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Daisuke_Idotsb_, i can assure you, you're not going to get a performance increase choosing generic or 38600:00
snikkerJucato: http://pastebin.com/d6dfc344a00:01
tsb_Daisuke_Ido: isn't it compiled with optimalizations for the platform? I realize they do very little usually, however if one is theoretically better suited than the other and it costs me nothing to use it why not..00:02
DarkestHourdid you make any changes to your hardware snikker? like plugging the cd drives into the primary ide channel?00:02
Daisuke_Idotsb_, when you install, it selects the kernel best suited for your hardware00:03
snikkerDarkestHour: no, any changes was made00:03
tsb_Daisuke_Ido: I've been upgrading this thing for several years, I don't think I had the same hardware "back then"00:03
* Daisuke_Ido shrugs00:04
tsb_Daisuke_Ido: anyway I'll just go with generic, thanks.00:04
Daisuke_Idoyou got an answer, generic's going to be your best bet00:04
DarkestHoursnikker, if possible could you shut the machine down and plug the cd drives into the secondary ide channel?00:05
snikkerDarkestHour: in the secondary ide channel i've got an ide hard disk...00:07
ScorpKingi've updated my system (7.10) on the friday and now i see a lot of "APIC error on CPU0: 00(40)" in dmesg since then. the first one showed up in /var/log/debug:Apr 18 18:49:04 right after the upgrade. thunderbird also hangs a lot. any ideas/info?00:09
DarkestHoursnikker: can you atleast switch one of the drives then?00:09
snikkerDarkestHour: yes, i can00:11
DarkestHourok, lets give it a shot.00:12
snikkerok now i try...00:12
tomazRiddell: Sr, if I may interrupt you and have a brief talk about a bug that's annoying me,00:13
tomazRiddell, You will not find that intrusive, whould you?00:14
Riddelltomaz: go on00:14
tomazFor i'm unable to boot my system, as it hangs just after being installed and upgraded, after the reboot,00:14
tomaz(the 8.04 version), not being able to find /sbin/init00:14
Riddelltomaz: you've done an install from an RC CD?00:15
tomazyes, I did.00:15
ScorpKingtomaz: i have the same problem on one of my servers00:15
tomazWell, nice to know that i'm not the only one, this means that's not my fault, And it's a real problem.00:16
tomazSo, let's start lookin' for something to fix o_o'00:16
tomazRiddell: I'm your hands and eyes from now on, please use me as you ca.00:16
tomazcan*00:16
ScorpKingRiddell, tomaz: from what i've gathered it looks like a problem with SATA disks and grub/initrd being unable to find the root filesystem sometimes. i haven't had time though to look into yet00:18
tomazI don't have a SATA disk00:18
tomazI have a old' fluffy IDE Disk.00:18
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tomazbut maybe, just MAYBE, my dad changed the disk's IDE's.00:18
ScorpKingtomaz: what motherboard do you have?00:19
Riddelltomaz: not my area I'm afraid, you'd need to ask some linux people00:20
tomazan Asus A7V-something.00:20
tomazRiddell: Np, thanks for your time =)00:20
ScorpKingtomaz: just looking for the motherboard invoice. one sec00:20
snikkeri'm come back00:27
ScorpKingtomaz: sorry but the writing on the invoice is unreadable00:27
tomazScorpKing:, well, I had linux working here for about 3 years00:28
tomazbut this never happened, so, yeah, i'm a bit (completely) lost00:28
snikkerDarkestHour:  i've unplugged the ide cable (with hd) and i can see the cd-rom driives (but i don't have the hd...)00:29
ScorpKingtomaz: i also have weird problems after upgrading to the latest kernel. maybe going back to the old one will solve it00:29
snikkerDarkestHour:  and another thing happen...00:29
ScorpKingnow my mouse stopped working :(00:29
ScorpKingit still moves but clicking doesn't work.00:30
DarkestHoursnikker: what else happened?00:30
ScorpKinghow do i downgrade a package in apt?00:30
ScorpKingand the mouse is back :)00:31
snikkerDarkestHour:  at boot, the system (at filesystems check..) say that hd3 is not present (shure is not connected). and sho me only the console mode00:31
snikkerDarkestHour:  if i type exit than start tha GUI00:32
snikkerDarkestHour:  what's happen?00:32
DarkestHoursnikker: i'm not sure, but did you switch everything back now?00:32
snikkerDarkestHour:  now i'm with cd-romdrives connected on primary channel and hd drives on secondary channel unconnected...00:33
snikkerDarkestHour: in this way the cd-roms are detected00:34
DarkestHourwell connect everything back the way it was and see if they will all detect now.00:34
snikkerok i can try...00:35
snikkerDarkestHour: now i lost the disks,,,00:42
snikkerDarkestHour: same error at boot00:42
tomazI will wait for the ...00:44
tomazfinal release00:44
tomaz=/00:44
gandaldfsera00:54
tomazgandaldf, english, please =p00:55
gandaldfuhm ok00:58
gandaldfsorry00:58
jdbugmanI'm on a machine that doesn't  have the restricted drivers manager listed. It's updated...can I run it via command line?01:05
nosrednaekimjdbugman: its in systemsettings->advanced01:07
nosrednaekimand yes, you can with "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"01:07
jdbugmanIt's supposed to be, yes.01:07
DarkestHourit's also jockey-kde01:07
jdbugmanAh...jockey got it. Thanks :)01:08
nosrednaekimoh... hardy01:08
jdbugmanYeah, sorry. Should've specified...01:08
jimmy51quick:  how do i set a file association in kubuntu?  (trying to use VLC as default movie player... )01:10
Jucatojimmy51: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations01:11
nosrednaekimJucato: that was nice and fast01:11
DarkestHour!default01:11
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"01:11
jimmy51thanks!01:13
mot_if i download the latest kubuntu 8.04 rc01:15
mot_will i be able to apt-get my way to the final version or will i have to do a fresh install?01:15
jimmy51that did it guys, thanks for the tip01:15
Daisuke_Idomot, you can apt-get to the final01:16
Daisuke_Idoin fact, by the time final's released, you'll already have it01:17
mot_when does final come out?01:17
mot_this week something yea?01:17
nosrednaekimyep01:18
mot_what day?01:18
Iced_Eaglethe 24th01:19
Iced_Eagleso thursday IIRC01:20
Iced_Eagle!timeline01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about timeline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:20
Iced_Eagle!hardy01:20
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu01:20
Iced_Eaglethere we go01:20
szakulecfolks: if anyone is still looking for ideas of what will be possible with KDE 4 and Plasma, check out this SoC project:http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=F16B9339F86C1ABA01:24
Iced_Eagleszakulec: Thanks. Sounds neat :)01:27
DarkestHourszakulec: pimp.01:28
jdbugmanOk, next project... OpenGL works in VLC and Mplayer, but not Kaffeine01:35
jdbugmanIt falls back to auto, which leaves me with a blue block where my video's supposed to be.01:35
Admiral_Chicagojdbugman: any particular codec?01:36
Admiral_Chicagoor is this system wide01:36
jdbugmandivx in this case, but it affects several...01:36
jdbugmanAll I've tried01:36
godkasHey, Im running Gutsy 32-bit and trying to get the ati.com drivers to work but after installing and aticonfig --initial i reboot and fglrxinfo says mesa. has anyone else run into this problem?01:36
Admiral_Chicagohave you tried ogg vorbis jdbugman01:39
szakulecvorbis is an audio codec01:39
jdbugmanIsn't vorbis an audio codec?01:39
szakulectheora is the Ogg video codec01:39
* jdbugman goes to fine a theora01:39
sparr_is there a bash-like shell in which a script can modify its parent's environment?01:40
szakuleccheck the linux.com  weekly videos01:40
Admiral_Chicagoopps, you're right szakulec.01:41
szakulecAdmiral_Chicago: don't worry about it01:41
jdbugmanSame thing. Blue rectangle.01:42
szakulecyou've set Kaffeine to opengl and it doesn't work?01:43
jdbugmanNope. Throws an error. :/01:44
szakulecanything somewhat informative?01:44
jdbugman"Can't init Video Driver 'opengl' - trying 'auto'...Q01:46
jdbugmanSo, no...01:46
orianna2008what01:46
jdbugmanNo details listed01:46
szakulecis it an HD resolution video?01:47
jdbugmanVideo size doesn't seem to matter. This one was only 512x384...01:48
szakulecI'm not really sure why VLC would work and not Kaffeine- but you could try running Kaffeine from the commandline and see what messages are printed01:49
jdbugmanTried it.. heh Nothing prints...01:50
jdbugmanLet me try running xine by hand...01:50
jdbugmanOr...not..01:50
* jdbugman grabs xine-console01:51
jdbugmanThat's...not what I want.01:52
szakulecI'm guessing you'd prefer to watch in Kaffeine over the other players right?01:53
jdbugmancacaxine works. lol01:54
szakuleccacaxine is pretty cool01:54
jdbugmanOnly because it's the default and changing all the file associations by hand sounds....annoying, at best.01:54
szakulecit's a lot better than aaxine01:54
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szakulecit's not as bad as you'd think- but it does take more than 1 click01:57
jdbugmanOk...xine works fine.01:58
jdbugmanSo why isn't kaffeine-xine happy?01:58
szakulecI'd say it was a colorspace issue, but since VLC works, I'm not really sure why01:58
jdbugmanAh, --verbose... of course.01:58
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szakulecif you are interested in changing the default app for a video type, go to Kcontrol, KDE components, File associations, video, and then click on an extension and promote your choice to the top02:00
jdbugmanYes, but I'd have to do that for every video format... There's quite a few.02:02
jdbugmanBut I suppose that's better than it just not working. Thanks for the help!02:02
Frederickfolks anyone here managed java and flash on amd64? My kde4 broke my mozilla plugins stuff so now im lost02:05
jmichaelxubuntu forums are down? this is criminal.02:13
DarkestHourlol, yeah02:13
godkasi know02:13
godkasim trying to figure out this fglrx issue02:13
godkastheres a page i wanna look at and cant :'(02:13
jmichaelxi just upgraded my laptop to hardy, and need forums to get my wireless straightened out02:14
jmichaelxby the way, hardy+firefox beta+flash = crap02:15
DarkestHourreally? i havent had one problem with the firefox beta and flash.02:16
crimsunit's pretty hit n' miss02:17
crimsunsome people have horrible experiences with libflashsupport+Flash02:17
Iced_EagleI had a pain getting flish working...02:17
Iced_Eagleflash*02:17
Iced_EagleTook me probably like 3 or 4 hours to get it working02:17
Iced_Eaglewhich isn't fun02:18
jmichaelxDarkestHour: i had no problems with FF beta and flash in gutsy, but i do in hardy02:18
jmichaelxcrimsun: can libflashsupport just be removed?02:18
jmichaelxmaybe a silly question02:18
crimsunjmichaelx: sure.  That's part of 192888.02:18
jmichaelxhmm02:19
jtmoneyif i install RC and keep it up to date, will there be any difference between that an the final version?02:19
jtmoneymaybe config files?02:19
jmichaelxjtmoney: nope, you'll have final02:19
jtmoneyokay, then might as well :)02:20
jtmoneythanks02:20
Frederickfolks im trying to install firefox but I get the following error http://pastey.net/8622502:26
Daisuke_IdoW0WBagg3r, let me guess, an accident with an irrational particle accelerator, a pair of rubber bands and a liquid lunch?02:35
linuxguymarshallWhere do I go for Open Office questions?02:35
DarkestHour!openoffice02:37
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org02:37
Daisuke_Idohe left right after asking02:37
DarkestHourlol02:37
aktathats not the best way to get help lol02:37
Frederickfolks im trying to install firefox but I get the following error http://pastey.net/8622502:38
tiberius1701anyone know why when i reboot or restart my ati drivers are disabled, and the compiz is running cuz i got the white screen, but i fixed the white screen, but dont know why my graphic drivers kept disable them self02:47
godkasUgh. the Kubuntu ati packages suck02:49
NickPrestagodkas, why do you say that?02:49
godkasFYI if anyone else is having problems with them install the ati .run file directly and install via their istaller02:50
godkasNickPresta: kept trying over and over and couldnt get it off mesa. installed the .run and poof02:50
tiberius1701so you mean install the ones from ati.com02:50
godkasyeah without making them into packages02:50
godkasthis is with gutsy BTW02:51
tiberius1701im in hardy02:51
tiberius1701i heard they were a newer version in hardy02:51
godkasyeah i just uninstalled the restricted and installed the ati binary directly02:51
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godkasthat fixed it. I might have missed something with the restricted drivers somewhere but the auto was easy and seems to work properly02:52
tiberius1701i heard if the binary one usually only work with ati HD cards, what you think02:52
godkasim on a x1950XTX02:53
tiberius1701x1650 pro02:53
godkasyoull want the same02:53
godkasthe whole x1000 series02:53
godkasthat is if your drivers arent working properly already02:54
tiberius1701the propritay one is working and so is compiz, but if i reboot the driver is disabled and a white screen, because of compiz, i can fix the white screen02:54
godkaswait your fglrx driver is disabled?02:55
tiberius1701yeah if i enabe compiz and shutdown or reboot, then my driver is disabled02:56
godkasare you on that comp right now?02:56
tiberius1701no02:56
godkaskk02:56
godkasload back into x with your backup xorg.conf02:57
tiberius1701do i have a backup02:57
godkasif you made yours it should have also made a backup02:57
tiberius1701ok, how do i do that cuz im a n00b02:58
godkas-boggle-02:58
godkashmm02:58
godkascan you get to a command prompt?02:58
tiberius1701yeah im in the system02:58
godkassudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:59
godkasthat will build you a new xorg.conf02:59
tiberius1701should it start out and ask me what driver to use, cuz it starts out at use kernel frambuffer interface03:00
godkasits gonna walk you through a buncha stuff03:02
godkasput yes for that (i did)03:02
Frederickfolks I need help with java in swiftweasel03:02
tiberius1701i otta just rip this ati card out and use the onboard nvida03:02
Frederickthis simply does not work ive tried all I got it installed on the machine but the browser simple refuses ti recognize this stuff ive lost 4 hours doing this03:02
godkasbah thats just giving in to the ati haters03:03
godkasits really easy you just gotta do er right03:03
tiberius1701i dont understand if the driver is enable and i want to reboot and press ctrl alt backspace, i just get a blackscreen03:04
godkasyou were back in x?03:04
godkasi thought you were stuck in a command prompt because x had compiz issues03:05
tiberius1701i dont know03:05
godkasare there pretty colors and a gui or a blinking white command prompt03:05
tiberius1701right now im in here03:05
tiberius1701i mean before when the driver was enabled i reboot or shutdown its a blackscreen, and end up having to turn the power off manully, then when i boot into kubuntu my driver is disabled03:07
godkaswell heres what you need to do (this is what i did) sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) , sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx , make sure /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common doesnt have fglrx disabled , Download the binary from ati.com , install driver using sudo sh ./<ati driver name>.run , sudo depmod -a ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, aticonfig --initial, reboot03:09
BluesKajtiberius1701:  the driver is unable to run in X, can't provide the required parameters . That's the best way i can put it.03:09
BluesKajor use the restricted driver in /system settings/ advanced/...it might work03:11
godkasim showing him how to install the ati.com one03:11
godkasive never been fond of restricted drivers03:11
godkasjust the name restricted sounds bad03:12
tiberius1701i think it has somthing to do with compiz, compiz is disabled now but it seems when i reboot it enabled again, ie white screen, then i have to alt f2 kwin --replace03:12
godkasthat really shouldnt happen03:12
maxym!fr03:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:12
BluesKajwell, if he's running a radeon card ...the restricted driver will provide 3D and DRI, if that's what he wants03:12
maxymwhat is the adress for undernet03:12
godkasgoogle: undernet irc03:13
BluesKajgoogle it03:13
maxymwhat03:13
colthi ppl03:13
maxym.server google: undernet irc03:13
maxymis broken03:14
godkastiberius1701 did you do it like i said? or were there different steps to your install03:14
godkashttp://www.undernet.org/03:14
godkasbecause if i were getting this issue id uninstall compiz and all instances of ati and fglrx and start from scratch (less confusing)03:15
tiberius1701what the reconfige stuff, i think i should have have my ati driver enable before i did that03:15
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godkas-shrug- its just making your xorg03:15
godkasyour drivers have no bearing on what can be in xorg.conf03:16
godkasjust dont load the wrong ones :)03:16
tiberius1701ok should it have composite disabled in xorg03:16
godkasfrom what i read yes03:16
tiberius1701comcrapic03:17
BluesKajtiberius1701:  if you've installed a proprietary driver , it must be uninstalled in order for another , hopefully workable one to replace it03:17
tiberius1701whats a workable one03:18
godkasthe one on ati.com03:18
Frederickfolks how do I install firefox 32 bits in ubuntu 64?03:18
godkasati-driver-installer-8-4-x86.x86_64.run03:18
BluesKajuhmm one that will run in X without crashing03:18
godkasfrederick theres a good how to on that lemme look03:18
tiberius1701ok so uninstall this one and renstall ati.com one03:18
BluesKajFrederick: install ia32-libs03:19
godkashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443503:19
Frederickive done it I got it installed03:20
Frederickstill I miss th package it self!03:20
BluesKajtiberius1701:  if you aren't goinf to try to run compiz-fusion use the restricted driver in system settings/ advanced... it works for almost everything else03:20
godkaslike i said tho im using the proprietary kaj03:21
godkastheir card is very similar to mine03:21
BluesKajwhich card godkas ?03:21
godkasx1950XTX03:21
godkassame series03:21
godkasitll work but the restricted ones didnt for me03:21
mol032777hi all03:22
tiberius1701i am trying to run compiz and it worked after i enable the restricted driver it work and then enable compiz it worked, but if i shutdown i get black screen and then i have to shut the power off and when i boot the driver is disabled and compiz is still running03:22
Frederickdamm i need help setting java in my machine it works thou the browser does not recognize it03:22
mol032777mine works03:23
mol032777default03:23
Fredericksudo update-java-alternatives -l lists the machines03:23
Frederickbut java tester does not run03:24
Frederickabd somehow I dont have the firefox32 package03:24
