trying to get ssh working for it?
[09:43] <DOOM_NX> i was just trying to see how putty works
[09:43] <DOOM_NX> i didn't expect it to connect
[09:44] <slacker> putty doesn't do much without a server to connect to
[09:44] <DOOM_NX> i know... just the settings
[09:44] <slacker> ic
[09:44] <DOOM_NX> so slacker if i import the key to another PC
[09:44] <DOOM_NX> using putty
[09:44] <DOOM_NX> and try to connect, will it connect?
[09:44] <heikkus> wow im gonna try this flubuntu thingy ->
[09:44] <Redhammer_the_Ol> tv
[09:44] <root> Hey all
[09:45] <zvacet> root ask
[09:45] <thoreauputic> root: Using IRC as root is a silly idea, in case you didn't know :)
[09:45] <DOOM_NX> slacker, i sued "vncviewer localhost:1" and got this: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5290/screenshotvncdoomsxdeskyk0.png
[09:45] <explorer2> 8.04 looks just like 7.10 :( :((
[09:46] <root> Im on root
[09:46] <root> user on Ubuntu
[09:46] <thoreauputic> root: why?
[09:46] <root> Forgot to chang
[09:46] <Dr_willis> we can tell that from your nick. :)
[09:46] <root> I run my own web server
[09:46] <thoreauputic> root: your /whois shows "root"
[09:47] <Dr_willis> we are safer now? :)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: changing your nick doesn't change the fact that you are using IRC as root :)
[09:47] <Habbotom> ;)
[09:47] <Habbotom> thoreauputic: Whats wrong with using it
[09:48] <slacker> DOOM_NX: putty can do pub key authentication, if you have the settings right. it works for me
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: in some channels you would be kicked :) It's not a secure thing to do
[09:48] <DOOM_NX> slacker, i guess so, but see what VNC shows...
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: make a user accout and do your on line stuff with that
[09:48] <newbieu> can someone help me , i can record sound on ubuntu
[09:49] <slacker> so, nobody around who used videotrans before?
[09:49] <newbieu> *cnat
[09:49] <slacker> DOOM_NX: vnc doesn't use ssh
[09:49] <newbieu> *cant
[09:49] <Habbotom> Cant use Lammp on any other user
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: nonsense
[09:49] <Habbotom> Can only start it on root user
[09:50] <Habbotom> Its normally known as Xammp
[09:50] <DOOM_NX> slacker, so... how can i use VNC over SSH? server: ubuntu, client: winxp
[09:50] <Starnestommy> Habbotom: have you tried using sudo?
[09:50] <slacker> ah well, i shall have a black background then
[09:50] <popey> DOOM_NX: ssh tunneling
[09:50] <JPSman> can I watch TV with linux?
[09:50] <Habbotom> Nope
[09:50] <explorer2> me +x
[09:50] <slacker> DOOM_NX: you have to tunnel the correct port using ssh -L
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: yo are missing the point I'm afraid - all you need to do is create a user for other purposes - any linux can do that
[09:50] <popey> DOOM_NX: putty on windows supports tunneling
[09:50] <DOOM_NX> slacker, i see... but i can set that on putty, no?
[09:51] <slacker> DOOM_NX: sorry. you setup port forwarding from withing putty
[09:51] <Dr_willis> JPSman,  depends on how you define watch tv. My tv tuner card does work with linux. and i can go to most of the web-sites that have tv broadcast/bideos
[09:51] <DOOM_NX> okai
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Habbotom: then you simply do "su <otheruser>
[09:51] <DOOM_NX> so is everything ok in the server's side?
[09:52] <Vasa> hi, my laptop fan runs 80% on ubuntu, 5% on Live ubuntu, and  5 % on XP runtime. What can cause it?
[09:53] <slacker> I've gotta go - housewarming
[09:53] <slacker> DOOM_NX: she'll be right
[09:53] <slacker> cu guys
[09:53] <DOOM_NX> slacker, thank u
[09:53] <DOOM_NX> aw
[09:53] <DOOM_NX> :(
[09:54] <Vasa> Could it be, that my cpufreq output says, that no driver installed?
[09:54] <popey> DOOM_NX: http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/puttyvnc.cgi
[09:55] <DOOM_NX> what is smoothwall?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> DOOM_NX: specialised Linux Firewall distribution
[09:55] <DOOM_NX> popey
[09:55] <DOOM_NX> why should i need smoothwall?
[09:56] <Vasa> any idea?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> DOOM_NX: Usually as a gateway/firewall on a LAN etc.
[09:56] <astro76> DOOM_NX: perhaps that link tells you how to tunnel vnc over ssh using putty? just a guess...
[09:57] <DOOM_NX> astro76, yes i know, but do i need smoothwall?
[09:57] <cherva> can I swap the cannels of my souncard ?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> DOOM_NX: probably not
[09:57] <astro76> DOOM_NX: no
[09:57] <DOOM_NX> okay
[09:57] <chalcedony> ive got problems with our router dying, comcast told me to unplug it, but it had the same probem 3 times.. not transmitting any pings.
[09:57] <harmental> hey guys....does anybody know a tool for creating video captures (besides wink and recordmydesktop)??
[09:57] <astro76> !screencast | harmental
[09:57] <ubotu> harmental: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[09:58] <DOOM_NX> anybody knows why "vncviewer localhost:1" shows: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5290/screenshotvncdoomsxdeskyk0.png
[09:59] <harmental> astro76: thx!!
[09:59] <Bogaurd> how early in bood are the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-id/ established? would it be before MDADM arrays are started?
[09:59] <Bogaurd> boot*
[09:59] <chalcedony> i don't even know where to start to debug the router..
[09:59] <Vasa> any idea with cpufreq?
[10:00] <JPSman> so I have this cable input and the TV software wants /dev/video0  how do I tell it that it has it?
[10:00] <RenaKunisaki> ok so I wiped the first several GB of the hard disk with dd from /dev/zero and installed again, it went fine but when I try to boot the system, GRUB loads and shows the list of options but both of them say "error 15, file not found"
[10:01] <bazhang> chalcedony: not really an ubuntu issue; you might check the hardware channel and also look into dd-wrt (on the web)
[10:01] <RenaKunisaki> so I'm guessing the disk is just dead?
[10:02] <chalcedony> bazhang: ty
[10:03] <bazhang> RenaKunisaki: the first few gb? how big is the hard drive and why that way
[10:04] <RenaKunisaki> bazhang, 250GB, I set it to wipe the whole disk but that was taking forever so I aborted it after about 7.5GB, figured as long as it wiped the partition tables it should be enough
[10:05] <bazhang> RenaKunisaki: get the gparted/parted magic live cd and do a proper job of it (the whole disk)
[10:06] <bazhang> RenaKunisaki: as arvin told you on more than one occasion
[10:06] <boohoo> I have a file called .known_hosts in my /myacc/
[10:07] <boohoo> it has a bunch of ip addresses, then next to them saying ssh-rsa and a huge set of characters
[10:07] <boohoo> does this mean, I can connect to this meahcines?
[10:07] <super-blr> Hi all Ubuntu users! greetings!
[10:07] <super-blr> wow! Ubuntu rocks.!
[10:07] <zvacet> super-blr So,I´m not alone
[10:08] <super-blr> one doubt: how is Ubuntu different from Gentoo? which of the two is better for Laptops?
[10:08] <Dr_willis> super-blr,  ubuntu has worked BEST on my laptops - out of the dozen or so distros ive tried.
[10:08] <bazhang> super-blr: you have a support question or just wish to chat
[10:08] <zvacet> super-blr Not a big difference.You only need book to install Gentoo
[10:09] <super-blr> I represent a Laptop maker.. we ship around 5000 laptops a month. not very high-end. I need inputs to know which would be better for such OEM installations
[10:09] <Dr_willis> gentoo is not suited for people that have to ask 'whats the differance btweek gentoo and ubuntu' :)
[10:09] <Dr_willis> super-blr,  def. stick with Ubuntu then.
[10:09] <Vasa> hey, does anyone see my typings?
[10:09] <bazhang> super-blr: you may wish to go to #ubuntu-offtopic then for poll/chat then thanks
[10:10] <bullgard4> What kind of files have the filename extension '.schemas'? Example: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-dictionary.schemas
[10:10] <Dr_willis> Vasa,  no we dont.. :) err.. i mean yes we do/
[10:10] <super-blr> Vasa: yes I see yours
[10:10] <newbieu> i get this error when i test my microphone in sound preferences :Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat
[10:10] <littlepeon> or that they can connect to you BooHoo
[10:11] <kelvin911> got any iso editor in ubuntu?
[10:11] <Vasa> thanks
[10:11] <bazhang> kelvin911: you wish to remaster an iso?
[10:11] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  i recall a few 'iso' editor apps in the repos. Kiso is one.  - what spefiically do you wish to do  with a .iso file?
[10:11] <Vasa> Could you advise any cpu scsling package for omnibook?
[10:11] <Vasa> scaling
[10:11] <kelvin911> yes i want to delete some file and move some file to that iso
[10:12] <Dr_willis> !info isomaster
[10:12] <Vasa> because the fan runs 95% of the runtime
[10:12] <zvacet> kelvin911 isomaster
[10:12] <ubotu> isomaster (source: isomaster): A graphical CD image editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 756 kB
[10:12] <super-blr> and, which would be the ideal case for Gentoo, than Ubuntu?
[10:12] <kelvin911> is isomaster in add/remove?
[10:12] <bazhang> ubuntu config kit is not bad (uck)
[10:12] <rewati>  when ever i try to connect it it say begning ftp transaction and stucks there
[10:12] <zvacet> kelvin911 synaptic
[10:12] <rewati> hi there i am tryin to ssh to my frnds computer in a same room under same router but it say connection refused
[10:12] <Dr_willis> super-blr,  when you as a USER want total controll over every last little bit of your system and have plenty of time to spend.
[10:13] <bazhang> super-blr: please go to the chat channel thanks
[10:13] <Dr_willis> but thats all i have to say on the topic. :)
[10:13] <mosno> super-blr, it might be easier in Gentoo to fork the distro for your own needs
[10:13] <Jemt> !tell jemt about xserver
[10:13] <Vasa> anyone: COU help?
[10:13] <starscalling> hrm
[10:13] <Vasa> CPU?
[10:13] <starscalling> is there a dapper server metapackage ?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> super-blr: you are unlikely to get a good answer re: comparisons of distros in a channel dedicated to one of them :)
[10:13] <starscalling> where if random stuff was removed itl get it all back in?
[10:14] <super-blr> thoreauputic: I agree. which is the better place to get answers for my Q's ?
[10:14] <mosno> thoreauputic, i'll be objective ;)
[10:15] <thoreauputic> mosno: I didn't mean that so much - just that only a few people would know both gento and ubuntu here :)
[10:15] <thoreauputic> (gentoo
[10:15] <bullgard4> What kind of files have the filename extension '.schemas'? Example: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-dictionary.schemas
[10:15] <bazhang> plus its not a poll channel
[10:15] <thoreauputic> super-blr: maybe try ##linux ?
[10:16] <super-blr> okaY!, thanks all. Bye
[10:16] <astro76> bullgard4: they specify entries in gconf
[10:16] <thoreauputic> super-blr: people there would be users of a variety of distros I think
[10:16] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  what sort of anwer are you expecting exactly? it seems that its just some setting file from the example you give.
[10:16] <Jemt> super-blr: Gentoo and Ubuntu are very different. Gentoo is perfect if you really want to tweak your system and get your hands dirty - and if you don't mind spending hours, even days compiling your software. Ubuntu (or Debian for that matter) is composed of binaries - already build software components. Just install and it's all set. You may get a bit better performance from Gentoo on older systems, but on a more recent computer, it's just not worth the trouble.
[10:16] <woj> hello, im looking for software to change id3 tags on my mp3 files. anyone know?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Jemt: he left :)
[10:17] <Jemt> thoreauputic: Yeah. I pmsg'ed him instead :)
[10:17] <zvacet> woj easytag
[10:17] <nxusr> can edit a mounted iso
[10:17] <woj> zvacet: thx
[10:17] <Dr_willis> nxusr,   You proberly want to unmount the .iso file, edit it. then remount it.
[10:17] <bazhang> nxusr: not likely
[10:18] <bullgard4> Dr_willis: I am expecting a definition what programs do use files with an .schema extension.
[10:18] <nxusr> edit the iso with what?
[10:18] <Jemt> nxusr: You could extract the ISO file and re-create it
[10:18] <wawrzyn181> siema
[10:19] <bazhang> polish wawrzyn181?
[10:19] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  seems like a gnome config. perhaps ask in #gnome
[10:19] <eric> Anyone have 8.04 installed yet?
[10:19] <wawrzyn181> plish
[10:19] <kaminix^> How do I make ubuntu autostart the wlan0 interface on startup?
[10:19] <astro76> bullgard4: any (gnome) programs which want to use the gconf system
[10:19] <bazhang> !pl | wawrzyn181
[10:19] <ubotu> wawrzyn181: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:19] <wawrzyn181> polish and english
[10:20] <wawrzyn181> I'm new usser ubuntu
[10:20] <wawrzyn181> jak tu z kims popisac ????
[10:20] <zvacet> wawrzyn181 what do you want to know
[10:20] <eric> anyone have any issues with upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:20] <Tyczek> wawrzyn181, /join #ubuntu.pol
[10:20] <Tyczek> wawrzyn181, /join #ubuntu.pl
[10:20] <astro76> eric: everyone in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[10:20] <nxusr> Jemt, thanks
[10:20] <FloodBot1> Tyczek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <Tyczek> *
[10:20] <Jemt> nxusr: :)
[10:20] <wawrzyn181> I have new friends
[10:20] <eric> astro76, ah ok thanks
[10:21] <bullgard4> astro76: Thank you very much for explaining.
[10:22] <dubby> hey anyone, I have a graphing program in windows i was wondering if there is an opensource equivalent to microsofts power calculator
[10:22] <rewati> hey can anybudy help me with vsftp plz
[10:22] <dubby> !vsftp
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <awmcclain> what's the difference between man1 and man3?
[10:23] <dubby> 2 men..
[10:23] <rewati> hey any budy there can anybudy help me
[10:24] <bazhang> !helpme | rewati
[10:24] <adam__> rewati... just 1215 ghosts out here ;)
[10:24] <ubotu> rewati: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[10:24] <Jemt> I'm quite impressed that Ubuntu detects the graphics card and enables the 3D desktop per default now. Didn't it use VESA previously ?
[10:24] <astro76> awmcclain: man man
[10:25] <awmcclain> ahhhhhh
[10:25] <astro76> hehe
[10:25] <ProN00b> zomg, stuff is faster on heron !
[10:25] <awmcclain> it refers to the section number!
[10:25] <dubby> in reference to the manual command
[10:25]  * awmcclain 's mind blows up
[10:26] <rewati> adam_ i am not gettin any sound on my laptop speaker but i can get sound through headpone
[10:26] <ChaosParser> Jemt: Not for a long while, no.
[10:26] <ChaosParser> rewati: What does alsamixer look like?
[10:26] <dubby> rewati : in your volume control see if the proper switches are enabled , as well as that that certain speaker isn't being muted
[10:26] <astro76> rewati: check the mixer (double click the volume icon) or run alsamixer
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> How to unistal skype?
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> From console.
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> I don't have it in Add/Remove.
[10:27] <ChaosParser> guja_nebeska: sudo apt-get remove skype
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> Thanks.
[10:27] <ChaosParser> guja_nebeska: No problem. :)
[10:27] <DOOM_NX> "Permission denied, please try again. xxx@xxx.xxx.com's password:" is this because of the RSA key not installed in his system?
[10:27] <Jemt> ChaosParser: Okay. Do you by any chance know how the detection is done? Using a shell script that parses the output from 'hwinfo' or similar ? That's probably how I would do it
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> Reading package lists... Done
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> Building dependency tree
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> Reading state information... Done
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> E: Couldn't find package skype
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> What's this?
[10:27] <FloodBot1> guja_nebeska: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <zvacet>      guja_nebeska            sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[10:27] <guja_nebeska> FloodBot1, ok, sorry.
[10:28] <rakib> Hi how can i get "fish" like property in ubuntu for ssh as in conqueror?
[10:28] <guja_nebeska> zvacet, same thing.
[10:28] <zvacet>      guja_nebeska                         locate skype
[10:28] <bazhang> guja_nebeska: how did you install it
[10:28] <aldi1> can someone tell me how to stop X server on ubuntu 8.04 *live version i want to install nvidia driver
[10:28] <rakib> is there any file manager like conqueror in ubuntu that supports fish ?
[10:28] <bazhang> !hardy | aldi1
[10:28] <ubotu> aldi1: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:29] <rewati> astro76 i did every thin looks fine in alsa mixer
[10:29] <Jemt> ChaosParser: Ah, just found this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:29] <zvacet>       aldi1 :                  sudo /etc/init.d/ gdm stop
[10:29] <Jemt> ChaosParser: It seems to be a script doing the job :)
[10:29] <aldi1> rakib try nautilus and sftp://host
[10:29] <aldi1> zvacet: it wont, tried it
[10:29] <rewati> dubby i did every thin looks fine in voice controll
[10:30] <guja_nebeska> bazhang, zvacet : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63804/
[10:30] <SnakeyeS> bazhang?
[10:30] <JPSman> how can I turn ubuntu into a TV tuner?
[10:30] <rewati> Chaosparse i did every thin looks fine in alsa mixer
[10:30] <rewati> Chaosparser i did every thin looks fine in alsa mixer
[10:30] <bazhang> got to go for a bit; back later
[10:30] <Jemt> ChaosParser: Ah, no. It uses 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. Now I just need to find out if it could be executed automatically - without interference from the user
[10:30] <JPSman> I have the cable plugin that cam with the computer
[10:30] <dubby> rewati what does your alsa mixer look like ^ (someone else asked you that and it really pertains to that) like how many switches are there
[10:30] <dubby> if the switches tab exists
[10:30] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga
[10:31] <astro76> JPSman: if linux supports it it should be ready to go, try tvtime
[10:31] <kaminix> How do I make ubuntu do ifconfig wlan0 up automatically on startup?
[10:31] <SnakeyeS> I'm installing xubuntu on a windows xp system to dual boot.  How should I partition?  I'm lost on this part of the process
[10:31] <rewati> dubby master 59<>59 pcm 100<>100
[10:31] <Dr_willis> kaminix,  could put the command in /etc/rc.local
[10:31] <dubby> rewati thats not the switches tab
[10:31] <zvacet>         guja_nebeska :                                   sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq skype
[10:31] <dubby> ...
[10:31] <rewati> dubby master 59<>59 pcm 100<>100 front 80<>80
[10:31] <rewati> ok
[10:31] <dubby> no...
[10:31] <rakib> aldi1: can i use with pcmanfm
[10:31] <rakib> ?
[10:32] <dubby> there should be tabs
[10:32] <kaminix> Dr_willis: Will that just run the command?
[10:32] <dubby> a switches tab
[10:32] <DOOM_NX> "ssh: connect to host doo.xxx.com port 22: Connection refused" why?
[10:32] <Dr_willis> kaminix,  yes.
[10:32] <JPSman> astro76: tried it, needs /dev/video0
[10:32] <dubby> also you could try edit preferences and make sure all of those are checked
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> zvacet, hvala :o)
[10:32] <aldi1> rakib: dont know, never treied that software
[10:32] <lopin> Anyone help me with the webcam?
[10:33] <aldi1> guja_nebeska: odakle si :)
[10:33] <rakib> aldi1: thanks for the help
[10:33] <zvacet> guja_nebeska nama na cemu
[10:33] <JPSman> astro76: are there possible drivers I need for ubuntu to recognize this cable input?
[10:33] <dubby> lopin, camorama
[10:33] <astro76> JPSman: then you should check what card/chipset you have and check for Linux support... check MythTV's website, they have good tv tuner compatibility lists
[10:33] <aldi1> rakib: ur welcome
[10:33] <lopin> We can't get it working in anything but ekiga, and I've NEVER gotten camorama to work...
[10:33] <lopin> EVERY
[10:33] <lopin> *EVER
[10:33] <kaminix> Dr_willis: That's a good start. However, I also have the problem with some applications not wanting to use the interface ones I bring them up. Any ideas?
[10:33] <rewati> dubby mic as output iec958 adcmux
[10:33] <guja_nebeska> aldi1, zvacet , lepo je videti da nas ima sa Balkana :o) Ja sam iz NS-a. Vi? :)
[10:33] <Dr_willis> kaminix,  i dont use wireless at all.. so Nope.
[10:33] <astro76> JPSman: you can look for info on the tv card with lspci
[10:33] <aldi1> SA
[10:33] <JPSman> astro76: thank you
[10:33] <aldi1> guja_nebeska: SA
[10:33] <dubby> rewati is everything checked?
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> San Antonio? :D
[10:34] <rewati> dubby is that wat are u talkin about
[10:34] <aldi1> RajvoSA
[10:34] <lopin> Anybody?
[10:34] <astro76> JPSman: as for drivers... it's either supported in the Linux kernel or not
[10:34] <kaminix> Dr_willis: I believe the problem would appear if you try to access the net through an alien wired interface as well.
[10:34] <rewati> dubby yes they are on
[10:34] <zvacet> guja_nebeska ZD
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> Bolje od San Antonija, definitivno :o)
[10:34] <MrFawkes> Did anyone else notice that urxvt's man pages are empty?
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> Aha, zvacet nam je komsa iz Hrvatske.
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> Kul. :o)
[10:34] <mahmad> hello gays
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> Okupili smo Jugu na kanalu.
[10:34] <guja_nebeska> :o)
[10:34] <ProN00b> can i somehow have ubuntu redo all the harddisk detection and setup and overwrite all potentially bad changes i did to files such as fstab and mtab ?
[10:35] <zvacet> guja_nebeska ne
[10:35] <aldi1> hej, necemo vise banovace nas - english only ;)
[10:35] <rewati> dubby now what to do?
[10:35] <guja_nebeska> Okejk, ingliš šel it bi. :D
[10:35] <rewati> dubby do u want to know my sound card
[10:35] <dubby> rewati might try reinstalling alsa
[10:36] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[10:36] <guja_nebeska> aldi1, zemljače, are you good with Ubuntu?
[10:36] <mahmad> sos sos  sos
[10:36] <rewati> dubby i tried that
[10:36] <aldi1> guja_nebeska: well, i know enought : how can i help
[10:36] <aldi1> *enogh
[10:36] <dubby> rewati: did you make sure the correct device is being used by alsa?
[10:36] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[10:36] <aldi1> *enough
[10:37] <rewati> ok how can i do that
[10:37] <dubby> maybe the two are on different devices, check the file>devices
[10:37] <rewati> dubby ok how can i do that
[10:37] <dubby> in the alsa mixer
[10:37] <dubby> file
[10:37] <guja_nebeska> aldi1, do you recive msgs on pvt?
[10:37] <dubby> change device
[10:37] <mahmad> soooossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:37] <mahmad> ssssssssoooooooooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:37] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, type ur problem.
[10:37] <guja_nebeska> Don't flood.
[10:38] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[10:38] <rewati> dubby in file tab i am gettin only quit option
[10:38] <mahmad> guja_nebeska a can not login to root
[10:38] <aldi1> guja_nebeska: i do
[10:38] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, great.
[10:38] <guja_nebeska> Go to system/users.
[10:39] <jussio1> !root | mahmad
[10:39] <ubotu> mahmad: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> Exactly System/Preferences/Users and Groups.
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> There u have root.
[10:39] <mahmad> guja_nebeska please help mi
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> Change password.
[10:39] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[10:39] <rewati> dubby in file tab i am gettin only quit option
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, listen man.
[10:39] <blindway> nass
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> R u with me?
[10:39] <jussio1> !supportroot | Gumby
[10:39] <ubotu> Gumby: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[10:39] <jussio1> !supportroot | guja_nebeska
[10:39] <ubotu> guja_nebeska: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[10:40] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[10:40] <bullgard4> What programs do evaluate the variable font-size?
[10:40] <guja_nebeska> What, only 3 people can help others here, and I can't cus I don't sleep on channel?
[10:40] <meh12312> hey
[10:40] <dubby> lopin Cheese?
[10:40] <meh12312> is ubuntu easy to install?
[10:40] <ChaosParser> meh12312: easier than win xp.
[10:40] <lopin> Okay...
[10:41] <lopin> dubby...  Gimme a sec...
[10:41]  * kindofabuzz gives lopin
[10:41] <adam__> meh12312, it seems so
[10:41] <kelvin911> meh12312: it's a lot easier than windows installation
[10:41] <leagris> Please help with sorting abnormally slow SATA http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63809/
[10:41] <guja_nebeska> jussi01, do u hear my question?
[10:41] <DOOM_NX> Question
[10:41] <mahmad> guja_nebeska I have not root ,  I install ubumtu to PC . comand  SU is not working
[10:41] <kelvin911> i wonder if the autoupdate server even got hack?
[10:42] <meh12312> I have a 500Mhz processor 192mb ram and 8gig space? will ubunutu work
[10:42] <kelvin911> meh12312: i think so
[10:42] <jussio1> guja_nebeska: as it says, _we_ dont support it. so you are the only one supporting it if you suggest it.
[10:42] <icesword> hoho
[10:42] <icesword> !hardware
[10:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[10:42] <ChaosParser> meh12312: Yes, though xubuntu will be faster
[10:42] <meh12312> ahh okay
[10:42] <DOOM_NX> can u remotely connect to a pc even if the user hasn't logged in?
[10:42] <guja_nebeska> jussi01, and what, man can't login as root, and you won't help him fix that problem?
[10:42] <mahmad> sssssssssooooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:42] <jussio1> mahmad: use sudo before a command to use that command as root.
[10:42] <icesword> meh12312, i recomend you try fluxbuntu
[10:43] <spas> DOOM_NX, ssh ?
[10:43] <icesword> mahmad, lost?
[10:43] <lopin> cheese can't a webcam...
[10:43] <jussio1> guja_nebeska: thats correct. sudo gives you all the privelidges you need.
[10:43] <guja_nebeska> Well, he has to set sudo pass somehow.
[10:43] <jussio1> mahmad: please dont do that
[10:43] <lopin> But, it's definitely on /dev/video0
[10:43] <guja_nebeska> If he doesn't know it.
 DOOM_NX, ssh ? -> vnc?
[10:44] <ProN00b> can i somehow have ubuntu redo all the harddisk detection and setup and overwrite all potentially bad changes i did to files such as fstab and mtab ?
[10:44] <jussio1> guja_nebeska: sudo password is the user password
[10:44] <guja_nebeska> Than tell him so.
[10:44] <jussio1> guja_nebeska: I did.
[10:44] <guja_nebeska> Type su -, password: user pass.
[10:44] <spas> DOOM_NX, try ssh -X and you will be able to run Xapps on that host
[10:44] <guja_nebeska> :o)
[10:44] <jussio1> guja_nebeska: if you need a root terminal, use sudo -i
[10:45] <guja_nebeska> But wait, why don't u suppor root stuff?
[10:45] <spas> DOOM_NX, it's not the same as VNC but will do
[10:45] <jussio1> !root | guja_nebeska
[10:45] <ubotu> guja_nebeska: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:45] <mahmad> jussio1 I wont login to root . root no working
[10:45] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, he won't tell you how to login as root.
[10:45] <guja_nebeska> Login as sudo.
[10:45] <guja_nebeska> I mean, do everything with sudo.
[10:45] <guja_nebeska> What do u want to do when u need root access?
[10:46] <jussio1> mahmad: login normally, then use sudo to get root as you need it
[10:46] <meh12312> Would I be able to get MSN Messenger on ubuntu or xbuntu?
[10:46] <lolfrenz> sudo su
[10:46] <dubby> lopin i don't know what special thing ekiga is doing.... but i would expect those to work so idk hopefully someone else here
[10:46] <kelvin911> meh12312: yes
[10:46] <DOOM_NX> spas, listen: I want to remotely connect via VNC to this PC. i will leave this pc unattended for 2 weeks. if there is a power cut, then it will reboot and be ready at login screen. if nobody logs in will i be able to vnc to it?
[10:46] <kelvin911> meh12312: pidgin
[10:46] <jussio1> !msn | meh12312
[10:46] <ubotu> meh12312: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[10:46] <slowlearner> meh12312: pidgin
[10:46] <guja_nebeska> meh12312, sudo app-get install pidgin
[10:46] <Cromag> i use amsn
[10:46] <kelvin911> meh12312: or amsn but amsn is buggy and slow
[10:46] <mahmad> guja_nebeska I dont no
[10:46] <guja_nebeska> meh12312, sudo apt-get install pidgin*
[10:47] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, why do u need root access?
[10:47] <Zylogue> I'm having an issue with the speakers on my HP laptop NOT muting, when I connect headphones...any suggestions or a link to look into?  thanks
[10:47] <kelvin911> meh12312: but amsn supports webcam
[10:47] <guja_nebeska> What do u want to doo as root?
[10:47] <icesword> !im
[10:47] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[10:47] <mahmad> guja_nebeska yes
[10:47] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, I see u don't quite understand my questions. What do u want to do as root? Do u want to install something, or what?
[10:48] <spas> DOOM_NX, dont know m8
[10:48] <mahmad> guja_nebeska do you speake Russia
[10:48] <jussio1> !ru | mahmad
[10:48] <ubotu> mahmad: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:48] <meh12312> can you install ubuntu through windows 200
[10:48] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, I speak serbian, but not russian. Go to ubuntu-ru if there's someone.
[10:48] <meh12312> windows 2000
[10:48] <spas> DOOM_NX, always VNCed after logged in...
[10:48] <kelvin911> meh12312: yes
[10:48] <meh12312> oo okay :)
[10:48] <meh12312> thank you kelvin
[10:49] <kelvin911> meh12312: u just need emptyspace
[10:49] <meh12312> yep :)
[10:49] <meh12312> ty
[10:49] <FloodBot1> meh12312: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <mahmad> ubotu thank
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <kelvin911> haha
[10:49] <icesword> mahmad, he is a bot
[10:49] <kelvin911> ubotu suck
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <icesword> kelvin911, go away
[10:50] <mahmad> guja_nebeska in ubuntu.ru is not information to root
[10:50] <Pupeno> Any simple GUI program, for my wife, that can turn an Ogg Vorbis into an MP?
[10:50] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, listen man. U WILL NOT GET information about logging as root on this channel.
[10:51] <guja_nebeska> You have to do everything with sudo.
[10:51] <jussio1> MadProcessor: #ubuntu-ru is the russian channel.
[10:51] <jussio1> gah
[10:51] <guja_nebeska> So tell me what do u want to do.
[10:51] <_Bart_> Hi,cansomebody tell me how I can open a shared folder (samba) with another username
[10:51] <spas> Pupeno, try soundconverter
[10:51] <slowlearner> !root | mahmad
[10:51] <ubotu> mahmad: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:51] <spas> Pupeno, into mp3 i guess?
[10:51] <ProN00b> can anyone tell me how i can clean all the crap out of fstab and mtab ?
[10:52] <kelvin911> i did change the root passowrd
[10:52] <kaminix> I have a problem. By adding commandline stuff in /etc/rc.local I've made my OS start my network interface automatically; however, KNetworkManager (a OpenSUSE app, I know) won't recognize the interface, Konqueror won't connect to the Internet and Kopete won't connect to the Internet. On a sidenot, Firefox also starts in offline mode.
[10:52] <Pupeno> spas: : yes.
[10:52] <slowlearner> protonchris: use an editor and delete the lines
[10:52] <mahmad> guja_nebeska where do you from?
[10:52] <spas> Pupeno, well soundconverter is a little slow an buggy, but has a nice graphical interface... just test it be4 showing ure wife :P
[10:52] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, if u have msn or gtalk account, type it, and i'll add u and explain everything to u.
[10:53] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, Serbia.
[10:53] <_Bart_> Can someone tell me how to open a shared folder (samba) with another username?
[10:54] <mahmad> guja_nebeska send my you addres msn please
[10:54] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, send you yours, mine is private.
[10:54] <guja_nebeska> i'll add u.
[10:54] <jaffarkelshac> add the username to authorised list _Bart_
[10:54] <leagris> Please help with solving abnormally slow SATA http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63809/
[10:54] <bullgard4> What programs do evaluate the variable font-size?
[10:55] <sCOTTo> hey guys - is there a way to upgrade debian linux 4.0 to Ubuntu? i am looking into thin clients right now and I am just trying to get my head around the,,,,
[10:55] <sCOTTo> them
[10:55] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: how do you mean? I want to do it from client side just as in windows
[10:55] <guja_nebeska> mahmad, I don't have time to wait, have to eat. Here's my msn, and add me. I'll be online in 10 minutes. guj4.n3b3sk4@live.com
[10:55] <guja_nebeska> Peace all.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> sCOTTo,  i doubt if that is a very goo didea.
[10:55] <n-iCe> Hello does anyone have installed the wiffi connection in a compaq pressario v311tla
[10:55] <Dr_willis> sCOTTo,  i doubt if that is a very good idea.
[10:56] <sCOTTo> Dr_willis: spose - it is being used for remote access in an office
[10:56] <sCOTTo> remote access to a MS Term Serv
[10:56] <JPSman> no
[10:56] <sCOTTo> ok
[10:56] <sCOTTo> :)
[10:56] <mahmad> guja_nebeska ok
[10:56] <sCOTTo> ok so what will do teh job just to go into MS Term Serv?
[10:57] <Dr_willis> sCOTTo,   You can use ubuntu and make thin clients i guess.. but i have never messed with MS Term Serv. (whatever that is)
[10:57] <n-iCe> Hello does anyone have installed the wiffi connection in a compaq pressario v311tla
[10:57] <Dr_willis> I tend to do Linux to linux type stuff.
[10:57] <sCOTTo> Dr_willis: MS Terminal Services - remote desktop...
[10:57] <sCOTTo> Dr_willis: I dont blame you :)
[10:58] <sCOTTo> thanks guys
[10:58] <cwraig> hi all , is using smbfs in fstab still the best way to mount a samba share localy?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> cwraig,  i use the fusesmb tool these days a lot.
[10:59] <Dr_willis> cwraig,  depends on your needs I guess. :)
[10:59] <Lehan> Hello guys!Need some help.I want to install Ubuntu on 38 gb disk D.I need help with making partitions
[10:59] <ChaosParser> sCOTTo: For thin clients, try DRBL + LTSP.
[11:00] <cwraig> Dr_willis, thanks ill have a look at it
[11:00] <jaffarkelshac> _Bart_, you still there? so when you try to access the shared folder it askes for password?
[11:00] <Dr_willis> cwraig,  check out the ubuntu fusesmb wiki page also. (or was it smbfuse)
[11:00] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: no it loggs in as guest
[11:00] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: so I don't have write rights
[11:00] <newbieu> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing.
[11:01] <newbieu> i get this error
[11:01] <newbieu> when testing my mic
[11:01] <jaffarkelshac> add the main user, sudo smbpasswd -a user and enter password, so when you access it next time you use that user and pass _Bart_
[11:01] <n-iCe> !bcm43xx
[11:01] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:01] <GIn> how do you run an mp3 streaming server? any open source software that can stream mp3? I know about shoutcast but it's closed source
[11:01] <sCOTTo> ChaosParser: the machines i am looking at already have os on them - they are complete.... i just wanted to know the minimum spec for one to work ok with MSTSC connections to a windows server :)
[11:02] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: so I need to do that every time I connect to another pc
[11:02] <Dr_willis> !info icecast
[11:02] <ubotu> Package icecast does not exist in gutsy
[11:03] <dubby> lol
[11:03] <slowlearner> !gnump3d
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnump3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Dr_willis> GIn,   icecast-server - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server
[11:04] <jaffarkelshac> _Bart_, I am not sure i am explaining well, you are sharing your file from ubuntu, so setup username access for samba so when you connect from any pc, you use that user and pass you setup
[11:04] <kelvin911> remote desktop?
[11:05] <kelvin911> sCOTTo: u wanna setup remote desktop?
[11:05] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: Ubuntu is the client not the server ;)
[11:05] <jaffarkelshac> i see _Bart_ , which is the server xp?
[11:05] <sCOTTo> kelvin911: i have it running on a clients server.... they just asked for another desktop to remote into.... i am wondering if a thinclient will do it?
[11:05] <starscalling> arg
[11:06] <starscalling> i'm getting errors on a preremove script and i need to force overwrite everything
[11:06] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: The server is win xp
[11:06] <starscalling> dpkg --force-overwrite --install /var/cache/apt/archives/proftpd_1.3.0-9~dapper1_i386.deb is not working
[11:06] <starscalling> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/proftpd not found.
[11:06] <starscalling> ; ;
[11:07] <kelvin911> so u wanna run remote control another desktop from the one u connect to?
[11:08] <jaffarkelshac> you can add users for that too, open explorer, view > and look through the list and un tick simply share, the right click the shared folder and under permissions add users allowed
[11:08] <jaffarkelshac> _Bart_, up
[11:09] <rothchild> hi how do I stop my samba shares appearing on the gnome desktop?
[11:09] <jaffarkelshac> _Bart_, sorry tools folder options view
[11:09] <bullgard4> What programs do evaluate the variable font-size?
[11:09] <pjvwork> what's a good sysinfo app to use on a desktop?
[11:09] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: that is server side?
[11:10] <jaffarkelshac> disable mount to desktop rothchild "gconf-editor"
[11:10] <jaffarkelshac> xp, _Bart_
[11:10] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: yes, but I don't have access to the XP server. I need to do it client side @ ubuntu
[11:10] <sCOTTo> kelvin911: NO, i HAVE a windows 2003 server with terminal services on it, I have to remote into a server sitting in a secure datacenter on a phat net connection.... I am wondering how cheap i can go on the thin client - and if I do use a thin client with deb 4.0 will it have the prog i need to remote into the server....
[11:11] <sCOTTo> -- sorry about the caps...
[11:11] <n-iCe> has been the 8 ubuntu version released?
[11:11] <jaffarkelshac> rothchild, apps>nautilus>desktop untick volume visible
[11:13] <spas> !laptop_mode
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptop_mode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <jaffarkelshac> _Bart_, then who ever has access to the Xp server should allow access for the user you are using. there is not much you can do from client side if permission is denied on xp
[11:13] <rothchild> thanks jaffarkelshac
[11:13] <jaffarkelshac> np
[11:14] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: I have an username and password to login but where can I enter it?
[11:15] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: I need an "enter your username and password" dialog
[11:15] <jaffarkelshac> you need to disable the simple sharing on xp then _Bart_
[11:15] <jaffarkelshac> and add the username and password you have to the permission list
[11:16] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: I allready HAVE my own username and password BUT they are NOT the same as my ubuntu username and password
[11:16] <starscalling> hahaha
[11:16] <rothchild> looks like I stopped by at just the right moment, is this a samba workshop? (what a pita!)
[11:16] <lopin> But, it's definitely on /dev/video0
[11:17] <lopin> Need help getting a webcam working in anything but ekiga.  Works fine in ekiga, but nothing else
[11:17] <starscalling> great way to go: when a package is complaining about missing something so it cant exit remove instlal configure, etc download the deb and extract the darn file you need :P
[11:17] <Dr_willis> _Bart_,  you may want to check out that  'fusesmb' tool  - it lets you mount Samba shares with  diffretn usernames/passwords read from a config file.
[11:17] <|Debian|> how can i get wine installed. it's no in apt-get .... and when i open the .deb ... nothing happens
[11:18] <Dr_willis> !wine
[11:18] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[11:18] <_Bart_> Dr_willis: Ok, let's try
[11:18] <Starnestommy> |Debian|: do you have the universe repository enabled in System > Preferences > Software Sources?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> _Bart_,  thers a wiki page on it also.. Its a handy tool
[11:18] <jaffarkelshac> by default xp does not have dialogbox for file sharing, because its in simple sharing mode, to be able to use username and password disable simple sahing on xp _Bart_
[11:19] <_Bart_> jaffarkelshac: my windows does have a dialogbox by default
[11:19] <Dr_willis> _Bart_,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[11:20] <n3o> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:20] <ac3> anyone uses virtualbox-ose with bridge networking in hardy? This works when i use static ip´s inside the virtual hosts, but not with dhcp. (i do have a dhcp server on my lan, and dhclient br0 works just fine)
[11:21] <n-iCe> How to make work my wireless in a compaq V311TLA?
[11:21] <ProN00b> does anyone know how i can automatically let ubuntu recreate fstab and mtab ?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> you normally dont need to mess with the mtab.
[11:21] <Dr_willis> as for the fstab.. well..  not sureof a tool that can do that.
[11:22] <brad016> do you run commands on a remote FTP server?
[11:22] <nael> n-iCe:  what chipset does you laptop have?
[11:22] <n-iCe> nael Broadcom 4311
[11:22] <nael> oh fun
[11:23] <nael> ok you would need to use ndiswrapper
[11:24] <tomolds> Hi, Is there a way to run the display settings dialog that is in KDE from the terminal? (I have X, but have just lost half my screen since am configuring dual screens). I want to change res
[11:25] <Dr_willis> tomolds,  kcontrol i think is its name from the terminal for ALL the config tools..
[11:25] <nael> n-iCe: this might help you
[11:25] <nael> http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4492565
[11:25] <Dr_willis> tomolds,  not sure of th specific one for the display tool however,
[11:26] <guja_nebeska> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:26] <guja_nebeska>  (this is what I get when trying to start Skype from terminal. I have installed it on 64bit Ubuntu 7.10) Any suggestions?
[11:27] <JohnMM> !hardy
[11:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:27] <Don64> !realplayer
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <|Debian|> Don64 VLC =)
[11:29] <Don64> ???
[11:29] <|Debian|> Plays realplayer files
[11:29] <kelvin911> i have a question, is it safe to defrag NTFS in ubuntu with gparted?
[11:30] <Don64> i downloaded the new realplayer 11..
[11:30] <guja_nebeska>  (this is what I get when trying to start Skype from terminal. I have installed it on 64bit Ubuntu 7.10) Any suggestions?
[11:30] <|Debian|> kelvin911 how come you can't do it through windows ?
[11:30] <guja_nebeska> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:30] <kelvin911> VLC can play realplayer how?
[11:30] <kelvin911> i am too lazy to boot back into windows
[11:30] <Don64> and installed it and it doesn't play with firefox
[11:30] <|Debian|> kelvin911 well stop being so lazy
[11:31] <Don64> realplayer 10 worked ok before i uninstalled for 11.
[11:31] <Don64> any ideas on how to make this work for fiesty
[11:31] <kelvin911> do u guys find that divx movies are smoother when it is playing in windows then in ubuntu?
[11:32] <Speedy> kelvin911,  no
[11:32] <Helsu> Azureus keeps crashing in my Ubuntu (x64) instllation. Any idea why?
[11:33] <lopin> We change one freakin line in xorg.conf, and ruin the whole kernel!
[11:33] <kelvin911> i dont know why seem like VLC player in windows is better than in ubuntu
[11:33] <lopin> load "extmod"
[11:33] <Speedy> kelvin911,  i've not noticed it to be better in windows
[11:33] <kelvin911> at least the audio sound better in windows
[11:33] <Speedy> set your preferences to make it play via X11
[11:33] <lopin> And, then, we change it back!
[11:33] <kelvin911> video output set to X11?
[11:33] <Speedy> yeah
[11:33] <lopin> Now, the sound card is gone, the video drivers are gone...
[11:34] <lopin> Wireless is trying to disappear...
[11:34] <lopin> Please, explain this logic to me...
[11:34] <kelvin911> what was the default output?
[11:34] <Speedy> Settings -> Preferences -> Video -> Output modules
[11:34] <Speedy> and select X11 Video Output.    << kelvin911
[11:34] <kelvin911> in vlc
[11:34] <kelvin911> does it use x11 or opengl?
[11:35] <Helsu> http://no.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:35] <Helsu> Am I downloading from the Ubuntu servers or somewhere in my country now?
[11:35] <Speedy> kelvin911, X11
[11:36] <Speedy> for vlc anyway
[11:36] <|Debian|> helsu .... download the minimal cd
[11:36] <DOOM_NX> question
[11:36] <Helsu> what?
[11:36] <kelvin911> still not good
[11:36] <icesword> Helsu, no?
[11:36] <Helsu> ok
[11:36] <|Debian|> simple installer ... just takes a bit longer to to install becuase of download
[11:36] <|Debian|> !minimal
[11:36] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:36] <DOOM_NX> if i need to connect through SSH to another Ubuntu system using an RSA key, what do i do?
[11:36] <icesword> !o
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <icesword> !no
[11:36] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[11:36] <kelvin911> i dont know how to explain it
[11:36] <Helsu> because i selected a mirror in norway
[11:36] <Helsu> i pressed download, yet it doesn't download from my mirror.
[11:37] <|Debian|> live cd's suck. helsu
[11:37] <kelvin911> sometimes the video is like it splits
[11:37] <Speedy> kelvin911, what video card you using?
[11:37] <DOOM_NX> do i just copy the key to /home/username/.ssh?
[11:37] <kelvin911> geforce 7600 GT
[11:37] <Helsu> Debian: Non user-friendlyness sucks.
[11:37] <kelvin911> it doesnt happen in windows
[11:37] <sCOTTo> Speedy: where yah from?
[11:37] <Speedy> maybe a driver problem?
[11:37] <|Debian|> Helsu use the minimal cd
[11:37] <|Debian|> trust me
[11:37] <Speedy> nvidia have always sucked balls
[11:38] <Speedy> sCOTTo, uk
[11:38] <sCOTTo> nice :)
[11:38] <Helsu> I don't see any reason why.
[11:38] <Helsu> I have a good connection, and a good computer.
[11:38] <sCOTTo> i once had a friend called speedy.... he started me on linux?
[11:38] <sCOTTo> :)
[11:38] <kelvin911> ???
[11:38] <kelvin911> nvidia sucks balls?
[11:38] <|Debian|> helsu doesn't make a difference about the connection. just have more control over what's installed ect.
[11:39] <|Debian|> Speedy LOL
[11:39] <Speedy> sCOTTo, awesome, i think alot of people use the name speedy, which is pretty annoying as it's my nickname, every where i go its already registerd, hah
[11:39] <kelvin911> dont tell me ati is better
[11:39] <sCOTTo> hehehe
[11:39] <Speedy> never had a problem with ati and linux
[11:39] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone else getting an "unexpected installation error" when trying to install Firefox addons?
[11:39] <Speedy> even with the high definition drivers
[11:39] <sCOTTo> bbl
[11:39] <Helsu> Debian I will just uinstall everything I don't need anyway because I will use a graphical server (laugh all you want) through Synapti
[11:39] <ChaosTheory^> Can someone please check?
[11:40] <|Debian|> Helsu you don't make sense. quite idiotic really.
[11:40] <Helsu> I'm just installing it to vmware anyway because i need to see whether azureus crashes in 32-bit as well
[11:40] <kelvin911> which mediaplayer is the best for ubuntu?
[11:40] <kelvin911> for playing divx?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  about any of them can play divx just fine
[11:41] <kelvin911> i always love vlc but is there better software?
[11:41] <Speedy> he's having problems with divx
[11:41] <Dr_willis> it all depends on what othe rfetures you like, - I tend to use gmplayer
[11:41] <|Debian|> Helsu why install Ubuntu on an unstable OS like Windows ?
[11:41] <icesword> mhm?
[11:41] <Speedy> Helsu,  consider using a client that isnt the bloatware known as azerus
[11:42] <|Debian|> P2P is horrible
[11:42] <Speedy> i agree
[11:42] <Speedy> p2p is nasty
[11:42] <Speedy> well... sometimes
[11:42] <|Debian|> it just is
[11:42] <Speedy> for legal purposes i dont torrenting
[11:42] <|Debian|> full of crap
[11:42] <Speedy> **dont mind
[11:42] <|Debian|> private torrents ftw.
[11:42] <kelvin911> i find that azerus is prety good
[11:42] <Bogaurd> I am using a pci sata controller in my system, but drives are being detected in bootup *AFTER* raid arrays are being started, so not all drives are present in the raid arrays. how can I force this detection to occur earlier?
[11:43] <kelvin911> i can get 800KB/s dl 30KB/s ul with it
[11:43] <Helsu> Speedy I have no choise because it is the only one for Linux with a decent WebUI.
[11:43] <Speedy> kelvin911,  yeah but you also like nvidia so what does that say abouy you :D
[11:43] <kelvin911> games seem to be better with nvidia cards
[11:43] <Speedy> lol
[11:43]  * Dr_willis cant help but wonder what webui has to do with linux..
[11:44] <Dr_willis> but im half asleep.. :) so might of missed somthing.
[11:44] <|Debian|> p2p sucks full stop.
[11:44] <Helsu> I am going to use this desktop as a server
[11:44] <Dr_willis> |Debian|,  people who say things suck suck, :)  heh heh..
[11:44] <|Debian|> i hope an police peer catches you =)
[11:44] <kelvin911> it's not all divx plays bad
[11:44] <|Debian|> and reports you to ISP
[11:44] <|Debian|> and get a nice fat fine ! =D
[11:45] <kelvin911> just one or few that plays not so good in vlc in ubuntu but they are fine in windows
[11:45] <PaulMooney> I love hardy heron
[11:45] <PaulMooney> just thought I'd say tha.t
[11:45] <JPSman> what can I do with a NEC Corporation Dual Tuner/MPEG Encoder ?
[11:45] <|Debian|> PaulMooney thanks =)
[11:45] <banditul> where can i modify boot sequence ? what file
[11:45] <Dr_willis> banditul,  depends on what you want to modify
[11:45] <Helsu> so you're against ubuntu p2p downloads as well?
[11:45] <banditul> i can't see win xp on it ....after upgrade to 8.04
[11:45] <Dr_willis> !upstart
[11:45] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:46] <PaulMooney> Yessir.  Gutsy hated my t60 hardware.  hardy is solid and STILL BETA
[11:46] <|Debian|> Helsu yes.
[11:46] <Speedy> banditul, grub.conf
[11:47] <kelvin911> whats wrong with p2p?
[11:47] <|Debian|> what's not
[11:47] <|Debian|> it's crawling with the feds for a start
[11:47] <kelvin911> its the greatest thing invented
[11:47] <tomolds_> I have installed the nvidia driver and wish to get higher resolutions which I know my monitor supports since I had it going with the 'nv' driver before. How should I do this? Adding them to the xorg.conf doesn't seem to work for this one. Max still appears as 1024x768. Thanks
[11:47] <Speedy> tomolds, sounds like you need a modeline
[11:48] <tomolds_> Speedy: Added but still doesn't appear
[11:48] <Speedy> tomolds, paste the modeline
[11:48] <norbbi> Test
[11:48] <tomolds_> modeline "1920x1200@60" 193.16 1920 2048 2256 2592 1200 1201 1204 1242 -hsync +vsync
[11:49] <Sturmeh> rawr
[11:49] <Sturmeh> !
[11:49] <Speedy> looks good to me, must be a driver problem then.... where did you get the modeline from anyway?
[11:49] <tomolds_> Speedy: Found it on the net somewhere
[11:49] <Speedy> best thing to do it, GET ATI haha. erm.... search google with the make of your card
[11:50] <Speedy> *to do is
[11:50] <AlexQ> Hi. I want to install flash on AMD64 Ubuntu 7.10, but the package 'flashplugin-nonfree' doesn't work becouse 'nspluginwrapper' package doesn't install correctly and I think there also would be problem with the md5sum of Flash from Adobe. So, I need to install flash correctly, but when I am compiling  'nspluginwrapper' using make, I got an error: '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsupc++'. What I have to do?
[11:50] <tomolds_> Speedy: lol so I have been told by many
[11:51] <Speedy> sorry i cant really help you with resolution problems outside of ati or intel chipsets
[11:51] <Helsu> why is is still called amd64 when intel has 64-bit too now?
[11:51] <Speedy> Helsu,  yes it is
[11:51] <Speedy> for some strange reason
[11:51] <Helsu> maybe amd64 is lighter ^^
[11:51] <cyberagent> Helsu, do you have g++ 3.4(or higher) installed
[11:51] <Helsu> "phenom edition"
[11:51] <Sturmeh> it's amd64 cuz they had some stupid idea ages ago
[11:51] <Sturmeh> which fails
[11:51] <Helsu> I don't know what g++ is.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> amd got  popular first. :)
[11:52] <Speedy> g++ is a compiler for compiling C and C++ code
[11:52] <cyberagent> Helsu, install it.
[11:52] <OsamaK> Hello, could someone see this image <http://osamakm.googlepages.com/Screenshot-media-FileBrowser.png>, this is my media folder. I have an external hard-disk that uses NFST filesystem. Fpr some reasons, I have too many icons for it even it ejected! What to do?
[11:52] <rose> hey guys, my nvidia driver won't stick - i keep installing it, and on reboot, it just doesn't work (hardy)
[11:52] <Sturmeh> yea Dr_willis but it's like calling ur kid some "cute name"
[11:52] <Sturmeh> they are going to grow up
[11:52] <Speedy> Dr_willis, with 64 bit that is ture, but in general not
[11:52] <Speedy> *true
[11:53] <Dr_willis> Sturmeh,   gee..  like all the Ubuntu ANimal names? :)
[11:53] <cyberagent> OsamaK, empty file browser cache
[11:53] <Sturmeh> hahaha
[11:53] <Sturmeh> that's different
[11:53] <norbbi> #ubuntu-classroom
[11:53] <cyberagent> OsamaK, empty file browser cache - sync- un - mount - ...
[11:53] <OsamaK> cyberagent: How to?
[11:54] <cyberagent> OsamaK, log out and login, but be sure to sync and  unmount first
[11:54] <Helsu> why does it whine that my list is out of date in add/remove? i don't think there have been drastic changes since the last time i viewed it, 5 minutes ago.
[11:54] <Helsu> cyberagent: How will it help?
[11:54] <AlexQ> Hi. I want to install flash on AMD64 Ubuntu 7.10, but the package 'flashplugin-nonfree' doesn't work becouse 'nspluginwrapper' package doesn't install correctly and I think there also would be problem with the md5sum of Flash from Adobe. So, I need to install flash correctly, but when I am compiling  'nspluginwrapper' using make, I got an error: '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsupc++'. What I have to do?
[11:55] <rose> install a 32bit browser
[11:55] <OsamaK> cyberagent: I think I tried that before, but I'll try..
[11:55] <cyberagent> Helsu, g++ has special libstdc++ features.
[11:55] <Sturmeh> whats the benifit of using a 64bit OS
[11:55] <Sturmeh> is it really that big?
[11:55] <spelling> when is the next ubuntu relase date
[11:55] <rose> Sturmeh: in theory it would be faster
[11:56] <rose> spelling, a few days
[11:56] <Adys> how do I add a new user from the commandline?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Sturmeh,  for most people..very little gain. and often a whole lot of pain
[11:56] <spelling> rose a few days means a few years?
[11:56] <Sturmeh> rose but is it worth the "hassle" involved with looking for 64bit versions of everything?
[11:56] <Starnestommy> Adys: sudo adduser new-user-name
[11:56] <Helsu> cyberagent: How will that benefit me?
[11:56] <rose> probably not
[11:56] <Adys> spelling:  www.ubuntu.com its on the frontpage
[11:56] <Sturmeh> and it only benifits the cpu right?
[11:56] <Speedy> adys adduser?
[11:56] <Adys> Starnestommy:  thanks
[11:56] <cyberagent> Helsu, listen i'm not your wikipedia.
[11:56] <rose> spelling, it comes out in 4 days
[11:56] <banditul> how can i see what is the name of the second hdd ( where win is installed) ?
[11:56] <cyberagent> Helsu, if you don't want to do it, then don't. ;)
[11:56] <rose> this isn't msft
[11:57] <Helsu> Ok this is what I meant, will it solve my Azureus problem?
[11:57] <rose> Helsu, huh? which problem?
[11:57] <Helsu> Azureus crashes
[11:58] <rose> get something better? =]
[11:58] <peura> azureus sucks
[11:58] <unop> banditul, sudo fdisk -l
[11:58] <AlexQ> rose: But I don't want... I also have to generate the plugin-file x** or sth for mozilla ff, but I can't run Adobe Flash installer on my 64bit system, of course, even if I have got a 32 Firefox installed. So, why the nspluginwrapper doesn't installs correctly (without some files or sth)? And what I have to do to compile nspluginwrapper myself?
[11:58] <Helsu> Again, there is no decent BitTorrent client for Linux with a good WebUI but Azureus.
[11:58] <Starnestommy> AlexQ: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:58] <spelling> hey will opengeu come out same day the new ubuntu is released?
[11:59] <rose> helsu: deluge, ktorrent?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Helsu,  personally i much perfer the ktorrent webui.. but it suites my needs. :P
[11:59] <peura> can i update my beta version of ubuntu for 64bit ubuntu without losing all my data?
[11:59] <GIn> Helsu: Deluge is a decent client
[11:59] <AlexQ> Starnestommy: 7.10
[11:59] <rose> spelling, dunno
[11:59] <AlexQ> Starnestommy: AMD64 version
[11:59] <spelling> rose acn't there be a early version be found? are ubntu community excited about this release
[11:59] <peura> ye
[11:59] <GIn> Helsu: but if u only need a web UI, then I suggest torrentflux
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Helsu,  java and 64bit - can be an issue.
[11:59] <Starnestommy> AlexQ: nspluginwrapper works fine on my amd64 system
[11:59] <rose> spelling, i'm using it now
[11:59] <peura> okay ill stay in 32bit because i dont need 64 bit, it was bit faster tho
[11:59] <spelling> rose where did you find it
[12:00] <rose> spelling: the ubuntu website
[12:00] <spelling> it says release candidate
[12:00] <spelling> wtf is that
[12:00] <rose> google it
[12:00] <rose> really
[12:00] <OsamaK> Didn't help..
[12:00] <rose> i have other problems
[12:01] <meh12312> hey i neeed some serious advice.
[12:01] <meh12312> About ubuntu :)
[12:01] <Helsu> very well, i'll look into deluge and ktorrent.
[12:01] <Sturmeh> about what about unbuntu
[12:01] <Helsu> torrentflux looks shit to be honest.
[12:01] <meh12312> Well, i am going to install it on one of my super old old old old computers, but I have wireless internet
[12:01] <meh12312> Belkin G.
[12:01] <meh12312> Will it work with ubuntu
[12:01] <rose> helsu, what desktop manager are you using?
[12:01] <Sturmeh> does it meet the minimun requirements?
[12:01] <meh12312> Yes.
[12:01] <jussio1> !ohmy | Helsu
[12:01] <ubotu> Helsu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:01] <Sturmeh> boot up the live cd
[12:01] <Sturmeh> shouldn't be any problems if that loads
[12:01] <GIn> Helsu: the "look" of fluxtorent is a matter of theming :\
[12:02] <Sturmeh> but you might want to research wireless internet
[12:02] <meh12312> Will Belkin G wireless adapter work
[12:02] <mare1> Hello, can anyone help me to fix broken Ubuntu (Grub Error 17) ?
[12:02] <Starnestommy> spelling: it means that it's almost ready for a release, but it needs a little testing to make sure that it's ready
[12:02] <icesword> lol
[12:02] <meh12312> whats the live cd?
[12:02] <Sturmeh> apparently it's not so great with ubuntu to setup
[12:02] <Helsu> gnome, i also have xubuntu but i couldn't get apps to autostart there.
[12:02] <GIn> Helsu: torrentflux uses rtorrent which is very light to run
[12:02] <rose> Helsu, what desktop manager ar you using?
[12:02] <mastranzio> hi @ll
[12:02] <OsamaK> cyberagent: Didn't help..
[12:02] <Sturmeh> meh12312 when you install ubuntu, you usually do it by booting ubuntu off a cd, then isntalling it
[12:02] <meh12312> i am going too download Ubuntu, and burn onto a cd
[12:02] <meh12312> yeh
[12:02] <toogreen> hi there, anyone else had their wifi stopped working after upgrading to Hardy?
[12:02] <GIn> meh12312:  google for Belkin G wireless ubuntu
[12:02] <meh12312> buokay
[12:02] <meh12312> okay
[12:03] <AlexQ> Starnestommy: But in my case it doesnt - if I want to install any plugin, manualy or using flashplugin-nonfree, it returns 1 exit code and also an error text that one of the files needed by it doesn't exist. What's up? I tryied to reinstall it many times, removing with --purge etc.
[12:03] <toogreen> Hardy doesn't even see my wifi card at all
[12:03] <Helsu> Deluge looks spendid, I'll try it now. :)
[12:03] <OsamaK> meh12312: next version will be ready on 24th of April..
[12:03] <toogreen> whereas it worked without setup on Gutsy
[12:03] <mastranzio> sometimes my audio loop! have any idea?
[12:03] <Helsu> rose: I am testing Ubuntu in VMware now, but I also have an Xubuntu on the actual server but I gave up on it.
[12:03] <spelling> Starnestommy is there a chane it will find more bugs?
[12:03] <Starnestommy> spelling: possibly
[12:03] <OsamaK> meh12312: you may want to wait?
[12:03] <rose> deluge is fine
[12:04] <rose> in 8.04 transmission is standatd
[12:04] <jussio1> toogreen: #ubuntu+1 for hardy help :)
[12:04] <toogreen> I think my card is an Atheros.. the brand is TP-Link tho
[12:04] <GIn> toogreen: probably needs driver,
[12:04] <toogreen> jussi01, thanks
[12:04] <GIn> toogreen: try ndiswrapper
[12:04] <OsamaK> meh12312: Anyway.. Ubuntu 7.10 will be supported until 2009
[12:04] <spelling> Starnestommy hmm when will 8.04 opengeu be relased?
[12:04] <toogreen> GIn, thanks
[12:05] <meh12312> 0smak wait for wat?
[12:05] <rose> spelling: just google it
[12:05] <OsamaK> meh12312: For next version.. 3 days left..
[12:05] <GIn> counting :)
[12:05] <spelling> Starnestommy why are free ubuntu so eager to relase it's best software for free? and who coordinates the ubuntu distro beefore releaseing from volunteering anorund the world? do they talk on the phone? is there a ubuntu lab or office?
[12:06] <meh12312> hmm yeh :) i am just worrited about my belkin g wireless usb adapter
[12:06] <meh12312> cause i cant manually run the wire (ethernet) to my computer
[12:06] <meh12312> cause like it'll take ages.
[12:06] <meh12312> hmm
[12:06] <Sturmeh> spelling live support is not free
[12:06] <Sturmeh> as in phone support
[12:06] <Starnestommy> irc support is
[12:06] <Sturmeh> you can come here or forums for free
[12:06] <Sturmeh> yea
[12:06] <rose> spelling: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory
[12:06] <OsamaK> could someone see this image <http://osamakm.googlepages.com/Screenshot-media-FileBrowser.png>, this is my media folder. I have an external hard-disk that uses NFST filesystem. Fpr some reasons, I have too many icons for it even it ejected! What to do?
[12:06] <GIn> or call canonical
[12:06] <Sturmeh> yeah read that spelling
[12:07] <spelling> Sturmeh where do i get life support
[12:07] <GIn> OsamaK: lol, u backup pr0n too? :D
[12:08] <it_rains> is there anybody using integrated ATI SB soundcard?
