[00:00] <Starnestommy> !envy | earthmeLon and FallenAngel
[00:00] <ubotu> earthmeLon and FallenAngel: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:00] <dmsuperman> unop, There's 3 that use snd-hda-intel and each of those say that they're also in use
[00:00] <errpast> what's a good site for linux laptop compatibility
[00:00] <FallenAngel> ah! that ubotu is really useful :)
[00:00] <nugz1212> ladies and gentlemen i have problems to be fixed
[00:00] <dmsuperman> unop, 3 that are used by*
[00:00] <nugz1212> woops
[00:01] <earthmeLon> haha, yeah FallenAngel he's right, but I still highly suggest using envy :D
[00:01] <el_ruso> errpast what's exactly your question?
[00:01] <nugz1212> nvm
[00:01] <McJester> ikonia, it needs an application
[00:01] <sjovan> okay, i got a script ~/vcn with chmod +x. how can i make the scrit executable from any dir?
[00:01] <dmsuperman> unop, is there a way to reboot and have it not load snd-hda-intel so that I can do it that way before it gets locked?
[00:01] <errpast> where can I buy a laptop that will be compatible and reasonably priced, other than dell
[00:01] <erfol> ikonia: board works fine with windows though, it's just a 5 year old laptop
[00:01] <errpast> I don't want to hack. I want it to work
[00:01] <ikonia> McJester: what ?
[00:01] <gottatrieit> Hi. I just installed IRC chat and this is my use in several months.  I can't believe how easy it was! I just turned it on and here I am.
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> errpast: system76.com
[00:01] <ikonia> erfol: windows is not a linux kernel
[00:01] <McJester> ikonia, I'm still trying to edit the menu.lst
[00:01] <ikonia> McJester: use a text editor
[00:02] <el_ruso> errpast dell.com lol. have you tried with ebay?
[00:02] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, also, make sure you follow these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[00:02] <errpast> Odd-rationale, cool. thx
[00:02] <unop> dmsuperman, well, the only sane way is to do the same for those modules too (and so on if required) .. or put the options to the module in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base  and reboot
[00:02] <earthmeLon> Does anybody else feel like copy&paste in Ubuntu acts really weird?
[00:02] <errpast> el_ruso, Is Dell bad?
[00:02] <McJester> ikonia, I tried that too, there is not menu.lst in the boot folder
[00:02] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - cheers - you just preemted my next question
[00:03] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, do the Manual Method, btw
[00:03] <el_ruso> errpast i'm a dell's fan
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> earthmeLon: nope. just highlight and middle-click :)
[00:03] <FallenAngel> will do
[00:03] <crazytalk> when i input my correct video and monitor settings into xserver xorg in recovery and boot ubuntu it unchecks the box beside nvidia in system > prefs > restricted drivers. am i still taking full advantage of the card?
[00:03] <earthmeLon>     * ly repositories. These are part of the Ubuntu distribution system. This is the recommended method.
[00:03] <gottatrieit> In what manner, earthmeLon?  I just used it a little while ago and it seemed to work fine.
[00:03] <earthmeLon> Oooh! Thanks Odd-rationale and sorry #ubuntu for the spam :P
[00:03] <dmsuperman> unop, snd-hda-intel isn't listed anywhere in my alsa-base file
[00:04] <el_ruso> errpast actually dell computers come with ubuntu
[00:04] <dmsuperman> unop, can I add it? or is something odd going on?
[00:04] <errpast> el_ruso, thanks.
[00:04] <unop> dmsuperman, you can add it in, just make sure you follow the format of the other modules
[00:04] <errpast> I just misunderstood your lol.  Glad you recommend it
[00:05] <errpast> system76 looks good too
[00:05] <el_ruso> errpast you're welcome
[00:05] <gogeta> hears something i need for linux i cant find v92 modem on hold softwhere
[00:05] <el_ruso> yeah that's roght
[00:05] <dmsuperman> unop, alright, going to reboot.
[00:05] <pclynch> Avant-Window-Navigator is working and i don't know why :(
[00:05] <el_ruso> right
[00:05] <MrSteve> How to un>GZ a file?
[00:05] <pclynch> Avant-Window-Navigator isn't working and i don't know why :(
[00:06] <Orbixx> MrSteve: gunzip file.gz
[00:06] <gottatrieit> crazytalk; my nVidia driver works fine and I've reinstalled it, or rewritten xorg at least three times!
[00:06] <MrSteve> Orbixx:  How to -- on the desktop?
[00:06] <Orbixx> On the desktop it should just be a case of double clicking it..
[00:06] <MrSteve> Orbixx:  thanks
[00:07] <longmanzz> hi
[00:07] <MrGnu> Hi all, if I wanted to add KDE, to my new UBUNTU desktop, whats the easiest way to do this?
[00:07] <longmanzz> hi
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[00:07] <MrGnu> Thanks Odd
[00:07] <FallenAngel> MrGnu - i think theres some packages if you search in synaptic
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: or for just kde do kde-core
[00:07] <gogeta> MrGnu apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:07] <gottatrieit> ex-chat
[00:08] <gottatrieit> Oops! Sorry. Trying to log off.
[00:08] <MrGnu> I did the package route, problem with that is, it causes an issue with non functional splash image, so I read somewhere that you could do it through Synaptic, but i forgot how, I think Odd that your way gets me that easy set up
[00:09] <sakalli> hi all
[00:09] <FaceDead> ubuntu or mandriva, what's better?
[00:09] <MiYaRSTiM_> lol
[00:09] <n-iCe> does anybody knows a ipod manager, something similar to itunes but for ubuntu?
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> FaceDead: mandriva you have to pay for the full version. Ubuntu you get the best for free....
[00:09] <el_ruso> ubuntu for everyone
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> !ipod
[00:10] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[00:10] <MrGnu> Thanks all, doing it now, im gonna 'git' er done!
[00:10] <el_ruso> rythimbox
[00:10] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - ok, silly question, but doing a search in synaptic still shows nothing for envy, even after updating the package locations? do I have to use apt-get?
[00:11] <FaceDead> As set my video card to 1024x768.
[00:12] <MrGnu> One more question, KUBUNTU currently for Gutsy is 3.5 right?
[00:12] <MrGnu> Or have we finally gotten to go to 4?
[00:13] <longmanzz> hi
[00:13] <el_ruso> kde 4, i like it
[00:13] <winger> Hi
[00:13] <earthmeLon> Oh, my bad.  You have to install envy from outside FallenAngel: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:13] <MrGnu> Are we on KDE 4 now, or are we waitng for 4.1?
[00:13] <Signil> hi .. my acer orbicam isn't detected! pls help I dl the gspca drivers..
[00:13] <Determinist_> any idea where i could grab mysql-server-4.1 for gutsy?
[00:13] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, I clicked the Get Envy Legacy link and then opened it with the installer
[00:13] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - no worries - thanks
[00:13] <dmsuperman> unop, thanks :D
[00:14] <unop> dmsuperman, working?
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, probably
[00:14] <sakalli> trouble with realplayer and firefox 3 in 8.04. cant see the libtotem-complex-plugin.so plugin in the plugin folders, but when i do about:plugins it still seems to be there. if i do locate for it it finds it only in /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer and /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/ the sound is all gorgled when i play rm through the browser. if i play the same links through realplayer they are fine.
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, it only had static half the time, so i can't be sure
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, but sound is coming from all 5.1 channels and no static
[00:14] <longmanzz> hi
[00:14] <longmanzz> hi
[00:14] <unop> dmsuperman, hmm, well, let's hope it works and stays put this way then :)
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: kde 4.0.3 is the latest
[00:15] <dmsuperman> unop, yeah haha. Plus, the audio is playing at full volume, so that's a good sign
[00:15] <FaceDead> Where can I get the driver "via unichrome 9 pro ipg"
[00:15] <dmsuperman> unop, sound from exaile would be really quiet when it was doing it's weird thing
[00:15] <longmanzz> whois -ba
[00:15] <el_ruso> lol
[00:15] <longmanzz> yo
[00:15] <cesya> haloo
[00:16] <FallenAngel> earthmeLon - thats installing now *fingers crossed*
[00:16] <JohninLex> hello all
[00:16] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, before I installed envy, i reverted my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file back to it's originall (from my fresh install)
[00:16] <MrGnu> Hi John
[00:17] <JohninLex> hello MRGnu
[00:17] <MrGnu> Hi to all of those that I did not get a chance to say hi too
[00:17] <nsandiman> hi john
[00:17] <winger>  Yo, MrGnu
[00:17] <FallenAngel> good idea
[00:17] <el_ruso> hi
[00:17] <JohninLex> 1242 more people to say hello to I bee here the rest of the night lol
[00:18] <MrGnu> Ok, I ll be reloading, so if I vanish, its only temporary, checking on Kubuntu now
[00:18] <JohninLex> hello to you too nsandiman:
[00:18] <JohninLex> did see it until now
[00:19] <LainIwakura> Hello, free -m shows that I have 13 MB out of 1 GB free...but I am hardly running any application. Also, conky shows that the % of mem in use is only 30%. This, hwoever, corresponds to the amount of mem used in the -/+ buffers/cache row in "free -m". So what does the first row of "free -m" mean, and should I be concerned that only 13 MB are free? How do I free mem? Thanks.
[00:19] <earthmeLon> I just installed firefox3 but when I run firefox, It runs as 2.  How do I run firefox3?
[00:19] <el_ruso> m
[00:20] <cwillu> earthmeLon, under gutsy, firefox-3.0
[00:20] <jose> hay alguien que hable español
[00:20] <el_ruso> hola jose
[00:20] <jose> hola que tal
[00:20] <earthmeLon> cwillu, failed to execute firefox-3.0
[00:20] <el_ruso> en que te ayudo?
[00:20] <mooboo1> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" is in only 3 days!
[00:21] <mooboo1> Gentlemen, get ready your CD's! :D
[00:21] <jose> es mi primera vez que uso ubuntu
[00:21] <el_ruso> i love hardy
[00:21] <mooboo1> ya, its sweet
[00:21] <chetnick> does anybody know can i GET whole folder from ftp server with terminal ftp client?
[00:21] <el_ruso> bienvenido al cambio
[00:21] <el_ruso> de donde escribes?
[00:21] <JohninLex> I have created the perfect fix for all linux problems that people are facing typy this in a terminal            sudo cd -c format -c
[00:21] <jose> de venezuela
[00:21] <jose> y tu
[00:21] <gnaunited> Quick question, is BCM4308 an auto install device with the retricted drivers manager, or do I still need the CD
[00:21] <el_ruso> estoy en yaracuy
[00:21] <jose> yo en anzoategui
[00:22] <jose> puerto la cruz
[00:22] <el_ruso> aceptame un privado
[00:22] <kejava> is power management working well for those of you trying out hardy?  (specifically suspend to RAM)
[00:22] <unop> !en
[00:22] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:22] <jose> no se como
[00:22] <d3mitr1> when is hardy spose to come out?
[00:22] <crazytalk> in xserver-xorg should i enable 'use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[00:22] <el_ruso> te llego?
[00:23] <jose> y eso?
[00:23] <el_ruso> te llego el privado
[00:23] <JohninLex> yea i have no problems with power management computer sleep fine and wakes up fine
[00:23] <d3mitr1> when is it gonna be released?
[00:23] <JohninLex> KEjava^^^^
[00:24] <el_ruso> ubontu sorry... i trying to invite jose to private
[00:24] <earthmeLon> OoooH!  Seems I have to figure out how to install flash for firefox-3.0 manually
[00:24] <MrSteve> where is beryl ???
[00:24] <kejava> JohninLex, cool.  i'm still using fiesty.  having minor kbd issue when resuming from suspend.  hope it gets cleared up in hardy
[00:24] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  - you got desktop?
[00:25] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  -- click the file, and extract
[00:25] <MegaIRC> hello
[00:25] <MrSteve> where is Beryl?
[00:25] <earthmeLon> MrSteve what file are you talking about?
[00:25] <JohninLex> I have 8.04 I have had no other linux programs here, but I can say that mine is working I hope like it is souposed to
[00:25] <MrSteve> tar.gz installer
[00:25] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: beryl has been replaced by compiz/compiz-fusion
[00:25] <MegaIRC> can somebody help me with a booting trouble?
[00:25] <el_ruso> kejava the problem was fixed in hardy.
[00:26] <earthmeLon> MrSteve, I still have no clue what you're talking about bro
[00:26] <MrSteve> Starnestommy:  -- It's NOT in ubuntu?
[00:26] <kejava> el_ruso, have you seen the issue with the kbd before?  mine basically doesn't respond after a resume from suspend
[00:26] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: beryl is, but compiz is better and already installed by default in 7.10
[00:26] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  - download the tar.gz file to the desktop, thenk click it, and extract it
[00:26] <MrSteve> already?
[00:26] <MrSteve> HOW I do this?
[00:26] <unop> !beryl | MrSteve
[00:26] <ubotu> MrSteve: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:27] <el_ruso> in gnome works fine in my pc
[00:27] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  -- I just did this, to watch utube
[00:27] <FallenAngel> earthmeLon - right - lets see if this works. Back soon!
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> Lightwieght pdf viewer? Reccomendations? Thanks!
[00:27] <earthmeLon> MrSteve, Oh, from the Macromedia site
[00:27] <kejava> el_ruso, regardless.  i'm glad you've heard it's fixed :)  i can't find any info on a work around
[00:27] <MrSteve> earthmeLon: yep
[00:28] <el_ruso> kejava, i had the same problem in gutsy (with gnome) but it was fixed in hardy
[00:28] <earthmeLon> MrSteve  Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported hehe
[00:28] <AirBender> I need dri2proto package in order to compile Mesa, where can I find it?
[00:29] <el_ruso> kejava http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:29] <MegaIRC> I can´t boot ubuntu cause I get a black screnn with a blinking cursor
[00:29] <crazytalk> in xserver-xorg should i enable 'use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[00:29] <Pelo> MegaIRC, boot the recovery mode and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:29] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: Foxit Reader.
[00:29] <MegaIRC> recovery mode can´t work
[00:30] <JohninLex> the one and only Pelo
[00:30] <Pelo> crazytalk, if you donT' know , leave the default
[00:30]  * Pelo is actualy one of many  
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> KOJV: for linux, i meant. i think xpdf looks good...
[00:30] <MegaIRC> I get another blinking cursor in recovery mode
[00:30] <errpast> I tried Ubuntu 7.10 on an Acer, it got stuck at "couldn't find tty"
[00:30] <MegaIRC> after some pages of messages in the screen
[00:30] <Pelo> Odd-rationale, evince for pdf
[00:31] <errpast> Is there anything I did wrong?
[00:31] <Pelo> errpast, is it installed yet ?
[00:31] <errpast> It was a live dvd from a magzine, and I was trying it at an office store
[00:31] <errpast> Pelo, no
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: evince is quite light? 128mb ram old laptop...
[00:31] <MrSteve> okay.. How do I ask to get Compiz ccsm.. and all files?
[00:31] <errpast> I was trying to find a laptop at an office store that would work "out of the box"
[00:31] <MegaIRC> I can´t even get a console mode with Ctrl+Àlt+f2
[00:31] <Pelo> errpast, you might want to give the alternate install cd a try ,  get it from the ubuntu.com site,  download section, check the alternate cd box bellow the download button
[00:32] <Pelo> Odd-rationale,  I just came it , I didn'T see the beginning
[00:32] <el_ruso> errpast download your own version from ubuntu.com
[00:32] <errpast> Pelo, good idea. doh.... I had that with me, and didn't think to try it
[00:32] <pclynch> what is the command for trash?
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: oh, ok. I forgive you :)
[00:32] <Pelo> MegaIRC, pay attention,  boot the recovery mode,
[00:32] <errpast> el_ruso, thanks good idea
[00:32] <icesword> !nautilus
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <Pelo> icesword, what do you need to know about nautilus ?
[00:33] <Pelo> !info nautilus | icesword
[00:33] <ubotu> icesword: nautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu7.1 (gutsy), package size 629 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[00:33] <icesword> hmm
[00:33] <pclynch> what is the command for trash?
[00:33] <MegaIRC> I booted the recovery mode, but it doesn´t work, blinking cursor after many screen messages
[00:33] <Pelo> pclynch, you mean to delete ?   rm
[00:33] <icesword> naulitus ~/.trash
[00:33] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - it seems to have made no difference :( On restart I was back at the 'low graphics' warning, on the VESA driver
[00:33] <Pelo> MegaIRC, can you type in the blinking msg ?
[00:33] <MegaIRC> no I can´t type
[00:34] <pclynch> Pelo: no i want to make a to make a launcher
[00:34] <Pelo> MegaIRC, do you have an old kernel installed you can try ?
[00:34] <crazytalk> Pelo: ty
[00:34] <Pelo> pclynch, to put on your desktop ?
[00:34] <pclynch> yes
[00:34] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: from what I can tell, foxit is available for linux... http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[00:34] <MegaIRC> no, I have only last one, cause I have my system updated
[00:34] <pclynch> Pelo: exactly
[00:34] <Pelo> pclynch, open gconf-editor , under   /apps/nautilus/desktop  you can check a box for that
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> KOJV: ok. thanks! but it is not open source :(
[00:35] <earthmeLon> You ran envy and installed the drivers, right?  First you install envy, then you run envy and install the drivers with it
[00:35] <pclynch> Pelo: okay thanks
[00:35] <Nexano> anyone got any experience with running 2 monitors with different resolutions using an nvidia gpu?
[00:35] <Pelo> !dualhead | Nexano
[00:35] <ubotu> Nexano: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:35] <FallenAngel> yeah - it ran through, I saw it getting the drivers, then it prompted for a restart
[00:35] <dmsuperman> Nexano, I just use nvidida-settings and it works
[00:35] <NateF> guys, when i load into text install, my computer gets stuck on "[  46.873218] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr oxo action 0x2 fr [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00 (BMDMA stat 0x24) [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:080/a0 tag 0 cdb 0 ata 96 in"           and it gets stuck there
[00:35] <dmsuperman> Nexano, sorry "nvidia-settings"
[00:35] <earthmeLon> What kind of card do you have again FallenAngel?
[00:35] <FallenAngel> 7950GT
[00:36] <Orbixx> How do I force a dismount on a CD drive?
[00:36] <asinine> good morning
[00:36] <FallenAngel> just the one, no sli or anything
[00:36]  * Pelo wonders why he's helping the rich kids with the fancy videocard and the multiple 40" lcd monitors and what not 
[00:36] <Nexano> dmsuperman: it restricts my second screen to 640x480 >:|
[00:36] <MegaIRC> isn´t there another way to recover my system than reinstall?
[00:36] <dmsuperman> Nexano, then somethings' awry with your xorg.conf or your drivers
[00:36] <icesword> 40"
[00:36] <Pelo> Orbixx, sudo umount -f /mount/point
[00:36] <NateF> please someone help me
[00:36] <dmsuperman> Nexano, try installing the latest driver from nvidia.com, i had issues with the one in the repos
[00:36] <unop> Orbixx, pmount /dev/cdrom || sudo umount /dev/cdrom  # substitute /dev/cdrom for your device here
[00:36] <Pelo> NateF, do you realy think we can tell someting from that line ?
[00:37] <dmsuperman> Nexano, and reconfigure xorg.conf using "sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg" and then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[00:37] <NateF> lol heres the proablem
[00:37] <Nexano> dmsuperman: but my main monitor and drivers seems to be working just fine oO
[00:37] <unop> Orbixx,err,  pumount /dev/cdrom || sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[00:37] <NateF> i already posted it up above
[00:37] <gogeta> !ask | NateF
[00:37] <ubotu> NateF: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:37] <NateF>  gets stuck loading from this: [  46.873218] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr oxo action 0x2 fr [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00 (BMDMA stat 0x24) [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:080/a0 tag 0 cdb 0 ata 96 in
[00:37] <Pelo> NateF, download and burn the alternate insctall cd,  it is text based and less fussy about hardware during instll,   you can get it from the ubuntu.con site in the download section,  just check the alternate cd box under the download button
[00:37] <NateF> i did ask the question in one line
[00:37] <FallenAngel> also, I noticed that in the 'restricted drivers' applet the nvidia driver is listed as 'in use', but not 'enabled'
[00:37] <NateF> it is the alternative cd
[00:37] <gogeta> humm ata error
[00:38] <bent_> Hey again #ubuntu. I have a very very annoying problem with my broadcom drivers... infact, I have no interface at all right now. I have a BCM94311MCG, rev 02.
[00:38] <MrSteve> How do I tell my pc to go to CGIT, and get a repository to install?
[00:38] <bent_> Oh, and the 43xx drivers don't work... to my knowledge.
[00:38] <Pelo> NateF, waht is your computer ?
[00:38] <MegaIRC> pelo have you got anymore idea about my trouble please?
[00:38] <kknn> hi  how to configure ubuntu network optimal for home gateway?
[00:38] <el_ruso> bent b43
[00:38] <Pelo> MrSteve, what is cgit ?
[00:38] <NateF> an Compaq Presario from 2001, 2.53 GHZ processor 512 MB RAM 64MB video card 120GB hard drive
[00:39] <MrSteve> Pelo -- it is at the CompizFusion website
[00:39] <NateF> pentium 4 proccessor by the way
[00:39] <Pelo> MegaIRC, not realy, boot the live cd ,  backup your /home folder and clean install
[00:39] <bent_> el_ruso: I'll try those... but I didn't think they worked when I used them.
[00:39] <MrSteve> Pelo - a repository
[00:39] <Pelo> MrSteve, ask in #compiz then
[00:39] <MrSteve> ahhh! ok
[00:39] <MrSteve> duh, me
[00:39] <el_ruso> bent ndiswrapper
[00:39] <FallenAngel> i'll try another restart - I've ticked the 'enabled' checkbox
[00:40] <Pelo> MrSteve,  sorry,   browser that website fro the repositoreis and put them in   menu > sysem > admin > softare sources , , 2nd tab
[00:40] <bent_> el_ruso: Tried that, no go. At all. With three different .inf files, and 4 different re-installs... and 2 compiles.
[00:40] <Pelo> NateF, what video card ?
[00:40] <el_ruso> have you tried with linuxant?
[00:40] <NateF> Integraded Intel Extreme graphics
[00:40] <MegaIRC> I boot with my live CD, I can see my documents, but in some folders I can´t read, or wirte cause I have no the permissions
[00:40] <NateF> 1 AGP slot
[00:41] <bent_> el_ruso: Not yet, infact. What's that?
[00:41] <Pelo> NateF, ok , is this the first tiem you install ubuntu   on this comp ?
[00:41] <NateF> yes
[00:41] <gogeta> MegaIRC sounds normal
[00:41] <el_ruso> bent www.linuxant.com download driverloader
[00:41] <Pelo> NateF, ok we'll check the cd first,  boot again ,  from the cd boot menu , run the cd integrity check
[00:41] <NateF> cd intregrity check how??
[00:41] <glick> excuse me, i put a data dvd into my my dvd rom drive and its not automounting?
[00:42] <glick> how can i access the disk?
[00:42] <NateF> the CD is fine i already checked it
[00:42] <gogeta> MegaIRC if you would like to mess with those files (probly not a good idea) sudo natults
[00:42] <Pelo> MegaIRC, thsoer are the my documents of the windows install , you don'T have access
[00:42] <MegaIRC> can I change folders/files permissions from liveCD?
[00:42] <glick> anyone know why my dvd drive isnt automounting my disk?
[00:42] <Pelo> NateF, ok the ,  anyting else instlled on this computer that you want to keep
[00:42] <Pelo> MegaIRC,  not for a ntfs partition
[00:42] <NateF> no
[00:43] <glick> can i manually mount it somehow?
[00:43] <NateF> i want to wipe everything clean and go full blown ubuntu linux
[00:43] <MegaIRC> I only want to use my password in ubuntu
[00:43] <gogeta> MegaIRC you can move the file to another drive without issue
[00:43] <Pelo> NateF, ok here is waht I suggest,   partition your hdd before you start the install and during the install use the manual partitonnint when you get to it ,     that way you will hve less formating to d and hopefully this will take some of the load off of the install
[00:44] <MegaIRC> but I don´t know if can move/copy files without permissions
[00:44] <NateF> ok, how do i re partition without any OS, its a blank HDD right now
[00:44] <Joe_Blow> Hi all, i was wondering if anyone could help me with a partition table problem i've been having, i've pasted the output of sfdisk -l and testdisk into pastebin if anyone wants to have a look? --> http://pastebin.ca/991397
[00:44] <Pelo> NateF, make 3 partitons,   / ext3  5-10 gig ,  /swap linux-swap  1gig ,  /home  ext3 the rest
[00:44] <gogeta> MegaIRC lol well no wonder why its blank
[00:44] <el_ruso> bent linuxant driver loader works with your wificard
[00:44] <NateF> how do i do that
[00:44] <Pelo> NateF, from the install cd ,
[00:45] <prashant___> can any one help me with how to use chroot i cant understand the wiki either , i have tried whatever instruction were there but i am completely lost what to do :s
[00:45] <winger> NateF: Just pop the CD in, and click the install icon after you get the desktop showing
[00:45] <bent_> el_ruso: Trying it out now, thanks!
[00:45] <Pelo> NateF, get in the command line and type   parted
[00:45] <NateF> ok
[00:45] <Pelo> winger, alternate install cd
[00:45] <Joe_Blow> It seems my extended partition has been conflicting with one of my linux partitions, and was wondering if i deleted the extended partition, it might fix my problem?
[00:45] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: what i the problem your having
[00:45] <NateF> hold on
[00:45] <gogeta> Pelo he just said it was aruldy formated
[00:45] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: can you explain in a little more detail what the issue is
[00:45] <Pelo> gogeta, when ?
[00:45] <winger> Pelo: old hardware situation?
[00:45] <MegaIRC> gogeta: it worked very good for 34 months tills today
[00:45] <Pelo> winger, not realy , 2001 , not so old
[00:45] <gogeta> NateF: ok, how do i re partition without any OS, its a blank HDD right now
[00:46] <NateF> yes its blank
[00:46] <Pelo> winger,  weird error msg in hex
[00:46] <el_ruso> bent: actually if you cannot get succesful, you can replace your wificard
[00:46] <winger> Pelo: Then he should get the normal graphical installer
[00:46] <Joe_Blow> the debian/ubuntu installer wont detect my partition table correctly, it detects my master drive as unallocated
[00:46] <glick> anyone know what could cause me not being able to mount a dvd?
[00:46] <gogeta> that was for pelo
[00:46] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: is this one drive, is is this a raid drive in any way
[00:46] <prashant___> ﻿can any one help me with how to use chroot i cant understand the wiki either , i have tried whatever instruction were there but i am completely lost what to do :(
[00:46] <Pelo> gogeta, he does it from the install cd
[00:46] <Joe_Blow> no raid, just a single drive
[00:46] <ikonia> gogeta: what is the error
[00:47] <NateF> it says unable to mount fs on wn-block(104,1)
[00:47] <ikonia> glick what is the error
[00:47] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - any more ideas? It looks as if the nVidia driver attempts to load, as the screen tries to change resolution 3 times before the 'low graphics' message appears, then when I check in the 'propietry drivers' applett again, the nvidia driver is listed as 'not enabled' again!
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: thats odd, it's showing up as not partitioned
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[00:47] <Pelo> for everyone interested in the current problem ^
[00:47] <Joe_Blow> dualboot with XP and corrupt ubuntu install, cant reinstall untill i repair my partiton table
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: ahhh you've got no primary partition
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: you need at least one primary partition
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: I think......
[00:48] <gogeta>  Pelo yea but he said he blanked it thers no recovering that easly
[00:48] <NateF> now it has a error of: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount fs on wn-block(104,1)
[00:48] <gogeta>  Pelo just reformat the entire thing
[00:48] <Pelo> gogeta, that's what I just told him to do
[00:48] <shmoolikipod> hello
[00:49] <Pelo> !hi shmoolikipod
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi shmoolikipod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <gogeta> NateF yea just tell the installer to use the entire disk
[00:49] <Pelo> sigh ...
[00:49] <NateF> how do i reformat with Ubuntu if it doesnt have a reformat option or command, since the one you gave me doesnt work, come up with an error
[00:49] <McJester> I need some help, I'm stuck at busybox, with an error "Check root =bootarg cat /prc/cmdline
[00:49] <Pelo> NateF, get to the command line and type  parted
[00:49] <NateF> how, im very very noobish
[00:49] <NateF> i did
[00:49] <lucia_> how can I install icon themes?
[00:49] <shmoolikipod> how can i prevent from the  windows to get focus on open
[00:49] <shmoolikipod> ?
[00:49] <Pelo> NateF, no menu ?
[00:49] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract all????
[00:49] <NateF> i get the menu
[00:49] <winger> Natef: can you download and burn a CD that has the graphical  installer?
[00:50] <latitu> where can i see alternative apps of windows?
[00:50] <winger> Natef: It will make your life easier
[00:50] <Pelo> NateF, I mean the parted menu ?
[00:50] <latitu> what is the alternative of ms frontpage in linux?
[00:50] <NateF> it loads with a splash menu type of menu
[00:50] <Pelo> latitu, nvu
[00:50] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract the icons themes????
[00:50] <latitu> Pelo what?
[00:50] <joanki> can anyone tell me if i can get itunes for ubuntu?
[00:51] <Pelo> latitu, frontpage equivalent nvu
[00:51] <gogeta> NateF hit alt f2 type the command pelo said
[00:51] <deserteagle> joanki: don't think so
[00:51] <Pelo> !itunes | joanki
[00:51] <ubotu> joanki: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[00:51] <FallenAngel> joanki - have a look at Juk
[00:51] <el_ruso> joanki try with rythimbox
[00:51] <joanki> so i can't buy music off of itunes?
[00:51] <lucia_> joakim-,  use banshee
[00:51] <NateF> nothing happens when i hit that
[00:51] <lucia_> joakim-,  sudo apt-get install banshee
[00:51] <joanki> ok
[00:51] <Pelo> NateF, forget everyting,  you hve another wroking computer ?
[00:51] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract the icons themes????
[00:51] <bouma> installed 8.04 on the weekend, only a couple of days till releasey :)
[00:52] <NateF> lol, yes but i need this to install any way possible
[00:52] <Pelo> lucia_,  open the theme manager and drag drop the tar.gz file in it
[00:52] <bent_> el_ruso: Nogo, can't find it.
[00:52] <lucia_> Pelo,  I did it , didn't work tough
[00:52] <gogeta> NateF ok then use the menu acres and termnel and type it
[00:52] <Pelo> NateF, download the live cd
[00:52] <gogeta> - my horrid spelling there
[00:52] <el_ruso> bent what?
[00:52] <NateF> live CD wont work, the status bar freezes and nothing happens
[00:52] <joanki> lucia_, but it doesn't play itunes music does it?
[00:52] <Pelo> lucia_,  ok sometimes they repack the tar to include instructions,    extract it once and look inside for another tar.gz file
[00:52] <bent_> el_ruso: Linuxant driver loader did couldn't find the wireless card.
[00:53] <Pelo> NateF, are you sure this computer works ?
[00:53] <el_ruso> bent: no?
[00:53] <gogeta> NateF sounds like a bad live cd
[00:53] <thor> im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[00:53] <NateF> yes, i used it in widnows about 2-3 days agoo
[00:53] <NateF> ago*
[00:53] <lucia_> joakim-,  it does, it allow you to download the lastest codecs automatically it's so cool
[00:53] <Pelo> NateF, type   fsck /dev/sda1
[00:53] <el_ruso> bent: have you tried in google?
[00:53] <NateF> ok hold on
[00:53] <bent_> el_ruso: I'm going to try a restart... and yes, none of the relevant results worked.
[00:53] <NateF> on the alter CD or Live cd
[00:54] <lucia_> nothing Pelo
[00:54] <Pelo> NateF, command line from the alt cd
[00:54] <el_ruso> bent: oh, sorry... restart frist
[00:54] <NateF> ok hold on
[00:54] <el_ruso> first
[00:54] <Pelo>  lucia_ gimme a link to the package so I can have a look
[00:54]  * kindofabuzz gives Pelo
[00:54] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, were you tring to finger me ?
[00:54] <lucia_> Pelo, : http://ultimate-gnome.googlecode.com/files/UltimateGnome.0.3.6.tar.gz
[00:54] <bouma> btw is anyone aware of the "bug", when you install other partitions will go on eg /media/sdax but then say you physically change the hdd to hdb and add another hda, the mount points now dont make sense with /dev/hdbx on /media/hdax .. i guess there is no clean way to solve this
[00:54] <gogeta> Pelo oh hes alt
[00:54] <climatewarrior> can anyone give me a direct link to download kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix by torrent
[00:55] <NateF> ok, i got the kernel panic error again
[00:55] <NateF> unable to mount
[00:55] <thor> Hey guys, im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[00:55] <Pelo> NateF, I donT think we are goig to be able to help you
[00:56] <NateF> lol, o well, atleast ill have a 120GB hard drive
[00:56] <NateF> thanks for the help anyway
[00:56] <icesword> NateF, unnable to mount the livecd?
[00:56] <NateF> no
[00:56] <NateF> alternative
[00:56] <Pelo> lucia_, don'T know what the problem is , I just downloaded that file dragged it to the apperance manager and it instlled no problem
[00:56] <bouma> thor: try #bash, they once helped me make a simple script that readline'ed and colourised in a loop
[00:56] <icesword> unable to do what?
[00:57] <lucia_> Pelo,  where is the appereance manager folder located?
[00:57] <Pelo> icesword, no install ,  kernel panick,   alternate cd,   bad errors during install,   effed up situation
[00:57] <lucia_> so I can extract there, do you know?
[00:57] <Pelo> lucia_, ~/.Theme
[00:57] <Pelo> lucia_,  sorry ~/.icon
[00:57] <Rolcol> Which do you guys prefer?  VirtualBox or VMWare?
[00:58] <climatewarrior> can anyone give me a direct link to download kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix by torrent?
[00:58] <Pelo> Rolcol, they both have nice features
[00:58] <in4mer> sup?
[00:58] <Pelo> climatewarrior, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:58] <icesword> Rolcol, depends
[00:58] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: okay, since I'm a casual Win user whose programming skillz is limited to QuickBasic and simple mIRC scripts, I don't care about the source being open or closed...
[00:59] <ddden> is there a link to a ubuntu developers distro?  ... i'm new here ...
[00:59] <el_ruso> bent what's up?
[00:59] <Pelo> ddden, developer distro ?
[00:59]  * KOJV reboots and disconnects his internal drives, hoping to install Xunbuntu to the USB drive.
[00:59] <thor> bouma: seems that averyone is afk there
[00:59] <ddden> wondering ... what distro's do the MOTU and core teams use?
[00:59] <bent_> el_ruso: Still a no. :/
[01:00] <Pelo> ddden, what would be the prupose of that ?
[01:00] <Stroganoff> ddden they use ubuntu i guess
[01:00] <Pelo> ddden, developpenent/developper versions are probabaly the most handicaped distros around
[01:00] <el_ruso> bent, sorry... email to your pc provider for linux drivers
[01:01]  * Pelo imagines the hell of running a distro build for the stated purpose of triggering bugs 
[01:01] <ddden> i c ... i just want an developers environment out-of-the-box ... ubuntu is nice ... but for development ... ??  i was just wondering ...
[01:01] <thor> Hey guys, im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[01:01] <ddden> thanks ..
[01:02] <Pelo> thor, grep ?
[01:02] <Pelo> thor, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[01:03] <Pelo> ddden, all the packages you can need to develope with are in the repos most likely ,  just intall ubuntu and then isntall the pacakges for the aps you want
[01:04] <ddden> thanks ... but there are tons of stuff missing ... ie. yacc, lex, ... standard dev stuff ...
[01:04]  * Pelo took a few minutes to make a new theme for the default gdesklets clock that looks like the cairo clock and uses a lot less memory
[01:04] <Maarek_> ddden: you can  always add/remove the apps yuo want
[01:05] <Pelo> ddden, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,   enable the extra repositories from the menus
[01:05] <el_ruso> bent sign up linuxant forums and ask the developers for your problem
[01:05] <ddden> ok ... i'm new with ubuntu ... i'll try it out .. thanks ...
[01:06] <bent_> el_ruso: Okay, I'll see where that goes... I was hoping to get this fixed by tommrow.
[01:06] <Pelo> ddden, to enable the extra repositories,   goto menu > sysetm < admin > software sources,   check all the boxes in the top half of the 1st and 3rd  tab , then reload
[01:06] <Pelo> bent_, did you try with ndiswrapper and the windows driver for your wifi card ?
[01:06] <el_ruso> bent: you can change your wifi card also
[01:06] <bent_> Pelo: Yup.
[01:07]  * Pelo buts out 
[01:07] <bent_> el_ruso: I'm not that... crafty. And I allready lost my other usb wireless thing.
[01:07] <ddden> Thanks ... that (synaptic) looks better ...
[01:08] <Pelo> ddden,  add remove give you only apps,  synaptic is for every package availabe,  you can also include 3rd party repos if you have them
[01:08] <Pelo> !repos
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:08] <el_ruso> bent: are you using an usb device for wifi?
[01:08] <Pelo> !extrarepos
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extrarepos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Pelo> hmmm
[01:08] <pclynch> where can i change the settings for what programs start when the computer boots?
[01:09] <MrSteve> this is like soo nifty!  I like it
[01:09] <Pelo> pclynch,  start te progs you want to start,  close those you don'T     goto system > prefs < session ,  last tab ,  save session
[01:09] <dmsuperman> With the compiz settings manager, how can I bind a hotkey action to Ctrl + Scrollwheel down ?
[01:09] <Pelo> MrSteve, ???
[01:09] <floating> i guess the stuff that starts up during the boot are in /etc/init.d and the stuff that start when gnome starts can be found from some of the gnomes menus
[01:09] <Pelo> dmsuperman, ask in #compiz
[01:09] <Pelo> floating, either way will work
[01:10] <bent_> el_ruso: No... but I had one a while ago (re:using a usb.)
[01:10] <Pelo> floating, probabaly better not to put any graphical stuff in init.d however
[01:10] <MrSteve> oooo, I will be working with this OS, a long time.. and Be HAPPY about it
[01:10] <floating> ^^
[01:11] <Pelo> MrSteve, nah,  you 'll be upgrading in 4 days
[01:11] <MrSteve> tru
[01:11] <MrSteve> but.. i will like that
[01:11] <el_ruso> bent: contact your provider for linux support g2g friend
[01:12] <Pelo> MrSteve, and with the upgrade you wonT' neven have to use compiz for compositing if you donT' care for all the eyecandy effect,   you'll get simple  shadows and transparanes from  metacity directly , for a lot less cpu
[01:13] <el_ruso> bent: try also in #ubuntu-us channel for help
[01:13] <NateF> if you have a hard drive that has a version of Ubuntu i386 can you swap that with my one thats screwed?
[01:13]  * Pelo doesn'T get why he gets an error about line 40 in /etc/mobprobe.d/alsa-base when there is only 39 line in alsa-base
[01:14] <Pelo> NateF, probably,  it will take a while to load while the hardware is rescanned
[01:14] <NateF> then does anyone know if they have a hard drive they dont want that has Ubuntu i386 on it that i can have?
[01:15] <T1m0thy> Nate, why can't you reinstall?
[01:15]  * Pelo wallos NateF 
[01:15] <el_ruso> well, guys... gotta go... have a good night!!!
[01:15] <NateF> my HDD is screwed for life
[01:15] <NateF> lol thanks pelo
[01:15] <Pelo> T1m0thy, install issues for thelast hours
[01:15] <T1m0thy> NateF: Oh, well they aren't too expensive.
[01:15] <NateF> the hdd's wit pre-installed ubuntu
[01:15] <Pelo> NateF, check your local mom and pop computer stores ask if they have a second hand hdd
[01:16] <NateF> lol
[01:16] <T1m0thy> NateF: Why does it matter if it's preinstalled?
[01:16] <Pelo> you can probably get  20 -- 40 gig for about 20$
[01:16] <NateF> does anyone know an online store selling pre-installed ubuntu on it that i can buy?
[01:16] <T1m0thy> NateF: It isn't hard to install.
[01:16] <NateF> well "installed" whatever u wana call it
[01:16] <Pelo> NateF, dell, system 76,   complete systems, not just  hdd
[01:16] <NateF> it is for me
[01:16] <T1m0thy> :\...
[01:16] <NateF> cause my hdd is screwed and will not install
[01:17] <T1m0thy> NateF: With a new one it should be easy.
[01:17] <NateF> that a computer with linux installed?
[01:17] <NateF> dell system 76
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, with ubuntu installed
[01:17] <NateF> yes
[01:17] <nsandiman> hi, any idea how to get started developing linux device drivers?
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, they are companies,   Dell or  System 76,  google them
[01:17] <NateF> or atleast able to install ubuntu
[01:17] <NateF> ok
[01:17] <NateF> ill google it now
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, walmart also sells a EEpc with gobuntu on it
[01:18] <Pelo> for 200 $
[01:18] <NateF> how much space
[01:18] <Pelo> NateF, check on their site
[01:18] <T1m0thy> Like 4 gb.
[01:18] <NateF> im checking system 76 now
[01:18] <T1m0thy> -.-
[01:18] <NateF> i need atleast 100GB
[01:18] <NateF> maybe moore,
[01:18] <NateF> more*
[01:18] <T1m0thy> NateF: Can you use SATA?
[01:18] <Pelo> T1m0thy, no your thinking of the asus eepc thing,  I was thinking of the walmart one,   everex
[01:19] <NateF> uhh i dont think so
[01:19] <Pelo> T1m0thy, 2001  compac
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, that isn't called an EEpc.
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, it's a laptop?
[01:19] <Pelo> T1m0thy, I made a mistake,  eepc is the asus one ,   walmart is the everex
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, oh, okay, sorry.
[01:19] <NateF> ahh i dont think my parents will spend 595 on a linux cpu for me :(
[01:20] <T1m0thy> Is this a laptop or desktop?
[01:20] <Pelo> NateF, walmart  200$  everex,  with gOS on it , a ubuntu port
[01:20] <NateF> i need more then 4Gb though
[01:20] <Pelo> everex is a desktop
[01:20] <T1m0thy> No I mean what he has.
[01:20] <Pelo> NateF, 4 gig was for the asus eepc laptop
[01:20] <linkmaster03> what would be the best language to program web apps in Linux?
[01:20] <NateF> o
[01:20] <linkmaster03> Ubuntu obviously
[01:20] <NateF> how much space for that
[01:20] <Pelo> T1m0thy,  desktop I guess
[01:21] <Pelo> NateF, google
[01:21] <NateF> lol
[01:21] <NateF> ok
[01:21] <Pelo> we donT keep all this stuff in our head you know
[01:21] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: php?
[01:21] <linkmaster03> like a standalone app
[01:21] <linkmaster03> that is good connecting with the internet
[01:21] <bent_> Hm, hey #ubuntu again. Anyone good at making broadcoms magically work... and/or reading my mind as to where I would hide my other wireless card(s)?
[01:22] <Pelo> !broadcom
[01:22] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:22] <T1m0thy> NateF: I really think that you should try something like this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210001 , as far as I'm informed the only reasont he install is so hard is because your current hard drive has problems. I think it would be in your best interests to just replace this drive and install it yourself.
[01:22] <bent_> Thanks, Pelo, but I've tried that.
[01:22] <NateF> ah, i see ill check it out
[01:22] <Pelo> bent_, did you research the problem in the forum ?  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:23] <MrSteve> wow, I am like so happy with this thing!  finally
[01:23] <Pelo> NateF, make sure you have sata plugs
[01:23] <bent_> Pelo: did that too, tried more than 4 how-tos.
[01:23] <MrSteve> a desktop, and computer I can use
[01:23] <NateF> ok
[01:23] <Pelo> MrSteve, what did you installed that made you so happy ?
[01:23] <NateF> wait, i dont think i do
[01:23] <bent_> Pelo: But, I can look again.
[01:23] <MrSteve> Ubuntu Gutsy
[01:23] <T1m0thy> Pelo: I chose an IDE one for him.
[01:23] <Pelo> MrSteve, vanilla gutsy makes you this happy ?
[01:24] <MrSteve> Pelo:  uhm.. I'm working on the desktop settings
[01:24] <Pelo> T1m0thy, sorry I thought it said sata at the top , I must have missread
[01:24] <NateF> i think ill just beg for the system 76 computers look nice
[01:24] <NateF> hopefully my parents let me get it
[01:24] <MrSteve> my windows wobble
[01:24] <MrSteve> they fade
[01:24] <Pelo> MrSteve, look into screenlets,  gdesklets,  and www.gnome-look.org
[01:25] <T1m0thy> Pelo, it was ATA. No problem, though. ^^
[01:25] <MrSteve> okays
[01:25]  * Pelo didn'T realise that MrSteve was an eye-candy whore 
[01:25] <NateF> lol
[01:25] <Pelo> Candy rots your teeth,  eye-candy rots your brain, say no to compiz
[01:25] <ifelseif> give my shell any day
[01:26] <NateF> hay if im going to run the system32 Koala Mini as a server, how should i config it? i cant afford the servers that system 76 has
[01:26] <Pelo> ifelseif, would you happen to know why modprobe read a non-existing line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[01:26] <MrSteve> I wanted multiple shells.. the hard way.. where there was no other shell.
[01:26] <fopascual> hello
[01:26] <ifelseif> not, dirrectly no
[01:27] <MrSteve> best I could get was 4 sides..no virtual
[01:27] <rj175> anyone good with awstats?
[01:27] <Pelo> MrSteve, you can have more then 4 sides in the compiz-cube , mind you it's not a cube anymore
[01:28] <Pelo> MrSteve, ther is even a plugin to make it a cylinder
[01:28] <Pelo> rj175, ask your quesiton anyway , someone might know the answer
[01:28] <Dr_willis> an infinitaly sided cube!
[01:29] <AaronMT> Hi, how do I rescan USB ports. I turned off my wireless mouse, turned it back on and the USB port is not detecting it in the same port.
[01:29] <Pelo> Dr_willis, I just think it's curved sides
[01:29] <Seven_Six_Two> I've had 12 sides
[01:29] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:29] <ifelseif> pelo, what none existing line is it reading?
[01:30] <linkinxp> Pelo:  saludos! :)
[01:30] <Pelo> rj175, what is awstats anyway ?
[01:30] <rj175> its a website statistics software
[01:30] <bouma> hi, i get an error asking for libstdc++.so.5 under ubuntu8.04, can i apt-get something to help ?
[01:30] <linkinxp> bouma:  use synaptic
[01:31] <Spartan> does anyone know how to set up an anonymous samba share
[01:31] <Pelo> ifelseif, warning : /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 40 : ignoring bad line starting with : snd-hda-intel
[01:32] <jrib> bouma: help with hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <ikonia> Spartan: use the guest account
[01:32] <ifelseif> have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[01:32] <Pelo> ifelseif, there is no line 40 in alsa-base it only has 39 lines,  there use to be one , I remove it ,  still got the message,   went back and put an black line,  still no go
[01:32] <bouma> jrib: thanks
[01:32] <Pelo> linkinxp, hi
[01:32] <linkinxp> Pelo:  how are you doing?
[01:32] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:33] <shingalated> How can soundcards be reconfigured in hardy?  As of this morning I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." When I click the volume control applet.
[01:33] <ifelseif> where you having a problem with your sound before?
[01:33] <shingalated> no
[01:33] <Spartan> i have set it up with guest account but the share is point to a folder on a fat32 partition an it is refusing to show when i browse the smb share
[01:33] <Pelo> linkinxp, the usual ,  troubleshooting  expensive hardware, on other ppl's computer
[01:34] <gogeta> Pelo :-( cheap emergcy build main powerhouse died
[01:34] <shingalated> ifelseif: I installed some updates this morning that may have caused the problem.
[01:34] <Pelo> ifelseif, I never realy add sound trouble,   I had a bit of feedback on high volume and someone suggestted a linne to add to alsabase which i tried, didn't sovle the prblem I fixed it another way,  but those two lines I aded are now removed,
[01:34] <Pelo> gogeta, what ?
[01:34] <guglielmo> ciao
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo my pc died i built another from parts
[01:35] <doffo> I just wanted to say that the whole Ubuntu team rocks!!!! :)
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo and a bare kit
[01:35] <Pelo> gogeta, nice to to have the parts around
[01:35] <doffo> Actually in the process of migrating to Ubuntu and not being forced to the Vista bandwagon. :)
[01:35]  * Pelo should never have donated his hold pc but he didn'T know linux back then 
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo more like striping off my dead pc
[01:36] <Pelo> gogeta, hey if it works
[01:36] <ikonia> doffo: keep in mind this is a busy support channel, try to keep the un-needed noise down please.
[01:36] <Pelo> ifelseif, what was I suppose to look at in that linkx ?
[01:36] <doffo> ok, sorry :)
[01:36] <ikonia> doffo: not a problem
[01:36] <Pelo> ifelseif,  nevermind, thats link was not for me
[01:37] <justinmiller87> I'm doing an essay on cheaper alternatives for a small business, and was interested in knowing more about Landscape. Does anyone in here have any experience with it and can tell me a little more about it other than what's on the info page at Canonical?
[01:37] <ifelseif> I cant remember, I had the same error when i was trying to get the sound working on a toshiba laptop,
[01:37] <ikonia> !offtopic
[01:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:38] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:38] <shingalated> Is there a way that I can have hardy redetect my soundcard as if I just did a fresh install? Like a dpkg-reconfigure or something?
[01:38] <Pelo> ifelseif, no worries, it's just annoing to see debug msg while booting , it's not actualy an issue,  might stpeed up my boot by 3 seconds
[01:38] <ikonia> rj175: depends how you installed and setup awstats
[01:38] <justinmiller87> ikonia, if that was for me, Landscape is a Canonical product designed to help rollout Ubuntu in an enterprise.
[01:38] <Pelo> !sound | shingalated
[01:38] <ubotu> shingalated: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:39] <ikonia> justinmiller87: again how is that support ontopic ?
[01:39] <shingalated> Pelo: the sound device isn't even detected any longer, so I can not select a sound server.
[01:39] <ifelseif> lol, I think I rewrote most of alsa from my desktop and then went back started to work it over fresh
[01:39]  * Pelo ' s cmputer is only using 4% cpu atm , compared to 9% before 
[01:39] <gogeta> Pelo :-( why ya care
[01:40] <gogeta> :P
[01:40] <ifelseif> pelo, what kind of system are you one?
[01:40] <Pelo> shingalated, hmm,   look into menu > system > admin > users , make sure your username, has permission to "use audio device"
[01:40] <Pelo> ifelseif, asus p4p800   celeron 2.4  1gig ram,  why ?
[01:41] <ifelseif> just looking over some forum
[01:41] <rj175> could u elaborate pleaseikonia
[01:41] <shingalated> Pelo: I am in all the correct audio groups and it says that I have permission to access the audio device.
[01:41] <ikonia> rj175: why you are geting that error depend on how you setup and configured awstats
[01:42] <Pelo> ifelseif, don't worry about it ,  I 'm pretty sure it's got to do with me adding two lines last week but I just don't get why it is still seeing the line since I removed it
[01:42] <rj175> ok do you have any pointers?
[01:42] <gogeta> Pelo i wanna find a 486 laptop that none whants :P just to install a text only linux
[01:42] <ikonia> tell me how you installed and configued it ?
[01:42] <Pelo> shingalated, ok that was a guess but it happens,  can't get sound when you are not like that
[01:42] <Pelo> gogeta, yo could probably run puppy linux on it
[01:43] <gogeta> Pelo probly but i need more text time to spoiled w guis
[01:43] <rj175> well installed awstats with aptitude, using the virual servers in virtualmin, all my virtual server files are in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and each site having its own file
[01:43] <api984> hello
[01:43] <Pelo> shingalated, look in to menu > sysetm > admin < restricted drivers ? any drives yo need on that ?
[01:43] <gogeta> Pelo could probly do ubuntu server w a basic x intall
[01:43] <Pelo> gogeta, got a local computer salvage store ?
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo nope
[01:44] <ikonia> rj175: ok, so how are the stats gathered (cron ??) and the reports generated ??
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo and ebay prices for a 20 year old laptop are stupid
[01:44] <shingalated> Pelo: all that is in there is my video. Also my audio was working before without any extra drivers.
[01:44] <rj175> the cron generates every 1 hour
[01:44] <Pelo> gogeta, ads in the local paper maybe
[01:44] <Pelo> gogeta, those are vintage
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo yea but 200 bucks come on
[01:44] <Pelo> shingalated, nvidia video ?
[01:44] <errpast> how can I remap my ctl key to caps lock?
[01:45] <Pelo> gogeta,  mind you laptop are expensive
[01:45] <shingalated> Pelo: yes that is present and enabled.
[01:45] <Dr_willis> errpast,  ive seen howtos on that befor.. somewhere.. :)  used to be a real common question years ago
[01:45] <Pelo> errpast, menu < syetm < prfs > keybaord shorctuts or scim
[01:45] <gogeta> Pelo yea but for 200 more you can buy a new one from walmart
[01:45] <Dr_willis> errpast,  i think people wanted to go the OTHER way however..
[01:45] <Pelo> shingalated, feel like trhing someting ?
[01:46] <shingalated> Pello: sure if it might help I will do it
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo that will do alot more then a vintage 496
[01:46] <Pelo> gogeta, 200$ at wallmart is for a desktop
[01:46] <ch_> 很好玩
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo i said 400$
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo + 200
[01:46] <bazhang> !cn | ch_
[01:46] <ubotu> ch_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:46] <redwhitewaldo> In "hardware drivers" I have chosen to enable device driver for "ATI accelerated graphics driver". how do i know the driver file name or application was downloaded and installed?
[01:46] <Quentin`> Hey there :)
[01:46] <AutoMatriX> hi
[01:47] <silencedbear> would anyone know how to enable a port ?
[01:47] <rj175> as for the reports ikonia i couldnt tell you
[01:47] <Pelo> shingalated,  there have been problems wth nvidia restreicted messing up soundcard , occasionnaly,  I want you to try and reconfigure xserver to use vesa and see wht happens, we can put the restricted driver back afterwards
[01:47] <api984> how good is virtualmin
[01:47] <silencedbear> i need to enable port 5267
[01:47] <richie_> I have another linux pc on my network, how can I see it from its hostname? richie@richie-desktop:~/Downloads$ ping richie-laptop
[01:47] <richie_> ping: unknown host richie-laptop
[01:47] <Pelo> silencedbear, enable it whre ?
[01:47] <rj175> api984, im mid way throught testing it but so far have had problems settings up awstats
[01:47] <gogeta> Pelo im not gonna give some ebay scammer 200$ for a 20 year old vintage laptop thats only gonna be a toy
[01:47] <Quentin`> Is there anyone here who know a tool which could give me the memory occupation of my c program at real time ? The goal is to get a graph, with gnuplot if it's possible...
[01:47] <gogeta> lol
[01:47] <shingalated> Pelo: I will give that a try, also I am or hardy I don't know if that matters (pulse audio?)
[01:47] <ikonia> richie_: you need some sort of name resolution
[01:48] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, check in admin menu < sysem  <`ADMIN > restreicted driver
[01:48] <richie_> ikonia, how?
[01:48] <Pelo> shingalated, oups
[01:48] <Toaster`> Good evening.  I'm trying to track down if there is a way to select a specific audio or subtitle track from the command line when running a DVD with vlc?
[01:48] <silencedbear> Pelo, a chat program is saying that i need to enable it saying it may be blocked by a firewall.
[01:48] <ikonia> richie_: host file, dns, nis, ldap any
[01:48] <Dr_willis> silencedbear,  there is no firewall rules by default. those high ports sould be open to any program that wants to use them.
[01:48] <Pelo> shingalated,  try asking in #ubuntu+1 then there might be somethign else going on
[01:48] <Dr_willis> silencedbear,  did you enable/install a firewall? it may beyour router is blocking it.
[01:48] <silencedbear> Hmm, wonder why that it's saying this than.
[01:48] <shingalated> pelo:okay I will, thank you
[01:48] <Pelo> silencedbear, what chat program , a linux one or a windows one on wine ?
[01:48] <rj175> ikonia any ideas?
[01:48] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: i'm on xubuntu
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: I missed your posts on setup, sorry
[01:49] <rj175> the cron generates every 1 hour
[01:49] <silencedbear> It's for um hotornot. Java based chat client. it opens in a firefox windows. And states its being blocked by a firewall to refresh it.
[01:49] <rj175> as for the reports ikonia i couldnt tell you
[01:49] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, are you having an actual issue or are you just looking for stuff to fix ?
[01:49] <lmiller_> Hi
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: you need to generate the reports and the repots path
[01:49] <silencedbear> No wine or anything. Just plain jane.
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: then visit that file in your browser
[01:49] <Pelo> silencedbear, which program ?
[01:49] <rj175> and how would one do that?
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: if the reports aren't setup, there is nothingto view
[01:49] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, try asking in #xubuntu
[01:50] <silencedbear> It's not a program. It's a chat program on a site called hotornot.com.
[01:50] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: i have an issue. i can't seem to get BOTH restricted driver AND extended desktop working at the same time.
[01:50] <lmiller_> I have a laptop HDD I've temporarily placed in my desktop box
[01:50] <lmiller_> I've used debootstrap to install a basic version of hardy on it
[01:50] <lmiller_> Now I want to put a bootloader in the MBR of the laptop HDD, take it out of the Desktop machine and put it back in the laptop
[01:50] <rj175> is tht the perl awstats.pl -update -config=mysite
[01:50] <lmiller_> I think grub will be confused by that
[01:50] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, extend desktop ? is that  like the desktop effects ?
[01:50] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: no.
[01:50] <silencedbear> it's probably my dsl modem blocking it anyways. I think it only enables port 80 :(
[01:51] <ikonia> rj175: no, thats updates
[01:51] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's having 2 monitors working as though they were one wide one
[01:51] <lmiller_> So, the desktop HDD is at /dev/sdb and the laptop is at /dev/sda
[01:51] <rj175> how do i generate the reports?
[01:51] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, I don'T know about that ,   I think you need to research twinview in the forum
[01:52] <lmiller_> The device.map on the chroot laptop HDD has (hd0) /dev/sda
[01:52] <Zackymc_k> i have a problem with booting the live cd of ubuntu 7.10 all i get is this after the verbose boot http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/zackymcharvest/Help/photo#5191494634579094130
[01:52] <dassouki> where is openoffice installed?
[01:52] <lmiller_> But how do I get grub to install the MBR on the laptop HDD without hosing my Desktop MBR?
[01:52] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, have you used that site before ? cause it sounds like a trap ,  unless you manualy blocked ports in the firewall using iptables or firestarter the firewall in ubuntu it not enabled  by default
[01:53] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: wrong person?
[01:53] <Starnestommy> dassouki: the executable for it is /usr/bin/openoffice
[01:53] <dassouki> Starnestommy, how about the template files ?
[01:53] <Pelo> shingalated, have you used that site before ? cause it sounds like a trap ,  unless you manualy blocked ports in the firewall using iptables or firestarter the firewall in ubuntu it not enabled  by default
[01:53] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, thanks , and sorry
[01:53] <rj175> ikonia how do i generate the reports???
[01:53] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, try the alternate install cd insteadd
[01:54] <Starnestommy> dassouki: /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/
[01:54] <bazhang> !xinerama | redwhitewaldo
[01:54] <ubotu> redwhitewaldo: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:54] <dassouki> Starnestommy, thanks :D
[01:54] <latitu> !ipcop
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <latitu> !info ipcop
[01:54] <ubotu> Package ipcop does not exist in gutsy
[01:54] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: i'm on 8.04. is xinerema still the way to go?
[01:54] <latitu> why ipcop dont exists in ubuntu?
[01:54] <blind> How can I upgrade from Edgy to Feisty then to Gusty?
[01:55] <blind> gutsy, rather
[01:55] <mutk> Heh 'Gusty'
[01:55] <Zackymc_k> Pelo, ok but what i have a problem with is if this happens on the live cd will this happen when i dual boot vista and ubuntu
[01:55] <bazhang> ah redwhitewaldo best to ask in Hardy channel for that--no idea
[01:55] <genii> blind: Pretty much in the order you just described
[01:55] <latitu> why ipcop dont exists in ubuntu? how can i install ipcop?
[01:55] <blind> genii: i don't remember how to upgrade though. where is the button lol
[01:55] <Dr_willis> !info ipcom
[01:55] <ubotu> Package ipcom does not exist in gutsy
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  use the source?
[01:56] <blind> or how do i do it via cli
[01:56] <latitu> Dr_willis ./configure thing?
[01:56] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, the alternate install cd should detect yor video card properly and install a vesa driver if no free driver is avaialbe,  there should be no issue
[01:56] <latitu> Dr_willis is ipcop gui?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  err... yes that is normally one step in compiling from source.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  no idea.. ive neverheard of it befor.. you are the one asking about it.. you dont know?
[01:57] <genii> blind: Check here for specific instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638336 latitu for gutsy
[01:57] <Dr_willis> latitu,  a fast google inplies that ipcop is a linux disrto. not a program ? perhaos thats just a distro i am reading that comes with it by default
[01:58] <rj175> ikonia how do i generate the reports???
[01:58] <Zackymc_k> Pelo, ok thanks do you happen to know if there is any problem with installing ubuntu on a HP tx1000 with a touch screen, im abit hesitant on installing it on my brand new laptop
[01:58] <ikonia> rj175: you set it up dynamic or via cron
[01:58] <latitu> bazhang Dr_willis thx
[01:59] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, not off the top of my head,  you can try looking up the model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport or doing some research in the forum www.ubuntuforus.org
[01:59] <Stroganoff> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_04_alpha_4_e_HP_TX1000_series Zackymc_k
[01:59] <Pelo> !helpersnack | Stroganoff
[01:59] <ubotu> Stroganoff: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[01:59] <latitu> bazhang Dr_willis  so i cant install it on my linux?
[01:59] <bazhang> http://www.codepencil.com/index.php/installing-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-on-my-hp-tx1003au-laptop/ Zackymc_k
[01:59] <blind> when trying to upgrade to feisty, i get "Could not calculate the upgrade: An unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade." :|
[02:00] <Zackymc_k> thanks for all the help
[02:00] <bazhang> latitu: why bother?
[02:00] <Pelo> bazhang,  you are not getting a cookie,  you need to loose some weight
[02:00] <rj175> could you explain how to do this?
[02:01] <matthew> what's the name of the apache server's user and group?
[02:01] <Starnestommy> matthew: www-data
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> sound is no longer working on my comp.
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> can someone help me troubleshoot?
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> I don't know what happneed
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> sound just stopped working
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, was it working before you installed the nvidia driver ?
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: yes
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> but i'm not sure if they're related, Pelo
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, did it work after you installed the nvidia driver ?
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> no
[02:03] <bazhang> redwhitewaldo: this is pulseaudio so gutsy fixes might not work for you
[02:03] <Pelo> !sound | redwhitewaldo
[02:03] <ubotu> redwhitewaldo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's not an nvidia driver
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, regardless
[02:04] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: what is pulseaudio? you said "this is pulseaudio". what is "this"?
[02:04] <bazhang> hardy uses pulseaudio redwhitewaldo
[02:05] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: you're saying that what pelo is saying may not apply to me, correct?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> latitu,  you aparently barely know what it is.. :) you might want to read up on it a bit more.
[02:05] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, that is what bazhang  is saying
[02:05] <sjovan> okay, i got a big problem. i need to cut a avi in to splitt sceens. in windows i used nandub (looks like avidemux, but a bit simpler). i have tryed avidemux, but for some strange reason it messes up the sound (both video and sound is set to direct copy). so do any one have a prog to recomend?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> latitu,  I barely know what it is.. but i did find a neat page on google about it  ipcop.org
[02:05]  * Pelo also suspects bazhang  of saying that his knowledge is dated 
[02:05] <iskaldur> hi, im looking to buy an external hd for my macbook and my kubuntu desktop. will a western digital work fine with kubuntu? (in particular, im looking at the one here: http://www.buy.com/prod/western-digital-250gb-my-passport-essential-usb-2-0-portable-hard-drive/q/loc/101/206780497.html)
[02:06] <bazhang> Pelo: never! ;]
[02:06] <l23twire> I'm looking for a buddy anyone?
[02:06] <Pelo> sjovan, I did that as well a while back,  I recoded that avi file to mpeg4 first  and then cut that , it worked well
[02:06] <bazhang> iskaldur: best to look at reviews (hardware reviews) for that
[02:06] <AutoMatriX> which is the best method to synchronise an outlook express and an evolution address base ?
[02:06] <Dr_willis> iskaldur,  about any of them should work.. I would avoide paying extra $$ for ones with extra features that will not work.  such as enctyption/security/fancy backup buttons
[02:07] <Pelo> l23twire, waht do you mean a buddy ?
[02:07] <sjovan> Pelo: sounds like a solution, but not something i can satisfy with. you se i have a LOT of files to edit, and would just take to long
[02:07] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, there is an import option in the evolution file nemen
[02:08] <rj175> ikonia/
[02:08] <Medved> linuxoutlaws
[02:08] <iskaldur> thanks!
[02:08] <Pelo> sjovan, the only other thing I know is  command line mencoder
[02:08] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, I know the import option, but I want to sycnhronise ;)
[02:08] <rj175> ikonia is this the command u mean
[02:08] <rj175> perl awstats.pl -config=mysite -output -staticlinks > awstats.mysite.html
[02:09] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, there is a #evolution
[02:09] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, tx for that, did'nt know
[02:09] <sjovan> Pelo: yeah, and i can't finde a working gui for that. found this url, but most of the projects are dead :/ http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/projects.html
[02:09] <Pelo> np
[02:10] <Toaster`> does anyone know how to disable subtitles in DVD from the cli in vlc?
[02:10]  * Pelo wonders if sjovan is trying to split that Kamelott torrent into episode chunks 
[02:10] <sjovan> Pelo: but how can you use mencoder to cut for exact points in a movie? you know... keyframes
[02:10] <doctor_thunder> what is the shortcut key that allows me to copy?
[02:10] <sjovan> Pelo: nope, i'm makeing pr0n compos :)
[02:10] <Pelo> sjovan, you'dd need to play the file in avidemux to note the splitpoints
[02:10] <Zelta> is there an app to use the zune in ubuntu
[02:10] <sjovan> for torrent sites...
[02:10] <Zelta> ?
[02:11] <yuri_> my automounter died. I think it may have been fuseiso or something related to acetoneiso. manually editing fstab works.
[02:11] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, are you sure about the name of the chanel ?
[02:11] <sjovan> Pelo: yeah, i could do that. can you help me out with the command then?`or maby give me a url to a good howto?
[02:11] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, I was, until now
[02:11] <guglielmo> ciao
[02:11] <linkmaster03> yeah pelo nobody is in #evolution lol
[02:12] <sjovan> Pelo: what's kamelott btw?
[02:12] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, I could swear there was one a few months ago
[02:12] <KOJV2> What is a Friend Attack and (if it's just offline messaging) why is it named that?
[02:12] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, seems vaporised
[02:12] <KOJV2> How come Xubuntu has more updates to fetch than Microsoft Windows??
[02:12] <Pelo> sjovan, french tv/comedy about arthur and the round table,  3 - 7 min episodes  100-50 epsiodes per seasons,  5 seeasons out so far,  it is absolutely awesome
[02:13] <Pelo> KOJV2,  *buntu not only update the os, but also the applications
[02:13] <sjovan> Pelo: sounds cool :D yeah, that could use some editing :)
[02:14] <yuri_> KOJV2: that depends on how you define "many." purely theoretically, more people see the source code for xubuntu, so more people can point out flaws
[02:14] <KOJV2> Pelo: ah. So, how many of the 122 updates were for the system?
[02:14] <Pelo> sjovan, I actualy spent 3 days cutting it back into 3 min epsiodes,
[02:14] <bazhang> Zelta: using vbox and xp you can: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4679554&postcount=33
[02:14] <rj175> anyone know how to generate the awstats reports?
[02:14] <KOJV2> So what's a good video editor for Ubuntu? Such as VirtualDub?
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, no way for me to tell, , but they are all for things that you have installed
[02:15] <KOJV2> Hmm, VD is available for Ubuntu, no?
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, avidemux
[02:15] <Zelta> bazhang: ah, need windows xp D:
[02:15] <KOJV2> Pelo: actually I haven't installed anything, just installed off a live cd.
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, ifi it is installed, get the updates,  they are fixes and security
[02:16] <KOJV2> Pelo: I see.
[02:16] <Geoffrey2> KOJV2: Xubuntu automatically installs a number of common applications for you
[02:16] <KOJV2> Geoffrey2: yes I know. :)
[02:16] <unop> KOJV2, it's really pointless comparing microsoft windows to anything linux.  microsoft windows does not evolve as much or as fast as most linux distros, every minute of everyday, thousands of people are updating distros to add functionality, improve security, operability, etc - the same cannot be said for windows
[02:17] <KOJV2> Is there any way to make Thunderbird or another Ubuntu mail application use my Vista Mail boxes without disrupting their structure? So that I can check my mail on both platforms without exporting/importing as I switch between OSs.
[02:17] <VoidedCheck> unop, sounds like a comparison  :P
[02:17] <sjovan> Pelo: found this guide, but will it hit the keyframes? http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=trim_or_split_with_mencoder <--- seconds doesn't look acurate enough. can't you specify with frame?
[02:17] <KOJV2> unop: oh. And I was stupid enough to believe there were thousands of people in Redmond and all over the world, working every minute of every day to improve Microsoft products... :S
[02:18] <Pelo> sjovan, that's a bit over my head honestly
[02:18] <bazhang> KOJV2: you have an actual question or just wanting to chat
[02:18] <MrSteve> so.. uhm, how do i get window switching in 3d ?
[02:18] <sjovan> Pelo: k, but thanx for trying. guess i have a lot of reading to do
[02:18] <sjovan> :)
[02:18] <Pelo> sjovan, best of luck ,
[02:18] <Pelo> I'm off , later folks
[02:19] <MrSteve> thanks Pelo
[02:19] <KOJV2> YEs bazhang, I posted it just a few moments ago; Is there any way to make Thunderbird or another Ubuntu mail application use my Vista Mail boxes without disrupting their structure? So that I can check my mail on both platforms without exporting/importing as I switch between OSs.
[02:19] <Bassetts_> hi, I am trying to resize my / partition but obviously it is locked in gparted, will I need the livecd or is it possible to just unmount / for gparted?
[02:19] <MrSteve> bazhang:  -- I DID it!  Got Unetbootin and Ubuntu
[02:19] <yuri_> Q: in my session manager, how do i make an app load in the background? for example my rss reader pops up when i start ubuntu, but i want it to start minimized in the tray. is there a "-silent" command, or something similar?
[02:20] <unop> KOJV2, i was making a point about the speed at which updates are deployed with regards to linux, it's continually evolving unlike some counterparts
[02:20] <bazhang> KOJV2: use Vista mailboxes? from within a running Vista? while running ubuntu? sounds funny but seriously doubt it
[02:20] <bazhang> MrSteve: nice work
[02:20] <MrSteve> scary stuff
[02:21] <MrSteve> But, well worth the ability to get it
[02:21] <KOJV2> unop: I wouldn't say MS softs aren't evolving... I get like ten updates every month just for Windows and Office. Anyhow, let's leave it at that and focus on my possibilities of doing most of my daily work in Xubuntu. :)
[02:21] <KOJV2> bazhang: no, I mean I want to access my Vista Mail .dbx files natively from Ubuntu.
[02:21] <MrSteve> my windows wobble, and fade
[02:21] <MrSteve> lol
[02:21] <unop> KOJV2, you did ask why there were so many updates -- and i was pointing out why there were so many updates :) no flame-war intended, eh
[02:22] <MrSteve> can you shake your windows around?
[02:22] <KOJV2> unop: surely not. I'm just keen on discussing in general. :)
[02:22] <bazhang> KOJV2: likely not possible; funny question though
[02:22] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:22] <unop> KOJV2, as am i (if you are implying i was doing any different)
[02:23] <KOJV2> bazhang: perhaps I could migrate to Thunderbird @ Windows and use the same boxes both on Windows and Ubuntu??
[02:23] <bazhang> best to chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic KOJV
[02:24] <KOJV> bazhang: ehm... that wasn't chit-chat, it was an actual question.
[02:25] <MrSteve> Personally, I want to thank ALL the Helpers and Ops in this Room..and Certainly think that you should get more than thanks..(but I am poor) So, Thank You, and Kudos for what you do!
[02:25] <KOJV> If I right click in Pigdin and want to abort the right-click-menu, I have to left-click twice... is there any way to fix that?
[02:25] <Stroganoff> KOJV should be working. just symlink your Thunderbird/Profiles folder to your ntfs mount
[02:26] <KOJV> Stroganoff: what does symlink mean?
[02:26] <Stroganoff> !symlink | KOJV
[02:26] <ubotu> KOJV: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:26] <dfmr> What can be the reason why the same cd with ubuntu 7.10 server boots on one computer and doesn't boot on another one?
[02:27] <Stroganoff> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink
[02:27] <Stroganoff> dfmr acpi=off noapic nodma etc?
[02:28] <Masochist> dfmr, one is not set to boot from CD in the bios settings?
[02:29] <MrGnu> Any suggestions?  regarding my Kde failed start up situation?
[02:29] <dfmr> but the menu with items like "start ubuntu" "command line" etc doesn't pop up. And other cd boot without any problems
[02:29] <cirkit|lappy> For some reason im unable to play dvd movies even though libdvdcss, gstreamer, xine, mplayer, vlc are installed.
[02:29] <MrGnu> I am reluctant to do a a apt remove on it,
[02:29] <KOJV> Okay, thanks stroganoff!
[02:29] <Masochist> dfmr, does any part of the CD show up?
[02:29] <dfmr> no
[02:30] <Masochist> check your bios settings.
[02:30] <Masochist> make sure boot from CD is the first option,
[02:30] <dfmr> but for exmaple windows cd starts without any problems
[02:31] <dfmr> so I assume that bios settings are ok
[02:31] <Masochist> oh.
[02:31] <Masochist> haven'ta  clue then.
[02:31] <bazhang> dfmr: sounds like a bad burn, iso burned as data, didnt check md5 sum or burned on poor quality media
[02:31] <KOJV> So, where do I get Wine?
[02:32] <dfmr> but it starts on another computer?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !wine | KOJV
[02:32] <ubotu> KOJV: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:32] <bazhang> dfmr: then you may want to try the alternate cd
[02:32] <KOJV> Thanks Dr_willis!
[02:32] <dfmr> alternate cd of ubuntu 7.10 server?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> the server only has an anternative cd.
[02:33] <dfmr> wow didnt know that
[02:33] <dfmr> thanks guys
[02:33] <bazhang> ah right server my bad
[02:33] <sarthor> Hi, i am using ubutnu gutsy, i want to confiugre pppoe server on gutsy, how can i, i am not an expert.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> desktop = live cd with gui. Server cd/alternative installer = text based installer
[02:35] <sarthor> Hi, i am using ubutnu gutsy, i want to confiugre pppoe server on gutsy, how can i, i am not an expert. need some howto.
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> -
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> This server was created Thu Mar  6 20:45:20 UTC 2008
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> -
[02:36] <RoxanneM> hey guys , im having a hard time restoring grub after a new XP install, would someone be able to hel p me for a second>?
[02:36] <bazhang> !grub | RoxanneM
[02:36] <ubotu> RoxanneM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:37] <bosanac> I am running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i need some program like " Virtual DJ On Windows OS " but i need it for LINUX can some1 help me please?
[02:37] <KOJV> Anyone got an apt-link to an Xubuntu respitory where I can download Wine? Thanks!
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> could you be more specific?
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> what does it do?
[02:38] <marckie> run Virtualbox bosanac
[02:38] <Lynet> sarthor: http://www.freeantennas.com/PPPoE-Server-HOWTO.html looks promising
[02:38] <bosanac> marckie: i dont understand
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> KOJV, http://winehq.org - use their repo
[02:38] <marckie> !Virtualbox
[02:38] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:38] <yuri_> bosanac: check out rosegarden
[02:38] <linkmaster03> when is the party bosanac lol
[02:38] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:38] <marckie> bosanac: !Virtualbox
[02:38] <linkmaster03> you asked the same thing hours ago
[02:38] <bosanac> ok :D
[02:38] <bosanac> thx
[02:38] <MrGnu> any ideas?
[02:38] <RoxanneM> bazhang: im using that tut. but it doesnt seem to work.... i typed in this line "setup (hd0)" andit gives me the error--Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:39] <dfmr> Dr_willis, ubuntu.com says "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer." Are you sure that server version has an alternate cd as well?
[02:39] <yuri_> bosanac: that's midi mixing software, fairly advanced
[02:39] <marckie> for my windoze needs I just use Virtualbox
[02:39] <bosanac> yuri_: how to install it can you tell me PLEASE ?
[02:39] <marckie> Though I rarely boot up windoze in it
[02:39] <arvind_khadri> bosanac, you want to do some DJing right??
[02:39] <kkserasera> \join #books
[02:39] <marckie> !Parallels
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <KOJV> Thanks Daisuke_Ido!
[02:40] <yuri_> bosanac: in a terminal, type in sudo apt-get install rosegarden
[02:40] <marckie> !Parallel
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <marckie> !CANoe
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canoe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <arvind_khadri> bosanac, djplay is the software is the thing you should be lookng for
[02:41] <yuri_> Q: will pulseaudio kill alsa, or does it work in tandem with it?
[02:41] <DNC_Forever> !IRC
[02:41] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:42] <dfmr> Is there any alternate version of Ubuntu 7.10 Server?
[02:42] <marckie> is there a java developer here?
[02:42] <zero-cool> i am java developer
[02:42] <arvind_khadri> dfmr, what does that mean...you only get a alternative cd to install
[02:42] <marckie> there's nobody online in #ubuntu-java
[02:42] <MrSteve> how to change the hostname of the Install via bash?
[02:42] <DNC_Forever> !HTML
[02:42] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[02:43] <zero-cool> i am java developer
[02:43] <Kleidersack> MrSteve: hostname
[02:43] <marckie> hi zero-cool
[02:43] <zero-cool> hy
[02:43] <MrSteve> really?  er, wow
[02:43] <zero-cool> yes i like java
[02:43] <marckie> im studying java right now and need all the resources i can get
[02:43] <dfmr> I don't get it. So whats the difference between these two?
[02:43] <DNC_Forever> !IT
[02:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:43] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: you may also need to edit /etc/hosts
[02:43] <zero-cool> you searching ide?
[02:44] <zero-cool> i develop in netbeans
[02:44] <dfmr> arvind_khadri, but is it available for server or desktop only?
[02:45] <Kleidersack> How can I manage to boot with Grub installed on sda5 (logical volume)?
[02:45] <marckie> i already have netbeans
[02:45] <arvind_khadri> dfmr, for both
[02:45] <marckie> just wondering if there are java dev in ubuntu
[02:45] <zero-cool> netbeans is very fast
[02:45] <marckie> and if it is active
[02:45] <marckie> yeah its fast
[02:45] <zero-cool> self compiler is very fast
[02:45] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, grub should show up when you boot
[02:45] <Kleidersack> marckie: you eclipse could install eclipse
[02:45] <Dr_willis> dfmr,  i said the server cd - uses the text installer. since it has no X on it.. it dosent need a 'anternative isntaller cd' since it allready IS using the alternative/text installer.
[02:45] <RoxanneM> bazhang:  can you have a look at that grub tutorial there, is the line "grub> setup (hd0) #Hit <Enter> key "- correct? or should it be (setup (hd0,1)
[02:45] <marckie> though in our class we prefer textbased ide --i use gedit
[02:45] <marckie> then compile it in terminal
[02:45] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: unforunataly not...
[02:46] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, are you sure the grub installed??
[02:46] <zero-cool> I am from croatia you
[02:46] <zero-cool> ?
[02:46] <marckie> i haven't tried eclipse Kleidersack in ubuntu
[02:46] <marckie> i heard its slow
[02:46] <dfmr> Dr_willis, ok now i get it Thanks
[02:46] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox keep playlists?
[02:46] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: I just recieve a message, that no partition is marked as active. I installed grub to (hd0,5)...