BluesKajFrederick: sudo update-alternatives --config java and choose the latest java ...usually the the /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java will work03:24
FrederickBluesKaj: the problem is in swiftweasel plugin03:25
FrederickI find no how to to set this crap03:25
BluesKajok Frederick , dunno about that03:26
Frederickhttp://javatester.org/version.html03:26
Frederickdoes not work here03:26
Davo_DinkumI downloaded kubuntu-kde4-8.04-rc-alternate-i386.iso but it's ubuntu for some reason :/03:26
tiberius1701try a different mirror03:27
Aldenorhey, i want to set Firefox like default instead konkeror03:27
Aldenorhow i do that?03:27
BluesKajkde is kubuntu03:27
ubuntuHelp!  Stuck at the installation step 4/6 for kubuntu 7.10 gusty gipp, and can't create partitions.  Partition list is blank03:29
BluesKajAldenor:  in system settings/default applications ..you may have to set it in other apps as well ,like kmail and konversation03:29
BluesKajubuntu , do you have other OS's on the drive ?03:30
ubuntuyes, a previous version of kubuntu.  but it failed installation upgrade to fiesty fawn03:30
ubuntuso I downloaded the latest install iso03:30
BluesKajubuntu , did you choose the mount point for /  ?03:31
ubuntuhow do you do that?03:31
BluesKajin the partitioning options03:31
BluesKajchosse manual partitioning instead of guided or auto03:32
ubuntuI'm not getting any options to do anything03:32
BluesKajwhat screen to you have ?03:33
ubuntuit won't let me click Next> to go anywhere03:33
ubuntu4/6 Prepare Partitions03:33
AldenorBluesKaj where is system settings?03:33
ubuntuThe previous screen was choose keyboard03:33
BluesKajKmenu, Aldenor03:33
Aldenoroh, i got it, thanks03:34
ubuntuwhen I click next from there, it scans my drives03:34
BluesKajdo you see rectangle with some like sda or hda listed03:34
ubuntuthen I get a blank list again03:34
ubuntunothing03:34
BluesKajgo back03:35
ubuntuI have listings with nothing below them03:35
ubuntuok03:35
FrederickOki I need help setting the java plugin in my browser ive tired it alone for 5 hours03:35
ubuntu3/6 Keyboard Layout03:35
Frederickthis is broken on the distro must03:35
PhilRodFrederick: what have you tried already?03:36
FrederickPhilRod: all tutos from the web the 3in1 installer the broken documentation tired to set up it in a firefox32 still thepackage seems to have disappeared and the script has problems with persmissions in a dir I was unable to fix03:37
PhilRoder, can you try again with punctuation?03:37
ubuntu: /03:37
FrederickPhilRod: all tutos from the web. The 3in1 installer. The broken documentation. tried to set up it in a firefox32, still the package seems to have disappeared. the script has problems with persmissions in a dir. I was unable to fix this issues03:38
PhilRodthat's better, thanks03:38
FrederickPhilRod: ive been using linux for 5 years this is trivial somethign is broken and I need it working03:39
Frederickand the docs are not correspondent with the actual status of the distro03:39
Jucato!6403:39
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.03:39
PhilRodFrederick: ok, let me see if it's working here03:40
Frederick?03:41
FrederickPhilRod: I had this working in my machibne but updating to kde4 broke it03:41
PhilRodwell, if it's not working here, I'm unlikely to be able to help you03:41
PhilRodcan you suggest a site with a java applet on it for testing?03:42
Frederickwww.javatester.org03:42
PhilRodok, cool, so I have it working here03:44
PhilRodso, basics: what does `which java` say?03:44
Frederick/usr/bin/java it is oki03:45
PhilRodit's firefox you're having trouble with, right? does konqueror work?03:46
Frederickno borwser is working the plugin is not properly installed03:47
BluesKajFrederick:  did you try installing sun-java6-jre and the sun-java6-plugin ?03:48
BluesKajand by allmeans java-common as well03:49
FrederickPackage sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate03:49
Frederickjava-jre is isntalled03:49
JucatoFirefox needs the -plugin package to work... but not available for 64-bit afaik03:50
FrederickI hads it working once I know it is possible03:50
BluesKajkde4 yousay , Frederick ?03:51
Frederickno the plugins03:51
BluesKajare you running kde4 tho ?03:51
FrederickJucato: that is why i have to install the firefox32 which disappeared,03:52
FrederickBluesKaj: kde4 is too broken I came back to the 3 I havent uninstalled03:52
BluesKajok, that shouldn't matter in your browser03:53
BluesKajwell, my brain is going into hibernate mode ...sacktime for me03:53
BluesKajnite folks03:53
JucatoFrederick: you've tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-6524a0c56845e40dccd32676dad42830325e5707 ?03:55
Jucatooh well, it points to the 32bit firefox too...03:56
Agent_bobhmmm blank black screen with mouse cursor in the middle, looks the same whether it's ubuntu linux or M$ vesta or what ever....03:57
Daisuke_Idobecause the shape of the mouse cursor is pretty much set in stone at this point - have you ever used an app or game that had its own custom pointers?  personally, i find it a bit uncomfortable03:58
natasliahhello03:59
natasliahi need help... my adept manager has locked up after an upgrade04:00
Agent_bobanswer ^ yes.   but i disagree with the "set in stone" statement...   try  sudo killall kdm    and just run    X     you get the   X  cursor that way04:00
Daisuke_IdoAgent_bob, by that i meant that most things use a standard cursor, similar if not identical proportions, vertical on the left, etc, etc04:01
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richardspiritcan anyone help me?04:02
Agent_bobclaydoh:    differance in use of phrase "set in stone"     thought you meant unchangable.   my bad.04:02
Daisuke_Ido!aptfix | richardspirit04:03
uboturichardspirit: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:03
Agent_bobi have got to stop using one word and the ; cause that's my nick completion char...04:03
richardspiriti'll try that thx04:03
* Daisuke_Ido sips a chocolate milk04:03
Daisuke_IdoAgent_bob, no worries04:04
Frederickcool think I might have fixed and now my internet connection hangs04:04
Fredericklong day04:04
TeslaTonyHow do I set up a script to install a bunch of packages? I want to install linux on a computer, and want a bunch of specific packages to go on after04:08
FrederickTeslaTony: shell maybe04:08
Frederickjust type thecomamnd on a .sh file04:08
TeslaTonyThat could do it, although I've had issues with .sh files and sudo04:09
Agent_bobTeslaTony apt can handle a large list of packages at one time, so you can make a list in one file and                      apt-get install `cat listfile`04:09
Agent_bobi don't know how large.   but at least a couple houndred.04:10
TeslaTonyAgent_bob: That certainly sounds promising.04:11
richardspiritit worked thx bot04:11
TeslaTonyIt's be about one or two dozen packages, plus kubuntu-desktop (i'm installing using the ubuntu CD)04:11
Agent_bobTeslaTony note the back ticks "`"   that's a shell specific char,  it causes what's inclosed therein to be executed first.04:12
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Agent_bobexample: echo "ls"   only says "ls" back at you.  but, echo `ls`    outputs the same as the ls command alone.04:14
* PhilRod recommends $( command )04:14
claydohAgent_bob: lol second time today someones done that tome :)04:15
Agent_bobclaydoh yeah i hit you by accident every so often.    seems that  oh; is just part of my vocab.04:17
TeslaTonyAgent_bob: Thanks. I'll try it04:17
claydohheh no problem anyway doesn't bother me at all04:17
Agent_bobclaydoh heh. k.   i'll try to not ring your bell until i need something.  :)04:18
* claydoh probably would be @ werk anyway :)04:18
notebookla version que esta ahorita de kubuntu 8.04  no es la final ?04:20
notebookque cambiara en  2 dias ?04:20
PhilRod!es | notebook04:20
ubotunotebook: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:20
notebookok04:20
notebook#kubuntu-es04:21
Agent_boband i think the answer is yes.04:21
notebookjajaja04:21
notebooksorry04:21
notebookhow change chanel ?04:21
Agent_bob/join #channel04:21
notebookok04:22
notebookbye04:22
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notebookla version que esta ahorita de kubuntu 8.04  no es la final ?04:22
notebookque cambiara en  2 dias ?04:23
notebookah noperdon04:23
notebookme equivoque  again04:23
Agent_bob:)04:23
Agent_bobhello root04:23
Frederickhow do I set java plugin home?04:27
Agent_bobman... i didn't believe the reports of how sorry windoze vesta was... but they were not exagerating04:30
Agent_bobi "logged" in to a fresh install almost 20 minutes ago and the thing hasn't gotten caught up enough for me to do anything yet.04:31
FrederickDAMM folks can one there help me out setting java in swiftweasel?04:33
Hikejinxwhat do you mean frederick?04:33
PhilRod"swiftweasel"? does the Approved Debian Name for firefox change based on phase of the moon or something?04:35
Hikejinxswiftweasel is an optimized version philrod04:36
Hikejinxit's not debian supported04:36
Hikejinxswiftweasel is optimized for various systems04:36
Frederickman04:36
Frederickthis is so ridiculous this distro is so broken04:37
Frederickive done ALL by the books04:37
Frederickand there is no reasonable explanation why this crap broke or why I cant fix irt04:37
Hikejinxwhat is wrong exactly?04:37
Frederickoki firefox32 package simply disapeared to exist, and I got no java in browsers04:38
FrederickIve tried ALL you can imagine04:38
Hikejinxand are you on gutsy?04:38
ghittsumwhy can I not get apache web server per the adept manager?  What am I not doing right?04:39
ghittsumit's not even in the list of things to get04:39
Frederickhardy04:39
ghittsumthanking you in advance for atleast reading my issue04:40
* ghittsum beats his head on the wall.04:41
Agent_bobghittsum i can't answer your question...   but  i can sujest   sudo apt-get install apache204:43
Agent_bob!lamp | ghittsum04:44
ubotughittsum: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:44
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ghittsumthat works04:46
ghittsumthis has been a long week04:46
ghittsumcouldn't find package apache204:47
Agent_bobtry replacing the two with an asterisk04:49
Agent_bobapt takes wild cards04:49
ricardo_hi04:50
munk_can someone help me set up my wireless network with a passphrase encryption? everytime i try it it keeps asking me for the passphrase and then after a while it says it cannot connet...pleasee04:53
ghittsumk04:54
flaccidmunk_: don't you set up the passphrase on your access point?04:54
ghittsumsame....couldnt find04:54
Agent_bobghittsum sounds like you have your sources.list file hosed04:55
ghittsumI only installed kubuntu for the 5th time...04:55
flaccid!info apache2 | ghittsum04:56
ubotughittsum: apache2 (source: apache2): Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 92 kB04:56
flaccidghittsum: check your repos in adept and fix it then update list then see if you can install it. you might want to try sudo apt-cache madison apache2 to see if it come out in the sources after you update them04:57
flaccidme brb04:58
ghittsumoh sweet!  thank you, I think I can manage from here04:59
ll450hi05:01
ll450would installing the upcoming hardy release be better for my situation? (broken cdrom/disk drive, 433mhz, 192mb ram, little hd space)05:02
arcticpenguin380is 5.7GB enough for kubuntu?05:02
Frederickfolks the java packages I have do not install the libjavaplugin_oji.so do you have any ideas about whatcan I do?05:02
ll450i want to try installing kubuntu on my k6 433 laptop just to see how good the opengl support is for the trident card05:03
Agent_bobarcticpenguin380 yes.05:03
Agent_bobarcticpenguin380 i did NOT say it would be enough for your data that you may try to add...05:03
arcticpenguin380for /05:04
ll450yeah, apt-get install fun adventures wouldn't get very far on 6gb05:04
Agent_bobarcticpenguin380 ubuntu will install in about 2 to 2.2 gig without problems   but it is recomended that you give it some slack.   i.e. 4g or more.05:04
ll450my drive is 9gb but only 800mb free atm05:05
Agent_bobll450 really ?    why not ?05:05
Agent_bobhow much of that is in your home ?05:05
ll450when i see the package list i'm like I MUST INSTALL EVERYTHING I SEE05:06
ll4506gb doesn't let you do that :(05:06
Agent_bobcorrect you can't install the whole repos in 6g05:07
ll450wasn't hardy going to have an option to install and boot from an image file?05:08
Agent_bobyou also can't possably use all the packages.  they are too redundant05:08
ll450so i wouldn't partition?05:08
Agent_bobanyone know where in "M$ windoze vesta" one might turn off all the automaticly launched crap, an it stay turned off on reboot ?     or is that just not possable with that peace of crap os ?05:32
Daisuke_Idowell, you could ask in ##windows :)  we aren't masochists here :P05:34
Agent_bobi already got banned from there for misspelling vseta   ;/05:34
ll450lol05:35
ll450hey is the new kubuntu going to give me  a choice to use kde3?05:36
ll450i don't like 405:36
LeabrText hier eingeben...hallo Guten Morgen05:37
Agent_bob!de05:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:37
Agent_boband good morning to you05:37
Leabrok danke05:37
ll450!zh05:37
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk05:37
ll450=D05:37
Agent_bobwelcome05:37
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richardspiritcan anybody help me set up a remoted desktop connection through a vpn connection05:41
richardspiriti was able to get the vpn up but i can't get the remote desktop to work05:42
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richardspirithello05:44
latituhow can i install a bnc ?05:58
flaccidquick question, anyone here have working world of warcraft w/ wine?06:08
Daisuke_Idoflaccid, certainly06:10
Daisuke_Idoyou have to make a couple of changes to your config file06:10
Daisuke_Idoaaand it doesn't like intel graphics06:10
flaccid!wow06:10
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:10
flaccidDaisuke_Ido: ati is ok? do i just follow the wiki guide?06:11
Daisuke_Idoshould be fine06:11
Daisuke_Idojust change the renderer to opengl in the config06:11
flaccidDaisuke_Ido: thats Config.wtf?06:13
Daisuke_Idoflaccid, if i remember right, i haven't played in a while06:14
flaccidnp06:15
flaccidDaisuke_Ido: this is latest 2.4.1 with burning crusade and other add on things, hopefully it goes well. its for my housemate - only thing he needs to get rid of windows06:16
flaccid!info ubufox06:17
ubotuubufox (source: ubufox): modifications for ubuntu firefox (default) install. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 31 kB, installed size 208 kB06:17
flaccidanyone know what those mods are above in that package?06:17
flaccidanybody know why wine doco on wiki asks to use a dif repos when wine is in universe already?06:27
donald_Hey I need help with something, first time in here. When I plug in my headphone into the front jack of my computer, it doesn't disable the back jack so that the speakers stop playing, how can I make it so that it does that?06:36
Aldenorhey people, KD4 works in kubuntu 7.1006:52
Aldenor?06:52
Aldenorkde 4.3*06:52
Jucatosure. #kubuntu-kde4 for questions06:52
Jucatoer... it's only up to 4.0.306:52
Jucatothere's no 4.1 yet :D06:53
Aldenoroka :P thanks06:53
donald_Can somebody tell me how to change Kubuntu's color depth to 16bit color?06:54
donald_Kubuntu 8.0406:54
ubuntuguten morgen06:57
donald_Can somebody tell me how to change Kubuntu's color depth to 16bit color?06:57
flacciddonald_: don't repeat06:57
Jucato!patience | donald_06:57
ubotudonald_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:57
Jucatodonald_: also, #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions06:57
flacciddonald_: im not sure that you can do it in gui, but you can edit default depth directive in /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly06:57
Jucato(you're trying to "downgrade" your color depth?)06:57
donald_yes I am06:57
donald_trying to downgrade from 32bit to 16bit color06:58
flacciddonald_: change         Defaultdepth    32 to         Defaultdepth    16 in section screen then restart X06:58
donald_in /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is no default depth directive06:59
flacciddonald_: you can add one then06:59
flacciddonald_: can go in that section anywhere, but nice to put it on top of SubSection "Display"07:00
donald_Okay I need to be running Kate in Admin mode to edit this file07:00
flacciddonald_: goto run and do kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:00
donald_Okay what should I put in exactly?07:01
donald_Add, I mean07:01
flacciddonald_:  Defaultdepth    1607:02
donald_Section "Device"07:02
donald_Identifier"Configured Video Device"07:02
donald_Defaultdepth    1607:02
donald_EndSection07:02
donald_so that?07:02
flaccid!pastebin > donald_07:03
flaccidyes that07:03
donald_thanks flaccid, let me save it and restart kubuntu07:03
Jucatodonald_: remember to backup your xorg.conf07:03
flaccidcool07:03
Jucatoor at least know how to revert :)07:03
donald_do I have to restart Kubuntu completely?07:04
Jucatono07:04
Jucatojust X07:04
donald_I dunno how to restart just X07:04
donald_lol07:04
flaccidits in the dropdown at the login screen07:04
flaccidafter you logout07:04
donald_kk07:04
donald_thanks :)07:04
flaccidnp07:04
will_tried to settup a proxy.... Opened ktorrent and walla..... ¨could not find usable proxy configuration script¨  anyone have a clue?07:12
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flaccidwhat kind of proxy, will_?07:12
will_i know I enable socks support ¨dante¨07:12
donald_flaccid, and jucato, doing that screwed my kubuntu up, and when it starts up the graphics go all wacky and it won't even continue starting up, how to replace to old file with a new file or edit it from teh live cd?07:13
will_used kcontrol to set it up automatically07:13
bastid_raZori'm running ubuntu/gnome 7.10 .. i have ktorrent 2.2.5 (Using KDE 3.5.8) how would i upgrade to ktorrent 3.0? add the KDE4 repo's?07:14
flacciddonald_: goto ctrl+alt+f2 and login and then do a pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf or copy the backup back to it. no need to use live cd07:14
donald_flaccid, it doesn't even get to the login screen before it fails to start07:14
flaccidwill_: #kde might be able to help if nobody can here07:15
flacciddonald_: yes. you can still use a tty07:15
donald_so while kubuntu is starting up, push ctrl+alt+f2?07:15
will_ok07:15
Jucatothere's no ktorrent channel though07:15
donald_I didnt make a backup like I should've07:16
yandyjoin #kde07:16
flacciddonald_: no. once its started up. you should be able to do it now.07:16
will_thanks everyone07:16
buddyluvhello07:18
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donald_Hey I did what you said, and the TTY thing did come up and I typed what you said and it brung up this other black screen which I had no idea on how to control it07:28
ubuntuguten morgen kann mir wer helfen07:29
ubuntu?07:29
Jucato!de | ubuntu07:29
