[06:33] <dholbach> good morning
[09:11] <seb128> grrrr at the new launchpad choose-affected-product dialog
[09:12] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:12] <Hobbsee> is it better than the previous incarnations?
[09:12] <seb128> no it's not
[09:12] <Hobbsee> darn.
[09:12] <seb128> before I used to ctrl-v directly and press enter, that was efficiant
[09:12] <Hobbsee> it could get worse, and more confusing?
[09:13] <seb128> now the stupid button is selected by default so I need to use the mouse, click on the entry and then copy
[09:13] <Hobbsee> every time i went there, i just kept hitting random buttons until i got a valid option
[09:13] <Hobbsee> mpt: you're supposed to fix the whinging, please :)
[09:13] <seb128> Hobbsee: that's the "add an upstream watch url" dialog
[09:13] <Hobbsee> seb128: i thought the other had gotten morphed into it
[09:13] <seb128> I copy a zillion of bugzilla urls a week there
[09:13] <seb128> and it used to just work
[09:14] <seb128> sometime I think the launchpad team just hates users or something ;-)
[09:14] <Hobbsee> seb128: or they don't use the software that they write, more likely.
[09:14] <Hobbsee> seb128: then again, launchpad will be happy to tell you how you're using their software wrong, and how you should use it correctly instead.
[09:15] <mpt> Hobbsee, that might be on the cards for the next couple of months
[09:15] <mpt> No promises, though
[09:15] <seb128> Hobbsee: I doubt I'm using it wrongly there though ;-)
[09:15] <mpt> (Fixing the whinging, I mean, not telling you you're using it wrong)
[09:15] <Hobbsee> hahaa
[09:16] <Hobbsee> mpt: by all means, tell us about how we're supposed to get our tasks done by using your software.  start with the queue.
[09:16] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:16] <mpt> See, now that's a part we don't use
[09:16] <mpt> though I know cprov has been doing a lot of work on the queue lately
[09:16] <Hobbsee> yeah, the new version looks better
[09:18] <seb128> mpt: hey
[09:18] <seb128> mpt: who did the changes to the page to add an upstream watch?
[09:18] <mpt> seb128, no idea, sorry
[09:18] <mpt> What are the changes?
[09:19] <seb128> mpt: the page used to have one text entry to copy your upstream url
[09:20] <seb128> mpt: now it has 3 choices, upstream url, email, or just register
[09:20] <mpt> hmmm
[09:20] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/203722/+choose-affected-product for example
[09:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203722 in gnome-mount "Floppy Drive does not work in Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:20] <Amaranth> hrm, that's kind of bad
[09:20] <seb128> and the button gets selected by default
[09:21] <mpt> oy
[09:21] <seb128> which means you can't just ctrl-V and enter
[09:21] <seb128> which was nice and efficiant ;-)
[09:21] <mpt> Horizontal scrolling at 1024*768!
[09:21] <Amaranth> "Travis Watkins, the bug supervisor for Compiz, will be notified about this bug."
[09:21] <Amaranth> nice touch there
[09:21] <seb128> ;-)
[09:22] <mpt> Amaranth, serious or sarcastic?
[09:22] <Amaranth> mpt: little of both
[09:22] <mpt> ah, ha-ha-only-serious
[09:23] <Amaranth> all i can see it doing is helping people figure out how to hunt me down on IRC and bug me to death about their compiz problems
[09:24] <Amaranth> I really don't see what other use that except maybe an ego boost
[09:35] <Hobbsee> seb128: oh, that was allenap.
[09:35] <Hobbsee> seb128: i didn't realise that had gone into production yet
[09:36] <motti> hi all.
[09:36] <motti> is it possible to install symphonyone on a flash drive?
[09:36] <seb128> motti: hi, you want to try #ubuntu
[09:37] <seb128> no idea of what symphonyone is and that's not an user question channel
[09:37] <motti> http://symphonyos.com/cms/
[09:37] <Amaranth> that's not even an ubuntu question
[09:38] <motti> symphony one is an ubuntu based distro
[09:39] <motti> basically the distribution wrote a new desktop for ubuntu titled "mezzo" and shifted this new distrobution with this name.
[09:39] <Amaranth> i know what symphony is
[09:39] <Amaranth> but 1) it's not ubuntu and 2) this is a development channel
[09:39] <motti> k sorry
[09:41] <mpt> seb128, bug 220527 and bug 220529 reported
[09:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 220527 in malone "URL field isn't focused by default in "Confirm project" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220527
[09:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 220529 in malone ""Confirm project" page is very wide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220529
[09:41] <mpt> and I'll see what I can do about abolishing that page too
[09:41] <seb128> mpt: thanks!
[10:24] <shiyee> seb128: i just reported an error (and simple patch) with the gvfs dav backend ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529349 ), which makes it more or less useless for me - should i report this in launchpad as well?
[10:24] <ubotu> Gnome bug 529349 in webdav backend "Redirects with username doesn't work" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[10:25] <seb128> shiyee: hi, no need to, I'm subscribed to the gvfs bugzilla and we will do the GNOME 2.22.n updates in hardy-updates
[10:26] <shiyee> ok, thx :-)
[11:10]  * mpt is almost tempted to use multiple workspaces for the first time ever
[11:14] <james_w> Hi all. I don't know if you saw, but motu-release delegated to you on bug 186938. Can anyone approve or deny the request?