[12:08] <Helsu> Deluge doesn't seem to have the webui plugin anymore
[12:08] <mastranzio> sometimes my audio loops how can I fix this problem?
[12:08] <unop> GIn, this is a family-friendly channel, pretend you have your 8 year old niece watching :)
[12:08] <banditul> i have 2 hdd : sda1 - ubuntu and sdb1 - win ....but i see on grub menu.lst title           Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
[12:08] <banditul> root            (hd0,0)
[12:08] <banditul>  . How to put 2nd hdd ( windows) on boot manager ?
[12:08] <OsamaK> gin: What do you mean?
[12:08] <Sturmeh> spellinghttp://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[12:08] <GIn> OsamaK: was a joke :P
[12:08] <Sturmeh> spelling http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[12:08] <Sturmeh> sorry
[12:08] <GIn> Helsu: it has, it is a plugin, u have to enable it
[12:08] <OsamaK> Well. can you help. gin?
[12:08] <sperry201> can someone help me install my Nvidia Geforce 6200 GPU?
[12:08] <AlexQ> I want to install flash on AMD64 Ubuntu 7.10, but the package 'flashplugin-nonfree' doesn't work becouse 'nspluginwrapper' package doesn't install correctly and I think there also would be problem with the md5sum of Flash from Adobe. So, I need to install flash manually, but when I am compiling  'nspluginwrapper' using make, I got an error: '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsupc++'. What I have to do?
[12:08] <spelling> how is ubuntu any different from debian it is a liek a clone
[12:09] <mare1> Can anyone help me to fix broken Ubuntu (Grub Error 17) ?
[12:09] <Helsu> Gin: I know, but it isnt' in the plugin list.
[12:09] <GIn> Helsu: how did u install Deluge?
[12:09] <Helsu> add/remove
[12:09] <GIn> Helsu: try the newwer version from their website. it works perfect
[12:09] <spelling> what if i get banned from live support for misbehaving?
[12:09] <pcman> help! My apt-get update doesn't work correctly.
[12:09] <meh12312> I dont think ubuntu is the right choice for, (I wont be able to get micrsoft office to work, or my wireless adapter, so theirs the internet gone, Adobe photoshop, Macromedia fireworks/flash/dreamweaver) None of these programs will go on :( oh well :'(
[12:10] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[12:10] <spelling> Sturmeh what if i get banned from live support for misbehaving?
[12:10] <pcman> Some packages are already updated on the repo, but apt-get update doesn't get the updates.
[12:10] <mastranzio> sometimes my audio loops how can I fix this problem?
[12:10] <pcman> New package list cannot be gotten.
[12:10] <w1_> ruben
[12:10] <Sturmeh> spelling what? this is paid phone support, I don't think the'll care aslong as you've paid lol
[12:10] <GIn> OsamaK: with what can I help you ?>
[12:10] <OsamaK> could someone see this image <http://osamakm.googlepages.com/Screenshot-media-FileBrowser.png>, this is my media folder. I have an external hard-disk that uses NFST filesystem. Fpr some reasons, I have too many icons for it even it ejected! What to do?
[12:11] <spelling> Sturmeh but i might paid too little ? they want more? and irc support like these channel is tehre a single person who would buy live support for a asshole distro?
[12:11] <it_rains> my laptop(compaq b1906tu) has no sound!
[12:11] <sperry201> some one help install Nvidia Geforce 6200?
[12:11] <it_rains> anybody knows why?
[12:12] <GIn> OsamaK: what ubuntu version?
[12:12] <Ax-Ax> hello
[12:12] <unop> spelling, language
[12:12] <Sturmeh> spelling ???
[12:12] <GIn> where are the ops?
[12:12] <it_rains> i've tried almost everything on the internet!
[12:12] <AlexQ> I want to install flash on AMD64 Ubuntu 7.10, but the package 'flashplugin-nonfree' doesn't work becouse 'nspluginwrapper' package doesn't install correctly and I think there also would be problem with the md5sum of Flash from Adobe. So, I need to install flash manually, but when I am compiling  'nspluginwrapper' using make, I got an error: '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsupc++'. What I have to do?
[12:12] <Sturmeh> GIn just a bot
[12:12] <spelling> why you looking for ops
[12:12] <OsamaK> gin: Beta 8.04 up-to-date
[12:13] <GIn> it_rains: gtfo
[12:13] <Shepherd> Unacceptable language obviously
[12:13] <Sturmeh> stop repeating question AlexQ
[12:13] <it_rains> what is gtfo?
[12:13] <toogreen> Ok i installed ndiswrapper which looks like it might work, but may I just ask why would I need to use windows drivers for this when it worked fine under gutsy with open source drivers?
[12:13] <Sturmeh> ask in ubuntu forums if noone here can help you
[12:13] <GIn> OsamaK: then you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <jussio1> !flash64 | AlexQ
[12:13] <ubotu> AlexQ: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:13] <mastranzio> sometimes my audio loops how can I fix this problem?
[12:13] <phoenix_> anybody know how large the package repos are at this point?
[12:13] <OsamaK> ok thax
[12:14] <AlexQ> jussio1: OK, thanks.
[12:14] <GIn> toogreen: hardy is still beta..  but whoc ares if it works? ;)
[12:14] <toogreen> I installed the windows driver into ndiswrapper now but then what do i need to do.. reboot?
[12:14] <owen1> guys, i love xubuntu! it's like gnome but faster.
[12:14] <jussio1> toogreen: please use #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[12:14] <Ax-Ax> i have a icecat folder, and it runs alright, but i don't want it in my home folder. what is a good place for moving the contens to?
[12:14] <GIn> toogreen: configure your network?
[12:14] <GIn> System -> Admin -> Networking
[12:15] <bullgard4> My GNOME terminal renders the letters blurred. But GNOME displays all menu items crisp. Changing to other fonts does not help. Rendering=Monochrome. How to troubleshoot?
[12:16] <GIn> bullgard4: on  the font preference window , try  diffeent rendering method.
[12:16] <GIn> bullgard4: and use a bigger font size
[12:17] <axion> hello, anyone in here ?
[12:17] <GIn> axion: nope :P
[12:17] <axion> hi GIn
[12:17] <bullgard4> GIn: Using a bigger font size is reactionary. You will not hamper me progressing.
[12:17] <ce> malang
[12:18] <axion> I have been using hardy for a week or so..
[12:18] <it_rains> please! i've tried almost everything on the internet but, my laptop can't make any sound! my laptop is compaq B1906tu. probably using ati sb450 of alc260 soundcard!
[12:18] <axion> and was experiencing some freezes with firefox and pidgin..
[12:18] <GIn> axion: for hardy support, please join #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <axion> than k you
[12:19] <GIn> it_rains: can u use the volume bar on the right top corner?
[12:19] <it_rains> yes!
[12:19] <it_rains> gln: but, no sound!
[12:19] <GIn> it_rains: then your card probably works, u need to adjust some settings
[12:20] <GIn> it_rains: double click on the volume icon ont he top right corner
[12:20] <GIn> it_rains: then edit -> prefrences
[12:21] <GIn> try to enable all tracks one by one and unmute them and test your sound
[12:21] <it_rains> Gln: i did. what do i do now?
[12:21] <rose> GIn, apt-get install deluge
[12:21] <it_rains> gln: ok
[12:21] <GIn> I had to play witht hose to get sound output
[12:21] <matt_____> hello there - having some troubles with my wireless connection on my acer laptop. I have the drivers installed and it has the device loaded, I even have a light on my wireless device to state it is on. But still, It doesn;t seem to want to connect to my router
[12:21] <GIn> rose: ?
[12:22] <GIn> matt___ can u scan for wireless networks with your card?
[12:23] <it_rains> gln : there is nothing muted. all unmuted! and still no sound.
[12:24] <GIn> it_rains: some times u get an extra tab with extra options, try to enable those
[12:24] <GIn> mine has "duplicate front"
[12:25] <kaNNib^L> i want help
[12:25] <kaNNib^L> i want to know how to install ubuntu?
[12:25] <harmental> guys...how can i create a video from a bunch of jpeg or eps files???
[12:25] <it_rains> gln : i enable all. and still no sound...
[12:26] <tomux> yo
[12:26] <tomux> ya qqn ?
[12:26] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L yo
[12:26] <Sturmeh> you tried yet?
[12:26] <matt_____> Gin - I'm not sure how to do that - it has roaming mode on
[12:26] <tomux> yeah jsui pa tou seul
[12:26] <kaNNib^L> well i have livecd
[12:27] <GIn> it_rains: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494743
[12:27] <tomux> ok it's english here
[12:27] <kaNNib^L> now i want to install it but dont know how to create its partition
[12:27] <toogreen_> GIn, thanks for the help, it worked indeed with ndiswrapper... I'm happy as long as it works, no matter how... but isn't it a bit worrying for Ubuntu that its released in 4 days and has such major bugs?
[12:27] <tomux> i'm french. what client have you ?
[12:27] <tomux> me : xchat
[12:27] <GIn> matt_____: what wireless encryption does your network use?
[12:27] <matt_____> wep ascii
[12:27] <kaNNib^L> can anyone answer me?
[12:27] <toogreen_> GIn, I mean most people expect things that used to work to still work, especially not use wrappers for things that used to work natively
[12:28] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L use the live cd, it boots correct?
[12:28] <matt_____> I have manually defined the ESSID, wep key, and set it to DHCP
[12:28] <unop> harmental, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html
[12:28] <kaNNib^L> yes it boots correct
[12:28] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L on the desktop, you have "install" have you clicked that?
[12:28] <matt_____> But I can't find where to check the status (I'm trying to convert from windows)
[12:28] <kaNNib^L> when it want to start partition i dont know ex2 exe3
[12:28] <kaNNib^L> yes i did
[12:29] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L EXT3 for "/" SWAP for swap
[12:29] <GIn> toogreen_: well, Hardy is still in beta, it will probably works when it's released , but that's unlikely. You can report it to the developers
[12:29] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L you need two partitions, one for SWAP, and one for everything else... Optionally two more for /boot and /home
[12:30] <GIn> matt_____: iwconfig should show you some information u need
[12:30] <GIn> matt_____: but network-manager is also useful
[12:30] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L the one that is for everything else (root) / must be a Primary partition
[12:30] <toogreen_> GIn, I saw many similar reports already, with similar cards and others as well.. thats why im worried! I know some people in the press are just so eager to write reviews and bitch about every little bug they will encounter.. :P
[12:31] <GIn> matt_____: do you have a little computer on the right top corner?
[12:31] <jussio1> toogreen: Please use #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[12:31] <matt_____> yes - its showing me info about the wired connection i'm using right now
[12:31] <rambo> salve ragazzi ho un problema mentre installo ubuntu da live, quando arrivo al momento della partizione non mi trova un punto di montaggio dell'hd r non mi fa andare avanti...come posso fare?
[12:31] <GIn> toogreen_: it is hard for an OS to support every wireless card out there. WIndows does NOT support them all either. Most of the users need to install the driver theirself
[12:32] <GIn> themself*
[12:32] <Sturmeh> kaNNib^L no more questions?
[12:32] <GIn> matt_____: did u run iwconfig?
[12:32] <Sturmeh> GIn i blame the vendors for not writing drivers for linux
[12:33] <matt_____> nope - have no idea what that is heh
[12:33] <GIn> Sturmeh: it will happen . just a matter of time ;)
[12:33] <matt_____> sudo iwconfig?
[12:33] <GIn> matt_____: yes, in the terminal
[12:33] <toogreen_> GIn, I know, i'm not complaining you know, just find it strange that it stopped working just days before release.. I forgot to mentioned it used to work even after upgrading to hardy, it just stopped working a few days ago after a usual update... anyway, hopefully it will be resolved before release
[12:34] <GIn> toogreen_: then it is best to report that to the developers
[12:34] <matt_____> lo        no wireless extensions.
[12:34] <matt_____> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:34] <matt_____> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"70Kiddles"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[12:34] <matt_____>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.472 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[12:34] <matt_____>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm
[12:34] <FloodBot1> matt_____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:34] <matt_____>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[12:34] <it_rains> i will reboot..
[12:34] <toogreen_> GIn, ok, will do
[12:35] <cjzjm100> Hi,guys!If i had download my emails to my computer by evolution,are they in the ~/.evolution by default? If i update the evolution,will they be overwrited?And if i remove the evolution,will they be removed?
[12:35] <GIn> matt_____: your card works, but a bit slow
[12:36] <GIn> cjzjm100: if you update evolution, they won' t be overwritten by the new update
[12:36] <matt_____> hmm - browsing just tells me that there is no connection at all
[12:36] <matt_____> I understand thre are difficulties when using broadcoms - heh
[12:36] <odder> hm. Got a pretty weird problem. When I kill my gnome-panel app, my keyboard shortcuts simply don't work anymore. Is it normal? I use GNOME 2.14.1 on a Dapper-derivative.
[12:37] <GIn> odder: yes, that's normal afaik
[12:38] <heymr_> chown 775 -R /home/me
[12:38] <heymr_> this is very bad right?
[12:38] <heymr_> how can I revert that?
[12:38] <cjzjm100> GIn,what about removing the evolution?will they be remove?
[12:38] <GIn> cjzjm100: nope, removing evolution won't remove ~/.evolution
[12:39] <nonewmsgs> is there a secret to installing windows after ubuntu so it doesn't overwrite grub or fsck things up?
[12:39] <|Debian|> !add repository
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add repository - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <|Debian|> !repository
[12:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:40] <heymr_> to revert chown 775 -R /home/me ? anyone?
[12:40] <n-iCe> Hello everybody
[12:40] <Cahan> nonewmsgs, IIRC you have to reinstall GRUB
[12:40] <TWP-SirStaal> Is a firewall necessary with ubuntu? and what would it prevent?
[12:40] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: if you have more than 1 harddisk in yer rig itś easy; just boot from the second disk and install there, after that go back to first and add windoze to grub...
[12:40] <cjzjm100> GIn,were the emails  downloaded in the ~/.evolution by default?
[12:40] <jussio1> !firewall | TWP-SirStaal
[12:40] <n-iCe> How can I Know my wireless name?
[12:40] <ubotu> TWP-SirStaal: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:41] <nonewmsgs> how to add windows to grub? i know the first line is what drive/partition
[12:41] <cjzjm100>  GIn,were the emails  downloaded in the ~/.evolution by default?
[12:41] <TWP-SirStaal> Thanks
[12:41] <Jemt> Greetz. Dosn't 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' give you any questions on Ubuntu ?
[12:41] <jussio1> Jemt: no
[12:41] <jussio1> Jemt: take away the -phigh and it will
[12:41] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: there is an app in synaptic that's a gui to grub; thatś the easiest way, I think
[12:41] <Jemt> jussi01: Do you know how that's possible? On Debian it does
[12:42] <n-iCe> How can I install 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01) ??
[12:42] <jussio1> Jemt: the -phigh just gets a new one
[12:42] <Jemt> jussi01: I know. I'm just trying to figure out the differences between Debian and Ubuntu on this level
[12:42] <nonewmsgs> thanks everyone :) my ubuntu brothers (and sisters?) are the best
[12:42] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: something like 'grub settings' or so, just search 'grub' and look for it
[12:42] <Jemt> jussi01: "gets a new one" ?
[12:42] <GIn> cjzjm100: um, honestly I don't know. but removing an application won't remove the user's data
[12:42] <jussio1> !bcm43xx | n-iCe
[12:42] <ubotu> n-iCe: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:42] <Leeuw> nonewmsgs: you know it ! :P
[12:42] <Leeuw> and I agree...
[12:42] <n-iCe> ubot ok thanks
[12:43] <jussio1> Jemt: resets it to the default basic config
[12:43] <jussio1> !bot | n-iCe
[12:43] <ubotu> n-iCe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:43] <tomolds_> Which email client do you recommend?
[12:43] <n-iCe> jussio1 have you installed it before?
[12:44] <Jemt> jussi01: Don't it run the detection again ?
[12:44] <Jemt> Dosn't
[12:44] <jussio1> Jemt: no, without the -phigh it does.
[12:44] <jussio1> n-iCe: yes
[12:44] <n-iCe> jussio1 awesome let me read it
[12:44] <Jemt> jussi01: Okay. Do you know how Ubuntu auto detects video card and monitor then ? I thought it just ran 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' on boot
[12:45] <jussio1> Jemt: hrm, Im not certain of it. Im sorry
[12:45] <n-iCe> jussio1 wait please, let me try
[12:45] <Jemt> Okay, thanks anyways, jussi01 :)
[12:45] <nks16> Hello, where can I go to get a top of the line pre-installed ubuntu linux laptop ?
[12:46] <jussio1> n-iCe: Im going to be up and down from the pc. If I dont answer, Im sorry
[12:46] <n-iCe> :<
[12:46] <n-iCe> This will be quick
[12:46] <n-iCe> I Did update and upgrade
[12:47] <jtravnick> will gnomebaker burn mpg files so they can be watched on a normal dvd player?
[12:47] <bazhang> jtr
[12:48] <bazhang> jtravnick: no
[12:48] <bazhang> jtravnick: need some things like devede
[12:48] <jtravnick> bazhang, k didnt think so but wasnt sure if i was just doing something wrong
[12:49] <tums> hi
[12:49] <n-iCe> jussio1:  should I follow the Internet Enabled Installation tutorial?
[12:49] <tums> did any body know yahoo sniffer in linux
[12:49] <tums> ?
[12:50] <bazhang> tums: what is it
[12:50] <Chri1> where are cookies stored in the file system?
[12:50] <tums> yahoo messenger sniffer
[12:50] <it_rains> gln: i followed the webpage you gave me and rebooted. but still no sound.
[12:50] <tums> a software
[12:51] <bazhang> tums please describe in detail the purpose of said software
[12:52] <vova_kubba> !quote 29
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote 29 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <GIn> it_rains: does lsmod | grep snd give you any output?
[12:52] <vova_kubba> !quote 16
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quote 16 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <vova_kubba> :)
[12:52] <mettao87> hi. i have a problem whit a cd-r. the cd is writed but ubuntu recognise it like blank. what can i do? (i'm italian, sorry for my imperfect english).. thanks...
[12:52] <tums> i need a software for monitor yahoo messenger in my network
[12:52] <bazhang> vova_kubba: please /msg ubotu for fun if you wish
[12:53] <odder> !it | mettao87
[12:53] <ubotu> mettao87: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:53] <bazhang> mettao87: is is data cd or iso cd
[12:53] <mettao87> data
[12:53] <arcsky> Hi i wonder why doesnt all conf files and so get deleted when i do apt-get remove apache2 ?
[12:53] <bazhang> mettao87: burned with what software
[12:53] <it_rains> gln: can i paste the result here?
[12:53] <GIn> it_rains: nope
[12:53] <Starnestommy> arcsky: use sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[12:53] <GIn> !pastebin ! it_rains
[12:54] <mettao87> the standard software of ubuntu.
[12:54] <odder> mettao87: try osking on the italian channel, it should be easier for you to communicate with them
[12:54] <odder> asking*
[12:54] <GIn> it_rains: use pastebin
[12:54] <GIn> !pastebin
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:54] <mettao87> odder: i've already done it but they don't answer...
[12:54] <it_rains> sorry i don't understand what pastebin means..
[12:54] <GIn> it_rains: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:54] <Chri1> Can anyone help? Where are cookies stored in the file system?
[12:54] <it_rains> oh..
[12:55] <|Debian|> i've added wine to my reps and when i search i still can't install it
[12:55] <odder> mettao87: okay, we'll try to help you
[12:55] <odder> |Debian|: what exactly did you add to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:55] <GIn> |Debian|: wine is in the repo by default ( I think)
[12:55] <bazhang> |Debian|: did you update? sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <n-iCe> How can I change my desktop configurations? I mean to put the recycle bin etc
[12:55] <n-iCe> !recycle
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recycle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <|Debian|> bazhang: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry
[12:56] <n-iCe> !recicle
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recicle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <n-iCe> !trash
[12:56] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:56] <it_rains> gln: please see!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63819/
[12:56] <mettao87> bazhang: i burned it with the cd/dvd creator of ubuntu
[12:56] <GIn> n-iCe: the recycle bin is just a directory ~/.Trash
[12:56] <bazhang> n-iCe: you can /msg ubotu with keywords in private window
[12:56] <mettao87> odder: ok thank you.
[12:57] <bazhang> mettao87: can you try again using gnomebaker or another app?
[12:57] <mettao87> have i to write it again?
[12:57] <bazhang> mettao87: are you able to? do you have an extra cd-r?
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: my nick is Gin by the way not GLn
[12:58] <arcsky> Starnestommy: oki, now when i do apt-get install apache2, i dont get this directory /etc/apache2
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: it seems there are drivers loaded for your card
[12:58] <Sturmeh> capital I to u
[12:58] <Sturmeh> :P
[12:58] <it_rains> opps.. Sorry! :-)
[12:58] <GIn> it_rains: as I said, play with the settings..
[12:59] <GIn> it_rains: are your speakers turned on?
[12:59] <GIn> volume of the speakers not muted?
[12:59] <bejo> hi
[12:59] <it_rains> not muted.
[12:59] <mettao87> yes i have it.. i can try. but there is a strange particular. the first time i inserted the cd-r ubuntu saw it right.
[12:59] <GIn> it_rains: how are you testing your sound card to see if it works or not?
[13:00] <mettao87> after that i restarted the system to boot from cd.
[13:00] <it_rains> i'm using system>preference>sound> test
[13:00] <mettao87> and then off... the cd-r now is blank for my computer....
[13:00] <r0dzilla> have you tried using alsamixer to unmute your sound card? sometimes gnome volume control won't show it and most sound cards are muted by default
[13:01] <|Debian|> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry
[13:01] <|Debian|> any ideas
[13:01] <banditul> how i can i install xmms on 8.04 ?
[13:01] <gwork> Hi all.. I'm installing a new pc with ubuntu, dual boot. I need to choose the type of filesystem: ext3 or xfs. My home directories will be stored on a central file server. What would you advice for the / system?
[13:01] <GIn> it_rains: are they set to auto detect?
[13:01] <odder> banditul: sudo apt-get install xmss? :)
[13:01] <spe3dy> gwork, ext3
[13:01] <banditul> odder,  don't work
[13:01] <it_rains> yes.
[13:01] <gwork> spe3dy: why not xfs? it seems faster and still has a journal
[13:02] <GIn> it_rains: a faster way to test is, play a long movie, then leave it on and play with your sound settings
[13:02] <ere4si> banditul: try xmms2
[13:02] <banditul> odder, Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:02] <GIn> it_rains: gutsy right?
[13:02] <odder> |Debian|: did you follow http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb ?
[13:02] <it_rains> it's hardy.
[13:02] <|Debian|> odder , yes
[13:03] <bazhang> mettao87: you cannot boot from a data cd only an iso cd
[13:03] <GIn> it_rains: :S Hardy uses pulse audio.. try in #Ubuntu+1 :\
[13:03] <spe3dy> gwork, backswards compatibilty
[13:03] <odder> banditul: if xmms2 won't work, then try aptitude search xmss for example
[13:03] <spe3dy> *backwards
[13:03] <mettao87> it is iso cd.... i downloaded debian's image and i wrote it...
[13:03] <gwork> spe3dy: please explain. why do i need backward compatibility for  a root filesystem?
[13:03] <banditul> what is your favorite mp3 player ?
[13:03] <odder> |Debian|: did you then sudo apt-get update?
[13:04] <spe3dy> gwork, incase you run applications that were designed tpo specificially manipulate the ext2 filesystem
[13:04] <bazhang> mettao87: that is iso and not data; you said data
[13:04] <mettao87> sorry......
[13:04] <it_rains> ok. thank you a loy gin!! :-)
[13:04] <gwork> spe3dy: i think i won't ...
[13:04] <it_rains> a loy i mean..
[13:05] <it_rains> oh.. i press t but..
[13:05] <|Debian|> odder yes
[13:05] <odder> |Debian|: and you still can't install wine?
[13:05] <GIn> it_rains: but I am sure your card works, because the drivers are loaded.  take your time and play with the volume settings, unmute, check the switchs, raise the volume bars etc. g'luck
[13:05] <|Debian|> i get that error
[13:05] <it_rains> thank you so much!
[13:06] <ridicule> Hey can anyone help me setting up an OpenVPN server, i'm getting very stuck and confused ?
[13:06] <visof> how can i update and add a lot of repository packages for ubuntu 7.04?
[13:06] <mitk0k> Hi, guys. I changed my hostname ( computer name ) and now I have problems with Synaptic Package Manager ( i cannot run it ). Sudo is also not working in the console : "unable to resolve hostname ...."
[13:07] <odder> !update | visof
[13:07] <ubotu> visof: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:07] <mettao87> the question is, why the first time i used the cd ubuntu recognised it and from the second time to now ubuntu recognise it like blank???
[13:07] <odder> visof: hm. Try following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[13:09] <icesword> mettao87, chances are you sure your cd drive is okay?
[13:09] <mettao87> yes... i use it whit other cd..
[13:09] <saurabh> is there a difference between rp-pppoe and stock pppoe ?
[13:10] <mettao87> icesword, how can i check if it is really okay?
[13:10] <mitk0k> anyone ?
[13:10] <icesword> hmm
[13:10] <icesword> mettao87, try another cd ?
[13:11] <teo> "Hello World!" ;-)
[13:11] <icesword>  mettao87 is it just a common cd drive or dvd drive? and when you bought it
[13:11] <mettao87> dvd drive of asus notebook
[13:12] <mettao87> ok, i inserted a music cd-r and it function....
[13:12] <clinckx> Who can help me too install/configure X on Windows Vista?  I want to connect to a remote kubuntu workstation and run X server on Vista
[13:12] <icesword> mettao87, hmm, then it is ok
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !windows | clinckx
[13:13] <ubotu> clinckx: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> clinckx: this is for ubuntu support only.
[13:13] <bvm> hi, am on a Dell Latitude D600 just upgraded to 8.04RC and managed to get bcmxx wireless working, but during the upgrade, compiz has stopped working. My card is an ATI mobility radeon 9000. I had compiz working fine in gutsy. Does anyone have any ideas for a diagnosis or a potential fix?
[13:13] <clinckx> but... it's is a remote configuration to ubuntu...
[13:13] <clinckx> with putty
[13:14] <clinckx> and xwing
[13:14] <bvm> starting from terminal with --no-checks i get Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[13:14] <TuxIce> Hello
[13:14] <TuxIce> Is there a programming help section of ubuntu irc?
[13:14] <ciastek> Look for someone with GNOME 2.22 and two spare minutes.
[13:15] <CarlCox> http://i27.tinypic.com/2vtwt3d.jpg  <<< can any1 tell me what's the problem ?
[13:15] <TuxIce> hello?
[13:15] <TuxIce> #ubuntu-programming maybe?
[13:15] <toresn> how do i move multiple directories to one destination, using the command line?
[13:16] <transformers> hello i wam geting 8139ct error when trying to isntall ubuntu
[13:16] <mattywarr> hi there - is wine installed by default to ubuntu or is there a way i need to install it?
[13:16] <mettao87> iceswor: now i inserted debian's cd and ubuntu ricognised it.... probably now it function..... mmmmmm.... thank you. bie
[13:16] <Seveas> toresn, mv /path/to/dir1 /path/to/dir2 /path/to/dir3 /path/to/dest
[13:16] <bvm> mv xx && mv xx && xx?
[13:16] <bvm> yeh, ignore me
[13:16] <mameman> @ mattywar in terminal type   sudo apt-get install wine
[13:17] <toresn> Seveas: ah, that simple, ty
[13:17] <mattywarr> cool - thanks mameman :)
[13:17] <mameman> no problem
[13:17] <TuxIce> ok heres a programming question - is there any way to setup your index.html file to check what browser your using and forward you to the appropriate page for example if yur using ie you get forwarded to /ie
[13:18] <mameman> ummm
[13:18] <kklimonda> TuxIce: using javascript
[13:18] <mameman> @tuxice goto w3 schools
[13:18] <spe3dy> javascript
[13:18] <spe3dy> bad idea
[13:18] <spe3dy> lots of users dont even have js enabled in their browser
[13:18] <mameman> is it?
[13:18] <TuxIce> anyway to do it with html
[13:18] <spe3dy> you cant do it with html
[13:18] <vegpuff> hi, how do i set default applications for file types. i.e for avi -> xine and for .txt -> gedit
[13:18] <spe3dy> you have to ise a scripting language
[13:18] <Starnestommy> TuxIce: you could use javascript, replace index.html with a php script, or use a .htaccess file
[13:18] <spe3dy> like php for example
[13:18] <TuxIce> im creating a website and it dosent render the table on IE techotech.com/Dente
[13:18] <seamus7> how do I regenerate grub so that it uses the newest kernel on my system?
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub
[13:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:19] <transformers> anyone fuckign oign to help me?
[13:19] <TuxIce> what kind of pho would you use
[13:19] <TuxIce> transformers - DO NOT SWEAR
[13:19] <ere4si> seamus7: sudo update-grub
[13:19] <transformers> TUXICE SHUT TEH FUCK UP!
[13:19] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  you're using depreciated HTML
[13:19] <spe3dy> no wonder you are having problems
[13:19] <mameman> tux google.com/html
[13:20] <transformers> TUXICE ASSHOLE
[13:20] <ompaul> !language | transformers
[13:20] <ubotu> transformers: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:20] <seamus7> ere4si: do I need to delete the old menu.lst first ...
[13:20] <mameman> dont swear
[13:20] <ere4si> seamus7: nope
[13:20] <transformers> HE IS A FUCKING NIGGER
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: I'd just kick them
[13:20] <TuxIce> OK so upgrade to HTML 4.0
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: :D
[13:20] <mameman> seamus7 do you want it to change the text on the boot menu?
[13:20] <TuxIce> actually im caucasian
[13:20] <vegpuff> any idea how to set default application for soem file types
[13:21] <icesword> lol. made me laugh
[13:21] <TuxIce> THX for the help ;D
[13:21] <vegpuff> open with other application option doesn't allow me to set the default application type
[13:22] <acomaco> how can i check where my USB pen drive is mounted?
[13:22] <vegpuff> ??
[13:22] <mameman> ummm
[13:22] <seamus7> mameman: got it .. thanks :) ... I had to delete menu.lst first
[13:22] <spe3dy> acomaco, should be in  /media/disk
[13:22] <mameman> o nice seamus
[13:22] <acomaco> Well, i want to format it..
[13:22] <pen> acomaco: right click gnome-panel
[13:22] <mameman> no spe3dy /media/disk is the windows partitions
[13:22] <acomaco> could i do, mkfs.vfat /media/disk?
[13:22] <pen> acomaco: add Disk Mounter
[13:23] <spe3dy> mameman,  not by default its not
[13:23] <pen> acomaco: there you have a neat mount applet
[13:23] <icesword> acomaco, don't hurrg, just make sure, try mount and see
[13:23] <spe3dy> mameman,  oh wait, i dont have windows installed, so for me by default its not
[13:23] <spe3dy> sorry
[13:23] <pen> icesword: hi
[13:23] <mameman> mines was by default after i mounted it lol
[13:23] <icesword> pen, good nite
[13:23] <acomaco> I'll just put it in my sisters computer and format then :P
[13:23] <pen> icesword: how's going?
[13:24] <icesword> not bad
[13:24] <icesword> i would say
[13:24] <spe3dy> acomaco,  look in the /media directory
[13:24] <spe3dy> it should be accessible from there
[13:24] <ere4si> hi icesword
[13:24] <Vasa> hi
[13:24] <davi> Is there a way to do a network install of Ubuntu, without downloading the full ISO image?
[13:24] <icesword> ere4si, hiya
[13:24] <ere4si> :)
[13:25] <icesword> ere4si, you need to go to sleep,  me thinks, hehe
[13:25] <davi> Is there a business-card or network install ISO image?
[13:25] <spe3dy> davi i think tehre is
[13:25] <mameman> @davi i dont think so you might have to take the cd and install over and over again
[13:25] <spe3dy> *there
[13:25] <ere4si> hehe
[13:25] <pen> davi: I think so
[13:25] <Vasa> I need some help: my resources tab says, that CPU usage is 100%, the fan runs on the maximum, but on the app, list nothings shows to use this load
[13:26] <Vasa> Anyway I have a HP Omnibook XE3 PIII, with speedstep, which I cannot make t owork
[13:26] <mameman> @vasa check what proceses are running
[13:26] <Paddy_EIRE> davi yes there is google and the official ubuntu website can be quite handy when it comes to these kinds of questions..
[13:26] <spe3dy> davi, apparently, you can do a network install, but there isnt a network iso, so you would still have tot download the full iso
[13:26] <LuteM> I just picked up a Everex gBook is there anyway to strip the gOS off the top of Ubuntu on there without doing a total reinstall
[13:26] <Vasa> none of them use the processor:(
[13:27] <Vasa> Pidgin 10%, gnome system monitor 15%
[13:27] <Vasa> and thats all:(
[13:27] <mameman> pidgin really takes up that much? wow
[13:27] <Vasa> And this often happens
[13:27] <Vasa> How can I solve this?
[13:27] <TuxIce> @lutem: i dont think so , can anyone verify
[13:27] <mameman> @ vasa switch over to kopete maybe that will work
[13:27] <Paddy_EIRE> davi some reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=750403 only took 2 secs to find on google ;)
[13:28] <spe3dy> Vasa,  what cpu you got?
[13:28] <TuxIce> can you use if / else in conky?
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> davi the reading leads here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[13:28] <LuteM> TuxIce: Bummer as I have some stuff set up already and would like to keep it if possible
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[13:28] <mameman> @vasa maybe its a bad installation of ubuntu or its a mistake
[13:29] <TuxIce> for example if youre CPU hit >47C Show CPU temp in red and if it hit >55C popup a window saying Warning!
[13:29]  * N3bunel saluta
[13:29] <Syntex_> i need help in xcha!
[13:29] <Syntex_> learnn me use it
[13:29] <mameman> google.com/cpuusage
[13:29] <Vasa> PIII coopermine
[13:29] <TuxIce> @lutem why dont you just backup with a flash drive?
[13:29] <Syntex_> how i can connect to channels????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[13:29] <spe3dy> PIII lol
[13:29] <spe3dy> well
[13:29] <Vasa> it's not pidgin problem
[13:29] <spe3dy> thats old
[13:29] <Vasa> haha
[13:29] <Starnestommy> Syntex_: type /join #channel
[13:29] <CubaCola2> lu
[13:30] <Vasa> and then what? switch back to XP?
[13:30] <mameman> syntex_ what client are u using?
[13:30] <TuxIce> or use gparted to shrink yur drive install ubuntu on the freed space, backup your data, and expand the partition
[13:30] <Syntex_> why here is not ppl?
[13:30] <CubaCola2> bon il semlerait que tout mes disk dur meurt les ns apres les autres
[13:30] <mameman> no never go back to M$ windowz vasa
[13:30] <Vasa> It worked fine
[13:30] <Syntex_> I am at right channel
[13:30] <Syntex_> and now ppl
[13:30] <CubaCola2> sorry
[13:30] <Syntex_> where is  problem
[13:30] <spe3dy> Vasa,  paste the result of uname-a
[13:30] <spe3dy> ** uname -a
[13:30] <Vasa> Ok, then how can I normalize my cpu?
[13:31] <deserteagle> hello all
[13:31] <Vasa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:31] <TuxIce> any conky experts
[13:31] <Vasa> sorry
[13:31] <TuxIce> ??
[13:31] <deserteagle> could someone please point me in the right direction for a vmware issue?
[13:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | TuxIce
[13:31] <ubotu> TuxIce: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:31] <LuteM> TuxIce: one thing I am a bit concerned with is I stuck a Debian netinstall disk in there and it can't seem to get my wifi going, and I am not all that familiar with hand setup
[13:31] <arthalion7> hi to everybody
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <Vasa> Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Vasa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <deserteagle> all i simply want is to boot an existing windows install inside linux
[13:32] <TuxIce> LuteM: Ubuntu has better Wifi support than debian i found, debian currently dosent support my CArd either, but ubuntu does
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: simply huh
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[13:32] <mameman> @deserteagle there are tools look around  in synaptic
[13:32] <Vasa> any idea?
[13:32] <TuxIce> No body here can work with conky????
[13:32] <spe3dy> Vasa,  try the command top
[13:33] <Paddy_EIRE> TuxIce: apparently you do not know how to ask a question...
[13:33] <Vasa> 2.6.22-14
[13:33] <spe3dy> is there anything with strange high numbers in top vasa
[13:33] <TuxIce> good point.
[13:33] <TuxIce> ok ill shut it
[13:33] <n-iCe> !Broadcom4311
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcom4311 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <deserteagle> mameman: i installed vmware server but it won't let me create a new machine
[13:33] <gearfox> hello after some difficulty with nvidia drivers on 7.10 I reinstalled 7.04.  I work with 3d graphics and cannot have crashes.  But now I am having difficulty with nvidia on 7.04.  Can anyone help me get the drivers up and running again?
[13:33] <n-iCe> !Broadcom
[13:33] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[13:34] <Schypher_> hi guys
[13:34] <LuteM> OK maybe I need to download the Ubuntu install and try it
[13:34] <TuxIce> LUteM: that would be a good idea
[13:34] <mameman> check for synaptic desert eagle they might have a tool for that
[13:34] <TuxIce> **LuteM:
[13:34] <Vasa> I dont know if its strange, but my CPU could be hot, because my laptops fan runs too high
[13:35] <spe3dy> Vasa, run the top command
[13:35] <n-iCe> how do I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686??
[13:35] <mameman> @vasa u shuld get and external cpu cooler
[13:35] <Vasa> I run
[13:35] <spe3dy> is the cpu maxxed out at 100%?
[13:35] <mameman> wow
[13:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Vasa: have you tried installing "lm-sensors" to see what temperature readings you may be getting before it can be considered a problem?
[13:35] <Vasa> this was the output: Linux hp 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/L
[13:36] <deserteagle> mameman: synaptic doesn't have a tool
[13:36] <n-iCe> How do I instal the package linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:36] <mameman> @deserteagle get some more repos
[13:36] <deserteagle> such as?
[13:36] <mameman> ummm
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: have you added yourself to the vmware group
[13:36] <Schypher_> I've got a Dlink G650 pcmcia card, I've installed Madwifi drivers r3306v3. but when I tried to connect to my AP using nm-applet the card seem to be blinking but not connecting. How can I troubleshoot this, where can I find the logs?
[13:36] <tomo28jp> How can I make "Ctrl + M" as an additional enter key?
[13:36] <spe3dy> Vasa, that cant be the output of top
[13:36] <LuteM> TuxIce: do you happen to know if the Via C7 is 32 or 64 bit, am thinking 32
[13:36] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: ?
[13:37] <deserteagle> o_O
[13:37] <mameman> deserteagle try medibuntu or some other ones
[13:37] <TuxIce> LuteM: pretty sure its 32
[13:37] <deserteagle> mameman: thanks
[13:37] <n-iCe> how can I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ??? please
[13:37] <deserteagle> :)
[13:37] <LuteM> Yes am thinking that too
[13:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mameman: stop dishing bad advice o_O
[13:38] <LuteM> Xubuntu should be fine shouldn't is as I kind of like the xfce4 desktop
[13:38] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles
[13:38] <TuxIce> 8.10: Intrepid Ibex
[13:38] <TuxIce> 9.04 Grumpy Groundhog :D
[13:38] <n-iCe> How can I install linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ??????????
[13:38] <mameman> lol
[13:39] <n-iCe> I need it to install some drivers
[13:39] <mameman> n-ice try sudo apt-get install linux-headers......
[13:39] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: are you using the default kernel or one that you compiled yourself?
[13:39] <mameman> thats what i usualy do
[13:39] <TuxIce> LuteM: Xubuntu should work, i remember having no wireless support on xubuntu though.
[13:39] <icesword> `uname -r`
[13:40] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  the default one
[13:40] <LuteM> Hmm I'll just grab both then and see what happens
[13:40] <b4l74z4r> i installed the "Listen"music player in ubuntu but the next/previous track buttons don't work
[13:40] <TuxIce> LuteM: good idea
[13:40] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -a)"
[13:41] <LuteM> thanks for all your help TuxIce will let you know how it turns out
[13:41] <mameman> @b4l74z4r maybe its a bad install reinstall it
[13:41] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: have you found the appropriate wiki page..?
[13:41] <TuxIce> LuteM: no problem
[13:41]  * icesword  thinks it is uname -r
[13:41] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  says there is no linux-headers-Linux package
[13:42] <icesword> !headers
[13:42] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[13:42] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: I think I got it wrong.  It should've been "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[13:42] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: the vmware server page says i have to make sure my user is part of the "disk" group, can't find such a group though
[13:42] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: one sec
[13:43] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i added the ability to use tape drives to my user, to see if that helps
[13:43] <naxa> one of my hdds has some bad blocks somewhere on the first 9 gb, so i left it as free space, and the rest works great for ages. but ubuntu always "checks" it at startup, which keeps 150 seconds. can i disable this tryings in the kernel?
[13:43] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: err.. why tape drives
[13:43] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: hell if i know, just poking around :P
[13:43] <TuxIce> deserteagle: O.o
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: anyway... try starting that wiki pae from scratch .. as in remove vmware-server completely and start again according to their instructions
[13:44] <b4l74z4r> what's a bad install, wouldn't it be a bad install next time if i do exactly the same steps to install it
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> *page
[13:44] <b4l74z4r> ?
[13:44] <gearfox> I manually installed nvidia drivers and also tried with the nvidia-glx package.  neither is working
[13:44] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  says there is no  linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:44] <n-iCe> says no package
[13:44] <TuxIce> b4l74z4: Not neccesarily
[13:45] <spe3dy> deserteagle,  more /etc/group
[13:45] <spe3dy> disk should be in that list
[13:45] <b4l74z4r> TuxIce, why not?
[13:45] <deserteagle> more /etc/group
[13:45] <icesword> n-iCe, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`, what about this
[13:46] <spas19> naxa, try looking in fstab manual
[13:46] <deserteagle> >_< stupid tilda doesn't grab key focus
[13:46] <naxa> at bootup the kernel tries to read the first blocks after mbr on one of my hdds by default, what keeps 150 secs. i am aware that these blocks are io error, but the rest of the hdd works for ages for me like this. can i reduce the number retries to make ubuntu bootup faster
[13:46] <naxa> spas19, are you sure that this is fstab? i think this is made by the kernel. there is no partition
[13:46] <n-iCe> Starnestommy: ???
[13:46] <n-iCe> how can I install this package??? linux-headers-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[13:46] <spas19> naxa talking about fsck checks?
[13:47] <spas19> i see
[13:47] <JarG0n> how do I kill a process that will not go away with $ kill PID ?
[13:47] <arcsky> I just did apt-get install php5, do i have to do anymore for get php5 working with apache2 ?
[13:47] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: that package doesn't exist.  Are you sure that you're using the default kernel and that it's actually ubuntu?
[13:47] <icesword> !info linux-headers-2.6.24*
[13:47] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.24 does not exist in gutsy
[13:47] <naxa> spas19, not really. i think the kernel tries to recognize whats on the disk by default, maybe this is why no correct bios settings needed for linux
[13:47] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  yes
[13:47] <Starnestommy> JarG0n: kill -9 PID
[13:47] <n-iCe> :/
[13:47] <icesword> !info linux-headers-2.6.24* hardy
[13:47] <naxa> spas19, this is before the init starts
[13:47] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.24 does not exist in hardy
[13:47] <n-iCe> Starnestommy:  what else can I do??
[13:47] <spas19> i see... dunno then
[13:48] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: which version of ubuntu is it?
[13:48] <n-iCe> 7.10
[13:48] <JarG0n> Starnestommy>  That worked.  What does that do differently?
[13:48] <TuxIce> b4l74z4r: the first install could have been a repo down or there server was doing updates or that (and dont quote me on the last one) your CPU wasnt going through the install smoothly and it was all choppy
[13:48] <Starnestommy> JarG0n: it sends SIGKILL instead of the default SIGTERM.  Unlike SIGTERM, SIGKILL cannot be ignored except by init and some core processes
[13:49] <spas19> naxa, have u checked logs, do they print anything wierd?
[13:49] <JarG0n> Starnestommy>  Cool, thanks ! :)
[13:49] <n-iCe> any idea Starnestommy
[13:50] <naxa> spas19, i dont know where are the logs but i start without flash and without quiet mode so i see whats going on. there is many io error messages on that hdd, and after ~120 secs, it gives up and the system starts.
[13:50] <naxa> flash=splash
[13:50] <naxa> sorry
[13:50] <spas19> naxa, /var/log/kern.log
[13:51] <onca> just dropped in to show my appreciation, UBUNTU works excellently.
[13:51] <spe3dy> lol
[13:51] <spas19> :)
[13:52] <naxa> spas19, sd 0:0:1:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] [descriptor]
[13:52] <naxa>  for example
[13:52] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[13:52] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[13:52] <naxa> spas19,  ata1.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[13:52] <Schypher_> hi, when i do iwconfig, it desplay ath0 as the wireless interface, but when in ifconfig, it display wifi0 and ath0 as wireless interface.... can you tell me why ?
[13:53] <n-iCe> how can I Install 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 ???
[13:53] <Schypher_> why is there an extra wifi0 interface?
[13:53] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  its normal
[13:53] <Creationist> I'm compiling something from source and it's saying that I need the gtk2.0 libraries.  I've searched the repos for any gtk2 stuff, and can't find it.  What do I need?
[13:53] <spe3dy> atho is the physical device, wifi0 is sort of a marker for that device
[13:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Schypher_: spies
[13:53] <spe3dy> no need to worry about it, its normal
[13:53] <gearfox> after installing binary nvidia drivers how is it possible to try the nvidia-glx package
[13:53] <mattywarr> Hi - is there a way to install java using apt-get?
[13:53] <Schypher_> Paddy_EIRE, does nm-applet knows which if to connect from ?
[13:53] <n-iCe> nobody???
[13:53] <spe3dy> mattywarr,  you can use the add/remove app gui
[13:54] <berent> is there any mxml editor in ubuntu world
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !java | mattywarr
[13:54] <ubotu> mattywarr: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Schypher_: I was kidding :P
[13:54] <jelle> sudo apt-cache search java
[13:54] <Schypher_> spe3dy does nm-applet knows which if to connect from ?
[13:54] <jelle> and then just sudo apt-get install you package
[13:54] <spe3dy> sch technically they are both the same, so yes it does
[13:54] <spe3dy> Schypher_, ^^
[13:55] <mattywarr> hmm - can't seem to find it in add/remove
[13:55] <spe3dy> mattywarr,  in the drop down menuy
[13:55] <Schypher_> spe3dy, ?? I am trying to trouble my card, and don't know where the problem lies
[13:55] <naxa> spas19, can i upload the log somewhere?
[13:55] <spe3dy> select, "all available applications
[13:55] <Schypher_> spe3dy, can you help me?
[13:55] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  sure
[13:55] <liquidsilver> !peak
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <mattywarr> aha! Thanks :)
[13:55] <berent> !mxml
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mxml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <spas19> check paste section in topic
[13:55] <berent> !flash
[13:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:56] <spe3dy> mattywarr, select "all available applications" then search for java
[13:56] <TuxIce> !conky
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> naxa, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[13:56] <berent> !flex
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> !sex ?
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <spas19> ;/
[13:56] <schnootop> hello i am trying to partition ubuntu so i can install it on a laptop. i know i have to setup a swap and a ext3. But when i set up one or the other if wont let me setup the last one as it says unallocated space and has no new partition button
[13:56] <Schypher_> spe3dy, do you have any experience in PCMCIA cards/wifi and madwifi drivers?
[13:57] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  yes, alot of experience
[13:57] <naxa> spas19, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63827/
[13:57] <|Debian|> berent .. apt-get install flex
[13:57] <|Debian|> i just needed that =)
[13:57] <Scunizi> schnootop, how many partitions are you trying to make?
[13:57] <Schypher_> spe3dy, where can I find the logs ?
[13:57] <spe3dy> Schypher_, /var/logs
[13:57] <Schypher_> spe3dy, :D
[13:57] <spe3dy> /var/log
[13:57] <berent> |Debian|  : i am talking about adobe flex
[13:57] <incorrect> what ftpd server is best to use these days?
[13:58] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I mean't nm-applet logs
[13:58] <schnootop> Scunizi, there is 3 already on there and i need to create the / and swap
[13:58] <spas19> naxa, dunno how to skip the those kern checks
[13:58] <icesword> !ftpserver
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:58] <sanclio> www.ubuntu.it
[13:58] <Scunizi> schnootop, are the other 3 linux related or windows?
[13:58] <icesword> !ftpd
[13:58] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:58] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  why would you need them, what is your problem?
[13:58] <schnootop> Scunizi, windows so i cant touch them
[13:59] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[13:59] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[13:59] <schnootop> Scunizi, any idea what i can do ?
[13:59] <Scunizi> schnootop, ok.. the forth partition on the drive should be and extended partition.
[14:00] <Schypher_> spe3dy, well I have a Dlink G650 card, installed patched madwifi module successfully, card loads.... but nm-applet doesn't seem to be interacting with it... tried to connect to AP..... not getting any response... I could sniff for AP..
[14:00] <Starnestommy> |Debian|: what's the entire output of make?
[14:00] <naxa> spas19, np, thanks!
[14:00] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  generally dlink cards work out of the box
[14:00] <Scunizi> schnootop, inside of the exteded partition you'll be able to create / & /home & /swap
[14:00] <kaur> I am trying to compile a perl module and get Can't locate Inline/MakeMaker.pm. What should i do?
[14:00] <naxa> can someone help me how to skip the kernel checks seen at the top of this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63829/
[14:00] <TuxIce> I find atheros works good too.
[14:01] <TuxIce> naxa: Did you try GOOGLE
[14:01] <Schypher_> spe3dy, yes, I am surprised why this didn't work out of the box... maybe a driver conflict?
[14:01] <schnootop> when you say extended do you mean use as ext3 ? or what should i set that as ?
[14:01] <TuxIce> **google
[14:01] <spe3dy> deffinatly
[14:01] <naxa> TuxIce, i don't know what to search for
[14:01] <naxa> this is why i ask
[14:01] <spe3dy> you in fesity or gutsy?
[14:01] <naxa> i don't know what causes this
[14:01] <spe3dy> *feisty
[14:01] <Schypher_> spe3dy, before I installed the madwifi drivers, I plugged the card in, ubuntu did not pick it up
[14:01] <Scunizi> schnootop, if you hadn't thought of it yet, do yourself a favor and create a separate partition for /home.. so root or / should be 10gigs...... swap /swap no more than 1 gig and the rest for /home..
[14:02] <TuxIce> naxa: youre problem is that you have 9gb of bad sectors right?
[14:02] <Starnestommy> kaur: run "sudo cpan install Inline::MakeMaker" to install that missing module
[14:02] <erUSUL> naxa: medium errors == dying disk
[14:02] <TuxIce> and you need the kernel to skip checks of that first partition
[14:02] <TuxIce> naxa: am i right , or am i confusing u and someone else?
[14:02] <Schypher_> spe3dy, the strange thing is after I installed the patched madwifi drivers, I was able to do airmon, airodump-ng to sniff APs
[14:02] <spe3dy> yeah that is weird
[14:02] <kaur> Starnestommy, Thanks, I'll try
[14:03] <naxa> TuxIce, i am
[14:03] <himijendrix> i try to add applets to awn but there are none in the awn manger. am i supposed to download them somewhere?
[14:03] <spe3dy> go into the config of the applet and manually feed it the location of your hardware
[14:03] <Scunizi> schnootop, an extended partition just set the remaining space aside and allows you to create partition of a particular format of your choice... they are not "primary" partitions.  You can only have 4 primary partitions on a drive..
[14:03] <schnootop> Scunizi, i only have 14gb to play with but i still dont know how to create more than 1 partition :
[14:03] <berent> is there any mxml editor in ubuntu world
[14:03] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I'll try that suggestion
[14:03] <naxa> erUSUL, i know, the fisrt part of the hdd has bad blocks but the second half works for years for me, i want to disable the checking
[14:03] <bazhang> himijendrix: have you read the awn docs/faq yet?
[14:03] <yoursfaithfully> I have a minor directory question - I just downloaded some libraries for Octave (a pretty big folder-full), and I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for where to store it in my directory structure
[14:04] <TuxIce> naxa: what kernel are you using?
[14:04] <schnootop> how do i actually create this 'extended' partition
[14:04] <Schypher_> spe3dy, where is the nm-applet conf file ? not in /etc is it?
[14:04] <TuxIce> Ubuntu 9.10 Furrocious Ferret :D LOL
[14:04] <naxa> 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:04] <naxa> TuxIce, 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:04] <joeamined> hi
[14:04] <joeamined> how to change my account locale please ?
[14:05] <TuxIce> naxa : google - skip check of first partition with 2.6.22-14-generic kernel
[14:05] <himijendrix> bazhang, erm..didnt think of that...reading
[14:05] <Scunizi> schnootop, with 14gigs.. don't create a separate /home.. and swap should be about 512 mb.. while using the installer you should be able to choose manual and in there can create the logical or exteneded partition and the new ones you need to install inside of that
[14:05] <naxa> TuxIce, i will try
[14:05] <TuxIce> Ha i have a 4 gb swap partition
[14:05] <TuxIce> LOL
[14:06] <ikonia> TuxIce: why is that funny ?
[14:06] <TuxIce> naxa: tell me your findings
[14:06] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  it has a gui if you right click it
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, no luck for me
[14:06] <spas19> everyone has a fetish :)
[14:06] <TuxIce> ikonia: i think it is considering i only have 512mb of ram
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, they are irrelevant
[14:06] <TuxIce> its like revers
[14:06] <TuxIce> e
[14:06] <TuxIce> naxa: one sec ill try
[14:06] <naxa> TuxIce, ok
[14:06] <schnootop> ok i know how to do that, but when i click on logical. assign 14gb to that. What do i set the Use as 'as'. is it dont_use or ext3 or what ?
[14:06] <ikonia> TuxIce: not really, a large swap partition is a sensible way of countering low ram like 512mb
[14:07] <spas19> ikonia, a slow one...
[14:07] <ikonia> spas19: pardon ?
[14:07] <spas19> slow way :)
[14:07] <spe3dy> system>administration>network tools  > Schypher_  look in there too
[14:08] <Scunizi> schnootop, when you select logical it won't give you the option of choosing anything.. logical is like giving the remaining space on the harddrive a name called "logical" and then allowing you to partition that space as needed
[14:09] <joeamined> please how to change a user's locale in gnome ?
[14:09] <TuxIce> naxa: google this - how to: skip checking of a partition in linux
[14:09] <naxa> TuxIce, ok
[14:09] <jaffarkelshac> what do you mean locale, joeamined be a little specific
[14:09] <Pion33R> Hi !
[14:09] <Pion33R> :)
[14:09] <Schypher_> spe3dy, it says unknown ath interface.. is that correct?
[14:09] <TuxIce> Pion33R: Hi
[14:10] <in4mer> hello
[14:10] <Schypher_> spe3dy, it says unknown interface (ath0).. is that correct?
[14:10] <joeamined> jaffarlelshac: i'm having english_ca and i want to change it to en_US
[14:10] <TuxIce> spe3dy: do you have an atheros wireless card?
[14:10] <Schypher_> TuxIce, I do and i am having problem with it :D
[14:10] <joeamined> I changed the default locale to EN_US, but I'd like to change it in my current account
[14:10] <Schypher_> TuxIce, what's wrong with your card?
[14:11] <Scunizi> schnootop, do you get it?
[14:11] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  i do on one of my laptops
[14:11] <schnootop> not quite, i set up a logical (but it still gives me all those options) then once i created the logical i clicked on the partition again and it wouldnt allow me to create new ones within it :\
[14:11] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  it shouldnt be unknown
[14:11] <naxa> TuxIce, do you think that ide=nodma would solve this?
[14:11] <TuxIce> Schypher_: my card worked automatically
[14:11] <TuxIce> spe3dy: does it work?
[14:12] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  yes
[14:12] <jaffarkelshac> to change time zone if i have it right, just right click time and pick ajust time and date
[14:12] <TuxIce> Schypher_: the interface should be ath0
[14:12] <spe3dy> i installed the atheros -ng drivers
[14:12] <TuxIce> Schypher_: not just ath
[14:12] <spe3dy> and it worked
[14:12] <TuxIce> spe3dy: mine worked and connected to our dualband DIR-615 router automatically
[14:13] <TuxIce> naxa: ill find out
[14:13] <naxa> TuxIce, thanks but maybe its enough if i try isnt it?
[14:13] <Schypher_> TuxIce, it is ath0. but it didn't work automatically for me and I am using ubuntu 8.0.24, kern, 2.6.24.16-i386
[14:13] <TuxIce> naxa: i think it should work
[14:13] <spe3dy> TuxIce,  my atheros card is on slackware, which doesnt do anything automatically
[14:14] <naxa> TuxIce, I'll be back in a few minutes, please wait for me, i go and try! thanks for the help!
[14:14] <Scunizi> schnootop, well... since a harddrive can only be partitioned 4 times with primary partitions, "logical" is away of extending that beyond 4 partitions.  creating a logical partition shouldn't give you any options for formatting or assignment.. are  you using the alternate cd?
[14:14] <TuxIce> naxa: np
[14:14] <Schypher_> TuxIce, I always thought if I plugged the card in and dont need to restart, the drivers should load automatically, maybe I need to check the blacklist
[14:14] <TuxIce> spe3dy: good pont
[14:14] <TuxIce> Schypher_: possibly
[14:14] <schnootop> im using the legit ubuntu 7.10 cd
[14:14] <TuxIce> Schypher_: does it work on gutsy?
[14:14] <Schypher_> never tried
[14:15] <spe3dy> Schypher_,  you need to restart after you plug the card in
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: give that a try first.
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: dont forget to back up!
[14:15] <spe3dy> ubuntu should automatically work with dlink, assuming your using gutsy
[14:15] <TuxIce> Schypher_: but yes do try the blacklist
[14:15] <Schypher_> spe3dy, I thought the modules are loaded during bootup for atheros cards...
[14:15] <spe3dy> they are
[14:15] <spe3dy> thats why you need to re-start
[14:15] <spe3dy> so they can detect any hardware changes
[14:15] <wigren> i just updated to 8.04rc and i have and the only problem so far is when i restart or even log out and back in my screen brightness on my laptop goes to the darkest setting. i have to use the Function button to reset it. any ideas on how to stop this?
[14:16] <spe3dy> wigren,  this isnt beta support
[14:16] <Schypher_> spe3dy, ahh, hmm looks like uninstalled the modules I compiled would be hard :/
[14:16] <CP2> Hello, is a PPPoE GUI client been added to 8.04? Or is it necessary to use pppoeconf like in 10.06? thanks
[14:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !ubuntu+1 | wigren
[14:16] <wigren> spe3dy: ok sorry
[14:16] <ubotu> wigren: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:16] <Scunizi> schnootop, even the alternate is ligit.. just for different uses.. you might consider downloading and burning the iso for Gparted Live cd.  It is a partitioning utility that might be easier to use to finish the partitioning sceme on the drive and then have ubuntu install to that... unless someone else here has any other guideance..
[14:16] <schnootop> Scunizi, do you know if there is a graphical example of what you want me to do ?
[14:16] <TuxIce> Schypher_: i dont think you need to restart, just restart X - ctrl>alt>bkspace
[14:17] <schnootop> if i wanted to google it, what would i most likely search for ?
[14:17] <TuxIce> !Intrepid Ibex
[14:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intrepid ibex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:17] <tomolds> Anyone use Pidgin, how can I dock the contact list?
[14:17] <Scunizi> !partition | schnootop
[14:17] <ubotu> schnootop: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:17] <TuxIce> tomolds: im using pidgin right now - have you tried googleing it?
[14:18] <ubuser> hi all
[14:18] <ubuser> who can tell me a player to play mms streams^
[14:18] <ubuser> ?
[14:18] <tomolds> TuxIce: Sure I have but the plugin people talk of doesn't appear in my list.
[14:18] <tomolds> TuxIce: btw so am I using it right now, did you read my question?
[14:18] <Starnestommy> ubuser: I think vlc can
[14:18] <freewilly> bmpx mb
[14:18] <eps> what is the rdp gui client that ubuntu ships with, I don't have it installed and I can't remember the name?>
[14:18] <eps> !rdp
[14:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:19] <eps> !remote
[14:19] <Scunizi> schnootop, http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,73826/article.html
[14:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !multimedia | ubuser
[14:19] <ubotu> ubuser: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[14:19] <ubuser> Starnestommy: im using vlc but the quality is low
[14:19] <TuxIce> tomolds: how to dock the contact list, im not exactly sure?
[14:19] <schnootop> yeah gparted kind of isnt an option atm, as my connection is abit flakey lately
[14:19] <freewilly> audacious
[14:19] <eps> ubuser, vlc plays what is there, the quality is just best quality the file allows
[14:19] <tomolds> TuxIce: It seems no one is :-)
[14:19] <Scunizi> !who | schnootop
[14:19] <ubotu> schnootop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:19] <Jowi> eps: tsclient?
[14:19] <naxa> TuxIce, no luck but thank you for help! i have to go now. bye!
[14:19] <TuxIce> tomolds: sorry dude
[14:20] <cratel> how can I customize the gtk+ theme?
[14:20] <schnootop> Scunizi, yeah gparted kind of isnt an option atm, as my connection is abit flakey lately **
[14:20] <tomolds> TuxIce: np my quest continues.
[14:20] <ubuser> eps is not so cuz i played the same stream on windows vlc and the quality was different (better)
[14:20] <TuxIce> naxa: try linux ide=nodma
[14:20] <eps> thanks Jowi, sounds right
[14:20] <TuxIce> !pidgin
[14:20] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[14:20] <TuxIce> !kopete
[14:20] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[14:20] <eps> ubuser, I highly doubt it, you get the same client (code wise) for windows and linux and osx and solaris and everything else
[14:21] <Enfermo32> hola
[14:21] <Scunizi> schnootop, although configured a little different it's the same partitioner that is used in ubuntu install..  just looks different.  did you look at the link I posted for you?
[14:21] <ffm> Is there a step missing in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router ?
[14:21] <TuxIce> !ompaul
[14:21] <ubotu> ompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy
[14:21] <ffm> Like setting up a dhcp server?
[14:21] <TuxIce> !PriceChild
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pricechild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <Jowi> cratel: copy the theme to your ~/.themes directory and then modify ~/.themes/mytheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. There is no theme editor.
[14:22] <TuxIce> ANyone have any idea about ubuntu mobile
[14:22] <TuxIce> ?
[14:22] <Stroganoff> put it on a laptop.
[14:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: have you seen this text "This is where the new Ubuntu Router page is in development" at the top of that wiki
[14:22] <ikonia> !offtopic >tuxice
[14:22] <ubuser> eps try to load this mms://infrontsp-DE-06-S02.wm.llnwd.net/infrontsp_DE_08_S02?MSWMExt=.asf ... how do you see it?
[14:22] <TuxIce> ikonia: srry wrong channel
[14:22] <ikonia> TuxIce: no problem
[14:22] <schnootop> Scunizi, i am looking at it now. Aswell as i also have GParted on this CD
[14:22] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: Ah.
[14:23] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: That would be a problem, now wouldn't it.