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:29
donald_Jucato, how can I replace my /etc/X11/xconf.conf file?07:30
donald_If that's the correct directory/file07:31
donald_should I just reinstall Kubuntu 8.04 to fix the problem?07:33
Jucatodonald_: um.. hold on07:33
Jucatoyes, correct file. no, don't reinstall07:33
Jucatois "Defaultdepth" the only line you changed?07:33
donald_yes07:33
donald_I'm in the LiveCD right now looking at the xorg.conf file07:35
flaccidJucato: you could just edit it in pico and press ctrl+x to save it07:35
Jucatook, boot normally into Kubuntu. you would get thrown into a text login prompt07:35
donald_Do you want me to paste the file into a pastebin?07:35
flaccidjust remove the line donald_07:35
donald_I can't it won't let me save it07:35
Jucatodonald_: unless you want to go through the hassle of mounting your hard disk partition and making changes there, you're better off doing it directly07:35
donald_Then please, can you explain to me how to do it?07:36
donald_I've opened up the xorg.conf file in the LiveCD but it says I dont have permission to save it07:37
flacciddonald_: you could just edit it in pico and press ctrl+x to save it07:37
flacciddonald_: thats the xorg.conf on the livecd not your hard disk07:37
flaccidwhich is why its read only as its on a cd07:37
donald_No, I went through the Storage Media, clicked on the drive/partition and went to /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:37
donald_Says 26GB Media07:38
donald_I clicked on that and navigated to /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:38
flaccidmaybe the mount options are wrong not sure07:38
donald_Okay, so how can I edit the xorg.conf file then either from LiveCD or some other place?07:39
jerknextdoordonald_:  can you start it up without the gui?07:40
Jucatodonald_: boot normally... then instead of getting the graphical login, you will either get dumped into a text login prompt or a black screen with the Kubuntu logo, in which case you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a text login prompt07:40
donald_I don't have the slightest idea of how to do that07:40
Jucatothen, once you logged in,use the command "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit your xorg.conf07:41
donald_Okay, i'll try that07:41
flacciddonald_: which is exactly where we got you before07:41
donald_Thanks guys, let me try it again07:42
Jucatowait!!07:42
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donald_okay..07:42
donald_lol07:42
Jucatoonce you're done editing.. Ctrl+O to save and Ctrl+X to exit07:42
Jucatothen "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" to try to get into the graphical login screen again07:43
donald_the kdm restart has a space in between it?07:44
Jucatoyep07:44
donald_okay thanks, gonna go try it07:44
Jucatogood luck07:44
donald_thanks =)07:44
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donald_Woooooooot its fixed!07:48
Jucatonice07:48
jerknextdooranyone know why i'm getting an error while checking for system updates?  it can't verify a public key for wine.07:49
Daisuke_Idojerknextdoor, you get used to that07:50
Daisuke_Idoit's not going to hurt anything07:50
jerknextdoorDaisuke:  thanks.  i just put wine on here the other day so i guess i just hadnt noticed.07:50
rdwhello07:51
rdwmy problem is that when my notebook wakes up my laptop display stays shut. (i use xinerama, my 19" lcd goes awake). my network also stays suspended. any hints?07:52
jerknextdooranyone just get an update for firefox 3b5?07:56
mehello08:05
donald_Can somebody tell me where Firefox installs itself to when you install it from Adept?08:06
Jucatoshould be /usr/bin/, you can find out by using "which firefox"08:06
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donald_I'm trying to important my bookmarks.html file from my Windows partition to the new firefox here, on this Kubuntu partition08:08
donald_import*08:09
donald_so that I have all my bookmarks08:09
Jucatoyou can probably ask in #mozilla (or #firefox if that's the channel) but I think Firefox has a way to export bookmarks then import them elsewhere08:09
freq_fraqHello. I'm trying to install kubuntu from a live cd. the live cd loads OK (I'm currently using Konversation) and error checking says the cd has no errors, but when I'm clicking "install" a window opens, and closes after a few seconds.  anyone has an idea?08:10
flaccidfreq_fraq: you could try the alternate cd08:17
freq_fraqflaccid: I could, but it would take a while...I don't have a burner on this computer, and my access to one is limited (it will take me a week or so burn the alternate CD). I was hoping for a more immediate solution. (BTW, if instead of burning one can use disk-on-key it will be very helpfull. is it possible?)08:19
flaccidfreq_fraq: unfortunately you can't edit a cd08:23
flaccidDaisuke_Ido: wow crashes all the time08:23
flaccidit sux. any WoW people here?08:23
freq_fraqflaccid: edit a cd?  maybe we misunderstood one another. I have a USB flash drive (disk-on-key) of 2GB. I want to install kubuntu (or ubuntu, for that matter) from this drive, instead of a CD. is it possible?08:24
flaccidyes08:25
flaccidyou can install from cd or usb drive08:25
freq_fraqflaccid: great. where can I find instructions on how to do that08:27
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flaccidfreq_fraq: on the wiki08:36
flaccidfreq_fraq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:37
freq_fraqflaccid: thanks a lot, I'll read it.08:38
flaccidno worries, i have one its pretty good ey08:39
SilentDishello :)08:39
* SilentDis is installing Kubuntu 8.04 RC, and was bored lol08:39
jerknextdoorany way to check to see a list of system updates?  i just updated something for firefox and didn't pay attention and now firefox wont start.08:40
SilentDisjerknextdoor: firefox core just updated, yes.  You could hop into adept and revert 1 version without issue probably08:41
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  did you do the update?  if so are you having any problems?08:42
SilentDisjerknextdoor: I just updated it myself, without issue...  did you try renaming your firefox folder?  maybe a goofy plugin is doing it08:43
SilentDisjerknextdoor: ~/.mozilla/firefox/<random string of crap>.default/extensions/* is where they hide.  try just moving that folder to a new name08:45
SilentDisjerknextdoor: alernately, open up a term window, and type `firefox &` (no quotes) and see what errors pop up08:46
jerknextdoorSilentDis:  i'm thinking something else might be going on.  all this stuff is rnning kind of slow.08:47
SilentDisjerknextdoor: then try that last option.  at least you'll get an error message we can work with :)08:47
jerknextdoor603508:47
djdarkmanhow can I downgrade to firefox 2.0? 3.0 is simply a not-working browser for me08:47
SilentDisjerknextdoor: from what i can scry from that error and google, it looks like it's having problems reading a text file type database, probably from an extension or a bookmark or some such.  try moving out your extensions dir and launch again08:50
SilentDisjerknextdoor: only other thing i can think of is if multiple copies are running in the background (quick `killall firefox-bin` should solve that though)08:51
jerknextdoorsilentdis:   nope.  neither of them worked.  the killall killed no processes.08:53
SilentDisjerknextdoor: just to be sure... see if anything firefox related is running:  ps -A | grep -i firefox08:54
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  it tries to start.  a black box comes up.  and then you can see the google search box in the corner.  but then it stops there.  the logo in the tastkmanage is also just an X.08:54
jerknextdoorsilentdis: nothing running.08:55
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SilentDisjerknextdoor: you know, i've seen that...  I *think* i solved that on mine by a quick restart of the x windows system.  Probably something stuck somewhere. try a <ctrl>-<alt>-<backspace>.  You'll loose chat (obviously) but i'll be here.  2hrs for kubuntu update lol08:55
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  that was the first thing i tried actually.  i also restarted kubuntu once since then too.08:56
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  it will only take a few minutes to reinstall completely so i guess i'll just do that.08:57
SilentDisjerknextdoor: huh.  only other thing i can think of is a quick reinstall of firefox.  make sure you backup your bookmarks if you do that, though.08:57
jerknextdoorsilentdis: i just reinstalled it.  it started fine but i got a couple of weird things that popped up in terminal.09:06
SilentDisjerknextdoor: does it function?09:06
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  seems to just fine.  and all of the stuff that popped in the command line was all gnome related so i suppose i'll see if it works the next time i boot into gnome (which is rare)09:07
SilentDisjerknextdoor: I see weird errors for virtually any app i run from term.  usually debugging and such09:08
jerknextdoorsilentdis: yeah, that's probably all it is.  i didnt think of that.  i don't run apps from the term that much.09:09
SilentDisjerknextdoor: I run kopete on my crappy little laptop off of my main box.  you should see the term window fill up lol09:10
jerknextdoorhaha09:10
SilentDisjerknextdoor: the latest one is "Very strange! got a DCOPReplyFailed opcode, but we were not waiting for a reply!" over and over... yet it all seems to be working just fine lol09:12
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  oh that's good.09:12
tiberius1701go figure i took out my ati x1650 pro card and started using the onboard gforce 6150 graphics, compiz run perfect and even movies and games have better quality09:14
SilentDistiberius1701: I switched to nvidia a while ago myself.  way better linux support.  i hear intel chips are really nice too09:14
tiberius1701well i still got my amd im going keep that09:15
SlimeyPetehe means intel video chips09:16
SilentDistiberius1701: yeah, sorry 'bout that.  Intel vid chipsets.09:16
* SilentDis is an AMD64 user as well :)09:16
tiberius1701strange thing is i know that ati card should be better than my onboard, but i guess ati just has crappy drivers or somthing09:16
SlimeyPeteyes, very crappy.09:17
tiberius1701anyone wanna buy an ati card09:17
SilentDistiberius1701: they have said they'll be working on their driver and support for linux... but it hasn't happened yet.  nvidia is usually about 1 or 2 versions behind the windows versions, but they work great09:17
tiberius1701yea i can tell, i had hell with the ati and compiz09:18
* SilentDis spins the cube while watching futurama and distro updates and 3 web browsers are open :D09:18
tiberius1701sweet09:19
SilentDisthe GF just got a brand new laptop.  she was using my machine for a while.  the laptop came with vista, but she hated it, gonna throw 8.04 on it when it finally releases :)09:20
SilentDisshe's struggling and complaining about IE quite a bit, it's cute.  lmao09:20
tiberius1701IE sucks09:21
tiberius1701oh and so does vista09:22
SilentDisyeah.  it runs really slow on the machine too.  which really is quite sad for how decent the machine is09:22
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  i used adept to uninstall firefox, but now i have multiple firefox folders and my icons aren't associated with the right one.  any idea why adept wouldn't have removed the original one?09:22
SilentDis2gb ram and a 2.4ghz processor should NOT take 5 min to come up.09:23
tiberius17015 MINS09:23
tiberius1701vistas a hog09:24
SilentDisyeah.  that's what i said.  on a damn laptop.09:24
SilentDiswasting 1/20 of your battery life on booting up is really a letdown lol09:24
tiberius1701i wouldnt get rid of vista though, just incase there a good direct x10 game you wanna play, if it will even run09:25
SilentDisaye, we've made the backup disks, just in case ;)09:26
tiberius1701good idea09:26
SilentDisshe plays WoW, reads e-mail, and browses the web.  kubuntu is more than she needs lol09:27
dubbyhey anyone im trying to get wma on amarok09:28
dubbyanyone know what library or something would help me out09:28
jerknextdoorsilentdis:  if you replied to my last question, my virtualbox crashed so i'm givin up that stuff for the night i believe before i throw my comp out the window.09:28
nicknackhi, i'm currently using the kubuntu/hardy (amd64)livecd and want to give kde4 a try, how can i start kde4?09:28
SilentDisjerknextdoor: I'm unsure why it didn't remove 'em.09:28
tiberius1701i think the main reason with help a os boot up faster would also be the hdd, some even do raid, but you got a laptop, so hardy im sure will boot up pretty good09:29
SilentDisnicknack: if you're on livecd, you need the livecd with KDE4 on it.  not sure if it's out yet or not.09:29
nicknackSilentDis: okay, i gonne have a look, tnx09:29
SilentDisdubby: I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and many of my WMAs started working.  medibuntu also helped out with a few more.  if they're encrypted though... you're up a creek, i'm afraid09:29
nicknacklooks like i missed that: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/rc/09:30
SilentDisnicknack: yep, that's the one you need :)09:32
kmorrisseyhi all, newby here09:32
SilentDisnicknack: otherwise, you can install what you've got, and install kde4-core afterwords to get 'er going :)09:32
SilentDiskmorrissey: welcome to the revolution! :D09:32
kmorrisseyis this the place to ask for technical help!?09:33
kmorrisseyHi SilentDis09:33
SilentDiskmorrissey: depends.  if we don't have the answer, we can at least direct you where to go to get them :)09:33
kmorrisseythank you! Is there a way of getting my old windows start key to work the K menu, I tried in keyboard shortcuts but it wont allow me to assign the key without another key with it09:34
kmorrisseyI noticed KDE-4 can do this09:35
SilentDiskmorrissey: the windows key is usually the <super> key in kubuntu.  should be able to just select it outright if i'm not mistaken09:35
kmorrisseybut I found it very unstable so I installed kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 309:35
Jucatokmorrissey: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255274209:36
kmorrisseyI tried that but it wont accept just the super key, it only works with another key i.e <super>+s09:36
JucatoSilentDis, kmorrissey: by default, you can only use modifier keys in tandem with normal keys. no pure modifier keys combo09:37
mehey09:37
mei finally got it working09:37
SilentDisJucato: thanks.  at least you got an answer kmorrissey :)09:37
mestupid monitor09:37
SilentDisme: grats and junk and stuff :D09:37
kmorrisseyyes thank you Jucato I am reading it now09:37
medoes anyone ever have problems when you boot up your linux and stops working09:37
methe monitor09:38
mesays 1280x something is the optinual mode09:38
mei found a way to get around it though09:38
SilentDisme: define 'stops working'.  as in a blank screen?  can you hit <ctrl><alt><f1> and get to a term at least?09:38
meyeah09:38
meit boot right09:38
mewith the txt09:38
methen when it gets to gfx the screen goes black09:38
meand says 1260 or something is optimal09:39
meim using a lcd monitor09:39
SilentDisme: if you can get to a prompt (on one of your other terms) try reconfiguring your vid card.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:39
SilentDisme: that'll take you through setting up the proper vid card, and proper resolution for your monitor09:39
mebut i found a way around it. by resetting the computer with the monitor unpluged and then plug it back up when it gets to the log in screen09:39
mea new disturbution upgrade is avaliabe aswell should i upgrade ?09:40
meit wont give me the beta version will it coz i just uninstalled that coz it was rubbish for me09:40
SilentDisme: sounds like it hits a bad refresh rate and freaks out.  what about just turning the monitor off/on?  I would reconfigure xserver though09:40
methat doesn work09:41
meu have to have it off b4 the gfx start09:41
methen back on once they load09:41
mebut onces im at the login screen its all good09:41
meshould i upgrade my disturbution09:41
meor not ?09:41
meits asking me if i want to09:42
SilentDisme: try doing the reconfigure.  it might just need a proper setup.09:42
SilentDisme: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:42
mehow are you today SilentDis ?09:44
SilentDisme: bored while i install kubuntu 8.04 RC :)09:44
mei just installed the beta09:44
meuninstalled09:44
mei mean09:44
SilentDisme: beta or RC?09:45
mebeta09:45
SilentDisme: the RC was just released09:45
meyeah09:45
mei was going to upgrade to it from beta09:45
mebut everyone said its to much trouble :(09:45
kmorrisseyanother question if you please09:46
kmorrisseyMy folders all open on single click, I cant find a setting to enable double click to open.09:47
SilentDiskmorrissey: the setting is in KMenu > System Settings > Window Behavior09:48
kmorrisseythank you09:50
SilentDisyeppers :)09:50
mehow do i find out what version of linux i have09:50
SilentDis!version | me09:51
ubotume: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell09:51
meUbuntu 7.1009:51
meRelease:        7.1009:51
meCodename:       gutsy09:51
meis that the latest09:51
meother then the beta and rc09:51
SilentDisme: yes, that's the latest released version.  8.04 will be out fully by the end of the month.  the RC just came out09:51
mewhat it going to be like09:52
mesame lol ?09:52
SilentDis!upgrade | me09:52
ubotume: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:52
kmorrisseyi must be stuppid coz I cznt see any setting to enable double click in windows behaviour09:52
SilentDisme: the notes also have an overview of what's changed09:52
DreadKnightSilentDis: out in 2 days...09:56
SilentDisDreadKnight: rockin' thanks :)09:56
DreadKnightxD09:56
SilentDiskmorrissey: I'm not seeing the option either, not sure where that option is anymore lol09:57
kmorrisseyOh well, I will have to let go of windblows!09:58
DreadKnightkmorrissey: in kde 3.5; kmenu/system settings/mouse&keyboard/mouse/general tab/icons category/double click chekc box09:59
DreadKnightkde3*09:59
kmorrisseyhas anyone tried KDE 4 and found it unstable, I install the Beta of kunbuntu with KDE 4 and found it very unstable09:59
SilentDisthanks DreadKnight, it's been a while since i've needed that :)09:59
Jucatokmorrissey: #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 inquiries09:59
kmorrisseythankyou dreadknight09:59
DreadKnightkmorrissey: unstable and slugish and incomplete xD09:59
DreadKnightnp guys09:59
kmorrisseyi c10:00
DreadKnightwait for kde 4.1 at least (ETA is for july i think)10:00
kmorrisseyoh i c differrent channel for different queries, sorry still new10:00
SilentDisI'd like to see KDE4.  I'm impatient and grabbing 8.04 now lol10:01
DreadKnighti've been using hardy for weeks10:01
DreadKnightnot much will change until 24th, just some bugfixes..10:02
