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bignosebeuno: yes, exactly.00:04
bignosecan someone please tell me the email address of Marien Zwart <URL: https://launchpad.net/~marienz > ?00:04
bignosethanks beuno for the answer (via /query)00:05
thumperok, how does one add download files for a project?00:05
beunothumper, AFAIK, you have to add them within a series00:06
beunoso you have to create a series first  :)00:07
thumpergot a series00:07
thumperbeuno: but I still don't see an obvious link00:07
beunothumper, than, https://launchpad.net/$project/+download00:08
beunoand you should have a link saying "Add download file for release: X"00:08
thumpernope00:08
thumperweird00:08
beunothumper, maybe a milestone too?00:09
thumperNo download files exist for this project.00:09
thumpermade a milestone too00:09
beunotake a look at: https://launchpad.net/bzr/+download00:09
thumperyeah, seen that00:09
beunothumper, mind sharing what project it is?  I can try and help you hunt it down  :)00:10
thumperbeuno: local instance of launchpad.dev :)00:10
beunoah00:10
beunoheh00:10
beunothat'll be tricky for me  :p00:10
thumperbut I thought is was a fairly obvious thing00:10
thumperso instead of asking internally, I thought someone here might help :)00:11
beunothumper, sorry, the rest is out of my league  :)00:12
thumperbeuno: that's ok, thanks00:12
mwhudson_thumper: we'll i've managed to add a release00:19
mwhudson_thumper: are you owner/admin ?00:19
thumpermwhudson_: owner00:20
thumpermwhudson_: where do you add a release00:20
mwhudson_thumper: do you have a 'register a release' link?00:21
thumperI have a series and milestone00:21
mwhudson_on the view of the series00:21
thumperah yes00:21
thumperah ha00:21
thumpernow I see add a download file00:22
thumpernow I see the release on +download with add a file00:22
thumperf*ck that's confusing00:22
thumperand I know this system00:22
thumpersorta00:22
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ademungjamesh: remember the other night when i was asking you what you thought of zope?  I'm still looking at it, and i was wondering if you could tell me what the specs are of the machines launchpad is hosted on... as i'm getting the impression zope is pretty heavy/fat03:15
jameshademung: we've got a pretty hefty server running Postgres and three machines running the Launchpad app behind apache as a load balancer03:17
jameshademung: each app server runs one instance of Launchpad per CPU core to make full use of the resources03:18
jamesh(without doing so, the Python GIL limits the amount of parallelism that can be achieved)03:18
jamesheach instance is running the default number of request threads (6)03:19
ademungjamesh: ouch, not to even begin to imply i'd ever get as much traffic as launchpad, but that seems like a prohibitively high requirement. (especially considering, and dont take this the wrong way, i find launchpad to be slow)03:19
jameshademung: I run the LP code locally without much trouble03:20
spivademung: the slowness is largely because of https, I believe03:20
jameshsmaller sites wouldn't need anything like the hardware we're using03:20
ademungjamesh: like for testing?03:20
spivwhich reduces caching and increases network roundtrips.03:21
jameshademung: and development03:21
ademungyeah, well if i had my way it wouldn't ALWAYS be small :-p03:21
jameshademung: the nice thing about our setup is that the concurrency is handled through the database03:21
jameshso scaling up to more app servers is pretty easy03:21
ademungjamesh: i assume you develop on ubuntu right? did you just install the zope3 package or what? there seems to be very little information on the subject (since dapper anywho)03:22
FujitsuEggs are the only sane way to get Zope 3 in Ubuntu at the moment.03:23
jameshademung: we've got a local copy of zope3 for LP03:23
ademungFujitsu: eggs?03:23
FujitsuPython eggs.03:23
ademungi cringed when i saw an entire filesystem hierarchy within /usr/lib/zope3 lol03:24
jameshademung: the Zope guys have been splitting Zope 3 into multiple packages03:24
FujitsuThe 3.4 split eggs setup is much, much nicer.03:24
jameshademung: I don't know where the Ubuntu guys are up to with packaging it now, but you can get bits from cheeseshop.python.org03:24
FujitsuWe're not doing anything, but Debian *might* be.03:25
jameshor just do whatever the grok docs say to do03:25
ademunghrm03:32
ademungbtw i should mention i really appreciate having you guys to talk to about thsi03:32
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ademunghrm, taking off03:39