[02:46] <marckie> im from the philippines zero-cool
[02:47] <zero-cool> yes but eclipse is oriented on web app
[02:47] <marckie> i see
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i never had luck with those methods,feel they(grub) have changed something
[02:47] <marckie> but we havent gone there yet
[02:47] <Kleidersack> zero-cool: Sorry? Why ?
[02:47] <marckie> we're still in the basics
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, of issue fdisk -l
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> !paste | Kleidersack
[02:47] <ubotu> Kleidersack: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:47] <marckie> I'm studying so that I can contribute in the community
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, they paste the output over the site
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> !ot | marckie,
[02:48] <ubotu> marckie,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:48] <bliffle> only a couple days to 8.04 release - where's best ISO torrent?
[02:49] <zero-cool> i am from croatia you guys
[02:49] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: sorry, windows running... But I can tell you my layout: 1st prim: EISA (Media Player of Samsung), 2nd prim. WIndow XP, 3rd 8 MB reserved for Vista, 4th extended 4th 20GB ext3 with Ubuntu 6th 20GB NTFS for Data
[02:49] <Zelta> !hardy | bliffle
[02:49] <ubotu> bliffle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:49] <danage> how do i list all active kernel drivers?
[02:49] <zero-cool> lsmod
[02:49] <RoxanneM> could someone give me a hand trying to get grub reinstalled?
[02:49] <thoreauputic_> bliffle: uh, the torrent file will be there in the releases on the day
[02:50] <Kleidersack> RoxanneM: grub-install?
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, we need to check the bootable flags ...so you need to be in ubuntu...do you have some live cd??
[02:50] <api984> whats with grub??
[02:50] <Flannel> !grub | RoxanneM
[02:50] <ubotu> RoxanneM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> RoxanneM, hi
[02:50] <Flannel> arvind_khadri, Kleidersack, bootable flags don't mean anything to Linux, or even XP.
[02:50] <zero-cool> just put ubuntu cd and mount hardrive
[02:50] <RoxanneM> Kleidersack:  i just reinstalled windows, and im looking at that tutorial that Flannel just posted up... but it doesnt seem to work
[02:50] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: at the moment 2nd part is active. when i set sda5 active, the mbr-code tells, no partition is active.
[02:50] <api984> its on MBR
[02:50] <Mega_byte> hi, does anyone know, please, what is the equivalent of PREROUTING, in ipfw (ipfirewall)
[02:51] <Flannel> RoxanneM: What are you having problems with? since it's worked for many others.
[02:51] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, doesnt that mean that there is a OS in that partition
[02:51] <bliffle> thanx guys.
[02:51] <a1fa> hello.. can you not enable DMA on SATA drive?
[02:51] <RoxanneM> the line "setup (hd0)
[02:51] <zero-cool> have somebody from Croatia
[02:51] <KOJV> How can I make Pidign login to more IRC channels at start?
[02:51] <zero-cool> ?
[02:51] <api984> yup
[02:51] <api984> i am from croatia
[02:51] <a1fa> api984: seljak
[02:51] <a1fa> :p
[02:51] <zero-cool> hello api
[02:51] <api984> bok
[02:51] <api984> sta ima
[02:51] <zero-cool> i am from zagreb you
[02:51] <a1fa> bok seljaci :p
[02:51] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: linux doesn't care about boot flags :)
[02:52] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: No, the bootable flag is ignored except by a handful of old OSes (DOS, for instance)
[02:52] <api984> PULA
[02:52] <a1fa> SPLIT
[02:52] <marckie> sorry
[02:52] <zero-cool> evo dosao malo na ubuntu kanal posto spavaju ovi moji hahari
[02:52] <api984> a1fa sta ima
[02:52] <marckie> just felt the love
[02:52] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, oh ok
[02:52] <Flannel> RoxanneM: what about it isn't working?  What errors does it give you?
[02:52] <zero-cool> decki vi ste linuxasi
[02:52] <zero-cool> ?
[02:52] <api984> a sta ces
[02:52] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: possibly older versions of windows need it, don't know
[02:52] <a1fa> drkam kitu.. cant ebale DMA on my 500GB SATA drive
[02:52] <zero-cool> jel idete na razmjenu vjestina
[02:52] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[02:52] <RoxanneM> grub> setup (hd0)
[02:52] <RoxanneM> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:52] <zero-cool> u st
[02:52] <api984> ja sam duze vrijeme ali ga koristim virtualno
[02:52] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, the grub doesnt show up???
[02:52] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: Grub not, but MBR code does.
[02:52] <Flannel> !hr | api984
[02:52] <ubotu> api984: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr
[02:52] <zero-cool> imate razmjenu vjestina u st
[02:52] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: ...
[02:53] <api984> ajmo na ubuntu hr
[02:53] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: no! only when i install it to the mbr.
[02:53] <zero-cool> ajmo
[02:53] <zero-cool> koji je kanal
[02:53] <zero-cool> samo ubuntuhr
[02:53] <zero-cool> ?
[02:53] <api984> #ubuntu-hr
[02:53] <FloodBot1> zero-cool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <Flannel> zero-cool: /join #ubuntu-hr
[02:53] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, well thats what you need to do
[02:53] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: for the primary partitions....
[02:53]  * KOJV wonders how on Earth he came to #ubuntu-jibberish...
[02:53] <NateF> hay guys im back, i finally got passed the ata error's, but now i see the blank blue screen with white lines at the buttom, and now its kinda frozen, is it installing now?
[02:53] <a1fa> Why cant you enable DMA on SATA drive?
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: if you install grub on a partition, you have to have a bootloader on the mbr to chinload, at least - is that what you mean?
[02:54] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: ... i suppose, bu i'm not sure
[02:54] <RoxanneM> i really want my ubuntu back :(
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, the grub should be chainloading MBR
[02:54] <RoxanneM> maybe i will just wait for Hardy
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> s/chinload/chainload  :)
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> heh
[02:54] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: Sorry, what do you mean?
[02:55] <Scunizi> alfa, isn't it on be default ?  newer technology and all that.. there's probably no way to turn it off.
[02:55] <ben__> hi,
[02:55] <a1fa> no
[02:55] <a1fa> its not on
[02:55] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: theoraticaly the mbr-code searches for the active partition and chainloads...
[02:55] <a1fa> and I cant turn it on
[02:55] <NateF> guys im stuck on a blue screen while trying to install ubuntu
[02:55] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: or haven't i got it false?
[02:55] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, well you need to write the grub above the MBR so that grub can detect everything and actually run....well grub should be on the top of geometry not inside a geometry
[02:56] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: umm, no - you don't needto mark "active"
[02:56] <maco> "active" partitions only matter in windows
[02:56] <KOJV> I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[02:56] <maco> in linux, the bootloader will use whatever partitions it's told to use
[02:56] <Kleidersack> maco: no, defenitly not
[02:56] <NateF> im stuck on a blue screen is ubuntu is loading???
[02:56] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: but then i loose the "active" feature
[02:57] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, active feature of what,you mean a dual boot
[02:57] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: and how does the mbr knows, which bootsector to load?
[02:57] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack:  for example, you can only have one partition marked with the boot flag, but grub can load 2,3 or more OSs on various partitions
[02:57] <gogeta> NateF LOL did you say blue screen
[02:57] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[02:57] <NateF> yes
[02:57] <gogeta> :P
[02:57] <KOJV>  I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[02:57] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub  works in stages - the mbr is just there to connect to the later stages
[02:57] <Flannel> !repeat | KOJV
[02:57] <ubotu> KOJV: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:58] <gogeta> KOJV six??
[02:58] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox keep playlists?
[02:58] <linkmaster03> !patience
[02:58] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:58] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub properly configured can find bootable kernels
[02:58] <NateF> yea, whats a HUGE blue screen mean after selecting the keyboard layout?
[02:58] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: the bios sets the first partition active, when i press the "media button" to power up my laptop... on dell the tools partition is activated by the bios in this way.
[02:59] <IdleOne> NateF: anything on the blue screen?
[02:59] <NateF> no
[02:59] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: it doesn't get to any state - the message i recieve is, that no partition is activated... or no operation system is installed.
[02:59] <NateF> theres a small white line at the bottom
[02:59] <NateF> if i hit enter it ads another white line to the bottom
[02:59] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, have you got ubuntu installed
[03:00] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: "no operation system is installed" sounds like a windows message
[03:00] <IdleOne> NateF: hmm sounds interesting. dont know what it is or what would cause it
[03:00] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: yes, but I always tell the bootloader to install to the os partition.
[03:00] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, as ubuntu auto configures the grub
[03:00] <NateF> lol, do you know if i can send Ubuntu an email or something to tell them about the proablem?
[03:00] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, there you did a mistake,grub is totally different from MBR!!!!!
[03:00] <gogeta> NateF im wondering abought your cds
[03:01] <IdleOne> NateF: this would be the best place to get the problem solved. you can also try searching on the ubuntu forums
[03:01] <NateF> lol, i checked tthe CD's twice
[03:01] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: if you do that with windows ntldr you have to jump through hoops - using grub on the mbr is much better and easier
[03:01] <gogeta> NateFif there not just no good
[03:01] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, how can grub now boot or show up as it wont be called first!!!
[03:01] <Flannel> !bugs | NateF
[03:01] <ubotu> NateF: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[03:01] <NateF> there CD-R's
[03:01] <NateF> ok thanks
[03:01] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: yes, but grub in the mbr doesn't make real sense...
[03:01] <a1fa> damn
[03:01] <IdleOne> NateF: try burning on a brand new cd and see if that helps
[03:01] <gogeta> NateF woa
[03:01] <NateF> a new CD-R or CD+R
[03:02] <IdleOne> NateF: I know that when I have used a cd more then once I always get errors
[03:02] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry?
[03:02] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, oh really those were the official ways though
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF from a new iso
[03:02] <NateF> ok
[03:02] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: yes it does - I explained earlier that only a tiny part of grub goes in the mbr - the rest is later stages
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF compared the md5 to
[03:02] <NateF> well, i have school tomorow, so im going to start the download tehen go to bed
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF make shure its not cruppted
[03:02] <marckie> can anybody change grub visual?
[03:02] <NateF> how do i do the MD5
[03:02] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, how can grub be seen from inside of a geometry ,MBR wont detect anything other that Windows
[03:02] <IdleOne> !md5 | NateF
[03:02] <ubotu> NateF: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:03] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[03:03] <NateF> THANKS ubot!
[03:03] <NateF> is that a bot or a real person?
[03:03] <Starnestommy> NateF: a bot
[03:03] <gogeta> IdleOne he has both a lice cd and server failing
[03:03] <gogeta> IdleOne live
[03:03] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, by default it'splaced there and kicked by windows... but if you place grub to the bootsector of you linux part you can reenable it by setting the linux part active using windows program "diskpart"  without any further tools
[03:03] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: the code in the mbr loads stage 1.5 of grub, or whatever the right number is (I would have to look it up)
[03:03] <MrGnu> WEll I wish I was, anyone know the answer?>
[03:03] <IdleOne> NateF: how new is this pc?
[03:04] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: Ah well that may be so - I don't know that method
[03:04] <NateF> umm 2001
[03:04] <IdleOne> NateF: ok not hardware issue then
[03:05] <gogeta> IdleOne is if his hd is craping out
[03:05] <NateF> well, ill re download and burn tomorow i got school tomorow :(
[03:05] <adam__> hello, i am thinking of upgrading to the beta, and i have a toshiba with the weird graphics (intel) and i was wondering if i will have to do the bios hack to get the graphics to work correctly?
[03:05] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, grub boots first not the MBR
[03:05] <gogeta> IdleOne it was a vfs ata error
[03:05] <NateF> no
[03:05] <NateF> the ata errors are gone now
[03:05] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: sounds like an inflexible method - what if you have say, a triple boot?
[03:05] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: MBR code is executed first... if grub is in the mbr, then it's executed.
[03:05] <gogeta> NateF if thats true start the live cd :)
[03:05] <Scunizi> adam__: without knowing specifically what the card is.. there won't be anyone answering.
[03:06] <bmk789> is a load of 10 not good?
[03:06] <NateF> lol, i did, the live CD gets stuck
[03:06] <caveymaso1> is there any way of having diff wallpapers on each of my desktops?
[03:06] <adam__> Scunizi, its the intel 945
[03:06] <felipe__> !tell me about grub
[03:06] <gogeta> NateF then thers still a issue
[03:06] <IdleOne> NateF: at what point does it get stuck?
[03:06] <IdleOne> !grub | felipe_
[03:06] <ubotu> felipe_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, yeah thats what am saying ...but how the hell can MBR see the grub when it doesnt what a ext3 FS is
[03:06] <NateF> umm, when i go to install, the status bar freezes
[03:06] <Scunizi> adam__: I think that should be supported now and Hardy should be even better.
[03:06] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: only a tiny part of grub is installed to the mbr - the rest is where you put it :)
[03:06] <adam__> Scunizi, thank you, i will go ahead and do it tomorrow, as i will surf tonight...
[03:06] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: now, I have to use a bootloader, but bootloader in the mbr is a bit messy... especially for dell,ibm and verious laptops..
[03:07] <IdleOne> NateF: how long have you waited for it to unstick?
[03:07] <Scunizi> adam__: are you on the live cd now?
[03:07] <NateF> umm, about 25-26 hours
[03:07] <adam__> Scunizi, no, i am on ubuntu ultimate 1.6
[03:07] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: the part in the mbr knows just enough to find grub - the rest happens after that
[03:07] <gogeta> NateF lol yea stuck
[03:07] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: mbr doesn't care the fs - it just looks for an active partition and loads the first (boot) sector.
[03:07] <NateF> lol
[03:07] <Scunizi> adam__: ah.. ok.. so are you going to beta of ultimate?
[03:07] <IdleOne> NateF: yeah that should be long enough. lol. ok go to bed and work on it tomorrow. school is more important
[03:07] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: grub is pretty smart actually :)
[03:07] <gogeta> NateF i would md5 those isos make shure something isnt wrong there
[03:07] <adam__> Scunizi, no, im going to the plain ubuntu beta, 8.04
[03:08] <NateF> ok
[03:08] <NateF> well ill redownload then check all the info
[03:08] <NateF> ill be back on tomorow
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, thats what am trying to prove
[03:08] <IdleOne> night
[03:08] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub doesn't look for "active" - it finds kernels
[03:08] <Scunizi> adam__: you might consider just installing gutsy and when hardy is released (and fully functional) just upgrade through synaptic.. it will prompt you for the upgrade.
[03:08] <gogeta> NateF sometimes they go bad realy the case with ones that have been there a wile
[03:09] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: in fact if you have it on a floppy you can run it that way and it will show a list
[03:09] <cirkit|lappy> I've installed libdvdcss and win32codecs, I am unable to play a copyrighted DVD movie. Medibuntu repository has been added with the necessary software installed. Has anyone seen this issue before?
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, nah, i want to get off of the unsupported ultimate
[03:09] <NateF> ok
[03:09] <gogeta> NateF or even your download manager can do it
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, and build it myself
[03:09] <Scunizi> adam__: gotcha
[03:09] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, but my problem is to let the mbr load grub, because it seems not to work with logical drives, but works fine with primary partitions.
[03:09] <NateF> how do i make sure the download manager is fine?
[03:09] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: alternatively you point it at another bootloader to chainload
[03:09] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox save playlists?
[03:09] <NateF> im using FireFoz
[03:09] <NateF> FireFox*
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, there are alot of things on this ultimate, that i dont need, use, or have a use for... so i want to dump it,streamline an install, and start fresh, windows free
[03:09] <gogeta> NateF yea i had ff cruppt one once
[03:10] <Scunizi> adam__: :)
[03:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I have no idea what you mean - grub finds logical drives just fine
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: now, if nothing works i'll let the windows bootloader to chainload grub; a bit messy...
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: but i need grub to be found.
[03:10] <_Net> Ubuntu comes with GCC compiler right?
[03:10] <adam__> Scunizi, thanks for your help i do appreciate it, and will see ya later,
[03:10] <Scunizi> adam__: c-ya
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: i don't want put grub to the mbr.
[03:11] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: how on earth did you complicate matters so much? If you just follow the standard ways grub works fine
[03:11] <drewby> Hello, are there any tools available to ubuntu to determine whether or not a video is encoded in MPEG4 - Part 10 versus MPEG4 - Part 2 (in other words H.264 versus Divx)?
[03:11] <gogeta> Kleidersack supergrub live cd/floppy
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> _Net, yeah
[03:11] <gogeta> Kleidersack you can rebuild it with that easly
[03:11] <cirkit|lappy> Nevermind it works, had to re-insert the disc after installing the necessary files.
[03:11] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I cannot see what the problem is with having grub on mbr
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, :) thats whats so messy
[03:11] <Synclair> hello
[03:12] <gogeta> Kleidersack w same disk you c an even restore the mbr to stock windows
[03:12] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: unfortunately it's not so simple if you want to use dell and ibm computers with it's own tools-partitions
[03:12] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, i think #grub would be more interested in what you are doing
[03:12] <gogeta> Kleidersack well i told you how to fix it
[03:13] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: ah, so dell do something stupid with their partitions. I see :)
[03:13] <caveymaso1> is there any way of having different wallpapers on each of my desktops?
[03:13] <Kleidersack> gogeta: the problem is to load grub from an logical drive... i have rebuilded it several times.
[03:13] <drewby> How can I determine the codec of a given video file?
[03:13] <Synclair> hey I have a question that it's server related
[03:13] <gogeta> Kleidersack what you do is backup the dell mbr to a safe place
[03:13] <nanotrader> are there any communities of france here??
[03:13] <TangentBuntu> how do I change the home directory of a user via command line?
[03:13] <gogeta> Kleidersack thers stuff out there that can do that
[03:13] <caveymaso1> lol they need to do something about this chanel its getting to big
[03:14] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: not really - the bios can set the tools partition active if you ran in trouble... but unfortunatelly it only works with a standard mbr code, because grub ignores the active flag
[03:14] <Scunizi> Synclair: ask...away..
[03:14] <Starnestommy> TangentBuntu: sudo usermod -d /new/home/dir username
[03:14] <nanotrader> please, someone, i want to tlak to french people
[03:14] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: How do you suppose the millions of people running linux on Dell seem to manage to configure grub so easily?
[03:14] <TangentBuntu> omg usermod
[03:14] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:14] <Synclair> okey, I have a server running ubuntu 7.10
[03:14] <Starnestommy> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <ubotu> nanotrader: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:14] <Scunizi> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <arvind_khadri> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <TangentBuntu> Starnestommy: thank you
[03:14] <gogeta> Kleidersack you can backup a mbr
[03:14] <caveymaso1> diff wallpapers anyone?
[03:14] <Scunizi> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <Starnestommy> TangentBuntu: you may need to move the stuff in that user's old home directory to the new one
[03:15] <Kleidersack> gogeta: but i need to run it each time before running in grub
[03:15] <gogeta> Kleidersack err no
[03:15] <Synclair> the thing is that I need my server to accept people logging in from a certain domain.. It's an ADS (Active Directory) and the thing is that I need to bind samba to the domain
[03:15] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: loosing the possibility to activate the tools partition by bios... the same for lenovo reparation button afaik
[03:15] <gogeta> Kleidersack grub will setup for other oses
[03:16] <Kleidersack> gogeta: but ignore the active flag
[03:16] <Synclair> for example, if a client wants to download or upload certain files to the server, he would have to input his user and password from the domain to the system (then the server would authenticate with the domain controller)
[03:16] <Scunizi> Synclair: so it's really an Active Directory thing.. someone here might know.. or over at #ubuntu-server .. the guys that deal with this all the time.
[03:16] <TangentBuntu> Starnestommy: it's just to give someone an FTP account to the webserver
[03:16] <gogeta> Kleidersack so
[03:16] <Synclair> cool
[03:16] <Synclair> thx
[03:16] <Scunizi> np
[03:16] <TangentBuntu> no files have been there in the first place, Starnestommy
[03:16] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: hmm - OK. I only run linux so I guess a lot of this is not relevant to me - have you tried googling for the problem ?
[03:16] <gogeta> Kleidersack well i have a suggestion for you
[03:16] <RequinB4> How can I make control+alt+delte open my system moniter
[03:17] <gogeta> Kleidersack a wubi install
[03:17] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, but don't have enough keyword to get a smart result
[03:17] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:17] <gogeta> Kleidersack it uses both the windows partation and boot loader
[03:17] <Scunizi> RequinB4: you ought to have it pull up a graphic that says  by by MS
[03:17] <caveymaso1> has anyone been successfull with multiple wallpapers? like diff wallpapers on each workspace?
[03:17] <Synclair> no response @ #ubuntu-server
[03:17] <Kleidersack> gogeta: you mean a bootloader?
[03:18] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: have you tried ubuntu+dell+tools+partition+grub  for example ?
[03:18] <gogeta> Kleidersack http://wubi-installer.org/ its built in 8.04 but for 7.10 go there
[03:18] <Scunizi> RequinB4: seriously.. why not just put the sys monitor on the upper bar of the screen?
[03:18] <RequinB4> Scunizi - Maybe i'll do that on another machine :P  But i'm fixing my freind's laptop and he wanted an easily accessable system moniter
[03:18] <zutme> i have an onboard soundcard and a discrete soundcard. how can i choose which one I want to use? It defaulted to my onboard for some reason
[03:18] <RequinB4> Scunizi - security, i think
[03:18] <gogeta> Kleidersack all you need to do is restore the windows boot sector
[03:18] <Kleidersack> gogeta: i have already installed ubuntu
[03:19] <Scunizi> RequinB4: don't know how that would make any difference..
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack well you dont wanna mod it
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack this would work for you
[03:19] <Kleidersack> gogeta: no, not really... my windows bootsector is fine... but i don't want grub in the mbr...
[03:19] <RequinB4> Scunizi - oh, you mean on the toolbar?  That would be last ditch
[03:19] <Scunizi> RequinB4: right click bar.. select "Add to Panel" and attach it.. then you're done..
[03:19] <Scunizi> yep
[03:19] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I just tried that and got some hits that look as if they could help
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack readit does not use grub
[03:20] <RequinB4> Scunizi - THanks for the suggestion, but it would still be nice to get the keyboard shortcut
[03:20] <longmanzz> hi
[03:20] <longmanzz> yo
[03:20] <highway> zutme, can't you just disable the on-board sound card in the bios?
[03:21] <Kleidersack> gogeta: as far as i can see, wubi is just an installer... isn't it?
[03:21] <Scunizi> RequinB4: there ought to be a way to put it in System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts.. but there's lots of stuff there and no "Add" button
[03:21] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: another google search for you:  ntldr+boot+linux+howto
[03:21] <Scunizi> RequinB4: maybe in the conf file for that app.
[03:21] <gogeta> Kleidersack ir installes in a image file inside windows and uses the windows boot loader
[03:21] <zutme> highway, i suppose I could, but that's kind of a hack isn't it? I should be able to select it somehow wouldn't you think?
[03:21] <RequinB4> Scunizi - yeah, i asked here because the one thing i'm dissapointed about ubuntu was a lack of GUI keyboart shortcut changes
[03:21] <lolz> hey there. i'm running ubuntu from the boot disk and i am considering formating my current windows hd and using ubuntu full-time, cus it is much better. my question is, me and a friend are coding a website, ubuntu can edit .html / .php files correct?
[03:21] <gogeta> Kleidersack no partations or grub
[03:22] <danage> anybody have good instructions on how to compile hostap drivers and modprobe them into the kernel? i don't know how to compile JUST the drivers...
[03:22] <gogeta> Kleidersack your only other option are install it on the bootsector a floppy or a usb drive
[03:22] <highway> there might be another way, but if you don't need the on-board, why leave it on?
[03:22] <thoreauputic_> lolz: of course :) Any number of editors can handle those
[03:22] <fyrmedic> lolz yup no problem. I think the package is Quanta or bluefish. Or you can use a content management system and not worry about it.
[03:22] <lolz> is there a application, alike dreamweaver for ubunut?
[03:23] <Kleidersack> gogeta: oh, nice idea... but my problem is to get grub running, because i don't have windows on each computer to install... but there are plenty dell / lenovo / other manufactures using the active-feature...
[03:23] <gogeta> Kleidersack if you wanna avoide the primary mbr
[03:23] <lolz> Ubuntu*.
[03:23] <thoreauputic_> lolz: closest would be kompozer
[03:23] <lolz> okay.
[03:23] <thoreauputic_> !info kompozer hardy
[03:23] <Scunizi> RequinB4: check this out.. http://blog.laptopmag.com/keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux-success
[03:23] <ubotu> kompozer (source: kompozer): Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.10-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 8438 kB, installed size 26008 kB
[03:23] <lolz> if i do pation my current hd. how big would you say teh smallest i could get away with ubuntu?
[03:23] <Kleidersack> gogeta: active-flag works fine for primary partitions...
[03:23] <lolz> in gigabytes.
[03:23] <gogeta> Kleidersack just dont get it do you
[03:23] <danage> anybody have good instructions on how to compile hostap drivers and modprobe them into the kernel? i don't know how to compile JUST the drivers...
[03:23] <longmanzz> hi
[03:24] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:24] <gogeta> Kleidersack linux does not need activ
[03:24] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: have you actually tried the searches I suggested?
[03:24] <Kleidersack> gogeta: the active flag tells the standard mbr code, which bootsector to load...
[03:24] <lolz> what's a good (preferably low) hd size for ubuntu?
[03:24] <gogeta> Kleidersack you should be able to bot any partation with grub even recovery
[03:24] <danage> lolz: 2gb
[03:24] <gogeta> boot
[03:25] <lolz> will 2gb do?
[03:25] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: you are approaching this from a totally non-linux angle
[03:25] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: searched for "mbr grub extended partition" before asking here...
[03:25] <lolz> alright thanks a lot guyz.
[03:25] <lolz> cya.
[03:25] <RequinB4> thanks much Scunizi
[03:25] <Scunizi> RequinB4: np.. :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: an extended partition is just a container
[03:25] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry, but i'm not going to write my own mbr bootloader...
[03:25] <gogeta> Kleidersack just point it to the partation and hit enter
[03:25] <sunyore> whois anthony
[03:26] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: *cough* who said you needed to?
[03:26] <gogeta> Kleidersack you cant add the line eh /dev/hda3
[03:26] <tyger> does anyone know how to install colinux in ubuntu?
[03:26] <longmanzz> hi
[03:26] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: don't bother, he has a hearing difficulty, poor chap
[03:26] <gogeta> thoreauputic_: hes fearing losing acess to recovery partations on a dell
[03:26] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: that's the OSS angle - you need something and can't find it? So just develope it :-)
[03:27] <sjovan> can anyone recomend a prog to finde the keyframes in a avi? avidemux sucks teh balls in linux
[03:27] <Kleidersack> gogeta: not only on dell - many manufactures works with such things.
[03:27] <gogeta> Kleidersack i give up bro
[03:27] <gogeta> !grub
[03:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:27] <gogeta> Kleidersack read
[03:27] <longmanzz> hi
[03:27] <amenado> http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/PartTables.htm  <-- mbr break down to bytes
[03:28] <longmanzz> hi
[03:28] <Xaroon> hi
[03:29] <gogeta> Kleidersack if you cant get that windows thinking tossed i hate to say it linux is not for you
[03:29] <gogeta> Kleidersack grub can load any partation
[03:29] <longmanzz> hi
[03:29] <ng0n> where do you guys go for VISTA help.  I know.  It sux.  Just curious.
[03:29] <gogeta> !windows
[03:29] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:30] <Kleidersack> gogeta: I know... I used grub and lilo to switch master/slave harddisks and so on... but there is no feature (afaik) to tell grub to look for the active flag... or i haven't found it in the documentation
[03:30] <gogeta> Kleidersack omg
[03:30] <gogeta> Kleidersack you dont need to
[03:30] <Kleidersack> gogeta: what?
[03:30] <gogeta> ignored
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ng0n, check /dev/null for windows help :\
[03:31] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: your problem is this: you already think you know how it is done, and are therefore deaf to any help that contradicts your preconceived idea
[03:31] <Kleidersack> on my old pc i let grub run windows on the second harddisk simulating it was the first (swapping)
[03:31] <gogeta> that guy has no concept of bootloader
[03:32] <Poe> Have a question... when I select ubuntu from my bootload after a fresh install it goes to a black screen... and the only way I can get it going is a safe boot and launch gdm through the command
[03:32] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: that sound you hear is hundreds of keyboards adding you to the /ignore list, I'm afraid...
[03:33] <Poe> anyone have an idea where I should go?
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Kleidersack, just because that's how you did it before doesn't mean that's how it's done now, gogeta told you where to look for help with grub.  i use a dell, it works fine, end of discussion
[03:33] <Poe> I mean where I should start
[03:33] <ricanelite> why is that the windows are so big in Ubuntu? Like I have the right screen resolution which is 1280x720 like I have notice that in windows vista, xp there are so much smaller
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Poe, at this point, no one wants me telling them where to go, trust me.
[03:34] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido he said his grub is blackscreening lol
[03:34] <Poe> Lol... im sorry?
[03:34] <gogeta> Poe i would check your menu.list
[03:35] <Poe> how and for what gogeta?
[03:35] <gogeta> Poe just sounds like its pointed to a bad spot
[03:35] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: Now, you are telling me to install grub to the mbr, but I don't know how to tell grub to look, for the active flag.
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't need to
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> you were told that too
[03:35] <Poe> should I try a fresh reinstall?
[03:35] <fyrmedic> #homeschool
[03:36] <Poe> this is the first time ive tried to boot it also...
[03:36] <gogeta> Poe boot safemode and looks in /boot/grub
[03:36] <Kleidersack> Daisuke_Ido: can you run your tools partition from bios-menu?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Kleidersack, i can
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> no, not the bios
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> grub picks it up as a bottable partition
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> bootable*
[03:36] <danage> Kleidersack: there are plenty of guides in the ubuntu wiki on how to configure grub
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and works just fine
[03:36] <gogeta> Poe the normel boot should point in the same place without all the options
[03:36] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: that's what I mean about preconceived ideas...
[03:36] <ricanelite> is there a way to make a default window size? for all applications I open?
[03:36] <danage> you should read some, and with the acquired knowledge, ask a qualified question here
[03:37] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido i ran that circle with him to many times
[03:37] <danage> gogeta: do you know a good kernel recompiling guide for ubuntu?
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> gogeta, i'm beginning to see that...
[03:38] <Poe> ok... shouldnt a sucsessful install boot correctly from the beginning?
[03:38] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido: he doesent understand his bios have knothing to do witrh it the bios are doing the same thing grub does change the bot order
[03:38] <gogeta> boot
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> Daisuke_Ido: There are certain people who are sort of human black holes ;)
[03:38] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido and the line makeactiv shhhh
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> thoreauputic_, i'm seeing that as well
[03:40] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido if hes that conserned make a friggen backup if by some mircle 1202 people are wrong
[03:40] <gogeta> >:o
[03:41] <Kleidersack_> thoreauputic_: if something goes wrong with the pc and i can't boot the machine, the dell hotline tells me to run the tools-partition. If something went wrong with the linuix partition I can't do this and they tell me to run there f*** tools first; i want avoid this situation.
[03:42] <gogeta> "slams hjead"
[03:42]  * amenado provides soft pillow to gogeta
[03:42] <bhiggins> users
[03:42] <gogeta> amenado lol any mader and i start swaring
[03:43] <Mex_tux> I need help!! I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and at last I could install the Broadcom driver. My question is: Do I have to type always this --> modprobe bmc43xx in order to make my wireless card work???
[03:43] <gogeta> im saying this one last time grub will load your friggen tools other dell users confermed this aruldy
[03:43] <amenado> Mex_tux-> if you know any other way, let me know.. :P
[03:43] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I rarely give this as a link, but I make an exception occasionally:  http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:44] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ owned
[03:44] <shira> I'm having problems with vinagre. When I use vncviewer, I'm able to connect, but not w/ vinagre. any ideas?
[03:44] <bhiggins> anyone have any luck with soundmax on sony vgn subnotebooks? every other system component works flawlessly in 7.10
[03:44] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Didn't esr declare his allegience with Ubuntu at some point?
[03:45] <xopey> has anyone gotten a bluetooth phone tethered in ubuntu using pppd to dialup?
[03:45] <javb> using ubuntu 7.10, using normal visual effects, it works very nice, but, after a while working, it starts freezing for about 5 - 8 seconds, every 10 - 20 minutes... i disable visual effects, and perfect. Any ideas?
[03:45] <thoreauputic_> mutk: didn't hear much from him since, but yes he switched from Fedora, or so he said at the time
[03:45] <Mex_tux> Is there any way to load a module on startup?
[03:45] <thoreauputic_> mutk: I think he got involved with Linspire
[03:45] <gogeta> Mex_tux yep add it to rc.d
[03:45] <gogeta> cMex_tux or init.d
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> Mex_tux: the Debian Way (TM) is to put it in /etc/modules
[03:46] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ linspire (jump off clif)
[03:46] <Kleidersack_> gogeta: the last time a broken ram caused an unreadable ext3 (so grub couldn't load its menu.lst). I had to restore the standard MBR to make the dell folks statisfied and send me new rams...
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: /etc/modules is a better pot for bootup modules
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> *spot
[03:47] <gogeta> thoreauputic it shure is
[03:47] <sheikpunk> i have a problem... with wireless conection on ubuntu.
[03:47] <gogeta> thoreauputic guess im still mad
[03:47] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: heh :)
[03:47] <sheikpunk> after conection...
[03:48] <sheikpunk> automatic disconect..
[03:48] <cogeno> Has anyone had problems with SD Cards (or any other USB dick) giving false reports of being full?
[03:48] <gogeta> thoreauputicm alsmost makes you wanna to the rm joke
[03:48] <sheikpunk> 1, 2 minutes after conected...
[03:48] <gogeta> do
[03:48] <cogeno> I've tried formatting the card, and Thunar will report that there's something like 1.3GB left, but will still say it's full
[03:49] <sheikpunk> my laptop use chipset native rtl8187
[03:49] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: do you have the permisions to write on it?
[03:49] <sjovan> okay... i just figured out the problem. this is redicules. ---> mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -ss 00:00:16 -endpos 00:16:20 -o "dfadsga.avi" "fadsfa.avi" <---- -endpos command thinks about the new time. so since it's cut from 16 seconds from the start every thing is 16 seconds off. how can i fix this?
[03:49] <sheikpunk> tips?
[03:49] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: no, that one should *never* be done :(
[03:49] <cogeno> Kleidersack_: Yes. It's like I can only put something like 600MB on a 2GB card
[03:49] <gogeta> thoreauputic to him
[03:49] <shira> I'm having problems with vinagre. When I use vncviewer, I'm able to connect, but not w/ vinagre. any ideas?
[03:49] <gogeta> thoreauputic i  think its justfyed
[03:50] <gogeta> cogeno did you partation the card lol
[03:50] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: how many files?
[03:50] <sheikpunk> somebody?
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno you would wanna make it just 1 and format it
[03:51] <Templario> .
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno get all 2gb
[03:51] <cogeno> Gogeta: But it's saying it
[03:51] <cogeno> 's a 2GB partition
[03:51] <cogeno> It still says there's 1.3GB left on the card
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno then its not ful
[03:51] <cogeno> But still says it's full if I try to put anything on it
[03:51] <sheikpunk> :(
[03:51] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: How many files do you want to write on your disk - there are limitations...
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno i would say bad opartation table
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno reformat the card
[03:52] <cogeno> Well, if I use my camera as the reader, I can do whatever I please with it
[03:52] <cogeno> I mean
[03:52] <cogeno> If I record videos onto the SD card witht he camera,
[03:52] <cogeno> It will do so no problem
[03:52] <cogeno> and I've already reformatted the card
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno humm
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno sounds like some weard driver issue
[03:53] <cogeno> and I ahd a similar issue with a 1GB card
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno may be a issue w your reader
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno aka bad buggy driver
[03:54] <cogeno> Tried different installs, tried a different card reader
[03:54] <gogeta> cogeno have you tryed tehering the cam and see
[03:54] <cogeno> ie. It was doing this with the install before I made a bad typo with dd
[03:54] <gogeta> using it as a reader
[03:54] <cogeno> gogeta: I am using the cam as a reader
[03:54] <gogeta> oh
[03:54] <gogeta> cogeno dd error
[03:55] <cogeno> huh?
[03:55] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: try to delete one file create a folder and place other files in this folder...
[03:55] <cogeno> No, I mean the reason I had to reinstall was because I made a typo in dd, overwriting my HD
[03:55] <gogeta> cogeno that can make all kinds of wearnedd
[03:56] <cogeno> I've got 111 files on iyt
[03:56] <cogeno> I'll try the folder thing, though
[03:58] <gogeta> cogeno lol at least you have a real issue that other buy made me wanna go burn down a ms server farm for letting such stupid users pick up a pc >:o
[03:58] <gogeta> guy
[03:59] <gogeta> cogeno i gotta admit im stumped on that
[04:01] <earthmeLon> Anybody know if gnump3d works nicely with the ps3?
[04:02] <gogeta> earthmeLon unsupported
[04:02] <gogeta> earthmeLon thats power pc
[04:02]  * Kleidersack gives gogeta a lighter
[04:02] <gogeta> !ps3
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <gogeta> earthmeLon your goona heave to search around the ps3 linux fouurms or irc
[04:04] <velasco-keltoi> hello guys
[04:04] <gogeta> :)
[04:05] <velasco-keltoi> does anyone know how to import an object file to python and use its functions??
[04:07] <jrib> velasco-keltoi: #python is a more appropriate channel for that question
[04:07] <cogeno> gogeta: what stupid problem
[04:08] <gogeta> +o thoreauputic_  oh no
[04:08] <velasco-keltoi> jrib: sorry... wrong channel
[04:08] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: only to edit the /topic :)
[04:08] <MrSteve> whoa..
[04:08] <gogeta> O:-)
[04:09] <MrSteve> this Ubuntu can do things.. Windows cannot
[04:09] <TangentBuntu> :P
[04:09] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: don't worry, I probably have the shortest ban list on freenode ;-)
[04:09] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ lol did you change that just to get that guy lol
[04:09] <Kleidersack> yes, only me, right thoreauputic_ ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I didn't ban you :) I didn't even silence you ;)
[04:10] <cogeno> BTW, creating  a new folder appears to be working
[04:10] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ oh you should
[04:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, tried to make a joke, sorry
[04:10] <danny> what's the shortcut to open a terminal?  my panels just disappeared when i logged in :[
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: no worries :)
[04:10] <Kleidersack> danny: alt+f2 and xterm?
[04:11] <cogeno> One nice thing about Linux: Don't have to worry about making copies of a shitload of files if I accidentally drag them a bit when adding items to my selection
[04:11] <danny> kleidersack: alt+f2 isn't doing anything :/
[04:11]  * Pelo has been pirating ubuntu , making copies and giving them away to ppl 
[04:12] <ericrw> hello.  I'm trying to install Hardy into a chroot via debootstrap (from an existing system)...
[04:12] <RequinB4> PELO how could you
[04:13] <ericrw> and it keeps freezing on installing console-setup
[04:13] <ericrw> I've been installing all versions of debian and ubuntu via this method, until now..
[04:13] <Pelo> :-)
[04:13]  * IndyGunFreak thinks Pelo should be reported for pirating ubuntu
[04:13] <RequinB4> Pelo: by the way, where can I find a copy of the GPL thats embedded inside an ubuntu install
[04:14] <RequinB4> Yeah, they are cutting into canoical's profits on cd sales!
[04:14] <Pelo> RequinB4, it's probably on the cd , somewhere
[04:14] <Pelo> RequinB4, do a locate gpl on it
[04:14] <gogeta> Pelo pirate!! im calling the dcma police!!!
[04:14] <earthmeLon> Thanks.  I am using Mediatomb as a mediaserver to view movies on my ps3.  Here is an awesome tutorial for anybody interested http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/upnp_mediatomb_ps3_and_me
[04:15] <gogeta> llol
[04:15] <trinity93> heh
[04:15] <atlef> canonical should drm the iso's
[04:15] <RequinB4> Pelo - I'm afraid of the inevitable windows administrater at some cyber cafe trying to report me for giving away software
[04:16] <fbc> Could someone get me clue as to why this nautilus script does not execute? http://pastebin.ca/991554
[04:16] <gogeta> RequinB4 yea those ms police beating suck
[04:16] <trinity93> god for bid you try and sell one on ebay <giggle>
[04:16] <Pelo> RequinB4, I wouldn't be surprised
[04:16] <Bassoon> Is there a WINE package that is downloadable instead of accessed through the console?
[04:17] <gogeta> RequinB4 piratebay(ebay)
[04:17] <mshadle> has anyone here had any I/O issues with disks freezing in hardy/kernel 2.4.24-16-server?
[04:17] <gogeta> lol
[04:17] <gogeta> funny couse it has a dubble meaning
[04:17] <atlef> !wine-doors
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <trinity93> i had a friend that sold stuff on a site called ebanned
[04:18] <gogeta> nice
[04:18] <atlef> Bassoon: see if wine-doors is what you are looking for
[04:18] <RequinB4> well, the gpl allows people to sell the product as a service for distrubuting/compiling so long as the source code is given freely, so I suppose you could just sell it for $0.01
[04:18] <Bassoon> Thanks, atlef.
[04:19] <gogeta> RequinB4 iv seen those ebay scamers selling linux disk befor
[04:19] <Joeseph> is there a way I can run ubuntu with just the kernel?
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> RequinB4: Open the Gnome help and type "gpl" in the search box - it's there under gpl manual
[04:19] <gogeta> RequinB4 and plenty of lame sites
[04:19] <RequinB4> I beleive that too
[04:19] <gogeta> Joeseph yes a minumal install using the alt disk
[04:19] <gogeta> Joeseph very basics
[04:19] <fbc> Joeseph, yeah I believe the server versionis about a stripped as it can get.
[04:19] <trinity93> i find it interesting though that the FSF says on there site that you only have to give the source to your customers is your selling software
[04:20] <trinity93> is/s/if
[04:20] <gogeta> fbc min even more so
[04:20] <RyanM> Mmmm, I've a question concerning HH - anyone got a sec? :\
[04:20] <saurabh> Amarnath: u from India???
[04:20] <fbc> gogeta, yeah, I forgot about that install
[04:20] <nethakz> from what i understand selling things for gpl you generally charge for the support or extra parts that aren't gpl'd
[04:20] <RequinB4> thoreauputic_: thanks much
[04:20] <fbc> gogeta, could you give me clue as to why this nautilus script does not execute? http://pastebin.ca/991554
[04:21] <RequinB4> If it ever happens, i can't wait to see the look on someone's face
[04:21] <trinity93> well you dont have to make the download avaliable to any one but a paying customer
[04:21] <gogeta> fbc never to gracefull with scripts
[04:21] <nethakz> trinity93, the thing is though, you open the source for one paying customer he can go around and change one small thing and make it available for frree.
[04:22] <gogeta> fbc you made it executable rite
[04:22] <trinity93> well yes
[04:22] <trinity93> hell he dosent even have to change anything
[04:22] <RequinB4> nethakz - easier said then done
[04:23] <RyanM> Has anyone run into garbled sound issues on Hardy Heron?
[04:23] <eduardo> !hardy | RyanM
[04:23] <ubotu> RyanM: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:23] <fbc> gogeta, yeah
[04:23] <Joeseph> gogeta: I just wanted to run a pure terminal once-   Xorg is crashing my system when I run some sort of gui.
[04:23] <RyanM> Ah
[04:23] <RyanM> My mistake, thanks.
[04:23] <eduardo> lol
[04:23] <eduardo> no prob
[04:24] <fyrmedic> How do I add screen resolutions to use without doing a complete dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:24] <gogeta> Joeseph if you can get to a prompt ctrl alt f1 just stop gdm
[04:24] <eduardo> fyrmedic: right click your desktop
[04:24] <RequinB4> nethakz - consider crossover, whose source is freely available on the net.  Most people who know enough to compile will probably a) not re-distribute in an effort to support the devs or b) just take what they need from teh source
[04:24] <gogeta> Joeseph you will be in text mode at ctrl alt f1
[04:24] <jnetfreshmex> hi i'm new here and had some questions about my dvd playback on ubuntu
[04:24] <eduardo> fyrmedic: ahh, no my bad nvm
[04:25] <fbc> gogeta, I styled it exactly after an existing script, so I don't see the problem... I setup the permissions exactly like the other scripts, etc.
[04:25] <fyrmedic> eduardo: no worries.
[04:25] <thoreauputic_> !ask| jnetfreshmex
[04:25] <Joeseph> thanks gogeta
[04:25] <ubotu> jnetfreshmex: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:25] <trinity93> i find the stock pkg with the wine tricks script will handel most things well
[04:25] <gogeta> fbc did yea try sh scropt.sh
[04:25] <jnetfreshmex> ok thanks sorry
[04:25] <fbc> gogeta, nope.. I'll try..
[04:26] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: no need - I just wanted you to know you can go ahead and ask :)
[04:26] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: that factoid probably needs a bit of editing actually ;)
[04:26] <jnetfreshmex> when i put a dvd in the playback is slow and fails immediately after that. i can't watch any movies on it.
[04:27] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: what player?
[04:27] <jnetfreshmex> totem
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> eh.. use VLC..
[04:27] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: have you tried any other
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc thats just manuly telling ash its a script
[04:28] <fbc> gogeta, it didn't work... hmm
[04:28] <trinity93> mplayer is much better
[04:28] <jnetfreshmex> no i haven't
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc eh worth a shot
[04:28] <jessid> Hello. I have been a happy Ubuntu user since at least 2 years. Now I realize that Ubuntu can be installed in a Xbox 360, but my question is: how useful is that? would I be able to read the original Xbox 360  dvds if i install ubuntu in that device????
[04:28] <atlef> trinity93: !best
[04:28] <RequinB4> !best | IRequinB4 would suggest VLC, but
[04:28] <ubotu> IRequinB4 would suggest VLC, but: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc pretty shure you did ./ rite
[04:28] <atlef> !best
[04:28] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:28] <trinity93> yea VLC is fancy gui wise
[04:28] <trinity93> but mplayer is da bomb
[04:28]  * IndyGunFreak hates mplayer
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> jessid: Do you have a link that the 360 can have Linux installed on it? I haven't heard of it.
[04:29] <trinity93> it will play just about anything
[04:29] <fbc> gogeta,  no i can't because I'm right clicking on a file and selecting to run the script on it.
[04:29] <gogeta> < loves mplayer
[04:29] <gogeta> fbc lol
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> Even if it did, I'm sure you could "read" the discs just as you could read them in Linux or Windows now
[04:29] <trinity93> ibm 360?
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> wouldn't be too useful I don't think
[04:29] <kelvin911> why some divx movies flick when playing in vlc or mplayer?
[04:29] <jessid> Iced_Eagle you can even watch videos of ho to install it in youtube
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> trinity93, vlc will play everything mplayer will
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak < wrong
[04:30] <Iced_Eagle> hm, cool I'll go check that out now. Thanks for the heads up
[04:30] <jnetfreshmex> so i would just pick one, say mplayer, and dl then install it?
[04:30] <kelvin911> those movies dont flick when i play them with vlc in windows
[04:30] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak vlc cant handel rmvb
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak mplayer can
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak thats abought it thow
[04:30] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: use add/remove programs in the menu
[04:30] <kelvin911> why some divx movies flick when playing in vlc or mplayer in ubuntu
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> i've never had a need for rmvb
[04:30] <trinity93> mplayer will also play cue/bin files directly
[04:30] <gogeta> kelvin911 compiz can make it do that
[04:31] <jnetfreshmex> ok i'll try it
[04:31] <gogeta> kelvin911 enable direct rendering in mplayer or turn off compiz
[04:31] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:31] <Max_-> Since I installed CCSM and turned on most of the features, I can't anymore write words in the dictionnary item in one of my panels... when I click on it, it won't focus on it... like if it wasn't there.. but I can still use the middle button to paste in it.. I just can't press enter and get a definition... another thing is I can't anymore use my mouse wheel to change desktop using the desktop grid
[04:31] <Max_-> in the panel
[04:31] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, #sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:31] <Iced_Eagle> Hm wow, I haven't heard of that king kong shader hack in forever! Didn't realize anything ever came from that
[04:31] <trinity93> compz is a cluster f#%k
[04:32] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: it's also *just* possible the dma is not on for your cd/dvd drive ( unlikely since it is usually done automatically)
[04:32] <fyrmedic> SeaPhor; I was trying to avoid that. But if that is the only way, thank you.
[04:32] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:32] <trinity93> useing it is rather unintuitive
[04:32] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, that is with the res only
[04:32] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, the -phigh
[04:32] <trinity93> emeriald bits even more
[04:33] <fyrmedic> SeaPhor; oh cool thanks.
[04:33] <gogeta> ninjaslim if you mean the keychain you just delete it
[04:33] <kelvin911> gogeta: so it is compiz that is causing the flick?
[04:33] <thecno> what is the comand to join in another channer?
[04:34] <ninjaslim> gogeta: keychain no i mean configuration for my wireless internet one of the interfaces
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 yea mine did on anything not direct renderd
[04:34] <kelvin911> is there a way i can have compiz enabled and get good video?
[04:34] <RequinB4> thecyno /join #channell
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 yep
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 turn direct rendering on in mplayer
[04:34] <kelvin911> direct rendering?
[04:34] <kelvin911> what about in vlc?
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 no idea
[04:34] <ihmSelbst> hi
[04:34] <thecno> n_n thanks you RequinB4
[04:34] <RequinB4> hello ihmSelbst
[04:34] <kelvin911> default setting in mplayer has direct rendering diabled?
[04:35] <ihmSelbst> omg.. 5:35 am :/
[04:35] <fluid> Anyone know of a program that'll copy your ipod music to your computer?
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 i see some hardware option in vlc as well
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 pref output
[04:35] <ihmSelbst> fluid, wine >;)
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 and advanced you will see use hardware
[04:36] <fluid> Nah.  I'll pass.
[04:36] <RequinB4> fluid - Exaile will put the music into a playlist, but really all you have to do is copy the folder from the mounted dir
[04:36] <gogeta> kelvin911 video output module
[04:36] <ninjaslim> gogeta: keychain no i mean configuration for my wireless internet one of the interfaces
[04:36] <gogeta> ninjaslim: wouldent that be in network
[04:37] <craigbass1976> I've got a bash script I wrote a long time ago that shrinks images.  Must have been with fedora or cent though, since there's no such command in Ubuntu as convert.  Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[04:37] <kelvin911> when i click stop in mplayer i always get this gnome_screensaver_control() error
[04:37] <gogeta> kelvin911 that just means its not stoping your screen saver
[04:37] <danny> grrr
[04:38] <ninjaslim> gogeta: knetworkmanager, i changed a setting and it screwed up the wlan but i can't change it back, does it write to a config file cause if i can just delete that to rewrite config
[04:38] <fluid> I guess I'm stingy.  I was hoping for something to rescue me.  I deleted all my mp3s.. so on the ipod, they'll be I0242.mp3 or such.
[04:38] <danny> so, i can NOT get these panels to come back :[
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim i would hope so
[04:38] <danny> alt+f2 won't open anything, i can't create a launcher or anything :/
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim have you trying doing to sudo
[04:38] <kelvin911> still flicking in mplayer
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim it should write a new config
[04:39] <ninjaslim> gogeta: no i'm asking you if you know of that file, where would it be, i'm a gentoo user i'm asking for a freind, at least for use config files are placed in conf.d
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 how bought dubble buffer
[04:39] <kelvin911> why when i play the game in dosbox, the screensaver will be on?
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 also change your render to opengl
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 or opengl2
[04:39] <kelvin911> i have double buffering and direct rendering on
[04:39] <kelvin911> which video output is the best?
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 gl2
[04:39] <kelvin911> openGL? direct? x11 ?
[04:40] <ninjaslim> gogeta: any ideas
[04:40] <thoreauputic_> danny: gnome-panel? Try diving into tty1 with ctrl+alt+F1, log in, and run "killall gnome-panel" , then see if they come back when you hit alt+F7
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 opengl
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 if its to slow then direct
[04:40] <danny> thoreaputic_ when I do that, it says no process killed
[04:40] <kelvin911> then why the default setting isnt on openGL?
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 it can be slow on old systems
[04:40] <thoreauputic_> danny: are you sure alt+F2 does nothing? Sounds odd
[04:40] <n-iCe> how to remove a program completly?
[04:40] <n-iCe> apt-get remove program
[04:41] <n-iCe> and aptitude... ==
[04:41] <thoreauputic_> danny: what does "pidof gnome-panel" say ?
[04:41] <danny> thoreaputic_ doesn't do a thing, at least not that i can see.  for sure doesn't open terminal.  :/
[04:41] <ninjaslim> gogeta: any ideas
[04:41] <gogeta> kelvin911 thers a good direct one to i cant rember the na,e
[04:41] <thoreauputic_> danny: if there's a number, use " kill PID number"
[04:41] <gogeta> ninjaslim nope try it as su or do it wile the cards not activ
[04:41] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: why not "pkill gdm"?
[04:41] <danny> thoreaputic_ alright, gotta go to xserv or w/e to do that, can't open a dumb terminal :<
[04:41] <kelvin911> i try openGL2 still a bit flicking
[04:42] <kelvin911> maybe the movie is badly ripped
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: because that is unnecessary.
[04:42] <gogeta> kelvin911 could be
[04:42] <kelvin911> but it doesnt flick like this in windows
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: and won't work without sudo anyway
[04:42] <kelvin911> at least not this visble
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: and is a bazooka solution
[04:42] <n-iCe> how to uninstall and remove a package?? from the terminal
[04:42] <gogeta> kelvin911 as i said thers another good direct mode xv i beleve
[04:42] <Shadow420> Kelvin what type of Video Card you have?
[04:42] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry, I should read whole command :-(
[04:42] <kelvin911> i use xv b4
[04:43] <danny> thoreaputic_ can i PM you?
[04:43] <Shadow420> gogeta sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <thoreauputic_> danny: keep it in channel so others can help and maybe learn too
[04:43] <gogeta> ?
[04:43] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <Shadow420> n-iCe sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <gogeta> naa bad
[04:43] <danny> alright, well what do i type to get to xserv or whatever it is?
[04:43] <thoreauputic_> danny: did you try what I suggested? In a tty ?
[04:43] <gogeta> --purge remove
[04:44] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  there is a aptitude command, what's the difference?
[04:44] <Shadow420> Kelvin what type of Video Card you have?
[04:44] <danny> thoreauputic_ whats a tty? :x
[04:44] <thoreauputic_> danny: X runs on F7 usually - so alt+F7
[04:44] <thoreauputic_> danny: the black text mode you get with ctrl+alt+F1-6 :)
[04:44] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: there isn't a difference other than that aptitude supports more options and when started with no arguments it provices an interactive text-pased package manager interface
[04:44] <Shadow420> Kelvin911 what type of Video Card you have?
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 best way is use the eq the direct mode that lets you use it is the best
[04:45] <Starnestommy> *provides
[04:45] <danny> alt+f7 doesn't do anything, either
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 i think it was xv or the other one xvb or something
[04:45] <thoreauputic_> danny: tty = Teletype ( it's a hnagover from long ago when terminals were really teletypes)
[04:45] <thoreauputic_> danny: are you in the text mode?
[04:45] <Shadow420> danny ctrl-alt-f7
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 if its still flikering i would say driver thing
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> danny: ctrl-alt-F1 or ( F2 etc)
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 or maybe some compiz tqeaking
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: not needed from a tty
[04:46] <n-iCe> I see Starnestommy  and how do I update a package?
[04:46] <kelvin911> compiz tweaking how?
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 do you have the compiz confige manager installed
[04:46] <kelvin911> yes
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: in fact if you use alt+aroow you eventually get back to X - try it :)
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 go to it and slect enable comiz for video
[04:47] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: ctrl+alt+F* is only needed in X
[04:47] <kelvin911> where?
[04:47] <Shadow420> thoreauputic_ true
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 man i cant tell you now lol
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 been a wile
[04:47] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: it's the same command for installing one
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 but i knoe its there
[04:47] <kelvin911> i am in compizConfig Settings manager
[04:48] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  the thing is when I try to install again says 2 to be updated, and it isn't updating it
[04:48] <kelvin911> i can only find video playback option
[04:48] <kelvin911> and it is enabled
[04:48] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: you might need to run sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:48] <gogeta> kelvin911 that it
[04:48] <n-iCe> I did Starnestommy
[04:48] <gogeta> kelvin911 well then try turning it off then
[04:48] <WootOnLinux> quick question, i had recently installed ubuntu, and wired internet and wireless were working great! on my good streak.. i installed VMware and windows, and Xinetd,that worked fine, i rebooted, and my ethernet card and wireless card no longer work.
[04:48] <WootOnLinux> is there a way i can reinstall the network drivers?
[04:49] <jessid> Iced_Eagle http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/
[04:49] <thoreauputic_> danny: any further along?
[04:49] <RequinB4> !hardy
[04:49] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:49] <RequinB4> 4 days
[04:49] <MrSteve> what is LTS ?
[04:50] <RequinB4> !LTS
[04:50] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:50] <Max_-> long time support
[04:50] <gogeta> long tearm supportk
[04:50] <kelvin911> it still there
[04:50] <thoreauputic_> MrSteve: Long Term Support
[04:50] <Max_-> term doh
[04:50] <MrSteve> YAY
[04:50] <gogeta> kelvin911 sounds driver realted then
[04:50] <MrSteve> YAY Hoooray!
[04:50] <kelvin911> the little flick just like the framerate cant pick it up right sometimes
[04:50] <kelvin911> sound?
[04:50] <JohninLex> Hey Guys I have a small question:  What is pidgin???
[04:50] <thoreauputic_> JohninLex: Instant messaging client
[04:50] <gogeta> sound?
[04:51] <gogeta> i thought you ment a flicker
[04:51] <JohninLex> how do i get rid of it
[04:51] <gogeta> < falls off the world
[04:51] <Starnestommy> JohninLex: in a terminal, type sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[04:51] <thoreauputic_> JohninLex: uninstall it?
[04:51] <WootOnLinux> no one has any words of wisdom for me???
[04:51] <JohninLex> thank you for your help guys
[04:52] <gogeta> kelvin911 a sound flicker just enable the sound buffer
[04:52] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Unlikely that 're-installing drivers' will fix the problem.
[04:52] <kelvin911> not sound
[04:52] <kelvin911> its the video
[04:52] <kelvin911> where to enable sound buffer?
[04:52] <WootOnLinux> mutk: what i want to really know is why teh modules wer eturned off, they worked fine on an out of the box linux install
[04:52] <gogeta> kelvin911 in sound lol
[04:52] <WootOnLinux> mutk:  and im using ubuntu 7.10 btw
[04:52] <danny> got it workin
[04:53] <mutk> WootOnLinux, What makes you think they have been 'turned off' ?
[04:53] <eduardo> WootOnLinux: try dhclient && aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[04:53] <WootOnLinux> um.. the wirless card that i was browsing the internet with like 2hrs ago no longer shows up?
[04:53] <WootOnLinux> and the ethernet card which connected to the internet, is now nowt connecting.
[04:54] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: is the nm-applet running ?
[04:54] <mutk> WootOnLinux, ifconfig  see what is up and what is not.
[04:54] <WootOnLinux> network monitor is there
[04:54] <jjt009> haylo
[04:54] <WootOnLinux> im fairly new to linux.. how do i run ifconfig command? sudo ifconfig?
[04:54] <jjt009> Woot: just ifconfig
[04:54] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Should be able to run it just like that - no sudo
[04:55] <Shadow420> I can't wait until hardy is released
[04:55] <jjt009> anybody know where i can go to talk about eclipse on ubuntu
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> mutk: ok I see.. eth0, eth0:avah and lo
[04:55] <jjt009> i'm experiencing some problems
[04:55] <n-iCe> The msgfmt command is required to build libpurple. , how can I install it???
[04:55] <jjt009> with the compiler
[04:55] <n-iCe> !msgfmt
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgfmt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Does eth0 have an IP address?
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> so the ethernet card is being picked up..but for some reason its not connecting
[04:55] <Shadow420> !eclipse | jjt009
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <jburd> jjt009: Ask your question here.
[04:55] <zero-cool> how can i compile own kernel
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> i dont see an IP .. no
[04:55] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: one possible thing to try with network-manager              sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:55] <JohninLex> anyone in here know how to write a widget scrip???
[04:56] <jburd> What is a "widget scrip?"
[04:56] <WootOnLinux> Thorea: let me give it a shot
[04:56] <astro76> n-iCe: if you type a command in the terminal which you don't have, it will tell you how to install it
[04:56] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: that sometimes gets nm working again
[04:56] <kelvin911> could that be video driver issue?
[04:56] <jjt009> jburd: ok, i'm have some problem when running code String.contains in IBM compiler (eclipse)
[04:56] <kelvin911> are there many nvidia driver just like so many of them for windows?
[04:56] <zero-cool> i would like compile my kernel
[04:56] <jjt009> it works once in a while, but not always
[04:56] <jjt009> it's extremely strange
[04:56] <jjt009> anyone aware of this bug?>
[04:56] <JohninLex> it is a active desktop image, kida like a gilf
[04:56] <n-iCe> astro76,  that was true! didn't know it thank you!
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> I restarted it..i dont see a wireless card.. and eth0 isnt connecting
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> could xinetd have messed something up?
[04:57] <mutk> WootOnLinux, inet addr: NUMBER   is not there?
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: you haven't given it very long...
[04:57] <jburd> jjt009: You'll need to be more specific than that.   Paste a code sample, the steps you took to reproduce the bug, what you expect, and what occurs.  dpaste.com
[04:57] <mutk> WootOnLinux, xinetd has little to do with the network inerfaces.
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: Ubuntu doesn't use xinetd
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> i had to install it
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> for vmware
[04:57] <mutk> thoreauputic_, It is availavle as an option though
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> ah
[04:57] <jjt009> jburd: hold
[04:58] <thoreauputic_> mutk: sure
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> in my original question i said.. i installed VMware for windows
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and it did a whole lot of network bridging
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and shortly after that i think my internet stopped working
[04:58] <zero-cool> can somebody tell me i wanna compile my kernel on ubuntu
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> so im assuming that is the culprit. and no the NM restart didnt work.
[04:58] <astro76> !kernel | zero-cool
[04:58] <ubotu> zero-cool: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and there is no INternet Adr: # after eth 0.
[04:58] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: ah I see - hmm, don't know much about vmware, sorry
[04:59] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Check basics first then - make sure the cable is plugged in and you have link lite
[04:59] <gogeta> vmware woot
[04:59] <n-iCe> !GLib
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> cable is plugged in
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> im using 2 laptops
[04:59] <zero-cool>  know bu i wish teach
[04:59] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: I know that it sets up an annoying number of interfaces though ;)
[04:59] <napi> what do I need to change so a user can't get out of their home directory? Or if they can, that they can't read contents of any files on the system?
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> one to speak to u guys w/ and troubleshooting w/ the other
[04:59] <gogeta> WootOnLinux bridging doesent liek windows
[04:59] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: have you tried VirtualBox ?
[04:59] <gogeta> WootOnLinux use the other workik option
[04:59] <ClickClickBoom> Is it true that ubuntu is compiled with the -fail option on to maximize the failflood count?
[05:00] <gogeta> network
[05:00] <n-iCe> astro76, : You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[05:00] <n-iCe> I wrote GLib but didn't tell me how to install it any idea?
[05:00] <WootOnLinux> nah i havent tried virtual box, but i liked vmware! everything was runnig smoothly except net ;p
[05:00] <jjt009> jburd: ok http://pastebin.com/m25a10f31
[05:01] <n-iCe> How can I install this: You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: What are you building?
[05:01] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: VB just does NAT as far as I can see - works well with Linux but I don't use windows so I don't know how well it handles that
[05:01] <n-iCe> jburd,  pidgin
[05:01] <zero-cool> have anybody in in croatia
[05:01] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: is libglib2.0-dev installed?
[05:01] <jjt009> jburd: values are there; everything was kept constant and i received different outputs for variable "addresses"
[05:01] <kdubois> n-iCe: apt-cache search glib | grep dev
[05:01] <astro76> !info libglib2.0-0 | n-iCe
[05:01] <ubotu> n-ice: libglib2.0-0 (source: glib2.0): The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[05:01] <kelvin911> could that be the 50Hz refresh rate making the flick?
[05:01] <jjt009> !bomb
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bomb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin
[05:01] <kdubois> n-iCe: install what looks like what you need from that list....
[05:01] <jjt009> !jburd
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jburd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: That will install everything you need to build pidgin.
[05:01] <thoreauputic_> what's the country code for croatia?
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thorea:  i dno.. i see alot of ppl running VMware windows on linux.. it seems to be fine.. i wonder if i did somethign wrong.
[05:02] <n-iCe> :o
[05:02] <jburd> jjt009: One sec.
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> my only other option is to reinstall ubuntu
[05:02] <jjt009> jburd: np
[05:02] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: hint: type thore <tab>
[05:02] <n-iCe> thanks jburd
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_: ahhh nice
[05:02] <thoreauputic_> :)
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_:  isnt there a way to force linux to recognize hardware??
[05:03] <ClickClickBoom> how come the distro ships with porn as the default background
[05:03] <mutk> WootOnLinux, VMware runs a service script at boot time on most Linuxes. Could stop that, and set it to NOT start at boot. Reboot the system and see if that has an effect. Although I don' think it should.
[05:03] <ouellettesr_> how can i make ubuntu viewable from a windows vista pc? they are both connected to a router.
[05:03] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: umm... it usually does unless it's not supported
[05:03] <kdubois> n-iCe: i didnt know you were using ubuntu, apt-get install pidgin-musictracker will do it
[05:03] <Starnestommy> ClickClickBoom: it doesn;t
[05:03] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: hello
[05:03] <jjt009> Starnestommy: yuo on gnome
[05:03] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom i whant porn
[05:03] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom yay
[05:03] <ouellettesr_> jjt009, hi
[05:03] <ClickClickBoom> oh but it does. naked people, with an ubuntu l;ogo in the corner
[05:03] <thoreauputic_> ClickClickBoom: no more or you are out of here
[05:03] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: how are things?
[05:04] <jjt009> jburd: ready?
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> jjt009, why do you ask?
[05:04] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom wow you made that op mad thats rare
[05:04] <Peng> Hardy final isn't out yet, right?
[05:04] <iandefor> Peng: not for a few more days
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> would someone put a leash on that bot??
[05:04] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: i have no idea
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> lol
[05:04] <ClickClickBoom> but lulz hasn't ensued yet!
[05:04] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_:  its just weird that it was fine when i first installd it, so i know hardware is supported...so frustrating
[05:04] <Peng> iandefor: Ok. Just making sure.
[05:04] <jburd> ouellettesr_: You use Samba or SSH.  You can mount Windows network shares as mount points on Linux using Samba.  You can access Linux volumes using Samba as well.   Places > Connect To Server...  > Choose "Windows share." and fill in the details.
[05:04] <jburd> jjt009: Yes, reading the paste now.
[05:04] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: sounds like a vmware issue as you say
[05:04] <jjt009> jburd: thanks bro
[05:05] <iandefor> Peng: I think it's due on thursday
[05:05] <jjt009> thoreauputic_: how'd you get to admin status?
[05:05] <thoreauputic_> jjt009: I was asked
[05:05] <ClickClickBoom> you can't kick someone until the lulz happens!
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux change vmware from bridged to nat
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you will be fine
[05:05] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_  : gogeta, how will i do that?
[05:05] <jjt009> thoreauputic_: and who asked you?
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux power down the vm then in prefss
[05:05] <n-iCe> oh thanks
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you will see network you can change it
[05:05] <Greenbox> hey, does anyone know a workaround for the bug that kills torrents in ubuntu 7.10?
[05:06] <WootOnLinux> ok.. let me take a look
[05:06] <Greenbox> *torrents over wireless
[05:06] <ouellettesr_> jburd, im trying to make a folder on my pc (ubuntu) show up under vista media center to watch movies, i dont think I can do that with samba can i?
[05:06] <jburd> jjt009: The code doesn't answer all my questions directly.  Though, I have a suggestion:  "if (comp.trim ().equals ("a") == false && comp.trim ().equals ("the") == false && comp.trim ().equals ("some") == false && comp.trim ().length () > 2)"   Why are you trimming the value of comp per comparison?
[05:06] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  i dont see any options??
[05:07] <gogeta> WootOnLinux there is
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> hmm..
[05:07] <mutk> thoreauputic_, That was odd. I must have auto ignore boofheads on. I was wondering why he was kicked.
[05:07] <gogeta> WootOnLinux on your vm itself
[05:07] <thoreauputic_> mutk: trolling, basically
[05:07] <jjt009> jburd: yeah, i guess i could set a string to comp.trim ()
[05:07] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Then scrolled up . I completely missed it..
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> ahh i c it.. k lets see if this changes anything
[05:07] <L_inf> How can I kill a process from the Terminal ??
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  ur saying this will solve my linux problem?
[05:07] <jjt009> jburd: but that wouldn't solve the problem
[05:08] <jjt009> jburd: i'm thinking of just submitting this as a bug
[05:08] <jburd> ouellettesr_: An Ubuntu samba volume appears like just another Windows share to your Windows network.  If you can mount a Windows share, you can mount a Samba share.
[05:08] <jjt009> jburd: it's beyond understanding
[05:08] <magnus|msc> L_inf: kill <id>
[05:08] <gogeta> WootOnLinux change all those bridges issues yes
[05:08] <Starnestommy> L_inf: "kill pid"  where "pid" is the process's pid number
[05:08] <jburd> jjt009: You'll need to answer these questions specifically:  1.  Brief description of the problem.  2. How to reproduce it.  3.  What you expected.  4. What happened instead.
[05:08] <WootOnLinux> gogeta: ok i changed my vmware to nat.. no luck in linux tho...still cant connect to internet
[05:08]  * Agent_bob likes  killall something
[05:09] <gogeta> (Settings > Configuration Editor
[05:09] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Quite often the troll attempt is realy a method to ID who's an op.. I guess you realise that.
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  Btw linux is my main OS.. the VMWare is runnign windows.. dnt know if thats diff
[05:09] <gogeta> WootOnLinux now you need to remve the bridge in linux
[05:09] <underscore> quick question: rythmbox does not save the changes to song titles when I close it and reopen it. How do I fix this?
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> ahhh i c
[05:09] <thoreauputic_> mutk: it isn't a secret :)
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> how do i do that? god i feel so dumb lol
[05:09] <L_inf> Starnestommy: Where can I see the id number??
[05:09] <ritalin> hai2u guys
[05:09] <magnus|msc> is there a software which reduces the usable ram ???
[05:09] <thoreauputic_> mutk: just check the access list for the channel
[05:09] <gogeta> WootOnLinux i duno you set it up
[05:09] <Starnestommy> L_inf: look in System > Administration > System Monitor
[05:09] <underscore> For example, when I change a typo in a missnamed song, next time I start rhythmbox, the song is misnamed again
[05:09] <ritalin> how can i get my plugins to work on firefox 3?
[05:10] <WootOnLinux> ok where would i look for the bridge?
[05:10] <gogeta> WootOnLinux i would assume in network
[05:10] <WootOnLinux> i didnt actually set it up :P
[05:10] <ouellettesr_> jburd, ok, just to clarify, i need to setup samba on the ubuntu machine, or the vista machine? I am trying to share a folder on ubuntu for vista
[05:11] <jburd> ouellettesr_: On the Ubuntu machine.  System > Administration > Shared Folders.
[05:11] <ritalin> hey
[05:11] <L_inf> Is there a way of knowing the process id without the system monitor???
[05:11] <ritalin> i need some halp
[05:11] <ritalin> halp meh
[05:11] <jburd> L_inf: Yes, pgrep processname
[05:12] <ritalin> ff3 and plugins? out of luck or can they work?
[05:12] <jburd> You can view a process tree using pstree
[05:12] <thoreauputic_> L_inf: lots - pidof, pgrep, ps aux |grep process
[05:12] <WootOnLinux> i dont see any network bridges anywhere
[05:12] <gogeta> WootOnLinux might ned to reboot for vmware to remve the bridge controller as well
[05:12] <WootOnLinux> hmm ok
[05:12] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic_ L_inf pidof <name>
[05:13] <thoreauputic_> Agent_bob: well, yes
[05:13] <underscore> Rythmbox is not remembering changes to song titles. Anyone know how to fix this??
[05:13] <On3> editing /etc/fstab, how do i set it up if i have about 5 partitions with EXT3 formats?
[05:14] <Agent_bob> On3 man fstab    it's standard format for all fs types
[05:14] <yosef> not
[05:14] <On3> Agent_bob, im trying to install quota, do i need to set it up
[05:15] <jnetfreshmex> i added vlc and my movie plays much better than with totem but the playback is sketchy and stalls a lot. the dvd is new so no scratches.
[05:15] <yosef> how do reinstall extras in ubuntu?
[05:15] <Agent_bob> On3 actually i've never setup disk quatas so maybe you should consult someone else on that.
[05:15] <On3> Agent_bob, okay thanks :)
[05:16] <ouellettesr_> jburd, ok, found that, the folder doesnt seem to be showing up on vista, do I have to reboot?
[05:16] <Agent_bob> On3 for most fstab questions i can answer tho.   and your welcome.
[05:16] <jjt009> jburd: ok looks like i got it figured
[05:16] <yosef> Hello guys I am a new comer to linux world !
[05:16] <jjt009> jburd: thanks
[05:16] <jburd> ouellettesr_:  I don't use Windows much so I can't say.  Rebooting Windows may work (accidentally).
[05:16] <ouellettesr_> lol
[05:16] <jburd> jjt009: np
[05:17] <ouellettesr_> ill give it a try
[05:17] <gogeta> WootOnLinux still around lol
[05:18] <jnetfreshmex> my dvd playback is stalling. what can i do?
[05:18] <On3> Agent_bob, what about setting up proftpd? can u help with the set up of that?
[05:18] <tro> are there any tools to help build a .deb from a set of files?
[05:19] <Agent_bob> On3 maybe.   proftpd is pretty streight forward
[05:19] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you die on me lol
[05:20] <drivetrax> how to install tar.gz programs?
[05:20] <On3> Agent_bob, how would i make the default directory for uploads and downloads something like /downloads
[05:20] <guest___> ..
[05:20] <guest___> hello
[05:21] <guest___> i need some help ... http://images.torrentmove.com/show.php?id=66e7457680f9a765dbaf05a552b36a2d
[05:21] <Agent_bob> On3 install proftpd and edit /etc/proftpd   or what ever it's config is called anymore   and set the base (root) dir to /downloads/
[05:22] <guest___> i can't mount ntfs partition which installed windows
[05:22] <jburd> guest___: Reboot into Windows.  Run a full diskcheck on those volumes and then get back into Ubuntu.
[05:22] <gogeta> :-( where WootOnLinux go
[05:22] <jnetfreshmex> please help with my dvd playback! i removed totem and installed VLC. still no luck tho.
[05:22] <jburd> guest___: It appears you were using Windows when a power failure occurred.  Windows locks NTFS volumes in such a scenario.
[05:22] <xu> dg
[05:22] <Agent_bob> On3 alternatively you could edit the /etc/passwd and set the proftp user's home to /downloads/   should achieve the same end.
[05:23] <Shoopuf> I don't want to wait 3 days... I've been waiting forever! If I download the current RC will I have to download Ubuntu again in 3 days when it is released? :p
[05:23] <^rastamn^> clear
[05:23] <jburd> guest___: Rebooting into Windows, running a disk check and booting back into Ubuntu should fix it.
[05:23] <On3> Agent_bob, where it has commented out DefaultRoot ~
[05:23] <d-bos> no shoopuf.
[05:23] <guest___> jburd : i can't get into windows mode ... or even save mode
[05:23] <Agent_bob> On3 yeah
[05:23] <On3> Agent_bob, thanks
[05:23] <balleyn1> Shoopuf: nope, any changes will come through updates
[05:23] <guest___> i mean...windows must be corrupts
[05:24] <Shoopuf> Thanks, downloading now. :) Hope the sound works this time. :P
[05:24] <jburd> guest___: That's not news to me.  Windows does not read its own file system way too many times.  I've had to recover client data using Linux and ntfs-3g.
[05:24] <n-iCe> how can I install the musictracker to pidgin??
[05:24] <drivetrax> guest___:  did you format the windows while installing Linux?
[05:24] <jburd> guest___: You can force mount NTFS partitions though.  No guarantees there.
[05:24] <guest___> <drivetrax --- no sir
[05:25] <Shoopuf> n-iCe: type /join #pidgin ... They have their own IRC channel. :)
[05:25] <atlef> n-iCe: synaptic
[05:25] <gogeta> < beats windows with a imac
 --- i already force to mount that partition
[05:25] <drivetrax> mbr is messed
[05:25] <n-iCe> atlef,  what plugin I don't find it with that name
[05:25] <guest___> but it doesn't work
[05:25] <gogeta> drivetrax sueprgrub
[05:25] <jburd> guest___: When you try to load Windows, what error message do you see?
[05:25] <On3> Agent_bob, just about to say it didnt work! but, i noticed hey, i didnt restart proftpd :p
[05:26] <atlef> n-iCe: pidgin-musictracker
 some file system couldn't read
[05:26] <cirkit_> For some reason when I put my laptop in suspend / sleep and bring it back, I lose all sound. I don't get any messages about soundcard being in use, just nothing comes out and volume is all the way up, any ideas?
[05:26] <Agent_bob> On3 jinks.  the thought crossed my mind to remind you....
[05:26] <On3> Agent_bob, hehehe
[05:26] <hanophix33> my ibm t30's fan constantly runs and since has become very loud and grinding, any ideas?
[05:26] <jburd> guest___: Can you get the exact error message?
 when windows is starting ... it just reboot
[05:26] <gogeta> :'(
[05:27] <phynix> is there an hardy channel?
[05:27] <drivetrax> change any bios setting?
[05:27] <jburd> guest___: I'd suggest a better strategy for storing your personal data.  Don't store it in the same partition as the Windows installation.  Use a separate partition so even when you lose the OS, you can still recover data.
[05:27] <gogeta> !hardy
[05:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:27] <phynix> thanks
[05:27] <Aldenor> mmm
[05:27] <Aldenor> hi
[05:27] <Aldenor> please, i need a tip
 i'll reinstall windows then let you know again later
[05:27] <Agent_bob> oh hardy is not out yet ???   i've been away too long.
[05:27] <Aldenor> how can i uninstall the ubuntu
[05:27] <Aldenor> ?
[05:28] <gogeta> Aldenor vista is bad for you
[05:28] <jburd> guest___: read about restoring Grub back to the MBR before you do that.
[05:28] <Aldenor> no, i want to install kubuntu
[05:28] <Aldenor> windows sux xD
[05:28] <gogeta> !uninstall
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <gogeta> LOL
[05:28] <jburd> Aldenor: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Agent_bob> Aldenor delete it's partition/s and fix your MBR
--- i always do that, even my documents folder...i move to store in other drive
[05:29] <Agent_bob> Aldenor oh sorry.   lag.    thought you asked how to uninstall linux
[05:29] <gogeta> Agent_bob i blame the lag
[05:30] <On3> Agent_bob, now im lost
[05:30] <Agent_bob> On3 where are you ?
[05:30] <Agent_bob> lol
[05:30] <boselecta> i'm having terrible trouble with firefox locking up or something today. is this uncommon?
[05:30] <Aldenor> is right install the KDA destkop? or is better install all the kubuntu
[05:30] <Aldenor> :(
[05:30] <gogeta> Aldenor ok windows sucks why did you ask
[05:30] <jburd> Aldenor: KDE comes with kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <On3> Agent_bob, i set the base directory to my /web/ but when i connect it gives me a folder that isnt my home directory or /web/
[05:30] <gogeta> Aldenor same thing you will just have both
[05:31] <jburd> boselecta: Try running firefox from the terminal like this:    firefox-3.0 or firefox
[05:31] <gogeta> Aldenor kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:31] <On3> Agent_bob, i created a directory called /secure/ in it, how would i search for this directory now?