[14:23]  * ffm follows old guide
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: hardly a problem if they are improving the page/article
[14:23] <Scunizi> schnootop, if you can access the graphical gparted program on the live cd that might be easier..
[14:23] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: It isn't complete.
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ffm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter/New
[14:24] <ffm> Paddy_EIRE: Mhm. I'm going to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuWirelessRouter
[14:24] <Schypher_> TuxIce, what card do you have ?
[14:24] <eps> ubuser, looks fine to me
[14:24] <Schypher_> TuxIce, wireless card is what I meant
[14:25] <eps> looks high quality in mplayer and vlc (vlc has no sound and no time line though)
[14:25] <schnootop> Scunizi, yeah im in it now
[14:25] <eps> ubuser, try mplayer instead of vlc, it seems to work better
[14:25] <ColdBeer> has anyone been able to instal cairo dock on ubuntu?
[14:26] <TuxIce> Schypher_: i have a todhiba A100 sattelite, without compiz :(, and an Atheros card (whatever one is default)
[14:26] <TuxIce> **toshiba
[14:26] <bachelorboy> hi guys! does anybody know about any good performance/optimization tools for Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:26] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  what do you want to optimise?
[14:26] <ikonia> bachelorboy: do the basics, shutdown unused services,
[14:26] <ColdBeer> whats the command line to install kubuntu?
[14:26] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: like msconfig?
[14:27] <ikonia> ColdBeer: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <spe3dy> ColdBeer, what do you mean?
[14:27] <Jowi> bachelorboy: for lowmem machine, switch to a lighter Window Manager / Desktop Environment.
[14:27] <TuxIce> COldBeer: do you mean the kde desktop
[14:27] <ColdBeer> thanks ikonia
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <bachelorboy> lately I have noticed increased boot time when loading Java apps (especially Eclipse) with Sun JDK 1.6
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> damn too slow
[14:27] <spe3dy> ahh you mean to install KDE
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> spe3dy: no he meant kubuntu
[14:27] <TuxIce> ikonia: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop is better
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[14:27] <spe3dy> ?
[14:27] <ikonia> TuxIce: not if he's not using kubuntu alread
[14:27] <ikonia> already
[14:27] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  how can a desktop app make your boot time increase?
[14:27] <VoidedCheck> there's no real difference between aptitude and apt-get
[14:27] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <deserteagle> hello again, in order to add my user to a certain group i do what in command line?
[14:28] <ColdBeer> ikonia, have u installed cairo dock?
[14:28] <deserteagle> chgroup?
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: no
[14:28] <himijendrix> i want to use non-awn icons for awn, in the FAQ it says "It'd be much easier changing the .xpm in /usr/share/pixmaps if you want a different icon" .what does it mean?
[14:28] <ColdBeer> has anyone had success with cairo dock on ubuntu?
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: many people have
[14:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | ColdBeer
[14:28] <ubotu> ColdBeer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:28] <spe3dy> ColdBeer,  i have
[14:28] <Orbixx> Two things. Firestarter is failing to start correctly and causing my network to hang until I stop and restart it. Secondly, I have a wifi connection that works, and is manually set, but each time I restart, I have to edit it and input the WPA key in again to reconnect.
[14:28] <TuxIce> ikonia: ohhhhhh i thought he was having X troubles (srry)
[14:28] <ikonia> ColdBeer: it's reasonable popular
[14:28] <spe3dy> although it gets annoying ColdBeer
[14:28] <jrib> deserteagle: you don't need the command line.  You can use System -> Administration -> Users and Groups.  Commandline is 'sudo adduser USER GROUP'
[14:28] <ColdBeer> spe3dy
[14:28] <ColdBeer> why annoting?
[14:28] <spe3dy> cairo-dock
[14:29] <spe3dy> its annoying to have some bullshit at the bottom of your screen
[14:29] <ColdBeer> yes
[14:29] <TuxIce> COldBeer: do you have compiz (i take it no)
[14:29] <Orbixx> spe3dy: Watch the language.
[14:29] <ikonia> spe3dy: careful ont he lagnague
[14:29] <richard> why i cannot use ubunto after of install mandriva
[14:29] <ColdBeer> i have compiz
[14:29] <richard> ????????????
[14:29] <deserteagle> thank you jrib! i forgot about the command adduser :P
[14:29] <TuxIce> !language | speedy
[14:29] <ColdBeer> tuxIce i have compiz why?
[14:29] <ubotu> speedy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:29] <spe3dy> without compiz cairo-dock is quite ugly
[14:29] <richard> help me
[14:29] <ikonia> richard: what is the problem ?
[14:29] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: then use AWN its much better
[14:30] <richard> help me -->  why I cannot use ubuntu after of install mandriva
[14:30] <spe3dy> deserteagle, do you want the group to be the primary group or not?
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> richard: was that english o_O
[14:30] <ikonia> richard: because you have done one of the following things 1.) updated your grub boot sector to read frmo the menu.lst from mandrva, or deleted your shared /boot sectors contents of anything to do with ubuntu
[14:30] <Orbixx> richard: You need to reconfigure grub.
[14:30] <richard> i'm peruvian
[14:30] <Jowi> richard: my guess is that mandriva replaced GRUB.
[14:30] <ColdBeer> hey i need someone smart for this one, i want to run "talk" from the terminal, i installed talk, and now it says no talk damon running, how do i start the talk damon?
[14:30] <spe3dy> richard,  did mandriva overwrite your grub and not add ubuntu to it?
[14:31] <deserteagle> spe3dy: o.O?
[14:31] <ColdBeer> /etc/init.d/talk start?
[14:31] <TuxIce> richard: could be that your not using ubuntu or that its not installed , what aare you talking about??????
[14:31] <|Debian|> i've been compiling wine from source ... done .. ./configure ... make depend ... then make and now i have an error .. make[2]: *** [port.o] Error 1
[14:31] <ColdBeer> doesnt work
[14:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub | richard
[14:31] <|Debian|> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/debian/Desktop/wine/libs/wine'
[14:31] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, sorry my mistake... I meant the boot-up time of Java apps in specific
[14:31] <ubotu> richard: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:31] <ikonia> ColdBeer: it's normally lanuched from inetd/xinetd
[14:31] <richard> for this my english isn't well
[14:31] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  yeah, i've noticed that too, i think its a java specific issue
[14:31] <jrib> |Debian|: why?  wine is in the repositories
[14:31] <Scunizi> richard, spanish?
[14:31] <VoidedCheck> sounds like a dependancey problem
[14:31] <|Debian|> jrib ... it's not
[14:31] <richard> yes
[14:31] <|Debian|> i've looked
[14:31] <jrib> !info wine | |Debian|
[14:31] <richard> yo hablo español
[14:31] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:31] <ubotu> |debian|: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[14:31] <ikonia> !es > richard
[14:31] <richard> pero creo q aca nadie habla español
[14:32] <Orbixx> richard: Join #ubuntu-es
[14:32] <pjv> is it possible for my wifi adapter to have aliases? I currently have a laptop with wifi, when i go to work i have to reconfigure it to be on dynamic, but when i take it home i have to reconfigure it again for a static IP
[14:32] <jrib> |Debian|: have you enabled the universe repository?
[14:32] <ColdBeer> ikonia -- u there?
[14:32] <ikonia> ColdBeer: yes ~I am
[14:32] <richard> es por eso q me esfuerzo por eplicar de la major manera posible mi probñlema
[14:32] <ColdBeer> how do i launch talk damon?
[14:32] <|Debian|> jrib.. i don't know how to do that
[14:32] <Scunizi> !es | richard
[14:32] <jrib> !es | richard
[14:32] <ubotu> richard: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:32] <jrib> !universe > |Debian| (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:32] <ikonia> ColdBeer: I've just told you, it's normally confiugred to launch from xinetd/inetd ?
[14:32] <richard> gracias en serio
[14:32] <VoidedCheck> system -> administration -> sources, enable universe
[14:32] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, u know, I'm saying that because I make comparisons with colleagues Ubuntu boxes (that have less apps installed) and there is a huge difference in start-up time
[14:32] <Macen> what's the yum/up2date command on mac?
[14:32] <ColdBeer> ikonia, ok so how do i start it, do i go look for it in there?
[14:33] <Macen> s/mac/debain
[14:33] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: Sytem>Preferences>Sessions
[14:33] <richard> thank you ikonia
[14:33] <Orbixx> bachelorboy: The only difference that apps would make would be the ones that have to start up when the computer starts up.
[14:33] <deserteagle> did i miss something?
[14:33] <richard> see yo
[14:33] <ikonia> ColdBeer: well, 1.) see if it's installed 2.) see if your using inetd/xinetd 3.) see if inetd/xinetd is configured to luanch it 4.)  make sure inetd/xinetd is running
[14:33] <richard> seeee oyu
[14:33] <Starnestommy> Macen: it's aptitude or apt-get
[14:33] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  that's quite strange and I don't think I could suggest anything, as you know there are many variables with issues like this, but i have noticed the latest stable versions of java are slower
[14:33] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: you can control startup programs and services
[14:33] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:33] <Scunizi> richard  see you
[14:33] <deserteagle> i did everything i was supposed to, yet i still can't run winxp inside ubuntu on vmware server :(
[14:33] <|Debian|> jrib wouldn't it all be setup automatically
[14:34] <jrib> |Debian|: universe and multiverse are not enabled by default
[14:34] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: virtual box is much better anyway :P
[14:34] <Macen> hm seems mac's have their own command, don't s'pose anyone knows what it is?i want to install lynx from a repo
[14:34] <bachelorboy> TuxIce, Orbixx, thanx for the advice.  I'll try to play a bit with the services stuff
[14:34] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: hello again! :D
[14:34] <ColdBeer> ikonia, how can i see if its installed?
[14:34] <TuxIce> bachelorboy: no problem
[14:34] <ikonia> ColdBeer: use the package manager
[14:34] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i actually installed it but don't know how to setup a vm
[14:34] <Scunizi> deserteagle, are you running vmware from a repository install? or did you download it from vmware directly?
[14:34] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  services wont in anyway make a differnce in the time it takes to launch java apps
[14:34] <ColdBeer> ikonia, the gui?
[14:34] <deserteagle> Scunizi: tarball install :S
[14:34] <ikonia> ColdBeer: , no the package manager, what ever tool you feel appropriate
[14:35] <Jockeo> How do I "print screen" into memory instead of file?
[14:35] <TuxIce> !synaptic
[14:35] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[14:35] <Scunizi> deserteagle, and where are  you getting stuck on the xp install?
[14:35] <TuxIce> !synaptic | ColdBeer
[14:35] <ubotu> ColdBeer: please see above
[14:35] <|Dede|> I need help: I cannot get Direct rendering to work "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:35] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[14:35] <deserteagle> Scunizi: it just says there is not bootable OS, CDROM or floppy
[14:35] <ColdBeer> ikonia, like apt-get?
[14:35] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:35] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: its really quite straight forward
[14:35] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, I know that, but I'll give it a go anyway.  Do u think that maybe the machine can get a bit confused with other installed Java runtimes (even though I have selected Sun's JDK as the default one)?
[14:35] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: thank you so much :)
[14:35] <ikonia> cold NO, the package manager, dpkg, synaptic, whatever one you choose to use
[14:36] <jrib> Jockeo: Instead of pasting, just import/open the file
[14:36] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  that is a possibility
[14:36] <deserteagle> sudo mount /media/hdd6
[14:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: sure.. :)
[14:36] <deserteagle> >_O
[14:36] <deserteagle> DAMN TILDA!
[14:36] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: System>Administration>SYnaptic Package Manger
[14:36] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, any idea on how I could check out that factor?
[14:36] <TuxIce> then click search and search for whatever package ikonia is talking about
[14:36] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: just skip to "Installation of Windows XP" on that first post
[14:36] <TuxIce> if it has  a green box it is installed
[14:36] <spe3dy> bachelorboy,  not really, cant you just remove previous version of java?
[14:36] <tdn> Why is Launchpad so slow?
[14:37] <Jockeo> jrib: You mean save it as file and then open it? Yes it works, but takes some extra time..
[14:37] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: :D
[14:37] <spe3dy> tdn,  i noticed that too, yesterday it was crawling
[14:37] <Scunizi> deserteagle, I think you need to create the vm (or  designate it) then change to booting from cd.. and when you click start on the vm it should boot directly to the installer for xp.
[14:37] <ompaul> !nickspam > ^garfield2^Off
[14:37] <tdn> It is horribly slow at this moment.
[14:37] <Creationist> Is it possible to play MIDI files in Linux?
[14:37] <|Dede|> I need help with getting Direct rendering to work, This is the error that occurs "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[14:37] <tdn> spe3dy, is it being DoS'ed or something?
[14:37] <TuxIce> |Dede| google it
[14:37] <ColdBeer> ikonia, how can i see if im using inetd or xinetd?
[14:37] <spe3dy> tdn,  no idea
[14:37] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:37] <spe3dy> could be anything really
[14:37] <bachelorboy> spe3dy, actually there is just the latest Sun's JDK installed, but there is also the default installation of Java that comes with the Ubuntu installation
[14:37] <ikonia> ColdBeer: well, you only use 1, so see which one is installed
[14:37] <jrib> Jockeo: I'm pretty sure, you can't do what you asked.  At least not with the default software
[14:38] <Jockeo> jrib: ok thanks then I know, won't waste time looking further :)
[14:38] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: oh, well see i already have a windows installation
[14:38] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: ah yes thats right just a sec
[14:38] <cratel> I want to tailor what color a pushbutton is when it is pressed in my theme. How do I do this?
[14:38] <TuxIce> ColdBeer: System>Administration>SYnaptic Package Manger Then click search and type in inetd click search see if it has a green box
[14:39] <Scunizi> deserteagle, are you trying to use an existing xp install to boot into vmware server?
[14:39] <^^MAg^^> launchpad is down ?
[14:39] <spe3dy> no
[14:39] <ycy> hi there
[14:39] <spe3dy> just slow
[14:39] <ycy> rm: WARNING: Circular directory structure.
[14:39] <deserteagle> Scunizi: other way around, vmware in ubuntu to run winXP
[14:39] <ycy> This almost certainly means that you have a corrupted file system.
[14:39] <ycy> any ideas?
[14:39] <FloodBot1> ycy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <TuxIce> !quit
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <mRSerii> someone here use zen karnel or has hp laptop?
[14:40] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: are you a member of the disk group
[14:40] <kelvin911> anyone try "free the fish" ?
[14:40] <Scunizi> deserteagle, right but are you trying to run an existing xp install in a vm inside of ubuntu
[14:40] <TuxIce> quit So long and thanks for all the fish!
[14:40] <VoidedCheck> two for two, TuxIce
[14:40] <Filled-Void> Hi all, How may I log the mesaages that come when I run wine app.exe ? I tried wine app.exe > a.txt but that seems not to work.
[14:40] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: then skip to "Running Other Operating Systems From Physical Partitions" on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server?highlight=%28vmware%29#head-1d6597545354aeae94dd051e8dc0048d4a475a57
[14:40]  * delcoyote hi
[14:40] <TuxIce> VoidedCheck huh?
[14:40] <VoidedCheck> trying to quit?
[14:41] <mRSerii> filled, "open aplication with..." and then select wine windows emulator
[14:41] <deserteagle> Scunizi: yes
[14:41] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to change window manager everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace but it resets back to no windows on login again
[14:41] <jrib> Filled-Void: command &> file
[14:41] <Filled-Void> jrib, I missed the & sign :D
[14:42] <jrib> Filled-Void: the messages are probably getting printed to stderr.  > redirects onle stdout
[14:42] <bachelorboy> TuxIce, do u know any administrative apps that check performance and maybe suggest any best practices?
[14:42] <VoidedCheck> TuxIce be gone
[14:42] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: yeh, read that page. not particularly useful
[14:42] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: system > preferences > sessions then add "metacity --replace" to startup apps
[14:42] <deserteagle> =\
[14:42] <vinicius> how can i find out the ip address from my wireless router?
[14:42] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, did that same thing
[14:42] <TuxIce> VoidedCheck: yes i am
[14:43] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: and you went here http://www.venturecake.com/a-simple-guide-to-using-your-existing-windows-install-apps-in-ubuntu/
[14:43] <Scunizi> deserteagle, I'd use partimage to make a copy of your xp partition before attempting this.. there are a couple of how to's on the web but when I tried it .. it was disasterous.. borked my entire windows install.
[14:43] <mRSerii> someone here can connect to my computer and help me to fix wireless problems?
[14:43] <Filled-Void> jrib, thank you that works :D
[14:43] <bachelorboy> thanx for your time people! bye
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: have you tried doing alt+f2 once you have just logged in and entered metacity then type "gnome-session-save@
[14:44] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins.. how do i do it/
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: I mean "gnome-session-save"
[14:44] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, nope
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[14:45] <kelvin911> anyone has video flickering when playing movie ??
[14:45] <kelvin911> is it compiz related issue?
[14:45] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, alt + f2 is terminal ?
[14:45] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: alt+f2 does a little run dialogue
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: its so that if you do it in a terminal it wont open the terminal also after each login
[14:46] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, which is kinda like mini terminal ?
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> as above
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> up to you flu
[14:46] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-session-save works in terminal too ?
[14:47] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: yeah but now it'll load a terminal once you login each time also
[14:47] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: yep, read that, can't boot into my winxp partition though :(
[14:47] <ysk> i have kubuntu 8.4 beta and i want GNOME desktop what to do?
[14:47] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, okay thanks
[14:47] <Paddy_EIRE> hence the alt+f2 method FluxD
[14:47] <ikonia> ysk: install the hadry beta, and support for hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[14:47] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[14:47] <bartmon> Hey guys. A bit offtopic but i have problems with my WAN connection. Do you know of any good stress tests for them?
[14:47] <ikonia> !offtopic | bartmon
[14:47] <ubotu> bartmon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: it aint an exact science yet either so I would not expect it to be 100% I would also not recommend doing so either as it is potentially destructful
[14:48] <mattywarr> [sory if this appears twice - connection to irc timed out] is there an easy way to install php and apache?
[14:49] <FluxD> !lamp mattywarr
[14:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp mattywarr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <Scunizi> !lamp | mattywarr
[14:49] <ubotu> mattywarr: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:49] <mattywarr> thanks :)
[14:50] <Creationist> How do I play MIDI files in Linux?
[14:50] <FluxD> Creationist, xmms ?
[14:50] <Col^> Creationist, vlc player should do the job
[14:51] <Col^> But yeah, i think the standard media players have the ability
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Creationist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[14:52] <Creationist> FluxD, Col^ - Yeah, neither of those work.
[14:52] <Col^> Oh, ok
[14:53] <Col^> I'm sorry, i thought they did
[14:53] <bent_> Hey, #ubuntu, I'ma returning user, and I've had a uphill battle with my broadcom wireless. I don't even see a interface for it yet! I've tried ndiswrapper, and the b43 firmware, and neither worked... and I clean installed between those. Restricted software isn't showing anything from Broadcom, but it did help me fix my nvidia card... is there something I missed?  I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02).
[14:53] <FluxD> !medibuntu | Creationist
[14:53] <ubotu> Creationist: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:53] <VoidedCheck> broadcom is notorious for their suckage
[14:54] <VoidedCheck> can't help you, but just letting you know lots of ppl have problems with broadcom routers
[14:54] <Born2Develop> join #ubuntu-nl
[14:54] <mattywarr> when 8.04 LTS gets released, will you be able to update from 7.10 through the update manager?
[14:54] <FluxD> bent_, I believee I had the same card I got it workin fine with ndiswrapper
[14:54] <FluxD> mattywarr, yes
[14:54] <Scunizi> mattywarr, yes
[14:54] <mattywarr> wow
[14:54] <DIL> bent_, i gave up with my linksys card and bought a netgear that worked out of the box $20 tigerdirect
[14:54] <mattywarr> < - new to linux but loving it!
[14:55] <bent_> FluxD: Well, I tried that from apt-get, and installed some drivers... then ended up removing that and compiling, and nothing.
[14:55] <onca> how do I discover what package, a file is part of?
[14:55] <Paddy_EIRE> mattywarr: just so you know a clean install is *always* better..
[14:55] <astro76> onca: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[14:55] <FluxD> bent_, you have to compile it yourself the repo version sucks
[14:55] <onca> astro76: thank ye.
[14:55] <spas> mattywarr, alt+F2; gksu update-manager -d
[14:55] <mattywarr> ok, thanks for the tip Paddy_EIRE
[14:55] <bent_> DIL: I guess I have to look through my boxes of wires for the little USB netgear thing I bought a long long time ago.
[14:55] <aseeon> I have a big problem, but lets start from the beginning. I have two Sound Cards, almost not working onboard integreted HD Audio and the USB Audio SoundCard from Creative. I had a problem playing sound with mplayer but when i disabled the chip of the onboard card it helped. But i do not have sound on Youtube and other flash movies.
[14:55] <mattywarr> and spas
[14:55] <aseeon> How to fix that ?
[14:55] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[14:55] <carpark> hi, i'm having trouble connecting my krzr km1 phone to moto4lin
[14:56] <bent_> Kay, thanks #ubuntu. I'ma go on a hunt now.
[14:56] <Siph0n> carpark, what service do u have?
[14:56] <cyzie> aseeon, u want to use the usb card or u want to use onboard sound ?
[14:56] <carpark> Siph0n: verizon wireless
[14:56] <aseeon> usb one
[14:56] <aseeon> i want to use it with everything
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, first by disable onboard sound card in the bios. this is a must
[14:57] <aseeon> i have done it
[14:57] <aseeon> so now mplayer plays correctly
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, hav eyou done disable it in the bios?
[14:57] <FluxD> bent_, http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/get-wi-fi-working-on-dell-inspiron-1501-with-ubuntu/ (thats not for broadcom drivers but intel, but thats the tutorial I used)
[14:57] <aseeon> yes i disabled it in bios
[14:57] <Creationist> Is there any way to setup a GUI media player (vlc, Amarok, etc) to play MIDI files?
[14:57] <Siph0n> carpark, http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/KRZR_K1
[14:57] <cyzie> aseeon, so now mplayer has the right sound but other ?
[14:58] <FluxD> Creationist, what error you get?
[14:58] <Siph0n> carpark, tho im not sure if that will work for Verizon... I have a verizon motoslvr, and could never get it to work... :(
[14:58] <aseeon> As far as i can tell onfly flash movies does not play sound right
[14:58] <aseeon> only*
[14:58] <cyzie> aseeon, how did you install the flash ?
[14:58] <Vadi> My friends X server crashes everytime the screensaver comes in and when he goes to change the screensaver too. What's the terminal command to change it without doing a preview?
[14:58] <aseeon> though Firefox
[14:58] <carpark> Siph0n: thanks for the link, i tried using those instructions last night and got close (but didn't get it to work). i'm going to try it again though, tweak things a bit maybe
[14:58] <Paddy_EIRE> bent FluxD this is the best guide I have found all in all for the inspiron 1501 http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[14:59] <cyzie> aseeon, dont do that, use synaptic or apt-get
[14:59] <aseeon> ok, so how to fix this now ?
[14:59] <cyzie> first by remove it in the firefox, then use synaptic to install it.
[14:59] <Creationist> FluxD: No errors.  vlc just doesn't play anything.  Opens the file and immediately closes it again.  But I just did a Google for it (which I should have done first, sorry) and see that xmms has a plugin for it.  So I'll try that now.
[14:59] <FluxD> Paddy_EIRE, I dont have an inspiron :)
[14:59] <carpark> Siph0n: oh! what does "install cdc_acm support from the kernel" mean and how do i do it? i've been confused on that part.
[14:59] <Siph0n> carpark, ok.... how about BitPim ? Have you tried to use that??? Their web page says it supports the K1m. http://bitpim.org
[14:59] <Paddy_EIRE> FluxD: oh.. nm
[15:00] <Siph0n> carpark, sorry I dont know about cdc_acm
[15:00] <aseeon> cyzie: and do you know where firefox keeps plugins ?
[15:00] <carpark> Siph0n: that's ok, thanks for the bitpim link, i'll check and see if that works too. thanks for the help!
[15:00] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[15:01] <cyzie> aseeon, try go to add-on and check it
[15:01] <aseeon> i only have an option to turn it off
[15:01] <aseeon> and not to uninstall it
[15:02] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice, how do I write a "b" with a "~" above it?
[15:02] <cyzie> aseeon, would it help if you disable first, then shutdown the firefox and then start again and uninstall ?
[15:03] <aseeon> i will try
[15:03] <SuperRoach> anyone used kmobile tools on ubuntu before? having trouble setting it up
[15:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !kubuntu | SuperRoach
[15:03] <ubotu> SuperRoach: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[15:03] <Siph0n> carpark, I found this btw, modprobe cdc_acm , to load the cdc_acm module....
[15:04] <TheDarKiller> hey, I just recently installed Ubuntu on my old Dell C600. Everything went fine, but suddenly, my battery stopped working, and I was told I should update my BIOS. Now, I found this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dell_BIOS_Upgrade and followed it. But when I reboot now, it tells me I don't have any battery inserted. Any help appreciated :)
[15:04] <carpark> Siph0n: ooh, that's that? I'm sorry, i don't know what any of the computer jargon means :)
[15:05] <Siph0n> carpark, type "sudo modprobe cdc_acm" , without the quotes in a terminal... and than try moto4lin again....
[15:05] <Haru> if i want to take a printout of a high res image on several a4 sheets w/o providing any margins or tumble.. how do i do it???
[15:05] <okanime> hi people! im a newbie
[15:05] <carpark> Siph0n ok, thanks a bunch!
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarKiller, I have ubuntu on three c series dells and none have had a problem..  There is a problem with the charging circuit on those laptops.. and No, I never upgraded the bios on mine
[15:06] <TheDarKiller> Oh.
[15:06] <okanime> i want to start running ubuntu or kubuntu on my laptop. any advice please?
[15:06] <aseeon> and now i do sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, what model of laptop
[15:06] <cyzie> aseeon, no
[15:06] <Col^> okanime, you can start to see if it's supported
[15:07] <astro76> !install | okanime
[15:07] <ubotu> okanime: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:07] <okanime> HP Pavilion DV5000 running AMD Turion
[15:07] <Col^> and, if there are any, which problems it might have with ubuntu
[15:07] <aseeon> cyzie: then what do i do now ?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[15:07] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:07] <recon> Is there a command-line equivlant of GNOME's 'log out' button that brings up a menu?
[15:07] <TheDarKiller> Well, the primary problem is that the battery is charged (checked by removing it from the bay and pressing the button), but the computer is not using it (if I remove AC Adapter, it does not power on)
[15:08] <cyzie> aseeon, try install this libswfdec0.3
[15:08] <TheDarKiller> It says 'charging' in Ubuntu, always at 0%.
[15:08] <okanime> i have a turion 64 mobile chipset with a ATI Radeon 200M 2GB RAM, 120GB HDD
[15:08] <okanime> i think it handle it right?
[15:08] <TheDarKiller> I also tried to switch the battery from the left bay to the right.
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDarKiller, check carefully the little connections on the edge of the battery and in the laptop itself..
[15:09] <Col^> okanime, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[15:09] <cyzie> aseeon, make sure u restart FF after you done install it.
[15:09] <okanime> Col^ Thanks
[15:09] <ChaosTheory^> How can I make SumatraPDF running under Wine my default .pdf viewer?
[15:09] <aseeon> aptitude does not found it
[15:09] <okanime> going there now
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, yes it can handle it, have you tried the livecd yet?
[15:09] <aseeon> this package
[15:09] <TheDarKiller> I know it is quite pointless to ask in here, but this is the only place I can think of help from.
[15:09] <Col^> you're welcome
[15:09] <berent> has anyone installed flexible flash editor and working on it??
[15:10] <astro76> TheDarKiller: there's #hardware
[15:10] <berent> has anyone installed flexible flashplayer and working on it??
[15:10] <aseeon> maybe you ment libswfdec-0.6-90?
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> aseeon, have you enabled the souce for it?
[15:10] <berent> has anyone installed "flexible" flashplayer and working on it??
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !info  flashplugin-nonfree
[15:10] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> berent, Please stop repeating
[15:11] <Oprtz> when i play a DVD *.vob file in totem player it plays it but when i forward it, it says Internal Error, data flow error, what is that?
[15:11] <ChaosTheory^> How do you make a program running under Wine the default program if it doesn't show up under "recommended applications" through right click?
[15:11] <Orbixx> Oprtz: Try mplayer
[15:11] <cyzie> asseon, it is from http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[15:11] <ChaosTheory^> I don't think I can directly link to it since the .wine directory is hidden.
[15:11] <okanime> ubuntu or kubuntu which is better?
[15:11] <aseeon> Jack_Sparrow: when i install flashplugin-nonfree it does not work with my USB Audio soundcard
[15:11] <Oprtz> i dont have mplayer? can i find in ADD/REMOVE programe
[15:11] <aseeon> cyzie: but aptitude only found newer version
[15:12] <VoidedCheck> wine creates desktop icons, so I don't see why not
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, install ubuntu and you can add the kde "Kubuntu" desktop and select between them when you login
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> aseeon, /join #Alsa
[15:12] <ChaosTheory^> Okay, I figured it out, thanks. =D
[15:12] <Oprtz> Orbixx:  opss i have Mplayer installed, when i play video file with it, it opens and crashes suddenly and disapear the player..........
[15:12] <cyzie> aseeon, try that
[15:12] <Bravewolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63833/
[15:12] <Bravewolf> any tips?
[15:12] <aseeon> trying
[15:12] <okanime> ah! i didnt know i could do that
[15:12] <okanime> thatnks
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, please describe the issue and avoid posting just a link
[15:13] <okanime> can i run some of my old apps like dreamweaver?
[15:13] <Col^> okanime, it depends, if you want a thin desktop, or a bit heavier like GNOME, i think it comes down to, whether or not your system handles GNOME all right
[15:13] <okanime> i google and peeps were having probs with it
[15:13] <Col^> okanime, windows apps?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, not dreamweaver.. but check this out
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[15:13] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:13] <blotto> how do you see post install msgs (the ones that pop up with you emerge)
[15:14] <Valtiel-I> hi people
[15:14] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: error in the post install script of acpid.
[15:14] <aseeon> cyzie: nope still does not have sound
[15:14] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threthen me he would send those and tody I cannot boot with my machine
[15:14] <Valtiel-I> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:14] <astro76> blotto: Ubuntu doesn't use emerge
[15:14] <aseeon> i will try on #Alsa
[15:14] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: impossibility to upgrade acpid in hardy
[15:14] <blotto> astro76: where do you live jokr. hehe
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, thanks.. now post that info with your link and wait for an answer
[15:15] <cyzie> aseeon, can u paste the result, dpkg -l | grep -i flash ?
[15:15] <blotto> for me it is one; i am thinking stopping using tor on freenode, because it is unusable (for me)
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bravewolf, are you running hardy or gutsy
[15:15] <Bravewolf> Jack_Sparrow: hardy
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[15:15] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:15] <blotto> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:16] <bent_> Eh, couldn't find my wireless card.
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> ,,,
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> ???
[15:16] <astro76> blotto: it would seem that you're the joker now wouldn't it
[15:16] <Valtiel-I> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:16] <VoidedCheck> blotto the clown
[15:16] <VoidedCheck> it fits
[15:16] <blotto> astro76: solved my lumbar sprain. is weird
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Valtiel-I, please dont repeat...
[15:16] <aseeon> ii  libswfdec-0.6-90                           0.6.4-2                       SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[15:16] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threaten me he would send those and today I cannot boot with my machine
[15:16] <blotto> who use warcraft 3 in wine ?
[15:17] <astro76> !ops | blotto
[15:17] <ubotu> blotto: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> нуы
[15:17] <jewjew> Should I have to do anything besides drag fonts into my fonts folder and refresh the font cache to install fonts?
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> yes
[15:17] <okanime> hey dudes thanks a lot for the infos, now i know what to do. yo'all great! heard about this site on BBC Click Online. I will drop by soon and spend more time here. Yo'all be good. Peace out!
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> i have a problem
[15:17] <astro76> !font | jewjew
[15:17] <ubotu> jewjew: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> okanime, come back any time
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> people who trying to connect if i create
[15:17] <blotto> ubotu: conditional comments.  they usually are
[15:17] <Amaranth> blotto: Please keep the offtopic chatter out of this channel
[15:17] <Valtiel-I> can't do this
[15:17] <CriSiS> good afternoon ;)
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> astro76, I am right here.. no need to wake everyone up
[15:17] <blotto> thanks
[15:18] <CriSiS> one quick question, please
[15:18] <cyzie> aseeon, it's not working.. that's just strange
[15:18] <CriSiS> UUID=002CA2552CA2458E /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8 0 1
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> morning Amaranth
[15:18] <Amaranth> morning Jack_Sparrow
[15:18] <CriSiS> this is my fstab line for an ntfs partition
[15:18] <Valtiel-I> and i can't to connect but i see create games
[15:18] <blotto> /msg dpkg reference (and 'apt howto') ;-)
[15:18] <FluxD> dont paste here!
[15:18] <CriSiS> how can i make it writable by user?
[15:18] <boulboul> bonjour  je veux téléchargé le tutoriel du siteduzero php/MaySQL comment faire merci
[15:18] <blotto> $sql = 'INSERT INTO `paypaldonate` (`id`, `name`, `amount`, `address`, `date`, `email`, `anonymous`) VALUES (\'asdfa234ad\', \'quentusrex\', \'12\', \'asdfasdf\', \'2008-04-12 21:23:01\', \'asdfa\', \'1\')';   How do I change that code so that it'll use the string value of $name for the name field???
[15:18] <Valtiel-I> what's a problem ?
[15:18] <FluxD> !fr | boulboul
[15:19] <ubotu> boulboul: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:19] <Oprtz> when i play a DVD *.vob file in totem player it plays it but when i forward it, it says Internal Error, data flow error, what is that? Also i have Mplayer and VLC installed when i play video file with them, open the player but crashed/disapaer immediatly, can only play videos in totem player but it also has errors... please sugges me
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Seveas
[15:19] <Seveas> hey
[15:19] <Oprtz> !paste
[15:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:19] <astro76> Oprtz: using compiz? what video card?
[15:19] <Seveas> could be just me, but blotto smelled like a bad eliza
[15:19] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone know how to access a printer that's on the wireless network?
[15:19] <ompaul> Seveas, na don't think so
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> It's directly connected to a computer running WinXP.
[15:20] <Oprtz> astro76:  yes i am using compiz with Intel 946GZ Express Chipset 128MB vga
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, run mplayer and or vlc from command line and look for the error
[15:20] <Siph0n> ChaosTheory^, cups?
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> Siph0n: Cups?
[15:20] <VoidedCheck> !cups
[15:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:20] <astro76> Oprtz: I would try without compiz
[15:20] <Seveas> ompaul, well, most elizas make more sense than him :)
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, how did you install the restricted extras.. you didnt use any scripts or odd how-to's did you
[15:20] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  in terminal use this command ? vlc and press enter?
[15:20] <ChaosTheory^> VoidedCheck: Okay, thanks. I'll take a look at that.
[15:20] <ompaul> !samba | ChaosTheory^ you get dreadful o/s to share it and then you use a samba client to access it
[15:20] <ubotu> ChaosTheory^ you get dreadful o/s to share it and then you use a samba client to access it: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, should work
[15:21] <PriceChild> ChaosTheory^: make sure the windows machine is sharing it (right click it and click sharing etc. etc.) then its pretty easy to find from system > admin > printing in ubuntu
[15:21] <Oprtz> ok wait
[15:21] <ChaosTheory^> PriceChild: Okay, I'll go and do that.
[15:22] <dhude> what are "surprise packages"? yesterday some dude threaten me he would send those and today I cannot boot with my machine
[15:22] <bazhang> dhude: what exact error are you getting
[15:23] <dhude> no boot
[15:23] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63834/
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dhude, did you run something they sent you
[15:23] <dhude> the machine just doesn't do anything
[15:23] <dhude> nope, IAhaven't accepted anything
[15:23] <bazhang> dhude: how old is this machine
[15:23] <dhude> about 1,5 yers
[15:23] <dhude> years
[15:23] <titusg> I used apt to upgrade my laptop on Friday and since then it won't boot. The progress bar gets all the way to the end but then it just hangs. I can boot it in recovery mode only. How can I work out what's wrong? (This happened to me before and it was about the ndis kernel module -- booting without the wireless card worked ok but that doesn't help this time, so I don't think it's the same problem...)
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, what about my other questions
[15:24] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:24] <VoidedCheck> unless this "some dude" has root access to your comp, issue is unrelated
[15:24] <SeXsNiPeR> Ciao a tutti !!!
[15:24] <jonathan__> i've a simple problem i think...
[15:24] <bazhang> !it | SeXsNiPeR
[15:24] <ubotu> SeXsNiPeR: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:24] <SeXsNiPeR> ok tnx
[15:24] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  i installed restricted software with the help of this channel , i asked questions and the guys help me, i am new to linux,
[15:24] <jonathan__> I tried to connect a mtp-media player with amarok and it didn't work.
[15:24] <jochmenDS_> try alive cd to see
[15:24] <dhude> okay, thank you, VoidedCheck
[15:24] <bazhang> dhude: with the scarcity of info you are offering there is no telling; sounds like a hardware failure
[15:24] <groken_> i've defined a function in .bashrc however i can only get it to run if i type "bash" before calling the command. otherwise i get a bash error stating that the command was not found. running source .bashrc seems to do nothing
[15:25] <|Dede|> How can I set it so that metacity starts automatically on startup? I uninstalled compiz, and now metacity doesnt start automatically
[15:25] <jonathan__> i now found the reason through typing "mtp-detect" once as user root and once as I'm just logged in with my standard user-name.
[15:25] <dhude> thank you bazhang
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, have you manually changed any of your sources prior to the upgrade
[15:25] <amenado> groken_-> paste the function you created
[15:26] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: no
[15:26] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  do u read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63834/ ?
[15:26] <spe3dy> |Dede|,  just curious, why would you uninstall compiz in favour of metacity?
[15:26] <jonathan__> when i'm logged in as a root it works nice, but if I'm trying the same as a normal user the console says that no mtp-device was found...
[15:26] <bazhang> dhude: you may want to remove the battery and try booting with only ac adapter if this is a laptop; otherwise might check out the #hardware channel
[15:26] <spe3dy> you didnt even have to do that, you could of just disbaled it in the gui
[15:26] <jochmenDS_> hmm low battery
[15:26] <ColdBeer> does anyone have kismet working?
[15:26] <Evil_inside> hi.
[15:26] <jonathan__> how can i solve that problem ?? :)
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, Yes, looked at it briefly  dont see the problem..  someone else will know.. I need my morning coffee
[15:27] <|Dede|> spe3dy: It always flickered when I wanted to play games, and it annoys me to alsways do "metacity --replace"
[15:27] <dhude> it's not a laptop bazhang, thenks
[15:27] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  ok :)
[15:27] <Evil_inside> i need a tftp client to uploade a config to my cable modem.. anyone know about a good tftp client ?
[15:27] <spe3dy> |Dede|,  you can use the appearence menu to disable it
[15:27] <|Dede|> spe3dy: Do you know how I can make metacity default
[15:27] <spe3dy> i just said
[15:27] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  if there is no problem why it disapear then :(
[15:28] <spe3dy> i guess you could just write a small bash script that will do metacity --replace on boot |Dede|
[15:28] <Evil_inside> any tftp client ?
[15:28] <Evil_inside> :P
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> |Dede|, See if #Compix people have an better answer..  it is necessary to turn of effects so those bid games work better..
[15:28] <bazhang> |Dede|: how about setting desktop effects to none in appearances
[15:28] <groken_> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d1566d7ec
[15:28] <spe3dy> bazhang,  thats what i said
[15:28] <bazhang> spe3dy: well said
[15:29] <bent_> wah! I hate broadcom.
[15:29] <spe3dy> or a bash script can do metacity --replcae on boot for you
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> or write a script to run the game that turns off effects for you
[15:29] <spe3dy> #!/bin/bash; metacity --replace
[15:30] <Evil_inside> some tftp client ?
[15:30] <bazhang> |Dede|: listen to spe3dy and Jack_Sparrow
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> |Dede|, you cant have it both ways..
[15:30] <astro76> Evil_inside: aptitude search tftp (or search in Synaptic)
[15:30] <Evil_inside> Alguien conoce algun tftp client?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[15:30] <Evil_inside> astro76 gracias.
[15:30] <Evil_inside> :P
[15:31] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:31] <Evil_inside> lol
[15:31] <Evil_inside> thanks.
[15:32] <Gnimsh> hi everyone
[15:32] <spe3dy> hi
[15:32] <cow_2001> can desktop sharing be used through the internet or only through the local network?
[15:32] <jewjew> Evil_inside: give me a sec
[15:33] <ProN00b> uuhm, can anyone tell me why my newly created totally empty ext3 filesystem got 46gb space "used" ? (shows up as 931 total, 46 used)
[15:34] <Evil_inside> jewjew ok
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, HOw did you create it
[15:34] <bazhang> ProN00b: what part of the disk is the partition on
[15:34] <astro76> cow_2001: it will work over the internet... the only difference is if you are using a router you will have to forward the appropriate port(s)
[15:34] <spe3dy> jewjew, LOL
[15:34] <spe3dy> nice name
[15:34] <ProN00b> Gparted
[15:34] <amenado> groken_-> try to use the full path for the commands
[15:34]  * bent_ continues a broadcom fight. Now with 3 pages of documentation!
[15:34] <larry_> any one know of a better movie player than movie player
[15:34] <cow_2001> astro76, can i set it to accept only local connections?
[15:34] <VoidedCheck> bent_, gl with that
[15:34] <ChaosTheory^> Okay, I can print, but everything is coming out . . . mirrored?
[15:34] <ProN00b> bazhang, i think its using the whole disk...
[15:35] <spas> larry_, xine?
[15:35] <Evil_inside> jewjew
[15:35] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, using gparted
[15:35] <bazhang> larry_: vlc
[15:35] <amenado> bent_-> way to go dude...persistence
[15:35] <astro76> cow_2001: are you using a router?
[15:35] <larry_> ok thanks
[15:35] <nomad> larry, depends of your need, but vlc, totem are good enough
[15:35] <jewjew> Evil_inside: tftpd seems to work pretty well
[15:35] <VoidedCheck> mplayer is godly
[15:35] <Evil_inside> tftpd
[15:35] <cow_2001> astro76, that particular box is DMZed
[15:35] <ethand> larry: go with VLC
[15:35] <larry_> ok well i just want to wach movie's on it
[15:35] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com Evil_inside
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, and after gparted created the partition it shows that much used? or that much or your total tb is not available
[15:36] <Evil_inside> but i need a client
[15:36] <Evil_inside> not server
[15:36] <jewjew> Evil_inside: I depends on what you're looking for
[15:36] <astro76> cow_2001: then you would need to use some mechanism on the linux box to block attempts from outside the lan (like iptables)
[15:36] <jewjew> Evil_inside: OH sorry
[15:36] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone have any ideas
[15:36] <ChaosTheory^> ?
[15:36] <cow_2001> i see.
[15:37] <Ego> I've got a bit of a problem. I had a wubi installation and moved it with LVPM to a real partition. Now I notice he is using the GRUB loader from the new partition but he keeps loading the virtual Ubuntu and I can't get GRUB configured to load my new real one.
[15:37] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, gparted shows 7.53gb used, but when i rightklick it in /media it shows the real size gparted gave me too, and that 46gb are used
[15:37] <cow_2001> astro76, thanks
[15:37] <amenado> Evil_inside-> atftp
[15:37] <astro76> cow_2001: or perhaps hosts.allow
[15:37] <Evil_inside> atftp
[15:37] <Evil_inside> ?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, Please copy and paste this into a term  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:38] <Evil_inside> let me check..
[15:38] <ethand> ego:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:38] <bazhang> Evil_inside: we have given you options where to search please do so thanks
[15:38] <cow_2001> astro76, thanks
[15:38] <Evil_inside> ok
[15:38] <Evil_inside> thanks
[15:39] <jewjew> Evil_inside: I haven't tried that.  Putty may do tftp
[15:39] <Evil_inside> hmm
[15:39] <titusg> I removed quiet splash using a live cd to see what's making my laptop hang when booting (I tried all the kernel on there) but there are no errors that I can see
[15:39] <amenado> Ego-> dont boot from windows at next boot, use the new one on the second partition
[15:39] <titusg> how can I troubleshoot it now?
[15:39] <Oprtz> guys can i rotate cube up and down?
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, did livecd boot ok?
[15:40] <Ego> I am using the new one, because the list in the grub config file on the new partition is the one I get first
[15:40] <amenado> titusg-> what was the fault during boot?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Oprtz, no
[15:40] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: yes, fine.
[15:40] <Oprtz> Jack_Sparrow:  ok thanks
[15:40] <Ego> ethand: yeah I know I can edit them in grub to but I tried all possible partitions hd0,1 to hd0,4 and it still loads up the virtual installation
[15:40] <ordinateur> j #ubuntu-fr
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> titusg, ok.. just asking..
[15:40] <ProN00b> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/f2b3639ad
[15:40] <amenado> Ego-> how do you verify it is the virtual installation?
[15:40] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :-)
[15:40] <Shiri_> hi fstab does not mounts at boot nfs shared direktories -wth, wtdo ?
[15:41] <dell_> help anyone, i just installed kismet and got it working, yet when i end it, it knocks me off my wifi at home, how to i reestablish connectivity?
[15:41] <groken_> amenado: that seemed to work
[15:41] <groken_> thanks
[15:41] <Ego> because I can access the new disk as a seperate drive
[15:41] <amenado> groken_-> you're welcome
[15:41] <titusg> Jack_Sparrow: Actually now I see an error, re timidity -- cannot open shared object file libSM.so.6
[15:42] <Widget> Ubuntu 8 comes with KDE4 ?
[15:42] <ikerc_> dell you must configure kismet
[15:42] <amenado> Ego-> perhaps you are already booting on your hd?  you have installed so it must be booting from the new drive, ifyou want, you can remove the 1st drive to test that it does go to the second one
[15:42] <ikerc_> Widget,  haha
[15:42] <riley> no it doesn't come with kde4
[15:42] <Starnestommy> Widget: by default, it has Gnome 2.22 installed
[15:42] <astro76> Widget: it's 8.04, discussion for it in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[15:42] <groken_> amenado: is there a way to run the commands in a directory without making the term i'm in cd to that dir (as my code currently does)?
[15:42] <astro76> Widget: but it will have the option for both 3 and 4
[15:43] <Ego> ok, thank you amenado
[15:43] <Widget> lol, i knew it came with gnome and that kbuntu has kde.. but thought i read that ubuntui 8.04 shipped with it :P
[15:43] <amenado> groken_-> just use the full path /where/the/script/command/resides/command
[15:44] <titusg> can I use the live cd to stop using timidity? What are the alternatives?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ProN00b, I am still a bit sleepy so pardon my asking again.. but which partition are we talking about
[15:45] <ethand> I'm trying to print from gedit and it crashes everytime..has anyone encountered this problem?
[15:45] <groken_> amenado: in this case, the python i call looks at the current dir you are executing in to run. i would prefer to keep the python code i'm running standard and unmodified from the svn repository
[15:45] <ethand> **funny thing is that it gets printed, gedit just crashes
[15:45] <Shiri_> hi fstab does not mounts at boot nfs shared direktories -wth, wtdo ?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, Not a common problem.. run it from terminal and look for an error
[15:46] <sdakak>  have got moinmoin, doku and mediawiki installed. You people told me to try all out and see what I like. I can't make up my mind. Please help me choose one. I will tell how I am going to use it if someone seems interested.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[15:46] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[15:46] <amenado> groken_-> it is always best to use the full path when you are in a script, as the environment or shell may changed and you have not exported everything
[15:46] <ethand> jack_sparrow: thanks. I got an error just cant find anything in google about it
[15:46] <ethand> ^^ a solution that is
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, post the short version of the error in the channel.. and are you running ubuntu gutsy and not another release
[15:47] <amenado> groken_-> it does not change the code from svn repository, you are merely pointing the executable script from the svn repo directory
[15:47] <astro76> sdakak: how are you going to use it?
[15:47] <sdakak>  Installation is not a problem. I have got all three installed correctly. So one uses a db and others not is not in question. My wiki is going to gather articles for a newsletter. peer-editing is not a very great requirement. But admins being informed when there is a new submission is. The wiki needs to be organized well, so that it is easy to categorize the articles. I should also able to tag them - to make search easier. What say?
[15:47] <sdakak> astro76: ^
[15:48] <groken_> amenado: i get what you are saying, but the args that the python takes which is called from the shell script expects the arg to be a subfolder of the current working directory
[15:49] <unclemike> does ubuntu have pulseaudio
[15:49] <Seveas> unclemike, yes
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sdakak, that would be a better discussion for the #Ubuntu-offtopic room
[15:49] <Seveas> as of ubuntu 8.04
[15:49] <xomp> is there a seperate channel for support on edubuntu?
[15:49] <bazhang> unclemike: the next release
[15:49] <Seveas> xomp, #edubuntu
[15:49] <amenado> groken_-> even you do cd to that directory, you can still use the full path
[15:49] <xomp> thanks Seveas :)
[15:49] <sdakak> Jack_Sparrow: relocating :(
[15:49] <earthian> Hello, why dosemu-freedos is so badly broken? :(
[15:50] <bazhang> earthian: what are you trying to do and what errors are you getting please describe with some details
[15:50] <groken_> amenado: are you saying i should pass the python the full path as an argument? i'm don't think it will allow that
[15:50] <LainIwakura> My CPU temp is constantly at around 50 C even though I'm using Fluxbox. Firefox-bin takes up a lot of resources,  I think. What is a good lightweight alternative?
[15:50] <bent_> Meh. I give up on broadcom.
[15:51] <bent_> LainIwakura: To firefox? I like Epiphany, but I'm a gnome user, and I have GTK always loaded.
[15:51] <earthian> bazhang, the package dosemu-freedos depends on dosemu and conflicts at the same time or so
[15:51] <amenado> groken_-> why not? try it, btw,  you have cd $PWD/django_projects/... well what happens ifyou were in a different dir? your $PWD would change yes?
[15:51] <LainIwakura> bent_: Ok, thanks.
[15:51] <ethand> jack_sparrow: GnomePrintCupsPlugin-Message: The ppd file for the CUPS printer mastroianni could not be loaded.
[15:51] <bazhang> earthian: I had two questions
[15:51] <amenado> bent_-> awws.you gave up, i had high hopes for you..
[15:51] <bent_> LainIwakura: If you're fond of QT, Knonquer is okay. If you hate graphics, lynx still exists.
[15:51] <unclemike> so right now no working pulseaudio
[15:52] <groken_> amenado: oohh, i see what you were saying about pwd, i fixed that already :) i'm trying to pass a full path now
[15:52] <ethand> i'm using dapper at work. I dont have access to the cups server, so i'm looking for a local fix
[15:52] <LainIwakura> bent_: Lynx... a little "too" lightweight :D But thanks for your suggestions.
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ethand, Can I assume the printer works in other apps?  and what about my other question about what release/distro you arer using
[15:53] <earthian> bazhang, i am trying to use mkrboot to create a bootable dos flash disk
[15:53] <bent_> amenado: After the 5th re-install of ubuntu in 2 days... compiling ndiswrapper 3 different times, using 6 different drivers, and some firmware grabber... eh.
[15:53] <amenado> LainIwakura-> there is also the  w3m
[15:53] <ethand> jack:  yes, from what i googled, its a known bug with some gnome/gtk apps. im using dapper
[15:53] <bazhang> earthian: for what purpose please
[15:53] <ethand> jack:  all my other apps print ok
[15:54] <amenado> bent_-> only the 5th? thats normal, when doing trial and error, and specifically with broadcoam chips 43xx  :)
[15:54] <jewjew> LainIwakura: links2 is probably the most lightweight if you want pictures
[15:54] <earthian> bazhang, bios upgrade if that helps anyhow to solve the problem with dosemu-freedos ¬¬
[15:54] <groken_> amenado: i got it working, thanks again!
[15:54] <amenado> bent_-> but i can relate to the pain..
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, I have never had a problem with the bcm43xx, I always used fwcutter to do the work
[15:54] <bent_> amenado: Well, the first two were before I cared about wireless... using wubi on defragmented drives does not work.
[15:54] <amenado> groken_-> cool ... you're welcome
[15:54] <morgan> Ubuntu 8.04 is amazing
[15:55] <bazhang> earthian: ah a bios upgrade.
[15:55] <matt444> hello.  If I change the permissions of a folder, will that apply to all files IN the folder, including files that have yet to be moved to the folder?  If not, how do I achieve this goal?
[15:55] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Cool, because... alas, I don't have that broadcom model. And neither do most people.
[15:55] <amenado> bent_-> but you see some are luckier than us..hehe
[15:55] <jrib> matt444: no.  Why do you want to achieve this?  give more details
[15:55] <unclemike> when 8.04 supose to be released
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, std issue in most old dells
[15:55] <bazhang> 4 days unclemike
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> unclemike, very very soon
[15:56] <bent_> matt444: If you're using gnome, there's a button that applys permission to enclosed files...
[15:56] <matt444> jrib:  i want another device on my network to be able to delete files in this folder.
[15:56] <matt444> bent_:  i don't want to have to change permissions every time I move files to the folder.
[15:56] <bent_> matt444: I think that should work.
[15:56] <unclemike> so if i install 7.10 can i upgrade to 8.04 as of now
[15:56] <xomp> #edubuntu is deader than a door nail :(
[15:56] <amenado> matt444-> also nice to create a dummy directory with subdirs, toy with it, so you can learn the power of chmod, chown, and access list ..just do it, and see the effect of changes you make
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> unclemike, not the release version...
[15:56] <bazhang> unclemike: best wait four days
[15:56] <earthian> bazhang, if you would know a way to do this I would be very very thankful! :p
[15:57] <unclemike> k
[15:57] <jrib> matt444: you only need write permissions on the parent directory to delete a file.  You don't need permissions on the file
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, is that the 943?
[15:57] <bent_> xomp: Well, edubuntu is really just ubuntu with some extra apps.
[15:57] <amenado> matt444-> another device to delete? devices are block or character files ...do delete another file?
[15:58] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Yup, infact. BCM94311MCG
[15:58] <matt444> amenado: could you refrase that, i don't understand your question
[15:58] <xomp> bent_, yeah, I know :) I just don't want to get yelled at here for asking a question because it's "not the appropriate channel" :/
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, let me see if I have any info on that..
[15:58] <astro76> xomp: it's fine.. in fact starting in 8.04 edubuntu isn't a separate distro anymore, but an ubuntu add-on
[15:59] <amenado> matt444-> you said you want another device to delete files? that does not happen..a device cant be deleting files
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> bent have you seen this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607378
[15:59] <bent_> I still call kubuntu an addon. :P
[15:59] <xomp> astro76, cool :) I just need help with adding users that are "restricted" or "Unprivledged" if that makes sense.
[15:59] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: back again, i'm thinking screw it, i'll just do a clean install of winxp for a vm
[15:59] <bazhang> xomp: wasnt really yelling; just directing to a channel that might be more helpful
[15:59] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: best bet :)
[15:59] <astro76> xomp: whatever method you use to add a new user, they will not be in the admin group by default, i.e. no sudo access
[16:00] <astro76> xomp: you can add them through system > admin > users and groups
[16:00] <matt444> amenado:  i'm not talking about /dev/ stuff.  another device that's attached to the network.  it has an IP address, but it is not a computer.  It can delete files, I've done it.  I just want to do it in the future without having to change file permissions every time I move a file to this directory.
[16:00] <bent_> xomp: Well, if you add users to specific groups... etc...etc, you can limit them to nearly nothing.
[16:00] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: i can play games inside virtualbox / vmware right?
[16:00] <xomp> astro76, I have created a user account for my daughter as "Unprivledged" but when I click the "Advanced" tab I notice her "Main group" is empty. Should I change that to any particular group?
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: no
[16:00] <deserteagle> D+
[16:00] <deserteagle> D=
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: dual boot
[16:00] <jrib> matt444: you only need write permissions on the parent directory
[16:00] <deserteagle> but... but... but...
[16:00] <deserteagle> :{
[16:00] <astro76> xomp: on ubuntu the main group is typically a group with the same name as the user
[16:00] <jewjew> deserteagle: not well, and no directx games
[16:01] <matt444> jrib:  thanks, i'll give this a shot.
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: if you must play games that it
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> *is
[16:01] <xomp> bent_, yeah, I'm just trying to restrict them from breaking anything hahah my daughters are 8 & 9 years old
[16:01] <deserteagle> i must have at least C&C Generals ;_;
[16:01] <christopher> hello
[16:01] <jrib> matt444: what you were originally asking can be accomplished with ACL (Access Control Lists), but I don't think it's necessary here
[16:01] <deserteagle> and hitman 2
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: check compatibility with winehq.. failing that try cedega its very cheap
[16:01] <amenado> matt444-> am curious what kind of device this is? you allow it to delete a file on your system, does it log on first?
[16:01] <deserteagle> :D
[16:01] <astro76> xomp: without being in the admin group, they can't do anything outside their home directory by default
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, here is one other...   http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[16:02] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi
[16:02] <bent_> xomp: I'm not shure I'd be opening the terminal and removing all the stuff... but the easiest "not destroy stuff" method is to remove the terminal... and not let them out of their home directory...
[16:02] <xomp> astro76, ok, that should be good enough. I will log in with her account to check permissions :)
[16:02] <matt444> amenado:  media streamer.  It has an IP address.  it accesses the files via samba.  it has to use a samba password.
[16:02] <WIDESPREADpanic> bent_ chroot jail
[16:02] <titusg> I think my boot problem isn't about timidity, it's the missing so file libSM.so.6 -- there's no such file...how can I fix that?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, had you seen either of those links
[16:03] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: I looked at that, and followed it, and still nothing in the 3rd iteration. It just asks to compile by hand, and use a driver I was allready using. Sorry.
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> Jack can i ask u a question?
[16:03] <mRSerii> .ח #ונומאו-64
[16:03] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: when setting up a new hdd in virtualbox, i should tell it the same exact size as my existing ntfs partition right?
[16:03] <titusg> this is as a result of applying upgrades to gutsy amazingly enough
[16:03] <amenado> matt444-> now i can comprehend, its an application that log on and then allowed to delete, the way you said it, threw me off, a device allowed to delete..
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> Jack_sparrow
[16:03] <WIDESPREADpanic> u got time for a quick ?
[16:03] <stk0verflow> hey, can somebody help me here setting hot keys in Sony Vaio?
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: if you are planning on running games the vm will not cut it.. infact I doubt it will work for games at all
[16:04] <stk0verflow> plz pvt me if so
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, I know multiple people that have used tohse pages and gotten their 943's to work
[16:04] <VoidedCheck> yeah the vm graphics driver leaves something to be desired
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[16:04] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[16:04] <amenado> WIDESPREADpanic-> married man are known to practice quickies..haha
[16:04] <spe3dy> ?
[16:04] <Jowi> anyone know how to set up a grub entry to boot USB keys? for the arguments sake, let's say that /dev/sdb is always a bootable enabled fat16 key.
[16:04] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Hm. I guess I'll just do another clean install and follow that.
[16:04] <xomp> thanks everyone, I'm going to try logging in their accounts now :)
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > WIDESPREADpanic
[16:04] <bazhang> parallels may have rudimentary graphics for games though
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: I would also format the ntfs partition as vmware will create the windows installation/image on your existing fs
[16:05] <deserteagle> Paddy_EIRE: no worries, i only really need it for 2-3 apps that don't seem to run well under wine (one is a .net app that will launch but not run, another is photoshop untill i can install gimpshop and i forgot the other one)
[16:05] <serge4> hello, anyone know, how to remove broken packages?
[16:05] <Leonidas_> Hello everyone
[16:05] <amenado> Jowi-> just like any entries on your menu.lst  it must have the vmlinuz and initrd image to reside on that particular partition
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: photoshop 7 works very well in wine
[16:05] <bent_> serge4: Synaptic has a fix packages thing that I had to use once...
[16:05] <spe3dy> deserteagle, you can run .net apps with mono i do believe
[16:05] <WIDESPREADpanic> help : after i run kismet, it knocks me off my  wifi, and it did a ifconfig wlan0 -promisc, and took it out of promisc mode, yet i have to reboot to connect back to my wifi, any ideas?
[16:05] <quesada> what IRC client do you recommend?
[16:05] <mute> hey all im having trouble with my webcam
[16:05] <VoidedCheck> xchat
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: although I have shifted to gimp and inkscape myself
[16:05] <tomd123> serge4, go to synaptic and click on the package that is broken and choose remove
[16:06] <deserteagle> spe3dy: i ready that a few times, i'll give it a shot
[16:06] <Leonidas_> yeah xchat
[16:06] <Starnestommy> quesada: xchat or irssi
[16:06] <mute> anyone point me in roght direction?
[16:06]  * deserteagle googles inkscape
[16:06] <[azrael]> hi, how do i get newsgroups on thunderbird work "could not find the server" is coming all the time
[16:06] <bent_> quesada: Gnome, KDE, or other?
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[16:06] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:06] <quesada> bent: xfce
[16:06] <SeaPhor> what is the command for updating the package manager list?
[16:06] <VoidedCheck> sudo aptitude update
[16:06] <serge4> ﻿tomd123, yes but it seems that broken packages are not installed .
[16:06] <bent_> quesada: Well, I'm fond of GTK, so, the Gnome XChat does it for me.
[16:06] <[azrael]> hi, how do i get newsgroups on thunderbird work "could not find the server" is coming all the time
[16:06] <serge4> ﻿serge4, maybe those package are in cache..
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> deserteagle: inkscape is for vector graphics like adobe illustrator and xara xtreme
[16:06] <Pelo> morning folks
[16:07] <Leonidas_> morning
[16:07] <deserteagle> morning!
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, caution using non-supported repos
[16:07] <quesada> I'm using xchat now. Is there any way to get nicks with different colors?
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> mourning Pelo
[16:07] <bent_> [azrael]: What newsgroup are you using?
[16:07] <bent_> ... dumb question.
[16:07] <Leonidas_> hey is sudo ap-get the same as sudo aptitude?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> quesada, yes, it is in the available options
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> quesada: xchat or xchat-gnome
[16:07] <Jowi> amenado, I tried that. problem I encountered is that disk(1,0), which I believe is /dev/hdb is not recognised by grub
[16:07] <Pelo> anyone know how I can get those lines of text that display during boot  with various error msg  ?
[16:07] <fahadsadah> Leonidas_: No, aptitude is better
[16:07] <bent_> [azrael]: What isp are you using for your newsgroups?
[16:07] <quesada> Jack_Sparrow, xchat
[16:07] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE, long time no see
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[16:07] <Starnestommy> Leonidas_: close, but aptitude when run with no arguments has an interactive interface
[16:07] <bazhang> Leonidas_: makes no difference apt-get or aptitude
[16:08] <Leonidas_> ?
[16:08] <Leonidas_> haha
[16:08] <deserteagle> Pelo: virtual terminal one i think
[16:08] <Leonidas_> Ok
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo: I have no idea what I have been doing... >_>  lost the head again I guess :D
[16:08] <Pelo> deserteagle, crtl alt f2 ?