ademungthanks03:39
macowhat does it mean if the PPA says there's a chroot wait error?04:09
macoer, it says "chroot problem" and the log's name ends in CHROOTWAIT...is that a problem with my source package or is that out of my control and i should re-upload because the server's being stupid?04:11
jameshmaco: it means something happened to one of the build machines04:14
jameshyou can probably resubmit the build04:14
Hobbseesigh, more unwanted bugmail.04:15
macodo i need to change versions?04:15
jamesh(there should be an option for that in the actions menu04:15
macoactions menu?04:15
jameshmaco: on the page for the failed build, check the list of actions in the top left04:15
macoit happened on all 3 archs for my package04:15
Hobbseemaco: where's the build log?04:16
macohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/13757543/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.twitux_0.61-0-maco2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz04:16
macochange i386 as needed04:16
Hobbseejamesh: it's a bug that happens at least once a week, but is only regarded as a low prority by the soyuz devs, and has no plans to be fixed anytime soon04:16
Hobbseemaco: you need to hit retry on the builds.04:16
macowhere's that?04:17
macoi just see "view ppa" and "view build records"04:17
Hobbseeso hit view build records04:17
macooh wait...login timed out :P04:17
Hobbseeopen each of them, and then on the left hand side for each of the builds, there's a retry builds menu option04:17
Hobbseejamesh: you just need to tell people to retry the builds (it's a race condition)04:18
jameshHobbsee: that's what I thought I did04:18
macooh race conditions are fun. not.04:18
macoi wasnt logged in anymore, apparently04:18
macoso i couldnt see the retry button04:18
Hobbseejamesh: oh, my bad.  i only read the last bit04:18
Hobbseejamesh: i tried to give you context on the bug, though :)04:18
macois it possible to cancel a build?04:35
maco2 of the archs built and informed me of missing build dependencies.  the 3rd will have the same issue, so can i kill it?04:35
macoand is there a list of what the build scores mean?04:39
Hobbseemaco: nope04:43
Hobbseemaco: and the higher, the further up the queue it is04:43
macook04:44
macoHobbsee: can you tell me what went wrong here? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13777284/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.twitux_0.61-0-maco3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz04:47
macoit says apt-get failed on one of the dependencies...why would that kill it? shouldnt it just try again to get the build dep?04:48
macoit happened on both archs that tried04:48
Fujitsumaco: That's not a recoverable error.04:49
HobbseeUnpacking libgio-dev (from .../libgio-dev_0.1.2-0ubuntu1_lpia.deb) ...04:49
FujitsuLooks at what it actually is.04:49
Hobbseedpkg: error processing /home/buildd/build-567832-1467603/chroot-autobuild/var/cache/apt/archives/libgio-dev_0.1.2-0ubuntu1_lpia.deb (--unpack):04:49
Hobbsee trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gio-2.0.pc', which is also in package libglib2.0-dev04:49
Hobbseethat's...tasty04:49
FujitsuI hope one of those is from the PPA.04:49
macono04:50
FujitsuCrap.04:50
macoall that's in my PPA is compiz fusion icon for gutsy04:50
FujitsuWhy's there a build for Hardy, then?04:50
macowell im trying to build twitux for hardy04:50
HobbseeFujitsu: doesn't have any reverse deps.04:51
HobbseeFujitsu: ask seb, though, it's his package04:51
FujitsuUh, GIO is used by lots of things...04:52
FujitsuI guess it must have been integrated into glib.04:52
FujitsuSo libgio-dev should probably be removed.04:52
FujitsuAhhh.04:52
HobbseeFujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gio-standalone/+bug/18294504:53
FujitsuIt's from gio-standalone, so is probably meant to conflict with the glib version.04:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182945 in gio-standalone "[hardy] gio standalone obsoleted by gio in glib" [Undecided,Confirmed] 04:53
macoso...what do i do?04:53
FujitsuAt any rate, twitux shouldn't be build-depending on libgio-dev.04:53
macoshould it just depend on gio?04:53
FujitsuNo.04:54
macoit says gio 2.15.504:54
FujitsuThe gio stuff is in libglib2.0-dev04:54
macohttp://live.gnome.org/DanielMorales/Twitux04:54
macooh so the site's lying about needing libglib and libgio? ok04:54
Hobbseemaco: the upstream packages may not be exactly the same as the distro packages04:54
Fujitsugio is part of our glib package now.04:54