[05:31] <jburd> boselecta: note the diagnostics if any that appear at the term
[05:31] <Agent_bob> On3 find / -type d -name secure 2>/dev/null
[05:31] <boselecta> oh ok. it's running fine, and i'm listening to streaming radio. but like the screen isn't repainting properly.
[05:32] <boselecta> and it won't raise or get focus properly.
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, oh wait, its still going to my home directory...
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, okay so now... how would i create a new user (like FTP_USER) then add it to proftpd and when they connect it goes to /web/
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, i have the new user created but what about the proftpd bit?
[05:32] <anathematic> what's a good mp3 player on ubuntu? (looking for winamp like application)
[05:33] <atlef> !bmp
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <jburd> On3: Why are you using FTP?
[05:33] <atlef> !bpm
[05:33] <gogeta> anathematic:  xmms
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <anathematic> thanks gogeta
[05:33] <On3> jburd, cause i want to set up pretty much an ISP  webserver
[05:34] <jburd> On3: You realise that you may be opening up your network to exploits?
[05:34] <On3> jburd, except its more for training and educational purposes and will be taken down in about 2 - 3 hours once i get it installed then for actual use
[05:34] <Sturmeh> and that your isp may not allow such conduct
[05:34] <Agent_bob> On3 normally "anonymus"  is used for that.     useradd -d /web anonymus      or who ever...
[05:34] <Daisuke_Ido> anathematic, audacious
[05:35] <maestrotech> How do i form a command line syntax to send an application to my second monitor. (:1)
[05:35] <On3> Agent_bob, oh wait how do i delete a user?
[05:35] <Bubble_tea> Does anyone find awn working?
[05:35] <Agent_bob> On3 userdel blah
[05:35] <On3> Agent_bob im great at this whole ubuntu thing huh? :P
[05:35] <jburd> man userdel before you do that.
[05:35] <hanophix33> how come firefox bin takes like 50 percent of cpu?
[05:36] <jburd> Debian prefers deluser instead.
[05:36] <Agent_bob> man man   before you do that...
[05:36] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:36] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: I find AWN working everytime i log in
[05:36] <vio>  '<
[05:37] <Agent_bob> jburd yeah and adduser   but i don't much like perl scripts
[05:37] <bouma> can i change my keysused to switch consoles, so the contextkey toggles between the last two consoles ?
[05:37] <gogeta> bouma whats wrong with ctrl alt f1
[05:37] <Bubble_tea> FastZ where did u dl and install
[05:37] <tavo18> I need some help my machine has a fault
[05:38] <Agent_bob> bouma console or the gnome-terminal ?
[05:38] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[05:38] <tavo18> at POST the machine stops when detecting hard disk drive
[05:38] <bouma> Agent_bob: console
[05:38] <Bubble_tea> FastZ Couldn't find package avant-window-navigator
[05:38] <On3> Agent_bob, my ftp server is saying anonymous requires a password except i used the command u gave me....
[05:38] <tavo18> and then it shows Verifying DMI Pool Data
[05:39] <n-iCe> how to install *** PCRE library
[05:39] <On3> Agent_bob, it shouldnt need a password
[05:39] <bouma> Agent_bob: i suppose gnome terminal is pretty good too
[05:39] <tavo18> i don't know what to doo
[05:39] <sparr_> xmms is no longer in hardy...  wtf?
[05:39] <bouma> Agent_bob: but i was asking regarding the console
[05:39] <mrpockets> im trying to configure skype and it seems im having trouble getting my mic to work
[05:39] <Agent_bob> bouma ummm without writing a script not toggle,  but; you can use the windows keys or the like to shift higher and lower tty's   i can give you a command for it if you like.
[05:39] <Bubble_tea> FastZ E:  couldn't find pkg avant-window-navigator
[05:39] <goodhabit> sparr_, xmms is not developing any more. Audacious is replacement for xmms.
[05:40] <Bubble_tea> Does anyone have that problem?
[05:40] <hanophix33> gkrellm shows that my gpu is at 128c
[05:40] <bouma> gogeta: cause its nice to just toggle between two consoles, ie for editing and build/run
[05:40] <n-iCe> how can I search a package from terminal???
[05:40] <gogeta> ctrl alt f
[05:40] <gogeta> f2
[05:40] <goodhabit> n-iCe, $ aptitude search PACKAGE_NAME
[05:40] <sparr_> goodhabit: xmms had a release like 5 months ago, thats a lot less "not developing" than many other packages
[05:40] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: gimme a second.  you have to add some repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40]  * kindofabuzz gives FastZ
[05:40] <_aeGIs> How do I change the default icon for specific mime type apps?
[05:40] <gogeta> bouma easy switch keys i dont get it
[05:41] <goodhabit> sparr_, audacious is better not only cuz of better development.
[05:41] <Agent_bob> bouma are you sure you are not talking about that gnome-terminal that you get from the gnome menu itom named "console" (a terrable misnomer)
[05:41] <guest___> what is kubuntu?
[05:41] <guest___> is it the same as ubuntu?
[05:41] <gogeta> ubuntu with kde
[05:41] <guest___> !kubuntu
[05:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:41] <goodhabit> guest___, kubuntu is KDE ubuntu edition.
[05:41] <guest___> KDE ??
[05:41] <gogeta> !kde
[05:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:42] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: here is a good how-to to get you started.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[05:42] <guest___> um.. so kde is conpiz fusion right?
[05:42] <fulio> How, i have a question, is there any kind of keylogger for ubuntu?
[05:42] <gogeta> xompiz fusion is x
[05:42] <Agent_bob> wrong
[05:42] <gogeta> compiz
[05:42] <gogeta> any windows manager can use it
[05:42] <blind> have there been any advancements in bluetooth since edgy?
[05:42] <On3> Agent_bob, does anonymous have a password? or should it if i use that command u gave me?
[05:43] <_aeGIs> How do I change the default icon for specific mime type apps?
[05:43] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:43] <gogeta> Agent_bob right it was intergrated in x a wile back
[05:43] <hanophix33> is it safe to say that gkrellm is accurate?  its saying im at 262 degrees Fahrenheit on mu GPU
[05:43] <blind> I thought compiz WAS a wm?
[05:43] <On3> Agent_bob, cause im trying to access the ftp with the user account anonymous but its asking for a password
[05:43] <Agent_bob> On3 no.  passwd blah   to set one.   or   passwd -d blah   to make it passwordless.
[05:43] <gogeta>  blind at first it was it evalved
[05:44] <fulio> Hi everyone. Is there anykind of keylogger for  ubuntu?
[05:44] <blind> interesting.
[05:44] <dmsuperman> Does anybody have any experience in using Snippits?
[05:44] <Agent_bob> fulio for what purpose ?
[05:44] <ouellettesr> jburd, I got windows to see Ubuntu, but when i try to connect and use my ubuntu usernale/pass, it says login is incorrect, any ideas?
[05:44] <guest___> !gutsy
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[05:45] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:45] <On3> Agent_bob, its working! thanks heaps
[05:45] <jburd> ouellettesr: man smbpasswd
[05:45] <fulio> Agent_bob, i have my little brother using the computer while im at work im thinking that he has been wathcing pr0n
[05:45] <On3> Agent_bob, linux newbie, becomes that much closer to become linux kiddie :p
[05:45] <bouma> Agent_bob: im 100% sure im talking about the real "text" (depending on kernel framebuffer settings) mode console
[05:46] <Agent_bob> On3 welcome.   and you are learning some of the "most basic" and powerful linux commands your first day....
[05:46] <gogeta> Agent_bob what framebufer mode?
[05:47] <On3> Agent_bob, its kind of sad but ive been using Knoppix and Ubuntu on my desktop for a while, but always my Win2003 server was ok, but now i think its time to upgrade to something alittle more powerful... Go ubuntu server!
[05:47] <khin> hey guys, im running dapper and sometimes, firefox (v. 1.5.0.12) just randomly quits. all my windows at once, gone
[05:47] <Agent_bob> bouma ok,   my answer stands as perscribed then.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> bouma ummm without writing a script not toggle,  but; you can use the windows keys or the like to shift higher and lower tty's   i can give you a command for it if you like.
[05:47] <khin> it doesnt happen too often but def enough to be annoying
[05:47] <gogeta> On3 err thats weaker
[05:47] <blind> khin: well, try upgrading firefox
[05:47] <jburd> ouellettesr: Google "smbpasswd ubuntu"
[05:47] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:47] <On3> gogeta, what do u mean by that?
[05:47] <gogeta> On3 server is just text ubuntu w lamp
[05:47] <On3> gogeta, lets not get into a linux v. windows battle here
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 lol
[05:48] <Agent_bob> play nice
[05:48] <On3> gogeta, i was meaning swapping from windows 2003 to ubuntu server :p
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 not talking windows you said going to server
[05:48] <On3> gogeta, sorry, that was my miscommunication :S
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 unless you whant text mode :)
[05:49] <blind> on a server you don't need much more.
[05:49] <gogeta>  blind :)
[05:49] <gogeta>  blind yea not mutch text mode cant do
[05:49] <khin> ok. another problem: sometimes, i cannot start any programs or even shut down the computer. if i click anything in the taskbar, nothing happens. i have to do a hard shut down. honestly the environment is less stable than windows xp.
[05:49] <khin> im running dapper btw
[05:49] <Agent_bob> gogeta besides cli based linux is not pre'se "weaker" than +gui  anyway
[05:50] <gogeta>  blind hell you can play a a movie in framebuffer mode if you whant
[05:50] <blind> khin: well, while dapper is an LTS distro, there have been three upgrades since then that I'd recommend if you're having problems
[05:50] <gogeta> Agent_bob well if you wanna a gui you better w desktop + server tools
[05:50] <HipShot> hey quick question, what is that new apt that automatically installs and updates video drivers for Ubuntu?
[05:51] <khin> blind, ok. i haven't upgraded mainly because i'm afraid with three upgrades at once, somehow everything will break horribly
[05:51] <blind> khin: you can upgrade from dapper to gutsy (the latest) although I hear hardy comes out shortly.
[05:51] <Agent_bob> gogeta or server w/ gui added   same smoke stack, different brand name.
[05:51] <chris062689> Whats the channel for Ubuntu Eee?
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob lol thats all desktop would be
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob a server with a gui
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob lol
[05:52] <Agent_bob> gogeta that's what i said    "same smoke stack, different brand name"   but we are OT
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob knothing agenst it i can ran text mode like a pro
[05:52] <n-iCe> Where can I install pcre library?
[05:53] <n-iCe> pcre
[05:53] <chris062689> What is the channel name for ubuntu eee?
[05:53] <chris062689> !eeepc
[05:53] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[05:53] <gogeta> Agent_bob but we get 4 or 5 a day server installs come in with whers the gui
[05:53] <n-iCe> !pcre
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Bubble_tea> FastZ how to run awn?
[05:53] <khin> blind, I think I'll wait for Hardy
[05:54] <Agent_bob> gogeta do you answer "in the repos where it belongs"  :)))
[05:54] <blind> khin: yeah, i could be completely wrong, but i believe it comes out very shortly.
[05:54] <Agent_bob> n-iCe libpcre++-dev ?
[05:54] <blind> !timeline
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timeline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <blind> hmm..
[05:54] <blind> i forgot the command
[05:54] <gogeta> !hardy
[05:54] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:54] <_Net> How do you make a launcher for something using a custom icon?
[05:54] <gogeta> :)
[05:54] <_Net> I remember doing it before, I cant seem to find out how now.
[05:55] <blind> oh, so yeah. 3 days depending on your time zone :P
[05:55] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: well first of all you have to have Compiz-Fusion running on your machine... then to start AWN after you install it, you just go to Applications>Accessories>Avant Window Navigator
[05:55] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: without Compiz-Fusion, you're AWN isn't gonna work
[05:55] <blind> _Net: same way you'd make a regular launcher, then you can change the icon
[05:56] <_Net> I can change the embelm but I dont see any where that says Choose/Browse for icon
[05:56] <leileilol> hi
[05:56] <leileilol> jeeeez 1200
[05:56] <n-iCe> Agent_bob,  workes, thanks, where can I find the package names?
[05:56] <blind> _Net: when you click the 'properties' button (im assuming you're getting the same screen as me), do you get the icon in the top left?
[05:56] <FastZ> _Net: when you create the launcher, it should have a button with a picture of a springboard, just click on there and then navigate to where your icon is
[05:57] <_Net> Oh Blind.
[05:57] <_Net> Thank you sir, I didnt notice that.
[05:57] <shadeofgrey> i know this question doesnt belong here but -- my speakers for my xbox360 are on the floor and i cant reach the volu,me control - does anybody know if theres a masterr voliume  you can set from the console itself?
[05:57] <leileilol> is it too late for a package update for the openarena package?
[05:57] <On3> can anyone help with a quick apache question?
[05:57] <FastZ> LMAO @ shadeofgrey... the ultimate lazy
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> actually im wheelchair bound and permanently handicapped
[05:58] <leileilol> it'd really suck if 0.7.0 was just there, because that's gonna be obsolete shortly
[05:58] <Agent_bob> n-iCe several ways.    apt-cache search <something>    synaptic has a search feathure.   /msg ubotu find <something> in here works.  and there is a   http://packages.ubuntu.com   i think
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> i CANT get uo
[05:58] <FastZ> LMAO @ FastZ for being a dumbass
[05:58] <mutk> FastZ, Nice one..
[05:58] <leileilol> 0.7.0 isn't compatible with 0.7.6, and versa
[05:58] <FastZ> I'm entitled to one idiotic response per day
[05:59] <blind> wasn't necessarily idiotic... just uninformed :P
[05:59] <On3> FastZ, do i get one :p
[05:59] <Agent_bob> n-iCe normally i use the first of those.  but i'm a CLI kind-o-guy
[05:59] <mutk> FastZ, And shadeofgrey is entitled to at least one appology :)
[05:59] <FastZ> On3: you just used it
[05:59] <n-iCe> oh
[05:59] <On3> Fastz, Dam! lol
[05:59] <FastZ> mutk: that's true, sorry about that shadeofgrey
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> FastZ, we'll get over it a lot faster if you actually know the nser -- and apology accepted...  really theres nothing to say sorry for
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> just help me if you know how
[06:00] <Iced_Eagle> For games, I don't believe there is.
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> no i mean for the console
[06:00] <Iced_Eagle> I think the console volume control is only for media
[06:00] <mutk> shadeofgrey, It actually depens on what sort of speakers they are. and what the vol control really does.
[06:00] <FastZ> shadeofgrey: eh, it just didnt click that there might have been a logical reason why someone wouldnt be able to reach the volume switch
[06:00] <Andre_Gondim> does anyone know witch pack may i translate channel source?
[06:01] <mutk> shadeofgrey, If the vol control is for a pre-amp built into the speakers, then no there is no software accessable master
[06:01] <shadeofgrey> FasZ dude its no big deal.  a majority of the public has never interacted with a disabl;ed person before. im used to it
[06:01] <Iced_Eagle> shadeofgrey: I know. The only volume slider I know of is when you're listening to music on the 360. I think everything else just gets outputted at full volume.
[06:01] <arquebus> I got a gf8800GTX graphic card and now the ubuntu cd wont boot anymore. Anyone know what thats about? And if it will get fixed soon?
[06:01] <tushyd> can anyone help? Why does firefox crash on some youtube videos? It's weird, it happens at random.
[06:02] <blind> tushyd: which flash plugin are you using?
[06:02] <tushyd> i think flash 9
[06:02] <tushyd> it usually happens when I first load the page. It will just close firefox alltogether
[06:03] <blind> tbh, I don't know much about the differences in all the different flash versions... i just know i went through what you're going through :P
[06:03] <mutk> shadeofgrey, Do you have the remote available?
[06:03] <arquebus> I really hate to be without ubuntu, I got a partition waiting for it, so can anyone tell me why my 8800gtx card is stopping the ubuntu live cd from booting?
[06:03] <the_alamo> when i check my system monitor it shows that i am running to sessions of gdm (one inside the other)  is that normal?
[06:03] <tushyd> blind, got any ideas?
[06:04] <blind> tushyd: just try upgrading flash? also, what version of firefox? try upgrading that, too?
[06:04] <tushyd> i'm pretty sure I have the newest versions of both...
[06:04] <Agent_bob> arquebus did you add a graphics card ?   i.e. two possable outputs ?
[06:04] <blind> I'm not really sure, then :\
[06:05] <lopin> Anybody know how I can convert a video out of an Xvid, and into a standard mpeg1?
[06:05] <bouma> is there something like a keymap script in the ubuntu init ?
[06:05] <blind> arquebus: what exactly do you mean when you say it's stopping it from booting?
[06:05] <maestrotech> where is the binary "vncpassword" or "vncpasswd" ??
[06:05] <maestrotech> where is the binary "vncpassword" or "vncpasswd"  for ubuntu? (sorry)
[06:05] <RodGo> Hi i need some help
[06:06] <blind> Hi, RodGo.
[06:06] <Agent_bob> arquebus i'm with blind "<blind> arquebus: what exactly do you mean when you say it's stopping it from booting?
[06:06] <RodGo> i am using ubuntu 6.06 on my webserver
[06:06] <arquebus> I mean that after I hit enter for the live cd boot, it just hangs with a black screen
[06:06] <RodGo> and when i do a sudo apt-get update
[06:06] <RodGo> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:06] <RodGo> i get this error
[06:06] <bouma> Agent_bob: perhaps i should go with your offer to use the windows keys to switch higher and lower, please
[06:06] <lopin> arquebus: do you have enough ram?
[06:06] <arquebus> Agent_bob, what do you mean 2 possible outputs?
[06:06] <blind> arquebus: try checking out your bios to see if your videos going to the right spot by default.
[06:06] <arquebus> I have 2 gigs
[06:06] <RodGo> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu34) ...
[06:06] <RodGo> Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-server
[06:06] <RodGo> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[06:06] <RodGo>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:06] <RodGo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of udev:
[06:06] <FloodBot1> RodGo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <RodGo>  udev depends on initramfs-tools (>= 0.40ubuntu30); however:
[06:07] <arquebus> blind, what do you mean by right spot?
[06:07] <maestrotech> Does anyone know how to create a VNC password file in ubuntu?
[06:07] <Agent_bob> bouma pasting file /etc/sysV/winkeys.sh
[06:07] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d34f82396
[06:07] <blind> arquebus: well, i've got my onboard card and an nvidia card.. i had to set my bios to use the nvidia rather than the onboard
[06:08] <RodGo> please if somebody can help me
[06:08] <blind> RodGo: use a pastebin when pasting more than 1 or 2 lines. http://pastebin.com
[06:08] <Agent_bob> bouma you should probably use showkeys  first to see what the actual hex is for your specific keys.
[06:08] <RodGo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63892/
[06:08] <blind> oh you got it
[06:08] <arquebus> blind-ok, I'll check that out
[06:08] <arquebus> blind-thx
[06:08] <Julo> what opens .rpm ?
[06:08] <lopin> Anybody familiar with how to use mencoder, or ffmpeg from the terminal?
[06:08] <the_alamo> does the gdm usually show up in two parts in system-monitor, one as a sub-section of the other?
[06:08] <lopin> Julo: Those are for red hat linux...  Not Ubuntu, or Debian...
[06:09] <the_alamo> i don't remember how it looked before.
[06:09] <Bax_> my right hand is hurting from typing, but I need it to finish a paper.  Can i put it under ice to make it feel better?
[06:09] <Julo> damn
[06:09] <Tirefrog> Hey everyone... does anybody know what could cause my /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 etc to disappear after upgrading to 8.4? Only /dev/sda1 is there. It works on the gusty live CD.
[06:09] <lopin> Julo: You might be able to use alien, but I wouldn't recommend it..
[06:09] <blind> I've had good experience with alien
[06:10] <lopin> I've not had to use it...
[06:10] <blind> lopin, there's a lot of scripts to do what you want to do... tovid is one.. i used another recently but can't remember the name.
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog scsi emulation turns all hd devices into sd devices
[06:10] <Tirefrog> Agent_bob: oh, ok! never thought of that... so they'll now have sdx names?
[06:11] <mutk> That is the second person today calling it 'gusty'. I notice the small things
[06:11] <blind> mine was a typo, mutk :P
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog prolly.   i'm still using dapper   LTS
[06:11] <Tirefrog> Agent_bob: OK, thanks, I'll try it!
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog welcome.
[06:14] <wuxia> what's the right way to rebuild a ubunut package with debug symbols? (libgtk-x11 in debug mode is crashing my progs and I need to rebuild it)
[06:15] <JohninLex> hey what does this do    sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:15] <JohninLex> please
[06:16] <chris062689> It installs multimedia codecs
[06:16] <chris062689> Java
[06:16] <mutk> wuxia, I am not sure if Ubuntu does this - But in other distor's debug packages are sepeaate and available for install.
[06:16] <chris062689> Basicly anythig that's "restricted"
[06:16] <mutk> 'seperate*
[06:16] <JohninLex> is it a bad thing or a good thing
[06:16] <wuxia> mutk: the build in ubuntu ones are crashing, which is one I need to rebuild it
[06:17] <astro76> JohninLex: it's fine... installs the stuff listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:17] <mutk> wuxia, Ah of course. Ignore me then :)
[06:17] <neeto> what's a program to do video screencaps?
[06:17] <bouma> intelikey: ok so im checking out the loadkeys command, im wondering how the toggle could be done though
[06:18] <JohninLex> ah thank you both astro76 and Chris062689
[06:19] <bouma> is anyone adept at using loadkeys ? can i hook in a script this way
[06:22] <JohninLex> night, and thank you all for your help today
[06:22] <mactimes> Is there any software like CamStudio for Ubuntu?
[06:23] <syntax_> Oi
[06:23] <bouma> well everyone, agent-bob has gone, but i figured out there is a loadkeys alias called Last_console .. so thats the solution to having a key toggle between two consoles :P
[06:24] <arquebus> mactimes, yes  there is open source video screen capture software, but I cant remember the name off hand
[06:24] <TheDukeNY> Hello, I was hoping someone could tell me know to extend my screen to a second monitor as opposed to having my screen cloned
[06:24] <mactimes> arquebus: Well.  CamStudio is Open Source, but it only works for Windows.
[06:25] <mactimes> arquebus: I used to have a similar software for GNU/Linux, but quality of video was truly poor.
[06:25] <syntax_> preciso de ajuda como arrumo isso E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg--configure -a'to correct the problem.
[06:26] <On3> whats the best way to secure an OpenSSH server?
[06:26] <mactimes> syntax_: #ubuntu-br
[06:26] <syntax_> yes
[06:26] <arquebus> mactimes, I know this is a good quality one for linux, but the forum I saw it on is gone, so I cant look it up
[06:27] <mactimes> arquebus: RecordMyDesktop?
[06:27] <legend2440> mactimes: istanbul is somewhat eqivalent. not as many features as camstudio from what i've heard
[06:27] <mactimes> legend2440: Better than RecordMyDesktop?
[06:27] <arquebus> mactimes- no I dont think that was it
[06:27] <bullgard4> [GUI] What is the name of a field where you can select one from several items by klicking in it?
[06:27] <legend2440> mactimes: yes i think it is
[06:28] <yosho> hey, evan?
[06:28] <mactimes> legend2440: Thanks!  I'll give it a try.  I didn't like recordmydesktop at all.  CamStudio is just _perfect_, it is OpenSource, but I don't hold enough knowledge to port it to linux.
[06:28] <yosho> don't worry about it
[06:29] <RenatoSilva> what time is it?
[06:31] <mactimes> arquebus: Cankiri?
[06:31] <Leeuw> bullgard4: could it be 'radio-buttons' ?  (that's the name in windoze and some desktop config s)
[06:32] <bouma> ok i can bind right-win to Last_Console, but how do i convert the showkeys output into a keycode argument (decimal)
[06:32] <bouma> showkeys gives 7F FF, for the menukey
[06:32] <RenatoSilva> what time is it?
[06:32] <pipsqeek> 3:32 pm here
[06:32] <bouma> what should i use for keycode x (in decimal i presume, does it go over 256?)
[06:33] <TheDukeNY> you cant extend monitors?
[06:33] <bullgard4> Leeuw: No. A radio-button allows one to select one of severals fields as active. My question is about a single field where you can select one of several items.
[06:33] <n-iCe> bye all
[06:34] <Leeuw> bullgard4: ok, thatś why I asked, y'never know, right ?   In that case i do not know, alas.
[06:34] <Leeuw> bullgard4: a roll-down menu perhaps ?
[06:34] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: 2:30am, are you in Japan?
[06:35] <Myste> I am trying to disable my onboard sound. I have blacklisted the modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Despite this, they are still loading. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <Leeuw> bullgard4: thatś the one wizza arrow on za side, probably also not what you mean... :-X
[06:35] <pipsqeek> RenatoSilva: Australia. Sydney more specifically
[06:36] <joetheodd> Hey guys, none of my GNOME windows have borders or title bars. Is this some kind of new tech, or am I experiencing a bit of a screwup? I fear the latter. :P
[06:36] <bouma> well now that ive solved my problem, how should i enter the solution into the ubuntu forums? or similar so the next person can find it easier??
[06:37] <LSG> joetheodd: Are you using Emerald?
[06:37] <joetheodd> LSC, stock (as in, installed an hour ago) gnome.
[06:37] <mosno> joetheodd: Compiz + NVIDIA right?
[06:37] <bouma> some particular section i should put it ?
[06:37] <joetheodd> LSC, only change I made was switched default monitors and did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:37] <joetheodd> mosno, I'm not sure of Compiz, but NVIDIA yeah
[06:38] <mosno> joetheodd: i think there's a one-liner for xorg.conf that fixes it
[06:38] <LSG> joetheodd: Huh...that is weird... it happens to me sometimes with Emerald but i have no idea how it can happen with the native Gnome borders. Have you tried changing the theme?
[06:38] <mosno> joetheodd: i can't check on this system tho :(
[06:38] <joetheodd> LSC, I haven't tried that.. gimme a sec, I'll do that
[06:38]  * kindofabuzz gives joetheodd
[06:38] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: nice
[06:39] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: that's where 815 Ocean Air was from, right?
[06:39] <markus_> joetheodd: maybe you are using the nv-driver instead of the nvidia-driver. `cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv` to verify this.
[06:39] <joetheodd> LSC, where'd the theme option go? :P
[06:40] <LSG> joetheodd: System--Preferences--Appearance
[06:40] <pipsqeek> RenatoSilva: I have no idea.
[06:40] <Myste> I am trying to disable my onboard sound. I have blacklisted the modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Despite this, they are still loading. Any suggestions?
[06:40] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: don't you see LOST?
[06:41]  * pipsqeek doesn't watch TV.
[06:41] <monkeybritches> Disable it in the BIOS?
[06:41] <joetheodd> LSC, theme itself didn't do it, but changing visual effects did. That is, setting it to none.
[06:41] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: wow
[06:41] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: kkkkk
[06:41] <n-iCe> !skype
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:41] <joetheodd> LSC, but I did make my gnome prettier in the process
[06:41] <markus_> joetheodd: Then it's likely you are using the non-proprietary driver.
[06:41]  * pipsqeek just googled 815 Ocean Air and realised what you're on about.
[06:41] <LSG> joetheodd That means you have some problem with Compiz
[06:41] <Myste> Monkeybritches: Did that, and Ubuntu is still detecting it.
[06:41] <pipsqeek> I haven't watched TV in years. too much rubbish to filter.
[06:41] <kclemens> Kubuntu<Windows
[06:42] <joetheodd> markus_, correct -- the nvidia driver
[06:42] <LSG> joetheodd Lemme check if i can find your problem
[06:42] <Myste> it's an AC97 chipset
[06:42] <monkeybritches> Strange, because it shouldn't if you disable it in the BIOS...
[06:42] <joetheodd> LSC, I'm using a MX4000 I believe, if that'll help you.
[06:42] <cal> hey
[06:42] <cal> I need help with root's pas
[06:42] <cal> the one I set when I installed Ubuntu isn't working
[06:42] <joetheodd> cal, what's up?
[06:43] <swalko> sudo passwd
[06:43] <ng0n> cal  use  sudo
[06:43] <LSG> joetheodd I'm assuming you have the restricted drivers enabled, right?
[06:43] <Myste> Yeah. I'm stumped.
[06:43]  * cal tries sudo
[06:43] <joetheodd> LSC, correct
[06:43] <monkeybritches> Are you sure you saved the settings when you exited the BIOS setup?
[06:43] <Myste> Yeah
[06:43] <pipsqeek> cal: copy and paste the command you're trying to execute
[06:43] <Myste> It's been disabled since the day I built this machine
[06:43] <cal> pipsqeek: I just need to log in as root
[06:44] <cal> and my pass isn't working
[06:44] <pipsqeek> you don't log in as root
[06:44] <Myste> I double checked it, disabled the game ports as well just to be sure.
[06:44] <Myste> Even so, why is it loading the modules I added to the blacklist?
[06:44] <markus_> joetheodd: Try starting compiz from a terminal and post the output. `compiz --replace`
[06:44] <pipsqeek> you log in as your user and then su to root once you do what swalko suggested
[06:44] <gogeta> Myste why not just set the defult device on linux to your other card
[06:45] <LSG> joetheodd It's weird though, i've installed Ubuntu the other day on my sister's machine (she has an nVidia 8600 GT or something) and i had no problems
[06:45] <cal> well..
[06:45] <LSG> joetheodd Apparently it's a well known issue
[06:45] <cal> I can't get the root pass to change
[06:45] <swalko> sudo passwd
[06:45] <cal> hmm...
[06:45] <cal> ooh
[06:45] <swalko> type your pass
[06:45] <cal> I'm lucky now
[06:45] <cal> I wrote it down
[06:45] <FloodBot1> cal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <swalko> and then new root pass 2x
[06:46] <kclemens> what does rm / do
[06:46] <Myste> Gogeta: Because OSS has decided that it wants to use that card and won't use my SBlive.
[06:46] <gogeta> lol dont do it
[06:46] <legend2440> joetheodd: have you tried metacity --replace in terminal?
[06:46] <acidicbase> i always alias my rm with confirmation
[06:47] <joetheodd> legend2440, pastebinning compiz --replace right now
[06:47] <gogeta> kclemens melts your system
[06:47] <kclemens> a-v told me to do rm /
[06:47] <LSG> kclemens Removes files
[06:47] <zcat[1]> !grub
[06:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <gogeta> and a op will probly ban him now
[06:47] <joetheodd> legend2440, markus_, http://pastebin.com/m28c955c
[06:47] <n-iCe> is skype free?
[06:47] <kclemens> yea
[06:47] <n-iCe> calls between computers
[06:47] <zcat[1]> gratis yes, libre no.
[06:47] <pipsqeek> ubotu: you probably lost grub after the windows install because Windows wrote over the MBR with it's own crap.
[06:48] <LSG> n-iCe Yeah, you don't need to pay for that
[06:48] <pipsqeek> lol, ubotu is a bot?
[06:48] <pipsqeek> lol
[06:48] <nighthawk008> I am trying to install kylix on ubuntu, it sais it can not open shared object file -- anybody ideas?
[06:48] <zcat[1]> pipsqeek: actually, I 'lost' grub because I rebuilt my filesystem on a new drive
[06:48] <praktikum> hai
[06:48] <joetheodd> Is there any easy way to use LILO with ubuntu? Grub and I have a love-hate relationship.
[06:48] <zcat[1]> no windows has ever been on this machine
[06:49] <gogeta> oetheodd guess if you install it yourself
[06:49] <joetheodd> gogeta, I figured, I had to make sure I put "easy" in there. :P.
[06:49] <gogeta> oetheodd kik
[06:49] <LSG> joetheodd: I've found this, i hope it helps. http://geekybits.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-window-borders.html
[06:50] <gogeta> lol
[06:51] <Myste> is there a way to disable OSS so that any OSS applications will use AOSS?
[06:52] <Myste> or am I way off track?
[06:52] <Marupa> I have a grabbee-X video device which worked fine under 7.04, but now trying to use it under 7.10, it doesn't work.  I get a blue 'no signal' screen as user, and a green flickery screen as root, when using tvtime, which is the program I used beforehand.
[06:53] <zcat[1]> bah, 'tab' in grub is giving me an actual tab, not a command-line completeion :(
[06:53] <Marupa> dmesg picks it up, as it did before, so there's no change that I can tell on my end.  It works in windows, just not in linux now.
[06:54] <Leeuw> how can I change the behaviour of deleteon a mp3-player ?  (I want to delete directly, instead of putting in a trashcan on the device itself, wich doesn't make room for other stuff; have to delete twice this way, first delete, than delete trash.100 folder; is pretty annoyingk))
[06:54] <gogeta> zcat[1] e edits in grub
[06:54] <gogeta> zcat[1] and c i link = command line only
[06:56] <zcat[1]> OK, root is /dev/sda2 or hd(0,1) in grub.. if I run grub-install it keeps trlling me there's no bios devices... It was installed on this drive before... what do I type?
[06:56] <zcat[1]> gogeta: sudo grub from a booted system?
[06:56] <Myste> Sound Preferences shows two devices, the SBlive on ALSA mixer and the AC97 on OSS. I want to get rid of the AC97
[06:57] <Myste> Or else point the OSS mixer to the SBLive card
[06:57] <gogeta> zcat[1] your trying to boot from a command line in grub?
[06:57] <gogeta> boot /dev/hda0,0
[06:57] <monkeybritches> !intrepid
[06:57] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[06:57] <zcat[1]> I'm trying to put the MBR back on my sata drive.. currently booted from an IDE one
[06:58] <monkeybritches> Does anyone know what comes after Intrepid Ibex? J-something... ?
[06:58] <Marupa> Any ideas for the video isue?
[06:58] <gogeta> zcat[1] a nice tool for that is the grub live cd supergrub
[06:58] <Leeuw> Jumbled Jay-bird
[06:58] <zcat[1]> drives that have stage1 on them are /dev/sda2 aka hd(0,1) and /dev/sdb1 aka hd(1,0)
[06:59] <monkeybritches> Sorry Marupa, no idea
[06:59] <legend2440> Leeuw: in nautilus open edit >preferences>behaviour >bypass trash option
[06:59] <gogeta> zcat[1] has menus and stuff can install grub anywhere
[06:59] <Leeuw> legend2440: thanx !  will try
[06:59] <zcat[1]> I want to fix up grum's MBR it's currently looking for /dev/sda1
[06:59] <blind> just upgraded from edgy to feisty and now q3a won't run: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63893/
[07:00] <Leeuw> legend2440: does that go for all devices than ?   Or can I set for that device only ?
[07:00] <zcat[1]> How do I put grub back on the MBR so that it looks for stage1 on hd(0,1) instead of hd(0,0)
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] what did i suggest
[07:00] <zcat[1]> without burning another CD...
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] ubuntus only gonna install on the first drive
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] then make a supergrub floppy
[07:00] <legend2440> Leeuw: i think you have a choice wheter to put in trash or delete without putting in trash
[07:01] <zcat[1]> ubuntu''s not doing JACK.. I have the grub command line.. btw no floppy drive in this box
[07:01] <gogeta> zcat[1] then wast a cd
[07:01] <gogeta> zcat[1] its handy to keep around
[07:01] <zcat[1]> I don't have any spare CD's
[07:01] <legend2440> Leeuw: i think all devices but not positive
[07:01] <gogeta> got a pen drive lol
[07:01] <monkeybritches> zcat[1]: Read up on grub here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[07:01] <zcat[1]> I have a bootable system on hda, I'm in it. I have the grub command line. this MUST be possible
[07:01] <gogeta> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:02] <zcat[1]> fscking stupid page says tab-complete... GRUB here is giving me an actual tab, not tab completing
[07:02] <zcat[1]> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:02] <zcat[1]> find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:02] <zcat[1]>  (hd0,1)
[07:02] <zcat[1]>  (hd1,0)
[07:02] <FloodBot1> zcat[1]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <zcat[1]> Now what do I do with this?
[07:03] <liuyang> hi
[07:03] <Leeuw> legend2440: yeah, I found it, itś all devices, gives xtra option in contxt.menu
[07:03] <gogeta> zcat[1] that tells you wehere to put grub
[07:03] <gogeta> zcat[1] 1 would be your second drive
[07:03] <zcat[1]> I know where the drives are; I know where stage one is; how do I tell grub from the commandline to rewrite the mbr on hd(0,0) with looking for stage1 at hd(0,1)
[07:03] <snarkster> my laptop continually runs at 700 Mhz instead of 1Ghz.. How do i make it run at full power when running on A/C.
[07:04] <zcat[1]> Yes, I am booted up from my second drive. I want to fix grub on my first drive
[07:04] <gogeta> grub install hd(1,0) i would assume
[07:04] <mutk> snarkster, Give it some work to do - does it increase the CPU frequ?
[07:04] <snarkster> yes when i have alot open
[07:05] <snarkster> mutk: yes when i have alot of stuff open..
[07:05] <Leeuw> legend2440: is astrange option thoug, if I set it it deletes right away, but puts in main trashcan instead of tras-folder on device... Think something got lost in translation (using Dutch version)
[07:05] <snarkster> i wanted it to always run at full power when on A/C tho
[07:06] <ecubuntu> hey guys how have hardy, i have a question? i have my wireless network with mac adress only but with Hardy i can't connect
[07:06] <bazhang> ecubuntu: what wireless chipset
[07:06] <zcat[1]> how can grub tell me stage1 is on hd0,1 and then in the next command tell me hd0,1 does not exist?!!!!\
[07:06] <legend2440> Leeuw: i've never enabled that option mysel so i don't know how well it works
[07:06] <ecubuntu> intel bazhang
[07:06] <Leeuw> legend2440: whatever, it solved my problem anyway, thanx !  (Come to think I allways tell noobz in my day-job (work in PC-center for low-chance-people) to read help and try options, turns out I'm to lazy meself... ;-)
[07:07] <zcat[1]> GAH@!!! useless pile of crap
[07:07] <snarkster> there are no governors in the cpu freq scaling
[07:07] <bazhang> ecubuntu: meet me in #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion
[07:07] <ecubuntu> k bazhang
[07:07] <Chris[]> Hello, I just burned a text based install of Ubuntu 6.06 Server Edition, on a CD-R at 4x speed, and apparently 'Packages.gz' is corrupt, I get an error involving md5 and this file during setup
[07:07] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:07] <Chris[]> I think 4x speed is low enough, yes?
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <FloodBot1> liveinteractive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <bazhang> liveinteractive: dont spam here
[07:08] <Nick123> Hello
[07:08] <liveinteractive> scam or phising
[07:08] <Chris[]> Anybody?
[07:09] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:09] <bazhang> liveinteractive: stop now
[07:09] <Nick123> Does anyone know of a samll free parttion program i can download so i can make my windwos partition smaller so i can install ubuntu
[07:09] <monkeybritches> Parted Magic
[07:10] <snarkster> nick123: gparted and or qtparted will do that for you if you know how
[07:10] <Leeuw> Chris , sometimes there's 'to low'; if you use like 52x cd, the tracks in 4x get 'to deep' sort of.   Try 12x, always works best for me, better than 4
[07:10] <bazhang> Nick123: the ubuntu installer will do it for you--resize partition in the install process
[07:10] <Leeuw> Chris[]: ﻿Chris , sometimes there's 'to low'; if you use like 52x cd, the tracks in 4x get 'to deep' sort of.   Try 12x, always works best for me, better than 4
[07:10] <Chris[]> Leeuw, I've tried 4x, and 11x
[07:10] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:10] <blind> Okay, for some reason my sound won't work in certain programs. For instance, I have VBox open and Quake3 won't make any sound, neither will mpd.. but xfmedia and gxine and mplayer make sound..
[07:11] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com the best website of downloading linux distros
[07:11] <liveinteractive> http://emule.org
[07:11] <bazhang> !ops | liveinteractive
[07:11] <ubotu> liveinteractive: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[07:11] <mutk> Somebody ban this idiot.
[07:12] <Chris[]> This also happened when I tried installing debian.
[07:12] <snarkster> i just ignored him
[07:12] <Aces|> I have a problem. First time trying to install Ubuntu and I get through the Start or Install screen and through the loading screens but once I hear the drums the screen goes black. Through reading the forums its probably my Nvidia card. I tried some of the solutions on the forums but still have had no luck.
[07:12] <Leeuw> Chris[]: 11x ??  I don't think that speeds xists...   You're using the direct-burn option in Nautilus right ?   I've tried that several times, seems buggy, allways got errors.   Try installing Gnome-burner, that works like a charm, sort of a stripped down NERO, perfect every time
[07:12] <Chris[]> No, actually, I'm burning on Windows.
[07:12] <Chris[]> But I tried Nautulis before
[07:13] <snarkster> does k3b work in gnome? that is by far the best burner software Ive ever used.
[07:13] <blind> yes, it does
[07:13] <blind> if you've got kdelibs installed
[07:14] <Chris[]> Leeuw: It was 11.7x on Nautilus.
[07:14] <Leeuw> Chris[]: hm, strange..   Maybe you used cd's from market or something (they's sometimes old stock that been in the sun or something
[07:14] <blind> Anyone have a clue why my quake3 and mpd can't produce sound, but other programs do?
[07:14] <Chris[]> Leeuw, I've burned ISO's with these before.
[07:14] <Chris[]> All the other linux-running PCs in my house used isos on these same types of CDs.
[07:14] <Leeuw> Chris[]: and this one went wrong once, or all the time ?
[07:15] <Chris[]> All the time..
[07:15] <Chris[]> Not sure if it makes a difference that I'm trying to install from VMWare..
[07:15] <Chris[]> I don't think it should.
[07:15] <Leeuw> Chris[ maybe the ISO's no good (try downloading again, it happened to me once)
[07:15] <Chris[]> I would, except I tried 2 versions of Debian (small iso, large iso) and the ubuntu, and nothing worked
[07:15] <Leeuw> Chris[]: should make no dif
[07:16] <Leeuw> Chris[]: try dif solutions, but do with RWś for time being, 's cheapurr
[07:16] <Chris[]> RWs?
[07:16] <gad0> Chris[], perform a md5 checksum on iso...
[07:16] <legend2440> Aces|: are you using the LiveCD to try and install?
[07:16] <Aces|> Yes
[07:16] <Chris[]> I've never done stuff with md5, so I'm not sure as to how.
[07:17] <Leeuw> Chris[]: Read/Write cd's, erasable y' know
[07:17] <snarkster> md5sum <file>
[07:17] <Chris[]> Wait, what? md5sum the iso?
[07:17] <gad0> Chris[], https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[07:17] <snarkster> sure they should provide a md5sum
[07:17] <Guest10423> /server irc.relaychat.net /j #main
[07:17] <MRgood> hash can do it too
[07:17] <snarkster> yup yup
[07:18] <legend2440> Aces|: sometimes for certain hardware the alternate cd works better
[07:18] <Leeuw> Chris[]: Try Gnome-burner, or Brasero, that solved my blank-CD eating problem (really, burning CD's with Nautilus has never worked for me)
[07:18] <legend2440> !alternate
[07:18] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[07:18] <Aces|> Ok
[07:18] <Aces|> Ill download it and give it a try. Thanks.
[07:18] <legend2440> Aces|: ok good luck
[07:19] <Leeuw> Aces|: or try Xubuntu; we had problems installing ubuntu, ubuntu alternate, Xubuntu did the trick, later added ubuntu-package, presto !
[07:19] <Leeuw> !xubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[07:20] <wesleysld> ey Rprp o/
[07:20] <Aces|> Ok thanks again.
[07:20] <snarkster> Aces|: you could also do that Kubuntu load if you like KDE
[07:21] <Aces|> This is my first run all around so Ill have to find something that works and go from there.
[07:21] <Chris[]> Leeuw: What about gnomebaker?
[07:21] <snarkster> Aces| are you coming from windows?
[07:21] <Aces|> Yes
[07:22] <snarkster> KDE is very similar to windows
[07:22] <Fa> i love kde 4
[07:22] <snarkster> in layout but is WAY more intergrated than any version of windows
[07:22] <Fa> oh yeah
[07:22] <snarkster> kde4 just isnt stable enough yet
[07:22] <Fa> ubuntu with kde 4 beats xp hands down
[07:22] <djzn> hi... i have a dilema... I have 2GB of RAM.... should I make a 4GB SWAP partition or a 512MB will do just fine? The most critical thing I do in this computer is convert h.264 videos to VOBs...
[07:23] <bazhang> not true kde4 is stable
[07:23] <Aces|> Ok
[07:23] <Fa> yeah i still love
[07:23] <Fa> :P
[07:23] <gad0> snarkster< KDE is very similar to windows > gnome & xfce are similar too ;)
[07:23] <Leeuw> Chris[]: H :-D:-[, yeah, Gnomebaker, that's what I meant (there's no such thing as gnomeburner; well maybe myself... stup-id me)
[07:23] <Fa> kde 4 still has some bugs
[07:23] <snarkster> yah KDE4 is beautiful really..
[07:23] <Chris[]> xD, Leeuw. I believe I usually use gnomebaker, I'm trying it now.
[07:23] <Exteris> djzn, make a 2gb ram partition, in case you want to hibernate, or 1gb if you're low on disk space
[07:24] <snarkster> gad0 this is true that gnome and xfce are similar as well. but KDE almost looks like windows. Makes the newbies feel alot more comfortable I think
[07:24] <djzn> Exteris: I never ever hibernate... in fact, I have never used that feature in 15 years using computers
[07:24] <Fa> i just can't stand gnome
[07:24] <Leeuw> djzn: stick to 2 G, that's the most that can be managed, everything over get's lost in cyberspace...   500 will do fine, I have 4 Gig RAM, use lotsa stuff, never anything gets swapped
[07:24] <Fa> xfce is ok
[07:24] <Exteris> djzn, (i mean suspend to disk)
[07:25] <djzn> no, i don't use that... either the computer is off the plug or running....
[07:25] <mshadle> how do i force a module "e1000e" to be loaded -instead- of "e1000" ? isn't it a modules.conf or modprobe.d line?
[07:25] <snarkster> Fa: I hated gnome and was a strict KDE person, just decided to push the envelope and use gnome. When KDE4 reaches 4.1 or higher Ill switch back
[07:25] <djzn> because a 4GB swap partition never gets written.... 4GB is quite a space....
[07:26] <Fa> cool
[07:26] <Fa> 4.1 suppose to be out in the summer i hear
[07:26] <Exteris> djzn, with hibernate you can suspend all ram to disk, power off, and when you boot again, all apps are restored
[07:26] <gad0> did anyone ever had problems with xine/mplayer color settings & nvidia restricted drivers ?
[07:26] <snarkster> hibernmate just doesnt work well on this laptop.. I lose sound completely
[07:27] <djzn> exteris: will that feature replace the boot process in the future (is replacing?)
[07:28] <Exteris> djzn, i don't know, but i like it, give it a try
[07:28] <Leeuw> Exteris: does hibernate use the swap ?   I didn't know...   but how then can a 4G RAM sleep on 2 G swap ?   Or does it store states instead of entire RAM like Windoze ?
[07:29] <Exteris> Leeuw, you almost never use the full 4G ram for apps, a lot of it is buffer
[07:29] <Exteris> Leeuw, i have 2gb ram, 1gb swap and hibernate works fine
[07:29] <Leeuw> Exteris: OK, so buffers donb't need sleep ;-) ?
[07:30] <Leeuw> Exteris: but are U sure sleepfile ends up on swap ?
[07:30] <PhatKat> I'm trying to backup my system, my upgrade from 7.1 to 8.04 didn't go so well. I'm trying to use the Simple Backup Config but. For some reason no it always backs up to the /var/backup folder where I don't have enough space. I want to send the back up to a usb hard drive. Should I try and mount the hard drive as /var/backup?
[07:30] <Exteris> !hibernate | Leeuw
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Exteris> :@
[07:30] <gad0> actually its a little more complicated then tat...  Leeuw
[07:31] <Leeuw> gad0: tell me, I lovoooove needlez knowledzj
[07:31] <djzn> i read that with 2GB of RAM, it is silly to have a 2GB/4GB swap partition because it never gets written.... That 512MB wil do just FINE.. if not Less....
[07:31] <Chris[]> Leeuw: The ./dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted. [[[Again]]] :(
[07:31] <nsandiman> hi, I have a usb infrared device that I want to use on my machine...can anyone explain to me how to go about it?
[07:32] <Leeuw> Chris[]: and it's always the same file ?
[07:32] <gad0> Leeuw, i have only 1 hand so cant type much... better check on wiki page or google
[07:32] <Ntemis> hello
[07:32] <Ntemis> i search a tool for printing CD/DVD labels
[07:32] <Chris[]> Yep. Would it matter that my processor is AMD, should I be using the other version? I don't think it matters as long as I'm not using 64-bit on a 32-bit..
[07:32] <Ntemis> wich is the best for this?
[07:33] <bazhang> Chris[]: this will be a dual boot or only ubuntu
[07:33] <MRgood> hello
[07:33] <Leeuw> gad0: sure, no sweat, I had already scheduled it in my downtime for work this afternoon... thanx for hinting me thoug, now I know thereś a new thing to be learned, and that makes a good day, right ?   right.
[07:34] <Chris[]> bazhang: This is through VMWare
[07:35] <Gokee2> Will rm -rf /var/cache/* hurt anything?  I mean badly?
[07:35] <bazhang> Chris[]: through vmware? what do you mean? you want to install from vmware onto a harddrive, or just run the distro in vmware--what is the guest os
[07:35] <Chris[]> The guest os is ubuntu
[07:35] <Leeuw> ﻿Chris[]: well, maybe there is a problem with the virtual install, but my guess is the ISO if it's always same file; try a different mirror for download ?   (But use RW' s, don't spend all those blanks on tracing a problem)
[07:35] <legend2440> PhatKat: if you choose "Use custom backup settings" option you can choose where to put the backup under the 'Destination' tab
[07:35] <Chris[]> I don't have any RW's lol
[07:36] <bazhang> Chris[]: not sure of your final goal; please clarify
[07:36] <gad0> Gokee2, wat exactly are you trying todo ?
[07:37] <PhatKat> Legend244C: Ya tried that no matter where I set it it always goes to the default /var/backup
[07:37] <Leeuw> Chris[]: go get some then, before you use up your whole stock !
[07:37] <Chris[]> I currently have a system with Debian on it, and I wish to create a virtual machine through vmware. This requires that I insert an ubuntu live cd and use the client software to go through the installer.
[07:37] <Chris[]> My final goal, pretty much.. get ubuntu to install :P
[07:37] <simon_> Gokee2: aptitude clean? if you're trying to clean out your apt cache
[07:38] <PhatKat> I also just tryed to mount my usb hd to /var/backup didn't quite work out now I can't mount it period.
[07:38] <Gokee2> gad0, My hard drive is full so I need to free up a little room to let a dist-upgrade finish
[07:38] <legend2440> PhatKat: thats strange. i've only used sbackup once. i use partimage now. works very well for me
[07:38] <chris062689> OH WOW, theres a rumor The Orange Box is being ported to Linux... sweet.
[07:38] <gad0> Gokee2, then type sudo apt-get clean
[07:38] <bazhang> Chris[]: was that meant for me? if you do not use my nick I will miss it; am helping another user in seperate channel
[07:39] <Chris[]> Sorry, yes it was, bazhang.
[07:39] <PhatKat> I'll try partimage is it in the repo?
[07:39] <zero__> whats the ubuntu 8.04 beta chat channel?
[07:39] <Gokee2> gad0,  apt-get dist-upgrade is in the middle of running right now so that won`t work
[07:39] <monkeybritches> !hardy
[07:39] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:39] <zero__> thanks monkeybritches
[07:39] <monkeybritches> You're welcome
[07:39] <zcat[1]> http://pastebin.com/m7c35e60f
[07:40] <Gokee2> For that matter I better not clear apt`s cache....  :/
[07:40] <bazhang> Chris[]: you have the livecd running? or you already have ubuntu installed and want to install to another machine? not clear here
[07:40] <gad0> Gokee2, then proply del each package mnanually which isnt required by dist-upgrade... lol
[07:40] <Gokee2> Apt is the bigest thing in cache
[07:41] <Gokee2> Is there anything I can delete?
[07:41] <Chris[]> I have Debian installed, and am trying to install Ubuntu on a virtual machine, pretty much it's own partition. Kind of like a dual boot.
[07:41] <legend2440> PhatKat: i think so but in order to backup your main partition you have to boot from a cd that has partimage on it so the partition is not mounted as you back it up. I boot from system rescue cd to do backups
[07:41] <Ntemis> please someone tell me a good cd/dvd cover program
[07:41] <elmargol> Ntemis, inkscape
[07:41] <Ntemis> Please can someone tell me a good cd/dvd cover program
[07:41] <JohnRobert> is xmms not in ubuntu 8.04?
[07:41] <friedtofu> cd/dvd cover?..
[07:42] <Sonja> JohnRobert ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <legend2440> Ntemis:  glabels
[07:42] <icesword> !info xmms 8.04
[07:42] <ubotu> xmms (source: xmms): Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB
[07:42] <icesword> !info xmms hardy
[07:42] <gad0> Gokee2, you should have prior knowledge which package is required and which is not... tough
[07:42] <Ntemis> legend i saw glabels it says for bussines cards
[07:42] <ubotu> Package xmms does not exist in hardy
[07:42] <RussellGee> xmms is replaced with xmms2
[07:42] <legend2440> Ntemis: it also does the round cd/dvd labels
[07:43] <PhatKat> Legend244C: Thank I guess I'll try that to save my system. After you copy it can you remount it after a fresh install?
[07:43] <Ntemis> legent:will do for downloaded dvd/cd covers?
[07:43] <icesword> !info xmms2 hardy
[07:43] <ubotu> xmms2 (source: xmms2): Client/server based media player system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2DrJekyll-4ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 10 kB, installed size 56 kB
[07:43] <Leeuw> Chris[]: good luck, hope to hear some day what the prob waz...   have to go now. . . later !8-)
[07:43] <Chris[]> Later.
[07:43] <Gokee2> gad0, Ya...  That would take a while but I guess it would work...
[07:43] <Ntemis> legend: am inerested foe the out front and back labels of the dvd/cd
[07:43] <friedtofu> does xmms2 still use X as its gui - ugly? :/
[07:43] <bazhang> Chris[]: how about unetbootin?
[07:44] <Chris[]> Haven't tried, never done it before.
[07:44] <Ntemis> sorry for my bad english i am from a night shift :(
[07:44] <legend2440> Ntemis: yes you can copy paste downloaded cd/dvd jpg's
[07:44] <Chris[]> @baxhang
[07:44] <Chris[]> er, bazhang* darn it lol
[07:44] <Ntemis> legend: will do frond and back labels of cd/dvd?
[07:44] <buboolu> does anyone use AWN (avant-window-navigator)?  I'm doing the whole OS X look and I've also installed global_menu ... I read that AWN should show the "Places" and "System" menu in the menu applet, but I'm not seeing it.  Any suggestions?
[07:45] <bazhang> Chris[]: /msg ubotu wubi then check the ubuntuforums link for more on unetbootin
[07:45] <legend2440> Ntemis: it does them too. but i haven't played with that much. i just make the round labels usually
[07:45] <Ntemis> i see
[07:45] <Ntemis> thanks legend
[07:45] <gad0> Gokee2, yes... the package which were listed after running dist-upgrade will be listed... so other than these packages in apt cache can be deleted
[07:46] <Ntemis> glabels in synaptic?
[07:46] <Ntemis> or i have to build from source
[07:46] <newusr> hi
[07:46] <legend2440> Ntemis: in synaptic
[07:46] <bazhang> !info glabels
[07:46] <ubotu> glabels (source: glabels): label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[07:47] <newusr> updated my ubuntu and wireless isnt working anymore with the new kern image ? tried the forums but nothing worked for me
[07:47] <Gokee2> gad0, Every pack on my system was upgraded...  I got it though I sorted by size and got rid of kde-icons and a few others now I have 106m free.  Thanks!  :)
[07:47] <Ntemis> thanks
[07:48] <Ntemis> goodnight all!
[07:48] <legend2440> PhatKat: not sure what you mean. partimage makes a clone of the partition so if there was a problem mounting a drive before you image it the problem will still be there after you restore the partition with partimage
[07:49] <bazhang> newusr: this is gutsy or what
[07:49] <newusr> yeah
[07:49] <bullgard4> "~$ lsmod | grep 8139; 8139cp 24704 0; 8139too 27520 0." I would like to prevent that one of the 2 modules will be loaded because after a while after booting my computer looses its LAN connection. How to prevent 8139cp from being loaded at boot time?  (There is no modules.conf and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.)
[07:49] <newusr> devel*
[07:49] <bazhang> newusr: what is the kernel--and what is the chipset of the card
[07:50] <Chris[]> bazhang: I am going to try from a torrent before I mess with that, which if this doesn't work I'll try tomorrow.
[07:50] <newusr> shall i use the pastebin ?
[07:50] <legend2440> PhatKat: oh isee what you mean. yes you can
[07:50] <bazhang> newusr: for what? just the one line for the kernel and card chipset is fine here
[07:51] <newusr> ok
[07:51] <prashant___> hi does any one know how to change the prgress screen that comes up as soon as we boot ubuntu ;) please ask if need more clearifications
[07:52] <bazhang> prashant___: the usplash?
[07:52] <newusr> 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:52] <bazhang> newusr: and what kernel
[07:53] <prashant___> bahzhang i dont realy know its name but u know it comes even when we boot a live cd ( the first image that we see with a progress pipe of booting status)
[07:53] <[LMM]Iowahc> hy there, anyone knows a good script, which deletes folders without mp3|mp4|ogg|wav files in it?
[07:53] <PhatKat> Legend244C: OK thank I'm going to copy the whole partition do a clean install then mount it back and copy off what is need also this way I can set a local source for my repo. I just wanted to run it by someone before I went and killed my system also the system rescue is almost done downloading now.
[07:53] <prashant___> ﻿bahzhang: i dont realy know its name but u know it comes even when we boot a live cd ( the first image that we see with a progress pipe of booting status)
[07:54] <Fivesheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto [prashant___]
[07:54] <bazhang> prashant___: and what change did you have in mind?
[07:54] <newusr> 2.6.24-15-generic
[07:54] <newusr> 	Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-15-generic
[07:55] <bazhang> newusr: that is the hardy kernel, but you are using gutsy? any special reason for that?
[07:55] <newusr> nopes
[07:55] <prashant___> bazhang: i saw some options on gnome-look and they are nice ;) i shall switch to them . BTW when i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu the splash screen reads KUBUNTU which i want to get rid of
[07:55] <newusr> i just updated the system and it happened
[07:55] <newusr> :)
[07:56] <newusr> is it possible to get wireless working again ?
[07:56] <legend2440> PhatKat: with partimage you can only restore the whole partition. its not like drive image that had a browser where you could select certain files or directories to restore
[07:56] <bazhang> newusr: what does lsb_release -a report
[07:56] <siimo> yello
[07:57] <PhatKat> Ok well I guess I keep trying to mount my usb hd in the /var
[07:57] <bazhang> prashant___: then boot using gdm and not kdm (in sessions)
[07:57] <newusr> 8.4 hardy !
[07:57] <newusr> Description:	Ubuntu hardy (development branch)
[07:57] <newusr>  
[07:58] <prashant___> bazhang: yeah thats what i do ... but it still reads KUBUNTU on the progress barr
[08:00] <masterzulu> bom dia
[08:00] <icesword> ?
[08:01] <masterzulu> alguem pode me ajudar a instalar codecs w32 para dapper
[08:02] <icesword> english, man
[08:02] <bazhang> !br | masterzulu
[08:02] <ubotu> masterzulu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[08:02] <masterzulu> no
[08:02] <bazhang> newusr: install linux-ubuntu-modules and see if that clears it up
[08:05] <newusr> i gotta quit the update manager though lots of updates
[08:05] <bazhang> newusr: dont do that
[08:05] <bazhang> newusr: just wait until it does its work
[08:05] <newusr> yeah i will
[08:06] <newusr> :)
[08:07] <newusr> bazhang, its installed when i checked the SYnaptic
[08:07] <bazhang> newusr: also on router try unhiding the essid if it is set to that (when the updates are finished, or course)
[08:08] <newusr> version 2.6.22
[08:08] <newusr> its not hidden
[08:08] <newusr> shall i reinstall it ?
[08:09] <bazhang> newusr: those are not the correct modules for hardy; wait until the updates are finished then install new ones
[08:09] <newusr> what command shall i use or just the Synaptic
[08:10] <newusr> its ok i resumed the updates now
[08:13] <newusr> am supposed to use the wired connection here at the cafe and i stole the cable and got the ip config. hehhe i guess the cafe owner is gonna kick me
[08:13] <newusr> sorry the wirelesss connection :S
[08:13] <newusr> heh
[08:15] <bazhang> newusr: on further reflection it should be updated if you already have it --best bet is to finish updates then check to see that the modules match the kernel (which will be -16 by now)
[08:16] <Orbixx> Problem: Firestarter hangs on boot, causing it to hang. I have to intervene for it to continue boot. Also, due to it hanging, my network connection remains completely down until I stop it. Any ideas?
[08:16] <newusr> kewl
[08:16] <scone> I'm trying to get my computer to mount a separate partition, but the walk-through from ubuntu wasn't helpful
[08:16] <newusr> some guys told me to remove it but i guess that am in love with it :)
[08:17] <newusr> got a current bsd on the other laptop ;] bs is kewl but it seem like i just cant figure some stuff on ubuntu am either stupid or its way easier than bsd devel edition
[08:19] <Rainarrow> Hello guys, what's the best way of sharing files between 2 Ubuntu machines in a LAN?
[08:19] <MEtaLpREs> just make the folders network shares
[08:19] <Rainarrow> Because I heard samba is best for sharing between Windows and Linux boxes
[08:19] <Rainarrow> so if I have two Ubuntu boxes do I have a better choice?
[08:20] <MEtaLpREs> then the folders will be visable to any other machine on the network
[08:20] <icesword> !share
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Rainarrow> !share
[08:21] <scone> I need help editing my fstab
[08:21] <jburd> Rainarrow: SSH.
[08:22] <Rainarrow> MEtaLpREs, thanks, but what's the CLI equivalent of the operation? Since I may want to exchange some .conf files between two my two boxes, and sudo is more convenient than gksudo for me
[08:22] <jburd> Rainarrow: scp, sftp
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> Alright. I was trying to setup firestarter so it automatically began at boot.  I followed the instructions on the FAQ page only to discover I couldn't save the sudoers file.  So, I saved it elsewhere, then moved/overwrote the original with the edited one. It still doesn't work, and I can't edit it normally it says it should be "0440" when it is "0680"
[08:22] <MEtaLpREs> i dont do anything in command line unless i absolutely have to so i really dont know
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> eRRR
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> It should be "0440" when it is "0644"
[08:23] <Rainarrow> MEtaLpREs, ok, thanks
[08:23] <Silicium> hi all
[08:23] <Silicium> does likewise support PAM?
[08:23] <Rainarrow> jburd, thanks, would you mind explain a little more? of course I could just google around if otherwise
[08:24] <Rainarrow> jburd, I've not heard anything about scp
[08:24] <jburd> Rainarrow: SSH is used for secure access to resources.  scp is a tool to copy files over SSH.
[08:24] <Rainarrow> jburd, ok, so I need to setup a SSH server on one of my Linux boxes right
[08:24] <jburd> Rainarrow: You will need SSH server instances on both computers if you wish to access either of them from any one.
[08:24] <jburd> sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:25] <AdrianStrays> Can anyone help me?
[08:25] <Rainarrow> jburd, ok thanks, I'll google for a howto on SSH
[08:25] <jburd> Rainarrow: You can then access both computers using Nautilus or the command line.
[08:25] <ayah> Just one question right now. If I install the RC, will the update app let me upgrade to the final when it is released? Or will I have to reinstall to be completely up to date?
[08:25] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: you did all this to get firestarter to work at boot?
[08:26] <jburd> Rainarrow: Try this first:  Places > Connect to Server... > Service Type: SSH
[08:26] <AdrianStrays> Yep
[08:26] <Silicium> ooh
[08:26] <AdrianStrays> Adding it to just the sessions doesn't work.
[08:26] <Silicium> pam will works
[08:26] <bouma> satelite uplink bling :P, cyaz
[08:26] <jburd> Rainarrow: It will create a network mount on your Desktop.  Just click and you'll be able to copy files pretty easily.
[08:26] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: any reason to have the gui start on boot?
[08:26] <Tweaker> Ok, I got a quick question about Ultima. How would I get it to load on ubuntu?
[08:27] <newusr> ill cut the update and try to dial out using some kinda vpn
[08:27] <newusr> its damn filtered in the UAE
[08:27] <bazhang> Tweaker: ultima? is that a game or what
[08:27] <Rainarrow> jburd: I'm trying, waiting for apt-get to finish
[08:27] <bullgard4> "~$ lsmod | grep 8139; 8139cp 24704 0; 8139too 27520 0." I would like to prevent that one of the 2 modules will be loaded because after a while after booting my computer looses its LAN connection. How to prevent 8139cp from being loaded at boot time?  (There is no modules.conf and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.)
[08:27] <Tweaker> Yea, a very old game. Made back in the 90's
[08:27] <Rainarrow> Tweaker, Ultima? the game?
[08:27] <Tweaker> Yes
[08:27] <ayah> If I install the RC, will the update app let me upgrade to the final when it is released? Or will I have to reinstall to be completely up to date?
[08:27] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, Because as near as I can tell it doesn't start unless I activate it manually? I like to out either way
[08:27] <ayah> thansk
[08:28] <ECKZ> woo
[08:28] <bazhang> Tweaker: via dosbox? check www.abandonia.com for abandonware
[08:28] <Tweaker> thanks, I didnt no I could run DosBox on Linux
[08:29] <Tweaker> Well I guess I'll go and check that out and happy late 420
[08:29] <ng0n> hey.. when i click down an ap.. it goes away completely !  not to the panel !?!?!?  what's wrong ?
[08:29] <Rainarrow> jburd, thanks, it works very well
[08:29] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: you know it is only the gui, right? that if the gui is running or not iptables will still start
[08:29] <Rainarrow> jburd, and it's just what I want
[08:29] <jburd> Rainarrow: np
[08:30] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, either way I'd like to fix the sudoers file, how do I do that?
[08:30] <bazhang> ayah: sure you can install it now (or whenever before final) and then just keep updating
[08:31] <_2> oh<  i have an issue.    when i start xorg the keyboard stops working propperly.   anyone that might be able to put a fingure on why that happens ?
[08:31] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: that sounds serious, not sure how to recommend something
[08:31] <ayah> bazhang: I see, many thanks
[08:31] <Greenbox> hey, does anyone know a workaround for the bug that kills torrents over wireless in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:31] <bazhang> Greenbox: what bug
[08:31] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, Alright, I post on the forums, thanks.
[08:32] <Greenbox> bazhang, a lot of people can't get torrents working over wireless in 7.10
[08:32] <bazhang> Greenbox: you have an actual launchpad bug number?
[08:32] <Greenbox> bazhang: let me relocate ite
[08:32] <Greenbox> *it
[08:33] <bazhang> _2: when you start xorg? you mean when your computer starts up or what
[08:34] <_2> oh<  i have an issue.    when i start xorg the keyboard stops working propperly.   anyone that might be able to put a fingure on why that happens ?      this is an LTS dapper custom install.
[08:34] <_2> bazhang no.  when i start xorg.
[08:34] <bazhang> ng0n: click down? what exactly do you mean
[08:35] <bazhang> _2: how do you 'start' xorg
[08:35] <monkeybritches> How would you define 'properly'?
[08:35] <ng0n> bazhang - click down = minimize window.
[08:36] <_2> any of several ways.   startx   X & startkde     gdm      pick your take.
[08:36] <jeffimperial> Hi.. how do you turn off the default "screen saver" for ubuntu?
[08:36] <ng0n> when i minimize i get no 'icon' in the panel.
[08:36] <ng0n> the program just vanishes.
[08:36] <hellmtire> erm
[08:36] <_2> @ bazhang ^     sorry i didn't prefix your nick.
[08:37] <monkeybritches> jeffimperial: Right click on desktop > Screensaver > Uncheck 'Start automatically'
[08:38] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: hey man.. i don't have "Screensaver" when I right click the desktop.. just "Change Desktop Backgroun"
[08:38] <_2> bazhang i can't drop back to a console from xorg without i first use the magic sysRQ to reset the keyboard   the ctrl key doesn't work from within xorg otherwise
[08:39] <monkeybritches> Sorry, I'm using KDE, so I guess it's different
[08:39] <ng0n> bazhang: when i minimize a program it doesn't go down to the panel.. it just vanishes ?  why ?
[08:39] <monkeybritches> Anyone with Gnome is welcome to answer that :)
[08:39] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: Yeah.. I'm on Gnome..
[08:39] <friedtofu> ng0n make sure you ahve a panel that lists your task programs
[08:39] <friedtofu> ng0n you might have accidently removed it
[08:39] <_2> ng0n pager applet not running ?
[08:39] <jeffimperial> Anyone know how to turn off default screensaver in ubuntu-gnome?
[08:40] <friedtofu> ng0n try using alt + tab to see if it brings it up
[08:40] <ng0n> friedtofu: i got a panel on the bottom of the screen with trash can, 2 screens, showing the programs in the screens.
[08:40] <bazhang> _2: that sounds really awful; what kb is this? bluetooth or MS or somesuch?
[08:41] <_2> bazhang nope.  standard 104 key   ps2
[08:41] <bazhang> _2: ps2? same behaviour with a usb kb as well?
[08:41] <friedtofu> ng0n - so the one with the two screens is your pager/for your workstation ... try right clicking on the panel and add + and then try to find something that has something remotely with the task applications
[08:42]  * _2 doesn't have a usb keyboard to test that...
[08:42] <friedtofu> *workspaces
[08:42] <Rainarrow> jeff, System->Pref->Screen Saver=>uncheck "Activate screensaver when this computer is idle"
[08:42] <friedtofu> ng0n - :/ sorry i cant be more specific, i'm using xfce
[08:42] <_2> bazhang idk ...
[08:42] <friedtofu> ng0n but does alt + tab bring up your windows you minimized?
[08:43] <ng0n> friedtofu: no.  alt + doesn nothing.
[08:43] <jeffimperial> Rainarrow: Thanks.. Why does Ubuntu regard my computer idle when i'm into a full screen game after 10min?
[08:43] <bazhang> _2: that is really odd; got a ps2 here as well as usb and no worries either way--this is gutsy, hardy or what
[08:43] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, .....maybe all the mouse/keybd events was captured by the game?
[08:43] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, so GNOME received no events at all during your game
[08:43] <kevin__> jeffimperial: that happened to me too, i don't know why so ijust disabled the screen saver
[08:44] <_2> bazhang dapper
[08:44] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, what's the name by the way
[08:44] <ng0n> friedric: i minimized rhythem box... and it still is playing..... but there is no way to get it back up.
[08:44] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, ok I mean what game
[08:44] <Morph3us> Hi.. i need some help.. i have lost my data.. my partition is ext3.. how can i recover it? it's possible? :S
[08:44] <_2> Morph3us testdisk ?
[08:44] <taricris> hi, everybody
[08:44] <ng0n> bummer.
[08:45] <jeffimperial> any game i've tried so far that uses up the fullscreen, i think
[08:45] <ng0n> rebooted.  still not working.
[08:45] <_2> !info testdisk | Morph3us
[08:45] <bazhang> _2: ah dapper; seem to recall some ancient bug related to that, though it has been a while since using dapper--best bet is to check launchpad as that sounds like a really severe bug
[08:45] <ubotu> morph3us: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[08:45] <friedtofu> hm... yeah. i really dont know
[08:45] <jeffimperial> amaricasarmy, gl-117, battle for wesnoth
[08:45] <kevin__> it happened to me while playing tremulous, would be a good idea to see if it happens with other games
[08:45] <Morph3us> _2 i just run testdisk, but says that my disk is OK.. how can i recover my data?
[08:45] <ng0n> freidtofu.  thanks all the same :)
[08:45] <taricris> hi guys. I need help to install .bin file
[08:45] <friedtofu> ng0n maybe try killall rhythmbox
[08:47] <bazhang> ng0n: you deleted your pager?
[08:47] <Morph3us> ubotu exists another tool better? What about sysrescuecd?
[08:47] <_2> Morph3us ?     where did you get "testdisk" ?    the testdisk app in the repos should by default give you the option to search for deleted partitions and restore them.
[08:47] <ndavid> Does anyone know the name of the process that plays an mp3 in the background when you hover the mouse over the icon?
[08:47] <Rainarrow> Anyone here running hardy? My hardy RC would occasionally consume 100% CPU by the hald-inpu process
[08:47] <Morph3us> _2 sudo aptitude install testdisk
[08:47] <Ademan> has anyone setup zope 3 on ubuntu? i installed the zope3 package and assumed i'd be able to just navigate to localhost:8080 (the ubuntu docs suggested 9673 as well, but neither worked)  if it helps i've got apache installed and running right now, as i understand it zope has it's own http server, maybe the two are conflicting?
[08:47] <Morph3us> _2 in fact, i format my disk
[08:48] <bazhang> the hardy channel is thataway-----------> #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <_2> Morph3us then forget it.
[08:48] <jeffimperial> thanks fellas.. hope someone figures out why the screensaver prob..
[08:48] <jeffimperial> bye
[08:48] <Morph3us> _2 i am screwed?
[08:48] <bazhang> Morph3us: seems likely
[08:48] <_2> Morph3us pretty much.  unless you want to spend days searching by hand.
[08:49] <_2> for each file...
[08:49] <Morph3us> bazhang, _2 have you tested grescue?
[08:49] <_aeGIs> Does anyone know how to change the icon associated with mime/msword and mime/rtf ?  Clicking on the icon in properties just changes it for that individual file.  Please help.  I changed the association to abiword, and it opens fine.  The only thing is it used the OO icon still.
[08:50] <bazhang> Morph3us: if the data is really important you could pay the pros to rescue it for you--not cheap though
[08:50] <_2> Morph3us on a partitioned and formated disk.   no.   but i dont know of anything that can recover that.
[08:51] <Barbarello> Hi! Is here some SLAX channal or not? Give an address please!
[08:51] <bazhang> !irc | Barbarello
[08:51] <ubotu> Barbarello: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[08:51] <Morph3us> bazhang, in my country (Venezuela) i don't know any pros can do that (3rd world dude) xD
[08:52] <_aeGIs> Does anyone know how to change the icon associated with mime/msword and mime/rtf ?  Clicking on the icon in properties just changes it for that individual file.  Please help.  I changed the association to abiword, and it opens fine.  The only thing is it used the OO icon still.
[08:52] <ng0n> ok.. just lost the windows list - had to add it back.
[08:53] <ng0n> !#@!$#  silly me.
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about silly me. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <ng0n> thanks friedtoffu
[08:53] <bazhang> Morph3us: sorry, let me google for a bit
[08:53] <Morph3us> _2 i will test grescue, but, i believe you, i think that lost my data
[08:54] <_2> luck with it.   one can always hope
[08:54] <asbjorn> hi guys, does anyone in here have a clever way to get a borderless workspace-switcher?
[08:55] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howtorecover-and-undelete-text-file-in.html Morph3us
[08:55] <Morph3us> thanks bazhang :D
[08:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery and here http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p21.html Morph3us
[08:56] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[08:56] <MagicDuck> hi, I am having a small problem with screen refresh rate: I set everything fine with "nvidia-settings" and save the xorg.conf file, but when I login again as my user, System>Preferences>Screen Resolution apparently tells me I am going at 50 Hz instead of 75 Hz
[08:56] <KOJV> I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[08:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=710375 from this link Morph3us
[08:57] <tarandus> I have Dapper in my Thinkpad T22 (256 RAM, 900MHz Pentium III M), would you recommend staying with it? Which one would work fastest and demand the least resources, Dapper, Edgy, Feisty or Gutsy?
[08:57] <bazhang> tarandus: any way to up the ram on that?
[08:57] <tarandus> bazhang: no cheap or fast ways that I know of
[08:58] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:58] <MagicDuck> tarandus: probably Dapper is fastest, if you want even lighter, install xfce
[08:58] <unimatrix9> can i black list a driver from loading when running a livecd?
[08:58] <bazhang> tarandus: then dapper (gnome) is likely the best bet; you might want to try gutsy fluxbuntu or xubuntu livecd's just to see if they can run though
[08:58] <tarandus> bazhang: for 50 euros I might be able to have 256+128 instead of the current 128+128
[08:59] <bazhang> tarandus: likely not worth it, just a bit more and you can get an eeepc ;]
[08:59] <tarandus> Dapper is nice now, but it would get slower if I upgraded?
[08:59] <bazhang> tarandus: for what you have dapper is likely ideal
[09:00] <bazhang> MagicDuck: could you pastebin your xorg.conf please?
[09:02] <rohan> how come this news item was released -- http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop , but ubuntu release is still 3 days away, right?
[09:03] <MagicDuck> bazhang: it's at http://pastebin.com/d2cb2ac5e
[09:03] <bazhang> thanks MagicDuck looking now
[09:03] <MagicDuck> thx
[09:04] <gabbs> Unlike debian ubuntu doesn't have kernel-patch-openvz ?
[09:04] <bazhang> MagicDuck: with the 'xinerama' is nvidia-settings the only way to do it? this is gutsy right?
[09:05] <_2> howto set the keyboard to "x-late" from some xorg startup script, so i don't have to alt+sysRQ+r each time i want the ctrl key to work ???
[09:05] <MagicDuck> hmm, I don't think I am using xinerama -- I am currently on hardy
[09:05] <_aeGIs> Does anyone know how to change the icon associated with mime/msword and mime/rtf ?  Clicking on the icon in properties just changes it for that individual file.  Please help.  I changed the association to abiword, and it opens fine.  The only thing is it used the OO icon still.
[09:06] <bazhang> MagicDuck: you did that before the upgrade to hardy? or since
[09:07] <_2> what is a command to adjust the x keyboard map ?
[09:07] <MagicDuck> it's weird, I remember it working before - my real problem is not the system xorg.conf but the danged per-user "Screen Resolution" thingie. I wonder if there is a way to turn it off
[09:07] <bazhang> MagicDuck: there are some xorg wizards usually in the hardy channel a bit later who can figure that out--seems that xrandr or something else has taken the place of that and is much easier now
[09:07] <KOJV> tarandus: You should really consider that RAM upgrade... or why not a new machine?
[09:07] <KOJV> So, I just re-installed Ubuntu, X flavour, latest version... is there a GUI configuration for the fourth and fifth mouse buttons yet?
[09:08] <MagicDuck> will look
[09:08] <JPSman> What music player do YOU use?
[09:08] <MagicDuck> thanks
[09:08] <bazhang> KOJV: please pastebin your sources.list
[09:08] <_aeGIs> KOJV: No, look for the mousewheel script
[09:09] <KOJV> bazhang: okay how do I list / open it for copy/paste?
[09:09] <bazhang> KOJV: also your xorg.conf please to pastebin
[09:09] <KOJV> _aeGIs: okay, it's called just that?
[09:09] <KOJV> bazhang: do I use cat or what? :S
[09:09] <bazhang> _aeGIs: this is just an icon thing? the file opens fine with abiword etc?
[09:10] <gromozekin> damn
[09:10] <gromozekin> i did everything  you said
[09:10] <gromozekin> but
[09:10] <gromozekin> its impossible to login as root
[09:10] <bazhang> KOJV: sudo apt-get install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit also the same for /etc/X11/xorg.conf please then paste the two urls here
[09:10] <_2> gromozekin sudo -i
[09:11] <_aeGIs> kojv: I was mistaken... the script is enable-edge-mousewheel.sh and it's for using your mouse wheel at the edges to flip the screen... You need to edit xorg.conf for 5 mouse buttons.
[09:11] <KOJV> That's alright bazhang, I'll do it the old way... :p
 i need root-account,  not a root terminal
[09:11] <jussio1> !root
[09:11] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:11] <_aeGIs> bazhang: yes, I'm going to change the icon in /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/mimetypes/x-office-documents.png and see if that works.
[09:11] <_2> gromozekin for ?
[09:12] <jussio1> gromozekin: we dont support root accounts here, sorry.
