[00:00] <Pici> CJS3141: Yep
[00:00] <altf2o> bazhang: appears that's going to be my only option as i can't seem to find anything to just play them.
[00:00] <VeN0mizer> hello all
[00:00] <CJS3141> Pici: Great--thanks much for the help--I'll give it a try now. :-)
[00:00] <zvacet> bitsbam : on top panel click on time applet
[00:00] <name10135> bazhang: I have 1 partition, and empty space.  Guided options include resising partition #1 and installing on that partition, all other guided options reformat the entire HDD, manual seems to be the only option to setup an install without destroying the partition w/ windows setup
[00:00] <VeN0mizer> what will be the purpose of ubuntu+1 when hardy is released?
[00:01] <dovlaz> does anyone know what divers will 8.04 support off the cd for broadcom wireless? (xps 1330)??
[00:01] <zvacet> bitsbam : right clcik
[00:01] <VeN0mizer> dovlaz do you know what card is in it now?
[00:01] <VeN0mizer> is it the dell 1390?
[00:01] <Waffle> altf2o, have you tried using iTunes with WINE?
[00:01] <bazhang> name10135: the guided resize is the safest; how big is this drive and how much for ubuntu
[00:01] <Daisuke_Ido> name10135, resize doesn't destroy the partition
[00:01] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, yes it's the dell 1505 one that comes in the xps 1330
[00:01] <altf2o> Waffle: actually no, i haden't even thought of that. Let me see if that might work.
[00:02] <bitsbam> zvcet, i right click, go to properties, but it has nothing to adjust time, only how it is displayed ( 24 or 12 hour, digital or analog)
[00:02] <VeN0mizer> woot I can tell you from experience with my e1505 then
[00:02] <VeN0mizer> the default drivers, (fwcutter) SUCK...they cause system hangs and slow speeds...I used NDISWrapper without ANY hitches...fast as lightning
[00:02] <Waffle> altf2o, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1347 and there is a new version of Wine out... 0.9.60, it might work better than 59, but its not in the repository yet
[00:02] <zvacet> bitsbam : no properties set date and time
[00:03] <VeN0mizer> the default drivers, (fwcutter) SUCK...they cause system hangs and slow speeds...I used NDISWrapper without ANY hitches...fast as lightning
[00:03] <VeN0mizer> that was to dovlaz, he got d/ced
[00:03] <VeN0mizer> so I had to repeat :P
[00:03] <bazhang> VeN0mizer: thanks for saying that twice ;]
[00:03] <Ktron> Alright, I have apache2, php5, and libapache2-mod-php5 installed, I've restarted apache2, and it still is prompting me to download my foobar.php instead of run it; what else should I check?
[00:03] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, thanks man. idk what happened there
[00:03] <name10135> bazhang: 160GB, 15gb win, 20gb ubuntu.  I don't understand that guided option.  It will resise the #1 partition & install linux.  The #1 partition is where windows is loaded, so how can that option work without erasing windows?
[00:03] <altf2o> ahh, very nice, thanks for the link & tip. Lets see if i can get it.
[00:03] <VeN0mizer> bazhang :P well I wanted to be SURE he saw it
[00:04] <bitsbam> zvacet, no option to set date and time
[00:04] <VeN0mizer> should have PM'ed, but I'm lazy
[00:04] <Aces|> Anyone have any idea why whenever I try and connect to a WEP protected wireless network Ubuntu freezes?
[00:04] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, do you think the drivers that come with the final release might be better than  ndiswrapper?
[00:04] <Waffle> Ktron, have you tried renaming it to .html and using the <?php ?>?
[00:04] <VeN0mizer> also dovlaz, with the beta version, I had to do a small tweak to get ndiswrapper to work...the final version should fix this though
[00:04] <bazhang> name10135: back up important data and trust in ubuntu--that option has been around a long time and used by countless folks, myself included, with nary a mishap
[00:05] <VeN0mizer> dovlaz, knowing the history of fwcutter, and seeing that history repeats itself...I doubt it :P
[00:05] <kinicker> Hey everyone! I'm having trouble mounting a VCD in Ubuntu. I am not a complete noob, I know what I am doing a little, but I can't get this to mount. Can someone help me?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> bazhang, it's not always the OS that causes data  loss, what about hdd failure?
[00:05] <zvacet> bitsbam : do you have that applet because I checked first and then aswer your question
[00:05] <Ktron> Waffle, I renamed it to .html and it now looks like its have rendering the code as HTML and not running it
[00:06] <Ktron> Waffle, yeah, it left it alone, it didn't run it
[00:06] <VeN0mizer> I can give you my email address if you want assistance when you install 8.04, but you will need ethernet access to download the fwcutter in the first place as it is not legal to package it with ubuntu
[00:06] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, so you recommend the ndiswrapper then? how about mad wifi?
[00:06] <bitsbam> zvacet, well i have the little clock in the upper right corner
[00:06] <Ktron> Waffle, the full source is inside the html
[00:06] <SpookyET> hi
[00:06] <Shadow_X> anyone ever have a problem with firefox not giving you a "save image as" dialog?
[00:06] <VeN0mizer> never tried madwifi :/
[00:07] <bazhang> Shadow_X: depends how the image is put into the page; can happen on occasion
[00:07] <zvacet> bitsbam : when you rught click on it do you see help option?
[00:07] <VeN0mizer> in 7.1, the bwfwcutter drivers caused COMPLETE system hangs, and in hardy beta, it causes an X server hang, and ndiswrapper has caused NO problems on either distro
[00:07] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, is there a nicely put together tut for this ?
[00:07] <Ktron> Waffle, its like apache doesn't know about .php files or the <?php ?> tag at all
[00:07] <VeN0mizer> why yes dov :)
[00:07] <VeN0mizer> one moment please
[00:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Ktron, do you have php installed?
[00:08] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer,  thanks a lo
[00:08] <Waffle> Ktron, could you paste some of the code? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[00:08] <VeN0mizer> forums are offline...let me get an offline link...
[00:08] <Aces|> Anyone have any idea why whenever I try and connect to a WEP protected wireless network Ubuntu freezes?
[00:08] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, k thanks
[00:08] <bitsbam> zvacet, no i get properties, move, remove, add new item, customize panel
[00:09] <bazhang> Aces|: using network manager or command line
[00:09] <SpookyET> I know that 8.4 is going to be released on thursday, but i'm pretty sure that the isos must be done way before that. Have they hit the mirrors yet?
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[00:09] <VeN0mizer> dovlaz ...no dice...google doesn't cache it...use these two links when they come back online http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 AND THEN http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=734003
[00:09] <bazhang> SpookyET: nay
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> they will hit the mirrors on thursday
[00:09] <Ktron> Daisuke_Ido, I do
[00:09] <Ktron> Waffle, sure
[00:09] <zvacet> bitsbam : click on applet not on panel
[00:09] <Aces|> bazhang: network manager
[00:09] <gangalee> I've hosed X, networking, and it looks like usb modules on my Breezy system while trying to upgrade/install Scribus- please help
[00:09] <bazhang> Aces|: why wep? may as well leave it open in that case
[00:09] <bitsbam> zvacet, if i click properties, i get a dialog that wants to know if i want a 24 hour clock, digital or analog and if i want to show seconds
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> gangalee, upgrade to at least feisty, breezy isn't supported
[00:09] <Ktron> Waffle, http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=d11b847c
[00:10] <bitsbam> i think i am clicking right on the clock
[00:10] <kinicker> I am getting a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock  when I try to mount a burned dvd under Ubuntu. any suggestions? i have done a lot googling, but no dice
[00:10] <Ktron> Waffle, Daisuke_Ido, and this _was_ working and no doesn't work anymore
[00:10] <bitsbam> right clicking i mean
[00:10] <VeN0mizer> did you copy that dovlaz?
[00:10] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, yup thanks a lot man
[00:10] <Aces|> bazhang: Well I live in a apartment building just needed something to stop other from freely connecting to my network
[00:10] <earthmeLon> Does anybody here have a LOT of music, and by a LOT I mean a LOT.  Banshee, Amarok.. etc just arent cutting it for me.
[00:10] <VeN0mizer> great :) And you're welcome ;)
[00:10] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, so no chance that 804's drivers will be good with this wireless card?
[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Ktron, ouch...  just wanted to make sure, check the simplest solutions first and all that
[00:10] <zvacet> bitsbam .first option above properties
[00:11] <bazhang> Aces|: that will not do it; wep is super easy to crack--best to use wpa/wpa2
[00:11] <Daisuke_Ido> dovlaz, if you have a question about hardy, ask in the hardy channel, #ubuntu+1
[00:11] <jrnircIE> hello, is this the right place to ask questions about Ubuntu?
[00:11] <VeN0mizer> I don't know for sure :/ You can give them a try, but if ubuntu acts funny or you get slow download speeds, etc...suspect them as the culprit
[00:11] <thiago_a> is there a gnome keybinding application other than the default? it's very limited :|
[00:11] <earthmeLon> jrnircIE: No, sorry.  This is a windows channel
[00:11] <geminidomino> Can anyone suggest a reason that the mysql client might be looking for the local socket at /tmp/mysql.sock despite having edited /etc/mysql/my.cnf appropriately? That's all google suggests.
[00:11] <Ktron> Daisuke_Ido, np... No, I have php5 installed, I use php5-cli every day, and yet somehow apache no longer knows about php...
[00:11] <Aces|> bazhang: I doubt where I live that is a problem, either way I just need to figure out why it is freezing at the moment
[00:11] <bitsbam> zvacet, option above properties is clock, but it is greyed out
[00:11] <VeN0mizer> this channel will be hardy heaven in 3 days right?
[00:11] <earthmeLon> jrnircIE: j/k.  Whats up?
[00:11] <VeN0mizer> lol
[00:11] <dovlaz> Daisuke_Ido, thank you but i think they are all still celebrating 420 cuz they are all alseep
[00:11] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, define a lot
[00:12] <DefineKThyne> i've got a quick question about playing DVDs on my Gutsy installation, can anyone help me out?
[00:12] <gangalee> DaisyDuke-> I'm trying to upgrade, that's how I hosed everything
[00:12] <earthmeLon> 50k, Daisuke_Ido
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, sitting at 40k, but using mysql in amarok
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> gangalee, you're trying to upgrade scribus
[00:12] <gangalee> sorry, Daisuke_ido
[00:12] <dovlaz> VeN0mizer, thanks man i'll check it out
[00:12] <zvacet> bitsbam : try with help option if you see it.I don´t know how to help you
[00:12] <gangalee> well, at this point I need X & networking back
[00:12] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido:  Foobar2000 worked perfectly under windows.  It was simple.  I dont like the interface of amarok.  The way it organizes playlists/files and such.  Maybe I should mess with it some more?
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> the version of your OS hasn't been supported for some time now.
[00:12] <VeN0mizer> you're welcome ;) Good luck...broadcom is a @$*&@$*(
[00:13] <gangalee> I've tried posting to the forums, but they're down
[00:13] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, foobar is a crutch, amarok is a whole lot better
[00:13] <dovlaz> lol yeah i should have gotten an intel card insteas :S
[00:13] <bitsbam> zvacet, thanks
[00:13] <Daisuke_Ido> gangalee, upgrade to something supported and we can help you.
[00:13] <Waffle> Ktron, I was thinking there might be an exit character or something in there, but when I try it it works fine... gives errors but it gets parsed... donno what to tell you
[00:13] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: I like your attitude
[00:13] <Ktron> Waffle, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure libapache2-mod-php5 and dpkg-reconfigure apache2 and dpk-reconfigure php5 too
[00:13] <earthmeLon> Let me try this
[00:13] <VeN0mizer> ditto :P but I was a cheap skate when I ordered this laptop....I'd trash the ati card too if I could
[00:13] <bazhang> Aces|: any way to open it up to do a test?
[00:13] <Ktron> Waffle, its something about apache2 itself, it literally doesn't know about PHP
[00:13] <Aces|> bazhang: Open what up?
[00:14] <geminidomino> Ktron: Has the module been activated?
[00:14] <Ktron> geminidomino, how would I check?
[00:14] <Elevator_Hazard> How do I install gunjin to my boot sector on my external harddrive?
[00:14] <Aces|> bazhang:  The router?
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, i apologize, it irks me when people choose to rely on windows apps as a crutch to keep from having to learn in linux (i'm not saying that's the case here, i'm saying that's the case 95% of the time)
[00:14] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: How do you set up your interface in Amarok?
[00:14] <Tonisius> how do i search for a file, and omit .svn folers and its contents
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> my interface is just standard
[00:14] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: Don't appologize, I wasn't being sarcastic ^_^
[00:14] <geminidomino> Ktron: sudo a2enmod php5
[00:14] <bazhang> Aces|: yes make the wifi hotspot open; is that possible?
[00:15] <Aces|> bazhang: Sure Ill take the protection off
[00:15] <gangalee> Daisuke-_ido-> my laptop has no cdrom, and now networking is gone, how do I upgrade?
[00:15] <Aces|> bazhang: give me a second
[00:15] <VeN0mizer> yes, give those neighbors some free karl marx wifi access ;)
[00:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i did follow the guide at amarok.kde.org that explained how to set up mysql as the backend
[00:15] <bazhang> gangalee: that version is no longer supported
[00:15] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, because at 50k tracks, sqlite is NOT going to cut it :)
[00:15] <ahmed> i neeeed help
[00:15] <gangalee> I know, like I said, I was trying to upgrade
[00:16] <ahmed> any can help me
[00:16] <tdc> what's your problem
[00:16] <gangalee> I'm trying to paste the whole story, will let you know shortly
[00:16] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: I want all my files to be organized by artist/album.  Not by playlists and this collections tab is horrible
[00:16] <Ktron> geminidomino, I did that and /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload, and still doesnt' work
[00:16] <bazhang> gangalee: can you get the gutsy iso?
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> the collection tab is actually better than you think, i have it set to organize first by artist, then album
[00:16] <bazhang> !ask | ahmed
[00:16] <geminidomino> Ktron: Odd. What was the output of the a2enmod command?
[00:16] <gangalee> I have it, but not on that machine
[00:16] <ubotu> ahmed: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:17] <gangalee> I'm tryijng to figure out how to get it social again
[00:17] <Ktron> geminidomino, Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[00:17] <earthmeLon> I dont want to use any tabs Daisuke_Ido.  I want all my music in the main area at once >_<
[00:17] <Aces|> bazhang: ok i believe its off lemme check on other comp real fast
[00:17] <matt___> is there some sort of cli contact manager? like an address book..
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> oh...
[00:17] <bazhang> Aces|: this is internal card, usb, or pcmcia card
[00:17] <Ktron> geminidomino, I even restarted apache2 after that and it still doesn't work
[00:18] <VeN0mizer> matt...like a customer manager?
[00:18] <Aces|> bazhang: internal card
[00:18] <geminidomino> Ktron: Odd...
[00:18] <VeN0mizer> and what area is kgpt in TN? :P
[00:18] <kinicker> I am trying to mount a VCD under ubuntu and it fails. It plays on the dvd player so I know the DVD isn't messed up. When I try to mount it though, I get an error msg.  in dmesg _ tail I get a DriveReady SeekComplete Error. Any ideas anyone?
[00:18] <Waffle> Ktron, I don't know what to tell you, but you might check out http://in2.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php
[00:18] <bazhang> Aces|: does ifconfig show the wlan0 entry?
[00:18] <earthmeLon> Any suggestions, Daisuke_Ido?
[00:18] <name10135> bazhang: Hey, went w/ guided, and I encountered the SAME installation error.
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> let me think on that for a second
[00:18] <DefineKThyne> i'm having issues playing DVDs in either Totem or VLC. I've installed all the necessary codecs and the Ubuntu restricted extras package, but yet they refuse to play. Any ideas?
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> banshee and rhythmbox are pretty good ones for that
[00:18] <matt___> VeN0mizer: sorta, but i was just wanting to setup a "contact database" that i could use a terminal and ssh to use.
[00:18] <bazhang> name10135: what was the error please specify
[00:19] <ahmed> ‎neeeeed help
[00:19] <Aces|> bazhang: it shows something not sure if its the right card
[00:19] <bazhang> !helpme | ahmed
[00:19] <ubotu> ahmed: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:19] <name10135> "Unable to install the selected kernel" - Kernel package: 'linux-generic'
[00:19] <matt___> VeN0mizer: so any ideas?
[00:19] <VeN0mizer> matt___ I was looking for a client manager of some sorts as well....was going to develop one, but I too wonder the same thing
[00:20] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: I need for there to be an "All Artists/Albums" Selection under Collections :P
[00:20] <ahmed> oki sorry all
[00:20] <bazhang> name10135: and that destroyed your windows partition?
[00:20] <zippytech> whats a busy box?
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, yeah, amarok uses a heirarchical structure by default
[00:20] <gangalee> OK, check the pastebin
[00:20] <ahmed> i neeeeeeeeeeed instal program
[00:20] <matt___> VeN0mizer: i found something that is pretty neat, but it doesn't work fully, simply a bash script that saves entries to a text file, pretty neat, but doesn't work...let me pastbin that...like i said though, doesn't work fully..
[00:20] <bazhang> Aces|: it shows three entries or two? if three what is the third name (just the name, dont paste whole thing here)
[00:20] <Ktron> geminidomino, I think that did work actually, I think my Firefox cache was working against me
[00:20] <ahmed> from deasktop
[00:21] <VeN0mizer> I wish I could supress part/join messages in pidgin
[00:21] <Shadow_X> anyone ever have a problem with firefox not giving you a save dialog when u try saving an image?
[00:21] <ahmed> ?
[00:21] <nexano> ahmed: an install program for what?
[00:21] <bazhang> ahmed what program
[00:21] <name10135> bazhang: Trying to boot normally into windows now....
[00:22] <Ktron> thanks geminidomino, Waffle Daisuke_Ido
[00:22] <cirkit> hi..when my Ubuntu laptop goes into suspend mode when closing the lid ... I wake it back up from suspend and I lose my sound completely. Alsamixer shows all volumes unmuted still, but no audio coming from any sources. Is this a bug?
[00:22] <geminidomino> Ktron: Oh good. Glad to hear it. Ran into the same problem myself a few weeks back
[00:22] <Aces|> bazhang: umm it shows eth0 la wlan0 and the third is wlan0 and it shows as Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:C0:A8:C1:D7:47
[00:22] <zippytech> what would would ubuntu boot to this screen? BusyBox
[00:22] <name10135> It keeps trying to loading somthing through my network adapter in what looks like DOS
[00:22] <matt___> VeN0mizer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63966/
[00:22] <name10135> bazhang: So yeah, now windows will not boot
[00:22] <matt___> VeN0mizer: perhaps that will give you ideas, or perhaps even you can figure out what is wrong with it, and fix it for us...
[00:22] <jrnircIE> I'm having a problem with autofs getting a mount map from YP
[00:22] <bazhang> Aces|: try sudo dhclient wlan0 and see if it can get a dhcp lease
[00:23] <jrnircIE> i'm using Hardy RC
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> matt__ Yes :) I'll look into it tonight after I finish some take home tests for class
[00:23] <gangalee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63965/
[00:23] <quimbasto> does anybody knows how to install the head phones driver in ubuntu 7.10?
[00:23] <bazhang> name10135: how far along in the install process for ubuntu did you get--approx how many minutes
[00:23] <jrnircIE> and my YP server is RHEL4
[00:23] <OlMightyGreek> hi. ive installed a new umts/gprs card on my laptop. ive got a connection but i thing there is a problem with the dns settings. i cant view any internetpages. what can i do?
[00:23] <bazhang> quimbasto: dont need those--should work when plugged in
[00:24] <amokk> hello
[00:24] <VeN0mizer> mightygreek can you set a DNS address manually?
[00:24] <name10135> bazhang: It wasn't able to install the base system.  Probably a minute or so.  This is a Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz system
[00:24] <Waffle> ahmed, what program are you trying to install?
[00:24] <OlMightyGreek> yes. i did but it did not work either
[00:24] <matt___> VeN0mizer: alright....if you "FIGURE OUT" anything...go to linuxhack3r.com and contact me (my site)...
[00:24] <VeN0mizer> will do matt__ ;)
[00:24]  * Pelo is this close  ->|   |<-  
[00:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Pelo, to?
[00:25] <bazhang> haha
[00:25] <Aces|> bazhang: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[00:25] <VeN0mizer> matt, database down?
[00:25] <bazhang> Aces|: this is gutsy or hardy
[00:25] <Pelo> Daisuke_Ido, getting my trackball to   click "scroll on" click "scroll off"  ,  right now I need to hold the button down
[00:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[00:25] <hell-jack> hey
[00:25] <Pelo> matt___,   hey , did you get a change to try progecad ?
[00:26] <hell-jack> i have hp deskjet 5740
[00:26] <matt___> VeN0mizer: hmmm...very interesting...it was working this morning...don't know what would cause that..unless i am having a spike of traffic that i don't know where is coming from..
[00:26] <Aces|> bazhang: gusty
[00:26] <matt___> Pelo: i did...however something weird went on...
[00:26] <hell-jack> how can i recognize this to system
[00:26] <bazhang> name10135: and you checked the md5sum for that iso?
[00:26] <matt___> Pelo: it LOOKs very promising...however it wouldn't exactly work in wine...and i don't know why...
[00:26] <VeN0mizer> I break everything I touch hahaha...broke a bike, a digital cable box, and a plasma TV in one day by trying to use them...could be that :-D
[00:27] <VeN0mizer> I'm like the crappy version of king midas.....poor database :(
[00:27] <name10135> bazhang: I have 0 experience w/ linux.  You would have to tell me how to check that md5sum.
[00:27] <bazhang> Aces|: this is what card in your machine (lscpi should give a name like broadcom, atheros, etc)
[00:27] <matt___> VeN0mizer: lol...i hope not...
[00:27] <NecWeston> having a problem with KVM in 8.04.........it doesn't work. Using the virtual manager to create an xp machine, boots from xp iso, installs ok, until it gets to the first restart, error: a disk read error occurred press ctrl+alt+del to restart. Can't find anything online related to this and ubuntu.......what am I doing wrong??
[00:27] <Pelo> matt___, ??  I did have trouble installing it the first time around , I had to "rip" it out  (hdd and regedit) and reinstall it , worked fine after that
[00:27] <bazhang> name10135: the live cd boots okay; or were you in the alternate cd
[00:27] <matt___> Pelo: perhaps that is it, it starts ok, but it doesn't work. it freezes...
[00:27] <Pelo> matt___, if you donT have anything else installed in wine , just delete the ~/.wine  folder and start again
[00:28] <cirkit> Why does Ubuntu have so many problems as oppose to other distros?
[00:28] <cirkit> All my video is blue colored
[00:28] <Pelo> matt___, might also be a memory issue,   CAD softare aren't light , how much RAM do you have ?
[00:28] <bazhang> cirkit you have a question or just spreading disinfo
[00:28] <geminidomino> cirkit: Sounds like a codec issue
[00:28] <matt___> Pelo: did so many times...same everytime...think i may need to recompile wine...not sure though..perhaps i'll just use the repos
[00:28] <cirkit> a blueish tint on all video I play
[00:28] <cirkit> no matter what application
[00:28] <Auctionedllama> hi
[00:28] <VeN0mizer> ubuntu is the ONLY distro that works out of the box for my laptop
[00:28] <Auctionedllama> my GRUB is now officially.. FUBAR, and I am trying to edit the menu.lst and fstab to get it functional.. I have the right UUID, but I am not sure where to put it.. Can I just pastbin both of the files and you guys tell me where to edit? Thanks
[00:28] <Pelo> cirkit, it doesn'T just more ppl use it so more problems come to light
[00:28] <MiYaRSTiM> it looks like ubuntu has more problems because more windows users try it first
[00:29] <matt___> VeN0mizer: working now..
[00:29] <cirkit> lol MiYaRSTiM
[00:29] <bazhang> MiYaRSTiM: +5
[00:29] <stvn_> same Ven0mizer
[00:29] <cirkit> Arch Linux works flawlessly
[00:29] <Pelo> matt___, yes , compiling wine can be tricky , get the deb package from winehq.org
[00:29] <cirkit> I just put ubuntu on my new laptop
[00:29] <cirkit> heh
[00:29] <yabuk> I've downloaded  many files omg, but the vlc only is playing a soud (and they are videos of Dr. House) and totem do nothing, how to fix it?
[00:29] <node357> cirkit, arch linux won't even boot for me :P
[00:29] <name10135> bazhang:  As I said earlier, I *have* to use the alt-CD because the laptop I'm attempting to install onto is only weeks old, and the graphics drivers do not work w/ LiveCD, the installer stalls after informing that it has to continue in low-graphics mode.
[00:29] <matt___> Pelo: i'll probably try that..
[00:29] <J-Unit> u press print screen for screenshot of everything but to screenshot just one window, wats the key combo?
[00:29] <cirkit> node357: LOL
[00:29] <yabuk> *files ogm
[00:29] <Aces|> bazhang:  ifconfig doesnt really show a name for wlan0
[00:29] <geminidomino> Can anyone suggest a reason that the mysql client might be looking for the local socket at /tmp/mysql.sock despite having edited /etc/mysql/my.cnf appropriately? That's all google suggests.
[00:29] <VeN0mizer> cirkit...which distro? 8 RC1?
[00:29] <Pelo> cirkit, well there you go , you needed to put it on an old laptop that's been properly broken in , haven't you heard , linux is good on old hardware
[00:30] <bazhang> Aces|: that would be lspci not ifconfig
[00:30] <_marx_> cirkit: i've had ubuntu on my '03 laptop since '05
[00:30] <cirkit> VeN0mizer: yup RC1
[00:30] <Pelo> geminidomino, I'm sure there is a mysql channel
[00:30] <JohnMM> !hardy
[00:30] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:30] <amokk> ¿is it dangerous in windows to hide a linux file or folder located in a ntfs partition? regards
[00:30] <VeN0mizer> my laptop is an '06 and it runs great......what brand is your video card cirkit?
[00:30] <ahmed> any egyption here ana 3aiz mos3da
[00:30] <geminidomino> Pelo: Yeah, but haven't gotten a respnse there.
[00:30] <J-Unit> how do u screenshot just one screen?
[00:30] <gogeta> amokk ?\
[00:31] <geminidomino> figured you guys might know
[00:31] <bazhang> amokk: ask in ##windows thanks
[00:31] <_Net> Hello. Need some help; I installed skype on my ubuntu and I have a usb camera that has a microphone
[00:31] <gogeta> amokk no it should be its like running from a .zip
[00:31] <cirkit> VeN0mizer: nvidia geforce 8600
[00:31] <gogeta>  shouldent
[00:31] <cirkit> 256MB
[00:31] <Aces|> bazhang:  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20) sorry about that little new at this
[00:31] <_Net> When I use it says Problem with audio playback
[00:31] <_Net> any idea how I can fix this?
[00:31] <amokk> ok thanks gogeta
[00:31] <flexxall> anyone have any idea on how i can remap the way pulseaudio sends signals to my speakers
[00:31] <gogeta> amokk i have never heard of such installs trashing the system
[00:31] <Pelo> amokk, windows will not recognise the . before the folder name and might not want to read it , and I donT' think linux will recognise the hidden tag from windows but it will read it
[00:32] <VeN0mizer> cirkit have you tried using Envy?
[00:32] <matt___> so i have me a .py file...how can i run it? python, right?
[00:32] <cirkit> envy?
[00:32] <cirkit> no
[00:32] <Starnestommy> !envy | VeN0mizer and cirkit
[00:32] <ubotu> VeN0mizer and cirkit: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:32] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: Sorry, I was afk.  did you have any suggestions bro?
[00:32] <Pelo> _Net, do your camera and mic work ouside of skype ?
[00:32] <VeN0mizer> cirkit http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:32] <_Net> Yes.
[00:32] <_Net> I used them on my windows partition all the time
[00:32] <VeN0mizer> thanks starn ;) but it beats a blue screen now doesn't it?
[00:32] <earthmeLon> Envy is awesome.  I highly suggest you use it, but revert your xorg.conf back to Ubuntu default before doing so to get the best results
[00:33] <Pelo> _Net, I mean do they work in ubuntu ?
[00:33] <Daisuke_Ido> nooooo
[00:33] <Starnestommy> VeN0mizer: not when it screws up your computer
[00:33] <bazhang> Aces|: okay; well your machine can see the card, so just need to associate the card with the AP and it should work--you used the cli (command line) before right?
[00:33] <gogeta> :P
[00:33] <_Net> How can I test that
[00:33] <gogeta> :P
[00:33] <Daisuke_Ido> envy is neither recommended nor supported here
[00:33] <Pelo> !webcam | _Net
[00:33] <ubotu> _Net: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:33] <Pelo> Daisuke_Ido, envy is a sin
[00:33] <Daisuke_Ido> but anywho
[00:33] <Aces|> bazhang: yes
[00:33] <gogeta> envy = dead install
[00:33] <Daisuke_Ido> earthmeLon, have you taken a look at songbird?
[00:33] <amokk> i want to mount /home in a shared ntfs partition between ubuntu and windows vista
[00:33] <_Net> Thank you
[00:33] <fr05tbyt3> could anybody tell me where the repositories file is located
[00:34] <gangalee> what's a way to probe for hardware modules?
[00:34] <VeN0mizer> starnestommy when it screws up your computer.....now how would it cause damage to your computer? does it break some piece of hardware?
[00:34] <Starnestommy> fr05tbyt3: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:34] <Daisuke_Ido> envy = we get to laugh at you.  mercilessly.
[00:34] <fr05tbyt3> im trying to install fluxbox on my debian box
[00:34] <gogeta> if you realy wanna install a newer driver look at guilds on how to do it manuly
[00:34] <fr05tbyt3> thank you
[00:34] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: No.  Let me try that out
[00:34] <bazhang> Aces|: hang on a second let me get you a link
[00:34] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3, you need to edit ? use the gui one   menu > system < admin > software sources  safer
[00:34] <Aces|> bazhang: Ok
[00:34] <VeN0mizer> and technically, ubuntu uses the same binary drivers, but calls them "restriced"...how is that more safe?
[00:34] <Pelo> gangalee,  do you mean lsmod ?
[00:34] <fr05tbyt3> i dont have X installed yet :(
[00:34] <Starnestommy> VeN0mizer: I was unable to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 and I couldn't boot once after a kernel update
[00:35] <zero-coo1> how can i having web cam on ubuntu
[00:35] <gogeta> VeN0mizer its built and tested for your ubuntu version
[00:35] <VeN0mizer> did you follow the directions that clearly state to remove envy before a distro updrade?
[00:35] <fr05tbyt3> im trying to just put fluxbox on here cause im poor and i have a small HDD
[00:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Aces| the forums are down for a bit but this is the comprehensive cli how to--let me look for a nother link in the meantime
[00:35] <zero-coo1> i dont know
[00:35] <Pelo> !webcam > zero-coo1 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[00:35] <Aces|> bazhang: No worries No hurry Thanks for the help so far
[00:35]  * Pelo skills are wasted,  all he does is trigger the bot 
[00:36] <zero-coo1> what i must make
[00:36] <_Net> Pelo: Okay, my camera of the webcam doesn't work but the Microphone of it should work
[00:36] <gogeta> Pelo go play with cat /dev.hda1
[00:36] <_Net> I just tested it on a laptop, the mic should work
[00:36] <gogeta> lol
[00:36] <bazhang> Pelo: not so!
[00:36] <Frederick> folks why would I be unable to use firefox to navigate? I have no proxy setted and still no conection thou konqueror operates perfectly
[00:36] <zero-coo1> my microfone work but camera
[00:36] <kinicker> I am trying to mount a VCD under ubuntu and it fails. It plays on the dvd player so I know the DVD isn't messed up. When I try to mount it though, I get an error msg.  in dmesg _ tail I get a DriveReady SeekComplete Error. Any ideas anyone?
[00:36] <name10135> bazhang: Well thankyou.  Now I have to wait another 3 hours to reinstall windows on my notebook.  It's experiences like these that really inspire me to continue to attempt to use linux.  Good-bye.
[00:36] <Pelo> !sound > _Net  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu , start here mic stuf should be in there as well
[00:37] <bazhang> name101 oh he left
[00:37] <floating> no one here happen to use af901x dvb-t dongle ?
[00:37] <VeN0mizer> what was his deal?
[00:37] <bazhang> 3 hours?
[00:37] <fr05tbyt3> YAY fluxbox
[00:37] <bazhang> ubuntu install takes like 20 minutes
[00:37] <VeN0mizer> when he said he's going back to windows...he pretty much said he was commiting suicide *gasp*
[00:37] <gangalee> LSMOD shows the existing loaded modules, but I want to probe for unknown hardware
[00:37] <fr05tbyt3> thanks Starnestommy
[00:37] <gangalee> actually the hardware is known
[00:37] <Pelo> !webcam | zero-coo1 read this
[00:37] <ubotu> zero-coo1 read this: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:38] <Ktron> The only reason I don't run fluxbox is that fluxbox (last I used it) was more work to setup than I felt I got back in performance over XFC
[00:38] <Ktron> *XFCE
[00:38] <fr05tbyt3> im poor
[00:38] <Ktron> and now XFCE (Xubuntu) rules my world
[00:38] <fr05tbyt3> i have a 400MHZ pentium
[00:38] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3, join the club
[00:38] <fr05tbyt3> lol
[00:38] <zero-coo1> tnk i writeng udevmonitor
[00:38]  * Pelo isnT' that poor
[00:38] <floating> i tried fluxbuntu for a bit and then installed xubuntu back :)
[00:38] <gogeta> Ktron preformance linux = dsl/puppy
[00:38] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3, puppy linux is for you
[00:38] <fr05tbyt3> its a celeron actually
[00:38] <bazhang> Ktron: you might consider the fluxbuntu distro (not fluxbox on top of ubuntu); it is nicely preconfigured ootb
[00:38] <zero-coo1> putting camera
[00:38] <fr05tbyt3> im running debian 4
[00:39] <ceil420> what's the apt command to show a package description?
[00:39] <zero-coo1> and i don't have module
[00:39] <flexxall> can someone tell me how to chenge the speaker routing ? seems like the volumn controll in pulseaudi and alsa are controlling the wrong speakers
[00:39] <ceil420> it ain't showpkg like i thought :x
[00:39]  * Ktron thinsk about his P4 workstation, is 2.5 GHz P4 laptop, and his Q660 Core 2 Duo Quad home computer...
[00:39] <fr05tbyt3> ive never experimented with others
[00:39] <Starnestommy> ceil420: aptitude show package
[00:39] <ceil420> Starnestommy, cheers o/
[00:39] <Pelo> ceil420,   man apt  will give you details of comand
[00:39] <ceil420> (i was close)
[00:39] <J-Unit> there is no core 2 duo quad q6600, its called core 2 quad q6600
[00:39] <J-Unit> anyway..
[00:39] <gogeta> fr05tbyt3 well you can install ubuntu with the alt cd
[00:40] <gogeta> fr05tbyt3 but its probly not gonna be very fast
[00:40] <ceil420> Pelo, apt's man page sucks
[00:40]  * ceil420 wonders if apt-cache's is better
[00:40] <Ktron> fr05tbyt3, this is a celeron... a 2.66 Ghz celeron
[00:40] <ceil420> $ man apt-cache | wc -l
[00:40] <ceil420> 310
[00:40] <Pelo> ceil420, all manpage suck  they are for real man ,  specialy made to teach them how to cry
[00:40] <ceil420> faster to ask here, but i'll keep it in mind for next time :)
[00:40] <fr05tbyt3> lol
[00:40] <ceil420> lol
[00:40] <earthmeLon> Daisuke_Ido: Songbird seems really big.  I'm still going to try it out though :D.  Importing my files now ^_^
[00:40] <fr05tbyt3> im not sure what this is off the top of my head
[00:40] <bazhang> icesword: you around? how to input pinyin in firefox--via skim or other
[00:41] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, which program should I use to manage my passwords (firefox) and put them on an USB Stick ?
[00:41] <Ktron> Songbird is an excellent concept, last time I tried it they hadn't convinced me they were finished enough yet though
[00:41] <Ktron> AutoMatriX, Perl
[00:41] <gogeta> fr05tbyt3 dsl puppy and deli are talerd to a slow pc
[00:41] <Ktron> AutoMatriX, sorry, perl
[00:41]  * Pelo didn'T even know taht you could do what AutoMatriX suggest
[00:41] <VeN0mizer> so...for the newb....xubuntu is the best ubuntu distro for old computers?
[00:41] <gangalee> AutoMatiX-> PortableApps
[00:41] <gogeta> fr05tbyt3 as slow as a 486/33
[00:41] <AutoMatriX> Ktron, tx, anything more user friendly ?
[00:41] <fr05tbyt3> yeah ill probably try it
[00:41] <ceil420> Pelo, i know it's possible, but i don't know the particulars
[00:42] <ceil420> i've seen people talk about it before
[00:42] <fr05tbyt3> im only going to be using this thing to read PDF
[00:42] <AutoMatriX> gangalee, thanks :=
[00:42] <Ktron> AutoMatriX, yeah, I'd go to portableapps.com and see what they have, there's a lot there
[00:42] <gangalee> how can I load modules for a TX Insturments ACX100 NIC?
[00:42] <earthmeLon> VeN0mizer: Xubuntu uses a lightweight gui among other things, so yeah
[00:42] <icesword> bazhang, no exactly know skim is, i use fcitx, or scim, ctrl+space to activate ime, then you can type, i think so
[00:42] <Pelo> VeN0mizer,   xubuntu is somewhat lighter and will work better on older comps with low cpu and mem then ubuntu
[00:42] <bazhang> gangalee: they are ootb in supported versions
[00:42] <ceil420> did Canonical ever release a fluxbuntu?
[00:42] <gogeta> VeN0mizer same list i just said those work fast on slow pcs
[00:42] <VeN0mizer> earth,Pelo thanks ;) I have an old 350mhz P2 I have in mind for it :)
[00:42] <fr05tbyt3> and i like the way xpdf kicks ass
[00:42] <ceil420> (i prefer xfce to fluxbox, but still)
[00:42] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, how muich memory ?
[00:42] <bazhang> icesword: fcitx is in repos?
[00:42] <gangalee> bazhang- it used to work in mine before I hosed it
[00:42] <VeN0mizer> 256 I think?
[00:43] <matt___> VeN0mizer: sudo apt-get install abook : somewhat cool...perhaps it is customizable
[00:43] <ceil420> ((e16 is better than both, though :p))
[00:43] <icesword> bazhang, sure
[00:43] <icesword> !info fcitx
[00:43] <ubotu> fcitx (source: fcitx): Free Chinese Input Toy for X (XIM). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.4.3-1 (gutsy), package size 3211 kB, installed size 7736 kB
[00:43] <bazhang> thanks much icesword
[00:43] <fr05tbyt3> gogeta not sure
[00:43] <VeN0mizer> matt__ will do ;)
[00:43] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, ok  cause my aunt tried it with 64 meg ram and taht was way too low
[00:43] <VeN0mizer> ruh roh
[00:43] <fr05tbyt3> asdf
[00:43] <earthmeLon> VeN0mizer: For ultimate performance, install the server edition of ubuntu :P
[00:43] <riddlebox> hrmm just tried to install hardy and grub wouldnt install, I had to install lilo?
[00:43] <zero-coo1> have anbody from Croatia
[00:43] <matt___> VeN0mizer: it seems like it may be good enough for some things...but i want to be able to edit tables and stuff..i think i need to learn about sql
[00:44] <bazhang> riddlebox: that is your question?
[00:44] <Elevator_Hazard> How can I install a bootloader in my boot sector/boot partition on external harddrive?
[00:44] <VeN0mizer> what are the "under the hood" things that make server better?
[00:44] <VeN0mizer> server edition**
[00:44] <Pelo> riddlebox, you could try with the supergrub cd,   google for it
[00:44] <holycow> hey guys
[00:44] <magicrobotmonkey> any on hardy have problems with firefox crashing on google.com/ig ?
[00:44] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 as long as you have 8mb of ram all 3 of the oses i said will run with a gui
[00:44] <gogeta> lol
[00:44] <riddlebox> bazhang, I am really wondering why grub wouldnt install and lilo would
[00:44] <earthmeLon> VeN0mizer: It doesnt use gui lol
[00:44] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 less then 8mb they still run just text only
[00:44] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, server edition is just a differnet set of packages on install
[00:44] <gangalee> bahzhang- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63965/
[00:44] <fr05tbyt3> i have 256
[00:44] <VeN0mizer> magic, not me, works fine ;)
[00:44] <bazhang> riddlebox: the installer has an advanced option where you can choose lilo iirc
[00:44] <fr05tbyt3> the most the mobo will handle
[00:44] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3,  you should be good
[00:44] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 then they will run quicly
[00:44] <holycow> is there a way to run time service checks such that its not checking at boot?
[00:45] <magicrobotmonkey> VeN0mizer: maybe its just one of my widgets then
[00:45] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 alot faster then ubuntu
[00:45] <VeN0mizer> no gui...well I guess that would run fast huh ;)
[00:45] <riddlebox> bazhang, I know thats what I had do to
[00:45] <holycow> ive had that freeze boxes forever when the network is down
[00:45] <bazhang> gangalee: what am I looking for
[00:45] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3,   300mhz with 256 meg ram , that must have been a sweet machine in the day
[00:45] <gogeta>  VeN0mizer i said as long as thers 8mb of ram you can go gui
[00:45] <gangalee> it's my situation explained
[00:45] <fr05tbyt3> it had 64
[00:45] <fr05tbyt3> i upgraded it
[00:45] <fr05tbyt3> pc100
[00:45] <bazhang> on Breezy gangalee?
[00:45] <ceil420> VeN0mizer, you can still apt-get [kx]ubuntu-desktop :p
[00:46] <fr05tbyt3> it was nice for its day though
[00:46] <gangalee> it's not as simple as "install another OS, or upgrade..." the needed files are there, just whacked somehow
[00:46] <fr05tbyt3> had windows 98 when i got ahold of it
[00:46] <gangalee> bahzhang- yes, somewhat
[00:46] <gangalee> I don't want to hold on to Breezy, I'm trying to upgrade
[00:46] <gogeta> c fr05tbyt3 well i used puppy and dsl both are pretty simple
[00:46] <gangalee> but w/o networking or usb-storage...
[00:46] <bazhang> gangalee: what machine do you have, cpu ram, vid card etc
[00:46] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 i like puppy for a live cd being you can save back to rws and remaster it
[00:46] <VeN0mizer> wish there was a way to hook a desktop computer up to a laptops LCD :P
[00:47] <fr05tbyt3> 433mhz
[00:47] <fr05tbyt3> 33mhz clock
[00:47] <gangalee> Dell Latitude CSx500, P2, 192 mbRAM
[00:47] <gangalee> NeoMagic video card
[00:47] <fr05tbyt3> gogeta sounds good
[00:47] <Pelo> gangalee, you won'T bee able to upgrade from breeze without going through all the interveening release,  my suggestion wait 3 days,   dl hardy ,  copy your /home to a seperate aprtiton and install hardy
[00:47] <b4l74z4r> rhythmbox should have a more colorful quick launch icon, the current one almost disappears alongside the other icons
[00:47] <bazhang> with 192MB of ram? hardy will run that?
[00:47] <Pelo> b4l74z4r, it is a little bland isn't it
[00:48] <Pelo> bazhang, I think the min is 128
[00:48] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 yea get the cw fukll being it mulyisessions just earse it keep resusing lol
[00:48] <bazhang> Pelo: okay cheers
[00:48] <fr05tbyt3> right
[00:48] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 you can burn the os back to disk wile still running it
[00:48] <fr05tbyt3> yay x
[00:48] <Elevator_Hazard> Does anyone here use gujin?
[00:48] <fr05tbyt3> live linux
[00:48] <gogeta>  fr05tbyt3 or just install it
[00:48] <icesword> gujin
[00:48] <fr05tbyt3> thats sweet
[00:48]  * Pelo wonders if gogeta will type better with broken fingers 
[00:48] <gangalee> actually, 386MB
[00:48] <icesword> what is it
[00:49] <MiYaRSTiM> according to owner of local computer place, he told me today that linux needs a min of 1 gig ram or it dont work right
[00:49] <gangalee> haha
[00:49] <gogeta> Pelo ssh rm ./
[00:49] <bazhang> MiYaRSTiM: just a myth
[00:49] <fr05tbyt3> thats funny
[00:49] <MiYaRSTiM> thats a bloke that installs vista for a living
[00:49] <gogeta> :P
[00:49] <Elevator_Hazard> icesword: bootloader -- I need to figure out how to install it
[00:49] <Pelo> MiYaRSTiM, that's for vista
[00:49] <bazhang> vista needs 4gb
[00:49] <fr05tbyt3> the base system will run on anything corrent
[00:49] <icesword> MiYaRSTiM, tell him to shut up
[00:49] <MiYaRSTiM> i didnt even bother :P
[00:49] <Asmundr> i've run linux on 8mb of ram
[00:49] <jrnircIE> *has anyone experience problems with autofs getting a mount map from YP in Hardy??*
[00:49] <icesword> lol
[00:49] <fr05tbyt3> thats gansta
[00:50] <icesword> Asmundr, what is it，，，hahaha
[00:50] <Pelo> jrnircIE, that's a quewsiton of #ubuntu+1
[00:50] <Elevator_Hazard> icesword: do you know in general how I should install a bootloader?
[00:50] <icesword> sorry, let me ask ubotu
[00:50] <gogeta> Asmundr you can run it on less then 8mb and even 0mb just text
[00:50] <Pelo> anyone know how to get smooth wheel scrolling in firefox ?
[00:50] <gogeta> Asmundr thers a no memery controler kernel out there
[00:50] <icesword> !gujin
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gujin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:51] <Pelo> icesword,   !info package
[00:51] <icesword> no, there is not such a package
[00:51] <Elevator_Hazard> Its not a package on ubuntu unless ubuntu has bootloader packages other than grub
[00:51] <VeN0mizer> Pelo:  Edit->Preferences->Advanced->General tab
[00:51] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, for scrollilng in FF ?
[00:51] <VeN0mizer> mhmm
[00:52] <VeN0mizer> smooth scrolling option is in there :P
[00:52] <gangalee> does anyone know the CL for "New Login" & "New Login in a Window"
[00:52] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, not in FF3b5 in anycase
[00:53] <VeN0mizer> Pelo Strange, I'm using 3b5 and looking at the checkbox myself
[00:53] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, in advance
[00:53] <Frederick> folks does none has the link for how to setup java and flash in firefox?
[00:54] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, I'll do with the choppy scroolling I think   , smooth scrolling makes xorg go nuts
[00:54] <gogeta> !flash
[00:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:54] <Some_Person> Is there a vDrift repository?
[00:54] <bazhang> Elevator_Hazard: our lifeline, ubuntuforums is offline atm; wait a bit and there is thread on that
[00:54] <VeN0mizer> Pelo: Using COmpiz?
[00:54] <VeN0mizer> Compiz**
[00:54] <Elevator_Hazard> bazhang: lol yea I saw that a while ago but... still not up :(
[00:54] <gogeta> Pelo i beat you that time :P
[00:54] <fr05tbyt3> theres a terminal that starts with a "t" i wanna say tesla but thats not right
[00:54] <Pelo> VeN0mizer, nope, not even metacity compositing
[00:54] <fr05tbyt3> i think its a girls name maybe
[00:54] <VeN0mizer> interesting :P
[00:54] <Pelo> gogeta, beat me to waht ?
[00:55] <gogeta> the bot
[00:55] <Pelo> oh
[00:55] <VeN0mizer> Compiz + ATI = hell for smooth scrolling in FF for me
[00:55] <fr05tbyt3> anyway you can set a hotkey to have it fade in and stuf
[00:55] <Pelo> gogeta, it's not a competition,  not when I'm loosing anyway
[00:55] <PriceChild> Elevator_Hazard: we're going as fast as we can, it will be back within a couple of hours. There is a lot of work going into it by some hard working, unpaid people :)
[00:55] <sYn_0n3> hey room...i need some help..i installed enlightenment e17 via cvs and synaptic but everything i go to do the usual synaptic updates i get an error statingthat a package was interrupted and to do dpkg -a configure...i do..but connecting to the cvs server just times out and never completes..how can i bypass this or update this..please help
[00:55] <gogeta> >:o
[00:55] <bazhang> thank you PriceChild
[00:55] <Pelo> VeN0mizer,  intel 856g , and Trackman Marble FX ,  not much better
[00:55] <Elevator_Hazard> PriceChild oh you know what's going on? I'm curious as to what they are doing.
[00:56] <PriceChild> Elevator_Hazard: #ubuntuforums
[00:56] <linkmaster03> Is there a way to search for packages through apt-get instead of using the Synaptic GUI?
[00:56] <VeN0mizer> lol Pelo
[00:56] <PriceChild> linkmaster03: apt-cache search
[00:56] <PhilcoBill> I am running DC++ on my Ubuntu box, but can not get it to run in active mode.  any suggestions?
[00:56] <bazhang> apt-cache search linkmaster03
[00:56] <VeN0mizer> using wine Philco?
[00:56] <VeN0mizer> or virtualbox?
[00:56] <fr05tbyt3> tilda
[00:56] <gogeta> see hes trying to kick me into troll mode :'(
[00:56] <fr05tbyt3> tilda tilda
[00:57] <gogeta> darn eveil ops
[00:57] <Zelta> !spam | fr05tbyt3
[00:57] <ubotu> fr05tbyt3: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[00:57] <kindofabuzz> Boooooooooom!
[00:57] <VeN0mizer> PhilcoBill: Wine or Virtualbox for dc++?
[00:57] <sYn_0n3> hey room...i need some help..i installed enlightenment e17 via cvs and synaptic but everything i go to do the usual synaptic updates i get an error statingthat a package was interrupted and to do dpkg -a configure...i do..but connecting to the cvs server just times out and never completes..how can i bypass this or update this..please help
[00:57] <fr05tbyt3> wait what
[00:57] <linkmaster03> PriceChild bazhang Thank you
[00:57] <PhilcoBill> IT is a native DC++ for linux
[00:57] <fr05tbyt3> im lost here
[00:57] <fr05tbyt3> im spamming
[00:58] <fr05tbyt3> im not selling anything here
[00:58] <Some_Person> !spam > fr05tbyt3
[00:58] <kindofabuzz> Boooooooooom!
[00:58] <PhilcoBill> I need to open up the ports some how
[00:58] <bazhang> fr05tbyt3: relax
[00:58] <shigutso> hi, can somebody help me? how can I convert a .MDS file to .ISO? It's not a normal .MDS, because it came with some .i00, .i01, .i01, etc. These files where created when I used a windows program to create a backup of my dvd...
[00:58] <VeN0mizer> *scratches head* never heard of a native linux version...I needs this! :)...I assume you have done all the proper router configuration, etc?
[00:58] <fr05tbyt3> im new to IRC im sorry
[00:58] <danbhfive> !ot | fr05tbyt3 here, read this message
[00:58] <ubotu> fr05tbyt3 here, read this message: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:58] <VeN0mizer> as I doubt the linux version supports UPNP
[00:58] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3, this is a support channel  please keep the off topic stuff to a minimun or make it very funny
[00:58] <Zelta> Guys, enough grilling fr05tbyt3, I think he got the message the first time
[00:58] <fr05tbyt3> right ;)
[00:58] <floating> ubuntu is your friend
[00:58] <sYn_0n3> hey room...i need some help..i installed enlightenment e17 via cvs and synaptic but everything i go to do the usual synaptic updates i get an error statingthat a package was interrupted and to do dpkg -a configure...i do..but connecting to the cvs server just times out and never completes..how can i bypass this or update this..please help
[00:59] <AndrewB> Guys, please stop with the !foo to fr05tbyt3 and actually help him.
[00:59] <Pelo> akuna matatah
[00:59] <Zelta> fr05tbyt3: Ask your question
[00:59] <fr05tbyt3> im all set thanks for all the help much appreciated
[00:59] <fr05tbyt3> im just gonna idle if thats ok
[00:59] <sYn_0n3> i just copied and pasted my question 3 times and no one even acknowledged me
[00:59] <sYn_0n3> hmpf
[00:59] <fr05tbyt3> ill keep my mouth shut
[00:59] <Zelta> It's OK.
[00:59] <PhilcoBill> There is an option to override updp (or it looks like)
[00:59] <Pelo> fr05tbyt3, no loitering
[00:59] <fr05tbyt3> im out
[01:00] <v-x-vendetta> Helloooooo!
[01:00] <gangalee> to hard, like my question
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> sYn_0n3, that's probably because consistent repeating is frowned upon
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> gangalee, your question wouldn't even be a question if you'd upgraded a year ago when breezy EOLed
[01:00] <sYn_0n3> so what am i supposed to do...ask once if no help then
[01:00] <sYn_0n3> just leave..lol
[01:00] <sYn_0n3> i asked for a reason
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience | sYn_0n3
[01:00] <ubotu> sYn_0n3: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:00] <sYn_0n3> i got you
[01:01] <danbhfive> sYn_0n3: have you tried the default repositories?
[01:01] <icesword> sYn_0n3, reinstall, lol
[01:01] <Pelo> sYn_0n3, this is a channel for the support of the current release of ubuntu ,  you might not get ppl who know about cvs of third party apps,  try finding an enlightenemetn chanel
[01:01] <VeN0mizer> sYn_0n3: has google yielded anything for enlightenment cvs timeout?
[01:01] <arkanes> can anyone suggest a content filtering proxy? I'm trying to at least somewhat child-safe the internet on my kids box
[01:01] <bazhang> sYn_0n3: you asked a question that many folks do not have an answer to, and as ubuntuforums is offline we can not look into easily atm
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> not saying ask and leave, but kinda hang out, and wait more than 1-2 minutes between asking
[01:01] <Starnestommy> arkanes: dansguardian?
[01:01] <sYn_0n3> thanks guys!!!!
[01:02] <sYn_0n3> i googled the error but to no avail
[01:02] <bazhang> arkanes: also firefox has a plugin
[01:02] <gangalee> if...
[01:02] <VeN0mizer> arkanes: I believe opendns.org has some form of filtering available?
[01:02] <arkanes> Starnestommy: looks suitable, thanks
[01:02] <zeeeee> hi, does anybody know why bug #93885 isn't being addressed?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> sYn_0n3, apt-get does not use cvs, did you grab the sources from cvs or are you using apt-get? ( note, some people make packages *from* the latest cvs snapshots, but you shouldn't be using it yourself )
[01:02] <AndrewB> !bug #93885
[01:02] <VeN0mizer> zeeeee: depends on what bug#93885 is
[01:02] <arkanes> VeN0mizer: I wanted something local that I had a little more control over, opendns was my fallback
[01:02] <Pelo> zeeeee, do you think we now bugs by their numbers ?
[01:03] <AndrewB> gah silly bot
[01:03] <sYn_0n3> jordan u...i used apt-get
[01:03] <bazhang> ubotu lag
[01:03] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[01:03] <VeN0mizer> arkanes: there are several "Christian" ISP proxies available...but I'm not sure if they can barter with you if you have HSI :/
[01:03] <sYn_0n3> jordan u..i added the cvs repositoriy to my sources.lst
[01:03] <Pelo> zeeeee, what's the bug in question about , briefly
[01:03] <sYn_0n3> and installed via apt
[01:03] <Jordan_U> sYn_0n3, Can you please pastebin the exact output from "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[01:04] <sYn_0n3> u got it
[01:04] <AndrewB> arkanes: it says there is a fix released
[01:04] <AndrewB> oh
[01:04] <flexxall> Trying to get my speaker re routed any ideas how to do that ?
[01:05] <AndrewB> arkanes: to do with rhino?
[01:05]  * Pelo still wonders how he could get  one click "scroll on" one click "scroll off" for his trackball 
[01:05] <cirkit_> When I boot up my computer, instead of seeing the Ubuntu loading screen, I see output that says "splashy" was not found
[01:05] <Pelo> flexxall, resouted how ? wrong card or speakers the wrong way around ?
[01:06] <Pelo> cirkit_, not installed probabaly, look for splash in synaptic
[01:06] <cirkit_> Pelo: ok
[01:06] <shigutso> hi, can somebody help me? how can I convert a .MDS file to .ISO? It's not a normal .MDS, because it came with some .i00, .i01, .i01, etc. These files where created when I used a windows program to create a backup of my dvd... mdf2iso didn't work, because it says it's not a valid image
[01:06] <Pelo> cirkit_, or look on www.gnome-look.org there are some nice ones there
[01:06] <flexxall> Speakers are the wrong way around
[01:06] <VeN0mizer> shigutso: burn mds to cd, make iso from cd ;)
[01:07] <flexxall> they all work but volumn controll is not correct per channel
[01:07] <cirkit_> Pelo: are these the splashes right when ubuntu boots (by default it was an orange splash during install)
[01:07] <Pelo> shigutso, you probabaly need to extract it first,  pick a random file and right click extracct see if that does anything
[01:07] <shigutso> VeN0mizer, er... how? .MDS file has 4kb, and the others have 2gb each
[01:07] <sellout> `o
[01:07] <miyako> I read that ndiswrapper does not work in recent kernel releases; does anyone know if this applies to the version of the kernel shipping with hardy heron?
[01:08] <gangalee> who knows about loading modules?
[01:08] <zero-coo1> have anybody via
[01:08] <zero-coo1> ?
[01:08] <shigutso> Pelo, there's no option to extract... Nautilus detects as mpeg video files.. and .MDS file has only 4kb
[01:08] <VeN0mizer> miyako: there is a workaround http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=734003
[01:08] <miyako> gangalee: what do you need to know about loading modules?
[01:08] <Pelo> cirkit_, there are several things called splash screens in ubuntu,  there is one right after grub ,  the gdm and one little thing while gnome loads
[01:09] <miyako> VeN0mizer: awesome, forums are down; is the work arround essentially "install an older kernel"?
[01:09] <gangalee> miyako- I have a list of modules from when my system was working, I want to try to reload my usb modules in order to restore my system
[01:09] <Pelo> shigutso, I would tell you to look in the forum but it is currently down,  you'll have to wait, ,, I can tell you that tehre is a package to convert  disc images between format called bchunk but I've never used it
[01:09] <VeN0mizer> miyako: no, I'm using the latest kernel with ndiswrapper and a broadcom card ;P
[01:09] <biagidp> !screencast | biagidp
[01:09] <zero-coo1> have anybody via graphic card
[01:09] <zero-coo1> ?
[01:09] <sYn_0n3> is there anything wrong with pastebin?
[01:10] <sYn_0n3> its taking a long time to refresh
[01:10] <miyako> gangalee: well, if you want to insert a module, you can use "modprobe 'module name'" or "insmode full/path/to/the/module.ko" if you know what you're doing - modprobe is preferable
[01:10] <Pelo> zero-coo1, what is the issue ?
[01:10] <VeN0mizer> miyako: I have the html page saved
[01:10] <VeN0mizer> shall I dcc it to you?
[01:10] <AndrewB> biagidp: you can always /msg ubotu <name> which would save us the splash of text ;)
[01:10] <zero-coo1> i cat find resolution and i have problem with graphic
[01:10] <matt___> what is the openoffice database called in apt-get?
[01:10] <gangalee> I guess I ahve to try the whole list?
[01:10] <zero-coo1> i first put vesa
[01:10] <miyako> VeN0mizer: ah, I have dcc disabled at my firewall, any chance you could email it to me if I PM you my email address?
[01:10] <zero-coo1> and second i put openchrome
[01:10] <VeN0mizer> yes
[01:10] <shigutso> Pelo, bchunk says here in synaptic that only converts .bin/.cue into .iso... well, thanks anyway :)
[01:11] <Atomic_UE> I have an Acer TravelMate 4234 WLMi (4230 series) laptop with a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K17RS (from dmesg) burner. It's supposed to read/write CDs, DVD+R(W) AND DVD-R(W), both SL and DL. However the nautilus burner plugin keeps insisting on me to put in DVD+R DL to burn any/all DVDs. It reads any DVD fine and reads/burns CDs fine, but only wants the 1 type of DVD when burning. Anything I can do to fix this?
[01:11] <flexxall> Pelo : My sound is off per channel in volumn control
[01:11] <zero-coo1> and openchrome dos not good work
[01:11] <Starnestommy> matt___: openoffice.org-base
[01:11] <cirkit_> Pelo: looks like it is "splashy" ... instead of watching the boot process in text mode, there is some splashy screen while grub boots
[01:11] <Pelo> zero-coo1,  vesa is a fallback driver,   reconfigure x and let it auto detect
[01:11] <biagidp> AndrewB, yeah, Ubotu replied in a PM and told me...I didn't know
[01:11] <kinicker> I am trying to mount a VCD under ubuntu and it fails. It plays on the dvd player so I know the DVD isn't messed up. When I try to mount it though, I get an error msg.  in dmesg _ tail I get a DriveReady SeekComplete Error. Any ideas anyone?
[01:11] <matt___> Starnestommy: thanks, never would have tried that...
[01:11] <miyako> of course, this might be a moot point if the hard heron rc iso never finishes downloading =\
[01:11] <AndrewB> biagidp: np ;)
[01:11] <cirkit_> ah, usplash
[01:12] <mphill_> Atomic_UE: did you try any other programs?
[01:12] <VeN0mizer> miyako: sent ;)
[01:12] <Pelo> flexxall your not the first with this issue I don't remember what we did with the last guy,  but we manage to fix it
[01:12] <miyako> VeN0mizer: thanks
[01:12] <Pelo> !sound > flexxall start with this ,  there mgth be something
[01:12] <VeN0mizer> miyako: yw
[01:12] <Pelo> later folks
[01:13] <Atomic_UE> mphill_, not yet, was about to install something else to try it out. Just never had a problem with the nautilus-burner plugin like that before with any other burner
[01:13] <arkanes> anyone else have trouble with squid segfaulting?
[01:13] <zero-coo1> i dont know how put his resolution
[01:13] <mphill_> Atomic_UE: it seems very strange to me. Try k3b or something else
[01:13] <miyako> ah, okay, looks like the particular issue I was worried about doesn't effect hardy's kernel, or the work around would be much more complicated haha
[01:13] <zero-coo1> i have 1280x800 but it small
[01:14] <zero-coo1> what can i do
[01:14] <VeN0mizer> miyako: what issue? the only one I was aware of was the card simply not working lol
[01:14] <DPic> does anybody know how i can get this working with pidgin? http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/AOL_Alpha
[01:15] <miyako> VeN0mizer: with a recent version of the kernel (2.6.24 or 2.6.25 I think) ndiswrapper was broken
[01:15] <FFighter> hello
[01:15] <FFighter> folks
[01:15] <FFighter> I've got a portuguese-br locale, and while it is working great, I want to use a English_us spell-checker on gnome text widgets instead
[01:15] <miyako> Linus basically said "I don't care" and so now no ndiswrapper with new kernels until ndiswrapper gets fixed
[01:15] <FFighter> where do I configure it?
[01:15] <zero-coo1> via drive me crazy
[01:15] <costal79> hi people I'm looking information how to setup outgoing limit rates in postifx
[01:16] <VeN0mizer> miyako: strange....I have the latest kernel and don't have any issues when I use that workaround :/
[01:16] <costal79> there is a lot information for incoming rates
[01:16] <costal79> but not for outgoing imagine that you have 10000 emails in the queue
[01:16] <costal79> and I want it to deliver 150 every 20 minutes
[01:16] <miyako> VeN0mizer: hmm, it might have been a commit that's not part of stable yet
[01:16] <costal79> any idea ?
[01:16] <miyako> I obviously didnt do too much research, since at the time I didn't have a laptop; so didn't need wireless; so didn't care about ndiswrapper in the slightest
[01:17] <VeN0mizer> maybe :/ I have 2.6.24-16 ....I guess that's the latest?
[01:17] <miyako> VeN0mizer: no, 2.6.25 is out now
[01:17] <VeN0mizer> oooohhh
[01:17] <VeN0mizer> ruh roh
[01:17] <VeN0mizer> glad you told me, I'd be mad as heck if I got that update and it broke my wifi.....again.....
[01:18] <VeN0mizer> I just updated 10 mins ago....maybe it will show up tonight for me
[01:18] <miyako> of course, I fell down this whole rabbit hole all because I forgot to make a swap parition when I installed gutsy
[01:18] <VeN0mizer> owch
[01:18] <miyako> then I was going to dual boot with arch and gutsy, but I couldn't have more than 4 primary partitions
[01:18] <miyako> VeN0mizer: well, I have 3gb of ram; so I probably don't need one
[01:18] <miyako> and I could use a swap file in /var or something
[01:18] <miyako> but I just don't like doing that
[01:18] <VeN0mizer> miyako: unless you had vista lol
[01:18] <DPic> does anybody know how i can get this working with pidgin? http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/AOL_Alpha
[01:18] <MattJ> DPic: Last I knew they had shut it off :(
[01:19] <MattJ> DPic: No need to repeat :)
[01:19] <DPic> MattJ: aw, thanks
[01:19] <miyako> so anyway, I decided to just blow away my partition table
[01:19] <miyako> because I have a 30gb partition sitting around that I'm not use
[01:19] <miyako> *using
[01:19] <DPic> MattJ: Do ou ahve any idea how long ago that was?
[01:19] <nothing2> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[01:19] <gangalee> anyone know the command for the "new login" & "new login in a window" icons?
[01:19] <bazhang> miyako: 25 is only if you do it yourself; 24 is hardy kernel
[01:20] <MattJ> DPic: Hmm, some months at least, Jan/Feb I think
[01:20] <VeN0mizer> ahhh great IRC splits
[01:20] <VeN0mizer> thought those were a thing of the past
[01:20] <bazhang> nothing2: dont do that
[01:21] <VeN0mizer> bazhang: why did that string affect anything?
[01:21] <VeN0mizer> it appears miyako was banned by the flood bot, yet he wasn't flooding....any ops around to fix this?
[01:22] <bazhang> VeN0mizer: not registered
[01:22] <VeN0mizer> I'm not regged either :P
[01:22] <Iced_Eagle> VeN0mizer: Well you should ;-)
[01:22] <bazhang> then  perhaps not id'd VeN0mizer
[01:23] <PorkSoda> Any one heard word of any bugs that kill or tie up sound from certain apps, like evince or file roller?
[01:23] <VeN0mizer> done
[01:24] <PorkSoda> Every once in a while I have to lsof | grep pcm to find what is hijacking sound. :/
[01:24] <crimsun> PorkSoda: sure, Flash, jvm, etc.
[01:25] <PorkSoda> This has started happening recently
[01:25] <PorkSoda> recently as in 2 months
[01:27] <baalsgate> whats up
[01:27] <baalsgate> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-pack-en/language-pack-en_7.10+20080205_all.deb  404 Not Found
[01:28] <baalsgate> ??
[01:28] <strtok> hello, anyone running 8.04 (RC) on a dell optiplex 755 yet? On the installer the screen blinks on and off -- seems to be fixed if i lower the res from 1920x1200 to a lower resolution
[01:28] <PorkSoda> Aight ppl
[01:28] <Iced_Eagle> strtok: Go to #ubuntu+1 for any Hardy questions.
[01:28] <strtok> thanks
[01:29] <bazhang> baalsgate: perhaps it timed out
[01:29] <ik> Although there's a relevant thread on ubuntuforums.org, they appear to have disabled google caching (growl), and the forums are down at the moment, so I'll ask here.  I'm running gutsy on an eeepc, and firefox and evolution get launched on power events (remove AC, firefox launches, plug AC back in, evolution launches).
[01:29] <ik> This is weird and undesirable, does anyone know why it happens?  (I've looked around in /etc/acpi, and can't find anything relevant)
[01:30] <bazhang> ik: you could also look at eeepc channel and wiki if you dont get an answer here
[01:30] <ik> bazhang: I asked in there a few minutes ago, but thanks
[01:30] <theLichKing> so #ubuntu+2 would be for the next next release?
[01:30] <yusf> Klefs
[01:30] <sparr_> is there a bash-like shell in which a script can modify its parent's environment?
[01:31] <bazhang> ik yw
[01:31] <dacresni> where do i go for questions like future ubuntu kernel options
[01:31] <Otineb> Hi everyone. I'm having what I think is a simple problem, but cant seem to find a solution to it. A few weeks back, my display settings pooped out and dropped down to 800x600. I thought my vid card (ATI Radeon 9800 pro) had hit the bricks, but i checked it out and it was fine. I am currently using Ubuntu (Gutsy) with and it was fine. Now, no matter what i do, i cant get the restricted driver for it to work correctly (reverts to vega on 
[01:31] <Otineb> and the only way i can display higher resolutions is if i keep restricted drivers off. But the display is glitchy (sputters on scroll) and anything over 1024 shows brown bars to the right and bottom. I've been living this way for a week and I miss my cube desktop! Anyone heard of such an issue?
[01:31] <dacresni> ubuntu+1 doesnt seem right
[01:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic dacresni
[01:31] <dacresni> thanks
[01:32] <crdlb> sparr_: you can source a script to run it in the parent's environment
[01:32] <kinicker> I am trying to copy a vcd. any ideas?
[01:32] <bazhang> kinicker: using what app
[01:32] <kinicker> anything. I can even get it to mount
[01:32] <kinicker> cannot i mean
[01:33] <bazhang> kinicker: may be an issue with the vcd
[01:33] <kinicker> I can play it in the dvd player
[01:33] <kinicker> and it works fine
[01:33] <bazhang> kinicker: then why copy it
[01:33] <kinicker> I need to make more copies of it
[01:33] <baalsgate> fixed thanks anyways ;)
[01:34] <icesword> kinicker, copy biggest file in it to hd
[01:34] <bazhang> kinicker: to what end
[01:34] <kinicker> I can't mount it to get any files off of it
[01:34] <kinicker> just so I can have a few copies to give to friends. It's a presentation
[01:34] <baalsgate> im still getting perl problems :(
[01:35] <bazhang> kinicker: you want a backup for yourself? or something else--what is the vcd--perhaps it comes in another format
[01:35] <Drew_[SCED]> I'm terribly sorry for an IRC-related question, but how does one register a nickname?
[01:35] <ik> Drew_[SCED]: /msg nickserv help
[01:36] <bazhang> !register
[01:36] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[01:36] <Otineb> damn, go ubotu...
[01:36] <kinicker> it's a sales presentation. it's a burned dvd to begin with
[01:36] <bazhang> kinicker: will the dvd mount?
[01:36] <Otineb> anyone have any clues on my display question?
[01:36] <kinicker> no. I get an error msg. let me get the error msgs real quick
[01:37] <sparr_> crdlb: if only i had a machine designed for automating repetitive data entry tasks, like typing "source " before the name of a script every time i want to run it
[01:37] <sparr_> i could have functionality for pre-recording the things that i want to type
[01:37] <sparr_> we could call that a "script"
[01:37] <kinicker> in dmesg I get a DriveReady SeekComplete Error. and a LastFailedSense=0x03
[01:38] <crdlb> sparr_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:38] <bazhang> kinicker: and have you checked what those error messages mean?
[01:38] <sparr_> ive got a long programmatically generated string that i need to export
[01:38] <sparr_> export foo=34r89dn29p8nh236bgc98nhasdf987h98c27398er27bh879h6asdf897asdf
[01:38] <sparr_> i want to script that
[01:38] <kinicker> and when I mount it the regular error msg is wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd
[01:38] <sparr_> but i cant, because aparently ive discovered the one thing that scripts cant do
[01:38] <Otineb> ATI Radeon 9800 pro.. defaults to 800x600 vega driver if Restricted Driver is enabled. If i use the "radeon" driver that ubuntu likes, i get better resolutions, but glitchy screen scrolling and no advanced desktop effects.
[01:39] <roxy123> hi guys, im running a liveCD, but i want to take my emails off the HDD and access them with evolution, while in the liveCD
[01:39] <crdlb> sparr_: right, because it's a _subshell_
[01:39] <erealz> im sorry via cmdline what the syntax to make dir writeble
[01:39] <kinicker> bazhang: yes, Ive been googling for a while. and I can't get anything to work. i did read about a bug gnome related to this, but I'm hoping to circumvent that conclusion
[01:39] <postlogic> Hi. I'm having issues with Wubi. It keeps downloading 8.04 even though I have the iso next to it. Also it ignores --skipmd5check
[01:39] <kinicker> and the media is not bad
[01:39] <postlogic> It even copies the ISO to the proper place, but still tries downloading.
[01:39] <roxy123> would someone be able to help me out for a minute or 2?
[01:40] <Shpoo1> Hello everyone. In order to get my wireless working on my laptop, every time I boot up I have to modprobe ndiswrapper and use iwconfig to bind the wireless network to wlan0. Is there a way to make it automatically connect when my laptop boots up.
[01:40] <crimsun> Shpoo1: is ndiswrapper in /etc/modules?
[01:40] <bazhang> kinicker: do you have the original file you burned onto the dvd? what type of dvd is it?
[01:40]  * Shadow_X is still having issues with Firefox
[01:41] <UnForSaken> I have compiled and installed my wireless network driver for my ubuntu 5.04 but it is not shown in the network settings or network monitor.  Anyone have a suggestion on how to get it working???
[01:41] <Shpoo1> crimsun: One sec, let me check.
[01:41] <bazhang> UnForSaken: that version is no longer supported
[01:41] <kinicker> No, the dvd was given to me by someone else. I'm just trying to copy it for them. Its a standard Memorex DVD-R
[01:42] <Ubuntong> I have an ATI Radeon HD 3850 can anyone help me get compiz working?
[01:42] <Shpoo1> crimsun: I don't have /etc/modules. Closest thing is /etc/modutils
[01:42] <bazhang> kinicker: did they use some kind of drm with it
[01:42] <crimsun> Shpoo1: then you want to specify ndiswrapper in /etc/modules .
[01:42] <Waffle> !ati | ubuntong
[01:42] <ubotu> ubuntong: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:43] <kinicker> I don't think so. At least not that I am aware of. Is there a way to check? i even popped in my forsaken Windows box and it wouldn't mount there either.
[01:43] <Waffle> Ubuntong, are you using those drivers?
[01:43] <Shpoo1> crimsun: How would I go about doing that?
[01:43] <bazhang> kinicker: no way to contact this person?
[01:44] <flexxall> anyone have any ideas on how to remap my speakers
[01:44] <kinicker> It would be of no use. It's a sales/marketing presentation. It was given to him as a burned dvd and he wants some more copies of it.
[01:44] <crimsun> Shpoo1: echo ndiswrapper|sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:44] <UnForSaken> bazhang: ok then I guess I'll check back letter when the other guy is back who was helping me earlier
[01:44] <bazhang> kinicker: if neither windows nor ubuntu can mount it, what makes you think it is a good dvd?
[01:45] <Ubuntong> Waffle: Ubuntu says my hardware does not need any restricted drivers. I don't know much about all this driver stuff.
[01:45] <kinicker> because it will play in dvd player hooked to my TV
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> flexxall, #Alsa is the best place for sound questions
[01:45] <bazhang> UnForSaken: it is unsupported now and when he comes back
[01:45] <flexxall> Tried there but thanx
[01:45] <baalsgate> how do i install XMLTV ?
[01:46] <Shpoo1> crimsun: Thank you, I'll give it a try. :-)
[01:46] <bazhang> kinicker: what about hooking up a videocamcorder to the dvd and trying that way
[01:46] <UnForSaken> bazhang: I'm sure it is, but since he is willing to help then I can get the answer.  Works nice for those of us who can't d/l a newer version.
[01:46] <kinicker> bazhang: I don't have one
[01:47] <tarelerulz> What is a good video converter with a gui  that will do the ipod  psp and most of the other main formats
[01:47] <kinicker> I was thinking it might just be a wierd format, but my /etc/fstab is set to use iso9660 and that should normally work, right?
[01:47] <bazhang> UnForSaken: you need to get a supported version to receive support in this channel
[01:47] <UnForSaken> bazhang: ok w/e
[01:48] <bazhang> kinicker: no telling; especially since it will not mount
[01:48] <bazhang> UnForSaken: w/e? not sure what that means
[01:48] <ik> bazhang: 'whatever'
[01:48] <Hornet> what/ever
[01:48] <UnForSaken> bazhang: it means whatever...
[01:48] <prashant____> !backup
[01:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:49] <UnForSaken> it means if someone is willing to help someone else you shouldn't give either problems for doing it
[01:49] <Hornet> any ideas what would cause my wireless to suddenly stop working?
[01:49] <Hornet> for no apparent reason at all
[01:49] <bazhang> !eol | UnForSaken
[01:49] <ubotu> UnForSaken: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[01:49] <Hornet> and how can I troubleshoot it?
[01:49] <roxy123> bazhang: i have tried the tutorial on how to get grub restored, i have also tried a supergrubdisk... would you be able to help me please ( i ask you because i know your smart)
[01:49] <bazhang> UnForSaken: sadly, this channel has rules
[01:49] <roxy123> or any other smart guys!
[01:49] <roxy123> hehe
[01:50] <kinicker> even if it is DMR'd it shold still mount right? just won't play?
[01:50] <Lectrick> my USB external (60 gig fat32) keeps telling me it's read-only, off and on. How can I fix?
[01:50] <bazhang> kinicker: that it should; perhaps not in the iso format
[01:50] <danbhfive> roxy123: here is a big page on grub http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Lectrick, SOunds like a windows format that was not correctly shutdown
[01:50] <bazhang> hornet what chipset on that card
[01:51] <Constrabus> anyone running linux on an alienware laptop?
[01:51] <Lectrick> ok, so how can I fix?
[01:51] <UnForSaken> bazhang: I'm well aware of EOL....I'm also aware of how life and irc works..if I enter a private conversation with someone or if someone just starts giving information, your censoring it based on a version is a very intollerable way of doing support.  You have stated your official response and no further reactions is required on your part...but doesn't mean someone else can't pick it up and help out.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Lectrick, Is it ntfs / fat 32 format?
[01:52] <bazhang> UnForSaken: you are welcome to open a channel #eol-forsaken and discuss it there as well as via pm
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> UnForSaken, YOu and they should take it to a private chat...
[01:52] <level09> can I create users who has access to certain directories *only ?
[01:52] <Lectrick> fat32
[01:53] <Hornet> bazhang: in XP atm, device manager doesn't give the chipset information that I can find :\
[01:53] <UnForSaken> Jack_Sparrow: I agree I was willing to leave as was and simply wait, again nothing more has to be said about it
[01:53] <milia> hello all. I get inverted colours in my 7.10 ubuntu, 64bit when using the envy script to download the nvidia drivers.
[01:53] <Hornet> just that it's a 11/a/b/g wireless LAN mini PCI adapter II
[01:53] <milia> here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f58db4f23 and what i get after reboot: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9555/nvidiadriverek3.jpg
[01:53] <theLichKing> milla: call the cops
[01:53] <n-iCe> any idea why my title bar in all the windows has disappeared?? plss!
[01:53] <bazhang> hornet can you get into ubuntu to troubleshoot or otherwise find out the chipset
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lectrick, you need to make sure you properly shut it down on the windows box else you will end up forcing it to mount which can be dangerous
[01:54] <boolka> On ubuntu.com  news section, it says that 8.04 has been released, but it shows taht
[01:54] <boolka> On ubuntu.com  news section, it says that 8.04 has been released, but it shows taht there are 4 days to go...?
[01:54] <milia> theLichKing, if you can't help i'd apreciate it very much stfu :)
[01:54] <theLichKing> !envy | milia
[01:54] <ubotu> milia: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:54] <bazhang> boolka: april 24th
[01:54] <milia> aha.
[01:54] <Hornet> bazhang, yes, but means a 5/6 minute set of reboots/restarts
[01:54] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: open a terminal then type "metacity --replace"
[01:54] <bazhang> milia: not here please
[01:54] <milia> thax then
[01:54] <Hornet> obviously, no internet connection there atm
[01:54] <theLichKing> !stfu | milia
[01:54] <ubotu> milia: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:54] <milia> *thanx
[01:54] <cirkit_> Anyone have an idea why video files / webcam always has a blue tint? The color is unbalanced with video
[01:55] <Lectrick> ok i know to eject a device. whatever the reason I am having a problem fsck does not identify
[01:55] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  wow , worked buy why does it happen?
[01:55] <bazhang> cirkit_: what video card what drivers and how isntalled
[01:55] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: the window manager must have crashed
[01:55] <Shpoo1> Okay, I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules, and now it tries to connect on boot. But I still have to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETWORKx"
[01:55] <Shpoo1>  in order to connect.
[01:55] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  I see thanks you
[01:56] <prakriti> is there a way to set a prefered wireless network in roaming mode?
[01:56] <n-iCe> does anyone knows a good wireless manager to find my wireless connections etc?
[01:56] <prakriti> i'm tired of my lappy always connecting to my neighbors wifi
[01:56] <thesaint4444> hi guys, where does the automatic install of apache get put in fiesty? thanks.
[01:56] <bazhang> prakriti: why leave it in roaming then
[01:56] <cirkit_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GT (rev a1) .... nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-kernel-comon
[01:56] <cirkit_> bazhang ^
[01:57] <Ubuntong> Waffle: frglxinfo says Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:57] <cirkit_> im wondering if I should just install nvidia-glx drivers from synaptic
[01:57] <bazhang> cirkit I had three (3) questions
[01:57] <cirkit_> bazhang: correct...
[01:57] <cirkit_> synaptic
[01:57] <cirkit_> sorry
[01:57] <theLichKing> thesaint4444: try 'whereis apache'
[01:57] <cirkit_> I recently re-install ubuntu on this lapto and I remember previously using nvidia-glx drivers and new nvidia-glx-new
[01:58] <milia> are the 'restricted drivers' supported ?
[01:58] <bazhang> cirkit_: and that worked?
[01:58] <Starnestommy> milia: yes
[01:58] <milia> okkie, thanx
[01:58] <danbhfive> cirkit_: you should use the restricted drivers manager
[01:58] <thesaint4444> theLichKing: thanks, answer 'apache:' - what does that mean?
[01:58] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: try "locate apache" instead
[01:58] <_Net> W 11
[01:58] <cirkit_> bazhang: before this install, yes ...
[01:58] <theLichKing> thesaint4444: try locate
[01:59] <Hornet> bazhang: how can I find out from within windows XP?
[01:59] <bazhang> cirkit_: this is gutsy?
[01:59] <cirkit_> for some reason the nvidia drivers automatically installed
[01:59] <cirkit_> bazhang: RC1 hardy
[01:59] <bazhang> cirkit_: what kernel
[01:59] <cirkit_> I'll try the nvidia-glx drivers ...I do not believe I need nvidia-kernel-source though
[01:59] <cirkit_> Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686
[01:59] <hellues> !paste
[01:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:59] <Shpoo1> Is there a way to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETWORKx"" at startup? I'm trying to get my laptop to connect at startup. I also would like to set my network as the preferred network.
[02:00] <bazhang> cirkit_: that is odd; I have a very similar card and it works well
[02:00] <iclebyte> Shpoo1, it should really be specified in /etc/networking/
[02:01] <wasmeAtUBC> hi ... I have an ... odd problem ...
[02:01] <iclebyte> wasmeAtUBC, which is?
[02:01] <wasmeAtUBC> this will take a minute or 2 to type out ...
[02:01] <iclebyte> =)
[02:01] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: ok, got it thanks... I seem to have 2 installs, one in /etc/apache2/ which I am used to and another in /usr/local... what gives? thanks.
[02:01] <baalsgate> is there a package to install XMLTV ??
[02:02] <Shpoo1> iclebyte: un /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:02] <Shpoo1> in*
[02:02] <iclebyte> yup
[02:02] <franco> hi
[02:02] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: did you compile a version from source>
[02:02] <hellues> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63970/
[02:02] <hellues> i guess my system recognize printer
[02:02] <hellues> why can i use this ?
[02:03] <Shpoo1> iclebyte: Would I just put wlan0 essid "NETWORKx" in? or do I have to include iwconfig?
[02:03] <hellues> look at address it s output of dmesg
[02:03] <napi> what do I need to change so a user can't get out of their home directory? Or if they can, that they can't read contents of any files on the system?
[02:03] <wasmeAtUBC> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a 2GB compactflash card connected via IDE to an embedded systems board ... anyway, I've figured out regular ubuntu won't fit, but I have an xubuntu cd here. But for some reason the [X]ubuntu kernel doesn't load the ide-generic module automagically, so I have to load it myself. So booting from a usb key drive works, but booting from a cdrom connected via IDE doesn't work ...
[02:03] <nonewmsgs> i am having some issues with grub.  can someone please post a working windows/linux menu.lst in pastebin please?
[02:03] <n-iCe> how can I activate my wireless connection????
[02:03] <OlMightyGreek> hi guys. i need your help. its very important. what is wrong when i can not viel any webpages but i receive an answer when i make "ping -c2 ubuntu.com"?
[02:03] <wasmeAtUBC> is there any way to boot from a regular ubuntu live usb key drive and then install from an xubuntu cd from there?
[02:04] <bazhang> n-iCe: with the debian kernel?
[02:04] <Hornet> bazhang: SMC a viable answer? :\  not much more I can find out from here
[02:04] <pfischer> sounds like your dns is not working OlmightyGreek
[02:04] <n-iCe> bazhang,  ubumntu 7.10
[02:04] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: to be honest I am not sure, I only recently have gained more experience using linux. I think I tried to upgrade to apache 2.2 but have left the original apache install in place. I can't rember how I tried to upgrade or what the setup was before. Any suggestions how to proceed? thanks.
[02:04] <Hornet> and can't reboot like a yoyo every few minutes
[02:04] <bazhang> n-iCe: what does uname -r show
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wasmeAtUBC, Would you like an iso2usb script
[02:05] <n-iCe> bazhang,  2.6.22-14-generic
[02:05] <OlMightyGreek> where can i set it? im using a umts/gprs mobile card with wvdial. it shows the right dns but i think my system dies not use them where can i set them manually?
[02:05] <OlMightyGreek> dies=does
[02:05] <n-iCe> bazhang,  im sending sudo iwconfig essid myessidname but now isn't working when I do iwconfig says on essid:noname
[02:05] <Niriven> Good games? Eh? Anywhere? Crap/
[02:05] <bazhang> n-iCe: you replaced your debian kernel?
[02:05] <wasmeAtUBC> Jack_Sparrow: well, I don't have a spare usb drive, so I'd have to overwrite my [regular] usb key drive, which I'd like to avoid if possible, but as a last resort, yes.
[02:05] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I just installed ubuntu 7.10
[02:06] <pfischer> i usually add it to /etc/resolv.conf
[02:06] <bazhang> n-iCe: please pastebin your sources.list
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> wasmeAtUBC, Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[02:06] <user0423> question: how do you "seed" with transmission?
[02:06] <wasmeAtUBC> thanks
[02:06] <OlMightyGreek> ok, thx, ill try
[02:06] <pfischer> or you can go to system->network
[02:07] <pfischer> you need entries like nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[02:07] <pfischer> where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the dns servers ip
[02:07] <Elevator_Hazard> Hmmm so it says here on the gujin page that I can just drop an img file in my boot sector and it will boot that?
[02:07] <Hornet> bazhang: was that what you needed to know, or should I keep looking?
[02:07] <Hornet> anyone know how long the forums will be kaput for?
[02:07] <Hornet> there's a thread about this I need to read :\
[02:08] <Shpoo1> Crap, the forums are down. That makes googling much more difficult.
[02:08] <Hornet> exactly :(
[02:09] <n-iCe> bazhang,  everything is alright workes in other wireless modem I don't know why in this one not
[02:09] <OlMightyGreek> t
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Hornet, See if google has a cache of it
[02:10] <Shpoo1> Alright, in /etc/network/interfaces, if I add the line " iwconfig wlan0 essid "networkx" will that allow it to connect on boot up? I'm sort of just guessing here.
[02:10] <bazhang> Hornet: well it would be helpful to know the exact chipset; also to troubleshoot wireless it is best to be able to have the box up and ready to connect to a hotspot
[02:10] <Hornet> Jordan_U: it doesn't :(
[02:10] <Hornet> well, it can, but then I can't talk to you to find out what to do :\
[02:10] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, morning :)
[02:10] <Hornet> only one laptop, and this is it :\
[02:10] <Hornet> in XP atm
[02:10] <bazhang> n-iCe: so you are okay then? no further help needed?
[02:11] <bazhang> hornet any way to run a ethernet cable to that box?
[02:11] <n-iCe> bazhang,  why is not detecting, I mean is not being activated
[02:11] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: morning!
[02:11] <Shadow_X> anyone ever have a problem with the "save image as" menu item in Ubuntu Linux xAMD_64?
[02:11] <abadtooth> Hello, I'm trying to connect my Motorola W375 in ubuntu Gusty, does anyone know how to do this?
[02:11] <bazhang> n-iCe: please pastebin your sources.list
[02:11] <Hornet> bazhang, no, sadly
[02:11] <Orbixx> Problem! Firestarter times out when starting on boot. Any idea why?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Shadow_X, In what application?
[02:11] <Hornet> router's out of reach, and no working cable anyway
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> I'm having trouble with Banshee. It keeps freezing on startup with some error about initializing audio devices. I don't have any audio devices AFAIK. and there is no way to kill the process.
[02:12] <Shpook> It's really annoying to not have my laptop connect automagically when it boots up.
[02:12] <bazhang> Hornet: aha; so you were going to write down the instructions from here and then later try them at your leisure?
[02:12] <tarelerulz> Is there any good vidio converting program with a gui?
[02:12] <haxality> the_darkside_986, if you have no audio devices, what do you need banshee for?
[02:12] <Ubuntong> when I run sudo aticonfig --initial it says Aborted (core dumped)
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> *i use banshee as a music application.
[02:13] <Hornet> bazhang: well, when I have enough possibilies I'll reboot
[02:13] <Hornet> trying to be as efficient as possible
[02:13] <haxality> right. but if you had no audio devices that would mean you couldn't play sound
[02:13] <the_darkside_986> *oh i thought it meant music players. it works generally well; rhythmbox tends to crash randomly.
[02:13] <bazhang> Hornet: but without some basic info such as chipset there is just not much to go on
[02:13] <mintsoup> I can't find an option to adjust the default brightness of my display when running ubuntu.. is there anything like that?