[16:08] <deserteagle> yep
[16:08] <deserteagle> shows mine
[16:08] <Leonidas_> I just did sudo apt-get update and sudo aptitude update and it was exactly the same
[16:08] <deserteagle> err, Pelo: F1
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE, JUst like swimming, you will remember.. or drown
[16:08] <[azrael]> bent_ i tried some like de.comp.os.unix.linux none is working...
[16:08] <[azrael]> 119 i think
[16:08] <VoidedCheck> of course it does
[16:08] <Leonidas_> maybe it makes a difference with different apps?
[16:08] <fahadsadah> Leonidas_: The real difference is when you need to remove something
[16:08] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: I'll probably attack it later. I'm too happy transfering most of my hard drive from another computer at 7.1mbs.
[16:08] <VoidedCheck> updating a package list is updating a package list
[16:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: yeah... lol
[16:09] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow: i just did a fresh install and my xchat is old
[16:09] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: just found out about sftp. :P
[16:09] <quesada> Jack_Sparrow, I can't find the nick colors settings in the options
[16:09] <xomp> ok, all seems to be well other than an issue with my xorg.conf not being read properly in her user account. I can't enable "Customized" effects with CCSM :(
[16:09] <Leonidas_> How do you guys make your names a different color when you are talking directly to me>?
[16:09] <Starnestommy> Leonidas_: like this?
[16:09] <goodhabit> Hello. After chaning monitor to widescreen bootsplash looks very stretched. How to fix it?
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, DOnt worry about the latest xchat. use the one from our repos that is tested and works
[16:09] <Leonidas_> yes
[16:09] <VoidedCheck> we don't your client does
[16:09] <Pelo> deserteagle, crtl alt f1 it is , thanks
[16:09] <Starnestommy> Leonidas_: say someone's nick at the start of a line
[16:09] <deserteagle> :)
[16:09] <VoidedCheck> your chat client sees your nick and "highlights"
[16:09]  * Pelo now only needs to figure out how to copy that stuf 
[16:10] <bent_> [azrael]: Have you configured thunderbird for your isp's settings? Mine's news.verizon.net ... for example.
[16:10] <Leonidas_> Starnestommy hello
[16:10] <Leonidas_> did that work?
[16:10] <Starnestommy> Leonidas_: yes
[16:10] <deserteagle> Pelo: i think it should be in a log somewhere
[16:10] <fahadsadah> Leonidas_: I could use colours, but it would probably get me banned
[16:10] <fahadsadah> Testing
[16:10] <Pelo> deserteagle, my boot log is always empty
[16:10] <[azrael]> bent_ i have no idea
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, dmesg ?
[16:10] <Shepherd> Leonidas_, oh my god a highlighted name RUN!
[16:10] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, how do I use that ?
[16:10] <Leonidas_> Shepherd haha
[16:10] <Starnestommy> fahadsadah: the color blocking mode +c is set on most freenode channels
[16:10] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow: how do i do that? the one i had before auto-completed with tab, this one just displays a list ?
[16:11] <fahadsadah> Damn!
[16:11] <Leonidas_> Starnestommy got it now thanks
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, type another letter or two, this is a busy place
[16:11] <titusg> I'm having problems with apt now, after booting in recovery mode...tried to reinstall X, but apt fails every time with "pre-removal script returned error 127"
[16:11] <bent_> [azrael]: Well, you can't just type in that news group to login. Your ISP... usually... offers a news group server that you have to use. What isp do you have?
[16:11] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  nvm, got it
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, sorry I wasnt faster
[16:11] <Leonidas_> Have any of you had to get a Creative Zen Vision M running?
[16:11] <[azrael]> bent_ forget it i don't know anything
[16:11] <Starnestommy> quesada: have you tried settings > preferences > interface > textbox > textbox appearance > Colored nicknames?
[16:11] <Leonidas_> I can't seem to get it working correctly
[16:12]  * Pelo came in the channel, asked a question , got a quick answer and learned something,  this community stuff is awesome 
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[16:12] <bent_> [azrael]: What company do you pay for internet? :P
[16:12] <dublpaws> [azrael]: Leonidas_ I have a zen V Plus running, fwiw
[16:12] <Pelo> !helpersnack Jack_Sparrow deserteagle
[16:12] <Pelo> !helpersnack Jack_Sparrow
[16:12] <VoidedCheck> isp news servers though tend to have lame retention and usually don't carry the good binary groups
[16:12] <Pelo> !helpersnack deserteagle
[16:12] <bazhang> hehe
[16:12] <Leonidas_> dublpaws what is fwiw?
[16:12] <_aeGIs> I've installed AbiWord and would like msword mime type ICONS associated with it but can't seem to figure out how.  I've done the actual mime type assication, and it opens Abiword fine... However, it still uses the OpenOffice icon which I do not like... Any ideas?
[16:12] <bazhang> someone needs a |
[16:12] <fahadsadah> !helpersnack fahadsadah
[16:12] <Pelo> bot dead again apparently
[16:12] <bent_> [azrael]: The other... much simpler option is to use groups.google.com, and be done.
[16:12] <dublpaws> Leonidas_: for what it's worth
[16:12] <_aeGIs> assication = association
[16:13] <fahadsadah> !helpersnack fahadsadah
[16:13] <[azrael]> bent_ what a §(%=) question
[16:13] <quesada> Jack_Sparrow, thanks that works
[16:13] <xomp> when I run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in my admin account, will any changes I made take effect on other user accounts? Because after i did that command it fixed compiz for me, now when I log in under my daughters account, I get "Can't enable effects", which is the same message I was getting before the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and since she has a restricted account, I can't run this command :(
[16:13] <Pelo> !helpsnack | Jack_Sparrow deserteagle
[16:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpsnack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, you killed our bot..
[16:13] <Leonidas_> dublpaws i see
[16:13] <deserteagle> what's a helpersnack?
[16:13] <bazhang> !helpersnack | Pelo
[16:13] <ubotu> Pelo: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:13] <Pelo> sigh,
[16:13] <deserteagle> oh
[16:13] <Pelo> bazhang, thanks but I haven'T done anything ;-),   today anyway
[16:13] <Leonidas_> dublpaws I tried using gnomad 2, amarok, and rythembox, they all recognize the player, but they crash and run slow and you know, just... buggy
[16:14] <bazhang> Pelo: you were overdue ;]
[16:14] <bent_> xomp: I'd hope they do.
[16:14] <ethand> oops. is there a way to reinstall grub. I deleted my linux partition on my dual boot, i didn't realize that would wipe away the mbr also
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, even if you dont know the answer, helping people form better questions helps us all.
[16:14] <xomp> bent_, hope they can run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[16:14] <Godfather> http://rafb.net/p/fQI5wm15.html
[16:14] <bent_> ethand: Well, there is a grub bootable disk that you can use.
[16:14] <Leonidas_> Oh, by the way if the guys are in here that gave me those link the other night it's greatly appreciated!
[16:14] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, ;-)
[16:14] <bent_> xomp: I don't think so, I could check on my computer.
[16:15] <_aeGIs> I've installed AbiWord and would like msword mime type ICONS associated with it but can't seem to figure out how.  I've done the actual mime type association, and it opens Abiword fine... However, it still uses the OpenOffice icon which I do not like... Any ideas?
[16:15] <Godfather> is this under the monitor section or just plain at the botom of the conf file?
[16:15] <ethand> bent: what do you recommend?
[16:15] <xomp> bent_, that's alright, I can try. I haven't assuming they wouldn't be able too, but you never know haha
[16:15] <bent_> xomp: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root"
[16:15] <ubuntu-newb> hello
[16:15]  * Pelo rubs "export DISPLAY:=0 && firefox" in  Jack_Sparrow face 
[16:15] <bent_> xomp: You're okay.
[16:15] <xomp> bent_, ah, ok.
[16:15] <murlidhar> ubuntu-newb, hello
[16:15] <xomp> bent_, any clue how I can run that command under their account as root?
[16:16] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, much better :-))
[16:16] <WIDESPREADpanic> help : after i run kismet, it knocks me off my  wifi, and it did a ifconfig wlan0 -promisc, and took it out of promisc mode, yet i have to reboot to connect back to my wifi, any ideas?
[16:16] <ubuntu-newb> I have a question I hope someone has an answer to
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, good
[16:16] <Leonidas_> LSG thanks for all your help the other night.  : >)
[16:16] <xomp> bent_, I've tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it prompts me for my daughters password, which has no admin/root privs.
[16:16] <ubuntu-newb> it seems VERY simple, I feel like I've spent 3 hours with the solutioon under my nose, but don't know how to get it working
[16:16] <AlexQ> Hi. Where can I find the Intel Grpahics Media Accelerator Chipset driver for Ubuntu? On intel site I could only find the RPM...
[16:16] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, have  u installed hardy?
[16:16] <bent_> xomp: Well, I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to do that in an admin account... but you could make that account a sudoer for a bit, I guess.
[16:16] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, do you know of a gui ftp server?
[16:16] <Pelo> ubuntu-newb,  jsut ask the question, this is a busy chanenl as you can see
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, Yes on one of my spare machines
[16:16] <bent_> xomp: It affects the whole computer.
[16:17] <rainarrow> Hello everyone, how do I choose which flash-plugin to use if I've got multiple ones installed?
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, Sorry.. no, I dont ftp much
[16:17] <xomp> bent_, ok, my user account is admin and I did "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it didn't effect this new user account I just created :(
[16:17] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, cuz i am having troubles with internet in hardy . it doesn't work when i boot from hardy kernel
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > murlidhar
[16:17] <deserteagle> rainarrow: flip a coin :P
[16:17] <Pelo> rainarrow, flash -config I beleive
[16:17] <Godfather> http://rafb.net/p/fQI5wm15.html
[16:17] <Godfather> is this under the monitor section or just plain at the botom of the conf file?
[16:17] <ubuntu-newb> Gotcha. I'm running Gutsy on an old Dell desktop. I initially installed it at an office behind a firewaall (using proxy) and later took it home. initially I couldn't get online until I removed the proxy from the settings, etc. After doing so I was able to get online. that was 2-3 days ago
[16:17] <bent_> xomp: Really? That's odd. Well, I guess the "make her a sudoer" plan would work, just remember to flip that switch back.
[16:18] <xomp> bent_, ok, thanks :)
[16:18] <ubuntu-newb> later I tried to add that desktop's MAC physicall address to my router so help with internet access rules I had at home. but ever since that, I can't get back online
[16:18] <Pelo> later folks
[16:18] <amenado> Jowi-> i went to get coffee... try to run in command line  grub and then  root (  press tab twice to look for your bootable grub entries
[16:18] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: is it wireless?
[16:18] <Auctionedllama> Hi guys
[16:18] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, i know but i could find anybody who could help me . since  u have always helped selflessly i am asking for u a favor
[16:19] <rainarrow> Pelo, thanks but there's no command "flash"
[16:19] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, i know but i couldn't find anybody who could help me . since  u have always helped selflessly i am asking for u a favor
[16:19] <bent_> ubuntu-newb: Personally, I have no idea, but if you have like... more than one network interface, enshure that you are using the right mac address?
[16:19] <larry_> anyone know if there is a newer distro than 7.10 that is stable that is out yet
[16:19] <ubuntu-newb> also I tried playing around with Roaming mode/DHCP/Static under Network Manager, but could see that it registered an IP address from my router, and had a Subnet mask, but never could Ping google.com or anywhere else. It's ethernet, not wireless
[16:19] <bent_> larry_: Fedora 8? :P
[16:19] <Starnestommy> larry_: 8.04 will be out in a few days
[16:19] <Jowi> amenado, thanks. will have a look
[16:19] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: are you using wifi?
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, Can you get on irc with it or no internet at all.
[16:19] <dublpaws> ok
[16:19] <mehmet> how can i force quit firefox? but it is responding.
[16:19] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, i am able to use internet when i boot from gutsy kernel
[16:19] <ubuntu-newb> well this desktop does have 2 ethernet ports. 1 is built into Motherboard, which I don't know if it still works, the other is a separate ethernet card,which I plug into
[16:19] <larry_> kool 8.04 is unbuntu rite
[16:19] <mehmet> i just got rick rolled and now it wont shut off
[16:19] <Starnestommy> yes
[16:20] <Auctionedllama> How can I enable my 3d Acceleration for my ATI X1650? I have my card functioning and have the right resolution, but whenever I enable the xserver-xgl file to use compiz, I get horrible FPS on all windows, and firefox looks terrible when I scroll. Any help would be great as to how I get rid of this "mesa" curse.
[16:20] <blotto> doh.. forgot to close my function.. what an idiot
[16:20] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, no internet at all
[16:20] <ubuntu-newb> I have wifi on that Linksys router, but the desktop is plugged Ethernet
[16:20] <rainarrow> lemme explain a little more of my situation: I just install hardy today, and select that 3rd plugin (neither Gnash or Adobe) for flash when prompted by Firefox
[16:20] <larry_> boy that was a dumb question
[16:20] <wi-fi> SCARICARE
[16:20] <bent_> mehmet: Open a terminal, hit top, look for firefox, and then look for the number... hit ctrl-c, then type sudo kill (number).
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, are you running full hardy or did you try to just add the kernel
[16:20] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: I'd try hard resetting the router
[16:20] <bent_> larry_: There are no dumb questions.
[16:20] <rainarrow> I've forgot the name of that plugin, but later I found it doesn't work well, so I installed flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get
[16:20] <bent_> larry_: Unless you spell them wrong.
[16:20] <rainarrow> but seems my Firefox is still using the other flash plugin now
[16:20] <ubuntu-newb> yeah I was about to do that, I was wondering if you guys can tell me to run some commands from Termainal to diagnose the problem
[16:21] <Auctionedllama> How can I enable my 3d Acceleration for my ATI X1650? I have my card functioning and have the right resolution, but whenever I enable the xserver-xgl file to use compiz, I get horrible FPS on all windows, and firefox looks terrible when I scroll. Any help would be great as to how I get rid of this "mesa" curse.
[16:21] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: ifconfig  might tell you something usefull
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Auctionedllama,  /join #Compiz
[16:21] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, first i fresh installed hardy with an alternate cd , it didn't have any internet connecttion . so again i had to install gutsy and then upgrade it to hardy
[16:21] <Auctionedllama> thanks jack_sparror
[16:21] <mehmet> bent_: what number?
[16:21] <rainarrow> I tried dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree to no avail
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:21] <blotto> I have a somewhat strange question... I recently installed gutsy (new computer forced me to upgrade) and suddenly there is no option to turn the computer off
[16:22] <rainarrow> deserteagle, do I need a specific type of coin for this?
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, what kind of network card?
[16:22] <ubuntu-newb> yes I ran that already, my eth0 shows an IP registered. 192.168.2.118
[16:22] <bent_> mehmet: Well, when you run "top" it lists all programs running. In the row where firefox is, there is a number on the far left. Kill that number.
[16:22] <ubuntu-newb> but like I said if I do  - ping google.com, I get nothing back, it just sits there
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> rainarrow, did you uninstall gnash?
[16:22] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, ethernet
[16:22] <bazhang> blotto that is an interesting question; please pastebin your sources.list thanks
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, make and model of network card please
[16:22] <blotto> you tried what I suggested yet? please pastebin your sources.list to see if that is the issue
[16:22] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, lspci gives me 01:05.0 Ethernet controller: MYSON Technology Inc SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter
[16:22] <amenado> ubuntu-newb-> try not to use same router as gateway for your two nic cards, or else your packets gets confused as to which gateway to use, (you have to use diff route tables if you really want to)
[16:23] <bent_> mehmet: " 7099 bent      20   0  728m  59m  22m S    4  6.4   0:49.88 rhythmbox"  you'd kill the first number.
[16:23] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, it is an intex card
[16:23] <rainarrow> Jack_Sparrow, I didn't install gnash in the first place, there's a new plugin beside the adobe one and gnash in hardy
[16:23] <bazhang> blotto please stop now
[16:23] <xu> ko
[16:23] <rainarrow> Jack_Sparrow, and that's what I chose to install at first
[16:23] <amenado> ubuntu-newb-> also  paste in pastebin your  route -n
[16:23] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: have you tried pinging a plain IP address ?
[16:23] <ubuntu-newb> yeah I think the problem is with the Gateway. but how do I configure that?
[16:23] <rainarrow> Jack_Sparrow, and the worse is I can't remember the name of that plugin...
[16:23] <xu> kgdjlgdgdgd
[16:23] <murlidhar> blotto, where is france , in america or asia ?
[16:23] <xu> gdgd
[16:23] <xu> gfd
[16:23] <xu> dgd
[16:23] <ubuntu-newb> Pastebin? what's that
[16:23] <xu> gd
[16:23] <xu> gdg
[16:23] <FloodBot1> xu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <{g}> Hey People!
[16:24] <{g}> How can I make it that irssi puts something into the title of the terminal it runs in?
[16:24] <{g}> All other applications do.
[16:24] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: here's google PING google.com (72.14.207.99)
[16:24] <dublpaws> maybe a dns issue.
[16:24] <blotto> Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:24] <daning> exit
[16:24] <ubuntu-newb> I pinged 192.168.2.1, and the Pings did go thru, but I don't know if that's a good test
[16:24] <bazhang> blotto is a bot
[16:24] <murlidhar> blotto, where is france , in america or asia ?
[16:24] <blotto> I have a program running that I started via ssh how do I make it continue to run even after I log out?
[16:25] <dublpaws> blotto: screen
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, gimme a sec or two
[16:25]  * kindofabuzz gives Jack_Sparrow
[16:25] <noob13> blotto: run the process in a "screen"
[16:25] <linkinxp> any program similar to PLublisher???
[16:25] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, i will wait
[16:25] <linkinxp> Publisher!
[16:25] <_aeGIs> I've installed AbiWord and would like msword mime type ICONS associated with it but can't seem to figure out how.  I've done the actual mime type association, and it opens Abiword fine... However, it still uses the OpenOffice icon which I do not like... Any ideas?
[16:25] <Stroganoff> {g}: http://www.irssi.org/scripts/scripts/title.pl
[16:26] <blotto>  where is france , in america or asia ?
[16:26] <murlidhar> lol
[16:26] <larry_> ok thanks just that i'm nubie to unbuntu
[16:26] <ubuntu-newb> dublpaws: I pinged that google IP you gave, and it works
[16:26] <{g}> Stroganoff: whats that?
[16:26] <SeaPhor> Ok I have a fresh install of 7.10 32bit - i turned off wpa2 on my router, and i still cant get rtl8185 to work but i think its me and not the machine
[16:26] <rainarrow> Hello guys, anyone running hardy already? What's that new flash plugin available in hardy
[16:26] <ubuntu-newb> so what does that mean? how come ping google.com isn't working?
[16:26] <Stroganoff> {g} what is says
[16:26] <Veinor> For some reason I can't get anything to resolve via DNS
[16:27] <bent_> rainarrow: I'm running 8.04... what about flash?
[16:27] <Veinor> I can connect to things fine via IP addresses, but my dns doesn't seem to work at all.
[16:27] <Jowi> amenado, (hd1,0) is definetley available. I will try to add rootnoverify to it and give it another go. thanks.
[16:27] <ubuntu-newb> amenado: how do you pastebin? tell me how to do this?
[16:27] <AlexQ> Where can I find driver good for OpenGL games for Intel Graphics Chipset? On Intel home page it's only x386 RPM package, but I have AMD64 (so I can't use alien, i tried). How can I get good acceleration? Eg. PlaneShift works totaly bad.
[16:27] <bent_> rainarrow: I installed flash-nofree, and it works in amd64... do you want me to check the version?
[16:27] <goodhabit> Veinor, routes maybe?
[16:27] <Veinor> routes?
[16:27] <gwork> Does anyone know if gimp can't handle Intel Core 2 Duo's? i'm getting core-dumps
[16:27] <goodhabit> bent_, I'm running hardy, flash is ok.
[16:27] <rainarrow> bent_, nope, did you notice there's a NEW plugin other than gnash and adobe?
[16:27] <goodhabit> Vecnah, what kind of internet connections do you have?
[16:27] <Veinor> it works when I boot into windows
[16:28] <Veinor> on this machine
[16:28] <rainarrow> bent_, I need the name of that plugin..
[16:28] <goodhabit> Vecnah, $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:28] <bent_> rainarrow: Not when I quickly looked for flash in synaptic.
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, I cant find anything on that issue.. wish I could help..
[16:28] <tomd123> gwork: gimp works fine here on t5500
[16:29] <bent_> rainarrow: klash is new to me.
[16:29] <thushara> hi
[16:29] <thushara> hahahahahahha
[16:29] <thushara> huhuhuhu
[16:29] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, do u think i should file a bug or is it me that i am missing something
[16:29] <bent_> rainarrow: It's gnash for KDE... that's different. :P
[16:29] <Veinor> Huh. Fixed it.
[16:29] <tiocsti> ive had no problems with gimp on my T7300
[16:29] <murlidhar> !abuse | thushara
[16:29] <ubotu> thushara: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:29] <gwork> tomd123: thanks, i'm using a E6550, any idea how i can analyze what's wrong?
[16:29] <bazhang> thushara: welcome to ubuntu do you have a support question
[16:30] <amenado> !paste | ubuntu-newb
[16:30] <ubotu> ubuntu-newb: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:30] <rainarrow> bent_, thanks anyway, I chose that new plugin at first, then it won't go away even after I installed flashplugin-nonfree
[16:30] <thushara> !abuse | murlidhar
[16:30] <ubotu> murlidhar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:30] <rainarrow> bent_, and I'm trying to solve that
[16:30] <murlidhar> lol
[16:30] <bent_> rainarrow: there's a libflash0c2, and libflashsupport.
[16:30] <dublpaws> ubuntu-newb: it sounds like DNS isn't configured properly at your router, so the domain names aren't being resolved.  You might try setting the DNS address to 10.0.0.1 in the router config.
[16:30] <amenado> Veinor is your /etc/resolv.conf  okay?
[16:30] <bent_> rainarrow: Ooh! what about libflash-swfplayer? That might be the problem.
[16:30] <ubuntu-newb> how do I pastebin from that desktop, I'm chatting in this room using another computer?
[16:31] <omps> hi all
[16:31] <macbook> macbook user needs  chown/sudo/permissions assiatnce. anyone have a moment ?
[16:31] <murlidhar> ubuntu-newb, perhaps a pendrive can help u
[16:31] <p-peter> hi
[16:31] <amenado> ubuntu-newb-> you have to manually enter it on a web browser ifyou can not just cut and paste, its a lil work ,but if you wanted help, you have to do your part
[16:31] <rainarrow> bent_, I'm trying
[16:31] <ubuntu-newb> AHA, Flash drive? smart idea, gimme a sec
[16:31]  * kindofabuzz gives ubuntu-newb
[16:32] <kacey_> I am wondering if anyone here has experience with wine and alsa sound?
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> kacey_, /join #Alsa
[16:32] <VoidedCheck> !jp
[16:32] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[16:32] <kacey_> Thanks
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:33]  * bent_ found the cap to his USB dongole.
[16:33] <rainarrow> bent_, seems it's not that one, I removed libflashsupport, which depends on flashplugin-nonfree
[16:34] <rainarrow> bent_, after which my Firefox still use that ****ing pluging
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bent_, OT but I use a dab of epoxy and epoxy the cap to the metat clip on the strap to keep them together
[16:34] <bent_> rainarrow: Hm. Sorry, I dunno.
[16:34] <rainarrow> bent_, ok, thanks anyway
[16:34] <bent_> Jack_Sparrow: Super. Now I need to find the actual wireless dongole.
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl.. time to make nice with the wife.. play nice
[16:35] <spe3dy> dongole
[16:35] <spe3dy> lol
[16:35] <Kolie> Hello. using ubuntu server here, I already got most of my iptables setup, but im trying to redirect all traffic coming through this computers gateway on a specific lan to another host, trying /sbin/iptables -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.1 but its saying invalid chain name
[16:35] <spe3dy> people still use that word?
[16:36] <bent_> Kay, xchat +compiz fusion+ motion blure is fun!
[16:36] <Lempface> i just installed jedit.. how do i add it to my applications drop down at the top of my screen
[16:36] <bent_> spe3dy: yes. 'cuz that is what it said in the box.
[16:36] <spe3dy> motion blur messes with my head bent_  haha
[16:36] <rainarrow> Anyone know the name of that new flash-plugin(other than adobe and gnash) in 8.04?
[16:36] <joti6> hello everyone
[16:36] <spe3dy> bent_,  yeah its a little crappy name made by ,arketers
[16:36] <spe3dy> *marketers
[16:36] <tomd123> rainarrow: swfdec?
[16:36] <VoidedCheck> blur is one of the truly useless plugins
[16:37] <VoidedCheck> and it amkes me ill
[16:37] <bent_> Lempface: How'd you install it?
[16:37] <VoidedCheck> *makes
[16:37] <Lempface> java -jar jedit.jar
[16:37] <joti6> i've got the ubuntu 8.04 rc server running here, i installed the xen package with xen3.2.0 and experience real slow network troughput from the dom0
[16:37] <spe3dy> to be fair, all the plugins are uselsss, more or less
[16:37] <bent_> It makes me feel special. Or that I have a pbroken screen.
[16:37] <VoidedCheck> well some of the tab plugins are actually useful
[16:37] <VoidedCheck> *alt tab plugins
[16:38] <bent_> "turning up motion blur strength is more painful.
[16:38] <joti6> i've got a gbit if (forcedeth) and i get max. 1,7mb throughput via sftp to another gbit if
[16:38] <Kolie> what is the equivalent of the PREROUTING chain in ubuntu?
[16:38] <rainarrow> tomd123, oh! Thanks, seems it's this one
[16:38] <bent_> Ooh, but turning it down low has a nice effect! do it! Now!
[16:38] <ubuntu-newb> OK guys, I performed route -n, ping that google IP, I went to that Pastebin webpage. which Syntax do I select when I copy & paste?
[16:38] <spe3dy> yeah, super + tab is nice
[16:39] <Lempface> bent_ i installed it with java -jar jedit.jar
[16:39] <bent_> Lempface: Kay, I was sort of quiet because I didn't know,  and was hoping someone else would jump in.
[16:39] <bent_> And motion blur distracted me.
[16:40] <ubuntu> hey once the final release of ubuntu comes out can we just run the update or would we have to download it and install it after a format?
[16:40] <jewjew> Does anyone know how to change the picture used for the show-hide buttons in gnome panels?
[16:40] <spe3dy> ubuntu, you can update
[16:40] <VoidedCheck> you could update, but it's infinitely better to clean install
[16:40] <spe3dy> should work fine
[16:40] <bent_> ubuntu: Running the normal upgrade should be okay.
[16:40] <ubuntu> awesome, thanks
[16:40] <joti6> could anyone give me an idea what might cause the slow networkperformance with xen
[16:40] <spe3dy> i agree with VoidedCheck though, i prefer a clean install
[16:40] <joti6> would be highly appreciated
[16:40] <bent_> Thirded!
[16:40] <ubuntu> ill probably do that then
[16:41] <SeaPhor> Ok I have a fresh install of 7.10 32bit - i turned off wpa2 on my router, and i still cant get rtl8185 to work but i think its me and not the machine
[16:41] <sparr_> [how] can i make apt download multiple files at once?
[16:41] <aimchanger> sparr_: just add the name after the previous one
[16:41] <Valtiel-I> Bad Sector - Negative
[16:42] <Valtiel-I> :)
[16:42] <aimchanger> sparr_:  like this: sudo apt-get install apache firefox
[16:42] <bent_> sparr_: when you type apt-get install... add as many programs as you want.
[16:42] <sparr_> aimchanger: key words, "at once"
[16:42] <aimchanger> sparr_: that will install apache and firefox for example
[16:42] <sparr_> aimchanger: as opposed to "sequentially"
[16:42] <aimchanger> sparr_: yes I know I know
[16:43] <rainarrow> tomd123, it's is the swfdec, I forgot I could just right-click->About to look for the name, how stupid of me
[16:43] <aimchanger> sparr_: I'm not too sure.. it probably would be that much faster anyways
[16:43] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, do u think i should file a bug or is it me that i am missing something
[16:43] <ubuntu-newb> amenado: which Syntax do I use when I paste the output of Terminal into that Pastebin webpage?
[16:44] <Cew27> can anyone here tell me what a release candidate is
[16:44] <tiocsti> syntax is only for highlighting, you can ignore it mostly
[16:44] <sparr_> aimchanger: it would be much faster :(
[16:44] <tiocsti> cew: better than a beta, less than a release
[16:44] <p-peter> Will gnash work correctly for Youtube-player in hardy? last time i trid it the buttons have been crippled
[16:44] <Cew27> can i update from rc to final in 4 days
[16:44] <Lempface> hmm i can't even run jedit from the commandline after install
[16:44] <ubuntu> i just asked that cew
[16:44] <Lempface> says no such command as jedit, but im certain thats the correct command
[16:44] <amenado> ubuntu->  route -n     results is what i wanted
[16:44] <ubuntu> and yes you can
[16:45] <tiocsti> jedit isnt in the base system
[16:45] <VoidedCheck> long as she doan' rain
[16:45] <tiocsti> did you install it?
[16:45] <Unxuxu> hi... how to check how video memory is in use?
[16:45] <Lempface> yes tiocsti
[16:46] <Lempface> used java -jar jedit.jar to install and it worked
[16:46] <tiocsti> what shell do you use? if using csh style shells (tcsh, what have you) try entering rehash then try jedit again
[16:46] <Lempface> but after that jedit doesn't open
[16:46] <murlidhar> Seveas, could u come to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:46] <tiocsti> otherwise, check to see where jedit was installed
[16:46] <murlidhar> Seveas, u are needed there
[16:46] <Unxuxu> hi... how to check how video memory is in use?
[16:46] <kyleky> Is there anyway I can add myself back to sudousers (or whatever that group is called) via ssh
[16:46] <Lempface> using whatever terminal is the base install
[16:47] <kyleky> without hard access or another account
[16:47] <jewjew> Does anyone know how to change the picture used for the show-hide buttons in gnome panels?
[16:47] <ubuntu-newb> ok amenado I think I figured out the Pastebin lol. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63840/
[16:47] <kyleky> I messed up my account permissions by accident
[16:47] <bent_> kyleky: you can edit the sudoers file, but I forgot where that is.
[16:47] <bent_> kyleky: I'ma go look.
[16:47] <ubuntu-newb> amenado: I had to select Bash for the Pastebin syntax, I guess it doesn't matter
[16:47] <kyleky> can i edit that without sudo?
[16:47] <Lempface> how do i rehash tiocsti
[16:48] <ubuntu-newb> amenado: but do you see what is needed from that pastebin address?
[16:48] <Unxuxu> hi... how to check how video memory is in use?
[16:48] <tiocsti> rehash is a shell builtin in *csh
[16:48] <bent_> kyleky: Erm, you might not be able to. But, you can boot into the recovery console, and have root from there.
[16:48] <amenado> ubuntu-newb-> can you use another nick, am tired of typing ubuntu,
[16:48] <kyleky> i think i can do it from there
[16:48] <tiocsti> but it's mor elikely that jedit installed itself somewhere thats not in your path
[16:48] <Unxuxu> hi... how to check how video memory is in use?
[16:48] <kyleky> its just i dont have hard access
[16:48] <ubuntu-newb> amenado: yeah I understand sorry bout that. gimme a sec,
[16:48]  * kindofabuzz gives ubuntu-newb
[16:48] <kyleky> until tomorrow
[16:49] <Lempface> think its /home/lempface/jedit
[16:49] <Unxuxu> hi... how to check how video memory is in use?
[16:49] <bent_> kyleky: Erp! Well, you might have to wait untill then.
[16:49] <bent_> !ask | uxuxu
[16:49] <ubotu> uxuxu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:49] <bent_> ... whoops.
[16:50] <bent_> Unxuxu, wrong factoid.
[16:50] <Unxuxu> bent_ : How can I check how much video memory is in use?
[16:50] <ubuntu> unxuxuL try lspci in terminal s
[16:50] <deserteagle> back
[16:50] <ubuntu> - the s
[16:50] <deserteagle> someone said something to me?
[16:51] <Lempface> what is the executable file i'm looking for to run jedit? im pretty new to linux
[16:51] <spe3dy> looooong ago
[16:51] <Unxuxu> ubuntu: ok.. tks... I will try it
[16:51] <bent_> gigantor: yay, another fios user. :P
[16:51] <sparr_> let's say im downloading ten packages.  nine 1MB packages from a fast repository, and one 1MB package from a slow repository.  for the sake of argument, let's say that "fast" is 90kB/s and "slow" is 10kB/s.  apt is going to spend 100 seconds downloading the first nine packages, then 100 more seconds downloading the last package.
[16:51] <sparr_> if i could get apt to download both at the same time, and pessimistically assuming that I have a bandwidth cap of 90kB/s, the whole process would only take 111 seconds, instead of 200 seconds.  does that shed light on my goal?
[16:51] <Unxuxu> ubuntu: this commando does not tell me about memory
[16:52] <bent_> sparr_: Unless they are linked, just install them seperately?
[16:52] <bazhang> sparr_: does not work that way
[16:52] <ubuntu> hold please
[16:52] <Unxuxu> bent_ : How can I check how much video memory is in use?
[16:52] <sparr_> bent_: how does that help?
[16:52] <sparr_> bazhang: does not work [the way im looking for]?
[16:52] <bazhang> sparr_: indeed not
[16:52] <tiocsti> lemp; i would guess find /usr -name jedit but i dont use jedit, so it's tough to say
[16:52] <sparr_> bazhang: i could swear ive seen apt showing multiple download progress meters at the same time, without my asking it to
[16:53] <scotti1> amenado: it's me ubuntu-newb
[16:53] <tiocsti> lemp: that should display all the files named jedit (eventually)
[16:53] <bazhang> sparr_: but that is outside your control
[16:53] <sparr_> bazhang: :(
[16:53] <scotti1> amenado: did you look at my pastebin?
[16:53] <bent_> sparr_: Well, download what you want from the fast repo first, then the other stuff later. But, it tends to not work that way, instead going in the order you wanted to do them. If you are really in a pickle, you could download .deb files from somewhere else.
[16:53] <amenado> scotti1-> okay..yeah the route table looks okay, now lets see the contents of  /etc/resolv.conf
[16:53] <Lempface> tiocsti, it ran from a /usr/jedit/jeditver/java -jar jedit.jar
[16:54] <sparr_> bent_: the order does not affect the total time, in the sequential example.
[16:54] <Lempface> anyway to add that to the shell or to my applications menu drop down at top of screen
[16:54] <sparr_> bazhang: so far, in my experience, "outside your control" with apt means "[un/poorly] documented feature"
[16:54] <ubuntu> try googling it unuxu
[16:54] <amenado> scotti1-> btw you can ping 72.14.207.99  so it seems its okay now?
[16:55] <soc> hi
[16:55] <sparr_> bazhang: and the people with the most apt experience are distro snobs  :(
[16:55] <bazhang> Unxuxu: what is your goal with video memory usage
[16:55] <scotti1> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63842/
[16:55] <soc> i'm trying to compile a list of wireless producers ...
[16:55] <scotti1> amenado: let me ping that, 1 sec
[16:55] <soc> ﻿intel, broadcom, atheros, zydas ... which ones are missing?1
[16:56] <bazhang> soc: there are long online lists already; several hundred of them in fact
[16:56] <scotti1> amenado: yes I pinged 72.14.207.99 and it works
[16:56] <Unxuxu> bazhang: I dont know how much video memory has in this pc...  Its not mine.
[16:56] <p-peter> apt-get moo
[16:56] <sriramoman> i installed some new programs yesterday(mainly games and all officially supported) and since then cpu speedstepping is no more supported in powersave.
[16:56] <bazhang> Unxuxu: what is the card lspci will list that
[16:56] <Unxuxu> bazhang: I just want to know...  intel 915g
[16:57] <bent_> sparr_: When I use apt, I get two files downloading at once, in the order they were listed. You still have to wait for the last file to finsish. Eh, sorry, don't understand what is wrong with apt at this point.
[16:57] <sriramoman> what library do i need to (re)install to enable speedstepping back?
[16:57] <VoidedCheck> aptitude -v moo
[16:57] <bazhang> Unxuxu: okay just a second please
[16:57] <p-peter> lol
[16:57] <Unxuxu> bazhang: tks.
[16:57] <sparr_> bent_: my apt does that sometimes.  but not always.  and when it doesnt, things go slower.
[16:57] <soc> bazhang: i'm looking for the most popular ones ...
[16:57] <VoidedCheck> aptitude -vvvvv moo
[16:58] <VoidedCheck> super snake powers
[16:58] <soc> i fear that i missed one or two ...
[16:58] <SeaPhor> is there a good network manager for wireless in the repos?
[16:58] <vicky123> hi
[16:58] <sparr_> SeaPhor: you dont like nm-applet?
[16:58] <sparr_> try knetworkmanager
[16:58] <ng0n> xserver-xorg is the package i reconfigure with sudo dpkg-reconfigure.
[16:58] <errpast> laptop recommendations for Ubuntu? I just want it to work
[16:59] <ng0n> question: who do i call that routine for SOUND card ?
[16:59] <tiocsti> M1330
[16:59] <errpast> $500-%800
[16:59] <sparr_> i switch back and forth between them.  they have similar wireless options, but maybe one will be better for you.  i switch because both have different VPN bugs
[16:59] <SeaPhor> sparr_, not configureable, wont allow me to tell it no encryption
[16:59] <bazhang> http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/301467.htm pdf here Unxuxu
[16:59] <tiocsti> or a lower end ubuntu dell laptop
[16:59] <tiocsti> not sure whats available in that price range
[16:59] <ng0n> how do i call 'reconfigure' of sound card ?
[16:59] <errpast> m1330
[16:59] <djouallah> is it possible to install ubuntu in a flash disk from windows xp ?
[17:00] <errpast> is that what you use?
[17:00] <SeaPhor> sparr_, and it wont scan for networks
[17:00] <bent_> sparr_: I guess I've been spoiled with a fiber connection, never quite got the "long waits" that made me think.
[17:00] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com has the answers djouallah
[17:00] <tiocsti> i like laptops, i have more than 1 :) but i have a 1330 yeah
[17:00] <djouallah> ok bazhang  thanks
[17:01] <amenado> scotti1-> so it works okay now? no more issues?
[17:01] <scotti1> amenado: should I reset ubuntu back to original default out-of-box network settings? if so, how do I do this, because I thought ever since I tried to mess with the default Roaming mode under Network Manager, and tried to set that ethernet card to DHCP or Static, that I screwed something up. what do you think? Is my Resolv.conf correct? I'm just trying to connect it to the Router, nothing special.
[17:01] <errpast> ok, I just gg. that's about a grand. I could do that
[17:01] <errpast> did wireless work out of box.
[17:01] <zvacet> SeaPhor :  you can try this http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[17:01] <vicky123> is that possible to install XP again after Linux and again use linux?
[17:01] <scotti1> amenado: no. like I said, that IP address you gave, I was able to ping.
[17:01] <tiocsti> errpast, get the ver with ubuntu preinstalled, everything works
[17:01] <bazhang> vicky123: sure but you then need to fix grub
[17:01] <scotti1> amenado: but for some reason if I go to Firefox I can't load anything. likewise I cannot ping google.com or yahoo.com
[17:01] <HymnToLife> vicky123: yep, just reinstall GNUB
[17:01] <HymnToLife> GRUB*
[17:01] <sriramoman> when i use a kde-based app like konversation and i open a url, it opens thru openoffice instead of firefox. how do i change this?
[17:02] <amenado> scotti1-> well for one, ethernet connection do not need roaming, so you are okay, just save a copy of this working /etc/network/interfaces file
[17:02] <vicky123> how can u plz tell me
[17:02] <Unxuxu> bazhang:   LOL... this model can hang too many memories amounts... I need to know via OS, how much memory is in use... Is it so hard to discover?
[17:02] <Unxuxu> dammmn it
[17:02] <VoidedCheck> !grub
[17:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:02] <HymnToLife> !grub | vicky123
[17:02] <ubotu> vicky123: please see above
[17:02] <tiocsti> errpast: www.dell.com/ubuntu -- the m1330 is on their list of ubuntu machines now
[17:02] <ng0n> no sound in lubuntu with new MB.  how doi call sound module reconfigure screens ?
[17:02] <Rods_Tiger> I've been told that in the OS called "Windows" there's a software called "Sandra" which does diagnostics, testing, profiling and such like. What does that in Ubuntu?
[17:02] <scotti1> amenado: do you want me to pastebin me interfaces file?
[17:02] <amenado> scotti1-> lets try this  type  dig www.yahoo.com
[17:02] <errpast> tiocsti, thanks a lot.  I like to hack, but am out of work now, and have little hacking time
[17:02] <errpast> appreciate it
[17:02] <bazhang> sriramoman: depends on the link; jpgs will open with gwenview, etc
[17:02] <HymnToLife> Rods_Tiger: hardinfo is the closest match
[17:02] <errpast> ttyl errpast
[17:02] <sriramoman> i mean url
[17:02] <Rods_Tiger> aha - thanks
[17:03] <vicky123> join #RED hat
[17:03] <HymnToLife> but it won't give you nearly as much info as Sandra or Everest
[17:03] <sriramoman> how do i make it open with firefox instead of openoffice?
[17:03] <amenado> scotti1-> may as well, go ahead and paste it
[17:03] <HymnToLife> sriramoman: using Gnome or KDE?
[17:03] <sriramoman> Gnome
[17:04] <HymnToLife> hmm, maybe you can still manage that hrough kcontrol, try to run it in a terminal
[17:04] <sriramoman> ok
[17:04] <amenado> scotti1-> you also seemed to be missing  "search  adomain.name.net"  on your resolv.conf   it can be a dummy domain. but thats how i have mine
[17:05] <deserteagle> ok, i installed mono
[17:05] <deserteagle> now how do i get a windows app that needs .net to run in wine?
[17:06] <mattywarr> hi there - my appearance preferences screen has frozen - i'm attempting to be a windows convert and wonderd if there is any taskmanager equivilent, or a way close the window
[17:06] <torkel_> Is the package ubuntu-xen-server working on an amd64 installation?
[17:06] <sriramoman> why does wine(from synaptic) cause the system to hang when opened?
[17:07] <sriramoman> me on x86_64 gutsy.
[17:08] <tiocsti> maybe this is offtopic, but does anyone know if there are any linux drivers anywhere for hspda cards?
[17:08] <david567> hello
[17:08] <Jadewolf> Hi I was wondering if ubuntu is better then mandriva for running games or are the basically the same just different 'flavours'?
[17:08] <david567> can anyone tell me of a program that i can use to create a video dvd with menu, background and ecc?
[17:08] <Lempface> what would be a oneline command to run a program in /usr/jedit/jeditver/, it runs from java -jar jedit.jar
[17:09] <tiocsti> jade: the underlying game support is bound to be similar (basically wine)
[17:09] <Lempface> so i can add it to the gnome menu
[17:10] <bazhang> david567: devede may be worth a look
[17:10] <Jadewolf> darn, seems like all the docs I read people have no problem with World of Warcraft on ubuntu or if they do the 'fix' out here seem to fix it
[17:10] <amenado> Lemp-> jars are run off of java, soyou cant get away from having java as the command line
[17:10] <david567> devede, i will see what i can find
[17:10] <scotti1> amenado: when I typed dig yahoo.com, it just there a second and then says whatever is in this Pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63843/
[17:10] <scotti1> amenado: it *sat* there a second
[17:10] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[17:11] <ezquerro> i have modified the keybindings in ubuntu, and now i don't know how to set them up to defaults
[17:11] <scotti1> amenado: you said I need to add a domain to search in Resolv.conf? which url should I put?
[17:11] <amenado> scotti1-> that tells me the name server you are using is not resolving for you..
[17:11] <ezquerro> if i open gnome-keybinding
[17:11] <bullgard4> Was für Dateien sind im Verzeichnis /etc/fonts/conf.d/ gespeichert: Von welchen Programmen werden sie ausgewertet?
[17:11] <ezquerro> in the play/pause field it appears XF86Play instead of 0xa2
[17:12] <ezquerro> how can i set them to the default values?
[17:12] <amenado> scotti1-> try  search  myhome.sweethome.net    just a dummy domain or your real domain if you got one
[17:12] <bazhang> Jadewolf: mandrive may have more drivers out of the box (non free) but it depends on rpm and ubuntu uses apt which is better with dependencies--game playing will largely be the same most likely
[17:12] <scotti1> amenado: no I don't have my own website domain if that's what you mean. I will try the one you just gave. 1 sec
[17:13] <crunchybumble> where does thunderbird store email?
[17:13] <crunchybumble> and is there a way to merge two of those files?
[17:13] <amenado> scotti1-> still, your dns server at 192.168.2.1 is not resolving for you...check the dhcp configs of your dsl/router
[17:14] <ryanakca> How can I remove foo.* but not foo.tex?
[17:15] <tiocsti> ryan rm -f `echo *|grep -v '\.tex$'` or something (just off the top of my head)
[17:15] <tiocsti> err that echo * should be echo foo.*
[17:15] <crunchybumble> wow, yeah that'll work
[17:15] <ryanakca> tiocsti: thanks :D
[17:15] <crunchybumble> if its a small number of files you could just do rm -i
[17:15] <moskvat> alguem ai pode me ajudar
[17:15] <crunchybumble> and hit no on the one you want to save
[17:16] <sharperguy> anyone know where the nautulus logo is stored?
[17:16] <LogicalDash> sharperguy: probably /usr/share/pixmaps
[17:16] <moskvat> join #ubuntu-br
[17:17] <sharperguy> LogicalDash, didnt see it in there
[17:17] <steven> I have an external NTFS formated USB-hard drive that I want to format to ext3, how can I do this?
[17:17] <ryanakca> crunchybumble: well, I want to stick it in my make clean... wouldn't bee too fun.
[17:18] <Alives> i have a directory that is mounted with smbmount.  It shows up in df.  When I unmount it, it doesnt show up in df, but I can still get a file listing from it and access the files... what is going on?
[17:18] <scotti1> amenado: I entered the line "search myhome.sweethome.net" above the "nameserver 192.168.2.1" in Resolve.conf, then I did the networking restart, but it does the same thing. I think you are right about the DNS not resolving...i checked my Linksys router settings. I am using Tomato which is another firmware
[17:18] <LogicalDash> sharperguy: /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[17:19] <LogicalDash> sharperguy: I turned that up using the 'locate' command line utility
[17:19] <sharperguy> Lo_Pan, ty
[17:19] <sharperguy> LogicalDash, ty
[17:19] <ikon_> i can't login
[17:20] <scotti1> amenado: it uses Static DHCP which means any new computer will be assigned any number thru DHCP, unless you go into the firmware and specify a specific number for that MAC address. so in other words, my ubuntu desktop was already assigned a random IP, since I was able to Ping that google IP....what do I need to do>
[17:22] <sharperguy> LogicalDash, hmm. there a few files called nautilus, but the just show a weird snail thing
[17:23] <gaspipe1> hey people
[17:24] <ng0n> where are the aplications stored in Ubuntu
[17:24] <LogicalDash> ngon, mostly in /usr/bin
[17:24] <ng0n> ok.
[17:25] <JarG0n> what command do I use to format a volume/device to ext3 ?
[17:25] <nsandiman> how do I connect my nokia bluetooth headset to my laptop running ubuntu
[17:25] <JarG0n> This book is useless!
[17:25] <erUSUL> JarG0n: mkfs.ext3
[17:25] <amenado> scotti1-> make sure your router is getting a good dns feed.. from your ISP.. if you can hard code your ISP dns server into your resolv.conf, it would be okay too, just have to keep checking
[17:25] <erUSUL> JarG0n: or use gparted
[17:26] <JarG0n> cool, thx :)
[17:26] <mattywarr> hi there - my appearance preferences screen has frozen - i'm attempting to be a windows convert and wonderd if there is any taskmanager equivilent, or a way close the window
[17:26] <Starnestommy> mattywarr: System > Administration > System Monitor?
[17:27] <scotti1> amenado: I mean I never have trouble getting online with all my other computers(which use XP)...do you want me to use the DNS IP addresses that my Cable modem is using?
[17:27] <ng0n> ok.  user/bin correct. now, how do i save 'favorites' in XMMS ?
[17:28] <scotti1> so would I go to Resolv.conf and say "search 24.25.5.148" instead of myhome.sweethome.net?
[17:28] <mattywarr> perfect thanks :)
[17:28] <ng0n> doesn't appear they have that utility.  pity.
[17:29] <nsandiman> hi, I have a gprs modem and I would appreciate if anyone can put me through how to set it up
[17:29] <murlidhar> nsandiman, go on
[17:29] <amenado> scotti1-> no, instead of nameserver 192.168.2.1  use nameserver  24.25.5.148
[17:29] <sparr_> netselect-apt in ubuntu downloads debian package lists...  this should probably be mentioned during the install, or even the description?
[17:29] <LogicalDash> nsandiman, details of the particular modem and what you've done so far would probably help
[17:30] <scotti1> amenado: OHH....i sound like a newb. lol
[17:30] <nsandiman> ok, it is a MobiData gprs
[17:30] <mattywarr> how do you alter screen resolution? Can't find it in appearance preferences?
[17:30] <murlidhar> nsandiman, did u use wvdial ?
[17:30] <Jadewolf> If I install ubuntu today will I be able to upgrade without much to the new one coming out in a few days?
[17:30] <amenado> scotti1-> am stepping out for now..good luck
[17:30] <scotti1> amenado: thanks a lot, I'll keep trying
[17:31] <LogicalDash> Jadewolf, you'll be able to upgrade, but there'll still be a really long download
[17:31] <bazhang> Jadewolf: sure
[17:31] <Jadewolf> I don't mind a long download I just want something that works with wine well
[17:31] <SeaPhor> Can someone please look at this and see if they know whats wrong with wireless? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63845/
[17:31] <sparr_> where can i find a list of ubuntu repository mirrors?
[17:32] <LordInfamous> hello
[17:32] <JarG0n> .
[17:32] <nsandiman> I want to connect it to ubuntu
[17:32] <nsandiman> am new to ubuntu
[17:32] <nsandiman> how do I achieve that murlidhar?
[17:32] <zwalt> anyone familar with mono/nodeview here that likes to help me out with a really simple problem?
[17:32] <nsandiman> besides, it is a usb gprs device
[17:32] <franco> ciao a tutti
[17:32] <FloodBot1> nsandiman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <errpast> anyone use a microsoft ergo 4000 keyboard with Ubuntu?
[17:32] <murlidhar> nsandiman, ok sudo wvdial
[17:32] <bazhang> !it | franco
[17:32] <ubotu> franco: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:32] <murlidhar> nsandiman, in the terminal of course
[17:32] <franco> come faccio a trovare il download di mirc???
[17:32] <tomaz> Can I install ubuntu on my sistem from a pendrive?
[17:32] <Chudilo> I am using the MS keyboard 4000
[17:33] <chazco> Hi... i can save files to my USB memory card (SDHC in an adapter)... it used to work. No errors, they copy, unmount, then back in and they're not there. The card is FAT.
[17:33] <chazco> \Any ideas?
[17:33] <Jadewolf> Is the default install of Ubuntu KDE or gnome?
[17:33] <Chudilo> volume and mute work
[17:33] <bazhang> franco: /j #ubuntu-it
[17:33] <bazhang> Jadewolf: gnome
[17:33] <tomaz> since I dont have a blanc CD, I wanna copy the iso (or similar) to a pendrive
[17:33] <Jadewolf> thank god, I been in kDE for 24 hours on mandriva and i'm about to cry
[17:33] <LordInfamous> hey, i have a harddrive that booting into windows and when i try and enter the recovery console it says it cant see the harddrive, are there any commands i can use in ubuntu terminal to fixboot or fixmbr?
[17:33] <tomaz> and install from there, it`s this possible?
[17:34] <bazhang> tomaz: sure its possible; what system you running now
[17:34] <Chudilo> tomaz only if your BIOS supports booting from a pen drive
[17:34] <tomaz> windows.
[17:34] <murlidhar> nsandiman, before u do that make sure u have connected ur phone to pc with a usb cord
[17:34] <LordInfamous> can anyone help me?
[17:35] <bazhang> tomaz: you might consider wubi (in four days time) or unetbootin
[17:35] <tiocsti> people seem excited about wubi
[17:35] <bazhang> its nice
[17:35] <tiocsti> guess it lets windows users try ubuntu with no risk
[17:35] <tomaz> I do have a linux partition installed
[17:35] <bassham> tomaz: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:35] <bazhang> tomaz: then unetbootin
[17:36] <tiocsti> next step up from a livecd
[17:36] <question> I'm having trouble installing ruby. When I try to 'sudo apt-get install ruby irb rdoc' I get 'Package ruby is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:36] <question> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or \ is only available from another source \ E: Package ruby has no installation candidate \'
[17:36] <tomaz> right
[17:36] <LordInfamous> does anyone know how i can fix the baster boot record in ubuntu?
[17:36] <LordInfamous> master*
[17:36] <bazhang> !grub | LordInfamous is this what you mean
[17:36] <ubotu> LordInfamous is this what you mean: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:37] <LordInfamous> No, my window boot is messed up and i cant get into recovery ocnsole
[17:37] <LordInfamous> becuase it wont see the hd
[17:37] <bazhang> windows question LordInfamous?
[17:37] <StooJ> Hi all
[17:37] <LordInfamous> im in ubuntu now, im wondering what i can do to fix my hd
[17:37] <StooJ> Quick question: I use ALT+F2 a lot to load up stuff, especially terminal. Can I make some kind of alias so that Terminal executes gnome-terminal, rather than having to type gnome-termi before it's autocompleted?
[17:38] <Eagle_Boy> Hello
[17:38] <bazhang> ubuntu works fine LordInfamous?
[17:38] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, if u have windows xp cd . it would be best to fix the mbr. however u have to reinstall thr grub in the mbr later
[17:38] <LordInfamous> yes, on live cd
[17:38] <_question_> anyone know how to help me install ruby?
[17:38] <franco> dove trovo mirc per ubuntu???thank
[17:38] <jrib> StooJ: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts will let you set a shortcut for the terminal
[17:38] <Exteris> _question_, sudo apt-get install ruby
[17:38] <bazhang> franco: /j #ubuntu-it thanks
[17:38] <LordInfamous> the thing is i cant fix mbr from xp cd becuase in repair it doesnt see my harddrive
[17:39] <Starnestommy> _question_: sudo apt-get install ruby
[17:39] <lucia_> How can I install my wireless card drivers??
[17:39] <StooJ> jrib: Yeah, I thought about that, but I'd like to make shortcuts for more than just terminal
[17:39] <Eagle_Boy> does anyone know why ubuntu will not load gnome on my nvidia 9800 gx2?
[17:39] <lucia_> It says:  01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[17:39] <franco> thank you
[17:39] <_question_> Starnestommy: "Package ruby is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:39] <_question_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:39] <_question_> is only available from another source
[17:39] <_question_> E: Package ruby has no installation candidate
[17:39] <_question_> "
[17:39] <FloodBot1> _question_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, one sec let me see
[17:39] <jrib> StooJ: what window manager are you using?  metacity or compiz-fusion?
[17:39] <davidw> hi - anyone else have really slow spamassassin times?
[17:39] <StooJ> I guess I like typing the programme name in to launch it, but would like some way to shorten it to what I think of in my head
[17:39] <LordInfamous> thankyou murlidhar
[17:39] <Makuseru> What are some programs that will play DVDs? I tried Kaffeine, but it said it needed codecs, asked me if i watned to install them, i clicked yes, but nothing happened. Are there any others?
[17:39] <Eagle_Boy> I even tried safe graphics mode and it crashes x server
[17:40] <Starnestommy> _question_: which version of ubuntu are you using and do you have the universe repository enabled?
[17:40] <nsandiman> Thanks murlidhar; also can you kindly suggest any serial port terminal to test my modem?
[17:40] <StooJ> jrib: compiz
[17:40] <jrib> StooJ: you can set shortcuts in ccsm
[17:40] <_question_> Starnestommy: 7.10, and yes
[17:40] <StooJ> jrib: but metacity as well if I'm running a game
[17:40] <erUSUL> !dvd | Makuseru
[17:40] <ubotu> Makuseru: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:40] <Starnestommy> _question_: try sudo apt-get install ruby1.9
[17:40] <lucia_> Please :<
[17:40] <Eagle_Boy> I am using 7.10
[17:40] <murlidhar> nsandiman, follow the instructions that i give
[17:41] <bazhang> !wifi | lucia
[17:41] <ubotu> lucia: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:41] <_question_> Starnestommy: "E: Couldn't find package ruby1.9"
[17:41] <murlidhar> nsandiman, first sudo wvdialconfif
[17:41] <murlidhar> nsandiman, first sudo wvdialconfig
[17:41] <nsandiman> yes, i have already done that, murlidhar
[17:41] <lucia_> no but that specific card bazhang ?
[17:41] <Makuseru> erUSUL: thanks
[17:41] <bazhang> !broadcom | lucia_
[17:41] <ubotu> lucia_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[17:41] <Starnestommy> _question_: what's the output of "aptitude show ruby" ?
[17:41] <murlidhar> nsandiman, then are u able to connect to the internet?
[17:42] <lucia_> bazhang,  let me read thanks
[17:42] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=3340
[17:42] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, u can follow that
[17:42] <bazhang> lucia_: please check the first link I gave you first
[17:42] <LordInfamous> thanks, ill check it out
[17:42] <jrib> StooJ: for metacity, poke around /app/metacity in gconf-editor.  They share settings (in hardy, not sure about gutsy) so it doesn't matter where you define the shortcuts, both will use the same settings
[17:42] <_question_> Starnestommy: "No current candidate version found for ruby / Package: ruby / State: not a real package"
[17:43] <nsandiman> murlidhar, sudo wvdialconfig is recognized as a command
[17:43] <Starnestommy> _question_: do you have the main repository enabled, too?
[17:43] <murlidhar> nsandiman, so did u did the wvdial.conf file manually?
[17:43] <lucia_> bazhang,  I got the next error:
[17:43] <Jowi> amenado, hi. I'm the guy with the USB flash key booting from grub and because of your hints I actually managed. strangely, when listing available boot devices from within ubuntu, grub say that hd0 and hd1 are available. but when checking the same from grub before I boot it list fd0 and hd0. so, I selected fd0 instead of hd1 and it worked. very good since this intel mac mini does not support booting from usb
[17:43] <Jowi>  flash keys.
[17:43] <_question_> Starenstommy: in software sources? I have everything except 'Source Code' enabled
[17:43] <nsandiman> i ran sudo wvdialconfig
[17:44] <murlidhar> nsandiman, sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[17:44] <nsandiman> ok
[17:44] <Starnestommy> _question_: does anything show up in "apt-cache search ruby" ?
[17:44] <lucia_> In here:  1) Open System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager , says I don't have the package  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-68
[17:44] <murlidhar> nsandiman, does it open something ?
[17:44] <sparr_> where can i find a list of ubuntu repository mirrors?
[17:44] <bazhang> lucia_: you are using debian?
[17:44] <jewjew> Is there any way to make X open in a "screen"?
[17:45] <lucia_> bazhang,  ubuntu 7.10
[17:45] <nsandiman> it does, murlidhar, but the config file is empty
[17:45] <mrunagi> what time zone is considered for when hardy is released
[17:45] <StooJ> jrib: will have a play, thanks
[17:45] <_question_> Starenstommy: yeah, libgtksourceview-common and libgtksourceview2.0-common
[17:45] <bazhang> lucia_: that is the wrong kernel
[17:45] <lucia_> bazhang,  what do you mean?
[17:45] <Eagle_Boy> can I get some help with X crashing on me?
[17:45] <murlidhar> nsandiman, so probably ur phone has not been detected , can u pastebin the output when u sudo wvdialconfig
[17:46] <bazhang> lucia_: that is close to the hardy kernel please pastebin your sources.list
[17:46] <murlidhar> !pastebin | nsandiman
[17:46] <ubotu> nsandiman: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:46] <lucia_> bazhang,  ok
[17:46] <Messedrocker> Is there a way to enable Desktop Sharing through SSH?
[17:46] <lucia_> bazhang,  how can I open the sources.list in a external software to copy and paste? I forgot
[17:46] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: What is the problem you're having?
[17:46] <LordInfamous> murlidhar, when i try to install the ms-sys package i get an error that it couldnt be found
[17:47] <nsandiman> ok, i will do just that, murlidhar
[17:47] <seaq> messedrocker: not properly desktop sharing but remote desktop access via ssh.  try with NOMACHINE
[17:47] <Eagle_Boy> why I tried installing Ubuntu 7.10 64-bit and 32-bit it crashe.d
[17:47] <rvgate_> Is it possible to forward all emails within evolution, sending each forward individually ... (default action is to wrap it all up in 1 email and forward that)
[17:47] <Eagle_Boy> when it loaded X
[17:47] <Messedrocker> "NOMACHINE" eh?
[17:47] <bazhang> lucia_: install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[17:47] <Eagle_Boy> I tried using safe graphics mod but it still crashed
[17:48] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, hmm
[17:48] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Is this on a fresh install from a CD?
[17:48] <lucia_> bazhang,  no there is a easy way, something like gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , something like that
[17:48] <lucia_> that is it!
[17:48] <murlidhar> !ms-sys
[17:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms-sys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:48] <LordInfamous> im on 8.04, to enable univsersal repositories i click the universe checkbox in software sources, correct?
[17:48] <Eagle_Boy> yeah, I used the free CD I recieved in the mail. It tryies to load the Live CD Session
[17:49] <Jowi> Messedrocker, nomachine is the company producing "freenx" it is pretty solid and the only real option apart from VNC.
[17:49] <Eagle_Boy> when I used the 64-bit I just got a blank screen
[17:49] <murlidhar> correct but i thnk it is not there in repos
[17:49] <Jowi> !freenx
[17:49] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[17:49] <lucia_> bazhang, :  http://www.asdasdas.pastebin.com/m3baa8087  what do you think??
[17:49] <nsandiman> murlidhar, you can check the output @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63846/
[17:49] <murlidhar> can anybody confirm if ms-sys is in the repos please
[17:49] <Eagle_Boy> but with the 32-bit the computer starts beeping like crazy under normal mode
[17:49] <assargadon> Hi there.
[17:50] <SammIndustrie> can somebody help here, please? I'm runnign VIA, and there's no headphone support. the option isn't even there in alsamixer!
[17:50] <murlidhar> nsandiman, is ur phone connected to the laptop
[17:50] <Eagle_Boy> so when I use the safe graphics mode I get a "X server has crashed 6 times already will try again in 2 mins." error
[17:50] <_aeGIs> I've installed AbiWord and would like msword mime type ICONS associated with it but can't seem to figure out how.  I've done the actual mime type association, and it opens Abiword fine... However, it still uses the OpenOffice icon which I do not like... Any ideas?
[17:50] <nsandiman> yes
[17:50] <odinsbane> I have some processes that dont die with 'kill pid' but if I do a kill -s SIGKILL pid it dies.  Should I avoid that?
[17:50] <LordInfamous> murlidhar, i found it on sourceforge, http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/#Download
[17:50] <murlidhar> nsandiman, via usb?
