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| asac | bdmurray: whats the state of bughelper? | 01:37 |
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| bdmurray | asac: that sounds like a loaded question. it's pretty good barring one launchpad issue | 01:39 |
| asac | ok | 01:40 |
| asac | for me it crashes on firefox-3.0 | 01:40 |
| asac | vino + xulrunner-1.9 work | 01:40 |
| asac | even bugnumbers -p firefox-3.0 crashes | 01:40 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I'll look into it | 01:40 |
| bdmurray | this is from Hardy? | 01:41 |
| asac | sorry, didn't try xulrunner-1.9 before and thought it was crashing on everything. | 01:41 |
| asac | because i couldn't imagine why bugnumbers might fail | 01:41 |
| asac | bdmurray: yes, hardy almost latest | 01:41 |
| bdmurray | try --parsemode=html | 01:41 |
| asac | a day old or so | 01:41 |
| asac | bdmurray: can i use that option everywhere? | 01:41 |
| asac | e.g. bugnumbers? or just bughelper iteself? | 01:41 |
| bdmurray | asac: yes, everywhere | 01:42 |
| * asac tries bugnumbers | 01:42 | |
| bdmurray | there is a problem with the attachments listings in Launchpad or p-l-b's parsing of them | 01:42 |
| asac | bdmurray: ok so i probably cannot run a full query? | 01:43 |
| asac | i initially ended up in this because i wanted to search attachments ... like | 01:44 |
| bdmurray | asac: if you use --parsemode=text and a bug has a bad attachment it'll error out | 01:44 |
| asac | bughelper -T firefox-3.0 "nsNavHistoryResult" "Navigation Crash" -p firefox-3.0 | 01:44 |
| asac | what are bad attachments? and why does it matter for bugnumbers? | 01:44 |
| bdmurray | badly formatted that is | 01:44 |
| asac | do we know what that means? or when that happens? | 01:44 |
| bdmurray | yes, let me find the launchpad bug | 01:45 |
| asac | no need to | 01:45 |
| asac | i just need to workaround right now. | 01:45 |
| bdmurray | right and --parsemode=html should work around it | 01:45 |
| asac | ok let me run that query with html | 01:46 |
| asac | :) | 01:46 |
| asac | lets see how far we get | 01:46 |
| * asac wonders how long it will take :/ | 01:46 | |
| bdmurray | it worked for me | 01:47 |
| bdmurray | well, or bugnumbers did | 01:47 |
| asac | bdmurray: how many hours do you think that query might take? | 01:57 |
| asac | with nothing cached | 01:57 |
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| alex_mayorga | bdmurray, ping :) | 04:05 |
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| Iulian | Hey | 11:14 |
| ubuntudemon | Hey. Can I do anything to provide more information to this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/220640 | 12:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | 12:34 |
| marnanel | ubuntudemon: I don't think so, but it's possible/probable that none of the people dealing with it are on this channel at present (or awake) | 12:49 |
| marnanel | ubuntudemon: But I wish all my bug reporters were as thorough as that! | 12:49 |
| james_w | hi marnanel | 12:49 |
| james_w | ubuntudemon: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1507 looks similar as well, although the initial reporter had a different key mgmt | 12:50 |
| ubotu | www.intellinuxwireless.org bug 1507 in WPA & WPA2 "iwlwifi-1.1.19 doesn't associate to WPA-EAP protected network" [Major,Assigned] | 12:50 |
| james_w | ubuntudemon: I also think there is enough information there that you could file a report upstream. | 12:54 |
| marnanel | james_w: hi | 12:55 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w : thanks I will first read through 1507 and 1522 right now. After that I will report a bug upstream if necessary | 13:02 |
| james_w | ubuntudemon: thanks, that would be very useful. | 13:03 |
| ubuntudemon | you are welcome. I'm not only helping Ubuntu but also helping myself by doing this. I would like to upgrade to hardy but I can't do that if I can't get on my university network. | 13:04 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w Is it possible to download newer iwl3945 driver+mac80211+microcode image from intellinuxwireless.org and use it from the live cd ? | 13:11 |
| james_w | ubuntudemon: probably | 13:12 |
| james_w | you shouldn't need to reboot to do that, so you should be ok | 13:12 |
| james_w | as long as you have internet access to get the stuff :-) | 13:12 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w I have a usb stick here | 13:17 |
| james_w | ah, that's much easier | 13:17 |
| ubuntudemon | It's probably bit a microcode error because I followed this and I'm not seeing that kind of errors : http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=fw_error_report | 13:17 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w I should probably follow : http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Download right ? | 13:23 |
| james_w | I don't know, sorry. | 13:25 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w I'm first going to report a new upstream bug because I get different error messages | 13:33 |
| james_w | sounds sensible | 13:33 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w getting someone to confirm the bug might be hard | 13:36 |
| james_w | yup, but there's plenty of information, so a developer may see what's wrong, or be able to ask you to do tests to narrow it down. | 13:36 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w I submitted the bug | 13:58 |
| ubuntudemon | james_w : http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1658 | 13:58 |
| ubotu | www.intellinuxwireless.org bug 1658 in WEP "[Ubuntu Hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. Worked in Ubuntu Gutsy with ipw3945+wpasupplicant." [Major,New] | 13:58 |