[02:13] <the_darkside_986> well i don't know what the error is. i do have a sound card that works and isn't being tied up by SDL or anything
[02:14] <Jordan_U> mintsoup, Yes, I believe it's in power settings
[02:14] <Hornet> bazhang: it's an IBM thinkpad r51e, I can't find the chipset via google though
[02:14] <iclebyte> mintsoup, thats what the buttons on your monitor are for?
[02:14] <Hornet> but if I want to buy another I'm set, heh
[02:14] <arvind_khadri> mintsoup, use the navigation on your monitor
[02:14]  * iclebyte nods at arvind_khadri  
[02:14] <mintsoup> i'm using a laptop and it doesn't save what i put it on
[02:14] <abadtooth> Is it possible to sync my Motorola phone in ubuntu to transfer some images?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> mintsoup, System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[02:15] <bazhang> Hornet: you might want to check the manufacturers pdf or the book that came with it; no real way of knowing how to help without that basic info--you might try thinkwiki as well
[02:15] <mintsoup> i don't see an option for it in there :(
[02:15] <h00k> abadtooth, You should be able to plug it in and it will mount your phone, you'll be able to browse your images
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Hornet, One thing you can try without knowing the chipset is System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[02:16] <abadtooth> h00k:  Well that didn't work for me :(
[02:16] <nxusr> SSH use public-key cryptography or symmetric-key cryptography?
[02:16] <h00k> abadtooth, which sort of phone?
[02:16] <bazhang> Jordan_U: he is on his windows partition and has no internet on ubuntu connection
[02:16] <Hornet> Jordan_U / bazhang: it was all working, everything's installed
[02:16] <abadtooth> Motorola W375 from Net10 with a usb port.
[02:16] <Hornet> Jordan_U / bazhang: but it just *stopped*, for literally no reason
[02:16] <abadtooth> h00k: Motorola W375 from Net10 with a usb port.
[02:17] <Hornet> And I do mean that, I wasn't doing anything at the time other than IRC
[02:17] <Hornet> bazhang: Atheros AR5004G apparently :)
[02:17] <bazhang> what say you Jordan_U
[02:17] <EddieDS> I need help
[02:18] <arvind_khadri> EddieDS, ask
[02:18] <nethakz> If I install the 8.04 beta now, will it auto upgrade to the LTS when it's out in a few days?
[02:18] <zico> yes
[02:18] <the_darkside_986> is there a good amarok-like music player for gnome that does NOT require one to import music before adding it to a playlist? exaile looks nice but is being stubborn. I can't open multiple folders into a single playlist all at once.
[02:18] <EddieDS> I'm new to Ubuntu and when I try to install it, my monitor just turns off
[02:19] <VoidedCheck> EddieDS, did you let it sit for awhile?  sometimes the hardware autodetection can take awhile.
[02:19] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: I have a computer at work that does that, usually the screen goes out of range for about a minute or so while it is loading and then comes back when it is in. Not sure why, but try waiting some.
[02:19] <OlMightyGreek> putting the dns into the resolv.conf did not work.. :(
[02:19] <the_darkside_986> What kind of monitor, a CRT? I used to deal with a flawed xorg.conf setup until I bought a LCD. it saves energy and looks nicer.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Hornet, I would try "sudo modprobe ath_hal" and if you get any errors save them to a thumb drive or something
[02:19] <h00k> abadtooth, not that I know of
[02:20] <OlMightyGreek> i dont know what to do. *desperate*
[02:20] <EddieDS> I tried waiting 5 minutes, but nothing, yes it is a crt. Maybe I should try just waiting longer?
[02:20] <Shpook> Oh, one more problem. I added a menu bar at the bottom of my screen. I booted up one day and got some error I can't remember, but now that menu bar is up top, and won't let me move it. How can I fix this?
[02:20] <bouma> hello, when im in natuilus, it says i dont have permission to mount a particular partition, but it wont give me an option to type my pword either
[02:20] <VoidedCheck> 5 minutes is a bit long
[02:20] <SeaPhor_> how do i configure wpasuplicant?
[02:20] <OlMightyGreek> anyone knows how to use wvdial?
[02:20] <nxusr> SSH use public-key cryptography or symmetric-key cryptography?
[02:20] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: How old is the computer?
[02:20] <EddieDS> Brand New
[02:20] <bazhang> EddieDS: you try moving the mouse?
[02:20] <bouma> i could sudo mount it from a command line, but whats the correct way to use the gui to get 'hal' or something to do it for me ??
[02:20] <Hornet> EddieDS: what computer is it?
[02:20] <Hornet> Jordan_U: will try, thanks
[02:21] <EddieDS> It's a custom computer I ordered from cyberpowerpc.com
[02:21] <bouma> btw its been mounting it fine reciently
[02:21] <j2daosh> how do i change my screen resolution? i have a dell laptop and the drivers are apparantly wrong since it is only using about half my screen
[02:21] <sean_> bouma: sudo nautilus?
[02:21] <emivan> iniciante
[02:21] <bouma> sean_: hrm ok
[02:21] <Jordan_U> nxusr, I think public key but don't quote me on it :)
[02:21] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: Do you have another monitor to test it on?
[02:21] <partsguy> anyone have any luck with the bcm4306 wireless chipset in hardy?
[02:21] <Hornet> gksudo, for the love of god
[02:21] <VoidedCheck> or gksudo nautilus
[02:21] <EddieDS> No
[02:21] <sean_> sorry. :P
[02:22] <newbie> I am having problems with my wireless card. Ubuntu 8.04 does not recognize it. It is a netgear wg511, oes anyone has the same problem, or knows how to fix it?
[02:22] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: I would try the Alternative CD and install without the live CD.
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> !hardy
[02:22] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:22] <EddieDS> how do I install it without the live CD
[02:22] <bazhang> newbie some have reported ndiswrapper working with that
[02:22] <the_darkside_986> EddieDS: what version of Ubuntu are you trying? 7.10? What I did was load up 7.04 (which had a working xorg) and copy its automatic xorg.conf into my 7.10 install.
[02:23] <arvind_k> EddieDS, install what
[02:23] <nxusr> Jordan_U, thanks
[02:23] <EddieDS> 7.10
[02:23] <newbie> bazhang, how can I set ndiswrapper to work?
[02:23] <bouma> sean_: ah, it seems its cause the last time i used windows i just used the hardware reset button and its marked dirty
[02:23] <arvind_k> EddieDS, you mean the ubuntu OS
[02:23] <Hornet> bazhang / Jordan_U: brb, rebooting
[02:23] <EddieDS> yes
[02:23] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: It is just a different CD. http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/gutsy/alternate/
[02:23] <bazhang> newbie: have you used ndiswrapper before?
[02:23] <bouma> sean_: would have been nice the get a msg to that effect without having to run a console and sudo nautilus :)
[02:23] <the_darkside_986> Most likely, it is guessing your monitor refresh rate wrong. Perhaps you could try booting up an older Ubuntu CD, just look at what it guesses for your screen refresh rates, and use those values in 7.10 in its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:23] <bouma> sean_: i wonder if there is a bug about that
[02:23] <arvind_k> EddieDS, ok so you use the Live cd or a Alternatice vd
[02:24] <newbie> bazhang, no, I am quite new to ubuntu
[02:24] <arvind_k> s/vd/cd
[02:24] <bouma> sean_: i should just reboot into windows and shutdown properly then i suppose
[02:24] <EddieDS> I don't know, I just downloaded it off the Ubuntu site
[02:24] <bazhang> arvind_k: ;]
[02:24] <sean_> bouma: yeah that'll work. I had the same problem a while ago.
[02:24] <arvind_k> bazhang, :)
[02:24] <cuti> Hola soy Gustavo
[02:24] <Orbixx> Firestarter times out when starting on boot. Any idea why?
[02:24] <bazhang> !es | cuti
[02:24] <ubotu> cuti: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:24] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: Yeah that is the Live CD. There is an alternative CD that you can use that has a console installation. It is at the link I sent you.
[02:25] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/gutsy/alternate/
[02:25] <bouma> sean_: also whereas i normally get the pasword dialog in this case my user was just getting a.. you dont have permission msg, and no explaination so i think the interface/behaviour is not optimal
[02:25] <arvind_k> EddieDS, ok...does the cd boot into a graphical user interface
[02:25] <EddieDS> DanikarPN: what's the difference between the two
[02:25] <sean_> Right now my /media/sda6 is being labeled as "z_h_6	jb" and I have absolutely no idea how to fix it. When I check the label it's "MUSIC" correctly, but that doesn't display. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:25] <ceil420> is there no way i can update to libconfuse 2.6 using Xubuntu 7.10?
[02:25] <DanikarPN> arvind_k: No it blanks out before that I belive he said.
[02:25] <newbie> bazhang, when I insert my wireless card, one of the two leds blinks constantly, and the other just remain on
[02:25] <EddieDS> arvind_k: yeah. I press start install, then it loads the kernal, then goes blan
[02:25] <DanikarPN> my bad
[02:25] <DanikarPN> oh
[02:25] <DanikarPN> lol
[02:25] <sean_> bouma: that'd definitely be a nice feature
[02:26] <foibles> would anyone know where i could find the package gdk-x11-2.0?
[02:26] <bazhang> newbie this is usb or pcmcia card; and are you hotplugging or starting up with it in
[02:26] <biabia> whats the difference in an echo command like echo This is a line of echo text and echo "This is a line of echo text"
[02:26] <foibles> im trying to compile the new alpha of banshee
[02:26] <arvind_k> EddieDS, ok seems like a toasted cd ... get a alternate cd they are the best and if you want live cd's use shipit
[02:26] <arvind_k> !shipit | EddieDS
[02:26] <ubotu> EddieDS: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[02:26] <foibles> it keeps giving me errors because i don't have that package
[02:26] <newbie> bazhang, pcmcia, hotplugging
[02:27] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: The difference is one loads a test version of the OS and the alt just loads a basic console installation
[02:27] <EddieDS> What's the difference between i386 and the amd one
[02:27] <arvind_k> EddieDS, after 3 days you can have 8.04
[02:27] <bazhang> newbie: that is likely not a good idea ; does ifconfig show two entries or three
[02:27] <blind> Okay, I have a bit of a problem. I'm connected to my wireless network, and my wired network keeps coming alive and kills my connection, because I have nothing wired. Any help?
[02:27] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: What processor do you have?
[02:27] <EddieDS> an Intel
[02:27] <arvind_k> EddieDS, i386 are for the intel 32 bit ones and amd 64 are for the amd 64 bit ones
[02:27] <DanikarPN> EddieDS U want the i386 one then.
[02:28] <arvind_k> EddieDS, you should then go for i386
[02:28] <EddieDS> ok thanks
[02:28] <newbie> three, but my laptop has a built in wireless card, but I need my external card to work
[02:28] <arvind_k> EddieDS, welcome :)
[02:28] <bazhang> newbie: what is the internal card
[02:28] <EddieDS> thanks guys, first I'm going to try to just wait a little bit longer with the one I already have, then I'll try the alt one, thanks again
[02:28] <ceil420> is there no way i can update to libconfuse 2.6 using Xubuntu 7.10?
[02:28] <DanikarPN> EddieDS: np
[02:29] <foibles> would anyone know where i could find the package gdk-x11-2.0?
[02:29] <foibles> im trying to compile the new alpha of banshee
[02:29] <foibles> it keeps giving me errors because i don't have that package
[02:29] <foibles> has anyone else tried to compile the new ver of banshee?
[02:29] <bazhang> perhaps packages.ubuntu.com foibles
[02:29] <foibles> bazhang, checked
[02:29] <arvind_k> biabia, #bash would be responsive
[02:29] <n-iCe> how can I scan for wireless connections???
[02:29] <newbie> bazhang, intel prowireless 2200bg
[02:29] <biabia> arvind thanks
[02:29] <arvind_k> biabia, welcome
[02:30] <bazhang> newbie why not use that card? it is the best supported in possibly all of linux
[02:30] <Shpook> Alright, more questions. What's the easiest way to network and hopefully synchronize folders with another ubuntu machine? And is there an easy way to update to 8.04RC?
[02:30] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: #iwlist scan
[02:30] <nonewmsgs> when fsck gives the % noncontagious, was that corrected or is that still the %
[02:30] <newbie> bazhang, I modified my netgear card with a cantenna, that's why
[02:31] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, do you want to do something like having mirrored /home partitions?
[02:31] <bazhang> newbie: you want to use ndiswrapper on a pcmcia card when the internal card will work and is very well supported?
[02:31] <newbie> bazhang, the wireless network I am sharing is far, so I need to amplify it, and the internal card does not even detect the signal
[02:31] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: Not quite that drastic. I mainly just want my web design folder sync'd with the desktop.
[02:32] <hornet_> bazhang / Jordan_U: it now works again
[02:32] <DanikarPN> You could share it with Samba
[02:32] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: But even the two having access to another will be fine.
[02:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, Shpook I would suggest using nfs
[02:32] <bazhang> hornet_: what did you do
[02:32] <nwidger> does anyone know what package provides mid3v2?  i already installed but need to put it on another computer, but 'apt-cache search mid3v2' gives me nothing.  any suggestions?
[02:32] <newbie> bazhang, yes, I need it. It may sound weird, but I cannot detect the wireless network I am sharing with the internal card
[02:32] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: how far
[02:32] <hornet_> bazhang: nothing
[02:32] <sean_> Right now my /media/sda6 is being labeled as "z_h_6	jb" and it should be labelled "MUSIC". It says MUSIC when I check it in the terminal, it's just not displayed. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:32] <hornet_> same as I did when it gave up
[02:32] <bazhang> hornet_: nice
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, that would only use 1 for 2 machines, and they wouldn't have to sync
[02:33] <tengulre> when I install new ubuntu-server ,I stopped on configure apt-source , what's wrong? how to skipped it?
[02:33] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, about 100 mts
[02:33] <hornet_> so it looks to just be fickle, which is great, as I'm a webdev
[02:33] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: Is it relatively easy to set up? I tried Samba, and had nothing but headaches trying to get it all working.
[02:33] <hornet_> so the internet is rather handy, to say the least
[02:33] <kittykitty> how would i make a routing table entry to send outgoing requests to my own ip (external) back to the internal network instead of traversing the internet ?
[02:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, yes, it's easy. you have to read the docs, but it's a lot easier than samba imho
[02:33] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: I would prefer them to be sync'd, but that would still work for me. Thank you, I'll go give it a try. :-D
[02:34] <Frederick> folks im trying to install firefox but I get the following error http://pastey.net/86225
[02:34] <SchighSchagh> I'm having trouble using a USB device in a virtual machine. my host computer is ubuntu gutsy, and my guest is XP Pro. I'm trying to get the guest OS to see my iPhone, but I think ubuntu (host OS) auto-mounts it or whatnot, so VMware can't give control of the device to Windows (guest OS)
[02:34] <DanikarPN> Shpook: http://ubuntuguide.org has an easy to follow Samba tutorial.
[02:34] <n-iCe> does anyone knows any wireless manager, please????
[02:34] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: is an external usb wifi out of the question
[02:34] <Jordan_U> hornet_, Is the driver "enabled" ( or whatever they call it ) in System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager? ( so that you don't have to manually modprobe every boot )
[02:34] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, no problem. it just involves making sure a few things are installed, and minor cfg edits on the host and server
[02:35] <kittykitty> n-iCe, try iwconfig and wifi-tools ?
[02:35] <bazhang> n-iCe: what is the network you are trying to connect to
[02:35] <hornet_> Jordan_U: yes, it's fine
[02:35] <n-iCe> bazhang,  INFINITUM8162
[02:35] <hornet_> I didn't modprobe either
[02:35] <michalski> Want to vote about you favorite ubuntu programs? which messenger do you preffer? VOTE! #ubuntu-bots you can even vote about cheese!
[02:35] <n-iCe> bazhang,  isn't workin!
[02:35] <Shpook> DanikarPN: Thank you, if i have issues with nfs, I'll try samba again.
[02:35] <n-iCe> in my house worked pretty good
[02:35] <hornet_> just rebooted, and it decided to work again
[02:35] <nethakz> Anybody know why the virtualbox install in the add/remove programs doesn't auto install the utilities and modules for the host and guest?
[02:35] <SeaPhor_> how do i configure wpasuplicant? anyone know?
[02:35] <SchighSchagh> I'm having trouble using a USB device in a VMware. my host computer is ubuntu gutsy, and my guest is XP Pro. I'm trying to get the guest OS to see my iPhone, but I think ubuntu (host OS) auto-mounts it or whatnot, so VMware can't give control of the device to Windows (guest OS)
[02:35] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, you're talking Linux to Linux, correct?
[02:35] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: Doesn't sound too hard to handle. :-)
[02:35] <hornet_> wish the forums were working thogh
[02:35] <hornet_> *though
[02:35] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, I did not understand your question :( - I am using a pcmcia card
[02:35] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: Yeah, both Ubuntu Gutsy.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, ok. NFS for sure. no need for SMB
[02:36] <bazhang> n-iCe: wep, wpa/wpa2 or open
[02:36] <axisys> what version ubuntu server would work best for x4100 ?
[02:36] <n-iCe> bazhang,  wep
[02:36] <n-iCe> bazhang, :  Authentication:  	WEP-Open
[02:36] <n-iCe> Encryption: 	WEP
[02:36] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: ah, laptop, I use minipci in laptop at home but when i ned range i use external usb adapeter
[02:36] <bazhang> n-iCe: can you open up the router to none
[02:36] <MiYaRSTiM> adapter*
[02:37] <n-iCe> bazhang,  done
[02:37] <Shpook> Seven_Six_Two: Well, I was also trying samba to include a windows machine into the network, but that's not needed anymore. I'm reading on nfs now. Thanks again.
[02:37] <bazhang> n-iCe: what does ifconfig show; two entries or three
[02:37] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, the thing is that I do not want to buy another wireless card. If my card worked on ubuntu 7.10, It must work on 8.04 in some way
[02:38] <n-iCe> 4
[02:38] <JPSman_> who is excited about hardy?
[02:38] <bazhang> n-iCe: wmaster0 and wlan0?
[02:38] <n-iCe> no
[02:38] <nonewmsgs> jspm
[02:38] <newbie> bazhang, could you tell me how to use ndiswrapper to make my card work?
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Shpook, np.
[02:38] <Frederick> folks im trying to install firefox but I get the following error http://pastey.net/86225
[02:38] <arvind_k> JPSman_, the whole ubuntu community
[02:38] <SchighSchagh> I'm having trouble using a USB device in a VMware. my host computer is ubuntu gutsy, and my guest is XP Pro. I'm trying to get the guest OS to see my iPhone, but I think ubuntu (host OS) auto-mounts it or whatnot, so VMware can't give control of the device to Windows (guest OS)
[02:38] <n-iCe> eth0 eht1 eth1:avah lo
[02:39] <nonewmsgs> jsps i was much more excitd before when i last tested the beta and my wired card didnt work
[02:39] <EddieDS> Hi again. I just tried to wait out with my current CD, but after a while, it just spat the CD out.
[02:39] <arvind_k> Frederick, what happened to the one that came default
[02:39] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs newbie please read this
[02:39] <JPSman_> arwind_k - I wonder if 8.0 will support my soundcard :OP
[02:39] <iclebyte> SchighSchagh, find the kernel module which is being loaded by the host OS with 'dmesg' then add it to /etc/modules/blacklist
[02:39] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: I use alpha networks usb awus036h with various antennas, very impressive
[02:39] <Frederick> arvind_k: oki I have a 64 bits machine so I need firefox 32
[02:39] <Frederick> Ive dediced to update my kde and all got brokwen
[02:40] <kittykitty> n-iCe, list your interface names, they'll be like lo, eth0, wlan0, ra0, sit0 or similar
[02:40] <bazhang> he just did
[02:40] <n-iCe> i DID
[02:40] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: depends on needs though
[02:40] <n-iCe> did
[02:40] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, what is the estimated range you can cover with your adapter?
[02:40] <arvind_k> JPSman_, its got one of the best kernels...and if it doesnt support the latest kernel at kernel.org will surely do...
[02:40] <kittykitty> and bazhang, if he'll be using iwconfig, you can just iwconfig with no paramaters to see which cards are wireless
[02:40] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: i have atheros based 400mw mini pci in laptop
[02:40] <EddieDS> Hi again. I just tried to wait out with my current CD, but after a while, it just spat the CD out.
[02:40] <bazhang> n-iCe: kittykitty can help you out here
[02:41] <arvind_k> Frederick, running a 32 bit in 64 bit is a tough process...
[02:41] <bryton_03> hi! how can i reinstall the dovecot and make it create new configuration files?
[02:41] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: lol, with my 1m parabolic (and same antenna at other end) its alledgedly 41km
[02:41] <SeaPhor_> if a nic is giving itself an address (169.254.x.x- the default when no dhcp found) that means its working ,,, right?
[02:41] <MiYaRSTiM> but
[02:41] <n-iCe> kittykitty, :  http://www.sdfasfdasd.pastebin.com/m19535f4
[02:41] <n-iCe> iwconfig reply
[02:42] <kittykitty> k, loading (dont mind long waits between my replies)
[02:42] <chodebucket> is there a way to do a text install using the amd64 7.10 iso
[02:42] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: I get a couple of km when connecting to ordinary wifi routers
[02:42] <Starnestommy> chodebucket: use the alternate cd
[02:42] <arvind_k> bryton_03, sudo dpkg -reconfigure dovecot
[02:42] <nonewmsgs> yes use th alternat cd
[02:42] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, really??? You showld get 1000s of signals, don't you? And what about the quality of the signal?
[02:42] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: depends whats in the way
[02:42] <chodebucket> Starnestommy: im out of blank discs, cant i pass a command to the regular disc?
[02:42] <kittykitty> can you do "iwlist eth1 scan"
[02:43] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: its very directional
[02:43] <bryton_03> arvind_k: thanks!
[02:43] <kittykitty> and see if your ap/router shows up in the list
[02:43] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  ok
[02:43] <DanikarPN> chodebucket, no i dont think so. Here is a link to the alt cd. http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/gutsy/alternate/
[02:43] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: but i can connect to about 20 from where i am
[02:43] <Jordan_U> chodebucket, No, but depending on your problem and how desperate you are there may be other options
[02:43] <n-iCe> eth1      No scan results
[02:43] <ransom> .
[02:43] <chodebucket> Jordan_U: i need another option --- i have a video card that the installer isnt recognizing apparently
[02:43] <chodebucket> even in safe graphics mode
[02:44] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: problem is target systems use crappy routers and antennas
[02:44] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, so that means that you are in a region where wireless networks are not quite available?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> chodebucket, Do you have another computer available?
[02:44] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  it does
[02:44] <kittykitty> n-iCe,  try it again, my card won't return results till i poll it at least once
[02:44] <Juano> hello room, is the release candidate of 8.04 the same compilation that is coming out in 2 more days? because i want to download it, would you recommend waiting 2 more days or is it for sure that the candidate is going to be it ? TIA
[02:44] <towlie> 8.04 is due this month right ?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> towlie, This week :)
[02:44] <DanikarPN> towlie: due this week.
[02:44] <towlie> cool
[02:44] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: yes and no, my antenna is pointing away from local town, just the way my workshop is situated in my house
[02:44] <ransom> 8.04?
[02:45] <bazhang> Juano: you can get it now and then just update to final
[02:45] <towlie> i want to upgrade my install of 7.04
[02:45] <towlie> but i will wait
[02:45] <DanikarPN> towlie: Thursday, if i am not mistaken.
[02:45] <Odd-rationale> Juano: yes, you can install the RC now. and by just regualr updates, you will be moved to the final release
[02:45] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  http://www.sdfasfdasd.pastebin.com/m51664016
[02:45] <Dreamer80> someone can help me, i've a problem with gscanner i make g_scanner_add_symbol(scanner,"+","+"), but it is not recognized, i add other symbos that start with a letter (a to z) it works, but with "+" no
[02:45] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: i have been out and about with it though, and it is amazing what you can get
[02:46] <chodebucket> Jordan_U: yeah ive got several computers available
[02:46] <chodebucket> none with a graphics card thatll work in it though
[02:46] <MiYaRSTiM> newbie: the awus036h is 500mw (depending on antenna) and i do have it running under ubuntu and slax
[02:46] <kittykitty> n-iCe, you have to associate the card to your ap before you can use the other tools
[02:46] <Juano> bazhang: Odd-rationale thanks, i guess i will download it now then :), plus i'm guessing the changes will be very little from the one thats up now than the one coming up in 2 days
[02:46] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  how
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> Juano: yes. any changes, however, will come as an update.
[02:47] <kittykitty> n-iCe, try... iwconfig eth1 essid "your router's essid" key XXXXXXXXXX
[02:47] <Juano> Odd-rationale: great
[02:47] <kittykitty> where the x's are your wpa whatchamacallit
[02:47] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  I did that's exactly the problem! I set it but doesn't change, whyy?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> chodebucket, You can install openssh-server within the liveCD then use ssh -X to run ubiquity remotely, it will most likely give you an installed system that also won't work with your graphics card though
[02:48] <guitarthrasher> rrgh forums are down.
[02:48] <kittykitty> n-iCe sudo if you have to, if it says crap about permissions, you need to be root to run most of these utils
[02:48] <arvind_k> guitarthrasher, we are always up;)
[02:48] <JPSman_> Holy Butter Nut Monkies!!  Creative finnally created a 32-bit X-Fi driver!  I can hear my ubuntu now!!
[02:48] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, I don't think you need ifup for that. iwconfig should do it
[02:48]  * JPSman_ dances a very happy dance
[02:48] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  i know im using sudo
[02:48] <nikki8965> /exit
[02:48] <newbie> MiYaRSTiM, neat!
[02:49] <kittykitty> n-iCe, pastebin us the output from your iwconfig (blot out your key if you're paranoid)
[02:49] <n-iCe> kittykitty, Seven_Six_Two :  http://www.sdfasfdasd.pastebin.com/m2c80bd2a
[02:49] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, Could your password have characters that the shell is interpreting as wild cards or something?
[02:49] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  there you ae
[02:49] <n-iCe> Jordan_U,  no, are numbers
[02:49] <Froto> can someone tell me what xubuntu is all about? and for that matter kubuntu? since kubuntu is suppose to be and easy OS what is ubuntu then?
[02:49] <JMhaha> hi, I need to do a cron to chmod and chown some files on every hour, but ubuntu always request me password (sudo) if I do that. Anyway to skip the sudo or asking password?
[02:49] <ransom> thry distros
[02:49] <bazhang> xfce and kde instead of gnome froto
[02:50] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, try setting your ap to "any"
[02:50] <arvind_k> Froto, ubuntu uses gnome ,xubuntu uses xfce4 and kubuntu uses KDE
[02:50] <subopt> I've got a shell script that needs to do some stuff via http. What do i set $HTTP_PROXY to in a standard workstation install that sits behind a NAT device?
[02:50] <ransom> fedora pushed back their release date on 9.0
[02:50] <Froto> and those are different desktops right?
[02:50] <DanikarPN> Froto, Different Graphical User Interfaces. Ubuntu uses a GUI called Gnome, and i think like 10 people just answered so nvm.
[02:50] <arvind_k> Froto, bingo !!! yea
[02:50] <bazhang> froto www.distrowatch.com has the screenshots
[02:51] <ransom> yea
[02:51] <ransom> good site
[02:51] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, and bring eth1 down and up with ifconfig or iwconfig
[02:51] <EddieDS>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:51] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,   sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any
[02:51] <n-iCe>  , done
[02:51] <mrpockets> dude
[02:51] <kittykitty> n-iCe, combine all these commands we're telling you onto one line, i know that iwconfig likes to drop my connection when i set my cards nick or wpa key
[02:51] <mrpockets> so when the 8.* comes out in a few days
[02:51] <keith_> can anyone recommend a good terminal based logging utility to make it easy to monitor the logs for events and network attacks in particular?
[02:51] <mrpockets> will we just need to apt-get the upgrade?
[02:51] <ransom> nm-applet not working?
[02:51] <JMhaha> hi, I need to do a cron to chmod and chown some files on every hour, but ubuntu always request me password (sudo) if I do that. Anyway to skip the sudo or asking password?
[02:52] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  how is the command then? in one line
[02:52] <arvind_k> mrpockets, that should be update-manager -d
[02:52] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  done, nothing
[02:52] <bazhang> mrpockets: aye if you have the rc; otherwise need to update-manager -d then dist-upgrade
[02:52] <ransom> #/ join
[02:52] <guitarthrasher> ha.
[02:52] <mrpockets> rc?
[02:52] <mrpockets> I'm unfamaliar with this RC
[02:52] <kittykitty> iwconfig eth1 essid "INFINITUM8162" key 7464688292
[02:52] <arvind_k> mrpockets, release candidate
[02:52] <mrpockets> kk
[02:53] <bazhang> release candidate mrpockets
[02:53] <mrpockets> I have a cold :(
[02:53] <ransom> ...
[02:53] <arvind_k> bazhang, am faster ;)
[02:53] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  with cuotes? " " ??
[02:53] <kittykitty> yes
[02:53] <ransom> i downloaded fluxbuntu the other day from distrowatch...the iso was corrupt
[02:53] <guitarthrasher> ooooo
[02:53] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  done
[02:53] <guitarthrasher> new look for ze forums
[02:53] <bazhang> arvind_k: as always ;]
[02:53] <n-iCe> and the same, isn't getting them, kittykitty
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> ransom: the fluxbuntu project kind of stalled...
[02:54] <Froto> what was fluxbuntu suppose to be?
[02:54] <ransom> I didnt really see the point
[02:54] <ransom> fluxbox works thru the package manager, w/ tweaks
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> Froto: a lightweight version of ubuntu. faster than xubuntu
[02:54] <arvind_k> Froto, thats aslo a GUI one uses flubox
[02:54] <ransom> fluxbuntu=ubuntu slim +fluxbox
[02:55] <kittykitty> n-iCe, try downloading kwifimanager
[02:55] <n-iCe> ok
[02:55] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, does sudo ifconfig eth1 down && sudo ifconfig eth1 up throw errors?
[02:55] <ransom> fluxbox is the exanded version of the linux oldie blackbox
[02:55] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  ifconfig or iwconfig??
[02:55] <Froto> is that good or bad?
[02:55] <DanikarPN> Froto, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu-based_distributions
[02:55] <ransom> its ifconfig
[02:55] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: what wifi card have you got ?
[02:55] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, or kwifimanager. I can't remember I think you have to do it with ifconfig
[02:56] <ransom> ipconfig for the dos users...
[02:56] <DanikarPN> Froto, It really isn't good/bad easier/harder mostly just preference.
[02:56] <n-iCe> no errors
[02:56] <arvind_k> Froto, its all good...
[02:56] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  broadcom
[02:56] <kittykitty> n-iCe,  you loaded up in gdm ?
[02:56] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, which chipset?
[02:57] <n-iCe> kittykitty, yes and now?
[02:57] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm trying to get my iPod working under Ubuntu. I downloaded Amarok and GTKpod, but neither of them seem to be able to find the music on there. I hope I didn't already screw it up. If I reinit my iPod in one, will it work in the other? because I don't want to do this again.
[02:57] <icesword> !ipod
[02:57] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:57] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks.
[02:57] <h00k> !RockBox
[02:57] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[02:57] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  how can I know I was like 12 hours installing the drivers until I got it work
[02:58] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: its weird how its coming up with eth1 for wifi
[02:58] <h00k> :o I might checkout rockbox. :D
[02:58] <hornet_> ttfn
[02:58] <Froto> Goobuntu=Google ubuntu :D
[02:58] <kittykitty> System -> Adminstration -> Networking , find your wireless card, click properties and do it from there
[02:58] <bazhang> n-iCe: this is the ubuntu kernel right? not the debian kernel you used yesterday?
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, sorry. lspci -vv
[02:58] <arvind_k> Froto, gobuntu is for geeks
[02:58] <Chaotic_Descent> great. first link talks about a 3G iPod Nano. There is no 3G.
[02:59] <Chaotic_Descent> oh, that's generation, not gigabytes.
[02:59] <Froto> well ya but, Goobuntu is googles on non-disturbted os
[02:59] <Seven_Six_Two> MiYaRSTiM, my mom's toshiba satellite uses the madwifi drivers and hers showed up like that too
[02:59] <n-iCe> this Seven_Six_Two ? 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
[02:59] <LSG> Chaotic_Descent: What iPod do you have?
[02:59] <n-iCe> bazhang,   2.6.22-14-generic
[03:00] <n-iCe> kittykitty, still here?
[03:00] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: the DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 port 67 interval xx usually means the signal is hit and miss
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, no, the part with the info on your wifi. it'll say broadcom somewhere.
[03:00] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  ok I see what can I do about it then
[03:00] <bazhang> n-iCe: you replaced the kernel since yesterday?
[03:00] <Chaotic_Descent> I have the 4GB Nano with video. it's silver. got a wide screen.
[03:00] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  late me take a look
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, lspci -vv | grep broadcom
[03:00] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: not necessarily low signal but quality-ish
[03:00] <kittykitty> MiYaRSTiM, thats not correct at all, the DHCPDISCOVER is the broadcast message you send to see if a dhcp server is on your network
[03:00] <Froto> Hiweed chinese ubuntu :D
[03:01] <h00k> Chaotic_Descent, I just opened one of those today, actually
[03:01] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[03:01] <Froto> ubuntu is so cool
[03:01] <h00k> stopped taking a charge.
[03:01] <LSG> Chaotic_Descent: I'm pretty sure it's the same way for every iPod... or are there various methods depending on the model?
[03:01] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  im just "under" the modem
[03:01] <Chaotic_Descent> well, the newer ones seem to be pretty fancy.
[03:01] <n-iCe> I guess quality isn' the problem
[03:01] <tarelerulz> Do you know of  way to convert a movie to the ipod format
[03:01] <LSG> Chaotic_Descent: Wanna try the way i use mine with Amarok?
[03:01] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: what I mean is that when signal is weak comin back from wifi router that exactly what you get
[03:02] <kittykitty> n-iCe, did you find the networking panel ?
[03:02] <Chaotic_Descent> I had to upgrade Ubuntu to Gutsy. looks like I gotta restart.
[03:02] <LSG> Chaotic_Descent: Alright
[03:02] <kittykitty> MiYaRSTiM, thats not correct at all, the DHCPDISCOVER is the broadcast message you send to see if a dhcp server is on your network
[03:02] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, are you using ndiswrapper?
[03:02] <kittykitty> let me repeat that again MiYaRSTiM , that is a messsage YOU SEND not recieve
[03:02] <juannicolas> Hello, I'm trying to install openssh-server and I'm getting an error from dpkg  dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[03:02] <guitarthrasher> correct. kittykitty isnt that madwifi tools?
[03:02] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  yes
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, with the bcmwl5.sys file from XP?
[03:03] <kittykitty> i feel like killing people
[03:03] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  yeah and says no networks found
[03:03] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  yes
[03:03] <LSG> kittykitty: Hey, so do i! =)
[03:03]  * arvind_k kittykitty why?
[03:03] <kittykitty> ok n-iCe you see where you can input your own settings, just fill in the blanks for your network card
[03:03] <Froto> Your opinion, link me to a cool site. I'm bored
[03:03] <bazhang> no bloodshed in the channel please
[03:03] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: so why does it sometimes give you different intervals, varying lines so to speak
[03:03] <kittykitty> and click ok see if it works from there
[03:03] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  there are no options
[03:04] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  I don't get it :|
[03:04] <LSG> bazhang: Not even a little?
[03:04] <Odd-rationale> Froto: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:04]  * arvind_k Froto define cool
[03:04] <MiYaRSTiM> n-iCe: when signal is good i dont see dhcpdiscovers in console
[03:04] <cirkit> is there a way to change the 'splashy' image at boot?
[03:04] <bazhang> MiYaRSTiM: that would be dhcpoffers
[03:04] <kittykitty> n-iCe, i'd suggest just not talking to MiYaRSTiM
[03:04] <MiYaRSTiM> the worse the siganl to noise ratio is, the more lines i get
[03:04] <MiYaRSTiM> aye
[03:05] <MiYaRSTiM> maybe
[03:05] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  the signla must be good im behind the modem
[03:05] <MiYaRSTiM> :d
[03:05] <Odd-rationale> !usplash | cirkit
[03:05] <ubotu> cirkit: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:05] <MiYaRSTiM> you would expect so
[03:05] <n-iCe> MiYaRSTiM,  then?
[03:05] <MiYaRSTiM> mm
[03:05] <bazhang> MiYaRSTiM: the discover is what the computer sends out; the offer is what the computer gets back (if lucky)
[03:05] <cirkit> thnx Odd-rationale
[03:05] <JPSman_> Are the forums down for the switch?
[03:05] <n-iCe> could be a etc/networks/interfaces problem?
[03:06] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, have you tried this?   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/help-needed-with-broadcom-bcm94311mcg-617483/
[03:06] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  the wireless card work in my house it does
[03:07] <VoidedCheck> JPSman, I just started getting forum access again
[03:07] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty,  possibly a wpasuplicant issue, sorr, i'm going through all this with you as I have same issue
[03:07] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  and yes I did that to make it work
[03:07] <VoidedCheck> just a couple minutes ago
[03:07] <bazhang> JPSman_: they did a site redesign iirc
[03:07] <kittykitty> n-iCe if you  know how to edit your interfaces file. you can just edit it by hand, put in your information manually then do the /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:07] <MiYaRSTiM> its me with the disc/off thing
[03:07] <MiYaRSTiM> sry
[03:07] <MiYaRSTiM> its not something as simple as the last char driver thing?
[03:07] <bazhang> MiYaRSTiM: no worries; just wanted to point that out
[03:08] <MiYaRSTiM> last char of essid on some drivers gets screwed
[03:08] <MiYaRSTiM> not so much a driver but how modules pass string
[03:08] <kittykitty> SeaPhor_, i'm actually trying to help n-iCe  but since he's getting help elsewhere, what is your problem maybe i can help you?
[03:09] <JPSman_> and they are down again
[03:09] <MiYaRSTiM> or they gfet recived
[03:09] <JPSman_> bazhang: what is a iirc?
[03:09] <bazhang> JPSman_: if I recall correctly ;]
[03:09] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty,  almost exact same issue, i have been following all steps for over 30 min
[03:09] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  im following you
[03:09] <n-iCe> I did what you told me and isn't working yet
[03:09] <MiYaRSTiM> sometimes last char of essid gets cut so u have to add arbitrary character to end of essid
[03:10] <kittykitty> iwconfig still reports no changes to the wirless settings?
[03:10] <bouma> i just installed a comercial program which wanted some shared libs.. then i added the lib path to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/afile.conf, how do i relode ld.so.cache ?
[03:10] <OlMightyGreek> lol.. i dont understand this. i use an umts card to connect to the inet. i can ping and i can send and receive mails. but a can not surf in the web. dns are properly configured. whats the problem? any ideas?
[03:11] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  nope
[03:11] <bouma> how do i reload ld.so.cache ?
[03:11] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty,  lsh -C network shows my card, and right drivers, i think its a wpa issue but i dont know how to config wpasupplicant
[03:11] <n-iCe> kittykitty,  http://www.asdasdasd.pastebin.com/me116e6a
[03:11] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> can you paste your ifconfig; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[03:12] <slowlearner> hi, whats a good mp3 server for ubuntu?
[03:12] <nonewmsgs> is there a way to reinstall grub haivng it audoect everything like it does at the end of a ubuntu install?
[03:12] <bazhang> mediatomb? slowlearner from what device
[03:12] <bouma> ive been googling, but how do i reload ld.so.cache after manually adding a libpath to ld.so.conf
[03:12] <nick111> hi
[03:12] <Odd-rationale> SeaPhor_: I, personally have tried for hours to get connect to wpa from the cli with wpa_supplicant. But couldn't. My solution was to use network-manager
[03:13] <Odd-rationale> !grub | nonewmsgs
[03:13] <ubotu> nonewmsgs: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:13] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty, ok how i do that>?
[03:13] <slowlearner> bazhang: i don't understand the question.. i just want to server mp3s in my network
[03:13] <slowlearner> bazhang: i don't understand the question.. i just want to serve mp3s in my network
[03:13] <amenado> bouma-> ldconfig
[03:14] <bazhang> n-iCe: and SeaPhor_ you may want to see this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[03:14] <OlMightyGreek> amenado: now i resigned after 6 hours. i put this creepy card back in to its case. im running on wlan again. :( have you got any ideas without the data?
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, are your essid and key the same for a reason?
[03:14] <Stroganoff> slowlearner, you samba shares (windows can stream mp3s from samba), use icecast (http mp3 stream) or vlc
[03:14] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> until you paste the requested info, your guess will be as good as mine
[03:14] <Stroganoff> i mean "use"
[03:15] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  what do you mean
[03:15] <kittykitty> wireless-essid 7464688292 == > this is wrongish, wireless-essid INFINITUM8162
[03:15] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> since you have working connectivity now, compare those results
[03:15] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, yeah  ^^ that
[03:15] <slowlearner> Stroganoff: ok thanks, will try that
[03:15] <chodebucket> stupid folding@home -- they need to have a 32-bit SMP linux version
[03:16] <bazhang> the forums are back up ;]
[03:16] <chodebucket> having to reinstall just to utilize both cores in folding@home
[03:16] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty, i have this guide saved on my desktop, ;-) been at this awhile
[03:16] <Odd-rationale> kittykitty: ok. i only got the tail end of this. is n-iCe wireless working but he cannot connect to his network?
[03:16] <n-iCe> same things isn't working Seven_Six_Two , kittykitty
[03:16] <newbie> need help installing driver for my card... (WG511)
[03:16] <kliwon> hello..i have problem on tun interface.i have modproble tun module but when i'm try to config the tun0 interface got err.i'm using xubuntu 8.04.please help me
[03:16] <OlMightyGreek> amenado: ive noticed that wvdial (i use to connect) sets the resolv.conf every time it connects automatically to the proper dns servers from my provider (i checked multiple times in the net)
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[03:16] <MaNeIRINho> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[03:17] <mutk> MaMove your cat
[03:17] <juannicolas> Hello, Im having some problems with dpkg installing openssh_server: Creating SSH2 RSA key: this may take some time ...ssh-keygen: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3: symbol krb5int_has'_md5, version k5crypto_3_MIT not defined in file libk5crypto.so.3 with link time reference dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure) : subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 Errors were encountered while processin
[03:17] <bazhang> MaNeIRINho: stop please
[03:17] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  yeah
[03:17] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: using ubuntu (gnome) ?
[03:17] <newbie> anyone can tell me how to install prism driver?
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, n-iCe well it seems odd that your ssid is your passord, which is just numbers
[03:18] <prettyricky> Has anyone here been using 8.04 beta and is it better than 7.10?
[03:18] <MEtaLpREs> does 8.04 have better stability right off the bat, or does it just likely have better stability in the future because it will supported longer?
[03:18] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> and when using UMTS?
[03:18] <MEtaLpREs> gutsy has been a little buggy for me, lots of random crashes and lockups
[03:18] <bazhang> prettyricky: aye
[03:18] <mattgyver83> Hi room.  Im having problems with Mozilla Firefox locking up, has anyone else experienced this?  Im using 6.10
[03:18] <VoidedCheck> prettyricky, that's a very loaded question begging for subjective answers
[03:18] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two,  i changed that
[03:18] <prettyricky> ok ty
[03:18] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  yes
[03:18] <RickX> does anyone know of an app/utility that allows a Ubuntu machine to join and log in to a windows domain, besides Samba?
[03:19] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: 7.10 ?
[03:19] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  yes
[03:19] <OlMightyGreek> amenado: it sets automatically the right dns servers. and when i disconnect suddenly the old one appears again. so it should work.  i also tried some free dns servers. same problem
[03:19] <MEtaLpREs> mattgyver83: does it only do it on pages with flash content or on all pages?
[03:19] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: what config files have you edited so far?
[03:19] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, ok. and I don't mean to be patronizing, but my mom turns her wifi switch off to save power, then forgets to turn it back on....
[03:19] <bazhang> n-iCe: how did you replace the debian kernel you were using in a single day
[03:19] <mattgyver83> Meta, both actually, more frequently with Flash pages however.
[03:19] <kliwon> hello..i have problem on tun interface.i have modproble tun module but when i'm try to config the tun0 interface got err.i'm using xubuntu 8.04.please help me
[03:19] <MEtaLpREs> the flash problem is pretty well documented, its an adobe problem, not firefox
[03:20] <Starnestommy> kliwon: what error?
[03:20] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I didn't do it by myself
[03:20] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> what do you think is the problem? un-reliable dns server you are handed off ?
[03:20] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale, Seven_Six_Two , bazhang  http://wefasasd.pastebin.com/m7e2c42ea
[03:20] <bazhang> I'd like to see n-iCe's sources.list
[03:21] <woodwizzle> Is there a good gtk gui frontend for ffmpeg or similar? Basically I want a good gtk app to transcode videos to other formats or resolutions for other devices
[03:21] <tate> Oy, I need some advice about Ubuntu 8.04; I have a projector that can do 1024 but the new Ubuntu locks me at 800; how can I specify a higher resolution with the new xorg?
[03:21] <MEtaLpREs> mattgyver83: its very likely being caused by flash,  you could try disabling or removing flash player and see if it freezes up
[03:21] <OlMightyGreek> amenado: i dont know, dou you think that the dns server of my provider is maybe not working? and i spend 6 hours for nothing? but the free dns server dont work either
[03:21] <kliwon> Starnestommy  : when try ifconfig sudo ifconfig tun0 up
[03:21] <kliwon> tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, that looks fine to me
[03:21] <amenado> OlMightyGreek-> until you paste the requested info, your guess will be as good as mine
[03:21] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: do you have the network-manager applet in the notification area and can you see wireless access points there?
[03:22] <amenado> !hardy | kliwon
[03:22] <ubotu> kliwon: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:22] <n-iCe> bazhang, : http://wefasasd.pastebin.com/m4df8e5b5
[03:22] <OlMightyGreek> ill try tomorrow. thanks for now and good bye
[03:22] <bryton_03> hi! how can i remove then install a new dovecot with default configuration file?
[03:22] <kliwon> owh ok
[03:22] <bouma> sean_: well when i run, ldconfig -v, it lists all the .so's including the path i just added but for some reason its not picking up so i needed
[03:22] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  that's the problem it isn't listing networks and I know there are more than one out
[03:22] <bouma> sean_ any suggestion ?
[03:23] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: the network-manager applet?
[03:23] <kittykitty> the cards that use ndiswrapper don't really like to work correctly with iwlist
[03:23] <bouma> sean_, ldconfig -v, does list all so's ?
[03:23] <bryton_03> it cant be configured with  sudo dpkg --configure dovecot
[03:23] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  I don't know, could be a problem if I am connected using ethernet??
[03:24] <bryton_03> and it gives me errors like this Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:24] <bryton_03>  /var/cache/apt/archives/dovecot-imapd_1%3a1.0.5-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb
[03:24] <bryton_03>  /var/cache/apt/archives/dovecot-pop3d_1%3a1.0.5-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb
[03:24] <bryton_03> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:24] <j2daosh> exit
[03:24] <j2daosh> oops
[03:24] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: so the nm-applet is not showing any wireless access points?
[03:24] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  what's nm-applet
[03:25] <kittykitty> the network management applet i had you open before
[03:25] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: the network-manager applet
[03:25] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  no
[03:25] <n-iCe> is the default one?
[03:25] <bazhang> I had a neighbor who spent two hours trying to get wifi and there were no wifi hotspots
[03:25] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: when you click it. what does it say?
[03:25] <InRainbows> what's the best linux ftp server?  i'm having issues with vsftpd
[03:25] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale, I don't know what applet do you mean
[03:26] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: ok sorry. lets try again...
[03:26] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: do you have a notification area on your gnome panels?
[03:26] <bazhang> Odd-rationale: could this be related to the debian kernel n-iCe was using yesterday?
[03:26] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I reinstalled the os
[03:26] <Odd-rationale> bazhang: didn't heat the problem yesterday.
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> *hear
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> bazhang: what happened?
[03:27] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  yes and I write eth1 then I configure all and says changing devices but nothing happens
[03:27] <bazhang> same as now Odd-rationale
[03:27] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I re-installed the ubuntu, what why it changed
[03:27] <n-iCe> is a new one
[03:27] <bazhang> aha
[03:28] <n-iCe> and why the wireless is working with the other modem
[03:28] <saki> So, what can I do about this xauth error?
[03:28] <Orbixx> How would one patch a driver for a network interface?
[03:28] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: i think were getting each other confused...
[03:28] <bouma> should a program that is verified on gcc version 3.2.2 and glibc-2.2.5-233, work on ubuntu 8.04 ??
[03:29] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  the thing is I want to get the wireless signals
[03:29] <Prez00> is there a way I can see my bios version within linux?  i don't want to reboot just now...
[03:29] <icesword> !hwinfo
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hwinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <icesword> !info hwinfo
[03:29] <ubotu> hwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.35-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 108 kB
[03:30] <Prez00> thanks
[03:31] <m3ltd0wn123> Is there a way i can wait for repaint() to finish? thanks.
[03:31] <nxusr> how do i determin my network number if my ip is  192.168.100.10 and submask 255.255.200.0 ?
[03:31] <bazhang> n-iCe: what is the router make and model
[03:31] <icesword> what？ network number
[03:31] <nxusr> icesword, yes
[03:31] <n-iCe> 2701HG-T Gateway
[03:31] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: next to the volume applet in the panel (top right) do you have a network-manager applet? (note: not the same as network 	monitor	 applet)
[03:32] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  i don't think so
[03:32] <Duke16> olá, Hello
[03:32] <amenado> nxusr-> you know how to AND ff.ff.ff.ff to your ip addr?
[03:32] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: can you poast a screenshot? http://imagebin.ca/
[03:32] <harvey1> can I safely remove evolution / evolution-data-server-common ?
[03:33] <nxusr> amenado ??
[03:33] <harvey1> when I do it marks ubuntu-dekstop to be removed
[03:33] <harvey1> *desktop
[03:33] <amenado> nxusr-> do you know what you are asking for?
[03:33] <Flannel> harvey1: That's correct, and normal, and nothing to worry about.
[03:33] <nxusr> amenado, how do i determin my network number if my ip is  192.168.100.10 and submask 255.255.255.0 ?
[03:33] <harvey1> cool, thanks, just looked scary
[03:33] <Flannel> harvey1: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, you'll need to reinstall it to upgrade, but it's safe to remove.
[03:33] <nxusr> would it be 10
[03:34] <nxusr> ?
[03:34] <SeaPhor_> kittykitty, thanks, but that guide didn't do it, and this a fresh install, will just give up for now thanks for trying!
[03:34] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  http://imagebin.ca/view/0EygjHIz.html
[03:34] <amenado> nxusr-> are you inventing a new name?
[03:34] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: ok
[03:34] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  what do you think if I reboot the modem???
[03:34] <fevel> can anyone help me update to hardy?
[03:34] <fevel> beta
[03:35] <amenado> nxusr-> its called sub-net
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: do alt+f2 and type in "nm-applet" does the applet appear in the panel after that?
[03:35] <nxusr> amenado, can you answer my question?
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: let's try this first...
[03:35] <n-iCe> no it didn't find it, Odd-rationale
[03:35] <amenado> nxusr if you meant subnet, its 192.168.100.10
[03:36] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: didn
[03:36] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  what?
[03:36] <Odd-rationale> find command?
[03:36] <nxusr> how do i determin my network number if my ip is  192.168.100.10 and submask 255.255.255.0 ?
[03:36] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  I mean it didn't execute the command
[03:36] <nxusr> how do i determin my network number if my ip is  192.168.100.10 and subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 ?
[03:36] <nxusr> is it 10?
[03:36] <axisys> nxusr: 192.168.100.0
[03:37] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: what happened? any error message?
[03:37] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  yes I told you, doesn't execute it
[03:37] <nxusr> axisys, and what would the broadcast address be?
[03:37] <n-iCe> I couldn't open the file it didn't find it
[03:37] <axisys> .255
[03:37] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,
[03:37] <axisys> 192.168.100.255
[03:37] <nxusr> axisys, thanks
[03:37] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: hmm. in terminal try, "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[03:38] <axisys> nxusr: np
[03:38] <n-iCe> done Odd-rationale
[03:38] <Lowkey420> Hi I need help installing my wireless.
[03:38] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: try "nm-applet" in terminal this time
[03:39] <n-iCe> done I had that already didn't you see it?
[03:39] <SeaPhor_> if anyone has a rtl2500 wireless card/usb/pci for sale lemme know , i'm tired of tryin to figure out the 8185 i have, and i'm out of time
[03:39] <nxusr> axisys, if my ip is 192.168.100.10 how is my network number not 10  instead of 192.168.100.0
[03:39] <Stroganoff> !wifi | Lowkey420
[03:39] <ubotu> Lowkey420: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <sheep> nxusr: what do you mean by "network number"?
[03:39] <amenado> lol
[03:39] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: you had what already?
[03:39] <axisys> nxusr: because your subnet is /24
[03:39] <n-iCe> that applet
[03:40] <n-iCe> well nevermind, now what's next I already wrote my wireless info there and nothing
[03:40] <nxusr> ok thanks
[03:41] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: ok. well, right click the network-manager applet and select preferences. in the wireless, set it to roaming mode.
[03:41] <SeaPhor_> nxusr: your network # is based on ur net mask,,, if ur netmask is 255.255.255.0 then your network # is 192.168.100.0, if your net mask is 255.255.0.0 then your network  would be 192.168.0.0
[03:41] <n-iCe> there is no wireless manu
[03:41] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,
[03:41] <nxusr> SeaPhor_, it makes sense now, thanks again
[03:42] <mazeman> can I use a 7.10 live CD to fix GRUB on an 8.04 install?
[03:42] <SeaPhor_> nxusr: :-))
[03:42] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  let me restart the modem
[03:42] <Odd-rationale> n-iCe: ok
[03:43] <Orbixx> How do I download the latest kernel source?
[03:44] <Joeseph> I thought I would celebrate really quickly.... Ubuntu works again!!! Xorg stopped eating my CPU randomly! Even though its almost as annoying as the problem that I don't know what caused it
[03:45] <Aldenor> hey, someone plays hattrick here? i need a mannager program for Linux, or help for to run HC or HO
[03:45] <bouma> what version of glibc is 8.04 ?
[03:45]  * Joeseph celebrates by himself
[03:46] <kinicker> I'm having trouble mounting a vcd so that I can burn it. Anyone have experience with it?
[03:46] <amenado> !hardy | bouma
[03:46] <ubotu> bouma: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:50] <berent> i have a directory /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0 on my machine. i dont know when i installed it .now i am unable to get a directory like that no matter what i install ? which package should i install to get it?
[03:51] <xim> where can i put aliases so they will stay there when i reboot?
[03:51] <DanikarPN> .bashrc
[03:52] <xim> ok and i just put the command in there like i was typing it in the shell or what
[03:52] <xim> can i put anything in there like scripts or whatever, is it like autoexec.bat from back in the day
[03:52] <DanikarPN> one sec
[03:53] <DanikarPN> Find these lines
[03:53] <DanikarPN> #if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
[03:53] <DanikarPN> #    . ~/.bash_aliases
[03:53] <DanikarPN> #fi
[03:53] <DanikarPN> Uncomment them
[03:53] <FloodBot3> DanikarPN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <kristjans> err i pressed something and the colours on my screen got inverted!!!
[03:53] <jnetfreshmex> nicotine is failing me. what other options are there?
[03:53] <DanikarPN> Create a file called .bash_aliases and put ur aliases in there like u would in the command line
[03:55] <^Phelipe^> 223
[03:55] <jnetfreshmex> ﻿nicotine is failing me. what other options are there?
[03:55] <cr4z3d> weed
[03:55] <jnetfreshmex> the application i mean
[03:55] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  ok now kwifimanager is detecting like 4 wireless how can I connect know!!
[03:55] <n-iCe> now!
[03:56] <cr4z3d> anyone know how to use the notification-daemon in perl to send a message to the user's desktop? i'm having trouble finding any information.. but i'm probably searching the wrong thing
[03:56] <xim> cool thanks DanikarPN
[03:57] <jnetfreshmex> what other file sharing clients are there for linux?
[03:57] <nonewmsgs> i installed windows to a seperate drive from linux.  i know what drive grub considers my windows drive.  i cannot even boot from bios starting that drive though.  however supergrub does.  how can i take the superway it boots windows and stick it in my grub?
[03:58] <Some_Person> Why is vdrift-data in the repos but not vdrift?!
[03:59] <xim> is there a way to make it so only one instance of evolution will run at a time?
[03:59] <n-iCe> Odd-rationale,  ?????
[03:59] <xim> wihtout modifying the source
[03:59] <black_13> can ubuntu have totally quiet boot
[04:00] <undecim> You mean no splash screen?
[04:00] <black_13> undecim, no text at bootup
[04:00] <joetheodd> I installed libapache2-mod-php5, php5-common, php5, apache2, and apache2.2-common, but when I navigate to http://localhost/phpmyadmin (stock unzip), Firefox prompts me to download the php file. Why is this?
[04:00] <black_13> undecim, after grub nothing till a prompt or xorg
[04:01] <linkinxp> how do i reset the BAR? where is the clock etc?
[04:01] <joetheodd> black_13, I don't think so, as part of that is the linux kernel itself. That's pretty low level stuff.
[04:01] <linkinxp> what command is for seeing process
[04:02] <black_13> joetheodd, you would have to modify the kernel
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> linkinxp, ps
[04:02] <undecim> linkinxp, ps
[04:02] <linkinxp> thanks
[04:02] <linkinxp> ps shows me only TTY2
[04:02] <arooni> i'm looking for software that is like http://www.activewords.com for linux.  (i.e. i type something and hit a key and it automatically replaces my shortkey with some standard text i type very often)
[04:02] <undecim> black_13, i know you can take out splash from the line in grub, but that will still leave a line or two of text
[04:02] <joetheodd> black_13, correct -- i'm not sure if or how well ubuntu supports that. Seems to like its own.
[04:02] <undecim> linkinxp, ps aux
[04:03] <joetheodd> linkinxp, i use ps aux. I'm not sure what those args do individually.
[04:03] <joetheodd> linkinxp, I think ps a is what you're looking for (all?)
[04:03] <black_13> joetheodd, its "own" ?
[04:03] <n-iCe> any wireless manager?!?!?!?
[04:03] <joetheodd> black_13, the linux kernel specifically compiled for ubuntu
[04:03] <joetheodd> black_13, if you're into that low-level stuff you'd probably find another distro more fitting for you. Slack, perhaps?
[04:04] <black_13> or debian?
[04:04] <undecim> n-iCe, try searching for wicd. A friend of mine told me that is the only wireless manager he ever really got to work on his Gutsy laptop
[04:04] <joetheodd> black_13, I think debian is the same deal.
[04:05] <joetheodd> black_13, I never tried it myself, but I'm pretty sure ubuntu will get mad if you take out the kernel that apt provides. You're more than welcome to try it, but I wouldn't personally.
[04:05] <black_13> well to be honest im using debian
[04:06] <black_13> but i was wondering if other distros had made changes to the support apps for the kernel
[04:06] <black_13> such as the initial ram disk or grub or splash
[04:07] <berent> i have a directory /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0 on my machine. i dont know when i installed it .now i am unable to get a directory like that no matter what i install ? which package should i install to get it?
[04:07] <joetheodd> black_13, ubuntu is a fork of debian, so a lot of the stuff will be the same.
[04:07] <black_13> makes sense
[04:07] <bouma> what glibc is ubuntu 8.04 using ?
[04:07] <joetheodd> black_13, i'm not sure if the kernel is "modified", but ubuntu packages it for the system for easy upgrading.
[04:07] <Jordan_U> !apt-file | berent
[04:07] <ubotu> berent: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[04:07] <joetheodd> black_13, do you have an actual need to get rid of that stuff? If it's just asthetics, I'd personally say it's too much work
[04:08] <black_13> well i have been googling for anything that would quiet the bootup process
[04:08] <black_13> joetheodd, i do need
[04:08] <bouma> im trying to use a program which wont load a so it needs, can i get a meaningful error message to at least reassure myself its not because of my mistakes ?
[04:08] <black_13> this is for an embedded device idont want customere or better yet competitors to have idea what is going on under the hood
[04:08] <Jordan_U> black_13, What do you mean by "quiet" it?
[04:09] <black_13> the system boots you see xorg
[04:09] <black_13> thats it
[04:09] <joetheodd> I installed libapache2-mod-php5, php5-common, php5, apache2, and apache2.2-common, but when I navigate to http://localhost/phpmyadmin (stock unzip), Firefox prompts me to download the php file. Why is this?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> black_13, If applicable usplash should do that just fine
[04:09] <black_13> i was working usplash
[04:09] <black_13> and it got close
[04:10] <Jordan_U> black_13, Is this some sort of kiosk?
[04:10] <|kRoNnos|> hi
[04:10]  * black_13 touches nose and points at jordan
[04:10] <berent> Jordan_U: what should be the command apt-file -s  /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0 doesnt show anything
[04:10] <ken__> hallo
[04:10] <|kRoNnos|> i was wondering if someone had any luck compiling mp3cue0.94 for xmms on gutsy 64bit?
[04:11] <otg2> eterteteteeeetetet
[04:11] <woodwizzle> Is there a good gtk gui frontend for ffmpeg or similar? Basically I want a good gtk app to transcode videos to other formats or resolutions for other devices
[04:11] <otg2> hjkjhkjh
[04:11] <Jordan_U> black_13, There may also be a simple way to switch to tty7 early on ( I don't think that any messages are displayed there and that's where the first X session starts by default
[04:11] <otg2> F F F F FGF GF GF FFG FG F GF GF
[04:11] <otg2> FGDFGDGDFG
[04:11] <otg2> DFGDFG
[04:11] <otg2> DGF
[04:11] <otg2> GD
[04:11] <otg2> GDG
[04:11] <otg2> DG
[04:11] <FloodBot3> otg2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <bastid_raZor> has firefox crapped the bed? has been acting weird for a few days.
[04:11] <undecim> joetheodd, I would look into the header information that apache is sending your browser. I'm not too good with web servers, but I find that happening to me some times when I visit sites that aren't very well constructed
[04:11] <bsundsrud> can anyone tell me how to modprobe a module at boot (without resorting to kludgey rc.local)?  I'm trying to modprobe cpufreq_powersave
[04:12] <black_13> Jordan_U, so shunt off the messages to some other place?
[04:12] <black_13> yeah that would be fine by me
[04:12] <joetheodd> undecim, if I had to guess I'd say apache doesn't recognize php as a php file. :-\
[04:12] <joetheodd> High five, Floodbot3.
[04:12] <|kRoNnos|> anyone ?
[04:12] <black_13> Jordan_U, so how would i go about doing that?
[04:13] <Jordan_U> black_13, First thing I would try ( since it's the easiest, though it probably won't work ) would be to remove all tty's but tty7 ( there are many guides on how to do this )
[04:13] <black_13> you mean in the init script
[04:14] <berent> Jordan_U: what should be the command apt-file -s  /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0 doesnt show anything??
[04:14] <graphx> Anyone have experience with KVM?
[04:14] <packet> is this the right channel for Hardy questions?
[04:14] <pclync1> is there a rar compiler for ubuntu?
[04:14] <black_13> change "1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1" to something else?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> berent, Have you done an apt-file update?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> !rar | pclync1
[04:15] <ubotu> pclync1: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:15] <graphx> I hope so .. Cause I have a question for hardy with KVM :)
[04:15] <undecim> joetheodd, I remember having this problem on occasion when I had my own website a while back (before I ran out of money to pay for the server), and I'm pretty sure that it was a problem with headers.
[04:15] <undecim> joetheodd, although, Like I said, I'm not very experienced with web servers
[04:15] <graphx> whats up with the webserver?
[04:15] <packet> the latest updates to come down the apt-get highway look weird
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> im getting this error
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> g++ -o libmp3cue.so mp3cue.o cuesheet.o interface.o ID3tag.o -L/usr/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lxmms -shared
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> /usr/bin/ld: mp3cue.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `mp3cue' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> mp3cue.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:16] <|kRoNnos|> make: *** [mp3cue] Error 1
[04:16] <FloodBot3> |kRoNnos|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <kittykitty> ok screw this, i've delt with this problem like a billion flipping times and it is just escaping me in my old freaking age
[04:17] <kittykitty> how do i get apache / web browser to stop asking me to save the stupid .php output and just display it instead?
[04:17] <berent> Jordan_U: i did
[04:18] <Stroganoff> kittykitty install php5
[04:18] <gogeta>  kittykitty or that catnip!
[04:18] <gogeta> :P
[04:18] <bouma> im trying to use a program which wont load a so it needs, can i get a meaningful error message to at least reassure myself its not because of my mistakes ?
[04:19] <undecim> kittykitty, that is just the problem joetheodd having at the moment
[04:19] <zelrikriando> hello kittykitty
[04:19] <kittykitty> php5 is installed, the output is fine, if i take the time to save it to disk, then rename it to .html instead
[04:20] <jrib> !lamp > kittykitty (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:20] <jrib> kittykitty: follow the troubleshooting section for that problem on the wiki page
[04:21] <berent> Jordan_U: still not able to get the right command!@!!
[04:22] <spork969> whats a good movie making program just to do basic editing and creating, like i have 180 images and i want to turn them into a slideshow with some of them lasting just one second but others lasting like 30 seconds.
[04:22] <quentusrex> what run level does server ubuntu boot to?
[04:22] <quentusrex> or how can I find this out?
[04:22] <slowlearner> spork969: cinerella, kino
[04:22] <undecim> kittykitty, If you just absolutely can't find the answer, I would try getting Live Http Headers  extension for firefox, then comparing the headers with the problematic server and a server that is working fine.
[04:23] <Millertime_018> does n e one know how to emulate windows vista when you have ubuntu on one partition and vista on another?
[04:23] <slowlearner> spork969: hmm, or was it cinerella :(
[04:23] <LARefugee> Millertime_018: Virtualbox.org
[04:23] <undecim> quentusrex, the run levels are:
[04:23] <undecim> 0       Shutdown and halt
[04:23] <undecim> 1       Single-User mode (also S)
[04:23] <undecim> 2       Multi-user without network
[04:23] <undecim> 3       Multi-user with network
[04:23] <undecim> 5       Multi-user with X
[04:23] <FloodBot3> undecim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <undecim> 6       Reboot
[04:24] <jrib> quentusrex: why do you want to know?  ('runlevel' will tell you)
[04:24] <quentusrex> thanks undecim
[04:24] <Millertime_018> yea, but how do i set that up?
[04:24] <gogeta> undecimundecim
[04:24] <gogeta> undecim run3 is x as well now
[04:24] <quentusrex> I'm trying to start an init.d script, but the script needs to have networking available before it's started.
[04:24] <undecim> quentusrex, so that would be run level 5
[04:24] <slowlearner> spork969: ah cinelerra
[04:24] <LARefugee> Millertime_018: Good documentation in the download section
[04:24] <Chaotic_Descent> updating Ubuntu took forever.
[04:25] <quentusrex> so I'm trying to start the script last after everything
[04:25] <spork969> thanks slowlearner
[04:25] <manutd> oi
[04:25] <quentusrex> undecim, even if my server doesn't have any GUI installed?
[04:25] <Millertime_018> is there any way that i can use the partition that its already installed to?
[04:25] <FastZ> quentusrex: ubuntu server boots with runlevel 3 by default
[04:25] <Millertime_018> rather than some "image"
[04:25] <Millertime_018> that i know nothing about?
[04:25] <FastZ> that's multiuser, w/networking without GUI
[04:25] <Chaotic_Descent> for my iPod (3rd gen Nano, 4GB) , according to this website, I need to install some drivers and run a fancy command to get access to it.
[04:25] <Chaotic_Descent> http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[04:26] <Pelo> evening folks  anyone know how to make a CPIO archive ?
[04:26] <FastZ> otherwise it boots with runlevel 5 which is the same as above but w/GUI
[04:26] <LARefugee> Millertime_018: search through the faq or the forums for running an existing windows installation from ubuntu/vbox. It's documented there.
[04:26] <Pelo> !ipod | Chaotic_Descent
[04:26] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:26] <Chaotic_Descent> Yeah. that's where I got the link.
[04:26] <LARefugee> Pelo: man cpio or info cpio
[04:26] <jrib> quentusrex: runlevels 2-5 are identical on ubuntu.  2 is default.  You should read 'man update-rc.d'.  But since ubuntu is switching over to Upstart, it makes more sense for you to read the upstart docs
[04:27] <Pelo> LARefugee, have you read that page ?
[04:27] <jrib> !upstart > quentusrex (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:27] <quentusrex> jrib, I've been reading man update-rc.d
[04:28] <LARefugee> Pelo: try info cpio, there's a tutorial
[04:28] <berent> Jordan_U: where are u
[04:28] <Chaotic_Descent> do I really need to do all that? it wants me to install libgpod-dev, which wants to install a few dozen other things. :S
[04:28] <quentusrex> My goal is to have my server automatically start streaming vlc when it boots. But the problem I'm having is that it starts vlc when it boots, but I can't connect to vlc. It works if I manually start it with /etc/init.d/vlc start
[04:28] <FastZ> who said RL2 is default?  ubuntu server boots under RL3 by default... multiple users, networking, and no GUI
[04:28] <quentusrex> but it doesn't work if I just reboot
[04:28] <Pelo> LARefugee,  my apologies , thank you
[04:31] <Pelo> LARefugee, can you teach me how to navigate an info file ?
[04:31] <drewby> Hello!
[04:31] <Pelo> LARefugee, nevermind
[04:32] <drewby> I have about 700 messages in Evolution that I'd like to redirect (i.e. bounce) to another account.  Any ideas?  The server I downloaded them from is still open so if you know of a client that has this capability by default, I'd be willing to try that out.
[04:33] <quentusrex> sorry, damn compiz froze...
[04:34] <gaspipe1> hey people
[04:35] <gaspipe1> i was just curious
[04:35] <Pelo> LARefugee, thanks , now to try out
[04:35] <gaspipe1> i just installed 7.10 a few days ago
[04:35] <gaspipe1> btw I love it!!
[04:35] <gaspipe1> and I know the next version is coming out in a few days
[04:36] <gaspipe1> does it offer a easy upgrade? or do i need to do a fresh install?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> gaspipe1: upgrades are possible.
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> (actually, pretty darn easy.  backups are still a great idea though)
[04:36] <Zelta> !hardy | gaspipe1
[04:36] <ubotu> gaspipe1: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:36] <gaspipe1> Zelta: ty
[04:37] <gaspipe1> tonyyarusso: TY
[04:37] <TravisBeaty> Greetings, everyone.
[04:38] <drewby> I have about 700 messages in Evolution that I'd like to redirect (i.e. bounce) to another account.  Any ideas?  The server I downloaded them from is still open so if you know of a client that has this capability by default, I'd be willing to try that out.
[04:38] <Ububegin> if a file has HelloWorld.java~ has a "~" at the end, what kind of a file is this :?
[04:39] <drewby> a swap file
[04:39] <Ububegin> drewby: Is it Ok to delete this file...
[04:39] <berent> Jordan_U:  i tried sudo apt-file search jre1.6.0 doesnt give any rsults
[04:40] <drewby> Ububegin: generally yes, but should should make sure all the changes you've made to HelloWorld.java are saved first.
[04:40] <Chaotic_Descent> bash: /usr/bin/ipod-read-sysinfo-extended: No such file or directory
[04:40] <undecim> Ububegin: yes, as long as you have all changes to the file without the ~ saved
[04:40] <Ububegin> drewby: Oh, so once you saved, the ~ sholud disappear... So I could delete it..
[04:40] <caio> oi alguem do brasil?
[04:41] <joetheodd> Ububegin, if you used gedit, it saves the last version of the file as a backup, and adds the ~ to it.
[04:41] <Starnestommy> !br | caio
[04:41] <ubotu> caio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:41] <Ububegin> joetheodd: K, i am gonna use vim in that case then
[04:41] <joetheodd> Ububegin, you can just rm *~
[04:41] <gaspipe1> !flash gaspipe1
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash gaspipe1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <DanikarPN> I think most text editors do it dont they?
[04:41] <shane2peru> hey everyone, just ran through an install with the 8.10 RC for server, and it failed.  I couldn't select what to install LAMP etc.
[04:42] <shane2peru> Any ideas why?  I checked the MD5SUM all checked out fine.
[04:42] <ashziiila> hello friends.
[04:42] <Ububegin> Cheers everyone... for the help
[04:42] <shane2peru> running jigdo now to check out the cd burn.
[04:42] <ashziiila> I'm trying to access a wireless bridge, that's currently wired
[04:42] <Starnestommy> shane2peru: it's still a release candidate
[04:42] <ashziiila> but I want to program the device
[04:42] <Chaotic_Descent> ok. that page on getting my ipod to work tells me to install the libgpod-dev first, and then libgpod2, but I can't uninstall libgpod2 without taking out libgpod-dev.
[04:43] <ashziiila> I've entered the IP address and subnet of the device in the Network Settings options
[04:43] <shane2peru> Starnestommy, yes, that I know, but a fresh download should be fine.  My Beta install went smoother. :)
[04:43] <MEtaLpREs> is there a way to make a link to a trash folder?  when i delete things on ntfs drives it moves it to /.Trash-whatever/  how can i make a link to a hidden folder,  the only way i was able to figure it out caused the files to then delete from that folder back into that folder,  and i know i can just do shift-delete but i want a working trash folder
[04:43] <shane2peru> on a desktop.
[04:43] <ashziiila> but I am unable to connect to the admin index with my web browser
[04:43] <ezack420> people join #sk8t3rs
[04:44] <MEtaLpREs> who the hell spams for a skater channel in a linux channel?
[04:44] <ashziiila> lolz
[04:44] <ashziiila> hey meta
[04:44] <ashziiila> help me out here
[04:44] <joetheodd> !ohmy
[04:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:44] <ezack420> people join #sk8t3rs
[04:44] <shane2peru> has anyone else had any experience with the 8.10 server RC?
[04:44] <ezack420> plz
[04:44] <MEtaLpREs> ashziiila: help you with what?
[04:45] <undecim> join sk8t3rs
[04:45] <MEtaLpREs> no thanks
[04:45] <undecim> not
[04:45] <DanikarPN> Do I get money ?
[04:45] <ezack420> people join #sk8t3rs
[04:45] <Starnestommy> !spam | ezack420 and undecim
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[04:45] <shane2peru> What no Release Candidate testers out there?
[04:46] <MEtaLpREs> apparently smoking all that pot made him think ubuntu was african for skating
[04:46] <DanikarPN> lazy
[04:46] <shane2peru> has anyone else downloaded the 8.10 server Release Candidate?
[04:46] <VoidedCheck> I'm using rc, but I wouldn't call myself a tester  :P
[04:46] <shane2peru> and installed successfully?
[04:46] <VoidedCheck> ah server no
[04:46] <shane2peru> VoidedCheck, did it install ok?
[04:46] <DanikarPN> If I was at work I would test it, but no extra computer here. =(
[04:46] <Chaotic_Descent> why does it tell you to install libgpod-dev before libgpod2, when it says it has to install libgpod2 before it can install libgpod-dev? is that just an error?
[04:46] <shane2peru> VoidedCheck, ah, no, I mean the server edition, oh and 64bit. :)
[04:46] <kuda> I installed 8.10 on a laptop and it worked great, but not as a server.
[04:46] <VoidedCheck> nope just desktop 64 here
[04:47] <ashziiila> yo
[04:47] <ashziiila> who can help me connect to a wireless bridge? :x
[04:47] <shane2peru> kuda, yeah, I got the 8.10 beta installed on a laptop, and seems to work great
[04:47] <shane2peru> kuda, few shutdown issues, that is it.
[04:47] <zero-cool> how can i see who is on network i forgot
[04:47] <VoidedCheck> netstat?
[04:47] <kuda> Thats funny shane, it fixed the ones i was having with 7.10
[04:48] <VoidedCheck> zero-cool gah I hated that movie
[04:48] <shane2peru> kuda, ha ha, it broke mine. :)  Doesn't shut the computer off, just brings the system down.
[04:48] <VoidedCheck> Hackers that is
[04:48] <shane2peru> kuda, I have to hold the off button to get it shutdown. :)
[04:49] <kuda> i'm using the 32 bit 386 version. Don't know if it makes a difference :)
[04:49] <amrik> join #pulseaudio
[04:49] <zero-cool> yes i forgot how can i seewho is on the network
[04:49] <shane2peru> kuda, on the laptop I have the 32bit also.
[04:49] <rbanffy> Hi folks. Is there something like "seq" but for dates. Like "seq 2008-01-01 2008-06-01"
[04:49] <amrik> does anyone know hwo i can reverse the left right speakers?
[04:49] <kuda> yeah, same problem with mine before, i think it was having an issue with acpi, but not sure
[04:49] <shane2peru> ok, no 8.10 64bit server RC users here, perhaps I should file a bug with launchpad
[04:49] <ashziiila> any network gurus around?
[04:50] <undecim> just wondering... is it worth going to 64 rather than 32 bit on my desktop? I've been advised against it by some Unix gurus I know, because they say it doesn't have as much software support.
[04:50] <shane2peru> kuda, that is funny, ohh, before I was using Fiesty, not Gutsy for the same issue I think.
[04:50] <VoidedCheck> sw support on 64bit is not the problem
[04:50] <shane2peru> Gutsy didn't shutdown properly.
[04:50] <VoidedCheck> the problem is driver support
[04:50] <amrik> drivers dude
[04:50] <amrik> its why im here
[04:50] <maxfiles> hi I am trying to figure out how to run 32 bit skype on ubuntu 8.0.4 amd 64
[04:50] <shane2peru> kuda, guess I should file a but then. lol
[04:50] <munk_> can someone help me set up my wireless network with a passphrase encryption? everytime i try it it keeps asking me for the passphrase and then after a while it says it cannot connet...pleasee
[04:50] <amrik> because my sound drivers dont work
[04:51] <maxfiles> am I in the right channel for 8.0.4?
[04:51] <kuda> hmm, what hardware are you running?
[04:51] <VoidedCheck> afaik 64bit ubuntu can run all 32bit sw
[04:51] <shane2peru> kuda, me?
[04:51] <Lowkey420> can someone help me install this: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[04:51] <shane2peru> kuda, running a Toshiba Laptop
[04:51] <kuda> yeah shane, sorry i should have been specified :)
[04:51] <|kRoNnos|> im running 64bit gutsy
[04:51] <|kRoNnos|> no issues so far
[04:51] <undecim> VoidedCheck: ty.
[04:52] <VoidedCheck> it's when you're trying to run 32bit sw in 64bit sw, like flash in firefox, shere things get weird too
[04:52] <shane2peru> kuda, no prob, Toshiba laptop with 8.04 beta 32bit
[04:52] <VoidedCheck> *there
[04:52] <|kRoNnos|> just gotta recompile a couple of things to get it to work with -fPIC
[04:52] <kuda> how old is the laptop and is your bios up to date shane?
[04:52] <amrik> does anyone know how to reverse stereo?
[04:52] <|kRoNnos|> java and flash works fine using resctricted extras
[04:52] <Bidget> hey can anyone point me in the direction of a program that will let me burn video files onto dvds so I can play them in a standard dvd player?
[04:52] <VoidedCheck> but you could always install 32bit firefox and not have that prob  ;)
[04:52] <shane2peru> kuda, um, I don't know nothing about the bios, probably outdated, the laptop is about 3-4 years old.
[04:53] <shane2peru> kuda, probably a bios problem
[04:53] <shane2peru> kuda, can that be fixed without windows?
[04:53] <Lowkey420> can anyone help me install this? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[04:53] <Shadow_X> ok i have a problem with X and nVidia >.>
[04:53] <Bidget> can anyone point me in the direction of a program that will let me burn video files onto dvds so I can play them in a standard dvd player?
[04:54] <VoidedCheck> Bidget, what kind of video files?
[04:54] <vkennedy85> Does anyone know to install and run filezilla?
[04:54] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, umm like avi files
[04:54] <VoidedCheck> avi is just a container
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> !info filezilla
[04:54] <ubotu> filezilla (source: filezilla): Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 827 kB, installed size 2176 kB
[04:54] <VoidedCheck> what codec?
[04:54] <kuda> shane, i would see if there is an update for the bios. As for the update without windows, it depends on the manufacturer. sometimes you can download an image that will boot from a floppy and let you update from there, others that are generally newer want to update from windows.
[04:54] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, ehh....
[04:54] <shane2peru> kuda, if you type shan and hit tab it will finish my username and make it flash on my screen. :)
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> vkennedy85: sudo apt-get install filezilla.  Applications > Internet > Filezilla.
[04:54] <amrnet> is hardy stable yet?
[04:54] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, probably divx, but Im really not sure
[04:54] <Lowkey420> can anyone help me install this? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[04:54] <Shadow_X> i just installed virtualbox, and ran the glx compiz config tool in Ubuntu, and it prompted for a reboot. when I rebooted, X refuses to start, and when I run dpkg-reconfigure x11server-xorg, I get the error that "x11server-xorg" is not installed O.o
[04:55] <kuda> shane2peru, thanks, i'm kind of new to irc :)
[04:55] <vkennedy85> tony: Thanks, feel a little dumb gettin this stuff started
[04:55] <shane2peru> kuda, ha ha, no prob, everyone learns sometime or other.
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> vkennedy85: (or use synaptic or add/remove programs to install it - /msg ubotu software for more info on that stuff)
[04:55] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, divx mpeg 4 version 5
[04:55] <shane2peru> kuda, that is probably why it isn't updated, I don't feel like putting windows on it to update bios. :)  I will check it out though.
[04:56] <Lowkey420> can anyone help me install this? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[04:56] <Waffle> Hey, I am using Gutsy and the top bar of my windows keeps disappearing... the part that has the minimize, resize, and close on it.
[04:56] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, I was using a program called arcsoft showbiz 2 with windows and am wondering if there is a linux alternative or something that I could use
[04:56] <shane2peru> kuda, thanks for the tip on the bios, I will look into later. I'm out of here.  cya.
[04:56] <kuda> shane2peru, yeah the shutting down issue seems to be common when a bios does not fully support the method that is being used to power down.
[04:56] <VoidedCheck> Bidget, I've never had to encode myself on linux, but I was asking because that info might be useful for someone to recommend something
[04:56] <kuda> shane2peru, ok bye :)
[04:56]  * shane2peru is heading for bed.
[04:56] <undecim> Waffle: hit alt-f2 and type "metacity --replace"
[04:57] <undecim> (without quotes)
[04:57] <Waffle> undecim, alt-f2 stopped working too
[04:57] <lofidellity> erv identify avbuddy
[04:57] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, ah I see.... I think most of the files I have are divx mpeg4 although ive just noticed that some are xvid mpeg 4... not sure if there's a big difference between the two
[04:57] <VoidedCheck> good question though, is there something like virtualdubmod etc for linux?
[04:58] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, so that page I keep getting sent to for making my 3rd gen iPod nano work doesn't work at all. http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[04:58] <VoidedCheck> Bidget, there's a big difference
[04:58] <undecim> waffle: I'm not sure what exactly that problem would be then
[04:58] <Lowkey420> can anyone please help me install this? :( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[04:58] <VoidedCheck> xvid has had a lot of development, divx not so much
[04:58] <Chaotic_Descent> it won't let me install those unsupported packages.
[04:58] <corny> I am setting up a computer with a Gutsy 64-bit and a Broadcom BCM94311 Wireless card. I have tried ndiswrapper using several different drivers and have tried bcm43xx-fwcutter with almost every driver available. Does anyone know if changing to 32-bit would help?
[04:58] <Shadow_X> i just installed virtualbox, and ran the glx compiz config tool in Ubuntu, and it prompted for a reboot. when I rebooted, X refuses to start, and when I run dpkg-reconfigure x11server-xorg, I get the error that "x11server-xorg" is not installed O.o
[04:58] <Waffle> undecim, i ran it in terminal now i have the bar and alt-f2 works, everything... thanks for that
[04:59] <Bidget> VoidedCheck, hmm ok
[04:59] <VoidedCheck> divx 6 should be shot...
[04:59] <undecim> waffle, the only downside is you lose all the eye-candy from Compiz
[04:59] <undecim> waffle, are you, by chance using an ATI graphics card?
[04:59] <Waffle> undecim, i'll live without it for 3 days
[05:00] <Bidget> can anyone point me in the direction of a program that will let me burn video files onto dvds so I can play them in a standard dvd player?
[05:00] <undecim> waffle, because in my experience, Compiz and ATI don't like to play nice together
[05:00] <Waffle> undecim, yes, the problem didnt start until i removed some of the advanced desktop effects cause Emerald was sucking up 80 megs of ram
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Bidget: K3B can do that, although I don't have experience doing so.
[05:00] <Bidget> tonyyarusso, K3B you say... I will give that a shot. Thanks man :-)
[05:00] <Waffle> undecim, yeah, I had a problem when i first installed but I was able to get it to go away
[05:00] <Waffle> undecim, I probably won't mess with it and will just use this until Hardy comes out
[05:01] <VoidedCheck> Bidget, maybe this might help?
[05:01] <VoidedCheck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320389
[05:01] <VoidedCheck> though it is a bit text heavy in more ways than one
[05:01] <undecim> waffle, a friend of mine got ATI working well on his by installing a package. I can't remember its exact name but I think it was glx something
[05:02] <corny> I am setting up a computer with a Gutsy 64-bit and a Broadcom BCM94311 Wireless card. I have tried ndiswrapper using several different drivers and have tried bcm43xx-fwcutter with almost every driver available. Does anyone have any other ides to get this wireless card working?
[05:02] <Waffle> undecim, yeah, thats what i had to do too
[05:02] <undecim> corny: its probably the 64-bit that is the problem
[05:03] <corny> undecim: I'll probably try switching to 32-bit. I'd rather have that card working than get the extra speed with all the glitches
[05:03] <kuda> corny, i had success with the broadcom drivers using the restricted driver manager on 32 bit, but i don't have the model of the card i used off hand.
[05:03] <undecim> corny: if you find the windows 64-bit driver and use fw-cutter on it, that should work
[05:05] <corny> undecim: I tried that but fwcutter wouldn't support it. The computer runs vista and I got the driver straight from the vista partition. I also tried a downloaded one of an xp version. neither worked
[05:05] <Lowkey420> can someone please help me install this :(.. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[05:05] <pepeito> hi
[05:05] <gaspipe1> night all
[05:05] <pepeito> /whois n-iCe
[05:06] <linuxs> hi
[05:06] <corny> kuda: did you use the default linux driver with the restricted driver or did you go to one of the other ones?
[05:06] <linuxs> what is your problem?
[05:07] <pepeito> Well why I can connect my laptop to my wireless modem but in my girlfriend house I can't
[05:07] <linuxs> humm
[05:07] <pepeito> I write the wireless network info in the manager, essid pass hdcp but is not connection
[05:07] <Lowkey420> linuxs could you help me too? :/
[05:07] <pepeito> :| why!!!
[05:07] <linuxs> mabye wireless configuration
[05:07] <kuda> corny, i used the default driver. I had less throughput than my equivalent intel card that was natively supported, but it did work.
[05:08] <pepeito> linuxs, of course but I do it well
[05:08] <linuxs> ok
[05:08] <pepeito> what else could be?
[05:08] <Shadow_X> i just installed virtualbox, and ran the glx compiz config tool in Ubuntu, and it prompted for a reboot. when I rebooted, X refuses to start, and when I run dpkg-reconfigure x11server-xorg, I get the error that "x11server-xorg" is not installed O.o
[05:08] <pipsqeek> MAC address filter at your g/f
[05:08] <Kikkomaso> How can I tell where this hard drive is mounted?
[05:08] <Kikkomaso> I mounted "48.8 GB Media" though I have no idea how to access it through the terminal
[05:08] <Kikkomaso> >_>
[05:08] <pepeito> pipsqeek,  I don't think so is the same modem just a newest version if yes, how can I remove the filter? and why in windows isn't a problem??
[05:09] <undecim> Kikkomaso: type mount in a terminal and it should list all mounted drives
[05:09] <linuxs> wireless lan wep key configuration
[05:09] <Alives> I have an smb mount.  If I unmount it (resulting in exit code 0), df doesnt show it, mount doesnt show it, but it still has all the directories in it and is still actually mounted.  How do I fix this?
[05:09] <Kikkomaso> undecim: How do I tell whether it is sdb6 or sdb9?
[05:09] <undecim> Kikkomaso: by default, it should be mounted under /media/[device]
[05:09] <pepeito> linuxs,  same wep key 5796727545 is the example
[05:10] <Lowkey420> can someone please help me install this.. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1637&DwnldID=11780&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng its a wireless driver..
[05:10] <undecim> Kikkomaso: sdb6 would be partition 6 of the second sata drive
[05:10] <linuxs> pepeito, disable wire lan?
[05:10] <miguel> greetings every one
[05:10] <dryeyes> does any one know if 8.04 is more compatable with the tx1000?
[05:10] <Kikkomaso> undecim: I know, but I have both Ubuntu and SuSe on there, causing many partitions D:
[05:10] <linuxs> are you have a ubuntu?
[05:10] <pepeito> linuxs,  what do you mean??
[05:11] <miguel> i'm having a problem with my nvidia card
[05:11] <linuxs> i'm from korean
[05:11] <Lowkey420> can someone please help me install my 2200BG wireless card
[05:11] <miguel> anybodoy knows somthing about it?
[05:11] <undecim> Kikkomaso: well, look for which drive listed from the "mount" command is the right size
[05:11] <maxfiles> I am getting this error when I start skype in 64 bit
[05:11] <maxfiles> ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:11] <maxfiles> how do I fix it
[05:12] <pepeito> linuxs,  yes ubuntu 7.10
[05:12] <linuxs> yes
[05:12] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to get X to stop trying to load GLX extensions?
[05:12] <linuxs> hum
[05:12] <pepeito> by the way how do I enable the title bar it has disappeared
[05:12] <linuxs> pepeito, can you network restart?