[17:50] <nsandiman> yes
[17:51] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Did you try rebooting after is crashed and then going into safe graphics mode?
[17:51] <jewjew> *it
[17:51] <SammIndustrie> should i say i have a VIA sound card!
[17:51] <Eagle_Boy> yes
[17:51] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, yes but i would be difficult method to install from there . let me see if there is any other alternate way
[17:51] <Eagle_Boy> and that is when I got the "X server has crashed 6 times..."
[17:51] <LordInfamous> ok, thankyou
[17:51] <bazhang> lucia_: the kernel you are using is what again? please verify with uname -r
[17:51] <murlidhar> nsandiman, what is the make and model of ur phone ?
[17:51] <Eagle_Boy> but I only got that using the 32-bit version
[17:51] <Starnestommy> odinsbane: only use kill -SIGKILL if a regular kill fai;s
[17:52] <Starnestommy> *fails
[17:52] <lucia_> bazhang, : 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[17:52] <mrunagi> so is hardy going to be released 12am the 24th eastern  time or what
[17:52] <_question_> Starnestommy: Any ideas?
[17:52] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Do you have an OS installed with X curently on that PC?
[17:52] <bazhang> lucia_:  what is etchnhalf?
[17:52] <lucia_> bazhang,  how can I know :<
[17:52] <nsandiman> actually, it is a MobiData GPRS modem
[17:52] <lucia_> bazhang,  I installed the ubuntu cd I got some day ago
[17:52] <murlidhar> nsandiman, i think i found the error . do    sudo wvdialconfig      u did sudo wvdial
[17:52] <assargadon> I have a package, which depends on "python" package version. It needs <2.5 version, and my 7.04 has 2.5.1. How can I install this package?
[17:52] <odinsbane> thank you
[17:53] <Starnestommy> _question_: it sounds like a problem with your repositories
[17:53] <odinsbane> assargadon you can install python 2.4 with synaptic
[17:53] <Starnestommy> assargadon: try installing python2.4
[17:53] <_question_> Starnestommy: Where can I find information as to how to fix this?
[17:53] <assargadon> I installed "python2.4", but as far as dependencie linked to "python" version, not to "python2.4" package, it doesn't helps
[17:53] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Do you have an OS installed with X curently on that PC?
[17:54] <nsandiman> I did sudo wvdialconfig and I got command not found
[17:54] <odinsbane> assargadon what are you trying to install that has this dependancy conflict?
[17:54] <bazhang> lucia_: that is a debian and not an ubuntu kernel what have you done
[17:54] <lucia_> bazhang,  any idea?
[17:54] <lucia_> bazhang,  how is that possible?!?!
[17:54] <erUSUL> nsandiman: pppconfig ??
[17:54] <assargadon> odinsbane, emc2
[17:55] <murlidhar> nsandiman, u did sudo wvdial only see the pastebin that u gave me
[17:55] <Starnestommy> _question_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list.  There might be something wrong in that
[17:55] <bazhang> lucia_: no idea; please go to www.ubuntu.com/download and get the real deal
[17:55] <murlidhar> erUSUL, he wants to connect gprs to his laptop
[17:55] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I am dual booting (or at least trying)
[17:55] <ikonia> murlidhar: wvdial is an X11 app
[17:55] <n-iCe> bazhang,  man I ordered it, is original cd
[17:55] <nsandiman> i just did sudo pppconfig and am asked to provide some provider parameters
[17:55] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I was wondering if my new Nvidia card has something to do with it
[17:56] <erUSUL> murlidhar: i see... i thought it was a normal dial-up conection
[17:56] <odinsbane> assargadon do you have a debian package to install it, or are you compiling it from source?
[17:56] <odinsbane> Or are you using python setup.py install?
[17:56] <murlidhar> ikonia, does it mean it won't work?
[17:56] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_:It could
[17:56] <n-iCe> bazhang,  the thing is, how to activate my wifi
[17:56] <ikonia> murlidhar: sudo + X11 apps = no
[17:56] <_question_> Starnestommy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7602/
[17:56] <bazhang> n-iCe: then you did something to change kernels, to a debian one, and is not supported here
[17:56] <ikonia> murlidhar: gksu or gksudo
[17:56] <assargadon> odinsbane, I have a debian package
[17:56] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: What card is it?
[17:56] <Eagle_Boy_> since it's the new NVidia 9800 GX2
[17:56] <murlidhar> ikonia, i used wvdial and it worked
[17:56] <ikonia> murlidhar: that doesn't matter, it can cause issues later
[17:57] <ikonia> !worksforme | murlidhar
[17:57] <ubotu> murlidhar: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[17:57] <murlidhar> ikonia, wvdial on terminal works absolutely fine unless u close the terminal
[17:57] <murlidhar> ikonia, try it once
[17:57] <ikonia> murlidhar: if you are not using the X11 interface, it is fine, if you are trying to use the X11 interface - it is not
[17:58] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: oh wow
[17:58] <murlidhar> ikonia, i am not using x11 interface
[17:58] <ikonia> murlidhar: right, so when I said "it's an X11 interface" you should say "no" not "yes"
[17:58] <LordInfamous> how to i make terminal see a folder so i can install a file
[17:58] <ikonia> LordInfamous: cd into it
[17:58] <ikonia> LordInfamous: cd = change directory
[17:58] <LordInfamous> so cd /home ?
[17:58] <ikonia>  LordInfamous thats it
[17:59] <LordInfamous> thanks
[17:59] <Starnestommy> _question_: all sorts of lines were commented out there.  Replace /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu.com/7603/ then run sudo apt-get update
[17:59] <Clinteger> Hey, everyone! I set up Samba on my laptop running Ubuntu. I have this desktop running XP, and I can see my laptop's samba share from XP but I can't see any workgroups in Ubuntu, therefore I can't see any of the computers, either.
[17:59] <Clinteger> What do I need to do to fix this?
[17:59] <ikon_> i can't loggin
[17:59] <murlidhar> ikonia, could u help LordInfamous , he wants to fix his mbr . he is not able to do from his windows disk since his disk does not read the partition
[18:00] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: Have you tried any other live CDs?
[18:00] <_question_> Starenstommy: thank
[18:00] <bazhang> n-iCe: you are lucia_ correct? whatever you did to your install (changing to a debian kernel) is not supported here; good luck getting it to work
[18:00] <in4mer> hello
[18:00] <ikonia> murlidhar: you don't need to be able to see a partition to fix an mbr
[18:00] <murlidhar> ikonia, i gave him this link but ms-sys is not in the repos it seems so  http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=3340
[18:00] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I haven't
[18:01] <murlidhar> ikonia, not even from windows recovery console ?
[18:01] <ikon_> i can't loggin
[18:01] <nsandiman> murlidhar, after providing some configuration parameters for the pppconfig utility, am at the Authentication Method stage. The following are the options: PAP, Chat, CHAP
[18:01] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: I'd try a Hedgy DVD
[18:01] <nsandiman> which do I select?
[18:01] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I have used the Live CDs on my laptop and other box so I know the CDs work (at least the 32-bit version)
[18:01] <ikonia> murlidhar: no, the boot record is not on a patition
[18:01] <rvgate_> how can i select all emails and forward them using the option Quoted? it seems to attach the emails into one big message, but i want to forward all emails separately.. how can i do this other then selecting 1 and press forward... (it are 700 emails)
[18:01] <in4mer> out of interest
[18:01] <n-iCe> bazhang,  thanks
[18:01] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: that is still in beta right?
[18:01] <ikon_> i can't login
[18:01] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: It would be useful to know what errors you're getting when X crashes
[18:01] <VoidedCheck> hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go...
[18:02] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: It's a Release Client
[18:02] <murlidhar> ikonia, i know but the recovery console shows where the windows is installed , so that u could install the mbr on that hard disk
[18:02] <ace12345> Clinteger: have you setup sharing in XP ok? try manually trying the IP address of another LAN computer to connect to into firefox; sometimes it's a WINS problem or something of that ilk so you can't use the hostnames, so I understand
[18:02] <odinsbane> assargadon I'm stumped, I think dpkg has a way to look for different packages, you could always try getting the source and see how it works out.
[18:02] <LordInfamous> im trying to follow instructions to install this program, ms-sys. when i try to compile it it says theres no such file eventhough terminal is in /home
[18:02] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew:I wish I could see them, since it's a live boot I doubt any logs are created and saved
[18:02] <ikonia> murlidhar: is that not the boot disk ?
[18:02] <murlidhar> ikonia, it is not showing where the windows is installed according to LordInfamous
[18:02] <T1m0thy> jewjew: It's a Release Candidate.
[18:02] <ikonia> LordInfamous: what is the basic proble,m
[18:02] <Clinteger> ace12345 I've tried using the IP and the hostname, neither work :/
[18:02] <Eagle_Boy_> jejew: I pre-order a copy of the CD so hopefully I get them soon
[18:03] <assargadon> odinsbane, in any case, thanks for effort :)
[18:03] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_:  It might give error messages if you switch to another virtual terminal
[18:03] <dmsuperman> LordInfamous, are you doing ./COMMAND to run it?
[18:03] <_question_> Starnestommy: everything works, thanks
[18:03] <ikonia> Eagle_Boy_: it's not released yet, why would it get there soon ?
[18:03] <LordInfamous> i am trying to install ms-sys because for some reason it is not in repositories
[18:03] <murlidhar> nsandiman, it is better if u use wvdial rather than pppconfig
[18:03] <ikonia> LordInfamous: why ? what does ms-sys do ?
[18:03] <Eagle_Boy_> I guess I could try to install it via text mode
[18:03] <ikonia> LordInfamous: what is your end goal
[18:04] <LordInfamous> it will help me fix my master boot record for windows
[18:04] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: But I don't feel like waiting 6hrs to DL the image :p
[18:04] <dmsuperman> LordInfamous, Just use the ubuntu LiveCD or windows recovery CD
[18:04] <ikonia> LordInfamous: what is wrong with the mbr on your windows disk ?
[18:04] <LordInfamous> i cant boot into windows and when i use windows cd it cant see the hd
[18:04] <LordInfamous> when i use windows cd to enter repair commands
[18:04] <ace12345> Clinteger: have you set the hostname of your Ubuntu computer? Although I haven't and it's working OK here... not sure, good luck though
[18:04] <LordInfamous> i am on livecd now
[18:04] <arvind_khadri> LordInfamous, for fixing the master boot record login from the windows cd and say fixmbr
[18:04] <ikonia> LordInfamous: ok, can you see the windows disk from your ubuntu install ?
[18:04] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, just ask ikonia that u want to fix mbr since none of ur operating system is booting
[18:05] <LordInfamous> i am not in ubuntu install, im just on livecd
[18:05] <Clinteger> ace12345, yes, I see the "ubuntu" computer in my workgroup from XP, and I can access its shares. However, I can't access XP's shares from ubuntu.
[18:05] <dmsuperman> LordInfamous, anyway, use ./COMMAND from the home directory to run the command from the current directoroy, not just COMMAND
[18:05] <murlidhar> ikonia, yeah he is in livecd
[18:05] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: Try switching terminals when X crashes or while it's loading
[18:05] <ikonia> murlidhar: but can that see the windows disk ?
[18:05] <bXi> can i somehow give my virtual desktops a different wallpaper?
[18:05] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: how?
[18:05] <mnemo> i just found out about the media player "exaile" ... it absolutely rocks!! :-)
[18:06] <murlidhar> nsandiman, did u sudo wvdialconfig ???
[18:06] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: it only lets me do the normal or safe mode
[18:06] <Kaja> amaroks more
[18:06] <nsandiman> yes but it is not a command
[18:06] <dmsuperman> mnemo, agreed. Have you checked ou the "dynamic" checkbox? it finds similar music to that currently playing and automatically adds it to your playlist
[18:06] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i guess the super grub should do the magic
[18:06] <murlidhar> bXi, unfortunate it is not impliment yet afaik
[18:06] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: why ?
[18:06] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: CTRL + ALT + F(#)
[18:06] <ace12345> Clinteger: when you try to access it via the IP if FF or something, you are prefixing it with smb://, e.g. smb://192.168.0.3, right?
[18:06] <mnemo> dmsuperman: for real? sounds like magic
[18:07] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: his disk cant' bee seen, he wants a windows mbr - why would "super grub" cd be of any use ?
[18:07] <bXi> murlidhar: you've got to be kidding O_o
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, as he can fix the mbr if he doesnt have his windows cd
[18:07] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, i am with you , SGD can do the magic
[18:07] <Clinteger> ace12345, yes, I've tried it, and no folders show up, but when I do smb://192.168.1.64/sharedfolder it doesn't work, either
[18:07] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: he does have a windows CD - but it can't see the partition
[18:07] <dmsuperman> mnemo, its quite amazing, i use it while i'm doing work and such, just throw up a song of the musci type i want to listen to and check dynamic and hit play
[18:07] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I guess I could create a new session while it continues to attempt to load X under the main session
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, thats what is weird ....so why not super grub
[18:07] <murlidhar> bXi, i said afaik  (AsFarAsIKnow)
[18:07] <mnemo> dmsuperman: sweet
[18:08] <linas> I've got so many Hardy problems, I don't know where to even start ...
[18:08] <dmsuperman> Clinteger, can you access that same share from a windows pc?
[18:08] <linas> When will firefox start working on Hardy?
[18:08] <Clinteger> dmsuperman, yes, I can access ubuntu's shares from my windows pc, but it doesn't work the other way around.
[18:08] <Eagle_Boy_> jewjew: I will try that out right now if it don't work you will see me back in here in a few
[18:08] <Stepa1> What program can I use to extract the tracks from .cue and .ape files?
[18:08] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy_: Well X loads from another terminal session
[18:08] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: because if his partition can't be seen and we have not yet esblished if his ubuntu disk can see the parititon, what is the point of a.) using a boot cd that won't be able to see his disk b.) putting a boot loader on (grub) that won't allow him to boot a partition that can't be seen
[18:08] <jewjew> alright
[18:08] <dmsuperman> no no, can you access your windows shares from another windows machine
[18:08] <nsandiman> murlidhar, I tried sudo wvdialconf and it works
[18:09] <TheOriginalRippe> on hardy rc1 is it possble to remove firefox 3 beta 5 and install 2.0.0.14?
[18:09] <murlidhar> nsandiman, good so does it recognise ur phone ?
[18:09] <dmsuperman> Clinteger, to see if perhaps windows isn't allowing it to go outbound. Try to dualboot a windows install, or get one of those cds that you can use as a windows live cd, and try it out
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, he doesnt have ubuntu installed does he
[18:09] <LordInfamous> ubuntu partiton manager can see the partition, but it can only see that there is a problem with it adn when i try to repair it thorugh that it gets an error
[18:09] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: he's on the livecd
[18:09] <Clinteger> dmsuperman, the same laptop is dual booted. I can see the shares from the laptop when its in windows.
[18:09] <Clinteger> and i can access the shares from the other windows pcs in the house as well
[18:09] <dmsuperman> bXi, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/93/
[18:09] <linas> when will gnome panel stop crashing on Hardy?
[18:09] <n-iCe> How can I update my kernel?
[18:09] <Clinteger> ubuntu just seems to only work one way.
[18:10] <linas> When will gnome terminal start working on hardy?
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | linas
[18:10] <ubotu> linas: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:10] <gaspipe1> anyone have any links cool ways to "tweak" ubuntu (basicly eye candy and apps you should have and use?)
[18:10] <murlidhar> nsandiman, i am sorry that i gave u sudo wvdialconfig instead of sudo wvdialconf .  it's been a long time since i used it . sorry
[18:10] <linas> ok thanks
[18:10] <Swish> I'm trying to boot dapper 6.06.2LTS in vmware workstation, but it's locking up at the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." line
[18:10] <Stepa1> How Can I Extract The Tracks from .cue and .ape files?
[18:10] <Swish> CPU goes to 100% and nothing happens for 20+ min
[18:11] <Swish> I've tried adding kernel lines.. apm=off, or acpi=off... even debug, but no effect
[18:11] <nsandiman> murlidhar, kindly check the output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63847/
[18:11] <Swish> any ideas? :)
[18:11] <murlidhar> nsandiman, but before using it u should edit  the .conf file in order to use internet on gprs
[18:11] <SammIndustrie> in make, what's 'error 2'?
[18:11] <SammIndustrie> what does it mean?
[18:12] <murlidhar> nsandiman, great now sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[18:12] <Stepa1> exit
[18:12] <murlidhar> nsandiman, it has recognized ur phone
[18:12] <arvind_k> ok so the freenode one is a copy of this one aa
[18:13] <unop> SammIndustrie, 'error 2' on it's own would be meaningless - anything else you get in the error message?
[18:13] <murlidhar> LordInfamous, did ur problem get solved ?
[18:13] <arvind_k> murlidhar, do we have #ubuntu-in??
[18:13] <LordInfamous> the error i receive when trying to repair through partition manager is "ntfsresize -P -i -f -v /dev/sda1
[18:13] <rne1223> How do I install ColdFusion 8 with Synaptic?
[18:13] <murlidhar> arvind_k, yes ofcourse we do
[18:13] <LordInfamous> no, not yte
[18:13] <SammIndustrie> i/firefox/alsa-driver-1.0.16/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_via.c:926: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘}’ token
[18:13] <arvind_k> murlidhar, cool i want to be there...is it in freenode??
[18:14] <erUSUL> rne1223: i doubt that coldfusion is in any repositorie (does it even exist for linux)
[18:14] <murlidhar> yes  #ubuntu-in
[18:14] <rne1223> erUSUL: I don't know
[18:14] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, join #ubuntu-in
[18:14] <rne1223> that is why I came here...lol
[18:14] <unop> SammIndustrie, use the !pastebin (do not paste in here) and show us all that you have there
[18:14] <rne1223> erUSUL: Thanks
[18:15] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, any idea where the release party is??
[18:15] <nsandiman> murlidhar, am trying to change the configuration, but I can't find any APN
[18:15] <SammIndustrie> i've done it wrong, anyway, sorry unop
[18:15] <SammIndustrie> unop: i'm trying to make my headphones work with my sound card
[18:15] <Xengu> Can anyone remember the name of the app that installs your Geforce drivers for you automatically?
[18:16] <ace12345> Clinteger: sorry for the delay, got distracted, if you haven't already tried, you could try setting another shared folder on your XP box, and try to access it again. sometimes it helps.
[18:16] <erUSUL> !envy | Xengu
[18:16] <ubotu> Xengu: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:16] <murlidhar> nsandiman, u should know it   , find out from ur providers . ask them for http setting . usually they give wap setting .
[18:16] <jbroome> topic
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, any idea where the release party is??
[18:16] <Xengu> erUSUL, that's the bunny! Thanks.
[18:16] <jbroome> arvind_khadri: in my pants
[18:16] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, sorry i was busy in reporting others . i am not sure where they are probably ikonia knows it
[18:16] <bazhang> !coc > jbroome
[18:17] <nsandiman> I know it murlidhar, but all am saying is that I did not see any section/line in the configuration file where I can provide the APN
[18:17] <Xengu> Spank my monkey and call my Jim. Night everybody!
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, for india
[18:17] <nsandiman> should I create a new line APN=myapn?
[18:17] <unop> SammIndustrie, what kind of headphones and sound card? does the sound card work without headphones?
[18:17] <murlidhar> nsandiman, no need
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, any idea where the release party is to be held in india ??
[18:17] <Clinteger> ace12345, what do you mean?
[18:17] <murlidhar> nsandiman, wait a second
[18:17] <nsandiman> ok
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hi ;)
[18:18] <phantom__> hello
[18:18] <bazhang> hi arvind_khadri!
[18:18] <ace12345> try enabling sharing on another folder on your XP install. I've heard tales of some random Windows folders giving problems
[18:18] <SammIndustrie> unop: the sound card works ok for the speakers, but there's no option in alsamixer for headphones
[18:18] <SammIndustrie> internal speakers of course
[18:18] <Xengu> !mp3
[18:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:18] <SammIndustrie> the sound card is VIA 82xx
[18:18] <Xengu> !mp3 | erUSUL
[18:18] <ubotu> erUSUL: please see above
[18:19] <murlidhar> nsandiman, ok , now u have just put the dialing number
[18:19] <ace12345> Clinteger: oh, and I believe you should have set up accounts with the same username on both XP and Ubuntu
[18:19] <murlidhar> nsandiman, like *99#
[18:19] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, any idea where the release party is to be held in india ??
[18:20] <Clinteger> ace12345, yup, done that.
[18:20] <SammIndustrie> actually, i#m not so sure now unop: lspci -v pulls out http://pastebin.com/m4b8d98e
[18:20] <Clinteger> ace12345, it still doesn't explain why it only works one way :;/
[18:20] <aerlinn> hi everybody
[18:20] <nsandiman> ok, but I use it on vista without a dialing number, murlidah
[18:20] <ace12345> nope, it doesn't... i really hate these samba issues
[18:20] <ng0n> uggg. when i click down aps - the dissappear ?  what's up with that ?
[18:21] <SammIndustrie> http://pastebin.com/d7b0f3494 - full version, ubotu
[18:21] <ng0n> they are not on the panel !??!
[18:21] <murlidhar> nsandiman, look in the .conf file where u have to enter the dialing number . it is *99# or pastebin the conf file i will edit it and give u back
[18:21] <nsandiman> ok
[18:21] <Owner_> happy 420
[18:22] <Pabo_> Horray!
[18:22] <Pabo_> also, only 4 days till 8.04!!
[18:22] <aerlinn> omg SuSE channel is fool of "masters"
[18:22] <nsandiman> murlidhar, this is it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63848/
[18:23] <mnemo> where can I find the source code of the program "sudo" ?
[18:23] <basso> how can i adjust the volume in KDE4?.. the volume seems to be abit low and i cant find the volume controls.. :/
[18:23] <Dante123> hi all,  my dad has had a couple of brain surgeries...and to make a long story short.....short term mem is affected.  However, he likes to tinker on the computer etc.  I have him running Ubuntu but would like to be able to do remote desktop (VNC) through the internet to his computer (not on a daily basis but when he needs my help).  We had it working locally when he was here on LAN, but I can't seem to get it to work via internet.  I
[18:24] <murlidhar> nsandiman, so this was set by u ?   Phone = *99#
[18:24] <phate> modding
[18:24] <nsandiman> yes
[18:24] <ace12345> mnemo: should be able to do sudo apt-get source sudo, and it'll dump it to your PWD
[18:24] <rangef1nder> how do you set up a playlsit for mplayer?
[18:24] <dmsuperman> Dante123, , foward the port
[18:24] <dmsuperman> !portforwarding
[18:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portforwarding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:24] <Dante123> Any advice you can give is appreciated.  I figured what I needed to do was enter vncviewer name-laptop: IP address here
[18:24] <phate> modding
[18:25] <dmsuperman> Dante123, http://portforward.com/
[18:25] <dmsuperman> Use that as a guide, and forward the port for VNC. I believe VNC uses 5900, but double check
[18:25] <mnemo> ace12345: awesome, that worked... thanks a ton!
[18:25] <murlidhar> nsandiman, great there u are , now just type sudo wvdial . u should get the dns server address in the terminal . once u get it , it means that u are connected ::)))
[18:25] <Dante123> dmsuperman is this something I can tell him to type into a terminal and it will work (it has to be simple instructions for him)
[18:25] <aerlinn> Why Ubuntu is better than other distros?
[18:25] <ace12345> mnemo: no problem
[18:26] <dmsuperman> Dante123, even easier, it's as simple as going to the router configuration page :D
[18:26] <murlidhar> nsandiman, to disconnect just close the terminal
[18:26] <dmsuperman> Dante123, That website will literally hold your hand and walk you through it
[18:26] <Dante123> but he has dsm model not a router
[18:26] <Dante123> dsl modem I mean dmsuperman
[18:26] <nsandiman> i just did that and am sending you the output
[18:26] <unop> SammIndustrie, not sure if you have seen this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147  also, there might be some specific option that needs to be passed on to the snd module to enable headphone support like here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147
[18:27] <dmsuperman> Dante123, hrm, there's no router that he's behind anywhere? and did you enable a firewall on his computer?
[18:27] <murlidhar> nsandiman, so ar e u able to connect to the internet
[18:27] <dmsuperman> Dante123, if not then I'd say the ISP is blocking the port, since there's no reason you shouldn't be able to
[18:27] <dmsuperman> Dante123, Personally, I would rather just enable SSH on his PC so I can SSH in and help him when needed
[18:27] <nsandiman> murlidhar, kindly check the following link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63849/
[18:28] <Dante123> dmsuperman is there a way to issue a command that would check to see if the port is open or being listened to?
[18:28] <Auctionedllama> How do I fix the black screen on boot up? I installed the fglrx driver and I got the blackscreen on boot up
[18:28] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: How'd it go?
[18:28] <unop> aerlinn, better is a relative term, it really depends on the individual person's needs and preferences - but ubuntu is ideal if you are setting out with linux, it has a good support network, great availability of packages, supports more hardware, etc
[18:28] <dmsuperman> Dante123, you could use a portscanner, but I don't know the names of any particular ones
[18:29] <Auctionedllama> Anyone know mates?
[18:29] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: It didn't work
[18:29] <dmsuperman> Dante123, just port scan and only use his IP and port
[18:29] <murlidhar> nsandiman, now sudo wvdialconf again and see if it reconizes the phone
[18:29] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: it loads just the kernel and the only directory visible is the Desktop folder
[18:29] <mrunagi> what time is hardy going to be released on the 24th
[18:29] <aerlinn> unop: OpenSusE users said to me that ubuntu sux
[18:29] <Dante123> dmsuperman, I have just done a standard install of ubuntu and have not setup a firewall.  I would only do the vnc thing when I had him on the phone and he enabled it from system-->remote desktop...otherwise the rest of the time it will be off
[18:29] <dmsuperman> aerlinn, they lie
[18:29] <bazhang> aerlinn: please take this elsewhere thanks
[18:29] <Starnestommy> !ot | aerlinn
[18:29] <ubotu> aerlinn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:29] <arvind_khadri> mrunagi, 10 am or so i guess
[18:30] <murlidhar> nsandiman, if it does tell me it is at /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1
[18:30] <mrunagi> 10 am where
[18:30] <dmsuperman> Dante123, Why can't you just use SSH and telnet?
[18:30] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Are you sure?  How did you figure that out?
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> mrunagi, where do you belong to
[18:30] <meoblast001> hello, im using ubuntu on my ps3. It can detect my bluetooth adapter but i dont know how to connect to bluetooth devices. Can someone help me?
[18:30] <Auctionedllama> hello anyone?
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> aerlinn, tell them ubuntu sux but less than Suse
[18:30]  * GPT says 'hello' to Auctionedllama
[18:30] <Dante123> I probably can, but I'm not so sure how to set that up with him over the phone.  is there a step by step guide that would be easy
[18:31] <Auctionedllama> lol hi
[18:31] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: Because when it started to flicker between loading and crashing (on the 64-bit under safe graphics mode) I pressed the Alt+F# key and it load the prompt
[18:31] <mrunagi> arvind_khadri: im in eastern
[18:31] <Dante123> What I liked about vnc was that is basically gives me his computer with gui and I see what he sees etc.
[18:31] <unop> aerlinn, i would take that statement with a pinch of salt - the person/people who told you that probably have some other motive - but the advice to you is that you try ubuntu out to see if it works for you or not, again, there is no good, better or best, ubuntu is just another distro with specific goals and objectives
[18:31] <Auctionedllama> I got the black bootup screen.. how do I fix this?
[18:31] <dmsuperman> Dante123, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_install_SSH_Server_for_remote_administration_service
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | mrunagi
[18:31] <ubotu> mrunagi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:31] <nsandiman> it is at /dev/ttyUSB0
[18:31] <bent_> Auctionedllama: What graphics card do you have?
[18:31] <fadey> Hi. I've upgraded to hardy RC. On booting I get :ALERT! /dev/sda2 doesn't exist. How do I combat that?
[18:31] <mrunagi> arvind_khadri: that doesnt answer my question
[18:31] <dmsuperman> Dante123, but my thinking for the VNC is that the port is being blocked
[18:31] <Auctionedllama> X1650 ati
[18:32] <bazhang> mrunagi: it is offtopic here
[18:32] <murlidhar> nsandiman, good now try again wvdial and see what happens
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> mrunagi, i think people there will know....
[18:32] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: and you did an ls, right?
[18:32] <ace12345> Does anybody know how to change the default window placement behaviour in Ubuntu from whatever you'd call it currently  to a "click to place a new window" method?
[18:32] <mrunagi> oooooh
[18:32] <mrunagi> right right
[18:32] <bent_> fadey: Do you know what your HD maps are? Those numbers go to partitions... maybe that got missed somehow. I don't know how to fix that though.
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | fadey
[18:32] <ubotu> fadey: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:32] <dmsuperman> Dante123, Try using port 80, or 8080, or 400, those seem to get good results. and you could always of course enable SSH as well as VNC. It's what I do, because sometimes yeah I want to VNC but usualyl SSH is just what I need ;)
[18:32] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: yup, all that came up was the "Desktop" folder
[18:32] <bent_> Auctionedllama: Hm. Have you tried booting in safe graphics mode?
[18:32] <scout> anyone good out creating routes? I have a dual WAN setup http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html like that link, but it doesn't appear to route traffic back on the interface it came from. Anyone available to help?
[18:32] <n-iCe> how can I install the bcm43xx module ??????????
[18:32] <Auctionedllama> no, how?
[18:32] <Eagle_Boy> and inside it was the gtk.Desktop.configure file
[18:33] <bent_> !broadcom | n-iCe
[18:33] <ubotu> n-iCe: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[18:33] <Dante123> n-iCe enable restricted drivers perhaps
[18:33] <n-iCe> Dante123,  how?
[18:33] <ricanelite> anyone know a site where I could get a howto instructions on how to install the 13 plugins for compiz-fusion there was one in ubuntu linux which I loved cause it was step by step but for some strange reason it says I dont have permission to view the thread
[18:33] <bent_> n-iCe: I have a similar one too, but, it didn't work for me.
[18:33] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: That's because it defaults to the users home directory
[18:33] <ricanelite> which I was viewing a couple of days ago
[18:33] <n-iCe> bent_,  look won't work for me either :<
[18:33] <dmsuperman> n-iCe, Please don't use that many question marks, it's obnoxious
[18:33] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: you have to CD to / to see everything
[18:33] <ricanelite> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659282
[18:34] <ricanelite> that was the link
[18:34] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: yes
[18:34] <Eagle_Boy> and it did nothing
[18:34] <Dante123>  n-iCe  system--->administrations--->restricted drivers
[18:34] <bent_> n-iCe: I just fought for probably greater than 12 hours to get my card to work, and it didn't. Broadcom isn't that good at linux.
[18:34] <nsandiman> i can see the local ip address, remote ip address, primary ip address , and secondary ip adress, murlidhar
[18:34] <bent_> Dante123: Restricted drivers hardly ever picks up the broadcom drivers, atleast, not for me.
[18:34] <murlidhar> nsandiman, now that means u r connected :)
[18:34] <Leonidas_> does anyone no how to get USB support in virtualbox?
[18:34] <Dante123> I just installed ubuntu on my dad's dell....and it worked fine.
[18:34] <dmsuperman> Does anybody know if ubuntu has a command to like port scan an ip with a specific port? Or how might I check that?
[18:34] <nsandiman> thanks, murlidhar. :D
[18:34] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: I even tried running other common programs but I got a "bash executable not found"
[18:35] <therocha> hi everybody :D
[18:35] <meoblast001> im using ubuntu on my ps3. It can detect my bluetooth adapter but i dont know how to connect to bluetooth devices. Can someone help me?
[18:35] <Starnestommy> dmsuperman: nmap -p portnumber hostname
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <n-iCe> Dante123,  says I need this package:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[18:35] <murlidhar> nsandiman, np just remember the steps that i have told u
[18:35] <dmsuperman> Dante123, try what Starnestommy just suggested :D
[18:35] <sparr_> where can i find a list of ubuntu repository mirrors?
[18:35] <ace12345> dmsuperman: probably through netcat
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <nsandiman> actually, I have been developing on windows since 2005, murlidhar
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <bazhang> Dante123: he is using a debian kernel
[18:35] <FloodBot1> phate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <phate> how can I to do to connect the cell bluethoth with pc??
[18:35] <FloodBot1> phate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <nsandiman> i want to start a whole new experience on linux, murlidhar
[18:36] <Leonidas_> anyone know how to get USB support in virtualbox?
[18:36] <nsandiman> and am finding it an exciting experience murlidhar
[18:36] <murlidhar> nsandiman, u might require them later. however if u again want to connect then just wvdial . if doesn't happen then let wvdialconf auto configure ur phone
[18:36] <murlidhar> nsandiman, great to hear that
[18:37] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: I'm going to do some testing
[18:37] <Dante123> Starnestommy dmsuperman was trying to help me and he says do what you just said...let me give you the particulars.  Says dads ip address is 199.199.199.199 and I want to use vncviewer to come into his computer.  I need port 5900 open.  What exactly does he type?
[18:37] <murlidhar> nsandiman, if u want to have an exciting experience then signup at ubuntuforums.org
[18:37] <dmsuperman> Dante123, oooooh. you're using his internal IP, you need his external
[18:37] <nsandiman> I have already done that murlidhar
[18:37] <ricanelite> can anyone direct me on howto install compiz-fusion plugins
[18:37] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: okay, I guess I could DL the Hardy while I sleep and try again tomorrow
[18:37] <nsandiman> i have an ubuntu account
[18:37] <cornbread> Hey guys, I've got glade3 but is there a libglade binding for python for glade3 in the gutsy repo?
[18:38] <dmsuperman> Dante123, or not, i can't remember if the 199 range is internal or not haha
[18:38] <murlidhar> nsandiman, nice to hear that
[18:38] <Dante123> no, I just made that up.  I get him to go to a site that says what his ip address is.....I've already got it working locally.  it is through the internet that it won't work
[18:38] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: maybe they have a generic driver for my new card
[18:38] <n-iCe> Dante123,  says I need this package:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
[18:38] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: I might be able to help you more if I figure out exactly how an Ubuntu live disc works.  I could help more if it was Gentoo ;)
[18:38] <nsandiman> another challenge you could gracefully apply your expertise to
[18:38] <dmsuperman> Dante123, oh haha
[18:38] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: maybe
[18:38] <nsandiman> i have a logitech quick call usb device, murlidhar
[18:38] <bent_> Ooh, kde4 is installing now! Yay.
[18:39] <dmsuperman> Dante123, Like I said, try a port scanner from your computer to see if the ISP is blocking it
[18:39] <Dante123> dmsuperman  forget the ip address I gave....just an example.  Say his IP address on the internet is 67.167.67.100
[18:39] <murlidhar> nsandiman, what is it ?
[18:39] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: side note, how do you get it to beep at me when you message me since I tried notice, msg, privatemsg and they all get blocked by the server
[18:39] <dmsuperman> Dante123, right, but his ISP could be blocking the port 5900
[18:39] <Dante123> nmap -p portnumber hostname  (how would I use this command)
[18:39] <Jowi> Dante123, in vncviewer or tsclient type: 199.199.199.199:5900
[18:40] <the_darkside_986> i can't get banshee's process to die. It is "uninterruptible" and not even sudo kill -9 will kill it. this looks worrisome and makes CLR look like a platform that takes away user's control over their system :(
[18:40] <dmsuperman> Dante123, so, port scan his computer from yours to see if it even responds
[18:40] <murlidhar> nsandiman, i don't what is quick call usb device
[18:40] <fxfitz> Do I need to set up Samba to share my Ubuntu printer with a Windows machine, or can cups do it? What would be easiest?
[18:40] <nsandiman> it is a logitech quick call usb voip desk phone
[18:40] <Dante123> It could be dmsuperman, you are right.  Jowi would the command be:  vncviewer 199.199.199.199:5900  ????
[18:40] <murlidhar> nsandiman, oh ok
[18:40] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: I'm not doing anything special; it's probably something your client does
[18:40] <nonewmsgs> the_darkside_986: a BANSHEE is an undead evil spirit
[18:41] <Eagle_Boy> probably
[18:41] <Dante123> dmsuperman, I will try the port scanner thing too in need be
[18:41] <murlidhar> nsandiman, did u plug it in ur laptop and saw if it works
[18:41] <dmsuperman> Dante123, are you on a linux box?
[18:41] <Dante123> yes, dmsuperman
[18:41] <ace12345> Dante123: to port scan for e.g. 65.5.5.5, try nc -z 65.5.5.5 5900 (this uses a neat command called netcat)
[18:41] <the_darkside_986> banshee has started to freeze during startup anyway. how do I erase every single configuration file of banshee in my home directory? i can't seem to find those hidden folders.
[18:41] <nsandiman> it didn't work
[18:41] <fxfitz> Do I need to set up Samba to share my Ubuntu printer with a Windows machine, or can cups do it? What would be easiest?
[18:41] <dmsuperman> Dante123, try what Starnestommy suggested, using the nmap command
[18:42] <nsandiman> my machine cannot detect it
[18:42] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: I'll be back in a few minutes
[18:42] <Eagle_Boy> okay
[18:42] <dmsuperman> Dante123, I had to install nmap
[18:42] <banditul> fxfitz, i succeded withouth samba
[18:42] <Dante123> okay, so how would that look on his end (assuming he has to type this in on his end)
[18:42] <murlidhar> nsandiman, i am not sure about . so i can't help u .
[18:42] <eTiger13> how can i search a diriectory for every file not named foo.bar?
[18:42] <dmsuperman> Dante123, no, you type it to check the connection to him
[18:43] <TeamColtra[NADC]> Whats the point of a apt upgrade? Like isn't it a pretty simple utillity?
[18:43] <nsandiman> ubuntu does not have the driver for it, murlidhar
[18:43] <dmsuperman> Dante123, just like he said, "nmap -p PORT IP
[18:43] <BlueG> I am looking for a simple cross-platform (linux, win32) p2p IM and file transfer client that just connects one ip to another, any suggestions?
[18:43] <Dante123> he's 70 and had two brain surgeries remember.  okay, now I get it dmsupermap
[18:43] <LetsGo67> Will Firefox 3 be included in Ubuntu stable despite being in Beta?
[18:43] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, as it stands on ubuntu.com, hardy comes with beta 4
[18:43] <murlidhar> nsandiman, actually a lot of developers aren't here in the channel because they are working hard on releasing the latest 8.04 on time
[18:43] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed some new games in Edubuntu. Although each one came with its own .desktop file but some games did not appear in the menu. What is the reason and any possible solution?
[18:44] <jackster> anyone got any idea why vmware fusion's vmware-tools no longer compiles modules in Ubuntu 8.04? It gives me an error saying I need gcc, binutils and the kernel source installed but I've got all those :-/
[18:44] <nsandiman> i have been looking at linux device drivers architecture and was hoping I could venture in designing mine
[18:44] <crazytalk> !nvidia
[18:44] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:44] <crazytalk> !red
[18:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about red - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:44] <crazytalk> !res
[18:44] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:44] <Dante123> okay dmsuperman, it would look like this:  nmap -p 5900 199.199.199.199 (assuming that is his external ip on the net)
[18:44] <dmsuperman> Dante123, yes
[18:44] <LetsGo67> dmsuperman: so you believe that Hardy stable will come with Beta 4?  I remember Gaim beta being in Ubuntu once...
[18:45] <meoblast001> how do you connect  bluetooth devices with ubuntu?
[18:45] <murlidhar> nsandiman, u are always welcome
[18:45] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, according to their website, that's what's happening. Unless 3 officially releases, I'd say that's what's happening
[18:45] <ace12345> TeamColtra[NADC]: upgrade is a pretty essential command, checking the versions of your currently installed packages against the newest list downloaded through apt update. It then tries to upgrade as many as possible without breaking dependencies...
[18:45] <fxfitz> banditul, Do they have to have the driver on the Windows machine?
[18:45] <Dante123> thanks dmsuperman.  I will try this later with him today
[18:46] <murlidhar> nsandiman, we need more developers working on linux to make linux into the mainstream OS market
[18:46] <dmsuperman> Dante123, if his computer is on you can just do it now, it should tell you if anything responds
[18:46] <eTiger13> how can i search a diriectory for every file not named foo.bar?
[18:46] <murlidhar> nsandiman, and i am sure it will.
[18:46] <banditul> fxfitz after u configure the printer on ubuntu and share it ...
[18:46] <dfd> hey can anyone tell me how to include a newer wlan driver in my live cd?
[18:46] <LetsGo67> dmsuperman: Firefox team must be working really hard on version 3!  It looks and sounds good so far (no memory leaks), the alpha crashed a lot, but betas should be more stable.
[18:46] <mwe> eTiger13, ls <directory> | grep -v foo.bar
[18:47] <TeamColtra[NADC]> ace12345, so its more of a speed upgrade?
[18:47] <the_darkside_986> I take it that it is not possible to kill an uninterruptible process in Ubuntu? this dang process is stuck in "DN" state and I can't figure out how to change its state manually and kill it somehow. is rebooting the only way?
[18:47] <stardust_> salut!
[18:47] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, yeah, it's gonna be great. I just want to wait until it's released so my extensions all still work ;)
[18:47] <LetsGo67> dmsuperman: what extensions do you use?
[18:47] <LordInfamous> can someone tell me how to install this from command line? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/testdisk
[18:47] <fxfitz> banditul, Well, I have it set up so it shares on my Ubuntu machine (and I can see/print to the printer from another Ubuntu machine), and I"m trying to get it to print from a Windows amchine, but the WIndows machine is asking for a driver
[18:47] <kringel> the_darkside_986: try killall -9 processname
[18:47] <stardust_> quelqun pourai m'aider a me loger au tchat voila par hazard?
[18:48] <bazhang> !fr | stardust_
[18:48] <ubotu> stardust_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:48] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, quite a few, I use some to make browsing quicker, and some to customize firefox, and many for web development
[18:48] <banditul> fxfitz, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268245
[18:48] <the_darkside_986> killall worked thanks.
[18:48] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, firebug, web developer, colorzilla, the ruler one, fireftp to name a few
[18:48] <ace12345> TeamColtra[NADC]: oh, I see what you mean, the recent apt version release... well, it is a pretty powerful little tool, but I think the update was just a couple of minor changes, if I recall...
[18:48] <the_darkside_986> er maybe it didn't. i'm having trouble reading this output
[18:48] <LetsGo67> dmsuperman: I only have ubufox :)
[18:48] <Signil> hi .. my acer orbicam isn't detected! pls help I dl the gspca drivers..
[18:48] <eTiger13> mwe that seems to only match directories
[18:49] <murlidhar> nsandiman, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/devices.php
[18:49] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, haha, i'd go insane. at the very least i need super drag and go and foxmarks and mouse gestures
[18:49] <mwe> eTiger13, ?
[18:49] <mwe> eTiger13, please elaborate
[18:49] <LetsGo67> lol dmsuperman I'm sure they work great I just haven't tried them yet and now with this detox week coming I might have to wait a while before trying any of 'em.  :)
[18:50] <Syntux> Hi, How can I list all installed packages from the official Ubuntu repositories NOT any other packages from other repos ?
[18:50] <LetsGo67> So Thursday, Hardy is released?
[18:50] <Swish> isn't the ubuntu server boot cd supposed to load up networking?
[18:50]  * Swish is using it inside a VM and.. nothing
[18:50] <ricanelite> can someone please explain to me why I can't enter this thread in the ubuntuforums when i was there two days ago http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659282
[18:50] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, I just installed windows dual boot for games, and the first thing i got was firefox
[18:51] <ricanelite> I'm trying to install the 13 Compiz-Fusion Plugins
[18:51] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, before I even browsed anything i installed those extensions
[18:51] <ricanelite> like 3D windows, and screensavers
[18:51] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, or I would have went nuts haha
[18:51] <dfd> how do i add a driver to a live cd?
[18:51] <zero__> is there a distro of ubuntu that comes STOCK with IceWM?
[18:51] <ricanelite> anyone could please help me
[18:51] <tab-complete> ricanelite, I'm guessing you have to be logged in to view it.
[18:51] <eTiger13> mwe nevermind, i just needed to add -R to the ls to search within files
[18:51] <murlidhar> ricanelite, neither can i
[18:51] <ricanelite> I am login in
[18:51] <ricanelite> what the heck happen
[18:51] <LetsGo67> Well, dmsuperman, I gotta fly.  Enjoy the chatroom, and have a good day.
[18:51] <murlidhar> ricanelite, see the second option
[18:51] <ricanelite> is there a way I could see this fourm like a RSS?
[18:51] <dmsuperman> LetsGo67, see ya
[18:52] <LetsGo67> Ditto.  :)
[18:52] <ricanelite> cause those instructions were awesome
[18:52] <bent_> !cube | ricanelite
[18:52] <ubotu> ricanelite: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[18:52] <bent_> ricanelite: 8.04 comes with all of them, though. Atleast, it did for me.
[18:52] <mwe> eTiger13 I see
[18:53] <eTiger13> mwe how do i delete the files i matched?
[18:55] <SnakeArt> Hi, everybody.
[18:55] <bent_> Hi, SnakeArt.
[18:55] <SnakeArt> bent_:)
[18:55] <mwe> eTiger13 well I think rm $(<your search query>) would do it
[18:55] <mwe> eTiger13, or rm -f if you don't want to confirm the files
[18:56] <SnakeArt> Is there someone with working Bamboo tablet, and who has wacom file in /dev/input/ ?
[18:56] <bent_> SnakeArt: I have a graphire4 that I got once to work under ubuntu, but that was a while ago.
[18:57] <SnakeArt> bent_: Allelujah! For the first time I meet here someone with tablet. :)
[18:57] <ricanelite> this is crazy
[18:57] <mwe> eTiger13, rm $(find | grep -v foo\.bar)
[18:58] <bent_> SnakeArt: Actually, I have two... but that's more confusing. Anyhow, the wiki entry for Wacom points to the need to compile some stuff... did you do that?
[18:58] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: When X starts on the live cd you should be able to see where it fails on ttyt1 by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 while X is loading
[18:58] <SnakeArt> bent_: I have new wacom Bamboo One and I'm using Gutsy Gibbon. I can't pass the problem of missing file in /dev/input/.
[18:58] <scott__> hi dose anyone know how toget dvd & cd rom to mount they did yesterday but today they will not .werw dd i go in system to turn them on .
[18:58] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew:I guess I will try it again
[18:58] <mwe> eTiger13, confirm find | grep -v foo\.bar does what you want first, though
[18:58] <Eagle_Boy> jewjew: let me tryit again see it it shows me
[18:59] <jewjew> Eagle_Boy: Alright
[18:59] <Eagle_Boy> jewejw:be back in a few
[18:59] <LogicalDash> Is there any way to make it so that, when I drag an image from Firefox to a Pidgin conversation window, it puts the image itself into the editing box, rather than a link to the image?
[18:59] <bent_> SnakeArt: Aha! See, the bamboo isn't yet fully supported in the drivers supplied with ubuntu. You will need to follow the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4253232&postcount=133
[18:59] <poseidon> I am dualbooting openSuse and wiindows xp, how would I go about installing ubuntu over openSuse?
[18:59] <bent_> LogicalDash: Does it matter if you drag it to the desktop first?
[18:59] <SnakeArt> bent_:  I've did everything needed, according to posts on ubuntuforums.org.
[19:00] <LogicalDash> bent_, if I do that it'll drop the image in like I want, but I don't want to have to do that
[19:00] <bent_> poseidon: Do you care about the files in the openSuse part?
[19:00] <poseidon> bent_, no
[19:00] <bent_> LogicalDash: Hm, dunno.
[19:00] <bent_> poseidon: Well, boot into the liveCD, but before you click install, run gparted.
[19:00] <bent_> poseidon: Then, delete the opensuse partition, and leave the free space, then run the installer.
[19:01] <poseidon> bent_, gparted is on the livecd right
[19:01] <bent_> poseidon: When you want to install, use the "largest ... free space"
[19:01] <n-iCe> !broadcom
[19:01] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:01] <eTiger13> mwe: apparently rm can only remove so many files at a time because it tells me the argument list is too long
[19:01] <bent_> poseidon: As of 8.04, haven't checked out older stuff.
[19:01] <SnakeArt> bent_: but I don't understand the fact, that some people has this thing working and some others don't. The same release, the same kernel the same procedures and nothing seems to work in one case, in other works great.
[19:01] <donkeyofdarkness> hai
[19:01] <donkeyofdarkness> bai
[19:02] <nonewmsgs> how can you just do a grub install where it autodetects OSes?
[19:02] <bent_> SnakeArt: "some things work" is common for me, with a non-functioning wireless card. You might be compiling with the wrong kernal... maybe. I dunno.
[19:02] <steven> i added something to my fstab and it f'ed up my box, cannot boot... how can I remove the entry?
[19:02] <mwe> eTiger13, oh
[19:02] <bent_> nonewmsgs: Use the super GRUB disc, with a link I dunno.
[19:02] <nonewmsgs> supergrub disk allows me to boot anthing
[19:02] <nonewmsgs> but it says it's already installed
[19:03] <SnakeArt> bent_: here's a link to my post on ubuntuforums.org, maybe this could help you a little: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4753321#post4753321
[19:04] <scott__> see ya later
[19:04] <bent_> SnakeArt: Well, you posted 49 min ago... I'd wait. Now, I completely forgot how to use my graphire 4 in linux... 'cuz I'm not a design person.
[19:04] <mutable> Hi. How can I list packages which was installed by myself please (not packages which are installed as dependency)? It's similar to world file in Gentoo.
[19:04] <zero88> mutable by yourseld as in without apt-get?
[19:05] <zero88> yourself*
[19:05] <mwe> eTiger13, you could look into mmv or try somthing like for i in $(find | grep -v foo\.bar); do rm $i; done
[19:05] <mutable> zero88: no installed by myself with apt-get.
[19:05]  * nonewmsgs tries a reinstall of grub with that selection in synaptic
[19:05] <mwe> eTiger13, it's getting ugly though
[19:05] <KOJV> Hi! What's the grub command to add a boot sector to /dev/sdb1 ??
[19:05] <KOJV> Thanks!
[19:05] <arvind_khadri> mutable, apt-cache policy <package name>
[19:05] <bent_> mutable: I've never thought to do that. Maybe... hm. dunno.
[19:06] <wenek18> hi all any server expert ?
[19:06] <bent_> KOJV: http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_toc.html
[19:06] <bent_> KOJV: Sorry, too lazy to look through it. :/
[19:06] <eTiger13> wenek18, dont ask to ask, just ask
[19:06] <zero88> avrind_khadri that listing a specific package. I think he wants to do a "ls" of some kind and list all the packages he has installed.
[19:06] <KOJV> Okay but thanks bent, I'll check that out.
[19:07] <eTiger13> mwe thanks for your help. ill just go through the sub folders one by one
[19:07] <mwe> eTiger13, for i in $(find | grep -v foo\.bar); do rm $i; done should work
[19:07] <mwe> eTiger13, ok
[19:07] <wenek18> i need help with bind
[19:07] <mutable> arvind_khadri: I mean I want to list all packages that I installed, not their dependencies.
[19:07] <arvind_khadri> zero88, for that some redirection has to be done
[19:07] <KOJV> How to add highlighting in Pidgin?
[19:08] <bent_> KOJV: Highlighting to... what about it?
[19:08] <crazytalk> when i launch xorg to auto detect video hardware the guide tells me i should be able to just hit enter a few times but instead i start getting asked about other hardware types and enter does nothing
[19:08] <zero88_> arvind_khadri, would you happen to know how to?
[19:08] <bent_> crazytalk: What graphics card/what guide?
[19:08] <KOJV> bent, I wanna make Pidgin markup any messages with my name in them.
[19:09] <arvind_khadri> zero88, yeah but need to test it on my comp,just give me some time will hit back :)
[19:09] <bent_> KOJV: Oh, 'cuz you're using it for IRC. It's probably some plugin.
[19:09] <eTiger13> wenek18, again, you need to be asking something here
[19:09] <KOJV> Like, in mIRC, I've setup so that messages with "KOJV" or "boobs" or "porn" or "nude" or whatever, flashes in red...
[19:09] <latitu> how to start firestarter auto on system start?
[19:09] <wenek18> i need external url to pint to my home server
[19:09] <eTiger13> mwe that seems to be working. wow. i didnt know you could do logic on command line
[19:09] <redwhitewaldo> i don't have firefox running, but when i try to start it up, window pops up saying "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."
[19:09] <latitu> how to start firestarter auto on system start? or how to run it as system servcie?
[19:09] <redwhitewaldo> what should i do?
[19:09] <KOJV> You think I can run mIRC in like, Wine or something?
[19:09] <zero88> arvind_khadri, kk
[19:09] <eTiger13> wenek18, thats something you do with DNS
[19:09] <wenek18> i am using mirc in wine
[19:10] <ribak> how to do?
[19:10] <Pici> latitu: Firestarter is just a gui for iptables, iptables is always running.
[19:10] <wenek18> yes is it possibele to configure bind to fdo it ?
[19:10] <BSG75> redwhitewaldo: look in your process manager .. firefox is probably still running
[19:10] <mwe> eTiger13, it's handled like a shell script even if you type it on the cli
[19:10] <SnakeArt> bent_: Thanx a lot. I will keep on trying with that issue. Is that true that there will be a full support for these new tablets in Hardy? How long do I need to wait for this new full release?
[19:10] <crazytalk> bent_: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1) | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:10] <latitu> Pici i want to run fs too
[19:11] <Pici> !startup | latitu
[19:11] <ubotu> latitu: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[19:11] <nsandiman> hi, murlidhar, any help in writing my own driver for this logitech quick call usb voip desk phone
[19:11] <BSG75> anyone know of a good dvd authoring app for 8.04?
[19:11] <nsandiman> i want to write my own driver
[19:11] <murlidhar> nsandiman, i am sorry i am still a noobie
[19:11] <wenek18> anyone has a good guide how to configure bind9?
[19:11] <KOJV> Cool wenek18, thanks!
[19:11] <arvind_khadri> zero88, ok jus do ls /var/cache/apt/archive/
[19:12] <wenek18> np mate
[19:12] <NateF> Idleone, i have the alternative cd burnt, how should i install it now, in text install?
[19:12] <murlidhar> nsandiman, u might find help in #ubuntu-motu
[19:12] <bent_> Whoops, crashed.
[19:12] <murlidhar> nsandiman, though i am not sure
[19:12] <nsandiman> ok, murlidhar, can you suggest any material for a qucik start
[19:12] <arvind_khadri> NateF, need to reboot into the cd
[19:12] <NateF> ya i did
[19:12] <latitu> Pici how to avoide giving password?
[19:12] <NateF> wait, what you mean reboot
[19:12] <eTiger13> wenek18, i think you need to look into dns for what you want
[19:12] <zero88> arvind_khadri, haha thanks
[19:13] <NateF> u mean restrt system eith disk in?
[19:13] <KOJV> So, how does GRUB work anyway? I've tried using the root command according to the installation manual in all kinds of ways... root sdb1, root sdb, root sdb,1, root /dev/sdb1 etc... it just won't do anything, it says Error 11: Unrecognized device string
[19:13] <Pici> latitu: I can't think of a way to do that.
[19:13] <BSG75> nateF: just follow the onscreen direction
[19:13] <NateF> ummm, yes
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> NateF, yeah
[19:13] <mwe> nsandiman, writing drivers is a really complicated task, but I guess you know that already
[19:13] <zero88> arvind_khadri, might want to tell Mutable too ;)
[19:13] <NateF> it has he "text install" do i do that?
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> zero88, :)
[19:13] <KOJV> Nobody fluent with GRUB installations?
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> NateF, yeah
[19:13] <NateF> o, ok
[19:13] <BSG75> nateF: yeah
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, yeah
[19:13] <NateF> hold on leme do that
[19:13] <latitu> Pici ok. how to run an app as system service?
[19:13] <steven> When I boot my Ubuntu Gutsy server, a few error/warning message scroll on by.....  where would those be logged?
[19:14] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: okay how to use the root command? I've tried all kinds of strings, it just says Error 11: Unrecognized device string
[19:14] <crazytalk> bent_: wb
[19:14] <zero88> arvind_khadri, hmm. Doesnt seem to work.
[19:14] <BSG75> steven: cat /var/log/messages
[19:14] <stder1> steven: try /var/log/messages
[19:14] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, you need to first do sudo grub
[19:14] <KOJV> Ahh... thanks arvind_khadri!
[19:15] <unop> KOJV, it's usually of the form.   root (hd0,0)  - first disk, first partition
[19:15] <Pici> latitu: I can't think of a good way of doing that for a GUI program.
[19:15] <arvind_khadri> zero88, you might have missed something
[19:15] <in4mer> Hi
[19:15] <arvind_khadri> zero88, ls /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:15] <bent_> Hi in4mer.
[19:15] <crazytalk> bent_: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1) | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:15] <sharperguy> anyone know a good, simple podcast aggrigator?
[19:16] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, after sudo grub its find /boot/grub/stage1
[19:16] <bent_> sharperguy: Rythembox does a good job.
[19:16] <steven> BSG75, the message i am looking for is not in this file... it had to do with mounting some file system and was complaining about the uuid
[19:16] <crazytalk> sharperguy: rythembox music player
[19:16] <zero88> arvind_khadri, There ya go. I misspelled a work ^^
[19:16] <steven> stder1, the message i am looking for is not in this file... it had to do with mounting some file system and was complaining about the uuid
[19:16] <wenek18> i need help to instal a nameserver
[19:16] <NateF> ok, i get a mount CD-ROM error
[19:16] <crazytalk> *rhythm
[19:16] <CyberCod> if X dies while you are composing an email in web-based email (Yahoo Mail) is there any sort of cache file that may have your unsaved work?
[19:16] <arvind_khadri> zero88, :)
[19:16] <bent_> crazytalk: Thanks, and, if you boot into the recovery console, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .
[19:16] <NateF> ok, now i have a blue screen
[19:16] <sharperguy> bent_, crazytalk, I was looking for a standalone one mainly
[19:17] <arvind_khadri> CyberCod, nope i guess
[19:17] <CyberCod> hell
[19:17] <BSG75> steven: oh .. it's probably from your fstab .. unless it's right at the beginning or boot
[19:17] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: still says Error 11. unop, I tried root (sdb1,0) then I get Error 23: Error while parsing number
[19:17] <arvind_khadri> NateF, ok follow the instructions there
[19:17] <NateF> i did
[19:17] <bent_> crazytalk: Try VESA as a driver first.
[19:17] <NateF> its just a blank blue screen
[19:17] <Flare183> !language | CyberCod
[19:17] <wenek18> any guides on bind9 ?????
[19:17] <crazytalk> bent_: i have my nvidia restricted driver already running
[19:17] <nsandiman> ok, that is fair enough
[19:17] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, ok i have a diff method
[19:18] <crazytalk> bent_: xorg hasn't detected my monitor yet
[19:18] <Drew_l> Hi, I'm edditing usplash.conf, but I'm not sure how to save changes.  How do you save?
[19:18] <kklimonda> zajebiste
[19:18] <BSG75> steven: try .. cat /var/log/messages |grep error
[19:18] <ubotu> CyberCod: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:18] <kklimonda> oh, sorry..
[19:18] <NateF> umm, so do i just let the blue screen do nothing?
[19:18] <bent_> crazytalk: Hm. I'm of no major help then, I usually end up doing that when things go wrong.
[19:18] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, mount the ubuntu partition and chroot into it then do sudo grub-install
[19:18] <nsandiman> can you also assist me with connecting my nokia bluetooth headset to my ubuntu?
[19:18] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: find /boot/grub/stage1 gives me Error 15: File not found
[19:18] <Flare183> !bluetooth | nsandiman
[19:18] <ubotu> nsandiman: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[19:18] <crazytalk> bent_: nps nps ty
[19:18] <stder1> steven: you could also try /var/log/kernel, normally most things are in messages though
[19:19] <crazytalk> when i launch xorg to auto detect video hardware the guide tells me i should be able to just hit enter a few times but instead i start getting asked about other hardware types and enter does nothing. what should i do?
[19:19] <bent_> Drew_l: Have you run your text editor as root?
[19:19] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, remove the / from /boot and try
[19:19] <NateF> can anyone help?
[19:19] <Flare183> !anyone | NateF
[19:19] <ubotu> NateF: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:19] <arvind_khadri> NateF, what does the screen say
[19:19] <BSG75> nateF: what's your question?
[19:19] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: removing the first slash doesn't change the error. The Ubuntu partition is mounted, how do I  "chroot into it" ?
[19:19] <NateF> it just has a blank blue screen
[19:19] <adog> guys, i totally pooched my fstab file.. i tried mounting a drive improperly and now i can't bood into the gui and i've tried to edit it via command line but i can never save since it's a read onl file.
[19:20] <bent_> Ugh. I'm again switch clients.
[19:20] <adog> can someone please help?
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Flare183,  PLease dont abuse the bot...
[19:20] <adog> i spent sooo long trying to configure this machine and now im screwed.. heh
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> NateF, please describe the problem from the beginning..again
[19:20] <bent_> !fstab | adog
[19:20] <Drew_l> bent_: No, I don't think so.  I logged in using the GNOME interface as the admin user and then typed sudo nana /etc/usplash.conf to access it.  I don't think I've done anything with root.
[19:20] <BSG75> adog: can you get in using the recovery?
[19:20] <ubotu> adog: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[19:20] <NateF> ok, i go to
[19:20] <crazytalk> !xorg
[19:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:20] <KOJV> ubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ chroot /dev/sdb1
[19:20] <KOJV> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/sdb1: Not a directory
[19:20] <NateF> install from text
[19:20] <Flare183> Jack_Sparrow: ...I never do.. I use it correctly..
[19:20] <murlidhar> what does cvs stand for ?
[19:20] <NateF> everyhitng loads
[19:20] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, hey first tell are you using the live cd
[19:20] <crazytalk> ubotu: that guide is wrong!
[19:20] <NateF> then, ill pick the keyboard layout
[19:20] <NateF> i do that
[19:20] <LogicalDash> murlidhar, Consistent Versioning System if I recall
[19:20] <NateF> works fine
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Flare183, correctly.. but perhaps a bit too often at times.. thanks
[19:21] <upsignal> hello. i dare you ubuntu experts to take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4753630#post4753630
[19:21] <Flare183> murlidhar: cvs is a type of versoin control
[19:21] <bent_> crazytalk: Really?
[19:21] <upsignal> no one can help me
[19:21] <upsignal> :(
[19:21] <Flare183> Jack_Sparrow: ok I understand
[19:21] <sobczyk> hi, I've heard that ubuntu 8.10 will come with pulseaudio by default yet my beta version does not have the package installed, s it a bug?
[19:21] <NateF> then i just get a blue screen with nothing saying nothing, no text on it at all
[19:21] <stdin> crazytalk: it's a wiki, fix it
[19:21] <arvind_khadri> !ask | upsignal
[19:21] <ubotu> upsignal: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> upsignal, please describe the problem and not just post a link to it
[19:21] <latitu> Pici how to avoide giving password?
[19:21] <murlidhar> Flare183, LogicalDash thanks
[19:21] <steven> BSG75, I found it.... "kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> = md0(9,0)...... try to resume.... no resume image, doing normal boot
[19:21] <Flare183> murlidhar: no problem
[19:21] <NateF> sorry
[19:21] <latitu> how to run an app as system service on boot?