SilentDisDreadKnight: i figured as much.  was gonna hop on the last beta, but never got around to it lol10:02
DreadKnight:-)10:03
SilentDisso long as I can still run WoW, I'll be happy lmao10:03
DreadKnighthehe10:03
DreadKnightat least blizzards games work on linux10:03
meWoW10:04
SilentDisyep.  and so long as SC2 works in linux, I'll continue to be happy.  the vid of that one looks AWESOME lol10:04
mewill theme hospital work ?10:04
mehehe10:04
meas long as doom 1 works on linux ill be happy10:04
SilentDisme: do you know if it's DirectX, OpenGL?10:04
DreadKnightme: maybe, it needs opengl for graphics10:05
meits a old game10:05
SilentDisme: lmao natively for that one :D10:05
meremember theme park ?10:05
DreadKnightWine-Doors will port Direct-X to linux ;)10:05
mewine10:05
DreadKnightas far as i can tell10:05
mei hope its got better last time i had linux installed10:05
SilentDisme: theme hospital then should work just fine via wine, or at the most cedega/wine-doors/etc10:05
DreadKnightwine-doors is a..... branch of wine10:05
tzdi am unable to activate my belkin usb bluetooth dongle in hardy, can someone please help?10:05
melinux makes me a lil horny10:06
SilentDisme: TMI!10:06
meTMI ?10:06
SilentDistzd: unplug it, then plug it back in, and type dmesg | tail.  !pastebin it so we can see what's going on :)10:06
SilentDisme: Too Much Information10:06
mehaha10:06
DreadKnightxD10:06
DreadKnightthere is no spoon10:07
mei keep double clicking lol10:07
DreadKnightwhy double click when you can single click?10:07
mei know10:07
DreadKnightthere is no going back when you get used to it10:07
mejust need to get used to it10:07
DreadKnight:-)10:07
Farzad!java10:07
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:07
SilentDisDreadKnight: there is no spoon... at taco bell.  damn spork-lovers. :P10:08
mewhere about do u guys live ?10:08
DreadKnightSilentDis: i'll take your word for that :D10:08
DreadKnightme: at home, in front of the pc10:08
DreadKnightme: kidding, Europe/Romania10:08
me24/7 lol10:08
Roeyce faci, DreadKnight?10:09
DreadKnightbine ^^10:09
tzdSilentDis: http://pastebin.com/d66d0343310:09
mehey how do i go through my isp as the mirror to download updates and software10:09
SilentDisme: I exist in the same plane of reality and time as you, and generally close to your general location, galactically speaking :D10:09
RoeyDreadKnight:  do you mind coming to #linguistics for a sec?10:09
* DreadKnight has a feeling that someone will cone and write !offtopic xD10:09
* SilentDis hides10:09
DreadKnightRoey: ok i've joined, you should probably support #ubuntu-ro too :D10:10
SilentDistzd: the last 2 lines are what we're looking for.  Linux sees it, but has no idea what to do with it.  so it assigns it... nothing, basically lol10:10
RoeyDreadKnight:  heh10:11
SilentDisbrb.  gonna scavenge for food.10:13
tzdSilentDis: ok, how do i reassign it?10:13
SilentDistzd: you'll need to do some research.  you *might* be able to get it to work by giving the kernel a new driver or the like.  is there a model number on this thing?10:13
SilentDistzd: when i find stuff like that, I usually search for "model number" linux and see what turns up.  usually someone else has tried it before and got it working10:14
tzdSilentDis: ok, I'll have a look... it worked with gutsy but since my upgrade yesterday to hardy nothing.10:15
tzdSilentDis: thanks for your help10:15
SilentDistzd: I can think of a few very unelegant hacks to force it (square peg, round hole, large hammer) methods... but i'd rather try to find you something that really works and works well lol10:15
kmorrisseythanks for your help. cu10:16
SilentDistzd: ahhh... if it worked in gutsy but not in hardy, i'm gonna bet on some little driver that needs to be activated, nothing more :)10:16
tzdSilentDis: yeah that's what I'm thinking too :)10:16
tzdSilentDis: found the info now after googling with the model no. Thanks :) I'll be back if that solution doesnt work ;)10:18
SilentDistzd: rockin!  glad you found it :)10:18
SilentDistzd: some little modprobe?10:18
tzdSilentDis: yep, have to blacklist pegasus kernel... (i have no idea what that means but there are detailed instructions so shouldn't be too difficult)10:19
ultrav1oletHow can I install freetype with BYTECODE interpreter and improvements for LCD display?10:20
SilentDisultrav1olet: hmm... that's a new one on me!  let me poke ubotu :)10:20
SilentDis!lcd10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:20
SilentDis!freetype10:20
ultrav1oletI can compile freetype manually but I'd like to know if there's an official way of doing that10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:20
SilentDis!info freetype10:20
ubotuPackage freetype does not exist in gutsy10:20
ultrav1oletLOL10:21
SilentDishmm....10:21
ultrav1oletany other ideas?10:21
ultrav1oletit's called libfreetype610:21
SilentDisultrav1olet: I can't poke around in adept right now, it's a bit busy lol10:21
SilentDis!info libfreetype610:21
ubotulibfreetype6 (source: freetype): FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.5-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 340 kB, installed size 640 kB10:21
ultrav1oletOK, and where can I fetch an unrestrestricted freetype?10:22
SilentDis!libfreetype10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libfreetype - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:22
SilentDisaargh, i can't stay up any longer.  I guess i'll complete my install tomorrow lol10:25
SilentDisg'night all :)10:25
KetrelOn Gutsy, does anyone use guidance-power-manager AND have the python-sexy package installed AND NOT have guidance lockup when they bring up the main window?10:31
skabetI have a problem where my sound card stoped working after i installed a new kernel(through apt-get). Anything i should run for the sound card to be loaded again?10:34
sebbardo I need anything besides libxine-extracodecs to play m3u files with amarok?10:34
amerigo! games10:36
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php10:36
me! games10:39
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php10:39
meim updating my distro10:42
meits downloaded it and is now installing the upgrades10:42
mebut has been on 0 percent for ages10:42
meis there anything i can do10:42
martijn_nerdhello, anyone who knows how to turn off composite/aiglx for an ati card with the opensource drivers?10:43
medoesnt seem to be anyone here10:44
me:(10:44
DreadKnightxD10:46
meare u guys running mirc ?10:47
KetrelI am10:47
Ketrelbut I'm on Windows right now10:47
meoh10:48
Ketreldo you need help with it?10:48
mehow do i add my iinet isp to the mirror list10:48
meso it downloads updates etc through my isp10:48
meso it doesnt go towards my monthly download quota10:48
KetrelHmm, I can't say I'm familiar with that. I've never had that sort of situation10:49
kblinhi folks10:49
kblinI've got a cifs share set up in /etc/fstab, but that's not mounted on booting. I presume that's because when the mounting is done, the network isn't up yet10:52
kblinis there any problem with doing a mount -a at the end of /etc/rc.local?10:53
mebrb10:54
KetrelI just need to get it out there that Almonds are extremely awesome.10:58
ere4siwalnuts are ok too!11:02
KetrelYes, but Almonds have more crunch, unless you mess up and forget to take the shell off.11:03
ere4sihehe11:05
makdaknifeKetrel: i believet that with shell they would still have more crunch... but maybe this conversation should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic ?11:07
Ketrelmakdaknife: what if I said it was a kalmond?11:07
makdaknife:-)11:08
kblinwhat the...11:12
kblinI just upgraded a box to hardy and the network interface is gone11:12
kblinlspci doesn't list it anymore11:13
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kblincrap11:49
kblinthis system is really driving me nuts11:49
makdaknifekblin: what's up?11:52
kblinmakdaknife: I did a dist-upgrade on three identical pcs11:52
makdaknifekblin: and one of them isn't working like the others?11:53
kblinmakdaknife: two are working fine, the boss' computer doesn't recognize it's network card anymore11:53
me_hey11:53
jackuntuhiya are there torrents available for 8.04 or do i have to wait another couple of days, just finished building a new machine and am itching to install :)11:53
kblineven if I boot the bloody kernel that feisty was using11:53
me_when i reboot i always have to put the power cord out and then when its gone to the login screen put the power cord to my monitor back11:53
kblinwhere I did a network upgrade, mind you11:54
makdaknifekblin: hmmm doesn't sound good...11:54
makdaknifekblin: you have the same problem booting off the old kernel?11:54
kblinyes11:55
kblinnetwork card doesn't show up in lspci11:55
kblinand it's on-board11:55
kblinit's enabled in the bios, I checked that11:55
me_doesnt kubuntu play avi's ?11:55
kblinjust booting a feisty livecd and checking from there11:56
makdaknifekblin: anything in dmesg11:56
kblinnothing with eth0 in it11:56
makdaknifekblin: hmmm sounds like a good start11:56
kblinit's like the driver isn't loading at all11:56
makdaknifekblin: do you know what module it should be loading?11:56
kblinwhich surprises the heck out of me, because it was working with the old kernel before11:56
me_can i play avi movies ?11:57
makdaknifekblin: presuming that you can check that on the other machines11:57
makdaknifeme_: sure11:57
makdaknifeme_: try kaffeine11:57
makdaknifeme_: or VLC11:57
kblinmakdaknife: r8169, it seems11:58
clau30kblin: maybe do a sudo modprobe <networkCardDriverName>11:58
kblinmakdaknife: it's a RTL8168b/8111b chipset11:58
makdaknifekblin: as clau30 says... try a modprobe11:58
kblinclau30, makdaknife: load, but doesn't change a thing11:59
kblin*loads11:59
dystopianrayapparently kdm doesn't work properly with nvidia drivers in kubuntu hardy?12:00
me_where can i get vlc from ?12:00
kblinit's not recognized on the livecd either :/12:00
kblinI'm sure it used to work there12:00
clau30kblin: what does ifconfig show?12:00
ere4si!info vlc12:00
makdaknifekblin: odd... it really does sound like the onboard card may be faulty12:00
ubotuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 1135 kB, installed size 3228 kB12:00
me_!info vlc12:01
kblinclau30: only lo012:01
makdaknifekblin: especially if you have two other machines working fine with the same card12:01
kblinclau30: dmesg doen't show anything new when I load the driver either12:01
clau30kblin: agree with makdaknife, sounds very strange12:02
kaminix#cardholder #card #kanjibig p { margin:0; padding:0; font:100pt 'Hiragino Mincho Pro','ヒラギノ明朝 Pro W3','MS 明朝','MS P明朝', serif; }   <--- Out of these fonts I do have MS 明朝 (MS Mincho), yet it still won't render correctly. Why?12:02
clau30and lsmod | grep <driver>? kblin12:02
makdaknifekblin: I did see somewhone use `modprobe r1000` in a forum for the 8111b chipset...12:02
kblinclau30: it's loaded12:02
kaminixIn KWord it lists as MS Mincho, can I somehow link it to list as both MS Mincho and MS 明朝12:03
makdaknifes/somewhone/someone/12:03
kblinclau30: funny thing is that the card doesn't show up in lspci12:03
clau30kblin: then something is wrong with the card... or cable (try to unplug)12:03
clau30and maybe do a restart (you have done that probably :)12:03
makdaknifekblin: definitely sounds like a dodgy card... you will prolly save a lot of time just replacing it... nics are cheap after all12:04
kblinclau30: the cable seems fine. the card itself is happily blinking it's LEDs12:04
kblinmakdaknife: onboard?12:04
kblinmakdaknife: not that I care, the system is about a month old12:04
makdaknifekblin: you should have a couple of PCI slots available if the mobo is reasonable12:04
clau30kblin: hm, dunno what to say..12:05
kblinmakdaknife: dunno. I'm not going to void my warranty by opening it12:05
me_makdaknife does how fast do you set your mouse cursor ?12:06
kblinmy (software engineer) opinion is that the hardware is faulty and decided to break in the same moment I did my upgrade my coincidence12:06
makdaknifekblin: hmmm it definitely seems to be hardware related... if new kernel/old kernel/live cd and a comparison with two other functional machines using the same os and hardware12:06
kblinI just know the shop's going to complain because I blasted the windows they painstakingly installed there :)12:07
kblinbut that's their problem12:07
makdaknifeme_: I'm not sure what you are asking, can you rephrase?12:07
kblinif they want to install a windows there and prove me wrong, I'm all for that12:07
makdaknifekblin: sure.... just make sure home is backed up etc12:08
kblinmakdaknife, clau30: thanks for the ideas, in any case12:08
makdaknifekblin: sorry couldn't be of more assistance12:08
kblinmakdaknife: the system was about to go into production, nothing on there yet12:08
clau30kblin: yea me too :/12:08
kblinmakdaknife, clau30: ha, no sweat. having the reassurance that I didn't overlook something obvious is nice as well12:09
Bauldrickhi - does flash work with ff3? (ff3 comes with hardy, no?)12:11
dcorbin_workWhen I run rdesktop, it fails.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7758/  Suggestions on how to fix it?12:11
SilentDisBauldrick: i just upgraded to 8.04 RC, let me check out youtube :)12:12
Bauldrickta12:12
makdaknifeBauldrick: seems fine for me12:13
SilentDisBauldrick: Chad Vader - Day Shift Manager seems to work just fine :D12:13
Bauldrickthanks, upgrade it is then :)12:14
SilentDisfear chad vader. or he'll chuck fruit at you from 40 feet away :D12:14
makdaknifewhy they set ff3beta as the default browser eludes me... using beta software in a distro release is not a good idea... for one thing, half my extensions stopped working12:14
makdaknifeit doesn't give a great impression to new users12:15
Bauldrickmakdaknife: I agree, suppose you can go back though12:15
* makdaknife thinks maybe he should head over to #ubuntu+1 if he is going to gripe about hardy12:15
SilentDismakdaknife: I'm a konqueror user.  only thing i was firing up the fox for anymore was a little youtube (seemed to handle some of the pages better is all)12:16
makdaknifeSilentDis: I keep telling myself to make the change... but I love some of my extensions :-(12:16
SilentDismakdaknife: that's totally understandable. :)12:17
makdaknifeSilentDis: konqi does rock though... and its much nicer to have a browser that integrates with the rest of your DE so well... especially wrt file management etc12:17
SilentDismakdaknife: yep, and one that actually is standard compliant and works... unlike some other 'integraded' browsers provided by other US-West-Coast based companies... ;)12:18
kblinwhat the...12:19
kblinI just booted without the cable being plugged in, and voila, there's eth012:19
makdaknifekblin: miracle?12:19
* kblin goes to replace the cable, just in case12:19
SilentDismay linus be with you :D12:20
Bauldrickand how do i change that silhuotte head on login screen?! i'd like a pic from about me to be there12:21
kblinBauldrick: iirc, k-menu->system settings->login settings12:22
kblinBauldrick: might be in the "advanced" menu12:22
kblinin any case system settings is a good place to start looking12:22
drifhow could I throttle my eth-traffic?12:23
drifanything else than cbq?12:23
SilentDistake care all, i'm off to beddie bye :)12:24
makdaknifekblin: any answers?12:24
me_why does it say break install ?12:25
me_how do i make it install god damn it12:25
ds187drif: just out of curiosity: why would one like to throttle the eth-traffic?12:25
dcorbin_workds187: for development, simulating slow connections.12:25
ds187ah, i see12:26
me_what is eman12:26
me_break install12:26
dcorbin_workThat's one reason anyway.12:26
me_im in apdept manager12:26
me_and it tried to install vlc12:26
drifds187: also technique which applies to 'internet' traffic is welcome12:26
me_and it say break install ?12:26
me_wtf12:26
ds187drif: for throttling internet traffic just startup your edonkey client and wait for a few minutes ;-)12:27
me_can someone answer me12:28
drifds187: eh.. I was hoping to achieve it _without_ any additional traffic :D so I can provide it for 'higher' purposes12:28
ds187drif: google just told me something about trickle: http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle12:29
jpatrick!ohmy | me_12:29
ubotume_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:29
ds187drif: or do you search something completly different12:30
drifds187: so you looked for bandwidth shaper? I was after throttling, bandwidth etc. and didn't come up with that page12:30
drifds187: hard to say - on first glimpse this could suite my purposes12:30
dcorbin_workadept_manager is not showing me an "open-ssl-dev" package.  should it?  I w12:31
ds187drif: i googled for "throttling bandwidth" which brought me to a wikipedia article about bandwidht throttling and there where some external links to bandwidth shapers :-)12:32
drifds187: ah, found the cbq on repositories - but only with shaper searchword, not with plain cbq12:32
jpatrick!info openssl-dev | dcorbin_work12:32
ubotudcorbin_work: Package openssl-dev does not exist in gutsy12:32
jpatrickgah, sorry dcorbin_work12:33
dcorbin_workubotu: I'm running a configure command and it complains it cannot find my openSSL directory.  I don't see any includes for it.  Should they be there?12:33
drifds187: so thanks for nodging me into the right direction :D shaping was the word12:34
dcorbin_work!info openssl | dcorbin_work12:35
ds187drif: i have to thank you. now i know there are people out there who would throttle their bandwidth just because they can :-)12:35
drifds187: and wondershaper seems to be the easiest method12:36
drifds187: although I'm not sure if one needs also shaper and/or shaperd packages - managed to install in shaper,shaperd,wondershaper order12:37
kblinmakdaknife: well, seems to be working now. man, if I hadn't seen this myself I'd tell the user off for being unable to use his system ;)12:40
makdaknifekblin: heh... I must admit I would not have a load of confidence with that at the moment12:40
makdaknifekblin: check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/12181512:40
drifds187: ehm, better stick with cbq I guess - wondershaper somehow made my ssh laggy - so I need to give prioritites over certain services and wondershaper ain't the tool12:41
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kbliner, just a sec, need to switch to a box where I have a gui12:41
kblinlaunchpad is a pain in elinks12:41
kblinmakdaknife: looks different to what I'm seeing12:45
jan__Heya!12:45
jan__Can somebody help me ;)12:45
jan__When i'm trying to run cs 1.6 server ,it says something like: unnable to connect authenticated steam server.12:46
jan__It's go up, but there is no vac :/12:46
jan__Have some screenshot :)12:46
noaXessunder systemsettings / apperance / gtk styles and fonts can be a scrollbarfix installed for firefox an thunderbird.. how to uninstall this fix?12:46
jan__sry bad enlish12:46
