[00:37] @nixternal: you were right about Bug 218091 being a dupe :-) [03:11] evening [03:13] * seele waves [03:14] Evening yuriy and seele. [03:16] hallow yuriy, seele, ScottK [03:17] Heya jucato. [03:19] * seele waves [03:24] * Jucato drowns [03:24] too many aves [03:24] er.. waves [03:38] * nixternal waves [03:38] don't wanna be left out [03:39] nixternal!!!!!!!!!!! *cough* !!!!!!!!!! [03:39] omg, jcastro our picture made it to the 'front page' of Penguicon pics...sorry bout that :p [03:40] * nixternal makes it a new rule - no more partying like the world is ending [03:41] lol!!!!! [03:41] bwahah!!! [03:41] * Jucato tries to save the pic [03:41] hahaha!! got it!! [03:42] nixternal: jcastro has reddish demon eyes :) [03:42] argh, and that was meant for the Michigan channel as "What happens at Penguicon, stays at Penguicon" [03:43] * nixternal has to figure this 'screen within a screen within a screen out' [03:43] I have posted so much stuff in the wrong channels today...I was just playing some IRC game with superm1 posting the game commands in another chan [03:44] I was wondering why I couldn't win [03:44] hahah :) [03:44] well at least you didn't give the direct link to the flickr photo in here [03:45] I did that in another channel earlier trying to send it to Jorge and a mutual friend got a hold of it [03:45] so it has made twitter already [03:45] so I can paste it in here now :) [03:45] interesting to know that quite a few of the people I met at Penguicon found my IM stuff and have been messaging me all day long [03:46] haha [03:46] it's hard being a celebrity :) [03:46] well, if you seen some of these people from the con, you would definitely not be calling me a celebrity [03:47] that's the point... I haven't seen them :P [03:47] Jucato: you want a good one, look at this one -> http://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.castro/Penguicon2008/photo#5191701934041261442 [03:47] that will give you an idea of the type of people that were at the con [03:48] just under 1,100 people present, and about 1,090 looked very similar to him [03:48] oh hahaha :) [03:48] didn't you see my blog post from today yet? [03:48] I don't know what's scarier... the man in the tron suit or that scary guy behind him [03:49] jono's very authentic picture? [03:49] ahaha ya [03:49] :D [03:49] he is so going to kill me, but he has some blackmail photos of me, so I had to get something out there [03:49] hahah [03:50] I am afraid to see the new photos that make it into his "Community" talks now after this weekend [03:51] (as a side note, picasaweb finally works in Konqi 4) [03:51] ya, I noticed that as well earlier :) [03:52] I think the Tron guy uses Kubuntu too btw, and if you don't know who he is, he is a celebrity in the states now (how I will never know) :) [03:52] http://www.google.com/search?q=tron+guy&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 [03:53] yeah I've seen him before. didn't know he was *that* famous :) [03:54] ya, and then some [03:54] he has been on quite a few tv shows, even south park [03:54] soon you will be too :P [03:54] southparked I mean [03:56] haha never [04:45] nixternal: ouch [04:46] Jucato: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7a8s2lkr6Q <- that is a summed up version of what the con was like [04:47] * Jucato buffes with anticipation [04:47] nah, not to bad actually [04:47] a real 'hilight' real of the entire con would be just as long as the con itself, if not much much longer [04:48] heya nixternal [04:48] yuriy: you're still in Chicago? [04:48] wasabi yuriy [04:48] Jucato: yep [04:48] whoa, where at? [04:48] cool! randall munroe! :) [04:49] nixternal: well i'm staying at northwestern [04:49] you are kidding me! [04:49] but i spent all day walking around Chicago [04:49] until when? [04:49] and plan to do the same thing tomorrow [04:49] oh, NW, not NOrthern [04:49] leaving on wednesday [04:49] hrmm...when on Wednesday? [04:50] fairly early.. it took us 3 hours to get from O'Hare to NW, so we have to make sure to get back on time [04:50] 3 hours? you must have come during rush hour [04:50] yeah, pretty much [04:50] I used to go to school at NW [04:50] everybody from the cubs game was on our train [04:50] oh, cool [04:50] and then the train started smoking.. [04:50] ahh, you took the train [04:51] oh no, you were on the train that got evacuated? [04:51] nixternal: yes, what would you