[00:04] beuno: yes, exactly. [00:04] can someone please tell me the email address of Marien Zwart ? [00:05] thanks beuno for the answer (via /query) [00:05] ok, how does one add download files for a project? [00:06] thumper, AFAIK, you have to add them within a series [00:07] so you have to create a series first :) [00:07] got a series [00:07] beuno: but I still don't see an obvious link [00:08] thumper, than, https://launchpad.net/$project/+download [00:08] and you should have a link saying "Add download file for release: X" [00:08] nope [00:08] weird [00:09] thumper, maybe a milestone too? [00:09] No download files exist for this project. [00:09] made a milestone too [00:09] take a look at: https://launchpad.net/bzr/+download [00:09] yeah, seen that [00:10] thumper, mind sharing what project it is? I can try and help you hunt it down :) [00:10] beuno: local instance of launchpad.dev :) [00:10] ah [00:10] heh [00:10] that'll be tricky for me :p [00:10] but I thought is was a fairly obvious thing [00:11] so instead of asking internally, I thought someone here might help :) [00:12] thumper, sorry, the rest is out of my league :) [00:12] beuno: that's ok, thanks [00:19] thumper: we'll i've managed to add a release [00:19] thumper: are you owner/admin ? [00:20] mwhudson_: owner [00:20] mwhudson_: where do you add a release [00:21] thumper: do you have a 'register a release' link? [00:21] I have a series and milestone [00:21] on the view of the series [00:21] ah yes [00:21] ah ha [00:22] now I see add a download file [00:22] now I see the release on +download with add a file [00:22] f*ck that's confusing [00:22] and I know this system [00:22] sorta === barry-away is now known as barry [03:15] jamesh: remember the other night when i was asking you what you thought of zope? I'm still looking at it, and i was wondering if you could tell me what the specs are of the machines launchpad is hosted on... as i'm getting the impression zope is pretty heavy/fat [03:17] ademung: we've got a pretty hefty server running Postgres and three machines running the Launchpad app behind apache as a load balancer [03:18] ademung: each app server runs one instance of Launchpad per CPU core to make full use of the resources [03:18] (without doing so, the Python GIL limits the amount of parallelism that can be achieved) [03:19] each instance is running the default number of request threads (6) [03:19] jamesh: ouch, not to even begin to imply i'd ever get as much traffic as launchpad, but that seems like a prohibitively high requirement. (especially considering, and dont take this the wrong way, i find launchpad to be slow) [03:20] ademung: I run the LP code locally without much trouble [03:20] ademung: the slowness is largely because of https, I believe [03:20] smaller sites wouldn't need anything like the hardware we're using [03:20] jamesh: like for testing? [03:21] which reduces caching and increases network roundtrips. [03:21] ademung: and development [03:21] yeah, well if i had my way it wouldn't ALWAYS be small :-p [03:21] ademung: the nice thing about our setup is that the concurrency is handled through the database [03:21] so scaling up to more app servers is pretty easy [03:22] jamesh: i assume you develop on ubuntu right? did you just install the zope3 package or what? there seems to be very little information on the subject (since dapper anywho) [03:23] Eggs are the only sane way to get Zope 3 in Ubuntu at the moment. [03:23] ademung: we've got a local copy of zope3 for LP [03:23] Fujitsu: eggs? [03:23] Python eggs. [03:24] i cringed when i saw an entire filesystem hierarchy within /usr/lib/zope3 lol [03:24] ademung: the Zope guys have been splitting Zope 3 into multiple packages [03:24] The 3.4 split eggs setup is much, much nicer. [03:24] ademung: I don't know where the Ubuntu guys are up to with packaging it now, but you can get bits from cheeseshop.python.org [03:25] We're not doing anything, but Debian *might* be. [03:25] or just do whatever the grok docs say to do [03:32] hrm [03:32] btw i should mention i really appreciate having you guys to talk to about thsi === barry is now known as barry-away [03:39] hrm, taking off [03:39] thanks [04:09] what does it mean if the PPA says there's a chroot wait error? [04:11] er, it says "chroot