jan__When i'm trying to run cs 1.6 server ,it says something like: unnable to connect authenticated steam server.12:51
jan__:/12:51
eharrysay12:51
espereguAnyone knows what might control the shift to stay on after pressing it? Is that configurable somewhere?13:00
Dr_willisIve seen some 'features' befor to enable sticky-keys.. but ive never noticed them being enabled by default.13:01
Dr_willisaccesability features, sort of things.13:01
espereguDr_willis: yeah. seams to make a difference13:01
espereguthx!13:01
esperegushould everything be disabled there?13:01
Dr_willisthats the kind of things i see in windioes that gets triggered onceya start playing a game and hit shift/ctrl a few timnes fast.. :)13:02
Dr_willissuch an annoying feature13:02
Dr_willisive never had an issue with it being enabled under kde by default.. when in doubt disable them all13:02
espereguDr_willis: well.13:02
esperegukubuntu also somehow 'automaticly' enables them..13:03
espereguI've been trying to debug my keyboard the whole morning, not understanding why it suddenly is 'sticky'13:03
Dr_williscant say that ive ever seen it on by default. but if you keep your /home seperate - it might of been somting i turned off ages and ages ago13:04
esperegu=)13:04
v6luris there a way to make a konqueror servicemenu "send file with skype" (like in windows)?13:15
squid0hi. has anyone had any experience using the kde obex (bluetooth) sending tool with multiple local bluetooth devices? I can't select which bt device to use to send, where I have 2 possible ones13:30
mehello13:31
mei really really need some help13:31
meim going insane13:31
mestupid lcd monitor13:31
mesamsung peice of crap !13:31
Tm_Tme: stop, wait one minute, then rephrase your issue ;)13:32
mewhen i turn on the computer everything loads grub etc. then when it comes to the gfx the lcd screen goes blank. But sometimes if i pull out the power cord to the lcd when i turn it on then put it back when it loads to the login screen it sometimes works !13:34
mesays sometimes to not optimal reso13:34
meand when the lcd went on standby it didnt come back just blank !13:35
mecan anyone help me ?>13:36
Dr_willisif its being told to use a res it cant handle it will do that.13:36
Dr_willisI like my samsung 226bw13:36
mei have a samsung syncmaster 913v13:39
mebut how can i change it13:39
mei love this kubuntu feel but if i am unable to fix this i will have to go to vista13:39
Dr_willisare you using dvi or vga conector?13:40
medvi ?13:40
mevga i think13:40
Dr_willisand whats your video card.13:40
me6600GT nvidia13:40
Dr_willisif using VGA..  ick.. if you can use DVI then use DVI.13:40
reel_hi, is there a key to activate code-folding in kdevelop for the whole file instead of folding each function ?13:41
mewhat is dvi ?13:41
mehow can i tell the diff13:41
Dr_williswith my system and some nvidia cards. I could not set the res properly on the monitors to some ranges. Untill i installed the nvidia drivers.13:41
Dr_willisvga = the old fashined ones you have seen for years.13:41
Dr_willisdvi - different look/conectors13:41
mevga13:42
meits all i know13:42
Dr_willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI13:42
mei got the nvidia driver installed13:42
Dr_willisgiven how much better dvi looks then vga.. I would throw away the vga cables and use dvi if you possibially can.13:42
mei got the monitor working now....... with a trick i did but its really annoying pulling out the cord everytime i boot up and waiting for the login screen and sometimes that doesnt even work13:43
Dr_willisyou dont gain anything by using vga on mondern hardware that supports dvi.13:43
meit doesnt have a dvi cord plug13:43
methrow the lcd away ? lol13:43
methrow it at the FUCKING WINDOW13:43
mehahah13:43
mesorry ubot13:43
Dr_willisI have gotten rid of all my old lcd's that dident support dvi.13:43
mei got this lcd for giving a friend a bottle of spirits13:44
Dr_willisit is well worth the $$ to upgrade to a newer monitor that can handle dvi. The picture will look MUCh nicer.13:44
meim poor13:44
mei read gas metres13:44
melol13:44
Dr_willisplus DVI can send the proper info back to the video card. so you rarely have mode issues.13:44
Dr_willisive told this to several gamers at work and they dident belive me.. Untill they Finally got a dvi monitor...13:45
Dr_willisThen they were like.. "i wished i had changed ages ago! i can read the little fonts now!'13:45
Dr_willis"_13:45
melol13:45
meill bbl man13:45
meramsey kitchens on13:45
Tm_T!ohmy | me13:50
ubotume: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:50
Dr_willisLawmaker calls for no-cost, porn-free, wireless 'Net access ..... Hmm... i would rather see 'spam' free.. :)13:59
oldmanemuanyone know if there is a dsl (damn small linux) irc channel?14:02
Dr_willis#DSL last i looked..if anyone was in there14:03
Picioldmanemu: try /msg chanserv list *dsl*14:03
Dr_willisUser Forums  http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi14:03
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henkiIs it a log somewhere about the latest updates/upgrades done with the update_manager?14:05
henkisorry adept_manager14:06
tzd i have an issue with my ipod shuffle (1gb) and hardy. When i plug in my ipod Amarok and Kontact hangs. I have to reboot to get it working. Can someone please help me?14:10
ds187!nvidia14:15
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:15
geniitzd: Since Hardy isn't officially supported yet, please try #ubuntu+114:26
tzdgenii: thanks!14:26
geniitzd: Good luck with it14:26
BluesKajhowdy14:26
gribouillecan I install the rc of 8.04 safely ?14:26
geniiBluesKaj: Hi :)14:27
BluesKajhi genii :)14:27
BluesKajgribouille: if you have low end ati graphics , you'll be disappointed with Hardy14:28
gribouilleBluesKaj, why ?14:28
BluesKaj<---may be forced into investing in a stand alone graphics card14:28
gribouilleBluesKaj, what's the problem ?14:29
BluesKajgribouille: no 3D or DRI14:29
geniigribouille: The Release Candidate is fairly safe to upgrade to, but you still may want to wait til after official is out (2 days is not that long to wait)14:29
gribouillegenii, what can happen in 2 days ?14:29
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gribouilleBluesKaj, is it worse than gutsy ?14:30
geniigribouille: Fixes,patches14:30
BluesKajI just tried it out and the restricted driver used in Gutsy isn't available14:30
gribouillegenii, are there known issues with the rc ?14:31
BluesKajunless you install it yourself and try to edit the xorg.conf file14:31
gribouilleis it possible to install kubuntu without burning a CD ?14:31
geniigribouille: A couple bugs on Launchpad so far, yes14:31
BluesKajgribouille: just a simple warning ... I would wait for the official release14:31
tzdhow come the app "gwenview" is default in kubuntu? Or perhaps it's just me that might have installed it after?14:32
Jucatotzd: it is the default in Kubuntu. and it's the default in KDE 4 now as well14:34
gribouilleis it possible to install kubuntu without burning a CD ?14:34
tzdJucato: ok. What about ksquirrel... that sounds a bit more like a KDE app to me but then again I'm a *nix newbie14:35
Jucatohuh?14:35
Jucatogwenview is a kde app, if that's what you're wondering about14:35
Jucato(fwiw, ksquirrel looks exactly like gwenview...)14:36
albuntuhello to all. can anyone tell me please a good and easy gui application to watermark videos with my own image ?14:46
Admiral_Chicagoalbuntu: have you tried kino?14:47
geniialbuntu: Since you also asked in #ubuntu ... KDE or Gnome?14:47
Admiral_Chicagoi've never done video editing but i know Kino is promoted by many14:47
albuntugenii: kde thanks. i am going to try kdenlive14:50
albuntusomeone suggested it to me in #ubuntu14:51
W8TAHanyone here know how to make konversation play a sound on receipt of a message in Query or DCC chat?14:51
JucatoW8TAH: Settings -> Configure Notifications14:51
W8TAHJucato: ive checked there -- i dont see anything relating to pms14:52
Ace2016Hi al14:55
Ace2016all*14:55
Ace2016what wireless manager do you use?14:55
BluesKajconfigure konversation/highlight/enable sound for highlighted items14:55
kaminixHow would I make a font alias so that a made up font name links to another font?15:00
jhutchins_wkkaminix: why?15:04
kaminixjhutchins_wk: I'm not sure pages linking to MS ゴッチク will get MS Gothic on my system. :/15:05
enriquespanish15:05
enriquesend please the link for spanish15:07
Admiral_Chicago!es15:07
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.15:07
rdwmy problem is that when my notebook wakes up my laptop display stays shut. (i use xinerama, my 19" lcd goes awake). my network also stays suspended. any hints?15:14
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sylwuchnahi15:25
SlimeyPetehi15:25
sylwuchnaits working15:25
sylwuchna:]15:25
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venikis the RC release the same as the final release, or should I wait a few more days?15:36
Roihclemvenik: there will be changes, but it probably won't make much difference...15:38
darxhi k3b fails to write dvd rw.15:40
Admiral_Chicagovenik: RCs are tested for the "best" RC to chose as the final release afaik15:40
darxwhat ca i do?15:40
darx*can15:40
BluesKajdarx, write from ?15:42
darxBluesKaj: from file.15:42
darx??15:42
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Roihclemdarx: does it give an error?15:43
BluesKajdarx , choose the data dvd option ?15:43
darxit just says that if failed to erase15:44
darxdoes erasing work for you guys?15:45
BluesKajit doesn't erase dvdrws , it just writes over the existing data15:45
darxthen why does it try to erase in the first place?15:45
darxI haven't explicitly asked it to.15:45
darxI just went to the make video dvd option and dragged some vob files and stuff to the video_ts folder and hit burn15:46
darxmy optical media being dvd-rw, k3b tries to preformat and fails to erase15:46
darxIf i'm doing it wrong, what's the proper way to do it?15:47
jak_74hello15:47
darxI tried with growisofs from the command line and that tried to erase and failed.15:47
BluesKajdarx, have you installed kubuntu-retricted-extras ?15:48
BluesKajrestricted15:48
darxBluesKaj: no its not installed15:49
darxshould i install that package?15:49
BluesKajok, you could try by unchecking "automatically erase " in configure k3b/advanced settings15:50
darxbut then, how would i erase if needed later?15:51
BluesKajit helps with codecs that unlawful stateside15:51
darxoh15:51
darxso is k3b unable to erase rw media without the restricted package?15:51
dyn-foHi/Salut :D15:52
BluesKajdarx,you can manually erase from the 'tools' tab15:52
darxcool15:52
darxi'll see how far this goes :)15:53
BluesKajno darx, but it may not burn unrecognized codecs15:53
BluesKajhence the restricted-extras15:53
dyn-foSomeone can help me ? :p15:53
SlimeyPete!ask15:54
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)15:54
dyn-foI have KDE (but i had Gnome before) when i intalled KDE, konkeror and kopete, and other tools of KDE dont work with the connexion15:55
darxBluesKaj: so if i have a video_ts and audio_ts folders of a non encrypted DVD, should i just burn those as data?15:55
dyn-fobut firefox is still workin'15:55
darxwhat i was trying to do was to go to video dvd option and drag and drop the contents of the video_ts folder to the video_ts folder inside of k3b's burn pane.15:56
jak_74I am having a sound issue with my laptop. installed kubuntu Gutsy today on Dell D830 and I have no sound can someone help Please?15:56
Roihclemdyn-fo: have you configured your network settings in the system settings?15:57
BluesKajdarx , you should try "newvideo dvd project " first , if that doesn't work then I've found 'data" burned dvd works on newer standalone players15:57
Roihclemjak_74: do you know if the soundcard has been detected?15:57
darxBluesKaj: No go,, it tries to preformat and then prompts that the erase failed15:58
jak_74it does not appear that way the speaker Icon says "Mixer cannot be found"15:58
jak_74I am sorry I am very new at this15:59
jack__hi, just installed kubuntu 7.10 and am trying to do the adept updater, but i get an error "could not commit changes" ?15:59
the_jonathanhello!15:59
BluesKajdarx, maybe a different dvdrw, just to eliminate faulty media16:00
the_jonathanhope you had a good day :)16:00
the_jonathanand now i have a (stupid? :D) question once again ;)16:00
geniijak_74: Open Konsole, and put the command:  lspci | grep Audio                         and then tell us if the result says some HDA type of audio device please16:01
the_jonathanumlauts are displayed as small boxes in e-mailsubjects in kontact16:03
the_jonathan:/16:03
jak_74Here is the results "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)"16:03
Roihclemjack__: I suggest you try running 'sudo apt-get install' in konsole16:03
SeicherlBoBhow can i modify the entries in remote:/ ?16:03
the_jonathani already tried to change the coding to the once that is used in germany but that only affected the e-mail-content thats now displayed correctly16:04
the_jonathanbut the subjects are still displayd wrong...16:04
geniijak_74: Very well. There are then some additional steps to take regarding these adapters.16:04
genii!intelhda | jak_7416:04
ubotujak_74: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto16:04
jak_74ok I will look at that site thank you!16:05
geniijak_74: If you experience problems with the instructions please refer back here for asistance16:05
RoihclemSeicherlBoB: the desktop files for remote are stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/remoteview/  You can edit them there16:06
SeicherlBoBRoihclem: perfectly fine! thanks a lot16:07
jack__Roihclem: I'm doing kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" hope it works :)16:07
Roihclemjack__: good luck :)16:09
venikany Zune users here?16:11
kmorrisseyhi everyone16:12
Roihclemhey kmorrissey16:12
kmorrisseyI just installed compiz on kubuntu 7.10 it was working fine but now, none of the effects are working its like the 3d is switched off anyone no how I can enable 3d graphics16:13
kmorrisseyi lost the title bar in all the the windows just before this happened16:14
nosrednaekimkmorrissey: what graphics card do you have16:14
kmorrisseynvidia16:14
kmorrisseyi am already using the propiertory drivers16:15
kmorrisseyin other distros I no there is a control panel to enable 3d graphics, but I cant seem to find simular in kubuntu16:15
Roihclemkmorrissey: have you restarted X or kubuntu since compiz crashed?16:16
kmorrisseyyes, no luck16:16
Roihclemare you using gutsy?16:16
nosrednaekimwhat does "glxinfo | grep -i Direct" say?16:16
kmorrisseyit didnt exactly crash it just switch off!!!16:16
tzdmy mounted fs doesn't work as they should. The mount dirs are always taken for some reason? Need help please!16:16
kmorrissey7.1016:16
kmorrisseydirect rendering = yes16:17
icewatermanwhen i try to scan something with my scanner i run into the following problem: 1) i can scan as long as i like if i do it page after page without too much time in between. 2) if i wait for 5 minutes the scanning app wont respond when i try to scan again. when i restart the app i can scan again16:19
icewatermanisnt the scanners fault because works on windows xp just fine.16:19
nosrednaekimkmorrissey: then go to #compiz-fusion16:19
icewatermanbut i hate to start the application from time to time again.16:19
Roihclemtzd: so you're mounting a partition, and after a while, it becomes unmounted and you cannot access your files?16:20
Roihclemicewaterman: are you using kooka?16:21
icewatermanRoihclem: sometimes, but happens also with xsane16:22
icewatermanRoihclem: or gimp using xsane16:22
icewatermanRoihclem: i am using an usb scanner so i suspect its something usb-related though i experience this problem on several boards with entirely different chipsets16:23
tzdRoihclem: no, i can't mount a drive that should be mounted automatically according to my fstab. It's suppose to mount to /media/sdc1 but it wont mount automatically anymore. Instead it assigns itself a new name. It used to be /dev/sdc1 but now it's all of a sudden /dev/sdd116:23
icewatermanRoihclem: i even had the same problem on debian16:23
Roihclemicewaterman: sounds more like its a problem with the driver kubuntu is using for the scanner.  I have no idea what so all about that though, so sorry I can't help :(16:24
Roihclemtzd: is it a removable drive?  (a USB drive)16:25
tzdRoihclem: yes. I also have the same issue with an ipod shuffle16:25
Roihclemtzd: is the entry in fstab using the drive's uuid, or just /dev/foo?16:26
tzdRoihclem: /dev/...16:27
tzdRoihclem: i have a link to my fstab in pastebin if that helps?16:28
Roihclemtzd: You can try mounting by uuid rather than /dev/.  I've had the same thing using usb drives16:28
Roihclemtzd: might do... link away16:28
tzdRoihclem: http://pastebin.com/d5a7650f916:28
tzdRoihclem: the thing is that it worked before16:28
Roihclemtzd: I had trouble because I was mounting different drives in different orders (with card readers and things).  I'm not sure how kubuntu is meant to mount them, so I don't know if its not working or just normal behaviour16:31
geniiRoihclem: When you have many external storage devices, best to use UUID for mounting, then the system cannot confuse them, as with /dev names16:31
tzdgenii: i see. So by entering the devices UUID in my fstab then i won't have messed up mount points?16:32
Roihclemgenii: yeah, I figured that might be the case.  It hasn't really been a problem for me though.16:32
geniitzd: It won't think /dev/sdd which is a certain device one day depending on order you plugged in your devices is /dev/sde the next day for instance. The UUID doesn't alter, as the /dev names do16:34
geniitzd: To find the UUIDs on your system, usually the command: blkid         will tell you them16:34
tzdgenii: i see. Then that's my issue :) Thanks for your help and thanks to Roihclem as well for helping :)16:35
Roihclemtzd: no worries :)16:35
tzdgenii: is the cmd really: blkid ? nothing happens when i try that16:35
hydrogengenii: or you could just use halrules to make the mountpoints static..16:36
smlstevegreetings16:36
mkultrashello !16:36
Roihclemgood morning!16:37
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mkultrasso kubuntu 8 is out now its no longer beta ?16:37
bleho.O16:37
smlstevecan we recieve helpful tips about using kubuntu here16:37
mkultrasyeah i think we can16:37
mkultrasi have before her16:37
mkultrase16:37
smlsteveok great16:38
Roihclemmkultras: Kubuntu 8.04 hasn't been officially released yet.16:38
smlstevei am new to the OS but i like what i see so far16:38
smlstevevery user friendly16:38
mkultrasi just put gnome on my kubuntu i couldnt get kde working for me just yet i'm not used to it16:38
mkultrasah i see16:39
geniitzd: If blkid does not give you UUID of your disks, try instead: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid16:39
mkultrasits just a release candidate rc so that means its testing still i gues16:39