[09:12] <KOJV> bazhang: here's the sources.list. http://pastebin.com/d61507e7d
[09:12] <bazhang> _aeGIs: okay! let us know if that works thanks
[09:12] <JPSman> lol ubutu
[09:13] <bazhang> KOJV: best to listen to _aeGIs for the mouse config
[09:13] <KOJV> bazhang: xorg: http://pastebin.com/d33ea59c7
[09:13] <JPSman> how can i start programming?
[09:14] <JPSman> I want to help, but I dont know where to begin
[09:14] <KOJV> bazhang:  but _aeGIs says he was mistaken and I need to play around with Xorg.
[09:14] <bazhang> JPSman: using python? or what did you have in mind
[09:14] <JPSman> uh - C
[09:14] <JPSman> is python a front end C programmer?
[09:14] <_aeGIs> KojiroSoma: yeah, it's in xorg...  I found it on ubuntuforums...
[09:14] <bazhang> anjuta then JPSman iirc
[09:15] <bazhang> JPSman: dont let the python programmers hear that ;]
[09:15] <_aeGIs> Section "InputDevice"
[09:15] <_aeGIs>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[09:15] <_aeGIs>         Driver          "mouse"
[09:15] <_aeGIs>         Option          "Buttons"       "7"
[09:15] <_aeGIs>         Option          "CorePointer"
[09:15] <FloodBot1> _aeGIs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <_aeGIs>         Option          "Device"        "/dev/input/mice"
[09:16] <umdebaba> @JPSman: python is an interpreted scripting language
[09:16] <gromozekin> python is not neccesary
[09:16] <KOJV> Can someone please help me? Setup my Xorg for five mouse buttons on Intellimouse Optical. http://pastebin.com/d33ea59c7
[09:16] <gromozekin> we have c and cpp
[09:16] <KOJV> aeglos__: do the corrections in Pastebin and post it. http://pastebin.com/d33ea59c7
[09:16] <_aeGIs> KOJV: I posted my xorg section for you
[09:16] <JPSman> umdebaba: which is to say a programming language?
[09:17] <bazhang> JPSman: diveintopython is in the repos fyi
[09:17] <bazhang> !info diveintopython
[09:17] <ubotu> diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[09:17] <KOJV> What's a good, simple text editor for system setups like XORG?
[09:18] <bazhang> nano kojv
[09:18] <gromozekin> vim>
[09:18] <_MaxPower_> KOJV: Use vim
[09:18] <gromozekin> )
[09:18] <umdebaba> jpsman: yes, but it is very different than c or c++. it is very good for learning programming. it will get you up to speed with the concepts used in all languages
[09:18] <KOJV> Thank you bazhang but I was looking for something with menues, like DOS edit.com
[09:18] <jussio1> !editors | KOJV
[09:18] <ubotu> KOJV: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[09:18] <bazhang> gedit kojv
[09:19] <_MaxPower_> gvim
[09:19] <bazhang> ;]
[09:19] <_aeGIs> koj: done
[09:19] <_aeGIs> That works for me
[09:19] <umdebaba> jpsman: what is good about languages such as python is that you can learn all about object oriented programming, network programming, data structures, etc without having to go through the headache of learning the c/c++ syntax
[09:19] <KOJV> Dang, _MaxPower_ I had to force shut down my terminal for that... that vlm editor is some true piece of hackersh!t... :p
[09:20] <eax> Hello :) I just uninstalled DosEmu, but when I rightclick on.exe files it still shows up? What can I do? :S
[09:20] <KOJV> _aeGIs: okay, link to the pastebin?
[09:20] <umdebaba> jpsman: its alot easier to learn the concepts of modern programming with python and learn to solve your own problems with it and then switch to c/c++
[09:20] <_MaxPower_> KOJV: use q to quit
[09:20] <_aeGIs> KOJV: http://pastebin.com/m1047a544
[09:20] <bazhang> got to head out for a bit; back later
[09:20] <JPSman> would everyone agree with umdebaba about that?
[09:21] <zerny> hi. I have the new hardy (installed from beta and upgraded) but have found a few problems. The new gvfs will now mount any usb devices. I have tried with two flash drives and a sata->usb. using mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt works fine. Any body else experiencing this? I have not found any bug reports about it on launchpad
[09:21] <KOJV> Thank you very much, _aeGIs!
[09:21] <_aeGIs> koj: no problem...  hope it helps!
[09:22] <KOJV> _aeGIs: yeah I'm sure it does... just need to find an editor to put it in with. :p
[09:22] <JPSman> umdebaba: So does python have a supportive newbie culture?
[09:22] <_aeGIs> that's for my Logitech mouse... it has 5 buttons and a scroll wheel (so that's 7)
[09:22] <legend2440> zerny: the help channel for hardy is #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <_aeGIs> koj: use 'gksu gedit'
[09:22] <zerny> legend2440: ahh sorry :)
[09:22] <KOJV> Aah....
[09:22]  * KOJV simply enters the file system and double-clicks xorg.conf..
[09:23] <umdebaba> jpsman- i would say it does. to start with programming i would choose python or ruby. it will get you up to speed with concepts and the mindset required to program
[09:23] <_aeGIs> kojv: you may not be able to save doing that
[09:23] <umdebaba> jpsman: lots of good books on ruby.
[09:23] <KLessou> Hi sometimes Xorg Freeze on my macbook (with Hardy) I don't understand why. Where can I search ?
[09:23] <jussio1> KLessou: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:24] <_aeGIs> kojv: you need root privileges...  gksu gedit will give you that
[09:24] <jussio1> KLessou: also check out launchpad.net
[09:24] <umdebaba> jpsman: i would try to learn ruby/python along side various c/c++ tutorials
[09:24] <KLessou> jussio1: thx
[09:24] <umdebaba> jpsman: that way you can see the differences between the languages and how things are done differently
[09:24] <KLessou> I saw nothing in launchpad ...
[09:25] <sjovan> how to split movies in linux (yes, it was a bitch before this script) ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4757165#post4757165
[09:25] <KOJV> _aeGIs: yeah... thanks!
[09:26] <KalEl> how can i compile java code with ubuntu?
[09:26] <KOJV> _aeGIs: however, can I apt-get gedit?
[09:26] <gromozekin> netbeans?
[09:26] <_aeGIs> kojv: aren't you running ubuntu?  it comes standard.
[09:27] <KOJV> _aeGIs: no I'm running Xubuntu.
[09:27] <albuntu> hey guys, can anyone tell me how or if i can add a second language option to my sessions?  i am getting a few boxes ready as gifts to central america and some of the recipients don't speak english.
[09:27] <_aeGIs> koj: ahhh...  I think you can...  try sudo apt-get install gedit
[09:27] <woodwizzle> I have to run a very complicated command to get a game to run, how can I encapsulate it into a shell script so I can run a short command instead of always copy and pasting "__GL_DOOM3=1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/usr/local/games/etqw" /usr/local/games/etqw/etqw-rthread.x86 -f"
[09:27] <fluvvell> KOJV: gedit may require a few gnome extras... how grunty is your machine?
[09:27] <KOJV> Thanks a lot, _aeGIs!
[09:28] <KOJV> fluvvell: grunty? Powerful? Celeron 2600MHz 1½ GB RAM.
[09:28] <_aeGIs> K0J: you're welcome
[09:28] <fluvvell> KOJV: should be fine. A few extra dependencies with gedit perhaps, I haven't looked them up.
[09:29]  * KOJV thought all these libs required wouldn't take more than a few clockstrokes on his CPU.
[09:29] <JPSman> I am frustrated.  If I DO write a program and compile it, in what format does it compile to?  and how do I run that?  in the terminal?  as a .bin?  (which I dont even know what that means)  I am so used to window's .exe that this linux thing is a headache
[09:29] <plurt> woodwizzle: make an alias?
[09:29] <albuntu> just not as big a headache as microsoft
[09:30] <JPSman> albuntu: i'll grant that once I neo out and "see the code"
[09:30] <plurt> woodwizzle: add the alias to your .bashrc or .bash_aliases if you have that
[09:30] <KOJV> Okay, that's nice... my right side-button right-clicks and the left side-buttons does nothing. :S
[09:30] <albuntu> if you're smart enough to write programs (anywhere) you're smart enough to learn the ways of ubuntu
[09:31] <fluvvell> KOJV: probably - so why did you choose Xubuntu and not the standard ubuntu? For most, its because their system is somewhat limited in power.
[09:31] <KOJV> _aeGIs: any suggestions? I'd like to move back and forward with them.
[09:31] <albuntu> hey guys, can anyone tell me how or if i can add a second language option to my sessions?  i am getting a few boxes ready as gifts to central america and some of the recipients don't speak english.
[09:31] <KOJV> fluvvell: well I do consider my Celeron limited in power. ;)  And I want a fast system, otherwise I'd keep Windows.
[09:31] <lachlan> Hi, I seem to have gotten stuck in a "zoomed-in" state, in which the viewport moves around with the mouse, and alt+control+plus/minus-ing doesn't seem to get me back into my normal res.
[09:31] <lachlan> Nor does xrandr
[09:32] <ushimitsudoki> (7.10) I have 2x8800GTS512 and 3 Monitors - using NVIDIA drivers. I can get 3 screens working, and I can get Xinerama working - but can't seem to get OpenGL to work in 5760x1200? Games only use one monitor? Tried creating a metamode, but can't seem to get that work? Anyone have a 2 videocard/3 monitor setup working for fullscreen gaming across all 3 monitors?
[09:32] <KOJV> fluvvell: plus, the default theme of Xubuntu looks nicer.
[09:32] <lachlan> Well, xrandr -s 1280x1024, in any case.
[09:32] <JPSman> well I am not smart enough to write programs 'anywhere' but I would like to learn
[09:32] <fluvvell> KOJV: My son uses ubuntu on his 2500 AMD and it seems ok.  Well, yes theme choice is a personal thing - not knocking your decision just endeavouring to understand.
[09:32] <KOJV> Anyone has an XORG config for Intellimouse Optical to use the side-buttons for back and forward and the scroll button for maximize window? Thank you very much!
[09:33] <JPSman> who do python and pearl differ?
[09:33] <woodwizzle> plurt: I need to put it in a bash script or something though so that I can then call that script from a launcher and add the game to my menus
[09:34] <imyousuf> does anybody know when GIT-1.5.5 will be available in Ubuntu??
[09:35] <DistroJockey> KOJV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63894/
[09:35] <KOJV> Sorry DistroJockey, that's the one I had already. :-/
[09:36] <legend2440> KOJV: read #2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870
[09:36] <jeffimperial> Anyone in the room using Deluge in Ubuntu-Gnome? Deluge won't launch until after multiple tries..
[09:37] <DistroJockey> KOJV: *nods*  try putting a 4 5  after the  1 2 3 6 7
[09:37] <gromozekin> yahoo
[09:38] <zupb> hi, people, anybody use ircd-hybrid? plese, help me whith logs for user messages....
[09:38] <gromozekin> now i can login as root
[09:38] <KOJV> Okay DistroJockey.
[09:38] <albuntu> hey guys, can anyone tell me how or if i can add a second language option to my sessions?  i am getting a few boxes ready as gifts to central america and some of the recipients don't speak english.
[09:38] <gromozekin> first of all i think you need to load your language pack
[09:39] <KOJV> Do I need to do something to apply new settings made in xorg.conf?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> KOJV: yep, restart X
[09:40] <KOJV> legend2440, that's okay I just want it to work for my own user...
[09:40] <KOJV> DistroJockey: dang.
[09:40] <KOJV> DistroJockey:  any fast command to do that?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> KOJV:  ctrl+alt+backspace  does that (it will close any running GUI apps)
[09:41] <_2> gromozekin heh.
[09:41] <titusg> how do I convert ace to ogg or mp3?
[09:41] <styx> good day...
[09:41] <albuntu> gromozekin, any idea how i do that?  i lookd in synaptic but can't find anything there
[09:41] <mne> hi. I have a funny TV<->VGA converter cable so that I can use a regular VGA output with a TV set. However, xrandr tells me that the VGA port is "disconnected". Possibly because the converter cable does not "emulate" a real CRT. Is there a way I can force xorg/xrandr to enable the VGA output (although it thinks that no monitor is connected to it) ?
[09:42] <albuntu> is anybody running a BILINGUAL machine here?  izzit possible?
[09:42] <styx> is there a way i could "burn" the ubuntu installer to a flash drive so i don'e have to use a cd?? thanks
[09:42] <ushimitsudoki> albuntu: my wife's machine is Japanese/English. Works 99% fine (the Japanese IME is a bit flaky)
[09:43] <eax> Hello :) I just uninstalled DosEmu, but when I rightclick on.exe files it still shows up? What can I do? :S
[09:43] <DistroJockey> albuntu: check in  System - Administration - Language Support
[09:43] <gromozekin> muhah
[09:44] <albuntu> thanks guys, konichiwa anginson! :)
[09:45] <gromozekin> damn
[09:45] <jeffimperial> Hi, all.. How do I make Deluge launch just by clicking it? For it to launch a window of itself, I need to double click the launcher three or four times, and then open a terminal and launch it from there
[09:45] <gromozekin> where is that guy)
[09:45] <zupb> anybody have an irc server on ubuntu?
[09:45] <techno_freak> gromozekin, who?
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[09:46] <_2> for ?
[09:46] <super> haiii
[09:46] <super> haii
[09:46] <gromozekin> haii
[09:46] <gromozekin> root
[09:46] <gromozekin> is rocks
[09:47] <ushimitsudoki> jeffimperial: i don't have that problem with deluge ... although sometimes if i restart X without shutting deluge down, or if i update when it asks on boot (instead of me shutting down deluge and then updating), I have to delete a file and restart Ubuntu or deluge won't launch (I dont' recall the file, but it is mentioned on the deluge site)...the error is something about something already being used (sorry vague, but this i
[09:48] <super> haiii
[09:48] <ere4si> I have a .deb package on a usb memory stick - how can I install it?
[09:48] <_2> ok i'm went.   shalom !
[09:48] <mne> styx: actually you don't need to burn anything. If your network card / bios supports it, you can also boot over network with PXE. or you use an USB stick to boot off
[09:48] <_2> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:48] <mne> ere4si: dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:48] <ere4si> mne - thnx I'll try it now
[09:49] <jeffimperial> USH: yeah..i don't think that's it.. it has something to do with launching the window from its background processes to the interface..but i'll try that anyway..u leaving the room anytime soon?
[09:49] <gromozekin> so long suckers
[09:50] <tengulre> I want touch timestamp of files  in dir and subdir , how to do ?
[09:50] <ushimitsudoki> jeffimperial: not sure ... working on an X problem so I might be restarting occassionally
[09:50] <jeffimperial> USH: right.. geting to it now..
[09:50] <KOJV> Can anyone make changes to the mouse so that I can maximize windows with the scroll button? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136
[09:50] <banditul> tengulre,  use touch -t file
[09:51] <styx> mne: i want to make my flash drive my ubuntu installer so i don't have to bring a drive to install ubuntu to pc's with out aa drive
[09:51] <KOJV> an anyone make changes to the monitor so that I can maximize set the screen to 1600x1200 at different various frequencies? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136
[09:52] <eax>  Hello :) I just uninstalled DosEmu, but when I rightclick on.exe files it still shows up? What can I do? :S
[09:54] <Jackubus> when installing ubuntu on a 4GB machine.  do i need a swap, and how big should i make it?
[09:54] <tinin> !amsn
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <matgate> hello guys
[09:54] <matgate> I need a little help form you guys
[09:55] <matgate> can u help me out?
[09:55] <DracoZA> Howdy. I have managed to get extended desktop working with 2 monitors and 1 display card but I need some help setting up 2 totally seperate desktops pls.
[09:55] <banditul> tell the problem matgate
[09:56] <olafski> hello people, I'm trying to run ubuntu in 1440x900 on my Syncmaster 940BW using a TNT2, but I can't seem to get it to work using the proprietary drivers.. the highest resolution it will show is 1280x1024.. any ideas? I tried everything I could find using google :s
[09:56] <matgate> i try to run live cd on ma desktop computer, however its working fine on my laptop, but on desktop, it take me to the command line, never go to the GUI so i can install a copy
[09:56] <DracoZA> olafski are you the one that posted on the forums ?
[09:57] <tinin> Hi, how do I know wich version of the tk library i'm using?
[09:57] <olafski> no I haven't posted anything on the forums dracoza :)
[09:57] <jeffimperial> USH you still in here?
[09:57] <mrthraz> hi i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tryed nndis but my led wont turn gree just stayes orange in the on position
[09:57] <jeffimperial> ushimitsudoki you still in here?
[09:58] <ushimitsudoki> jeffimperial: yes (you can prob use TAB to autocomplete names to I can see it better ;) )
[09:58] <DracoZA> olafski check out the forums, theres some useful info there, do a search for syncmaster. I have 2 931BW's running 1440x900
[09:58] <matgate> @banditul can u figure out wots the problem?
[09:58] <jeffimperial> ushimitsudoki: thanks.love being a newbie.. hehe.. anyways, it still doesn't do it..
[09:59] <jeffimperial> ushimitsudoki: updating i mean
[09:59] <olafski> I did, tried several things.. setting the horizsync/vertrefresh, disabling some edid option.. it won't show a higher resolution, even though I'm sure the card can handle it; ancient though it may be
[10:00] <DracoZA> olafski good way to try would be with another card then, if you can get one of course, I managed to get mine working on a GeForce 2 GTS which is 8 years old now :)
[10:00] <ushimitsudoki> jeffimperial: hmmm - I can only tell you that deluge works fine for me (and has for several versions), with the past exceptions of if it was not closed down properly, then that one file would need deletion and a reboot was required.
[10:01] <banditul> matgate,  what's the error ?
[10:01] <olafski> dracoza: I'm at work, and only an intern here, I don't think they'll let me do things like that.. is there any real disadvantage to not using the proprietary drivers?
[10:01] <guglielmo> ciao
[10:02] <matgate> i did not get any error when ever i try to boot the live CD on desktop it takes me to the prompt "(initramfs)"
[10:03] <DracoZA> olafski, I didnt use prop drivers in that instance. my xorg.conf is on the forums if ure curious (p.s. I'm still a newbie btw)
[10:03] <mrthraz> ﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position,lem anyone have similer prob
[10:03] <matgate> i dont know the command line, all i can install from GUI
[10:03] <MagicDuck> hi, is there a way to turn off the per-user resolution changer in gnome - it's giving me a world of pain
[10:03] <guglielmo> informazioni  montaggio video
[10:03] <GIn> my hd is failing :S
[10:05] <mrthraz> ﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[10:05] <DracoZA> Howdy. I have managed to get extended desktop working with 2 monitors and 1 display card but I need some help setting up 2 totally seperate desktops pls.
[10:06] <olafski> dracoza: thanks, I'm very much a newbie as well.. they have windows vista licenses here, but this pc is a bit too slow for that so I'm installing ubuntu to work with ;)
[10:06] <matgate> @banditul u there?
[10:06] <banditul> yes now i am
[10:07] <matgate> wot can i do to install ubunto on my desktop?
[10:07] <banditul> what command do u need
[10:07] <Johnson> matgate, get the install cd from ubuntu.com?
[10:07] <matgate> i just want to go to the gui mode of live cd, so i can install a copy
[10:07] <banditul> startx ?
[10:08] <Johnson> has anyone had the problem of trying to hibernate but the computer just going back to a login from resume screen
[10:08] <Johnson> matgate boot intot he live cd
[10:08] <matgate> i have the cd, which is working fine on my laptop, but on desktop it never go to the gui
[10:08] <_MaxPower_> Margate
[10:09] <Johnson> matgate you might need an alternative cd, which is highly unlikely tho
[10:09] <_MaxPower_> Margate: are you being presented with the command prompt?
[10:09] <matgate> no @max
[10:09] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[10:09] <DracoZA> matgate,  I had the same problem. get the alternate/text install cd
[10:10] <_MaxPower_> Margate: Boot the CD and hit ctrl alt F1
[10:10] <matgate> from where i can get one? the alternative CD?
[10:10] <matgate> i did hit :-P as i know this short cut, but it says "wait loading...
[10:10] <matgate> thats it, never go to the gui
[10:11] <thevoidreturns> anyone got any ideas on this problem - put my wireless card into monitor mode but its not picking up any networks at all. Thanks.
[10:11] <matgate> well, how should i have the alternative CD?
[10:12] <DracoZA> matgate if you know how to use torrents www.isohunt.com has the alternate
[10:12] <matgate> ok, thanks, yeah i know, i am the privileged members of many educational communities
[10:12] <_MaxPower_> Margate: Refer to this forum, I have had the same problem sometime ago. If you follow the instructions you will beable to get the the xserver working http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-172980.html
[10:13] <matgate> thanks @Maxpower
[10:14] <thevoidreturns> is anyone good with networking?
[10:14] <DracoZA> as long as its not wireless :)
[10:14] <matgate> :)
[10:14] <thevoidreturns> lol
[10:14] <_MaxPower_> thevoidreturns: whats the question?
[10:15] <thevoidreturns> fair enough - got a wireless card in my laptop - ive put it into monitor mode but its not picking up any signal at all
[10:15] <thevoidreturns> I've had this working before tho on a previous version of ubuntu
[10:16] <_MaxPower_> is the kernel module loading correctly?
[10:16] <thevoidreturns> not sure what you mean on that one
[10:17] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[10:17] <_MaxPower_> use 'dmesg' it will show you a heap of information about the drivers that have been loaded.
[10:17] <_MaxPower_> or if they didn't load may point you in the right direction
[10:18] <mrthraz> maxpower: you talking to me ?
[10:18] <thevoidreturns> ahh I should explain more - I'm trialing using aircrack-ng (on my own router) - the normal drivers working fine
[10:18] <_MaxPower_> I'm talking to who ever is listening .. LOL
[10:19] <mrthraz> lol ok
[10:20]  * DracoZA cant wait for 8.04!
[10:20] <mrthraz> it seem to work just fine on my lappy exept for wireless
[10:20] <CausticBurning>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[10:21] <JPSman> does anyone here know how and why the Beowulf clusters project got it's name?
[10:21] <_MaxPower_> I'm sure wikipedia will tell you all about it ...
[10:21] <JPSman> Noperz
[10:21] <JPSman> just says that its from the character - not WHY they named it that
[10:23] <thevoidreturns> what does everyone think of WUBI?
[10:24] <NateF> guys, i cant find my MAIN MD5sum from the MD5sum tet document, theres a list of sums, but i need the one for Ubuntu-7.10-alternative-i386
[10:24] <_MaxPower_> http://www.beowulf.org/overview/faq.html#17
[10:25] <JPSman> holy - thank you _MaxPower :OD
[10:26] <sachael> hi, does anyone knows a program that syncs with google calendar (and is not evolution)
[10:26] <_MaxPower_> "The Beowulf cluster gets its name from the sixth-century Scandinavian hero who was famed in verse for taking down a monster named Grendel. The computer version, which was designed to slay the monster mainframes, was invented in 1994 by Don Becker while he was at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center."
[10:26] <NateF> Does anyone know the MD5 of Ubuntu 7.10 Alternative i386 or a link where i can get it, becuase the text document i have list's ones for files inside the ISO image
[10:27] <NateF> this is the sum i get: 9a4ae3cfd68911a861d094ec834c9b48
[10:29] <richard> Hola
[10:29] <richard> algun experto en seguridad informatica??
[10:31] <NateF> so hows everyones day going so far?
[10:31] <_MaxPower_> NateF: have a look here  http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/7.10/MD5SUMS
[10:32] <_MaxPower_> I get the same from mirror.aarnet.edu.au
[10:33] <DistroJockey> NateF: 9a4ae3cfd68911a861d094ec834c9b48 *ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[10:33] <NateF> ok, so its not uncorupted
[10:33] <DistroJockey> NateF: matches :)
[10:33] <NateF> YS!
[10:33] <DistroJockey> nope
[10:33] <NateF> YES*
[10:33] <nxusr> does anyone have this device working?  ; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus
[10:33] <NateF> lol
[10:33] <DistroJockey> :)
[10:34] <DistroJockey> NateF: if you can wait 3 days, get 8.04 :)
[10:34] <goodhabit> how I can set-up 5.1 sound?
[10:34] <goodhabit>  I have purchased 5.1 soundsystem. But dunno how to setup it.
[10:36] <kane77> NateF, or get it now :) I don't really thing that there will be some major changes in 3 days...
[10:36] <Y0Gi> hey. I recently made a dist-upgrade that broke some stuff. now I'm looking for the older versions of the packages that were upgraded, but I fail to find them using the package index website and by manually searching some ubuntu FTP servers. where can I find those, if they are kept at all?
[10:36] <Y0Gi> I had a look in my /var/cache/apt/archives, but not all packages I need are there in a lower version.
[10:37] <richard> Hola??
[10:37] <richard> ningun "hacker"?? :$
[10:38] <richard> como hago para buscar otras salas sobre temas que em interesen??
[10:38] <richard> mierda!! creo que nadies habla castellano :S
[10:38] <NateF> if i burn at a speed of 1X would that be better to do then going max burn speed?
[10:38] <DistroJockey> NateF: yep
[10:39] <richard> como me muevo a tra sala??
[10:39] <NateF> ok, should i also verify the image file to?
[10:39] <aseeon> But 8x whould be almost as good as 1x
[10:39] <richard> help me!!!
[10:39] <_MaxPower_> NateF: The only time I burn a 1x is if I have a problem burning at the fastest rate
[10:39] <sami> richard: Please!
[10:39] <richard> :S
[10:39] <DistroJockey> NateF: wouldn't hurt
[10:39] <richard> nadie me dira como ir a otra sala??
[10:39]  * DistroJockey agrees with aseeon
[10:39] <richard> :@
[10:39] <NateF> well, i burnt like 3 CD's at 8X and i got error's or blank screens when i burnt that fast
[10:39] <sami> richard: Speak english!
[10:40] <richard> no :S
[10:40] <aseeon> richard: speak english or go to your native language ubuntu channel
[10:40] <richard> :S
[10:40] <DistroJockey> !es
[10:40] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:40] <babo> do all mobile phone numbers start in 0 ?
[10:40] <babo> with
[10:41] <iVal> babo: where ?
[10:41] <NateF> babo: what are you talking about lol
[10:41] <babo> iVal: everywhere
[10:41] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[10:41] <_MaxPower_> YOGI: this might help you http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[10:41] <babo> in ireland, they always start with zero. I have a form that processes mobile phone numbers and turns them into long numbers ...
[10:41] <iVal> babo: there in France they all begin with 0*
[10:42] <NateF> babo: my mobile nomber starts with a 7 so no they all dont start with a 0
[10:42] <NateF> french numbers yes
[10:42] <Y0Gi> _MaxPower_: thank you
[10:42] <babo> NateF: what country are you in ?
[10:42] <NateF> United States of America
[10:42] <babo> hmm
[10:43] <iVal> and for the international you have to dial 0033+the # without the starting 0
[10:43] <LSD|Ninja> no, silly, all phone numbers start with 555 :P
[10:43] <NateF> how would i call someone in germany from the US, would i dial 1?
[10:43] <_MaxPower_> In Australia the mobile (Wireless) network starts with 04*
[10:43] <iVal> Once I update to 8.04, do I keep this version until the next LTS ?
[10:44] <_MaxPower_> Nate: the german international country code is 49
[10:44] <NateF> o
[10:44] <NateF> ok, thanks
[10:44] <iVal> _MaxPower_: in France mobile # start with 06*
[10:44] <zvacet> iVal : if it have all you need why not?
[10:45] <_MaxPower_> so I think in the US it would be something like 01149*
[10:45] <_MaxPower_> so if you wanted to dial a mobile number in australia it would be 011614*
[10:46] <_MaxPower_> the same would apply for Germany
[10:46] <iVal> as for any other country
[10:46] <_MaxPower_> as iVal said
[10:46] <iVal> I've read somewhere that xChat is erased with every update of the system
[10:47] <iVal> how can I avoid this ?
[10:47] <iVal> I mean with every upgrade
[10:47] <Caf_Fiend> mobi numbers in australia are +61 for country code or 0 if you are inside the country
[10:48] <_MaxPower_> Actually its +614
[10:48] <Caf_Fiend> like if you replace a mobile number like 04xxxxxxxx with +614xxxxxxxx
[10:48] <Caf_Fiend> it will work
[10:48] <Caf_Fiend> sorry my bad
[10:48] <NateF> i have a question, if i was to call the Queen of England, what code would i use before i call the number from the US
[10:48] <Caf_Fiend> 666?
[10:48] <iVal> is there another IRC-client as xChat for Ubuntu ?
[10:49] <LSD|Ninja> What's the '+' supposed to mean in phone numbers? I see it all the time and it's not something you can easily enter on most phone keypads...
[10:49] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[10:49] <_MaxPower_> 00144*
[10:49] <DistroJockey> iVal: Pidgin is installed by default
[10:49] <_MaxPower_> the + basically means dial your international dial code
[10:49] <_MaxPower_> in the US its 001
[10:49] <iVal> the + means the international prefix or the national one$
[10:49] <_MaxPower_> in AUS its 0011
[10:49] <zvacet> iVal : I don´t use it but does it have saved settings in home directory?
[10:49] <LSD|Ninja> Pidgin sucks for IRC though
[10:50] <Caf_Fiend> ival: LostIRC? KSirc? Konversation
[10:50] <iVal> Distrojockey: pidgin is also an IRC-client ?
[10:50] <LSD|Ninja> non-dedicated IRC apps universally suck
[10:50] <DistroJockey> LSD|Ninja: how so?
[10:50] <DistroJockey> iVal: yes
[10:50] <iVal> DistroJockey: I did'nt know
[10:50] <_MaxPower_> good point zvacet .. you should have your settings for xchat under ~/.xchat
[10:51] <_MaxPower_> at a guess
[10:51] <iVal> to get back to my question
[10:51] <iVal> is it true ?
[10:51] <NateF> what would i dial if i wanted the call someone in the UK from the US
[10:52] <DistroJockey> NateF: the operator?
[10:52] <_MaxPower_> iVal: I can't say that I use xchat, but having said that I would be surprised if an upgrade would remove it from you system
[10:52] <Hikejinx> They're phone number
[10:52] <NateF> no
[10:52] <NateF> a actuall number in the UK
[10:52] <_MaxPower_> from the US it would be 01144*
[10:53] <LSD|Ninja> you need to dial the international calling code, the country code, the (UK) area code and then the UK number
[10:53] <NateF> what would it be for a UK number outside of the US, what would i dial before the UK number
[10:53] <LSD|Ninja> it would depend on just what country (and possibly carrier) you're calling from
[10:53] <_MaxPower_> LOL .. NateF are you having us on?
[10:54] <NateF> lol, i want to see if you guys know, so i can call the Queen of England
[10:54] <caris_mere> my computer says "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block(0,0)
[10:54] <_MaxPower_> I think google is your friend ..
[10:54] <iVal> for every country to access the international you have to dial 00
[10:54] <NateF> o, ok thanks iVal
[10:55] <_MaxPower_> NateF: have a look at this link ... http://www.londononline.co.uk/profiles/517138/
[10:55] <_MaxPower_> Buckingham Palace's phone number ..
[10:55] <goodhabit>  callv
[10:55] <NateF> _MaxPower_, thanks
[10:55] <_MaxPower_> Just ask for Liz
[10:55] <NateF> yes
[10:55] <jamsa> my monitor hax max brightness and contrast, any way to adjust desktop brightness? 3rd party app maybe?
[10:55] <jamsa> hax -> has
[10:56] <NateF> i found Buckingham Palace's number on the back of a private air plane drivers card
[10:56] <_MaxPower_> Jamsa: Have you tried the controls on your monitor?
[10:56] <NateF> also alot of other good numbers
[10:56] <jamsa> well all are 100%
[10:56] <jamsa> not enough bright
[10:57] <iVal> jamsa: do u have a laptop ?
[10:57] <jamsa> desktop
[10:57] <NateF> i call the White house for Bush, and they give me a stupid message center
[10:57] <Svish> Is it any way I can get Evolution to always accept my SSL Certificate from my mail?
[10:57] <jamsa> old crt this monitor, everything is too dark
[10:57] <_MaxPower_> Jamsa: I know that the nvidia controls app has brightness and contrast controls ...
[10:57] <jamsa> ok
[10:58] <jamsa> in ubuntu?
[10:58] <_MaxPower_> if you use nvidia graphics card you can try that.
[10:58] <jamsa> I use
[10:58] <jamsa> where I can get that? name?
[10:58] <_MaxPower_> Yeah .. In ubuntu
[10:59] <_MaxPower_> jamsa: Look here http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[10:59] <_MaxPower_> make sure you back up your xorg.conf
[11:00] <jamsa> ok
[11:00] <_MaxPower_> located in /etc/X11/
[11:00] <jamsa> ty
[11:00] <_MaxPower_> its pretty straight forward these days ...
[11:00] <iVal> does someone there watched Suzumiya Haruhi ?
[11:01] <zvacet> jamsa : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak
[11:01] <Svish> um... how can I get firefox to not block ports??
[11:02] <idefix> how do you screencapture a single window instead of the entire screen?
[11:02] <Kleidersack> Svish: How does firefox block ports?
[11:03] <HSNews> ïîäñêàæèòå ïëç ôîðìàò $ date, êàê âðåìÿ âûñòàâèòü ïðàâèëüíîå
[11:03] <iVal> idefix: with which software ?
[11:03] <Svish> i dont know, first time ive seen it
[11:03] <Svish> "This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has canceled the request for your protection."
[11:03] <Svish> "The requested address specified a port (e.g. "mozilla.org:80" for port 80 on mozilla.org) normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. The browser has canceled the request for your protection and security."
[11:03] <Svish> O.o
[11:03] <HSNews> sry
[11:04] <puccio> hi,my firefox and thunderbird don't start anymore,if I launch them from console I have no output at all about possible crashes.What can I do?
[11:04] <idefix> iVal gnome screenshot
[11:04] <peppe> ciao a tutti
[11:04] <_MaxPower_> idefix: try ALT+print
[11:04] <peppe> dove mi trovo?
[11:04] <idefix> _MaxPower_ cool thx!
[11:04] <iVal> personnaly I use GIMP
[11:04] <Kleidersack> Svish: Firefox warns you about the SERVER using a wrong port - e.g. WebServer on the SMTP-Port...
[11:04] <iVal> for my screenshots
[11:04] <peppe> qua parlate solo inglese?
[11:04] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - from the command line, how can I remove files larger than 10 kB in the current folder
[11:04] <DistroJockey> !it | peppe
[11:04] <ubotu> peppe: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:05] <zvacet> 	idefix: select grab current window
[11:05] <zvacet> 	
[11:05] <mahmad> hello narod
[11:05] <Svish> Kleidersack: yeah, i know that. but I dont want it to. how can I disable that?
[11:05] <zvacet> mahmad ask
[11:06] <idefix> _MaxPower_ zvacet iVal is it also possible to select a region on your screen?
[11:06] <iVal> with GIMP yes
[11:06] <idefix> like pixel 100,200 - 300,500 ?
[11:06] <mahmad> zvacet how are you?
[11:06] <iVal> idefix: yes
[11:06] <idefix> ok in Gimp but not with gnome screencapture :(
[11:07] <idefix> I just want to avoid double work
[11:07] <zvacet> mahmad :tnx for asking,but this chanall is not for off  topic
[11:07] <iVal> I don't use gnome screecap
[11:07] <iVal> so I can't help you
[11:07] <JPSman> How do you install a SINGLE desklet?
[11:07] <iVal> sorry -_-;
[11:08] <white_eagle> will hardy be released with FX 2.0 or with FF 3.0b5??
[11:08] <Kleidersack> Svish: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.security.ports.banned.override
[11:08] <jamsa> what is x server?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> !X | jamsa
[11:09] <ubotu> jamsa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:09] <Silicium> Apr 21 12:13:36 chfn[7084]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_smbpass.so)
[11:09] <Silicium> Apr 21 12:13:36 chfn[7084]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_smbpass.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[11:09] <Silicium> Apr 21 12:13:36 chfn[7084]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_smbpass.so
[11:09] <Silicium> hmm
[11:09] <white_eagle> ...
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Silicium: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <Silicium> mown
[11:09] <zvacet> jamsa : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[11:10] <_MaxPower_> idefix: there is a util called xwd
[11:11] <_MaxPower_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xwd
[11:11] <_MaxPower_> seems like a nice little tool
[11:11] <idefix> _MaxPower_ well, what you can also do is drag your window partially out of view and put other windows over them and use alt-print
[11:12] <white_eagle> ...
[11:12] <Viper111> hello, i want to create a vpn server so that when i connect to it from outside i will be on the same LAN and be able to view neighbor Pcs
[11:13] <_MaxPower_> To be honest I mostly use osx
[11:14] <_MaxPower_> so I'm not really the best person to be answeting I guess ...
[11:14] <Viper111> any body can help
[11:14] <_MaxPower_> but .. its alwasy nice to know
[11:14] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[11:15] <JPSman> holy hell are these desklets a pain
[11:15] <jeannoel> hello, can i speak french
[11:15] <mrthraz> any help would be aprestated
[11:15] <mrthraz> i dont know can you?
[11:15] <caris_mere> What does it mean "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown wn-block(0,0)"
[11:16] <laetitia> hello
[11:16] <jeannoel> yes i m french and my english is bad
[11:16] <laetitia> je suis francaise aussi
[11:16] <jeannoel> ouf
[11:16] <TRC2908> hello, any experts here to help me figure out how to mount my maxtor external hard drive (i think i need a mount command but first need to edit fstab
[11:17] <jeannoel> tant mieux rires
[11:17] <laetitia> ouai
[11:17] <laetitia> vous venez d'ou?
[11:17] <mrthraz> Unable to mount root file system
[11:17] <jeannoel> je suis du sud de la france
[11:17] <jeannoel> et vous
[11:18] <KOJV> Can anyone make changes to the mouse so that I can maximize windows with the scroll button? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136
[11:18] <laetitia> ou sa?
[11:18] <laetitia> moi je suis de bretagne
[11:18] <KOJV> Can anyone make changes to the monitor so that I can set the screen to 1280x1024@80Hz? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136
[11:18] <Viper111> hello, i want to create a vpn server so that when i connect to it from outside i will be on the same LAN and be able to view neighbor Pcs
[11:18] <jeannoel> la porte à cote.....
[11:19] <sidelil> excuse me with an intel core 2 duo processor is it better to use a 32bit or 64bit edition?
[11:19] <_MaxPower_> viper: it sounds like you want poptop
[11:20] <laetitia> vous avez kel âge?
[11:20] <GIn> sidelil: 32bit
[11:20] <jeannoel> quarante ans et toutes mes dents
[11:20] <PriceChild> !fr | jeannoel
[11:20] <ubotu> jeannoel: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <jeannoel> ok
[11:21] <Myrtti> !offtopic | jeannoel
[11:21] <ubotu> jeannoel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:21] <laetitia> adolescente et deux dent en moins
[11:21] <sidelil> GIn, ok, thanks. I was just wondering beacuse on the shipit website it says: "64-bit Desktop Edition, for computers based on the AMD64 or Intel64 architectures (e.g., AMD Athlon 64, and Intel Core 2)."
[11:21] <Filled-Void> sidelil, Im using 64 bit . However if you are nwe with Ubuntu I would recommend 32 bit
[11:21] <TRC2908> hello, any experts here to help me figure out how to mount my maxtor external hard drive (i think i need a mount command but first need to edit fstab  - how do i find out the mount point
[11:21] <GIn> sidelil: always go for 32bit unless you know what you are doing
[11:21] <Caf_Fiend> what time does the new ubuntu get released?
[11:21] <Filled-Void> The 24th ?
[11:22] <Myrtti> Caf_Fiend: "when it's done"
[11:22] <Filled-Void> Oh sorry
[11:22] <KOJV> Filled-Void, GIn, how come 32-bit is recommended for newbies?
[11:22] <Viper111> hello
[11:22] <Myrtti> KOJV: less problems with flash and java
[11:22] <Viper111> any bisy can help with VPN issue
[11:22] <GIn> KOJV: it is better supported
[11:22] <laetitia> vous etes déçu?
[11:22] <_MaxPower_> trc2908: you need to know what device it is.. try running dmesg | grep sd
[11:22] <Filled-Void> KWell Im new to it and I definitely wouldnt want anyone have to go thru the process of having to force install packages to get it to work on Ubuntu 64 bit . Or have to compile wine if they play games
[11:22] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[11:23] <Filled-Void> KOJV, ^
[11:23] <kajo> how do I change the date & time?
[11:23] <kajo> (using fluxbox)
[11:23] <sidelil> Filled-Void, ok. But would the 64bit give a much better efficiency?
[11:23] <rethus> Hi q all... how can i add a BOT to freenode.net, which keeps my chat open????
[11:23] <GIn> sidelil: no, probably a little bit, but not that you will notice. not worth the time
[11:23] <_MaxPower_> trc2908: then mount /dev/sd<whatever device and partiton> /mountpoint
[11:23] <Filled-Void> sidelil, I gues it depends on what you do the most. If its regular desktop use I seriously doubt you would notice the difference
[11:23] <mrthraz> RIGHT CLICK ON THE CLOCK AND ADJST THE TIME AND DATE
[11:23] <mrthraz> sorry for the caps
[11:23] <Viper111> any body can help with VPN issue
[11:23] <kajo> Mrthraz, that is not an option.
[11:24] <Myrtti> laetitia: you've been warned before...
[11:24] <Caf_Fiend> Myrtti: Does it come with a copy of duke?
[11:24] <_MaxPower_> Viper111: What exactly is your VPN issue?
[11:24] <sidelil> GIn, Filled-Void, ok thank you both very much!
[11:24] <rethus> ﻿how can i add a BOT to freenode.net, which keeps my chat open???? Like FloodBot1
[11:24] <GIn> np
[11:24] <Filled-Void> sidelil, :)
[11:24] <kajo> Rightclick gives no such abilities. This is fluxbox, not XFCE or Gnome. Is there a way to manage this in terminal?
[11:24] <Myrtti> laetitia: this is the absolute final warning to stop the French offtopic
[11:24] <laetitia> no i began
[11:24] <Filled-Void> rethus, register yuor channel and read up on eggdrop
[11:24] <KOJV> rethus: get a bouncer (BNC)
[11:24] <Viper111> _MaxPower_ i need to create  vpn server so that when i connect from WAN i'll be on teh same lan
[11:25] <_MaxPower_> Viper111:Are you happy using PPTP?
[11:25] <Ace_NoOne> SCP question: I need to transfer a file from my local machine to a remote machine - but the remote dir requires root access - I can't seem to figure this out
[11:25] <rethus> ive register the channel, but what is eggdrop... how can i get info about it
[11:25] <laetitia> i don't speack very much english
[11:25] <Viper111> will it solve my prob
[11:25] <rethus> what is a bouncer?
[11:25] <Viper111> i want to be on the same network
[11:25] <Ace_NoOne> I've tried SCP /tmp/foo.bar me@domain.tld:/var/www/foo.bar
[11:25] <mrthraz> ﻿﻿hi. i got a hp lappy, dv9000, i cant get wifi turned on, tried ndis but my led won't turn green just stays orange in the on position, anyone have similer problem
[11:25] <Myrtti> laetitia: then perhaps this channel isn't for you
[11:25] <Myrtti> !repeat | mrthraz
[11:25] <ubotu> mrthraz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:25] <KOJV> rethus: a shell that will keep rethus online to the IRC regardless of wether your client is connected or not.
[11:25] <TRC2908> _MaxPower_, thanks fro the tip theres "sda' mentioned due you mind haveing a look at :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63902/
[11:26] <Viper111> _MaxPower_ u knew wat ii mean
[11:26] <kajo> Also, I anticipate changing my time will give me the error that doesn't allow me to run as sudo because of the time problem (I've had that before...); how can I change the date & time in terminal, and also how do I prevent the aforementioned problem?
[11:26] <laetitia> maybe
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: can we have a pastebin of lspci and lsusb please
[11:26] <rethus> is this bouncer-shell on my pc, or in the internet?
[11:26] <laetitia> i don't know before
[11:26] <Filled-Void> rethus, Im not sure If what I said is actually what you need but its worth a check. You could check for EWggdrop which helps you create a bot for your channel . It is also in the repos. There wa another easy en to configure btu I forgot the name >.<
[11:26] <gsevil> Did someone install and run ModelSim?
[11:27] <mrthraz> i have no i dea what your talking about
[11:27] <KOJV> rethus: on an internet server...
[11:27] <_MaxPower_> Viper111: There are several kinds of VPN PPTP and IPSEC come to mind. it all depends on what you are trying to achive. Site to SIe VPN? Single User VPN?
[11:27] <rethus> where can i find it?
[11:27] <DistroJockey> !fr | laetitia Maybe here? ->
[11:27] <nxusr>  does anyone have this device working?  ; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> !paste | mrthraz
[11:27] <ubotu> mrthraz: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:27] <kajo> Mrthraz: When you change your time (when I have, when running gnome), it then doesn't allow you to use 'sudo' in the terminal- it gives an error about the time being too far in advance or something. I wanted to prevent that.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: if you run lspci and copy / p[aste it there we can see the output
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: then run lsusb and copy paste that there as well
[11:28] <mrthraz> ﻿ActionParsnip:hpthraz@ubuntu1:~$ lspci
[11:28] <mrthraz> 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
[11:28] <mrthraz> 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
[11:28] <mrthraz> 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
[11:28] <mrthraz> 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
[11:28] <FloodBot1> mrthraz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <KOJV> rethus: search for "BNC provider" on Google.
[11:29] <kajo> I wonder if he knows why he was kicked?
[11:29] <rethus> thanks a lot
[11:29] <kajo> lol, mrthraz. xD
[11:29] <mrthraz> wow thats alot of strings
[11:29] <Scrounch> hello
[11:29] <mrthraz> sorry
[11:29] <Keule> to
[11:29] <Syntux> what would be the problem if you get 'Floating point exception' error when you run an application ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: yep, that all the devices in your system
[11:29] <gsevil> Do you know how to run ModelSim HDL in Ubuntu
[11:29] <laetitia> y a t'il une personne francaise?
[11:30] <DistroJockey> !fr | laetitia
[11:30] <ubotu> laetitia: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <mrthraz> how do i so that wi out flooding the chat?
[11:30] <kajo> Does no one know how to change the time in ubuntu?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: like i said use pastebin
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !paste mrthraz
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste mrthraz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !pastebin
[11:30] <mrthraz> what is that?
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:31] <Filled-Void> mrthraz, go to www.pastebin.com    Paste in your message or whatever you need to show and then provide the link here
[11:31] <_MaxPower_> TRC2908: A quick look at google tells me that there maybe a bug with your host controller ...
[11:31] <Keule> i was logged out - could someone tell me about menu-preload?? who answered me?
[11:32] <TRC2908> _MaxPower_, my what?
[11:32] <_MaxPower_> TRC2908: USB Controller ... Kernel Level stuff
[11:32] <nxusr>  does anyone have this device working?  ; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus
[11:32] <zvacet> kajo : right click on time applet om upper panel
[11:32] <mrthraz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63904/
[11:32] <mojo> How do I tell grub where to find /boot?  I installed 8.04rc in a spare partition on my boot hard disk (ide/ata) but it still points to the old install for /boot; I have a new /boot in a separate part. on another (sata) disk.  This *should* work right?  I don't want grub to re-build the menu.lst thogh.  Ideas?
[11:32] <ricanelite> my ipod is showing up in the desktop but it is not showing up either on Banshee or Amarok
[11:33] <_MaxPower_> nxusr: Have you followed the instructions included in that wiki page?
[11:33] <TRC2908> _MaxPower_, by the way it works well on windows
[11:33] <yahooshua> youtube doesn't work?
[11:33] <nxusr> _MaxPower_ lol,
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> nxusr: looks comprehensive enough, cant you get it going?
[11:34] <nxusr> ActionParsnip, if my kernel was 2.6.20
[11:34] <nxusr> yes
[11:34] <yahooshua> It's triple 3 o'clock
[11:34] <zvacet> mojo :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[11:34] <yahooshua> could someone give me a high five for finally getting onto IRC
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> mrthraz: google for ubuntu BCM94311MCG and you should get a starting point
[11:34] <TRC2908> _MaxPower_, although i have to download seagate software when i rebooted it for windows
[11:35] <djouallah> hello, i am very intersted in wubi, but small question can i made the boot option in a flashdisk
[11:35] <yahooshua> I have a degree in Tcom and just barely got on here
[11:35] <_MaxPower_> nxusr: I don't personally have that remote, however I have had a bit of experience with mythtv and if you follow those wiki guides most of the time they work.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> $ cat /proc/hi5 > yahooshua
[11:35] <yahooshua> have been trying to figure it out for a while
[11:35] <yahooshua> still don't know how I did it
[11:35] <nxusr> ActionParsnip, _MaxPower_ , did you see the edit on the page? it does not work
[11:35] <yahooshua> ahah
[11:35] <yahooshua> thanx actionparsnip
[11:35] <Keule> how can i preload the startmenu after i logged on? - it lasts 2-4 secs when i klick on it the first time.... :(
[11:35] <mrthraz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63906/
[11:36] <djouallah> as i don't want my IT adminastrator to know i use ubuntu in pc work
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> nxusr: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-316278.html
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> yahooshua: what client you on?
[11:36] <nxusr> _MaxPower_, I have followed all the wikis including the gentoo one
[11:36] <yahooshua> xchat
[11:36] <ricanelite> how can i get either banshee or amarok seeing my ipod
[11:36] <yahooshua> it just got on
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | ricanelite
[11:36] <ubotu> ricanelite: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:36] <yahooshua> very easy
[11:36] <ricanelite> i have amarok installed in y gnome desktop
[11:37] <yahooshua> not like pigeon
[11:37] <yahooshua> or others
[11:37] <nxusr> ActionParsnip, saw that too
[11:37] <_MaxPower_> nxusr: welcome to joys mythtv ;-) I must admit it took me a couple of years have a fully working system
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> nxusr: then you are doing what im doing as I dont use remotes, sorry bro
[11:37] <julle_> Is it possible to connect a projector and use it as Screen #2 in ubuntu?
[11:37] <nxusr> ActionParsnip, at one point i had to boot with livecd cause adding th alias frozed the kernel
[11:37] <mojo> zvacet: thanks
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> yahooshua: I use pidgin to trc, all chat in 1 client
[11:38] <zvacet> mojo : np
[11:38] <yahooshua> ya
[11:38] <yahooshua> trc?
[11:38] <_MaxPower_> TRC2908: All I can find on google about your problem is that its a driver problem. All I can recommend is trying a later version kernel
[11:39] <timelost> what's the command to setup my xorg.conf file the way ubuntu does it when it's originally installed?
[11:39] <yahooshua> ActionParsnip: trc?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> trc?
[11:39] <timelost> i don't have a backup of my original xorg.conf
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> irc = trc (typo)
[11:39] <TRC2908> _MaxPower_, the latest version of ubuntu ?
[11:39] <yahooshua> ok, I see
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> timelost: you should always backup xorg.conf before playing so it can be rolled back
[11:40] <|ns|nR8> i got a 3g wireless usb modem working in ubuntu...but randomly the computer will freeze...i tried the modem in another ubuntu pc and it will randomly freeze aswell...requiring hard reset..any ideas please?
[11:40] <zvacet> timelost  : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[11:40] <Keule> ﻿ how can i preload the startmenu after i logged on? - it lasts 2-4 secs when i klick on it the first time....
[11:40] <jaffarkelshac> what other text-based apps are there that run in terminal (like mp3blaster, alsamixer)..
[11:40] <timelost> that doesn't help it's too late for that
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jaffarkelshac: mplayer
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jaffarkelshac: play
[11:40] <timelost> i can get it working myself, but not as well as ubuntu had it set up (i've been using linux for 8 years)
[11:41] <zvacet> timelost : what did you done?
[11:41] <yahooshua> Anyone: help me with getting flash plugin installed refer to a wiki or forum of some sort?
[11:41] <rethus> anyone know a online botservice for irc-bots?
[11:41] <jaffarkelshac> cheers ActionParsnip
[11:41] <timelost> modprobe fglrx, then changed the driver to fglrx and restarted gdm
[11:41] <timelost> put it back to ati, but the everything is jerky now
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> jaffarkelshac:  np duder
[11:42] <timelost> think it was using the open source ati driver, but not really sure
[11:42] <timelost> i know there has to be some kind of command ubuntu runs during installation that originally sets up xorg.conf
[11:42] <yahooshua> ActionParsnip: do you like pigin?
[11:43] <damo22> timelost: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:43] <zvacet> timelost : i think it make back up automaticly,so search in X11 to find it.That is all I can think of right now
[11:43] <DistroJockey> timelost: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:44] <ubuntuuuuuututuu> hi all
[11:44] <timelost> it doesn't backup automatically if you manually edit it
[11:44] <yahooshua> Anyone: help me with getting flash plugin installed refer to a wiki or forum of some sort?
[11:44] <diego> ola
[11:44] <_MaxPower_> timelost: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:44] <timelost> and dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg just gave a VERY basic xorg.conf that is nothing like what ubuntu had set up for me
[11:44] <|ns|nR8> everyone hanging out for 24th ?
[11:44] <zvacet> timelost : In that case no
[11:44] <Caf_Fiend> what happens on the 24th
[11:45] <damo22> cant wait for 24th
[11:45] <damo22> hardy comes out
[11:45]  * djouallah is downloading kubuntu8.04 
[11:45] <gradin> anybody have a few seconds to make a phonecall?
[11:45] <|ns|nR8> if you install 8.04 beta....will it update to full version  ?
[11:45] <timelost> it'd be silly to reinstall ubuntu because of something so trivial
[11:45] <Caf_Fiend> hardy is gay?
[11:45] <ikonia> can't wait.....wow, that seems a bit well, sad
[11:45] <ubuntuuuuuututuu> who can tell me whay ubuntustudio 8.04 was relased before ubuntu 8.04? is it the same distro with different packages for audio&video editing?
[11:45] <zvacet> Caf_Fiend : just another day in life
[11:45] <|ns|nR8> err stable version
[11:45] <ikonia> |ns|nR8: yes, you should be able to although I would personally trust a clean install more
[11:45] <gradin> i need someone to help me test my voicemail script would anybody like to volunteer to leave me a voicemail?
[11:45] <Keule> sorry that i paste it ...so often...﻿ how can i preload the startmenu after i logged on? - it lasts 2-4 secs when i klick on it the first time....  - does anybody having a solution?
[11:45] <|ns|nR8> yeah im still running 7.10...but ive been very tempted
[11:46] <|ns|nR8> i was just curious thanks
[11:46] <ikonia> ubuntuuuuuututuu: please show me where ubuntu studio 8.04 is released ?
[11:46] <zvacet> ubuntuuuuuututuu :yes!
[11:46] <Caf_Fiend> so, is there a how to upgrade faq set up at somewebpage?
[11:46] <_MaxPower_> timelost: what video card are you using?
[11:46] <ubuntuuuuuututuu> ikonia http://ubuntustudio.org/home end of page
[11:47] <idefix> _MaxPower_ the xwd utility doesn't offer a region capture just an X-window capture
[11:47] <yahooshua> isn't 8.04 already pretty much released unofficially?
[11:47] <kajo> it is in 3 days, isn't it?
[11:48] <zvacet> yahooshua : it is not unoffically it is RC
[11:48] <yahooshua> RC cola
[11:48] <ubuntuuuuuututuu> zvacet rc=relase candidate?
[11:48] <_MaxPower_> idefix: okay, it was worth a look at .. like I said i use osx on my day to day, I mainly use linux and BSD for servers. But having said that I still have an active intreast in gnome and kde
[11:48] <nxusr>  does anyone have this device working?  ; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_Remote_Wonder_Plus
[11:48] <zvacet> ubuntuuuuuututuu :yes
[11:48] <|ns|nR8> sorry to repeat...last time ill ask
[11:48] <|ns|nR8> i got a 3g wireless usb modem working in ubuntu...but randomly the computer will freeze...i tried the modem in another ubuntu pc and it will randomly freeze aswell...requiring hard reset..any ideas please?
[11:48] <yahooshua> the page that you can dl it from says its one last test release before the offcial release or something
[11:49] <ubuntuuuuuututuu> zvacet mmm ... what differeces between an official relase and a rc?
[11:49] <yahooshua> it seemed to me that it is pretty much done and you can dl now
[11:49] <matt___> after hardy heron comes out, will there be a reason to use the latest "server" edition on my server? upgrading it from feisty i mean...
[11:49] <DistroJockey> |ns|nR8: sounds like a bad driver to me
[11:49] <|ns|nR8> it uses the standard serial driver
[11:49] <Svish> is it possible to make ubuntu kind of... log in to for example the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal and start something automatically on startup? like, in the background?
[11:50] <|ns|nR8> i just type this
[11:50] <|ns|nR8> sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/\drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.ko \ vendor=0x16d8 product=0x6280
[11:50] <|ns|nR8> and use kppp
[11:50] <idefix> _MaxPower_ but there must be some option to save a selection in Gimp, no?
[11:50] <Keule> ﻿ how can i preload the startmenu after i logged on? - it lasts 2-4 secs when i klick on it the first time....
[11:50] <|ns|nR8> thanks DistroJockey..ill look into a driver
[11:50] <GIn> I can't wait any more to to upgrade to Hardy, what is the cmd to upgrade to the rc version?
[11:50] <yahooshua> matt you you would have to upgrade to 7.10 before you upgrade to hardy
[11:51] <DistroJockey> |ns|nR8: no problem, only thing I can think of
[11:51] <zvacet> ubuntuuuuuututuu : not bi ,but I think it will be less bugs and it will be fixes for something
[11:51] <ikonia> ubuntuuuuuututuu: please show me where ubuntu studio 8.04 is released ?
[11:51] <pipsqeek> can't you just update the sources.list to include new mirrors. then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:51] <luisdo> hola a todos!
[11:51] <yahooshua> Anyone: help me with getting flash plugin installed refer to a wiki or forum of some sort?
[11:51] <GIn> !upgrade
[11:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:52] <DistroJockey> yahooshua:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:52] <bradley_> hi room
[11:52] <luisdo> Hi! someone from Spain?
[11:53] <Lamego> !es | luisdo
[11:53] <ubotu> luisdo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:53] <DistroJockey> !es | luisdo
[11:53] <luisdo> ok! Thank you!
[11:53] <bradley_> any one to help with TV card configuration
[11:53] <DistroJockey> heh
[11:53] <GIn> how do I upgrade to Hardy rc1?
[11:53] <luisdo> umm, how can i connect to #ubuntu.es ?
[11:54] <noob-africa> hi all
[11:54] <zvacet> GIn :why don´t you wait for 3 more days?
[11:54] <DistroJockey> luisdo:  /join #ubuntu-es
[11:54] <noob-africa> does anyone know i am having problems with my nvidia grapphics card drivers?
[11:54] <GIn> zvacet: I don't want to wait any more :(
[11:55] <luisdo> join #ubuntu-es
[11:55] <GIn> I want to try out Hardy
[11:55] <noob-africa> when i set up the driver to be used, the xorg.conf file gets changed from nvidia to nv
[11:55] <DistroJockey> heyya noob-africa, nope, sorry
[11:55] <noob-africa> which is incompatible with ubunty
[11:55] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: hi. thanks.
[11:55] <noob-africa> well, at the moment i have set it to use the open source driver... if it keeps giving me problems i wonder what i'll do
[11:56] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: make a copy of xorg.conf and change it back?
[11:56] <_MaxPower_> idefix: open gimp file -> Acquire -> screenshot then Select region
[11:56] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: do you know anything about Apache 2 administration? i have problems with joomla
[11:56] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: to nvidia that is
[11:56] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: not enough :)
[11:56] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: well, i always have to rechange it, locally... in recovery mode...
[11:57] <_MaxPower_> noob-africa: I didn't know .. but thanks for informing me .. it was great
[11:57] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: thank you but that does not seem to be my problem. I have that installed and still can't see youtube and the like
[11:57] <zvacet>    GIn :          https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[11:57] <noob-africa> maybe if i upgrade to hardy i wont be getting this problem
[11:57] <noob-africa> lol
[11:57] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: with Firefox 2?
[11:57] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: :)
[11:58] <yahooshua> I believe so
[11:58] <noob-africa> trouble is, hardy heron comes with firefox 3, which is still in beta looooooooool
[11:58] <yahooshua> let me check
[11:58] <ikonia> noob-africa: why is that funny ?
[11:58] <noob-africa> ikonia: well, not much support for firefox 3 beta...
[11:58] <noob-africa> i wonder why ubuntu chose it...
[11:58] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: 2.0.0.13
[11:58] <ikonia> I wouldn't class that as funny
[11:58] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: to be exact
[11:58] <noob-africa> many of the plugins dont yet work at the moment
[11:58] <_MaxPower_> nxusr: I have had a look at the wiki link and there is another link that takes you to http://mythtv.wbond.net/remote_wonder_plus_linux/ there is additional information there.
[11:59] <noob-africa> ikonia: well, i have a 'dark' sense of humour... loooooooooool
[11:59] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: and you restarted firefox totally?
[11:59] <bazhang> noob-africa: the important ones do, but that is offtopic here thanks
[11:59] <noob-africa> ikonia: after all, i AM in the dark continent, ainti?
[11:59] <noob-africa> bazhang: which ones? (even though this is off-topic)
[11:59] <bazhang> !ot | noob-africa
[11:59] <ubotu> noob-africa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:00] <yahooshua> DistroJockey:  totally? quit and restart? yes. Quit restart the computer and then firefox? yes
[12:00] <yahooshua> says needs flash plugin
[12:00] <Toznoshio> Q: can I take the /etc/apt directory from an ubuntu installation, replace with it the existing /etc/apt directory of an installation of another Debian-based distibution, and have it work like that?
[12:01] <bazhang> Toznoshio: doubtful; which distro did you have in mind
[12:01] <KOJV> How to change the ugly small font of my Windows programs?
[12:01] <Lamego> Toznoshio, using repositories from other distros will most likely break your system
[12:01] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: well it use to. now it just slows everything down
[12:01] <Toznoshio> bazhang: Dreamlinux
[12:01] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: I guess it's a symlink issue (sorry, can't check atm)
[12:01] <|ns|nR8> if its the same distro i believe you can
[12:01] <bazhang> Toznoshio: that is straight debian
[12:02] <KOJV> How to change the ugly small font of my Windows programs? In Wine.
[12:02] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: symlink?
[12:02] <|ns|nR8> aptoncd basically does that Toznoshio
[12:02] <appelza> No such thing as Ruby 4.1 as this suggests: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[12:02] <ricanelite> how can I see where my ipod is mounted too?
[12:02] <ricanelite> because i cannot get amarok or banshee seeing my ipod
[12:02] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: link to the wrong .so file maybe
[12:03] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: I think you just gave me an idea
[12:03] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: I was hoping :)
[12:03] <ricanelite> gtkpod sees my ipod, also music player as well but not banshee or amarok
[12:03] <yahooshua> is there a simple way to force quit?
[12:03] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: as in   killall firefox   ?
[12:03] <yahooshua> kind like task manager in windows?
[12:04] <yahooshua> DistroJockey: do that in terminal?
[12:04] <DistroJockey> yep
[12:04] <yahooshua> thanx for all
[12:04] <DistroJockey> no problem
[12:04] <noob-africa> ricanelite: r u forgetting that we are on open source
[12:05] <Nom-> Does anyone know if there's a libapache2-mod-perl2 2.0.3 backport (or higher) floating around for 6.06 ?
[12:05] <DistroJockey> yahooshua: as sudo ofcourse :)
[12:05] <ricanelite> what you mean?
[12:06] <noob-africa> yahooshua: go to System / Administration / System Monitor
[12:06] <generic> hi all
[12:06] <generic> any one owrks on gosa
[12:06] <bazhang> ricanelite: is this a newer iPod?
[12:06] <ricanelite> no
[12:06] <ricanelite> it worked before
[12:06] <ricanelite> perfectly
[12:06] <ricanelite> dont know why it is not working now
[12:06] <bazhang> ricanelite: you are still on gutsy
[12:07] <ricanelite> no i updated to hardy
[12:07] <Svish> does clicking Mark All Upgrades in the Synaptic Package Manager have the same effect as using the Update Manager?
[12:07] <bazhang> ricanelite: well it should work, probably some last minute bugs to iron out
[12:07] <zvacet> Nom- : i think you are looking for Hardy package
[12:07] <ricanelite> okay
[12:08] <bazhang> Svish: as in upgrade to a newer version (i.e. Hardy)?
[12:08] <Svish> as in, everyday updates
[12:08] <ricanelite> i just find it crazy that gtkpod, music player sees my ipod
[12:08] <Svish> im just curious :p
[12:11] <slowlearner> hi does anybody know any good gantt chart builder (gnome)?
[12:12] <Auctionedllama> Hey
[12:12] <_MaxPower_> Hi
[12:13] <yahooshua> what is the terminal command to delete a file?
[12:13] <Auctionedllama> I just installed Hardy Heron, and I have ubuntu 7.10 still on a nother partition.. how do i completely remove the GRUB loader fro 7.10 so it only lists windows and hardy?
[12:13] <Auctionedllama> ?
[12:13] <bazhang> Auctionedllama: go into grub and edit it
[12:13] <Lamego> you just need to update your menu.lst
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> uhm, what do I edit?
[12:14] <SmokeyD> Hey people. I am looking for a simple GUI backup tool (tar based or something) for one workstation machine. It should be able to do incremental backups and allow you to specify multiple dirs in the backup, but also inside those backups allow the exclusion of certain files or directories
[12:14] <SmokeyD> any ideas?
[12:14] <DistroJockey> Auctionedllama: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> O yes, and on heron, the top and bottom GUI bars, no matter what theme I choose, stay the same
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> thanks distro
[12:14] <_MaxPower_> yahooshua: rm <filename>
[12:14] <bazhang> SmokeyD: must be gui?
[12:14] <DistroJockey> np
[12:14] <SmokeyD> bazhang: yeah. Not for me but for someone I am helping out
[12:14] <SmokeyD> :)(
[12:14] <yahooshua> _maxpower_thank you
[12:14] <SmokeyD> I am using backup2l which is really nice
[12:15] <SmokeyD> but doesn't have a gui
[12:15] <foolano> should I open a bug in ubuntu and debian if the same bug exists in both distros or just in one of them?
[12:15] <SmokeyD> maybe I'll write one in python or something.
[12:15] <slowlearner> hi does anybody know of any good gantt chart builder (gnome)?
[12:15] <SmokeyD> but if a nice tool already exists it is not worth my time :)
[12:16] <Auctionedllama> Guys, can I just copy and paste the 8.04 stuff over the 7.10, or should I just erase the 7.10?
[12:16] <yahooshua> _maxpower_: oh shiz. is there a way to undo that command lol
[12:16] <DistroJockey> !backup | SmokeyD
[12:16] <_MaxPower_> yahooshua: no
[12:16] <ubotu> SmokeyD: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:16] <yahooshua> damn noobs lol
[12:16] <yahooshua> oh well
[12:16] <Lamego> Auctionedllama, you should format the root partition
[12:17] <yahooshua> _maxpower_: that file wasn't that near and dear to me anyway lol
[12:17] <Auctionedllama> lamego, is there a good formatting program for hardy?
[12:17] <yahooshua> _maxpower_: looks like we walk from here
[12:17] <Lamego> Auctionedllama, the installe takes care of that
[12:17] <_MaxPower_> smokeyd: have a look here http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Backup/
[12:17] <Lamego> installer
[12:17] <Auctionedllama> uhm, the hardy installer?
[12:17] <Lamego> just select the right partition to be formated, during the partition manager
[12:18] <Lamego> just backup your home dir data, if you have any
[12:18] <Auctionedllama> last time that screwed things up BAD
[12:18] <Auctionedllama> and, hardy, I used the desktop one.. so no formatting
[12:18] <Auctionedllama> OK, 2 other things
[12:18] <isleshocky78> I have been trying to get a postfix setup working from this how-to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto .  At first it seemed like everything setup correctly from the looks of postfixadmin.  However, now I can't login. I get an invalid username and/or password through imap from an email client. I have the following error in my mail.err file "fatal: need service transport:endpoint instead of "inet""
[12:18] <Dnumgis> Howdy. I tried to install the "gnome" package on a kubuntu install, but there seems to still be something missing for a functioning gnome environment. Is there another meta package to get the rest in?
[12:19] <Auctionedllama> For some reason, my mouse wheel, won't scroll up, and the GUI bars on the top and bottom of my hardy, are grey, and never change no matter what theme I choose
[12:19] <Auctionedllama> and both are really bothering me :P
[12:19] <Lamego> Dnumgis, install ubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <Lamego> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[12:19] <ubotu> Auctionedllama: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:20] <laughzilla> hi :) i just added a 10 GB hdd to my new ubuntu box ... the 10 GB was an old ubuntu OS disk in another box, now i just have to grab some data off it and wipe it ... my BIOS sees the disk, but when i'm in my new ubuntu box, i don't see the old hard drive anywhere. anyone know how to "find" and mount a hdd that's in an ubuntu 7.10 box?
[12:20] <|ns|nR8> took me 6 months to fully customise 7.10
[12:20] <yahooshua> when I go to Youtube I get: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[12:20] <|ns|nR8> now i gotta start again
[12:20] <|ns|nR8> you need flash yahooshua
[12:20] <Lamego> laughzilla, does it show up on sudo fdisk -l ?
[12:20] <yahooshua> then when I try to intall it, it tells me flashplugin-nonfree already installed
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> uninstall it
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> and reinstall
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> i manually download flash
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> and manually select broswer directory
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> works everytime
[12:21] <jaffarkelshac> is there a straight forward way to find out what command launches certain progams? so far i add it to panel and right click properties to find out, is there an easy and straight forward way?
[12:21] <Dnumgis> Lamego: thanks
[12:22] <laughzilla> Lamego thanks!  i think i got it now  :)   i appreciate the clue :)
[12:22] <laughzilla> yahooshua - i solved the problem u have last week ...
[12:22] <yahooshua> laughzilla: how?
[12:22] <yahooshua> laughzilla: do tell
[12:22] <laughzilla> via Synaptic Package Manager you first UNINSTALL all of the flash players you have in there, and then you re-install just the flashplayer-nonfree  (the one it grabs directly from the adobe site)
[12:23] <mia> I'm having a little problem, i've got a 'nwc' file, it's a music file but i can't find any program wich can play it (mplayer, amarok). Anybody got a suggestion how i can listen to this file pls ?
[12:23] <yahooshua> laughzilla: thanx. I am on my way to bigger brighter day
[12:23] <yahooshua> I hope
[12:23] <nikitis> Anyone know of a changelog for the new 8.04 ubuntu?
[12:23] <laughzilla> :)
[12:23] <Lamego> !hardy | nikitis
[12:23] <ubotu> nikitis: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:24] <nikitis> Lamego, thanks ;)
[12:24] <sipior> mia: what format is it? i've never heard of nwc...
[12:24] <Lamego> mia, you could try NoteWorthy Composer using wine
[12:24] <sipior> well, that explains nwc at least :-)
[12:25] <mia> sipior: i'm having exact the same problem, it's for my grandmother, she told me that people with windows can play it
[12:25] <Lamego> according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noteworthy_composer , some people run it using wine
[12:25] <mia> Lamego: there isn't any option without wine ?
[12:25] <IdleOne> anybody here running SongBird ( http://www.songbirdnest.com/ ) having issues with adding a smb share to library
[12:26] <Lamego> mia, it is not my field of expertise, search for "score editor" on the repositories
[12:26] <mia> why the hell choose those people for such a stupid format :/
[12:26] <mia> Lamego: ok, thanks i'll give it a try :)
[12:26] <_MaxPower_> nwc .. well I have learnt something today ....
[12:29] <mia> Lamego: there is only a score reading trainer, wich seems not to be able to open it, so i'll have to give wine a shot :)
[12:29] <_MaxPower_> LOL .. I thought it might have been nagger with charisma
[12:29] <Lamego> :)
[12:29] <yahooshua> laughzilla: you re-installed vie the synatic as well. correct?
[12:30] <yahooshua> *via
[12:32] <mia> lol, you can even download a noteworthy player in a 16 bit version, tells me enough about the age :p
[12:33] <laughzilla> yahooshua yeah i did
[12:33] <DistroJockey> mia: hehe : http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/player/readme.txt
[12:34] <mia> hehe, i've installed it with wine and i'm able to open te file, but no sound yet, propably a wine setting ?
[12:34] <Keule> can someone tell me how i use preload or similar
[12:35] <Signil> hi I am trying to play a cd.. but I guess it has scratches on it .. it gets stuck right int the middle.. kaffeine and vlc refuse to play any further :s
[12:35] <IdleOne> anybody here running SongBird ( http://www.songbirdnest.com/ ) having issues with adding a smb share to library. I can not seem to figure it out or if it is even possible.
[12:35] <DistroJockey> mia: I don't do wine (yet) but I'm having a similar issue playing a .mid file
[12:35] <_MaxPower_> Signil: Try cleaning the cd with something like silvo. It has worked for me in the past
[12:36] <Signil> hmm wat abt toothpaste :s its mentioned online that helps too
[12:36] <mia> DistroJockey: i was able to play midi files here with kmid iirc
[12:36] <IdleOne> dont see how toothpaste would help
[12:36] <_MaxPower_> IdleOne: I would add the SMB as a mount point and then use song bird to browes the mount point
[12:37] <IdleOne> _MaxPower_: lemme give that a try
[12:37] <Signil> http://geniushackers.com/blog/2007/09/19/fix-a-scratched-cd/
[12:37] <RaverWild> hello! new to ubuntu and new to MTAs. just installed postfix on my personal ubuntu box. it appllied some basic config during installation and now works (i telneted it successfully). now problem is i want to setup evolution to use my postfix for local mail. how to determine which is the pop3 and smtp mail address?
[12:37] <|ns|nR8> toothpaste can work
[12:37] <Signil> hmm k
[12:38] <|ns|nR8> who knows how
[12:38] <DistroJockey> mia: I don't do K atm :)
[12:38] <|ns|nR8> you can get programs that will keep trying and trying on bad sector
[12:38] <|ns|nR8> sometimes eventually it will read
[12:39] <Signil> |ns|nR8: like?
[12:39] <|ns|nR8> i use one on windows called ultraISO
[12:39] <astro76> Signil: grip or anything else that uses the cdparanoia library
[12:39] <IdleOne> _MaxPower_: I can add a single file to the library but it will not play if I copy the file over to this machine then it does play
[12:39] <mia> Hmm, when i run winecfg i get (in konsole) an error: 'failed loading libjack.so', but libjack is installed
[12:40] <IdleOne> _MaxPower_: it wont let me add a folder to the library
[12:40] <maestro_> hi
[12:40] <|ns|nR8> mia: did you try sudo winecfg ?
[12:40] <Signil> hmm ok
[12:40] <If> hi wirelles adapter help plz?
[12:40] <mia> |ns|nR8: why would i need root rights for winecfg ? I've tried it now, but the same error
[12:40] <_MaxPower_> IdleOne: From memory you need to mount the SMB so you can browse it via the Shell.
[12:41] <maestro_> try bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:41] <Viper111> i want to ask if i created a vpn connection to my ubuntu server shall my internet connection stop, if this is ordinary how can i make a route to enable gettting to internet
[12:41] <tevleV> cw=YcP];B
[12:42] <If> how to connect with wirelles adapter on ubuntu?
[12:42] <Viper111> iwconfig wireless
[12:42] <Pici> !wifi | If
[12:42] <ubotu> If: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:42] <IdleOne> _MaxPower_: this problem is not browsing. I can browse/add single files ( not folders ) but they wont play. when I copy the file over to this computer it plays fine.
[12:43] <If> yes wi fi
[12:43] <_MaxPower_> IdleOne: Have a look at this " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534 "
[12:43] <_MaxPower_> IdleOne: I know what you mean. I have had similar problems at work. if you mount the share like that I have had success playing files over the network
[12:43] <If> but I need drivers 4my card :S the pc wont recognize it?
[12:44] <Pici> If: Please read the link that ubotu provided
[12:44] <gromozekin> hi there
[12:44] <_MaxPower_> Idleone: I think it has something to do with the way the GUI mounts the share. Once again I'm only going by my past experiences.
[12:45] <_MaxPower_> Idleone: It's worth a try .... if you can be bothered
[12:46] <IdleOne> _MaxPower_: thanks I will check it out
[12:46] <Nubae> anyone good with LDAP?
[12:47] <Nubae> I get Failed to save user : Failed to add user to LDAP database : no structural object class provided
[12:47] <_MaxPower_> IdleOne: Have a read of this .. these guys are having the same problem as you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306829&highlight=play+media+network
[12:47] <Nubae> when using the webmin interface, and please do not tell me to not use webmin
[12:47] <Pici> Nubae: Webmin isnt supported here.
[12:48] <tevleV> so don't use it =\
[12:48] <Nubae> Pici: I'm asking a ldap related question
[12:48] <KOJV> How do I change the default font of Wine applications? It's way too small!
[12:49] <_MaxPower_> Nubae: Whats your question?
[12:50] <Nubae> bah, forget it, I'll try #webmin
[12:50] <neeto> KOJV: in winecfg, under Desktop integration, you can choose font and size under Item
[12:51] <neeto> Under the appearance menu
[12:51] <ricanelite> I have Ubuntu Linux Hardy installed and by default it installed Fire Fox 3 beta
[12:51] <KOJV> neeto: I tried increasing size there, no result.
[12:51] <Keule> ﻿how can i preload the startmenu after i logged on? - it lasts 2-4 secs when i klick on it the first time....  Prelink istn necessary since feisty.. but my starmenu ist damn slow - theres is preload in repros - how can i add that to startup?
[12:51] <Pici> !hardy
[12:51] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:51] <ricanelite> is possible I could still use the stable firefox?
[12:52] <neeto> KOJV: does this happen on all your wine programs or just certain ones?
[12:52] <KOJV> neeto: I just tried mIRC so far.
[12:52] <Pici> ricanelite: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:53] <neeto> KOJV: I'm a bit confused as to why you are using wine to talk on IRC
[12:53] <ricanelite> oh i did not know there was a special channel for hardy sorry
[12:53] <KOJV> neeto: because I want my scripts.
[12:53] <neeto> KOJV: alright well, have to check the mirc settings?
[12:54] <neeto> have you checked*
[12:54] <lena> hwk
[12:54] <lena> hi
[12:54] <KOJV> neeto: I'm gonna, right now Wine doesn't work, gotta restart X.
[12:54] <johansja> anyone using ubuntu here? where can I find the documentation after I install the python-doc package?
[12:55] <tevleV> are the programs i uninstall kept cashed on local disk or do i need to dwnld em again next time i install?
[12:55] <Scrounch> gona
[12:55] <_MaxPower_> ricanelite: have you tried sudo apt-get install firefox-2 ?
[12:55] <neeto> johansja: /usr/share/doc/python or somewhere close
[12:55] <Pici> johansja: This is the Ubuntu support channel, most of us are running Ubuntu. Secondly, did you look in /usr/share/doc/python/  ?
[12:56] <simion314> tevleV:  the programs packages are in cache, to completly remove a program use apt-get purge program
[12:57] <thevoidreturns> can anyone help me with an issue with capturing traffic in monitor mode on a wireless network please?
[12:58] <_MaxPower_> tevleV: I think you will find the cached binary files in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:58] <[BT]JaC> hi i get this error
[12:58] <[BT]JaC> gaming:~# mysql -u root
[12:58] <[BT]JaC> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[12:58] <[BT]JaC> can you help
[12:58] <FloodBot1> [BT]JaC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <[BT]JaC> sorry
[12:59] <_MaxPower_> [BT}JaC: Your mysqld isn't running - try /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[13:00] <k[5\5]> ..
[13:00] <_MaxPower_> [BT]Jac: Sorry /etc/init.d/mysql start
[13:00] <[BT]JaC> yeah its started
[13:00] <johansja> Pici: haha, I almost forgot that I am asking in the ubuntu channel.
[13:00] <[BT]JaC> but it still cannot connect
[13:01] <_MaxPower_> [BT]JaC: Are you sure your mysql daemon is running?