suggest? cab? [04:51] Geeks of the world unite!! [04:51] so nice when that happens :P [04:51] Hi - I'm triagging bug 158341 - which package takes care of creating samba shares in kubuntu ? [04:51] Launchpad bug 158341 in samba "Samba is still a pain in kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158341 [04:51] yuriy: cab would be about $50 probably [04:51] if not more [04:51] yeah.. too expensive [04:53] nixternal: Can you help mathiaz out? [04:53] looking at the bug now [04:53] Kewl. Thanks. [04:54] sounds like a valid wishlist to me...what exactly are you trying to do mathiaz with your triaging? [04:55] nixternal: it's not a samba problem - all the work on the samba side has been done [04:55] don't know what all is in the pipes for KDE 4 + Samba either..haven't heard much [04:55] mathiaz: the module kubuntu ships is in kdenetwork [04:55] nixternal: it's up to the kubuntu apps that takes care of creating network share to generate the correct configuration [04:55] there is another samba configuration module though too which is pretty broken [04:55] yuriy: thanks [04:56] nixternal: so you're back from penguicon? [04:56] yup [04:56] tomorrow is whicked busy for me...trying to figure a way out around that [04:56] what time are you all planning to go to the city? [04:57] nixternal: we're hoping to catch the rush hour purple line (is that even a good idea?) so about 10:30 [04:58] 10:30 would be post rush hour, which is probably best [04:58] last one is supposed to be at 10am [04:58] oh, I am guessing that is an express train then [04:58] yeah, that's what i mean [04:58] ya, at that time they aren't all that busy and much faster [04:59] anyways, my friend and i are basically walking around being tourists, but i wouldn't mind meeting up for a little bit and having a kubuntu chat [04:59] how long are you planning on staying downtown? [05:00] nixternal: until we're too tired to walk :D though we'll probably go to a museum at some point, haven't picked one yet [05:00] will you be online by chance at all tomorrow while you are out and about? [05:00] nope [05:00] or, I could just give you my cell number...in the morning and early noon I will be jammed [05:02] so you basically live downtown? [05:02] man, I am supposed to meet up with Phil Rodriguez from KDE too as he is in town...but I have hung out with him in the past, if I can catch up with you sometime tomorrow that would rock [05:02] I am about 1 hour west of where you are [05:02] ah [05:02] southwest actually...and only an hour because the roads stink :) [05:02] really only 30 miles really [05:02] oh wow that's actually pretty far [05:03] I live 20 miles west of the city, but I can hop on the train and be down there in less than an hour [05:03] though i guess things are on a larger scale out here [05:03] oh ya [05:03] gotta remember the burbs of chicago go out over 60 miles from the lake front in all directions :) [05:03] oh 20 miles, nvm. i'm a bit more than 20 miles from boston and driving in is not a problem at all [05:03] what? boston driving is horrible :) [05:04] you can risk drowning in the big dig now I guess :p [05:04] I am supposed to have my DB class tomorrow evening, but that is easy enough to ditch [05:04] I could always trek up to NW [05:04] heh. i never had the "opportunity" to drive there while or before the big dig was going on. things have certainly improved, i'm sure [05:05] to bad you weren't staying until wednesday evening or thursday morning..I will be up that way anyways as I have to take my car to the dealer [05:05] I stayed in Brokton for a month, and the traffic was the worst I had ever seen [05:05] yeah i was rather impressed by the roads/traffic in Chicago [05:06] you got lucky then if they impressed you [05:06] though they are getting better for sure [05:06] well, i'm not driving, of course [05:06] but right now after all of the snow, we have potholes you could swim in [05:07] but i saw lake shore road wasn't moving right in the middle of rush hour, but other than that it didn't seem bad [05:07] hehe, gotta love LSD [05:07] Lake Shore Drive that is :) [05:07] in boston all roads out for 40 miles get slowed to a crawl [05:08] they can do that here as well [05:08] what time is your flight on thursday? [05:10] nixternal: 4:30 on wednesday [05:10] 4:30 PM? [05:11] yeah [05:11] hrmm [05:11] I could possibly come up to NW tomorrow afternoon or wednesday morning [05:11] if