/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/04/23/#kubuntu-devel.txt

dirkaHey, anybody around?01:13
Riddelloh01:20
Riddellnew DVDs and live CDs up for testing02:48
* Riddell sleeps02:49
jjesseyay new cds :)02:53
yuriyevening04:11
yuriyhmm could somebody politely respond to bug 21941204:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219412 in kubuntu-default-settings "start/windows key does nothing" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21941204:11
yuriybased on his comments in bug 219413 i kind of just want to tell him to go use pclinuxos or similar04:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 219413 in kdebase-workspace "double clicking upper left of windows doesn't close them" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21941304:15
* Hobbsee waves04:27
Jucatopolitely != striking with long pointy stick of doom :P04:28
* Jucato waves back04:28
Hobbseehehe04:30
yuriyhmm SSH X forwarding works a whole lot less nicely cross country04:33
Hobbseeyuriy: indeed.04:38
coreymon77Hobbsee: youre there!05:31
coreymon77Hobbsee: hate to see you go sarah05:31
Hobbseei am, yes05:31
Hobbseebut then again, i'm not running the distro, hadn haven't been for a release, so...05:32
coreymon77but, thanks for all your contributions05:32
Hobbseeit gives someone else a shot05:32
Hobbseeyou're welcome :)05:32
coreymon77i know05:32
coreymon77but, its sad to see one of us leave05:32
coreymon77you know?05:32
coreymon77make sure you stick around here on the channel05:33
nixternalHobbsee isn't going anywhere! That long pointy stick is here forever!05:35
coreymon77lol05:35
Hobbseehehe05:35
coreymon77as long as you dont completely leave us05:35
* Hobbsee shrugs05:37
nixternalHobbsee: have you checked out Tasque for Gnome yet? Zonker from Novell showed it off to us as this weekends con...totally awesome!05:37
Hobbseenope?05:37
Hobbseewhat is it?05:37
nixternalI even slipped up and told jcastro that I liked it...man, I even hung out with the Gnome-Do devs...uh oh, something isn't feeling right05:38
nixternalit is a task manager that totally kicks arse05:38
nixternalat least I had wolfger with me to keep me safe05:38
nixternalwhom I must admit ran one hell of a Bug Jam at Penguicon...our Ubuntu talks attracted more people than any other I saw, except for the Masquerade, which now I wish we wouldn't have missed05:39
Hobbseehaha05:39
Hobbseegnome do is great.05:39
Hobbseeoooh05:39
Hobbseenixternal: not in teh repos?05:40
nixternalnot yet...noticed that earlier when I installed Ubuntu on my desktop :)05:40
nixternalhad to build out the tarball...even setup a Remember The Milk account to use it05:41
Hobbseeahh05:41
nixternalis wolfger a member yet? I can't remember and I am to lazy to go to LP and look05:42
Hobbseeunsure05:43
coreymon77well, im off to bed now05:50
coreymon77goodnight all05:50
Tm_Mgood morning06:19
Hobbseeheya Tm_M06:21
Tm_Mi'm in local health center06:21
Tm_Mbit nervous06:22
Tm_Mmight see the baby in ultrasound scan <306:24
Hobbseeooo06:24
Tm_Mgotta go06:26
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Tm_Myay, baby is well, alive, and living in07:26
Tm_Mnow I can go and arrange release party with big smile07:40
NightroseTm_M: \o/07:51
apachelogger<3 sleep08:26
* apachelogger gives Tm_M a cookie08:26
apacheloggerNightrose: are ye going to do a radio show for the kubuntu hardy party?08:26
apacheloggeror maybe Mez can?08:26
Tm_Myay08:27
apacheloggerhm08:30
Nightroseapachelogger: seems unlikely I'd say08:32
Nightrose:(08:32
apacheloggerNightrose: why?08:32
apacheloggeryou haz all nu internetz, so?08:32
Nightroseother stuff(TM) that needs doing08:33
Nightrosehaha yea I do08:33
* Nightrose is happy that her SoC student finally showed up08:33
Nightroseshy guy it seems08:33
apacheloggeryou have a soc student? Oo08:34
apacheloggerpfft, everyone got a slave, just not me08:34
Nightrosehaha I might get you one :P08:34
Nightrosethere might be another one who needs a mentor08:34
Nightroseso far we have got 2 who wnat to do their prjects besides being rejected08:34
Nightroseand a third one needs to ping me08:34
Nightroseso if you are game I can probably give you the third one ;-)08:35
apacheloggerthinking about it, I'd rather spend my time torturing ubuntu contributors :P08:36