macook04:54
HobbseeFujitsu: sounds like a removal request, then.04:54
FujitsuPoke Seb about it this evening, I guess.04:55
macowow theres a lot of i386 stuff waiting to be built, it seems05:11
FujitsuIndeed. I wonder if the buildd master has died.05:12
Fujitsu(and one of the buildds is dead)05:12
FujitsuAH.05:12
FujitsuLangpacks.05:12
FujitsuThat's why they were all vacant.05:12
ubotuNew bug: #220485 in rosetta "Test failure on Hardy: person-editlanguages" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22048505:20
ubotuNew bug: #220486 in launchpad "Subscribing to a blueprint no longer adds it to "Related blueprints" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22048605:25
emgenthello people06:00
maco/part/part06:06
macooops06:06
emgentlol06:07
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carlosmorning07:46
Hobbseegood morning carlos!07:49
thumperhi carlos, Hobbsee07:51
* Hobbsee waves to thumper07:52
mdkeI've just tried to upgrade a branch on LP, and the conversion failed... what do I need to do now to restore the backup and fix the branch (assuming that it is broken)?08:32
mdkehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7736/08:32
mdkejamesh: around by any chance?08:33
jameshmdke: yeah08:33
mdkeohew08:33
mdkephew08:33
jameshmdke: yikes.  You have a dirstate-with-subtree branch08:35
mdkejamesh: yes, due to bzr-svn import08:35
mdkebut the upgrade worked on my local branches08:35
jameshmdke: okay.  The recommended upgrade path would be to rich-root-pack format then.08:35
mdkejamesh: right, that's what I upgraded to in my local copies08:36
mdkejamesh: is a special command needed?08:36
mdkeI can't remember...08:36
jameshmdke: you can do "bzr upgrade --rich-root-pack"08:36
mdkejamesh: ah, damn. Can i still do that, or do I need to restore the backup first?08:36
jameshmdke: you might need to move the backup.bzr directory back to .bzr on the server though08:36
mdkeaha. How can I do that?08:37
Hobbseehmm.  if i relinquish control of a team, i won't be able to act on any of the LP bugs there.08:37
jameshwith lftp or sftp08:37
mdkejamesh: would you mind spoonfeeding me the command? I don't want to break anything else :)08:37
jameshmdke: if you've already got a local copy of the branch, I'd recommend deleting the remote data and pushing a fresh copy08:38
jameshmdke: do you want to try that?08:38
mdkejamesh: I can't - LP tells me I don't have the authority to delete all the branch subscriptions and bug links08:38
mdkealso, I'd rather not delete those :)08:38
jameshmdke: not deleting the branch: deleting the branch data.08:38
jameshso you'll have an empty directory to push a new copy to08:39
mdkejamesh: oh08:39
mdkejamesh: how is that done?08:39
jameshmdke: run "lftp sftp://mdke@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-hardy/"08:40
jameshthen do "rm -r -f .bzr" at the lftp prompt08:40
mdkewow08:41
jameshdo the same for the backup.bzr directory08:41
mdkeok, in progress08:41
mdkejamesh: looks like it might take a while08:42
jameshmdke: come to think of it, doing "bzr upgrade --rich-root-pack" would probably have failed too08:42
jameshmdke: since the subtree format can represent data that rich-root-pack can't08:42
jameshalthough the revisions in your branch weren't using those features08:43
mdkeit went ok on the local copy, as long as I did it on individual branches rather than a shared repo08:43
jameshright.  You can branch them into a rich-root repo, but not upgrade the old repo08:44
mdkesorry, that's what I did, yeah08:44
Hobbseeless badges :(08:46
mdkejamesh: ok, this looks like it will take a long time, so I'm going to have to leave it running. After it finishes and I delete the backup.bzr dir, what do I do?08:46
* mdke gives Hobbsee a badge08:46
jameshmdke: push your local copy of the branch to sftp://...08:46
mdkejamesh: ok, just push in the usual way. Can I do that from a shared repo ok?08:46
jameshmdke: "bzr push --use-existing-dir sftp://..." should do it.08:47
jameshshouldn't matter if your local copy is in a shared repo08:47
mdkejamesh: right, thanks a lot08:47
Hobbseemdke: :D08:47
jameshmdke: note that the disk area used for sftp and bzr+ssh is different to what is served from http://bazaar.launchpad.net, so your branch should remain available during this process08:48
jameshthe mirroring process will fail until a valid branch is in place again08:48
mdkejamesh: that's fine08:48
mdkeah, cool08:49
Hobbseeis there any easy way to get the equivalent of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=952 for any given milestone?08:49
