[01:47] In "hardware drivers" I have chosen to enable device driver for "ATI accelerated graphics driver". how do i know the driver file name or application was downloaded and installed? [01:51] redwhitewaldo: glxgears tests 3d rendering [01:51] Stroganoff: i don't need to test it. the difference with driver enabled is plain when i turn on google-earth [01:52] check /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:52] section device [02:40] Hey guys, I'm having some problems booting Xubuntu 7.10. I've never had problems with 6.10, but for some reason none of the newer updates will work. The grub will load, I'll select standard generic boot, then it will give me a "loading, please wait message", then nothing. [02:41] Blank screen. For some reason, the 'safe mode' works, but not regular mode. [02:42] Any ideas? [02:43] Oops. Never mind. Just got it figured out. [02:43] why? [03:50] Has anyone ever had problems with SD Cards (or USB drives in general) giving false 'disk full' reports? [03:50] It will still say there's something like 1.3GB available on the SD Card, but will say it's full if I try to put anything on it [03:50] (This is a freshly formatted card, BTW) [03:51] is it mounted properly? ie with read/write capabilities. [03:53] Yes. this will happen after I get about 600MB of stuff on it [03:55] hmm. what file system does it have? [04:57] if i need a hand with something do i just ask [05:10] yes. === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|awau === gaurdro|awau is now known as gaurdro|away [07:38] hi [07:38] is xubuntu really fatser than ubuntu at the boot ? [07:40] what do you mean 'at the boot'? [07:55] zoredache: I mean the time it takes from the moment you start the computer until the desktop is fully open [07:57] It may be better but I don't really think that is what xubuntu is being optimized for [07:57] the performance after the system is up and running is far more important then quick boot times [08:48] thanks === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [09:08] hey guys, can anyone tell me how or if i can add a second language option to my sessions? i am getting a few boxes ready as gifts to central america and some of the recipients don't speak english. [09:28] hey guys, can anyone tell me how or if i can add a second language option to my sessions? i am getting a few boxes ready as gifts to central america and some of the recipients don't speak english. [09:34] Anyone has an XORG config for Intellimouse Optical to use the side-buttons for back and forward and the scroll button for maximize window? Thank you very much! [09:42] is anybody running a BILINGUAL machine here? izzit possible? [09:50] Can anyone make changes to the mouse so that I can maximize windows with the scroll button? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136 [09:52] Can anyone make changes to the monitor so that I can maximize set the screen to 1600x1200 at different various frequencies? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136 [11:18] Can anyone make changes to the mouse so that I can maximize windows with the scroll button? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136 [11:18] Can anyone make changes to the monitor so that I can set the screen to 1280x1024@80Hz? Thanks a lot! http://pastebin.com/d2ad15136 [12:02] How to change the ugly small font of my Windows programs? In Wine. [12:49] How do I change the default font of Wine applications? It's way too small! DPI settings does nothing. [13:22] nothing seems to be working as far as getting this nvidia card working, can it be from old xorg.config files still there interfering? [13:32] homebrewcider: hi [13:32] hi [13:32] I would think the restricted driver management tool should do that for you [13:56] ubuntu [13:57] I cannot create a C drive for Wine. The setting won't stick as I close Winecfg. Any ideas? Thanks! [13:57] KOJV: is your hdd full? [13:57] KOJV have you once started Wine with sudo so the wine config files (in your home) now belong to root? [13:57] totalwormage: don't think so. [13:57] then go with Stroganoff's answer ;] [13:58] Stroganoff: maybe so, yes. [13:58] KOJV: sudo rm -rf ~/.wine [13:58] or no [13:58] hehe [13:58] Stroganoff: did that, same stuff. [13:58] you can better chmod the /home/user/.wine