Nightrosehehe08:36
Nightrosethen I need to find someone else...08:36
* Nightrose starts looking08:36
* apachelogger points at ....08:37
apacheloggeremonkey08:37
apacheloggerso08:39
apacheloggerHobbsee: instead of a 'thank you, good luck' mail .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8g_gj4VRUA08:39
* apachelogger uses his nifty cookie distribution system to get everyone a cookie and a cup of tea08:40
apacheloggerNightrose: does insanity actually have a present stock?08:41
apacheloggerI can't remember08:41
* apachelogger sips the tea08:41
Nightrosepresent stock? don't think so08:42
apacheloggerhm08:45
apacheloggerNightrose: do I get a soc student, whom I can abuse to rewrite the rbotbar?08:45
Nightrosenope!08:45
Nightrose:P08:45
apacheloggerpfft08:46
Nightroseand besides: I already got a mentor now08:46
Nightrose;-)08:46
apacheloggerpfft^208:46
Nightrosehehe08:46
* apachelogger goes crying08:46
* Nightrose hugs apachelogger08:46
Tm_Mhi kids09:13
* Nightrose waves09:13
apacheloggerô mon dieu!09:30
apacheloggerfor bug #220655 we need a super special squad for uploading09:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 220655 in kdewebdev-kde4 "Many KDE 4 packages reference KDE 3 packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22065509:31
apacheloggerstdin: if you feel like it, chaning the status and importance for all packages whould be nice ;-)09:31
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apacheloggerstdin: btw, you shouldn't upload 2 identical debdiffs, that is gonna end in confusion09:38
apacheloggerfor me :P09:38
Nightroseapachelogger: automagic 2-row taskbar doesn't seem to work anymore for me - did your patch get removed for some reason?09:46
apacheloggernowadays everthing is possible09:47
Nightrosehehe09:47
apacheloggernope09:47
apacheloggerworkspace is still at ubuntu209:47
Nightrosehmm k09:47
apacheloggerand I revued the patch for ubuntu2, so I doubt it got removed ;-)09:47
Nightroseyea09:47
Nightrosedefinitely doesn't work here09:49
Nightrosemaybe because I have the taskbar set to small09:49
* Nightrose tests09:49
Nightroseyea that's it09:49
apacheloggerjpatrick: btw, it appears more than likely that bug #149936 is also caused by luks :|09:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 149936 in amarok "Amarok fails to start when SQLite database is "corrupted"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14993609:52
dany_21ahello... quick  question: "apt-get -b source ksnapshot-kde4" fails with  "CMake Error: Qt qmake not found!" - but "which qmake" says "/usr/bin/qmake"...so why is it not found by the dpkg-build system?  (at Hardy)10:24
Riddellis it the wrong qmake?  qt3?10:27
dany_21aahh - you are rigth... "qmake --version Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.8b)"10:28
dany_21athan the build-deps (for ksnapshot-kde4) are not fully set... which qmake do i need?10:29
hadsqt4 at a guess.10:31
jussi01qmake-qt4 is the executable iirc10:32
hadsupdate-alternatives --config qmake10:33
dany_21aah... youre right, hmnm... but how to i tell this "apt-get -b" to use this10:33
dany_21aoh... okay, will try10:33
dany_21ahads: Thank you - it works now! - just found a new error, but thats an other problem10:34
apacheloggerRiddell: for intrepid we use ~/.kde for KDE 4?10:37
Riddellapachelogger: yes I think so10:38
apacheloggerRiddell: I guess we need a metabug for migration issues10:39
Riddellcan do10:39
apacheloggerbug #209053 is a perfect example of how wrong things can go10:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209053 in kdebase-workspace "GUI is rendered huge" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20905310:40
apacheloggerRiddell: bug #22094010:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 220940 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "KDE 4 Migration Issues" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22094010:48
apacheloggerhm10:49
apacheloggerRiddell: should I mark the original bug report as duplicate?10:50
Seregawhen will be the kubuntu release?11:06
Riddellwhen all the tests have been done11:06
davmor2Serega: So that's why we are testing the living daylights out of everything ;)11:07