geniihydrogen: I'm not overly familiar with halrules (at least not yet:) )16:39
tzdgenii: that worked, although now i have all UUIDs but i don't know which one is which :/16:40
smlstevei had a problem with kubuntu 7.10 right out of the box with adept locking up after half of the updates installed and killing the grub menu16:40
mkultrastzd: you can look in /etc/fstab to see which uuid goes to which mount point i think16:40
smlstevefound resolution in BUGs.kde.org16:41
tzdmkultras: it only covers 2 out of 8 UUIDs im afraid16:41
mkultrasoh i see16:41
geniitzd: You can remove the drive, do ls /dev/disk/by-uuid, reinsert it, issue again the command and then you will know which it is16:41
mkultrastry blkid.tab instead then16:41
noaXessi backup some files with rsync to a synology NAS..16:41
genii(the one which does not appear when drive is not in)16:41
tzdgenii: simple as it gets, nice one! Sorry for not thinking that one out ;P16:41
noaXessrsync will preserve the user/group perms.. but the synology NAS doesn't support this..16:42
noaXessi can't found the option from rsync to disable preserving group and user perms..16:42
noaXessany idea?16:42
ds187tzd: just do an "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid" then it should show you the disk-names16:42
flipstartzd: btw you have to run blkid as root..then it will nicely list the drives16:42
smlsteveany good programs for sync ing my wm device with kubuntu16:42
smlsteveguess not16:43
geniitzd: You can alternately do: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid16:43
ds187genii: that's what i said :-)16:43
tzdthanks ds187 and flipstar... worked like a charm now :D16:43
mkultrassmlsteve: whats a wm windows media ?16:43
geniids187: Ah, didn't see it :)16:44
ds187:-)16:44
JackWinteris it a bad idea to mount /home on a separate fs in order to share it between kubuntu, ubuntustudio and possibly 64bit ubuntu?16:44
kmorrisseyhi again!!!16:52
kmorrisseyok the only way I can get compiz to run is to use the command $compiz --replace16:52
kmorrisseyanyone no how I can make compiz work on startup16:53
tzdgenii: almost done with my fstab but i have a question regarding the top 2 "defaulted" mounting points in there. One looks like this: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0   Is that really correct?16:53
geniitzd: Yes16:53
tzdgenii: ok cool. The other one that looks a bit strange is: UUID=8be5e179-d8e3-450c-b750-6573e4162930  ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 116:54
ubuntuscuse me ?16:54
ubuntu-?16:54
SlimeyPetehi16:54
ubuntui'm french16:54
tzdgenii: that other one is right underneath. It doesn't seem to have a mount point specified?16:54
ds187!fr | ubuntu16:54
ubotuubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:54
SlimeyPeteubuntu: you're welcome to speak english in here, or else:16:54
SlimeyPete^^ that ;)16:55
geniitzd: It's (/proc) a dynamic directory which has info that is always changing16:55
geniitzd: No mountpoint doesn't look right. Probably it's /16:55
ubuntuthank tou16:55
ubuntuyou ><16:55
geniiThe 0 1 at end indicate the root fs (/)16:55
kmorrisseyalso when I acivate compiz i get 32 desktops that I cant cut back to 416:55
geniikmorrissey: Change the virtual number of desktops in the ccsm16:56
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tzdgenii: should i set it to "/" ? I don't have any other mounts in my fstab that has root specified so you must be right?16:56
kmorrisseygenii I tried that but its already on 116:57
geniitzd: Don't yet make any change. Pastebin the /etc/fstab for a look first please16:57
tzdgenii: ok16:57
tzdgenii: http://pastebin.com/d6251166b16:57
geniikmorrissey: Right now I don't have Compiz on to go check exact place to change it. They will know exactly where it is in the compiz channel tho. I think it's #compiz or possibly #compiz-fusion16:58
geniitzd: Reading16:59
kmorrisseyok thanks16:59
geniitzd: I would definitely say thats your /  although why no mountpoint seems to work I don't know. It would not hurt to specify it17:01
tzdgenii: I've modified my fstab now with uuid so it should work now i think :) Before i had /dev/...17:01
tzdgenii: thanks once again! :)17:02
BluesKajanyone trying to install apps in Canada using the *.ca repos is in for a long wait ..commenting out any *.ca debs is recommended ..then add the us counterpart universe and multiverse repos if you can http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.debian/browse_thread/thread/6db73bec270939e817:03
PiciBluesKaj: What does that link have to do with what you just said?17:04
BluesKajPici, you can copy and paste the required debs from the page into your sources.list if you want ...the canadian repositories are down17:07
BluesKajBBL, errands17:10
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grigrishi to all17:11
ubuntuhi17:20
ubuntuall17:20
geniiBluesKaj: When the .ca repo goes down, i use instead debian.yorku.ca17:20
ubuntuwho was french ?17:21
ds187!fr | ubuntu17:21
ubotuubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:21
ds187:-)17:21
ubuntuthank17:21
ubuntum17:21
tzdgenii: changing all the fs to UUID in fstab solved all my issues, including the one with my ipod. Excellent help! Thanks a bunch :)17:22
geniitzd: Glad to help :)17:22
tzdgenii: it's good there are ppl like you, otherwise I'd be sitting here the whole next week trying to figure out what might be wrong.... Now I'm able to go out and enjoy the sun out here :)17:23
* genii sits in his dungeon office-closet and wonders what sunlight looks like17:23
genii;)17:24
llutzgenii: but you still remember, that there is a sun outside.. respect17:24
geniillutz: True, true17:24
rajiv_nairhello17:26
rajiv_nairi just installed KDE 4.0.3 on my GNOME+KDE gutsy install. Now when i login to KDE 4 kiba dock,avant window navigator and screenlets run automatically on startup and my kicker is missing17:27
rajiv_nairany ideas?17:27
geniirajiv_nair: They may be of more help in the channel #kubuntu-kde417:30
rajiv_nairalrightey17:31
rajiv_nairthanks17:31
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reesehi! does anybody know how to solve this in kaffeine? anytime I load subtitles, it gets me a "URL not found path_video#subtitle:path_subtitle". It worked last week, but now I'm unable to load subtitles. didn't get help in #kaffeine17:43
BluesKajgenii , does the debian yorku repos work ok with gutsy apps ?17:44
geniiBluesKaj: Yup, and Hardy17:45
BluesKajgenii, I have to ask17:45
BluesKajok thx17:45
geniinp17:45
Uwo417:47
jussio1Uwo: ?17:48
BluesKajgenii , testing main non-free contrib and sid main non-free contrib ?17:48
geniiNo, York University17:48
geniinvm :)17:48
mifaunahola17:48
BluesKajdeb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ sid main non-free contrib17:48
mifaunacomo estan17:48
Pici!es | mifauna17:49
ubotumifauna: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.17:49
Uwohi all. i renamed my wifi router and changed the password... i can now no longer connect to it by changing sys settings (problem with IP although dhcp) or through wireless assistant (still "connecting to..." old name + fails)... i can however connect through iwconfig + dhclient..... my Q: are there still some old settings in a file anywhere, how could i change them manually (through kate)?17:50
Uwoi now have to do the iwconfig + dhclient every time i start the computer... it no longer connects automatically17:50
BluesKajUwo, you might check init.d and look for the router.conf file and edit the name there17:55
Uwoblueskaj:tnx. where exactly is the init.d file?17:58
eddieftwUwo: /etc/init.d17:58
eddieftwcd /etc17:58
KetrelOn Gutsy, does anyone use guidance-power-manager AND have the python-sexy package installed AND NOT have guidance lockup when they bring up the main window?18:00
geniiBluesKaj: Dunno about sid, but they have several dists there, and all the *buntu ones. You could browse it by the url maybe18:01
BluesKajUwo,you could edit by using the  run command as well , alt+F2, ' kdesudo konqueror /etc/init.d ' . That gives permission to edit the file save it.18:01
BluesKajok genii , thx much18:02
UwoBluesKaj: only problem is that init.d is a dir, i am still looking for a file which would include the wireless settings18:02
geniiBluesKaj: I sometimes look there in http://debian.yorku.ca/ubuntu           for specific packages in main or so18:04
kaksnsdjhej. how to install kde4 on kubuntu 8.04 RC?18:05
unix_infideljoin #virtualo18:08
unix_infidelwhoops.18:08
sorush20how do I sumcheck a cd18:09
kaksnsdjhej. how to install kde4 on kubuntu 8.04 RC?18:10
jacalopeanyone have access to a printable kde shortcut cheat sheet18:10
mirashhelp please18:10
jacalopeand secondly does anyone know a default shortcut in kde (kubuntu) where you can instantly open up a new email for you to write?18:11
mirashcan i order kubuntu6.06LTS through shipit?18:11
mirashanyone?18:11
geniimirash: Yes you can18:11
mirashit is the only compatible version for my pc18:11
mirashhow???18:11
mirashon the shipit page, only kubuntu8.04LTS is there18:12
mirashanyone help me18:12
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geniimirash: It mst have been changed recently. Previously it was 6.06 and 7.10 available18:14
BluesKajhmm, genii, got url for the browsing the york repos ?18:14
geniiBluesKaj: http://debian.yorku.ca/ubuntu     is what i start at for ubuntu18:15
rbrunhuberI'm trying to install ubuntu and have a ata config disk in partitioner. Whats this?18:16
zorglu_q. how come security.ubuntu.com is not mirrored like others ?18:28
stdinit is18:28
kaminixWhy won't KDE show MS Gothic on a page which specifies it?18:28
geniiIt's mirred in the way like you see universe main      and so on18:28
stdinin the <release>-security repository18:29
kaminixMight sound like a small problem, but when reading Japanese it is not since a Chinese fonts will show Chinese varities of the characters instead of Japanese ones.18:29
zorglu_stdin: ah ok. maybe it is me being unlucky. all my ubuntu install for on fr.* for 'normal'18:29
mueslikaminix: it probably doesn't have the font installed18:29
zorglu_stdin: and security.ubuntu.com without any .fr, for security18:29
kaminixmuesli: I have MS Gothic installed, it shows fine in Friedfox18:29
stdinzorglu_: the reason why we don't default to having any mirror for <release>-security is because some mirrors don't update very often, so we make sure you're pointed at the main server18:30
steveireHi I tried backing up a dvd with k3b and it failed with 'Failed to retrieve all CSS keys'. Any other method I can use? I can play the dvd fine...18:30
pod1sup playas18:30
zorglu_stdin: ah ok, this explains it18:30
eddieftw /msg mirash hello?18:31
eddieftwoops18:31
eddieftwis mirash still around?18:31
stdinnot in here anyway, mir<tab> turns up nothing18:31
Picieddieftw: nope18:31
zorglu_q. is there a known issue between a recent kernel and a libc6 bug on ubuntu feisty ? my hosted server crashes frequently and im told this is a software issue18:31
eddieftw:/ i was just about to offer help18:31
djouallahis opera available to kubuntu8.0418:37
djouallahi searched in adept without result ?18:38
stdinfrom the canonical partner repo, yes18:38
stdinshould be in Add/Remove18:38
djouallahi checked already all the ressource list18:39
lantiushello, I've installed Kubuntu 6.06 and I've installed nvidia drivers from repositories. Nevertheless It doesn't work, If I change the load to drive, nv to nvidia, it stops at the beginning with the kde logo. I have a nvidia TNT2 , what should I do?18:39
ScorpKinghiya stdin18:39
stdinhey ScorpKing18:40
ScorpKinglantius: have you tried the binary drivers?18:40
djouallahxine extra plugin, it is here but can't check it ?18:41
stdindjdarkman: make sure you have all the repos enabled, from Adept: Adept->Manage Repositories and check all the boxes18:42
lantiusScorpKing, Binary drivers are in the repositories , aren't they ?18:42
stdinerm, djouallah18:42
ScorpKinglantius: no18:42
ScorpKing!nvidia | lantius18:42
lantiusok18:42
lantius!nvidia18:42
ubotulantius: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:42
lantiusThanks18:43
ScorpKinglantius: the link should be on there. if you have problems come back here. i'll be here for a few hours18:43
djouallahsorry, what is erm !18:43
lantiusAs usual, you are very helpful.18:43
ScorpKing!info erm18:43
ubotuPackage erm does not exist in gutsy18:43
stdindjouallah: the message above was for you, not djdarkman18:43
ScorpKinglantius: np :)18:43
djouallahstdin already done all, aprt from source !18:44
djdarkmanomg, I gotta get another nick :D18:45
ScorpKingdjdarkman: make it djdarkman-hijacked ;)18:46
djouallahi have a new relative ;)18:46
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djouallahok even in opera web site, there is no package for 8.0418:57
_dennisterhey channel...hoping to get some help with network manager...problem present in 2 newly-configured machines18:59
_dennisteron this one i get no error messages in dmesg or syslog, but when I try to get lisa going I get: NetManager::prepare: bind (TCP) failed, errno: 9819:00
_dennisterthat same message is on other machine (differrent symptoms, too), but i want to leave that one for now19:01
* ScorpKing has to reboot quickly.. brb19:02
gomoran2Hello, I'm just ugrading a kubuntu gutsy to hardy. Now all Fonts look ugly (blured and colored), even setting lcd_filter to lcdfilterlegacy does not help (any more). How do I get decent glyphrendering back?19:03
_dennisteranybody got any ideas? I've already tried fiddling with hosts and such on the other machine, does no good...lisa doesn't show up in system settings-->networking, and although zeroconf is enabled there, nothing shows up (I can ping other machines)19:06
_dennisteranyone available to help with networking? i understand it's quiet sometimes, and people do other things19:19
_dennistersomething new I've seen: trying to restart networking and some added info: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth019:20
ArrowHi all19:20
_dennisterhowdy...u have a problem? or can u help with networking?19:21
Arrowanyone get Kubuntu booted on a late model Phenom?19:21
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* Arrow is having 'issues'19:21
RuairidhHey all19:21
_dennisternot me19:21
Ruairidh_dennister: you have a networking problem?19:21
_dennisteri'm having issues, too, but this channel is quieter than usual19:21
_dennisterRuairidh: yes :)19:22
RuairidhWhat's the issue? I'll see if I can help :)19:22
_dennisternew install, can surg easily, no probs, but can't get lisa going19:22
ArrowI 'did' manage to update my Mobo BIOS that's a step19:22
RuairidhBleh no good with the apps mate, sorry :(19:22
_dennisteror actually, it is listening, but that and zeroconf are problematic...lisa doesn't show up in system settings-->networking19:23
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_dennisterszeroconf is enabled there, but  not showing network or other machines i can ping19:23
ArrowI downloaded the KDE4 version of Hardy...it says kernel immage is corrupted...19:23
Arrowthat's desktop 64 bit19:24
Seren__is there a way to know what type of USB I have on my system other that using lspci ?19:24
Arrowthe 32 bit on boots fine19:24
_dennisterif i try to restart networking, terminal gives me: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth019:24
_dennisterRuairidh: is that enough info for u?19:24
RuairidhYeah just thinking about it19:25
RuairidhI'm not great with the applications, more into the guts of internetworking :p19:25
_dennisterSeren__: u can try installing hal-device-manager19:25
Ruairidhbrb19:25
_ZeuZ_Guys, is there any performance drop after installing Qemu or similar?19:25
RuairidhDamn, got guests. Sorry about this19:26
Seren__dennister : I'll have a look at what it does19:26
_dennisterRuairidh: k...going out for a cig19:26
Ruairidh^^19:26
* Arrow will return..(that's a threat)19:26
Arrowlater all19:26
_ZeuZ_Guys, is there any performance drop after installing Qemu or similar?19:29
BluesKaj_ZeuZ_, most virtual OS's slow down somewhat vs the real thing19:33
_ZeuZ_BluesKaj, thing is I don;t want the emulator to slow down my system when it's not in use19:35
_dennisterBluesKaj: hi there :) that supergrub.iso you gave me really helped with tecra8000 and mini.ixo installation :)19:37
BluesKaj_ZeuZ_,is it running in the background as a daemon , ready to launch at a moment's notice , ...you could check in system settings/advanced/system services, to check whether it's booting at start up19:38
BluesKajcool, _dennister , glad it worked19:38
_dennisterthe main problem with the tecra is that w2k is still faster than xubuntu or kubuntu19:38
_dennisterlinux crawls :(19:38
djdarkmanis there a way to get the install date of linux?19:39
djdarkmanI mean I would like to know when I installed my kubuntu19:39
mooperhi, how do I install an rpm on me ubuntu?19:40
djdarkmanmooper: you need to install alien19:40
BluesKaj_dennister, actually w2k is MS's best OS ...this from ppl I used to work with , who still swear by it not at it :)19:40
djdarkmanbut it`s not recommended, to install rpms on ubuntu mooper19:40
djdarkmanmooper: what rpm do you want to install?19:41
ubuntucan anyone temme frm where i get java for kubuntu19:41
_dennisterbut right now I have another networking problem with two machines...and this one i'm working on now has lisa listening on wrong interface...only 0.0.0.0...when i try to restart lisa from terminal i get: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth019:41
geniidjdarkman: If you ls -ld on an originally created dir like var or usr it should reflect the day you installed19:41
mooperA proprietary widget thing for backups19:41
BluesKajubuntu , use adept pkg manager to install java19:41
djdarkmanhmmmm good poitn genii19:41
_dennisteri can ping other machines on the network, but that's it...zeroconf is enabled in system settings-->network, but doesn't show up or do anything19:41
djdarkmanubuntu: search for sun-java19:42
andytuname -a ?19:42
_dennisterahhhh...genii: :-)19:42
mooperdjdarkman: A proprietary widget thing for backups I think itll be okay19:42
geniihi _dennister19:42
djdarkmanmooper: sudo apt-get install alien19:42
mooperdjdarkman: thanks19:43
djdarkmanmooper: and then sudo alien -i rpm_file_name.rpm19:43
djdarkmannp mooper , hope it`ll work19:43
_dennistergenii: can you help me with simple netwworking problem here? BluesKaj is helping ubuntu19:43
BluesKaj_dennister, 127.0.0.1 perhaps?19:44
_dennisterBluesKaj: no, 0.0.0.019:44
genii_dennister: Work is busy but if you can stand the lag I'll be back and forth from the computer19:44
BluesKajtry 127etc19:45
TameLionHi all! Is there any way to get fx2 or fx3 working with the kde file picker? The ui.allow_platform_file_picker set to false still uses the ooollld one19:45
_dennistergenii: no, its ok, i may have to put this machine away for a little while...got other things/machines i have to get done today19:45
