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| woodwizzle | How can I see a list of bugs i'm subscribed to? Under my profile there is a list subscribed bugs action but it doesn't list the closed bugs i'm subscribed to | 03:12 |
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| jamesh | woodwizzle: from the subscribed bugs page, pick advanced search | 03:17 |
| bimberi | woodwizzle: Advanced Search -> [Check all Statuses] | 03:17 |
| jamesh | then select what statuses you want | 03:17 |
| woodwizzle | cool thanks | 03:18 |
| Ademan | sorry, i know this is OT but #zope is apparently dead, mkzopeinstance shouldn't require root should it? | 04:16 |
| lifeless | no idea sorry Ademan | 04:17 |
| Ademan | no problem, you guys have already been more responsive than #zope lol | 04:17 |
| lifeless | if thats a zope2 thing then I doubt anyone here has current knowledge of it | 04:17 |
| lifeless | zope2 and 3 are very different | 04:18 |
| spiv | Ademan: my dim memory is that it doesn't | 04:20 |
| Ademan | well i'm speaking specifically about zope3, and i agree, and so does a doc that mkzopeinstance doesn't require root, but it's blowing up unless i run it as root | 04:21 |
| thumper | Ademan: I don't think so no | 04:21 |
| thumper | Ademan: it configures some stuff and makes a sandbox, but no, I don't think it needs a reboot | 04:21 |
| thumper | Ademan: sorry misread ;-) | 04:21 |
| Ademan | lol thumper | 04:22 |
| thumper | Ademan: I think I filed a bug about that sometime ago, and I thought it was fixed | 04:22 |
| thumper | Ademan: but I agree, it shouldn't need root | 04:23 |
| Ademan | hrm | 04:23 |
| Ademan | if it helps i'm using ubuntu, maybe the package just sucks | 04:23 |
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| N_I_E_L_S | \whois N_I_E_L_S | 08:28 |
| carlos | morning | 08:57 |
| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | morning carlos, mpt, mrevell | 09:07 |
| mrevell | morning! | 09:13 |
| ignas | hi | 09:35 |
| ignas | does anyone know how to enable "hardy" in ones PPA ? | 09:35 |
| ignas | i have tried uploading a package for hardy | 09:35 |
| ignas | but it failed with a chroot problem | 09:35 |
| ignas | now i can see hardy in the list of distributions | 09:35 |
| ignas | but hardy directory is still not in there | 09:36 |
| cprov | ignas: try again, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/196782 | 09:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 09:36 |
| ignas | cprov: but http://ppa.launchpad.net/schooltool-owners/ubuntu/dists/ | 09:36 |
| ignas | still does not have hardy in there | 09:36 |
| cprov | ignas: wait up to 20 minutes after you receive the upload acceptance email and it will be there. | 09:37 |
| ignas | so - i upload, get an error wait 20 minutes, then press "retry" | 09:37 |
| cprov | ignas: yes, pretty much it until it get this fixed (I'm working on it right now). | 09:41 |
| ignas | cprov: will i get in trouble if i'll try building 128 packages for hardy in my PPA? | 09:42 |
| cprov | ignas: no, this problem only affects the first build in the suite | 09:42 |
| cprov | ignas: after the 20 minutes it gone and your PPA can accept/build as many packages as you can upload ;) | 09:43 |
| ubotu | New bug: #220937 in launchpad "Restriction on bug subscriptions to avoid address gathering by spammers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220937 | 10:57 |
| Fujitsu | Is somebody going to fix samarium at some point? | 11:46 |
| silwol | i got a problem with bzr and paramiko installed in my home directory on a server without root access for me | 11:48 |
| silwol | installed paramiko using "python setup.py install --home ~" | 11:48 |
| silwol | did the same for bzr | 11:48 |
| silwol | when I want to branch from sftp url, I get | 11:49 |
| silwol | user@server:~/download/paramiko/paramiko-1.7.1$ bzr branch sftp://server/path/to/branch | 11:49 |
| silwol | bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://server/path/to/branch": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): cannot import name util | 11:49 |