davmor2Riddell: Restricted manager message is still 2/3's of the way up the screen :(11:08
davmor2on kde411:08
SeregaI think I missed importrant thing in codec installation: to update package lists before :)11:08
Riddellpackage lists?11:08
SeregaRiddell: 'apt-get update' .I plan to upload this today's evening.11:09
SeregaRiddell: I relized that on fresh installation no repo packages available in apt-cache11:10
Seregaso installation of libxine1-ffmpeg will fail11:10
Riddelloh right11:10
SeregaRiddell: please wait for this before release11:11
Riddellthat's not always the case, only if you don't have an internet connection during install, but is an issue indeed11:11
RiddellSerega: sorry too late, it'll have to go in -updates11:11
Seregaawww... :(11:11
Seregasorry11:11
Seregabut not chance to install libxine1-ffmpeg w/o internet connection anyway. I hope users will update as a first.11:12
ys76Hello World! The guys behind Seminarix want to build another version of there LiveCD now Kubuntu-based. emile (Aka W.D. Zimmermann) is looking  for contacts....11:14
Riddellys76: great11:15
ys76Riddell: I got just informed by a third party....11:16
Riddellkwwii: doing any CD testing today?12:06
mhbhi folks12:07
jussi01hrm, openoffice crashes upon attempting to print after I just did an upgrade :/12:07
mhbooh, cd testing, too bad I'm stuck at the uni until really late :o(12:07
Riddellmhb: uni.  lots of bandwidth.  dvd testing!12:08
mhbah yes, unfortunately I've got neither my laptop nor any blank DVDs :o12:08
mhb:o(12:08
mhbI'll fetch in the evening, if that may be helpful12:09
Riddellwould indeed12:09
mhbokay12:09
jussi01Riddell: are we releasing tomorrow? or later?12:09
Riddelljussi01: yes, tomorrow12:09
Riddelldunno what time tomorrow12:09
jussi01great :)12:10
jussi01any ideas on what might make open office crash though standard test page prints fine :/12:11
ScottKjussi01: Which ooo application was it?12:11
jussi01writer12:12
ScottKPrints fine here.12:12
jussi01curious.... its a network printer if that makes any differece :/12:13
ScottKMine too.  HP 3380 on a jet direct box.12:13
jussi01this is a 305512:14
jussi01(hp)12:14
mhbHobbsee: too bad to hear you're leaving12:15
mhbare we planning to appoint a new member soonish or are we going to wait for the next expiry, which is at 2008-07-29 ?12:20
Riddellmhb: council renewal is due in May, we'll probably discuss it at UDS and appint new people at the next irc meeting after12:23
Artemis__FowlRiddell: from KGRUBEditor's changelog: "*ADDED: Automagic Kernel List support(found in Debian[-derived] distros)"12:23
mhbsure12:23
Artemis__FowlRiddell: these comments don't get deleted from now on12:23
RiddellArtemis__Fowl: ooh, lovely12:23
Artemis__FowlRiddell: (K/X)Ubuntu are fully compliant'12:23
mhbArtemis__Fowl: ah, so that's why you asked me about grubconfig12:24
Artemis__Fowlmhb: y12:24
* Artemis__Fowl will release in a couple of hours12:24
mhbArtemis__Fowl: well, it has a terrible name (I personally would like to see a GTK version of it, too - so we can share love (the editing code) with our very active Ubuntu friends)12:25
mhbArtemis__Fowl: just kidding about the name12:25
Artemis__Fowlmhb: maybe (I say maybe) I will rewrite the core of the app in std C++ not QT12:25
Artemis__Fowlmhb: so that they are able to create their own GTK-based app12:26
Artemis__Fowlin the last version I have done many new feature additions12:27
mhbArtemis__Fowl: that would be rad12:27
mhbArtemis__Fowl: I can help if you want12:27
Artemis__Fowlmhb: help is always welcome :-) we'll see12:28
mhbArtemis__Fowl: I presume I will be doing some intensive hacking during the UDS12:28
Artemis__Fowland here is a screenshot illustrating Automagic Kernels (in yellowish color): http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/thumbs/small/1245198_1lgk2/KGRUBEditor26.png12:29
Artemis__Fowloups12:30
Artemis__Fowlthumbnail12:30
Artemis__Fowlhttp://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1245198_1lgk2/KGRUBEditor26.png12:30
Hobbseemhb: you, or someone like you, can have a shot at it.  *shrug*12:30
mhbsomeone like me I hope, because I'm very busy with school lately12:30
mhbthe less I have to do, the better12:31
mhb:o)12:31
mhbArtemis__Fowl: nice12:31
