=== mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz [03:12] How can I see a list of bugs i'm subscribed to? Under my profile there is a list subscribed bugs action but it doesn't list the closed bugs i'm subscribed to [03:17] woodwizzle: from the subscribed bugs page, pick advanced search [03:17] woodwizzle: Advanced Search -> [Check all Statuses] [03:17] then select what statuses you want [03:18] cool thanks [04:16] sorry, i know this is OT but #zope is apparently dead, mkzopeinstance shouldn't require root should it? [04:17] no idea sorry Ademan [04:17] no problem, you guys have already been more responsive than #zope lol [04:17] if thats a zope2 thing then I doubt anyone here has current knowledge of it [04:18] zope2 and 3 are very different [04:20] Ademan: my dim memory is that it doesn't [04:21] well i'm speaking specifically about zope3, and i agree, and so does a doc that mkzopeinstance doesn't require root, but it's blowing up unless i run it as root [04:21] Ademan: I don't think so no [04:21] Ademan: it configures some stuff and makes a sandbox, but no, I don't think it needs a reboot [04:21] Ademan: sorry misread ;-) [04:22] lol thumper [04:22] Ademan: I think I filed a bug about that sometime ago, and I thought it was fixed [04:23] Ademan: but I agree, it shouldn't need root [04:23] hrm [04:23] if it helps i'm using ubuntu, maybe the package just sucks === asac_ is now known as asac [08:28] \whois N_I_E_L_S [08:57] morning [09:00] Goooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [09:07] morning carlos, mpt, mrevell [09:13] morning! [09:35] hi [09:35] does anyone know how to enable "hardy" in ones PPA ? [09:35] i have tried uploading a package for hardy [09:35] but it failed with a chroot problem [09:35] now i can see hardy in the list of distributions [09:36] but hardy directory is still not in there [09:36] ignas: try again, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/196782 [09:36] Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) [09:36] cprov: but http://ppa.launchpad.net/schooltool-owners/ubuntu/dists/ [09:36] still does not have hardy in there [09:37] ignas: wait up to 20 minutes after you receive the upload acceptance email and it will be there. [09:37] so - i upload, get an error wait 20 minutes, then press "retry" [09:41] ignas: yes, pretty much it until it get this fixed (I'm working on it right now). [09:42] cprov: will i get in trouble if i'll try building 128 packages for hardy in my PPA? [09:42] ignas: no, this problem only affects the first build in the suite [09:43] ignas: after the 20 minutes it gone and your PPA can accept/build as many packages as you can upload ;) [10:57] New bug: #220937 in launchpad "Restriction on bug subscriptions to avoid address gathering by spammers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220937 [11:46] Is somebody going to fix samarium at some point? [11:48] i got a problem with bzr and paramiko installed in my home directory on a server without root access for me [11:48] installed paramiko using "python setup.py install --home ~" [11:48] did the same for bzr [11:49] when I want to branch from sftp url, I get [11:49] user@server:~/download/paramiko/paramiko-1.7.1$ bzr branch sftp://server/path/to/branch [11:49] bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://server/path/to/branch": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): cannot import name util [11:49] cprov: Do PPA copies comply with version-ratchet? [11:50] anybody knows what the problem could be? [11:50] silwol: Try #bzr, perhaps. [11:51] Fujitsu: thanks... tried it, but it was empty... was on the wrong irc server ;-) [11:51] Haha. [11:52] i was surprised that nobody had created a bzr chan === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko === mrevell is now known as mrevell-luncheon [13:04] Fujitsu: no, the versions are not checked. If you copy old packages they will simply get superseded. [13:04] OK. [13:05] cprov: I see you've brought the first PPA builds chrootwaiting bug forward. Thanks. === fta_ is now known as fta [13:06] Fujitsu: to when? [13:07] Fujitsu: yup, 1.2.4 issue. [13:07] What cprov said. [13:08] the fact that i can add *anyone* as a subscriber to my branch, and can't remove the branch afterwards is a bug or a feature? [13:09] ignas: YA LP misfeature. [13:09] nice [13:09] and what would happen if someone would like add a branch, subscribe some huge launchpad group to it's checkins, and commit some lucrative comercial proposals involving nigeria and a few billions? ;) [13:10] ignas: probably the same as showing propriatory milestones in all user search pages. [13:10] Hm, can one subscribe others to one's own branches? [13:10] yes [13:10] and you can't unsubscribe them after that [13:10] Yeah, just like you can subscribe anyone to your bugs. [13:10] ignas: They can always unsubscribe themselves. [13:10] But there are better ways to spam thousands of people. [13:10] If you use a bug, for example. [13:11] problem is - i can't delete MY branch that I have added, because it has subscribers [13:11] because - only they have the permission to unsubscribe [13:11] Hmm. [13:12] I smell a bug-filing. [13:12] ignas: report it as a bug, wait the required 6 months, and it might get fixed? === mrevell-luncheon is now known as mrevell === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === barry-away is now known as barry === mdz_ is now known as mdz === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [14:17] Hobbsee, Fujitsu: Wow. You guys never get tired, do you? [14:19] soren: Of what? [14:20] trolling [14:20] Where? [14:20] ^ up there [14:21] I'm not sure that