[19:21] <adog> bent_: i now what fstab is. the problem is i messed up a line in it and need to edit and resave. only i cant due to permissions.
[19:21] <steven> BSG75, hmm i gotta research this... thanks
[19:22] <wubrgamer> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2007/10/squid-password-authentication-using-pam.html
[19:22] <upsignal> jack , i just installed hardy. and i can't get sound from more than 1 apllication at time
[19:22] <wubrgamer> i followed that
[19:22] <wubrgamer> it isn't working
[19:22] <BSG75> steven: it thinks you have a raid .. do you have a raid running?
[19:22] <crazytalk> bent_: yes read the part about what you should do when you open the xorg window
[19:22] <bent_> adog: Kay, well, you can boot into the recovery console, and that wou... or not. >.>
[19:22] <mwe> latitu, do you mean how to run a program at each boot?
[19:22] <kingv> hey guys! does anyone know if 804 will support dell wireless 1505??
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, gksudo gedit or sudo nano to edit it
[19:22] <poseidon> I have to install a driver to get my wireless adapter to work on ubuntu livecd.  If I install the driver, and have internet access, will I be able to connect to the internet throughout the install?
[19:22] <steven> BSG75, yes I setup Linux raid
[19:22] <crazytalk> stdin: i am noob. i don't know what i'm supposed to do instead which is why i'm here
[19:22] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | upsignal
[19:22] <ubotu> upsignal: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:22] <poseidon> Untill the livecd is out
[19:22] <WildChil17> hello there. I can only start x with, sudo startx
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> kingv, ask in ubuntu+1
[19:22] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: haha, okay... sorry. I'm booting the Live CD and installing Xubuntu onto an USB drive. But then it says GRUB cannot install onto it. So I need help with that.
[19:22] <adog> bent_: tried that and had the same problem.  mind you, im fairly(extrelkely) new t ubuntu.
[19:22] <kingv> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[19:22] <steven> BSG75, this is the first I am setting up RAID on linux.. it appears to be working = /  i dunno what this message means tho
[19:23] <latitu> mwe yes. and as system service
[19:23] <WildChil17> is there a way so I can run it without sudo? becouse if I run it as sudo startx my x is in root... I don't think this is safe..
[19:23] <adog> Jack_sparrow: i can edit the file. i just cannot save it.
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> kingv, the 1505 is a broadcom chipset right..
[19:23] <kingv> yup
[19:23] <bent_> kingv: Is that a broadcom? Check by typing lspci (or lsusb if it's a usb thing) into the terminal, and look for your card. It might be listed as a broadcom.
[19:23] <bent_> kingv: oh.
[19:23] <adog> how can i edit AND save fstab from commandline?
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, you need sudo or gksudo to have permissions to save the edit
[19:23] <wubrgamer> it's just open access
[19:23] <kingv> it's the one that comes with dell xps 1330
[19:23] <bent_> !broadcom | kingv
[19:23] <Drew_l> I am going to repeat my problem now.  I cannot save a document in nano.  I am trying to save usplash.conf but I do not know how one saves changes.  How is this done?
[19:23] <ubotu> kingv: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:23] <BSG75> steven: are you using mdadm??
[19:23] <Flare183> KOJV: You must put the "boot" syntax on the Gparted for it boot off of it
[19:23] <mwe> latitu, As a system service, what does that mean?
[19:23] <Flare183> Drew_l: try Control S
[19:23] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, i thought somethin else....well you need to make the usb as a secondary storage device then it'll work
[19:23] <adog> Jack_Sparrrow: sudo does not allow you to save an edit from fstab.
[19:23] <tgillespie_> Drew_l ctrl o with nano
[19:24] <bent_> Oh! Drew_l, I didn't realize the question. My fault.
[19:24] <WildChil17> !broadcom | WildChil17
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, yes it does
[19:24] <adog> Not from command line boot.
[19:24] <steven> BSG75, I don't kno what mdadm is... but I did setup three mdx partitions... md0, md1, md2
[19:24] <mwe> latitu, you can put the program name in /etc/rc.local before "exit 0" and it will run at each boot
[19:24] <latitu> !boot | mwe
[19:24] <ubotu> mwe: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[19:24] <KOJV> Flare, I cannot find a Boot label to put on it in GParted.
[19:24] <sFEARs> when i close my laptop lid my computer shuts off, how do I disable this? (i've already set power management to "do nothing")
[19:24] <Flare183> umm...
[19:24] <KOJV> arvind_khadri: how do I make the USB a secondary storage device? :S
[19:24] <osmosis> virt-manager just crashes if I try to connect to a remote machine and create a new guest. Any thoughts?
[19:24] <Flare183> !bcm > WildChil17 (here you go)
[19:24] <Drew_l> Flare183: "XOFF ignored, mumble mumble"; tgillespie: Thank you kindly; brent_: It's fine, I appreciate your effort.
[19:25] <BSG75> steven: can you post your error one more time?
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[19:25] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ here is an official howto
[19:25] <stder1> How do you change the default window placement behaviour to "click to place a new window" - I expected an option somewhere...
[19:25] <latitu> mwe what does /etc/init.d do?
[19:25] <KOJV> Flare183: thanks but I cannot find a "boot syntax" in GParted. Do you mean in the Terminal?
[19:25] <adog> Jack Sparrow: I repeat. it will not work from command line.
[19:25] <Flare183> KOJV: bring up gparted
[19:25] <rajiv_nair> After installing debian lenny also onto my pc my swap drive aint being used in kubuntu. But it works in debian. How do i fix this?
[19:25] <mwe> latitu, if you want it to show in the list of services you need to write a script in /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to make it run
[19:25] <adog> there is a permssions error, Jack Sparrow.
[19:25] <chimp> When sshed onto a computer, is there a way to send messages to anyone who is using that computer (while they are using the gui)
[19:25] <steven> BSG75, how can I paste you message without spaming this chat
[19:25] <NateF> ok, my loading is stuck on the install line text, blackbackground with text some text saying"ata 96 in"
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, if you run that and still have permissions errors something odd is up
[19:25] <BSG75> steven: post to bin
[19:25] <Flare183> KOJV: and select the Flash Drive you have installed xubuntu onto.
[19:25] <KOJV> Flare183: yes I have Gparted up.
[19:26] <mwe> latitu, /etc/init.d/ is the directory where "service" scripts are kept
[19:26] <BSG75> adog: are you booted into a ro fs?
[19:26] <steven> BSG75, I am sorry I never did that before.. where do I go?
[19:26] <adog> JAck_Sparrow,  yeah, they dont't want people editted fstab.
[19:26] <latitu> mwe so what is more powerful and unstopable. init.d or rc.local?
[19:26] <Flare183> KOJV: have you selected the usb flash drive?
[19:26] <KOJV> Ah, it's on Manage Flags... thanks Flare183!
[19:26] <crazytalk> when i launch xorg to auto detect video hardware the guide tells me i should be able to just hit enter a few times but instead i start getting asked about other hardware types and enter does nothing. what should i do?
[19:26] <mwe> latitu, links in /etc/rc?.d/ determine the startup/stop order
[19:26] <BSG75> steven: just pm me
[19:26] <Flare183> KOJV: yes exactly
[19:26] <adog> BSG75: can ypoiu repeat? im fairly new to ubuntu/linux.
[19:27] <Bubble_tea> Theres a error when i m runnning f spot
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, I just did it from a terminal/command line prompt
[19:27] <mwe> latitu, essentially both are starting a program that can be stopped
[19:27] <BSG75> adog: if you are booted into a readonly file system .. it will not let you change any file .. no matter what you try.. you need to remount your files system with read write
[19:27] <adog> Jack_sparrow: did you boot to command line or are you using a gui?
[19:27] <Bubble_tea> I try reinstall still doesn't fix the problem
[19:27] <engwar>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[19:27] <Flare183> Bubble_tea: then report a bug for it
[19:27] <arex> Hello.
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, from terminal.. command line only
[19:27] <mwe> latitu, please tell me what you want more presicely
[19:27] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, sorry couldnt help much :(
[19:28] <adog> BSG75: how would i know if i booted into a read only and how do i change the file system to read/write?
[19:28] <KOJV> Thank you very much for your help, arvind_khadri, but I don't fancy that long a tutorial with text line commands. The GParted way given by Flare183 was much easier. :)  Thanks anyhow for your time!
[19:28] <adog> Jack_sparrow: as i said above. boot into command line.. and it will NOT work. i promise.
[19:28] <NateF> can anyone help me with loading proablems with the Ubuntu Alternative CD installing from text
[19:28] <Flare183> KOJV: your welcome
[19:28] <BSG75> adog: cd /etc .. then touch me
[19:28] <KOJV> Yeah, thanks a lot Flare183!
[19:28] <BSG75> adog: easiest way
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, I have done it many times..dont know what to tell you
[19:29] <bent_> NateF: What's the problem?
[19:29] <NateF> ok
[19:29] <mwe> latitu, a program running with root privs is potentially very powerful by nature
[19:29] <arvind_khadri> adog, check fstab
[19:29] <adog> JAck_sparrow: you are incorrect.  goodle edit fstab and you will see what im talking about. it will work from a x windows..
[19:29] <KOJV> Thanks everybody for spending time helping in here, special thanks to arvind_khadri for taking a lot of time and special thanks to Flare183 for bringing the solution to my problem. I'll try and boot Xubuntu from my USB hard drive now... bye.
[19:29] <adog> BSG75 'then touch me'?
[19:29] <NateF> i install the alternative CD from text, its stuck with the loading text before you select your langue and keyboard layout
[19:29] <BSG75> adog: yeah .. just type .. touch me
[19:29] <BSG75> adog: does it give you an error?
[19:29]  * Flare183 smiles
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> KOJV, thanks you are welcome
[19:30] <poseidon> Will ubuntu auto configure grub?
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> am sad
[19:30] <bent_> NateF: How much RAM do you have? Equally, why don't you use the new "ubiquity only" boot option?
[19:30] <steven> BSG75, did you get my PM ?
[19:30] <BSG75> poseidon: usually yeah
[19:30] <adog> BSGBSG75: rebooted without cd.. lemme try.
[19:30] <NateF> 512
[19:30] <BSG75> steven: no sir
[19:30] <Clinteger> Hello, everyone! I'm using samba on my Ubuntu linux laptop, and the server portion seems to be working correctly. I have a desktop running Windows XP, and I can see the shares of my linux laptop. However, I can't see any shares from my laptop, so I can't access the windows shares. It's odd to me that it only works one way, because I can see the desktop's shares from the other Windows PCs.
[19:30] <oliver_> Hey, I have Ubuntu 6.02 and I am going to install Mac OS X. I want to install it so I no longer have Ubuntu, wil it work?
[19:30] <bent_> NateF: Just wondering. The Live CD would work fine...
[19:30] <NateF> i need to install the alternative CD
[19:30] <bent_> oliver_: Yup, just format over ubuntu in the OSX installer, taking up all space.
[19:31] <Flare183> Clinteger: try using the desktop's IP address.
[19:31] <arex> Running alsamixer gives me "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[19:31] <arex> Any ideas?
[19:31] <poseidon> BSG75, I'm dualbooting openSuse and xp.  I'm going to delete the openSuse partitions during the install.
[19:31] <oliver_> bent_: So it will work, without any bother?
[19:31] <bent_> NateF: Okay... but it dosen't always work that wekk.
[19:31] <bent_> Oliver...
[19:31] <Daniel1981> hello.. anyone have time to give me a hand here.. need help to install an konica minlota 2300w laser printer??
[19:31] <bent_> God, he's about to go format his drive away.
[19:31] <Clinteger> Flare183, no luck. I can see [and browse] ubuntu's shares, read and write, through the hostname, but *none* of the computers show up in Ubuntu... :/
[19:31] <Clinteger> its like the client part of samba doesnt work.
[19:31] <Flare183> ummm
[19:31] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, night
[19:32] <latitu> mwe just having info
[19:32] <Clinteger> it can see its *own* samba share by typing in smb://127.0.0.1 but even then its still not in the list
[19:32] <NateF> i need to install the alternative though
[19:32] <Daniel1981> just need a bump in the right direction:S
[19:32] <BSG75> poseidon: more than likely your mbr will be rewritten and grub will crash... so you will either lose access to the systems or you will lose access to your opensuse
[19:32] <adog> BSG75: yes, it says 'me' read-only file system.
[19:32] <bent_> !printing | Daniel1981
[19:32] <ubotu> Daniel1981: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:32] <BSG75> adog: bingo
[19:33] <adog> BSG75, please tell me you have the answer :)
[19:33] <BSG75> adog: now you need to mount your / file system as read write
[19:33] <bent_> Daniel1981: Your printer appears on a list as supported, but it dosen't have the same name. I don't know if that is correct.
[19:33] <steven> BSG75, kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/07769d1c-49b1-44f6-afcd-c0870b097114) = md0(9,0).....kinit: try to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/07769d1c-49b1-44f6-afcd-c0870b097114......kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot
[19:33] <BSG75> adog: lol it's not hard ..
[19:33] <Flare183> Clinteger: have you tried smbtree?
[19:33] <BSG75> adog: one sec .. let me just quickly look at steven's
[19:33] <adog> BSG75, finding the ansswer on google is hard..  how would i mount my file system?
[19:33] <kevin__> wenn it restarted messege came
[19:33] <ironfoot_495> Is there someone who could help me with getting screem to work on my Gutsy system. So I can go to the Browser and have the script to come up there?
[19:33] <Rods_Tiger> oliver_ are you reinstalling OS X from the installer, anew?
[19:33] <steven> BSG75, that 077 uuid is mapped to my swap partition   on /dev/md0
[19:33] <adog> BSG75, ok, i will wait .
[19:34] <Daniel1981> bent_:  thanks.. i will read a little and then return;)
[19:34] <BSG75> steven: it's trying to boot from your raid .. from what I can tell .. it doesn't find a img so moving on to boot from normal .. I wouldn't worry but get someone to look into it in details when they get a moment
[19:34] <Clinteger> Flare183, smbtree is what lmao
[19:34] <BSG75> steven: I would move my swap away from a raid .. it's really a waste of raid space
[19:34] <mwe> latitu, well having a program regisered as a service doesn't make it more powerful. the nature of the program itself determines how powerful it is.
[19:34] <Flare183> Clinteger: smbtree: text based smb network browser
[19:34] <indian_munnda> hi all! i am facing problem while installing ubuntu on intel duo core system, can anyone help me???
[19:34] <steven> BSG75, ok... i did think it was a big problem... the system works fine
[19:35] <sp3_> hello
[19:35] <Clinteger> Flare183, okay, hold on.
[19:35] <sp3_> anyone know about wubi?
[19:35] <bent_> indian_munnda: What kind of problem?
[19:35] <steven> BSG75, ok I didn't know if swap was meant to be on RAID or not
[19:35] <Flare183> sp3_: yes
[19:35] <Clinteger[1]> oh im on irc here, too. this will make it easier.
[19:35] <sp3_> flare: can u help me?
[19:35] <bent_> sp3_: It works kinda sorta, but don't over-exert it. :P
[19:35] <LogicalDash>  !wubi
[19:35] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[19:35] <indian_munnda> bent_: it says hardware not found.
[19:35] <mwe> latitu, and in linux the root user should be able to stop any process
[19:35] <Flare183> sp3_: I can try my best
[19:35] <BSG75> steven: it doesn't seem like it .. but you may want to look at it at some point
[19:35] <eu__> hi guys ....can some1 explain where is the italian channel?
[19:35] <Clinteger[1]> oh, Flare183 , that revealed a lot!
[19:35] <bent_> indian_munnda: When you boot?
[19:35] <steven> BSG75, thanks for the advice
[19:35] <erUSUL> !it | eu__
[19:35] <BSG75> adog: you ready?
[19:35] <ubotu> eu__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:35] <BSG75> steven: my pleasure
[19:35] <indian_munnda> after booting cd
[19:35] <superuser> sp3_: i recenrly got it to wok just fine in my laptop
[19:35]  * Flare183 smells sarcasm
[19:36] <adog> BSG75: ready and willing.
[19:36] <adog> .
[19:36] <BSG75> adog: try .. mount -o remount,rw /
[19:36] <mwe> latitu, in ubuntu that is when you use sudo
[19:36] <bent_> indian_munnda: Uh, does it say something else? Or is that it?
[19:36] <eu__> thanck you ...
[19:36] <BSG75> adog: then edit your fstab
[19:36] <superuser> !wubi
[19:36] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[19:36] <Clinteger[1]> lets see... cli_start_connection: failed to connect to 192.168.1.64<20> Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[19:36] <sp3_> flare: thanks..i instaled ubuntu on wubi..everything worked..but when i boot into wubi..the migration part doesn't let me click forward
[19:36] <indian_munnda> bent_: when it detects the hardware it says hardware not found
[19:36] <Flare183> sp3_: press alt+f
[19:36] <indian_munnda> bent_: and even on the red hat problm is same
[19:36] <sp3_> flare:what will that do?
[19:37] <bent_> indian_munnda: Erm, I've got no idea what problem you could be having, maybe someone else will.
[19:37] <Flare183> sp3_: click forward for you
[19:37] <sp3_> flare: u sure?
[19:37] <sp3_> just making sure
[19:37] <sp3_> im very cautious..
[19:37] <Flare183> sp3_: yeah
[19:37] <sp3_> k thanks
[19:37] <sp3_> flare: i'll try that
[19:37] <BSG75> adog: remember to be root before you edit or remount .. so sudo -s
[19:37] <Flare183> sp3_: ok
[19:37] <erUSUL> !enter | sp3_
[19:37] <ubotu> sp3_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:38] <sp3_> ubotu: sorry
[19:38] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[19:38] <adog> BSG75:  FSTAB saved ok, rebooting to see how it goes.
[19:38] <BSG75> adog: good luck :)
[19:38] <adog> my fingers are corssed.
[19:38] <mwe> latitu, so the linux kernel doesn't distinguish between processes started as a service and other processes
[19:38] <adog> BSG75: i went to sooo many sites looking for the answer to this and NONE of them were this simple.
[19:38] <sp3_> flare: i will try that out then..thanks
[19:39] <Flare183> sp3_: ok
[19:39] <BSG75> adog: LOL .. usually life's most simple problems have complicated answers :)
[19:39] <adog> BSG75: it worked.. man, thank you so much.
[19:39] <xander_> i need help setting up wireless drivers for realtek r8187
[19:39] <Vampired_> can somebody explain how to make a link to a .jar file which opens in java?
[19:39] <BSG75> adog: my pleasure. :)
[19:39] <adog> im about to install a SATA card in this system. so i might be back here soon, very soon :)
[19:39] <sp3_> flare: did that problem also happen to u?
[19:40] <BSG75> adog: LOL you are welcome back anytime .. a lot of smart ppl here
[19:40] <pau> hi i have some problem using gmail as a hard disk, someone have done it
[19:40] <pau> ??
[19:40] <Stepa1> How do I add the monkey plugin to K3B?
[19:40] <Flare183> sp3_: yeah at sometime it did, it was becuase I didn't have the correct resolution for my monitor so the install window didn't show up all the way
[19:40] <BSG75> pau: there is a guide to setting it up
[19:42] <pau> BSG75:i know, i follow it, and it works but I only can read gmail disk as a root
[19:42] <ut2004player> how far can you overclock stable e2160 on stock cooling?
[19:42] <ikonia> ut2004player: that is nothing to do with ubuntu support
[19:42] <[BT]JaC> hi, if something belongs to user 'root' how can i set it so it belongs to a different user
[19:42] <ikonia> ut2004player: please find a more appropriate channel for that disussion
[19:42] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: as the user "root" change its permissions in nautlius or "chown"
[19:43] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: use "sudo" to act as root
[19:43] <basso> How can i use my laptop with IR as a remote control for my tv?
[19:43] <ikonia> basso: check out lirc
[19:43] <[BT]JaC> ikonia yeah but i dunno what cmd to use or anything like that
[19:43] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: "chown"
[19:43] <BSG75> pau: I had that issue .. I am trying to remember how I fixed it
[19:43] <[BT]JaC> oh ok
[19:43] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: what file are you interested in
[19:43] <n-iCe> How can I see my kernel?
[19:43] <gedraff> Hi to All
[19:43] <ikonia> n-iCe: define "see my kernel"
[19:44] <[BT]JaC> well i moved a file into the 'username' dir but it still belongs to root
[19:44] <ikonia> n-iCe: uname -a will show the running version
[19:44] <[BT]JaC> thus username cannot modify it
[19:44] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: how did you create that file
[19:44] <[BT]JaC> mv
[19:44] <n-iCe> /whois
[19:44] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: no, that file must be created for you to use it
[19:44] <[BT]JaC> mv filename /dir/
[19:44] <Stepa1> Can anyone help me with K3b
[19:44] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:44] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: how did that file get created (the one you wanted to move)
[19:44] <BSG75> jac: chown -R <username>:users /<path to directory>
[19:45] <Daniel1982> bent_: It woooorks!! thank you big times!
[19:45] <pau> BSG75:thanks+
[19:45] <ikonia> [BT]JaC: how did that file get created (the one you wanted to move)
[19:46] <jjt009> is there any log of all received port requests on ubuntu?
[19:46] <ikonia> jjt009: you can set iptables up to log that
[19:46] <jjt009> i'm trying to see what port requests my computer received this weekend
[19:47] <jjt009> ikonia: i didn't do that
[19:47] <ikonia> jjt009: you cant do it retrospectivly
[19:47] <ikonia> jjt009: check your router?
[19:47] <jjt009> ikonia: ok thanks
[19:47] <jjt009> ikonia: would my router have a log of that?
[19:47] <simion314> hi, can I use gnash for youtube video?for me is not working.must be configured?
[19:47] <BSG75> pau: how did you mounted the gfs?
[19:47] <ikonia> jjt009: I don't know, depends on your router and config
[19:47] <jjt009> simion314: not well
[19:47] <ikonia> simion314: gnash doe not work with all flash sites
[19:47] <BSG75> simon314: not very well
[19:48] <iRelinquish> gash is still in development
[19:48] <Stepa1> I need help with the program K3b
[19:48] <BSG75> Stepa1: what kind of help
[19:48] <pau> BSG75: i tried either monunt -a and mount /media/gmail
[19:48] <Stepa1> BSG75: I want to add the Monkey Audio plugin
[19:48] <Jemt> Hey. I'm taking a look inside the Boot CD (I have mounted the ISO image). How do I access the actual files from the root partition? I can't seem to find them anywhere. I want to modify the image so I need access to the "root partition".
[19:49] <simion314> i read on thei gnash web site that it can run youtube but maybe the packages are old
[19:49] <mwe> Jemt, that's not so simple
[19:49] <pau> BSG75: i have it on fstab as is explained at the ubuntu wiki
[19:49] <rama_su> Does anyone know where firefox's addon FlashGot puts downloaded files as default?
[19:49] <Jemt> mwe: Oh ? Why not ?
[19:49] <mwe> Jemt, you can't just mount the iso and modify it
[19:50] <BSG75> pau: I can't remember .. but I have to go pick my daughter up .. I will think of it ..
[19:50] <pau> thanks
[19:50] <BSG75> Stepa1: no idea sorry..  hardly use k3b
[19:50] <ubuntujojo> hi
[19:50] <mwe> Jemt, you need to extract the files and create a new iso. there's wiki about it
[19:50] <Stepa1> BSG75: Okay, thanks
[19:50] <basso> seem to be having problems installing lirc.. bah
[19:50] <pau> BSG75: ok, thanks, see you and good look
[19:50] <Jemt> mwe: Okay, that shouldn't be a problem. Will the root partition files be available then ?
[19:51] <KOJV> Okay, so I\m booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partitions flag to Boot. But still I get this crazy, German ? error... though the installation is Swedish. It says, on a blank DOS page: Fehler beim Laden Betriebssystem.
[19:51] <Stepa1> Can anyone else help me with installing the Monkey Audio plugin into K3b
[19:51] <KOJV> WTF is up with that__
[19:51] <kevin__> tf
[19:51] <finalbeta> Anyone knows if there would be problems to run ubuntu on http://www.intel.com/design/servers/platforms/sr2500SAF/index.htm SR2520SASX ?
[19:51] <mwe> Jemt, I'm not sure I understand what you want
[19:51] <Jemt> mwe: I would like to add a few of my own programs to the disc
[19:52] <Clinteger> Hey, I'm having samba trouble w/ the rerror NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[19:52] <Jemt> mwe: And maybe modify the home directory
[19:52] <Clinteger> what does it mean and how do I fix it?
[19:52] <ubuntujojo> i have a problem with the new ubuntu i habe installed 8.04, now when i try to do the command sudo su i have a problem the console says "sudo: unable to reslove host johannes-desktop"
[19:52] <mwe> Jemt, oh
[19:52] <earthmeLon> Good morning buddies!!!!  I am having a problem with windows borders/outlines staying up after an application is closed.  I am running NVIDIA 8800GTX (drivers installed with envy yesterday) and Compiz.  Any suggestions?
[19:52] <mwe> Jemt, find the wiki, I don't have the direct link, sorry
[19:53] <Jemt> mwe: Thanks :)
[19:53] <Stepa1> I need help installing the Monkey Audio plugin (ape) to K3b
[19:53] <rama_su> Anyone know the default download directory for FlashGot?
[19:55] <KOJV> Okay, so I\m booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partitions flag to Boot. But still I get this crazy, German ? error... though the installation is Swedish. It says, on a blank DOS page: Fehler beim Laden Betriebssystem. WTF is up with that?? Thanks for helping!
[19:55] <ChaosTheory_> How do I uninstall Firefox Beta 3 and install FF 2?
[19:56] <Red-Sox> Hey, I need some help getting my wireless card working on my lenovo Z61t
[19:56] <ChaosTheory_> Uninstalling through Synpatic doesn't seem to make it go away. . .
[19:56] <Noah0504> Does anyone know why there is no .Mac option under Thunderbird under Ubuntu?  I keep reading about it, but I'm not seeing it.
[19:56] <Marius> hi
[19:56] <eureka> anyone has successfully used aria2 and megaupload premium for auto download?
[19:56] <Stepa1> I need help with the Monkey Audio Plugin (ape) for K3b
[19:57] <earthmeLon> Good morning buddies!!!!  I am having a problem with windows borders/outlines staying up after an application is closed.  I am running NVIDIA 8800GTX (drivers installed with envy yesterday) and Compiz.  Any suggestions?
[19:57] <bent_> Stepa1: you might have better luck in #kubuntu... because they use KDE.
[19:58] <unop> KOJV, what language is that in?
[19:58] <Red-Sox> I'm not sure what the matter is, I have the driver installed but when I go to admin > network, there's no wireless option, anyone know what to do?
[19:58] <bent_> earthmeLon: Maybe it's a rouge plugin?
[19:58] <stder1> earthmeLon: what kind of borders/outlines are you talking about? any specific apps?
[19:58] <bent_> Red-Sox: Do you have a broadcom? I have the same problem too.
[19:58] <earthmeLon> bent_ What do you mean?
[19:58] <Red-Sox> bent_: No it's an intel card
[19:58] <bent_> Red\
[19:58] <earthmeLon> stder1, I am not sure.  I think it's the window that asks for my root pw
[19:58] <bent_> Red-Sox: Oh. Well, I still have a similar problem. :/
[19:58] <Marius> i have a radeon 9600 and installed ubuntu today i switch on the restricted driver just 4 testing and then i had a resolution of 640x480 i try to switch it back but its doesnt work after a long time i did it in a way i dont now ... but now the resolution on the login screen and the desktop is diffrent, is there a way to rest it without reinstalling ubuntu?
[19:59] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[19:59] <Stepa1> bent_: But i use Ubuntu, would they still be able to help
[19:59] <stder1> earthmeLon: I've had similar problems, but with specific apps like some under wine, some tunnelling over x... haven't got to the bottom of it yet though
[19:59] <genii> Stepa1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394  may be useful
[20:00] <bent_> Stepa1: Yup, Kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE apps. Their channel is a little less active, but they might use k3b more. I personally don't use it... but you can always join more than one channel.
[20:00] <arex> I think I've installed the sound card drivers correctly, but I can't seem to get any sound. Any troublehshooting tips?
[20:00] <bent_> arex: What kind of card do you have, and are you using 8.04?
[20:00] <Marius> cant help me :/ ?
[20:00] <stder1> earthmeLon: interestingly, I am also running compiz and restricted nvidia drivers...
[20:00] <earthmeLon> stder1 Yeah.  seems there are a couple of posts on the forum with no solutions.  They are all a couple of years old.  I should just install beryl.  I liked it better anyways :P
[20:00] <Stepa1> genii: thanks for that link
[20:01] <genii> Stepa1: np
[20:01] <arex> I have an HDA Intel sound card
[20:01] <bent_> Marius: Erm... I was thinking about it.
[20:01] <Stepa1> bent_: i suppose its #kubuntu?
[20:01] <fxfitz> How do you install all the updates from apt-get in the command line/
[20:01] <bent_> Stepa1: yup.
[20:01] <Marius> bent_: =) and ?
[20:01] <erUSUL> fxfitz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:01] <sjovan> fxfitz: apt-get upgrade ?
[20:01] <earthmeLon> fxfitz run:  sudo apt-get install NAME-OF-APP
[20:01] <Stepa1> thanks all
[20:01] <stder1> earthmeLon: could try. I take it you haven't found a way to clear these remaining window artefacts frmo the screen without restarting the x server either...
[20:01] <fxfitz> Looks like apt-get update and apt-get upgrade will do the trick!
[20:01] <fxfitz> say Thanks!
[20:01] <Marius> bent_: it would be very fine if u can help me
[20:02] <bent_> !x | Marius
[20:02] <ubotu> Marius: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:02] <acomaco> I used the "connect to server" with gnome to connect to my other computers SFTP, but is there a way to become super user?
[20:02]  * bent_ forgot to use a brush out of the shower.
[20:02] <Marius> bent_: this sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a terminal ?
[20:02] <earthmeLon> Actually, stder1, if you open the Compiz settings and uncheck ANY setting, and then re-check it, it dissapears.  This is an annoying solutions, imo
[20:03] <bent_> Marius: You complained of broken resolution, and the last link can probably help you.
[20:03] <arex> bent_: I have an HDA Intel sound card.
[20:03] <stder1> earthmeLon: hmm, I'll give that a whirl next time it happens, cheers... but yeah, it doesn't really sound ideal :)
[20:04] <J-Unit> yo to download cinelerra on ubuntu 7.10 32-bit (http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu) do i do: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then add "deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./"? or does "deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./" belong somewhere else?
[20:04] <J-Unit> lol take out the yo
[20:04] <bent_> !intelhda | arex
[20:04] <ubotu> arex: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:04] <Marius> bent_: ty i try it
[20:04] <arex> ubotu: I've followed that one, and I think correctly, but I have no sound.
[20:05] <arex> bent_: I've followed that one, and I think correctly, but I have no sound.
[20:05] <earthmeLon> Okay, new problem:  When installing ubuntu, the partition manager could not correctly read the HDD I wanted to install ubuntu on.  After using FDISK, i found that one of the partitions on that HDD was 1 cylinder over the limit of my HDD.  I deleted that partition in FDISK, recreated it and set it to NTFS, thinking this would allow the partition manager to correctly read the HDD, which it did, but now I am unable to access the data on the o
[20:05] <earthmeLon> I have tried a number of recovery programs, but nothing is working.  Would anybody mind helping me recover my data?
[20:06] <bent_> earthmeLon: You formatted over the drive with the data you want?
[20:07] <J-Unit> can sum1 plz just help me add the repository of cinelerra or wtv so that i can download it
[20:07] <earthmeLon> bent_ of course not.  Just re-wrote the partition table. I have not touched the HDD space where the data is.  It should all be there intact, I am just unable to access it
[20:08] <earthmeLon> bent_ right now it's set up as NTFS but when trying to recover I get magic errors.
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !cinelerra
[20:08] <ubotu> Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[20:08] <bent_> earthmeLon: Okay. Well, I'm not very good at partitions (seeing how I've destroyed a test computer... really)... maybe someone else can help.
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> earthmeLon, Are you running livecd to try and read it?
[20:09] <adog> is there any trick to installing sata cards with sata drives in ubuntu?  i put the card in, plugged the drive in..  i see the drive under SYSTEM->ADMIN->DISKS,but it doesnt give me the option to format.  it only says "There aren't known partitions in this disk".
[20:09] <earthmeLon> No, I am running my current Ubuntu installation.
[20:09] <earthmeLon> jack_sparrow No, I am running my current Ubuntu installation.
[20:09] <Alex6691> Hey, my touchpad mouse on my laptop wont work, i have plugged a USB mouse into it and that works fine, but the touchpad wont, i havent spilt anything on it and it was working fine last night, then when i woke it wasnt working so im guessin its something to do with Ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> adog, plug in sata cards usually require a driver and most are labeled windows only
[20:09] <iRelinquish> adob, you have to use gparted
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> earthmeLon, what error when you try to mount it
[20:10] <arex> Any ideas where to start troubleshooting sound problems?
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> arex, /join #Alsa
[20:10] <adog> IRelinquish: gparted? is that terminal?
[20:10] <arex> Thanks
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:10] <iRelinquish> its not
[20:10] <adog> an application?
[20:10] <iRelinquish> gui, just type in sudo gparted
[20:10] <iRelinquish> in the terminal
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> please use gksudo gparted
[20:11] <iRelinquish> are you afraid of the terminal?
[20:11] <earthmeLon> Jack_Sparrow one second.  I need to reboot real quickly
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[20:11] <Alex6691> Hey, my touchpad mouse on my laptop wont work, i have plugged a USB mouse into it and that works fine, but the touchpad wont, i havent spilt anything on it and it was working fine last night, then when i woke it wasnt working so im guessin its something to do with Ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:11] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:11] <Rawk02> I am trying to customize my menu Icon but it seems to be going to some odd placeholder icon.  Running 8.04 RC1, could anyone help?
[20:11] <[BT]JaC> teambt@VNL547:~/psybnc$ crontab -e
[20:11] <[BT]JaC> crontabs/teambt: Permission denied
[20:11] <[BT]JaC> any ideas?
[20:11] <Araldia> sorry to interupt, if someone who knows about Edgy has 5 minutes could they let me know please
[20:11] <user3> mtm
[20:11] <adog> "sudo : graprted: command not found"
[20:11] <adog> "gparted"
[20:11] <user3> mtm
[20:11] <Supportter1984> Hi, guys if i buy a Sata hard disk can i put it on a case an connect it to a IDE connector?
[20:11] <user3> pateras
[20:11] <Alex6691> Hey, my touchpad mouse on my laptop wont work, i have plugged a USB mouse into it and that works fine, but the touchpad wont, i havent spilt anything on it and it was working fine last night, then when i woke it wasnt working so im guessin its something to do with Ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:12] <iRelinquish> then install it adog
[20:12] <user3> fotios
[20:12] <user3> sss
[20:12] <user3> s
[20:12] <user3> s
[20:12] <user3> ss
[20:12] <FloodBot1> user3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <adog> IRelinquish, nstalling now
[20:12] <iRelinquish> k
[20:12] <adog> done.
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> user_, if you have a ubuntu support question please ask..
[20:12] <iRelinquish> that will allow you to format an unmounted drive, adog
[20:12] <Rawk02> ﻿I am trying to customize my menu Icon but it seems to be going to some odd placeholder icon.  Running 8.04 RC1, could anyone help?
[20:12] <adog> Oh, nice..  it's got a GUI
[20:12] <Alex6691> Hey, my touchpad mouse on my laptop wont work, i have plugged a USB mouse into it and that works fine, but the touchpad wont, i havent spilt anything on it and it was working fine last night, then when i woke it wasnt working so im guessin its something to do with Ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:12] <Araldia> edgy died on reboot after ndiswrapper install. wont boot in recovery either. any ideas?
[20:12] <adog> Thanks IRelinquish.
[20:13] <iRelinquish> rawk02, head into ubuntu+1
[20:13] <iRelinquish> anytime adog
[20:13] <Rawk02> cool thanks
[20:13] <adog> For laberltype, shouldi just let it default to msdos?  does it matter if i will be sharing this drive with os x and winblowz?
[20:13] <iRelinquish> alex6691, install a synaptics program like ksynaptics
[20:14] <iRelinquish> and see if it is recognized
[20:14] <egrom> is the IMEM-number on a cellphone logged somewhere by default when the phone is mounted in Ubuntu ?
[20:14] <iRelinquish> and its allso in your xorg cofig file. but i'm no expert
[20:14] <Alex6691> so search ksynaptics on synaptic?
[20:14] <iRelinquish> or in terminal just type sudo apt-get install ksynaptics
[20:14] <iRelinquish> yeahh what ever you feel comfertable alex
[20:15] <Alex6691> thanks wil lthat fix my touchpad?
[20:15] <iRelinquish> but thats just to see if ubuntu recognizes it
[20:15] <Alex6691> Oh. xD
[20:15] <XedLos> hey
[20:15] <iRelinquish> it might have an option enabled to turn it off
[20:15] <XedLos> anyone here use screenlets
[20:15] <Alex6691> It was working last night fine, then when i woke up it wasnt workin.
[20:15] <frost0> does anyone know anything about wiring and splicing?
[20:15] <frost0> please...
[20:15] <frost0> it an easy question  :P
[20:15] <iRelinquish> have you rebooted alex6691?
[20:15] <frost0> its*
[20:15] <iRelinquish> i do frost0
[20:15] <Araldia> brb
[20:15] <mnemo> how can I take one video file plus one audio file and combine them into a video which plays that audio file in the background?
[20:15] <Alex6691> Several thousand times.
[20:15] <iRelinquish> shot
[20:16] <XedLos>  i need some help with screenlets
[20:16] <iRelinquish> shoot*
[20:16] <erUSUL> !info avidemux | mnemo
[20:16] <iRelinquish> mnemo, use a video editing program
[20:16] <ubotu> mnemo: avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[20:16] <earthmeLon> Jack_Sparrow:  NTFS signature is missing. Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Invalid argument. The device '/dev/sda2' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[20:17] <frost0> iRelinquish, i am splicing together an xbox cable and a female usb cable to attempt to get xbox linux on my xbox. When I stripped them apart, all cables except the yellow xbox cable were supposed to match up.....everything matches up except on the usb there is a blue cable rather than a white? what should i do...is it safe to put those together?
[20:17] <iRelinquish> haha alex6691
[20:17] <iRelinquish> did you install the program yet?
[20:17] <mario> Hi, I'm having some problems with audio, hardy heron, and my macbook. Is anyone available to help me?
[20:17] <adog> Guys/Girls:   Does it matter what file system i use on a new drive if im sharing it with OS X or windows?
[20:17] <earthmeLon> adog, no
[20:17] <adog> Can i still wit EXT3? i'd imagine so.
[20:17] <XedLos> anyone know how to get the transparent bar behind the widgets on Screenlets
[20:17] <iRelinquish> there is no need for the yellow cable to be used
[20:17] <iRelinquish> actually the xbox doesn't even use it
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> earthmeLon, one sec.. let me look up something
[20:17] <Araldia> do i need to reinstall if recovery doesnt work?
[20:17] <earthmeLon> adog You will want to set up a samba server on Ubuntu and it doesnt matter what filesystem you are using
[20:17] <iRelinquish> it can be left un connected
[20:17] <Alex6691> iRelinquish i have installed ksynaptics what now?
[20:18] <erUSUL> adog: no ext3 is not supported out of the box by wndows or os X
[20:18] <iRelinquish> does it let you configure your synaptics card?
[20:18] <erUSUL> adog: the only true multiplatform fs is fat32 spite its limitations
[20:18] <mario> audio on the internal speakers works great but the audio out doesn't work at all
[20:19] <mnemo> erUSUL: thanks, but my file is in .off format? can I convert it to .avi somehow?
[20:19] <mnemo> .ogg
[20:19] <earthmeLon> adog, erUSUL is correct, but since Ubuntu is acting as a server, it translates the data for you, or at least that is what I've found in the past.  It's just like if you have an HTTD running on your server, on a ext3 partition (which Windows doesnt support) but you can still access the data with your browser in windows :D
[20:19] <adog> erUSUL: but if it's running on a linux machine, it doesnt matter, right?  SAMBA will take care of the rest?
[20:19] <arex> Hello. I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[20:20] <erUSUL> adog: i understand it incorrectly i thought it was a filesystem for a portable hard drive; sorry
[20:20] <adog> erUSUL: no worries.
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> earthmeLon, Ubuntu does not have much in the way of ntfs repair tools..   check out  http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[20:20] <adog> Is creaitng a RAID in ubuntu easy?  ive never done it before.
[20:20] <n2diy> When I click on a link to a file at an ftp mirror, the DL starts ok, but when I try and get the file using wget, I'm getting a "login incorrect" error?
[20:20] <Noah0504> Can anyone tell me why I can't seem to find a .Mac option in Thunderbird?  I keep reading about it, but I'm seeing nothing.
[20:20] <Alex6691> iRelinquish, it comes up with a box saying, Shared memory not accessable please add the option SHMconfig ''ON'' into the touchpad section of etc/x11/xorg.conf
[20:20] <pclync1> are there virus on ubuntu? and if so are there anti-virus programs?
[20:20] <erUSUL> !raid | adog
[20:20] <ubotu> adog: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:20] <adog> erUSUL: thanks :)
[20:20] <erUSUL> !virus | pclync1
[20:20] <ubotu> pclync1: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[20:21] <frost0> iRelinquish, i know, i'm not using the yellow cable...but, the remaining cables do not match up....everything except a white xbox cable and a blue usb cable match...
[20:21] <iRelinquish> so do just that
[20:21] <unop> adog, what matter is the file sharing service being able to read of the filesystem
[20:21] <earthmeLon> Jack_Sparrow, thanks.  Let me read up on this :D
[20:21] <Alex6691> How do i do that?
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> earthmeLon, wish I could do more.. good luck
[20:21] <iRelinquish> alex6691 pm me
[20:21] <iRelinquish> frost0 i dont know they matched up for me
[20:21] <adog> I must say, ive tried a few versions of ubuntu over the years and it's always been a nightmare and ive always just deleted them.. but this latest one (6.06) is amazing. almost everything is working out of the box!
[20:21] <iRelinquish> pm me
[20:21] <Araldia> do i reinstall if i cant boot in recovery or normal boot?
[20:21] <iRelinquish> frost0
[20:22] <iNetScanner> #ubuntu-de
[20:22] <Sinnerman> adog: 6.06 ain't hardly the latest version. we're at 7.10, 8.04 is going to be released in a couple of days :P.
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Araldia, YOu might be able to fix it live.. and live will let you recover your files to usb etc even if you end up reinstalling
[20:22] <justme> hello all
[20:22] <adog> Sinnerman:  but it is for Server, no?
[20:22] <frost0> iRelinquish, it is really weird.
[20:22] <justme> can someone help me with my sound card issue
[20:22] <Araldia> thanks Jack_Sparrow, its a fresh install crashed after ndiswrapper
[20:23] <frost0> iRelinquish, only this would happen to me... :)
[20:23] <LogicalDash>  !ask | justme
[20:23] <Araldia> so nothing to recover
[20:23] <lz1gjd> !vpn
[20:23] <ubotu> justme: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:23] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[20:23] <Sinnerman> adog: they keep the same version numbers as far as i'm aware. maybe im wrong though.
[20:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Araldia, reinstall makes sense on that .
[20:23] <iNetScanner> hello
[20:23] <adog> Sinnerman, for Realz?  imma go check.
[20:23] <iRelinquish> have you checked xbox-scene frost0?
[20:23] <iRelinquish> i want to say thats where i did it
[20:23] <frost0> yeah
[20:23] <Araldia> Jack_Sparrow: thank you. hope it works this time, 5th install today, using edgy now
[20:23] <frost0> i've seen multiple tutorials
[20:23] <frost0> nothing is really helping
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Araldia, I never cared for edgy...
[20:24] <frank_b> does anyone here play wolfenstein: enemy territory?
[20:24] <Araldia> Jack_Sparrow: couldn't get the gutsy install from linux mag to work after install
[20:24] <frost0> frank_b, alot...i run a couple servers.
[20:24] <lz1gjd> what is the easiest and quickest way to connect to a vpn in ubuntu hardy ?
[20:24] <iRelinquish> alex6691?
[20:24] <java-joe> can someone help me with my sound card issue
[20:24] <Noah0504> adog: 7.10 is the latest for the server.  They have the same release cycle.
[20:25] <J-Unit> does any1 no of a pdf file that goes into detail with images on each feature of cinelerra?
[20:25] <Alex6691> Yeah?
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Araldia, did you get it to install but on boot get a black screen.?
[20:25] <java-joe> my sounds seems to be working but my mic is not
[20:25]  * rangef1nder is away (auto-away after 2hrs of inactivity) - (02:26 pm)
[20:25] <iRelinquish> my mic doesn't work either in ubuntu
[20:25] <adog> Noah0504: oh, i didnt see that for some reason when downloading.  that blows i just installed an old version. is it easy to update/grade?
[20:25] <Araldia> Jack_Sparrow: no it had no users installed. adduser and useradd wouldnt work and xstart loaded a ubuntu default with no privs
[20:25] <frost0> iRelinquish, do you think i should just match them up?
[20:25] <KOJV> unop, the error message appears to be German to me.
[20:25] <iRelinquish> sometimes things don't work its reality
[20:25] <Living-Hell> Hi, can anyone help me with my ET? I don't have Sound (even without using TS² ;))
[20:25] <iRelinquish> frost0 let me google it for you
[20:26] <KOJV> Okay, so I\m booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partitions flag to Boot. But still I get this crazy, German ? error... though the installation is Swedish. It says, on a blank DOS page: Fehler beim Laden Betriebssystem. WTF is up with that?? Thanks for helping!
[20:26] <n2diy> When I click on a link to a file at an ftp mirror, the DL starts ok, but when I try and get the file using wget, I'm getting a "login incorrect" error?
[20:26] <arex> Hello. I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Araldia, really odd...  but you entered a user during the install?
[20:26] <frost0> iRelinquish, ths
[20:26] <unop> KOJV, you should probably ask what that means in #ubuntu-de
[20:26] <frost0> thx*
[20:26] <KOJV> Okay unop.
[20:26] <Araldia> Jack_Sparrow: yes indeed. tried twice
[20:26] <frank_b> frost0, does your screen repeatedly gets darker on his own and only gets back to normal if you try to calibrate the brightness (who's value has not changed although you have a darker image)?
[20:26] <Noah0504> adog: Yes, but there might be a couple extra steps upgrading that far ahead.  If you're really just using Ubuntu for a server, I would just stick with 6.06.  That's what I use for mine.
[20:26] <hischild> KOJV, the message please? I might be able to translate.
[20:26] <Living-Hell> hmmm please help me =)
[20:26] <KOJV> hischild: ehler beim Laden Betriebssystem
[20:26] <frost0> frank_b, that has happened once i think...it was just bad nvidia drivers  and overheating i think... i just bought a pci fan and updated drivers i think?
[20:27] <adog> Noah0504, yeah, web server and file server.
[20:27] <adog> and ftp
[20:27] <KOJV> hischild: Fehler beim Laden Betriebssystem
[20:27] <iNetScanner> #ubuntu-de
[20:27] <hischild> iNetScanner, i asked him the message so i could translate it for him.
[20:27] <frank_b> frost0, ok, thanks
[20:27] <Noah0504> adog: Yeah, if it's working, don't worrying about upgrading until 8.10.  I think that's the next LTS release.
[20:27] <iRelinquish> frost0, i can't my speed is so slow
[20:27] <hischild> KOJV, it means it failed to load kernel/filesystem.
[20:28] <MrGnu> Hello all,  I was able to get the dual boot to work.  I just simply disconnected the drive that Ubuntu kept going afte.  whether I stil have the old ubuntu will be something else.  Can I do a post install migration from my old ubuntu into the new, or will I simply have to reinstall the apps?
[20:28] <Cerberus> Hello everybody
[20:28] <jenda> Is there a way to install wine 0.9.60 in Ubuntu 7.10?
[20:28] <frost0> iRelinquish, what do you suggest i do
[20:28] <Living-Hell> KOJV: "Error at loading operating system"
[20:28] <frost0> ?
[20:28] <Joeseph> Okay, yesterday I was asking about the  effeiecnciy of my machine.  I thought I might have just been imagaining things. I'm not. Xorg is eating up half of my cpu, and I just have pidgin open.
[20:28] <adog> Noah0504: thanks for the suggstion.
[20:28] <KOJV> Thank you hischild.
[20:28] <hischild> KOJV, you're welcome
[20:28] <MrGnu> (fromerly had issues with viStA dual but fixed that
[20:28] <MrGnu> )
[20:28] <iRelinquish> i'm uploading a file to sendspace thats why. But just google xbox usb cable splicing
[20:28] <iRelinquish> and tere should be a picture tut
[20:28] <KOJV> So, how do I redeem this error at loading kernel from my USB hard drive??
[20:28] <Araldia> tthnks for your answers
[20:29] <pclync2> are there viruses on ubuntu?
[20:29] <frost0> pclync2, no
[20:29] <n-iCe> 7.10 is ubuntu feisty?
[20:29] <DJones> !virus | pclync2
[20:29] <ubotu> pclync2: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[20:29] <frost0> pclync2, there may have been one created, but it is not really a threat.
[20:30] <KOJV> Okay, so I'm booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partition's flag to Boot. But still I get an error... failed to load kernel. What to do_
[20:30] <frost0> iRelinquish, can you explain this to me? http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/~xbox/xbox-scene/tutorials/XBOX2PC_USB_Wiring_Guide.pdf
[20:30] <DJones> n-iCe: 7.10 is Ubuntu Gutsy, Feisty was 7.04
[20:30] <pclync2> frost0: okay just curious, thank you
[20:31] <Alex6691> iRelinquish it says '' Usng driver version: None''
[20:31] <Cerberus> i always used to use Winblows but since 2 weeks i had to use ubuntu (winblows wouldn't install anymore) and i gotta say i love it . especially since if you have a problem in windows you gotta search for days without much result . with ubuntu i just put the problem in google and find a detailed solution
[20:31] <java-joe> any pointers on getting my microphone to work .. the sound is working fine
[20:32] <iRelinquish> alex6691, your going to have to give me a minute
[20:32] <J-Unit> will hardy be a better OS for 5.1 speakers?
[20:32] <TuxIc1> Cereberus: Welcome!
[20:32] <frost0> iRelinquish, this is quite odd.
[20:32] <Cerberus> you tried looking in the restricted driver list java-joe ? worked with my video card problems
[20:32] <frost0> iRelinquish, maybe i should just go w/ white on blue?
[20:32] <anirudhbsg> hi iam using the ubuntu live cd .... after booting it works for about a minute and then my system makes a sound and it goes in the hang state thereafter ....
[20:32] <Alex6691> iRelinquish i've waited 2 minutes n its still saying none :P
[20:32] <anirudhbsg> can anyone please help me
[20:33] <Joeseph> why is Xorg eating up half my cpu and how do I make it stop?
[20:33] <iRelinquish> there should be no blue frost0
[20:33] <Joeseph> I can't worklike this
[20:33] <iRelinquish> only black yello red and white
[20:33] <Odd-rationale> anirudhbsg: try the alternative cd instead, it usually works better.
[20:33] <iRelinquish> damn i mean no yellow
[20:33] <unop> Cerberus, try and not call windows in such a derrogatory fashion - this is a support channel :)
[20:33] <iRelinquish> green or what ever
[20:34] <frost0> iRelinquish, on this female type a usb dongle, i have red green black blue
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> !alternative | anirudhbsg
[20:34] <ubotu> anirudhbsg: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[20:34] <iRelinquish> ok alex6691
[20:34] <TuxIc1> anirudhbsg: do you get to the desktop
[20:34] <Alex6691> iRelinquish what should i do now?
[20:34] <anirudhbsg> i have tried more than 3 cd's by now
[20:34] <iRelinquish> there should be a white
[20:34] <dassouki> how can i install the the clock that comes with heron on gutsy ?
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> anirudhbsg: all live cd?
[20:34] <iRelinquish> not sure bro
[20:34] <iRelinquish> sorry i can't help
[20:34] <Alex6691> Thanks anyway :)
[20:34] <Cerberus> lol sorry unop but it's hard to talk friendly about windows ;p
[20:34] <anirudhbsg> ok
[20:34] <Joeseph> It should work just fine, I have a 13000 MHZ proccersor
[20:34] <iRelinquish> alex6691 let me google for you
[20:34] <Alex6691> Ok thanks
[20:34] <lz1gjd> how do i connect to a vpn in ubuntu hardy ?
[20:34] <lz1gjd> wowww 13Ghz oMG
[20:34] <iRelinquish> i was refering to frost0 for not being albe to help b/c he has a wierd cable
[20:35] <Joeseph> get rid of a zero sorry
[20:35] <lz1gjd> Id like to see this
[20:35] <gjo> ciao a tutti
[20:35] <pclync2> my system is freezing randomly and the only solution is a hard reset. Whats wron?
[20:35] <NateF> anirudhbsg, thats what im doing now, the Liv CD didnt work, so i got the alternative CD, its alot better, finally got it to install to
[20:35] <gjo> sono con linux mint
[20:36] <frost0> iRelinquish, it is chinese......argh
[20:36] <gjo> come posso connettermi a un server mirc tipo irc.darksin.net?
[20:36] <iRelinquish> alex6691, join this chan #requisition
[20:36] <gjo> qualcuno mi dà una manina grazie
[20:36] <Alex6691> Then what do i do when ive joined?
[20:37] <KOJV> kay, so I'm booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partition's flag to Boot. But still I get an error... failed to load kernel. What to do? Thanks for helping!
[20:37] <iRelinquish> that sucks frost0
[20:37] <morhs> coucou
[20:37] <iRelinquish> i'm in there alex i'll talk to you privately
[20:37] <anirudhbsg> if i install ubuntu in the text mode even after that can i switch to gui mode(sorry....I am using linux for the very first time)
[20:38] <arex> Hello. I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[20:38] <Joeseph> please help? normally I'm not this desperate, but I'm really angry that tihs is happening, my desktop should not be taking up half my porocessing power. xorg is gnome related, yes?
[20:38] <frogscott> I need some help installing simple fonts for cedega to make a game function...any takers?
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> anirudhbsg: if you install in text mode, you will have a gui when you finish and reboot
[20:38] <unop> anirudhbsg, not within the install session no
[20:39] <fimp> hi. I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on my sisters laptop. But when trying to resize the ntfs-partition with gparted it only allows me to make the partition 8mb bigger. I cannot make it smaller. Do you know why this is?
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> anirudhbsg: both the livecd and the alternative cd will instal the exact same thing. only the install will be graphical or text mode respectively
[20:39] <adog> So i set my new drive up, ran gparted, set as ext3.. rebooted but when i got to my file browser and click the drive i get 2 errors "device/xx/xx is not removable" and "could not execute pmount"
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> fimp: try defraging it and try again...
[20:40] <frogscott> I need some help installing simple fonts for cedega to make a game function...any takers?
[20:40] <Joeseph> anyone? I'm trying not to be annoying, but I want an answer.
[20:40] <KOJV> fimp, try doing a full SPACE defrag with O&O Defrag or the like, in Windows, to ensure that no data is spread beyond the needed space on the drive. This should allow you to shrink the NTFS partition later.
[20:40] <anirudhbsg> thanks .....
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: no, xorg is not gnome related...
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: not gnome specific, i mean
[20:41] <fimp> KOJV: cannot I use the defrag tool that comes with windows?
[20:41] <Joeseph> Odd-rationale: what is Xorg? and why is it eating all my Cpu?
[20:41] <tgillespie_> Joeseph your gui system
[20:42] <miku19> Hello all
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: i don't know why it is using so much of you cpu, xorg is the x window system that draws all the gui stuff...
[20:42] <platyhelminth> salut GNUtoo
[20:42] <GNUtoo> platyhelminth, salut
[20:42] <hischild> Joeseph, xorg is the backend that gnome uses to show you all the graphical stuff
[20:42] <thingy> Joeseph: Xorg is the GUI system and if its taking up CPU, then your are probably doing some gui intensive, e.g. playing a video ?
[20:42] <aLeSD_> hi all
[20:42] <fuqi> hi, can anyone help me with HDMI Audio (Amd780g) and Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[20:42] <aLeSD_> what's the name of the package to have docks like in mac os x ?
[20:43] <Odd-rationale> !info awn | aLeSD_
[20:43] <ubotu> alesd_: Package awn does not exist in gutsy
[20:43] <aLeSD_> wow
[20:43] <aLeSD_> thanks
[20:43] <KOJV> fimp:  you can try with Windows Defrag, but that's not as effiencent as a full SPACE defrag. The latter will put all used blocks in a row at the beginning of the drive, so to free up sequential space at the end, in opposition of just defragging all files.
[20:43] <miku19> J'aurais une petite question pour les français. La version de Nexuiz présente dans Ajouter/supprimer est une vieille version, comment lui dire qu'il y en a une nouvelle dispo ?
[20:43] <Odd-rationale> aLeSD_: well it is called awn (avant-window-navigator)
[20:43] <MooIsh> Is it OK to resize NTFS partitions with Ubuntu ?
[20:43] <unop> !fr | miku19
[20:43] <ubotu> miku19: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:43] <kbrooks> !fr | miku19
[20:43] <GNUtoo> miku19, simple...telecharge unzip et run...
[20:43] <snarkster> does anyone have any idea how to fix an encoded DVD with the sound out of synch?
[20:43] <aLeSD_> Odd-rationale: thanks
[20:44] <Odd-rationale> MooIsh: yes
[20:44] <arex> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[20:44] <crimsun> arex: which release?
[20:44] <miku19> Exact xD Thanks
[20:44] <MooIsh> Odd-rationale: And I "generally" shouldn't lose data ?  But windows XP would perform a "chkdsk" I bet?
[20:44] <inet> Hello all, is this the right place to ask about ubuntu server edition?
[20:44] <arex> crimsun: 7.10
[20:44] <adog> can anyone help with my questions above?
[20:44] <earthmeLon> What adog?
[20:44] <Joeseph> Odd-rationale: thingy: all I have up is pidgin... is there a way to rewstart it? Sorry, it's really hard to work under this too
[20:44] <crimsun> arex: please download and run the alsa-info.sh script mentioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[20:44] <unop> inet, you could try here and in #ubuntu-server
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> MooIsh: correct. you "shouldn't" lose date. but be sure to defrag first and backup just in case
[20:45] <arex> crimsun: Thanks.
[20:45] <adog> earthmeLon:So i set my new drive up, ran gparted, set as ext3.. rebooted but when i got to my file browser and click the drive i get 2 errors "device/xx/xx is not removable" and "could not execute pmount
[20:45] <MooIsh> Odd-rationale: do you have any idea how to get 'drivers' for a Dell Photo Printer 540 ?
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: right-click the pidgin icon in the tray and select quit
[20:45] <Speedy> Odd-rationale,  LOL
[20:46] <f0rmat> my screen keeps flashing black :S it just flashes for no particular reason :S
[20:46] <dave_h_d> Hi, i just got my self an ubuntu box with a provider, i pointed my DNS A records to the ip via my domain name interface, what do i need to do now on my ubuntu box to have it so that i can point other domains to it as in: ns.domain.com and ns2.domain.com
[20:46] <erUSUL> !fstab | adog
[20:46] <ubotu> adog: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:46] <dave_h_d> thank you in advance
[20:46] <earthmeLon> adog, what happens when you run: sudo mount -a
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: did you want to restart pidgin or X ? (sorry)
[20:46] <googlah> can I convert a NTFS disk into a ext3 without loosing data?
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> MooIsh: no i don't. sorry. try searching the ubuntu forums...
[20:46] <adog> earthmeLon: nothing. back to command line
[20:46] <unop> adog, also, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305684
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> googlah: not that I know of.
[20:47] <Joeseph> Odd-rationale: Xorg: it's eating up my cpu, notp pidgin
[20:47] <speedhunt3r> hey how do you run a .bin file in terminal?
[20:47] <mutable> What can be useful if I separate / and /home (apart from backup) ?
[20:47] <MooIsh> Odd-rationale: I only see a guy "Name141" asking about his printer also, no replies.  I guess it's not supported?
[20:47] <mutable> is than system faster?
[20:47] <unop> speedhunt3r, chmod +x /path/to/file.bin;  /path/to/file.bin
[20:47] <earthmeLon> hehe, unop wins:D
[20:47] <googlah> but I can have it mounted and read and write to it? on a production server. Odd-rationale? :)
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> Joeseph: to restart X do ctrl+alt+bksp. you will lose all unsaved data. so quit pidgin first.
[20:47] <unop> mutable, sure, always a good idea
[20:48] <Odd-rationale> googlah: yes you can read/write to ntfs
[20:48] <adog> checking link..
[20:48] <Odd-rationale> MooIsh: perhpas not...
[20:48] <googlah> Odd-rationale: great.
[20:48] <pclync2> my system keeps freezing and the only solution is a hard reset. i've tried to see if it's one of the programs i'm running but haven't found anything yet. What's wrong?
[20:49] <MooIsh> Odd-rationale: well there went the switch to Linux.
[20:49] <XedLos> I just installed Heron and wanted a dock wich do you guys recomend?
[20:49] <earthmeLon> I am giving up on trying to recover my partition. I think I might get Acronis Disk Director. :\ Lame
[20:49] <MooIsh> Odd-rationale: it's the only photo printer I have
[20:49] <Bernard_Minet> !fr
[20:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:49] <Cyberai> hey, I have a seriously weird problem here. When I launch a terminal window, no prompt appears and after a few minutes the window goes dark (inactive). I assume the gnome-terminal app is hanging. Is there a config file I can kill to force it back to defaults and possibly fix it?
[20:49] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991176
[20:49] <XedLos> anyone recomend a dock?
[20:49] <adog> so why does ubuntu automatically assume that a new drive is removable and use pmount?
[20:50] <dudeeee34> hi guys
[20:50] <dudeeee34> i am on a quest to turn my ubuntu into a mac
[20:50] <gjo> irc.oltreirc.net
[20:50] <earthmeLon> lol dudeeee34
[20:50] <dudeeee34> but i need a dock
[20:50] <dudeeee34> anyone got any ideas?
[20:50] <ech> lol wut?
[20:50] <unop> adog, ubuntu tries to mount a drive that is not already mounted using pmount (because pmount does not need root permissions) -- and pmount only works with removable drives, in your case the drive isnt
[20:50] <XedLos> i also want a dock which do u guys recomend
[20:50] <Speedy> dudeeee34,  the doc is just annoying
[20:50] <Speedy> but if you MUST have one
[20:51] <Odd-rationale> dudeeee34: google mac4lin
[20:51] <Speedy> try cairo-dock
[20:51] <KOJV> Okay, so I'm booting the Live CD... installed Xubuntu to an USB drive and set the partition's flag to Boot. But still I get an error... failed to load kernel. What to do? Thanks for helping!
[20:51] <dudeeee34> i have mac4lin
[20:51] <crimsun> arex: 1) remove the options snd-hda-intel model=acer  line from /etc/modprobe.d/*
[20:51] <dudeeee34> but they didnt give me a dock
[20:51] <crimsun> arex: 2) install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[20:51] <Odd-rationale> dudeeee34: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin
[20:51] <adog> unop: i see. so every drive i install that is not removable i will need to manually mount it?