ScorpKing_dennister: i didn't follow you whole post . did you replace one of you cards perhaps?19:46
mooperdjdarkman: balls, it cant find java19:46
mooper:) might have to get a bit of centos on the go19:46
ScorpKingmooper: java is in kubuntu-restricted-extras19:47
djdarkmanmooper: do you have java?19:47
_dennisterScorpKing: no, i didn't...i just have lots of machines I've been working on refurbishing here19:48
ScorpKingdjdarkman: oh ok. what cards is enabled in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?19:48
_dennisterthis one has always had the same nic/mac address19:48
ScorpKingugh..19:48
ScorpKing_dennister: that was for you ^19:49
djdarkmanScorpKing: :D19:49
ScorpKinghehe.. ;)19:49
_dennisterScorpKing: thx a lot19:50
ScorpKing_dennister: found the problem?19:51
_dennisternope19:51
ScorpKing_dennister: is eth0 just missing? what does lshw | less say? press q to exit less19:52
_dennisterwhen i go to restart networking thru /etc/init.d...i still get: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth019:53
_dennisteryet i can surf, and obviously i can talk to you guys19:53
ScorpKing_dennister: what interfaces does ifconfig show?19:53
_dennisterScorpKing: hold on a sec19:55
* ScorpKing holds on..19:55
_dennisterScorpKing: ifconfig shows what i expect: eth0 and lo19:56
ScorpKingis eth0 in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or is it something else??19:57
_ZeuZ_!hydra19:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hydra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:57
_ZeuZ_!thc-hydra19:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thc-hydra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:57
_dennisterlshw | less shows a lot of info...the eth0 card i'm expecting, and a f/m i haven't even started configuring/testing yet19:58
trappistI've got some nfs4 exports shared successfull, but I can't make them read-write.  no errors, just permission denied when I try to write, even as root.  any ideas?19:59
ScorpKing_dennister: ok it looks like eth0 is not set up correctly19:59
trappist*successfully19:59
ScorpKingtrappist: root can't write nfs19:59
trappistoh?20:00
ScorpKingtrappist: look at the uid of the owner on the nfs mounts20:00
_dennisterScorpKing: and eth0 is showing up in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules20:00
ScorpKing_dennister: did you doublecheck your interfaces file?20:01
trappistScorpKing: got it working, thanks :)  woulda never figured that out20:01
ScorpKingtrappist: you're welcome. it took me a while to figure out myself when i tried to dd to nfs.20:01
_dennisterScorpKing: yes i did double-check interfaces awhile back and it's open again now20:02
ScorpKing_dennister: can you pastebin the eth0 section?20:02
_dennisteri see nothing wrong, but i'll pastebin the whole thing; it's short20:03
_dennister!pastebin20:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:03
_ZeuZ_!install hydra20:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about install hydra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:04
ScorpKing!msg | _ZeuZ_20:04
psycosehi20:04
ubotu_ZeuZ_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.20:04
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ScorpKingugh.. wrong one sorry20:04
_ZeuZ_?20:05
_ZeuZ_x'D20:05
_dennisterScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64022/20:05
psycoseHow can i know all packages present in a K/Ubuntu CD (alternate or not) or DVD ? thanks20:05
_ZeuZ_Any tutorial for installing THC-Hydra in Ubuntu?20:05
ScorpKing_dennister: #iface eth0 inet dhcp is the problem. uncomment it20:05
ScorpKing_ZeuZ_: not even sure what that is. have you tried searching the forums?20:06
_ZeuZ_I just need it to clear my routers cache, I forgot the password, and I cannot reset it, have no phisical access to it20:07
_ZeuZ_psh, gonna use Backtrack to get rid of that problem...20:07
_dennisterScorpKing: lol...how could i have missed that?...done20:08
ScorpKing_dennister: it happens. :) try it now20:08
genii_ZeuZ_: Geth the source from http://freeworld.thc.org/releases/hydra-5.4-src.tar.gz then use checkinstall (install it if neccesary) to make a deb which you can then install/uninstall from package manaher20:10
_dennisterScorpKing: i did try it, but netstat is still showing the same results: lisa is listening on 0.0.0.020:10
genii*manager20:10
geniiBah, he left20:10
_dennisteralthough i'm ot getting error messages20:11
ScorpKing_dennister: i have no idea how to change the route on the fly. haven't got around looking into that yet.20:11
_dennisterScorpKing: it may be all right, actually...perhaps it's because i haven't had two networking interfaces for so long that i've forgotten about the interfaces file...later today/over next few days I'll be building a dhcp server for pxe installations, so i Needed this refresher i guess20:14
_dennisteralso unusual is that these machines where I've been having difficulty with lisa/networking have the linux f/modems, which I'm not using to dealing with at all20:15
ScorpKing_dennister: edubuntu does all of that for you btw ;)20:15
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_dennisterScorpKing: ahhhhhhh, but these machines I'm refurbishing are for teenagers, and they'll be turned off by anything with "edu" in it :)20:15
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ScorpKing_dennister: well, modems.. i'd rather not go there but www.linmodems.org is a good start20:16
ScorpKing_dennister: you can change all the graphics ;)20:16
_dennisterthe networking I have been doing for myself are usually more advanced...samba, servers...with just single ethernet cards...........yes, i know about linmodems20:17
_dennisterScorpKing: more than I want to do for the kids, I'm afraid...i want them to learn how to customize their pc's to their liking....I'm just ding basics like making sure hardware & multimedia is working20:18
ScorpKing_dennister: also, run aptitude search edubuntu / ltsp and see if the ltsp server shows up. it will make things a lot easier for you20:18
ScorpKingah i see20:18
_dennisteryes, i have been looking at ltsp for a terminal server project I'm doing for a consultant who's coming over tomorrow...he hasn't touched linux in over 10 years, so I need to do a test machine now for ubuntuserver (hardy release candidate)20:19
_dennisteri'm just gonna give them the server, no gui at all, for his client's family20:20
ScorpKing_dennister: i wish you all the best then. *ubuntu has it all so just keep looking ;)20:20
_dennisterparents want something ugly their daughters won't touch :-)20:20
_dennisterScorpKing: yes, and I should get going now...i thing I now know what the problem is on both these machines...ty :)20:21
ScorpKingyou're welcome. good luck and have fun20:21
_dennisterlater folks...i knew it was something simple i was forgetting :)20:21
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mooperI have cups-pdf installed but its not coming up as a printer. Any Ideas?20:26
RiddellKubuntu CDs up for testing!20:33
bin4ryhey together20:34
bin4ryi need to access a link:  crid://foo.bar  with firefox. Firefox cant handle the protocol20:35
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bin4ryany1?20:39
PhilRodbin4ry: if no one here knows, try #firefox20:40
spantherbin4ry:  what do you want? :)20:40
bin4ryokidoke20:40
bin4ryspanther: i want to access a link    crid://foo.bar    firefox cant handle the proto "crid" since it doesnt know it20:40
spantheri see20:41
spanthertried with konversation?20:41
spantheruh sorry lol20:41
spantherkonqueror i mean20:41
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bin4ryuhm...no?20:41
bin4ryhow?20:41
spantherum okay not supported either...20:42
spantheri have no clue20:42
bin4rywell i could register it manualy20:42
bin4ryand due to the assumption that it is a videostream i could link it to xine20:43
TimSWhats the shortcut to get the window settings dialogue up, I fullscreened a program and aren't sure how to un full screen it20:49
emilsedghTimS: i think F1120:49
TimSNope :(20:49
spanther8.04 uses KDE3 ?20:50
emilsedghspanther: two diferrent versions.20:50
emilsedgh!kde420:50
ubotuKDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:50
spantheremilsedgh: i just installed kubuntu 8.04 with wubi and then i started in a really pretty desktop :D20:51
spantherso clean buttons animations and window decorations20:51
emilsedghspanther: yeah, kde4 is really nice.even if its so incomplete ;)20:52
wietsehi guys20:52
wietsei've just accidentically deleted my bar at the bottom of my OS20:52
spantheremilsedgh: well i am not sure that it is kde4 because its not black and ugly like preview pictures of kde4 :P20:52
llutznice for screenshots, nothing to work with (yet)20:52
wietsewhich like shows application running etc, and icons20:52
wietsecan anyone help me get it back?20:52
llutzwietse: alt-f2: kicker20:52
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wietsellutz: i luv yu20:53
emilsedghspanther: hm.open an application and go to Help->About KDE20:53
livingdotsso, konversation works well...20:53
wietse:p20:53
llutzwietse: sry, i'm married20:53
spantheremilsedgh:  it is 3.5.920:53
wietsehmm shame20:53
wietsetoo bad20:53
wietseciao!20:53
spantherbut the design is so awesome lol20:53
emilsedghspanther: well, KDE3 rocks too :D20:54
spantheri've seen some "i hope" really beta pics of KDE4 with an ugly black bar what had big buttons for people who need glasses and with fonts without smoothing so it looked yeah...ugly xD20:54
emilsedghspanther: you have no idea how great is KDE4 (not 4.0)20:55
spantherwell it looks ugly :(20:55
spanthernot so pretty than my 3.5.9 with these round shiny glossy window decorations in blue colour hehe20:56
spantherhow to check the designs name?20:57
emilsedghspanther: because KDE3 was developed and tested for years.but kde4 is just born20:57
emilsedghspanther: if you really want to know what do i mean, go to kde.org's screenshots gallerry and compare 3.0 with 3.520:57
sparklingshrewyeah, I'll be waiting until it's matured a bit :(20:57
spanthermy KDe doesnt look standard i looks well more shiny20:57
spantherkde.org doesnt have this design i have here20:58
spantherthey have the original standard KDE3 design20:58
emilsedghspanther: yeah.kde3's default look is ugly20:58
spantherhow to check theme20:59
emilsedghspanther: check theme of what?20:59
spantherthemes installed where i can switch them and look which one is activated now :)20:59
emilsedghspanther: System Settings->Appearance21:00
spantherits marked as "Current Scheme" lol21:01
spantherso i still cant see which one it is by name :/21:01
spantherah window decoration is Crystal21:02
spanther1.0.5 built march 11 200821:02
spantherits so pretty *-*21:03
spantherwidget style is QtCurve21:04
nosrednaekimqtCurve rocks...21:04
nosrednaekimespecially since there is a kde4 style :)21:05
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spantherwell i host it :)21:05
emilsedghnosrednaekim: QtCurve when you have Oxygen?! :P21:06
nosrednaekimemilsedgh: yeah oxygen is way better, but then kde3 apps look out of place and ugly21:06
spantherhttp://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4/snapshot2uu2.png21:07
spantherso small + clean + glossy :D love this one21:07
emilsedghnosrednaekim: right.i used to love my kde3 look, but now that i have kopete from kde3 and others from kde4, i just dont like it anymore.oxygen is too beautiful21:08
* nosrednaekim prays for a kde3 oxygen theme21:09
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spantheri love themes with shiny and slim window decorations and thin scroll bars :)21:09
spantherincluding small but high res icons21:09
spantherbrb reboot21:10
Dragonathhmm so how do I find out which region my dvd player is set to?21:11
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spantherhelp o.o21:13
wietseis there a command that would list all the .jpg's on my machine and their locations?21:17
nosrednaekimwietse: yeah.... do "man find" i'm not sure what the exact syntax will be21:18
spantherhttp://pastebin.com/m15866b81  <-- whats this somebody knows about ?21:20
trappistwietse: sudo find / -iname '*.jpg'21:20
JackWinteris there anything i should watch out with when sharing /home/user between kubuntu/ubuntustudio and maybe 64bit us ?21:20
sourcemaker_I have tested the "Now listening" plugin for kopete... but it does not work... are there known problems?21:20
nosrednaekimsourcemaker_: you need to be running amarok21:21
nosrednaekimJackWinter: nope21:21
sourcemaker_nosrednaekim: yes... I have and the messages is shown in kopete... but my friends do not see the messages of my current playing tracks21:21
wietsethanks trappist21:21
nosrednaekimsourcemaker_: so you see the results of /media, but your freinds don't?21:22
JackWinternosrednaekim: so just the occasional backup of dot files etc..?21:22
coggzare we allowed to ask for help with... hack... problems?21:22
ScorpKing!warez21:22
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o21:22
sourcemaker_nosrednaekim: yes.. that's the problem21:22
nosrednaekimJackWinter: that'd be smart, yes21:22
sourcemaker_nosrednaekim: there are all using the icq client... not kopete21:23
nosrednaekimsourcemaker_: I see.... try typing in /media here...21:23
ScorpKingcoggz: does that awnser you question? ;)21:23
coggzScorpKing: not pirate software,21:23
spantherScorpKing:  hack not crack :P21:23
coggzScorpKing: about folder access21:23
ScorpKingcoggz: ask away then :P21:24
coggzanyone suggest a good channel21:24
spantherhttp://pastebin.com/m15866b81 <-- maybe somebody??21:24
ScorpKingspanther: is gconftool installed?21:25
spantherScorpKing:  i dont know21:25
spantherits a fresh system made with wubi21:26
ScorpKingspanther: aptitude search gconftool and look for i on the beginning of the line of gconftool-221:26
spantherbut i cant install gconftool21:26
spantheraah gconf2 :) thank you scorp21:27
nosrednaekimthis would be #1 a ubuntu question and #2, a hardy question which means #ubuntu+121:27
ScorpKingyou're welcome spanther :)21:27
spanthernosrednaekim: you're wrong its kubuntu with kubuntu splash and KDE :P21:27
spantherScorpKing:  ^^21:27
nosrednaekimspanther: then why do you need gconf? thats GNOME21:28
spanthernosrednaekim: i dont know what is what i am not a professional okay ????21:28
spantheri dont know why21:29
_ZeuZ_!rt7321:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:32
spantherwill they ship kubuntu 8.04 final release with torrent too? because http would be overloaded at the first few days hehe21:34
RuairidhI'd imagine so21:35
RuairidhIt'd be logical at least21:35
spantheryep and faster :)21:35
RuairidhWhich equates to pure win :D21:35
spantheror killing the internet xD21:36
spantherstressed network hehe :)21:36
RuairidhStressed networks are never fun21:36
spantherwell internet for real is just a big network :)21:37
RuairidhWell it's actually an amalgamation of small networks21:37
RuairidhThat's why we say internetwork ;)21:37
spantherinternational network *g*   internet21:37
RuairidhIt's not an international network as such, it's like the world's biggest cluster :P21:38
spanthernone of these SL clients will run there's a file missing well okay any other good game with 3D then? :/21:38
RuairidhOpenArena? RTCW:ET?21:38
spanthersometing what can use 8800gt maybe? :)21:39
RuairidhPong? :p21:39
spantheris there a quake wars demo?21:39
spantherlol @ pong xD21:39
RuairidhThat I don't know, not a big gamer21:39
RuairidhWee brother has it on windows but I doubt that counts21:39
spantheri wanted to leave windows as soon i can so i switched to nvidia today my card arrived and yeah i think very soon i'll reformat my harddrive for 8.04 :D21:40
spantherwhen its final *g*21:40
RuairidhHeh21:41
RuairidhI used to run a VM21:41
RuairidhAnd then decided a smaller hdd for linux would be cool21:41
RuairidhAnd finally moved over here for my tech work. I only use windows for Counter Strike now21:41
spantherwine still doesnt support it? xD21:41
RuairidhYeah it does but the frame rate isn't fantastic21:41
RuairidhSo I go native21:42
spantheri dont know when but once my ATI card really worked at linux :D then i used wine and this worked too lol but after a wine update it didnt work anymore..21:42
RuairidhWeird21:42
RuairidhI feel kinda guilty, I'm on gnome atm but am in #kubuntu21:42
spantherbut i really wanna get rid of these annoying phone calls for activation and "lets see what's your hardware" spy shit x.x21:43
spantherlinux is stable these days so yeah21:43
christophoroshow can i install flash on kubuntu ?21:43
Ruairidhsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree21:43
spantherchristophoros: flash-plugin-nonfree :)21:43
RuairidhAh missed a hyphon :p21:43
spantherxD21:43
Ruairidhsudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree21:43
karthikpchristophoros: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras takes care of this and more. Definitely recommend that as a first thing to do with a fresh install.21:43
Odd-rationaleRuairidh: no you got it right21:43
Odd-rationaleflashplugin-nonfree21:44
RuairidhOh cool, go me :D21:44
spantherthought flash and plugin would be two different words sorry then :)21:44
christophoroskarthikp any other tips to do on fresh intall ?:p21:44
* Ruairidh hits spanther with a fish21:44
Ruairidh:D21:44
spantherlool21:44
spantherfor ubuntu is it ubuntu-restricted-extras then ?21:45
karthikpI used to have a long list of things to do, mostly to get different formats to play etc. But kubuntu-restricted-extras is one awesome package.21:45
RuairidhMay well be yeah21:45
Odd-rationalespanther: yes21:45
RuairidhAnyone fancy putting forward some music recommendations?21:45
karthikpAlso, you need to do one more thing to get DVDs to play...21:45
christophorosBuilding dependency tree21:45
christophorosReading state information... Done21:45
christophorosE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras21:45
christophoroschristophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$21:45
christophorosany ideas?.21:45
spanther202mb downloading oh my.. lol :D21:45
Ruairidhlibdvdcss?21:45
KetrelOn Gutsy, does anyone use guidance-power-manager AND have the python-sexy package installed AND NOT have guidance lockup when they bring up the main window?21:45
Odd-rationalekarthikp: sudo /usr/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh21:45
karthikpI believe it runs along the lines of sudo /usr/lib/doc/libdvdread3/install.sh or something.21:45
karthikpOdd-rationale: bingo!21:46
Odd-rationalekarthikp: let me double check...21:46
spantherhttp://planetquakewars.net/Download/Overview?fileId=3822  <-- for all who wanna play Quakewars demo at linux :)21:46
Odd-rationalesudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh21:46
Odd-rationalepretty close...21:47
karthikpchristophoros: KDE3 or KDE4?21:47
RuairidhThanks spanther21:47
spantherRuairidh:  np just found a nice server with good speed and without registration hassle :)21:47