| Fujitsu | cprov: Do PPA copies comply with version-ratchet? | 11:49 |
| silwol | anybody knows what the problem could be? | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | silwol: Try #bzr, perhaps. | 11:50 |
| silwol | Fujitsu: thanks... tried it, but it was empty... was on the wrong irc server ;-) | 11:51 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 11:51 |
| silwol | i was surprised that nobody had created a bzr chan | 11:52 |
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| cprov | Fujitsu: no, the versions are not checked. If you copy old packages they will simply get superseded. | 13:04 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 13:04 |
| Fujitsu | cprov: I see you've brought the first PPA builds chrootwaiting bug forward. Thanks. | 13:05 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: to when? | 13:06 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: yup, 1.2.4 issue. | 13:07 |
| Fujitsu | What cprov said. | 13:07 |
| ignas | the fact that i can add *anyone* as a subscriber to my branch, and can't remove the branch afterwards is a bug or a feature? | 13:08 |
| Fujitsu | ignas: YA LP misfeature. | 13:09 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 13:09 |
| ignas | and what would happen if someone would like add a branch, subscribe some huge launchpad group to it's checkins, and commit some lucrative comercial proposals involving nigeria and a few billions? ;) | 13:09 |
| Hobbsee | ignas: probably the same as showing propriatory milestones in all user search pages. | 13:10 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, can one subscribe others to one's own branches? | 13:10 |
| ignas | yes | 13:10 |
| ignas | and you can't unsubscribe them after that | 13:10 |
| soren | Yeah, just like you can subscribe anyone to your bugs. | 13:10 |
| Fujitsu | ignas: They can always unsubscribe themselves. | 13:10 |
| Fujitsu | But there are better ways to spam thousands of people. | 13:10 |
| Fujitsu | If you use a bug, for example. | 13:10 |
| ignas | problem is - i can't delete MY branch that I have added, because it has subscribers | 13:11 |
| ignas | because - only they have the permission to unsubscribe | 13:11 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm. | 13:11 |
| Fujitsu | I smell a bug-filing. | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | ignas: report it as a bug, wait the required 6 months, and it might get fixed? | 13:12 |
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| soren | Hobbsee, Fujitsu: Wow. You guys never get tired, do you? | 14:17 |
| Fujitsu | soren: Of what? | 14:19 |
| soren | trolling | 14:20 |
| Fujitsu | Where? | 14:20 |
| soren | ^ up there | 14:20 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not sure that calling ignas' lovely spam suggestion an LP misfeature is trolling. | 14:21 |
| soren | Had it been just a single incident, no. | 14:21 |
| Fujitsu | soren: I've not "trolled" much of late. | 14:21 |
| ignas | that, trolling? | 14:21 |
| ignas | it's not even close to trolling, at least by definitions of trolling that I know ;) | 14:22 |
| Fujitsu | soren: I admit having been rather too quick to criticise LP at times in the past. But not recently. | 14:22 |
| * Hobbsee wonders what soren's preferred method of saying "file a bug and wait" is, which does not class as trolling. | 14:23 | |
| soren | Fujitsu: Ok. In that case, I apologise. I don't follow this channel very closely, but just happened to stop by and saw what I thought was "the usual" stuff going on. | 14:23 |
| ignas | being cynical is not the same as trolling ;) | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | soren: it would be *really* nice if you could pay more attention, before shooting your mouth off in a public channel, thanks. If you're not going to pay close enough attention, then you'd be wise to keep your mouth *shut*. | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | Thank You. | 14:24 |
| soren | O_O | 14:24 |
| statik | this is really lame. i have to be in this channel, but it feels very unpleasant in here with all the constant complaining | 14:25 |