directory :] [13:59] chown rather [13:59] Aaahhh... there. That feels GOO-OO-D! rm -rf me, baby! :) Had to do it in a terminal, not with Alt-F2. [14:00] lol [14:01] i wonder, where will the .wine directory be if you start it under user root [14:01] still in the user's home dir or in /root/.wine ? [14:01] totalwormage: should be /root/ but i'm not even sure that wine will run as root [14:01] i believe it will [14:02] The wine directory was in Tobbe/ [14:02] has anybody here got a EN8800GT video card running? [14:02] in /home/tobbe even [14:02] KOJV: good :] [14:02] homebrewcider: not me personally, but i know someone who has with nvidia-glx it "just worked" [14:03] Okay, so... back to my original problem. How to make Winapps use a larger font?? [14:03] hmm, I have the "new" package, wrong one? [14:03] homebrewcider: yes, the new nvidia package doesn't support all old cards [14:04] I replaced a different card and have had nothing but problems since then [14:05] KOJV: grab some font .ttf's (iirc) and throw them in .wine/System/Font (or something like that ... i haven't messed with wine in a while so i can't remember the exact path) [14:07] so maxamillion, apt-get nvidia-glx? [14:08] homebrewcider: first remove the nivdia and nvidia-settings packages with 'apt-get remove nvidia' [14:09] ok [14:09] done [14:10] then install nvidia-glx :] [14:10] and set up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf the way you used yo [14:10] *to [14:10] installed [14:11] (with nvidia-settings or by hand) [14:12] hmm, I have a nvidia settings window but it doesn't seem to let me do anything [14:12] did you run it as root? [14:13] Yeah thanks maxamillion! [14:14] maxamillion: you don't mess with wine, wine messes with you! [14:14] (i don't know why i wanted to say that :-\ :P) [14:14] I'm a liitle confused as to what you meant by "and set up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf the way you used to" [14:15] oh sorry, i thought you might have experience with configurating your X :] [14:15] I've had nothing but problems, so I don't want to set up anything the way I used to [14:15] lol! [14:15] good one :P [14:15] then just run 'sudo nvidia-settings' [14:16] ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. [14:16] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. [14:16] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'. [14:16] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA VCSCs on ':0.0'. [14:16] [14:16] maybe you should restart your X before configuring your new driver [14:17] ok [14:17] * totalwormage wants to know things for sure for a change before trying yo help someone :P [14:18] nope, same error message [14:18] please tell me that did help :P [14:19] ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. [14:19] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. [14:19] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'. [14:19] ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA VCSCs on ':0.0'. [14:19] see where it says :0.0 [14:20] in my xorg.conf file it says....Identifier "Default Layout" [14:20] Screen "Default Screen" 0 0 [14:20] InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" [14:20] InputDevice "Configured Mouse" [14:20] that seems wiered [14:20] wierd [14:20] to me [14:22] that's ok [14:22] try to do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and agree with everything it asks [14:22] ok, I'm familiar with that [14:24] restarting x [14:28] homebrewcider: please don't flood the channel, use pastebin instead [14:28] ok [14:28] nope nothing [14:30] still same error message [14:35] http://pastebin.ca/991884 [14:35] xorg.conf [14:44] Okay, so when I press Ctrl-F4 in mIRC to close the channel window, the mIRC program window minimizes... that officially blows. :-p How to close a channel window (or document in another program) within Wine? [14:49] this is what I get when I run sudo nvidia-settings http://pastebin.ca/991894 [14:49] What's the side panel's packet name? === KOJV3 is now known as KOJV [14:56] Hello everyone, I need help with a problem I'm having on an Xubuntu computer. [14:57] !ask [14:57] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [14:58] I had a computer with Xubuntu 7.10 on it, it worked great with my broadband high-speed cable internet (it was plug-and-play, I could just plug the Ethernet cable in and Xubuntu automatically recognized the network and I could browse with Firefox immediately). I gave the computer to my friend who has a slightly different internet setup (it's DSL from Mediacom) and he tried plugging his Ethernet cable from his modem in [14:59] Firefox can't find the server at www.example.com.* Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com * If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. * If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. He called me and I tried to help but I don't know what to do. The computer has n [15:01] Is there anyone there? [15:01] right, ok ... well since DSL requires a login, where as Cable does not, there is probably some configuration that need to be done [15:02] but that would be specific to your friends internet provider and wouldn't actually be an issue on xubuntu's part ... your friend should probably get in touch with his internet provider and find out what modem configuration needs to take place to have it broadcast dhcp leases [15:03] well I'm stuffed if I know what to do next with this video card [15:04] He tried contacting his ISP provider (Mediacom) and they were completely unhelpful and said they knew nothing about linux computers [15:05] We tried power-cycling the modem and it didn't work, we then opened a Terminal and We typed ifconfig and got something like this: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:1A:DC:65 [15:05] mib_e56s548h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE [15:06] Sorry, eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:1A:DC:65 net addr:198.209.253.169 Bcast:208.141.109.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:18940 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2 TX packets:11554 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:2 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:4087250 (3.8 Mb) TX bytes:2499423 (2.3 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd000 [15:06] We then went to System / Administration / Networking and opening the network settings and changing the settings in Connections from DHCP to Static IP. [15:06] It asks for your IP address and Gateway address, and automatically puts in your subnet mask number so to find the Gateway address we typed netstat - rn in the terminal and it gave us a table that looked like: [15:07] mib_e56s548h: did you check the link from Stroganoff? it might help [15:07] mib_e56s548h so your friend got a modem without built in router? [15:08] Destination:0.0.0.0 Gateway:0.0.0.0 Genmask:192.168.0.1 [15:08] OK, I checked out the link from stroganoff [15:09] it is interesting, I'll have to read up on it more [15:09] I also tried asking this question in the ubuntu forums, not much help. Here's the link to the post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740562 [15:12] Bye === gaurdro|away is now known as gaurdro [15:19] anybody got any more ideas on how to get this video card working? [15:32] homebrewcider: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html [15:34] checking it out [15:34] thanks [15:56] hello [15:56] hi [15:58] Since xubuntu isn't going to have windows network support preinstalled, can anyone please refer me to the easyest guide to set windows network connection? (I have a guide, but it's tiresome to go through ALL the steps, each time i reinstall the system) [15:58] BTW, that's the only reason i switched to linux mint xfce edition. === totalwormage is now known as totalwormface [16:01] !fusesmb [16:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about fusesmb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [16:02] Ben_Cs: i don't know if it's the easiest way to install but i personally enjoy the useage of fusesmb with thunar [16:02] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu [16:03] yes, it's the way i was talking about. rebooting the pc 3 times... Hoped there is a shortcut [16:04] :P [16:04] actually you don't really have to reboot, it was just easier to explain to windows users :) [16:04] totalwormface: i play with the system and sometimes i ruin it. so doing all that each time IS tiresome [16:04] i understand [16:05] TheSheep: so, you don't reboot, but i do what? [16:05] Ben_Cs: you have