calling ignas' lovely spam suggestion an LP misfeature is trolling. [14:21] Had it been just a single incident, no. [14:21] soren: I've not "trolled" much of late. [14:21] that, trolling? [14:22] it's not even close to trolling, at least by definitions of trolling that I know ;) [14:22] soren: I admit having been rather too quick to criticise LP at times in the past. But not recently. [14:23] * Hobbsee wonders what soren's preferred method of saying "file a bug and wait" is, which does not class as trolling. [14:23] Fujitsu: Ok. In that case, I apologise. I don't follow this channel very closely, but just happened to stop by and saw what I thought was "the usual" stuff going on. [14:24] being cynical is not the same as trolling ;) [14:24] soren: it would be *really* nice if you could pay more attention, before shooting your mouth off in a public channel, thanks. If you're not going to pay close enough attention, then you'd be wise to keep your mouth *shut*. [14:24] Thank You. [14:24] O_O [14:25] this is really lame. i have to be in this channel, but it feels very unpleasant in here with all the constant complaining [14:26] Sorry for the noise. [14:26] * soren wanders off and tries to make himself useful again === gmb_ is now known as gmb [15:06] is it normal for packages to be stuck in "build will start in 41 seconds" [15:07] for like 10 minutes [15:07] https://edge.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/+archive/+builds [15:07] The build start estimation stuff is very, very new. [15:07] Not on production yet. [15:07] And obviously a rather inexact science, particularly as your packages haven't been built before. [15:08] "five minutes turkish" [15:08] i understand the part - "they don't know how long the build will take" [15:09] but not the "they don't know when they'll start building my packages" ;) [15:09] ignas, if we don't know how long builds will take, then how do we know when your build will start? [15:09] ignas: they don't know exactly how long all the other builds will take [15:09] al-maisan, see above? [15:09] kiko: sure .. do you want me to comment? [15:10] i see, kind of makes sense I guess, just that I had 2 builders working for me for like 4 hours, and bam - theyr'e working for someone else now ;) [15:10] Where has samarium run off to since the power outage? [15:11] al-maisan, what sort of question is that? of course. :) [15:11] kiko: fine :-) [15:14] Fujitsu: abducted. [15:14] ignas: for packages that were built before we actually take the most recent build duration when estimating the build job start time .. [15:15] kiko: FYI, the queue accepting bug is now non-critical for hardy (too late), but it would be great to see it fixed and tested for intrepid (particularly after the new annoucements) [15:16] .. for packages that are "new" (i.e. no previous build duration information) we analysed the historical build duration data and distilled a build rate (KB/second) .. [15:16] .. that we use in conjunction with the package size to estimate a build duration. [15:17] How close is the correlation between size and build time? Would it be more useful to complain that there's insufficient data to calculate it? [15:17] i see, just that Pending (0) and apparent lack of activity got me paranoid [15:18] This was one way to go about it but we felt that it diminishes the value of the feature .. [15:18] and there is no way to see how many other packages are in front of you [15:19] .. and we felt reasonably confident that the conclusions we drew from the historical build data were good enough for estimation .. [15:20] ignas, I think that's al-maisan's next step, providing a view on the queue. [15:20] i see [15:20] so there is no reason to worry and I should just keep waiting [15:21] Hobbsee, intellectronica wrote a patch yesterday that we'll CP today to try and see if the problem gets solved, so stay tuned for some testing tomorrow. [15:21] kiko: \o/ [15:22] Hobbsee, it doesn't fix the problem entirely -- i.e. the page may still be slow -- but I think it might be enough of a fix [15:22] (to stop the page from timing out) [15:22] Estimated build start: 0 seconds ago :D (it still hasn't started) [15:23] but the message looks funny ;) [15:23] ignas: the software is brand new and not deployed on the production server yet.. [15:23] kiko: that'd be good [15:23] once version 1.2.4 is out it should work as expected [15:23] al-maisan: i know, i just don't have anything else to do while waiting for the last 2 packages ;) [15:24] OK :-) [15:24] al-maisan: i am going to get some food now ;) [15:24] see you ;) [15:24] Good idea .. :-) [15:24] see ya! === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [15:46] New bug: #221037 in launchpad "Move webservice.txt to lazr/doc and make it run without any layers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221037 [15:48] hiya [15:48] hi dholbach [15:49] can somebody give me a hint what we could do in the team setup so the technical-board team would not get emails for people joining/departin the ubuntu-universe-contributors team which motu-council is owner of [15:49] ? [15:52] dholbach: i don't think you can. [15:53] there's no mailing list for admins [15:55] salgado: ^ can you think of something to fix that? or is there just "make somebody else the owner"? [15:57] dholbach: that's all i've found. [15:57] * Hobbsee wonders if it sends directly to all the team owners individually, or to their team mail address [15:58] dholbach, just a minute [15:59] salgado: take your time [16:00] dholbach, the technical-board team gets these notifications because motu-council has no contact address (thus Launchpad