Odd-rationalealso, assuming you installed libdvdread3 which kubuntu-restricted-extras usually puuls in...21:47
spantheri love to share hehe21:47
christophorosKDE321:47
christophorosKDE3.5.8 actualy ;p21:48
karthikpOdd-rationale: That was the first step...21:48
RuairidhSharing is awersome21:48
spantherso am i able to play HD-DVD or Blu-Ray with 8.04 ?21:48
RuairidhThis is why the Open Source community rocks :D21:48
spantherRuairidh: yup21:48
RuairidhAll we need now is hot chicks willing to share ;)21:48
spanther<-- *ugly chick* lol21:48
Ruairidhhaha21:49
* karthikp rolls eyes.21:49
christophoroskathrikp ?21:49
* Ketrel sobs silently :(21:49
RuairidhOk so for some interesting discussion21:50
karthikpchristophoros: yeah?21:50
RuairidhWhy is KDE > Gnome?21:50
christophorosits KDE321:50
spantherKetrel: whats up? :(21:50
RuairidhI know it's a bit of a volatile question but I feel kinda agnostic21:50
acidBURNis kubuntu 8.04 going to be LTS or is it just Ubuntu ?21:50
nosrednaekim!worksforme21:50
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/21:50
karthikpI was just asking because you could also go ahead and pull in some extragear stuff for plasma if you were using KDE4...21:50
Odd-rationaleacidBURN: no kubuntu will not be lts21:50
nosrednaekimacidBURN: ust Ubuntu21:50
Ketrelspanther, certain python packages cause guidance to lock up when I try to view the main part21:51
christophoroswhy the command isnt working ?21:51
nosrednaekimah.. wrong factoid21:51
acidBURNnutz21:51
christophorosBuilding dependency tree21:51
christophorosReading state information... Done21:51
christophorosE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras21:51
christophoroschristophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$21:51
RuairidhReckon I should go KDE?21:51
nosrednaekimRuairidh: mostly because its far more configurable21:51
RuairidhTrue21:51
spantherKetrel: aww ._.21:51
karthikpchristophoros: You might need to enable the universe repositories.21:51
Odd-rationalechristophoros: try this "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras"21:51
spanther!offtopic21:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:51
RuairidhI just don't like the windows feeling of it21:51
RuairidhIt's almost *too* friendly21:51
acidBURNOdd-rationale: any reason why? , since they are based on the same linux21:52
RuairidhBleh since I like you lot I'll keep on KDE21:52
karthikpI'd scoot over to /etc/apt/ and edit sources.list (sudo, please).21:52
Ruairidh1 sec, I'll leave GNOME21:52
Odd-rationaleacidBURN: because of kde421:52
acidBURNusing kde321:52
Odd-rationaleacidBURN: kde3 will probably not be maintianed for another 2 years...21:52
acidBURNok21:52
karthikpThen, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" (for good measure).21:52
spantherwell x/k/ubuntu really needs a virus scanner with realtime background scanning and shield process sure there arent that much viruses out yet but it would give me a much better feeling when theres a automatically updating helper in background :)21:53
Odd-rationale3.5.9 is the last frontier of kde 3 series21:53
karthikpThen, try installing kubuntu-restricted extras again.21:53
karthikpThe graphical way involves clicking with mice...21:53
acidBURNdam, we are caught in between...the movement21:53
RuairidhAnd I'm on KDE :D21:54
RuairidhBleh just feels way too much like windows21:55
illusionhello folks21:55
Odd-rationaleillusion: hi21:55
Ruairidhhi21:55
nosrednaekimRuairidh: make it feel different.. tis not hard :)21:55
nosrednaekimhello illusion21:55
illusionIm trying to install linuxmce on kubunti live21:55
spantherhey i love its near to windows :P21:55
RuairidhMind recommending some ways? I'm a wee bit of a noob to KDE21:55
illusionbut ill get an mysql error when installing it21:56
illusiondoes anybody know how I can fix it?21:56
Ruairidhspanther: I've been suckled upon hardcore IOS CLI that will eat you if it isn't pleased21:56
Odd-rationaleRuairidh: do "ctrl+alt+f1" and it will really feel like Linux...21:56
RuairidhShoves me into console only?21:56
spantheri hate shell <.< terminal is okay for some things but shell well...21:57
RuairidhHehe21:57
RuairidhWell if you SSH in to do some server admin it's pretty sexy21:57
RuairidhOtherwise a GUI is welcome21:57
nosrednaekimRuairidh: hard core kde control center can be run using "kcontrol" you can do anything in there, just mess around :)21:58
Ruairidhooooh21:58
* Ruairidh plays21:58
Ruairidh:D21:58
spantheri live in 2008 so GUI is needed :P21:58
spantherDOS is over21:58
illusionlol21:58
RuairidhHaha21:58
RuairidhUnless you work in internetworking21:58
Odd-rationaleRuairidh: and if you mess things up and can't put it back, then just remove your ~/.kde folder21:58
RuairidhThen if you can do it all via CLI then you get paid more21:59
RuairidhOdd-rationale: duly noted21:59
illusiondoes anybody knows a answer to my question?21:59
bat_ciao come va??21:59
mooperhullo, how do I login as another user from konsole?21:59
Odd-rationalemooper: su username21:59
nosrednaekimillusion: whats the exact error?22:00
nosrednaekim!pastebin22:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:00
bat_qualcuno parla italiano22:00
Odd-rationale!it | bat_22:00
ubotubat_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:00
nosrednaekimmooper: su username22:01
bat_ok22:01
DevourerIs there an advantage to using Konqueror over FireFox?22:01
Odd-rationaleDevourer: you like it better?22:01
DevourerOdd-rationale, is there much of a difference?22:01
Odd-rationaleDevourer: yes there is..22:01
DevourerOdd-rationale, such as what? :D22:01
happytigerHow can at boot time choose between to diffrent xorg.conf files?? aka from grub menu kindda22:01
happytigerto = two22:02
Odd-rationaleDevourer: konq uses khtml, ff uses gecko (which supports more sites)_22:02
bat_Scusate ma sono nuova come facci in questo prog ad andare su ubuntu .it22:03
Odd-rationalea webkit  kpart is being developed, so soon konqueror will be just as good as ff22:03
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bat_ Scusate ma sono nuova come facci in questo prog ad andare su ubuntu .it22:04
HydrogenThats an incorrect thing to say Odd-rationale..22:04
Odd-rationaleHydrogen: well i'm excited about it... :)22:04
RuairidhHehe this is awesome22:04
RuairidhI love linux22:05
Ruairidhbat_: canta per me il inno di morte per favore22:05
bat_ Scusate ma sono nuova come facci in questo prog ad andare su ubuntu .it22:05
Ruairidh:s22:05
RuairidhBleh my italian needs improving22:05
RuairidhSomething about your sound22:05
bat_ Scusate ma sono nuova come facci in questo prog ad andare su ubuntu .it22:06
Ruairidhno comprende22:06
Ruairidhingles per favore22:06
Ruairidh:(22:06
Odd-rationaleRuairidh: maybe he doesn't know how to /join ubuntu.it ?22:06
RuairidhMi dispiace sinor, no parlo bene l'italiano22:06
bat_ok thanks22:07
RuairidhProva # ubuntu.it22:07
nosrednaekimRuairidh: see what I meant when I said KDE was more configurable? :)22:07
RuairidhIndeed :D22:07
RuairidhHaving fun toying with it22:07
RuairidhAmarok and Akregator are pretty awesome as well22:08
illusion[23:00] <nosrednaekim> illusion: whats the exact error?22:08
illusionnosrednaekim:  its just like mysql cant be installed, installation canceled22:08
nosrednaekimillusion: could you please pastebin the exact error?22:09
illusionhmmz, ill try since it's a gui/installer issue22:09
illusioni need a screenshot for ya22:10
illusionlooks like it's runnin atm, after useing the orrignal langage pack22:10
Odd-rationaleillusion: http://imagebin.ca22:11
illusionwhen using the dutch language it fais22:11
RuairidhRacist app?22:11
Ruairidh:p22:11
illusionlol22:11
illusionhmmz22:11
Ruairidhbrb22:11
illusionsame error22:11
nosrednaekimillusion: run "sudo apt-get install packagename"22:11
nosrednaekimillusion: which will give you a better error22:11
illusioni will show the screenshot22:12
illusionhttp://imagebin.ca/view/6r8TBP.html22:13
bat_Scusato sono nuova come faccio ad andare su Ubuntu.it??22:14
SlimeyPete!italian22:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:14
illusioni will try to install mysql server22:14
illusioncrap i need to edit the sources.list22:15
spantherdoes somebody know where to get 1680x1050 resolution wallpaper with term linux ?  (like tux or something else cute wallpaper :)  )22:15
Odd-rationalebat_: type "/join #ubuntu.it"22:15
Ruairidhspanther: try deviantart?22:15
illusionmysql isnt available in the current sources.list22:16
spantherRuairidh: i dont know devianart :)22:16
illusionnosrednaekim: Odd-rationale ----> http://imagebin.ca/view/6r8TBP.html22:16
Odd-rationaleillusion: I never tried installing mce. sorry..22:17
nosrednaekimoh great.,... a independant installer22:17
nosrednaekimillusion: try #linux mce22:18
nosrednaekim*linuxmce22:18
illusionnosrednaekim: im trying to install linuxmce through kubuntu live22:19
nosrednaekimillusion: wait... you are on the LiveCD?22:19
illusionnosrednaekim: yes22:19
illusioninstalled it to a hdd22:20
illusionthen the upgrade to linuxmce22:20
nosrednaekimwell, once you install, did you reboot into the loaded system?22:20
illusionyes22:21
nosrednaekimah ok.... then its not kubuntu live ;)22:21
nosrednaekimunless you booted the LiveCD again22:21
illusionok fair enough :) sorry about that22:22
nosrednaekimillusion: still, ask in #linuxmce, since it is their installer22:23
illusionok22:23
illusionthnx anyway22:24
spantherhow to start a .run file?22:25
Odd-rationalespanther: from where?22:25
illusionlinux batch?22:25
spantherterminal22:25
illusionneeds to be sh extension22:25
spantherwanna install quake wars demo its a .run file22:25
illusionnvm22:25
nosrednaekimspanther: ./filename.run22:25
spanthernosrednaekim: thank you that was it :D22:26
Odd-rationalespanther: make sure it is executalbe first: chmod +x file.run22:26
Odd-rationalespanther: then, in the directory, "./file.run"22:26
spantheryeah i ever rightclick these first and mark the checkbox "allow run" or similiar :)22:26
spantherproperties -> permissions -> is executable :)22:26
spantherit said mkdir failed22:29
spantherwell okay..22:29
spanthernice :D had to put in the whole hehe22:30
Odd-rationalespanther: do you have to run it as root?22:31
spantheri dont know22:31
spantheri just put in the whole dir  /home/sven/Spiele/QuakeWars then it worked :)22:31
spanthernoes i cant find the command to run it lol22:32
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RuairidhHehe bass and linux make an awesome combination22:39
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* Ruairidh sighs22:44
elliotthi, can anyone help me install hardy rc1 on my mac mini? It says it installs correctly, but when I go to restart it doesn't boot. when I re-enter the install CD and select "boot from first hard disk", i get a blinking cursor and the computer hangs22:44
_ZeuZ_elliott: wrong arch22:45
_ZeuZ_download i38622:45
elliottthe live cd boots though, that's what i'm using right now22:46
Ruairidh:s22:46
elliotti've done that before and not even the live cd worked22:46
nonewmsgsi have the serious grub issues22:49
elliottis there a way to see what version it is?22:49
elliott_ZeuZ_: Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux22:55
elliottwhat would that say if it was 64 vs. 86?22:56
DevourerCan I use the shebang to open up something like konsole when I click on the text file?22:56
nosrednaekimDevourer: shebang.... whats that?22:57
DevourerThe #! thingy at the beginning of a script.22:58
DevourerLike, #!/usr/bin/perl22:58
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nosrednaekimDevourer: ah... no, but you can with "open with.." konsole and save as default and if it has #!perl as the bash header everything will work23:02
elliottCan anyone help me determine whether i'm running x86 or x64 version right now? apparently that's the cause of my problems but i don't want to re-download, re-burn, and re-install only to find out that wasn't it23:03
nosrednaekimuname -a23:04
elliottLinux ubuntu 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux23:04
michaelso.. i am having problems with adept23:05
elliottif only i knew how to read the output23:05
nosrednaekimthats not X86_6423:06
elliottok23:06
elliottso,23:06
nosrednaekimthats x86 (686)23:06
elliottcan anyone help me install hardy rc1 on my mac mini? It says it installs correctly, but when I go to restart it doesn't boot. when I re-enter the install CD and select "boot from first hard disk", i get a blinking cursor and the computer hangs23:06
elliottand I downloaded the correct architecture so that's not the problem23:07
michaelwhere is it installed?23:07
haiderwhats this ?23:08
elliottnot sure what you mean23:08
haiderwhere the hell i am23:08
haider?23:08
michaelwhich drive did you put it on23:08
michaelhardy, that is23:09
haidercool linux chat23:09
haidervery cool23:09
michaelyes it is.23:09
Iced_Eaglehaider: Did you get lost or something? lol23:09
haiderno dear23:10
Iced_Eaglenot sure how you don't realize where you are23:10
michaeli know...23:10
michaellolz23:10
haideri was looking for voice chat over linux23:10
haideri installed everything23:10
haiderlolz23:10
michaelokay... maybee you can help me with adept23:10
elliottmichael: I put it on the only HD in the system, in lpartition sda5 or something23:10
haiderok guys23:11
michaelelliott: and its the only bootable hard disk?23:11
haideranyone needs help i can help him23:11
elliottyeah23:11
michaelinteresting.. is it bringing up the GRUB?23:11
elliottnot that i can tell23:12
haiderany programmer here ?23:12
elliottit's just a blinking cursor, and it doesn't even get that far when the cd isn't in23:12
haideri want a serious person23:12
cab86anyone who can tell me how to fix a permission issue with my ati drivers?23:12
haideruse chown23:13
michaelokay, try reconfiguring the boot order with your HD 1st and the disk drives second23:13
haiderhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh23:13
elliotthow do I do that?23:13
nosrednaekimhaider: what do you need a programmer for?23:14
michaelyour going to have to restart, and then enter setup, and then you will have to find your boot order, and move the hard disk to the top23:14
haiderdeveloping something new23:14
nosrednaekimhaider: which would be....23:15
haiderdeveloping an online applications or Mobile applications23:16
michaelokay, now to my problem.. hopefully.. i get this error when starting adapt "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."23:16
elliottmichael: the boot order isn't a problem, i was running gutsy fine 2 hours ago23:16
michaeldid you re-partition?23:16
elliottmichael:  did you actually run apt-setup?23:16
elliottyes23:16
michaelno, it wouldnt let me run it23:16
elliottwhy not?23:17
haiderso i want a team23:17
cab86anyone here who can figure out permission problems?23:18
haidercab86 use sudo while installing23:19
haideror sudo su23:19
cab86ok23:19
haiderlog in as root23:19
cab86that's not the problem23:19
cab86the problem is that i don't have DRI in user mode, only in root mode23:19
cab86i'm guessing there is some permission problem screwing it up...23:20
haiderwhich linux version u use ?23:20
cab86libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied)23:20
michaelidk. it just wont run23:20
cab86i'm using ubuntu, but the other channel seems very busy and not helpful atm...   besides, it is an issue that could happen here too23:21
michaelokay, im having problems running apt-setup23:23
michaelcan anyone help?23:25
haiderwhat kind of problems ?23:25
rickeyhello my adept manager is hunng up with a sigabrt sinnnngel . what is the sudo command to free it up23:25
elliottwhat happens when you run it?23:25
Odd-rationale!aptissues23:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptissues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:26
Odd-rationale!apt-issues23:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-issues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:26
Odd-rationalehmm. i forgot23:26
haiderbye23:26
rickeyit say there is anoth aspect of adept mmmmanager useing it23:27
stdin!aptfix23:27
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:27
rickeykillx wont seem to close it23:27
rickeyok thanks23:28
GrenyarisI have a question about wireless that may or may not be easy to answer...23:31
GrenyarisMy wireless router is set to use WEP and a key, the key is in the interfaces file...23:31
GrenyarisEverything works when I have the TXKey in the router set to #1, but I have it set to #3...23:31
GrenyarisIs there a way to set the TXKey value in the interfaces file?23:31
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desktophi can somebody help me with my surround sound in kubuntu?23:34
rickeysomme other program is useing my adept manager, and it wont close23:36
rickeyi cant get into adept the rigth way so i cant upgrade23:37
Odd-rationaledid you try ubotu's suggestion?23:37
rickey anyone know how to force close it23:37
Odd-rationale!aptfix | rickey23:37
uboturickey: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:37
Odd-rationalerickey: are you on gutsy?23:38
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rickeyyes odd23:40
Newbuntu_usercan some1 help me with getting my surround sound to work?23:40
Odd-rationalerickey: fresh install?23:40
rickeyyes23:41
Odd-rationalerickey: ok. after closing adept and running that command from ubotu try upgrading from the command line. Open Konsole and do "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"23:42
NickPrestaWhat is the difference between the RC releases and final?23:44
Odd-rationaleNickPresta: ideally, nothing...23:45
NickPrestaOdd-rationale, I want to beat the initial surge of people upgrading on release day so if there is nothing substantially different, it would be ideal to upgrade tonight.23:46
rickeythanks odd thhat got it23:47
Odd-rationaleNickPresta: if you are using the rc (or beta), the final version will come as an update...23:47
Odd-rationaleNickPresta: so in other words, you will have a final version if you just continue updating23:47
cab86heh, today i had an 82 package update23:47
NickPrestaOdd-rationale, ah okay. Thanks.23:47
wesleywhen is kubuntu going release packes of kde4.1 beta,s23:48
Hydrogensometime after 4.1 beta's are released23:50
HydrogenI would assume23:50
Newbuntu_userAre my messages getting through?  Can somebody help me with getting surround sound?23:50
Newbuntu_userhello?23:54
cab86unfortunately there are alot of ppl idle...23:54
jaaroohello there. Does anyone have some experiences with Test::Class combined with Class::Std? I'm experiencing difficulties. If I write very simple test suite (without actual class functionality) Test::Class works as is expected, but whenever I add use Class::Std statement to the code, i get following error when I try to run tests: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/perl5/Test/Class.pm line 58.23:55
jaaroooh, sorry, bad channel23:57

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