wednesday, then I could just drive you to the airport as it would be on my way back home [05:12] hmm, i'd rather just meet up in town [05:23] nixternal: ping [05:23] whoa [05:24] BTW i think your browser / OS plugin is a bit off in your blog :) i’m on Safari 3.1.1 build 525.18 , not Safari 525.18 [05:24] :) [05:53] hi kids [05:57] heya [07:15] Greets, everyone... [07:15] I was hoping someone would be able to tell me if XCB support had been removed from Kubuntu in the RC? [08:35] * Hobbsee ponders any reasons to stay involved with kubuntu [08:36] Riddell: are you OK to take over the kubuntu members kde4 ppa? [08:44] * Hobbsee advises people to look at the Kubuntu Devel ML [08:47] * Jucato looks... reads teary eyed... and sheds a (only one) tear [08:49] * Jucato has to step down too... form the chair... [08:49] bbl :P [08:51] awww [08:52] Hobbsee: sorry, didnt look where i was [08:52] jussi01: NP [08:52] so when do we get a new council member? and who can be one? [08:53] at next meeting, i'd guess [08:58] jussi01: kubuntu-users...you're looking at it, i presume? [08:59] Riddell: Upgrade from dapper works by doing it in the same manner as though it were server [09:01] Hobbsee: yes [09:01] jussi01: cool [09:14] Riddell: only flaw I've found is that Kcheckgmail's password is corrupted which I believe was held in kwallet so that's not so good. === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away [11:49] ryanakca: ping [12:09] Czessi: pong [12:11] ryanakca: hi, i will inform you, that we create a completly new theme for kubuntu-de.org. to many java script an to many graphical errors [12:11] okies :) [12:11] ryanakca: i send you a copy when its done [12:12] thanks :) [12:21] hi there [12:21] hey Serega [12:22] sorry, folks. looks like I'm unable to enhance gdebi-kde in time :( [12:25] Serega: thanks for trying, it can always go in -updates if it gets sorted [12:27] Riddell: really sorry, I believe I WILL make this. Btw, how is the situation with gdebi under KDE4? maybe it is time to move to PyQt4 at all? [12:27] Serega: it'll need a port to qt4 for intrepid [12:28] * Serega is willing to do this [12:28] great [12:32] ah... one another thing: I have spent LOTS of time to insert a sound file to OOo impress. Solution: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugin-base. I understand we cannot add such a solid picece of GNOME-based distro to install CD, but this issue is highly disappointing even for experienced users. Maybe we should have... erm... separate builds of OOo for kubuntu? [12:32] or use koffice [12:32] we'll probably also look at using gstreamer phonon for intrepid, although I suspect xine will still be better [12:32] koffice is great but is not so cross-platform as OOo yet [12:33] I expect it will be by the time koffice 2 comes out [12:33] Serega: file a bug on openoffice.org-impress anyway, that's a missing dependency [12:34] Riddell: ok, thanks for advice [12:34] with a great new logo :) === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [13:55] Riddell: Any thoughts on updating Krusader before we release. It builds, runs, and at least one crash bug I can't reproduce. [13:56] well, it goes against all the rules [13:56] but for an important package like krusader maybe we can bend them [13:57] fabo suggested it and he's maintaining it in Debian and invovled upstream. [13:57] It's Universe, so I can get it in with a 2nd ack, but wanted to check with you first. [14:00] :D [14:00] sorry to be late on the request === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 [14:08] hello again everyone [14:10] davmor2: hey [14:11] hello [15:33] hmm, no ubuntu in this SoC? [15:33] nope [15:33] how come I havent heard about that? Shame on you intertubes. [15:34] Riddell: do you know anything about it? [15:34] Riddell: I mean, Fedora and openSUSE are there, not sure why though. [15:35] Debian too. [15:35] I've no idea why Ubuntu wasn't chosen [15:37] oh well [16:46] guys what is the compression tool in Kubuntu called please? [16:47] Ark I think. [16:47] thanks === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [16:58] * Artemis_Fowl fixed bug #196756 [16:58] Launchpad bug 196756 in kgrubeditor "kgrubeditor doesn't recognize AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST entries" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196756 [16:58] * Artemis_Fowl will release soon version 0.7... [17:27] Hello, a question