| soren | Sorry for the noise. | 14:26 |
| * soren wanders off and tries to make himself useful again | 14:26 | |
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| ignas | is it normal for packages to be stuck in "build will start in 41 seconds" | 15:06 |
| ignas | for like 10 minutes | 15:07 |
| ignas | https://edge.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/+archive/+builds | 15:07 |
| Fujitsu | The build start estimation stuff is very, very new. | 15:07 |
| Fujitsu | Not on production yet. | 15:07 |
| Fujitsu | And obviously a rather inexact science, particularly as your packages haven't been built before. | 15:07 |
| matsubara | "five minutes turkish" | 15:08 |
| ignas | i understand the part - "they don't know how long the build will take" | 15:08 |
| ignas | but not the "they don't know when they'll start building my packages" ;) | 15:09 |
| kiko | ignas, if we don't know how long builds will take, then how do we know when your build will start? | 15:09 |
| Hobbsee | ignas: they don't know exactly how long all the other builds will take | 15:09 |
| kiko | al-maisan, see above? | 15:09 |
| al-maisan | kiko: sure .. do you want me to comment? | 15:09 |
| ignas | i see, kind of makes sense I guess, just that I had 2 builders working for me for like 4 hours, and bam - theyr'e working for someone else now ;) | 15:10 |
| Fujitsu | Where has samarium run off to since the power outage? | 15:10 |
| kiko | al-maisan, what sort of question is that? of course. :) | 15:11 |
| al-maisan | kiko: fine :-) | 15:11 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: abducted. | 15:14 |
| al-maisan | ignas: for packages that were built before we actually take the most recent build duration when estimating the build job start time .. | 15:14 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: FYI, the queue accepting bug is now non-critical for hardy (too late), but it would be great to see it fixed and tested for intrepid (particularly after the new annoucements) | 15:15 |
| al-maisan | .. for packages that are "new" (i.e. no previous build duration information) we analysed the historical build duration data and distilled a build rate (KB/second) .. | 15:16 |
| al-maisan | .. that we use in conjunction with the package size to estimate a build duration. | 15:16 |
| Fujitsu | How close is the correlation between size and build time? Would it be more useful to complain that there's insufficient data to calculate it? | 15:17 |
| ignas | i see, just that Pending (0) and apparent lack of activity got me paranoid | 15:17 |
| al-maisan | This was one way to go about it but we felt that it diminishes the value of the feature .. | 15:18 |
| ignas | and there is no way to see how many other packages are in front of you | 15:18 |
| al-maisan | .. and we felt reasonably confident that the conclusions we drew from the historical build data were good enough for estimation .. | 15:19 |
| kiko | ignas, I think that's al-maisan's next step, providing a view on the queue. | 15:20 |
| ignas | i see | 15:20 |
| ignas | so there is no reason to worry and I should just keep waiting | 15:20 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, intellectronica wrote a patch yesterday that we'll CP today to try and see if the problem gets solved, so stay tuned for some testing tomorrow. | 15:21 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: \o/ | 15:21 |
| kiko | Hobbsee, it doesn't fix the problem entirely -- i.e. the page may still be slow -- but I think it might be enough of a fix | 15:22 |
| kiko | (to stop the page from timing out) | 15:22 |
| ignas | Estimated build start: 0 seconds ago :D (it still hasn't started) | 15:22 |
| ignas | but the message looks funny ;) | 15:23 |
| al-maisan | ignas: the software is brand new and not deployed on the production server yet.. | 15:23 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: that'd be good | 15:23 |
| al-maisan | once version 1.2.4 is out it should work as expected | 15:23 |
| ignas | al-maisan: i know, i just don't have anything else to do while waiting for the last 2 packages ;) | 15:23 |