[05:12] <miguel> i can't use the correct drivers of my nvidia
[05:13] <dryeyes> does 8.04 fix the wifi problems and the sound issues. and the touch screen
[05:13] <linuxs> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:13] <dryeyes> with the tx1000
[05:13] <n-iCe> linuxs,  I did it didn't work
[05:13] <n-iCe> linuxs,  I am not anymore in my girlfriend house, but I waste 3 hours trying no success
[05:13] <n-iCe> How do I enable the title bar????????
[05:14] <mike-ekim> is there a terminal software that uses very little memory of ram
[05:14] <mike-ekim> something that i can pass an argument to execute a command to it and have lots of instances running of it
[05:14] <undecim> n-iCe: If your windows lost all their borders, hit alt-f2 and type "metacity --replace" (without quotes)
[05:15] <n-iCe> not windows, undecim linux :p buy wyhy is this happening every time i reboot?
[05:15] <solexious> [Q] How can i find out if some thing is in ternal? namly video4linux
[05:15] <solexious> in the kernal*
[05:15] <JPSman> ok wow
[05:15] <undecim> n-iCe: by windows, I meant your linux programs, not the OS.
[05:15] <JPSman> I have been without sound now since gutsy came out, and creative finnally releases the audio drivers and I install them and now my nVidia won't work
[05:16] <Starnestommy> solexious: lsmod | grep video4liux
[05:16] <n-iCe> undecim,  oh, why is this happening everytime I reboot or shutdown the pc???
[05:16] <Starnestommy> er, video4linux
[05:16] <laughzilla> hi :) i just cleaned off an 80 GB, IDE, NTFS formatted data backup drive i have, and now i wanna format and partition it to be a Linux FS (ext2 or ext3) data backup drive in my ubuntu 7.10 box. what's the best way to format / partition such a drive?
[05:16] <solexious> what does that do?
[05:16] <Lunks> How to mount a mac partition read/write mode? I'm not able to using mound /dev/sdax /media/Leopard -t hfsplus -o user,rw
[05:16] <undecim> n-iCe: Probably a problem with Compiz
[05:16] <Starnestommy> solexious: it looks for all kernel modules with "video4linux" in the name
[05:17] <n-iCe> undecim,  I don't use compiz
[05:17] <solexious>  cool, ty
[05:17] <undecim> n-iCe: Well then I honestly wouldn't know
[05:18] <n-iCe> undecim,  ok, how can I set the command to work when ubuntu starts?
[05:18] <legend2440> n-iCe: go to system>preferences>sessions>current session tab is metacity in there somewhere?
[05:18] <woodwizzle> I've set up an SSH server before so that I could SSH into machines on my network, however I've never set up an SSH server so that I could log in when I'm away since I only know my local IP, how can I setup an SSH server on my PC so I can log in from work or anywhere in the world not on my network?
[05:18] <solexious> Starnestommy: didnt return any thing
[05:18] <ToddEDM> hey guys, is there a program similar to iTunes.. besides rhythmbox
[05:18] <undecim> n-iCe: By "don't use Compiz" do you mean you disabled it, or you just haven't install the settings manager for it
[05:18] <ToddEDM> !itunes
[05:18] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[05:19] <theone_> !players
[05:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[05:19] <nrossin> I'm having a problem logging into my account.  When I login, the screen goes black, just a mouse cursor.  No login sound, nothing.  Have tried restarting X.  Any ideas?
[05:19] <theone_> !codecs
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <ToddEDM> would you guys recommend any of them in particular?
[05:20] <crdlb> n-iCe: did you uninstall compiz? (you shouldn't have)
[05:20] <undecim> n-iCe: because if you are using 7.10, then it will use compiz by default unless you specifically disable it
[05:20] <woodwizzle> ToddEDM: Rhythmbox and Banshee are most like iTunes. Banshee has a new version coming out soon which is gonna be awesome. Amarok is probably the most full featured if you want to add crazy plug ins and what not Quod Libet is a good one I use now and again too
[05:20] <n-iCe> undecim,  oh yeah it is there, why
[05:20] <solexious> ;
[05:20] <ToddEDM> woodwizzle: is there any that are able to get podcasts easy?
[05:20] <Flyerfye_> Anyone know why when I connect to a VPN, my internet stops working?
[05:21] <solexious> [Q] how can i add video4linux to ther kernal
[05:21] <Shadow_X> i keep getting "(II) Module already built-in
[05:21] <Shadow_X> (II) Module already built-in
[05:21] <Shadow_X> (II) Module already built-in
[05:21] <Shadow_X> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:21] <Shadow_X> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[05:21] <Shadow_X> "
[05:21] <FloodBot3> Shadow_X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <woodwizzle> ToddEDM: All of the above =)
[05:21] <ToddEDM> ok
[05:21] <nrossin> ToddEDM: I've heard that Songbird handles podcasts very well too.
[05:21] <com4> I've setup quota's, but now I'm wondering how to setup a default quota amount for every new user I add to the system (so i don't always have to edquota -u after an adduser)
[05:21] <SkinnYPupp> woodwizzle: Don't happen to know of a good equalizer do you? Standalone or plugin
[05:21] <woodwizzle> Songbird is nice but a little buggy and resource hungry, got some cool unique features though
[05:22] <woodwizzle> SkinnYPupp: Not that I know of. :(
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, and banshee's GREAT if you want to be drastically limited to how you can organize your collection.
[05:22] <FastZ> Shadow_X: what are you trying to do?
[05:22] <crdlb> Shadow_X: who said it was "x11server-xorg"? it's xserver-xorg
[05:22] <nrossin> woodwizzle: I've never used it myself.  I always get disillusioned when I use anything other than Amarok.
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> nrossin, same.
[05:22] <nrossin> Even with all Amarok's shortcomings, it's still lightyears ahead of all the others.
[05:22] <woodwizzle> nrossin: Amarok is nice, but I prefer GTK apps. I do get jeleous of Amarok's monkeybraiz support though
[05:23] <solexious> [Q] how can i add video4linux to the kernal?
[05:23] <undecim> n-iCe: I can't remember off the top of my head how to disable compiz
[05:23] <Shadow_X> I am trying to get X to actually start up normally, using the NV driver. If I use the nvidia one, it errors saying no suitable screens found. if I use NV, it says failed to initialize GLX extension. all i want is to get X to start O.o
[05:23] <nrossin> undecim: metacity --replace
[05:23] <FastZ> solexious: v4l is already builtin to the kernel i think
[05:23] <crdlb> n-iCe: system > preferences > apearance > visual effects > none
[05:23] <nrossin> I'm having a problem logging into my account.  When I login, the screen goes black, just a mouse cursor.  No login sound, nothing.  Have tried restarting X.  Any ideas?
[05:23] <FastZ> solexious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V4l
[05:23] <undecim> nrossin: metacity --replace works temporarily, but when the computer is restarted, it will go back to compiz
[05:24] <nrossin> undecim: Are you running Gutsy?
[05:24] <joetheodd> I installed libapache2-mod-php5, php5-common, php5, apache2, and apache2.2-common, but when I navigate to http://localhost/phpmyadmin (stock unzip), Firefox prompts me to download the php file. Why is this?
[05:24] <FastZ> solexious: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Main_Page
[05:24] <undecim> nrossin: I'm helping n-iCe fix his Gutsy. His window borders keep disappearing
[05:25] <nrossin> undecim: Ah.  Is he using the Appearance app?  Or running Compiz manually?
[05:25] <n-iCe> undecim,  I don't want to disable it I want to fix the title bears problem
[05:25] <aMoRPHeouS> Hi, is there a way to select packages on install in Ubuntu?
[05:25] <Lowkey420> can someone please help me install my 2200BG wireless card?
[05:25] <googlah> joetheodd: have u tried to restart apache2?
[05:25] <joetheodd> undecim, is he using nvidia? I had to disable compiz (set the pretty features to "none", forgot the technical name)
[05:26] <joetheodd> googlah, no, what's the command for that again?
[05:26] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: No.
[05:26] <supersako> sorry stupid question but is the ubuntu 8.04 on the site the final release? if not will i be able to keep upgrading to the final version?
[05:26] <googlah> joetheodd: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:26] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: Unfortunately, there isn't and probably never will be.
[05:26] <aMoRPHeouS> nrossin: why not?
[05:26] <undecim> n-iCe: the title bars aren't working either because you messed with the compiz settings or compiz just isn't working right
[05:26] <FastZ> joetheodd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-e8ed2e2ff6335c860b38aab7d029cdff0bc6215a
[05:26] <googlah> joetheodd: should be what's needed, cos php5 should be enabled in your case.
[05:26] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: Because they want the installation to be incredibly easy for newbies.  Not a bad goal, but I wish they'd release an "Advanced" installation disc too.
[05:27] <undecim> n-iCe: you could try reinstalling compiz
[05:27] <Lowkey420> can someone please help me install my 2200BG wireless card?
[05:27] <legend2440> n-iCe: go to system>preferences>sessions>current session tab iis compiz in there somewhere?
[05:27] <erat123> is firefox 3 beta going to be placed in the final release of ubuntu 8.04??
[05:27] <nrossin> !wireless > erat123
[05:27] <joetheodd> googlah, no dice. I'll check with FastZ said.
[05:27] <milia> superego, i think not, and logically yes you will be able.
[05:28] <nrossin> erat123: I don't think they'd put beta software in there.
[05:28] <FastZ> Lowkey420: use google son... it's your best friend
[05:28] <aMoRPHeouS> nrossin: yeah, it's a huge pain. I've been using Fedora for a while, but I've become sick of the quick-release cycle (no LTS) and lack of a dist-upgrade feature. I've used Ubuntu before at work, but this one little problem of not being able to choose packages has put me off
[05:28] <FastZ> Lowkey420: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[05:28] <erat123> ﻿nrossin: i've just heard that firefox 3 final release isnt scheduled to be released for another month or two
[05:28] <Lowkey420> FastZ: I can't figure out how to install that :(
[05:28] <n-iCe> undecim,  how
[05:29] <n-iCe> legend2440,  yes
[05:29] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: Yeah, it is a bit annoying.  But it's fairly easy to install/remove packages afterwards.
[05:29] <FastZ> Lowkey420: download this  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipw2200/ipw2200-1.2.2.tgz?download
[05:29] <undecim> n-iCe: Try right-clicking on your Desktop and click change Desktop Background, then go to Visual Effects and choose Non. That should disable Compiz, but I don't know if it will still work after you reboot
[05:29] <ToddEDM> ok, i just installed Amarok ... how do i get it to see my ipod?
[05:29] <aMoRPHeouS> nrossin: yes, but that's counter-productive
[05:29] <nrossin> erat123: Then I doubt they'd include it in Hardy by default.  But you can always still install it.  It's even in the GUtsy repos.
[05:29] <Lowkey420> FastZ: I have it.
[05:29] <n-iCe> undecim,  I don't want to disable compiz
[05:29] <laughzilla> got it :)
[05:30] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: You're preaching to the choir :)
[05:30] <AdrianStrays> I need some help networking with Windows.  I have an external hard drive attached to my desktop, which is running windows. I'd like to be able to access the files off the external hard drive from my laptop, which is running Ubuntu.  I have no idea how to do this.  I go to Network then Windows Networks, but nothing is there.  I've enabled sharing in Windows
[05:30] <aMoRPHeouS> hehe
[05:30] <Ashkore> I have an Ubuntu linux box I try to ssh into it but I get connection refused/hostname unreachable errors,port22isopen i can neither log on over lan through lan ip orexternallythrough my home IP.
[05:30] <nrossin> I'm having a problem logging into my account.  When I login, the screen goes black, just a mouse cursor.  No login sound, nothing.  Have tried restarting X.  Any ideas?
[05:30] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then open a terminal window, cd to where you downloaded the file, type tar -xvf ipw220-1.2.2.tgz
[05:30] <erat123> ﻿nrossin: true.. well, we'll see.  i like it a lot, but it's just buggy, and i know ubuntu 8.04 is supposed to be released in the next few days
[05:30] <aMoRPHeouS> nrossin: is there any way to do a minimal install or something?
[05:30] <undecim> n-iCe: Another option is to install the Settings manager for compiz and then set up the Crash handler plugin for Compiz which would automatically start metacity if compiz were to fail
[05:30] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then type cd ipw2200*
[05:30] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then type ./configure
[05:30] <n-iCe> Where is located modules?? to write the command to execute when the system starts
[05:31] <joetheodd> FastZ, googlah, specifying http://localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php works as intended. Do I need to specify that php is a valid start page or something?
[05:31] <Lowkey420> Ok.
[05:31] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then type make
[05:31] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then type sudo make install
[05:31] <Lowkey420> ok
[05:31] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: You could look into the Alternate Install CD.  I know it offers different installation methods including OEM.  Not sure on the specifics, though.
[05:31] <Lowkey420> ok
[05:31] <aMoRPHeouS> ok, thanks nrossin
[05:31] <nrossin> aMoRPHeouS: Of course, you could also just create your own slipstreamed version of Ubuntu.
[05:31] <Lowkey420> how do I cd to my desktop :(
[05:31] <FastZ> Lowkey420: then reboot
[05:32] <FastZ> Lowkey420: cd /Desktop
[05:32] <erat123> ﻿Lowkey420: cd ~/Desktop
[05:32] <FastZ> oops
[05:32] <FastZ> thanks
[05:32] <AdrianStrays> Can anyone help me?
[05:32] <milia> Lowkey420, cd ~/Desktop
[05:32] <nrossin> FastZ: You mean, cd ~...... yeah, they got ya ;)
[05:32] <ermac0> ubuntu is not buggy, beta releases are...
[05:32] <Lowkey420> :D than
[05:32] <nrossin> !ask | AdrianStrays
[05:32] <ubotu> AdrianStrays: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:32] <Lowkey420> ks
[05:32] <joetheodd> ermac0, "Ubuntu isn't buggy, users are." is more correct imo :P
[05:32] <FastZ> joetheodd: i think the default "home" directory with apache is /apache2-default
[05:32] <SeaPhor> kittykitty, could it be as simple as a bios lan/wlan switching?
[05:32] <AdrianStrays> nrossin, I already asked my question, and no one responded.
[05:33] <erat123> ﻿﻿joetheodd: ha!  i second that
[05:33] <ermac0> joetheodd, user error
[05:33] <FastZ> joetheodd: excuse me, /var/www/apache2-default
[05:33] <ermac0> :)
[05:33] <nrossin> !patience | AdrianStrays
[05:33] <ubotu> AdrianStrays: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:33] <nrossin> :)
[05:33] <t1tz> [05:32] <AdrianStrays> nrossin, I already asked my question, and no one responded.
[05:33] <t1tz> theres your answer, mate
[05:33] <joetheodd> FastZ, yeah, /var/www/apache2-default. I've got the stock unzip of phpmyadmin at /var/www/phpmyadmin, which should equate to localhost/phpmyadmin
[05:33] <KiwiJoker> ubuntu is great, im using slackware, not very impressed with slack
[05:33] <t1tz> fag?
[05:33] <joetheodd> FastZ, and localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php works just fine
[05:33] <joetheodd> !ohmy | t1tz
[05:33] <ubotu> t1tz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:33]  * nrossin is not impressed with coming home from work and finding he can't login to his account in X.....
[05:33] <t1tz> i was offering him a cigarette
[05:34] <FastZ> joetheodd: your apache config consideres /apache2-default as the webserver root
[05:34] <n-iCe> Where is located modules?? to write the command to execute when the system starts
[05:34] <Lowkey420> cd ipw2200
[05:34] <RandyAdams> hello all, is there were i can ask some questions re:hardy ?
[05:34] <Lowkey420> oops
[05:34] <googlah> joetheodd: how is it going?
[05:34] <solexious> [Q] how can i check if a webcam works with linux?
[05:34] <FastZ> joetheodd: you'll have to access /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and make some changes
[05:34] <joetheodd> FastZ, that's not the problem at all. I can open phpmyadmin just fine. It just won't load the index.php file without it being specified
[05:34] <noble-> RandyAdams: #ubuntu+1
[05:34] <nrossin> RandyAdams: #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <FastZ> joetheodd: oh... did you read that wiki I pasted about how to integrate php into apache?
[05:35] <joetheodd> FastZ, if I type in http://localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php it works perfectly, but if I don't type index.php, it gives me the problem -- it asks me to download the PHTML file
[05:35] <joetheodd> FastZ, yeah, thanks for that :)
[05:35] <undecim> n-iCe: rc.local is a script run on boot, but if you are trying to add the metacity command there, It won't work, because there won't be an X server to run it
[05:35] <erat123> ﻿joetheodd: you have to change the DocumentRoot line in your apache2.conf or sites-available/default
[05:35] <FastZ> joetheodd: that's what i used to get my web server to work with php
[05:35] <n-iCe> undecim,  no it is different /etc/modules example I don't remember
[05:36] <FastZ> joetheodd: i had the same problem you are having
[05:36] <googlah> joetheodd: try remove the apache2-default/ lines in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[05:36] <ToddEDM> can anyone help me to get Amarok to see my Ipod?
[05:36] <nrossin> I am no longer able to login to ANY accounts in X.  All I get is a blank screen with a mouse cursor.  It just sits there.  Restarting X hasn't helped.  What's going on?
[05:36] <solexious> [Q] how can i check if a webcam works with ubuntu?
[05:36] <nrossin> ToddEDM: Is it the newest generation iPod?
[05:37] <joetheodd> googlah, that's not the problem at all
[05:37] <ToddEDM> no, old shuffle
[05:37] <ToddEDM> nrossin:  1st gen shuffle
[05:37] <nrossin> ToddEDM: Ah... My old shuffle worked right away.  But you need to tell Amarok how to handle it.
[05:37] <erat123> ﻿ToddEDM: i've tried amarok w/ my ipod and never got it, i switched to gtkpod and it worked.  unless you want to stay w/ amarock, you might want to give it a shot
[05:37] <ToddEDM> i got it free with a cellphone ;)
[05:37] <undecim> nrossin: Try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F2, login and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/ restart
[05:37] <nrossin> ToddEDM: Go to the Amarok settings and then the Devices tab.
[05:37] <undecim> nrossin: Correction: Try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F2, login and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:37] <nrossin> undecim: Is that different from Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[05:38] <Lowkey420> FastZ: PM
[05:38] <Ashkore> whats causing ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:38] <Ashkore> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
[05:38] <n-iCe> Where is located modules?? to write the command to execute when the system starts
[05:38] <Ashkore> all i did was type ls
[05:38] <undecim> nrossin: Yes, GDM is a program that manages the X server in ubunutu. Restarting the X server won't actually restart the program that takes care of the X server, gnome, etc.
[05:38] <nrossin> ToddEDM: It should list a found device.  Just choose the iPod plugin and you should be good to go.  This is all from memory so I'm sorry if some specifics are wrong (I can't get into gnome at the moment)
[05:38] <Ashkore> to see my files and folders inmypwd
[05:39] <erat123> ﻿n-iCe: ~/.bashrc is one place
[05:39] <nrossin> undecim: Ah.  I figured since I had a login screen, that GDM was working fine.  Will give it a shot, though.
[05:39] <Ashkore> whats causing ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:39] <Ashkore> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
[05:39] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: it's a bad setting for that variable.  Try logging out then back in
[05:39] <nrossin> undecim: Nope.  Same issue.
[05:40] <n-iCe> erat123,  it couldn't find the directory
[05:40] <Ashkore> ive already tried rebooting the machine and logging in on different accounts
[05:40] <Shadow_X> any ideas for my issue?
[05:40] <sgrover> Any server experts here?  If not, anyone know what channel I should ask on?  Trying to get MSSQL support in PHP5 via Pear MDB...
[05:41] <Starnestommy> sgrover: tried ##php ?
[05:41] <t1tz> [05:40] <sgrover> Any server experts here?  If not, anyone know what channel I should ask on?
[05:41] <erat123> ﻿n-iCe: ~ is your home directory, so it would be something like /home/﻿n-iCe/.bashrc
[05:41] <t1tz> #masochism
[05:41] <undecim> nrossin: Have you done any hardware upgrades/changes recently or installed anything realted to the X server or gdm?
[05:41] <t1tz> atb!
[05:41] <nrossin> undecim: No.  I just got home from work and my nephew's account was logged in.  I logged him out and boom, I can't get in.
[05:41] <sgrover> Starnestommy: that channel has been dismal for support issues.. :)  This is a Ubuntu issue.  I'll try em though...
[05:41] <redwhitewaldo> ﻿movie files now show just a black window, but sound plays fine. what happened? ﻿movies used to play fine
[05:41] <nrossin> undecim: His account is highly restricted and he's only 7 so I don't think he did anything.
[05:41] <n-iCe> I know erat123  and it is not there
[05:42] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, go in the player preferences and play around with the colour settings
[05:42] <erat123> ﻿n-iCe: huh.. i'm not sure then
[05:42] <n-iCe> erat123,  but that's not the file I want it was something like /etc/modules something like that /apt/modules I don't remember
[05:42] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's with all my players
[05:42] <redwhitewaldo> mplayer, gui-mplayer, totem
[05:42] <nrossin> Pelo: I doubt that's the issue.
[05:42] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, turn off desktop effects
[05:42] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's not on
[05:42] <luckone> Riots in Tibet, China using force to contain  do you agree?>
[05:42] <Pelo> nrossin, I just came in, I start with the obvious
[05:43] <nrossin> redwhitewaldo: I've had that issue before too... had to reboot to fix it.
[05:43] <Millertime_018> hey can someone help me? my terminal just asked me what directory i wanted to install the "binary files". what do i type?
[05:43]  * Pelo wants to know how to make the gnome-splash stay longuer
[05:43] <redwhitewaldo> nrossin: ok. will try so now.
[05:43] <Millertime_018> HELP
[05:43] <Ashkore> isnt this ubuntu support channel not current events channel?
[05:43] <Pelo> Millertime_018, what are you installing ?
[05:43] <redwhitewaldo> nrossin: is  ctrl+alt+backspace the same as reboot in effect?
[05:43] <Millertime_018> vmware
[05:43] <sgrover> Ashkore: seen this going on in other channels... damn bots
[05:43] <undecim> nrossin: hmmm... I don't know.
[05:43] <nrossin> redwhitewaldo: Not really.  But you could try starting with that.
[05:43] <Ashkore> ic
[05:44] <Pelo> Ashkore, depends how bored we are ,  if we are realy bored we do support
[05:44] <bazhang> n-iCe: you get your wireless fixed?
[05:44] <bazhang> Millertime_018: what is the issue?
[05:44] <erat123> ﻿redwhitewaldo: ctrl+alt+backspace only restarts X
[05:44] <Millertime_018> Installing the content of the package.
[05:44] <Millertime_018> In which directory do you want to install the binary files?
[05:44] <Millertime_018> [/usr/bin]
[05:44] <Pelo> Millertime_018, #vmware
[05:44] <redwhitewaldo> erat123: ok. will do a reboot now.
[05:44] <redwhitewaldo> thanks.
[05:44] <Millertime_018> thats it?
[05:44] <FastZ> Lowkey420: i never got a PM from you
[05:44] <Millertime_018> vmware?
[05:44] <Millertime_018> thats all i type?
[05:44] <FastZ> Lowkey420: what did you need?
[05:44] <Ashkore> how can I fix ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:44] <Ashkore> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable?
[05:44] <lecism> nya
[05:44] <undecim> nrossin: try typing "ps aux" in the Alt+F2 terminal
[05:44] <bazhang> Millertime_018: there is a whole run of things to go through, just choose the defaults
[05:44] <Pelo> Millertime_018, why don't you install vmware from the repositoiries ?
[05:44] <nrossin> Millertime_018: He gave you a link to the vmware support channel.
[05:45] <Lowkey420> FastZ: I got an error, check the PM I sent you
[05:45] <undecim> nrossin: actually, just ps a should be fine
[05:45] <n-iCe> bazhang,  it works in my home and I am at home now
[05:45] <nrossin> undecim: Okay, that gave a whole bunch.  What am I looking for?
[05:45] <FastZ> joetheodd: you still around?  i was looking at my php manual and noticed you need to make sure your php.ini script is in the correct place as well as the libphp5.so module
[05:45] <Millertime_018> idk, i'm doing it this way can you just help? i dont know what repositories are.
[05:45] <n-iCe> I don't know why I can't connect it in my gf modem :|
[05:45] <FastZ> Lowkey420: i didnt get a PM from  you
[05:45] <Ashkore> how can I fix ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:45] <Ashkore> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable?
[05:45] <bazhang> n-iCe: so it was fixed? what is your issue now?
[05:46] <nrossin> undecim: I assume I need to discern what it says for tty7?
[05:46] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: does rebooting fix it?
[05:46] <Ashkore> nope
[05:46] <FastZ> Lowkey420: join #fastz
[05:46] <Millertime_018> what directory?
[05:46] <joetheodd> FastZ -- I've gotten everything set up now and cooperating as intended, except I can't just specify a directory and have /index.php loaded
[05:46] <joetheodd> FastZ, but I don't care about that.
[05:46] <Millertime_018> pelo: what directory?
[05:46] <undecim> nrossin: actually, I have a much more efficient way to analyze this
[05:46] <Ashkore> Starne> rebooting did not fix it
[05:46] <FastZ> joetheodd: cool then
[05:46] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I said it wasn't fixes, it works at home, not in her home
[05:46] <n-iCe> fixes > fixed
[05:46] <joetheodd> FastZ, yeah, thanks for the help man, and you too googlah
[05:46] <bazhang> Millertime_018: just choose the ones they recommended
[05:46] <undecim> nrossin:Type:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:46] <n-iCe> Why does it works in my moden and not in her modem
[05:46] <redwhitewaldo> nrossin: restarting doesn't help
[05:47] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  go in menu > system < admin < software sources,  check all the boxes in the top part of the 1st and 3rd tab,  then goto  menu > applications > add/remove and search for vmware,  select and insatll vmware-server and you 'll be done
[05:47] <nrossin> Millertime_018: You need to understand that Linux is not Windows.  It's usually not easy (or recommended) to just download a program's file and double click it to install software.  Do some research on repositories... it's the Linux way of installing new software.
[05:47] <bazhang> n-iCe: likely because she has a hidden essid
[05:47] <nrossin> undecim: Done.
[05:47] <FastZ> joetheodd: no problem man
[05:47] <undecim> nrossin: then type "sudo X"
[05:47] <Millertime_018> oh thanx nrossin, didn't know that
[05:47] <n-iCe> bazhang,  she has not I can connect using windows os
[05:47] <bazhang> nrossin: very nicely said
[05:48] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: what;s the output of "echo $LS_COLORS"?
[05:48] <undecim> nrossin: and then I will either give you some errors and die, or it will show you the broken X server again.
[05:48] <joetheodd> FastZ, yeah, a buddy of mine is having me make a wordpress mod to put a stock ticker at the top. I told him it's a 30 minute job and he's like "okay, I'll pay you $25 for it." so I figure, hey, whatever.
[05:48] <Ashkore>  a huge list of stuff
[05:48] <joetheodd> FastZ, but I can't do it without chips and salsas, so I'll have to make a kitchen run ^_^
[05:48] <undecim> nrossin: If you get the X server, Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc it
[05:48] <Ashkore> Starne> A really really long list of stuff
[05:48] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: pastebin it
[05:49] <nrossin> undecim: Yep.  Broken X server... but not a black screen, a patterned grayscale screen.
[05:49] <bazhang> n-iCe: so what is the issue now?
[05:49] <FastZ> joetheodd: gimme some of them chips and salsa...
[05:49]  * kindofabuzz gives FastZ
[05:49] <Ashkore> no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.t
[05:49] <joetheodd> FastZ, hope you like e-food. /serve
[05:49] <n-iCe> bazhang,  how can I connect the laptop in her modem!
[05:49] <joetheodd> Ashkore, woah, I don't speak Russian. :-\
[05:49] <Millertime_018> well what do i do about the half-way installed vmware? anything?
[05:49] <FastZ> joethetodd: works for me
[05:49] <FastZ> joethetodd: less fattening
[05:49] <Millertime_018> pelo: what do i do about the halfway installed vmware?
[05:49] <bazhang> n-iCe: no, I mean the apt/modules you were talking about a few minutes ago
[05:49] <Ashkore> yob tvoru mat!
[05:49] <nrossin> undecim: Okay.  Attempting to restart it, the last line it spits out is about some FreeFontPath refcount.
[05:50] <Pelo> Millertime_018, ignore it
[05:50] <Ashkore> vyje ravmos koro stovnete tovaruisch! :)
[05:50] <Millertime_018> just close it? will it hurt anything?
[05:50] <sgrover> For reference:  If you are after server specific questions you can try #ubuntu-server  (just found it myself)
[05:50] <bazhang> !ru | Ashkore
[05:50] <ubotu> Ashkore: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[05:50] <Pelo> Ashkore, what is it you are trying to do , code in python ?
[05:50] <undecim> nrossin: X shouldn't come back from this Ctl+Alt+Bkspc, because GDM isn't there
[05:50] <Pelo> Millertime_018, just close it , nothing will get damaged
[05:50] <Aces|> Anyone use the GMail Screenlet?
[05:50] <Ashkore> Im pastiing my LS_COLOR enviroment variable as Starne asked
[05:50] <nrossin> undecim: So what am I looking for then?
[05:51] <n-iCe> bazhang, ah when I reboot the title bar jsu dissapear
[05:51] <bazhang> Ashkore: then please do that and spare us the russian
[05:51] <undecim> nrossin: now try typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:51] <Ashkore> the russian as a joke when someone said "I do not speak Russian ashkore"
[05:51] <Millertime_018> ... when i did the other option it said that vmware player cant be put on my machine because of the vendor decided not to support my computer
[05:51] <nrossin> undecim: No go.
[05:52] <bazhang> Ashkore: but some of us do; and this is english only
[05:52] <Millertime_018> pelo: should i continue with the terminal?
[05:52] <Pelo> Millertime_018, just kill the terminal
[05:52] <Millertime_018> well i cant get it installed using the add/remove applications
[05:52] <Ashkore> Starne> When I do echo $LS_COLORS I get all the stuff I pasted earlier
[05:52] <Pelo> Millertime_018, whatisyour machine ?
[05:52] <bazhang> Millertime_018: you want vmware-server not player
[05:52] <Millertime_018> i have an acer laptop
[05:53] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  you won'T be instaling vmware player you'll be isntalling vmware server
[05:53] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: run the command in http://pastebin.com/m6c7b44ae
[05:53] <Millertime_018> vmware-server is not an option thats listed in the add/remove
[05:53] <n-iCe> bazhang,  any idea?
[05:53] <bazhang> Millertime_018: you need to install the canonical partner repos in your sources list
[05:53] <undecim> nrossin: okay... well then at the alt + f2 prompt, try ps a, and look for something like "login-window" ( can't remember the name)
[05:53] <Millertime_018> well how do i do that ?
[05:53] <Pelo> Millertime_018, .... pay attention
[05:53] <bazhang> n-iCe: running compiz? what theme do you have
[05:53] <Millertime_018> ok
[05:53] <Millertime_018> i will
[05:53] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  go in menu > system < admin < software sources,  check all the boxes in the top part of the 1st and 3rd tab,  then goto  menu > applications > add/remove and search for vmware,  select and insatll vmware-server and you 'll be done <
[05:54] <hao> hello
[05:54] <n-iCe> bazhang,  it cmes by default in ubuntu 7.10
[05:54] <bazhang> hello hao
[05:54] <n-iCe> so I don't know
[05:54] <nrossin> undecim: There is nothing about a login window.  The only line pertaining to "login" it tty6 (which is where I am now, running irssi)
[05:54] <Millertime_018> they already are checked
[05:54] <crdlb> n-iCe: please join #compiz-fusion
[05:54] <bazhang> n-iCe: using compiz right?
[05:54] <Pelo> Millertime_018, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[05:54] <n-iCe> bazhang,  I guess, as I said it comes with ubuntu 7.10
[05:54] <bazhang> n-iCe: listen to crdl -b
[05:55] <undecim> nrossin: okay, well when gdm starts, there should be a process for the login
[05:55] <Millertime_018> 7,1
[05:55] <Millertime_018> **7.1
[05:55] <Ashkore> Starne> I ran the command but I still get the same error when I run 'ls'
[05:55] <brand0con> little help with my firefox anyone.  cant start it bc it claims the process is running.  though the process isnt running under my system monitor or when i ps fu -u username
[05:55] <nrossin> undecim: There isn't.  Not listed by ps a.  But tty7 does list a very long string of stuff about gdm.
[05:55] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  let's try it this way ,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,  use the search button ,  search for vmware
[05:55] <bazhang> n-iCe: he knows everything about compiz
[05:55] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  you'll want the package called vmware-server
[05:56] <Millertime_018> ok
[05:56] <bazhang> brand0con: does top show it running
[05:56] <Millertime_018> if its not in there i still have the terminal running
[05:56] <brand0con> top?  u mean in a task manager
[05:56] <latitu> how can i install a bnc ?
[05:56] <brand0con> no
[05:56] <brand0con> ive restarted and it still responds the same way
[05:56] <Pelo> Millertime_018, it should be there, speciialy if you remembered to enablet the repos in the 3rd tab as well
[05:56] <strtok> hello, has anyone here gotten the ATI drivers for a radeon HD 2400 to work? everytime i try to boot the system if freezes and restarts itself
[05:56] <bazhang> brand0con: if you type top in the terminal it will show if it is running
[05:56] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: try running dircolors
[05:56] <brand0con> ok
[05:57] <undecim> nrossin: try this: ps a | grep "tty7"
[05:57] <brand0con> no firefox in top
[05:57] <Pelo> latitu, repos,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[05:57] <n-iCe> crdlb,  hi
[05:57] <Ashkore> k it gives me a whole lot of stuff ending in export ls_colors
[05:57] <undecim> nrossin: That should give you stuff only running where the X server is
[05:58] <nrossin> undecim: Yeah, it listed the same line.  Is it possible to copy/paste in the terminal like this?
[05:58] <harvey1> strtok: I dont think its the exact card I have, are you installing heron?
[05:58] <brand0con> bazhang: any other ideas
[05:58] <nrenco> hi all
[05:58] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: now try running ls
[05:58] <latitu> Pelo then what?
[05:58] <brand0con> ive reinstalled firefox and tried ff3b5 and no luck
[05:58] <nrenco> I wanted to know if someone would help me using the OEM installer of ubuntu
[05:58] <Pelo> latitu, use the search button and look for what you want
[05:58] <harvey1> I just used a failsafe session, installed all the updates, then after the updates the restricted drivers installed and I could use a normal session
[05:58] <Ashkore> ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:58] <Ashkore> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
[05:58] <latitu> Pelo i dont see any app named bnc
[05:59] <bazhang> brand0con: this is gutsy?
[05:59] <Ashkore> same issue
[05:59] <brand0con> xubuntu gutsy
[05:59] <undecim> nrossin: Are you running irc in the GUI terminal on another machine or is this the machine that you are fixing that you are running irc from?
[05:59] <crdlb> n-iCe: hi, please come to #compiz-fusion
[05:59] <brand0con> eee pc
[05:59] <Pelo> latitu, what is bnc ?
[05:59] <latitu> Pelo psybnc... dont you know?
[05:59] <nrenco> hello?
[05:59] <strtok> harvey1: i've had the issue with 7.10 and 8.04
[05:59] <nrossin> undecim: I'm running irssi from tty6 on the broken system.
[05:59] <Ashkore>  
[05:59] <Pelo> latitu, if I knew I wouldn'T ask , what is psybnc
[05:59] <brand0con> bazhang: shouldnt make a difference really
[05:59] <kbrosnan> brand0con: try looking athttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
[06:00] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: run "dircolors" again, but opy its output then paste it into the terminal
[06:00] <brand0con> thx
[06:00] <Starnestommy> *copy
[06:00] <bazhang> brand0con: eeepc hmm; got one myself and occasionally will check their channel--have you tried running firefox from the terminal as well
[06:00] <latitu> Pelo some ircd thing. keeps on 24/7 . you connect to it when you want. stays your nick online. you pay for it.
[06:00] <undecim> nrossin: Well, i don't know of any way to copy text across terminals like that.
[06:00] <brand0con> ok thx again
[06:00] <latitu> Pelo eggdrps. psybnc.. etc
[06:00] <strtok> harvey1: i'm using the fsglx drivers or whatever -- system freezes on boot
[06:00] <VoidedCheck> pay for it...
[06:00] <Pelo> Starnestommy, just curious what are you and Ashkore doing ?
[06:00] <strtok> it's an optiplex 755 from dell
[06:00] <harvey1> ah k, then sorry, beyond me
[06:01] <nrossin> undecim: Give me a second and I can just write it out...
[06:01] <nrenco> I wanted to know if someone would help me using the OEM installer of ubuntu please?
[06:01] <Starnestommy> Pelo: trying to fix a weird bug with ls and the LS_COLORS environment variable
[06:01] <Ashkore> k i did that, copy everything dircolors spat out and then pasted it
[06:01] <Millertime_018> pelo: went to the synaptics package manager, and typed in the vmware and its not there, i have the tabs checked in the other part
[06:01] <Pelo> latitu, google for it ,  get a .deb package if you can,  other wise get the source. if it's a windows app use wine to install it
[06:01] <GBGames> Is this the right channel to ask about Ubuntu's implementation of gcc, or is there an ubuntu-dev channel?
[06:01] <Ashkore> but i still gives me the ls unparseable error
[06:02] <koro> Ashkore: did you talk to me???
[06:02] <Millertime_018> does anyone know what init directories are?
[06:02] <Pelo> Millertime_018, that's very odd, I've been running mvware-sever for over a year and I installed it in 7.04
[06:02] <nrossin> undecim: /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[06:02] <Waffle> latitu, i thought you connected to BNC's
[06:02] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  /etc/int.d
[06:02] <bazhang> Millertime_018: did you sudo apt-get update after checking the new tabs?
[06:03] <Millertime_018> no
[06:03] <n-iCe> whats the beryl channel again?
[06:03] <Waffle> latitu, it has been a while since I've heard of or known much about bnc's, but i thought the point was you connected to them so that you could turn your comp off but have IRC bots running still
[06:03] <Millertime_018> i didn't
[06:03] <Ashkore> koro i was talking to starne although if you have any advice I am happy to hear it
[06:03] <undecim> nrossin: okay, I think that the problem is with your login manager
[06:03] <n-iCe> bazhang, ?
[06:03] <bazhang> Millertime_018: best do that then first
[06:03] <undecim> nrossin: not your X server or gdm
[06:03] <crdlb> n-iCe: #compiz-fusion :)
[06:03] <koro> Ashkore: you said my name
[06:03] <koro> what language was that you were speaking?
[06:03] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion n-iCe
[06:03] <nrossin> undecim: Have a solution? :)
[06:03] <Millertime_018> adam@Millertime-PC:~$ apt-get update
[06:03] <Millertime_018> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:03] <Millertime_018> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:03] <Millertime_018> adam@Millertime-PC:~$
[06:03] <bazhang> koro russian
[06:03] <Pelo> Millertime_018, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=vmware
[06:03] <koro> koro is a word in russian?
[06:04] <nrossin> undecim: Or even just the cause?  It was obviously working the last time someone logged in because I had to log them out when I got home.
[06:04] <bazhang> Millertime_018: sudo first
[06:04] <Pelo> Millertime_018, close add/remove and synaptic
[06:04] <n-iCe> thanks
[06:04] <nrenco> I wanted to know if someone would help me using the OEM installer of ubuntu please, the thing is that everything works out but the additionnal settings that I add such as wallpaper, default firefox homepage and some documents are lost after next time I log on after the oem prepare command
[06:04] <Ashkore> I repeated a line from Call of Duty 4
[06:04] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:04] <Aces|> Anyone use the GMail Screenlet?
[06:04] <bazhang> cya pelo
[06:05] <Ashkore> Starne I did as you asked but it didnt do anything
[06:05] <undecim> nrossin: I can't come up with anything at the moment. The only way's I know of causing something like this requires root access
[06:05] <Millertime_018> sudo apt-get update command was not found
[06:05] <pclynch> can anyone help me with win4lin pro? i need to change the ram size and don't know how :\
[06:05] <Millertime_018> had synaptics closed
[06:05] <Starnestommy> Ashkore: when did this problem start happening?
[06:05] <bazhang> Millertime_018: sudo apt-get update
[06:05] <Ashkore> a couple of days ago
[06:05] <Ashkore> after not using my server for a while
[06:05] <nrossin> undecim: Yeah... my nephew most definitely didn't have that.
[06:06] <zero> hey, anyone know of a DAA to ISO conversion program for ubuntu?
[06:06] <Shadow_X> i think i solved my problem >.>     kinda sorta...at least
[06:06] <nrossin> undecim: Would reinstalling the login manager be a viable solution?
[06:06] <Millertime_018> ok now i do... what look in the synaptics manager again?
[06:06] <JohninLex> I just done a update and there was a file that was installed and I have never heard of it.  does anyone know what seahorse is???
[06:06] <nrossin> zero: You know, if you were to google "daa to iso linux" you'd like find a solution at the top :)
[06:06] <undecim> nrossin: I wouldn't know. I think that it is linked with the rest of the Core xorg/gdm packs though
[06:06] <Ashkore> when i logged  on a cple days ago the first time i did ls it spat out that eror, it still does ls, but nno colors :(
[06:07] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install vmware-server Millertime_018
[06:07] <Ashkore> daa2iso
[06:07] <nrossin> undecim: Hmm.  I've found in the past that, like Windows, often all I have to do to fix a problem is reboot.  Was hoping not to have to do that, but I guess it's worth a shot.
[06:07] <Millertime_018> adam@Millertime-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install vmware-server
[06:07] <Millertime_018> Reading package lists... Done
[06:07] <Millertime_018> Building dependency tree
[06:07] <Millertime_018> Reading state information... Done
[06:07] <Millertime_018> E: Couldn't find package vmware-server
[06:07] <FloodBot3> Millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Millertime_018> sorry
[06:07] <bazhang> Millertime_018: then apt-cache search vmware
[06:08] <joetheodd> Is there any way to use more and grep together to find what file a line is in? I'm working with more * | grep "function wp_head", but it just shows the line, not which file.
[06:08] <nrossin> bazhang: I just did... the package IS vmware-server.  He's having a repo issue.
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> isn't that in multi?
[06:08] <bazhang> Millertime_018: this is gutsy
[06:08] <Ashkore> some other way to reinstall ls or the LS_COLORS thingy?
[06:08] <Millertime_018> umm. version 7.1
[06:08] <nrenco> I wanted to know if someone would help me using the OEM installer of ubuntu please, the thing is that everything works out but the additionnal settings that I add such as wallpaper, default firefox homepage and some documents are lost next time I log on after the oem prepare command
[06:08] <nrossin> undecim: I'll try rebooting. I really appreciate your help, though.  Thank you.
[06:08] <bazhang> Millertime_018: make sure it is canonical partner repo you enable--double check please
[06:08] <JPSman> HELP! my screens are disobeying me
[06:09] <bazhang> nrossin: aye thanks for the sharp eyes
[06:09] <nrossin> JPSman: Spank 'em.
[06:09] <undecim> nrossin: Uggh... rebooting linux.... it hurts me a little on the inside, but true, worth a shot
[06:09] <joetheodd> JPSman, you need to be more specific.
[06:09] <DanikarPN> JPSman, orly
[06:09] <joetheodd> JPSman, I agre with nrossin.
[06:09] <nrossin> undecim: I dual boot with XP (I'm a gamer) so I'm used to it :)
[06:09] <bazhang> JPSman: that is a funny help request
[06:09] <joetheodd> nrossin, cedega ftw.
[06:09] <Millertime_018> i did and i ran the other command, search for vmware and it didn't work
[06:09] <undecim> nrossin: Well, sorry i couldn't get to the bottom of the problem
[06:10] <joetheodd> Guys, don't be so hard. We all asked ambiguous questions at one time!
[06:10] <nrossin> joetheodd: Ah.  Cedega.  Wine on PCP-laced steroids.  Stay away.
[06:10] <JPSman> my nvidia graphics drivers are all screwy now
[06:10] <bazhang> Millertime_018: please pastebin your sources.list
[06:10] <izinucs> Millertime_018, you have to get vmware server from vmware.
[06:10] <joetheodd> JPSman, nvidia = the source of all evil. And I'm proof-reading before I type this, using my MX4000. :P
[06:10] <JPSman> after installing the creative soundblaster X-Fi 32 drivers
[06:10] <zeno_> this is any open source software that can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY ?
[06:10] <nrossin> izinucs: vmware server is in the repos, actualy.
[06:11] <JPSman> They were working just fine before, and the sound card drivers some how scrambled the video drivers
[06:11] <bazhang> zeno_: likely yes; please dont paste youtube here
[06:11] <node357> JPSman: where do you find X-Fi drivers for Ubuntu?
[06:11] <zero-cool> have anybody using wmii
[06:11] <zero-cool> ?
[06:11] <Millertime_018> i've got vmware from vmware and it took me through all kinds of complicated stuff
[06:11] <bazhang> Millertime_018: you all set then? I am about to leave..
[06:11] <JohninLex> I just done a update and there was a file that was installed and I have never heard of it.  does anyone know what seahorse is???
[06:11] <JPSman> node357: http://opensource.creative.com
[06:11] <node357> JPSman: thank you!
[06:12] <zero-cool> i using wmii
[06:12] <zero-cool> and i making conky
[06:12] <JPSman> Node357: do you have x-fi?
[06:12] <pclynch> anyone using win4lin?
[06:12] <Millertime_018> well no, but i can't exactly keep you here
[06:12] <zero-cool> in gnome conky work good
[06:12] <zero-cool> but in wmii not
[06:12] <Starnestommy> JohninLex: it's a gnome frontend to GPG, the GNU Privacy Guard
[06:12] <Millertime_018> thanx. can you tell me where the What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)?
[06:12] <Millertime_018> [/etc]
[06:13] <Creationist> undecim: This is nrossin - I'm not in Konversation after a reboot.  Go figure :)
[06:13] <andrei`> hi. for some reason, i cant seem to be able to install ubuntu on my new system. i get a constant stream of "ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen cmd a0/00:00:00:24:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 pio 36 in status: { DRDY }
[06:13] <Millertime_018> What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)?
[06:13] <Millertime_018> [/etc]
[06:13] <Starnestommy> Millertime_018: /etc/rc?.d and /etc/init.d/
[06:13] <bazhang> Millertime_018: you have a repo issue, so pastebin the sources.list for someone to look at--I'll be back later if they cant help you out with this really simple problem (not possible really)
[06:13] <JohninLex> Thank you Starnestommy
[06:13] <Starnestommy> JohninLex: the ? is either S or a number between 0 and 6
[06:13] <zeno_> bazhang: ok; why not tho?
[06:13] <Creationist> undecim: I mean I AM in Konversation
[06:13] <Creationist> oops
[06:13] <zero-cool> i don't know what is it
[06:14] <zero-cool> in ubuntu conky work fine
[06:14] <bazhang> zeno_: this is a support channel not a youtube channel
[06:14] <zero-cool> but in wmii not
[06:14] <zeno_> bazhang: it was a linux software question
[06:14] <zeno_> relavent
[06:15] <JohninLex> Starnestommy I have no idea what that is either still kinda of new to ubuntu ( all of linux os )
[06:15] <DanikarPN> zeno_: im watching it, no it isnt
[06:15] <bazhang> zeno_: it is a quick way to get kick/ban if ops are around
[06:15] <zeno_> w/e a video is a good way to convey what it does, if you dont like it dont watch it
[06:15] <bazhang> zeno_: dont paste it here
[06:16] <Millertime_018> how do i pastebin my sources list?
[06:16] <zeno_> bazhang: sorry i doubt thats an actually rule
[06:16] <zeno_> actual*
[06:16] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:16] <bazhang> zeno_: try it again
[06:16] <Creationist> !douchebag | zeno_
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about douchebag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <zeno_> this is any open source software that can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY ?
[06:16] <sanclio> www.ubuntu.it
[06:16] <Creationist> Hmm... someone needs to add that one
[06:17] <JohninLex> gn8
[06:17] <Creationist> zeno_: You have successfully guaranteed that you will NOT get any help here.  Leave now.
[06:17] <bazhang> zeno_: please stop
[06:17] <Millertime_018> http://pastebin.ca/992868 is where my software sources are at
[06:17] <Millertime_018> !!!
[06:17] <zeno_> Creationist: just because you dont have an answer doenst mean its not a good question
[06:18] <Starnestommy> zeno_: can you describe what it does in words?
[06:18] <bazhang> !ot | zeno_
[06:18] <ubotu> zeno_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:18] <DanikarPN> zeno_: it is an irrelevant question to the subject of this chat.
[06:18] <JPSman> what does sudo -i do?
[06:18] <Creationist> zeno_: First of all, the grammar in your question is ridiculous.  Second, the answer is no.  There is no open-source solution for you.
[06:18] <undecim> Creationist: sorry, I was reading some web pages. Im back
[06:19] <zeno_> sure; although a picture says 1k; it takes a song and breaks the chords down into their individual notes; so that you can change their pitch, volume, tone etc
[06:19] <Millertime_018> bazhang: i've got my souces in pastebin
[06:19] <zeno_> like a midi but for a full recording
[06:19] <undecim> Creationist: any luck
[06:19] <Millertime_018> bazhang: http://pastebin.ca/992868
[06:19] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Okay... you don't have the Partner repos enabled (look at lines 44 and 45... see the # at the beginning?  That tells the software to ignore that line)
[06:19] <Millertime_018> how do i undo it?
[06:19] <krastavitzi> anyone know how to get dvorak keyboard + deadkeys?
[06:19] <Creationist> undecim: I'm in Gnome after a reboot... no problem :)
[06:20] <JPSman> what the hell are meta modes and why were they not a problem before?
[06:20] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Close gedit.  THen type this in the terminal:  gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:20] <zeno_> DanikarPN: weather there is software for a specific purpose for ubuntu is irrelavent for #ubuntu?
[06:20] <bazhang> Millertime_018: you need to disable the cdrom as a software source, and enable the canonical partner repos (lines 44 and 45)
[06:20] <zeno_> Creationist: there may be none, but maybe you just dont know of it
[06:20] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Once that opens up, go down to those two lines and remove the # at the beginning. Then save the file. Let me know what that's done.
[06:20] <bazhang> !coc > zeno_
[06:20] <undecim> Creationist: ok, glad it worked out. About time for me to get some sleep. Good night
[06:21] <Creationist> undecim: G'nite and thanks again.
[06:21] <flaccid> im confused about why on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft#head-b0e3758f63e95125f2aad3ef50efcec48df67b00 it asks to install wine from a dif repos when it is in ubuntu already. anybody know why?
[06:21] <DanikarPN> zeno_ ur just in here to cause havoc, not ask a legitimate question. That is why it is irrelevant.
[06:21] <Millertime_018> you want me ot remove lines 44 and 45?
[06:21] <Millertime_018> creationist: ?
[06:21] <Creationist> Millertime_018: No.
[06:21] <zeno_> bazhang: good job attacking the asker/question rather than just saying "i dont know"
[06:21] <bazhang> Millertime_018: just the # marks
[06:21] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Just remove the "#" at the beginning of those lines.
[06:21] <flaccid> it appears in universe already...
[06:21] <flaccid> !info wine
[06:21] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[06:21] <zeno_> DanikarPN: incorrect i asked a simple question, and was attacked
[06:21] <Creationist> bazhang: SOrry, did I take over your case? :P
[06:22] <Aces|> Anyone use the GMail Screenlet? Mine does seem to work correctly.
[06:22] <bazhang> Creationist: no way haha
[06:22] <Creationist> zeno_: No, you were asked not to post YouTube links and you got an attitude and posted it again just to spite a regular volunteer here.
[06:22] <bazhang> zeno_: last warning
[06:22] <m1r> hello
[06:22] <zeno_> Creationist: i also posted a textual description
[06:22] <zeno_> and i dont see anything banning video in the COC
[06:23] <Creationist> zeno_: Ugh... you bore me.  Go... hold your breath forever.
[06:23] <cvd-pr_> where are the main ubuntu servers located?
[06:23] <Millertime_018> ok removed and saved
[06:23] <zeno_> bazhang: for?
[06:23] <Millertime_018> bazhang: now what?
[06:23] <bazhang> Millertime_018: and add a # in front of cdrom
[06:23] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Who do you want help from? lol
[06:24] <Millertime_018> idk anyone!
[06:24] <m1r> i installed openbox from ubuntu repositroy , but i cant get no option to shutdown PC without loging out, can anyone help ? sudo shutdown -h now seems not working
[06:24] <zeno_> cvd-pr_: a whois says isle of man
[06:24] <cvd-pr_> ?
[06:24] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Do what bazhang said.  Add a "#" to the beginning of the first line.  Save again.
[06:24] <equa> hi
[06:24] <w00tNix> help, is there a channel i can go to for gaming related stuff?
[06:24] <Millertime_018> what number is the cdrom thing that you want me to do? cuz there's like -
[06:24] <Millertime_018> first line you say?
[06:24] <bazhang> cvd-pr_: depends where you live really
[06:25] <Creationist> Millertime_018: After that, close gedit and type this in the terminal: sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Yes, the first line.... starts with "deb cdrom"
[06:25] <equa> <noob here to learn linux
[06:25] <Millertime_018> did it and saved it, now what?
[06:25] <n-iCe> !compiz
[06:25] <zeno_> cvd-pr_: One Circular Road Douglas  Isle of Man IM1 1AF GB
[06:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:25] <user0423> good evening, question: how do i change the default init level in ubuntu? (or prevent gdm from starting)?
[06:25] <Creationist> Millertime_018: sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <bazhang> someone should kick zeno
[06:25] <Millertime_018> man i know i'm  a drag on yall askin yall for absolutely everything!
[06:25]  * Creationist kicks zeno_.
[06:25] <Creationist> :)
[06:26] <zeno_> Creationist: i asked a q and then helped someone
[06:26] <zeno_> lol if you kick for that
[06:26] <bazhang> Millertime_018: now sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <Millertime_018> i did
[06:26] <Creationist> bazhang: Already had him do that... now go sit in a corner :P
[06:26] <equa> is there a noob channel for learning linux?
[06:26] <Millertime_018> and then sudo apt-get install vmware-server?
[06:26] <bazhang> now apt-cache search vmware
[06:26] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Now, yes.
[06:26] <zeno_> equa: here
[06:26] <bazhang> Creationist: oh sorry ;]
[06:26] <m1r> equa , ubuntu-classrom
[06:26] <equa> ok just making sure
[06:26] <m1r> equa , ubuntu-classroom
[06:27] <equa> did not wana get permabanned lol
[06:27] <zeno_> nah noone gets permabanned except for crapflooding or somesuch dont worry
[06:27] <bazhang> equa if you have a question here is the best place to ask
[06:27] <equa> well for starters i loaded the latest ubuntu distro and i am a diving into it
[06:28] <zeno_> !ask > equa
[06:28] <Millertime_018> whoa no its really weird going to pastebin
[06:28] <Creationist> equa: You may even get bombarded by two people with an answer.... one quicker than the other, of course ;)
[06:28] <bazhang> back in a bit folks have to step out for a moment
[06:28] <flaccid> anybody know why wine doco on wiki asks to use a dif repos when wine is in universe already?
[06:29] <zeno_> Creationist: or you may just be threatened with banning by non-ops
[06:29] <Millertime_018> http://pastebin.ca/992877
[06:29] <m1r> how to be able to shutdown PC from openbox session without having to logout every time ?
[06:29] <Millertime_018> creationist: did pastebin at http://pastebin.ca/992877
[06:29] <Creationist> !attitude | zeno_
[06:29] <ubotu> zeno_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:30] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Okay.  Try running this:  sudo apt-get install -f
[06:30] <zeno_> Creationist: reading logs should show im not the one /w attitude =p
[06:30] <zeno_> m1r: sudo shutdown (maybe)
[06:30] <Creationist> Millertime_018: That will attempt to fix any broken dependancies (programs that are required by other programs in order to run - much like a game depends on DirectX in Windows)
[06:31] <m1r> zeno_: sudo asks for password so i cant use it as shutdown script :/
[06:31] <Millertime_018> ok http://pastebin.ca/992880
[06:31] <Millertime_018> for the fix broken packages
[06:32] <Millertime_018> creationist: isn't there an easier way to install vmware?
[06:32] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Your difficulties are rare :)
[06:32] <m1r> Millertime_018: yes there is, install virtualbox
[06:32] <Millertime_018> yea... cra
[06:32] <Creationist> Millertime_018: In fact, I just tried to install it and had no issues.
[06:32] <zeno_> m1r: that brings up a good question; if theres a program that requires sudo that you want to run in a script, is there a way to have it not require a password?
[06:32] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Try running the install command again.
[06:33] <user0423> question: how do I stop gdm from starting at login?
[06:33] <equa> what ever happened to beryl the desktop enviroment is there anything similar?
[06:33] <Millertime_018> sudo apt-get install vmware-server?
[06:33] <Creationist> equa: Beryl merged with Compiz.
[06:33] <m1r> zeno_: i am trying to figure that out whole night
[06:33] <Creationist> equa: It is now known as Compiz Fusion.
[06:33] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Yes.
[06:33] <Millertime_018> still, broken packages
[06:34] <zeno_> user0423: i did it; required editing some config file i can find if you need badly and noone else knows
[06:34] <m1r> zeno_: when i try run script for shutdown openbox, only this works: openbox --exit
[06:34] <m1r> zeno_: and that is same like logoff
[06:35] <m1r> but shutdown/reboot just dont go
[06:35] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Well, unfortunately I can't reproduce the problem here, so there is some strange issue going on there.
[06:35] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Can you try pastebin your sources.list again?
[06:35] <Millertime_018> what should i do
[06:35] <Millertime_018> yea wats the get souces command again
[06:35] <zeno_> m1r: try adding it and the user to the sudo config file
[06:36] <rat32> would tar -czvf foo.tar *.txt tar and compress files into foo.tar without deleting them ? i need to compress some files but i dont want tar to delete them
[06:36] <Creationist> Millertime_018: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <zeno_> this is any open source software that can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY ?
[06:36] <m1r> zeno_: i was thinking of that , /etc/sudoers , but ... do i really want normal user there ?
[06:36] <user0423> zeno_: i'd surely appreciate that
[06:36] <zeno_> user0423: ok ill go turn on my ps3
[06:37] <user0423> lol
[06:37] <zeno_> (thats the machine i did it with)
[06:37] <Millertime_018> Creationist: http://pastebin.ca/992883
[06:39] <Creationist> Millertime_018: Hmmm... that all looks right.  Unfortunately, we've reached the limit of my knowledge.  But now you know that you CAN install vmware.  Just start asking about how to fix the broken dependencies issue.  See if anyone else can help you with that.  I've got to head to bed.  Good luck.
[06:39] <Millertime_018> ok
[06:39] <Millertime_018> does anyone know how to fix broken dependancies?
[06:42] <raevol> hey peeps, i upgraded to hardy heron, and emerald seems to have been reverted to metacity for my window manager. is there any way i can gracefully fix that?
[06:42] <Waffle> !hardy | raevol
[06:42] <ubotu> raevol: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:42] <raevol> thanks, sorry
[06:42] <Waffle> good luck
[06:43] <bazzieb> hi there, i have 2x 500gig SATA HDD and i want to share them on my network, all OS's on the network is Microsoft. How do i go about doing this??
[06:43] <zeno_> user0423: once gdm is stopped update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[06:43] <bazzieb> maybe a step-by-step guide? please
[06:44] <Waffle> Millertime_018, I'm not sure, but this might help you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#head-7d9acf78affa92a48849d27c6056d31e796c9a13
[06:44] <zeno_> bazzieb: i think samba handles that
[06:45] <bazzieb> zeno: so if i use a SAMBA guide i should be able to it?
[06:45] <thinkingfrog> hello
[06:45] <_MaxPower_> bazzieb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:45] <thinkingfrog> <---new to Ubuntu
[06:45] <bazzieb> sweet
[06:45] <bazzieb> ty
[06:45] <Waffle> Hey thinkingfrog
[06:46] <UDIN> SURABAYA
[06:46] <thinkingfrog> hey Waffle
[06:46] <thinkingfrog> I've spent a lot of time trying to get my Nvidia card to use the nvidia driver (instead of nv)
[06:46] <thinkingfrog> anyone else have experience with this?
[06:46] <Waffle> !nvidia | thinkingfrog
[06:46] <ubotu> thinkingfrog: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <Waffle> have you checked that out?
[06:47] <thinkingfrog> actually, my first question, is why should I do it?
[06:47] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: better performance?
[06:47] <giesen> why the heck are the repos so slow right now?
[06:47] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, I've got an ATI card and use the "restricted" drivers because i get better performance from them
[06:47] <giesen> I'm getting like 1.5 KB/s right now
[06:47] <giesen> for 8.04
[06:48] <thinkingfrog> better performance, even in web browsing?
[06:48] <thinkingfrog> better 2D performance?
[06:48] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, i got better performance in the way of window movement and that kinda stuff
[06:48] <gogeta> giesen close to relse day
[06:48] <Waffle> i think it depends on the manufacture... i can't remeber, someone else might be able too, but I want to say that you do get better 2D performance even
[06:49] <giesen> you'd think it'd be on release day that it's slow
[06:49] <jords> thinkingfrog : and 3d is muuuch better
[06:49] <giesen> but maybe a whole bunch of people are installing RC
[06:49] <giesen> and then doing the upgrade on release day
[06:49] <giesen> like I am
[06:49] <jords> they need a apt torrenting system....
[06:49] <thinkingfrog> Waffle:  then I better get to work on it
[06:49] <PedanticSteve> I downloaded RC today so I dont have to fight the crowds o Thursday
[06:49] <gogeta> giesen i think all the rcs get updated to final a few days befor
[06:49] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: if you want much better 2d performance maybe try another WM like fluxbox or enlightenment
[06:49] <giesen> gogeta: ah
[06:49] <dale> I installed hardy herdon, its been fine for a few days
[06:49] <jords> I'd seed
[06:50] <thinkingfrog> WM = window manager?
[06:50] <giesen> yeah I just bought a new 320 GB drive for my laptop
[06:50] <zeno_> yeah
[06:50] <giesen> to replace my quite-stuffed 100 GB
[06:50] <giesen> so I installed 8.04 on it
[06:50] <dale> today I done some updates, and when I logged in, my taskbar and the one at the top was missing
[06:50] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  so gimp performs less well then the ones you've mentioned?
[06:50] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  sorry, Gnome
[06:50] <Waffle> dale, can you hit alt-f2?
[06:50] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: it uses up tons more resources
[06:51] <giesen> I see the really annoying synaptics touchpad bug is still present though :/
[06:51] <dale> alt+f isnt doing anything
[06:51] <zeno_> the WM may be fast enough, but it has alot of extra stuff
[06:51] <giesen> that was the thing I was really hoping was fixed
[06:51] <dale> +f2
[06:51] <zeno_> (and thats with compiz OFF)
[06:51] <Waffle> dale, open terminal then type "metacity --reset"
[06:51] <Waffle> wait
[06:51] <Waffle> dale dont do that
[06:52] <dale> ok
[06:52] <Waffle> you said you're on hardy now? join #ubuntu+1
[06:52] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  should it work as good as XP on a 900mhz thunderbird with a Geforce2 GTS?
[06:52] <Waffle> dale, im not sure about the changes between gutsy and hardy
[06:52] <thinkingfrog> I'm on gutsy
[06:53] <zeno_> enlightenment or fluxbox would both work much faster than XP; also kde might be a bit faster as it doenst use compiz
[06:53] <Waffle> dale, metacity --reset fixed that problem for me on gutsy, but it took away compiz...
[06:53] <thinkingfrog> Waffle:  there isn't a section on 7.10 on the link you sent me
[06:53] <zeno_> (but still not as quick as the first 2
[06:53] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, the 7.04 and later part is what you'll want
[06:53] <thinkingfrog> zeno_: what is compiz?  is it a process?
[06:54] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, System - Administration - Restricted Drivers. But if you want good performance, listen to zeno_
[06:54] <thinkingfrog> it isn't listed when i run top
[06:54] <zeno_> !compiz | thinkingfrog
[06:54] <ubotu> thinkingfrog: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:54] <jords> thinkingfrog: compiz is a program that gives you fancy animations and effects on your desktop
[06:54] <zeno_> basically it does all the cool 3D effects
[06:54] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  is there a way to disable it?
[06:54] <drivetrax> yah RAD, too
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> zeno_: configure Ubuntu to be just as fast?
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> I'll read up on it
[06:55] <m1r> thinkingfrog: xubuntu might be better if u want speed
[06:55] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- I got wobbley windows.. I can shake them all over
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> oh, is this how people make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X?
[06:55] <thinkingfrog> all fancy and what not?
[06:55] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: system, adminsration, desktop effects
[06:56] <drivetrax> 3d cubes
[06:56] <jords> thinkingfrog: much fancier than mac os x
[06:56] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I'd rather not reinstall the operating system
[06:56] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: sudo aptitude install fluxbox (or xubuntu-desktop)
[06:56] <zeno_> no need =p
[06:56] <m1r> thinkingfrog: openbox ;)
[06:56] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> ThinkingFrog - one of the ways. It's the general graphical bells-and-whistles system. Add Avant Window Manager for a deskbar
[06:56] <zeno_> you can even choose which from GDM
[06:57] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I see
[06:57] <n-iCe> where can I add commands to execute when X starts???
[06:57] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  where do I tell Ubuntu to start Fluxbox instead of Gnome?
[06:58] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I don't see a desk affects under system -> administration
[06:58] <dale> k, cant seem to get any other suggestions
[06:58] <dale> ill try metacity reset
[06:58] <Waffle> dale, good luck
[06:58] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: maybe prefs im not actually on gnome :(
[06:59] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: click on the paper like thing, click session, click fluxbox
[06:59] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  prefs.. advanced desktop
[06:59] <thinkingfrog> n-ice:  I believe it's in preferences, let me find it again
[06:59] <dale> reset isnt an option
[07:00] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- be aware, there are a ton of settings to make the 3d effects come to life
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> n-ice:  Preferences -> Sessions
[07:00] <equa> how do i install flash in my firefox browser, i have no idea how to do installs with linux :(
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> I won't consider 3d settings until I get the nvidia driver installed
[07:00] <Waffle> !flash | equa
[07:00] <ubotu> equa: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:00] <thinkingfrog> I couldn't get it to work even with Envy
[07:00] <laith> Hi, every one
[07:01] <thinkingfrog> hi laith
[07:01] <n-iCe> thanks thinkingfrog
[07:01] <laith> I had my CCNA last thursday
[07:01] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  you're welcome :)
[07:01] <Waffle> dale, again this is what i did in Gutsy, did you try "metacity --rest"?
[07:01] <n-iCe> thinkingfrog,  do you know something about wireless? :p
[07:02] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  sorry, I'm using a hard line
[07:02] <laith> I wanted to share my study method cause I found it very helpful
[07:02] <drivetrax> thinkingfrog:  -- ubuntu seems to KNOW my ati card is in the box.. and is pulling drivers for it.. and I did go download again to install drivers for the ATI, but all this Advanced settings will work with your pc.. thing is, the other installs for compiz-fusion may need the video card
[07:02] <thinkingfrog> n-iCe:  but on my mom's computer, there wasn't a problem with the wireless nic driver, it found the wireless network
[07:02] <zeno_> equa: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:03] <laith> I found this site www.gns3.net which is the official site for the gns3 application, which is IOS emulator for Linux
[07:03] <thinkingfrog> I need a better chat client, gotta' hide all the enters and exits...
[07:03] <thinkingfrog> man, I got a lot to do
[07:03] <drivetrax> zeno_:  tell how to download from the flash website
[07:03] <zeno_> thinkingfrog: konversation does that for me, but it needs KDE libs
[07:03] <will_> I keep getting the error ¨could not find usable proxy configuration script¨ when I open ktorrent.  Anyone have a clue?
[07:03] <zeno_> if your okay with that
[07:03] <n-iCe> thinkingfrog,  the problem is this, my wireless can connect to my modem but I tried other modem and didnt  work
[07:04] <laith> there is ubuntu prebuild package
[07:04] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  what are different about the modems?
[07:04] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  let me install fluxbox, then we'll talk...I'm sure there's a chat client for Gnome
[07:04] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  model I guess mine is 2WIRE and the other is the newest version, but could linux preffer modems??
[07:04] <laith> once you have an IOS, you can emulate it on a virtual router or firewall PIX
[07:05] <Waffle> thinkingfrog, i use xchat
[07:05] <dale> woo, got it working
[07:05] <thinkingfrog> brb, need to get a power cable for this other system
[07:05] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  ports.. i think
[07:05] <dale> gnome-panel was missing
[07:05] <zeno_> Waffle: can it hide join events?
[07:05] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  how can I solve it?
[07:05] <will_> I Googled my head off and cant find anything
[07:05] <laith> that is all
[07:05] <n-iCe> why ports?? you meant channel?
[07:06] <Waffle> zeno_, I am sure it can... its customziable with python scripts
[07:06] <laith> thank you friends
[07:06] <kc> when y'all get done with that, i have a question about x11 forwarding and i'm not even sure how to google about it: i ssh -Y from my hardy box into another box (fedora) and try to run firefox. i get firefox running on my local machine, not the remote machine. is ubuntu trying to outsmart me?
[07:06] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  well. I would recheck the modem ports.. yes, channels
[07:06] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  ok I will check it tomorrow, more ideas?
[07:07] <n-iCe> I will set the same port that I am using in this modem right now, channel 6, so you mean port same as chanenl right?
[07:07] <drivetrax> be sure the network config does not change somehow.. with a different modem
[07:07] <zeno_> Waffle: i meant outta box =p
[07:08] <slowlearner> kc: lol, means your probably not connected to the remote machine when you issue the command
[07:08] <cvd-pr> where is my  channel operator status?
[07:08] <zeno_> (doubt thinkingfrog wants to edit scripts)
[07:08] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  DSL modems have firewalls in them.. and a way to use a browser to connect to the modem.  make settings for ports and access
[07:08] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  well I use the gnome manager the one is set by default what could change?
[07:09] <kc> slowlearner, thanks but i'm pretty sure i'm not that tired. prompt shows other hostname and ifconfig shows ip info expected on remote machine
[07:09] <Waffle> zeno_, hold on lemme try
[07:09] <thinkingfrog> zeno_:  I do actually, just need time
[07:09] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  my user name changed suddenly.. yesterday.. lol, I dunno
[07:09] <thinkingfrog> right now I need to open up this cd drive, since I left the Ubuntu cd inside it after I removed it
[07:09] <n-iCe> drivetrax,  oh
[07:09] <n-iCe> ok drivetrax  channel, what else
[07:10] <Millertime_018> hey i'm back
[07:10] <Millertime_018> vmware-server:
[07:10] <Millertime_018>  Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[07:11] <drivetrax> n-iCe:  specific information on the modem model will help you
[07:11] <Millertime_018> i've got vmware-server in my synaptic terminal
[07:11] <slowlearner> kc: now that would be something..
[07:11] <Millertime_018> but i cant installit
[07:12] <Millertime_018> help!
[07:12] <Waffle> Millertime_018, not sure if this will help, but you might check it out
[07:12] <Waffle> Millertime_018, forgot to include the link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#head-7d9acf78affa92a48849d27c6056d31e796c9a13
[07:12] <kc> woah! so i did have firefox running on my local box also. when i quit that, now i get firefox from the remote machine as expected. perhaps its not ubuntu, but firefox3 itself that was detecting and thinking i just wanted it to give me another window
[07:12] <kc> still thats freakin weird
[07:13] <zeno_> firefox 3 open with thing stopped working; hmmm
[07:13] <Millertime_018> Waffle: i got vmware to show up
[07:13] <Millertime_018> and its in my synaptic package manager
[07:13] <Millertime_018> but see, i cant install it-
[07:14] <Millertime_018> vmware-server:
[07:14] <Millertime_018>  Depends: libstdc++5 (>=1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[07:14] <thinkingfrog> brb
[07:14] <kc> it works the other way too. now that firefox is running on the remote machine, attempts to run firefox command on the local machine result in another firefox window launched from the instance on the remote machine
[07:14] <Millertime_018> hey whats the fix broken packages command in ubuntu?
[07:15] <Millertime_018> its like apt-get ...-f or something
[07:15] <slowlearner> kc really weird dude
[07:15] <Millertime_018> what is it?
[07:15] <Waffle> Millertime_018, that is what the link i sent you was about
[07:15] <Waffle> Millertime_018, but it was using the GUI interface
[07:15] <slowlearner> Millertime_018: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:16] <Waffle> Millertime_018, did you update your apt-get?
[07:17] <Millertime_018> no not yet
[07:17] <Waffle> Millertime_018, try sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <prohna> compiz fusion was working correctly for me until i upgraded to 8.04 the other day now it has weird glitches with windows not repainting themselves correctly
[07:18] <Waffle> prohna, are you on hardy now?
[07:18] <prohna> especially if i minimize a window that was infront of that window
[07:18] <bazhang> cvd-pr: doubt you have chan ops in this channel ;]
[07:18] <prohna> Waffle: yes
[07:18] <Waffle> !hardy | prohna
[07:18] <ubotu> prohna: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:18] <zach__> im on 8.04 and stuck at 800x600  and when i enable the restricted drivers then i restart and they arent enabled?
[07:18] <zeno_> hardys really good
[07:18] <prohna> sorry
[07:18] <zeno_> less bugs than gutsy for me 2 months ago
[07:19] <amidaniel> Heron's coming out in 2 days??
[07:19] <Waffle> amidaniel, yup
[07:19] <zeno_> ah didnt know nice
[07:19] <amidaniel> Gahh .. I just finished upgrading all my machines to Gutsy :P
[07:19] <Waffle> just means youre efficient at it now
[07:19] <zeno_> amidaniel: i think you just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:20] <amidaniel> Waffle: Hehe :)
[07:20] <bazhang> zeno_: nearly correct
[07:20] <amidaniel> zeno_: That is the claim of course :)
[07:20] <Waffle> Millertime_018, did the apt-get update help?
[07:20] <amidaniel> zeno_: Unfortunately getting things *working* isn't always so easy :)
[07:20] <zach__> how do i fix resolution problems in 8.04
[07:21] <Millertime_018> i did. i went did apt-get update
[07:21] <drivetrax> How I do Ardour - with apt ?
[07:21] <zeno_> amidaniel: yeah i probably wont try with my PS3
[07:21] <zeno_> too much wierd stuff ive done that might break
[07:21] <Waffle> Millertime_018, does the vmware install now?
[07:21] <Millertime_018> no...
[07:23] <zach__> is there a reason my restricted drivers arent sticking at restart?
[07:24] <zeno_> zach__: check in system (pref or admin) restricted drivers manager
[07:24] <zeno_> make sure they are in there
[07:25] <lancerock> Hi all
[07:25] <zeno_> this is any open source software that can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCjv4_jqAY ?
[07:25] <Waffle> Millertime_018, not sure what to tell you, but ive gotta get to sleep
[07:25] <drivetrax> How to get ardour into ubuntu?
[07:25] <lancerock> What's gonna be the big difference if u just DL a nightly build of Ubuntu now as apposed to waiting the 2 days to get the new version?
[07:25] <gogeta> dialcrap soo that whont help
[07:26] <ushimitsudoki> drivetrax: i used a .deb from getdeb.net
[07:26] <thinkingfrog_> it's cool in Ubuntu Linux, I can unplug my ps2 keyboard, and plug it in later, and it works
[07:26] <gogeta> thinkingfrog_ like it should
[07:26] <gogeta> thinkingfrog_ lol
[07:27] <thinkingfrog_> I'm not a developer, so I shouldn't point too many fingers
[07:27] <thinkingfrog_> it's probably pretty hard to make an operating system do this
[07:27] <zeno_> jeez id hope that worked =p
[07:27] <DanikarPN> *blink* ive never had trouble doing that before.
[07:28] <zeno_> otherwise how would you do ANYTHING after unplugging the keyboard
[07:29] <gogeta> DanikarPN wanna see linux stuggle have dialup
[07:29] <gogeta> DanikarPN thers like 0 v92 support
[07:29] <lancerock> What's gonna be the big difference if u just DL a nightly build of Ubuntu now as apposed to waiting the 2 days to get the new version?
[07:30] <drivetrax> you are advised to install Ardour using the normal software installation tools for your distribution.
[07:30] <Charles_Xavier> hello, this is charles, a professor with PhD at the university of penn.
[07:30] <drivetrax> So.. How do I get ardour..
[07:31] <zeno_> "some command" > somescript returns -bash: some command: No such file or directory; how do i have it just put the text in somefile
[07:31] <ripdisk> so, i was doing some reading, and i was just wondering what they mean by 8.04 release canidate
[07:31] <zeno_> !hello | Charles_Xavier:
[07:31] <ubotu> Charles_Xavier:: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:32] <zeno_> ripdisk: its a not-quite finished version
[07:32] <bazhang> lancerock: not much difference
[07:32] <ripdisk> what does ''release candidate'' mean exactly?
[07:32] <ripdisk> ah
[07:32] <drivetrax> RC ~ this might be working now
[07:32] <ripdisk> is it worth getting?
[07:32] <Charles_Xavier> question: I enabled the firmware bcm43xx in the restricted manager and now my wireless card is working and im connected to the internet, i set it on roaming mode. the problem is that it does not show the signal strength in the panel, where do i get a manager that shows the signal strength of my wireless connection?
[07:32] <lancerock> bazhang: k
[07:32] <ripdisk> should i upgrade from gutsy?
[07:32] <zeno_> yeah
[07:32] <Charles_Xavier> hello all, ty
[07:32] <gogeta> arg
[07:32] <zeno_> ripdisk: even the betas were better than gutsy (my opinion)
[07:32] <ripdisk> oh really?
[07:32] <ripdisk> will i lose anything if i update?
[07:32] <gogeta> DanikarPN see what happons i complane and it disconnects for whaever random reasion
[07:32] <ripdisk> and, what's the easiest way to update from 7.10
[07:33] <bazhang> ripdisk: if gutsy is working for you then you may want to try the livecd before switching
[07:33] <gogeta> lol
[07:33] <gogeta> sudo update -d
[07:33] <ripdisk> it'll work just fine
[07:33] <ripdisk> i know it will
[07:33] <ripdisk> i checked all my hardware.
[07:33] <zeno_> ripdisk: google dist-upgrade hardy
[07:33] <bazhang> gogeta: that is not the correct command
[07:33] <ripdisk> roger roger
[07:33] <gogeta> bazhang sence when
[07:34] <ripdisk> zeno_, will i lose anything?
[07:34] <gogeta> bazhang to trigger the gui its -d
[07:34] <zeno_> a command line util such as google whatever would be cool
[07:34] <jhoc2x> hi to all ppl in here.. ^^
[07:34] <bazhang> gogeta you forgot the -manager part
[07:34] <zeno_> ripdisk: stuff COULD break, i might wait like 2 days til official release
[07:34] <ripdisk> oh ok
[07:35] <ripdisk> in that case i'll wait
[07:35] <zeno_> the less youve mucked with stuff the easier the upgrade
[07:35] <ripdisk> only thing i've done was change the video drivers around, really
[07:35] <ripdisk> install some software
[07:35] <gogeta> :-(
[07:35] <zeno_> you should be fine
[07:36] <ripdisk> so, in two days i'll be able to update to the release ver?
[07:36] <zeno_> ive removed GDM/gnome; mucked with init scripts/drivers, etc
[07:36] <zeno_> i probably wont be :(
[07:36] <ripdisk> lol
[07:36] <zeno_> ripdisk: yup
[07:36] <stata> i
[07:36] <ripdisk> will that be another distro upgrade
[07:36] <ripdisk> or just some updates to download
[07:37] <gogeta> bazhang duno abought you but everytime i tryed a full dist update it left my system im a smoking pile of runes
[07:37] <jhoc2x> how to install compizconfig-settings-manager   ??? i got this message "E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager"
[07:37] <zeno_> ripdisk: how you do it is update your /etc/apt/sorces.list, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <tc111> i'm trying to set up an init.d script to start an executable, but also need to pass a switch '-smp' to the executable... is this possible?
[07:37] <Charles_Xavier> Hello, does anyone know how to show the signal strength of my wireless connection
[07:38] <Charles_Xavier> its working fine, but i cannot see the signal strength
[07:38] <stata>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[07:38] <zeno_> jhoc2x: sure you typed in the right package name?
[07:38] <ripdisk> ok zeno, here i go.. thanks!
[07:38] <bazhang> gogeta well if you specify the issues next time perhaps we can work them out
[07:38] <ripdisk> oh, and zeno
[07:38] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> Is it possible to roll back an Ubuntu upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 RC1?
[07:38] <nocturn> Hi guys
[07:38] <ripdisk> will i have to download it again in two days zeno?
[07:39] <zeno_> Charles_Xavier: system/administration/network, and then click on wireless, and it should show signal %
[07:39] <bazhang> Anonona_DC|ZZZ: you mean the reverse?
[07:39] <gogeta> bazhang no i litterly mean smoking pile of runes
[07:39] <zeno_> im sure theres a command line option
[07:39] <jhoc2x> #zeno i did.. i type "sudo apt-get install compizfonfig-settings-manager
[07:39] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> bazhang - yes
[07:39] <zeno_> ripdisk: just updates
[07:39] <nocturn> I'm running Hardy beta, now I need FF2 for a site.  But I cannot figure out how to get Java working in it...
[07:39] <zeno_> (maybe alot of em)
[07:39] <gogeta> bazhang acpi fan glitch
[07:39] <Charles_Xavier> it odesnt show anything
[07:39] <Charles_Xavier> i have roaming mode on, it is not showing the signal strength
[07:39] <bazhang> Anonona_DC|ZZZ: sadly no; not practically at any rate
[07:39] <zeno_> turn roaming off
[07:40] <zeno_> and click on the select network button
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> will it disconnect me?
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> it doesnt work without roaming
[07:40] <Aces> Something went haywire in my WI-FI Radar install and now Im trying to remove it to reinstall and I get dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 2 package `wifi-radar':
[07:40] <Charles_Xavier> i have to keep roaming mode on otherwise my wireless connection does not work
[07:40] <ripdisk> zeno, how do i update the sources.list?
[07:40] <bazhang> Charles_Xavier: roaming mode will not affect seeing the signal strength
[07:41] <areels> is there anything like Live Communications Server for linux?
[07:41] <bazhang> Aces: how did you try to install it? from source, a deb or other
[07:42] <Aces> bazhang: sudo apt-get
[07:42] <ripdisk> nm figured it out
[07:42] <bazhang> Aces: which repo is it in?
[07:43] <Aces> bazhang: umm ill i did was sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:43] <bazhang> nocturn: then install it--what java do you need
[07:44] <nocturn> bazhang: any will do I guess.  I installed java and the java-plugin, but it only appears in FireFox 3, while this site will not work on anything but FF2
[07:45] <wow> Free Banner Exchange, 1:1 Ratio. Sign up today. http://ooc.x10hosting.com/
[07:45] <bazhang> nocturn: this is the flash? java applet or what please specify
[07:45] <bazhang> wow stop now
[07:46] <nocturn> bazhang: just the normal java plugin to run applets, I need to connect to a cisco vpn server that downloads an applet to make the connection...
[07:46] <Aces> bazhang: it seems its just in the Ubuntu repository
[07:47] <bazhang> nocturn: can you copy the plugin from the ff3 plugins folder to the ff2 one? this is hardy correct?
[07:47] <bazhang> Aces: any reason to be using wifi-radar as opposed to cli or network-manager?
[07:48] <nocturn> bazhang: I tried, copied it to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ but it won't appear...
[07:48] <nocturn> bazhang: Hardy RC, yes
[07:48] <Aces> bazhang: because I seem to get really low signal strength with network manager and I read on some forum disabling it and using wifi radar might help
[07:48] <bazhang> nocturn: I believe the plugins location changed, you may wish to ask in the hardy channel as I have forgotten
[07:48] <Aces> bazhang:  either way something must be wrong with it since i cant even remove it
[07:49] <bazhang> Aces: admittedly nm is not that wonderful, have you considered just connecting via cli? that is the surest option
[07:50] <Aces> bazhang: You gave me a link to set it up earlier but I havent got around to going through it yet
[07:50] <nocturn> bazhang: What's the channel for Hardy?
[07:50] <bazhang> Aces: what is the wifi hotspot; open, wep, wpa etc
[07:50] <drivetrax> there is alot of python in ubuntu
[07:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 nocturn
[07:50] <bazhang> for three more days ;]
[07:50] <Aces> bazhang: well I opened it up because whenever I tried to connect while it was WEP it froze Ubuntu
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> drivetrax, yep, we have a fetish for properly-tabbed pseudocode :D
[07:51] <nocturn> bazhang: thanks a million
[07:51] <bazhang> nocturn think it changed to /.mozilla
[07:52] <drivetrax> interesting.  I was trying out Python under windows after that guy showed Python.. n G4 tv
[07:53] <bazhang> Aces: you have the three entries in ifconfig right? eth0 lo and wlan0 (or somesuch)
[07:55] <jhoc2x> how to get the compiz settings?
[07:56] <bazhang> jhoc2x: you got ccsm installed?
[07:56] <ere4si> !ccsm | jhoc2x
[07:56] <ubotu> jhoc2x: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:56] <jhoc2x> i think not yet
[07:57] <Aces> bazhang:  yes i do
[07:57] <bazhang> what does sudo dhclient wlan0 (or nic name if other) do?
[07:57] <jhoc2x> bazhang: it said couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:58] <bazhang> jhoc2x: do you have the proper repos enabled?
[07:58] <Aces> bazhang:  renewal in 42392 seconds.
[07:58] <jhoc2x> bazhang: i think not..
[07:59] <Aces> plus alot of other things
[07:59] <jhoc2x> bazhang: could you give me the proper repos?
[07:59] <bazhang> Aces: can you surf the net now?
[07:59] <Aces> bazhang: yes
[07:59] <bazhang> Aces: great; next step is to get wpa2 on there
[08:00] <Aces> bazhang: k
[08:00] <bazhang> jhoc2x: could you open up synaptic package manager?
[08:00] <zhuojiong> hello
[08:00] <bazhang> hello zhuojiong
[08:00] <jhoc2x> bazhang: yes.. i can..
[08:01] <jhoc2x> !ccsm
[08:01] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:01] <zhuojiong> ZhCon怎么安装啊
[08:01] <bazhang> jhoc2x: okay, then open it up and then check the main repos then (first four should do) then hit reload and then search for compiz; it should show up--click on it and then hit apply changes or somesuch
[08:01] <zhuojiong> 有人教下么？
[08:01] <bazhang> !cn
[08:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:02] <zhuojiong> 谢谢
[08:02] <jhoc2x> kk.. i'll do that .. brb
[08:02] <bazhang> zhuojiong: /j #ubuntu-cn
[08:02] <icesword> hahaha
[08:02] <bazhang> jiao xia?
[08:03] <pclync1> anyone using win4lin?
[08:03] <bazhang> pclync1: what does it do?
[08:04] <pclync1> bazhang: windows x-window emulator
[08:04] <bazhang> icesword: shouldn't that be jiao yi xia?
[08:04] <icesword> bazhang, pardon?
[08:05] <reemusk> check out this awesome game http://game2.mafiadeath.com/r/60880.php
[08:05] <bazhang> an ot not important icesword
[08:05] <icesword> k
[08:05] <bazhang> reemusk please dont spam here
[08:06] <bazhang> pclync1: if you could describe it a bit more perhaps we could come up with a linux solution ;]
[08:07] <bazhang> without the win
[08:07] <pclync1> bazhang: :\ hmm i need to find out the options of the program e.g. "winpro -o do something"
[08:09] <bobbie4> Goodnight all!!!
[08:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349 here is a thread on it pclync1
[08:10] <drivetrax> Can you tell me how to play an mp3?
[08:11] <zvacet> drivetrax : in terminal     sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:11] <bazhang> drivetrax: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed for gutsy (right?)
[08:11] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having an issue with opengl games... whenever I play one (native or wine) I periodically get a severe freeze-up in the game... during this time, X will take 100% cpu usage, and this will last for over a minute.  Can anyone help me out?
[08:11] <drivetrax> bazhang:  I am not certain
[08:12] <bazhang> drivetrax: best listen to zvacet then ;]
[08:14] <cloudedsky> For support, turn to the IRC channel, they said.  So here I am.  This is probably a silly question.
[08:14] <jsoft> Will I be able to upgrade ubuntu 7.10 to 8.whatever it is, just by using the package manager?
[08:14] <zvacet> jsoft :yes
[08:14] <bazhang> jsoft: sure
[08:14] <cloudedsky> If my DVD is a piece of junk and won't read my ubuntu CD, am I out of luck?  Because it boots from startup a virtual drive won't work.  Are there any alternatives?
[08:14] <jsoft> zvacet: yay :)
[08:15] <cloudedsky> DVD drive*
[08:15] <bazhang> cloudedsky: luckily yes; is this a dual boot?
[08:15] <jsoft> over the internet while I am playing warhammer 40k in wine, even?
[08:15] <jsoft> :D
[08:15] <cloudedsky> I'd like it to be.  I'm trying to install it for the first time actually.  It's about time I give it a try.
[08:15] <bazhang> jsoft worth a try for sure ;]
[08:15] <cvd-pr> q esta pasando aqui?
[08:15] <drivetrax> I liked unetbootin
[08:16] <bazhang> cloudedsky several options really: unetbootin, wubi, and some others
[08:16] <drivetrax> it was like, unusual, at first.. but.. It does NOT hang
[08:16] <bazhang> cloudedsky: depending on how technical minded you wish to be
[08:16] <cloudedsky> Hmmm.
[08:16] <bazhang> cvd-pr: not much ;]
[08:16] <thyko> has anyone managed to get their bcm43xx wireless card working on 8.04?
[08:17] <cloudedsky> Well really the whole purpose of this "experiment" was to become more technical.  Ha.
[08:17] <cvd-pr> thyko,  #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <bazhang> thyko: using ndiswrapper or other
[08:17] <drivetrax> cloudedsky:  Unetbootin, read up
[08:18] <bazhang> !wubi | cloudedsky read the ubuntuforums link first
[08:18] <ubotu> cloudedsky read the ubuntuforums link first: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[08:18] <cloudedsky> Looking into right now.