notifications are sent to all team members) [16:01] would it be a problem to add a contact address to motu-council? [16:03] salgado: it seems that the team had a single owner before who did not get the notifications himself [16:07] dholbach, I don't see what you mean [16:08] salgado: motu-council was just recently made owner of the team, it was a person before who did not get join/depart notifications - what might be the reason for that? [16:09] dholbach, maybe the old owner had left the team while still being the owner? (that's currently possible) [16:09] ahhh I see [16:11] New bug: #221047 in launchpad "Project group milestone view broken" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221047 [16:15] Ng: thanks for terminator, BTW. [16:15] :D [16:23] salgado: seems he was member, owner and admin before. hmmm [16:25] dholbach, that's weird [16:26] is there anything that changed in the admin/owner/team mail notification world? [16:28] nope === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [17:09] samarium (xen-i386) NOT OK : (113, 'No route to host') (AUTO) === kiko is now known as kiko-fud [17:15] New bug: #221079 in launchpad "Not obvious who receives team membership notification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221079 === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:48] Hobbsee, the patch has been cherry-picked. can you check the +queue page again when you have a moment? [18:50] kiko: I just got OOPS-844EC76 trying to look at a bug related to the 8.04 release [18:50] kiko: and ...77 on reload; it seems to be persistent [18:51] kiko: the page is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/220817 [18:51] Launchpad bug 220817 in openoffice.org "Xubuntu Hardy: ubiquity installs Open Office during installation" [High,In progress] [18:51] mdz, is it a timeout or an oops proper? [18:51] kiko: timeout [18:51] mdz, fascinating. [18:51] 3x in a row now [18:52] there's something broken in that query. [18:52] * kiko grumbles [18:53] BjornT, hey [18:54] kiko: it was fine just a few minutes ago [18:54] mdz, a fix was just cherry-picked. [18:54] it regressed this I suspect. [18:55] mdz, I'm looking into it [18:55] kiko: thanks [18:57] * BjornT looks [18:57] BjornT, I have the problem [18:58] mdz, yuck. arguably a postgresql bug. ORs in the query breaking things up completely. [19:00] kiko: related to the cherrypick or coincidental? [19:01] no, related, definitely. [19:02] mdz, will have a fix cowboyed shortly [19:02] or perhaps it's just easier to revert, hmmm [19:02] kiko: I am a big fan of reverting in these situations [19:02] and testing a proper fix later [19:03] it depends on the process we need to follow, I'll chat with BjornT to figure it out [19:03] mdz, you can use lpnet, not edge, meanwhile. [19:09] mdz, you copy? [19:09] kiko: I got multiple timeouts (eg. OOPS-844EC88) when changing the status and adding a comment to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/220645/ , maybe that's related [19:09] Launchpad bug 220645 in ubuntu "package ubuntu-desktop 1.102 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Medium,Incomplete] [19:09] yes [19:09] it is [19:10] fokay [19:10] kiko: will I not get automagically redirected? [19:10] huh, -f [19:10] mdz: you can disable that on http://launchpad.net, IIRC [19:10] mdz, afflux: visit https://launchpad.net/ and click on "disable" [19:10] kiko: I sent in my comment via email, presumably that worked OK [19:10] mdz, afflux: BjornT and I will have this fixed in a jiffy meanwhile [19:11] mdz, yes, it will. [19:11] kiko: thanks [19:22] Is there an LP dev/admin around? I'm having trouble getting to bugs on edge.lp.net: [19:22] Error ID: OOPS-844EC100 Error ID: OOPS-844EA149 [19:23] smagoun: BjornT and kiko are working on a fix for it. [19:23] matsubara: good to know, thanks for the prompt reply! [19:23] smagoun: meanwhile you can disable the redirect to edge in https://launchpad.net and use the regular launchpad.net site [20:31] mdz, smagoun: fixed [20:31] kiko: thanks! [20:37] can I request a new licence to be added to launchpad [20:38] (the WTFPL) [20:38] http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/COPYING [20:39] Mez, not really. come on! :) [20:39] szmtag zaehler [20:39] kiko, why not? It's a valid OSS licence (what I'm planning to release my next project under) [20:39] huh? where did that come from? sorry === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [20:58] kiko-afk: thanks for the quick turnaround [21:06] hi all [21:06] can any launchpad admin fix the svn repository for this: https://code.launchpad.net/vala/trunk ? [21:09] is it pointing to the wrong thing? [21:13] yes [21:13] the trailing /vala needs to be removed [21:13] it is pointing to a subfolder in the project :/ [21:17] done asabil [21:25] in ppa, how do I interpret the "build score"? I searched help.launchpad.net but didn't find a meaning [21:26] andreas: it works like 'build priority', the higher the faster a build will be dispatched. [21:27] ok, the higher the better, but I don't know the other scores, so just a number doesn't mean much. I got 1005, for example [21:28] andreas: in 1.2.4 they will be converted in 'time_to_dispatch' and you will see 'will be dispatched in X minutes' === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:22] BalaamsMiracle [22:25] g'day all.. thanks for launchpad mail lists [22:26] is there a way to use one for casual users and existing subscribers, without requiring them all to join launchpad and the team ? [22:26] even if they are read-only ? === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson === barry is now known as barry-away