about fstab which someone may know. A user had an UUID entry but no mountpoint specified, deduced it was his / fs. If a mountpoint is not specified in fstab, will the system assume it's the / ? [17:30] genii: I don't think mountpoint are optional [17:30] If I remove the mountpoint of my cd drive I get: "mount: mount point udf,iso9660 does not exist" [17:31] smarter: I didn't think so either. But here's a pastebin of his fstab, as you can see, no / specified http://pastebin.com/d6251166b [17:31] and it works? [17:31] Yup [17:32] Although I had him add it [17:32] very strange [17:33] If this is default behaviour, someone adds an entry above that one without a mountpoint specified, the system will think it's the / which could be problemmatic [17:41] * stdin adds another 4 to 5-a-day [17:42] although the one should be at least worth 5 on it's own [17:42] bug 220655, bug 220659, bug 220661 and bug 220664 [17:42] Launchpad bug 220655 in kdewebdev-kde4 "Many KDE 4 packages reference KDE 3 packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220655 [17:42] Launchpad bug 220659 in kdeartwork-kde4 "kscreensaver-kde4 recommends kwin and kscreensaver-xsavers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220659 [17:42] Launchpad bug 220661 in kdebase-runtime "kde-icons-oxygen suggests kdebase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220661 [17:42] Launchpad bug 220664 in kdesdk-kde4 "kdesdk-scripts-kde4 suggests kdelibs4-doc and qt3-doc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220664 [17:42] bot flood :P [17:50] Heh, looks like stdin has it all under control [17:52] JontheEchidna: He's a hard worker [17:54] heh, I just got 26 emails from myself :p [17:58] genii, smarter: i guess that works via grub/initrd since they know the "/" partition already. at the time / is beeing mounted, the fstab isn't readable yet. [17:59] but that's just a guess [17:59] probably, but I thought that it will drop you to a busybox prompt [18:00] I wonder who would know for sure if it's by design or not [18:00] smarter: only if the root= partition in menu.lst isn't available [18:09] genii: did / get mounted it's correct mountoptions from fstab or just 'defaults'? [18:10] seezer: When I had him do: mount it showed the fstab options for the / [18:10] So I suspect it's by design [18:10] (but not sure) [18:10] "mount" reads /etc/mtab which is handled by mount anyway [18:11] or /proc/mounts which the kernel handels === rbrunhuber_ is now known as rbrunhuber [19:18] ScottK: what happened with krusader? [19:35] is the source for adept manager available somewhere? [19:44] talavis: apt-get source adept [19:45] (shameless plug: there's a new version-in-progress at: darcs get http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/adept-3/) [19:47] mornfall and smarter: thanks [20:33] Kubuntu CDs up for testing! [20:34] I just finished burning of my RC cd >.< [20:35] rsync the current one [20:37] meaning? [20:37] rsync -CvzapP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/hardy-desktop-i386.iso localfile.iso [20:37] where localfile is the one you already have [20:37] then burn that [20:38] underway, thanks === _Czessi is now known as Czessi [20:48] Whats the shortcut to get the window settings dialogue up, I fullscreened a program and aren't sure how to un full screen it [20:49] Oops wrong tab. [20:52] Riddell: I'm back. I haven't got to it yet. [20:53] riddel: oops... I just realised a misstake on my side, my cd was alternate... guess i have to wait the final two days after all (the cd i burned crashes when choosing installation) [20:58] tfdd [21:56] yuriy: I will try calling you in a bit as this board meeting just will not end [21:59] Riddell: Just ask slangasek to sync krusader. [22:00] fabo: krusader sync requested. [22:03] ScottK and Riddell: what needs to be worked on for tonight? if I meet up with yuriy instead of going to class, I shouldn't be out to late and will be able to work on some stuff tonight, and then some stuff for the rest of the week [22:03] Release notes/announcements? [22:04] ya, gotta start the website stuff, already on my list of things started === __Czessi is now known as Czessi [22:04] I know somebody asked me to do something the other day while I was afk, but I can't remember [22:05] may not even have been Kubuntu related [22:10] hrmm, downtown at the field museum, that will be a tough one to get to at this time..no