problem" and the log's name ends in CHROOTWAIT...is that a problem with my source package or is that out of my control and i should re-upload because the server's being stupid? [04:14] maco: it means something happened to one of the build machines [04:14] you can probably resubmit the build [04:15] sigh, more unwanted bugmail. [04:15] do i need to change versions? [04:15] (there should be an option for that in the actions menu [04:15] actions menu? [04:15] maco: on the page for the failed build, check the list of actions in the top left [04:15] it happened on all 3 archs for my package [04:16] maco: where's the build log? [04:16] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13757543/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.twitux_0.61-0-maco2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz [04:16] change i386 as needed [04:16] jamesh: it's a bug that happens at least once a week, but is only regarded as a low prority by the soyuz devs, and has no plans to be fixed anytime soon [04:16] maco: you need to hit retry on the builds. [04:17] where's that? [04:17] i just see "view ppa" and "view build records" [04:17] so hit view build records [04:17] oh wait...login timed out :P [04:17] open each of them, and then on the left hand side for each of the builds, there's a retry builds menu option [04:18] jamesh: you just need to tell people to retry the builds (it's a race condition) [04:18] Hobbsee: that's what I thought I did [04:18] oh race conditions are fun. not. [04:18] i wasnt logged in anymore, apparently [04:18] so i couldnt see the retry button [04:18] jamesh: oh, my bad. i only read the last bit [04:18] jamesh: i tried to give you context on the bug, though :) [04:35] is it possible to cancel a build? [04:35] 2 of the archs built and informed me of missing build dependencies. the 3rd will have the same issue, so can i kill it? [04:39] and is there a list of what the build scores mean? [04:43] maco: nope [04:43] maco: and the higher, the further up the queue it is [04:44] ok [04:47] Hobbsee: can you tell me what went wrong here? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13777284/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.twitux_0.61-0-maco3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:48] it says apt-get failed on one of the dependencies...why would that kill it? shouldnt it just try again to get the build dep? [04:48] it happened on both archs that tried [04:49] maco: That's not a recoverable error. [04:49] Unpacking libgio-dev (from .../libgio-dev_0.1.2-0ubuntu1_lpia.deb) ... [04:49] Looks at what it actually is. [04:49] dpkg: error processing /home/buildd/build-567832-1467603/chroot-autobuild/var/cache/apt/archives/libgio-dev_0.1.2-0ubuntu1_lpia.deb (--unpack): [04:49] trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gio-2.0.pc', which is also in package libglib2.0-dev [04:49] that's...tasty [04:49] I hope one of those is from the PPA. [04:50] no [04:50] Crap. [04:50] all that's in my PPA is compiz fusion icon for gutsy [04:50] Why's there a build for Hardy, then? [04:50] well im trying to build twitux for hardy [04:51] Fujitsu: doesn't have any reverse deps. [04:51] Fujitsu: ask seb, though, it's his package [04:52] Uh, GIO is used by lots of things... [04:52] I guess it must have been integrated into glib. [04:52] So libgio-dev should probably be removed. [04:52] Ahhh. [04:53] Fujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gio-standalone/+bug/182945 [04:53] It's from gio-standalone, so is probably meant to conflict with the glib version. [04:53] Launchpad bug 182945 in gio-standalone "[hardy] gio standalone obsoleted by gio in glib" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:53] so...what do i do? [04:53] At any rate, twitux shouldn't be build-depending on libgio-dev. [04:53] should it just depend on gio? [04:54] No. [04:54] it says gio 2.15.5 [04:54] The gio stuff is in libglib2.0-dev [04:54] http://live.gnome.org/DanielMorales/Twitux [04:54] oh so the site's lying about needing libglib and libgio? ok [04:54] maco: the upstream packages may not be exactly the same as the distro packages [04:54] gio is part of our glib package now. [04:54] ok [04:54] Fujitsu: sounds like a removal request, then. [04:55] Poke Seb about it this evening, I