[08:18] <cloudedsky> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, I'm sure I'll be around.
[08:18] <drivetrax> yah, Wubi.. sets up like a Looped virtual disk install
[08:18] <bazhang> slower than unetbootin though
[08:19] <drivetrax> You has to use LVmp er, or somethink to transfer the wubi onto partitions
[08:20] <bazhang> then it will be quite a bit faster ;]
[08:20] <drivetrax> wull.. I liked that the netboot install .. let you tell it what to do, and it did that.
[08:21] <Anonona_DC|ZZZ> Q) is there a better way of getting some type of parity or RAID5 setup going than ZFS over FUSE? A friend said he thought FUSE was highly buggy, and I'm wondering if there are alternatives to going and installing Solaris
[08:21] <thyko> cvd-pr: huh?
[08:22] <thyko> bazhang: does that mean you got it working?
[08:22] <Aces> Why do I get a E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) when I try apt-get update?
[08:22] <tc111> i'm trying to set up an init.d script to start an executable, but also need to pass a switch '-smp' to the executable... is this possible?
[08:22] <cvd-pr> thyko, thats the channel of 8.04
[08:22] <tc111> Aces: need to be root 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:22] <bazhang> Aces: did you sudo?
[08:22] <Aces> aah
[08:23] <Aces> Thanks
[08:23] <DamienGir> Why is it when I access sudo and it asks me for my password, I can't type anything in?
[08:23] <bazhang> DamienGir: the kb locks up?
[08:23] <DamienGir> Yeah
[08:23] <zvacet> DamienGir : yes you can but you don´t see it for security
[08:24] <thyko> cvd-pr: thanks
[08:25] <drivetrax> got java6 now
[08:26] <RootChaos> join #cisco
[08:26] <RootChaos> lol
[08:27] <RootChaos> :-)
[08:28] <artinws> a question : how can i disable a network bridge ? ( without rebooting )
[08:29] <silenciario> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4762770#post4762770 :)
[08:30] <meteor_> Fuck all Frenchman!!!
[08:30] <Ububegin> ban meteor_
[08:31] <Ububegin> ops meteor_
[08:32] <amirman84> this is an amazing OS
[08:32] <de_vica> prada ikutan sini dunk
[08:32] <amirman84> is there a way to transfer a Wubi install to a regular install?
[08:33] <amirman84> i've been setting everything up for the past few hours, i'd hate for it all to be in vain
[08:33] <cloudedsky> amirman84 - look at LVPM http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438591
[08:39] <dubby> hey anyone, i have a program messing up that i wish to terminate, but it is not showing up on system monitor
[08:39] <dubby> its exaile and it tried to open a .wma and just went buggy
[08:39] <iVal> which app ?
[08:40] <dubby> exaile its like amarok for gnome
[08:40] <dubby> its not showing up in system monitor though
[08:40] <iVal> I do not use this
[08:40] <drivetrax> bazhang:  this is a good url for people wanting programs to run and do things with Linux..ubuntu.  http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/top-100-of-the-best-useful-opensource-applications/
[08:40] <amirman84> how do you open a system monitor or process manager anyway?
[08:41] <drivetrax> I had heard about WINE, the interpreter, is it any good, actually?
[08:41] <bazhang> drivetrax: thanks! ;]
[08:41] <DistroJockey> dubby: In a terminal,  ps -e   will list the processes, and you can type   killall processname     to kill it
[08:42] <DistroJockey> dubby: sudo killall   that is
[08:45] <dubby> man i cannot find exaile in there ANYWHERE
[08:45] <dubby> i know its running i can see it on my desktop
[08:46] <DistroJockey> hmm
[08:46] <dubby> im guessing its process name is different then exaile
[08:46] <drivetrax> what does that d?
[08:46] <drivetrax> do?
[08:48] <drivetrax> ohhh, like amarok
[08:49] <dubby> man i think im going to have some downtime just for listening to music
[08:49] <dubby> lol
[08:49] <DistroJockey> dubby: I see it uses Python, maybe you need to kill that (might break other things though)
[08:50] <dubby> hmm sudo killall python doesn't remove python from my list
[08:50] <Triox> what does it mean when Synaptic tells me "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/".  The last few days it would do that when trying to install programs
[08:51] <mr_boo> is the nvidia too supposed to work with the 8800gt?
[08:51] <dubby> Triox it means exactly that, synaptic is having trouble connectiong to the archive
[08:51] <dubby> maybe a firewall setting
[08:51] <zvacet> Triox : try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:51] <mr_boo> i chose 1280x960 and saved to X configuration file
[08:52] <mr_boo> yet it's 640x480 every time i restart
[08:52] <nooga> hi
[08:52] <mr_boo> maybe you could take a look at the file?
[08:52] <zvacet> mr_boo : sudo dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xorg
[08:52] <Triox> what port does synaptic try and connect through.  Maybe I need to open it up on my router
[08:52] <zvacet> zvacet *reconfigure
[08:53] <nooga> i followed that guide -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 and it works like charm, but i would like to undo it, how?
[08:53] <mimmix> ciao
[08:53] <mimmix> &list
[08:53] <bazhang> !it | mimmix
[08:53] <ubotu> mimmix: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:53] <mimmix> ok
[08:53] <mr_boo> zvacet: gonna try, thanks
[08:55] <nooga> i'd like to undo it because i can't connect to any network as a regular client via eth0 anymore
[08:55] <ogre> problems installing vmware workstation6 on ubuntu 7.10 heres a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738/ . anybody know a fix
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[08:56] <bazhang> ogre: workstation? that is a pay only app--have you asked the vmware forums about this?
[08:57] <mr_boo> zvacet: would've been nice if i could mess with graphics only
[08:58] <mr_boo> zvacet: rather than totally reconfigure X
[08:58] <Wicks> can anyone reccommend a terminal email client?
[08:58] <nooga> how to undo theese instructions? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[08:59] <ogre> bazhang:  yeah ive asked 3 times in 5 hours with no response. i have to use workstation because i need sound support
[08:59] <bazhang> nooga what did you do--brief description please
[08:59] <KenSentMe> How can i remove a package that gives me this error on deletion? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63991/
[09:00] <bazhang> ogre: they provide you with a deb? a repo? how did you install it
[09:00] <nooga> bazhang: i just followed the instructions in that post
[09:00] <nooga> and now eth0 is only for sharing internet connection, i would like to normally use eth0 again
[09:01] <bella_yolanda> njhiomn
[09:01] <ogre> bazhang:  they gave me a tar.gz and i installed with ./vmware-config.pl
[09:01] <bella_yolanda> hai
[09:01] <blackmamba> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'  <<<<<<<< what does that mean ?!
[09:03] <zvacet> mr_boo : you can take defaults and just change resolution
[09:03] <bazhang> www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html ogre did you visit this site
[09:04] <ogre> bazhang:  i just figured it out. thanks alot though
[09:04] <bazhang> ogre: ok sorry not to be quicker
[09:04] <boubbin> !dhcp
[09:04] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[09:04] <boubbin> how to setup dhcp-server in ubuntu ?
[09:04] <boubbin> !dhcp-server
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <jhoc2x> how to install my webcam?
[09:04] <neo_> i have problem
[09:05] <ogre> bazhang:  dont say sorry you are awesome. thanks alot
[09:05] <bazhang> jhoc2x: which web cam
[09:05] <bazhang> neo_: what is the issue
[09:05] <neo_> the make menuconfig give error
[09:05] <neo_> in kernel update
[09:05] <zvacet> mr_boo :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <bazhang> neo_: what tutorial told you to make menuconfig
[09:06] <phoenix> Hi there, anyone successfully using an LDAP Directory as an Address Book while offline - I do say, that I want to have it off-line and it replicates fine, but as soon as I switch thunderbird off-line I get zero results from queries...
[09:06] <neo_> kernel compilation
[09:07] <neo_> help me
[09:07] <neo_> which package i install
[09:07] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, i found that only some work, logicteh ones seem to work out the box. http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/128-ubuntu-webcam.html
[09:07] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras jhoc2x is yours in this list
[09:07] <bazhang> neo_: which kernel?
[09:08] <Cheesypieces> hi guys can someone suggest a good alternative to firefox for me?
[09:08] <zvacet> Cheesypieces : Opera
[09:08] <mr_boo> zvacet: still the screen resolution is restored to 640x480 every time i restart X
[09:09] <bazhang> Cheesypieces: you can /msg ubotu browsers for a long list
[09:09] <mr_boo> zvacet: why?
[09:09] <prashant___> hello can i know a way to unmount
[09:09] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, when I switched to ubuntu, i found it was easiler for me to buy a supported webcam, i had a PCline one that just didnt work
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: are you editing xorg.conf as sudo/gksu
[09:09] <neo_> 2.6.25
[09:09] <mr_boo> ActionParsnip: yup
[09:09] <jhoc2x_> sorry i got Disconnected.. i'll have to ask again, how to install my webcam??? im just a noob, new to linux..(ubuntu)
[09:09] <zvacet> mr_boo : did you change it during reconfiguring
[09:09] <neo_> version is 2.6.25 latest release
[09:09] <KenSentMe> How can i remove a package that gives me this error on deletion? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63991/
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: if you remove all the other resolutions from xorg.conf it will have no other option
[09:10] <mr_boo> ActionParsnip: hmm
[09:10] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras look here jhoc2x_
[09:10] <Ergo^> hello guys
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> mr_boo: backup your xorg.conf before doing this
[09:10] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, i found that only some work, logicteh ones seem to work out the box. http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/128-ubuntu-webcam.html
[09:10] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, when I switched to ubuntu, i found it was easiler for me to buy a supported webcam, i had a PCline one that just didnt work
[09:10] <mr_boo> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[09:10] <Ergo^> does anyone here uses firebug with firefox  in hardy ?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Ergo^: just firefox for me
[09:10] <Humble> hello guys am having a problem here can someone help me out? i had ubuntu 7.10 and i upgrated to Kubuntu but when i start up and put my pass to login the screen flashes 2-3 times and then it bringing me back to login page dont know why i cant login
[09:10] <bazhang> Ergo^: some have reported the -16 kernel does not work with it
[09:11] <Ergo^> bazhang: so its kernell issue with firebug ?? :/
[09:11] <zvacet> KenSentMe :sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[09:11] <prashant___> bazhang, please can u tell me a way to unmount a directory which i have mounted as my root drive :)
[09:11] <bazhang> Humble: how did you install kubuntu; what did you choose in session in login screen
[09:11] <fouad> what firefbug has to do with the kernel ??
[09:12] <KenSentMe> zvacet, thanks, but still the same error
[09:12] <Humble> bazhang let me check a sec restarting the laptoop now
[09:12] <dubby> ok anyone i get an error The playback of this movie requires a audio/x-asf-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed. in all media applications i run, yet i have ffmpeg installed which even in synaptics discription says it has asf
[09:12] <bazhang> Ergo^: just what some in Hardy channel have reported
[09:12] <fouad> prashant___, try umount
[09:13] <Ergo^> btw. i can treat my fresh RC install on par with final release - it will get updated correctly ?
[09:13] <zvacet> KenSentMe sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[09:13] <bazhang> Ergo^: aye
[09:13] <KenSentMe> zvacet, that doesnt work either
[09:13] <mr_boo> you're not gonna believe this
[09:13] <mr_boo> still reverts to 640x480 on restarting X
[09:13] <Humble> bazhang in session theres nothink selected
[09:13] <jhoc2x_> !webcam
[09:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:13] <mr_boo> and the only modeline i've got now is a 1280x960 one
[09:13] <x-Chat777> how can i make flash player not choppy on youtube, Avis play fine locally
[09:14] <Humble> bazhang it just shows me a list "default gnome kde xfce failsafe" nothink is selected
[09:14] <bazhang> humble did you try choosing kde
[09:14] <fx|RabBi1> hi all! i need atieventsd NOT to start on system startup, how do i do that?
[09:15] <fouad> .é,
[09:15] <prashant___> fouad: what is mtab
[09:15] <Humble> bazhang same think
[09:15] <Humble> bazhang nothink happened just screen flashed 2 times
[09:15] <prashant___> fouad, it says prashant@VAIO:~$ umount /home/prashant/Backup
[09:15] <prashant___> umount: /home/prashant/Backup is not mounted (according to mtab)
[09:15] <bazhang> humble you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[09:16] <zvacet> KenSentMe : locate packagename
[09:16] <Humble> yez
[09:16] <mr_boo> is there a way of determine if the /etc/X11/xorg.conf really is the file that the system uses
[09:16] <Humble> bazhang i think i installed only that
[09:16] <fouad> mtab = /etc/mtab
[09:17] <KenSentMe> zvacet, i got it allready, just created the folders dpkg wanted to delete and now i could remove the package without errors
[09:17] <mr_boo> zvacet: i've got some more questions
[09:17] <bazhang> humble that is odd; should just work--does gnome work?
[09:17] <mr_boo> zvacet: i've only one mode line 1280x960 in my xorg.conf now
[09:18] <mr_boo> zvacet: yet the resolution reverts to 640x480 on restarting X
[09:18] <Humble> bazhang no just tryed it dunno whats wrongs
[09:18] <mr_boo> zvacet: any ideas?
[09:18] <zvacet> mr_boo : no,sorry
[09:18] <prashant___> fouad, it is not present in mtab but the directory is mounted as when i open it - it opens my root "/" directory can u help?
[09:19] <Humble> bazhang how to i remove them? so i return to ubuntu ?
[09:19] <bazhang> humble if you /msg ubotu puregnome there is a link to follow on what to remove
[09:20] <fx|RabBi1> is everything in /etc/init.d being started automatically on systemstartup?
[09:20] <Cap_J_L_Picard> fx|RabBi1: no, not usually
[09:20] <zvacet> mr_boo Did you look under system>preferences<screen resolution to change it there
[09:20] <jhoc2x_> anyone here using Easycam?
[09:21] <x-Chat777> how can i make flash player not choppy on youtube,
[09:21] <fx|RabBi1> Cap_J_L_Picard: im looking for a way to remove atieventsd from system startup...
[09:22] <brady_k> hey
[09:22] <jhoc2x_> anyone here using EasyCam?
[09:22] <Cap_J_L_Picard> fx|RabBi1: remove the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d they are numbered to each runlevel.
[09:22] <Cap_J_L_Picard> only remove the symlinks you don't want to start though.
[09:23] <X-Seti> jhoc2x, why dont you use read the link we gave you, if you webcam isnt in that list, it's prop not going to work.
[09:23] <fx|RabBi1> Cap_J_L_Picard: yeah i just realized, tank you mate it was in rc0
[09:23] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: Are you watching a hight or low quality version?
[09:23] <Humble> bazhang ?
[09:23] <jhoc2x_> ooppss.. my bad.. ^_^  sorry
[09:23] <bazhang> aye Humble
[09:24] <prashant___> hello ! i am a bit stuck here :) as i have mounted a directory /home/prashant/Backup using - "sudo mount /dev/sdb3/ /home/prashant/Backup" and now when i try to unmount it using umount /home/prashant/Backup . It says that it is not mounted (acc to mtab) but the directory is mounted as it shows the content of my root(or dev/sdb3)....
[09:24] <Humble> bazhang i did used the sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop command but it doesnt unistalls them lol
[09:24] <x-Chat777> my videos only chop when i stream. otherwise they play fine
[09:24] <bazhang> !puregnome | Humble read this link
[09:24] <ubotu> Humble read this link: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[09:25] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: yeah, that's ecause your net connection is too slow.
[09:25] <bazhang> x-Chat777: youtube?
[09:25] <x-Chat777> audio does'nt chop
[09:25] <zvacet> Humble :http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:25] <Cap_J_L_Picard> x-Chat777: tell youtube you want low quality.
[09:25] <Humble> bazhang i done that
[09:25] <fayetteson> can anyone offer up some good third party repositories other than the default ones ?
[09:25] <bazhang> Humble: no you didnt
[09:26] <x-Chat777> i click low quality
[09:26] <pipsqeek> fayetteson: usually you just pick the ones from your continent.
[09:26] <bazhang> Humble: read the link and unistall all the apps it tells you
[09:26] <x-Chat777> even tweaked about;conf
[09:26] <fayetteson> thaks pipsqeek
[09:26] <zvacet> Humble : read under remove Kubuntu
[09:26] <bazhang> x-Chat777: get youtube-dl
[09:27] <pipsqeek> fayetteson: best to google ubuntu mirrors for your country and just change the URL's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:27] <bazhang> fayetteson: third party repos are not a good idea
[09:28] <fredmv> Anyone familar with avimerge?
[09:28] <pclynch> whats the easiest way to set up a boot manager for ubuntu?
[09:28] <bazhang> fayetteson: will break things
[09:28] <x-Chat777> does youtube-dl stream in firefox
[09:28] <HSNews> how to install Sphinx on Ubuntu? I get error on ./configure: ERROR: cannot find MySQL include files.
[09:28] <bullgard4> Where can I find a classification of the 109 terminal fonts that Ubuntu offers?
[09:28] <HSNews> Sphinx - I mean Sphinx Search Engine
[09:28] <fredmv> I'm trying to merge like 17 AVI's togther, but when I view the output video, the audio is off.  It works for the first couple minutes, and then, it just doesn't line up.
[09:28] <alex__> hi all
[09:29] <dubby> ﻿hey anyone im trying to get wma on amarok anyone know the libs i can use?
[09:29] <dubby> i also have ffmpeg installed
[09:29] <bazhang> x-Chat777: nay; it dl's them; you can then watch with vlc etc
[09:30] <zvacet> dubby :Amarok play wma fine do you have plugins?
[09:30] <x-Chat777> they used to play on gutsy
[09:30] <pclynch> whats the easiest way to set up a boot manager for ubuntu?
[09:30] <bazhang> x-Chat777: just an option; flash is so unstable via ff these days it is nice to have other choices
[09:31] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed some applications. Although each of them came with its own .desktop file, yet some of them are not appearing in the  corresponding menu. What is the reason? Does someone know some possible solution?
[09:31] <prashant___> hello ! i am a bit stuck here :) as i have mounted a directory /home/prashant/Backup using - "sudo mount /dev/sdb3/ /home/prashant/Backup" and now when i try to unmount it using umount /home/prashant/Backup . It says that it is not mounted (acc to mtab) but the directory is mounted as it shows the content of my root(or dev/sdb3)....
[09:31] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: installed how
[09:31] <motti> hi all.
[09:32] <x-Chat777> is there a player that doent glitch
[09:32] <motti> is it possible to run symphony one from a usb drive?
[09:32] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: through Synaptic.
[09:32] <esperegu> I SUDDENLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CAPS LOCK> ANYONE  knows if it might be influenced by an update? I am really getting creazy here!! :-(
[09:32] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: which apps?
[09:32] <esperegu> WHEN I press shift capslock enables.
[09:33] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: some games.
[09:33] <bazhang> esperegu: stay away from shift ;]
[09:33] <pipsqeek> that's what Shift is suppose to do
[09:33] <esperegu> bazhang: that is kinda hart
[09:33] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: give me an example I will download it
[09:33] <esperegu> pipsqeek: not stay on
[09:33] <esperegu> only when you keep pressing it
[09:33] <pipsqeek> broken keyboard?
[09:33] <esperegu> also my ctrl seems to lock up
[09:33] <knightWse> does anybody know why this crontab line does not run ? 30 23   * * *   root    scp -rv trinityssh@10.0.0.10:/var/www/ /home/backups/daily/
[09:34] <esperegu> pipsqeek: hope not
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: now it works
[09:34] <motti> anyone?
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: thanks
[09:34] <bazhang> esperegu: sounds like hardware issue
[09:34] <zvacet> mr_boo :good
[09:34] <esperegu> :-(
[09:34]  * pipsqeek agrees wih bazhang
[09:34] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: One of them was antigravitaattori
[09:34] <mr_boo> zvacet: will this necessarily work with the realtime kernel as well as the generic (which i'm using now)?
[09:35] <esperegu> I TRY TO RUN A PROGRAM BUT IT SAIDS:
[09:35] <esperegu> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
[09:35] <esperegu> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
[09:35] <esperegu> running this program.
[09:35] <FloodBot2> esperegu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <bazhang> !info antigravitaattori
[09:35] <ubotu> antigravitaattori (source: antigrav): Multiplayer flying saucer racing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4 (gutsy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[09:35] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: another one is acm
[09:35] <esperegu> I HAVE BOTH SUN AND OS JAVA
[09:35] <zvacet> mr_boo : I hope so,but I never used it so I don´t know for sure
[09:35] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: and xtux
[09:35] <esperegu> I tried to add it to path but that does not work
[09:35] <knightWse> esperegu, DONT shout !
[09:35] <esperegu> hahahaha
[09:35] <pipsqeek> knightWse: the syntax looks wrong
[09:36] <motti> is it possible to run symphony one from a usb drive?
[09:36] <bazhang> his capslock is broken bad kb
[09:36] <esperegu> knightWse: I thnik that you did not read why I AM HERE
[09:36] <esperegu> MY KEYBOARD CAPS LOCK GETS STUCK
[09:36] <mr_boo> why do some graphics drivers only work with the generic kernel?
[09:36] <esperegu> AT LEAST> SOFTWARE
[09:36] <pipsqeek> esperegu: what happens when you use the other shift key?
[09:36] <esperegu> dammit
[09:36] <fredmv> Is anyone familar with avimerge?  I can't figure out why the audio isn't matching the video... ;\
[09:36] <grigris> hi
[09:36] <mutk> esperegu, Please understand - Using caps is considered rude and disruptive. Stop it now.
[09:36] <esperegu> pipsqeek: I HAVE SPECIAL KEYBOARD >
[09:37] <bazhang> mutk his kb is borked
[09:37] <albech> give him a break guys.. its the reason he is here
[09:37] <knightWse> pipsqeek, any idea what is wrong  ? The command works , but it are the timing things
[09:37] <bottiger> I have a computer which gets it's IP from a dhcp-server. Is there a way to ask for a specifik IP ?
[09:37] <grigris> i want ask somthink pls
[09:37] <bottiger> (on a local network)
[09:37] <pipsqeek> lol, okay. unfortunately you are about to get kicked off here. sadly.
[09:37] <esperegu> pipsqeek: that's why i need to run that program to see if the keyboard is still ok.
[09:37] <mr_boo> does anyone here use the 8800gt with the realtime kernel?
[09:38] <pipsqeek> bottiger: yeah, assign your MAC address to a specific IP address on the DHCP server.
[09:38] <esperegu> anyone knows how to fix the javapath stuff?
[09:38] <mutk> esperegu, I don't think any java application will help you here.
[09:38] <grigris> tell me the site of openGL pls
[09:38] <esperegu> mutk: it is the Program for the keyboard
[09:38] <pipsqeek> grigris: http://www.opengl.org/
[09:39] <bazhang> esperegu: you had the problem with the kb that wrote upside down too, right?
[09:39] <grigris> thnks
[09:39] <esperegu> mutk: it's a .bin file. how can I START IT WITH grrrrrrrr a specific java?
[09:39] <esperegu> bazhang: not that I know
[09:40] <bazhang> esperegu: hmm maybe I mis-remembered ;]
[09:40] <motti> hello. does anyone know of symphony one distro?
[09:40] <bazhang> motti: how is that related to ubuntu
[09:40] <pipsqeek> lol
[09:40] <motti> because symphony one is an ubuntu based distro
[09:40] <bazzieb> how do i change the rights of the logged in user so i have access to edit and save files like smb.conf and other config files??
[09:41] <mr_boo> do different kernels use different drivers?
[09:41] <bazhang> motti: ubuntu-based is not = ubuntu
[09:41] <mr_boo> bazzieb: $ sudo su
[09:41] <bwayne> bazzieb:  is your current user in the sudoers file?
[09:41] <Yudha> jjhjh
[09:41] <motti> bazhang. here I thought that people would be nice and will glad to help a human being
[09:41] <bazzieb> i dont know, how do i check?
[09:41] <motti> silly me
[09:41] <esperegu> how can I run this so it will work: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d329b6be5
[09:41] <mr_boo> do different kernels use the same xorg.conf file?
[09:41] <bazhang> motti: go to www.ubuntu.com/download get the real deal, and then we can talk
[09:42] <bazhang> motti: indeed silly you
[09:42] <bwayne> bazzieb: type 'sudo' in the command line, give it your password, and then it'll tell you if you're not.
[09:42] <mr_boo> esperegu: just install it in synaptic
[09:42] <pipsqeek> motti: there's a difference. You don't go to a petrol station and ask for crude oil. It's all from the same thing though, right?
[09:42] <mr_boo> esperegu: or with $ sudo apt-get install blahblah
[09:42] <mutk> esperegu, If java is installed 'somewhere' usually it is enough to add the location to your PATH
[09:42] <motti> I KNOW what ubuntu is. the problem is that ubuntu stopped supporting my hardware and I need to search other distro
[09:43] <bazhang> motti: go into #debian and ask for ubuntu help
[09:43] <zvacet> motti : rty #linux
[09:43] <bwayne> motti: try dsl linux for older hardware.
[09:43] <mr_boo> does anyone know if different kernels use the same xorg.conf file?
[09:44] <bazhang> http://www.symphonyos.com/forum/ motti
[09:44] <mutk> esperegu, PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin  ./setupfingerworks160.bin
[09:44] <esperegu> mr_boo: not everything is in synaptic
[09:44] <bazzieb> it accepts my password but when i make changes to the smb.conf file with gedit it says i dont have permission to do this
[09:44] <motti> please, one second.
[09:44] <pipsqeek> bazzieb: add sudo to the front of it
[09:44] <bwayne> bazzieb: use the command 'gksudo gedit /etc/smb.conf'
[09:44] <mr_boo> esperegu: maybe you need to download those packages from somewhere then
[09:44] <esperegu> mutk: then I GET A Bad : modifier in $ (/).
[09:44] <bazzieb> cool
[09:45] <esperegu> grr... sorry
[09:45] <mr_boo> do different kernels use the very same xorg.conf file?
[09:45] <motti> I used ubuntu for a great deal of time. but ever since 7.10 my wifi card isn't supported.
[09:45] <pipsqeek> mine too.
[09:45] <mutk> esperegu, Hold on..
[09:45] <pipsqeek> so I used different drivers
[09:45] <motti> I know it crashes with my video card and ubuntu were the first to handle the problem.
[09:45] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - when I do "apt-get install [already-installed package]", why does it sometimes say "1 newly installed"? is that an update then?
[09:45] <bwayne> bazzieb: your normal user has to invoke higher priviledges before it can edit files owned by root.  that's what sudo and gksudo do, evoke permissions.
[09:45] <bazhang> motti syphony is based on debian--you should ask there according to your logic
[09:46] <mr_boo> everytime i start realtime kernel my nvidia 8800gt doesn't work
[09:46] <pipsqeek> lol
[09:46] <mr_boo> grrr
[09:46] <motti> I thought people would be nice
[09:46] <bazzieb> thanks very much guys
[09:46] <bazzieb> its works
[09:46] <pipsqeek> we are, we're telling you accurate information
[09:46] <bazzieb> as always
[09:46] <motti> won't you pick an old lady to hospital even though you are not a driver?
[09:46] <motti> bye
[09:46] <bazhang> we are motti; but it is debian-based not ubuntu-based
[09:46] <pipsqeek> telling you where you can find a better answer.
[09:47] <mr_boo> grr
[09:47] <mutk> esperegu, What shell are you using ?
[09:47] <motti> Based on ubuntu 7.10 with all the latest updates.
[09:47] <motti> this is a direct quote from symphony one website
[09:47] <bazhang> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=symphony
[09:47] <esperegu> mutk: i think csh
[09:48] <mutk> esperegu, Any particular reason?
[09:48] <bazhang> at any rate motti it is offtopic here
[09:48] <pipsqeek> motti: look. they have a forum.
[09:48] <pipsqeek> http://symphonyos.com/forum/
[09:49] <SirDidi> knows anybody how i can add a loop in Selenium IDE?
[09:49] <esperegu> mutk: don't remember. I configured that a long time ago. probably because it was also on the servers or so
[09:49] <mutk> esperegu, chsh /bin/bash   and see if that helps.
[09:49] <motti> bazhang, this is so irrelevant. if people would start talking about something not computer oriented you wouldn't make that remark
[09:50] <bazhang> motti pm me your question and I will go to their forums for you
[09:50] <bullgard4> Where can I find a classification of the 109 terminal fonts that Ubuntu offers?
[09:50] <mr_boo> am i the only one who tries to use the 8800gt with the realtime kernel?
[09:50] <esperegu> mutk: chsh: unknown user /bin/bash
[09:50] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo:  i use 8800GTS 512 with RT kernel...close
[09:51] <motti> bazhang, this is not what I wanted. I have actually a pretty general question and I was hoping to find somewhat of computer guru here
[09:51] <mutk> esperegu, Sorry   chsh -s /bin/bash
[09:51] <pipsqeek> motti: but they have a forum! http://symphonyos.com/forum/
[09:51] <gogeta> motti well your defently in the right place
[09:51] <pipsqeek> best source of knowledge for your enquiry
[09:51] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: does one have to do any special magic to get the card to work with the realtime kernel specifically?
[09:51] <bazhang> okay motti; let me know if you change your mind
[09:52] <pipsqeek> what was the question anyway. we haven't even got to that.
[09:52] <motti> gogeta?
[09:52] <Humble> bazhang how can i enable and connec to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[09:52] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: i did NOT have to do anything special ... I am using the nvidia drivers, if that matters
[09:52] <bazhang> symphony from a usb gogeta
[09:52] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to view youtube videos in opera?
[09:52] <motti> pipsqeek, there forum is quit numbed
[09:53] <pipsqeek> ah well, you should pick a more supported distro dude.
[09:53] <mutk> motti, I don't understand what you just said..
[09:53] <bazhang> gogeta debian-based sympony os
[09:53] <esperegu> mutk: I keep getting: chsh: PAM authentication failed
[09:53] <gogeta> bazhang: oh
[09:53] <pipsqeek> so. what's the question, in full? not just one word followed by a question mark
[09:53] <mutk> esperegu, Right. Looks like it has been restricted.
[09:53] <gogeta> bazhang: thast would be a google search lol
[09:54] <motti> pipsqeek, or maybe more supported distro should stop messing around with the kernel, I used aubuntu for 2 years before I had to switch distro
[09:54] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: in my case i can start the generic and it works
[09:54] <esperegu> mutk: got it. looks like it's hard to type passwrds on this keyboard ;-)
[09:54] <mutk> esperegu, Aha.
[09:54] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: but as soon as i start the realtime one i can only run in low graphics mode
[09:54] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: wait i forgot..if you are using the nvidia drivers you must re-install them anytime the kernel changes
[09:54] <user11_011> how do i unzip packages without ^M in each line
[09:54] <pipsqeek> motti: anyway, that's not really offering me any information to help you.
[09:54] <bazhang> gogeta one step ahead of you ;]
[09:54] <gogeta> bazhang why that i ask
[09:55] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: that is probably it - I had to check my blog to recall what I did and I made a note of the re-install of drivers
[09:55] <mutk> esperegu, Try this    echo $PATH     then   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin  and echo $PATH again
[09:55] <motti> is there anyone here willing to help me?
[09:55] <bazhang> gogeta that is motti's question for #ubuntu ;]
[09:55] <pipsqeek> motti: so, what's the question, in full.
[09:55] <pipsqeek> motti: ask the question!
[09:55] <Humble> anyoen know how can i enable and connect to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[09:55] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to view youtube videos in opera? it just comes up blank
[09:55] <mutk> esperegu, After that run    which java  It should show the java from the /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/b directory
[09:56] <user11_011> how do i unzip packages without ^M in each line
[09:56] <drivetrax> Cheesypieces:  Do you have Flash player 9 ?
[09:56] <gogeta> motti google tells all
[09:57] <bazhang> Humble: sure; what do you see in ifconfig three entries or two
[09:57] <gogeta> :-D
[09:57] <motti> I want to run symphony one live cd from my usb flash drive. the guides for running livecd's from usb drive are all stating I should change a certain file name isolinux.cfg but I don't have that file I wanted to know if there other operation for creating a live cd
[09:57] <zvacet> Cheesypieces : which version of Opera do you use? Opera 9.27 have problems with flash.Try Opera 9.50 beta
[09:57] <drivetrax> well.. google does not tell certain things
[09:57] <Cheesypieces> drivetrax: i think so, i've been using firefox which has been working fine
[09:57] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com motti
[09:57] <tobias> user11_011, unzip the files and run dos2unix on them
[09:57] <esperegu> mutk: still get the error Bad : modifier in $ (/). on the export line
[09:58] <Muhammad_Saad> I need a graphical tool for recovering lost files.  Does anyone know any?
[09:58] <gogeta> isolinux.cfg you defently have that somewhre
[09:58] <motti> I read their guide, that's what they say
[09:58] <gogeta> or linux would not load
[09:58] <drivetrax> Cheesypieces:  And, install flash for Opera..
[09:58] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: gui? how about cli
[09:58] <mutk> esperegu,  Show the result of   echo $PATH please/
[09:58] <gogeta> unless grub itsself is on the cd
[09:58] <andy81>  8-)
[09:58] <Slart> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk is the only one I know.. it's text based but it's still select and press enter instead of point and click
[09:58] <user11_011> tobias - can i run it on a directory
[09:59] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk and photorec
[09:59] <esperegu> mutk:
[09:59] <esperegu> laptop:~> echo $PATH
[09:59] <esperegu> /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/jh
[09:59] <mutk> motti, Got a link to the guide you are refering to?
[09:59] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: would you recommend using the "envy" script?
[09:59] <motti> http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[09:59] <bazhang> hardy or gutsy mr_boo
[09:59] <codedmind> hy there
[09:59] <Ziroday> !envy | mr_boo
[09:59] <ubotu> mr_boo: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:00] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: How do I recover a tar.gz file with testdisk or photorec?
[10:00] <tobias> user11_011, read the man page, but from the top of my head, no, but you can run it in a loop for each file in a directory
[10:00] <mutk> esperegu,  Can you show me the exact command you run ? copy and paste it and the output.
[10:00] <Ziroday> codedmind: hey
[10:00] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad you download it again
[10:00] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: you have tried them?
[10:00] <motti> mutk: this is the one I've been using, pendirve linux tend to be distro specific and their ubuntu part ask for the same file
[10:00] <mr_boo> thanks
[10:00] <mr_boo> gonna try
[10:00] <codedmind> Anyone can help me listen web radio behind proxy school ?
[10:00] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: well, I HAVE used it in the past when I got so frustrated trying to do install the nvidia drivers manually. So, my experience is give it a good try first yourself, and then if that fails, try envy
[10:00] <fx|RabBitt> how do i set a systemvariable?
[10:00] <codedmind> i can listen in windows and media player, but in ubuntu can't
[10:01] <fx|RabBitt> like for example $DISPLAY?
[10:01] <Syntux> is there anyway to point source.list config into a local ISO file ?
[10:01] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: I have tried testdisk, photorec and magicrescue.
[10:01] <Humble> anyoen know how can i enable and connect to my wireless internet from "terminal" ?
[10:01] <gogeta> bazhang lol you knoe recovery in linux = dammed near inpossable unless its still in /tmp
[10:01] <mutk> motti, Got a link to the guide you are refering to?  <-- I mean a web link. If you are trying to send a file me via IRC do not do that
[10:01] <Ziroday> codedmind: unfortunatly with web radio takes up alot of band width so will be really slow through a proxy, what country are you in?
[10:01] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: what tar.gz
[10:01] <pipsqeek> mutk: they pasted a link
[10:01] <codedmind> Portugal
[10:01] <pipsqeek> http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[10:01] <tobias> fx|RabBitt, "export $DISPLAY=<whatever>"
[10:02] <motti> mutk: http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/usbdisk.html
[10:02] <codedmind> at the moment i'm connect to a remote windows desktop so i can listen the radio...
[10:02] <fx|RabBitt> tobias:  THABKS A LOT!
[10:02] <mutk> Aha. motti Thanks
[10:02] <bazhang> gogeta aye but have to give something hopeful right?
[10:02] <codedmind> (in school the connection is fast!!)
[10:02] <esperegu> mutk: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d20cf5121
[10:02] <pipsqeek> lol. i must be on ignore or something
[10:02] <codedmind> http://mix.clix.pt/asx/outros/mix96.asx
[10:03] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Some days ago I had saved my Thunderbird profile in a tar.gz file and now I have damaged my Thunderbird profile. So i am looking for a way to recover that archive.
[10:03] <codedmind> this is the address i can't listen in ubuntu
[10:03] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad as i said man the cances are slim
[10:03] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk and photrec are the best bets unless you want to pay pros to do it for you
[10:03] <pipsqeek> codedmind: does ubuntu refer to the proxy? as I imagine Windows does
[10:04] <gogeta> bazhang even pros cry if you say nix
[10:04] <codedmind> pipsqeek: i don't know... i try vlc, with proxy and without
[10:04] <codedmind> and always get a refused connection
[10:04] <hzu> REISER FOUND GUILTY, SENTENCING FRIDAY
[10:04] <hzu> :(
[10:04] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: So there is no GUI?
[10:04] <bazhang> hzu: no spam please
[10:04] <hzu> Oh yeah
[10:04] <mutk> esperegu, Ok I think I have it..    setenv PATH ${PATH}:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin
[10:04] <hzu> You really know what's going on in the opensource world
[10:05] <jpatrick> !ot > hzu
[10:05] <Muhammad_Saad> +
[10:05] <hzu> care-meter: [..............]   0%
[10:05] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: not really the point; the chances are small in any event and those are the best choice minux paying others to do it
[10:05] <Muhammad_Saad> sorry I accidentally ht the enter key.
[10:05] <gogeta> hzu woa no way
[10:05] <hzu> Dave2: sup mah boy
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://195.23.102.197/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://195.23.102.197:80/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://212.113.177.245/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <codedmind> Unable to open 'mms://212.113.177.245:80/96promo/promomix.wma?MSWMExt=.asf'
[10:05] <FloodBot2> codedmind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <hzu> gogeta: way, its all over digg.com
[10:05] <speedhunt3r> hey if i play an .rm file from terminal using mplayer, i can maximize the video... but if i play the same file normally, not going through terminal, I maxmize the window but the video doesn't maximize... what could be the problem?
[10:05] <gogeta> :'(
[10:05] <codedmind> that is what i get :s
[10:05] <ripdisk> i just updated to hardy and when i get into gnome everything's blank
[10:06] <ripdisk> but it works when i use the ''failsafe gnome''
[10:06] <bazhang> hzu: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[10:06] <jpatrick> codedmind: please use the pastebin
[10:06] <gogeta> hzu guess he couldent bribe the right people
[10:06] <esperegu> mutk: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d52ad02d8 (the java still points to /usr/bin though)
[10:06] <ripdisk> is this a normal problem? does using the failsafe limit me or something?
[10:06] <Slart> ripdisk: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <hzu> I guess he couldn't
[10:06] <ripdisk> slart: ten four,
[10:06] <codedmind> jpatrick: sorry :(
[10:07] <mutk> esperegu, So how come if there was a java in the PATH to begin with you have this problem?
[10:07] <gogeta> hzu M$ fear oss now we kill are wifes
[10:07] <guja_nebeska> Good Morning.
[10:07] <gogeta> >:o
[10:07] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: As far as I can understand, photorec is designed especially to recover photos. Please correct me if I am wrong.
[10:08] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: And how do I tell photorec to scan a certain directory?
[10:08] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: testdisk/photrec are the only tools I know of if  have formatted the drive
[10:08] <mr_boo> now i'm on the realtime kernel
[10:08] <codedmind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63994/ can understadn, i define proxy in vlc but then he try to connect trought port 80
[10:08] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[10:08] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: nary a clue, have never used it
[10:09] <mr_boo> when i attempt to start the nvidia-settings tool i get this mess "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:09] <gogeta> Muhammad_Saad when i say slim to 0 i mean it thats why
[10:09] <Ziroday> mr_boo: how did you install the driver?>
[10:10] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: usually when I have this problem it is because the "vesa" driver is being used. This means the "nvidia" driver was not installed.
[10:10] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: OK, How do I tell photorec to recover files only from a certain directory?
[10:10] <pipsqeek> motti: considering symphonyos is based on deb/ubuntu, why not follow a mare suitable howto. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: i did it from the generic kernel
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: it works in that kernel only
[10:10] <Ziroday> mr_boo: _how_ did you install the drivers, via the restricted drivers manager?
[10:10] <mr_boo> Ziroday: yeah
[10:11] <drivetrax> ah.. good sleep..
[10:11] <gogeta> Ziroday check it
[10:11] <gogeta> lol
[10:11] <mr_boo> Ziroday: only the generic kernel understands to use the nvidia driver
[10:11] <mr_boo> Ziroday: the realtime kernel uses vesa for some reason
[10:11] <pipsqeek> motti: I did this a few weeks ago when I placed Ubuntu on a USB key so I could live boot it for going on my EeePC
[10:11] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: did you re-install the drivers? since they are complied against the kernel headers, this must be done everytime the kernel changes....oh, nvm I mean the drivers from nvidia proper, not the ones from the restricted driver manager ... you will need to install the drivers from nvidia manually I think
[10:12] <gogeta> eeepc :-X
[10:12] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: envy did the job for the generic kernel
[10:12] <gogeta> smaller is not beter
[10:12] <Ziroday> mr_boo: I am sorry I don't follow, are you in the generic or the realtime kernel currently?
[10:12] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: so why shouldn't it work with the realtime kernel?
[10:12] <mr_boo> Ziroday: i'm on realtime currently
[10:12] <pipsqeek> gogeta: it is for me. as I have a 17" MacBook Pro.
[10:12] <mr_boo> Ziroday: and i want it to work here as well
[10:13] <Lowkey421> how do people download music (ex. p2p) on linux?
[10:13] <gogeta> pipsqeek then why drop 400$ for a basic system
[10:13] <pipsqeek> gogeta: comes in handy when I'm out and about to administer clients network
[10:13] <gogeta> owkey421 we dont
[10:13] <pipsqeek> gogeta: Oh, I didn't pay for the EeePC. I'm an authorised Asus distributer in Australia. ;)
[10:13] <Lowkey421> gogeta: dont lie
[10:14] <gogeta> pipsqeek lol
[10:14] <Lowkey421> gogeta: you know you download music illegally like everyone else
[10:14] <Lowkey421> now teach me :{
[10:14] <andcorps> hi
[10:14] <gogeta> pipsqeek < never buy one now
[10:14] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: I don't know enough about how envy works to guess. On this machine (which is x86_64 rt), I install the drivers myself after downloading from nvidia
[10:14] <andcorps> guys
[10:14] <mr_boo> my feeling is that envy doesn't do it's job on the realtime kernel
[10:14] <gogeta> lol
[10:14] <andcorps> still need help about my earphone config on ubuntu 7.1
[10:14] <gogeta> you will send me the bad ones
[10:15] <pipsqeek> gogeta: why not. I seem to be moving them out the door. though sales have slowed since the 900 model announcment.
[10:15] <bazhang> !piracy | Lowkey421
[10:15] <ubotu> Lowkey421: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[10:15] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Did you install those applications? Are you having the same situation?
[10:15] <esperegu> mutk: I don't know. I just give you the output as I see it. it still complaints but I now get another error: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d11753aaf
[10:15] <codedmind> that radio this is really a wall to the past!!!
[10:15] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: well I had xtux already installed and it went fine
[10:15] <lordmorgoth> hey guys. i deleted some of the groups on my pc, by mistake. i couldn't log into X, i recreated the group gdm, but still there are a lot of them missing, do u know anyway to restore the default groups or a list of them ?
[10:15] <gogeta> pipsqeek asues are ok if tey only had decent video
[10:15] <Lowkey421> thanks ubotu
[10:16] <codedmind> that radio problem is really a walk to the PAST
[10:16] <Lowkey421> oops bazhang lol
[10:16] <codedmind> that things shouldn't happen!!!
[10:16] <gogeta> pipsqeek stop putting intel crap in them
[10:16] <andcorps> hello
[10:16] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Did the menu item for xtux appear in the applications menu?
[10:16] <andcorps> can anyone help me with my earphone config
[10:16] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: went well yes
[10:17] <quentusrex_> anyone know about running Folding@Home on a multicore ubuntu machine?
[10:17] <andcorps>  tried everything
[10:17] <pipsqeek> gogeta: well, the EeePC is hardly aimed at the big screen market. and if I had the choice. yes, I'd go with AMD. I'm also a Shuttle X PC dealer and I barely sell them with Intel chips. GO AMD
[10:17] <gogeta> pipsqeek im talking video
[10:17] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: Then what can be the reason?
[10:17] <lordmorgoth> anyone ?
[10:18] <gogeta> pipsqeek even a cheap via is better
[10:18] <Ziroday> gogeta: I also have a EeePC and find them great
[10:18] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: you using kde?
[10:18] <pipsqeek> gogeta: what use would a better video chipset have on such a small screen. It supports compiz
[10:18] <gogeta> pipsqeek a ati mobilty with hypermemery
[10:18] <Muhammad_Saad> bazhang: GNOME on Edubuntu.
[10:18] <bazhang> Muhammad_Saad: ah; kde4 Hardy here
[10:18] <pipsqeek> gogeta: that's the problem. you do that, you start jacking up the price. you do that, you lose the target market.
[10:19] <pipsqeek> you want that, you go get a better laptop
[10:19] <gogeta> pipsqeek those are cheap shared cards to
[10:19] <gogeta> pipsqeek just not intel
[10:19] <bazhang> heys guys how about joining #eeepc
[10:19] <pipsqeek> lol
[10:19] <codedmind> i know the big problem is with how put the radio in mms
[10:19] <codedmind> but that is thw world we have!!!
[10:19] <NLS> hello - I've got a question mostly because of curiosity: is there any reason the DVD distribution is SO hard to find? everything seems to "push" you towards the CD builds and you have to dig hard to reach a DVD one
[10:20] <gogeta> pipsqeek and preform 100x better
[10:20] <codedmind> i'm see that i will forced to move again to windows because of that!!!
[10:20] <mr_boo> omg
[10:20] <bazhang> sorry to hear that codedmind
[10:20] <mr_boo> nowhere in the xorg.conf file i can see that vesa is chosen
[10:20] <mr_boo> yet i always get the vesa driver on restart
[10:20] <mr_boo> omg
[10:20] <bazhang> NLS: hard to find? ubuntu gutsy dvd iso top link or so will do it
[10:21] <Ziroday> NLS: because DVD's are hard to buy and burn, as well as expensive for one time uses and take longer to download
[10:21] <bazhang> NLS: need that link?
[10:21] <codedmind> bazhang: the big problem is why in windows it work!!!
[10:22] <ushimitsudoki> Is there some way to send a window to a different X Screen?
[10:22] <codedmind> bazhang:  the mms door is closed too... so if media player can tunnel it to http proxy why linux can't!?
[10:22] <NLS> baz thanks I have found a DVD build even for RC, but I don't see where you saw that "dvd iso top link" :)
[10:22] <bazhang> codedmind: dont really know about windows or streaming radio
[10:22] <codedmind> bazhang: yeah right
[10:22] <ultrav1olet> How can I install freetype (libfreetype6) with BYTECODE interpreter and improvements for LCD display? I can compile freetype manually but I'd like to know if there's an official way of doing that
[10:23] <ultrav1olet> In Fedora I would grab src.rpm and recompile - and what ubuntu users should do?
[10:23] <NLS> bazhang the two most obvious locations are: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04 ...where is the DVD?
[10:23] <bazhang> ultrav1olet: build-essential to compile
[10:24] <quentusrex_> how do I tell I have a 64 bit Os if I know I have the -generic kernel?
[10:24] <mr_boo> well
[10:24] <quentusrex_> which I know is the smp kernel?
[10:24] <mr_boo> it appears as if envy doesn't do the job on the realtime kernel
[10:24] <mr_boo> crappp
[10:24] <ultrav1olet> Installing build-essential is the easiest task :-)
[10:24] <bazhang> !brainstorm | NLS
[10:24] <ubotu> NLS: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[10:24] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: you will have to download the drivers from nvidia and try to manually install. it can be a pain to get it working the first time
[10:24] <Ziroday> ultrav1olet: I am not sure if this has all the stuff you want but there is a libfree6 package
[10:24] <ultrav1olet> How can I recompile freetupe?
[10:25] <ultrav1olet> Ziroday: It's there for sure
[10:25] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: the thing is that i could use my older nvidia on both kernels
[10:25] <NLS> erm... ok thanks (!?)
[10:25] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: envy did the job for that card on both kernels
[10:26] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: well give it a shot, maybe you will be lucky
[10:27] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: gonna try
[10:27] <quentusrex_> How do I know if I have the 64-bit OS installed if I know I have the -generic kernel image.
[10:27] <mr_boo> shame that envy is so half impressing
[10:27] <mr_boo> this is a jungle
[10:28] <ushimitsudoki> quentusrex_: uname -a will show kernel look for x86_64
[10:28] <quentusrex_> Linux quentusrex-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:28] <zvacet> quentusrex_ 32
[10:29] <quentusrex_> thanks
[10:29] <tarkus> hmm, for some reason regardless of the OS im using, if i install something and try to set it up and i fail, and things just get messy trying to figure out the problem, etc.. whenever i do figure out the problem, i always have a gut feeling that there are still orphan files or something still strange about the system, and i usualy re-install the os and then do it the right way..
[10:30] <Ziroday> tarkus: and how can we help you?
[10:30] <tarkus> this gets really anoying, i guess there is no way for me to be sure that my system has no unnessesary files, and is running normally?
[10:30] <bazhang> !info deborphan
[10:30] <ubotu> deborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB
[10:30] <tarkus> Ziroday: heh, good question.
[10:31] <Ziroday> tarkus: its a hard task :), nearly impossible
[10:31] <Ziroday> tarkus: also look at localepurge
[10:31] <GeomatiLux> Hello UBUNTU chanel,
[10:31] <tarkus> Ziroday: would you say its easier on linux than win/mac though?
[10:31] <motti> pipsqeek, I don't want to install it without testing it first with a live version because my hardware tend to be problematic.
[10:32] <Ziroday> tarkus: well you can see every _single_ file, so it more possible, easier is hard to judge
[10:32] <tarkus> Ziroday: ah, gotcha
[10:33] <pipsqeek> motti: no one is installing anything. you can either liveboot with the CD, then make a USB boot disk within the live OS, or don't boot, install in a virtual machine. mount your USB key in the VM and follow instructions the same way.
[10:33] <motti> pipsqeek, also, I'm lacking the isolinux.cfg file and that is the source of my problem
[10:33] <J-Unit> how do i use clamav to scan my optical drive?
[10:33] <Ziroday> tarkus: :)
[10:33] <bazhang> motti:  it is so easy to do on ubuntu; plus a great support community
[10:33] <J-Unit> how do i use clamav to scan my optical drive?
[10:33] <motti> I'll test the virtual machine Idea
[10:34] <Ziroday> J-Unit: not familiar with clamav but I presume you could set it to scan the /media directory which would be something like /media/cdrom1
[10:34] <tarkus> my problem right now though, is i just got a vps, instaled ubuntu on it (took less than one minute), and then fussed arround with installing an AMP stack, setting up svn, trac, etc.. since i just followed documentation im not fully aware right now where everything is and whats going on.. it works, but i still feel unsettled about it.
[10:34] <pipsqeek> motti: that's how I did the EeePC install via USB.
[10:34] <bazhang> when I want orange juice I drink orange juice, not orange-based drink
[10:34] <Ziroday> tarkus: ahh thats the same with me, exactly the same feeling I had when installing my VPS
[10:34] <GeomatiLux> I A new personelised UBUNTU DVD,how can I make it's downloadable ?
[10:34] <mr_boo> now i've installed the 169.12 driver
[10:35] <Ziroday> tarkus: however I don't think this convo is suited for #ubuntu, join me in ##ziroday
[10:35] <mr_boo> that is the latest isn't it?
[10:35] <zvacet> bazhang : so you use Debian,right?
[10:35] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you want to remaster a dvd?
[10:35] <motti> bazhang, support community is great when you actually have a working and Internet surfing machine. as I could not get it to run properly it's pointless
[10:35] <GeomatiLux> yes
[10:35] <codedmind> any libmms developer ?
[10:35] <mr_boo> ushimitsudoki: do you use the 169.12 driver?
[10:35] <motti> pipsqeek, I'll check the link again
[10:35] <bazhang> zvacet: point well taken
[10:36] <zvacet> bazhang : I know
[10:36] <GeomatiLux> I'm member in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam
[10:36] <bazhang> ;]
[10:37] <GeomatiLux> TunisianTeam member search to remaster  this dvd
[10:37] <mr_boo> this is just amazing
[10:38] <mr_boo> i've installed the driver from nvidias homepage
[10:38] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ this is for cd's GeomatiLux, let me look for the dvd remaster tool
[10:38] <mr_boo> but still i can only run vesa
[10:38] <mr_boo> do you want me to express my feelings right now
[10:38] <mr_boo> omfg
[10:38] <mr_boo> this is just amazing
[10:39] <mr_boo> what am i gonna do?
[10:40] <mr_boo> i really don't want to reinstall ubuntu
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> hey where can i find my present kernel's config file
[10:40] <zvacet> mr_boo : I´m afraid that will not solve your problem
[10:41] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: seems to be the same toolkit for cd or dvd's
[10:41] <tractai83> hiiiiii
[10:41] <mr_boo> zvacet: but this other guy runs the 8800gt on the realtime kernel
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey where can i find my present kernel's config file
[10:41] <mr_boo> zvacet: why does it work for him? grrr
[10:41] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: the 25 kernel?
[10:41] <zvacet> mr_boo : Yes I sow his message
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, nope the default one ;)
[10:42] <mr_boo> zvacet: this literally drives me nuts
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: /proc/config.hz
[10:42] <ikonia> gz
[10:42] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok so can i load that config file into the new kernel??
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no
[10:42] <zvacet> mr_boo :bad karma
[10:42] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: %100 not if it's not an ubuntu packaged kernel
[10:43] <J-Unit> Ziroday, thx ill check it out later since my disc is not on me
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, hmm nope its not...i got it from kernel.org
[10:43] <mr_boo> :'''(
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, so how do i tweak the new one to make it ubuntu redy
[10:43] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: then no, and you shouldn't use vanilla kernels without an excptional reason
[10:44] <bazhang> motti: if you present your ubuntu problems then perhaps we can work them out
[10:44] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, the new kernel seems to be very good....
[10:45] <GeomatiLux> bazhang I apologize I want to put this DVD downloaded on the internet, so host a cd or DVD
[10:45] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you got that link? you sorted now?
[10:45] <GeomatiLux> Sorry I'm french speaker :)
[10:45] <skabet> I have a problem with my sound card after kernel update. I get "snd_ctl_open failed for default" error.
[10:46] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: you want to host a dvd.iso? you mean mirror the download link?
[10:46] <skabet> the card is a HD Audio
[10:46] <Freduardo> hi
[10:47] <Freduardo> Anyone know if System76 has moved away from the ubuntuforums?
[10:47] <mr_boo> i'm seriously considering to reinstall the entire os right now
[10:47] <Freduardo> or is it just due to the new layout that their forums are empty?
[10:47] <bazhang> mr_boo: any reason for the realtime kernel
[10:48] <GeomatiLux> Yes bazhang
[10:50]  * N3bunel saluta
[10:50] <zer0x333> hi all :D
[10:50] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: anything stopping you from doing so?
[10:50] <GeomatiLux> can I find a forge how host customised dvd.iso ?
[10:50] <kom6> hai
[10:50] <kom6> daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:50] <zer0x333> only 3 days! :D
[10:51] <zer0x333> 2 days! lol
[10:51] <kom6> haiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:51] <GeomatiLux> No It's simple ?
[10:51] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: these folks have net access?
[10:51] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: didn't work?
[10:52] <mr_boo> now it suddenly works
[10:52] <ushimitsudoki> mr_boo: hooray!
[10:52] <mr_boo> i had to run envy two times
[10:52] <zvacet> mr_boo :good for you
[10:52] <mr_boo> the first time it didn't complete the operation
[10:52] <mr_boo> the second time it wanted to restart
[10:53] <mr_boo> i've run envy several times before on the realtime kernel w/o success
[10:53] <mr_boo> and just suddenly it worked :)
[10:53] <mr_boo> it doesn't make sense but i'm happy now
[10:53] <mr_boo> many thanks to you ushimitsudoki and zvacet and all you guys
[10:54] <GeomatiLux> Ah yes I understand by ubuntu costumisation Kit you have net acces ?
[10:54] <GeomatiLux> Ok thank you bazhang
[10:55] <bazhang> GeomatiLux: well if they have net access they can easily download the dvd iso; iif you use the uck then you would burn the cds or dvds then distribute them most likely
[10:55] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: apologies, my screen session appears to have hung
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, nm :)
[10:55] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: you shouldn't use kernels from kernel.org with out 1.) a very good reason 2.) a solid understanding of what the kernel changes 3.) a solid understanding of the ubuntu kernel and it's changes and how the ubuntu kernel is patched and setup
[10:56]  * zer0x333 test
[10:56] <GeomatiLux> Yes this is a good Idea ,thanks
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i got the tutorial ... and will apply the same config file to it...wont do make install
[10:56] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: why would you apply the smae config file ?
[10:57] <ikonia> samne
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, as they would have the present settings ...so i wont need to scratch my head
[10:58] <voland> hi all. could anyone help me to register my nick on this irc?
[10:58] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: the present settings for an ubuntu patched and packaged kernel, that will be specific to the kernel version and patch set applied
[10:58] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: your using a totally diffeent kernel
[10:58] <ikonia> voland: join #freenode
[10:58] <voland> join #freenode
[10:58] <haha> hello
[10:58] <ikonia> voland: "/join #freenode"
[10:58] <voland> "/join #freenode
[10:59] <haha> bb
[10:59] <ere4si>  /j works
[10:59] <ikonia> voland: type everything but the " marks "/join #freenode"
[10:59] <voland> thnx, and what netx?
[10:59] <voland> thnx, and what next?
[10:59] <ikonia> type that command
[10:59] <ere4si> !register
[10:59] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, so if i apply the config file to it wont it become ubuntu patched??
[10:59] <Matias> What does ubuntu DVD include?
[11:00] <voland> !register
[11:00] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: no, it won't become ubuntu patched, and the fact that you do'nt understand the differences between a config file and a patched kernel suggests you shouldn't do this
[11:00] <ikonia> voland: type /join #freenode and ask in there
[11:00] <ikonia> voland: that command will change your channel
[11:00] <voland> ok, thank you
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok ...
[11:00] <bazhang> Matias: more than the cd
[11:03] <mbent> hi everyone, I actually have a question about the remote desktop settings in gnome. I would like to reconfigure the gnome vnc server to have a geometry of 1280x960. Is this possible?
[11:03] <jorick> i'm looking for a tool to download podcasts, anyone knows a good one? i know amarok etc... have stuff like that built in but i'd prefer some stand-alone tool
[11:04] <Pendeta> Our router/gateway has been assigned a static ip address by our isp.  Does this allow/enable us to serve a web site from a computer on our lan? It seems to me that this should be possible, but the man we hired to set it up for us said we need a second static ip address. Is this so?
[11:05] <mbent> Pendeta, if you use iptables to forward the request to an internal webserver
[11:05] <pistache> I have a problem with Audacious. It is opening new channels for files when using Jack and this uncompatible with the JackAudioserver
[11:05] <mbent> you don't need a second ip address
[11:05] <pistache> Pendeta, no you don't
[11:05] <pistache> Bo you need to set up a NAT
[11:05] <pistache> NAT for Network Adress Translation
[11:11] <Pendeta> mbent and pistache, will we need to assign a static-ip address internally to the web server on our LAN? If so, can just one computer (the server) have a static ip and the rest remain dynamic? Also, are the iptables part of Apache?
[11:11] <Cyrae> Greets, all
[11:11] <LoOoD> how an I set xfs to the be the default filesystem in a preseed file?
[11:11] <pistache> Well, you can set only a static-ip for your webserver
[11:11] <pistache> And for the others computers
[11:12] <pistache> You need to setup your DHCP system for that
[11:12] <pistache> For example, automatic adresses must be from x.x.x.3 to x.x.x.255
[11:13] <pistache> Your webserver must be x.x.x.2
[11:13] <Poul|Laptop> Hello, i have updated my xorg config and cant remember how the touchpad settings was before - but now my scroll button do not work on it - i got a acer travelmate 56xx -anyone who can direct me to a working xorg config for this?
[11:13] <pistache> And the router must be at x.x.x.1
[11:13] <pistache> Pendeta > Is it okay ?
[11:13] <ere4si> Pendeta: http://www.bauani.org/learn-linux-beginner/2006/06/virtual-hosting-behind-cabledsl-router.html
[11:14] <pistache> Hey, does anyone here is using Wine and succeded to run COD4 on Ubuntu ?
[11:14] <pistache> When I do, i have a core dump
[11:14] <ikonia> pistache: thats a tall order with the graphics requirments
[11:15] <pistache> ikonia > for COD4 ?
[11:15] <Martiini> I just compiled 2.6.25 kernel (and I got broadcom wireless working now) but lost my intel sound on HP dv6000
[11:15] <ikonia> pistache: yes
[11:15] <ikonia> Martiini: are you surprised ?
[11:15] <ikonia> Martiini: ubuntu puts a fair ammount of effort into kerneel compatability
[11:15] <Martiini> ikonia, why did I lose my sound and how will I get it back?
[11:16] <ikonia> Martiini: no idea
[11:16] <pistache> Well, are you sure ? In my mind, the problem is not for the graphics, but for the core...
[11:16] <Pendeta> pistache, thanks for the info! Thanks to mbent also, and to ere4si (I'm going to the link you give now!)
[11:16] <ikonia> Martiini: I'm not debugging yoru custom kernel errors
[11:16] <Martiini> do I need to compile kernel again?
[11:16] <corporal_clegg> hello, how can I make the key combination ALT+UP work as PageUP? I think I need xmodmap, but I don't know to to create the combination
[11:16] <ikonia> pistache: I didn't say the problem was with your graphics, but I feel it is a reasonable request to ask of a comptability layer (wine) to process that graphics of COD
[11:17] <Martiini> why would the sound stop working  after kernel recompile ?
[11:17] <ikonia> Martiini: because you've not configured it correctly ? the hardware detection system isn't working with your custom kernel ? could be anything
[11:18] <bazhang> Martiini: which kernel?
[11:18] <ikonia> bazhang: guess
[11:18] <bazhang> 25?
[11:18] <ikonia> shock horror, yes
[11:18] <Martiini> compiled 2.6.25 with 2.6.24-16 .config ... got my broadcom work but lost sound
[11:19] <protocol1> 2.6.24.16-generic
[11:19] <bazhang> Martiini: as he said that is not supported here
[11:19] <Martiini> yep
[11:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: I hope your paying attention "10:38 < Martiini> compiled 2.6.25 with 2.6.24-16 .config ... got my broadcom work but lost sound"
[11:19] <bazhang> haha
[11:19] <bazhang> poor arvind_khadri
[11:19] <boubbin> how to setup dhcp server ?
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, yeah am listening
[11:19] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: good good
[11:19] <pistache> I'm not sure I understood, but still... I watched some videos of COD4 running on Ubuntu, and I did all the requirements (wine compilation with the patch), and my system is able to play games like COD4, because I ran it on WindozeXP
[11:19] <pistache> boubin > On what ? Your computer ?
[11:20] <pistache> If it is on your network, the webinterface can manage it easily. Got to 192.168.2.1, or the adresse of your routeur
[11:20] <pistache> router, sorry
[11:20] <Martiini> bazhang,  so why did i lost my sound with new kernel .. Do i need to compile it again with some additional options?
[11:21] <Cyrae> Routeur sounds fancier, like it's real expensive or somesuch
[11:21] <ikonia> Martiini: possibly because you clearly don't pay attention to what's being said to you
[11:21] <pistache> Cyrae > well I'm french, and "routeur" is french...
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> Martini whenever you compile a kernel you should always keep the older kernel for these kinda prob;s
[11:22] <bazhang> Martiini: that kernel stuff scares me
[11:22] <Cyrae> pistache: Is it?  Well, I guess that's why it sounds fancier then :)
[11:22] <pistache> Yes, it's like "rendez-vous" or "a la carte" ^^
[11:23] <arvind_khadri> Martini and as for now no-one can help you as there a lots of places one has to look into and a lot reverse engg will be required to set things going
[11:23] <Ububegin> ;DD bye dudes
[11:23] <[volk]> does anyone know how to search urls in google using wildcards? Ex *goo*e* would match url www.google.com
[11:24] <ikonia> [volk]: thats nothing to do with ubuntu and offtopic
[11:24] <[volk]> yeah.. but there are many people here who might know the answer so I thought i'd give it a try ;)
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: that doesn't matter (I'm not smiling)
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: please respecct the channel topic there are more appropriate places
[11:25] <[volk]> ikonia: any idea where else I can ask then?
[11:25] <ikonia> [volk]: not hear
[11:25] <[volk]> ok :)
[11:25] <ikonia> here
[11:25] <Breakage> hi I need some help some themes arnt showing up under xfce user interface settings or with gtk-chtheme
[11:27] <neil_> TEST
[11:27] <neil_> pls ignore...
[11:27] <ikonia> neil_: we can see you
[11:27] <neil_> thanks
[11:27] <Dazgard> hi there
[11:28] <Dazgard> im used to rebuild certain application on my system with apt
[11:28] <Dazgard> like that : apt-get -b source package
[11:28] <Dazgard> how can i tell the system not to update them with default repository one ?
[11:28] <Dazgard> when there are the same version ?
[11:29] <ikonia> Dazgard: well your telling it to get tehe source package, so it won't update, once you've done a rebuild apt-cache policy will help you keep the version down
[11:29] <Dazgard> ﻿when they
[11:29] <Dazgard> ﻿ikonia: nope
[11:29] <Dazgard> apt-egt install -b source xxx = download, compile the package
[11:30] <ikonia> Dazgard: apt-get doesn't compile the package
[11:30] <Lamego> Dazgard, just increase the version before building the package, dont use -b
[11:30] <Dazgard> next to that, i use dpkg -i xxx to install it
[11:30] <Dazgard> ﻿ikonia: it DOES
[11:30] <_daniel_> how do you disable synaptics  touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu???
[11:30] <Lamego> ikonia, it does with -b
[11:30] <ikonia> Dazgard: once you've copiled the package use apt-cache policy to stop apt from updating the "personal" package
[11:30] <Lamego> Dazgard, apt-get source, edita debian/changelog, increase the version number, and then build it with: debuild
[11:31] <ikonia> Lamego: thats new
[11:31] <Lamego> ikonia, are not getting the problem :)
[11:31] <Lamego> you
[11:31] <pengo> i want to do a fresh install when upgrading to hardy... how do i get apt to give me all installed programs, and then to install them again?
[11:31] <ikonia> pengo: dpkg -l
[11:31] <Dazgard> ﻿Lamego: but if there is an newer version from the depot what happen ?
[11:32] <ikonia> Dazgard: apt-cache policy
[11:32] <pengo> ikonia: and is there a trick to feeding that back to "apt-get install" ? :)
[11:32] <ikonia> pengo: no
[11:32] <ikonia> pengo: simple script
[11:32] <pengo> ikonia: k thanks
[11:32] <Dazgard> ﻿ikonia: ok :)
[11:32] <Dazgard> thanks guys
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> pengo, you can do that but with a shell script
[11:33] <pengo> arvind_khadri: a ready available one or one i write myself?
[11:33] <knoppix> hellow
[11:34] <stippi> is there an Ubuntu tool to change the partition type of a partition?
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: fdisk
[11:34] <stippi> hello  btw
[11:34] <knoppix> japan
[11:34] <knoppix> ?
[11:34] <stippi> ikonia: thanks, can it change just the type and nothing else?
[11:34] <ikonia> knoppix: do you have a question
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: sudo fdisk $disk
[11:34] <ikonia> stippi: then it's menu driven
[11:35] <stippi> ikonia: thanks a bunch!
[11:35] <ikonia> welcome
[11:35] <pistache> Does fdisk format the disk ?
[11:35] <cO_suck> ttttttt
[11:35] <ikonia> pistache: no
[11:35] <ikonia> cO_suck: can we help ?
[11:35] <knoppix> help me
[11:35] <ikonia> knoppix: with what ?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> pengo, search the google,you might have to write one...well one way to go about is copy the /var/cache/apt/ to some file and put in a drive which wont be affected by the upgrade and then feed it back using re-direction
[11:35] <stippi> ikonia: one more question maybe
[11:35] <ikonia> stippi: sure
[11:35] <bazhang> !jp | knoppix
[11:35] <ubotu> knoppix: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[11:36] <protocol1> pistache, have you heard of gparted?
[11:36] <ikonia> bazhang: clearly a good call
[11:36] <stippi> ikonia: long story short, Windows appearantly fixed my installation by setting the type of the "rescue" partition to "empty"
[11:36] <ikonia> stippi: ok
[11:36] <stippi> ikonia: this appearantly shifted all my partition numbers by -1
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: I managed to get it all working again
[11:37] <pistache> protocol1 > Yes, I'm using it
[11:37] <ikonia> stippi: with you so far
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: but I am wondering, I have an extended partition
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: and grub needs the old numbers for booting stuff in logical partitions
[11:37] <stippi> ikonia: is this expected?
[11:38] <ikonia> stippi: expected, debatable, unusual, no. If your using ubuntu 7.10 investigate using uuid numbers for grub
[11:38] <stippi> ikonia: ie (hd0, 5) is still (hd0, 5), while I needed to substract -1 from all primary partitions
[11:39] <BlueMaN> s
[11:39] <stippi> ikonia: for example, if I have only one primary partition and one extended partition, would the first logical partition on the extended partition still be (hd0, 5)?
[11:40] <ikonia> stippi: grubs behaviour on this is debatable and a bit random due to the slightest changes, can alter how it behaves
[11:40] <stippi> ikonia: ok, thanks
[11:40] <pistache>  
[11:40] <fujin> well, for what it's worth guys - I'm thoroughly impressed with the Hardy RC on my desktop. The level of polish is incredible
[11:41] <pistache>  
[11:41] <fujin> anywaho, seeyas
[11:41] <pistache> I tried Hardy on a virtual machine. It rocks
[11:41] <pistache> I love the graphics
[11:41] <ikonia> !hardy | pistache
[11:41] <ubotu> pistache: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:42] <protocol1> I think Hardy rules
[11:42] <ikonia> protocol1: did you not see the message above?
[11:42] <pistache> ikonia > I know what Hardy is ^^
[11:42] <ikonia> pistache: can you not see the part that says "ubuntu+1" not ubuntu
[11:43] <protocol1> ikonia, yes ... I am just speaking on my behalf :)
[11:43] <ikonia> protocol1: then don't - this isn't a chat channel
[11:43] <ikonia> protocol1: re-read the ubotu factoid
[11:43] <pistache> yes I know but I was not really talking of it...
[11:43] <ikonia> pistache: you where
[11:43] <ikonia> please take it to ubuntu+1 or offtopic
[11:43] <pistache> Okay
[11:44] <ikonia> appriciated
[11:47] <Verichip> may i please ask a question about cronjobs?
[11:49] <ikonia> Verichip: try it
[11:49] <neo1ite> Hi, can anyone advise me on a problem im having going from 6.06LTS to 8.04LTS
[11:50] <B00L> I added the following line to visudo %group1 ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL so that group1 users do not have to supply a password.. but its not working.. any suggestions ?
[11:50] <zvacet> neo1ite what problem
[11:51] <Verichip> ikonia: newly installed system...logged in as another user...i run a cron every min for a php script to perform a mysql query...does not run when cronned...runs fine when run from commandline...log file show it running by root
[11:51] <jtravnick> is there a way to open two files in gedit without tabs? I want to be able to see both files side by side
[11:52] <Verichip> ikonia: also tried starting, and its running... crond that is...
[11:52] <Verichip> ikonia: centos5
[11:55] <DistroJockey> jtravnick: use:   gedit --new-window
[11:55] <neo1ite> has anyone else here had problems upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04?
[11:55] <jpatrick> !hardy
[11:55] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[11:55] <Verichip> ikonia: also the file was empty
[11:56] <Verichip> ikonia: when i first opened it
[11:56] <jtravnick> DistroJockey, thanks
[11:56] <DistroJockey> jtravnick: you're welcome
[11:57] <ikonia> Verichip: we don't support centos in here
[11:57] <ikonia> Verichip: try a centos channel
[11:57] <Verichip> ikonia: id, but you know we're all nix right?
[11:58] <ikonia> Verichip: no
[11:58] <Verichip> thanks ikonia
[11:58] <ikonia> Verichip: this is ubuntu support
[11:59] <KiwiJoker> has anyone had any experience with the latest rc hardy 64bit, any problems so far?
[11:59] <Daky> im back with a real irc client :p
[11:59] <KiwiJoker> *server version
[11:59] <ikonia> !hardy | KiwiJoker
[11:59] <ubotu> KiwiJoker: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[12:00] <woobit> :)
[12:00] <Mr> how do you install kde4 on ubuntu 7.10
[12:01] <newusr> hi is this a support channel  ?
[12:01] <ikonia> newusr: it is
[12:01] <zaputr_> Hello, I have ATI Mobility radeon hd2600 and install driver for it "ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64", it is work, but picture of video and games is blinking and animated screen while loading OS is not viewing
[12:01] <ere4si> !kde4
[12:01] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:01] <newusr> well i got some kinda problems here, fixed almost all of them
[12:01] <newusr> i just got one more to fix but i tried the forums and nothing worked for me
[12:02] <ikonia> newusr: ask the question about the problem you want help with
[12:02] <newusr> well the wireless stopped working
[12:02] <woobit> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop    -will install KDE
[12:02] <woobit> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[12:02] <mrkeishii> okay
[12:03] <mrkeishii> thanks
[12:04] <ikonia> newusr: is that the description of the whole problem ? what wirless card, what ubuntu version, what happend to make it stop working ?
[12:04] <zaputr_> Hello, I have ATI Mobility radeon hd2600 and install driver for it "ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64", it is work, but picture of video and games is blinking and animated screen while loading OS is not viewing
[12:04] <ikonia> zaputr_: why are you using that driver and not the package with the restricted driver manager ?
[12:04] <ikonia> zaputr_: where did you get that package and who told you to use it and why ?
[12:04] <newusr> ok ikonia
[12:06] <woobit> little off ubuntu topic maybe, but does anyone know a general hardware irc channel? Need some help/advice with my home network
[12:06] <zaputr_> restricted driver manager says that my hardware does not need for it
[12:06] <ikonia> zaputr_: are you sure
[12:06] <ikonia> woobit: yes, that is offtopic
[12:06] <ikonia> !offtopic > woobit  (see the message from ubotu)
[12:06] <MrKeishii> How do i install XFCe on Ubuntu 7.10
[12:06] <ikonia> zaputr_: so why did you get an external package ?
[12:07] <newusr> ikonia, 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: install the xfce-desktop package
[12:07] <MrKeishii> how do u do that?
[12:07] <MrKeishii> can i use the terminal?
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: sure
[12:07] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:07] <newusr> yes apt-get install MrKeishii
[12:07] <ikonia> MrKeishii: use the apt-get command
[12:07] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:08]  * A[D]minS^Work Back
[12:08] <MrKeishii> where do i find the command at?
[12:08] <zaputr_> i find only this driver for my video card and some sites recommend and told me, how to install it
[12:08] <zvacet> MrKeishii : sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:08] <PETROS073> KAPOIA PO ELLADA
[12:08] <PETROS073> KAPOIA APO ELLADA
[12:08] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:08] <MrKeishii> thanks
[12:09] <PETROS073> KAPOIA APO ELLADA
[12:09] <ikonia> PETROS073: stop please.
[12:10] <DistroJockey> !gr | PETROS073
[12:10] <ubotu> PETROS073: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:10] <newusr> ikonia, any help
[12:10] <thyko> !cd
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <ikonia> newusr: you've told me nothing other than your card version
[12:10] <thyko> !cdwriting
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdwriting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <thyko> !cd-writing
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd-writing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <newusr> what else you want to know ?
[12:10] <newusr> i asked if this is a help channel :) ikonia that means that am new :)
[12:11] <ikonia> newusr I spelt out exactly what I wanted from you, re-read my post
[12:11] <zvacet> newusr what do you want to ask
[12:12] <zaputr_> if i must to reinstall my os i will do it, but i dont know, how to find and install normal driver for my video card(ATI Mobility radeon hd2600)
[12:12] <newusr> well i have updated my system and am wireless and some other stuff stopped working i got everything back but not the wireless
[12:12] <newusr> ikonia, 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:13] <SoulChild> hey all, when using firefox some fonts are not drawn correctly, i think it is verdana,.. any ideas which package is need to be installed ?
[12:13] <ikonia> newusr: please re-read what I asked for
[12:13] <ikonia> newusr: what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:13] <zaputr_> i like ubuntu but may be anyone know distributive which works good with ATI video cards?
[12:14] <SoulChild> zaputr_: Ubuntu
[12:14] <newusr> 2.6.24-16-generic
[12:14] <newusr> Ubuntu 8.4 !
[12:14] <Peter11> :)
[12:14] <zero-cool> hello people
[12:14] <daniel_-> how do I disable  the Synaptics Touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu  7.03
[12:14] <daniel_-> ?
[12:14] <Pici> newusr: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[12:14] <newusr> hello zero-cool
[12:14] <zero-cool> whats up
[12:15] <newusr> thanks Pici
[12:15] <fayetteson> it is possible to compile a kernel that is built around specific hardware therefore making your ubuntu faster or more stable yes ?
[12:15] <sluimers> Whatś the difference between /lib /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib?
[12:15] <zero-cool> i have one problem
[12:15] <ikonia> newusr: it's not advised for a "new user" as you described yourself to use beta products
[12:16] <zero-cool> in services i have microsoft-ds
[12:16] <daniel_-> 5
[12:16] <zaputr_> SoulChild: I haven't find normal driver for it
[12:16] <ianliu_88> Using Ubuntu Gutsy: I'm having problem with changing my screen resolution. I tell Ubuntu to change it but nothing happens.. why is that?
[12:16] <sluimers> What's the difference between /lib /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib?
[12:16] <daniel_-> how do I disable  the Synaptics Touchpad  tapping  in Ubuntu  7.03?
[12:16] <achadwick> sluimers: kernel, distro userland, and locally installed userland. No need to reask.
[12:16] <ikonia> simplechat_: a path
[12:16] <sluimers> okay thanks
[12:17] <yadoorak> is there a package for roadsend?
[12:17] <simplechat_> ikonia, ??
[12:18] <ikonia> simplechat_: it's just a file system path
[12:18] <ikonia> simplechat_: oooh for sweet mercy, sorr
[12:18] <simplechat_> ike_x, what is?
[12:18] <ikonia> smurfslayer: meant that for sluimers
[12:18] <simplechat_> lol
[12:18] <simplechat_> :D
[12:18] <zaputr_> there are no drivers for ATI on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:18] <simplechat_> tab complete misuse :D
[12:18] <Pici> !ati | zaputr_
[12:18] <ubotu> zaputr_: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <ianliu_88> How can I change my screen resolution from config. files?
[12:18] <ikonia> ianliu_88: why do you not use the graphical tool
[12:19] <ianliu_88> because it is not working.. I change it but nothing happens
[12:19] <ianliu_88> ikonia: because it is not working.. I change it but nothing happens
[12:19] <gabbs> Can you setup postfix + dovecot for virtual domains and users who don't require system accounts?
[12:19] <ikonia> gabbs: yes,
[12:20] <ikonia> gabbs: there is a tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <fayetteson> it is possible to compile a kernel that is built around specific hardware therefore making your ubuntu faster or more stable yes ?
[12:20] <gabbs> ikonia, cheers
[12:20] <ikonia> fayetteson: that won't make it faster or more stable
[12:20] <ikonia> fayetteson: it's the same kernel source, use the ubuntu kernel
[12:21] <boubbin> how come, i can get ipo from my dhcp server ubuntu machine, even if the dhcp3-server is stopped ?!
[12:21] <gabbs> ikonia, the dovecot tutorial there talks about maildir and mbox setups, which means they require system users - do you mean another tutorial by any chance?
[12:21] <ikonia> boubbin: sure its not coming from a router
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: yeah, wrong turotiral, there is one where you setup 1 system acount *vmail* for example and virtual mail is stored under that
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: if you can't find it, shout and I'll dig it out
[12:22] <boubbin> ikonia there is no dhcp server there
[12:22] <gabbs> ok, I'll give google another try, cheers
[12:22] <ikonia> boubbin: you sure dhcpd is dead ?
[12:22] <ikonia> gabbs: it's on https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:22] <boubbin> ikonia :
[12:22] <boubbin> root@kahvikuppi:/home/botit# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server status
[12:22] <boubbin> Status of DHCP server: dhcpd3 is not running.
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: that doesn't mean it's not actually running
[12:23] <boubbin> oh
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: ps -ef | grep dhcp
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcp      7301     1  0 11:20 ?        00:00:00 dhclient3
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcpd    13648     1  0 13:02 ?        00:00:00 dhcpd3 -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[12:23] <boubbin> dhcp     16655     1  0 14:07 ?        00:00:00 dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth2.leases eth2
[12:23] <zaputr_> I have done it, but intalation in console says me that i have latest version of this driver
[12:23] <boubbin> killall ?
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: there it is
[12:23] <boubbin> ok
[12:23] <ikonia> boubbin: your call how you kill it
[12:23] <boubbin> thanks
[12:23] <boubbin> yeah
[12:23] <FloodBot2> boubbin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <zaputr_> restricted driver manager says that my hardware does not need for it
[12:23] <ikonia> zaputr_: probably because you have installed some other driver package
[12:24] <zero-cool> did anybody corectly whats is microsoft-ds service
[12:24] <ikonia> zero-cool: AD / Samba stuff
[12:24] <ikonia> zero-cool: (domain service)
[12:24] <ikonia> I think
[12:24] <LainIwakura> Do I need to make partitions for /tmp and /usr?
[12:24] <ikonia> LainIwakura: your call
[12:24] <zero-cool> yeah i was read that is filesharing
[12:24] <LainIwakura> ikonia: ok
[12:24] <zaputr_> i need to reinstall my system?
[12:25] <zero-cool> because i am be paranoid
[12:25] <ikonia> zero-cool: what ?
[12:25] <boobaloo> hello world
[12:25] <zero-cool> i was be paranoid when i was see microsoft ds
[12:25] <zaputr> i need to reinstall my system?
[12:26] <zero-cool> because i thinking somebody sharing my hard
[12:26] <boobaloo> rly?
[12:26] <zero-cool> i was thinking somebody share my hard
[12:26] <boobaloo> mmm okey
[12:26] <thinman1189> I already have ubuntu downloaded but I got rid of the torrent file and now I want to seed. anyway to do that without having to redownload?
[12:27] <zero-cool> this is not dangerous
[12:27] <Dr_willis> thinman1189,  you just need the .torrent file again. thats just a few K
[12:27] <achadwick> thinman1189: should just be able to re-download the .torrent and begin seeding with your currently-downloaded file(s)
[12:27] <neo1ite> !hardy
[12:28] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[12:28] <boobaloo> hey did u install 8.04 ?
[12:29] <thinman1189> achadwick I have the torrent, how do I get it to recognize the file I already have?
[12:29] <prodigel> Hi all. Is someone here knowing how ubuntu repositories are updated? I used centerim as messenging client,but from april 2th its yahoo protocol expired. I would like to use it again, installed from ubuntu repositories, not compiled,patched and debugged
[12:30] <achadwick> thinman1189: depends on the client software you use to torrent. I'd experiment a bit, see if it's making new files when you try, and stopping it if it is.
[12:30] <LainIwakura> prodigel: suto apt-get update? try pidgin, which has  almost all of the protocols
[12:30] <LainIwakura> prodigel: sudo apt-get update*
[12:30] <thinman1189> it is I'm moving the current files to the folder that azureus is pointing to
[12:31] <prodigel> LainIwakura: I have my preferences, and centerim beats pidgin there. updating didn't solve the problem
[12:31] <zero-cool> microsoft-ds is not paranoia
[12:31] <zero-cool> ?
[12:31] <zero-cool> this is samba?
[12:31] <LainIwakura> prodigel: can you search it with apt-cache search?
[12:31] <LainIwakura> prodigel: if not, search for the repository and it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <prodigel> LainIwakura: I see. practically I have to find someone who ports it to deb package.
[12:33] <LainIwakura> prodigel: so the current one on the repository won't work for you?
[12:33] <boubbin> im myu dhcpd.conf shout the "option routers" be set to the actual gateway of my isp or the ip addresss of the ip sharing network device ?
[12:33] <prodigel> LainIwakura: it's working, but yahoo protocol expired.
[12:33] <ikonia> boubbin: shout ?
[12:34] <boubbin> shout ?
[12:34] <ikonia> < boubbin> im myu dhcpd.conf shout the "option routers"
[12:34] <ikonia> ooh should
[12:34] <boubbin> oh, 'should'
[12:34] <ikonia> sorry, just clicked
[12:34] <boubbin> :)
[12:34] <ikonia> boubbin: it's set to the device you want the client to use as a router
[12:35] <boubbin> so, its the network card that is sendign the ip to it ?
[12:35] <boubbin> some internal ip anyway
[12:35] <Jackubus> quick question, just finished building my new pc.  am itching to install 8.04 ;)  do i have to wait another 2 days or are there torrents around ?
[12:35] <ikonia> boubbin: no - it's the device you want the clients to use as a router
[12:35] <ikonia> Jackubus: just wait, hardy discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[12:35] <boubbin> oh, ok
[12:36] <kelvin911> hi
[12:36] <kelvin911> anyone use wine here?
[12:36] <ikonia> kelvin911: everyone in #winehq does
[12:36] <fayetteson> no it has a bad aftertaste
[12:36] <ikonia> kelvin911: for specialist questions
[12:36] <kelvin911> but no one there atm
[12:37] <kelvin911> after i update to 0.9.58 i receive error like this GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[12:37] <ikonia> kelvin911: ok, so wait around for them to respond
[12:37] <fx|RabBitt> does anybode have an idea how much battery an external vga port consumes when switched on on a laptop?
[12:37] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: thats nothing to do with ubuntu and hardware and video card specific
[12:38] <boubbin> ikonia the client now gets the ip from the range i have set, and i can access my external static ip, it show the apache directory listing fine, but when in trying to access for example google.com it just loads forever, what im missing ?
[12:38] <Dr_willis> fx|RabBitt,  i would think very little. Since the monitor is powered elseware..
[12:38] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: ok in that case i put the question otherwise: is it a problem if fgrlx enables the vga port by fdefault by adding an according line to xorg.conf?
[12:38] <ikonia> boubbin: a route to the internet ? a gateway that can do port forwarding/masqurading/nat
[12:38] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: no, that shouldn't be a problem
[12:39] <fx|RabBitt> Dr_willis: that is what i supposed..
[12:39] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: it may effect your battery life though
[12:39] <Dr_willis> fx|RabBitt,  if you are hooked up to a powered monitor.. then.. err.. You are very close to a outlet :)  why use battery
[12:39] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: well thats the poing, cos fgrlx comes with an atieventsd that can hhandle switching it on and off but that thing is bogus
[12:40] <Dr_willis> it the port isent even being used. I dont see how it can be causing any power drain.
[12:40] <boubbin> ikonia well, i dont really know where i have to set that..
[12:40] <Gaz`> hey folks, i had to turn off my laptop because ubuntu hung (what ya meant to when that happens?) now when it boots up the menus and icons vanish just after i log in and no keyboard actions seem to do anythign
[12:40] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: speaking in terms of changes resolution but doesnt change it back and permanentlyturns on the vga external port...
[12:40] <leninia> hi
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> Dr_willis: well that wqas my ducated gueass also but i wanted to know if anyone knows for sure...
[12:41] <Gaz`> anyone got any fixes for this?
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> gosh sry for syntax, kind of tired already today...
[12:41] <zero-cool> what will be when i stopping microsoft-ds
[12:42] <Gaz`> someone must have seen this problem
[12:42] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: NOTHING MICROSOFT != linux
[12:42] <Gaz`> seems common enough
[12:42] <zero-cool> how can i stop that service
[12:42] <ikonia> zero-cool: it's samba I've told you multiple times now
[12:43] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: how does seem common to you?
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: stop samba, (smbd and nmbd) sdaemons
[12:43] <zero-cool> i am in paraoia
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: why ????
[12:43] <Gaz`> fx|RabBitt: happened to me on another laptop and i had to reinstall!
[12:43] <ikonia> zero-cool: I've told you 3 times it's samba using the microsoft-ds service
[12:43] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: killall servicename
[12:43] <zero-cool> aha
[12:43] <boulboul> j'arrive pas a installer ubuntu sur mon ordi j'arrive a l'étape 3 pour la rrepartitiont je bloc
[12:44] <fx|RabBitt> zero-cool: and to remove it permanently either uninstall it or remove the links from /etc/rc*
[12:44] <Pici> !fr | boulboul
[12:44] <ubotu> boulboul: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:45] <Gaz`> alot of good this help channel is :P
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> does anyone know where i can configure events for ati's eventsd?
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: go away pls
[12:45] <ikonia> Gaz`: what is the issue
[12:45] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: be friendly
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: ishe friendly?
[12:45] <Pici> !attitude | Gaz`
[12:45] <ubotu> Gaz`: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:46] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: that doesn't matter, be friendly to people
[12:46] <zero-cool> i was thinking somebody share my hard
[12:46] <Gaz`> ikonia: when i boot ubuntu just after login the menu vanishes, so im left with a blank screen, i cant do anything
[12:46] <zero-cool> i was reading that is samba and provides ipv 6 protocol
[12:46] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to build a package that requires ssl support.  The "configure" command cannot find openSSL.  I can find no trace of include files for it, and there is no openssl-dev package.  Ideas?
[12:46] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: i am freindly to people thaat dont insult me and above that i shall not be instructed on whom to be freindly to;)
[12:46] <fayetteson> has anyone here ever read a man page and said what the heck does that mean ?
[12:47] <Pici> fx|RabBitt: Drop it.