to log out once, after you add yourself to the fuse group [16:05] Ben_Cs: and you need to do 'sudo modprobe fuse' after you added fuse to /etc/modules [16:06] TheSheep: So i don't understand why rebooting is easier for winblows users? [16:06] who was it that told me to get envy before? [16:06] * totalwormface hides [16:06] Ben_Cs: less scary, I guess, than some cryptic commands on the commandline :) [16:06] homebrewcider: it was Stroganoff [16:06] Stroganoff, you there? [16:07] !envy [16:07] envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver » [16:07] :) [16:07] the only Stroganoff i know is the one invented: beef-Stroganoff [16:07] :) [16:07] well, it got it all going with the minimum of fuss [16:08] teehee [16:08] homebrewcider: really? that's great [16:08] yeah envy is quite a good tool [16:08] yes, after 2 days of screwing around, got it done in one click of the nouse [16:09] mouse [16:09] TheSheep: ok, in that case i shall return to xubuntu happilly. Is release candidate of Hardy stable enough? I remember that release candidate of xubuntu 7.10 was very stable... [16:13] Ben_Cs: I'm not sure, personally I ran hardy from the beginning and I only had occassional problems with it [16:14] ok, thanks. Going to download it now [16:20] man the download is SLOW [16:20] is there a faster source than: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.04/rc/ [16:20] ? [16:28] Ben_Cs: ein großfürst eins am zarenhof, wo sonst. [16:28] oops [16:29] Stroganoff: yeh. english would be better :) [16:30] Ben_Cs: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/rc/ [16:32] Stroganoff: now that's what i'm talking about! Thanks man! [16:35] btw, does xubuntu have a forum? [16:38] only http://ubuntuforums.org/ [16:42] What's the equivalent to ipconfig? [16:42] ifconfig [16:48] How to access a Windows network share? [16:49] !smb [16:49] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [17:09] I'm following the guide [17:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently#head-7642e1c6e40e33d10337cf956798915341a08971 [17:10] But as I try to sudo mount -a [17:10] I get this: error 2 opening credential file ~/.smbcredentials [17:10] I did the chmod 600 on it alright. [17:12] Anyone? TheSheep? [17:12] wrong guide [17:12] i use this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 [17:12] Stroganoff, how's that? [17:12] k [17:38] Stroganoff, I follow the guide but as I try to fusesmb /media/network I get access denied. [17:38] fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /media/network: Permission denied [17:39] If I add sudo I get; fuse: bad mount point `/media/network': Åtkomst nekas [17:39] sudo chown `whoami`:fuse /media/network/ [17:39] dont use fusesmb with sudo [17:40] k [17:40] Stroganoff, chown can't access /media/network/ [17:41] Access denied. [17:41] sudo chown? [17:41] Yep. [17:41] sudo killall fusesmb [17:41] Okay, now it's cleared, chown done. [17:42] How can I reset the desktop? It's hung with a hourglass or whatnot. [17:42] killall xfdesktop [17:42] No icons won't show. [17:42] Thanks. [17:43] That has no effect. :-o [17:43] killall xfdesktop4 [17:43] erm [17:43] no [17:44] "no process was terminated" [17:44] don't know [17:44] logout :p [17:44] OKay, I'll reboot then. Thanks! [17:44] logout should suffice.. [17:47] Stroganoff, now I get... [17:47] tobbe@Texas:/media$ fusesmb /media/network [17:47] test [17:47] normal [17:47] you dont have to run this in /media though [17:47] it should work now [17:47] Stroganoff, okay, why won't I get access to Win networkshares then? [17:48] cd /media/network && ls [17:48] Stroganoff, it's empty. [17:48] shame :D [17:49] Yah. [17:49] Perhaps I must open something in the fw? [17:49] no [17:49] you just have to make sure that the windows firewall service is runnig [17:49] otherwise your windows shares do not broadcast [17:50] if there is no error message when you open "Windows Firewall" in the control panel, then it should be running, otherwise not [17:53] Stroganoff, running fusesmb fuxx0rs the permissions on the media/network folder. [17:54] sudo chmod 777 network [17:54] THen check the folder's permissions in the file manager... everybody may write/read. [17:54] Then fusesmb /media/network [17:54] And check the permissions again... they're down to read onlyh. [17:55] thats ok [17:55] you shoudln't 777 anyway [17:55] sudo adduser `whoami` fuse [17:55] Okay, the guide said so. Anyways, how come I can't see any computers? [17:55] have you added yourself to the group? [17:55] Yes, it said I was already a member of fuse. [17:56] are you sure the firewall service on windows is running? you could check -> Run.. -> services.msc -> Windows Firewall [17:56] Stroganoff, other Win machines can access each other in this LAN, WinFw is not the problem... [17:56] I was thinking more of the fw in Xubuntu.