Artemis__Fowlmhb: if you are to write the GTK frontend then you have much to do. the core is only a small piece of the app...12:32
mhbArtemis__Fowl: I'm not a UI specialist, but I'd want the default behaviour of KGrubeditor to not show popups at startup12:32
mhbit's not nice for apps to start bothering users at first run, after all, like the popups say, if you're not a specialist you do not want to move the Automagic options12:33
Artemis__Fowlmhb: hmm. this is temporary.12:33
mhbArtemis__Fowl: right, I'm just suggesting12:33
mhbArtemis__Fowl: so you host it at SF at SVN, right?12:33
mhbArtemis__Fowl: I'll fetch the code12:34
Artemis__Fowlmhb: in this last release I have added many new features and the code needs cleanup12:34
Artemis__Fowlmhb: or you'll probably find undocumented functions12:35
Artemis__Fowlmhb: anyway12:35
Artemis__Fowlmhb: SF page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kgrubeditor12:35
mhbthanks12:35
Artemis__Fowlmhb: I use SF only for SVN. official web page is on kde-apps.org12:36
mhbokies12:36
Artemis__Fowlmhb: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=7544212:36
* Artemis__Fowl has to leave. bbz12:37
mhbright, me too12:37
mhbsee you around12:37
kwwiiRiddell: once I get some more blank DVDs from the store and the download finishes, yes12:42
Riddellkwwii: not got rewritables?12:43
kwwiiRiddell: nope, never tried them actually12:43
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smarterhttp://kdemonkey.blogspot.com/2008/04/magic-trick.html << this has to be default for intrepid13:12
JontheEchidnaNeat trick13:28
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Seregakool :)13:42
jussio1very nice13:42
jpatricknixternal: re: openweek kde4 - I have no net connection at home so I doubt I'll make it...13:48
Riddelldavmor2: anything interesting happening at wolveslug tonight?14:49
davmor2Riddell: Barbie from the perl mongers is giving a talk and probably JJ too14:49
davmor2Normally very interesting.14:50
davmor2http://www.wolveslug.org.uk for more info14:50
Riddellnow if only I had a paddle, I could canoe there14:53
davmor2Riddell: attach the canoe to you bike you'll get the same sensation :D14:58
nixternalhey, does anyone want to redo a Kubuntu talk for OpenWeek next week? I am holding a Kubuntu talk on Monday15:31
nixternalthere are 3 slots open for OpenWeek, so someone step up and ADVOCATE! ADVOCATE! ADVOCATE!15:31
* jpatrick has school :(15:31
nixternalI am already doing Kubuntu, KDE 4, and Documentation15:31
nixternaljpatrick: ya, that is groovy and understandable :)15:32
jpatrickwell, the second part yes, not at all sure about the first15:33
nixternalanyone want to do a PyQt or a PyKDE talk? something? Kubuntu rocks, OpenWeek is a perfect time to let everyone know that! :)15:33
nixternalif nobody steps up, I am switching to openSUSE, Zonker told me and jcastro there are jobs coming for it as well :p15:34
nixternalmuhehehehehe15:34
Nightroseohnoes we are loosing the visternal to suse!!oneeleven111115:35
Nightrose:P15:35
nixternalfeel the love!15:36
Tm_Tnixternal: when?15:39
apacheloggerhm15:39
apacheloggerNightrose: but then he has to switch away from blista15:39
nixternalhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuOpenWeek15:39
apacheloggersusa > blista15:39
nixternalcheck out the TBD boxes, there are 3 left I think15:40
Nightroseapachelogger: good point15:40
Tm_Tnixternal: I'm on train, so veery limited bandwidth15:40
nixternalthat's fine, we (actually jcastro has about 2 hours to get them filled)15:40
apacheloggernixternal: I can do a talk about why apachelogger is the perfect man for world domination15:41
nixternalnot good for an IRC talk, better for a huge con talk where everyone can throw stuff at you then :p15:41
Tm_Tnixternal: ok, that's too soon for me, sowwy15:42
* apachelogger doesn't want to talk about that topic really15:42
nixternalOpen Slots:  Thu 1 May @ 16:00 UTC   ||    Sat 3 May @ 20:00 UTC    ||    Sat 3 May @ 21:00 UTC15:43
nixternalapachelogger: what do you want to talk about?15:43
apacheloggerme, myself and I15:44
apacheloggerI have no idea what I could talk about15:44
apacheloggerNightrose: suggestions?15:44
nixternalKubuntu! Kubuntu! Kubuntu!15:44
jpatrickcaKe15:45
Tm_Tshame I can't help15:45
Nightroseapachelogger: upstream relations?15:45