[12:47] <Pici> !coc > fx|RabBitt (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:47] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: the ubuntu channels says friendly and respectful to all people, telling someone to go away is not friendly or respectful
[12:47] <ikonia> Pici: too quick
[12:47] <ikonia> Gaz`: when you say login, you mean the gdm login ?
[12:47] <zaputr> the latest version jf instalation program of restricted drivers haven't find my video card
[12:47] <Gaz`> ikonia: after i enter my username and passw in the normal textfields
[12:47] <fx|RabBitt> gosh first of all how come that there always ppl involvin who have nothing to do with it
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> second if i am participating here am i part of the community then too or not?
[12:48] <ikonia> fx|RabBitt: your in a pupblic channel
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: i know and i dont wish o be insulted here
[12:48] <fx|RabBitt> neither by Gaz` nor by you ma;)
[12:49] <zaputr> the latest version of manager of restricted drivers haven't find my video card
[12:49] <Mr> how do you install Slackware on Ubuntu without removing ubuntu?
[12:49] <Gaz`> ikonia, i can get into recovery mode if that helps
[12:49] <Pici> Mr: You can't install Slackware on Ubuntu, you'd need to repartition the drive.
[12:49] <MrKeishii> oh
[12:49] <ikonia> Gaz`: one moment
[12:49] <MrKeishii> how about FreeBSD?
[12:50] <MrKeishii> how about FreeBSD?
[12:50] <milia> Mr_Sonoma, whatabout it :P
[12:50] <Pici> MrKeishii: Same thing. Unless of course you're talking about doing some sort of virtualization.
[12:50] <_MaxPower_> MrKeishii: Same deal ..
[12:50] <MrKeishii> oh
[12:50] <MrKeishii> can I run Gentoo on a 32bit laptop?
[12:51] <Pici> MrKeishii: You'd have to ask them (but probably yes), this channel is only for Ubuntu support
[12:51] <Maikiro> Hey all
[12:51] <MrKeishii> i know
[12:51] <Maikiro> I need a bit of help with Ubuntu and sound...
[12:52] <Audio_> Hello, how to avoid the 6 minutes boot??
[12:52] <_MaxPower_> MrKeishii: Read this how-to and it will answer all of your questions regarding multiple operating systems
[12:52] <_MaxPower_> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/MultiOS-HOWTO.html
[12:52] <MrKeishii> okay
[12:53] <Gaz`> hmm now ubuntu has froze
[12:53] <Gaz`> this is why i need to power off
[12:53] <Gaz`> not sure why its happening
[12:53] <Maikiro> I can get sound via Teamspeak.... but any other sounds do not work? anyone help please
[12:54] <babo> if I'm switching webhosts, i should contact my old host and ask for an EPS number for my .com domain. Then i should switch to the old host right ?
[12:54] <_MaxPower_> Gaz: try cnrl alt  F1 it will take you to a shell where you can restart the xserver
[12:54] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: this kin of smells like a wrong diver problem to me...
[12:55] <Gaz`> yeh it appears to be during fades
[12:55] <Gaz`> or opacity
[12:55] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: you are talking about a completely fresh install or how was that?
[12:55] <Gaz`> my 3d screensavers flicker too
[12:55] <Seraph101> Hello, I get "update-notifier: /opt/mono-1.9/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[12:55] <Seraph101> " when i try to start update-notifier :S
[12:55] <Gaz`> it as a fresh install yes
[12:56] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz and right after desktop initalizes everythig freezes?
[12:56] <Gaz`> only because i turned it off when it hung
[12:56] <Gaz`> i couldnt find ctrl alt del
[12:56] <bullgard4> Why renders GNOME terminal fonts differently in its normal pane from in its preview?
[12:56] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: well there aint any...
[12:57] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz can you still switch to another consloe by ctrl alt f22222 for xample?
[12:57] <Pici> bullgard4: I've never had that problem.
[12:57] <ikonia> Gaz`: apologies I had a work commitment
[12:57] <Seraph101> can anyone help me?
[12:57] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: oops meant ctrl + alt + f2 of course
[12:58] <Gaz`> trying no
[12:58] <Gaz`> w
[12:58] <kelvin911> hello after i update wine to 0.9.58 i receive error GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[12:58] <Gaz`> np ikonia
[12:59] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: just a sec im trying out sth
[12:59] <Schypher_> hi, how can I find out what module is load for my wireless PCMCIA card?
[12:59] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: do you know the name of the pcmcia card?
[12:59] <bullgard4> Pici: Most annoying here (in Hardy). A regression. Apparently my GNOME terminal displays all 109 fonts in size 8 or lower blurred.
[13:00] <esperegu> Anyone knows what might control the shift to stay on after pressing it? Is that configurable somewhere?
[13:00] <Schypher_> yes
[13:00] <jords> Schypher_L: sudo lsmod will list the modules currently loaded on your system
[13:00] <Gaz`> ctrl alt + f2 does nothing once the menus vanish, if i catch them before they do it flips to a black dos screen
[13:00] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: reboot please ut do not log in!
[13:00] <Schypher_> jords, lsmod will list the available mod or loaded mods?
[13:00] <Gaz`> fx|RabBitt: what ?
[13:01] <jords> Schypher_: Loaded
[13:01] <Pici> bullgard4: Perhaps it has something to do with font antialiasing or hinting.
[13:01] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: which is basically what it should do and btw dos -  no such thing;)
[13:01] <Schypher_> fx|RabBitt, it is a dlink g650, which uses a atheros, I assume its a ath_pci
[13:01] <Gaz`> well its a dos style window
[13:01] <Gaz`> cli
[13:01] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: do not login graphically butwhen you see the login prompt switch to some console
[13:01] <Gaz`> ok
[13:02] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: in that case do dmesg and grep for ath0
[13:02] <bullgard4> Pici: I was thinking about that and tried several antialiasing or hinting settings. No success so far with only one exception (which I reported).
[13:02] <Gaz`> fx|RabBitt so at the login prompt do ctrl alt f2?
[13:02] <Schypher_> fx|RabBitt, If i compiled a module such as madwifi, and didn't know ubuntu already have a module for the atheros chipset, how could i undo this?
[13:03] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: exactly
[13:03] <fx|RabBitt> then enter lspci and tell me if your hardware is being recognized
[13:03] <Gaz`> ok now what?
[13:03] <zzz_zzz> hi , i want to recover my root password _but_ before that i want to save the system log files (if any) to check if someone logged in before me... how?
[13:04] <Gaz`> recognises alopt of stuff
[13:04] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: you can just uninstall it and above that doies ubuntu not use madwifi for the atheros card?
[13:04] <Gaz`> startx says its already active for diaply 0
[13:04] <Gaz`> display
[13:05] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: lspci whats it say?
[13:05] <Thezanke> I have a 2.66 C2D and 4gigs ram... should I use 32 or 64 bit?
[13:05] <Schypher_> fx|RabBitt, how can I uninstall a compiled module? do I do make && make uninstall?
[13:05] <fx|RabBitt> ikonia: still there?
[13:05] <Thezanke> (I am using linux for security, becoming a CEH)
[13:05] <Gaz`> says a ton of stuff
[13:05] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  depends on what kind of work you want to do. and do you REALLy want to use all the ram.. you may be a little short on 32bit.
[13:05] <Gaz`> now it says remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[13:06] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, Security things.. but I am also running 2x 8800GTX... Idk 64bit limitations on Linux
[13:06] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: lspci says that??
[13:07] <Gaz`> no start did, lspci says toins of diff hardwares, goes right off the screen, it was booting perfectly earlier btw, i rebooted when ubuntu completely hung
[13:07] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: sec pls
[13:07] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  You might want to stick to 32bit. for better driver compatiabity.  . running 'security things' on a machine aith $500+ In video cards? heh heh...
[13:07] <Schypher_> okay
[13:07] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, haha well, I am in class for A+ Net+ CCNA MCSE CEH and CHFI... Gaming is just my hobby
[13:08] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  and that pc also serves as a space heater!
[13:08] <Gaz`> ok "rm"ing the file may have worked
[13:08]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[13:08] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, haha.. I bought the biggest case I could and put 3x more fans in it than it came with
[13:09] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, and it sits by a window AC
[13:10] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, swap size? I DO use things like VMWare and Compiz-fusion (being a gamer I enjoy eye candy)
[13:10] <Gaz`> crap its still nto working
[13:10] <Seraph101> update-notifier: /opt/mono-1.9/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[13:10] <Seraph101>  I get that when running update-notifier
[13:10] <Seraph101> can anyone help me? :S
[13:11] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  you can always add more swap partiion/files later if you want. I only enable about 512mb swap partition on 'every' hard drive i have in a machine. :)
[13:12] <fx|RabBitt> Gaz`: Schypher_ i have a client im sorry..
[13:12] <Thezanke> Dr: so 512?
[13:12] <Thezanke> Dr_willis*
[13:12] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  should be enough - you may never even use any of it.
[13:13] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, hope I dont Auto-Standby
[13:13] <Thezanke> ^.^
[13:13] <Dr_willis> auto-standby?
[13:13] <the_alamo> i have an odd glitch, when i try to open firefox my computer tries to find the file in my home directory instead of at /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5.  how do i reset the directory that it uses?
[13:13] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, I was told you need to have Sawp = Ram if you go into standby
[13:13] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, so it can back up the ram to it
[13:13] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  if you are planing on using Hibernate/suspend you will.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  but why use that on a desktopp machine. :0
[13:14] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, Probably wont lol
[13:14] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  of couse the suspend/hibernate stuff has its OWN set of issues.
[13:14] <vo> hey, is there an easy way to find out whether a disk (e.g. /dev/hdb) is PATA or SATA?
[13:14] <vo> from the command line
[13:14] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, how are the drivers for this space heater? last time the 8800 was iffy.. and II've gotten a 2nd one since then
[13:14] <Dr_willis> vo check dmesg output from when it boots? perhaps.
[13:15] <ikonia> vo: hd = pata
[13:15] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  my 8800gtsxxx = works fine.
[13:15] <umbrualbert> If I have 4Gig Ram, how big should my swap file be?
[13:15] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, awesome
[13:15] <Dr_willis> umbrualbert,  depends on what you want to do. and if you want to use hibernate/suspend
[13:15] <shane2peru> anyone get the Ubuntu 64bit server 8.04 release candidate installed properly?
[13:16] <vo> ikonia, is that always the case? because i did lspci and this computer has a SATA controller in it, i was just thinking maybe it's one of those controllers that "fakes IDE"
[13:16] <umbrualbert> I would like to use hibernate/suspend
[13:16] <vo> rather than one that shows up as a scsi device
[13:16] <shane2peru> I tried installing the 64bit server 8.04 and it got to the package selection and failed.
[13:16] <Dr_willis> umbrualbert,  then you want swap = ram or higher then. i hear.
[13:16] <marcoli> hi all..i have just installed ubuntu gutsy.. i have a problem in receiving an ip address from my router. if i run dhclient on eth0(my ethernet interface) works fine. if i do the same on eth1 (wireless with ipw2200 driver) no dhcp offers.. any idea??
[13:16] <shane2peru> I checked the md5sums, they were fine
[13:16] <shane2peru> I checked the disk with jigdo and it is fine too.
[13:17] <umbrualbert> cool beans...thanks
[13:18] <mangosteen> hey im new to Ubunto any swedes in here who can help?
[13:18] <umbrualbert> Has anyone installed hardy on a Dell XPS 1730
[13:18] <shane2peru> no 64bit server 8.04 users out there?
[13:18] <Exteris> !swe | mangosteen
[13:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:18] <mangosteen> trying to install internet explorer after swedish directions
[13:19] <mangosteen> Exteris: are u swedish?
[13:19] <Exteris> mangosteen, why would you want internet explorer (no i'm not)
[13:19] <icesword> !info ie4lin
[13:19] <ubotu> Package ie4lin does not exist in gutsy
[13:19] <icesword> !info ie4linux
[13:19] <ubotu> Package ie4linux does not exist in gutsy
[13:19] <mangosteen> im trying to make a webbshop and have to try it in i explorer too
[13:19] <mangosteen> icesword: what u mean?
[13:20] <Schypher_> Exteris, if you were a developer and wants your webpage to support IE as well as Mozilla, then you probably wants IE
[13:20] <Exteris> Schypher_, i am a webdev, but i prefer keeping standards and keeping designs simple
[13:20] <Exteris> !info ies4linux
[13:20] <ubotu> Package ies4linux does not exist in gutsy
[13:20] <Jason> Is there any way to make 32bit linux use all of the ram? I have 4GB of ram, Q6600, 8800GTX, and it only shows 2.71GB. :(
[13:20] <Exteris> it's called ies4linux i think, google it
[13:20] <ru`> who needs fancy designs
[13:20] <ru`> plain text works great!
[13:21] <Exteris> Jason, that's your mobo's fault
[13:21] <Jason> yeah well..can i fix it ;x
[13:21] <appelza> how would I get this installed:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server
[13:21] <mangosteen> Exteeris : i have a webssite sweish wich directions i follor
[13:21] <appelza> apt-get install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server cant find it
[13:21] <mangosteen> but it ask for  wine first
[13:21] <DJones> !ies4linux
[13:21] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[13:22] <vo> Exteris, neither IE nor Firefox nor Opera adhere to standards. Making a web page that works across multiple browsers is often more important to web developers than standards which none of the browsers really adhere to
[13:22] <Schypher_> Exteris, what does standards and design got to do with IE?
[13:22] <appelza> how would I get this installed:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-server
[13:22] <Exteris> vo, i adhere to standards when i code, or at least i validate to them
[13:22] <Gaz`> this is crappy, ubuntus menus just vanish when it boots
[13:23] <Jason> Exteris: Is there any way to make my mobo gain more? It's a 680i
[13:23] <vo> Exteris, that's good, you should. but that doesn't have anyhting to do with whether your site works on many browsers.
[13:23] <Schypher_> Gaz`, install windows.
[13:23] <Gaz`> lol
[13:23] <Gaz`> just wiped the damn thing
[13:23] <Exteris> Jason, at least i think your mobo is limiting it, you should try reading up about !highmem
[13:23] <Schypher_> lindows?
[13:23] <Slart> Gaz`: are you talking about the boot splash screen?
[13:23] <Jason> !highmem?
[13:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about highmem? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:23] <Ubluzok> Hello friends I have a problem with signature of package repository, how can I fix it???
[13:24] <Exteris> vo, but if I keep it simple enough all browsers will follow :P
[13:24] <Exteris> !higmem | Jackubus
[13:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about higmem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:24] <Exteris> :(
[13:24] <Jason> Hmmmm.
[13:24] <Slart> Gaz`: the black one.. with a orange loading bar
[13:24] <Gaz`> Slart, on i mean after i enter my details to log in the tune plays the menus appear then they just dissapear and im left with an empty scren
[13:24] <Gaz`> on=no
[13:24] <Jason> I mean, i expect not to see all 4gb, but
[13:24] <Jason> 1.3gb is a pretty big drop
[13:24] <vo> Exteris, true, it is a good practice.
[13:24] <warnet> #surabaya
[13:25] <n-iCe> Hello last advice until try to connect via wireless to other modem? My problem was that my wireless detect networks but didn't want to connect to other modem in mine works, people have told me about change channel, check the mac filter, any other idea?
[13:25] <Schypher_> Gaz, are you installing this on an old laptop ?
[13:25] <Thezanke> Dr_willis, able to run SLI? or is that a nono?
[13:25] <Slart> Gaz`: ah.. probably nautilus that crashes then..can you access a console? alt+ctrl+f1 (remember, alt+f7 to get back)
[13:25] <mangosteen> Exteris: on this page i follow the directionshttp://ubuntu-bossieman.blogspot.com/2007/01/att-kra-internet-explorer-i-ubuntu.html, but when i am in the folder cd ies4linux-* and try intall ./ies4linux it says that i need to install wine first but isnt that already done, see directions?
[13:25] <Gaz`> no its a Sony Vaio TX
[13:25] <Exteris> Jason, http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=660440
[13:25] <Jason> Thanks :D
[13:26] <Schypher_> Gaz`, what graphic card have you got?
[13:26] <Gaz`> not sure
[13:26] <b0x> what is Dapper Drake
[13:26] <b0x> ?
[13:26] <Gaz`> Slart i`ll try, i can only do that just before it freezes up
[13:26] <Jason> Brb, gonna try this, thanks Exteris.
[13:26] <Slart> b0x: an older version of ubuntu
[13:26] <b0x> oh ok
[13:26] <zzz_zzz> :( noone talks to me....
[13:26] <milia> are nvidia-glx-new/-glx drivers for 32bit ubuntu only ?
[13:26]  * b0x slaps zzz_zzz in the face and yells "I'm Rick James, bitch!"
[13:26] <Slart> Gaz`: ahh. it freezes.. then it won't do you any good I guess
[13:26] <erUSUL> !dapper
[13:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[13:27] <Slart> Gaz`: what kind of graphics card?
[13:27] <soumyadeep> Hi
[13:27] <Gaz`> well mouse still works but i cant get to any consoles
[13:27] <milia> !nvidia-glx
[13:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:27] <milia> !nvidia
[13:27] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:27] <elevation> ﻿Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG   HELP NEEDED!
[13:28] <Schypher_> !ndiswrapper
[13:28] <Exteris> mangosteen, sudo apt-get install wine
[13:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:28] <bullgard4> What file includes the font family 'Monospace'? Is it /var/lib/defoma/pango.d/id-cache.monospace_iso10646?
[13:28] <Schypher_> Gaz`, I assume it is an intel gfx card?
[13:28] <Gaz`> yes Schypher_
[13:29] <mouse> hello
[13:29] <Schypher_> Gaz`, can you see the mouse pointer?
[13:29] <mouse> ehehhe
[13:29] <Gaz`> yes i can Schypher_
[13:29] <himanshu> hi
[13:30] <b0xxy> how do i go about uninstalling an eggdrop? just delete the folder?
[13:30] <mangosteen> Exteris: oki i did this, before sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine cabextract before , shouldnt that do it?
[13:30] <jrib> b0xxy: how did you install it?
[13:31] <Gaz`> if i do ctrl alt f2, then i rm the lock on some file, then i do lt f7, then ctrl alt f2 then ctrl f7, it comes back to the normal gui - doe that prove anything?
[13:31] <b0xxy> ./configure > make install > make
[13:31] <Exteris> mangosteen, yes
[13:31] <n-iCe> nobody?
[13:31] <Exteris> mangosteen, start 'wine notepad' first, that should create the wine directory in /home/user/.wine
[13:32] <jrib> !helpme | n-iCe
[13:32] <Slart> Gaz`: while you're in that console.. try running "nautilus&" .. see if that gets you your icons back
[13:32] <ubotu> n-iCe: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[13:32] <mangosteen> Exteris:im new to ubuntu, how do i start wine note pad
[13:32] <geminidomino> (Gutsy) Can anyone think of a reason that the mysql cli client will try to find the socket at /tmp/mysql.sock despite being at /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock? All google keeps telling me is to edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf which I have already done.
[13:32] <Gaz`> everything is well slow, shall i just reinstall???/
[13:33] <Exteris> mangosteen, in a terminal, type: wine notepad
[13:33] <Slart> Exteris: wineprefixcreate might also be a good thing to try..
[13:33] <zzz_zzz> **something really simple people....:i want to recover my root password _but_ before that i want to save the system log files (if any) to check if someone logged in before me... i am sure this is possible but how? any link i should consider
[13:33] <jrib> b0xxy: in the future, you should use APT to install things.  Then you can remove it with apt.  Yes, you can just delete the directory now.  Or check if there is an uninstall rule in the Makefile and use 'make uninstall'
[13:33] <Exteris> Slart, ya
[13:33] <jrib> !apt > b0xxy (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:33] <Exteris> zzz_zzz, /var/log/auth.log
[13:33] <jrib> !root | zzz_zzz
[13:33] <ubotu> zzz_zzz: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:34] <jrib> zzz_zzz: there is no root password by default
[13:34] <n-iCe> Hello last advice until try to connect via wireless to other modem? My problem was that my wireless detect networks but didn't want to connect to other modem in mine works, people have told me about change channel, check the mac filter, any other idea?
[13:34] <Gaz`> hmm
[13:34] <umbrualbert> Cant get Atheros wireless drivers to work in Hardy
[13:34] <Gaz`> i`ll have to reinstall from scratch, really puts you off
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Thezanke,  i hear the drivers can do sli.. but  ive never used sli. I find it a bit on the overkill/useless side.
[13:35] <Gaz`> all because i rebooted
[13:35] <jrib> umbrualbert: hardy help in #ubuntu+1
[13:35] <umbrualbert> Thanks
[13:35] <Dr_willis> 'reinstalling all the time' is windows  thinking...
[13:35] <Dr_willis> Linux lets you get under the hood and tinker and figure out whats wrong/fix things.
[13:36] <Gaz`> Dr_willis: i know totally, as is "i better reboot" but what can i do, it worked fine after the install and now it doesnt and i dont have the expertise to fix/diagnose
[13:36] <mangosteen> exteris: its seem to have frozen on 9 % when connecting to wine.budgetdedicatedcom
[13:36] <mangosteen> 0 %
[13:36] <zzz_zzz> jrib Exteris : ok,agreed(my sudo password...) im on livecd now and i want to make a copy of my system log... how? not really an expierinced user...
[13:36] <LordCrimson> hello, could somebody give some hint, what to do with internal modem on laptop (It comes with audio there, smartlink drivers do not work there (I compiled new patched version, that in distro are broken for current kernel)
[13:36] <Gaz`> id gladly fix if i knew how
[13:37] <mangosteen> Exteris: it failed to fetch hmm
[13:37] <Exteris> zzz_zzz, mount the directory your ubuntu is on, and copy the entire directory /var/log
[13:37] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  i havent paied attention to the problem. so cant help ya. some times it just pays to hunker down and do some reading and learn some linux.
[13:37] <Exteris> mangosteen, do you have a recent version of the script?
[13:37] <mangosteen> Exteris: dont know raun update or?
[13:37] <Gaz`> Dr_willis ive no clue here tho it just hangs randomyl
[13:38] <mangosteen> run
[13:38] <zzz_zzz> exteris : ok the commands..?
[13:38] <Gaz`> Dr_willis: menus appear then vanisg after a bootup
[13:38] <jrib> zzz_zzz: you know how to reset your password?  Why don't you just reset your password and then copy the log files?
[13:38] <Marfi> *waves to everyone*
[13:38] <zach__> is there a way to get a better resolution in ubuntu 8.04? im stuck at 800x600 and when i enable the restricted drivers for my card they "uncheck" when i restart.
[13:38] <Exteris> zzz_zzz, you can just mount the disk in nautilus (pick the right one) and go to 'var' and then copy the dir 'log'
[13:39] <mangosteen> Exteris: the homepage said easy to install internet explorer, yeah for someone who knows the basic maybe:p
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  that can be hard to troubleshoot.. id test out the various live cd distros and perhaps the hardy live cd. see if they have similer issues.
[13:39] <neo1ite> !ubuntu-base
[13:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-base - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:39] <jrib> zach__: hardy help is in #ubuntu+1
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  now a days it seems a lot of issues are always video card driver related. sadly
[13:39] <zach__> thanks
[13:39] <MadBus> when the ubuntu site says "Ubuntu CDs contain only free software applications; we encourage you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.", do they mean free as in beer or free as in speech?  Is Ubuntu FOSS?
[13:39] <nickthorley> is everyone getting ready for thursdays release?
[13:39] <jrib> !password > zach__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:40] <Exteris> mangosteen, no it is quite easy, but do you want more help with it?
[13:40] <erUSUL> MadBus: the later
[13:40] <milia> nickthorley, hehe yeah
[13:41] <MadBus> erUSUL, If Ubuntu is fully FOSS then, why gobuntu?
[13:41] <bloodninja> hi
[13:41] <bloodninja> does anyone wants to buy my LEGO?
[13:41] <erUSUL> MadBus: "Ubuntu CDs contain .... " ubuntu cd do not include the aviable repositories
[13:41] <bloodninja> erUSUL wanna buy my lego?
[13:42] <erUSUL> MadBus: there are non free software on unbuntu repos
[13:42] <jrib> !offtopic | bloodninja
[13:42] <ubotu> bloodninja: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:42] <Dassouki> other than abiword, and openoffice? what are some other word processing tools that have excellent grammar and formatting features?
[13:42] <MadBus> erUSUL, but the default install of Ubuntu, without add-ins is fully FOSS?
[13:42] <bloodninja> i like open office
[13:42] <bloodninja> its free
[13:42] <bloodninja> :D:D:D
[13:42] <erUSUL> MadBus: i already said yes ;)
[13:42] <MadBus> Dassouki, Koffice, gnome-office
[13:43] <niadh> I've somehow managed to delete the gnome applet that has the pidgin/banshee etc icons which allow you to control the media player and IM status, and I can't find what it might be called to readd it, can someone tell me what it's called?
[13:43] <Exteris> Dassouki, abiword
[13:43] <ancientadm> irc.freenode.net
[13:43] <nickthorley> does anyone know why ubuntu is being released with a beta version of firefox and why they didnt opt for a stable release and then upgrade later?
[13:43] <bloodninja> btw, my GRUB bootloadddddder stalls the whole time when I boot my laptop. Its says ive got press CTRL+ - + D and then       it will continue. Anyone knows how to solve?
[13:44] <fx|RabBitt> Dassouki: latex
[13:44] <fx|RabBitt> bibtex
[13:44] <bloodninja> anyone??
[13:44] <niadh> nickthorley: Dunno, but they did the same with gaim, one version of ubuntu had gaim2beta6
[13:44] <Gaz`> Dr_willis: it was all perfect but then it hang and i had to turn off the computer without rebooting, could that affect
[13:44] <bloodninja> hello?
[13:45] <Dassouki> fx|RabBitt, latex is great, but i write 20 to 40 page documents.
[13:45] <bloodninja> being ignored
[13:45] <paper8_1> #wikipedia-it
[13:45] <jrib> nickthorley: because after releases, upgrades are mostly made for security issues, not features.  And then everyone will complain about the old version
[13:45] <fx|RabBitt> Dassouki: well then it is even grater?
[13:45] <niadh> bloodninja: Or perhaps no-one knows how to solve the problem
[13:45] <jrib> !patience | bloodninja
[13:45] <ubotu> bloodninja: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:46] <bloodninja> well now i get a answer
[13:46] <Dassouki> fx|RabBitt, can i do grammar checks in latex?
[13:46] <bloodninja> tel me that wasnt hard eh
[13:46] <nickthorley> jrib: oh ok so if they included v2 then we wouldnt see v3 till new release
[13:46] <shif1> heya all, got a bit of a usb hub problem, i'm getting messages in dmesg output saying various different things, all with err = -71, anyone know what that might mean?
[13:46] <fx|RabBitt> Dassouki: grammar idont know but spell sure
[13:46] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  really shouldent affect much. since the filesystem should get chedked at boot up.  You may want to try the hardy release when it comes out in a few days. (1 day?) see if it has better drivers for your system
[13:46] <jrib> nickthorley: that's my guess
[13:47] <bloodninja> Anyone knows how to fix my cardreader? I use KUBUNTU but it doesnt sees my reader
[13:47] <Gaz`> Dr_willis. ah yes i read about that on bbc.co.uk, ok mate i might just do that, in the mean time im gonna reinstall!! >.<
[13:47] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  internal in a laptop?
[13:47] <bloodninja> Dr willis: yes
[13:47] <bloodninja> Its a
[13:47] <bloodninja> forgot the name...
[13:47] <bloodninja> Starts with a R
[13:47] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  get a $5  15 in one  USB reader. :) with some laptops/internal card readers only some of the slots will work.. depoending on the chipset/laptop/other things..
[13:48] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  mine can read SD cards. but not the sony memory stick for example.
[13:48] <Schypher_> where can I find ath_pci.ko?
[13:49] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  its just that some of the drivers for all the readers/card types may not exist  in some cases. :(
[13:49] <bloodninja> The problem is I dont want an external... you always have to carry it with you! And the strage thing is when i type the LSPCI commaaaaaaaaand it sees my CR buttttttt it wont work. Also my keyboard ismessed up that whhhhhhy I sometimes type those long LLLLLLLLLLLL or HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
[13:49] <niadh> Oh, the applet i needed is called notification area, fair enough.
[13:49] <Schypher_> I've done ls -al * |grep ath in /lib/modules but no result
[13:49] <aldin> i have user with /bin/false, but i want him to be able to run his crontab, btw i can edit his crontab as crontab -e -u wwwuser, and put one webalizer line, since he has not /bin/bash (he has /bin/false), is it possible for wwwuser to run that webalizer, i know that i can put that command in root's crontab, but would like to stick it to wwwuser's crontab if possible - perhaps there is a way to enable only few commands for some users?
[13:49] <shif1> if i turn the hub off, disconnect it, turn it back on, then connect it again, i get it found, 4 ports detected, then an error message "config failed, can't get hub status (err -32)
[13:50] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: ath0 is the name of the ethernet interface no such module
[13:50] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: the module would be for example madwifi or wpa_supplicant
[13:51] <bloodninja> dr wiiiiiiillus, in other linux distros my CR works, but in ubuntu not... I only have chosen UBUNTU because my WLAN works without problems!
[13:51] <fx|RabBitt> Schypher_: are you still trying to uninstall?
[13:51] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  the next ubuntu release may have better drivers for your specific card reader.
[13:51] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  in that case it may be the next reelase will let it work. since it has a newer kennel
[13:51] <n-iCe> Hello last advice until try to connect via wireless to other modem? My problem was that my wireless detect networks but didn't want to connect to other modem in mine works, people have told me about change channel, check the mac filter, any other idea?
[13:52] <bloodninja> dr willis, its a RICOH CO LTH
[13:52] <bloodninja> dr willis, formiliar with it?
[13:52] <bloodninja> familiar*
[13:53] <the_alamo> i posted a thread about a problem i am having with firefox.  if anyone is interested here is the link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762598
[13:53] <Dr_willis> bloodninja,  thers dozens of types of those things. :)  get hardy in a few days and try it - is proberly the easiest thing to do.
[13:54] <bloodninja> dr willis, ok i will give it a go, but will it work on my 1.3 ghz MOBILE CELERON with 512 mb ddr2 internal memory?
[13:54] <n-iCe> bye
[13:54] <bloodninja> cu
[13:54] <thezanke> does it generally take a while for the ubuntu disc to startup? I had a black and orange bara scrolling back and forth for like 3 minutes and now I have a black screen with a blinking cursor at the top right for like the last 2
[13:55] <thezanke> top left*
[13:55] <bazhang> thezanke: what cpu how much ram what vid card
[13:55] <milia> Dr_willis, do you think Hardy will support geforce 8XXX cards? or are they supported by Gutsy as well ?
[13:55] <bloodninja> milia, do you play games with ur pc if you have 8xxxxxxx?
[13:55] <Exteris> milia, i have a 8400GS here
[13:56] <bloodninja> on Linuuuuuux I ment
[13:56] <thezanke> bazhang, 2.66 c2d, 4gigs, gforce 8800gtx *2
[13:56] <bloodninja> exteris do you play games on linux/
[13:56] <Exteris> thezanke, the livecd takes it time to boot, but if it takes much longer it could be a driver issue
[13:56] <Dr_willis> milia,  my 8800gtsxxx has worked fine for ages under ubuntu. :)
[13:56] <milia> Exteris, i have 8400M G, bloodninja i dont have 3d accel on my laptop yet
[13:56] <bloodninja> a game with you need like opengl or directx?
[13:56] <unknownamerican> does java work with 64 bit
[13:56] <Exteris> bloodninja, i did some time ago, i now have a separate windows install
[13:56] <bloodninja> ok dualboot
[13:56] <bloodninja> :D
[13:57] <milia> Dr_willis, ah.. hmm.. so maybe the nvidia-glx/-glx-new drivers are only for 32bit OS ?
[13:57] <milia> :}
[13:57] <bloodninja> dr wilis wil hardy run on myyyyyyyy 1.3 ghz celeron and 512 mb ram?
[13:57] <bazhang> thezanke: this is the livecd? that is very odd with such a good system
[13:57] <milia> bloodninja, you can try it out :P
[13:57] <bloodninja> milia, copy that:p
[13:57] <unknownamerican> duell boot i wouldnt have it any other way
[13:57] <milia> how can the man know
[13:57] <Paavi2_0> bloodninja: will most definitelyrun
[13:57] <b4l74z4r> there's a bug in rhythmbox concerning radio streams; when you stop a stream and start it again, rhythmbox doesn't display the artist - track info, you have to start a different stream and then start the stream you stopped in order for it to display the song info
[13:57] <unknownamerican> i type realy slow
[13:57] <bloodninja> milia, i must say DSL works fine :D
[13:57] <milia> 710 will run though, it runs on my 900mhz/384ram
[13:57] <milia> bloodninja, he he
[13:57] <thezanke> bazhang, i have always had weird troubles with linux (this is like my 8th time installing over 6 years)
[13:57] <bloodninja> milia, ive got 710 now
[13:58] <Marfi> bloodninja, should. runs on my centrino
[13:58] <thezanke> bazhang, on multiple computers too
[13:58] <bazhang> thezanke: this will be a dual boot or only ubuntu
[13:58] <unknownamerican> java does not supor 64 unless im wrong
[13:58] <milia> bloodninja, well you can always put window maker for desktop manager if gnome stalls the machine
[13:58] <thezanke> bazhang, yes. dual boot
[13:58] <sami> I'm wondering. When debian installer is about to finish and checking apt sources and stuff. Is there anyway to preseed that for a "netless" install?
[13:58] <bloodninja> oke wicked, my virtualbox innotek works slow, anyone knows howwwwww to make it faster?
[13:58] <unknownamerican> im trying to get iut to wor on debian 64
[13:58] <thezanke> bazhang, i trust ubuntu cant harness 2x 8800GTX
[13:58] <bloodninja> milia what u mean?
[13:58] <unknownamerican> and nothing
[13:58] <Paavi2_0> b4l74z4r: it might not be rhythmbox's fault, some times some streams do it with other players too
[13:59] <milia> bloodninja, i mean, instead of using gnome, use windowmaker
[13:59] <bazhang> thezanke: some use sli yes
[13:59] <neeto> What's a good screencap program that can record videos?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> milia,  i dont use 64 bit disrto. Ive no need for them/nothing to gain.
[13:59] <bloodninja> milia, why not kde?
[13:59] <milia> you can download it using sudo apt-get install wmaker, and when loging in select session "window maker'
[13:59] <thezanke> bazhang, still blinking ;_;
[13:59] <unknownamerican> ice tea doesnt suport 64 bit i think
[13:59] <milia> bloodninja, kde will be heavy for your machine
[13:59] <milia> i guess
[14:00] <b4l74z4r> Paavi2_0, i've tried it with exaile and it doesn't have that problem
[14:00] <Paavi2_0> isn't kde lighter than gnome?
[14:00] <milia> but if you scroll up, i used the phrase  'if it stalls then put wmaker'
[14:00] <unknownamerican> on the otherhand it lets it install
[14:00] <bloodninja> oke wicked, i use kde now... i prefer it better than gnome.. and xfce sucks 111111100 %
[14:00] <bazhang> thezanke: you check the md5 sum on that card; also try starting up with the vesa driver
[14:00] <LordCrimson> one more. What is utility, i can check what a audio-modem is installed on my laptop?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> i would think it would be the 'games/drivers' that utilize the sli feature of the cards.. not ubuntu.. :) of course if you enabel ALL the compiz eye candy.. you may need SLI i guess.
[14:00] <milia> if it doesn't do whatever you like
[14:00] <unknownamerican> just doesnt work
[14:00] <milia> Paavi2_0, dunno, it seemed to me its a bit heavier
[14:00] <Gaz`> there must be million of people who cant get this to work on their h/w, thats why MS is gonna lead for a bit longer
[14:00] <milia> i might be wrong
[14:01] <Dr_willis> Ive ran gnome and kde both on very low end machines. :) it all depends on your needs.
[14:01] <void^> unknownamerican: java is available on 64bit, sun doesn't offer a browser plugin though.
[14:01] <Paavi2_0> b4l74z4r: you'll have to live with that problem then
[14:01] <unknownamerican> when will 64 bit arch become standard
[14:01] <milia> Dr_willis, :)
[14:01] <bluemeus> hi. just one question, im new to ubuntu. how can i set up an onboot mount to my hdd's f.e. hda1?
[14:01] <bazhang> Gaz`: meet our new friends wubi and unetbootin
[14:01] <Marfi> i just googled windowmaker manager. WOW........
[14:01] <Gaz`> not heard of them
[14:01] <bloodninja> i ran windows xp on a 233 mhz with 32 mb ram........ it ran but you dont wanna know hoooooow slow
[14:01] <Warp4> bluemeus, it should do that autmatically
[14:01] <milia> Marfi, its marvelously minimal ;)
[14:01] <thezanke> bazhang, checking for defects on cd.. what do i do to start with vesa?
[14:02] <Paavi2_0> b4l74z4r: i wish that they'd fix that problem (plus dozen of others)
[14:02] <Dr_willis> unknownamerican,  the hardware is very common now a days.. now the use of the 64bit OS.. may take another year or 2
[14:02] <bloodninja> marfi,,,,,,, i searched for it too, cant say im inpressed
[14:02] <bazhang> Gaz`: the totally easy way to install ubuntu (wubi) and the net install (unetbootin)
[14:02] <Marfi> milia, ill take xface. =)
[14:02] <Marfi> bloodninja, agreed
[14:02] <Gaz`> bazhang sweet!!
[14:02] <bluemeus> this is not the case Warp4
[14:02] <Marfi> looks like something from the 90's
[14:02] <milia> Marfi, no prob :)
[14:02] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  vmware or virtualbox under windows - is handy also to toy with linux
[14:02] <bloodninja> ive got to go, need to study
[14:02] <bluemeus> i have to mount it every startup by entering sudo pass
[14:03] <bloodninja> thanks all and good afternoon
[14:03] <unknownamerican> a few years back all anyone was talking about was 64 bit now its old news
[14:03] <bazhang> thezanke: checking for defects is different than md5sum check of iso (though both are good) vga=771 or thereabouts from the Fx (1-6) you can check initial screen
[14:03] <Ace_NoOne> anyone familiar with cURL / WebDAV? I can copy files to my WebDAV server using Nautilus, but "curl -T foo bar" returns "method PUT not allowed"
[14:03] <unknownamerican> how conveniant for the manufacturs
[14:04] <bluemeus> is there an possibility set it up by gnomemanagement?
[14:04] <unknownamerican> to be honest 64 bit is good but not great
[14:05] <zzz_zzz> i looking for a second logging programm any suggestions?
[14:05] <Gaz`> if ive gotthe ubuntu cd in on ubuntu how do i start an install
[14:05] <unknownamerican> try useing linux
[14:06] <Dr_willis> unknownamerican,  of course only recently has 4+gb of ram gotten affordable.
[14:06] <sergio__> sera
[14:06] <unknownamerican> tru
[14:06] <bazhang> Gaz`: the livecd? just click the install icon on the desktop
[14:06] <joep> Hello, Has anybody experience with permissions for access by stations in a small network?
[14:06] <Gaz`> bazhang isnt that just in windows tho
[14:06] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  you boot live cd. click on the isntaller icon. you 'dont reinstall ubuntu from inside ubuntu'
[14:06] <unknownamerican> im just saying that it was like 64 is the future  or die and thats nowher near reality
[14:07] <Gaz`> it wont boot from it for some reason
[14:07] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  the newer release has a wubi installer (that  i dont suggest)
[14:07] <bluemeus> Warp4, can you help me?
[14:07] <murlidhar> Gaz`, i don't remember but there is some tutorial on how to install ubuntu on the wiki
[14:07] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  You sound like you are having all sorts of weird hardware issues...
[14:07] <aguy> jeah WUBI
[14:07] <milia> unknownamerican, once programs are being written for 64b then it'll be reality...
[14:07] <unknownamerican> a few years ago
[14:07] <Gaz`> this has been my experience of ubuntu on about 15 diff machines
[14:07] <Gaz`> ive never seen it "work" yet
[14:07] <unknownamerican> ok maybe i put a little too much on it but thats what i heard
[14:07] <Yoshi_Matrix> wow
[14:08] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  same cd disk? could be the disk
[14:08] <Gaz`> just as i begin to love it it does somethign weird
[14:08] <Gaz`> seems fine for a day or so usually
[14:08] <thezanke> bazhang, yatzee
[14:08] <Dr_willis> Gaz`,  ive installed on dozens of machines/laptops with very few issues.
[14:08] <aguy> jeah, sometimes weird
[14:08] <Yoshi_Matrix> Installed perfect on my ThinkPad
[14:08] <Gaz`> well everythign weas perfect
[14:08] <bazhang> thezanke: yahtzee? the game?
[14:08] <Gaz`> for a day or so
[14:08] <Gaz`> then it startrs to hang
[14:08] <milia> Yoshi_Matrix, thinkpads are perfect
[14:08] <milia> ;)
[14:08] <aguy> i bet even Dr_willis will not succed with my laptop
[14:08] <unknownamerican> funny thing is most 64 first gen 64 chips are almost obsolete
[14:08] <thezanke> bazhang, its working... I was declaring that we won
[14:09] <Yoshi_Matrix> I love mine milia
[14:09] <bazhang> thezanke: ah nice going ;]
[14:09] <linuxistiphone> hello, I am usin Linux Ubuntu, and I wonder why can't I unlock my iphone to get it working on GSM in linux ubuntu?
[14:09] <Gaz`> so you cant initiate a new install from ubuntu desktp ?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> aguy,  on onelaptop i had the clock was running at 5x normal speed. :) 5 min ticked off every min.. heh.. that was interesting to troubleshoot..  a bios update fixed that one.
[14:09] <milia> Yoshi_Matrix, i'd love mine too :}} maybe some time i'll have the money to afford such a beauty :}
[14:09] <unknownamerican> min k8 3600+
[14:09] <bazhang> linuxistiphone: need to unlock with iTunes iirc
[14:10] <unknownamerican> 2.8ghz
[14:10] <unknownamerican> 64 bit arch
[14:10] <Yoshi_Matrix> awww milia you can pick them up relatively cheap used but in great condition these days
[14:10] <aguy> Dr_willis, i dont see anyway to get linux on my hp dv 6011es. even the bios update, people mentionend for similiar machinens didnt work
[14:10] <linuxistiphone> bazhang: is it impossible to run itunes with wine?
[14:10] <unknownamerican> running debian/ubuntu 64
[14:10] <linuxistiphone> and get it work
[14:10] <milia> hmmm Yoshi_Matrix ,like in 1000-1300$ ?
[14:11] <unknownamerican> and winows xp/media2005
[14:11] <bazhang> linuxistiphone: you can check winehq appdb
[14:11] <Yoshi_Matrix> even cheaper milia
[14:11] <Slart> !appdb  | linuxistiphone
[14:11] <ubotu> linuxistiphone: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:11] <Jaymac> linuxistiphone: i think older versions have worked...
[14:11] <Dr_willis> aguy,  given the varity of crud and bugs  ive seen done to laptops and their bios's ... It may just be a kernel patch away. :)
[14:11] <milia> cool...hope i can find such offers in greece as well Yoshi_Matrix :P
[14:11] <kelvin911> how to get the wine menu back?
[14:11] <unknownamerican> dont realy see much dif unless image edit or
[14:11] <milia> maby Athens
[14:12] <milia> *maybe
[14:12] <bazhang> where did you put it kelvin911
[14:12] <bluemeus> k, found @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[14:12] <linuxistiphone> Jaymac: so it is impossible to get the newest itunes with wine?
[14:12] <Slart> kelvin911: it went away?
[14:12] <bluemeus> thx
[14:12] <kelvin911> i deleted it
[14:12] <Jaymac> linuxistiphone: don't know, search the fora or try the wine appdb
[14:12] <Slart> kelvin911: unless it's in the trashbin.. I don't think you can
[14:12] <bazhang> linuxistiphone: you need to read the link
[14:12] <kelvin911> i uninstall wine and remove .wine dir
[14:12] <Gaz`> worse than winblows this :)
[14:12] <unknownamerican> it seems like a conveniant lie to sell 64 chips
[14:12] <aguy> Dr_willis, i dont have the time to read in kernelcompiling, and am damn happy that it works on SOME machines. i came over here to see what irc can do for me
[14:12] <Yoshi_Matrix> I hope so too milia
[14:12] <kelvin911> then reinstall wine and i thought that will generate the menu again but it doesnt
[14:13] <KniGhT_ShaDoW> hello
[14:13] <linuxistiphone> ok
[14:13] <linuxistiphone> kthnxbai
[14:13] <bazhang> Gaz`: you might want to get unetbootin exe and do it that way
[14:13] <TerCa_BG> hi
[14:13] <TerCa_BG> ;)
[14:13] <milia> Yoshi_Matrix, and you have 3D accell, all fine with no further tweaking ?:}
[14:13] <Slart> kelvin911: that menu is generated when you install programs into your wine enviroment
[14:13] <TerCa_BG> ubuntu 7.10 the best
[14:13] <aguy> Dr_willis, mainly to find a channel for filesharing talk
[14:13] <TerCa_BG> ubuntu 7.10 the best
[14:13] <unknownamerican> had a problem geting su
[14:13] <KniGhT_ShaDoW> Im new user of xchat... it is not a very familar irc client :/
[14:13] <Slart> kelvin911: by the install programs you use when you install the windows software
[14:13] <Jaymac> kelvin911: try System > Preferences > Main Menu and see if you can enable it from there
[14:13] <milia> KniGhT_ShaDoW, its not much different than mirc
[14:14] <Gaz`> bezhang thx i`ll try
[14:14] <kelvin911> i delete it there
[14:14] <unknownamerican> had alot of authentcatin errors fixed it
[14:14] <kelvin911> in main menu
[14:14] <milia> wait to see irssi/bitchx :p
[14:14] <KniGhT_ShaDoW> milia: what client are you using ?
[14:14] <kelvin911> because i thought i need a fresh reinstall
[14:14] <bazhang> !wubi | Gaz` read the ubuntuforums link first
[14:14] <ubotu> Gaz` read the ubuntuforums link first: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[14:14] <joep> Has somebody succes by using sendmail in ubuntu sending mail from other stations on the net??
[14:14] <milia> KniGhT_ShaDoW, atm xchat, but I prefer irssi for my terminals
[14:14] <Paijo> jhllyhjlyi
[14:14] <unknownamerican> whos using linux press 1 now please
[14:14] <Koheleth> When 8.04 is released can I just upgrade my rc version online?
[14:15] <bazhang> Koheleth: yes
[14:15] <Koheleth> cool, thanks
[14:15] <Slart> unknownamerican: don't do this here.. take it to off-topic
[14:15] <unknownamerican> type 1 if you use linux
[14:15] <Slart> unknownamerican: there's even a poll bot for you to play with
[14:15] <milia> lol
[14:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic unknownamerican
[14:15] <KniGhT_ShaDoW> milia: ok and how about BitchX i suppose it's the most popular one ?
[14:15] <aguy> anyone know a filesharing chanel or sth like that
[14:15] <Koheleth> another thing, I have just installed it into windows until the new release, the desktop effects dont work is that normal!
[14:16] <bazhang> aguy not here please maybe efnet
[14:16] <Slart> !p2p | aguy
[14:16] <ubotu> aguy: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[14:16] <fx|RabBitt> unknownamerican: whats the point of that question in a linux channel?
[14:16] <unknownamerican> i was in a windows room that had a lot of linux wannabees
[14:16] <aguy> thx
[14:16] <Pici> !offtopic | unknownamerican
[14:16] <ubotu> unknownamerican: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:16] <Gaz`> when does hardy come out
[14:16] <milia> KniGhT_ShaDoW, i'm not much familiar with it. It has fancy colours and can run as a backround process if you want though :P. Ah yes, its text-only.
[14:16] <fx|RabBitt> well here your in a linux hannel with a lot of linu wannabees XD
[14:16] <Slart> Gaz`: 4 days I think
[14:16] <Koheleth> 2 days
[14:16] <bazhang> 24th Gaz`
[14:16] <unknownamerican> hers my duel boot solution
[14:16] <Slart> Gaz`: nevermind me.. my calender is off, it seems =)
[14:17] <unknownamerican> this is how i got it to work
[14:17] <milia> KniGhT_ShaDoW, but talking for bitchx in here is not that much allowed, its mostly non-ubuntu chat
[14:17] <aguy> well, just starting, thats the point i think
[14:17] <Gaz`> hehehe
[14:17] <Koheleth> guys I am using the windows install and desktop effects does not work, is that normal?
[14:17] <Gaz`> i need to wait for that rather than mess maybe
[14:17] <aguy> install the x-client and you will see where it connects to
[14:17] <unknownamerican> first of all let me begin by saying im using jbod raid
[14:17] <bazhang> Koheleth: wubi?
[14:17] <Koheleth> yeah
[14:17] <aguy> x-chat
[14:17] <neo1ite> Can anyone help with an smb issue
[14:17] <Jaymac> Koheleth: maybe a stupid question, but have you checked the box to enable them?
[14:18] <Koheleth> sure
[14:18] <KniGhT_ShaDoW> milia: ok
[14:18] <boris> hello
[14:18] <bazhang> Koheleth: you may want to move that to an lvm
[14:18] <boris> im trying to install Penumbra Overture and Penumbra Black Plague demos, both give me segmentation faults, what should i do ?
[14:18] <Koheleth> ati hd 2400 pro card, is that ok with ubuntu?
[14:18] <unknownamerican> what i did was use widows to create a partition of abou 3/4 my first drive
[14:18] <Jaymac> Koheleth: effects should work with wubi
[14:18] <kelvin911> i install a game thru wine
[14:18] <bazhang> unknownamerican: get a blog
[14:18] <unknownamerican> and split that in half
[14:18] <Slart> boris: not play those? =) I don't really know of a solution to seg faults
[14:19] <kelvin911> but i still have no menu
[14:19] <Koheleth> ok, I will mess around a bit
[14:19] <boris> Slart: they're too scary anyway :P
[14:19] <Jaymac> Koheleth: have you enabled restricted driver?
[14:19] <Slart> kelvin911: try running wineboot... sometimes that fixes it
[14:19] <unknownamerican> than i formated the rest to ntfs
[14:19] <Koheleth> not sure, dont think so
[14:19] <kelvin911> winboot?
[14:19] <Slart> boris: hehe.. are they linux native games?
[14:19] <kelvin911> wineboot in terminal?
[14:19] <unknownamerican> and installed windows
[14:19] <Slart> kelvin911: wineboot.. in a terminal
[14:19] <boris> Slart: yep, theyve got linux versions
[14:20] <kelvin911> do i need to kill wineserver?
[14:20] <kelvin911> wineserver -k ?
[14:20] <Ktron> I think the next release of #ubuntu, the default channel should be like #ubuntu-newusers, so they can spam in there and when they finally read the topic they learn to come over here
[14:20] <Koheleth> thanks, bacl later
[14:20] <Slart> kelvin911: no.. but I think it will kill any running wine programs
[14:20] <unknownamerican> so when i installed linux it asked do you want to install in the largest unalocated space
[14:20] <shinoj> like in mandriva is there any frontend to bluetooth in ubuntu?
[14:20] <unknownamerican> yes
[14:20] <bazhang> Ktron: this is the newusers chan
[14:20] <unknownamerican> boom
[14:20] <Jaymac> unknownamerican: is this going anywhere?
[14:20] <kelvin911> Ktron: dont be ass hole
[14:20] <boris> http://pastebin.com/d108c309c
[14:20] <kelvin911> Ktron: go back to #linux
[14:20] <boris> some1 help
[14:20] <kelvin911> u belong there
[14:20] <unknownamerican> now its duel boot
[14:20] <bazhang> language kelvin911
[14:21] <shinoj> like in mandriva is there any frontend to bluetooth in ubuntu?
[14:21] <Pici> !coc | kelvin911
[14:21] <ubotu> kelvin911: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[14:21] <egoleo> hello
[14:21] <Slart> shinoj: there are some small utilities.. but no all-in-one solution
[14:21] <unknownamerican> thats hard to do becaus like i said im in jbod
[14:21] <bazhang> shinoj: like in mandriva? not sure what they do you can /msg ubotu bluetooth for a link
[14:21] <egoleo> plse how do i upgrade clamav on my ubuntu server 6.06 to newer version
[14:21] <Ktron> bazhang, this is the support channel, not really a new users channel
[14:22] <kelvin911> wineboot did not generate the wine menu
[14:22] <bazhang> Ktron: you must be new then
[14:22] <Slart> kelvin911: then I'm out of suggestions.. sorry
[14:22] <john_2> why
[14:22] <unknownamerican> so it took me about 3 installs to figure that out because they would alwase overlap
[14:22] <john_2> hi
[14:22] <Ktron> bazhang, been using Ubuntu since Breezy release... I don't think I'm that new anymore, certainly not to IRC
[14:22] <john_2> best dvd writer for ubuntu?
[14:22] <kelvin911> why installing wine in add/remove doesnt generate the menu?
[14:22] <erUSUL> egoleo: if there is no new version aviable in repos or backports you will have to upgrade to a newer version of the distribution or compile it yourself
[14:23] <Gaz`> the website says you can get it now hardy heron? the release candidate?
[14:23] <shinoj> no what I mean is its too easy to connect my phone in mandriva
[14:23] <Ktron> bazhang, maybe I'll go propose that over in +1
[14:23] <kelvin911> it only generate the menu the first time?
[14:23] <bazhang> Gaz`: yes
[14:23] <egoleo> great erSUL
[14:23] <unknownamerican> so if you have the same situation make sure that windos and linux are an the same drive
[14:23] <Koheleth> Back
[14:23] <john_2> best dvd writer for ubuntu, compatible it all dvd's?
[14:23] <Gaz`> bazhang, so whats the one were waiting for? proven releaseable ?
[14:23] <Pici> Ktron: We've discussed splitting the channels up many times, and weighed the pros and cons many times. We've always decided that keeping it as one channel is for the best.
[14:23] <john_2> hi
[14:23] <Pici> Gaz`: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:23] <bazhang> hardy Gaz`
[14:23] <unknownamerican> othewise error21
[14:24] <Koheleth> what do I need to check, my desktop effects are not working
[14:24] <bazhang> Koheleth: check the drivers manager
[14:24] <Koheleth> ok, brb
[14:25] <bazhang> now call hardware manager iirc Koheleth
[14:25] <Koheleth> yeah, my cards 3d is not enabled :)
[14:25] <unknownamerican> thats thekey
[14:25] <Koheleth> shall I enable it lol
[14:25] <bazhang> Koheleth: aye
[14:25] <Koheleth> ok, brb
[14:25] <unknownamerican> its all about the partitioning
[14:26] <Koheleth> its downloading something
[14:26] <Koheleth> xorg driver
[14:26] <thor> how can i make a script that starts will run at startup that will execute a gnome-terminal and display text from a file within the terminal?
[14:26] <Koheleth> flgx or something
[14:26] <Pici> Ktron: fglrx
[14:26] <Koheleth> fglrx I mean
[14:26] <kelvin911> how to config wine
[14:26] <Koheleth> yeah, that one :)
[14:27] <unknownamerican> tips: install windows firs
[14:27] <bazhang> Koheleth: at some point you will want to go to #compiz-fusion and the amazing people they have there can set you up
[14:27] <Pici> kelvin911: I believe the command is  winecfg
[14:27] <unknownamerican> than  third party
[14:27] <unknownamerican> like pq8
[14:27] <kelvin911> thx
[14:27] <Koheleth> its a brand new pc and I used to use SuSE, worked great on my old pc and SuSE
[14:27] <Jaymac> unknownamerican: is there any point to your story, or are you just spamming for the sake of it?
[14:28] <unknownamerican> makes it easyer
[14:28] <bazhang> unknownamerican: make a channel #unknownamerican or get a blog
[14:28] <Koheleth> computer needs restart, brb
[14:28] <unknownamerican> i will after after
[14:28] <Unix_Shell> lol
[14:29] <Pici> unknownamerican: Or if you're talking to someone in particular, try to prefix your messages with their name.
[14:29] <aguy> i have a hardware problem.
[14:29] <unknownamerican> im a newb
[14:29] <aguy> during boot the os hangs up.
[14:29] <aguy> tja, ubuntu
[14:30] <unknownamerican> i was speking in genral:pici
[14:30] <Bug2000> Whats TrueCrypt package name?
[14:30] <unknownamerican> oops
[14:30] <aguy> what could cause the hangup. checked memory and hd
[14:30] <Pici> unknownamerican: Well #ubuntu is more for support questions and answers, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:30] <bazhang> Bug2000: truecrpyt
[14:30] <bazhang> aguy what vid card
[14:30] <Bug2000> E: Couldn't find package truecrpyt
[14:31] <Bug2000> E: Couldn't find package truecrypt
[14:31] <Bug2000> So ya.
[14:31] <bazhang> www.truecrypt.org bug2
[14:31] <Slart> !truecrypt
[14:31] <ubotu> Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[14:32]  * Gaz` rips his hair out
[14:32] <Gaz`> time for a smoke
[14:32] <Gaz`> back to trusty winblows
[14:32] <aguy> bazhang, vid?
[14:32] <unknownamerican> http://www.myspace.com/super_d_lux
[14:32] <Pici> unknownamerican: No spam here, please.
[14:32] <bazhang> aguy what vid-eo card
[14:32] <Koheleth> Desktop effects working fine, thanks all
[14:32] <john_2> thx :)
[14:32] <nsandiman> hi everyone, I need help in setting up my usb infrared on my ubuntu box
[14:32] <Gaz`> bazhang everything works fine in recovery mode!
[14:32] <cetelbras> ??
[14:32] <bazhang> !yay | Koheleth
[14:32] <ubotu> Koheleth: Glad you made it! :-)
[14:32] <aguy> bazhang nvidia geforce 6600?!?
[14:33] <Koheleth> one more thing
[14:33] <aguy> bazhang, my xp dies too, mostly at boot
[14:33] <unknownamerican> whats spam
[14:33] <Gaz`> meat
[14:33] <Koheleth> my login screen uses a english key pad but my main keyboard is french, in the OS its fine, just when I login
[14:34] <bazhang> unknownamerican: please stop being offtopic here
[14:34] <Pici> unknownamerican: Unsolicited links, this is a support channel, not somewhere for posting your myspace page.
[14:34] <unknownamerican> isnt that somekind of procesed meat product
[14:34] <Bug2000> bazhang: So... Any ideas why the package is missing?
[14:34] <bazhang> Bug2000: the package is not in the repos afaik
[14:34] <bazhang> !info truecrypt hardy
[14:34] <unknownamerican> im sorry
[14:34] <Bug2000> bazhang: Why is that? Any repo that has it?
[14:34] <ubotu> Package truecrypt does not exist in hardy
[14:34] <biagidp> So does anyone know what's the occasion for the special google logo today?
[14:34] <nsandiman> any help setting up my usb infrared on my ubuntu box...am new to linux/ubuntu
[14:34] <jrib> biagidp: click on it
[14:35] <Koheleth> I wondered that
[14:35] <bazhang> Bug2000: there were several links up thread
[14:35] <John_> hey hey :]
[14:35] <Pici> Bug2000: Please read the link from ubotu about setting up truecrypt
[14:35] <Koheleth> st gearges day soon but it cant be that
[14:35] <Bug2000> Pici: It tells 'ya to apt-get it.
[14:35] <Koheleth> georges I mean
[14:35] <biagidp> jrib, I didn't know that worked...thanks!
[14:35] <John_> Did someone here help me yesterday with a photoshop problem..
[14:35] <John_> making embossed text?
[14:35] <angela__75> hello there
[14:35] <Koheleth> hi
[14:35] <unknownamerican> didnt know yer wer so tempermental and
[14:35] <bazhang> John_: in wine? or a native linux photoshop
[14:35] <Pici> Bug2000: Thats certainly odd.
[14:36] <John_> neither, hehe, just windows =P
[14:36] <John_> Only reason i asked here yesterday was because this is the biggest channel :P
[14:36] <Koheleth> anyone know how to fix my login problem?
[14:36] <bazhang> windows has a channel John_
[14:36] <John_> (although i do also run ubuntu)
[14:36] <angela__75> i'm having troubles with xfce4 after upgrading to 8.04, xfce4-session freezes after login in gdm
[14:36] <unknownamerican> catoagory oriantated
[14:37] <John_> angela__75, when you say freezes do you mean the mouse doesn't move, or it's actually frozen?
[14:37] <jrib> Koheleth: you can probably set the keyboard layout in your xorg.conf
[14:37] <bazhang> unknownamerican: indeed this channel has rules; please live by them or go elsewhere thanks
[14:37] <John_> sometimes you have to wiggle the mouse for the mouse to move after you start XFCE4
[14:37] <Koheleth> but its fine in ubuntu, just the login screen!
[14:37] <thezanke> bazhang, umm.... it finished and i clicked restart now or w/e
[14:37] <jrib> Koheleth: yes, set it in xorg.conf
[14:37] <Gaz`> angela__75: do you menus vanish and all you can see is mouse and wallpaper?
[14:37] <bazhang> thezanke: the install?
[14:37] <thezanke> bazhang, startetd beeping furiously... and is now like one solid beep
[14:37] <angela__75> John-: I explained bad... sorry! the mouse still moves but nothing happens
[14:37] <unknownamerican> excuse me sir that is an insult i challenge you to a duell
[14:37] <Koheleth> biagidp: its earth day?
[14:38] <angela__75> GAz`: yes!
[14:38] <biagidp> koheleth: Yeah, that's what it said when I clicked on it.
[14:38] <Gaz`> angela__75: that is exactly whats happening to me too!
[14:38] <John_> xfce4-panel
[14:38] <Koheleth> ok, will look in xconf, thanks
[14:38] <John_> run that
[14:38] <Bug2000> Pici: Any other tool? I don't trust root on this system.
[14:38] <angela__75> John_: should i try to reconfigure it?
[14:38] <Gaz`> angela__75: cant help im afraid, im stuck, i cant even reinstall now, it works in recovery mode for me tho, did you try that,
[14:39] <dirkounet> hi, i am working with ubuntu gutsy which has an older version of the libcairo2 library. Can i somehow install the latest one from Hrady? http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/libcairo2
[14:39] <Koheleth> is there an easy way to edit xconf?
[14:39] <John_> if xfce4-panel isn't running, yes
[14:39] <John_> but you need to make sure first
[14:39] <John_> so open terminal and run it to see if your panels come back :]
[14:39] <bazhang> dirkounet: that will bring more problems than it fixes
[14:40] <dirkounet> like what?
[14:40] <thezanke> bazhang, enable the restricted driver yes?
[14:40] <John_> angela__75, did it work?
[14:40] <dirkounet> so there is no way to upgrade libcairo2? have no time to upgrade to hardy ...
[14:40] <John_> (and/or Gaz` )
[14:40] <bazhang> thezanke: you did? now do a restart
[14:40] <angela__75> John_: I'm not able to do nothing... if i right click mouse nothing happens, and If i do alt+f2 for launching a program nothing happens too
[14:41] <John_> ah
[14:41] <John_> ...
[14:41] <Koheleth> whats the sudo command to edit xconf?
[14:41] <John_> bugger :/
[14:41] <Pici> Bug2000: I'm sure that there are many encryption tutorials out there for Ubuntu, I'm looking into fixing that wiki page right now.
[14:41] <angela__75> John_: now I run pidgin from fluxbox
[14:41] <bazhang> dirkounet: you may do what you wish but then it is unsupported and will likely cause breakage
[14:41] <kelvin911> here
[14:41] <John_> Is this a new install of xfce4?
[14:41] <kelvin911> http://www.pastebin.ca/993201
[14:41] <John_> what could have busted it
[14:41] <Gaz`> John_: run what?
[14:41] <kelvin911> wrong tab sorry
[14:41] <unknownamerican> sorr if i ofended you i didnt know you wer such a bitch
[14:41] <angela__75> John-: I removed it completely and then I did a fresh install
[14:42] <bazhang> !language | unknownamerican
[14:42] <ubotu> unknownamerican: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:42] <angela__75> John_: I even removed ubuntu-desktop
[14:42] <bazhang> oops sorry
[14:42] <Koheleth> hey does 8.04 have root?
[14:42] <dirkounet> bazhang: yeah, probably but i wonder how i can upgrade to libcairo2, i mean can i somehow change my sources.list only to upgrade libcairo? or is there a risk to destroy my whole system as it runs now?
[14:42] <jrib> Koheleth: what does that mean?...
[14:43] <bazhang> dirkounet: I sadly cannot guide you here
[14:43] <Koheleth> how come I can do all these admin tasks if I am just a user?
[14:43] <jrib> !sudo | Koheleth
[14:43] <ubotu> Koheleth: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:43] <bazhang> sudo Koheleth
[14:43] <Pici> !hardy | Koheleth
[14:43] <ubotu> Koheleth: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[14:43] <Koheleth> I am logged in as David
[14:43] <Koheleth> just a user
[14:43] <John_> i see..
[14:44] <Koheleth> yet I can mess with hardware and all
[14:44] <Pici> Koheleth: #ubuntu is not the place for Hardy questions, please join #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <jrib> Koheleth: the user is in the "admin" group.  So he has sudo privileges
[14:44] <Koheleth> ok
[14:44] <angela__75> Gaz`: maybe we should wait a couple of days ;-)
[14:44] <John_> angela__75, i'll be completely honest and say i don't really know ubuntu well enough to help you here. If you had Gentoo or something it would be easy enough to re-emerge xfce4, but i'm not really sure what to do here :/
[14:44] <John_> Sorry :(
[14:44] <Koheleth> admin privs and on irc?
[14:45] <albuntu> hello to all. can anyone tell me please a good and easy gui application to watermark videos with my own image ?
[14:45] <bazhang> only for specific tasks and short term Koheleth
[14:45] <Gaz`> agreed angela__75, but what did he say to run? i want to try it
[14:45] <Koheleth> short term?
[14:45] <angela__75> John-: ok, thank you very much, I have an old pc and it's better I donn't use gentoo, compling everything would take years
[14:45] <bazhang> few minutes and only for that task Koheleth
[14:45] <angela__75> Gaz`: xfce4-panel
[14:45] <Koheleth> ok
[14:46] <Gaz`> thats somethign else isnt it
[14:46] <Gaz`> like kicker and all that
[14:46] <Gaz`> not gnome
[14:46] <yoops> albuntu: i've heard decent things about kdenlive its supposed to be a lot like imovie but i haven't personally tried it
[14:46] <albuntu> yoops: i'll give it a look
[14:46] <albuntu> yoops: thank you
[14:46] <Slart> albuntu: there are very few good gui apps for editing video in linux.. there might be more for the command line.. take a look at imagemagick.. perhaps they have some kind of movie addon.. or the gimp movie version.. don't remember what that is called
[14:46] <yoops> not a problem
[14:47] <boris> http://pastebin.com/d108c309c    someone help
[14:47] <bulwynkl> !bluetooth
[14:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[14:47] <chris062689> Hello.
[14:47] <APsVEtt> hi
[14:47] <yoops> anyone happen to know if the eve-online linux client supports ati cards or not...or am i better off trying to run it in wine
[14:48] <k[5\5]> xi
[14:49] <pTeraBiT> hey
[14:50] <cannonball> Good morning.  I'm an RPM dude, so this may be a dumb question.  Are there any recommended guides/howtos for rebuilding a deb?  I want to grab a source deb from hardy (mutt-patches), and rebuild on my gutsy to see if it has the patch I want.  If not, then I will grab the regular source deb, apply the patch, and then rebuild it.
[14:50] <cannonball> I'm just not sure exactly where to start with it.
[14:52] <APsVEtt> Guys, I've been following this guide http://linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html on how to install and configure OpenSSH server, how I'm stuck on "5. Copy /home/toylet/.ssh/id_rsa from Linux to Windows.". How do I copy files from Ubuntu server to Windows, the easiest way?
[14:52] <kelvin911> can anyone solve this ??? pls see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-594410.html
[14:53] <cannonball> APsVEtt: Download winscp to the windows machine, then you can connect using ssh with what looks like a regular ftp client.
[14:53] <Chaotic_Descent> I upgraded Ubuntu, and now my other partition is missing, and gparted won't finish "scanning all devices".
[14:53] <Koheleth> not much to choose from in the Emerald window manager, like zero :)
[14:54] <Lamego> !hardy | Chaotic_Descent
[14:54] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[14:54] <Derspankster> Is it possible to administer and boot Ubuntu Server via SSH ?(headless system)
[14:55] <Chaotic_Descent> ... are you telling me that this version of Ubuntu kills partitions and won't run gparted, or is that some autoresponse?
[14:55] <Koheleth> you sysrescue for gparted
[14:55] <Chaotic_Descent> what?
[14:55] <Koheleth> www.sysrescue.org I think
[14:56] <Pici> Chaotic_Descent: Its a request to move Hardy discussion to #ubuntu+1
[14:56] <Lamego> Chaotic_Descent, I am telling you that if you are using hardy, you should ask at #ubuntu+1
[14:56] <Koheleth> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page sorry
[14:56] <Lamego> Derspankster, yes
[14:56] <gerro> for some reason my system says I have 2 sound cards yet the one doesn't exist and I have no sound, how do I fix?
[14:56] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm not. Im using  Ubuntu 7.10
[14:56] <Chaotic_Descent>                 - the Gutsy Gibbon
[14:57] <Derspankster> Lamego: Thank you!
[14:57] <Koheleth> try deleting one
[14:58] <Derspankster> I've built a server and may wait until 8.04 Server final to install OS
[14:58] <Chaotic_Descent> Also, it forgot to give me permission to the new partition. was that because I upgraded, or because I have to manually tell it to give me permission every time I turn on the computer?
[14:59] <THE-HARDY-HERON> hello fellow internet addicts
[14:59] <THE-HARDY-HERON> how are you doing.
[14:59] <kelvin911> anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-594410.html ??
[14:59] <THE-HARDY-HERON> 2 more days till our e-heroin addiction
[14:59] <THE-HARDY-HERON> gets satisfied with injections of ubuntu
[15:00] <Lamego> !hardy | THE-HARDY-HERON
[15:00] <ubotu> THE-HARDY-HERON: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[15:00] <Derspankster> is this a monologue?
[15:00] <chris062689> You guys might as well instal the RC
[15:00] <Lamego> if you don't need support, just leave please
[15:00] <chris062689> If you o to download the iso the day it's released, it will take you FOREVER
[15:00] <chris062689> It's always been that way with a release.
[15:00] <Lamego> !hardy | chris062689
[15:00] <ubotu> chris062689: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[15:00] <chris062689> I know what Hardy is.
[15:01] <Lamego> so please stop being OT :)
[15:01] <APsVEtt> Thanks cannonball, it worked like a charm
[15:02] <whyameye> I have some gutsy machines not connected to the internet and I need to install several packages on them. How do I do this?
[15:03] <thor> are they .deb's
[15:03] <thezanke> bazhang, apt and the gui updaters both are taking forever are there faster sources i can add?
[15:03] <Lamego> whyameye, you burn the .debs on a CD ?
[15:03] <HSNews> how to ps aux | grep 'someapp' | and kill in onetime, by One sh-line
[15:03] <whyameye> thor: I'm used to getting stuff on synaptic
[15:03] <Kira-Yamato> hi all
[15:04] <thezanke> bazhang, normally i dl at like 1mb/s these i am downloading from at 50-80kb
[15:04] <whyameye> Lamego: how do I get/identify the debs. I'm used to apt-get install etc.
[15:04] <VoidedCheck> Kira-Yamato, Death Note fan?
[15:04] <Lamego> whyameye, well, you must know the package names that you need
[15:04] <thor> whyameye: thats fine, but you CAN try getting them off the cd
[15:05] <whyameye> Lamego: ok so on a machine connected to the internet I find the package names. Now what?
[15:05] <jerryp> looking for help with getting a Lexmark X1270 printer going.... have installed the z600 driver as advised in ubuntu forums but when binary is run libstdc++.so.5 is requested.  I cannot install this library with apt-get
[15:05] <thor> whyameye: you can from a terminal 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[15:05] <whyameye> thor: but that won't work if the machine isn't on the internet
[15:05] <Lamego> whyameye, the downloaded files are kept at /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:05] <thor> dpkg
[15:06] <bazhang> thezanke: well the servers are likely under a bit of strain at the moment--big release in two days and all
[15:06] <thor> dpkg -i packagename
[15:06] <jimqode> jerryp, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:06] <Jackubus> when i partition manually, what is the mountpoint for swap?
[15:06] <whyameye> Lamego: ok. So if  I get what I need on a machine connected to the internet, then copy /var/cache/apt/archives to a CD, what do I then type on the machine NOT on the internet? at-get install <package name> and it will find it in the archives if I copy it there?
[15:06] <thor> SWAP
[15:06] <jimqode> Jackubus, nothing
[15:06] <thezanke> bazhang, big release?
[15:07] <Lamego> jerryp, there is libstdc++5
[15:07] <thor> whyameye: use dkpg
[15:07] <over_b> hi all.. i have a problem in obtaining an ip address from my router with a wireless connection.. with ethernet cable all works fine.. can anyone help me please? thanks...
[15:07] <Jackubus> jimqode: thanks
[15:07] <bazhang> thezanke: hardy heron ubuntu 8.04
[15:07] <Lamego> whyameye, not sure, however you can install them with sudo dpkg -i files*.deb
[15:07] <thor> i told him that already
[15:07] <thezanke> bazhang, do i have to completely redownload and install?
[15:07] <thor> no
[15:08] <thor> sudo apt-dist upgrade
[15:08] <bazhang> thezanke: no not needed
[15:08] <shinoj> !kde
[15:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[15:08] <shinoj> !kde
[15:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[15:09] <whyameye> Lamego: will dpkg also solve dependencies or does it just complain and die if dependencies aren't met?
[15:09] <shinoj> !gprs
[15:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gprs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:09] <Lamego> whyameye, it complains, and will tell you what packages are missing
[15:09] <thor> it will just attempt to install the package
[15:09] <shinoj> !bluetooth
[15:09] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[15:09] <whyameye> Lamego, thor: thanks! I think I know what to do now.
[15:09] <thor> g/l
[15:10] <thor> you may also have to pull a dpkg --configure
[15:10] <mabus> how can I blacklist a driver built into the kernel
[15:10] <cwraig> how can i figure out what keycode is pressed when i press a key
[15:10] <Kira-Yamato> VoidedCheck : No Gundam Seed fan ^^
[15:11] <thor> keymapping i think
[15:11] <VoidedCheck> ah of course  ^^;
[15:12] <frostburn> cwraig, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist i believe
[15:13] <jerryp> Lamego:  Library installed, thanks BUT... when I run:  ./z600 under /usr/lib/cups/backend   I get no output... any ideas why?
[15:13] <cwraig> frostburn, should i nano that or execute it?
[15:13] <frostburn> cwraig, nano
[15:13] <Lamego> no idea, I dont know much about CUPS
[15:13] <frostburn> $man modprobe.d
[15:14] <jerryp> Trying to get a Lexmark X series running.  I have installed z600 driver but cannot find printer.   when I run:  ./z600 under /usr/lib/cups/backend   I get no output... any ideas why?
[15:14] <Lamego> cwebber, sudo showkey
[15:15] <Chaotic_Descent> is it normal for upgrading Ubuntu to just lose entire partitions?
[15:16] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: nope
[15:16] <nathan_> does anyone know where kde4 bin files are hidden?
[15:16] <andatche> anyone know how to escape backticks in bash? backslashes don't seem to work :(
[15:16] <nathan_> there not in /usr/bin/
[15:16] <Toznoshio> Q: What is a good way to build simple standalone graphical applications for someone with basic PHP skills?
[15:16] <hwilde> Toznoshio, learn java
[15:16] <jrib> andatche: works here.  What are you doing exactly?
[15:16] <hwilde> andatche, why would you need to escape backticks
[15:17] <andatche> for a find and replace
[15:17] <kelvin911> guys i did sudo apt-get remove wine
[15:17] <kelvin911> now i cant install wine in add/remove why?
[15:17] <andatche> this is on an old version of bash on a solaris box so that may be the problem :/
[15:17] <Lamego> Toznoshio, you could try php-gtk, but I have no idea how mature is it
[15:17] <jrib> andatche: try #bash
[15:17] <Lamego> kelvin911, what error do you get when isntalling it ?
[15:18] <thor> apt-purge
[15:18] <andatche> jrib: cheers
[15:18] <thor> apt-purge remove
[15:18] <kelvin911> cant fetch
[15:18] <asonge> firefox-3.0 won't launch except under sudo, and i don't know what permission issues it's running again...i can't get any debug info
[15:19] <jrib> asonge: are you using hardy?
[15:19] <hwilde> thor, it's apt-get remove --purge
[15:19] <asonge> jrib: yeah
[15:19] <thor> kelvin911: you gotta use apt-remove packagename
[15:19] <jrib> asonge: #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[15:19] <kelvin911> so?
[15:19] <kelvin911> waht now?
[15:20] <kelvin911> i follow the instruction here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[15:20] <jrib> !apt | kelvin911, thor
[15:20] <ubotu> kelvin911, thor: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[15:20] <kelvin911> i also did this sudo apt-get clean
[15:20] <jerryp> Trying to get a Lexmark X series running.  I have installed z600 driver but cannot find printer.   when I run:  ./z600 under /usr/lib/cups/backend   I get no output... any ideas why?
[15:20] <Lamego> kelvin911, change to a different mirror
[15:21] <kaminix> Anyone here know how I can link a fonts name to another name? Giving it two names that is.
[15:21] <svl> Hi all - I have an old laptop with Ubuntu, and am about to install it onto a new laptop. Was just wondering however if there was an easy way to carry over the package selection from my old laptop (and have those packages automatically downloaded/installed), so I don't need to go and manually tweak this again on the new one.
[15:21] <Chaotic_Descent> god damnit. why does Ubuntu have to go and screw up now?! I have two days to pack for my trip!
[15:21] <Slart> !clone
[15:21] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:21] <Chaotic_Descent> I don't have time for this crap!
[15:21] <kaksnsdj> hej! simply question i have Intel Centrino Duo. till now i used 32 bit ubuntu version, but soon is coming out new version and i was thinking maybe i should try 64 bit version? what u would recommend? thank u!
[15:22] <woj> czesc
[15:22] <thor> woa woa Chaotic_Descent whats up?
[15:22] <Slart> kaksnsdj: how mych memory do you have?
[15:22] <Slart> !cz
[15:22] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[15:22] <svl> thanks, Slart
[15:22] <kaksnsdj> S1art: 2 GB
[15:22] <Slart> svl: you're welcome
[15:22] <yrlnry> I discovered that ~/.thumbnails was using up 1.1GB of space.  Can I configure the thumbnailer to automatically discard old thumbnails to keep the .thumbnails directory below a certain size?
[15:22] <Chaotic_Descent> thor: upgrading Ubuntu killed gparted and the partition it made.
[15:23] <thor> are you sure its actually destroyed or just not mounted?
[15:23] <Chaotic_Descent> I don't know. gparted won't stop "scanning all devices"
[15:23] <thor> try qtparted
[15:23] <Slart> kaksnsdj: 64 bit doesn't give you any huuge perfomance increase... but some things will be more troublesome.. such as java, perhaps flash, wine and such which aren't really available for 64 bit (there are workarounds, some very simple)..
[15:23] <eedge> trying todo echo exec('whoami'); in php in ubuntu 7.10, and nothings getting echo'ed... safe modes off, any idea what could be causing it?
[15:24] <pcormack> hello all
[15:24] <thor> or can you see it if you run fdisk -l
[15:24] <Slart> kaksnsdj: I'd stay with 32bit unless you'll be doing some serious number crunching or using more than 3GB of memory
[15:24] <kelvin911> i still cant install wine
[15:24] <kelvin911> what mirror u mean?
[15:24] <oni_voide> sudo atp-get install wine
[15:24] <kelvin911> W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/wine_0.9.46-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:24] <kelvin911> why is this?
[15:25] <kelvin911> server down?
[15:25] <kaksnsdj> S1art: i use my pc for programming so i stay then with 32 bits :) thank u for help
[15:25] <Slart> kaksnsdj: you're welcome
[15:25] <thor> do you have all the majore repo's enabled?
[15:25] <Lamego> kelvin911, because there is some issue with that server, just change ca. to us. or whatever, on your sources.list
[15:25] <pTeraBiT> nope if it was it wouldn't give of a link to the package
[15:25] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm new to linux, so I gotta figure out how to do that right....
[15:25] <kelvin911> Lamego: when does it happen?
[15:25] <yggwork> what version of ubuntu is current ? fiesty ?
[15:25] <DJones> !gutsy | yggwork
[15:25] <ubotu> yggwork: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:25] <kelvin911> Lamego: because i can install wine from there like 3 hrs ago
[15:25] <yggwork> thanks
[15:25] <thor> just open a terminal and type it in
[15:26] <Chaotic_Descent> crap. where do I find which /dev/ my HD is?
[15:26] <Lamego> kelvin911, it happens when the server or the network to it fails
[15:26] <DJones> yggwork: However Hardy is released on Thursday this week
[15:26] <Lamego> just use another mirror
[15:26] <thor> /dev/hd0 likely
[15:26] <yggwork> yea i know
[15:26] <oni_voide> lamego: look in nautilus
[15:26] <Lamego> Chaotic_Descent, on the terminal: sudo fidsk -l
[15:26] <zzz> hi all
[15:26] <Chaotic_Descent> oh. gparted finally loaded!
[15:26] <Chaotic_Descent> that only took like 5 minutes, after I forgot about it.
[15:26] <mmarker> or try dmesg | less and look at what the kernel named it.
[15:27] <oni_voide> lol, does anyone here have the final release of ubuntu?
[15:27] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks.
[15:27] <Exteris> Chaotic_Descent, do you *not* have a floppy? if so, start with the --no-floppy option
[15:27] <Lamego> !hardy | oni_voide
[15:27] <ubotu> oni_voide: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[15:27] <solexious> [Q] Is there a ubuntu server channel?
[15:27] <Lamego> solexious, no, you can ask here
[15:27] <THE-HARDY-HERON> .
[15:27] <solexious> Great :)
[15:27] <THE-HARDY-HERON> 2 more days, till you inject your addict veins
[15:28] <solexious> How can i list instsalled packages?
[15:28] <kelvin911> where is sources .list?
[15:28] <DJones> solexious: I think #ubuntu-server although how busy it is, i'm not sure
[15:28] <Exteris> kelvin911, /etc/
[15:28] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server also solexious
[15:28] <Lamego> soldats, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[15:28] <kelvin911> or should i try it some other time?
[15:28] <oni_voide> I know what it is, has anyone got the final release of it
[15:28] <pcormack> kelvin911 its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:28] <kelvin911> when the ca server is on?
[15:28] <oni_voide> im running the release candidate
[15:28] <thiebaude> 8.04 is soo nice
[15:28] <Lamego> kelvin911, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:28] <Chaotic_Descent> well the partition is there.
[15:28] <VoidedCheck> that it is
[15:28] <Lamego> replace the "ca." with "us."
[15:28] <DJones> oni_voide: Its not released until thursday
[15:29]  * VoidedCheck huggles 8.04 despite the sharp beak
[15:29] <Chaotic_Descent> exteris: why would I need a floppy? no, I don't think I have one plugged in. or any blank CDs.
[15:29] <kelvin911> i think i will do that other time
[15:29] <kelvin911> need to go
[15:29] <thiebaude> i just got my 72 updates this morning
[15:29] <oni_voide> I know it's not released till thursday, but does anyone have it?
[15:30] <bazhang> aye oni_voide
[15:30] <VoidedCheck> oni_voide, it's still being worked on
[15:30] <VoidedCheck> so final doesn't even exist yet
[15:30] <oni_voide> ok
[15:30] <oni_voide> fail
[15:30] <thor> yep
[15:30] <Gistybit> dpkg-reconfigure is not installed in my 32bit chrooted environment. How do i install it?
[15:30] <thor> 70 updates here
[15:30] <Chaotic_Descent> ah good. mount shows info.
[15:30] <oni_voide> sudo apt-get install dpkg-reconfigure
[15:31] <HZ> hello all, I have a .srt file. how to play it as subtitle with MPlayer?
[15:31] <co-bangetz> how to update firefox 2.0 up to firefox 3.0
[15:31] <solexious> [Q] How can i list installed packages via commandline?
[15:31] <Gistybit> oni_voide, i tried that, but dpkg-reconfigure is not a package in the repository
[15:31] <Gistybit> oni_voide, it is part of something else
[15:31] <thiebaude> synaptic
[15:31] <Lamego> Gistybit, sudo apt-get install debconf
[15:31] <co-bangetz> please.. somebody help me
[15:31] <Lamego> oni_voide, if you dont know the answer, do not reply !
[15:32] <Chaotic_Descent> hrm. yes. it seems it's not mounted. is it safe to just remount it?
[15:32] <VoidedCheck> on gmplayer you can right-click, choose Open, Load subtitle
[15:32] <mh512> HZ: rename it to the same file name (except the extension is different) as the movie file you are player.
[15:32] <thor> co-bangetz: from synaptic
[15:32] <Gistybit> Lamego, it says debconf is already the newest version
[15:32] <Lamego> Gistybit, dpkg -S dpkg-reconfigure
[15:32] <oni_voide> lamego, i thought i did know the answer
[15:32] <bazhang> co-bangetz: install it
[15:32] <Lamego> oni_voide, after thinking, test it, thanks
[15:32] <HZ> mh512 I already did but :(
[15:32] <co-bangetz> how to install it..!!?
[15:32] <Lamego> Gilou, dpkg-reconfigure is provided by debconf
[15:33] <Lamego> Gilou, echo $PATH, probably sbin is not on your path
[15:33] <oni_voide> Why would I test it if I didnt have the problem myself?
[15:33] <Lamego> erm, i meant Gistybit
[15:33] <Gistybit> Lamego, debconf: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure
[15:33] <Lamego> oni_voide, if you dont have the problem, and are not sure on the answer, do not answer, thanks, lets close the subject
[15:33] <andcorps> anyone
[15:33] <Gistybit> there we go.. it appears path is set up wrong
[15:34] <bazhang> oni_voide: best not to give random answers that might cause other users grief
[15:34] <Gistybit> Lamego, ahh.. you already said so. thanks for your help
[15:34] <thor> co-bangetz: open up a terminal type this: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[15:34] <Lamego> Gistybit, edit /etc/environment
[15:34] <oni_voide> Why would not installing something cause greif?
[15:34] <Chaotic_Descent> OH THANK GOD my files are back!
[15:34] <HZ> mh512 : should I edit anything in the mplayer configration
[15:34] <thor> =D awesome Chaotic_Descent
[15:34] <Chaotic_Descent> will mounting and permissions stay in place normally?
[15:34] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent: nice! ;]
[15:34] <Gistybit> Lamego, /usr/local/sbin appears to be in PATH in that file, but perhaps it isn't loaded by dchroot ?
[15:34] <thor> it SHOULD
[15:34] <Chaotic_Descent> or do I have to run sudo commands each time I power up?
[15:35] <Chaotic_Descent> ok, thanks. guess it was just a fluke of upgrading.
[15:35] <Lamego> Gistybit, it should be, i have used dchroots in the past without any issues
[15:35] <thor> Chaotic_Descent: if it doesnt for some strange reason, you can just make a scrip to do it
[15:35] <co-bangetz> why my firefox cannot play youtube??
[15:35] <Chaotic_Descent> now I just have to get my iPod working. -_-;
[15:35] <thor> oh god
[15:35] <thor> co-bangetz: you need to install flash
[15:35] <Gistybit> Lamego, hm ok.. perhaps i set up something wrongly..
[15:35] <Lamego> co-bangetz, you need to install the flash plugin
[15:35] <oni_voide> Chaotic_Descent, you can create a shell to auto run a list of commands
[15:35] <Lamego> !flash | co-bangetz
[15:35] <ubotu> co-bangetz: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:36] <oni_voide> so you don't need to execute them all
[15:36] <guja_nebeska> Need help in setting iSight camera to Macbook Intel based 64-bit with Hardy on it! Thank you!
[15:36] <Chaotic_Descent> shell. I'll write that down to learn after my trip when I have more time. sounds important.
[15:36] <HZ> hey guys how to play the subtitle with mplayer?
[15:36] <thor> it can be very helpfull
[15:36] <VoidedCheck> HZ, is it gmplayer?
[15:37] <raldre1> Hey, anyone have any ideas why i never get the login box when I return to my computer after it has been on screensaver? The screen just goes blank.
[15:37] <thor> its a power setting
[15:37] <HZ> Voidedcheck: yes it's for Gnome
[15:37] <raldre1> I have checked my power sliders, they all both set to "Never"
[15:37] <VoidedCheck> HZ, did you try right clicking while video plays, Open, Load subtitle... ?
[15:38] <thor> laptop or desktop raldre1
[15:38] <raldre1> desktop
[15:38] <raldre1> 7.10
[15:38] <klaxian> ﻿is there any way to see which process is using the hard drive?
[15:38] <HZ> Voidedcheck: not yet I'll
[15:38] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm worried that one of the previous Windows iPod programs I used redid the iPod's database and/or something so that it can't be read normally. but then... gtkpod crashes every time I load it and I can't read the error window that pops up for half a second.
[15:38] <klaxian> ﻿frequently throughout the day, my hard drive usage spikes for about a minute but CPU usage remains low.  the computer is unresponsive but I can't determine what process is causing it
[15:38] <raldre1> thor: I have been reading the forums, some people have the same issue no one seems to have a solution.
[15:39] <yedday> what is the channel for the mail programm evolution?
[15:39] <thor> raldre1: and your screensaver isnt actually set to "blank" right?>
[15:39] <raldre1> no
[15:39] <yedday> this sucks, even when I cross "don't ask again" I always have to reenter my passphrase everytime I get an encrypted mail!
[15:39] <raldre1> the screen saver is running, I move the mouse, it goes blank, login window never appears.
[15:39] <andcorps> anywhere else can i go for ubuntu support
[15:40] <raldre1> if i just randomly type in to the black screen it works, and logs in.
[15:40] <Lamego> andcorps, what is your question ?