guess. [05:11] wow theres a lot of i386 stuff waiting to be built, it seems [05:12] Indeed. I wonder if the buildd master has died. [05:12] (and one of the buildds is dead) [05:12] AH. [05:12] Langpacks. [05:12] That's why they were all vacant. [05:20] New bug: #220485 in rosetta "Test failure on Hardy: person-editlanguages" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220485 [05:25] New bug: #220486 in launchpad "Subscribing to a blueprint no longer adds it to "Related blueprints" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220486 [06:00] hello people [06:06] /part/part [06:06] oops [06:07] lol === asac_ is now known as asac [07:46] morning [07:49] good morning carlos! [07:51] hi carlos, Hobbsee [07:52] * Hobbsee waves to thumper [08:32] I've just tried to upgrade a branch on LP, and the conversion failed... what do I need to do now to restore the backup and fix the branch (assuming that it is broken)? [08:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7736/ [08:33] jamesh: around by any chance? [08:33] mdke: yeah [08:33] ohew [08:33] phew [08:35] mdke: yikes. You have a dirstate-with-subtree branch [08:35] jamesh: yes, due to bzr-svn import [08:35] but the upgrade worked on my local branches [08:35] mdke: okay. The recommended upgrade path would be to rich-root-pack format then. [08:36] jamesh: right, that's what I upgraded to in my local copies [08:36] jamesh: is a special command needed? [08:36] I can't remember... [08:36] mdke: you can do "bzr upgrade --rich-root-pack" [08:36] jamesh: ah, damn. Can i still do that, or do I need to restore the backup first? [08:36] mdke: you might need to move the backup.bzr directory back to .bzr on the server though [08:37] aha. How can I do that? [08:37] hmm. if i relinquish control of a team, i won't be able to act on any of the LP bugs there. [08:37] with lftp or sftp [08:37] jamesh: would you mind spoonfeeding me the command? I don't want to break anything else :) [08:38] mdke: if you've already got a local copy of the branch, I'd recommend deleting the remote data and pushing a fresh copy [08:38] mdke: do you want to try that? [08:38] jamesh: I can't - LP tells me I don't have the authority to delete all the branch subscriptions and bug links [08:38] also, I'd rather not delete those :) [08:38] mdke: not deleting the branch: deleting the branch data. [08:39] so you'll have an empty directory to push a new copy to [08:39] jamesh: oh [08:39] jamesh: how is that done? [08:40] mdke: run "lftp sftp://mdke@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-hardy/" [08:40] then do "rm -r -f .bzr" at the lftp prompt [08:41] wow [08:41] do the same for the backup.bzr directory [08:41] ok, in progress [08:42] jamesh: looks like it might take a while [08:42] mdke: come to think of it, doing "bzr upgrade --rich-root-pack" would probably have failed too [08:42] mdke: since the subtree format can represent data that rich-root-pack can't [08:43] although the revisions in your branch weren't using those features [08:43] it went ok on the local copy, as long as I did it on individual branches rather than a shared repo [08:44] right. You can branch them into a rich-root repo, but not upgrade the old repo [08:44] sorry, that's what I did, yeah [08:46] less badges :( [08:46] jamesh: ok, this looks like it will take a long time, so I'm going to have to leave it running. After it finishes and I delete the backup.bzr dir, what do I do? [08:46] * mdke gives Hobbsee a badge [08:46] mdke: push your local copy of the branch to sftp://... [08:46] jamesh: ok, just push in the usual way. Can I do that from a shared repo ok? [08:47] mdke: "bzr push --use-existing-dir sftp://..." should do it. [08:47] shouldn't matter if your local copy is in a shared repo [08:47] jamesh: right, thanks a lot [08:47] mdke: :D [08:48] mdke: note that the disk area used for sftp and bzr+ssh is different to what is served from http://bazaar.launchpad.net, so your branch should remain available during this process [08:48] the mirroring process will fail until a valid branch is in place again [08:48] jamesh: that's fine [08:49] ah, cool [08:49] is there any easy way to get the equivalent of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=952 for any given milestone? [08:52] (that is that