[20:51] <dudeeee34> I have the theme set up
[20:51] <mutable> Is it possible to install WinXP on LVM (sorry, but enviroment around me pushes me to have it) ?
[20:51] <unop> adog, well, if you have a non-removable drive, it makes sense to have the system mount it, not you - so just put an entry for it in /etc/fstab - and you wont have any problems
[20:52] <dudeeee34> Also how do i change the icons?
[20:52] <Odd-rationale> XedLos: I reccomend awn (avant-window-navigator)
[20:52] <banditul> what is the application that show what key do u press
[20:52] <ogre> happy 420!
[20:52] <prakriti> does ubuntu have the equivalent of redhat's "chkconfig" or gentoo's "rc-update" ?
[20:52] <ari-j> hello
[20:52] <ogre> oops
[20:52] <ogre> sorry
[20:52] <unop> prakriti, update-rc.d
[20:52] <prakriti> ty
[20:52] <pclync2> my system keeps freezing and the only solution is a hard reset. i've tried to see if it's one of the programs i'm running but haven't found anything yet. What's wrong?
[20:52] <dudeeee34> I love ubuntu now...
[20:53] <linkmaster03> why can I not find the "Pmw" package in Synaptic?
[20:53] <ari-j> wich dvb viewer is best for new ubuntu and a-link usb-dvb
[20:53] <arex> crimsun: Done.
[20:53] <unop> linkmaster03, package names are case sensitive - try using all small case
[20:54] <Odd-rationale> I thought awn is in the gutsy repo? no? why ubotu cannot find it...?
[20:54] <earthmeLon> I use foobar2000 in windows and haven't found something to replace it on ubuntu. I''ve tried amarok and really hate the interface. Any suggestions?
[20:54] <unop> linkmaster03, also have a look on here - http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:54] <linkmaster03> ok ill try those things
[20:55] <linkmaster03> pmw cannot be found
[20:55] <prakriti> ok.. well I have a problem
[20:55] <prakriti> update-rc.d mediatomb defaults
[20:55] <prakriti>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/mediatomb already exist.
[20:55] <arex> crimsun: Do I need to reboot?
[20:55] <prakriti> but it doesn't start by default, I still have to start it by hand after every boot
[20:55] <unop> Odd-rationale, it's called something else, awn-manager i think :)
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> unop: i did apt-cache search avant and it found it....
[20:56] <linkmaster03> i cant even find pwn on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:57] <linkmaster03> pmw i mean
[20:57] <linkmaster03> ew
[20:57] <linkmaster03> i spelled it pwn rofl
[20:57] <thingy> linkmaster03: did you mean python-pmw ?
[20:58] <linkmaster03> heh yes
[20:58] <linkmaster03> thanks people I got it
[20:58] <phirestalker> I have a xerox 6180mfp that will scan to a network folder, it will create tiff files in v6 format. however none of the graphics programs I have on ubuntu 7.10 will open it they complain about invalid tags. does ubuntu support v6 of tiff?
[21:00] <nxusr>  has anyone been able to get the ati remote wonder plus to work withe kernel 2.6.24 and above?
[21:00] <J-Unit> is there any app that allows to check if all 5 speakers in surround sound work?
[21:01] <dudeeee34> Can anyone assist me in a problem that I am having.
[21:02] <dudeeee34> Why can't I enable my desktop effects?
[21:03] <hcoal> Hello
[21:03] <hcoal> When I play a DVD or video file in Ubuntu, the video is not very good quality and pixelated.  I'm using an ATI 3850 card with the latest restricted drivers.  This happens in any video player, including VLC.  Is this a driver issue or is this a common problem I can fix myself?
[21:03] <B-rabbit> hi
[21:03] <nxusr> can someone lend me a hand on getting my ati remote wonder plus working, the module is loaded, but lircd is not discovery it
[21:03] <dudeeee34> Can someone help me enable my desktop effects?
[21:04] <basso> in what
[21:04] <basso> KDE or Gnome?
[21:04] <dudeeee34> Gnome
[21:04] <cameron__> gnome
[21:04] <Jaymac> dudeeee34: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[21:04] <dudeeee34> yes i have tried that but then it says "desktop effects were not enabled"
[21:04] <pclync2> my system keeps freezing and the only solution is a hard reset. i've tried to see if it's one of the programs i'm running but haven't found anything yet. What's wrong?
[21:04] <Jaymac> dudeeee34: what is your graphics card?
[21:05] <cameron__> did you go to System > Preferences > Appearance?
[21:05] <dudeeee34> Um I have no Idea.
[21:05] <dudeeee34> But I know it is not blacklisted.
[21:05] <hcoal> Do you know if it's ATI or NVIDIA?
[21:05] <dudeeee34> No i dont have anyone of those cards.
[21:05] <Odd-rationale> pclync2: hmm. nect time it freezes, see if you can go to ctrl+alt+f2 and log in there...
[21:05] <Odd-rationale> *next
[21:05] <mario> can someone help me getting sound through external speakers work on my macbook?
[21:05] <papy-junior> bonsoir ici
[21:05] <dudeeee34> Wait...
[21:06] <dudeeee34> I do have ATI grapics card.
[21:06] <papy-junior> j'ai un petit souci de son
[21:06] <Jaymac> !fr | papy-junior
[21:06] <ubotu> papy-junior: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:06] <pclync2> Odd-rationale: sometimes i'm able, and sometimes not. what would i do once there?
[21:06] <papy-junior> son tres faible en lecteur video et audio
[21:06] <dudeeee34> Can I still enable them with ATI grapics card?
[21:06] <Jaymac> dudeeee34: yes, but you might need to enable xgl
[21:06] <banditul> what is the application that show what key do u press
[21:06] <kevin__>  preferences now or what ?>
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> pclync2: try running top and it will sow you the mem usage of running processes.
 press ctrl+alt and drag your mouse left
[21:06] <kevin__>  like click move
[21:06] <kevin__>  the desktop
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[21:06] <FloodBot1> kevin__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <aLeSD_> mmm I installed awn ... but is it the one used in the compiz fusion videos in youtube ?
[21:07] <aLeSD_> cause it looks different
[21:07] <J-Unit> does any1 no wat "socialist" is in politics?
[21:07] <tgillespie__> Jaymac doesnt the latest ati driver have aiglx support?
[21:07] <pclync2> Odd-rationale: "top"?
[21:07] <Odd-rationale> pclync2: yes
[21:07] <Jaymac> tgillespie_: the latest ati driver isn't in ubuntu 7.10
[21:07] <Jaymac> tgillespie__: in Hardy xgl isn't required
[21:07] <tgillespie__> Jaymac oh right fair enough
[21:07] <KOJV> Why does Ctrl-F4 close the entire IRC screen in Pidgin, rather than just the active channel?
[21:07] <dudeeee34> How do i enable XGL?
[21:07] <Odd-rationale> KOJV: try ctrl+w to close tab
[21:08] <Jaymac> dudeeee34: just check first, you are on ubuntu 7.10?
[21:08] <tgillespie__> dudeeee34 id wait till hardy if i were you
[21:08] <pclync2> Odd-rationale: okay ill try that thanks :]
[21:08] <crimsun> arex: yes
[21:08] <KOJV> Thanks Odd-rationale!
[21:08] <Jaymac> dudeeee34: if you can wait 5 days you will be able to use t hem on hardy with less fuss :)
[21:08] <arex> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> gtg
[21:08] <dudeeee34> k thankyou
[21:08] <tgillespie__> dudeeee34 xgl is more trouble than its worth
[21:08] <crimsun> arex: did you reboot?
[21:08] <arex> crimsun: Yes.
[21:09] <crimsun> arex: and how did you test sound?
[21:09] <arex> crimsun: Video player at MSNBC website
[21:09] <crimsun> arex: err, isn't that Flash?
[21:09] <askand> ﻿Is there any difference between installing from a live cd or from an alternate?
[21:09] <arex> crimsun: Yes
[21:10] <crimsun> arex: can you try System> Preferences> Sound ?
[21:10] <arex> Sure.
[21:10] <crimsun> (sec, cats)
[21:10] <KOJV> So I have installed Xubuntu to an USB hard drive and set it's flag to Boot. But as I try to boot it by chosing the USB drive from my BIOS boot menu, I get a message in German (my sys language is Swedish) saying the kernel is unable to load. What am I to do in order to boot Xubuntu from my USB hard drive?? Thanks for helping!
[21:10] <arex> crimsun: What should I test?
[21:11] <Speedy> askand,
[21:11] <TuxIc1> y
[21:11] <kejava> any of you ever have trouble with your keyboard not responding after a resume (coming back from suspend to ram) ?
[21:12] <speedhunt3r> can anyone help me with realplayer for linux? plays the video fine but no audio... does it support ALSA or OSS or both?
[21:12] <TuxIce> how do you create an irc channel
[21:12] <Speedy> ultimatly you get the same OS. but the live cd allows you to see the desktop and have a little play around first, the other is a text based installer <<<askand
[21:12] <Speedy> TuxIce,  just join the channel you want to create
[21:12] <Jaymac> TuxIce: just join an empty channel :)
[21:12] <TuxIce> and how do i register it to myself
[21:12] <linkmaster03> might wanna ask that in #help
[21:13] <Jaymac> TuxIce: http://freenode.net/
[21:14] <Speedy> speedhunt3r, realplayer is scum
[21:14] <notdarkyet> join #gsoc
[21:14] <Jaymac> notdarkyet: you need a / in front of join :) i.e /john
[21:14] <Jaymac> umm, /join*
[21:15] <cameron__> what IRC client do you all use?
[21:15] <Jaymac> cameron__: xchat
[21:15] <KOJV> speedhunt3r: any decent media player will play FakeStreams... so you don't need FakePlayer. Get a codec pack or something, which I believe should be available for Ubuntu too, like K-lite Mega Codec Pack for Windows... Google is your friend!
[21:15] <thebigham> Hello, i'm new to ubuntu and have install ubtuntu on my laptop for the first time.
[21:15] <KOJV> So I have installed Xubuntu to an USB hard drive and set it's flag to Boot. But as I try to boot it by chosing the USB drive from my BIOS boot menu, I get a message in German (my sys language is Swedish) saying the kernel is unable to load. What am I to do in order to boot Xubuntu from my USB hard drive?? Thanks for helping!
[21:15] <Speedy> good for you
[21:15] <thebigham> How can i enable the wireless on my latop?
[21:16] <Speedy> thebigham,  what wifi card you got?
[21:16] <thebigham> I believe the wireless on my laptop is broadcom
[21:16] <phirestalker> does ubuntu support tiff v6 completely?
[21:16] <Speedy> in ther terminal  lspci
[21:16] <thebigham> My computer is a dell xps m1330
[21:16] <Oberon> Hi, i'm reinstalling Ubuntu and i was wondering what partition size is recommended for the root drive.
[21:17] <Killy> hi guys I need an advice
[21:17] <Zoem> Do buttons need to be mapped in xorg.conf before they will be recognized by xev
[21:17] <Zoem> ?
[21:17] <KOJV> thebigham: Ubuntu has great support for network cards from the live cd already. Are you sure the wifi is physically enabled? There's a button or switch on your laptop.
[21:17] <crimsun> arex: any of the playback options
[21:18] <gogeta> :P
[21:18] <n-iCe> can anyone check http://www.sadasdasd.pastebin.com/m208bb956
[21:18] <n-iCe> and tell me if are ok, please.
[21:18] <Killy> Was the bug in 7.10, which was killing the laptop harddisk, fixed in that 7.10?
[21:18] <n-iCe> are my sources.list
[21:18] <thebigham> KOJV: yes i do believe the wireless is physically enabled. It worked on the live CD, but once i install it, it doesnt work anymore.
[21:18] <nxusr> lirc not discovery remote wonder plus
[21:18] <Speedy> Killy,  its not really an ubuntu bug
[21:19] <Killy> Speedy, not an ubuntu bug?
[21:19] <Speedy> n-iCe, i looked at the file, looks ok? whats the prob?
[21:19] <Speedy> Killy, not really no
[21:19] <Speedy> its the default setting for the hdd
[21:19] <Speedy> or the bios
[21:19] <Speedy> which isnt an ubuntu issue
[21:19] <KOJV> thebigham: that's very strange. >S
[21:19] <n-iCe> Speedy: no problem rearlly my problem is get work my wireless card but I think I got a good manual broadcom card indeed
[21:19] <Speedy> although they are looking into it as a gracious gesture
[21:19] <Zoem> Do buttons need to be mapped in xorg.conf before they will be recognized by xev?
[21:20] <fantasilva> ciao a tutti
[21:20] <Speedy> n-iCe,  ubuntu works with wifi very well, check wifi isnt disabled
[21:20] <Shizzo> The default WM for ubuntu is Gnome?
[21:20] <Speedy> Shizzo,  yes
[21:20] <fantasilva> !list
[21:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:20] <lz1gjd_> which irc client do you use under gnome ?
[21:20] <n-iCe> Speedy: not with mine :p
[21:20] <Speedy> lz1gjd, i use x-chat
[21:20] <dudeeee34> Can anyone help me figure out the form of installation on ubuntu. In windows there would be like .exe .zip and .cab. What are the things here?
[21:20] <Speedy> n-iCe,  check wifi isnt disabled
[21:20] <Zoem> dudeeee34: .deb
[21:20] <Killy> So you say ubuntu 7.10 is totally safe if I install it on my laptop?
[21:20] <KOJV> n-iCe: I don't know what it is I'm looking at here... at your pastebin...
[21:20] <dudeeee34> .deb is like .exe?
[21:20] <Speedy> dudeeee34,  can you explain specificly what you mean?
[21:20] <rainwalker> how do I get to the print queue?
[21:21] <Zoem> no, it's like something you use to install stuff
[21:21] <Zoem> there is nothing like .exe
[21:21] <tomd123> dudeeee34: no, .deb is more like .msi
[21:21] <gogeta> dudeeee34 its like a msi yea
[21:21] <dudeeee34> I want to know like .deb is like .exe then what is like .zip and stuff
[21:21] <n-iCe> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[21:21] <Zoem> dudeeee34: any file can be executed
[21:21] <nxusr> please help with ATI Remote Wonder Plus-- lirc not recognizing it
[21:21] <tomd123> dudeeee34: .deb is used to install the program
[21:21] <n-iCe> is my wireless card
[21:21] <dudeeee34> ah
[21:21] <loxley_> dudeeee34: no its a package, precompiled
[21:21] <Jill_Not_Jack> Hi, Quick question. I just got a new laptop. Both 32 and 64-bit versions of Hardy Heron will install. I would like to use the 64 bit version because it's lightning quick! Can I still run 32-bin software on it, or will I be limited in what I will be able to install on the 64-bit Version?
[21:21] <gogeta> dudeeee34 .tgz .bz2 .zip
[21:21] <gogeta> dudeeee34 linxu uses the same compression is another os
[21:21] <Speedy> system>adminstration>printing rainwalker
[21:21] <gogeta> dudeeee34 as
[21:22] <KOJV> dudeeee34: Linux doesn't use like .exe... the programs just have names and instead of .zip there's .gzip which often contains a .tar (tarball, like an uncompressed archive).
[21:22] <rainwalker> Speedy: that takes me to the printer settings, not the print queue
[21:22] <Zoem> Do buttons need to be mapped in xorg.conf before they will be recognized by xev?
[21:22] <gogeta> KOJV  linux can handel standerd formats to
[21:22] <magnetron> rainwalker: when there's something in the print queue, i usually get a separate printer icon in the notification area
[21:22] <Speedy> rainwalker,  applications>accessories>manage print jobs
[21:22] <KOJV> gogeta: of course. But Linux software isn't distributed as .zip or .rar, like Win32 stuff.
[21:23] <Speedy> rainwalker,  applications>accessories>manage print jobs
[21:23] <Whatsinaname> Hello,  I was looking for help with samba.  I have it set up, but I am having problems.  I have a shared folder, but when users put files in, it retains them as owner.  others can not change or delete.  I want all files in this folder to be accessable for edit and delete.
[21:23] <Killy> Speedy, so if I install ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop, it would totally safe and my hdd wouldn't die? ;)
[21:23] <Killy> would be*
[21:23] <rainwalker> Speedy: thank you
[21:23] <Shizzo> Why would your hd die?
[21:23] <Speedy> Killy, you need to re-read the bug report and fully understand it
[21:23] <Speedy> Shizzo,  the hdd killer "bug"
[21:24] <Killy> Speedy oki thankie
[21:24] <unop> Killy, your hdd won't physically die by you installing an OS on it.. but you should backup any data before you partition the disk
[21:24] <Shizzo> oh.  Like, it bricks your machine?
[21:24] <Speedy> killy, chances are, your hdd would have a lesser life span, but there is a workaround
[21:24] <Zoem> Do buttons need to be mapped in xorg.conf before they will be recognized by xev?
[21:24] <unop> Speedy, eh?
[21:24] <Speedy> unop, eh?
[21:24] <achandrashekar> Im looking to build an external dns server for my domain, anyone have a good resource for how to?
[21:25] <Scunizi> Zoem: which buttons?
[21:25] <unop> Speedy, why would a hdd ave a "lesser life span" if you installed linux on it?
[21:25] <Zoem> Scunizi: 6-8
[21:25] <zionpsyfer> Just make sure you do the workaround..  I waited a few months before remembering that bug and racked up >100000 on my load cycle count
[21:25] <Scunizi> Zoem: wacom tablet.. keyboard.. ?
[21:25] <Speedy> unop, ubuntu doesnt do anything to prevent agressive powersaving features from wearing most laptop hdd's down
[21:25] <nxusr> unop, any suggestions on getting my ati remoter wonder plus working?
[21:26] <gogeta> unop i think hes talking abought that hold bug/rumer on harddrives
[21:26] <jontux> j'ai un probleme avec steam amis quelqu'un pour m'aider ?
[21:26] <unop> achandrashekar, see the bind9 howto on tldp.org
[21:26] <Zoem> Scunizi: umm, yes, I have a keyboard, no wacom
[21:26] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  doesnt the workaround casue excessive heat though?
[21:26] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: we may be talking about different workarounds.  I just run hdparm -B 255
[21:26] <Zoem> Scunizi: the mouse is Logitech G5 with scroll, middle, tilt, and a side button
[21:27] <jontux>  I have a problem with steam amis nobody for help me
[21:27] <Zoem> Scunizi: 8 buttons total
[21:27] <tul> hi everybisy!
[21:27] <Shizzo> Is it a problem with ever version of *buntu?  The hd problem?
[21:27] <Scunizi> Zoem: many people (including me) use "Key Touch" it's in the repos.. it doesn't do anything to xorg.. some keyboard will just not work with their additional keys..
[21:27] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  what exactly did that do for you?
[21:27] <arex> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[21:27] <Speedy> arex,  i have intel sound, it worked out of the box
[21:27] <Shizzo> Does ubuntu use ALSA or Pulse?
[21:27] <Speedy> what you got?
[21:27] <Zoem> Scunizi: this is a mouse thing...
[21:28] <Speedy> Shizzo,  alsa
[21:28] <tul> does any1 knows how to remove "Link to " prefix from multiple folders name?
[21:28] <username> ALSA I think
[21:28] <arex> I have Intel HDA
[21:28] <Speedy> arex,  laptop?
[21:28] <Prefix> lol highlight.
[21:28] <arex> Yes
[21:28] <Speedy> what make
[21:28] <Speedy> and mdel
[21:28] <Speedy> *model
[21:28] <arex> Compal
[21:28] <lz1gjd> how do i fix the video in totem, when resized to fit the screen in fullscreen mode the image is ... pixelated ?
[21:28] <tul> does any1 knows how to remove "Link to " prefix from multiple folders name?
[21:28] <Scunizi> Zoem  hang on looking for a link for you.
[21:28] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: My hdd no longer cycles off and my load_cycle_count has stopped climbing like a rocket.  It hasn't really hurt my battery life either as the hdd could never really stay in the PS mode
[21:29] <johnbran> has anyone been able to get the xrdp package on hardy to work?
[21:29] <akhilesh> hi
[21:29] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Providing your samba shares are not sitting on a FAT32 drive, I think what you are looking for is called a mask
[21:29] <cameron122000> lzlgjd: that's just your video
[21:29] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html Check this out
[21:29] <lz1gjd> cameron122000: dont think so
[21:29] <Shizzo> mmmm...root beer float
[21:29] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack thank you
[21:29] <cameron122000> is it the same resolution as your screen?
[21:29] <arex> Speedy: Compal IFL90+
[21:30] <lz1gjd> cameron122000:  no, its from a dvd
[21:30] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  sounds interesting, i am yet to implement a fix to the problem, i have had this laptop for 4 days and already the load cyle  count is at 5739
[21:30] <Speedy> i'm sure thats insanely high?
[21:30] <lz1gjd> cameron122000: but should be rescaled ? to fit the screen using some algorithm
[21:30] <cameron122000> yeah when I watch from DVD's that happens too
[21:30] <Speedy> for the amount of time i've had the machine
[21:30] <Killy> well I guess I'd install ubuntu anyway, I still have a 2 years warranty on the laptop :)
[21:30] <cameron122000> it's because your monitor doesn't have scaling built into it like TV's
[21:30] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: ouch. :/
[21:30] <Speedy> killy you can apply the workaround to the problem
[21:31] <lz1gjd> cameron122000: but the player should do the scaling itself
[21:31] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  run that command by me again
[21:31] <DriveTrax> .......... I LOVE IT!  ..... I Dunno what it is doing, but..... I LOVE IT  !
[21:31] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: No worries mate. I had the same issue a while back. I couldn't resolve my issue though as my shares were sitting on an external USB 2.0 FAT32 disk. It turns out that FAT32 does not support emulation for UNIX permissions sufficiently to allow SAMBA to manage control of read/write functions.
[21:31] <akhilesh> im new to ubuntu ... i have a usb bluetooth receiver .. had software for it on windows and i could sync contacts and stuff .. its a regular bluetooth usb device .. gets recognised in all windows machines .. how do i get it to work on ubuntu .. it doesnt seem to find it
[21:31] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: I just make a shell script in /etc/init.d that runs hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[21:31] <Scunizi> Zoem: Here's a couple of links.. One is for a bug report and the other seems to explain how to get most things working.. http://tektix.org/blog/linux-howtos/ubuntu-and-logitech-g5-refresh ...... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/83571
[21:31] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  does the script have to run at boot time every time
[21:31] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  does the script have to run at boot time every time?
[21:31] <Speedy> ?
[21:31] <Iceman_B> greetings, anyone knowledgable on Bluetooth dongles and edgy ?
[21:32] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack it is an ext3
[21:32] <lz1gjd> it looks ok in mplayer though
[21:32] <zionpsyfer> Speedy:  Then I just symlinked it to /etc/rc2.d/S99hd-fix.  Yes, my understanding is that it needs to run each boot.
[21:32] <DriveTrax> where can I find out what Ubuntu I downloaded, is there a place to see on the desktop?
[21:32] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Quids in then. ;)
[21:32] <DriveTrax> bazhang:  ---- It works  !!!
[21:32] <DJones> !version | DriveTrax
[21:32] <ubotu> DriveTrax: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[21:32] <conartist6> go to System>Administration>System Monitor
[21:32] <arex> crimsun: Testing in the Sound Preferences doesn't work either.
[21:32] <unop> Speedy, you could just put the hdparm command in /etc/rc.local  on a line of its own before the last line
[21:33] <conartist6> and its under System
[21:33] <DriveTrax> k
[21:33] <Jill_Not_Jack> DriveTrax: Open System > Preferences > System Monitor. Look at the "System" tab.
[21:33] <Speedy> zionpsyfer,  thanks for the tip, I'm hoping this won't melt my hdd by keeping it running for large amounts of time
[21:33] <Zoem> Scunizi: thank you... it looks like nvidia-xconfig has not been updated for the new evdev.
[21:33] <Jill_Not_Jack> ...what conartist6 said.
[21:33] <conartist6> I need to kill my X session to install the nvidia drivers
[21:33] <conartist6> how do I do it?
[21:33] <Zoem> conartist6: you need to kill the whole gdm
[21:33] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack it also helps to restart samba :)  I spent at least half an hour before I figured it out lol.
[21:33] <Scunizi> Zoem: greek to me.. :)
[21:33] <conartist6> uuh, ok
[21:33] <conartist6> how?
[21:33] <Zoem> conartist6: use sudo killall gdm
[21:33] <unop> conartist6, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[21:33] <DriveTrax> gutsy!
[21:33] <conartist6> k
[21:34] <DriveTrax> No LSB available?
[21:34] <conartist6> this will probably disconnect me eh
[21:34] <Iceman_B> when I try to make a bluetooth conenction to my phone, I get "obex://[00:1c:43:e4:f4:ea]" is not a valid location.
[21:34] <Zoem> conartist6: very much so ;)
[21:34] <conartist6> goodbye
[21:34] <Iceman_B> anyone know how to solve this ?
[21:34] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Yes - I did the same. Congratulations on your record breaking time of 30 mins though!
[21:34] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: Nah, you're still way good on the cycle count.  Try unops method, probably easier than my method.  :P
[21:34] <Speedy> Iceman_B, yeah, stop calling it a dongle
[21:34] <linkmaster03> guys, this shows up in the terminal when I try to execute any java command. I have tried reinstalling Java but the same thing happens: "bash: java: command not found
[21:34] <akhilesh> i need help getting a blue tooth dongle to work with ubuntu
[21:34] <Zoem> Scunizi: when nvidia drivers configure xorg.conf, they use an old version of the input services
[21:34] <Speedy> zionpsyfer, thanks for the tip
[21:34] <Iceman_B> Speedy, what do you mean ?
[21:34] <DriveTrax> that was cool, too!!!
[21:34] <magnetron> Iceman_B: you need to install the gnome-vfs-obexftp package
[21:34] <DriveTrax> everything is Cool
[21:34] <Iceman_B> oh
[21:35] <Scunizi> conartist6: first CTRL+ALT+F2.. log in then if you're running gnome.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. now install after installation.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:35] <Jill_Not_Jack> New Question: Who can advise me on whether to use 32-bit or 64-bit?
[21:35] <adog> when setting the permissions on a folder.  where do i put username:username  or is it username:group ?
[21:35] <Iceman_B> right, I'll try that
[21:35] <adog> not where, *WHY*?
[21:35] <unop> linkmaster03, try this again.   sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin
[21:35] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack well I had spent much much more then that on other samba stuff.  half the fun is figureing it all out.
[21:35] <Iceman_B> and whats wrong with the term "dongle" :p
[21:35] <Scunizi> Zoem: that's cause the restricted drivers don't really use xorg now.
[21:35] <DriveTrax> Jill_Not_Jack:  --- Helper in here said get 32, cas tha 64 is for like MASSIVE digit counting
[21:35] <Scunizi> Zoem: at least from what I understand.
[21:35] <KOJV> So I have installed Xubuntu to an USB hard drive and set it's flag to Boot. But as I try to boot it by chosing the USB drive from my BIOS boot menu, I get a message in German (my sys language is Swedish) saying the kernel is unable to load. What am I to do in order to boot Xubuntu from my USB hard drive?? GRUB won't install, root command says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string" and find /boot/grub/stage1 gives me "Error 
[21:36] <linkmaster03> unop: same error on Java commands
[21:36] <unop> adog, from the chown manpage -- chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...
[21:36] <DriveTrax> Jill_Not_Jack:  now, I dunno, but.. thas what 64 is all for
[21:36] <adog> thanks unop.
[21:36] <arex> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but still have no sound. How should I start troubleshooting?
[21:36] <Zoem> Scunizi: it's a bit complicated because I actually have to use beta version from NVidia... normal restricted doesn't support my card yet
[21:36] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack now if I can just figure out what mask to use :)
[21:36] <unop> linkmaster03, i'm only interested in what that aptitude command did for now.  please use the !pastebin (do not paste in here) and show us what it did.
[21:36] <Jill_Not_Jack> Drivetrax: Gotcha. Would 32-bit apps still run on 64-bit install? I am leaning towards 64, because it's HELLA faster!
[21:37] <akhilesh> KOJV: why would you install it on a usb hdd ?
[21:37] <thevoidreturns> help no idea on how to register - first main time using irc - can a staffer(???) help me please?
[21:37] <Kaja> ...it's not faster...
[21:37] <Scunizi> Zoem: sounds like you have a 9000 series nvidia?  I'm pretty sure that the 8000 series is supported.
[21:37] <linkmaster03> !pastebin
[21:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:37] <unop> Jill_Not_Jack, an OS being 64bit  does not make it faster than a 32bit counterpart .. but yes, you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit system
[21:37] <DriveTrax> Jill_Not_Jack:  -- Well, I would hope those 32bit proggies would not be trash now.. wouldn't you!
[21:37] <unop> !register | thevoidreturns
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[21:37] <crimsun> arex: please rerun the alsa-info.sh script
[21:38] <Jill_Not_Jack> DriveTrax/unop: You reckon it was just a placebo effect?
[21:38] <Zoem> Scunizi: yes. 9600gt... Even NVidia's drivers aren't very good yet. They crash constantly on windows
[21:38] <adog> Can i setup a folder up to give permissions to root AND another user or GROUP?
[21:38] <arex> crimsun: Ok!
[21:38] <Iceman_B> gah, xchat...I need to tweak the colors
[21:38] <unop> Jill_Not_Jack, i'm positive
[21:38] <Iceman_B> I'm so used to mirc ._.
[21:38] <DriveTrax> 64 give you big brains
[21:38] <linkmaster03> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63867/
[21:38] <thevoidreturns> thank you obotu
[21:38] <Speedy> Iceman_B,  mirc is pretty crappy
[21:38] <Scunizi> Zoem: since I have an older machine (agp) I'm running a 6600 and it's been pretty flawless.. occational weirdness but not often.
[21:38] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Octal file permissions instructions here - http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml#numeric
[21:38] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991226
[21:39] <KOJV> akhilesh: shouldn't I install Xunbutu to an USB drive? I'm doing that because I've got no free internal drive.
[21:39] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: Xirc FTW
[21:39] <zionpsyfer> unop: rc.local, good tip.  thanks. =)  Here's more info on what speedy was talking about: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielHahler/Bug59695
[21:39] <unop> linkmaster03, what does this give you?  ls /usr/bin/java*
[21:39] <Zoem> Scunizi: when I was using 7300 gts in sli, it was perfect. It's just the new chipset for 9600 that is squirelly
[21:39] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:39] <linkmaster03> unop: /usr/bin/java  /usr/bin/java-rmi.cgi  /usr/bin/java_vm  /usr/bin/javaws
[21:39] <unop> linkmaster03, ok, and this?   echo $PATH
[21:40] <crimsun> arex: did you compile 1.0.16 yourself?
[21:40] <arex> crimsun: Yes
[21:40] <Iceman_B> Speedy, I have been working with if for a few years, works like a charm
[21:40] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack thanks again :)
[21:40] <linkmaster03> unop: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:40] <KOJV> So I have installed Xubuntu to an USB hard drive and set it's flag to Boot. But as I try to boot it by chosing the USB drive from my BIOS boot menu, I get a message in German (my sys language is Swedish) saying the kernel is unable to load. What am I to do in order to boot Xubuntu from my USB hard drive?? GRUB won't install, root command says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string" and find /boot/grub/stage1 gives me "Error 
[21:40] <Scunizi> Zoem: when it's a little older and the new 10k series is announced.. it'll probably work great. :)
[21:40] <crimsun> arex: then you need to remove linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r) and then reinstall alsa-driver-1.0.16
[21:40] <Iceman_B> I installed the obex thing btw, and a few other packages, bluetooth seems to work now
[21:40] <Iceman_B> thanks
[21:40] <unop> zionpsyfer, interesting .. i didnt know this was such a big issue, i just relied on hdparm all the while, thanks again
[21:40] <arex> crimsun: Ok.
[21:40] <Speedy> ice_cream,  as does xchat
[21:40] <DriveTrax> I think, it is soooo nice... I thought, this Unetbootin is not working!  I left it on overnight after it started installing software, and Boom, I woke up with Ubuntu!  First, I looked at FireFox, and searched google.. (No set-up) then, I said where is chat.. and after Ksirc install.. Boom! here we are!  Cool!
[21:40] <Zoem> Scunizi: since I only buy video cards once every 2 years or so, that's just fine :)
[21:40] <Jill_Not_Jack> Unop / DriveTrax: Thanks for the info guys. BTW - I was thinking of buying Microsoft Windows Vista. It has really fancy effects and stuff and it's ULTRA secure according to the Microsoft homepage! What version of Vista is best in your opinion?
[21:41] <Zoem> hafta restart x, brb
[21:41] <akhilesh> KOJV: well im quite sure one may be able to figure that out in here .. these guys are quite good .. but i still recommend you install it on an internal drive
[21:41] <Speedy> having one of the latest models of laptop on the market is a real bitch when it comes to googleing for issues and support, everyone is like.. erm, thats a new model we have never come accorss it yet
[21:41] <akhilesh> KOJV: ditch windows if you have to believe me its worth it bro
[21:41] <linkmaster03> unop: echo $PATH returns /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:42] <unop> linkmaster03, how about.  /usr/bin/java -version
[21:42] <DriveTrax> is there a list of the programs available for Ubuntu on the internet?  or, a firwall for this box?
[21:42] <linkmaster03> unop: bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory
[21:42] <Jill_Not_Jack> I used Vista for the first time and it had really cool 3D window switching things!
[21:43] <Jill_Not_Jack> And it comes with Windows Defender
[21:43] <unop> Jill_Not_Jack, i'm not really interested in vista, my friends have mixed opinions about it, guess it really is down to the individual user on this one, so try it out to see what it is like -- and this is an off-topic question
[21:43] <blind> How can I have two programs playing sound at the same time?
[21:43] <sauvin> .oO("Windows Defender"?)
[21:43] <rsc___> blind, you should be able to by default.
[21:43] <unop> linkmaster03, ls -l /usr/bin/java
[21:43] <blind> rsc___: welll.. i can't. i've also done a lot of things to my system that im not so sure about
[21:43] <nxusr> lircd.conf http://rafb.net/p/EtlPWz18.html
[21:43]  * Jill_Not_Jack is ****stirring ;)
[21:44] <thevoidreturns> lol windows defender
[21:44] <nxusr> trying to setup ati remote control wonder --- no luck so far
[21:44] <unop> !ot
[21:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:44] <rsc___> blind, what program didn't want to play sounds while another was playing?
[21:44] <arex> crimsun: Now I have done it.
[21:44]  * Jill_Not_Jack is also ACTUALLY wearing an Ubuntu T-Shirt!! (On-topic)
[21:44] <kris-> Q: what is the U ultimate IRC channel?
[21:44] <jftsang> hello
[21:44] <blind> well, i can't play sounds via anything while another program that uses sound is running.
[21:44] <jftsang> I recently installed Ubuntu Linux onto a USB flash drive which was on a computer which ran WinXP Professional. The install worked, and none of my files have been damaged. However, the computer insists on booting from GRUB, so refuses to boot should I not have my USB flash drive connected. Also, the default OS to boot into is now Ubuntu; I want to change it to be WinXP. How?
[21:44] <DriveTrax> nxusr:  I must do that now, cas I got a 9600 card.. to use
[21:44] <linkmaster03> unop: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2008-04-17 16:29 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[21:44] <rsc___> blind, did you mess up anything related to ESD?
[21:45] <akhilesh> Jill_Not_Jack: whats windows defender ??
[21:45] <blind> rsc___: I know esd is running, but I don't know.
[21:45] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: An oxymoron.
[21:45] <akhilesh> Jill_Not_Jack:  like a game or somthing ?
[21:45] <linkmaster03> unop: i was looking at the "java" file in the browser
[21:45] <Kleidersack> Sorry, can I make Grub run from the boot-sector of an logical drive (sda5)
[21:45] <nxusr> DriveTrax, have you been able to get it working?
[21:45] <jftsang> akhilesh, it's a "firewall"
[21:45] <linkmaster03> unop: I found that it was linking to icedtea which was uninstalled
[21:45] <sauvin> I expect it would be a firewall/virus scanner/whatever
[21:45] <Iceman_B> anyone know how to get my keyboard to behave like US-intl in XP? meaning I can type a ' and not having to type a space after it ?
[21:45] <tomd123> akhilesh: it's windows "solution" to spyware
[21:45] <linkmaster03> unop: I reinstalled it, and it seems to work fine now :D
[21:45] <DriveTrax> nxusr:  I am about to go to see about drivers
[21:45] <unop> linkmaster03, it appears that /usr/bin/java is not pointing to the right file
[21:45] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: "A game"........hrmmm. Yes. I suppose you could call it that.
[21:46] <unop> linkmaster03, right :)
[21:46] <linkmaster03> unop: thanks for leading me to that file :P
[21:46] <adog> how does ubuntu to respond to external ntfs drives?
[21:46] <unop> linkmaster03, it's all about executing the right troubleshooting steps :)
[21:46] <linkmaster03> :D
[21:47] <Jill_Not_Jack> jftsang: http://makingtheswitch.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/changing-grub-boot-order-to-boot-windows-xp-before-ubuntu/
[21:47] <tomd123> adog: it sees them, I don't know if there is read/write support, I'm guessing there is
[21:47] <Speedy> how can i find out the make of my hadd?
[21:47] <Speedy> **hdd
[21:47] <Shizzo>  Wow. It is unreal how many people are in this channel.  The conversations are hard to keep up with, because there is so much going on...
[21:47] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991230
[21:47] <jftsang> Jill_Not_Jack, thanks, I'll try to understand that :)
[21:47] <DriveTrax> nxusr:  -- what ATI product do you have, again?
[21:47] <Iceman_B> Shizzo, in a way, that's a good thing isnt it ?
[21:47] <tomd123> Shizzo needs more caffeine
[21:48] <Kleidersack> Sorry, can I make Grub run from the boot-sector of an logical drive (sda5)?
[21:48] <nxusr> DriveTrax, Remoter Wonder Plus
[21:48] <DriveTrax> k
[21:48] <Shizzo> Yeah...its a good thing.
[21:48] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: smartctl -a provides that data at the top of its output
[21:48] <Shizzo> Im thinking about installing kubuntu on my eeepc
[21:48] <crimsun> arex: you're still running 1.0.15rc, not 1.0.16.
[21:48] <akhilesh> Jill_Not_Jack: hey would you know how to configure a bluetooth dongle in ubuntu so i could send / receive stuff from my cell phone ?
[21:48] <adog> tomd123: cxan i give a external ntfs drive read permissions?
[21:48] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:48] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: why?
[21:48] <steve__> hey has anyone had any experience of using fetchmail?
[21:48] <tomd123> Shizzo: if you want something slower/ you can keep track of easily, go to the ubuntu forums
[21:48] <nxusr> http://rafb.net/p/EtlPWz18.html my config
[21:48] <Shizzo> Is the next ubuntu release supposed to be an LTS distro?
[21:48] <blind> How can I upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, then to Gutsy?
[21:49] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: The default xandros wasnt to my liking...Although, it is much better than Mandrova
[21:49] <Shizzo> errr...Mandriva
[21:49] <arex> crimsun: How do I uninstall it? Because i just ./configure;make;make installed from a 10.0.16 tarball
[21:49] <Iceman_B> é
[21:49] <Iceman_B> oh hey, I got it
[21:49] <maskman> m
[21:49] <tomd123> adog: I don't know, I really haven't used linux to do anything with ntfs drives
[21:49] <Iceman_B> €
[21:49] <steve__> I have set up fetchmail to download mail from an account, and it says it is downloading it, but I cant find where the mail is being downloaded to
[21:49] <jftsang> Thanks, but that still doesn't help as much. Although it will now boot to WinXP by default, my problem still remains - do I have to keep my USB flash drive plugged in?
[21:49] <el_ruso> help with ubuntu in ad-hoc mode
[21:49] <DriveTrax> nxusr:  -- what number is the video card called.. what series?
[21:49] <crimsun> arex: no, I mean that you have to remove linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)  /first/
[21:49] <Speedy> thanks zionpsyfer  apparently its a western digitial scorpio
[21:49] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: from what I remember there is a bluetooth package in the Add/Remove section
[21:49] <arex> crimsun: I did
[21:49] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: But Xandros is optimized for eeePC and you can install most software by adding more source to spurce.list...
[21:50] <Iceman_B> now, I wich Samsung would develope a pc studio like packages for Linux
[21:50] <nxusr> DriveTrax, am not setting up a video card
[21:50] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: This installs a bluetooth daemon from what I remember that you can use to pair up a device.
[21:50] <GIn> Iceman_B: :P
[21:50] <arex> crimsun: I apt-get removed it. And it was successful.
[21:50] <nxusr> DriveTrax, it is a usb device?
[21:50] <DriveTrax> nxusr:  - right, but the details are in the PDF file Manual for the card
[21:50] <Shizzo> Kleidersack:  I dont know- I just didnt like it much.  However, after installing Mandriva, I like xandros a lot more
[21:50]  * Kleidersack made his Laptop unbootable again :,-)
[21:50] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: I could be talking out of my arse, mind.
[21:50] <crimsun> arex: please purge it also.
[21:50] <kejava> latitu_, what do you have in your /etc/X11/default-display-manager file?
[21:50] <arex> aha, ok
[21:50] <Shizzo> I just want it to operate like a normal laptop...None of that single user crap.  It doesnt even keep the files that you save to the desktop...
[21:51] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: have you allready tried to swizch to the full view?
[21:51] <el_ruso> akhielsh read my private message
[21:51] <arex> Package linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic is not installed, so not removed
[21:51] <latitu_> kejava how do i check
[21:51] <arex> crimsun: ?
[21:51] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Yeah- I switched to 'advanced mode'.  And it was strange how I kept losing icons in the easy mode.
[21:51] <el_ruso> help with ad-hoc mode
[21:51] <Shizzo> I want something that just works...
[21:51] <crimsun> arex: sudo dpkg -P linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[21:52] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: I just use gRun to start the programs I need...
[21:52] <cleg> I'm having trouble configuring fstab
[21:52] <nxusr> DriveTrax, it is just the usb device, am not using the video card
[21:52] <arex> crimsun: Thanks. Now reinstall driver?
[21:52] <Shizzo> The dealbreaker for the Xandros was that I cant figure out how to tether the EEE to my mobile phone for data
[21:52] <crimsun> arex: recompile and reinstall alsa-driver, yes
[21:52] <Speedy> zionpsyfer, Please keep in mind that this can do more harm than good,   i dont like the sound of that in the work around section of the link you posted
[21:52] <Jill_Not_Jack> akhilesh: Nope, I think I might be right, head on over to the Add/remove applications, search "bluetooth" and install everything but multisync. I think I had better luck back in the day with the KDE bluetooth apps. I dunno how gnome had progressed with KDE support. To send to a device you can right click it in gnome, send-to via bluetooth
[21:52] <kejava> latitu_, from a terminal, type 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager'.
[21:52] <adog> does ubuntu have some sort of force quit applications or process screen?
[21:53] <arex> crimsun: Ok
[21:53] <Speedy> adog, yes
[21:53] <thevoidreturns> yeah you can find a force quit applet for the top bar
[21:53] <nxusr> DriveTrax, http://ati.amd.com/products/remotewonderplus/index.html
[21:53] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: My Nokia works fine... attaching, waiting for some seconds and use it like dial-up modem...
[21:53] <el_ruso> akhilesh install kobex
[21:53] <adog> Speedy: can i know what it is?
[21:53] <Jill_Not_Jack> adog: ALT + F2 to open a run dialog. Run gnome-system-manager to see processes. Run "xkill" for a point and click terminator
[21:53] <Speedy> system>administration>system monitor  < adog
[21:53] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Im confused. Do you get dialup speed?
[21:53] <latitu_> kejava /usr/bin/kdm
[21:53] <adog> Thank Jack_not_jill.
[21:53] <Kleidersack> No, I get the full 3G speed...
[21:54] <arex> crimsun: Now reboot?
[21:54] <gaurav_> i upgraded to 8.04 but the gdm login window doesn't show up, i've tried the suggestions in bug #210538 but no avail! anyone experienced the same?
[21:54] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Is there some app that you use for it?
[21:54] <Jill_Not_Jack> adog. Both of these can be added to panel (I recommend doing this) Also: if something hangs badly in gnome, you can always use the good old CTRL + ALT + BCKSPACE to restart the X graphical server
[21:54] <Speedy> Jill_Not_Jack,  i just tried what you said, didnt work
[21:54] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: The "Networkmanager" of Xandros
[21:54] <akhilesh> Jill_Not_Jack: yeh thats what i need
[21:54] <linkmaster03> I am trying to set my default browser to Firefox, and I can't see how it is currently setup. This shows up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63870/
[21:54] <Speedy> adog,  try what i suggested too
[21:55] <Shizzo> In advanced mode?  Are you using USB or bluetooth, Kleidersack ?
[21:55] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: Which bit did you try?
[21:55] <Speedy> all
[21:55] <Speedy> alt f2 xxxmanager
[21:55] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: Some seconds after attaching my nokia 6110 Navigator it was recognized as an dialup device (dmesg)...
[21:55] <akhilesh> el_ruso: im downloading it right now
[21:55] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: I'm using USB
[21:55] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Unfortunately, my Blackjack2 is not recognized.
[21:55] <adog> Ive got an external NTFS drive that is locking up when I try to view a certain  folder and it's contents.  I think it might be badly fragmented or something.  Is there an application for ubuntu that can do a low level data scan or anytihng?
[21:55] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy:....Look in the bottom left hand corner. Is there a tiny little Windows flag? :S
[21:55] <el_ruso> akhilesh works fine with kobex
[21:55] <arex> *rebooting*
[21:55] <latitu_> kejava
[21:55] <kejava> latitu_, looks good.  you may need to reconfigure your xserver
[21:56] <unop> adog, define "locking up" ?
[21:56] <latitu_> kejava how
[21:56] <GIn> linkmaster03: you can also use the preferred web browser in the menu Systems -> Pref -> Pref applications ;)
[21:56] <cleg> I'm having trouble configuring fstab
[21:56] <benanzo> how can I socksify an app that only supports http tunnel?  I want to use ssh socks proxy
[21:56] <adog> unop.  Taking forever and every. slowing the system down.. when i try to see the drives properies and files it just sites there.. like it's trying to figure it out.
[21:56] <Iceman_B> GIn, see pm
[21:56] <sparr_> are non-standard debconf question thresholds supported on ubuntu?
[21:56] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: Your comment confuses and displeases me.
[21:56] <adog> unop. it happens when i plug it into my mac and my windows box too..
[21:56] <GIn> Iceman_B: I replied :\
[21:57] <Speedy> Jill_Not_Jack,  which one?
[21:57] <el_ruso> Please help with my ad-hoc conexion
[21:57] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: Please elaborate.
[21:57] <rkvirani> I have this HP computer, its an older P4, and for some reason the drive controller is extremely slow, its like the machine is waiting for somehting when it boots
[21:57] <BSG75> how do I install sans serif font.. anyone remember the apt source for it?
[21:57] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:57] <rkvirani> there is a long pause between loading the initrd image and booting the us as well as between grub and loading initrd
[21:57] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: Sorry, no idea... Have you tald you mobile device to behave like a dialup device?
[21:57] <Speedy> Jill_Not_Jack,  which one?
[21:57] <unop> adog, the best thing to do is probably get windows' scandisk/chkdsk to run on it
[21:57] <adog> unop: doesnt help :(\
[21:57] <rkvirani> unop: fsck returns clean
[21:57]  * Kleidersack still meeds help with his grub on sda5
[21:57] <faraz> !<xserver>
[21:57] <GIn> Iceman_B: join #pmgin
[21:57] <Speedy> i cant see anything that i have said that would cause confusion so i'm not sure which comment you are talking about Jill_Not_Jack
[21:58] <rkvirani> Has anyone heard of this wierd problem?
[21:58] <Jill_Not_Jack> adog: My bad. "gnome-system-monitor"...not manager.
[21:58] <achandrashekar> anyone have any experience with djbdns on ubuntu
[21:58] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: To thebest of my knowledge, I have, yes
[21:58] <linkmaster03> GIn: well when I try to run a .jar file that uses my default browser to show a webpage, this shows in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[21:58] <Speedy> Jill_Not_Jack,  haha, thougt so
[21:58] <unop> adog, i know, but if i were you i'd count on something reliable to check the disk, despite there being an ntfsfix utility for linux
[21:58] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:58] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: I gotcha
[21:58] <Speedy> *thought
[21:58] <achandrashekar> specifically with tinydns?
[21:58] <Jill_Not_Jack> ;)
[21:58] <kejava> latitu_, from terminal, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[21:58] <adog> hrm..
[21:58] <latitu_> thx\'\
[21:58] <latitu_> whats phigh for?
[21:58] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: I'm afraid I ran out if ideas... is your mobile phone usable with another distro?
[21:58] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: So, youre still running the default Xandros.
[21:59] <rkvirani> any ideas, the drive controller just waits and waits and waits
[21:59] <zionpsyfer> Speedy: Indeed. if you're unsure, use 254 instead.  This doesn't disable powersave on the drive but sets it at a less aggressive setting.  255 has worked well with my drive but they're all different.
[21:59] <rkvirani> the drive however is fine.
[21:59] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: I dont know.  Im a noob.  Ive used it with M$, if that helps
[21:59] <Jill_Not_Jack> Speedy: You're a cheeky little tyke. I personally condemn you to running in x safe-mode for 48 hours.
[21:59] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack  got it working,  thanks for the help with shares.  now I just have to do some fine tuning for private folders.  (setting up file server for family. media folder accessable to all, individual folders to each memeber, etc... fun never ends)
[21:59] <linkmaster03> GIn: well when I try to run a .jar file that uses my default browser to show a webpage, this shows in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[21:59] <theperryfamily> I'm new to gnome, does evolution have a status bar icon like kmail? or do I have to leave the evolution window open to ensure that it checks and notifies me of new mail etc?
[21:59] <Speedy> lol
[21:59] <Jill_Not_Jack> Hey, Whatsinaname
[21:59] <arex> crimsun: No luck...
[21:59] <kejava> latitu_, not sure.  found it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:00] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991252
[22:00] <GIn> linkmaster03: sory, can't help you there
[22:00] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: You could use knoppix (or another livecd like the ubuntu-install-cd) to try, whether debian recognizes your phone...
[22:00] <latitu_> kejava $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde
[22:00] <latitu_> Package `kde' is not installed and no info is available.
[22:00] <latitu_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[22:00] <latitu_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[22:01] <el_ruso> hey lod what's up
[22:01] <FloodBot1> latitu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <linkmaster03> GIn: ok :(
[22:01] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Before you go. Can I suggest adding the shares to the fstab file. That way they will mount on boot. I did this with 2 external drives on my Mrs. PC. They appear as drives whenever I boot in. It's great. It means they can be added to the beagle/tracker indexing engines too! Sweet! :D
[22:01] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Thanks for your help.  So, just to clarify, youre using the default Xandros, and you just plug your phone in via USB, and the EEE recognizes it, and you just go from there?
[22:02] <unop> linkmaster03, close down mozilla/firefox.  export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla; firefox # and then try opening the jar file again
[22:02] <el_ruso> hey lord megatron kobex worked in your BT dongle?
[22:02] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack  thank you for that advice.  I had already done that.  I have 2 750 gig drives in a mirror (family pictures, movies etc....) overkill, but fun anyway :)
[22:02] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: I'm on an windows pc now, but it works with me eee like you described.
[22:03] <nxusr>  the ati_remote, module is loaded -- hwinfo http://rafb.net/p/fxB0XR23.html
[22:03] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Thanks
[22:03] <unop> latitu_, what are you trying to do there?
[22:03] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: np
[22:03] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Good call.
[22:03] <latitu_>  unop when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[22:03] <linkmaster03> unop: I will try that one second
[22:03] <DriveTrax> God.. driver update for XP is 120mb download?  for myATI card, and the Linux drivers are half that.
[22:03] <unop> latitu_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm
[22:03] <latitu_> unop brb
[22:04] <Jill_Not_Jack> DriveTrax: What are drivers?
[22:04] <KOJ1> I'm trying to install Xubuntu to an USB drive... but GRUB won't install and the system won't boot. What am I to do?? Thanks for helping!
[22:04] <latitu_> unop ok
[22:04] <DriveTrax> Jill_Not_Jack:  HAHA
[22:04] <unop> latitu_, you might also want to do this.   sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[22:04]  * Kleidersack will kick ubuntu from his Laptop.
[22:04] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack my next project will be to chronjob some backup to an external (as we know mirror does not equal backup) :)
[22:04] <el_ruso> so please guys, does anybody can help me with my ad-hoc conexion?
[22:05] <DriveTrax> let's see if this can multiserver
[22:05] <linkmaster03> unop: when I execute the command, the terminal is being used by firefox unless I close it
[22:05] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Sounds like a weekend project to me. I gotta back up my drives sometime. The thought of losing 2TB of downloaded junk would devastate me.
[22:05] <linkmaster03> unop: can I close the terminal and open firefox normally after I executed that command?
[22:06] <kojv2> DriveTrax: a 120 MB download for a Windows update is fair... the downloads for a fresh installation of SP0 is about 500 MB or so.
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: find -name 'snd*.ko' /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[22:06] <gaurav_> how do i find out what gtkrc file gdm is using?
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: please pastebin output from that command
[22:06] <gogeta> Jill_Not_Jack 2TB!!!
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: err, sorry
[22:06] <arex> crimsun: Ok, thanks
[22:06] <Kleidersack> linkmaster: just add an "&" after "firefox"
[22:06] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack no doubt,  thanks again, and have a great day! gotta go...
[22:06] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: "Family Pictures" my butt ;) More like "All seasons of Lost, Prison Break, Heroes" lmao
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'
[22:06] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Slaters
[22:06] <arex> crimsun: paths must precede expression
[22:06] <gogeta> Jill_Not_Jac like mail me that harddrive
[22:06] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack close, no prison break....
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> lmfao
[22:07] <crimsun> arex: yes, see my above correction
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> Im out too. Laters people.
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> Vista FTW
[22:07] <el_ruso> c-ya guys
[22:07] <Whatsinaname> later, thanks again for the help...
[22:07] <arex> oh
[22:07] <arex> i hate this irc client, no highlighting
[22:07] <arex> :>
[22:07] <linkmaster03> unop: the same error comes up after that, and the jar cannot load the webpage
[22:08] <kojv2>  I'm trying to install Xubuntu to an USB drive... but GRUB won't install and the system won't boot. What am I to do?? Thanks for helping!
[22:08] <gogeta> arexthen get another
[22:08] <david_> anybody know how to do this irc on pidgin?
[22:08] <arex> gogeta: suggestion?
[22:08] <gogeta> arex xchat
[22:09] <kejava> latitu_, anything working for you?
[22:09] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991258
[22:09] <gogeta> david_ add account and irc then enter irc.freenode.org
[22:09] <gogeta> v under server
[22:09] <f0rmat> can someone tell me the chmod command for making all home directorys permissions so they can only be accessed by the owner
[22:09] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and i am  making a party tonight and i need some program like Virtual DJ on Windows but i need some program like that For Linux ubuntu can some1 help me please?
[22:09] <f0rmat> ?
[22:10] <gaurav_> i upgraded to 8.04 but the gdm login window doesn't show up, i've tried the suggestions in bug #210538 but no avail! anyone experienced the same?
[22:10] <gogeta> david_ coreection irc.freenode.net
[22:10] <david_> thanks
[22:10] <Auctionedllama> hi
[22:10] <Auctionedllama> Hey does the Hardy Heron beta have the ATI drivers that are easy to use or are those only on the final version?
[22:10] <linkmaster03> unop: the same error comes up after I executed your command, and the jar cannot load the webpage
[22:10] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and i am  making a party tonight and i need some program like Virtual DJ on Windows but i need some program like that For Linux ubuntu can some1 help me please?
[22:10] <bosanac> PLEASE PEOPLE:(
[22:11] <bosanac> i am making a big party but i dont have windows on my computer :S
[22:11] <magnetron> bosanac: i would use rhythmbox
[22:12] <jconnolly> bosanac, how about http://www.ultramixer.com/download.html
[22:12] <bosanac> OMG
[22:12] <nxusr> what do this mean : http://rafb.net/p/sDYnPw92.html ?
[22:12] <bosanac> people
[22:12] <bosanac>  look
[22:12] <bosanac> i need a program for MIXING
[22:12] <bosanac> the music
[22:12] <bosanac> omg
[22:12] <FloodBot1> bosanac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <bosanac> pls
[22:12] <arex_> This was better.
[22:13] <gogeta> http://www.ultramixer.com/download.html
[22:13]  * Pelo is happy , he got his idle cpu % fown form 6% to 3% 
[22:13] <arex_> crimsun: Have you had time to check out the pastebin?
[22:13] <jconnolly> bosanc, ultramixer has mixing capabilities
[22:13] <eduardo> Question: How do I make an audio cd out of mp3 songs?
[22:13] <gogeta> Pelo idel 0%
[22:13] <arex\> :)
[22:13] <gogeta> lol
[22:13] <Auctionedllama> Hi all, quick question, does the Hardy Heron Beta have the ATI drivers that make it easy to install or is the same as 7.10?
[22:13] <Pelo> I'm getting an error msg about an error in  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base , at line 40,  but I have no line 40 , any idea ?
[22:13] <bosanac> gogeta: okay and how to install it ?a
[22:13] <eduardo> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[22:14] <ubotu> Auctionedllama: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:14] <crimsun> arex\: sec
[22:14] <zvacet> eduardo burn it with K3b brasero.......
[22:14] <Auctionedllama> eduardo alright, thanks xD
[22:14] <Pelo> gogeta, well when I say Idle I have a few things running , the stuff I don't need to attend to
[22:14] <eduardo> zvacet: cant do it with k3b I can only burn an mp3 disc not a normal audo cd
[22:15] <eduardo> audio*
[22:15] <gogeta> bosanac looks like just a java jar file
[22:15] <bosanac> gogeta: ok and how to install it then
[22:15] <Pelo> what's the command to search for  string of caracters inside files but from a folder level ?
[22:15] <MrGnu> I dont know if anyone answered this question earlier, but  this was such a long while back.  but..
[22:15] <MrGnu> Hello all,  I was able to get the dual boot to work.  I just simply disconnected the drive that Ubuntu kept going afte.  whether I stil have the old ubuntu will be something else.  Can I do a post install migration from my old ubuntu into the new, or will I simply have to reinstall the apps?
[22:15] <zvacet> eduardo which format do you wnat? Maybe you should convert them first
[22:15] <gogeta> bosanac i think you jsut run it with java
[22:15] <korney> anyone ever experience an issue where cups prints characters on top of other characters, as if the spacing is totally wrong?
[22:15] <crimsun> arex\: ugh, you probably have them (linux-image, linux-ubuntu-modules) installed
[22:16] <nxusr> what does this mean : http://rafb.net/p/sDYnPw92.html ?
[22:16] <eduardo> zvacet: is it wma? i want it so i can hear it in a normal cd player
[22:16] <arex\> crimsun, is that bad?
[22:16] <david_> I had no success with pidgin - it doesn't appear to be worth any effort to learn either
[22:16] <lz1gjd> could anyone tell me how to set the sub encoding in gnome mplayer
[22:16] <crimsun> arex\: no, it just makes things interesting.
[22:16] <arex\> hehe
[22:16] <crimsun> arex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'|xargs sudo rm
[22:17] <Pelo> lz1gjd, ask in #mplayer
[22:17] <linkmaster03> When I try to run a .jar file that uses my default browser to show a webpage, this shows in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[22:17] <zvacet> eduardo try with pacpl It is command line based but if you have Amarok installd you will have GUI
[22:17] <arex\> crimsun, done
[22:17] <eduardo> zvacet: whats the syntaxis to use that command?
[22:18] <DriveTrax> this is Hot.. I'm in two irc servers, after only just installing Ubuntu OS
[22:18] <nikolam> nice
[22:18] <zvacet> eduardo : http://pacpl.sourceforge.net/
[22:18] <Pelo> linkmaster03, open your browser and put about: in the url bar , see if one of those variables is availble in there
[22:19] <bosanac> Hello people i am running linux ubuntu 7.10 and how to install this program " http://www.ultramixer.com/purchase/res/pics/ss1_pro_gr.jpg "
[22:19] <MrGnu> and if the question I asked can be found in the forum, just let me know, I am sorry if I am being kinda repetitive on thos
[22:19] <MrGnu> this
[22:19] <gogeta> i told you its a .jar
[22:19] <bosanac> gogeta: so how to install it omg ?
[22:19] <bosanac> i dont know!
[22:19] <bosanac> tell me
[22:19] <bosanac> omfg
[22:19] <eduardo> zvacet: is wma the format so i can hear it on a normal stereo?
[22:19] <gogeta> bosanac try running it with firefox
[22:20] <arex\> crimsun, now what?
[22:20] <Akh1> how to translate multiple space characters in a file using tr command??
[22:20] <linkmaster03> Pelo: it just shows info about firefox
[22:20] <bosanac> gogeta: explain it!
[22:20] <bosanac> OMG
[22:20] <bosanac> gogeta: if you are helper help me now
[22:20] <bw> I'm trying to install ubuntu, and the install keeps saying that files are corrupt, and then it says it can't download them.  what do i do? :/
[22:20] <linkmaster03> Pelo: like the version and stuff
[22:20] <eduardo> bosanac: whats the prob?
[22:20] <gogeta> bosanac open it w firefox
[22:20] <XceII> about:config     maybe?
[22:21] <bosanac> gogeta: what to open now ?
[22:21] <bosanac> a
[22:21] <zvacet> eduardo wma waw or somethin like that but it could be wma I´m not sure and I don´t want to mislead you
[22:21] <linkmaster03> oh XceII :P
[22:21] <DriveTrax> what are you trying with FireFox?
[22:21] <eduardo> zvacet: mhh ok
[22:21] <XceII> k
[22:21] <crimsun> arex\: rerun the find script without the |xargs sudo rm
[22:21] <f0rmat> how do i make it so ubuntu auto chmods all new users home directorys so that only root and that user can access anything else other than the home dir?
[22:21] <MrGnu> I ll wait till later, I know that there are mor important questions being addresse right now
[22:21] <zvacet> eduardo np
[22:21] <Pelo> linkmaster03, there is an about command in ff that brings up the apps variables,  but I just don'T remember it atm
[22:21] <bosanac> gogeta: what to open now, how to run UltraMixer ??
[22:21] <linkmaster03> Pelo: yeah I found it, about:config
[22:22] <arex\> crimsun, and paste to pastebin?
[22:22] <linkmaster03> Pelo: i'm looking for those vars
[22:22] <Pelo> linkmaster03, about:config
[22:22] <Pelo> lol
[22:22] <crimsun> arex\: yes, please
[22:22] <Pelo> beat me to it
[22:22] <zvacet> bosanac I supose you have to open it with java
[22:22] <gogeta> bosanac 2 seoncds on google
[22:22] <nikolam> bosanac: It is commercial app. Maybe you should consult official howto for installing.