[15:40] <thor> klaxian: do you have harddrive tuning enabled?
[15:40] <andcorps> ok
[15:40] <yedday> problem turning up in evolution 2.12.1
[15:40] <bazhang> andcorps: did you ask a question?
[15:40] <andcorps> need to config my earphone
[15:40] <Gistybit> If i wish to remove my chrooted env, i should unlink all symbolic links in /chroot and then do a rm -rf right?.. how do i unlink everything recursively
[15:40] <andcorps> try to install
[15:40] <klaxian> thor: i'm not sure.  how can i check?
[15:40]  * oni_voide says hi
[15:40] <andcorps> alsa mixer and everything
[15:40] <oni_voide> wow! that is awesome
[15:40] <thor> klaxian: System>Services
[15:40] <andcorps> but it doesnt work
[15:40] <Lamego> Gistybit, you are not allowed to have symblinks from the chroot to out of it
[15:41] <Lamego> just make sure you unmount any "bind mounts"
[15:41] <klaxian> thor: i'm checking
[15:41] <Gistybit> Lamego, you're right.. it's in the fstab now i come to think of it
[15:41] <andcorps> someone just ask me to install kmix for a try
[15:41] <Lamego> Gistybit, those are bind mounts, yes, be carefull, if you dont unmount them, you may delete real "mounts" contents
[15:41] <klaxian> thor: i don't see a service listed for hard drive tuning
[15:41] <boggystudios> isn't apache and php supposed to just work right out of the box when it is installed or is there some kind of configuration that you have to do to get it to work?
[15:42] <Lamego> boggystudios, they do work out of the box
[15:42] <andcorps> so what should i do to make my sound output came thru my earphone
[15:42] <HZ> Voidedcheck: when I load subtitle it stops playing and when start it again it doesn't containg the subs too
[15:42] <Gistybit> Lamego, Exactly. how do i unbind them. Unmount says (of course) that the device is busy
[15:42] <shane2peru> anyone successfull in getting the 8.04 64bit server rc installed?
[15:42] <Lamego> assuming they were installed, sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[15:42] <VoidedCheck> HZ, dunno then, sorry
[15:42] <Lamego> Gistybit, you must get out of the chroot
[15:43] <HZ> Voidedcheck: no nvm
[15:43] <boggystudios> Lamego: I am having some troubles then.  When I try to view a .php file it just tries to download the file
[15:43] <Lamego> Gistybit, I would recommend you to use schroot instead, is easy to use and safer
[15:43] <thor> klaxian: hmm, you can try installing and using 'conky'
[15:43] <boggystudios> Lamego: but yeah they are installed
[15:43] <klaxian> thor: thanks, i'll try that
[15:43] <Lamego> boggystudios, if you are using firefox, try to clear the cache, and check the page again
[15:43] <Gistybit> Lamego, Roger.. i've read about schroot since. Thanks for you help..
[15:43] <thor> klaxian: it displays an active update of all sorts of system info
[15:44] <Lamego> !hardy | shane2peru
[15:44] <ubotu> shane2peru: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[15:44] <co-bangetz> ubotu: thanks..
[15:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks.. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:44] <co-bangetz> i will try it...
[15:44] <klaxian> thor: ok, installing now.  top didn't work because the CPU usage remains low when the hard drive is in use
[15:44] <laughzilla> anyone know why even after i reboot, the "fdisk /dev/sda1" commands i issued don't take? ie: my 80GB disk formatted as an HPFS/NTFS  doesn't switch to the Linux FS even though i deleted the NTFS partitions and replaced them with a Linux (83) partition.
[15:44] <HZ> Voidedcheck: hey I think it works but it's unreadable and strang
[15:44] <boggystudios> Lamego: still happens
[15:45] <shane2peru> Lamego, ahh, other channel thanks!
[15:45] <thor> laughzilla: did you actually "apply" the changes
[15:46] <laughzilla> thor - yes, i gave the "w" command to write / save / exit, and then it gave me a message saying "error 22 : ... the changes will take effect after your next reboot"
[15:46] <JbCrash> i now downloading ubuntu .iso file..
[15:46] <dzpvcdpn> does anybody know how to run a bittorent client on ubuntu gutsy without admin priveleges
[15:46] <klaxian> thor: i'm not sure conky will work...it doesn't show processes using the HD
[15:46] <Lamego> boggystudios, I don't have an actual apache2 install to check for the conf files that you should check, but it should be abled during the php5 module install
[15:46] <JbCrash> i hv 3 partition..its that ubuntu will detect my empty partition?
[15:46] <co-bangetz> can u tell me..how to install deepfreeze at ubuntu!!?
[15:46] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, there is a bittorrent client builtin
[15:46] <VoidedCheck> I didn't think you needed admin privliges to run bt on gutsy
[15:46] <dzpvcdpn> which command
[15:46] <thor> klaxian: also, your hdd might be running file indexing. see if there are any other search indesing services running. i know that there is a setting that lets it run in the background during system idle
[15:46] <bazhang> co-bangetz: what is deep freeze
[15:46] <Lamego> dzpvcdpn, the bittorrent clients for ubuntu do not required root privileges
[15:47] <dzpvcdpn> tell me what to type then
[15:47] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, bittorrent
[15:47] <JbCrash> i hv 3 partition..its that ubuntu will detect my empty partition?
[15:47] <klaxian> thor: i don't have tracker installed.  what other indexing services would I look for?
[15:47] <Exteris> Lamego, i assumed he didn't have privileges to install one
[15:47] <Lamego> JbCrash, it will
[15:47] <thor> klaxian: not sure, just wanted to make you aware of that
[15:48] <co-bangetz> deepfreeze is windows software
[15:48] <Lamego> Exteris, well, that is a possible interpretation, but it was not what he asked :P
[15:48] <klaxian> thor: thanks, that's the first thing i checked...i don't believe i have any indexing installed
[15:48] <thor> laughzilla: thats a toughy, hmm
[15:48] <klaxian> thor: and the logs don't show anything
[15:48] <bazhang> co-bangetz: what does it do
[15:48] <dzpvcdpn> noop doesnt work
[15:48] <Lamego> klaxian, eventually yo have trackerd running
[15:48] <laughzilla> thor ok i will try another way to format and partition the disk. thanks at least i know it's not normal :)
[15:48] <Lamego> klaxian, ps -ef | grep trackerd
[15:48] <dzpvcdpn> Exteris i am in an internet cafe
[15:49] <klaxian> Lamego: i uninstalled tracker...and there is no tracker process running
[15:49] <thor> laughzilla: have you tried any gui apps like gparted or qtparted?
[15:49] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, and the pc's are running ubuntu?
[15:49] <Lamego> ok
[15:49] <klaxian> Lamego: already did that, no tracker process running
[15:49] <Exteris> Lamego, ^_^
[15:49] <laughzilla> thor - nope, never even heard of those actually. i knew only command line stuff
[15:49] <dzpvcdpn> i think
[15:49] <klaxian> Lamego: that would have been the easy solution :-P
[15:49] <dzpvcdpn> exteris i think yes
[15:49] <thor> laughzilla: gparted is pretty nice ;)
[15:49] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, i don't know about portable torrent clients for linux
[15:50] <laughzilla> thor i don't seem to have gparted or qtparted installed in my ubuntu .. i'd have to add that first via synaptic, right ?
[15:50] <Exteris> how much can you do on that pc then?
[15:50] <thor> laughzilla: yes, sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:50] <bazhang> dzpvcdpn: doubtful an internet cafe will let you run a torrent client
[15:50] <laughzilla> ok thor thx i'll try that
[15:50] <co-bangetz> it can do return any system window which broken where windows reeboot
[15:50] <dzpvcdpn> Exteris what you mean
[15:50] <VoidedCheck> if they have wine installed you might try utorrent
[15:50] <Chaotic_Descent> what's that wiki link for linux file system? file... uh.... organization?
[15:50] <rambo3> there can be torrent on usb
[15:51] <oni_voide> internet cafe's block all ports sept 80 and http
[15:51] <oni_voide> so just point the client to port 80
[15:51] <dzpvcdpn> i have usb stick bud dont know what to put in  to
[15:51] <rambo3> since when do games run on port 80 ?
[15:51] <bazhang> not that many internet cafes use ubuntu
[15:51] <thor> isnt http the same thing as 80
[15:51] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, i don't know if it's possible
[15:51] <Exteris> thor, no it isnt
[15:51] <Exteris> they can even filter on http traffic
[15:51] <Exteris> then it isn't possible
[15:52] <dzpvcdpn> Exteris Thanks mate
[15:52] <chl> emacs erc
[15:52] <Exteris> dzpvcdpn, sorry i couldn't help
[15:53] <dzpvcdpn> no problem Thanks
[15:54] <bazhang> co-bangetz: deep freeze is a kind of system restore tool?
[15:54] <Chaotic_Descent> where can I find error logs for a program?
[15:54] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't find the thing that describes the linux file folders, so I can't use that to find it.
[15:55] <andre_pl> I can't seem to make my NFS Share writable.
[15:55] <thyko> whats a good CD/DVD writing software for gnome?
[15:55] <thor> brasero
[15:55] <Koheleth> anyone got ubuntu to see the scanner for a brother dcp 560 cn all in one?
[15:55] <bazhang> brasero gnomebaker are two thyko
[15:55] <thor> but i like K3b
[15:55] <thor> though its a kde app, it still works with gnome
[15:55] <Koheleth> I got the printer and copier going ok, just the scanner remains
[15:56] <MatthewMetzger> thyko: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomebaker/
[15:56] <thyko> MatthewMetzger: is that in the repos?
[15:56] <bazhang> aye thyko
[15:56] <MatthewMetzger> I believe that gnomebaker is.
[15:56] <MatthewMetzger> I've used it on occasion a while ago, seemed like it worked well.
[15:56] <Koheleth> hey Mathew was your dad or grandpa Bruce?
[15:57] <bazhang> they both are
[15:57] <MatthewMetzger> Koheleth: no. There are a lot of famous Metzgers that i'm not directly (closely) related to.
[15:57] <Koheleth>  :)
[15:57] <bazhang> in the repos that is
[15:58] <MatthewMetzger> Koheleth: I'm not even the Matthew Metzger that was on American Idol :)
[15:58] <Koheleth> I dont watch tele :p
[15:58] <MatthewMetzger> Koheleth: good for you. I don't either, but friends let me know that I was on the show a few years ago.
[15:59] <Koheleth> drives me nuts the tv
[15:59] <thyko> which one of the two normalizes audio?
[15:59] <Gman99999> how do i upgrade to hardy heron?
[15:59] <Koheleth> google adds is bad enough
[15:59] <thyko> and writes ISO images properly by default?
[15:59] <thyko> MatthewMetzger thor
[15:59] <bazhang> !upgrade | Gman99999
[15:59] <ubotu> Gman99999: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:59] <rambo3> hardy heroin ?
[16:00] <Koheleth> how come you work so good :)
[16:00] <frostburn> well
[16:00] <CrazyRat> uh....
[16:00] <thor> Gman99999: sudo apt-dist upgrade
[16:00] <bazhang> thor that is not the correct command
[16:01] <Gman99999> is hardy heron ready for upgrade?
[16:01] <thor> Gman99999: sudo apt-dist-upgrade
[16:01] <_spas_> !hardy
[16:01] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[16:01] <VoidedCheck> Gman99999, it will be in 2 days
[16:01] <Gman99999> ok Im gonna wait till then
[16:01] <bazhang> Gman99999: dont run those commands
[16:01] <Gman99999> is it everything it said it was going to be
[16:01] <Gman99999> is it everything it said it was going to be?
[16:01] <VoidedCheck> and more
[16:01] <Koheleth> the rc version is fine
[16:02] <thor> bazhang: i forgot the extra "-" whoops
[16:02] <Koheleth> I installed today
[16:02] <VoidedCheck> ok off to work I go
[16:02] <Gman99999> is the network manager better at handling wireless routers and wpa encryption?
[16:02] <VoidedCheck> see ya peeps later
[16:02] <bazhang> thor first update-manager -d
[16:02] <Gman99999> I can only successfully connect when Im in kde the gnome network manager sucks
[16:03] <thor> ha
[16:03] <thor> opposite for me
[16:03] <moha> hi there
[16:03] <thor> the kde networkmanager always fails
[16:03] <samu> hi all
[16:03] <bazhang> thor then dist-upgrade
[16:03] <Gman99999> lol not for me
[16:03] <MrBill_> My Gutsy install is telling me I have updates for apt and apt-utils, but they aren't downloading, How can I determine if it's something on my end causing that, or if it's a problem with the repository?
[16:03] <thor> bazhang: hmm, i didnt have to do the update-manager -d for heron
[16:04] <Gman99999> why is kde pointless full of options that utimatrly make it way too complex and annoying to even want to change the look of things?
[16:04] <thor> bazhang: but i did from 7.04 to 7.10...odd
[16:04] <bazhang> Gman99999: so more people will use gnome and let us kde users enjoy
[16:04] <StealthCP> See /join #ubuntu+1
[16:04] <StealthCP> whoops
[16:05] <Gman99999> I haven't found much enjoyment from it
[16:05] <Gman99999> I wanted to but haven't
[16:05] <thor> then install gnome
[16:05] <bazhang> thus you are in gnome
[16:05] <Gman99999> Ive got it already
[16:05] <thor> or xfce
[16:05] <bazhang> QED
[16:05] <laughzilla> thor - thanks that gparted worked ... took a while and i see plenty of "Gtk-WARNING **:" messages that tell me it failed to set text from markup due to error parsing market: Error on line 16: Character reference '8' does not encode a permitted character.
[16:05] <cabbarosman> can't wait for 8.10 alpha!!
[16:06] <bazhang> cabbarosman: then you are a bit late..
[16:06] <cabbarosman> :)
[16:06] <laughzilla> but it works .. the disk says "Linux" when i look up the info via   sudo fdisk -l    .. so thanks again :)
[16:06] <Gman99999> kde 4 looks nice
[16:06] <thor> laughzilla: sounds intense, just glad to here you got it to work
[16:06] <co-bangetz> bazhang: yup
[16:06] <no7up4u2> Gman99999, amen
[16:06] <cabbarosman> hehe sorry i meant stable
[16:07] <moha> brightness/Ubuntu 8.04 in Macbook Pro actived evry small time? any one to help to solve this issuE?
[16:07] <bazhang> co-bangetz: no real system restore needed; this is not windows with the constant reinstalls
[16:07] <cabbarosman> for some reason alpha sounds like the FinaL
[16:08] <thor> id like to run kde4
[16:08] <thor> it just sucks up to much memory from my laptop
[16:08] <Gman99999> what engine does osx use for its gui?
[16:08] <Gman99999> pixbuf?
[16:08] <moha>  brightness/Ubuntu 8.04 in Macbook Pro actived evry small time? any one to help to solve this issuE?
[16:08] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop then
[16:09] <Gman99999> is there any disadvantages to switching to kde 4 right now ?
[16:09] <thor> ive ran it before bazhang, its just to 'hungry'
[16:09] <bazhang> Gman99999: ask in ##apple they will know
[16:09] <mh512> Gman99999: X11?
[16:10] <kitche> Gman99999: besides it being a developer platform?
[16:10] <moha> brightness/Ubuntu 8.04 in Macbook Pro actived evry small time? any one to help to solve this issuE?
[16:10] <co-bangetz> bazhang: can u help how to clean printer ip1000 pixma at ubuntu like windows!!??
[16:10] <Gman99999> so its not quite use able then right now is it?
[16:11] <Lamego> !hardy | moha
[16:11] <ubotu> moha: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[16:11] <moha> Lamego, yeh man
[16:11] <Gman99999> will the older kde applications run on it ok?
[16:11] <moha> thaanks man
[16:12] <bazhang> co-bangetz: not sure how windows does it; not really familiar with that platform
[16:12] <kitche> Gman99999: well can run but you need to have qt3 installed along with qt4 since kde4 uses qt4 instead but most people like it just some things are oddbally about it
[16:12] <nickthorley> hi all - does anyone know if there are any options to encrypt a filesystem in 8.04?
[16:12] <Gman99999> ok
[16:12] <sven> hi all, can someone help me change a hex value to decimal?
[16:12] <rycole> hey all, im reading up on ubuntu user management. i've read that "/etc/skel" is a basic user's home directory for when an account is created - is this correct with the current version of ubuntu?
[16:13] <rycole> mine seems to be empty.
[16:13] <bazhang> nickthorley: truecrypt is worth a look
[16:14] <Gecko> Hi there. I'm looking for an application that works like a graphic front-end to ssh, and thus ask for the credentials graphicly. Can anyone help?
[16:14] <Matti_A> Hello
[16:15] <rycole> nevermind - i see that it does grab files from /etc/skel, by looking at adduser
[16:15] <Matti_A> Yesterday I installed ubuntu to this laptop
[16:15] <Matti_A> It's on dual-boot with Windows and everything works just fine
[16:15] <Matti_A> BUT
[16:15] <genii> sven: http://www.easycalculation.com/hex-converter.php
[16:15] <Matti_A> WLAN connects only when AC cable is not plugged
[16:15] <thezanke> bazhang, i am downloading at 8000 bytes
[16:15] <thezanke> bazhang, whats wrong? ;_;
[16:16] <Matti_A> I have to remove it and then plug back
[16:16] <Matti_A> Has anyone ever heard of smilar problem?
[16:16] <bazhang> thezanke: that will happen every so often--one would imagine that especially now when everyone is getting ready for a big release in two days time
[16:16] <thor> sounds like it could be a driver issue
[16:17] <Gman99999> is it possible to change your boot splash to a theme you desire in ubuntu without adding another kernel?
[16:17] <Pici> !usplash | Gman99999
[16:17] <ubotu> Gman99999: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[16:17] <MrBill> I'm attempting to update my apt and apt-utils as prompted by my autoupdater, but the download is failing on them, how can I tell if it's something on my end causing the failure, or if it's a problem perhaps with the repository?
[16:17] <thor> Gman99999: of course
[16:17] <Gman99999> how in the heck can you add anything to usplash?
[16:17] <Pici> Gman99999: Read that link there.
[16:17] <thor> Gman99999: you can install start-up  manager
[16:18] <bazhang> Gman99999: read the link and find out
[16:18] <Gman99999> I did already and it was buggy as hell
[16:18] <Gman99999> it didnt work
[16:18] <thor> sorry, startup manager
[16:18] <tzd> need help with my mounted and not mouned filesystems please?
[16:18] <goldensun> salut
[16:18] <Pici> tzd: Ask a question first ;)
[16:18] <bazhang> tzd gutsy or above
[16:19] <Gman99999> ok thsi is for edgy eft haven't some of these commands and command locations changed since then?
[16:19] <tzd> Pici: ok ;) bazhang: above (hardy)
[16:19] <Pici> tzd: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:19] <Gistybit> Hm i installed schroot and debootstrapped a gutsy environment in /var/chroot. When trying to start opera it says it cannot connect to X server. In the export flags DISPLAY is set to "0.0"
[16:19] <tzd> ok Pici thanks
[16:19] <gordon> .
[16:20] <thezanke> bazhang, how do i update everything through apt? i forget.. I dont like the update manager though
[16:20] <Matti_A> Noone has heard of my problem?
[16:20] <gordon> Is it possible to have xmodmap remap a key to a modifier + a key? for example "Control_L + O"
[16:20] <Lamego> Gistybit, have you tried with a simpler client, like xterm or xclock ?
[16:21] <old_marcus> Hi guys
[16:21] <bazhang> thezanke: you can sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade via the terminal
[16:21] <Gman99999> say I want to add a theme like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/tuxOSX+-+gensplash?content=49450
[16:21] <Gman99999> would the usplash and start up manager be able to handle this?
[16:21] <Gistybit> Lamego, yeah. Sorry for bothering you.. DISPLAY was not set.. i got confused amongst my terminal windows. How do i get schroot to do export DISPLAY=:0 automatically?
[16:22] <thor> yes
[16:23] <ikonia> Gistybit: shell login profile
[16:23] <old_marcus> I'm having trouble trying to keep my mtu settings permanent. any help? I've looked at various method, and it's all a bit confusing
[16:24] <ikonia> old_marcus what are you doing to set them
[16:24] <lobazo_> i can't play vcd in totem someone can help me?
[16:24] <Gistybit> ikonia, you suggesting editing the /etc/profile ?
[16:25] <ikonia> Gistybit: no, as thats entered when you login, not when you chroot, but for your users chroot command, replace it with a script that sets display THEN chroots
[16:26] <Gistybit> ikonia, i tried setting DISPLAY=:0 before schrooting, but the flag isn't set after it changes root
[16:26] <Lamego> Gistybit, hum, I am using schroot and I have no need to setup the DISPLAY env
[16:26] <ikonia> Gistybit: what is your chroot command ?
[16:27] <Lamego> use schroot -p
[16:27] <Gistybit> i just do.. "schroot <params>"
[16:27] <Lamego> to keep your environment, among other things, it will keep the display var :P
[16:27] <ikonia> oh your actually using schroot - I thought that was a stypo
[16:27] <Gistybit> Lamego, hehe thanks
[16:27] <Lamego> I have an alias for my schroot, alias s32='schroot -c hardy.i386 -p'
[16:27] <Gistybit> ikonia, ok.. i think the -p wil save my troubles
[16:28] <runa_> hi i have a mp3player (gogear of philips) there must be a folder named _system but i cant see it
[16:28] <runa_> can sb help me ? the problem is that i cant put music on it
[16:29] <Khamael> runa_: I can`t see that that is an ubuntu problem
[16:30] <thor> make sure "view hidden files/folders" is enabled...
[16:30] <thor> otherwise im not sure
[16:30] <ttkeppi> ctrl+h shows hidden files and folders
[16:30] <runa_> Khamael: i thought that there was a way to really see whats inside the flash
[16:31] <Khamael> runa_: if the folder has a "." in front of it, it will be hidden in linux
[16:31] <Khamael> runa_: but try what thor and ttkeppi said
[16:31] <beex> is there a usb install guide for hardy? everything I see talks aboutt gutsy.
[16:32] <vinconzo> anybody here with any experience with tftp?
[16:32] <Khamael> beex: I think that is because hardy isn`t out yet
[16:32] <ttkeppi> runa_: under /media folder should be the flash card/drive
[16:32] <Stroganoff> runa_: http://trey.cwtsecure.com/2005/10/23/philips-gogear-and-linux/
[16:32] <Khamael> beex: and there is a #ubuntu+1
[16:33] <beex> Khamael, my apologies, I thought I was in ubuntu+1
[16:33] <beex> Khamael, thanks tho
[16:33] <Khamael> beex: np
[16:35] <Schypher_> my wireless AP wpa encryption key is different to the encryption key found when i run wpa_passphrase, why is that?
[16:36] <thor> it hates you :p
[16:36] <Schypher_> another device joined the queue
[16:37] <xFlipx> is there an xmms channel?
[16:37] <JozefPaczenko> hey
[16:38] <xFlipx> or anybody willing to answer some xmms and panel bar questions?
[16:38] <THE-HARDY-HERON> OVERSULFATED chondroitin SULFATE
[16:38] <Khamael> xFlipx: tried audacious?
[16:38] <xFlipx> Khamael, yes
[16:39] <Adys> how do i entirely restart compiz?
[16:39] <Pici> !offtopic > the-hardy-heron (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:39] <xFlipx> I just want xmms to display in my panel bar instead of within the player window
[16:39] <thor> reboot
[16:39] <W8TAH> are the update update servers being really slow today???
[16:39] <xFlipx> Adys, check in /etc/init.d for compiz
[16:39] <bazhang> thor that is not necessary
[16:39] <THE-HARDY-HERON> hi benjamin
[16:39] <THE-HARDY-HERON> oops
[16:40] <thor> sorry a bit of sarcasm
[16:40] <xFlipx> Adys, if it's in there do a sudo /etc/init.d/compiz restart
[16:40] <Adys> checked, its not there
[16:40] <bazhang> Adys: try metacity --replace (alt f2 first) then again alt f2 compiz --replace
[16:40] <xFlipx> then do ps -ef | grep compiz
[16:40] <JozefPaczenko> i'm downloading kubuntu 8.04 mixed desktop installation disc. i've just suprisingly noticed information that alternate installation disc allows user to install kubuntu on machine with less than 384 MB of RAM. i was wondering - does it mean that desktop installation on pc with 256MB RAM won't work at all?
[16:41] <Adys> yup that did it bazhang
[16:41] <Adys> thanks
[16:41] <Exteris> JozefPaczenko, it will, but it'll be slow, only the livecd requires more ram
[16:41] <hari_> i don't suggest to do compiz --replace
[16:41] <JozefPaczenko> oh, i'm relieved now
[16:41] <JozefPaczenko> thanks
[16:41] <gohu> re ^^
[16:41] <Lamego> 256 is the minimum to run the installer
[16:41] <JozefPaczenko> i guess i should buy some ram anyway..
[16:42] <hari_> It could cause windows border disappear isn't it? don't why
[16:42] <THE-HARDY-HERON> nice
[16:42] <THE-HARDY-HERON> playing diablo2 in wine, on my 8.04 box
[16:42] <THE-HARDY-HERON> with 9800 GX2...
[16:42] <THE-HARDY-HERON> this is cool that quad sli works in 8.04 now
[16:42] <Lamego> !ops | THE-HARDY-HERON all day off-topic
[16:42] <ubotu> THE-HARDY-HERON all day off-topic: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[16:42] <Pici> THE-HARDY-HERON: Please take offtopic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic  #ubuntu is for support only.
[16:42] <Exteris> hari_, if emerald crashes you'll lose your borders
[16:43] <xFlipx> did hardy get released today?
[16:43] <Pici> xFlipx: no
[16:43] <THE-HARDY-HERON> 2 more days
[16:43] <xFlipx> ahh
[16:43] <THE-HARDY-HERON> our e-heroin is almost here
[16:43] <thor> lol
[16:43] <THE-HARDY-HERON> i can feel it.....injecting 8.04 into our bloodstream to satisfy our addiction
[16:43] <Lamego> THE-HARDY-HERON, please stop creating noise on the channel !
[16:43] <THE-HARDY-HERON> lamego, did you install 7.10?
[16:43] <bazhang> THE-HARDY-HERON: please stop now
[16:43] <PriceChild> THE-HARDY-HERON: you can go to #ubuntu-release-party to party :)
[16:43] <hari_> why it could crashes? i have to reinstall my ubuntu since my border disappear :-(
[16:43] <Myrtti> THE-HARDY-HERON: this is the final warning
[16:43] <Myrtti> THE-HARDY-HERON: elsewhere with the offtopic
[16:44] <THE-HARDY-HERON> look at all of the internet geeks piling up like a pack of rabid wolves
[16:44] <THE-HARDY-HERON> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[16:44] <hwilde> !ops
[16:44] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[16:44] <Myrtti> that was fun
[16:44] <daekdroom> That was sad.
[16:44] <hari_> i think it is caused by comppiz --replace command
[16:44] <daekdroom> He made fun of Hardy Heron :(
[16:45] <W8TAH> thanks pici
[16:45] <qaws> hi, is there any admin tool for squid, that it based on php, or something similar, so begginer can try to administer it?
[16:46] <bazhang> hari_: no need to reinstall over that--did you?
[16:46] <hari_> should be..
[16:46] <bryan> hi, may I ask an Upgrade question to someone plz
[16:46] <bazhang> hari_: you reinstalled?
[16:46] <bazhang> please do bryan
[16:46] <hari_> but after trying to figure it out can't get my border back
[16:46] <Matti_A> I'm still having problems with wlan connction and ac power
[16:47] <bryan> Am currently running Ubuntu 7.10 (really new to Linux), and was unsure of what to do when v8 comes out this week
[16:47] <Finnish_> What is a good program to write invoices?
[16:47] <bazhang> hari_: please join #compiz-fusion
[16:48] <bryan> do i download it, or is there an upgrade option?
[16:48] <Matti_A> Finnish_: notepad! :P
[16:48] <hari_> yes reinstalled again. i lost my border since i change my session to xfce and can get it back although change it again to gnome
[16:48] <`ru> I think you can upgrade easily, bryan
[16:48] <hari_> yes , thanks.. will join
[16:48] <frostburn> bryan, the update manager will pop up saying there's a new version available would you like to upgrade
[16:48] <bryan> as simple as that?
[16:49] <hari_> i mea can't get it back although change it again to gnome
[16:49] <shipclar> I was wondering if anyone has ever attempted to get both the ATI and nvidia drivers working simultaneously?  I need/want both as I have a pci ATI card, and an AGP nvidia cardd
[16:49] <Finnish_> Matti_A: Just..
[16:49] <Finnish_> Hehe
[16:49] <hari_> shipclar: are you using 2 graphic card
[16:50] <shipclar> hari_ yes
[16:50] <frostburn> bryan, yep
[16:50] <hari_> just trying ati driver for gutsy.. work well
[16:50] <bryan> and its due on Thursday right, this week?
[16:50] <bazhang> aye bryan
[16:50] <GamingX> It's been a long time since I used ubuntu, what's the location of the grub?
[16:51] <MenZa> /boot/grub, GamingX
[16:51] <bryan> many thanks. Been too used to Windows (20 Years)...its like starting all over again..only better
[16:51] <humitos> hello
[16:51] <GamingX> Thanks.
[16:52] <GamingX> I've got a problem, it's probably due to dual booting ubuntu with Windows XP. Anyone free to help?
[16:52] <humitos> how I do to convert avi to mp4?
[16:52] <bazhang> GamingX: installed xp second and lost grub?
[16:52] <humitos> I was trying with mencoder but I can't find the corrects arguments...
[16:52] <terminhell> just ask
[16:53] <JozefPaczenko> i believe you should put some kind of "Don't ask to ask, just ask" statement in topic
[16:53] <bazhang> !ask
[16:53] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:53] <bazhang> JozefPaczenko: like that?
[16:54] <bazhang> !grub | GamingX
[16:54] <ubotu> GamingX: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:54] <JozefPaczenko> i'm not sure if any of newcomers are able to find that.
[16:54] <GamingX> Ok. This used to happen when I was using Ubuntu 7.04. After that I removed Ubuntu and now installed 7.10. The problem is that whenever I boot into Ubuntu, restart the system and boot into Windows, the ethernet card just dissappears rendering me without net.
[16:55] <JozefPaczenko> hah, kubuntu has just finished downloading. now reboot to gentoo and burn the iso. bye.
[16:57] <rwycuff> GamingX : that sounds more like issue with your windows install
[16:57] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm trying to migrate my working preseed configuration from 6.06.1 to 7.10.  The following lines are in my preseed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64012/ .  Under 6.06.1 there was no problem, but under 7.10 and above, during the automatic partition, I get a "No root file system is defined" error.  Does anybody know a solution around this?
[16:57] <bazhang> does windows have the correct drivers installed GamingX? does ubuntu work fine?
[16:57] <GamingX> I don't think so. I had Windows installed and running much before Ubuntu, and the ethernet card used to run fine.
[16:58] <GamingX> bazhang: The drivers all run perfectly.
[16:58] <bazhang> GamingX: seems like a windows issue though if ubuntu works fine
[16:58] <rwycuff> GamingX:ubuntu does not corrupt anything in windows only windows does that so it simply must be misconfiguration in windows
[16:59] <GamingX> rwycuff: How come it was working fine before installing Ubuntu?
[16:59] <GamingX> I installed Ubuntu, just a few hours ago.
[16:59] <bazhang> was going to suggest opening a terminal, but this is windows
[16:59] <dethstar> how's the latest RC of 8.04?
[16:59] <dethstar> thinking about giving it a try
[16:59] <bazhang> !hardy | dethstar
[16:59] <ubotu> dethstar: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[17:00] <GamingX> bazhang: Yeah.
[17:00] <dethstar> okay?
[17:00] <Slart> dethstar: it worked for me.. it's just one cdr, give it a try
[17:00] <bazhang> does it even have a terminal?
[17:00] <GamingX> bazhang: Nah.
[17:00] <dethstar> yeah, I'm downing the torrent right now
[17:00] <Slart> GamingX: does the card show up in the device manager at all? or you do not get an ip?
[17:00] <Pici> dethstar: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:00] <bazhang> dethstar: what speed you getting?
[17:00] <PedanticSteve> I DLd it yesterday to beat the crowd
[17:00] <dethstar> k
[17:01] <rwycuff> GamingX: first in my opinion windows/Drivers is horrible to begin with it coulda happened weather you had installed ubuntu or not its about the timing that it happend thats all
[17:01] <GamingX> Slart: It doesn't show up.
[17:01] <dethstar> 332k
[17:01] <dethstar> down
[17:01] <bazhang> nice
[17:01] <dethstar> 32 up
[17:01] <bazhang> only two more days of redirecting folks ;]
[17:01] <dethstar> I'm on dual T1
[17:01] <AlabamaHit> Can anyone help  me import a MYSQL Database Dump onto my computer so i can run it on the comptuer (offline) to test pages before I upload them to the internet....I have the dumb and ran through a tuturoal in LAMP i think i have everything installed i just need to know how to get My database on here and to get my pages to read it....
[17:01] <Slart> GamingX: then I have nothing.. try reinstalling the driver
[17:02] <GamingX> Slart: The driver is plug and play.
[17:02] <Slart> GamingX: I can't help you further..  I don't think it's ubuntu-related, sorry
[17:02] <GamingX> Slart: No Problem
[17:03] <bazhang> ##windows does have a channel GamingX you might try there
[17:03] <rwycuff> AlabamaHit: mysql -u root -p <DatabaseName> < path to dump
[17:05] <freedie> hello
[17:05] <rwycuff> hi
[17:05] <dalton2345> thursday the big release :)
[17:05] <legend2440> humitos: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-convert-videos-to-ipod-smartphone.html
[17:05] <AlabamaHit> rwycuff: where do you supposed to dumb them to? is there a specific folder for mysql to read it?
[17:06] <dalton2345> there's an article on bbc about ubuntu's new release
[17:06] <humitos> legend2440: estaba leyendo eso
[17:06] <AlabamaHit> like /etc/mysql ?
[17:06] <rwycuff> AlabamaHit: if yuo made dump it should dump it to .sql file some place
[17:06] <humitos> legend2440: (ups... not spanish)
[17:06] <rwycuff> it would have dumped it to dir that you was in when you did the dump of the database
[17:06] <pistache-ubuntu> dalton2345 : do you have thhe link ?
[17:06] <humitos> legend2440: i get an error "Unknown codec 'xvid'"
[17:07] <dalton2345> i'll give it to u
[17:07] <toresn> i need a script that converts a directory of flac files to ogg ... any recommendations? i prefer non-gui
[17:07] <hwilde> AlabamaHit, when you do a restore from a mysql dump you just put < filename so you can put it wherever you want
[17:07] <dalton2345> pistache-ubuntu: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7358483.stm
[17:08] <pistache-ubuntu> thanks dalton
[17:08] <dalton2345> uw
[17:08] <legend2440> humitos: have you tried ffmpeg?
[17:08] <combine> connect eglug
[17:09] <humitos> legend2440: I don't understund you..
[17:09] <AlabamaHit> rwycuff:  mysql -u root -p <DatabaseName> < path to dump does that mean <databasename> is that my sql file? cuase if so i got an error on that....
[17:09] <kdub432> toresn: ffmpeg will be able to do what you need
[17:09] <combine> sorry dude i typed that in the wrong place
[17:09] <Scavenger2008> toresn: or http://freshmeat.net/projects/flac2ogg/
[17:09] <ubuntu> buenas
[17:09] <AlabamaHit> rwycuff: i ran this  mysql -u root -p thuglife.sql < /etc/mysql
[17:09] <RodGo> i need some help, my server is getting overloaded, when i run the command 'top' i can see like 4 mysql process using more than 20% memory each
[17:09] <RodGo> when i do a 'ps -A | grep mysql'  i see like 20 mysql process
[17:09] <guja_nebeska> Need help in setting iSight camera to Macbook Intel based 64-bit with Hardy on it! Thank you!
[17:09] <guja_nebeska> Need help in setting iSight camera to Macbook Intel based 64-bit with Hardy on it! Thank you!
[17:09] <RodGo> is it ok to have more than 1 mysql process??
[17:09] <RodGo> :s
[17:09] <RodGo> any help would be really apreciated
[17:09] <rwycuff> AlabamaHit: NO that is data base you want to import the sql to
[17:10] <Pici> AlabamaHit: I think its: mysql -u root -p youradatabase < /path/to/file.sql
[17:10] <Pici> guja_nebeska: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:10] <guja_nebeska> 10x Pici
[17:10] <legend2440> humitos: ffmpeg is a linux package like mencoder. i was asking if you have tried ffmpeg?
[17:10] <Lamego> RodGo, yes, mysql balances load among several processes
[17:11] <GamingX> Here's a post that I made in August 2007 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=532584, had the same problem that time too.
[17:11] <AlabamaHit> rwycuff: pici i dont know what my database is....i just installed this yesterday and yesterday was my first day messing with it. where would i find my database name at?
[17:11] <RodGo> then why my server gets so overloaded at some moments
[17:11] <humitos> legend2440: yes, I'm using it
[17:11] <Rainarrow> Hello, anyone running hardy on a ATi X300
[17:11] <Pici> AlabamaHit: you'd probably need to create the database if you dont have one already.
[17:11] <RodGo> that my monit program (god) sends me a timeout notice and resteart the process
[17:11] <Pici> RodGo: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:11] <Rainarrow> I can't get the restricted driver to work
[17:11] <Pici> RodGo: sorry, mistype
[17:11] <AlabamaHit> oh
[17:11] <FloodBot2> Pici: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <Pici> RodGo: Please join #ubuntu+1
[17:11] <rwycuff> AlabamaHit:you must create said database first
[17:12] <AlabamaHit> lol
[17:12] <Pici> RodGo: arg! Sorry, again.
[17:12] <Pici> Rainarrow: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:12] <rwycuff> GamingX:thisisnt linux/ubuntu issue its windows go over to ##Windows and ask
[17:12] <Rainarrow> Pici, Thanks
[17:12] <legend2440> humitos:  this script (mp4ize) works for me http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-convert-videos-to-ipod-smartphone.html
[17:12] <AlabamaHit> is there a quick command to that?
[17:12]  * abcd off jo tre
[17:12] <GamingX> rwycuff: It happens when I install Ubuntu, doesn't it? So that makes it an Ubuntu issue.
[17:13] <Yancho> is there something similar to Active Directory on Windows in Linux please?
[17:13] <Pici> Yancho: LDAP, and AD is based off that actually.
[17:13] <Yancho> thanks Pici - ill read about it :)
[17:14] <pat_> hi, how can update from 7.06 to 7.10 without downloading ? i got the burned cd of 7.10  here
[17:14] <rwycuff> GamingX:use common senc and little logic you will see its windows problem ...its like saying Lightening  stuch the ground and i know i left gas on the lawn but its the lightenings fault that my whole lawn went up in flames
[17:14] <humitos> legend2440: I get an error with ffmpeg
[17:15] <Pici> pat_: You cannot unless you have the alternate CD.
[17:15] <Lamego> GamingX, not really, your issue has not relation with the ubuntu install, installing ubuntu will not affect your windows devices configuration in any way
[17:15] <Lamego> just backup your data and do a fresh install :P
[17:16] <GamingX> oh, ok. Let's see what the guys in #Windows say.
[17:16] <legend2440> humitos: maybe someone in channel #ffmpeg can help with the error. sounds like a codec problem
[17:16] <pat_> Lamego: i try to avoid the backup thing ;)
[17:16] <GamingX> Lamego: You telling me to backup and reinstall?
[17:17] <Lamego> GamingX, , no, this was another answer, you just get into the right channel :)
[17:18] <shane2peru> bug 1
[17:19] <MrBill> My update Manger is failing when it tries to fetch the debs for apt and apt-utils from ca.archive.ubuntu.com - does anyone know if there is a problem with this repository at the moment?
[17:19] <Lamego> MrBill, yes, someone reported a similar problem some minutes ago, just change to another mirror
[17:19] <shane2peru> !bug 1
[17:19] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[17:19] <Dassouki> when i bring my computer back to life from suspend, all i get is a loud deafening noise (beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep). i'm using gusty on an asus laptop with nvidea card :D
[17:19] <W8TAH> Lamego: how does one change mirrors -- im currently using kubuntu and adept
[17:20] <Lamego> W8TAH, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:20] <MrBill> I don't know how to change that, so I'll just wait until later when things are fixed =)
[17:20] <W8TAH> ok
[17:20] <Pici> MrBill: It just involves going into System>Administration>Software sources
[17:21] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, How do I recover damaged GZip file?
[17:21] <Koheleth> guys, how do I edit xconf?
[17:21] <Koheleth> and where is it
[17:21] <Schypher_> is there another tool beside nm-applet?
[17:21] <Lamego> Koheleth, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:21] <rwycuff> Koheleth:with text editor and run whereis xconf
[17:21] <Koheleth> thanks
[17:22] <legend2440> Koheleth: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:22] <Schypher_> is there another tool beside nm-applet doesn't seem to be working with my ndiswrapper driver
[17:22] <Koheleth> thanks again
[17:23] <Koheleth> cant see what I want in xconf
[17:24] <Koheleth> my login screen uses a english key map, it needs to be French
[17:24] <Koheleth> any ideas
[17:24] <AlabamaHit> How do i install a mysql database or if i have one installed cuase i thought i did where is it located? so i can get the name?
[17:25] <Koheleth> hang on think I see it
[17:25] <zbecker> AlabamaHit: type mysql in console
[17:25] <Koheleth> rebboot, brb
[17:25] <MrBill> I have an 8gb USB flashdrive that moves between a few Ubuntu systems and a few WinXP stations, it's formatted NTFS and is recognizing fine. Where I run into troubles is when I try to delete a file from Ubuntu, it's being placed in .trash, but I don't know of any way to remove it and free up the space aside form opening a terminal window, browsing in and manually deleting the file in .trash. is there a better way?
[17:25] <Pici> AlabamaHit: Installing mysql does not install a database, it installs the rdbms, you need to create a database yourself. Perhaps #mysql or the mysql documentation could help you with that.
[17:26] <Jimmey> Can someone please help me with my bcm43xx card on hardy? I have used the instructions to get the card's firmware installed in the correct directory, and it's now recognising WLANs, but I can't seem to connect to any of them, specifically the one in my house - Protected by a WPA password. It asks for the password, but then can't connect, with dmesg saying things like: "authentication with AP mac:addr:here timed out" and "wlan0: link is not ready"
[17:26] <GamingX> I'll do with the USB for now. I wanted to install a LAMP Server on Ubuntu, and I read somewhere that installing Ubuntu Server on a VM would be a good idea. Can I try it?
[17:26] <Pici> Jimmey: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[17:27] <Jimmey> Pici, I already have, but that didn't solve the problem, I thought I'd ttry here
[17:27] <pistache-ubuntu> Ubuntu Server have got problem when running on VM, because of PAE.
[17:27] <Pici> Jimmey: #ubuntu is not the place to ask about Hardy questions until Hardy is actually released.
[17:27] <pistache-ubuntu> You will just need to do "apt-get install linux-386 apt-get remove linux-server"
[17:28] <HZ> where is cxoffice, I can't find it in synaptic or even a site to download the package?
[17:28] <Jimmey> Pici, perhaps someone in here that's not in ubuntu+1 knows the answer? ;-)
[17:28] <pistache-ubuntu> But, before you need to open a shell, and it is hard on a system that does not work. I know you can do that on the LiveCD, but I haven't tried since.
[17:29] <jhaig> HZ: cxoffice is a commercial package, so you need to buy it.  You cannot get it via HZ.  You can, however, get wine.
[17:29] <Pici> Jimmey: Perhaps, but we have separate channels for a reason, and Hardy is offtopic for here.
[17:29] <jhaig> HZ: I meant, "You cannot get it via synaptic"  :-)
[17:30] <vicky123> can u tell me how to make bootable flash drive?
[17:30] <sahak> hello
[17:30] <sahak> how can I upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04?
[17:30] <HZ> jhaig: so where to but it I couldn't find a site for it and I need it in stade of wine
[17:30] <Koheleth> thanks kepmap sorted
[17:30] <jhaig> HZ: This is the website to download it from: http://www.codeweavers.com/
[17:31] <jbroome> !upgrade | sahak
[17:31] <ubotu> sahak: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:31] <Koheleth> upgrading looks a doodle
[17:31] <Koheleth> somethinf SuSE needs to sort out
[17:31] <vicky123> can anyone tell me how to make flash drive bootable ?
[17:31] <Lamego> !usb | vicky123
[17:31] <ubotu> vicky123: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:32] <HZ> jhaig: by the way where to find a tutorial to configer wine
[17:32] <aoupi> weird permission problem going on. Mounted an external firewire drive (HFS+). mount says: "/dev/sdc2 on /media/Macintosh HD type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)" but when I do something like `touch "/media/Macintosh HD/abc` I get: "touch: cannot touch `abc': Read-only file system". What might be the problem?
[17:32] <Koheleth> vicky boot with the flash drive connect, eneter the bios and choose it
[17:32] <jhaig> HZ: I don't know.  I've never worked out how to configure wine.
[17:32] <Koheleth> then boot again
[17:33] <MExTux> I need some help. My problem is that I have a Pavilion laptop (3.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM and video card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600) and installed Gutsy on it. Yesterday I tried to install the ATI driver using Envy and got this message: "Legacy driver does not support your operating system"
[17:33] <HZ> jhaig anyhow thx:)
[17:34] <jhaig> HZ: Most of the wine developers work for Codeweavers, so most of the work goes into the commercial product.  It does all the configuration for you.
[17:34] <Hikejinx> !envy | Metxtux
[17:34] <ubotu> Metxtux: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:34] <afallenhope> hey I accidentally hit WINKEY + R and now everythign is all magnified
[17:35] <GamingX> quit
[17:35] <DaemonLee> Aight. I got a quick and simple question. What's the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit? Is there a performance difference or not? I know that certain programs can no longer be installed due to their corresponding 32bit libraries...
[17:35] <afallenhope> hey I accidentally hit WINKEY + R and now everythign is all magnified,... anyone able to help?
[17:36] <xx0xx> hello
[17:36] <sipior> DaemonLee: there is a occasionally a performance difference, depending on the application. it is not usually enormous, and isn't really, by itself, a good reason to migrate to a 64-bit system.
[17:36] <xx0xx> i cannot start proftpd. its saying ipv6 cannot resolve
[17:37] <sipior> DaemonLee: and sometimes there is a decrease in performance, because of the larger pointer size.
[17:38] <MExTux> Currently I'm using the drivers that Ubuntu came with. But I would like to play Max Payne with Wine and don't know if the ATI video driver is necessary
[17:38] <ianliu_89> What is the command to pop up a new terminal window?
[17:38] <sipior> ianliu_89: gnome-terminal, iirc
[17:39] <ianliu_89> thanks
[17:39] <inavat> hello
[17:40] <DaemonLee> sipior: So, should I pick 64bit or not? I mean, I have a AMD Turion x2 2.0ghz
[17:40] <ikex> i changed to 32bit from 64 because of the performance hit
[17:40] <sipior> DaemonLee: your choice. it really doesn't matter, unless you have something specific in mind.
[17:40] <DaemonLee> Nothing specific.
[17:41] <inavat> so, I need to resize a reiserfs partition.  This is starting to seem like it'll be a much more difficult task than I thought it'd be.  I need to make my /home, on its own primary partition, bigger.  It has plenty of free space afterward.
[17:42] <jbroome> inavat: there's a gparted live cd that might be helpful
[17:42] <zbecker_> Is there a way to turn off the join/quit messages in irc
[17:42] <inavat> I think what I need to do is... create a new partition at the end of the free space, at least as big as the current /home... cp /home/* to this new partition.  Then delete the /home partition and create a new one of the size I want.  Then copy everythign back.
[17:42] <jbroome> zbecker_: what client?
[17:42] <zbecker_> irssi
[17:42] <inavat> Does that sound right?
[17:43] <XB23> hey guys using limits.conf would it be possible to stop a user from running certain processes such as shoutcast or ircd?
[17:43] <jbroome> good choice.  /ignore #ubuntu+1 JOINS QUITS PARTS
[17:43] <Koheleth> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[17:43] <Koheleth> thats got gparted on it
[17:43] <inavat> jbroome: there shouldn't be any functional difference between gparted and qtparted, correct?  both are just parted frontends?
[17:44] <zbecker_> jbroome: Thanks =)
[17:44] <jbroome> inavat: yeah, they should be fine.  Just use a current version and you should be good
[17:44] <jbroome> zbecker_: you can toss NICKS in there too if you'd like
[17:44] <S_UBU>  /server irc.daxnet.no
[17:45] <inavat> In that case, GParted won't help me.  I tried QTParted, and it turns out QTParted can't resize reiser4 (I think I have reiser4, not 3 or whatever.. is there an easy way to tell?).  When I try, the "resize" option is grayed out
[17:45] <zbecker_> jbroome: will that block when people change their nick?
[17:45] <sipior> XB23: i don't believe so. it is designed to enforce resource usage limits, not access to particular binaries.
[17:45] <jbroome> zbecker_: yeah you won't see it
[17:46] <zbecker_> jbroome: Very cool, thanks.
[17:46] <DaemonLee> Question: 8.04 comes out in two days, and the Release Canidate is on the web, is it safe to use on a production machine?
[17:46] <sipior> DaemonLee: i wouldn't. what's the rush?
[17:46] <inavat> see:  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[17:46] <DaemonLee> sipior, just don't want to do a distro upgrade in two days. ;)
[17:46] <inavat> does not support "grow" for reiser4
[17:46] <sipior> DaemonLee: if there are any show-stoppers that get through the final bit of beta, why not let others find them, instead of your work machine?
[17:47] <DaemonLee> Well, it's basically my home laptop, that I carry around.
[17:47] <jbroome> inavat: doh:  http://www.nabble.com/Reiser4-resize-td15089206.html
[17:47] <sipior> DaemonLee: ah, that's a bit different than my usual conception of a production machine :-) i imagine it will be fine, then.
[17:47] <Monica> hello, how can I activate a textual login when I press ALT + CTRL + Fx ? Now there's just a white cursor without login promt............
[17:48] <DaemonLee> sipior,  Also, I hear the WiFi functionality has improved, also?
[17:48] <sipior> DaemonLee: probably so.
[17:48] <Muhammad_Saad> Someone please tell me an application which can help me in recovering damaged GZip file and is available in the Ubuntu repository.
[17:48] <inavat> jbroome: well let me ask you this.  Is it possible that reiser4 will be reported as "reiserfs" in apps like GParted?  Because it says it's reiserfs.. and yet it doesn't let me resize anything
[17:48] <DaemonLee> Sipior, mind if I query you?
[17:48] <dryrot> i just saw Hans !
[17:48] <sipior> DaemonLee: regarding what?
[17:48] <dryrot> dont you need a kernel patch for reiser4
[17:49] <DaemonLee> The WiFi issues, that I have currently.
[17:49] <sjovan> okay... i have noe ide on what i'm doing, but would this work? ---> http://pastebin.com/d69cbe9c <--- i'm just looking at another script and trying out stuff
[17:49] <inavat> maybe I have regular old reiserfs and I just did something wrong.  hmmm..
[17:49] <sipior> DaemonLee: best to direct your questions to the channel. i may be able to help, but it's been a while since i've dealt with wifi on ubuntu specifically.
[17:49] <hendrixski> Is there a way for me to install Apache in such a way that it does not start up when I start the computer?  Only when I call it?
[17:50] <DaemonLee> Heh. Okay. So, why does Ubuntu's WiFi not connect properly, until you type it in as a "hidden" network? Is that been fixed or what?
[17:50] <sipior> hendrixski: sure, look in /etc/rc2.d for a file with S<some number>apache. change the filename prefix from S to K.
[17:51] <sipior> DaemonLee: is your local access point hiding its essid?
[17:52] <hendrixski> sipior, so there isn't a way to install it as non-startup, I have to install it and change the boot stuff with black magic in the rc scripts?
[17:52] <sipior> hendrixski: not at install, no.
[17:53] <hendrixski> sipior, and the prefix is all I need to change?  wow, that's not as scary as I thought it would be
[17:53] <DaemonLee> Sipior, no. It's a Public WiFi point that's provided by the city.
[17:53] <Jadd76> How do I make a .tar.gz archive from a directory from a directory (not the current directory)
[17:53] <zbecker_> Jadd76: tar -czf ./tarfile.tar.gz /directory
[17:53] <zbecker_> I think
[17:53] <sipior> DaemonLee: they sometimes still don't broadcast the essid. for "security" purposes. still, the problem might be fixed in ubuntu+1, but i don't know one way or the other.
[17:54] <hendrixski> Jadd76, the tar command,  you can point it at other directories... I forget how, just see the man file,  type "man tar"
[17:54] <hendrixski> Jadd76, or just do it graphically, right-click on it nautilus and create archive :-)
[17:54] <zbecker_> Jadd76: Yeah that is right
[17:54] <DaemonLee> sipior, it's actually heavily broadcasted through the network....
[17:54] <DaemonLee> So, I dunno.
[17:54]  * sipior shrugs
[17:56] <urthmover> what happens in 2 days?
[17:56] <maxb> How do I turn off the sound that plays when gdm loads?
[17:56] <urthmover> there won't be a whole bunch of new package updates  will there?
[17:56] <sipior> maxb: have a look in gdmsetup. i hate that sound too...
[17:57] <Waffle> urthmover, in two days 8.04 is released
[17:58] <urthmover> Waffle:  yep...does that mean a bunch of new updates? thought
[17:58] <urthmover> though I meant
[17:58] <cabroux> hi everyone, I have an English question (sorry): would you say "an internship BY (company_name) or AT (company_name)?
[17:58] <nightglider28> Does anyone know much about the coolkey package? I need help installing my CAC reader.
[17:58] <sipior> cabroux: at
[17:58] <maxb> sipior: Thanks!
[17:58] <Pici> cabroux: AT, but please ask further questions in ##linguistics , not here.
[17:58] <urthmover> internship WITH a company
[17:58] <Waffle> urthmover, I don't think that it will affect your current build, i'm not too sure
[17:58] <hendrixski> sipior, alrighty, I changed the S91apache2 to K91Apache2,  that's all I need to do?
[17:58] <cabroux> thanks a lot! :)
[17:59] <sipior> hendrixski: should be.
[17:59] <hendrixski> cabroux, you inter *at* a company :-)
[17:59] <hendrixski> sipior, sweet.  Well thanks :-)
[17:59]  * hendrixski starts web-developing :-)
[18:01] <nightglider28> I followed the community documentation for installing a CAC reader, but ran into a problem when it said to import a .so file into Firefoxthat I don't have.
[18:04] <Jadd76> zbecker: thanks (sorry I got distracted)
[18:04] <dryrot> inavat: are you using reiser3 or reiser4?
[18:04] <Jadd76> zbecker_: that command creates a directory structure inside the .tar.gz, which I don't want
[18:05] <Ashfire> how do i resume a process after stoping it?
[18:05] <sipior> Ashfire: how did you stop the process?
[18:06] <Ashfire> sipior: i bumped the pause key when in an ssh connection
[18:06] <xx0xx> hey i having problem with proftpd.
[18:06] <xx0xx> can anyone help me with it?
[18:06] <sipior> Ashfire: you mean ctrl-S? try ctrl-Q.
[18:07] <Ashfire> sipior: nope
[18:07] <sipior> Ashfire: which pause key, then?
[18:07] <AzaTht> looking for a way to manage my huawei e220 better
[18:07] <Ashfire> sipior: the one that says "pause"
[18:07] <chops> sipior: Presumably the one that says "Pause" (in addition to "break") :-)
[18:08] <sipior> chops: i was referring to a control command, obviously.
[18:08] <lartza_> When compiling ffmpeg by some guide I get error: Unknown option "--enable-pp".
[18:08] <sipior> Ashfire: and pressing it again doesn't work?
[18:08] <Ashfire> sipior: nope
[18:09] <Pici> Ashfire: Is ssh still running?
[18:09] <Ashfire> pici: i'm in ssh...
[18:09] <Pici> Ashfire: Er, I mean whatever process you think is paused
[18:09] <Jake_> is there a program that allows me in ubuntu to accept an invitation via msn messenger to do remote assistance?
[18:09] <Ashfire> pici i had irssi running in screen and i bumped pause. i opened antother secrren started a second proccess of irssi and came here
[18:10] <Koheleth> anyone one up on scanners
[18:10] <Pici> Ashfire: I'm merely asking if your first irssi session is actually still running
[18:11] <Ashfire> Pici, it is.
[18:11] <Pici> Ashfire: Does `jobs` report anything?
[18:11] <alphabeta> well I asked in #java but the only response I got was "wrong channel" so here goes attempt #2:)
[18:11] <Ashfire> Pici yes the stoped process.
[18:12] <Pici> Ashfire: type fg
[18:12] <alphabeta> antlrworks, a java swing app, isnt rendering italic/bold fonts correctly. regular fonts work fine, and all of it worked fine on windows. any idea what could be going on?
[18:12] <XiMiE> hello
[18:12] <alphabeta> its as if its replacing all bold/italic fonts with a completely different ransomish font
[18:13] <Pici> alphabeta: Do you by chance have the msttcorefonts package installed
[18:13] <Pici> alphabeta: or have you tried installing it?
[18:13] <alphabeta> Pici: it's installed, unfortunately didn't help :/
[18:14] <alphabeta> makes a great app particularly hard to work with :/ even tried changing the font in the app preferences (to ones I know have bold/italic sets) and no luck
[18:15] <Pici> alphabeta: I'm not sure what to suggest, I havent had that problem personally.
[18:15] <Pici> alphabeta: You could try asking in ##linux as well, as it may not be just an Ubuntu issue
[18:15] <Ashfire_> ...screen locks up every terminal i try to attach to. i wasn't able to do fg
[18:16] <alphabeta> Pici: i'll give that a go. thanks for your time :)
[18:16] <strtok> good morning, has anyone gotten the proprietary ATI drivers to work with a Radeon HD 2400? My system goes black on boot and then reboots itself.
[18:16] <sipior> Ashfire_: might be simpler just disconnecting and reconnecting.
[18:16] <Ashfire_> i killed an old ssh process and now it's working
[18:16] <Ashfire_> i did fg and irssi came back
[18:17] <Rainarrow> Hello guys, my fglrx won't load, /var/log/Xorg.0.log says (WW) fglrx(0): could not detect X server version (query_status=-3) and refuse to load DRI
[18:17] <Rainarrow> any hints?
[18:17] <Rainarrow> the card is a ATi X300
[18:18] <Sandreas7354> hey there
[18:18] <tonyyarusso> Rainarrow: I have the same card - I've never succeeded in compositing / 3D.
[18:18] <Rainarrow> error message "DRI initialization failed!(maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)" follows
[18:19] <oemnissen> ola
[18:19] <Rainarrow> tonyyarusso, oh hell, great, but I think the wiki said it works?
[18:20] <tonyyarusso> Rainarrow: maybe, with lots of voodoo?  Try in #compiz-fusion perhaps?
[18:20] <Sandreas7354> i have a strange problem with my atheros chip... if i create a wlandev, its always counting up... so first it iss ath0, ath1 and its now up to ath11. i destroyed the devices with wlanconfig ath11 destroy but the count iss not resetted. can someone help me?
[18:20] <Rainarrow> tonyyarusso, actually I think this is a fglrx-related problem, that's why I'm asking here to see if anyone has experience on this
[18:20] <Rainarrow> tonyyarusso, I know there's nowhere to get support for fglrx
[18:21] <sipior> Sandreas7354: i'm kind of curious to see how high it gets!
[18:22] <Sandreas7354> sipior: *lol* well, its not my primary target to break the world record but if i do so i will inform you as the first one;)
[18:22] <sipior> Sandreas7354: appreciated!
[18:23] <Sandreas7354> sipior: you do not have an idea whats the reason for this?
[18:23] <sipior> Sandreas7354: i don't, i'm afraid.
[18:24] <sipior> Sandreas7354: i assume it gets reset on a reboot?
[18:24] <Sandreas7354> sipior: no thats the point
[18:24] <Sandreas7354> very interesting bug / feature?!;)
[18:24] <IamReck> !compiz
[18:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:24] <sipior> Sandreas7354: very bizarre, to be sure.
[18:26] <ed__> any one have a vostra laptop?
[18:28] <tomd123> does ubuntu still have bouties for features?
[18:28] <tomd123> *bounties
[18:29] <Pici> tomd123: Someone else asked that recently and when I looked for them I was unable to find the bounties page.
[18:30] <tomd123> Pici: Ya, I couldn't find it either. I guess there are no more bounties
[18:30] <HZ> hello all, crossover games does it really need to be bought? :(
[18:30] <xx0xx> DUDe. anyone gonna help me with proftpd?
[18:30] <Pici> HZ: Yes, it is a commerical product.
[18:31] <HZ> Pici: how r u ?
[18:31] <Pelo> Pici, do you know anything about gfxboot ?
[18:31] <HZ> Pici: but what if I need it so much and I can't buy it
[18:31] <Pici> HZ: Then you are out of luck.
[18:31] <Pici> Pelo: Nope, sorry.
[18:31] <kdub432> HZ: ... are you aware of how a free market economy works? :-D
[18:31] <HZ> Pici: :D
[18:31] <sipior> HZ: i'm going to guess "games" implies that need is a relative term, here.
[18:32] <nyn> hi, I'm looking for a command to monitor what a specific program does, I already tried 'watch', but that did not work out for me, is there anything else?
[18:32] <babo> has anyone ever used wink ?
[18:32] <sipior> nyn: what in particular do you want to monitor?
[18:32] <HZ> kdub432 no I really don't and sipior : I need it to install office 2007
[18:33] <ushimitsudoki> HZ: why don't you just try Wine? It works with a lot of stuff
[18:33] <sipior> nyn: strace is one option. if you just wan't to see which files it accesses, lsof could be useful.
[18:33] <sipior> not sure where that apostrophe came from.
[18:33] <nyn> sipior : I got this gui-error-msg from networkmanager that told me no more than "doesn't work", not I want t find out what NM does at that time to get closer to the problem
[18:34] <nyn> *now
[18:34] <sipior> nyn: have a go with strace, save the results to a file for later inspection. be warned, it will produce a copious amount of data...
[18:34] <Lamego> nyn, it would be more usefull to grep the source for that particular message :P
[18:34] <HZ> ushimitsudoki : that's what i'm doing but for 2007 office it needs also crossover games
[18:35] <Koksi> xD
[18:35] <Koksi> hi
[18:35] <Lamego> HZ, try #wine
[18:35] <Koksi> deutsche hierß
[18:35] <coolcubix> nyn: maybe you want to use command-line tools to manage your network ? it could be more verbose
[18:35] <Pici> !de | Koksi
[18:35] <Lamego> !de | Koksi
[18:35] <ubotu> Koksi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:35] <Koksi> !de | Koksi
[18:35]  * sipior wishes dTrace would get ported to linux
[18:35] <nyn> I've been looking ll over for information to get a more specific msg in the terminal but so far I've encountered no docu and the man page is not very helpful
[18:35] <xx0xx> !ftp
[18:35] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[18:35] <Koksi> #de
[18:35] <xx0xx> !FTPd
[18:35] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[18:35] <Pici> Koksi: /join #ubuntu-de
[18:35] <HZ> Lamego: It requires wine and crossover both together
[18:36] <Koksi> haha
[18:36] <Koksi> ich bin deutsch
[18:36] <Koksi> was wollt ihr machen
[18:36] <Koksi> ihr versteht mich noch net mal xD
[18:36] <Pici> Koksi: This channel is only english
[18:36] <FloodBot2> Koksi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <Pelo> !de | Koksi
[18:36] <ubotu> Koksi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:36] <sahak> hello
[18:36] <sahak> i am running Ubuntu 7.10 and want to upgrade to 8.04 now. What should I do?
[18:36] <Pici> sahak: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:36] <kdub432> sahak: apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:36] <sipior> sahak: wait two days? :-)
[18:37] <Pelo> sahak, wait 2 days for the official
[18:37] <HZ> Koksi : ich bin Egupten aber ich lebe deutschen leute :)
[18:37] <sahak> Pelo: I am afraid servers will be overloaded in 2 days. that's why i want to do it now
[18:37] <nyn> coolcubix : I'm trying to find out how to use the command line for NM, but so far I haven't found any helpful documentation
[18:37] <sipior> sahak: wait three days?
[18:37] <kdub432> sahak: i would do it now, its more or less the final product and server explosions will happen once the release hits...
[18:38] <Pelo> sahak, in two days you get the torrent for the alt cd and upgrade from cd, much quicker and safer
[18:38] <coolcubix> nyn: by networkmanager, you mean the graphical one in GNOME ?
[18:38] <Pelo> kdub432, I got about 20 upgrades today
[18:38] <sahak> do you think there will be any changes in these 2 days?
[18:38] <nyn> coolcubix : actually xfce, but yes, that one
[18:39] <Pelo> sahak, final push , personnaly I'm expecting loads of upates over the next two day to make sure everything is fixed
[18:39] <kdub432> Pelo: yeah, but upgrading now is better that having to get hundreds of updates when the servers are crawling along
[18:39] <cwillu> nyn, nm-applet or something like that I think
[18:39] <coolcubix> nyn: IMHO it would be really useful to manage it with command-line tools like ifconfig and the like :)
[18:39] <tomd123> pelo: i got like 100 mb worth of updates today
[18:39] <coolcubix> nyn: what is your specific network problem ?
[18:39] <cwillu> some day they'll have to get bittorrent working for apt
[18:39] <nyn> coolcubix : I've been trying to set up a VPN to connect to the net of my university
[18:40] <nyn> coolcubix : and since the error message is not exactly verbose I cannot tell what the problem is, thats what I am trying to find out
[18:40] <coolcubix> nyn: and what is the action that triggers an error message ?
[18:41] <Pelo> tomd123, that's what I'm saying
[18:41] <nyn> coolcubix : when I press the button to connect to the university network, NM tells me: "VPN Connection failed"
[18:42] <nyn> but it doenst say why -.-
[18:43] <coolcubix> nyn: if you know the remote address and port, you could try   telnet <remoteip> <port>   and see if it gets connected, or if it stays stalled
[18:44] <sipior> nyn: and if you run NetworkManager from the command line?
[18:44] <nyn> I do have the IP, how do I find out about the port?
[18:45] <coolcubix> nyn: don't know, maybe in your university's technical references (along with the IP), or if it is a well-known VPN protocol, look for the default port for this protocol
[18:45] <nyn> when I run nm-tool (thats the applet under xfce if I interpret the man page correctly) it tells me lots of things like connected devices and whethr they are in use and stuff, but nothing about my vpn
[18:46] <nyn> the university only provides the vpn server ip and the information that its pptp (I guess that was it, I mean the one made by microsoft)
[18:50] <Dgro> Hi
[18:50] <mikeg3> Hi  -- is there an Ubuntu that's macbook pro compatible?
[18:50] <nyn> just looked it up again, definitely PPTP
[18:51] <Dgro> I'm gonna sign my name to a true confession...I haven't figured out plugins and downloads yet
[18:51] <T-Hawk> hey guys... trying to set up Ubuntu Server for the first time... i can't seem to find how to set the FQDN of my box... any pointers?
[18:51] <tonyyarusso> mikeg3: The normal 64-bit version should work just fine afaik.
[18:51] <tonyyarusso> T-Hawk: 'hostname', which I think writes to /etc/hostname, iirc
[18:52] <sipior> T-Hawk: normally only the hostname will be something you have control over. do you have your own domain?
[18:52] <T-Hawk> tonyyarusso, doh, hadn't seen that it writes it too *slaps himself*
[18:52] <T-Hawk> sipior, yes, i do
[18:53] <imath> hello
[18:53] <aubade> Is there a equivalent to k9copy for GNOME/GTK?
[18:53] <sipior> T-Hawk: make sure /etc/hostname contains the correct hostname, and then ensure that both of your authoritative servers resolve that name to the appropriate ip address.
[18:53] <eax> Hello :) Does anyone know a good command-line mailreader?
[18:54] <sipior> eax: i like mutt. some people like pine or elm.
[18:54] <eax> sipior: Thanks :)
[18:54] <T-Hawk> sipior, should /etc/hostname contain the FQDN?
[18:54] <sipior> T-Hawk: generally no
[18:55] <T-Hawk> sipior, then that isn't the issue... the issue is setting the dnsdomainname
[18:55] <coolcubix> nyn: according to wikipedia, pptp uses ports 47 for the GRE protocol itself and 1723 to control GRE
[18:56] <DarkOdos> eeeeeh im here again
[18:56] <DarkOdos> hey
[18:56] <Flare183> Me too
[18:56] <sipior> T-Hawk: the domainname is set by configuring the authoritative name servers properly.
[18:56] <DarkOdos> hahaha
[18:56] <DarkOdos> hey i dont know
[18:56] <DarkOdos> but
[18:56] <DarkOdos> i have problems with my ubuntu 6.06 libraries
[18:57] <Flare183> !enter | DarkOdos
[18:57] <ubotu> DarkOdos: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:57] <T-Hawk> sipior, and if i'm not running a local NS?
[18:57] <DarkOdos> sorry for that
[18:57] <Flare183> np
[18:57] <sipior> T-Hawk: you must have a name server which is authoritative for your domain name. else no one will be able to resolve the address of your machine
[18:58] <DarkOdos> mmmmm im trying to install Nmap on my ubuntu and nothing happens
[18:58] <Dgro> BB
[18:58] <Pici> DarkOdos: How are you trying?
[18:58] <sipior> T-Hawk: often this won't be a local nameserver, but something your registrar provides.
[18:58] <T-Hawk> sipior, well then i have... but the local ip of the server isn't the same as the external ip... it's through a couple of routers?
[18:58] <psycardis> Is there a known issue between 2.6.24-16 and wine?
[18:59] <DarkOdos> it tells me that i need an acceptable C compiler but when i try to install the C compiler it tells that the dependencies are not suitable
[18:59] <Pici> DarkOdos: Why not install nmap from the repositories?
[18:59] <DarkOdos> mmmmm??
[18:59] <T-Hawk> sipior, pm?
[18:59] <DarkOdos> is itwell man
[18:59] <Pici> DarkOdos: What?
[19:00] <uberpsyx> hey guys, just installed the hardy beta and 90% of programs i try and run dont load and i get a program crash thing in the system tray and firefox wont load any page other that the router setup even though pidgin works fine. Any ideas?
[19:00] <sipior> T-Hawk: i'm afraid i have to catch a train in about five minutes, apologies.
[19:00] <Pici> uberpsyx: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:00] <Flare183> !hardy | uberpsyx
[19:00] <ubotu> uberpsyx: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[19:00] <uberpsyx> pici, sorry
[19:00] <T-Hawk> okay... anybody else here able to help me?
[19:00] <DB42> should both APM and ACPI daemons be running at the same time on my laptop ?
[19:00] <DarkOdos> mmmmm when i go to the repositories i cant find Nmap
[19:00] <Pici> DarkOdos: what version of Ubuntu?
[19:00] <DarkOdos> 6.06
[19:01] <Pici> !info nmap dapper
[19:01] <ubotu> nmap (source: nmap): The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB
[19:01] <DarkOdos> mmmm
[19:01] <DarkOdos> ok
[19:01] <Pici> DarkOdos: It definitly should be in there, seeing as how its in the main repo
[19:02] <DarkOdos> but when i try to install it it is asking me for an acceptable C compiler whick extrangelly already installed
[19:02] <T-Hawk> hehe got it :)
[19:02] <DB42> can anybody check in X in system->administration->services if both APM and ACPI are running ???
[19:02] <T-Hawk> order of domains in /etc/hosts matters :P
[19:02] <sjovan> i still need help with my screenshot script :) http://pastebin.com/d69cbe9c
[19:03] <Zeker> Good morning, gentlemen. I have a hard drive clear of any operating systems, and I need to mount a usb cdrom using the system rescue (live disc). I am a linux novice, can anybody please offer some assistance?
[19:03] <Pici> sjovan: Have you tried asking in #bash ?
[19:03] <_spas_> !awn
[19:03] <ubotu> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy
[19:03] <kdub432> sjovan: you may get better responses in #bash or #mplayer
[19:03] <sjovan> Pici: a really good ide. thanx
[19:04] <DarkOdos> mmm i think i will have to update my ubuntu to 7.10
[19:04] <DarkOdos> but i dont have internet
[19:05] <DarkOdos> lol
[19:05] <Andycass1> I cant get my wifi to work, i put in all the info it needs but then it just sits there. And also it keeps reverting back to some stupid 10.1.xx.xx DNS address, while i put 192.168.1.254 in there.
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkOdos, Are you on 7.04 now?
[19:05] <Pici> DarkOdos: If you dont have the internet, you can't install packages using apt-get unless you have the cdrom in and enabled as a source.
[19:05] <nyn> coolcubix : I tried with the port 1723 and  for a brief time it was connected, but then: Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. - what do I do now?
[19:06] <DB42> Pici: hi, can you help me out ?
[19:06] <Pici> DB42: Perhaps, whats up?
[19:06] <AlabamaHit> how do i get root access in terminal
[19:06] <DarkOdos> nope im using ubuntu dapper
[19:06] <Zeker> can someone help me mount a usb cdrom drive?
[19:06] <DB42> Pici: can you check in X in system->administration->services if both APM and ACPI are running
[19:07] <DarkOdos> in reallity i like linux like systems
[19:07] <Flare183> AlabamaHit: use sudo or su
[19:07] <DarkOdos> i love using the console
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> AlabamaHit, sudo
[19:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi how can i find out my graphic crad model? I wish to check if it is compatible with compiz fusion...
[19:07] <Pici> DB42: I dont have X installed here.
[19:07] <DB42> ahh, k
[19:07] <AlabamaHit> i tried that but wont work
[19:08] <AlabamaHit> im trying to grant access to mysql database
[19:08] <DarkOdos> i will try to update my ubuntu from a CD
[19:08] <AlabamaHit> ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'thuglife'@'localhost' to database 'menagerie'
[19:08] <AlabamaHit> thats the error i keep getting from it.
[19:08] <PedanticSteve> DB42: they are both running on my machine.. I have never messed with them so it is default
[19:08] <DarkOdos> maybe Nmap and other things i have will work better there
[19:08] <johan__> !se
[19:08] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:09] <amidaniel> Baby_Shambl3s: lspci ?
[19:09] <DB42> PedanticSteve: k, tnx
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkOdos, Are you on 7.04 now? Please note.. you need to update version by version if not
[19:09] <DarkOdos> no im using ubuntu 6
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[19:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:10] <DarkOdos> yes
[19:10] <DarkOdos> i will do it
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkOdos, you cant go from 6 to 7.10
[19:10] <DarkOdos> no?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[19:10] <Andycass1> How to debug whats wrong with my wifi settings? I cant seem to ping anything in my wlan....
[19:10] <Andycass1> Everything is seemengly right
[19:11] <coolcubix> Andycass1: did you disable any other interfaces ? are you sure everything is routed correctly ? (command :  route  without args)
[19:12] <lordnikon> anone awake?
[19:12] <DarkOdos> can you please provide me with the answer link??
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[19:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> amidaniel: isnt there anotherway to check actual name and model of onboard graphics card?
[19:12] <PedanticSteve> is there some sort of Ubuntu networking troubleshooting guide?  listing the best commands to show the network details and the files to edit to modify the settings?
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[19:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:13] <DarkOdos> i know how tyring can be helping people
[19:13] <DarkOdos> im a technical support for earthlink
[19:13] <DarkOdos> hehe
[19:13] <amidaniel> Baby_Shambl3s: Checking the specs for your pc would be the easiest way :)
[19:13] <Andycass1> coolcubix: Yes, i am quite sure everything is done right. I just want to use static IP so i can forward ports and get it recognized by my other PCs
[19:14] <amidaniel> Baby_Shambl3s: Failing that, lspci will give you enough information to determine if the GPU is compatible. And failing that, pop her open and read he label off the chip :)
[19:14] <lordnikon> anyone awake in here?
[19:14] <gen> hoaa
[19:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> amidaniel: sadly onboard graphics card isnt listed on the freaking manual which is upseting *stupid SiS board* :/
[19:14] <Andycass1> coolcubix: It is so simple and straightforward in windows, takes me 30sec to get inside my wlan, with this im spending 30 min
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> amidaniel, if you already install ubuntu, look in etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what ubuntu identified
[19:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> lordnikon: ask your question
[19:15] <amidaniel> Jack_Sparrow: True, that'll work too
[19:15] <DarkOdos> ok guys
[19:15] <DarkOdos> can somebody trell me what is the necesary libraryfor GCC?
[19:15] <lordnikon> hey i need some help
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Andycass1, I will guarantee the first time you went to set it up in windows it took you more than 3 minutes.. It is just different and there are new things to learn, and there are benefits for doing so
[19:15] <amidaniel> lordnikon: Speak
[19:16] <Waffle> lordnikon, just ask the question
[19:16] <lordnikon> amidaniel may i pm you?
[19:16] <amidaniel> I'd rather you didn't
[19:16] <lordnikon> i want to know if it is possible to install ubuntu while booted to a live cd?
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, Better for all to ask in this channel...
[19:16] <Baby_Shambl3s> amidaniel: yeah true, maybe a stupid question for someone that knows it but for me it aint... is the graphics card directly linked to the monitor port so if I found the model of my monitor card would that be the graphics card?
[19:16] <lordnikon> i have both a live disk and an anstiall disk but for some reason the install disk fails
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, you should see an install icon on your desktop
[19:17] <lordnikon> nope all i see is a cdrom button on my desktop :)
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Baby_Shambl3s, there is no monitor card..
[19:18] <Pici> lordnikon: What version of Ubuntu?
[19:18] <Waffle> Baby_Shambl3s, the graphics card is what your monitor plugs into
[19:18] <lordnikon> um its 5.04
[19:18] <DarkOdos> does anyone here use earthlink??
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[19:18] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[19:18] <Baby_Shambl3s> Waffle: you figured out what i meant to say and Jack_Sparrow thanx for clearing that
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:19] <coolcubix> Andycass1: dumb question, but, have you gotten an IP address with your interface ?
[19:19] <lordnikon> Pici its 5.04
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, not a good idea to install that
[19:19] <Andycass1> coolcubix: I said i set up static address, so yes :)
[19:19] <PaulMooney> how do I find out what network device driver I'm using?
[19:19] <lordnikon> well i need to install it cause its all i got lol
[19:19] <Baby_Shambl3s> now would 662/761Gx as detected by ubuntu be compatible with compiz/beryl, if not what else could i use?
[19:19] <Pici> lordnikon: First of all, 5.04 is no longer supported, secondly, I think that version had separate Live and Install CDs
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, Install disks are easy to come by.  free for the asking
[19:20] <Pici> !shipit | lordnikon
[19:20] <lordnikon> Pici yes it does but its all i got so.....lol
[19:20] <ubotu> lordnikon: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[19:20] <coolcubix> Andycass1: last time i got this problem, it was because i wanted static address too : so i didn't go by the ifup/ifdown scripts, i did it by hand ; the problem came only from my route table
[19:20] <PaulMooney> how do I find out what network device driver I'm using?
[19:21] <Waffle> lordnikon, if you can download and burn a disc then you could also get 7.10 from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[19:21] <lordnikon> Maffle if its over 32mb i cant dl it lol "DIALUP"
[19:21] <Waffle> lordnikon, ouch
[19:21] <lordnikon> Maffle you got that right
[19:21] <Flannel> lordnikon: Check out your LoCo team, they can probably get you a disc a lot sooner than ShipIt
[19:21] <Baby_Shambl3s> I meant a SiS  661/741/760 PCI/VGA card be compatible with compiz/beryl if not what other options are available to me "excl. buying new card"
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, Installing 5.04 is NOT advised.. find someone with high speed or order a free disk..
[19:22] <aoupi> how do I do a reverse DNS lookup (ip number to domain name) from the terminal?
[19:22] <lordnikon> the only place i know where there is a high speed connecton is my library and they wont let you dl anything lol
[19:22] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: all he's got is the LiveCD, he can't install.
[19:23] <Flannel> lordnikon: Get in touch with your LoCo team, see what they can do for you.
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, he has 5.04 live which did not have built in install
[19:23] <PaulMooney> aoupi, you can most likely use dig to do it
[19:23] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: that's correct.
[19:23] <spmccann> aoupi ping -a
[19:23] <PaulMooney> aoupi: man dig to get the exact option for it
[19:23] <user0423> ﻿ i did all the kde icons for the gnome menus... is there some way i can save the menu file so i dont have to ever do it again? or maybe i could send it to somebody... it took like 3 hours
[19:23] <aoupi> PaulMooney: ok, thanks
[19:23] <lordnikon> Flannel no i have both the live and the install cd's for 5.04 but for some reason the install fails every time
[19:24] <PaulMooney> how do I find out what network device driver I'm using?
[19:24] <psycardis> ﻿does anybody see anything wrong with this command? wine /home/"username"/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/Wow.exe
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lordnikon, What hardware are you working with
[19:24] <Fishscen2> IRC Question: How do I view a list of all the channels?
[19:24] <Flannel> lordnikon: That was a long time ago, it doesn't surprise.  You're in the US, right?  What state?
[19:24] <aoupi> spmccann: that shows the ip number, I want the opposite, besides 'host' is better if you just want the ip ;)
[19:24] <lordnikon> Flannel that was my original question was there any way to control the installation while i was booted into the live cd lol
[19:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> I meant a SiS  661/741/760 PCI/VGA card be compatible with compiz/beryl if not what other options are available to me "excl. buying new card"
[19:24] <Pici> psycardis: Remove the quotes from around the username
[19:24] <Fawzib> are there any debian/ubuntu repositories with a dovecot 1.0 with managesieve? I have googled and all I found was the 1.1RC version.
[19:24] <Thezanke`> psycardis, "World\ of\ Warcraft"
[19:24] <lordnikon> Flannel im in mississippi
[19:24] <lupetto> irc.velocityirc.net
[19:24] <PaulMooney> I just did  sudo modprobe ipw3945 and it didn't find the driver.  I know that's the card I'm using though
[19:24] <lupetto> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/overflow
[19:25] <psycardis> pici: those were for example
[19:25] <PaulMooney> is it because I'm using the standard driver that comes with hardy that it didn't find it by that name?
[19:25] <lordnikon> brb
[19:25] <psycardis> thezanke: you have to use the \ to be able to use spaces in the directories
[19:25] <Flannel> lordnikon: Check out #ubuntu-us-mi, that's Mississippi's LoCo team, they can probably get you a CD right quick
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !Hardy > PaulMooney
[19:26] <PaulMooney> Jack_Sparrow: I know what hardy is....
[19:27] <PaulMooney> how do I find out what network device driver I'm using?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulMooney, Good, then you know you are asking for help in the wrong room
[19:27] <PaulMooney> I want to be able to reload it by name after I use this test driver...
[19:27] <Waffle> PaulMooney, if you are running hardy you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:27] <PaulMooney> jack, it's not OS related
[19:27] <Ademan> !hardy
[19:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[19:27] <Ademan> so.far.away.
[19:28] <Andycass1> Well i cant get my wifi working with a manual configuration, im using network manager
[19:28] <lente> why is it possible to run startx xterm -e mplayer /path and not startx mplayer /path
[19:28] <PaulMooney> Jack_Sparrow: Waffle, it has nothing to do with hardy.  it's a typically linux command.  i don't know what it is though
[19:28] <Invisionfree> Can someone help me dualboot with my laptop? My Laptop is an Acer Aspire 3690, other monitor is a Gateway EV700, and I'm running 7.10.. How can I make it work so it extends my desktop?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> PaulMooney, Please join the channel for the release you are running
[19:28] <Baby_Shambl3s> Is my  SiS  661/741/760 PCI/VGA card compatible with compiz/beryl if not what other options are available to me "excl. buying new card"?
[19:28] <bluechaos1986> Hello, does anyone know how to work compiz with dual screens?
[19:28] <PaulMooney> I just wanna know how do I find out what network device driver I'm using.  It'd be the same command if I was on Edgy
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bluechaos1986, /join #Compiz
[19:29] <coolcubix> PaulMooney: actually, modules are not always at the same places in every distribution
[19:29] <i12laroa> hola
[19:29] <Invisionfree> !hardy | PaulMooney
[19:29] <ubotu> PaulMooney: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[19:29] <Invisionfree> Now GO.
[19:29] <Koheleth> try ifconfig
[19:29] <PaulMooney> coolcubix: I don't wanna know the location...
[19:29] <bluechaos1986> okay, thanks
[19:29] <PaulMooney> it has to do with modprobe
[19:29] <Invisionfree> Can someone help me dualboot with my laptop? My Laptop is an Acer Aspire 3690, other monitor is a Gateway EV700, and I'm running 7.10.. How can I make it work so it extends my desktop?
[19:29] <Pici> PaulMooney: lsmod, further questions in #ubuntu+1
[19:30] <PaulMooney> Pici: that's a start.  thanks
[19:30] <coolcubix> PaulMooney: look, i have already used modules in a one distro that weren't there in another distro
[19:30] <Invisionfree> Pici, mind answering mine? :c
[19:30] <PaulMooney> coolcubix: I'm not wondering if the driver is here or not.  i know it is, because I'm using it
[19:31] <PaulMooney> batt dead
[19:31] <HelloWorld10> hi, what is the exact command that i use remastersys to make an ISO on other drive other than /home/remastersys?
[19:31] <PaulMooney> brb
[19:31] <Koheleth> does ubuntu have a equiv to the siga command in SuSE
[19:31] <Pici> Invisionfree: I really don't know about dual monitors, sorry.
[19:31] <coolcubix> "I just did sudo modprobe ipw3945 and it didn't find the driver"
[19:31] <PedanticSteve> hi all, I am trying to troubleshoot my networking issue and looking at the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86389 and the command mentioned (ethtool -s eth0) does not produce any ouput for me.  anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[19:31] <Pici> Koheleth: What does siga do in suse?
[19:31] <Invisionfree> Pici: Any idea who would?
[19:31] <Koheleth> system info gathering
[19:31] <Koheleth> gets everything about your pc
[19:31] <Pici> Koheleth: Perhaps sudo lshw ?
[19:31] <coolcubix> i though it were a problem of location if it doesn't "find" it
[19:32] <Pici> PaulMooney: The ipw driver was replaced in Hardy.
[19:32] <psycardis> ﻿does anybody see anything wrong with this command? wine /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/Wow.exe  for use as a launcher?
[19:32] <PedanticSteve> nevermind... I was using a lowercase "s" instead of "S"
[19:32] <lordnikon> Flannel that room you gave me #ubuntu-us-mi was for michigan not mississippi :P
[19:32] <gtT> hey. can anyone tell me, what are kernel headers? and how to install them?
[19:32] <Invisionfree> Pici: The forums and google aren't helping, because I have an Intel driver.
[19:33] <Koheleth> yeah its a bit like that
[19:33] <Pici> psycardis: Launchers need to only have one argument, so you'd need to put that in a script and have the launcher run the script.
[19:33] <coolcubix> gtT: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> grt they can be installed with apt-get.. you need to get the ones for your specific kernel
[19:33] <coolcubix> it should be the command you're looking for, to continue in a compilation or in a howto :)
[19:33] <HelloWorld10> anyone could help on my question?
[19:33] <Invisionfree> coolcubix: Or sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[19:33] <psycardis> Since when? this is what I used to use in gutsy as a launcher.
[19:33] <coolcubix> Invisionfree: yes, which is exactly the same
[19:34] <thatGuy_> I'm back.  this is PaulMooney
[19:34] <thatGuy_> Koheleth: you got an answer already?  What does siga do?
[19:34] <lente> why is it possible to run startx /usr/bin/xterm -e /usr/bin/mplayer /path and not startx /usr/bin/mplayer /path
[19:34] <Koheleth> mooney do this
[19:34] <Koheleth>  sudo lshw
[19:34] <Koheleth> in a shell
[19:35] <Koheleth> then look through it
[19:35] <thatGuy_> Koheleth: I'll try that too
[19:35] <HelloWorld10> is this command "sudo remastersys dist /dev/sda8" correct if i wanna make an ISO file on /dev/sda8 using remastersys?
[19:35] <Waffle> lordnikon, you could order a disk from amazon at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_sw/104-6109640-8742337?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dsoftware&field-keywords=ubuntu+7.10&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go
[19:35] <Flare183> !enter | Koheleth
[19:35] <ubotu> Koheleth: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:35] <Flannel> lordnikon: Oh, sorry.  #ubuntu-us-ms is mississippi.
[19:36] <jsaacmk> I'm getting an error with pulseaudio, when I run the command from the command line. It tells me it can't find my PCM device, which I named pulseaudio in my /etc/asound.conf     in my default.pa, I have something like    load-module module-alsa-sink device=pluseaudio sink_name=alsa_surround
[19:36] <hwilde> on boot it says   * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.loca)   [fail]                    how can I find out why?
[19:37] <lordnikon> hey Flannel went in and i was the only one there lol
[19:37] <coolcubix> jsaacmk: don't know if it could help, but you wrote "device=pLUseaudio"
[19:37] <daekdroom> o.o
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jsaacmk, ISnt that HArdy you are using
[19:37] <lordnikon> Wafle is amazon giving the disk away
[19:37] <Waffle> lordnikon, no, it is $12 for a new disk but they have used for a penny
[19:38] <Invisionfree> Can someone help me dualboot with my laptop? My Laptop is an Acer Aspire 3690, other monitor is a Gateway EV700, and I'm running 7.10.. How can I make it work so it extends my desktop?
[19:38] <eax> Can anyone help me setup Alpine please?
[19:38] <Waffle> lordnikon, a penny + $3.99 shipping, so $4.00 total
[19:38] <jsaacmk> I'm using the 8.04 beta, I din't know the actual name of it.   and it's spelled correctly in both files
[19:38] <Flannel> lordnikon: Interesting, that should be a redirect until they move there.  Apparently the channel is #ubuntu-mississippi
[19:38]  * HelloWorld10 :< nobody is helpful on the remastersys question
[19:38] <coolcubix> Invisionfree: what do you mean by "dual boot" ?
[19:39] <reppel> Hi, I'm searching for the specification about smoothing the transition between the framebuffer and gdm/X. Do you know how it is called?