[13:01] <[BT]JaC> yes
[13:01] <[BT]JaC> 100%
[13:04] <_MaxPower_> [BT]Jac: I would do a ps -ax just to confirm that its running
[13:05] <_MaxPower_> [BT]Jac: the only time I have trouble connecting to mysqld is when either its not running or a packet filter is port blocking. In your case i assume you on the local machine so its not the packet filter
[13:05] <[BT]JaC> im on the local machine yes
[13:07] <_MaxPower_> [BT]Jac: what does your deamon.log have to say?
[13:08] <_MaxPower_> woops daemon.log
[13:08] <nikitis> Question:  If we go ahead and do a dist-upgrade to 8.04 RC, if any changes are made when it's actually released 3 days from now, will we have to run another dist-upgrade or will updates automatically pop up?
[13:08] <_MaxPower_> nikitis: I'll tell you in 3 days .. LOL
[13:09] <Scrounch> no automatic, (imagine, people want keep their system)
[13:09] <Scrounch> not*
[13:10] <nikitis> what's the command to dist-upgrade to rc 8.04?  I want that new relatime option.  Says it speeds up significantly
[13:10] <Pici> !hardy
[13:10] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:10] <nikitis> Pici, yes but i'm in 7.10, needing to know the command
[13:11] <Pici> nikitis: Its still a Hardy question, thus for #ubuntu+1
[13:11] <_MaxPower_> apt-get upgrade ????
[13:11] <nikitis> no
[13:11] <nikitis> i know that's not it
[13:11] <recon> nikitis: update-manager --dist-upgrade
[13:11] <nikitis> something like apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:11] <nikitis> ah thanks
[13:12] <_MaxPower_> thats what I meant ..
[13:12] <_MaxPower_> another woops
[13:13] <recon> nikitis: although stuff can and will go wrong, according to Murphy's Law. so make backups.
[13:13] <nikitis> i'm skilled enough to get my files off if all hell breaks loose
[13:13] <jrib> nikitis: not if there is a bug that destroys them...
[13:13] <nikitis> jrib, yikes
[13:14] <recon> nikitis: isn't it just easier to backup your home folder to a different partition?
[13:14] <nikitis> recon, not when you have 1.4 TB worth of data.
[13:14] <Ubluzok> Hello everybody, can you advice me about developing for linux?
[13:15] <Lamego> Ubluzok, learn python :)
[13:15] <nikitis> recon, i don't have a backup source big enough ;(
[13:15] <Ubluzok> KVIrc 2.1.3 'Renaissance'
[13:15] <dmacnutt> ok
[13:15] <recon> nikitis: ok, then. hopefully nothing will go wrong.
[13:15] <_MaxPower_> Ubluzok: Learn C ;)
[13:15] <dmacnutt> I have a tape changer on my SCSI bus
[13:15] <Ubluzok> Lamego im studyng Perl
[13:15] <dmacnutt> everytime I reboot the machine, the device changes
[13:15] <Ubluzok> I know C/C++
[13:15] <nikitis> recon, i do have /home on a separate partition
[13:16] <dmacnutt> IE: /dev/sg2 it's now /dev/sg6
[13:16] <nikitis> recon, and everything else on another
[13:16] <dmacnutt> how can I stop this from happening?
[13:16] <_MaxPower_> Ubluzok: Install GCC and off you go!
[13:16] <recon> nikitis: well, that's always good.
[13:16] <nikitis> dmacnutt, udev
[13:16] <_MaxPower_> :Ubluzok ... only joking ...
[13:16] <Ubluzok> MaxPower: I know
[13:17] <arvind_khadri> Ubluzok, get into touch with MOTU they are the ones who maintain the packages...
[13:17] <Ubluzok> MaxPower: I jast want to join some kind of project
[13:17] <Lamego> Ubluzok, use whatever you feel more productive with, a significant part of the ubuntu tools are developed in python
[13:17] <nikitis> i was reading kernel trap about "relatime" saying it can improve some systems as much as 50% in things like X, and other programs
[13:17] <_MaxPower_> Ubluzok: what are you interested in developing?
[13:17] <arvind_khadri> Ubluzok, try the summer of code ;)
[13:18] <FireSnake> s there anybody who knows about running FlylinkDC++ under wine?
[13:18] <nikitis> And how this new ubuntu 8.04 has it by default
[13:18] <FireSnake> *Is
[13:18] <Kcaj> Jewbuntu
[13:18] <Ubluzok> I'll trarvind_khadri: Summerof code..... ok I'll try
[13:18] <Lamego> !appsdb | FireSnake
[13:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about appsdb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:18] <jrib> Ubluzok: if you want to help with ubuntu development, /msg ubotu motu.  If you want to develop on a particular software project, visit that project's home page and contact them
[13:18] <Lamego> !appdb | FireSnake
[13:18] <ubotu> FireSnake: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[13:18] <ming> is it normal that "Xorg" take up to 70% of ur cpu ?
[13:18] <jrib> Kcaj: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:18] <FireSnake> ok, thx
[13:19] <ikeda> ああああ
[13:19] <nikitis> ming, no should be more like 20%
[13:19] <Ubluzok> jrib: ok, I just need to contact motu?
[13:19] <ming> what should i do to lower it??
[13:19] <jrib> !motu | Ubluzok
[13:19] <ubotu> Ubluzok: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[13:19] <pistache-linux> Hi everybody !
[13:19] <nikitis> maybe give it a higher "nice" level
[13:19] <arvind_khadri> !ask | pistache-linux
[13:19] <ubotu> pistache-linux: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:19] <jrib> ubotu: that page will tell you how to get started.  #ubuntu-motu is fully friendly people who can help you as well
[13:20] <jrib> Ubluzok: that page will tell you how to get started.  #ubuntu-motu is fully friendly people who can help you as well
[13:20] <jrib> !jp | ikeda
[13:20] <ubotu> ikeda: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[13:20] <Ubluzok> jrib: Thanks I'm going there
[13:21] <ming> can somone tell me what xorg do in my process? is really lagging my system
[13:22] <ikonia> ming: how do you know it's xorg ?
[13:23] <ming> well, i dont know for sure, but i just look at the system monitor and the process tap, and is fluxing from 20-%-60% of cpu
[13:23] <ikonia> ming: what sort of thing are you doing ?
[13:23] <ikonia> ming: and exaclty which process as xorg is modular now
[13:24] <ming> i am downloading torrents now, thats like the only thing, 2 days ago my system start lagging and i am still investigating
[13:24] <ming> and modular what is that?
[13:24] <DracoZA> ming ktorrent ?
[13:25] <ikonia> ming: many different processes ?
[13:25] <ming> no  i just use the trasmission program it came with ubunutu
[13:26] <ming> and i think there are many process, but alot of them is said to be |sleeping
[13:26] <_MaxPower_> ming .. you can use top to see what process is hogging your cpu time
[13:26] <jamsa> How I get pidgin to startup automatically?
[13:26] <_MaxPower_> when you have identified it you can try killing it
[13:27] <ming> yea right now is xorg, but wverytime i kill it, it quit system monitor, and when i check again is still running
[13:27] <mattywarr> hello, anyone know much about gparted?
[13:27] <Lamego> mattywarr, just write your question
[13:28] <mattywarr> ok - At present I have a dual boot XP/Ubuntu 7.10 - At the moment, Ubuntu is running on a small 20gb ext3 partition
[13:28] <mattywarr> I have the System partition for windows at 30gb which I want to leave, but i also have a large partition I used in windows to store data
[13:28] <gromozekin> hi there
[13:29] <gromozekin> how to uninstall ndiswrapper
[13:29] <gromozekin> ?
[13:29] <willytell> hi
[13:29] <mattywarr> I want to ditch that partition, and extend the EXT3 linux partition
[13:29] <gromozekin> cause its might be ubuntupackage
[13:29] <mattywarr> I'm using gparted but I understand i'll need to unmount the partitions before I can do anything
[13:29] <Lamego> mattywarr, you can only resize an unmounted partition, meaning you will need to boot from the livd cd
[13:29] <gromozekin> noone can helpme?>
[13:30] <Lamego> gromozekin, have you tried sudo apt-get remove ?
[13:30] <jamsa> nevermind, fixed
[13:30] <mattywarr> thanks lamego - is gparted installed on the livecd? I had to install the package post install
[13:30] <gromozekin> i tried
[13:30] <gromozekin> dpkg -r ndiswrapper
[13:30] <willytell> is there a way to find out if a computer is little/big endian using command line?
[13:31] <gromozekin> /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:31] <gromozekin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:31] <gromozekin> close apt-get
[13:31] <gromozekin> again
[13:31] <jrib> !enter | gromozekin
[13:31] <egoleo> how do i get system variables plse
[13:31] <gromozekin> unable to find thois package
[13:31] <Lamego> !aptlock | gromozekin
[13:31] <ubotu> gromozekin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:31] <_MaxPower_> try sudo dpkg -r ndiswrapper
[13:31] <ubotu> gromozekin: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:31] <egoleo> $SIG{ALRM} is this one of them ?
[13:32] <icesword> gromozekin, so you got apt-get and synaptic running at the same time? kill one ,then
[13:32] <willytell> !endian
[13:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about endian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:32] <willytell> !little-endian
[13:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about little-endian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:32] <jrib> !fishing | willytell
[13:32] <ubotu> willytell: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:32] <icesword> hoho
[13:32] <Lamego> willytell, what are you trying to achieve ?
[13:32] <Waysted> Trying to install Ubuntu Srv7.10 on older laptop, it has 32mb internal ram, I added 128. Anyway, during setup Ubuntu only recognizes the 32megs and fails. Any way I can get by this?
[13:33] <arvind_k> willytell, you should search them in wikipedia
[13:33] <DracoZA> 32mb ? *giggle*
[13:33] <Waysted> :) its old
[13:33] <Lamego> Waysted, I don't believe the ubuntu installer will run on a 32mb system
[13:34] <DracoZA> It has little 2 by 2 footprints on it I bet
[13:34] <Waysted> it has 160mb total
[13:34] <DracoZA> Waysted, does the bios see the 128 ?
[13:34] <gromozekin> 1) rmmod ndiswrapper 2)apt-get remove ndiswrapper 3) unable to found this package
[13:34] <Waysted> yes
[13:34] <Waysted> Ive had windows 95,98 on it
[13:35] <DracoZA> theres the problem, windows probably stole it!
[13:35] <willytell> it is a simple question...
[13:35] <Waysted> DracoZA: you are full of good advice
[13:35] <arvind_k> willytell, you mean about little-endian
[13:35] <willytell> I know what is big and little endian.
[13:36] <arvind_k> willytell, so what do you want??
[13:36] <Lamego> willytell, what is your purpose ?
[13:36] <slowlearner> DracoZA: lol
[13:37] <willytell> arvind_k, just to know if there is a command line on Linux to find out what endian is used by the PC (RAM or Processor, or whatever)
[13:37] <Jabrik> ?
[13:38] <Lamego> willytell, no, there isn't, since that is something you can figure by the processor type itself
[13:38] <bazhang> willytell: http://meta.ath0.com/tag/programming/
[13:38] <jn> hello
[13:39] <Lamego> not to mention, that is certainly something that has no use for an user
[13:39] <bazhang> and is way offtopic
[13:39] <jeffimperial> I just put in my IDE HDD now, and it's not showing up in Computer or Media.. what to do?
[13:39] <Waysted> Good luck with this
[13:40] <jrib> jeffimperial: did you format and partition it?
[13:40] <Waysted> Later
[13:40] <Lamego> jeffimperial, check with: sudo fdisk -l
[13:40] <ChaosTheory0> Is there any program that can left me run Pandora *outside* of Firefox?
[13:40] <ChaosTheory0> Like OpenPandora for Windows?
[13:40] <willytell> Lamego, on MIPS... a program could select what kind of endianness to use? or it is fixed?
[13:41] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: yah try sudo fdisk -l
[13:41] <jeffimperial> jrib: yep.. was working on my Windblows XP machine
[13:42] <Lamego> willytell, by your question you clearly do not understand the meaning of your question, please google for it, and don't repeat the question, it's off topic
[13:42] <bazhang> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pandora+Screenlet?content=72525 ChaosTheory0
[13:42] <arvind_k> bazhang, hi
[13:43] <bazhang> willytell: this is ubuntu support; we gave you a link to read; you can also check wikipedia for more thanks
[13:43] <bazhang> arvind_k: hi!
[13:43] <jeffimperial> Lamego: Slowlearner: I get a /dev/sda.... some sort of list. What do I make of this?
[13:43] <Lamego> jeffimperial, you need to understand how the partitions are named, if you added a new disk, you will need to add it to /etc/fstab
[13:43] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: it'll tell the available disks
[13:44] <prodigel> Hi all. I'm trying to format a memory stick without success. I've tried parted/gparted/fidsk. parted/gparted sees it but cannot even created disk label(mbr I presume), fdisk doesn't see it at all. In windows I see a 512 mb partition and the rest free space. Can I forcely format it?
[13:44] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: if it isn'
[13:44] <jeffimperial> slowlearnear: as far as i could tell, there's only one.. but the disk IS there (plugged in and should be ready to go i mean)
[13:45] <bazhang> prodigel: what about cfdisk
[13:45] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: sudo fdisk -l
[13:45] <prodigel> bazhang: will try
[13:46] <bazhang> prodigel: you doing this to create a bootable pendrive? www.pendrivelinux.com has the details
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, he wants to format so why not sudo mkfs.vfat
[13:46] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: you've plugged it via ata, so it's isn't plug in play, you have to mount it
[13:46] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: yeah, i executed sudo fdisk -l and it gave me a list that contains only ONE HD.. got any more ideas?
[13:46] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: not sure what his final goal was
[13:46] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: hate to be a newbie, but how to mount?
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, do you just want to format???
[13:47] <prodigel> bazhang: first things first, I want it woking
[13:47] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: yes
[13:47] <_MaxPower_> dmesg | grep sd and see if the drive has been detected
[13:47] <laughzilla> Lamego ... i ran various commands to mount  /dev/sda  ... none of them work. the disk is a Linux fs disk (it has ubuntu 7.10 on it, with a broken GRUB loader).  i tried, for instance:  mount -t ext2 /dev/sda /mnt   and it just gives me the "bad fs type, bad option, bad superblock" message.
[13:47] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: if it's not there you probably wont be able to mount it
[13:47] <Lamego> or just dmesg, to check for some error
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, does it get recognized in ubuntu??
[13:47] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: pastebin /var/log/messages
[13:47] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: gparted sees it
[13:47] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: nautilus has nothing to mount from it
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, fdisk??
[13:47] <Lamego> laughzilla, /dev/sda is a disk, not a partition, was the disk formmateD ?
[13:47] <Lamego> you can't mount disks, only partitions
[13:47] <Dassouki> I have an nvidia driver geforce 8499m G 128mb, asus fs9, and gutsy. I can plug in to a dual monitor but not a projector
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, does fdisk see it
[13:48] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: fdisk says unable to read
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, thats ok
[13:48] <wikzo> I need a Japanese (Romaji) spell checker for OpenOffice Writer in Ubuntu 7.10. How do I get it?
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, its sudo fdisk -l
[13:48] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: I know how to use it
[13:48] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: gosh..that disk contains my files before i migrated to ubuntu...
[13:48] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: even this way it's empty output
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, cfdisk
[13:49] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: that I don't know how to use :D
[13:49] <Lamego> prodigel, if the disk is not recognized, you will not be able to use any disk part utility
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, ok issue sudo cfdisk
[13:49] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: can you pastebin the output of /var/log/messages
[13:49] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: did that
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, so what do you get can you see the usb there
[13:50] <prodigel> Lamego: windows sees it, and even did copy a file from it
[13:50] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: again, newbie in over his head here...
[13:50] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: I only see my hdd
[13:50] <slowlearner> !pastebin | jeffimperial
[13:50] <ubotu> jeffimperial: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, hmm ok just a min
[13:51] <Svish> !rungetty
[13:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rungetty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:51] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: cat dmesg > dmesg.txt
[13:51] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: then pastebin the contents of dmesg.txt
[13:52] <wikzo> How do I get a Japanese spell checker (Romaji) for OpenOffice Writer, Ubuntu 7.10?
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, why dont you try mounting the usb manualyy
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, sorry i forgot it gets mounted right
[13:52] <mask> hi guys
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, just check out your fstab  and check is it /dev/usb1 or 2
[13:53] <rever> Hi I upgraded my Gutsy install to Hardy on Friday, Everything seemed to go fine except my CPU usage is always very high. Compiz.real and xorg are always between 60-90
[13:53] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: It's seen as sdb
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | rever
[13:53] <ubotu> rever: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:53] <rever> This is on a Intel T7700 with Nvidia 8600GT
[13:53] <mask> i need to take backup of evolution in ubuntu mail program in a way that i could be able to get all my emails in windows program
[13:53] <PodMan99a> hey all... using 7.10 installing php5 however /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so is not installed?? any ideas?
[13:53] <mask> can anyone tell me abou that
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, can you just copy paste the fstab
[13:54] <xpoint> PodMan99a, revdep-rebuild
[13:54] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: here's the link.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63913/
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> !paste | prodigel
[13:54] <ubotu> prodigel: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:54] <Lamego> PodMan99a, have you installed mod php5 ?
[13:54] <baudelaire> QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the official reason why webmin isn't in the repositories?  I can't seem to find it.  Thank you!
[13:54] <PodMan99a> Lamego, apt-get install apache2-mod-php5 does not exist
[13:55] <xpoint> PodMan99a, apt-cache search php5
[13:55] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: yes, i see you only have one disk.. can you try to pastebin cat dmesg > dmesg.txt
[13:56] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: It's got nothing to do with fstab, since fdisk/cfdisk/gparted cannot work with it well it's something broken. I just want to low format it or something
[13:56] <KOJV> I cannot create a C drive for Wine. The setting won't stick as I close Winecfg. Any ideas? Thanks!
[13:56] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: the output of that command is a textfile(dmesg.txt), pastebin the contents :)
[13:56] <ChandlerB> if I have the standard installation of Ubuntu Server, does that support more than 4GB RAM?
[13:56] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, your fstab please....
[13:57] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: :) wait a sec
[13:57] <bazhang> kojv you ran wineconfig?
[13:57] <laughzilla> Lamego yes it was formatted when i set it up with ubuntu some months ago, and it has partitions on it ... i think u just gave me the solution tho :) thx.
[13:57] <slowlearner> KOJV:  sudo ?
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, i just want to make sure what is your usb ...ntn more
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, we are just one step away from formatting ;)
[13:57] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[13:57] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: I can hardly wait :)
[13:57] <_MaxPower_> baudelaire: Its in mine ...
[13:58] <Lamego> PodMan99a, libapache2-mod-php5
[13:58] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: quick question, did the bios recognize your drive?
[13:58] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63914/
[13:58] <prodigel> sorry for the previous paste
[13:58] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, which one??
[13:59] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: the one without 63914
[13:59] <jeffimperial> slowlearner: got it there now, man. sorry.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63915/ ...yep, the bios had it right..
[13:59] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: and I worked so hard at those asterixes... still you can see the password
[13:59] <PodMan99a> Lamego, STAR... fixed
[14:00] <laughzilla> Lamego i tried sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt  and it still gives me the same error (and sda1 is the partition i want to mount)
[14:00] <Lamego> laughzilla, is /dev/sda1 listed on sudo fdisk -l ?
[14:01] <laughzilla> lamego yes it is
[14:01] <Lamego> what error are you getting ?
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, i dont see your usb here...oops i remembered thats mtab
[14:01] <Nine5102> Whenever I open Totem or Rhythmbox, I get gstreamer errors, in totem it says it cannot create the gstreamer play object, anyone know how I could fix it?
[14:01] <laughzilla> lamego i'm getting:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> prodigel,  cant see your pass anyway ;)
[14:01] <koma_> anybody see me
[14:02] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: if you look closer you can see it
[14:02] <Lamego> laughzilla, do not set the partion type on mount, remove the "-t ext2"
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, i didnt want to but you made me
[14:02] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: weird, i don't see any attempt to recognize another drive, it's as if the drive isn't connected
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, paste mtab
[14:02] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: never mind ... any conclusions?
[14:03] <laughzilla> lamego ... i tried that, it says i have to specify an FS type.... and yes, it is a Linux partition (says that in fdisk as well)
[14:03] <KOJV> Okay, so... back to my original problem. How to make Winapps use a larger font??
[14:03] <Lamego> that is very odd, it should recognized the partion type automatically
[14:03] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, mtab i wanted...sorry told you to paste fstab extremely sorry
[14:03] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63916/
[14:04] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: no problem
[14:04] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: just pasted it
[14:04] <jeffimperial> slow: maybe it's a lose contact case for power or data.. any more ideas?
[14:04] <slowlearner> jeffimperial: can you reboot? make sure the bios recognizes your drive first :)
[14:05] <jeffimperial> slow: a'right.. thanks a bunch man.. laters..
[14:05] <laughzilla> lamego yes esp. since it's a disk with ubuntu 7.10 on it, same as the new box i'm trying to mount it into.
[14:06] <ikonia> oh no
[14:06] <ikonia> oops
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> laughzilla, what about a bios issue where the old box eas emulating ide for sata or lba enabled something like that
[14:07] <mattywarr> hello
[14:07] <longtimeuser> bye
[14:07] <mattywarr> I've just installed phpmyadmin using apt-get and it all installed OK - but when I go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin it tells me there is no documents there - any ideas why?
[14:08] <DracoZA> laughzilla, SATA or IDE drive ?
[14:08] <laughzilla> jack_sparrow it's an IDE device, the old drive.
[14:08] <_MaxPower__> ?
[14:08] <laughzilla> and it's listed as such in the new box's bios as well.
[14:08] <DracoZA> laughzilla, are you using the old IDE cable as well ?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> laughzilla, jumpers are correct as well?  single drive dual drive any other device on the same cable..
[14:09] <slowlearner> mattywarr: what's the error?
[14:09] <laughzilla> dracoza actually i'm using the new ide cable that came with the new computer.
[14:09] <mattywarr> its just the standard 404 page
[14:09] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: so?
[14:09] <slowlearner> mattywarr:  you have, apache and php installed?
[14:09] <DracoZA> laughzilla, k then it's not a 40wire vs 80wire cable issue
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> laughzilla, look close to make sure it isnt a cable select cable and not std ide
[14:09] <laughzilla> jack_sparrow yes the jumper's on CS and it's listed as the primary master in the bios and the new computer loads fine (its the same box i'm on in this irc)
[14:09] <mattywarr> yeah, I installed LAMP first
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, jus a min
[14:10] <mattywarr> apache seems to be OK
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> laughzilla, very few new cables arew cable select
[14:10] <sinbox> When I launch some programs in a terminal via a script some of my panels tend to disappear. apps involved: qjackctl + oddacst-jack + xmms.   any idea as to why this could be?
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[14:11] <slowlearner> mattywarr: i don't know how phpmyadmin is installed using the repos, i suggest you just download phpmyadmin and extract it to your webroot
[14:12] <willytell> it is what i talked http://www.debian.org/ports/mips/  and http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm/ch02s01.html.en  .
[14:12] <_MaxPower_> since when is IDE "old" ??? LOL
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, what does mount show you
[14:12] <hema> fdfd
[14:12] <_MaxPower_> seems like yesterday that IDE was new .. LOL
[14:12] <laughzilla> hm ... so i should specify the jumpers differently than CS ?  ok well there's 1 SATA drive (that's the new one) and there is 1 IDE (the old drive). what should i set the jumper to on the IDE drive? Master? Slave? i would guess Master since that's what it did by itself ?
[14:13] <willytell> sorry if I didn't explain it well.
[14:13] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, i cant see your usb mounted anywhere
[14:13] <willytell> Most ARM CPUs may be run in either endian mode (big or little). However, the majority of current system implementation uses little-endian mode. Debian currently only supports little-endian ARM systems.
[14:13] <Swish> on newer motherboards/drives, you should just jumper CS.
[14:13] <slowlearner> laughzilla: the disks have labels on them on how to set the jumpersa
[14:13] <Swish> put your master on the end of the cable
[14:13] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: dude, if you know how to low level format it tell me. If not it's not worthy to 'debug' it.
[14:13] <Swish> and your slave drive in the middle of the cable
[14:14] <laughzilla> slowlerner yes i just meant if there is one that's best to choose in this situation.
[14:14] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, if windows can find it just format it there
[14:14] <icesword> nite，all
[14:14] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, when the disk itself isnt mounted here how can we format it
[14:15] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: hm, I would have, but windows doesn't give me delete/resize also :)
[14:15] <_Net> Hi
[14:15] <slowlearner> laughzilla: should prolly set the jumpers and use the right cable ends
[14:15] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, try a different port that helps a lot of times
[14:15] <_Net> When I plug my ipod in Music Player there are all my playlist and stuff, but when I eject my ipod all my songs are gone from my ipod
[14:15] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: format is wrongly used, I want partitions erased
[14:15] <_Net> but when I plug the ipod back, i can see the playlists and songs
[14:15] <_Net> Does anyone know how to fix this
[14:15] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, thats a USB drive right ...
[14:16] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: yes
[14:16] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, define the usb drive a pen drive or something
[14:16] <hema> plz
[14:16] <hema> i neeeeeeeed
[14:16] <hema> how i can instal
[14:16] <arvind_khadri> !ask | hema
[14:16] <ubotu> hema: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:16] <hema> in ubuntu
[14:16] <slowlearner> _Net: lol, of course the songs are in your ipod so when you plug it you see them , when you unplug it then you won't
[14:17] <laughzilla> slowlearner - the cable IS set, to CS.  and the cable ends are in properly. if it weren't, fdisk wouldn't see the disk, would it?    and fdisk does see the disk.
[14:17] <slowlearner> _Net: if you want them to stay then transfer the songs to your drive
[14:17] <laughzilla> and slowlearner the jumper is set to CS as well.
[14:17] <arvind_khadri> hema, what do you want to install
[14:17] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: it's small
[14:17] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: it's kingmax
[14:17] <HZ> hello all how is life?
[14:17] <HZ> could anyone tell me how to change the root password
[14:17] <hema> emesene
[14:17] <yurenju> hi all
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> \!noroot
[14:17] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: gets stuck in the usb port
[14:17] <Lamego> !sudoroot | hz
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[14:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:17] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[14:17] <slowlearner> laughzilla: lol, and what's the problem?
[14:18] <hema> ?
[14:18] <_Net> No i dont mean them on my computer
[14:18] <Pici> hm
[14:18] <_Net> Like when i unplug my Ipod, I should see my songs IN my ipod but they are not there
[14:18] <_Net> it says No Music in my ipod eventhough there are so many
[14:18] <_Net> and when I plug it back the music plapyer shows my songs
[14:18] <laughzilla> slowlearner the problem is that the mount command is not recognizing the partition i want to mount.
[14:18] <arvind_khadri> prodigel, thats a pen drive ....try it in a different port...kingmax ones give trouble
[14:18] <pir> HZ :  sudo passwd
[14:18] <arvind_khadri> hema
[14:18] <slowlearner> laughzilla: and fdisk sees them?
[14:19] <laughzilla> slowlearner yes
[14:19] <hema> ?
[14:19] <slowlearner> laughzilla: whats the error?
[14:19] <prodigel> arvind_khadri: will try
[14:19] <HZ> thx guys I'll c
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> hema please use name
[14:19] <yurenju> question, Can synaptic ignore packages for unauthenticated repository and execute install?
[14:19] <hema> i don t under stand u
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> hema whats the progrms name
[14:19] <bazhang> _Net: you need the latest libgpod or just wait for next release in three days
[14:19] <slowlearner> _Net: you should probably use an itunes counterpart in ubuntu
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> pir, As the factoid says please dont suggest that..
[14:19] <laughzilla> slowlearner it is this errror:   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try  dmesg | tail  or so
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> !tab |hema
[14:20] <ubotu> hema: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:20] <Lamego> laughzilla, have yu checked the dmesg output ?
[14:20] <HZ> do anyone have tamagochi on ubuntu?
[14:20] <laughzilla> lamego yes
[14:20] <yurenju> if use apt-get i can ignore authenticated problem: apt-get --allow-unauthenticated --force-yes --y install <something>, but synaptic NOT
[14:20] <nawothnig> hi. i'm trying to link a 32-bit application on my x86_64 box, but cant get the linker to use the 32-bit libs... http://pastebin.ca/991873 <= am i doing something wrong?
[14:20] <slowlearner> laughzilla: what's fs type?
[14:20] <_Net> Itunes counterpart? I'll try and check
[14:20] <laughzilla> slowlearner it's Linux
[14:20] <laughzilla> so i tried both ext2 and ext3
[14:20] <laughzilla> and here's the dmesg | tail results:
[14:20] <laughzilla> [ 7099.476378] VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda1.
[14:20] <bazhang> _Net: amarok rhythmbox are two
[14:20] <laughzilla> [ 7103.482414] VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sda1.
[14:21] <slowlearner> laughzilla: wow weird..
[14:21] <laughzilla> slowlearner yes
[14:21] <slowlearner> laughzilla: you tried formatting the drive?
[14:21] <laughzilla> slowlearner i need to grab data off the drive before i do that.
[14:21] <binarical-ap1> hey people, how can i change the default text size on my server
[14:22] <_Net> bazhang: Oh okay, I'll check it out. But I dont have much time right now, if I plugged my ipod to a win32 machine and ejected it after you think it'll show my songs again?
[14:23] <slowlearner> laughzilla: now thats a problem,
[14:23] <arvind_khadri> hema, whats the prob
[14:23] <whatspy> heh, it's not exactly ubuntu-related, but dunno where to go... #web2.0 is empty... I wonder if someone the open source community already thought of some kind of tagging utility for stuff people like, for instance, yesterday my friend told me about "A Beautiful Mind"... given such a tool, I'd input the title, tagged "movie", "psychology", "russel", and so...
[14:23] <laughzilla> slowlearner - gee thanks, you get two points for being master of the obvious :D  if it wasn't a problem, i wouldn't be trying to solve it.
[14:23] <bazhang> _Net: currently in gutsy no; as I indicated you need to get the latest libgpod deb for gutsy or wait for inclusion in hardy (april 24)
[14:23] <hema> i can
[14:23] <hema> speak
[14:23] <Leeuw> anyone know the command to start a second x-session on a different monitor (different card as well, not in dual screen setup) ?   something like startx --2 tty2 or what exactly ?
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> whatspy, try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[14:24] <hema> i neeeeed instal program
[14:24] <binarical-ap1> i need to change the text display font size to something smaller then its default , does someone know how to do this?
[14:24] <arvind_khadri> hema, whats the name of the program
[14:24] <_Net> bazhang: Man that sucks, but sure thanks man. I have to run to school now though.
[14:24] <slowlearner> laughzilla: sorry couldn't help..
[14:24] <bazhang> !brainstorm | whatspy
[14:24] <ubotu> whatspy: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> hema, PLease keep your question on one line and be as complete as possible
[14:24] <hema> emesene
[14:25] <laughzilla> slowlearner thanks all the same it is all appreciated :)
[14:25] <arvind_khadri> hema, whats that do you mean emacs
[14:25] <slowlearner> laughzilla: well you can try a a linux recovery on windows
[14:25] <hema> program s name
[14:25] <arvind_khadri> hema, what does that program do
[14:25] <whatspy> thx
[14:25] <binarical-ap1> !font
[14:25] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:25] <hema> msn voice messenger
[14:25] <binarical-ap1> !default
[14:25] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[14:25] <bazhang> http://www.getdeb.net/app/emesene hema
[14:26] <binarical-ap1> !fontsize
[14:26] <laughzilla> slowlearner actually i'm doing all of this just so i can wipe the disk and put windows on the old hdd (just to test it for something). so i can't try a linux recovery on windows atm.
[14:26] <hema> i neeeeed know how i can instal
[14:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fontsize - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <binarical-ap1> !font size
[14:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about font size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <bazhang> hema read the link I just gave you
[14:26] <hema> oki
[14:26] <dassouki> i've set up my ubuntu at home that has a static ip to accept connections, how can i access it from the office
[14:26] <binarical-ap1> !server
[14:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[14:26] <slowlearner> slowlearner: ok, i understand, good luck though
[14:26] <dassouki> i've set up my ubuntu at home that has a static ip to accept connections, how can i access it from the office a gutsy as well
[14:27] <Lamego> dassouki, ssh -X remote_ip
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> dassouki, rdesktop
[14:27] <hema> after download
[14:27] <andb> dasouki, how about ssh
[14:27] <angel__> hey
[14:27] <hema> ?
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> hema, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> hema or use gdebi to install thats u GUI for dpkg
[14:29] <arvind_khadri> !ask | angel__
[14:29] <ubotu> angel__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:29] <dassouki> Lamego, andb, it asks for password but not for username ( I want to connect under a different username)
[14:29] <Lamego> das_maze, ssh username@hostname
[14:30] <hema> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[14:30] <hema> what i can do ?
[14:30] <dassouki> Lamego, andb, how can i view the desktop ?
[14:30] <hema> ?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> hema, shut down any other package manager you have running
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> hema, is there any another process like synaptic or apt or aptitude running in background
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> !patience | hema
[14:31] <ubotu> hema: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:31] <Lamego> dassouki, you can only view the desktop if you have installed VNC server, otherwise you can only launch applications
[14:31] <Lamego> !aptlock | hema
[14:31] <ubotu> hema: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:31] <dassouki> lamego, i think i'm sure i installed vnc server
[14:31] <s_> how is mail-notification gmail settings pls?it cant connect to server
[14:31] <Lamego> das_maze, then you must use vnc, not SSH
[14:32] <qa> Hello
[14:32] <arvind_khadri> !ask | qa
[14:32] <ubotu> qa: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:33] <DracoZA> is Hello a question ?
[14:33] <spanther> DracoZA hello :)
[14:33] <arvind_khadri> DracoZA, they start like that and we mean biusness
[14:33] <DracoZA> hello spanky panther
[14:34] <spanther> spanky? xD :P
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, and they left without getting help..
[14:34] <Kaja> a: hello b: hi a: does anyone... b: !ask
[14:34] <spanther> Kaja right :)
[14:34] <DracoZA> oh c'mon lets tolerate those who have manners
[14:34] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, most of the people come here and think this is just for chat,who really want to ask will ask
[14:34] <spanther> but dont assault shy ones xD
[14:35] <DracoZA> not everyone lives on irc
[14:35] <slowlearner> dassouki: install vncviewer in the client machine
[14:35] <blivori> Hi guys
[14:35] <nyigu> if I want to set an environment variable globally, eg LESS, would the place to do this be /etc/profile?  Is there an Ubuntu equivalent of RedHat's /etc/profile.d?
[14:35] <Kaja> sup
[14:35] <DracoZA> hi blivori
[14:35] <blivori> I have a question
[14:35] <hema> thz all
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, see
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, I am aware of how this channel works.  We are no so busy right now that we cannot be polite to a new user
[14:35] <Kaja> ;)
[14:35] <DracoZA> and we might have the answer
[14:35] <hema> i m has been login
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, sorry boss ...
[14:35] <blivori> If I install 8.04 release candidate, will it be able to upgrade to 8.04 stable when its out or do I have to reinstall via ISO ?
[14:36] <dassouki> slowlearner, it's installed here too, and when i try to connect, i get a 111 error:main:        unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111)
[14:36] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow you own :D
[14:36] <spanther> sparrow 4tw x)
[14:36] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, i really respect you ....am sorry
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:36] <maxagaz> what is the fastest cpu between : Centrino M740 and Celeron ULV at 900 Mhz ?
[14:36] <slowlearner> dassouki: you've enabled it in the server?
[14:36] <blivori> so DracoZA ? :)
[14:36] <DracoZA> blivori, I would think so
[14:36] <slowlearner> dassouki: i mean remote desktop?
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> maxagaz, wrong room for that question...
[14:37] <blivori> DracoZA, ok thx :)
[14:37] <blivori> DracoZA, <3 you :)
[14:37] <dassouki> slowlearner, ya in system preferences, remote desktop with a password
[14:37] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow i'll get a new video card but i have 2 questions above :)  soo may you help me with that? ^^
[14:37] <hema> i can instal photo shop in ubuntu
[14:37] <ChaosTheory_> My login screen resolution is *huge*. Everything is at the far right of the screen.
[14:37] <slowlearner> dassouki: what happens when you telnet destintion_ip 5900 ?
[14:37] <ChaosTheory_> How do I fix this? System -> Administration -> Login Window is crashing. . . ?
[14:37] <hema> ?
[14:38] <arvind_khadri> hema, there is gimp
[14:38] <Pici> !wine | hema
[14:38] <ubotu> hema: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[14:38] <hema> @hema  dd
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> spanther, what were the questions.
[14:38] <dassouki> slowlearner, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:38] <arvind_khadri> hema, but if you are particular about photo shop then get wine
[14:38] <DanQnA> excuse me...it's been a while since I used Ubuntu last...because I can never get my IC to work...anyone know how to set up a "3" wireless modem? Please...
[14:38] <hema> oki
[14:38] <UnIcOrE> helo
[14:38] <hema> oki
[14:38] <DanQnA> I googled it ;)
[14:38] <UnIcOrE> I used to use ubuntu
[14:38] <dassouki> slowlearner, i connect ot the remote via ssh
[14:38] <hema> @ubotu   oki
[14:39] <slowlearner> dassouki: you mean you can connect to it via ssh?
[14:39] <hema> i neeeeeeed down load mannger
[14:39] <dassouki> slowlearner, ya, a stupid typo :D I can connect to the remote via ssh
[14:39] <hema> manager
[14:39] <slowlearner> dassouki: can you telnet localhost 5900 on the remote machine?
[14:39] <hema> *hema
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > hema
[14:39] <Pici> !enter | hema
[14:39] <ubotu> hema: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:40] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow okay uh i'll get a brand new MSI (Retail) NX8800GT T2D512E OC 512MB 2xDVI/TV in a few days and now i wanna know if 8800 model is allready supported (without screen error bugs) for linux and then its a OC edition means overclocked from them i dont know if thats done on the chip or at driver so will i get this power only at vista or when i use linux too? its gpu from 600 to 650
[14:40] <Leeuw> anyone know the command to start second x-session on different monitor on differnet vga-card ?   (monitor switched off now; not in dual screen setup)
[14:40] <dassouki> slowlearner, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:40] <hema> oki
[14:40] <hema> sorry i m new in linux
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> spanther, oc is on chip...   8800 still need the driver from nvidia for best results.
[14:41] <slowlearner> dassouki: and you're doing that in the remote machine right? if so then remote desktop isnt enabled
[14:41] <hema> !Pici > hema
[14:41] <Pici> hema: ?
[14:41] <arvind_khadri> hema, that comes default ,there is another one d4x
[14:41] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow that means this overclocking is everytime and i only need original nvidia drivers and not these special MSI shipped ones only ?
[14:41] <hema> want to try send Pm Massge
[14:41] <dassouki> slowlearner, yes I'm doing it through ssh. is there a way to enable desktop through ssh ?
[14:41] <hema> how i can send it >?
[14:42] <DanQnA> did MSI ship Linux drivers too?
[14:42] <XB23> anyone here know anything about redhat?
[14:42] <Scrounch> hema:  you need to be register
[14:42] <spanther> DanQnA idk its not here yet its at the way :)
[14:42] <jrib> XB23: ask in the redhat channel
[14:42] <XB23> i have
[14:42] <bazhang> XB23: sure but best to ask in their channel
[14:42] <DanQnA> none of my video cards ever came with Linux drivers
[14:42] <hema> sorry all i must go now
[14:42] <arvind_khadri> hema, sudo apt-get install d4x
[14:42] <XB23> im just trying to get ip forwarding to work
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> spanther, I doubt you will get the special drivers to work.  I have an oc nvidia here..
[14:43] <slowlearner> dassouki: i don't really know what backend the remote desktop is using :(
[14:43] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow ah okay
[14:43] <slowlearner> although you can install svncserver or something
[14:43] <slowlearner> dassouki: vncserver i mean :D
[14:44] <dassouki> slowlearner, it's installed
[14:45] <DanQnA> so...how would I initialize a connection on my wireless modem?
[14:45] <DanQnA> pppd or something :(
[14:45] <spanther> Jack_Sparrow you know i just didnt know how they made this i read OC and thought it would be inside the driver maybe this higher stepping or so but i didnt know for sure :)
[14:46] <slowlearner> dassouki: then you can probably run vncserver
[14:46] <dassouki> slowlearner, i can run it, but i can't access it from my pc at work
[14:47] <DanQnA> :( ...
[14:47] <buckie> Hi can anyone tell me how to ssh connect to a server thats behind a router(with firewall) ?
[14:47] <dassouki> slowlearner, when i'm logged in through ssh, i can run vncserver. However, I can't connect from my computer at hte office
[14:47] <robertw> dassouki, then that means they probably have vnc access blocked at work
[14:48] <bezibaerchen> buckie: forward port 22 from the router to the server
[14:48] <dassouki> robertw, evenhtrough ubuntu ?
[14:48] <zionpsyfer> dassouki: Ask the admin for vpn access?
[14:48] <robertw> dassouki, yes
[14:48] <robertw> dassouki, it doesnt matter what os you run, if they block access to a port, it wont work on any OS
[14:49] <dassouki> robertw, but ican do vnc from my windows to my windows
[14:49] <buckie> bezibaerchen, I cant acces the software from here :( atleast i think not ?
[14:49] <buckie> bezibaerchen, On the router that is...I have the ip of the router ?
[14:49] <robertw> dassouki, then i would check to see what ports vncserver is using on the ubuntu box
[14:49] <robertw> dassouki, and be DOUBLY SURE that vncserver is actually running.
[14:50] <dassouki> robertw, how would i do that (check ports) and i ran vncserver , by simply typing vncserver into ssh
[14:50] <slowlearner> robertw:  i think it's 5900 or 5901 hmmm lemme check
[14:50] <brunodbo> does anyone know a good howto concerning burning an (ubuntu) iso image to a cd (using windows)?
[14:50] <robertw> brunodbo, use something like nero to burn it
[14:51] <Scrounch> robertw:  iftop -i eth0 , you can view realtime connection
[14:51] <robertw> brunodbo, any windoze cd burning app will work
[14:51] <prashant___> hi how can i back up whole ubuntu install :)
[14:51] <bezibaerchen> buckie: well in the firewall of the router. u need port 22 forwarded to the server
[14:51] <Scrounch> (wlan0, etc..)
[14:51] <bazhang> brunodbo: get isorecorder2 (freeware) it works a treat
[14:51] <arvind_khadri> prashant___, you mean the ubuntu installed on your drive
[14:52] <buckie> bezibaerchen, and routers are diffrent so its not like i can acess some standart ip for configuration on local lan ?
[14:52] <brunodbo> robertw bazhang thanks
[14:52] <robertw> brunodbo, yup
[14:52] <UnIcOrE> arvind_khadri the best solution is using Windows XP
[14:52] <arvind_khadri> UnIcOrE, not me  :) its prashant___
[14:53] <arvind_khadri> UnIcOrE, ohh yeah ...
[14:53] <steventhebest> salut a tous
[14:54] <arvind_khadri> UnIcOrE, so you like windows
[14:57] <prashant__1> arvind_khadri: i got disonnected can u repeat ?
[14:58] <prashant__1> I want to know a good way to back up whole ubuntu install :) which can be installed later from a DVD
[14:58] <ajitam> hi how can I check computer temperature via terminal ?
[14:58] <arvind_khadri> prashant__1, thats ok...do you want the backup of the installed ubuntu
[14:58] <artir> backup /hom
[14:58] <artir> e
[14:58] <DracoZA> prashant__1, a nice way is to clone the entire hard drive if you have a spare drive to use
[14:59] <prashant__1> arvind_khadri: yes
[14:59] <prashant__1> :)
[14:59] <quaal> anyone recommend a program for adding text to video
[14:59] <quaal> i dont see where in avidemux
[14:59] <artir> kdenlive
[14:59] <artir> quaal
[14:59] <quaal> artir, ok thanks
[14:59] <artir> :)
[14:59] <Leeuw> ﻿anyone know the command to start second x-session on different monitor on differnet vga-card ?   (monitor switched off now; not in dual screen setup)
[15:00] <prashant__1> DracoZA: how do i do that :)
[15:00] <XB23> guys when i try to bind to network alias eth0 i get the error "No such process" and failed to bring up eth0
[15:01] <hwilde> XB23, what command are you running
[15:02] <Leeuw> prashant__1 use ghst: is on UBCD4WIN (google): or any of the other image-makers on that cd
[15:02] <XB23> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:02] <Leeuw> prashant__1 ghost I mean
[15:02] <DracoZA> prashant__1,  if you know your drive names then: sudo dd /if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc
[15:02] <hwilde> XB23, run ifconfig.  does eth0 appear
[15:02] <XB23> yeh it does
[15:02] <ajitam> anyone ?
[15:03] <DracoZA> prashant__1, destination drives can be larger but bot smaller than source drive
[15:03] <bazhang> ajitam: what is your question please
[15:03] <Leeuw> prashant__1 or use ultimate boot cd (is linux, better, UBCD4win is a hassle, you need windoze), I believe it has an image program on it; ie make an image of yer hd, and put it back on the hd you want it on
[15:03] <ajitam> how can I check computer temperature via terminal ?
[15:03] <XB23> hwilde: it does
[15:04] <Pici> ajitam: you need to have the lm-sensors package installed then you can use the sensors command
[15:04] <bazhang> ajitam: is this on a laptop? or a desktop
[15:04] <ajitam> ok thx
[15:04] <ajitam> bazhang:  desk
[15:04] <Scrounch> sensors
[15:05] <bazhang> ajitam: I have used superkaramba; there may be a gnome equivalent as well
[15:05] <hwilde> XB23, sudo ifconfig eth0 down;  sudo ifconfig eth0 up;   then sudo /etc/networking/restart
[15:05] <Pici> bazhang: he said from the terminal ;)
[15:05] <Leeuw> ﻿prashant__1 or use ultimate boot cd (is linux, better, UBCD4win is a hassle, you need windoze), I believe it has an image program on it; ie make an image of yer hd, and put it back on the hd you want it on
[15:05] <ajitam> bazhang: great I'll check
[15:05] <prashant__1> Leeuw : ok but is it possible to backup the image to a DVD and then restore the image on HDD
[15:06] <hwilde> !dd | prashant__1
[15:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:06] <hwilde> prashant__1, look up the program "dd"
[15:06] <XB23> same error hwilde
[15:06] <Scrounch> ajitam: sensors-applet -> Display readings from hardware sensors in your Gnome panel
[15:06] <bazhang> Pici: sorry did not read carefully enough
[15:06] <Leeuw> prashant__1 if itś smaller than 4 gig it is, yeah; the image is as large as the data, it can go on a larger drive
[15:06] <prashant__1> hwilde: what is dd ??? i cant understand :(
[15:06] <hwilde> XB23, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file, and ifconfig
[15:06] <hwilde> prashant__1, it is a program.  go look it up
[15:06] <Pici> !backup | prashant__1
[15:06] <ubotu> prashant__1: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[15:07] <Leeuw> prashant__1 google UBCD, wich is Ultimate Boot CD
[15:08] <Leeuw> prashant__1 check if there's an image prog on it (prob yes), otherwise look for other image prog
[15:08] <prashant__1> leeuw: i will look it now can u stay please :)
[15:08] <Leeuw> prashant__1 like norton Ghost (bittorrent plenty around), need dos thoug for that
[15:08] <hwilde> prashant__1, you could get "ghost for unix"  that would work fine
[15:08] <mattywarr> hi - is there any way to set ubuntu to always open .exe files with WINE? At present I need to right click and "Open With"?
[15:08] <Leeuw> prashant__1 sure, ain goin nowhere
[15:09] <Leeuw> prashant__1 I'll look too
[15:09] <DracoZA> prashant__1, dd = duplicate disk
[15:09] <hwilde> mattywarr, right click on one, properties,  "Open With"  tab
[15:09] <Pici> !piracy > Leeuw (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:10] <Leeuw> Pici: yer soooo right; I'lll better my wayz....    Can you suggest an open source alternative ?
[15:10] <Pici> Leeuw: There were many backup suggestions made in ubotu's message above.
[15:11] <Leeuw> Pici: I don't   see the alternative for an image program there... any ideas ?
[15:11] <arvind_khadri> mattywarr, if you double click wine automatically opens ;)
[15:11] <hwilde> Pici, his system doesn't boot so it's going to be tough for him to apt-get install duplicity or any of those suggestions...  he needs a ghost4unix cd or equivalent
[15:11] <prashant__1> Leeuw: there is Hard disk cloning toll on UBCD
[15:11] <mattywarr> Thats what i thought but it keeps telling me that it doesn;t know how to open them
[15:11] <banditul> how can i search for packages using apt-get ?
[15:11] <Pici> hwilde: I was only saying not to suggest finding a bittorent for ghost.
[15:11] <Leeuw> prashant__1 ok stick with that;
[15:12] <bazhang> banditul: apt-cache search
[15:12] <Scrounch> apt-get search
[15:12] <Scrounch> oups :(
[15:12] <mattywarr> but it seems it was because I had 2 versions of wine installed (Upgrade problem)
[15:12] <prashant__1> Leeuw: any idea how is that going to work :s
[15:12] <Leeuw> Pici: ubcd doesn't contain illegal stuff, right ?
[15:12] <mattywarr> removed one from the lsit in Properties and now its working perfectly :)
[15:12] <Pici> Leeuw: correct.
[15:12] <Leeuw> Pici:  good.
[15:12] <arvind_khadri> mattywarr, :) happy linuxing
[15:13] <Leeuw> Pici:  thanx for setting me straight, I agree totally, just thought it was an easy way to go, but it ś not, that's the whole point of open source, right ?
[15:13] <hwilde> ghost4unix !  open source disk imager boot cd
[15:13] <hwilde> norton sux
[15:14] <Mirrakor> latest updates - "Neuste Aktualisierungen" oder "Letzte Aktualisierungen" ?
[15:14] <mattywarr> arvind_khadri: Thanks, I'm loving it :)
[15:14] <dav7> wow, my bot doesn't suck
[15:14] <Leeuw> prashant__1: just boot the cd, start the program (the cd gives instructions, has F1 help and stuff, and go from there...    also check the website, it should have docs and links for the programs on it
[15:14] <bazhang> Mirrakor: english please
[15:14] <arvind_khadri> mattywarr, always welcome here
[15:15] <Mirrakor> bazhang: sorry, wrong channel
[15:15] <Leeuw> prashant__1: CHECK HWILDE 'S SUGGESTION: ﻿ghost4unix !  open source disk imager boot cd
[15:16] <Leeuw> sorry for pesky capslock, folx
[15:16] <spiniker> hello
[15:16] <arvind_khadri> spiniker, hi
[15:16] <spiniker> any ideas how can i use the cube,i seem to have only two desktop
[15:16] <spiniker> hello arvind
[15:16] <arvind_khadri> spiniker, thats compiz
[15:17] <prashant__1> Leeuw: hello tell full form of dd please :)
[15:17] <arvind_khadri> prashant__1, man dd
[15:17] <Leeuw> prashant__1: what do you mean ?
[15:17] <hwilde> !cube | spiniker
[15:17] <ubotu> spiniker: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[15:18] <spiniker> yup, i actually used it before(ubuntu) but since i have to upgrade my pc i need to do a clean install
[15:18] <dav7> spiniker: I'm puzzled as to why an upgrade means reinstalling. Are you getting a new hard disk..?
[15:19] <mysterycool> !fonts
[15:19] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:19] <laughzilla> Lamego , jack_sparrow , slowlearner et al ...  the solution was to do this:  e2fsck /dev/sda1     and then click "y" on each "Fix?" question that was being asked of me as that ran.
[15:19] <Leeuw> prashant__1: also check (copy from some lines back) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[15:20] <Leeuw> prashant__1: and:
[15:20] <dav7> laughzilla: "click"...?
[15:20] <Leeuw> !sbackup
[15:20] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[15:20] <laughzilla> once that ran, i mounted the drive aok, copied my data, and now i'm gonna format that 10 GB disk and get on with my tasks.  thanks again folks :)
[15:20] <dav7> laughzilla: you mean press? :P
[15:20] <Leeuw> !cloning
[15:20] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:20] <dassouki> how can i copy a local file to a serverfile through ssh
[15:20] <laughzilla> dav7 - yes .. click , press, call it whatever you want.  clicking the keyboard.  pressing the mouse.  and versa vica. :)
[15:20] <dav7> laughzilla: lol
[15:20] <dav7> laughzilla: k
[15:20] <slowlearner> e2fschk? good for you.. last time i used it it broke my system after answring yes to all questions :D
[15:20] <Lamego> dassouki, man scp
[15:20] <dav7> dassouki: sco
[15:20] <dav7> dassouki: scp
[15:21] <dav7> *
[15:21] <FloodBot1> dav7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <dassouki> Lamego, dav7 thanks
[15:21] <Sefram> How can i determine which user is running a bin/sh script inside that script?
[15:21] <dav7> dassouki: generally the syntax is scp sourcefile user@host:/path/to/the/destination
[15:21] <laughzilla> bbl.  #ubuntu rocks :)
[15:21] <Sefram> Any ideas?
[15:21] <dav7> dassouki: or, if you're copying from a server to yourself, reverse it
[15:22] <unop> Sefram, from within a script - check/use the $USER variable
[15:22] <unop> Sefram, or whoami
[15:22] <dassouki> dav7 how about if i want to copy a folder and all it's sub folders and files?
[15:22] <dav7> dassouki: scp -r
[15:23] <dav7> dassouki: and specify the path, or if you're in the base path, use .
[15:23] <Sefram> unop: is the $USER variable always defined inside a #!/bin/sh script?
[15:23] <arvind_khadri> dassouki, cp -r
[15:23] <dav7> dassouki: ie use a single dot for the path specifier
[15:23] <dav7> arvind_khadri: scp, not cp :P
[15:23] <dassouki> dav7 scp -r user@hotst:/var/www/foldertocopy
[15:23] <prashant__1> !automate
[15:23] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[15:24] <dav7> dassouki: that won't work
[15:24] <dav7> dassouki: you neglected to insert a destination :P
[15:24] <dassouki> dav7 scp -r user@hotst:/var/www/foldertocopy /var/www/foldertopaste?
[15:24] <dav7> dassouki: yes, actually.
[15:25] <dassouki> dav7 thanks
[15:25] <dav7> dassouki: that's fine
[15:25] <Exteris> can i get logmein to work on linux/ubuntu?
[15:25] <dav7> Exteris: you can use VNC.
[15:25] <arvind_khadri> dav7, i thought on a stand alone system
[15:25] <Exteris> dav7, vnc is slow and not webbased
[15:25] <Filmer> Thanks for all you do to make ubuntu an awesome distro... Heading out for the day y'all
[15:25] <dav7> Exteris: VNC has a webbased solution based on Java
[15:26] <dassouki> dav7  ithink i'm putting the wrong host :(
[15:26] <dav7> dassouki: if you were to copy something from me the syntax would be scp dav7@dav7.net:/the/file/to/copy /where/to/copy/it
[15:26] <Exteris> dav7, not from behind a very restrictive firewall (http only and only port 80/443)
[15:26] <dav7> Exteris: ouch
[15:27] <dav7> I wonder how many places run ssh on port 80 haha
[15:27] <dassouki> dav7 i'm copying something from the local to the networked computer
[15:27] <dav7> or indivuduals
[15:27] <dav7> dassouki: ahhhhhh
[15:27] <Exteris> dav7, not even ssh, because that's no http traffic, i tried on my home server
[15:27] <dav7> dassouki: your syntax is copying from a remote to a local
[15:27] <jessid> hello. if I install ubuntu in an xbox360, would i be able to read the content of the original 360 dvd games????
[15:27] <dav7> dassouki: reverse the parameters
[15:27] <m3ltd0wn123> I have a strange problem.. I have intalled ubuntu on this server before, and it was working fine, but I messed up some permissions so I chose to reinstall. I reinstalled ubuntu, and for some reason network isnt working now
[15:27] <m3ltd0wn123> I tried restarting
[15:27] <dav7> Exteris: wow
[15:27] <wyleyrabbit> hi everyone
[15:27] <dav7> Exteris: so it picks up if it's not HTTP and killzors it?
[15:27] <Exteris> dav7, that's why i need logmein, or need to continue using httptunnel
[15:27] <m3ltd0wn123> The cord is plugged in and lit up, and it was working 30 minutes ago before i started to reinstall
[15:28] <Exteris> dav7, it never sees the daylight again;)
[15:28] <dav7> Exteris: heh
[15:28] <Exteris> dav7, and you can only view sites on port 80/443
[15:28] <Exteris> but logmein works
[15:28] <dav7> Exteris: I present a 3rd solution, Ajaxterm: http://antony.lesuisse.org/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm
[15:28] <Exteris> dav7, i tried it, it's slow
[15:28] <dav7> oh.
[15:28] <Exteris> and i tried webterm
[15:29] <Exteris> and anyterm
[15:29] <wyleyrabbit> I understand that 8.04 is shipping in a few days. How easy will it be to upgrade an ubuntu desktop from 7.10 to 8.04?
[15:29] <Exteris> wyleyrabbit, quite easy
[15:29] <gaara> اه
[15:29] <dav7> do you actually have to reinstall it?
[15:29] <gaara> hi
[15:29] <dav7> gaara: hi
[15:29] <arvind_khadri> gaara, hi
[15:29] <wyleyrabbit> Exteris, is it an upgrade in place, or do I need to reinstall from CD?
[15:30] <arvind_khadri> wyleyrabbit, upgrade
[15:30] <Exteris> wyleyrabbit, in place, you only need to restart because of the kernel upgrade
[15:30] <Dysk> Dumb question guys, but how do I upgrade to 8.04 with apt?
[15:30] <Exteris> Dysk, apt-get upgrade && apt-
[15:30] <dav7> I'd hope it was in-place. The distro I'm using right-now... doesn't even do updates haha
[15:30] <Exteris> get dist-upgrade
[15:30] <arvind_khadri> Dysk, update-manager -d
[15:30] <wyleyrabbit> Exteris, excellent!
[15:30] <arvind_khadri> Exteris, thats not a good idea
[15:30] <Exteris> arvind_khadri, oh no i see
[15:30] <Exteris> sorry.
[15:31] <Dysk> arvind_khadri, Thanks!
[15:31] <dav7> Arch Linux instead uses rolling releases and the packages simply get continually updated... there are no "versions". Which is nice.
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[15:31] <arvind_khadri> Exteris, as some times the system hanges with that apt thing
[15:31] <bazhang> dav7: wrong channel
[15:31] <gaara> any one there work in server manage and security
[15:31] <Exteris> </shameless plug>
[15:31] <dav7> bazhang: lol
[15:31] <ir2> hello
[15:31] <Exteris> dav7, any other ideas?
[15:31] <Dysk> gaara, No
[15:31] <dav7> Exteris: well.... I'm not really sure. :/
[15:32] <arvind_khadri> Exteris, officia way is update-manager -d
[15:32] <Dysk> gaara, Nobody works on server management or security here
[15:32] <dav7> O.o
[15:32] <Exteris> arvind_khadri, didn't know that, thanks
[15:32] <wyleyrabbit> ok, next question: For our server (dual xeon 3 GHz, 2 GB, 1.2 TB of RAID5) here at the office (does web, mail, spam filtering, ftp, etc.) we're using Centos 4. Would there any significant benefit to moving over to ubuntu server?
[15:32] <ir2> any1 can help m please, i am using vmware to boot to physical drive and i get the activation on windows how can i fix it up
[15:32] <gaara> so can you tell me about room for that plz
[15:32] <napsy__> Hello. Where are the *.mo translation files located in Ubuntu?
[15:32] <Pici> gaara: If you are looking for something Ubuntu specific, check in #ubuntu-server, otherwise check out ##security
[15:32] <gaara> thank you
[15:32] <dav7> ir2: you can't.
[15:32] <arvind_khadri> Exteris, thats ok
[15:32] <dav7> ir2: you will need to install a new copy of windows in vmware.
[15:32] <ir2> there is no solution
[15:32] <remote> Good morning.
[15:33] <arvind_khadri> napsy__, locate *.mo
[15:33] <ir2> ?
[15:33] <dav7> ir2: or use qemu or virtualbox (you'll need to reinstall but those programs are better)
[15:33] <Exteris> dav7, he can create an image from the disk
[15:33] <napsy__> arvind_khadri: tnx
[15:33] <ir2> what is virtualbox?
[15:33] <dav7> a free alternative to vmware
[15:33] <ir2> and i can boot to physical drive ?
[15:33] <biagidp> is vmware not free?
[15:33] <Exteris> and one without processor virtualization, so much faster
[15:33] <dav7> bazhang: it's not open source.
[15:34] <arvind_khadri> biagidp, its not open source
[15:34] <ir2> dav can i boot to physical drive with it ?
[15:34] <remote> I am in the process of installing Ubuntu on a workstation that has Debian stable on it, only the filesystem is crypto_LUKS and unrecognized by the base default ubuntu installer, would anyone have a recommendation as to prevent me from having to delete data needed on the old system through the new system's installation?
[15:34] <shingouz> if someone happens to have a thinkpad with an ltmodem running there, could you do a quick grep on the dmesg for the device the thing shows up as?
[15:34] <dav7> ir2: you'll need to reinstall because windows does a thorough investigation of your hardware then stores codes about the kind of hardware you have. Then, if you change hardware (ie change from your real PC's hardware to the "virtual" hardware in the VM), windows realizes this and goes BANG
[15:34] <m3ltd0wn123> I just reinstalled ubuntu and now my network isn't working, even though it worked fine last time i installed it from the same cd.. any ideas?
[15:34] <biagidp> arvind_khadri, I misunderstood the use of free
[15:34] <dav7> ir2: and asks for your key
[15:34] <alexandre_> il i a des francais
[15:35] <arvind_khadri> biagidp, everyone does :)
[15:35] <dav7> ir2: so, yes, you can boot an OS that is on your hard disk, but no, you cannot boot a copy of windows that is on one PC from another "PC", be it virtual or real.
[15:35] <MikeCulver> shingouz: I have such a laptop.  What command must I run?
[15:35] <Sefram> unop: neither `whoami` nor `echo $USER` seems to be working. Is ther any other option?
[15:35] <arvind_khadri> !fr | alexandre_
[15:35] <ubotu> alexandre_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:35] <ir2> i dont know what u mean when u say pc
[15:35] <ir2> i want to boto to a fat partition with it
[15:35] <ir2> boot*
[15:35] <dav7> ir2: vmware, virtualbox, qemu etc are all emulators. They're computers, just virtual.
[15:35] <User1> http://s4.bitefight.sk/c.php?uid=26294
[15:35] <{g}> Hello People! I would like to open links like "file:///mnt/some/folder/some_file.txt" in Firefox. But it does not work. When i click on the link, nothing happens. But when I enter the url in the location bar, it works. Any way to get the links working? (Firefox 2 under Ubuntu)
[15:35] <shingouz> MikeCulver: umh. not really sure because the laptop i am working on right now is without a network access and about 5000 miles away from me. try 'dmesg | grep tty'
[15:36] <dassouki> dav7 i'm having troubles copying to my /var/www on my remote
[15:36] <dav7> ir2: when you run windows in vmware, it thinks it's running on a real computer.
[15:36] <User1> please help http://s4.bitefight.sk/c.php?uid=26294
[15:36] <arvind_khadri> {g}, FF isnt IE
[15:36] <shingouz> ..if i had the laptop here i would check it personally but... <shrugs>
[15:36] <dav7> dassouki: what command are you using?
[15:36] <dozorny> http://s4.bitefight.sk/c.php?uid=26294
[15:36] <dav7> O.o
[15:36] <prashant__1> !clone
[15:36] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:37] <ir2> so each time i will switch from windows to linux i will need to activate again and again no matter what program i will use ?
[15:37] <MikeCulver> shingouz: I'm not sure this is the same modem, but it is using a restricted module to support it.  I'll PM the output
[15:37] <shingouz> MikeCulver: k
[15:37] <dav7> ir2: basically, yes.
[15:37] <dassouki> dav7
[15:37] <dassouki> dav7 sudo scp -r /var/www/featureserver-1.11/ user@host:/var/www/fs/
[15:37] <dav7> ir2: unless you install a NEW copy of windows for the VM.
[15:37] <ir2> and there is no fix for that ?
[15:37] <arvind_khadri> {g}, FireFox doesnt work like Internet Explorer does
[15:37] <dav7> ir2: blame windows. Really do.
[15:37] <dav7> ir2: do you want me to PM you to explain why in detail?
[15:37] <dav7> dassouki: er...
[15:37] <shingouz> MikeCulver: grep tty /var/log/dmesg might also help
[15:37] <ir2> but dav this is the point that i want to use samw windows
[15:37] <ir2> for both boots
[15:38] <dav7> ir2: you can't.
[15:38] <dav7> ir2: may I PM you?
[15:38] <dassouki> dav7 i j had to block the user/host sorry :D
[15:38] <dav7> dassouki: that should work... ahh haha k
[15:38] <ir2> i read on the web many people did it
[15:38] <slowlearner> dassouki: looks good to me whats the problem
[15:38] <dav7> ir2: may I PM you?
[15:38] <ir2> wonder how did they solved this up
[15:38] <ir2> sure
[15:38] <dassouki> slowlearner, i get a permission denied on the local file
[15:39] <slowlearner> dassouki: so you don't have permission on the local file
[15:40] <andyB> join #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <slowlearner> dassouki: more probably, you don't have permission to write on the remote dir :)
[15:40] <dassouki> slowleaner well the sudo only works on the local, how can i also make it work on the host
[15:41] <slowlearner> dassouki: you should use a user on the remote system with priv on that dir
[15:41] <dassouki> slowlearner, i created a second admin, and that's the one i'm using
[15:41] <dlugas-ny> ohhh ubuntu server
[15:42] <slowlearner> dassouki: what you can do is just transfer to the home dir.. and then ssh later and transfer the file to webroot(this time you can sudo)
[15:42] <MikeCulver> I have 8.04 on a dual boot config.  It works normally upon boot.  However, when I resume from suspend, I can't write to my etx3 fs.  I can, however, read and write to my other NTFS fs.  How should I go about fixing this problem?
[15:43] <dassouki> slowlearner, thanks
[15:43] <Pici> MikeCulver: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[15:43] <MikeCulver> thanks
[15:44] <dassouki> slowlearner, dav7 that worked :D
[15:45] <dav7> whoa
[15:45] <dav7> can has lotsa joins/parts/quits? :P
[15:46] <dav7> dassouki: cool
[15:46] <treffer> hi, I just replaced a vista home basic with ubuntu 8.04rc and had a problem with the b43 driver: Enabling the driver worked on the live-cd but freezed the install - any known bugs/fuixes?
[15:47] <Pici> treffer: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[15:47] <treffer> Pici: ok
[15:48] <orges> hello world
[15:48] <dav7> hi
[15:48] <slowlearner> dassouki: great
[15:48] <arvind_khadri> orges, hi
[15:49]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[15:51] <Pici> !away > Scrounch (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:51] <awox> Hi guys. I am having trouble installing o a machine with defective ps2 port. I cannot select non-graphics mode, but my keyboard works.. can I kill X, and proceed with text mode install?
[15:52] <awox> (the X install stalls, I get this blue little iwndow thing).. I can use the terminal though
[15:52] <h00k> awox: there is a text-mode installer CD you can download
[15:52]  * yeh_ help
[15:52] <DJones> !alternate | awox
[15:52] <ubotu> awox: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[15:53] <awox> righto.
[15:53] <awox> thanks mates.
[15:53] <m3ltd0wn123> You know whats nice?
[15:53] <m3ltd0wn123> Being on the same fiber line as Georgia Tech's Software Repository.
[15:53] <Dysk> m3ltd0wn123, really.
[15:54] <m3ltd0wn123> Took 4 minutes for me to download AND burn iso.
[15:54] <h00k> m3ltd0wn123: I'm jealous.
[15:54] <vpalle> Hi, does anynoe know how to change the default escape shortcut for gnu screen? I want to use the windows key instead of C-a ...
[15:55] <Pici> vpalle: Take a look at the manpage for screen, there are a lot of options available, you'd need to set them up in a .screenrc file though.
[15:55] <awox> Where is the minicd?
[15:55] <hwilde> m3ltd0wn123, gtech hosts the southeastern us backbone... so everybody is on that line
[15:55] <dassouki> how can i access the repository list through terminal
[15:55] <erUSUL> vpalle: set up a custom .screenrc
[15:55] <m3ltd0wn123> Yeah we just got direct access to it at my school
[15:55] <m3ltd0wn123> Wasn't fiber line to my school
[15:56] <m3ltd0wn123> just an oc64 line :p
[15:56] <Pici> !ot | m3ltd0wn123
[15:56] <ubotu> m3ltd0wn123: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:56] <m3ltd0wn123> sorry
[15:56] <vpalle> thx all, I know about screenrc though, I just don't know how to express the windows key in octal or otherwise
[15:56] <zvacet> awox :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:57] <gabbs> anyone know what might be causing softlockup errors?
[15:57] <Pici> vpalle: If you have xwindows on that computer xev might tell you what the keycode for the windows key is.
[15:58]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[15:58] <vpalle> Pici, ok, thx, I'll try that
[15:59] <ICQnumber> i am thinking of installing ubuntu, does it uses Grub by default for dual mode with windows?
[15:59] <Pici> ICQnumber: Indeed it does.
[15:59] <zvacet> ICQnumber :yes
[15:59] <h00k> ICQnumber: yes it does :)
[16:00] <Hack00> Hmm, how can i obtain audio stream which is generated when im  speaking in my microphone?
[16:00] <paul_panther> flirt
[16:01] <Hack00> can i cat /dev/some_device ?
[16:02] <user11_011> !hardy
[16:02] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:02] <user11_011> !heron
[16:05] <Hack00> How can i see which device my microphone is connected to?
[16:05] <Dysk> Hack00, Yack into the microphone and try each device?
[16:06] <Hack00> Dysk: How do i try them? :O
[16:06] <LSG> Hack00 Well what do you mean by devices? Do you have more than one audio card?
[16:07] <Hack00> Dysk: My microphone is working fine, i hear my self in the speakers when i talk in the mic
[16:08] <Hack00> LSG: I think i have only one audio card, but i guess my audio card has several devices in /dev/ eg one for input, one for lineout, one for 3d sound etc..?
[16:08] <LSG> Hack00 See if you can record yourself, and if you can, see what's the source device, and that's the one it's plugged into
[16:08] <Dysk> Hack00, open up alsamixer/gnome-volume-control
[16:09] <HZ> excuse me where to ask about sth in SuSE?
[16:10] <LSG> HZ #Suse?
[16:10] <HZ> yeh
[16:10] <HZ> LSG is it how to ask, to join that chanall
[16:11] <LSG> HZ You wanna know the command to join that channel?
[16:11] <Pici> HZ: /join #suse
[16:11] <^^malajenho^> hi everyone
[16:11] <^^malajenho^> I've updated my gutsy gibbon to hardy heron, but now when I try to login, it doesn't start session, anyone has the same problem ?
[16:11] <Pici> ^^malajenho^: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:11] <HZ> LGS yeh plz
[16:12] <^^malajenho^> oks
[16:12] <^^malajenho^> thx ;)
[16:12] <Pici> HZ:typ:/join #suse
[16:12] <LSG> HZ Type /join #Suse, like Pici said just now
[16:12] <HZ> oh well thank you both guys
[16:12] <msx> how can I install latest blender?
[16:13] <LSG> msx: Synaptik?
[16:13] <nottha_k> is ubuntu.com down?
[16:13] <Pici> nottha_k: Its up here.
[16:14] <msx> will it work like on debian with sudo apt-get install blender?
[16:14] <LSG> msx: Probably
[16:14] <Pici> msx: yes.
[16:14] <ICQnumber> nottha_k, it is not
[16:14] <Pici> !info blender
[16:14] <ubotu> blender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.44-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7168 kB, installed size 18628 kB
[16:15] <msx> !info wine
[16:15] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[16:15] <msx> !info mesa
[16:15] <ubotu> Package mesa does not exist in gutsy
[16:15] <msx> !info dosbox
[16:15] <ubotu> dosbox (source: dosbox): A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.71-0.1 (gutsy), package size 658 kB, installed size 2096 kB
[16:16] <Anom> #Aesrak
[16:16] <Pici> !msgthebot | msx ;)
[16:16] <ubotu> msx ;): Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:16] <nottha_k> odd. why would I have connectivity problems with a single site.
[16:16] <Anom> JOIN aesrak
[16:16] <lonran> hi everybody
[16:16] <step2back> hello, all
[16:16] <dav7> lol
[16:16] <step2back> does somebody help me with finding Steven Sheehy
[16:17] <plurt> anyone else ever had the live-cd not booting because of a bcm43xx not loading error?
[16:17] <dav7> O.o
[16:17] <LSG> o_o
[16:17] <sipior> nottha_k: well, unless *they* are having connectivity problems :-)
[16:17] <jamie> plurt no always booted just no net
[16:17] <Pici> !offtopic | step2back
[16:17] <ubotu> step2back: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:18] <Arek> how do I turn off that had entered the room messages in pidgin?
[16:18] <HZ> I've changed my root password successfully but till now when it asks me for a password it doewn't get the new one It need the old so should I restart ubutnu or what ?
[16:18] <plurt> tried it on a dell vostro just now and it hangs on the error, keeps trying to load it over and over
[16:18] <Pici> !noroot | HZ
[16:18] <ubotu> HZ: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[16:19] <jamie> plurt u could try to boot with no net
[16:19] <www2> hi all
[16:19] <plurt> lol, alright, didn't even look at the option menu at boot to see if that was possible :)
[16:20] <name10135> Hi all, avg to adv'd computer user, trying to install 7.10 on a very new model laptop, never worked w/ linux before, and looking for someone to help me through the install for dual-boot
[16:20] <plurt> thanks for the tip jamie
[16:20] <jamie> the BCM43xx doesnt give full wifi support
[16:20] <HZ> Pici, I'm sorry what does it mean?
[16:20] <msx> is there a bot whick knows about packages in hardy?
[16:20] <Pici> HZ: It means we don't support having a root password here.
[16:20] <plurt> well, I think there's plenty to fix it once I have Ubuntu up and running
[16:20] <primski> i dont get it either
[16:20] <Pici> msx: message the bot in private like this: info package hardy
[16:20] <LSG> name10135: Should be smooth enough not to need help though
[16:20] <plurt> think it'll be fixed with the new release?
[16:21] <sipior> Pici: out of curiosity, what problems would a user have as a *result* of having a root password? i can imagine the opposite, of course, with a user who manages to remove himself from the admin group, for example...
[16:21] <jamie> for wifi and BCM43xx i use ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[16:21] <name10135> GUI installer does not work due to graphics card on MB, need help through the text-based installer
[16:21] <primski> sry, i get it nowð
[16:21] <HZ> Pici but someone told me to write sudo passwd
[16:21] <Pici> HZ: That person was wrong then.
[16:21] <LSG> name10135: Oooh, that makes more sense
[16:21] <name10135> Yeah....
[16:22] <primski> HZ, that changes *your* password, to have root password, means you have enabled root login, which is disabled by defazult, and *that* we do not support here
[16:22] <mib_rfm9sz4o> any word on the release candidate becoming the final release?
[16:22] <mattywarr_> anyone have any idea why, after installing phpmyadmin, i visit http://localhost/phpmyadmin it tells me that the directory could not be found?
[16:22] <Pici> primski: no, sudo passwd changes the root password.
[16:22] <sipior> primski: no, sudo passwd will change the root password
[16:22] <primski> or now, im wrong, srorry
[16:22] <LSG> name10135: I'd offer to help you but, honestly, there has to be a thousand people here who know how to do it much better than me
[16:22] <primski> yea, i realized nd now, sorry
[16:22] <Exteris> mattywarr_, you need to restart apache2
[16:23] <LSG> name10135 I can't remember the last time i did a text-mode install
[16:23] <msx> hardy has latest packages of wine :)
[16:23] <Dysk> Anyway, go ahead and set a root password if you want to, it's just not the ubuntu way
[16:23] <HZ> anyhow to my password still the old one, and if so where to find place that supports root password ?
[16:23] <primski> besides, im having way too much problems with my keyb atm to be helpfull here :P
[16:23] <mattywarr_> i've rebooted the machine fully since install - wouldn;t that have done it?
[16:23] <name10135> LSG: 'sall good.   (To anyone else:) Any takers for this charity case?
[16:23] <rushanuk> hello everyone
[16:23] <sipior> HZ: what exactly were you trying to do?
[16:23] <Dysk> HZ, just set a password for root and you'll be able to log in as root.  It's just that you shouldn't have any reason to need root.
[16:23] <spiniker> hello
[16:23] <plurt> jamie: wasn't there an easier way to solve it other than Ndiswrapper?
[16:24] <spiniker> again to all
[16:24] <HZ> sipior changing my root pw
[16:24] <plurt> I mean .. what eventually made you choose that option?
[16:24] <pir> www.ubuntu.com = low?
[16:24] <bipolar> HZ: run 'sudo passwd' and it will change the password for root.
[16:24] <sipior> HZ: and how did you test that it was set?
[16:24] <pir> slow*
[16:24] <Dysk> HZ, We know that, but to what end
[16:24] <LSG> pir: Very
[16:24] <pir> LSG : ok
[16:25] <rushanuk> could some please help me to create another primary group via terminal, i have accidently deleted the directory of my main user now i can't really do much
[16:25] <HZ> I donno but I've tried that command and nothing done
[16:25] <spiniker> just a thought,will i get malware or spyware or anything harmfull inside my system if i use stumble upon on my ubuntu machine?
[16:25] <sipior> HZ: tried which command? what the precise syntax you used?
[16:25] <DRebellion> spiniker, nope
[16:25] <HZ> sipior sudo passwd
[16:25] <msx> is it possible to install other window manager on ubuntu?
[16:26] <jeffimperial> Hey.. Got a DSL related question in Ubuntu. Safe to ask here?
[16:26] <bipolar> msx: of course
[16:26] <sipior> HZ: yeah, but how did you test that the root password was set? what command did you want to run?
[16:26] <name10135> To All: Need help through a first-time text-based install of 7.10.
[16:26] <www2> I heft today install ubuntu 8.04 AMD64 and after install a text 2 speechs under wine. i play some music and read some text in that progam but i get some error that the program can not accest alsa
[16:26] <Pici> www2: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:26] <primski> anyone has Asus EEE && Hardy on ?
[16:26] <Pici> !hardy
[16:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:27] <HZ> sipior when installing any app it asks for my pw so I give it the old one as it doesn't accept the new
[16:28] <msx> will gusty run on old celeron coppermine with 733 mhz ram?
[16:28] <sipior> HZ: sure, it's asking for *your* password (via sudo/gksudo) not the root password. why is that a problem?
[16:28] <jamie> plurt, did u get my response
[16:30]  * delcoyote hi
[16:31] <name10135> Still looking for help with a text-based dual-boot install for a first time linux user.
[16:31] <alastor666> plop all :)
[16:31] <skarface> name10135: what's the problem?\
[16:31] <ICQnumber> ! hello | delcoyote
[16:31] <ubotu> delcoyote: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[16:32] <woj> haj
[16:33] <HZ> what is the realplayer package to install using teminal
[16:33] <Exteris> name10135, have you already installed ubuntu?
[16:33] <name10135> skarface: Unsure of how to setup partition settings in the installer without destroying windows partition (I already have 20GB set aside ext3 for linux)
[16:33] <ubuntuisloved> anyone know of a way to change bit permissions to a windows directory mounted ?
[16:33] <msx> will gusty run on old celeron coppermine with 733 mhz and 128mb ram?
[16:33] <Exteris> msx, upgrade the ram, then it will
[16:34] <subopt> I can't remember which version of Ubuntu i installed. Is there a file in /etc that tells me?
[16:34] <Exteris> name10135, 20gb ext3 and 1gb swap, and ubuntu will fix it
[16:34] <Pici> subopt: lsb_release -a
[16:34] <dav7> [A[A
[16:34] <subopt> Pici: thanks
[16:34] <dav7> msx: Ubuntu requires a minimum of 512MB RAM.
[16:34] <dav7> msx: Arch Linux however will run on a minimum of 32MB RAM.