| al-maisan | OK :-) | 15:24 |
| ignas | al-maisan: i am going to get some food now ;) | 15:24 |
| ignas | see you ;) | 15:24 |
| al-maisan | Good idea .. :-) | 15:24 |
| al-maisan | see ya! | 15:24 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #221037 in launchpad "Move webservice.txt to lazr/doc and make it run without any layers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221037 | 15:46 |
| dholbach | hiya | 15:48 |
| jtv | hi dholbach | 15:48 |
| dholbach | can somebody give me a hint what we could do in the team setup so the technical-board team would not get emails for people joining/departin the ubuntu-universe-contributors team which motu-council is owner of | 15:49 |
| dholbach | ? | 15:49 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: i don't think you can. | 15:52 |
| Hobbsee | there's no mailing list for admins | 15:53 |
| dholbach | salgado: ^ can you think of something to fix that? or is there just "make somebody else the owner"? | 15:55 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: that's all i've found. | 15:57 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if it sends directly to all the team owners individually, or to their team mail address | 15:57 | |
| salgado | dholbach, just a minute | 15:58 |
| dholbach | salgado: take your time | 15:59 |
| salgado | dholbach, the technical-board team gets these notifications because motu-council has no contact address (thus Launchpad notifications are sent to all team members) | 16:00 |
| salgado | would it be a problem to add a contact address to motu-council? | 16:01 |
| dholbach | salgado: it seems that the team had a single owner before who did not get the notifications himself | 16:03 |
| salgado | dholbach, I don't see what you mean | 16:07 |
| dholbach | salgado: motu-council was just recently made owner of the team, it was a person before who did not get join/depart notifications - what might be the reason for that? | 16:08 |
| salgado | dholbach, maybe the old owner had left the team while still being the owner? (that's currently possible) | 16:09 |
| dholbach | ahhh I see | 16:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #221047 in launchpad "Project group milestone view broken" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221047 | 16:11 |
| crimsun | Ng: thanks for terminator, BTW. </driveby> | 16:15 |
| Ng | :D | 16:15 |
| dholbach | salgado: seems he was member, owner and admin before. hmmm | 16:23 |
| salgado | dholbach, that's weird | 16:25 |
| dholbach | is there anything that changed in the admin/owner/team mail notification world? | 16:26 |
| salgado | nope | 16:28 |
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| fta | samarium (xen-i386) NOT OK : (113, 'No route to host') (AUTO) | 17:09 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #221079 in launchpad "Not obvious who receives team membership notification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221079 | 17:15 |
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| kiko | Hobbsee, the patch has been cherry-picked. can you check the +queue page again when you have a moment? | 18:48 |
| mdz | kiko: I just got OOPS-844EC76 trying to look at a bug related to the 8.04 release | 18:50 |
| mdz | kiko: and ...77 on reload; it seems to be persistent | 18:50 |
| mdz | kiko: the page is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/220817 | 18:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220817 in openoffice.org "Xubuntu Hardy: ubiquity installs Open Office during installation" [High,In progress] | 18:51 |
| kiko | mdz, is it a timeout or an oops proper? | 18:51 |
| mdz | kiko: timeout | 18:51 |
| kiko | mdz, fascinating. | 18:51 |
| mdz | 3x in a row now | 18:51 |
| kiko | there's something broken in that query. | 18:52 |
| * kiko grumbles | 18:52 | |
| kiko | BjornT, hey | 18:53 |
| mdz | kiko: it was fine just a few minutes ago | 18:54 |
| kiko | mdz, a fix was just cherry-picked. | 18:54 |
| kiko | it regressed this I suspect. | 18:54 |
| kiko | mdz, I'm looking into it | 18:55 |