- [17:58] there is no fw, other than iptables which doesn't apply here since fusesmb is not a server [17:58] Stroganoff, okay so all ports outgoing are open per default? [17:58] no [17:59] a port is only "open" if there is program listening on this port [17:59] Yeah but I meant by the system. Anyhow... hmmmmmm. [17:59] in default setup there are no network services running. and fusesmb isn't a network to start with [17:59] Never mind about that. [17:59] the "SYSTEM" doesnt listen for incoming packages. [17:59] Neither does Window. [17:59] s [17:59] yes windows does [17:59] there are multiple network listening services in windows default pre SP2 [18:00] ever wondered how SASSER could spread? [18:00] i'm wondering though what your problem is. fusesmb works fine for me. [18:02] Gonna reboot again. [18:11] Okay, so... how do I get sound? [18:18] Hi. How can i edit the stuff in xfce's top panel. the application shortcuts under "Applications" [18:19] theres that "menu editor" but it shows only exit help and system [18:24] Hi, can anyone help me with an installation issue? [18:25] cl_sid, just ask you question [18:26] How can I force xubuntu 7.10 install to default to 1024x768 resolution instead of 1280x1024, safe graphics does not work (terminal session errors) [18:27] where do i find the option for not turning the screen to black after an amount of time? the screensaver option doesnt work [18:27] cl_sid, what card/driver? whats your xorg? [18:27] .conf [18:27] paste it somewhere [18:28] card is an old S3 Trio64 PCI with max resolution of 1024x768. Where do I find this xorg.conf? [18:28] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:29] Let me see if I can get it... [18:30] I'm using whatever is on the default 7.10 install disc [18:30] How do I get sound? [18:37] How do I get sound? [18:39] I've got an Ensoniq PCI card that is detected by the system, but all I get is PC speaker beeps. [18:45] turn the volumes up in xfce4-mixer [18:54] hello [18:54] just moved back to xubuntu. hardy is different indeed. [18:54] i have a problem: [18:55] i installed ntfs-config tool, but it doesn't let me make changes although i run it through sudo ntfs-config, why is that? [19:00] so what do i do? [19:01] Stroganoff, it's maxed out. [19:01] what card is it exactly? === PsynoKhi0 is now known as PsynoKhi0-afk [19:03] Ensoniq AudioPCI. [19:16] disable your onboard sound in bios settings [19:16] Has anyone got xubuntu 8.04 wireless working on an EEE? [19:16] cat /proc/asound/cards [19:17] Adys: run this script: http://ubuntu-eee.tuxfamily.org/index.php5?title=How_to_use_the_ubuntu-eee_script [19:17] checking it out [19:17] Warning: The ubuntu-eee scipt is for Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) [19:17] hm :) [19:18] you use hardy? [19:18] oh i see [19:18] :D [19:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC#head-bd037cc8ecf56215a6c6b4ea5de4ec32ef23fba1 [19:19] looks like what i need, thanks [19:25] hello [19:27] when i first put icon theme in .icons and changed my mouse icon theme i was asked if i want to auto-start the icon-something-app at startup. i said no, but now i see that after reboot the icons i set don't take place. so i probably need that app autostarted, but i don't know what app is that. can anyone please help me with that? [19:29] 2 system error (out of memory, cannot fork, no more loop devices) [19:29] A [19:29] THat's what I get trying to mount something from a credentials file. [19:29] Fstab: //192.168.0.1/wwwroot /media/network/wwwroot cifs credentials=~/.credz [19:29] Why can't it open credz? Even if I set it to 777 (stupid). [19:31] Stroganoff, http://pastebin.com/d473e18e9 [19:31] Stroganoff, would device 2 be my onboard? [19:33] Is there anyone alive out