[16:34] <tevleV> i run it on 256 ok
[16:34] <msx> what about older versions?
[16:34] <Snurre86> Is it posible by a newbee to install ubuntu on fakeraid (Radi0) ?
[16:35] <jamie> for 128 ram use xubuntu
[16:35] <Chousuke> dav7: Ubuntu will run just fine on a low-memory machine.
[16:35] <dav7> Chousuke: oh ok
[16:35] <dav7> Chousuke: will X work on 32MB? :P
[16:35] <Chousuke> dav7: You'll find that you *want* more RAM when you add features though :P
[16:36] <msx> can I create swap on xubuntu?
[16:36] <dav7> Arch does X on 32MB file, I have a PC here.
[16:36] <name10135> skarface / Exteris: Again, need to hold my hand here, I'm intimately familiar w/ Win installer, but clueless in Linux.  @ the Partition Disks screen in installer, Guided options, or manual options?
[16:36] <dav7> haha
[16:36] <dav7> msx: of course
[16:36] <Chousuke> dav7: Probably.
[16:36] <sipior> my first X install ran in 16MB. badly.
[16:36] <Chousuke> msx: sure
[16:36] <dav7> Chousuke: wow, hah
[16:36] <dav7> sipior: hah :D
[16:36] <jamie> i have x on 32 with DSL
[16:36] <dav7> nice
[16:36] <msx> and if I use text installer?
[16:37] <Exteris> name10135, manual
[16:37] <Chousuke> msx: it's always possible. Though it requires using the command line if you do it after installation
[16:37] <Chousuke> but you can always create a swap file and use that :)
[16:37] <Exteris> name10135, how much ram do you have in that pc?
[16:37] <name10135> Exteris: Done, #2 is the target partition, what settings?
[16:37] <Exteris> name10135, you also need to make swap
[16:38] <Exteris> mount point /
[16:38] <name10135> Exteris: 2GB DD2
[16:38] <Exteris> name10135, make a partition of 1gb, and type 'swap'
[16:38] <Exteris> name10135, and the root partition will be the rest, type 'ext3' mount point '/'
[16:38] <Chousuke> something like sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/myswapfile bs=1M count=512; sudo mkswap /var/myswapfile; sudo swapon /var/myswapfile
[16:39] <Chousuke> creates a 0.5GB swap file and enables it
[16:39] <Exteris> name10135, and you can give the other partition a mount point too, ubuntu will mount it there automatically then
[16:39] <jamie> when is ubuntu gonna do an Enlightenment windowing system
[16:39] <hscade> I've a problem my second HDD (Primary Slave) could not be mounted after a reinstallation of Ubuntu. I tried mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt -o force but it after a second it will be unmounted again?
[16:39] <Chousuke> jamie: it's in the repos probably.
[16:39] <Chousuke> jamie: just install it. :)
[16:39] <msx> why has 8.04 longer support than 8.10?
[16:39] <Chousuke> msx: it's an LTS
[16:39] <hwilde> jamie, I use enlightenment
[16:40] <Chousuke> msx: those are "special" releases made every two years that get longer support.
[16:40] <hwilde> msx, 8.10 will have less-stable upgrades and stuff.  8.04 will have LongTermsupport
[16:40] <Pici> !kts | msx
[16:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:40] <Pici> !lts | msx
[16:40] <ubotu> msx: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[16:40] <name10135> Exteris: standby
[16:40] <msx> and is the release date of 9 announced?
[16:40] <Chousuke> msx: 8.10 comes first, don't be so hasty ;)
[16:40] <Pici> msx: The versions are like this: 2008 April (4th month) = 8.04
[16:41] <hscade> 3 days to go ! :/
[16:41] <Pici> msx: And we do releases every six months.
[16:41] <LSG> www.ubuntu.com is normal again!
[16:41] <msx> I just want to know if it would make sense to upgrade later to 8.10 if its support will finish earlier
[16:42] <LSG> msx: That's up to you
[16:42] <KOJV> What's the equivalent to ipconfig?
[16:42] <Pici> LSG: gah, I was just typing that.
[16:42] <Pici> KOJV: ifconfig
[16:42] <Chousuke> msx: by the time its support ends it several new ubuntu releases will have been made
[16:42] <LSG> Pici: Hah! I won!
[16:42] <KOJV> Thanks Pici.
[16:42] <lonran> how can i check compilation deps for a source pkg?
[16:42] <mavsman4457> Hi I'm having difficulties with my screen resolution
[16:42] <Chousuke> When hardy's support ends for the desktop we'll already have 11.04 or something
[16:42] <msx> what will be the name of 9? :)
[16:43] <mavsman4457> the only option is 640x480
[16:43] <Pici> msx: Dont know yet.
[16:43] <name10135> Exteris: Okay, #1 Win partition, #3 swap (ext3 - / ), #2 (20GB for UbuntU)   Now, "Finish partitioning and write to disk?
[16:43] <Pici> !ibex | msx we know 8.10 though
[16:43] <ubotu> msx we know 8.10 though: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[16:43] <Exteris> name10135, no
[16:43] <Pici> lonran: apt-cache showsrc somepackage
[16:43] <hscade> mavsman4457, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:44] <msx> it could be difficult to find an animal which starts with j :)
[16:44] <mavsman4457> hscade: and then do i have to reboot?
[16:44] <Exteris> name10135, you need #1 Win #3 swap (filesystem is swap) #2 20GB for ubuntu  on /
[16:44] <name10135> Exteris: Stand by
[16:44] <Pici> !codenames | msx
[16:44] <ubotu> msx: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[16:44] <hscade> mavsman4457, not realy i think
[16:44] <mavsman4457> hscade, because I did that but didn't reboot and I haven't gotten any other extra options
[16:45] <name10135> Exteris: / or /(something else?)
[16:45] <name10135> Exteris: On ubuntu part?
[16:45] <remote> Howdy
[16:45] <VoidedCheck> mavsman, restartx?
[16:46] <VoidedCheck> ctrl alt bkspace
[16:46] <mavsman4457> hscade, I have a kind of graphics card that won't support hd output, and Im on an hdtv, but when it was connected to my 19" monitor it worked fine with 1260x1048 or whatever it is
[16:46] <lonran> thnks Pici!
[16:46] <Exteris> name10135, / on ubuntu part (that's root)
[16:46] <Exteris> !root | name10135
[16:46] <ubotu> name10135: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:46] <mavsman4457> Voidedcheck, just hit control alt backspace while the desktop is up?
[16:46] <Exteris> name10135, sorry
[16:46] <remote> I'm in the process of installing Ubuntu but cannot see my LVM, it was created using a dm-crypt LUKS filesystem, could someoen push me around ?
[16:46] <mavsman4457> Voidedbackspace, or do I have to do it in a termianl or something
[16:47] <VoidedCheck> yeah whenever I do any video config it usually works after a ctrl alt bcspace
[16:47] <hscade> mavsman4457, mh why would you use hdtv O_O
[16:47] <msx> is it possible to give Ideas for names?
[16:47] <VoidedCheck> nah on desktop, it'll kick you to login window again
[16:47] <mavsman4457> hscade, cause that's the only monito that is available
[16:47] <Pici> msx: Right on that wiki page
[16:47] <mavsman4457> hscade, and I think I want to play games on it
[16:48] <name10135> Exteris: sallgood.  ok, 1=win, 2=swap, 3=ubuntu.  "Finish part & write changes" ?
[16:48] <fallleaf> 显示中文？
[16:48] <jeffimperial> I'm getting VERY bad Internet speeds.. do u think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63923/ has something to do with it?
[16:48] <KOJV> How to access a Windows network share?
[16:48] <hscade> mavsman4457, google would help ?
[16:48] <Exteris> name10135, swap has fs swap? if so, you can proceed :p
[16:48] <greenplaid> im having trouble since upgrading to 7.10 with my dual monitors and ati radeon x550 drivers.. im sure the two are related, where can i start?
[16:48] <DRebellion> KOJV, places -> network
[16:49] <Pici> !zh | fallleaf
[16:49] <ubotu> fallleaf: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:49] <mavsman4457> hscade, didn't find much, I figured this would be a better place for help
[16:49] <drivetrax> look man, I booted up this morning.. and the username changed...
[16:49] <hscade> mavsman4457, mh can't help u with hdtv :/
[16:49] <KOJV> DRebellion, where is places at?
[16:49] <drivetrax> which is not good
[16:50] <DRebellion> KOJV, are you using ubuntu-desktop?
[16:50] <KOJV> DRebellion, I think so, Xubuntu.
[16:50] <drivetrax> i do not know what i did to change the user name
[16:50] <name10135> Exteris: #2 - Use as: swap area, bootable flag - on/off ?  Correct?
[16:50] <mavsman4457> hscade, I don't even need it to fit my hdtv I just want it to be any resolution higher than 640x480 because that is just unbearable
[16:50] <drivetrax> but, I did try to change the name@hostname
[16:50] <Pici> drivetrax: What did your username change in? Your login?
[16:51] <Exteris> name10135, off, but #3 has to have bootable on
[16:51] <hscade> mavsman4457, wait i've an idea!
[16:51] <Pici> drivetrax: you need to be more specific.
[16:51] <volubilis> helleo
[16:51] <drivetrax> pici - yes in the login
[16:51] <in4mer> hi
[16:51] <volubilis> hello
[16:51] <DRebellion> KOJV, help for xubuntu in #xubuntu
[16:51] <Pici> drivetrax: So, type in whatever your normal login is.
[16:51] <name10135> Exteris: Allright, all is done.  Finish part.....?
[16:52] <Exteris> yes
[16:52] <drivetrax> pici -- for example... my login is : name then password.  Well, the name changed.. after I changed the bash input to .. name@something
[16:52] <name10135> Exteris: Formatting.....
[16:52] <LSG> name10135: Cross your fingers!
[16:53] <drivetrax> pici - how do I change the hostname.. I used unetbootin, and it asks for a hostname.. so I put in a fake one
[16:53] <remote> could someone help me with an LVM QUESTION please?
[16:53] <Pici> !hostname | drivetrax
[16:53] <ubotu> drivetrax: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[16:53] <leileilol> is there a channel where I can communicate with packagemaintainers?
[16:53] <name10135> Exteris: "Installing the base system"
[16:53] <DRebellion> leileilol, #ubuntu-motu
[16:53] <Exteris> name10135, well that's working :P
[16:53] <drivetrax> system>admin>networking>general tab.. let me see
[16:54] <leileilol> thanks
[16:54] <name10135> Exteris: Sweet.  Any other tricky parts from here on out?
[16:54] <grzechot> hello
[16:54] <hscade> mavsman4457, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf  after adding your needed attributes you should restart xserver
[16:54] <grzechot> have somebody counter strike at ubuntu?
[16:54] <Exteris> name10135, no, not really, you just need to get used to it
[16:55] <drivetrax> this will prevent me from launching future applications, so I will have to login again.......?
[16:55] <name10135> Exteris: "Unable to install the selected kernel"
[16:55] <mavsman4457> hscade, thank you, I'm not on my ubuntu box right now because 640x480 is unbearable but I will try that once I get back onto it
[16:55] <hscade> mh smartctl says  my secondary hdd is available
[16:55] <name10135> Exteris: 'linux-generic'
[16:55] <hscade> mavsman4457, good luck
[16:55] <drivetrax> Pici:  I do not know the hostname of this machine on the ATT/bellsouth network the DSL is plugged into.
[16:56] <Exteris> name10135, huh? wtf can you post a screenshot?
[16:56] <jeffimperial> I'm getting VERY bad Internet speeds.. do u think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63923/ has something to do with it?
[16:56] <Exteris> jeffimperial, yeah i think it does
[16:56] <Exteris> no idea how to fix it though
[16:56] <Pici> drivetrax: For the most part, desktop computers' hostnames are inconsequential
[16:57] <drivetrax> pci -- okay, I mean.. I am online
[16:57] <name10135> Not sure how to do that from a lappy w/o networking support at this time.  "Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details."
[16:57] <drivetrax> ergh.. Got to work.. but, I am studying all the commands I can find on Linux.
[16:58] <drivetrax> << former XP user
[16:58] <Exteris> name10135, press ctrl-alt-f4, and when you're done ctrl-alt-f7
[16:58] <drivetrax> Only exposed to bash, with egg, and cygwin
[16:59] <name10135> Exteris: ok, in text screen
[16:59] <drivetrax> with a new OS, I'm very happy!
[16:59] <DRebellion> drivetrax, you will find the 'man' command useful.
[16:59] <corporal_clegg> hello, can I use a mac keyboard on a non mac pc with ubuntu?
[16:59] <pjoul> drivetrax: http://fosswire.com/2007/08/02/unixlinux-command-cheat-sheet/ can be useful for you
[16:59] <remote> Hi.
[16:59] <corporal_clegg> how about the mac mouse?
[16:59] <drivetrax> yeah man -k whatever
[16:59] <wyleyrabbit> can Ubuntu use ICC profiles?
[16:59] <remote> Is there someone who knows about /dev/mapper devices?
[16:59] <drivetrax> pjoul: thank ya
[16:59] <pjoul> drivetrax: no problemo
[16:59] <DRebellion> drivetrax, also << man [command] >>
[17:00] <name10135> Exteris: Several "Failed to fetch cdrom" msgs
[17:00] <remote> I would be very grateful for being able to get an answer on a question I have about LVM devices.
[17:00] <remote> Please.
[17:00] <jeffimperial> Exteris: got any idea how to fix it?
[17:00] <Exteris> name10135, perhaps your cddrive isn't good anymore
[17:00] <VoidedCheck> !question
[17:00] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:00] <drivetrax> pjoul:  Saved..
[17:00] <bipolar> Does anyone know of any tools for cloning/imaging an ubuntu installation? Ubuntu's use of UUID's seems to have made the job more difficult.
[17:00] <drivetrax> voidedcheck is an EFT
[17:00] <remote> It's about mounting the LUKS partitions created in an LVM, usually found in /dev/mapper/workstationName-home, /dev/mapper/workstationName-opt,
[17:01] <drivetrax> ehehe..
[17:01] <green> i'm constantly losing my window borders under gusty + compiz .. anyone know a fix to this?
[17:01] <remote> I already asked but got no answers twice
[17:01] <Exteris> jeff, i dunno from this thing here :(
[17:01] <remote> this channel is confusing
[17:01] <name10135> Exteris: Don't tell me that, this thing is only weeks old.
[17:01] <VoidedCheck> ah my bad
[17:01] <green> gutsy, rather
[17:01] <VoidedCheck> sorry
[17:01] <Exteris> name10135, or your cd is botched
[17:01] <remote> I'm attempting to mount my LUKS partitions on a live Ubuntu cd-rom but cannot see my LVM (eg: /dev/mapper/ does not contain what I'm looking for), it was created using a dm-crypt LUKS with debian-installer, could someoen push me around ?
[17:01] <Exteris> have you done a cd check yet?
[17:01] <name10135> Exteris: Try another burn, as slow as freaking possible?
[17:01] <jeffimperial> Exteris: "have you done a cd check yet?" for me?
[17:01] <Exteris> remote, uncrypt
[17:02] <Exteris> jeffimperial, lol sure
[17:02] <remote> Exteris: NICE. THANKS.
[17:02] <Exteris> remote, sorry :|
[17:02] <Exteris> jeffimperial, have you done a cd check yet?
[17:02] <VoidedCheck> drivetrax, did you just call me a bay newt?
[17:02] <VoidedCheck> *baby
[17:02] <remote> Exteris: How would you de-crypt a device if you don't see it?
[17:02] <Exteris> jeffimperial, </kidding>
[17:02] <green> i don't know if it is emerald crashing or what
[17:02] <cube> 3 days to go
[17:02] <green> but my window borders just disappear
[17:03] <Exteris> remote, isn't it in /dev/disk?
[17:03] <jeffimperial> Exteris: yeah..like a shitty connection isn't enough of a problem...
[17:03] <Pici> green: you may want to try asking in #compiz-fusion
[17:03] <Pici> !language | jeffimperial
[17:03] <ubotu> jeffimperial: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:03] <Exteris> can't you go back to debian and decrypt first?
[17:03] <remote> Exteris: that's the hard drive
[17:03] <jeffimperial> Sorry guys...
[17:03] <dav7> D-lined?
[17:03] <dav7> wow
[17:03] <remote> Exteris: yes
[17:04] <remote> that's not what i want to do however
[17:04] <remote> Exteris: no worries
[17:04] <drivetrax> bbl.. thanks for the assist..
[17:04] <Exteris> jeffimperial, check and post some more logs
[17:04] <Exteris> jeffimperial, and disable ipv6
[17:04] <Exteris> and i'm brb
[17:04] <Exteris> food :P
[17:04] <dav7> :P
[17:04] <wild_oscar> greetings!
[17:04] <dav7> !!!!!!!
[17:04] <name10135> Exteris: New problem, windows no longer boots.
[17:05] <trento> i'm having a dns issue ... I can resolve all addresses in mozilla but cannot resolve any local address
[17:05] <jeffimperial> Exteris: thanks man.. i'll try that
[17:05] <wild_oscar> I have a problem in my 7.10 - my xorg randomly just restarts
[17:05] <VoidedCheck> that's not a problem, it's a feature!  :D
[17:05] <remote> no it isn't
[17:05] <dav7> wild_oscar: it may be segfaulting
[17:05] <Exteris> name10135, oh you're fucked then
[17:05] <Pici> !language | Exteris
[17:05] <ubotu> Exteris: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:05] <dav7> !languag | Exteris
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <wild_oscar> dav7: how can I backtrace it?
[17:05] <Exteris> name10135, reboot from the livecd
[17:05] <dav7> >.>
[17:05] <dav7> wild_oscar: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:05] <dav7> wild_oscar: (probably)
[17:05] <Exteris> dav7 and Pici sorry if i hurt your tender souls
[17:06] <wild_oscar> dav7: I looked at it, but can't seem to find any error
[17:06] <dav7> Exteris: heh, #ubuntu tries to keep to a standard... we're just selflessly imposing it on everyone :P
[17:06] <dav7> wild_oscar: :/
[17:06] <name10135> Exteris: I don't think that would work considering it could boot from live anyways due to graphics card drivers
[17:06] <name10135> Exteris:  *couldn't
[17:07] <trento> can someone help me with a dns issue?
[17:07] <Exteris> name10135, i'll help you in a while, okay? 25 mins i'm back, and i'll dedicate my attention to your problem, because i feel like i've screwed you
[17:07] <Exteris> ciao
[17:07] <wild_oscar> dav7: well, I have something at .old
[17:08] <nibsa1242b> trento: what is your issue?
[17:08] <dav7> wild_oscar: ah, that's perfect
[17:09] <trento> nlbs: I can resolve all external IP addresses via my DNS servers .. but they won't return any local addresses
[17:09] <wild_oscar> dav7: http://pastebin.com/d3c3fa108
[17:09] <wild_oscar> can you make anything of it?
[17:09] <name10135> Exteris: Appreciate it
[17:09] <trento> nlbs: ie google.com will resolve ... but jabber.<mydomain>.local won't
[17:10] <peter___> Hello, I've got a general question...the installation of Xorg made a symlink /usr/bin/X11 to /usr/X11R6/bin
[17:10] <dav7> wild_oscar: wow, all the errors are IN X itself... but FontFileCompleteXLFD often sets my copy of X up the bomb... so it may be your graphics card.
[17:10] <peter___> in my PATH var /usr/bin excists
[17:10] <nibsa1242b> trento: sorry, I'm not sure I can help you with that... hope someone can
[17:10] <peter___> how come bash can't find it?
[17:11] <dav7> wild_oscar: POSSIBLY. Disable compiz, xcompmgr, everything else, switch off stuff like AIGLX and stuff, and see how that goes.
[17:11] <trento> nlbs: more info .. i added "search <mydomain>.local" to my network ... now i can resolve servername but not servername.<mydomain>.local
[17:11] <Orbixx> Anyone know why Firestarter might be freezing and stopping Ubuntu from booting? I have to intervene to get the PC to boot.
[17:11] <trento> nlbs: thanks anyway ... hope someone can
[17:11] <hscade> Is there a way to force a umount of complete HDD's?
[17:12] <unop> peter___, what are you _actually_ trying to do?
[17:12] <wangluen> hellp
[17:13] <unop> hscade, umount -f -a   # but the root filesystem might not be unmounted if it is in use
[17:13] <Pici> !ask | wangluen
[17:13] <ubotu> wangluen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:13] <wild_oscar> dav7: that would leave ubuntu pretty stripped down
[17:13] <dav7> wild_oscar: true... I know...
[17:13] <dav7> wild_oscar: X randomly crashes here, and it started when I enabled xcompmgr, sooo... :/
[17:14] <wild_oscar> I have no idea when this started, but it was only recently
[17:14] <Moppa> i'm on a quite fresh installation of ubuntu 7.10 and it has compiz enabled by default. When i have the normal visual effects enabled some of my applications can be seen through the screensaver and other apps. is there anything to do about it? if i turn it of it works as it should, but i wan't some effects enabled.
[17:14] <hscade> unop, thanks but terminal says "unknown command unmount"
[17:14] <hscade> O_O
[17:15] <Pici> hscade: its umount, not unmount
[17:15] <Moppa> hscade umount :)
[17:15] <DRebellion> hscade, its 'umount;
[17:15] <unop> hscade, umount not unmount
[17:15] <h00k> hsc umount
[17:15] <hscade> kk thanks :<
[17:15] <DRebellion> ;)
[17:16] <Sid> I am trying to ssh into my linux box, but i get connection refused but I have port 22 open and its on my network, I tried both my IP and my LAN ip and still nodda, I tried resetting my sshd and still doesn't work.
[17:17] <unop> Sid, firewall?
[17:17] <Sid> i can ping it just fine
[17:17] <kaburk> #plagger
[17:17] <hwilde> when I do an lsmod, I see modules wlan, wlan_scan_status, wlan_wep,    how do I find what packages provide these modules?
[17:17] <Sid> i dont know if my linux box has a firewall or not i dont remember
[17:18] <hscade> unop, mh umount says hdb isn't mounted but mount says it is in use or busy
[17:18] <unop> Sid, check,  sudo iptables -L
[17:18] <jarle_> I have added a disk to a RAID 5 array, and the array is now reshaping, is it OK to reboot the machine and have the array continue reshaping?
[17:18] <sagredo> YO!
[17:18] <Sid> k brb
[17:18] <sagredo> How do I disable to fadeout thing in Firefox?
[17:18] <Moppa> i'm on a quite fresh installation of ubuntu 7.10 and it has compiz enabled by default. When i have the normal visual effects enabled some of my applications can be seen through the screensaver and other apps. is there anything to do about it? if i turn it of it works as it should, but i wan't some effects enabled.
[17:18] <jarle_> or would that be kind of dangerous?
[17:19] <unop> hscade, mount complains when you try to mount hdb?
[17:19] <unop> hscade, check if it is already mounted. simpy type  mount
[17:20] <wild_oscar> dav7: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/165093
[17:20]  * dav7 clix
[17:21] <wild_oscar> exact same crash, only seem to have AWN and Firefox in common
[17:22] <hscade> unop, mount says it is busy
[17:22] <hscade> but
[17:22] <dav7> wild_oscar: ahhh, I see.
[17:22] <mark_s> hi all, I am a teacher an I am looking for an easy to use program to control the pcs from the kids through my pc. So I want to be able to see their desktop and maybe transfer my desktop to their monitor. Do you know a good and "easy" to use programm?
[17:22] <dav7> wow, crazy nick quit.. heh
[17:23] <dav7> mark_s: VNC
[17:23] <unop> mark_s, i think edubuntu and ltsp were created for just that
[17:23] <hscade> unop, after a reboot i can't get access to hdb1
[17:23] <dav7> mark_s: you can ssh into their PCs and start VNC remotely, even make the VNC window popup on their box from your own machine (as with any program)
[17:23] <danage> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7358483.stm
[17:23] <Dominus_> hello
[17:24] <spiniker> hello again
[17:24] <zvacet> Dominus_ : !ask
[17:24] <mark_s> dav7: I will try it also ltsp from @unop
[17:24] <unop> hscade, does /etc/fstab have an entry for /dev/hdb ?
[17:24] <ahmed> hiii all
[17:25] <dav7> mark_s: ah ok
[17:25] <cwebber> does unbuntu server have a default install of postfix or sendmail by default to do basic mail on the host or does that need to be installed and configured
[17:25] <hscade> unop, not realy
[17:25] <zvacet> ahmed :how we can help you ?
[17:26] <unop> hscade, you didnt tell me if hdb was mounted or not ..   what does 'mount' say?
[17:26] <ahmed> i neeeed download msn messenger with voice
[17:26] <Red_Tide> could anyone reccomend a good wireless card thats compatible with linux
[17:26] <unop> cwebber, do you want to send or recieve mail?
[17:26] <Orbixx> Anyone know why Firestarter might be freezing and stopping Ubuntu from booting? I have to intervene to get the PC to boot.
[17:27] <ahmed> zvacet : gjhgk
[17:27] <ahmed> ?
[17:27] <ahmed> no any one help me
[17:27] <hscade> unop, http://nopaste.php-quake.net/26130
[17:27] <sipior> Orbixx: freeze permanently, or is there simply a long timeout?
[17:27] <mark_s> unop: ltsp looks like a  Terminal Server Project. but we use ubuntu and I want to install a software which provides the functionalaty
[17:27] <cwebber> unop: i am used to there being a instance of sendmail on solaris that i smarthost to the relay on campus... i am trying to send email from php
[17:27] <ahmed> i neeeeeeed help
[17:27] <Orbixx> sipior: I'm not sure - maybe I haven't waited long enough.
[17:28] <Pici> !patience | ahmed
[17:28] <ubotu> ahmed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:28] <Orbixx> sipior: Assume it's permanently before I restart to find out.
[17:28] <sipior> Orbixx: and i assume no error messages crop up during the boot?
[17:28] <wild_oscar> ahmed: try amsn
[17:28] <zvacet> ahmed ; I don´t know if Pidgin support that
[17:28] <unop> cwebber, i think you mean MTA -- ubuntu has exim/exim4  which provides that
[17:28] <corporal_clegg> does anyone know if the apple keyboard and the apple mighty mouse work with ubuntu (both wireless)?
[17:28] <Orbixx> sipior: Nothing major.
[17:29] <Orbixx> sipior: I use loud boot to see all messages, and they're only really notifications.
[17:29] <hscade> unop, http://nopaste.php-quake.net/26131 fstab
[17:29] <ahmed> how i can send private massage to ?
[17:30]  * name10135 gets a cookie
[17:30] <Pici> !register | ahmed
[17:30] <ubotu> ahmed: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[17:30] <noodlesgc> ahmed /msg nick
[17:30] <sven> hey everyone
[17:30] <Red_Tide> ahmed I suspect pidgin or amsn would perform such functions ut I don't really know how to do it look at the ubuntu wiki
[17:30] <unop> hscade,  UUID=8C0C7C920C7C78D2 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=de_DE.UTF-8 0 1  # sounds to me like hdb1 is being mounted already, is that not what you want?
[17:30] <gavin__> I cant print from evince but an print from other programs. using gutsy gibbon
[17:30] <unop> mark_s, so, is LTSP an option or not?
[17:31] <hscade> unop, yes but there are no files on it  /media/hdb1 after the reinstallation of ubuntu
[17:32] <unop> hscade, is it supposed to have any files in it?
[17:33] <sven> Can anyone help me set up my dual screen?
[17:33] <hscade> unop, yes  and should hdb1 not displayed in Computer window?
[17:33] <sparr_> no 8.04 on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download ?
[17:34] <Lloydie-t> I think I  have a problem getting dnsmasq to work correctly. If I try and ping anywhere the name can not be resolved. Any Ideas?
[17:34] <sipior> sparr_: not thursday yet
[17:34] <unop> hscade, errm, i don't use gnome but i don't presume it should be
[17:34] <sparr_> aha
[17:35] <unop> hscade, are you sure you don't have this volume/partition confused for another, hdb5 perhaps?
[17:35] <sparr_> news item on ubuntu.com says "released".  then it explains "upcoming availability"...  that's very poor wording
[17:35]  * sipior shrugs
[17:35] <olegkorneit> so im on windows xp atm and its screwing up on me.... doesnt load yahoo.com or google.com
[17:35] <hscade> unop, i'm confused
[17:35] <olegkorneit> other sites load... any ideas wtf is going on.... i thinking of just rebooting
[17:36] <olegkorneit> to ubuntu
[17:36] <unop> hscade, did you just install ubuntu?
[17:36] <Lloydie-t> and if I runf dnsmasq I get 'dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for 127.0.0.1: Address already in use'
[17:36] <sipior> olegkorneit: well, obviously we're going to tell you to boot to ubuntu ;-)
[17:36] <hscade> unop, yes thats why i'm confused
[17:36] <sipior> Lloydie-t: see if bind is running
[17:36] <olegkorneit> lol.. k then. couple questions then
[17:37] <hscade> unop, ubuntu is on hda and not on
[17:37] <hscade> hdb
[17:37] <Lloydie-t> I made sure bind was uninstalled but I am running mydns
[17:37] <unop> hscade, what does this command return?    find /media/hdb1 -iname ".*" -o -iname "*"
[17:38] <Lloydie-t> Mydsn.conf = no-listen = 127.0.0.1
[17:38] <sven> Can someone help me setup dual screens?
[17:38] <unop> hscade, no need to paste, just let me know if it returns anything
[17:38] <unop> !twinview | sven
[17:38] <ubotu> sven: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[17:38] <sipior> Lloydie-t: if you turn off mydns, does it work?
[17:38] <olegkorneit> will my .rtf files load? will internet auto-work (running on cable/LAN)? Any built-in browser? can I install all my current programs (Trillian, photoshop, microsoft office, winamp, etc)?
[17:39] <arvind_khadri> !cube > arvind_khadri
[17:39] <hscade> unop, /media/hdb1
[17:39] <hscade>  test.txt is the file i've created to test the access this partition
[17:39] <sven> ubotu: the problem is, though, that I can't get the second output to work
[17:39] <unop> hscade, do you dual boot with windows?
[17:39] <sipior> olegkorneit: yes. yes. Firefox. Through wine, yes (but it may not work very well).
[17:40] <hscade> unop, no i'm not using windows
[17:40] <sipior> olegkorneit: you may want to explore equivalent applications here, to avoid the horror of running wine
[17:40] <sipior> olegkorneit: for example, pidgin is a nice replacement for trillian
[17:40] <prashant____> hello
[17:40] <blackmamba> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:40] <blackmamba> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:40] <blackmamba>    <<<what is this suppose to mean ?!
[17:41] <unop> hscade, very strange indeed, are you sure you didn;t format this volume when installing ubuntu?  not that it's very likely, but i have to ask
[17:41] <olegkorneit> is there like a kickass site with a bunch of ubuntu runnable programs
[17:41] <unop> !adeptcrash | blackmamba
[17:41] <ubotu> blackmamba: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:41] <sipior> blackmamba: either another process is trying to install packages, or you are not running it with root permissions. try sudo.
[17:41] <zvacet> blackmamba : do you have synaptic open and update manager at the same time
[17:42] <hscade> unop, i'm sure ! i've created a ext3 partition for ubuntu (size of 140gb) and a swap on hda1
[17:42] <sipior> olegkorneit: once you install ubuntu, you can enable a large number of repositories, with literally thousands of programs available.
[17:42] <olegkorneit> mmk awesome... will be back once im done backing up all my files.
[17:42] <unop> hscade, right, let's have a look at the output of.   sudo fdisk -l
[17:42] <prashant____> i have tried this technique of backing up data . sudo dd if=/dev/sdb3 gzip > ......gz situation is the disk has only 5.6 GB installed content .. but the even the zip image which toke an hour to make is 11 GB .. does any one know a better way than this of backing up things :( please help :)
[17:43] <Lloydie-t> I can not see mydns running as a process. seems that there is something wrong with it
[17:43] <sipior> Lloydie-t: try running "sudo netstat -antp", and see if anything is listening on port 53
[17:43] <hscade> unop, http://nopaste.php-quake.net/26133
[17:44] <vova_kubba> hi all ;0
[17:44] <vova_kubba> ;)
[17:44] <prashant____> i have tried this technique of backing up data . sudo dd if=/dev/sdb3 gzip > ......gz situation is the disk has only 5.6 GB installed content .. but even the zip image which toke an hour to make is 11 GB .. does any one know a better way than this of backing up things :( please help :)
[17:44] <vova_kubba> please help me with my problem
[17:44] <sipior> prashant____: hmm...dd will work, but is terribly slow, as you found out. try partimage if you want to copy whole partitions
[17:44] <Lloydie-t> netstat tapn shows dnsmasq running on 0.0.0.0:53
[17:44] <unop> prashant____, please don't repeat , if no one knows your answer, no one will answer
[17:44] <Myrtti> !ask | vova_kubba
[17:44] <ubotu> vova_kubba: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:45] <vova_kubba> who understand russia can read it there :) http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=25414.0
[17:45] <amenado> prashant____->  tar cf - /dir | 7z a -si dir.tar.7z          /dir is the mount point of your /dev/sdb3
[17:45] <prashant____> unop sorry i used bad english b4
[17:45] <zvacet> vova_kubba : what with ones who doesn´t
[17:45] <sipior> Lloydie-t: sounds like dnsmasq isn't proxying very well. if you try resolving a name via dig, what does it say?
[17:46] <arvind_khadri> !ru | vova_kubba
[17:46] <ubotu> vova_kubba: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:46] <prashant____> amenado i cant understand what it will do :(
[17:46] <vova_kubba> yesterday i rune .avi file and after some time i understood that my sound is dead, now i can't listen anyone filesor videos
[17:46] <vova_kubba> i'm sorry beforehand if i have mistakes
[17:46] <vova_kubba> ;)
[17:46] <unop> hscade, all i can think of is there might be a problem with the ntfs-3g driver, try this,  sudo umount /dev/hdb1;  sudo mount -t /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1  # and try browing the drive again
[17:46] <prashant____> amenado can i compress the gz obtained using 7z
[17:47] <unop> hscade, ,err, sorry,  sudo umount /dev/hdb1;  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1  #
[17:47] <amenado> prashant____-> man 7z
[17:47] <Lloydie-t> Sorry never used dig. what answer would you expect
[17:47] <Lloydie-t> From dig
[17:47] <vova_kubba> and someone else, when my sound die my wifi die too
[17:47] <unop> prashant____, what was the exact dd command you used ?
[17:47] <sipior> Lloydie-t: dig google.com, for example, should return a filled-in answer section, and a NOERROR status
[17:48] <vova_kubba> i have alsa and i confogured settings in the alsamixer
[17:48] <prashant____> !clone
[17:48] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:48] <hscade> unop, output: hdb1 isn't mounted!
[17:48] <prashant____> !backup
[17:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:48] <unop> hscade, continue on, the second part of the command should have tried to mount it
[17:48] <Lloydie-t>  bbc.co.uk = '->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 31364'
[17:48] <vova_kubba> who can helps me?
[17:49] <whatsyournamesS> I can help you.
[17:49] <Lloydie-t> and ';; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0'
[17:49] <Armada> When I open a file with MPlayer through "Open With..." it converts the special characters in the path to their respective Unicode codes. But MPlayer needs the special chracters instead of the Unicode codes
[17:49] <sipior> Lloydie-t: interesting. looks like your dnsmasq isn't configured to allow people to query it :-)
[17:49] <vova_kubba> i aks people in this channel because in the #ubuntu-ru noone helped me:(
[17:49] <guillaume> I all! Here is a stupid question that may deserve a stupid answer!   If I install the RC version of ubuntu 8.04 in a few day when the final release is up do i need to install again?! Or if i keep using update upgrade it will be just like if i was on the final release ?!?
[17:49] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> hello, is anyone here?
[17:50] <unop> guillaume, just keep updated and you have the newest version
[17:50] <vova_kubba> Cheesasaurus_Rex: no, noone are there
[17:50] <hscade> unop, I LOVE YOU :D it works :D
[17:50] <zvacet> guillaume :just keep it updated and that is it
[17:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> thanks, vova_kubba
[17:50] <prashant____> unob : dd if=/dev/sdb3 | gzip > /media/sda1/sdb3.bin.gz (here sda1 is a different HDD with ntfs format i wanted to backup the data on Windows of a linux partition :) )
[17:50] <Myrtti> guillaume: you don't have to install it again
[17:50] <lisu> guillaume: it shouldn't be a problem
[17:50] <vova_kubba> Cheesasaurus_Rex: ;)
[17:50] <vova_kubba> whatsyournamesS: so... ;)
[17:50] <unop> hscade, :) but but? can you write to the volume? try creating a couple of files and directories?
[17:50] <prashant____> unob that was the command i executed
[17:50] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I'm having a problem with DVD playback, even after doing install-css.sh
[17:50] <hscade> unop, i googled and there was a description which write ntfs-3g
[17:50] <guillaume> Thanks for all those quick answer !!!!! I go ahead and install it right away !
[17:50] <olegkorneit> i have 7.04 cds, will they update to 8.04... or will i need to do some extra work?
[17:50] <vova_kubba> hey...
[17:51] <vova_kubba> who are listen me??:)
[17:51] <hjml> Anyone how can help with nfts problem ?
[17:51] <piedoggie> Any idea what has happened to open-vm-tools?
[17:51] <vova_kubba> olegkorneit: you can update
[17:51] <zvacet> olegkorneit : no you have to d oupgrade one step at the time Feisty>Gutsy>Hardy
[17:51] <hscade> unop, i can do everything like before the reinstall of ubuntu
[17:51] <piedoggie> it was supposed to be in 8.04
[17:52] <Lloydie-t> I go through the settings again
[17:52] <hscade> unop, ur now my god :D
[17:52] <Pici> !hardy
[17:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:52] <piedoggie> sorry, I forgot
[17:52] <hjml> and language...
[17:52] <vova_kubba> piedoggie: NEVER FORGET!! :)
[17:52] <unop> hscade, heh, but this might not last across a reboot, try it out before jumping for joy :)
[17:52] <hscade> unop, i can't explain how thankful i'm for ur help :D
[17:52] <prashant____> unop : dd if=/dev/sdb3 | gzip > /media/sda1/sdb3.bin.gz (here sda1 is a different HDD with ntfs format i wanted to backup the data on Windows of a linux partition :) )
[17:53] <richard> Anybody know's courier ?
[17:53] <unop> hscade, yw yw
[17:53] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> may anyone help me with my problem?
[17:53] <Mimi> !ask
[17:53] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:53] <vova_kubba> Cheesasaurus_Rex: may be...
[17:53] <hscade> unop, mh after reboot and it's unmounted i should do an fstab entry right?
[17:53] <vova_kubba> and please help me with my priblem
[17:54] <vova_kubba> problem*
[17:54] <hscade> unop, now i'm rebooting. Back in a minute
[17:54] <Pici> !ask | vova_kubba
[17:54] <ubotu> vova_kubba: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:54] <Mimi> !patience
[17:54] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:54] <unop> prashant____,  just a second
[17:54] <vova_kubba> Pici: i asked
[17:54] <richard> How can i start the courierpop3login demon as another user ?
[17:54] <sipior> Lloydie-t: another possibility: have you verified that your isp permits dns traffic out, that isn't directed towards their own dns servers?
[17:55] <Pici> vova_kubba: Then ask again, all on one line.
[17:55] <hjml> Anyone that can help with nfts problem ?
[17:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> right, I'm trying to play a DVD in the Hardy Heron beta, but it won't work. I've already ran /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh, but I still get the error message "Could not read from resource". How do I fix this?
[17:55] <vova_kubba> Pici: ok, and i'm sorry beforehand if i will have mustakes because i'm from Ukraine ;)
[17:55] <Pici> Cheesasaurus_Rex: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:55] <lel> hallo ik ban alex
[17:56] <hscade> unop, after reboot it works too :)
[17:56] <Tyczek>   Storage error: [File chunk write error: No such device.]
[17:56] <Tyczek>  Do you know what is wrong with rtorrent?
[17:56] <unop> hscade, nice .. i wonder what that was all about :)
[17:56] <prashant____> unop, waiting :)
[17:56] <jason__> why do people use older version of ubuntu?
[17:56] <jason__> loke hardy
[17:57] <jason__> like*
[17:57] <Mimi> jason__:  they might not be able to upgrade? dial up connection? etc etc
[17:57] <prawcess> jason_: cuz they are old-school
[17:57] <Pici> jason__: Hardy is not yet released.
[17:57] <jason__> oh ok i see
[17:57] <hjml> ups
[17:57] <doodoo> do you guys know if final 8.04 will support the wireless cards that come with xps 1330 (dell 1505. manuf. Broadcom)
[17:57] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> all right, thanks
[17:57] <hscade> unop, over again a big thanks :D
[17:57] <Pici> doodoo: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:57] <vova_kubba> yesturday i was run .avi file and after some time i understood thet mu sound is dead, now i cant listen anyone music or video file,but i have not any errors, all files runs but there are no sound, and my wi fi work not to
[17:57] <unop> prashant____,  this ought to give you a better result.    dd if=/dev/blah | bzip2 -9v > /path/to/backup
[17:57] <zvacet> jason__ :maybe they have stable and working system
[17:57] <unop> hscade, yw
[17:57] <jason__> i guss thats true
[17:58] <Pici> vova_kubba: Did you do any updates between the time of it working and when it stopped working?
[17:58] <hscade> unop, at least please explain me what means yw? :<
[17:58] <jason__> just wondering
[17:58] <unop> hscade, you're welcome
[17:58] <prashant____> 9v is that a proprietry zip
[17:58] <hscade> unop, thanks :)
[17:58] <prashant____> unop :
[17:58] <vova_kubba> Pici: no, i do nothing, just run 2839.avi
[17:58] <unop> prashant____, yes
[17:58] <lel> xchat-gnome
[17:59] <Pici> vova_kubba: Have you checked your mixer levels? using alsamixer or a gui alternative?
[17:59] <hjml> anyone ?...Plzzz :)..
[17:59] <prashant____> unop, i dont want to buy :( anything lol
[17:59] <prashant____> unop, i am poor
[17:59] <sipior> hjml: are you going to make us guess?
[17:59] <unop> prashant____, who asked you to go to the shops or anything? :)
[17:59] <vova_kubba> Pici: yes, i done it more times, i uped all levels but nothing happen
[17:59] <prashant____> unop, so is it available free :D
[18:00] <Pici> vova_kubba: Are you sure that the levels are not muted?
[18:00] <unop> prashant____, you are in #ubuntu, we use linux remember :)
[18:00] <hjml> Sipior> :P... I have problems with me NTFS HDD i can open them...
[18:00] <prashant____> unop, and BTW i have to install it using live cd is it preisntalled
[18:00] <Sid> Okay I did iptables -L and for all three things it said policy accept
[18:00] <hjml> Im getting this error msg : http://peecee.dk/upload/view/109766
[18:00] <Sid> and nothing else was listed
[18:00] <prashant____> unop, haha great i love that fact :)
[18:00] <unop> prashant____, yes, both dd and bzip2 are available
[18:00] <lel> xchat-gnome --help
[18:00] <zvacet> hjml : what kind of ntfs problem?
[18:01] <vova_kubba> Pici: mm.. how i can chek it? all levels are uped
[18:01] <vova_kubba> but what as for muted...
[18:01] <hjml> zvacet > See this link : http://peecee.dk/upload/view/109766
[18:01] <Sid> I am trying to ssh into my linux box, but i get connection refused but I have port 22 open and its on my network, I tried both my IP and my LAN ip and still nodda, I tried resetting my sshd and still doesn't work.
[18:01] <Pici> vova_kubba: If a line is muted, it will show MM on its mixer bar.
[18:01] <Sid> Okay I did iptables -L and for all three things it said policy accept
[18:01] <sipior> hjml: do you have windows also? best to follow the advice in the dialogue boz
[18:01] <prashant____> unop : thanks a lot unop.. BTW how much time do u expect it to take and how much the situation will improve :p
[18:02] <sipior> hjml: boot into windows, select "unmount device safely" and that should sort it out
[18:02] <prawcess> Sid: Just to ask, are the ports forwarded?
[18:02] <hjml> zvacet, nope...i install Ubuntu on a clean HDD
[18:02] <Sid> I have port 22 open
[18:02] <unop> Sid, can you connect to the ssh server from the machine it is running on itself?   ssh $USER@localhost
[18:02] <Sid> for the linux machine
[18:02] <hjml> sipior, I install ubuntu on a clean HDD ?!
[18:02] <prashant____> unop situtaion i mean by the size it will reduce hop 5.6 gig will not turn out to be 11 gigs
[18:02] <Sid> k one momento
[18:02] <unop> prashant____, how many GiB did you say it was?
[18:03] <nucco> hi, does anybody know why I can't compile C programs that use math functions?
[18:03] <hjml> sipior, > I tryed to follow the suggestion on that error msg but did'nt help
[18:03] <sipior> hjml: in that case, you can try the force option, as indicated in the dialogue. that does carry some risks however...
[18:03] <zvacet> hjml : then I don´t understand how you get that message
[18:03] <sipior> hjml: it didn't work?
[18:03] <unop> prashant____, hopefully it will reduce it, but there is no way to say before-hand by how much exactly, it depends on the data - that should take little more than an hour
[18:03] <sparr_> I have many hard drives.  I would like to spread certain folders over multiple drives, so that I don't have to manually manage free space on each drive.  Is there a [much] less destructive solution for this than RAID?
[18:03] <hjml> sipior, Force option ?...
[18:03] <sipior> nucco: you added an "-lm" to the compilation line, right?
[18:04] <unop> prashant____, this might be better ..
[18:04] <hjml> sipior, > nopes didn't work...
[18:04] <_Net> Hi.
[18:04] <nucco> sipior: I'm using anjuta, have been unable to figure out how to do that in the IDE
[18:04] <_Net> Is it possible for me to run a windows partition while being in a ubuntu partition
[18:04] <prashant____> unop, i think a bit confusion here.... look my partion size is 26 gigs and installed content is 5.6 gigs and the previous image obatianed by gzip is 11 GB .. my effort is to reduce the size to what is intalled in it... hope u understand :)
[18:05] <Sid> when i try to ssh on the host machine it still says connection refused on port 22
[18:05] <unop> prashant____,   then this is probably what you want.   tar  cjf  /path/to/backup.tbz   /path/to/mount-point
[18:05] <zvacet> hjml : I supose that is your only choice
[18:05] <unop> prashant____, you have to make sure that the partition is mounted at /path/to/mount-point first
[18:05] <_Net> I heard somewhere it was possible, not sure if its true
[18:06] <majorglitch> hello all
[18:06] <hjml> zvacet, hmm...or that i have to re-install ?...i have some important files on that partion...
[18:06] <Sid> when i try to ssh on the host machine it still says connection refused on port 22
[18:06] <prashant____> unop how to restore that :s
[18:07] <majorglitch> anyone here suffer from owning a chipset using the rtl8187 module?
[18:07] <zvacet> hjml : Maybe better then play with options (force )
[18:07] <hjml> zvacet, I can open one of the partion (NFTS) but the only one that can' t are this partion
[18:07] <Sid> when i try to ssh on the host machine it still says connection refused on port 22
[18:07] <unop> prashant____,  tar zjf /path/to/backup.tbz  -C /path/to/mount-point
[18:07] <Teknoenie> is anyone here using network preseeded installations for Ubuntu? Specifically testing 8.04 preseed?
[18:07] <vova_kubba> Pici: i'm so sorry but i was disconnected from the server
[18:08] <majorglitch> (not looking for support)
[18:08] <prashant____> unop, i am confused with this "you have to make sure that the partition is mounted at /path/to/mount-point first"
[18:09] <hjml> zvacet : ok..ill try to re install XP and after that ubuntu on clean hdd
[18:09] <unop> prashant____, with dd, you can use the device name directly, i.e. /dev/sdXX ..  with tar, you need to mount that device first.   mount /dev/sdXX /path/to/mount-point
[18:09] <prashant____> unop, i am not a pro :) dont understand it at all.. can u please elaborate it :)
[18:09] <zvacet> hjml : I don´ know.maybe you should reinstall
[18:09] <Sid> I am trying to ssh into my linux box, but i get connection refused but I have port 22 open and its on my network, I tried both my IP and my LAN ip and still nodda, I tried resetting my sshd and still doesn't work.
[18:09] <vova_kubba> Pici: are you there>
[18:09] <vova_kubba> ?
[18:09] <Sid> I did iptables -L and for all three things it said policy accept
[18:09] <Sid> I have port 22 open
[18:09] <RocketGib> Hello.. I am using Ubuntu 7.10 Server and I am apparently unable to install the zlib package through apt-get
[18:09] <Sid> when i try to ssh on the host machine it still says connection refused on port 22
[18:09] <nucco> anyone knows how to pass "-lm" to the compiler when using anjuta?
[18:09] <unop> Sid, how do you know that port 22 is open?
[18:09] <Pici> vova_kubba: Yes, this was the last thing I said: If a line is muted, it will show MM on its mixer bar.
[18:09] <DJones> Sid: on your router, does it have a setting to forward port 22 to an internal ip address?
[18:10] <vova_kubba> Pici: and i answer that all levels are uped but what as for muted... how i can chek it?
[18:10] <Sid> yes
[18:10] <Sid> I have a dlink
[18:10] <Bubble_tea> Is there a program to check how hot is my processor and hard drive . B/c I have left it on 2 days.
[18:10] <Teknoenie> Sid: do you have the openssh-server package installed?
[18:10] <RocketGib> Hello.. I am using Ubuntu 7.10 Server and I am apparently unable to install the zlib package through apt-get... Help!!
[18:11] <Sid> I should it used to work
[18:11] <Pici> vova_kubba: If it is muted, on the mixer bars in alsamixer, where it would normally say 00, it shows MM
[18:11] <Sid> it*
[18:11] <majorglitch> Sid: do you have access to the ssh log?
[18:11] <DJones> Sid: has the internal ip address of the machine your forwarding to changed since the last time it worked
[18:11] <majorglitch> sshd*
[18:12] <prashant____> unop, but the device is already mounted :D
[18:12] <prashant____> unop, i mean when we make tar of it .. it is already mounted
[18:12] <unop> prashant____, well, then just use the mount pont it is mounted on :)
[18:12] <vova_kubba> Pici: oh, there are a lot of muted levels... how i cal ubmute it?
[18:12] <Sid> nope still 192.168.0.103
[18:12] <Pici> vova_kubba: press m
[18:13] <Sid> and i am the admin so yes I have access to it if it exists
[18:13] <Sid> how would accessing the ssh log help?
[18:13] <vova_kubba> Pici: ok, now i do it and after that will say you ok?
[18:13] <majorglitch> its somewhere in var/log
[18:13] <majorglitch> im installing the package to see for myself
[18:13] <Pici> vova_kubba: It might.
[18:13] <Teknoenie> Sid try disabling iptables
[18:13] <Bubble_tea> Is there a program to check how hot is my processor and hard drive . B/c I have left it on 2 days.  Anyone?
[18:13] <Teknoenie> Bubble_tea, lmsensors
[18:14] <Sid> k whats the command to disable iptables
[18:14] <prashant____> unop, please tell the way to restore the tar image back to the partition
[18:14] <zvacet> _Net : http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2007/01/running_a_physi.html
[18:14] <Teknoenie> sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[18:14] <unop> prashant____,  tar zjf /path/to/backup.tbz  -C /path/to/mount-point
[18:14] <DJones> Sid: Check whether its internal or an external problem, try www.canyouseeme.org and put port 22 in the box & click check, that should tell you whether the port is open to external access
[18:14] <Sid> k brb
[18:14] <Lloydie-t> I am having problems with dnsmasq. I am trying to set it up so it listens on 127.0.0.1 but netstat shows 0.0.0.0:53. is this right?
[18:15] <Teknoenie> is anyone here using preseed for installation?
[18:15] <prashant____> unop, oh i got it here u said that u have to mount the drive first b4 unzipping hehe
[18:15] <vova_kubba> Pici: I LOVE YOU!!!! THANKS !!!! IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!
[18:15] <Pici> vova_kubba: Great!
[18:15] <prashant____> unop, u meant that for restoring is it :)
[18:16] <vova_kubba> Pici: i'm very very very thank you
[18:16] <unop> prashant____, well, for both backing up and restoring
[18:16] <Lloydie-t> in dnsmasq i have 'listen-address=127.0.0.1'
[18:16] <prashant____> unop, thanks a lot :) for the help
[18:19] <artti> Hello. Does GnomaBaker burns .iso files so that i can boot from them?
[18:19] <zvacet> artti :yes
[18:19] <Armada> I haven't upgraded an ubuntu release before, do I need to reinstall or is there an upgrade option?
[18:20] <Armada> because the release is in 3 days
[18:20] <zvacet> Armada : you will see message in update manager
[18:20] <Armada> so, it will upgrade?
[18:20] <zvacet> Armada :yes
[18:21] <name10135> Exteris: You still AFK?
[18:21] <zvacet> Armada : I mean if you want to
[18:21] <Armada> zvacet: Sweet :P
[18:21] <mophead> armada: make sure you have enoughj space first
[18:21] <zvacet> Armada : yes,I know
[18:21] <artti> I got new Vista and now it has blue screen, Have to recovery it some how. Currently i use Ubuntu(on old computer) or Ubuntu LiveCD(on new computer) to do my work.
[18:21] <Exteris> name10135, not anymore
[18:22] <Armada> mophead: I reckon 40GB is enough? :P
[18:22] <mophead> depending on which partition, yes
[18:22] <Armada> root
[18:22] <mophead> My partition is only 8 gb and I have to repartition it again
[18:22] <mophead> my sda2
[18:22] <name10135> Exteris: Cool, let me know when you're ready to startup again
[18:22] <Sid> doing www.canyouseeme.org on port 22 gave me connection refused
[18:23] <Armada> mophead: Mine is 112GB
[18:23] <zvacet> Armada : I don´t think your root should be bigger then 10 but depends what are you doing
[18:23] <Sid> i dont know what my routing is trying to pull
[18:23] <Armada> zvacet: I use a lot of space
[18:23] <DJones> Sid: That would suggest that its your router thats causing the problem, as though the port forwarding isn't set up in it
[18:23] <mophead> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[18:23] <mophead> /dev/sda2             7.8G  7.8G     0 100% /
[18:23] <zvacet> Armada : do you have separate home partition?
[18:23] <Sid> except it is setup for it
[18:24] <Armada> zvacet: no
[18:24] <artti> I have two disks C and D. C has corrupted Vista that i try recover and D is empty. Nothing happens when i install Ubuntu on disk D?
[18:24] <Sid> iprange 22-22 ANY ALWAYS for 192.168.0.103
[18:24] <zvacet> Armada Then make one. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[18:25] <DJones> Sid: I don't know what to suggest, I've got a different router, so you're probably best asking generallly if anybody has a similar router that can help
[18:25] <phoenix64> plz, anybody can tell me why ubuntu 8.04 completely locked my root account? sudo always fails (don't know why though), su fails because no password is set. Anything I can do without rebooting?
[18:25] <zvacet> Armada : Or back up all your important data before you do upgrade
[18:25] <Armada> zvacet: I always backup
[18:25] <Pici> phoenix64: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:25] <Armada> zvacet: But I see your point
[18:25] <_Net> Hardy is out?
[18:25] <phoenix64> ok
[18:25] <zvacet> Armada : O.K. then
[18:26] <DJones> _Net: Another 3 days yet
[18:26] <_Net> Ya thought so :)
[18:26] <Jen_> hi, does anyone know if curlftpfs is broken in 7.10? Mount works perfectly, but eg. mkdir fails and the connection is lost with 'Software caused connection abort'
[18:26] <Armada> zvacet: I was just too used to windows to think about that, it is usefull, I'll try it a bit later
[18:26] <Armada> zvacet: thanks
[18:26] <zvacet> Armada : no problem
[18:27] <zvacet> see you later
[18:27] <_Net> Ok this sucks, I plugged in my ipod, then ejected it now I have no songs on my ipod
[18:28] <_Net> Eventhough I should have a 1000 songs and im using gtkpod
[18:28] <mophead> _net: did you forget to unmount?
[18:28] <_Net> ..I have to do that? I just plugged it and music player opens and I ejected
[18:28] <kekZpriester> ric_,
[18:29] <mophead> _net: I'm generally paranoid enough to unmouint any device before I unplug it
[18:29] <_Net> When I plug it back all my songs are visibly on my computer
[18:29] <mophead> hrm.  well at least the data is still there!
[18:29] <_Net> mophead: Whats the command to unmount it?
[18:29] <_Net> Ya :) im glad its not lost like last time
[18:29] <mophead> I'd go to the desktop, right click and click "unmount volume"
[18:30] <_Net> Ok.
[18:30] <_Net> There is no unmount voluem
[18:30] <_Net> its just eject, create archieve and open
[18:30] <_Net> and properties
[18:31] <prawcess> eject?
[18:31] <mophead> Hm.  My mp3 always gives an option to unmount.
[18:31] <julio_neto> Hy every one!
[18:31] <julio_neto> Give a little help here
[18:31] <_Net> Darn
[18:32] <_Net> Is there a terminal command I can use to unmount it
[18:32] <kingv> ok does any one know if xps 1330 wireless card by broadcom will be supported and automatically detected/installed by 8.04
[18:32] <Jen_> _Net: umount
[18:33] <_Net> I tried unmount <drive name>
[18:33] <_Net> didnt work
[18:33] <julio_neto> I went see BBC rádio, which use realplayer as player, and it shows the next msg: could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplayer in the system path to use as an embedded player
[18:33] <tgm> I have a bluetooth usb adapter that isn't working for multiple logged in users (ie, user 1 can use it, user 2 can't even see the bluetooth adapter except for in lsusb)  Is this normal behavior?
[18:33] <ChaosTheory^> What are some good programs that run inside terminal?
[18:33] <julio_neto> And I finished the installation of realplayer 11. Whats can I do?
[18:34] <mophead> _net: sorry, I'm lost.  Anyone?
[18:34] <ChaosTheory^> I have nAIM, htop, and elinks.
[18:34] <Exteris> name10135, join #lolkwtf
[18:34] <Pici> ChaosTheory^: Thats a bit of a open ended question
[18:34] <SunRayCafe> questions about 8.4: When 8.4 is released Thursday, am I going to be able to upgrade through apt dist-upgrade?
[18:34] <ChaosTheory^> Pici: It is.
[18:34] <ChaosTheory^> Pici: What are some of your favorites?
[18:34] <mophead> sunraycafe: yup
[18:34] <_Net> Why is the user from: 218.84.123.88 fucking flooding the room with joining a 100 users
[18:34] <mophead> check out #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <ChaosTheory^> Pici: Or do you know someplace with a list?
[18:34] <Pici> !language | _Net
[18:34] <ubotu> _Net: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:34] <kingv> ok does any one know if xps 1330 wireless card by broadcom will be supported and automatically detected/installed by 8.04
[18:35] <SunRayCafe> second question: is there a way to upgrade to the current release candidate of 8.04 through apt today?
[18:35] <mophead> !upgrade
[18:35] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:35] <Pici> ChaosTheory^: Not off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are some lists out there somewhere.
[18:36] <julio_neto> how to ability realplayer in firefox?
[18:36] <unop> SunRayCafe, sure, change each occurence of gutsy to hardy in your /etc/apt/sources.list  then do;  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:36] <Pici> unop: SunRayCafe: no no no.
[18:36] <_Net> sudo: unmount: command not found
[18:36] <Pici> SunRayCafe: Please read the message above from ubotu regarding upgrading
[18:36] <Pici> _Net: its umount, not unmount
[18:36] <SunRayCafe> er, just found the instructions through the Hardy download page for upgrading...
[18:37] <SunRayCafe> thanks guys
[18:37] <Jen_> _Net: what Pici said ;)
[18:37] <WorkingOnWise> where do I go to find out what version of some apps are in the fiesty repos? I'm on Hardy so I have no idea....
[18:37] <SunRayCafe> pici, will do
[18:37] <unop> Pici, this one ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:37] <_Net> Oh ok
[18:37] <SunRayCafe> mophead, thanks :)
[18:37] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: Install/use rmadison to determine package versions in other releases repos
[18:38] <mophead> sunraycafe: no problem
[18:38] <WorkingOnWise> ty Pici
[18:38] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: no problem
[18:39] <_Net> Ok, I unmounted it but in my iPOD it still says "Connected" but on my Ubuntu it says its not connected
[18:39] <FreakGuard> copy tags from one filed to another - any idea how to?
[18:39] <mophead> _net everyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that means it's unmounted
[18:39] <_Net> It does mean its unmounted, but why would my iPOD still show its connected
[18:40] <peleg> I have installed a new font - a hebrew font - and since then my Firefox shows all hebrew sites in that font. that font is not readable, really, so I can't read hebrew on most of the hebrew websites now. uninstalling the font will repair the situation; but I need that font. how can I force firefox to use another font by default, and not this font?
[18:40] <andcorps> hi
[18:40] <mophead> Perhaps it's just because it senses it's plugged in
[18:40] <unop> _Net, you might need to use 'eject' on the device too
[18:40] <andcorps> need some help her
[18:40] <andcorps> here
[18:40] <NewGuyPete> I have server 7.10 installed is there any way to change it from black and white to say black and green?
[18:40] <Pici> !ask | andcorps
[18:40] <ubotu> andcorps: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:40] <kingv> ok does any one know if xps 1330 wireless card by broadcom will be supported and automatically detected/installed by 8.04
[18:40] <andcorps> im newbies for linux distro
[18:41] <mophead> andcorps: what's your question?
[18:41] <kingv> anyone? :S
[18:41] <NewGuyPete> kingv: You might need to use ndiswrapper (something like that)
[18:41] <andcorps> does ubuntu recognised an earphone plug in to a lappy
[18:41] <RocketGib> it should
[18:41] <mophead> andcorps: in my experience, it does, but it doesn't mute the front speakers
[18:41] <kingv> NewGuyPete, thanks man. that's what i was thinking too
[18:41] <andcorps> does it really weks
[18:41] <andcorps> hmm
[18:41] <mophead> what I do is plug in my earphones/speakers, and mute the front speakers manually
[18:42] <andcorps> ok lets try
[18:42] <Pici> andcorps: It should, but some laptops have issues with it.
[18:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi i'm looking for a text based browser that supports tab function "if that makes sense"
[18:42] <andcorps> im using asus a3a
[18:42] <andcorps> pentium centrino
[18:42] <andcorps> all the intel stuff and so '
[18:43] <andcorps> so lets try with ndiswrapper first
[18:44] <mikkelm> Anyone with experience in setting up postfix with virtual users via mysql?
[18:44] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi i'm looking for a text based browser that supports tab function "if that makes sense", can anyone suggest something?
[18:44] <mikkelm> It's killing me.
[18:44] <andcorps> hey guys ..
[18:44] <peleg> mikkelm: It killed me too. try asking in postfix if you are determined to try it; I gave up.
[18:44] <Rotlaus> Hi, i added two lines to my /etc/sudoers so i can shut down my system as normaluser without giving a password. Since then i can not sudo anything. It just ask for password, but does nothing. How can i repair that?
[18:44] <andcorps> which one should i install
[18:44] <mikkelm> peleg: nice. thanks
[18:45] <zeroflag> dmraid can't find my AMD790-fake-raid... any suggestions?
[18:45] <andcorps> the common file or the other one
[18:45] <Baby_Shambl3s>  completion_char = :
[18:45] <Lorax> Baby_Shambl3s: I'm not aware of one, perhaps w3m?  Why not just use screen?
[18:46] <stdin> Baby_Shambl3s: elinks has tabs afaik
[18:46] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lorax: will check info on them
[18:47] <ice_cream> hmm
[18:47] <d-bos> im having a problem getting banshee to play a bunch of radio streams; says no codec. i installed all the gstreamer codecs. anyone can tell me what i need to do ? :p
[18:47] <ice_cream> mplayer is still at rc1 in ubuntu?!?!
[18:47] <Baby_Shambl3s> stdin: elinks... will check it out to see if it has tabs that function is quite useful im prepared to give up using lynx just for somehting with tab ability
[18:47] <ice_cream> getting Version: 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.2    =/
[18:48] <gogeta> Baby_Shambl3s links
[18:48] <gogeta> Baby_Shambl3s links can even have a basic gui mode
[18:49] <Baby_Shambl3s> gogeta: links? you mean lynx or are they different and it does have tab function through cli?
[18:50] <gogeta> !links
[18:50] <ubotu> Do NOT post links to Gutsy ISO files before an official release announcement is made.  These files are not the final release and will cause confusion.  Doing so will get you removed from the channel.
[18:50] <gogeta> lol
[18:50] <stdin> links is usually a symlink, check it's not elinks
[18:50] <stdin> ls -l /etc/alternatives/links
[18:50] <Yazan`> hey, anyone has a link to a guide on how to unsinstall ubuntu
[18:50] <gogeta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser)
[18:51] <Yazan`> i want to delete the whole partition
[18:51] <JohninLex> hello all
[18:51] <stdin> format it
[18:51] <Yazan`> stdin: i need a formatting CD right?
[18:51] <Baby_Shambl3s> !hello
[18:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:51] <Yazan`> stdin: or is there a way to do it when the system is restarting?
[18:52] <stdin> Yazan`: like the Desktop CD, or a window/Mac/whatever install CD
[18:52] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: why do you want to delete ubuntu
[18:52] <gogeta> Baby_Shambl3s its the only one that supports the framebufferd console if you wanna gui a console broswer with a bit more then text
[18:52] <cube> what do i use for an IRC server?
[18:52] <julio_neto> how to active realplayer in firefox?
[18:52] <lux0815> hi how i can list the upgradeable packages? I have tried apt-get -u upgrade but for this you need root rights.
[18:53] <unixSnob> i'm looking for a lean distro (something i can download over a 1xRTT connection), and install as a host of virtual machines.  I assume ubuntu is the wrong distro for this.. but there are many variants of ubuntu, so I'd like to find out if any of them are suitable for this.
[18:53] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: because my internet doesn't work on my ubuntu. And I need the space that i have used to install ubuntu. When my isp company's problem gets fixed, i will re-install it.
[18:53] <andcorps> guys i think the problem here is actually ..when i plug in my earphone my lappy speaker auto turn off, but doesnt goes out from my earphone
[18:53] <mophead> Yazan`: if you delete the partition, wouldn't it just wipe whatever is on it (e.g. ubuntu) anyway?
[18:53] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: but at the time, i want to uninstall ubuntu
[18:53] <Yazan`> mophead: that's right
[18:53] <ice_cream> so outdated =(
[18:53] <mophead> andcorps: check your audio settings and make sure "headphone" is turned all the way up
[18:53] <ice_cream> my only issue
[18:53] <dirtyhand> Is there some sort of Linux audio library that does compressing and encoding/conversion at run time? (so I can slap it into a web app)
[18:53] <andcorps> ok see
[18:53] <cube> should i use bahanet for setting up a irc server on ubuntu?
[18:54] <Pici> cube: Its entirely up to you
[18:54] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: ok but have you tried asking for help in getting internet working on your system running ubuntu or its just a case that you just want it off?
[18:54] <cube> *bahamanet
[18:54] <cube> well do you know what is easiest or atleast works?
[18:54] <Pici> cube: No idea one way or the other
[18:54] <cube> then stmu
[18:55] <Pici> Excuse me?
[18:55] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: i'm sick and tired of asking and searching and at the end, it was a problem with my isp company. I don't want to waste anymore time. I will later when problems with my isp company is solved, but at the tim being, i will stick with windows.
[18:55] <ng0n> crud.. my scanner isn't supported.
[18:55] <ng0n> o well. it's like 10 years old
[18:55] <Yazan`> plus, all my applications will only work on windows platform, so there is no use of ubuntu now
[18:56] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way for kdesudo to "lockdown" on the focus, keyboard, and mouse like gksudo does?
[18:57] <phoenixz> Does Ubuntu (7.10) out of the box  support files > 2GB? lets say, files of 7GB?
[18:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: hmmm doubt the problem would be with the isp but yeah just format the whole disk or partition with gparted or seomthing and you cna run ubuntu in windows just get virtualbox on it
[18:57] <Yazan`> now, anyone has a guide on how to delete the partiotion when i'm booting up the pc?
[18:57] <_Net> Need some recommendations: There are so many music players, I want some elligant and easy to use..something like winamp..can anyone give me any names?
[18:57] <_Net> I'm trying xmms players its nice so far Im trying to see if i can run into a better one
[18:58] <gogeta> _Net xmms
[18:58] <Odd-rationale> phoenixz: as long as you installed on a ext3 partition, it should.
[18:58] <Pici> _Net: beep-media-player is similar to winamp
[18:58] <riotkittie> _Net: audacious.
[18:58] <gogeta> _Net xmms is just like it
[18:58] <_Net> Does xmms have playlists
[18:58] <PedanticSteve> Yazan, do you have dual boot set up?  if so you can delete the partition from windows cant you?  if not the windows installer can reformat for you
[18:58] <Pici> _Net: Both do
[18:58] <_Net> So Xmms, beep-media-player or audacious
[18:58] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: just told you gparted to delete partition otherwise pop in your win98 floppy and format whole disk "you can still download those floppy image by seraching on google
[18:58] <_Net> I'll try them all.
[18:59] <riotkittie> the winampesque version of beep's no longer being worked on, afaik. and neither is xmms.  but i could be wrong. i often am.
[19:00] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: ah, ok. you know, you could of said that gparted is a program :)
[19:00] <gogeta> lol xmms was been around for a long long time
[19:00] <riotkittie> what's funny about that?
[19:00] <gogeta> its opensource its always being worked on
[19:00] <Pici> riotkittie: Well thats disappointing
[19:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: sorry thought it was obvious my bad please forgive :3
[19:00]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[19:00] <Yazan`> lol, thanks anyways.
[19:01] <riotkittie> gogeta: there are plenty of open source applications that aren't  actively maintained
[19:02] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: run it while i'm on ubuntu, right?
[19:02] <_Net> xmms and audacious look a lot alike
[19:02] <gogeta> riotkittie well someone keeps porting it to the latest ubuntu every year
[19:03] <gogeta> riotkittie i call that still activ
[19:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: nope download live CD copy it to CD and run on boot than delete what you want
[19:04] <RoxanneM> i have 2 problems guys, i downloaded some songs, they got downloaded to the desktop(im running liveCD) ... but i cannotactually see the files, has anyone encountered this problem?
[19:04] <RoxanneM> NM  just found them....
[19:04] <RoxanneM> hahah i was searching for an hour last night
[19:04] <_Net> Lol.
[19:05] <tifine> i am having problem with oracle on ubuntu, anybody here
[19:05] <riotkittie> well bully for you
[19:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ot | riotkittie, gogeta
[19:05] <ubotu> riotkittie, gogeta: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:05] <Jello> this is my first time in irc, any tips for a newbie?
[19:05] <Flare183> !lol | _Net
[19:05] <ubotu> _Net: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[19:05] <riotkittie> !botabuse > Baby_Shambl3s
[19:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ask | Jello
[19:05] <ubotu> Jello: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:05] <gogeta> Jello yea uninstall windows
[19:05] <gogeta> :P
[19:06] <Odd-rationale> Jello: the tab key is a good way to auto complete nicks. e.g. odd<TAB> and you get my nick
[19:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> Jello: it was meant to  tell you to just ask a question and we would help
[19:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> riotkittie: :(
[19:06] <riotkittie> he did ask a question.
[19:06] <Sindacious> Hi, the buttons system, etc has sorta disappeared...how do I make them come back?
[19:06] <RoxanneM> second problem.... i need grub back, i installed windows, and as we all know, windows took over....i tried the tutorial that is @ the link that ubotu gives, but it will not work, i must be doing something wrong
[19:06] <phoenixz> Odd-rationale> Thanks!
[19:06] <gogeta> !grub
[19:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:06] <Odd-rationale> phoenixz: about what?
[19:07] <Yazan`> Baby_Shambl3s: shall i extract gparted in E:\?
[19:07] <Pici> Sindacious: Right click on the panel, go to add to panel and pick the 'main menu' or something with a similar name
[19:07] <RoxanneM> yeah thats the tutorial im usung
[19:07] <Yazan`> and then reboot the computer?
[19:07] <Jello> No windows on my machines, the closet I get to windows is apple os x. ;)
[19:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> RoxanneM: there are some good tutorials on getting grub back search on google
[19:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> !grub | RoxanneM
[19:07] <ubotu> RoxanneM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:08] <RoxanneM> as you may or maynot read, that is the tutorial i tried using, but thanks for the same link twice
[19:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> Yazan`: once downloaded dont extract the iso mount it than burn to CD
[19:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> !iso | Yazan`
[19:08] <ubotu> Yazan`: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:08] <Sindacious> pici: is there a way to get the default one back? I don't even know what happened, I think my mouse went nuts on my again and I grabed it off the bar :s
[19:08] <Rotlaus> How can i check (on the command line) in which groups my user is?
[19:09] <djzn> is there any way to tell the LiveCD to bring up a fixed screen resolution and not let it be set at ridiculous resolutions like 800x600????
[19:09] <Pici> Sindacious: There may be more than one 'main menu' in the applet list, you may have to add both to see which one it is
[19:09] <thannoy> Rotlaus: type the command 'id'
[19:09] <Odd-rationale> Rotlaus: try "groups"
[19:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> RoxanneM: sorry but there are far better tuts in ubuntuforums.org and through google however you're going to have to search
[19:10] <Al-Khouli> Hi guys, i am trying to run this binary file and i am facing this error: "./lmgrd: relocation error: ./lmgrd: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[19:10] <Al-Khouli> ". it seems that the program has been linked with a version of glibc older than 2.3. Newer versions of glibc no longer provide errno as a global variable to allow its thread-safe usage. How could i solve this problem ( I don't have the source code to recompile)
[19:10] <RoxanneM> ubotu should be updated to these better tuts
[19:10] <Sindacious> Pici: Thanks, found it
[19:10] <sven> Does anyone know where I can find out how to enable two video adapters?
[19:11] <Dysk> Any of you guys have vmware going in 8.04 yet?
[19:11] <Rotlaus> Ok, thanks. Now i've found the problem why i can't sudo anything anymore. It seems while adding myself to the vboxusers group i deleted all other groups, so i am not in the admin group anymore. Can i fix this without the ability to sudo? With the Live CD?
[19:11] <Flannel> Dysk: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions, thanks
[19:11]  * Dysk nods at flannel
[19:11] <NewGuyPete> sven: I think its in system -> prefrences
[19:11] <Flannel> Rotlaus: LiveCD is a possibility, Recovery console is eaier
[19:12] <Jowi> !rescue | Rotlaus
[19:12] <ubotu> Rotlaus: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[19:12] <Flannel> Rotlaus: you used usermod, I imagine?
[19:12] <Rotlaus> Flannel, yes, i did.
[19:12] <Odd-rationale> Rotlaus: reboot and choose "recovery mode" in the grub menu
[19:12] <NewGuyPete> sven: its in system -> admin -> screens and somthing
[19:12] <Odd-rationale> Rotlaus: that will auto matically log you in as root
[19:13] <Rotlaus> The name of the group ihave to add is 'admin' ?
[19:13] <sven> NewGuyPete: screens and graphics?
[19:13] <NewGuyPete> yaeh
[19:13] <Odd-rationale> Rotlaus: to "gpasswd -a rotlaus admin"
[19:13] <Flannel> Rotlaus: Right, what you did is you forgot the -a to append, so you instead set your groups instead of adding to them.  You can use adduser in the future, or just don't forget the -a anymore.
[19:13] <Odd-rationale> *do
[19:13] <andcorps> okay i have 2 mode of sound system ALSA or HDA Intel; both does not shows any headphone leveler..seem like i wont be able to use my earphone..install the ndiswrapper..but the description on the packaging does not shows its for audio installation..more on wireless card or something
[19:14] <Flannel> Rotlaus: `adduser rotlaus admin` will work, or usermod -G admin -a rotlaus
[19:14] <Rotlaus> Flannel, thanks. Im gonna for a reboot now. All other thanks, too.
[19:14] <mophead> andcorps: edit --> preferences and make sure everything is checked
[19:14] <yedda1> how can I use the command scp such that it does NOT overwrite existing files that have already been copied?
[19:14] <Flannel> Rotlaus: Once you've done that, you'll need to re-add all your other secondary groups as well
[19:14] <Flare183> Flannel: lets hope that works
[19:15] <Flannel> Flare183: why wouldn't it work?
[19:15] <yedda1> that is important if I copy recursively and not selectively
[19:15] <dtrainer> can someone recommend a package for running an internet cafe?
[19:15] <Flare183> Flannel: Because I had a similar problem before, and I had to reformat my computer to get everything back to working position
[19:16] <osmosis> the icon for xchat-gnome is broken after first installing, but is fine after a reboot.
[19:16] <RoxanneM> with liveCD, can you take it out and burn a CD?
[19:16] <osmosis> it was this way in gutsy, and appears the same in hardy.
[19:17] <Flannel> Flare183: That's rediculous.  If all you did was remove yourself from the groups, all you need to do is re-add yourself and you're fine.
[19:17] <julio_neto> RocketGib, I don't think so
[19:17] <Baby_Shambl3s> RoxanneM: huh? what do you mean...? once you have a liveCd downlaoded burn it to a CD and use it, if you want another copy of it than burn it again or the actual cd with the contents
[19:17] <Chaotic_Descent> I used gparted to make a second partition on my HD for media files. why don't I have access to it? it says I'm not the owner.
[19:17] <julio_neto> RocketGib, in saw it in another distro, but in Ubuntu, no
[19:18] <Flare183> Flannel: I know, but at the time I didn't think about that. But since I know that now. I will never have to go through that again.
[19:18] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: you need to give yourself ownership for that drive
[19:18] <edan> er, how can I get gdk-x11 library?
[19:18] <RoxanneM> Baby_Shambl3s:  i want to know if , while using the liveCD-can you burn a CD
[19:18] <toro> ?
[19:18] <mophead> andcorps: make sure your headphones are plugged into the headphone hole, instead of the microphone hole.  it's a common mistake
[19:18] <rj175> hey room. getting an internal server error with awstats any ideas?
[19:19] <Chaotic_Descent> what do I use to give myself ownership? I didn't see anything in gparted.
[19:19] <Baby_Shambl3s> RoxanneM: doubt it since youre goign to be using once you boot and the Cd contents doesnt have a burning feature or partition edit
[19:19] <cvd-pr> Its there a way to uninstall the VurtialBox.sh software?
[19:20] <Chaotic_Descent> it has something to do with mounting? gparted says the partition isn't mounted.
[19:20] <djzn> is there any way to tell the LiveCD to bring up a fixed screen resolution and not let it be set at ridiculous resolutions like 800x600????
[19:20] <KRF> id like to set up a cd release mirror in germany, is this a good idea or are there already too many?
[19:20] <ViRUS> I got some weird problem after updating my kernel to 2.6.24. "modprobe lp" and "modprobe parport_lowlevel" just hang - thus causing the init to fail.
[19:20] <earthmeLon> So guys, can you format NTFS with Ubuntu? (using qtparted right now, it's not an option :P)
[19:20] <andcorps> check every single box ..set everything on maximum..both on ALSA and HDA Intel nothing came out from the earphone. How to config this
[19:20] <Odd-rationale> KRF: always a good idea :)
[19:21] <RoxanneM> the liveCD comes with basero
[19:21] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: you cna search online for terminal command, run nautilus in sudo and change permission settings on the drive to your user instead of root
[19:21] <RoxanneM> brasero even
[19:21] <Chaotic_Descent> Thanks, Baby_Shambl3s
[19:21] <Odd-rationale> earthmeLon: you can create ntfs partitions with ubuntu but you can't install ubuntu on a ntfs partition
[19:22] <earthmeLon> Odd-rationale nice.  How does one format NTFS partitions with Ubuntu?