[11:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186938 in nautilus-wallpaper "nautilus-wallpaper not working in hardy heron after update to nautilus-2.21.6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186938
[11:14] <seb128> james_w: looking
[11:15] <seb128> james_w: doesn't seem good
[11:16] <james_w> why's that?
[11:16] <seb128> james_w: the gconf changes seem to have nothing to do with the issue and are not explained
[11:17] <james_w> "Add gconf-2.0 pkg-config flags so it can compile", so it seems it fails to build otherwise.
[11:18] <james_w> I haven't tested this though, let me look in to it.
[11:19] <seb128> src/nautilus-nwe.c uses gconf indeed
[11:20] <james_w> yeah, the current source fails to build in my pbuilder
[11:22] <seb128> james_w: approved
[11:22] <james_w> seb128: thanks.
[11:22] <seb128> you are welcome
[11:22] <james_w> would you be willing to sponsor once I have tested it?
[11:22] <seb128> do you need an uploader too?
[11:22] <seb128> sure
[11:22] <james_w> thanks, give me a few minutes
[11:23] <james_w> also, while you're here, do you have an opinion on bug 118936?
[11:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118936 in alacarte "Alacarte does not recover deleted menu items" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118936
[11:26] <seb128> james_w: better to ask to Amaranth, he's upstream
[11:27] <seb128> james_w: I think vuntz fixed the gnome-menus issues upstream too now
[11:27] <james_w> sorry, what's the gnome-menus issue?
[11:28] <seb128> let me see, I'm not sure now what was the issue exactly
[11:28] <seb128> I think Amaranth said that was not easy to do in alacarte due to gnome-menus limitations
[11:29] <seb128> james_w: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323771
[11:29] <ubotu> Gnome bug 323771 in libgnome-menu "undoing moves doesn't work" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[11:29] <seb128> though that's likely a different issue
[11:29] <seb128> reading your patch now ;-)
[11:30] <james_w> yeah, I'm not sure whether that applies here.
[11:30] <james_w> to revert deletes you need to remove all desktop files in a user's home directory, and I don't know how to get that list.
[11:31] <seb128> we should get vuntz to add something in gnome-menus to do that ;-)
[11:31] <seb128> otherwise I think we should just hide the delete option
[11:31] <james_w> shall I report a bug upstream then?
[11:31] <seb128> would be a good idea yes
[11:32] <seb128> your change looks correct but that's later for hardy changes now, let's get that to hardy-updates later rather
[11:33] <james_w> ok
[11:34] <james_w> The fix for nautilus-wallpaper works here.
[11:35] <seb128> good
[11:35] <seb128> I'll upload
[11:36] <james_w> thanks
[14:42] <coNP[uni]> hi
[14:43] <seb128> hey coNP[uni]
[14:43] <coNP[uni]> Hey seb128
[14:43] <dholbach> hi coNP[uni]
[14:43] <seb128> it has been a while
[14:43] <seb128> how are you ?
[14:43] <coNP[uni]> I guess I hardly missed the hardy cycle :)
[14:43] <coNP[uni]> Thanks, I am fine... with a lots of deadlines
[14:44] <coNP[uni]> and with a cup of coffee :)
[14:44] <coNP[uni]> And you, seb128?
[14:44] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[14:44] <seb128> lot to do
[14:52]  * mvo mumbles something about tea
[14:54] <geser> black tea?
[14:54]  * dholbach reckons mvo drinks chinese, green tea now :)
[14:55] <mvo> dholbach: yep :)
[14:55]  * geser ponders to make himself a cup of earl grey or some darjeeling
[14:56]  * geser should buy some white tea again
[17:41] <tienhn> hi, first time on this channel. for questions related to Hardy desktop, is this the right palce?
[17:41] <seb128> Hi, depend of the question
[17:42] <seb128> that's not really an user chan
[18:39] <crevette> can someone test something
[18:39] <crevette> Try to access a capplet where you have to authenticate, don't put your password and press cancel
[18:40] <crevette> something it keeps stalled
[18:40] <crevette> sometimes the grey layer stays for ever
[18:45] <crevette> hey seb128
[18:47] <seb128> lut crevette
[18:49] <pitti> seb128: so the 'browse ISO with nautilus" (libarchive) change didn't go in?
[18:49] <pitti> seb128: I don't have such an option in the context menu, at least
[18:50] <seb128> pitti: no, I mentioned it at the meeting, the .desktop is installed in the nautilus example directory
[18:50] <seb128> pitti: it's not possible to use non gvfs applications to open files on the new backends since they don't understand the uris
[18:50] <seb128> so gedit, eog, etc don't work there
[18:51] <seb128> though fedora workaround that, they use the fuse mounts automatically now, that's transparent for the user
[18:51] <pitti> seb128: ah, ok, thanks
[18:51] <seb128> but that was late for hardy
[18:51] <seb128> could be something to consider for 8.04.1
[19:53] <slomo> pedro_: any new crash-on-exit bugs with gtk# applications?
[19:54] <pedro_> slomo: nothing new, latest fix was a success, thanks for it :-)
[19:54] <crevette> salut seb128
[19:54] <crevette> ah gone
[19:54] <slomo> pedro_: great :)