| james_w | cool, thanks | 14:00 |
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| asac | ubuntudemon: try the driver from linux-backport-modules | 14:11 |
| asac | it has the scan_capa patch which should fix corner cases for hidden networks | 14:12 |
| asac | maybe LEAP as well | 14:13 |
| asac | i don't bother to try upstream driver | 14:13 |
| asac | s/don't/won't/ | 14:13 |
| asac | james_w: ^^ | 14:13 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : I installed linux-backport-modules-hardy-generic and now I also have led_class as a module but it didn't work | 14:14 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : thanks for the suggestion | 14:14 |
| asac | ubuntudemon: if you still have issues, submit the full /var/log/syslog after reproducing the connect failure as a bug against network manager | 14:15 |
| asac | and point me to the bug | 14:15 |
| ubuntudemon | asac here's the bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/220640 | 14:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | 14:15 |
| asac | but most likely iwlXXXX driver is still to unmature for LEAP, which is afaict a really thing anyway | 14:15 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : I have never been able to connect to my university network using network manager and I don't know how to enter the same settings | 14:16 |
| asac | ok. then its not a network-manager related issue. | 14:17 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : indeed. I have been using wpasupplicant since edgy with ipw3945 | 14:17 |
| asac | sorry ... misread that. usually you can get drivers to work manually as manual configuration can deal with crappy drivers, while network-manager cannot | 14:17 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : I don't understand why they didn't think of a solution to be able to still use ipw3945 | 14:18 |
| ubuntudemon | (my university network settings are also a bit strange) | 14:18 |
| asac | ubuntudemon: for ipw3945 you need the regulatory daemon running as well | 14:19 |
| asac | do you have that? | 14:19 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : I'm running the livecd and I'm unable to modprobe ipw3945 (FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found) | 14:19 |
| asac | ok | 14:19 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : is there anything else I can do to provide more useful information ? Is there any way to use ipw3945 with hardy's kernel ? | 14:21 |
| asac | ubuntudemon: most likely not on the live cd | 14:22 |
| asac | unfortunate that noone raised this earlier in development cycle | 14:23 |
| ubuntudemon | asac yeah really unfortunate. | 14:26 |
| asac | i have no access to LEAP network. otherwise i would have probably noticed. afaik LEAP is somewhat crappy and outdated. | 14:28 |
| asac | (not saying that it can be ignored) | 14:28 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : I'm also gettign some help in #ubuntu-kernel | 14:29 |
| ubuntudemon | asac : my university's network settings are crappy IMHO | 14:30 |
| asac | ok hope that -kernel can figure something. only thing you could try IMO is to upgrade to latest wpasupplicant (0.6.x) ... maybe that behaves better | 14:32 |
| calc | iirc LEAP was a workaround for WEP being crap | 14:35 |
| calc | both of which are not nearly as good as WPA/WPA2 | 14:35 |
| darius_ | I was wondering why LEAP wasn't working ... thought it was just me :) | 14:51 |
| ubuntudemon | darius_ so you have the same problem ? Do you have the same network settings as I do ? You should come to #ubuntu-kernel | 15:29 |
| ubuntudemon | If there is nothing else I can try I'm going home and I'll try any new suggestions tomorrow. Thanks everybody for your help. | 16:07 |
| ubuntudemon | Bye all! | 16:07 |
| Kirrus | hello, can someone take a look at bug #110387.. its got a patch, but has missed the final freeze deadline, as I didn't pick it up quickly enough (sorry!) .. I think its a candidate for SRU, but I'm not sure of the process the patch needs to go through *before* the release... | 16:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110387 in insight "Insight was accidentally built wrong" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110387 | 16:16 |
| crimsun | at this point, we may as well treat it as part of the SRU process | 16:17 |
| Kirrus | is there a quick way to tell if a package is in universe or main? | 16:17 |
| Kirrus | I'll get started on an SRU.. | 16:17 |
| crimsun | Kirrus: sure, via the Launchpad +source page, or apt-cache showsrc, or rmadison -uubuntu | 16:19 |
| crimsun | oh, do you mean "binary package"? | 16:19 |
| crimsun | if so, you do have to jump through some hoops | 16:20 |
| Kirrus | well, I know that the package name is "insight" so I guess I can find it from the lp page.. unless.. guess... | 16:20 |
| Kirrus | !info insight | 16:20 |
| ubotu | insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 1649 kB, installed size 4884 kB | 16:20 |
| crimsun | there. | 16:20 |
| Kirrus | universe.. cool that works :) | 16:21 |
| crimsun | should be same for hardy, but you can check | 16:21 |
| Kirrus | thanks crimsun | 16:21 |
| crimsun | !info insight hardy | 16:21 |
| ubotu | insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-7 (hardy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 5000 kB | 16:21 |
| crimsun | Kirrus: ultimately it's where the source package is, however, which is why I mentioned those options above | 16:21 |
| Kirrus | I'll remember them.. thanks :) | 16:22 |