apacheloggerNightrose: we have upstream relations? Oo15:46
Nightrose;-)15:46
apacheloggerhow kubuntu does kick-ass release parties on IRC15:46
apacheloggerwhich leads back to the me, myself and I topic15:46
jpatrick-> #ubuntu-release-party15:46
apacheloggerjpatrick: nono15:46
apacheloggerwe have tha ultimate NightrosePardäää(tm)15:47
jpatrick\o/15:47
Nightrosehehe15:47
apacheloggernp: GNELLO'S VOCAL MIX) - MOBY15:48
apacheloggerthat tag looks broken really15:48
Tm_Tindeed15:49
talavisany hints what to do if the installer for 8.04 (alternate) keeps on crashing immidiately after selecting install?15:49
apacheloggernixternal: we could probably get someone from kubuntu-de.org to do a talk about something community/markting related15:49
apacheloggertalavis: did you ensure that the ISO and the CD are in proper shape?15:50
apacheloggeri.e. not broken15:50
talavisi have checked md5 for both iso and burned cd15:51
jjessemorning :)15:51
Tm_Tjjesse: noooooooooooo15:51
* Tm_T hides15:51
jjesse:)15:51
Tm_T;)15:51
jjessesome one is in a good modd15:51
Tm_TI am15:51
Tm_T:))15:53
Tm_T...and party goes on <315:54
apacheloggeroh yeah15:54
apacheloggerI think, I have a party wallpaper17:05
Riddellapachelogger: oh?17:07
apacheloggerRiddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img063.jpg17:08
emonkeyShould it really be named Kubuntu LTS? (https://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17)17:08
Riddellgoodness17:09
Riddellemonkey: nope17:09
apacheloggerRiddell: just perfect, isn't it?17:10
* apachelogger needs to buy the beer17:10
emonkeyapachelogger, nice now go ahead and make the picture available for all major resolutions, and then put it on kde-look ... ;-)17:18
apacheloggeremonkey: not just yet :D17:19
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stdinapachelogger: i can change status (though for that bug it takes like 5 mins), but I can't change importance. and and the 2nd identical diff was a mistake, but LP doesn't let you remove one attachments ;)18:34
ScottK2stdin: I think it does now.18:34
ScottK2If you click on edit attachment one of the options is remove it.18:35
stdinreally?18:35
* ScottK2 thinks so.18:35
stdinooh, didn't notice :)18:35
stdinyep, there's a big "Delete Attachment" button there :p18:36
apacheloggerlol18:36
apacheloggerstdin: well, forget about the status, I wasn't too serious on that comment ;-)18:37
stdinapachelogger: it took long enough to add all the "also effects", assign to me and upload the diffs. I should probably learn to use that new email feature some say18:38
alleeKnown or not: LifeCD: amarok does not recognize my  MP3 player.  Not in action selector dialog that pops up and not in amarok mediaplayer tab :(18:55
alleeMP3 player interface is USB mass storage device18:55
apacheloggerthough question18:55
apacheloggerI think I will go with not known18:56
* apachelogger is wondering what to win in 'known or not' anyway18:56
alleeapachelogger: save me time searching launchpad ;)  I've not followed Cd testing at all18:57
apacheloggerthat game doesn't sound funny at all18:57
apacheloggerallee: does the media device detected popup appear?18:57
alleeapachelogger: yes, and it lists digikam twice (in at least german setup)18:58
jjesseanyone else getting time outs in launchpad?18:58
apacheloggerallee: so what is the problem really?18:59
alleeapachelogger: popup does not offer to start amarok, and when amarok is started by hand, the media-player gives no way to acces the MP3 player (optinal amarok test inhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/KubuntuDesktop)19:00
alleeof Live CD session testing19:00
apacheloggerohaha19:00
apacheloggerthe KDE popup shouldn't offer amarok really19:00
apacheloggersince the player is only a usb mass storage19:01
alleeapachelogger: so what?  It's an MP3 player :(19:01
allees/:(/:D/19:01
apacheloggerallee: does it support a media transfer protocol?19:01
alleeapachelogger: kern log shows only USB mass storage19:02
apacheloggerso how should KDE know it is anything other than a usb mass storage? -.-19:02
alleeapachelogger: well, in digikam we just let the user decide (aka offer a digikam download icon in device pop up) for all USB mass storage19:03
stdinjjesse: on bug pages, yeah19:04
apacheloggerallee: digikam != KDE19:04