Hobbsee(that is that size?)08:52
mptGooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!08:58
Fujitsumpt!08:58
Hobbseemorning mpt!08:59
mptWhat it is, my doges09:01
Hobbseempt: resigning from teams is fun!09:02
mptoh rly09:02
mptFun in the lots-of-page-loads sense, or fun in the GBCW sense?09:03
Hobbseempt: gbcw?09:04
mpthttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gbcw09:04
FujitsuIt's also the only time I've ever seen a bug nickname used.09:05
Hobbseempt: the latter, but not quite that strongly.09:05
Hobbseempt:  i might use that, if i step down from MOTU, though.09:05
mptSo what did you step down from?09:06
Hobbseempt: kubuntu council09:06
mptah09:07
* mpt is blissfully unaware of Kubuntu processes09:07
* Hobbsee is not running the distro, so sees no actual reason why she should be a part of the council09:07
Hobbseempt: what processes?  :)09:07
ubotuNew bug: #220527 in malone "URL field isn't focused by default in "Confirm project" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22052709:40
ubotuNew bug: #220529 in malone ""Confirm project" page is very wide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22052909:40
mantienahi all09:40
* Fujitsu smells a bird.09:42
ubotuNew bug: #220535 in malone "Make it possible for admins to hide bug comments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22053510:21
ubotuNew bug: #220539 in launchpad "bug homepage shows pointless/alarming CVE danger icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22053910:41
FujitsuIt's alarming both because of the icon, and the horridness that lurks behind!10:41
tarzeaui forgot my password, but one of my email addresses in my gpg key doesn't work anymore (the one i'm registered with at launchpad), can i have it resetted?11:04
Fujitsutarzeau: You can use any email address associated with your Launchpad account. If you have just one, please ask a question at the URL in the topic.11:06
tarzeauFujitsu: asking a questions works only when logged in: To continue, you must log in to Launchpad.11:07
tarzeauFujitsu: i tried the help.launchpad.net url from the topic11:07
tarzeauwhich also lists this place here11:07
FujitsuHahaha.11:07
FujitsuIndeed.11:07
tarzeaushould i create another account to ask the question?11:07
FujitsuYeah, you can then merge them yourself later.11:07
tarzeaui already have a 2nd account, but i don't remember the password either11:08
tarzeaucan i also remove accounts?11:08
FujitsuYou should merge them, rather than remove them.11:08
FujitsuYou can't remove an account - only deactivate it.11:08
tarzeaui see, i think i'll just not use it then anymore11:08
tarzeaui thought it's easy to reset a password11:08
FujitsuIt is.11:08
tarzeauno it's not11:09
FujitsuIf you have the email address.11:09
tarzeaui know the email address11:09
FujitsuHow do you expect it to authorise your password reset request if you can't receive an email?11:09
tarzeauthe email address is in my gpg key11:09
tarzeauamong other email addresses that work11:09
tarzeauso i'd like the launchpad system to send the password reset stuff to another gpg email address of the same key11:10
FujitsuLaunchpad will look at email addresses it knows are owened by you.11:10
FujitsuNot those that your key says you own.11:10
tarzeaulaunchpad should know that any email address in one gpg key is owned by the same person11:10
FujitsuWhy?11:10
FujitsuHow can it know that/11:10
tarzeaubecause that is logical11:10
FujitsuI can add your email address to my key.11:10
FujitsuI don't know why I would, but it's possible.11:10
tarzeaubut you can't read from my email address11:10
spivtarzeau: in that case, just create another launchpad account with that email address?11:11
tarzeauspiv: and then how do i merge the old data from the old account?11:11
spiv(and use it to request the merge at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad)11:12
spivTheoretically what launchpad could do is use your gpg key to authenticate your "lost password" request, by receiving a signed request or by sending an encrypted password reset token to an address you nominate.11:13
tarzeauspiv: yes that'd be fine for me as well11:13
spivSending a password reset to an arbitrary address is a bit problematic, you could use it to cause nuisance mails to someone (although it'd be easy to trace which launchpad account did it).11:14
spivAnd a protocol to take a signed "please reset my password request" would need to take care to avoid replay attacks.11:14