there!? [19:45] is there a complete list, which applications xubuntu 7.10 brings along? [19:47] is TheSheep here? [19:48] or somewehre else in the internet..? didnt found anthing.. might have used the wrong keywords [19:49] nakora: here's a list of the sources that are compiled together to create xubuntu http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/7.10/release/source/xubuntu-7.10-src-1.list [19:50] thanks alot [19:50] anytime [19:50] how can i upgrade to hardy from gutsy ? [19:52] maxamillion: i use hardy. installed ntfs-config. when i run it, when trying to add V's the apply button turns gray [19:53] maxamillion: i looked at the exec line and it says: gksu ntfs-config, but i don't get asked for a password [19:54] Ben_Cs: change the exec line to gksudo ntfs-config [19:55] maxamillion: trying [19:57] maxamillion: it asks for password but still doesn't let me make any changes [19:57] interesting [19:57] ... why is libnautilus-burn a dependency of gnome-games? oO [19:58] i've honestly never messed with that tool ... i haven't had a window partition anywhere near one of my machines in a little over 8 years [19:58] maxamillion: maybe it want "root"? [19:58] Adys: no clue [19:58] Ben_Cs: no, it should want your password ... unless you enabled the root account, then try going back to gksu and use the root password [20:00] maxamillion: the root account sits beside my name in users options. amybe i should delete it completely? [20:01] Ben_Cs: its up to you [20:01] all my machines have a root account and has sudo disabled, but that's a personal preference and a personal belief in security practice [20:01] maxamillion: will i ever need root login? [20:02] Ben_Cs: if you have sudo enabled like it is in default? no, never [20:03] maxamillion: it says administrator account can't be deleted - it'll make the system unusable [20:05] heh ... well then [20:05] i've never tried to get rid of root ... just add it [20:05] brb [20:05] ok [20:19] still need help... [20:24] hi [20:59] what option do i disable so that compositor isn't slowing synaptic? it's a V somewhere but i don't remember where [21:03] oh, it's: gksu-properties, and disable "grab" [21:23] Can I launch the xfce alt-f2 run dialog from the command line? [21:23] Or do I need to use something like gmrun? [21:27] n8 [23:29] this is a little off topic...is there a way to watch a movie dvd iso in xubuntu? [23:29] by default, I don't think so... or ate least no encrypted video [23:30] there are things you can do to make it work [23:30] !dvd [23:30] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [23:38] zoredache, i found it on google....gxine -V xv /path/to/video.iso [23:38] of course, i needed libdvdcss2 installed [23:39] vlc works too I think... on unencrypted video anyway [23:41] * vidd just likes gxine [23:41] tons better then totem [23:42] i think i have an 8-track thats better then totem! [23:42] unless they made drastic improvements to totem in the last year [23:43] now if someone could just explain what the -V and xv mean..... [23:43] =] [23:45] hrm...looks like it might not even need all that [23:46] the man page seems to say that -V is about choosing your video driver... [23:47] i cut out all the -V and xv and it works just the same [23:48] nice...very nice [23:48] One would guess that the person who provided the example you used had to use it to get past some kind of bug [23:49] it was a script he wrote to right-click the iso to play it [23:50] if im reading the post correctly...but it was for a different distro...so idk [23:51] well...im off to watch the movie [23:52] (i guess i should really just get the DVD player installed on this box rather then making an iso and ftp'ing it over....) [23:52] but thats another story....=] [23:52] night all [23:56] cl [23:56] cls [23:58] hello, im trying 8.04RC and got a weired bug, i install 8.04 ubuntu RC, and then i just apted xubuntu-desktop xubuntu-defaults xubuntu-artwork xubunut-bla bla, now when i choose on gdm to log into my xfce session i just get a light blue screen >< [23:58] any tips? [23:58] if you press alt-f2 can you start xfce4-panel? [23:59] let me try, i need to logout of my gnome session and try, brb [23:59] I would also be tempted to stop gdm all together and try doing s startxfce4 from a terminal