apacheloggerin amarok we do exactly the same19:04
apacheloggerthe reason is that when you start digikam you probably are going to plug in a camera, if you start amarok you are probably going to plug in a media device19:04
apacheloggerif you start KDE you are probably going to plug in anything19:05
alleeapachelogger: I'm confused.  amarok Media-Player tab  show 'Kein Geraet verfuegbar' (no device found).  So amarok 'ignores' the USB storage MP3 player19:06
apacheloggerok19:06
apacheloggerdas ist ein problem!19:06
apacheloggerNightrose: we forgot about the multi-lingual stuff again19:06
apacheloggerallee: was gibt `dcop kded mediamanager fullList` aus?19:07
alleekommt sofort19:08
alleeHardyapachelogger: http://paste.debian.net/1416/19:11
apacheloggeralleeHardy: listet amarok das device nachdem es mit KDE gemounted wurde?19:14
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alleeHardyapachelogger: uhm MP3 player FS is f*cked up.  I've tried with a 'real USB disk stick' with lots of mp3 on it.  Still: 'no device found' in amarok. ditto after restarting amarok.19:30
apacheloggerOo19:30
apacheloggeralleeHardy: when the device is mounted?19:30
alleeHardyapachelogger: yes19:32
apacheloggerthis is certainly not good19:32
apacheloggeralleeHardy: please try whether this still appears after an installation19:32
mhbevening lads19:34
alleeHardyapachelogger: ah, amarok installs no ServiceType for unmounted media.  So no entry in device popup dialog. http://paste.debian.net/1419/19:34
alleeHardymhb: hi mister kubuntu-testing ;)19:35
alleeHardymhmm, khelpcenter (click on About Kubuntu) has on the left hand side 2 entries for seach document (only kcm module entries are lised once)19:40
alleeHardy^^ in german liveCD19:40
* Artemis_Fowl is too tired to upload KGRUBEditor v0.7 and blog about it...Too many changes to talk about...19:53
mhbseveral people testing Kubuntu complaining about usplash not showing19:55
mhband i must admit my install also won't show usplash at all, switches to console immediately19:55
mhbwhat about you folks?19:55
mhbI guess it's less Kubuntu and more Ubuntu related19:55
ScottK2Works for me.19:56
Arby_am I right in thinking that kubuntu-kde4 comes without an IRC client installed?19:56
Arby_just doing some testing and realised this19:56
nosrednaekimit has kopete :)19:57
nosrednaekim(I think)19:57
alleemhb: slash is fine with livecd.  /me install currently to partiotion19:57
Arby_it does have kopete19:57
Arby_I didn't know kopete did IRC19:57
Arby_I've never used it19:57
nosrednaekimyeah.. it does19:58
jjessethe last i heard kopete didn't have irc was that fixed?19:58
nosrednaekimof course, Konversation is better19:58
nosrednaekimjjesse: oh... I didn't know that.... let me check19:58
jjessenosrednaekim: i ran into that problem documenting kde4 for the oficiial ubuntu book19:58
jjessei was told it was a bug w/ kopete and kde 4 port of it19:59
nosrednaekimwoah... you're right, its not there in the kde4 port19:59
jjessein the book, i tell the end user to install konverstation to access irc for help and support19:59
Arby_any idea why konversation wasn't included if there isn't a kde4 alternative?20:00
jjessei hope that's correct20:00
jjessebecause konverstation doesn't have a kde 4 port?20:00
nosrednaekimjjesse: seems to be correct20:00
stdinnosrednaekim: kopete(KDE4) does not do IRC20:03
alleemhb: booting and rebooting a freshly installed hardy and usplash was always there.  Kompared to hardy before, the usplash seem to use now native resulution.  not 800x600 (or whatever) scaled to full screen20:17
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ryanakcaRiddell: ping, can you check the testsite?20:26
* nosrednaekim asks ryanakca for the secret link20:27
mhballee: splendid20:27
alleemhb: :) but on the other hand knetworkmanger seem to be broken :(20:27
alleeicon in systray was spinning all the time. ifconfig and route show working setup.  wget works, but konquror didn't because it rely on knm's opinion.20:29
alleemhm, after rebooting once more knetworkmanager seem to work again.  Puh...20:33
alleeapachelogger: eh, amarok again: moving with mouse of an index.html file, I get always an error dialog complainng about invalid menu entry: http://paste.debian.net/1424/20:45