[19:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> RoxanneM: o_0 gparted comes with brasero... are you sure wow if thats correct that ahs changed since last time i used it so maybe yeah try your luck
[19:22] <earthmeLon> Hmmm, seems gparted might be able to do it.  Let me try that Odd-rationale
[19:22] <Odd-rationale> earthmeLon: gparted is the easiest way. make sure the disk is unmounted before partitioning or formatting
[19:22] <RoxanneM> im running liveCD right now
[19:23] <win2k8adm> I HATE LINUX SO FUCKING MUCH
[19:23] <earthmeLon> I hate using Gparted, because it takes so freaking long to scan my hdds :P
[19:23] <DarkOdos> hello everybody
[19:23] <DarkOdos> mmm
[19:23] <earthmeLon> Whats up DarkOdos
[19:23] <julio_neto> alguem aqui sabe como usar o jSMS?
[19:23] <julio_neto> onde eu posso baixar a mais nova versão?
[19:23] <DarkOdos> in reality it depens on what distro you´are using
[19:23] <rj175> hey room. getting an internal server error with awstats any ideas?
[19:23] <Pici> w/hois win2k8adm
[19:23] <biagidp> What's a good program for desktop video capture?
[19:23] <djzn> how to alter a Live-System resolution while inside the live system.... (when the gui offers not 1024x758)...
[19:24] <Rotlaus> Me again, everything works again. Thanks again
[19:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> earthmeLon: do it manually than you dont have to use gparted
[19:24] <DarkOdos> jeje
[19:24] <DarkOdos> in relaity i dont like ubuntu
[19:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ot
[19:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:24] <DarkOdos> im downloading slackware
[19:25] <ompaul> DarkOdos, so hen you aren in the wrong channel yes?
[19:25] <prawcess> lol indeed.. slacker.
[19:25] <DarkOdos> nope
[19:25] <earthmeLon> Baby_Shambl3s, I'm not sure how to do that.  Kinda why I'm here :P
[19:25] <DarkOdos> sorry
[19:25] <Orbixx> Firestarter times out when starting on boot. Any idea why?
[19:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> prawcess: lol like that pun
[19:25] <DarkOdos> but in reality i have had many problems with ubuntu
[19:25] <ompaul> !offtopic | DarkOdos
[19:25] <ubotu> DarkOdos: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:25]  * Flare183 says Ubuntu Rocks
[19:25] <dbrewer_rjr> how do i get the username from the uid?
[19:26] <djzn> how to alter a Live-System resolution while inside the live system.... (when the gui offers not 1024x758)...
[19:26] <Baby_Shambl3s> earthmeLon: you didnt ask for help in formating hd inside ubuntu, no one will help you unless you ask and gparted is quite good for those that like gui i use it myself
[19:26] <rj175> hey room. getting an internal server error with awstats.its set up with virtual servers and im wondering if its something to do with the configurations of the servers. its been annoyin me for ages any ideas?
[19:26] <Orbixx> rj175: Check the permissions of the awstats file.
[19:26] <Orbixx> Make sure it can execute.
[19:27] <ompaul> dbrewer_rjr, grep UID /etc/password
[19:27] <earthmeLon> Baby_Shambl3s I asked earlier, It's all good.  I'm currently looking up how to do it without gparted, but I am having a hard time finding any information.  Do you know of a good place to look?
[19:27] <Chaotic_Descent> what is sudo?
[19:27] <dbrewer_rjr> ompaul: i did that. rsync gave the file to a uid i cannot locate
[19:27] <DJones> !sudo | Chaotic_Descent
[19:27] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:27] <hwilde> !gparted | earthmeLon, Baby_Shambl3s
[19:27] <ubotu> earthmeLon, Baby_Shambl3s: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[19:27] <andcorps> anyone could help me with this earphone issue
[19:28] <hwilde> !sound | andcorps
[19:28] <ubotu> andcorps: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:28] <andcorps> ok
[19:28] <earthmeLon> Baby_Shambl3s Sweet, I am installing ntfsprogs, which contains mkntfs.  I'll play around with that!
[19:28] <andcorps> thanks try that first
[19:28] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm lost again. terminal command doesn't seem to be specific to anything. I typed "nautilus" in that, and it brought up the file browser. the file browser doesn't let me change ownership of partitions.
[19:28] <rj175> orbixx where is the file stored again :S
[19:28] <ompaul> dbrewer_rjr, are they both the same system type - i.e. what o/s is on both?
[19:29] <earthmeLon> Baby_Shambl3s:  Do you know of a way to get a list of all my available HDDs?  I just installed a new one and am not sure what it's labeled as.
[19:29] <ompaul> dbrewer_rjr, it is usually a sign that the user:group combo is not the same on both boxen
[19:29] <hwilde> earthmeLon, sudo fdisk -l
[19:29] <dbrewer_rjr> well, where it came from does not matter, it is migrated to gusty from red hat
[19:29] <hwilde> Chaotic_Descent, type "sudo nautilus"
[19:29] <Orbixx> rj175: No idea. lol
[19:29] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: what are you doing exactly? to run nautilus as root you need command gksudo nautilus...
[19:29] <Orbixx> Google it.
[19:29] <dbrewer_rjr> ompaul: well, where it came from does not matter, it is migrated to gusty from red hat
[19:30] <Baby_Shambl3s> hwilde: gui should not be claled with sudo but gksudo
[19:30] <Orbixx> Problem! Firestarter times out when starting on boot. Any idea why?
[19:30] <ompaul> dbrewer_rjr, that is the cause of the lack of ownership it is a group user mismatch that is the cause and therefore does matter :)
[19:30] <dbrewer_rjr> ompaul: true, i have the sgid bit set on the gutsy box, to enable group share.
[19:30] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm trying to make a partition to put media files onto. I'm new to Linux in general.
[19:31] <hwilde> Chaotic_Descent, if you want to make a partition, use gparted
[19:31] <hwilde> !gparted | Chaotic_Descent
[19:31] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[19:31] <dbrewer_rjr> ompaul: but the file owner is a mystery to me
[19:31] <Chaotic_Descent> I used gparted. I can't seem to access the filespace. it lists something called "lost + found" which I don't have permission to access.
[19:31] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't create folders either.
[19:32] <hwilde> Chaotic_Descent, how did you mount the new partition
[19:32] <Chaotic_Descent> it says it's not mounted.
[19:32] <rj175> orbixx this is wat the file is like
[19:32] <rj175> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 548932 2008-04-20 22:46 awstats.pl
[19:32] <hwilde> !mount | Chaotic_Descent
[19:32] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:32] <mnemo> what determines which modules get loaded into the "lsmod" list? is there some config file for that or?
[19:32] <earthmeLon> Cluster size has been automatically set to 4096 bytes. < I hope that's good :P
[19:32] <Orbixx> rj175: Seems fine.
[19:32] <ompaul> dbrewer_rjr, I just told you - user:group  has to match on both systems they don't use the same one
[19:32] <hwilde> Chaotic_Descent, follow that info from ubotu and mount the new partition.
[19:32] <Orbixx> Might be worth reinstalling it.
[19:33] <rj175> ill do tht now and get back to u :P
[19:33] <zeno> hi i am gettting the error "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailible)" (yes im using sudo)
[19:34] <hwilde> zeno, close your other synaptics
[19:34] <simple> t.com
[19:34] <Chaotic_Descent> I do not seem to have a  System -> Administration -> Disks
[19:34] <dbrewer_rjr> ompaul: the code was already migrated. the user:group did not match. Now I need to know who owns the file. maybe i should grep the shadow file?
[19:34] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: if its not mounted than mount it using command sudo mount /dev/ds2 "if thats the device" and mount it to /media/whatever but you must create the folder there using sudo mkdir
[19:34] <zeno> hwilde: not running any
[19:34] <zeno> killall synaptic just to be sure and nothing =p
[19:35] <hwilde> zeno, that usually means some other process has the lock.  like apt-get
[19:35] <PeterFA> Everytime I start kword or OpenOffice.org Writer, it starts drawing the window and then crashes. This has been happening since I had FF2 open and updates running, and updates crashed mentioning something about FF2 (I forget the exact error message). How do I fix this? Do I have to reinstall every package?
[19:35] <FireSnake> Can anybody help me? My opera don't play flash but FF plays
[19:35] <zeno> hwilde: im just running that terminal and firefox
[19:35] <rj175> orbixx still got the same error :(
[19:35] <hwilde> zeno, if you are *sure* there is nothing else running that would have the lock... you could delete the lock
[19:35] <zeno> im sure
[19:35] <dbrewer_rjr> << clueless at this point
[19:35] <zeno> how to delete it? thx
[19:35] <hwilde> dbrewer_rjr, just chown it
[19:35] <hwilde> zeno,  rm it
[19:36] <Pici> !aptfix | zeno
[19:36] <ubotu> zeno: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:36] <zeno> so sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lock?
[19:36] <dbrewer_rjr> lol that would take forever, unless i -R it, then live with the consequences
[19:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> hmmm is w3m really a text based browser looks too good to be so especially since it shows images hope its not slow but i think has tabs even knowing the site doesnt mention it
[19:36] <dbrewer_rjr> i guess chown it is
[19:36] <zeno> Pici: thx
[19:37] <dbrewer_rjr> but i still think i should be able to do a reverse lookup from the uid
[19:37] <rj175> anyone else got any ideas about internal server error with awstats?
[19:38] <recon> Does anybody know how to type the german B-looking character using the compose key?
[19:39] <Pici> recon: I personally would go and find it in gucharmap, but then again I have no compose keys
[19:39] <recon> gucharmap? so that's what I was looking for.
[19:39] <Bubble_tea> How i search files in my other hard drives?
[19:40] <Chaotic_Descent> huh... I can't mount. I have to be root.
[19:40] <unop> Bubble_tea, via the GUI or command line?
[19:41] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: thats the point of typing "sudo" before your mount command
[19:41] <blind> Okay, I have a bit of a problem. I'm connected to my wireless network, and my wired network keeps coming alive and kills my connection.
[19:41] <blind> because, there is nothing wired.
[19:41] <biagidp> Can anyone recommend a program for desktop video capture?
[19:41] <blind> i've changed it in the network settings gui, i've done ifconfig eth0 down, it just keeps coming back up
[19:42] <Flare183> !screencast | biagidp
[19:42] <ubotu> biagidp: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[19:42] <Chaotic_Descent> oh. I didn't know sudo was a command. I thought it was the command line.
[19:42] <unop> !record desktop
[19:42] <zeno> Pici: still not working
[19:42] <biagidp> Flare183, Thanks
[19:42] <Chaotic_Descent> I have absolutely no idea what all these words are. I'm just guessing most of the time.
[19:42] <Flare183> biagidp: no problem
[19:42] <blind> Chaotic_Descent: sudo = superuser do
[19:42] <corporal_clegg> hello, I need help with an Apple Wireless Keyboard. It's bluetooth and it seems it's paired with my pc
[19:42] <blind> maybe that'll help it mean more in your head :P
[19:43] <corporal_clegg> I've did what's written here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothInputDevices?highlight=(bluetooth)|(keyboard)
[19:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: typing sudo in sheel before a command makes that command root it will basically affect the system while doing it without makes it normal user
[19:43] <Chaotic_Descent> ... what the heck's the root password?
[19:43] <Bubble_tea> unop GUI
[19:43] <blind> your password.
[19:43] <Chaotic_Descent> strange. I tried to log in as root with that and it wouldn't let me. unless root's account isn't "root"
[19:43] <Flare183> Chaotic_Descent: the password that you used to install ubuntu with]
[19:43] <Flare183> with*
[19:43] <blind> !passwd | Chaotic_Descent
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passwd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <blind> fuck
[19:43] <blind> oops
[19:43] <blind> ;x
[19:43] <FloodBot1> blind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <unop> Bubble_tea, the gnome-search-tool
[19:44] <Pici> !language | blind
[19:44] <ubotu> blind: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:44] <blind> yeah, sorry
[19:44] <Flare183> !language | blind
[19:44] <Flare183> yeah
[19:44] <blind> totally reflexatie
[19:44] <axion> sudo asks for a password for the sake that if someone else gets behind your keyboard he/she just can't do super user tasks just like that
[19:44] <Pici> Okay
[19:44] <blind> +v
[19:44] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, so I had to do that mkdir BEFORE I mounted, not after.
[19:44] <Chaotic_Descent> this is so complicated.
[19:44] <Flare183> Pici +1
[19:44] <remote> how can I stop X on an Ubuntu live CD, all init levels seem to insist on starting it
[19:44] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: if you're the one who installed ubuntu onto your system than root pass would be your normal pass but if not you're going to have to ask the eprson who did so
[19:45] <Chaotic_Descent> I installed it. can't I just log in as root instead of typing out commands?
[19:45] <blind> !root
[19:45] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:45] <zeno> hi i am gettting the error "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailible)" (yes im using sudo); i dont have any package managers open and i tried the sudo fuser.... thing
[19:45] <blind> there, read that, Chaotic_Descent
[19:45] <unop> remote, you can access a virtual terminal -  CTRL+ALT+F1 .. the command to stop X is.   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[19:45] <remote> unop: I want to stop X though.
[19:45] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: I think the problem is that you havent serached online and have no idea how to do this there are many tuts in google and ubuntu forums that give simple instruction on how to mount its not hard it seems hard cause its your first time
[19:45] <remote> ah oh
[19:46] <unop> remote, the CD is built that way, to start X .. if you want to stop it, you have to do so manually
[19:46] <craig> just like to say, i've been using ubuntu for 2 days now, and finding it awesome, don't think i'll be going back to vista anytime soon :-)
[19:46] <axion> zeno make sure you have other package managers active..
[19:46] <Chaotic_Descent> I did search online. I just coun't find anything relevant. I found stuff about installing Ubuntu that had nothing to do with this.
[19:46] <linkinxp> craig:  :D nice
[19:46] <Chaotic_Descent> It's also very hard to search for things you know nothing about.
[19:46] <spacepluk> hi, anybody know how can I run apps with a different locale?
[19:46] <blind> Okay, I have a bit of a problem. I'm connected to my wireless network, and my wired network keeps coming alive and kills my connection, because I have nothing wired. Any help?
[19:47] <spacepluk> I mean different to the system default
[19:47] <recon> In fact, is there any way to find out which characters are mapped to different compose key variations?
[19:47] <axion> Chaotic_Descent, there's NO root password
[19:47] <Chaotic_Descent> I looked in the Ubuntu help itself and just found stuff about different applications. nothing about the generalities of how you mount partitions.
[19:47] <ghaith> Chaotic_Descent, sudo is simply safer then logging in as root, and don't do that.. sudo su - will keep you from typing sudo infront of every command for that session if you want, you'll be root inside that terminal..
[19:47] <Chaotic_Descent> axion: yes, thank you. I got that the FIRST time someone told me!
[19:48] <zeno> axion: positive
[19:48] <zeno> also su isnt working (and i know its the right password)
[19:48] <blind> zeno: sudo su
[19:48] <axion> to mount a partition first you have to be certain the drive is attached to the system and drivers are available and activated..
[19:49] <axion> secondly you have to make sure it's not allready mounted
[19:49] <craig> before I installed ubuntu I could boot from Vista or XP, now that ubuntu has taken over as the boot loader i can only boot into ubuntu and Vista (not XP), how can i get XP back, as i need it for specific apps?
[19:49] <linkinxp> craig:  :D nice
[19:49] <linkinxp> ups
[19:49] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: going afk ppl here will help you out but you should search online on how to mount, how sudo works and how ubuntu/linux organises its files, be back in 15mins "its relaly easy but it takes time when youre new"
[19:49] <axion> thirdly make a directory in /mnt ( like /mnt/sdc1
[19:49] <Chaotic_Descent> it's the mounting that was new to me.
[19:49] <axion> then mount the partition on that directory
[19:49] <linkinxp> craig:  typing the information in  grub? i think
[19:50] <Chaotic_Descent> yeah, I finally got it. I think. It's just that I didn't know I was supposed to search for general info on mounting, or how to identify if I had found general info on it, or specific info that didn't cover what I needed to do.
[19:50] <ghaith> craig, you can modify the grub config, copy the vista part, and modify  the drive and name.. or boot into vista and have the bootload (in system properties i think) have 2 options, xp and vista
[19:50] <axion> man mount
[19:51] <andcorps> seem like need some sleep
[19:51] <zeno> hi i am gettting the error "could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailible)" (yes im using sudo); i dont have any package managers open and i tried the sudo fuser.... thing
[19:51] <blind> Okay, I have a bit of a problem. I'm connected to my wireless network, and my wired network keeps coming alive and kills my connection, because I have nothing wired. Any help?
[19:51] <andcorps> been trying to conf this for month now
[19:51] <krammer_> how do i know if a packet socket is enabled
[19:51] <andcorps> see u all tomorrow
[19:51] <craig> ghaith, do you know the location of grub config off the top of your head
[19:52] <axion> zeno if you are certain that the package manager is not running..
[19:52] <axion> remove the lock file
[19:52] <ghaith> /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:52] <axion> by andcorps
[19:52] <axion> +e
[19:52] <craig> cheers
[19:52] <blind> i would never dual-boot. virtualbox's seamless mode is lovely.
[19:52]  * Pelo wonders what he will do if nickrud is not around to help him 
[19:53] <zeno> axion: sorry what command? thx
[19:53] <Baby_Shambl3s> is there a way i cna get terminal to show in tray and yes im the unlucky person that cant use compiz-fusion so no invisible desktop shell for me :(?
[19:53] <Magus_X> blind: virtualbox's cant run games at its best lol
[19:53] <axion> delete the lock file
[19:53] <zeno> and im positive even did the ps ax | grep synap (and aptitude and apt)
[19:53] <Pelo> blind, wrap your mind around this one,  booting an actual windows partition + seamless
[19:53] <blind> Magus_X: oh, very true. I don't play very many games
[19:53] <axion> just be certain dpkg, synaptic, apt-get or the the update-anager is not running
[19:53] <krammer_> how do i know if a packet socket is enabled
[19:53] <blind> Pelo: thats what i wanted to do, actually.
[19:54] <Baby_Shambl3s> blind: youre better of making a 10GB partition with m$ XP for games or try it in wine, cedega, crossover
[19:54] <blind> Baby_Shambl3s: nah, i just play q3a, and its native, so im good
[19:54] <Pelo> blind, next version of vmware-server apprently,  I already have vmware server booting the XP partiton, I'M one step away
[19:54] <Chaotic_Descent> bleh. looks like I mounted AND changed permissions.
[19:54] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks for the help.
[19:54]  * Pelo is also one step away from not needing windows 
[19:54] <mophead> Why are var/lock and varrun/ 1009M in Ubuntu?  do they need to be that large?
[19:55] <ghaith> Magus_X, crossover games, wine and cedega will do.. but not for every game ofcourse
[19:55] <blind> Pelo: ah, i dont like vmware very much, i love virtualbox
[19:55] <Baby_Shambl3s> anyway i cna make terminal go to tray?
[19:55] <mophead> varlock^
[19:55] <Pelo> blind, how's vbox on resources compared to vmw ?
[19:55] <blind> very very light.
[19:55] <Pelo> Baby_Shambl3s, check under file > curent profile
[19:55] <blind> when i have nothing going on, it's like it's not even there.
[19:56] <axion> uk-linux-maagzien came with a ubuntu install-dvd with several box-bootable-images..
[19:56] <ghaith> vbox wouldn't run everything, it runs windows fine though, but i tried to install freebsd the other day and it did work
[19:56] <blind> when i boot up cs2, it's like i have cs2 running, but it doesn't go overboard on the virtualization
[19:56] <a1fa_> hey.. can DMA not be enabled on SATA drives?
[19:56]  * Pelo realy needs some Xserver genious to help him edit xorg.conf to make his 8button stick into  scrollmode with one click, one click on , one click off 
[19:56] <blind> ghaith: really? interesting.
[19:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pelo: it seems like not i'll need a graphics card supported with compiz to be able to pull fancy shell :(
[19:57] <Pelo> a1fa_, I'm almost sure dma and sata donT' mix
[19:57] <a1fa_> Pelo : i am stuck with slow timing speeds?
[19:57] <Pelo> Baby_Shambl3s,  ????
[19:57] <axion> tiem to go to sleep..
[19:57] <axion> work tomorow
[19:57] <Pelo> a1fa_,  I mean sata doesn'T need dma but  like I said I'm not sure
[19:58] <zeno> how do i rm the lock on package managers
[19:58] <zeno> i know im not running any
[19:58] <a1fa_>  Timing cached reads:   768 MB in  2.00 seconds = 383.53 MB/sec
[19:58] <craigbass1976> Perhaps this is an apache question... I've got a directory in the www directory.  If I navigate to folder/index.php then all is well.  If I just navigate to folder, I get some pop up box asking if I want to download a file with no name
[19:58] <Ben_Cs> hello
[19:58] <axion> the error message tells you where the lock file is located..
[19:58] <axion> rm it
[19:58] <Pelo> zeno, check in the system mornitor,  show all process,  dpkg apt and synaptic
[19:59] <Chaotic_Descent> what's the linux equivalent of windows file shortcuts?
[19:59] <axion> there are none
[19:59] <Pici> Chaotic_Descent: There are links, but its not exactly the same thing.
[19:59] <axion> fle shortcuts are a windows stupidity
[19:59] <craigbass1976> Chaotic_Descent, symbolic links
[19:59] <axion> links ahrd and soft links resemble them thought
[19:59] <axion> though
[19:59] <Ben_Cs>  i use hardy. installed ntfs-config. when i run it, when trying to add V's the apply button turns gray. i looked at the exec line and it says: gksu ntfs-config, but i don't get asked for a password. i tried gksudo. i get asked for pass word but still can't change a thing. please help!
[20:00] <craigbass1976> Chaotic_Descent,   ln -s path/to/real/file path/to/shortcut
[20:00] <Interflop> I'd like to know why my Broadcom wireless worked while running 8.04 on a Live CD but not when I install it
[20:00] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: in gnome you can also right click the desktop and select "Create Launcher"
[20:00] <FastZ> Ben_Cs: #ubuntu+1
[20:00] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks. I'm guessing I should have been putting my files in media instead of home then.
[20:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> Ben_Cs: hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[20:01] <krammer_> how do i know if a packet socket is enabled
[20:01] <zeno> Pelo: there is a dpkg running, i should kill it right
[20:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> FastZ: too fast for me :D
[20:01] <Chaotic_Descent> why is my partition called "lost+found"?
[20:01] <Pelo> zeno, yes
[20:01] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: why? what's the problem you're trying to solve?
[20:01] <FastZ> Baby_Shambl3s: I win!
[20:01] <a1fa_> lol
[20:01] <a1fa_> !lostandfound | Chaotic_Descent
[20:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lostandfound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:01] <Ben_Cs> ok, thanks
[20:01] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm just trying to figure out where files are supposed to go.
[20:02] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, your partiton is not called lost and found,  ext3 makes a folder like that for lost cluster when it fsck
[20:02] <axion> Chaotic_Descent, that's the lost and found directory that comes on every ext2/3 partition for filcheckling and save lost and fopund files
[20:02]  * shelmar # nas
[20:02] <axion> latser
[20:02] <axion> laters
[20:02] <lz1gjd> is there a kvpnc alternative for gnome desktop ?
[20:02] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: most people just use a package manager to install programs and then you get icons added to gnome applications menu automatically (or in some cases you can type new commands in the terminal)... as for *data* files, most people put those in their home directory
[20:02] <zeno> Pelo: great now it works thx alot
[20:03] <zeno> whats dpkg anyways
[20:03] <lz1gjd> actually its been the only tool that allowed me to get my work done
[20:03] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: if you go on google and do a search on ubuntu filesystem youll find links that explain what each folder is used for or how ubuntu/linux is structured
[20:03] <Pelo> zeno, another frontend for  apt
[20:03] <Chaotic_Descent> no, I mean like pictures and videos and text files.
[20:03] <mophead> Chaotic_Descent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[20:04] <{Firemaker}> [AMSG] æææ æææææææ From: dinner. Gone For: 10mins 59secs -BACK-  ææææææææææ
[20:04] <mophead> Chaotic_Descent: personal files generally go int he home folder
[20:04] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: there is actually linux distros which have a sane directory structure (like for instance http://www.gobolinux.org/ ) but to be honest... ubuntu is just so much better than anything else out there so I still recommend ubuntu :)
[20:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: pictures go in pictures your home file is yours you can structure it anyway you want  so it doesnt matter where you save stuff :D but things like mounting needs to be sent to the correct place
[20:04] <Pici> {Firemaker}: Please disable such scripts in this channel
[20:04] <Pici> !away > {Firemaker} (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:04] <Chaotic_Descent> oh... media is for removable media, not media files. :P
[20:04] <{Firemaker}> Okay, sorry
[20:04] <Interflop> Why does my Broadcom wireless card work when running from an 8.04 Live CD but not when I install it
[20:04] <krammer_> where can i find help for nebwies for wine
[20:05] <mophead> #wine
[20:05] <FastZ> lzlgjd: you can use kvpnc in GNOME as well as KDE
[20:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> Chaotic_Descent: o_0 oh simple mistake to make but than those need root access so you wont be able to use them normally
[20:05] <mophead> #winehq
[20:05] <ghaith> Chaotic_Descent, if you seperate your home partition during install, and keep everything there you will manage to keep every setting you have even after reinstallation, and that's a good practice
[20:05] <Chaotic_Descent> ... uhg... so... other partitions go in media, but if you put pictures in my partition ... see, I don't want to have to go clickity click half a dozen times just to get to my pictures.
[20:06] <ghaith> Chaotic_Descent, you can "Bookmark" locations, so you just click on places and get there
[20:07] <ghaith> in nautilus, drag the folder you want to bookmark to the left side, if the left toolbar doesn't show press F9
[20:07] <mophead> Chaotic_Descent: I put a linjk to my home folder in my "bar" thingy at the bottom
[20:07] <lz1gjd> FastZ: i know but id like to use a gtk toolkit tool
[20:07] <lz1gjd> FastZ: i mean pure gnome app ;)
[20:07] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: okay, so basically you might have some files in your home directory but if you have an external USB hard drive or maybe another partition (NTFS or ext3 or whatever) you will mount all of those partitions under /media so in that sense you might store music/docs/stuff in both the home directory and in some mounted volume under /media ... however, you won't typically navigate to "/media" when you save or open files there because GNOME will
[20:07] <NinjaElf> Chaotic_Descent you could make a symlink
[20:08] <FastZ> lzlgjd: gotcha, I'll help you look cuz I dont know one off the top of my head
[20:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> what is faster, elinks or w3m as a text browser?
[20:08] <B|ackDayz> hello :)
[20:09] <FastZ> lzlgjd: sheesh!  I just searched Google for "vpn for GNOME" and got about 308,000 hits
[20:09] <FastZ> lzlgjd: http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl=en&safe=off&q=vpn+for+gnome&btnG=Search
[20:09] <B|ackDayz> I googled AND looked on the ubuntu forum before I came here :D
[20:09]  * B|ackDayz gives himself a pat on the back
[20:09] <FastZ> !hi | B|ackDayz
[20:09] <ubotu> B|ackDayz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> B|ackDayz: nice way to start original now throw us the question :D
[20:09] <lz1gjd> FastZ: thx a lot ;-)
[20:10] <B|ackDayz> lol
[20:10] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, there should be no major performance difference between 2 console mode browsers
[20:10] <Chaotic_Descent> mnemo: because GNOME will what?
[20:10] <Pelo> B|ackDayz, congrats I guess you won'T need our help then
[20:10] <B|ackDayz> I'm running (attempting to) a live version of ubuntu, when I boot up it gives me the message /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off
[20:10] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: because GNOME will show all harddrives/partitions in the left part of each open/save dialog... and GNOME also has the "Places" menu with all your harddrives plus network folders you configure
[20:11] <B|ackDayz> they have a similar issue posted on the ubuntu forum
[20:11] <B|ackDayz> but it's not for live versions of the case.
[20:11] <FastZ> lzlgjd: no prob, hope you can weed through those search results and find something you can be comfortable with using
[20:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: hmmm just thought since w3m introduces color and elinks doesnt "or it could be my noobness" I thought elinks was faster and took less resources
[20:11] <B|ackDayz> so, apt-get, or reinstall ubuntu minimal wont work in this case.
[20:11] <Pelo> B|ackDayz, usb keyboard or mounse ?
[20:11] <B|ackDayz> no.
[20:11] <Pelo> hmm
[20:11] <B|ackDayz> laptop
[20:11] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, just try and get the answer by yourself
[20:11] <Nibblyn> Hi! How can I encrypt an archive? Is there something simple to use?
[20:12] <h00k> B|ackDayz: can it recognize your HD?
[20:12] <Pelo> B|ackDayz, and you say you looked up the error msg in the forum ?
[20:12] <Cew27> hey how can i tell if this live cd is 64buit
[20:12] <Lamego> Nibblyn, gpg
[20:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: yeha im testing them now since a few minuts ago i downloaded them
[20:12] <mnemo> B|ackDayz: I had that problem a few ages ago as well... I think it was because linux couldn't find my harddrive or something like that (not sure)
[20:12] <Nibblyn> Lamego: will check it, thanks
[20:12] <Pelo> Cew27, the .iso would have said   amd64
[20:12] <B|ackDayz> I dont need linux to find my hardrive though, it's a liveos
[20:13] <Cew27> im on the live cd how can i check from here
[20:13] <Pelo> Cew27, in anycase ,  puttin the cd in any comp will identify it with the name of the version
[20:13] <Pelo> Cew27, mount the cd
[20:13] <Cew27> im having tourble installing 64 bit hardy so ill install guts and upgrade in 3 days
[20:13] <FastZ> Nibblyn: here is a thread on UbuntuForums that suggests using AES Crypt  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385540
[20:13] <Cew27> Pelo: what do you mean
[20:13] <Nibblyn> FastZ: thanks for hinting
[20:14] <FastZ> Nibblyn: gpg will work well too as Lamego suggested
[20:14] <Pelo> Cew27, open places  > computer ,  see the cd drive ? right click  mount
[20:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> does defualt terminal allow different tabs withing one window as I would like to have irssi running and elinks in one terminal instead of separate terminals?
[20:14] <ghaith> Cew27, i think uname -a in a terminal would show that
[20:14] <h00k> B|ackDayz: did you verify the md5 on the CD before burning?
[20:14] <Cew27> says no volume
[20:15] <Chaotic_Descent> where does it show what version of Ubuntu I have?
[20:15] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, if you are refering to the gnome terminal, yes, File -> Open Tab
[20:15] <Cew27> i686
[20:15] <Lamego> Chaotic_Descent, on the terminal type: lsb_release -a
[20:15] <mnemo> Chaotic_Descent: check out "System :: About Ubuntu"
[20:15] <Pelo> Cew27, that should be a 32bit I beleive
[20:15] <Cew27> tcrap
[20:15] <B|ackDayz> h00k: I didnt burn cd. it's a ubuntu live disc.
[20:15] <Cew27> cheers
[20:15] <Chaotic_Descent> mnemo: nope. that doesn't work.
[20:15] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: o-0 huh... really? nice very nice will do that now
[20:16] <Pelo> mnemo, not sure about ubuntu gives the release,   fist tab of the system monitor does
[20:16] <B|ackDayz> should I copy the files and burn the image myself?
[20:16] <h00k> B|ackDayz: did you order it or download/burn the disc?
[20:16] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: im so newb so newb
[20:16] <B|ackDayz> I got it from a book
[20:16] <B|ackDayz> lol
[20:16]  * Baby_Shambl3s goes to a corner and sobs
[20:16] <h00k> okay...hmm.
[20:16] <Pelo> B|ackDayz,  the ubuntu live cd is an install cd
[20:16] <Chaotic_Descent> oh, there it is. it's halfway down the page. that's tricky. :S
[20:17] <Jahromeo> guys i need help fixing my grub installed windows and i now cant boot into ubuntu without the livecd
[20:17] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm so used to "about" windows having so little info that it's easy to see the version number. getting an entire help application really throws me for a loop. TMI.
[20:17] <Jahromeo> all the tuts i find online dont seem to help
[20:17] <Pelo> !grub | Jahromeo
[20:17] <ubotu> Jahromeo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:17] <Jahromeo> thanks
[20:18] <Pelo> Jahromeo, then google for the supergrub cd ,  dl and burn , it's a boot cd with menues to fix the grub install
[20:18] <B|ackDayz> thanks for the help, I need to get back to work. bbiab.
[20:18] <utodeb> bonjour,
[20:19] <oscar_> hi im noob and i wanna know how to play lineage 2 in ubuntu
[20:19] <Pelo> bonjour utodeb , il y a un canal francais a #ubuntu-fr
[20:19] <utodeb> oui je viens de m'en rendre compte ^^
[20:19] <utodeb> merci A+
[20:19] <Pelo> oscar_, sudo apt-get install wine , then ask how to install the game in #winehq
[20:19] <Magus_X> oscar_: There is some chance that L2 is supported via wine but i cannot guarantee
[20:20] <oscar_> ok thanks
[20:20] <Tatster> Hi all.  Just wondered if anyone knows of a Linux alternative to Yep for the Mac ?  (PDF organiser)
[20:21] <Pelo> Tatster, look up yep on wikipedia,  they often have list of comparable apps listed toward the bottom of the page
[20:22] <FastZ> Tatster: http://icculus.org/referencer/index.html
[20:22]  * Pelo is happy , he got his trackball to scroll in ubuntu
[20:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> hmmm didnt know i could use mouse to surf on a text browser WoW how fortunate of me even knowing that isnt how text browsers are supposed to work "i think"
[20:23] <Tatster> FastZ: cool, I'll have a look at that
[20:23] <Pelo> Baby_Shambl3s, I guess it depends if you are using a text brower in a console or in a terminal window
[20:24] <Tatster> Pelo: not much for yep on the wikipedia page, but a few links to reviews that may have suggestions for alternatives
[20:24] <oscar_> anyone know how to solve the problem of ubuntu 7.10 with dvd
[20:24] <FastZ> Tatster: looks like what you might be looking for.  I'm not familiar with what YEP is on a Mac, but you put pdf organizer in () so I looked for a linux pdf organizer thru Google
[20:24] <Pelo> oscar_, what problem is that ?
[20:24] <chicos> HELP! GRUB error 17!!!
[20:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> Pelo: im using it in gnome termianl but heck i aint complaining it just makes life really easy just wish i new command to open tabs :/
[20:24] <oscar_> i cant auto mount dvd
[20:25] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone here know how to use the youtube-dl function in terminal?
[20:25] <User2005> ok my software can't find the shared lib files ...What would I be doing wrong ? Any Thoughts ?
[20:25] <chicos> What do I do to fix GRUB error 17?
[20:25] <Tatster> FastZ: Yep is like iPhoto for Pdf's
[20:25] <h00k> chicos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[20:25] <h00k> chicos: google is your friend
[20:25] <Pelo> chicos, from the grub boot menu , select the correct line you want to boot,  type e to edit, find the root line, type e to edit ,   change the (hd0,0) line to match the partiton ubuntu is on ,    the numbering starts with 0 ,  then type enter and b to boot
[20:25] <chicos> h00k: until the Dell Bios screws you over\
[20:26] <Chaotic_Descent> well, thanks again for the help. I think I'm on my way to sorting out files.
[20:26] <h00k> chicos: what do you mean?
[20:26] <chicos> Pelo: No menu. Just a black screen that says "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17"
[20:26] <h00k> That
[20:26] <h00k> 's not BIOS chicos
[20:26] <Pelo> chicos, hold on , let me revew the grub menu
[20:26] <Pelo> manual
[20:27] <Pelo> oscar_, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[20:27] <User2005> Any reason my exe files can't find the shared libs to go with?
[20:27] <Pelo> chicos, error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[20:27] <Pelo>     This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[20:27] <chicos> h00k: The Dell Bios Thing has auto, but that doesn't seem to fix the problem.
[20:27] <chicos> I can't run off the CD either.
[20:27] <Pelo> chicos, did you mess with your partitioninng ?
[20:27] <chicos> Pelo: I can't run off the CD either.
[20:28] <chicos> It's a Dual boot that worked fine until I went off on Spring break.
[20:28] <chicos> Pelo: It's a Dual boot that worked fine until I went off on Spring break.
[20:28] <Qwexer> anyone have problems with f-spot? I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63934/ reinstalled it but still wont load
[20:28] <Pelo> chicos, can you boot windows ?
[20:28] <h00k> chicos: have you moved your partitions?
[20:28] <chicos> Pelo: Nothing... No bootloader
[20:28] <h00k> chicos: That can happen if your hdd is bad, also.
[20:29] <chicos> h00k: No, the particians are the same
[20:29] <chicos> hmmm/
[20:29] <Pelo> !grub | chicos in here you'l get instrucitions to "fix" grub
[20:29] <ubotu> chicos in here you'l get instrucitions to "fix" grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:29] <h00k> chicos: it won't boot off the LiveCD?
[20:29] <chicos> h00k: No, it just hangs. even off of edgy
[20:29] <Pelo> !mouse > Pelo
[20:30] <h00k> chicos: Where does it hang when you try to boot the CD?
[20:31] <h00k> chicos: and you're boot order is set correctly?
[20:31] <Pelo> later folks
[20:31] <chicos> h00k: The menu, I select "Startr or install Ubuntu", and then the screen goes blank, and the CDRom slows down after about a minute
[20:31] <FastZ> later Pelo
[20:31] <h00k> ^o) cool.
[20:31] <chicos> h00k: It worked before.
[20:31] <linkinxp> guys someone knows about xchat??
[20:31] <h00k> chicos: it's possible you have some bad hardware
[20:32] <snarkster> man xchat
[20:32] <FastZ> linkinxp: i use xchat, but im not an expert at it.  I might be able to help you if the question isnt too difficult
[20:32] <chicos> h00k: I'm going to install the Hdd into another comp as a slave.
[20:32] <chicos> brb
[20:32] <Exteris> linkinxp, same here
[20:32] <h00k> okay
[20:32] <User2005> nobodys answered my question yet ?
[20:32] <linkinxp> FastZ:  Exteris i install the one that doesnt have user list and its very basic , how i make the user list appear?
[20:33] <snarkster> User2005L restate question
[20:33] <FastZ> User2005: please give more detailed question...
[20:33] <FastZ> exe files and libraries...
[20:33] <FastZ> you on linux or windows?
[20:33] <User2005> why doesn't my software recognize the .so files ?
[20:33] <snarkster> more information
[20:33] <Ashfire908> about when on thursday will 8.04 be released?
[20:34] <User2005> have none...
[20:34] <Baby_Shambl3s> Ashfire908: you could get hardy now if you want
[20:34] <Exteris> linkinxp, install the normal xchat, not xchat-gnome
[20:34] <Lamego> User2005, could you be more description on your problem ? .so files are used by applications during runtime
[20:34] <FastZ> linkinxp: if it's the same xchat that I have, you just select the View menu drop down and then checkmark "User List"
[20:34] <snarkster> cant help you then
[20:34] <Ashfire908> Baby_Shambl3s: yea but it's the release canadate, not the actual release
[20:34] <Baby_Shambl3s> User2005: what software you using to recognise .SO files
[20:34] <linkinxp> Exteris:  grrr if i install it will it take the servers from the other one?
[20:35] <h00k> FastZ: xchat-gnome lacks "View" menu
[20:35] <FastZ> Exteris: nothing wrong with xchat-gnome..
[20:35] <LoOoD> Trying to setup kickstart. got pxe working, and can do a interactive install fine.. How do I create the seed to make it all hands off ?
[20:35] <Baby_Shambl3s> Ashfire908: after that you can just update it, what the difference it still works
[20:35] <h00k> we have IRC Edit Network Discussion Go Help
[20:35] <Exteris> FastZ, sorry, linkinxp preferences?
[20:35] <User2005> get back to you on this one...
[20:35] <FastZ> linkinxp: are you using xchat-gnome?
[20:35] <hakan> hi
[20:35] <linkinxp> yes
[20:35] <linkinxp> im changing now
[20:36] <FastZ> linkinxp: no need
[20:36] <Ashfire908> Baby_Shambl3s: aren't alpha/beta/RC updates usaly full of trouble?
[20:36] <FastZ> gimme a second and ill show you how to get the users list to show
[20:36] <egc> hi all
[20:36] <linkinxp> FastZ:  ok
[20:36] <FastZ> i use xchat-gnome on my laptop
[20:36] <snarkster> nature break
[20:36] <FastZ> just have to boot that up right fast
[20:37] <egc> if i have a library where i can't find a documented API, is there a command I can run on it to find out what functions it exports?
[20:37] <h00k> FastZ: I'd like to know, too, I'll follow along :)
[20:37] <titan_> I am running Ubuntu 7, when 8 comes out will it auto update to it or will I have to reinstall?
[20:37] <snarkster> back
[20:37] <linkinxp> FastZ:  ? :D
[20:38] <Ashfire908> titan_: you can update
[20:38] <titan_> cool thanks
[20:38] <snarkster> titan: should just update
[20:38] <FastZ> linkinxp: actually on xchat-gnome, there should be a "button" down in the lower left corner that should show you all the users in the channel
[20:38] <Ashfire908> titan_: btw the .10 and .04 are signauifant in the version number
[20:38] <h00k> titan_: you can 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[20:39] <titan_> 7.10
[20:39] <linkinxp> FastZ:  yes
[20:39] <FastZ> linkinxp: is that what you were looking for?
[20:39] <linkinxp> FastZ:  but im Oper so i need to see every1
[20:40] <snarkster> nappy time.. ttyl
[20:40] <linkinxp> ill install the other one
[20:40] <linkinxp> fastZ thanks :D
[20:40] <Phusion> hey there, running semi-latest 8.04 and everything is great, except when I run WinXP in VirtualBox, it will not capture my mouse
[20:40] <emil_> \nick Man007
[20:40] <Phusion> I suspect its an error in xorg.conf or something along those lines.. but not sure
[20:40] <Phusion> worked great in 7.10
[20:41] <FastZ_> linkinxp: yeah, as far as op tools go, you might be better off installing the regular xchat  sudo apt-get install xchat
[20:41] <FastZ_> quit
[20:41] <FastZ_> that doesnt work does it
[20:41] <h00k> FastZ_:  will it keep my settings;) ?
[20:41] <kelvin911> guys what is the different between double buffering and triple buffering?
[20:41] <kelvin911> in VLC
[20:42] <buggmaster> is there a package for mysqltuner
[20:42] <FastZ> hOOk: not sure about that.  i'm not familiar with what the differences between the settings for each of the two versions
[20:42] <h00k> FastZ: I'll try :)
[20:42] <buggmaster> nevermind, i found their homepage
[20:43] <h00k> heh. seems to.
[20:43] <_Rambaldi_> i am learning to write scripts in for bash (gedit) but i a getting a little frustrated counting lines to locate mistakes, is there a software for writing scripts that has line numbers?
[20:43] <FastZ> h00k and linkinxp: it appears that xchat-gnome and xchat both store settings in .xchat2 in your /home  so removing one and installing the other should allow you to use the settings from the previous version
[20:44] <crdlb> _Rambaldi_: gedit has line numbers. Edit > Preferences
[20:44] <unforsaken> anyone available to help on an old version of ubuntu?
[20:44] <mistapapa> hi all...
[20:44] <Lamego> !anyone | unforsaken
[20:44] <ubotu> unforsaken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:44] <_Rambaldi_> ctr i
[20:44] <chicos> No dice, hdd failure.
[20:45] <h00k> chicos, it was HDD?
[20:45] <Lamego> _Rambaldi_, gedit supports "Go to Line number"
[20:45] <h00k> FastZ, settings are saved between the two.
[20:45] <mistapapa> which version of flash player is the one with the best performance? SWFDEC or ADOBE or GNASH???
[20:45] <_Rambaldi_> i found that out
[20:45] <Lamego> _Rambaldi_, Search -> Go To Line
[20:45] <Qaldune> use adobe
[20:45] <Ic1> hi all
[20:45] <FastZ> h00k: so your old settings moved over to the new version of xchat?
[20:46] <mistapapa> Qaldune: okay so this ones performance is best under ubuntu?
[20:46] <Qaldune> mistappa: swfdec and gnash aren't reliable enough
[20:46] <h00k> FastZ, yes, autoconnects, passwds, etc safved
[20:46] <h00k> *saved
[20:46] <unforsaken> I'm running 5.04 and getting errors about rules when I try to compile programs...any ideas
[20:46] <FastZ> h00k: awesome good deal
[20:46] <Starnestommy> Qaldune: I've found that adobe and gnash are about as fast, but adobe works better
[20:46] <Qaldune> mistapapa: i don't know about speed, but you'll get a lot of trouble with swfdec and gnash with most websites
[20:46] <Auctionedllama> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[20:47] <Starnestommy> er,
[20:47] <Starnestommy> mistapapa: I've found that adobe and gnash are about as fast, but adobe works better
[20:47] <Qaldune> starnestommy, that's exactly what i meant
[20:47] <Starnestommy> Qaldune: I accidentally typed the wrong nickname
[20:47] <Qaldune> ok
[20:47] <Lamego> unforsaken, you need to be more specific, maybe a pastebin
[20:47] <mistapapa> okay... all i want is performance in youtube lol
[20:48] <mistapapa> so ich choose adobe for now... maybe later versions will be more reliable
[20:48] <chicos> We're just here in Ghosh's Linux class trying to learn Ubuntu
[20:48] <Baby_Shambl3s> how do I go to previous page in w3m cause i cnat find the command in the man page and left arrow key dont work?
[20:48] <tclineks> can screen automatically cycle through windows?
[20:48] <marko-_-> sound doesn't work... just worked minutes ago now not... what should i do ? i really don't wanna restart the x
[20:48] <Tabrish> somebody here knows for sure if Amarok runs under Gnome?
[20:48] <Starnestommy> Tabrish: it does, and most KDE programs do
[20:49] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, have you tried backspace ?
[20:49] <h00k> Tabrish, you can run it under gnome, yes
[20:49] <Tabrish> i'm trying to decide if i will use Ubuntu or Kubuntu =p
[20:49] <chicos> Anyone wants to talk to chicos
[20:49] <FastZ> Tabrish: Amarok should run under GNOME
[20:49] <Tabrish> StarfleetNDP and h00k: thx
[20:49] <Lamego> !ot | chicos
[20:49] <ubotu> chicos: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:49] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: nope have will try now
[20:49] <unforsaken> make: *** No rule to make target `src/sha1-mmx.S', needed by `aircrack-ng'.  Stop.
[20:49] <chicos> We're trying to learn something here.
[20:49] <peter___> Hi, I've a strange problem: I've made a symlink to a directory in the /usr/bin to /usr/X11R6, strangly when I type for example X (which is in /usr/X11R6) nothing happens, does anyone know what might be te sollution?
[20:50] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: nope backspace moves between lines but no previous page, hmmm thats really obscure
[20:50] <chicos> Any hotties?
[20:50] <FastZ> chicos: loads of hotties in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:50] <Phusion> anyone know why virtualbox won't grab my mouse for winxp guest OS in Ubuntu 8.04?
[20:50] <mistapapa> another more general question: shall i install all updates that update manager shows or do i have to be more careful concerning packages?
[20:50] <Lamego> peter___, "nothing  happens" ? or you get a command not found ?
[20:50] <peter___> command not found
[20:51] <Lamego> mistapapa, in general you should trust on updates, except for the very rare cases they break your system, in particular with kernel updates :P
[20:51] <Auctionedllama> Hi, I just installed hardy, and my GFX card is working full blast, but whenever I switch themes my bars will never change. They're always grey no matter what I switch too (the gui bars at the top) how do I fix this?
[20:51] <Lamego> peter___, ls -l yourlink
[20:51] <peter___> also when typing x and then tabbing, no binaries are shown
[20:51] <chicos> Our professor Ghosh thinks he knows Ubuntu, but he doesnt know squat
[20:51] <Lamego> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[20:51] <ubotu> Auctionedllama: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:51] <Redhammer> hi short question: how do I "reset my appearance manager" all the themes there seem to be unable to show a preview and are garbled, FYI I have already done a "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" which has solved most of my messed up conf but that bit is still eluding me
[20:51] <peter___> ls -l?
[20:52] <peter___> ls -ls then?
[20:52] <jac0b-w> does anyone know if the "The folder contents could not be displayed" error has been fixed in hardy?
[20:52] <Auctionedllama> lamego, sigh D:
[20:52] <mistapapa> Lamego: okay I'll trust these updates and hope that they won't break anything
[20:52] <FastZ> peter___: ls -l just shows a long listed format of the regular ls command
[20:52] <peter___> okay
[20:53] <peter___> Lamego: ow yes, stupid, sory, didn't see it, it points to: ../X11R6/bin
[20:53] <chicos> Anybody know Bill Gates?
[20:53] <BOBY> hello
[20:53] <FastZ> peter___: its like "ls" but it shows more information like file permissions, the file owner and group, etc etc
[20:53] <Lamego> peter___, ;)
[20:53] <peter___> Lamego: if I cd to X11 I also see the binaries
[20:54] <ihab> مرحبا
[20:54] <BOBY> hello
[20:54] <chicos> I kinda feel left out here
[20:54] <unforsaken> Lamego: make: *** No rule to make target `src/sha1-mmx.S', needed by `aircrack-ng'.  Stop.
[20:54] <unforsaken>  any ideas on what to do to fix that...it happens on anything...ircd, wireless drivers, etc.
[20:54] <Lamego> chicos, do you have a support question, if you do not, leave
[20:54] <Lamego> unforsaken, no idea, it misses the file, either from the source, or because it was not able to build it
[20:55] <adamb> I should be able to install a 32bit version of ubuntu server on a 64bit server, right?
[20:55] <Bluetoot1> hi dear people, ﻿where I can find hidd for my 8.04?
[20:55] <BOBY> hello
[20:55] <Lamego> adamb, sure
[20:55] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: cold hearted reply to chicos why not aks him to ask a question
[20:55] <sanozuke> hello
[20:55] <chicos> How do I change my layout using script commands?
[20:55] <adamb> Lamego: all I am loosing out on is addressable space, as in amount of memory I can put in, yes?
[20:55] <peter___> BOBY, just ask your question, it's too busy for hello
[20:55] <sanozuke> does anyone know about perl irc channel
[20:56] <FastZ> Baby_Shambl3s: chicos has asked questions then started to chatter... #ubuntu-offtopic is for that
[20:56] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, please read his chat in the channel!
[20:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> sanozuke: serach your irc client for comamnd list :/
[20:56] <Phusion> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and when I run virtualbox, I cannot grab the guest OS with my mouse, the screen pops up and I hit capture, but nothing happens
[20:56] <sanozuke> ok
[20:56] <hwilde> anybody seen this error before?  "EOF in empty packet"
[20:56] <jeannoel> i want to use xsan with hp 5200 with nas server but the scan is not reconized can you help me i m under ubuntu 7.1
[20:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: nah wont do i bet its soemthing stupid and annyoing and i have to scroll up :/
[20:56] <Lamego> adamb, yes, and, theoretically you would get more performance with 64 bits kernel/apps
[20:56] <DarkWolf> Hi everyone
[20:56] <FastZ> !hardy | Phusion
[20:56] <ubotu> Phusion: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:57] <Animortis> Hello
[20:57] <Phusion> ah thanks
[20:57] <peter___> Hi, I've a strange problem: I've made a symlink to a directory in the /usr/bin to /usr/X11R6/bin, strangly when I type for example X (which is in /usr/X11R6/bin) I get command not found.
[20:57] <adamb> Whats the max amount of ram i can have on a 32bit machine?
[20:57] <unforsaken> Lamego: ok thx...I'll just keep looking...I can't imagine it can't find a file in everything I am compiling...it just about has to be something to do with the system...either something wasn't installed or not installed properly...thx for the help all the same
[20:57] <DarkWolf> I am in need of some help if any of you lovely people could ablige
[20:57] <Lamego> peter___, uff, some minutes ago you noticed the link was pointing to the wrong place, is it already fixed :) ?
[20:57] <DareDevi1> Good afternoon does anybody knows how to use the Mozilla with java application
[20:57] <FastZ> adamb: depends on what your mobo can support
[20:57] <peter___> Lamego: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-04-20 19:53 X11 -> ../X11R6/bin
[20:57] <Lamego> unforsaken, the Makefile expects that .S file to be available
[20:58] <DareDevi1> Because I can not see any web with java applications
[20:58] <peter___> Lamego, I felt stupid because I miread ls for ln ;)
[20:58] <Lamego> peter___, that's your /usr/bin ?
[20:58] <Baby_Shambl3s> adamb: if m$ innt lying i think its 4GB max or was it 2GB?
[20:58] <unforsaken> it is and in the same location that the Makefile is looking at
[20:58] <peter___> Lamego, that's #root@/usr/bin: ls -l X11
[20:58] <DareDevi1> Y try to enter to a web wich needs java and I can't do it
[20:58] <Lamego> peter___, echo $PATH
[20:58] <unop> peter___, is /usr/bin/X11 in your $PATH?
[20:59] <sanozuke> were can i find Gcc on the ubuntu
[20:59] <DarkWolf> Does anyone know how to get the nvidia drivers to work on the new 7.10. it worked before the update. but i did a fresh install and updated from scrach
[20:59] <Wanderer> what's the name of the package to set timezone when the HW is set it's clock to UTC?
[20:59] <Lamego> you understand that you are linking a directory, no it's contents, right ?
[20:59] <unop> sanozuke, install the build-essential package
[20:59] <peter___> Lamego: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[20:59] <Baby_Shambl3s> sanozuke: search on google
[20:59] <Lamego> peter___, /usr/bin/X11 is not on your path
[20:59] <DareDevi1> Help please??
[20:59] <peter___> X11 is not in my path
[20:59] <Animortis> I have a problem. I have proFTPD installed and want it to work on boot. For some reason, it will not start for use on a boot. I have tried update-rc.d with defaults but it claims there's already links there. I can use /etc/init.d/proftpd start and stop from a raw boot to my desktop and they will BOTH work for some reason. Either way, however, I have to start the service to get it to work. Can anyone help me get started on fixing
[20:59] <Animortis>  this, or maybe automating the manual start and stop commands I'm doing?
[20:59] <DarkWolf> i have tryed Envy but had no luck
[20:59] <sanozuke> olways nice
[20:59] <Animortis> Wow sorry
[20:59] <peter___> So it should be, thanks guys :D
[21:00] <FastZ> Darkwolf: system>administration>restricted drivers manager doesnt allow you to install them?
[21:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> DarkWolf: 7.10 isnt new and there are plenty of tuts in ubuntuforums.org or you can wait for seomone to help you that has nvidia card
[21:00] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, if you dont know the answers, do not send people to google !!!
[21:01] <DareDevi1> Lamego could you help me please??
[21:01] <peter___> Now the following happens: X: error while loading shared libraries: libXau.so.6: cannot open....
[21:01] <Lamego> !anyone | DareDevi1
[21:01] <ubotu> DareDevi1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:01] <FastZ> Animortis: add proftpd to System>Preferences>Sessions
[21:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: sorry but the point is not that im sending people to goole but half of what they ask is in the forum or google but yeah np wont do that any more
[21:01] <Lamego> peter___, you dont have the libraries on the library search path, for those binaries
[21:01] <unop> peter___,  X requires you start it via startx not directly
[21:01] <DarkWolf> i have try restricted drivers, also editing the xconfg file to nvidia insted of nv
[21:01] <Animortis> FastZ, That requires a password and for me to log in to work. I want it on boot, not log in.
[21:02] <Lamego> peter___, what are you trying to achieve ?
[21:02] <mwe> I think the programs in /usr/bin/X11 have hard links in /usr/bin
[21:02] <DareDevi1> I allready did it
[21:02] <Lamego> unop, not is problem, he did some hacking already on its X dirs
[21:02] <peter___> Lamego, where do I modify the the library search path normaly?
[21:02] <peter___> Lamego, first I want the X server running, then I'd like to install Xfce
[21:02] <DareDevi1> My problem is that I can use the Mozilla with a java application
[21:02] <Lamego> peter___, /etc/ld.so.conf
[21:03] <ninjaslim> i have wireless network configured on my laptop, for some reason it doesn't connect anymore and the kentworkmanager application is different than the one i was using, i think it changed during updates, is there a way for me to reset the configuration of the wireless
[21:03] <unop> Lamego, i know, he was in earlier -- still, X is never usually started by calling it directly
[21:03] <DarkWolf> I'm sorry i am unable to send a privet message
[21:03] <Lamego> peter___, why didn't you used the repositories applications ?
[21:03] <DareDevi1> I am tryn to enter to a site that needs java and I can do it because a problem with java
[21:03] <peter___> Lamego, TNX very much, this took me so long!
[21:03] <Lamego> unop, well, youd didn't read the thread start ;)
[21:03] <FastZ> Animortis: maybe look at system>administration>services then..
[21:03] <peter___> Lamego, I'm building an LFS system ;)
[21:03] <FastZ> Animortis: I thought proFTPd starts at boot by default?
[21:03] <Lamego> peter___, ouch, so you are offtopic , try ##linux instead
[21:04] <BCBudLover83> does anyone here have a problem with harddrives automounting in ubuntu 8.04?
[21:04] <peter___> Lamego, by mistake installed Xorg 6.9, quiet old, but there's no make uninstall, and I'm not using a package manager
[21:04] <Lamego> FastZ, it does, at least from a repos install
[21:04] <Animortis> FastZ, It's supposed to but it doesn't for me for some reason. I don't know why, I didn't mess with it.
[21:04] <peter___> tnx anyway Lamego
[21:04] <ninjaslim> i have wireless network configured on my laptop, for some reason it doesn't connect anymore and the kentworkmanager application is different than the one i was using, i think it changed during updates, is there a way for me to reset the configuration of the wireless
[21:04] <peter___> I'm gone
[21:04] <DareDevi1> I have a problem with java in Mozilla, help pleae
[21:04] <Animortis> Lamego, ProFTPD doesn't for me, though. I don't know why.
[21:04] <kaffien> what is the realease schedule for ubuntu 8?
[21:04] <FastZ> Animortis: and you've tried removing and reinstalling proFTPd?
[21:04] <hwilde> anybody seen this error before?  "EOF in empty packet"
[21:05] <noodlesgc> BCBudLover83 ask Hardy related issues in #ubuntu+a
[21:05] <hwilde> kaffien, release candidate is out already
[21:05] <noodlesgc> BCBudLover83 #ubuntu+1
[21:05] <Lamego> !hardy
[21:05] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:05] <Animortis> FastZ, yes, even with a complete remove.
[21:05] <kaffien> odd i was just on the main page ...
[21:05] <AdrianStrays> I need some major help, please look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4760451
[21:05] <kaffien> ahh good good
[21:05] <Animortis> Is there a good way to get a process to reinit twice?
[21:06] <AdrianStrays> And suggest further instructions
[21:06] <kaffien> i really want to try that instant inegration with windows AD
[21:06] <ninjaslim> i have wireless network configured on my laptop, for some reason it doesn't connect anymore and the kentworkmanager application is different than the one i was using, i think it changed during updates, is there a way for me to reset the configuration of the wireless
[21:06] <FastZ> Animortis: i really wish i had more knowledge about proFTPd so i could help you, i had it installed at one time on my server but ive since switched to transferring files solely via SSH now
[21:06] <DareDevi1> help with mozilla and java
[21:07] <icedwater> Hi, I need help fixing my sound card... can't remember when I last played sound, but now I can't get anything out of it
[21:07] <icedwater> Except when I play a sound file inside audacity.
[21:07] <Lamego> Animortis, boot from the livecd and fix the sudoers privileges
[21:07] <Lamego> erm, permissions
[21:07] <kbrooks> AdrianStrays, what if people can't click on your link? Please summarize your post in  here.
[21:07] <Lamego> I meant, AdrianStrays
[21:07] <Animortis> Lamego, Er, explain a little more. Why?
[21:07] <icedwater> Totem and other web applications don't give me sound. :(
[21:07] <Animortis> Oh, wrong person?
[21:07] <Lamego> Animortis, sorry, wrong nick, was AdrianStrays
[21:08] <Animortis> k
[21:08] <dmi3on> do desktop effect work with intel 965 chipset ?
[21:08] <crdlb> dmi3on: that chip is blacklisted in gutsy, but not in hardy
[21:08] <AdrianStrays> Lamego, I don't have a livecd
[21:08] <Animortis> I've a question -- What's the remove command counterpart to update-rc.d? Like, remove-rc.d or something?
[21:08] <mwe> DareDevi1, I think you need to install sun-java6-plugin at for starters
[21:08] <sanozuke> thabks people
[21:08] <toastyspoon> hello all, I'm very new to Ubuntu, and have a request for help... I installed 7.10 the other day on my Acer Aspire 5050 laptop and to begin with the wireless internet was working... it now isn't and I can't understand why
[21:08] <Ic1> dmi3on,  they works
[21:08] <Animortis> Or is it just a careful rm command?
[21:09] <crdlb> dmi3on: it can be made to work in gutsy though
[21:09] <unop> Animortis, update-rc.d
[21:09] <mwe> Animortis, I think update-rc.d can remove links as well
[21:09] <Lamego> Animortis, man update-rc.d
[21:09] <Animortis> AH okay I see the option now
[21:09] <mwe> Animortis, I recommend rcconf, though
[21:09] <mluser-work> anyone know how I can force an fsck check on next boot?
[21:10] <FastZ> toastyspoon: do you know what brand your wireless chipset is on that notebook?
[21:10] <ninjaslim> i have wireless network configured on my laptop, for some reason it doesn't connect anymore and the kentworkmanager application is different than the one i was using, i think it changed during updates, is there a way for me to reset the configuration of the wireless
[21:10] <xukun> how can I play vob files with mplayer
[21:10] <askand> Hi, I have a question about that laptop harddrive bug.."sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Load_Cycle_Count"  the number it gives me increases with 5/minute or something.. is that bad?
[21:10] <Ic1> 2askand: no, it is not)
[21:11] <mwe> Animortis, if you remove links with update-rc.d the startup number is forgotten
[21:11] <icedwater> Is there anyone who can help with my sound card settings?
[21:11] <Animortis> mwe, Is that bad?
[21:11] <ironfoot_495> I have a iso (W2K 2000 Pro)that i'm trying to use on my vmware but it won't take i9t , Is there someone who is familiar with this installation?
[21:11] <AdrianStrays> I was attempting to have firestarter start at login, I attempted to do this by altering the sudoers file to allow firestarter start without prompting me for the admin pass.  I made the alterations, but found I couldn't save to that file.  I saved elsewhere, then overwrote the original with my copy.  Now I can't run any sudo commands, and in the prompt I am told that sudo should be "440" when it is in fact "0644"
[21:11] <icedwater> I'd love to give more details, but I really can't remember what happened, it's been a while since I've been living with no sound.
[21:11] <mwe> Animortis, sometimes I think
[21:11] <icedwater> I'll just wait here :)
[21:11] <icedwater> Thanks in advance for any help :)
[21:12] <Animortis> mwe, I'll look at rcconf first before I go doing any update-rc.d removes
[21:12] <mwe> Animortis, if B depends on A and later B is set to start before A
[21:12] <Johnson> man this has been such a bad distro of ubuntu
[21:12] <DarkWolf2008> #nvidia
[21:13] <AdrianStrays> Can anyone help me?
[21:13] <Animortis> mwe, I see. Well, maybe I broke it myself. I added update-rc.d for inadyn to keep up with my dynamic ip. If that's the case maybe a remove and restore would fix it.
[21:13] <hugleo_> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/screenshots/verScreenshot.php?codigo=12321
[21:13] <Animortis> I must reboot a few times. bbs.
[21:14] <askand> ﻿ Ic1: according to this, it is :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4754512&postcount=2
[21:14] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, try with gksu, there was someone reporting one of this days that you could use gksu in some scenarios where sudo was no longer available due to strict validations
[21:14] <ninjaslim> i have wireless network configured on my laptop, for some reason it doesn't connect anymore and the kentworkmanager application is different than the one i was using, i think it changed during updates, is there a way for me to reset the configuration of the wireless
[21:14] <AdrianStrays> lamego, as in gksu chmod 440 /etc/sudoers?
[21:15] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, you can start with something simpler, like gksu
[21:15] <Zeker> Hello gentlemen.  I was assigned to fix a computer that is to use linux, and I was given the computer and a disc containing a "partimage" file.  I was told that it's the image file that needs to go into the PC, but I have no idea how to do it.  I'm pretty much a linux novice, can somebody please help me?
[21:15] <FastZ> ninjaslim: what is kentworkmanger?
[21:15] <Lamego> and then, nautilus
[21:15] <ninjaslim> FastZ: knetworkmanager i mean
[21:15] <Lamego> just to check if it will run it bypassing the sudoers file check
[21:15] <FastZ> ninjaslim: i fat fingered that anyway...
[21:16] <ninjaslim> FastZ: KDE network managing module
[21:16] <AdrianStrays> lamego, I don't understand what the command gksu does
[21:16] <Lamego> Zeker, you will need a livecd with the partimage app, for the restore
[21:16] <ninjaslim> FastZ: what i realy need to know is how to reset all network config
[21:16] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, it will run a command with root privileges, sudo alike, but with a graphical prompt
[21:16] <daemon4> Is flightgear kind of screwy for everybody else?
[21:16] <_Net> I was listneing to music and all of a sudden xmms stopped. Now it says "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly You have the correct output plugin seleected"
[21:17] <daemon4> _Net: xmms crashes for me, too.
[21:17] <daemon4> That's why I use Amarok.
[21:17] <_Net> But Now I cant play anything else
[21:17] <Lamego> Zeker, check http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[21:17] <daemon4> _Net In any app?
[21:17] <_Net> like I i open a youtube video it plays 1-2 secs then freezes
[21:17] <Zeker> lamengo, I downloaded and used the system rescue cd 1.0.1 for linux and it has partimage.  The problem is though that it won't let me swap out the disc for the one containing the partimage file.
[21:17] <AdrianStrays> lamego, it doesn't appear to be working.  I run it, then type in "chmod 440 /etc/sudoers" which was suggested by someone else, but nothing appears to happen
[21:18] <DarkWolf2008> Is anyone familiar with fixing the nvidia graphics card issue in 7.10
[21:18] <Lamego> Zeker, anyway, probably your question would be better answered at ##linux, since it's not ubuntu specific
[21:18] <daemon4> _Net: Okay, then, I'm stumped.  Sorry.
[21:18] <_Net> Darn.
[21:18] <daemon4> What's your sound card?
[21:18] <rwarner-tsc-ats> Does anyone know the equivilent of cntrl alt del in Ubuntu to bring up the menu to shut down processes when the screen hangs and only the mouse pointer works
[21:18] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, ls -ltr /etc/sudoers
[21:19] <xukun> when I play video with mplayer I get xvinfo screen #0 no adaptors present. Any idea?
[21:19] <rwarner-tsc-ats> I am running an Xsession into a sun NMS that hangs my whol screen requiring a hard reboot.
[21:19] <Lamego> rwarner-tsc-ats, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[21:19] <AdrianStrays> Lamego, nothing
[21:19] <_Net> My soundcard has been working for the past 2 years. its not the soundcard cause i know it works, its gotta be something else that did to it
[21:19] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, please show me the ls output
[21:19] <Zeker> thank you lamengo
[21:19] <Lamego> Zeker, yw :)
[21:19] <Zeker> join #linux
[21:20] <_Net> Cause rythmic music player plays song
[21:20] <lol_h> on 8.04, will all home folders still be +rx to everyone by default?
[21:20] <Lamego> !hardy | lol_h
[21:20] <ubotu> lol_h: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:20] <AdrianStrays> !pastebin
[21:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:20] <zhuge0859> I had direct rendering before, but after I reinstalled compiz and xserver-xgl, i no longer do.  this is on an x61s with intel graphics.  how do I get direct rendering back?
[21:21] <_Net> Actually, ya, the rhythembox plays music fine
[21:21] <_Net> yet firefox freezes videos from youtbe or other sites and xmms don't play music
[21:21] <achandrashekar> hello i used gparted to format disk to ext3 how do you make it writable?
[21:21] <rwarner-tsc-ats> ctrl alt backspace logged me out, and ctrl alt f1 crashes the system. Hmm
[21:21] <lol_h> thx Lamego
[21:22] <AdrianStrays> lamego, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63939/
[21:22] <Aces|_> Does anyone know how to fix this error ¨The Composite extension is not available¨ when trying to change visual effects in appearance to custom?
[21:22] <Lamego> achandrashekar, have you mounted it ?
[21:22] <ironfoot_495> is there someone who could help me with installing W2K on an ubuntu?
[21:22] <ironfoot_495> using vmware
[21:22] <ironfoot_495> ?
[21:23] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, did you try to boot into rescue mode ?
[21:23] <achandrashekar> Lamego: I had it mounted..and then went to go save a file...i couldnt do that...so i unmounted and checked that it was ext3 in gparted..
[21:23] <achandrashekar> Lamego: im not sure what to do next.
[21:23] <Aces|> Does anyone know how to fix this error ¨The Composite extension is not available¨ when trying to change visual effects in appearance to custom?
[21:23] <Lamego> achandrashekar, you just to be sure the partition was mounted normally (rw), and that you have regular unix privileges to write to it
[21:24] <Lamego> need to be
[21:24] <AdrianStrays> Lamego, I am unsure if that is an option. I set up grub so there was zero time out when selecting the normal kernal. I would have to alter grub, which I don't know if I can do without sudo, and additionally, I can't remember how to alter grub
[21:24] <Aces|> Whoops sorry for the repaste
[21:24] <erUSUL> Aces|: which graphic card? do you have working 3d drivers?
[21:24] <Aces|> I just installed Nvidia drivers
[21:24] <Aces|> I do believe they are up to date
[21:24] <Jason> Is there a way to alter nvidia fan speeds for your GPU in ubuntu?
[21:25] <Daisuke_Ido> AdrianStrays, you can still get to the grub menu, you just have to hit esc right around the time it says loading grub stage 1.5
[21:25] <Animortis> mwe, I appreciate the help. It turns out it was a problem with my configuration file and I found the error after a verbose reboot. It's been fixed and I'm cruising now.
[21:25] <Johnson_> kook
[21:25] <AdrianStrays> Lamego, what would I do after getting to recovery?
[21:26] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, i am out of suggestions, you really should get an live cd :(
[21:26] <AdrianStrays> daisuke_ido, thank you
[21:26] <Aces|_> Hmm
[21:26] <cdm10> Can anyone recommend a good mirror for Ubuntu? the US one is being slow, and the MIT media lab one is stopping in the middle of downloads. The one selected by "find best server" is actually broken.
[21:26] <komputes> how can one cat a long string into your paste buffer?
[21:26] <Lamego> AdrianStrays, recovery will get you into a root shell
[21:26] <AdrianStrays> Lamego, thanks, I'll give it a shot from there
[21:26] <Lamego> cdm10, find one close to you, or test a few
[21:27] <erUSUL> Aces|: glxinfo | grep direct
[21:27] <wawrzyn181> wawrzyn181
[21:27] <wawrzyn181> hello
[21:28] <_moro_bana_> which app can i use to open a .chm document
[21:28] <TheFireSnake> xchm
[21:29] <Lamego> _moro_bana_, apt-cache search chm
[21:29] <Aces|> erUSUL it says direct rendering : yes
[21:29] <Lamego> erm, that search is not a good idea after all :P
[21:29] <erUSUL> Aces|: maybe your card is blacklisted
[21:30] <Aces|> Hmm
[21:30] <Lamego> there are some chm readers, I dont remember the names now :|
[21:30] <lordleemo> _moro_bana_: chm viewer   kchmviewer   xchm
[21:31] <zhuge0859> glxinfo suggests that i set LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose, how do i do that?
[21:31] <_moro_bana_> Lamego: aptitude search works.
[21:31] <Lamego> go with xchm
[21:31] <_moro_bana_> Lamego: ok, thanks
[21:32] <achandrashekar_> Lamego: okay..figured it out wrong permissions....and ownership...i guess gparted was run as root
[21:33] <J-Unit> where do I obtain the patch that fixes the no sound with devede (problem with mencoder i think)
[21:33] <achandrashekar_> Lamego: Im trying to recover a file from another machine...and have to mount that machine in chroot /mnt/sysimage..from there i need to put the file on to this drive. So if i change permissions to 777 recursively on the whole disk, am I good?
[21:33] <latitu> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:33] <latitu> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[21:33] <latitu> i dont see any app using it in the ksysguard............
[21:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> how can I copy a directory from /var/lib? I try sudo cp /var/lib/mpd/playlist ~/.mpd and this is what i get cp: omitting directory `/var/lib/mpd/playlists/'?
[21:33] <Lamego> achandrashekar, no, that is terrible
[21:33] <Dudeeee34> Hello.
[21:34] <jorgp> Baby_Shambl3s, use cp -pr
[21:34] <Lamego> do  not chmod 777 recursively
[21:34] <achandrashekar_> Baby_sShabl3s: the -r or -R dont remember is a recursive copy flag
[21:34] <Dudeeee34> Can anyone help me connect to my wireless linksys router?
[21:34] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, cp -a or -r
[21:34] <Baby_Shambl3s> jorgp: thanx but whats does -pr do compared to just using cp
[21:34] <Dudeeee34> I am on a laptop right now.
[21:34] <redwhitewaldo> ﻿which of the 2 plugin choices for firefox 3 beta 5 should i choose: 1) media plug-in for gecko browsers OR 2) MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla?
[21:34] <Lamego> Baby_Shambl3s, man cp
[21:34] <jorgp> Baby_Shambl3s, copies recursive aka directories
[21:34] <CVirus> How can I take a screenshot from a video ?
[21:34] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: ok will check in man
[21:35] <ice_cream> hi all, it's time for me to complain about ubuntu again =P
[21:35] <jorgp> Baby_Shambl3s, man cp
[21:35] <oxeimon> does anyone know of an utility to turn a space separated values file into a csv?
[21:35] <Lamego> ice_cream, this channel is for support, not complains
[21:35] <ice_cream> slim package (slim login manager) by default fails to start anything
[21:35] <achandrashekar_> Baby_Shambl3s: Its a recursive copy..
[21:35] <Dudeeee34> Can anyone help me connect my laptop to my linksys router?
[21:35] <nottha_k> oxeimon: sed? sed 's/ /,/g'
[21:36] <ice_cream> Lamego, yes, i dont just complain w/o specifics, so it's somewhere b/w complain and support ;)
[21:36] <Dudeeee34> wirelessly.
[21:36] <Lamego> :P
[21:36] <ice_cream> starting x through slim does not init any of my font paths
[21:36] <ice_cream> nor start my wm =/
[21:36] <ice_cream> i can safely do both with wdm
[21:36] <napi> what do I need to change so a user can't get out of their home directory? Or if they can, that they can't read contents of any files on the system?
[21:36] <oxeimon> nottha_k: what exactly would be the command?
[21:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, what's not working?
[21:36] <thevoidreturns> dudeeee whats your problem?
[21:37] <Dudeeee34> I don't know how to connect to my router wirelessly...
[21:37] <oxeimon> cat torus-350-96 | sed '//./g'      gives       sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression
[21:37] <Dudeeee34> I am a noob at ubuntu...
[21:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, what kind of wifi card is it?
[21:37] <thevoidreturns> have you used your network manager on the top bar?
[21:37] <nottha_k> oxeimon: sed 's/ /,/g' thespacesparatedfile > thecommaseparated file
[21:37] <Dudeeee34> its a broadcom wireless built in to my laptop.
[21:38] <oxeimon> nottha_k: [torsion:CHECK_DATA] 33) sed 's//,/g' torus-350-96 > torus-350-96.csv
[21:38] <oxeimon> sed: -e expression #1, char 0: no previous regular expression
[21:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, is the bcm module(or whatever the broadcom chipset needs) loaded?
[21:38] <Dudeeee34> Yes.
[21:38] <nottha_k> oxeimon: you are missing the spaces in s/ /
[21:38] <Dudeeee34> It was in the restricted drivers.
[21:39] <Dudeeee34> I installed it...
[21:39] <oxeimon> nottha_k: ahhh k thanks
[21:39] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, did you try the graphical util that thevoidreturns mentioned? can you see the linksys' SSID?
[21:39] <ryanakca> I have ssh access to server 'B'. On 'B', I have port 2227 open /locally/. How can I access port 2227 on 'B' from 'A' using an ssh-tunnel?
[21:40] <Dudeeee34> No i cant.
[21:40] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: is there a cp command i cna use that will copy from /var and change permission to my user instead of root?
[21:40] <Dudeeee34> I use to have windows where everything was easy.
[21:40] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, is the Linksys already configured?
[21:40] <Dudeeee34> But here its all so difficult
[21:40] <Dudeeee34> My router works with all my other laptops
[21:40] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, it's not if you know what you're doing.
[21:40] <Dudeeee34> my router is configured on this laptop though
[21:41] <Coder7> heya folks
[21:41] <Baby_Shambl3s> Lamego: nevermind worked it out
[21:41] <ecchi> trying to install ubuntu (Gutsy) onto Dell Optioplex 170L -- the DVD-Rom acts like its going REALLY slow (well its spinning a lot/accessing the contents).. but can't seem to load live Disk fully.. talking like 30 mins just to get part the of live Desktop loaded (with icons still slowly loading). Ideas?
[21:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, do you see your card with ifconfig or iwconfig?
[21:41] <Coder7> I'm am having a hell of a time trying to get OpenLDAP + TLS to work while testing 8.04, any ideas?
[21:41] <ecchi> I have tried the dvd-rom in another computer, and it installed Gutsy fairly fast
[21:41] <Dudeeee34> Where do i find iconfig?
[21:41] <Dudeeee34> Or the other thing?
[21:41] <noodlesgc> Coder7 #ubuntu+1
[21:42] <Coder7> noodlesgc: ;) thanks
[21:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, those are commands you would issue from a root console.
[21:42] <achandrashekar_> Baby_Shambl3s: Why not write a bash script that does that?  mkdir newdirectory cp -r /var /newdirectory then chown -R  whoever:whatever newdirectory
[21:42] <Dudeeee34> What are they?
[21:42] <Starnestommy> Dudeeee34: or in a terminal with "sudo" before the commands
[21:42] <noodlesgc> ecchi you could use the alternate cd
[21:42] <Starnestommy> Dudeeee34: they're utilities for managing internet interfaces
[21:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, sorry, this is Ubuntu!!
[21:42] <ecchi> alternate cd?
[21:42] <Dudeeee34> Ok
[21:43] <noodlesgc> ecchi it installs from a command line interface
[21:43] <noodlesgc> ecchi there should be a checkbox when you are downloading
[21:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, there should be a program in your menu called "term", "terminal", "console", "kterm" etc
[21:43] <ice_cream> gg
[21:43] <ryanakca> I have ssh access to server 'B'. On 'B', I have port 2227 open /locally/. How can I access port 2227 on 'B' from 'A' using an ssh-tunnel?
[21:43] <Dudeeee34> Yes I have used terminal
[21:44] <Dudeeee34> I use some commands like "sudo apt-get install..."
[21:44] <gustavo_> hey guys, Ubuntu cannot recognize my microfone. when I go to System->Preferences->Sounds->Test sound rec it gives me an error  ---> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:
[21:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, ok. "sudo ifconfig"
[21:44] <gustavo_> plus a message in my language
[21:44] <Dudeeee34> Alright it gave me the types of internet
[21:44] <Dudeeee34> like Eth1 and lo.
[21:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, that should list your network devices. "sudo iwconfig" should list all of your wireless devices
[21:45] <noodlesgc> gustavo_ what is the audio choice set to?
[21:45] <gustavo_> hey guys, Ubuntu cannot recognize my microfone. when I go to System->Preferences->Sounds->Test sound rec it gives me an error  ---> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:
[21:45] <Dudeeee34> It says eth1 eth0 and lo
[21:45] <Dudeeee34> Dose this mean i have wireless or no?
[21:46] <noodlesgc> gustavo_ what audio driver is that drop-down list set to?
[21:46] <thannoy> ryanakca: something "ssh accoutB@B -L 2227:127.0.0.1:2227"  should give you a local 2227 port on A which is bind to B:2227
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Dudeeee34, it could, you're going to have to be a little more specific
[21:46] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, do either of the eth ones look different? do you have any output from iwconfig?
[21:46] <Lamego> ryanakca, ssh server_a -L2227:server_b:2227
[21:46] <Dudeeee34> No not at all
[21:46] <Dudeeee34> they look the exact same.
[21:47] <Lamego> ops, I did a different interpretation
[21:47] <Auctionedllama> Hey guys
[21:47] <Auctionedllama> how do I add widgets ?