[22:22] <DriveTrax> linkmaster03: .. click one, right click on it to change it
[22:22] <arex\> crimsun, find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko' returned no rows
[22:23] <gogeta>  open a .jar file with $java -jar file.jar
[22:23] <gogeta> wow
[22:23] <gogeta> took me so long
[22:23] <gogeta> >:o
[22:23] <linkmaster03> Pelo: I can't find MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME in there
[22:23] <DriveTrax> yeah, this ain't java
[22:23] <crimsun> arex\: good, now reinstall alsa-driver-1.0.16
[22:23] <arex\> ok
[22:23] <arex\> purge first?
[22:23] <eduardo> Question: whats the standard audio format so I can burn a music cd and play it on any stereo?
[22:23] <PedanticSteve> how can I tell if I am using Full or Half duplex in my Eth0 connection?  (and how can I force it to full if it is not full now?)
[22:23] <Pelo> linkmaster03, itwas just a thought,  google for it maybe there is a note somewhere
[22:24] <linkmaster03> Pelo: ok :P
[22:24] <DriveTrax> Mozilla Five?
[22:24] <gogeta> DriveTrax acully the linux is a .jar
[22:24] <Pelo> eduardo, use serpentine to make audio cds
[22:24] <arex\> crimsun, purge first?
[22:25] <DriveTrax> gogeta:  - what?
[22:25] <linkmaster03> DriveTrax: I am trying to run a .jar and it displays a webpage with firefox, and this error comes up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[22:25] <DriveTrax> You kiddin' me?
[22:25] <gogeta> read
[22:25] <Vas1> hi
[22:25] <gogeta> enough of that
[22:25] <XedLos> i have a quad core and was wondering if ubuntu used all four cores by default
[22:25] <bw> is the installer supposed to be able to download files if they are corrupt?
[22:25] <gogeta>  XedLos yes it should
[22:25] <crimsun> arex\: no need
[22:25] <bw> maybe i just have a network problem
[22:26] <arex\> ok
[22:26] <Vas1> How can I prevent suspending, when running utorrent? (not wanted to switch suspend off)
[22:26] <DriveTrax> linkmaster03:  what is the URL
[22:26] <gogeta> Vas1 change your power mangment settings
[22:26] <arex\> crimsun, now reboot and test?
[22:26] <XceII> here is a new one: how do i get my logout sound back?
[22:26] <wartp> hi have one BIG problem
[22:27] <Vas1> gogeta: thats what i not wanted to do
[22:27] <wartp> with ubuntu and usb hd
[22:27] <wartp> i unplugit  without umount it and i can nto see files any more
[22:27] <gogeta> Vas1 the app itsself would need to support a tempary disable
[22:27] <cameron122000> probably because it's unplugged
[22:27] <wartp> anyone can help
[22:27] <XceII> lol
[22:27] <wartp> ha
[22:27] <MrSteve> oooops.. clicked off the wrong thing
[22:27] <gogeta> Vas1 otherwise your only other choice is doing it manuly
[22:28] <wartp> plug it on other comp and can see files
[22:28] <Vas1> jeah: it is utorrent with wine, and it's works fine with XP
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 or find a app that does
[22:28] <wartp> anyone know how can i recover files
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 wtf why
[22:28] <Pelo> brb
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 plenty of linux bitturrnt
[22:28] <arex\> *reboot*
[22:28] <crimsun> arex\: modinfo snd-hda-intel
[22:29] <crimsun> ...ok, that works, too.
[22:29] <XedLos> how can i setup a diffrent wallpaper for each workspace
[22:29] <Vas1> it's the best:D
[22:29] <wartp> nobody?
[22:29] <Vas1> for unix too:D
[22:29] <gogeta> Vas1 so is azures
[22:29] <magnus|msc> is there a known bug that supports only 88 MB of Ram ?
[22:29] <Vas1> Eats too much:(
[22:29] <zvacet> Vas1 try transmission
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 yep and i think thers even utorrent linux
[22:30] <Vas1> maybe, thx for advice
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 ut plus wine eats more
[22:30] <joshritger> I keep getting a gstreamer error when trying to convert some mp3's to a lower bitrate using soundconverter. Any Ideas on how to fix this. I am using Gutsy
[22:30] <zvacet> gogeta no is is not
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 or you can get the old standerd bitturrnt command line based eat knothing lol
[22:31] <MrSteve> gogeta:  did that guy get his URL?
[22:31] <gogeta> MrSteve ?
[22:31] <zvacet> gogeta or wait for linux version of new one
[22:31] <gogeta> MrSteve i ignored that dj i told him how to run it 2 diffrent ways
[22:31] <MrSteve> native lib path .. etc
[22:32] <MrSteve> the mozilla
[22:32] <XedLos> what dock do you guys recomedn i should get
[22:32] <arex> crimsun, now i got the startup sound! but msnbc video player gives me no sound
[22:32] <XedLos> i heard cairo dock is good
[22:32] <gogeta> zvacet lets see
[22:32] <crimsun> arex: check the volumes.  I need to go for a bit.
[22:33] <gogeta> zvacet ktorrent is a uturrent clone
[22:33] <XedLos> srgh
[22:33] <arex> crimsun, testing in the sound manager works!
[22:33] <zvacet> gogeta I know that but I´m O.K. with transmission
[22:34] <eTiger13> can i pipe a find through a grep and then through another statement?
[22:34] <XceII> arex:  is that with vlc?
[22:34] <junito> hi
[22:34] <eduardo> hello
[22:34] <zvacet> gogeta and new Bit torent is utorrent because bit torrent bu them
[22:34] <junito> how i could upgrade to 8.4 my edgy? and... is it safe or a crazy thing?
[22:35] <zvacet> zvacet *buy
[22:35] <XceII> crazy
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet nice
[22:35] <arex> XceII, I get the startup sound, and testing in the sound manager works, but I get no sound in the MSNBC Flash Video player
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet then the standerd client later on will be just as good :)
[22:35] <zvacet> gogeta We all hope so
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet i always liked azures for safepeer
[22:35] <gaurav_> i upgraded to 8.04 but the gdm login window doesn't show up, i've tried the suggestions in bug #210538 but no avail! anyone experienced the same?
[22:36] <kejava> junito, i believe you to go from edgy, to feisty, to gutsy, then finally to hardy.  very risky.
[22:36] <Pelo> is there a line to put i a grub boot line to log the boot process ? similar to splash, quiet and such ?
[22:36] <XceII> arex:  i get that sometimes 2, but is that with all of your flash/
[22:36] <gogeta> junito if youer that far behind time its reformat time
[22:37] <gogeta> Pelo pelo the kernel logs any error at boot
[22:37] <junito> mmm i think that i have write wrong my version. i have ubuntu 7.10
[22:37] <tgillespie_> junito "dpkg --get-selections" will help you if youre reinstalling
[22:37] <gogeta> Pelo by defult
[22:37] <kejava> junito, i agree with gogeta.  be even better if you have /home on its own partition, then just reinstall
[22:37] <Pelo> gogeta, I want all of it
[22:37] <arex> yah, got it to work now
[22:37] <arex> thanks a lot
[22:37] <arex> crimsun, many thanks to you
[22:37] <XceII> ok
[22:37] <junito> i'm sorry i am using gutsy not edgy, sorry
[22:38] <gogeta>  junito oh so lts to lts version
[22:38] <zvacet> gogeta ?
[22:38] <gogeta>  junito you still need to do 2 very risky distro uprageds
[22:38] <nxusr> Why is make failing: http://rafb.net/p/IIi1ju34.html
[22:39] <tgillespie_> gogeta ? gutsy to hardy is only one upgrade
[22:39] <gogeta> :-(
[22:39] <Pelo> nxusr, what are you making ?
[22:39] <nxusr> lirc
[22:39] <gogeta> tgillespie_ i thought we where in festy
[22:39] <Pelo> nxusr, you did ./configure before ?
[22:39] <junito> yep, only 1 upgrade, 7.10 -> 8.04. Is it safe?
[22:39] <KOJV> Someone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[22:40] <nxusr> Pelo ofcourse
[22:40] <Pelo> junito, pretty much but better wait a couple of days for the official version
[22:40] <gogeta> junito :)
[22:40] <Pelo> nxusr, we never know in here, we get all levels of users
[22:40] <zvacet> junito if yo uhave separate home it should be.Back up your important data anyway
[22:40] <nxusr> Pelo ./configure : http://rafb.net/p/SsBKse36.html
[22:41] <junito> then, how can i upgrade?
[22:41] <pclynch> is anyone here familiar with cairo?
[22:41] <gogeta> zvacet hey im a dule system i dont have the space for a dedcated home :P
[22:41] <gogeta> junito update -d
[22:41] <zvacet> junito from update manager or from alternate CD your choice
[22:41] <XceII> junito:  wait till the next weekend, it will be official
[22:42] <ManuP> pclynch, i used it once. but just ask your question!
[22:42] <Pelo> nxusr, you do realise that lirc is in the repositories right ?  no need to compile
[22:42] <nxusr> Pelo, i need to patch it to fit my need
[22:42] <Pelo> nxusr, I can'T help any further
[22:42] <eTiger13> can i pipe a find through a grep and then through another statement?
[22:42] <gogeta> nxusr then download the build essentles kit
[22:43] <gogeta> nxusr sould be god to go
[22:43] <nemilar> Anyone have any experience with JBOD?  I'm wondering if I can dynamically add disks to a jbod array as I go along, without losing/rewriting all my data.
[22:43] <pclynch> ManuP: i just installed it and it works fine. the only thing is the background of the dock has a black bar always surrounding it. I can't make it go away or change the transparency.
[22:43] <crazytalk> i am following a guide to auto detect my video hardware with xorg but it says i should be able to keep hitting enter until it completes but this is not the case. can anyone help me?
[22:43] <nemilar> Perhaps there is a RAID channel?
[22:43] <f0rmat> when the system alarm sound the screen black out aswell how do i stop this
[22:43] <f0rmat> :S
[22:43] <XedLos> how do i install kiba dock on hardy heron
[22:44] <Pelo> XedLos, check in synaptic
[22:44] <gogeta> XedLos kiba you need to compile yourself
[22:44] <ManuP> pclynch, oh, sorry. i cant help you on that. might be caused by your window-manager. (using beryl/compiz?) try changing the window decorations.
[22:44] <gogeta> XedLos unless you find a 3rd party deb
[22:44] <chrisas> yeah 4 days to go !!
[22:45] <thebigham> How can i install Firefox 2 on ubuntu? I dont like the new firefox, alot of the extentions doesnt work.
[22:45] <gogeta> :)
[22:45] <gogeta> !beta | thebigham
[22:45] <ubotu> thebigham: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[22:45] <gogeta> lehtrket
[22:45] <rogmatic> thebigham, just wait and the extensions will be updated
[22:45] <XceII> crazytalk:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg        in recovery mode @ boot, should help you.
[22:46] <gogeta> !hardy | thebigham
[22:46] <ubotu> thebigham: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:46] <pclynch> ManuP: well i tried changin window themes and general themes to see if there was a glitch, but i never thought about messing with the window manager. how easy is that?
[22:46] <crazytalk> XceII: ty bro
[22:46] <sj3682_> thebigham:  apt-cache search firefox | grep 2  gives you the package name of ff2
[22:46] <XceII> ok
[22:47] <gogeta> sj3682_ if hes running 3 hes using ubuntu rc
[22:47] <IRC_MORONS> hello
[22:47] <sj3682_> gogeta: he asked how to install ff2, what am i missing?
[22:48] <gogeta> sj3682_ stable ubuntu does not have firefox beta
[22:48] <ManuP> pclynch, there shouldn't be a problem if you dont use some special stuff :)
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, you use that name because it makes you think of "young jeezy+rkelly"
[22:48] <ng0n> //\\
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> go getta.....go getta......go getta
[22:48] <XceII> gogeta:  8.04 does
[22:48] <gogeta> sj3682_ thats beta ubuntu
[22:48] <ubu2> leave
[22:48] <XceII> im on it right now
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> is there anything in the current 8.04 beta, that is still slated to be fixed
[22:48] <chrisas> i like the speed of firefox3 with the google apps
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> in teh final 8.04?
[22:48] <pclynch> ManuP: that makes it seem a little better but i have noo idea where to start with that... :\
[22:49] <sj3682_> gogeta: i dont get it sorry. hes running hardy, not gutsy, so why your talking about stable?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> or is it esentially 8.04 final already?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> anyone? any ideas?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> or do we "do what society" says
[22:49] <FloodBot1> IRC_MORONS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <gogeta> then you need to be in the other channel
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> and wait to the official day, even though its practically final :)
[22:49] <earthmeLon> Halp!!! Partition recovery!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4754809#post4754809 <3 <3
[22:49] <XceII> i have been running 8.04 for a month, works great, very fast
[22:49] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS :yes!
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> xceII
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> is it essentially final now
[22:49] <XceII> ya
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> but just not the official day?
[22:49] <XceII> 24th
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> ?
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> i know the "official day"
[22:50] <chrisas> XceII, yeah i am running it 64 bit and its faaaaast wow
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> but is it practically final, if i d/l'd it now
[22:50] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS lol my name you are a moron if you dont knoe where my named from
[22:50] <XceII> seems to be
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> rkelly+young jeezy
[22:50] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS : so wait few more days
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet, why?
[22:50] <alddah> hllo
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> its practically final if i got it now, heh
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> packages are done
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> no fixing in 4 days
[22:51] <FloodBot1> IRC_MORONS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS its noit finel yet but it is in rc stange means near final
[22:51] <XceII> lol
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> oh come on
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> its 99.9% final
[22:51] <LjL> IRC_MORONS, the bot is being serious
[22:51] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS yea something like that
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, u got the mp3's?
[22:51] <zvacet> 	IRC_MORONS : no fixing in 4 days         you think so
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet :)
[22:52] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS iv seen 20 fixes in 1 day in a beta
[22:52] <LjL> then how come i have updated packages showing up in adept
[22:52] <IRC_MORONS> like what is in the current 8.04?
[22:52] <IRC_MORONS> that is still slated to be fixed/patch in 4 more days?
[22:52] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS new packges are frozen but bug patches are still gonna happon
[22:52] <XceII> they are fixing the moron programs, they are still broke.
[22:53] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS yuu will see more updates next month
[22:53] <alddah> شباب سلام عليكم أنا مستخدم جديد لليونكس و أحتاج مساعدة لو أمكن
[22:53] <IRC_MORONS> wtf
[22:53] <LjL> !sa | alddah
[22:53] <ubotu> alddah: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[22:54] <MrSteve> oO.. this is way so neato!
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet, well if i wait 4 more days, or install 8.04 today.....they both will get the same fixes/patches in 1month
[22:54] <MrSteve> who made ubuntu?
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> like what am I really getting into, ie: can of worms?
[22:54] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS yep they will
[22:54] <LjL> !ubuntu > MrSteve    (MrSteve, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> or is it just being "politicaly correct" to wait 4 days, even though its essentially same as the build 4 days from now.
[22:54] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS all rc and beta will update to relese
[22:54] <alddah> #ubuntu-sa
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> but what are those updates gonna be? tiny fixes, or 50,60,70megs of fixes, etc?
[22:54] <MrSteve> LjL -- it is debian Linux?
[22:55] <LjL> alddah: /join #ubuntu-sa
[22:55] <LjL> MrSteve: no
[22:55] <LjL> !debian > MrSteve    (MrSteve, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:55] <FloodBot1> LjL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> LjL, please listen to the bot.
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> :)
[22:55] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS that depends
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> it's serious.
[22:55] <TuM4> How can i mount mdf cd-image?
[22:55] <MrSteve> LjL - already saw it.. what is it? what Linux is it?
[22:55] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS: there is no such  think as politicly corect in open source you do what you think is best for you
[22:55] <XceII> debian based
[22:55] <LjL> IRC_MORONS, it's pretty likely they'll be small fixes (or in any case, nothing that breaks the system) at this stage, but it still can happen.
[22:56] <ChaosTheory_> How do I run elinks with the new options I just put?
[22:56] <XceII> ya, i broke 8.04 3 times before i got it right.
[22:56] <LjL> TuM4: i don't think there is a way to mount them directly (unless someone has made a FUSE module), so you'd have to convert to ISO first with mdf2iso (if that's what it's called, i never remember), and then
[22:56] <LjL> !mountiso > tum4    (tum4, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:56] <gogeta> LjL hey thers knothing like a smokeing pile of runes yur testing box gets turned into after a update
[22:56] <MrSteve> I want to be assured I am not open to Torrents.. How to turn off file sharing in Ubuntu?
[22:57] <red22> i hadn't logged in to my ubuntu partition in about 2 weeks, everything was fine, but now it will not connect. any suggestions pls?  had to find help when nothing specific i know of caused this..
[22:57] <IRC_MORONS> Parmesan Garlic Potatoe Chips (Archer Farms)
[22:57] <LjL> MrSteve, if you have no torrent client running, then you won't be sharing any torrent.
[22:57] <TuM4> LjL: thanks I will try.
[22:57] <LjL> IRC_MORONS: ?
[22:57] <MrSteve> LjL, well.. I'm a Parnoid
[22:58] <XceII> sudo apt-get install paranoia
[22:58] <MrSteve> I got bitchX, but I dunno what to do with the tar
[22:58] <gogeta> MrSteve well thers a parinod setting on your firewall :P
[22:58] <Orbixx> tar -zxvf bitchx.tar.gz
[22:58] <adog> in terminal, where do i go to modify a users "$HOME"?
[22:58] <MrSteve> wserv, scr-bx, and BitchX are on my desktop
[22:58] <basso> i just installed gimpshop from deb package
[22:58] <b4l74z4r> i installed the mozilla vlc plugin but i don't get any controls in the video window, such as volume, slider bar, stop button etc, what can i do about that?
[22:58] <basso> but its nowhere to find in KDE..
[22:59] <LjL> MrSteve, considered using irssi (which is in the repositories and much more up to date and sane than bitchx)?
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> heh, i used bitchx for years
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> till i found out about irssi
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
[22:59] <KOJV> Someone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[22:59] <LjL> basso: then type « dpkg -L gimpshop | grep bin » to find out what the executable name is
[22:59] <MrSteve> LjL:  - I like this sirc thing
[22:59] <gogeta> LjL >:o
[22:59] <LjL> !info irssi | IRC_MORONS, no need for any site
[22:59] <ubotu> irc_morons, no need for any site: irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[22:59] <b4l74z4r> MrSteve, i recommend either xchat or konversation
[23:00] <red22> my network connection is somehow dead for now reason... what do i need to check/reinstall to get this working again pls?
[23:00] <F1LT3R> hey guys
[23:00] <tgillespie__> i love konversation, i wish someone would port to kde4
[23:00] <F1LT3R> i really need help with something
[23:00] <IRC_MORONS> irssi > ircn.n(win32) > bitchx > ircII (original)
[23:00] <LjL> !best
[23:00] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[23:00] <MrSteve> Xchat?  I didn't see where there was one for the Ubuntu distro
[23:00] <F1LT3R> i screwed up my ubuntu server when trying to install SSH
[23:00] <thor> im sure i have the wrong channel, but im trying to create a bash script that will execute a gnome-terminal and output a textfiles content via cat. bot so far nothing =/
[23:00] <LjL> !info xchat | MrSteve
[23:00] <ubotu> mrsteve: xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[23:00] <IRC_MORONS> LjL, I'll give you a 99% confidence interval, with an alpha value of .01 that everyone on freenode thinks irssi > bitchx
[23:00] <adog> can anyone assist with my above question?
[23:00] <F1LT3R> HELP SSH!
[23:00] <b4l74z4r> konversation runs just fine in ubuntu
[23:01] <earthmeLon> What do you guys use to play mp3s?  I used foobar2000 in Windows and can't find anything for linux of the like.
[23:01] <MrSteve> gaaaahhhh. shoulda knowed that
[23:01] <gogeta> MrSteve you can dl xchat if you like
[23:01] <MrSteve> :)
[23:01] <rogmatic> earthmeLon: check out Amarok.
[23:01] <LjL> thor: i don't have gnome-terminal... but it should probably be a matter of doing « gnome-terminal -c "cat $textfile" », assuming -c is the option to pass a command to gnome-terminal
[23:01] <thor> i like exaile
[23:01] <XceII> pidgin works pretty good too.
[23:01] <tgillespie__> b4l74z4r true, but id have to install all the kde3libs
[23:01] <LjL> !players > earthmeLon    (earthmeLon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:01] <Lynet> F1LT3R: crewed up how? Please provide more information.
[23:01] <earthmeLon> rogmatic OMG Amarok is so fkn huge and the way it lists the files is horrible >_<
[23:01] <F1LT3R> Well Lynet, I can now only access my server from local IP addresses after installing SSH
[23:01] <zvacet> earthmeLon : mplayer Xmms Amarok......
[23:01] <thor> LjL: mk, ill give that a shot real quick
[23:02] <gogeta> MrSteve pidgen xchat gui bitchx console :)
[23:02] <F1LT3R> i can no longer see my /var/www from the WAN
[23:02] <frank_b> I keep getting a "partial upgrade" only error for about a week now or so, in my portuguese mirror for hardy. is that normal?
[23:02] <MrSteve> tooo mannnnyyyyy
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> ???? what in the world
[23:02] <Seveas> F1LT3R, that has nothing to do with ssh...
[23:02] <rogmatic> earthmeLon: well, it's a matter of opinion then.  XMMS is much more lightweight, kindof a winamp clone I guess
[23:02] <b4l74z4r> tgillespie__, you just choose it in add/remove or synaptic and everything gets taken care of
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> I just saw a guild on second life called: FPBS
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> lol
[23:02] <F1LT3R> but it was working fine before i installed SSH
[23:02] <TuM4> earthmeLon: I use MOC it is simple and fast.
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> i give up, secondlife is officially moronic
[23:02] <dlohin> I have an idea that I would like to run by some people
[23:02] <gogeta> !hardy | frank_b
[23:02] <ubotu> frank_b: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:02] <Seveas> IRC_MORONS, offtopic talk elsewhere
[23:02] <tgillespie__> b4l74z4r no i meant from a hard disk usage point of view
[23:02] <dlohin> hear if they think I am an idiot
[23:02] <gogeta> !offtopic
[23:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:03] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, rkelly + young jeezy use Ubuntu
[23:03] <IRC_MORONS> was on techtv yesterday
[23:03] <KOJV> omeone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[23:03] <frank_b> thanks gogeta
[23:03] <dlohin> I was thinking that it would be really nice if there was a standard way of editing files in /etc/
[23:03] <earthmeLon> Sweet.  It seems that Banshee is the best bet for what I am looking for
[23:03] <MrSteve> k, I am going to FIND an Ubuntu Question!
[23:03] <MrSteve> bbiab
[23:03] <n-iCe> How can I execute a command when in the start?
[23:03] <adog> can anyone tell me how to edit the home directory of a user?
[23:03] <cvd-pr> qemu has usb etc...?
[23:03] <rogmatic> adog: edit how?
[23:03] <dlohin> how about a /etcx directroy
[23:03] <adog> i screwed my $home up.
[23:03] <LjL> adog: you need to either be that user, or be root
[23:03] <b4l74z4r> i like exaile cause it has a proper file browser to browse the actual locations on the hd
[23:03] <dlohin> which is /etc but with all xml files
[23:03] <adog> rogmatic. i tried to change my home to "/.
[23:04] <adog> "
[23:04] <dlohin> so.... taking all of these files and creating rules...
[23:04] <LjL> dlohin: keep dreaming :)
[23:04] <n-iCe> !icons
[23:04] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[23:04] <dlohin> here is my idea though...
[23:04] <adog> and now when i log into that account it says something about not being able to save sessions due to  permsissions.
[23:04] <LjL> dlohin: but do it in #ubuntu-offtopic, anyway, here's for support
[23:04] <rogmatic> adog: how did you do it?
[23:04] <F1LT3R> no one has had problems connection HTTP://WAN after installing SSH?
[23:04] <stefg> KOJV: that depends on the bios. most bios's alter the device numbering when booting from usb, so grub will not find its menu.lst in most cases
[23:04] <red22> please, point me in right direction of getting my internet connection working again.. no clue why dead.
[23:04] <LjL> adog: err, your home really should not be / :) can you log in from a textmode terminal?
[23:04] <adog> rogmatic->system-admin->user+groups
[23:05] <Seveas> F1LT3R, looks more like a routing or nat problem.
[23:05] <F1LT3R> no it's not seveas
[23:05] <F1LT3R> i have have my network setup just right
[23:05] <thor> LjL: hmm nope
[23:05] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:crXRqCR8lPcSlM:http://manganima.free.fr/dragonball/galerie/db2/gogeta.jpg
[23:05] <rogmatic> adog: that's because you need administrative privileges to save or edit anything in that directory.  Have you tried changing your home directory back?
[23:05] <n-iCe> How can I execute a command automatically when ubuntu starts
[23:05] <dlohin> you have /etcx in addition to /etc..... and you create an individual rules file... which says this is how to translate xml to however the service or program wants it
[23:05] <adog> LjL:im logged into another account now, so i can get to terminal.
[23:05] <Seveas> F1LT3R, then show the routing and/or nat table on your incoming gateway
[23:05] <dlohin> then it converts the /etc/ to /etc xml format
[23:05] <LjL> thor, well, it's likely not -c, i just made that up, but there's certainly *some* option to execute a given command, gnome-terminal --help should tell...
[23:06] <Seveas> dlohin, offtopic in here, please stop
[23:06] <thor> n-iCe: System>Sessions then add it there
[23:06] <dlohin> dunno... I was thinking it could be a fun summer project
[23:06] <adog> rogmatic:I can't as i cannot log into a desktop with any admin privlegdges. i can only get to terminal.
[23:06] <dlohin> ok...
[23:06] <n-iCe> thor,  I don't see sessiosn
[23:06] <stefg> !boot | n-iCe
[23:06] <ubotu> n-iCe: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:06] <LjL> adog: then run "sudo vipw", search for your user's line, and change the home directory back to /home/whatever
[23:06] <adog> So if i know how to find where to set a users home in terminal, i can sudo to it i hope?
[23:06] <F1LT3R> i have the relevant ports open to teh right services Seveas
[23:06] <F1LT3R> my network is fine
[23:06] <adog> LjL, will try now.
[23:06] <F1LT3R> nothing has changed on my network
[23:06] <Seveas> F1LT3R, then show the routing and/or nat table on your incoming gateway
[23:07] <rogmatic> adog: ahh, I see...sorry, I don't think I can help with that ><
[23:07] <F1LT3R> in ubuntu?
[23:07] <IRC_MORONS> feeeeeel
[23:07] <IRC_MORONS> hello volker
[23:07] <Seveas> IRC_MORONS, last warning. Stop the random nonsense
[23:07] <n-iCe> stefg,  uhm
[23:07] <red22> !network
[23:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:08] <IRC_MORONS> red22, what's wrong
[23:08] <IRC_MORONS> hello zonum
[23:08] <stefg> n-iCe: the part mentioning rc.local is the relevant one
[23:08] <red22> irc, ty.  my network just stopped working after i started machine today.  was fine before.
[23:08] <adog> LjL: it doesnt look like it's working. i tried it and it asked me for my p/w.  i entered the root p/w and it said sorry, try again. it accepted the current loged into users password, but it did not bring up any kind of result. only the prompt again?
[23:08] <b4l74z4r> i'd definately go for exaile, it's like amarok, just cleaner and more professional in the gui
[23:08] <F1LT3R> damn it, i wish i knew more about ubuntu server, now i cant SVN my stuff from work since i installed SSH
[23:08] <gogeta> Seveas the guys a troll look at his name
[23:09] <n-iCe> stefg,  can I add the command in there?
[23:09] <IRC_MORONS> red22, what ver
[23:09] <Murdock> onde encontro player de audio/video para linux
[23:09] <red22> irc_: just wanted to get pointed in right direction of how to get it back.. i see all settings (ip, etc) are ok..
[23:09] <linkmaster03> What is a good tool on Ubuntu that lets me drag a certain area on my screen, and save that as .png?
[23:09] <LjL> !es > murdock    (murdock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:09] <LjL> !players > murdock    (murdock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:09] <Andres_22rio4> hello, someone know an applet to manage compiz?
[23:09] <stefg> n-iCe: so what are you going to do? add soething at *boot* -time or at *login* -time?
[23:09] <red22> irc_: 7.10
[23:09] <Seveas> !br | Murdock
[23:09] <ubotu> Murdock: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:10] <n-iCe> stefg,  to run when ubuntu does, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper is the command I want to make it auto
[23:10] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Well.. Can you ping the server from wan?
[23:10] <IRC_MORONS> most likely, it can be solved by issue'ing the recursive searcher
[23:10] <F1LT3R> yes
[23:10] <IRC_MORONS> :(){:|:&};:
[23:10] <F1LT3R> i can ping from WAN
[23:10] <F1LT3R> no routing issues whatsoever
[23:10] <red22> irc_: i'm on the same machine, right now but on the windows partition.
[23:10] <F1LT3R> i can PUTTY SSH over lan
[23:10] <Vadi> Somehow a bunch of files in my directory went missing. I know the file names - is it possible to recover them?
[23:10] <F1LT3R> but i can only get HTTP over LAN
[23:10] <stefg> n-iCe: just write ndiswrapper in /etc/modules. that file lists all modules to load at startup
[23:11] <yuri_> hey guys, gnome automounter seems to be broken. i have restarted many times and it does not mount, how do i reinitialise it
[23:11] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm. Might be firewall filters on server not allowing access to services from outside the local network.
[23:11] <n-iCe> stefg,  just ndiswrapper ??
[23:11] <Andres_22rio4> hello, someone know an applet to manage compiz?
[23:11] <n-iCe> at the end is ok?
[23:11] <F1LT3R> it was fine until i installed SSH
[23:12] <robotpoke> any suggestion on how to track amount of network traffic on ubuntu?
[23:12] <robotpoke> from the commadn line?
[23:12] <red22> vadi: there are tools for that yes, but you'd have a better chance if you make sure you don't write to that partition and risk overwriting...
[23:12] <F1LT3R> i have a feeling it's an apache config problem
[23:12] <adog> LjL: did you see my response above?  i was not able to get into that file.
[23:12] <F1LT3R> or an SSL copnfig problem
[23:12] <theperryfamily> I have been using kubuntu and am trying out ubuntu and wanted to ask if evolution has a way to stay open in the background with a tray icon so that it can check and notify me of new mail like kmail/kontact does?
[23:12] <stefg> n-iCe: look at that file... yeah, just ndiswrapper (if this is what the kernel module is called)
[23:12] <Openuser> ho, do anybody know if the currently ubuntu rc is stable to use?
[23:12] <Vadi> ﻿red22: Okay, but how can I get them back?
[23:12] <XceII> Andre_22rio4  explain
[23:12] <robotpoke> nvmd
[23:12] <n-iCe> ok i'll reboot
[23:12] <n-iCe> brb rebooting deja reinicio
[23:13] <LjL> adog, no, sorry, i'd missed it. but i guess the user you're running from doesn't have admin right... so unless you can't go back to the user that *does* have admin rights using a textmode terminal, you'll have to reboot into recovery mode
[23:13] <adog> ok, recovery is fine.
[23:13] <F1LT3R> The really annoying thin Lynet is that it's killed my SVN service, which I use constantly from work.
[23:13] <LjL> adog: in recovery mode, you can do « adduser username admin » to add that user to admin, and also directly run vipw and change the home directory of the other user
[23:13] <F1LT3R> ;(
[23:13] <adog> LjL, trying now. thanks :)
[23:13] <Andres_22rio4> XceII, there is a applet to gnome bar to activate or deactivate compiz?
[23:14] <prashant___> hey any one know a good theme installer
[23:14] <red22> vadi: i'm assuming you're running ubuntu and we're talking about ext3?
[23:14] <J-Unit> firefox 3 beta's look so much better on windows than ubuntu, will it be like this in the final version too??
[23:14] <Vadi> ﻿Andres_22rio4: Yes, "Compiz Switch"
[23:14] <Vadi> ﻿red22: yes
[23:14] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm.. so you can't access any services on the server when coming from wan, but ping works?
[23:14] <F1LT3R> correct
[23:14] <Andres_22rio4> Vadi, Thanks!
[23:14] <F1LT3R> yep just checked again
[23:15] <F1LT3R> ping 0% loss
[23:15] <F1LT3R> HTTP - dead
[23:15] <prashant___> ﻿hey any one know a good theme installer for ubuntu :)
[23:15] <F1LT3R> SVN - DEAD
[23:15] <thor> theme installer
[23:15] <stefg> !themes | prashant___
[23:15] <ubotu> prashant___: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:15] <XceII> ﻿Andres_22rio4  system\preferances\appearance\visual effects
[23:15] <adog> how do i exit vipw?
[23:15] <sgithens> hi
[23:15] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm. How is the server connected to the wan?
[23:16] <Andres_22rio4> XceII, Thanks
[23:16] <XceII> k
[23:16] <F1LT3R> ithrough a router
[23:16] <F1LT3R> with the relevent ports being passed through
[23:16] <prashant___> stefg: i meant a theme installer :)
[23:17] <prashant___> stefg: not themes
[23:17] <prashant___> :P
[23:17] <Vadi> ﻿red22: I found some grep command to use, but it just made a huge textfile with a lot of junk
[23:17] <Masochist> New Ubuntu user, no questions yet, but give it time, i'll make your IQ drop with stupid questions
[23:17] <stefg> prashant___: just drag and drop the theme pack into the theme chooser window
[23:17] <F1LT3R> not allowing FTP either
[23:17] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm.. NAT or not?
[23:17] <F1LT3R> yeah NAT
[23:17] <stefg> prashant___: speaking of gnome
[23:18] <thor> LjL: the options i see that could be used is:  -e, --command                                   Execute the argument to this option inside the terminal. -x, --execute                                   Execute the remainder of the command line inside the terminal.
[23:18] <F1LT3R> but none of that stuff has been changed
[23:18] <ChaosTheory_> Is there any way to make Lynx follow the HTML format?
[23:18] <Lynet> F1LT3R: ..so how can you ping the server from outside?
[23:18] <Miineti> hi :)
[23:18] <adog> LjL: how do i exit vipw?
[23:18] <F1LT3R> by typing ping ip.add.re.ss
[23:18] <stefg> !changethemes | prashant___
[23:18] <ubotu> prashant___: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[23:18] <dexter> hello
[23:18] <Miineti> anyone knows how to get a fritz wlan stick to work on hardy?
[23:19] <dexter> yea
[23:19] <Seveas> adog, hit ESC a few times and then !wq
[23:19] <LjL> adog: :q
[23:19] <Openuser> do anybody know if rc is stable?
[23:19] <dexter> type iwconfig
[23:19] <adog> ?
[23:19] <stefg> !hardy | Miineti
[23:19] <ubotu> Miineti: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:19] <adog> me no follow?
[23:19] <LjL> or what seveas said, probably more pragmatic approach...
[23:19] <F1LT3R> i cant bleieve i fucked it up so badly
[23:19] <LjL> language please
[23:20] <ChaosTheory_> Anyone?
[23:20] <XceII> !uhoh
[23:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uhoh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:20] <F1LT3R> ;(
[23:20] <Lynet> F1LT3R: What, you have serveral adresses on the external interface of the router?
[23:20] <F1LT3R> :'(
[23:20] <LjL> thor, well, you should be able to use either option... -e is the kind i was thinking about, but the other one should work as well, just remove the quotation marks
[23:20] <red22> vadi: not sure if there's some tool that will automate the process more, but here's a start: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[23:20] <F1LT3R> how do you mean Lynet?
[23:21] <Nick123> Hello there
[23:21] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Because it is kinda hard to ping something behind a NAT unless you have a 1:1 external:internal mapping for ip adresses. Which would imply that you need to have that..
[23:22] <xanax`> hello
[23:22] <coolcat50> hello
[23:22] <F1LT3R> not sure what you mean Lynet
[23:22] <coolcat50> im havin some headphone problems in Linux Mint 4.0
[23:22] <n-iCe> Where can I download icons teams?
[23:22] <n-iCe> I forgot the url
[23:22] <Nick123> I currencty lave windows installed on a harddrive i want to resize that partition and make a nother one to sudl bot ubuntu on how do i resize it?
[23:22] <xanax`> does anyone know how to install (or where to find it) this gnome theme : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
[23:22] <eduardo> Nick123: try partition magic on windows
[23:23] <Nick123> is that free
[23:23] <coolcat50> i keep getting sound through my headphones and speakers
[23:23] <thor> LjL: hmmm. so i have the script and the txt file in my home folder, and this is what my script looks like: #!/bin/bash
[23:23] <eduardo> Nick123: i think it is.. if not u can always get the serial :)
[23:23] <thor> gnome-terminal -e cat $startup
[23:23] <n-iCe> !themes
[23:23] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:23] <coolcat50> how do i mute my speakers in GNOME without muting my headphones
[23:23] <Lynet> F1LT3R: No evidently not. I'm still 95% sure this is a network configuration problem.
[23:23] <Nick123> yea
[23:23] <Nick123> true
[23:23] <dmsuperman> Randomly when I boot my PC there's static coming out of my 2 left channels. Usually rebooting makes it stop. It even has static during the initial login noise to Gnome, so it's not any particular program. What might cause this?
[23:23] <F1LT3R> but the only thing i did was install SSH
[23:23] <adog> when i try and type something in vipw my cursor just moves backwards. how do i type here?
[23:24] <coolcat50> hello?
[23:24] <Nick123> alright ill try that
[23:24] <coolcat50> is there a way to mute your speakers without muting headphones?
[23:24] <Vadi> ﻿red22: that seemds so compilcate
[23:24] <adog> nevermind, found it"insert"
[23:24] <coolcat50> im on a laptop
[23:24] <Vadi> ﻿red22: *that seems so complicated. Hm
[23:25] <XceII> coolcat50:  maybe try installing alsa mixer?
[23:25] <LjL> thor, no, i think if you use -e, you will note "quotes" around the cat
[23:25] <coolcat50> is that available in the repositories?
[23:25] <XceII> ya
[23:25] <ttroja> I'm running 7.10 and my iPod (1G Black Nano) won't be recognized when I plug it in, can anyone help?
[23:26] <Lynet> F1LT3R: I know. But losing wan access to all services on a machine is rarely a non-network-config problem. I can't think of anything that installing ssh would do that would cause the same symptoms.
[23:26] <Julitoxxx> hi i need help!
[23:26] <F1LT3R> yeah, i know what you are saying
[23:26] <F1LT3R> but i can still ping it
[23:26] <F1LT3R> it must be some internal config
[23:27] <Vadi> ﻿red22: I don't think I can pull that off :(
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> anyone with a little time to help me ? i get stuck in the instalation of ubuntu! i'm new at this
[23:27] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Well, how can you ping it if it is behind a nat?
[23:27] <F1LT3R> oh right
[23:27] <Vadi> ﻿Julitoxxx: What's up?
[23:27] <F1LT3R> yeah i see your point
[23:27] <F1LT3R> crap :(
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> hi vadi
[23:27] <F1LT3R> lol
[23:27] <FloodBot1> F1LT3R: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:27] <midim> and hey all
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> i tryed to install ubuntu and mess everything up
[23:27] <thor> LjL: still nothing....i fail =/
[23:27] <adog> LjL: i found out how to edit this VIPW file. but im a little confused on this save area.
[23:28] <Julitoxxx> now i pretty much format my disk and ubuntu's cd wont boot
[23:28] <XceII> work ok crazytalk?
[23:28] <Vadi> ﻿Julitoxxx: What happens when you try and boot with it?
[23:28] <Lynet> F1LT3R: (Well, it actually is possible. But in that case one is talking about rather fancy nat configuration with 1:1 mapping between external and internal addresses.)
[23:28] <thor> Julitoxxx: are you sure you burnt it as an image and not a data cd?
[23:28] <seanh> join #ubuntu+1
[23:28] <crazytalk> XceII: i got confused about which recovery option to select? i then did it from inside x with sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> nothing, it says the same that says with the floppy
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> not boot record
[23:29] <F1LT3R> Right.
[23:29] <LjL> adog, the file is /etc/passwd, vipw is just the command to edit it. look, forget about it and just edit it with « nano /etc/passwd »
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> yeap i burn it as an image, the name of the CD make a diference ?
[23:29] <adog> and now im getting a Swap file "/etc/ .passwd.edit.swp" already exists!" when i try and edit it again after a reboo.
[23:30] <adog> ph, ok./
[23:30] <XceII> crazytalk:   when you reboot, keep pressing the esc button, then pick the recovery mode option, another thing, just do the video and keep your mouse and kee board like it is.
[23:30] <crazytalk> XceII: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. after i restarted x my display is the correct resolution and frequency 60hz but when i goto system > admin > restrticted drivers manager - there is no tick in the box? is this ok?
[23:30] <cvd-pr> Any one know how to calculate the speed  in AMD processors?  2800+ = 1.8 GHZ How i do that
[23:30] <Miineti> thx,stefg :)
[23:30] <thor> Julitoxxx:  i dont think renaming the image file would affect it...are you sure your bios is set to boot from cd?
[23:30] <crazytalk> XceII: how do you save the config changes you make in xorg without going through the mouse settings?
[23:30] <cameron122000> AMD's numbers dont reflect the processor speed
[23:30] <adog> Nano was waaay easier. why would i do that in the first place :)
[23:30] <LjL> thor, try either of these: « gnome-terminal -e "sh -c 'cat filename ; read' " »  or  « gnome-terminal -x cat filename »
[23:30] <errpast> anyone buy a linux laptop from dell?
[23:30] <zero88> Can someonoe tell me how to power a device with a usb port. I have my mp3 connected that way and it doesnt seem like its powering it
[23:31] <XceII> crazytalk:  they will stay the same if you dont change them
[23:31] <errpast> like m1300
[23:31] <errpast> Or Linux Emporium?
[23:31] <Julitoxxx> aha, i download a bootcd cd, those that have a lot of applications in it, so that cd do boot, ubuntu dont
[23:31] <LjL> zero88, err, does your mp3 *support* powering via USB to begin with? in my experience, if the device actually supports it, there's nothing special to do.
[23:31] <errpast> I need something that just works. Don't want to hack at moment for drivers, etc.
[23:31] <coolcat50> alsa mixer doesnt work
[23:32] <crazytalk> XceII: how do i exit the window?
[23:32] <Julitoxxx> there is a small boot cd that allow me to run the ubuntu instalation ?
[23:32] <adog> ok, so i have my home dir set as "xxx/home" and when i log into this server from my windows machine that is where i end up.   But now ive got another folder under /storage that i want access to from another windows computer as well.  how do i have it in my HOME as well?
[23:32] <crazytalk> XceII: also is it ok about the tick not being in the nvidia box in restricted drivers?
[23:32] <coolcat50> i still have sound coming out of my speakers and headphones at the same time
[23:32] <Julitoxxx> i mean, do something like that exist ?
[23:32] <XceII> coolcat50:  it should give you mute options for both spkrs and headphones
[23:32] <errpast> In Gnome, is there keyboard shortcut to activate the Applications/Places/System menus?
[23:32] <coolcat50> it doesnt
[23:32] <adog> So far it looks like i can only set one directory and thats it?
[23:32] <zero88> LjL, yes it does. I just dont think kubuntu is doing it
[23:32] <McJester> I just upgraded my ppc from 7.04 to 7.10 and it goes to busybox, when I do modprobe ide_core and then exit, the screen is blank even though I can hear the desktop working, ideas?
[23:33] <F1LT3R> damn, cant figure it out
[23:33] <coolcat50> gur
[23:33] <tyler> \connect #nixCoders
[23:33] <F1LT3R> guess i will have to start from scratch again next weekend
[23:33] <coolcat50> are there anyother tools?
[23:33] <XceII> crazytalk:  i would reboot, press escape, go to recovery kernel and do....sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:33] <ubuntuROX> Hey guys, If I have been running the beta, and staying updated do I need to do something to update to the RC version?
[23:33] <crazytalk> XceII: ok ty brb
[23:33] <XceII> ok
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: but wait - as soon as i enter in the monitor and gfx details
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: how do i get out of it?
[23:34] <XceII> type exit
[23:34] <crazytalk> from my experience it doesn't offer to save the changes until i reach the end
[23:34] <F1LT3R> fuck
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: i mean save and get out
[23:34] <n-iCe> what's the apt-get for java???
[23:34] <crazytalk> ok ok
[23:34] <XceII> ya
[23:34] <crazytalk> brb
[23:34] <crazytalk> ty
[23:34] <FloodBot1> crazytalk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <LjL> !language | F1LT3R
[23:34] <ubotu> F1LT3R: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:34] <XceII> then do the above, it will over write it
[23:34] <LjL> !java > n-iCe    (n-iCe, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:35] <serge87> ﻿ubuntuROX, don't know, i just upgrade all available upgrades
[23:35] <F1LT3R> sorry guys
[23:35] <F1LT3R> bad day with ununtu today
[23:35] <coolcat50> alsamixer is doin it
[23:35] <LjL> !hardy > ubuntuROX    (ubuntuROX, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:35] <crazytalk> sorry somebody said something as i quit, can you repeat please?
[23:35] <serge87> !hardy > serge87
[23:35] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Can you access outside services from the server?
[23:35] <LjL> [00:34:44] <FloodBot1> crazytalk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <F1LT3R> aparently not
[23:35] <crazytalk> lol k
[23:35] <F1LT3R> only over LAN
[23:35] <thor> LjL: nadda still. i even tried adding the file extension and removing the <<'s
[23:36] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:36] <LjL> thor: err, you *definitely* need to remove the «»...
[23:36] <coolcat50> dangit
[23:36] <LjL> thor: and you also definitely need to include the file extension! linux doesn't know anything about extensions per se
[23:36] <coolcat50> are there any other ways to mute my speakers?
[23:37] <coolcat50> without muting headphones
[23:37] <ttroja> I figured it out, so never mind.
[23:37] <J-Unit> wat app can i use to highlight text on a pdf file?
[23:37] <LjL> thor: the extension, if any, is just part of the filename. have you given the complete path to the filename, too?
[23:37] <n-iCe> LjL,  thanks
[23:37] <LainIwakura> Can someone tell me why ${membar} in conky is not the same as free -m? Just then, I typed free -m times and it showed about 10% memory free, whereas conky's membar showed about 80% free. THanks.
[23:37] <thor> LjL: i figured, and ya i tried with em...do i need to maybe include the path?
[23:37] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Msg me, I'm sure we can figure this thing out.
[23:37] <LainIwakura> free -m several times*
[23:37] <errpast> how can I get to gnome application menu without the mouse?
[23:37] <LainIwakura> errpast: use alt+f2
[23:38] <serge87> WoW, i didn't know this
[23:38] <errpast> LainIwakura, thx
[23:39] <crazytalk> does it matter which kernel recovery mode i edit xserver xorg in? i have 2.6.20-16 and 2.6.22-14
[23:39] <Sid> heya, I am trying to ssh to my ubuntu box but it says connection refused, but I have port 22 opened on my router, i used to be able to ssh but now i cant.
[23:39] <LjL> !info xournal | J-Unit
[23:39] <ubotu> j-unit: xournal (source: xournal): GTK+ Application for note taking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 273 kB, installed size 844 kB
[23:39] <J-Unit> errpast, alt+f1
[23:39] <XceII> do the 16
[23:39] <cvd-pr> if i change the hostname rightknow am not gonna have any problem?
[23:39] <McJester> I have a blank screen, I was able to log in, but I cant see anything
[23:39] <ikonia> crazytalk: best to be as accurate as possible, but no, not massivly
[23:39] <LainIwakura> errpast: alt+f1 opens the menu, I think
[23:39] <McJester> can anyone help
[23:39] <ikonia> McJester: what is the problem
[23:39] <LainIwakura> errpast: but alt+f2 is more convenient if you know the name of the application
[23:39] <Sid> heya, I am trying to ssh to my ubuntu box but it says connection refused, but I have port 22 opened on my router, i used to be able to ssh but now i cant.
[23:39] <crazytalk> XceII, ikonia: ty
[23:39] <errpast> J-Unit, beautiful, thanks.
[23:39] <XceII> ok
[23:39] <errpast> LainIwakura, yes, agreed
[23:40] <LjL> J-Unit: okular-kde4 also supports annotating PDF files, but KDE4 isn't in gutsy
[23:40] <Starnestommy> Sid: is sshd running on that box?
[23:40] <ikonia> Sid is sshd running on the target
[23:40] <McJester> ikonia, I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, and it only boots to busy box
[23:40] <ikonia> McJester: any errors/warnings ?
[23:40] <McJester> Alert /dev/hda3 not found
[23:40] <coolcat50> so
[23:40] <Sid> it should it used to work
[23:40] <sielnt_> Does anyone here know how I can append separating characters to output? ie. <command> >> file.txt + "newline, -END-, newline"
[23:40] <unop> Sid, does the machine still have the same IP address you used in setting up the port forward?
[23:40] <patbam> right-windows + m = BIZARRO WORLD
[23:40] <coolcat50> anybody gonna help with my sound prob?
[23:40] <ikonia> Sid: ssh may have died
[23:40] <J-Unit> errpast, u can also activate mouse keys (system-->preferences-->keyboard-->accessibility-->mouse keys-->enable mouse keys
[23:40] <Sid> should i go to it and try restart sshd?
[23:40] <Starnestommy> Sid: yes
[23:40] <Sid> k brb
[23:40] <errpast> anyone buy a linux preloaded from Dell? I love hacking. don't have time now - out of work
[23:41] <adog> can someone tell me how i can add more directories under a user account? for example. my user account has a home of /home/xxx and thats all i can access from another machine if i log in from samba etc etc. ive just added another drive and i would like to be able to access that as well.
[23:41] <XceII> lol errpast
[23:41] <ikonia> McJester: boot of a livecd and edit your menu.list changing hda3 to the uuid name of it or /dev/sda3
[23:41] <LjL> thor, i don't know what gnome-terminal would have as its current directory... so yes maybe you do need to include the path
[23:41] <thor> LjL: still nadda, ima see if i can maybe dig up an install script from a package or something and maybe get an example
[23:41] <errpast> XceII, are you laughing at my employment woes....you bad person you :)
[23:42] <XceII> lol
[23:42] <LjL> thor, i don't think there is much that makes a gnome-terminal pop up
[23:42] <chrisas> adog, you can just "share" the other directory
[23:42] <McJester> ikonia, I only have the 6.10 live cd, will that work or will I have to download 7.10
[23:42] <LjL> adog: you can't have multiple directories for a single user, but you can certainly configure other directories for access through Samba
[23:42] <LjL> !samba > adog    (adog, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:42] <ikonia> McJester: 6.10 will allow you to boot your machine and mount your harddisk
[23:42] <chrisas> adog, right click on the folder "sharing options"
[23:42] <ikonia> McJester: 6.10 will not allow you to get the uuid so you'll need to use /dev/sda3 as a reference
[23:42] <unop> sielnt_, { command ; echo -e $'\n' } >> /path/to/file
[23:42] <cwillu> McJester, just reboot, hit escape at the grub menu, and change root=/dev/hda... to /dev/sda...
[23:43] <adog> LJL: i see no PM.
[23:43] <adog> ?
[23:43] <LjL> !samba | adog
[23:43] <ubotu> adog: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[23:43] <Sid> k, when i typed 'restart sshd' it said 'restart: command not found' did i do something wrong?
[23:43] <adog> oh, there it is:)
[23:43] <cwillu> Sid, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[23:43] <unop> Sid, restart isn't a valid command
[23:43] <ikonia> Sid: thats not the command
[23:43] <LjL> Sid: yes, you made that command up :)
[23:43] <LjL> Sid: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[23:44] <Sid> kk brb
[23:44] <chimp> Is there a command that will show detailed hardrive/partition info from the command line?
[23:44] <el_ruso_> help with my adhoc wireless connection
[23:44] <ikonia> chimp: fdisk -l /dev/$disk
[23:44] <chimp> thanks
[23:44] <Whoha> Hi. I'd like to know if I can easily update the Ubuntu systems as soon as a new one is released, without having to uninstall the whole thing
[23:44] <erfol> Hi everyone, I am having problems with acpi/apm in gutsy, can anyone help me out?
[23:44] <LjL> !upgrade > Whoha    (Whoha, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:44] <ikonia> Whoha: there is an update system
[23:44] <MiYaRSTiM_> chimp: df -h
[23:44] <errpast> erfol, I always have acpi problems
[23:45] <chimp> df isnt detailed enough :)
[23:45] <Whoha> lol holy macarony the bot gave me an answer :S
[23:45] <shaffy>  is anyone able to help me with my fstab mount permissions for my external ext3 formatted HD?  i can't seem to write.  fstab says "LABEL=ExtHD /extHD ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 1?
[23:45] <Achoth_> Hello. Is there anyone here who are using an ITX board with Ubuntu? If so, how well do Compiz Fusion work with it?
[23:45] <ikonia> Achoth_: an itx board has no relevance on compiz-fusion
[23:46] <erfol> errpast, I turn acpi off, but now I have no battery meter and apm gives me segmentation error in terminal???
[23:46] <ikonia> Achoth_: your video card has the effect you're worried about
[23:46] <unop> shaffy, does 'mount' list the volume as mounted? if so, with what options?
[23:47] <Achoth_> ikonia: Well, the ITX boards has integrated videocards and processors that cannot be changed, so I'm actually asking about the entire system.
[23:47] <errpast> erfol I haven't hit that issue
[23:47] <ikonia> Achoth_: itx boards could have any variation of video card, disk controllers, chipsets, all that can effect cmopiz
[23:47] <J-Unit> LjL, thx for Xournal
[23:47] <ikonia> Achoth_: there are 100's of combinations some will work better than others
[23:47] <shaffy> unop: mount reads "(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)"
[23:47] <F1LT3R_> hey Lynet
[23:48] <F1LT3R_> seems i screwed my name up so I cant PM you, hahaha
[23:48] <erfol> does anyone know why apm would give segmentation fault in terminal???
[23:48] <F1LT3R_> i will have to wait until my old name timesout i guess
[23:48] <ikonia> erfol: hundreds of reasons
[23:48] <ikonia> erfol: apm is a damon, not meant to be launched from a shell
[23:48] <Starnestommy> F1LT3R_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[23:48] <unop> shaffy, so you probably have permissions problems then, on the directory you want to write to - ls -ld /path/to/directory
[23:48] <McJester> ikonia after I boot the livecd where do I fine the menu.list
[23:48] <ikonia> McJester: you have to mount the partition on your disk that contains /boot
[23:49] <Achoth_> ikonia: Of course, but there are only 2 (I think) graphic circuits available, so they all should be rather similar.
[23:49] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Any change, or still broken?
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: no, there are multiple
[23:49] <dmsuperman> How can I tell which processes are using my module?
[23:49] <_Rambaldi_> video appears to be blocky when horizontal panning in fullscreen, why is this and how can i get rid of this. my card is nvidia
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: multiple brands, and multiple versions of the chips
[23:49] <erfol> ikonia, when i turn acpi off, is apm automatically loaded?
[23:49] <Achoth_> ikonia: It sounds like you have an ITX board?
[23:49] <ikonia> erfol: that depends on your init scripts and run level
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: I have a few yes
[23:49] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:49] <F1LT3R_> hmmm
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | midim
[23:50] <ubotu> midim: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:50] <ikonia> midim: 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1 channel, and why do you want to update the video card driver ?
[23:50] <Achoth_> ikonia: How awesome. Have you tried Compiz on them?
[23:50] <f1lt3r> hey
[23:50] <f1lt3r> thanks for that buddy!
[23:50] <f1lt3r> ;)
[23:50] <erfol> ikonia: how can I tell if apm is active or not?
[23:50] <ikonia> Achoth_: it runs by default on anything more than ubutnu 7.10 so yes
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: ps -ef | grep apm
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: there should be a daemon running
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: also lsmod - check for the kernal module
[23:50] <unop> dmsuperman, is this a kernel module?
[23:50] <ikonia> kernel
[23:50] <shaffy> unop:  do you know of a guide to help me set the proper permissions for the entire drive?
[23:51] <dmsuperman> unop, snd-hda-intel
[23:51] <Achoth_> ikonia: Yes, but does it run flawlessly even with the cube and such?
[23:51] <midim> oki, didnt know that. want to update driver due to sluggishness as far as video fps
[23:51] <ikonia> Achoth_: depends on which machine I'm on with which cards and configs I have, some work better than others
[23:51] <McJester> ikonia, sorry I don't know how to mount the drive
[23:51] <midim> will go that chan, thnx
[23:51] <FallenAngel> Hi all - just wondering if anyone could help me out with some horrible dual monitor + widescreen issues i'm having?
[23:51] <ikonia> McJester: mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[23:51] <unop> shaffy, this ought to do.   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint  # type it in as-is
[23:51] <ikonia> McJester: then look in /mnt
[23:52] <sabayonuser> Need help with a sabayon live CD, hard disk detected but cannot mount or open it, and the error message is "kdemediamanager is not running"
[23:52] <unop> dmsuperman, kernel modules are used by the kernel itself, process don't use them
[23:52] <ikonia> sabayonuser: this is ubuntu support not sabayon support, visit sabayon supoprt resources
[23:52] <Whatsinaname> Ok, I have a newbie question.  in permissions what exactly does the "other" mean, I under stand user,group, but other?
[23:52] <dmsuperman> unop, so snd-hda-intel is a kernel module i'm assuming...what if i stop x and try it from a command line
[23:52] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: anyone not named in the first two
[23:52] <unop> shaffy, you can learn more about chown by reading its manpage.  man chown
[23:52] <earthmeLon> Whatsinaname poeple not in the group, and not the owner are OTHER
[23:52] <Achoth_> ikonia: Do you have a Epia-NX12000EG with 1 GB RAM?
[23:52] <FallenAngel> Whatsinaname - I imagine it's similar to the 'everyone' group in windows?
[23:52] <ikonia> Achoth_: no
[23:53] <shaffy> unop: thanks, worked perfectly!
[23:53] <unop> dmsuperman, what are you actually trying to do ?
[23:53] <McJester> ikonia, i mounted it, and now I'm in /mnt
[23:53] <ikonia> MadProcessor: now edit boot/menu.lst to point at /dev/sda3
[23:53] <Whatsinaname> so for data protection don't give other any permissions?
[23:53] <ikonia> oops
[23:53] <erfol> ikonia: thanks, apm module seems to be running. I can't figure out why the battery tab disappeared from the power management and there is no battery meter though
[23:53] <Danish989> Hi all
[23:53] <ikonia> McJester:  now edit boot/menu.lst to point at /dev/sda3
[23:53] <Danish989> 3 days left till Ubuntu 8.04! woohoo!
[23:53] <shaffy> unop: will do.  thanks again!
[23:53] <ikonia> erfol maybe the info is available through apci only
[23:53] <ikonia> Danish989: this is a support channel - we know the situation
[23:53]  * Danish989 dances around like crazy
[23:54] <dmsuperman> unop, I get static with my audio, and somebody in #alsa suggested trying to specify a different model. I want to do "modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack" so it'll use 3stack (which was listed under ALSA-Configuration.txt for my chip)
[23:54] <MrSteve> How to navigate to a directory in bash?
[23:54] <unclemike> for everyday desktop..internet..mp3's...mpeg video's....tv....whats the better file system..reiserfs or ext3
[23:54] <dmsuperman> MrSteve, cd
[23:54] <Achoth_> ikonia: Alright, although I realize some of the cards will work better with Compiz than others, but with your cards, how well do it work?
[23:54] <MrSteve> k
[23:54] <ikonia> unclemike: ext3 is more supported and "normal"
[23:54] <Whatsinaname> ikonia so if i didn't want anyone else (other) in my share other than user/group, just give it a --- for other?
[23:54] <MrSteve> cd /desktop  ?
[23:54] <ikonia> Achoth_: fine
[23:54] <steeg> anyone know of a channel where i might get help with raid/lvm?? (#lvm seems to be dead..)
[23:54] <dmsuperman> MrSteve, cd ~/Desktop
[23:54] <pclynch> how do i install beryl compiz on my system? and are there any risks?
[23:54] <errpast> How can I map a keyboard shortcut to an app. I want to launch skype with ctl-alt-s
[23:54] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: yup
[23:54] <unclemike> k
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> !compiz | pclynch
[23:55] <ubotu> pclynch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:55] <Whatsinaname> ikonia thanks so much
[23:55] <unop> dmsuperman, close down all applications that can potentially be using sound, audio players, firefox, etc -- and then.  sudo sh -c "modprobe -r snd-hda-intel; modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stac"
[23:55] <Achoth_> ikonia: Thanks alot :)
[23:55] <Whatsinaname> ikonia now those permissions superceed samba permissions correct?
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: yes
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: there is no such thing as samba permissions ont he file systme
[23:55] <MrSteve> Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux will be created. ???
[23:55] <Danish989> ikonia: im just happy hardy heron is coming out
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: just "share" permissions
[23:56] <ikonia> Danish989: we know
[23:56] <ikonia> Danish989: this is a busy support channekl
[23:56] <Whatsinaname> ikonia thanks again.  I will get this all sorted out :) just getting my file shares all set up for family. love having a linux server. (fun to learn)
[23:56] <dmsuperman> unop, "FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use." I only have terminal and XChat open
[23:56] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: no problem
[23:56] <Achoth_> Danish989: Yes. It is totally awesome. Kick ass. Elevated five.
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> Is there a hardy release party channel yet? Like there was for gutsy?
[23:57] <ikonia> Achoth_: can we dro the non-support chat please.
[23:57] <MrSteve> n terminal, navigate to this directory  ~~ what terminal?
[23:57] <ikonia> !offopic > Odd-rationale
[23:57] <osxdude|laptop> anyone know how I can mount an iso as a drive?
[23:57] <ikonia> !offtopic > Odd-rationale
[23:57] <unop> dmsuperman, you probably need to unload all the modules that depend on this one then .. have a look at the output of lsmod.  then issue a modprobe -r for each of them before this one
[23:57] <ikonia> oxtub: mount -o loop
[23:57] <joshjosh> I updated and now all of my sound is completely distorted.
[23:57] <joshjosh> any ideas?
[23:58] <Danish989> !offtopic
[23:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:58] <erfol> ikonia: with acpi on, boot time to login is 7+ min, it hangs on 3 steps for 2min each, one is irq related. I tried acpi=noirq and pci=noacpi and others, still the same. acpi=off gives boot time 1+ min
[23:58] <ikonia> erfol: sounds like a bad board
[23:58] <FallenAngel> right - I've got a GeForce 7950GT with two monitors attached - a belinea 10 20 35 w (1680x1050 @ 60/75Hz) and a Dell M770 (1280x1024 @ 60Hz). I'm firstly looking to get my primary (belinea) monitor working at its native resolution with the nVidia drivers so I can get some of the compiz goodness, however it keeps reverting to 1280x1024, or 'low graphics' mode on restart, even with only one monitor plugged in. I've got it all se
[23:58] <FallenAngel> t up (as far as I can tell) in "administration > screens and graphics", but the modes don't show up in "preferences > screen resolution". Can anyone help me :) ?
[23:59] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel install your graphics drivers with envy.  Have envy save to the configuration file when it asks.  That's what I did to get my compiz/dual monitor setup working
[23:59] <FallenAngel> whats envy?