[19:39] <lordnikon> Flannel nope noone there either :P
[19:39] <Invisionfree> coolcubix: Er, dual screen :P
[19:39] <HelloWorld10> nobody ever use remastersys before?
[19:39] <thatGuy_> Guys, I found it.  it was listed in lsmod.  I had forgot about that command
[19:39] <coolcubix> Invisionfree: ok ^^ sorry, never did it on a laptop before
[19:39] <thatGuy_> That was the answer to my question.  And it had nothing to do with Hardy :-)
[19:39] <jhoc2x> hi to all.. ^_^
[19:39] <Koheleth> well, what is it
[19:39] <thatGuy_> Pici: Thanks very much!
[19:40] <Invisionfree> coolcubix: How did you do it on a desktop? I'll pastebin my xorg.conf if you need me too
[19:40] <Flannel> lordnikon: well, that is the proper channel.  Come to #ubuntu-us, and we'll see what we can do for you
[19:40] <jhoc2x> anyone here play WoW???
[19:40] <eax> Can anyone help me setup Alpine please?
[19:40] <thatGuy_> Koheleth: I found it using lsmod
[19:40] <Koheleth> what does it say
[19:40] <jhoc2x> !eyecandy
[19:40] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:40] <thatGuy_> iwl3945               100468
[19:41] <thatGuy_> slightly different than what I thought it was.  I thought it was ipw3945
[19:41] <Matias> isn't there a way to customize Ubuntu installation from LiveCD, only 'install' everything by default?
[19:41] <Invisionfree> coolcubix?
[19:42] <jhoc2x> anyone here played WOW>
[19:42] <jhoc2x> ?
[19:43] <Koheleth> what is it
[19:43] <jhoc2x> !wine
[19:43] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:43] <jhoc2x> World of Warcraft
[19:43] <Koheleth> half way through s.t.a.l.k.e.r. at the moment
[19:43] <undecim> jhoc2x: There is a path for WINE to play WoW
[19:43] <alch3mist> hello FloodBot2 !
[19:43] <Invisionfree> WOW = Work of Wetodds.
[19:43] <PedanticSteve> jhoc2x: I did a couple of years ago but stopped when I wanted my life back
[19:43] <jhoc2x> undecim: how?
[19:43] <Pici> Invisionfree: Be nice.
[19:43] <undecim> jhoc2x: I mean a patch, not path
[19:43] <Invisionfree> Pici: I was only insulting a game :(
[19:44] <jsaacmk> is there any command to force my kernel or whoever is responsible to reload my asound.conf?
[19:44] <jhoc2x> PedanticSteve: lol .... howcome dude?
[19:44] <coopster> I'm running Gutsy Gibbons on a toshiba portege m400, and I'm getting this error ' APIC error on CPU1: 40(40)' flooding my dmesg.  I've googled and seen many references to the problem, but no solutions.  Can anyone help me out?
[19:44] <alch3mist> WOW = Word of Wonders
[19:44] <joan_> what need I to do i order to get icons in the Desktop in Hardy?
[19:44] <Pici> joan_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:44] <Koheleth> savage is free for linux, thats not bad
[19:44] <brightwebworks> I installed Ubuntu Server but it didn't ask me to set a root password then after it rebooted correctly I got a prompt which I was abled to log in using my account. How do I log in under root?
[19:44] <jhoc2x> undecim: where to patch in?
[19:44] <coopster> brightwebworks: ubuntu does not use root for a login.  use your account that you created and use sudo
[19:45] <undecim> jhoc2x: I found it once, but never got around to actually installing it... Im searching for it right now
[19:45] <max> selam millet
[19:45] <PedanticSteve> jhoc2x: lets just say I dont do " moderation"... but if you want to install it in WINE with less hassle you can get crossover office and it will be super easy (but you need to fork out 39 bucks).  or you can do it in wine without crossover there are plenty of people who have done that
[19:45] <jsaacmk> brightwebworks: if you really want to log in as root, just sudo su   then  passwd, to change your root password
[19:45] <brightwebworks> coopster: You mean sudo -i and then enter my password for my account?
[19:45] <DJones> !root | brightwebworks
[19:45] <ubotu> brightwebworks: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:45] <Koheleth> joan: drag some icons from the menu to the desktop
[19:45] <alch3mist> MMORG only wastes your time and life... what happens if you reach level 99 or 999 then what? it's better to play normal games because normal games has stories and ends with a stories...
[19:45] <brightwebworks> cool
[19:45] <coopster> brightwebworks: right, or do what jsaacmk said if you _really_ want to log in as root.  This is not recommeneded for security reasons
[19:46] <jhoc2x> PedanticSteve: well, sorry i dont have 39 bucks to spare.. %_% i thought everything is free.. ^_^
[19:46] <undecim> jhoc2x: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/62932-howto-installing-world-warcraft-wine.html
[19:46] <brightwebworks> coopster: No need to log in as root. The sudo is just fine. I had been away from linux for more than 2 years and some changed with the coming of Ubuntu.
[19:46] <brightwebworks> But thanks
[19:46] <coopster> np
[19:46] <undecim> jhoc2x: for that though, you will need to install the build-essentials package
[19:47] <psycardis> jhoc2x: I run WoW on ubuntu what do you need?
[19:47] <Koheleth> jhoc2x: try Savage, its a great game
[19:47] <jhoc2x> undecim: looking at it now..
[19:47] <alch3mist> is there  a guid for uncomplicated firewall?
[19:47] <alch3mist> *gui
[19:47] <jhoc2x> Koheleth: ok.. i'll try that..
[19:47] <Pici> alch3mist: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> alch3mist, Most do not need anything more than the default iptable to control the ports
[19:48] <PedanticSteve> jhoc2x:whoever told you "everything" was free was misleading you.. but a lot of stuff in Linux is free.  and WINE is free.  Crossover is just an easier way of using WINE but it is not free.  as far as I know anything you can install in crossover you can install without it (just may require quite a bit of tweaking)
[19:48] <jhoc2x> psycardis: how to install via CD ??
[19:48] <eax> Can anyone help me setup Alpine please?
[19:48] <jhoc2x> PedanticSteve: tnx for the info bro..!! ^_^
[19:48] <undecim> psycardis: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/62932-howto-installing-world-warcraft-wine.html but you will need the build essentials package for compiling the patched WINE
[19:49] <Koheleth> http://www.s2games.com/savage/
[19:49] <proq> li
[19:49] <psycardis> you need to install wine, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[19:50] <jhoc2x> i did install wine.. just recently...
[19:50] <jhoc2x> my problem is how to install my program.. i.e World of Warcraft via 6 CDs
[19:50] <Joker_-_> Hey there. If I install Ubuntu RC8.04, can I then easyly upgrade to the "stable" version once it's out (without re-installing)
[19:50] <kane77> how does update-alternatives work? I want to reconfigure java to be sun's java instead of openjdk.. at the output I see there is star next to sun's java and + next to openjdk.. what does the + mean?
[19:50] <DJones> !final | Joker_-_
[19:50] <ubotu> Joker_-_: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[19:50] <Quicksilva> http://www.youmonde.org/1205447368450.gif
[19:51] <maw> is there documentation on how to upgrade 7.10 > 8.04?
[19:51] <Joker_-_> DJones: thx.
[19:51] <rwycuff> KohelethL savage looks awsome that completly free game
[19:51] <daekdroom> maw: that's on #ubuntu+1
[19:51] <Koheleth> the first one is
[19:51] <maw> daekdroom: nothing on the website?
[19:51] <Pici> !offtopic | Quicksilva
[19:51] <ubotu> Quicksilva: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:51] <Koheleth> http://www.s2games.com/savage/downloads.php
[19:51] <daekdroom> maw: There's something on the wiki
[19:51] <Quicksilva> sry :p
[19:51] <thebishop> hello
[19:52] <psycardis> jhoc2x: do you have a windows machine? I just copied my directory from windows.
[19:52] <HelloWorld1> well, i should ask how to make an existing ubuntu system to be a live dvd?
[19:52] <daekdroom> maw: but basically all you've to do is sudo update-manager -c -d after doing a upgrade of the system.
[19:52] <Koheleth> the battle for newerth is free
[19:52] <thebishop> are there going to be any changes between RC and the official hardy release?
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> HelloWorld1, it involves remastering and is not as easy as one would hope
[19:52] <jhoc2x> psycardis: yes i do.. but it's in the other disk... should i copy it to wine directory?
[19:53] <maw> daekdroom: I see, I wanted to read about the process first. I am sure major upgrades are documented somewhere
[19:53] <HelloWorld1> Jack_Sparrow, oh, how do you think about this web description?
[19:53] <HelloWorld1> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[19:53] <ivze> Good day! how to apply changed SELinux policy without rebooting. I've read some manuals, but they do not work on Hardy Heron(there is no make file)? =)
[19:53] <rutter> hi, is this the right channel to be asking for help with 8.04, or do I need to go a development channel?
[19:53] <Koheleth> I dont think Savage likes ati cards tho
[19:53] <daekdroom> maw: Sure they are. From which version are you upgrading?
[19:53] <rwycuff> i hate ati cards
[19:54] <kane77> rutter, next two days use #ubuntu+1
[19:54] <maw> I have 7.10 and I want to review the correct steps to upgrade to 8.04 when it is released ina few days
[19:54] <rutter> ok
[19:54] <rutter> thanks
[19:54] <psycardis> It will be alot easier imho to just copy your world of warcraft folder to /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[19:54] <jhoc2x> undecim: the link is working but the link to the patches are broken.. ^_^
[19:54] <daekdroom> maw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/RC#head-4306fd9bb7a7fb0f5279fcd419787f074c6a4ae8
[19:54] <Andycass1> How to get my wifi working, im using wpa2 - my wifi nic is bcm43xx with restricted drivers enabled....
[19:55] <daekdroom> maw: But then the "steps" will change when 8.04 is released.
[19:55] <maw> daekdroom: thanks, I need to lrn2search I guess... I couldnt find that :P
[19:55] <Koheleth> I have a new ati hd2400 pro
[19:55] <maw> daekdroom: ok I will check back later
[19:55] <Koheleth> igb of mem apparently but 256 dedicated?
[19:55] <MrBill> I'm having some trouble with one of my logins. Late last week I changed the GID and UID on it to coordinate it with another linux box on my network, now I'm unable to login as user "alana" on my Ubunut 7.10 system. If I look at the .xsessions-errors in her directory I see the following (http://www.pastebin.ca/993581). When I go to /tmp and take a look, i dont' even see a gconfd-alana file, so it seems that it has been somehow deleted completely.
[19:55] <MrBill> Does anyone have any advice on how to approach this?
[19:55] <psycardis> jhoc2x: ﻿It will be alot easier imho to just copy your world of warcraft folder to /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[19:56] <jhoc2x> psycardis: kk.. got you.. i'll do that.. ^_^  tnx
[19:56] <Koheleth> http://www.s2games.com/savage/screenshots/bh_act/index.php nice screenies there
[19:57] <psycardis> jhoc2x: if you need more help, hit me up on aim or yahoo david23267
[19:57] <Koheleth> when more people use Linux there should be some good games in the pipeline :)
[19:57] <bid3> hi all!
[19:58] <CrazySpaz666> hey bid3
[19:58] <corporal_clegg> HelloWorld1, can I connect via bluetooth a mouse and a keyboard at the same time?
[19:58] <corporal_clegg> ops... sorry HelloWorld1
[19:58] <Alejandritob> Hi all
[19:58] <HelloWorld1> corporal_clegg it's wokay ;)
[20:00] <rama_su> Looking for a good program to convert .mov to .flv on ubuntu if anyone has some great advice? ^^
[20:00] <jhoc2x> psycardis: ok.. i just added you on yahoo (pidgit)
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> rama_su, devede or something like that
[20:00] <bid3> i want to install a latex-package. some document told me that i have to unpack it into /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/. but this path doesn't exist on my machine... so what to do?
[20:00] <rama_su> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks jack
[20:00] <proq> Koheleth: there are good games already, just not a lot
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:01] <genii> bid3: Try to see if the path without the /local/ part exists
[20:01] <Lr5> Strange, my system clock always goes back to manual and wrong time after a while; using ubuntu 7.10
[20:01] <Alejandritob> bid3 why not just create that directory?
[20:01] <Lr5> Has anyone else had problems like that? It could be related to hibernating the computer instead of shutting it down
[20:02] <Andycass1> Why should i use route when i want to join a wpa wlan? (what should i setup with route)
[20:02] <bid3> genii, yes it does, but it contains only a folder named "preview" shall i really unzip the package here ?
[20:03] <jhoc2x> anyone here downloading mp3's   ??? what programm you use?
[20:03] <genii> bid3: I'd recommend instead to create the directory you need in the /usr/local/...    path.
[20:03] <bid3> ﻿Alejandritob, i'm not sure if this will render my installation unstable in any way...
[20:03] <eax> Can anyone help me configure the console mail application Alpine?
[20:03] <Koheleth> proq: have played stalker
[20:03] <bid3> kay.. root as owner/group ?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bid3, if in doubt.. make a backup
[20:04] <mnjb> hey guys, ive got a question, how can i reset my graphics settings? ive changed something, resolution or made it widescreen or somethign and now the screen just flickers, so i cant actually see how to change it back
[20:05] <PedanticSteve> is there a way to tell what network driver I am using?  lspci shows my NIC as "02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)"
[20:05] <frostburn> PedanticSteve, lsmod
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mnjb, If all else fails   http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[20:05] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: thanks
[20:05] <Azenis> Hi. I have about 20 movies. I want to take my favorite scenes from them and compile them into a single one. any program that can do that ?
[20:05] <BuFF> i'm thinking to install a fluxbox, so i  was wondering what's the difference between fluxbox and this one http://wiki.fluxbuntu.org ?
[20:06] <mnjb> thanks for the link jack
[20:06] <Koheleth> mnjb: try ctrl alt backspace
[20:06] <Koheleth> then log back in
[20:06] <danikar_1ork> BuFF: Fluxbox is just the interface fluxbuntu uses i think.
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mnjb, np, that will reset everything...  Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first
[20:07] <jhoc2x> david i have to restart.. updates are installed... it says i have to restart my system.. ^_^  do i really have to restart right now?
[20:07] <eax> Can anyone help me configure the console mail application Alpine?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> eax, Never heard of it.. did you get it from our repos?
[20:08] <psycose> hello
[20:08] <lordleemo> eax: http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jhoc2x, you dont need to reboot now..
[20:09] <eax> Jack_Sparrow: Yes:)
[20:09] <jhoc2x> ok..
[20:09] <eax> Lordleemo: Thanks :D
[20:09] <bid3> okay... i tried to compile a document with the new package... it didn't work... but the output gave me the hint that there is a "/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/" .... that's what i'm looking for
[20:09] <psycardis> Azenis: check out ubuntu studio edition, you don't have to run it but it has several programs that do that type of hting
[20:09] <PedanticSteve> frostburn:if my output looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64023/ how can I tell which is the driver for my Ethernet card?
[20:09] <bid3> thanks all
[20:09] <Azenis> psycardis: thanks
[20:09] <floating> ./configure --with-pam --with-pam_smbpass  if there are 2 options, i just do it like this ? :o) Usage: ./configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]...
[20:10] <psycose> Hello,  how can i know all packages that are present in a K/Ubuntu CD (alternate or not) or DVD ? thanks
[20:10] <grims> When I try to update packages using the package manager, my computer locks up and the keyboard lights flash on and off.  I have checked my syslogs for any information and I can't see any faults -- any help would be appreciated!
[20:11] <frostburn> PedanticSteve, are you sure that that is the output of lsmod?
[20:11] <PedanticSteve>  frostburn: yes, I jsut got it
[20:12] <PedanticSteve>  frostburn: the "lsmod" command is on line 3 of that output
[20:13] <boggystudios> is the new ubuntu going to be super awesome or just regular awesome?
[20:13] <andre_pl> boggystudios: from what i've seen its regular awesome
[20:13] <daekdroom> boggystudios: I'd say super buggy as in 7.10ness
[20:13] <daekdroom> It's fast. but it's buggy and its kernel isn't that great.
[20:13] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: the reason I am checking this is because I ahve network slowness issues and I want to rule out a bad driver as the cause
[20:13] <gogeta> daekdroom hey!
[20:13] <frostburn> PedanticSteve, i see Interpreter:    'paste.ubuntu-nl.org'   as line 3, try running it again and repaste to pastebin please
[20:14] <daekdroom> gogeta: Who are you?
[20:14] <gogeta> daekdroom calling 7.10 super buggy
[20:14] <dystopianray> gogeta: 7.10 is super buggy
[20:14] <gogeta> >:o
[20:14] <gogeta> daekdroom maybe for you
[20:14] <daekdroom> not really buggy. But could be better.
[20:14] <daekdroom> It's like 6 months old and it still has a few annoying bugs.
[20:14] <grims> Any idea what the problem could be?
[20:15] <gogeta> daekdroom everything on my setup works even 3d acell out of the box ;-)
[20:15] <daekdroom> gogeta: lucky you. It was a pain to me to install fglrx driver in 7.10. You can't even imagine 8.04
[20:15] <gogeta> daekdroom oss works on mine
[20:15] <daekdroom> and every reboot I've to run "depmod -a" or X won't start.
[20:15] <CrazySpaz666> daekdroom same problem here
[20:16] <magnetron> !support
[20:16] <DanikarHH> daekdroon: Everything in 7.10 works fine for me. Easier time than I have ever had getting all my junk working.
[20:16] <boggystudios> the only think that I find annoying is Knetworkmanager
[20:16] <psycardis> what is the default location for wget to save files?
[20:16] <Pici> magnetron: bot just died :/
[20:16] <CrazySpaz666> I can't even install 8.04, it refuses ti partition my drive D:
[20:16] <dystopianray> psycardis: the current directory
[20:16] <magnetron> psycardis: the same folder that you were running the command in.
[20:16] <gogeta> well i whont disagree abought video drivers befor mine was oss it was a pain
[20:17] <gogeta> all kinds of hoops to make it work
[20:17] <Petengy> hi to all
[20:17] <psycardis> so by default the user's home directory?
[20:17] <daekdroom> DanikarHH: The only annoying stuff in 7.10 to me was Rhythmbox freezing untill I reboot and fglrx driver. Any other bug wasn't really annoying.
[20:17] <redips1> Hello all from Stockton NY USA
[20:17] <dystopianray> psycardis: no
[20:17] <dystopianray> psycardis: by default it goes into your current working directory
[20:17] <DanikarHH> daekdroom: Ah, I don't use Rythmbox. Never really liked it.
[20:17] <Petengy> could I ask a suggestion for a good web site creator app ?
[20:17] <pistache> I use Rhythmbox but only since I can use it with Jack
[20:17] <Exteris> Petengy, bluefish
[20:17] <kane77> Petengy, you mean WYSIWYG editor?
[20:18] <Exteris> pistache, mpd ?
[20:18] <gogeta> Petengy a .tct file and knoe how
[20:18] <boggystudios> Petengy: kwrite
[20:18] <gogeta> .txt
[20:18] <magnetron> psycardis: when you open the terminal, you can go to any directory with the "cd" command. you will see what's the current one with the "pwd" command
[20:18] <DJones> !html | Petengy
[20:18] <pistache> what do you men exteris by "mpd" ? ^^ I don't understand sorry
[20:18] <gogeta> boggystudios oh beat ya :P
[20:18] <boggystudios> lol
[20:18] <Exteris> pistache, mpd is a music player daemon
[20:18] <Exteris> !mpd | pistache
[20:18] <Exteris> oh wait ubotu's gone
[20:19] <DJones> Is ubotu out of commission?
[20:19] <magnetron> Exteris: message the bit
[20:19] <gogeta> we killed him
[20:19] <__david__> can anyone tell me why wireless is slow all of a sudden,youtube videos and other like files load so slow,yet last night they loaded almost instantly
[20:19] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: give me a min.. like I mentioned I have network slowness issues and the page is takign a while to load
[20:19] <DanikarHH> Petengy: Check out Quanta. http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[20:19] <mok0> Arrgh, they killed Kenn... Ubotu
[20:19] <Exteris> magnetron, i believe mpd has jack support, and i love it anyways, so perhaps go to #mpd for questions
[20:19] <Exteris> You bastards!
[20:19] <magnetron> Exteris: i don't have any questions!
[20:20] <Pici> !test
[20:20] <redips1> Is there a way i can put Kubunti on a sepreat drive and have a duel boot?
[20:20] <Pici> ubot5: thanks botu
[20:20] <boggystudios> _david_: kids on the east coast just got out of school
[20:20] <pistache> Yes but you what do you mean ? I am using Rhythmbox
[20:20] <Exteris> pistache, there are more media players under the sun
[20:20] <Exteris> magnetron, oh crap wrong person
[20:20] <mok0> redips1:  sure
[20:20] <Exteris> pistache, apt-cache show mpd
[20:21] <magnetron> __david__: Youtube throttle their users speed when they watch a lot of youtube videos
[20:21] <psycardis> You know what's funny? that the firefox release schedule is just behind Ubuntu's so that ubuntu has to push a beta of firefox every year.
[20:21] <simmerz> my mouse pointer has gone crazy. it is just a vertical dotted line. any ideas why?
[20:21] <mok0> redips1: just  boot up the installer and install to the second drive
[20:21] <pistache> ah okay...i'll try it. But since rhythmbox is working, i don't know if I need to change
[20:21] <DanikarHH> Do they have Linux keyboards? Super != Windows or Apple key.
[20:22] <__david__> magnetron:its like that on all sites that require flash is my guess...imeem,youtube,etc
[20:22] <redips1> I have ubuntu on one drive and I want kunbutu on another. I have no use for windows. I have that on a second machine.
[20:22] <magnetron> __david__: maybe it's because flash sucks?
[20:22] <simmerz> redips1: why not just install kubuntu-desktop and then choose which window manager you want when you log in?
[20:22] <DanikarHH> redips1: Can't you just have , what simmerz said.
[20:23] <mnjb> anyone know why when starting up the ubuntu boot logo looks weird, like pixelated and stuff?
[20:23] <redips1> Ok..I just have not heard of anyone doing it that way. It's aways windows and then linux.
[20:24] <simmerz> redips1: ubuntu and kubuntu are identical except for the window managers though
[20:24] <proq> mnjb: ubuntu most likely didn't detect your screen size so it defaulted to 640x480
[20:24] <simmerz> so you can boot it and then choose your window manager
[20:24] <gogeta> redips1 ?
[20:24] <Andycass1> This is really starting to piss me off, im been trying to get my wifi to work for 2 hours now!!!!!!!
[20:24] <gogeta> simmerz look in session
[20:24] <nass> Hy, can anybody help me setup my Wifi USB dongle ?
[20:24] <gogeta> simmerz you can slect your wm there
[20:24] <dystopianray> Andycass1: what wifi card is it?
[20:24] <redips1> how do I do that.
[20:24] <gogeta> simmerz when your in gdm
[20:24] <simmerz> gogeta: it's not me that doesn't know. it's redips1
[20:25] <mnjb> anyway to sort it out proq? it used to be fine, until i had problems after changing my screen settings, got them working now, but the logo is weird
[20:25] <Andycass1> dystopianray: bcm43xx chipset
[20:25] <gogeta> redips1 well now you do
[20:25] <Pusher> hi all
[20:25] <nass> it is a Belking USB dongle, a F5D7050
[20:25] <cory_> hey i have an external hard drive and i can add things to it but when i try to delete it gives me an error and says i don't have permission to write to the trsch folrder in /media
[20:25] <simmerz> anyone else had this odd looking mouse pointer issue?
[20:25] <proq> mnjb: that should be determined by your boot loader (most likely grub)
[20:25] <Andycass1> dystopianray: Its working like it should, but it is not connecting to the fukin network, it just sits and does nothing, i have no idea why it does it - ive done everything right as far as i know.
[20:25] <redips1> Ok..Thanks after the upgrade in a few days i'll try it.
[20:25] <mnjb> yeah its grub
[20:26] <dystopianray> Andycass1: are you using ndiswrapper?
[20:26] <Andycass1> dystopianray: No, restricted drivers
[20:26] <dystopianray> Andycass1: use ndiswrapper
[20:27] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: does that show up better?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64025/
[20:27] <Andycass1> dystopianray: what difference does it make?
[20:27] <dystopianray> Andycass1: it'll most likely actually work
[20:27] <simmerz> no one has seen this pointer issue before?
[20:28] <Pici> simmerz: What issue?
[20:29] <simmerz> Pici: mouse pointer corruption - it looks like a dotted vertical line that's about 50px high. was fine earlier, then it just changed.
[20:29] <jhoc2x> guys.. i'll restart my system now.. ^_^ thanks for everything.. ^_^ i'll be back soon for some enlightinment.. ^_^
[20:29] <Pici> simmerz: Sounds like a video driver issue
[20:30] <linkmaster03> how do I adjust HPLIP settings?
[20:32] <frostburn> PedanticSteve, it looks like you're using wireless cfg80211, and atl1
[20:32] <jacob_> i have the flash plugin in opera's directory, how come flash content won't display in a page?
[20:32] <jacob_> the opera channel has limited users
[20:33] <twogood> hi! anyone else sharing this error with the latest firefox update for Gutsy? /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/firefox/libxpcom_core.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9nsCString20AssignWitjConversionERK18nsAString_internal
[20:33] <Itaku> i try to start my ubuntu but it says error 15 press any key to continue
[20:33] <Itaku> what does that maen
[20:33] <Itaku> mean
[20:33] <dystopianray> jacob_: opera's directory is probably the wrong place
[20:33] <twogood> (i'd love to search for bug reports but I can't start firefox :-)
[20:33] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: atl1 is the wired driver?
[20:33] <frostburn> yes
[20:34] <jacob_> dystopianray: i installed opera from a package from the official site
[20:34] <dystopianray> Itaku: error 15 is 'file not found' sounds like it is looking at the wrong partition
[20:34] <Petengy> hi to all
[20:34] <jacob_> dystopianray: though the preferences for the plugin within the browser itself lists directories where the flash plug in is found
[20:35] <dystopianray> jacob_: so has it found the flash plugin?
[20:35] <PedanticSteve> frostburn: now the hard part... how do I tell what version I am using and if there is a newer version to try?
[20:35] <dystopianray> jacob_: oh actually, flash doesn't work in opera, it's a known issue with the current flash plugin
[20:35] <jacob_> dystopianray: ok thns for your help
[20:36] <dystopianray> jacob_: it's not an issue with ubuntu, it's a problem with opera and/or adobe
[20:36] <dystopianray> depending on how you look at it
[20:36] <jacob_> dystopianray: ok thx for the info ;)
[20:36] <frostburn> PedanticSteve, uname -a there are no driver versions only kernel versions, modules are lumped together
[20:36] <MrBill> I'm having some trouble with one of my logins. Late last week I changed the GID and UID on it to coordinate it with another linux box on my network, now I'm unable to login as user "alana" on my Ubunut 7.10 system. If I look at the .xsessions-errors in her directory I see the following (http://www.pastebin.ca/993581). When I go to /tmp and take a look, i dont' even see a gconfd-alana file, so it seems that it has been somehow deleted completely.
[20:36] <MrBill> Does anyone have any advice on how to approach this?
[20:37] <MrBill> I'm not sure how to get a gconfd-alana so that this login can start functioning again, do I need to recreate the user?
[20:37] <PupUser-da5233> anyone got any idea weather my netgear wg111t wireless network usb dongle will work in the new ubuntu hardy release!
[20:37] <dystopianray> PupUser-da5233: what wifi chip does it use?
[20:37] <PupUser-da5233> im not sure, netgears are pretty notorius
[20:37] <magnetron> !hardware | PupUser-da5233
[20:37] <ubotu> PupUser-da5233: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:38] <thinkingfrog> hello all
[20:38] <Itaku> dystopianray: how do i fix it?
[20:38] <PupUser-da5233> has wireless support changed at all since the last kernal
[20:38] <PupUser-da5233> with th new kernal i mean
[20:38] <thinkingfrog> I used restricted drivers to install Nvidia Legacy drivers...it says "in use" "enabled" but X starts in Vesa mode
[20:38] <proq> MrBill: did you recursively update all of that user's file permissions to the new uid/gid?
[20:38] <pistache-ubuntu> I'm back
[20:39] <dystopianray> Itaku: edit the grub entry so it points at the correct partition
[20:39] <Itaku> how?
[20:39] <MrBill> proq: I changed everything in /home/alana, but I may have missed some in other directories
[20:39] <dystopianray> Itaku: press 'e' on the entry you want to boot while in grub, then you can specify a different partition
[20:40] <amenado> Itaku-> the error 15 meant it can not find stage1_5 files
[20:40] <thinkingfrog> I'm going to tinker with my xorg.conf file
[20:41] <proq> MrBill: including .gconf and others?
[20:41] <Itaku> how do i make one?
[20:41] <Petengy> could I ask a suggestion for a good web site creator app ?
[20:41] <dystopianray> Itaku: what do you want to make?
[20:41] <Itaku> i got alot of stage1_5 files
[20:41] <DJones> !html | Petengy
[20:41] <ubotu> Petengy: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[20:42] <MrBill> proq - it would seem not
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> Petengy: nvu or quanta is what I would reccomend
[20:42] <amenado> Itaku-> stage1_5 files should be in /boot/grub/  dir
[20:42] <soncio> hallo
[20:42] <Itaku> amenado: im in there and i have alot of them
[20:42] <MrBill> I'm pretty new at this..... and i think i messed something up along the way. I'm seeing in the /tmp directory a "mapping-user" file for all the other users on the system, but none for alana
[20:42] <MrBill> as well as the gconfd-user file
[20:42] <amenado> Itaku-> what does your  /boot/grub/device.map  says?
[20:42] <MrBill> I think I probably have cooked this user
[20:42] <skopjani_18> ,mkj
[20:43] <Petengy> Odd-rationale,  TnX a lot :)
[20:43] <gaurav_> i have a problem on my newly gibbon -> heron upgrade which seems to relate to bug 210538 - i can't access the gdm login dialog but the orange background and cursor are displayed
[20:43] <Itaku> (hd0)/dev/sda
[20:43] <Itaku> thats my file
[20:43] <Itaku> device.map
[20:43] <Odd-rationale> hmm. why did both ubot5 and ubotu reply?
[20:43] <Odd-rationale> !test
[20:43] <ubotu> Failed.
[20:43] <Odd-rationale> :?
[20:44] <dystopianray> MrBill: did you update the owner of the user's home directory to reflect the new uid?
[20:44] <MrBill> yes, /home/alana is owned by the new UID and GID (that's what you are asking, right?)
[20:44] <dystopianray> MrBill: that's what i was asking
[20:44] <Petengy> DJones, TnX to u too :)
[20:45] <amenado> Itaku-> prefix your responses to me with my nick, or else i will miss your answers
[20:45] <gabbs> How do you remove packages and every dependency and config and so on?
[20:45] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to stop amsn from minimising on startup? i can't find the option anywhere!
[20:45] <gabbs> apt-get remove and purge doesn't do the trick for me - when re-installing I get many errors.
[20:45] <dystopianray> gabbs: apt-get remove --purge will remove configs
[20:45] <Suprano> hi there
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> any op in here that can fix the dual bot problem of ubot5 and ubotu ?
[20:46] <chazco> Hi... does Ubuntu 8.04 include the ttf-liberation fonts? Can they be install on Gusty?
[20:46] <MrBill> The home directory is still owned, and I'm able to SSH in as Alana and navigate around just fine. When I go to login from the desktop though, I am greeted with a pile of errors
[20:46] <gabbs> dystopianray, doesn't work, I get error s with that
[20:46] <Suprano> the system is so slow, using the mouse is nearly impossible. cpu usage is >10%, mem usage <50%   and still it is sooo slow.. any help appriciated
[20:46] <taoge> 有中国人不？
[20:47] <dystopianray> Suprano: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[20:47] <chazco> Anyone using Textmaker 2006 on Ubuntu? If so do the msttcorefonts work for you (on mine they appear with no spacing)?
[20:48] <MrBill> after failing at logging in via GUI I logged in via SSH and noticed that there was entries in the .xsession-errors file
[20:48] <Suprano> dystopianray alright
[20:48] <Suprano> the full dmesg?
[20:48] <Itaku> amenado: sorry my devices.list is (hd0)/dev/sda
[20:48] <Suprano> or just the last part?
[20:49] <dystopianray> Suprano: i guess the last part will do
[20:49] <DracoZA> Can anyone help me with the command to clone my desktop to the other output of my graphics card ?
[20:49] <dystopianray> DracoZA: what video card?
[20:49] <Devourer> Does 8.04 come out today?
[20:49] <DracoZA> dystopianray, nvidia
[20:50] <dystopianray> DracoZA: fire up nvidia-settings and you can configure that sort of thing
[20:50] <Suprano> dystopianray http://paste.debian.net/1348/
[20:50] <Guillem> DracoZA, nvidia-settings should do the trick if your xorg.conf is sane enough.
[20:50] <dystopianray> Devourer: april 24
[20:50] <amenado> Itaku can you paste the contents of your menu.lst ? and does that menu.lst resides on your /dev/hda1 ?
[20:50] <dystopianray> Suprano: ok nothing unusual there
[20:50] <Devourer> dystopianray, Oh... :(((
[20:51] <dystopianray> Suprano: if you run 'top' is there anything at the top that is using lots of cpu?
[20:51] <DracoZA> dystopianray, ive been trying that for hours, it wants to do all fancy things, multiple x, 1 desktop stretched across 2 screens etc. but theres nowhere to simply clone
[20:51] <Itaku> amenado: one sec
[20:51] <Itaku> !pastebin
[20:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:51] <Suprano> dystopianray nothing above >5% there
[20:51] <DracoZA> dystopianray, Guillem I just want to output to my tv
[20:51] <py3k-er> hello
[20:51] <Itaku> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64028/
[20:52] <Suprano> dystopianray the overall cpu usage is ~2.7%
[20:52] <Itaku> amenado: ^^
[20:52] <shouki> had a quick question.  I installed my nvidia drivers with envy, and now the update manager has a new version of nvidia-glx-new  should I just let it update those? or is it better to play it safe and leave it well alone?
[20:52] <dystopianray> Suprano: is it only the mouse taht is slow?
[20:52] <MrBill> If I delete a user, can I then immediately aftewards create a new user with the same UID/GID or are they somehow reserved or something for a certain time after they are "freed" up by the deleting of a user?
[20:52] <Kev2600> hello
[20:52] <runa_> which package is AM_PROG_LIBTOOL in
[20:52] <dystopianray> DracoZA: hrrm ok, i'm not sure i don't have two monitors to try it out with
[20:53] <Suprano> dystopianray  first thing noticable are slow programs, keyboard input is delayed, mouse movement and clicks also
[20:53] <Kev2600> noob here... just wondering how i can get my wireless to auto reconnect on reboot
[20:53] <Suprano> though, right now it seems to work agian
[20:53] <Guillem> MrBill, open shells may not know about this change
[20:53] <Starnestommy> runa_: probably in libtool
[20:53] <DracoZA> dystopianray, k, someone gave me the 1 liner for the terminal a while ago which worked fine but I cant remember it :(
[20:54] <runa_> Starnestommy i tried but it is not there
[20:54] <Suprano> but i checked htop frequently and it never was >5%
[20:54] <runa_> how can i search?
[20:54] <dystopianray> hrrm htop?
[20:54] <dystopianray> isn't that for apache?
[20:54] <Starnestommy> runa_: is automake installed?
[20:54] <Guillem> DracoZA, I've done it with two monitors... never with monitor/TV. However, it is easy: you launch nvidia-settings and tell it to scan the monitors and then you enable the tv and so on...
[20:54] <Suprano> just a more beatifule top ;)
[20:54] <Suprano> beautiful
[20:54] <MrBill> Guillem: So, if i delete, then log out completely, log back in, and then create the new user I would have 1003 available as my GID/UID?
[20:55] <runa_> yes
[20:55] <Suprano> with ncurses interface n stuff
[20:55] <runa_> Starnestommy yes
[20:55] <DracoZA> Guillem, I have it working at the office with 2 monitors and its wonderful, a TV however seems to be a pain in the...
[20:55] <Xiliath> anyone tested ubuntu mobile yet?
[20:55] <Itaku> amenado?
[20:55] <Starnestommy> runa_: and build-essential?
[20:55] <Guillem> MrBill,  I guess so. I suppose 1003 is a large enough ID so no problems arise....
[20:56] <iratik> How can i tell my system to use a different swap ... I suspect that using flash memory for swap space would be quicker than SATA .... so i'm wondering if i can use SD memory and that might be quicker than using the disk for SWAP... like cheap SSD ... any ideas?
[20:56] <Guillem> DracoZA, I have it working with the laptop monitor and the DVI output. Honever doing the same with CRT output requires I modify my xorg.conf
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> anyone have any tips on keeping my laptop cooler? Summer coming up...
[20:56] <Odd-rationale> links would be apprceiated!
[20:56] <keymoo> chuck water on it
[20:57] <Xiliath> odd what type of laptop you have?
[20:57] <dystopianray> Odd-rationale: turn off your laptop and go to the beach
[20:57] <ompaul> iratik, your system should not really be using swap - and if it is remember that flash only has 10k or so writes to it
[20:57] <iratik> 800mb of swap currently used right now
[20:57] <Odd-rationale> Xiliath: toshiba tecra m4. tablet to be exact...
[20:57] <DracoZA> Guillem, would you use twinview or seperate x window ?
[20:57] <Xiliath> intel or amd processor?
[20:57] <Guillem> DracoZA, I only use twinview
[20:57] <holiday42> underclock the cpu?
[20:57] <runa_> Starnestommy yes
[20:58] <Odd-rationale> dystopianray: I'm pretty far from the beach... I'm in TX. temp can get as high as 100 F during the summer...
[20:58] <ompaul> iratik, do this >>free | grep Swap << what is the middle figure on that result
[20:58] <Odd-rationale> Xiliath: intel
[20:58] <Xiliath> ah
[20:58] <Xiliath> where in texas you from?
[20:58] <ompaul> !offtopic
[20:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:58] <Xiliath> yeah
[20:58] <zaggy-nl> !hardyheron
[20:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardyheron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:58] <zaggy-nl> hmm
[20:58] <Odd-rationale> Xiliath: mostly my harddrive is the hottest spot on my laptop...
[20:58] <DracoZA> Guillem, another Q, with all my resolution changing now everytime I open a terminal it starts up almost 70% off screen, how do I reset its start position ?
[20:59] <ompaul> !hardy
[20:59] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[20:59] <dystopianray> Odd-rationale: 100F is not very hot
[20:59] <Guillem> DracoZA, in my case, I have to switch from "Option         "metamodes" "DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0, DFP-1: nvidia-auto-select +1920+0" to "Option         "metamodes" "DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0, CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select +1920+0"
[20:59] <dystopianray> Odd-rationale: I doubt you'd have much trouble with your laptop, unless you put it directly under the sun
[20:59] <holiday42> oh, then wait for seagate next solid state drive... after they sue everyone else, of course
[20:59] <MrBill> what is the recommended method for changing the GID and UID of a user and having their files/directories follow suit to the new UID/GID as well?
[20:59] <Kev2600> im new to ubuntu... tryied last year but this seem to be the year i plunge 100% to ubuntu and ditch the old ball and chain(microsoft) I need a few advice on how to setup my wireless to auto reconnect to my wireless network after a reboot. can anyone give me some pointers?
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> dystopianray: it makes my room hot.
[21:00] <DracoZA> Guillem, another Q, with all my resolution changing now everytime I open a terminal it starts up almost 70% off screen, how do I reset its start position ?
[21:00] <Guillem> DracoZA, this is why Xinerama is not working OK so the terminal starts wherever
[21:00] <shouki> So am I safe updating nvidia-glx-new with update manager if I installed using envy?
[21:00] <bluuu> I'm looking for some help in Hardy. I have a Logitech mx310 mouse and the movement is choppy. I draw polygons instead of circles in Gimp when I rotate it. Any solution please?
[21:00] <iratik> ompaul: Swap:      6080560     590068    5490492
[21:00] <erUSUL> MrBill: ?? why would anyone want to change its uid/gid ??
[21:01] <Guillem> DracoZA, change your metamodes line and restart xserver, and then nvidia-settings (or nvidia-driver) will work OK (at least this is my experience)
[21:01] <ompaul> iratik, so the middle one is like 59 megs in use ...
[21:01] <MrBill> I need the UID and GID to match that off one of my other Linux boxes, so that the permissions for my NFS shares are properly adhered to
[21:01] <shouki> erUSUL: what if one is attatched to a particular one?
[21:01] <DracoZA> Guillem, okie dokie
[21:01] <iratik> ompaul: no 590068/1024 is not 59
[21:01] <MrBill> I have a user Alana on another box, and she is 1003/1003 on it, and there are some directories that are NFS mounted from that box
[21:01] <Guillem> DracoZA, I got *mad* with this issue. I think you may be facing the same....
[21:01] <BraveHeart_> salut
[21:01] <iratik> its 576.23 mb
[21:01] <Alejandritob> MrBill usermod do that
[21:01]  * Kcaj slaps K4k around a bit with a large trout
[21:01] <Alejandritob> man usermod
[21:01] <Alejandritob> is quite simple
[21:01] <Kcaj> I'm upgrading from Carniverous Cthulhu to the latest version of Ubuntu. Can Iget the latest and greatest easily from a link somewhere for x86?
[21:01] <iratik> !fr @ BraveHeart_
[21:02] <MrBill> I used usermod to change the UID, but it didn't change the files and directories on it's own
[21:02] <spotter> is there a dbus browser that works w/ gutsy?
[21:02] <wikzo> I am going to upgrade my Ubuntu to 8.04. I have a separate Home partition. Will my GNOME menus, shortcuts etc. be removed or will they be the same when upgrading?
[21:02] <spotter> it seems that every browser fails on it
[21:02] <DracoZA> Guillem, yup several hours running already...
[21:02] <amenado> Itaku replace this UUID=7c8c7eb1-d480-40f0-a3b8-aa4b348b1a09  with /dev/sda0 and see if it makes a difference
[21:02] <Alejandritob> you have to do ir with chmod or chown
[21:02] <MrBill> I had to do that on my own, and perhaps that's where things got messed up and I broke the login for that user
[21:02] <ompaul> iratik, fine and the allotted space is vast  - what are you running on that box that has it swapping so much - flash has about 10k writes before the chip dies so that would not be the best practice
[21:02] <Kev2600> i have also some file on my windows workgroup shared but i cant connect to them. I see the fileserver name but when i double click on it i have no directory etc...
[21:02] <Kcaj> Also, is there a way to install Ubuntu from Windows installed on one hard drive, to another hard drive on the same machine without having to burn any cds or dvds?
[21:03] <kik> BraveHeart_: /J #ubuntu-fr ;)
[21:03] <iratik> ompaul: http://pastie.caboo.se/185026
[21:03] <Xiliath> kcaj, what about using the image to make a virtual drive?
[21:04] <Kcaj> Xiliath: I'm with you so far, I've got Daemon Tools... so
[21:04] <danikarpn> I am looking into getting a newer keyboard. Do I need specifal linux drivers to get functions keys on them to work generally?
[21:04] <Kcaj> I can't just run the damn Ubuntu install from inside Windows though, right? :P
[21:04] <Xiliath> i know the new version of ubuntu lets you do an install from windows onto your ntfs partition
[21:04] <simcop2387-lap> ok quick question, lets say i had a system booting damn small linux on a system that only has an external usb cdrom that it can't boot off of, what should i have a look at to start the ubuntu install from inside DSL?
[21:04] <Kcaj> lol I have two drives, one is very fast, 300GB, that is the drive I want to linux native fs on keep the other drive fat32/ntfs/Windows
[21:04] <pschorf> hello, all
[21:05] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone know how to stop amsn from minimising on startup?
[21:05] <Kcaj> I do NOT want to install on to my NTFS partition or anything, I want to format the other drive to Linux native, and install on that
[21:05] <Helsu> I have shared a folder from Ubuntu. When I try to access it through a windows machine in network. When I double-click on it I am prompted for a username and a password to access the index of the shared folders on my Ubuntu box. I do not want that to happen. What can I do to solve it?
[21:05] <Kcaj> but
[21:05] <DracoZA> Guillem, i'm gonna wait for 8.04 :) and hold thumbs that display management has been improved
[21:05] <Kcaj> from what you just said, Xiliath
[21:05] <pschorf> Is there a way to compile a C program for Win32 using GCC?
[21:05] <bluuu> I'm looking for some help in Hardy. I have a Logitech mx310 mouse and the movement is choppy. I draw polygons instead of circles in Gimp when I rotate it. Any solution please?
[21:05] <Kcaj> It sounds like the install may actually work from inside Windows
[21:05] <Kcaj> Where do I download this?
[21:05] <Kcaj> I'll tell you guys all if it works
[21:05] <Kcaj> and, if it does, write a tutorial
[21:05] <Kcaj> for people with similar "problems" to me
[21:05] <Kcaj> ;D
[21:05] <wikzo> I am going to upgrade my Ubuntu to 8.04. I have a separate Home partition. Will my GNOME menus, shortcuts etc. be removed or will they be the same when upgrading?
[21:06] <dystopianray> pschorf: not using the gcc installed with ubuntu
[21:06] <Guillem> DracoZA, AFAIK Hardy comes with a better xorg. Could do the trick.
[21:06] <Kev2600> anyone know how to autoconnect to a home wireless after a reboot with 8.04? every time i reboot i have no  connectivity, i have to reconnect the wireless device
[21:06] <ompaul> iratik, I think you need to get your db indexed and http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/optimize-table.html  either that or get much bigger box and check out your normalisation it helps a lot
[21:06] <DanikarPN> pschorf: You could use something like cygwin, and there is also MingGW
[21:06] <Kcaj> the good news is, if I like this new Jewbuntu on the test machine, I'm taking SuSE off about 5 servers to replace it with Ubuntu. I've heard great stuff so far
[21:06] <ompaul> iratik, but this is not a mysql help channel so I guess you got to head to the #mysql one
[21:06] <iratik> following all rules of normalization ... indexing is great (key efficiency is 98%)
[21:06] <Xiliath> kev try i quick google search, you should be able to find the awnser easy
[21:06] <Mimi> Hello, I'm looking for a music program  that lets me change the PITCH and SPEED of a song I want to listen to. I don't want to save the changes, just modify them temporarily. Something easier to use than ..audacity? Does such a program exist for ubuntu? Thanks in advance :)
[21:06] <pschorf> thanks, DanikarPN
[21:06] <Alejandritob> wikzo they will stay there
[21:06] <Kcaj> I use Audition for that stuff
[21:07] <wikzo> Alejandritob: Ok, thank you
[21:07] <Kcaj> I wont leave Windows for music...
[21:07] <Xiliath> mimi, what about lmms
[21:07] <ompaul> iratik, then it looks like there is nothing for it but to get more hardware (that is off the top of my head)
[21:07] <Alejandritob> np
[21:07] <Kcaj> Virtual DJ, FL Studio, Cubase, Acid, Reason, Audition, etc. there are just no *nix alternatives
[21:07] <ompaul> iratik, if you can afford to restart mysql
[21:07] <iratik> ompaul: did that earlier today when a runaway query brought the swap up to 1.5gb
[21:07] <Kcaj> Well, no *good* *nix alternatives
[21:07] <Mimi> Kcaj, long list, thanks, but thats not what im looking for. im looking for a simple plugin or something like 'best practice' app for windows
[21:07] <Kcaj> just WINE them or something
[21:08] <iratik> ompaul: thanks tho
[21:08] <iratik> good info about the 10K writes on flash memory
[21:08] <Kcaj> Audition is pretty easy
[21:08] <ompaul> iratik, yiou need a bigger box - throw some ram about it
[21:08] <Xiliath> oh you want it for windows mimi?
[21:08] <Kcaj> you load the song directly in to it
[21:08] <iratik> will have to shell out the real bucks for SSD
[21:08] <iratik> thanks
[21:08] <Kcaj> and then select the track, and change pitch/time/speed/temp/etc.
[21:08] <Mimi> no.....
[21:08] <Mimi> Can you read what i wrote >_>
[21:08] <Kcaj> and you can preserve pitch, or preserve tempo, adjust on a very very fine scale
[21:08] <Xiliath> oh, last part of your last repsonse confused me
[21:09] <Kcaj> Probably the most comprehensive way to stretch or compress audio wavs I've ever encountered, without distortion, etc.
[21:09] <Mimi> I have a program for Windows, called Best Practice. You load a song, adjust SIMPLE  sliders for pitch and speed. that's ALL I want to do. I don't wanna mix music, i'
[21:09] <Mimi> Im not a dj.
[21:09] <Kcaj> Audition works the same way :P
[21:09] <Mimi> Im looking for something very simple like that.
[21:09] <Kcaj> lol
[21:09] <dystopianray> Mimi: that program may work in wine
[21:09] <Kcaj> Audition is what Adobe turned Cool Edit in to
[21:10] <Kcaj> yeah actually, dystopianray is right
[21:10] <fevel> hey
[21:10] <Mimi> I dont have the program anymore, I had it by a trial, and its over.
[21:10] <Kcaj> crackz0rz
[21:10] <Kcaj> ;P
[21:10] <Mimi> no thanks
[21:10] <Kcaj> Find an open source alternative
[21:10] <DracoZA> does anyone know in what timezone hardy will be released ?
[21:10] <Mimi> DOH thats why Im here!
[21:10] <Kcaj> What is the most popular media player for MP3 in Ubuntu?>
[21:10] <ompaul> DracoZA, all of them? ;-)
[21:10] <dystopianray> DracoZA: GMT+1 afaik
[21:11] <Kcaj> I'm absolutely sure there is a plguin like you described for it
[21:11] <Mimi> My initial question: Hello, I'm looking for a music program  that lets me change the PITCH and SPEED of a song I want to listen to. I don't want to save the changes, just modify them temporarily. Something easier to use than ..audacity? Does such a program exist for ubuntu? Thanks in advance :)
[21:11] <dystopianray> DracoZA: and probably in the afternoon
[21:11] <DracoZA> thx dystopianray
[21:11] <Fishscene> !players
[21:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:11] <sjovan> wft has happend to the forum!? i can't finde show all threads by me and show all post by me any where...
[21:11] <Alejandritob> audacity is in the ubuntu repos..i thonk
[21:11] <Kcaj> I'd imagine there is a plugin for Audacious, or Exaile at lest
[21:11] <Mimi> Yes kcaj, a plugin would be fine. For  banshee or w/e, as long as it works. ive been looking for months and havent found any that works
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> sjovan: use the search feature
[21:12] <Kcaj> Hmm
[21:12] <Mimi> Yes, I "would imagine" too, but that doesnt help me :P
[21:12] <Kcaj> I'd umm
[21:12] <Kcaj> find one for you
[21:12] <Kcaj> if Hardon Harry was out
[21:12] <Kcaj> and I had it installed ;_;
[21:12] <Kcaj> but until then... can't help much, sorry mate.
[21:12] <sjovan> Odd-rationale: that's my point... thoes two things aren't there any more
[21:12] <Mimi> Alejandritob:  like i SAID, i dont want to use audacity, i want something simple. im not a dj, i dont want to save changes. I want a playlist, blah blah.
[21:12] <Kcaj> HBe wants Windows Media Player
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> sjovan: i missed those, too.
[21:12] <Kcaj> Slow down / Speed Up
[21:12] <Kcaj> lol
[21:12] <Kcaj> slider bar
[21:13] <jamiejackson> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found <-- this started popping up today. does anyone have any insight?
[21:13] <FloodBot2> Kcaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <sjovan> Odd-rationale: good that it isn't only me :)
[21:13] <sjovan> okay, who has fucked up the forum?
[21:13] <Kcaj> jamiejackson: It has been phased out.
[21:13] <sjovan> who is the guilty person?
[21:13] <Kcaj> Nobody uses gutsy any more.
[21:13] <ikonia> sjovan: is that language called for ?
[21:13] <jamiejackson> :)
[21:13] <ikonia> sjovan: not it is not
[21:13] <Vernunftige_Edel> hi
[21:13] <sjovan> ikonia: okay, sorry :/
[21:14] <Mimi> Fishscene: yes yes i know of pretty much all media players available. ATM  im not asking about players. can you recomend any plugins or whatever that YOU KNOW has speed/pitch changes?
[21:14] <Vernunftige_Edel> how can i install
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> sjovan: still, a lot a changes still are being made to the forum. maybe they will add it back soon...
[21:14] <Vernunftige_Edel> my wireless
[21:14] <sjovan> but one of the best fetures on the forum is gone :(
[21:14] <jrib> !wifi > Vernunftige_Edel (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:14] <Kcaj> ubotu? You have to be kidding me lol
[21:14] <sjovan> Odd-rationale: k, i hope so :)
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[21:15] <Mimi> >_>
[21:15] <Kcaj> :( what a sad sad day this is.
[21:15] <Fishscene> mimi, I don't actually know, but I called that information to help inform me/help jog some memories if anyone had info on which player might have what you are looking for
[21:15] <Kcaj> How long do I have to wait, on the East Coast of the United States for the new Ubuntu?
[21:15] <Kcaj> Days or hours?
[21:15] <jrib> Kcaj: days
[21:15] <Mimi> :/
[21:15] <Kcaj> Thursday, right?
[21:15] <stdin> jamiejackson: try "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ gutsy partner"
[21:15] <wikzo> I installed Firefox 3 beta on Ubuntu 7.10 in separate folder (so I can choose between Firefox 2 and 3). Should I remove the beta before upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:15] <Kcaj> I'm going to go crazy between now and then
[21:16] <Mimi> You get it as soon as its released, it doesnt matter what time zone it is for you....
[21:16] <hwilde_> Kcaj, why are you waiting, just get it
[21:16] <Kcaj> I finally killed all the server 2k8 enthusiasts, so the choice is between Ubuntu and Ubuntu at the moment because I really don't feel like messing with any other distro
[21:16] <Kcaj> hwilde_: Umm, because you can't upgrade between major versions, right?
[21:16] <Kcaj> Why get it now...?
[21:16] <Kcaj> Ah
[21:16] <Kcaj> So all I need now...
[21:17] <hwilde_> Kcaj, 8.04 rc is out just get it
[21:17] <Kcaj> is to install it right now? :D
[21:17] <Ergo^> evening
[21:17] <FloodBot2> Kcaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <Kcaj> link plz :)
[21:17] <Kcaj> !download 8.04 rc
[21:17] <Fishscene> Kcaj: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc
[21:17] <jamiejackson> thx stdin
[21:17] <Fishscene> Kcaj, you can also go to the Ubuntu mainsite and click on the count-down timer.
[21:17] <jarnos> Hello, ekiga freezed while I was doing audio test. It is still running. Is there something I could do to provide additional info to bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/220754
[21:17] <hwilde_> Kcaj, just go to the ubuntu download page, look at all versions, and get 8.04.  when the final release is out all you have to do is update
[21:18] <jrib> Kcaj: you can upgrade, but you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[21:18] <hwilde_> Kcaj, http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/hardy/
[21:18] <Kcaj> THis is going to take about a week
[21:18] <Vernunftige_Edel> whic driver do i need to install for wireless on ubuntu 7.10
[21:19] <Kcaj> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[21:19] <Kcaj> That is where I went
[21:19] <jarnos> Actually, system monitor tells ekiga is sleeping.
[21:19] <Kcaj> Was perfect
[21:19] <Kev2600> how do i get root access in ubuntu... some tool require me to have root access to do any kind of config
[21:19] <Mimi> jarnos: 'sleeping' is fine
[21:19] <Kcaj> lol
[21:19] <Kev2600> test
[21:19] <Kcaj> you log in as root
[21:19] <jrib> !root | Kev2600
[21:19] <ubotu> Kev2600: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:19] <Starnestommy> !sudo | Kcaj
[21:19] <Kcaj> with the root password
[21:19] <ubotu> Kcaj: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:19] <Starnestommy> gah
[21:19] <wikzo> I installed Firefox 3 beta on Ubuntu 7.10 in separate folder (so I can choose between Firefox 2 and 3). Should I remove the beta before upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:20] <Kcaj> You CAN guess the root password. Youa re silly, ubotu
[21:20] <jarnos> Mimi: But it is not responding.
[21:20] <Starnestommy> Kcaj: no, you cannot as there is no password
[21:20] <jrib> Kcaj: you cannot
[21:20] <Kcaj> What :O
[21:20] <Kcaj> When did this begin?
[21:20] <jrib> Kcaj: check your shadow file
[21:20] <Kev2600> i just downloaded a wireless connection manager
[21:20] <Jowi> Kcaj, somewhere around version 4.10
[21:20] <Kcaj> How will I ever rm -rf / ? :( :(
[21:20] <Kev2600> it ask me to go with root access
[21:20] <Mimi> kcaj ....
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, Dont even post that in fun.. thanks
[21:21] <Lifeisfunny> Maybe I don't understand "sleeping".    I was using rhythmbox and looked in the sys monitor and it said it was sleeping.   :p
[21:21] <Kcaj> Jack_Sparrow guess what
[21:21] <Kcaj> My name backwards is Jack
[21:21] <Kcaj> so we're kind of like brothers.
[21:21] <khalfan> hello
[21:21] <Kcaj> sup
[21:21] <jrib> Kcaj: please stay on the topic of ubuntu support.  You can have fun in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks
[21:22] <Kcaj> Aw,, well
[21:22] <Kcaj> I got what i need any way
[21:22] <spanther> http://pastebin.com/m15866b81  <-- does somebody know how to fix that?
[21:22] <khalfan> anyone here got gutsy?
[21:22] <Kcaj> I'll come bug you guys if I ever have any problems in the future after install
[21:22] <Kcaj> which I doubt
[21:22] <Kcaj> but I'nm kind of nervous now
[21:22] <Mimi> Lifeisfunny, most apps will be 'sleeping', for example, Im using Pidgin and Firefox, and both are "sleeping" :) Even though Im typing stuff on it. However, if you see 'zombie' thats bad
[21:22] <jrib> !wifi > Kev2600 (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:22] <Kcaj> What challenges does not being able to use root pose for most users?
[21:22] <budmang> Hey guys I have a question/need some help with apt-get.
[21:22] <MrBill> If i have created a new user via useradd from a terminal window, but neglected to use the -m switch to create their home directory, how would I go about triggering the creation of their home structure?
[21:23] <budmang> libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 is installed  - how can I clear this with apt-get(as I placed debian sources.list on accident on a ubuntu box?
[21:23] <Mimi> !ask  budmang  (Go ahead ;) )
[21:23] <Starnestommy> Kcaj: none.  Most users just use sudo
[21:23] <Kev2600> àthanks
[21:23] <Kev2600> ill read some more
[21:23] <Jowi> Kcaj, the only one I ever came accross was problems with webmin
[21:23] <Alejandritob> MrBill: again man usermod
[21:23] <Kcaj> Not me :( lol I've been root forever.
[21:23] <Kcaj> Aww Webmin rox
[21:23] <Kcaj> but
[21:23] <jrib> MrBill: you should just use 'adduser', easiest way is for you to just recreate the user
[21:23] <Kcaj> with a good flavor like Ubuntu and a good GUI I don't see a need for Webmin
[21:23] <edugonch> Hello, I need advice!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to install a linux system with graphical interface and easy to use in an old Celeron 733, 128M Ram and 8M video, I now that I can install ubuntu server and later a window Manager, but I don't know what window manager, some options are --> Openbox, FluxBox IceWM what is better for old computers?
[21:23] <Kcaj> I only ever used Webmin to help me with cron because cron is such a pain in the ass to configure by CL
[21:24] <budmang> Mimi: did you see my Q?
[21:24] <keymoo> edugonch - tried DSL?
[21:24] <jrib> budmang: your box is broken if you've installed a bunch of debian packages on it
[21:24] <Helsu> edugonch: I suggest Xubuntu, it is much lighter.
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[21:24] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[21:24] <chazco> Hi.. is it possible to prevent sudo timing out when installing updates on Gusty... it starts giving permission errors near the end. If i run it again all the failed packages install fine.
[21:24] <Kcaj> jrib: lol
[21:24] <keymoo> i run xubuntu
[21:24] <edugonch> DLS... I'll try it
[21:24] <Alejandritob> MrBill: usermod -d
[21:24] <edugonch> *DSL
[21:24] <MrBill> thank you =)
[21:24] <Jowi> edugonch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[21:24] <Kcaj> Is there a good GUI for cron? :( I hate trying to pico or something cron, it is like getting slapped in the face with a hammer.
[21:25] <edugonch> Jovi thanks for this URL
[21:25] <Alejandritob> Kcaj: Kcron
[21:25] <Alejandritob> is for KDE
[21:25] <Kcaj> AH, nice :D
[21:25] <khalfan> anyone now how i can uninstall alsa 1.0.15 ?
[21:25] <Kcaj> I'll be back in a bit, I'm going to go finish up this download and get ready to Ubuntulize
[21:26] <ailean> firefox keeps freezing on me - I haven't done anything to my machine except update using ubuntu's updater.  does anyone have the same problem?
[21:26] <Alejandritob> khalfan apt-get remove
[21:26] <Jowi> edugonch, flux/open-box, icewm, windowmaker etc are all good. lightweight apps such as Rox instead of Nautilus filemanager; Abiword instead of Openoffice; mousepad instead of gedit; etc etc
[21:27] <edugonch> Thanks Jovi
[21:27] <edugonch> I'll try it
[21:27] <khalfan> apt-get remove what alejandritob?
[21:27] <budmang> jrib: its just libc6 libc6-dev
[21:28] <Mimi> khalfan:  just that. apt-get remove
[21:28] <Alejandritob> the name of the package you want to remove
[21:28] <powertool08> i heard aptitude is superior to apt-get, is this true or are the about the same?
[21:28] <jrib> budmang: you can try downgrading them, get rid of the debian sources first
[21:29] <Alejandritob> powertool08: choose the one you find better
[21:29] <Joeseph> hey, is KDE anymore or less lighweight or cpu eating as gnome?  gnome isn't bad, I was just making sure KDE isn't any worse
[21:29] <Jowi> ailean, my firefox freeze quite often when flash is used.
[21:29] <Alejandritob> Joeseph: install kde-core is a litle faster
[21:29] <Mimi> powertool08: apt is cool if you know the name of the application you're looking for. if you're going to use aptitude, you might as well just use the  Gnome  Add/Remove found on the start menu ;p
[21:30] <Joeseph> Aeljandritob: than gnome?
[21:30] <Alejandritob> also dselect is a good to handle packages
[21:30] <khalfan> how do i know the name of  the package i want to remove  alejandritob?
[21:30] <Alejandritob> Joeseph: maybe yes
[21:30] <Alejandritob> test it
[21:31] <budmang> jrib:  I got rid of them, how do I downgrade it.
[21:31] <Alejandritob> gnome have many features enabled
[21:31] <Joeseph> Alejandritob: I'll try it out.... I want to make sure I can take it out later, so I'll follow a guide online...
[21:31] <jrib> budmang: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[21:31] <Kev2600> well im reading the info about wireless but i cant get it to keep connecting after a reboot
[21:32] <joaquine> hi
[21:32] <powertool08> mimi, ok, but i prefer command line when i can, its faster imo
[21:32] <joaquine> heello!!!
[21:32] <Alejandritob> Joeseph: seach in ubuntu forums
[21:32] <Alejandritob> is quite easy
[21:32] <rwycuff> joaquine:Hello
[21:32] <Joeseph> Alejandritob: got one already :)
[21:33] <joaquine> heeey
[21:33] <joaquine> hey
[21:33] <Mimi> Hey joaquine
[21:33] <joaquine> my first time w/ xchaat
[21:33] <Kev2600> this is pretty frustrating
[21:33] <Kev2600> it seem to be a common problem
[21:33] <Mimi> Oh :-) welcome to IRC joaquine. Is there anything we can help you with?
[21:33] <Kev2600> wifi dont autoconect on reboot
[21:34] <Joeseph> oo this will be a while....  1%....
[21:34] <rwycuff> Kev2600: set a profile up with network config for it to save the connection
[21:34] <Ruairidh> Hello World
[21:35] <x3o> hi
[21:36] <Mimi> Hello all
[21:36] <x3o> need gnome style packs
[21:36] <Mimi> gnome-look.org :-)
[21:36] <Kev2600> my network config is greyed out untill i login as admin.. then i can connect... i have saved up a home location but it default to nothing when i reboot.
[21:36] <isleshocky77> Is it a known bug that the System->Display  does not work for KUbuntu 8.04 with Kde4?
[21:37] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i install the windows media plugins in opera?
[21:37] <Mimi> "Does not work"? :)
[21:37] <x3o> mimi fuck you
[21:37] <Mimi> ... what? I was assking for more details, that's all O.o
[21:37] <Ruairidh> :s
[21:37] <wuxia> i have mplayer installed; I have bought a dvd of 'an inconveneinte truth'; when I mplayer the dvd ... I get garbage, I'm using ubuntu 7.10; how do I troubleshoot this?
[21:38] <Mimi> Don't worry x3o, I won't try to help you :) Have fun
[21:38] <wuxia> i have mplayer installed; I have bought a dvd of 'an inconveneinte truth'; when I mplayer the dvd ... I get garbage, I'm using ubuntu 7.10; how do I troubleshoot this? (vlc dvd:// doesn't play the dvd either); I can mount the dvd with "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdromm0" and see the *.VOB files (although trying to copy them gives me errors)
[21:38] <Starnestommy> wuxia: do you have libdvdcss?
[21:38] <tomd123> Mimi: it's ok, if he doesn't know how to get more styles, then I'm sure he'll be back or on the forums :P
[21:38] <Jowi> wuxia, you need libdvdcss2 to decrypt
[21:38] <Kev2600> fucking waist of time
[21:39] <Mimi> ... wait.. you're talking about gnome-look.org... O.o What about it? It has  lots and lots of styles, and it's the "official" site for  gnome styles... O.o x30 .... What did I do wrong?! LMAO
[21:39] <Myrtti> !8.04 | wuxia
[21:39] <ubotu> wuxia: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[21:39] <isleshocky77> Mimi: if you change the options the apply button never turns on.  If you leave the page with changed options it does not ask you if you want to save.
[21:39] <Myrtti> !language | Kev2600
[21:39] <ubotu> Kev2600: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:39] <Starnestommy> Mimi: he or she left
[21:39] <Jowi> !dvd > wuxia (read private message)
[21:39] <Mimi> I lol'ed
[21:39] <wuxia> Starnestommy , Jowi , ubotu : apt-cache search libdvdcss doesn't bring any results
[21:39] <Jowi> wuxia, I know. see the link that you got from ubotu
[21:40] <Hy71194> ? ubuntu
[21:40] <Hy71194> !ubuntu
[21:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[21:40] <NorD> hi, how i cant not open folders in dolphin as default ?
[21:40] <NorD> =)
[21:41] <Hy71194> !ntfs
[21:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:41] <dmsuperman> WOOOO! NEW MOBO AND CPU ARE HERE!!! :D
[21:41] <Ruairidh> :s
[21:41] <Hy71194> !mount HardDrive
[21:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount harddrive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <Hy71194> !mount
[21:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:42] <mojo> Help!  I just installed 8.04RC(amd64) and chose the plain-jane US kbd.  Now my keyboard's number pad is no-functional.  Neither the numbers nor the math or enter keys work.  The media buttons (volume, etc.) do work, at least most of them.  They never all worked (been with ubuntu since day 1).  The keyboard is an HP SK-2505.  Any ideas?  (I am searching too...)  Thanks!
[21:42] <mike-ekim> in xubuntu can i enable remote desktop via command line?
[21:42] <Mimi> Sorry Im having a major brainfart and i can't find the info online:  where's the folder where apache's  WWW is ? xD
[21:43] <isleshocky77> Mimi: Anything?
[21:43] <Alejandritob> maybe /var/www/localhost/httpdocs?
[21:43] <Mimi> Anything?
[21:43] <PedanticSteve> mimi, isnt it var/www or something like that
[21:43] <Starnestommy> Mimi: usually /var/www
[21:43] <jacob_> is there a channel for browser debates?
[21:43] <edugonch> ok, an other question for low memory systems... if I decide to use ubuntu server with openbox.... what is the best api to develop graphical application, I was thinking in using c++ GTK with Anjuta, any suggestion for openbox
[21:43] <Mimi> Must have uninstalled apache or something because its not there anymore >_> thanks all
[21:44] <Kev2600> please im stuck
[21:44] <Kev2600> i did the gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:44] <zboy417> hi...what's the code in terminal for pulling up system information
[21:44] <mojo> OH... The number pad DOES work in a VT fine; fails in X (including terminal)
[21:44] <Alejandritob> geany is a great lighweight IDE
[21:44] <Jowi> mike-ekim, not sure if xubuntu use a different vnc server or not, but with standard ubuntu you can type this in a terminal: gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled -t bool 1
[21:44] <Kev2600> i dont know what to edit to get it to autoconnect
[21:44] <danlley> hi
[21:44] <curley_sue> NO SOUND problem - hi all, I am running hardy on t61. tried to install HSF modem, no success. after removing the package I seem to have no sound card configured - any ideas?
[21:44] <Ruairidh> hi
[21:44] <Mimi> !flood > Kev2600
[21:45] <mike-ekim> Jowi: thanks, what does that do? would that diable also for the remote user to allow the connection ?
[21:45] <mike-ekim> caus ei have no physical access
[21:45] <danlley> is there anyone here ?
[21:45] <Mimi> Yes, lots of people here danlley
[21:45] <Jowi> mike-ekim, that assumes that you type it into an xterm though and that the desktop is already loaded.
[21:45] <Starnestommy> danlley: over 1000 users
[21:45] <mojo> danlley, no.
[21:45] <zboy417> what's the code for looking up what devices my system has?
[21:45] <Starnestommy> zboy417: lspci will list pci ones
[21:45] <mike-ekim> Jowi: does the desktop HAVE to be loaded?
[21:46] <Alejandritob> lsusb dor usb
[21:46] <Starnestommy> zboy417: there's also sudo lshw
[21:46] <mike-ekim> cause i have no physical access that is the problem
[21:46] <Alejandritob> for*
[21:46] <mike-ekim> is there a command I can type in to chyeck if it is already logged in? maybe it has an auto login feature
[21:46] <zboy417> ok...thanks :)
[21:46] <Alejandritob> mike-ekim: w
[21:46] <Alejandritob> w showa logged users
[21:46] <mike-ekim> w just shows me logged in
[21:46] <isleshocky77> Mimi: Know anything about the Display Settings in KDE4  (KUbunutu 8.04) Now working because even if you changes something the apply button never becomes active, and it doesn't ask you to save settings when trying to tleave the page if something has changed.
[21:46] <Jowi> mike-ekim, for that command to work yes. an alternative is that you setup tightvnc and $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[21:47] <curley_sue> mike-ekim: you can run top (or htop) to check which users are running processes
[21:47] <pushpop> is there software that will allow me to convert wma to mp3's and remove DRM's?
[21:47] <mike-ekim> dammit, is there a way toi be able to log in remotely without needing this login
[21:48] <ctrlaltdel> i'm having a little problem with remotly located box running 8.04
[21:48] <Jowi> mike-ekim, with the xstartup file for example you will get a new window manager and desktop setup for you when you connect
[21:48] <mike-ekim> oh
[21:48] <curley_sue> pushpop: for audio convesion you can use soundconverter it is in the repos.
[21:48] <ctrlaltdel> i removed the xen kernel in favor of the stock server kernel
[21:48] <ctrlaltdel> and upon reboot
[21:48] <mike-ekim> and if i launch any programs, once i close that out will the applications die as well
[21:48] <pushpop> thank you
[21:48] <ctrlaltdel> it always comes back with the xen kernel
[21:48] <Jowi> mike-ekim, yes
[21:48] <ctrlaltdel> which does not exist in /boot
[21:48] <mike-ekim> ah
[21:48] <zboy417> have they come out with a fix for the 8.04 nvidia bug? (it won't go about 800x600)
[21:48] <mike-ekim> that works against me again
[21:48] <curley_sue> ﻿NO SOUND problem - hi all, I am running hardy on t61. tried to install HSF modem, no success. after removing the package I seem to have no sound card configured - any ideas?
[21:48] <mike-ekim> this nis what i am trying to do
[21:48] <mike-ekim> i need window manager, cause i have skype that i want to launch
[21:49] <mike-ekim> but need to be able to administer it remotely
[21:49] <Jowi> mike-ekim, but if you disconnect from VNC without logging out first it should be up and running as is.
[21:49] <Ruairidh> mike-ekim: vnc it?
[21:49] <curley_sue> zboy417: tried installing envyng-gtk?
[21:49] <mike-ekim> oh
[21:49] <BoemLauw> http://www.nomachine.com/ ?
[21:49] <mike-ekim> Jowi: would that then start two desktop environments?
[21:49] <zboy417> curley_sue...didn't work
[21:49] <zboy417> messed it up more
[21:49] <mike-ekim> cause i need to keep into consideration the resources as well
[21:50] <curley_sue> zboy417: did you run it?
[21:50] <zboy417> yep
[21:50] <Pady92> J
[21:50] <zboy417> my friend emailed Ubuntu and they said it was a bug
[21:50] <zboy417> and i was wondering if it was fixed in an update
[21:50] <Jowi> mike-ekim, you can also use ssh -X (to launch a graphical app on the remote machine but display it on yours in case the machine you connect from is Linux)
[21:50] <mike-ekim> right but i need to have the applications running as is without killing
[21:51] <Jowi> !vnc | mike-ekim
[21:51] <ubotu> mike-ekim: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:51] <ichat> mike-ekim:  - 2 choices id concidere  either vnc  or   xserv-over-ip
[21:51] <Ademan> mike-ekim: if you want to log into existing sessions you probably want vnc
[21:51] <BoemLauw> Just bumping in the conversation here, but can it be that what you are looking for is somthing like http://www.nomachine.com/ ?
[21:51] <mike-ekim> right
[21:51] <mike-ekim> Ademan: i am having a trouble setting it up though via remote shell
[21:51] <BoemLauw> remote x / fast / free etc
[21:51] <Seba_> Hi, does anyone know a program like MAPLE for ubuntu??
[21:52] <mike-ekim> and i have no physical access to login
[21:52] <zboy417> i have GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[21:52] <zboy417> and ubuntu 8.04
[21:52] <Ademan> mike-ekim: unfortunately i've never used vnc, but i can vouch for freenx, i used it to log into a friend's machine and it was really, really, really fast, i was impressed, i figured it'd be crap (since my connection is crap) but it was good
[21:52] <Slart> Seba_: wxmaxima... or maple.. I think it's available for linux
[21:52] <zboy417> and edgy didn't work
[21:52] <Slart> Seba_: sorry.. vxmaxima
[21:52] <hwilde_> !enter | zboy417
[21:52] <ubotu> zboy417: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:52] <Seba_> nice... thanx, Slart : )
[21:52] <zboy417> sorry
[21:52] <curley_sue> zboy417: I can't tell you. all I can say is that I had it and I fixed it installing envy, running it and playing with the xorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64033/ (attached there)
[21:52] <Ademan> mike-ekim: vnc might be just as fast, i dunno, but as you can tell, freenx impressed me lol
[21:52] <BoemLauw> Ademan: You might want to check out http://www.nomachine.com  (vnc is slowwwww)
[21:53] <curley_sue> can anyone help reinstalling soundcard?
[21:53] <Ademan> BoemLauw: lol, yeah, that's freenx, which i used :-)
[21:53] <Ademan> well
[21:53] <Ademan> freenx is the client i believe
[21:53] <zboy417> is this the only irc chat for ubuntu (or do the developers have one)
[21:53] <BoemLauw> ow, sorry bout that :) Again just bumping in
[21:53] <hwilde_> zboy417, what is your question
[21:54] <Ademan> zboy417: there's a development channel, ones for different languages, one that's celebrating the next release of ubuntu, usually a channel for support for the next ubuntu release etc etc
[21:54] <zboy417> does the nvidia update (update manager) fix the [GeForce2 MX/MX 400 bug
[21:54] <frogscott> question for any takers: best method for transfering a large zip file from a windows OS laptop to my unbuntu pc
[21:54] <zboy417> i have 8.04 that is the next release
[21:54] <BoemLauw> zboy417 why don't you download the drivers from nvidia ?
[21:54] <hwilde_> zboy417, you should definitely get all of the updates.
[21:54] <woodwizzle> #banshee
[21:54] <woodwizzle> oops =)
[21:54] <spanther> lol
[21:55] <oxtailsoup> hi, im installing a ubuntu os on my pc at this moment
[21:55] <oxtailsoup> how big should the swap partition be?
[21:55] <Ademan> frogscott: "best" method would be rsync, "easiest" would probably be samba
[21:55] <hwilde_> oxtailsoup, 2x your ram
[21:55] <zboy417> minimum of 2 GB
[21:55] <frogscott> samba is?
[21:55] <oxtailsoup> thanks
[21:55] <BoemLauw> zboy417.. ^^^
[21:55] <hwilde_> frogscott, just get winscp for your windows device, and scp it over to the linux box
[21:56] <zboy417> boemlauw...what did i do?
[21:56] <BoemLauw> zboy417 why don't you download the drivers from nvidia ?
[21:56] <zboy417> oh...sorry... right now i'm installing the update
[21:56] <Jowi> oxtailsoup, I never used more than 20% of a 512MB swap. depends on what you plan to use the computer for.
[21:56] <frogscott> samba or wnscp? whats easier?
[21:56] <zboy417> btw....i'm new at Ubuntu...so i don't know many of the coding stuff
[21:56] <spanther> BoemLauw: because then with every kernel update he has no 3D acceleration again
[21:56] <mojo> doh!  ubuntu+1 for hardy rc, right?
[21:56] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, should i buy a bmw 1-series coupe or an alfa romeo gt?
[21:56] <whiteeagle> how can I remove KDE, KDE4 and XFCE from my computer
[21:57] <whiteeagle> ?
[21:57] <BoemLauw> ok, but I may be mistaken, but the accel. drivers only come from nvidia. That again it isn't a 9800GX2 offcourse :)
[21:57] <frogscott> neither...buy a Bentley
[21:57] <ikonia> whiteeagle: remove the packages
[21:57] <mojo> Cheesypieces::  buy a hybrid if you can afford those.  be an example, not another vanity victim
[21:57] <ikonia> whiteeagle: same way you do with any packages in the repo
[21:57] <undecim> whiteeagle: sudo aptitude remove <package name>
[21:57] <BoemLauw> spanther thats why you `rerun` the file after you update the kernel :)
[21:57] <whiteeagle> yeah, but which packages ikonia
[21:57] <BoemLauw> Just did
[21:57] <zboy417> for once only...the Edgy NG didn't work
[21:57] <acidBURN> is ubuntu studio a off shot from ubuntu ??
[21:57] <Cheesypieces> frogscott: bentley's a bit out of my league
[21:57] <spanther> BoemLauw: its that easy? :D
[21:57] <oxtailsoup> okay... let's take a look how long installation whil last
[21:57] <ikonia> whiteeagle: anything refereincg kde
[21:57] <spanther> okay *g*
[21:57] <zboy417> edgy always worked on the last version
[21:57] <hwilde_> !studio | acidBURN
[21:57] <ubotu> acidBURN: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[21:57] <Cheesypieces> mojo: i don't like any hybrids
[21:57] <llama_> Hey uh..
[21:57] <frogscott> ok then new Shelby Cobra only 500k
[21:58]  * Pelo wonders why he has two instances of gdm running and if he realy needs tracker
[21:58] <llama_> How do I get my mp3 player to show up so I can add songs?
[21:58] <frogscott> lol
[21:58] <unop> whiteeagle, you could do something like this.   sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -iE "kde|xfce" | cut -c 3-30)
[21:58] <hwilde_> !mp3 | llama_
[21:58] <ubotu> llama_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:58] <Ademan> unop: hahaha
[21:58] <Slart> Pelo: tracker is optional.. it's a desktop search thingy.. like google desktop
[21:58] <BoemLauw> spanther, yeah. Linux sux these days. It used to be hard :)
[21:58] <Cheesypieces> frogscott: i have no idea what that is... i don't think we have them in the uk lol
[21:58] <Pelo> llama_, usb ? just plug it in , it should mount to the desktop automaticaly
[21:58] <unop> Ademan, ??
[21:58] <frogscott> look it up...simply the best car ever made
[21:58] <spanther> BoemLauw:  no it doesnt xD
[21:58] <Tolkien> Hi
[21:59] <Tolkien> Is there anyone here that could maybe help me in PVMSG?
[21:59] <ikonia> Tolkien: people will help you in here
[21:59] <Slart> Pelo: gdm.. that's like kidneys. everyone has two.. noone knows why =)
[21:59] <ikonia> Tolkien: ask your question
[21:59] <oxtailsoup> wow, 2 minutes and already 33%
[21:59] <Ademan> unop: just a rather convoluted solution lol (especially considering there's a switch to auto remove un depended packages iirc)
[21:59] <whiteeagle> unop: thanks!
[21:59] <Pelo> Slart, ;-)
[21:59] <BoemLauw> Remember the RH3.x days.. You have a new video card. GOOD LUCK !
[21:59] <mojo> Cheesypieces::  for what reason?... n/m it's off channel.  i used to want a Mercedes sport coupe and coulda afforded it, but now i have a different view of the world around me and my relationship to it.
[21:59] <zboy417> oxtailsoup: This installs VERY fast
[21:59] <ikonia> !offtopic | BoemLauw
[21:59] <ubotu> BoemLauw: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:59] <runa_> what kind of partitions might this be http://pastebin.com/m237caa98
[21:59] <Tolkien> ikonia: It's kind of a situation and I need to explain it and the chat is moving too fast
[21:59] <spanther> BoemLauw:  i do have geforce8800gt actually now :P
[21:59] <ikonia> Tolkien: keep it breif, and post an overview, use pastebin if you have to
[21:59] <unop> Ademan, i'm really interested if you know of a better way.
[22:00] <BoemLauw> sorry
[22:00] <undecim> Pelo: You can remove tracker, but you will need to run locate -u every once in a while to keep your file searching working
[22:00] <Pelo> Slart, any idea what gnome-at-visuel is ?
[22:00] <whiteeagle> unop: I need to clean my computer so I can make the upgrade to hardy smaller
[22:00] <Tolkien> ikonia: I can't maybe private message you?
[22:00]  * BoemLauw spanther: I got to 8800Ultra's. You should see my glxgears :)
[22:00] <ichat> [question] -    looking for a network enviroment - comparible  to  say  netware or ms Active dir.... -    google mostly just shows all kinds of ways how to set up samba, but i really say - if i would have wanted to keep  MS active dir - i wouldn't atempt to switch to ubuntu... - - what should i look for
[22:00] <spanther> BoemLauw: glxgears lol xD
[22:01] <ikonia> Tolkien: no, as I said, if you give a breif overview, you can also use the pastebin service if you have to
[22:01] <Pelo> undecim, won't it just rescan my FS from scratch when i search ?
[22:01] <unop> whiteeagle, that'll remove all kde and xfce packages, which i suppose is what you want
[22:01] <whiteeagle> unop: exactly
[22:01] <Slart> Pelo: I have no idea.. sounds like either a gui for "at".. or some kind of assistive tech (low vision, hearing imp. etc)
[22:01] <oxtailsoup> okay, 50% now the time is about 4 minutes
[22:01]  * Pelo keeps disabling bluetooth but it keeps comming back 
[22:01] <Openuser> hi, can someone say me if is this a joke or what: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1   ?
[22:01] <runa_> what kind of partitions might this be http://pastebin.com/m237caa98
[22:01] <Slart> Openuser: serious bug, if I remember correctly
[22:02] <undecim> Pelo: I don't know. I figured that was what tracker was for, to keep your file search database up to date
[22:02] <stefg> runa_: looks more like a hosed partition table. you might want to try testdisk if you need to recover datea from that drive
[22:02] <spanther> BoemLauw: well i do get 110285 frames in 5 seconds means 22017,596 FPS  :)
[22:02] <BoemLauw> Pelo, I feel your pain. Same go's with the ISDN service :-)
[22:02] <Slart> Openuser: with a little smile on the side
[22:02] <Tolkien> I installed a fresh, new version of Ubuntu yesterday on my tablet pc notebook, It worked fine. Now whenever I boot it, it loads me into BusyBox - I can only launch into ubuntu through safemode. I have integrated graphics.
[22:02] <Ademan> unop: aptitude --purge-unused    looks useful, lemme look further, but like i said i'm pretty sure there's a switch
[22:02] <Pelo> undecim, for the related tracker applet yes but I don'T expect for old cli commands like locate
[22:03]  * Pelo looks at jockey with murderous intent 
[22:03] <oxtailsoup> btw, I'm from Germany so please excuse my english ;) here it is 11pm right now, whats the time where you're at home?
[22:03] <Openuser> Slart: and it is rated with critical importance mark
[22:03] <Openuser> Slart: xd
[22:03] <BoemLauw> spanther i'll double that AFTER i force it run in split screen SLI :-D
[22:03] <jesselucas> Is it possible to have two groups have different permissions for the same folders/files?
[22:03] <aklen> hi
[22:03] <Pelo> oxtailsoup, there are ppl from the whole world here,  we've got everytime
[22:03] <jrib> jesselucas: sure, with ACLs
[22:03] <Tolkien> ikonia: Question has been asked? :)
[22:03] <oxtailsoup> nice thing ^^
[22:03] <undecim> Pelo: Okay, scratch that. It doesn't make any difference with or without tracker when I search my comp for newly created files
[22:03] <stefg> !permissions | jesselucas
[22:03] <spanther> BoemLauw:  i didn't know linux could handle SLI :)
[22:03] <ubotu> jesselucas: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[22:03] <Pelo> jesselucas, that's waht groups are for
[22:03] <Slart> Openuser: well.. if they can solve that one.. I guess lots of other things will follow.. almost by themselves =)
[22:04] <unop> Ademan, well, i think what you are looking for is something like "apt-get autoremove" but it probably won't work as his kde/xfce packages (and their depends) are still needed
[22:04]  * BoemLauw spanther It should ... right ? lemmie check :)
[22:04] <Openuser> by the way, is enough stable ubuntu rc to use at home?
[22:04] <spanther> BoemLauw: gimmeh 160euro and an SLI board then i have two 8800gt :P
[22:04]  * kindofabuzz gives spanther
[22:05] <spanther> lol
[22:05] <Pelo> Openuser, wait 2days
[22:05] <ikonia> Tolkien: so safemode from the boot menu on your laptop works, but normal boot doesn't
[22:05] <oxtailsoup> me too plz
[22:05] <BoemLauw> It runs sli just fine, but you need nvidia's drivers
[22:05] <unop> Ademan, i don't see it as any different from searching for all packages named 'kde' or 'xfce' in synaptic and then marking them to be removed
[22:05] <rwycuff> Openuser ...wait till thursaday
[22:05] <Tolkien> ikonia: Exactly. it boots me into BusyBox, whatever that is
[22:05] <spanther> BoemLauw: arent these restricred drives linux installs (ubuntu) from nvidia ?
[22:06] <ikonia> Tolkien: you mention the graphics card, what makes you think the graphics card is any relation to the problem ?
[22:06]  * BoemLauw spanther Hey i got mine working as an male escort
[22:06] <Ademan> unop: well i like the idea of removing based on a dependency tree rather than name, since   a ficticious package markdepends would match your 'kde' search and be removed
[22:06] <Openuser> Pelo: :-S ok , let's wait xd
[22:06] <Tolkien> ikonia: NetEcho did :D
[22:06] <NetEcho> ikonia at first when he brought the issue up I thought it might have been a gfx card issue
[22:06] <NetEcho> until I got further information
[22:06] <BoemLauw> spanther dunno, i don't use ubuntu's (I'll go for the closed beta's)
[22:06] <Ademan> unop: i suppose you could probably craft a more specific search, but it's still rather unreliable imho
[22:06] <ikonia> NetEcho: what pointed you at graphics card
[22:06] <unop> Ademan, which is his objective, unless i understood it wrong.
[22:06] <spanther> BoemLauw: but glxgears is a nice burn in test :) my graka fan is noisy xD not loud but i can hear it good :)
[22:07] <NetEcho> ikonia I had a similar issue with safemode and normalmode with my ati card but busybox was not part of the issue
[22:07] <zboy417> what's the 8.04 irc chat again?
[22:07] <zboy417> i had to reboot
[22:07] <spanther> ubuntu+1 ?
[22:07] <Exteris> zboy417, #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <zboy417> thanks
[22:07] <Pelo> Openuser, a few of us got 100meg + of updates today for the RC , we expect that by thuesday we'll probably have had enought updated to amount to a full release,  if you install RC you'll spend the next two days updating anyway, it's not worth it
[22:07] <NetEcho> but he's running a intel chipset gfx
[22:07] <Ademan> unop: i assumed he just wanted to remove kubuntu-desktop and anything it depends on that no longer needs
[22:07] <Styx^> hi
[22:07] <Styx^> I have a big problem
[22:07] <Styx^> big big
[22:08] <Ademan> !ask
[22:08] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:08] <ikonia> Tolkien: thats quite unusual, I wouldn't expect safe mode/normal to react so different.
[22:08] <Styx^> on a server of a friend, I cant do a sudo -s
[22:08] <BoemLauw> Yups, still the mother of all burnins comes with maya :-) No matter how fast you muti-million cluster may be. Maya will bring it DOWN :)
[22:08] <unop> Ademan, but, removing/puring kubuntu-desktop is unlikely to do anything .. not many packages depend on it
[22:08] <Styx^> I cant be root
[22:08] <BoemLauw> cpu/gpu wise
[22:08] <ikonia> Tolkien: would you say your tablet had any sort of unusual hardware in it ?
[22:08] <Tolkien> ikonia: Everything unusual always happens to me.
[22:08] <unop> s/puring/purging/
[22:08] <Tolkien> ikonia: Not really, just the tablet screen and thats about it
[22:08] <NetEcho> ikonia http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Q106/ViperC/1008804sp2.shtml  <-- thats the list of the hardware he has
[22:08] <Pelo> Styx^, don'T be root, it's not your system, be nice and do it on command at a time,  and it's sudo -su
[22:09] <oxtailsoup> Tolkien: don't be sad... Everything unusual always happens to me, too
[22:09] <Pici> Pelo: no, sudo -s is correct.