| mdz | kiko: thanks | 18:55 |
| * BjornT looks | 18:57 | |
| kiko | BjornT, I have the problem | 18:57 |
| kiko | mdz, yuck. arguably a postgresql bug. ORs in the query breaking things up completely. | 18:58 |
| mdz | kiko: related to the cherrypick or coincidental? | 19:00 |
| kiko | no, related, definitely. | 19:01 |
| kiko | mdz, will have a fix cowboyed shortly | 19:02 |
| kiko | or perhaps it's just easier to revert, hmmm | 19:02 |
| mdz | kiko: I am a big fan of reverting in these situations | 19:02 |
| mdz | and testing a proper fix later | 19:02 |
| kiko | it depends on the process we need to follow, I'll chat with BjornT to figure it out | 19:03 |
| kiko | mdz, you can use lpnet, not edge, meanwhile. | 19:03 |
| kiko | mdz, you copy? | 19:09 |
| afflux | kiko: I got multiple timeouts (eg. OOPS-844EC88) when changing the status and adding a comment to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/220645/ , maybe that's related | 19:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220645 in ubuntu "package ubuntu-desktop 1.102 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Medium,Incomplete] | 19:09 |
| kiko | yes | 19:09 |
| kiko | it is | 19:09 |
| afflux | fokay | 19:10 |
| mdz | kiko: will I not get automagically redirected? | 19:10 |
| afflux | huh, -f | 19:10 |
| afflux | mdz: you can disable that on http://launchpad.net, IIRC | 19:10 |
| kiko | mdz, afflux: visit https://launchpad.net/ and click on "disable" | 19:10 |
| mdz | kiko: I sent in my comment via email, presumably that worked OK | 19:10 |
| kiko | mdz, afflux: BjornT and I will have this fixed in a jiffy meanwhile | 19:10 |
| kiko | mdz, yes, it will. | 19:11 |
| afflux | kiko: thanks | 19:11 |
| smagoun | Is there an LP dev/admin around? I'm having trouble getting to bugs on edge.lp.net: | 19:22 |
| smagoun | Error ID: OOPS-844EC100 Error ID: OOPS-844EA149 | 19:22 |
| matsubara | smagoun: BjornT and kiko are working on a fix for it. | 19:23 |
| smagoun | matsubara: good to know, thanks for the prompt reply! | 19:23 |
| matsubara | smagoun: meanwhile you can disable the redirect to edge in https://launchpad.net and use the regular launchpad.net site | 19:23 |
| kiko | mdz, smagoun: fixed | 20:31 |
| smagoun | kiko: thanks! | 20:31 |
| Mez | can I request a new licence to be added to launchpad | 20:37 |
| Mez | (the WTFPL) | 20:38 |
| Mez | http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/COPYING | 20:38 |
| kiko | Mez, not really. come on! :) | 20:39 |
| laga | szmtag zaehler | 20:39 |
| Mez | kiko, why not? It's a valid OSS licence (what I'm planning to release my next project under) | 20:39 |
| laga | huh? where did that come from? sorry | 20:39 |
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| mdz | kiko-afk: thanks for the quick turnaround | 20:58 |
| asabil | hi all | 21:06 |
| asabil | can any launchpad admin fix the svn repository for this: https://code.launchpad.net/vala/trunk ? | 21:06 |
| jcastro | is it pointing to the wrong thing? | 21:09 |
| asabil | yes | 21:13 |
| asabil | the trailing /vala needs to be removed | 21:13 |
| asabil | it is pointing to a subfolder in the project :/ | 21:13 |
| matsubara | done asabil | 21:17 |
| andreas | in ppa, how do I interpret the "build score"? I searched help.launchpad.net but didn't find a meaning | 21:25 |
| cprov | andreas: it works like 'build priority', the higher the faster a build will be dispatched. | 21:26 |
| andreas | ok, the higher the better, but I don't know the other scores, so just a number doesn't mean much. I got 1005, for example | 21:27 |
| cprov | andreas: in 1.2.4 they will be converted in 'time_to_dispatch' and you will see 'will be dispatched in X minutes' | 21:28 |
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| hollinch | BalaamsMiracle | 22:22 |
| sm | g'day all.. thanks for launchpad mail lists | 22:25 |
| sm | is there a way to use one for casual users and existing subscribers, without requiring them all to join launchpad and the team ? | 22:26 |
| sm | even if they are read-only ? | 22:26 |
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