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| bdmurray | greg-g: morningish | 16:31 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: It seems like bug 219081 should just be an easy config change, do you know what that would be? | 16:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219081 in linux "no 5.1 sound on sound blaster live" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219081 | 16:37 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: needs more info, namely, which app(s)? | 16:43 |
| greg-g | bdmurray: late night, so yeah, morning :) | 16:43 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: a quick test point would be `aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' | 16:44 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: I have the same hardware and problem so I'll give that a try | 16:44 |
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| bdmurray | crimsun: only the KDE_startup.wave came out of all 4 speakers | 16:47 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: "all 4"? I thought you wanted 6... | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: I actually have 4.1 but the "rear" 2 get no sound | 16:49 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: so only the front speakers? | 16:49 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: right sound from front only with startup.wav but front and rear with KDE-startup.wav | 16:50 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' unmute ; amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' 88% | 16:51 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: then that behaviour is intentional for startup.wav. | 16:51 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: Unable to find simple control 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo',0 | 16:56 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: I'm using his amixer output | 16:56 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: I'd need your amixer output to see your controls | 16:56 |
| bdmurray | crimsun: http://pastebin.com/f4115ff4c | 17:01 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: amixer -c0 set 'Wave Center' 80%; amixer -c0 set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' unmute | 17:05 |
| afflux | morning | 17:06 |
| afflux | ideas on bug 220645? | 17:07 |
| crimsun | ... | 17:09 |
| crimsun | and there's the culprit: sysv-rc 2.86.ds1-54 | 17:09 |
| crimsun | (from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13825801/Dependencies.txt) | 17:09 |
| crimsun | now, why is that person running sysv-rc from Debian? | 17:10 |
| afflux | that is indeed a good question | 17:10 |
| crimsun | note that our simplistic solutions of simply requiring sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2) fails horribly | 17:11 |
| crimsun | solution* | 17:11 |
| crimsun | Debian does not carry Scott's multiuser change | 17:11 |
| afflux | crimsun: probably because of the last (now commented) line in sources.list: # deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib | 17:11 |
| crimsun | perhaps this can be enforced in upgrade-manager? | 17:11 |
| afflux | not sure how that should be handled. should I just answer with "you're using unsupported debian packages, closing"? | 17:12 |
| crimsun | e.g., we need sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2), sysv-rc (<< 2.86.ds1-15) | 17:12 |
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| jarlath | I have a bug report with the status New. I now have all the log files needed and steps to repeat etc. But the only other statuses I can see applicable to my triaging are Incomplete, Invalid or confirmed. Should I choose confirmed or is there a way to set it as Triaged? | 18:06 |
| bdmurray | jarlath: Triaged is available to ubuntu-bugcontrol members only | 18:07 |
| jarlath | Ah, okay. So will I leave it as new? | 18:08 |
| james_w | jarlath: is it anything that we could confirm, or is it specific hardware or anything? | 18:08 |
| bddebian | Boo | 18:08 |
| jarlath | james_w: yes, it's hardware specific. | 18:09 |
| james_w | hi bddebian | 18:09 |
| jarlath | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/219556 | 18:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219556 in linux "Speakers do not mute on headphones (Fujitsu-Siemens ESPRIMO M9400)" [Undecided,New] | 18:09 |
| bddebian | Hello james_w | 18:09 |
| james_w | jarlath: ah, you're triaging it, I thought you reported it. | 18:11 |
| jarlath | james_w: Oh, yes. I should have made that clearer :) | 18:11 |
| crimsun | jarlath: set it to Needs Info, and add me as a subscriber. I'll triage it further this afternoon. | 18:16 |
| crimsun | err, I guess Incomplete instead of Needs Info. | 18:17 |
| jarlath | crimsun: Okay, will do. I'll keep an eye to see what kind of info is missing. Thanks for your help. | 18:18 |
| crimsun | basically he needs a new stanza for his model; there's nothing in alc262_presets[] to handle his config. | 18:18 |
| jarlath | Okay. That sounds promising! | 18:19 |
| afflux | crimsun: what should I do with the update-rc.d bug (sysv-rc from debian)? ie. what status, package etc. | 18:43 |
| bdmurray | afflux: I'd think update-manager, confirmed, low based off what I read of the scrollback | 18:50 |
| afflux | bdmurray: okay thanks | 18:51 |
| bdmurray | I gathered this is something update-manager might be smarter about | 18:51 |
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| bdmurray | mvo: somebody had sysv-rc(?) from debian installed and performed a release upgrade | 18:53 |
| mvo | hm, right | 18:53 |
| mvo | suprisingly little failures :P | 18:53 |
| * mvo just looked at the bugreport | 18:54 | |
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