size?) [08:58] Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [08:58] mpt! [08:59] morning mpt! [09:01] What it is, my doges [09:02] mpt: resigning from teams is fun! [09:02] oh rly [09:03] Fun in the lots-of-page-loads sense, or fun in the GBCW sense? [09:04] mpt: gbcw? [09:04] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gbcw [09:05] It's also the only time I've ever seen a bug nickname used. [09:05] mpt: the latter, but not quite that strongly. [09:05] mpt: i might use that, if i step down from MOTU, though. [09:06] So what did you step down from? [09:06] mpt: kubuntu council [09:07] ah [09:07] * mpt is blissfully unaware of Kubuntu processes [09:07] * Hobbsee is not running the distro, so sees no actual reason why she should be a part of the council [09:07] mpt: what processes? :) [09:40] New bug: #220527 in malone "URL field isn't focused by default in "Confirm project" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220527 [09:40] New bug: #220529 in malone ""Confirm project" page is very wide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220529 [09:40] hi all [09:42] * Fujitsu smells a bird. [10:21] New bug: #220535 in malone "Make it possible for admins to hide bug comments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220535 [10:41] New bug: #220539 in launchpad "bug homepage shows pointless/alarming CVE danger icon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220539 [10:41] It's alarming both because of the icon, and the horridness that lurks behind! [11:04] i forgot my password, but one of my email addresses in my gpg key doesn't work anymore (the one i'm registered with at launchpad), can i have it resetted? [11:06] tarzeau: You can use any email address associated with your Launchpad account. If you have just one, please ask a question at the URL in the topic. [11:07] Fujitsu: asking a questions works only when logged in: To continue, you must log in to Launchpad. [11:07] Fujitsu: i tried the help.launchpad.net url from the topic [11:07] which also lists this place here [11:07] Hahaha. [11:07] Indeed. [11:07] should i create another account to ask the question? [11:07] Yeah, you can then merge them yourself later. [11:08] i already have a 2nd account, but i don't remember the password either [11:08] can i also remove accounts? [11:08] You should merge them, rather than remove them. [11:08] You can't remove an account - only deactivate it. [11:08] i see, i think i'll just not use it then anymore [11:08] i thought it's easy to reset a password [11:08] It is. [11:09] no it's not [11:09] If you have the email address. [11:09] i know the email address [11:09] How do you expect it to authorise your password reset request if you can't receive an email? [11:09] the email address is in my gpg key [11:09] among other email addresses that work [11:10] so i'd like the launchpad system to send the password reset stuff to another gpg email address of the same key [11:10] Launchpad will look at email addresses it knows are owened by you. [11:10] Not those that your key says you own. [11:10] launchpad should know that any email address in one gpg key is owned by the same person [11:10] Why? [11:10] How can it know that/ [11:10] because that is logical [11:10] I can add your email address to my key. [11:10] I don't know why I would, but it's possible. [11:10] but you can't read from my email address [11:11] tarzeau: in that case, just create another launchpad account with that email address? [11:11] spiv: and then how do i merge the old data from the old account? [11:12] (and use it to request the merge at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad) [11:13] Theoretically what launchpad could do is use your gpg key to authenticate your "lost password" request, by receiving a signed request or by sending an encrypted password reset token to an address you nominate. [11:13] spiv: yes that'd be fine for me as well [11:14] Sending a password reset to an arbitrary address is a bit problematic, you could use it to cause nuisance mails to someone (although it'd be easy to trace which launchpad account did it). [11:14] And a protocol to take a signed "please reset my password request" would need to take care to avoid replay attacks. [11:14] well it was just a question [11:14] thanks for the answer [11:15] (bug #146861) [11:15] Launchpad bug 146861 in launchpad "Allow claiming an account by signing/decrypting with the same OpenPGP key" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146861 [11:15] Fujitsu: ah, well found :) [11:15] I was about to suggest filing a bug, but of course someone would have got there first : [11:15] :) [11:16] what happens with accounts that don't have a working email address anymore? [11:16] They sit around until they're reclaimed by a question. [11:16] Or somebody remembers the password. [11:17] Fujitsu: or someone brute-forces it ;) [11:17] That too. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:50] mrevell: ping [13:50] hey ffm [13:51] mrevell: PM'd. [13:52] thanks ffm === barry-away is now known as barry [14:03] What web framework does launchpad use? Or is it your own? [14:04] ffm: zopw [14:04] zope [14:39] regarding the mailing list: Is it possible to change the list to answer to the list itself or does it have to answer back to the sender? [14:39] oour list is working now after the changes done over the weekend.. :. thanks! ;) [15:20] New bug: #220619 in soyuz "The buildlog file is accessible via http from the build master machine" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220619 === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell === leonardr_ is now known as leonardr [15:46] New bug: #220625 in launchpad-buildd "The buildlog file is accessible via http from the build master machine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220625 [15:51] I guess line breaks in my SSH keys don't matter? [16:33] * Hobbsee wonders how to turn off the option she turned on, somewhere, last week [16:35] * Hobbsee wanders through the options, wondering where the hell it's gone now. [16:36] oh, found it! [16:37] Include bug descriptions when sending me bug notifications [16:37] Timezone: [16:37] [16:37] is still in the wrong place, it should really be under email settings. [16:37] seeing as it relates to email, and all. [16:40] I\m sorry but RHEL killed my connection.. SO... Is it possible to change the reply-to for a mailing list in launchpad to be directed straight to the list and not the user? Or is there any reason not to? [16:41] hubuntu: reply to all? [16:41] If I get an e-mail from a list and reply, then wouldn't it be natural that the reply button sent me to the list adress? [16:42] Hobbsee? [16:42] aaaah [16:42] Hobbsee: the timezone setting in Launchpad isn't used for email, iirc [16:42] tricky, but It makes sende [16:42] it is used to display dates in the web UI [16:42] *sense [16:42] jamesh: yeah, but it's on the same page. [16:43] jamesh: the other part was just a bad copy/paste error === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [19:08] hi [19:09] Im trying to reupload a package to my ppa after the initial build failed. But it says upload failed because its already uploaded to the ppa [19:09] short of changing the version number, is there a way to remove the failed source? [19:12] timlinux: no, you can upload a given version only once [19:12] cprov: ok. [19:13] in this situation what is best practice to name sequential package versions? [19:15] my original package was qgis_0.10.0 [19:16] qgis_0.10.0-1 [19:17] is what I'm using...holds thumbs and hopes for the best..... [19:17] good luck timlinux ! [19:17] I've tested qgis, is really neat [19:17] hubuntu: thanks [19:18] hubuntu: I just wish I knew a bit more about packaging [19:19] like how to get its icon to appear in the (k)ububtu menus [19:21] use a desktop file, e.g. qgis.desktop [19:24] mmm go to freedesktop.org [19:24] I don'æt know ANYTHING about packaging... but I truly appreciate such work [19:24] go talk to the MOTUs... they know packaging [19:24] type: /J #MOTU [19:24] wait [19:25] type /j #ubuntu-motu [19:25] ;) [19:26] hubuntu: :-) thanks - I will ask them next time Im online thanks! [19:27] timlinux, visit: [19:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing === barry is now known as barry-away === Ullner_F is now known as Ullner [21:35] New bug: #220758 in malone "can not change attachment mime type" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220758 === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === kiko_ is now known as kiko === Rinchen` is now known as Rinchen