parking at the train station [22:16] * apachelogger should become ill less often [22:16] tell me about it [22:16] nixternal: I blame all the work [22:17] btw, do we have a party plan for hardy yet? [22:17] * apachelogger needs to get Nightrose to do a radio show [22:18] yeah, radio show [22:18] with: The Dubliners - Whiskey In The Jar [22:18] * apachelogger is singing [22:21] oh lord [22:21] I sang a little to much this weekend, of which I will never live down [22:22] thankfully, unlike JR's singing, it will not make YouTube [22:22] xRaich[o]2x: that menubar makes me shudder over and over again, awful use of space IMO [22:22] nixternal: lol [22:22] oh [22:23] Czessi: do you know a karoke bar in Berlin? [22:23] dude, Jono, Mako, Mika, Milosz, and I got rickrolled in a pub of all places..the sad thing, Mako sings it perfectly :) [22:23] apachelogger: no, but i can ask for that [22:23] * Czessi is not born to sing ;) [22:24] me either, so don't feel bad [22:24] Czessi: would be cool, with all tha kubus and ks and roks [22:24] hehe [22:25] apachelogger: oh, then beer is not enough :-) [22:25] for me [22:25] well [22:26] I still think a KDE beer trunk would be a good idea [22:28] hm, you mean i should plan a kubuntu and kde party and search a location where you can sing karoke? [22:30] apachelogger: Would you have time to help us with sponsoring last minute uploads in #ubuntu-motu. [22:31] Czessi: would be awesome IMO [22:32] Riddell: you think Mark would sponsor that? ;-) [22:32] ScottK: sorry, gotta go to bed soon [22:32] K [22:32] apachelogger: ok, write it to my linuxtag list [22:32] apachelogger: know you, where kde has the domicil? [22:33] Czessi: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Linuxtag2008 [22:34] apachelogger: huh? [22:35] apachelogger: i know this page but there is no information if they has a holiday flat, because i will search a location between our flat and there flat [22:35] xRaich[o]2x: at the top there is a menubar which wastes space since there is only one category with 3 items, and at the bottom there is a status bar which wastes space since there is no status information [22:36] apachelogger: It's not used yet, so what? [22:36] Czessi: well, you could ask either Joerg or @kde-events [22:37] xRaich[o]2x: well, what do you want to add to the menubar? [22:37] apachelogger: ok, i ask at @kde-events [22:37] apachelogger: I'm not done with the app so chill. [22:38] apachelogger: Give me some time i have more important things to do, i already told you that. [22:38] yeah [22:38] xRaich[o]2x: I just note that the menubar is pointless [22:38] apachelogger: Right now it is. [22:39] I don't see it become any better really, it's not like that app is gonna become a desktop system ;-) [22:39] The statusbar is used in the newest revision and will be used even more. [22:40] apachelogger: neversfelde said something about writing a doc so a i guess there will be help and i want to add some more launchpad stuff. [22:41] xRaich[o]2x: well, just keep in mind, every item you add requires ram and time at startup [22:41] anyway, gotta go to bed [22:41] nini [22:42] apachelogger: I'm pretty sure that you won't need a supercomputer to manage 2 more menus. ,) [22:42] xRaich[o]2x: unix, one app per task :P [22:43] It is "one task" [22:43] a launchpad center would be a seperate app ;-) [22:43] It's not a launchpad center -_- [22:43] [23:40:37] apachelogger: neversfelde said something about writing a doc so a i guess there will be help and i want to add some more launchpad stuff. [22:43] anyway [22:43] * apachelogger fades [22:44] apachelogger: Don't interpret stuff into everything i say ;) [22:45] chillax guys :) === pgquiles_ is now known as pgquiles [22:45] * xRaich[o]2x had a hard day, and apachelogger obviously had too much coffee ^^ [22:59] blueyed: heck of a changelog on dbconfig-common [23:00] Riddell: yes, it was shorter in the beginning (only the security/umask issue) [23:08] blueyed: so why is it now longer? [23:09] Riddell: new version in unstable.. it was a sync initially, but there was a regression with "purge", so I've picked the fix for that from svn. However, as long as there are no other regressions, it's nice to have all those fixes mentioned there. [23:10] ok, accepted [23:16] Thanks. === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Test Final Candidates http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all