[22:09] <joaquine> hey everryone
[22:09] <Styx^> no Pelo, you dont understand sorry
[22:09]  * Pelo stands corrected
[22:09] <Ademan> unop: well see that's why it needs to go the other way around, remove everything that ONLY kubuntu-desktop depended on, since that would represent everything that was installed for the sake of kubuntu-desktop
[22:09] <ikonia> Tolkien: I'm guessing (and this is a guess without doing debugging) it's to do with your disk controller, in that it can't see the disks to boot properly
[22:09] <BoemLauw> sudo su - ? :)
[22:09] <Styx^> I know the password
[22:09] <ikonia> BoemLauw: no
[22:10] <compbrain> BoemLauw: sudo -s/sudo -i ftw
[22:10] <Tolkien> ikonia: Ok, so what am I supposed to do?
[22:10] <Ademan> Styx^: only certain users can sudo
[22:10] <Styx^> it is my friend, but, when I enter sudo -s
[22:10] <whiteeagle> Ademan: I don't need any kde or xfce app
[22:10] <Styx^> nothing !!
[22:10] <Pici> Styx^: Is your user in the admin group?
[22:10] <BoemLauw> Damn you, i was wrong all these years :P
[22:10] <Styx^> Ademan: I know, he is in the group admin
[22:10] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:10] <Tolkien> ikonia: If it helps, I have two external harddrives attached, one is always attached to the computer via SD plug.
[22:10] <jhoc2x_> help
[22:10] <Styx^> in the file sudoers
[22:10] <whiteeagle> actually this will remove 907MB from my system
[22:10] <ichat> [question] -    looking for a network enviroment - comparible  to  say  netware or ms Active dir.... -    google mostly just shows all kinds of ways how to set up samba, but i really say - if i would have wanted to keep  MS active dir - i wouldn't atempt to switch to ubuntu... - - what should i look for
[22:10] <ikonia> Tolkien: sd plug ?
[22:10] <Pici> jhoc2x_: You need to ask a question first
[22:10] <jhoc2x_> anyone have this problem?? my screen fixes at 640x480 resolution..
[22:11] <Tolkien> ikonia: For the SD card
[22:11] <ikonia> ooh
[22:11] <Pici> !ldap | ichat
[22:11] <ubotu> ichat: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[22:11] <Styx^> do you understand my problem ?
[22:11]  * Pelo is going to reboot , I knwo I know but I just remove a but load of services 
[22:11] <Styx^> there are no way to be root
[22:11] <ichat> pici -so thats what to look for thanks
[22:11] <Styx^> capi@capix:~$ sudo -s
[22:11] <Styx^> capi@capix:~$
[22:11] <Styx^> just that
[22:11] <undecim> I've been having some problems with my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop recently. Every once in a while, It will completely freeze everything except the mouse. Ctrl+Alt+Backspce, Ctrl+Alt+F1, etc. stop working and I have to either hold down the power button or SysRq+Atl+R,E,I,S,U,B
[22:11] <BoemLauw> ah
[22:11] <beener> how do i hot key the master volume
[22:11] <Ademan> Styx^: you probably already know this, but when you do sudo, you enter your user's account password as opposed to a root password
[22:12] <kadakas> My Bluetooth laser mouse disconnects when im not using it for 30+ minutes. It reconnects like 3-5minutes, so can I just make Ubuntu keep the connection alive forever?
[22:12] <Styx^> I know Ademan
[22:12] <unop> Ademan, maybe, but afaik, there is no easy way to caclulate that tree - except maybe putting 'apt-cache depends ..' through a recursive loop
[22:12] <Styx^> can you see ?
[22:12] <Styx^> capi@capix:~$ sudo -s
[22:12] <Styx^> capi@capix:~$
[22:12] <FloodBot2> Styx^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Styx^> nothing
[22:12] <NetEcho> Styx^ you enter it once per session
[22:12] <ikonia> Tolkien: for me, I'd look at the safe mode kernel options and do a test boot / few, with some of the safe mode options to try to guess what is causing the hardware problem, I would also try issuing "vga=ask" to the kernel boot line to put the framebuffer into multiple modes to make sure the graphics cards are causing issues
[22:12] <jhoc2x_> Pici: i dont know what just happen, after changing setting on wine, my screen is fixed at 680  reso  ..  after playing a game.. i cant change back ro 1024
[22:12] <joaquine> hey  everyone
[22:12] <Styx^> NetEcho: I know
[22:12] <Styx^> but I am not root
[22:12] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: kill the wine app
[22:12] <rwycuff> joaquine:hi
[22:12] <jhoc2x_> i did
[22:12] <Ademan> unop: maybe i'll write a little perl script lol
[22:12]  * BoemLauw ademan unless
[22:13] <BoemLauw> # Defaults targetpw    # ask for the password of the target user i.e. root
[22:13] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: actually, kill all wine apps
[22:13] <BoemLauw> # ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING! Only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw'!
[22:13] <beener> im trying to get my hp media controle to work right in ubunut
[22:13] <dirtbag666> hi there
[22:13] <whiteeagle> !pastebin |
[22:13] <ubotu> : pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:13] <Exteris> Styx^, id -u ?
[22:13] <joaquine> anyyonee no hoow to chaange my typing speed bak
[22:13] <Tolkien> ikonia: I dont understand what you said. I'm technologically disabled
[22:13] <Styx^> 1000
[22:13] <BoemLauw> lol
[22:13] <jhoc2x_> whiteeagle:  i did.. i restarted my system.. still i cant change back to 1024
[22:13] <ikonia> Tolkien: thats not a quick process though, I appriciate I'm sending you down a long road
[22:13] <NetEcho> lol
[22:13] <dirtbag666> is there a good channels for issues with awk or may I ask somebody in here?
[22:13] <unop> Ademan, i've already written a perl script .. but it's overkill really, there really isn't anything wrong with the way i did it, it's been tried and tested quite a few times :)
[22:13] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: what drivers are you using
[22:13] <jhoc2x_> all im can see at the options is 640 down..
[22:13] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: better yet, what g. card do you have
[22:13] <jhoc2x_> glx
[22:14] <Tolkien> ikonia: I have no time
[22:14] <jhoc2x_> whiteeagle: mx4000
[22:14] <BoemLauw> God damn, this channel is on amfetamine
[22:14] <Ademan> unop: lol
[22:14] <Styx^> so ?
[22:14] <Styx^> any solutions ?
[22:14] <Ademan> BoemLauw: lightspeed
[22:14] <acidBURN> 2x of your total ram
[22:14] <ikonia> Tolkien: well, we are stuck thenm
[22:14] <ikonia> then
[22:15]  * Pelo is back to booting under 200 meg
[22:15] <Ademan> bah
[22:15] <BoemLauw> any ubuntu `lounce` channels ? :)
[22:15] <Tolkien> Alrighty
[22:15] <Tolkien> Take care buddy.
[22:15] <Ademan> i've never used swap EVER
[22:15] <beener> how do i make the hp media controls work right they dont play/pause, stop, and volume (though volume works but only the headphones
[22:15] <flagel> if virtualbox is installed, shouldn't it appear in the main Applications menu?
[22:15] <Ademan> the 2x memory rule pretty much falls apart after 1gb ram
[22:15] <Ademan> still good to do
[22:15] <jhoc2x_> how to reset vcard.. or is there a way to restore my settings??? or anything..
[22:15] <BoemLauw> Ademan better don't get involved in 3d then :D
[22:15] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: hmm... I can say I am partly fammiliar with your problem, because that also happened to me, but all I did was reboot, and everything was good after that, Note: I have an ATi card
[22:16] <Ademan> BoemLauw: lol, i don't render, but i develop...
[22:16] <jhoc2x_> whiteeagle: i did reboot 2 times.. hoping it will be gone.. ;)
[22:16] <jhoc2x_> but no luck on that
[22:16] <BoemLauw> Ademan, me to. But with colors :-D
[22:16] <jhoc2x_> whiteeagle: what comman to restart or restore anything?
[22:16] <Styx^> Ademan, Pici, can you help me ? I am deseperate :(
[22:16] <rwycuff> beener: thats gonna be something hardware specific you may wanna google those features with ubuntu and also the funtions would be in your xorg config some place for key setup
[22:17] <jhoc2x_> i even set the appearance to no effects..
[22:17] <jhoc2x_> still no luck
[22:17] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: just reboot from the menu
[22:17] <Nick123> Hello there can someone help me resize a partition in windows so i cn install ubuntu
[22:17] <beener> hm kubuntu set it automaticly.
[22:17] <jhoc2x_> whiteeagle: I did several times..
[22:17] <beener> alright ill google that
[22:17] <kristjans> heya, i have a problem. i have a 19" widescreen monitor, but it is too big. i need a window manager that would use my screen space more optimally, my attention span is not 19" :-(
[22:18] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: I don't know how to help you other than this
[22:18] <Nick123> Hello there can someone help me resize a partition in windows so i cn install ubuntu
[22:18] <whiteeagle> see the !forums
[22:18] <whiteeagle> !forums | jhoc2x_
[22:18] <ubotu> jhoc2x_: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[22:18] <jhoc2x_> sad ... ;(
[22:18] <Ademan> Styx^: can you make a paste of your /etc/group file? (with specific mention of what user you are?
[22:18] <Ademan> !paste
[22:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:18] <whiteeagle> jhoc2x_: I'm sure you'll get a fast answer
[22:18] <BoemLauw> Nick123, why don't you go with vmware instead ?
[22:18] <rwycuff> kristjans: you jsut need to look up how to set xorg resolutions
[22:19] <oxtailsoup> Nick123 start the partition editor from the live CD you wanna install ubuntu from
[22:19] <Nick123> boemlauw: vmware?
[22:19] <Styx^> Ademan: http://pastebin.com/d56562fdc
[22:19] <Styx^> my user is capi
[22:19] <Nick123> oxtailsoup: it jut froze up
[22:19] <BoemLauw> the whole `resize ntfs` thing is as stable as charles manson on crack. Be aware
[22:19] <jhoc2x_> before.. last year i have same kind but not exactly same problem.. some guys told me how to edit the config file.. i dont recall the how to's...
[22:20]  * BoemLauw Nick123 or another `virtual` tool
[22:20] <LainIwakura> Are the forums down?
[22:20] <Ademan> Styx^: that looks like /etc/passwd not /etc/group
[22:20] <Styx^> oh, sorry
[22:20] <arooni_> i'm looking for software that lets me turn a couple of shorter characters into several paragraphs (macro type thing) within firefox at least (and other apps would be awesome, but its not required).  i'm running ubuntu gutsy, and have already checked addons.mozilla.org ... ideas?
[22:20] <whiteeagle> LainIwakura: yeah, sometimes there are because of the "upgrade" to newer vbulletin
[22:20] <Ademan> Styx^: no problem
[22:20] <andre_pl> i've seen posts on using setterm to disable console-blanking, but how can I make this change permanent?
[22:20] <LainIwakura> whiteeagle: Okay, thanks.
[22:20] <Pelo> jhoc2x_, can you restate your problem for me ?
[22:21] <whiteeagle> more like a downgrade if you're asking me
[22:21] <Styx^> http://pastebin.com/m3bf35c59
[22:21] <koro> I have a problem with the system->preferences->sound menu
[22:21] <koro> when i click on "help" it seems that the info that shows up describes a completely different window
[22:21] <Ademan> By the way, I should mention that everyone should be stocking up on packages today, the ubuntu servers are going to be overwhelmed for probably a week after hardy releases, so download your stuff NOW!
[22:21] <mlst> can i format ubuntu 8.04 on PATA HDD ?
[22:21] <koro> it talks about "general", "sound events" and "system bell" tabs
[22:21] <Nick123> boemlauw: vmware?
[22:22] <ikonia> delta94
[22:22] <BoemLauw> Nick123 yeah, www.vmware.com
[22:22] <koro> when what i see is "devices", "sounds" and " system beep"  tabs
[22:22] <Pelo> koro,  there might not be a help page for that specific tab
[22:22] <koro> anyone gets the same?
[22:22] <ikonia> open22
[22:22] <koro> Pelo: it is clearly a help page for a tab analogous to the one i'm seeing, except that different
[22:22] <Nick123> boemlauw: does it resize partitions
[22:22] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: i think im in safe mode or something
[22:22] <koro> this seems to be some kind of mistake, as if the tab was from an old version (or the help file was from an old version)
[22:22] <Pelo> koro, it is possibly that it has not been updated yet
[22:23] <koro> can someone confirm that they get the same thing?
[22:23] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: just like in windows xp.. when i go to safe mode, i can only choose a lower screen resolutions..
[22:23] <koro> i'm on gutsy btw
[22:23] <Pelo> jhoc2x_, what's your video card ?
[22:23] <BoemLauw> Nick123 now, but thats why I asked. Do you `really` want to do that. Just for installing linux. Is it an option for you to install linux as a virtual ? If not. Skip it.
[22:23] <sploby> Could some one help me with dual monitor, It seen to not work with me
[22:23] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: geforce mx4000
[22:23] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: an hour ago, it was working fine
[22:23] <Pelo> jhoc2x_,  did you install the restricted driver ?
[22:24] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: yes i did.. infact i played several windows game.. resoulution 1024x768
[22:24] <sploby> where do i get
[22:24] <Pelo> jhoc2x_, go in meny < system < admin < restricted driver   see if it is still being used
[22:24] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: ok..
[22:24] <koro> additionally, the sound options don't seem to be working properly
[22:24] <Styx^> Ademan: http://pastebin.com/m3bf35c59 solution ?
[22:25] <Nick123> boemlauw: o i see what it is
[22:25] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: check... all green.. in use..
[22:25] <sploby> Yes, but every time i fix in there i can't log in anymore
[22:25] <Nick123> anyone know how to resize partitons in windows
[22:25] <Pelo> !sound > koro check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[22:25] <koro> i have " play system sounds" enabled, but i don't get any except the logon/logoff sounds
[22:25] <Pelo> jhoc2x_, gforce is ati right ?
[22:25] <oxtailsoup> Nick123 resize it with the linux live CD
[22:25] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: no.. im afraid not
[22:25] <woj> gn8
[22:25] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: geforce is geforce..
[22:26] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: Ati is their counterpart.
[22:26] <Nick123> oxtailsoup: it forze up
[22:26]  * milia se kana 8wro or so
[22:26] <koro> Pelo: thanks but i have none of those problems
[22:26] <Ademan> Styx^: i'm asking around, one moment
[22:26] <Nick123> oxtailsoup: said it was goign to take very long time
[22:26] <Styx^> Ademan: I have found
[22:26] <BoemLauw> Nick123 What windows are we talking about ? resising vista ntfs can results in psychotic aggressive behavior.
[22:26] <Nick123> boemlauw: xp
[22:26] <BoemLauw> ok
[22:26] <Styx^> friends on #ubuntu-fr have found
[22:26] <Styx^> admin:x:111:capi:styx
[22:26] <Pelo> jhoc2x_, ok try this, open a terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ,  let it autodetect , always leave the default answers unless you abslutely know better , then restart X
[22:26] <Styx^> here, the syntax
[22:27] <Pelo> jhoc2x_,  I mean I beleive that ati is the manufacturer,  but nvm
[22:27] <jhoc2x_> Pelo: ok.. i'll do that.. thanks..
[22:27] <oxtailsoup> Nick123 is the xp installed on  the partition you wanna make smaller?
[22:27] <Nick123> oxtailsoup: yep
[22:27] <scorp123> Hi all
[22:28] <scorp123> Sorry if this has been asked before ... Does anyone know what's wrong with the Ubuntu Forums?
[22:28] <Ademan> Styx^: i dunno what's wrong, one possibility is that admin is not specified as being able to sudo within /etc/sudoers
[22:28] <Odd-rationale> scorp123: it is being updated...
[22:28] <oxtailsoup> mh, i don't think, that you can do this with windows xp running
[22:28] <Styx^> Ademan: it is just the syntax
[22:28] <Ademan> Styx^: ah k
[22:28] <Styx^> Ademan: admin:x:111:capi:styx
[22:28]  * BoemLauw Nick123 Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfsresize
[22:28] <sploby> what is the sudo code to install the ATI drivers?
[22:28] <Balkan> selam
[22:28] <Styx^> now, I have f....
[22:29] <scorp123> Odd-rationale: ah, OK ... that explains why the web site is not reachable. Thank you.
[22:29] <Ademan> Styx^: ah instead of a comma?
[22:29] <Styx^> am*
[22:29] <Pelo> scorp123, they got an owerhaul yesterday,  aren't they fine now ?  try crtl+f5  to force clear your cache
[22:29] <jhoc2x_> ok.. i'll have to restar now.. brb
[22:29] <Styx^> i dont understand sorry what you say
[22:29] <acidBURN> have they fix the flash problem with firefox
[22:29] <Nick123> oxtailsoup: dam
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> scorp123: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2008/04/ubuntu-forums-upgraded/
[22:29] <oxtailsoup> okay, the installation of ubuntu was completet, but when i reboot, Grub is now saying Error 17 and i can't start windows or ubuntu
[22:29] <scorp123> Pelo: I tried from multiple locations / multiple computers / multiple providers .... I am sure it isn't my cache ;)
[22:29] <BoemLauw> acidBURN. With THEY you mean macromedia ? :)
[22:29] <acidBURN> yes , adobe
[22:30] <acidBURN> there where several sites, that could not be view due to a older flash mod
[22:30] <BoemLauw> No, as expected. 32bit firefox on 64bit os will do
[22:31] <koro> So, could someone using gutsy gibbon try and go to system->preferences->sound and check if the help page that you get when you click on " help" describes something different than what you see?
[22:31] <koro> in particular, do you get a " general sound preferences" tab in there?
[22:31] <koro> 'cos it seems that i need that tab to configure what i want, but it's not showing up
[22:31] <djzn> why are there still people doing a /boot partition separately from /
[22:31] <oxtailsoup> can you help me? my GRUB shows Error 17 before I can choose the OS (installed is Ubuntu and Windows XP)
[22:31] <scorp123> djzn: because it's desirable to have that ... at least for me it is.
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> djzn: becuase in the old days, the boot partition needed to be first...
[22:32] <djzn> Odd-rationale: that means, it is no no longer required... just like the "rule of thumb" which says swap should be 2*RAM
[22:32]  * BoemLauw djzn Because linux can't boot from  XFS 
[22:33] <SidToner> heylo
[22:33] <scorp123> djzn: for servers that would still be true ;)
[22:33] <Odd-rationale> djzn: the second is still a good rule if you plan to suspend to disk...
[22:33] <pinksoviet> Erm, would this be the right place to ask for help about sysfs?
[22:33]  * BoemLauw loves to explain that at work. That whould be a 128GB swapfile !
[22:33] <djzn> the other day I did a test
[22:33] <remu> hey all, is the forum down?
[22:33] <scorp123> remu: yes.
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> remu: it is being updated
[22:34] <scorp123> remu: I just asked the same :)
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> remu: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2008/04/ubuntu-forums-upgraded/
[22:34] <koro> i'm like, pleeease, someone :( it's just a matter of 2 clicks, do you have "general sound preferences" tab under system->preferences->sound or not?
[22:34] <SidToner> i just installed a new video card in 8.04 and tried to reconfigure xorg.conf but it skips over the video card part and only does the keyboard stuff... any ideas how to do it the usual way?
[22:34] <remu> scorp123: lol, thanks
[22:34] <koro> i want to know if something is broken in my install or this is a general problem
[22:34] <remu> Odd-rationale: thanks
[22:34] <djzn> i loaded 20 windows of firefox, 18 windows from OpenOffice.org, opened Brasero, editors, I think I actually opened almost all applications in ubuntu and left it open, then I checked with "free"... the swap was 98 bytes...!!LOL LOL
[22:35] <scorp123> koro: don't know what you mean
[22:35] <koro> scorp123: i need someone to check in their system->preferences-> sound menu
[22:35] <pinksoviet> I can't get my sysfsutils to start up at boot, but oddly enough it does start up at boot if Ubuntu does a disk check... is there any way to rectify the problem?
[22:35] <Whosrodney> sorry if this has been asked been before, but is the repo server down?
[22:35] <scorp123> djzn: how much RAM do you have in that system then?
[22:35] <koro> i want to know if they see a "general sound preferences" tab in that menu
[22:35]  * BoemLauw koro I do
[22:35] <djzn> scorp123: 2GB of RAM
[22:35] <koro> BoemLauw: are you on gutsy?
[22:35] <ramis> hello guys....i need some help with postfix on gutsy........
[22:35] <oxtailsoup> does anyone know what GRUB Error 17 means?
[22:35] <scorp123> koro: yes?
[22:35] <koro> damn... wth is wrong with my system then
[22:35] <tony_> Can anybody tell me if Ubuntu forum is down?
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> tony_: yes http://www.mikesplanet.net/2008/04/ubuntu-forums-upgraded/
[22:36] <ramis> yes it is down for update
[22:36] <scorp123> koro: What's the problem?
[22:36] <koro> scorp123: i don't see that tab
[22:36] <scorp123> djzn: same here @home
[22:36] <koro> in fact i don't see any of the tabs described in the help file
[22:36] <Whosrodney> is the repo server also down?
[22:36] <scorp123> djzn: but at work we have 8 GB RAM per machine and more.
[22:36] <Whosrodney> i'm getting weird errors when update
[22:36] <koro> i see "devices" "sounds" and "system beep"
[22:36] <BoemLauw> No the hardy, but under gutsy i had it as well
[22:36] <SidToner> did something change in 8.04 to make reconfigure xorg.conf not work right ?
[22:36] <djzn> scorp123: even with suspend-to-disk.... it wouldn't be 2GB needed at all ????
[22:36] <tony_> Thanks
[22:36] <samu> oxtailsoup: it means you are trying to access an invalid device driver
[22:36] <zvacet>   oxtailsoup :                 http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#17
[22:37] <koro> BoemLauw: oh maybe it's a hardy thing
[22:37] <scorp123> koro: are you sure you are not following some old instructions or something? Sometimes the look of a program will change between releases.
[22:37] <Whosrodney> anybody?
[22:37] <Whosrodney> having errors when doing aptitude update?
[22:37] <ramis> guys, my mail.log is getting full too fast.....i only have like 10 email accounts as very light users....
[22:37] <scorp123> koro: e.g. some progs looked differently in old Ubuntu releases than they look now
[22:37] <remu> sorry to poll people here, but other than pidgin, what would you say is one of the better irc clients for ubuntu (when i say better, i mean, faster, less resource intensive, yet "pretty" (meaning functional and not fugly))
[22:37] <zvacet> Whosrodney :  what kind of errors?
[22:37] <Ryanhedge> Hello can anyone point me to a list of compatible MP3 players that work on Linux
[22:38] <koro> scorp123: i'm not following instructions, i just go to system->preferences->sound and i see diffferent things than what is described in the help section of that very window
[22:38] <scorp123> koro: if you are following some instructions or something and they are too old, chances are that what you see will not be the same what is described in the "how to" or whatever text you are reading.
[22:38] <Whosrodney> zvacet: Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Translation-en_US
[22:38] <Whosrodney> zvacet: Connection failed
[22:38] <Whosrodney> zvacet: 99% [5 Translation-en_US bzip2 0] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[22:38] <Whosrodney> zvacet: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Connection faile
[22:39] <koro> scorp123: i'm just trying to see why i'm not getting the system sounds (like checkboxes and such things). I *do* have working sound, i even get the logon/logoff sounds properly, but not the sounds from clicking checkboxes and such stuff
[22:39] <DanikarPN> Ryanhedge: Look in Add/Remove programs
[22:39] <SidToner> i'm trying to install a new video card with 8.04 installed tried reconfiguring xorg by using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; and it doesn't work right... any ideas?
[22:39] <zvacet> Whosrodney : i tried sec ago and it is working.I mean it is not down.
[22:39] <Odd-rationale> Ryanhedge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices
[22:39]  * mojo is away: Away
[22:39] <Ryanhedge> No I mean as in an Ipod or Usb MP3 player not software.
[22:39] <Ryanhedge> Oh thanks Odd.
[22:39] <koro> when i click on "help" under system->preferences->sound, i see a description of things that are not in that window (for example they talk about a " general sound preferences" tab which i'm not seeing)
[22:39]  * BoemLauw koro What is ? 
[22:39] <DanikarPN> Ryanhedge: sorry about that =)
[22:40] <Odd-rationale> Ryanhedge: although not listed, my choice would be a cowon
[22:40] <scorp123> koro: sudo apt-get install esound libesd-alsa0 libsdl1.2debian-all
[22:40] <Ryanhedge> cowon?
[22:40]  * BoemLauw loking
[22:40] <pinksoviet> Cowon!
[22:40] <pinksoviet> Their D2's are nice..
[22:40] <SidToner> ok
[22:40] <scorp123> koro: and make sure "ESD" is selected as sound system
[22:40] <zvacet> Whosrodney : In system<admin>software sources chanfe server to main
[22:40] <SidToner> let me try this another way... how would you reccomend installing a new video card?
[22:41] <koro> scorp123: ok i'm trying that
[22:41] <zvacet>  *change
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> Ryanhedge: http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/ cowon's products can be used just like a portable flashdrive in linux
[22:41] <Ryanhedge> Good.
[22:41] <scorp123> koro: don't worry about the messages you will get about removing packages and stuff ... everything will be fine in the end.
[22:41] <BoemLauw> hmmm
[22:41] <Whosrodney> zvacet: ok
[22:41] <SidToner> i hate you all
[22:42] <guja_nebeska> What's with ubuntuforums.org ?
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> Ryanhedge: plus it is one of the few that supports flac and ogg natively!
[22:42] <BoemLauw> SidToner Cool :)
[22:42] <Ruairidh> guja_nebeska?
[22:42] <zvacet> Whosrodney Meaning it is working now or what
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> guja_nebeska: updated
[22:42] <scorp123> guja_nebeska: software update
[22:42] <Ruairidh> They're pretty nice
[22:42] <guja_nebeska> Ruairidh, can't find server.
[22:42] <guja_nebeska> Won't load page.
[22:42] <Ruairidh> Though the categories can be kinda overwhelming
[22:42] <Ruairidh> Oh?
[22:42] <seamus7> How can I get Twhirl and Pidgin to open links in Firefox again .. what should I do to get them reconnected in that way?
[22:42]  * Ruairidh tries
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> guja_nebeska: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2008/04/ubuntu-forums-upgraded/
[22:42] <agibby5> in everyones opinion, is it safe to install Hardy on a daily used 7.10 computer today?  I'm dying to get some of the features...
[22:42] <scorp123> guja_nebeska: software update. They are updating the forum. That's why.
[22:43] <Ruairidh> Ah yeah
[22:43] <Ryanhedge> Do all the models work?
[22:43] <SidToner> BoemLauw: just trying to get what should be a simple question answered... or at least someone say that they haven't a clue
[22:43] <BoemLauw> apt-get install linuxlogo (Best tool ever created !)
[22:43] <guja_nebeska> When it's going to be done?
[22:43] <guja_nebeska> Update.
[22:43] <Whosrodney> agibby5: I wouldn't
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> Ryanhedge: i beleive so...
[22:43] <Ruairidh> guja_nebeska: I'd imagine 2 hours max?
[22:43] <scorp123> guja_nebeska: see the link that was given to you
[22:43] <guja_nebeska> Okay.
[22:43] <Ruairidh> Though I don't have any official word :p
[22:43] <guja_nebeska> Thanks.
[22:43] <agibby5> Whosrodney: reason?
[22:43] <BoemLauw> SidToner i'm sorry, must have overlooked it. Can you ask it again. (I ain't browsing this chan)
[22:43] <NW2190> Hi, does anyone know how to use a .debdiff file?
[22:43] <SidToner> i'm trying to install a new video card with 8.04 installed tried reconfiguring xorg by using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; and it doesn't work right... any ideas?
[22:43] <BoemLauw> Hit me
[22:43] <pinksoviet> Could anybody help me with sysfsutils? It wont start up on boot... or when Ubuntu loads, that is.
[22:43] <tawt> how do i register my nick?
[22:44] <Whosrodney> agibby5: I've had bad luck before when I upgraded too early
[22:44] <Ruairidh> Do /ns register password
[22:44] <scorp123> SidToner: what video card is that?
[22:44] <Odd-rationale> !register | tawt
[22:44] <Bucky> I'm having some trouble with slow X forwarding (e.g. ssh -Y host firefox). Anyone else experience this in the last few versions (7x 8x) and know a solution?
[22:44] <BoemLauw> SidToner What type of video card are we talking about ?
[22:44] <SidToner> radeon 9550
[22:44] <ubotu> tawt: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[22:44] <eimajentha1> Hello, I need to setup a file server (samba, ftp, http, rsync), with a software RAID0 configuration on IDE drives.  Would prefer no GUI.  Am I better off with the alternate install CD, or the server install CD?
[22:44] <seamus7> agibby5: I think what's available now is pretty much the final product minus a few last minute updates .. of course no one can guarantee how your system will react .. but my laptop is working smoothly since I upgraded two days ago
[22:44] <agibby5> Whosrodney: i already have hardy on a test computer that I use... but didn't know if it was wise to put on my daily use computer.  its only 2 days out...
[22:44] <agibby5> seamus7: exactly... thats what i was thinking since we're only about 2 days from release
[22:44] <scorp123> SidToner: and what was the previous card?
[22:44] <Whosrodney> agibby5: your choice
[22:44] <BoemLauw> Bucky you got your DNS resolving right on the boxes ?
[22:44] <agibby5> Whosrodney: true, tru
[22:44] <agibby5> Whosrodney: true, true**
[22:45] <Bucky> Yes.
[22:45] <SidToner> BoemLauw: radeon 9550 not a great card but i'm getting about 100% cpu usage just displaying a window... it was a 9200
[22:45] <koro> scorp123: this doesn't seem to be what i need
[22:45] <koro> my sound works just fine
[22:45] <koro> alsa works prefectly
[22:45] <seamus7> agibby5: I like to get it a few days early cause the day of release is a major headache when downloading
[22:45] <BoemLauw> SidToner ai... Me not ati owning. However, why don't you download the driver/installer from ati ?
[22:45] <agibby5> true, good point...
[22:45] <koro> i have a problem with the context menus displaying different things than what they should be displaying
[22:45] <BoemLauw> Their drivers are closed, but hey. They are FAST like they should be
[22:45] <scorp123> SidToner: so it was a radeon too? Hmmm ... I would suppose it should "just work" because it uses the same driver?
[22:45] <zvacet> seamus7 :does it have to be first day of release?
[22:46] <RodGo> if i am a blogger who just moved to ubuntu, what is the best rss feed reader you recommend me to use?
[22:46] <Bucky> It's more of a general thing when connecting to my Ubuntu machines (multilpe boxes in multiple places running various X servers). I'm thinking there is a configuration issue on my end, but I've not found it.
[22:46] <agibby5> seamus7: i'm gonna move my /home directory, etc... and try to upgrade tonight.   if i upgrade  using online sources rather than burning a cd, is that the same as downloading the rc iso?
[22:46] <SidToner> BoemLauw: usually the one installed automatically works best... at least for me in the past... that's why iwas trying to just do the auto reconfigure
[22:46] <zvacet> agibby5 yes
[22:46] <seamus7> zvacet: yes if you're unable to be adult about the whole thing
[22:46] <agibby5> zvacet: figured...
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> RodGo: I really like akregator, lifera didn;t quite cut it for me...
[22:47] <ianliu_88> Do someone use wxMaxima here?
[22:47] <RodGo> where can i see instructions to install it?
[22:47] <eimajentha1> Hello, I need to setup a file server (samba, ftp, http, rsync), with a software RAID0 configuration on IDE drives.  Would prefer no GUI.  Am I better off with the alternate install CD, or the server install CD?
[22:47] <BoemLauw> SidToner that isn't true. It works, but thats all it does. No accel. Your eye candy comes are a price.
[22:47] <mlst> Can i instal ubuntu 8.04 on pata hdd ???
[22:47] <zvacet> seamus7 : sorry don´ understand
[22:47] <RodGo> am using gnome
[22:47] <RodGo> can i install it anyway?
[22:47] <BoemLauw> Don't be afraid to try their drivers. My mom can do it. (I think)
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> RodGo: search synaptic for akgregator.
[22:47] <Bucky> When I say slow response I'm referring to X painting slowly (ssh -Y host firefox). Even xclock is slow.
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> RodGo: or just search for rss to see all rss news feeder...
[22:48] <SidToner> BoemLauw: no eye candy needed... nothing fancy ... trying to get this to work as a media center pc... playing movie files mostly... but i will give that a try... thanks
[22:48] <seamus7> zvacet: those of us who cant' delay gratification MUST upgrade to Hardy asap
[22:48] <BoemLauw> Bucky are you on a LAN or WAN ?
[22:48] <BoemLauw> movie files without accel = CPU intensive
[22:48] <beener> anyone here have a hp pvailion lappy?
[22:48] <BoemLauw> But hey, you're box. You're call
[22:48] <koro> ubuntuforums is down?
[22:49] <BoemLauw> I had one
[22:49] <Bucky> Currently LAN, but both are slow.
[22:49] <zvacet> seamus7 :O.K.
[22:49] <ianliu_88> I am trying to apt-get install build-essential, but Ubuntu is requesting me to put the CD-ROM. Why he can't get from Web??
[22:49] <SidToner> BoemLauw: i am going to try the regular driver... thanks again
[22:49] <beener> im lookin but i cant figure how to get the media controls to work
[22:49] <SidToner> BoemLauw: the one you reccomended that is
[22:49] <mlst> Can i instal ubuntu 8.04 on pata hdd ???
[22:49] <SidToner> mlst: yes
[22:49] <BoemLauw> X is a SLOW protocol. but in a lan it should work `normal` hmm
[22:49] <seamus7> agibby5: I upgraded via the update manager .. some people would rather download the iso and do complete fresh install .. but my upgrade went well so I just took that route since it was a lot easier
[22:50] <BoemLauw> SidToner I'll look it up for you. Hang tight
[22:50] <SidToner> mlst:  that is what i'm doing now
[22:50] <agibby5> seamus7: that's what i did on my test machine... no issues
[22:50] <SidToner> BoemLauw: no prob i'll just use the restricted driver installer :)
[22:50] <BoemLauw> This release of the ATI Catalyst. Linux driver introduces early look support for Ubuntu 8.04 which is also known as Hardy Heron.
[22:50] <Starnestommy> ianliu_88: go to System > Administration > Software Sources then tell it to not use the cdrom
[22:50] <BoemLauw> http://core.tweakers.net/meuktracker/17563/ati-catalyst-linux-display-driver-84.html
[22:50] <Ryanhedge> Thanks for the help
[22:50] <zvacet> ianliu_88  : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and put # in front of line cdrom ( I think it is first one).Save and close. sudo apt-get update
[22:50]  * BoemLauw SidToner Thats a waste of GPU power my friend. 
[22:50] <pinksoviet> Sorry if I'm repeating my question too much, but does anybody have a way to make sysfsutils start at boot? It's for my trackpoint configuration, and I really don't want to type sudo /etc/init.d/sysfsutils start in terminal every time I start Ubuntu.
[22:51] <koro> ok i just found a post saying that the problem of sound preferences not matching the help file is a general problem in gutsy
[22:51] <Speedy> pinksoviet,  yes
[22:51] <Speedy> easy
[22:51] <SidToner> BoemLauw: that's not same driver? oh damn
[22:51] <pinksoviet> Oh?
[22:51] <Bucky> ssh -Y forwarding of Eclipse is faster under Ubuntu 6 than Ubuntu 8 on considerably better hardware
[22:51] <seamus7> agibby5: I did make the mistake of choosing to keep my old menu.lst during the upgrade and ended up using the old kernel .. didn't realize it at first until I noticed the compiz effects were buggy .. I updated grub to the new kernel and all was smooth again :)
[22:51] <BoemLauw> SidToner no, it's ATI's
[22:51] <Speedy> pinksoviet, you can use a small bash script and tell the sessions manager to run it at boot
[22:52] <Twi|ighT> ssh -Y? is that like ssh -X?
[22:52] <pinksoviet> Forgive me, but I'm not familiar with a bash script.
[22:52] <Bucky> Yes
[22:52] <Twi|ighT> Bucky, ?
[22:52] <SidToner> BoemLauw: getting the ati one now
[22:52] <pinksoviet> For some odd reason, sysfsutils DOES start at boot whenever Ubuntu conducts a disk check, but only then... oddly enough.
[22:52] <WhoNeedszzz> Hello all, I have an HP Pavillion dv 6000 series laptop and am trying to install ubuntu. It comes up saying about running in low-graphics mode and if i continue it fails. How do I configure it properly; I don't know what to select for the monitor and such.
[22:53]  * BoemLauw SidToner thank me later when your desktop changes into a 24 style CTU workstation 
[22:53] <Bucky> We have a few people at the office that prefer Ubuntu, and I run a few Ubuntu servers in production. Lately I've spent more time usng ssh X11 forwarding and I'm noticing a performance difference between Ubuntu 6 and 7 or 8.
[22:53] <zvacet> WhoNeedszzz : hit F1 and start from there
[22:53] <SidToner> BoemLauw: lol thanks... it's an older card but i hope it will do
[22:53] <WhoNeedszzz> zvacet: ?
[22:54] <Speedy> pinksoviet,
[22:54] <Speedy> #!/bin/bash
[22:54] <Speedy> /etc/init.d/sysfsutils
[22:54] <Speedy> save that and make it executable
[22:54] <alexissoft> hi
[22:54] <remu> WhoNeedszzz: I have a dv2700, its similar I believe, but a smaller screen, I had this problem when trying to install from the livecd, however the livecd wouldnt boot up, so i used the alternate cd to install, and then the nvidia drivers were installed from the restricted drivers once i booted into the new install
[22:54] <Speedy> then tell the session manager to run it at book
[22:54] <Speedy> *boot
[22:54] <Twi|ighT> Bucky, that must be related to X
[22:54] <FloodBot2> Speedy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <pinksoviet> Ah, okay.
[22:54] <alexissoft> i've just installed kubuntu on my brand new xps m1530
[22:54] <alexissoft> and
[22:54] <alexissoft> hoooooooo
[22:54] <alexissoft> the x86_64 repos are nearly empty
[22:54] <BoemLauw> Still, the 9800 drivers from ati are about 8000 times faster then the `boring` ones
[22:54] <pinksoviet> Thank you in advance!
[22:54] <alexissoft> mencoder doesn't exist
[22:54] <Twi|ighT> it seems sytrange though
[22:54] <FloodBot2> alexissoft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <alexissoft> FloodBot2: THANKS !
[22:54] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, oh ok. u didn't install the nvidia binary?
[22:54] <zvacet> WhoNeedszzz : when you boot you can press F1 for help and then see what you can do with graphic
[22:54] <alexissoft> and so libfaac
[22:54] <Speedy> pinksoviet,  you might wanna make the file your executing executable by your user rather than just root aswell
[22:54] <alexissoft> and so on
[22:54] <Odd-rationale> alexissoft: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[22:55] <alexissoft> Odd-rationale: np
[22:55] <pinksoviet> Okay then.
[22:55] <alexissoft> Odd-rationale: i have universe/multiverse throug
[22:55] <WhoNeedszzz> zvacet: ah
[22:55] <Slart> alexissoft: I'm almost certain the repos aren't anywhere near empty.. at least not the ones I'm using
[22:55] <remu> WhoNeedszzz: I just installed the alternate, then when I booted into ubuntu the first time, I went in with the lowgraphics thing, then installed the nvidia driver from the restricted drivers manager
[22:55] <yowshi> hmmm i need a burner better then k3b
[22:55] <alexissoft> http://rafb.net/p/gmYthp95.html
[22:55] <DanikarPN> Does anyone know if the special function keys on keyboards work with ubuntu well? I am thinking about getting a new keyboard, but want to make sure I can get all the features to work
[22:56] <alexissoft> when i mean the repos are empty
[22:56] <Bucky> At first I thought it was related to my local X server (e.g. either Cygwin or X-Win32) but I'm getting the same repaint issue under Ubuntu 7.10 when connecting to my newly built 8.04 beta machine.
[22:56] <alexissoft> that some important software doesn't exist
[22:56] <yowshi> k3b isnt handling the burning i need it cant burn .img files or apparent bin/cue files and such
[22:56] <alexissoft> because they are built for amd64
[22:56] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, ok but i just heard that the restricted driver isn't as good
[22:56] <alexissoft> and not x86_64
[22:56] <yowshi> anyone know of a better burner?
[22:56] <Slart> yowshi: gnome-baker, brasero are two... I use brasero myself
[22:56] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, i use the binary on my desktop
[22:56] <yowshi> for amd64
[22:56] <alexissoft> (and x86_64 > amd64)
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> alexissoft: is that the whole thing?
[22:56] <alexissoft> yes
[22:56] <yowshi> Slart: tried brasero it couldnt do it
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> alexissoft: you seem to be missing some repos... Did it come that way?
[22:56] <Slart> alexissoft: is there a difference? I thought amd64 was to be used for all 64bit cpus..
[22:57] <remu> WhoNeedszzz: oh okay, I've been using the restricted, and its worked best and easiest for me, allows me to play most of the games i want and everything, i had one laptop with a geforce go 6150, and now mine is the 8400m
[22:57] <Slart> !amd64
[22:57] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[22:57] <alexissoft> Slart: no, i have a core2duo here
[22:57]  * BoemLauw Slart not `all` 
[22:57] <alexissoft> which is EMT64
[22:57] <alexissoft> and AMD64 and EMT64 are x86_64 based
[22:57] <guja_nebeska> ubuntuforums started working again.
[22:57] <guja_nebeska> Just to let u know.
[22:57] <alexissoft> this is the gcd of the two :)
[22:57] <remu> WhoNeedszzz: the restricted one is not open-source, but it works better and easier than anything else ive seen
[22:57] <yowshi> Slart: brasero cant find the .img file even though it is in the same directory as the .cue file
[22:57] <jhoc2x> hey..!! im back.. thanks it work.. i have manage to get back at higher resolution.. thanks..
[22:57] <RoAkSoAx> alex-weej, EMT64 are Intel Processors that support OSs of 64bit
[22:58] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, yeah the m is really messed up, they altered it and thus need there own drivers
[22:58] <alexissoft> i know
[22:58] <alexissoft> i'm on 64bit here
[22:58] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, i hate it
[22:58] <alexissoft> but EMT64 doesn't support AMD64 because EMT64 is intel and AMD64 is AMD
[22:58] <_elemental> what does /etc really stand for, not et cetera... but.....
[22:58] <remu> WhoNeedszzz: what video card do you have?
[22:58] <Odd-rationale> _elemental: yes, et cetera... :)
[22:58] <Slart> alexissoft: are you really really really sure about this.. I thought all 64-bit cpus used the amd64 version..
[22:58] <alexissoft> x86_64 is the GCD of EMT64 and AMD64, so if mencoder is built for the amd64 architecture, the emt64 users will miss it
[22:58]  * BoemLauw remu, why run a restricted driver for your video card ? It's like buying a ferrari with mud flaps 
[22:58] <Starnestommy> _elemental: that's that it stands for
[22:58] <Illbiteyournose> can anyone help me out with dvd playback issue?
[22:58] <RoAkSoAx> alexissoft, nobody saud that AMD64 supported EMT64
[22:58] <alexissoft> ah ok
[22:58] <WhoNeedszzz> remu, can't remember offhand
[22:58] <alexissoft> so i can tell apt to force using amd64 repos
[22:59] <Slart> yowshi: is the path correct in the cue file?
[22:59] <remu> BoemLauw: im new to linux (4 months or so) and the restricted was the easiest for me
[22:59] <_elemental> Odd-rationale, Starnestommy: know where I can find that documented?  I got a bet ridding on this... :)
[22:59] <RoAkSoAx> alexissoft, both, amd64 and emt64 are fully supported, so you shouldn't have any probs
[22:59] <prakriti> has anybody tried getting Rhythmbox to work with a UPnP server?
[23:00] <prakriti> I installed all the py modules the "DLNA/UPnP Sharing and controll support" plugin needed
[23:00] <remu> BoemLauw: is there a better way to install the nvidia drivers? i'd love to try it out if there is
[23:00] <prakriti> but I cant see any servers, or even hit the configure button
[23:00] <Exlax> is there any way to control fanspeed for Nvidia GPU's in ubuntu?
[23:00] <cjae> Hi, is there a way in 7.10 to make the screen saver work on my plasma to prevent burn in but still be able to use my monitor? My xorg.conf is setup as two separate screens (independent tv out) not twinview or anything
[23:00] <cjae> nvidia of course
[23:01] <prakriti> turn the tv off?
[23:01] <prakriti> hehe
[23:01] <cjae> lol
[23:01] <Slart> Exlax: yes.. if you're using the binary driver.. can't remember the command.. nvclock or something
[23:01]  * BoemLauw remu Ok well thats a reason. But hey i'll walk you right trough the install
[23:01] <BoemLauw> It's dead easy
[23:01] <cjae> not for me it for others that use this box and forget to turn the tv off
[23:02] <billgoldberg> Are the ubuntuforums.org down or is it only me?
[23:02] <Odd-rationale> billgoldberg: it is being updated
[23:02] <remu> BoemLauw: that sounds great, I just installed the hardy rc, and its bugging me to do the updates, should i do that first, or do the driver first? I'm running the restricted right now
[23:02] <DanikarP1> billgoldberg: they are down
[23:02] <billgoldberg> ok
[23:02] <billgoldberg> i'll wait a few hours
[23:02] <Slart> alexissoft: from the ubuntu site.. description for the amd64 iso "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead."
[23:02] <matt___> how can i download all the images here:
[23:02] <matt___> http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/ww2-85.jpg
[23:02] <Illbiteyournose> can anyone here help with dvd playback in Gutsy?
[23:03] <alexissoft> I'VE UNDERSTOOD !
[23:03]  * BoemLauw remu what nvidia card do you have now ? and are you running 32 or 64bit ?
[23:03] <alexissoft> sorry.
[23:03] <alexissoft> i wrote "multivers"
[23:03] <alexissoft> and not "multiverse"
[23:03] <FloodBot2> alexissoft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <alexissoft> .........
[23:03] <proq> matt___: you just listed one image...
[23:03] <matt___> i tried to download all the images http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/**** in that directory by using wget http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2/photos/images/*.jpg but it didn't work...
[23:03] <Slart> alexissoft: =) sorry.. I was just away googling to find some info on it... didn't mean to rub it in =)
[23:03] <matt___> proq:
[23:03] <remu> BoemLauw: I have the nvidia 8400m gs, and am running hardy rc amd64
[23:03] <alexissoft> sorry ...
[23:03] <alexissoft> and thanks !
[23:03] <billgoldberg> sure,  for dvd playblack, click this link http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/media-and-ubuntu/
[23:03] <matt___> proq: any method will work...
[23:04] <alexissoft> yeah : it works far better now :D
[23:04]  * BoemLauw Well lucky you, thats my setup :-) You haved got the Dell D830 by any change huh ? :)
[23:04] <proq> matt___: wget globs by default
[23:04] <Illbiteyournose> its not a normal error, its weird, it reads the FBI warnings but then crashes when it gets to the menu
[23:04] <remu> BoemLauw: haha thats cool, no I have the hp dv2700
[23:04] <matt___> proq: meaning?
[23:04] <matt___> proq: and can i use wget if i make it not glob?
[23:04] <proq> matt___: meaning *.jpg should work
[23:04] <remu> BoemLauw: what kind of games can you run on linux with wine with your setup?
[23:05] <Speedy> try    sudo rm-rf /etc/X11    then hit ctrl alt backspace
[23:05] <matt___> proq: for me, it says wildcards not supported in http
[23:05] <Exlax> Slart: Says my card isn't supported yet, i have a 8800GTX.
[23:06]  * BoemLauw Good question. I only play games on my Vista box (BF2142/Crysis) but on on linux ... dunno. Better go for the linux games while your add it.
[23:06] <BoemLauw> Doom 3 etc
[23:06] <matt___> proq: what happens if you try it?
[23:06] <Slart> Exlax: hmm.. I have a 8800GTX too.. and I've changed the fan-speed on mine.. what version of the nvidia driver do you use?
[23:06] <remu> BoemLauw: i dual boot vista for games
[23:06] <yowshi> Slart: FILE "Final Fantasy 7 [CD1][NTSC-U].img" BINARY is what the cue file has
[23:06] <mneptok> matt___: wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.jpg http://www.server.com/dir/
[23:06]  * BoemLauw remu wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/173.08/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.08-pkg2.run
[23:06] <remu> BoemLauw: so you say the restricted drivers are not that good eh? wanna walk me through changing it?
[23:06] <remu> cool
[23:07] <BoemLauw> remu beat you in the process :)
[23:07] <matt___> mneptok: if this works, i love you
[23:07] <Exlax> Slart: how can i tell?
[23:07] <wildman> hello there, I'm on ubuntu 7.1 x86 and 'free' shows 3.2GB out of the 4GB installed, besides installing the -server kernels, or compiling one myself, is there any parameter I can pass to the default kernel for it to 'see' the full 4GB?
[23:07] <BoemLauw> remu chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.08-pkg2.run
[23:07] <_20eric06_> Hello, I've just bought a new computer which has Ubuntu, and I want to double-boot XP with it, but I don't know how to use the GNU Parted
[23:07] <mneptok> remu: please use the packaged drivers
[23:07] <_20eric06_> Could anyone help me?
[23:07] <remu> BoemLauw: mind if we do this in a private window? I don't want to miss any steps
[23:07] <mneptok> remu: downloading drivers from nVidia is not the recommended way to do things
[23:07] <remu> mneptok: you mean the restricted drivers?
[23:07] <Slart> yowshi: it could be the spaces in that filename.. but I'm not sure... if I were you I'd try renaming the img file to something simple.. with just plain ascii characters.. and then try again
[23:07] <elliott> can anyone help me install hardy rc1 on my mac mini? It says it installs correctly, but when I go to restart it doesn't boot. when I re-enter the install CD and select "boot from first hard disk", i get a blinking cursor and the computer hangs. someone else told me to make sure I was using the cirrect architecture, and I am.
[23:08] <BoemLauw> Now here is a catch, i'm not sure how you go to init 3 in ubunto since init 3 doesn't seem to work but hey, if all fails grep a hammer
[23:08] <mneptok> remu: yes
[23:08] <matt___> mneptok: thank you...
[23:08] <mneptok> remu: do they not work in some way>
[23:08] <_20eric06_> Hello, anyone?
[23:08] <mneptok> matt___: np
[23:08] <BoemLauw> . /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:08] <BoemLauw> Then as root run ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.08-pkg2.run
[23:08] <BoemLauw> (from the console)
[23:08] <wildman> _20eric06_, the recommended way is to install Windows 1st, then to install Linux
[23:08] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, can you tell me how to make it so that alt-tab shows all processes on all workspaces, not just the current one?
[23:08] <jacob_> what's the name of the package that install kde desktop environment that allows me to select gnome and kde at the beginning of a session
[23:08] <_20eric06_> wildman: That's the problem, I don't have the Ubuntu CD
[23:08] <billgoldberg> eric, you don't need gparted, the ubuntu cd will allow you to resize your partition when you install it, you just need to enter how much space you want to give ubuntu. Grub will then let you pick xp or ubuntu on boot
[23:09] <Slart> Exlax: run nvidia-settings.. it's in there somewhere
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> jacob_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:09] <_20eric06_> It came with the computer
[23:09] <Exlax> Slart: Nvidia settings says 100.14.19
[23:09] <BoemLauw> It says `can't find yadadayada` just ok it and let it compile you a driver
[23:09] <proq> _20eric06_: download it
[23:09] <jacob_> ok thank you
[23:09] <wildman> _20eric06_, though Windows XP "may" add a boot entry for existing Linux, or you may be able to add it afterwards
[23:09] <cab86> hello, I am having permission issues. I was successful @ installing the ATI drivers, I have dri in root but not in usr.
[23:09] <remu> mneptok: no, they work well, BoemLauw was just telling me that the restricted arent that great, so I thought I might try it out, so you reccommend otherwise?
[23:09] <wildman> _20eric06_, well, you can always download it from the net
[23:09] <_20eric06_> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm I'm following this
[23:09] <mneptok> remu: i do. in the strongest possible terms.
[23:09] <_20eric06_> wildman: I'd rather not download large files with my slow internet
[23:09] <_20eric06_> I just want to know how to use Parted
[23:10] <remu> mneptok: lol, alright, thanks
[23:10] <eax> Hello :) Can anyone tell me how to browse an Audio CD, I'm using feisty and it will only allow me to rip the cd :S
[23:10] <seamus7> Cheesypieces: you likely just need to go into Advanced Desktop Effects and find the plugin which Alt-Tab initiates .. .then change the plugin's settings to show all workspaces when initiated ... something like that
[23:10] <Slart> Exlax: hmm.. I have 169.12, but I use the driver from nvidias site.. I think that's newer
[23:10] <wildman> _20eric06_, I'm not a parted expert, but doesn't it have an intuitive GUI?
[23:10] <jhoc2x_> is pelo around?
[23:10] <seamus7> !compiz
[23:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:10] <Cheesypieces> seamus7: ok i'll give it a try. thanks
[23:10] <Exlax> Slart: I don't know how to install the one from nvidias site.
[23:10] <jhoc2x_> i think not.. ^_^
[23:10] <billgoldberg> it's pretty easy to use gparted. Pop-in the live cd and rezise the windows partition, then format the free space to ext3.
[23:10] <mneptok> Cheesypieces: do you use Compiz?
[23:10]  * BoemLauw remu join the #ubuntu-chillout-channel 
[23:10] <remu> BoemLauw: mneptok talked me out of it, that and the continuous up scrolling of the messages, lol, I'm still new to ubuntu and not a 100% comfortable playing under the hood
[23:10] <Slart> Exlax: then just wait until the day after tomorrow.. then you can update to hardy.. I think it has a newer version of the nvidia driver
[23:11] <_20eric06_> wildman: No, it's on the terminal
[23:11] <wildman> billgoldberg, he doesn't have a live CD :P Ubuntu is already installed on his system
[23:11] <billgoldberg> oh, missed that
[23:11] <Exlax> Slart: Okay, thanks.
[23:11] <jhoc2x_> remu: are you from philippines?
[23:11] <Slart> Exlax: you're welcome
[23:11] <BoemLauw> remu you are going to regret it... but hey your call. (Remeber it's just a driver, don't like it ? go back to ubuntu's)
[23:11] <_20eric06_> There must be a GUI, but I don't know how to access it
[23:11] <billgoldberg> so he wants to add xp after he added ubuntu
[23:11] <billgoldberg> ?
[23:12] <zvacet>      _20eric06_ :               http://gparted.sourceforge.net/documentation.php
[23:12] <marko-_-> _20eric06_, install gparted from apt-get and then start it with the command "gparted"
[23:12] <wildman> zvacet, thx :)
[23:12] <billgoldberg> I don't think it's possible to resize the harddrive if you are using it. So you will need that live cd.
[23:12] <_20eric06_> marko-_-: Ubuntu does not recognize my internet
[23:12] <proq> billgoldberg: on the things-to-try ubuntu list, that one ranks as easy  :)
[23:12] <marko-_-> right
[23:12] <wildman> billgoldberg, indeed, resizing active (mounted) partitions my not be posible
[23:12] <billgoldberg> proq, i'm not sure about that
[23:13] <wildman> _20eric06_, type 'help' inside parted and read :)
[23:13] <_20eric06_> Ubuntu has Parted, but not Gparted
[23:13] <_20eric06_> wildman: I did
[23:13] <cab86> anyone who can tell me how to fix a permission issue with my ati drivers?
[23:13] <zvacet> wildman : np
[23:13] <jhoc2x_> Ubuntu is way far more suprising than of windows.. i can tell you that.. ^_^  even if im new to this, i can see it clearly..
[23:13] <reggae> what size is the minimum ubuntu livecd?
[23:13] <proq> billgoldberg: anything which has a short howto online ranks as easy
[23:13] <_20eric06_> But I'm afraid I didn't completly understand everything
[23:13] <wildman> _20eric06_, looks like you can use the 'print' command, to list existing partitions, then the 'resize' command to resize 'em
[23:13] <Ravenkin> Anyone know how to minimize evolution to the notification area?
[23:13] <elliott> can anyone help me install hardy rc1 on my mac mini? It says it installs correctly, but when I go to restart it doesn't boot. when I re-enter the install CD and select "boot from first hard disk", i get a blinking cursor and the computer hangs. someone else told me to make sure I was using the cirrect architecture, and I am.
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> reggae: <10mb
[23:13] <reggae> o.o
[23:13] <_20eric06_> wildman: It says it can't access /dev/scd0
[23:13] <wildman> _20eric06_, as billgoldberg points it may be impossible for you to resize a mounted partition (and believe me, your Ubuntu partition is mounted)
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> reggae: it is text mode
[23:14] <billgoldberg> wildman, thats what I tought
[23:14] <wildman> _20eric06_, that's the usual name for CD/DVD drives, not hard disks
[23:14] <reggae> Odd-rationale, i can imagine that
[23:14] <_20eric06_> wildman: I just typed print, I don't know what to do then
[23:14] <gtT> hey all, sziasztok! not ubuntu related, but maybe sbdy can help. How do you translate "interpersonal skills" to Hungarian??
[23:14] <proq> _20eric06_: the first step is for you to burn an ubuntu desktop cd so you can repartition
[23:14] <wildman> _20eric06_, read 'resize' command help
[23:14] <zvacet> _20eric06_ : it is just live CD of same program that you have in Ubuntu maybe even with more options.You need lice CD ( Ubuntu or Gparted)
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> reggae: I wouldn't reccomend it unless you have decent internet connection...
[23:14] <wildman> _20eric06_, it looks like you are in a catch-22 situation...
[23:14] <yowshi> how do i make craserop disc NOT eject the cdrom?
[23:15] <jhoc2x_> lol.. im happy someone guided me on how to play WoW using wine.. now my life is back.. ^_^
[23:15] <proq> _20eric06_: I take that back, the very first step is to back up your files
[23:15] <yowshi> because it is being very annoying in doing it every time it fails
[23:15] <_20eric06_> Is there how to make a install CD/DVD from my current Ubuntu install and then reinstall it?
[23:15] <_20eric06_> I have no files on this computer yet
[23:15] <_20eric06_> Apart from Ubuntu
[23:15] <cab86> :P download a new install :P... j/k
[23:15] <_20eric06_> It's brand new, came with Ubuntu, and I have no CD for it
[23:15] <wildman> zvacet, you can get http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page which is small (around 100MB) and has ALL tools you need
[23:15] <wildman> oups!
[23:15] <billgoldberg> While I'm here, does anyone has any experience with the ati drivers and hardy? On gutsy they didn't play 3d games at all. (ati radeon xpress 1100 or 200)
[23:15] <yowshi> !brasero
[23:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brasero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:16] <wildman> zvacet, sorry, I'll kill my TAB key
[23:16] <zeld> hi to all.. anyone use bmpx?
[23:16] <wildman> _20eric06_, you can get http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page which is small (around 100MB) and has ALL tools you need
[23:16] <proq> _20eric06_: such things exist, yes. but that is not as easy as backing up, burning an ubuntu cd
[23:16] <zeld> i've a little problem with the output server..
[23:16] <zeld> if i set pulseaudio and restart bmpx it take only jack!
[23:16] <zeld> and jackd is DEATH!
[23:16] <wildman> _20eric06_, either that, or you ask a friend with broadband connection to download the 700MB Ubuntu 7.1 CD
[23:16] <zvacet> wildman : tnx for link
[23:16] <Odd-rationale> !info brasero | yowshi
[23:16] <ubotu> yowshi: brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1049 kB, installed size 3236 kB
[23:17] <mEck0> Hi! does anyone know if laptop battery time should be increased in hardy stable release? and if suspend and hibernate will work? with gnome, I got about 3h 20min of battery time, in constrast to windows vista where I got about 5h 25min... What is it that eats so much battery in gnu/linux? since the system should be more efficient than windows
[23:17] <wildman> zvacet, it was meant for _20eric06_, but anyway... ;)
[23:17] <yggwork> http://www.marcelgagne.com/node/561
[23:17] <zeld> i' wont to use pulseaudio... anyone can help me?
[23:17] <_20eric06_> proq: Is there how to burn the entire Ubuntu system (2gb apparently) on a DVD, format, instal XP, repartition and then install Ubuntu?
[23:17] <jhoc2x_> is there a new ubuntu version coming?
[23:17] <thiebaude> yup 8.04
[23:17] <cab86> jhoc, yes 3 days
[23:17] <yowshi> Odd-rationale: that doesnt tell me anything like how to change it's settings so it doesnt eject the cdrom tray
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> jhoc2x_: yes. on the 24th
[23:17] <kleinet> mn jn
[23:17] <thiebaude> im usingit now
[23:17] <Zelta> !hardy | jhoc2x
[23:17] <ubotu> jhoc2x: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[23:17] <ikonia> _20eric06_: not really very straight forward
[23:17] <proq> _20eric06_: yes, but those are separate howtos. again, I wouldn't try making a DVD from your system. it's harder
[23:17] <kleinet> ?
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> yowshi: oh that? i dunno.
[23:17] <_20eric06_> wildman: I do have broadband, 200k cable
[23:17] <thiebaude> bye bye micro....
[23:18] <ng0n> y does do my network file transfers fail unless i have an active session running to the internet ?
[23:18] <wildman> _20eric06_, as you can see from what the rest is typing, there's a new Ubuntu coming in 2 days
[23:18] <kleinet> what is this fucking chat
[23:18] <_20eric06_> I just hate downloading large files
[23:18] <jhoc2x_> nice.. .. im looking forward to try
[23:18] <kleinet> helppppppppppppp
[23:18] <zvacet> wildman : I knmow but tnx anyway
[23:18] <wildman> _20eric06_, and what's the problem with your broadband connection then?
[23:18] <Pici> !language | kleinet
[23:18] <ubotu> kleinet: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:18] <jhoc2x_> did kleinet just use the "F" word?
[23:18] <_20eric06_> wildman: It takes too long for 700mb files
[23:18] <proq> jhoc2x_: he did
[23:18] <amenado> ng0n-> how is it going to happen if you were not active?
[23:18] <kleinet> welllllllllllllllllllll
[23:18] <wildman> kleinet, whatch your language please
[23:18] <billgoldberg> eric, the whole ubuntu os is only 700mb. Put in the xp cd, let it use the whole hard drive. Then put it the ubuntu cd, use the guided size (something like that) to install ubuntu. That's it.
[23:18] <kleinet> israellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[23:18] <thiebaude> lo
[23:18] <ikonia> kleinet: please stop
[23:18] <thiebaude> lol
[23:18] <ng0n> ..
[23:18] <jhoc2x_> i already hate that guy,,
[23:18] <zeld> israel?
[23:18] <kleinet> i speak hebrew
[23:18] <ikonia> zeld: donn't feed it
[23:18] <kleinet> sory
[23:19] <jordo2323_> I used to run Kubuntu. Anyone have an FTP client recommendation using GTK?
[23:19] <_20eric06_> Well, I might download Ubuntu later then, but I'd havee no use for it.
[23:19] <wildman> _20eric06_, get the 100MB sysrescd
[23:19] <Pici> kleinet: This is the official Ubuntu Support Channel
[23:19] <zeld> guy o gay?
[23:19] <zeld> :D
[23:19] <thiebaude> hi klein
[23:19] <_20eric06_> I'll just install Windows then, thanks anyways
[23:19] <kleinet> ok sory
[23:19] <zeld> ikonia, ok
[23:19] <_20eric06_> I just thought I could save this current install
[23:19] <yowshi> Slart: grrr even when i tell it nto burn the .img file itself it wont do it. says it cant get the file size and stuff cause it cant find it
[23:19] <_20eric06_> That'd be the only reason for me to have Ubuntu
[23:19] <proq> kleinet: that didn't look like hebrew  ;)
[23:19] <billgoldberg> you can, try the official forums, might get better support there
[23:19] <Tyler> Anyone here an expert with Unison
[23:19] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: i can tell you ubuntu if far greater than windows dude!
[23:19] <yowshi> Slart: FinalFantasy7CD1.img is the img file name
[23:19] <wildman> _20eric06_, if you don't have any LiveCD available it's not possible to do what you need
[23:19] <kleinet> where  can i fing girls here?
[23:20] <ng0n> try a 60 gig transfer sometime
[23:20] <wildman> kleinet, wrong channel, this is not a dating channel ;)
[23:20] <thiebaude> ubuntu is superior
[23:20] <ant__> elo
[23:20] <J-Unit> is it possible for firefox to add a website (http://www.leconjugueur.com/php/newconjugue.php?v=promouvoir)
[23:20] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: why not request for a copy at ubuntu's??? i got 4 cd's from them..
[23:20] <kleinet> don't u like israel here?
[23:20] <_20eric06_> jhoc2x: But it doesn't have as much games as Windows :P
[23:20] <kleinet> i will go away
[23:20] <wildman> kleinet, I do, that's not the pb
[23:20] <proq> kleinet: sure I do
[23:20] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: it does actually
[23:20] <_20eric06_> And I am a big games
[23:20] <_20eric06_> gamer*
[23:20] <ant__> do you know how to install global menu ?
[23:20] <ikonia> wildman: please don't feed him
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> !offtopic | kleinet
[23:20] <ubotu> kleinet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:20] <clem85> hello
[23:21] <wildman> ikonia, OK boss ;)
[23:21] <zvacet> _20eric06_ : why don´t you dual boot?
[23:21] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: and can run windows games, applications as well..
[23:21] <_20eric06_> And Ubuntu wasn't recognizing my internet connection
[23:21] <wildman> zvacet, he wants, but he cannot ;)
[23:21] <_20eric06_> zvacet: I was trying that since I entered this channel
[23:21] <pidus> where do i ask about a query regarding svn?
[23:21] <wildman> zvacet, don't add to his frustration ;)
[23:21] <clem85> anyone have already do a RIS server with linux to deploy windows systems ?
[23:21] <proq> _20eric06_: windows doesn't have as many games as playstation. maybe that's what you need
[23:21] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: some of them might not work though.. wine is still not that perfect..
[23:22] <elliott> can anyone help me install hardy rc1 on my mac mini? It says it installs correctly, but when I go to restart it doesn't boot. when I re-enter the install CD and select "boot from first hard disk", i get a blinking cursor and the computer hangs. someone else told me to make sure I was using the cirrect architecture, and I am.
[23:22] <wildman> pidus, u can try here, you may be lucky
[23:22] <jhoc2x_> lol.. ps2
[23:22] <yowshi> and while i am on it anyone know where i can get everything i need to run pcsx?
[23:22] <thiebaude> im glad i dont dual boot into ,   well that other os from redmond, haha
[23:22] <zvacet> _20eric06_ :sorry,sorry,sorry
[23:22] <ikonia> !hardy > elliott
[23:22] <ikonia> elliott: see the pm from ubotu
[23:22] <billgoldberg> can't help, never touched a mac in my life
[23:22] <proq> _20eric06_: on top of that, you can still run ubuntu on playstation
[23:22] <jhoc2x_> _20eric06_: just this early, i played world of warcraft..
[23:22] <pidus> i want to revert back to an older checkout of a svn repository. How do i do that?
[23:22] <wildman> hello there, I'm on ubuntu 7.1 x86 and 'free' shows 3.2GB out of the 4GB installed, besides installing the -server kernels, or compiling one myself, is there any parameter I can pass to the default kernel for it to 'see' the full 4GB?
[23:22] <billgoldberg> I run ubuntu on my ps3 , haha, talk about the best of 2 worlds
[23:22] <ikonia> pidus: join #subversion
[23:22] <andre_pl> i've seen posts on using setterm to disable console-blanking, but how can I make this change permanent?
[23:22] <jhoc2x_> proq: are you serious? run ubuntu on playstation?
[23:22] <Pici> pidus: You can try asking here or in #svn
[23:22]  * wildman just rethrew his original Q
[23:23] <cab86> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
[23:23] <proq> jhoc2x_: yes, people run ubuntu on playstation
[23:23] <andre_pl> jhoc2x_: I am running it on ps3 right now
[23:23] <_20eric06_> ...I have an E: partition?!
[23:23] <ikonia> cab86: please don't do that
[23:23] <pidus> thanks ikonia
[23:23] <ikonia> cab86: please just as a question clearly
[23:23] <pidus> and pici
[23:23] <_20eric06_> This computer is brand new, I wonder what could be in this partition
[23:23] <jhoc2x_> wow..
[23:23] <cab86> well, i've been asking questions for a while and notthing has happened ikonia
[23:23] <ikonia> cab86: then wait patiently, your approach is the best way to be ignored
[23:23] <RoAkSoAx> _20eric06_, is it a Raw partition?
[23:23] <jhoc2x_> using the live CD on playstation??? hmmm.. i got here ps2 ... will it run?
[23:23] <ikonia> cab86: please ask your question clearly
[23:23] <cab86> i was ignored to start with...
[23:24] <_20eric06_> RoAkSoAx: I don't know
[23:24] <billgoldberg> jhoc, no only on a ps3
[23:24] <_20eric06_> Both are unknown
[23:24] <jhoc2x_> awwwwwww.. sad then.. ^_^
[23:24] <_20eric06_> I'm on Windows XP's installation
[23:24] <RoAkSoAx> _20eric06_, does it have a size or something like that?
[23:24] <wildman> cab86, you have at least 2 person's attention now
[23:24] <thiebaude> not by intention cab86
[23:24] <andre_pl> jhoc2x_: ps2 needs a special distro I think, and an external HDD
[23:24] <wildman> cab86, use it wisely :)
[23:24] <_20eric06_> One is 232566 mb (232565 mb free)
[23:24] <ikonia> !offtopic | andre_pl
[23:24] <ubotu> andre_pl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:24] <proq> jhoc2x_: http://playstation2-linux.com/
[23:24] <cab86> I have dri in root mode but not in usr... it keeps reporting that the driver could not be loaded due to permission denied... how can I change those permission to have it work properly
[23:24] <cab86> ?
[23:24] <wildman> _20eric06_, E: may be the way Windows recognizes Ubuntu's partitions
[23:24] <_20eric06_> Another is 5907 mb (5906 mb free)
[23:25] <ikonia> cab86: what is reporting that error ?
[23:25] <_20eric06_> Hm, could this mean it's ready to dualboot?
[23:25] <proq> _20eric06_: that's not much space
[23:25] <cab86> one sec..
[23:25] <_20eric06_> proq: It's not.
[23:25] <wildman> _20eric06_, usually Linux has 2 partitions, one for root filesystem (/), the other for swap (virtual memory)
[23:25] <proq> _20eric06_: is that a rescue partition?
[23:26] <_20eric06_> I don't know
[23:26] <cab86>  LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo, fglrxinfo, fgl_glxgears ...
[23:26] <_20eric06_> This computer is brand new, I don't know what it could be
[23:26] <billgoldberg> if it's a new pc, that 5gb will the the recovery partition
[23:26] <ikonia> cab86: where did you get the driver ?
[23:26] <_20eric06_> oh
[23:26] <wildman> err... 5907MB = 5GB and 232000+MB = 232+GB... that's a lot of space to me... unless I made a mistake in my calculus
[23:26] <cab86> all those work under root but don't work  properly under usr...   it's the ATI driver, i think it's the repos one....
[23:27] <_20eric06_> wildman: Yeah, 250gb hd
[23:27] <ikonia> cab86: how can they work under root ?
[23:27] <setner> good evening
[23:27] <ikonia> cab86: what are you doing to launch an Xserver as root ?
[23:27] <_20eric06_> So I delete C partition and make a new one there for windows?
[23:27] <_20eric06_> Or do I let 10gb for a possible future linux install?
[23:27] <wildman> _20eric06_, if on the Ubuntu system, I bet the big one (200GB+) is the root partition (where everything is installed) and the other is swap (though almost 6GB for swap is a lot)
[23:27] <jhoc2x__> waaaaaaaaa... i am disconnected again.. jezz...
[23:28] <_20eric06_> Maybe the 5gb one is Linux?
[23:28] <Lowkey421> how do I force close a program?
[23:28] <wildman> _20eric06_, nope, 200GB+ is
[23:28] <cab86> I originaly installed the ati ones manualy, didn't work, the commands would segfault, so I used envy, same result, I reinstalled the ATI ones differently, still didn't work... then i allowed the ones from the repos, then the commands worked
[23:28] <proq> _20eric06_: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda  will tell you if it's swap
[23:28] <wildman> _20eric06_, bah, both are :)
[23:28] <_20eric06_> Hm,
[23:28] <billgoldberg> pkill or killall followed by the name
[23:28] <Pici> cab86: what commands?
[23:28] <_20eric06_> proq: I'm not on linux
[23:28] <_20eric06_> I'm on Windows XP's install
[23:28] <Lowkey421> billgoldberg: In terminal?
[23:28] <cab86> fglrxinfo, glxinfo, fgl_glxgears
[23:28] <billgoldberg> yes
[23:28] <ikonia> cab86: in that case I don't want to support you, as you've messed up your driver system and I chose to not take the time unpicking it. The ubuntu repo's provide supported drivers for a good reason
[23:29] <billgoldberg> but there is an panel applet that's easier to use
[23:29] <Lowkey421> billgoldberg: what if the program is package installer
[23:29] <cab86> ikonia, i haven't finished though
[23:29] <Lowkey421> pkill package-installer ?
[23:29] <bad_cables> ubustu rules!
[23:29] <jhoc2x__> anyone downloading mp3's???? what's the top downloader?? pls give link
[23:29] <wildman> _20eric06_, C: is Windows way of saying 1st partition, while E: is well... Windows way of saying 2nd partition (it actually would be D: but I guess D: is your CD/DVD drive)
[23:29] <ikonia> cab86: I don't want to take it any futher, your system is in a mess
[23:29] <ikonia> bad_cables: we don't need to see that. This is a busy support channel
[23:29] <billgoldberg> maybe, use the panel applet, that way you just click the program and it force quits
[23:29] <cab86> when I run my openGL programs using sudo, it works...  when I try to run it as user it doesnt
[23:29] <agibby5> i copied my /home to /media/sdb1/home but can't mount /dev/sdb1/home... its saying 'mount: special device /dev/sdb1/home does not exist'. ideas?
[23:29] <Pici> jhoc2x__: Piracy is *not* supported here.
[23:29] <_20eric06_> proq: Should I delete the 233gb partition, make a new 213 one for windows, leaving 20gb for Linux?
[23:29] <pidus> nobody speaks ar #svn :(
[23:29] <Lowkey421> what panel applet/
[23:29] <Lowkey421> :(
[23:30] <wildman> _20eric06_, if you don't want/cannot get those LiveCD CDs (Ubuntu's 700MB or system rescue CD's 100MB), then why not kill all partitions...
[23:30] <jhoc2x__> sorry.. ^_^
[23:30] <ikonia> pidus: they do, I've had great info, keep with it
[23:30] <Zelta> _20eric06_: How you allocate space to your operating systems is your own choice
[23:30] <jhoc2x__> Pici: sorry.. ^_^ i just want my fav songs..^_6
[23:30] <wildman> _20eric06_, then install Windows XP, and then download Ubuntu 8.04 and install it resizing and all when it's available?
[23:30] <proq> _20eric06_: you also need a swap partition, and possibly anything else you want on a partition
[23:30] <_20eric06_> wildman: But what is in E:?
[23:30] <Jobias> i've read that installing .deb files directly using dpkg isn't good practice, especially once you start accumulating lots of apps, and that it's better to use apt to manage your apps. the problem is that the app i'm looking it doesn't exist in any repository i know of. should i set up my own repository to handle apps i'm interested in? or is there another way to get apt-get to work with individual .deb files?
[23:30] <cab86> ikonia, even by totaly removing them... when I reinstall new ones it still gives me the same result
[23:30] <wildman> _20eric06_, you'll loose all your current data, of course
[23:30] <billgoldberg> on the top gnome panel, right click and press 'add to panel' select force quit
[23:30] <wildman> _20eric06_, Ubuntu's SWAP space
[23:30] <billgoldberg> it's easiers and faster
[23:30] <Lowkey421> ok thanks :D
[23:30] <_20eric06_> So is it safe to delete it?
[23:30] <Pici> Jobias: What program are you looking for?
[23:30] <wildman> _20eric06_, swap = virtual memory
[23:30] <_20eric06_> I know what swap it
[23:30] <_20eric06_> is*
[23:31] <billgoldberg> no prob :p
[23:31] <jhoc2x__> or you can use 2 hard drives.. one is Ubuntu, the other is WinXP
[23:31] <ikonia> cab86: I've said twice now, I'm not interested in progressing support further with you due to the state your system is in, it is totally unknown
[23:31] <pidus> ikonia: hope they do, sometime soon.
[23:31] <_20eric06_> jhoc2x_: I don't have 2 hds...
[23:31] <ikonia> pidus: I assure you they do
[23:31] <jhoc2x__> i see..
[23:31] <asizemore> hey, I would like to know how to mount this harddrive I just got as a storage drive on my server
[23:31] <Jobias> Pici: guake, a terminal emulator that replicates a quake-like terminal
[23:31] <cab86> wow, this is pointless...  there was no support at all
[23:32] <_20eric06_> wildman: So I'll delete both partitions, make a new one for windows taking up the whole HD, if I ever get Ubuntu then I can simply resize the partition, freeing up 20 gb for linux?
[23:32] <zeld> good night guys :)
[23:32] <ikonia> cab86: no, you have "done your own thing" and put your system in an unknown state.
[23:32] <billgoldberg> eric: yes
[23:32] <wildman> _20eric06_, yes
[23:32] <_20eric06_> Sounds fair.
[23:32] <Lowkey421> billgoldberg: PM
[23:32] <_20eric06_> Farewell, Ubuntu
[23:32] <wildman> _20eric06_, BEWARE, you'll loose ALL data on that disk!!! :)
[23:32] <jhoc2x__> well, it work for me, first i install windows making 2 partitions.. then, ubuntu installation at 2nd partition.. it work fine..
[23:32] <wildman> _20eric06_, I'd rather say: till next week Ubuntu :)
[23:32] <jhoc2x__> lol
[23:32] <Pici> Jobias: Theres both kakuake and tilde in the Ubuntu repos, anyway, setting up a repo just to install a few debs is not good practice either.
[23:33] <_20eric06_> wildman: I know
[23:33] <wildman> _20eric06_, good luck
[23:33] <Jobias> Pici: hmm, alright. are either of those GTK?
[23:33] <asizemore> my father's external drive died, so I removed it and put it in an enclosure. I would like to use this drive as a storage drive accessable from FTP. I've already got the server set up for SSH and ftp, but if I add this drive in (as ATA IDE), how can I mount the new drive and use it?
[23:33] <_20eric06_> I don't have anything on the disk apart from ubuntu itself
[23:33] <wildman> _20eric06_, and sorry if that's the only workable solution with your current constraints
[23:33] <_20eric06_> I understand partitions :)
[23:33] <ikonia> asizemore: how can you use a drive if it's dead
[23:33] <_20eric06_> wildman: It's fine
[23:33] <Pici> Jobias: tilde is designed for gnome, I assume it uses gtk
[23:33] <_20eric06_> I just don't like download big files
[23:33] <Jobias> Pici: alrighty, thanks
[23:33] <asizemore> ikonia: the enclosure was dead
[23:33] <asizemore> ikonia: not the drive
[23:33] <LadyNikon> anyone know of a gdesklet channel?
[23:34] <ikonia> asizemore: ok, partition it, format it with a file system and mount it as any other scsi disk
[23:34] <Lowkey421> billgoldberg?
[23:34] <SkinnYPupp> alt+c shows all channels available
[23:34] <Pici> SkinnYPupp: hm?
[23:34] <billgoldberg> yes
[23:34] <LadyNikon> SkinnYPupp: that depends on the client
[23:34] <proq> LadyNikon: type /list and search for one
[23:35] <LadyNikon> proq: i woudlnt do a /list on this network :p
[23:35] <LadyNikon> proq: just wondering if someone knew of one off hand
[23:35] <proq> LadyNikon: why? I do
[23:35] <asizemore> ikonia: I can't format it, that's the problem
[23:35] <Pici> LadyNikon: you can /msg chanserv list *search*pattern*
[23:35] <asizemore> it's a fat32 drive
[23:35] <ikonia> asizemore: what are you doing to put a file system on it ?
[23:35] <LadyNikon> Pici: pattern?
[23:35] <ikonia> asizemore: so ? put a file system on it
[23:35] <Lowkey421> I sent you a PM
[23:35] <linkmaster03> Why is Tilda showing these Gdk and Gtk errors? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64043/) The first error is only on startup, the last two errors come up any time that I try to retract/pull out the Tilda terminal.
[23:35] <asizemore> it has a file system on it and 300GB of files
[23:35] <billgoldberg> how do I read it, first time using irc?
[23:35] <ikonia> asizemore: ok, so just mount it as vfat
[23:36] <Lowkey421> Oh, join #lowkey
[23:36] <asizemore> ikonia: that's what I'm asking how to do
[23:36] <ikonia> asizemore: mount -t vfat /dev/drive /mount_point
[23:36] <Pici> LadyNikon: Just a string with wildcards
[23:36] <asizemore> thank you
[23:36] <Lowkey421> in pidgin: crtl+c
[23:36] <asizemore> ikonia: much appreciated
[23:36] <ikonia> asizemore: your welcome
[23:36] <LadyNikon> Pici: heh found desklet irc program :S
[23:36] <_20eric06_> Holy crap, formatting is slow.
[23:37] <pinksoviet> Hey Speedy, your suggestion unfortunately did not work.
[23:37] <jhoc2x__> by the way, guys, is this okey?  i am currently copying a game (WoW) on my other disk, and put it at wine directory.. is this fine?
[23:37] <LadyNikon> anyways.. gdesklets keeps freezing on me.  Wanted to get some help with that
[23:37] <ilpark5> ㅗㅑ
[23:37] <ilpark5> hi
[23:37] <pinksoviet> But thank you for helping me.
[23:38] <jhoc2x__> anyone?
[23:39] <proq> jhoc2x__: you would put it where it normally goes on windows
[23:39] <proq> jhoc2x__: like Program Files, etc.
[23:39] <linkmaster03> Why is Tilda showing these Gdk and Gtk errors? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64043/) The first error is only on startup, the last two errors come up any time that I try to retract/pull out the Tilda terminal.
[23:39] <proq> jhoc2x__: there should be a howto on WoW with wine
[23:41] <Zemus> What's with gparted not booting into gnome on more than half the computers I've ever tried it on?
[23:41] <proq> Zemus: gparted isn't a bootloader
[23:42] <Zemus> proq, so?
[23:42] <proq> Zemus: so I don't get what you mean
[23:42] <Zemus> proq, gparted is supposed to boot into gnome. Half the time, x fails to initialize.
[23:42] <crdlb> Zemus: you're confused
[23:42] <atlef> Zemus: gparted livecd?
[23:43] <Zemus> Yes, the gparted livecd.
[23:43] <Zemus> When I've used it, and it has worked, it boots into a live graphical desktop environment. Gnome.
[23:43] <crdlb> doesn't the gparted livecd use fluxbox?
[23:43] <proq> Zemus: it failed to detect the video card or monitor then
[23:43] <Zemus> Perhaps it is fluxbox, I just assumed it to be gnome, heh.
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> I remember that the gparted livecd used fluxbox...
[23:43] <Zemus> But yeah, it fails to detect the video card or monitor more than half the time.
[23:43] <Zemus> Like, I've used it on five or six computers at this point, and it's failed on most of them.
[23:44] <up_the_irons> hey guys, question about the "runit" package on 7.10.  No /etc/inittab exists on my system, so the install fails b/c runit wants to add an entry to /etc/inittab.  Suggestions?
[23:44] <Zemus> ahhh, and I just used it on another machine
[23:44] <benanzo> what is the difference between "cat FILE | grep string" and "grep string FILE" ??
[23:44] <Zemus> "X.org: You need a graphical environment to run GParted. The graphical environment configuration should have been done automatically, Unfortunately it did not since you are back at the bash! So please run Forcevideo Script, and you will be asked for Video Driver and Reslution. VESA driver should always work, and so should 1024x768"
[23:44] <proq> Zemus: you don't really *need* gparted though. fdisk works better
[23:44] <Zemus> It gives that almost every time. Awesome.
[23:44] <crdlb> benanzo: nothing
[23:44] <atlef> Zemus: try PartedMagic LiveCD http://partedmagic.com/wiki/PartedMagic.php
[23:44] <crdlb> benanzo: except the first one unncessarily uses cat ;)
[23:44] <up_the_irons> benanzo: nothing
[23:44] <Zemus> proq, no, but a lot of the time we need to give it to someone who doesn't know what they're doing and will inevitably make mistakes in a CLI environment.
[23:44] <atlef> Zemus: or change the options in the bootmenu
[23:45] <benanzo> crdlb: but does grep load the whole file into memory like cat does?  or just one line at a time?
[23:45] <up_the_irons> benanzo: except purists will heckle you for using "cat file | ..."
[23:45] <proq> Zemus: it helps to use popular or known-supported hardware in that situation
[23:45] <crdlb> benanzo: it's read line-by-line either way
[23:45] <linkmaster03> Why is Tilda showing these Gdk and Gtk errors? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64043/) The first error is only on startup, the last two errors come up any time that I try to retract/pull out the Tilda terminal.
[23:45] <Zemus> proq, yeah. I have nothing but. :P
[23:46] <benanzo> Yes but in either case is the whole file in memory?
[23:46] <Zemus> I'm not using weird graphics cards or anything. These are very common Nvidia cards, usually.
[23:46] <benanzo> or just one line at a time -- not whether it reads it a line at a time, I know that
[23:46] <WildChild7> howdy.. I can run my x only as sudox. But this is not safe.. How can I run my gnome without super user prvilegies ?
[23:47] <NaNO2x> high-freq, i was wondering if there was a good way to merge a split avi file, i've tried catting and the end keep being cut off, i'm unsure if it is because i'm catting to many files or the last file is missing, it's 20 files all about 100mb
[23:47] <benanzo> but with a 500+ MB log file using "cat | grep string" can save disk IO at the expense of avail memory?
[23:47] <fxd> i'm looking for help with grip, can anyone help me?
[23:47] <Nith> NaNO2x: you need to unencode then reencode the files
[23:48] <Nith> NaNO2x: I'd suggest virtualdub but I dunno if it's available for linux
[23:48] <NaNO2x> well catting worked fine with like 8 files, it's just this last one that's not working
[23:48] <WildChild7> How can I run x as normal user and not as a super user ? where can that be set ?
[23:48] <crdlb> benanzo: avoiding the cat is definitely more efficient
[23:49] <Nith> WildChild7: I think you can do that from a tty, but not from within an x server
[23:50] <proq> WildChild7: X is normally launched by root
[23:51] <WildChild7> proq: if i run x by root... I can't use sudo anyomore
[23:52] <WildChild7> I start sudox and I can't evene update :)
[23:52] <sap> !clone
[23:52] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[23:52] <proq> WildChild7: your system is supposed to start X at boot
[23:52] <WildChild7> I mean sudo startx
[23:52] <Bidget> has anyone installed support for a logitech g15 keyboard that can help me do it?
[23:52] <WildChild7> proq: I don't wannt it..
[23:52] <proq> WildChild7: sudo startx&
[23:52] <proq> WildChild7: you have other ttys you know...
[23:53] <WildChild7> proq: I'm connected to the computer cia ssh...
[23:53] <WildChild7> cai=via
[23:53] <alanmatoso> #ubuntu
[23:54] <alanmatoso> #ubuntu-br
[23:54] <WildChild7> proq: if I write sudo startx& I am in the next line and if I write a pssword it's seen
[23:54] <demonspork>  Bidget, it was hard when I did it, I had to compile all the packages to run it from their source code, such as g15daemon, g15lcd, graphlcd and a few others to get the screen running. I never did get the mappings for the extra G keys working quite right and eventually gave up on them
[23:54] <fxd> I'm using Grip to rip and encode cds, but it doesn't encode them. any help?
[23:55] <Bidget> demonspork, yeah Ive tried doing that but I run into errors with dependencies when compiling all the packages and nobody seems to be able to help me hahaha. I don't even really care about the lcd screen or the g keys, I just want my media keys to work
[23:55] <alanmatoso> qual o canal do Ubuntu brasil?
[23:55] <Bidget> demonspork, I'm trying to get them to control xmms but I'm not sure what my computer recognizes the media keys as so I cant bind commands to them :(
[23:56] <alanmatoso> alguém pode me informar qual o canal do ubuntu br?
[23:56] <cyclonut> okay noob question: I need to transfer files to a remote server
[23:56] <atlef> !br
[23:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:57] <NaNO2x> so any idea on how to check this?
[23:57] <alanmatoso> thak
[23:57] <alanmatoso> #ubuntu-br
[23:57] <drobvice> is Quake Wars: Enemy Territory worth $5?  It's linux native and on clearance at Target.
[23:57] <linkmaster03> you are on irc in target? nice
[23:57] <Mark_G> drobvice: only if you like the game
[23:57] <Bidget> alanmatoso, you must type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[23:57] <demonspork> what is the command to monitor keystrokes that are in the window?
[23:58] <proq> drobvice: try the demo
[23:58] <basso> i think i sleep
[23:58] <Bidget> demonspork, I believe it's "xev" but when I pressed the media keys it would show up with a whoooolle bunch of weird information
[23:58] <drobvice> Hmm...demo, good idea!
[23:58] <proq> Bidget: that's because xev is for debugging x events
[23:58] <Bidget> ah I see
[23:58] <newbie> when I try to set my wireless card to monitor mode, I got this errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64045/. This happened after I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04. Anyone knows how to fix this problem?
[23:59] <Bidget> proq, is there another utility that might tell me what the key would be called?
[23:59] <Mark_G> newbie: Hardy support is currently in /join #ubuntu+1
[23:59] <basso> blæh i really need to find a gf..
[23:59] <Bidget> lol
[23:59] <newbie> Mark_G, I already post in there, but nobody answers