[21:47] <ryanakca> thannoy: thanks :)
[21:47] <noodlesgc> Auctionedllama widgets? to what?
[21:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, can you type "sudo lspci -vv" and copy the output to a pastebin?
[21:48] <mrkeishii> how do I download 8.04LTS using the Terminal?
[21:48] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii wget <url>
[21:48] <Auctionedllama> noddlesgc I have seen desktop widgets in screenys before.. how do I open them?
[21:48] <mrkeishii> what is the url
[21:48] <m3ltd0wn123> beep, by far the coolest command ever.
[21:48] <idg> hello fellow ubuntu people - my first time in IRC after using linux for years - very strange
[21:48] <zhuge0859> i think i broke direct rendering on my x61s (intel graphics) by installing xserver-xgl.  how do i get direct rendering back?
[21:48] <Auctionedllama> or get them etc, (I am running 8.04 fyi)
[21:48] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[21:49] <ryanakca> thannoy: wait, but A:2227 -> B:2227 goes through B:22 first, correct?
[21:49] <mrkeishii> what is the url
[21:49] <thannoy> ryanakca: yes, it is a tunnel through ssh which run on port 22
[21:49] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[21:49] <Dudeeee34> Where do i paste it?
[21:50] <ryanakca> thannoy: splendid, thanks :)
[21:50] <mrkeishii> thanks
[21:50] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii thats the x86 image btw.
[21:50] <Seven_Six_Two> >>anyone jump in? is there an official pastebin for the channel?
[21:50] <mrkeishii> thanks
[21:50] <Seven_Six_Two> lol nm...
[21:50] <ryanakca> thannoy: one more question, why is it that that command connects me to B:22 as if I went 'ssh B', instead of creating a tunnel?
[21:50] <mrkeishii> just what i needed
[21:50] <Auctionedllama> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[21:50] <Dudeeee34> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[21:50] <Dudeeee34>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30d9
[21:50] <Dudeeee34>         Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
[21:50] <Dudeeee34>         Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
[21:50] <Dudeeee34>         Latency: 0
[21:50] <FloodBot1> Dudeeee34: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Dudeeee34, the pastebin is in the channel topic...
[21:50] <mrkeishii> I just wanted to try it out before Wednesday
[21:51] <mrkeishii> Well How do you install it after?
[21:51] <gustavo_> noodlesgc: I tried all of them
[21:51] <mrkeishii> Well How do you install it after?
[21:52] <gustavo_> noodlesgc: alsa, sac92xxx, oss, sis3054
[21:52] <gustavo_> ...
[21:52] <Laptop765> does anybody happen to know of a workaround to install the tpb package (thinkpad buttons) without removing ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop?
[21:52] <thannoy> ryanakca: it does both. This command connect to remote ssh server (B:22) and ask this server to tunnel its local port 2227 through the same socket that the one used to connect B:22 (if I have understood your last question)
[21:52] <petterah> hello all :) will hardy still keep the human theme, or will it use the new gtk theme with the orange vertical bar?
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat!keys
[21:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat!keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[21:52] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[21:53] <Baby_Shambl3s> how can i copy an error log but at the same time take away root ownership i.e. cp --no-preserve ownership /var/log/mpd/error.log ~/.mpd but the file is still owned by root which is not whats meant to happen?
[21:53] <noodlesgc> petterah hardy has Human
[21:53] <yggwork> hello, i am suspecting abad drive on my laptop
[21:53] <yggwork> how can i force a total hard fsck on it ? i have to do it when it reboots i think
[21:53] <petterah> the good ol' human? nice, i didn't like the new gtk theme with the orange bar.. but its easy to change though..
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[21:53] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[21:53] <ryanakca> thannoy: OK. Sorry, what's happening with the command is the same thing had I gone 'ssh B'. It doesn't appear to be creating a tunning going A:2227->B:22->B:2227
[21:54] <ryanakca> thannoy: it just creates a plain ssh connection for me
[21:54] <thannoy> ryanakca: and yes, while this tunnel is running, you are on the ssh prompt, as if you do not use -L. You should got the prompt and the tunnel should be running.
[21:54] <Hy71194> !nfts
[21:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:54] <Hy71194> !ntfs
[21:54] <ryanakca> thannoy: ok, thanks :)
[21:55] <NIKK> anyone there
[21:55] <NIKK> i gotta random question
[21:55] <gligorhoria> hellow
[21:55] <noodlesgc> NIKK 1345 people here
[21:56] <NIKK> if you took out a mobile contract and didnt pay the monthly line rental...woudl this be classed as "fraud"?
[21:56] <gligorhoria> how can i check for packages, i want a list of all the php-pear
[21:56] <NIKK> ...not that i indend to do this :P
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> NIKK, yes it is fraud.. federal.. and yes ot
[21:56] <noodlesgc> NIKK not allowed to talk about that here
[21:56] <ompaul> !offtopic | NIKK
[21:56] <ubotu> NIKK: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:56] <Baby_Shambl3s>  how can i copy an error log but at the same time take away root ownership i.e. cp --no-preserve ownership /var/log/mpd/error.log
[21:56] <gligorhoria> something like dpkg -l | grep php-pear but to check the only repositories for the packeges
[21:56] <Baby_Shambl3s>                        ~/.mpd but the file is still owned by root which is not whats meant to happen?
[21:56] <Baby_Shambl3s>  how can i copy an error log but at the same time take away root ownership i.e. cp --no-preserve ownership /var/log/mpd/error.log
[21:56] <Baby_Shambl3s>                        ~/.mpd but the file is still owned by root which is not whats meant to happen?
[21:56] <FloodBot1> Baby_Shambl3s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> oops
[21:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> sorry
[21:57] <Ghaith> i know it wouldn't really matter, but does anyone know a better looking debuger then ddd?
[21:57] <TimS> Could someone tell me what application is being used to monitor the temperatures in this picture? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v125/ticlo/april_desktop.png
[21:57] <NIKK> cool thats all i wanted to know
[21:57] <gustavo_> hey guys, Ubuntu cannot recognize my microfone. when I go to System->Preferences->Sounds->Test sound rec it gives me an error  ---> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:
[21:57] <Hy71194> so ubuntu wont mount my NTFS hard drive :/
[21:57] <NIKK> thahks
[21:57] <Lamego> Ghaith, gdb ?
[21:57] <Hy71194> how do i mount it/?
[21:58] <askand> My harddrive have about 7 loadcycles per minute..that is 420/hour...and if a harddrive lifetime is 600000 loadcycles that gives me 1428 hours=59 days... :(
[21:58] <Ghaith> Lamego, better gui :p
[21:58] <noodlesgc> askand you need to something with hdparm
[21:58] <subopt> Is there a repository of alternate versions of gcc/g++ for gutsy, aside from the ones that show up in synaptic? (I need to build an app that needs one of several versions of gcc/g++ besides what i see in synaptic.)
[21:58] <RodGo> how can i change an account fullname information=
[21:59] <noodlesgc> askand dont know what though, i read about it once
[21:59] <askand> ﻿noodlesgc: yea I found that but that did not help : /
[21:59] <Lamego> subopt, no
[22:00] <Lamego> subopt, that must be a very old app
[22:00] <noodlesgc> TimS the computertemp applet
[22:00] <gustavo_> hey guys, Ubuntu cannot recognize my microfone. when I go to System->Preferences->Sounds->Test sound rec it gives me an error  ---> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:
[22:00] <TimS> Okay =]
[22:01] <puzzz> hi
[22:01] <over_flow> (join #xandros
[22:01] <puzzz> exit
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gustavo_, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[22:02] <ryanakca> thannoy: ok, another question. How can I background that tunnel, because I'm going to have programs on A connect to B:2227 through it?
[22:02] <yggwork> 2
[22:02] <wubrgamer_> ryanakca ssh?
[22:02] <gustavo_> Jack_Sparrow thanks, I will try
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:02] <yggwork> uh sudo shutdown -F -r now didnt run fsck on boot. is there a nother way ?
[22:02] <ryanakca> wubrgamer_: yes
[22:03] <Lamego> yggwork, using a live cd ?
[22:03] <yggwork> no
[22:03] <yggwork> oh
[22:03] <yggwork> maybe
[22:03] <yggwork> thats a good idea i guess
[22:03] <serge87> hello all
[22:03] <ryanakca> wubrgamer_: original question being ``I have ssh access to server 'B'. On 'B', I have port 2227 open /locally/. How can I access port 2227 on 'B' from 'A' using an ssh-tunnel? That's to say A:2227->B:22->B:2227 ''
[22:03] <serge87> what's better to install, xfce or xubuntu-desktop ?
[22:03] <thannoy> thannoy: to background it, you will have to use RSA authentication for example (to not have to type password) and to launch it as a fork or with '&' at the end of a command line
[22:04] <Arek> How do I remove an sda shortcut from desktop?
[22:04] <yassine> hi is there a way to create a directory rekursivly something like mkdir -option /new/directory/test ?
[22:04] <ryanakca> thannoy: I have my ssh-key on the server, yes. However, 'ssh -f ryanak.ca -L 2227:localhost:2227' gives me 'Cannot fork into background without a command to execute.
[22:05] <woobit> arek: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[22:05] <Arek> woobit: thx
[22:06] <isaque> hello folks
[22:06] <woobit> :)
[22:06] <woobit> did it myself 5mins ago
[22:06] <thannoy> ryanakca: how are you tryong to "fork into background"? with fork() C command?
[22:06] <isaque> anybody has a EtherExpress card?
[22:06] <Tombombidil> question: I'm currently helping a friend recover data from a windows laptop using the latest ubuntu live cd. where does the livecd mount the local harddrive?
[22:06] <gustavo_> Jack_Sparrow : I have done that
[22:06] <bews1> In hardy, ﻿None of the scripts in /etc/acpi/suspend.d are getting run when I suspend!  Is this a known issue?  (nobody listening over in #ubuntu+1, it seems)
[22:06] <Lamego> gustavo_, under /media
[22:06] <speps> hey guys i'm getting mad with gstreamer. I can play in a good way vbr mp3 with any software based on gstreamer...it bumps. Instead i can play those files with xmms, audacious etc...any solution?i'm using gstreamer 0.10.Please HELP THANKS
[22:07] <gustavo_> Jack_Sparrow : http://pastebin.ca/992470
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gustavo_, I dont see you in #Alsa with the link to your config?
[22:07] <mrkeishii> how do you install XMMS?
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[22:08] <ryanakca> thannoy: eh? Why would I use fork() in C? *doesn't even know C* -f is to background the ssh connection, isn't it?
[22:08] <BobSapp> I installed some packages, but now my hard drive is full, how do I remove those packages that have been downloaded?
[22:08] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii sudo apt-get install xmms
[22:08] <mrkeishii> okay
[22:08] <mrkeishii> thanks
[22:09] <xet7> Bob: sudo apt-get clean
[22:09] <BobSapp> thanks xet7
[22:09] <christopher> can someone help me setup my wireless card?
[22:09] <mrkeishii> noodlesgc: but does this download the latest xmms?
[22:09] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii you mean xmms2?
[22:09] <gustavo_> Lamengo, what did you mean?
[22:09] <mrkeishii> yeah
[22:09] <CJS3141> I'm using Ubuntu inside VirtualBox with the host OS as Windows. If I want to automatically mount a shared folder when starting up Ubuntu, what is the best way of doing this? BTW to mount the volume I have to use a special command "mount.vboxsf" instead of a normal "mount", so I don't know if I can put that in my /etc/fstab. Any ideas?
[22:09] <thannoy> ryanakca: oh, yes. (didn't know about -f). But it seems -f want a command, so you should try not use it and append a "&" and the end of the comand line for example (to have the ssh connexion as a job and not lost prompt))
[22:10] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii no sudo apt-get install xmms2
[22:10] <mrkeishii> okay
[22:10] <mrkeishii> thanks
[22:10] <ryanakca> thannoy: ok, thanks :)
[22:11] <Tombombidil> newbie question: can 7.10 mount ntfs drives?
[22:11] <LSG> tombombidil Yes
[22:11] <Tombombidil> LSG: Thanks
[22:14] <gogeta> :-/
[22:15] <Tombombidil> another newbie question: I need to mount the primary partition of my HDD, which Gparted lists as lacking a mount point (the recovery drive is listed as mounted in /media). what do I do?
[22:15] <gogeta> Tombombidil sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/wherever
[22:15] <muiko> I'm getting poor video/dvd playback at the moment, when I run XVINFO I get "no adaptors present"  Does anyone know what could be wrong?
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !intelhda
[22:15] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:15] <gogeta> !mount
[22:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:16] <Tombombidil> Gogeta: Will sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 work?
[22:16] <christopher> why are these broadcom wireless cards such a pain
[22:16] <gogeta> Tombombidil if you made a dir called hda1 in mnt yes
[22:16] <gogeta> Tombombidil ubuntu likes to use /meda/wherever
[22:16] <noodlesgc> christopher because the drivers are proprietary
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Tombombidil, did you create a mount point
[22:17] <gogeta> Tombombidil so make its /media/hda1
[22:17] <christopher> how do i get it to work then? is it possible
[22:17] <Tombombidil> Gogeta: when I do that command, I get a message stating that mount is denied because the drive is in use
[22:17] <gogeta> Tombombidil then its mounted
[22:17] <Tombombidil> I created the mount point /mnt/hda1
[22:17] <opensuse> Hi, I just installed openSUSE on a seperate partition then my ubuntu distro and I accidently installed the boot loader while installing. Is there a way to change it so that Ubuntu's GRUB is used?
[22:17] <Tombombidil> oh, it's mounted? where do I find that?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Tombombidil, like gogeta  says mkdir /media/hda1    first   then /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[22:18] <gogeta> Tombombidil probly in media dir
[22:18] <noodlesgc> christopher you need the bcm43xxx-fwcutter package
[22:18] <christopher> where can i find that?
[22:18] <Tombombidil> only the Recovery drive is listed in the media drive
[22:19] <noodlesgc> christopher sudo apt-get install bcm43xxx-fwcutter
[22:19] <gogeta> Tombombidil is that hda1
[22:19] <gogeta> Tombombidil 1 is just a number
[22:19] <gogeta> Tombombidil it can be hda9
[22:19] <gogeta> lol
[22:19] <FloodBot1> gogeta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <gogeta> Tombombidil just depends on how many partations you have
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> gogeta, agreed the mount point is just a name you create
[22:20] <LSG> gogeta: Couldn't it be sda? Or was that GRUB's way of naming partitions? I forget...
[22:20] <Speedy> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu and now my MS office disk wont work with it, is this  a bug?
[22:20] <gogeta> Tombombidil can be sda yep
[22:20] <christopher> ok it's downloading and extracting now
[22:20] <gogeta> Tombombidil but hda still works
[22:20] <LSG> Speedy: o.o
[22:20] <gogeta> oops wrong name
[22:20] <christopher> it's done extracting
[22:20] <Tombombidil> Gparted lists the available partitions as hda1 (67 Gb, the drive I need to mount), hda2, the recovery drive, and some unallocated space
[22:21] <tzd> how do i add rss feeds from Firefox to akregator please?
[22:21] <unop> Speedy, eh? linux does not understand windows installers .. you'll need to use wine or something like it to install office
[22:21] <LSG> gogeta: I'll ask you instead of telling Tombombidil cause i'm not sure, but how about trying to unmount the partition and mounting it back?
[22:21] <gogeta> Tombombidil normaly ubuntu will call it just that 64gb drive
[22:22] <christopher> noodlesgc, it's done thanks for your help btw
[22:22] <gogeta> Tombombidil clicking that in natuls should take you there
[22:22] <seabeast> unop: it's a troll, don't feed it
[22:22] <noodlesgc> christopher no problem
[22:22] <christopher> noodlesgc, now do i need to reboot?
[22:22] <Tombombidil> gparted claims that the 60 Gb drive is unmounted
[22:22] <noodlesgc> christopher yes i think so
[22:22] <gogeta> Tombombidil agreed try sudo umount /dev/hda1 then mount it again where you would like it
[22:23] <christopher> noodlesgc, ok then i'll be back soon ;)
[22:23] <unop> seabeast, is that an order?
[22:23] <Tombombidil> same result
[22:23] <mrkeishii> How do you install a Screensaver?
[22:23] <yggwork> odd, is there a way to fsck swap space ?
[22:23] <LSG> Tombombidil: Still "in use"?
[22:23] <Tombombidil> it successfully unmounts, then when I try to remount it I get still in use
[22:24] <mrkeishii> How do you install a Screensaver?
[22:24] <gogeta> Tombombidil it sounds like ubuntu was it someplace
[22:24] <seabeast> unop: obviously not, just an advice on how to use your energy more efficiently
[22:24] <gogeta> Tombombidil have you checked in media fully
[22:24] <Tombombidil> could this be the result of not properly shutting the computer down?
[22:24] <seabeast> :)
[22:24] <olegkorneit> is there a built-in IRC in ubuntu?
[22:24] <gogeta> Tombombidil it might be called windows
[22:24] <LSG> gogeta: Haha
[22:25] <Exteris> olegkorneit, pidgin
[22:25] <Tombombidil> there's only one thing there, RECOVERY.
[22:25] <mrkeishii> How do you install a Screensaver?
[22:25] <unop> seabeast, thanks but i've been in here long enough to know that people do make presumptions like that :)
[22:25] <LSG> Exteris: Pidgin has IRC??
[22:25] <craig> what's the best option to get photoshop up and running, 1. install wine 2. use vmware
[22:25] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii just go into synaptic and search for screensaver
[22:25] <gogeta> LSG thats what mine did be defult
[22:25] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[22:25] <gogeta> LSG 32gb drive i clicked it then it got named windows without me doing anything
[22:26] <LSG> gogeta: Creepy... mine have always been hda# or sda#
[22:26] <chamuco> Hi I hooked a new HD and my boot is messed up now i get to a screen that says GDM could not write to HD possibly out of space I press OK and says couldn't start xserver
[22:26] <chamuco> I have dapper
[22:26] <gogeta> LSGim just talking the mount name not dev lol
[22:26] <chamuco> i had to start up my winblows
[22:27] <mrkeishii> yeah, but which do i install? I downloaded a screensaver from Gnome-look.org and I want to install the screensaver I downloader
[22:27] <LSG> gogeta: Haha, i was hoping you were =<
[22:27] <mrkeishii> downloaded*
[22:27] <gogeta> LSG hey thers a idea
[22:27] <gogeta> LSG looks in /dev/hda1 it should take him wherever its mounted
[22:27] <mrkeishii> yeah, but which do i install? I downloaded a screensaver from Gnome-look.org and I want to install the screensaver I downloaded
[22:27] <LSG> gogeta: But...is the dir. even there?
[22:28] <gogeta> LSG yea the dev dir
[22:28] <Tombombidil> there's hda1 and hda2 in the dev dir
[22:28] <noodlesgc> mrkeishii not sure how, but this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56732&highlight=screensaver+install
[22:28] <gogeta> Tombombidil well you whant hda1 there should be your things
[22:28] <mrkeishii> thanks again
[22:28] <mr_boo> is the nvidia 8800gt supposed to work with ubuntu?
[22:29] <LSG> mr_boo: Mine does
[22:29] <Tombombidil> gogeta: yes, I just want to recover the data on hda1.
[22:29] <sivel27> hello everyone
[22:29] <bent_> Hey again again #ubuntu. Was hoping someone could help me get my broadcom card to work before I go out and buy a USB wireless card. It's a BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02). It dosen't have an interface I can find, but it is detected by lspci. Ive tried 4 different how-tos on the forums, and 2 wiki entries... between 5 clean installs. The b43 drivers do not work (i.e !broadcom is a nogo.)
[22:29] <gogeta> Tombombidil well is your files there
[22:29] <mr_boo> LSG: how did you install it?
[22:29] <mrkeishii> nah doesn
[22:29] <gogeta> Tombombidil if they it means its mounted
[22:29] <mrkeishii> does not help
[22:29] <christopher> bent_, good luck.. i've been trying for a week
[22:29] <sivel27> does anyone know, by chance, if the repos are slow bandwidth-wise today?, or is it just my nic?
[22:30] <LSG> mr_boo: I just got the restricted drivers and it worked perfectly. Are you having problems with it?
[22:30] <Tombombidil> oh, what you're saying is, the livecd treats hda1 as its filesystem?
[22:30] <bent_> christopher: Thanks, but I'm soon going to end up getting a usb card... or something. Maybe.
[22:30] <mr_boo> LSG: it starts in low graphics mode
[22:30] <gogeta> Tombombidil oh your live
[22:30] <Tombombidil> yeah
[22:30] <christopher> bent_, that is what i'm considering but i want to make sure it's going to work before i buy it
[22:30] <LSG> Tombombidil: I didn't know you were on a live session..
[22:30] <Tombombidil> sorry, I thought I made that clear
[22:30] <mr_boo> LSG: i tried to install this, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.04-pkg1
[22:30] <gogeta> Tombombidil haha yea i think it does
[22:31] <_Rambaldi_> jaffarkel, hi
[22:31] <rinaldi_> hi, I was reading up on the ubuntu website about the mobile version. How does that work? Is it available in any current devices?
[22:31] <LSG> mr_boo: Why not the restricted drivers? They seem to work just fine.
[22:31] <linkmaster03> How can I find the exact model of my Realtek High Definition Audio sound card?
[22:31] <mr_boo> LSG: where do i get them?
[22:31] <Tombombidil> I'm terribly sorry, I thought I said that in my first question.
[22:31] <gogeta> Tombombidil the the letterings gonna differ
[22:31] <christopher> bent_, my light doesn't even come on does yours
[22:31] <LSG> mr_boo: Are you using Gnome?
[22:31] <mr_boo> LSG: yup
[22:31] <gogeta> Tombombidil try using hda2
[22:31] <crimsun> linkmaster03: look in /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[22:32] <Tombombidil> really? Gparted lists hda2 as the recovery drive
[22:32] <gogeta> or sda1
[22:32] <bent_> christopher: Nope, not on my tx1308nr ... And nothing is happening.
[22:32] <Tombombidil> I tried sda1 first
[22:32] <gogeta> the hda3
[22:32] <LSG> mr_boo: Ok, then go to System--Administration--Restricted Drivers Manager
[22:32] <BobSapp> wow
[22:32] <BobSapp> someone using my old handle
[22:32] <Tombombidil> there's no hda3 listed, will that work?
[22:32] <gogeta> yea hda3 should be it
[22:32] <mrkeishii> how do i install files from my desktop using terminal?
[22:32] <gogeta> Tombombidil live recovery and win
[22:32] <gogeta> Tombombidil in that order
[22:33] <Tombombidil> I'm sorry, I don't understand what you meant.
[22:33] <gogeta> Tombombidil your partation order
[22:33] <LSG> Tombombidil: Are you trying to burn the files from that partition to a cd/dvd or transfer them to another partition?
[22:33] <Tombombidil> Oh!
[22:33] <linkmaster03> crimsun: the card0 folder isn't there. My sound card does not currently work at all on Ubuntu therefore I am trying to find the exact model to get the drivers
[22:33] <mr_boo> LSG: i don't have such a manager
[22:33] <Tombombidil> transfer them to an external fileserver
[22:33] <LSG> mr_boo: Uh...what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:34] <mr_boo> LSG: gutsy
[22:34] <crimsun> linkmaster03: then start with `lspci -nv|grep -A1 0403'
[22:34] <LSG> mr_boo: That's...odd. It should be there. Are you sure you looked in the right menu?
[22:34] <gogeta> Tombombidil hda3 should be what you need
[22:34] <gogeta> Tombombidil im suprised the live cd isnt doing this for you
[22:34] <mr_boo> LSG: ah, i think i found it
[22:34] <Tombombidil> ok, I'll give it a shot
[22:35] <sivel27> anyone else having slow repo download ?
[22:35] <Tombombidil> I was also surprised, it might be, where should I look to find out?
[22:35] <mrkeishii> how to install a file from desktop using terminal???
[22:35] <mr_boo> LSG: it says stuff about third party drivers
[22:35] <christopher> bent_, i think i'm just going to give up ever thinking i can get my wireless to work it's just to frustrating
[22:35] <LSG> mr_boo: Yeah, agree to it and let it download them
[22:35] <gogeta> Tombombidil open places home
[22:35] <gogeta> Tombombidil and in the left sidebar you should see all your harddisk
[22:35] <Auctionedllama> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[22:35] <bent_> christopher: agreed. But wireless is mission critical if I ever want to use internet... for most of my day.
[22:35] <LSG> mr_boo: You'll need to reboot the system after it's done.
[22:36] <LSG> gogeta: Why didn't i think of that....?
[22:36] <mr_boo> LSG: it this all to it?
[22:36] <linkmaster03> crimsun: this comes up: 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
[22:36] <linkmaster03>         Subsystem: 1179:ff01
[22:36] <christopher> bent_, same here.  that's the entire point of a laptop.
[22:36] <jaffarkel> :#ubuntu+1 j
[22:36] <gogeta> LSG :P
[22:36] <mrkeishii> how to install a file from desktop using terminal???
[22:36] <LSG> mr_boo: Should be, yeah. Reboot and see if it worked.
[22:36] <mr_boo> cool
[22:36] <mr_boo> be back
[22:37] <olegkorneit> non-ubuntu --- im trying to copy over important files onto an external drive (connected through USB) which has 255GB free space left. Im trying to through a video over onto it (4gb) and its saying there isnt enough space and isnt letting me transfer. any ideas?
[22:37] <bent_> christopher: If you have the same computer as me... well, atleast everything else works. Except the headphone port.
[22:37] <Tombombidil> that's exactly what I see, however, when I double click on the volume I want to see, it says cannot mount volume, and under details, it says that the logfile indicates an unclean shutdown
[22:37] <erUSUL> olegkorneit: which file system has the drive?
[22:37] <christopher> can anyone assist with a broadcom wireless ?  i
[22:37] <erUSUL> !broadcom | christopher
[22:37] <ubotu> christopher: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[22:37] <Tombombidil> and then starts talking about the NTFS drive being marked as in use
[22:37] <gogeta> Tombombidi it means you need to boot windows and run chkdsk
[22:38] <gogeta> Tombombidi if you can get that far
[22:38] <LSG> Tombombidil: I'm assuming, of course, that something happened to your Windows partition, right?
[22:38] <thannoy> olegkorneit: your extrenal drive is in fat32? fat32 can't manage >4GB files
[22:38] <Tombombidil> yes
[22:38] <Tombombidil> we're having problems with audio
[22:38] <olegkorneit> damn it... thats my problem then.. it is a fat32
[22:38] <Tombombidil> among other things
[22:38] <olegkorneit> thanks
[22:38] <LSG> Tombombidil: But..can you boot your Win partition?
[22:38] <Tombombidil> chkdisk was run 2 days ago with no errors
[22:38] <gogeta> Tombombidi ok start windows let chkdsk run and boot the cd again
[22:38] <Tombombidil> windows partition no longer boots
[22:39] <skarface> Tombombidil: are you hibernating windows instead of shutting it down?
[22:39] <gogeta> Tombombidi as long as it can boot chkdsk thats fine
[22:39] <LSG> Tombombidil: I was afraid you were gonna say that =(
[22:39] <ashdkjahksdas> free mp3 http://www.pc10.com.br
[22:39] <Tombombidil> yes, windows was often hibernated
[22:39] <skarface> Tombombidil: that will 'cause "in use" on the linux side
[22:39] <bent_> christopher: Here goes yet another attempt at me installing it.
[22:40] <gogeta> Tombombidi we can force mount it being we can tell where the drive is in /dev if need be but thats a lasty resort
[22:40] <Don_Sergo> âñåì äîáðîé íî÷è
[22:40] <Tombombidil> the computer was completely shut down before booting the livecd
[22:40] <christopher> i have 8.04 and it says the drivers are already included but it doesn't even recognize the wifi
[22:40] <gogeta> Tombombidi yea you need to pull windows out of hibernate
[22:40] <thannoy> olegkorneit: you can split your files in 4B subfiles to backup them, the command split can do it. Then you will have to concatenate files by "cat file1 file2 file3 > fileall"
[22:41] <ijn> hi all
[22:41] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, did you open up the terminal and try a iwconfig?
[22:41] <christopher> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[22:41] <Liorc> is it any possible to remove the "hda1" and "hda2" icons of my desktop without unmounting them or deleting the content ?
[22:41] <gogeta> Tombombidi let chkdisk run
[22:41] <gogeta> Tombombidi they start the live disk again :)
[22:41] <mr_boo> LSG: here i am
[22:41] <ijn> need some help tweaking firefox 3beta5 on ubuntu 8.04
[22:41] <LSG> mr_boo: How did it go?
[22:41]  * Pelo would love to  click "scroll on" click "scroll off" for his trackball,   but he's not hopefull 
[22:41] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, no wireless extensions when i type that
[22:41] <Tombombidil> when windows boots normally, it hangs on the welcome screen
[22:41] <olegkorneit> thannoy - using windows atm. happen to know how to do it in XP?
[22:41] <mr_boo> LSG: now at least there were no issues at startup
[22:41] <gogeta> Tombombidi ubuntu aruldy flaged it to run chkdisk soo you should be good
[22:41] <ijn> is anyone familiar with firefox tweaking here?
[22:42] <gogeta> Tombombidi chkdsk is befor welcome
[22:42] <stdin> ijn: #ubuntu+1
[22:42] <mr_boo> LSG: biggest question now is how to adjust res and stuff
[22:42] <ijn> what you mean?
[22:42] <thannoy> olegkorneit: to concatenate under windows : copy /B file1+file2+file3 fileall
[22:42] <ijn> ubuntu+1 room?
[22:42] <olegkorneit> how about split/
[22:42] <Pelo> ijn, what do ou ned to tweak ?
[22:42] <stdin> ijn: 8.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 not here
[22:42] <mr_boo> LSG: do i have to manually edit the xorg.conf file?
[22:42] <ijn> need to set horizontal line on my touch pad
[22:42] <Pelo> stdin, are you sure he means for hardy ?
[22:42] <Tombombidil> we ran chkdisk yesterday and haven't done anything with the computer since then
[22:42] <thannoy> olegkorneit: but it will fails on fat32 filesystems because fileall >4GB
[22:43] <ijn> as back-forward button on firefox
[22:43] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, you see it in the hardware info though?
[22:43] <Pelo> !touchpad | ijn
[22:43] <ubotu> ijn: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[22:43] <stdin> Pelo: <ijn> need some help tweaking firefox 3beta5 on ubuntu 8.04 < yep
[22:43] <gogeta> Tombombidi well thats what you need to do without risking alot more damage to the fs
[22:43] <ijn> yeah
[22:43] <ijn> laptop touchpad
[22:43] <Pelo> stdin,  must be before I came in
[22:43] <LSG> mr_boo: System--Preferences--Screen Resolution. Do you have the option you want in there?
[22:43] <ijn> dell inspiron 1505
[22:43] <Pelo> ijn, read up a fw lines
[22:43] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, no
[22:43] <dubby> hey anyone whats the difference between pork and bitchx when i do a synaptic search for the latter i get the former?
[22:43] <stdin> Pelo: nope ;)
[22:44] <chamuco> HI I installed a new HD and now the gdm won't start
[22:44] <gogeta> Tombombidi but if need be look in the poptyes in the guy find where in dev it is and force mount it (very bad)
[22:44] <linkmaster03> How can I recompile alsadriver?
[22:44] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, just eth0 and lo
[22:44] <gogeta> gui
[22:44] <gabbs> What is a "good" mail server / pop3 solution for ubuntu ?
[22:44] <mr_boo> LSG: only offers me one resolution there, 640x480 that is
[22:44] <Pelo> chamuco, do you get as far as the grub boot menu ?
[22:45] <Pelo> !alsa > linkmaster03  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[22:45] <LSG> mr_boo: Then backup your xorg.conf and try adding the resol. you want.
[22:45] <Pelo> gabbs, look in synaptic there are several
[22:45] <dubby> gabbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers
[22:45] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, are you dual booting or are you just single boot?
[22:45] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, dual booting
[22:45] <gabbs> cheers dubby - is that also useful for ubuntu?
[22:45] <chamuco> It get's through grub starts booting dapper then gives me a msg gdm can't write a new auth entry to HD
[22:46] <Pelo> chamuco, boot the live cd , partition the new hdd
[22:46] <dubby> gabbs if they work in linux pretty much good for working in ubuntu
[22:46] <ijn> pelo| there is nothing to tweak on touchpad file conf... I think
[22:46] <mr_boo> LSG: humm, modelines and stuff
[22:46] <linkmaster03> Thanks Pelo
[22:46] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, works fine in windows?
[22:46] <gabbs> dubby, cheers
[22:46] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, yes sir all the time
[22:46] <ijn> there is something on firefox that enables that option
[22:46] <wuxia> how do I choose the theme to use for my ubuntu login screen using gdm?
[22:47] <ijn> in about:config I think
[22:47] <Pelo> ijn, ask in #firefox
[22:47] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, sorry shouldnt have assumed you male
[22:47] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a program to edit dvd ifo files?
[22:47] <ijn> no body was there
[22:47] <Pelo> !theme | wuxia
[22:47] <ubotu> wuxia: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:47] <chamuco> even if I remove the new HD still it won't pass that screen if I get on recovery mode still gives me the same msg but I end at the CLI
[22:47] <Pelo> ijn, try researching it in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[22:48] <LSG> mr_boo: Yeah, just look for the "Screen" section and add the resolution you want in the "Modes" line
[22:48] <Pelo> chamuco, might adding the new hdd have reordered the partitons ?
[22:48] <ijn> yeah im goinng to google it
[22:48] <LSG> mr_boo: Please be sure to backup your xorg.conf file, just in case
[22:48] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, i am, no worries. did it find it when you booted from the live cd?
[22:48] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, no same thing
[22:48] <ijn> I just thought maybe someone has been here before
[22:48] <gabbs> dubby, isn't Hula a mail server as well?
[22:48] <ijn> thanks anyway
[22:49] <chamuco> not sure? might have b/c the new hd is on ide the old are on sata so I am assuming that it does b/c the bios list first the ide than the sata
[22:49] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, what is the model?
[22:49] <christopher> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[22:50] <chamuco> pelo not sure? might have b/c the new hd is on ide the old are on sata so I am assuming that it does b/c the bios list first the ide than the sata
[22:50] <linkmaster03> How can I save a file in gedit with root permission?
[22:50] <dubby> gabbs: Hula is a type of dance by people of Hawaiian culture :-)
[22:50] <Pelo> chamuco, I saw, that's pretty much all I have, I'm not so hot on hardware issues
[22:50] <B|ackDayz> hello, again :)
[22:50] <chamuco> pelo if so how do I fix that?
[22:50] <chamuco> ok ty
[22:50] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a program to edit dvd ifo files?
[22:50] <Pelo> linkmaster03,  you can' t you need to close it and open it again with root permission , from the terminal  gksu gedit /path/file
[22:51] <chamuco> pelo any other chnl that might help
[22:51] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop,  what is an ifo file ?
[22:51] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[22:51] <linkmaster03> Pelo: Thank you so much
[22:51] <Pelo> chamuco, #hardware maybe but here is as good a place as any , just not me
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> Pelo, it's the file that contains info chapter info and such
[22:51] <BobSapp> !help xconfig
[22:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help xconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> I would have thought gedit could do it, but apparently not
[22:51] <co0lingFir3> hi guys! whats the regex syntax for "any folder"? "/*/"?
[22:51] <BobSapp> !help x11
[22:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help x11 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:51] <mrkeishii> how do you use MySQL? What Is It?
[22:52] <Zelta> !x11
[22:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:52] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:52] <LSG> tgm4883_laptop: A dvd file, right?
[22:52] <BobSapp> cheers Zelta
[22:52] <Zelta> :)
[22:52] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop, qdvdauthor maybe but I donT think you can do that unless you reburn the dvd
[22:52] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, i'm using the latest one just downloaded it
[22:52] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher,
[22:52] <tgm4883_laptop> LSG, well not exactly, it doesn't contain audio or video, but yes, its on the dvd
[22:52] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, the latest stable or 8.04?
[22:52] <chamuco> is there a cli irc included in ubuntu
[22:53] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, 8.04 :(
[22:53] <Pelo> chamuco, check in add /remove several are maintionned
[22:53] <Pelo> mentionned
[22:53] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, should i try to latest stable one?
[22:53] <mr_boo> LSG: i've tried to setup the "geforce 8" series in the settings
[22:53] <mr_boo> LSG: gonna restart
[22:53] <LSG> tgm4883_laptop: I was trying to edit a .ifo the other day cause my sister wanted...something. There's a freeware app, called IFOedit. Seemed to work fine.
[22:53] <Pelo> christopher, 3 days until the official move to hardy   not sure it's worth it
[22:54] <christopher> Pelo, i agree
[22:54] <chamuco> pelo I am running winblows b/c of that problem so I can't and if I want to ask something while I am at the cli I have to shutdown rebot in winblows
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> LSG, thanks, i'll check it out
[22:54] <LSG> mr_boo: Did you add the lines you needed?
[22:54] <Pelo> chamuco, hold
[22:55] <chamuco> Pelo K
[22:55] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, lets see if we can figure this out before you reinstall
[22:55] <B|ackDayz> I'm running (attempting to) a live version of ubuntu, when I boot up it gives me the message /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off
[22:55] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, have you tried this guide? http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[22:55] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, thanks
[22:55] <B|ackDayz> they have a similar issue posted on the ubuntu forum
[22:55] <B|ackDayz> but it's not for live versions of the case.
[22:55] <DarkLordVenom> where does ubuntu save its AT jobs?
[22:55] <PaulMooney> I have a sudo problem.  It's like my password, which has worked with sudo up until now, sudo is not recognizing it
[22:55] <rycole> hey all, i'm using apt-get to install an apache/python module and it's going to download and install another python version. is there a way i can tell it not to download that, because i already have python installed.
[22:55] <christopher> fAlCoNNiAn, no but i'll check it out
[22:56] <PaulMooney> strangest thing is that sudo doesn't say "incorrect password" or nothing like that.  it  just exits.  it goes directly back to the command prompt
[22:56] <LSG> PaulMooney: That usually means it worked..
[22:56] <Pelo> everyone , what's a decent   CLI  IRC  clent ?  bitchx ?
[22:56] <mr_boo> LSG: goes back to vesa drivers no matter what
[22:57] <PaulMooney> but it is not running what I attempt to run
[22:57] <rycole> Pelo: bitchx or irssi are my two favorites.
[22:57] <PaulMooney> brandon@DIABLO:~$ sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[22:57] <FastZ> DarkLordVenom: /var/spool/cron/atjobs
[22:57] <PaulMooney> [sudo] password for brandon:
[22:57] <PaulMooney> brandon@DIABLO:~$
[22:57] <earthmeLon> I am currently using bitchx.  Mmmmm
[22:57] <Pelo> chamuco,  irssi and bitchx
[22:57] <fAlCoNNiAn> christopher, give it a try and let us know if it worked
[22:57] <FastZ> DarkLordVenom: or it could be /var/spool/cron/atspool
[22:57] <Pelo> chamuco, irssi is in the repos
[22:58] <LSG> mr_boo: I'm not sure what your problem might be. I need to run for a bit now, ask someone else here and you might get better help.
[22:58] <LSG> mr_boo: I'll be back in 30 minutes though.
[22:58] <mr_boo> LSG: many thanks anyway
[22:58] <linkmaster03> How do I delete a folder and all its contents?
[22:59] <LSG> linkmaster03: rm -r
[22:59] <Pelo> linkmaster03, sudo rm -rf /path
[22:59] <nabcore> rm -Rf "folder name"
[22:59] <fAlCoNNiAn> linkmaster03, sudo rm -fR /whatever
[22:59] <FastZ> linkmaster03: rm -rf /folderpath
[22:59] <linkmaster03> Cheers mates
[23:00] <tifine> ~pastebin
[23:00] <Christina18> are all dvd burners compatible with ubuntu?
[23:00] <FastZ> Christina18: don't wanna say "all" but I will say "most" dvd burners are compatible
[23:01] <mr_boo> hi
[23:01] <PedanticSteve> Hi all, I have a networking issue with Gutsy (had the same with Hardy and am running Gutsy now).  I have a hardware VPN router in my office and my windows machine connects just fine (around 5 Mbits/sec download).  My linux laptop gets around 100Kbits/sec download.  I dont know where to start... I already verified I am connected at 100 Mbits/full duplex to my router.  It is also detailed in this thread on the forums:http://ubuntuforums
[23:01] <mr_boo> how do i get ubuntu to detect my nvidia 8800gt
[23:01] <Christina18> FastZ: samsung sh-202
[23:01] <DarkLordVenom> the >> appends to a file right?
[23:01] <lopin> Got a bit of problems with xawtv on two differetnt computers with two different ubuntu's and two different cameras...
[23:01] <nabcore> DarkLordVenom:  yes
[23:01] <nabcore> DarkLordVenom: > overwrites
[23:02] <PedanticSteve> I have not been able to get a response on teh forums... any advice on getting a higher response on the forums is welcome too
[23:02] <Auctionedllama> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[23:02] <zvacet> mr_boo :did you tried with restricted driver manager
[23:02] <lopin> It's causing the screen to go blank, and I have to Ctrl+alt+bksp to get it working...
[23:02] <FastZ> Christina18: couldnt tell ya, I dont have a definitive list of dvd burners that Ubuntu supports.  Have you checked UbuntuForums or google?
[23:02] <DarkLordVenom> >filename will erase it too
[23:02] <mr_boo> zvacet: yeah
[23:02] <earthmeLon> mr_boo install envy and use it to install your drivers
[23:02] <mr_boo> earthmeLon: ok
[23:02] <Christina18> FastZ: didnt find a list om compatible burners...
[23:02] <HZ> hello all, anyone know why can't I enlarge MPlayer to fullscreen while playing rmvb
[23:02] <earthmeLon> mr_boo
[23:02] <earthmeLon> mr_boo http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[23:03] <earthmeLon> That is not supported by ubuntu, I guess I should say, but it works beautifully
[23:03] <FastZ> Christina18: then I probably wouldnt be able to find one either. :( Have you tried using it on Ubuntu or are you just trying to make sure it'll be supported before you try it out?
[23:03] <HZ> hey guys why can't I enlarge MPlayer to fullscreen while playing rmvb
[23:04] <Christina18> FastZ: yes, the last option is correct
[23:04] <Zelta> are you using a compositing window manager, HZ?
[23:04] <zvacet> HZ : home diectory>view hidden files>,mplayer>config and there type zoom= yes
[23:04] <HZ> no
[23:04] <Nexano> anyone got any experience using a HDTV (1360x768) with a normal monitor (1280x1024) under twinview? (nvidia :p)
[23:05] <FastZ> Christina18: I guess the best thing I can tell you is to boot Ubuntu and try to burn a DVD using that burner.  If it works then good! :)
[23:05] <earthmeLon> Nexano I have two monitors in twinview using different resolutions.  Is that what you want to do?
[23:05] <DarkWolf2008> can anyone please help me with my nvida problens
[23:05] <Nexano> earthmeLon: basically yeah, but having that weird resolution its a bit of a problem
[23:06] <Nexano> my second screen (the normal one) wont go above 640x480
[23:06] <earthmeLon> What kind of gfx card do you have Nexano?
[23:06] <Christina18> FastZ: yes, but if not, then i have wasted my money for a useless one and must buy a new :(
[23:06] <FastZ> Christina18: how much did you pay for the burner?
[23:06] <DarkWolf2008> does anyone know how to make the nvidia driver work in 7.10 please
[23:06] <Nexano> earthmeLon: geforce 7800
[23:06] <friel> so i'm trying to install some games i've got mounted. when i run setup.sh, it tells me i should run it as root, but when i sudo su -  it doesn't recognise sh setup.sh command.
[23:07] <earthmeLon> DarkWolf2008.  I used http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html to install my nvidia drivers
[23:07] <Christina18> FastZ: 400 nok, about 800 usd
[23:07] <chamuco> Pelo TY
[23:07] <FastZ> 800 USD?!?!?!?!
[23:07] <Starnestommy> friel: run sudo sh ./setup.sh
[23:07] <mr_boo> gonna restart now
[23:07] <nabcore> 800!
[23:07] <FastZ> jesus
[23:08] <Zelta> how do you output what video card driver you are using?
[23:08] <thatGuy_> did my question post at 18:04 EST?
[23:08] <friel> starnestommy : sh: can't open ./setup.sh
[23:08] <earthmeLon> Nexano, I had trouble getting twinview to get my settings in the xorg config file to work correctly.  I used envy http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html and had it install the new drivers, plus edit the configuration file and it worked very nicely.  I tried messing with the config file manually and with the build in nvidia program, but couldnt figure it out.  Give envy a try
[23:08] <zvacet>         Christina18 :                   http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/search
[23:08] <sergevn> are there any active developers here?
[23:08] <PedanticSteve> can anyone here help me with my networking issue?
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> LSG, just to be sure, the only ifoedit i have found is a windows program.  Are you running it in wine or is there a linux version around?
[23:08] <fluid_> This is probably a dumb question; but is there a program, comparable to guidance-power-manager for gnome?  gnome-power-manager is good, but it doesn't let me throttle my processor
[23:08] <HZ> zvacet : thx full screen  worked
[23:08] <FastZ> Christina18: are you serious that you paid 800USD for a DVD burner?
[23:08] <Nexano> earthmeLon: envy has never worked for me :/
[23:08] <thatGuy_> I have a sudo problem.  It's like my password, which has worked with sudo up until now, sudo is not recognizing it
[23:08] <Nexano> im afraid of using it again :p
[23:08] <Zelta> how do you output what video card driver you are using?
[23:08] <zvacet> HZ : good
[23:08] <sergevn> I did an bug report, that is very serious but hasnt been added as a know bug.
[23:08] <thatGuy_> strangest thing is that sudo doesn't say "incorrect password" or nothing like that.  it  just exits.  it goes directly back to the command prompt
[23:08] <Magus_X> ROFL
[23:08] <sergevn> for hardy
[23:08] <Magus_X> 800USD?
[23:08] <thatGuy_> It doesn't run what I attempt to run.  for example.  'sudo aptitude remove gedit' simply goes directly back to the command prompt
[23:08] <Magus_X> ive paid like... 40$
[23:09] <B|ackDayz> 800usb is like 50cents everywhere else these days
[23:09] <FastZ> Magus_X: that's what the person said!  it's hard to believe
[23:09] <Starnestommy> friel: cd to the directory that it's in
[23:09] <HZ> zvacet : sehr gut :)
[23:09] <B|ackDayz> lol
[23:09] <Christina18> FastZ: think it should be 80 usd :)
[23:09] <HZ> zvacet : c u
[23:09] <earthmeLon> Really?  Nexano, which did you use? Legacy?  Also, you should follow these directions: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html (follow the MANUAL METHOD) in order for envy to install correctly
[23:09] <Magus_X> B|ackDayz: sure... hey, can you give me those 50 cents?
[23:09] <friel> starnestommy: i'm in the correct directory ( virtua-drives/1 , Dir command shows setup.sh among the files.
[23:09] <earthmeLon> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories Nexano, my bad
[23:09] <ijn> ok guys I found how to set horizontal scrollbar in touchpad as back/forward button on firefox.
[23:09] <ijn> :)
[23:09] <Zelta> how do you output what video card driver you are using?
[23:09] <earthmeLon> Had a bit of a miss copy there :P
[23:09] <B|ackDayz> Magus_X: np, help me with my ubuntu issue first please?
[23:10] <FastZ> Christina18: what did you say the make and model of the burner again?  you said it before but i cant remember what it was.  Samsung something
[23:10] <Nexano> earthmeLon: i did follow the manual :) its just never worked oO but "sudo sh installer" isnt that hard to type :p
[23:10] <Starnestommy> friel: run "sudo chmod o+rx ./setup.sh" then "sudo sh ./setup.sh"
[23:10] <ijn> in about:config shoud change something
[23:10] <thatGuy_> zelta, lspci will list all pci devices.  you can find it in there
[23:10] <latitu> where can i see the last installed apps??
[23:10] <ijn> if anyone is intrested let me know...
[23:10] <ijn> :)
[23:11] <friel> starnestommy: chmod: cannot access ./setup.sh : permission denied
[23:11] <earthmeLon> Hmmm.  I set up my repositories using these directions http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories and then ran the .deb file from the envy site with the .deb installer.  I did not have to run any .sh files.
[23:11] <DarkLordVenom> how do I deny certain users from using the at daemon, I can't find /etc/at.allow or /etc/at.deny  ?
[23:11] <FastZ> ijn: im interested
[23:11] <Christina18> zvacet: found 2 samsung drives, but not exactly this one in that link you pasted
[23:11] <Magus_X> What issue B|ackDayz ?
[23:11] <mr_boo> here i am again
[23:11] <ijn> ok
[23:11] <mr_boo> i got no error messages while using envy
[23:11] <bazhang> zelta cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf will list the driver in use
[23:11] <ijn> I'll tell
[23:11] <Christina18> FastZ: sh-s202
[23:11] <ijn> go to firefox
[23:11] <FastZ> ijn: and you're talking about the left to right scroll bar on a laptop touchpad right?
[23:11] <Starnestommy> friel: what does the output of "ls -l" say and is this on your main partition or another one?
[23:11] <fluid_> Is there a power manager for GNOME that's comparable to kde's guidance-power-manager?  gnome-power-manager is okay, but it doesn't let me throttle my CPU for this laptop.
[23:12] <ijn> and type
[23:12] <Heston> when 8.04 is finally released, how does one upgrade from the release candidate to the actual release?
[23:12] <zvacet> Christina18 :sorry
[23:12] <ijn> about:config
[23:12] <mr_boo> but i got the low graphics dialog at startup :(
[23:12] <B|ackDayz> /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off <<< getting that message at bootup
[23:12] <thatGuy_> DarkLordVenom: you can try changing the permissions on the at file
[23:12] <compilerwriter> Anyone else having issues with tempest?
[23:12] <B|ackDayz> it's a live version of ubuntu
[23:12] <bazhang> Heston: just keep updating
[23:12] <Starnestommy> mr_boo: envy has been known to cause problems that require a total reinstall to fix
[23:12] <ijn> yeah right
[23:12] <mr_boo> oops
[23:12] <B|ackDayz> they have a topic like that on the forum, but they all pertain to reinstalling ubuntu or apt-get
[23:12] <B|ackDayz> in which case I cant use either
[23:12] <thatGuy_> Guys, anyone know why my sudo is no longer working.  I'm basically locked out of my pc right now.
[23:13] <thannoy> DarkLordVenom: /etc/at.deny according to at manual (man at)
[23:13] <friel> starnestommy: - r -xr -xr -x 1 root root 3003 2000-12-15 11:41 setup.sh and it's my main partition
[23:13] <bazhang> thatGuy_: what did you do to your sudoers file
[23:13] <Jimmey> Perhaps someone can help - Usually when installing a Linux on my computer with a bcm43xx wireless card I just put the firmware files in /lib/firmware and restart to make the card work - Can I make it work without restarting?
[23:13] <thatGuy_> bazhang, I haven't touched the file, but sudo exits immediately after entering the passwords
[23:13] <thatGuy_> bazhang, I haven't touched the file, but sudo exits immediately after entering the password
[23:13] <bent_> Hey, for the third and final time #ubuntu, does anyone know of a usb wireless card that works out of the box? (I'm running 8.04, by the way... if that changes stuff.)
[23:14] <bazhang> thatGuy_: you been logging in as root?
[23:14] <bent_> I'm seriously going out and buying a card.
[23:14] <thatGuy_> bazhang: it doesn't say incorrect... just goes directly back to prompt
[23:14] <zvacet> thatGuy_ try in recovery mode          adduser username admin          usermane is you username of course
[23:14] <thatGuy_> bazhang: no i haven't
[23:14] <bazhang> bent_: for the next couple of days best ask in hardy channel
[23:14] <B|ackDayz> beasty_: goto compusa and look up usb 2.0 wireless
[23:14] <FastZ> Christina18: everything im seeing on google kind of makes me lean towards Yes, It will work.
[23:14] <DarkLordVenom> so..... if you add root to /etc/at.deny..... they can't use at?
[23:15] <friel> starnestommy: was that any indicator of the issue? and thanks for the help.
[23:15] <caleb_> how do i change window list color, hover color, ect. i tried gnome color chooser and some other things. I am on gusty gibbon.
[23:15] <Jimmey> bent_, my dad has one downstairs, I'll go look where it is, hold tight.
[23:15] <thatGuy_> bazhang:  zvacet: yeah, i can try that.  i think my password is wokring though.  i can login...
[23:15] <Starnestommy> friel: I think it's a problem with sh. does "sudo ./setup.sh" work?
[23:15] <PedanticSteve> is there another channel for networking issue in general under Ubuntu?
[23:15] <thatGuy_> bazhang: zvacet what is the hardy channel?  I am using hardey
[23:15] <bazhang> PedanticSteve: this is it
[23:15] <thatGuy_> hardy*
[23:15] <bent_> bazhang: Eh. I'd hope that no one truely wrecked the connection stuff between 7.10 and 8.04... and nothing happened really when I asked there.
[23:15] <FastZ> ijn: you never finished telling me how to change what the horizontal trackpad does
[23:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[23:15] <friel> starnestommy: sudo: ./setup.sh: command not found
[23:15] <zvacet> thatGuy_ : but sudo doesn't work ?
[23:16] <fluid_> Is there a power manager for GNOME that's comparable to kde's guidance-power-manager?  gnome-power-manager is okay, but it doesn't let me throttle my CPU for this laptop.
[23:16] <Christina18> FastZ: ok thanks
[23:16] <janki> roma
[23:16] <thatGuy_> zvacet: no, it doesn't run what I attempt to run
[23:16] <Jimmey> bent_, my Dad has a Netgear WG111v2 working out of the box
[23:16] <bazhang> !it | janki
[23:16] <ubotu> janki: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:16] <FastZ> Chrinstina18: no problem.  Ill keep my fingers crossed in hope that it works perfectly for you
[23:16] <thannoy> DarkLordVenom: refers to at manual. "The superuser may use these commands in any  case.   For  other  users...", 'man' command if your friend
[23:16] <zvacet> thatGuy_ I think it is ubuntu+1
[23:17] <PedanticSteve> are there any experts on here that can help me with my networking issue?
[23:17] <xip> Hey guys!
[23:17] <Starnestommy> friel: are you sure that you have changed into the directory where it was located first?
[23:17] <bazhang> only three more days of #ubuntu+1 ;]
[23:17] <bent_> Jimmey: Thanks! Mosthy because that one I can go down the street and buy... instead of waiting for shipping to happen.
[23:17] <Jimmey> bent_, no problem :-)
[23:17] <bazhang> PedanticSteve: the experts are on leave; we are filling in
[23:17] <friel> starnestommy: first thing i checked. been having this issue for upwards of an hour
[23:17] <Jimmey> Perhaps someone can help - Usually when installing a Linux on my computer with a bcm43xx wireless card I just put the firmware files in /lib/firmware and restart to make the card work - Can I make it work without restarting?
[23:18] <thatGuy_> zvacet: bazhang any other ideas?
[23:18] <Zelta> Jimmey: I don't think so
[23:18] <friel> starnestommy: dir does show the file setup.sh, along with the rest of the files in the directory.
[23:18] <PedanticSteve> bazhang:  Thenks  (03:01:25 PM) IRC-vpn: Hi all, I have a networking issue with Gutsy (had the same with Hardy and am running Gutsy now).  I have a hardware VPN router in my office and my windows machine connects just fine (around 5 Mbits/sec download).  My linux laptop gets around 100Kbits/sec download.  I dont know where to start... I already verified I am connected at 100 Mbits/full duplex to my router.  It is also detailed in this
[23:18] <xip> Anybody throw the 8.04 rc cd in and have it set an unsupported resolution for you monitor? or am I just that lucky? :D
[23:18] <Jimmey> Zelta, so no chance of doing it on the liveCD?
[23:18] <josh_> |
[23:18] <b4l74z4r> i would like to suggest that the makers og "rhythmbox" adds a location column
[23:18] <zvacet> thatGuy_ No,sorry
[23:18] <Zelta> Jimmey: I don't think so... why not just install it? :p
[23:18] <spine55> c/lear
[23:18] <Jimmey> Zelta, will do ;-)
[23:19] <Starnestommy> friel: try opening it with "sudo vim setup.sh" then tell me what the first line of it is
[23:19] <hailu_> how can i delete a repository and start over? i made a repo and did an svn import, but i screwed up and want to try again
[23:19] <bent_> Jimmey: Think a WG111US is the same as the v2? Netgear is being vague, and stuff.
[23:20] <zvacet> hailu_ : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list       and correct what you need
[23:20] <thatGuy_> bazhang: zvacet, i will try the recovery disc suggestion
[23:20] <friel> starnestommy:  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "setup.sh" [new file].  each ~ is a new line
[23:20] <earthmeLon> hailu_ try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:20] <Jimmey> bent_, it's probably safe to assume that the sticks in the WG111 series will work - Try googling around
[23:20] <hailu_> thanks guys!
[23:21] <Starnestommy> friel: apparently, it doesn't exist for some reason or you typed the name in the wrong case
[23:22] <Jimmey> bent_, hang on. Although I'm sure it worked on my Dad's computer, it says something about ndiswrapper in the google results.
[23:22] <xip> is there a way, from the boot options on the live cd, that I can set a lower resolution?
[23:22] <friel> starnestommy: total headf***. It's all lower case. Thanks for your time though
[23:22] <YuriQ> Hi. Am running on SATA drives, ubuntu-server 7.10
[23:22] <YuriQ> Usually, IDE drives require optimization through hdparm on Linux
[23:22]  * milia later
[23:22] <YuriQ> does the same apply to SATA drives under Ubuntu?
[23:23] <mattywarr> hi - how do i connect to my ubuntu pc from another (Windows) pc? Is there any built in VNC server style app in ubuntu?
[23:23] <Jimmey> bent_, actually, you'd better steer clear of this dongle! Sorry, seems like I gave you some useless advice
[23:23] <earthmeLon> mattywarr: What do you want to do?
[23:23] <friel> starnestommy: ./setup.sh brings up a loki update tool, with a warning no writable targets in path, "you may want to be root"
[23:23] <rycole> what is ubuntu's system path? /usr/sbin?
[23:24] <bent_> Jimmey: Aw, thanks. I wish there was an easier way to make sure what I buy will work... because I've spent 3 days fighting with broadcom stuff.
[23:24] <mattywarr> I want to be able to connect to my ubuntu pc from work - just in a remote control type thing
[23:24] <Jimmey> bent_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#head-603c9481d6c6288b6b674cc50132d21f6d539c53
[23:24] <zvacet> rycole : what are you looking for
[23:24] <OlMightyGreek> hi guys.. need some help with my umts card. i got a connection with wvdial but i can not use it. how do i set ubuntu tu use this connection?
[23:24] <xip> mattywarr - there are variations of vnc for linux and windows
[23:24] <earthmeLon> mattywarr: If you need a graphical interface, you can do sudo apt-get install vnc4server  OR you can just set up ssh and log in with a terminal.
[23:24] <Starnestommy> rycole: /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/local/games
[23:24] <Jimmey> bent_, yeah, me too. I have a bcm43xx working at the moment, just trying to see if it will work okay with hardy!
[23:24] <rycole> zvacet: just need to know where to create a symlink so i can access something globally.
[23:24] <mattywarr> sure - i have vnc viewer installed ah i like the apt-get method :) thanks!
[23:25] <earthmeLon> Yup yup.  there are a couple of options to install vncserver vnc4server and tightvncserver
[23:25] <bent_> Jimmey: Well, ndiswrapper hates me in hardy right now, but I hear good things about the b43 firmware.
[23:25] <earthmeLon> Not sure which would be best for you mattywarr
[23:25] <Sorinello> hello
[23:25] <mattywarr> i'll try vnc4server and see how I get on with it - i use the windows equivilent a fair amount
[23:25] <Jimmey> bent_, do you have a bcm43xx?
[23:26] <bent_> Jimmey: Close, I have a... hold on... BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02).
[23:27] <OlMightyGreek> nobody with some ideas for me?
[23:27] <zvacet> Sorinello : !ask
[23:27] <linkmaster03> How can I run a program from terminal, and have it accessible for commands while the program is running?
[23:27] <Sorinello> i have a DFI motherboard with P35 chipset and Pnboard JMB363 IDE controller. I installed ubuntu 7.10 on a sata drive, and when i boot into ubuntu, i get loth os warnings.. i can login, but warnings apprea all the time. i know it's something related to KMB controller, but didn't find any solution, so i came here
[23:27] <DarkLordVenom> use an ampersand link
[23:27] <DarkLordVenom> like f-spot &
[23:27] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: programname &
[23:27] <linkmaster03> Thank you
[23:27] <mattywarr> ok, so i've installed it, but can't seem to find it under applications - does the service just run?
[23:28] <vad> why do i need to restart after i enable the ati proprietary driver?
[23:28] <Sorinello> if i disable the JMB controller it's fine, but i need the ATA drive too :(
[23:28] <xip> so - my monitor hates 8.04.. I threw in the install cd - selected install - starts to load the live environment - then  my monitor says "Not Supported Mode" .. so I need to lower the resolution or something before I get to that step.
[23:28] <PedanticSteve> is there the equivalent of "tcp optimizer" for linux?  similar to the windows program?
[23:28] <Starnestommy> vad: because it loads a kernel module on the next boot and loading that module while running may cause problems
[23:28] <valarie2> Hello. I have an annoying problem. I'm running Feisty Fawn and whenever I click and drag and icon on my desktop to move it, it makes a (copy) of it O_o. Any thoughts?
[23:29] <bent_> xip: There's a vga choice at start... I think it lets you choose resolution?
[23:29] <zvacet> xip : try alternate CD
[23:29] <xip> bent_: I'll double check that - but I didn't see one on 8.04
[23:29] <earthmeLon> 194.5GB/250GB restored using dd.  OMG I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
[23:30] <xip> zvacet: I had thought of that - but if I get it installed and I go to boot in to it - wont it auto detect my resolution incorrectly again?
[23:30] <zvacet> xip : If that happened you will correct it
[23:31] <xip> ah true I guess I can fail out of gui and fix it from there
[23:31] <zvacet> xip : and alternate  don´t use graphic installer so thar can help you install
[23:31] <valarie2> Is there any way to sort icons on your desktop other than "By Name"?
[23:32] <quittt> the new release is very near...
[23:32] <valarie2> aye
[23:32] <xip> zvacet: the only way to do non graphic install is to get the other image then? :) would be nice if I had that option from the cd I already got
[23:33] <earthmeLon> quittt: I've never upgraded Ubuntu before.  Is it normally a pretty seamless process?
[23:33] <quittt> yes, very easy
[23:33] <bazhang> earthmeLon: if you have dsl or above yes; dialup not so much
[23:33] <zvacet> xip : sorry only alternate have non graphic installer
[23:33] <PedanticSteve> anyone know if Ubuntu has a "tcp optimizer" program similar to the windows program?  to set TCP settings and optimize them?
[23:33] <earthmeLon> bazhang:  haha, yeah, it's not my connections I'm worried about.  Just nuking my system and having to start over
[23:33] <xip> zvacet: ah I figured as much - thanks though
[23:34] <berekop> join /stubru
[23:34] <earthmeLon> PedanticSteve: I'm not sure.  Are you having some sort of issue?
[23:34] <bazhang> earthmeLon: no need for that; just upgrade via the net and your /home is safe
[23:34] <vad> Starnestommy: is there a way that i do it without a restart?
[23:34] <zvacet> xip : and if you allready have ubuntu with alternae you can upgrade
[23:35] <Starnestommy> vad: I don't think so.  Is there any particular reason why you need to avoid a restart?
[23:35] <PedanticSteve> earthmeLon: yes:  see this thread on the forums... deals with slow network connectivity from Ubuntu- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=755101
[23:35] <earthmeLon> PedanticSteve: seems the forums are being "maintained" :P
[23:36] <PedanticSteve> earthmeLon: well I wonder if I should have made that post differently or not, to increase the chance someoen would respond... dont want to keep bumping my own post though
[23:36] <roxy123> hello guys, i was just wondering what folders i need to backup to keep my email contacts... also is there other important things i need to save, as im about to reinstall ubuntu
[23:36] <kittykitty> there are so few reasons to need these fancy pants video card drivers, and if you're running linux to play games, you're probably used to restarting in windows, live with it :p
[23:36] <BD[work]> /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off <<< any ideas on this message with a live cd?
[23:36] <zvacet> earthmeLon : time and patience is all you need
[23:37] <earthmeLon> roxy123: what email client are you using?
[23:37] <roxy123> evolution
[23:37] <CJS3141> If a program has the permissions: -rwsr-xr-x  and the owner is root, since the setuid bit is set for root, won't the program be run as root no matter who runs it?
[23:37] <Starnestommy> BD[work]: it means that the livecd failed to work correctly
[23:37] <DarkWolf2008> ok i am hated by ubuntu
[23:37] <earthmeLon> Aww, didnt work DarkWolf2008?
[23:37] <BD[work]> Starnestommy: fixes?
[23:37] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: yes, but the real uid will still be the user.  The effective uid will be root.
[23:38] <roxy123> earthmeLon:  i need to reinstall ubuntu because grub is messed up and not even the grub disk works
[23:38] <earthmeLon> roxy123: do you have a folder in your home directory named .evolution?
[23:38] <b4l74z4r> hi, there seem to be a problem playing di.fm radio streams in banshee, regular streams work, but when i log in to get access to higher bitrate streams, they won't play and it says (missing) in the station title
[23:38] <roxy123> maybe, i will look
[23:38] <boubbin> !dhcp
[23:38] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[23:39] <CJS3141> Starnestommy: Practically speaking then, what does that mean? When I run the program without sudo, it complains that it needs to be run as root. Isn't setting the s bit enough?
[23:39] <roxy123> earthmeLon:  i try to copy i"t,but i get the err "The folder "pop" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[23:39] <roxy123> im running in the liveCD right now
[23:39] <earthmeLon> Try using sudo mv BLAH BLAH
[23:39] <earthmeLon> actually
[23:39] <earthmeLon> sudo cp BLAH BLAH
[23:39] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: it might still require sudo because programs can tell if a non-root user is running it if it's setuid
[23:40] <Auctionedllama> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[23:41] <gouki> Hi! Anyone knows a open-source/free software backup solution with CDP?
[23:41] <earthmeLon> roxy123: have you tried fixing grub so that you can just boot into Ubuntu?
[23:41] <CJS3141> Starnestommy: That seems lame... I thought that was the whole point of setting the s bit as root, so the program could be run as root without it complaining. :D Anyway around it other than have to still put a sudo in front of the command?
[23:41] <floating> omg ubuntuforums are down
[23:42] <roxy123> earthmeLon:  i have tried as much as i can, but the tutorial that ubotu gave didnt work... or maybe im doeing something wrong
[23:42] <earthmeLon> CJS3141:  sudo -s
[23:42] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: rewrite and recompile the program to not check for root permissions
[23:42] <Starnestommy> NOT sudo -s
[23:42] <dacresni> is there any way to install packages as non admin? especially if you only want them for yourself
[23:43] <zvacet> dacresni I don´t think so
[23:43] <earthmeLon> My bad, misinterpreted the question
[23:43] <dacresni> hmm, there needs to be a solution for this. I'm being spoiled by mac
[23:44] <ijustam> so, i use optical audio... /dev/dsp neither /dev/adsp provide sound output.
[23:44] <ijustam> am i screwed for recording audio?
[23:44] <roxy123> earthmeLon:  do you think you can hold my hand getting grub working?
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> dacresni, there's no need for a "solution" for a problem that doesn't exist.
[23:44] <zvacet> dacresni : by default you have user with admin rights use thar account
[23:44] <dacresni> ...
[23:44] <CJS3141> Starnestommy: OK, but why would a program insist on the user being root? Why would it care as long as the effective user is root?
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu isn't a mac
[23:44] <roxy123> im a noobie
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> don't expect it to behave like one just because you think it should
[23:44] <dacresni> i know
[23:44] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: probably because setuid can be very insecure sometimes
[23:45] <name10135> All: Looking  for help w/ alt-cd install (Dual boot w/ windows) Been having problems
[23:45] <dacresni> ok, so what if I am a user who just wants to install a program that only they use
[23:45] <earthmeLon> ;_;  I miss mIRC.  So sleek.  So Sexy
[23:45] <linkmaster03> I'm on mIRC now o.O
[23:45] <zvacet> dacresni : you will get used to it and then you will enjoy
[23:45] <linkmaster03> through wine its like, perfect
[23:45] <linux-lover> Hi all :)
[23:45] <earthmeLon> Whenever I use wine, all my fonts are all screwy linkmaster03
[23:46] <linkmaster03> one second
[23:46] <ijustam> are there other sound output devices beisdes /dev/dsp or /dev/adsp?
[23:46] <DarkWolf2008> Can anyone help me with Nvidia problems i have tryed envy and still it does not work any clues
[23:47] <name10135> Looking for help w/ alt-cd install, been having issues trying to setup a dual-boot
[23:47] <CJS3141> Starnestommy: Yes, I agree that it can, but I thought that one assumed that risk when setting the "s" bit, but I see I misunderstood. Would you happen to know the best way I can run a particular command on startup that requires sudo then? I tried putting into "Sessions" but it didn't work.
[23:47] <Pici> !ask | name10135
[23:47] <dacresni>  the program must go through debian stuff and install severall libraries but I am the only user who wants it, , so i should have a folders that mimics the /bin, /usr/share /lib, and /libexec
[23:47] <ubotu> name10135: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:47] <linkmaster03> earthmeLon: in terminal type "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[23:47] <linkmaster03> it will fix your WINE fonts
[23:47] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: maybe something like "echo password | sudo -S command"
[23:47] <bazhang> dacresni: what is the package
[23:48] <dacresni> this is hypothetical but, say quanta
[23:48] <Pici> CJS3141: You want to run a program as root when you boot, or when you login?
[23:48] <dacresni> or UT
[23:48] <dacresni> say
[23:48] <bazhang> dacresni: this is not a chit chat channel
[23:48] <CJS3141> Starnestommy: Yes, but I hate putting my password in plain text somewhere. :-D
[23:48] <zvacet> name10135 :http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/   hope it will help
[23:48] <dacresni> ok, ok,
[23:48] <CJS3141> Pici: When I login I want it to run the program as root. Any ideas?
[23:49] <mattywarr> hello - i have installed vnc4server usin apt-get, but I can;t find it in my applications to launch it. How do i do that?
[23:49] <PedanticSteve> sorry for repeating my question.. but if there is somewhere other than here or the forums to ask this please let me know... I have an issue with my Gutsy laptop having extremely slow download speeds (around 100 kbits) and an windows laptop plugged into the same Ethernet cable connects fast (around 5 Mbits).  I dont even know where to start troubleshooting this.  couldnt find similiar issue on the forums or google
[23:49] <earthmeLon> mattywarr: try running vnc-server
[23:49] <theLichKing> !grub
[23:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:49] <DarkLordVenom> DarkWolf2008: have you ensured that your nvidia card is on the hardware compatability list for ubuntu?
[23:49] <Pici> CJS3141: Can I ask what program?
[23:49] <mattywarr> earthmeLon - how do i do that? From command line?
[23:50] <dacresni> well, CJS3141 thats fairly insecure.
[23:50] <dacresni> PedanticSteve:
[23:50] <earthmeLon> yeah, put an & at the end so that it will continue running when you close the terminal mattywarr
[23:50] <Krzzzz> is there a way to install a package say ubuntu-desktop without having to install the rest of the stuff that comes with it?
[23:50] <Auctionedllama> Guys, I need some serious help
[23:50] <dacresni> PedanticSteve:  type mmi-tool
[23:50] <earthmeLon> mattywarr: vnc-server &
[23:50] <Auctionedllama> First, whats the command to find my UUids?
[23:50] <Auctionedllama> ?
[23:50] <CJS3141> Pici: Sure, don't think it will make a big difference but it is "mount.vboxsf"  a command that specifically mounts folders shared thru VirtualBox.
[23:50] <dacresni> whoami
[23:50] <Auctionedllama> ?
[23:50] <zvacet> Krzzzz : no
[23:51] <ijustam> Krzzzz: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package i believe, so... no.  you'd probably be best finding the specific package you want
[23:51] <mattywarr> cool :) Thanks earthmeLon
[23:51] <name10135> Okaaaay..  I cannot install Ubuntu 7.10 w/ a live CD (the loader stalls after not being able to find graphics drivers), attempted a alt-cd install w/ help here, and the install destroyed the windows boot on a separate partition.  I still require help setting up the partitioning via the alt-cd installer.
[23:51] <earthmeLon> mattywarr: not sure how to configure it, tbh, but hope that helps :D
[23:51] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: as in disk uuids?
[23:51] <dacresni> Auctionedllama: whoami should work, or   whois username
[23:51] <Krzzzz> ijustam:thanks for claryfying that
[23:51] <Krzzzz> ;0)
[23:51] <Pici> CJS3141: Does vbox run as a daemon?
[23:51] <earthmeLon> You can run "w" to see who is currently logged in
[23:51] <PedanticSteve> dacresni:  I get "bash: mmi-tool: command not found".  did you mean "ethtool"?
[23:51] <mattywarr> earthmeLon: Its a start :) thanks for your help - this channel has helped so much i hope to pass on my experience when I get some!!
[23:52] <bazhang> name10135: are you going to install windows again; if so best do it first
[23:52] <Krzzzz> maybe u guys can help me  my   GDM login screen is no longer giving me the option to restart, shut off etc
[23:52] <Krzzzz> they just dissapeared
[23:52] <CJS3141> Pici: I'm not sure, but I think it might--I'm really not sure the specifics of how they share files between the host/guest OS.
[23:52] <Auctionedllama> starnestommy, yes the disk UUIds.. see my GRUB is FUBAR, and I have no idea how to fix it.. none of the boot options work except windows and the ubuntu inside windows, (I copied it to a partition, and want it to boot into it)
[23:52] <dacresni> PedanticSteve: i ment mii-tool
[23:53] <name10135> bazhang: Already did, need help walking through how to setup a dual boot install.
[23:53] <dacresni> alright,
[23:53] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: try ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[23:53] <bazhang> name10135: the live cd does not work? what errors are you getting
[23:53] <zvacet> name10135 : when yo ucome to partition stage select manual and then select where you want to install Ubuntu
[23:53] <Pici> CJS3141: Well, if it does, then it sounds like the perfect command to run when the computer boots, not when you login.
[23:53] <Pici> CJS3141: And then its easy to get it to run as root
[23:54] <name10135> I do not have an option to install guided w/o destroying the windows partition.  I have no clue how to partition and install manually through alt-cd
[23:54] <name10135> bazhang:
[23:54] <PedanticSteve> dacresni: "bash: miitool: command not found"
[23:54] <bazhang> name10135: then use the guided
[23:54] <Auctionedllama> ok starnestommy, uhm.. I got them.. can you explain what I do with them now?
[23:54] <Pici> !boot > CJS3141 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[23:54] <dmsuperman> How can I run a command (like Alt + F2) only it will show the terminal as it runs? Without opening a terminal? Basically, like in windows if you go to start, run, and type a commandline command it will show the command prompt only as long as it's running
[23:55] <icesword> helllllooo
[23:55] <earthmeLon> dmsuperman: What?
[23:55] <Waffle> dmsuperman, Why not bind keys to open the terminal?
[23:55] <earthmeLon> dmsuperman: Do you want the terminal to be opened or not, lol?
[23:55] <name10135> bazhang: Via "Guided - resisze SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1....."  That option will not destroy the windows partition?
[23:55] <CJS3141> Pici: OK, now I see why you are asking. :-) Thanks for the ircbot info on booting. I'll read it and give it a try. :)
[23:55] <Auctionedllama> starnestommy?
[23:56] <zvacet> name10135 : when you choose manual you will see all your partiitons.Don´t touch ntfs.It is windows.You must have some free space to install
[23:56] <dmsuperman> earthmeLon, I want to execute a command, that runs in the terminal, but when it's done the terminal automatically closes
[23:56] <bazhang> name10135: what do you mean install guided will destroy the windows partition; that does not sound right
[23:56] <DarkWolf2008> ahhhhh
[23:56] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: find out which uuid belongs to your root partition
[23:56] <dmsuperman> earthmeLon, so I don't have to keep cleaning up my terminal windows :P
[23:56] <earthmeLon> Oh, dmsuperman, then create a bash script
[23:56] <DarkWolf2008> we may have progress
[23:56] <dmsuperman> earthmeLon, no, any command, nothing static
[23:56] <Starnestommy> what exactly needs to be done with it is somthing that I'm not sure about
[23:56] <Auctionedllama> ok.. Uhm.. my root as in where my Ubuntu is installed or where windows is installed?
[23:56] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: ubuntu
[23:56] <Auctionedllama> ok.. I have it... now what?
[23:57] <tsb_> Hello. I noticed I have -386 and -generic packages installed. I looked in apt and also found linux-686 but it sais "dummy package". So I'm a bit unsure which package to use for my intel core 2 duo system.
[23:57] <Auctionedllama> do you want to see my menu.lst and my fstab and tell me what to edit?
[23:57] <bazhang> name10135: the guided can simply resize your windows partition, not destroy it
[23:57] <crdlb> tsb_: linux-generic is what you should be using
[23:57] <name10135> zvacet: I tried that with guidance on this channel, but the install failed, and then windows was no longer able to boot.
[23:57] <tsb_> crdlb: okay thank you, that is what I am using actually.
[23:57] <icesword> bazhang, good morning, zao shang hao!!!
[23:57] <bazhang> hello icesword
[23:57] <John___> hey :]
[23:58] <dmsuperman> earthmeLon, say for instance I want to run nvidia-settings normally I have to make a new terminal windows (or as you suggest make a bash script for it) but I just want to be able to put a command it, have it run, then when it's done running the window closes
[23:58] <Auctionedllama> starnestommy?
[23:58] <John_> is there a photoshop/graphic design channel
[23:58] <John_> ?
[23:58] <dovlaz> does anyone know what divers will 8.04 support off the cd for broadcom wireless? (xps 1330)??
[23:58] <dmsuperman> John_, are you having issues with Photoshop in general? or with running it in wine?
[23:58] <altf2o> Just wondering if anyone knows of a media player that can play iTunes DRM protected files? I'm on Hardy 8.04 64bit. I've tried all the media players i can find to install non work. Closest is VLC which appears to start playing the file, but no sound comes out.
[23:58] <John_> photoshop in general i'm afraid :P
[23:58] <Starnestommy> Auctionedllama: I don't really know anythiung about menu.lst or fstab with uuids
[23:58] <bazhang> !irc | John_ check the channel list link at the bottom
[23:58] <ubotu> John_ check the channel list link at the bottom: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[23:58] <Auctionedllama> man, ok thanks
[23:58] <elmer> huh, the forums are offline
[23:58] <geminidomino> Mysql/PHP question: I have a php app that is insisting on trying to connect to mysql through /tmp/mysql.lock. I have edited /etc/mysql/*.cnf, and phpMyadmin works fine on the same machine. Mysql CLI client also wants to look at /tmp/mysql.lock. Any ideas what I am missing?
[23:59] <dmsuperman> John_, private message me I'm pretty familiar with it, i may be of some help
[23:59] <Waffle> altf2o, if it is DRM protected then you will probably need iTunes to play it
[23:59] <John_> Sweet, cheers dmsuperman :]
[23:59] <CJS3141> Pici: So if I want to run the command as root at bootup, would I put it in the /etc/rc.local file? And does it require a "sudo" in front or is that script run as root?
[23:59] <Waffle> Unless you strip the DRM off the file, but that could be illegal, not sure about the laws
[23:59] <bazhang> altf2o: need to re-rip in iTunes as mp3
[23:59] <Pici> CJS3141: No sudo required, everything in there runs as root
[23:59] <zvacet> name10135: it is so rare to alternate CD install failed.Boot windows Cd and type fixmbr
[23:59] <bitsbam> how do i change my time in xubuntu
[23:59] <bitsbam> ?
[23:59] <altf2o> Waffle: yeah, i was hoping to be able to just play 'em.
[23:59] <CJS3141> Pici: OK, so is that where I should put the command and give it a try?