tarzeauwell it was just a question11:14
tarzeauthanks for the answer11:14
Fujitsu(bug #146861)11:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 146861 in launchpad "Allow claiming an account by signing/decrypting with the same OpenPGP key" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14686111:15
spivFujitsu: ah, well found :)11:15
spivI was about to suggest filing a bug, but of course someone would have got there first :11:15
spiv:)11:15
tarzeauwhat happens with accounts that don't have a working email address anymore?11:16
FujitsuThey sit around until they're reclaimed by a question.11:16
FujitsuOr somebody remembers the password.11:16
spivFujitsu: or someone brute-forces it ;)11:17
FujitsuThat too.11:17
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ffmmrevell: ping13:50
mrevellhey ffm13:50
ffmmrevell: PM'd.13:51
mrevellthanks ffm13:52
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ffmWhat web framework does launchpad use? Or is it your own?14:03
matsubaraffm: zopw14:04
matsubarazope14:04
hubunturegarding the mailing list: Is it possible to change the list to answer to the list itself or does it have to answer back to the sender? 14:39
hubuntuoour list is working now after the changes done over the weekend.. :. thanks! ;)14:39
ubotuNew bug: #220619 in soyuz "The buildlog file is accessible via http from the build master machine" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22061915:20
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ubotuNew bug: #220625 in launchpad-buildd "The buildlog file is accessible via http from the build master machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22062515:46
PengI guess line breaks in my SSH keys don't matter?15:51
* Hobbsee wonders how to turn off the option she turned on, somewhere, last week16:33
* Hobbsee wanders through the options, wondering where the hell it's gone now.16:35
Hobbseeoh, found it!16:36
HobbseeInclude bug descriptions when sending me bug notifications16:37
HobbseeTimezone:16:37
Hobbsee16:37
Hobbseeis still in the wrong place, it should really be under email settings.16:37
Hobbseeseeing as it relates to email, and all.16:37
hubuntuI\m sorry but RHEL killed my connection.. SO... Is it possible to change the reply-to for a mailing list in launchpad to be directed straight to the list and not the user? Or is there any reason not to?16:40
Hobbseehubuntu: reply to all?16:41
hubuntuIf I get an e-mail from a list and reply, then wouldn't it be natural that the reply button sent me to the list adress?16:41
hubuntuHobbsee?16:42
hubuntuaaaah16:42
jameshHobbsee: the timezone setting in Launchpad isn't used for email, iirc16:42
hubuntutricky, but It makes sende16:42
jameshit is used to display dates in the web UI16:42
hubuntu*sense16:42
Hobbseejamesh: yeah, but it's on the same page.16:42
Hobbseejamesh: the other part was just a bad copy/paste error16:43
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timlinuxhi19:08
timlinuxIm trying to reupload a package to my ppa after the initial build failed. But it says upload failed because its already uploaded to the ppa19:09
timlinuxshort of changing the version number, is there a way to remove the failed source?19:09
cprovtimlinux: no, you can upload a given version only once19:12
timlinuxcprov: ok.19:12
timlinuxin this situation what is best practice to name sequential package versions?19:13
timlinuxmy original package was qgis_0.10.019:15
timlinuxqgis_0.10.0-119:16
timlinuxis what I'm using...holds thumbs and hopes for the best.....19:17
hubuntugood luck timlinux !19:17
hubuntuI've tested qgis, is really neat19:17
timlinuxhubuntu: thanks19:17
timlinuxhubuntu: I just wish I knew a bit more about packaging19:18
timlinuxlike how to get its icon to appear in the (k)ububtu menus19:19
geseruse a desktop file, e.g. qgis.desktop19:21
hubuntummm go to freedesktop.org19:24
hubuntuI don'æt know ANYTHING about packaging... but I truly appreciate such work19:24
hubuntugo talk to the MOTUs... they know packaging19:24
hubuntutype: /J #MOTU19:24
hubuntuwait19:24
hubuntutype /j #ubuntu-motu19:25
hubuntu;)19:25
timlinuxhubuntu: :-) thanks - I will ask them next time Im online thanks!19:26
hubuntutimlinux, visit: 19:27
hubuntuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing19:27
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ubotuNew bug: #220758 in malone "can not change attachment mime type" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22075821:35
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