allee^^ index.html in dol3phin20:45
apacheloggerallee: d3lphin issue, not amarok related20:45
jeroen-call me crazy :-) , but how do I start vmware-player in Hardy (to test the iso; s)?20:51
nosrednaekimtype in vm and hit tab in the terminal20:52
jeroen-vmmouse_detect  vmstat20:54
jeroen-doesnt sound like vmware20:54
nosrednaekimodd20:55
alleeapachelogger: Ah, right, despite it's name the desktop file is from pkg dol3pin. The desktop file has no Exec= line.  Therefore the error :(20:57
apacheloggerI don't know why this desktop file is used in d3lphin anyway20:58
apacheloggerit's only useful for webbrowsers20:58
ryanakcaRiddell: also, did you want the Release Notes ported to kubuntu.org, or did you want them to be left on the wiki?20:59
emunixternal: Am I right, that there will be no significant difference between the Release Notes of the RC and the main Release?21:23
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ScottK2I really hope not.21:24
apacheloggerScottK2: I think emu meant the content rather than the topics :)21:33
* apachelogger is wondering whether we need a lot of cookies for the NightrosePartä(tm)21:34
apacheloggerwhy is it called NightrosePartä(tm) anyway?21:34
nixternalemu: actually yes there will be a significant difference because we won't do our notes on the wiki and will do a more informative version of the applications for the website instead21:34
Nightroseapachelogger: because you called it that way21:36
Nightrose;-)21:36
apacheloggerOo21:36
apacheloggerstrange drugs apparently21:36
apacheloggerNightrose: we should consider a different name that one is too long21:37
Nightrose;-)21:37
emunixternal: could you mail the new release notes on kubuntu-devel so I can translate them?21:37
apacheloggerNightrose: what's german for hardy?21:37
emuapachelogger: robust21:38
nosrednaekimbventremuger!21:38
Nightroseuhmmmm good question actually21:38
Nightroseah yea21:38
Nightroserobust21:38
nixternalemu: they stay hidden until release and JR approves them...after I work them up, he usually tweaks them a bit21:38
emuapachelogger: thats like we translated it21:38
apacheloggeremu: klingt schwul, gefällt mir :P21:38
apacheloggerNightrose: RobustParty21:39
NightroseoO21:39
apacheloggerstress the multilanguage promise of -devel21:39
emunixternal: mhhmm that makes things complicated. Are there an other way to get the stuff?21:40
apacheloggerNightrose: HardyPartä sounds too boring IMO21:40
Nightrosejep21:40
emuapachelogger: Just PartyHard!21:40
apacheloggerOo21:40
apacheloggeremu: you aren't a lot into partyin, are you?21:41
emuapachelogger: no not atm21:41
apacheloggerpartyhard is totally 90's21:41
apacheloggerthat's like good looking party promotional artwork21:41
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apacheloggerNightrose: HardyFeierei?21:43
Nightroseohnoes21:43
Nightrosethat sounds like....21:43
apacheloggeryes it does :P21:43
Nightrose:P21:43
apacheloggerwe need a different approach21:43
apacheloggera german adjective with an english noun21:44
apacheloggerboth starting with H21:44
Artemis_Fowlhttp://artfowl.blogspot.com/2008/04/kgrubeditor-version-07.html21:45
Artemis_Fowlall that's left is uploading...21:45
apacheloggerwoohooo21:46
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: shiny release21:46
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: 2 months...21:46
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: Automagic is the highlight feature for you ;-)21:47
apacheloggerwell, it just makes it more reasonable for the average user I guess ;-)21:47
Artemis_Fowlyep21:47
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: now you just need to wrap a kcm around it and we have a kick-ass grub editor tool for systemsettings-kde421:48
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: that's hell easy with all the modifications I did in this last release21:48
apacheloggercool21:48
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: I could do it in 5 mins21:48
Artemis_Fowlbut21:49
* Artemis_Fowl is a lazy dog21:49
* apachelogger declares: "I still love kgrubeditor"21:49
* apachelogger gives Artemis_Fowl a cookie21:49
apacheloggeryou got 6 months21:49
Artemis_FowliKnow ;-)21:49
apacheloggerNightrose: any suggestions for an adj with H?21:50
Nightrosenope21:50
Nightrosetoo busy with other stuff (TM)21:50
Nightrose:(21:50
apacheloggeruh, I have a party name21:50
apacheloggerWHUF21:50
apacheloggerwuschig, hell und freundlich21:51
apacheloggeremu: opinion?21:51
emuapachelogger: Sounds like a dogs party21:52
apacheloggerdogs are cool -.-21:52
apacheloggeremonkey: H**** Hummel Party21:53
apacheloggerjust what H***** to use21:53
emonkeyHalligalli21:54
Artemis_Fowllol21:55
apacheloggeremonkey: uh, I think I like21:55
apacheloggerHalligalli Hummel Party21:55
emonkeyll21:56
apacheloggernixternal: how does that sound in us-en?21:56
* Artemis_Fowl uploading the source package21:58
apacheloggeremonkey: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img065.jpg22:01
emonkeynice lol22:01
apacheloggeremonkey: do you think we should fill up the cookie stock?22:03
emonkeyyea would be gret22:04
emonkeygreaat22:04
apacheloggerthat looks flemish to me22:04
Artemis_Fowlok. I'm finished. only SF is left but I've no mood for FTP uploasd22:15
Artemis_Fowlapachelogger: will you package this version?22:15
apacheloggerArtemis_Fowl: as soon as I have, time which is in ... july I think22:17
apacheloggerafter the hardy release I will focus on my finals 100%22:17
Artemis_Fowlokiez22:18
* Artemis_Fowl heads for bed...22:18
r0uzicHi all22:46
CheGuevarahmmm22:46
CheGuevaraanyone using kde trunk22:46
apacheloggerCheGuevara: yes22:47
apacheloggerhey r0uzic22:47
CheGuevaraapachelogger, is it messed up for u or no?22:47
apacheloggeryes, plasma is22:47
apacheloggerbut that is normal plasma b0rkage these days :P22:47
CheGuevaraall icons are small and taskbar is all weird?22:48
r0uzicI wanted to report a failure unimportant Hardy Heron on a Macbook22:49
apacheloggerCheGuevara: yes22:50
TheInfinityr0uzic: theres not only one minor bug on macbook (pro)22:50
CheGuevarameh22:51
CheGuevarathx apachelogger22:51
apacheloggerCheGuevara: well, it's due to latest changes from the plasma sprint22:51
r0uzicTheInfinity: the bug is that the output of sound appears a red light22:52
CheGuevarayeah thats what i thought as well22:53
TheInfinityyou mean out of the headphone cnnector?22:54
r0uzicTheInfinity: yes22:54
TheInfinitythats normal22:54
apacheloggerRiddell: party preperation is finished, we just need some regular promotion via blogs and twitters tomorrow ... oh, and someone to do a radio show22:55
TheInfinitymacbooks have optical out IN headphone connection22:55
* apachelogger thinks emonkey would be perfect as radio moderator :P22:55
r0uzicTheInfinity: I never happened, nor dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy22:55
TheInfinitythats your optical 7.1 sound out you can see shining red ;)22:55
TheInfinityi think optical out support is quite new22:55
emonkeyapachelogger, ahm wat? I? really? which radio? And why is a banane yellow?22:56
CheGuevarashouldn't 4.1 alpha 1 be tagged by now22:56
r0uzicTheInfinity: and to turn off the red light?22:57
TheInfinityshould have soemthing to do with options you load with sound drivers22:57
TheInfinitydont know exacly22:57
r0uzicoks, very thanks TheInfinity :)22:57
apacheloggeremonkey: radio amarok22:58
apacheloggerhm22:58
apacheloggerbanana yellow22:58
apacheloggeremonkey: my guess is because of the colourant in the ehh22:58
apacheloggerskin22:58
apacheloggerwhatever the right word is22:59
emonkeyapachelogger, I've never done this bevore and I'm a bit afraid of doing it whitout any time to test it.22:59
apacheloggermy guess it is green before, because of the chlorophyl stuff22:59
apacheloggerthat gets removed when the fruit is aging22:59
apacheloggerwhich leafs the yellow colourant behind22:59
apacheloggeremonkey: you have until tomorrow evening :P23:00
emonkeyapachelogger, I've to learn linear algebra until friday, i've got an very important exam then23:00
apacheloggermeh23:01
apacheloggerI don't wanna do the radio show again23:01
* apachelogger needs to get the project rolling so he has a pool of good djs he can abuse for kubuntu release parties ;-)23:01
emonkeymaybe I've got the exam tomorrow, would be bad luck, but in this case I can do it23:01
r0uzicTheInfinity: it's off, in alsamixer command :D23:03
TheInfinity:)23:03

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